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December 5, 2025 13 mins
SportsRadio 810 WHB’s Soren Petro Talks Texans vs Chiefs Match Up
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eleven oh one on seven ninety men and Ross with
you here on Anything goes Froddy will be saying, are sorry.
He's coming up in a half an hour from right now.
Right now, we say hello to Soren Petro, he hosts.
I mean, look, there are some original names for sports
radio shows, Soren Petro, but yours is just the program.
That's all you call your show, the program.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's right, the program you know, you know what you
ask for itself.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
You know why it is because you're a legacy host
in Kansas City. When you had that kind of cachet,
you can call yourself the program.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I love it. I was just called old and the
nicest way possible. Thank you. I appreciate no chance.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Sports Radio eight ten WHB is the show that's sore
in Petro and I think Ross and I have both
been on over for their number times over the last
couple of years.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
I've been replaced. That's okay though, No, they just called
me because you were unavailable.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
That's how it is. Sorry, and have your producer called Ross.
He's feeling no good, He's he's feeling neglected over here.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, you know what I think it is like like
when we change producers and then like whatever the last
number that was called is long as somebody keeps saying, yes,
he just keeps calling that person right, so I think
you know, you know, that's where he's gotten out of
the rhythm of Colin Ross.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
So basically I should just avoid your producer sending me
tax and to say a new phone who this is
what you're trying to tell the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Okay, yes, that were great.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Forgetting about this game. Let's get to the more macro
version of Kansas City Chiefs football this year at six
and six? What has gone right? What has gone wrong?
And have your fan base and not necessarily the locker
room they would publicly ever tell you this, But is
this the eventual downplay, downfall regression of the most dominant

(01:41):
team in the AFC the last five or six years?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I would say potentially yes. You know, they they have
always talked, in fact, their owner, Clock kind has always
talked about, you know, never wanting to go all in
on one year because they've got Patrick Mahomes and they
want to make sure that they're a contender every single season.
That's what he said. But in reality that the chance
to win three in a row had them making some
decisions that maybe they shouldn't have made, right, like giving

(02:05):
Chris Jones a contract into his thirties. He's not a
bad player. He's still very good. He's still the first
guy you got to account for on defense, but he's
not what he was a couple of years ago. And
he's a massive number on the cap, going to be
forty eight million against the cap next year. They didn't
want to, you know, look around anywhere, so they re
signed Creed Humphrey, gave a center the biggest contract in football.
Then they added on with Trey Smith getting the biggest

(02:26):
guard contract in football. Those aren't premium positions. Nick boltmember
the linebacker. They gave fifteen million dollars too, So you know,
they had all these players that have been a part
of the run. They wanted to keep the band back together.
And because they've been trading up a lot in the draft.
You know, the draft is in an exact science. Everybody
has misses on. Every fan base thinks every pick should
be a gem, but you know it's a fifty to fifty,

(02:48):
sixty to forty proposition and then when you give away
those picks, be it for you know, veteran players or
to move up in rounds, you get and fewer young
talented Chief players, and the Chiefs have a very top
heavy ross right now with some of the guys getting old,
and that's that's created a problem for them this year.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Offensive line, you described my visit on your show Tell
the Audience. It feels like, as you were rattling it
off with me, it has been a hot mess, not
only just coming into this week's game, but it's been
all season.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Correct, Yeah, it has. And I mentioned, you know, the
expensive interior guys. Juwan Taylor carries a huge number at
right tackle as well. They're the second most expensive offensive
line in football, and they have not played to that degree. Now,
when Josh Simmons was healthy and was playing, they look
like they found a gem if he's going to play.
He left the team for unspecified reasons for like five games,

(03:37):
so that'll be an issue until it's not. But now
he's got an injured wrist and he's out. Well, they
doubled down at left tackle because it was so bad,
ultimately moving All Pro guard Joe Tooney out to left
tackle in the Super Bowl, which you know, the Eagles
exposed and blew them up in that game, and that's
why they spent so much in the in the offseason
on getting a guy like Jalen Moore. You know, two
years thirty million for a guy who started eleven games

(03:59):
in San Francisco, but they wanted to make sure that
they had options at left tackle. Well, now Jawan Taylor's
banged up and Jalen Moore may have to go at
right tackle, which brings him right back to the guy
Jania Morris, who was so bad last year. They ended
up moving They're all pro guard from left guard to
left tackle, and then just a desperation move, so Wania
Morris a left tackle. We're everyone in Kansas City is

(04:20):
hoping that's the Chiefs just sending a smoke screen out there,
and that Jowan Taylor's going to be able to go
at right tackle and Jalen Moore will be solid okay
at left tackle. That gives him a pretty good chance
to attack. But Tray Smith, the guy that gave all
the money to it right guard, he's been hurt pretty
much all year, hasn't been as good as he was
last year. And if they have Wanya Morris at left tackle,

(04:41):
I mean go ahead and get the paint out because
you can put a couple of stripes right from the
left tackle spot straight to Patrick Mahomes because Wanya Morris
I don't think could block me. I don't know why
he's on the roster. We didn't make a big deal
out of it, Saint Joe at training camp when they
kept him, because you thought you had redundancy. You had
two different guys Josh Simmons and Moore that would have
to go down before you got back to Wanya Morrise. Well,

(05:04):
now here it is against the worst possible team. You
may send out the worst left tackle in football.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
And that brings me to the running game, which just
seems like it's been nonexistent. What do you make of
what's been happening with Isaiah Pacheco and then we know
Kareem Hunts kind of to me, just a guy. How
much of that as the offensive liner? How much is
that they need to improve at that position?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
A little bit of everything? You know. I think the
line is a part of it. You know, Juwan Taylor
is a pass blocker, not a run blocker. You know.
So they've got some guys like they want to throw
the ball. They also look Andy Reid is a is
a passing coach at a heart and listen. All the
analytics will tell you you should throw the ball. It's
more efficient. But the running does help set up the passing.

(05:46):
And that's pretty much what the running game's been, is
the setup to the passing game. But now more and
more teams are not doing what they used to. Andy
Reid had a lot of success in this league because
teams would talk about like, yeah, yeah, we you know,
we're going to establish the run, we're going to pass,
and defenses would set up to stop the run, and
then Andy ree would just keep throwing over it. Well,
now defense is set up to stop the pass. They

(06:09):
play nickel. The Chiefs face the most light boxes to
get teams out of that, to get the safeties moving up,
to get some freedom in that passing game, you have
to run the ball. They just haven't been able to
do it. Their running numbers aren't that bad, but you
when you dig deeper, you're right to talk about the
running backs because it's Patrick Mahomes running on scrambles and
smart teams and I think the Texans will be one
of them have started to put a spy on him.

(06:30):
He's not Lamar Jackson like he's gonna beat you, but
he consistently runs for first downs, backbreaking first downs. That
allows Andy Reid to get deeper into the play sheet
and be effective that way. Well, you know, teams are saying, ah,
that's not gonna happen. We're gonna spy Patrick Mahmes. You're
gonna have to beat us with the pass. And they
haven't been willing to pound the running game enough, and

(06:51):
they don't have the percel. They don't even have a
fullback on the roster to really play a heavy personnel.
All their tight ends are pass catchers first, so they
don't really have the personnel to play the style of
football that teams like the Rams are doing. And then
they just don't seem to want to get under center
and give the running back a moving start at being effective.
So many of their runs are RPOs our draws, with

(07:12):
the running back standing still when he first gets the
football as opposed to getting ahead of steam and headed
towards a hole. So, you know, maybe they'll turn over
a new league, maybe they'll do something completely different here
against the Texans, but I think they'll show the run
and Kareem Hunt has been You're right, he's a jag,
but he's at least a pilemover. He's great in short
yardage and he does, you know, put some thump and
can wear down a defense because he is a physical back.

(07:34):
But there is no threat of anybody in the run
game unless it's some kind of wide receiver reverse of
getting any kind of ten to fifteen yard run. It's
just non existent with this team.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Sarn Petro, Kansas City's sports Radio eight ten WHB with
us here on Sports Talk seven to ninety. You mentioned
Andy Reid and there's been a lot of talk here
in Houston about one score games, games management of Demico Ryans,
and a lot of one score talking Kansas City as well.
How how do you think Andy Reid is as a
game manager with challenges and tied in timeouts and those

(08:07):
types of things.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
You know, he's been fantastic. That was one of the
big knocks on him when he came to Kansas City,
and it persisted in Kansas City because he had Alex Smith.
I mean, I will tell anyone who knocks a coach
on their clock management and they're running out there guys
that are good or bad at quarterback, that's the problem.
You want good clock management get a great quarterback. Suddenly
Andy Reid's a genius with Patrick Mahomes taking twenty yard chunks.

(08:30):
You know, when Alex Smith would would have a minute,
ten and one time out and he'd checked down to
a wide receiver in the middle of the field and
he'd get tackled. You look up and you had fifteen
seconds and you'd gone twenty five yards and burned your
time out. Because Alex Smith just wouldn't push the ball
down the field. Andy Reid has looked like a genius
with Patrick Mahomes in that spot because Patrick Mahomes will
take those chunks. He understands that we got to go.

(08:52):
We got to get the ball down the field. So
thirteen seconds against the Buffalo Bills in a playoff game,
that's plenty of time to get down the field and
get a field goal. So you know he has the
ultimate weapon there. If they provide time for Patrick Mahomes,
I think in the hurry up where defenses can't change
their personnel and they start to wear down, Patrick Mahomes
becomes even more effective. They do have talent at wide receiver.

(09:13):
They don't have a Nico Collins. Rossie Rice is pretty
close it's pretty good. Travis Kelsey still finds holes in defenses.
Xavier Worthy's fast, but literally a breeze will knock him
off his route because he's so slightly built. You know.
Juju Smith Schuster is actually pretty effective still for them
when they need it. And the Hollywood Brown is kind

(09:33):
of Hollywood Brown. He's there every now and then he
makes a play and a few people in town get excited,
but he's not consistently a threat. But there are guys
that can beat you, and so you know, he does
a pretty good job of managing the clock. Last year
they won all those close games, some of them with
block field goals and miraculous endings, but other ones just
making plays. They are still dangerous even though they're one

(09:53):
in six in one score games, but they just have
not been able to find the rhythm and they have
not been able to get the big plays when they
need them. And really, penalties have crushed them all year
long at the worst times. They're a heavily penalized team.
They talk about it every week. Nothing gets better, and
that's been crippling them this year. So it hasn't been
what they've normally been, where if you get the fifty

(10:16):
seconds and give the Chiefs the ball. You're going to lose.
That hadn't been the case this.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Year, all right, soar and so obviously confidence here in
Houston is very high. This is the great defense against
a as mid of a Kansasity franchise we've seen in
a long period of time. So let's flip at the
script a little bit. Texans don't go to Kansas City
and win very often playoff games, regular season games, night games,
day games. If the Chiefs pull this off, it keeps

(10:40):
the Chiefs season alive in terms of being a robust
playoff contender. How do they do it? If there is
a scenario where Kansasity pulls off the victory and again
Vegas believes that they're still a three and a half
point favorite for a reason, explain that to the Houston audience.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
I think the reason is just the stubbornness of the betters. Right,
Like the point spread is not prediction. It's based upon
trying to bring money in. Right. Sometimes it's waited a
little bit, based upon a sharp player putting something. But
for the most part, they're, you know, trying to bounce
it out. And I think the public, but the Chiefs
were still the favorite to win the Super Bowl like
two weeks ago, right, I mean, you know, it's just that,
like fans were continuing to put money down because they've

(11:17):
just seen it time and time again. Most fans don't
want to see it. But Patrick Mahomes is going to
get it done. They're going to turn the corner two
years ago is carrying a lot of weight in this town.
Everybody wants to point to or remember how awful they
looked against the Raiders on that Christmas Day game, and
from that point on they really took off. And so
everybody in this town, a lot of people are expecting
that that corner to be turned. And I think that's

(11:37):
what Vegas is expecting. I think a lot of football
fans on the outside are expecting that because they've always
done it. But what changed in that season was they
quit playing Kadarius Tony, they quit playing Sky Moore, they
quit playing the guys who suck. They're already playing the
good players. Right, There's no one to bench now in
this situation, right, there's no one to turn to. They
started focusing on getting the football to Rashie Rice and

(11:59):
Travis Kelcey two years ago. Well, they're already doing that,
and so I don't see this magic bullet that they
seem to have two years ago. Which really got that
offense going was when they eliminated all the stuff they
were trying to do for guys that simply were not
good football players. So that makes it harder if they
get it done in this game, there's going to be
a lot of misdirection. They're going to try to get
those edg rushers go in the wrong direction. They're not

(12:20):
going to be afraid to punt. I mean, I think
they are aware. They can look in the mirror and
know who they are. They are a good defense. They
can't pressure the quarterback with just four In fact, they
haven't had a sack in two weeks for the first
time in four years. So CJ. Stroud's going to have
more time than he normally does. Even though the Texans
offensive line is a problem, the Chiefs will have some
success because Chris Jones is still a player, but George
Carloftis has got a hurt hand that's affecting his passion

(12:43):
pass rush somewhat. So I think they'll be happy to
tear this into a rock fight. Turn it into a
rock fight. And play in the mud and try to
find one or two big plays. I think that's what
they'll be looking for. If the Chiefs get there, you know,
they'll stay on the field with the Texans, but they're
going to need to find a couple of big plays
somewhere where they get that Texans defense go in the
wrong direction and have a gotcha moment because they're not

(13:05):
going to just grind it out down the fields.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Are on great conversations always. Thank you very much for
the time and stay warm of this holiday season, and
we appreciate you visiting our show this morning. Thanks again
for the time.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, thanks so much for having me. Matt. We'll lose
your number. Ross. Get ready to get

Speaker 1 (13:19):
A call A lot
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