Jeremy Pena Hires Scott Boras For His New Agent, Does This Mean Anything? Astros Start Their Series Tonight vs Phillies

Jeremy Pena Hires Scott Boras For His New Agent, Does This Mean Anything? Astros Start Their Series Tonight vs Phillies

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is The Matt Thomas Show with Ross.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Ten oh one of Mstown. Good morning again and welcome
to a Tuesday edition of The Matt Thomas Show with Ross.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
We are here today until two o'clock. We have some
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(00:40):
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we retire when I hit the lotto, we'll do off
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hits the lottery. We got to take care of each other.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Now. I've got family, a bigger family than you man.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
But come on, man, that's not really your fault. I
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All right, So when we retire, hopefully in about I
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Speaker 3 (01:15):
All right, so yesterday was in the world of sports,
especially for us that are hues eccentric radio host. I mean,
not a damn thing. Astros are off. The Kevin Durant
mania obviously was at a super high.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
But it's fire still burning though.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
We'll obviously get into that a little bit, especially when
we think about what the Rockets could be doing.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
There's a little bit of news on the Rockets we'll
get to today, but.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Largely it was a night where you had to acquiesce
to your family and just watch the female shows. Okay,
well that you were cleaning out the gutters, and you did.
You were knocking out the honey do list. I did
remove a chair from my bedroom put it outside. I
will give you that this is broken. Okay, So the
don't prepare it please. I have no skills of that whatsoever.

(02:10):
So I'm just mine on my own business, just looking
on Twitter watching I've been I told this, sir Ross
before the show today. I've been obsessed with watching people
play blackjack on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes, that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I don't know if they're set up or they're really authentic.
A lot of them got to be set up because
you're really not supposed to build a film the now.
One time I did have a hand with involving four
aces that they let me put out there. Remember that
hand I had during the summer. I was like, last
year I put a picture of it, and I said,
can I take a picture? And this staid sure, but
largely you're not supposed to be able.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
To show off what you're doing on the blackjack table.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
So that's just mind on my own business. And then
damn Chandler Rome, what did he do? A little nugget?
Not him being a little nugget, just a little nugget.
You're a little nugget. Tim of the Road's adorable. He's
not a little nugget.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Here's been a little nugget. He's more of a PENI
ass we love it.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Anyway, said that Jeremy pania Is got new representation and
you're like, Okay, that's what sam and agents change all
the time.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Matt.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Well, I'm glad you asked sports RV because Scott Boris is.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Now his agent.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Scotty me.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
So let's put this in perspective.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Okay, the two biggest free agents not coming up now,
but in thirty two to three years from now, because
we're a number one free agent at this point would be.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Fromber Yes, he and he gone.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
The next two down the road will be the two
most affective players on this year's baseball team, Jeremy Panna
and Hunter Brown.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Both are going to want to get paid. Both deserve
to get paid.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
They have crescendoed after I mean, Hunter's been a steady uptick.
Jeremy went from cutting a home run for a calendar
year to all of a sudden becomeing a terrific lead
off hitter for the Space paest Well, he hit the
scene like Gangbusters World Series MVP, a lovele bit of
a roller coaster ride. But he is definitely a scenting beautifully,
this stock is as high as possible. It absolutely is

(04:14):
really since the move to going to the legal spot. Yeah,
so your two guys are now being represented by the
guy that again the Astros have made moves with have
been able to get guys in, and that of course
would be Lance mccutters and the most important one of
them all, Josel Tuve. But Scott Boris has also had

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guys in Astros gear, namely the two most recent ones,
Garrett Cole and Alex Spragman and those guys went to
Scott Boris because they wanted to go get as much
money as possible because he's the higher gun. Yes, so
needless told say save us for gut feelings in an

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hour and a half. But when as soon as I
saw it, the first thing I thought of as well,
who is the shortstop of the future for the Astros
is that Bryce Matthews because an angle with Jeremy Paine here,
I get it. I understand now it's very natural. But
also he's under team control for a couple more years
that he is, and it's it's too simple to presume anything.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
But we do have to go off of history. Yes,
we do have.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
To go off of as you would say, a lot
the term you use a lot recency bias. Yes, and
the recency of the Astros is everybody that has been
a free agent that is looking to cash in for
the very first time, which Jeremy Payne and Hunter Brown
would both be doing as free agents have gone elsewhere.

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The Astros have had multiple opportunities, whether it's Springer, Correa, Cole, Bragman,
Charlie more No much smaller extent who else U s
Springer very very yeah, very first have all decided to
go elsewhere, So it would be foolish for me not

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to think and for Astro fans to think.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
That the Astros are gonna have to replace replace Jeremy
Payne now and Hunter Brown for that matter.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
First things first, Astros could have signed any of those
guys and still can't, but could have yes in yesteryear,
because any one of those guys you mentioned, Astros could
have had if the price was right. It's the owner
and that's okay, it's his philosophy, and it's also a
player too. The player can also get a deal from
the Astros and say that sounds good, I'll stay here.

(06:47):
Then that's why Jose al Tuova is here correct but signed,
and Christian Haavier gods deal. There are some deals that
have been signed by Astro players really early.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
In the game. Mm hmm. But yeah, play the player.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
For the player to say, I am gonna I only
have a you know, a finite number of years in
my career as a viable Major League Acid, I'm gonna
get as much money as possible.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
That makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
And for Jim Crane to say, hey, these long term
deals don't work out more often than not, and I
don't want to sign them.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
I get that as well.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
So Scott Boris isn't a non starter for any other
or the top organizations in baseball. It's really just for
the Houston Astros because of the stance that Jim Crane holds. Yeah,
and that's why I thought last year, while it was cute,
jose L Tuve going to bat for bragmant, poor guy
whose fool's gold, he really yeah, but he believed it.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
He did believe it. But they just don't care when
you got when you when you.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Go to Scott Boris, you are like, I've got to
get You're going to get me the most money. Now,
he hasn't had a terrific last couple of years, but
by large, Scott Boris is the most powerful baseball agent
in the history of baseball. I mean, look at the
number of amazing deals he's been able to strike. And

(08:14):
it what like Alex Bregman's going to the parhouse because
he's got forty million dollars each of the next three years.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
If he so chooses, and.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Now everybody doesn't love Scott Boris, that'd be teams, and
that'd also be players.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Jordan Montgomery says, healo, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
I mean that doesn't always mean he's going to do
it for you, because again, when you you take that
chance with Boris, he's gonna want you to hold out
to the very last second to get the best possible deal.
Before Bregman got this deal that he got from the
Red Sox at the eleventh hour, his market was extremely
underwhelming Detroit Houston, basically, yes, and it wasn't going to

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be anywhere near the aav Red Sox got desperate, swooped
in and gave him forty million dollars a year on
the shorter term deal. Right, So that was gonna be
an l for Scott Boris building up his market and
you know, saying all these fancy phrases and talking about
bees and win and sees or whatever he was.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Talking about with Alex Bregman.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
But you hire Scott Boris, that means generally you want
the most money possible and you're gonna go and try
to be in the market with the big dogs talking
about the Dodgers Yankees. So to me, it's not so
much about how dare Scott Boris? It's yeah, the player says,
I kind of know what I'm getting when I signed
with Scott Boris. He is going to tell me to

(09:25):
hold out to the very last second. He's gonna tell
me to explore other places unless Scott feels like the
Astros would go above and beyond what fair market value is.
And the Astros have shown absolutely no history I'm doing that.
I mean, they didn't overpay for All two, but now
the second contract for All two we put him into
into obviously late thirties. But the deal that Lance mccullor

(09:46):
signed many years ago wasn't overvalued. It was Hey, we
think you're pretty good, we think you got a nice future,
and we're gonna try to catch you now before you
start to make super cash.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
I feel like at the time it was a little
dicey just because of because the injuries.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
But if you but if he was able to go
down a path where he wasn't hurt all the time,
it would it was going to be a steal for
the Aster win.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Fortunately year old the dice and you cracked out on
that one.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Well yeah, and there's still a chance to cover. Yeah,
that's right. Men to cover to make some of this out.
When you you got a big losing session and you
come back the next day and you went a little back,
you still lost.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
They're trying they're on the rebound session.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Oh my god, on a Thursday night, I've lost five
hundred dollars playing blackjack. If I win two fifty that
on Friday, I feel like I'm gonna net win, which
it really isn't. Exactly, That's what the Astros are trying
to do with the Lesson Colors contract.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
It will recoup at the end of the back. You
don't want it.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
You don't want to sting as much as it did
when you went to bed on Thursday night. Exactly. That's
what they're doing. But Jeremy Penne is under control. They
have him this year, next year, and the year after. Yeah,
so he's a phrase twenty eight his aging.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
So in theory, if you're going to make this big move,
which I believe is a year too late, you're gonna
have to really put together a deal this offseason because
if you're down to a year Scott's Scott's Boris is like,
oh this is my wheelhouse, baby, I'm not letting you go.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm not letting you go.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
To spring training and listening to the Astros for a year,
We're gonna We're gonna play this last year out. Now
there is a there is two sides to this, and
all Scott's the second side of when we come back
because it isn't completely against It's not the Astros fault
per se. And I'll explain more in a minute. Ten
twelve is a time we've got got fillings at eleven thirty.

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Today we've got Joe a spot at twelve thirty, we
have nfl rewind with ROSSI coming up at one twenty
believe it or not, at one fifty.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
We're with you till two o'clock.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
I also wanted to get into whether or not the
Rockets could be done when it comes to filling out
the twenty twenty five twenty six roster.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
We'll get to that as well.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety seven
one three two one two five seven ninety ten thirteen.
This is Matt Tomashevil Ross and this is Sports Talk
seven nine. It is S eighteen on Sports Talk seven
ninety Matt Thomas Show with Ross Ross.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
How are you today? No? No, I, I just he
doesn't need to answer that because he just took a
bite of a taco, so we'll let him finish that,
all right.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
So my point on this on the Jeremy Pania and look,
we're certainly getting the we're putting this out there many
years in advance. This could all be for nothing. I
don't believe it to be accurate. I'm going off of history.
But let's say the Astros would have tried to lock
up Jeremy Pania before last season. Jeremy Pania in twenty

(12:39):
twenty four had an ops of seven oh one. That
is below average. His ops plus which is one hundred.
It means you're the average. You are just a good
old fashioned average player, right Rossie. That's he had a
ninety nine. The year before that he had a ninety five.
Jeremy Pania was an underperforming offensive player. Frankly in the

(13:00):
last two seasons now.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
He had a really nice rookie campaign.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Obviously, when you win the MVP of the World Series,
you had a spectacular postseason, which he did, okay, but
that'd have been super early in the game to buy
out all those years out. If the Astros would have
signed Jeremy Panna to do a long term extension. Before
the start of the twenty twenty four season or any
point during the twenty twenty four season, you guys have

(13:26):
been flipping out, What are the Astros doing? They wouldn't sign,
they wouldn't get bregnant long term, they wouldn't do a springer,
they wouldn't do career. But you're giving Jeremy Peni all
this money, are you kidding? So that's why the Astros
deserve a little bit of defense of this, because the
numbers did not dictate that his rise this year has
been significant. His OPS plus and again you can figure

(13:46):
out what the parameters on it. One hundred is considered average.
Last year he was ninety nine, so it was just
a tinge below average. This year is ops plus is
one forty four, which puts him in All Star Elite category.
His ops spatting is on baseball slugging his eight seventy
four because batting average is three twenty six.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
He draws walks. He's still a very good defensive player. Yachting, YadA, YadA.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I mean all the things that you would make you'd say,
you know what, man, the ascension is spectacular. But it
took a while. It took him three years after the
twenty twenty two season. So that's why the Astros in
some respects were in a Dan of w Dow Dana
vy Dodone situation, because if you'd have done it last year,
you'd have been like, what are you doing? The guy's
mid You do it this year, and maybe it's too late,

(14:32):
because then it's what he does. He says, I'm I
think I'm playing at my very best. I need to
go get the very best for representation, and I think
I'm gonna be able to continue to do this the
next couple of years. So when I do and I'm
able to test for agency, I want to have Scott
Boris on my side.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
And that's exactly what's happened.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, and that's also a situation where, yeah, this is
a very unique situation to where you are at twenty
seven years old in your fourth major league season having
this big of a breakout. It's pretty rare. It's not
very common. And so where Jamie Payne is, he's in
a unique position. It put the Astros unfortunately in a
unique position to where they didn't want to re sign him,

(15:10):
as you said, or maybe there were conversations, but they
probably didn't progress too far, and now he's got Scars
Scott Boris. He didn't even really have time to miss
the boat. The boat just took off, and the reality
is this two gang. He wasn't as old as George
Springer when he made his major league debut, but it
wasn't significantly different. I think George was twenty five. Payne

(15:31):
was twenty four, So he's going to be thirty when
he gets to crack that first super big contract. And again,
the puzzle pieces are kind of fitting into place. I'm
having my best season. I'm a couple of years away
from being a free.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Agent now again.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Still, he's got this season and two more after this,
so there is obviously time and the Astros could ultimately say,
you know what, we need to make this move because
it's important for us to have a cornerstone, shortstop leadoff guy.
I mean, he is the leadoff and will never unless
he goes on some horrific slump.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
He'll be that guy.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Also, don't get mad at me, Matt, but he's due
for a little aggression. If you look at things like XBA,
you look at batted ball luck. He's been kind of
lucky at the start of the season as well. Generally
those things tend to go down in the water. It's
I'm not going to get into it, but I will
just see that. I'm gonna tell you, I don't think
he's a three twenty six hitter. He's got a lot
of infield singles, but that's what he can do because

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of how speedy he is, So that will be there.
But that was also the case last year. In the
year before, he's still his XBA is two eighty six.
He's hitting three twenty six, and generally I just think
his his average will come down eventually. So we've kind
of presented the case on both sides of this. I
don't blame Jeremy. As I've told somebody this morning when

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I was headed to work, I was talking about this.
I said, you know, if I'm playing at my very
best and I've got Fregen, so I want to go
get the best representation possible, and not one but two
astros have done that. Knowing though, however, when you go
get Scott, he's going to he's not going to lean
into Do you like it in Houston? Well, of course

(17:08):
I do. Do you like playing with jose Al too?
But of course you do Do you like your home?
Do you like doing the commercials for rock Arenas Rondez?

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Of course you do.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
But you've You've got me, and I'm going to go
out and try to get to the best deal possible. Now,
Scott again has not bat at one thousand in the
last couple of years.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
But my guess is.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Alex pregnant at the end the day isn't overly upset
that now. He wanted a long term deal and he's
still might get it.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Now.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
This injury situation may hurt that. But even on a
short term player control contract, Alex Pregman is still getting
forty million dollars this year to play for the Boston
Red Sox and forty more million dollars next year if
he so chooses, and then if he so chooses that
it's another forty million dollars. Everybody's pretty good. He's not
doing so bad. He's he's I don't think Alex is

(17:53):
like man, I screwed up by Scott. Boris on my side.
I can't feed my kid whatever his kid's name is.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Two.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Now, yeah, she's the pregnant. No, no, she had to
shed the baby came out, yes, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
By the way.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Congratulations to uh Justin Verlander having their second child. Oh
really yes, good for him and her well and her well.
The all time win leaders, the most money, I think
the all time money leader are pitching wise. Yeah, and
two kids with Kate Upton. M two kids with Kate
Upton or hundreds of millions of dollars, you get one

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and one only.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
One hundreds of million dollars. That's true, That's right.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
I mean, not that it's not worth its white and
gold over there, but yeah, money, money, and really going
back to this and we're gonna steer it back in
the right direction here.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
That's my fault. This is this isn't about Jeremy being comfortable.
This is about Hunter.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
I wishould also put Hunter Brown on the same pasture.
This is about those two gentlemen going, man, we are pitching,
we're playing our best. We the best, and Scott Morris
is the best. He is the best agent right now
and probably has been for what the last twenty year.
I mean, the Hendrick's brothers were very popular twenty five
thirty years ago, but they're they're retired out of the business.

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So now it's you had to find the new number
one guy, it's Drew Rosenhaus and frankly it's it's Scott Boris, right, yeah,
I would say, so who's the best?

Speaker 2 (19:21):
He makes Lee Steinberg in there?

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Lee, got you.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Lee's Lee's only guy right now? I think of any
consequence is Pat Mahomes?

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, I just mean for all time? Oh yeah, all time?

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, I'm sure he's right now, Rich Paul, I guess
Rich Paul and touch sports with the NBA. That's right,
that's right. So what does I have a stupid question?
What does Scott moving make this move?

Speaker 5 (19:42):
Now?

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Why does Scott Borris they hate they help him with
arbitration later down the road, I mean, and the Astros
typically don't have arbitration issues. They did with one player
and he gone and he left because I don't forget
these things. But that wasn't under Dana Brown's watch, So
that's fair, you know. Now, Jim Crane was the owner

(20:04):
of the team at the time. Obviously, Still.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
I don't know if there's an expiration in a contract,
if an agreement that I can't I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
I'm just curious, and honestly I don't. And that's maybe
a question that maybe a Chandler or and O'Brian mctaggery capetually.
You know, if that's what we can ask them, that's
because we get the experts on this stage.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah. Yeah, So we'll have a mctager with us on Thursday,
and I think Chandler is with the boys on Friday
and during the A team.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
So that was how I spent my yesterday, was thinking
about how the Astros are going to have to in
theory possibly maybe even probably replace their future ace and
their future and their current spectacular performing leadoff man.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Are the Astros?

Speaker 5 (20:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:48):
I mean, do you just even if they don't trade them,
That's what I'm saying. In a couple of years, when
Jeremy Paine is at the end of his rope as
far as team control, where are the Astros? I mean,
jose L twov is gonna be like thirty eight, It
would be the last year Christian Walker's deal. I guess
they'll have some money to spend, but this pharmacist is
not fully stocked with a much of stuff. Well to

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what you said in your second and last statement sentence
is should give you pause for optimism. The Astros do
spend money. This is not a miserly baseball team because
they're not miserly. Uh, they will replenish the one thing
that has been consistent, and so far it's worked out.
I mean not so far, it's flat out worked out.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Is team friendly contracts, good compensation, not long term commitment.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
But they also do rather than playing. You don't want
to sign guys long term because you don't want to
pay for the old years. But then they pay guys
for the old years like Jose Bray and Christian Walker,
and that hasn't been working now. Yeah, the fringe, and
that's what I'm saying. There's a little bit more of
a dicey situation when you go to the frigent market thing, Oh,
we'll just go buy somebody else.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Well, you bought jose A. Bray and that didn't work out.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
You send it to Rafael Montero and that didn't work out,
And you bought Christian Walker and so far that has.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Been so far just a major dis turn it around.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Christian, come on all right, Uh, if you want to
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Should the Rockets be done with this offseason? A couple
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Yeah, not me. I mean I was gonna say you
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We gotta do something for our ten o'clockers. Okay, you
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We gotta we gotta get the think pat okay, like
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Speaker 2 (23:00):
Quite not? I have to write them early if we
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Speaker 6 (23:02):
It or not?

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Ten thirty four. I don't know if they didn't have
anybody there. That's true. I mean, you've been doing your
dreams recently. You can do that. That's time. People says
it tune out. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Nobody gave me a good answer to my dreams of yesterday.
Uh huh when you were driving the F one car, No,
I was. We landed in the middle of a bunch
of rolling hills. We all got against the curb and
to stand up, and then you won the super Bowl
with Joe Montana. That's not true, all right.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Daniel Lerner, Rockets beat reporter for The Chronicles, says the
Rockets is that her job now?

Speaker 2 (23:34):
It has been? Yeah, I know I was deciding. Yeah,
I know.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
She took over for Jonathan Fageah. I think she's gonna
do that until they say no more. I think it's
her job.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, okay, great. She says that the Rockets.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Maybe you trying to kick the tires and getting back
in the draft at this point Wednesday's draft party, which
I will be at, is it will that the Tota.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Center is.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Tickets going like hotcakes now they're only a dollar to
get in. You depend on basketball court and stuff. It's
really fun. I mean, it's gotta be an easy way
to have a good time with the arena, a little basketball.
But there are no draft hicks to be acquired at
this point. Maybe the Rockets are trying to get back.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
They run open tryouts at the draft.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, you know, maybe game the sixteen spot on the
fifteen out right now, I think so may it'd be
veteran minimum, right, that's not bad.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
I I don't think they're gonna swing for the fences
for a super megastar or even megastar, But I there's
a feeling. My guess is we'll have a wreck another
recognizable NBA player with the Rockets by the time they
get to training camp in October. Just my, that's a
little bit of an early feeling, a little bit of
a gun feeling.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Is it tuesday? Yeah, okay, we'll put up a gun feeling.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
L for me.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I didn't think the Rockets were gonna make a major move. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
The Durrant would be a major bbow. Would you see
the video? He's already out there making baskets. Oh yeah,
let's go. That's he can he's he can score till
he's fifty. He's he's six foot eleven with the wingspan
of a tear an actyl. He can score and doesn't
it body fat? No, Now, the achilles and the knees,

(25:06):
and the elbows and the shoulders, they all get older,
just like anybody else.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
That's fighting that mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
So there's just a genuine higher risk for a thirty
seven year old to get hurt. It's compared to a
twenty four year old. Yes, with all the with all
the wear and tear that Katie has gone through his body.
But players are playing deeper into their careers.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
They just are. Last year he.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Played eleven back to backs. How many does he play
this year? Lest I think it's I think it's point five?

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Right? Is the line? Either he does part of it,
most part.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Honestly, I think part of next year's jigsaw puzzle fitting
will be who sets out on what games and what
I I mean, you're gonna in theory. I don't know
if tar Resan's gonna play a full eighty two. I
can take you guarantee that Steven Adam's not gonna play
a full eighty two. And I found the rockets, I
wouldn't play. I wouldn't be challenging Kevin Durant to play
a fully eighty two every now and then they were
sitting Fred van Vliet out. But I was like he

(25:57):
had the but he gets the straight ankle injury or whatever. Right,
I mean, this is not a this one when you
added Kevin Durant, even when you still have the young
guys like a Jabari Smith and Tari Easton and a Mentoms,
and still this is no longer a baby team. This
is a veteran laden with guys growing up right before
his team. This is not a young and squad or
Oklahoma City fresh off their championship but still one of

(26:18):
the youngest teams in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Mm hm. So I thought they were the youngest. Maybe
they are, Maybe they are. That's not good. But and
and you know I got caught. You know, remember trying
to kill time yesterday.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yes, a lot of people on the for you, tab
uh oh, take it with a grain of sid will
aren't necessarily believing that Oklahoma City is a dynastic team.
I okay, okay, because when they when they have to
pay everyone, they'll break up when they they won't be

(26:57):
able to pay Chad holmrin Jalen wins and shake is Ildes, Alexander,
all the huge contracts that that's basically what happened when
it was hard in Durant and Westbrook. Somebody's gonna have
to go, I remember. But for next year, all those
guys are gonna be rostered.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
I'm really mixed about how I feel about Dynastic team.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
They are far and away. The new CBA is to
break up the Dynasties.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
You can't do what the Warriors were doing with Durant
and Curry and Klay Thompson and Draymond all on the
same team and just paying luxury tax out their ears.
You can't do that anymore. You get hard capped, So
they aren't going to be able to have that type
of super team. Parody's gonna be good for the long
term health of it. I'm not really I mean, I

(27:44):
guess what I'm thinking about Dynasty is I'm thinking about
the next two years. But okay, I think his dynasties
are built on three or more.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Again, I have to.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
I mean, Ched Honggren is still gonna be a rookie deal.
I don't know what the Jalen Williams. Let me give
you the argument as to why they're not a dynasty team.
Chut Holmgan's gonna miss more time probably, but as long
as he's healthy for the play This year he missed
like however many games and he broke his hip, he
broke his pelvis or whatever, and guess what he was

(28:11):
there in the playoff.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I'm gonna give you some more. Okay, uh.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Lou Dort's offensive skills continue to regress o. His three
point percentages went up this year. I watched him in
that He had one hail marrying Game seven that was incredible,
but there were some three pointers that were very painful
for him to shoot. Let's see this year he shot
last two years from three thirty nine. That's all he's

(28:37):
there for. You don't need lou Dort's not going to
be you know, any defense. He's gotta be sticking step
Mac Jimmy's he just gotta hit the wide open shot.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Is ax Caruso going to continue to be a thorn
on the side in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
He's getting a little older, but he's a good role player.
I think you're just trying to convince yourself, Matt, that's you.
You're coping right now, Coach. I'm saying I'm doing the copy.
I'm trying to talk to you to convince me if
I should be right about this or wrong about this.
Almost they're rightful, rightful, big time championship favorites next.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Year they are.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
But but and also I'll give you, I'll give you
the one thing. This could be the same thing to
be said for the Rockets or any team. They were
Holmegren's injuries, that was one, but generally speaking, they were
a pretty healthy squad over the course of the year.

Speaker 7 (29:22):
Right.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I don't remember missing Sga missing much time or Jayleen
Williams missing much time.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
But they're also the youngest team in the NBA, so
young players are going to be healthy. Matt, all right,
I'm screwed.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
You're really just trying to convince yourself that the Rockets
are making the finals, and I love it, I need them.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I'm just you know, well, because I mean, we talked
about this.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
If indeed Kevin Durant signs a two year extension after
this year, you get a three year window of NBA finals,
or it will be a bust of a trade, right,
I mean, I don't think it's pretty easy for people
to decide you're not bringing Kevin duran in here. And
by the way, one more thing about this, I don't
want to hear about how the Rockets twenty years ago
went for Charles and for Scottie Pippen and who else

(30:04):
the older guys down in the years.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, is there.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Somebody else that was in the mix that was an
older guy that Barkley and Pippen A well, you mean
Drexler was older, but that worked out. Yes, they want
a championship. This to me, hopefully is more obviously more
drug so than it is Scotty and Charles. But even
if though all those deals worked, you can't you can't
put the nineteen nineties Rockets Carol Dawson led general manager

(30:31):
team and ownership with last Alexander against what the Furtitos
and Raphaelist owner doing in twenty twenty five. I'll also
say that sports science is a lot different than it
was in nineteen ninety six when you made the Charles
Barkley trade. Also, who's working out in taking more care
of their body, Charles Barkley or Kevin Durant.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
We know the answer.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
So but also if you're Charles Barkley, you didn't take
care of your body and you still were able to
be one of the best rebounders and power forwards in NBAST.
I have more and Kevin durant As I mean, just
an all time freaking nature improves sports science, and he's
taking care of his body. He lives and breathes basketball.
This is is what he's basically made his life mission

(31:11):
as to just he's just a hooper man. Yeah, so
I'm feeling good. I understand the age thirty seven, it's
difficult to see and have a lot of faith in.
But I'm feeling good about it. I'm not feeling good,
I'm feeling great. I'm I'm going to be. You know,
when you have a calendar and you have to count
today today to a big like a big trip or

(31:32):
the schools out of the summer. I'm in October mode
already training camp. I don't particularly s a big calendar
on your fridge and you're marking off the days of
the marker.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yes, yeah, that's me right now. Okay, get that schedule,
look at it. Figure out.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Not me.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
But I told you Western Conference Finals four days a week,
and great, well you always you always pay that. I
just want you hear Matt. That's all well, I'll be
with you next week. I was gonna take some time up,
but I'm gonna. I'm decided to work with you anyway.
Even I'll be in Dallas. Bless you, Matt, all right
seven one. You're dedicated to your craft. Other's not so much.

(32:10):
But you I appreciate You're welcome. Seven one three two
one two five seven ninety seven one three two one
two five seven onety I have received one tweet from
about thirty people yesterday.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Would you like to know what that tweet is? I
would like to know, Matt.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
I'll tell you after I ten Diana, No, you better
an umpiring audit Twitter account has some terrible numbers from
last weekend, and we'll have that for you coming up
at the top of the hour. But I want to
defend the umpires a smidge and we'll do that, Tim
and just a smidge. You're the one just in ten minutes?

(32:47):
Still give me that. You're not talking about the C. B.
Buckner one, are you?

Speaker 8 (32:49):
No?

Speaker 1 (32:49):
No, no, no?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Do you see that one? I saw that one. CEB.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Buckner is the new Angel Hernandez. Ten minutes give me that.
So a lot of people send me, you know, like
non Florida Stories. And my friend Jones sent us something
and it's about the twentieth time someone sent it to him.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
It's been.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
So uh.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
A guy at the Galleria yesterday or well when it
was yesterday. What it was was supposedly running from the
police when he jumped from the second level of the
galleria onto the ice rink to further escape the people
chasing after him.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
He thought he was Jason Bourne the second.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Uh when he landed on the ice and I don't
even think it matters if it was ice or not.
He landed and broke both his legs. Yes, And there
is video of this man laying on an ice rink
with his legs broken. There's a shoplifter, yes, running from
Houston police in the galleria.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
It's a tough watch. Thank god. We need to see
his legs actually snap in hair. But they're just lying there.
Oh yeah, not me, No me either.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
I like how the person like skates up you. Okay, dude,
I don't know why you just do that little skating
stop turn. It just makes me laugh that they do
that right up to a guy with broken legs. All right,
I'm going to give you a chance to win some
serious empty bucks. Okay, I am fifty something years old.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Okay, you can say old you are. I am fifty
to fifty three? Bye, but I have thirty three Okay,
how many times in my fifty three year old life
have I gone ice skating? And I'll give you Jonathan,
you got a guess. I'll say once? You say once?
What do you say? Jonathan? You can also say once
if you'd like three times?

Speaker 5 (34:30):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (34:31):
One time? Congratulations? What do I win? Nothing? I'll give
you ten fun I'll give you ten thousands. Know what
I'm doing? You hold onto the rail? What about roller skating?

Speaker 3 (34:41):
The roller ring back in the day, back in the day,
of course, but it's been what sixth grade was in
eighty Yeah, it's been forty years.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, I'm good. Go listen to some disco. I canna
do it.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
A lot of the roller rings around here do like
adult Friday nights or whatever I told you about the day.
And yeah, the girl and I went to high school
with wants to have a little reunion party with us
of our class, and we had all like, yeah, yeah
he had. She that must have been out, Yeah we
had she sent you a winking emoji or what? No, no,
but she said on for Facebook. She said, Hey, let's

(35:17):
all get together with our class and kind of go
back the Let's go back to the eighties night and
we'll go to a roller rink and we'll get on
skates and we'll drink and we'll listen to music and
you know, and make out and stuff like that. We'll
hand out k need braces and back braces. Drink and
roller skate. That's not a good combination, you know what
I mean, relatively speaking. So I put an emoji of
a bunch of us and uh, none of moj I

(35:38):
found a guy a picture on gift of a guy
laying in a stretcher.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I was like, this is our selfie from it. People,
let's go. You got a lot of good reactions, A
lot of good reactions. That's great, which I live for.
So what the hell was this? I mean, I just
don't get it. You gotta take the l on the
shop lifting, Okay.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Look, I mean with the cameras everywhere are you? I mean,
how are you successfully shoplifting at the gallery and mall
in the first place. First of all, who's going to
the gallery to begin with a lot of people, I
haven't been in the gallery probably in the mall fifteen years. Really, yeah,
I'd say I've been there, I don't know, two or
three times in the last two or three years.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
I live close by it.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Every time I hear about the gallery of somebody's being
shot in the garage, well, first time, man, I haven't
been shootings in a while. Okay, two weeks. I mean,
you gotta remember, man, I grew up in greens Point.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
It's fine to me.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, you're kind of accustomed to it. Exactly, they're just
shooting in the mall. You're exactly what a real mall
is then, yeah, exactly. You just you just sit there
and you eat your Kniephas expressed, and then you hear
a couple of gunshots ring out, and you just killing
about your business.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
You know.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Let me tell you, I don't need to og myself,
but I'm an og Houstonian. I went to Westwood Mall
back in the day.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
I don't know what that is. That was the mall
on Bisonett in fifty nine. That doesn't even sound good.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
What about Sharpstown Mall all plenty of times? What about
the Northwest Mall right there in the Northwest Lot plenty
of times? Yeah, at the Folies had the big giant
arches on it.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah. I used to think that was like the fanciest
thing on the plane. I look at these big arches
are the Folies?

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (37:09):
I go to Woodlands very irregularly, but it usually is
a shopping It's like go eat one of their great
restaurants around there and then popping them off for a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Or go to the Apple Store.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Eh, I mean they got a shake shack in there.
This is what I go to the gallery for shakeshack
or to pick up if something I get. It's faster
to get in store pick up for like a Macy's
or a more Stroms. Well, you know a lot of
the professional sports teams fifteen twenty years ago would stay
at the Galleria area hotels, you know, the Resting Galleria. Yeah,
and now they've gone to somewhere. I used to go

(37:40):
to the Kona Grill for reverse happy hour, but it's
gone now. What is reverse happy hour? Yeah, you don't
know what reverse happy hour is? Is it during an
off time they charge you more money for a drink?

Speaker 5 (37:49):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Instead of it's late exactly, Instead of three to six,
it's like nine to twelve. So you're at the galleria
between nine and twelve. I mean I had been before.
What do you mean then they had like three dollars
sushi rolls. It was like two dollars sock bombs or
something like that. It was nice, slide you're here. It
was real nice your pregame at the old monamrill. I
don't think that ConA grill doesn't exist anymore, do they.

(38:12):
I don't know that one's gone. So yeah, the video
is his his limp legs are just lying there and
they're in probably three to four pieces.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Side of it's actual kind of funny, like him just
sitting there. I mean, it's hard for me.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
I'm not really gonna show a whole lot of empathy
for a shoplifter who is stupid. First of all, he's
he's a criminal. Second of all, he's stupid. Like usually
that's one of the same. Right, was how many people
can run into a mall? Now, I understand a grocery store,
I could even I could even buy a wal Mart

(38:47):
or a Target.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
But you're in a mall where there's even what's the
easiest way and out of the mall. There's no easy way.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Yeah, you have to go through a department store to
get out right, if he was taking a loaf of
bread to feed his family or something, it's a diferent situation.
Whatever you're taking in the gallery a mall. You can't
go to a creture place and go I need this
to feed my family, exactly So, unless he's at the
Great American Cookie Company in the in the food mart.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
I got it unpopular take for you. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
I don't like cookie cakes. I don't like them either.
Oh really, I think we're all on the same board.
I'll eat them, it's just not my preference. I'll put
them third place behind. I don't know our fistfid place cookies.
I don't think it tastes very fresh. That's the reason
why I'm with you. Wow, well this is probably we're
all going on the same page.

Speaker 7 (39:36):
Now.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
If you want to get me a great bait American
bookie rumpany, get me a freshly baked cookie, I'll eat
that with a glasses.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I can be enjoyed. But I feel like the cookie
cakes are you know they were made like a.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Seven forty five in the morning, didn't tast the one
that your teacher buys a day old or something, and
brings it at school or something, because I had one
on on Father's Day for they brought him from my father.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
It was pretty good, but it wasn't fresh. There was
no hot heat to but it was No. It's not
normally my favorite. No, but the all chocolate one was
pretty good. Okay, but I'd rather have a cookie or cake.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yes, give me a German chocolate cake for the wind
m see. I'm not a big coconut guy. Love coconut
all right. Uh, the Umpire auditor is out and it's
not pretty from last week. We'll give you details on
that momentarily seven to one to three, get the calls
right seven one three two one two five seven ninety
seven one three two one two five seven Nighty. We

(40:28):
got gut Feelings coming up at eleven thirty. This, we
got Joe Spot at twelve thirty. Don't go anywhere. We're
here till two o'clock here on Sports Talk seven ninety
Love it oh two On Sports Chalk seven Nintie, Matt
and Ross with you. We opened up with the news
of Jeremy Pana and his new representation. We'll get to
more of that coming up. We've got to gut fillings.
In a half an hour, we have some news on

(40:49):
us to why Kevin Durant did not want to go
to the Golden State Warriors. We'll tell you about why.
That is the news at noon Joe Spotta NFL rewind
and believe it or not.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
That's how we take care of the next three hours
here on Sports Talk seven ninety If you'd like to
join us seven one three two one two five seven
nine zero seven one three two one two five seven Honty.
There is a website or a Twitter account called umpire Auditor.
It's also got a TikTok, got one hundred and three
thousand followers, didn't follow anybody.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
But you know, it feels like to me, it's uh,
it's it's it's legit. I mean I don't see why.
I mean, they use video replay almost in every one
of their arguments there, so wex tweeted it out or retweeted,
and you know, WEX probably tweets I don't know, forty
to fifty times an hour, so sometimes there are some
interesting things and nuggets that he finds umpire Auditor on

(41:40):
Twitter says umpires missed one thousand and forty calls during
the week of June sixteenth.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Wow, okay, what if we could get all the right
stay with her? Go ahead? One forty whoo and they
found the ten worst. And again this this is their
own determination of the ten worst, which, man, if you
if you're searching through one thousand and forty miss calls
and those are the ten, that's that's that's some real
intelligence right there. Uh well, they.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Probably just have to go through like the pitch data
they can probably probably didn't take them that long on yeah,
point being is this that still takes a lot of work.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
You and I don't have time for that or don't
want two.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
So these ten, I would say, I looked at the ten,
probably eight of them are absolutely horrendous, shouldn't be there.
Two were I think, being a little nitpicky, But the
point taking the eight that I thought were atrociously missed
were really really bad misses. And if we're to believe

(42:40):
what Umpire auditor says, I could see a thousand and
forty calls being missed in a week.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
I mean, there's what there's.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Fourteen games a day typically sometimes on a Thursday minute
or Monday they meant me as many, but Friday, Satday
and Sunday. If there's fifteen games a day, that's forty five. Yes, yeah,
I mean one thousand and sixty doesn't completely shock me.
Now they're going exclusively off of the box that now

(43:09):
every television camera has. Now we've already discussed this multiple times. Yes,
the box has certainly may elevated everybody's fear right, Yes,
And a lot of those times the TV I don't
know what umpire auditor is doing, but I know i'm scorecards.
They go off the MLB data, which is more accurate
as far as a strike zone. A lot of these
TV boxes can be off a little bit. That's what
I'm saying. The calls that they said were the worst

(43:33):
of the week, there were a couple that are, like,
I think you're just being a little nitpicky on this,
But it doesn't dispute the point that we are seeing
more and more erroneous calls made. We're seeing more umpires
being held to a higher standard, and you know, we're
also seeing rawson. This is really interesting to me. We're
seeing more television broadcasters really taken shot to these guys.

(43:58):
I would agree with that, and I will say this,
and I'm only speaking to my profession and my second job.
I try ROSSI and you know you would tell me
if I do it too much.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I try not to.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Crush referees when I'm calling games because I think it's
first of all, it's low hanging fruit. Second of all,
it's the hardest sports to officiate, and third the human element.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
I mean, it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
And I wish there was more instant replayer fixed things.
I've fallen on that sort of many many times. I
continue to fall on it. Continue to give me more
instant replay. But I have heard, and you know, you
get on the MLB network that sometimes they go from
game to game to game to game. And then if
you watch the f S one games or you watch
the ash, there are a lot of television folks that

(44:47):
are really roasting these umpires. And I'm frankly surprised at
this point that the umpires have not gone to the
commissioner and said, hey, go put your local TV broadcast on.
We're getting hammered on this. We ain't perfect, the Mpire's
never said they are. But the numbers of mistakes, and
if this indeed is accurate, of one thousand and sixty

(45:07):
calls missed, that's an ugly, ugly storyline for the Umpires Union.
I mean, I've just been saying this for years, so
we're gonna get it by next year. Right, challenge is
a challenge system, it should be fullybs. You just set
one thousand missed calls of a week, and let's say

(45:28):
that number is high. Let's say that that this umpiring
auditor Web's Twitter account is taking umbrage or going exclusively
off the box, where maybe the other one umpire auditor
is maybe it's eight to fifty, but that's still eight
hudred and fifty calls is missed.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
That's that's that's way too many. Yep, it's way way
too many. And again I don't know.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
I mean, I guess I'm a broken record or whatever,
but I mean I always bring this up to you.
In nineteen ninety four, were they missing a thousand calls
a week?

Speaker 2 (46:00):
I think they were missing more. You think it was less.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
I'm throwing it out there.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
So by data that we had when I was a
kid watching my bloved Astros lose the Mets in the
National Championship sides, it was worse.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
It was worse.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Back in the day the umpires are actually better than
they ever been going by like the pitch FX. I
can't remember when that started, like in the early two
thousands or something like that. Yeah, I think two thousand
and eight maybe it started. The umpires are getting more
and more, right, they're actually getting better, but they're still
missing around ten percent of the calls on average. So

(46:38):
I mean, it's just it's too much. And so let's
put it perspective compared to an NFL game. How many
calls are made in an NFL game that are missed
compared to the NBA.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
It's more arbitrary. What is past interference?

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Right?

Speaker 3 (46:51):
This is one of the reasons the umpires are under
the most fire is because it's very clear, black and white.
It's either touches the strike zone or it doesn't. With
an NBA, you know, we'll watch ten slow motion replays
and be like, oh, I don't know if that was
an incidental contact or was that a you know, there's
a lot more gray area. There's no gray area with
balls and strikes. That's another that is unfortunate thing for

(47:12):
the umpires. Why they do come under so much scrutiny,
and we have the technology to pinpoint the strike zone
where we don't have that in other sports, like what
is a rough in the pass or how much contact
you know, how many pounds per square inch of pressure
was put on Pat Mahomes. We don't know, but let
me ask you this, and I if we could get

(47:34):
twenty five calls as compared to the worst, there's gonna
be some that are going to hit the edges and
in the heat of the moment where they're positioned. If
the hit edges, I mean it is the strike zone
too small's But that's not the question.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
The question is can we get every everyone right?

Speaker 3 (47:51):
And the answer is yet regardless of whether the strike
zone is bigger or smaller.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
And the system is going to be put in place,
I am hopeful that will go.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
We'll go to the Challenge for a couple of years,
everything will be installed, it won't cost any extra money,
and then you go to full abs.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
That's what I want to happen.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Well, the number one way you're gonna get that done,
and you know the answer this and you don't want
to hear it is the players have to buy into it.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
And the players at this point.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
I think an athletic poll it was sixty percent of
the players don't want it, forty percent do so, not
that you'd ever expect a hundred percent of anything, but
they're gonna have to get a higher percentage than that.
I'd be curious the breakdown of pitchers and position players.
I actually meant to delve into that, but I hadn't.
But I think more pitchers don't want it than batters.

(48:39):
But see, like we even interviewed Alex Bregman a couple
of years ago. We were talking about it, and he
were stunned by that. He was like, no, I want
I like the human element. You guys don't.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
And then I'm like, you sit there screaming at umpires
on half your plate appearance is about bad calls that
are made. It doesn't seem like you like the That's
the thing too.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
It's crazy these players all say like the human element
and then they're she went out umpires.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Maybe they just like to do that.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
I don't know, And I don't know how much longer
it would take because baseball is trying to shorten the games?
Is it a millisecond? Can they just get a little uh,
you know, I never made it to the now. They
don't even do the full ABS games anymore, right, they
were doing it like Mondays and Wednesdays, Tuesdays and Thursdays.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Whatever. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
I don't know if if we got rid of the box,
would that create less resentment?

Speaker 5 (49:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:33):
I don't, because I'm telling you, it's so hard to
judge about that box. I was watching the Astros Angels.
What did I work on deck on Friday night and
work the Astros game, and Todd Kallis and Jeff were
I mean, we're roasting the guy. And I'm thinking, I
wonder if it's just because they are only seeing it
from the Astros perspective, or is it bad on both sides?
And they didn't show a lot of replays of Angel

(49:53):
pictures getting calls or not getting calls, so you know,
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
It's tiresome.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
And every time I put a game on, I'm hearing
TV announcers, not just the Astros, but all the different
announcers are going, god this. And I don't think they're
doing it because they're running on of material for their
game broadcast. They're doing it because they're legitimately pissed that
their team in what they're calling their games for are
getting calls wrong. But I mean, go listen to anything
that you would happen to see and you are hearing exasperated,

(50:24):
angry television broadcast crews and it gets kind of honestly,
to me, it gets kind of tiresome. It's like the
boy cry Wolf over and over and over again. I'm
with you, I'm tired, and I understand we're complaining about
it in Major League Baseball is very slow on the

(50:46):
uptick on this to make this happen. That's why I
feel like there's a part of me that thinks that
maybe they're getting tired of it, or we may get
some director from Major League Baseball telling the TV broadcasters
enough's enough.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
They're doing the best they can.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
If everybody can remove we wouldn't talk about it as
much as everybody remove the box. But I'm even at
the games and you know, we uh and people are
asking and I'm looking it up on my MLB app
And even when we sit there in press areas, like
when we do during playoff games, people will turn around
and look at us because they know we have laptops
and we're looking it up.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
They're like, Hey, was that all?

Speaker 5 (51:17):
Was that?

Speaker 2 (51:17):
A strike.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
Was that?

Speaker 1 (51:18):
What was that?

Speaker 2 (51:19):
I was like, and then I'll give my thumbs up.
If it was like a correct call.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
So we're providing a service, then yeah, exactly I should
start charging. But yeah, it's it's talked about in the
middle of games and it's and frankly to me, it's
ruining the enjoyment of just sitting back and watching it.
I should just not care, because here's the thing, and
I want you not to care when we're at that,
when you're at the game trying to enjoy the game.
The bottom line is is that if they're at some

(51:45):
point you've said enough enough, Like it's about it's about
workman line conditions. If you don't like something at your office,
you can complain about it, complain about it, and at
a certain pint, they're going to.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Tell you enough. Either you don't like. If you don't
like it, don't play it, don't be a part of it.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
If there was something that you could get in your
life that was getting in that was incorrect eight ten
to eleven percent of the time, I'm not arguing with it,
and you could get it right. Well, it's basically the
flip of a switch with Major League Baseball. They can
install these whatever they're gonna to install. If they have
it in minor league parks, they hey install it a meeting.
I loved watching spring training this year when guys were challenging,

(52:20):
and I loved it when the Tampa Bay hitter put
his hat on his head and wanted to challenge during
a regular because he's a.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Game and got his ass talls. That was pretty funny.
Taylor Walls or whatever it knows.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
All right, eleven fourteen on Sports Talk seven ninety seven
to one to three, two one two five, seven ninety.
If you want to jump in, we've got gut feelings
coming up at the bottom of the hour seven to one,
three two one two five seven ninety. We have gut
feelings coming up at the bottom of the hour to
make our predictions.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
I lost because I thought the Astros were going to
finish with just two losses on the road ship they
lost three.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
It is what it is.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Still have a five, four and a half game lead
because the Mariners did win yesterday, And my god, I mean,
how many more home runs Calorally gonna hit here in
the next couple of weeks? What does he have to
thirty two or thirty yesterday. He's a beast.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Yeah, MVP or Aaron Judge. That's what the Twitter streets
you're fighting about right now, by.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
The way, real quick and I'll get we'll get to
Empire talks about Twitter streets. So I went on Phoenix
radio yesterday, you did, and we ever talked about the
Kevin Durant trade, and they're like, be ready for the
Kevin Durant truthers.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
I'm like, what you're talking about it because they are intense.
So what the Kevin Durant fans?

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Yeah, oh okay, which I thought to myself was kind
of weird because he is one of the greatest players
of all time.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
So you're gonna probably if he's gonna have a legion
of fans. Yeah said, Oh, we've been in there with
Albrn SHINGOONI I told him, I said, the shing Gun
truthers are they're out there too.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
That's an entire country. You know who the worst was
of all time basketball or anything sport? Houston Rocket, Oh
gotta be uh Jeremy Lynn. Jeremy Lynn fans, Oh my god,
they thought he was prime Kobe and Michael Jordan and

(54:17):
I don't even.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Holy smokes.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
I mean, if Kevin Durant truthers want to come on
and follow us on Twitter, I'm all for that.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
I'm I'm here for you with.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Like Gary Payton defense. That's what they thought Jerry Lynn was.
It was insane, the Jerry Mulynn fans. Thankfully Twitter wasn't
as popular back then. But yeah, the opryching goonyacs, they're
pretty wild. They're the Jalen Green truthers as well. Right,
so we got rid of them. I mean, what's wrong
with being a Kevin Durant t ruther? Who is who's

(54:49):
fighting with Kevin Durant truthers? I mean, I guess they're
My guest is the anti Kevin Durant notion would be
he's old and gets his injury team hoped, and he's
not very friendly and he like on Twitter ring chaser. Right, Okay,
well I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be fighting with
any Kevin Durant fans. You know what, if he's ring

(55:10):
chasing the latter or third of his career, he ain't
the last one. Well, he was ring chasing this prime,
but he also was the best player on that team.
That's why I have to put Kevin Durant ahead of
Steph Curry all time?

Speaker 5 (55:22):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, but that's because you're a Texas honk Oh, I'm
sorry who won the finals MVP those two series.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
You know, that's the thing we've always argued about. Is
you got is that Steph Curry is the greatest shooter
of all time?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yes? But does that being that? Now? Again, basketball is shooting.
So this is where he had that argument.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
If basketball is about shooting, how do you not put
Steph curR in your all time top ten? Because it's
also about defense. All the players in my top ten
are two way players. That's why I'm putting hockey out. Yeah,
he's French. We'd have to go through the list. Yeah,
we've done that before. Well, we got time this summer,
plenty of time. Actually, let's talk to Daniel on seven

(56:03):
eleven two. Daniel, good morning.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
And how's it going.

Speaker 7 (56:07):
I just wanted to talk more about the umpire discussion.

Speaker 9 (56:11):
Yeah, have to say I disagree.

Speaker 7 (56:13):
You know, in football or basketball you have you know,
people drawing fouls or drawing PI and it's you know,
the players kind of tricking the the umpires.

Speaker 9 (56:23):
I guess the referees.

Speaker 7 (56:24):
Right, baseball, I think having the virtual umpire, whatever you
want to call it, takes a lot away from the catcher.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Right.

Speaker 7 (56:32):
You had Maldy really good at framing pitches. You know,
catchers did frame pitches, did essentially trick the umpire.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
I feel like having the.

Speaker 7 (56:41):
Virtual umpire is going to change the game a lot
more than just balls and strikes. You know how hitters
set up to you know, to the pitch, and how catchers.
Do I even care about framing pitches anymore?

Speaker 2 (56:55):
No, you don't.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
I don't want NBA players tricking referee. I don't want
Pat Mahomes flapping flopping around in a in a football
game and trying to get calls. So why do I
want a catcher that's trying to trick everybody too?

Speaker 7 (57:10):
Right?

Speaker 9 (57:10):
I mean that it's a skill, it's a skill, and yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
It's a skill.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Shake Gill, just Alexanders. What he does is a skill.
What James Harden has done for a skill. That doesn't
mean it's good or it needs to be. It's a
necessary part of the game. I I don't, Daniel. I
don't like framing. It pisses me off that that a
catcher can fool an umpire. I I mean, I mean
when it goes the other way sometimes a catcher like
it was happening this weekend Victor Karttini was he was
kind of coming up to the ball late and or

(57:35):
or you know, getting crossed up or whatever, and the
strike wasn't being called a strike.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
So it also bad framing can cost you pitches.

Speaker 7 (57:43):
Right, I mean, and I don't know the technology behind it,
and Kevin washed it in minor leagues at all, but
you know, adjusting the strike zone for all two day
versus you're done, and like we're just trusting a technology.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Well that's I did I do that? That absolutely?

Speaker 3 (57:58):
That could be a a time issue. I don't know
how much of an issue can be. My guess is
the technology. And Daniel, thank you for the phone call
and good counterpoints. That was the original point I brought
up to you five years ago we first Tart talking
about it, is that you know you're gonna how much
time will be to adjust. My thought is if they
ever go to this on a full time basis what

(58:19):
I don't believe it ever will, They'll have to make
sure it's a seamless transition. Yeah, they can do it
in seconds. It's I'm not worried about that. They're not
gonna have the same strike zone for Aaron Judge and
Jose I'll doube.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Oh well. My point is is go back and look
at the spring training of games.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
If you have any extra time, and did anybody necessarily go,
my god, this was a hot mess.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
That strike zone. I didn't hear it. I didn't see
a single complain of oh the computer got it wrong.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
I think there is a margin for error. But whatever
it is, it ain't eleven percent of the calls. But
if you do something ninety percent right and anything in life,
aren't you happy with that? I know you're gonna say,
but if you get a hundred.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Right, I ask your heart surgeon if he does it
ninety percent right, if that's okay, okay, I'm not going
to put strike calls in hard surgeons. Want't we go this?
Ninety percent planes land properly?

Speaker 5 (59:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:12):
How about that? Don't you getting way over the top
of that?

Speaker 5 (59:16):
Sorry, you're wrong.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
So ninety percent is it?

Speaker 5 (59:18):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (59:20):
I think it? Uh something?

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Why you don't cheat on her ninety percent of the
time you go out? Is she if she's okay with
that my wife cooks well ninety percent of the time.
Ten percent is a hot mess.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Well, you'd like it to be a little bit better.
Yesterday was hundred Yesterday was not one of those days.
But don't tell her that I get home ninety percent
of the time when I drive home from work. That's
not good. So you're not gonna accept ninety percent anything.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Not when one hundred percent is sitting there right in
front of you. All right, So the last time I'm
gonna bring this up before we get to gut feelings.
If it's there, then why aren't we doing it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
So if you get the union, the umpire's union, pretend
you're right, manfor give me the answer, give me what
you think he's thinkings of all, he's gonna give the
little stupid low hanging for a way, like the human element.
This is a baseball tradition, this is the way we've
done it for years. But really, in the reality is
you you have to deal with the umpire's Union. You
have to deal with the players, and a lot of
the players are resistant to this. I think you have

(01:00:24):
to to get the pitchers on board with this. You're
gonna have to widen the strike zone a little bit.
I don't know if that's a quarter inch or I
don't know how many centimeters or millimeters or whatever it's
gonna take. But you're gonna need a slightly bigger strike zone,
and you're gonna have to get the Umpire's Union on
board or you're just gonna have to force them out.
Because I understand, you spent your whole life being one

(01:00:45):
of the best in baseball at balls and strikes. That's
one of the reasons you get up to the major leagues,
and then you become unionized and you're safe for life,
all part of it because of how great you are
calling balls and strikes, and they're taking that skill away
from you. So I understand where the Umpire's Union is
coming from, but we have to understand the overall health
of the game. Like you said, Matt, it's taking over broadcasts.
It's we're talking about we're spending a we're talking a

(01:01:06):
lot of time on these talk shows talking about it,
and to me, it's a it's a black eye on
the game. Yeah, and that's I'm confused why major League
Baseball is not told it's local broadcasters.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Enough's enough. Maybe maybe maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Maybe the continued outcry of local TV broadcasters will because
I don't know if the national guys are doing it.
I mean I don't I don't watch Sunday Night Game
of the Weeks. I don't know if they're doing a
whole lot of that. Yeah, but the local guys certainly are.
Now I'm talking about just Houston. I'm talking about every
game that you watch, you watch Colorado broadcasts or a
Yankees broadcast. It's the easy conversation piece, that's for sure.
All Right, we are looking for some gut feelings some

(01:01:41):
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Speaker 6 (01:01:54):
At that tumm it, yo, they got.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
A good dealer. This is there. That's feeling on the
Matt Thomas Show.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
All right, this is where we make our sports predictions.
You get a half fire every week to kind of
claim what's going to happen in the world of sports.
If you win and you are right about it, you
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unless it's completely preposterous, we'll let you forget about it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
We have one simple rule. You call seven one three, two,
one two five seven. Id't give us as many sports
predictions as you'd like, We'll give you ours. And I've
already got word that Brad uh from Miami, Brad in
Houston now is on the line. And you know the
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Please you'll get you get to call in and get

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of Brad getting his take in before the top of
the end. Just last week he said the Rockets are
not getting drink all right. So if you don't want
to hear from Brad, we got to hear from you,
very simple. Seven one three two one two five seven
hoeighty more of you means loss of bread. Seven one three,

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two one two five seven. On how did we do
last week?

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Matt, you said the Astros would win five out of
six left on their road trip. Not true. They went
four and two. That's fine, I mean it's close. No,
he gave it the old college try I did.

Speaker 10 (01:03:16):
I did?

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
You also said Kevin Durant would be traded by Friday,
and it was Sunday, so I was off by two days.
It was the same weekend. It's the same weekend. Yeah,
it's the same weekend, Matt. Okay, I should have said
pre draft, that's what I should have said. Well, that
was kind of That's what I said, though, what traded
before close to the draft? Whoa?

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
You also said the Rockets were going to make a
significant trade. You're right, so I said, you're on both
sides of ass No, I didn't. I said you would
be traded. I didn't say where, So that's right. But
also ago I said he would be traded to the Rocket,
I said he wouldn't be the Rockets.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
I'd say.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
I said that they were going to make a significant
role player deal, kind of like true Holiday going to
the Trailblazers thirty five now. But anyways, okay, I was
thinking like Derek White or something like that. But anyways, AnyWho,
so I was wrong on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Also last week I said Southwest will go back to
free check bags.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
That's I wouldn't say in play right now. Maybe in
a couple of years. Yeah, unless the revenues show that
they're the right decision, then you're gonna be a loss
on that. I could be could be I get good
feelings wrong every week, Matt as do I are giving
you two wrong ones?

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
I also said, no chance, no way know how Travis
Hunter plays a full season of both sides of the football.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Now, how do we declare that as at least playing
both sides of twelve games?

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Yeah, twelve games, seventy five percent of the snaps both sides.
I feel like you're gonna that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
I also said he won't even do it for more
than a game as far as being in more of
a two way player playing most of the STAPs. But anyways, okay,
I said, Durant trade will happened close to the draft.
That's that was my last one. And then Jonathan Allen,
poor Pacers. You lose so close yet so far away.
That was a really bad way to make. I mean,

(01:05:01):
if Haliburton was healthy, you'd have a shot, but you
had Pacers and seven. That unfortunately is an l I
had Oklahoma City in five. But did I gut feeling
that or just put that gut feeling that I said no,
I said okay, see five. Originally I said okay see
in five, and then they got pushed to six. And
then you gotta push the seven. Kudos Indiana for making
it a series.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
I mean it was great. The ratings were good.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Apparently it was the highest rated basketball game since twenty sixteen,
even with an achilles snap in the first quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Yeah, and I think Game sevens are sexy.

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
So good for the NBA they were able to use that.
Great for them. All Right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
The Rockets will try to get into the draft Wednesday,
but will not be successful. Okay, They're gonna try to
buy a second round or what. I think you can
do that pretty easily, right, yes, yeah, now, no, do
I want it to do? You know what? I'm gonna
change that. They don't have any second rounds loft because
they give them all to Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
The Rockets.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
No, the Rockets will not have a at the end
of the day, will not have a pick of this
Wednesday's draft.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Okay, the party. They may they may acquire somebody for
the future, like a future second round in something, but
I don't. I think at the end of the day
there will be no.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Introduction of any Rocket player except Kevin Durant on July
the sixth, or get thereabouts. All right, just a gun,
I got a long tin gut for you. Please, Rockets
are making the Western Finals. Promise it's my gut feeling.
I can't but gut feeling is not a promise. Oh oh,
I don't wanna do.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Last year. I did it in late May. Yes, I'm
doing it in late June, putting my name on it.
Let's eff and go putting your name on it. The
Astros are your American League West champions. I don't even
want to write this down.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
I don't even want to write down because if you're wrong,
I don't even want to call you on it, because
I'm gonna be so sad.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
All's gonna keep it on the gut feeling, all right,
I think you're right.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
The only thing that hurts me about this is will
this starting pitchers, group of no names, relatively speaking, continue
to keep you in the last run?

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Ryan Gosta got the win yesterday. Six innings, five runs
A Win's a winds of winds that you are heading on, Gusto, Yes,
he is.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
Oh my.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
Hold on, see, I'm trying to turn and learn you
a little something, Jonathan. We gotta be honest in this business.
Six innings of five and runs is not a call.
Is not what they call a quality start.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
That's bad.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
I'm surprised you're able to watch the game drinking a
large glass of hany see, here we go, Ryan Gusto,
we appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Six innings, five and runs is not a good start.
I hope you're listening. And he's not a fan man,
Well he knows, well, unless he's delusion only he knows
six innings, five and and he's not good. And guests,
will we trust? All right for the first sable future. Yeah,
you keep trusting stripe thrower.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
He does throw strikes. It was efficient, he still was
somehow we gave up five runs in six innies. He
only threw like seventy nine. The heart of the play.
They're hitting them exactly, prove it. In fact, I got
the Astros. They're your American League West champions. All right,
all right, that's fine, and Joel spot I joined the
twelve thirty. By the way, all right, what else? Anything
else for you boys? Jonathan you crowed over there. I

(01:08:34):
got one for the Astros. I'm feeling kind of lucky. Okay,
they win the series versus Philadelphia. Okay, well it's a
tough week, by the way, Yeah, we should make predictions.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
They win it again. With the Cubs.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
Okay, we're just gonna end up dropping a game for Colorado.
I don't know why we do it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
We just don't. Oh look, what are you going that
far in advance of the schedule for?

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Because I want to make this. I want to make that.
I lost my paces. I gotta go back to the longman.
And then we take two three out of the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
That's all. That's all. That's all.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
End the next week, man, I got, I got one
for this weekend. Okay, Kyle Tucker will have three or
less hits in the three game series. Okay, well, I
mean his reunion tour. Sure back in town. Three or
less hits for Kyle Tucker in the three game series? Okay,

(01:09:27):
what else you got? I will say, over three hits
for Kyle Tucker. Oh my god, you're fading MT. It's terrible,
just kidding. Wait on three, let's see he's gonna get
like fifteen abs. Yeah, i't over three, Okay, I'll just
say over yeah, over three hits for Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
What a fade? All right, let's go to the phones.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
In terms of longest wait, seven one three, two one
two five seven out He's seven one three, two, one
two five seven, outing, and once again remind her the
more people that call in yes, the less time that
Brian has to get his gut feelings in. So far
there are three people in front. We could take three
more in front of them. Let's go to Brian on
seven Ony, Brian, what's in your gut this week?

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Well, hey, guys, anything to take Brad out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 11 (01:10:15):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna say, guys, we're gonna go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Uh oh my gosh, it's our phones line too, for sure.
But Kevin Durant, I say, we do win the NBA
Finals last year? Oh right? That yeah, like a lot.

Speaker 12 (01:10:32):
Hey, here's the biggest one long summer tonight, and they're
gonna be salty guaranteed.

Speaker 5 (01:10:37):
I love you, babe.

Speaker 9 (01:10:38):
Pork chops that definitely got filling up as well.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Okay, I'm sorry, Brian, are something pork chops? I think
he's I think he's geting. He's eating shaking bake. He's
eating shaking baked with pork chops.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Loves shaking bake.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
By the way, when's the last time you eat shaking
balls instead of his wife's port chops? And he said,
like sorry. Oh yeah, that line has been sounding like
the people taking a helium balloon. And then I think
it's been too Yeah, it's it's our phones are messed up.
I've got a gut feeling our phone system suck. That's

(01:11:12):
not a good feeling. That's a garen damn t all right,
love and forty three Gary Roger and then maybe Brad
More Come on, you guys can be strong seven one
three two one two five seven ninety seven one three
two one two five seven up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Back on the phones we go. Let's talk to Johnny
on seven eight Johnny, what's in your gut?

Speaker 9 (01:11:34):
Good? Thank by July for up next Friday. That the
good prediction and all of baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Book, best record.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
In all of baseball. I think we're thanks Johnny. This
first trace to me boy any m because they sound
so clear. Well, yeah, it's not your fault.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Hi, Gary, Hey, can you hear me?

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (01:12:11):
Good?

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (01:12:12):
My gut feeling is so simple. It's just it's really simple.
The Astros is what is it? A six game homestand.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Yes, three are Philadelphie and three with the Cubs. Okay,
they're gonna split it.

Speaker 8 (01:12:23):
It's gonna be three and three, and if somewhere or
another they get that one extra win at four and two,
it'll be a victorious old stand.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
So that's my guts, that's what my gut tells me.
All Right, there you go. Thanks Gary for the phone call.
Appreciate you. We're one for our last five month calls
that don't have as not accurate seven one three.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
How come Brad's line is gonna work? I just know
it's gonna be gone. It's a terrible it's gonna be
crystal clear. Yeah, maybe Brad's the one that's just doing
all those. Let's talk to Brian on seven ninety. Brian,
what's in your gut?

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
This week?

Speaker 5 (01:12:59):
This week car?

Speaker 9 (01:13:04):
Last weekend? Running in Atlanta this weekend? There and a
lot of cars.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Try callback h Roger, what's in your gut?

Speaker 10 (01:13:28):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (01:13:29):
Rockets, I don't think they're done dealing it.

Speaker 9 (01:13:32):
Next involved camp were somehow.

Speaker 11 (01:13:35):
Way of fashions going to be can't trade will? I
thought Drew Holliday was given away to the to the
Blazers for a while, and uh, my last gut through
it was Ryan Gusto and nothing, four innings, three hit
ball and then he ended up giving two more runs away,
but he went I was I was calling five five

(01:13:55):
innings with no hit ball.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
But oh well that was all right, got thank you
very much. Get all that ross last time. The IT
guys wanted all this information. So I'm trying to write
this down. You want to just send him an air
check of this? Yeah, I have to.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
And that's not even that. Yeah, it's not even air
you have to. It's a whole I saw these hoops
we have to jump throughcause they don't want to work
on it. Quite frankly, I'm just gonna say it. Yeah,
they don't want to deal with it. They don't want
to deal with it. I've made a bunch of trouble
tickets and it's not getting done. I'm gonna snip this
part out of the air check though. Appreciate you guys,
thanks for all your hard work.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
You include that part, aren't you. Yeah, yeah, I'll leave
that part.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
I'm writing down the time, I'm writing down the studio
h phones, and I'm sending an air check old lines.
It was line that was line two four, I think
two four, five and six.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
They want the lines, they want the studio, they want
the times, they want the air checks.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
I'm giving it all to them today. So let's try
because Brian's back on t deep breaths.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
You know, we've not heard from it a long time.
Our buddy James and garden Oaks. James, how the hell
are you.

Speaker 10 (01:15:12):
I'm doing fine, fellas, I'm doing fine. I'm glad I
have an opportunity to chime in today, and I got
some news for you. First of all, the Astros advanced
scouting on other teams is just fabulous, and there's no
way there's the Astros are not going to continue. They'll
they'll win two out of three against both teams because
the Phillies are a bunch of frauds and the Cubs

(01:15:32):
they're a nice little story, but they're still not equipped
to win a championship. That other championship they one years ago,
that was a fluke. Okay, Now I want to say
something about about the baseball. You know, the this is
some of it's gonna be a throwback because what what
went down back in ninety some of ninety eight save baseball,
But this is going to revive baseball to another level.

(01:15:55):
That that thing between mister Carl Rowling of the Mariners
and Joey everybody knows about. Even if they hate him.
It's going to be a renewal for home run you know. Uh,
slug fest is gonna go all the way to the
last day and both of them might might get at
least sixty five homers close to seventy and threatened that

(01:16:16):
other punk Barry Bonds, the one that's got that fraud
of a home run title. But anyway, that's just my
takee fellas, And thank you for taking my call, Governor Thomas.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
And uh, mister mister Ross over there. Yes, I have
a great day, fellas, in a great weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
Thank you James, Governor Thomas Basine you at the backup
and call you the backup. That was Frank that called
you the back guy. Might who's who's mister Rawlings? Mister
and called you mister Ross. No, he's talking about cal Rawley.
I mean, we got to know it's cal Raley right

(01:16:51):
as in Durham. Yes, okay, we got down the two left.
Before we get to our buddy, Brad, let's talk to
Brian on seven ninety. Brian, good morning too.

Speaker 9 (01:17:05):
He's gonna work this time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Oh sounds like wow. Line five. Okay, let's go.

Speaker 9 (01:17:11):
All right, Chase Briscoe had a hell of a show
out there at the Tricky Triangle last weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Yes he did, yes weekends Atlanta.

Speaker 9 (01:17:19):
I'm going with Chase Elliott down there in Georgia.

Speaker 13 (01:17:23):
Okay, And let's see, I'd have preferred we got Yannis
instead of KD.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
But it is what it is.

Speaker 13 (01:17:29):
We can deal with it will make it happen. And uh,
other than that, I wanted to enlighten y'all that if
you do choose to go to a NASCAR race, it
is b yob.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Every NASCAR raceway or only a Texas Motor Speed.

Speaker 9 (01:17:46):
That's the closest one other than Coda.

Speaker 13 (01:17:49):
You can go to Coda and do it too. They
are awesome races. It's it's a hell of a thing.
And y'all need to watch American Thunder NASCAR.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
To Lemon's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
I watched Days of Thunder. That's us food, all right.

Speaker 10 (01:18:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
I'm a big fan of Talladega Knights. Ooh, Talladegan Knights.
Very funny being first or last, right, that's right. And
Ricky's and Bobby's everywhere right well Ricky Bobby was his name,
Yeah yeah, but it wasn't there Dale's bunch of Dale's
Uh yeah, Dale was I think his uh one of
the kids' names, right, Walker in Texasrange Walker in Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
I got you, I'm coming to you like a spider
monkey classic. That was a good impersonation. That wasn't of
the child after thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
It wasn't bad at all all right, last, but certainly
not least our buddy, at least Brad.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
How the hell are you, Brad?

Speaker 6 (01:18:42):
I'm good man. I got an iPhone sixteen. I think
it's a C the best one out there, so you
won't have a problem with my phone. The Rock the Astros,
I think Jeremy Pina, when the time comes, his agent
is gonna look at Francisco Lindor and compare his stats

(01:19:05):
to and the age and everything, and he might fall
right underneath that, like maybe three hundred million, maybe too
eighty million, maybe eight years, And I don't think the
Astros are gonna pay that, and he's gonna walk. I
also think at the dead at the trade deadline, that

(01:19:25):
the Astros are gonna find a way to get rid
of Brandon Rodgers and chrism I mean Chas McCormick, and
they're gonna find a way to bring up Brendan, Bryce Matthews,
and I think Kyle Tucker is gonna hit at least
one home run this weekend or yeah, this weekend.

Speaker 9 (01:19:44):
And the last one.

Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
I know, I messed up on Durante.

Speaker 6 (01:19:51):
I know, Hey, I didn't think but the only matt
you said always trades hurt, It didn't really hurt. I think,
uh Brooks is the only one because he's a one
of a kind. He's like Green of Golden State. You
love to hate him, but you wish you had him
on your team. And I don't think there. I looked
at the free agency. There's a bunch of garbage this year.

(01:20:13):
So I but I think the Rockets are gonna do something.
They need something to kind of help out where Brooks left.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
So that that's all I have. Thank you for all that.
So's thrilling stuff. Yeah, he just said it was one
of a kind, but then he brought up Draymond Green,
so that wouldn't be one of a kind. Correct, No,
it's fine, all right, Hey, that was great, Thank you
for it wasn't Oh everybody else was great.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
Yeah, when our phones were working, Am I just wasting
my time? Or this is gonna say? Oh the WiFi
was messed up for a couple of minutes and there's
nothing we can do. Can you please still send it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
All right? Fine, I'll do it right now. Thank you, Evenine.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
On Sports Talks, we have the News at Noon coming
up next, and we have an astro that now has
new representation. How will affect the local nines future with one,
if not two key positions.

Speaker 5 (01:21:16):
Twelve four in each town.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
We start our number three.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Of the Matt Thomas Show with Ross's welcoming you to
listen to be a part of our show via Twitter
at sports MT at AD Sports RV and if they
work the phone lines at seven one three two one
two five seven nine.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Zero, we cross our fingers we want you to call.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
We believe interaction with our audience is very important because
we're not monologuing. We're having a dialogue right yes, but
right now we're gonna monologu because it's time for the
News at Noon, a robust slate of games and sports
Houston related yesterday. Right, No, Matt, Okay, not a robust slate,

(01:22:00):
but we will start with your Houston astros welcoming the
Phillies into town as they kick off this homestand should
be a tough run of the schedule coming up. As
they laid out yesterday, the Astros with the thirtieth most
difficult schedule remaining in terms of opponent win percentage. That
number should improve after these next couple of series, taking
on the Phillies and then the Cubs.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
After that tonight. It is from bra Valdez versus Rangers Suarez.
Did they ever throw in the same game in that
twenty twenty two World Series? They might have.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
I know Ranger Swarez did start some games in that series,
but we'll call it a World Series rematch. Ranger Swars
having a very good season six and one with a
two point two zero er. And I believe the Phillies
are right about the top in terms of overall records
right basically forty seven and thirty one. That is behind
the Tigers and a half game behind the Dodgers. But yes,

(01:22:56):
Phillies one of the better teams in baseball. So two
division leaders coming the National League East and National League
Central leaders coming in the next two series for the Astros.
And you predicted nothing three and three? No, that was
uh who did three? It was one of our listeners
at three, four and two. I believe Jonathan Allen had
all right. And by the way, well, now make a

(01:23:17):
prediction you want me to, I'll pum my name on
something right now. I'll give you a four and two
week for the local nine. Three and three you need
to pause three and three, Okay, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Joe Spot will win on with Gusto on Saturday. There
you go, because you know what you are Team Gusto,
just as all of us.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
That's that's what I am, man, and we will have
Joe Spotted joining us in about twenty five minutes right
here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
That is correct, Matt. Let's see some news in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
The Boston Celtics are trading Drew Holiday away to the
Portland Trailblazers. What are the Trailblazers doing for Anthony Simons
and two second round picks? Andrey Simon's a good pickup
for the Boston's score hadn't won anything up there Portland.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
They were in Portland.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
Unless it's like red floppy headed Bill Walton in the
nineteen seventies.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Gami Litard disagrees. Oh no, he wouldn't disagree. He got
out of there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
He begged out of there's like, try to Miami and
they said Milwaukee.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Sure, why not? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Anyways, So Drew holiday Man is a Portland trailblazer. Anthony
Inferny Seigman's is a bust inside.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
I don't know why Portland did it. I don't. I
don't get it. You just don't get it. No, I don't. Yeah,
I just don't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
A Holiday good player, often hurt, huge contract, huge, huge contract.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
More years.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
Is Drew Holiday under contract? Maybe it's an expiring deal
and they're looking in for a maybe so space maybe.
So that's the only way that it would make any
sense to me. But I'm trying to pull up his
contract real quick to see if it is an expiring
deal for mister Holiday, and no, he's a thirty million
dollars the next two years. And then he's got a

(01:24:53):
player option.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
What what the hell?

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
That's an I just don't get it. I thought Chris
Paul was going to go there. All right, still looking
for a place to play next season.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
All right, Matthew.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
ESPN has ranked their top fifty trade deadline candidates.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Now this doesn't mean.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
Most likely to be traded in baseball, by the way,
but best players that could be traded. Yeah, and number
one on their list is Alex Bregman of the Boston
Red Sox.

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
This list put together by Kylie McDaniel and Jeff Passen,
your favorite of ESPN.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Yeah, he's a great friend of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
Number two Jaren Duran, the outfielder for the Boston Red Sox.
Red Sox, by the way, are forty and forty. They're
six out of the American League East, but the wild
card they are a game and a half out. Why
are you trying to trade Bregman when you're a game
and a half out of the wild card? Why are
you making any trades everything if you're within four of

(01:25:50):
the wild card?

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
I don't know, Matt, let's say put the od They
also put the odds of everyone to be traded on
this list.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
They put it at ten percent. For Alex Brigman is
from ber Valdez in this list from Bervaldez. Is not
in the top fifty of tradable players. Okay, Luis Robert
of the White Sox, I'm talking about potential Maybe Astros
targets Cedric Mullins they probably can't afford. But to the
Baltimore Orioles, he is on this list, and Ryan O'Hearn

(01:26:18):
of the Baltimore Orioles trade percentage they have for him
eighty five percent. Baltimore is gonna be big time sellers,
aren't they. Sounds like there's basically the entire Baltimore roster
is on here. Matt also a lot of Texas Rangers
on this list, imagining at being Baltimore oriole fan back
to back playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
One of them was one hundred wins season? Correct? Am
I making that?

Speaker 5 (01:26:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
They won one hundred games and plus games in twenty
twenty three, I believe, and you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
Blank the bed this year, you fire your manager and
you're now becoming rapid sellers at the trade deadline.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Oriols Baseball catch the fever. Other potential astros targets on
this list, Ryan o'hearne, I would put in that category
are yeah, and Yawan Mancata with the Los Angeles Angels
as well.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
All Right, we need a left handed bat. We of course,
because I'm the backup third basement.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Okay, that's fine. Jonathan was dropping We's earlier too, Will
you drop? Were you dropping a week guy? You a
week guy? You can't be a week guy? What did
I drop like the Gut funds. Ross must have heard it.
It was in the Gut film. Okay, that's fine, I
don't care, all right, next stop Matt on the News
at noon. Comedian Shane gillis tabbed to host the s

(01:27:35):
pi's on July sixteenth. Of course, he was canceled, I
believe when he was on SNL. But I think he's
a really funny comedian. I think it's a good choice.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Fore sp Yeah, I haven't watched the sps in twenty years,
and it'll be probably not twenty years before I watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
You know what, I always end up watching snippets of
on YouTube the Norm McDonald monologue at the SPST.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
Oh I could get into I think you would love that.
I can get into a Norm McDonald rabbit hole. Yeah,
on his OJ jokes. Yes, his appearance is on Conan O'Brien.
His appearance is on Letterman when he would they would
say he couldn't find him and he would behind the stage.
And of course one of the greatest celebrity Jeopardy impersonators
is he impersonated Burt Reynolds.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Are they both thrust in peace?

Speaker 9 (01:28:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
They're both dead. Wow, that's kind of sad celebrity.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Jeopardy's Sean Connery is dead, Trebec is dead, Burt Reynolds
is dead, and Haiti is dead. These are all people
that have been snl. Frerie Stewart is alive, that's true.
Fred Stewart is alive. And it's a deep pool. Just
for me, that was a very deep pull. Wait what

(01:28:41):
eleven twelve twelve eleven? Jonathan's not paying attention?

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
No, he said, very deep pool. I got you mad?
That's okay? Well, your thoughts on Shane gillis indifferent? Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
I think he's hilarious. I haven't really watched that show.
He does tires. It's on the next foot like they
work in a tire shop. It's suposed to be.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Is it funny? I think I saw the clip of
jj Watt was pretty funny. By the way.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
JJ Watt a huge rocket fan, putting out the rocket
emoji after the Kevin Durant trade a couple of days ago.
He loves Houston. Houston is home for JJ Watt. He'll
be in cold ass Wisconsin. Well, I'll tell you what,
how many JJ Watt games will be on the Texans
broadcast calendar this year? He's the number two broadcast team.
Now about with Iron Eagle front of the show. He's

(01:29:28):
on the number two broadcast. Charles Davis is going off
and he's gonna go to college football starting next season.
This year, I thought he was okay in studio. He's
a relaxed a little bit maybe fine. He's got a
natural personality. But his problem to me is sometimes he
tries a little too hard, just like Ed told me
when when you're out, I tried too hard. I think
he's got some mad in him, some boom boom by

(01:29:50):
that kind of stuff. Gregarious got a little mix of Gruden,
a little mix of Romo, a little mix of Mad.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
I think that would be. Those are three of the best.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's gonna be. He's gonna
be a star. He you know where he got the lovees.
He did that one game on Netflix and he's like,
I want to be at the stadium. I don't want
to be in this duck in this Sudy studio. So yeah,
JJ is studio, New York City, Okay, Foxes in La
we were yeah, but yeah New York is. Uh what
the NFL today is?

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
Okay? And that's your news and Noon all right, thank
you very much for all that. You're welcome. We have
Joe A Spot coming up at the bottom of the hour,
NFL rewind it. Wait, the Astros manager, Joe Spot is
gonna join us. He's been with us every Tuesday at
twelve thirty for the last two years. And before that
it was Dusty Baker, and before that it was a J.
Hinch And I don't think we ever did it with
uh those afternoons. Oh, that's right, mis Brad Mills and

(01:30:41):
Charlie badgered by Charlie for twelve minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
Ah, you're now I've lost fourteen in our last fifteen Brah,
what are.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
You gonna do?

Speaker 7 (01:30:48):
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Special? Special?

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
I like Brad, but he used to say special every day.
Matt Deming is a third Oh special player?

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
What Gi Meyer called up? How's he doing?

Speaker 5 (01:31:02):
Special?

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Lucas what was the picture's name? Lucas?

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
Uh, Harrold Lucas Harrold special player? But justin Maxwell special player?

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
Norris and the boys.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
There were some You got this young up and coming
prospect John Singleton, specially that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
You want to trade Hunter Pence. We can't special twelve
fourteen Sports Talk Sevenatti seven one three two would.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
Actually have probably had I think I have a brad
Mills drops in it. Don't do don't don't put brad
Mills drops.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
Don't do that. The man relaxed, enjoys.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
You just kept on talking about how much you said special.
He was special twelve fourteen back. We're gonna have another
special segment next on Sports Talk Sevenatti. So Ross, if
you call Scott Morris's office, is this the music that
you when you're on hold want to talk to Scott.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
The hold money?

Speaker 5 (01:31:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
Or money Talks by a c DC. I think this
could be when you put it old Yeah, that's pretty funny.
Prebady for that one.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Thank you very much. Good line.

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
We opened the show today this morning at Tackle we will.
We've been on there for two hours and twenty minutes already.
By the time, it's just fine. We got Joe's spot
coming up real quick. So two hours and twenty minutes ago,
we're like, nothing happened last night except when Channel Rome
dropped the Jeremy Payne is now a member of the
Scott Boris Klan. I already made a fromber Valde. We're

(01:32:29):
ready for whenever he goes. We have a goodbye Fromber.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Hmm, do I need to go ahead and make a
goodbye Jeremy Pinya?

Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
Do we have so we have Frombert? Hon standby? Yeah,
let me find it because I have I don't remember
hearing Frombert. Did did you do when I was gone?

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
Connor McGovern had it? Is it in this folder? Maybe
I don't know?

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
All right, well, listen, we got on. My computer's freezing,
so okay, that's fine. Uh, let's actually have It's like
two minutes though, and tell me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
I'll play it. You tell me when it stopped? Okay,
go ahead, go ahead, Oh Frober, Yeah, I was definitely
not working this day. You sweet sweet left handed pitchers
they called you, and we'll never forget you as a

(01:33:27):
Houston astro. Great as you came up and we called
it Framber alerts because you would walk everyone and blow
up when you came out on the mound. It's not
a great tribute at all. You right this ship and
the blow up stopped to an extent. There we go,
and we'll always remember how you finished top five in

(01:33:49):
the cy Young couple of times, how you would just
randomly show up with hair extensions, whenever you wanted. Sometimes
you'd give up three home runs in an inning and
you would get to this weird, sinister smile on your face,
like your Heath Ledger playing the joker.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
I definitely wasn't here. I've never heard this before. Stopped it,
all right, So that's a little sample. Yes, now we're
not gonna gotta do another one. Well yeah, not a
free agent for two more today. But it's certainly to
listen to things some point. So we just have it
locked and loaded, you know, like sometimes you have things
ready to go, like when uh, what's his name, Jimmy Carter,

(01:34:26):
you got the Jimmy Carter news package, You're ready to go, right,
Like when Dick Van Dyke dies soon he's he's a hunsky. Yeah,
we got the newsrooms got that locked and load with
some sound bites and the Dick Van Dyke Show and
that kind of stuff with the music. Like the newsroom
here had the Milo tribute ready for a for a bit.
I I knew you were gonna say that. I was

(01:34:48):
waiting for you to say it. I wasn't gonna say it,
so we just gotta have you got to be prepared. Yeah,
so we got the frommer One Ready to Go Frommer's
Locked and Loaded. Oh that was kind of rude. Yeah,
I was gonna say that wasn't a great tribute to
talking about hair extensions. Well, you know, the number one
thing besides his great left handed pitching and the fact
that he was an effective, largely quality pitcher, is he

(01:35:10):
likes to wear the blue uniforms, my favorite aster uniform
with He's kind of ditch that. Lately, he's been an
orange guy, well, the blue that he had a few
bad starts with the blue ones. So I think that
we're on orange now. A lot of oranges last few weeks. Okay,
do you want to do a Hunter Brown one too? No,
I still believe. I hope, I hope we don't have

(01:35:30):
to play them.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
But we won one for a Hunter Brown extension and
one for the Hunter Brown's gone.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
That's you know what we say that for All Star Week? Okay,
we got some time to kill just saying okay, so
Hunter Brown extension, Hunter Brown farewell, and then now we
got to add Jeremy Panna extension, Jeremy Panna farewell, Okay,
and we'll do that during All Star Week because that's
the slowest week of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
Besides, you're watching the SP's giving us a complete breakdown
on that very busy that week. All right, seven won
three seven nine.

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
If you want to chime in, we've got Joe A
spotty coming up in about five minutes here on Sports
Talk seven nine. If you want to be a part
of the program real quick before we get to Joe,
Biscuit is with us?

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Biscuit? What you got today?

Speaker 5 (01:36:13):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (01:36:13):
What's happening to my brother?

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
I'm going match?

Speaker 4 (01:36:15):
First of all, I didn't get a chance of time
in with yesterday. For me, thumbs up on the trade
man U Uh, and especially for the fact that they
were able to hold on to those first round picks,
those future first round picks of Phoenix. I give a
stone at a lot of credit for Uh. The trade
he pulled off. Uh didn't give up much in my opinion, and.

Speaker 5 (01:36:36):
UH upgraded the team.

Speaker 4 (01:36:39):
But the reason I called in, I want I want
to ask Ross this too, man, Uh. These achilles injuries. Now, Ross,
when I came up playing basketball, majority well everybody will
high tops and now I guess it was like mid
nineties when it went to three quarters and now they
wear these low cut Do you think that plays any

(01:37:02):
kind of factory because you don't have the support that
you would.

Speaker 11 (01:37:06):
Have with the higher.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
Yeah, I don't know because I saw somebody say that.
And I answer your question, biscuit is I'm I'm not a.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Yes, but I'm not. Oh, you know, whop? You don't hoop.
That's a lie. I'm more of a hooper than you are.
Let's go, let's go play one on one today. I'm no,
let's go, mister hooper. I can't do it today.

Speaker 5 (01:37:33):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
I'm busy tomorrow after I'll my calendar. Yes, I wear
I wear always.

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
I have ankles that did uh the twist very easily,
so I have high tops shoes. I always wear high tops.

Speaker 4 (01:37:47):
It's just just seems like, you know, something is amiss here.
It seems like because it's it's a rash of them
and the other last thing I would say, and I
would throw this after you, man, do we need to
start holding the team doctors or whatever, because you know,
of course the players going on to play, I mean
an NFL game.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
We not gonna loud guy get on the field.

Speaker 4 (01:38:08):
He had a high chance of having a severe injury.

Speaker 3 (01:38:11):
Well, I'll tell you what we're gonna want here's what
we're learning right now, biscuiting. Thanks to the phone call,
we are learning that calf injuries, if you get one,
you're down for a while. Because the reality is this,
and it was even that Sham Sharone reported this. Normally,
when you get a calf strain like the one that
Tyrese Haliburton got earlier in the series, you missed three weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
He decided he wanted to play anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
So when you hear calf strains with NBA players, you
should now think about three to four weeks being out.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
M hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
He did a He went against that because he was
supposed to and he needed to and he doesn't regret.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
It, and good for him. But it did pay. You
did pay a price.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
He said he would do it again, but yeah, he
paid a big price, heavy price. All right, let's talk
to Joe A. Spotta will do that next twelve to
twenty seven on Sports Talk seven, Hounti zim prest to
spend ten called a minutes with the manager of your
beloved Houston Astros, and we do that with Joe Spotted. Tonight,
the Astro started a series with the Philadelphia Phillies in
a three games set with the Chicago Cubs this weekend. Skip,

(01:39:19):
I hope you enjoyed the off day. I gotta go
back to Sacramento a little bit. I didn't realize it
was like home run derby in that ballpark. That ball
travels fast out of that building.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Does it not.

Speaker 5 (01:39:30):
Look it looked like it did. Yeah a play it
played small.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
And you know, but I thought, you know, both teams
kind of new going into the series, and there were
some long home runs for sure during that series.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
Would y'all fee Mauricio do Bon on the road trip?
Four home runs? My goodness?

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
Yeah, so I'm really on the bat really well, really
love going to uh Sacramento in front of his home crowd,
in front of family and friends, saying he really had
a really good series. Also carry that that momentum into
the into UH into Los Angeles from the bat really well,
put some good swing quality of bats. Really saw him,
you know, stepping up and getting some huge.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Hits for US four and three road trip give me
a higher level of both of the trips so far.
When you when you when you saw, I mean the
numbers offensively were significantly better than maybe the previous couple
of weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
But you're starting pitching.

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
You know, look, you wish you could go through the
order every single time and get you know, seven innings
or two run ball. But you were able to still
get a winning road trip despite the fact that some
of your starters got hit a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
Uh, you know what, I thought, we had a really good,
really good road trip. And you want to play you know,
if you if you want, you want to play foul
hundred on.

Speaker 5 (01:40:43):
The road, and we did that. We did a lot
of things well we are.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
We are getting good pitching from a lot of our
from a lot of the fellas. And uh, you know,
it's not easy, uh when you are going through moments
like this where we have had some injuries and we're
asking guys step up and pitch innings and and but
but I'm really pleased with the way we are, we're
going about things. I couldn't be more proud of these group. Uh,

(01:41:11):
you know, thirteen game stretch of games West Coast, you
know weather and it was really warm and Sacramento, and
we're really grinding through things. Just really really happy, very
pleased with the way we're playing baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
And Jeremy Painey continues to play well. It feels like
at some point, I mean, he's so far ahead of
his career numbers, I'm kind of like, ah, is this
going to keep going?

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
And it just keeps going? How is he able to
do this?

Speaker 5 (01:41:37):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
You know, there was no doubt that, you know, there's
no doubt in my mind that he could keep this
going for for the rest of his career. He's a
really talented young man, and he has made adjustment that
I think he can prolong this four years to come.
You know, he's smart, He's really well prepared every time
he steps on.

Speaker 5 (01:41:57):
The baseball field, and he's worked.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
I can't think he's impeccable, and I know he can
create consistency throughout his career because just how you know,
discipline he is. But he is right now All Star Warthy.
He is playing the best baseball that I've seen out
of Jeremy since he since he joined US.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
News coming yesterday that he changed representation to Scott Boris.
Is that ever anything you talked to players about or
in casual conversations or you just keep it baseball, Matt, I.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
Stay away from all those conversations.

Speaker 3 (01:42:30):
That was rass not me, that's me. That's I would
do that that's good. Joe spotted with us here on
the Sports Talk seven euty. So Philadelphia and Chicago coming
in this is gonna be a nice little Barrometer test
for you guys back home. Is a good but be
a pair of first place teams. Uh, you don't see
these teams but once a year. Anything uh stand out

(01:42:51):
with Philadelphia besides the fact they're just crushing the ball these.

Speaker 5 (01:42:53):
Days, no exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
He's going to be exciting here baseball for the whole week.
Two first place team team playing really good baseball. Talented teams. Uh,
you know they they're not only the Phillies can hit,
but they also have some really good starting pitching.

Speaker 5 (01:43:08):
So we are playing good baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
So it's going to be fun baseball for the next
six days and we need to continue the momentum moving
moving forward. We've played you know, we're playing really good
here at home, So we are excited to be here
at home, playing these two good teams in front.

Speaker 5 (01:43:22):
Of our home crowd.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
Skip anything new on the injury front, and you have
got a few guys that we got some positive reports
on where we Have you heard anything about Lance? I
know Spencer's getting a little bit closer, and you get
some other guys down the road, and obviously getting Chas
McCormick back giving you some outfield depth.

Speaker 5 (01:43:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we are.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
We are getting some guys that are moving in the
right directions. I know Lance threw up the mound yesterday
and he went really well. Hopefully we get him to
go up the mound here in the next few days
one more. Again you mentioned mccormicks. He's also moving in
the right direction. He's hitting, he's going, he's doing funnel
baseball activity.

Speaker 5 (01:43:58):
Hopefully we could.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
Transition him down to older here to get some of
my best pretty soon.

Speaker 5 (01:44:02):
Uh. Spencer also is doing well.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
Luis Garcia and and Javier JP France, all those guys
are also.

Speaker 5 (01:44:09):
Doing well, same as Jordan Olibaretz.

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
So we are getting some guys healthy. Hopefully we could
get these guys uh back back back here in Houston
and and and help.

Speaker 5 (01:44:18):
Us win some games.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
You know, it's funny to me when there was a
lot of question marks about the squad coming in. I
think there was some probably some uncertainty with your bullpen
even even as you were about to leave West Palm Beach.
Teed go from uncertainty to man you can rely on
those guys and have done so all year long. That
has to be one of the huge storylines of the
spaceball season as we hit the halfway point.

Speaker 5 (01:44:39):
Yeah, and you know, we have been we have been
very lucky with you know, with with this guys.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
They from day one, they show us to supreme training.
They competing for spots. They knew the importance of having
a you know, a solid and healthy bullpen. And these
guys have done that doing everything in my pop those
guys healthy. That's before and you know, our pitching coach
is doing a tremendous job just keeping those guys, you know,

(01:45:05):
focused and prepared for every series.

Speaker 5 (01:45:08):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
You know, we we've been very fortunate to have a
group of relievers that have really help us, you know,
win some games, keep you keep us closing games so
we could come back and giving the offense and opportunity
to come back.

Speaker 5 (01:45:19):
And win games.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
You know, very fortunate to have a group of relievers
really up in and we've got a lot of people,
so we're going to computing guys and.

Speaker 5 (01:45:33):
We can keep them going.

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
For Lets your run skip. Ryan Guesso has been kind
of your swing guy. Parts time starter, part time reliever
and has been starting a lot because of obviously the
the ailments in the rotation. That is never an easy
position for anybody. What is it like just getting with
him and just saying, hey, enjoy the experience. You're a
major leaguer. You're a guy that we were going to
give you a shot.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
Dan the last year couldn't do so, but now kind
of taking them the best opportunity he can. Is just
trying to figure out his way to stay on this
twenty six man roster and he and he had exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
And you said it, man, he's he's open to helping us.
Uh uh, either out of the bullpen or in the rotation.
You know, when when Lands went down, we asked him
on short notice eight we need you to start tomorrow
or you know, because of you know, the injury to
Lens And he's like, listen, I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:46:23):
Ready to go.

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
And he goes out and he you know, he posts
and and he throws the ball really well for us.
You know, we got a couple bunch of young kids
who who are eager to to establish himself in the
big leagues, who are ready to contribute, and that has
been something that we have done here really well and
in an Astros for for a long time, identifying good

(01:46:47):
young pictures and developing into major league major league pictures.

Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
You know, it's crazy to me and look not that
you spend a lot of time looking at the Baseball
Americas and baseball perspectives. Now he say, you know the
Astros Montaling systems bottom five skip. You've been able to
go to those guys so much, whether it's position players
or leievers, to come and help you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
I find this to be largely overrated. Where would you
have not have been if you haven't been able to
go to sugar Land and get some guys over the
course of the year.

Speaker 5 (01:47:14):
Listen, I.

Speaker 1 (01:47:16):
Trust our people in our PD department. I try not
to read any into what the news and the forecast
and the I just don't don't don't like doing that
because a lot of times they don't really know what
we know about our guys, right. I know the character,

(01:47:39):
and I personally know a lot of our players. I
know the coaches, I know the people who invest ours
trying to develop our players, and we have shown that
throughout the years that we don't need to be ranked
according to you know, Baseball America whatever it is. But
that's that's not what it's all about. Its developing these players,

(01:48:01):
teaching them what it takes to be successful at the
major league level, and we have had a really great
history of doing just that last question.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
You know, you started cam Smith batt eighth or ninth
when he first got up here, and he steadily moved
up the lineup.

Speaker 3 (01:48:16):
Part of it because guys are getting days off. Part
of the fact that his offensive has been much better,
is that what you kind of thought when you first
inserted him is like, Hey, I understand there's a lot
of pressure on this young man for being a first
time major leaguer, and I'm gonna take some of that
pressure up by putt him in the bottom third. But
he's got to grow with confidence when he walks gets
in the ballpark every day and sees them in the

(01:48:36):
upper half of that lineup.

Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
Yeah, you know what, I view him as someone who's
gonna be hitting in the middle of a lineup in
the future. I think we need to slow the process
down and do it in a in a way where
we are we're doing it for at the right time
against certain certain type of pitchers that match it so

(01:49:00):
really well against him and protecting him that way. But
there's going to be a day mat where where you
where you're going to walk in here, and this young
man is going to be hitting in the middle of
the lineup for four years and years to come. But
right now we're in the process or developing for him
to learn, for him to adjust, not be overwhelmed by
a lot of things that goes on in daily basis.

(01:49:22):
But right now he's swinging it back really well. He's
starting to drive the ball out of the ballpark his
two strik approach. He's really good. So I expect him
just to be kind of moving and hitting somewhere in
the middle line up for the next couple of you know,
the next couple of weeks, and and if there's if
there's need to be changed to protect him, I'll do that,
but I'll make sure that I communicate that with him

(01:49:43):
to make sure that he understand what's what's the plan. Skip.

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
Thanks for visitors. Always will do it again again next week.
Good luck this week against the the Afhillies and the couple.
We appreciate the visit as always, all right. Thanks See
that's the Joe spot up with us here on Sports
Talk seven on twelve forty four is our time. If
you want to chime in anything that Joe had to say,
you may do so at seven one three, two one
two five seven ninety. That's seven one three, two one

(01:50:08):
two five SEVENAINTI, this is the Matt Thomas Show.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
Ross. We take you to two o'clock today the NFL
rewind at one twenty. What is today's edition? To believe
or not? At one fifty? We haven't mentioned it once?
Mm I don't know what is the most President Morris
could be?

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
How about the comedian this doing the Oh Shane Gillis?
Can you think of eight things about Shane Gillis? I
could make them up? Is he related Adobe Gillos? Hmmm?

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
He got booed off the stage at the Apollo Theater,
like with a little can that pulls them off the stage.
Show Time with Apollo twelve forty four, Sports Talk Sevenatti.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
Time is twelve forty nine. It is Sports Talk seven NINTI.
It is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. We've got
another hour plus coming up. And uh, thanks again to
Joe A spoted for joining us. It's you know, it's it's.

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
When things are not going well, you have the easy
low hanging fruit questions that I can't. I'm sorry keep
saying low hanging fruit. It's such as a cliche term,
and it's true, though, hit me every time I say
it because I say it too much. You want to
punch right in the throat. I don't think it deserves
that kind of penalty. But you know, I'm gonna get
a bamboo read. That doesn't feel nice. But when you win,

(01:51:21):
it's this person's great. This person's great, this person's great.
And that's what I kind of felt like with Joe
was that there wasn't Look, there wasn't a whole lot
to you know. Look, A lot of managers and a
lot of coaches for that matter, would always say, play
five hundred on the road, you're gonna be a good team.

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
And the Astros did go five hundred on the road.
They went four to seven.

Speaker 3 (01:51:41):
Now, if you go to Colorado and sport A Series,
you're gonna feel bad, pretty bad. Although the Rockies, I
think you're five and five in their last ten games.
So again, things are cyclical.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
But generally speaking, you do want to play five hundred
baseball in the road, and if you get above five hundred,
that's considered a bonus, and so there wasn't a whole
lot for us necessarily chew on in terms of you know,
what are you worried about?

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
And injuries. To me, Joe's only going to know what.
He's only getting his recon from his general manager and
in his medical staff. But if there was, if there
was big news when it came to injuries, they had
floated out there, Hey yeah, mccullor's are going to be
back this week or Jordon's gonna be back this week,
And it feels like those things are not going to happen.

(01:52:19):
I fully anticipate ord On not being back until after
the All Star break, just because it feels like that
would be the right time to give him a really
long extended run, get fully healed, maybe get some games
in it there at the minor league Double A, triple A,
and then hopefully after the All Star brick you get
him back. But I'm not putting any time parameters on
it because that when I do, I always look I
feel like I'm a full doing it. I did mess

(01:52:41):
up not asking him about the Torrid streak that continues
for Jake Myers. I don't know if Torrid and Jake
Myers are in the same sentence. However, until maybe this year.
It's almost July and he's hitting three to ten. Matt
slogging that's not important. Nobody cares about that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
I mean they kind of do.

Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
Not the end all be all, but getting on basis important.
Now you're not if you're in the top five in
the order, you want to slow four oh seven, it's
not bad. There's been a lot of worse.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
Seven seventy six ops for Jake Myers.

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
You take that all day, especially when the average is
about what you say, seven twenty five. Yeah, somewhere, I
think it was like seven around seven ten.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
Let me tell you something. The OLPs is seven ten
and average. I mean there's no I told you.

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
Evandrelik Relic Drelich. Evan Drelich did the study. I mean
they he put out a big article about how the
ball is traveling. I think, like four feet fewer than
it was last year. It's a different ball, and for
whatever reason, they keep changing up the balls. I don't
know why, but that makes it even more remarkable what
guys like cal Rally and Aaron Judge are doing. But

(01:53:52):
you know, also part of it too, though, is that
these ballparks are easy to hit a home runs. And
we were talking about this with the skipper. Mm hm
that Sacramento the ball flew out of the yard. Tampa
day games flies out well, and still the average average
OPS is lower than it was. And by the way,
Jake Myers is also we speaked, I spoke about doing

(01:54:15):
due for some batted ball luck regression.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
Jake Myers is. Jake Myers is due to get hit
pretty hard by regression. But well, if somebody tells me
they're due to do something, I take it with a
grain of salt. Okay, all right, well I'll bet you
Jake Myers hasn't hit three ten the rest of the season.
You bet the over.

Speaker 3 (01:54:35):
I didn't say that, but I mean you could say, well,
you could say that Brendan Rodgers is due when he
comes off the disabled list injured list too.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
Well, I don't know. I have to look at his numbers.
You could say that Christian Walker is due to have
a better second half of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
He is.

Speaker 5 (01:54:50):
He is is too.

Speaker 3 (01:54:52):
But Jake Myers and Jeremy Peney do to come down
a little bit, especially in the in the case of
Jake Myers.

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
You know what I think his ideal.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
We deal in the here and the now with our
sports teams, and so I'm going to respectfully not worry
about the Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
You cannot worry about it, but I'm just going to
tell you that that's what's happening. It doesn't necessarily have
to happen. Though. He's not going to hit three seventy
two with balls and play the rest of the year.
I'd like him too. I would love him too because
the president, the president of the fan club. His career
averages three oh eight. He's at three seventy two this year.
But if you're the president of the fan club and
you're already doubting what his future is going to be

(01:55:29):
like not doubting, I'm talking about realities. See, just because
I'm a Rockets fan. Just because i'm battle red Ross
doesn't mean I think, no your battle round you are,
it's right you are.

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
Doesn't mean I'm gonna say c. J. Stroud is the
best quarterback in the league. That's stupid by way of
supporting somebody and being a blind homer. So yeah, I
like Jake Myers, but I'm also going to be realistic
about it. I don't always have to read the numbers, though,
if I'm going to deal in the hear and that out,
because the numbers told me last year that normally after
May thirty first he goes into this June.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
Swoon and that hasn't happened. I didn't tell you that,
Yeah I did. I'm going up for recency. What last year?

Speaker 9 (01:56:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
I saw last year before and see it's not happening now.
I don't know. Do you think did he have a
robust June of twenty twenty four?

Speaker 5 (01:56:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
Yeah, probably not.

Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
Hey, like I said, I'm dealing here and the now,
and the here and the now is the asters of
a four and a half game. Okay, we'll just remember
this conversation when he goes into a slump.

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
So cranky. I mean, did Joe the experience?

Speaker 3 (01:56:28):
I am enjoying an experience the fan club welcomes all, Yeah,
I'm enjoying all these extra news.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
Wait, you just said I want to invite you to
the fan club. You're like, well, he's his bad at ball.
Numbers are gonna be worse than the second half of
the year. Those two things can be true.

Speaker 3 (01:56:41):
Set up hard. You can be a fan of somebody
and also be realistic about who they are. Kevin Durant,
huge fan. Not winning the scoring championship, Kevin Durant twenty
five points a game. I'm fully anticipating it. Oh, he
should be over that, Yeah, I hope. So if he
continue to be fifty to forty, guy, am I gonna
sit here and guarantee he's gonna be playing eighty two games?

Speaker 2 (01:57:03):
No, no, no, we don't need to do that. Give
me sixty great ones. You can be a fan and
also not be an idiot. Homer, who's an idiot? At Homer?
I don't know people, you know what name names.

Speaker 3 (01:57:15):
We're just just speaking glosses, just general terms. Okay, you'll
tell me during the break. I don't know what you're
talking about. Twelve fifty six on Sports Talk seven, and
we had another hour left to go on the radio
program seven one three two one two. Let we get
the Frisco Roughriders off the TV. There's nothing else on.

Speaker 2 (01:57:33):
Man, we're in the dog.

Speaker 3 (01:57:34):
Because you're listening to radio, you don't have time to watch. True,
I didn't watched my stories yesterday. That's how bad it
was when it comes to TV sports watch. I caught
up on your Oh there's Paul patrols on. We'll put
that on for Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
That's that's you know what.

Speaker 5 (01:57:49):
Oh was it?

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
That's before your time? I'm sorry, you know what that
was rude? No, I'm older than Papa Troll. That's like,
you know, okay, SpongeBob, then there we go. I love SpongeBob.
Actually stuff, you know, the sponge about the coat. I
can't remember the last cartoon that I regularly watched. I
wasn't a Simpsons guy. Wasn't a SpongeBob an adult cartoon
or like a kid's cartoon. They brought back the X

(01:58:13):
Man cartoon I used to watch. That probably have to
go with I'm gonna have to go back to my
youth x Man cartoon, one of the great all time
cartoons when I.

Speaker 2 (01:58:21):
Was a youth. I love super Friends because it gave
me Batman, Robin, wonder Woman, and Superman all on one show.

Speaker 3 (01:58:29):
In Aquaman, they had to keep on inventing reasons to
be in the ocean. Aquaman was in that too. I mean, seriously,
you gave me. It's like going to a buffet. You
got every superhero on one show. There's only so many
maritime crimes Aquaman can be involved in You don't know
that cas are rough rock. I feel like most crime

(01:58:51):
is committed on land.

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
I don't know. There are a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:58:53):
Pirates out there. Wait, who you trust? Batman or so Roquaman? Now,
if he's one against the Riddler, I one time a
go ahead and take Batman. But Aquaman's gonna do his job.
He's going to patrol, he's working for the coast Guard.
When he's not busy, well, he's choking on microplastics right now.
How you shamed Aquaman is beyond me, poor kid man.

(01:59:18):
Was there never an aa?

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
Locked the kid? Get me right now? Was there was
ever an aqua woman? Was there an aqua? He didn't
get an aqua lady? Oh, it's an aqua lady. I
thought the Was there ever an aqua woman? There was Batwoman,
they were the Wonder Twins, There was ever a wonder Man,
although Superman would probably be the comp on that right.

(01:59:41):
I guess her name was Mara m E r A. Hmmm,
I don't remember aqua woman? You don't remember in the
in the seas? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:59:53):
She said, I saw you looking at that mermaid? Oh oh,
then just getting in trouble. Most famous Mermaid of course
would be Darryl Ham. Then splash, Oh I thought it
would be The Little Mermaid with Flounder, and yeah, probably
so probably so all right, I don't know where this
show has gone off the rails in the last second,
four hours to fill it. We're down on an hour,
We're down the home stretch. NFL rewind coming up in

(02:00:14):
twenty minutes. Do you know how confident Oklahoma City was
in winning the NBA championship?

Speaker 2 (02:00:21):
They had their parade today.

Speaker 3 (02:00:23):
Usually it takes like four or five days to get
that bad boy organized. They won their championship on Sunday,
and today's Tuesday. The the parie's already done. They were anticipating,
they had the route. Yeah, there's anticipating five game series.
They've had the planes in place for a while.

Speaker 2 (02:00:40):
They had their anticipating.

Speaker 3 (02:00:41):
They anticipated five hundred thousand people in downtown Oklahoma City.
The metro population of Oklahoma City, that's the city itself
in the suburbs are one point four million, So one
out of every three people. Does that sound about right now?
How many people that the numbers four? The astros Italian

(02:01:01):
I think at the astros m M, so that's that's
only about fifteen sixteen percent of what we have. Could
you imagine basically forty percent of the city's metro population.

Speaker 2 (02:01:15):
In one area in one short period of time like that? No, well,
that's what they're saying.

Speaker 3 (02:01:21):
So five hundred thousand people in twenty twenty two, they says,
a crowd of nearly two million. That is that seems
like that feels that feels really really embellished. Says one million.
Now this other estimate says one million. Come on, now,
I would think in Oklahoma Save with a smaller downtown

(02:01:42):
than you could probably figure you could add the number
of m You can only start with chili. So many
times in Oklahoma City, do you know what fast food
chain is?

Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
National Headquarters or in Oklahoma City Sonic That is correct,
Monic Maivin And they in the Rubs truck shop Okay, travel.

Speaker 3 (02:02:02):
St think of that's who they have their jersey spots
right or used to you. I don't know if he
still is yep.

Speaker 2 (02:02:07):
So yeah, Oklahoma City already had their parade. The best
thing was was it?

Speaker 3 (02:02:11):
Jalen Williams doesn't drink, but he had himself a shot
and a couple of beers and he's like, this is disgusting.

Speaker 2 (02:02:16):
I'll ever do it again. Which one? Oh, I feel
bad they pressure him in a drinking Yeah, wasn't a
drinker and said I'm done after that. Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:02:23):
And apparently, and I've seen a lot of photos of this.
Oklahoma City left about two thirds of their champagne and
their beer unopened in their locker room. Isaiah Hartenstein was
asked why that was, and he said, cause none of
us know how to open up these cans.

Speaker 2 (02:02:37):
Of beer, and these are the bottles of Yeah. Well,
it's the youngest team in the league, and you know,
kids these days don't drink as much. I'm happy about
that as a young man there, as a man raising
three children, I'm more than okay with that. Well, I
think thhcs more in vogue. If it was a fag party,
that's a question for the young kids. I don't know
that's true. Look at him rolling his eyes. I don't

(02:02:57):
want to out the young lads, all right. One oh sha.

Speaker 3 (02:03:00):
Sports Talk seven out eighty is the final hour of
the radio program. If you want to chime in, you
may do so at seven one, three, two, one, two
five seven. Getting a lot of Aquaman tweets coming in, really,
which is weird, but it's fine.

Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
It's to each his own.

Speaker 9 (02:03:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:03:13):
Mara apparently is Aquaman's wife, but you don't call her
aqua woman. You just call her Mirah. What about aqua lady? Nope?
Well not there, No, why are you booing that? What
if she was single?

Speaker 1 (02:03:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:03:28):
Then why is the aqua ladies? Get his name?

Speaker 10 (02:03:31):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
M y'all haters? What are you listening to? Back there?
What do you get your own podcast? Going back there?

Speaker 6 (02:03:37):
Man?

Speaker 2 (02:03:37):
What's going on? Guys?

Speaker 3 (02:03:40):
Good Sports Talk seven ninety on Instagram? I'm getting this
bother podcast. Okay, there you go. All right, thank you
very much for that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:48):
All right, headlines today Astros Phillies coming up tonight on
Deck Show. I'll be hosting on Deck Show at six o'clock.
You will, yes, how funny those words are never said
by Adam Klanting and Adam Weser at six o'clock. I
will be doing tomorrow in the day after okay, uh,
and then I'll be hosting Friday. Look at us taking
care of the next four days? Really yeah? Hm hm,

(02:04:11):
it's fine, that's all. Yeah, man, I'm not doing it
next week. So even to we're all trying to we're
all trying to chip in.

Speaker 5 (02:04:18):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (02:04:19):
Also on Thursday, I will be at the Chema Boardwalk
for it Rock the Duck on behalf of Sunday ninety
nine point one.

Speaker 2 (02:04:24):
Come out and see me.

Speaker 3 (02:04:26):
What will you be doing for Sunday nine point one?
They got a nineties cover band out there, do they really? Yeah,
Spasmatics Rock the Duck. No, that's eighties. Oh sorry, they're
called joy Lucks. Are you gonna introduce him?

Speaker 2 (02:04:38):
I think so. You're gonna dress up nicely? Oh what
does that mean?

Speaker 3 (02:04:41):
It's gonna be hot? I mean you're gonna be shorts
and a T shirt or a polo poll Yeah, shorts.
I feel like it's gonna be like nine thousand degrees.

Speaker 2 (02:04:49):
What are you gonna wear?

Speaker 5 (02:04:49):
Tucks?

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
I'm just saying Sunny Rock the Boat, Sonny. Yeah, I'm
angling for a weekend spot on Sunny Are you really?

Speaker 5 (02:04:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:04:59):
You know what Sky Mike? You were hit Mike Scott
one day?

Speaker 4 (02:05:02):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:05:02):
Please that a can? I can do it?

Speaker 5 (02:05:03):
Then?

Speaker 2 (02:05:04):
Yeah? I've been asking to do a seventy Saturday night
and they won't and they won't let me let me
do it. No, they're not gonna play seventies anymore. They
don't play a single song from the seventies there anymore.
H that's not completely accurate, But I was like one,
there's like one or two. You're right, just like you'll
hear I will seventy nine, you'll hear I will survive
occasionally on there. I thought. Last time we talked to
Mark Shermany, he said there was like one song from

(02:05:26):
the seventies. So I'm gonna go find out during the break. Okay,
But yeah, I wanted to host seventies Saturday Night and
there were forty six years ago. But the point is,
you can't give me four hours on a Saturday to
do it. Yeah, I can give you three am to
seven am. I will take it. At that point, I'm
not going to complain. Just give me the spot, all right.
Astros off tonight only The only news of.

Speaker 3 (02:05:45):
The day really is no no there off tonight. They
were playing there off yesterday. They're playing the Phillies tonight.
Cubs this weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:05:53):
The Astros did officially announce they're going to celebrate the
Kyle Tucker Ryan Presley days oh in a ceremony on Friday.
Cubs fan does not like Ryan Presley right now? You know,
it's so tough for me because Ryan. I liked Ryan.
We used to have good conversation with Ryan. Yeah, like Ryan.
Then he just when things didn't go well, he didn't

(02:06:16):
want to do interviews and want to talk and not
that we would go Hey remember that time of the
seventh inning when you had a three run ling gave
it up. I mean we wouldn't have done that. We'd
a treat it with kid gloves. Oh yeah, he's thirty six.
He's just not as good as he used to be.
It is what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:06:29):
Father time comes for us all. But if not for
Ryan Presley. In twenty twenty two, the Astros do not
win the World Series. Correct, He was fantastic in the postseason.
So I just you know, along with a Bray you
and Rafael Montero, they were all good. Yeah, Ryan Danny
didn't get a whole lot of usage. You remember everybody's
upset and Ryan Stanny didn't get in the games. Oh
they were like, test, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:06:50):
He doing? Why does he hate Ryan Stanek? Shut you
about mass up? They won the World Series.

Speaker 3 (02:06:56):
I wish Bullpen was better this one of the twenty
two twenty two I think so it was in much
more high pressure situation. Yeah, I mean we can get there.
I think last I checked, they're still they're back to
top five, and Yeah, has bounced back after that one
rough founding. He had Hay to give up the home run,
but his era is still sub two. Brian King's been
roughed up a little bit as of late, but nothing

(02:07:16):
too too bad. I mean they've had something, They've they've got.
I mean, so many guys you've never heard of that
just come through and just get you outs. Oh, they're
back to second. Bene SEUs has been really good this year, second.

Speaker 2 (02:07:31):
In team E r A and as far as relievers only, well,
I think, I think again.

Speaker 3 (02:07:38):
The storyline for the twenty twenty five season has been,
in large part three things, the move for paying you
to go to leadoff the bullpen and the defense, and
the fact that Jake Myers has been again he's Jake,

(02:07:59):
tell me twenty minutes, is gonna regress? Well, he might,
but he hasn't. That's right, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:08:04):
Well, Jeremy Page's gonna regress too, No, no, no, no,
don't speak those words into existence. He's not.

Speaker 3 (02:08:09):
I don't think he's gonna hit three twenty in the
whole season. I don't be great if he did. It'd
be great if he did. And I'd love to be
wrong on both of those because his new his new
boss or his new agent boss will really appreciate that.
I also think the Einer is going to be better
and Christian Walker's gonna be better. You know, we did
bring up a lot today about Pinion getting Scott Boris representation.
Wouldn't it be really interesting and fun and I mean

(02:08:29):
stunning that if we found out in the off season
that they'd put together some sort of deal at least for.

Speaker 2 (02:08:34):
One of the two. I mean, can we can?

Speaker 3 (02:08:36):
We we lose both and we've lost both in one
year already. We saw that with Kyle Tucker and with
Alex Bregman. But at least in the Tucker situation got
something back in return. That's right, impact players and a
guy with Tam John who was an impact player. Yeah,

(02:08:56):
but man, I don't, I don't. I don't want to
think about another world of losing more players in three years.

Speaker 2 (02:09:01):
But it's it's you have to beat. He's under team
control for this year and two more. We relax Brown
good under Brown I'm talking about Hunter Brown. Is I
think the same thing?

Speaker 4 (02:09:10):
Right?

Speaker 3 (02:09:11):
Okay, so we can relax until spring training twenty twenty eight, Yes,
then we can.

Speaker 2 (02:09:15):
We're not and then we're not going. We're not to
talk about it, no, non stop. And that's fine. Oh
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (02:09:21):
Even extra year for Donner Brown. He's not a free
agent until twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (02:09:25):
Oh wait, then we're putting Hunter in the off By then,
I'll be growing up more by then.

Speaker 5 (02:09:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:09:34):
The Matt Thomas Show, produced by Matt Thomas, co hosted
by Matt Thomas Internet only show catch me on YouTube.
M just kidding. No, I'll be here Hunter Brown. That's
really good. That's really good news.

Speaker 5 (02:09:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:09:51):
See, don't fret.

Speaker 3 (02:09:52):
Okay, So we're just gonna semi warring about to send
me worry about Yeah, all right. One fourteen, Sports Talk said,
we have the NFL. Rewind what did we miss from
the busy world of the offseason. I've got some stuff
for you to find out next one to fourteen on
Sports Talk seven to ninety. Twitter Aaron Rodgers or Kurt
Warner Aaron Rodgers, Right, I would agree. I mean again,

(02:10:19):
some of Kurt's prime years were as a member of
the Iowa Barnstormers.

Speaker 2 (02:10:22):
So that's you know, well that's the Breakes. Yeah, I mean,
all right, one guy had a movie made about him.
One didn't. I mean he had a great of course
seasons with the greatest show on turf, and then he
had the comeback with the Cardinals yep, and ride up
with the Giants. Correct. I think was that yeah? Before

(02:10:43):
or after?

Speaker 3 (02:10:43):
I can't remember. Well, he hit a long NFL crazy
he the one that he was replaced by Eli Manning
with it when he was with the Giants, some veteran guy.
I think it was, yeah, And then he went to
Cardinals and that was it.

Speaker 2 (02:10:57):
So he went.

Speaker 3 (02:11:00):
To Giants to Cardinals. Well, he was with the Packers,
didn't make the team. Then he was at the barn
Stormers and then the Amsterdam Admirals. Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:11:10):
Then the Rams and then Giants Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (02:11:12):
Yeah they almost they almost beat the Steelers in then
oh nine Super Bowl and the almost the James Heron
picked six. They also almost lost the Rams Titan Super Bowl.
Oh there was that crazy catch who made the crazy
catch with the Roethlisberger too, who was at Santonio Holmes.

(02:11:33):
It was some crazy catches Involvedent I mean the David
Tyree catch till to this day is when he catches
it on his helmet.

Speaker 5 (02:11:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:11:40):
I mean if you tried to replicate that play one
hundred times, you couldn't do it. Yeah, they got like Yeah.
By the way, when you talk about Super Bowls.

Speaker 3 (02:11:50):
In a measuring stick, Eli Manning's got two, and nobody
ever puts the Eli Manning in that top ten or
top Pinida, your top twenty, your top twenty five. Team accomplishment, Yeah,
nobody's got trend for is better than Dan Marino, Brad Johnson,
Brad Johnson Elites had like a couple decent years. Brad
Johnson better than war Moon. No, no, no super bowls there,

(02:12:10):
no appearances. Yeah, but it's part of the converse.

Speaker 2 (02:12:14):
Bring my microphone there.

Speaker 3 (02:12:16):
Terry Bradshaw four super Bowls never gets brought up in
the top twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:12:20):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:12:21):
I don't even know if Terry Bradshaw eleven Hall of
famers starting on defense. Yeah, and he also had great
offensive line and two great running backs and two amazing
wide receivers.

Speaker 2 (02:12:31):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (02:12:31):
Well, that team was littered with Hall of famers pre
salary cap and keep everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:12:37):
That's true, And OBOI you don't work for us too bad?

Speaker 5 (02:12:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:12:40):
Good right here?

Speaker 3 (02:12:42):
Oh that's cool, all right? And enjoy chopping one. Yeah,
I go to that lumberyard at that job. What you're
gonna get?

Speaker 2 (02:12:51):
Yeah, it's ninety. I mean, guys in the seventies.

Speaker 3 (02:12:56):
A weren't making great money and beat didn't have much flexibility.
I don't even know what it was like in the sixties.

Speaker 2 (02:13:02):
M hmmm. A lot of injury, playing through injury, you know,
a lot of playing through injury, a lot of smoking
cigarettes on a Saturday and plan on a Sunday, a
lot of free love. Let's go to Larry and Galveston
on seven on a Hello, Larry, hey man.

Speaker 5 (02:13:17):
How are you doing good?

Speaker 10 (02:13:18):
Larry?

Speaker 2 (02:13:18):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (02:13:20):
Well, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 12 (02:13:22):
I've got some ideas about negotiations that hopefully are forthcoming
for the Astros.

Speaker 9 (02:13:36):
And I hope that Jim Crane.

Speaker 12 (02:13:41):
Is able to turn back the hands of time and
realize the time when he let Charlie Morton go.

Speaker 2 (02:13:49):
And Charlie has had.

Speaker 12 (02:13:52):
Four or five six years of pretty dead, gumb good
pitching year for the Braves and the Tampa Bay Rays.

Speaker 2 (02:14:05):
And other teams.

Speaker 12 (02:14:06):
And I would hope that he would do the same thing.

Speaker 9 (02:14:10):
I would hope that he would learn from that.

Speaker 12 (02:14:14):
And sign Framber Valdez to a five, six, seven year deal,
because Framer has won. He's gotten over, at least I
believe he has. He's gotten over his mental issues where

(02:14:36):
he'd get behind in the inning and then all of
a sudden he'd just blow up. And then the next
thing is is I hope that Jim Crane and Daniel
Brown will offer Jake Myers an extended kid track, because Jake.

Speaker 4 (02:15:03):
Myers is a.

Speaker 9 (02:15:08):
True good center fielder for the Astros.

Speaker 12 (02:15:13):
And you know, folks were calling for Myers' head back
when Dusty Baker was our manager, and Dusky said, hold on,
this guy's young, he's got all the potential in the world,

(02:15:34):
and he's going to do well. And guess what he
is doing well? And I want to see Jake in
an Astros uniform for a good long time. And as
far as Scott Morris with Jeremy Payna. When I heard
that this morning, I just fell over and I went, God, Almighty.

Speaker 2 (02:16:02):
All right, thanks Larry.

Speaker 3 (02:16:04):
I don't know if I would have got almighty on
Allen good gracious uh to the points I don't think
fromber is getting an offer.

Speaker 2 (02:16:14):
I just don't.

Speaker 3 (02:16:15):
There's been no signs of it. And again, people can
change their minds. There could be a conversation and be
had tomorrow. I mean, I'm but I'm going off of history,
and I'm going off of what teams do. Typically, when
you don't offer contracts in the final year, you let
them walk. Uh, Jake, it's got some arbitration years left.
I think, not a not a tremendous amount of service time.

(02:16:41):
But I mean, I look, Jake's is an elite center fielder,
but Jake's a very replaceable offensive position. I mean, you
could sign Jake to a new to a contract at
any point and you're not breaking the bank with him.

Speaker 10 (02:16:56):
You're not.

Speaker 2 (02:16:57):
You're not getting to get into a bidding war with
anybody for Jake Myers. Excuse me, I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (02:17:04):
Musicill drop tomorrow. He's signed with Scott Boris. You're gonna
feel like a fool.

Speaker 2 (02:17:08):
Is he really good? Do you think, Jake? I don't
want everybody wanted to Jake Myers. Scott bar Is gonna
be his number one client, baby, our one a.

Speaker 3 (02:17:18):
Jeremy Pagna, I mean, damn, how much time does Scott
Boris have now, Gwen went, remember when you sign with
Scott Boris, you do sign with Scott, but you're also
signing with his lieutenants as well. Yeah, people who get
the biggest contracts in baseball. But you know what I'm
saying is that you got the the second tier guys.
You're gonna be dealing with Mormon you can I don't know,

(02:17:39):
is I guess, can Jeremy call Scott Boris at three
o'clock in the morning. I wonder who is like the
lowest profile. I'm sure there's a lot of Scott Boris
clients that we just don't even know about. I guess
Louise g Ormey with Scott Borris, I signed a lot
of guys. Would Louise green Army like to be with
Scott Morris?

Speaker 2 (02:17:55):
Yes, just wondering. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:18:00):
It all depends. Do you go you call him and
he's like, now we're good? Does he get calls?

Speaker 2 (02:18:04):
Probably?

Speaker 10 (02:18:05):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:18:06):
Are you a new phone?

Speaker 1 (02:18:07):
Who it is?

Speaker 5 (02:18:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:18:08):
Very busy?

Speaker 10 (02:18:09):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:18:09):
How's how does how did this come about? With Jeremy Paine?

Speaker 5 (02:18:11):
Right?

Speaker 3 (02:18:11):
Did the does the Boris group reach out to him?
Is that collusion? I mean, what what I'm curious the
internet eyes. My thought would be probably there was an
expiration of a contract.

Speaker 2 (02:18:22):
That you can't you can't, you can't go. I mean
there could be informal poaching.

Speaker 3 (02:18:27):
Yeah, and trust me, I don't even know who the
prior representation was of Jeremy Paine, but if it was
somebody that was currently under contract and all of a
sudden he breaks it, then maybe there.

Speaker 2 (02:18:36):
Could be through the players like Scott Boris like, hey,
who's a ask you boy, Jeremy, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (02:18:41):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (02:18:42):
I would one hundred percent believe that. Real quick, before
we get to believe it or not, let's talk to
Randy on seven on A Hello, Randy, Oh you sir, Matt, yes.

Speaker 1 (02:18:50):
Real quick, but but uh yeah, I don't think the
Astros do business with Scott Boris.

Speaker 9 (02:18:54):
You know, I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:18:56):
I'm not sure whose two V's agent is.

Speaker 9 (02:18:59):
But it's.

Speaker 2 (02:19:01):
They do they have They have two clients.

Speaker 3 (02:19:03):
They have two Borius clients on their roster that are
under contract, Lance mccullors and jose Aale TV.

Speaker 4 (02:19:10):
Okay, what's possible.

Speaker 1 (02:19:11):
It's very possible.

Speaker 5 (02:19:12):
We shall see.

Speaker 1 (02:19:13):
But real quick, Matt, what do you think about the
KD tree. You think there's more pluses than than negatives
on that tree, the KD tree for the Rockets, what
do you.

Speaker 5 (02:19:20):
Think about that?

Speaker 2 (02:19:21):
Significantly more positives? Thank you for the phone called, Yeah,
significantly more positives there, They're no deal is fool proof
if if Kevin can't play, I mean, I don't think
it's about scoring.

Speaker 3 (02:19:32):
To me, I don't think you lose your shooting touch
now at some point he might. To me, it's about
health and being available, not in November, December, January. It's
about being available in April, May, June, right, yes, and
doing something well, there's this guy that needs to be
an elite scorer and being an elite outside throughout the
Rockets didn't half come playoff time.

Speaker 2 (02:19:55):
And the moment. It's never gonna be, never too big
for Kevin Durank. Kevin Durant. All he does is provide
big shots in big moment. Yes, so that's what I
would say.

Speaker 3 (02:20:03):
But yeah, the biggest negative would be not that he
wouldn't show up, not that he wouldn't play hard, not
that he wouldn't give it us all. But you know,
everybody's a pulled hammy, a pulled quada, acl and Achilles.

Speaker 2 (02:20:15):
But probably a thirty seven year old higher risk, higher
risk than twenty three year old. Exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:20:20):
All right, Believe It or Not is up next seven
one three, two, one two five seventy We ever come
up with a category today?

Speaker 5 (02:20:26):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:20:27):
Is it highly googleable? Not really?

Speaker 3 (02:20:29):
It's Scott Morris, Scott Boris. Let's just say I might
have a lot of knots coming in. All right, Scott Boris.
Believe It or Not is up next, one forty six
on Sports Talk seven unty.

Speaker 2 (02:20:37):
Five minutes up to go on the show. What should
we do? We should play.

Speaker 3 (02:20:46):
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Speaker 2 (02:20:50):
We simply called it b Believe It or Not? In
Here's how it works.

Speaker 3 (02:20:53):
You call seven one three two one two five seven
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Speaker 2 (02:21:00):
Today's edition of Believe It or Not?

Speaker 3 (02:21:01):
It is all things about Scott Boris, our regious statement
about Scott statements, completely and utterly accurate.

Speaker 2 (02:21:06):
You'll say this, believe it If the statement's ronis football
com made up?

Speaker 3 (02:21:10):
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(02:21:31):
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Speaker 2 (02:21:37):
John on sevenin a You're ready to play, believe it
or not?

Speaker 5 (02:21:41):
I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (02:21:42):
Scott Boris is a legal background and did not play
baseball beyond the high school level.

Speaker 2 (02:21:46):
Believe it or not?

Speaker 5 (02:21:49):
Not?

Speaker 2 (02:21:49):
That is correct.

Speaker 3 (02:21:50):
You played college ball and in the minor leagues. Statement
number two for the win in the minor league, Scott
Boris hit two ninety three and four years of single
and double a baseball Believe it or.

Speaker 2 (02:21:59):
Not ninety three. I believe that you should congratulations, nicely done,
Chris on seven ninety. You're ready to play, believe it
or not?

Speaker 5 (02:22:09):
Believe it.

Speaker 3 (02:22:10):
According to the website Celebrity Networth, Scott Boris is worth
about four.

Speaker 2 (02:22:14):
Hundred and fifty million dollars. Believe it or not?

Speaker 1 (02:22:18):
Not?

Speaker 2 (02:22:19):
He is I've said a one set on a thousand times.
You don't know how much a certain age is worth.

Speaker 3 (02:22:24):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety seven
one three two one two five seven ninety Brian on
seven ninety what was your favorite part of today?

Speaker 2 (02:22:32):
He's send the two radio show I.

Speaker 1 (02:22:34):
Love Brad Felling again at got feeling.

Speaker 3 (02:22:39):
Scott Boris has two doctoral degrees, a Doctor of pharmacy
and a jurist doctor from the University of Pacific.

Speaker 2 (02:22:45):
Believe It or not?

Speaker 5 (02:22:47):
Not?

Speaker 2 (02:22:48):
That is accurate. He's a pharmacy.

Speaker 5 (02:22:52):
Reh.

Speaker 3 (02:22:52):
No, it's good to have good friends in the pharmacy business.
Let's go to Jimmy in the Heights. Jimmy on seven.
You're ready to play Believe It or not?

Speaker 13 (02:23:02):
Believe it.

Speaker 3 (02:23:02):
Scott Boris appeared as himself in the twenty ten sports
betting film Two for the Money, starring Al Pacino and
Matthew McConaughey.

Speaker 2 (02:23:10):
Believe It or Not Believe It? No, he wasn't in
the show. No very busy.

Speaker 3 (02:23:17):
Let's go to Roger on seven ninety Roger, You're ready
to play Believe It or Not? Scott Boris's first MLB
client was his University Pacific teammate Rob Sparring.

Speaker 2 (02:23:29):
Believe it or not? Believe it No, I don't know
who Rod Sparing is. That's something made up, dude. No,
he did go to Pacific.

Speaker 3 (02:23:38):
Oh, believe it or not? Rob or Scott Boris's favorite
superhero Aquabit.

Speaker 2 (02:23:43):
No, that was the part of it.

Speaker 3 (02:23:45):
Let's go to Josh on seven NINTI, Josh, you're ready
to play Believe it or not? Josh, Josh is not ready.
Let's go to Brian on seven Honnie, Brian, you're ready
to play.

Speaker 2 (02:23:57):
Believe it or not?

Speaker 9 (02:23:58):
I am got cut off her.

Speaker 3 (02:24:00):
Boriscorp dot com list. Scott boris hobbies is fishing, playing golf,
and traveling.

Speaker 2 (02:24:06):
Believe it or not?

Speaker 5 (02:24:08):
I believe it.

Speaker 2 (02:24:09):
No, you shouldn't.

Speaker 5 (02:24:10):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (02:24:10):
I think he just likes to count his money.

Speaker 3 (02:24:13):
Josh on seven ninety you ready to play Believe it
or not? Let's go Scott Boris met his wife, Michelle
Walt University Pacific, where she was a cheerleader.

Speaker 2 (02:24:21):
Believe it or not?

Speaker 5 (02:24:25):
Believe it?

Speaker 2 (02:24:25):
No, we told you a lot of knots. Today. Ross
is under pressure. He had to do a lot of knots.
It's harder to make things up it is. It's easier
to tell the truth. We tell the truth on the show.

Speaker 3 (02:24:37):
Have a great rest of your day. I'll talk to
you for Astros baseball at six up. Next, Waxland and
Clinton Withity on Sports Talk seven ninety