Did Texans Give You Playoff Hopes? Nico Harrison Out Of Dallas

Did Texans Give You Playoff Hopes? Nico Harrison Out Of Dallas

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Ten oh one in h Town. Good morning, and welcome
to a Tuesday edition of The Matt Thomas Show with
Ross Sports. Every with the week off, I'll be hanging
out with you for a couple of hours. It's me
and Jonathan just chilling, relaxing, enjoying life. Enjoying life. That's right.
And then Cole Thompson is going to come in and interrupt
our life between noon and two. Looking forward to him

(00:29):
hanging out with us for a couple of hours, and
we will have got feelings coming up at eleven thirty today,
we'll believe it or not. Today at one fifty, I
think I'm gonna go with the Veterans Day theme on this.
I don't know, I've not created the questions just yet,
but that is the goal on that. Rarely Jonathan is
I try to teach you a few things about this business.
I think I've done a pretty decent job of the

(00:51):
whys and whise dots. There you go. So you when
you do a Houston sports show, you're supposed to lead
off with Houston sports things. Well, let's be brutally honest.
We are a day removed from the Texans game, So
that's not the top hot topic of conversation. The Rockets
did not play last night. There have been no big
moves on the astros front at at the general manager's

(01:14):
meetings that was separate from the winter meetings. Okay, so
sometimes you got to go big picture, and I want
to tell y'all, what is going on in Dallas right
now as we speak is pretty incredible. Oh, I just
saw this this morning. Yeah, if you have not heard,
and it came down about a half an hour ago

(01:35):
that the Dallas Mavericks are going to fire their general manager,
Nico Harrison. It is the worst kept secret in sports
that he is absolutely one of the most hated, despise
people that you could find anywhere in the Dallas fourth
metropolitan area. He probably has more discussed on him than

(01:57):
even Jerry Jones at eighty plus years old, running the
else Cowboys into what will be for the nineteenth consecutive
mediocre season for them. Well, Jarry Jones to his fans,
I mean, he does don't have nobody. So for those
of you who don't know the situation, and look, we're
not the greatest NBA city and we certainly are in
a great NBA City. When it comes to other teams

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not named the Houston Rockets, Nico Harrison was the one
that the general manager of the Mavericks that traded Luka
Doncic for Max Christie and Anthony Davis and some draft
picks and whatnot. And Max Christie has been a nice
NBA player, but the main go to star of this
was obviously on the Mavericks side, Luka Doncic A. You know,

(02:42):
you hate to use the term generational, but he's a
generational player. Well, a perennial All Star, perennial All First
NBA team, a team that you build around, a player
that should say. And then on the other side of things,
you have Anthony Davis coming from the Lakers to the
Dallas Mavericks. Anthony Davis is in a very pomplished NBA
basketball player. He just has one major issue and it's

(03:04):
been his issue really since he first left Kentucky of
those years ago. You just can't stay healthy. And he's
played only a handful of games since the trade deadline,
not the trading line, since the trade took place. He's
missed a bunch of games so far for the Mavericks
this season. He missed a bunch of games for the
Mavericks last season after the trade. In fact, the Rockets
played the Mavericks the very first game that Anthony Davis

(03:25):
wore a Dallas Maverick uniform, and he was great for
the first half until you got hurt. So you don't
trade a franchise player unless you're getting the most incredible,
massive haulback. You're not trading a franchise SQ player unless
he's in the following the nervous contract and he basically

(03:47):
tells the whole wide world I'm not resigning here. Those
were scenarios that were not in play. Luka Doncic was
going to sign a Supermax deal with the Dallas Mavericks
and was going to be a Dallas Maverick for my
I guess is the majority of his NBA career, if
not his entire NBA career. So we've talked about this
for many months. We have discussed this America has the

(04:11):
Dallas Mavericks have received more negative attention in this last
six months and they could have ever had their previous
I think their franchise was made. It was created in
nineteen eighty, so the previous forty five years they had
bought more negativity. So finally the sellout streak ended in Dallas.
The fire Nico chants were happening all last season. The

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Mavericks are off to allows the start this season, and
then last night happened. Patrick Dumont is the owner of
the Mavericks. It used to be Mark Cuban, but Mark
Cuban sold the majority stake of it. As a matter
of fact, Mark Cuban has no interaction in all of
the Dallas Mavericks have been just being a very public fan.

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So Patrick Dumont goes to the game last night, and
from what I'm guessing, he's he hasn't been going to
a lot of games, probably for the right reason, because
even though Nico Harrison made the deal, Nico Harrison has
to go to his owner, Patrick Dumont and say, hey,

(05:16):
here's the trade. I need you to sign off on this.
So clearly Patrick Dumont knew that what was going down.
He had to have given the aok to make this happen. Okay,
So Patrick Dumont, the owner of the Mavericks, is not
void of blame during this whole situation. So apparently there

(05:37):
was this kid and he's eighteen years old. So he's
not like a twelve year old, thirteen year old, he's
eighteen years old. He's a freshman SMU that apparently not
too long ago, and I can't remember that. I don't
know what exact data is. This basically gave a middle
finger to Patrick Dumont when he saw him on the
floor at a recent game. Really, the dad of this

(05:58):
kid that goes to SMU said, hey, next time you
see Patrick Dumont, you need to walk up to him
and apologize. This is this is like, this is almost
like a This is almost like a dizzy movie, right.
I mean, the plot is pretty good. So what does
Dumont do. He tells the kid the young adult whatever

(06:19):
you want to describe man, to sit next to him
for a while at the game last night. Okay, so
we did you know what? The kid was wearing? A
Luca Lakers jersey. Ah. So apparently the kid spoke to
members of the media in Dallas after last night's agin

(06:43):
They put the bucks by the way, and the kid
said that Dumont told him one he felt bad for
the Luca trade. Two, it wasn't in the best interest
of the franchise. Three he made a mistake. And he's
trying to rectify it in four, wants to win back
the fan base. The owner's telling the kid this. The

(07:03):
owner's telling the kid this, Okay Wow. Thus, at about
nine point thirty this morning, or traveled around the NBA
streets that Nico Harrison was going to be meeting at
ten o'clock where he was going to be relieved of
his duties as a general manager. Now the question is,
is Nico Harrison the fall guy or did Nico Harrison

(07:23):
come to the general the owner of the team, Patrick Dumont,
and give him this lucas out of shape. He doesn't care.
He just wants to play, He wants to eat, he
wants to drink beer. He doesn't care about the good
the fortune of the franchise. We need to get rid
of him before we really start to spend mega money
on him, because sometime, you know, when you hire a

(07:44):
general manager, you trust that person because he's intimately involved
in what the organization and what the league is doing.
If you're an owner of an NBA team, yeah you
got a pretty you should have a pretty good vibe
of what your team is all about and what's going
on in the NBA world. But you hire a general
manager to I mean, she's like an own of a restaurant.
Owner of a restaurant should know what's going on. But

(08:05):
the general manager is intimately involved in the day to
day operation of the cooks, the white staff, the pricing,
the alcohol, the sales, the ordering. I mean, so you
have to have a lieutenant behind you. And it'll be
curious if they the Mavericks have a press conference today
as to whether or not Patrick Dumont, the owner of

(08:27):
the team, will address such a thing. So maybe he
got incredibly bad advice from his general manager. But the
fallout is incredible. And the reason why I brought this
up to open up the show today was a because
there's not a lot of the Houston stuff going on,
but b it probably gives you a rare example of

(08:49):
how fans can get someone fired. I don't. I mean,
I can't remember maybe a handful of times in my
life that I've covered or talked about a team, at
least from a Houston perspective, that got someone fired. Now

(09:11):
I'll give you the one that comes to mind to
me was, what was it two thousand and four? And
I may be off by year, and if I am,
I apologize. Jimmy Williams was the manager of the Houston Astros,
and Jimmy Williams, who's no longer with us, was a cranky,

(09:33):
mean spirited sob. And hope he's resting peacefully as we speak,
but he was a difficult person to try to embrace.
And I remember at the All Star Game, and again,
if I'm missing any of these details, we're talking about
twenty plus years ago, So I apologize. I'm not giving
you everything exactly to the tea, but I remember at

(09:57):
the All Star Game, Jimmy Williams, I believe, was a
position coach on the All Star team and he got
booed at at the time. What was minute made Parker?
I think it was comment it made, And I remember
Drake McLain, I think letting him go shortly after that
and hiring Phil Garner and the Asterers were able to
go on to the playoffs and eventually go to the
World Series in two thousand and five. So it does happen. Coaches,

(10:23):
general managers can lose their job if public reaction is
so terrible. But it doesn't happen a lot. It sort
of happened here in Houston with the Jack Easterby. Bit
y'all hated Jack Easterby. We hated Jack Easterby. Jack Easterby
was a fraud and the problem was that Cow never

(10:47):
figured it out. It took Hannah to figure it out.
So God bless Hannah for figuring it out. She knew
the organization had a terrible reputation with a jerk for
a head coach and a jerk for a whatever the
hell he was, the vice president of football Operations and

(11:08):
then giving Bill O'Brien the GM tag. I mean, just
one stupid move after the other. So sometimes fan reaction
can't get things done, and sometimes shouldn't get things done
because sometimes you guys are too quick to get people
fired and traded away. Sometimes you got it, just got
to be patient. But in this particular case, you couldn't

(11:32):
go to Dallas, Nico Harrison couldn't go to a bar
or a restaurant or a game and not have to
hear about fire Nico chants. They made special seats for
him at American Airlines Center so he could walk away
and go to a private tunnel, just so he would
have no interaction with the fans when they were screaming

(11:54):
fire and Nico that's how crazy it got. But now
apparently it's all over. So again, I don't usually lead
the radio show off with Dallas bit because you know,
Houston greater than in Dallas and just about everything as
we all know. But it is amazing to me that

(12:15):
it took an eighteen year old who dropped the middle
finger on the owner of the Dallas Mavericks. The dad
tells him to go apologize for his behavior. He winds
up seating courtside wanting a Lucra Laker jersey. And he
was the fatal company of Nico Harrison's curR as a
general manager of the Dallas Mavericks. It's a pretty incredible story,

(12:40):
don't you think, Gang, If you'd like to discuss, if
you think you had something to do with a coach
being fired for the right reason. Maybe you were the
anti Jackie sh to be croud out there. Maybe you
were the one that were screaming you sucked to Bill O'Brien.
He told you you sucked too. Maybe you hadn't something

(13:01):
to do with it. Seven one three two one two
five seven ninety seven one three two one two five
seven nine zero with you today until two o'clock This afternoon,
We've got gut fillings at eleven thirty. Cole Thompson is
gonna drop by and hang out with us noon until two.
We got to believe it or not. Today at one fifty,
we want you guys involved. So, just as a sports observer,

(13:23):
not a fan of the Mavericks, not a fan of
any Dallas team, isn't this an interesting story to y'all?
And that's what we do in sports radio. We're at
least supposed to bring interesting things to you. And I
think we have ten fourteen on Sports Talk seven ninety
seven one three two one two five seven.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Ninety It was in my mind.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Ten twenty on Sports Talk seven ninety it is the
Matt Thomas Shold Ross Ross is off today. I'm still
trying to get over this cold. Wow way, If anybody
has any anecdotal things to help me out, I would
appreciate it. I get a cold about two times a year,
and unfortunately it's during the NBA season, the worst time
for me. How does somebody go from like seventy five

(14:08):
degrees to forty and every time I go to this
massive temperature change, I wound up getting a terrible cold
out of it. Now I guess I could take some
more like immune deficiency or not. I'm not immune deficient,
but I just like I need a moon an immune booster, right.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Do you know those emergency pecks you put in your
water emergency really so yeah, it's like helps you with
your vitamins and your immune system. You use it taste
badters all right, if you don't. If you put a
good amount of it, it tasts They have different flavors. But
it's kind of like a medicine. I'll take let me
tell you. As long as it tastes like yalka seltzer, I'm.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Okay with it.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
And all you need is one bottle of it and
one like take one like if you're say you're traveling,
you just you know, take that six and ounce water. Uh,
you should look it up. It's really actually really good
to help your Okay good.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Because I'm looking for a little immune boost because I,
like I said, every you know when we bounce, we
bounced north, like you know, like I'm thinking about In
the last three weeks, I've gone Toronto, Boston, Houston, Atlanta, Birmingham, Houston, Uh,
San Antonio, Memphis, Milwaukee. Here. I mean, I'm you know

(15:15):
that's just the trials and tribulations of doing an NBA season.
I'm okay with that, but and most time it's fine,
but just it's just when this temperature change kicks into play,
when you're bouncing forty degrees in each direction, that's when
it really just kind of screws with me. So I'll
take any advice you guys may have, all right, Uh
seven one three two one two five seven ninety if
you want to chime in seven one three two one

(15:36):
two five Sevenini, let me ask you this because I
brought up, uh the nick not the nick is heera,
the uh, the situation where the Texans before with Jackie Easterby,
about how public opinion really shaped how the Texans had
to make a change, and uh Ryan uh forts in

(15:59):
on two whatever good friend of the show says. Don't
you think Click with the Strokes kind of falls in
that category? Hmm? I'm curious, did y'all want James Click fired? Now?
I don't want to recreate a revisit history and give

(16:21):
out some inaccuracies. I would have to say in the
James Click administration that US fans wanted him to be
perhaps more aggressive. But I don't think you spent a
lot of time calling our show during that time, going
this guy is completely inept. Now, clearly Jim Crane and

(16:46):
James Click did not see the eye to eye on things.
It's very rare that the team wins a World championship
and the general manager gets a one year extension after that,
and James Click's like, no, I need something a little more,
with a little more juice to it. But I'm trying
to think, to me, it's more of the easter b

(17:07):
PR disaster, the Bill O'Brien coach and general manager disaster
that people around the league and US fans. I mean,
the easiest thing you did to help push that along
Texans fans is you didn't show up. You weren't going
to games, you weren't bags on your head, you were

(17:28):
embarrassed and granted, the team was also not very good
and all the while, by the way, at the same time,
you had the starting of the Deshaun Watson issues, which
certainly lasted a couple of seasons. But have we ever again,
I use Jimmy Williams an example, being booed at the
All Star Game. I don't know if James Click was

(17:52):
publicly told to go away. I don't know if that's
the case, but you know, like I said, if I
went back and listening to old air checks the show,
i'd be different. But the reality is this. It can happen,
but it's not. It would be like I mean, look,
you gotta realize, Luka Doncic was the most valuable player

(18:13):
on the Dallas Maverick franchise for the longest time. Luka
Doncic was a guy that was going to be a
franchise that you were going to. Basically, he was the
segue between the great days of Dirt Novitzky and the
future of the Dallas Mavericks. And yeah, was he doe? Yes?
Was he in pristine shape? No? But he woke up

(18:34):
scoring twenty five points a game, dishing out eleven assists,
rebounding eight times, and taking over games when he wanted to.
You took the good of the bad and this guy
Dumont who owns the Mavericks, as I said before, had
to sign off on it. Does Dumont when he has
a press conference today or tomorrow, whatever that may be, say,

(18:57):
you know what, I hired a bad guy. I got
some bad advice. Ryan on seven ninety and ten twenty five, Ryan,
Good morning, Barnie.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
I was listening on the iHeartRadio app and then called
on missed the part. I didn't know you were going
to talk about. Click.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
My bad.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
I was going to help you out with the cold
thing though.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Go ahead there, Yeah, okay, so you.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
Need one emergency.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
Jonathan's right, you need to chug that stuff.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
But the reason people start getting sick this time of
the year is because they finally turn on their heater
after so long and you're burning up dust in all
this crab. Oh, that's going to make you sick. Great,
you need to What you do is fire up your
heater before it gets cold, leave all the windows open.

Speaker 7 (19:38):
And clean it out.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
Light all that stuff up so it'll it'll clear out
that way when it gets cold and you turn on
your heater or you're not just breathing and all this
dust and crab. Also change your air filters.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Wow, look at this sage advice I'm getting from you today.
I was on expecting that from you. We have to.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
I was telling Jonathan I used to build homes and
that we would tell people that all the time. If
you forget your builders and you I don't turn on
your heater. It's that nasty burn snow when you first
turn it on, and yeah, all that is is just
burning all that crap and that'll get you real sick.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
But see the problem was I was in I was
in Memphis and felt fine. I was in San Antonio
and got okay. And as soon as I got up
to Milwaukee, where it was like thirty five degrees cooler,
that's when I started to get the sniffles. And that's
why I got the full fledged cold. So thank you
Ryan for the good advice there. All right, Yeah, I

(20:30):
think I want to do I think I want to
call baseball games because that weather, generally speaking, is the
same for six months now. Maybe a little chili at
like March, but you give me April to September outdoors
ballparks and then dome stadiums, like I'm always like, I'm
already looking forward to, Like my trip next week is
to Cleveland, like forty two degrees. There can't have that.

(20:54):
I think the Rocket Shod only play teams in warm
weather cities. I'm just convinced of that should be an
eight Jonathan eighty game schedule of nothing but playing San
Antonio Phoenix and the Lakers over and over again. You
won't go. You got you do, like Pheenix, I like
Phoenix a lot. That's right, that's right, you know. And
they don't have grass there. I mean they have grass
that you can smoke, and they don't have grass you
can actually walk on. I mean not that I'm endorsing

(21:19):
that or telling you not to do it, Okay, okay,
just saying it's out there. Ten twenty seven of The
Matt Thomas Show Raw seven one three two one two
five seven ninety seven one three two one two five
seven nine zero. All right, So did we as Houstonians,
as Houston sports fans, have we helped get a guy

(21:40):
fired as much as the Mavericks have fans fired general
manager Nico Harrison. It's a decent question. We'll get to
more of that coming up. Plus our friends in Baton Rouge.
I think I need Gordy to come help me out
with this. Uh. It appears that mister Kelly, Brian Kelly
wants all of his money really and LSU's like, I

(22:04):
don't think we're gonna be able to give you all
your money. So it's a very very tumultuous situation. And
another thing. We got to talk about that horrendous football
game last night between Philadelphie and Green Bay. I mean,
let me tell you something, Rue Rube TV subscribers, you
consider yourself blessed that you wouldn't didn't have to watch
that last night. There was nothing on TV that I

(22:26):
cared about, so I'll put that on. I think I
lost five years of my life watching how boring Philadelphia
green Bay is told me he fell asleep home. Oh
my god, it was terrible, just terrible. It is a
Matt Thomas show with Ross. Ross's uh in California for
the week. Hope he's getting some nice down time. Jonathan

(22:47):
hanging out with me until noon. Jonathan and I will
be joined by our buddy Cole Thompson and he will
be on with us from twelve o'clock until two. Let
me tell you something, Jonathan, when you'd been doing this
radio show, we're gonna be approaching sixteen years in the
first of the year. Who your audience were like family? Now,
we don't always agree on everything, and we're sometimes going
to fight, but we still love each other at the

(23:08):
very end. And I know there's a sign of love
when I get numerous emails and Facebook messages and I
g d ms about the mcgrib coming back. So that's
the one thing I love that that was very wholesome. Actually,
it made me feel warm and cuddling inside. Because again,
my partner, as you know, Ross, despises the mcgribs and

(23:29):
he's he's just an American. But that's one issue. Do
you know what I have an also getting? And I
put this on Twitter yesterday these Bob Barker AI generated videos.
Have you seen him? Okay? How do I put this politely?
They're crude. I can see where this is going. Their stereotypical,

(23:59):
their foul mouthed. Yeah, I can't take my ass off
of them. That's brain whatt Matt? You guys not with
what the AI videos man you got. But people are
sending me endless amounts of Bob Barker AI videos. So
what do I do? I send them to other people
and are like, this is so wrong. So what I'm

(24:23):
gonna do to you for you, Jonathan today is I'm
going to send you three to four of them today
and you're gonna say, Matt, these are insensitive. I can't
handle this, this is wrong, and please stop sending me
or you'll be sending You'll be sending me another message saying, Matt,
these are wrong, these are insensitive. Send me some more.

(24:44):
There are probably twenty of them out there, at least.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
I don't think I'm gonna ask this of you more, though,
I will just say if you are uh, you.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Know, I guess I got said to my mom. Actually,
if they're I know how here's the question i'd asked,
how sensitive is your mother towards Okay, here's the thing.
If you're white, black, hispanic, fat, in shape from another country,
everybody gets insulted.

Speaker 8 (25:11):
No literally, she's dark. She got she so she will
be like, son, what did you send this from? This
is so rude because he met him, so like she's
gonna love it. Okay, So I'm going to send you
some and then we come back.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I want you to watch them during the next break,
and I want you to tell me how you feel,
because again, if it's too much for you, I will
once I will pre apologize to you, and I will
not send you anymore. But if you like them, I'll
just forward you. What is it getting sent to me?

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Now?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
I'm curious and you should be curious. Richard in Linke
City at ten thirty six on The Matt Thomas Show
at Ross Richard. Good morning, Good.

Speaker 9 (25:46):
Morning, Matt. So first off, a little cold advice. I
used to get sick every winter when the heaters would
come on, until a friend explained to me that when
the dry when the heaters go on, the sinuses dry
out and they get cracked and then it's easy for
the germs to get in there. So what I what
we what I started doing was just drink you know

(26:07):
that air like a saline solution, has no medicine in it.
You just you're just pumping like kind of a salt
water thing into your sinuses to keep them hydrated. And
that ever since I started doing that, I've no longer
gotten any kind of sinus infection, any kind of cold
in the winter time. So there's the there's my piece
of help.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Thank you for that. And I'm always looking for good
advice on that, Thank you very much.

Speaker 9 (26:33):
And the uh because we need you at the top
of your game. And what I what I saw the
other night that I haven't heard anyone really talking about,
and I was wondering if you saw it, is during
the Milwaukee game in the second half, there was a
moment when the ball I think it hit sound uh
KD and and and uh i'll Bee was calling for

(26:55):
it but like there was no movement, but read move
to the spot like there was movement, and Red was
trying to move, but Alpi was kind of in the
spot Red had moved to. And I saw Red like
effectively telling Alpi yet you need to move, like you
need to move, And I was just really encouraged to

(27:17):
see Reid. I wouldn't say it was yelling at Albi,
but to see him asserting himself into the play to
kind of open Alp up to what needed to happen.
And I think it led to a point. Have you
seen that. Have you seen Reid begin to assert himself
more vocally on the court.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I don't know this vocally because here's the thing, I'm
not at close to the court with these games, sadly,
so I can't tell you what exactly is being said.
I'm just looking at him having more confidence. I'm looking
at him going, you know what, I've got to embrace
this opportunity to be this backup guard that I need
to be. I need to be this instant offense guy.
I need to take some more shots I need to

(27:55):
take some more chances defensively with stealing the basketball because
the stee numbers are really starting to pick up here.
He's just progressing now. Again, it could be a small
stretch of games, it could be the opponent, or it
could be you know what, Sometimes kids just take a
while to get to get used to the NBA lifestyle.
And if Reed Shepherd can give me consistent work like
he's done in this three game roach that we just finished,

(28:17):
that's a really good sign for a Rocket, you know.
Having him and Ethan come off the bench on a
semin a regular basis is going to give this team
a lot of extra scoring.

Speaker 9 (28:26):
Well, I think that's what I'm most excited about. I mean,
I'm glad to see his threes going in. I'm glad
to see him playing with more confidence. But the thing
I really really am happy to see from him is
him in effect not playing kind of the little brother
at the kiddie table, but beginning. I want him to
own his part of the court as much as the

(28:48):
other guys. Because it feels like this team and Alfie's
really good at it. They communicate well, they call out
what they see, and they expect they make demands on
each other, and I think read that's a maturity thing.
And he's young. But the sooner he develop what's that,
the happier I'm going to be and I think the
better will be.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Well, the reality is this, if it doesn't happen this year,
for as good as his team's going to be, Richard,
they're gonna have to make a move. And I think
the Rockets would not would rather have a number three
pick be a role guy for this team and help
out as compared to going well, we lost a draft picks.
So it's good on him because he's going to be
given every opportunity to inherit those backup minutes and you know,

(29:24):
maybe even spots start on nights where you want to
move him into the two guard spots. So I hope
you and I are having this conversation is good stuff
and it only gets better because if he gives you
what the Rockets have gotten from him the last three games,
this is going to be a nice acquisition, a nice
role piece for this basketball team.

Speaker 9 (29:42):
Yeah, and I hope you feel better, sir.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Thank you. I don't feel terrible, and thank you for
the phone call. I just don't want to I don't
have to bounce back and forth with this all year long.
So Jonathan, I need to go on to Walgreens for
me a Balgreens and get me some of whatever you're
talking about.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
Yeah, and you definitely shoed to get him for the
pack like cause they come in a pretty like not
too expense and then coming a big pack with a
bunch of packets in him and just put it for
the house too, or like when you travel, putting in
those locases.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Okay, And if it works out this, I'll give you
all the credit in the world. And if it doesn't,
not just blame you. No, it's gonna help for sure.
By way, I'm going by to send you my first
All these videos, by the way, are on tiktoks. I'll
be sending you this TikTok in a minute here. Okay.
So what's your chillikin question today? Good morning, good morning?

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Can you hear me all right?

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yes, sir? Okay. What I wanted to.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Talk about was what why the Mavericks fans are so upset?
I think when you trade, like you said, you.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Use the term very lightly, but it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
He Luca is the generational talent when you trade someone
like that and you only talk to one team, and
one team that was the Los Angeles Lakers, and you
couldn't have farmed the entire league if you wanted to
to have someone come back.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I mean, if you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Trade Luca, fine, But the return that they got was
so crazy easy, bad that the only thing I can
ever think about is if I try to think something locally,
it'd be like, I don't know, the Texans trading a.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Position player for a washed up running back, Well, how
about this, I got one for you. It was as
bad as when Bill O'Brien traded DeAndre Hopkins for what's
his face? It was John Johnson. Yeah, David Johnson, remember
that in a swap.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
If I could there, if the Texans traded a position
a great positional player in his prime for someone who
is clearly past his prime. But we as much as
we love DeAndre Hopkins, he was not a Luca Don.
Luca Don all over the world. And the fact that
you talk to one person, one person only, it being

(31:50):
Rob Polinka, which everyone thought that the Lakers are about
to coast into to irre irrelevancy, and they just handed
them Luca Don That is what drove not only a
non Mavericks fan crazy, but just the entire sports world
into a frenzy. It was an absolute asinine take. They

(32:11):
shouldn't have done it, and to have this much backlash,
and I feel like they're surprised by the backlash. They's
so tone death that it's crazy to me that I
am so glad that we have Stone and we have
email running our front office and we can never touch
anything that bad. Compared to what Mavericks did to their

(32:33):
fans and to the NBA in general, it is just crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Well, here's the thing case. So you could probably if
you are so upset at the fact that Luca did
not condition himself properly, in your word, about spending all
this money for a guy who may be becoming injury
prone because of his fact that he didn't keep his
body in shape, you could go get a massive haul
for him. You could find a team that said, let's

(32:57):
do it. But for them to have this secret conversation
with of all teams, the first or second most recognizable
team in the association that already has the second greatest
player in the history of the NBA on its team,
with all the championships. That was that was malpractice to
the umpteenth level. And that's where I think it really

(33:20):
got people. Not only did you trade them, but you
trade them the Lakers and you didn't get anything close
to market value in return.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
It was nowhere near return. And for it to be
to be okayed by the owner, it just shows you
that it just comes from the top. And it was
just one of the worst trades in sports history for
the magnitude of it was. And like I said, we
dealt with that something like that with de Hop and

(33:51):
like I said, it's nowhere near the star power of
the Luka Doncices, But damn does that suck. And you know,
it was kind of good. You know, we're rock Its fan,
so it's good to watch the trash burn right the highway.
Oh for sure, it was just bad. It is just
bad for the NBA. And I'm still upset about it.
So good to hear from me, my friend. You know what,

(34:12):
I'll tell you what the DeAndre deal that shocked us.
We were blown away by it. We pulled the audio
of a thousand times. Now Ross isn't here to tell
you where it is, but.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
We I mean we were we were literally on the
air when it went down. I don't even know where
it is. I mean, I wonder if it's in the
personal audio rosses somewhere. I'll see if I can find it,
because Jhonathan, I know, have you heard our reaction when
day when the Texans got David Johnson for DeAndre Hopkins. No,

(34:46):
I think I was in Kentucky. I wasn't. Oh my god,
it was terrible. I'm gonna try to find it. I'm
gonna try to go into his personal library. I feel
like I'm like, I'm going into his private collection here
of audio. You know what, there's probably some things in
here that he that he makes fun of me if
I can get rid of.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Yeah, you look at like Matt or like, like, where's
all that audio me making fun of Matt or dumb things?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Matt says, there's some search in here. Seven one three
two one two five seven ninety seven one three two
one two five seven nine zero. It's the Matt Thomas
Show with Ross. We got gut Feelings coming up at
eleven thirty today. We have you to join us right
now at seven one three two one two five seven
ninety five. All right, Jonathan, I just sent you the

(35:35):
Bob Barker AI video the one of many that are
out there. Now, go ahead and give me your thoughts, guys, as.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
Matt tells, he tells he's gonna send you a clip.
Just just embrace it, just be ready for it.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
And again something personal. It's pretty funny.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
It does attack everybody humanly possible. And I'm glad that
this AI. Like the dialogue, le's're pretty clean, like you
would think.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
It's it's it's funny yet troubling at the same time.
Does that make sense to you? Let's get scary out here.
It is now. I will say this. There is there
is one AI video of me out there, and I
cannot tell you what it is because I want to
protect those that are innocent to this. But I have
been recorded once on AI and it sounded like me,

(36:19):
like it's kind of like today I have a little
bit of a cold. Yeah. But they, the people that
did the AI audio of me, send it to me,
and I'm like, Okay, I could see why you think
it's me. I could see why you think it's me
on a cold, but it was definitely not me. So
I was impressed, astonished, and disturbed at the same time.

(36:44):
Because you know what you know. It's funny because people
do have you know, people can have voices in the
way they speak that are easy to uh to, you know,
to impersonate. I don't think I've got a particularly easy voice.
I mean, like I'm just regular. I don't have I
don't know, it's twaying. I don't have any sort of
dialect or staccato or anything, you know, pattern right, like

(37:07):
you know, kid check so ABCIX, you know, like you know,
but that to hear yourself on AI. But yeah, the
Bob Barker AI videos, I would say I'm troubled, but
that would be a lie.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
It feels like he'd be like an adult sim with
something this that's fretful. I'm not gonnas that I got
me to leve couple times.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
It was. It's it's pretty incredible, all right. Seven one three,
two one two five seven honeties. So, Jonathan, you found
the audio. This is back, this is Ross and I
and I want to give you. It was in March
of twenty twenty, so we're going back five plus years
for our reaction to literally this is a little long,

(37:45):
but again, if you're an og to the show, you've
heard this a few times. But if you're new to
the show, first of all, welcome be Where the hell
have you been? And see we don't want you to
ever go away. Here's Ross and I hearing about DeAndre
Hopkins going to the Arizona Cardinals. And this to the
line of of why DeAndre hopkins name has been brought
up in trade conversations. They need draft picks badly. Oh oh,

(38:07):
oh no, what do we got now? What? What? What? What?

Speaker 10 (38:14):
What?

Speaker 3 (38:15):
What?

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Hit the bridge? The news center?

Speaker 11 (38:17):
What this can't be true, Adam Schefter?

Speaker 12 (38:23):
What?

Speaker 2 (38:24):
No, no, no.

Speaker 11 (38:26):
The Texans are trading DeAndre Hopkins to the Arizona Cardinals.
What okay, it'll be a lot of draft capital. Holy smokes,
it's gotta be a lot of draft capital.

Speaker 13 (38:42):
Oh what what?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
What? Why? There we go again? We better hear. We're
gonna hear.

Speaker 11 (38:58):
Larry Tunzel and Deshaun Watson locked up turn pretty quickly.
Here DeAndre Hopkins is an Arizona Cardinal.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
What Lee, I wanted to swear. Here's so bad, I said, smokes,
I want to say something else. I don't even know
what to say.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Folks, we have microphones where there is very bad in
our business.

Speaker 11 (39:32):
I'm stunned. I'm stunned, I'm shocked, bamboozled. You better begin
the entire draft class. I mean, I'm telling you, it's
gotta be a lot. It wasn't what DeAndre Hopkins and
a fourth round pick go to the cards for David
Johnson and a second round pick.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
No, no, this is U John McLain.

Speaker 11 (39:52):
DeAndre Hopkins in a fourth round pick go to the
cards for David Johnson and a second round pick this
year and a fourth round pick.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 12 (40:02):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
That's it. Listen to me. We lose it, Jonathan, we
lose it.

Speaker 11 (40:12):
To the cards for David Johnson and a second round
pick this year and a fourth round pick next.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
That's It's it, that's it. That's it. Listen to me.
Continue to be supporters of the Texas.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
What the hell is that you just gave away the
best receiver in football for for a broken down running
back and a second round pick.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Line people, listen to me.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
If you are something the Texan on Twitter, or you
are a Texan fan for life, or you're anything with
the word Texan in your avatar, what the hell? Okay,
I'm gonna read this again. Make sure I'm not missing
something on this. DeAndre Hopkins in a fourth round pick
go to the Cardinals for David Johnson in the second

(41:02):
round pick this year in a fourth round picnic?

Speaker 2 (41:05):
What all right? You get the gist of it.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
I didn't realize how little that trade good talk got back?
Oh wow, like nothing.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Wow. I'm still pissed off about it. That's why I
was ever. That's why I know if it was ever
a chance of me being a Texan fan, that was
the day. That was the fait of complete that the
irresponsible Texans organization, led by Jack Easterby and led by
Bill O'Brien and led by Cal Frankly allowed that to happen. Thankfully,

(41:42):
mistakes were made and things were rectified. And that's what
Dallas is going through right now. Second hour The Matt
Thomas Show starts at a matter of moments with Ross,
who's not here. It's still the Matt Thomas Show, Ross
even when he's not here. Seven on three, two two
five seven Ony Vincent Midtown. We'll start with you. Luka.
Doncic is a laker. We've talked to about that for many,
many months. The general manager of the Mavericks, Nico Williams

(42:04):
is Nico Harrison. Excuse me, Nicol Harrison is out. He
has been fired, and he was about an hour ago.
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mac Thomas Show with Ross all Right, I got a problem.
I just sent Jonathan another TikTok video. Bob Barker. He
he had a contestant on wearing a Dallas Cowboy jersey.

(43:09):
He says, look what you've won. They pull up to
open the curtain. Up. It's another first round playoff loss. God,
I'm so immature. I'm serious. You might be a manchil
like Cole. I'm serious. I mean, God, old Mandy. I mean,
I'm obsessed with these Bob Barker AI's. And now I

(43:30):
get everybody sending me AI videos of Fred Rodgers, mister
Rogers neighborhood. I don't know, this is this is? Is
this a good thing or a bad thing America? And
we're taking our heroes of yesteryear? May they all rest
in peace, and we are creating AI videos to make
people look bad.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
Well, to be fair, Bob Barker wasn't the he doesn't
have a good track record. Well, he he had some issues.
I mean, he slept with some of his beauties. I
think one of them at least I am Arkins back
in the day, Oh lordy. And then he basically said
he fat shamed the rest of him and they all
sued him over the years. So yeah, far from perfect.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
But he's pretty rage I feel like it works. Yeah,
all right, so there you go. But yeah, I'm getting
I'm getting video sent to me. I thought that was funny,
the Dallas Cowboy. I gotta send it some coworkers now,
because I'll get some Dallas Cowboy We have too many
Dallas Cowboy fans in our office and too many LSU
fans in our office. Yeah, well I know, yeah. I

(44:34):
mean their offense is prolific, but they can't stop a
nosebleed defensively, can they?

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Not?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Just saying? All right? Eleven o five on Sports Talk seven,
and we have got feelings coming up at bottom of
the hour, So Jonathan, you're not going to have to
take a more active role because Ross is not here. Now,
did you do you write down? Do we have evidence
of what happened last week? I got feelings. There's no
chance we're gonna mind. I mind though? Do you remember
remember your I don't remember anything. I don't remember what

(44:58):
I had for lunch yesterday, much less telling you my
gut feelings worse, sick, even sick. That's right, all right?
Seven one three two one two five seven nine. He's
seven one three two one two five seven nine is zero.
It is a Mott Thomas show with Ross, and let's
talk to Vincent Midtown's and patiently waiting at eleven oh five, Vince,
good morning to you, Hey.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Good morning guys. Hey, I have some good advice they
gave you on the on newsing the saline for your nose,
and also the heater thing, like kicking that heater on
before it.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Actually gets cold. Nice.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
But hey, I want on Luca on Luca. So I mean,
I understand the fans being upset about them not getting
much in return because Harrison only, you know, talk to
one team. But man Luca gets traded and all of
a sudden he decides he wants to get in shape.
You know, I mean, what kind of what kind of
crap is that? I mean, he was with Dallas for

(45:48):
how many years and he came in Dewey all the time,
played the whole season. Dewey was always getting injured because
of that. So I'd say good riddance to the guy.
But that brings me to another point. I was hoping
that maybe at some point in time you could pull
Tim Gooon over one day and tell him, don't be
another Luca with the throwing up the hands every time

(46:11):
he thinks he gets fouled and not getting back on defense.
That guy's got so much talent, but he's a resource
to that.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Crap, and it's got to stop.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
You's got to figure that out and I'm sure he's
betting talked to by the coach, but it's just like,
maybe you can talk to him.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, let's see how this goes. Hey, Vince, Hey, this
is your radio announcer, Matt. I've never played in the NBA.
I've never played high end basketball in my life. I
was I was a manager when I was in the
junior high I was a mascot in high school. Could
you do me a huge favor and not throw your
hands up in discuss every time a foul is not
called or you get hit across the face, because it

(46:50):
would be better for the Rockets, Thank you and goodbye.
He would squash me like a grape. You understand these things, right,
I understand that, but it's just for us. We were
at a restaurant. You're ready for this. We were at
a restaurant at a night and he was at the
same place I was, and he was shaming me for
eating a dessert. He says, you can't be eating that.
I said, what are you talking about? I'm trying to
get fatter, and he goes, Okay, that's fine, you can

(47:10):
have it. Then. So he's he's always he's got a
design on looking out for me, So I want to
make sure look that. Frankly, Vince to me and I
don't mean to stereotype, but we do stereotype on this show.
A lot of European players are going to do that.
A lot of European players are going to throw their
hands up, and you'd like for him not to do
it as much because sometimes it does take the focus
off of what he's supposed to do defensively, but it

(47:32):
is also human nature. There are a lot of there
are more NBA players that will raise their hands and
discuss and say, oh well, oh jolly gollig, shucks, somebody
hit me across the face. Let's just play keep playing basketball.
So he's not the only one that does.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
That, by the way, right, And then I realized that,
and that's how the all comes from that soccer.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Soccer it does, yeah, and that's why soccer sucks because
they like to flail and call penalties that may may
not have been there. So but to your earlier point, though, Vince,
and I want to I want to discuss this with you. Uh,
yeah he was dope, and yeah he was seen eating
cheeseburgers and drinking beers after championship games and whatnot. I
think the Mavericks just give up too early. I think

(48:14):
you have to if you have a player that has
so much talent that he has fince, you have to
keep working on him to find somebody or something that
he can relate to. Because frankly, when he went to
Los Angeles and he started working with Lebron in this offseason,
he did lose some weight, he did look more toned.

(48:35):
So it was certainly within his DNA for him to
do that. It just wasn't happening in Dallas. And I
don't think he was because he was lazy. I just
think that maybe it was the message wasn't good or
he didn't have somebody to lead as an example. And
even though you'd say, well wait a minute, you're an
NBA player, you're making all this money. The least you
can do is stay in shape. It's these yer said
than done. Some guys still need an extra motivation. So
whatever he got in Los Angeles is something he did

(48:58):
not get in Dallas. And that doesn't make it right.
But the reality is, if you have a player that
is a five y five guy that can do amazing
things and shoot and rebound and assist in block shots
and handle point. You have to do everything humanly possible
to keep him on your team because he is a
guy that you can build a franchise around. You cannot

(49:20):
build a franchise around on Anthony Davis, who is north
of thirty and can never stay healthy. All right, I
guess that.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Well, hey man, we'll get well. It got to keep
that golden voice, though.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
I'm trying. Thank you very much, appreciate events. It's why
I need to get rossback off vacation. That's why Cole's
coming in and hang out with me for a couple
hours to that. I appreciate that. I mean, you know,
I'm sure Jonathan right, I mean, look at clearly looks different.
I don't think he's zero body fat in Los Angeles.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
But I think he made a very good point saying
that he there probably wasn't that type of leadership or
someone to push him or and I think it's he
didn't know. I think it was a humbling moment for
Luca as well, until you got traded and realize what
other people thought of him.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
You had all this praise thing does.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
That's exactly right, And I feel like that's he just
has my set switch, like, no, I'm not like that.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, it's like you're the chosen one all throughout your
life as a as a junior high player and as
a high school player in college. Yeah, he's been doing
this for so long that he finally somebody kind of
put him in his place. And I don't think you
do it with the trade.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Well.

Speaker 5 (50:20):
I think it showed the world when they gave him
that memorial, when they came when he came back when
he's a Laker, and he started crying and bawling on
the sidelines, like everybody realized, like wow, like he meant
he loved Dallas the same way Dallas loved Luca.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Absolutely, they loved him there. And I honestly, I don't
think the Dallas Mavericks franchise will ever recover from this
as good as Cooper Flag I think could be.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
Hey, Luca, he's not Dirk, Dirk and Dors look at that.
That was Dirk's guy, like he played it was everybody's guy. Yeah, yeah,
he was everybody's guy. And again their mistake. First of all,
help the Lakers stay relevant, which is not fun for
us Rocket fans. But if you have Dallas hate in

(51:07):
your heart.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
And many of you do. You aren't cry. You aren't
crying over this, except for today that the Dallas Mavericks
ownership group said, you know what, we finally it must
admit our mistake. And the question is going to be
when they hold a press conference when they do win,
how much responsibility will the ownership take for allowing Nikole
Harrison to make that deal. Eleven twelve of The Matt

(51:30):
Thomas Show with Ross. We want you to be a
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very happy Veterans Day to all of you that have

(52:15):
served families as well. Thank you for doing what you're
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Thank you to all of you have served, including members
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(52:38):
on Sports Talk seven ninety speaking of peace, do we
need peace between Rube TV and Disney? Now I don't
have and I'll just say YouTube. I don't have YouTube TV.
The main reason why is because it doesn't carry Spacity
Home Network, which is the network that I watched to
watch the Astros games. Now I'm in all the Rockets games,
so I don't really watch that, but I do watch

(53:01):
the Astros and is. And I also I don't use
web based stuff at my house. I mean the Amazon,
the Peacock and the Amazon all that you have to
But for my main television viewing, I do have direct TV,
which is the satellite dish. This thing is getting nastier
and nastier. So apparently last night on the Manning Cast,

(53:24):
which is on ESPN two, which is the same version
of the Philadelphia Green Bay game. But you know the
Mannings hosted show that Bob Igeron, who's a chairman of Disney.
I didn't see it because I've only watched one Manning
cast before, maybe two in my entire life. That's like, well, yeah,

(53:45):
because part of the problem is they're never in the
same room with each other, so they're always having a disconnect.
Oh you mean like the zoom is stuff. Yeah, the
zoom just doesn't you know, it doesn't do anything here.
So let me ask you this. You have Bob Igern
on the ESPN Manning Cast, and you don't ask about

(54:09):
the YouTube TV dispute. Now, I don't know how many
of you. First of all, the Philadelphia Green Bay game
last night was terrible. Ten to seven of them was
a final score. Now, my guess is, unless you had
a fantasy impact in the game, or you had a

(54:30):
bet with a friend of yours, or you were happy
to be in a betting state where you could put
the game money on the game, I'm going to assume
that ninety five percent of audience did not watch one
eye out of the game. It wasn't a musty game,
it didn't involve a direct competitor of the Texans in
their playoff chase. Like I watched a little bit of
the Chargers game against Pittsburgh because those are two AFC teams,

(54:53):
and how that game ended would have a somewhat an
indirect result of where the Texans would be on the
playoff seating. Filed off ee Green Bay did nothing for me.
My fantasy team was kicking ass by thirty five points
as it was. I Dallas got it the tight end
for the Eagles going. So that's the only reason why
I even gave it one out of a look. I

(55:13):
did not go to Manning cast, and I did not
after reading the stories about what was discussed. Why would
he do that? Why would he go on that Manning
cast and not bring up the dispute between himself, his
network that he owns, and YouTube. I mean, so explain.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
Exactly what's going on with YouTube and Disney. So it's
like they YouTube stopped getting the Disney channel, the Disney stop.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
No, there's it's a carriage issue. It's it's it's about
who's paying for what. And I don't know the details
of it, but it comes down to fees and whatnot,
and there's an argument about it. Apparently Bob Iger was
at the game, is what I found when I'm looking
at here. Yeah, they discussed with Ahead of Disney about
Igris Packers fan hood. They broke down the play by

(56:09):
play strategy for each team and joked about Eli Manning's
success against Iigers Panthers. Meanwhile, you have ten million subscribers
to YouTube TV and you don't bring it up one time.
And what makes matters worse is that apparently YouTube TV

(56:33):
is offering you a twenty dollars credit for the service disruption.
I don't know how much YouTube TV cost around that,
like seventeen hollaway. Well, probably either it is or it isn't.
I mean, I want to make sure we know I
can get it on. But apparently you've got to go
through this long platform of a rebate process. As someone

(56:56):
pointed out on Twitter, YouTube TV has zero problem.

Speaker 5 (57:01):
What the standard cost for YouTube TV is eighty two
yeah dollars a month?

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Yeah, eighty two dollars a month, and you're giving a
twenty dollars rebate. Shut your ball mass up sometimes getting
a ten dollars monthly discount for sometimes what Now YouTube
TV does have the NFL RED zone, the DirecTV, the
red zone, it's the Sunday ticket. So if you have
if you want a Sunday ticket because you'll say you're
a fan of the Steelers or the Browns or the

(57:30):
Bengals and you want to watch all the games. I
get that. So that's that's that's well and good. But
YouTube TV has zero problem charging your credit card on
a monthly basis. If they really wanted to offer you
a twenty dour rebate, they should have just gone to
them and said, we instead of charging you eighty five
dollars a month, we're gonna charge you sixty five dollars

(57:51):
next month to make you go through, climb through a
bunch of hurdles and jump over them just to get
twenty dours off. I'd be paying eighty five dollars for
YouTube TV. That's absurd. Well, but the problem is, I
mean my direct TV bills. I'm noxious, But yeah, I guess, yeah,
I mean I probably spend three hundred dollars a month

(58:12):
in television between my uh now my kids have the subscriptions,
which I'm paying for becus I'm just a lush between
Hulu and Peacock and Amazon and Netflix and Direct TV
that I pay for because I have like four different
units and whatnot. I mean, it's probably Gino Worth's waste

(58:35):
of my money, but those are other things that are
wasted my money in my house besides that. But you
have Bob igerund this the CEO, and the most pressing
thing you're you're talking about is his fantom of the
Green Bay Packers. I look, my family loves the Mannings.

(58:56):
My my middle son is named Peyton for Peyton Manning.
I can't imagine Peyton Manning. I mean, hey, obviously had
to have said so for getting Bob Igaron. Huh, can
you give us an update on the YouTube situation? For
not to even be discussed, that's tragic. Get someone from
like the higher up tell the not I had to

(59:17):
have done something like that, had to have. So if
I'm Peyton and I'm freaking Peyton Manning, pro football Hall
of Fame, huge commercial endorser, a huge guy that carries
tremendous cachet even outside the football business. I go to
my people at ESPN and say, man, I love y'all,

(59:38):
thank you for allowing me and Eli to do this
Manning cast and make a botload of money. But I
can't put Bob Iger on. And if I'm gonna put
Bob Iger on, I'm gonna ask him about why ten
million subscribers can't get his channels. I'll be brutally honest
with you. There have been that. Probably it doesn't happen

(01:00:01):
a lot in my life, but I can probably tell
you there have been four or five times in my
broadcast career or I have been offered a guest that
was timely that would have been interesting to you for
as an audience, that they said, hey, you can discuss this, this, this, this,

(01:00:22):
and this, but you got to stay away from this
and this and this. Now I'm not I don't want
to bring up old bad memories of things things in
the past, and there is a fine line you can
definitely draw with that. But if I was offered Bob Iger,
the CEO of Disney, on this radio show, I would
be honored to talk to him. I mean, he's one

(01:00:44):
of the all time television grandiose executives. He he runs
this multi billion dollar operation known as a Disney Corporation.
It's a can't misinterview. But if they came to me
and said you can't ask about YouTube TV, be doing
myself and you. The audience's a massive disservice. So what

(01:01:06):
are they hiding? So it's an ugly stalemate right now.
You got people pissed off. Just say we're trying, but
for them not even to bring it up. I th man,
that's hmmm. Now again there's a difference. Let's say I
had an athlete on and this athlete was talking about

(01:01:27):
watching a particular game, and this athlete all of a
sudden said, in nineteen you know, maybe in nineteen eighty five,
this guy got caught with possession of marijuana. I was drinking.
You don't have to go back to saying, hey, let's
go back to when you were a twenty four year
old athlete and you got caught with a DUI nineteen
eighty five. You don't have to do that. I understand,
there's a there's a there. Not every interview is created

(01:01:49):
equal because that that bringing up that old part of
that person's life is not tangent to what you're trying
to get across today. You'd be like having Vernon Maxwell
my show and talking about how he punched the guy
in Portland all those years ago. I mean that was
thirty plus years ago. I mean that time has healed
wounds on that. But if I got Bob Iger coming

(01:02:11):
on my show, and one of the main things in
the eletotronic media industry is that one of these huge,
huge television partners can't get on because they're in a
pissing match with ESPN and Disney, that's a story you
have to kind of discuss. So I don't know how
Peyton and Eli would handle such a thing if they

(01:02:33):
were told not to. Maybe pon Eli said, yeah, I
don't think we're gonna bring it up. But do you
think anybody that was watching that Manning cast last night,
they found out that Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney,
was going to be on that show, they would give
two craps about his fan for being a Green Bay
Packer fan. I want, you know, want to find a
chance Bob Iyger, I'd say, Bob, why are you charging
people one hundred and fifty dollars to get it into Disney.

(01:02:55):
Let me tell you something about Disney. I've not been
to Disney. I went to DISNEYLANMB. My kids were I
think Payton, My three kids were probably junior high and younger.
You gotta take you gotta take out a mortgage. You
gottaet a second mortgage in your home to pay for
a Disney trip. Let me take you some You're gonna
have kids some day, Jonathan, you gonna be like, Man,

(01:03:16):
I remember Matt telling me this. It is completely none
affordable to go. You have to legitimately create a nest
egg to take your kids and go suit to do
a Disney trip because the price of getting in is expensive,
the food, the drink is obnoxious. If you want to
stay anywhere close to the property, it's gonna cost you

(01:03:37):
several thousand dollars. And if you're not staying in a
property and you're staying in a hotel around the area,
they're gonna charge you because the closer you are to
the park, the more it's gonna cost you. And then
you gotta pay the insane parking fees. I mean, I'm
off for profit, trust me on these things. But that's
what I'd be like, man, mam, can you cut us
some slack? Can you offer like a Monday after two

(01:03:57):
o'clock for like fifty bucks that people get into reasonable
lot of money? And by the way, what's going on
with YouTube TV? But apparently he was more about him
being a fan of the Green Bay Packers. That was
the main conversation piece Ron having the chairman of in
the CEO of Disney on a Manning cast last night.

(01:04:18):
I mean, come on, and I guess you know, you know,
you know, to be fair, Peyton and Eli could have said, hey,
we want to have him to talk about this, and
they're like, no, that's not gonna happen. I don't do
the interview. No, it's we're paying you ten million dollars
a year, you're going.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
To do this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Yeah, I could be like that could be like that lit.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Up wasn't Tommy, You're they got a good dealer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
This is their gut feeling on the Matt Thomas Show.
All Right, I got a problem now. I'm I've sent
Jonathan five TikTok Bob Barker's the personal so far as
the funniest. I need help. I just sent you another
really politically incorrect one. I mean, oh my gosh, so bad.

(01:05:13):
All right, gut feelings something now, Jonathan? Did we did
Brad apologize to me? You strong enough for him to
be alloted back on the show. You you accepted his apologies.
I did accept the apology, and he said he was good.
So I mean, that's up to you. So I did
this up. Now here's the thing. Brad is on the
line right now, and you know the rules. Anybody that
calls seven one three two one two five seven Honti

(01:05:35):
with gut feelings gets on the air before Brad does.
If nobody calls, then Brad goes on the show. It's
just that simple. Seven one three two one two five
seven Annie seven one three two one two five seven
Honti with your gut feelings on sports, on life, make predictions,
and again, if you've gotten them right in the past,

(01:05:56):
call in and brag about them. Now, Ross did in
me what we did on the Texans game. Logan Cook
punts more with more yards. I had to look that up. Yeah,
I had the Texans winning twenty one to thirteen. Ross
had the Jaguars, Oh, the Texans winning thirteen to nine,

(01:06:21):
and Cam Little having the longest field goal. We got
to look at that stuff there, but I think we
clearly both missed on how close the game was, how
the score was going to be. Yeah, I can go
to the box score, go to the box score. We
went in a Logan Cook punts more with more yards,
Cam Little has the longest field goal. Texans win by eight.
I was good on that one, and Ross had the

(01:06:44):
Texans winning thirteen to nine. So right, Logan Cook was
right as well.

Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
Okay, so you know what that's why I way way
it was the longest feel guard like more yards longest
field goal, and so that Locan Cook was wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
We got Tommy Thompson got more long. Cook is a punter. Okay,
so I had more yards, yeah, Tommy, Hell, that's because
the team was so bad for the first three quarters.
I should have thought of that, all right. Seven one
three two one two five seven ninety seven one three
two one two five seven. I remember, you get in
now before Brad does, and if you don't, then you'll
get to hear the dulcin tones of Brad with his

(01:07:18):
weekly sports predictions. Seven one three two one two five
seven nine zero. All right, first and foremost the Rockets,
And I'm yes, I'm completely biased. It's part of my
charm here on the radio program. Rockets will win the
next three home games. They will beat the Washington Wizards,
they will beat the Portland Trailblazers, and they will beat

(01:07:39):
the Orlando Magic. Jonathan, I tell you right, now the
Rockets win the next three games all this week inside
Tote Center. Think about that. You know you write it down.
I'm writing it right now. You know I should write
them down to That's the least I can do. I'm
doing radio show here. So mt says, Rockets win all
three at home.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
Okay, you know I had just said that about Rockets
last time and we ended up chucking with the Spurs.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Was wasn't a choke. We were up fifty to thirty
nine and a half before the turners up one point
a half.

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
Yeah, but sorry that It was five minutes before the
second quarter ended. It was fifty thirty nine, and then
the man got like six turnovers. All right, Uh, you
got something you want me to go again? I'm loaded here.
I'm loaded just because of once you said yesterday. Bow
Knicks takes down Mahomes this week? Oh you got you

(01:08:36):
got Denver beating Kansas City.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
You know what it is?

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
You are so anti my Kansas City choice him to
tell the truth yesterday. I just think their time is up.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
They look like bow Nicks is not great, but the teams,
the defense is outstanding. The record, the record doesn't doesn't
lie you eight too just any that bad.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
But who's had a harder schedule? Denver, Kansas City, No doubt,
Kansas City has.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
For Colts Chargers, Cincinnati, Philadelphia Jets, Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Okay, let's go check out, let's go go Teas. Okay,
let's see, we'll see.

Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
I know they have charges to start Philadelphia, New York Giants,
and then they have to beat up Baltimore Ravens, beat
them up, Jacksonville lost to that, Oh, Lions Laiders, and
then the Commanders. Okay, so I'm kind of writing in Bill,
So yeah, I guess. Yeah, they had to do not much, not.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Much of a difference. All right, So you are gonna
just you're gonna make me feel bad, aren't you? When?
When Denver this, I know you are all right. Next job,
Texans beat the Titans by at least ten points. I'm
praying to do. They should by at least ten. I'm
writing that down. Okay, let's see here. Oh do we

(01:09:52):
want to talk about Texas Georgia? Mmm? I haven't thought
about them? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:09:59):
Oh m, I don't know man. That now I will say,
I think George is gonna win this by at least three.
But if my arts mating does pass this up. I
think he they Texas deserves to go into the playoffs regardless.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Well, I'll tell you what if they if I think
they get in, if they split between Georgia and A
and M, maybe I'm wrong, because that's gonna be a
super quality one of those two games is gonna be
a big time quality win for them. I enacted my
face idea on my ESPN app. I don't know why
I did that, but it's taken me forever to get
to it. Right, I got to it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Let's take a look at at the linem. What is
the line in this game? Let's take a look. It's
it's being good too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Oh, Georgia by six and a half. All right, how
about this? I will take Texas plus the six and
a half I think be a field goal game. So
I'll take Texas plus six and a half. Texas plus
six and a half. That's my good feels it come out? Okay,
I mean Texas is good. I mean they're not. They're
not spectacular. The defense is amazing, Yeah, the defenses and

(01:11:11):
look archers played better the last couple weeks when he
was not concussed. All right, so only I got you
for is Denver beating Kansas? And do you got anything else?
I think the Rockets drop a game. I think I
think they're gonna drop Orlando. But I say I think

(01:11:34):
they go too and one, two and one. Alright, Rocks
go too and one. I got one more for you.
The Astros will not get Dylan Cees. They are the
second betting favorites to get Dylan Cees over who or
under Who's sorry? You know what's a good question. Let
me see what the folks in Vegas say about this.
And again, it's not in Vegas. It's just like a
website that does it.

Speaker 14 (01:11:55):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Dylan Ceese's favorite team is the Atlanta Braves at two
to one. The Astros are three to one, the Nuts
for four to one, the Giants are six to one.
He's not going to the Braves, no way. I think
they can spend some money. I don't think Dylan seeses
an Astro. I hope I'm wrong, but it's a gut.

Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
Feeling that'll we give Burt lander Beck Oh JV's coming back,
like you can put it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
You can say that I'm not gonna put my name
on it, but I'll put it. I'll put as a
gut feeling. I think JV comes back because look, they
need a number four five starter. He likes it here
in Houston. Jim Crane likes to play golf with him.
Jim gran likes his white belt. I mean, it's all good.
It works out perfectly, all right, anything else with you
before I go the phones? Nothing good?

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
I like this.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Okay, So you got Denver beating Kansas City and the
Rockets go two and one in his homestand all right,
I see how you are seven one three two one
two five seven. Hounty Biscuit will be first, and then
anybody else can come in at seven one three two
one two five seven aunty, because after that it's Brad
who's on a he's on a probationary situation. He's back

(01:12:56):
a lot on the show. But if he takes underhanded
jabs people or dragged shots at me like he did
last week, he's back to being banned. Seven one three
two one two five seven ninety. All right, here we go.
Your gut feelings are now welcome at seven one three
two one two five seven ninety. Don't talk to me, know,

(01:13:21):
no trying to eat something, trying to eat something or
in the breaks. It's not good you have free rank
because Rosses in there taking advantage, trying to eat any
ross back, anybody back. That's why cols into the show
by himself from twelve to two something, talking as much
as he wants to seven one three, two, one two

(01:13:43):
five seven ninety biscuit at eleven forty eight, biscuit. What's
in your gut today?

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
Cougar mad? Cougar mad.

Speaker 10 (01:13:48):
First of all, Matt, I know you say, we don't
have to we make a good feeling and it don't
come through, we can let it go. But I got
hold up to my not thinking the Blue Jays is
gonna make.

Speaker 7 (01:13:59):
It the World Series. Kudos see those days, man.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
They almost got There was a game seven. It was
an amazing World Series, very highly rated. They did They
did themselves well and basically everybody outside of Los Angeles
rooted for them. I mean everybody.

Speaker 10 (01:14:15):
Yeah, it was entertaining, So you know, I hats off
to him. But my prediction, Matt, I was over there
on Color on Saturday, Oh oh, watching the game, watching
the Cougars man this number four, Matt. If we had
him last year, there's no doubt we would be champs
now this number four, man, this dude is I see

(01:14:39):
why Kevin's stamps is real high on him. And we
have way better shooters than we've had in the past. Mercy,
the number twenty four can shoot? Whose ag can shoot?
Even the big boy can shoot.

Speaker 7 (01:14:53):
We just got it.

Speaker 15 (01:14:54):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (01:14:54):
We're not as strong on the boards as we usually are,
but if you're making more shots, you don't have to be.
So I'm man, I'm telling you, I'm a first round
on me man in Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Oh, I told you I'm not going this time. I
can't do it, said you was.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
I lied, I can't do it. It hurt too much.
It hurt.

Speaker 9 (01:15:17):
Campush, It just hurt.

Speaker 14 (01:15:19):
It hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
I'm not over it, Matt.

Speaker 7 (01:15:22):
We're not gonna lose this time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Are you sure? You promise this is.

Speaker 10 (01:15:27):
The best team we've had. That Senson's hand, I'm telling you,
And they deep man, I'm like, man, Okay, Tugliners got
a little more offense too. Like I said, you got
sharp and man and Snac that's the one. Seenac is
the one that they got to get more involved and
more into the flow. He's hitting the board, so he's.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
He's grown ass man too. He's six eleven and two forty.
That's grown right there.

Speaker 10 (01:15:54):
Big boyd this big man, he ain't no swim guy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
You better enjoy him because he's a already projected to
be a lottery pick in the NBA draft coming up.

Speaker 12 (01:16:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:16:04):
Slimming though, man, I'm telling you, Flimming is the key man,
Matt Flimming, all right, this dude is this dude in Naptown, Matt,
i'm'll see, all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Right, I'll go. I'll go. You know, I will. You
know I'll be a fraud. I remember I told you
all I wasn't gonna compete in fantasy football anymore.

Speaker 14 (01:16:20):
And I did that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
And now I gotta go see my cougar's play for
the national championship. And by the way, Indianapol is a
good town, damn it. I gott all right, I'm a
book the ticket I used myles, Yeah, I just set
the points. Yeah, but it's gon't cost me a lot
of points. I mean, I can take my wife on
a trip to Florida on a beach community, or I
can go to Indianapolis for a couple of days. Just

(01:16:42):
don't tell her. Don't if you all know my wife,
don't tell her that I'm using the miles for the trip.
Just don't do that. Seven one three two one two
five seven ninety seven one three two one two five
seven ninety Scott river Oaks. So the Matt Thomas Show
with a row of Scott, what's in your gut this week?

Speaker 7 (01:17:00):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
Matt?

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
All Right?

Speaker 7 (01:17:01):
To be honest, when I copped in my car at
the very end of the last segment, so I wasn't
fully aware that we were doing gut feelings. However, I
can turn my thought into a gut feelings. I actually
do have a prediction on this. It's about the Mavericks
and Nico Harrison. I do think the Mavericks now are.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Going to gut their entire roster besides Cooper Flag and
try and tank for you know, because this is supposed
to be a very deep draft.

Speaker 7 (01:17:25):
So my gut feeling is that there's a very likely
likely chance that they end up trading Anthony Davis and
Kyrie Irving. That's my gut feeling. But what I really
originally wanted to call on this topic about is I
just it just blows my mind how sports teams work sometimes.
I mean, I guess I don't fully understand it, Like,
how did they come to the decision eight nine months

(01:17:47):
ago or whatever to let Nico Harrison trade Luka Doncis
if it wasn't something that they fully believed in, Like
I mean, Anthony Davis and I don't agree with that,
you should have traded Luca Donchets, but at least let
his plan try and work out. I know Kyrie's hurt
and ad is always hurt, but that was known beforehand.
So like, how do you even let him do it

(01:18:07):
if it's something you were going to pull the plug
on so quickly? I mean, And like I said, I
don't think it was a smart decision for them to
trade Luca Doc. It's just why did they let him
do it in the first place. I mean, I know
the owner of the Mavericks was new, and you know,
he doesn't really know what he's doing. And I've talked
to a source I have that kind of works in
the NBA a little bit, and he kind of said
that's what he said that you know, the guy was new,

(01:18:29):
he thinks he's an expert and didn't want to you know,
thought they knew what they were doing. But like even
Jim Crane, you know, he had we have general managers
in the place. He has outside consultants like Reggie Jackson
and Jeff Bagwell, not that that always works out.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
And oh, by the way, and Scott thinking about this
for a second, Oh, by the way, you can also
be wrong. You can also be I've hired Nico Harrison
and my general manager. He's got his boots on the ground,
he's he's running the basketball side of things. I trust him.
And when he tells me that Luca is not going
to be a guy that we can build around long
term because of his physical condition, you know, and if

(01:19:02):
he says that he got the best hole he possibly could,
which is a flat out lie. When you deal with
only one team, you can't get the best haul possible.
I mean, there were probably there was a lot of
missteps in this process, and I would think this Patrick Dumont,
who's the owner of the Mavericks now either is his
arrogance got in the way of this, or his nativity
or a combination of both. But he has ruined his franchise,

(01:19:25):
He has ruined a die hard fan base, and so
the least he can do is fire Nico Harrison and say,
you know what, I goofed up and we got to
start from scratch.

Speaker 7 (01:19:35):
No, that's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
And I saw that he said that he is owning
up to the fact that this is a sunk cost
and that this was a mistake. Essentially, it's not that
they're doing that that shocks me, it's that it even
happened in the first place.

Speaker 7 (01:19:48):
I just that's the part I.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Can't wrap my mind around, because I mean, it's one
thing if you did it, but if you didn't even
fully believe in it in the first place, to give
up this quickly and acknowledge that it was a mistake,
like I said, I mean, it's just God, there's people
just clicking buttons with billion dollar toys sometimes that don't
really fully understand what they're doing. But anyways, Yeah, look

(01:20:11):
for the Mavericks to trade Anthony Davis and Kyrie Irving
in tanks.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
And if Kyrie Irving is healthy, he's going to be
somebody will want him because he's when he's healthy, he's
a very good basketball play. He's still got a lot
left in the tank. And I know that aighty does two,
but ad just can't stay healthy for more than about
two or three games in a row. Thanks for the
phone call. Appreciated seven one three five seven ninety Brian,
What is in your gut? At eleven fifty four Brian,
good afternoon or good morning.

Speaker 16 (01:20:35):
Good afternoon, mt real quick.

Speaker 9 (01:20:39):
I got two baseball related one run.

Speaker 16 (01:20:41):
I think from in my gut, I think from Rivaldez
winds up with the Baltimore Orioles needs to make a
splash to save his job. They've got the money, they've
got a young team, and he would be the good,
you know, stabilizing member of that pitching staff. So well,
I think they've got money to burn, and I can

(01:21:03):
totally see him winding up for the Baltimore Orioles. There
less pressure than going to New York or LA or whatever,
where the spotlight will be magnified. And and they, like
I said, Michaeliath needs. He struggled the last couple of years,
so he needs to make a home run splash there
unless he's got familiarity with with Prommer and then I

(01:21:25):
think the Astros will somehow, whether it's a sign and
trade or whatever, to make room.

Speaker 10 (01:21:31):
Although he's a free agent.

Speaker 16 (01:21:33):
I think they do wind up with Dylan Cees. I
think they that's who they want and you know what
I'm want to out on the third limb. I think
Justin Berlander is back with the Astros this year. Whether
it should be or not, it's been a story, but
I think you will be. I think Jim wants them,
and Jim will do what it takes to get him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Yeah. I think basically, if Jim Crane wants a player,
i e. The Closer, Uh, he'll go get that player
and he and when he, when he, When guys get
on Jim Crane's radar, they eventually figure out a way
to make it down here. So yeah, good stuff, Brian.
Thank you for the phone call last, but certainly not least, Brad.
What's in your gut this morning?

Speaker 14 (01:22:14):
I think? And man, I don't want you to get it.
So I was trying to blame the money.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
People don't worry about you. That's fine, Thank you, move on,
move on to the this week.

Speaker 14 (01:22:29):
I think relating the money Davis Mills agent is gonna
breathe real nicely at the end of the year because
Davis Mills is gonna make a lot more money and
since he's on a one year contract, there's gonna be
some teams that are very interested and will give him
like the Jets, a chance to be their first string quarterback,

(01:22:52):
a chance if he beats out whatever competition he's got.
So I think he's gonna be elevated somehow, some way,
money and or playing status like starter. And then my
second one is Christian Walker is gone. He's the weak
apple on the infield. You can't keep all of them,

(01:23:16):
but I think you got to figure out a way.
He's the loose end that needs to go, because Paradis
will be the first baseman.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
By the way, hold on, hold on, hold on two things.
Number one, what is a weak apple as compared to
a strong apple? And number two, Davis Mills is under
contract for the twenty twenty six season.

Speaker 14 (01:23:34):
Two he is, It said a one year contract.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
I'm looking at spot track right now and it says
he's got on the books for six million dollars for
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 7 (01:23:45):
Well, then if it's.

Speaker 9 (01:23:46):
That's I just read it too.

Speaker 14 (01:23:48):
It said one year contract. Oh well, I mean if he's.

Speaker 10 (01:23:52):
Still here, he's that's good for the Texans.

Speaker 9 (01:23:57):
Oh well, so Christian Walker.

Speaker 14 (01:23:59):
And then you got to guy at your one of
your shows, and he's kind of a floater, but I
think he deserves a lot more than what he's got.
Cole Cole should be one of the starting people on
either the Morning show.

Speaker 9 (01:24:15):
Or he takes Ross's place on your.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Show's not you want to get Ross fired?

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
You are savage. You are savage. Brad Man, Oh my god, Ross,
Thank god he's not here.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
I never saw a caller in my entire life getting wanted.
People get fired and hired more than Brad does. He's
like our program director. He's trying to be everybody fired.
What what do you call? What kind of apple is
he saying? It was a week app? A week apple?
What exactly is a week apple?

Speaker 5 (01:24:48):
I'm guessing the ones that one like you take a
big vite of it, it's all mushy at the very
end and or like you know, cracks just like breaks.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
You ever had a week apple before? I don't think
I can't. I was this apple? The uh like the
crisp apples what they call those? The honey Chris, that's
a damn good apple right there, Granny Smith, No, it
is Ganny Smith, right, No, there's honey Chris two in
Graney Smith. But I hope honey Chris is like a
little bit sweeter one. That's the that's the Green Ones. Yeah, yeah, no, no,

(01:25:17):
No other radio show in the marketplace is going to
give you Apple talk like the Matt Thomas Show at
Ross does. Is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross twelve
oh six on Sports Talk seven on our buddy Kyle
Thompson is in what up? How are you? Sir? Thanks
for coming and hanging out with you a couple of hours.

Speaker 12 (01:25:37):
I mean, I gotta give you my full review of
the mccrib sandwich.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
That was fantastic. Yeah, you don't have to do it.
We already know it's America sandwich.

Speaker 12 (01:25:44):
A sandwich again. I'm very upset that they only bring
it back every once in a while. It needs to
be a full time deal.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
So my daughter is having her senior pictures done today.
Are you getting him? Mccrib and uh? Then they're going
to see a girl friend, one of her girlfriends playing
volleyball in state tournament's going on. And so it's me
and the boys tonight. And we said boys, so we're
gonna have a Thomas Family make rivet reunion. That's a
good you're a good fact. That's how father's bond with
their boys. You know, I agree.

Speaker 12 (01:26:08):
I appreciate the fact that your kids are also so
much into the bit that they realize that this is
not just a little thing that their dad likes. This
is an actual past time. It's your tradition. It's good
to create those tradition.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Because it's easy. It's easy to not like what your
dad likes. Oh, it's much much more cooler to oh,
my dad is the worm, like my daughter is anti
a lot of the things.

Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
That I like.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
See, I hate golf. I suck at golf.

Speaker 12 (01:26:29):
I've never been good. My dad is awesome at it. Yeah,
and he's been trying to get me into it for
thirty two years. I'm like, Nope, never gonna happen. I
had shoulder surgery about ten years ago and I gave
it up. And I don't miss it because I don't
I enjoyed the game of golf. I just I don't
have five hours to spare.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
See, that's not it for me.

Speaker 12 (01:26:44):
My big problem is why am I going to spend
eighty five dollars for something I suck at and I'm
not getting better at. And then I have to pay
for the twenty I have to pay the twenty five
bucks for the beer that I'm going to be drinking
out there, and I still have to sneak it onto
the course because I'm not paying the forty two dollars
for a drink that the golf car girl brings in.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
But you don't get to meet the golf cart girl though.

Speaker 12 (01:27:02):
I'm very contelling I'll go to these crappy golf courses anyways,
because I'm cheap. Like you think, I'm really meeting the tens,
I'm meeting the fours out there.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Well, you know, two fours to equal one to eight. No,
that is not even no.

Speaker 12 (01:27:20):
No, If you know proper mathemat two fours cancel each
other out, which means it's a zero.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Okay, I mean that's kind of maybe and a half.

Speaker 12 (01:27:30):
I said I'd go five and a half at best.
So that's if you've had a few already in your system.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
M you know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
No, No, you're no, you're a guest. All right, Let's
get I was going to ask if so you're telling
me if two fours said get over here right now, Cole,
you'd say no, no to zeros. So self respect for
my wife, that's what I'm talking about. That's why I
like you. Let's get to the news. At nowt at
twelve o eight. All Right, Nico Harrison has been fired

(01:28:00):
as a general manager of the Dallas Mavericks. We have
to thank Dallas Mavericks fan. We have to thank the
kid that flipped off the owner of the Dallas Mavericks
who got to sit with him yesterday at the game
and talk about why he's wearing a Luca Dantis jersey
at a Dallas Maverick game and he's wearing the Dunton
jersey wearing Laker gear.

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
So uh.

Speaker 12 (01:28:20):
I am still of the belief that new ownership is
trying everything possible to make this a major league situation
where they send the Mavericks out to Las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Are you the one that first thought of that. I
was one of the few. I was one of the
very first that brought it up with Clanton.

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
I remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
I'm going to tell you right now, my friend, that
is completely preposterous.

Speaker 12 (01:28:40):
So you don't think in any scenario that there is
a way for the Mavericks to move out of Dallas
just for like to say, two years, and then like
how they're talking about bringing the athletics back to Oakland
in some capacity or giving Oakland a new tea. You
don't think that they'd bring a team to Dallas just
two years later and then renamed the Mavericks like they
did with the Right, like they did with the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
The only way I could see that happening, Okay, And
you got to write this down because this is going
to be many years Okay. The only way I see
this happening is if because I believe the uh Patrick Dumont,
who is the owner of the Mavericks, right, they are
a huge casino family. They want to build massive casinos

(01:29:23):
next to the Mavericks, whether it's in downtown Dallas or
Dallas gets a new or they moved to Arlington to
build around. Yeah. The only way I could see what
you're saying is if casino gambling does not get ever
passed in Texas.

Speaker 12 (01:29:38):
So it did pass the last time it was up
for legislation, which was last year, right, which led to
the rumors that they made the move to get rid
of Luca to basically go full on major league like
Rachel did to sell the Cleveland Indians to Miami. This
is another step in the process. So one more time.
When is the next election up for this? I don't
know probably four years. So four years, attendance drops all

(01:29:59):
the way down to record lows. They don't win. Cooper
Flag eventually starts to show some promise. They ship him
on out for more mediocrity. Then we see the team.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Argument is flawed. The NBA will not allow that to happen.
The NBA will tell the Okay, the Mavericks will be
the DeMott family will be told you must sell the team.
We're not letting you move the Mavericks to Las Vegas. Now,
if you want to own a team in Las Vegas,
that's different.

Speaker 12 (01:30:29):
Well, eventually there's gonna be a team in Las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
The eventually is but that's we've been talking about that
for ten years.

Speaker 12 (01:30:33):
Now, I think, And again this is where my brain
goes immediately, you're right about the NBA not allowing Dallas
to be so mediocre that they can move to Las Vegas.
And the reason I believe that is because the collusion
that we saw with Luca going to Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Say get a star out there, and who gets the
number one overall? Pick yep.

Speaker 12 (01:30:53):
I'm sorry, Like, there's no way that you can convince
me that a major market like Dallas that has four
professional sports team that trade away its best asset, that
still has veterans like Clay Thompson, that still has guys
like Kyrie Earth, the.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Top ten media market. They're not leaving Dallas.

Speaker 12 (01:31:08):
But you're telling me that for one second, that they
didn't have any role. What the luck of the draw
said that Dallas gets Cooper Flag.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
Yes, the luck of the draw. No, there are too
there are too many. There are too many different stopping
points to say this is not rigg. Now, was there
a frozen envelope for Patrick Ewing? I believe there was, But.

Speaker 12 (01:31:30):
That was also nineteen about two thousand and four when
Lebron Jeans went back home to Cleveland. No, so you
think that that was just random chance that the kid
from Akron stays home.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Yeah, but he didn't say that forever he left. Yeah,
he left because he can leave. So if there was,
if there was a conspiracy against Cleveland keeping Lebron, they
would have figured out a way to make sure Lebron
never left the market. That's the difference.

Speaker 12 (01:31:50):
It's a solid market, it's a very prominent market, but
it's not the same level as Dallas. I think Dallas
got Cooper Flag versus get the number two picked with Santonio.

Speaker 5 (01:31:59):
I'm put my name on it. Dallas losing the Mavericks
period of the story. I don't think they will lose
the Mavericks.

Speaker 12 (01:32:04):
I think the Mavericks will eventually move to Las Vegas
with current ownership with Dumont, and they'll put a new
team in Dallas to rename them the Mavericks and some
other owner.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
You are way overthinking this. I'm notinking you are, miss overthinker.

Speaker 12 (01:32:18):
Dumont family is doing everything possible to make it clear
that right now they need gambling in Texas. If they
don't get gambling in Texas, they will, So you think
they'll sell and they'll get a team out last Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
Correct, Okay, that's I'm not even saying that's a possible likelihood.
I'm just saying that they're not. The Dumont family is
not scooping up what is currently the Dallas Mavericks led
by Cooper Flagg right for now to be a Las
Vegas Maverick, that's not well.

Speaker 12 (01:32:44):
I want to be the Las Vegas, the Las Vegas
Page or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
All right, Mondaynight football. Last night, Philadelphia beat the Green
Bay Packers ten to seven, Bob Iger was a guest
on the Manning Cast last night, and he is the
CEO of Disney and was not asked anything at all
about the current impasse between YouTube TV and Disney. They
got told that you can't ask the question correct And
I would think the Mannings would be like, man, do

(01:33:08):
you know who we are? They asked about his fandom
for being a green Bay Packer fan, shut up care well.

Speaker 12 (01:33:15):
For starters, Bob Iger, You're not from green Bay?

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Where does this?

Speaker 5 (01:33:19):
B s?

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
You can? That happens all the time. We got people
that are Steeler fans that have been to Pittsburgh for
in their life, so trust me.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
And on the what else are go going on? I mentioned,
uh that rockets off today Texas six and a half
point underdogs at Georgia yep, South Carolina three touchdown dog
at home to A and M.

Speaker 12 (01:33:40):
Speaking of which college football playoff selection show tonight at
six pm?

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
And will A and M go over Indiana?

Speaker 12 (01:33:48):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Will they are? Should they? And will they will? Actually?

Speaker 12 (01:33:52):
Because let me explain because eventually the College Football playf
Committee is going to look at the scenario of well,
Indiana and Texas, A and M both could lose it
in the conference championship.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
If the other team doesn't lose, they're moving up to
number two.

Speaker 12 (01:34:05):
So at some point we might as well just put
Texas A and M at number two, to where if
they went out, they've already got the spot. So I
think A and M tonight, after what they did dismantling
Missoo on the road three straight, I think that Texas
A and M comes in at number two. I think
Indiana goes to three. All right, you calling your shop

(01:34:26):
s gut feeling it. We'll see if you're right tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
All right. Twelve fifteen on Sports Talk seven ninety seven
one three two one two five seven ninety seven to
one three two one two five. I brought this up
in the ten o'clock I will see what Cole has
to say about this. Can you think of many times
in the world of sports that a fan base has
been so helpful in getting a front office guy fired.
We'll discuss that next twelve to fifteen Sports Talk seven

(01:34:50):
ninety Paul Thompson filling in for a Ross for them
between now and two o'clock, had been then producing the
A team for two o'clock until six Rockets back in action.
Tomorrow against the Washington Wizards. All right, so I brought

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up the show. We talked about Dallas Hope up the segment,
and I don't do that very often because again we're
a Houston show, but there's nothing really Houston related to it.

Speaker 12 (01:35:20):
Well, when you can go ahead and crap on Dallas
bringing up all the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
Time, yeah, it's easy. It's it's the lowest hanging for anyone.
They deserve it. They deserve it, deserve it right now.
The Rangers were a hot mess this past year. The
Cowboys will not make the playoffs for the mteen team
year in a row. I don't know if the Stars
are any good. It's fine, but SMU football is probably
the most thing blissful thing they've gotten right now in
the metroplex North.

Speaker 12 (01:35:41):
Texas, if you include dettonis part of that. Probably At
yet they're still on the hunt for their conference championship.
I went to the Mean Green for my freshman year
in high school college, so you are a Mean Green.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
I liked it. I enjoyed my time there. Great broadcasting
school it is. That was actually one of my runner
up schools before I went to right away the Voice
of Longhorns in our Texas guy. Okay, so the Mavericks
get rid of the general manager. The kid and if
you didn't see this, and you'll see the video or
the photo, is an eighteen year old freshman in SMU

(01:36:15):
and apparently at a previous game, I think, as i'murder
reading this correctly, he middle fingered the owner of the Mavericks.
It made it, really, I don't know if you if
you middle fingered him last night before the during the
game before and then brought him into the box afterwards, whatever,
But the dads of this eighteen year old SMU freshman said, hey,
go over there and apologize for a middle finger, because
the guy saw him. Dumont saw him do it to

(01:36:37):
Mott watched him. So what did Dumont do? He said,
come sit with me for a while. And Dumont was
talking to his kid for much of the game last night,
which and which the Mavericks led for about nine percent
of the game, but the Bucks came back and won it. Yeah,
and basically said, uh, we made a mistake. I'm embarrassed,
we shouldn't have done this, and we're gonna rightify this

(01:36:57):
because I get the fan base back. I mean, he
told all this stuff. So the kid went to the
media and said, yeah, I talked to him on and
it's what he said. And then nine thirty this morning,
the work got traveled out there that he was firing
a Nico Harrison at ten am in.

Speaker 12 (01:37:09):
The tweet, Like, how big of a slap in the
face is that to put the exact time that you
know you're gonna get fired.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
I'm curious if and this is the human side of everything.
I wonder if Nico Harrison is a good person that
just made a terrible, terrible mistake, or is he this
cocky know it all, I know more about my team
than you do, even though you're my star.

Speaker 12 (01:37:34):
So you're wondering if he is more Gary Kubiak or
Bill O'Brien. Because when Bill O'Brien got fired, I didn't
shed a tear.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Nobody did. And so the reality and when Bill O'Brien
eventually gets fired at Boston College, they're gonna win one
game this year, I will not shed a tear for
him because he's a jerk exactly. I mean, he just is.
And I don't mind when jerks get fired. Is Nico
There is videos out there. This is what I saw
yesterday Nico Harrison's at a restaurant and this guy walks

(01:38:03):
up to him and says, oh, you Unico Harrison, and
he goes yeah, and he goes if you. I mean,
just basically just announces how awful he is. Well, while
Nico's at a restaurant trying to have dinner or whatever
it was, just.

Speaker 12 (01:38:14):
Trying to enjoy his nine and people are openly looking
at him to find reasons to go ahead and call now.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
Because let's let's be let's let's dumb this down to
a human level here. Every one of us have made
terrible decisions about something in our life. I mean, I
can't imagine if I looked at my entire life that
every decision I ever made was the best one.

Speaker 12 (01:38:32):
I mean, I can look back to last week, I
made probably five.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
Or six bad desis okay. So, and you could have
people that you worked with that have been bad business managers,
bad leaders, maybe an accountant that took money out the
top and skim the books. You could had a person
and it's a general manager of a company that fired him,
or maybe your own of a restaurant. You fired your
top chef and you and you have to pay the
price for those mistakes. You made sure every nobody is

(01:38:57):
immune to making some sort of tactical air with their professions.
Did Nico do this or is Nico just a smug
I know better. Trust me, this will work out for
us because the fire and Nico stuff it never stopped.
It has not stopped since the moment that Luca was

(01:39:18):
traded from Dallas, and it got louder and louder, and
it got so loud and so abusive that Nico had
to create a special pathway from his scene at American
Airline Center. They constructed a special pathway so he could
go down to it back in the locker room area
without any public interaction. We will find him.

Speaker 12 (01:39:36):
Okay, Here's why either way, I don't feel bad, Okay,
for starters, He's getting paid a lot of money not
to work anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
It's only one of thirty jobs. You gotta be good
at your job.

Speaker 12 (01:39:46):
So but he's getting paid a lot of money to
be out of that one of thirty jobs. So he'll
make money to no longer be employed.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
Two.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
I don't entirely believe that this was all on Nico Harrison.
I don't.

Speaker 12 (01:39:59):
I am one of the proponents that believe that the
Dumont family made it clear because of the gambling rule
was not passed. Fine, let's go ahead and show the state,
and let's show the NBA we mean business about not contending.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
You really are too well.

Speaker 12 (01:40:16):
I am full I am full on ACOJ love for
this story. I fully believe that they are trying to
straight up major League.

Speaker 14 (01:40:24):
I do so.

Speaker 12 (01:40:25):
I believe that Dumont made it clear he was gonna
be gone now. Nico as the general manager, could do
one of two things. He could either a nix the
trade and realize I know that my job and my
integrity and my image will be forever tarnished if I
make this move. But at least I know that I'm
not the one making the move or my legacy is tarnished,

(01:40:47):
and they're paying me a crap ton of money to
make sure that I never work again, and I'm content
with it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
So I believe that.

Speaker 12 (01:40:52):
But the third thing is, Matt Thomas named me five
players that you would trade anything for. With Luka Doncic,
he's untouchable.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
You were never want to let me give you the
flawed philosophy without going to that. We're trying to major League.
The team here it is, he's due for a Supermax.
He We've asked him multiple times over multiple years to
get into better shape. There are a history of players

(01:41:27):
that don't keep themselves in pristine physical condition start to
break down. And I don't want to have to cut
a check to a player who I love, who can score,
who can rebound, who can block shots, who can ball
distribute as a point guard. I don't want to pay
a guy seventy five million dollars a year when he's
only playing for me fifty games a year because he
can't stay in shape. And I went to my boss,

(01:41:51):
this is Nico Harrison, to the owner of the team,
Patrick Dumont, and saying, I think I can spend that
money in getting three or four players who will stay
in shape, who will follow our rules, who will do it,
and we can go get a haul from another team
and we can still contend, and we can still have
some free age in flexibility, and we don't have to

(01:42:12):
worry about a guy who is going to consistently be
ten to fifteen pounds overweight, not keeping stuff in physical condition.
And the guys that are Dowie, it's not out of
the question. They can stay healthy but chances are when
you're Dowey, you're going to run into some injuries. And
that's why I think Dumont said, all right, go get

(01:42:32):
us the best deal. And I think Dumont did not
check with Harrison to say, have you crossed all the
t's and dotted all the eyes? Did you call as
many teams as possible? I don't think he did. I
think he fell in love with the name Anthony Davis.
I think he fell in love with draft picks. I
think he fell in love with the fact that Max
Christie was a young star that just needed a better

(01:42:54):
place to go. He didn't do his due diligence. Dumont
turned a blind eye to this and said, I general manager,
I trust there are numerous philosophical problems with what the
Dallas Mavericks did to do this, But I don't think
it has to do with I can't get a casino
I'm out. I think it was I don't want to
pay a guy seventy five million dollars a year and

(01:43:14):
he sit him be injury prone the last next five
or six years of his NBA career.

Speaker 12 (01:43:18):
So the reason I will push back is one major
thing you said, don't want to deal with the guy
who could be injury prone for the rest of his
career on a seventy five million dollars deal. Right, Yeah,
who is the name that was traded back in the
deal for Luka Doncic?

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
Because I think that.

Speaker 12 (01:43:36):
And you're telling me that the injuries that what we
have seen the second he touched down. He had one
great game, he had a game, half game, yeah, mid
what was it? Two minutes into the third quarter he
gets hurt yep, and then we're right back to square
one being a mediocre franchise.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
I mean, like, that's right, that's the good that's that's
a mistake took place. He was afraid that if rumors
got out the neat that Luca was being tree, that
it was going to create the firestorm, which it ultimately did.
Right did the second that it went live on Twitter.
It's what they should have done, is said, if we're
moving him, we're gonna get this deal. We can't refuse.
That was a deal they could have refused. Wel we'll

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get more on this come back twelve thirty on The
Matt Thomas Show withs Cole Thompson is filling in. We
got to get to some LSU talk because you are
big on the sec this situation involving Brian Kelly in
his contract situation. I don't think LSU's gonna win this.
I think they're gonna the wane up paying out. That's
my guess on that. We'll get to that. Plus something
I have not brought up on the show today. We'll
get to Cole's thoughts on did the Sunday Texans win

(01:44:37):
really get people juices flowing for this team? Maybe making
the playoffs after all. We'll discuss that too. Lot to
get to between now and two o'clock, believe it or not.
Today All things about Veterans Day seven one three, two
one two five, seven ninety one. All right, last point

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about the Mavericks again, I believe in some conspiracies. I'm
not conspiracy free. That one about them ditching a franchise
to because gambling is not a part of Texas yet
is You can't be the Dumont family and think you
could all of a sudden buy a franchise less than
five years ago and think you're going to turn around
a rule in the state of Texas it's been around

(01:45:22):
for decades. That's just ridiculous.

Speaker 12 (01:45:25):
So you don't think that because of how much, especially
the city of Dallas loves its sports teams, they cannot
find a way to change any bit of legislation to
eventually allow gambling legal in the state.

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
It's can eventually happen, but it won't be at the
sacrifice of the Dallas Mavericks.

Speaker 12 (01:45:40):
Can I implore you on the NBA, realizing that Lebron
James is going to be eventually out of stardom and
in retirement, they needed a new face out in Los
Angeles and the Nico Harrison and made the straight that way,
they were guaranteed the number one overall.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
Nope, you can't be bought into that. No, because what
I can do is I can say I'm about to
trade Aid one of the top three stars in this league.

Speaker 17 (01:46:03):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
I don't want the world to know this. Who who
do I trust? Who can I trust? In the NBA?
They can give me fair market value? All call my
buddy Rob Polinka, the general manager of the Lakers. He
was just going through it, buy out himself with ownership. No,
there's yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, there's too there's too
much on the line. There's too much on the line
to all of a sudden say that Adam Silver was

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intimately involved in this, and if he was intimately involved
with this, or any at the league level was, then
we can just shut the league down because we can,
because we're already going through issues with gambling and whatnot
and people throwing games. We might as well just because
it will just show you how incredibly corrupt everything is
and we should stop following. So I choose, and I'm
I'm not a blind to a lot of things. I'm

(01:46:45):
in blonded some things, but I'm not blind to this.
I can't imagine Adam Silver or anybody in the league
office saying, hey, you want to get rid of Luca Wisko,
put him somewhere that makes us happy. He does. He
wouldn't do us any good in Charlotte. He wouldn't do
us any good in Milwaukee. He wouldn't do us any
good in Orlando. Lakers makes a lot of sense. I
choose not to believe it.

Speaker 12 (01:47:05):
See to me, that's the only thing that is why
I believe it, because if he could have gone anywhere,
let's say Chicago, they want to finally get a big
time star first one since Deack Crows would have made
a lot of sense. They're not popular anymore. The Bulls
have fallen off the face here. If they're the third
most profitable team in the city Los Angeles, the Lakers
are the most profitable team still currently in Los Angeles

(01:47:26):
outside the Dodgers, and the Dodgers only finally got back
to this standpoint because they bought themselves back to back
World Series championships.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
So I see the point. I get it.

Speaker 12 (01:47:36):
I still personally believe that we are seeing major league
unfold out in American in airlines arena.

Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
I will die on that take. Okay, well good, because
I'm gonna chase you down for the many many years
after that.

Speaker 12 (01:47:47):
I say, when I'm on my deathbed, I will be
proven right and then I will beat you down the
seventh layer of.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
Health, all right, seventh one, three, two, five, seven, ninety.
It goes to a bigger question. Are we just full
of conspiracies? Now?

Speaker 7 (01:47:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Because look, we're being tested right now. Is a sports society.
We're being tested by some of the strange things that
have happened. We are being tested by the fact that
people are throwing games in variety of sports, college basketball,
pro baseball, pro basketball. So I could see the cynic

(01:48:21):
in people going You know, there's something. There's a lot
of things that are shading going on.

Speaker 12 (01:48:25):
Can I just bring this up to you as a
individual on Veterans Day where we celebrate America and all
the people who have been kind enough to lay down
their life for us.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
Please.

Speaker 12 (01:48:35):
We were founded on a conspiracy theory. The British didn't
know that we were going to separate from them when
we were colonies. That's what America is. It's been conspiracies
since the very get go. We hid in closets and
closed doors and close quarters to be able to find
a society that allowed us to create the Declaration of Independence.
This has been going on since seventeen seventy five. Matts Thomas, all.

Speaker 2 (01:48:55):
Right, let me ask you this. I've not been in
college in a while, John, you were in college. Is
telling the truth or is he making this stuff up
about you as sister? Yeah? Oh that's fairly accurate. All right, Bingo,
I'm gonna test you bow and think it's see if
you guys took your pre construction class. All right, let's
get us some more conspiracies. You do like college football?

(01:49:17):
You do love the sec? Oh do I? You are
an Alabama honk.

Speaker 12 (01:49:21):
I try to let that be the last of my
things known, but yeah, sure, yeah, we.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
Have an LSU honk in our building. We actually have
several lunks. So apparently LSU can't agree to a buyout
with Brian Kelly, right, Brian Kelly was offered two different amounts,
not the full. I believe it's a fifty four million
dollars fifty three million dollars, and Brian Kelly has said, look,
I'm not going to talk to you about this until

(01:49:45):
you cut me to check for fifty three million dollars.
I think one dollar value was thirty. I think one
was a little bit less than that. They were.

Speaker 12 (01:49:51):
They were roughly about eighteen to twenty million dollars lost.
Somebody was supposed to get paid. So he's like, shut
your mo mass up.

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
You fired me. They're trying now. LSU's trying to fire
the hymn for cause. The cause is you didn't think
he won enough. Yeah, that's not a reason why you
don't pay out the contract. I mean, I don't need
to dumb it down here, but tell me where LSU
is going to not have to pay the full fifty three.

Speaker 12 (01:50:13):
Basically, what the ruling is from my understanding, because Scott
Woodward was the one to make the move to let
go of Brian Kelly, and then Scott Woodward was fired
in the process following by Jeff Landry, the governor, who
currently sounds like Farmer Fran from the water Boy. They
don't believe that Brian Kelly was properly fired because of

(01:50:34):
Scott Woodard didn't have the authority to fire him. So
since there is not an authority of him to be
able to fire him, this is where we get back
to the well, if you're firing me, you have to
fire me with the full out buyout clause of the
fifty three months.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
If he's not probably fired, then he should have been
inherit his job back. That's what no.

Speaker 12 (01:50:50):
My first thing was is that, okay, well, if Brian
Kelly wasn't properly fired by LSU and the right people
didn't actually write the check, then how about you show
up in the building on Monday morning and say all right,
let's get prepared for Arkansas because technically I'm not fired.
Because if you say that I am not out of
a job and I wasn't properly fired, then.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
I should be able to come right back in.

Speaker 12 (01:51:11):
My key cards should be able to scan right on
the door, and I should be able to get ready
for the Arkansas game.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
Now, I don't deal in employment law, but if I'm
the employee that has been told to leave, I don't
care if the logistics are proper on this. If the
procedures are problem. If you've told me to leave and
I have a contract that says that I'm paid out
this money whether I'm working on the job or not,
that's on you to properly fire me, or that's on
you to properly a place.

Speaker 12 (01:51:34):
No, that's on you to properly give me my money
and figure out what you want to do with the
next spress of a couple of minutes. It's one hundred
percent factual. Like listen, Brian Kelly was never a guy
who bought into the culture of Louisiana, never wanted to
do things the way that have been done underneath Nick
Saban and Orgeron and Les Miles, all of which who
won national titles.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
And that's fine. You don't want to do it their way,
so be it.

Speaker 12 (01:51:56):
But you are firing him because if he didn't win
enough games to your standard, that's fine, hit reset. You're
also getting reset after paying him the fifty three million
dollars that he is owed. Because if you said, we
cannot stomach looking at you anymore, we cannot stomach seeing
you waste time and opportunities and resources. We have got
to fix this before it gets too far out of control.

(01:52:18):
And to fix a problem, you gotta pay a lot
of money. You have to pay fifty three million dollars
because if you realize you sucked at hiring the dude
to begin with, that's on you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
That's on it. It is completely on LSU And obviously
paying him thirty million dollars and is compared to paying
fifty three that makes a huge difference because you're gonna
probably take that money that you would have spent towards
him and put it towards your new coach.

Speaker 12 (01:52:40):
That's the problem is that right now it limits your
resources to be able to go out. So perfect example,
Lane Kiffin name that everyone wants to target toward LSU.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
I get it makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 12 (01:52:50):
Lane Kiffin has been one of the top coaches in
college football last three years, being able to win out
into place like Ole Miss Lane Kifn's gonna get paid
fifteen million dollars by somebody this offseason Ole Miss Florida,
LSU Well, Ole Miss has fifteen million dollars to pay
Lane Kiffin. Florida has fifteen million dollars to pay Lane Kiffin.
Yu Wanta who doesn't have fifteen million dollars to pay

(01:53:12):
Lane Kiffin if they have to pay fifty three million
dollars to the former coach and all of his staff
that no longer is employed. LSU, So why the hell
are you not trying to come up with a proper
buyout to be able to afford the guy that you
want to come on into your early fix the ship,
because now you're stuck with who Eric Morris? And I
love me some Eric Morris from UNT I really do,
but he's costing you seven million dollars at most.

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
He's not cost you fifteen like Lanes, and you're settling
for that. Oh way, Lane standing at ole Miss, I'll
just saying.

Speaker 12 (01:53:40):
One hundred percent, he's saying to Ole Miss, right, And
I hate that because of I said, and I have
to eat crowl and look like a dumb ass. Yeah
it's fine, I mean yeah that nobody would turned on
LSU Lange given one hundred percent is turned down LSU,
he's staying at ole Miss.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
When Ole Miss comes to the table and gives them money,
he's not moving. He's got he's got a good thing
going there now unless you's still a great job of
let's hide this, but money could become an issue. Think
about this for a second.

Speaker 12 (01:54:03):
Every program that got to the level of success that
it has been at had to make sure that they
paid for the right coach to turn the program around.
Look at Alabama, look at Texas, look at Oklahoma, USC Georgia,
all them prominent jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
All of them were willing to pay for the right coach.

Speaker 12 (01:54:19):
Ole Miss could be the next Alabama simply by paying
to keep blankiffing happy. And also he's really happy on Oxford.
And oh, by the way, paying multimillions of dollars for
your coordinators too. These coordinator contracts are getting you've seen.
I didn't realize this. Do you know how much both
Charlie Wise Junior and peakle Wing are getting paid?

Speaker 2 (01:54:34):
Tell them who they are.

Speaker 12 (01:54:35):
They're their offensive and defense coordinator for all Miss. They're
over two million dollars. They're the highest paid coordinators in
the SEC.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
Yeah. Yeah, being them in charge of half the team
not Terrible twelve forty four on The Matt Thomas Show
with Ross seven to one three two one two five
seven ninety seven one three two one two five seven nine,
if you want to get it on the LSU side
of things, And then we got some Tiger fans bumping around.
I mean, I don't see how you're gonna have to
pay out the full dollars. I just I just can't.

(01:55:03):
I don't know unless he did something that they're hiding
that can cause it for calls termination. But it was
firing up because he was a jerk. He was fire
because he didn't win enough games. And if you don't
like the guy, that's one thing. But the contract stipulates
he is to coach the football team. And if you
decide you want to go in a different direction because
he's not winning enough, then he wants that check and

(01:55:23):
he probably wants it in one lump summing check.

Speaker 12 (01:55:24):
And I would not complain any other way to have it,
especially because you're the dumbasses who hired him to begin with.
Now you're the dumbasses who have to fire him and
give him the money.

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety seven, one, three, two, one, two, five, seven,
and fifteen minutes, we're gonna discuss did the Texans win
against the Jaguars? Get your fuel going again for the
Texans making the playoffs? All right? Twelve fifty two, It

(01:55:54):
is a Matt Thomas Show with Ross Cole Thompson. Hang
out with me today till two o'clock. Thank you for
doing that shit that Cole would be busy coming up
in the next handful of weeks here on the radio station.
Look forward to seeing how that moves along. We got
Rockets basketball coming up tomorrow against the Washington Wizards. We
have Nico Harrison out as a general manager of the Mavericks.

(01:56:15):
It's funny they just hired yesterday a chief communications officer.
Her name is Gina Miller. She was with Dallas FC,
wasn't she. Yes. I went to college with her, really,
and she was also an intern with the Rockets when
the Rockets won I believe, their second NBA championship, and
I was the PA announcer.

Speaker 12 (01:56:36):
Don't take this the wrong way, but you're gonna take
it the wrong way.

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
I thought she was my age. No, she's my age.

Speaker 12 (01:56:43):
That's again, that's just way more about you than it
does about her.

Speaker 2 (01:56:46):
I don't think it's anything bad about me or him
or her. No, Gina has uh we went to school together,
h you of aged. We were in at least two
classes together. She has got a radio TV background. She
was a sports anchor in Dallas for a while, LA
for a while, and then she started working on the
team side with FC Dallas and she's done some other

(01:57:08):
things and then they just literally hired her. And my
guess they said, come in here and fix this mess.

Speaker 16 (01:57:15):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
I mean, there's all this stuff with Nico Harrison just
didn't pop up yesterday. There was talk about this probably
for several weeks.

Speaker 12 (01:57:20):
Oh, I mean I had heard that he was on
thin ice for a while. But you know it's funny that, Hey,
the day that she gets hired, that's his last day there.
It's like, can you imagine a worse first day to
be able to come and join the franchise if you
had no idea that that was going on.

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
So let's localize this a little bit. Let's talk about
what we had to go through in terms of craziness.
I think when Jack Easterby was running operations here, so
Pastor Jack, the people of Houston did not hide the
fact from Hannah and Cal. That mainly Cal because Hannah
Wily wasn't involved too much of the time that you
got to get this jibbroni out of here. He was

(01:57:55):
literally a snake all salesman, probably still to this day.
And there's a reason why that he doesn't have a
real job anymore because the reputation is out. It was
a bad person and got people fired and quit and
all the sorts of things. He was just a bad dude,
and bad dude shouldn't get second out.

Speaker 12 (01:58:10):
He liked him, Nobody want to be around him, nobody
thought he was good at his job.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
And he's thus not been any sort of NFL front
offices since then. No surprise on that.

Speaker 12 (01:58:18):
I think he's been in like a college as a chaplain.
I think that's the most.

Speaker 2 (01:58:21):
That's what I want to associ Yeah, I don't know
who was with, but yeah, college chaplin, that's it. But
he'll never be he'll never get into a front office
of an NFL team again because he's a snake.

Speaker 12 (01:58:31):
To be completely fair, when you pitch the idea of
hiring Josh McCown as your next head coach, automatically that
should disqualify you from ever working in front office again.

Speaker 2 (01:58:40):
Yeah, he wanted people around that he could pull their strings, right.

Speaker 12 (01:58:43):
He wanted to have full control of everything, and then
when somebody fought back, they were no longer seen again.

Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
So wisely, Hannah said, look, when I go shopping, I
don't want to be made fun of. When I go
to my lunches at Needlas markup, I want to make
sure that the servers are like, man, you are this
Texan team with a used to be a fan, but
y'all suck. So she came first of all they probably

(01:59:08):
hired a PR firm, will never know this, and said,
what's wrong with the organization? We're not winning, which is
number one paramount. Everything starts with winning, right, Jerry Jones
would be would be an eighty two year old old
funny funny cood if he was winning. But he's eighty
two years old and losing. They're not going to the
playoffs losing because of him. But that's but if you win,
you get past the quirkiness because it solves everything. Yeah,

(01:59:30):
like Cal is lovable when you win all these AFC
style championships. But he's telling me, boy, when you're losing
y'all correct. Correct. So the first thing is they probably
hired a PR firm and said, hey, you got to
get rid of Easterbury, which they did. You have to
go get a real gender manager, and you got to
fire your coach, in which they did. So check check,
check all the box. Check. Next thing you gotta do
is you gotta make sure Cal doesn't speak unless you're

(01:59:51):
right next to him. And it works out well. And frankly,
she's more of the face of the franchise than Cal is. Everything.
From a PR standpoint, they listen to and got it right.
And maybe that's what's going to have to happen in
Dallas here, is they're going to say, look, we have
taken such a PR hit. When you have seventeen eighteen,
nineteen thousand people screaming Fire and Nico at multiple games,

(02:00:17):
that's when you sometimes have to listen to fans. Now,
I said this before in the ten o'clock hour. You
don't always want to listen to fans because every single
time something goes wrong, they want them people fired. I
mean they want to Joe Aspired fire multiple times, they
want to aj Hinch fire multiple times.

Speaker 12 (02:00:31):
There's been people saying fired to Miko. Not a lot,
but there have been a few. No, but again, I
don't want to let a small minority do it. But remember,
if you listen, but this was this was nineteen thousand
people at games. This was people standing outside of the
arenas that were burning jersey, that were putting up signs.

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
It was a it was a it was a a cacula.
It was a it was a rigorous daily occurrence. And
sometimes you got to listen to the fans, and in
this particular case, Dallas did.

Speaker 12 (02:00:59):
So. I tell you that bullying does work because of
I'll bring this to the college football landscape of things.
Who was the coach that was hired before Mike Elko
came to town Mark Stoops at Kentucky and everyone got
onto tech SAgs and everyone got on the message boards
and they said, nope, hell no.

Speaker 2 (02:01:17):
We will Greg Chiano the crap out of this to Tennessee.

Speaker 12 (02:01:20):
We have to we are not allowing our franchise to
go from bumbling Jimbo Fisher, the snake oil salesman, to
Mark Stoops.

Speaker 2 (02:01:27):
They said, nope.

Speaker 12 (02:01:28):
They called Mike Elcho, who was always the front runner
for the job, comes on in. Two years later, there
in the college football playoff, ladies and gentlemen. It's the
one thing that I can teach you in these two
hours that I am sitting in as ross. While real's counterpart,
bullying does.

Speaker 2 (02:01:42):
Work, especially in the college ranks, because if you bully
and you have a checkbook, they will one one hundred
percent listen. If you are on a fan message board,
they won't. Well, now, if you're on both, then you're
really in a good stace. I say.

Speaker 12 (02:01:58):
Now, when you have a good fan base that is
very much openly telling to the people who own message
board propaganda, which is out of place like Texas A
and M and a place like Bama. In a place
like Texas, the major schools, when you listen to them
and you have the check book, you ninety percent of
the time find a way.

Speaker 2 (02:02:16):
To get this one right. And Texas A and M
got this one right. Yeah, Because what the alums do
is the ad will call the alums say hey, we're
about to hire this person, and they're like, I'm not
into this guy. Uh, don't call me for money.

Speaker 12 (02:02:28):
Hey, hey, uh, here's that twelve million dollars I'm about
to hit send to hire him.

Speaker 2 (02:02:32):
Watch what happens. Yeah, that was it. That's also dangerous too,
that allow any alums with big pocketbooks determine who you
really want to hire.

Speaker 12 (02:02:39):
Yeah, because then if you allow one person to make
that higher, then you turn to Auburn.

Speaker 2 (02:02:43):
Yeah, all right. Twelve fifty nine, It is the Matt
Thomas Show with Ross Cole's gonna be in front of
their hour seven one three two, one two five seven
ninety seven one three two one two five seven ninety
If you want to come in on the conversation, I
want to ask you all a question. Did the Texans
victory over the Jaguars on Sunday give you greater hope

(02:03:05):
that this team could make the playoffs? And I look,
I'm going to Texans fan blogs and websites that are
giving me this to me, but it can't be just
those one or two weeps. It's got to be the
other folks are doing the exact same thing. Plus, we
do have a live report we want to play from you,
not live, but a report from a Jacksonville TV station.
They have damn lost their mind. They still can't get
over what they they saw from their team on Sunday.

(02:03:26):
We'll play that for you coming up. Seven one three
two one two five, seven ninety is the Matt Thomas
Show with Ross. All Right, my buddy Cole Thompson is
in for this hour. We've got, believe it or not,
coming up at one fifty. All things about Veterans Day
and all things about our military, and shout out to
all of us, all of you that have served this

(02:03:47):
great country of ours. Thank you very much for allowing
to call myself to babble about sports for four or
five hours a day.

Speaker 12 (02:03:54):
Yeah, I appreciate you guys that way, I don't have
to be on the front line, and ladies too. Don't
forget the ladies and ladies anybody out there that's wanted
to lay down their life so I can go ahead
and talk about nonsensical stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:04:03):
Correct, meet people pay me that allows us to go
to Jacksonville TV station. I played some sound bite yesterday
of how the media they had lost their mind of
the game. I always loved the man on the street stories. Yes,
so I found one yesterday from Jacksonville TV station. Doesn't
really matter what station it was, but it was a legit.
It was like a you know they call what they
call it man on the Streets where the reporter says, hey,

(02:04:25):
I'm here at this bar and everybody's having a good time,
and we had a chance to catch up with fans.
So just to give you a perspective of how bat
blank crazy Jacksonville was Sunday, here is the just a
sample of what we had from a local TV station
Jacksonville after the Jaguars lost that fourth corps lead to
the Texans.

Speaker 15 (02:04:42):
A huge upset, maybe the biggest ever is the Jags
blow it what Summer telling me is the worst loss
in franchise history. The team was up nineteen points in
the fourth quarter and somehow still let it slip away,
with the Texans beating the Jags thirty six to twenty nine.
News for jack reporter Sophia Vittela joins us outside EverBank Stadium,

(02:05:04):
where a watch party just wrapped up. Sophia, how disappointed
are these fans?

Speaker 17 (02:05:11):
Hey, Scott, good evening, But is the evening actually good
after what we just saw? I'm just not so sure
they're calling this one of the most unbelievable losses in
Jaguar history. I'm gonna try and tell you what it
looked like. It sounded like in this watch party. You know,
we were really excited the Jags were winning by nearly
twenty points. They had this big lead, so people were screaming,

(02:05:34):
they were cheering, even dancing, so excited to see what
they thought would be a huge win for the Jags.
But in the last minutes seconds of the game, everything changed, guys.
As you know, so all of the people in there,
their smiles quickly faded into gaps and anger. There was
one guy in a JAG's costume that ripped off pieces

(02:05:57):
of his costume and.

Speaker 2 (02:05:57):
Was throwing it across the room.

Speaker 17 (02:05:59):
Other people were rolling on the ground, wailing, screaming, crying.
We also had profanities, of course, flying across the room.
A very very frustrating time for these Jacks fans who
tell me we could have won this one. They really
are so shocked. But I don't want to just tell you.
I want you to see the.

Speaker 2 (02:06:15):
Frustration for yourself. To listen to this. We were routine
for you, We were all rooting for you. We could
have got a field goll. We didn't get a field goll,
and they let the Texans beat us and their thread.

Speaker 17 (02:06:28):
Lines can you tell us how to three three texts
beat us?

Speaker 2 (02:06:38):
Guy adds, hold on, you had some more to the ends.
It looked like they were winning very bad. Should have
kept running the ball. We should have kept running the
ball when we had a lead ball.

Speaker 7 (02:06:54):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (02:06:56):
All right, that is Jacksonville TV.

Speaker 12 (02:06:58):
Are you sure that's not the inside out of daycare somewhere?

Speaker 2 (02:07:01):
Okay, Look, it was a terrible loss. Yeah, I mean
one of the worst ever, maybe the worst regular season
setback in Jaguars history. Now that I'm a historian about
Jaguar football.

Speaker 12 (02:07:13):
I mean, trust me, it is one of theirs. It's
their second worst collapse in franchise history.

Speaker 2 (02:07:20):
But there's some playoffs, are they I mean.

Speaker 12 (02:07:26):
Yes, I know what you're saying. They are the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (02:07:28):
I got I got this.

Speaker 12 (02:07:29):
They're in the playoffs because technically they have the head
to head over over Kansas City right now, correct, So
that's why they're in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (02:07:35):
And they can feel better about themselves if they beat
the Chargers this week. The Charger they're not being the
Chargers point being though, that's a really attractive Jacksonville TV
reporter going over to a bunch of people, saying, you're
gonna put me on TV. I need to kind of
sell this a little bit. Oh, she was the girl

(02:07:56):
was yelling. At the time she couldn't name three jaguars.
She went full Tyra Banks. I was rooting for you,
we were all rooted. She went full tyro with that.
It wasn't like they were playing for the national championship
or a Super Bowl appearance.

Speaker 12 (02:08:09):
They were playing in week ten to have a one
game lead over the Texans and have a wild card spot. Still,
I say, you would move from being the seventh seed
to the sixth seed. You know what that means you
face off against the three seed. The three seed right
now is the New England Patriots. It was a little much.
That's why, you know, when things are a little much,
you put it on the radio program. I love it now,

(02:08:31):
you know what I can appreciate. Every single one of
them understood the bit and they try to top each other,
like did you notice that?

Speaker 1 (02:08:37):
John?

Speaker 12 (02:08:37):
If you replay it, you'll see every single one gets
louder and louder and louder because it's like, oh, she
was out.

Speaker 2 (02:08:45):
An eleven girl A yells, I got girl, like I
gotta go bore. We could have got a field ball.
We didn't get a field and could have got al
and the three wives. Can you tell us how to
three because it better than you. You're mad. It looked like, oh, yeah,
you're really mad, very bad. You get Hey, you gotta

(02:09:12):
keep you gotta keep those for future rotten five.

Speaker 12 (02:09:17):
And then you hear the girl in the background like, hey, hey,
I didn't get enough. I I study my extra fifteen seconds.
Let me just go out and scream from behind a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:09:25):
And oh, by the way, it's not like the Jacksonville
Jaguars are enriched with great football success. You have had
a lot of losses in their life.

Speaker 12 (02:09:32):
You have one year with the boat and that's all
you have. Yeah, do you know who the boat is? Uh,
Maurice Jones, Drew no Blake Portles. Okay, oh jeez, what
a great year and playing where they went all the
way to the ANC championship and we're leading at halftime
and that's all we can say about Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (02:09:51):
Yeah, even the years of well Brunell, weren't they weren't
that they sucked? He just was good. Yeah, David was good.
I just to me, it was, hey, let's get on
television and let's make complete asses of ourselves. So that
begs a question. Now, there are some Texan Twitter accounts
that I don't follow. But the FORO you tab is
there for a reason, or somebody sends them to you,

(02:10:13):
or somebody sends them to me. That says, Hey, if
the Texans beat the Titans, which they will, which they will,
and Jacksonville loses to the Chargers, and Denver beats Kansas City,
and there's more asking that's it that the Texans could

(02:10:34):
slide into that last playoff spot at least for one week.
I'm glad that you said that last bit. We'll discuss
next one thirteen of the Matt Thomas Show at ross.
Could those three things come into play this week, especially
because as I said yesterday during to Tell the Truth, Jonathan,
and you're bagging me on for this, for this, and

(02:10:54):
Cole you were here for this too. I still think
Kansas City is going to represent the AFC in the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (02:11:01):
I just do.

Speaker 2 (02:11:01):
I don't know why. It makes some sound effects at me.
One thirteen on Sports Talk seven, Euty, all right, Nico
Harrison's been out of the general manager of the Dallas Mavericks.
The owner of the team, wrote a letter to the fans.
We'll play that, well, we'll not play. We'll read it
to you coming up at about ten minutes. I always
I wonder if Gina Miller, well I have at school

(02:11:22):
with if she wrote this and he just signed it,
or do you think he wrote it? I think I
think someone else wrote it. Yeah. Most times when they
have letters written by owners or general managers or coaches,
usually somebody else does. I got a better one for you.

Speaker 12 (02:11:33):
Do you think someone actually wrote it or they a
eyed it and then send it over to him to sign.

Speaker 2 (02:11:38):
No, you can't AII. This is too big of a move.
You can't. You can AI A thanks for being a
part of our fan base. Look forward to the season.
But when you fire your general manager after all that,
you can't AI.

Speaker 1 (02:11:49):
That.

Speaker 12 (02:11:49):
So a buddy of mine, this does a really good
job of finding out where AI is done on on
like goodbye letters for head coaches in college football. Oh yeah,
he scanned Brian Kelly. Eighty eight percent came.

Speaker 2 (02:12:02):
Back A I written? Is that right?

Speaker 12 (02:12:04):
I'm not even that's startling. I'm not even joking that
it was clearly written by a computer.

Speaker 2 (02:12:09):
Okay, so we'll read the letter to you. Coming up
at the bottom of the ARP will side how much
of it was A I written? How much of it? Yeah,
that's fair. And could you actually scan it yourself? Oh yeah,
there's that for it. Okay, why don't you?

Speaker 12 (02:12:21):
I will, I will see if I can, I will
see if I can find it, and I will send
it over to this because.

Speaker 2 (02:12:25):
I'm gonna hope it's less than fifty percent, because that's
really would be disingenuous if it was AI driven.

Speaker 12 (02:12:29):
So you mean it would be like saying, hey, we
really don't care about you because we're trying to move
the franchise out to Las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (02:12:34):
Okay, No, that's that's not AI generated. That's that's that's
the best generations. That's a Colt Thompson bad take. I
used to work with people. They never exist. Bad take.
Boulevard does not work around here, all right, to my thought,
Texans beat the Titans. Yes, the Jaguars lose to the Chargers,

(02:12:54):
and the Denver Broncos beat the Kansas City Chiefs. Of
all three things of those happened, the Texans skirted that
seventh spot in the AFC playoffs. Likelihood of all three
of those things happening on Sunday afternoon.

Speaker 12 (02:13:10):
Texans beat the Titans. Yep, Chargers beat the Jaguars Denver Beats,
the Beats, the Chiefs. That's the three would have to happen.
I go seventy percent. I go seventy percent that happens.

Speaker 2 (02:13:22):
Denver needs this win to legitimize they're they're really a
real team in the AFC. To me, that's not what
it is.

Speaker 12 (02:13:29):
Denver needs its offense to win them a football game,
I think is what legitimizes then.

Speaker 2 (02:13:34):
Okay, because of.

Speaker 12 (02:13:35):
Their defense has showed up in every single matchup, and
outside of two really good throws and bonnicks and a
run for twenty six yards, they were awful the entire
game against Houston.

Speaker 2 (02:13:45):
And if not for one fifteen minute quarter against the Giants,
they lose an embarrassing home game to the New York Giants.
And if not for.

Speaker 12 (02:13:52):
Gino Smith basically turning into the New York Jets versus
of them sell itself when they faced off against them
on Thursday Night Football, they also lose to the lost
Vegas Raiders.

Speaker 2 (02:14:00):
Yeah. I do think that all three of those things
can happen. Okay, So if they sneak back in right,
there will be an energy level around here that will
be much better than it was, say three weeks ago. Sure,
but then you've got to go do it against two
Indianapolis's a Kansas City, although if Kansas City loses to Denver,

(02:14:21):
maybe the Kansas I don't know. How do you can
you go on a Sunday night to Kansas City when
it's thirty degrees and win at Arrowhead Stadium? Because every
time the Texas go to Kansas City at night or
a playoff or anything, it doesn't turn out well for them.

Speaker 12 (02:14:33):
Texans aren't winning that game. Now, I'm choking it up
as an automatic loss. It doesn't matter. Patrick Mahomes could
have the worst game of his life the week before,
all right, he will show it up.

Speaker 2 (02:14:42):
So how will they do? We're going to macro View
here for a second Buffalo at Kansas City. Two Indianapolis games.
That's it in terms of really till more Chargers on
the road. Oh okay, that's five five. What's their record
for those five games? In just those five games one
and four? That doesn't give him in the playoffs. It doesn't, no,

(02:15:03):
because it's not a playoff team. Listen.

Speaker 12 (02:15:06):
We can go ahead and try and convince ourselves that
this is a roster that is made to be able
to trust its defense to bail it out of trouble.

Speaker 2 (02:15:13):
Guys, I still I still want the first three quarters
with Davis Mills this team. Okay, we're gonna presume that c. J.
Stride is not back for this Sunday, and.

Speaker 12 (02:15:22):
If he's not back this Sunday and you lose to Tennessee,
you don't belong in the playoff conversation to begin with.

Speaker 2 (02:15:26):
They're going to be Tennessee. On an issue, how was
this a playoff team if the general franchise, the roster
construction hasn't really changed.

Speaker 3 (02:15:39):
C J.

Speaker 2 (02:15:39):
Gardner Johnson is no longer here, but he wasn't a
huge part of it. He was a liability that costs
you and went over to Jacksonville. You never had Joe
Mixon to begin with, right, so they were still making
predictions based on the textan season without Joe Mixon. Sure,
your offensive line hasn't gotten improved. You didn't make any
trade moves.

Speaker 12 (02:15:56):
Now it hasn't gotten any worse. That's true, So you're
kind of even keeled. And by the way, when looking
back at the preseason predictions, how many times did you
read when Joe Mixon returns zero? I read it at
least three times that when Joe Mixon returns. See, I
was always in the camp because I'm an insider. The
insider said, the only one coming back.

Speaker 2 (02:16:13):
To the show. I forgot that. Matt Thomas investigat very much.
Thank you.

Speaker 12 (02:16:18):
I look at this team and I say to myself,
it's like the college football playoff. And I bring this
up because of I am a proponent of, hey, we
don't need twelve teams. We sure as I don't need
to go to fourteen or sixteen or expand it.

Speaker 2 (02:16:29):
We don't. It's for money purposes.

Speaker 12 (02:16:31):
There are not six seven teams in the AFC that
can actually win the Super Bowl. So you're a playoff
team because of everyone else behind you sucked so bad.

Speaker 2 (02:16:43):
Pittsburgh falling off the map.

Speaker 12 (02:16:46):
At Kansas City Attorney ceo off for Patrick Mahomes or
something like that. Or did Baltimore dig him off up
too big of a hole to come back from that.
Miami Stinks, Jet Stink Bills end up doing just enough
to get by as a six seed. You look at
the Jaguars, they collapse, Tennessee, they're a walking door. Mat
Daniel Jones serves into Danny Dimes the one time you
play against him and you get the win. Like all

(02:17:07):
those things propel you into the conversation of yeah, you're
a playoff team, but you're not really a playoff team.
You're a team that's basically serving as the whipping boy
for the number two seedy. You get your ass kicked
on the Saturday afternoon special Who's.

Speaker 2 (02:17:19):
Winning the AFC. Then that's why when I said came
to the city, I should not have been admonished by And.

Speaker 12 (02:17:26):
Again I actually understand. Wait, I will push back with him,
but go ahead, let's let's okay.

Speaker 5 (02:17:32):
The thing is, we can't just I feel like that's
just previous biasedness just goes straight for the Chiefs are
gonna run the table and win the AFC. Yes, okay,
if they are four other teams that we know are
ten times more solid, right ten times like whom I stop,
are such a bias charger Homer justin Herber are fake

(02:17:57):
and false. They're still eight and two if.

Speaker 12 (02:18:00):
You've got them in the playoffs and they have to
finally let bo Nicks be unleashed, and he's a boat
ten point.

Speaker 3 (02:18:05):
Game right here.

Speaker 2 (02:18:06):
So this is my point.

Speaker 5 (02:18:07):
If the Broncos are this bad and they have not
had a solid good game where their whole team is
together and Bonis hasn't showed out yet and they're eight
and two.

Speaker 2 (02:18:15):
That the Scott's living for that.

Speaker 12 (02:18:17):
Jonathan, I want to remind you that they won a
playoff game with Tim Tebow as their starting quarterback.

Speaker 5 (02:18:22):
And Kelsey has been tell you, catching touchdowns it for
a week every week. I know, yeah, I know, but
he's been he has not been. What I'm saying is
they have not been the same, and nor do that.

Speaker 2 (02:18:34):
I think.

Speaker 5 (02:18:35):
I think they're one of the weaker teams in the AFC.
I honestly think Baltimore can come back.

Speaker 2 (02:18:39):
And even you are digging yourself at grade.

Speaker 12 (02:18:41):
Okay, so to be fair, to be fair, if I
was to make a prediction right now, Baltimore would have
a very good inkling.

Speaker 2 (02:18:50):
I think I'm winning a division. I'm winning an AFC.

Speaker 12 (02:18:52):
Championship if their defense got healthy, If their defense is
as healthy as it is right now, the way that
that offense is built, and the way that Derrick Henry
pulverizes over opponents, and the fact that Lamar Jackson is
still the most accurate quarterback in the NFL, I would
take Baltimore at this point to win, the win the AFC.

Speaker 2 (02:19:08):
And we're sleeping on the Patriots. I know Drake May.
Now they're going to soil themselves in their first playoff game.
I guess got three weeks away.

Speaker 12 (02:19:19):
I know who is who's more likely to soil themselves
the Bonnicks led Denver Broncos or the first time in
the playoff Drake.

Speaker 5 (02:19:26):
May, New England Patriots the Denver Broncos. I think the
Denver Broncos a percent. I think May is fantastic. He's
MVP candidate. He's not gonna be the reason why they lose.
I just think the whole, the whole sum of the
parts that they're just they're not ready for you.

Speaker 2 (02:19:41):
And here's the bottom line.

Speaker 12 (02:19:43):
What does Kansas City have that everyone wants playoff experience?

Speaker 2 (02:19:47):
And then a quarterback?

Speaker 12 (02:19:49):
And that's just and five different skill position receives people.
You need the quarterback in the most dire games. Tell
me right now, even with an underwhelming season, are you
taking any quarterback not named Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen
over Patrick Mahomes in the playoff?

Speaker 2 (02:20:06):
No, not Herbert, not May, not.

Speaker 12 (02:20:11):
Bo not Danny Dimes, not Aaron Rodgers who is sometimes
beating father Time.

Speaker 2 (02:20:16):
Honestly, the team that's built for it, it's probably the Colts,
but you're waiting for Danny Dimes to become the Danny
Dimes of the New York Chiants. You have to slow
down Jonathan Taylor. You win the football game.

Speaker 12 (02:20:27):
They didn't slow down Jonathan Taylor at all.

Speaker 2 (02:20:29):
And guess what happened. He came back crazy. He caused,
he caused.

Speaker 12 (02:20:34):
There is a national warrant of everyone talking about what's
been going on in the NFL because of it. There
is a national crisis going on Atlanta because of you
had a win and you found a way to screw
it on up because Jonathan Taylor decided to go ahead
and create assault on the city of Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (02:20:49):
And by the way, he will be going into the
Texas Ring of Honor too. There are more Colts in
the Ring of Honor. There will be Texans.

Speaker 12 (02:20:57):
T Y Hilton, yep, Marvin Harrison, Marvin Harrison. Do you
throw Reggie up there?

Speaker 2 (02:21:02):
Reggie Wayne? Do you throw a.

Speaker 3 (02:21:05):
Y?

Speaker 2 (02:21:05):
Do you throw Dwight Freeney? That's six j T seven?
Do you throw Dallas Clark in that conversation? Okay, so
you got seven Colts in the Texans Ring of Honor.
You have Janice, jjj Andre and Bob.

Speaker 12 (02:21:24):
Do you think that there's another one that belongs there from.

Speaker 2 (02:21:27):
The Texans Sids. Don't even say it.

Speaker 12 (02:21:30):
You wouldn't say the Andre. Oh it's never gonna happen. Okay,
so you would not throw reasons not related to football?
What about arian No?

Speaker 2 (02:21:37):
Not good enough, not long enough? What about whenever he
has done playing football? Would you bout him? Will Anderson? Oh, yeah,
there's He's on the path for sure. He is on
the path. He is on the path. I would agree
with you. What about Nico on the path on the
path fair enough?

Speaker 1 (02:21:53):
But no?

Speaker 2 (02:21:54):
No, yes? Is that at that point in damy.

Speaker 12 (02:21:55):
I don't disagree though, Jonathan, I agree with you on this.
I do not think ball uh that Kansaity is going
to win the AFC this year.

Speaker 2 (02:22:02):
I don't. But I'm not gonna say that match wrong.

Speaker 12 (02:22:06):
He's apt.

Speaker 5 (02:22:09):
You don't happen to go convincing I mean convincing win
against bow Knicks for me to even like, even.

Speaker 12 (02:22:18):
Out of curiosity, just out of curious, I I I
have to know this out of curiosity. Are you telling
me that if bow Nicks has a three interception game
and Patrick Mahomes balls on out, but he throws a
pick six on the final play and Denver wins.

Speaker 5 (02:22:32):
You're telling you're telling me that you still are not
believe their season is make or breaking these next two weeks.

Speaker 2 (02:22:39):
No chance, no dominate.

Speaker 12 (02:22:42):
I want you to look at Kansas City's schedule. Okay,
they look I'm looking at it right now. Inny, Indy, Denver,
you have Dallas, you have the Chargers who are going
to choke it away at this point, Tennessee, Houston, Las Vegas,
and then Denver a second time.

Speaker 2 (02:22:58):
They're gonna be hosting playoff games. Stutter in the playoff game?
Are you? Some defense is top nuts? They could even
lose that game.

Speaker 12 (02:23:06):
There was a top Dots defense that just came through
a week ago. I guess what happened. He ended up
winning and holding out for five field goals.

Speaker 2 (02:23:13):
I don't believe them. I don't believe in them. That's
just what it is, all right. The Mavericks owner wrote,
I'm sorry letter to Nico about Nico Harrison and the
way he's treated the fans. We'll read it to you
next and we're gonna find out how much of that
is Ai generated and please gotta be a small one.
It's going to be over fifty percent. Oh God, I
hope you're wrong. You know what, it would be very Dallas.

(02:23:35):
It'd be very artificial. You know, Dallas is artificial exactly.
Everything about the mis fake espn on here in the TV,
in the booth and uh if Brian Kelly files suit
against LSU, claims school wants a fire from cause, yeah, good, Brian,
you know what. I'm not a Brian Kelly guy. I
thought it was askedine for him to leave Notre Dame. Yeah,

(02:23:56):
but that was LSU's call. Day hired him. He wasn't
authentic when he got there, probably wasn't very authentic at
any point in his Baton Rouge life. He wasn't. But
that's that's what they chose. And you gotta sometimes you
gotta take the al. And I think LSU's gotta take
the al the way that view it is. And I've
always thought this way.

Speaker 12 (02:24:14):
The people Louisiana can see right through your charade because
they know how much you make fun of them, They
know how much talk about being in the boondocks, they
know how much you call them hillbillies. They could see
right through whenever you're lying through your teeth. If you
embrace them for who they are, they will be the
assaulted their type of mentality.

Speaker 2 (02:24:30):
People.

Speaker 12 (02:24:32):
You screwed up by hiring Brian Kelly because he never
cared about you. And unfortunately Brian Kelly wasn't fired for cause.
He was fired for not fitting the culture. Well there
was a cause he was winning enough. Yeah, he was
fired for sucking against really really bad teams and not
being able to win enough games. And he came on
in for the identity of Hey, I won a lot
at Notre Dame where I could compete against nobody and

(02:24:52):
I could make my own schedule.

Speaker 2 (02:24:54):
Yeah, that was it.

Speaker 12 (02:24:55):
And every other coach that came on through, including bumbling
ed Orgeron, who truly was the the epitome of what
Louisiana is, won a national title in four years, and
in four years you have what one win over Alabama.
Great story, bro, that's not good enough down here, never
should be. All right, So here comes the letter.

Speaker 2 (02:25:15):
I won't putting music behind it because I want you
to be able to see have you been able to
figure out if this ar generator or not? Not even
a little bit? Okay, Dear MAVs family on May thirtieth,
two thousand. Listen to this, this.

Speaker 12 (02:25:29):
Held up held up on May thirtieth, starting off of
the day, already seems like we're entering AI territory.

Speaker 2 (02:25:37):
On May thirtieth, twenty twenty four, the Mavericks won the
Western Conference Championship. We came up short in the NBA Finals,
but we all agreed our future was bright. As fans
of this franchise, you have every right to demand a
commitment to success from us. What does your AR meter
say at this point? I would go at about a
ten percent. Okay, That opening line is the AI. Everything
else feels very genuine. No one associated with the Mavericks

(02:26:01):
organization is happy with the start of what we all
believe would be a promising season. You have high expectations
for the Mavericks, and I share them with you. When
the results don't meet expectations, it's my responsibility to act.
I made the decision to part ways with general manager
Nico Harris. Though the majority of the twenty twenty five
twenty six season remains to be played, and I know
our players are deeply committed to a winning culture. The

(02:26:23):
decision was critical to moving our franchise towards a positive direction.
I understand the profound impact these difficult last several months
have had. Please know I'm fully committed to the success
of the Mavericks. Thank you for your support, thank you
for holding us accountable, and thank you for your passion,
and you for your patience. You deserve transparency and a
team that reflects your spirit. Our goal is to return

(02:26:44):
winning basketball to Dallas and win championships. Our family is
committed to that mission into continuing to invest in Dallas
and the Mavericks' future. Please join me and continuing to
cheer on our players and supporting all those who work
to make this organization the best it can be. Go MAVs.
Thank you, Patrick Dumont. Now a couple of things.

Speaker 12 (02:27:04):
Okay, good letter, very solid, that was written by somebody
not named Patrick Dumont.

Speaker 2 (02:27:09):
Yes maybe Gina, you never know. Okay, So somebody and
maybe even a higher beyond the Dallas Maverick stort a
high end PR. They hired a PR for him to write,
for sure, and that happens all the time. Yes, I
would say probably twenty five percent of letters that are
written by coaches and above are written by people.

Speaker 12 (02:27:25):
Not or it was fifty AI and somebody went in
and changed some words around to make it sound more efficient.

Speaker 2 (02:27:30):
I see. The problem is if you AI that and
you catch like, if you just general Cole catch that, Yeah,
word travels that it was aied. That's even a bad look.
There's a slap in the face to your fan base.

Speaker 4 (02:27:40):
Right.

Speaker 12 (02:27:40):
We made the move and I don't even have enough
time to be able to go write a polished letter
that says my dad.

Speaker 2 (02:27:45):
Mad Now as a pr side of this for the team,
I would not put Patrick Dumont in front of a microphone.
My guess is they're saying this letter says it all.
There's not much more to be said. Now. The question
would be to me, if I was a Dallas Maverick fan,
how much of this, of this responsibility, of this tough start,

(02:28:09):
of this tough ending of the trade, are you personally
responsible for because owners typically it's the buck stops with
the owner. Correct, Yes, unless no, there's no one less.
There's no one less, but there is a I really
thought Nico was going to do the right thing for us.

(02:28:31):
I wasn't doing this because I'm trying to move the
team to Las Vegas. Stay out of this goal. I
wasn't trying to do this because I was really getting
some advice from my general manager that said, you need
to really think hard about whether or not you want
to pay super max money to a guy who were
openly concerned about whether or not he can stay healthy

(02:28:52):
to help us win a championship. He's had aches and
pains over his NBA career. Frankly, everybody has. Kevin Duran
has had aches and pains over a lot of his
NBA career. It didn't stop the Rockets from saying, you
know what, I'm going to take him for what I
can get from him, and he's going to be awesome
for us. So those questions about how much did you know,

(02:29:14):
how much did you accept? How much did you say?
This is on you, this is your call, you make it,
I'm went in for it. How much of this was
lucas a tub? And I don't want to pay a
guy sixty million dollars be a tub. I don't care
how good he is. Just give me fair market value
in return. And if I'm Patrick Dumont and I don't
have an evaluation of whether what exactly is good fair value,

(02:29:35):
I mean Anthony Davis an All Star Andy Davis, not childliver,
Anthony Davis, just this biggest problems. Can't stay healthy, right,
And anybody that would have done any recon or looked
at the resume of Anthony Davis would have said, yeah,
he's really good when he plays.

Speaker 12 (02:29:49):
And he and he plays less than the guy that
we're about ready to trip him way, that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (02:29:53):
So I don't believe this is a I driven. It
better not be, or it's going to get out it was,
and that's gonna be bad. But secondly, I want to
know how deep down Patrick Dumont feels about this. I
think bringing the fane of the arena and sitting him
down and sitting in the Laker jersey that wasn't for show.
I think he was trying to say, look, I've screwed

(02:30:14):
up here, I'm goofed and I can't let this go
on anymore. So if he were to grade out how
this whole thing is, I give him a B for
recovery in this thing, I really do. I give you
an F.

Speaker 12 (02:30:26):
I give you an F entirely and because of if
you are smart enough to buy an NBA franchise.

Speaker 2 (02:30:32):
I'm not talking about the whole thing. No, no, no,
I don't. Okay, just to make sure you know.

Speaker 12 (02:30:35):
But if you're smart enough to buy an NBA franchise,
a very historic one that has been in the public
limelight for years, even if you use this as kind
of like a cash grab and just a way for
you to go profit and bring in more money, you
should know about your team before you sign off of
the dotted line. There are not ten players better in
the NBA than Luca, and Luca through seven games this

(02:30:57):
season with the team that you trade him to is
averaging newly a triple double with thirty seven points per night.

Speaker 2 (02:31:04):
So you out of that together, and he's playing, and
he's playing. You out of that together.

Speaker 12 (02:31:09):
You're telling me that either you got bad recon from
the general manager who when everyone made it clear the
second that the trade was official and Sean's were on Twitter,
holy crap, this is the worst trade we have ever
seen in the history of the NBA. Ye you should
have fired him on the spot, yep.

Speaker 2 (02:31:26):
Or you should have.

Speaker 12 (02:31:27):
Done anything possible to nix the deal before it got out.

Speaker 2 (02:31:31):
But that's on you.

Speaker 12 (02:31:32):
That's not on anybody else other than just you as
a as an owner of a team. And now you're
having to pay the come uppe's for it. So I
don't feel bad for you. I don't care that you
run a latter to the city. You cost a franchise,
potentially a great championship.

Speaker 15 (02:31:46):
This is all on you.

Speaker 12 (02:31:48):
You just said this, man, you're the last line of defense.
You had every opportunity to say Nope, we're not doing this.

Speaker 2 (02:31:56):
You signed off on it. Pay the price, and I'm sorry,
I say standing for in the media. Take the criticism,
don't let go. But if you're on the other side
of it, if you're on the general man, if you're
on the Maverick side, you're not letting a guy speak.
You're just not.

Speaker 1 (02:32:08):
You're not. But you need to.

Speaker 12 (02:32:09):
And the reason why you need to is because if
you had to make sure that you never put in
that position together. I can tell you and I have
talked about this. We make mistakes. When you make a
mistake that is so bad me personally, drink it tequila.
Guess what I'm never doing again. I cannot function ever
touching tequila. You gotta learn from your mistakes. I learned
from my mistake. You gotta address the media that way. Okay,

(02:32:32):
that's the fan in you. That's the media side of you.
That's the great conversation part of it. But having been
on both sides of the fence on this one, I
can see them saying, you wrote your letter, you're good
from the Maverick and you made your decisions from the
Mavericks standpoint. I completely understand why he is not getting
in front of the mic. Believe it or not, is
up next.

Speaker 2 (02:32:50):
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one two five seven ninety seven one three two one
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call what's your favorite Jack Johnson song?

Speaker 12 (02:33:03):
Banana pancakes? Hmmm, that are upside down. I'm gonna go
upside down. It's also my favorite kind of cake.

Speaker 2 (02:33:09):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety All right, tomorrow,
we gotta shut your bow masks up. We got what else?
I got? You got a rock his game to get
to email? Dolk is gonna join us on Thursday. Uh,
Channel Room's gonna join us fro Las Vegas on Thursday.

(02:33:30):
Is that where the Winter meetings are right now? No,
it's not winters General Energy meeting. Yeah, I don't know
why they don't why they do two.

Speaker 12 (02:33:36):
Different ones and they do it at two different locations too,
that's dumb. Just do it back and back or just
you know, or just stay there for ten days or
whatever fixt six out. I mean, I understand why they did.
You hear who was out at GM meetings though from Burvaldez.

Speaker 5 (02:33:50):
How do you feel about that. He's trying to He's
trying to probably work on his reputation.

Speaker 2 (02:33:57):
I think I can't.

Speaker 12 (02:33:58):
The money that is being talked about for him is
Gray Cray. You think it's I think it's too low.
I think one hundred and twenty million dollars is a
steal for five years, I think I think he is.
I don't like to predict injuries because that makes me
feel like I'm a shallow human being. But he's been
healthy for too long I mean serious. So it's the
Dylan Ce's effect. It's it's injured, plus the fact that

(02:34:20):
he can crack like an egg. We saw a firsthand.
I'm telling you right now, Matt Thomas, if we see
Dylan Ce sign here, he will be one of the
biggest bust of a signings that we have ever seen.

Speaker 2 (02:34:27):
In I got feeling that Dylan cease was not gonna
be an astromember. You did five minutes left to go
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(02:34:48):
ninety seven one three two one two five seven ninety.
Today's edition of Believing or Not is all things about
Veterans Day. I'll read you statement about anything of revolving
our military statements, completely notterly accurate. You'll say this if
Samon's Ernie is fun, funk and Manepp. You'll say this
not to Believe or Not in a row on all
things about Veterans Day in the military, and when you
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(02:35:11):
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August twenty eighth at the Woodlands Pavilion. Seven one three
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ready to play believe.

Speaker 10 (02:35:29):
It or not?

Speaker 2 (02:35:31):
Believe it, Matt. Veterans Day was originally established on November
eleventh of nineteen nineteen to commemorate the armistice between the
Allies of World War One and Germany, marking the end
of World War One. Believe it or not.

Speaker 1 (02:35:44):
Believe it?

Speaker 2 (02:35:45):
Let's believe it has a very factual statement. I say
that was way too on the nose. Statement number two
for the one in California is the US state which
has the most military veterans. Believe it or not.

Speaker 4 (02:35:55):
Not they do?

Speaker 2 (02:35:57):
Sorry, California. I would have guess Florida. Well, I usually
go California, Florida, Texas or New York states.

Speaker 12 (02:36:05):
I would have gone with I think of those who
make a lot of sense though easy on seven.

Speaker 2 (02:36:09):
On easy, you're ready to play. Believe it or not
Believe it. Veterans Day is always on November the eleventh.
I e eleven eleven. Believe it or not believe it?
That's right, I believe it. Statement number two for the
way fourteen presidents have served in the US military. Believe
it or not?

Speaker 1 (02:36:31):
Not?

Speaker 2 (02:36:32):
Twenty six? Congratulations nicely, don I would have guessed more. Yeah,
four I would guess way more twenty. I want to
make sure it was not even like minutiasque Renee on seven, Oni, Renee,
what was your favorite part of today's ten to two
radio show?

Speaker 3 (02:36:49):
What you think women don't listen to your show?

Speaker 2 (02:36:52):
What was your favorite part?

Speaker 14 (02:36:55):
Well, I'd say the Mavericks talk.

Speaker 2 (02:36:58):
The term semper five use by the United States a
Marine Corps means defend forever, believe.

Speaker 5 (02:37:04):
It or not.

Speaker 16 (02:37:07):
Believe it?

Speaker 2 (02:37:08):
No, it means always faithful. Brenee, You're faithful does and
for that we thank you. She is a listener me
Joel On seven, Are you ready to play Believe it
or not? Yes, sir. The tomb of the Unknown Soldier
can be found in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. Believe it or not?

Speaker 10 (02:37:26):
Believe it?

Speaker 2 (02:37:26):
No, Virginia. I knew that was going to get all right.
Let's go to uh Steve on Sevenati, Steve, you're ready
to play believe it or not? Believe it? The traditional
symbol of Veterans Day is the white carnation. Believe it
or not not it is the red poppy flower. Of course,

(02:37:47):
it's not the white carnation. Statement number two for the
win of all the military branches, the Army is the oldest.
Believe it or not, it is June nineteenth, seventeen seventy five.
Navy was three months later than that. I thought the

(02:38:07):
Navy was first. I would have lost on that one.
And that's it made one one easy one today. By
the way, thanks everybody again for serving our country. Thank you.
I hope you have a nice relaxing day. Take care
of a veteran, Thank them for their service. Thank all
of you for your service. Thank you for listening. Thank
you Cole for coming in for a couple of hours.
Say time, friend, and let's get off of this ridiculous
thought of Dallas a tournament with the team at the
Las Vegas never and I will bring this up with

(02:38:29):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wesler on What Show Day Team.
Talk to you tomorrow at ten right here on seven,
Natty