February 7, 2025 • 15 mins
Talking about experiences and taking a trip down memory lane, another special guest joins the guys this morning talking a bit of Super Bowl LIX. Former NFL offensive linemen Mark Schlereth joins the show in talks of some of his experiences going into Super Bowl weekend alongside playing and winning three of them himself. Providing a different point-of-view when talking game plans and coaching regimens as we get ready to kick into Super Bowl LIX, Mark takes a moment with Sean and Brian discussing what he'll be looking for in regards to Sunday's showdown along with who he thinks may walk way the victor after this years Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We're there for the Sewn Salisbury Show continued. Now we're
gonna welcome in three times Super Bowl champion co host
of breakfast Ball on FS one, Mark Slareth Yeah, and
also does his at the Fan in Denver, does his
morning award winning radio show in Denver. Fits it all in.
(00:21):
Longtime partner of mine at ESPN on television. One of
my favorite people and best friends on the planet, Mark
Slaire does join us.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Grateful to have you man as always, and one of
my favorite things is on your one of my favorite follows.
As you know, I always love the rings on your
finger with some guys when you put them on. All
those eighteen crooked figures you got that are right right
angle here. This one's too big, this one's too and
when they say something, you just put that in there
(00:49):
and you got the suit and the figures are led up.
Every time I see it, I can't help but cry
about it because I ain't got one. So I'm living
vicariously through you. Brother.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Appreciate that. Always good to hear your voice, my friend.
I love you. Always good to connect and yeah, you
know what I always say, Twitter is like to me,
that whole social media thing is like an extension of
locker room and don't walk in there. It's you know,
being in a locker room. It's killer, be killed. You
better have your a game at all times. And I'm like,
if you're gonna come at me, man, come get a taste,
(01:20):
because I'll just get it right back to you. And
so I I enjoy it. Boy. I don't know, man,
I've like recently, I don't know that I've found a
softer fan base in the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I mean, you are you are killing them.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Come on, you guys have won three Super Bowls, You've
been to four in the last five years. Man, I
mean you got to wear that right. You gotta just
stink your chest out. And yet they all get a
butt heard about the officiat and everything else. So you
know me, I'm just gonna pile off. I like to say, Sean,
I'm a really gracious loser, but I'm an ass when.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
It comes to winning, and I'm there for every single
part of it, at every single tweet and response. And
you're right, if you're going to get the locker room twitter,
same way, if you're going to bring it in faintal heart,
don't need to apply when it comes to the locker room,
because guys have no they will not bear your feelings
one bit. They don't cut you a break at all.
All right, Mark, let's get to this game for a day.
(02:19):
You get such deep and great in analysis, and you've
been in them, You've walked down the tunnel, you've prepared
for him. When did you know, whether it's your first
one or your last one, that your team was ready?
What told you they were ready?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You know? Just the way we went about our business
and we had a blast. Like we're down there super
Bowl side, joinking around doing all kinds of fun stuff.
But the way we practice in all three of them, dude, Like,
I mean, we get into a practice on a Thursday
or Friday and it'd be twenty thirty minutes shorter than normal.
The ball didn't hit the ground, it was you know.
(02:55):
As a matter of fact, we're doing my first Super Bowl,
super Bowl twenty six with the Washington red Is against
the Buffalo Bills. We're practicing on Thursday and we are
literally murdering each other. I mean it is full still
you know how it used to be back in the day. Yeah,
just killing one another nine on seven and everything else.
And we are beating a living snot out of one another.
(03:16):
And John Madden and Pat Summer all at practice, and
you know it's a big game when those two guys
are at your practice, right, And Joe Gibbs has to
blow the whistle and stop practice because we're like, we're
gonna murder each other. And Joe John Madden turns to
Joe Gibbs and and Pat summerle and he goes, you
guys are gonna absolutely murder the Buffalo Bills, right, and
(03:40):
you just know, yeah, he goes, you guys are gonna
murder them. And it was one of those situations where
we practiced so well during the week, we were so
finally honed in, and then you have coaching staff. You know,
we got into Super Bowl thirty two with Mike Shanahan
and nobody ran against the Green Bay Packers, and we
were thirteen point underdogs to start the week, and you know,
(04:02):
more eleven and a half points to kickoff. And I
remember putting that game plan in and Shanahan saying, we're
gonna gut these guys in the run game. And so
he goes, look at this, and he had the formation.
It was strong, right slot okay, So tight end on
the right side, full back up, you know, tailback, dotted
behind the quarterback under center, so strong right slot, you're
(04:24):
X and your Z on the back side of that
right yep. And anytime you got into that formation, the
Green Bay Packers weak side linebacker, his name was Brian Williams,
he would start creeping out outside, you know, getting outside
the tackle box right.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, they were walking near the slot.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, walking out towards the spot. So what they were doing,
and they were exchanging the responsibility between that week side linebacker.
And then Leroy Butler would run down, screen down, and
he'd make every tackle on the backfield, like every tackle.
And Shanahan puts on like five different teams, six different teams,
probably twenty plays. We watch Lroy Butler make every tackle,
(05:05):
and he says, this is what we're gonna gut him.
We're not chasing that weak side linebacker. We're turning over
our slot receiver. Ready, mccaffree, you got him right, You
go dig out, Brian Williams, think, zim, what we're gonna
do is we're gonna scoop that backside and you're gonna
exchange that weak side linebacker for the safety and I'm
telling you sewn as sure as I'm talking to you
(05:25):
right now. We get in the second third play of
the game, whatever it is, and we get in the
strong right slot, and then we go eighteen handoff and
we're in the John's and his cadence and I see,
I see Brian Williams start to creep out, creep out,
creep out, and I'll just go zim zim zim zim
zim and he's like, yeah, I got you. And so
we scooped that backside. Here comes Leroy Butler thinking he's
(05:46):
just got a free access run at Terrell Davis and
I mean, I just hit him in the jaw ball
that's Overdee kettle. TD cuts back fifteen yards and I
come back walking back to the huddle them and I
and I go, we're gonna gut these mother you know, Yeah?
Yeah them? Oh yeah. Terrell Davis missed a quarter plus
(06:08):
and we still he still had one hundred and fifty
two yards rushing. He missed with a migrant, still had
one hundred fifty two yards rushing, and and came away
with Super Bowl NVP.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah. Physical beatdown by you guys. I remember it well.
All right, mark our pregame speeches in the game, this magnitude.
Should you need a pregame speech by the coach? Are
they overrated?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Overrated? You know it's funny. Uh Like Tom Jackson stopped me.
Tommy our former teammate over there at ESPN, long time
Denver Bronco. And he goes to me. He goes, he
was in the locker room for Super Bowl thirty two
and he said, oh, man, best pregame speech I ever
heard Mike Shannan give you guys before. Gave me goosebumps.
I knew you guys were going to win. And he
(06:50):
and he's asking me about I go, what do you say?
And he goes, what do you mean where he's gonna go.
I wouldn't listen to that, and I may I don't
remember it. Damn, I'm young. I don't know about you.
But I was so locked into what I had to
do to make sure I didn't let my team down. Right. Yeah,
So you could say, Mike Shanahan get up to say
whatever he's gonna say. I wasn't paying any attention to
what Mike Shanahan said. I got a job to do, man,
(07:12):
I know what my job is I'm a professional freaking
football player, so every I has got every tease crossed.
I'm ready to go chomping at the bit.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Mark Shlaire a longtime television ESPN guy Fox and uh,
by the way, your show is awesome, you guys, and
the I love the name too, don't you. Yeah, Breakfast
that is classic. What a great name and you guys
got great rapport. Also the fan in Denver, award winning
and a three time Super Bowl champ Pro bowler as well.
All right, Mark, okay, you and I I've asked this
(07:42):
to a couple of people this week, but you, because
of your expertise in the run game and understand line
stunts and that part of the football. IQ, let's flip
it be the defensive coordinator, your spagnolo this week. How
you stopping Barkley?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah? You know, I mean, I will tell you Sean,
it's one of those situations where you're bringing that extra
defender into the box. You know, if they've got a
six man front, you're bringing a seventh guy in. You're
bringing an eighth guy in. But the bottom line is
you're just you're trying to contain him, right.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
You don't want him to hit the home run, right, Mark,
you got to make him those hit singles the whole time.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Right, Yeah, Like I'm almost I'm almost of the belief
where like you say, Okay, we're gonna give you your yards,
but you're not gonna take one seventy and so I
don't know, man like vig Fangio does it. I don't
know if Spagnola will do it. But Big Fangil plays
a lot of too high looks heels of the safeties
at about eleven twelve yards, and you basically say, man,
(08:43):
we're gonna run rid our Runky's safety. Either safety's gonna
come down and get involved late, but we'll give up
the five or six yard games. We'll do that. Man,
we get that eight man in box. You know, two
things happen to you when you bring that extra defender.
You know this as a quarterback, you get one on
one access to the outside. You bring up an extra defender,
and whether you're cover one, which is man to man,
(09:04):
or cover three, which is his own. But if you
go vertical routes on those outsides, it turns the man
you're in man to man yep. And so get you
get to the benefit of two things. Happening. Do you
get access to the outside where you bring an eight
man front and then with Saquon, they don't hesitate. And
we did it all the time in Denver. Eight man
fronts will run that. We'll run all day long on
eight man front because we know how to do it right.
(09:26):
We know how to turn a backside defender loose and
get somebody to the front side. And so if you
in an eight man front of you get them blocked
up or Saquon makes one guy miss, I'm sorry, but
they're in the dB in the world that's going to
catch that son of a gun. So I'm almost wondering
if you just don't get into eight man fronts, if
you don't get into extra guys, you say, hey, look
we're giving up six yards to carry, but you ain't
(09:47):
busting one for seventy on us.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Is Jalen Hurts capable? I mean, he had a really
good Super Bowl the last time they played you is
that one funble other that he was the MVP of
the game if they win, And he's such a poised player,
But don't look at him as that pure throwing throw
for throw against a guy like Mahomes or a guy
that you know, whether it was Marino back in our
day or whether it's somebody who's just that that that
(10:10):
looks that part, but he's efficient. So in this game,
if they do get into a throwing contest, do you
trust him?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I do, Like I do trust him because I do
think if they get no throwing contest, they've got so
many like they have just so many weapons. And the
other thing is is they get the advantage of you
being so focused on Saquon that you're gonna get those
one on ones. You're gonna get those opportunities where you know,
based upon Saquon and based upon inserting safeties and how
(10:41):
they line up with the linebacker position, whether the boss
guys strong or they you know, they move guys to
the week, you know where you're getting that safety help,
so you really it really becomes a very easy read.
There's not much like there's not much disguise because you're
so worried about Saquon. So in those matchups, do I
believe that Jalen Hurst can do it? Absolutely? I do.
(11:03):
I think one of the things you know that he
has been asked to do is just not turn the
ball over. So I look like he's being a really
unselfish player, and people don't give him credit for all
that he really does in that offense. But I think
if it comes down to a throwing contest, I think
he'll get those matchups. And I like the receiving corps
in that old line better than I like the ones
(11:25):
in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Mark, we come out of this game, the one statistic
that will be the telling that they will tell us
that the team that won. I know you're gonna I believe,
like by the Talk Philadelphia, I saw your stuff on TV.
What will be the one stat coming out of this
that will tell us that team one?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I think. I mean, I think it'll be sa Quon
and its tempts more than I even think yardage.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Hang on one second, let me interrupt you. Do you
realize do you realize what I said on the show
about an hour ago? Well, my number one team, my
number one key is look, when this game's over, it
not the yards, but the rushing attempts. The team that's
like in the thirty, the team that wins rushing attempts
is gonna win this game as long as they also
don't turn it over four times right in the red zone.
(12:13):
I said that, so we are on the exact same
I don't care if it's thirty four attempts for ninety yards.
That team's got a hell of an advantage if the
other team hasn't matched the run.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Game, right, because there's a couple of things that are
gonna happen in that One, you're gonna possess the ball, right,
you're gonna win the time possession. Two, you're gonna get
a bunch of one on one access opportunities for your quarterback. Right, Like,
when those two things happen, man Like, like, hey, man,
if I get a J Brown a bunch of one
on ones, If I got Davonte Smith a bunch of
(12:42):
one on ones, if I get Dallas Goddard a bunch
of one on ones, guess what's gonna happen. We're gonna
have success. And so yeah, I'm I'm one hundred percent
with you. You know, it's time of possession. It is
it is you know, eating up that clock, It is
getting those attempts. It's the pressure that Saquon puts on
the people when he gets that ball. I just think
(13:02):
that that is a huge, huge, like that's just a
huge key factor. So you and I on the same page,
is it.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'll let you go on this. You've worked your ass
off all week, brother, with traveling from New York and
back to New Orleans and all over. I appreciate your
time as is this a close one last possession and
I'm assuming you got Philadelphia. What's the score?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah? I think, you know, I think the Philadelphia Eagles.
And maybe this is wishfel thinking because I hate the
Kansas City Chiefs of the White House Dead to the
thousand Sons, so which is horrid when you sit there
and say, hey, man, you know you're going to root
for the Egles fan base, but I'm going Eagles, and
I think it's going to be like thirty one twenty.
I think they I think they can possess the ball.
(13:45):
I think Saque has a big day. And I also think,
like for Vic Fangil, he does a really good job.
He did when he was the head coach of the
Broncos over Kansas City. And I think one of the
big things is if I'm coaching defense, I'm like, hey,
my linebackers are gonna play with about a yard or
two more yards of death. I'm gonna take away that
(14:07):
quick passing game. Because you look at the first the
first quarter of the ANFC championship game, and the ball
is out in under two seconds, yeap and his it's
traveling three yards and they're picking up twelve. And so
I'm saying, I'm gonna play from top down. I'm not
gonna play from stepping up, you know and getting death right.
(14:27):
So I'm gonna play from top down, and I'm gonna
make you, Andy Reid being you, I'm gonna make you
run the ball. Do you have the wherewithal? Do you
have the humility to actually hand it to your running backs?
I don't believe he does, because I don't believe that's
the way he wants to win. So I would make them.
I would invite them to run the crap out of
the ball and just see if Andy will do it.
(14:49):
I'll give you five yards six yards to carry. Will
you do it? Will you take it? I don't believe
he will.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Great point, great stuff. As always you always every year
we get a chance this Super Bowl, we do it
more than once. But I I sure love having you on, brother,
and I'm proud of you and your tremendous success. But
you're you make me laugh every day and I love
you like family, my man, and I appreciate you. Please
please tell the rest of your family I said hello
and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Be good.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
All right? That's Mark Slare is one of my favorite
people on the planet. And he explains it about as
good as you can. From alignment, from a guard position,
even through all the positions. A guy understands football and
he is as competitive and smart at that position as
you'll ever find. Love him, great person and he'll make
you laugh. He's a good follow on Twitter. Go there
and you'll watch him abuse the chief Kansas City Chiefs.
(15:38):
He's got and he is classic at it. A lot
of it's for fun, but he ain't backing off. If
you're coming into his Twitter, you better be ready. Sports
Talk seven ninety we're gonna wrap this one up, our
last show before the Super Bowl. Here Sports Talk seven
ninety
We're there for the Sewn Salisbury Show continued. Now we're
gonna welcome in three times Super Bowl champion co host
of breakfast Ball on FS one, Mark Slareth Yeah, and
also does his at the Fan in Denver, does his
morning award winning radio show in Denver. Fits it all in.
(00:21):
Longtime partner of mine at ESPN on television. One of
my favorite people and best friends on the planet, Mark
Slaire does join us.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Grateful to have you man as always, and one of
my favorite things is on your one of my favorite follows.
As you know, I always love the rings on your
finger with some guys when you put them on. All
those eighteen crooked figures you got that are right right
angle here. This one's too big, this one's too and
when they say something, you just put that in there
(00:49):
and you got the suit and the figures are led up.
Every time I see it, I can't help but cry
about it because I ain't got one. So I'm living
vicariously through you. Brother.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Appreciate that. Always good to hear your voice, my friend.
I love you. Always good to connect and yeah, you
know what I always say, Twitter is like to me,
that whole social media thing is like an extension of
locker room and don't walk in there. It's you know,
being in a locker room. It's killer, be killed. You
better have your a game at all times. And I'm like,
if you're gonna come at me, man, come get a taste,
(01:20):
because I'll just get it right back to you. And
so I I enjoy it. Boy. I don't know, man,
I've like recently, I don't know that I've found a
softer fan base in the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I mean, you are you are killing them.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Come on, you guys have won three Super Bowls, You've
been to four in the last five years. Man, I
mean you got to wear that right. You gotta just
stink your chest out. And yet they all get a
butt heard about the officiat and everything else. So you
know me, I'm just gonna pile off. I like to say, Sean,
I'm a really gracious loser, but I'm an ass when.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
It comes to winning, and I'm there for every single
part of it, at every single tweet and response. And
you're right, if you're going to get the locker room twitter,
same way, if you're going to bring it in faintal heart,
don't need to apply when it comes to the locker room,
because guys have no they will not bear your feelings
one bit. They don't cut you a break at all.
All right, Mark, let's get to this game for a day.
(02:19):
You get such deep and great in analysis, and you've
been in them, You've walked down the tunnel, you've prepared
for him. When did you know, whether it's your first
one or your last one, that your team was ready?
What told you they were ready?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You know? Just the way we went about our business
and we had a blast. Like we're down there super
Bowl side, joinking around doing all kinds of fun stuff.
But the way we practice in all three of them, dude, Like,
I mean, we get into a practice on a Thursday
or Friday and it'd be twenty thirty minutes shorter than normal.
The ball didn't hit the ground, it was you know.
(02:55):
As a matter of fact, we're doing my first Super Bowl,
super Bowl twenty six with the Washington red Is against
the Buffalo Bills. We're practicing on Thursday and we are
literally murdering each other. I mean it is full still
you know how it used to be back in the day. Yeah,
just killing one another nine on seven and everything else.
And we are beating a living snot out of one another.
(03:16):
And John Madden and Pat Summer all at practice, and
you know it's a big game when those two guys
are at your practice, right, And Joe Gibbs has to
blow the whistle and stop practice because we're like, we're
gonna murder each other. And Joe John Madden turns to
Joe Gibbs and and Pat summerle and he goes, you
guys are gonna absolutely murder the Buffalo Bills, right, and
(03:40):
you just know, yeah, he goes, you guys are gonna
murder them. And it was one of those situations where
we practiced so well during the week, we were so
finally honed in, and then you have coaching staff. You know,
we got into Super Bowl thirty two with Mike Shanahan
and nobody ran against the Green Bay Packers, and we
were thirteen point underdogs to start the week, and you know,
(04:02):
more eleven and a half points to kickoff. And I
remember putting that game plan in and Shanahan saying, we're
gonna gut these guys in the run game. And so
he goes, look at this, and he had the formation.
It was strong, right slot okay, So tight end on
the right side, full back up, you know, tailback, dotted
behind the quarterback under center, so strong right slot, you're
(04:24):
X and your Z on the back side of that
right yep. And anytime you got into that formation, the
Green Bay Packers weak side linebacker, his name was Brian Williams,
he would start creeping out outside, you know, getting outside
the tackle box right.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, they were walking near the slot.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, walking out towards the spot. So what they were doing,
and they were exchanging the responsibility between that week side linebacker.
And then Leroy Butler would run down, screen down, and
he'd make every tackle on the backfield, like every tackle.
And Shanahan puts on like five different teams, six different teams,
probably twenty plays. We watch Lroy Butler make every tackle,
(05:05):
and he says, this is what we're gonna gut him.
We're not chasing that weak side linebacker. We're turning over
our slot receiver. Ready, mccaffree, you got him right, You
go dig out, Brian Williams, think, zim, what we're gonna
do is we're gonna scoop that backside and you're gonna
exchange that weak side linebacker for the safety and I'm
telling you sewn as sure as I'm talking to you
(05:25):
right now. We get in the second third play of
the game, whatever it is, and we get in the
strong right slot, and then we go eighteen handoff and
we're in the John's and his cadence and I see,
I see Brian Williams start to creep out, creep out,
creep out, and I'll just go zim zim zim zim
zim and he's like, yeah, I got you. And so
we scooped that backside. Here comes Leroy Butler thinking he's
(05:46):
just got a free access run at Terrell Davis and
I mean, I just hit him in the jaw ball
that's Overdee kettle. TD cuts back fifteen yards and I
come back walking back to the huddle them and I
and I go, we're gonna gut these mother you know, Yeah?
Yeah them? Oh yeah. Terrell Davis missed a quarter plus
(06:08):
and we still he still had one hundred and fifty
two yards rushing. He missed with a migrant, still had
one hundred fifty two yards rushing, and and came away
with Super Bowl NVP.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah. Physical beatdown by you guys. I remember it well.
All right, mark our pregame speeches in the game, this magnitude.
Should you need a pregame speech by the coach? Are
they overrated?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Overrated? You know it's funny. Uh Like Tom Jackson stopped me.
Tommy our former teammate over there at ESPN, long time
Denver Bronco. And he goes to me. He goes, he
was in the locker room for Super Bowl thirty two
and he said, oh, man, best pregame speech I ever
heard Mike Shannan give you guys before. Gave me goosebumps.
I knew you guys were going to win. And he
(06:50):
and he's asking me about I go, what do you say?
And he goes, what do you mean where he's gonna go.
I wouldn't listen to that, and I may I don't
remember it. Damn, I'm young. I don't know about you.
But I was so locked into what I had to
do to make sure I didn't let my team down. Right. Yeah,
So you could say, Mike Shanahan get up to say
whatever he's gonna say. I wasn't paying any attention to
what Mike Shanahan said. I got a job to do, man,
(07:12):
I know what my job is I'm a professional freaking
football player, so every I has got every tease crossed.
I'm ready to go chomping at the bit.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Mark Shlaire a longtime television ESPN guy Fox and uh,
by the way, your show is awesome, you guys, and
the I love the name too, don't you. Yeah, Breakfast
that is classic. What a great name and you guys
got great rapport. Also the fan in Denver, award winning
and a three time Super Bowl champ Pro bowler as well.
All right, Mark, okay, you and I I've asked this
(07:42):
to a couple of people this week, but you, because
of your expertise in the run game and understand line
stunts and that part of the football. IQ, let's flip
it be the defensive coordinator, your spagnolo this week. How
you stopping Barkley?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah? You know, I mean, I will tell you Sean,
it's one of those situations where you're bringing that extra
defender into the box. You know, if they've got a
six man front, you're bringing a seventh guy in. You're
bringing an eighth guy in. But the bottom line is
you're just you're trying to contain him, right.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
You don't want him to hit the home run, right, Mark,
you got to make him those hit singles the whole time.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Right, Yeah, Like I'm almost I'm almost of the belief
where like you say, Okay, we're gonna give you your yards,
but you're not gonna take one seventy and so I
don't know, man like vig Fangio does it. I don't
know if Spagnola will do it. But Big Fangil plays
a lot of too high looks heels of the safeties
at about eleven twelve yards, and you basically say, man,
(08:43):
we're gonna run rid our Runky's safety. Either safety's gonna
come down and get involved late, but we'll give up
the five or six yard games. We'll do that. Man,
we get that eight man in box. You know, two
things happen to you when you bring that extra defender.
You know this as a quarterback, you get one on
one access to the outside. You bring up an extra defender,
and whether you're cover one, which is man to man,
(09:04):
or cover three, which is his own. But if you
go vertical routes on those outsides, it turns the man
you're in man to man yep. And so get you
get to the benefit of two things. Happening. Do you
get access to the outside where you bring an eight
man front and then with Saquon, they don't hesitate. And
we did it all the time in Denver. Eight man
fronts will run that. We'll run all day long on
eight man front because we know how to do it right.
(09:26):
We know how to turn a backside defender loose and
get somebody to the front side. And so if you
in an eight man front of you get them blocked
up or Saquon makes one guy miss, I'm sorry, but
they're in the dB in the world that's going to
catch that son of a gun. So I'm almost wondering
if you just don't get into eight man fronts, if
you don't get into extra guys, you say, hey, look
we're giving up six yards to carry, but you ain't
(09:47):
busting one for seventy on us.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Is Jalen Hurts capable? I mean, he had a really
good Super Bowl the last time they played you is
that one funble other that he was the MVP of
the game if they win, And he's such a poised player,
But don't look at him as that pure throwing throw
for throw against a guy like Mahomes or a guy
that you know, whether it was Marino back in our
day or whether it's somebody who's just that that that
(10:10):
looks that part, but he's efficient. So in this game,
if they do get into a throwing contest, do you
trust him?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I do, Like I do trust him because I do
think if they get no throwing contest, they've got so
many like they have just so many weapons. And the
other thing is is they get the advantage of you
being so focused on Saquon that you're gonna get those
one on ones. You're gonna get those opportunities where you know,
based upon Saquon and based upon inserting safeties and how
(10:41):
they line up with the linebacker position, whether the boss
guys strong or they you know, they move guys to
the week, you know where you're getting that safety help,
so you really it really becomes a very easy read.
There's not much like there's not much disguise because you're
so worried about Saquon. So in those matchups, do I
believe that Jalen Hurst can do it? Absolutely? I do.
(11:03):
I think one of the things you know that he
has been asked to do is just not turn the
ball over. So I look like he's being a really
unselfish player, and people don't give him credit for all
that he really does in that offense. But I think
if it comes down to a throwing contest, I think
he'll get those matchups. And I like the receiving corps
in that old line better than I like the ones
(11:25):
in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Mark, we come out of this game, the one statistic
that will be the telling that they will tell us
that the team that won. I know you're gonna I believe,
like by the Talk Philadelphia, I saw your stuff on TV.
What will be the one stat coming out of this
that will tell us that team one?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I think. I mean, I think it'll be sa Quon
and its tempts more than I even think yardage.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Hang on one second, let me interrupt you. Do you
realize do you realize what I said on the show
about an hour ago? Well, my number one team, my
number one key is look, when this game's over, it
not the yards, but the rushing attempts. The team that's
like in the thirty, the team that wins rushing attempts
is gonna win this game as long as they also
don't turn it over four times right in the red zone.
(12:13):
I said that, so we are on the exact same
I don't care if it's thirty four attempts for ninety yards.
That team's got a hell of an advantage if the
other team hasn't matched the run.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Game, right, because there's a couple of things that are
gonna happen in that One, you're gonna possess the ball, right,
you're gonna win the time possession. Two, you're gonna get
a bunch of one on one access opportunities for your quarterback. Right, Like,
when those two things happen, man Like, like, hey, man,
if I get a J Brown a bunch of one
on ones, If I got Davonte Smith a bunch of
(12:42):
one on ones, if I get Dallas Goddard a bunch
of one on ones, guess what's gonna happen. We're gonna
have success. And so yeah, I'm I'm one hundred percent
with you. You know, it's time of possession. It is
it is you know, eating up that clock, It is
getting those attempts. It's the pressure that Saquon puts on
the people when he gets that ball. I just think
(13:02):
that that is a huge, huge, like that's just a
huge key factor. So you and I on the same page,
is it.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'll let you go on this. You've worked your ass
off all week, brother, with traveling from New York and
back to New Orleans and all over. I appreciate your
time as is this a close one last possession and
I'm assuming you got Philadelphia. What's the score?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah? I think, you know, I think the Philadelphia Eagles.
And maybe this is wishfel thinking because I hate the
Kansas City Chiefs of the White House Dead to the
thousand Sons, so which is horrid when you sit there
and say, hey, man, you know you're going to root
for the Egles fan base, but I'm going Eagles, and
I think it's going to be like thirty one twenty.
I think they I think they can possess the ball.
(13:45):
I think Saque has a big day. And I also think,
like for Vic Fangil, he does a really good job.
He did when he was the head coach of the
Broncos over Kansas City. And I think one of the
big things is if I'm coaching defense, I'm like, hey,
my linebackers are gonna play with about a yard or
two more yards of death. I'm gonna take away that
(14:07):
quick passing game. Because you look at the first the
first quarter of the ANFC championship game, and the ball
is out in under two seconds, yeap and his it's
traveling three yards and they're picking up twelve. And so
I'm saying, I'm gonna play from top down. I'm not
gonna play from stepping up, you know and getting death right.
(14:27):
So I'm gonna play from top down, and I'm gonna
make you, Andy Reid being you, I'm gonna make you
run the ball. Do you have the wherewithal? Do you
have the humility to actually hand it to your running backs?
I don't believe he does, because I don't believe that's
the way he wants to win. So I would make them.
I would invite them to run the crap out of
the ball and just see if Andy will do it.
(14:49):
I'll give you five yards six yards to carry. Will
you do it? Will you take it? I don't believe
he will.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Great point, great stuff. As always you always every year
we get a chance this Super Bowl, we do it
more than once. But I I sure love having you on, brother,
and I'm proud of you and your tremendous success. But
you're you make me laugh every day and I love
you like family, my man, and I appreciate you. Please
please tell the rest of your family I said hello
and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Be good.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
All right? That's Mark Slare is one of my favorite
people on the planet. And he explains it about as
good as you can. From alignment, from a guard position,
even through all the positions. A guy understands football and
he is as competitive and smart at that position as
you'll ever find. Love him, great person and he'll make
you laugh. He's a good follow on Twitter. Go there
and you'll watch him abuse the chief Kansas City Chiefs.
(15:38):
He's got and he is classic at it. A lot
of it's for fun, but he ain't backing off. If
you're coming into his Twitter, you better be ready. Sports
Talk seven ninety we're gonna wrap this one up, our
last show before the Super Bowl. Here Sports Talk seven
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