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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Our next guest was an earlier guest on Sports Talk
seven Aunty during the day of Matthews Morning Get Together.
In fact that Jeremy is invoiced. iHeart for Jeremy to
make multiple appearances on our show each to the next
handful of days. Jeremy White WGR Radio. Jeremy, thanks for
joining seven Onty for the second time today. Good afternoon
to you, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Great to be a part of the family.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Well, you'll get nothing in like it, and we're asking
you more or more hours and no, forget it.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I'm not gonna give you that. Hey, let me ask you.
Are you from Buffalo? Where are you originally from.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Mask, Syracuse? Two hours outside of Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Okay, so you grew up a Bills fan, I'm assuming,
or at least like somebody that watched the Bills as
a young child.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I grew up a New York Giants fan.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Which is one of the awkward things about being a
Bills fan and covering the Bills now, is that the
most horrible moment in Bill's franchise history was losing to
the Giants that I was twelve, and because I loved
the Giants. So the reason why I asked to come
pleading with Bills fans about that.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I understand the reason why I'm asking us because I
want you to give We were talking about this yesterday
on the show before we get to the game itself.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
We believe the three most rabbid.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Fan bases in the NFL, not that there are not
twenty of them, but the three most rabbid Green Bay, Pittsburgh,
and Buffalo. So I want you to explain to our
audience in Houston. We've got Cowboy fans here, We've got
Texans fans here, we have Saints fans here, We've got
fans of everybody. What separates the Buffalo Bill Bill's mafia
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as compared to say, the rest of the NFL fan base.
And please feel free to embellish.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Sure, Sure, there's a lot of factors. I think you've
got in the present day. What you have is a
team that is good and a fan base that waited
almost twenty years to be good. The seventeen year playoffs
route that was from nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
To twenty seventeen.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Like that was, we were an NFL team and we
were threatened by the idea that the team would move
because the owner was not you know, I didn't have
a succession plan in play. So basically have a fan
base that was built nervous and bad. That's this generation.
And now they're very solidly here and we get a
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brand new stadium next year, and the quarterback is the
best in football or one of the best in football,
and they win the division all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So you have a fan base that is basically.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Reached into every walk of life, every age, every kind
of person.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
The town shuts down.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Every player of the place here says it's like a
college atmosphere, and I think that's probably right. The tailgating
is amazing. It's just a stadium out in the middle
of a bunch of parking lots. Everybody has their traditions.
I like to say that basically every single game day
is like Thanksgiving for me because my entire family is there.
Everybody's at the game. Who's gonna watch the kids? I
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don't know, because everybody's at the game. Wow, So the
town shuts down, Yeah, Like it's it's absolutely a way
of life.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I don't know people that don't watch the Bills.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I don't know a single person that doesn't have at least,
you know, even if it's just three hours on Sunday,
never mind fully invested in draft picks and trades and
this and that. So it's a one hundred percent away
of life.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
That's like this generation and before that, like you know.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It's it's it's the game in town. It's the Bills.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
We have a hockey team too, it's a very big
hockey town, but they're also terrible and stuck in their
own drought. So everybody's just really looking at the Bills
to finally deliver a super Bowl. You finally have this
generation able to bond with their parents' generation which went
up for super Bowls and understand what that's like. So
now everybody wants it and it's very close by. So yeah,
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it's twenty four hours a day each sleep Bills.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
All right, last question before we get to the game itself.
The new stadium has is open air. It sounds like
to me that the dome wasn't even considered. Is that
accurate or was there consideration of putting a roof on it?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I think there was consideration. My biggest thing on that
I switched. I used to think that we should build
a dome out this way, and you know, let's center
the twenty first century.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
But then I changed my mind.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
When the Bills beat the Patriots forty seven to seventeen
in the playoffs a.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Couple of years ago, and it was negative eight.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I slowly began to realize that half the reason we
remember those games and have an identity at.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
All is because they're outside. So, yeah, I flipped.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Wasn't considered. Sure, they did studies and all that. My
biggest thing on the Dome was it was going to
cost twice as much. And I think the state and
the county and the owner wanted to get something done.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Get in.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Let's let's get something that won't be the biggest problem.
And they got a closed stadium.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
It's fully enclosed. There's a hole in the roof.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
There's a canopy over sixty five percent of the seats,
so lots of people will be covered. The field won't
be the concourses will be warmed and heated, and bak,
it's gonna be a fully enclosed stadium that is susceptible
to the elements. But it's just gonna be such a
different experience than the current stadium, which is wide open.
The concourses are freezing. I feel like people are gonna
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think they're in a dome even though it's not.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So. I'm quite happy that we will remain open air.
It's Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
It's supposed to be playing fooball supposed to be played outside.
We've got our share of people that wish it was closed,
but I don't have time for them.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I'm not listening to that.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
White soft right, Cleveland's going to a dome.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Absolute mistake. What a disaster. Say something. We've got these
teams in the Northeast to live like this. We're supposed
to live like this.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I'm in Cleveland right now. I'm gonna be all for
the dome stadium. That's just me.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
We know what we're soft in Texas. I'm just gonna
be flat out honest with you. Jeremy White joining us
wg R Radio in Buffalo. All right, you went on
Dan's show this morning and said that you fully expect
a Texans running back to rush for one hundred yards.
I know why you said it, but are you Do
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you really believe that is the Bills run defense that atrocious?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's really bad.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Now, I don't know, I don't know if I word
for word he'll run for one hundred. I said, what's
his career high. I wouldn't put it past him to
get it. Now, the game script's gonna.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Have to be that way.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
But if you get that, whoever you get twenty carries,
I mean you'll get your you'll make money. Run on
the ball against this Bill's defense. If you don't, then
you really do have problems running the football.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
The Bucks are.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Down to their third string pack. Last week, he runs
for two hundred yards. Right, it doesn't matter who goes in,
it's Derek Henry, He's gonna rip off some yards.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It's going to be the.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Saints ran, Devin h Hn ran, everybody, Jean Robinson ran
on this team. Everybody runs on the Bills. The problem is,
I think when you're playing the Bills is that this
is my opinion here, they do want you to run.
They invite you to run. Their entire defensive philosophy, the
entire Sean McDermott era has been we're going to stop
the pass and we're going to invite the run. Sometimes
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that means they get run on. This year, I think
it means they get run on even more because they
just don't really have the bodies. They're missing important pieces.
They're young draft picks. Some of them are ready to play,
some of them are not.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Quite ready to play.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
So it's a work in progress kind of overhauling this
defense from a veteran Leaden group from a couple of.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Years back to what they are now.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
So, yeah, most teams can run on them, and if
you want to try and run the ball, this is
as good a team to try it against as any.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
All Right, there have been storylines about this game, and
one of them is that Josh Allen is not like
playing the Texans. Has that been much of a storyline
up there as the Bills? It feels like to me
and correct me if I'm wrong, are they Jackal and
Hyde in Orchard Park? They're amazing and they're very mid
outside of upstate New York.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I don't think that's the case this year.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
That's not really been the case in the Josh Allen era.
They do have a couple of losses on the road
this year to Miami and Atlanta. They've had some offensive
identity issues. That's really what it's come down to, that
trying to figure out what they want to be. They
are a very good run team and sometimes they stick
with that too much or sometimes they're too predictable. They
were heading into last week, they were the number one
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team running on first down, and you know, plenty of
people around here think your quarterback is amazing. Why on
earth would whoever be the run heaviest team on first down?
Why would you ever lean into the run instead of
the past. And the reason is they're good at it
and they want to be you know, they want to
keep Josh from doing Josh things. Josh Allen is the
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roller coaster ride. You and Houston have seen it. The
playoff game from twenty nineteen, that was the full young
Josh Allen experience doing crazy stuff. He caught a touchdown pass,
he threw a bomb to a fullback who was double covered.
He lateraled the ball. I mean he at his best
now is a better version of that. He'll truck a linebacker,
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he'll jump over a defensive back. He will throw on
the run, he will catch touchdowns. He is a one
man show. He's incredible, and I think the Bills feel
a little bit of a desire to rain him in
from time to time.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
The problem is up here. The belief is that this season.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
They got way too far on raining him in, way
too much. It should not be a run first team.
It should not go as James Cook goes. So last
week they kind of overhauled their receiving corps after the
deadline as best they could. They got Josh Palmer back healthy.
They dressed Gabriel Davis, who had been on the practice
squad nursing an injury. They benched Kean Coleman for what
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they said was a disciplinary issue, which is a separate thing,
but they could have done that for performance, and we
all would have said that makes sense. So they looked different,
they played different, and they got their best.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Offensive out again the season.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
And now we're kind of waiting to see with this
big test with the Texans and then how good that
defense is if in fact, that offense the way they
played against the Bucks can can sling it against the Texans,
can sling it against some of the best defenses in football,
because the Bucks came into the pretty good defense and
didn't have any answers.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, what was it forty four points? Were you stunned
by the amount of points that were scored on both
sides of the football last Sunday when the Bills beat
the Buccaneers.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I was not that stunned.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
The biggest surprise to me was that it was a
very windy day and during the pregame to win is howling.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So you would have thought, all right.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
This is to be the kind of game we've seen
these in Buffalo where nobody's gonna be able to throw
the ball. And sure enough, they could both throw the ball,
they could throw the ball deep, they could throw it
anywhere they wanted to do. So. You know, Baker and Josh,
I think also have a bit of a friendly rivalry
between the two of them. They play golf together. They
joked about each other in the press conference leading up
to it. I kind of think they might have brought
out the best in each other in that day and
that game as well, because they've both played really well.
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And I was only surprised on the points based on
the weather.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
All right, So anybody that follows the Buffalo Bills, or
at least from a fantasy perspective, knows, and we're in
raptings up here with just a second with Jeremy White
from WGR Radio in Buffalo. Look, Cook is no surprise
to anybody their owns fantasy, But for the average NFL
running back, he doesn't come top of mind, Can he
buy himself if Josh has an abnormal game, which he's
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not had great games against Texans, can James Cook by
himself beat the Houston Texans.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Maybe I mean Cook is they just signed to a
contract extension and he's the first running back that the
Bills decided to really pony up the money for. And
the thing I was pointing to when they were thinking,
when we were talking about should they do it or not,
is that for the last two seasons, James Cook has
been a top ten running back in yards over expected
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if you use like next gen stats like breaking tackles,
like making more from what he gets than anybody else.
Top ten the last two seasons. This year's number two.
He's behind only Jonathan Taylor. Like you look at the
top running backs in the league and yards over expected
per attempt, it is Taylor, James Cook, Rico Dowdle's up there,
Javonte Williams. He'd had a really good season last year,
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and you could separate it out from how good the
Bills offensive line is, which is very good. And the
other thing the Bills did last year they dressed a
lot of sixth offensive lineman names Alec Anderson instead of
dressing him all the time. Now they drafted a fifth
round tight end whose name is Jackson Hawes, who they
billed as the best blocking tight end they have ever seen.
And they throw him out there and he blocks everyone's
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face off. So the Bills do have the ability to
kind of play bully ball and go with James Cook
if you can shut it down. Of course, the belief
is Josh Allen can do enough. But if the passing
game's not there, they have a kind of a pitch
that they didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Have in Allen's first two three four years.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
So Ken Cook whined himself, if they just kind of
grind it on the ground, I want to say, yes,
he's very good. Then their line is very good. And
they got people that block their receivers on the team.
That side ends on this team, like everybody buys into
the run game when it has to go that direction.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
If you ever make it to Houston, Jeremy, we owe
you a meal. Because you've been on two times in
one day.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
We thank you very much for joining us here on
Sports Talk seven ninety and stay warm.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Have you got any lake effects?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
No yet, not yet. We got a dusting a couple
of days ago.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I'm told that just after Thanksgiving it'll start to turn,
so we'll be ready for it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Thank you Jeremy for the time. Is always really really
appreciate it anytime.