Rockets Win 4 Straight, De'Aaron Fox Trade? Astros Looking To Add, Texans Are Interviewing

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yeah, lunchtimers, this is the Matt Thomas.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Show, ten oh two of the am A good morning, Houston, and.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Welcome in to a Wednesday edition of The Man Thomas Show.
With Ross tries.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
To get five man please the dotted circle. He lost
the basketball. That's the steal. Jack Landel too is left
for a man Thompson. Thompson's gonna go down the lane
with a two hand flush and a basket. Gives a
Rockets the lead at thirty five. Thirty one keeps that
left PIVD foot still apparently, and he throws a pass
right in the hands of him and Thompson. It's a
three on two break Thompson right side and a thro

(00:37):
rowdown for Jalen Green and a time out to Atlanta.
Rockets take advantage of an Atlanta mistake and turn it
into a Jalen Green. James Landell's gonna set a screen
Green to the left, goes around it at the top
of the key two to pass out to Fred. Pump
fakes nearly walk gets by Young on the trail that
Jay Shawn Tan He'll laying in for two extra pass

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beautifully done that time by Fred. He's seventy to sixty four,
Houston a six point lead if giving it back to
a Congo and then on the handoff, it's a holiday
steal in front.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
Here goes jay Sean Tat.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
He'll cham it down with two hands.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Atlanta sixteenth turnover, twenty one Houston points soft the Atlantamus
six ten point nine seconds.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Remaining on the sideline.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
A man Thompson inbound, gotta hurry lobs in the back
courts of amblee with nine seconds Lobs at left side.
Janeen Green gets across the timeline right to Thompson inside
the shandun He's gonna flush it down with two hands,
two point eight seconds left to go.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yoh yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:38):
A play is play if we ride.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
On them things.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Are you paying attention yet? Street seats? Are you on
the bandwagon?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
There's plenty of room. The Houston Rockets welcomed it to
Atlanta by the Hawks, and while they thanked them as
they got out of there with the win, one to
ninety six, the Houston Rockets dare I say own the
Eastern Conference? They beat the Cleveland Cavaliers, the one seed

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two games in a row, then't they beat the Celtics
And while the Hawks are like in the play in
spot at number nine, but they're around five hundred. It
was on the road, it was the second half of it,
back to back. You can give some credit for the
Rockets getting the one hundred to ninety six victory to
continue to improve their record. You're thirty two and fourteen now,
a game and a half plus the tiebreaker ahead of

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the Memphis Grizzlies for the number two spot in the
Western Conference. Yes, we're almost into February. Yes, we're talking
about the Rockets in the two spot in the West. Hello,
and welcome into the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. Without
Matt Thomas, I'm your host, Ros Virial. Chris Gordy is
stuck in this elacious traffic that we had. It's getting

(02:50):
slippery and wet out there, and well a lot of
you people don't know how to act when it gets
slippery and wet. And yes, I'm talking about the roads.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I see you.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Getting ready to clip that Connor mcgovernance here. That's okay,
all right up for now, whenever Chris Gordy can get here,
it's just me and I will be joined by Adam
Klant later on. Chris Gordy We've got news at noon,
We've got shut Yobamba ass up slash. Ain't nobody got
time for that. I'm also battling a cold, so it's
gonna be a fun one on a Wednesday here on
Sports Talk seven Ory. What I'm trying to say is

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I need your help. If you'd like to get in
call talk some Rockets ball with me. We're also, of course,
gonna talk about what the Astros got going on, the
latest from Dana Brown, all that good stuff. Phone lines
open at seven one three. If you hear me turn
my microphone off, I'm gonna give you a little inside radio.
That's probably me coughing because I'm battling through it, but
we're gonna make it. Seven one three two one two

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five seven ninety is the phone number if you would
like to get in. Seven to one three, two one
two five seven ninety. Matt Thomas is traveling with the Rockets.
I believe they're in the air now or they're gonna
be in the air very soon, on their way to
Memphis to try and sweep the season series. I mean,
before this road trip that the Rockets were on, even

(04:01):
though I've been buying in for them for a couple
of weeks, I've been telling you that this is real.
This is who they are, point differentials, net raiding and
bottom line wins and losses, and just the seeing eye test,
any test you want to go to. This has looked
like the legit real Rockets in the last a few weeks,
maybe even more than that. And even though I was

(04:22):
buying into them, I was still talking thinking in my
head like four game road trip, one seat of the East,
two seats of the East, playoff team in the East,
and then the Grizzlies, who are the three seat in
the West. Fifty five hundred sounds good. Two and two,
be competitive, don't get blown out by anybody. By the way,
it's gonna be four games and six nights as well.

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Last night was their third game in four nights, which
has certainly been a problem for the Rockets in the
last couple of years. And it was a problem. It
wasn't like the Hawks were a walkover. Rockets had a
lead and then the Hawks got close in the end
of that game last night. But they continue to win
in different ways with different players, Amen Thompson being one

(05:05):
of them. But it's not like he was spectacular last night.
He only had eleven points, but Jalen Green came up
big despite going one of nine from three. He was
getting to the basket and he had twenty five points
and he was explosive. So three points shooting not there
for Jalen Green lately, and that was basically going to
come down to earth because he was shooting like fifty
percent from three over like a nine eight game stretch.

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So he's only two for his last fifteen from three.
It hasn't been going down like it was during that
I mean nine straight game stretch of twenty plus points.
So that's okay. He's not going to shoot fifty percent
from three for the rest of the season. And if
you were expecting that, well, I'm going to tell you
that you're higher, You're crazy. He can still get to
the basket, he can still be aggressive, he can still

(05:47):
be effective, and we saw that last night. The Rockets
don't win if Jalen Green isn't doing what he did
last night. He had twenty five of their one hundred
points quick math, that's twenty five percent. So that was
great to say from Jalen Green on a night before
against the Boston Celtics where it was all Dylan Brooks,
and it was all Aman Thompson, Dylan Brooks tying a

(06:08):
franchise record with like three or four other players at
this point, it was who is it James Harden Chandler Parsons,
maybe one other hitting the ten ten to three pointer
mark for the Rockets in a franchise record, and Amen
Thompson doing his thing with like thirty three points and
just all over the place. And that's the beauty of
the men Thompson and what he can bring. And he's

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getting a lot of praise from a lot of national
NBA guys. The league is on notice of what he
is capable of, how lightning quick he is, how fast
he is, the high motor he has, the energy, plays
with the seemingly infinite energy that he can play with.
Oh just about never looks tired out there.

Speaker 7 (06:47):
Ought to be young again.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
And he's getting steals, he's getting blocks, he's just doing
it all. Got a couple of assists last night as well.
And this is just a more and more looking like
a complete team because on nights where it looks like
they don't have it, on nights where there are key
pieces to this team not performing, they are still winning.

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Against the Celtics two nights ago. Alprinsham Gon, Jalen Green
and Fred Van Vliet were all horrible shooting from the floor.
And you would say, on the road against the Celtics,
three of your five starters are having horrible evenings, you've
got no chance in winning. Well, they had a chance
and they won that game. Same thing.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Last night.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
They went seven for thirty from three on the road
on a back to back against a decent Atlanta Hawks team.
They won the game. They're winning games when they are
not at their best. That's when I start to feel
like a team is really really good. Same thing, Like
I'll make an analogy. We interviewed Hunter Brown at the

(07:48):
Astros fan fest over the weekend. He had a start
against Toronto at like the beginning of July where he
was struggling to find his fast well and I actually
wanted to talk to him about it, but we didn't
have time. And you know, you only get so many
questions with a guy. He GE's not like you can
sit down with him for an hour. And during that start,

(08:08):
it was like, man, Hunter Brown doesn't have his best stuff.
He's all over the place, couldn't find his fastball. For
six innings. Dude threw six shutout. That's when I was like,
Hunta Brown's a real deal, because that's what great pitchers do.
They can't find their best stuff, they still find a
way to battle and go out there and compete and win.
And that's what the Rockets have been doing really the

(08:28):
last couple of nights, where they haven't been playing their
best basketball, they're beating really good teams. So now they're
thirty two and fourteen, there's still the number two seed
in the West. Still would like them to finish in
the top four. There are full four games ahead of
the Denver Nuggets right now, who've lost a couple in
a row, and then I mentioned a game and a
half ahead of the Memphis Grizzlies plus the tiebreaker, so

(08:49):
effectively two and a half games ahead of them. If
they could somehow just hold onto this thing and be
the two seed, that would be extremely impressive. But right now,
my top four and the Rockets are impressing me. Are
you watching? Are you paying attention? Are you getting on
the bandwagon? It's been pretty fun stuff watching your Houston Rockets.

(09:10):
What else are you doing right now? Super Bowl's not
on for a couple of weeks. Spring training doesn't get
started for a couple of weeks, and there's not gonna
be real baseball until April, basically, So how about some
Rockets basketball. Seven to one three two one two five,
seven ninety is the phone number if you'd like to
get in on that. Seven one three two one two five,
seven ninety. We're also going to talk about the Astros

(09:31):
and the latest and what's going on with that. Dana Brown,
Alex Pregman, jose Al Twove. We're puting them in left field.
We're putting theim in center, we're putting them in right
We're putting him in the eighth inning role. I don't
know what we're doing, Hosel Twove. We can talk about that.
And there's the NFL news as well, a lot of
stuff to get to here on the Matt Thomas Show
with Ross without Matt Thomas, Chris Gordy joining as we

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go along, Shut Joe Bump ass Up is coming up
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one two five seven ninety.

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This system Matt Thomas Show with Ross on Sports Talk
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Speaker 2 (10:07):
Ten eighteen in the Am Here on Sports Talk seven
ninety Welcome back to the program, Ross Viria with you.
It is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross Today without

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Matt Thomas, he is traveling with your Houston Rockets. Chris
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that slash Shut your bum ass up. That's our favorite
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Speaker 3 (10:54):
It's coming up at eleven thirty here on Sports Talk
seven ninety so. Mention the Rockets elite in the last
segment because well, they've been playing very well and they
just continue to surprise.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
They continue to just play up to this level, and
I guess maybe it's not a surprise, not a surprise
for the Rockets and the people inside that building. We
had Ruffell or I'm sorry, it was Emo Doka. Basically
at the midway point of the season, he was asked,
how would you assess and he's like, ah, that's pretty good.
We can do better and I was like, oh geez,
of course he always wants this higher level of play.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
This is the demanding.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Coach that the Houston Rockets have, but he also has
the respect of the player. And that's what a big
part of the success that the Rockets have had is
they have this coach that is no nonsense. And in
twenty twenty five, it's very hard to be no nonsense
as a coach. It's also very hard to do it
at the professional level where you have guys making thirty
Fred van Vliet's making forty five million dollars a year.

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He didn't have to take any guff from anybody. But
Emo Doka is somebody who is kind of a hard edged,
no nonsense type of coach, but he's played the game
before or and most importantly, he has the respect of
his players, and that's why it's able to work. Hey, Chris,
Chris has Chris, I'm sorry. I'm coming down with a cold.

(12:13):
I didn't get great sleep. My brain has been half
functioning this morning, and apparently there's a lot of traffic
out there.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
Yeah, it's going around. The life is sick, and she
wanted me to go get her a COVID slash flu
test at CVS. I went and there for twenty four
ninety nine. They were completely sholt sold out. The whole
shelf was gone. I'm like, first off, why do you
need that? What does it matter? What you have? Just
take meds based on what your symptoms are. Why do

(12:39):
you need well?

Speaker 7 (12:39):
Is it the flu?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Or is a COVID? Who cares?

Speaker 6 (12:41):
Just if your congested takes up for congestion, if your
body ache takes up for body agges? Like, I don't
know why you have to.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Know what it is, but I I don't know.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
Anyway, I digress, but no, I look, it's and I'm
just being real here, like it's awesome what the Rockets
are doing. But I'm like, lately I've just been I've
been like tune in the fourth quarter kind of guy.
I't I haven't been watched. And I don't know why
that is. Because the James Harden years it was must set.

(13:12):
I was in my couch watching from first quarter all
the way to fourth court every night. I don't know
what it is. Maybe this team they're they're building my trust.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Okay, maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
I think a lot of casual fans of town it's
like they're built. They're they're building that for you.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
I think maybe a lot of people were there and
a lot of people tune out to basketball for whatever reason.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
Post Super Bowl. Like you, when you turn the calendar
of February.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
There's football all night.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
I know, but that's just saying like people are still
in football mode. My friend called me last night. The
first thing he brings up, dude, whose Texas gonna get
his OC? I'm like, why do you care? Like it's
that I played a game until September? Like, wait, what
does it matter who.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
The OC is.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, we can go on OC watch and we will,
but it's like, to me, nothing else is going on.
I'm a basketball fan, so I understand I'm in the
minority on this.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
I am too, but like I don't again, like I
think it was just those those down years. They lost
a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
And I think if you don't watch the first three
quarters of the Houston Rockets, you can miss a lot.
I mean, Thompson is doing crazy stuff on any given possession.
Dylan Brooks is extremely fun. Jalen Green when he's getting
to the back, I mean, he is extremely fun to watch.
He's it's more fun to watch when he's actually making
his threes, which he did last night he was one
for nine. But he does incredible athletic things on a

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night in, night out. Basis same thing for Cam Whitmore
and some other guys on this team. Albrn Schinggoon to
me is a treat to watch when he works down
on the low post and good watch.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 6 (14:38):
It's like, like, I think we just became conditioned when
Harden was here. It was musty TV every night you
had to tune in and see what Harden was gonna do.
I think we're just most of the casuals still finding
their way with this team, like, oh, we know they're awesome.
We know there's no face of the franchise, although I'm
in Thompson slowly.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Be coming out.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, there's no face of the franch But I just
mentioned all those guys that are really fun and there's
a style of basketball that they play, the defensive force
that they play with it to me, I really appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
I flipped over to NBA tn T when I was
getting in bed last night and it was with the
Bucks Blazers had just finished yeah, and they were it
was it was poetic Right when I put it on,
it was whatever the crew. It wasn't the normal Shack
and Kenny Crue. It was the Beat team with like
Canvas Parker and whoever. But you know what they said.
First thing it brought up, guys, we got to talk
about these Houston Rockets. They are legit. I mean it was,

(15:32):
and so it was cool to see that on a
national platform. Thank god people giving starting to give them
some love.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
That's great because normally that show just likes to make
fun of everyone and tell everybody that they're trash and
they're not good so bad.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
When it's back to Barkley and Shack, Yes they will,
they'll do that. I mean nothing epitomizes that show more
than when Christian Wood was tearing up for the Rockets.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, Chack goes, uh, have to forgive me. I was
not familiar with your game.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
It's like, I've been in the league for three years,
you don't know. And we were talking about that with
Matt yesterday. It's like, how many Houston Rockets can Charles
Barkley name? Now the number has probably gone up in
the last few weeks. You can probably get Aimn Thompson.
But a month ago. Was he naming him in Thompson?
Probably not. And these are the guys and the show
has been great for years and years and years, but
to me, they completely lost their fastball. And it's just

(16:20):
the analysis went from lazy to extremely lazy, and nonchalance
to almost indifference of their own sport. Because they go
out there, they make you fun, in fun of each other.
Charles and Shack threaten to fight each other three times
a show and we all get our laughs off and
they get the viral moments. But there's just there's just
no substantive basketball analysis.

Speaker 6 (16:42):
Well, this is a big one coming up Thursday night
because it's Memphis. You have a chance to sweep the
Memphis Grizzlies. On the season, you're three to zero against them,
and they're not going away. Man, They're nipping at your
heels still. Just a game and a half back in
the standings. You know, you're you're five and a half
behind the thunder. It's gonna be hard to catch them.
But I mean, you're you're kind of you're kind of

(17:04):
settled into that two spot as long as you keep
playing good basketball. But you know, if the Grizzlies win,
you still hold the head to head against them season.
Why but man, what what a confidence or confidence booster
it would be to say you went four to oh
against the third best team in the in the West.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Is it a must win game Thursday night? Okay? But God,
think about it.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
If they win, they close the gap, what they get
within a They're they're a game and a half behind
you right now. They would close it to less than
a less than a game behind you.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah yeah, but yeah, like you said, they have the tiebreaker,
they've already won three oh so uh, we'll see how
it goes from there. But it's been fun, it's been entertaining.
I understand that people are slow going, but I've seen it.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
It's not all gonna happen at once, Like the building's
not gonna be completely full. We're not gonna have full
boards of rockets calls all at once. And even when
James Harden was in his heyday, it's and we've been
the partner of the Houston Rockets for a long long time.
It wasn't like they were taking over the city. But
to me, like I said, football is basically over. You're
not getting into baseball until April. I would say, pay

(18:04):
attention to Little Rockets ball. It's fun, the defense is good,
they play physical, they're getting the scraps nearly every night.
You got you got Dylan Brooks and Trey Young last
night getting uh getting technicals as well as Trey Young
comes up and tries to body up on Dylan Brooks,
so Dylan Brooks touches him in the back of the
head and they get uh technical fouls. So it's it's

(18:25):
almost every single night. And and to me, there are
a lot of fun angles with this team and the
way that coach Imy Doka coaches with this no nonsense
type of attitude. I feel like it's something that the
city of Houston should get on board with.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
Are you team stan pat at the trade deadline? Because
we saw yesterday what Darren Fox is official.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Trust the process Dean Frooks for who Fred van Vliet?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Then who's your primary ball handler? I mean Thompson. They
don't want Fred van Vliet, I know, no, no, they're
gonna want his his his deal is expiring, so you'd
have a bunch of money coming off the.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
Book, right, but they're gonna also want.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
A yeah, then a bunch of yeah, then a bunch
of I don't even know Cam Witmore and a bunch
of picks. I'm not exactly sure what they're gonna want
to where they're gonna get. I don't think Dearon Fox
is gonna be here in Houston. Yeah, I think they're
gonna trust the process.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
On teams, stay the course, Like I just did this.
You sucked for so long and Ernie's drop top draft picks,
and you scouted these players and you got them. Look
that's the old Darryl Morey way of thinking, right, like
we what star can we get next to Harden? You know,
like that was our thought process for a decade. Here
that's changed. You sucked, You built this up stick with

(19:32):
these guys. Deeron Fox is a big name, yes, Jimmy
Butler is a big name, yes, but kind of over
the big What if we learned ross the big names, don't, Like,
that's not what gets you over the hump?

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yes it is. Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown were home grown. They drafted them,
developed them and built around them. Dan Let's flip Jason
tATu for Anthony Davis, Like.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, Kristaps Porzingis and Drew Hilliday and whoever else they
have on that team. They weren't home grown. Let's see
who won the championship before that?

Speaker 8 (20:04):
Was it?

Speaker 6 (20:04):
The Denver?

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Denver?

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, they draft their thing, Yeah, the thing. Aaron Gordon
was a free agent, but what Jamal Murray did they
draft him? I think so, I'm just saying the days
of the we need a big three.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
That's kind of that's kind of ended.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Right, I don't. It wouldn't hurt.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
So you've you're fine flipping some of these young guys
that you've built to go into panty Butler.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
No, no, not Jimmy No, I didn't say that.

Speaker 6 (20:27):
Or Aaron Foss.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I mean the guys who were I didn't say that either.
Sign But it takes star power to win. If you
don't have stars, you don't win. What's the last thing
to win? These guys are stars. Yeah, exactly, somebody needs
to Who's an All Star right now?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
None of them.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
They're about to have zero All Stars, I think, unless
they're gonna get injury replacements. Alprinchching Goon hasn't played well
enough to be an All Star in my opinion. Jalen
Green's being too inconsistent be an All star, and I
mean Thompson's come on too late to be an hot
So when.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
Boston first started Jason Tatum, the thought process was he's
a really nice player, but he's not an All star yet.
That was that was the early days when he was
like twenty and the same thing with Jalen Brown, and
then it developed. These guys are still developed.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah they can develop.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
I'm in the tops of turns what twenty two?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
This week? The only person I said to trade away
was Fred van Vliet. Okay, like he's a he's a
guy who's he might not even be here next year.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
Anyways, they want because they're gonna go, give me Cam
Whitmore and Jalen Green with Fred, and we'll make that.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
You can't even trade Jalen Green right now because of
his They just resigned into him.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
In an extension. So they want one of the young up.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
And yeah, that's why I don't think any of this
is gonna happen. It's just not feasible. So I mean,
we'll see. And you look at dearon Fox. I mean
he can't shoot threes and he scores like twenty four
to twenty five points per game.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
That's what you got for Jalen Green right now.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
So, yeah, he's a name, but my point is like
it's not all just about a name, like we need
we need players. Chemistry is big, and he may's got
chemistry going right now.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, chemistry is big, but star players is how you win,
and you need those guys to be on your team
one way or the other, either internal growth or external acquisition.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
All right.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Seven one three two one two five, seven ninety is
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We got a lot of stuff to get to shut
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A log ahead of that Matt Thomas Show Sports Talk
seven ninety that's out today. Chris Gordy here with Ross
with Ross Connor mc governing here as well as we've
been talking a little bit on your Houston Rockets when
they're fourth in a row. Last night out in Atlanta
one hundred to ninety six. Got a little harry there
late down the stretch, but Rocket's able to pull it out.

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And now they'll had two Memphis Tomorrow nights where they'll
take on the third in the West, Memphis Grizzlies, right
behind the Rockets in the standings. It's it's a weird schedule.
Rock Coults come back home Saturday for a quick win
against Brooklyn here in Toyota Center, and it's back out
of the road for four more Yeah, New York, Brooklyn, Minnesota, Dallas,

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and then home for a four game home stamp.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
They're in a stretch of four games and six nights
in four different cities and then they're gonna do the
same thing after one game at home for the Brooklyn.
This is this has been like kind of on my
radar for a while as a tough stretch for the Rockets,
and so far they're three and freaking out.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
Yeah, and they played, by the way, five games next week.
I can't remember the last time the Rockets played five
games in a week. That's the old days of the
back to backs, and like, yeah, I mean the NBA
used to.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Be going on Barnes Storming tours in the nineteen sixties,
and we're gonna be in Houshey, Pennsylvania, and then we're
going to Columbus, Ohio, and we're going to New York
for two games.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
Like go back to look at games five, six, seven
years ago. They used to do teams dirty. They're like, Okay,
you're gonna be in Portland tonight. The next night you're
gonna be in LA. Like okay, it's exactly like a
quick flight from Portland down to LA. And then it's like,
you know, and you're playing with guys and then like, oh,
don't rest anybody. We're gonna find you of your rest people.
It's like, it's a long season. Man, it takes a toll.
But Rockets at thirty two and fourteen, it's just it's

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been fun ross to see a lot of national people
starting to write about the Rockets, starting to say, hey pants,
it's these Houston Rockets. They're pretty good. I saw a
thread online it's ad the return of the Rockets. So
good to see them get some love. Yeah, we'll see
where they go in the playoffs, how far they go.
A lot of season left still as it is.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
And anything canna happen, and it's terms of injuries and
stuff like that, but they're the real deal and they
I mean, how could you not believe that they're at
least a threat, at least a legit type of cagey
underdog that can maybe win a series against just about anybody.
They get hot from three, they can beat anybody because

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the defense is that good and they score that much
from the paint. They get a lot of easy baskets
with outbrnching goon down the low and I'm in Thomson
and Jalen Green slashing. So to me, the key and
the catalyst for this renaissance that they've been on where
they've been winning all these games has been the three
point shooting and how much it hasn't improved, But it
wasn't great last night and they still got to win,
so they can still win in any number of different ways.

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And that's why it's been so fun for me.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
Yeah, seven one three two on two five seven nineties,
the number seven one three two on two five seven ninety.
Let's suck the biscuit.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Biscuit. What's going on?

Speaker 6 (25:21):
Man?

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Hey, Greg?

Speaker 9 (25:23):
What's happening to my brothers? Hey? Who are you kind
of you kind of surprised me.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Man, what's up?

Speaker 10 (25:31):
You're surprised me because I would have thought you would
have been an opposite of Stan Pat guy.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
No, I just I think you worked too You sucked
too hot, too long, you work too hard to build
up this core. I'm not ready to just trade them
away for a a potential other name player that could
end up coming in here and being a diva. I mean,
that's that's the reality of it. I mean, the the
Jimmy Butler stuff is not fully it's just a problem

(25:58):
with Miami. I think he's being a little bit of
a diva too. And after what would hard and all that,
I'm kind of done with the diva's biscuit. I like
the kids. I like the twenty year old that that
E is disciplined with, Like I kind of want to
stand pat with these guys well.

Speaker 10 (26:13):
But but the Aaron Fox is not a diva. And
That's where I'm going, Gordon, That's where I'm going. And
in any organization, if you can get better, why when
you do it?

Speaker 9 (26:24):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (26:25):
And now you have to have a certain amount of
players that you say are untouchable and for me on
the Rockets, the untouchables are Green, Sangoon and Thompson, but
the other guys, if we can get better at the
point guard position and ross.

Speaker 9 (26:43):
You watch a lot of games this year.

Speaker 10 (26:44):
One of the areas where the Rockets have an issue
and they still and they had one last night is
closing out games. Now, who led the NBA and clintch
points last year is the Aaron Fox. That is a
perfect match. I'm count on you, Gordy. It's a perfect match.
And he's young and he's not old, and he's not
a demon. And if you can get better and you

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give up, say you got to give up Van Fleet
to make the money match, so that's obviously gonna be
the point, then maybe you have to give up with
more because with more right now is the ninth player,
so he might not play no way, So I wouldn't
have a problem give him up with more, and then
you got all these actions as the draft picks. What
do you got him for if you're not gonna use

(27:28):
him to get something to come back, That's what I'm saying, Gordy. Now,
the money, that's what.

Speaker 9 (27:33):
The issue is.

Speaker 10 (27:34):
You don't want to get him and you can't extend him,
but if you can extend him at a reasonable rate,
you got to look into it, Gordy.

Speaker 9 (27:43):
You got to.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
Yeah, I mean again, what what is it gonna cost me?
And that that's that's the big, the big thing. I'm
not giving up Shangoon. I don't want to give up
Jabari Smith. I still think he's gonna develop into something
the Kim Whitmore I'm will explore. But again, you know,
do you want to lose Fred? I mean Fred, not
just what it gives you on the court, but off

(28:06):
the court, the veteran presence in the leadership. I just
he got something going here with the chemistry with him
and Dylan Brooks in that locker room. I just it's
a it's a big risk you're bringing Darren and all
his is just a player and not a leader.

Speaker 10 (28:21):
Let me say this, Gordy. And then you old school
old Richard Pryor saying you got it there to be rich.
Sometimes you got to take a risk, Gordy. And it's
are you telling me that you think van Fleet is
better than Fox?

Speaker 3 (28:35):
No?

Speaker 6 (28:35):
But but I'm saying he might be off the court,
he might be behind the scenes.

Speaker 10 (28:39):
Uh. In that, have you heard any rumblings about Fox
being a disc grownd guy and being a diva.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
Trade, Well there is that, but I've also.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
He's requesting a trade, so inherently there are grumblings. At
the minimum.

Speaker 10 (28:56):
Nine years of Sacramento will force you would, my lord
will make a trade. Come on, men, Rawls, you will
spend nine years in the Sacramento and deal with the
foolishnes that organization. Who I'm just saying, Rawls. If I'm
saying you gotta listen, I'm not saying you pulled a trigger.
But I'm just saying, man, if you could make the
team better, and I just lined it out Rocks, he's

(29:17):
a he's a clutch player in the four. We've seen
Jayalen Green turn the ball over two times in the
fourth yesterday.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, but well he's made some clutch baskets as well, Biscuit,
thank you. We got to get to a break here.
And the other angle to me on this cord he
is is if you could get dearon Fox. There's this
Fox article and they brought up Dylan Brooks, Read Shepherd
and Kim Whitmore for dearon Fox. I don't even know
if that just doesn't sound like a great term pack

(29:45):
against Kings, Dylan Brooks, reads Shepherd, Cam Whitmore for dearon
Fox and Kolbe Jones to make the money match. I
don't even know that they would do that number one number.
Talking about the King side, Uh, you might have to
throw in some picks because the Rockets do control a
lot of picks. But also the other angle of this,
one of the top destinations people have talked about him
is for san Antonio. How much do you want to

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get in those sweepstakes? Maybe you're not sure if it
helps you long term, even with Fred van Vliet going
away possibly Dylan Brooks, but how much do you want
to maybe try to keep him away from san Antonio?

Speaker 6 (30:17):
Yeah? I be just they suck. I don't care about
him going as san Antonio.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah, they suck right now.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
They have a horrible roster and they're still aware are
they in the West.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
They're still twenty and twenty three Wimby.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
If Wimby stays healthy, he's I mean, first of all,
he's got the talent of being an All Star every
single year. It's all about health with him. Yeah, but
I'm not it's over whether or not he's gonna be
Some people are like, oh, I don't know, he's too skinny,
He's not gonna be good. He's averaging twenty five and
eleven and leading the league in blocks. He's the real deal.
It's about health with him. If you get healthy years
with him, I did with that dynamic wing.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
I did. Like people tweeting the other night though, like
can you believe san Antonio had passed on Amen Thompson?

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yes, they did.

Speaker 6 (30:59):
Again, it's the the Wemby thing.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
But what if?

Speaker 6 (31:02):
What if two three years from now we look back
and I'm in Thompson is a better overall player than
whom No, the only way. No, you don't think that's possible.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Okay, it's possible. I don't think it's very likely.

Speaker 6 (31:14):
Like Webby's gonna fill up stats, He's gonna put up stats.
But I'm saying, like, better play.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
They're twenty and twenty three.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Have you seen their roster? Yes, crap exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
They got twenty wins and it's it's all win bin Yama.
The dudes, he's dropped fifty in a game. All right,
When a men Thompson drops fifty in a game, we'll talk.
You don't have to he's twenty five and eleven and
four blocks a game. Come on, I know we're in
Houston and we're Homers and we hate San Antonio and
Adam Klan is doing this too, but let's be real.
The dude is is a generational talent.

Speaker 6 (31:46):
Would you bank on he just is durability for him?

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Exactly? No.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
That's the only way I men Thompson will win is
because your best ability is your availability of course. So yeah,
if Wimby's body breaks, but you're praying on something that
we don't even know is gonna happen, you're predicting the
future as it is when he's on the floor, win
bin Yama. If we were redrafting the entire league right now,
he probably goes number one because of how young he
is and how well he can play. So, I mean,

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we just have to face facts here. I know we
hate the Spurs and we hate San Antonio. Let's be
real with ourselves, all right. Seven one three two one
two five seven ninety The phone number here on the
Matt Thomas Show with ross those of you, and hold
we'll get to you as well. We still got astros
texts and stuff to get to. Also talking some Rockets
at seven one three, two, one two, five, seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Matten Ross return return on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Continue on here.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
Sports Talk seven eighty the Matt Thomas Show that's out today,
Chris Gordy and with Ross, Veriel, Connor McGovern here as well.
Talk a lot of Rockets in the first hour of
the show. We'll get into some fotball talk along the way.
Texan's still on their offensive coordinator search, who will they hire?

(33:06):
Got some astros buzz as well as they are gearing
up getting closer to pictures and catchers reporting out there
in Florida. But your Rockets man rocking and rolling here
and then won four in a row. They'll play in
Memphis Thursday night, they'll come home for Brooklyn. Four more
on the road next week and sitting still as the
two seed in the West. It's crazy, Ross, if you'd

(33:27):
have gone back five six years ago and showed showed
me the standings, it was Oklahoma, Houston, Memphis as your
top three seeds. I mean, first off, the producers at
ESPN would have hemorrhaged because like, oh god, we don't
have the big markets. Where are the Lakers? Well brought
to the Lakers. They need to be up there.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
But yhow it's as you mentioned, Oklahoma City, Houston, and Memphis.
Would let's sprinkle some Denver in there as well. Yeah, which,
by the way, the Lakers are trying to beat my
fraud charges I put on them. They're still hanging tough
in the fifth spot. But they've been better. But I
still don't think they're one of the best teams and
certainly not a legitimate threat in the West, depending on

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what they do.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
Clippers hanging around to Clippers at the six seed. But
Minnesota's won three in a row, Phoenix has won three
in a row, think of the last ten yea, So
here they come, see I see if they could do
a little some By the way, Sacramento is one seven
of their last time.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Oh dearon, Fox is gonna stay ride it out, folks.
I do enjoy seeing the truss the process. I do
enjoy seeing the Warriors sitting there at five hundred. But
you know they'll be a pain in the butt for
somebody if they get in there dying game. It's over.
Turn out the lights, the party's over. Steph Curry.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
I feel bad for my buddies in New Orleans, it's
I saw there was a note there and I was like,
Zion Williamson will not play tonight, Like that's just a disaster.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
When's the last time he played?

Speaker 6 (34:47):
They spent all this money on him or how much?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Like he was a sophomore in high school and we
were watching mixtapes of his dunks on YouTube.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
They're they're injured like crazy, but they wouldn't got de
Jonte Murray, Like that was the big thing you have CJ. McCollum.
You had Trey Murphy's developed into a player. They have
all these really good pieces, but god, twelve wins on
the season twelve and thirty five and then Utah is
just a n abject disaster too. So it's it's nice.
It's nice to be here at the top of the

(35:17):
of the food chain. Now.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Oh, it looks like Zion has been playing a little bit. Well,
we had thirty one points in his last game.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Yeah, and then they how many minutes do you have?

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Oh, hold on, let me bring it up twenty seven? Yeah,
they bely keep it.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
They're like, you're too good.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Thirty minutes.

Speaker 6 (35:32):
Yeah, they're like, yeah, well that's I think they're at
that point now because if they if they go on
a run and win ten of twelve, what's that, doe,
It's still not going to get them in the.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah, they just be like, oh, we're putting them on
a limit restriction because of all the injuries suffered over
the years. So we're just got to keep an eye on.
Weren't they doing a to Zion like his his rookie year,
they were putting him on a minute restriction. I think
he's had leg issues since he first came into the league,
So that'll that'll certainly be something to keep an eye on.
Let's go out to the phone lines here. It's one three, two, one, two,
five seven ninety. Luis has been waiting patiently. Louis, the

(36:04):
floor is yours.

Speaker 11 (36:06):
Yes, good morning, guys. I agree that I don't think
we should be will be bringing one of those All Stars,
will wash out.

Speaker 12 (36:14):
They want to have the ballty on the last minute.
The one of the advantage that the Rockets have is
that at the last two minutes of the game.

Speaker 11 (36:20):
You don't know who's gonna score.

Speaker 12 (36:22):
And the Bottle game was a typical one. It was
not Ring, it was not Shandon he was it was Thompson.

Speaker 11 (36:31):
But I think we still need. I saw when when
Fleet was heard, I saw a little disorder in the
floor that was not a captain. I know that you
guys were talking about getting rid of on Fleet, but
still he still sees the guy who puts order in
the floor, Thompson. It still doesn't do it, but I
think he's still young to captain the whole thing. The

(36:53):
other part that I think we need is probably a
muscle in the paint. When when sham lolis is, I
still see that we can be manhandled. Adams has been
a polatier. Surprise. The last game is the man of
the middle, and we need a forward, a power forward. Hey,
it's really good, but he seems like as more forward,

(37:16):
more defense. But we need somebody that can go there
and just protect the paid and be a shot blocker.
I'm gonna hang up and listen to our problems listening.
But uh, thank you very guys.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Pretty good, all right.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Thank you, Luis. Yeah, look, Fred van Vliet is good.
The problem is you can't just trade away. You can't
get a dynamic player like dearon Fox and just give
away nothing. And Fred van Vliet has some value because
he's making forty three million dollars this year and that
completely comes off the books. And in the NBA because
of the soft cap, it's called a valuable expiring contract.

(37:49):
They call him VCS because if you're over the cap
and you you can get that money coming off the
books because it's fully, fully guaranteed contracts, that opens up
free agency money for you. And that's where the value
of Fred van Vliet would come. Absolutely, he fits very
well on this floor for the Houston Rockets, and he's
an important part of their offense. And when he goes away,

(38:11):
they turn the ball over a ton and they look
a little bit more disjointed on offense for sure.

Speaker 6 (38:17):
Yeah, but I do agree it is it is a
nice luxury to have that in the final in the
final minutes of a game, you don't know who's going
to be Who's going to be that guy, And it's
again it I hate to keep bringing it back to Boston,
but that's what like they were building in Boston.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
It was.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
It was a bunch of really good players who were
all kind of because remember what was the trades that day?
Was it the aftermath of the Paul Pierce Garnett stuff
where they got all those Brooklyn picks. Yes, and then
they and that's how they got Tatum and Brown.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
And Brooklyn traded every year, Brooklyn traded all their picks
for all those guys, and then they were just a disaster.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
Yeah, and you start to see signs, You're like, Boston's
really good, but like, are these guys got develop in
the superstars? And Jason Tatum absolutely has. You know, Jaylen
Brown has turned into a pretty big star. So you know,
it's I hate to keep making the parallels. And it
is funny. I mean, that's where he may was. But
you know, I think there's a I just keep saying

(39:16):
stay the course, Stay the course.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, I'm okay with that, but you but either way,
Fred van Vliet has a has a team option after
this year. You're going to opt into paying him forty
four million dollars.

Speaker 6 (39:26):
It's tough. Again, it's not just what he brings on
the course, where he brings off the court. By the way,
it should mention to Kelly Eco had to report yesterday's
say the Rockets will not be pursuing Deer and Fox
at the deadline. Yeah, that doesn't shock me, so that
that was his he said a court and his team sources.
So you know, but.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Things can change it.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I mean they could, but I would be as surprised
if if they were getting in the deer and fox
sweet sakes. I don't think it's something they should roundly dismiss.
Maybe look into it, but yeah, staying the course is
good here as well. All right, we're gonna take a
quick break. That's been a lot of rocket stock and
our number one of the Matt Thomas Show with Raw,
Chris Gordy is here. We got eight Noe body get
time for that slast shit Joe Bumass up coming up

(40:05):
at eleven thirty. Connor mc governor is here as well,
and we have you at seven one three, two one
two five seven ninety. Our number two begins with some
astros talk after the short break.

Speaker 7 (40:17):
Launchtimers. This is the Matt Thomas Show.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Eleven o two in the am here on Sports Talk
seven ninety Welcome back to the Matt Thomas Show with
Ross with Chris Gordy, later with Adam Clanton, but without
Matt Thomas as he is off doing fancy Matt things,
traveling with the Houston Rockets who won last night in
Atlanta that we'll be playing in Memphis tomorrow. There'll be

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another national T and T broadcast as the national prestige
or the awareness of the Houston Rockets continues to go
up and up. Phone lines open for you at seven
one three two one two five seven ninety seven one
three two one two five seven ninety So we've also
been talking about the Astros throughout this week with the

(41:05):
Alex Bregman deal, you know what I mean, really gotten
your thoughts on that, Gordio. Well, I guess we did
a little bit on the Crawford box Cast brought to
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for free on the I Heart Radio app. But are
you still Bregman to the Houston Astros A long shot?

Speaker 6 (41:23):
Yeah, I mean, I just the whole thing was they
were trying to get closer to below the first luxury
tax in dumping Ryan Presley. I just don't it would
just feel weird for them to turn right back around
and go and now we're gonna go back over it
and sign Alex Brugman to a big fat deal like

(41:44):
it just it feels weird, But they did do it.
What a year ago with the Josh Hater move put
the most they did.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
So it was also I mean in the wake of
the Graveman injury, where they was very apparent they were
gonna need some help in the back into the bullpen.

Speaker 6 (41:58):
Right, So, I don't know, I think this is this
is a Jim Crane Alex Bregman discussion on how bad
do you want him back? You know, does it how
much does it change that the market has kind of
it's not exactly thump and for him. I mean apparently
the Red Sox the in Detroit are still very much interested,

(42:19):
but neither is moving to a point of Oh, let's
let's up the let's up the ante here and let's
let's do what it takes to get him. So the
longer he sits out there and again, you know, taxes
in the state of Massachusetts way higher than state tax,
no state tax in state of Texas. You know, at

(42:41):
what point does it offset? At what point do you go, oh,
whatever the Red Sox would pay me, I would lose
anyway to the federal government, as opposed to just staying
in Houston where I already own a home, my kids already,
you know, like everything's here, you don't have to change anything.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Property taxes are pretty high though, you know, kind of
I don't know what kind of home he's got.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
Think in the loop he can move out the opens.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
The government gets their money one way or the other.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
There's not state income taxes here, but there's a high
I believe property taxes much higher than suffers changes by county.

Speaker 6 (43:09):
Right, Yeah, but anyway, so it's just I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
To me, it's it's a it's a Jim Crane decision.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
But I think ultimately they I think they're fine with
him moving on. I think that was the message that
was sent when they signed Christian Walker and made the
trade for Escoc Paratus, who we know they really liked.
Like message was said, we have filled our infield needs.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah, so let's go along with Dana Brown was speaking
yesterday after the Ryan Presley in a press conference basically
talking about trading him away. Bregman did come up, and
we're just gonna kind of piece this together here on
the show and go bit by bit with what Dana
Brown had to say about Bregman and the conversations.

Speaker 13 (43:49):
We've talked internally about, you know, him still being available,
and so we are definitely having conversations within our office.

Speaker 14 (44:01):
We haven't reached back out to Boris.

Speaker 11 (44:03):
So like that.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Okay, he said this on Saturday when we had him
on a fan fest. It's been internal discussions, internal discussions,
And now you have to ask yourself, why is Dana
Brown saying this out loud? Is that him kind of
saying like, yeah, we've been talking about it inside. Is
that him saying, look to me, it's up to Jim Crane.
Jim Crane wants to go over this tax threshold.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
It's his team. He can do it.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
So we've talked about it internally more than externally, rather
than we haven't we saying out loud, we haven't talked
to Scott. Boris is a choice to me by Dana Brown.
He doesn't have to provide that information, but he does, right, And.

Speaker 6 (44:40):
Look, we know we know how Boris operates. I mean,
he wants teams to get into a bidding war. He
wants to sit back and and rub his hands together
and go ha ha ha. But this thing is backfired
on him last year and this year. I mean last year,
how many of his clients we got spring training and
still bikes.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Now trum Montgomery said, shut you a bump ass up?

Speaker 6 (45:01):
Yeah, I mean they were the team teams are sending
a message.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Like the blanks now stayed the course and he got
a big deal this this year.

Speaker 6 (45:07):
He did, but he also had to go out there
and prove it. I mean, yeah, he proved the game.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
He was terrible to start the year, and he said
I'm never gonna do that ever again without having spring training.
Thanks and thanks for nothing, Scott Boris.

Speaker 6 (45:18):
But people I've talked to said, when the Wan Soto
deal happened with the Mets, remember we all said that's
the domino that's gonna fall and it's gonna start. Agency.
What I was sold by multiple people was no. The
reaction was, Oh, that's stupid money. We're not doing that. Yeah,
we're all gonna we're all gonna pull our uh whatever

(45:38):
our press strings. Yeah, closer to our chest and we're out.
We're not getting into these stupid bidding wars that these
agents want. So yeah, it's a really it's a tough
thing of like, just because somebody else did did a
stupid deal, doesn't mean I have to go do a
stupid deal. Doesn't mean this guy needs to do a
stupid deal. I think the owners are getting together, going Look,

(45:58):
just because the Dodgers and the Mets are doing stupid
things doesn't mean we all need to be stupid too.
So and thus you have Scott Boris looking for top
dollar for my client's sitting out there, going, well, we're
not paying top dollar, bro, Like we will, your client
will sit on his ass and wait for a phone
call because we're not paying that.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
That's basically what Dana Brown maybe said. He continues along.

Speaker 14 (46:21):
At some point it could it could turn to that.

Speaker 13 (46:24):
I know that we're taking a deep look at what
it would look like if we acquired him, and you know,
how would it look for us financially?

Speaker 14 (46:36):
Does it make sense to do it?

Speaker 13 (46:38):
You know, we know that he's a talented player, we'd
love to have him.

Speaker 14 (46:41):
But I would mostly say it's.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
All all gonna stop there. Doesn't that sound a little dismissive?
Like this has been one of the one of the
hearts and souls of this team for basically a decade
and one two world series, beloved by the This sounds
like Dana Brown talking about like some random left fielder
that they're looking at.

Speaker 14 (47:05):
Does it make sense to do it?

Speaker 13 (47:07):
You know, we know that he's a talented player, we'd
love to have him, But he's.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
A talent player we love to have him. Seems kind
of dismissive to me.

Speaker 6 (47:16):
I mean, he's been a two sixty hitters the last
three years.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
He is about with power, all right, mister batting average guy.
What are we in nineteen thirty three. He's about to
turn thirty one years old. The ops has been good,
the on base has been good. He's been power good
three seasons.

Speaker 6 (47:31):
But he did go through a couple of years with
hamstring injuries and yeah, that arm elbow in baseball, all
this kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Okay, well, let's get your run off the team because
he's had knee problems for three years.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
Well, I'm just saying, like, do you really want to
pay premium premiums what you're gonna pay? And I do
think it's crane doesn't. Well, no, it's worth noting, and
I'm glad Chandler Rone put it in his piece yesterday.
The offer that was on the table for Alex Bregman
is the biggest offer in Astros franchise history. We can't
forget that. We can't look at it all. You're cheap,
all your cheap dollars, like, just because it's not what

(48:04):
the Mets are giving Juan Soto doesn't mean this is
pennies on the dollars. That's a really good deal they
offered Pregnant and they turned it down. I'm sorry if
you would be the highest paid player in the history
of Astros franchise.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yeah, it's the biggest in the highest of a franchise
that generally has not spent money as far as to
the level of those other teams.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
So yes, it is the highest for them. But that
doesn't mean it's some crazy, out of this world deal.
It was was it.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Five million more dollars than Matt Chapman, So it was
about the market going rate. It wasn't some It's also
not so crazy market. It's not some crazy going It
is no market. He's not finding the market that he wants.

Speaker 6 (48:40):
Okay, well, certain point, you gotta you gotta correct for
the market.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
It'll be very interested to see how this continues to
play out, Dana Brown, go ahead where I would.

Speaker 13 (48:48):
Mostly say, it's all internal conversations as to you know,
what we would like to do in terms of Bregnant.

Speaker 14 (48:55):
Well, boris a call he got.

Speaker 13 (48:58):
Me, He sent me a text you know today, so
I'll probably end up getting back to him.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
It's like I'll probably end up getting back to Scott Boris.
I don't know. Funny, Well, yeah, I'm gonna call Scott.

Speaker 6 (49:12):
He just called me. I gotta call it right back
now again. More information that he doesn't have to make public.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
That just makes me laugh, Like that makes this is
what has significantly cooled me.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
I mean, you read all these tea leaves. It ain't
happening right.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Like he's like, we're gonna call Scott bores and maybe
we're not. We're gonna talk about what he's doing that.

Speaker 6 (49:32):
Damn they did presley to get below the tax threshold.
They signed Christian Walker, they brought into East Paratus. At
what point do we need to look at all the
tea leaves ago Alex Bregman's not being an astro.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
It's it's Ken Rosenthal's fault because he said if he
had to pick, he would pick the astros. That's what
That's the only thing that first name gave me pause.

Speaker 6 (49:51):
He waits out there, unsigned yes, I guess there is
still a chance.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
There's still a chance, and maybe it would be like
a one year deal or something. I don't know if
he would even want to entertain that. That's what happened
he's gonna have to do. He's gonna have to swallow
his pride at some point. Yeah, didn't Korea have to
do the one year deal in Minnesota before we got
the first time? Yeah, and then he got a big
deal and then if he didn't pass the physical what
was it with the Giants? I can't even remember at
this point. It was the Mets. Uh, But he had
big deals on the table, but they didn't like the

(50:15):
medicals for Carlos Carey and well, no, he's in Minnesota twin.
All right, We're gonna take a quick break here on
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(50:37):
seven ninety The Matt.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Tamas Show with Ross continue on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Back here on The Matt Thomas Show with Ross with
Matt Thomas with Chris Cordy with Adam Clanton joining later
on and with you at seven one three two p
one two five, seventh ninety. It's like a law firm
that's added too many partners. It takes a long time
to introduce the show here.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Matt Thomas will be back tomorrow and well we'll go
roll on as usual. He'll be joining us from Memphis
at that point, right, Yeah, Rockets in Memphis, Matt Thomas
traveling with the Houston Rockets. We've been talking some astros
though with the Dana Brown thing. Yes, it seems like
it is just simply not going to happen with the
Alex Bregman thing unless there is some sort of eleventh

(51:34):
hour one year deal. Let's run it back Alex Bregman
posts the I'm not bleeping leaving Meme and then we
can all celebrate and the Astros go for one more
in twenty twenty five. That'd be fun, but not likely
at this point. Like I said, reading the tea leaves,
like Gordy said, they're trying to get into the tacks.
Seems like they've moved on from Alex Bregman and they're

(51:56):
wishing him the best. And if they did, it would
just be up to Jim Crane to say, you know what,
bleep it, I'm gonna pay a bunch of money and
we're gonna get Alex Bregman back into the fold. And
then we have to figure out stuff with everyone else
as far as where's pose Al two ve gonna play
Essik paratus whatever, it might make a log jam in
left field. But then also from these same Dana Brown comments,

(52:18):
it sounds like Al twovey has been working out in
left field and that might actually happen no matter what.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Yeah, well it was to a point.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
We brought this up on our Crawford Box cast that
Al two Vey's defense has taken a little bit of
a dip, and relying on him to play, you know,
superb second base defense for an entire one sixty two,
I think the I think the expectations there start to

(52:47):
change a little bit. Say, look, Al two ve, we
still love your bat, still need your bat, but you know,
if there's a way to get you off your feet
for you know, a handful of games a year, you're
not playing second base where you're either dhing or you know,
dhing or playing some left field, which as we know

(53:08):
in uh at Mini may park with that. Well, you know,
the the Crawford boxes wall so high you're really about play.
You don't really play many balls up against the wall.
You're normally playing balls off the wall. And I'll two,
they just go grab it and get the ball in.
That's all you gotta do. I mean, you're not. Alvarez
played a solid left field for for the Astros. I

(53:30):
mean really didn't have to do much out there.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Yeah, and then it would be I mean, left field
obviously less of a defensive premium position than second base.
Seven one three two one two seven ninety. The phone
number as we go along here on the Matt Thomas
Show with Ross seven one three two one two five
seven ninety. Phillip in Pairland is next up.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
What's up? Philip Ross?

Speaker 15 (53:52):
Did you say that the Astros don't spend much? I
hear you say that.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
I if I go off ahead and go off. I
didn't say they don't spend much. I said they don't
spend much. They don't spend Okay, I will. What I
was trying to say is they don't spend as much.
The fact that the A six one fifty sixth deal
is the biggest they've ever handed out means they don't
spend as much as the Dodgers, the Yankees, or the Phillies.
They are responsible the Dodgers and the Yankees in the

(54:20):
World Series.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
I'm also not saying they'd be like that.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
You guys are both putting words into my mouth. The
Astros have spent. Jim Crane is not cheap. He has
not spent relative to many other franchises. But also he's
been very successful with his philosophies.

Speaker 15 (54:35):
Yes, now, darn it, see we're agreeing, now, Rod what
I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (54:43):
Scott Boars just called and said, Ross, yes, keep telling
people owners.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
By the way, you're all cheap.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Jim Crane could give this contract out and still have
a lot of money. I mean, that's that's a fact.
But if he doesn't want to do this for the
long term, I get it.

Speaker 15 (54:59):
I just think is he you know, I think they
just feel that they the the market paid too much
for cash mean cashman who Chapman Chapman, and and adamis
you know, and they think that you know, I don't
know how old Chairman is, but.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
You know he's a year old one of them. Yeah
he's older. Oh yeah, Bun is younger and better and
says I deserve more money than Chapman, And to me,
that's fair.

Speaker 15 (55:24):
Yeah, but but he hasn't gotten an offer that's better
than the asters, Isn't that what we can assume? Not necessarily,
But it would be crazy for him to come back.
I mean, we've we've you know, Dana Brown's rebuilt for
him to be gone, you know, we'd be you know,

(55:46):
I don't know, wouldn't it be a problem if they
signed him. I mean, wouldn't they I don't know what
they're I don't know about the salary numbers and the
cap and all.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Yeah, there's no cap. It's a it's a cap that
the owners put.

Speaker 15 (55:59):
The luxury tax I mean, bros.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Sorry, Yeah, it's all good. Yeah, all that all right, Philip,
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
I appreciate you getting in. He just comes down to
does Jim Crane want to spend the money and what
would the back end of that contract look like for
Alex Bregman. And also if Alex Bregman wants to be
a contender for his entire major league career, what would
that look like here in Houston with al two ve
owed money and also going to quite frankly not I

(56:34):
mean he's aging as gracefully as he can. But by
in the next couple of years, Jose Al Tuove is
going to be about a replacement level a Major League
Baseball player or slightly above, I should say so. Long
term implications, it would be interesting to see if Alex
Bregman were here short term, you would want Alex Bregman
here the next two years. Somehow you could magically wave

(56:56):
a wand and just sign him to a two year,
sixty million dollars deal. I think Jim Crane would do it.
It's about the link of to the deal, and it's
also about a financial long term financial security on the
Alex Brigman side.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
Yeah, that's I think that's what everybody would want. I mean,
that's that's the problem is it becomes is it worth
giving out a massive deal to a guy for six
years where you know he's not going to be good
and you're five and six, but you know years one.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
And two he's going to be awesome.

Speaker 6 (57:26):
I said, that's a it's a keep in mind too,
like what is what is Jim Crane's background?

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Business shipping?

Speaker 16 (57:32):
Right?

Speaker 6 (57:33):
Yeah, but like successful business owner. He rans very very
successful businesses. A lot of these successful business owners are
being forced to make bad business deals knowing this isn't
a good deal, but or it's a good deal in
the short term versus the.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
LAS because they want to win. So that's what you
have to weigh. How much money do you want to
make and how much do you want to make this
a business and a profitable business, and how much do
you want to win?

Speaker 3 (57:55):
I think it's a balance. You want to do both, yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
I think Jim Crane has done a really good job
of balancing both.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
And I think the Astros can still be a contender
without Alex Braigman too.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
I think they're better. They're way better with him obviously,
but are they way better with him in four years?

Speaker 6 (58:10):
But at thirty four and thirty five are they?

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:13):
At that point, you've, like I said, you have to
think of it as it's a forty million dollar contract
the first couple of years and then it's fifteen back
at the back end of it. To can you afford
paying for his prime knowing that you're going to take
an l on the back end? And Jim Crane is
very what.

Speaker 6 (58:30):
Unfortunately that's not how they do much sure, right, it's structured, Yeah, thirty,
twenty eight, twenty eight, twenty eight, twenty eight, Like, there's
no exactly, but.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
You can think of it that way. It's all about
how you want to think of it mentally.

Speaker 6 (58:39):
But you're saying, but the book won't lie five years
from now when here's the salary or here's your right,
here's your cap, and here's this money.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Without why but that you're buying his prime. That's why
you signed somebody to a long term contract. Why did
why did the Mets sign Juan Soda? Do they think
he's going to be worth fifty million dollars a year
at age forty one? Of course he's not going to be.
They did it because they're buying his prime. You're paying
for a premium for his prime right now. And then
you're saying that the economics of baseball are going to

(59:09):
go up as well, to where thirty million dollars a
year in five six years if revenues continue to go
up like you, plan is not gonna hit you in
the pocketbooks as much. Where the competitive balanced tax threshold
will continue to go up and up. Revenues go up
and up, and oh, by the way, when you win championships,
you get more gate receipts, you get more interest, you

(59:29):
get more sponsorships and all that type of stuff to
where it can balance out on the on the sheet
for you.

Speaker 6 (59:33):
Well, let's have another lockout and uh, let's let's put
in there.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
I think it's coming.

Speaker 6 (59:37):
Let's have some buyouts. We're gonna have some like.

Speaker 17 (59:40):
A contract buyouts, contracts. We can get out of this
in a perfect world. It's not fully guaranteed. To me,
every league should be hard capped every league. It makes
the best parody. You don't have the haves and have nots.
How are these other owners feeling about what the Dodgers
are doing? Well, that's Jim craning. And like for most people,
you put.

Speaker 6 (59:58):
A tax threshold punishment, it's deterring people from doing it,
except if you're just irresponsible, and the Dodgers irresponsible, going,
we don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
What's irresponsible about what they're doing.

Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
Well, it's just it's it's it's silly money, it's it's
and granted they've got the big uh, the advantage of
the TV deal, whereas other markets don't have that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Yeah, and they're getting people to defer a bunch of money.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
I think, like I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Said a perfect world, everybody would be hard capped because
you have teams like the Marriage. The Marriagers make money.
The Tampa Bay Rays make money, they just don't spend it.
The owners do not care. Oakland A's make money. They
are profitable teams, but the owners simply do not care.
So the players have far.

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
Extent that they're building a new stadium and well, it's
gonna make it more money.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
They care about making.

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
More money, losting a ton of money build that in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Okay, you think they're taking an l on that, or
you think it's gonna make them more money in the
long term. That's the only reason why did they force
and move to Las Vegas? For beliefs and giggles, No,
it's to make more money. So we always have to
we always have to realize here with these teams. As
his words, is also about the business of baseball and
the players who have fought and fought and fought against

(01:01:09):
a salary cap. I feel like, yeah, it's great for
the top twenty flight players the league, maybe the top
fifty players of the league, but it significantly hurts the
bottom players of the league and the lack of a
salary cap long term.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
I guess to me, it's just not good for the
overall health of the league.

Speaker 6 (01:01:29):
Well, what's great about baseball is I mean the Dodgers
have been massive spenders for the last decade was and
they've gotten two championships year a year. Yeah, I mean,
Astros have two. I mean it's you know, it's the
Guardians were this close to, you know, making a run,
I mean so that they didn't. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Yeah, it was the Yankees and the Dodgers in the.

Speaker 6 (01:01:52):
Year before the Rangers and the freaking diamond Back.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
The Rangers spent like five hundred The Rangers spent The
Rangers bought that ring. They spent a bunch of money
to Corey Seeger and Marcus Simeon, They got to Grom,
they got all these players. They absolutely spent into that
ring with the with the did the Darlington Rangers, I
don't know what they were that year, but they spent
a They spent like half a billion dollars and won
the World Series.

Speaker 6 (01:02:15):
I'm just baseball is the one sport that the little
guy can still put up a fight.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
They can't.

Speaker 6 (01:02:21):
That's what's gonna be hilarious. If the Dodgers don't get
if they get eliminated again.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Yeah, the Diamondbacks made it one year, they got hot
in the playoffs getting in a wild card. Did they
even didn't even make the playoffs last year? So and
that's fine. The Diamondbacks people, they they spent this offseason.
They got Corbyn Burns, So we'll see what happens long term.

Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
The Yankees just got to the first World Series since
two thousand and nine, and they're they're one of the
top spenders every year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Well that's because Brian Cashman is an idiot. You got
also got to spend the Moneys. And he also preens
on about how they have no analytics department, Like that's
just stupid. You're spending smart like the Dodgers have been.
You're gonna be contenders now. The Dodgers, you want to
talk about the balance of just winning the World Series,
that's fine, but they've been winning. How many years in
a row have they won, like one hundred games or
somewhere in that neighborhood. They've been a juggernaut. So, I mean,

(01:03:09):
we'll see what happens and what happens with the health
of the league and if other owners are gonna spur change,
if players want change, or if everybody's gonna say this
is cool, Dodgers can spend a billion dollars and get
like eight hundred million of it deferred. We don't care.
We're just gonna go ahead and go about our business.
I don't know, but all right, seven one three eight
two point two five seven ninety the phone number when
we come back. Is there something that you want to

(01:03:30):
get off your chest? Something that has been bothering you,
somebody that's been annoying you? You want to say eight
noe body got time for that? Slash shut Joe, bum
ass up. That's coming up next here on the Matt
Thomas Show with Ross again he.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Again, Tampada, Here again, Tampa gear again, gear again, Here again,
he again, Tampadi.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Welcome back to the Matt Thomas Show with Ross Ross
virial with you Chris Gordy as well, and now it's
our favorite time of the week. You have something you
want to get off your chest, somebody is annoying you,
or something that is annoying you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
You say, ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Nobody got time for that?

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
Shitch?

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Ain't nobody got tap me?

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
I wrought you to the sit order, did I?

Speaker 14 (01:04:28):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
I always go that one first, because that was the
original segment. Shut you obumass up came up afterwards. That
was that was Josh Smith, I think talking about Doc
Rivers or something like that. I'd have to find the
original audio. But here's our good friend Josh Smith. What
do he had to say to Doc Rivers?

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Shitch obumass up man?

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
And well he said that because Doc Rivers was upsetting him.
So somebody or something has been upsetting you. You can
tell them either of those things. At seven one three
two one two five seven Night seven one three two
one two five seven ninety Chris Cordy, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Gonna let you go as our guest.

Speaker 6 (01:05:07):
Yeah, I'm sick of reading articles this week. This is
mostly the tabloids. But Will Travis Kelcey proposed to set
Taylor Swift on the fields they win the Super Bowl.
Shut your bum ass up. I don't care, shut you
bum ass up. I want to see a good football game.

(01:05:28):
I want to watch the Super Bowl. I don't care
about them getting engaged by the way Hawk sticking on
that they want to have kids and all this guy stuff.
They better get it done quick.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
We sho's got some frozen eggs. It'd be you don't know,
you know, in their life? How old is Taylor these days?

Speaker 9 (01:05:43):
I just that that.

Speaker 6 (01:05:46):
And then the Jason Kelcey obsession on ESPN, like he's
on a play free show. And now it's like, oh, Jason,
you're gonna root for your brother and the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
You're gonna vote for your former team or root for
your former team. What do you think they're both thirty
five years old?

Speaker 6 (01:06:01):
Ooh, looks ticking.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
The biological clock is ticking for Taylor Swift and Travis Cussele.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Maybe she'dn't want to have kids. She's a cat mom, right.

Speaker 6 (01:06:11):
I just don't need articles about like how about articles
about the game? How about articles about what if Jalen
hurts wins and what does that do for his legacy?

Speaker 18 (01:06:18):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
I'm glad you brought that up because I have some
This is for Matt Thomas and all of some of
you elsewhere as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
This is a boring Super Bowl matchup. I'm not interested
in this at all.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
The Eagles one of the best offensive and defensive teams
in football. Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid are going for history,
trying to win their third straight Super Bowl. Something that
has never been done in the history of the sport.
Steve Spagnolo is a great defensive coordinator. How are they
gonna match up against the run game of Saquon Barkley?
Like there's a million angles. This is two of the

(01:06:51):
four or five best teams in football. I think it's
a good Super Bowl matchup. And if you're like, oh,
I'm shaking the Chiefs winning, I'm sorry taking the greatness.
Quit your whining because you're going to be watching on
Sunday anyways. So shut Joe bum ass up.

Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
Shut Joe bum ass up. Man, it's a it's a
good matchup like what would have been? What would have
been a bad matchup? Like I don't know Rams, I
hate the Rams. Like Rams versus Bills, Oh Texas Texans
here we had a lot of Yeah, I know we
would have had interest here. Let talk about how excited

(01:07:28):
would you have been for Rams Bills? Not super excited
versus Josh Allen, Chiefs and Eagles. It's the remass Jalen Hurts,
the over the hump Nicks Ariani. People talked about how
terrible of a coach he was, and now he's right
back there in the Super Bowl and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
I think they're right now, gut feeling Eagles win that game.

Speaker 6 (01:07:47):
Also, everybody I've heard of said it's Saquon Barkley. You
still say Sequanquan?

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
What did I say?

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
You say Sequonon?

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Is it Saquon?

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (01:07:56):
Well it made me think I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
I'm on little sleep in, two types of medicine, and
I'm losing my voice. Give me a break seven one
three two one two five seven ninety before we go
to the phones.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Connor mccovern, anything been bothering you?

Speaker 19 (01:08:09):
Yeah, yesterday I went to a restaurant in Montrose and
I pulled up in the parking lot and there was
a spot right for the restaurants, Like, oh score, I'm
gonna park in and go in and go eat, but
there was a cone blocking it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
And then I was like, and a guy came to
my car.

Speaker 19 (01:08:28):
Rolled down my window and he's like, oh, valet, valet,
valet parking for this tiny little spot, like parking lot
with fifteen spots, and there was one right in front
of the restaurant. But I had to pay for somebody
to move my car another ten feet for me. So
anybody got time for that? It wasn't even that nice
of a fun It's a pretty casual place. Like, why
why charge valet? The spot is right there, I have

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to pay for you to move at ten feet?

Speaker 6 (01:08:52):
Was it ltepo? So they do that sometimes?

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Was it there was a place similar the valet game has.
You know what, I'm glad you're pointing this out works.
It's been everywhere now with the valet game. And he's
absolutely right, Like, there's six open spots over here, brother,
I can park my own car.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
I didn't usually like, oh it's a complimentary. It's complimentary.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Then you're like, fine, I got to fish out whatever
cash I have in my wallet trying to give to
this guy so I can give him a tip so
I don't look like an a hole.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
But it's like, I would rather just go and and
park my own car. I know, I'm not fancy, Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
I don't know somebody taking and pulling up my car.
I don't have a fancy car in the first place,
So I'm embarrassed that you have to get in my
car anyways, So like, stop with the with the constant
and cessant valet everywhere you go now in Houston.

Speaker 19 (01:09:32):
Yeah, I I didn't even I was like, okay, so
I backed out of this tiny little parking lot back
on the street and win around the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Dang man of principle Puckers.

Speaker 9 (01:09:41):
I like that.

Speaker 6 (01:09:41):
Fuckers on Shepherd. Get you with that though.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Yeah, they've they've got the on every spot. Like I
saw somebody parking the falling the ditch over there over there,
They're like, screw this, I'm not valeting. The next thing,
you know, their cars and the ditch. I saw them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
I was like, this is not going going well. Oh
my god, they're in the ditch.

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
Yeah, we've started. I mean, if you're if you don't
live too far away from some of these places, we've
just started. We go out places. We just uber everywhere
because I thought, I having a fight parking and what
if you have a couple of cocktails?

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Yeah? Uber.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
First of all, I like to drink. I don't like
to drive when I've been.

Speaker 11 (01:10:20):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 6 (01:10:22):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Stop you.

Speaker 14 (01:10:28):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Karaoke king I had. First of all, I was ubering
that night, number one, number two. I had like two
drinks literally too. Now okay, first of all, the girl
was pouring them pretty stiff, and the second one I
poured myself and I poured that stiff because she was
nowhere to be found.

Speaker 6 (01:10:44):
That was on my phone like sometimes I need to go. Look,
I appreciate you, and I'm still gonna tip you. We'll
make these a little weaker. I don't need to be
off my ass after two drinks.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Well yeah, all right, karaoke king you missed you missed
the magic Connor. Have you ever seen my Chris Cordy
in action on the micro? I haven't heard the U shuga?

Speaker 6 (01:11:02):
Are you left last week before it happened?

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Yeah, apparently I didn't know if karaoke was going on.
There was no karaoke. Chris Cordy was like, DJ, We're
gonna do karaoke now He's like what.

Speaker 6 (01:11:11):
Oh no, they did it after we left. Okay, I
had more. Brod Ryan got on the mic.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Oh my god, sounds like it was a great time.
But I had to go because we had fan fest
in the morning. All right, anyways, let's get you know
what some of you guys have been holding patiently, So
let's get one quick ahead of a break the other.
You other If you are on hold, I promise we
will get to you want to get in seven one, three,
Tony and Angleton go ahead. This message goes out to
Charles Barkley.

Speaker 14 (01:11:36):
Charles, I know you're listening to this show, Charles.

Speaker 20 (01:11:39):
Because you have to get information and tell about the
Rockets now to make sure that you that you can
get on the air and and and actually have some
kind of credibility.

Speaker 14 (01:11:48):
This Rockets team is phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
The way they're playing right now, it's a.

Speaker 20 (01:11:54):
Lot of fun to watch.

Speaker 8 (01:11:56):
They won what four in a row, ten or twelve
or last fourteen games.

Speaker 14 (01:12:02):
They're they're not trying to move players.

Speaker 21 (01:12:04):
They're they're looking actually acquire players to maybe possibly move
on in the playoffs.

Speaker 20 (01:12:09):
So Charles, nobody got time for that, Charles, So shut
your bump ass up.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Nobody got time for that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
I'm on board hit them with both to Charles Barkley,
I'm definitely on board with that, all right. Chris Gordy
is here, Connor McGovern as well. My name is Ross
View Real it's the Man Tom Show without Matt. He's
traveling with the Rockets. We're gonna get y'all with some more.
Ain't nobody got time for that? Slash shut joke? Bump
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Speaker 8 (01:13:40):
More.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Matt Thomas Show with Ross Now on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
All right, last chance, you want to tell somebody to
shut they moss up or that man? Yeah, get them
Josh Smith nobody seven one three two one two five
seven ninety is the phone number seven one three two
one two five seven ninety. A couple you're getting on

(01:14:14):
the phone line. So let's goad and roll it with
Joe on the northwest side. What's up Joe?

Speaker 7 (01:14:21):
Hey, guys?

Speaker 18 (01:14:22):
Uh, do all the people who keep saying the Chiefs
just keep finding a way to win.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Shut your bumb asses up?

Speaker 6 (01:14:30):
Eight?

Speaker 7 (01:14:31):
Nobody got time for that.

Speaker 18 (01:14:32):
The Chiefs and the refs keep finding the way to
win together. That's when you win fourteen like one score
games in a row. What are two key calls going
against the other team. You go a long way towards
dictating the outcome. So they can just shut their bum
ass up?

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
Shit, Jo, bum ass up?

Speaker 6 (01:14:52):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Do you think they're rigging the games for the chiefs, Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Uh and Taylor Swift. So you think the entire you
think the league is rigging the game so that Taylor
Swift can win.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
It's not just about Taylor, but it's about the.

Speaker 7 (01:15:14):
Whole chief entourage.

Speaker 18 (01:15:16):
Andy Mahomes, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Kelsey, all of them EXU think this is a targeted conspiracy.
Do you think it's coincidence or do you think it's
a targeted conspiracy.

Speaker 11 (01:15:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
You have to ask uh, Roger goodall that?

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
M Roder Goodall, Okay, we'll ask Roger goodall about that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Thank you? Joe appreciated.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Uh As the NFL and Jerry Jones and Hannah McNair
have all agreed to rig the league for Kansas City, Missouri.

Speaker 6 (01:15:47):
Jerry said, if if the Cowboys can't be in there,
I would want to see.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
I want Taylor to be had. Yeah, I love Taylor.
All right, Mike in the Beltway, your next step?

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
What's up?

Speaker 14 (01:15:57):
Mike?

Speaker 10 (01:15:58):
Yes, sir, this is what I don't half time, but
I play believe believe it or not?

Speaker 11 (01:16:05):
And uh oh, gotcha to check my email?

Speaker 10 (01:16:07):
Check my email, I check my spam, I get an
email and this act is for my Social Security number.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
Man, I have got time for that.

Speaker 16 (01:16:15):
Is that a scam?

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
No, well, I don't think it is a scam.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
So, Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
One of the reasons, unfortunately for winners that we need
what prize did you win?

Speaker 9 (01:16:24):
Well?

Speaker 8 (01:16:26):
What?

Speaker 10 (01:16:28):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Be tickets? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
So it's it's for tax purposes because when you win
a prize, you as when we give away prizes, it
has a certain dollar value and that has tax implications
for us over here at iHeartMedia Houston.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
So they need the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Social Security number because basically everyone that wins their prize
and you're gonna be fine. I believe it has to
be over one hundred dollars value. Or maybe those are
one hundred over one hundred dollars dollars value, so maybe
that's why you got those.

Speaker 10 (01:16:57):
No, it's fifty dollars you'd had the value of Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Yeah, I think still they get all the winners and
it's for tax purposes. So I'm sorry, Mike, it is
what it is. Well, you know what, You're right, twenty
got time for Uncle Sam. I can't win some bun
beat tickets without the government transaction getting involved.

Speaker 19 (01:17:17):
No, Mike, and nobody shut yourbo mess up. You have
the tickets, you put in your information, you wait forree email.
I got to stick around in the studio and grab
all these prize winners when you get four or five winners.
Because the ross is terrible. Questions easy, it's the worst segment. No,
you're good price. You'll get your tickets and like it
or don't feel the rission and don't get it, So

(01:17:38):
shut your bum mess.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Up, Mike Poker.

Speaker 6 (01:17:43):
Sorry, Mike, appreciate it. Elso it's twenty twenty four. I
don't have any problem giving on my social Security number.
You have LifeLock and all those other things that will
protect them.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
It's still probably not agreed.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Well, didn't the LifeLock guy put his He was like,
nobody with LifeLock, you're safe. I will put my social
Security number out on a on a billboard and then
like within hours he had his identity stolen by like
seventy five people or something like that. That was pretty funny.

Speaker 6 (01:18:07):
Well, I'm not saying televise it to hundreds of thousands
of people.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Yeah, I'm sorry, Mike. It's it's a tax thing.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
That's why.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Connor hates you, and he hates believe it or not. Apparently,
I'm sorry, Connor.

Speaker 14 (01:18:21):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
That's okay. Look, if we got rid of it, wouldn't
bother me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
That's the right questions every day, all right, salam Paarland,
what you got?

Speaker 9 (01:18:30):
Hey, what's up bros?

Speaker 11 (01:18:31):
Hey? So I love sucker Man.

Speaker 9 (01:18:33):
And you know, today's Champions League today.

Speaker 14 (01:18:36):
We have Champions League.

Speaker 11 (01:18:37):
Today, And I just gotta think whoever came up with
the idea to have eighteen matches in one day?

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Yeah, I think it's all you know, the NFL does that.
It's because there's the you know, the the the clinching
implications to where everybody plays at the same time. That way,
nobody kind of soft plays the game. It's pretty This
new format is ridiculous, you know what. They need to
shut there by mass up on this new format, right,
so it sucks. Yeah, and also go Manchester City Madrid,

(01:19:09):
all right, thank you appreciate it. So, yeah, your thoughts
on the new UCL format.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
Chris Cordy, I don't even are talking.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Okay, it's a Champions League, it's a it's a big
European tournament. It's all the top four clubs from the
top European teams, so they play all play each other.
So there's the English League, the Spanish League, the French League,
the Belgian League, the German League, what are the French
that I even say, the French League whatever. So it's
the top four teams from those leagues. They get in

(01:19:37):
one big tournament and whoever wins it as the European champion.
And it's very prestigious. It's not Premier League. It's Premier League,
Premier the Premier le the BAC always even Barclays anymore,
the English Premier League, brought to you by Emirates or
whoever brings it to you whatever. Yeah, so it's the
top four of the That's why you want to make
the top four in your league, because you get a
lot of money when you make the Champions League. They

(01:19:58):
have a big tournament, champions Final. You're a year annually
has more viewers than the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (01:20:04):
Just saying, sorry, I fall asleep with all the soccer talk.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Oh you poor baby.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
All right, we're gonna take quick break here on the
Matt Thomas Show with Ross. Chris Gordy is here, Connor
McGovern is here, Matt Thomas is not. Will Chris Cordy
hang out for the news at noon? I have no
idea Adam Clinton's coming up at one o'clock. You want
to get in, you can. It's seven one three, two
one two five seven ninety All the top sports news
items other day coming at you next.

Speaker 7 (01:20:30):
Lunchtimers. This is the Matt Thomas Show.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Our number three of the Matt Thomas Show with Ross.
Without Matt Thomas. He is out traveling with the Houston Rockets.
He will be back tomorrow from Memphis. Well, we will
talk about the Rockets and many other things as we
get to all the top sports news items of the
day in a segment we call the News at Noon.

(01:20:56):
Cotta mcgovernent with the News at noon today, which means
I don't have to look up news stories, So I
am very happy. Chris Gordy is still here hanging out, Connor.
What are the people talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
Yes?

Speaker 19 (01:21:08):
In the rescheduled matchup, Jalen Green dropped twenty five points
and the Rockets avoided a late game collapse to defeat
the Atlanta Hawks one hundred and ninety six last night.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
Back out to Jalen Green with a reset nine to
shoot in the shot clock, one on one against Garrison Matthews.

Speaker 5 (01:21:22):
Green down the lane, floats it off.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
The back point and down, My goodness, a tough make
over to Atlanta Hawk defenders.

Speaker 19 (01:21:31):
I'll per Shanngoon added eighteen points and ten rebounds. The
Rockets have won ten out of their last twelve and
we'll face the Memphis Grizzlies on Thursday for a key
Western Conference matchups.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
Yeah, they're going for the season sweep. And I mentioned
this earlier, Gordy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
The thing that's been impressing me about the Rockets is
they've been winning kind of when they're not necessarily at
their best.

Speaker 21 (01:21:51):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Of course, Dylan Brooks was completely out of his mind.
He made ten to fifteen threes against the Celtics. They
don't win that game without him doing that. But other
starters liked alpern Chingun, Jalen Green, Fred Van Vliet were
terrible in that game last night. You only shot twenty
three percent from three. Sure, the Hawks aren't necessarily world beaters,
but in years past they lose that game. They're winning
when they are not at their best, the mark of

(01:22:13):
a really good team.

Speaker 6 (01:22:14):
By the way, the Sports betting ag just putting out
the latest odds. Aaron Fox's next team, if not the Kings,
can I guess yes, Spurs Spurs are the favorite at
minus one fifty. That's heavy favorite forwhelming Well, he's made
it known he wants to be yes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
For those of you who don't know, you got to
lay one hundred fifty dollars to win one hundred there,
so you're basically laying three dollars for every two dollars
you win.

Speaker 6 (01:22:34):
Find me you want to go suck with the Spurs,
Go suck with the Spurs. But the Rockets' second best
odds at three to one mmmm.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
I mean he is from the area. The Rockets do
have assets. We have talked about this. It's just up
to the Rockets in Roughelstone they want to rock the
boat or if they want to trust the process. I've
been to trust the process guy throughout this. I mean
I am intrigued by Dearon Fox is the piece of
Fred van Vliet who might not be here with a
team option next year and expiring contract. That excites the

(01:23:05):
Sacramento Kings. I'd be interested to see what the return is.
But also staying the course with what they have here
I think is a really good option because they're already surprising.
You're into phase two. Let the guys you have here
blossom and grow into what they have been. And this
team right now, as positioned as the number two team
in the West, by default, it makes you a championship

(01:23:26):
contender right now?

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
Yes, all right, what.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Else you got, Condamagevin.

Speaker 19 (01:23:30):
Yesterday, the Astros officially announced the trade of relief pitcher
Ryan Presley to the Chicago Cubs. General manager Dana Brown
spoke on a number of topics, including the team's relationship
with Presley, the possibility of retaining Alex Bregman, and Jose
Altuve getting some reps at left field. Last week, al
Twove came out and said he would be willing to
play left field if that meant the Astros could resign Bregman,
but Brown said yesterday that Altuve and left field would

(01:23:52):
more likely happen with an addition, speaking of editions, David
Brown also had this to say.

Speaker 13 (01:23:57):
You know, as I mentioned before, it'd be nice to
get it, you know, a left hand bat.

Speaker 14 (01:24:02):
That would be you know, sort of a priority.

Speaker 13 (01:24:06):
But we are, you know, weighing all the options on
the free agent market, and you know we're taking a
real close look at it, taking a deep dive.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
Astro is getting a left handed bat is a priority
for any Dana Brown hor hit.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Polonko is a switch hitter. I think that would qualify
as a left handed bat. Alex Bregman, however, what side
does he beat from Chris Gordy?

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
That would be the right side.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Oh, Alex Bregman, Yeah, sorry, all right, you're putting together
something for Lockdown.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
I was reading Jorge Polonko. Okay, how are those looking?

Speaker 9 (01:24:38):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
Why don't you read those out for us? He's he's
a switch hitter, correct?

Speaker 6 (01:24:42):
Yeah, well he's yeah, he bats, he beats both two
thirteen last year a year before was good, right, bet
two fifty five year prior with fourteen home runs. He
had sixteen home runs last year. I mean he's a
little mid m like a like an Elennis Das or something.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Ooh, hey, Elennis d has had some value. You always
need a couple of utility guys, and people are gonna
get injured. I old say, how two bay is really
old at this point? Didn't he have like an oblique injury?
Well then he had the broken hand the year before that.
But okay, I'll go.

Speaker 6 (01:25:18):
Born in nineteen ninety three as well, How old is that?

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
Making thirty two? Kay or are the actually gonna turn
thirty two?

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
Yeah, that's all I'm willing to get.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Yeah, I mean, this'd be a one year small deal
to get.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
The salary relief would be, of course less than whatever
they just got as far as salary relief from Ryan O. Pressley.
What else are the people talking about? Connor MCGVN.

Speaker 19 (01:25:42):
Mike McCarthy has decided against coaching in twenty twenty five,
removing himself as a candidate to fill the NFL's last
remaining head coaching vacancy with the New Interesting Saints. McCarthy
is actually the third candidate to pull out of the
Saints' coaching search, joining Buffalo offensive coordinator Joe Brady and
Washington offensive coordinator at Cliff Kingsbury. So Mike McCarthy, former

(01:26:02):
Dallas Cowboys head coach, is not coaching at twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Nobody wants to go to New Orleans and be the
Saints head coach.

Speaker 6 (01:26:09):
Your thoughts, Chris Gordy, if you're Gale Benson, Saints owner,
wake the hell up. No one wants to work for
Mickey Loomis. Mickey Loomis was one of the architects who
I'll bring in Drew Brees and Sean Payton and help
win the nine Super Bowl. But last night checks Russ,
it's twenty twenty five. That super Bowl's fifteen years old.
Derek Carr's there. They are capstrapped like you wouldn't believe. Yeah,

(01:26:33):
they have all old players. They have Derek Carr, who
sucks and nobody wants to a job like wake up.
You gotta get rid of Loomis, get rid of leadership,
clean house. Do what the Texans did, clean house.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
It looks like as I look, the Saints are fifty
four million dollars over the salary cap.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
You know what I'd do right now?

Speaker 6 (01:26:52):
I would fire Mickey Loomis. I'd find a new GM
and you know what I'd do, I'd call David Cully
and say, David, we need you for one year, Bud,
come suck ass, lose games.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Oh my god, do you think you would do that?

Speaker 9 (01:27:06):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:27:06):
I am honored to be the head coach of the
New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
David Kelly.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
What is intro press conference? He's talking about wanting to
coach at his high school. Oh yeah, like, oh well,
it's always his dream. I don't think David Kelly is
gonna last long here.

Speaker 6 (01:27:21):
If you don't want him, Lovey Smith love I'll call
Lovey up. Lovey one year.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Just go to the retreads a the ass. I mean
that the Texans used, but we have to.

Speaker 6 (01:27:29):
Have a deal in writing, Lovey. If do you have
a chance to win the week eighteen game.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
You lose it, You're gonna put it in writing that
he has to lose. You have to intentionally lose bus.
That's pretty funny, all right? What else is going on
the news at noon?

Speaker 6 (01:27:42):
Here?

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Old sports Dook seveninety with Codda McGovern.

Speaker 19 (01:27:46):
The Texans fired offensive coordinator Bobby Slowik last week and
have begun their search for his replacement. Reports have come
out that Jim Kelly Chip Kelly is in the mix.
The Texans have interviewed Syracuse offensive coordinator Jeff Nixon and
Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarter backs coach Thad Lewis, So Ross
and Gordy. Who's your pick for the Texans next offensive coordinator?

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Fad Lewis is the quarterbacks coach of the Buccaneers. He
wasn't playing that well. He was playing not that long ago, right, Yeah,
I just old hat Texans quarterback. It was Texans legend
twenty fourteen, Dad Lewis um He last was on the
practice squad or maybe an off season member of the
Baltimore Ravens in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 6 (01:28:24):
There's another guy that interviewed yesterday, Rams passing game coordinator
Nick Cayley, Nick Haley, Kayley c A L. E. Y
h not familiar with this work.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Oh no, I tried to put that in and it
came up, Nicky Haley.

Speaker 6 (01:28:39):
That's not what I want Texans interviewed NICKI Haley.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
That's interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:28:44):
Uh, Nick Cayley. Oh John Carroll connection boom.

Speaker 18 (01:28:50):
Uh oh.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
John Carroll student assistant. You're right, it's somebody Rams.

Speaker 6 (01:28:57):
We couldn't you see Nick Casarro going, yeah, Tomko, this
is a guy with a really need man Nick.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
You just know him for back of your college days.

Speaker 14 (01:29:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
I would on my initial thought was I took Jarraw
Johnson over the field. I would probably take the field
now if I could remake that one dollar bet with
Matt Thomas, because I thought maybe with the firing of
Slok and kind of how late in the game it
got that they might have had somebody as a replacement
lined up. But looks like they're doing a thorough search.

Speaker 6 (01:29:23):
That's a good will you got with grad Johnson here one,
isn't he kind of attached to the hip with Bobby
Slowick Like from a standpoint of dolphense wasn't great this year?

Speaker 14 (01:29:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
And well, actually, there's another interesting nugget about c. J.
Stroud and Bobby Slok.

Speaker 19 (01:29:39):
I believe you have that, yes, uh, speaking of the
Texans at local, report has come in from Lanzer Line
that suggests that the relationship between Strout and Slock didn't
get off to the best start. Apparently, in a pre
draft interview, the pair was talking x's and o's and
Strout was using terminology from his time at Ohio State,
and slow sort of jumps him and said, I don't
give a blank what you call it at Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
This is pro football. And apparently Baba Slowe kind of
got into the face of CJ. Stroud.

Speaker 19 (01:30:04):
So Stroud didn't back down, and so maybe Slope was
testing Stroud, but according to Lancer Line, it got heated
and the two had to be separated. Following the argument,
Stroud apparently told another team that his meeting with the
Texans went terribly and that he didn't think he was
going to get drafted by Houston. So maybe the relationship
between Stroud and Slowk has been rocky from the start.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Nfl dot COM's Lancer line with the report there interesting. Yeah,
that sounds like, what is that one of those things
where you kind of try to rattle a guy in
the pre drafts and see how he reacts. It could
have been, Man, do you want him to not back down?
You're like, yeah, I want him to throw hands with
the offensive coordinator.

Speaker 6 (01:30:41):
I'm always against players making the higher but like with
CJ's the the face of your franchise, I kind of
want him a CJ. Why don't you go do some
study and give me a list of names of guys
you'd like.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
Yeah, you want some input. You don't want him having
the final say, but some input from CJ. Stroud and
what he's comfortable with doing and how he wants to
kind of construct things all offensively certainly would be helpful.
I mean, he is your franchise quarterback the Texans. He's
gonna be here for a decade plus whatever it's gonna
cost for money or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:31:09):
CJ.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
Shroud is going to be your guy for the foreseeable future.
So you want him happy. You want him comfortable. He
would not giving him final say, but some input from
him would be nice. Yes, interesting, Okay, So where will
the Texans go with their offensive coordinator? We can talk
about that as we hit break here on The Matt
Thomas Show with Ross. We've also been talking about the
Rockets as they continue to surprise. Are you on the

(01:31:30):
bandwagon or are you still off? As it relates to
the Houston Rockets. We've been talking Dana Brown, astros. A
lot of stuff to get to here with you till
two o'clock. Adam Clanten coming on at one and you
at seven one three two, one two five seven ninety
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Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
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Speaker 6 (01:32:39):
Yes, Matt's out. Chris Gordyson in with Ross here on
the Matt Tamas Show with Ross and we were talking
before the break a little bit about the Houston Texans
and the search for an offensive coordinator. Interviews continuing. Like
we said yesterday, Nick Cayley liked. Nick Cassaro's a John
Carroll University grad. He's the Los Angeles Rams ends coach

(01:33:00):
and passing game coordinator. He interviewed with the Texans yesterday.
He's forty two years old. Former Patriots tight ends coach
as well. Uh oh, so we got the John Carroll connection. Check,
we got Chadriods tight ends coach.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Check mean, Rams passing game has been pretty good.

Speaker 6 (01:33:15):
So we can go ahead and clearly say this is
a guy that's in the that's a Nick Cassario candidate.
Let's run through some of the other ones. They interviewed
Bucks quarterbacks coach Thad Lewis. They interviewed Gerrod Johnson they
interviewed Syracuse offense quarter Jeff Nixon. Thad Lewis is only
thirty seven years old. Former NFL quarterback who played for
a ton of teams. He coached at UCLA as an

(01:33:37):
offensive analyst and first joined Tampa Bay as an assistant
receivers coach, so he's very green in terms of his
coaching career. Jeff Nixon is fifty years old. He was
the running backs coach for Syracuse. His NFL experience as
a former Giants running back coach, assistant head coach of
the offense, running backs coach in interromos for the Carolina Panthers.

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He was a cooc and running backs coach at Baylor.
It's a lot of guys with college experience in here.
Interesting and of course Jarrad Johnson we know.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
Is Nick Cayley okay with the Rams? Sean McVay is
kind of like the do they do a lot of
the outside zone run? People have been talking about that
how Bobby slowk and the outside zone Shanahan Tree running
scheme wasn't necessarily a fit with this offensive line. You

(01:34:34):
don't have a bunch of guys who are necessarily good
out in space. You'd rather just angle up on some
people and move some bodies and then run inside with
Damian Pierce or Joe.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
Mixon who's capable of doing either.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
So that's the only thing I guess I think as
far as my thoughts on this is that's what a
lot of the people that I trusted follow the Texans
want somebody. Maybe not with the Bobby Slowick philosophy or
as I said, Shanahan Tree with all that type of stuff,
but at the end of the day, I mean, you
mentioned all these guys. They come from good offenses, they
seem to be well credentialed. So outside of that, I

(01:35:07):
don't really have a strong opinion on who should be
the next offensive coordinator for the Houston Texans.

Speaker 6 (01:35:12):
Have there been Have there been reports? Have they talked
to Chip Kelly at all? Or was that just like
fan fodder.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
I think it's kind of been just mostly floated by people.
I don't see. There's been no official talk of any
sort of interview or anything with Chip Kelly, right, Why.

Speaker 6 (01:35:27):
Why is that? Why did his name come up though,
like of all the names, just because he's got NFL experience?

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Uh here, I'm just trying to hear CBS sports insider
Jonathan Jones said Kelly is considered a target for the
Jaguars and the Texans.

Speaker 6 (01:35:42):
Okay, so I've never heard of Jonathan Jones. Yeah, he's
been rent a while. So that's somebody at least with
some cachet who connected them. But I hadn't seen anything
else that had connected them.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
And apparently also a report in the last twenty four
hours that Chip Kelly has been meeting with Ohio State
brass So maybe this is something that can get floated
out getting a nice raise with the Ohio State buckets, and.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
That's probably what it is. That's what I would get.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
He gave up a head new extension signed by Chip
Kelly after interest from the NFL. He's getting a bunch
of more money. Is he a Jimmy Sexton guy?

Speaker 6 (01:36:15):
He could be.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Guess it would be a Chip care That would be
a Jimmy Sexton move.

Speaker 6 (01:36:19):
But what's so weird about it is remember he was
he was u c L a head coach for five years.
It just gives that up, just goes you know what,
I don't want to be a I don't want to
be a head coach anymore. And if your call, uh,
Ohio State hired Bill O'Brien to be their O C.
Chip Kelly's agent Jimmy Sexton, Well there you go. So

(01:36:41):
Jimmy Sext would be like, yeah, yeah, let's float it
out with a couple of NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
No connection at a.

Speaker 6 (01:36:49):
Man, And then I heard people saying, look, well you
shooting the Jaguars and the Texans. No, it's also between
Ohio State just staying where you just won a national
champions Why not just stay.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
The Ohio State seems to have money. And look, if
there's any time to ask for a raise, it's probably
after winning the national championship in a twelve.

Speaker 16 (01:37:06):
An he choose that he gave up being a head
coach in UCLA to go be a OC And how
bad do you feel like if you're in the UCLA
A D and you're like and Chip Kelly comes, He's like, yeah, guys,
I'm gonna head out.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Oh man, I'm sorry, did you uh? Did the NFL
come calling? Or what job are you getting? I'm going
to be an offensive coordinator Ohio State. Oh, that's gotta
be a blow to the ego.

Speaker 6 (01:37:28):
He saw that from a couple coaches, though that stepped
down from Gus Melzhan just left UCF head coach at
UCF to go BOC at. Was it Miami or no
Florida State?

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
I can't remember, but I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
How much does that have to do with the nil
and transfer portal culture of these coaches and saying, hey,
I just don't want the headache, it's not worth my time.

Speaker 6 (01:37:50):
Well, Bobby Petrino was. He was on his way to
be back to a head being a head coach Canadate.
He took the OC job at Arkansas and all reports. Sorry,
he wants nothing to do with being a head coach again.
He hates an il, he hates all that stuff. He goes,
just give me my play sheet, let me call plays,
let me run. That's what I want to do. Anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
Yeah, Now he's at uh oh, yeah you said Arkansas.
He was at A and M before that.

Speaker 6 (01:38:15):
Yeah, but Gus smells on. I mean that one was crazy.
So yeah, Riding is on the wall. A lot of
his college coaches, they're perfectly fine just being a million
dollar or one point two million dollar o c DC.
Don't need to be a head coach.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
She make some money, don't have the headaches, make good
money make I mean, life changing, as long as you
save it up and don't go all crazy type of
money and you don't have to have to worry about
all that other stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:38:40):
I saw that this guy put out his uh he said,
my ranking tier list top candidates. I have his Chip
Kelly and Nick Cayley. So this guy really likes Nick Cayley.
Who is this guy? This guy on Twitter? Okay, you
don't have a have a name. Get Texans Jacob. Okay,
well right, it's the first thing I fucked up. But
I searched. When I searched your Rod Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
All right, Well, well we appreciate Texans Jacob's input on
his favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
He's got fifty four hundred followers. Okay, not exactly nobody.
I'm sure he's very invested. I'm sure he does a
great job. We're all proud of him.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
All right, seven one three two?

Speaker 6 (01:39:17):
Is there a name you want?

Speaker 3 (01:39:18):
Name?

Speaker 9 (01:39:18):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
I said, like I said, Jew Johnson would be cool.
But if if we're looking for the outside names and
those other guys, they all seem credential to me. I
haven't done a deep vite. Look what is Nick Kyley
gonna do when he comes in? Here in the game,
and how's he gonna call plays and what's his offensive philosophy.
I don't necessarily know, but Bobby slock out. Hope it's

(01:39:39):
someone better. Chim Kelly would be cool. Draw Johnson seemed
to be highly thought of inside the organization, and some
of those other names are intriguing as well with how
good the offenses they have been working with have done.

Speaker 6 (01:39:50):
All I know about Nick Keyley is he's got he's
got a good experience.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
With John Carroll Cassario Patriots. We'll get him in the
building well.

Speaker 6 (01:39:58):
But by the way, he was promoted to tight ends
coach with the Patriots, during which time he coached Rob
Gronkowski to a Pro Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:40:05):
The thing.

Speaker 6 (01:40:06):
The thing with that though, is Rob Gronkowski went in
a Pro Bowl no matter who was coaching him.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
Yeah, great job, Nick Kayley. You really led Rob Gronkowski
to Pro Bowl start him.

Speaker 6 (01:40:15):
I mean, that's one you put on your resume. But absolutely,
I don't know how much.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
You probably don't take a bunch of credit for it, right,
but you certainly put it on your resume. Absolutely you
have to do that, and that's what he did.

Speaker 6 (01:40:27):
So he was in New England from twenty fifteen through
twenty twenty two, and then went to go be the
Rams coach in twenty twenty three as their tight ends
coach and what's their passing game coordinator this past season?

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
Okay, see he sounds qualified to me.

Speaker 6 (01:40:42):
Yeah, I mean they Matt Stafford, Cooper Cup, Yeah, Poka Nakula.
I mean he had a pretty easy job there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
Oh no, it's tough. Look all right, guys on this part.
DeMarcus Robinson to Pooka, don't forget to market. Pooka was
hurt half the year. Cooper Cup got hurt too. It's
DeMarcus Robinson season who had a long horn leg. Jordan
Whittington over there as well, all getting in the mix.
I don't even know how many passing yards Matt Stafford
had this year. But Nick Keyley, great job.

Speaker 6 (01:41:08):
With the Rams tight end production one that great?

Speaker 8 (01:41:10):
Right?

Speaker 15 (01:41:12):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
Who did they have of There was a Tyler Higbee
and then he got hurt and it was like, uh,
Colby Parkinson, right o. Colby Parkinson was okay, yes, he
had one hundred yards on the postseason.

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Welcome back to The Matt Thomas Show with Ross. Without
Matt Thomas, Connor McGovern is here. Adam Klanton will be
joining coming up at one o'clock. You can get in
if you'd like. It's seven one three two one two
five seven ninety seven one three two, one two five
seven ninety. We mentioned some of the Texans' names as

(01:43:07):
far as interviews and who they're going with with their
offensive coordinator position, and sounds like it's kind of a
wide open, spreading a wide net type of search, which
is surprising me because I thought the way that they
handled it with Bobby Slowick and it taking the amount
of time that it did well. I guess it was

(01:43:27):
pretty close to after they lost and there was the
stories about possible discord and unhappiness with Dimiko Ryans. We
played that audio where normally Demiko Ryans is the guy
he's gonna like, oh yeah, great guy. We really appreciate
what he brings. Everybody does great blah blah blah blah
blah coach peak stuff. But when he was asked at
the end of the season about Bobby Slok, He's like,

(01:43:49):
I saw some growth. Eh, It's like a five second
sound bite, which is extremely rare. We hear in the
radio business try to keep sound bites like under thirty seconds,
and he always goes like a minute off of in
thing with a lot of coach speaking. That's fine, not
criticizing Demiko Ryans in that department. He likes to keep
things in house normally, and that's okay. But when he doesn't,
when someone goes against the grain of what they normally do,

(01:44:11):
that's when maybe you take a little bit of notice.

Speaker 3 (01:44:13):
That's when maybe you say, m.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
Maybe I should take this with more than a grain
of assault. Maybe there's something being said without something there's
something being said without anything being said, if that makes sense.
And it's kind of what we were talking about earlier
as well with Dana Brown talking about re engaging with
Alex Bregman. How basically hasn't happened. It's like Dana Brown
normally pretty good guy as far as optimism, like, yeah,

(01:44:38):
this guy's great, that guy's great. It's gonna work out,
Jose Bray, you go into the Flida Complex League, he's
gonna come back better than ever. This guy's gonna turn
it around. That guy's gonna turn it around. And he
was right if you remember in the middle of the
season talking about the Astros turning everything around, and they.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Did, so kudos totam for that. But he is a
guy who's.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
Gonna be normally optimistic and normally opened to anything. But
when he says, oh, I owe Scott Boris a call
he texted me, I didn't text him back. It's like, dang,
you got here big time in Scott Boris.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
Look at you go, Dana Brown. That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
And that's what makes me think that Alex Bregman not
gonna be back into the fold for the Houston Rockets
this season.

Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
It just i' means Houston home blame.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
This is what the time of year where we're talking
about Rockets, Astros and Texans, but the Houston Astros.

Speaker 3 (01:45:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
How's Alex Bregman doing? Running point is three point? Can
he make some threes? Can you play a three and
d wing for the Houston Rockets, because they'd be looking
for one. But no, I think they're gonna be set.
They've they've gone through, they've planned this entire offseason without
Alex Bregman being into the fold, and I think unless
it's some sort of eleventh hour one year deal, let's

(01:45:51):
run it back. Bregman posts the posts the I'm not
bleeping leaving meme, which would be incredible and it would
get everybody fired up. And by the way, the team
on the field would be better in twenty twenty five
with the guy in the leadership that he provides to
this team. It would take that type of thing, that

(01:46:11):
type of deal. I would be shocked. I would still
be shocked if it happened at this point. So the
Astros are going to have to move forward to me
without him and their plans. But then it also goes
to say where else is the factor in There's been
reports that the Red Sox don't want to offer him
as many years as he's looking for. There's been reports
that the Detroit Tigers are tightening the purse strings and

(01:46:36):
not wanting to give him the type of money that
he's looking for. They also just signed a reliever, Tommy
Canley did the Detroit Tigers one year. Okay, it's one
year and it's eight million dollars, but that's also more
money that you're not You're not it's on the books
that you can't spend on Alex Bregman. I mean, I wonder,

(01:46:59):
I gotta can conspiracy theory in the back of my head.
My conspiracy theory is that the Toronto Blue Jays have
offered the most money to Alex Bregman, but when you
factor in the tax matters, that it's not as lucrative
as some deals that he could possibly get elsewhere. And

(01:47:19):
I wonder what the long term implications for that for
the Toronto Blue Jays anyways, that they just have to
pay more everywhere else. Maybe Alex Bregman's is talking to
George Springer about It's like, hey, dude, what's going on there?

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
Man, they take so much in your taxes. I don't
even know if it's worth it. I would caution, although
George Springer would probably welcome Alex pregnant with open arms
over there, and as I think he still has time
left on his deal in Toronto. So that's kind of
my conspiracy theory is the most money being offered is
in Toronto, but it's just not as lucrative because of

(01:47:51):
the tax implications of it. And scoffing at the six
year one point fifty six deal that is been much
talked about offered from the Houston Astros. Maybe isn't looking
as bad as it did at the start of the offseason,
And how much does it factor in with Juan Soto,
and maybe Scott Boris saying, oh, oh, look at all

(01:48:14):
this money Wan Soto, guy, guys, the market is reset,
and then the other owners and general managers saying, the.

Speaker 3 (01:48:19):
Hell it has?

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
That guy's Juan Soto. Two things. Number One, he's a
generational prospect or generational player. Number Two, the Mets vastly
under overspent. That doesn't mean he reset the market for everyone,
because at some point, markets anywhere are going to hit
a tipping point to where if you push for more

(01:48:43):
and more and more and more and more and more,
at some point someone has to tap out. And is
that happening the last couple of years with Scott Boris
and his clients, because Blake Snell took it another year
for him to get the big deal that he wanted.
Whether the Dodgers just decided to go absolutely, you know what,

(01:49:06):
crazy and spend all this money, and also with Jordan
Montgomery and what he did, what happened with him, So
I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know how
this is gonna shake out. You just wait another year
and hope the Dodgers have a bunch of money to

(01:49:26):
throw at everything if the market is what it is.
I mean, we're into February almost, We're a couple of
days from February. We talked about that late deal happening
with Josh Hater. We were way past that. What was
that like the twenty first or something like that. And
that was also when the Astros had another injury to
their bullpen or like we got to do something. Jim
Cran's like, all right, fine, we want to win, Let's

(01:49:47):
go out there and get Josh Hater. And Josh Hayter
was good, but not great for the Astros. And also
he signed a five year deal, and we know that
Jim Crane does not like to go over five year
deals at the brink of where owners have pushed to
have been pushed too far by Scott Morris to where
there's enough pushback and unfortunate Alex Bregman is going to

(01:50:10):
be one of the ones that falls short of expectations
in the contract that he wants. I just as the
days roll on, I continue to be more and more
fascinated by this and more intrigued about how it is
going to play out. Where is Alex Bregman going to

(01:50:31):
factor in? Sounds like the Astros aren't interested. Sounds like
they've moved on, just from the comments of Dana Brown
and just from the payroll that they've been shedding with
the Ryan Presley deal. They weren't trying to shed payroll.
Ryan Presley would still be here. He's still a good reliever,
not great, maybe not worth the fourteen million dollars, But

(01:50:53):
the Astros sent money to the Chicago Cubs to get
him off the payroll. The Tigers not willing to spend money,
Red Sox not willing to give the years. What other
teams are interested? What other deals are out there for
Alex Bregman? Because the clock keeps ticking, or basically at
this point, a couple of weeks from pitchers and catchers reporting,

(01:51:16):
and in three weeks we will be out there the
Matt Thomas Show with Ross, Me and Matt Thomas out
there for the first full workouts. So we're three weeks
away from workouts, two weeks away from pitchers and catchers.
I mean, someone's got to give with Alex Bregman and
his potential landing spots. We shall see. It is getting

(01:51:37):
super interesting as we go along, and it's the time
continues to tick off the clock and we get closer
and closer to the beginning of the season. All Right,
We're gonna take quick break here on the Matt Thomas
Show with Ross. Matt Thomas is out. He is traveling
with the Houston Rockets. They'll be playing the Memphis Grizzlies tomorrow.
I am here with you. Adam Klant will be joining
at one o'clock. You can get in as well if

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ozer o'clock hour appreciate him hanging out. Chris Gordy was
hanging out for a while as well, but he had
to go do Chris Gordy things. So it's just me
and it's you on the phone lines. It's seven one
three two one two five seven nighty Ross virial with you.
Matt Thomas is out, he'll be back tomorrow. We've been

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talking a lot of stuff with the Alex pregnant thing
going on as the clock continues to tick on him
and where he is possibly going to be landing Texans
in the midst of their offensive coordinator search wall. So
as we go along, I have to start getting into
draft stuff. No shock that there's been a lot of

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mock drafts having them take either a tackle or defensive
interior or pass catcher as well. It was probably the
top three needs in order, offensive line, pass catcher, defensive interior.
If I were thinking out loud for your Houston Texans
phone lines open at seven one three two one two
five seven ninety couple, y'all getting in talckets some rockets ball,

(01:53:44):
Let's go. I love it Gary in spring go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
The floor is yours.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
Hey, I'm doing great.

Speaker 21 (01:53:50):
We have a good show going on there. Matt quit
taking off so much. Manthy's guess you got coming in here.
You guys got a pretty good thing going.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
So Matt better. Yeah, you're right, he better be careful.

Speaker 8 (01:54:01):
I'm with you, Gary, Hey, listen, Uh, I listened to
you guys. I deliver part.

Speaker 21 (01:54:07):
So I'm in the in and out of the car
all the time. And every once in a while, when
you guys go on a commercial, I'll switch to that other.

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
I don't know if you want to call it Gary.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
Come on, Gary, I expect you're better.

Speaker 8 (01:54:19):
Just every once in a while, man. So I want
to hear how stupid people can be. They don't even
take calls.

Speaker 21 (01:54:24):
You got a TwixT week, Uh, send a send the
something I don't know about, an email or something, and
then they just pick and choose, so you can't really
conversate with them anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:54:34):
I wanted to.

Speaker 9 (01:54:35):
They were talking about something.

Speaker 8 (01:54:36):
Earlier, and I want to see what you thought about it.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
Talking about all right?

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Gary, I'm sorry, man, the line continue to get worse
and worse. Try to call back. I appreciate you. I'm
glad we got the part of the call where you
complimented me, and so I'm glad that that part got in,
but try to call us back in a little bit. Gary, Uh,
the loss of threat on the line there. I appreciate you.
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety Rod
in Missouri City, go ahead.

Speaker 9 (01:54:59):
Hey, you doing Ross?

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
I'm good Rod.

Speaker 6 (01:55:01):
What's up?

Speaker 9 (01:55:03):
I got two questions man with two concerns. I should say.
I've been looking at all the pundit shows on the
various networks, and there are some of these guys that
keep talking about we one player away. I hope the
Rockets are. You can tell me rather if the Rockets
are considering making any kind of moves to bring somebody

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in here, I hope they keep the team as is
And just wanted to get your thoughts on that and
my other question. When Jabbari comes back gets healthy, does
anybody sit down? I hope they're not taking or considering
a men sitting back.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
Now, somebody sits down. Yeah, I won't be a men Thompson.
It just can't. I would be shocked if thoms goes
I would be utterly shocked if he goes back to
the bench. Now, does that mean the candidates are Jabari
Smith Junior because he has been out or or perhaps
Dylan Brooks, I don't think it's going to be Shagoon,
Jalen Green or Fred van Vliet. Those guys are too

(01:55:59):
valuable to of ushering in the offense and running the offense.
So it would be either in my mind, Dylan Brooks
at Jabari Smith Jr. But it might be Jabari Smith
Junior as the odd man out. But coach Dooka likes
Jabari Smith Jr. He likes using him as a as
a switchable one through five defender. He can knock down
the occasional three. You don't run a lot of stuff

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with him, but he has value, so it'll be interesting
to see. But the do everything on the floor prowess
of him and Thompson, I think you just it would
be foolish to take him out of the starting lineup
the way that he's been playing.

Speaker 9 (01:56:36):
What about making some kind of move a package to
get some Where is this coming from that we need
one more player? We want player that way?

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
It's a lot of talk. I mean, I don't look,
if I had to guess, Rod, I don't think that
we're going to see any splash trade now. Could it
be Jabari Smith Junior or somebody else or a Cam
Whitmore or read Shepherd is some other team wants to
give him some more minutes because he just really has
been squeezed by not being good enough to crack this

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Rocket's rotation. And some other team believes in him like
they did before the draft. And you can get a
valuable three and D wing or maybe even a big
man like a stretch four stretch five. You're gonna want
defense in three point shooting. That's where this team can
get better with the Houston Rockets. And however that manifests itself,
whether it's internal and the guy's shooting better threes, which

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they have been as of late, or whether that is
making a move. I don't think you'll see a major
move with the core pieces of this Rocket squad.

Speaker 3 (01:57:38):
Oh man, that's all right, thanks a lot, Rod, appreciate.

Speaker 2 (01:57:41):
You making the call. All right, there you go, Rod, Yeah, look,
it could happen. I'm just thinking out loud. And the
phrase that I always think of when when I'm looking
at this Rockets team, and I've been saying this for
weeks is trust the process would de Aaron Fox in theory,
if it's Fred van Vliet or Dylan Brooks and some

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pieces and a pick or two. Does he make this
team better? Absolutely? Do you want to shake up the
chemistry of this young core? That's something that Ruffel's don't
and any made Dooka and Rockets brass are going to
have to figure out how much more do you want?

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Because before this season we were talking about them being
seven through ten play in team. Now we're talking about
they're the two seed. Do you we've raised the expectations
externally because us as fans, we want championships, right, championship, championship,
championship or bust. They can't win it all right now
the way that they are. I don't think they will.
They're probably not better than the Thunder in a seven
game series, but I think they could beat anybody else

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in a seven game series. Probably fully healthy Nuggets would
be a problem. Same thing for the Grizz. The Rockets
are in that top four right now, They're in the mix,
and the Thunder to me far and away the best
team in the West as reflected by the standing. So
we'll see how much they they want to continue to

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rush and go all in or do they want to
take things slow even though expectations have raised externally, Have
they done that in the building for the Houston Rockets
seven one three, seven ninety Gary in the spring. Let's
try it again.

Speaker 3 (01:59:25):
Go ahead, Gary, Hey, can you hear me any better?

Speaker 21 (01:59:28):
Now?

Speaker 11 (01:59:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:59:28):
Go ahead?

Speaker 2 (01:59:29):
Sounds great?

Speaker 8 (01:59:30):
Okay, Yeah, no problem.

Speaker 21 (01:59:32):
I don't There's no way that they do any switch,
any changes right now in the Rockets. Why would you
take a team that is coming into its own and
playing at the best basketball and all of the.

Speaker 8 (01:59:43):
NBA and make a change? What? What?

Speaker 19 (01:59:45):
What?

Speaker 8 (01:59:45):
What do you want to change for when you're already
playing better than anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:59:49):
In the league.

Speaker 8 (01:59:50):
But Uh, the reason I was calling is, uh, people
are asking.

Speaker 21 (01:59:56):
Like I said, I talked listening that unshown very rarely
but every time y'all go to a commercial.

Speaker 8 (02:00:01):
But anyway, my question for you.

Speaker 21 (02:00:02):
Is that a lot of people are saying the best
player on the Rockets is Thompson number one. He's wearing
number one, Amen, Thompson. I have to disagree. I think
the best player. If I was to be told, be
like told I had to, I could only keep one
player on the Rockets team and the rebuild.

Speaker 8 (02:00:22):
I'm going to go with Green, Green without it down
in my mind, is the best player.

Speaker 21 (02:00:27):
He's got it all, and he's getting better along with
all of them. So my question to you is, who
do you think the best player on the Rockets team is.
I think Jalen Green is.

Speaker 2 (02:00:36):
Yeah, it's interesting, Gary, and thank you, appreciate you getting in.
It depends on how you want to look at it.
Jalen Green. First of all, they're both really good young pieces.
Jalen Green is twenty two years old. I believe Amn
Thompson is twenty one years old, so they both have

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room for growth. Jalen Green's three point shooting has made
a leap this year, but also it's kind of come back.
It's kind of a game to gain thing. He had
some of the worst numbers of his career, then he
won on a nine game stretch where'shooting fifty percent, and
then he goes up to like thirty six percent on
the year, and now he's back to thirty five. So
it's up and down with Jalen Green. Jalen Green peak
ceiling probably, Oh, it's a tough conversation. The more complete

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player is a Men Thompson, but I don't want to
sell short. Jalen Green's perimeter defense, it's gotten leaps and
bounds better. Whether you want to call it. I think
it's a focus. Want to also building strength over the
last couple of years, filling out his body, getting stronger
and better. Jalen Green's played some pretty good perimeter defense.
Now he doesn't guard big because he's not like blocking

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Evan Mobiley in the low block a seven footer like
a Men Thompson is so Amn Thompson certainly has the
advantage as a as a defender, but it's not as
big of a goalf as people think in my opinion,
even though men Thompson is a great, great defender, Jalen
Green's pretty good. Aman Thompson's probably a better playmaker, but

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he doesn't shoot as well. But they're both really valuable
and really good. I would say the ceiling of a
championship team, Jalen Green more likely to be your best
player than I am In Thompson. But Amn Thompson is
really really growing on me. He just does everything. If
Jalen Green reaches his full potential and he played like

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he did on that nine game stretch, it's probably Jalen
Green because you need in the NBA somebody like him
who can start offensive possessions with pick and rolls. To
where teams need to respect a three point shot, and
it's just it's difficult for Amn Thompson with everybody backs
off on him, but he still scores. He still finds
ways with basket cuts and putbacks and alley oops and
all that type of stuff. So he's probably the more

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efficient scorer because he gets a lot more easy baskets.
But Jalen Green creates his own offense probably better than
Amen Thompson does. Jalen Green went one for nine from
three last last night and still got twenty five points
because he was just getting to the basket. He is
so explosive, so you can call it what you want.
I guess if you really really made me, the most

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valuable player is Men Thompson. The player with the biggest
ceiling probably Jalen Green. It's into semantics at this point.
This team's really well built. You get to do everything
I Men Thompson, big man in the middle like Alprinchan
Goon who can drop thirty on you, Jalen Green doing
his thing on the wing, and you get the veteran
presence of a guys like Dylan Brooks and Fred Van Vliet,

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and the bench is pretty darn good too. All right,
we got to take a break. Went way over there.
On Sports Talk seven ninety The Matt Thomas Show with Ross.
We're gonna take a quick break. When we come back.
Adam Clinton will be in the building for the final
hour of The Matt Thomas Show with Ross without Matt Thomas.

Speaker 7 (02:03:50):
Lunchtimers. This is the Matt Thomas Show.

Speaker 4 (02:03:55):
Tries to get five van please the dotted circle. He
lost the basketball.

Speaker 5 (02:03:58):
That's the steal. Jack Landell is left for a man Thompson.

Speaker 4 (02:04:01):
Thompson gonna go down the lane with a two hand
flush and a basket gibbs the Rockets the lead at
thirty five. Thirty one keeps that left pivot fo still apparently,
and he throws a pass right in the hands of
him and Thompson.

Speaker 5 (02:04:13):
It's a three on two breaking Thompson right side.

Speaker 3 (02:04:15):
And a throrowdown b Jalen Green and.

Speaker 4 (02:04:19):
A timeout to Atlanta. Rockets take advantage of an Atlanta
mistake and turn it into a Jalen Green. James Landelle's
gonna set a screen Green to the left, goes around
it at the top of the key two in it
pass out to Fred Pump fakes nearly walk gets by
Young on the trail that Jay Shontat, he'll laying in
for two extra pass beautifully done that time by Freddy
seventy to sixty four.

Speaker 5 (02:04:39):
Houston a six point lead.

Speaker 4 (02:04:41):
If back out to Jalen Green with a reset nine
to shooting the shot clock one on one against Garrison Matthews.

Speaker 5 (02:04:46):
Green down the lane, floats it.

Speaker 4 (02:04:48):
Off the backboard and down, My goodness, a tough make
over to it, Atlanta Hawk defenders giving it back to
a congo and then on the handoff, it's a holiday
steal in front.

Speaker 5 (02:04:57):
Here goes Jay shon Tat, he'll jam it down.

Speaker 4 (02:05:00):
Hans Atlanta sixteenth turnover twenty one Houston points salt Atlantamus
six ten point nine seconds remaining on the sideline. Man
Thompson inbound, gott a hurry lobs in the back court
of ambleee with nine seconds lobs at left side. Janele
Green gets across the timeline right to Thompson inside the

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shame doing He's gonna flush it down with two hands
two point eight.

Speaker 5 (02:05:25):
Seconds left to go play.

Speaker 2 (02:05:28):
If we ride on them things light Your rockets were
welcome to Atlanta, and a warm welcome as they got
out with a victory, they're fourth in a row to
improve to thirty two and fourteen.

Speaker 5 (02:05:41):
On the year.

Speaker 3 (02:05:43):
Ros Viria with you.

Speaker 2 (02:05:44):
It is the Man Thomas Show with Ross without Man Thomas,
with Adam Clinton wearing Rockets gear. Yeah, well occasionally I
do this, yeah, like once a week or mom. So
how about them Rockets? What what is your kind of
feel You're in the building for a lot of the games.
I'm in the building for some of them as well.
We take calls, we work on this show. You're active

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on social media. It hasn't been necessarily an avalanche of
Rockets interests, but it feels like there has been a
significant uptick both locally and nationally with this team. The
league is unnoticed.

Speaker 3 (02:06:18):
You want an inside baseball way of quantifying what you're saying,
go ahead. So certain people that work at this station
that call the games, not named Adam get I think
I know who you're talking about. They get well, they
sometimes they work their shows, but not on days like today. No,
they get an allotment of tickets. Right, Yes, but for

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the peasants that are involved in the broadcast, by the way, yes,
and this is more people than you would think, uh huh,
Like anybody not named Craig or Matt. Now that you're bitter, No,
well I'm not bitter, but it's just it's a very
concise example showing what you're talking about. You would get

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a link where we could get tickets. It's it's allotment
of employee tickets. And that used to be four and
it used to be really really close to the floor,
usually in the club section, you know. And as the
roster and the coaching and the play itself has improved,

(02:07:22):
you better when that link gets sent out, it's like
chum in the water. You better get on it. To
the point where WEX and I will text each other
to remind it. Hey, the link in case you didn't change, dude, seriously,
we'll just say tickets at this point so that we
know we can get our two tickets that and look,
I'm not there. It's two free tickets. Well, I mean

(02:07:44):
I try to do a good deed and pass them all.
Sounds like a humble brag. Umm No, not Matt, as
I talk like him. No, it's I'm just it is.
It is indicative of the interest and the demand, so
it is up. It's absolutely to the point where I've
spoken with some people in the organization and they're kind

(02:08:04):
of concerned. Hey man, we need you know Texans anything
they do, well, yeah, it's the NFL. Same with the
ass But you're gonna get back to where here's the
difference this time around. When when they get to championship level,
which is a lot sooner than we thought it was
going to be, it looks like it's going to be better.
And here's my theory on this. They are an eminently

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more likable team already because even without a superstar, there's
not a James Harden personality on the roster. Because as
great as he was, not just good great, you would
walk into that arena if you had tickets to a
Rockets home game, you knew that there was absolutely, on
any given night, the possibility of a sixty point triple double.
Not even kidding, yeah, not hyperbole.

Speaker 6 (02:08:47):
It happened.

Speaker 2 (02:08:48):
And then it did happen one night, Orlando, I believe,
but you just you didn't.

Speaker 11 (02:08:53):
Really.

Speaker 3 (02:08:54):
He was not well liked around the league. There was
a lot of people in the fan base who hated him,
and there was people in the fan base and there's
people like me, you know that like dislike him.

Speaker 2 (02:09:02):
For other reasons after the fact. Why has he got
in a fight with Daryl Morey? No, he didn't get
in a fight with Daryl Moray. Did he steal your
girl at Dreams? No, my girl was never at Dreams.
Just the way he left town.

Speaker 3 (02:09:17):
Okay, it's weird because like I feel like, you know,
ho t Mac has been kind of welcomed back into
the fold after his kind of his departure was like
not anywhere near his acrimony and getting his own doctor
and all that stuff. His micro fracture surgery was announced
on Sports Center.

Speaker 2 (02:09:34):
Didn't they tell him not to get micro fracture surgery
and then he did or something like that maybe, but
the team found out about it the way we did.
That was the big problem that he was. He was
like going rogue with his own doctor or something.

Speaker 3 (02:09:45):
But other than like the it's my fault rant and
never making it out of the first round, it's my fault.
I'm sorry. You know what I used to have that heinekas.
He did get a lot more bland than he deserved.
Oh my gosh, it was never so if he was healthy,
he was.

Speaker 2 (02:10:00):
Like Jack, Oh, no, I only have the.

Speaker 3 (02:10:03):
I'm sorry, Oh, you just have the show. Yeah, I
only have this short draw. You need the long you
need the extended director's cut. Where did it go? I'm
sure you have some other Team Max stuff in there.
That's good. He had some. He had some doozies. He
was fun to cover though, Like he was net for
a guy who was a ACTI this one. You know
our faalleest coaches. That's that's Coobs. That is us as

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bona fide of a superstar as he was. Like there
was a time, believe it or not, people will never
remember this, but the season before he got traded to
the Rockets, people were legit arguing, all right, who's better
Tracy McGrady or Kobe Bryant. That was a thing. Yeah,
and then he got hurt all the time here and
it kind of took the luster off of that. While
he did this, Dollar's.

Speaker 5 (02:10:47):
Fourteenth in points at eighth and field goal defense.

Speaker 7 (02:10:50):
So that says a lot.

Speaker 8 (02:10:51):
Here comes Buck.

Speaker 3 (02:10:53):
Suck gravity of the building. Now, let's be honest about
that play. What There's a couple things. There's three things involved.
First of all, Sean Bradley, may he rest that effectively?
I know that effectively dunked him into retirement. You know, what.
I don't want to do this anymore anymore. That play
game playoffs. That was a playoff series in which the

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Rockets were I remember. But that play that dunk, as
amazing as it was, is not as good as it
is without Kevin Harlan on the call of course not
Oh my gosh, you don't think of that. You don't
have that on standby. He just pulled that out of
thin air, and it was just I think he had
used that call before. Actually, Patty has stuck the gravity
out of the building. Well, I'd never heard it. He's

(02:11:37):
used it twice. I don't know what order, if that
was the first one, or if the next one was
the first one? Was that two thousand and five? Or
or am I thinking of with no regard for human life?
Did use bats? Which number says that all the time?

Speaker 18 (02:11:47):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:11:47):
I know, yeah, but once you do some James with
no regard for human life. That was great, dunked all
over Kevin Garnett.

Speaker 3 (02:11:54):
Lebron's never sucked the good right out of the building
though he's never excuse me, le Bron has never sucked
the gravity right out of the building. Did astutta you
get it?

Speaker 8 (02:12:07):
That time?

Speaker 2 (02:12:08):
He's had a few dunks here. Anyways, what were we
talking about? I don't know, Uh, just the rocket the
fan base.

Speaker 3 (02:12:14):
The fan base is going to embrace this roster more
easily to casuals, even the national. Okay, look at the
slobbering that that zach Low and company have done this
week alone, Like, oh, you guys are just now seeing
Rockets games. You didn't know that a men Thompson's a
cyborg yet. Yes, zach Low follows the league, he knew
about him and Thompson. All right, Well, some people didn't
like Jalen Green, so people were calling him a bust.

(02:12:39):
He's raising his hand. You can't see me, Adam. It
is radio.

Speaker 2 (02:12:42):
We're not on TV until three o'clock here on Sports
Talk seven.

Speaker 6 (02:12:45):
Hoy.

Speaker 2 (02:12:45):
All right, Adam Clann's in the fold. We're gonna talk
some Rockets. Ryan Presley had some interesting comments. We'll get
to that. We talked Bregman. We've been talking Texans. Oh
see anything you want to get to as well, Adam
plant into the fold. Ross Viria with you at seven
one three two one two five seven ninety seven one
three two one two five seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (02:13:04):
Matt Thomas ross.

Speaker 1 (02:13:05):
Viel It's the Matt Thomas Show with Rossi Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (02:13:21):
Welcome back to the Matt Thomas Show. I was completely
disrespectful to one of my boss I'm struggling. Are you sick?

Speaker 7 (02:13:29):
Which is it?

Speaker 3 (02:13:31):
Is it both? Did you stay up too late playing
video game? Oh? I didn't. I actually got I took
night Quille.

Speaker 2 (02:13:37):
But I think I've been having a bit of a
cough and I think it's I don't know, it's growing
and getting worse. And I apologiz I'm gonna wipe everything
down for Adam Clinton.

Speaker 3 (02:13:44):
I'm over here.

Speaker 2 (02:13:45):
I don't I don't want to be the guy I'm
sorry for Adam Wexler. See, I can't even my brain's
not even working. This morning, getting out of my car,
I spilled somehow spilled my coffee that I bring my
my coal brew, that I make it home. I somehow
spilled it on my head, then on your pan. Then
I was getting a napp and I put it on
the top of my car. It immediately rolled off the
top of my car and felt And then I went

(02:14:06):
to go buy a sandwich from the deli and I
paid for it and I walked out and I didn't
take my sandwich.

Speaker 3 (02:14:11):
Oh how many? How much sleep did you get last night?

Speaker 2 (02:14:13):
I got like, well, I don't know. I can tell
you actually, Oh yeah, you have an app for that.

Speaker 14 (02:14:17):
I do.

Speaker 2 (02:14:18):
So you're you sound like Teresa two nights to go.
I got seven hours of sleep, only two hours deep?

Speaker 6 (02:14:24):
She uh, she did?

Speaker 3 (02:14:25):
She was not doing deep.

Speaker 2 (02:14:26):
So I see you, you son of a gun as
deep sleep twelve. No, it's fine, cut it, it's all.
It's good. It makes a segment better on Friday.

Speaker 3 (02:14:34):
So I'll see you. Look at that.

Speaker 2 (02:14:37):
He's got a bleak on his face Friday open. I
also said slippery and wet earlier. It's been a bad
day from a great bon jovie. Everything, everything that I've
said today, I'll see you on Friday. And that's okay.
I'm not I'm not looking for something. I'm just telling
you like I get it. I'm strug getting you know
I have, because I've got a little guy who's now
in grade school. These these people old is your child?

Speaker 3 (02:15:00):
He's six and a half. What the hell I know?
We just walked home from the hospital. Just happened. Well,
partly you missed them for like a year because I
was unemployed with my unpaid vacation for eleven month. Let
me tell you, you don't want to be unemployed when
you have your first biological child. You just don't. What
about non biological Well, I've got to she was nine
when I don't want to be unemployed ever. But you don't,

(02:15:22):
like you feel pretty small. But like so that took
a year.

Speaker 14 (02:15:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:15:26):
The point of it is when you're when they go
to grade school, automatically, you just get up at ungodly
hours to take them to school, even if you don't
have Like me, I don't work until the afternoon into
the night. And the point of all this is if
I know it's a Rockets game night the next night,
like tonight, I'll be doing pre game preparations for tomorrow's game.
And it's not even a late game, but especially if
it's a West Coast game, it's a late game Tomorrow,

(02:15:49):
it's it's later.

Speaker 10 (02:15:50):
Oh it is.

Speaker 3 (02:15:52):
That means I'm going to be It means I'm making
a pit stop for dinner. I have a place to
like to go when I know it's a later game
and I have a little bit more time between the
show and the and the broadcast.

Speaker 2 (02:16:00):
It's like a Magic City type place. No, why do
you keep sending me to strip clubs. I'm just kidding
two segments. Now that you've done this, I'm gonna try
to do it, Okay, remind me to do it the
rest of the show.

Speaker 3 (02:16:09):
Somebody asked me. They were like, oh, the Rockets are
in Atlanta and they have an extra day and they've
been traveling on a back to back. Are they staying there?
And without even like asking anybody, I was like, there's
no way they're not staying in Atlanta. Do you know
where they were today? Atlanta? I mean I know that.

Speaker 2 (02:16:23):
Think they flew out today during they were flying out
during the show. That's why Matt is off. Oh I
thought he was off just because he was, you know,
a pansy I mean tomato potato.

Speaker 9 (02:16:35):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (02:16:36):
If he's in Los Angeles and they just played in
Sacramento the night before and so his show starts at
you know, two hours ahead of time locally, it's way
more of a wake up call and turn around. Yes,
but come on, but if there's a flight during the show,
I can't fault him for that. Well, I think it
is a flight during the show. That's fine. He's very busy,

(02:16:56):
very busy young man all right, makes a lot of money. Hey, guys,
I just wanted to talk about this Rockets team. They
are a lot of fun to watch right now. Winning
that game last night.

Speaker 22 (02:17:14):
I think Ross had him losing in yesterday's show, and
and they ended up surprising us.

Speaker 23 (02:17:19):
I mean, yeah, what what predict him to lose the Hawks?
Because it was after an emotional win in Boston? Thinking
of me, it's normal to say they're going to lose
to the Hawks.

Speaker 2 (02:17:31):
Yeah, I didn't say that.

Speaker 3 (02:17:32):
I said, did you listen to the beginning of the
A team yesterday?

Speaker 6 (02:17:34):
Chris?

Speaker 9 (02:17:36):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (02:17:36):
Probably not. I should though, but I didn't. That's thanks
a lot for nothing. I'm the one that actually said
that though. Because it was an emotional win in Boston,
I figured they might lay an egg, and they almost did.
They tried hard.

Speaker 2 (02:17:45):
Hi, my name is Ross. I did not say what
you said, Chris. Adam is owning up to it. So
he said to the Chris, we appreciate you you were
Come on, man, But that's what didn't even sound like.
I know we don't have the same name like other shows,
but that's a sign of a good team, right. You know,

(02:18:08):
he may really wanted that game in Boston. He really
wanted that one and they win. Last night.

Speaker 22 (02:18:15):
They're play team basketball, which I really enjoy watching the most,
you know, the team basketball, and Jalen Green, I think
he's been suring before our eyes in Boston. I noticed
he was he didn't have it, and he knew he
didn't have it. He knew Dylan Brooks had it. He

(02:18:38):
only shot thirteen shots, went three for thirteen against Boston,
and he passed up shots for attempt. You know, he
could have pulled up a few times, but decided to
pass the ball. And I think when Jalen plays like this,
our team is really really good. And I'm really hoping,

(02:18:58):
guys that we don't make any moves, keep this team
together this year and let's just see how far they go.

Speaker 2 (02:19:04):
Thanks, thank you, Chris, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (02:19:06):
Chris, I said that yesterday I made a definitive statement,
do not make a deal with the deadline, trust the process,
stay the course. Think about this, and I know that
maybe people have a mixed, mixed bag of emotions on
Jabari Smith Junior, given that he was supposed you know,
he's taken top three in the draft, so you would
have figured that a guy taking that high is just
going to be a game changer. And the Rockets had

(02:19:28):
so many picks at the top of the draft so
many years in a row. But he was just kind
of like rounding into form right before the hand injury.
And I feel like you should look at his return
because it's going to be after the All Star breaking
all likelihood. I think you should look at his return
as like your trade deadline acquisition this year, because.

Speaker 2 (02:19:46):
You're doing all this. Oh, that's very Dana Brown of you.
No getting him back, It's just like a trade deadline acquisition.
I didn't him in hall, and I didn't say to
look at the back of a baseball card. That would
be Dan Run the back of his basketball card. He's
really playing well. Then he got hurt, and it's it
almost like making a deadline day deal getting Jabari Smith
chew in your back after the deadline.

Speaker 5 (02:20:05):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (02:20:05):
But look at Okay, what month of the calendar of
the Rockets played their best basketball this month? January? Yeah,
you lost him January third, the day of the Celtics game.
You got creamed here at home. And since that game,
give or take, you have absolutely taken off.

Speaker 18 (02:20:22):
No.

Speaker 3 (02:20:22):
And by the way, you didn't have a men Thompson
that night in the starting in the lineup at all
because he had thrown Tyler Hero down like that. That's
degenerate he is, And it's a men Thompson in the
starting lineup, which by the way, is not going to
change when Jabari comes back. He's coming in off the bench.

Speaker 2 (02:20:38):
I would look, it's gonna be either him or possibly
Dylan Brooks, but it's not going to be a men Thompson.

Speaker 3 (02:20:43):
A men Thompson is not going to the bench. I'm
with you, I don't think that's happening. So you would
put a minute to three, put Jabari at the four
and Shingones the five if you were to say, I've
got to have Jabari back, because here's how I think.

Speaker 2 (02:20:54):
If you if you really it probybe depends on the
matchups where you want to have two bigs out there,
or if you don't be because you are lacking inside.
Is its Shingoon, Amn Thompson Brooks, which it has has been,
then then yeah you're kind of missing something as far
as a size if you're going up against some really
good big men or.

Speaker 3 (02:21:11):
Something like that.

Speaker 2 (02:21:12):
So it could be matchup dependent, but it just seems
like there's no way you can keep him in Thompson
from or should from playing like forty forty two minutes
a night like he has been, because he seems to
have like limitless energy. He's always out there and playing hard.

Speaker 3 (02:21:25):
Well, he comes in with like say, like the old
the old rotation, he would come in off the bench,
well that's what six seven minutes into the game, yeah,
depending and then he would play forty minutes anyways, So
all you're doing by not starting him is taking him
out of the you know, tone setting crucial start of

(02:21:45):
a game, especially if you're going up against a stud team,
and then just saving that for later when he's gonna
end up paying the same amount of minutes anyways, So
why not just I'm not saying that they would be
the new Terror twins, but Jabbari and Tari off the bench.
First of all, their names rhyme, so it already goes.
And secondly, you've got that size coming off the bench
after a man has already done demon things for the

(02:22:05):
first six or seven minutes in the first quarter, it
would be.

Speaker 2 (02:22:08):
Yeah, I mean, if you're staggering, depending on how you
would want offenses to flow, having a men, Thompson can
can run point for you, Fred van Vliet, Jalen Green
alprinching gun. You probably want at least two of those
on the floor at a time, and you'd be starting
all four. So it'd be something for Ima Adoka to
figure out'd be one of them good problems, like, oh no,

(02:22:30):
a men, Thompson's playing like one of the best players
in basketball with now this is horrible. So they'll figure
it out. But I think at the end of the day,
there's just no way you can keep him in Thompson
out of the starting lineup. He just does too many things,
and he's at his best when he doesn't have to
have to come in and run offense, where he can
be off ball and be cutting to the basket and

(02:22:51):
getting weak side blocks and all that tided steals and
running all over the floor and just wrecking a game
on both sides of the floor, which he's been able.

Speaker 3 (02:22:58):
To do on this stretch. He's just I mean, he's
such a and I saw you say this, you know,
last night, some semblance of this. He's such a joy
to watch it. There's such a I mean, it sounds cheesy,
but like it's fun. They put you in a good mood.
It's like, what's a man gonna do next?

Speaker 12 (02:23:14):
You know?

Speaker 3 (02:23:14):
Is crazy?

Speaker 12 (02:23:15):
Right?

Speaker 3 (02:23:15):
But it's not just him now, he's the one that
I keep my eye on lately. I mean I just
say it. I want to have his babies.

Speaker 14 (02:23:21):
I do.

Speaker 3 (02:23:22):
That's you know, theoretically or metaphorically. We say a lot
of stuff. And you should clip by the way, Connor,
like you should probably start to listen all day. He's
not on the clock. He's got to get his lifts in,
he's got to go, I don't know, hang out with
his lady. He's busy, man. I mean, ladies, you got
right now. Connor just the he's whittled it down. He's
whittled it down. Does she listen or something you are
tell me about? Why are you winking? Why is your

(02:23:44):
face getting all red? Do doesn't know? Why are you
holding up four fingers?

Speaker 2 (02:23:51):
I'm just kidding. He's not doing any of that.

Speaker 14 (02:23:53):
I met his lady.

Speaker 3 (02:23:54):
What was her name again? I forgot? Sorry?

Speaker 2 (02:23:55):
Yeah, what is her name? I met her at the
at the work party?

Speaker 3 (02:23:58):
Names?

Speaker 8 (02:23:59):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (02:24:00):
Oh wait, okay, sorry, you don't have to say I'm sorry, no,
and it's okay, no, you don't have to say I
saw her at the work for It party.

Speaker 20 (02:24:06):
See, I was not.

Speaker 2 (02:24:06):
See that's a veteran emerge from a guy that does
have multiple girls. I'm not gonna say her name. I'm
just gonna keep a protect the innocent, very smart contray.
But I'm kidding again, whatever your name was, I forgot.

Speaker 3 (02:24:16):
I'm sorry. It was a nice meeting you.

Speaker 2 (02:24:18):
Impression break here. I'm horrible with names, horrible with texting.
I didn't know half the people were in that party.

Speaker 3 (02:24:25):
Is their first names, and I've met them all for
fifteen years, you know, And I know that that Ross
will return my text if he's asking me to help
host the show.

Speaker 8 (02:24:32):
Uh, now that I.

Speaker 2 (02:24:33):
Text you first with that, So what's there to respond?
But you respond right away too? Yeah, if you say yes,
I say thanks. But if it's something else, it might
be three days. Yeah, it might be un dependable.

Speaker 6 (02:24:42):
All right.

Speaker 19 (02:24:44):
Me?

Speaker 3 (02:24:45):
Come on now, go set your expectation level too high.

Speaker 2 (02:24:48):
We're gonna take a break here on the Matt Thomas
Show with Ross, without Matt Thomas, with Adam Clinton. You
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Speaker 1 (02:24:58):
Ninety lunchtimers, lunch timers, It's the Matt Thomas Show with
Ross on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:25:17):
Oh, Hi, welcome back to The Matt Thomas Show with
Ross without Matt Thomas, with Adam Clinton and Connor McGovern
and you at seven one three two one two five
seven ninety seven one three two one two five seven ninety.
I don't eve remember what i was going to talk
about this segment, so I'm letting Jesus take the wheel.

(02:25:38):
We're going to the phones, baby. Oh, David and Kingwood you,
I'm gonna leave this one to you. Adam Clinton, he
wants to talk to some Koog's basketball.

Speaker 20 (02:25:44):
Oh good, let's talk Adam and Ross y'all doing how
you know?

Speaker 3 (02:25:48):
How's it going good?

Speaker 20 (02:25:50):
I know talk Coueger is when I you're mad on here,
but uh, I'm a Ross gets a lot of that,
uh love knowledge, and chamill mad a little bit about it.
But hey, my question was this year, by the way
big game and not against West Virginia another top twenty
five game. It just seems to me this year I

(02:26:10):
thought I'll never say this, but I think the coops
are actually I think one of the better teams they've
had in four or five years, which sounds ludicrous, but
I mean they're playing some tight games, they're winning some
big games. They've only lost to Alabama, Auburn and who
that Saint.

Speaker 6 (02:26:30):
There you go.

Speaker 20 (02:26:30):
They were top twenty five at the time, and I
think two of those games went in overtime. They lost
all of them about three points. But man, the back
horse looking strong. I love who Uzan's coming along with
the point guard looking really good. But in the national
media and some of these n C DOAA websites I'll follow,
they're not getting no love at all. It's like they
don't even mention them. They they'll drop back to a

(02:26:53):
team outside of top twenty five or something and talk
about them all day long, But no coups.

Speaker 7 (02:26:58):
Is that just normal?

Speaker 20 (02:26:59):
Is that just you of h just the way it
always been? Because I think their team is strong this year,
and I like the way that team's coming together. They
look the Biggs are really coming on the sharp. You know,
Roberts and those play really good together. Just catch all
saw any anything y'all want to add to that, I'm
just want to send with you. So I'm proud of them.

(02:27:20):
They're looking tough.

Speaker 3 (02:27:21):
All right, thank you, David, appreciate it, Adam, go ahead.
I loved the game against Kansas the other night. That
was crazy because of the way that I mean, it
was insane. The regulation you're like, they're down was seventy
nine and seventy three I think, and that game was
going to go to double overtime and the the Kugs
are gonna win. You wouldn't have necessarily thought that, but

(02:27:41):
with I think it was what fourteen seconds remained.

Speaker 2 (02:27:44):
Yeah, you had the Kansas going to the line up
six with like sixteen seconds or fifteen or whatever it was,
and they lost that game. But to me, the difference
this year is the offense to where they've always had
great defense. They've always played hard, they've had one of
the best defenses. But at least I love looking at
Ken Palm. They have them right now as the number

(02:28:04):
two team in the country. They have them with the
number one defense but a top ten offense. The shooting
has been there for them to the level that it
hasn't been in the last couple of years. So with
a Calvin Sampson team and the caller mentioning Ouzon and
I mean, you know, some of the usual suspects LJ. Crier,
Manual Sharp. They can score and they can shoot to

(02:28:25):
where in games in years past where the other team
just happens to get hot and they get down a
little bit, it's a lot harder for them to come back.
But they can do it now because it's more complete
team than they have had in the last several years.
And I think that that hot shooting bodes super well
for a tournament, a winner take all type of elimination

(02:28:46):
tournament that you're going to be in to where yeah,
if the team, the team's always going to be able
to get defense, but the other other team gets hot,
you can get hot with them because this offense has
been a lot better than it has been in the
last several years.

Speaker 3 (02:28:57):
You know, it's funny. Somebody asked me yes yesterday to
rank rank my interest level in sports. They gave me
pro and college football, pro and college basketball baseball. I
think those were a five, okay, I said, pro football, baseball,

(02:29:21):
college football basketball though those are pretty interchangeable, like NBA
basketball fifty levels of crap and then most college basketball.
That's how I responded, Yeah, I think it's just now
you of h just does not apply to because they're
they're their own. There's some elite teams where it's like, Okay,

(02:29:41):
I'm willing to put up with these little court But
for the most part, college basketball, to me is such
an inferior product from the pro level, just the little
things like, yeah, free throw shooting, or just shooting in general.

Speaker 2 (02:29:55):
It's like anything when you watch college baseball, like when
you know, usually it's around like around the Big twelve,
well it used to be the Big twelve, now the
SEC Tournament. That's when I kind of start paying a
little bit attention to Texas baseball and you're watch and
you're like, oh my god, these guys are such a
level below of anywhere near what you see. It can
be kind of a shot if you're not into it,
if you don't watch game to game. If you're into

(02:30:17):
college basketball, yeah, you kind of get you get used
to it because the NBA players are just that much better.
It's anything like making layups, shot making offenses, like seventy
five eighty percent of the time college offense is them
just passing it around the perimeter and then some guy
goes and tries to take on a defender and puts
up a mid range shot, or there's not a whole
lot of flow offensively you have, especially the best teams,

(02:30:41):
they try to win with their defense and they don't
run these crazy good, high scoring, high flying offenses. You
just don't necessarily have the shooters, the quickness and all
that type of stuff because if you do, that guy's
gone after one year because he's gone to the NBA. Right,
So the product is a little bit diluted. But also
maybe it's something that's never been ingrained with you. And

(02:31:02):
you know, I'm not trying to uh smirch the great
Sam Houston State Bearcats college basketball program, but my passion
with college basketball lies within the Longhorns, because yeah, when
I was going school there and I went to a
lot of games and I loved it, and Royal Ivy
who's an assistant with the Rockets and all those other
guys back in the day and the Kenton Paulinos, La
Marcus Aldridge or whatever. Like it's kind of ingrained in

(02:31:24):
me in a way. But the product itself, Yeah, if
you don't really have a rooting interest, it's it's not
it's not a great product.

Speaker 3 (02:31:32):
Yeah, that's that. I mean that sentence right there, sums
it up for me because I do with you, of
h I do you know I want I have been
dying for Kelvin Samson to win at the highest level
of that game since he left the Rockets. I mean
it just became a huge fan of his when he
was an assistant, and I just feel like he's been

(02:31:54):
right there knocking on the door. But like so many
and I see, I think this is the case, especially
in college, it's just such a so many things have
to go your way. It's very baseball in that way.
I feel like so many things have to go your way.

Speaker 11 (02:32:06):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:32:09):
A bounce ball here there, it's the Longhorns going to
the national championship game, and I thought that was at
a facto national championship anyways, the football side of things,
but especially with basketball college basketball, the tournament. That's why
the tournament's so great. That's also about the time I
start showing any interest in it. Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2 (02:32:25):
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Speaker 24 (02:34:46):
Go ahead, Yes, sir, I have a comment about the
Buffalo Kansas City game. One of the co owners of
the Bills has filed that the game be replayed or forfeit.
I can the city, and she's also calling for a
boycott of the game. It was so blatantly irresponsible calls why.

Speaker 11 (02:35:11):
I just saw it on my phone.

Speaker 24 (02:35:12):
It was an Asian looking lady. She's a co owner
of the post, is what it said, and she's filing
something in regards to that.

Speaker 3 (02:35:19):
What was this posted by? I?

Speaker 11 (02:35:22):
You know what, I didn't pay a lot of attention
to that, but.

Speaker 24 (02:35:26):
I was going to ask you, guys, I mean that
sounds like nothing in history ever happened like this. I mean,
but so, why wouldn't it be a four fourth.

Speaker 3 (02:35:35):
Game or replay the game? There's no way that's going
to happen. Yeah, I haven't.

Speaker 2 (02:35:41):
I'm googling bills will owner M. Yeah, I don't think
this is I haven't seen anything like that.

Speaker 24 (02:35:51):
Well, that may have been, like you just said, it
may have been things pump up people dying, famous people
dying and all that kind of crowd it's not even
true spoke. I'm going to ask you guys, I guess there.

Speaker 3 (02:36:02):
Is no possibility forfeit.

Speaker 11 (02:36:05):
I mean, I mean, did you see the replay of
some of those plays.

Speaker 24 (02:36:10):
It's ridiculous, intentional, blatant and intentional. Why why couldn't there
be a forfeit or replay?

Speaker 11 (02:36:17):
Replay the game?

Speaker 3 (02:36:18):
You was supposed to forfeit.

Speaker 11 (02:36:20):
Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (02:36:21):
So Kansas City is going to one.

Speaker 24 (02:36:23):
I don't know if I don't know if Buffalo would
have won anyway, but Kansas City, because the Red were
definitely favoring, unfairly favoring Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (02:36:34):
Is going to then turn around and say we won
this game. But it didn't really look like it was.

Speaker 2 (02:36:38):
No, this is this is fake news. Oh my god,
black whoever did that? I just found it? Uh it's
on Facebook? Was did you see it on Facebook?

Speaker 3 (02:36:47):
Larry?

Speaker 2 (02:36:47):
Yeah, yeah, yes, sir, yes, fake I'm reporting this post
right now.

Speaker 3 (02:36:51):
Fake news. Probably posted by dismissed Jim Acosta.

Speaker 24 (02:36:56):
They got me all ruled up over nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:36:59):
But there's no Make sure you check the sources of
these things I've been seeing, because I went on Facebook
and there was some stuff about the Texans and it
was like completely one hundred percent false.

Speaker 3 (02:37:10):
Mark Zuckerberg, what's going on? Mark Zuckerberg?

Speaker 2 (02:37:15):
I was blocking It's it's these accounts. They they just
manufacture this stuff for shares and likes and it's not real.

Speaker 3 (02:37:21):
Yeah, okay, thank you guys. I just wanted to throw
that in there. Do you ever watch did you ever watch?
I should say the what was it called the social media.

Speaker 2 (02:37:32):
Well, the soul, the social well, the social network, social network,
the game, I mean the the movie about movie with
uh yeah, with Justin Timberlake playing the role of the
guy who'd in been a hopster. That's all I perfect
post says that, Yeah, they demanding NFL replaced rever lees
and reschedule game against match fixing allegations. No, this is

(02:37:52):
not real. I'm reporting all these. I'm reporting all these
let's see scam false information. I'm reporting all these. You talk,
this is everywhere on Facebook. Oh my god, it's Facebook's
a cesspool.

Speaker 3 (02:38:11):
Facebook during election season is basically like some sort of
like capital punishment.

Speaker 2 (02:38:17):
This has been posted by like ten accounts. There is
no basis for any of this.

Speaker 3 (02:38:22):
Do you think based on the social media platform hell
you're using at any given time is like perfectly in
line with the intelligence level of its user. Like in
other words, if you were to rank the intelligence levels,
and that's very very very low on all everywhere, like

(02:38:43):
where would you how would getting worse? How would you
slot Instagram versus x versus Facebook.

Speaker 2 (02:38:49):
They're all bottom of the barrel.

Speaker 3 (02:38:50):
Yeah, but you have to rank them. I have to rank,
you have to, So what's the worst? God like, by
by and large on the Facebook, Facebook, I would say
is the worst.

Speaker 2 (02:38:59):
I don't really use Instagram much. I'm trying to build
it up though. At sports r V.

Speaker 3 (02:39:03):
Give us a follow. Oh it's nice. You can use
your same handle there. Somebody Adam Clanton with no underscore,
who doesn't even use his account, is keeping me from
having it all across there. You know what, while you're
looking for Adam Clinton, follow me at sports I like
in comment on your posts.

Speaker 9 (02:39:22):
I do.

Speaker 2 (02:39:22):
You're the only one I appreciate that.

Speaker 10 (02:39:24):
Well.

Speaker 3 (02:39:25):
You know, when I was on that eleven month on
paid vacation, there wasn't a lot of people that checked
in on me, but you were one of them. That's good. Uh, well,
that's not good that people weren't checking in on you.
But okay, I've got Steve Steve BUSHEMI like list of
people that I keep track of.

Speaker 2 (02:39:40):
I call that guy h all right, something of keep
an eye on. Hopefully the FEDS aren't listening to this.
The FED anyways, what are we talking about? FED are
getting revamped right now? Fake news? I think I have
that somewhere.

Speaker 3 (02:39:55):
Yeah, you played all these where are all your trump
is you? I have them, but I mean I this
is give me the Chinese. Oh God, come on, the
checkers child. That one, it's so good. I used to
use all these, but I was a producer. So oh
is this one?

Speaker 4 (02:40:12):
Is this one like a chess player grandmaster playing against
a checker's child.

Speaker 3 (02:40:19):
That's the best part. I don't even know the context
of that.

Speaker 2 (02:40:21):
You know, my favorite one was this one.

Speaker 7 (02:40:23):
If Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her
all right with that?

Speaker 3 (02:40:26):
Wouldn't we all know why.

Speaker 14 (02:40:31):
This is?

Speaker 2 (02:40:32):
You won't say that about your daughter anyways, Apparently you do.
If she looks like that, she could do better than
Jared Kushner. Let's face it, he looks like a weenie.
I'm just gonna let that marinate.

Speaker 3 (02:40:46):
Hey, there's not a.

Speaker 2 (02:40:46):
Show with Matt Thomas and Ross. But not with Matt Thomas.

Speaker 3 (02:40:50):
He's out.

Speaker 2 (02:40:51):
Adam Clanton, I mean, I do appreciate you hanging out.

Speaker 3 (02:40:54):
I do what I can.

Speaker 2 (02:40:55):
Four more hours of Adam Clanton with Adam Weser. I'm
gonna go rest because.

Speaker 3 (02:41:03):
I need the rest. You may really be mean, Yes,
I'm gonna send you to men's t clinic.

Speaker 2 (02:41:08):
No, Synergenics for Live, Synergenics Health dot com s y
n E r gen Xhealth dot Com.

Speaker 3 (02:41:14):
All right, Uh, that's it for me.

Speaker 2 (02:41:16):
Enjoy Adam and Adam and the A team don't go anywhere.

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