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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And we jumped down into the nine o'clock hour here
on a fight song Friday. As the Astros loose to
the Blue Jays yesterday in Toronto, six nothing. They lose
two out of three Mariners win, so that means they're
tied with the Stros and the Aos and the Texans.
That's what we're going to talk right now with Aaron
Wilson KPRC two, our own Sports Talk seven to ninety
Texans Insider. They're going to take on the Bucks Monday
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night inside in RG Stadium. And Aaron, I know you've
been on top of the injury situation. What's it looking
like for at least a couple of the receivers and
maybe even Jake Andrews for Monday night?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Right? Yeah, Dan, it's not looking good for the receivers,
and today's like the last chance for them to get
back out there. With Christian Kirk, it was a one
to two week hamstring strain and Barrios was supposed to
be back a little bit sooner. So they're making progress,
but they're making plans without them. And then Jake Andrews,
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I know they call him day to day, but that's
been a description applied to other injuries were long term.
He has a high ankle sprain and very rarely did
someone come back from a high ankle sprain on a
Sunday and the plan the following Monday night. So yeah,
Jerry Patterson are all, you know, all systems go for
him to be the new starting center. And he started
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before from a Notre Dame guy that has I think
held up you know, not you know, says Jim Otto
or anything, but he's held up when he's planned to play.
He's good with the snap, he's pretty good at diagnosing
the defense. He has a good rapport with TJ. Stroud,
So yeah, I think he can get the job done.
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And it wasn't like when he went in the game
against the Rams that there was a big problem. They
actually held up well against Punaford and some of the
interior rushers. They just had a lot of problems, specifically
arian to ursery with Byron Young about five pressures in
that one bull rush sack. It was rough. Welcome to
the NFL moment for day. But yeah, I say with injuries,
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as you guys know, you know, they're looking at potentially
getting ed Ingram back, and if they do that at
right guard, then they can go back to the configuration
they wanted to have with the exception of Jack Andrews,
which you mean first, or he can go back to
playing left tackle. Titus Howard can play right tackle. So
that's something we're monitoring heading it to kick off on
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Monday night.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Aaron, this team is similar. I know it's Rams. I
know they're good, and they almost had a dutch they
I mean, they had a chance to pull this thing
out and they didn't, which leads me to Okay, similar offense.
Just on offense, I'm talking about they beat themselves a
lot last year, self inflicted air of stupid penalties. It
continued on Monday. Two things that I'm starting to wonder
just as a carryover since they know the problem. It
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comes down to me, it's one of two things. If
they either want to buy in, but I'm hoping the
players buy in, but one of two things. Either we've
overrated them and they're not as talented offensively as we
thought they could be or should be, or their football
just doesn't get it. Which one is it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I would tend to lead on the individual players thinking
about too much and not being able to focus, and
there's only so much you can do as a coach.
You know, I know, you coach and work with a
lot of young people, do a great job. If they're
not responding to the coaching and you're doing everything right
as far as a coach, then you have to wonder
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how coachable is the young man or you know, in
this case adults. So the penalties you see like Laramie Kunsil,
that's a Larami Kuncile. He's still jumping off sides. The
geography changed, the team changed, he didn't change. So really,
I would say there's too much sometimes put on the
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coach of you know, well, why can't you get these
guys to stop? I would say it's on the player.
The player controls not jumping off sides. The player, you know,
these second and long and long situations. I mean a
lot of that is on them. I think accountability has
got to start with the player, and if they can't
get it done, then you put someone else in That
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is on the coach if you continue to play guys
that will not fix the errors. He's got at some
point have some consequences. And that's every coach you wrestle with.
But he's my best player, which he's your best player.
And he's hurting your cause, then you have to make
a change or you have to think about when you're
drafting these players, you know, what's their penalty situation like.
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But yeah, sometimes the past doesn't even predict the future.
I mean, you think Lake Fisher had a bunch of
face mask penalties for the nere Dame Irish and he
was an All American No, So I mean sometimes you
are surprised by people's performance or lack thereof at this level.
You know, that's too clinical about it. But ultimately, I
mean if it's on too, you're going on too. You
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have to know the snapcamp and you have to not
let anything affect your focus. So yeah, I was, you know,
thinking about this team and about everything that goes on.
You really got to look in the mirror. I mean,
that's that's the thing. You know, these are the men
in the arenas the poem goes, they have to be accountable.
It's on these guys.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Do the fixing part of it? How I mean is
there Well what's the answer then? And you talked about
each individual doing it, But if they can't do it
and this continues, how blatant and how I mean how
forceful do you got to be with this. I mean
it getting to a point where the offense is put yeah. Yeah,
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But the question is this, does this team have that
nastiness on offense enough to say it's either this or
this ultimatum type it are there, and as are the
players nasty enough on offense to dominate games?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
That's a great question. I haven't seen the main streak
on offense that we've ever seen on defense. No one's
ever really said these are gretty tough guys. I've seen
some signs, some encouraging signs with the new retooled offensive line.
I know Kole Popovich is all about that, about being feisty,
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and you know he's a Dante's cardeciet decipher. I know
he's teaching it the right way. But it doesn't necessarily
all take hold in one offseason and they've got basically
I would say, five new starters because Titus Howard's not
playing the same position, So five new guys. You overhauled
it completely, and maybe it's too much expected in one game.
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It's gonna look the way it's going to look in
four to six weeks, when maybe people settle into their positions.
I think you have to Obviously, you don't want to
only go off hope, right Sean. I mean that's not
a great recipe for success, but you have to be
I think a little more patient than some have been.
It was one game, and there were some things that
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I think they could hang their hat on. Like we
thought Jared Verse was going to wreck the game, right,
That's what most people thought, How are they going to
block this guy? He's gonna have a beast game? Didn't
Byron Young did? And I don't think they slept on
Byron Now. I would just say some things they did worked,
including a running the ball things. Do more of that.
They were better as a run blocking team, especially on
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those Nick Jubb runs than we had seen at some
points last year, even with Joe mix in the lineup
where Joe's just run into a stone wall. But I think,
you know, you don't want to throw out the baby
with the bathwater. I mean, this is a team that
has a lot of progress they need to make in
every area. On offense, they were missing some guys. I
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don't think there's any reason to make any excuses, but
at some point I was just looking at their bench.
They don't have any real depth, so I mean, there's
not much you can do. Let's say, you know, if
Cam Robinson's not starting, Yeah, obviously Cam could come in
for one of those tackles. But I don't think that's
the answer. I mean, they think Ercery is going to
be a good football player. We thought that in the preseason.
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He had a bad debut. I think you just got
to stick with him and hope it's going to get better.
You got to congeted coach and attack the problem. But
sure penalties. As CJ. Straud said, this is unfair to
Nick Cayley for him to have to call plays with
a bunch of second and twenties again.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Aaron Wilson Sports Talk seven nineties Texans Insider with KPRC two.
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find him. Nick Cayley's first game, well, what did you
think of his performance calling plays in that first game?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It was just solid. It was just okay. It wasn't
necessarily this big revelation of okay. Now slowly sto on,
everything's going to click. It takes time. He's a wiokie
play caller, So everything's new, including you know, the play caller.
And I think he's got a feel for the game.
And I've talked to a lot of people that know him.
He's very smart. I've talked to Sean McVeagh about him.
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I've talked to people from the Patriots about him. He's
Scott it, but it's going to come out later. I
think as he works more. I like that they have
some preting at motion. I like that there's some kind
of structure to the run plays. I think it also
his designs are more tailored to the kind of lineman
they have. And that's all good, but the results aren't
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there yet, and I think he can get there. I
think they've got some good players, but some of these
guys have to make that play. Like Jayden Higgins. He's
in the situation where you can't let this small dB
Kobe Durant take the football away from you, and Nick
Cayley can't go out there and do it for him,
So you know, you have to use your personnel. I
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think they got to use Jalen nol Moore. I think
they've got to be more stubborn with the running game,
and you've got to increase. The biggest thing I didn't
like was the lack of targets for Nico Collins. You've
got to scheme that and find a way to get
him the football. There shouldn't be a game where he's
not getting eight to twelve targets period.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I got to put him around and put him in
the slot and run him in motion and get him
in bubbles. I don't care. He's got to get the ball.
He just does.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Sean, I'll pointing out to you and I think, you know,
I like to think a lot about what is actually
something that you could say is very good or great.
There's one player now that you don't have Joe Mixon
for probably it forever. You know, this is not a
good situation. Has been described to me as tough and
complicated per sources, So it's not looking good for him
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coming back anytime soon. Nico Collins is the only real
special guy you could say, Nko, that's it. That's our
Pro Bowl guy. No one else is in the Pro Bowl.
Lincoln Thomlinson was in the Pro Bowl years ago. Tren
Brown is on the practice squad. He's in the Pro
Bowl one time, So yeah, he's got to be the
focal point of the offense. I mean, we're talking about
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maybe the guy that you're trying to get a hundred
catches out of this season, I believe, And that was
a tough start.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, sure was. Well, let's let you go on this.
I want to get back to Kayley, who I'm always listening.
Just like we give quarterback as a rookie a little
bite for the doubt, you got to give a play caller.
Yet I'm going back to the original hiring real quick.
And I don't want to keep you long, Aaron, but
when they hired him, when they hired you, is it
got a little nepotism feel to it because of the familiarity.
I'm not saying that's the only reason, but you know
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you normally, like in football, if you're a four to
three coach and you don't do it well, they hire
a three four defensive coach. If you're a yeller and
screamer and you don't have success, the next coach they
hire is a more calm guy. Here, you had a
rookie offensive coordinator. He got to the second year, it
got worse. They got rid of him, and he went
right back to a guy who's never called plays again,
and I'm okay with it because you got to call
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plays to learn how to call plays. But what was
the deciding factor? Why didn't you go get a veteran
that you say just for now, we got to get
back on tracks, so we don't waste what we got.
Why go get a guy who's got to learn on
the job.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
They knew a lot more about him, including Nick Cassio's
connections and times from New England right right, New England.
But not just because he's near New England. So I
know a lot of fans get tired of hearing about
New England. But he did work in different systems. He was,
you know, Sean McVay is a fairly effective system. The
guys that have worked for McVeigh, like O'Connell, they've done
well and I think more than anything, and the impression
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he makes, you know, if you get a chance to
talk with him, he makes a great impression. He is smart.
I've gone back and talked to like when he was
a student assistant coach, the people at John Carroll University
or the University of Minnesota coach that work with him
at accor and just different guys are offive line coach.
No one has ever said anything other than hard working,
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good emotional intelligence. Creative isn't just going to copy the
McVeigh system like he's going to put in his own stamp.
I don't think we've seen everything that he's capable of yet.
I think there does need to be some thing of
a learning curve and some patients, and maybe in CJ
they start having a better collaboration. Starting on Monday night,
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it's got to start happening, and they got a block
feet of day and they gotta do as son Reddick,
and they gotta do a lot of things, and they
gotta watch out for Antoine Winfield. He makes a bunch
of plays. I think eventually it gets better. And they're
in a weak division. So when they start playing the Titans,
they start playing the Jaguars, they start playing these teams
that they're supposed to beat, maybe the winds start happening.
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But after Week Willing, it's hard for me to sit
here and say, oh, they're gonna beat a good team
in the playoffs and they're gonna get to the championship
game for the first time, not just the history of
the franchise, but first time. They're the only team in
the AFC, it's never made it to that point. They're
going six all time, so I think it'd be very
disappointing if they can't go further. But right now they
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just you know, you got to get back to the
playoffs and they're off to a tough start. I gotta
stick with Kaylee in terms of why you pick him.
If you look at his resume and you know he
was up against there was only one other guy, and
it was kind of informal. They're talk with Schip Kelly
and look how much dough he got to get back
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in the OC ranks and the leg Ohio state and
didn't sound like that was their budget for the OC.
But it wasn't a pure bidding or it just maybe
it wasn't a fit. I don't think this thing got
far down the road at all. I think it was
just a quick convo and then it didn't happen. But Kayley,
you know that was the feedback around the NFL sean
and Dan was yeah, agreed, Yeah, I mean, but at
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some point the's linemen. I mean, maybe it's just you know,
as simple as this, maybe we're over complicating it because
we're looking at everything right we're all analytical. If the
offensive line isn't it can't be fixed them on a year,
which you know is not, you know, uncommon, then maybe
this is kind of a you know, this is holding
them back. I don't know how the light just all
of a sudden clicks on. But we're going to see it.
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I mean, obviously we're gonna keep evaluating it. But it
didn't look good. It didn't look like it was going
to be good enough. Can it be good enough for
can at least be solid? If he can get to
solid from bad, maybe they've got a chance. You know,
there's a lot of maybes I've used or maybe and
hope a lot of this conversation. And I don't even
like using those words, you know. I like absolutes, like
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what certainty, and I don't think it's there yet. So
the honest answer, guys is, we're not sure about this offense,
and you've got to be just very you know, I
gonna be really objective here. I have my doubts, you know,
but I'm willing to change my mind if I see
something different to me encouraging. Right now, yeah, I'm concerned
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about the offense.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Sports Talk seven nineties Texans Insider also does work with
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Aaron Underscore Aaron Wilson Underscore NFL. Aaron, appreciate time. We'll
talk to you again, same time next week.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I have a great weekend, but I appreciate take care.