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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Sean Salisbury Brian The Seawan Salisbury Show continues. Good go
on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
All right, so you got a problem with it, No,
I don't not at all. Now I'm good with it.
I'm gonna be even better with it to see what
they do with these picks. See if they try to
trade up, See if they try to go get somebody else.
Because free agency, we remember last year, after day one,
the Texans didn't make very many moves. It's day two now,
so we'll see what happens as the free agent period
(00:38):
goes on. Plus that new league year I believe starts
on Wednesday. Laramie Tunzell being traded for me again, I
said it last segment. We'll discuss a little more. Is yes,
you traded him. It's going to free up some money,
right because reportedly he wanted he was gonna want another
massive contract, and they wanted to change the culture set.
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That's what I want to ask you about. And again
I'll say it again. When Demiko Ryans was hired, there
was so much made about is he going to be
able to change this culture with a lovey smith. Remember
we had a big discussion about it. It seemed like
guys weren't really given one hundred percent effort with Lovey Smith.
(01:23):
He wasn't getting his most out of that group, right,
So we're saying, how can Demiko Ryans change that and
bring in some quote unquote dogs into this locker room
right changing the culture? Sean, they just traded away laanry
Tonzo who's been their starting left tackle, does a pretty
good job post snap.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
They just traded him.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
So what does that say about what Demico Ryans and
Nick Cassario are continuing to do with this culture?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Like it should say in every building in the NFL,
if you're not, if you don't bring more value than
you're getting paid, not only to us, to you, to
players around you, then we'll get rid of you. And
they traded him for I mean a pretty good haul
that there was no first round picking it.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Great player.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Didn't Trent Williams get a first round pick when he
got traded from Washington to the San Francisco I believe
so to me, the great players that's held regard I
mean Tunsel. They got a good haul and they were
smart to do it because those assets they are building up.
They basically decided And when I say the headache. I'm
not talking about he's a problem off the filery, that
the headache of the money that's going to come down
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the pike because he doesn't deserve to be the highest
paid left tackle or one of the and that he
just doesn't. You can't have any penalties and do it.
Good player, not great. Good player won't sniff the Hall
of fam here people hal of fakes. Stop it, just
friggin stop it, okay. And I think the culture part
of that you're talking about. They don't get to dictate Austine.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
We listen.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's changed, and I know the CBA protects the players,
but when they used to call it voluntary, it was mandatory.
When up until what nineteen ninety five, two thousand and
then voluntary became really voluntary. And if you give a
couple athletes some voluntary work, increase their pay and give
them leeway to stay at home until they absolutely have
to be. See, that's one thing that bugs me. How
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often will you tell a kid you're coaching, or a
kid I'm coaching, you better do some lonely work man
show up without a coach having to tell you to
show up.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
See in the tunsil.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Stuff, I feel like he shows up when he's absolutely
told to, which to me is a culture problem.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I'm gonna tell you right now, you think Peyton.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Manning ever showed up, It didn't show up when it
was voluntary or when he even managed absolutely there before
everybody else.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I think Peyton Manning probably arranged his own workouts before
any of that.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Warren Muons voluntary manager. I know it's older school, but
even now, it's not the rule that's set up by
the CBA. It's the player and the character within the player.
And I'm sure the guy's in the locker room love tunsl.
I got nothing against him. I'm simply talking football and
your commitment to it. It felt like in listening to
it that it was a that the commitment was do
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exactly what you're asked to do and nothing more. And
I don't to me, I don't think you get better.
And I think they realized that, and I think they
realize the halls better than the player that if it
comes around again, they're not going to pay him the
money he wanted because he's not worth that much money.
He's a good player, and I actually think if he
goes there and has a little shift to heart. He
can be a great player for Washington their quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Really.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I mean he's going to a good place, yeah, and
be better. But the problem is, I don't know, can
you change your guys. If he doesn't value off seasons
as much others, you may not be able to change.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
That in Tunsil. Yeah, he's still going to be better
at the snap, right, he just is.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
We'll see if he puts inself and the team in
as much pressure and problems as he did here pre snap.
But with all that being said, the culture is simply this,
and I'm big on it, the guarantee of sacred cows,
thinking that I can show up on what When you
start to create that type of culture, it separates a
locker room because there's two sets of rules. And this
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message simply says to me that the value and there's
not two sets of rules. If you're not doing what
you need to do, we will find somebody else who will.
We'll trade you.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I love it exactly and quite frankly, if you're a
table put it this way. I know they got a
lot of a pretty good haul for him. But if
your tons will I know how players in their ego
are if you think you're the best left tackle in
the league and they trade you for picks and not
a one of them said first round on it, you're
y I guarantee your I'll bet you if you talked
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to him today, he'd say they didn't.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Get enough for me. Yeah, I'm about to go show
them one hundred percent. You watch.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Okay, well, you know what they are. The hell they
should have added. They should have asked for as many
players as he had penalties and then he'd had a
real haul, so like seventeen of them. Okay, so he
a good player. But I don't consider it a major loss.
I know that some people can say I don't, Well,
look how bad the line is. That means are retooling
the whole friggin thing. Especially I'd like you to tell
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me this, haven't I've always said this, and I'll say
it louder so the people in the back can hear.
And it's a friggin fact. Give me a Hall of
Famer and four average players on the offensive line, you
will get your ass kicked. Give me five consistent players
with no Hall of Famer and no pro bowler will
win more. Five guys working together that are good players,
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and none of them are superstars, none.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Of them are going to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Then it's all really good players, consistent, show up and
do all those things. You're going to win more than
the one Hall of Famer in four eh And you
know what they had last year, not a Hall of Famer.
They're one players, a good player, a Pro Bowl guy.
The other four were just kind of blah. They did okay,
and look what happened. So did that one player. Because
I can walk my best player to the other side,
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he ain't moving to the right tackle. So all just
put my best players in a position I don't have
to deal with your best and they can beat their
best once in a while anyway.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
That's how you do it.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Now, if you're fortunate like I was in Minnesota to
play with Zimmerman and Randall McDaniel on the same side
of a studded center, a right guard there's pretty good
in a right tackle who was a solid player, you're
going to be able to do pretty much what you want.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
YEA.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
If you get that blessing, very few get it. If
you get Detroit's people line up and go Philadelphia's offensive
line lineup and go this offensive line proved that one guy.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
With four uh in very good.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
And when the one guy leads your team at Penalis,
that means five or blah.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
That's how you change the culture. Man.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
You don't put up with crap. You don't let the
players dictate what goes on. If you're not sorry nick say,
but always says it, what value do you bring? I
need five consistent players. I don't need one superstar at
that position. If I can get three superstars, well hell
guess what, we're gonna win a lot of friggin football games.
I wish you just dropped that f I almost did
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almost two o'clock.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I'll drop it cool, see all there?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yes, hey, you know another thing we're talking about with
this offensive line. Give me beer drinkers, all right, beer
beer whisky guy, not a warm milk. Yeah, this handbag,
handbag model rep in your your matching little PJ set, No, no,
no out, give me some beer drinkers.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I know this is gonna sound wrong, and you'll get
the gist. I don't need a Louis Vuitton coach bag
offensive lineman. I need a guy who's got a backpack
that's ripped that same nylon uh like carry on could
carry to the gym that he's had since he was
like fourteen, right that he put you put the electrical
tape on it to keep it together. To Jimmy that guy, Yeah,
(08:17):
give me those guys. That's exactly, and just and just
wants to want potatoes guy and go home to a
good woman and wants a cold beer. Yeah, that's exactly.
He won't and he doesn't care the flavor. No, exactly
want of course the tap. Maybe it's the tap?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Sometimes you just gotta tap that ass? Yeah, I want
you to tap these nuts. Let's look at the hall.
Why don't you tap these nuts?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Let's look at the hall that's the Texans received four
right forehead. I figured all I was like, if Sean's
you can make it everything?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, hold hold these nuts too. Yeah. Let's go to
commercial Yeah, commercializing you can do so many different times.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Triple can you get your guy man, he's over here,
that control man. Yeah, you out of control man. All right,
let's look at the hall that the Texans got for trading.
Laramie Tunsil will discuss the next on Sports Talk seven
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