SWING OFF RECAP, How Did We Like The Challenge System? Lip Service @ SEC Media Days, NBA Twitter Is Off The Rails

SWING OFF RECAP, How Did We Like The Challenge System ? Lip Service @ SEC Media Days, NBA Twitter Is Off The Rails

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lunchtimers Matt Thomas, Thomas, Ross viel This is the Matt
Thomas Show with Ross.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Ten oh one in h Town.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Good morning, and welcome to a Wednesday edition of The
Matt Thomas Show with Ross. This is Sports Talk seven ninety.
We saw the sultans of swing and Rossville areal. Make
sure you do not call it the home run derby.

(00:37):
It's the swing off.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I thought that's what you did with your pineapple.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Now that's the people that live in uh Well.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
You may said it. You for me said it five
hundred times on night.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I know, but we'll do a five hundred second time
in my ryme with Vienna ran Ration. Good morning to you.
It is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. I'm Matt,
He's Ross. We've got actually a fair amount of things
to get to today. It is the slowest week of

(01:17):
the year, and I think Ross, I don't need to
toot our own horn, but I think we've been able
to handle the last couple days pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
We're doing great, Matt, fantastic, better than ever.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
And I feel like there's a few things today from
the All Star Game. Now, I didn't tell anybody not
to watch the All Star Game. I would never endorse
that you do what you want to do. There was
nothing else on television, and my wife and my daughter
were on shopping, So again, what am I going to do.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
I'm not going to go shop and watch the All
Star Game.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Mm hm.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
And I thought largely.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I mean, if I was to give it a grade
the entire presentation, i'd give it a bet plus.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Would that be fair? I thought it was good. Yeah,
I liked it. Of course, your favorite Matt Ludacris coming
out in the beginning with you Welcome to Atlanta. They
got Jermaine dupri out of Mothballs, which I appreciated. That
was cool. Good to see he's still knocking around. You know.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
It's funny because I was at a restaurant when that
was being performed and it was unclose caption, so I
had no idea if it sounded good sounded bad, and
Franklin didn't matter because I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Know any their songs anyway, But that's a different issue
for a different time.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
What I loved about it will get to what I
didn't like about it. And more importantly, your friend me
gave you the gut filling this thing was going to go.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Extra and it did yesterday. Yes, Matt, you know what,
that's a long shot hit, so good job. Also this
to show you how little people really care about the
All Star Game.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
And I'm going to be flat out to you. I
had no idea there was a swing off.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I forgot until it was happening. I was like, what
are they gonna do? And then they mentioned it. I
was like, oh, yeah, I remember them talking about it. Well.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
It's funny because a lot of the National Baseball writers
who are there were tweeting out last night as it
was about to happen.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
If this game goes extras, nobody, I mean the the like.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
The passings and the other nightingales and whene they were
all there or like, yeah, we have to tell you
it's a swing off.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
M So let me tell you about the swing off.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Tell me about the swing off, Matt. Let me just
say about everything. Last night was an exhibition. There was
nothing about last night's game that I want to see
implemented in a regular game except the ABS challenge system,
which by the way, worked beautifully last night.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yes, it was great. There was a couple that were
like millimeters close.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
The best part was the pitchers could turn around and
look at the jumbo tron out of Truest Parking and
right field and look at it. I mean there's no guessing,
there's no Hey, what are the umpires thinking? What's going
on on the headsets? They're not underneath the hood of
a reply monitor. They just turned around a look, Oh, okay,
that's good. If that's how it's going to work, even

(03:51):
the die hard, die hard of baseball players that do
not want.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
To see it would have to say, hey, it worked
out last night. Yeah, I thought it was perfect, and
I think you had the gut feeling and I agree
it's going to it's coming next year.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Now, let me ask you this.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
The biggest thing about this is it's going to be
a challenge for every team whenever it does come into playing.
Is who's going to have the stone, should use it?
And at what point of the game do you do it? Now,
remember you get two and as long.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
As you keep getting them.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Right, you get to keep those two.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
But if you have a reputation like for instance, and
I'm going to use a baseball crossover basketball crossover, Alprin
Shangun wants every foul called against him to be challenged.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
And he's wrong about eighty five percent of the time.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I would say I would want Alprin Shannghun nowhere near
a batter's box or a pitching mount or behind the
dish catching, because you would think everything was a strike
or a ball, and I would lose my challenges within
the first five minutes of the game.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, he's not going to be here next year. But
Fromer would be a bad one. I think even Joe
spot I mentioned it, like, Oh, we're gonna we gotta
tell Frobber to go cool it on that. He was
mentioning that in spring training, like you gotta have a
talk with Fromber about not channel using all the challenges.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
That's exactly right. So the issue is gonna be and
this is not. It almost gives the umpires a little
bit of leeway if they goof up early in the game,
because there's gonna be some managers that I mean, like,
I don't want to burn it if I need it
in the seventh, eighth, and ninth thing of a ball game.
So I don't know how you get around that except
they don't want Here's what baseball doesn't want. They don't

(05:33):
want it every single pitch. Now you do and I
and I could, I could be convinced of that. Again,
I'm gonna take small steps on this, but they don't
want every single pitch being reviewed.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
With a slight delay.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
And again it's it's not a huge line. Matter of fact,
it's slight is not even a word. I mean it
would be. It's it's minimal five.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I mean, as soon as the pitch hits the catchers,
they know if it's a baller strike.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, yeah, but you have to go back and look
and put it on the jump boll tron. That those
are all logistical things. I just think that if you're
going to if this is going to be implemented, which
I believe it will be in twenty twenty six, just
a gut feeling on that that you're gonna have some
managers that are saying, don't even.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Bother until it's a crucial part of the game.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Bases loaded at strike three to end in any with
the water and scoring position. I mean, it would just
take people and teams getting used to it. You're not
gonna do it nobody out fourth inning up five to two.
You're not gonna sit there and go, oh, I got
screwed on that. You know what, Unfortunately, you're still gonna
have human air.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
You're still gonna have human air because they literally will
install the technology to get every single call right and
not use it.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
You're gonna appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
I appreciate I've been on the Warpath for many years
at least how I'm winning the small battle, getting the
getting the challenge. That is exactly right.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
All right, So we're gonna talk about what we did.
That was one of the only I'll tell you the
one thing I didn't like, and we'll get to that
in the next segment. But I don't want to get
into the swing off the Hank Aaron tribute the players
being miked up, and I mean it felt like if
you if you weren't miked up ross last night, you
weren't very good, right, I mean you were like the
mid level All Star.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Is that bad? Do you feel do you feel like
you're not part of the team if you didn't get
miked up? Like who is that guy from the Marlins?
Like at the end of the game, he's like, I'm
in the swing Off?

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Well, yeah, it's the thing is is that if you
didn't get miked up, that means they didn't think you
had a good personality, Kyle or Stillers, or you were
going to be anything a huge part of the game.
So uh again, that to me was exhibition. That to
me added flavor to the game. I know there were
some people that were saying that maybe it was too much.

(07:35):
It's the All Star Game, sorry Stours, but yeah, go ahead, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Mean you can bring up more my Miami Martlin players.
I have no problem with that. To me, it was
just a last night.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
To me was a sit back. I'm a baseball fan.
I'm just gonna watch. I'm not gonna break down the
pitch selection or what the what the ops plus is,
or what the exit velocity is.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Just watch the best players the game in their own uniform.
By the way, thank you for that Major League Baseball.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
And I was also talking about this yesterday or just
as far as the swing off part of it. Yeah,
like they they let the you let it breathe a
little bit more with just going by swings or outs.
When they do the time thing, it's just too much,
it's too fast. I think the derby should go back
to the out system or or a certain amount of swings.
And you can only say you can only take like

(08:26):
three or four pitches or whatever out of twenty swings
or something like that.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, so again it's I would never want that any
part of a regular.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Shooting game, No way, no how, no chance. I do.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Like the runner at second base, the Manford Man rule,
whatever they're calling it. I like that. I don't want
a swing off. I don't want a home run derby,
and I don't gain you're a soccer fan, how do
you feel? And man brought this up to you a
couple of times? What are your what's your general thoughts
about the shootout? Because you do play an extra how
many minutes you play right after you.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Play the regulation depending on the I mean some of
the like the summer cups go straight to pks, but
most of the time they play an extra thirty minutes.
So you're talking about ninety minutes running around and then
a two hours of sprinting around. They're like, all right,
everybody's about to die. Let's do something. Let's just have
a gig. Let's just do it a penalty gigs. Yeah,
that to me makes it. I mean, you can kind
of justify that because you did give it a legitimate

(09:22):
way to end the game.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
The way the game was played during Yeah, it would
be like if they did this at like the twelfth inning,
because it's ninety minutes than thirty minutes, right, So that
would be three more innings, three more innings and then
a swing off.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
It would be like that.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, I don't think we're gonna have it. I mean,
how many games have we had that have gone say
past twelve or thirteen since the Manford Man rule has
been put in a place.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's been very rare. Yeah, very rare. Also Okay, on
the show today, Brian bogasvic Center join us at eleven o'clock.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Looking forward to talking with him.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
We have a shit show bump ass up at eleven
thirty today, we believe it or Not today at one
p fifty, and we have a couple of things Ross
I want to get to. The rhetoric coming out of
the SEC media.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Days is so rich. There's been one theme.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
That I've heard from every coach and every player that
I've seen in ESPN. I know, Dan and Sean today
had grenk Sankey on the Commissioner of the Conference and
you know, yeah, it's good get and they had a
really old.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Guy on earlier. But that's fine. Nothing a big deal
on that.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
But Sankee came on and he was very very polished.
I mean, commissioners are polished, right, I would say.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Salesman, you have to be.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
You have to appease your people that you work for,
which in his case are the sixteen different presidents and
the sixteen different athletic directors in the conference, just like
the commissioners in all the sports. Professional sports are polished.
But there's just been a storyline. I'm just gonna get
kind of getting tired of saying. With college athletics, the
NIL top ten is out in terms of money being spent.

(10:55):
There's a reason why the University of Texas doing quite well.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Sports Harvey landed the two top recruits, the top defensive
lineman and the top linebacker out of Georgia yesterday. Kirby
Smart can't be particularly happy about that. That's a sham.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
But you'll be not surprised at who is among the
all time money spenders this offseason when it comes to NL. Okay,
we've talked about this school a little bit. Uh, we
have Twitter acting stupid on NBA Twitter, I'm involving around
Lebron James. I do want to get to that and uh,
just some general thoughts if you happen to see the
All Star Game and what look forwards to be. Hopefully

(11:32):
it will be a very exciting second half of the season.
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we people find you on install?

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Wow? Well you is Whyston is a polite Wednesday. I
appreciate that, Matt Well.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
At about you know when you uh when the when
the when you're spending a lone time in the hotel
and you're watching the All Star Game, you reflect on things.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Okay, I appreciate that, Matt. Yes, you can follow me
at sports RV on Instagram. I'm trying to build it
up after years of neglect, let's just say company initiatives.
It would really help me out if you would follow
me at sports RV on Instagram. Thank you, Matt. An
think for you Ross. I think I'm gonna try to
be as nice to you as I can for four
possible hours today. Oh wow, I thought you were gonna

(12:30):
say for the foreseeable future. But just now, I'll take
four hours, baby steps. That's good.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Well, it's like you know they say in a lot
of addictions, one day at a time, you have to
that's true.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Tomorrow I will do make it two straight days. One
can only hope, all right. Seven one three two one
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(13:03):
one more take twenty one Matten Ross with you here
on a Wednesday. We've got Brian Bogusvia coming up at
eleven o'clock eleven thirty. Well talk to you and ask
you to tell some people to shut their bomb ashes up?
And ain't nobody got time for that? Well the news
at noon and of course he believe it or not.
To wrap up the show today at one fifty. We've
got a lot of time with you, so come on in.

(13:24):
We thank you for listening, Thank you for being a
part of the radio program. I did talk about Ross's ig.
You did give a review of Superman. You gave it
a what a seven and a half? Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Seven and a half out of ten? Yes, that is
on my Instagram story. Thanks to those of you who
followed me, which is me, I saw it. Thank you,
You're welcome. What I am nine away from from one thousand,
nine away from one thousand. If you can follow at
sports RV on Instagram, I appreciate it. Sorry.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
And then when if you got a second, no worries,
if you can follow sports MPT two that'd be cool.
Gay What did not allow it to reach to an
eight or high?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Huh? I thought there were some. I mean, look, it's
a Superman movie, it's a it's a summer Blockbusters. Definitely,
there's gonna be some of the cheesy humor. I thought
at points it was a little bit thick. I also
and people are probably gonna fight this on me. The
guy Nicholas Holt who was Lex Luthor, I thought he

(14:25):
was good, but it just I found it difficult to
buy into his performance. One. I think he was he
was like eight out of ten. He wasn't a perfect cast,
but I thought the guy that did Superman was great.
Lois Lane was perfect as well. The parents were really good.
Most of the rest of the casting I really liked.
But it was that and then, like I said, a

(14:46):
couple cheesy moments. I'm trying to remember, just some other
I mean, you have to have a suspension of disbelief
in a in a action movie with a superhero anyways,
but some of the stuff you're like, why is this
happening or how would this happen? It doesn't make any sense,
just like plot, holy stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Okay, I honestly have not seen any Superman movies since
the original trio in the eighties. Yes, I'm I'm just
not much of a Batman Superman kind of movie watcher.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
But that's, you know, teach his own. I mean, it's
doing very very well, right, Yeah, it's doing well. And
it was and you could tell from the beginning they
kind of set the tone, like the color palates. It's
not like, you know, they went into this era of
superhero movies like yeah, ten fifteen years ago, where it's dark.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
It's dark.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Superman in the world is the worst. This is a
lot more light, airy fun. The color palettes are lighter.
I mean he's wearing his red underwear like that's kind of,
you know, kitchy and campy, and it's in its own self.
So yeah, it was a lighter tone, and I thought
overall was very well done.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Okay, well seven and a half out of ten, seven
and a half out of ten, Yeah, very good.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
All right.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
So what I didn't like about the All Star game
they needed to get to the game a little faster
all this It's just I was waiting for first pick intros. Yeah,
that's a very minor thing. Is that's gonna happen with
ever any event? I mean the all the All Stars.
I hate the fact ross that the players, once they're
done playing, shower and get out of the stame as

(16:11):
fast as.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Apparently they were on planes, like out of air.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
If I would have been smart, I should have looked
at the private airfields of Atlanta's area to see can
you go leaving and where they were going?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Can you look at archives and go back on that
or no you can.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
But it would also require me figuring out if they
were flying out of Hartsfield, which is the main airport
in Atlanta, or they were going to some you know,
private executive airport kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
But like Sho Hao Tunny was unavailable. I mean he
was gone.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah with the guys for this swing off. It's like,
all right, who's left? Who's still here?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Are there any pirates available? You know? Joe, get back
in there, Joe.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
I mean, I respect he's put in the uniform on,
but oh no, that's all gonna say. Remember let me
be next today.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
What are your thoughts on won Clayton Kershaw talking during
in the middle of pitching. I thought that was great,
love it, But also what are your thoughts on him
being in the game at all as a legacy All
Star selection?

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Well, to me, this is such an exhibition event that
doesn't carry any weight, which is what I've always was
happy about.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
I'm okay with that too. It's weak sauce. Sorry, it's
a participation ribbon. Yeah, Clayton Kershaw shouldn't be in there.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
But if it wasn't, cal rip Knna a blue participation
ribbon guy at one time.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Was it fan vote though, or did they just let
him in afterwards?

Speaker 4 (17:43):
I think they've done this before.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, they did it within the last couple of years.
I'm sure was it? Oh man, I can't remember. It
was a picture right in the last couple of years.
Oh no, it was a pool. It was pools, right,
was it pools? Yeah? Maybe that sounds good. I'm trying
to I can't find it on Google.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yah, I am.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
I just my thought is is this this game means
so nothing to anything except enjoying it for a few
hours that if you want to bring somebody in from
a year's past that is retiring or close to retiring,
I don't know. Is Clint Kersher retiring this year?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
I guess so, I don't think.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
I mean, guys would have we would have known if
he was retiring. Yeah, I mean Verlin is trying to pitch.
He's fifty, Kershaw is thirty seven. I mean it's justin
Verliner earned a spot on all of those. Yeah, absolutely
made the definition.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Is he like? What about me?

Speaker 3 (18:39):
I don't want a game yet, but damn I might
come on, let me go. Uh yeah, it doesn't matter
to me.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
What I was more bothered by was the fact that
you could have gone to your flight aware and see
nine different private planes leaving in the sixth inning of
a game.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Now, this is another warpath I've started on. I just
think these All Star selections are out of control because
at the end of careers, when you're weighing whether or
not a guy is a Hall of Famer, one of
the things you point to is All Star appearances or
Pro Bowls or whatever. Now, Kershaw's gonna get in no
matter what. It's not really affecting his his resume, right,

(19:15):
But I mean, having four or five All Stars doesn't
sound as good as having seven or eight, and I
think that does matter at the end of guy's careers.
I'm talking about not just the legends pick thing, but
also when guys are injury replacements and making the distinction
between actual All Star selections rather than I was the

(19:36):
tenth guy who got in because ten other pitchers didn't
want to go.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
So how would you describe esoch pretis he was a
laid ad on but he didn't even.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Go hey and yah. Then it's gonna be on his resume.
Right when they inducted, if he makes the Astros Hall
of Fame or something, they're gonna be like, oh, four
time All Star whatever. It's like, yeah, kind of but
not really. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
The reality is the kind of but not real is
probably a part of a lot of things.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
All Star appearance. I mean, think about this.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Their baseball players have hit a bunch of home runs,
but they were on teams that were was one hundred
and fifteen games a year, or you had a running
back who had fourteen one hundred yard games. But if
you know, if they were down three touchdowns and you
just hand the ball up just to I mean like
the yeah, but really not Michael Strahan single season sack
record when Brett Favre laid down for him, literally laid

(20:26):
down for him. No ways, I mean you and I
remember that. Yes, but if you were to go on
Jeopardy Sports Jeopardy, yes, this gap tooth one hundred thousand
dollars Peermid mid Host is the all time single season
Sacklet who's Michael Strahan And we'd say, well, you know
it's because Brett Farve laid down one.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, the record is the record. That's why I especially
when it's like they need a first, second, third, That's
why I like All NBA more than All Star and
then All Pro. They need something like that. The baseball
does do it now. I think I don't remember what
they haul it, but they they're they're definitely to me,
should be some kind of distinction. I don't know, just

(21:07):
this to me getting uh telling old man yelling at Cloud.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
That's okay, you're yell that's fine, okay, all right seven
one three two one two five seven ninety if you
want to join us. The only thing I didn't like
about last night was again the players taken off early.
I just you can't hang around next to ninety minutes.
It's the All Star Game. You're not in the DMV line,
you know what I mean. It's it's a pretty special event.

(21:33):
I just thought it was just they disagree, no question.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
But now that's a new thing.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
I mean, what if what what kind of message are
you sending to your fellow All Stars that's stuck around.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
For the game? Get your weight up? Son?

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Well it's a it's you know what it is. It's
it's the devil like process that is at professional athletics,
for that matter of college too. I mean, it's just
we're we're another full of divas now in sports. I
I did my two innings, I got my one ab in.
My manager told me I wasn't going in. I'm gonna
go take a shower and get on the plane, get
out of here.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Oh, I also have a conspiracy theory about this, this
all star.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Thing, and we'll discuss that showing up. Ooh, you and
I have not discussed this. Does this show great?

Speaker 6 (22:14):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (22:15):
I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
I can't even guess what your conspiracy theory is. We'll
let the audience hear it. Next ten to twenty nine
on Sports Talk seven ninety We got some folks that
want to get in on the conversation. We thank you
for that. We do believe that calls can be a
good part of the show, and sometimes they're gonna be
a bad part of the show. We'll have an example
of that coming up very shortly. Seven one three two
one two five seven ninety seven to one three two

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one two five seven ninety Matt and Ross with you,
with Brian Bogusvic joining us, coming up at about a
half an hour from now.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
All Right, Ross the conspiracy theory.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
I have no idea where you're going with this, Pokas,
I sit back and let you say what you got
to say, and then I'm going to either respectfully agree
or respectfully disagree.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
You can disrespectfully disagree to if you want.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
All Right, probably there's a probably a chance of that
as well.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Sure, you have all these players who are opting out
of this honor of the All Star and a lot
of them, especially the ones who are initially selected, declining.
Do you think there is somebody or people, for example,
like Hunter Brown pitching on Sunday and then that kind

(23:22):
of opens up a window for the at least the
possibility of from or Valdez or somebody else to make
the All Star Team. Not just to make it, but
a lot of these players have incentives in their contracts
where you get fifty one hundred thousand whatever, You get
fifteen thousand for making the All Star Team, but then

(23:43):
you get another fifty to one hundred in the contract.
Could it be guys who don't necessarily want to go
to the All Star Game also opting out in order
to get some other guys some more money from teams.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
That would require an extra layer of help, meaning.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
This maybe guys who have the same agents. That's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
That's where I'm throwing it in there, like, hey, oh
you're my guy, man, you know what I'm gonna opt out.
Hopefully they select you and then you can get you
can get your fifty k man. I'm an opt out
part of part of the reason they're opting out conspiracy theory.
It's not crazy, which upsets me because it's easier to
destroy your crazy theories. But I'm going I'm gonna heading

(24:25):
towards that as a very very small percentage. Here's what
I will give you. How about ending out. I'm gonna
use Hunter Brown as an example. M how about Hunter
Brown going to Joe Aspata and saying, Hey, I'm in
the All Star Game. It's cool, but I don't really

(24:47):
want to play. Can you please start me on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
That's probably correct, but also, I mean, he was on
schedule and he probably wanted to bounce back before the
All Star break after his bad start, even though he
didn't well.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
And here's the thing is that he would have okay
if he if he pitched on, which he did unfortunately
was not great. He has Monday off, he doesn't. My
guess there's some sort of side session on Tuesday, right,
So he could have thrown an inning in the game yesterday.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
If you wanted to theory in theory.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Your theory again doesn't it's not ridiculous, but it would
then take an extra layer of Well, how does it
help the player? Then are you gonna is that agent
going to say, I'll give you a cut, I'll give you.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
A little bone. Man, I don't know if you like
it's like helping your guys out.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Matt hmm, okay, yeah, I can't dismiss it. I want to,
but I can't.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Hm. But I don't think it's prevalent.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
I think it's maybe if you were to put a
percentage in it, maybe one case per year each team maybe,
But then you know, again.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
If you're Scott, if you're a Scott Boris client, are
you really word?

Speaker 3 (26:00):
But well, maybe that's kind clients they're all making on
three hundred million dollar contracts.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Yeah, yeah, I'm trying.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Who else.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
I'm sure there's other agents. I mean, we would know
if we heard their names, and I can't. Nothing comes
to minding me.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
I just know that Talented is like c AA. There's
there's Excel.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Like Kyle Tucker's got a group's got a bunch of
people he's got involved with. Yeah yeah, uh yeah, all right,
I will man, I can't refute that. Again, I don't
think it's prevalent, but it's certainly to say that it's
never happened, would be would be?

Speaker 2 (26:33):
I think it would be flat false. Try to help
somebody else down get a bonus, especially somebody pre arbitration
or maybe a teammate, Yeah, or a teammate. Yeah, Like
I'm saying, I'm not saying it happened with Hunter Brown,
but maybe part of him was like, Hey, if I
don't go, then then Frommer might have the option.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
And I don't know what's in his contract. Yeah, let's
go to uh Okay Now, Eric and based he called
the Tintoning Show on Sunday. Ross Remember how horrific that
call was? Will will he bounce back?

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Hello? Eric?

Speaker 7 (26:58):
Well, well, well, Fellas I listened to Monday's episode on
the iHeart Podcasts, I was driving my parents all the
way up to Cleveland.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
We went to a Reds Marlins game at the Great
American Ballpark.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Beautiful play, nice, nice.

Speaker 6 (27:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (27:14):
It was quite entertaining to watch another group's fan base
be flustered and angry as the Marlins beat the Reds
of that game twelve to two, and feel like I
was not alone, Although none of them were critical of
their manager because they have a great manager unlike us.
But what I would like to say is Ross. I
don't blame you for turning off the radio. I wouldn't

(27:35):
want to hear the truth either.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
I was right.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
No, you're an idiot. You're an idiot, Eric, you can
how many how long have you been watching baseball.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
For thirty five years?

Speaker 2 (27:45):
How many defensive replacements have you seen? Late inning defensive replacements?
Do you think? I don't know ballpark?

Speaker 6 (27:50):
I mean called Jason.

Speaker 7 (27:52):
The guy that called Jason after y'all talked about that,
he brought up the one critical point. You guys sat
there and talked about how forty percent of our roster
was triple A.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
That is correct. We have a huge number of triple
A bats.

Speaker 7 (28:04):
You cannot do a defensive substitution for one of the
very few elite major league bats you had remaining in
that lineup.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
He would he just went to bat. Then they were
gonna go to the ninth, and then they're gonna go
to the tenth, and then they came into the elevens,
and then Kenny pron.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Got a base, and then they won the game. They
won the game.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
Eric, I don't have much time left to talk. I'm
gonna have to leave.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I'm sorry, you know what I'm gonna walk out.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
I'm gonna let Eric have his time to talk about
whatever else he wanted to talk about. But you're way
wrong on that. Go ahead on your other bad point.
I'm sure.

Speaker 8 (28:33):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
Well, I appreciated Caleb's conversation, and I also follow the
Dash and Dynamo and I always hope good things for them,
and I don't want our fan base look like the
Dashes either. Also, last thing that I will say. You
can chuckle at the whole Dash Dynamo aspect of it
or whatever. But you know, I tell a lot of
my friends in San Antonio, we have more basketball championships

(28:56):
than they do, which is true. We have six and
they have five because I count the four of the
Comics one. Now, absolute final point.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
Matt, you said we need an arm I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Matt.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
What do you think about going to get Rich Hill
or Dallas Kyle from the Royals.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
I'll hang up and listen.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
You know, I was just trolling. We're not going to
answer that.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Is Rich Hill a member of the a ar pt
or is it on the precipice of hitting that number
or what?

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I think He's the the first player to be on
the old in the old Timers league and and the
at the major league level.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, I believe Rich Hill did throw a pitch to
I believes uh oh yeah, we're getting worried. He did
throw a few to Babe Ruth very young.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
And in his major league career. Oh man, Eric eric.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Is, eric Is, I would say one of a kind,
but we've had a lot of listeners like Eric, so
it's not like he's one of a kind.

Speaker 9 (29:55):
I think he has a he's a calla with the
most balls. You hear that, you know what. I respect this.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
There's a thin line between bravery and stupidity. I believe
it is a very popular saying.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
That's what they call this show sometimes bravery and stupidity,
which is which Oh my goodness. All right, there you go.
So we got that going on. All right, ten forty two,
We're gonna take a slight break from baseball. We'll get
back to the conversation with Brian Bogasvik coming up at
eleven o'clock here on Sports Talk seven, and we are

(30:29):
going to get into the hyperbole that I'm hearing from
the SEC media days ten forty three ec S E
C S E C. By the wait, does that person
lose his job. When Sark went out there and the
Yaggie wore him was being played.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
That was pretty funny. I feel like that was like
accidentally on purpose by they got to they gotta get
to the bottom of that. That doesn't seem that just
this seems I guess it's probably one track off on
whatever ced they made. But well, if they made it,
I guess I was gonna say, and everything digital by now, shush,
all right, I dated myself.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
It's fine on the tape, Jonathan, do you know what
a VCR is?

Speaker 4 (31:14):
By any chance?

Speaker 9 (31:15):
I know all that vass I grew up on last though.
I was like the last was the last little age
part of it.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
All right, We'll get to Ross's eight track out and
discuss this of the music next here on the mat
Time Show with Ross seven seven one three two one
two five seven ninety seven one three two one two
five seven nine zero with a war.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
So.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I've been listening to a little bit of Gordy and
Dann Matthews in Atlanta at the SEC Media Days, and
I've been watching some of the sports centers and the
Fine Bomb shows and whatnot, just kind of getting the
lay of the Lanta what's happening. And there is obviously
the number one theme and it's been this way probably
at these media days for the last four or five years.
It's the economics of the sport. And they and the

(31:58):
boys this morning had Grigs Sanke on for a few
minutes and he was very polite. And I've seen Kirby
smart with some interviews, and the thing about Sankie today
that bothered me, and it's not necessarily bothered me.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
It was just give me some new material.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
He's like, you know, we gotta get a handle on
this nil and transfer portal thing.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
And then all the media goes. It makes a lot
of sense to me, we gotta get this handled.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Ross the The SEC doesn't want any handle on this.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Dancy is.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
He wants it to be exactly the way it is.
We can outspend you.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
We have bucks.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
We're gonna go get the best players and the rest
of you will say all the polite things, but we
don't want well, we have no interest in making sure
that Arizona State is competitive with us. We want to
be who we are and I wish they would just
be fully honest about they don't. They don't want regulation.
They need to say they want regulation. They don't want regulation.
Come on, let's be honest. People are lying all over

(32:53):
the place. That's why I tell people lie all the time.
Greg Sankie's lying a nice guy, commissioner, missioners.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Thats what you can say. Yeah, you have to say
it publicly, Like, we got to keep an eye on this, guys.
We can't keep being four of the top five teams
in the ranking recruiting here. This is horrible.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, I mean we you know, we really we would
like to see you in the bottom. Really going to
step up a little bit? What?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
And then Kirby Smart was asked.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
He says, if there was one somebody asked me, if
there was one thing you could change, And this does
make a little bit of sense. He says, if we're
signing players and we're giving them anim money, we have
pult him to a contract. Apparently these contracts are not
worth the paper, that arett On.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of legal reasons for that. Yeah.
So I just was curious.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
I was interested to see if there was any breakdown
on players. Again, going through the too deep of south
coast South Carolina is not interesting to people. It's about
this stuff. And this is what our show's about. It's
about the bigger picture of things. So on three is
a website right on three Sports. Yes, Pete Nakos is
a business writer for said website. He put out a
tweet yesterday the top ten biggest spend in college football

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this season.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Stay with me on this Ross Auburn.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Ten sec, Tennessee Sec nine, Michigan and USC are tied
for seven. Big Tech Miami at number five along with
Texas A and m SO it's three SEC teams Oregon four,
Ohio State three. The two biggest spending teams in the

(34:31):
country in nil quote unquote paying for athletes is ore
will be this year at number two Texas Tech and
number one.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Texas Texas Tech number two, number two. They gotta get
their team rankings up. They only have one five star player.
I guess you gotta pay. You gotta pay those premiums,
get them up to Lummock.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Well, it's funny because because I did see a tweet
and I sent it to my son, and he's not
happy with me. On three Sports says Texas Texts roster
is set to cost north of twenty eight million dollars
this season. Here's the part of the last part of
the court and he's the work camera was not happy

(35:20):
with me.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
They have to.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Pay thirty percent more to get the players they want
because of location. I mean, the truth hurts sometimes. The
dust ball over there. That was Jonathan that said does ball.
That was not me.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
You can tell by how fast he said it.

Speaker 9 (35:41):
My dad's a graduate from Tokay and it's it's just
not that pretty.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
I you know how I feel.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
But I love it. You love it. I do love you.
Glue love going to the Rexis Roadhouse out there and
having a great time. They got they got to they
got to reoff rings there. Now that's great. They gotta
mees making. It was a groundbreaking ceremony. I think the
mayor was there. Let me taste of them.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
When you get when you have one less Rappeleris and
you got an extra rehab ranks, you're very happy.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Don't word of the shrimp.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
They're not catching it out of Lake TeX's omber.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
The hell I was up there, I don't think so. So.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
I was thinking about Texas Tech for a second here,
Uh huh. You have to bake the playoff right when
you're paying twenty eight million dollars correct.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Their recruiting class is thirty third. Maybe they're spending a
lot in the portal I'll go look at the portal classes. Uh,
but as far as new recruits, they're twenty eighth on
twenty four to seven and thirty third on on three.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
I mean, am I not right?

Speaker 3 (36:46):
I mean I know the one that one dude loves
his school and he obviously he's got more money than
God at this point.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
But oh, they're number two in the portal rankings.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Imagine that.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Texas Texas Tech University twenty eight million dollars for.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
A roster portal rankings LSU Texas Tech, Miami Ole, Miss Oregon.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Boy, Miami Miamian organ Well, Oregon's always gonna have the money.
Phil Knight's basically said, I'm gonna just continue to give
money until you get me a national championship. He would
wait for That's a great example. You think money in college, doesn't.
I mean, we don't have a huge example size of
this because it will have been around a few years.
But Phil Knight said, I'm gonna continue to give money
because I want a national championship. I'm dying for this.

(37:38):
It is Yeah, it's so hard. Which twenty eight million could?
I mean Texas Tech had finished eight and four. Again,
you know who's good. These coaches ross are gonna have
such a short leash. Now, if you thought the pressure
was bad, now, imagine if you gave your head coach
twenty eight million dollars for a bank roll and you

(38:01):
can't win at least the big twelve.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Ryan Day would have been fired if there wasn't a
twelve team playoff, if it were a fourteen playoff they
were the sixth seed, Yeah, he would have been fired.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
That's why I think we're going to start to see
a lot more college coaches, not necessarily leaving the coaching industry,
but maybe thinking more pro down the road.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well jobs, and most of them go to guys who
are already NFL assistance. It feels like it's either retreads
or guys who are NFL assistants.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
I mean, you tell me, if you're Joey mcguarre today,
you are very happy that you've got somebody giving you
that kind of cash.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
But but when that least is very short, right, Absolutely,
that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
All Right, Brian boga Sevic, we'll get his thoughts on
the All Star Game and the.

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(40:35):
a happy all star break your thoughts about the just
the general evening, everything.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
About last night.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Tell me what you did and did not like, if
there was anything about both that kind of uh dre
drew your interest about last night's events.

Speaker 8 (40:50):
I'm kind of in the middle about everything. I I
you know, enjoy the celebration of the game part of it.
I enjoy kind of the celebration of also the individuals
and letting guys kind of get outside of the team aspect.
A little bit and see some personalities at the same time. I'm,

(41:11):
you know, after close to one hundred games of Reil
baseball and exhibition game, I'm kind of man about I
do like the idea of trying out some different things
and having the game be a little bit different than
than just your average regular season game and putting in
some some you know, different tweaks or ideas that we'll
maybe see in the future. But but other than that,

(41:33):
for me, it's it's not necessarily about the game. It's
just about the weekend and the events and the people,
and you know that's that to me is the fun part.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
All right.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
A couple of real quick things. Automatic Ball Strike Challenge system,
would you think?

Speaker 8 (41:49):
I like it. I liked it in spring training. I
like I like where they're going with it. I think
they've done a really nice job. You know, they've They've
used it for so long and so many games in
the minor league that I think they've got a really
good feel for how to use it quickly and efficiently.
I like the added drama of showing it up on
the big board in real time and kind of giving

(42:09):
the crowd something to get into. I think it's a
great idea. I was a big proponent of if we
got it, let's just use it for every pitch. But
I do like the way they're trying to use it,
you know, just more you know, important situation type of
way bogie.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
We had Bregmana with us a couple of years ago
when he was still with the team in spring training,
and we thought he would universally, like every player would
love it. The consensus was we couldn't find enough people
that are active players that love every pitch being determined
ball strike via the computer. Why do you think so

(42:46):
many players are against it?

Speaker 8 (42:50):
They're just naturally resistant to change. First of all, I mean,
when you've when you've spent the amount of time preparing
and training to play a certain way, the idea that
things are going to be changed and there's going to
be some unknown is a little bit unnerving. But they
also assimilate to everything really quickly and very smoothly. I

(43:11):
think also there is, you know, the the human element
in the gamesmanship is something that you can appreciate while
you're in the game. You know, from the outside looking in,
it's very black and white. It's like, if it's the
ball we want at a ball, it's to strike. We
want to strike. But the idea of you know, watching
a Zach Grinki hit the outside corner over and over
and then start going an inch or two off and

(43:32):
walking the umpire off the plate as well as the
hitters like you know, that appreciation of skill is something
that could be lost if we're just using a computer
and it's black and white. So I think it's two things.
I think it's just natural or resistant to change, and
them not wanting to lose an element of true greatness,
not being able to exploit human error.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
I guess, yeah, that makes some sense. Let me also
ask you this and we'll get ross. Got a couple
questions in after me. One of the things I brought
up about the ABS is what are managers going to
tell their players? When and if? Do you use it
in the right situations? Do you potentially squawking something in
the third inning knowing if you lose it you might

(44:17):
not get it? You know, got one challenge left if
this comes into play. My question to you is, if
you were a manager, what would you tell your twenty
six man roster about how and when and what seems
appropriate to use those abs? Is because if you lose
the two challenges, you're done. You may want them in
the ninth thinning of a very close game.

Speaker 8 (44:35):
Yeah, I think first and foremost you express, uh, the
idea that it is for important situations, right, It's something
that flipping inning, flip a game, flipping that that im
preferably later, high leverage type of situations. Stepping said, I mean,
there are so many guys. You know, if East Parades

(44:56):
is one hundred percent sure that a ball got called
to strike, I'd be okay with him challenging. You know,
it's kind of got to be a little bit of
self recognition. Also, I think I think some of that
some of the teams in the way they were using
it in spring training. It was a good idea where
from the pitching side they put it on the catchers
to be the ones making the challenges and not the pitchers,
trying to take a little bit of the emotion and

(45:18):
adrenaline out of it. And uh, you know, I think
it's going to be kind of case by case basis.
But you know, even in they had meetings with teams
in spring training just going over this, and everybody is
on the same page that the way that it's being
implemented and most likely will be implemented, is to not
try to change in o pitch in the first inning.

(45:40):
It's to try to get, you know, a big pitch
right in the seventh or eighth inning in a one
run game. And if everybody kind of understands that, I
think guys will be fine just letting it back to
play out the way they do in your kind of
running the middle type of situations. You know, for the
for the most part, everybody understands that maybe there's a
couple of you got to pull aside and have a

(46:01):
conversation with him, like, hey, you do not have the
green light to call. I mean, you got to shut
guys down on the base pass every once in a while,
you can shut them down on challenging stuff too.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
That'd be a fun conversation to have Brian bugas s
Evic with us here to Sports Talk seven and transitioning
a bit to the team and this and the second
half coming up. Let's start with Hunter Brown. Last couple
of starts not the way that he wanted them to go.
What do you think as far as what's happening with him?
Is there just some fatigue? Is it just a couple
of bad starts and that's it. And also kind of

(46:30):
a gut feeling from you do you do you think
with him pitching on Sunday, do you think he'll get
a couple of extra days off for the weekend or
where do you think Joe Spot is gonna throw them?

Speaker 10 (46:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (46:41):
So I think coming out of the gate, my guess
is you see both Fromber and Hunter in the Seattle
series because you need that, and I think it'll be
Fromber first and then Hunter in either game two or
Game three. I think you know Fromber will be on
an extra day rest going Friday. You don't want him

(47:02):
on too much rest. And Hunter looks like he can
use an extra day or even two. So as long
as you get him in that series, I would be
fine with him throwing Sunday. I actually liked the idea
of them being split up and you know, having the
ability to stagger them if you need to push somebody
to eat up innings because there's a short start somewhere.
But in terms of his last couple starts, you know,

(47:25):
it all kind of started in the Colorado start. For me,
the stuff just wasn't moving the same. I kind of
attributed it to altitude. You know, the sinker doesn't always
think the same way. Breaking balls don't have the same bite.
But then we kind of saw some of that stuff
carry over into Cleveland and then Texas. I think it
might be a little bit of fatigue. And you know,
I'm not talking about fatigue. Oh my gosh, he's dying

(47:46):
out there, his arms hanging. I mean, the velocity is
still there, the spin rates are still there. Everything looks good.
It's just every once in a while, Every once in
a while, there'll be a fastball that'll kind of get
on the side of instead of finish through it and
have that at the top of his zone. There have
been a couple of hits on changeups where they've kind
of cut back into the middle of the plate instead

(48:06):
of getting him getting on top of it and kind
of pronating and getting that drop and sink. And that's
just you know a little bit of release points stuff.
And if you start getting a little tired, your body
starts getting a little tired, things go out of sync
and it shows up at release point and it's just
little bits where you know he was he was There
were times when he'd go out there and throw a

(48:27):
hundred pitches and perfectly execute all hundred pitches. You know,
everything came out of his hand exactly how he wanted it.
You know, you get a little bit of fatigue and
all of a sudden, a couple of mistakes show up
in the middle of the zone and they get hit.
To be expected, he's one hundred and fifteen innings already,
He's gone deep into almost every start that he's pitched.
I think, you know, the All Star breaking, maybe an

(48:48):
extra day on the backside will be good for him,
And I think there's no reason that he's not going
to be fine coming out of it, all.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Right, And on the hitting side, it feels like, again
we ask every week about Christian Walker, how benefit So
you think a couple of days to clear the head
for him and and kind of finding where he's at
to where I mean, we are this deep into the
season and he's just still has not fully busted out
of the funk. And when it kind of looked like
he was unfortunately, although I'm saying, you know, in the

(49:15):
grand scheme of things in life, he doesn't think it's unfortunate,
but he had to go on to the praternity list.
Then he came back and didn't have a good series
against Texas.

Speaker 8 (49:24):
Yeah, it was unfortunate that the timing of it, you know,
because he was really heating up. But at the same time,
you know, he goes into the break having four days
to kind of sit on what he's done in the past,
you know, a couple of weeks, which I'm sure a
lot of that will just be baby time, not going
to think about hitting all that much, but you know,
to have a little bit of positive momentum with how

(49:45):
that last road trip went. You know, when you think
about a guy who goes into a prolonged slump, you
think there there there should be some you know, equally
high high coming off of it, and that's how it's
going to balance out. You know, maybe we're not going
to see that. Maybe we're not going to see, you know,
a month where he hits over four hundred and hits

(50:05):
twelve home runs. But you know, maybe we're just going
to see the guy, a guy who's putting up the
numbers that we thought he was going to put up,
just you know, minus the first six weeks of the
season or whatever whatever, and maybe it doesn't all the
way balance out. But you know, if you look at
his body of work over you know, a prolonged period
of that bats. It's not all of that far off.
And I know we haven't had that huge swing back

(50:28):
to correct it and level everything out for the hole,
but it's been overall not that far off of what
we expected. So I think the biggest thing for him
is now getting pitches into locations that he wants. You know,
he was trying to hit everything that they were throwing
at him, prove that I can hit all parts of
the strike zone. What I thought he did best on

(50:49):
that road trip when he's seeing the ball well, was
getting the fastball down in the zone out over the plate,
like you know, two ways you can deal with that
fastball at the top of the zone either figure out
how to hit it or to stop swinging at it.
And it looks like he's gotten to the point to
where he's going to try to stop swinging at it
unless he has to, you know, with two strikes. So
get pitches in locations that you want finished, stay a

(51:10):
bat on those pitches and deal with the results and
take what you can get. And I think, you know,
we're starting to see him move down that path.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Last question, Bogie, do you think that we'll know what
the injury status is of so many of these players
based off what Dana does.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
In the next two weeks via trade.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Would that be an indirect sign of Hey, Christian's close,
Hey we may get Luis Garcia back. Hey we might
have Spencer arraghetty. You're on Alvarez And I mean, is
there is there an if then statement to how active
the Astros are with potentially improving the team based off
of injuries or do you think if you had a

(51:53):
chance to pull Dana aside and say, hey, even if
you get one, two, three of these guys back, you've
got to go get some reinforce before the deadline.

Speaker 8 (52:02):
No, I don't think it will have anything to do
with injury status or injury severity, because I don't know
that they have the ability or means or desire even
to make a big move if one were warranted. You know,
if if if you were counting on Jordon coming back

(52:23):
and all of a sudden they know in the back
of their mind he's not coming back, there's no move
to be made that they can make to go to
go replace that. So think I think that the moves
that they can make and will make because they're going to,
you know, certainly do something are going to kind of
be the same types of move the same caliber of moves,
which which will be additive but not big. And you know,

(52:45):
even if you're going to get a good chunk of
those guys back on the pitching side, you're still probably
going to want to add an arm. And if you
aren't going to get those guys back, I don't think
they have the ability to go add a bunch of arms,
and I don't think they have really the prospect the
capital to go out and add a top of the
rotation type of guy. So you know, I think they're

(53:06):
kind of just in the situation that they're in where
you're gonna kind of, you know, add on the fringes
and and and solidify some things and hopefully get all
the guys back that you're expecting to get back. But
if you're not, you're kind of just in the position
that you're in.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Bogie, great stuff is always hope you can charge some
downtime and we'll talk in next week. Thank you for
the visitors.

Speaker 8 (53:26):
Always all right, cool, see you guys.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
You got Brian Bogusvic with us here on Sports Talk seven.
Huety but it's here the Matt Thomas Show and Ross
seven one three two one two five seven huntis if
you would like to come in and tell somebody to
shut their bull masses up, You're more.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Than welcome to do that.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Eric and basically feels like he's a Hall of Fame
class member of that would you say Correctly Sports Survey.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
He's one of the Hall of Fame dumbest calls consistently
of all time. Er yeah, or one of the greatest
trolls of all time, one of one of the others.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Balls, most balls, most balls is being Darian saying things.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
He just says stupid craft to get on the radio.

Speaker 9 (54:02):
I've never seen a competational caller like him in my life.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
You've been around long enough. He's yeah, he loves me wrong.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Yeah, that's fine. All right, that's coming up to ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
So I'm listening to bogie and with such a nice
perspective to get his on the show, because he's he's
he's direct, but he understands. He gives you that player perspective.
He's not been too far away from the baseball field.
I I really got the sense. And and look, Dana,
he doesn't speak for on Dana's part, and he certainly
doesn't speak for Jim Crane, but uh, I think Dana's

(54:36):
holding on. He's clutching out of these jewels known as
his draft picks, and I think he's he's he's having
fatigue about moving players ross and I do think they
need an arm I I said that on to tell
the truth on Monday. I don't know. I'm not counting
on a hobby er. I'm not counting on Garcia arrag Getty.
It's looks like he's starting to throw, which is a

(54:56):
good sign. Whom else am I forgetting about anybody else?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Luis Garcia, J P.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Frantz, JP no JP France.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
No no no, no, no, no, no no, and no one
knowing no no no.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Well you hold on, you said, Gusto Gordon. And the
boys are all great.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
No, I didn't say they're great. I said they're doing
their job.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Okay, great to a relative term. You talked about how
the PHARMCISTM rankings don't mean anything because all these guys
are so great, So you'll about pitching.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
But you so, if your minor league system is twenty eight,
that means there's not there's not a lot of people there,
and frankly, to me, that also means two things. It
means that maybe you you want a player from another
team ross and maybe that organizations like I don't like
your system.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Yeah, you gotta you gotta pile up a bunch of
one and two dollars bills to get to ten.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Well, in my case, nichols and dimes. But that's a
different issue for a different time.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
I don't get the feeling it's gonna be a very.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Intriguing deadline.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
I'm with you. My gut feeling is there. I think
there will there will.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Be a move made here or there, correct, but it
will not be one of those that were like when
we do our breaking news sirens, it could be what
one or two? Maybe if you get a if we
have a three siren of three breaking news, that means
something pretty impactful was made by the team.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Uh. I'm gonna just tell you. I just and you
can't build a team on hope and a prayer. Uh Oh.
I think the pitching is gonna be fine if they
don't make a move. I really do. Hunter Brown Farmber
is already the best one two in baseball. You just
need one and a half ish of Arraghetty, Javier and

(56:48):
mccullors and and you'll figure it out from there. It's
the playoffs. You don't need to go five deep. You
need four though, And so they had to make the
move for Kakuchi last year to get to the playoffs.
They would not have made what they were. They were
like nine to zero in his first nine starts or
something like that. They don't make the playoffs. What I

(57:10):
don't think or they needed to make that move to
make the playoffs. You don't need to make moves to
make the playoffs this year. The way you are, you're
five games up, I know that is tight, but I
think getting your guys back, they're gonna be good enough.
The Mariners, quite frankly, I have more confidence that the
Mariners and Rangers are just not very good than the
Astros are that good. So you don't need to make
moves to get into the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Once getting in and winning, and this is what we've
talked about before, you might not have the best team
in going into the playoffs, but baseball works quirky that way.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
If you go the twenty two formula was now the
lineup was better at this point. But if the Astros
get fully healthy, we'll see the twenty two formula was
great pitching and an insanely great run from the bullpen,
and enough hitting they can they can get to get
to a World Series like that.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
We'll see how healthy the Dodgers or whoever else comes
out of the National League is.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
But they look the Tigers are good. I ain't scared
of the Tigers. Yankees are good. I ain't scared of
the Yankees. Not saying that the Astros are gonna steam
roll all them, but I think they can't. Cannon would
win series against those teams as comprised. I would be
PRIATORI prioritizing a bat. I just would. And I understand
the thinking of, Okay, you can't. You can't bank on

(58:30):
Hobby and all those guys. But Dana Brown says he's
pretty close. Of course, we've seen setbacks. But even if
if that happens, rag Getty, I'm not worried about it
because it's not like it's been an elbow issue. It
was literally a bone and freak bone injury that he
should be fine from.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
But I think we were saying that forty five days ago.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Yeah, Okay, Oh do you think there's some kind of
elbow setback. No, I just don't know that.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Unless the ball that was that hit him basically decapitated
or sliced off his finger. I mean, I don't think
there's an imputation. But yeah, I'm just here's here's the
reason why I'm going on the pitching front. Not that
you couldn't use both. Okay, I'm on the preface.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
I would have. I'm here agreeing with you on that
you could use both.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
But way mccullor's is way too yo yo.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
There he is.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Who he is, at least for this year, and Gordon
and Ryan Gusto and who else am I forgetting about
the rookie, the.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Soft Brandon Walter.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
I mean, it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
It's like you could you could go with one of
those guys for three innings in a playoff game and
then go to a to a bullpen situation, and that's
this is worst case scenario. This is Hoavier coming back
and he's or have Hoavier not coming back. And I'm
maybe I'm banking too much in arraghetty, but I think
because of the lack of resources in the far system,

(01:00:00):
that is the route that Dana Brown might have to.
That's where I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
I think there just isn't enough that's going to appease
other teams. All right, let's tell some people to shut
their bull masses up. Seven one three two one two
five seven ninety seven one three two one two five
seven nine zero seven one three two one two five seven.
There's somebody that's made you mad, you want to tell
them to shut their bomb masses up. Let's go if

(01:00:25):
somebody at the office is just talking to you ad
nauseum about things you don't care about, because you're trying
to get your your deadlines meat and they're talking about
their meat left.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
They cooked for you, they cooked for the last night.
Anybody got time for that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety seven
one three two one two five seven ninety Shut your
bull mass up is next, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
It's our favorite half hour of the radio week. It
is for me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Somebody irritates you, Somebody say something wrong, somebody cut you off,
somebody rude to you at the office.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
In your home.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
I've been on three two one two five seven on
E's so kind to call your wife and tell her
to put the radio on and tell her then to
shut her bumb ass up, and I will get you
very far in life, but it's worth a try. And
then if something happens in your life involving your wife,
which I'll be discussing today on my radio show here
with you Ross, oh oh, you can say, nobody got
time for that. So with me doing these radio shows

(01:01:22):
from our hotel, She's like, I'm not gonna sit and
watch you do a four hour radio shows.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
But you're boring.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
I'm like, well, honey, this is what I do for
a living. Oh, thank you very much. Appreciate you, Matt,
love you. She goes shopping Ross while I'm gone, and
she went She went to the University of Rhde Island.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Book story yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Oh no, and she lowered up on gear. Now she
did buy it. She did buy some stuff from me,
and I was very appreciative. But she also bought for
people that are like people she's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Not seen forty years.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
I'm just kidding about that. No, she's all the kids
have gear. My father in law has gear, my mother
is gonna have gear. I mean, everybody's got your second
cousins dogs, I mean dogs. So she comes in with
the gear and then she says, I gotta go get
one more thing out of the back of the car,
and I'm like, what do you have to get?

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
She bought a suitcase yesterday just for the gear.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
What.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Ain't nobody got time for that? Ain't nobody got time?
Ford Now, so I'm dumb. I thought it was. It's
not Rhode Island College. It's the University of Rhode Island.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
University, Rhode Island. Okay, seventeen thousand students, big school. Okay,
what's Rhode Island Rhode Island College. That's something else. I mean,
I like a smaller Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
I've never heard of it. Oh, okay, there's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Actually several Division I schools that play in the state
of Rhode Island. There's Providence, University of Rhode Island, Brown, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
There's Rhode Island College. It has enrollment of sixty one hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
The things you learn on the Matt Thomas Show at
ROSS it's public. Okay, well, good for them. Yeah, card
will be playing in the Atlantic ten Conference. Okay, horse,
can you name the two most famous basketball players ever
to play at Rhode Island?

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Uh, Catino Mobley and I can't remember. You're gonna say it,
and I'm gonna. I'm gonna remember it, so just correct,
just say it lamorrow tomorrow them Man, oh I should
what did you do? Oh? He had a nice NBA career.
I didn't know was that hot caliber guy come out there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Till until he hooked up with karkadish well and then he.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Was on crack and doing fake Viagara and having heart attacks.
But so to my beautiful wife who's not here right now.
The most famous crackheads in American history, Rhode Island, University
of Road.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Islands, Rhode Island, go rams, I say to anybody that
has to go to a department store to pick up
a suitcase just to put souvenirs and take.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
It back, Ain't nobody got time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
No, we're gonna we're bringing bringing it in home on
the flight. Man, that's you might be the number one?
How been and math day? Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
You see any issues I may bring to this show,
they're well, there's some foundations it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Man, that's so many things to say and none of
them to say on air. Oh don't because she'll find you,
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
She'll land at the airport tomorrow Like uh huh, I'm
already on her bleep list.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Anyways, various misgivings.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
They're going to Newpolt tomorrow, New Paul R Island.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Oh, are they going to the International Tennis Hall of Fame? No,
why not? I told our buddy I would say I
would say it in the next couple of years. I
think they have a display of Pete Sampras's back here. Hey,
nobody got today?

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
What's wrong with you all this week?

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Y'all like doing this? No, he means, like we have to.
I'm gonna go. Yesterday I went to see the Superman movie,
already gave my review seven and a half out of ten.
Right now, one of the group of four of us
was behind, and I wanted to send that person a
ticket because everything's digital these days. Well megal minimas and

(01:05:06):
they're infinite wisdom. When I try to send one ticket,
it sends all four. Now, I didn't hit send, but
there's no way, there's no option. I'm sitting there talking
to the guy at the kiosk who's looking at our tickets,
and I'm like, I'm sorry, is there a way to
split off these tickets? He's like, no, you can't do that,
And I was like, why not? And then he's like,

(01:05:27):
I don't know, and then you know it wasn't his fault,
you know, he just he's a movie nerd and doesn't
know how to talk to people. And that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
But it's like, there is no possible way to send
a person one ticket who's gonna be about twenty minutes
behind us because I wanted to catch the previews.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
That person could make it. That's fine, it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Makes no sense. Ain't nobody got time for that legal minimas.
I'll call you out, Regal Cinemas. Make a way you
can split off tickets is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Why told you what happened to me with in Vegas
with Barry Maniloa? Did I know? I think? So let
us Yeah, likeness.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
I uh my wife bought the tickets and oh that's right,
you couldn't Transraster said that she couldn't transfer them to me,
so I had to go. I didn't have to log
off on mine and pretend I was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Her and you talked about them on this segment, yeah, ricket.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Raster, No, No, they deserve to get bleeped on ticket Racketmaster.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
So absolutely one percent suck.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
And I don't know if there's some option I didn't click,
but I couldn't split off one ticket, and so I
had to screenshot the QR code and then explain to
the guy like, hey, when he comes with this code,
you know you gotta let this person in. But whatever,
everything was fine, but this is it was an extra
headache nobody needed.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
All right, completely understandable.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Ross.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
I am one hundred percent on your side on this.
All right, Jonathan, what's the matter with you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Uh? I'm on the TV right now. It's the Pat
mccuyvory Show, The What Show. I'm trying to Pat McCaffrey.
Pat McCaffrey. I thought we were posted okay anyway? Uh
I you know what I do?

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
Like that are calling him Pat mccan ugh.

Speaker 11 (01:07:06):
Uh So he has jelly Roll on here, and I'm
tired of seeing this dude. He's He's the most of
this generation, industry is everywhere, and I'm tired of seeing him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Ain't nobody that's time of this chords?

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Oh you're anti jelly Roll?

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Really can't stand him. I've never listened, so I can't.

Speaker 8 (01:07:35):
I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
I just see him anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
I couldn't tell you one of his songs.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
I know that my wife and my daughter like him.
But yeah, I mean the the tattoos on his face
or are not the best look?

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Yeah, it must be a big Gucci main fan even
post my own vibes.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
But I'm not gonna be judging mcjudge of that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
If you want to put you want to put various
mark to judge you. Why are you putting tattoos on
your face? Come on, by the time we were in
the grave, Matt Well, we have a president with face tats.
Feels like, feels like it could happen. Who a face tat?
Now you're gonna vote for the jelly roll posty ticket?

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Let me ask you this has Has there ever been
a president with a tattoo?

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Period? A noticeable one? Feels like it feels like Billy
C's got one. Come on, I'm sure Billy see in Arkansas.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
It's a picture of him with him meaning a big max.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
You think a drunken one. Yeah, that's funny, all right?

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Uh seven one three two one two five seven ninety.
If you've got something that's bothering you this week, we
give you another fifteen minutes or.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
So to let it all out here on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
I don't know if Carl and Dickinson is gonna tell
somebody shut their bumb mess up. But he's next up
here on the program. Carl, good morning to you.

Speaker 10 (01:08:56):
You know what, I have a called all year, and
so that's a blessing for y'all. But anyway, here's the deal.
We win all those games and we come back Cinderella
turns back into a punker down to the ball. I
think we need a psychologist for that team. There's something

(01:09:18):
mental going on, boys. That's all I got to say.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Hey, Carl, thanks to the fon call. Give us a
call back next July sixteenth. Appreciate you, brind and put
down the butt ice? Is that what he's drinking?

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Does he have a swish or sweetness mouth too? Probably
maybe a can of skuld You don't know that, I
don't not know it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Maybe he's calling us from the waffle House parking lot
bring to get him some scattered, covered and smothered.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
It's one of two things. He's been hitting, the mud
mice or the miller A biller, Bye byfe.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
The killer, Bye Byfe?

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
You like waffle House? Wait you don't, no, no, I
do know. I'm just I'm asking Oh yeah, yeah, man, Jonathan,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Like waffle house.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
I love waffle house.

Speaker 9 (01:10:09):
All right, you got some more dimmon points. I'll take
you back what I said about the cherries.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Oh my god, get me in into a waffle house.
Oh ross we can crush, oh so good. And the
egg prices are dropping, so that means it's not gonna
cost as much for that that two plate thing that's
got like six thousand calories on it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
I'm not familiar with that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
It's two eggs, toast, bacon or sausage, hash browns, and
a waffle.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
That's the all star that's called good for you, good
pulled by you. But see, I go to the waffle
house just.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
To watch the camaraderie fights between the cooks and the waitresses.
When the waitresses is screaming out the order and the
guy doesn't hear it the first time, and then she
screams it out again and she's He's like, you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Then the guy says, you don't talk so loud next time.
We didn't hear me last time. And then you didn't
watch our kids last night, and you why why were
you out to I mean, it's like a it's like
a Jerry Springer show at a restaurant, m Man, there's
fights and sometimes chairs get thrown.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
And there's fights too.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Yeah, I mean America, America is the waffle house.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Right when you think about it, Wow that you know what,
that's one of the most profound things you've ever said.
I think it is actually like one huge waffle house.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
America is one huge waffle house, all right. Seven one
three two one two five seven ninety. If you want
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Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
A couple more things.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
I gotta get off chest here. It's a hut joball
mass Ain't nobody got time for that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Wednesday to runkin ronuts Ross.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I don't know if you know this or not, but
New England is the home of runkin ronuts and they
just call themselves runkin' now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Yeah, I think there's one every thirty seven feet has
decreed by law, there is I saw.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
A runk and being built.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Within a runken really runk inception.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
So after the show yesterday we went driving around. Yes,
my favorite donut is the runkn Coconut toasted coconut donut.
So one got a coffee and I said, this is
a This is like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
We got out there at three eastern, so about three
thirty three forty.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
You like toasted coconut all the best, man, you that
is my favorite donut. You have the most unpredictable food
taste of anyone I've ever met in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
The house, how could you be surprised? It's an America's gift
fit a greasy fur Well. You know you a fancy Matt.
You know muffle House might be a little too low
brow for a fancy Matt. You would think roses. Don't
talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
I get to the Dunkin Donuts, Runkin Ronuts, Rucking ronuts,
medium coffee, two creams, one spunda, yes, or anything else?
I really would like a toasted coconut donut. Oh, sure,
we'll be happy to get before you pull up the order,
get there. We ran out of Runkin toasted coconuts.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
It made me sad. I'm sorry for your lost Matt.
You should be.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
I'm so emotional about it right now, ain't nobody got
time for a runkin Ronuts to be opened at three
thirty in the afternoon. Now have at least one toast
of coconut available to me. So there's a lot more
in Houston. Have they been building these up? There's more
in Houston than I thought. Yeah, there's one in Kingwood.
I mean they're all they're popping up all over the place.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
There used to be only a couple, right, And they
don't want to call themselves runkin ronut. They're just runking
because they wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
They want to give you the impression you can go
get other things besides donuts there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Oh, I guess all their other donuts are mid. The
toast of coconut is America's donut. What else do you dunk?
I'm not dunk in a breakfast sand watn't you dunk
a muffin? Nobody's dunking a muffin in their coffee?

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
The hash brown sticks?

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
And one more thing to all of you, Price Horse
that play believe it or not. The last two days,
the last two days, we have given away tickets to
see Rick Springfield and Wang Chung and who else is
part of that eighties thing?

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Spend out ballet whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
No one wants to go to that concert. That would
be a fun concert to go to. I mean, the
eighties is largely over when it comes to music. John
Wayne don wait, John Waite. John Waite's got a hit
you what stay with me?

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
In what country? Stop? Who is John Waite? Literally?

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna find a song of his. Okay,
we're gonna play it real quick. But point being is
this you price ars, never worry about if it's if
it's the uh, it's some no name band I've never
heard of before. You can't wait to play the game.
But it's for some reason, missing you John Waite, missing you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Yeah, they send you at all, miss uh. He's a
one hit wonder. I don't know if he's one hip,
but that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
One big, one hit number one. It looks like yeah,
oh hell no, it's that the whole night.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
It's one song.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Yeah, he's gonna play his one song and shuffle off
the stage. Then you're gonna wange Chunk spend more time
setting up his drum kit than then he's gonna be
actually be out there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Have you ever wang chunged in the Woodlands?

Speaker 8 (01:15:58):
Before.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Will you get a chance today? At one?

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
I haven't Wayne Jung in many years?

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Oh, this is this? No, this is fine, It's fair.
That's what John Waite is. It's all right. This was
a number one hit.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Ain't nobody got tired for y'all? You price or being
picky about your prizes? All right, be better America. And
this is number one in nineteen eighty four.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
This is not a This is not a banger, but
it's not terrible. It doesn't hurt yours. What I'm saying
it should be like top forty, but this number one hit. Dude,
The eighties were a dark time in music. I'm telling
in some respects. John Ways isn't a woman.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
No, it's a dude. Most famous songs.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
This may not take very long. This is not terrible
lines and night, oh right at the chorus he cut
that's There's also on a song called when I See
You Smile? But when he was a bad English? What
the hell is bad English? Okay, you're just off his
Wikipedia page. You don't know any of this. When see No, No,

(01:17:04):
No Awake at night, I just had a caller and
just get mad at you don't know the John Waite stuff. Man,
So you know, yeah, oh he had Oh he had
one big hit. Oh he's getting multiple Sorry, I'm sorry
he had one. Okay, tears was a number thirty seven
hit every step of the way it was twenty five.
He only had one major hit. I inherited none of

(01:17:25):
that and masking to the point am missing you sucks caller.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
In back of the point you price hours do not
be discriminatory towards the nineteen eighties one hit, wonders John
on seven or eight? John, what's the matter with you?

Speaker 8 (01:17:37):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Mt.

Speaker 12 (01:17:38):
First off, you're a fool if you don't wang chung.
Second off, I love to wing chung.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Oh. I appreciate that.

Speaker 12 (01:17:47):
I was on a business trip last week, just just
one night up in San Francisco at the Rariot, and
I got charged an extra eleven dollars and twenty eight
cents to have my room clean that I didn't really want.
But either way I get home, it's on my expense

(01:18:10):
report and I now have to set my company a
check for eleven dollars and twenty eight cents because that
was not part of my trip. So to both the
company and the Rariot, please shut chill bomb asses.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Ups man I respect that, but let me ask you this,
are you a Marriotte bonvoy member.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
He's not gonna be hung up, all right?

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
You get eleven and you get eleven extra miles for
that points just saying, but yeah, you shouldn't be charged
for housekeeping.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
It it's part of the daily thing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Charged for housekeeping.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
Yeah, that's what he was saying. Eleven dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Now, I'm telling you San Francisco Ross, it's got some
weird rules, dude, it really does. You can you can
defecating where you want to?

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Essentially, yes, I don't think that's legal.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
They charge you five percent for UH health insurance for
the UH for the wairess and waitresses, and I'm okay
with that. Actually it gets a price you though full.
You can tip less right in theory. You can fire
if you're sick, and you could bump it down and
i'd but I'd rather tip him more and he doesn't
get tax on that, Thanks President Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
Hello, Felipe, you're on seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
To a cap Well.

Speaker 13 (01:19:29):
First off, man, I don't know why you're picking donut
Dunkin Donuts over ships and the shippies the goat.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
But there's no shipling in in uh in Kingston, Rhode Island. Bruh.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
I mean, come on, I know they're popular.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
But not popular.

Speaker 6 (01:19:40):
You're right, You're right, My bad, my.

Speaker 13 (01:19:42):
Mistake, but I will agree with you on the prize
wars to all you prize horse that are not loyal listeners,
y'all take all the good prizes and then you'll leave
the loyal listeners with the crappy ones.

Speaker 6 (01:19:55):
No, thanks to all you prize wars set.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Show bomb as is u.

Speaker 13 (01:20:00):
We got time for you to run in at the
last ten to fifteen minutes of the show and tune
in and say, my favorite part is right now, favorite part.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Listen to the show. Please let us little listeners. Wendy's
price is yes shit, so bo Man's up. Man, Filipe, you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
You're absolutely one er percent Why I love you, Felipe.
Matter of fact, Ross, we should we start requiring people
to tell us a part of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Every day we give a password. How about we give
a pass. We give the password out three times a day. Okay,
we give a pass around ten o'clock, eleven o'clock, twelve
o'clock hour, and then at the one o'clock. We can
even do it at one ten or something. We'll do
it four times prize and Omar will do a password
day only.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Jim on seven hoey, Jim, what's the matter with you?

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
No, not so much. I just wanted to help you
out a little bit.

Speaker 14 (01:20:45):
With John Wade, I'm not a monster fan, but he's
more than just just so hold on, let me finish.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
I gotta help you guys out. He was also the leads.
He was also the lead singer of the Babies. You
remember the Babies, Midnight Rendezvous, back.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
On my Feet Again, isn't it time?

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
Every time? Time?

Speaker 14 (01:21:00):
I think you kind of like melodic rock, but a
couple of couple of pretty decent tunes with Midnight Rendezvous
and and back on My Feet Again.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
So he did more than just his solo career.

Speaker 14 (01:21:10):
Like I said, not a big fan, but he's got
He does have a catalog, so don't short what So
what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
I caught the tail in it as you?

Speaker 5 (01:21:17):
Are?

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
You going to see him a concert? Matter? What's the story? No, Jim.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
The last couple of days, I'm believing or not the
prize horse who will win? For they'll go see with
some Raindo band. We're also giving away the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Psychedelic first John Wade.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
You they can't run the phones fast up to when
tickets to see a psychedelic First we have a chance
to go see Wang Chung, Rick Springfield and John Wade
and nobody wants to play.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Believe it or not, I'm gonna do that's a that's
a hard pass for me. Oh no, you're not helping.
We lost to go see Dires straits will down. So
they have this in the uh what uh? I want
my TV money for nothing? Chicks for free song? What else?

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
Walk of Life?

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
That's a good one. That's a jam. Yeah, guitar job
all right? Are they even active? No? I don't think so.
Mark Knopfler was a great guitarist.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
But if they were active, we'd give away tickets. And I
wonder if our prize horse would appreciate that or not?

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
It is the third hour of The Matt Tommy Show
with Ross on Sports Talk seven ninety seven one three
two one two five seven nine. If you'd like to
join our show seven one three two one two five
seven ninety We had a fun edition of Shut Your
bull mass Up and anybody got time for that? The
All Star Game from last night will be part of
Today's News at noon.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
We had a little extra dramatic. Yes that it was
quite dramatically. Sorry, go ahead on the Kevin Burkhardt of
Houston Sports, Oh wow, that's actually Oh would you see
those Jebronians they all picked their teams they used to
play for to go the World Series. No, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
Yes, Alex Rodriguez Yankees, Derrek Tutor Yankees, Big Poppy red
Sox well Man.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
I was feeling good about my prediction that it wouldn't
even be close, with the National League winning when it
was six nothing in the sixth. Unfortunately, a furious comeback
by the National League All Stars forcing I'm yeah, sorry,
the American League All Stars forcing a swing off which

(01:23:35):
the National League did this still win. So if you,
by the way, does that pay out on the money line?
If I moneylined National League? Do I get that? I
believe you do. Yeah, okay, that's the way we were.
Somebody brought up earlier today that if you are one
of the players that gets miked up during the All
Star Game, you get an extra fifteen thousand dollars. H
I don't know. If I've never heard that, I don't know.

(01:23:56):
I would not say it wouldn't be true.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
These players are smooth moneyhorse, are they not.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
It's an insurance payment on your RAI well, it helps
you pay for that private playing when you leave in
the fifth inning.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Yeah, I got you, well man. The National League did
win the swing off in a tiebreaker. A couple of
interesting storylines would be the swing off tiebreaker. I think
most people liked it. Even though it's not the best option,
it is what it is. And then also, of course
the ABS challenge system used multiple times, feels like most

(01:24:30):
everybody found it pretty entertaining, and both of us have
predicted it will be instituted in the major leagues next year.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
The thing I loved about at most And again, look
I've only sawt in a handful of spring training events,
but it was very seamless, right, it wasn't clunky.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
No, I thought it was great.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
And the having it on the big screen behind him
and right field, I thought it was a really nice part.
So was it Kershaw that was talking about it or
oh it was Paul Skeans, I think is what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
No, I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
I didn't have a on the was schoobl It was
Detroit Pictures Attark schoopl was like, oh, I think I
got that one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
He was, Yeah, I got it. Oh. I love when
the guys talk on them during the game.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
Now I don't want them doing it in a September
Pennitry game that calls counts.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you on that. Yeah, it's fun
in the in an all star setting. To be sure.
Matt ratings are in for Monday Night's home Run Derby
on ESPN and Cal Rowley and the Big Dumper. Of course,
he is the Big Dumper, carrying them up five percent

(01:25:34):
from twenty twenty four an average audience of five point
seven to nine million viewers, up from the previous year
when it was Tasker Hernandez and Bobby wit Junior facing
off in the finals. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
I guess the question would be, is something in twenty
twenty five, with all the different television options and streaming,
did you get five point seven million?

Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
That that feels like a win to beat?

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Does it not? To you? I think that's a huge win. Absolutely.
I'd have to go look at the weekly rankings or something,
but I imagine they'd be one of the most watched
programs of the week.

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
But I mean think about this.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
In the seventies and eighties, network TV shows like Dallas
and Lavernon, Shirley and All in the Family would get ten, eleven, twelve, bash,
thirteen million people. But that you had five channels to
choose from. Cable was just starting up. You didn't have
a tremendous amount of options.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
You got seven million options.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
Now, yes, if I'm Major League Baseball, I get five
million to watch a homer in Derby. That the formula
really hasn't changed in twenty five years.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
That's a win for me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
I would agree with you, Matt on.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
That best thing about last night's game, which I didn't
talk to you about, the Hank Aaron tribute.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Oh my god, Yes that was cool. Oh Mileo Hamilton
mixed in there.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
Midyl and Ben were mixed in. And thankfully that Model
got his run because I and again I'm purely biased,
because obviously I knew Model for many many years. His
call to me is the definitive call of that moment.
But there were a lot of Vin Scully did it
for Dodgers television that day. The game was nationally televised.

(01:27:11):
Kurt Gotti, who was a Hall of Fame broadcaster. He
was doing the version. But it feels like to me,
a Model's call gets more of it because I think
it was a hometown call and you're naturally going to
go with somebody that was associated with Hank Aaron and
obviously Model was so great job by everybody involved in that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
All right, Matt, moving along, we'll go to the college
football realm. Texas football coach Steve Sarkisian is downplaying downplaying
nil's influence in Texas is recruiting amid reports of a
forty million dollar roster for the Longhorns this year. Steve

(01:27:47):
cars Sarkisian saying, it's more about relationship building. That's a lie.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
That is one hundred percent line.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Coach said, quote, we don't talk about NIL or revenue
sharing or publicity rights until the very end. Lie and
that may hurt us on some kids. Stop. But if
the kid is coming top players, if the kid is
coming to Texas for that reason, we don't want him anyway,
that's a lie too. I can't offer every player of
the most money that he might get offered from another school.
It just doesn't work like that. Yes you can, it's

(01:28:17):
not true.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
You can't out spend every kid every school and every
time of Georgia. You can't outspend on every single position.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Stop getting close though. No Texas, but.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
You know what, it's another reason I want to hate Texas.
Guess when Texas care. When Texas wins a national championship
there s here. It's not gonna because of hard work
and determination. Yes, it would and desire. It's gonna be
one you wrote a blank check and you said, hey,
come play for us.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Texas Tech is writing a blank check, so they're gonna
win the championship. Ohio State's writing a blank check whill
they won last year, Michigan State, Alabama. There's like ten
fifteen schools writing blank checks. They can't all win the championship.
Matt Well. Of course u H isn't gonna be anywhere
near it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
But that's when Tech, when you of H win the championship,
we do win based off of at sphere, education facilities, friendliness, friendliness. Yes,
you're gonna win a championships on the power of friendship. Yeah,
I mean, I mean, I'm going to say that if
you're I'm not gonna say that, but I'm want to

(01:29:14):
say that we're very so nobody on that, nobody on
that basketball team is getting paid. Huh, I didn't say
that we're we're not cash. Okay, forty million dollars that's
one of these teams, team general managers.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
How are these coaches are going to pay attention to
the payroll. I don't know. They shouldn't be. Aren't they
supposed to be turning a blind eye. It's all about
relationship building. That's what coach Stark says. He's a liar.
All these coaches are liars. So why I don't want
to listen to that? I think to an extent he's
right because if if Georgia and Alabama and whoever, they're
probably offering about the similar similar amounts, you don't just

(01:29:52):
uptick up the offer. And there are some players have
taken less to go elsewhere than go to different schools.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
I can tell you that all the top recruits going
to University Houston are taking less to go to Houston
because they want they want to get the great education.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Other schools went.

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
On off for well, they're at options, and they felt
like they were like, all right, s FA or Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
I guess I'll stay in Houston. Now. They got a
five star quarterback coming next year, right, he's not making
any money.

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
We got one right now.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
Okay, Connor Wegman, let's go what was the What was
the prediction for the place finish in the Big twelve?
I believe they were predicted to finished first or second,
first or second in the bottom fourth.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
That's not nice.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
Seven to one three? We anything else to go to here?
Before I thought you I would be nice to you.
I can't do it for four him. You know what
I was talking about, Sark, and you started being mean,
So you know what I pushed back.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
I'm gonna apologize even though you started it. I actually
know what I do like sorry man started it. I
do like Sark.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
I mean, do you feel as comfortable with your head
coach as you've felt in twenty five years, honestly since
mac Champan.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
She would do nice, but it's difficult. Gotten into the
final four twice?

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
Is it championship or busting Austin this year.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
I would say, or busting away championship or bus would
mean like it's time to fire Sark if they don't
win it. I don't think that's gonna happen. No, I
don't think so, and I wouldn't call for that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
All right, real quick. Do you think that the music that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Was played the aggie wore him when uh Sark went
up there?

Speaker 3 (01:31:26):
Was that intentional? Or do you think that was just
a miscase of mistaken fight song.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
I feel like it was accidentally on purpose, But who knows.
I don't care. At least ibody got a chuckle out
of it until I got Yeah, I mean I laughed.
I thought it was funny.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
Yeah, all right, let's get to a time out here.
We'll come back, We'll get some phone calls given, and
we have some NBA Twitter idiocy out there. We'll get
to that as well. And uh, if you did watch
the All Star Game, what was the very best thing
about it for you?

Speaker 4 (01:31:54):
And what was the absolute worst thing about it for you?

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety seven
one three two five seven Ony Ross, What is today's
edition to Believe or Not? Coming up today at one
fifty four amazing eighties concert tickets? It's Jim Waite or
whatever his name was, John Wait. Okay, Jim Waite was
his second cousin seven one three.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
What should it be? Oh? I believe it or not?
I don't know. It's a good questions, Superman. Wait We
did that already. We did that already.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
I'll just rehask those questions why you're not doing Wang Chung.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
I'm not making up. I'll have to make up six
things about Wang Chung. I don't know if it's.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
Even possible to do eight Wang Choe? What happened yesterday?
How about various long star players?

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
A coconut donut, like what's his name's towers or Towers, Towers, trowers.
I don't know what you're speaking of.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
The Miami Marlin. Oh my god, it's this person on
my Martin those tours, Kyle Stawstours, say it three times
fast Stowar Stowers.

Speaker 4 (01:33:07):
There you go much better seven.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
One three, two, one two five seven, Well twenty four.
Matt and Ross with you here on this Wednesday. Brian
mctaggertill join us tomorrow for his thoughts about the second
half of the season. He'll be heading up to Seattle
to see the Astros and Mariners kind of an important
three game series this weekend Friday, Saturday and Sunday in
the Pacific Northwest. All right, to this, back to this first,

(01:33:34):
that is, asking coaches and administrators and presidents how to
fix the college system so Ross, I'm going to give
you an open ended question. Okay, there is really no
wrong answer. So if I am to presume that the
SEC coaches who have more money, generally speaking, not all
of them, most of them have more money than anybody
else does, four to five schools maybe the big ten

(01:33:56):
at four or five schools that are making crazy money too,
that have money, and they're and they were really they
really do want to fix it. How do you fix it?

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Can you? Can you put.

Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
A salary cap on school?

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
You have to wipe out the NCAA or they're gonna
have to get rid of their exempt status. That's number one.
And then yeah, you make some sort of partnership. But
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
Because if you don't, if you don't put a salary
cap in place, and you let free spending going, there's
no way it can be fixed.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
I have a question for you. Yeah, why can't free spending?
Just why why can't it just continue? Well, I think
the answer is it's going to continue. No, I mean,
well why should it stop?

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
Because and I got I'm not saying, I'm just giving
you the the The other side of it is that
you want to create as fear of a playing field
as possible, not saying that all created equal because in theory,
NFL teams are all created equal. In theory, baseball teams
are you know, on the you know, no, they're not, yank
aren't created equal there, but inn't there.

Speaker 4 (01:35:03):
They're supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
But they're not. The naive approach would be, I do
want to have more schools, more.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
Competitive, playing at a higher level, with a chance to
win and win big that if we don't cap this
thing and money gets out of control, it's going to
be six to eight schools every year for the rest
of our college football life. You mean, you may say, well,
it's already that way. It has already been that way. Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
Who is the last non like big name off the
wall team to win win a college football national championship?

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Dancer is nobody? I mean, is BYU in nineteen eive?
Okay b YU in the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
Eight if that was forty years ago, or I mean,
I don't know, if you want to go, didn't Washington
win one in the early nineties? Colorado straight Colorado?

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
But those are power five, Power four programs.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
M M.

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
The true underdog would be the eighty four b YU
And no, there wasn't Big six and Big five and
Power five at that point, but that would be the
one that would come to mind immediately to me.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
And and how about this?

Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
But you know what, they're also mattered to each other too.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
You don't do you think that? Do you are?

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
Do you think Oklahoma's happy that Texas Tech is the
second biggest spenders? I get your waight up, son, I'm sorry,
it is what it is, Texas Texas spending money with
the Cody Campbell Texas Tech.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
In the previous system in the last fifty years, they
I'm gonna guess I don't know this for a fact.
I'm gonna guess they've won zero National football championships. Ever. Yep,
that'd be fair. And now somebody comes in and they
put some money in and they can inject some life
into the program. And yes, they have to pay thirty
percent more to get kids up to Lubbock, but they
have more of a shot than they did before. So
I argue that I argue the opposite the way that

(01:36:53):
this is now more programs have a shot than ever before.
Oregon with Phil Knight has a shot. One other under
previous regimes, or if he didn't exist, and they weren't
going to spend money, they would have no shot.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
So this actually, to me opens it up more than
it closes it, because I'm sorry to you know, uh whoever,
Texas State or whatever the under Louisiana Tech whatever, you
never had a shot in the first place. But I

(01:37:28):
feel like the biggest bitching is among those schools that
already have the money, right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
I don't know who? Who is George? How do you.

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
That Tech? Now?

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
Granted it could be for a variety of other reasons
besides the cash, but I think cash is a huge
part of it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
Let's not be naive to This.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
Is Kirby Smart losing his mind because two of the
top high school players in Georgia who had seriously thought
about staying home or going to Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
I mean, maybe I don't think's amazing they what do
I mean? What am I gonna do? What am I?

Speaker 7 (01:38:03):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
What is he gonna do?

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
They've had the top recruiting class lasted five years, But
he's gonna be thinking his mind if I have a cap.
Texas can't pay every one of those scores. Neither can Georgia. Though,
that's you're cutting off your nose it's spite your face. No,
I don't think that Georgie. I don't think that did
the Kirby smart. I think he's like chalking it up
to the game.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
I don't. I don't think he is losing sleep over
a couple of recruits because they've been just fine over there.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
You know what, I would actually respect, I actually respect
if a college coach during SEC media, it was like,
what do y'all want to do to fix this?

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
And it's saying nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
We're very pleased, very happy. We have a we have
a great collective behind us. We've got a lums that
want to spend the money, and because they want to
spend the money, we are all in for this.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
By twenty four to seven rankings, Georgia has the two
number two class Texas has the number seven.

Speaker 4 (01:38:53):
So let me ask you this.

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
If if we don't believe in a salary cap, I'm
gotta just throwing this out there, then why are there
not salary camp Why why are there salary caps in any.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
Sport that's collectively bargain between owners. This is college, this
is this is a free for all. Differ.

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
That's what people are saying is why can't a hundred
schools collectively bargain this. And my answer to that is
because one hundred schools have one hundred different agendas.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
They have one hundred different agendas.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
They have one hundred different I mean, they all have
different TV deals, they all have different resources.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
You have every every college. I mean Rice, what's the
enrollment of Rice five thousand? Yeap when including graduates? Including graduates?
What's the enrollment in Texas A and M A hundred
thousand fifty? Yeah? But yeah, I get you drift.

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
So I mean, this to me is funny because we're
gonna we have spent a lot of the summer talking
about this and a lot of the spring.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
Seventy nine thousand enrollment at Texas A and M.

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
Lordy, I thought Carl going to Rhode Island's gonna be
big at seventeen thousand M. But so if we're U
EL Monroe, we're just gonna enjoy our football gate and
four and be good.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
Yeah, take your check when you're in the non conference,
if you're s FA, when you come to Houston and
get your ass kicked. This this is what I Oh,
I'm gonna have so much. I'm just what Jonathan, you're
a young fool. We like you. It's okay hacked you
getting asked, Maddie. He said, you get asked. Cougars are

(01:40:30):
nothing to nothing to a love check. Oh my, I
love this is having July.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
He is so smack. Why is he smack talking? I
don't know, but I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
It's ridiculous. It's it's it's not professional. Cougar's getting hacked up.
Maybe let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
Twelve thirty two on The Matt Thomas Show with Ross
and poor Jonathan, who's obviously clinically ill at this point.
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety seven
one three two one two five seven Honey NBA Twitter,
Ross is broken.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
Can I explain to you why it has been fractured
for some time?

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
But I mean yesterday as I was just kind of
scrolling the for you tab and that's me being stupid again.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
But I'm obsessed with for you. I'm just gonna tell
you I am. It's one hundred percent broken.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
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one three two one two five seven ninety If you
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Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
Us through Twitter, you may do that as well. At
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Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
Twelve thirty six Matt and Ross with you on Sports
Talk seven.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Hoey.

Speaker 4 (01:41:39):
I hope you guys are having a nice Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
If you would like to join us on our radio show,
we have lines available for you if you'd like to
do so. Seven one three two one two five seven
nine zero seven one three two one two five seven
ninety all right, Ryan, SFA is dog water, s HSU
has whooped that ass for years.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
Are doing great. To assume SFA will do anything of
relevants is insane. Yeah, what we call you? Jonathan?

Speaker 9 (01:42:08):
Jonathan, Guys, I am talking to everybody that has the
radio on right now. I don't care if Ifs'll gonna
be like wow, like you have bad Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
It's okay, it's okay, it's okay, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
We don't know if Jonathan smokes any weed or large
amounts of it, but there's gotta be.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Something going on in his brain that's not working.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
All right, see last year pulling up the schedule from
last year.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
Don't dude, this is the poor kid that was good.
Seven and five Okay. Losses to McNeice ooh, North Texas oof,
Southeastern Southeastern Louisiana. Yesh, East Texas A and M Well,
I didn't know what that is and incarnate word. Mmmm,

(01:42:58):
it's okay, the East Texas A and M Lions that
used to be Texas A and M commerce. No, that's
not you're lying. That's from a movie or something. That's
not that's not a real school. It's not a real school,
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
So let me tell you about NBA Twitter for a second.
And this could be for any sport that you care about,
so forget.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
It being about the NBA. There are endless rumors about
Lebron James being traded.

Speaker 4 (01:43:23):
It is all over the place.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
That's not I haven't seen it. It's on your for
you tab.

Speaker 3 (01:43:31):
So now there are people on Twitter going to this
like this template and putting names in but using the
same message Blank is being traded to the blank. Okay,
the deal isn't public yet, no sham's tweet, but behind

(01:43:52):
the scenes it's done. And then you insert the players
and being named, and then it says the league is
about to be flipped upside down. I saw this with
Giannis a few weeks ago. Oh and then the very
last statement of the tweet says more info soon, Stay
locked in, all right, So the latest run of this

(01:44:12):
generic templated template, does that make it templated template?

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
Yeah? Yeah, tim templated templated Yeah, I'm going templated templated.

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
Tweet is Lebron James. I've seen this on about twenty
five different Twitter accounts. Now all those people have a
combined follows about seventy eight.

Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
Mute them. I need to just mute them, ah mut,
buttons different.

Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
So this is what some I'm not even gonna give
it the name because it's not even worth it. Lebron
James is being traded to the Dallas Mavericks. The deal
isn't public yet, no Sham's tweet, but behind the scenes
it's done. Lebron ad Kyrie. The league is about to
be flipped upside down. More info soon, Stay locked in.
When are we going to ever punish anybody for putting

(01:44:57):
crap against the wall and so seeing if it sticks.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
The misinformation it's.

Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
It's unstoppable because if you call somebody and say there's
a fire in your building and there's no fire, you
get in trouble for that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:13):
Now, this is sports information or rumors.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
So this this I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
Trying to equate the same of a the same as
a you know, screaming fire in a movie.

Speaker 4 (01:45:22):
Theater is compared to doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:45:24):
So you're saying, whoever is making ball sax sports needs
to be prosecuted.

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
Yeah, okay, that's okay, whatever, Sure, but what are we
doing here?

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
Ross? Why? Why? Why?

Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
Has who is the president of Twitter content watching? Is
there such a person?

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
I'm just gonna say, is Elon too?

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
I thought Elon and and and and Trump weren't getting along,
so he's got more time to focus on this.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
I don't know they're back together.

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
Who knows?

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
I have both of their names muted off my timeline.
It's I'm gonna say this, and it's I don't want
to you know again, Get off my lawn. Old man
shakes fysic cloud.

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
But it's true.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
The kids, it's the kids. I did stupid stuff on
the Internet when I was young. I made I've talked
about this, Like I said, back in my day, it
was message boards, not Twitter. But I did. I did.
I when I was like nineteen years old, make a
troll account and go troll Texas A and M and
O you boards on ESPN. Yes I did. Oh no,

(01:46:28):
I did you hear that?

Speaker 4 (01:46:30):
Folks? That's why we're embarrassed to having this a part
of this radio show.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
I'm stupid. It was a waste of my time, but
I thought it was funny at the time. And people
who make these accounts, they they love when they can
get somebody retweeting it or taking it. That's what's a
nice way to say. They get off on that. Excuse me,

(01:46:53):
they get they gained great pleasure. Excuse me, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
I'm looking for a different turn of phrase. But you
get my drifts. That's how they get their jollys. How
about that?

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
Excuse me? Okay, you can't excuse me that one. That's true.
People get their jollies off of misinformation, getting likes, getting retweets,
getting duping people, and it's a lot of people on
the Internet and they love it. And that's that's what
a lot of misinformation campaigns and or not campaigns. But

(01:47:29):
I'm just talking about like people who do individuals who
do these things, and so I just try to find
them and I try to mute them and go on
them by my day as best I can. And don't
these Twitter accounts get paid now for the Yes, yes exactly,
that's honestly, that was a horrible decision to pay people
based off impressions. And I said it when it was
gonna happen, because people don't even care. Now you have

(01:47:52):
people who get they get in groups with each other, Matt,
and they get in like these huge DM groups like
all right, you follow me, you follow me, you follow me,
I'm gonna tweet this. You got I'm gonna quot tweet
with this. Then all you guys retweet this. Then we'll
get all the impressions. And then they get all these
in these collectives where they're trying to make money off Twitter,
putting out the most ridiculous, reactionary stuff, getting as many
impressions as possible. Does it matter if it's true or not.

(01:48:15):
If you get ten million impressions off a tweet, your
payment doesn't care how many, how how accurate the information was.
The bottom line is you've got those impressions and you're
gonna get however X amount amount of dollars. But where's
that money coming from? Who's paying that out? I don't know.
It's I think it's very low, especially on Twitter, the
amount impressions you get, but it's more than nothing. If

(01:48:37):
you're in college and you're making a few extra hundred
bucks off of clique farming a couple thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
Today's kids doing giving, getting money, the old fashion weight
giving plasma.

Speaker 4 (01:48:47):
That's how you make the money.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
College. They're still doing it. Oh trust me, Oh you
do it, but you do paying center plasma on Tuesday,
Impression farm on Wednesday. By the end of the day,
you can make rent the end of the week.

Speaker 9 (01:49:00):
Kid of Pizzasmate that needed to pay rent, and that's
what you had to go do at the class.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
He had to go get to five cents rent. It's
funny they never asked for older, older people's plasma. Only
want the kids plasma. That's probably better.

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
Like is my is my pasma? Is my plasma old?
And and and uh not attractive to people.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
I don't know. You passing the blood test screening. You're
passing the screening. I don't think so. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:49:26):
I just I saw.

Speaker 3 (01:49:27):
This, this formula, this uh templated you know, and it
said Giannis Jams won't report it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
It's gonna happen. Luca does this.

Speaker 4 (01:49:36):
It's man.

Speaker 3 (01:49:38):
You have to you have to be so careful if
you use Twitter as a new source, just be super careful.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
What you read any old days, you could just see
if they had a verified check mark, and you knew
you were good. Yep. And now I'm more likely to
believe it's false when I see a check mark.

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
Now, and now you know we're got going now I
know this in the last days is now you've got
bots that are talking about your tweets and putting in
their own little crypto message at the very end. Yes,
they're like, oh wow, what a great tweet about the rockets,
Matt follow my guy blah blah blah for the greatest
tips on crypto, And I go to block them and

(01:50:19):
they've already blocked me.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
Yes.

Speaker 8 (01:50:21):
Again.

Speaker 4 (01:50:21):
It's it's really odd.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
What what the hell? Where did we go wrong? I
don't know? Yeah, where did we go wrong?

Speaker 8 (01:50:29):
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
Why can't we get gone right? I don't know?

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
And I know Blue Sky tried to do something. I
know that Threads are trying nobody, but they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:50:37):
Nobody's there. I go on a Blue Sky and then
it's like, there's nobody. You know what I'm gonna try.
I'm gonna try or threads, well, threads.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
The only reason why I'm an act even looking at
threads because it it has a relationship with it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
Yeah, at least it's time to Instagram, where you can
follow me at sports r E. I'm far away from
a thousand, you're four away. Yeah, well I got some
even better news. Go ahead. I'm only fifty three away
from twenty eight hundred. Wow. That's great, Matt just saying
follow at sports MT on Instagram. Thank you, sports MT.

(01:51:12):
Your blood pressure will be lowered, your four O one
CA will go up and people will like you. Oh
I got a new follower on threads apparently half an
hour ago. Thanks whoever. You are, all right?

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
Follow sports RV for him shooting videos. If his large
head with astrographics behind.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
Now, see if you click on the video, it's on
my head is like in the bottom third. It's not that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
Big, but it's But when I don't click, it's in
the upper third. It's the Okay, what do you want
me to do?

Speaker 5 (01:51:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:51:38):
It just seems weird.

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
It's like it's like you were in a you're taking
a college level film video class and shooting film with yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
It's a green screen with the chromo crete key and
you click the video, it's on the bottom end. I
make it. I make it tall. I don't want to
make it wide because Instagram you're supposed to put it.
You're supposed to make tall videos and pictures, so you'd
rather be taller than wider.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
What mm hmm seven three two five seven ninety Roscotte,
how much I hate Chandler Rome?

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:52:14):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Oh? Well, actually, I'm glad you asked. I will tell you.
I was reading an email that our friends at Sinergenics
want you to note that the free T test ends
July thirty. First had to fix mylow t dot com
thanks to all the great sponsors, including Synergenics. I did ask,
you asked. I was reading the email.

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
So Taylor Rome sends me two texts in the last
five minutes, and you're thinking, could it be baseball related?

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Zero chance? Uh, something happened to the blackjack table. He's
in Vegas. I think he's in Vegas. He sends me
where he's going to eat dinner tonight? Oo to make
you jealous?

Speaker 3 (01:52:53):
Yes, okay, so my reply was send me leftovers. Then
his reply back to me on what that was going
to the best brunch buffet in Vegas in twenty five minutes,
which is, oh, do you know it, or he's saying, oh,

(01:53:15):
I think it's with the wind. Okay, never been, it's expensive,
get delicious. And then I said on a bunch of
swear words that I cannot repeat in the air.

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
So, by the way, can I take an issue with
something I saw you say on Twitter about Vegas? He
confirm this, Yeah, please do didn't somebody was asking you
for Vegas tips or something? You said, younger crowd downtown.
Did you say that or did or misread it? I
would disagree with that. I think it's a younger crowd
on the Strip.

Speaker 4 (01:53:46):
Do you really huh?

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:53:49):
I don't associate.

Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
I mean when I walked the Strip, when I walked
Vegas downtown at eleven o'clock at night, when everybody's smoking
lots of pot and eating.

Speaker 4 (01:53:58):
Pizza, I stay with the younger crowd.

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
I think it's the younger tattooed for sure, the club
or the clubbing. Younger clubbing crowd, I would say, is
more on the Strip than downtown.

Speaker 3 (01:54:09):
Well, I mean, we're still talking about millions of people,
so maybe it was easier to I just would say,
generally speaking, if you're staying on the Strip, you're probably.

Speaker 4 (01:54:18):
A little older because you can afford the strip prices.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
M that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:54:22):
That that was my kind of connotation on that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
Okay, Like if you and I went to the Bellaggio,
we would not see we'd see more. We'd see more
twenty three year olds at Circa than we would see
at the Bellagio.

Speaker 8 (01:54:39):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:54:44):
If we took the people in front of the fountains,
which and went from one block each in front of
the fountain to the left of it, to the right
of it, and took their median age and put it
on free and then took it against a two block
stretch of the Fremont Street experience, I think would be.
I think it would be not significantly younger, but I
would say downtown younger.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
I would say Blijia would be younger. But I don't know,
but definitely I would say as far as the clubbing
and all that stuff, what the younger kids are doing,
that's one hundred percent way more on the strip. That
is what you're saying. There's there's not there's not a
lot of clubs in downtown.

Speaker 4 (01:55:18):
There's bars, but they're ain't clubs.

Speaker 3 (01:55:20):
Right, Carl's already telling me about who she's bringing for
her for twenty first. I'm like, girl, that's still four
years away, and like, I want to be a part
of that trip.

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
Well, you took your sons, No, that will you send
the wife and then the daughter.

Speaker 4 (01:55:39):
I think I will go and just go separately, say
in a different hotel.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
Okay, you'll stay downtown, that'll stay on the strip. That's
exactly right. I think you gotta go to the Strip
at least like once. But it's such a soulless Oh,
it's just it's worse and worse.

Speaker 4 (01:55:53):
Well, Vegas generally speaking a soulis.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (01:55:56):
And that's why I'm hoping the Rockets get to go
play in December, that the play into the knockout tournament again,
rather falty in season. That's why if I'm gonna spend
all my money and lose it on Black Chack, I'd
rather go to a city with Seul, I'd rather go.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
To New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (01:56:08):
M I'm telling you, if Phoenix is is sneaky good raha,
I'm just.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
Telling you, I'm not. Yeah, I'm not doubting you on that. Okay,
I guess, Uh, how far is it from the Grand Canyon? Oh?
I could combo that. I'm just saying, you can say
it with me. You're welcome to and I'm not flying
you out there for that. You're not.

Speaker 4 (01:56:29):
No, I've got you for the Western Finals.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
Oh, three hours of the Grand Canyon. That's not bad
at all, not bad.

Speaker 4 (01:56:34):
What ever, No, you can do that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
The Grand Canyon is too hot in the summer though.

Speaker 3 (01:56:39):
No, the NBA seasons in November, December, January. I mean,
when's that schedule release one month? By the way, the
the NHL has your schedule now is today. We play
about the same time of year they do, and their
schedule is already out.

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
How does that make you feel? Mad um desjointed? Hmm? Okay,
Wes is a The Google says September October best, So
hopefully it's early season against the Suns.

Speaker 3 (01:57:05):
By the way, Uh, not that we have a huge
Bradley Beal audience, But Bradley Beial signing a two year
deal today with the Los Angeles Clippers. Good for him,
eleven million dollar contract, you said, Bradley Beal.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
Bradley Beal, I thought he had a note they they
released him. It was a bio basically, that's crazy. Uh.
Kawhi Leonard Bradley Beal and James Harden.

Speaker 4 (01:57:34):
What could go wrong except chemistry?

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
Well, if itels like twenty twelve, they'd be pretty good.
Mm hmm that is true or twenty fifteen.

Speaker 4 (01:57:42):
Yeah, that's it all right.

Speaker 3 (01:57:44):
Seven one three two, one two five seven ninety seven
one three two, one two five seven nine zero.

Speaker 4 (01:57:51):
We have another hour left to go.

Speaker 3 (01:57:52):
Rossal is today's edition to Believe It or Not coming
up at about fifty minutes from now.

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
I don't know, would you Bradley Beal? Really?

Speaker 3 (01:57:59):
I mean you could give up with eight questions on
Bradley Beal? You could do that, Jim Jim wait, John Waite, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
That's close. No, really wasn't close at all. Actually no,
not all the names of the world. It was pretty close.
Not like I said, Mahatma Gandhi.

Speaker 3 (01:58:18):
Now, we could just play believe it or not and
just say believe it or not. I wonder if we
didn't get people to just do that without even having
the question. We did that one We did it one time. Yes,
I think we were punch drunk live on air. I
forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
Just John and he just said believe it and it
was either believe it or not. Yeah, he would say not,
and it was not. It was an embarrassing low point, Thomas.

Speaker 3 (01:58:46):
It was so funny because if people got it wrong,
they're like, what.

Speaker 13 (01:58:55):
That was?

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
Actually, that's if we scan. Did we actually scam people
during that or what?

Speaker 3 (01:59:00):
I don't remember. No, it was that was great. Actually
I'd be down to.

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
Do that again.

Speaker 3 (01:59:05):
No, we're not doing that one o'clock final hour, one
o three out of Sports Talk seven And we had
some great baseball conversation with fran Bulcasteva early in the show,
and if you missed that, we'll have a great portion.

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
At the bottom of the hour we believe it or not.
At one fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:59:24):
Tomorrow, I ross is tomorrow is tonight the slowest day
of the year in sports. I know the Espeys will
be on. I will be watching zero that I'm actually
commuting back to Houston. So there's no chance, no way,
no how I'm gonna even watch one minute of that.

Speaker 10 (01:59:38):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
I mean I have some interest. I think shing Gillis
is pretty hilarious, that I don't doubt.

Speaker 4 (01:59:44):
But the whole event itself, yeah, I just the sb's.

Speaker 3 (01:59:48):
Was cool for a while, but there'll be zero percent
chance to catch it and a lot of it's goes
I'm traveling, but I'm gonna get to the other issue.

Speaker 2 (01:59:54):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:59:55):
We're gonna put together a top ten list of the
ten from ten down to one. Who has to be
How are.

Speaker 4 (02:00:04):
We gonna phrase this? I want to make sure our
phrase is properly.

Speaker 3 (02:00:07):
We've got three seasons coming up the Astro second half.
We have the Texan season, we have the Rocket season,
and we have the Houston Cougar season football and basketball.
This is a Houston centric list and it's only athletes,
not coaches or general managers or owners or front office people.

(02:00:28):
We're gonna put together the MVP list of the ten
most important people in Houston for.

Speaker 2 (02:00:33):
The rest of the year.

Speaker 3 (02:00:37):
So tomorrow, Ross when you put together your list, because
you won't do it until probably nine to fifty nine
tomorrow morning.

Speaker 2 (02:00:41):
That's not true. Halready got a top six.

Speaker 3 (02:00:44):
The number one person in your list has to be
the most The person has to have the most important
season coming up for their respective team.

Speaker 2 (02:00:53):
Zach short number one.

Speaker 3 (02:00:54):
Let's go and we'll publish our list tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (02:00:56):
After we announce it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:57):
We'll do it probably like ten thirty tomorrow so and
then we'll public push it out there. So it's our
list of ten people, ten athletes that have to have
a really good year for their respective teams. But somebody's
got to have the best year. Who is that going
to be.

Speaker 2 (02:01:12):
We'll do our list tomorrow at ten thirty here on
the show.

Speaker 4 (02:01:18):
All Star Game.

Speaker 2 (02:01:19):
I think, look, if all the home run derby.

Speaker 3 (02:01:22):
Ratings were good from a five percent from last year,
I'm assuming that you'd see similar improvement over the game itself.

Speaker 4 (02:01:28):
Wouldn't it make sense?

Speaker 5 (02:01:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:01:29):
I get the game got close. People probably flipped it
back on and there was a swing off and you
added the abs, which I found interesting. I thought overall,
I was more invested in it than I thought I
would be.

Speaker 3 (02:01:40):
I was too, because again I just thought it would
be in the background television.

Speaker 2 (02:01:43):
But I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (02:01:44):
You know what got me was the Hank Aaron stuff
that was kind of superimpose.

Speaker 2 (02:01:48):
All that on the field.

Speaker 3 (02:01:49):
Again, Remember you're talking about video technology is unparalleled. That
beautiful building in Las Vegas, which I always mispronounced the
name of it, the Sphere, Fear the Sphere.

Speaker 2 (02:02:02):
Look at that hat. Thank you if you've so. They
basically use the same technology that the Sphere uses. Right
led lights and whatnot on.

Speaker 3 (02:02:12):
Yeah, sure, and they put the audio in there. It
was two and a half minutes. I've watched it probably
five times since it.

Speaker 4 (02:02:17):
Was originally brought up. Really, it's really awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:02:21):
And I got to interview Hank Aaron, not one on one,
but I was into a group setting.

Speaker 4 (02:02:25):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (02:02:26):
And it was probably a year or two before he passed.
And I'll say this, ross I was I'm not a
kid in the candy start. I was like in awe
of him and I never saw him play. I mean,
it was well before my time. But being friends with
mine for as long as I was, I obviously all
the great stories about Hank, and just to be around

(02:02:49):
him for a few minutes, it just it felt like
I was around royalty.

Speaker 2 (02:02:53):
Yeah you were.

Speaker 3 (02:02:55):
And I'll be honest with you, friends, I don't do
that a lot. I don't get, you know, fanboy on
many things in life, because I mean, we're in clubhouses
all the time. Look, I'm very blessed to be traveling
with an NBA team full of superstar millionaires and very
famous people. It kind of just it's common for me.

(02:03:18):
But there's a handful of times in my life that
I have fanboyd And when Hank Aaron was a guest
one year at the Astros Foundation dinner, which I was
invited to at the time, minute made park and I'm
sitting here with my phone just graving a couple of
sound bites of Hank Aaron talking about Mileo, who was
retiring that year. It was amazing because he was the

(02:03:42):
things he had to overcome, the blatant racism in our country,
the fact that he had death threats because he was
about to knock out the most valuable award for any
individual hitter in baseball, and how to stay in separate hotels,
and it was just, you know, and all the things
he did just in the civil rights movement and doing

(02:04:05):
this and doing it with just such little pomp and circumstance.
He's he may be one of the greatest people I've
ever been around.

Speaker 4 (02:04:13):
Not bat that I know, but just being in awe
of a sports athlete.

Speaker 3 (02:04:18):
I kind of would have felt that way if I'd
ever met Muhammad Ali. I would have probably felt that
way if I would have been able to Uh. I mean,
I'm trying to think of my short list of all time,
all moment athletes and it's not very long list because
Henry Donnelly did so much on the field, but he
did so much.

Speaker 4 (02:04:35):
Off as well.

Speaker 3 (02:04:36):
I just it was great, and I thought everything about
the ceremony yesterday was fantastic. And and look, MLB has its
its image of problems, and you know, and rot Manverid
gets crushed for a lot of things. But if he
had anything to do with it or his department, I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:04:52):
Obviously they did.

Speaker 3 (02:04:53):
They put on a masterpiece yesterday that was as classy
of a thing as they could possibly Plus the whole
thing about the cam thing they do dur in the
middle of the game too. They've done that for years
and years and years and it's still chokeship every single time.

Speaker 4 (02:05:04):
It just does.

Speaker 2 (02:05:06):
Yeah, it was. It was great.

Speaker 3 (02:05:08):
So as much as Major League Baseball gets crapped on
for a lot of things, and boy, they still have
their issues.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
M hmm. Rossie ballparks are still feel full.

Speaker 3 (02:05:17):
TV contracts are still being up for grabs. Uh revenues
are going up. The long lived, long forecastid.

Speaker 2 (02:05:26):
Demise of Major League Baseball continues to be just that
a myth. I think they've they've made great strides with
with the pitch clock and the extra man and trying much.

Speaker 3 (02:05:39):
It's for a younger generation, and that's what they were
worried about. It's for younger generation. They're chiming in a
little bit more. They're not saying I'm not saying every
twenty five year old is sitting down at a bar
watching the Astros or watching the game. But they're getting
a few more because they were deathly afraid that they
had lost a generation of fans.

Speaker 2 (02:05:57):
Because the phone does play a role in it.

Speaker 3 (02:06:01):
Kids' attention spans do get affected by different forms of
things to watch and see on TV and things on
her phone and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (02:06:12):
Yeah, I think the MLB app is good. I think
the coverage you're like, you're talking about their Twitter accounts,
social media. They do a good job of building and
marketing guys like for example, like the biggest star in
baseball is probably showing a Tony doesn't speak a lick
of ingis that's good marketing. And the biggest star in
your sport does not speak the native tongue of where
he is. He's being marketed well and showcased well.

Speaker 3 (02:06:35):
And you got your hottest picture in baseball going out
with one of the hottest women in sports. That helps
out too.

Speaker 2 (02:06:39):
It's marketing. Oh you're talking about Paul Skans.

Speaker 4 (02:06:44):
Yeah, it doesn't hurt, doesn't hurt.

Speaker 2 (02:06:49):
I was like und dating, I don't know. Oh who
is uh? Who is uh?

Speaker 4 (02:06:54):
Tark Schoople dating?

Speaker 8 (02:06:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:06:56):
It doesn't matter. They were never mind.

Speaker 3 (02:07:01):
Now here's the thing that major League Baseball can't get pasted.
And this is a criticism of previous commissioners and the
future whoever the commission will be. When when Rob Manford
decides to sit down, you've got ten dormant franchises still
to this day, ross.

Speaker 2 (02:07:18):
That are all very profitable. Yeah, that's that.

Speaker 4 (02:07:22):
Don't give a damn about winning.

Speaker 2 (02:07:23):
That's why I'm saying they don't. They probably don't see
it as a problem. No, they don't. Because what's good
for ratings? Is it good for ratings of the Pirates
invest in Karen spend money? Or is it good of
the Yankees and Dodgers do But.

Speaker 3 (02:07:35):
If I'm a fan of that team, I know I
can't be a fan of that team.

Speaker 2 (02:07:39):
That's why there's the Astros are there. Earlier this year,
and it was Paul Skeens versus was it Hunter Brown
or was it it was like some kind somebody had
a top heavy line up yond yeah, and it was
there was fifteen thousand people there. See.

Speaker 3 (02:07:53):
If I'm a Pirate fan and I live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
I'm not thinking about the go to the game.

Speaker 2 (02:07:57):
If I'm a Pirate fan. If I'm a Pirate.

Speaker 3 (02:07:59):
Fan, I want Paul Skins to have great players around
him that can actually score runs. The running joke last
night was it Paul Skeins had a six nothing lead
for himself and he's on. He can't get a victory
of that six runs ever in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (02:08:14):
Yeah, oh is mccolors and Skeins. Hey, hey, now they
Astros won the game. They did.

Speaker 3 (02:08:23):
You know what, road mcclors is much better than homma colors,
certainly when the Pirates bats in the lineup as well.

Speaker 2 (02:08:30):
Andrew McCutcheon is still here.

Speaker 3 (02:08:33):
Is that Willie starter coming from the past? Bill Madlock
playing third base?

Speaker 2 (02:08:42):
Go ahead? I don't know. Jason Kendall that can't cob
closing out the games. I'll go with Jason Kendall.

Speaker 3 (02:08:50):
M hmm, all right, one thirteen, I have your Sports
Talk seven at eight.

Speaker 2 (02:09:00):
There's more, John Waite, why don't we lose so many?
The heck is this? Donalds?

Speaker 9 (02:09:08):
Start uh advertising our prize?

Speaker 2 (02:09:11):
This Paul Young every time you go away?

Speaker 3 (02:09:14):
Oh there we go. All right, tomorrow we're gonna give
out a password from Believing It or Not? What is
believe it or not?

Speaker 2 (02:09:28):
Topic? How about Hank Aaron? Wait? Sound good?

Speaker 4 (02:09:31):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (02:09:32):
Oh this is not bad?

Speaker 4 (02:09:35):
You would go see this at Cynthia Woods.

Speaker 2 (02:09:37):
Come on? No, maybe in November when it's like seventy
two degrees, but.

Speaker 3 (02:09:42):
Manchin if when Winning Chunk comes on.

Speaker 4 (02:09:45):
We're all dancing.

Speaker 2 (02:09:46):
I'm going to the bathroom and I'm getting another drink.
That's when you that's when you start leaning over for
a kiss from your lady on the lawn.

Speaker 4 (02:10:00):
What is the lawn you speak of?

Speaker 2 (02:10:02):
Yeah, see, you're fancy, Matt. You've never been on the
lawn because you're you're not salt of the earth, Matt.
You're you're not down to earth with the people out
in the lawn having a good time, making moves on
your lady and uh getting secondhand marijuana smoke clouds. So
you'd rather me do that than sit in a section
with chair back seats, yes, cover and a fan. There's

(02:10:27):
no weather's a fan on you. There's big fans of time.
It's breezy out there on the lawn. You make your
own breeze. Yeah, that's because you're eating strange foods before
the event. Yeah, watch out for that brownie. Lawn's good.

Speaker 3 (02:10:41):
You get to lay down, it's comfy, hang out with
the people. But are you Aren't you so far away
you can't see the accident. It's not that bad.

Speaker 2 (02:10:52):
All right.

Speaker 3 (02:10:52):
Here's what I'm gonna do between nine. I don't care
what month are we in here, July? Give me twelve
calendar months. I'll sitting along with.

Speaker 2 (02:10:58):
You for something that's not a concerned of mine. But
you're just missing out, all right. Uh, we got the
interview with Brian Bogusova coming up in a few minutes.

Speaker 3 (02:11:08):
Let's talk to Brandon. Apparently he is inside dike In
Park right now. I don't know what he's inside of there. Well,
it says he's at Mini Made Park, which is old.
So that's yeah, you know what. I think we got
to update these. I think I've been meaning to talk
about this, but I'll just say it on air. I
think we didn't talk to the producer about just confirming. Hey,
are you calling from wherever.

Speaker 4 (02:11:29):
Yeah, you don't want to say Jersey Village, but you couldn't.

Speaker 2 (02:11:33):
Because we always get people calling in, like, yeah, I
was in San Antonio one time six months ago and
now it still says that on the phones.

Speaker 3 (02:11:39):
All right, let's try it. Hi, Brandon, You're on seven
ninety calling. Are some somewhere in Houston, Texas?

Speaker 2 (02:11:43):
Hello, Brandon.

Speaker 5 (02:11:46):
Madam actually in Beaumont, not inside Diking.

Speaker 2 (02:11:49):
See what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:11:51):
Sorry to buzz your bubble on that too. Yeah, I
hope you guys are having a great week so far.
I love the show Man listen every day you guys.
Thank you afternoon entertainment of it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:00):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:12:00):
Hey, you just want to get thoughts on, you know
as we get to the second half. Of course, you
know it's a critical three game series with Seattle out
of the break, no doubt you don't want to just
let them back in with that five game leave. But
I know that kind of some movement happened today. I
saw Adam Frazier get moved to the Royals. Looking at
that too on some of the rumors out there, and
I kind of saw something. I know there's gonna be
a lot of reports this time of year, people are
just you know, guessing and kind of putting things out there,

(02:12:21):
starting pitching. Obviously they got to look at what about
maybe a reunion with Uncle Charlie, Charlie Morton coming back,
and maybe you have to give up too much because
I know the farmcist have missed in. I know Seth
Lugo would kind of cost a little bit more with
the royals, and then what what bat do you think, Matt,
as far as looking at those left handed hitters that
they so craved there too, and kind of the status

(02:12:42):
of your don maybe coming back or being prolonged or
something like that. I feel like we got to make
some moves, Matt, and I want to get your take
on that too as well. Man, appreciate the time, Thanks
so much.

Speaker 3 (02:12:49):
We'll see you guys. I'm Rossie. I don't want Cedric Mullins.
I'm sure he's wonderful. I'm sure he can patrol.

Speaker 8 (02:12:56):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:12:56):
The reason why Cedric Mullins may be a mixes if
Jake Myers had gone for a while, which you know
that could be a possibility, a possibility.

Speaker 2 (02:13:03):
God, I even saying that, let me give you.

Speaker 3 (02:13:07):
Let me go back to what the callers said, about
Charlie Morton. That would be an astroesque type move in
twenty twenty five. And I'm not saying he's the guy
that we should be thinking about.

Speaker 2 (02:13:20):
Got a guy in his forties, what kind of he
was having an okay season last night?

Speaker 3 (02:13:23):
Liked that I'm saying, But I'm saying, just an okay,
gritty been there, blah blah blah kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (02:13:29):
I mean, yeah, how much better is he going to
be from than than Ryan Gusto and Colton Gordon. He's
got an era of five eighten.

Speaker 3 (02:13:35):
Come on, he's got an aria of five eighteen. Ryan
Gusso can give you a better nip. I think he's
around Leshon fors.

Speaker 2 (02:13:47):
Charlie, Charnie Warton comes here. I would, I would, I
would be curious. He's had a whip at one point five,
he's forty one years old and an e are of
five eighteen. I'm good, okay, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:14:05):
I don't I don't even want to have this conversation
about grabbing people because I think every time we bring
up a name, it's going to be, well, that's too
much money, or that's too much of a you have
to give up too much of a talent, or the
contract's bad, or you have minor league you don't have
enough minor league prospects.

Speaker 4 (02:14:23):
I mean, Ryan O.

Speaker 3 (02:14:24):
Hearns's name has been brought up a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:14:31):
People mentioning Josh Naylor a Henny a Thwadeth, even though
he's not a left handed hitter, he's right handed, he's righty.
I mean, I heard.

Speaker 3 (02:14:41):
Makes sense you could put him in the outfield. I mean,
you wouldn't play first base, so you can put him
in the outfield.

Speaker 2 (02:14:46):
Yeah, but you got to figure something out a second base.
What's the latest on Brendan Rodgers falling off a cliff?

Speaker 3 (02:14:53):
Okay, look, Brendan's a nice guy, but are you really
worried about whether or not Brendan Rodgers can can help
this team?

Speaker 2 (02:15:02):
Just as a warm body.

Speaker 3 (02:15:04):
It would be a warm body, be a cold bat,
but a warm body.

Speaker 2 (02:15:08):
That's pretty funny. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:15:13):
I'm just gonna say to the previous caller.

Speaker 2 (02:15:15):
Whust In Beaumont, and yes and that MMP.

Speaker 4 (02:15:19):
Yeah, I wouldn't expect much.

Speaker 2 (02:15:25):
I have a question We've always got.

Speaker 3 (02:15:27):
Unless this unless Russ and I'm sorry to interrupt you,
but unless Dan is really believing what the doctors are
saying with these all these guys are gonna come back
quote unquote sooner rather than later.

Speaker 2 (02:15:39):
That's kinda been you might not have any more choice,
other choice, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you're already holding
the glue with these guys pitching that. I think what
the problem has been, Well, I mean you're not holding
the glue. It's kind of the the blue is getting
a little loose, all right.

Speaker 3 (02:15:54):
What was your question?

Speaker 2 (02:15:55):
More elmers than gorilla? Ah? What was I gonna say? Oh?
Do you think you can always It feels like you
can always always, always use leverage arms, we've said, but
is this bullpen good enough for easy? Do you think
that would ever be a possibility one more leverage arm
if it would Brian King get you back something in
a return They No, no, no, no, I'm saying acquiring a

(02:16:17):
leverage arm because I mean it has been Brian King
and Okert and the Seises of the World have been
pretty good. But you know what you're talking about, how
like Jake Myers and those other guys aggress Yeah, exactly.
I think relievers naturally regret exactly. So would you want
to go with a guy to where you could be
well what you would thought you had in theory with
Presley a bray you hater to and also that being

(02:16:39):
a possible band aid solution to if you are not
able to acquire a starter, Well, if you get a
high leverage reliever, then we're just needing these other guys
to get us to the fifth sixth inning, and then
we're gravy in a playoff scenario.

Speaker 3 (02:16:53):
I don't again, I'm sure others have done it. I
would not put that into play for the Astros. I
don't think you want to go with bullpen by committee.
You can do it for one game, but to try
to win one series would be difficult. To win two
series would be just about impossible.

Speaker 2 (02:17:09):
Well, man, you want to you you want a new car,
but you can only afford an electric bike. Can I
uber instead? That's gonna be more expensive day by day? Mmm? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:17:23):
Public transportation can work too.

Speaker 2 (02:17:25):
Exactly here. You gotta you gotta get your bus passed
because the Astros aren't of Ford and Bentley's at the deadline.
But can I get a a civic You got a
lot of civics on the lot. You gotta if you've
got a civics in the garage. It's got a lot
of miles on them. Can I got a sportage cost?

(02:17:49):
You're saying no, you're saying go deep into the savings saving.
The savings account is low. The savings account is twenty
ninth in baseball.

Speaker 3 (02:17:56):
All right, Brian Bogas his thoughts. This, this car talk
is depressing me. So you're telling me got a bunch
of geloppies, is what you're trying to say?

Speaker 2 (02:18:08):
Dude, kidding? You know what geloppies are? Have you heard
the word geloppe?

Speaker 8 (02:18:13):
I was.

Speaker 2 (02:18:14):
I have never heard like a lemon that's pretty, that's
not terrible.

Speaker 8 (02:18:21):
Day.

Speaker 2 (02:18:21):
I would say, lemon doesn't run. Gelope gets you a
to B, but you know you might have to be
taken a girl on. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:18:28):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:18:28):
I did have a giloppe in college. Accident, had work.

Speaker 3 (02:18:31):
You're gonna be asking to borrow mom and dad's car
because you can't. You can't take a gelope on a date.
I can just tell you that right now. I had
a Cutla Scapri back in nineteen ninety. Oh good god,
what a mess that was.

Speaker 2 (02:18:44):
My first car was a nineteen ninety three Honda Accord.
That bad boy ran in three hundred thousand.

Speaker 3 (02:18:51):
Oh my god, you're such a bragger about that. Let's
stay here from Brian Bogus seven. Next start timing so
one thirty with a word for uptown appliants, repair give
it out with Brian Bogus. Sevic is always most of
must listen to Radio joint Is every Wednesday at eleven o'clock.
We like to play some of that here in this segment,
and in fact we got the conversation started with Bogey

(02:19:11):
earlier today about his thoughts about overall the events that
were the Midsummer Classic.

Speaker 8 (02:19:16):
I'm kind of in the middle about everything. I I,
you know, enjoy the celebration of the game part of it.
I enjoy kind of the celebration of also the individuals
and letting guys kind of get outside of the team
aspect a little bit and see some personalities. At the
same time, I'm, you know, after close to one hundred

(02:19:39):
games of real baseball and exhibition game, I'm kind of
man about I do like the idea of trying out
some different things and having the game be a little
bit different than just your average regular season game and
putting in some some you know, different tweaks or ideas
that we'll maybe see in the future. But other than that,
for me, it's not necessarily about the game. It's just

(02:20:02):
about the weekend and the events and the people, and
you know that's that to me is the.

Speaker 2 (02:20:07):
Fun part, all right.

Speaker 3 (02:20:08):
A couple of real quick things. Automatic ball Strike Challenge system,
would you think?

Speaker 8 (02:20:15):
I like it. I liked it in spring training. I
like it. I like where they're going with it. I
think they've done a really nice job. You know, they've
they've used it for so long and in so many
games in the minor league that I think they've got
a really good feel for how to use it quickly
and efficiently. I like the added drama of showing it
up on the big board in real time and kind
of giving the crowd something to get into. I think

(02:20:37):
it's a great idea. I was a big proponent of,
if we got it, let's just use it for every pitch.
But I do like the way they're trying to use it,
you know, just more, you know, important situation type of way.

Speaker 3 (02:20:51):
Bogie we had bregnant with us a couple of years
ago when he was still with the team in spring training,
and we thought he would universally, like every player would
love it. The consensus was we couldn't find enough people
that are active players that love every pitch being determined
ball strike via the computer. Why do you think so

(02:21:12):
many players are against it?

Speaker 8 (02:21:16):
They're just naturally resistant to change. First of all, I mean,
when you've when you've spent the amount of time preparing
and training to play a certain way, the idea that
things are going to be changed and there's going to
be some unknown is a little bit unnerving U But
they also assimilate to everything really quickly and very smoothly.

(02:21:36):
I think also there is you know, the the human
element in the gamesmanship is something that you can appreciate
while you're in the game. You know, from the outside
looking in, it's very black and white, it's like it's
the ball. We wanted a ball. It's to strike, we
want to strike. But the idea of you know, watching
a Zach Grink hit the outside corner over and over
and then start going an inch or two off and

(02:21:58):
walking the umpire off played as well as the hitters.
You know, that appreciation of skill is something that could
be lost if we're just using a computer and it's
black and white. So I think it's two things. I
think it's just natural or resistant to change, and them
not wanting to lose an element of true greatness, not

(02:22:18):
being able to exploit human error.

Speaker 3 (02:22:22):
I guess yeah, it makes some sense. Let me also
ask you this and we'll get ross. Got a couple
questions in after me. One of the things I brought
up about the ABS is what are managers going to
tell their players? When and if? Do you use it
in the right situations? Do you potentially squawking something in
the third inning knowing if you lose it you might

(02:22:42):
not get it? You know, got one challenge left if
this comes into play. My question to you is, if
you were a manager, what would you tell your twenty
six man roster about how and when and what seems
appropriate to use those abs? Is because if you lose
the two challenges, you're done. You may want them in
the ninth thinning of a very close.

Speaker 2 (02:23:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:23:01):
I think first and foremost you you express uh the
idea that it is for important situations, right, It's something
that flipping inning, flip a game, flipping that that and
preferably later high leverage type of situations. Stepping said, I mean,
there are so many guts, you know, if east ot
parades is one hundred percent sure that a ball got

(02:23:24):
called to strike, I'd be okay with him challenging. You know,
it's kind of got to be a little bit of
self recognition. Also. I think I think some of that
some of the teams in the way they were using
in spring training. It was a good idea where from
the pitching side, they put it on the catchers to
be the ones making the challenges and not the pitchers
trying to take a little bit of the emotion and
adrenaline out of it. And uh, you know, I think

(02:23:47):
it's going to be kind of case by case basis.
But you know, even in they had meetings with teams,
uh in spring training just going over this, and everybody
is on the same page that the way that it's
being implemented and most likely will be implemented is to
not try to change in pitch in the first inning.
It's to try to get you know, a big pitch

(02:24:07):
right in the seventh or eighth inning in a one
run game. And if everybody kind of understands that, I
think guys will be fine just letting it back to
play out the way they do in your kind of
running the middle type of situations. You know, for the
for the most part, everybody understands that maybe there's a
couple of guys you got to pull aside and have
a conversation with him, like, hey, you do not have

(02:24:29):
the green light to call. I mean, you got to
shut guys down on the base pass every once in
a while, you can shut them down on challenging stuff too.

Speaker 3 (02:24:35):
That'd be a fun conversation to have. Brian Bugus seven
with us here on to Sports Talk seven. Ay transitioning
a bit to the team in this and the second
half coming up.

Speaker 2 (02:24:43):
Let's start with Hunter Brown. Last couple of starts not
the way that he wanted them to go. What do
you think as far as what's happening with him? Is
there just some fatigue? Is it just a couple of
bad starts and that's it? And also kind of.

Speaker 3 (02:24:56):
A gut feeling from you do you do you think
with him pitching on, do you think he'll get a
couple of extra days off for the weekend or where
do you think Joe Spot is gonna throw them?

Speaker 2 (02:25:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (02:25:07):
So I think coming out of the gate, my guess
is you see both Fromber and Hunter in the Seattle series,
because you need that, and I think it'll be Fromber
first and then Hunter in either game two or Game three.
I think, you know, Fromber will be on an extra
day rest going Friday. You don't want him on too

(02:25:28):
much rest. And Hunter looks like he can use an
extra day or even two. So as long as you
get him in that series, I would be fine with
him throwing Sunday. I actually liked the idea of them
being split up and you know, having the ability to
stagger them if you need to push somebody to eat
up innings because there's a short start somewhere. But in
terms of his last couple starts, you know, it all

(02:25:51):
kind of started in the Colorado start. For me, the
stuff just wasn't moving the same. I kind of attributed
it to altitude. You know, the sinker doesn't always think
the same breaking balls don't have the same bite. But
then we kind of saw some of that stuff carry
over into Cleveland and then Texas. I think it might
be a little bit of fatigue. And you know, I'm
not talking about fatigue. Oh my gosh, he's dying out there,

(02:26:12):
his arms hanging. I mean, the velocity is still there,
the spin rates are still there, and everything looks good.
It's just every once in a while. Every once in
a while, there'll be a fastball that'll kind of get
on the side of instead of finished through it and
have that hop at the top of his zone. There
have been a couple of hits on changeups where they've
kind of cut back into the middle of the plate
instead of getting him getting on top of it and

(02:26:34):
kind of pronating and getting that drop and sink. And
that's just you know, a little bit of release points stuff.
And if you start getting a little tired, your body
starts getting a little tired, things go out of sink
and it shows up at release point and it's just
little bits where you know he was he was. There
were times when he'd go out there and throw a
hundred pitches and perfectly execute all hundred pitches. You know,

(02:26:56):
everything came out of his hand exactly how he wanted it.
You know, you get a little bit of fatigue and
all a sudden, a couple of mistakes show up in
the middle of the zone and they get hit. To
be expected, he's one hundred and fifteen innings already. He's
gone deep into almost every start that he's pitched. I
think you know, the All Star breaking, maybe an extra
day on the backside will be good for him, And
I think there's no reason that he's not going to

(02:27:18):
be fine coming out of it.

Speaker 2 (02:27:20):
All right, And on the hitting side, it feels like,
again we ask every week about Christian Walker, how beneficial
you think a couple of days to clear the head
for him and kind of finding where he's at to
where I mean, we are this deep into the season
and he's just still has not fully busted out of
the funk. And when it kind of looked like he
was unfortunately, although I'm saying, you know, in the grand

(02:27:41):
scheme of things in life, he doesn't think it's unfortunate,
but he had to go on to the paternity list.
Then he came back and didn't have a good series
against Texas.

Speaker 8 (02:27:50):
Yeah, it was unfortunate that the timing of it, you know,
because he was really heating up. But at the same time,
you know, he goes into the break having four days
to kind of sit on what he's done in the past,
you know, a couple of weeks, which I'm sure a
lot of that will just be baby time, not going
to think about hitting all that much, but you know,
to have a little bit of positive momentum with how

(02:28:11):
that last road trip went. You know, when you think
about a guy who goes into a prolonged slump, you
think there there there should be some you know, equally
high high coming off of it, and that's how it's
going to balance out. You know, maybe we're not going
to see that. Maybe we're not going to see you know,
a month where he hits over four hundred and hits

(02:28:31):
twelve home runs. But you know, maybe we're just going
to see the guy, a guy who's putting up the
numbers that we thought he was going to put up,
just you know, minus the first six weeks of the
season or whatever whatever, And maybe it doesn't all the
way balance out. But you know, if you look at
his body of work over you know, prolonged period of
that batch, it's not all of that's far off. And

(02:28:51):
I know we haven't had that huge swing back to
correct it and level everything out for the whole, but
it's been overall not that far off of what we expected.
So I think the biggest thing for him is now
getting pitches into locations that he wants.

Speaker 3 (02:29:08):
You know, all right, we need those pitches where he
wants them. Hit them hard and do it for more
than three games in a series. In our week, That
again was Brian bogus Efic with us every Thursday here
on Sports Talk seven ninety. Hey, we're gonna play Believe
It or Not next, and the category today is at
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Speaker 2 (02:29:28):
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That's true.

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Hit the dramatic home run in the swing off. We'll
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Speaker 2 (02:30:17):
All Star Game, for his winning home run in the
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Speaker 3 (02:30:23):
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Believe it or not. It's when your prize. What you're
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Let's go Rogers speaking of a prize, hoarps on SEVENINTI. Roger,
you're ready to play, Believe it or not. Kyle Schwarber
was drafted second overall by the Cubs in twenty fourteen
and did not sign until the Cubs up their off
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(02:31:17):
he's signed right away. He's very happy.

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Speaker 2 (02:31:49):
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Speaker 3 (02:31:53):
Brandon, what was your favorite part of today's ten to
two radio show?

Speaker 5 (02:31:57):
Super Man bit.

Speaker 3 (02:32:01):
Coming out of college, draft scouts compared Kyle Schwarber's swing
mechanics to those of Jeff Bagwell.

Speaker 2 (02:32:07):
Believe it or not, believe it, believe it? That is correct?
Statement number two for the win.

Speaker 3 (02:32:13):
In high school, Kyle Schwarber was also a standout football player,
earning All Ohio honors at linebacker his senior year.

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Speaker 3 (02:32:46):
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an oblique injury.

Speaker 2 (02:32:54):
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I'm sorry, Bross talking to anam plan. What do you want?

Speaker 4 (02:33:06):
How's your family? O?

Speaker 2 (02:33:07):
They're great? How's life fantastic?

Speaker 4 (02:33:11):
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Speaker 2 (02:33:12):
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Speaker 4 (02:33:27):
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Speaker 2 (02:33:29):
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right there, new phone? Who is.

Speaker 3 (02:33:38):
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Mobile Baseball game MLB Perfect Game twenty four Believe it
or not, No, that is correct, staying number two for
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the Phillies farm system as an outfielder.

Speaker 2 (02:33:55):
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Speaker 4 (02:33:58):
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Speaker 2 (02:34:01):
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Speaker 2 (02:34:17):
It's Baitity. Talk to you tomorrow at ten right here
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