December 20, 2024 • 7 mins
Ryan Hollins, former NBA center and Space City Home Network commentator, joins "The Matt Thomas Show with Ross" to discuss the defensive growth of Houston Rockets guard Jalen Green following a 133-113 win over the New Orleans Pelicans on Thursday night.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ryan Hollins from our friends at Space City and the
Rockets TV Network with us here on the program, and
we've got a phone call. Wants talk about a little
Rockets if you want to get into anything. And Ryan's
well versed in just about every sport because he is
a sports fan through and through, and of course you
hear him on the weekends here on Fox Sports Radio
during the offseason seven one three two one two five,
seven ninety seven to one three two one two five
(00:20):
Sevenini Jackson Montrose, jack thanks for waiting.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good morning. You're on seven ninety.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Good morning guys. I was just giving you a quick
call to really find out. It seems like Jalen Green
has been way more engaged in the defensive end of
the book the court as of lately. I know he
had all the points last night, but I just want
to hear from Ryan on maybe why that is.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
May you spot on Jalen wants to win.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
You know, he's kind of shown that he can score
forty points in the NBA. Uh, you know, he can
play with the league's best. But this is a group
that hadn't won. And for Jalen, he's trying to find
his way. And I think the most important thing to
me that I've seen from him mentality wise is not
(01:06):
just that he's trying hard and his best defensively, and
he's being much more physical than we've seen him be
in the past. But when somebody else is rolling or
somebody's having a good game, go watch Jalen Green.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Man.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
He's celebrating his guys, he's cheering. I feel like he's
truly giving himself to this team and the team's gonna
need his scoring. But yes, defensively, he's saying, man, I
don't want to be that guy that doesn't fit in.
And for a while, you know, you'd see like a
guy like jay shon Tate Madden correct me if I'm wrong.
Jay Shontate would be diving on the floor, hustling, doing
all these things. And it's like, well, jay Shawn is
(01:40):
playing super hard. He's the only guy out there doing that,
And now you got a whole group of Rockets that
are playing hard.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
So you're that odd man out. You don't want to
be that.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
So Jayden Green don't want to see Tarry Easton and
the men and Dylan and all these guys and Fred
working hard defensively, and then him not doing the same.
So that's why you're you know, a part large part
of reason. And he may do udulka obviously why you're
seeing Jayleen Green work his tail off defensively. Now, man,
that the effort has really been there. So heads off
to you for applauding that and seeing those efforts.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
No, when he was in the game against I think
it was Golden State and it was Chari and Amen
and Jabbari and Dylan and they left Jalen in the
game and the Rockets went on a little bit of
a run like everyone.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Was seeing it.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
So it's just interesting to see that has given him
a little bit of leeway on the defensive side.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Well, here's the thing is e May can forgive a misshot,
he can forgive maybe even a turnover. He ain't gonna
forgive is defensive assignment miss you know, And that's why
you have to appreciate I May and you know these
guys are you know, like welcoming the call. So hats
(02:58):
off to e May. But it is that is a
large part of the Rockets success. And right now, does
this team need to score more? Yeah, yeah, no, one
is going to deny that. But defensively, those are the
things that are changed in Houston right now, that's the
big change.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, let me ask you this because you know I've
been calling NBA games, will be my this is my
ninth year. And forgetting about the Houston coaches just as
coaches in general, it's a players league, Ryan, and you
were a part of that player's league. When a player
checked out on a coach, the coach was looking for
work somewhere else. And Emys in only his third year
as an NBA coach, he's not that far removed from
(03:34):
being a player. Second year in Houston, I have never
seen a coach and I shouldn't say never. Very few
coaches can call out a player and that player go,
you know what, You're right?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
My bad?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
How is E may allowed? Not allowed?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
But how does E may effectively get away with being
very hard on players when a lot of coaches are
in the league that they were to do that, the
players would check out.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Weber one you hit it beyond Rafel Tillman and family
have putting their stamp on email and said he's our guy.
We trust in you. You know you have you know
a full piece of whatever you need to do to
get this done. And Hey, man, he's had the green
(04:20):
light to bench out peak.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
We'll speak on it to bench Jalen. Okay. And when
you do that, of course.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
The agent's probably frustrated. And I'm not speaking from any
personal experience. I'm speaking from my experiences. Agents probably frustrated,
players frustrated because you're kind of fighting against man. I've
been able to kind of do my thing. This has
been a different style of plan. I'm speaking from my experience,
not from anything I know in the locker room, anything
I'm throwing out.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
But now when you go and then you you.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Kind of bin in, saidy s Well, Man, if I
don't play defense, I'm not gonna play. If I don't
do this, I'm not gonna play. If I don't rebound,
I'm not gonna play. You're gonna see guys by end
and they have so Matt, You're you're hitting it right
on the head.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
But there is that you know that we've seen it,
that there's.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
That ugly, that ugly baby stage with with the patches
in the hair and the blipishes all over and the
big teeth.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
You know what I'm saying. You go, oh, that's an
ugly baby. Then you see, oh, man, that's a beautiful baby.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Look at that, and we're getting out of that ugly
baby stage.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
All due respect, don't take my words out of context,
but that's that's really what we're seeing.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
All right, Well, that's that seems fair.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
But I again, there are timeouts that he'll call that
he will go run to the middle of the court
and make sure he finds the identifies whether it's a men,
whether it's alpi, whether it's jailing. I mean there nobody
is can can avoid the staredown of Amadka after a
defensive lapse.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Oh yeah, no, no, no. And here's the thing about em too.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
When things are rolling right, like if we've seen our
guys get into scuffles, get into it like emate's right
in the middle of it. Like like we've seen Dylan
gets a tech, he may get a tech right behind him,
like you know.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And and even two, this is the thing. You may
not like him, you gotta respect it. Watch e may
man all probably six eight to try to whatever of them.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
When one of our guys comes to the sideline or
something happens, he put says, what you put his arm
around those guys. And as a as a player, you
gotta respect that when you make a mistake and you
do something, well.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
He ain't.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
He's telling you like you didn't work on defense, or like, hey,
you're not making a shot, like he's I need you
to do X, Y and Z. He's telling you those things,
so you have to respect what he's saying. And then
you're you're not in the dark. You don't got to
hear from the front office or or from your agent somebody, Yeah, oh,
he not playing because it is no, you ain't playing
(06:35):
because you ain't doing this, this, and this, and you're
hearing that straight from me. May because so many times
I'm not gonna call out any coaches, coaches say you
gotta find out somewhere else why you're not playing, what's
going on or you know, oh, you know, there's just
no With all due respect, I'll just say, like, there's
no funny business, Matt and and that's why Houston's having
the success success that they're happening.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, I'm I'm such respectful.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
The way he runs his basketball team, it's it's refreshing
and the results are you know, winning sixty seven percent
of the game so far, it's been spectacular.
Ryan Hollins from our friends at Space City and the
Rockets TV Network with us here on the program, and
we've got a phone call. Wants talk about a little
Rockets if you want to get into anything. And Ryan's
well versed in just about every sport because he is
a sports fan through and through, and of course you
hear him on the weekends here on Fox Sports Radio
during the offseason seven one three two one two five,
seven ninety seven to one three two one two five
(00:20):
Sevenini Jackson Montrose, jack thanks for waiting.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good morning. You're on seven ninety.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Good morning guys. I was just giving you a quick
call to really find out. It seems like Jalen Green
has been way more engaged in the defensive end of
the book the court as of lately. I know he
had all the points last night, but I just want
to hear from Ryan on maybe why that is.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
May you spot on Jalen wants to win.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
You know, he's kind of shown that he can score
forty points in the NBA. Uh, you know, he can
play with the league's best. But this is a group
that hadn't won. And for Jalen, he's trying to find
his way. And I think the most important thing to
me that I've seen from him mentality wise is not
(01:06):
just that he's trying hard and his best defensively, and
he's being much more physical than we've seen him be
in the past. But when somebody else is rolling or
somebody's having a good game, go watch Jalen Green.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Man.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
He's celebrating his guys, he's cheering. I feel like he's
truly giving himself to this team and the team's gonna
need his scoring. But yes, defensively, he's saying, man, I
don't want to be that guy that doesn't fit in.
And for a while, you know, you'd see like a
guy like jay shon Tate Madden correct me if I'm wrong.
Jay Shontate would be diving on the floor, hustling, doing
all these things. And it's like, well, jay Shawn is
(01:40):
playing super hard. He's the only guy out there doing that,
And now you got a whole group of Rockets that
are playing hard.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
So you're that odd man out. You don't want to
be that.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
So Jayden Green don't want to see Tarry Easton and
the men and Dylan and all these guys and Fred
working hard defensively, and then him not doing the same.
So that's why you're you know, a part large part
of reason. And he may do udulka obviously why you're
seeing Jayleen Green work his tail off defensively. Now, man,
that the effort has really been there. So heads off
to you for applauding that and seeing those efforts.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
No, when he was in the game against I think
it was Golden State and it was Chari and Amen
and Jabbari and Dylan and they left Jalen in the
game and the Rockets went on a little bit of
a run like everyone.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Was seeing it.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
So it's just interesting to see that has given him
a little bit of leeway on the defensive side.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Well, here's the thing is e May can forgive a misshot,
he can forgive maybe even a turnover. He ain't gonna
forgive is defensive assignment miss you know, And that's why
you have to appreciate I May and you know these
guys are you know, like welcoming the call. So hats
(02:58):
off to e May. But it is that is a
large part of the Rockets success. And right now, does
this team need to score more? Yeah, yeah, no, one
is going to deny that. But defensively, those are the
things that are changed in Houston right now, that's the
big change.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, let me ask you this because you know I've
been calling NBA games, will be my this is my
ninth year. And forgetting about the Houston coaches just as
coaches in general, it's a players league, Ryan, and you
were a part of that player's league. When a player
checked out on a coach, the coach was looking for
work somewhere else. And Emys in only his third year
as an NBA coach, he's not that far removed from
(03:34):
being a player. Second year in Houston, I have never
seen a coach and I shouldn't say never. Very few
coaches can call out a player and that player go,
you know what, You're right?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
My bad?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
How is E may allowed? Not allowed?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
But how does E may effectively get away with being
very hard on players when a lot of coaches are
in the league that they were to do that, the
players would check out.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Weber one you hit it beyond Rafel Tillman and family
have putting their stamp on email and said he's our guy.
We trust in you. You know you have you know
a full piece of whatever you need to do to
get this done. And Hey, man, he's had the green
(04:20):
light to bench out peak.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
We'll speak on it to bench Jalen. Okay. And when
you do that, of course.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
The agent's probably frustrated. And I'm not speaking from any
personal experience. I'm speaking from my experiences. Agents probably frustrated,
players frustrated because you're kind of fighting against man. I've
been able to kind of do my thing. This has
been a different style of plan. I'm speaking from my experience,
not from anything I know in the locker room, anything
I'm throwing out.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
But now when you go and then you you.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Kind of bin in, saidy s Well, Man, if I
don't play defense, I'm not gonna play. If I don't
do this, I'm not gonna play. If I don't rebound,
I'm not gonna play. You're gonna see guys by end
and they have so Matt, You're you're hitting it right
on the head.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
But there is that you know that we've seen it,
that there's.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
That ugly, that ugly baby stage with with the patches
in the hair and the blipishes all over and the
big teeth.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
You know what I'm saying. You go, oh, that's an
ugly baby. Then you see, oh, man, that's a beautiful baby.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Look at that, and we're getting out of that ugly
baby stage.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
All due respect, don't take my words out of context,
but that's that's really what we're seeing.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
All right, Well, that's that seems fair.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
But I again, there are timeouts that he'll call that
he will go run to the middle of the court
and make sure he finds the identifies whether it's a men,
whether it's alpi, whether it's jailing. I mean there nobody
is can can avoid the staredown of Amadka after a
defensive lapse.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Oh yeah, no, no, no. And here's the thing about em too.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
When things are rolling right, like if we've seen our
guys get into scuffles, get into it like emate's right
in the middle of it. Like like we've seen Dylan
gets a tech, he may get a tech right behind him,
like you know.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And and even two, this is the thing. You may
not like him, you gotta respect it. Watch e may
man all probably six eight to try to whatever of them.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
When one of our guys comes to the sideline or
something happens, he put says, what you put his arm
around those guys. And as a as a player, you
gotta respect that when you make a mistake and you
do something, well.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
He ain't.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
He's telling you like you didn't work on defense, or like, hey,
you're not making a shot, like he's I need you
to do X, Y and Z. He's telling you those things,
so you have to respect what he's saying. And then
you're you're not in the dark. You don't got to
hear from the front office or or from your agent somebody, Yeah, oh,
he not playing because it is no, you ain't playing
(06:35):
because you ain't doing this, this, and this, and you're
hearing that straight from me. May because so many times
I'm not gonna call out any coaches, coaches say you
gotta find out somewhere else why you're not playing, what's
going on or you know, oh, you know, there's just
no With all due respect, I'll just say, like, there's
no funny business, Matt and and that's why Houston's having
the success success that they're happening.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, I'm I'm such respectful.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
The way he runs his basketball team, it's it's refreshing
and the results are you know, winning sixty seven percent
of the game so far, it's been spectacular.
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