Astros 20-Hit Victory! NCAA Men's College Baseball World Series Preview, NBA Finals Game 6 Predictions

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Sewan Salisbury to usc true longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Word to Dubon stands in first pitch, hits high in
the air to left field.

Speaker 6 (00:29):
Back on it, Schumann onto the.

Speaker 5 (00:31):
Warning track, sea signor Dubon goes deep again. Back to
back nights for Dubond. He ties it up with his
third home run of the season. Here's the pitch, get
the other way, shallow, coming in for a rooker racing
and it's gonna fall. Each man will advance one base.

(00:53):
Jeremy Paine you breaks out of the slump with a
looping liner into right field and it's two to one.

Speaker 7 (01:00):
Astros one and al Twove hits it high in the year,
pretty deep to left center.

Speaker 6 (01:05):
Clark is going back looking up see Aletta.

Speaker 7 (01:10):
Hose al Tuob with a three run shot, hits twelfth
home run of the year, and the Astros lead is
five to one. Rounded up the third base line, past
the dive of Munsie and into the left field corner.
It goes scoring his ds Walker on his way to thirty.
He stops there and RBI double for Cam Smith his
fifth extra base hit in his last six games, and

(01:33):
the Astros late is six to one, one zero, and
that is hammered deep down the left field line ball
is hucking.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
If it stays fair, it's God, and it's a fair ball.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
And another three run homer for the Astros, this one
courtesy of Victor Carrattini, and the Astros lead at.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
Nine to one.

Speaker 8 (01:52):
Has heard last night right here on your home of
the Astros Sports Talk seven ninety kbm E Houston and
iHeartRadio station. Astros would score two more times and the
A's only three more times, So that final as called
by Robert Ford and Steve Sparks eleven to four out
there in Sacramento, Astros with their second straight win. With

(02:12):
all that, we say, away we go and good morning
here on the Sean Salisbury Show. As Sean, that was
a game last night that had a little bit of
frustration at the beginning, because you've got an opportunity to
be able to set the tone and really be able
to start to salt this thing away early. You load
the bases, Jeremy Paneap bringing home a run on a

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little blooper into right field to make it two to one.
But then Peretis strikes out al two, ve flies out
to center. You only get out of there with one.
So you're just like, ah, gosh, man again, we're doing
this thing. Like you know, it's so many times with
bases loaded less than one out, oh, you know, less
than two outs, you know, right there at two outs,

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and you're just unable to come through in that spot.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (03:01):
But the good part is the sixth inning came along
and they exploded. Hit the long ball. I mean, you know,
when you hang eleven runs on him. It did the frustration.
It was frustrating defensively too. Fromber was not himself, you know,
walked more than he struck out, didn't didn't have the
same command that you used to those able to get
out six innings, which is typical of him, you know,

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to even if he struggles.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
He's a workhorse.

Speaker 9 (03:25):
And but that was a I love the night when
he can pitch average, you can score double digits runs,
which has now happened twice in the series, and you
get the win, even though frustrations on both sides. You know,
hit at the plate and on the mound last night.
But these are wins that they obviously all matter, but
even matter more because you didn't have to crush yourself

(03:48):
bullpen wise and get him out in the third inning.
You were able to get him some distance, and quite frankly,
a good lesson to him is to battle through those things.
And it wasn't his best night and too many free
passes and command of the strikes one in the offensive end,
well early struggles. But I'll take this anyway I can
get it. That's about you know, that's back to back
big run games, and with the balls flying out of

(04:11):
the ballpark and a whole bunch of I mean from
Kartini to Pana to cam Smith, Daltuve to du Bond,
I mean, it was everybody grab yourself a piece of
this as well. And so you're looking at what's that?

Speaker 6 (04:25):
Now? What do we is that?

Speaker 10 (04:27):
What?

Speaker 6 (04:27):
Twenty four? Some twenty five runs last two games? Yeah,
it's twenty four. Yeah there you get thirteen last night.

Speaker 9 (04:33):
So I'll take any You'll take that anyway you can
get it. And it didn't take a seven and two thirds,
two hit, one run, one earned run for from Or
for them to get through this and be in a
situation the ninth any like high leverage. Again, what are
we going to do and these are ones again, I'll
say it.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
This is a short part five.

Speaker 9 (04:54):
When you're playing the A's, they've birdied that well, they
eagled the last two holes.

Speaker 6 (04:58):
Yeah, so you've they've.

Speaker 9 (04:59):
They've lapped a field in essence, obviously took a bogie
and hole in game one. So you do it again.
You take care of your business today. You've got a
pretty good pitcher going out for you, so you should
run out of here three to one, which would be
a what's that? Get it to Dan eight and eight
and two on the swing on the last to be
eight and two.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
In these they're seven and two, right.

Speaker 9 (05:21):
And then they and then they you know, they'll hit
the road, hit the road again. So I last night,
I'll live with it. You'll take and you know, we
can find a complaint in every game. But then we've
been begging for runs and we got them back to
back nights. And even though your ace is out there,
your ace was average for what we're used to from him,
and you still were able to take care of it

(05:42):
after some early frustration and then the sixth inning eruption. Yeah,
though those type of games you'll take, even though there's
frustrations along the line, but lessons learned and uh again
proved last night that you didn't have to have a Fortunately,
you didn't have to have a an ace performance to
win that game.

Speaker 8 (05:57):
Yeah, Sean just mentioned that six inning option seven runs
in that inning, and you heard Robert Ford call all
seven of those runs with the l two a three
run homer, Camp Smith RBI double and then Victor Carrottini
going down the left field line against Sean Newcomb for
the A's.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
But I mean, it's a great win for you.

Speaker 8 (06:17):
You're now a season high twelve games above five hundred
at forty three and thirty one. The Mariners lose yesterday,
the Rangers lose yesterday, so you're able to continue, you know,
separating yourself from those guys. And Sean, I mean it
just comes back to it again. You mentioned the six, seven,
eight to nine in the order two for four last

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night out of Victor Carrottini. You get a few hits,
say you get three of them, as a matter of fact,
out of Jake Myers, and you also get a couple
of hits from Maricio j Bond three. Yeah, you grabbed
three last night. It's incredible. And Camp Smith with three two.
So I mean those guys just continuing to mash for
you and being able to make a difference in LinkedIn
this lineup right there at the bottom of the order.

Speaker 9 (07:00):
And here we go to again two things that you've
that you appear as we can trust right now with
the way they've played and at times, quite frankly, have
had to step up. I don't want to say carry them,
but do that thing has been the back end of
the lineup. And three four and five pitching. Not that

(07:20):
I'm not saying they've had to replace what Hunter Brown
and from were having it because they pitched great. I'm
just talking about filling in at injuries and stuff. The
guys that we did not expect to be heavily involved
and quite frankly, get you a bunch of wins this
year with their contribution are a rookie, a center fielder

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that supposedly can't hit, a bunch of pitchers that are
that are new, that have been journeymen or somebody else's
cast off overcoming injuries, a third baseman that's replacing the
legend here and praise is getting plenty of love and
earned it.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
You.

Speaker 9 (08:03):
I mean, so think think about the names and the
people that are doing damage.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
For the pitching staff.

Speaker 9 (08:10):
And the bullpen and on the offensive side. And there's
been plenty of times this year and I could argue
that just as many I'd have to go, look where
the back end of the lineup has been as productive
as the front end. Pain has been sensational, and the
front side will get going. But while they're not a

(08:31):
lot of times well they're not going well. Most people
have to deal with seven eight nine. Don't do what
this seven eight nine's done pretty damn well from six
through nine at times, depending on how Joe's managed and
manipulated the lineup. Most can't when you're when you're a
big stars struggle, you may get the eighth guy going
on a little bit of a run, but it's not

(08:51):
I mean, it's to the point where you're like saying,
I'm counting on Jake Myers, I'm counting on Cam Smith.
You were hoping about Jay Myers, and you were hope
these are not these were hope guys, hope the rookie
comes through early, Hope he turns into being a superstar,
that we're not bringing him here too soon, which obviously
we know that answer you're not the kid's phenomenal. Jake Myers, Well,

(09:13):
hope he hits two twenty five and plays great defense.
Hope outs I mean, you start to go through a
bunch of hopes. Well, hope that we can at least
get a little bit of stuff from paradis. The only
hope that's not exceeded the hope to the word it's like,
damn his first base, and hopefully he'll get going because
we didn't hope that Christian. We kind of had a
good idea Christian Marker was going to here to do

(09:34):
this thing. Now, where the hope? But think about where
the where the the trusted production has been coming from
on the staff? Well, hey, what are you gonna do? Well,
you know, this guy's pretty good. That guy's pretty good. Oh,
you're not talking about Farmer and Hunter Brown or Javier
and Garcia. You're not talking about Verlander when he was here.
You're not talking about JP franch and no, no, no,
I'm talking about three guys that had absolutely no idea

(09:56):
in the starting pitching staff that this was going to
be their role this sh year, and here we go.
So don't most good teams in all sports find a
couple other guys that have career years. Jake Myers is
having the time of his life right now, Oh, no

(10:16):
question about it. So you know what, and it stands
to mention that these guys probably sometimes you get tired
of hearing. You never know when they're going to have
to rear their head. And nothing but credit to those
who've you know, just have up their game man at
a time what it's been needed, especially offensively, and that's

(10:36):
back to back games and double digits. You'll take twenty
four runs in two games. You're not losing to anybody
that way, especially a team that will should not beat you.

Speaker 8 (10:45):
Twenty hits last night from the Astros, and I mean
you bring up Jake Myers and you know, just to
continue this theme of the bottom of the order that
had been a problem the last couple of years on
the Astros. I mean, even when they won in twenty two,
you got Martine Mauldon in there. So you're batting with
eight because Mark Maldonado, if you got a hit that
was a bonus, were celebrating, Yeah you were, And if

(11:07):
he knocked in a run, the same deal. But I
mean you're getting to the point here where you've got
tough abs all the way through. And Myers is one
of those guys. He ain't chasing like he used to.
He's not swinging to missing like he used to.

Speaker 9 (11:20):
Listen, we've had there was talk these last couple of
years about taking a guy who was a good hitter,
like in the sixth hole or the fivefle and moving
him down to the seven or eight hole so they
could have like putting pain in the eight hole, so
they could have a guy who could give you some
production here heading to the top of the lineup for
Altuve to the point where you were willing to because
the back orderla was take a guy who's having success

(11:42):
and move them down, no matter regardless who the name
of the person talked about it. We've had callers, let's
move this guy down, put him at eight or nine
and where they're struggling so much so we have some
at least some arsenal at the bottom of the order.
And now you're saying, now we're good here, thanks Smith
and Myers, we're doing just fine, thank you.

Speaker 6 (12:02):
Or when du bonds in the lineup, we're good.

Speaker 9 (12:04):
You guys, go ahead and just tinker with the upper
part where Diez is hitting in the two hole, in
the five hole, or he's sitting in the four aisle
two days leading off, No, he's hitting two. Now he's
sitting three and then uh oh, no, we're gonna put
paradus in the four hole or the three hole, of
the two hole or it just you guys, go ahead
the tinker there. We're good here at eight nine. It's

(12:25):
a pretty good problem to have. No, Definitely, you know
we got to come off the bench, So go grab
that dude who's a backup catcher and he'll just getch
you three hits.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
Yeah, so it is. It's the.

Speaker 9 (12:36):
I guess that's why we call it a team, man,
because your guys are going to go through struggles. There's
going to come a time with seven, eight and nine
don't hit, couldn't hit water if they fell out of
a boat, And that's when those other guys are going
to have to go ham on the rest of the
league and do what the Astros normally do at the
top of.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
The batting order.

Speaker 8 (12:54):
It's a shout out Josh Lodesma a polo, does you
know he? And forget the guy that he does the
podcast with and they were talking about Victor Carrottini. Well,
last night about a week or two ago, and they
called him a professional hitter. Remember who he used to
call professional hitter? Yeah, Michael Brantley. So then they said,
all right, now it's uncle Vic.

Speaker 6 (13:15):
Is that what called me? Uncle Vick? I like that? Yeah, yeah,
I'll take that.

Speaker 9 (13:20):
Is there a great well professional hitter kind of goes
to the solid ball striker very much? Yeah, I'm saying
he puts together a good appy he's he he's a
what do we just call him?

Speaker 6 (13:31):
What did you say? They called him? What? A professional professional? There?

Speaker 9 (13:33):
That's right, because Brantley was It was like almost it's
like Chris Berman and the Raiders. He couldn't say Raiders
without saying he honestly, he couldn't say, hey, Chris, how
you doing.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
Who's who's playing tonight? He goes, it's the it'll be
the charge. He's just like, he couldn't say Raiders. Nobody
like talking to him, And all of a sudden, the
camera goes on to live show. He just finished put
his time on.

Speaker 9 (13:58):
He's frantic trying to get this dude, I've done it, dude,
cry and laughing, and we're like five seconds away from
a live show. Fixes the last time puts it on,
gets his jacket and he's pissed and frustrated because he
could running behind, but he's had to get.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
His script done, and he was.

Speaker 9 (14:12):
That's how Chris operated, just like he was on the air,
right excitable and all of a sudden, man that camera,
come on here, Sean, we gotta get this right. Hey,
can I get this script special?

Speaker 6 (14:23):
There'sday edition of Monday Night Football. This is Thursday, and
he it's the chart. He's in the d whenever Oakland
or la whatever, and he couldn't do it. It's the
same thing here.

Speaker 9 (14:36):
You can't say Michael Brantley without putting professional hitter professional.
But it also goes to, hey, did you know that
there's a guy on tour we said he's a solid
ball striker. Yeah, Scotty Scheffler, the one hundred and fortieth guys.
He's a solid ball striker. He knows how to square
off the club and so he's a professional hitter.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (14:56):
I would say so by the very definition of playing
in pro sports. But I know why we do it,
but it's so funny. Tony Gwyn professional Hill, professional hitter,
Wade Bogs. Have you ever noticed professional hitters are usually
left handed hitters.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
Yeah, usually they match.

Speaker 9 (15:10):
The left handed hitters are always crafty and KG veteran,
crafty lefty, right, So if you're an old, trusty veteran
KG high motor guy and wiley, right, he's a wiley veteran.

Speaker 10 (15:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (15:23):
He's speaky fast. Oh yeah, there's no doubt, sneaky long.
You're a golfer that's short. You're five to nine and
one sixty and you pusted it three twenty. It's like
I'm telling you what, he'll bring the course to his knees.
He's sneaky long. But it's just funny how we label
it and we can't get it out of our without
saying it right. It's almost like our go to crutch
and it's classic. But Victor Krattini is by very definition

(15:46):
a professional hit damn good one. Yeah, it's a good point.
Now we're calling him Uncle Vic, Uncle Vick. I actually
like that. Shirts should be made.

Speaker 8 (15:52):
No shout out, shout out of Paul DEAs. I think
they're probably on it.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
They do the.

Speaker 9 (15:57):
March, they're pretty much out in front of all that.
Oh very much, very much. So he's good golfer too.
By the way, we've had we played. He's a good player.
Got some baseball hands you okay, good player, So solid
ball strike.

Speaker 6 (16:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (16:09):
We had some laughs of stupidity of course too, which
is exactly the way it's supposed to be.

Speaker 8 (16:13):
Absolutely no, it's nobody wants to play with the stiff.
That's that's that's.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
One thing we it'll be hard to turn if that
was the case. Yeah, Danny boy, Yeah, you don't. You don't.
You know when you're stiff. You know that takeaway.

Speaker 9 (16:25):
If you're stiff, it's hard to fire the right side of.

Speaker 6 (16:31):
Baseball hands. Simple lesson, hands.

Speaker 9 (16:34):
Out of the golf ball with the iron when you're
playing irons, hands behind the golf ball with the driver.
If you can apply that lesson, you'll be a well,
a solid ball.

Speaker 6 (16:42):
Strike, a solid ball striker, and don't get stiff in
any way, shape or form when you're trying to turn
and unload.

Speaker 9 (16:51):
I hit a high cut. I don't know, a power
draw whatever, what do you what's your shot shape?

Speaker 6 (16:56):
I am not.

Speaker 8 (16:58):
I'd probably a little bit more of a fade to.
It's this little lob fade kinda guy A little bit. Yeah,
I get I get good launch angle, nice, nice, nice, Yeah,
so nice got that going.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
For golf course.

Speaker 9 (17:09):
There's a lot of golf courses are set up for
the right hander hitting hitting the cut shot.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
Yeah, nice, I like your style.

Speaker 8 (17:14):
So that's h That's the way it usually goes, Anthony
deer Park. See you right there. You want to join
Anthony seven one three, two, one two five seven ninety
Over the course of the show too, I mean clearly,
you know I bleed Purple and gold.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
I don't know if you saw the end of that
College World Series game. I did see it.

Speaker 9 (17:29):
Purple and Gold was very relevant and prevalent across the
country last night. It was on the West coast for
about ten bill and to the World Series on a
heartbreaker Arkansas.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
God love you man.

Speaker 9 (17:43):
He's that poor baseball dude. It's almost like you know
it's coming. You can't get two balls off clubs to lose,
to lose a trip to the College World Series and
good on Coastal Carolina, which is a hell of a
baseball problem.

Speaker 8 (17:54):
Absolutely, it is absolutely so. Uh yeah, you mentioned the Lakers.
That's obviously topic of mind in the news, and the
Texans making a signing yesterday. We'll talk about all of
that much more, but continue the Astros conversation because I
wasn't at his best, but still count on it. When
it comes to this guy, we'll talk about it right here.
It is a Sean Salisbury show getting going on Thursday,

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Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Let's go on.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 9 (18:24):
You know they clearly let's yeah, there was my la
la la lu So you just need the pitch pipe.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
Oh, exacts exactly right.

Speaker 8 (18:31):
That's what I always love, like whenever people are going
to sing the national anthem somewhere and you know they're
doing the announcement please welcome Grammy Award and you see
him and they go the whole pitchpipe Like I'm like,
come on, man, like, no, that's not a hit of
a bong or a rape.

Speaker 9 (18:45):
It's the pitch pipe. Yeah yeah, I but it is
ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, eight time Grammy Award win here. Yeah,
Houston's own. Yeah, that'd be one of those, you know
for a pa guy. I mean, I've got a little
bit of petty to me, and uh, I think that
if Clay Walker were to do it, because you know,
that's always the joke around here. If it's a big game,

(19:07):
Oh he's singing clay Walker, and I think I would
probably no surprise used to zone clay Walker for the
seventy fifth time in three years, he will sing the
national anthem, Ladies and gentlemen, five time Grammy Award winner
Clay Walker, and you got to change your voice.

Speaker 8 (19:25):
And a right, yeah, I mean it sounds like that,
you know, like guys like Alan Roach and all of
them are Matt Thomas, you know when he when he
was doing the PA. But in Atlanta when I worked there,
it was always the Zach brown Band. Oh what a surprise.
The Zach brown Band is so Atlanta and Zach brown
Man were sitting it was if it was if it
was a massive like Falcons playoff game or Braves Most
season game.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
Yeah, yeah, it was the Zach brown Bear.

Speaker 9 (19:47):
Yeah, there's it feels like some just are a like
the Quincy Jones, Jamee Ingram, they come on the first.
You're right, ladies and gentlemen, to sing the national land
for the twenty fifth time here at the Fabulous Forum.
Please welcome fifteen time Grammy winner James Ingram. Yeah you
know what I'm saying, right, Laker girls, Lawrence Tanner, Dad

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sitting Berry. He's gonna have a new boss there pretty soon. Yeah,
you sure is the tune? And it ain't that far
down the road, No, it's not, no matter of fact,
extremely close.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
Mind.

Speaker 9 (20:21):
You pop on the freeway, go up, hang a left
and get up there to the tap of Shavez ra
mein and you can damn damn you're stared down at uh, well,
the team he's about to own for ten bill, biggest
purchase in American sports history.

Speaker 6 (20:35):
At jeez man, when it comes to franchise.

Speaker 8 (20:38):
I like, when I saw that number thrown out last night,
I was just like, what is that like?

Speaker 6 (20:43):
To sign that check?

Speaker 8 (20:45):
Like I remember a buddy of mine had interviewed when
he obviously he was soul alive Bob McNair about signing
the check to buy the Texans, and it's just like,
what is that like?

Speaker 9 (20:56):
Yeah, it's probably I mean, I doubt it's to check.
It's probably a direct deposit. But if it is, you'd
want to get a fake one anyway, just so you
could say, well, you broke the franchise record. But you know,
doctor Buss bought the Lakers for just under seventy million,
and I think it was Jack Kent Cook at the time.

(21:19):
Obviously at the Washington Redskins owner as well. And I
can make the argument when Doc Buss bought them. And
I mean this sincerely and no disrespect to the Celtics
or any other franchise football, basketball, or baseball. Yankees included
for their great run of history Edmonton Euler's Boston Bruins.
You know whatever it is football who at Pittsburgh Steelers Cowboys,

(21:41):
We've never had the trifecta of Doctor Jerry Buss, Jerry West,
and pat Riley. To me, in my eyes, that's the
greatest one two three combo in America in sports. That
that from owner now you can name, you know, I'm

(22:02):
talking about the relationship the way they did it, Owner
Jerry Buss, while he was hands on when it came
to basketball decisions, Jerry West may very well be the
best GM we've ever had in any sport. And pat Riley,
well he was pretty good, right, not bad, But they
all had and they all kind of changed the way
things went at their Doctor Buss. Let me tell you something,

(22:24):
sitting in a doctor bus. Sweet when you're a college
and you're in your twenties or your college age and
you go sitting doctor bus, the sweet who became a
dear friend. He's a USC guy and Genie I've known
her forever. USC lady as well is Doc Bus. He
invited you. I remember my recruiting trip. I got to
go to the Forum and sit with him because he's

(22:46):
a big supporter and we forged a friendship and so
I get tickets and go. I don't even know if
you were allowed to as a player that nowadays they
beat car even and you'd sit in Doctor Buss's box. Dude,
if you can't pull there, you can't pull club you

(23:11):
got and if you both, if you can't pull it
either way.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
I mean, it's but it's true.

Speaker 9 (23:16):
And you know you've heard the reputation and I mean
Doctor Buss was awesome. But you walk in there and
it was like a Wednesday night at the Fabulous Form.
It's like this is the greatest, it's the place to be,
absolutely and it was this and that was all that
then the Fabulous the Forum clubs.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
Were Tony Dan's a hockey guy, and you start at
that age you're like, you're you're kind of right, You're
intrigued by who's that There's it's the exactly you never
knew it was going to walk in there, right, and
you're like it's like overwhelming because you're like, I'm nineteen,
but this is really cool here the celebrities. You're like,
I've seen that guy.

Speaker 9 (23:53):
I just watched, Oh that guy, that guy, But doctor
Buss is sitting in his suite which was the size
of the section.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
It was awesome.

Speaker 9 (24:01):
But he did it the right I mean, how he
ran his life like that's fine, but he was sign checks,
did the right thing, made smart business decisions and knew
what his limits were basketball ways Jerry West did his
and he knew what he didn't want to cross over
to pat Riley world. When pat Riley was a budding
young star of a coach and was then he became
the GQ guy, I mean and win. So he added

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that flavor to it, the whole thing. There's never been
that track factor better. And then they won and they won,
and they won and they won, and showtime became a
big deal and the Lakers became well they've always had
a historic franchise and blue blood franchise, but they just
when Magic and Abdul Jabbar, then the star power kicked in.
It was and pat Riley was part of the star
Power the best ever ten billion dollars. Dude, it's that's

(24:47):
a big you're talking about ROI from sixty seven mil.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
That's pretty impressive.

Speaker 8 (24:51):
Pat Riley the inspiration for one Gordon Gecko. Michael Douglas
once and N interviews said, oh, pat Riley, that's the look.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
Yeah. Like suits.

Speaker 9 (25:01):
Yeah, we all want to know where to get the
where do you get those that gel at?

Speaker 6 (25:05):
Yeah? That it makes it hold.

Speaker 9 (25:07):
It always shiny, and it took off and it wasn't
they covered sometimes it's a lot of cosmetic stuff, but
they had substance.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
That team did it all. Yeah, remember the Aviators the
victory celebration.

Speaker 8 (25:19):
Next year, we're gonna do it again. Yeah what Yeah,
looking to his left really quick.

Speaker 9 (25:23):
Absolutely, it was good times in Los Angeles because the
Dodgers were winning time as well, so were we at SC.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
It was a good time. Yeah. Going to a Laker
game was an event. Brother. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (25:35):
Still, but you know what that impressionable at twenty you're like,
oh my gosh.

Speaker 8 (25:39):
And again you know, speaking of inspiration, I mean for
everything that you see in sports entertainment now, I mean
dance teams, all of that. You know that the music
in the Arena show. Yeah, Lakers, that's where I mean
teams would go there and see and be like, we
can do this, we should do this at our games.
So congrats to the Lakers.

Speaker 9 (25:59):
But it's it's definitely uh a his it's historic because
it's no longer in the Bus family. It's been the
Bus fan for a long time.

Speaker 8 (26:06):
After watching Winning Time on HBO, which if you haven't
watched either season, it's awesome. It's so good is I
If I ever met Jeanie Buss, I'd want to ask,
does anybody still call you Genie Beanie? Because that's what
John c Riley as as Jerry Buss, that's what he
called her.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
Yeah, I feel kind of awkward. I feel like I'd
have to build up to that, like you'll just come out,
maybe hang out with here a couple of times. Yeah,
how's how's Jay doing? Because her and j Moore?

Speaker 9 (26:33):
Yeah, so yep, Bill Jackson, Jay Moore and Jay and
her been together for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no
doubt ye as uh Clanton posted the other day he's
good buddies with more and he once signed it, you know,
shout out sugar or something like that. So yeah, they
got a good relationship and they've been, like said, dating
for quite some time, known each other for a long time.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
As well, there you go, there you go.

Speaker 8 (26:55):
Good for them, Anthony, We'll get you in Astro's conversation.
Let's do it as they went last night eleven to
four fromer so, so we'll talk about him right here.
It is see Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven to ninety.
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Speaker 6 (27:13):
Morning, Anthony, how you doing. Hey, Good morning guys. Hey.

Speaker 11 (27:18):
So, if at the end of last season, if somebody said,
hey man, you're you're not gonna have Alex Bregman, You're
not gonna have Kyle Tucker, your right fielder is gonna
have played at Florida State last year. Second base is
gonna be by committee, and you're gonna be filling in
three fifths of your rotation kind of by committee. But

(27:38):
you're gonna be in second place in the American League
and leading the al Wes by.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
Five and a half games.

Speaker 11 (27:46):
I would have taken that ten times out of ten,
and you like, there's no explanation other than this is
just what the astros do and like, and I got
bad news for the for the fire Joey Spot of guys.
If this continues, Joe's Spot is going to be al
manager of the Year and it's not even going to
be close.

Speaker 9 (28:05):
You know what, Anthony, Joe's Spott is going to get
a pay raise and he's not going anywhere, and he's
doing it. He's doing it good. He's in year two
as a manager. So we want to fire people when
they have one mistake. If that was the case with players,
we'd be cutting them all and the saying you're you're
one hundred percent correct. And I think he's won a
lot of people over me included I always wanted if
all these years, isn't you know, as a bench coach
and being around, why hasn't he been a manager? Well,

(28:27):
then he gets it because I'm a Dusty fan and
always happened, And he gets it and goes in there
and has to deal with the stuff he deals with
my call managers doing Bam, here you are and they
keep it rolling, and then getting down to sit down
with him, you gain a great appreciation on him. Secondly,
about that, we were talking about this earlier this week
and I think yesterday and even maybe with Dana Brown,
all these things that you just mentioned I was talking
about too, and you said you'd take twelve games over

(28:49):
five hundred first place. Now do this one, Anthony, I
said yesterday, just like you did with all those I said,
but if we had Jordan, no injuries to the pitching staff,
Bregman and Tuck are gone, but all this stuff but healthy.
Your pitching staff's healthy, and everything's the same, and Jordan's Rake,
And like you normally would hitting in a three hole,

(29:10):
I would still take the record they have now. I
would take the record they have now with a healthy team,
let alone. Now we'd all want twenty two games over
five hundred, but I would take that record seventy two
seventy three games in now with a healthy team, let
alone with all these people that weren't expected to dominate
or help when the season started. And joeas Body is

(29:31):
the manager of the year in the American League right
now period.

Speaker 11 (29:35):
Absolutely, And to be just to be able to do this,
like you said, without the one of the best hitters
in the world and all the talent is I mean,
if you look at the Yankees roster, I hate the
Yankees as much as the next guy. But these guys
should be in first place in the American League, and
it really shouldn't even be close. But for Joey Spotted

(29:57):
to just be able to sceer this ship like this,
with all all of the injuries and things that he's
had to overcome, I mean, it's just unexplainable other than
this is just what the Astros do, no doubt about it.

Speaker 8 (30:10):
Appreciate the call, Anthony. I mean, it's been a great
job by him. It's been an amazing job by Dana Brown.
And also, I mean guys that you wouldn't even expect.
I mean Victor Carrottini, he had a nice year last year.
Do you necessarily expect what he did last year to
be able to carry over to this season.

Speaker 12 (30:25):
No.

Speaker 8 (30:26):
I mean sometimes guys have a good season, but then
you know they're two fifty to forty guys in their
career for a reason, so you expect them to be
more of that than they were last year.

Speaker 9 (30:36):
And he's continued to be good, there's no doubt guys
out of the pen, and he seems to be a
great teammate too. Kartine, I'm gonna tell you this, Victor carrotin.
He's a starting catcher in plenty of other places. We
have a starting catcher who's the backup on this roster.
Good place to be is he is wholeheartedly, unequivocally. I
can roll through the roster and I bet you, I'll

(30:56):
bet you there's ten starting catchers in Major League Baseball
minimum that this guy, when you take offense defense together,
that this guy be starting on their roster. I do,
I think, and even last year in watching him, just
the way he handled clutch moments at the right time,
to me, that's just that's DNA stuff.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Man.

Speaker 9 (31:16):
Yeah, good he sometimes you have a bad good bet,
but the DNA is the ability not to stay down
long and not to He doesn't seem to get overly excited.
I think he expects that he's gonna hit anyway, so
he didn't over celebrate as a backup, you know, boo
the inner. I think he just I think he believes
he's a starting catcher in this league and a damn
good player. He just stuck on a roster that's got
a superstar potential ahead of him who's young.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (31:39):
You know, for me, if you really, if you wanted
to get an asset the thing and you said some
team was like down a catcher or a little struggle,
but needed Let's just say, although it wouldn't have cal
Raley who said, hell, twenty seven twenty eight homes is
going haywire in the first half of the scene. Let's
just say, and I know it's in the same division,

(32:00):
have but a guy like that, han't that goes down
and you're a good team. You tell me that you
couldn't get some assets for Victor Carrottini right now. I
don't want to move him. Don't misunderstand me, but you
start to say, okay, where can I go? That gives
me production at the plate has been on a winning atmosphere.
Can can do anything for I can move him first base?
It could DH if I need him too.

Speaker 6 (32:21):
Whatever. And here's a good teammate, dude, I'm.

Speaker 9 (32:23):
Telling you now that the tea he's one of those guys.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
Say well, you're standing in the line for Victor Kartini. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (32:30):
Why, those guys are hard to come by, who give
you some good offense and some solid defense. May I
win a gold Glove, but solid enough and seems to
understand the handling of pitching staffs. So it's names like
that that in the law is as long as the
big boppers get their minutes and do their thing, doesn't
mean MVP, but do their thing with this pitching and

(32:52):
guys like Keratina who come into the job and when
Chaz is right, and you add the Dezenzo and the
depth that we didn't know we were going to have
at the beginning of the year because of a lot
of youth of the the youth was going to be
most of the depth not named Dubon and Kartini, and
we actually thought that Jake Myers at some point was
going to be part of that. Well, he's sitting in
center field daily and rightfully so it's a pretty amazing

(33:15):
And as a caller said, in truth, maybe it does
simply come down when you can't explain something the it
fact or whatever is. Maybe it just comes down to
when you get to an organization that there's something different
about showing up here.

Speaker 8 (33:30):
Capable catchers and good scouting have a ten to fifteen
year career. You can hit brother and you can start
and play back them in multiple positions.

Speaker 6 (33:40):
You can pick and choose where you want to go.
There is no doubt easily.

Speaker 9 (33:44):
That's why a power hitting catcher with a hose that
can play defense and pop in high school baseball. He's
not getting out of the first five picks.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
You get one of those, brother, don't ever let it
get close to free agency.

Speaker 9 (33:57):
And if you're think about it, three two or six
and twenty pound catcher who's got power to good high
school hit hit number hit four in his high school
lineup and power, but a good hitter, not just a
power hitter, and plays defense like Johnny Bench a little overboard.

Speaker 6 (34:15):
You get my point, can glove it great arm.

Speaker 9 (34:18):
Those guys you're drafting, you're saying, well, I don't really
need a catcher in my organization, Say, yeah, I think
I do.

Speaker 8 (34:24):
Well, remember what I said about pitchers. They're like offensive
and defensive lineman. Catchers are in the same role. And
well we didn't need one with Yaner d Is because
we had Corey Lee, right right, yeah, right right, sore
those dudes.

Speaker 9 (34:36):
Yeah, it's like like you say, it's like good great offense,
white edge rushers.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
You never have dbs, You never have enough of them.
So I got that guy.

Speaker 9 (34:44):
So if you're not teaching your kid to golf or
play one of those, they're tennis or one of those sports.
Put a catcher's glove in their house, especially guts, and
you get that arm right, that pop right, and work
on them. And if you're left handed, Joe Mauer and
your right handed catcher even better with power, they'll play
forever and they'll have a free first round draft ticket
if they produce at all in high school baseball.

Speaker 8 (35:06):
Ye know what's your son? Now, he's right handed? What
position does he play? First base? You want him to
get a college scholarship. If you want him to do
all those things, go buy him catcher's gear and put
him behind the plane.

Speaker 9 (35:15):
If he happens to have prodigious power from the left
hand side with a right and he's a right hand
kucher with an arm yep to reserve a scholarship and
a whole bunch of bonus money for him, because it's
coming business decision, bro, No doubt.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
That's what it is, No doubt.

Speaker 8 (35:30):
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Speaker 9 (35:57):
Let's just say fifty percent, and she'll still be the
city governor. Yes, right, So there's that. That means it's
a bus is still involved Laker wise, which is you
know for LA fans, they love that. Yeah, and I
get it. Continuity, Yeah, of course, And that's a good
smart by her to stay involved and then get paid.
But he be able to stay involved with your belove franchise,

(36:18):
your post. That's why she was making nice, you know,
with with Lebron, you know, staying stay in, staying keep
the stars happy.

Speaker 6 (36:24):
Yeah. I wonder what.

Speaker 9 (36:25):
Doc Bus if I if we got Genie on. Sure,
she's quite busy right now, but ten billion reasons why.
But I would imagine I would ask her one of
my first questions, what would your dad say about what
he would be?

Speaker 6 (36:40):
So what do you approve of this?

Speaker 8 (36:41):
Because that's the thing is like, you know, for for Jeanie,
Southern California, all of that very savvy.

Speaker 9 (36:47):
The closest bus and I did from Jimmy Bus the
whole of the family, the closest bus to the shrewdness,
but also the popularity.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
She gets it, there's no doubt. So like Jeannie was like.

Speaker 9 (37:01):
Another you know what I'm saying that you know that
relationship she wanted. She was the shrewd basketball picking her.
She's got a great business mind. We'll make decisions, but
she's got a smart business mind. She was, she is
exactly her pops in her are so close when it
comes to their passion for it as well. If the
buses were the Duttons, she would be Casey. There's no question,

(37:23):
absolutely no question that. There's just that there was a
special bond between and I'm sure he had it with
his kids, but I saw more with those two because
I saw them more together. And it was always inevitable
that I thought that Genie who was a good business
she'd been involved in other businesses along the way, obviously
watching her dad handle business, that you knew at some
point she was going to run the Lakers, and that's
been her passion for, among other things, you know, in

(37:46):
sports and business for a long time. She loves the Lakers.
But so ten billion, I'm doing the mass. So let's
say she owned seventy percent, so that's that would be
seven billion dollars. I'm just saying, whatever it is. Say
you're gonna walk away from this, and you've been making
a lot of money anyway as an owner of a franchise,

(38:06):
but you walk away from this and it's like, look
what's built?

Speaker 6 (38:10):
Seven billion?

Speaker 9 (38:11):
Ten billion though on the on the sixty seven or
sixty eight million that it was purchased for from doctor Buss.
If you were ever going to get ROI, that's it.
That's why I always say buying a pro sports franchise
is if they're worth ten billion. Now what's the Cowboys
value right now? Fifteen? Probably fifteen billion if the sign
if somebody offered you twelve, you'd say, I'm not taking

(38:31):
it because you know what I'll dangling out there's somebody
like a Bezos, somebody's gonna jump in or musk and
give you three billion more because it's really not on
their bottom line. It's the interest the next two months
that they're going to get paid back on it. The
money they got three hundred billion sitting in some bank,
right so they're the interest. A loan is going to
take care of that extra. Oh I'm overpaying by three billion.

(38:51):
You want the Cowboys or not ten billion for a
basketball franchise, which is the Lakers obviously.

Speaker 6 (38:57):
But I just wanted to, you know, the take after that.

Speaker 9 (38:58):
I was like when you said, when depositor with that check,
look like, think about how you'd like.

Speaker 6 (39:03):
Take a picture. Hey, could you give me.

Speaker 9 (39:04):
The paperwork that that that. I just want the paperwork
framed of. Hey, what if you're the bank and it's
coming through. Oh, you're like, hey, I just sold a
company for ten billion dollars, expect the wire's coming? Hey, uh,
it's a ten ninety nine right, gen Yeah what just came?
Oh seven billion just rolled through the wire. I don't

(39:25):
do you have to warn people that's coming? Oh yeah,
we'll take it. I would think I would imagine her
in her business. Shit, it's it's it's a conglomerate running it.
At the very least, it's an email. Let's say you
and I sold a business and made a billion dollars.
I mean, just you know what I'm saying, just just
average dudes, we sell that for a billion dollars. I know,
like what it's it goes through a whole bunch of
places and it gets to the big bank in the

(39:46):
sky where there's four hundred people watching over the money.
I get it, But for you and I, it's like
just normal dud in. You happen to build a business
and somebody offering you to sell it, and then you
tell your banker, well there's a pretty good deposit coming in.
It's a wire and then they send you a I say,
your wires here for two billion dollars. What do you
do if you're the bank person, I just want to see,

(40:08):
like hit the ATM machine, take out one hundred bucks
and say, well, the account bolls seven billion, three hundred
and twenty seven million, four hundred and fifty eight dollars
and seventy four cents. So I don't know what that
looks like, but i'd sure could.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 9 (40:22):
I'd do it in silence, but there'd be signs as
they say, oh right, yeah, little by little, I'd let
you know, yeah without letter, you know, right. But it's
just I always wonder, and you know, when you're around money,
I guess that's not a big give when you think
about what that deposit's going to look like, and that
you can write the check for ten billion in cash
to buy the Lakers. Now, those business people are smart,

(40:44):
they'll leverage somebody else's money. I get that, but that
you have the ability to say, is it Genie with
two ends or one?

Speaker 6 (40:52):
Right? Yeah? Yeah, and it's ten billion. It'll be their
business day by the end of five five o'clock, wire
processing and all of that. I don't think it's taking long.

Speaker 9 (41:03):
Oh no, No, it's with it, and it's quick, and
it's urgent, and it's about it just as fast as
you could put your name on a And it ain't
Docu signed. He's making the trip over to Lakervilla. They're
meeting for a nice lunch in a private room, and
you're gonna see it, and it's gonna say ten with
a whole bunch of commas and zeros.

Speaker 8 (41:18):
There's probably about ten layers of lawyers and a counts
that are signing it.

Speaker 6 (41:22):
Then you give it to the pen bros.

Speaker 8 (41:24):
That's one of those, you know, it's like one of
those fancy you know, you know, fancy portfolios.

Speaker 6 (41:29):
Yeah, it's it's being passed down.

Speaker 9 (41:32):
The Lakers sold trumps.

Speaker 8 (41:35):
Well, I think I think that would be one of
those too, you know, how like whenever he signs an
executive order and he'll hold it up, hold it up.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
Yes, that's one of those. The lake Genie Bus. How
would he say it to gen?

Speaker 8 (41:45):
Congratulations to gen Bus and family.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
Jerry father, great great man, great man. You know he's
a huge Laker guy.

Speaker 8 (41:57):
Noah, but uh it's still a great man's lot.

Speaker 9 (42:01):
What did he say when Gillis he says something that
he says like it's big, it's the biggest.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
Air say, but the deal, it's a.

Speaker 8 (42:07):
Big deal, Yeah, he say, he said, it's almost one
of those like he describes it. But it's almost like
he has to describe it himself.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
Right, it's a big deal. It's the biggest. It's the biggest.
It's the biggest we've ever seen. Ten billion, Brother, ten billion.

Speaker 8 (42:21):
I was gonna say, I think it's express supposit, No,
no doubt about it.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
Bill. See you right there.

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Speaker 8 (45:22):
In on the phone line seven one three two one
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Speaker 10 (45:33):
Hey, good morning gentlemen.

Speaker 6 (45:34):
Day Sean left half hour.

Speaker 12 (45:35):
You said something almost gave me a chill because I
heard the very same thing from a Hall of Fame
football coach when I was back in Indiana who's also
a Hall of Fame baseball empire. He told me the
exact same thing you said. This was thirty plus years ago.
The most efficient way to get to college for a
young athlete, whether you're wherever you're starting out is teach

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them how to be a catcher or put a.

Speaker 10 (45:57):
Golf clb in your hand.

Speaker 6 (45:58):
Right.

Speaker 12 (46:00):
That was in the nineties, he said that, because then
in Anaia schools Division three, Division two people, those schools
would throw all sorts of offers for an academic to
get those kids. Nobody else wanted, nobody wanted to do
what he did. Nobody did right. And I don't know
if it still holds today. Maybe it still does because

(46:21):
there's so much of those programs. Some of those programs
have been eliminated, especially like golf and things like that,
wrestling and other programs. But man, if you got a
stud catcher, whether she's a boy or girl softball, baseball,
or if you can afford to start a young kid
out playing golf, if you want a way into a
college for sure where people colleges are coming for you,

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those are the two ways to do.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
And the third way I'm bill your spot.

Speaker 9 (46:45):
I've been that that feeling since I played for thirty
forty years as well.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
I've always and I still do.

Speaker 9 (46:52):
It may not hold as true as it did for
the structure of the way it's set up, but the
fact still remain. If I'm a catcher at my size
six five two thirty playing and I started out as
a catcher, and I can hit for power, and I
got a great arm, I'm I'm a I'm a first

(47:12):
round pick waiting to happen on potential alone, and if
you're productive and in golf. Obviously we know that. The
third one is if you can punter kick, if you're
a great field goal kicker, not only that you could
play forever. Hell a sneaky one while you're in the league.
Learned a long snap, Yeah, because those guys will last
for twenty years. David Ben who was a David Ben

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who was my long snapper in San Diego when I
was holding for John Carty. David Ben, I think got
sixteen seventeen, fifteen good years in and one of the
great guys ever. David Ben was about two thirty two
twenty snapping center snapping. He would he never played a
snap linebacker when I was there. He'd snapped for seven
one career. That's a great career.

Speaker 6 (47:53):
And I I rarely Bill and Dan had had to
flip the laces. Ben was awesome.

Speaker 9 (47:59):
He was the size of a running back now literally
and didn't have to play much linebacker. And I know
he wanted, but he had the best gig on the planet,
but he was damn good at it. He specializes. My
point in that doesn't mean you got to specialize in
one sport. I'm just he was great at that. So
but those two catcher a great catcher with potential in
size and a golfer that's been trained by the proper

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people growing up.

Speaker 6 (48:20):
If you can afford it's expensive.

Speaker 9 (48:22):
Those two not only will get you a scholarship, but
give you an unbelievable chance to continue to advance because
they're golf's hard.

Speaker 6 (48:30):
Catching is hard that a lot of.

Speaker 9 (48:32):
People don't want to crouch back there on a regular
base and take the time to put the effort in.
If you got that, kid, it's a meal ticket, buddy.
It still holds true and will until the end of
time in my opinion.

Speaker 12 (48:43):
Yeah, I think, because I know you're going to talk
about a spot in here in a minute.

Speaker 10 (48:47):
One other quick thing.

Speaker 12 (48:47):
I'll let you guys go. If as they say, if
they in a great phrase, If the season ended today,
Joe Aspata is a is a manager of the Year, agreed.
I don't care what anybody says, any league, for both leagues,
he is he should get the award. If the season
ended right now, he has managed of the year unquestioned,
should be runaway.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
Oh guys have a great bill.

Speaker 9 (49:08):
Before you go real quick. Yeah, I know Dan's good, good,
We've got stuff to do. But I the question of
Dan's got to talk about the you know, the Joe
Spota and Dana Brown what they've done. I'm just gonna
add to that. Why wouldn't you believe in what a
spot would lead you to believe that Dana Brown's not
good at his gig? If you didn't or Joe a spot,
why I'm looking for reasons? Okay, you're frustrated with Dana around?

(49:30):
Why because he doesn't give you all the inside injury
doctors report, if baseball related, what about him? Doesn't say
that he's done a good job?

Speaker 6 (49:39):
Nothing? There you go, and here's here's why. And I
don't want to eat a time.

Speaker 12 (49:44):
But people tend to now and Bay especially today, they
tend to look to to mic put the microscope on
the many failures.

Speaker 10 (49:51):
As opposed to all the positives.

Speaker 12 (49:53):
Right, I mean, everybody's gonna everybody's gonna point to this team.

Speaker 10 (49:55):
Goed Christian Walker.

Speaker 12 (49:56):
He has been a flop and and in my opinion,
he has been. But but you can't.

Speaker 6 (50:01):
Focus on it.

Speaker 12 (50:01):
Look at look at look at the body of work.
Quit focusing on the one obvious negative and look at
the body of work. They're doing it with bits and
pieces right now.

Speaker 10 (50:11):
So great stuff.

Speaker 9 (50:12):
Impressively. Appreciate you, Bill, I appreciate it, buddy. Great insight.

Speaker 6 (50:15):
Man.

Speaker 8 (50:15):
Well, I mean, and that's the thing is it just
kind of to Bill's point right there. There is no
perfect executive, there's no perfect manager, there's no perfect player.
Perfection just does not exist. And there are going to
be missteps along the way. And it's not to say
that Christian Walker is that guy. It's been disappointing to start,
but I mean, would you have.

Speaker 9 (50:34):
Gone out and got Christian Walker this offseason? Of course, absolutely, Okay,
he gets him by what you see, what everybody scouted,
all all the back stuff, the stuff that you see
going forward. Whether we think it's overpaid or not, but
most of us would have said, you've got a chance
to get Christian Walker, do it. Especially for first base.
It's been disappointed. Plus is Steve Sparks appointed early in

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the season. It's more hyper sensitive because you're new.

Speaker 6 (50:58):
On a team. If this slump happened in the middle
of the season when he started fast, we just say
it's baseball.

Speaker 9 (51:04):
A little tired boom comes in you get my point. So,
but the problem has been prolonged without the consistency. But
going to getting Christian Walker, not many said don't go
get that guy. Most did well.

Speaker 6 (51:16):
And with Joe Aspota, I mean, one of the things
that I've felt like is the best quality that he
has is not being reactionary. How many times could he
be reactionary?

Speaker 8 (51:25):
And oh, let's let let's bump Walker all the way down,
you know, to the six seventh spot in the lineup.
I've called for it, A lot of people have called
for it, but it's a no. You know what, this guy,
he's got the track record, he's proven he can do it.

Speaker 6 (51:40):
Let's give him a chance to be able to do it.

Speaker 9 (51:42):
Even with the ebbs and flows of baseball of you know,
questioning in the media and the fans and why this
and moving around the lineup?

Speaker 6 (51:50):
Is the guy or hating a call?

Speaker 9 (51:53):
It's almost that we joked with him during before you know,
at the fan fest it talked to him say can
we get can you get a little more emphatic on
getting kicked out?

Speaker 6 (52:02):
When we joked with about getting you Yeah, I need
to get big a better rejection.

Speaker 10 (52:05):
Right.

Speaker 9 (52:06):
The point is is that while all of us are
going heywire. You always want your manager to be pop
poise under pressure, right, and he really does. It's to
the point where you say, Joe, just just.

Speaker 6 (52:17):
Go get kicked out because we want to see the
optics right, all right, right? And he's calm, which at
times you may frustrate you. But wouldn't you rather have
that than tell a guy he's out a hand of
fifteen games a year, he's gonna get run.

Speaker 9 (52:27):
I like the fire. But Joe's poise, he sees, he
sees stuff that most of us would react on right now.
And the hent's why he's the manager you know, who
helps him out a lot with that. Kelvin Samson, Well,
no shock there. If you're going to lean on somebody,
why when you lean on that guy a lifetime of
experience in the business dealing with every single thing that

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you've had to deal with, the good, the bad, the
ugly and a lot of good, and the impact and
how to handle there's no different on how to handle
a basketball team. There is haw a baseball club. When
it comes to the basic fundamentals and values of an
order organization or a school, Kelvin Sampson knows pros and college.

Speaker 6 (53:04):
He's been in both.

Speaker 9 (53:05):
So Yeah, if you want to lean on somebody, you
don't have to go far to get to it. You
can be in his office in about twenty five minutes
and sitting there with a guy who's always willing to
have it open for you as well. Yeah, good person
to lean on, and he'll guarantee he's going to learn
valuable lessons just from how Calvin handles himself in those situations.

Speaker 8 (53:22):
Says he always sends the perfectly time message when it's
when it's positive, you know, if it's a doing great,
keep it going, even when he even when you know
the times are low, says he'll get one stay the course,
you're good.

Speaker 9 (53:38):
And in a different way, he's the reason I can
validate that I've had. I'll get a text from him
once in a while and it's simple and you're like,
the lessons learned from a guy who's has a lot
of good life lessons. And he's one of those guys
that when he tells you something, because he's not an
over talker, but he's real good at making you feel

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feel good. You know what I'm saying, even when even
when he may not know the situation he's got. He's
got a good timing award by Coach Sampson for sure,
and a great person to lean on because if you
want to know what rock bottom or hitting those, he
knows where that's at. And if you want to know
what the penhouses, he's been pretty close man a lot
of times. But he's in his career, he's been in
the Penn. He's just one of the better ones we have. Yeah,

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And so that's a good person to lean on. If
you're trying to get better and improve and and understand
how to lead, then that that's the number one thing
those guys in those positions have to do. And we
got a bunch of them in this town that are
pretty damn good at it.

Speaker 8 (54:35):
Just about to say the exact same thing. Pretty lucky
around here right now, So hopefully we can enjoy being
as lucky as we are with the leaders we got
of our teams. All Right, you want to get in
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Speaker 8 (57:04):
Sports TX seven ninety Astros last night here on seven
ninety winners eleven to four over the A's out there
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primary owner of the Dodgers, So owning up both of
the major sports attractions there out in LA good for
Mark Walters and good for the Bus family too. While
we're at it, speaking of spending a lot of money,
you got kids, and uh, they're all surely do they're
grown ups now. But I mean, I gotta believe that
there was a time where probably there were trips to Disneyland,

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disney World, any of those places out there, both of them.
So you went to both coasts. Okay, so you went
to Orlando and he went to Anaheim. Well, you're probably
familiar with the concept of a Prince Us breakfast or
where you can do.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
Where you could eat with one of yeah, the characters. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know you can.

Speaker 9 (58:06):
Get Disneyland Hotel and they come walking up to your
breakfast when you're eating biscuits and gravy.

Speaker 6 (58:10):
That's it.

Speaker 8 (58:10):
Yeah, so you know you get a picture with Mickey Goofy,
all of them. Well, John Rock and Roll Tolkien, I
guess is it's like JR.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
Tolkien.

Speaker 8 (58:20):
He posted about taking his kids to the Princess Breakfast
at Disneyland, and he writes, with a picture of the
receipt Princess Breakfast at Disneyland with my kids almost spit
out my coffee.

Speaker 6 (58:36):
Total price right? Oh god?

Speaker 8 (58:37):
Yes, total for he and his wife and two kids
nine hundred and thirty seven dollars and sixty five cents.
It was with the one hundred and fifty dollars tip included. Man,
I need to be a server at those damn things.

Speaker 9 (58:54):
Is that because the Princess is working and that that's
one hundred It's basically you're paying one hundred and fifty
dollars for a show. Oh yeah, I've been. I've been
sitting in there with kids. I know what it means.
They walk up to the table and I'll take a
picture with you. It's not like they're doing some show
and entertaining. You're the Disney breakfast are they're walking around
rabbit ears. They bring out your pancakes that look like

(59:14):
Mickey Mouse ears. I've seen it all. You had three
of them at different ages. You're you know, toggling between
Disneyland and disney World depending on the year.

Speaker 11 (59:23):
Right.

Speaker 9 (59:25):
Uh, it's absurd, dude, And I got news for you.
No offense. Well, if its fence is taken, it should
the breakfast ain't worth the powder.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
It takes the blown to helen back.

Speaker 9 (59:34):
Okay, So the breakfast you can get for four bucks,
I mean I can go get a moon over my
Hammy with Denny's for so. I mean, honestly, a better
breakfast it's gonna come out because it's the it's they're
just rolling them out right, or they're sitting in there.
It ain't like it's walking out and saying, you know what,
this is the best nine hundred dollars breakfast. I can
tell you what I better get for nine hundred dollars
and a breakfast.

Speaker 6 (59:54):
Okay, I'll leave it off there. If you're nine hundred
bucks at a breakfast, am I playing a gusta?

Speaker 9 (01:00:00):
The second I was going to say, going from breakfast
on a they're gonna take us in a van to Augusta. Yeah,
now we can serve me a pimento sandwich for all
I care. And by the way, it Augusta. That only
costs two bucks, right whatever it is. So yeah, it's
a ripoff. And you know they don't ever tell you
until they deliver the bill.

Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:00:17):
Oh, by the way, there's an extra one hundred and
fifty orwo hundred bucks because you're getting a picture with Goofy.

Speaker 6 (01:00:22):
Yeah, it's a ripoff, dude.

Speaker 8 (01:00:24):
According to Disney's website, the price for Disney's Princess Breakfast
Adventures is what they call it, one hundred and forty
two dollars a person. And kids can choose from chicken
and Mickey waffles you mentioned, Mickey Mouse ears, or housemade
mac and cheese and bacon. The adults can choose from

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options that include scrambled eggs, maple turkey, sausage with caramelized
pears and figs. Don't need that breakfast, deviled eggs, braise
short ribs with bisolmac sipoaloni, onion trufle mac and cheese,
and roasted rainbow carrots in a parsnip and celery root pree.

Speaker 6 (01:01:07):
Yeah, just what I want for breakfast is mac and cheese.

Speaker 8 (01:01:10):
I'm good with you know, asking, hey, is there a
waffle house around here for a lot cheaper.

Speaker 9 (01:01:16):
I was gonna say, but I'm going to do when
they say that it's for the kids, right, they're charging
the kid now, those four people sitting there, they're not
giving you. And if they say, well, it's a discount
for ten and under or eight and under, the discount
goes from one forty three to one thirty seven.

Speaker 6 (01:01:30):
Hey buddy, I got a job for you. What's that.

Speaker 8 (01:01:33):
Well, I'll pay you two hundred bucks if you if
you put this Mickey Mouse costume on and show up
and surprise the kids.

Speaker 9 (01:01:40):
It's for the kids. That's always for the kids. It's
always for always for the kids. Can you imagine they'll
get in the breakfast bill. Oh when you look back
and say, you're out of your frigging mind. I'm not
paying nine hundred dollars. It's like this breakfast. Oh you
know that's happened to you know that it's been delivered
to If you're a billionaire, Yeah, if your Genie bus
going to Disneyland tomorrow, mark well, kids, right, and you're
gonna sit there and celebrate with your families. I don't

(01:02:02):
even know if Genie has I don't think Genie has
kids yet. If they do, they be it's probably too
old for the Disney, too old for the Disney Land.
But regardless is I don't care if your bill. I
don't care if Musk walks in there with all ten
of his kids. Okay, it's not nine hundred dollars for
that breakfast. I mean, he's not nine dollars. Okay, walk up,

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take a picture, tale that they're not talking to you,
they're making animated and do it all. And you're like,
well that was great. Yeah, we can walk into the
park and you could actually see them walking around. Just
walk up and snap a picture with him. It doesn't
cost you nine hundred dollars in the breakfast sucked anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:02:37):
See that's the other part of it too, is I
love Disney, Dude.

Speaker 9 (01:02:40):
I want to be the first, even as a girln adult,
even though it's like eight hundred bucks a person to
ride all the rides, I do like to be the
first one. And like you're actually scrambling around with kids
or adults to get to Space Mountain first.

Speaker 6 (01:02:52):
I do.

Speaker 9 (01:02:52):
I'd like to get up early, get coffee. I know
that sounds cheesy, it's still at this age. I want
let's go early. I don't want to go eleven. I
want to be the first in the park. Or you
get that pass. It says we let the first like
five hundred people in first, right, the fast fat right,
you get there first, right. Yeah, they will let you
in forty five minutes or an hour. You get to
play for an hour before everybody else comes in.

Speaker 6 (01:03:12):
I'm all for it.

Speaker 9 (01:03:14):
The breakfast sucks, stop it, and it's expensive, and a
normal family can't go enjoy what we did and what
I did when I was growing up. It was hard
on my family, but still it was more feasible. Come on, man,
and John, it's not worth it.

Speaker 8 (01:03:26):
John Tolkien, the guy that I told you rock and Roll,
as he's known as, said I'll just take a gas
station burrito and sugar free red Bull and hang on
to the remaining nine hundred and thirty dollars.

Speaker 9 (01:03:37):
That's if you're gonna spend money in there, going there
and get the uh, what's the what I call it
the Monte Cristo. It's the it's the restaurant that sits
right inside Pirates of the Caribbean. It's the best money
crystal sandwich on the planet. Really, go in there and
get the might get off there, and you have to
make great You can't if you go into the park
and you have made reservations. A second, you walk in
there the night before, you ain't getting the sandwich there.

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It's right in And when you're riding the Pirates of
the caravan, you look and there's lights and there's a
little restaurant sitting here. Its indoor outdoor, very calm and quiet.
The best money crystal sandwich I've ever had in my
life is in that rest and when I go, I
absolutely have to have it.

Speaker 6 (01:04:10):
How does Disney continue to run out of money?

Speaker 9 (01:04:12):
I don't have any idea. Well, you know, I'm gonna
ask you, do you I'm wanna decide who's running it. Yeah,
that may that may help. You know, people that like
to give money or take away your money, good lord,
and don't pay you back for it.

Speaker 6 (01:04:23):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 9 (01:04:24):
I have no idea, But can you imagine saying, hey,
let's charge one hundred and forty five dollars of breakfast
per person to have Princess whoever walk out there, walk by,
take a picture with your kid, Tell your kids.

Speaker 6 (01:04:37):
Sorry, we're gon.

Speaker 9 (01:04:38):
We're gonna fund a vacation somewhere else for the money
we just spent on a horse's ass breakfast.

Speaker 8 (01:04:43):
Well, somebody named Domino responded back to rock and Roll,
disney World a place. A disney World is a people
trap run by a mouse.

Speaker 6 (01:04:53):
It's a fact. They put the cheese in there, and
you know what, we're all dumb enough to go grab
the cheese. Unfortunately, you get.

Speaker 9 (01:04:59):
Partial of the cheese, and you get the dang thing
snaps on the back of your neck, and you're hurting
the whole time. You can't even enjoy it because you're thinking,
what's a chocolate covered banana gonna cost me? They got
them all over Disneyland. Yeah, what the hell is it?
Give me a soda and hot dog?

Speaker 6 (01:05:12):
Hey, you got a Epcot drink the world?

Speaker 9 (01:05:15):
Yeah, seven four hundred dollars.

Speaker 8 (01:05:18):
I know another place I can go where I can
drink the world and it's not even a fraction of
this price.

Speaker 9 (01:05:22):
Yeah, it's it's true. It's it's fascinating. But that breakfast
right there, I'll tell you what, You'll never do that again.
And by the time the kids about a year from now,
you know where that picture will be that they took
in that experience, be sitting in some trash hand thrown
away kid would have drawn on the face or something
as well. Do and have zero idea of the picture
we took with Mickey forty seven years ago.

Speaker 6 (01:05:43):
Sean, it's ftk, it's for the kid, the kids.

Speaker 9 (01:05:46):
Yeah, well guess what. Let me just warn the kids
that that ain't in anymore. Okay, that ain't in anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:05:51):
Well, Timmy and them win tharles.

Speaker 8 (01:05:54):
Okay, yeah, that ain't it anymore. We went to Disneyland. Well,
good for them. Maybe next time they'll take you because
I taking you.

Speaker 9 (01:06:00):
Well, that nine hundred that they spent on breakfast would
have funded four trips for my family back in the day,
because that was when he had the Tear Out Hawaii,
the tear out ticket, So you didn't get the full pass.
You got that you'd buy it, your mom would buy
the booklet, and your dad and they'd have the E tickets.
That's why I say, oh, it's an E ticket ride,
which was the Space Mountain, the Matterhorn, the Big Ones,
the log Ride, and then the A ticket was hopping

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on the Peter Pan ride where you sat there with
the little kids, right, and so you wanted.

Speaker 6 (01:06:24):
To save and hoard the e ticket.

Speaker 9 (01:06:26):
Now it's that'll be five hundred and forty seven bucks
and you can ride them all and if you come
at noon in the middle of the summer or spring break,
you get to ride three of them.

Speaker 6 (01:06:34):
And I do I do.

Speaker 9 (01:06:35):
I love the walk through Disneyland, I love the smells
of the peanuts that I do, But I just the
price of it. How they can sustain this is absolutely
beyond me. Did you think that maybe if you took
the price down more people show up? Novel concept? But
what do I know?

Speaker 8 (01:06:50):
Yeah, you would think, well, for nine hundred and thirty
seven dollars, breakfast with the kids that are have been
the best damn breakfast you ever had.

Speaker 6 (01:06:58):
Yeah, if it's for the kids, that ate part of
the thing. The kids are getting reminds me of the
movie Principle, Buddy.

Speaker 8 (01:07:03):
Principle reminds me of the movie Spy Game Brad Pitt
and Robert Redford where they're in the middle of the
uh what was it in Bay Roots Lebanon, They're in
the middle of the Civil War. He tells him there's
a place where he taught the guy to make migas.
And they're going through. They're dodging, you know, gunfire all
of that, and they duck behind like a piece of rubble,
and Robert Redford goes, this better be the best dam

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of breakfast.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
Say yeah, say you know, I don't know if I'm
dodging live rounds.

Speaker 9 (01:07:35):
Give me that dog on Vegas for bread's better have
some good spice. And they actually they actually use good
you know tortilla chips here that yeah, it tastes great.
What was also good last night was uh well for
the most part from er, we'll talk about him and
these astros as. If you want to weigh in on it,
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game that you had to have Yaner Diaz walk it
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have put him back out there because the runner on second.

Speaker 9 (01:08:36):
All of that wise move. You want to be not
used to that, to starting any and stuff. So it's yeah,
it was smart move, and you know sometimes you may
get five. But one thing we can rarely complain about
about Fromber. We can say that, like the last two
starts have not been the dominant Fromber, and you're right,
we get spoiled over. As long as we get fat
and happy and he doesn't, I'm good. Two is is

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guys like that set the bar really high when they're
going great, that we expect that every night, which is impossible.
Sometimes the two tests of the guy or a player
is what they do and can they win? When they're
not doing everything that become it looks easy, you know,
when you're struggling a little bit how to get through it.
It's easy for pitcher and quarterback play. For me to

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make the comparison, because there's time you start first inning,
walk to, they're patient with you. Next inning, you know, bingo,
bango bongo, strike them out. And then you're into the
third inning and just settle in and you know you didn't.
You gave up one run, but you got to say, okay,
I got to fight through this. And maybe the third
inning you walk one, strike out to, they get a run.
Now you're down one and you're into the fourth inning
and you still haven't really settled. Quarterback, throw a pick

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in the first quarter boom, come back and set a drive,
go for a touchdown.

Speaker 6 (01:09:44):
And then the next thing you know, you.

Speaker 9 (01:09:46):
Drop back, hold the ball too long, stripsack fun will
they go for a score. And then they kick off
to you and you throw a pick. You haven't really
got started, and your two picks down and your three
scores down. Now how do you play? That's the hard part.
And I've seen it, I've done it, lived it where
you threw it to the other team say oh damn.
And there's times when you're able to overcome it. There's
times when you pout about it to get locked into

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trying too much and trying to do too much before
you know you're in the fourth quarter and you never
got out of it. The good thing about it is
when you can. And then there's the times and you're like, man,
it's a rough one. And then when it's done, you
grind it out of victory, you say, Okay, the stats
weren't gaudy, but they were good enough to win. And
last night my best judgment of pitching quarterbacks is can
you play one under pressure guys pretty good?

Speaker 6 (01:10:31):
And two?

Speaker 9 (01:10:32):
Can you play survive the bad stuff and still find
a way to win and do whatever it takes to
win when things aren't good.

Speaker 6 (01:10:40):
That's the I'm telling you.

Speaker 9 (01:10:41):
For me, the hardest thing to do is like, that's
three quarters of slogging around, man, not that you're other
players that you feel like you're letting your teammates down.
It's like there's a wide open curl rush, Sean, what
the hell are you looking at? You can make the
throw with a blindfold on, put your foot in the
ground and let it rich snap it into the ground.
And then there's those times you're like, gosh, I missed
that throat, but it's landing right on your guy's tory right.

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It's like, man, I don't feel right today and you're
twenty to twenty two. It's like, what, so they happened,
But I'd rather have an ugly win than a pretty loss.
Oh the guy went eight and two thirds but gave
up three home runs in the seventh, back to back
to back jobs. He hung sliders, And then you're sitting
there saying, Okay, I'd rather throw for two twenty and

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win than four fifty and lose. Now, I don't know
if everybody says that, but that's I would rather, because
I've done both.

Speaker 6 (01:11:30):
Had that game, we're like, man, what a game? You
come up short. Nobody cares about your stats from er
last night.

Speaker 9 (01:11:36):
Those are the gut check games where you say on
the road, it's nice we hammered him, and at that
point in time early you didn't know you were going
to get the beginning right, so you're just kind of
going through.

Speaker 6 (01:11:45):
It's close. Those are the ones you just got to
grind out, man, and hope that you can get another
extra inning or so so your bullpen's safe. And that
to me is the test of truth that goes from
star to superstar stuff. So it wasn't pretty, but damn
I will take those because now that's in a row
and you've been able to deal with it. Now he'll
go on one of those rolls where two or three
in a row, seven and two thirds. But winning when

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you're not supposed or when you're having one of those
games where it's not pretty but you're.

Speaker 9 (01:12:10):
Kind of grinding it out. You're gonna get more of
those than you are.

Speaker 6 (01:12:13):
The nine innings, eight innings, seven innings of great baseball,
that's just normal. Would we say the average was five
innings for a starter across baseball? So you can he
give you for average last night? The key is the
offense decided to show up and support him. And that's
back to back nights. When you score twenty four runs
in two games, you really can. You can be an
average pitcher and find a way to win.

Speaker 8 (01:12:33):
It's like, I mean, it's it's exactly what you said.
And you maybe throw for two twenty two, twenty five,
maybe you had a pick or two.

Speaker 6 (01:12:39):
Eighteen of thirty.

Speaker 9 (01:12:40):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it started off slow, put your
team in a buying right, and at halftime you're frustrated,
you're and the receiver gotten a little chippy because he
was opening. You overthrew him, and the coach is pissed
at you because you made the wrong audible check or
you didn't check out of a play that we talked
about all week, and you're sitting there and you think
if you got caught in your dude, you're hosed. That's

(01:13:02):
when you almost got to play the prick factor of yeah, okay,
I've had it. Things are going to get better, and
you know, take any of it personal, but those are
the ones I'm telling you, dude, you actually have to
go into the restroom and take a look, wash your face,
and say, in truth, I know it sounds kind of
cheesy or hyperbog, but I've done it where you looking
and say, dude, who the hell are what are you

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going to do the rest of this thing? It's dude,
the games when you're like going good, hell, your mom
could come out and hit that throw right. When you
feel that that feeling of it doesn't matter what they do,
everything's clear. It's like they opened a picture for it's
like amazing. It's that day when you're like, man, it
was wide open, Sean, what are you thinking about? Why
aren't what's wrong with you? On the stretch by get

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him the ball wider or on a hitch route. What
are you throwing to his wrong shoulder? Just the simple stuff,
And truly, when it comes down to it, it's executing
this stuff you do every single day, all the time.
Pitch your quarterback team. The execution of the simple stuff.
That's the stuff you're supposed to every day. It's hard.
That's more important than the spectacular once in a while.

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The spectacular once in a while does not sustain you.
When the spectacular once in a while is open, you
can't miss it twenty times on a forty yard throw.

Speaker 6 (01:14:11):
But it's the flat route, the single.

Speaker 9 (01:14:15):
The walk a guy one time and then force him
to hit in the next guy to hit into a
double play.

Speaker 6 (01:14:21):
It's the sean.

Speaker 9 (01:14:22):
It was third and three, and instead of forcing which
you thought you could get a fifteen to twenty yard
dig route in, you threw the ball to the tight
end in the flat, got four yards, lived to play
four more downs. The hero syndrome kicks in for all
of us in truth, in most sports. In basketball, if
you do play defense and do the simple things well,
don't turn the ball over, you're gonna win more.

Speaker 6 (01:14:42):
Than you're gonna lose.

Speaker 9 (01:14:43):
Sure, it's really the and the key the greatest players
in the world that I've ever been around or talked
to that are much better, smarter, and better at it
than I've ever been. If you went to Gretzki or Jordan,
or even not the best of the best, the good
once the guys, you'd say that was a hell of
a player for fifteen years. You know what, they did

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better than anybody. The stuff you're supposed to do consistently
well all the time, all the time. They may have
missed once in a while. But when I say all
the time, I mean if you got a flat route,
you don't throw it behind the guy five times out
of ten. You throw it to him nine and a
half times out of ten, and the tenth one he
probably could have caught, but it was a back and

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it was a little high, and they can't get bigger pads,
so they can't quite get their hands up right. The
simple execution of stuff, I probably think it's in everyday life,
our job, execute and come in here, do the same,
you know, prepare, but consistencye what you're doing it from
Erval does is pretty consistent in working innings. It's the
stuff that you're not doing consistently well on that day

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can you find a way to do it consistently enough
to win, and he did last night and got help
from his friends.

Speaker 6 (01:15:51):
Finally, for sure, eleven runs to the tune of that,
so that helps twenty hits and he gives up five walks,
strikes out three five hits and two earned runs in
the outing last night, as from er Valdez. Now eight
and four on the season.

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Speaker 6 (01:18:04):
Hit in a Google Machine.

Speaker 8 (01:18:05):
Yeah, the group had its original when it was June
and Bonnie Pointer.

Speaker 6 (01:18:10):
Okay, Yeah, the makes sense. You had Anita part of
it too, So who was Anita?

Speaker 9 (01:18:19):
Okay, so it wasn't Donna Summer, but they have a
very similar sound. Yeah, not seeing Donna Summer here. So yeah,
well there not to be confused. Like I said, with
Diana Ross and the Supreme right where she started right
there you go. Yeah, it's like Paul McCartney and the Beatles.
You know, he was much more than just wings. Yeah,
he was also Paul McCartney. Paul McCartney in the Wings

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and then obviously I guess the Beatles are fairly iconic.

Speaker 8 (01:18:43):
Now excuse me for for overlooking this because it was
not by intention, But now he is, Sir Paul McCartney.
You have that sword placed on you, bilities that come with.

Speaker 6 (01:18:55):
It, do we have to call him that? Oh yeah,
so he's artist, like sir Elton John. It's like doctor.

Speaker 8 (01:19:00):
So if somebody, if somebody is a doctor, you don't
call him mister or missus.

Speaker 6 (01:19:06):
Okay, but sir, how do sir?

Speaker 9 (01:19:10):
Because he's excuse me, because he's won some awards and
won a lot of golf tournaments and I loved him
as a golfer and announcer. I got to call him
sir Nick Faldo. I understand the introduction Jim Nance when
he was in the eighteenth hour. Oh, six time major winner,
seven time Major winner and three time Masters winner, Sir
Nick Faldo. But he doesn't go the rest of the

(01:19:30):
day and say, hey, sir, sir nick snick snick. So
with a doctor, you'd always call him. If doctor comes
on your show, you label him as a doctor. When
you ask the question, you don't say Steve Jones. You'd
say doctor Jones, right Jones? But so so, so okay,
what does it take? That's exactly right? Well, I can't
call him. He's Jeff, but Jeff with it. But I
can't say, hey, what's up, Jeff? I taught him doctor

(01:19:51):
and he's a friend, right, So I'm just curious what constitutes.

Speaker 6 (01:19:57):
Being a sir?

Speaker 9 (01:19:59):
I want to know, is it Paul because he's a
legendary celebrity and singer. Is it like part of a
kind of a hall of Fame label? If you're likes you, okay,
pretty much, it becomes So that's what it is. You
were talented in your field, golfer, singer, entertainer, So we
label you that, right, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Sir?

Speaker 6 (01:20:16):
My? What's is? What's the actor that said that? It
was in?

Speaker 9 (01:20:19):
Uh the guy who Eight People with Jody Foster Anthony Hopkins?

Speaker 6 (01:20:25):
Is he sir Anthony Hopkins? I think so, isn't he? He?
Probably is?

Speaker 9 (01:20:28):
When are we going to get sir? You know we
got sir Nick Faldo? Oh was Sir Justin Rose coming
down the pipe here?

Speaker 6 (01:20:36):
But yes, Anthony Hopkins.

Speaker 8 (01:20:38):
Anthony knighted by Queen Elizabeth the Second nineteen ninety two
for his contributions to drama There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:20:45):
Well it was dramatic. What was the name of that
movie again?

Speaker 9 (01:20:47):
Jody Foster Science the Lamp so so the sir so
I got to call him sir because the Queen decided that, well,
he's big here in the community.

Speaker 6 (01:20:57):
Do you think like he steps into a room.

Speaker 9 (01:20:59):
Now think you can put sirlect doctor, and I respect
the queen. Don't misunderstand me. But maybe on their turf,
you got to call him that? But do I have
to call him sir? Like, hey, what's up, sir Nick?
If Anthony hoff I'm not just joking.

Speaker 8 (01:21:10):
If Anthony Hopkins shows up, like say he was in town,
he went over to Mostro's and you're eating there, I
think people leave him alone. I think because he played
that part so well, you'm afraid he might eat him.

Speaker 6 (01:21:22):
You think that he actually is.

Speaker 9 (01:21:24):
He's going to turn and give me a steak in
that guy's head. Okay, I want to eat his face?

Speaker 6 (01:21:29):
What day? I mean, dude, where's your hand? Dude? You're
right in in my mouth? Sir, Sir Anthony Hopkins this year?
What can I say exactly? So? I just wonder if
they like require you if like, if you're Anthony Hopkins,
are you offended if in an interview I don't address
you as sir after the introduction? Can I call you
either mister Hopkins or Anthony or Tony if you're tight.

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I'm sure some of his bay great actor Tony Hopkins.
So I just wonder do we give the do we
give the same validation of hard work and a doctor?
Which rightful?

Speaker 11 (01:22:00):
So right?

Speaker 9 (01:22:01):
If you're knighted because they think you're a great See,
a doctor went to school and earned the damn thing
and then had to still save lives.

Speaker 6 (01:22:08):
Right, I'm just wondering.

Speaker 9 (01:22:10):
Because Nick Foudel could hit a right to left draw
and make a putt better than most of us.

Speaker 6 (01:22:15):
But and he's good at his craft.

Speaker 9 (01:22:18):
But does that qualify for me to have to call
him when I address him as Sir Nick Faldo all
the time, even when we're fishing out he's doing in
the Flathead Valley or something, Monte, I gotta call him
sir Nick.

Speaker 6 (01:22:29):
I would if use my buddy, I'm saying, you know what, dude,
get the step in, I would say, Nick, I would
they require it?

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Well?

Speaker 8 (01:22:35):
I think that there probably are some who their egos
are so strong that you would absolutely, yes, yes, very much.
Where where you're gonna get, you're gonna get the course
correction on that. If you don't come correct.

Speaker 9 (01:22:46):
I might be a little I'd have a hard time
in for cigarette both. But I told my buddies, because
I got a master's what are you gonna do next,
Ye'll and go get a doctor, I say a matter
of fact, I am, yeah exactly, and then from now
on the rest of my life, you pricks are gonna
have to call.

Speaker 6 (01:22:58):
Me doctor sal doctor self ra Sean.

Speaker 9 (01:23:02):
Why would you do it for no other reason? I'm
not going to medical school. I get it for no
other reason.

Speaker 6 (01:23:08):
So you to be beat you by, buddy, you have
to address me as doctor Salister Salisbury. Yeah, it's the
doctor Salisbury.

Speaker 9 (01:23:16):
Getting by doctor why. Man, what a great opportunity. What
are you gonna do with it? Absolutely nothing?

Speaker 6 (01:23:20):
It works out for right, You're going to call me
doctor sALS Salisbury. Right, So I just want to where
the sir, if you've been knighted, if we just have
to hear, because you know how we hold the royal
family here in the United States, Oh my gosh, if
they walk over, I don't get it.

Speaker 9 (01:23:36):
Neither neither do people in Britain either. They'll tell you
that with it, it's unbelievable, it's weird. So but I'll
put respect if that's what we're supposed to do. But
if it's kind of a choice and we just did it,
because it's like, do I got to call you. Hey,
you're on the Walk of Fame. I gotta treat you
different in Hollywood because that I got to put another
nickname on you.

Speaker 6 (01:23:53):
No, but maybe this is different. See, I got to
the opposite way. We fled the monarchy, then we beat
the monarchy. So I'm not calling you surface squat. Yeah,
God save the Queen. Get out of here, Red, white
and blue around these parts. That's what I say, all right.

Speaker 8 (01:24:06):
Seven one three, two one two five, seven ninety our
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Speaker 6 (01:24:11):
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Speaker 8 (01:24:53):
This is the Seawan Salisbury Show, and they are going
to close out that series a little bit later on today.
Brandon Rodgers, Brendan Rodgers on the il with an oblique issue.
Shae Whitcomb back with the club NBA Finals at game
six tonight. They're in Indianapolis, the Thunder trying to close

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out the Pacers.

Speaker 6 (01:25:16):
Up three to two in that series.

Speaker 8 (01:25:18):
Someone three, two, one, two, five seven ninety is the
number to get in.

Speaker 9 (01:25:21):
You got something on that shown. I was just gonna
say the oblique thing. If there's an oblique injury, it'll
find the Astros. It's a baseball thing, like the course
for all, for all the torque and stuff, whether it's
throwing or hitting, there's no doubt. But just because we're here,
it's like, oh, another oblique your first guess, Hey, man,
I got her a little upper It's got to be

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the oblique.

Speaker 8 (01:25:42):
Have you noticed that we we've little by little, especially
with more transparency come from the club on injuries, discomfort
has kind of gone away, and I think they finally
realized they're like, all right, we can't keep just throwing
that out there.

Speaker 9 (01:25:55):
Well, usually it's got to the point for me when
discomfort was brought up, not he's banged up, he's hurt,
he's it's inflamed. When you hear the word discomfort, the
first thing that always comes to my mind.

Speaker 6 (01:26:06):
Done for the year.

Speaker 9 (01:26:07):
Yeah, he's got discomfort seeing three months, Yeah, yeah, discomfort. Well,
has he got a little discomfort in his ankle? Okay,
so his achilles is blown out. They got a little difficulty.
He's got discomfort and he's in his arm. Oh you
see el's coming. Oh man, his shoulder. He's got some discomfort.

Speaker 6 (01:26:26):
He's done.

Speaker 9 (01:26:27):
Yeah, oh man, the calf lower calf muscle on a
quick burst out of the box.

Speaker 6 (01:26:33):
Heirs his achilles. He's finished. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:26:36):
It is And now it's like, yeah, now we've gotten
to the point where the obliques just it's it's your filling,
you know. Oh man, got to be an oblique too
much torque. Just get Gary Kubiak to do your injuries. John,
he's got he's got a knee, he's got an ankle.

Speaker 6 (01:26:51):
Well we know that.

Speaker 9 (01:26:52):
Yeah, yes, but that's wrong, dude, that's the old It's
like the old school. Jackie Chryl who learned I think
Matt have been a Lombardi. They don't ever when they
were watching film. Jackie and I have watched film together,
like when I was doing college football for you as
pe'd you go in the day before and he talked
to the coaches, right, So he was a MISSISPPI State
And I love coach Cheryl coach. Coach Cheryl is one
of my favorite people in the world. He has amazing

(01:27:16):
great storyteller. I friggin that like, I love Coach Cheryl,
love him. I want him to come in here and
talk four hours of coll We need to get him
in here. Just caught college football all day long, on
on in the fall. I can't, we can't, but but
we I'd love him in here because he's such a
and he gets He's got a great laugh. He's just

(01:27:37):
a great story and he's a storyteller. Also at the
time when you know people hand to hand all the stuff,
he's eras right.

Speaker 6 (01:27:45):
So I'm watching film with him and.

Speaker 9 (01:27:48):
Old old school ways. You don't ever call the player
by his number, I mean by his name. They never
watching tape refer to a player old school run right, Yeah,
And I'll ask him to say, well, coach, what do
you think about you know ole missus defense. You know
we're playing in the egg Bowl, right, because coach, do
you what do you think about their their scheme? All
miss the defense. And you know the the uh, Steve

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Johnson's a really good player. Yeah, I'll tell you what
Shawn twenty four, and he will at at no time
even describing his own players. I can tell you what
Man eighty eight, we'll get. We got a real opportunity
with him against his own coverage down the middle, speaking
of the tight end.

Speaker 10 (01:28:27):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:28:28):
And so I just I love the reference point of
that's the old school, like you're saying when they say,
oh and then another one was old school. Aside from
the numbers, they never ever tell you the injury. It's
like elbow shoulder, got an ankle, of course he does.

Speaker 6 (01:28:45):
It's a left ankle. Oh he's got a left ankle too.
That Yeah, it could be blown out and shredded, or
it can be slightly twisted with.

Speaker 9 (01:28:52):
A little ice on it. Got an ankle, they could
be cutting it off. Oh he's got an ankle at
least for now. You know what I'm saying, right, But
that's the old school way, never talking names, always talking
out because when you're watching tape, it's the reference point, right.
And with that, it's like I'm giving you your answer
without letting you get too close to understanding what's going
on with my team because it's an advance and old
school even more so, would like to hide injuries for

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the for the reason of, you know, they weren't going
to give anybody an advantage because they felt everybody was cheating.
Everybody was trying to get something. Everybody was cheating. Somebody
watching my practice. That was the Al Davis Paddock, right,
somebody watching my practice. Nobody liked it. And this was
long before the Belichick. All that stuff went on. So
old school talking knee usually you're lucky. This is in
nineteen eighty five. You'd never get an injury report. It'd

(01:29:36):
be youah ankle, shoulder, elbow, right eye, ear lob, tattoo problems.

Speaker 6 (01:29:43):
I mean, you'll never ever get well, what's going on
with that angle? How long is that?

Speaker 9 (01:29:47):
The day to day ankle? Six months later? Yeah, blew
it out. Let you find out you're the hard way.

Speaker 8 (01:29:53):
I remember the Texans closed out the season against the
Patriots and nine and that was when Welker ripped up
his knee at n RG And before you know, every
week you do a conference call with coaches, players, you know,
whoever it is, make make them available. And John McClain
asked Belichick if like Welker and a few other guys

(01:30:13):
were gonna play, and in Belichick, of course they're on
your fantasy team.

Speaker 6 (01:30:18):
John.

Speaker 8 (01:30:19):
You know, he talks and he's like, yeah, I got him,
you know, and and he goes, I suppose they'll be there.
That was this his way of saying, yeah, they'll play. Yeah,
I suppose they'll be there. He goes, and yeah, I
mean that's uh. And then Thedica one too always cracked
me up. Hey, how's so and so. Talk to the
trainer next. Yeah, he trainer makes those decisions.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:30:42):
That's why on the sidelines, when the coach is coaching
somebody gets hurt, they're they're looking at the script. Who's
my next guy? They can't they I mean training. Then
then the train will come getting his ear and say,
hey man, he's got a score ankle. The answer isn't
house sore, it's is are we putting him back in?

Speaker 6 (01:30:57):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:30:57):
He coaches, got hurt his shoulder, well, well enough to
go back. You're not asking as well enough bad enough
to keep him out. It's always is he going back in?
He's got his helmet? No, no, coaches, he can't go
back in his shoulders laying on the bench. Well you sure, okay,
Who's Who's who?

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
Who?

Speaker 10 (01:31:12):
Who?

Speaker 6 (01:31:13):
That?

Speaker 9 (01:31:13):
That's how they Because it's such a fast paced going
you're worried about the next truly, the next man up,
so you're not even thinking.

Speaker 6 (01:31:19):
Of the train. It's the old school practice days. Ah.

Speaker 8 (01:31:22):
Somebody roll up their ankle, we'll get them off, all right,
line it back up again, Let's go again.

Speaker 6 (01:31:27):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:31:28):
We're playing for practicing in Minnesota, and Terry Allen from
Clem's Hell had blown out his knee once already. And
I'm telling you what you want to talk about. Tough,
that's the guy you want on your seat. Go into
an alley. You know at least he's gonna hurt a
few people on the way out. Tough as hell, little underside.
But I'm talking about a stud. We're practicing and he's
our number one back, and Terry had earned that job

(01:31:48):
after an injury, and I'd love him. We're running like
his gut play in nine on seven, goes down, shreds
his knee. You know what the end old school And
it's not insensitive, but you just say when you say
it like this, like what simply and Denny was the coach,
and he loved Terry as well. We moved the drill

(01:32:10):
because we got we're on a time clock, and all
we did was push the drill forward thirty yards. The
trainers will come out. You look back behind there's training camera.
And he blew out his knee and missed the season.
This was in training camp. It was the second time
he'd blown out his knee. But you don't wait and
everybody's take a knee like you do in a game.
You move the drill. Why because we got eight more
plays than nine on seven that they're going to get
you a script run. That's exactly right. And I know

(01:32:32):
that sounds so harsh and insensitive, but as a player
you understand. Oh he gets it too, Yeah, of course
he gets it. Move the drill. It wasn't well we'll
wait for the player. It's if we got to jog
three fields over to get it in because we're now
behind on practice, and if you get one of those
coaches that were starting at this time and we are
finishing at this time, and then we'll break down the
tape and review what we need to review. We literally

(01:32:55):
a shredded knee for our number one back that we
needed did they moved the drill?

Speaker 8 (01:33:00):
I understand when he was at Alabama. One of Nick
Saban's requirements for students, managers, anybody that wants to help out,
you have to be able to catch. And people would say, okay,
well that sounds pretty you know, innocuous on the surface.
His reasoning for it, well, I don't want to waste
time somebody chasing down a football, catch the ball, throw

(01:33:20):
it back to somebody.

Speaker 9 (01:33:21):
Let's get backing more irritating. And it's true, you will.
You kind of want them with the ball boys that
come out to training camp. You want the guy they'll
snap it to you, and you snap it right because
you got all these quarterbacks and it's rapid fire man,
we were moving and they don't want you'll quarterback missed
and you got to chase the ball down. They'd want
it guy or hits them in the hands and slides
through them.

Speaker 6 (01:33:41):
They did. They want guys, hey, can you throw it?
Can you? Okay?

Speaker 9 (01:33:43):
You need to throw the ball to the dbs that
are running certain drills. So they pretend like they're getting
an interception because coach is coaching them. Those guys they
come out there, they're getting their sweat and they get
a little nervous too, especially you get what.

Speaker 6 (01:33:54):
Are you doing bringing these balls out here?

Speaker 8 (01:33:55):
And don't throw the catch balls and don't throw the
wobbly ones either, trying to protect finger this out here.

Speaker 9 (01:34:00):
Oh yeah, all right, it's d coaches when they get
on their routine. Brother one minute off schedule, and it
drove Denny Green nuts to the point where you moved
the drill. But that wasn't abnormal move the drill because
we got to get practice in and hopefully our running
back will be okay. And Terry came back from a
second ee surgery the next year and played his ass
off again. And it's tough for any player I ever

(01:34:21):
played with day to day.

Speaker 8 (01:34:23):
Coach Corso you know a guy and who played for
him in Indiana, and he always used to say that
Corso horn Man, how much time we got?

Speaker 6 (01:34:31):
Two minutes? Coach horn Man hit it?

Speaker 9 (01:34:34):
Oh yeah, you know, and if that thing was over
two minutes or a hornet had to remind you now
you were behind and rapid fire. Let's go pick this
tempo up. So you always love practice, Cristnas of practice
mattered all the time. Shout out Jaybird guy used to
do it at textas practice.

Speaker 6 (01:34:48):
There you go. He was the horn man. There you go.

Speaker 9 (01:34:49):
You know, next get back, get back coach and the
horn man. Nine on seven, special teams on the other field, kick.

Speaker 6 (01:34:58):
Off return, oh w go oh go line good good.
That's that. Those were fridays, dude, spread two minutes, two minutes,
jumbo jumbo jumbo. Shortyard is shortyard is go line two minutes.
Special teams. Yeah, regularly, rapid fire man. Those are the days.
Just I miss them, but I don't miss them. I
missed the camaraderie. I don't miss the business side of it.

Speaker 9 (01:35:18):
But I sure loved the competition, and I loved practice
and training camp. You don't miss on the line, all right,
everybody on the line at the at the end of practice,
after you've and you had to do it to get
in shape, and you've already practiced for two a drop
back four thousand times, got it, and you're running the lines.
You know, you sprint up to the other side of
the field, sprint back, touch the line, sprint up and
do like six of them. You're like, that's not really
that much, but yeah, and don't pull up short of

(01:35:42):
the line or the coaches. Now you screwed the pooch
for the rest of the tea.

Speaker 6 (01:35:45):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 9 (01:35:46):
One hey, one fail, all fail and everybody has to
get back and do it. Then you start cussing that
guy because you're late to lunch, Well, I mean gonna resargeant.

Speaker 6 (01:35:53):
Hartman told us, I'm no longer going to punish private
Pile from now on, I will punish all of you
because you have not given him the proper motivation.

Speaker 9 (01:36:01):
Told you Dinny Green did the same to us about
a rookie he was late. Yeah, it was no longer
on him. It was on the veterans to make sus Yeah,
or we were screwed and we all suffered for it. Well,
then then he got to know about it later.

Speaker 6 (01:36:11):
Yes, he did it. It'll be late, but it did.
It didn't take much time to let him know, trust me.

Speaker 8 (01:36:15):
Yeah, you got to get free rein. You gotta let
those veterans go to work, all right. See a couple
of you on the phone lines, get back into the
astros conversation seven one three two one two five seven
ninety again seven one three two one two five seven
ninety Sean Salisbury Show on a Thursday Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:36:32):
Let the celebration start war Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 9 (01:36:37):
Ninety Yeah, basically and my words, but in basically paraphrasing
what he said, you know, it's starting to feel it,
and he's starting to, you know, to the point where
you don't have to watch him with a keen eye
and say, well, okay, how's he doing, how's his growth?
It's almost like, well, it happened quicker as Dan had

(01:36:58):
told us yesterday, and you'd put on Twitter as well,
and you do a great job of putting those quotes
up as when Dana had said it happened, it's happened
a lot faster than they expected because they didn't even
expect him on the major league roster. Right now that
he's been here, it looks like what they expected it
to look like eventually, right, and the paraphrase, and we said,

(01:37:18):
and it's almost to the point where we're not even
looking at I'm not it's hard for me to look
at Cam Smith and say, he's a rookie who's never
played right field, but fifty some games or whenever, however
many games he's been in right field this year, and
he's he's and he's he's raking like, not only that
he belongs it, Okay, that where he's at in the order,
we're about a year away from him hitting in the

(01:37:39):
first four players if this keeps up.

Speaker 8 (01:37:42):
So he had said, also to about one hundred and
fifty at bats into a career, that's when you have
a good idea, You have a good idea of who
the guy is at the time.

Speaker 6 (01:37:50):
They do because they're experts at seeing the fine stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:37:53):
Even as fans we think we know a lot about baseball,
we may say, like for Kyle Tucker's one hundred and
fifty bats weren't exactly dominant, right, So you got to
they see the forest through the trees better than we
do because we're look at just the result. But they're saying, well,
to the result, he's hit the ball hard, his stroke's good,
he hangs in there, he doesn't fly his front.

Speaker 6 (01:38:10):
Shoulder, you know all those things.

Speaker 9 (01:38:12):
So one hundred and fifty at batch, you say, that's
not a big body of work, But those guys who
look at it, I should be able to watch a
quarterback throw a ball and after fifty throws get an
idea what I'm working with and what we got to
fix right now? How long it takes to fix it
to me and him working together, But with these guys
and hitting it, You're exactly right.

Speaker 6 (01:38:28):
They see because you know what they see.

Speaker 9 (01:38:30):
They've seen every pitch by then, they've seen how to
hand the success and failure batspeed, all that and the
consistency of it and all the metrics that come with it.

Speaker 6 (01:38:38):
Yeah, I think it's pretty easy to see.

Speaker 9 (01:38:39):
You don't need to be a genius to see the
potential in Campsmith, but you you probably have to be
an expert to say I know that where the floor
is and I have no idea where the ceiling is
because they see the finer points that we don't because
they're around it every day and that's been it's their livelihood.

Speaker 8 (01:38:56):
Five homers, twenty seven runs batted in now with again,
that's seven to seventy one ops. At the time he
was hitting two sixty at one hundred and fifty out bats,
so pretty good heads in the resurrection one hundred percent
he is, and especially swinging it well right now and
it's working out and working out then some for the
shows again, seven one, three, two and two five seven

(01:39:17):
ninety the number to get in. Let's go to Al
on the south Side wants to wait you good morning, al.

Speaker 6 (01:39:22):
Hey, what's going on? What's going on?

Speaker 10 (01:39:24):
Sean?

Speaker 15 (01:39:25):
Hey, Sean, you ask and you shall receive. How about
that ten percent? Sewan looked like that went up to fifty.

Speaker 9 (01:39:32):
You ain't lying, man, it sure did. They heard you,
That's right.

Speaker 15 (01:39:37):
So I just sit back looking and I'm saying, man,
wait till I say, shug, think about this man, and
you know what, and I and I speak on the
list with this hitting bag, you know, Sean having a
little experience of this game and the nuanced you you
just kind of look alluded to us.

Speaker 6 (01:39:52):
Sean.

Speaker 15 (01:39:53):
This is the thing people have to realize. I don't
just look at the hitting and he had a lot
of bets and he needed this is poor battie.

Speaker 10 (01:40:01):
You got to look at the walks as well.

Speaker 15 (01:40:03):
Playing baseball, you know, kind of at a semi high level, Shunk,
it's the walks that matter. And it's also you know,
being able to get in the groove. And I tell
people all the time baseball is a groove and Shunk.

Speaker 6 (01:40:15):
This is my last thing.

Speaker 15 (01:40:16):
And I hang up because I called a while back,
a few weeks and now two by started coming around
and I see it shunk one.

Speaker 6 (01:40:23):
Thing about it. Tu they once he get in.

Speaker 10 (01:40:25):
The groove, stuff will roll down hill.

Speaker 15 (01:40:28):
And I can see now it's bat started moving a
few weeks back, kind of slumping a little bit, and
he started catching his groove and it seems like it's
spread it all over man, And I know this city appreciated,
but man, Shawn, shout out tell tuvay Man for being
a bent superstar player.

Speaker 6 (01:40:43):
He is great show guy appreciate.

Speaker 9 (01:40:45):
Have you ever seen how two V change his personality
after a poor or a good performance?

Speaker 6 (01:40:50):
Now, how's right?

Speaker 9 (01:40:51):
There's we talk about painting his energy and stuff, but
it almost feels like everything's right in the city with
the astros went ol.

Speaker 6 (01:40:57):
Two Bay's bats alive and well. And it really does.

Speaker 9 (01:41:00):
And over the past we've seen how they fed off it,
big hits and big moments at the right time. If
that guy starts to creep up to the two eighty
two ninety stuff and the power continues to roll and
gets back to his well, he's gonna be fine. The
one thing, how many times he said what's wrong with
al tuo V? And then everything's right without two Bay?
He changes on a dime and gives you nine cents change.

Speaker 6 (01:41:19):
At a hurry. Oh.

Speaker 8 (01:41:20):
I've said it numerous times that I always love like.
I had a guy call in once so it stands
too far away from the plate. I said, let me
tell you one thing that I'm never going to do
is tell that guy out of hits well and honestly
happen sand.

Speaker 6 (01:41:31):
Away to the plate.

Speaker 9 (01:41:32):
How many times has he turned on one that's thrown
on the inside, the inner part of the plate, off
the black But he's been able to turn on and
hit into the Crawford boxes or anywhere else for that matter,
in the left field.

Speaker 6 (01:41:42):
For me, I love it.

Speaker 9 (01:41:43):
The thing about him, you just got to get what
you get with him. He's the shortest, smallest, free swinging
guy in the history of mankind who's so damn good
at it, and you don't even when he's swinging the bat,
you don't think, Wow, does he have any power? For LOUI,
It's like, oh yeah, he's got twenty five thirty home
runs and when he's going good on Rick, he's got
that kind of power.

Speaker 6 (01:41:59):
He sent the mouthy ones in the stands in Sacramento
last night home. Oh that's right.

Speaker 8 (01:42:04):
I mean, I I posted that gift of Matt Ryan
telling the other team get the right off my field.
That's what jose L two Ba did last night regularly.
Oh oh, screw me. Guess what screw you?

Speaker 6 (01:42:16):
Yeah, run right?

Speaker 9 (01:42:17):
What all said somewhere in the ties, the balls flying
because he doesn't bunches. But you also have to know
that you're gonna go through the the dips sometime because
he's such a free swinger. It's a foot over, it's
a foot out of the strike zone up, he's taking
a tomahawk to it.

Speaker 6 (01:42:30):
You know what I'm saying. And if he gets it,
it's it's it's above the railroad tracks.

Speaker 9 (01:42:35):
So you got it with him. You just got to
know that you'll go through some down, some downturns. But
it's like when the market goes to a downturn, when
all that's going crazy by the dip without two Ba,
there's no better dip buyer on the planet than the guy,
because eventually you got the when he's going through those streets,
you get him a little lower, and then you know

(01:42:56):
you're gonna get it low. And like I said, it's
trading places, man. We're going to corner the mark. And
when he's going good, you bought him low because of
the streak, but you know, eventually he's getting out of it.

Speaker 6 (01:43:04):
So by the dip with.

Speaker 9 (01:43:05):
Altuve, then we're all on a yacht somewhere in the Caribbean,
hopefully with another ring.

Speaker 6 (01:43:10):
That's it.

Speaker 8 (01:43:11):
That would be very nice. The Astros trending in the
right direction right now, in the right direction. There's never
been a better time to Yeah, Joe Spot, I did
a great job of skippering.

Speaker 9 (01:43:27):
I'll welcome him to the White House. Yeah, yeah, I
mean I'm ready for that trip for them and Joe's spot.
Where where's Joe spotta get up? I think we got
to make that trip. We got to get him on.

Speaker 6 (01:43:39):
Yeah, that'd be awesome. Dj T, what's going on? If
I don't think, I don't think Joe's gonna call off
dj T? Maybe we will? We will? Yeah, the chest
there you go? How about it? How about it?

Speaker 8 (01:43:52):
Joe's spota. So Donnie, let's tell you, hey, you know,
have some respect. It's the president. I mean that that
is a sign of respect. Comfortable enough with the guy.
What's your problem?

Speaker 9 (01:44:01):
There you go?

Speaker 8 (01:44:02):
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Let's just say he misses a step.

Speaker 6 (01:46:17):
But you know what, if poly Walnuts was there, they
probably give them a little nuge for it. Say, oh
my gosh, this guy fell. Somebody gonna help this guy. Sorry,
you pushed him? I did no such thing. Yeah, proof,
I can't say. Do you see the mafi Nobody saw it, right,
it's it you see his own Yeah, you see anything?

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You didn't see? Nothing? Did exactly. That's where they start,
you know, some some some bills going their way. Yeah,
and they make sure you didn't see anything, did you? Yeah? No,
sure or nothing? As you say that nothing, it's Jimmy
Conway and good fellas. You may know who we are,
but we know who you are. He puts a C
note in the guy's wallet, gives it back to him. Yeah,
and we know where you live. That's it's exactly right.

Speaker 10 (01:46:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:47:00):
Yeah, Well, and what happened to that ship? I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:47:03):
We go check the dry cleaning store it's just I'll
look into it, but I don't I don't know anything
about it. But yeah, Stros win last night NBA Finals
Game six coming up tonight, Thunder trying to close out
that series, and the Texans sign Rough next corner demon
our Nett to a deal. We'll get in some Texans
here in a little bit. But the Astros obviously a

(01:47:25):
huge topic of conversation. Brandon wants to weigh in. Good
morning Brandon, Good.

Speaker 6 (01:47:31):
Morning Sean, Good morning Dan.

Speaker 7 (01:47:33):
How are you?

Speaker 6 (01:47:33):
How are you? Man? Okay? Petty was good, hitting was good,
building was awesome, Yes it was. Jeremy Paanea was great.
H East sacked Perettis.

Speaker 8 (01:47:48):
I mean, you know, Sean, I threw out that tweet
after he turned that double play, as I said, Bregman,
Who that's that's basically what the East sock Perettis did.

Speaker 6 (01:47:57):
Who? Yeah, Alex Who? Alex Who? Yeah, you're worried about
that guy, don't worry. And Brandon even just backed me
up on that stellar glove play. It was it was
slick fielding over there, like that's what that's the old
school saying. He's a slick fielding third baseman, soft hands.

Speaker 9 (01:48:12):
Oh yeah, you got if you're a shortstop and you
you make a great play, you've always been slick fielding.

Speaker 6 (01:48:19):
That's it. Oh yeah, we can't. It's like like I said,
if you're a left hand of your crafty, if you're
a shortstop that's got glove.

Speaker 9 (01:48:24):
What's Ozzie Smith? Oh slick fielding, short fielding, soft hands,
slick fielding.

Speaker 6 (01:48:30):
Yeah, for sure. So it was a good night, Brandon.
You enjoyed watching it. You stay up and watch the
entire thing.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
I went to my I went, I watched for I
watched it out there for a little bit, and I
went to my room and finished watching it.

Speaker 8 (01:48:44):
There you go, Okay, well, hopefully they can finish it
up today, man, and you give us a call back
and we're talking a series win, getting ready for the Angels.

Speaker 6 (01:48:55):
Yep, there we go, all right.

Speaker 8 (01:48:56):
Brand But yeah, appreciated. Good to hear from you is
always and yeah, I mean it was exactly to Brandon's point,
all three phases last night. Hear that all the time
in football we won in all three phases. Okay, great coach,
but in this case, that's exactly what it was. I mean,
you know fromber he grinds through it a little bit
and I say that, you know, with the standards that

(01:49:17):
we have for Fromber, because five walks is not normally
what Fromber does. You're gonna get balls put in play
on the ground, They're gonna make plays behind you, which
you got fielders behind you. You want to make sure
that they're able to make those plays. Christian Walker over
at first base that one play each each yep.

Speaker 9 (01:49:33):
And but you're also going to get more than five innings,
usually that of Fromer. But you got to get those
out sometimes. I mean, in thirty starts, you're gonna have
six or seven like that. And the difference between winning
four of them and losing four of them is, you know,
obviously you got to get some clutch hits and some
great defensive plays, but you also have to have you

(01:49:54):
got to just be able to know that you guys
are just going to keep battling for you because they
trust that you're gonna do the same for them.

Speaker 6 (01:50:00):
When they don't.

Speaker 9 (01:50:00):
When they think you bail out at any point in
time when things go south, it's probably not the guy
you want to be as an ace. And right now,
the guy's pitching really, really well, and even when he's not,
he's keeping you in games.

Speaker 8 (01:50:11):
And then in that inning too, where was the bottom
of the six when the A's were able to get
a run? Fromber rightfully so frustrated because he had a
strike three call. I think it was on Mounsie is
who he had it where it should have been. It
was fully in the zone. They showed it on TV RED.
But it gives up a walk there. Eventually, Nick Kurtz
drives somewhere wrong with an RBI singled right, and you

(01:50:33):
could see that Fromber was frustrated, but he didn't let it.

Speaker 6 (01:50:38):
Get removed from the.

Speaker 9 (01:50:39):
Game because because three more pitches cost him two more runs, right,
no doubt.

Speaker 6 (01:50:44):
And I can live with that. I can live with it.

Speaker 9 (01:50:46):
I mean, it doesn't matter who you run out there,
They're going to roll through those times. So it's like
just I don't know, in a simple coaches messages, do
what you just get through it? To just just go
get through it? And what else can you? I mean,
there's no over coaching or managing you can do. I mean,
we need you, I need a couple out of you.
And so he had about it. Now I understand when
you go south, the guy's worn out and he gives

(01:51:07):
up eight runs and the first thing got to get
him out. That's not normal, that's not the norm. But
it's hard to grind through the starts when it's not
all working, or every pitch isn't working, find the ones
that are and find a way to keep the ball
down and get people out. And he's been pretty damn
good at that.

Speaker 8 (01:51:22):
So tonight that he's not pitching, you know that this
is the night when he gets to enjoy the peanuts.
You know fans will come down though. Bye, hey, Julia,
can you give these to them? Julia Morales, our good buddy.
Nick Skurfield's out there so he likes to make some
road trip.

Speaker 6 (01:51:36):
He likes it.

Speaker 13 (01:51:37):
He is.

Speaker 8 (01:51:37):
He is all about supporting the guys on the road.
And uh, I think I'm gonna throw out the challenge
if Scurf's listening, buy the peanuts be the peanut guy tonight?

Speaker 9 (01:51:48):
Did they have Sack be the peanut guy? Fair so
he can get his get his peanuts in? That didn't
sound right, did it?

Speaker 6 (01:51:54):
Peanuts? Kind of right?

Speaker 11 (01:51:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:51:56):
I don't want to say so he can get his nuts.
I didn't want to say. You know what I'm saying,
Try to try to get it.

Speaker 6 (01:52:01):
At the ball game. I mean you like you like
a good thing of peanuts?

Speaker 9 (01:52:03):
Can I can I get a curved Sacramento ways? They
have have Sacramento Ways. They still call them. What's their
hat look like?

Speaker 16 (01:52:10):
Now?

Speaker 6 (01:52:10):
Now they're just the age right there?

Speaker 9 (01:52:12):
Any is there any different change to the memorabilia if
there aren't pick a pick a brother up a hat.

Speaker 6 (01:52:18):
You know what I'm saying. Curved, I'll pay for I've
got I've got one of the Kelly Green ones.

Speaker 9 (01:52:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, the best uniform They were some of
the best uniforms on the planet, the seventies A's and
the sleeveless ones when you have the long sleeve green
under the white and green with the yellow uniforms sweet
and white white. But they only used to wear with
it was like an All Star game. They're frigging sweet.
So yeah, I just I haven't even I don't know.

(01:52:43):
I know the A's logos, the A's logo, but I
just wandered because they're a new ballpark, is there any
twists to it?

Speaker 6 (01:52:49):
Give you, you know, a little curve trucker hat. Not
pay for them, but just a thought, all right?

Speaker 9 (01:52:53):
And the A's are a team that like they don't
feel like they're a threat. It's just kind of a
nostalgic half for me, exactly exact school. See, that's one
of the things I run into, respect Martinez Jackson.

Speaker 6 (01:53:03):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
See.

Speaker 8 (01:53:04):
I run into this all the time because I will
wear a lot of gear because some of it's been
gifted to me. Some of it is just like, hey,
that's a nice looking shirt. I'll buy that shirt. But
one of the things, and I've shared this before that
is so annoying is there's a guy at the place
we work out at if I wear a different shirt
that day, Oh you're so and so fan buddy.

Speaker 6 (01:53:22):
I'm just here trying to get my back squats in.

Speaker 8 (01:53:25):
Like, there's times where I'm up to talk about it,
but then there's also times where I'm just like, dude,
it's a shirt.

Speaker 6 (01:53:30):
Just find your business. It's fine. I love, I've got
my fans.

Speaker 9 (01:53:33):
Just just a shirt that I thought look pretty exactly
got a little nostalgy to me for some reason.

Speaker 8 (01:53:37):
You notice what it is outside, and we've got those
huge garage doors open, so it's hot and humid in here.

Speaker 6 (01:53:42):
I'm going to sweat in it. I'm just wearing something
that I know I'm going to sweat in. That's all
it is, right, I'm not at a ball game. Yes,
I hear you. Oh god, I hear you. Explanation gotta
explain everything. No you don't, that's just you don't. But
there's this feel that you're supposed to No, I don't
really have to do. And it's those two because you're
listening and viewing pleasure. He is such a nice guy,

(01:54:03):
and I try not to, you know, go after people
like that too often. Is it's just like, hey, look, man,
you're a nice guy, all right, don't don't make me
be mean, right, just just just don't make like you
gotta do the lean in a little bit with that
of like you're a nice guy. Okay, don't don't don't
make me be mean. I just want to work. I'm tired, right,
and go there you go, there you go.

Speaker 10 (01:54:21):
I hear you.

Speaker 6 (01:54:22):
Context clues or.

Speaker 9 (01:54:23):
The key is just so huge, just somewhere sure with
anybody else's logo on it, then I guess you'll be okay.

Speaker 8 (01:54:29):
No, it's it's just gonna get to a point where
it's like, all right, I've warned you plenty of times. Man,
now here comes the fastball, high end inside. That's it,
little alta casa. Yeah, warnings or not, you know what,
I'll take the wrap. John, see you right there, get
you involved in the conversation. And also to Chris Gordy
going to join us here in about fifteen minutes for
his bi weekly visits here on the show. As we

(01:54:53):
continue here, it is the Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (01:54:57):
Why You're back.

Speaker 8 (01:54:59):
This is the Sean Salisbury shown, Get back at it, John,
and Fresno wants to keep it going. On the phone lines, John,
good morning, they was gone old guys.

Speaker 16 (01:55:10):
Hey, don't look now, but the ass rolls. It's the
second seed and the whole American leg comfort just behind
the tigers. Ain't that something?

Speaker 6 (01:55:19):
Yep?

Speaker 16 (01:55:20):
And uh got a couple of questions. The first one
is now, well, the first question is the east?

Speaker 10 (01:55:26):
When the east?

Speaker 6 (01:55:26):
One is right now?

Speaker 10 (01:55:28):
Is my boat?

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
I got uh?

Speaker 16 (01:55:30):
I Kim keep doing what you're doing. He rooking the
year team in first place. He bawling rook of the
year if he keeps this up and Joe manage that
the year Now. The second question that got, I'm gonna
let y'all, i'mna go on this one with the with
the team rolling like they rolled.

Speaker 6 (01:55:44):
They said, dance with the one you brought to the
to the dance all right?

Speaker 16 (01:55:47):
With the team rolling like they rolling. All these them
pictures are really balling out. Now, Joe gonna have a
when the other players start drifting.

Speaker 10 (01:55:55):
In, drifting in? Is Joe gonna stick with the part
with the wants that.

Speaker 6 (01:56:00):
Brought him there because they bowled it?

Speaker 10 (01:56:02):
Oh? Is he gonna?

Speaker 11 (01:56:03):
Uh?

Speaker 16 (01:56:04):
Because they got chemistry? We have to admit they got
chimstry on the team right there. I mean, they love
each other, they playing for each other.

Speaker 3 (01:56:09):
DA.

Speaker 16 (01:56:10):
So if he question is when the players started drifting back,
drift him back? Is he gonna stick with the young
playoffs to cause they ballo? Is he gonna start dismissing
one by one?

Speaker 6 (01:56:20):
And I hang up the list?

Speaker 8 (01:56:21):
Appreciate your call. He appreciate the call. It gets back
to the trust thing that we've talked about. And Joe
is a guy that, for better or worse, it might
frustrate you at times, He's going to stick with guys
even when even more I think Sean, when things are
bad is when he's gonna stick with them because he
wants to enforce that belief of.

Speaker 6 (01:56:42):
Doesn't want to lose them, You're not coming out of
the lineup, doesn't.

Speaker 9 (01:56:44):
Want to lose them emotionally rightly right, My guess is
and John, this is a that begs a great question.
It's a good problem to have Dana Brown the front
offs and look at the depth we have and what
they've done. Then it's a It can be difficult because man,
the guy's rolling and Spencer Raghtty's ready to pitch, the

(01:57:05):
Colors is back right, and we know their body of
work and believe they're good to go. Good problem to have,
very difficult to manipulate and manage, to keep egos healthy,
to keep guys fresh and into it, but to also
be able to decipher what's best for my team right now.

Speaker 6 (01:57:23):
And the opposite is true.

Speaker 9 (01:57:24):
If you're Spencer Arraghetty, if you're Lance mc colors and
a guy's rolled, he's got three or four in a
row and pitching great, you may just have to understand
that it's either back to a six man roll right
or you may have to work your way back into this.

Speaker 6 (01:57:41):
I'm a big believer. I love loyalty and the rest
of it, but I also believe in rewarding people who
are rolling the right way at the right time.

Speaker 9 (01:57:49):
It's a series of moments and games and bunches throughout
the season. If you get a guy who goes out
there and wins four games in a row and it's
giving you two six and two thirds and he's not
Spencer Araghedty or one of the ones that are hurt
coming back, all of us are thinking we'll plug that
new guy, I mean, the old guy back in. But
that's a there's a slippery slope that ride it while

(01:58:11):
it's hot, and even the veteran who thinks you should
be back in probably in my case, I'm playing what's
working at the time, in the play in the field.
But there is a sense for most of us that
loyalty of what you've seen in the past and rewarding
a guy for coming back. But there is nothing wrong
with letting work their way back into it. Or you're
waiting until the guy has a tough start, and you

(01:58:32):
know the easiest he saw a tough start. Now it's
time for Spencer Araghetty to get his and you kind
of weave him in without hurting feelings. You've got to
be out of the feelings business. But you also have
to be in the I want to make sure I
don't lose them when I may need him again, because
at some point time somebody else is going to miss
a start this year or two.

Speaker 3 (01:58:49):
So it is.

Speaker 6 (01:58:50):
John makes a great point. That's a hard decision because
you can be wrong by making the decision. Say you
should have, but he can't worry about what we think.
And to me, rolling with the hot hands sometimes of
the wise thing to do. But it's also when you're
going on experiencing the way guys have committed to you
and done things for you in the past, it's hard

(01:59:10):
to let that go when they're back healthy and ready
to go.

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
Well.

Speaker 8 (01:59:12):
I mean, take a guy like Cam Smith an off
day here and there. Sure, but you're not going to
get the pronounced two or three days.

Speaker 6 (01:59:18):
Oh no, no, not now, you're not. No.

Speaker 9 (01:59:22):
But as a pit the pitching part of it, I
get when Aragedtty comes back and you're saying, no, okay,
who gives us best? If we move this guy to
the bullpen and Spencer back in, can he still be
effective for us? Can Araghetty adjust to the bullpen for
a minute while Gordon's rolling right? Whatever? It is, But
like I said, you want that decision where you got
a bunch of bodies, But it's a hard decision when

(01:59:44):
you got to tell the dude you're going back to
the bullpen and you've won three straight. But you know what,
the player has to understand. My role at the beginning
of the season wasn't really going to be much of
a role as a starting pitcher. So take the bonus
when you can get it and be prepared because you're
going to more than likely have to do it again.
It's hard to do, but it's part and parcel to
being a professional baseball player.

Speaker 6 (02:00:04):
It just is, well, it's a business.

Speaker 8 (02:00:05):
I mean, that's one thing that I think the good
ones understand is they get it and they understand it's
not personal. And if the Astros are in that situation, well,
you know what, I look at it as it's a
good problem to have.

Speaker 9 (02:00:16):
No I'd rather have that have to manipulate and manage that,
then I would we don't have enough bodies for scrambling.
I got to go make a desperate trade.

Speaker 6 (02:00:23):
Yep. Don't want that. Don't want to be in that spot.

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in Sacramento against the A's LSU. A wild ninth inning
at the College World Series, three runs to walk off
Arkansas and set up a final series against Coastal Carolina

(02:03:18):
NBA Finals Game six to night Indianapolis. The thunder of
three to two on the Pacers trying to close things out.
Speaking of that LSU game, I think Chris Gordy definitely
has a few things to say about that one last night,
as he joins us every single Tuesday and Thursday here
on the show courtesy a Karbak Brewing. Gordy, me and
you talked about a little bit texting back and forth

(02:03:39):
watching the game. We'll probably for the rest of our
lives watch over thousands of baseball either baseball games, either
college pro, whatever it is. I don't think we're ever
going to see what we saw transpire last night ever.

Speaker 17 (02:03:53):
Again, Yeah, it's I feel bad for Da Van Horne
and Arkansas. They're like the team that's like all these
the bridesmen, never the bride. They've they've they won a championship,
and they just seem cursed. I mean, it happened a
few years ago against Oregon State. They had a fly
ball that would have been a third out and it
would have you know that they would have been in
the driver's seat to win a championship and they blew it.

(02:04:15):
So yeah, look it stinks for them all. I'm worried
about guys. I'm looking at those l U hitters. I
need the Astros to get one of these guys in
the future because I've got Tari Easton on the Rockets,
like Derek Stingley on the Texans. I've had Bregman for
years on the Astros, but he's gone. I need an
LSU Tiger on the Astros. So hopefully one of these guys.
Maybe Dana Brown was watching that game last night doing

(02:04:35):
a little scouting.

Speaker 6 (02:04:36):
I was gonna say, Bear Jones, maybe you know the
first base in the future watching that what what what
do you say? And going I'm talking to both of yeys,
what do you say when you go into the clubhouse.
After it's it's almost like there's no way you can
script this ball. And I believe and I was looking at.

Speaker 9 (02:04:56):
Some numbers and watching and I heard it or Reddit,
I think Arkansas was the number two defensive efficiency team
in the country in baseball. In baseball, so one I get,
you know, is it happens the ball slicing for way
from what have you, or it's low and comes out
of your vision, but two back to back to cost
you a trip to the world. I can understand why

(02:05:18):
they feel like the old school Red Sox and Cubs
trying to find a way to win a championship. And
they've been, Gordy, one of the more consistent baseball programs
the last what decade. Arkansas has been really good for
a long time. They just can't close them out.

Speaker 17 (02:05:32):
And that's the tough part, is I mean the outfielder
taking a step back and then you know, stepping forward
and then not getting not you know, making a player
on the ball. Okay, that's fine. I'm still shocked down.
That ball rolled all the way to the.

Speaker 6 (02:05:45):
Point exactly how hard it rolled away right. It seriously
looked like it came off a trampoline, like as like
it had late life, like it gained up speed after
it was slowed down. It was weird slowed down.

Speaker 17 (02:05:59):
And my buddy goes out, even know what body parted
hit off of? Like it was it his shoulder, was
it his head?

Speaker 10 (02:06:04):
His back? Like I still don't even know what it
hit off of.

Speaker 17 (02:06:06):
But the play right before that, though, was the one
where Steven Mylem grounds into what should have been a
double play ball in the shortstop. Alloy, who's gonna be
a high draft pick? I mean, this kid's, you know, great, defensively,
great with the bat. He goes to third to get
the lead runner. It's a five to three lead with
one out. That run doesn't matter, that's it's a two
run lead. Who cares about the lead runner? That run

(02:06:29):
is insignificant. Go to second and try to turn the
double plate. If you saw how slow milem was out
of the box. They're gonna turn two and they're gonna
win that game, and it's gonna be a final and
we're playing another game today. Instead, you get the one
out and you let hell, you live to fight another day.

Speaker 9 (02:06:45):
You know what's crazy about it, too, is routine six
four to three? Right, Yeah, A routine that you'd make
just every single day.

Speaker 8 (02:06:55):
Peter center Burke, I can't remember who it was that
said he wasn't even in the runners lane right when
you when you.

Speaker 9 (02:07:00):
Could have turned it? Do you you get to a
point where you're thinking about that? And Gordy's exactly right.
We're going to talk about the two mishaps, one catching
a ball, you know, but the thing that led it
to that, you don't, that doesn't exist if you just
simply turn what you do every single day a million times.

Speaker 10 (02:07:19):
It was.

Speaker 9 (02:07:20):
It was almost eerie to watch the end of that game.
If you're an LSU fan, you're like, okay, yeah, well
you like it. If you're Arkansas, you're waking up this
morning thinking how in the hell does this happen? And
the coach is going to catch a lot of hell
And already I've said in Twitter, you get to this
far and everybody want and fired today. Yeah, as if
he was the one who made the mistake, right, you
know what I'm saying. It's weird, crazy.

Speaker 17 (02:07:39):
Definitely thought I was just gonna say I thought that
that this was Arkansas year to win it, because you've
had five different SEC teams win it consistently. The last
five years, and I thought, oh, okay, this is Arkansas's turn.
So unfortunately had Da van Horne will still be chasing
that title and the.

Speaker 6 (02:07:56):
Ace to prove it too. Going in you know the
what was it a nineteen strikeout?

Speaker 3 (02:08:00):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:08:00):
No?

Speaker 9 (02:08:00):
Yeah, yeah, Gage would The only only reason it wasn't
a perfect game is because he hit somebody. I mean,
just craziness. You probably have the most dominant pitcher in
this tournament, as good as.

Speaker 6 (02:08:11):
There is, and you don't even get a chance to
showcase him in the finals because of three routine plays
that you couldn't make. Brutal craziness. I feel bad for him, man,
I do.

Speaker 8 (02:08:21):
Baseball is amazing, but baseball is also cruel at the
same time. They found that out last night. It was
amazing last night for the Strows, though, Gordy. And we'll
start with the pitching fromber Valdez last week, grinding through
it five innings, twelve strikeouts. This one a little bit
more of a slog. More innings, he gets six and
he walks five. But just your impressions of fromber last.

Speaker 10 (02:08:41):
Night, he was outstanding. I mean, he's been so good
all year long.

Speaker 17 (02:08:47):
You know, it gets to eight wins he's just you
know what you're getting from fromber Now elay continues the
lower it's down to three on nine. I got a
feeling if he keeps pitching this way, he's gonna get
it sub three before the All Star break. This pitching staff, guys,
they are now sitting in all of baseball and Team Era.
They're pitching staff strikeouts number one in all of baseball

(02:09:09):
with seven hundred and twenty three. The Phillies are second
with six eighty eight. I mean it's not even close.
They lead all of baseball and strikeouts. They're number two
in whip and opponents are batting two eighteen against them
this season.

Speaker 10 (02:09:21):
That's the best in baseball.

Speaker 17 (02:09:23):
So we could talk all we want about the hitting,
and yes, it's it's dramatically improved here the last couple
of weeks, but the MVP of the season has been
the pitching staff, starters and bullpen, and it's freaking amazing.
With all the injuries they have to that starting rotation
right now, what they're what they're doing night in a
night out, all right.

Speaker 9 (02:09:40):
Gordy, if they win, if and when they get healthy
with some of those pitchers, and if this group continues
to roll like they're rolling, starting pitching. What do you
do if you're Joe Spata.

Speaker 10 (02:09:51):
Well, I mean it's a good problem to have.

Speaker 17 (02:09:52):
I mean, Brandon Walter and Colton Gordon and those guys,
I think they're fine, knowing if they got to go
back down to Triple A at some point. But you know,
the good news is the mccullor's injury is not is
not one that looks like it'll be long. He'll be
back here soon. Dana Brown told you guys yesterday that
arag Getty's had, you know, gonna be heading down the
Florida to start throwing there. So he's starting to get closer.
You know, you think sometime post All Star Break, Eric

(02:10:14):
Getty should be back. We'll keep an eye on, you know,
Garcia and Haave or where they are. But this is,
I mean, this is a great spot, man. I mean
you really got to tip your cap to the you know,
the coaches down in Triple A, the scouts who were
able to find these guys and it's it has just
been amazing, man. I mean, I don't want to put
jinks on it, but like you would think somebody would

(02:10:36):
be blowing up.

Speaker 10 (02:10:37):
Oh there's Colton Gordon to give up eight runs, you know,
like you haven't had that well.

Speaker 6 (02:10:41):
I mean you mentioned Javier.

Speaker 8 (02:10:42):
We get some good news yesterday from Joe Spotta, gonna
throw a live bullpen on Friday over in West Palm Beach.
I mean, seems like maybe the wheels are getting in
motion for him to make a late season return.

Speaker 17 (02:10:55):
I mean, look, I kind of there's people I talked
to in the spring. They said, yeah, look, it would
be not a miracle, but it would be it would
be pushing. I think he would come back at the
end of the season. Luis Garcia was understood he is
going to try to come back. That the expectation is
he will be back. But you know, look, if Javier
can rejoin this club, you know, September, I don't know

(02:11:15):
if he'd be back in time to you know, be
on the postseason roster, but it would just be it
would be very interesting to see him come back. But
to me, the flip side, guys, this offense is just
coming back.

Speaker 10 (02:11:26):
I mean, as.

Speaker 17 (02:11:27):
Inconsistent as it's been this whole season, they've scored ten
runs or more and for their last eight games, do
you guys know the last time the Astros scored double
digit runs back to back games September twenty twenty three. Like,
that's how long it's been almost two years since they
head back to back games where they scored double digit runs.

Speaker 9 (02:11:44):
So schedule, Yeah, shocking with that lineup too, hah, Gordy.

Speaker 17 (02:11:49):
No, it's it's crazy. But I mean, look at what's
happened with these guys the last few weeks. Jose al
Tuove in the month of June batting three to ten.
Cam Smith is batting three to twenty one in the
month of June. Don't let him get hot. And then, oh,
by the way, you're MVP of the team, Jerby Panna,
He's just batting a cool three seventy three in the
month of June. So it's it's wild they are now, guys,
you ruys their second in all of baseball and batting

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average now at two fifty nine.

Speaker 10 (02:12:12):
I mean, this is one of the worst sitting teams
in baseball a few weeks ago.

Speaker 6 (02:12:15):
No doubt.

Speaker 9 (02:12:15):
And Gordy, you mentioned Garcia and Javier, and my mindset is,
and I don't know, is if you get them back,
it's nothing but a bonus, especially now with the way
it's going. It's like, hell, if you need an extra week,
take an extra week. If this consistency continues, you're not
rushed and panicked and don't have to make a desperate
move at the deadline. If those guys get healthy, but

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you don't have to rush it.

Speaker 6 (02:12:36):
To me, it's a bonus. And if it's not, they
can still win and they've proven it.

Speaker 17 (02:12:41):
Yeah, And I mean I even go to like the bullpen,
like the fact that these guys have been so lights out.
John freaking Dubin throws two scoreless innings last night, don't
give up a hit, doesn't give up a walk, three strikeouts.

Speaker 10 (02:12:52):
That I get. It's the Low Liais, but he has
an e area of one thirty five on the season.

Speaker 17 (02:12:56):
I think you're like sixteen or seventeen appearances now, Like
this is a dude was working at Low's a couple
of years ago.

Speaker 10 (02:13:02):
Hey do you what kind of paint do you need
for that wood? Like that's what he was doing.

Speaker 17 (02:13:06):
And now the dude's going out there just throwing throwing
nails against opposing batters in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 10 (02:13:11):
It's just it's believable.

Speaker 17 (02:13:13):
You've got to give so much credit to Dana Brown
in this team for what they've done with the bullpet.

Speaker 9 (02:13:16):
I sent a couple surt of pro clients over to
Sean Duben loves he's got the apron on and now
he's like, paint, You're ass cirt of pros paint in
my house.

Speaker 6 (02:13:26):
I'm pitching too well. Yeah, good on him, man, he
be fun to watch. You can hang up the apron.
I think we can agree. Duban can do that, Gordy.

Speaker 8 (02:13:33):
I mean we've we've done it both the Astros College
World Series. You got the World Series finals starting this weekends.
Strows good series over in Anaheim against the Angels. I've
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always loaded with plenty of Crawford back to uh go
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Speaker 10 (02:14:26):
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Speaker 9 (02:14:28):
Pop a top for wins. I like that that vibe
being put out there. Gordy, Beer and baseball should always
be synonymous, right.

Speaker 6 (02:14:35):
I'm a fan. I do it. Let them play. I'll
sit back and enjoy and drink. Gordy.

Speaker 8 (02:14:40):
Appreciate it, Buddy, as always great to catch up with.

Speaker 6 (02:14:42):
You, and we'll do it again on Tuesday.

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Good morning, Robert.

Speaker 18 (02:17:13):
Hey, what's going on guys? Thanks to taking my call.
I know it's getting close to uh show change. Hey,
I just wanted to say about the like the window
closing and stuff like that. I don't think it's windows
are ever closed in sports because if you look at
the Thunder, I mean, look how many players they lost,
Durant Westbrook, uh Ibacha Harden and I mean they're one

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went away from the championship, you know, five six, seven
years later or I think it's been a little bit
longer than that. But you know what I mean, Like
it's I don't think the windows ever closed, and the
Thunder are a perfect example of that.

Speaker 9 (02:17:48):
The one thing about it, Robert is is the thing
is that they had the players but for a while there,
and we get skewed in your one hundred percent right,
especially if you're drafting well and the way that they've
done it there, But remember to a acquire all those
assets and they had like fifty of them. They went
through some coach firings and there was a lull in
there for a while. And in truth, to think about this,

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and I know it feels like more recent, but you
know how long it's been since Harden and Westbrook and
Durant have been there. Over a decade. Yeah, it's like
the third twelve, fourteen years or something. Just feel so recent.

Speaker 6 (02:18:21):
But there was that lull. There was that lull in there.

Speaker 9 (02:18:24):
Astros haven't had a lull in what nine years, meaning
not make the playoffs whatever it's in eight years, and
so there has been. But if you do it right
with the front office like Presty has and the rest
of it, what happens is you start to build that
and there's a method to the matters. The Rockets have
been through that and now they're on the way back. So, yeah,
the window only closes if your scouting department and your
team doesn't manage it properly and lets it. Now, sometimes

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it may shut a little bit fully closed. For Oklahoma City,
they went through pretty close to closing until they managed
to get all these guys and make some phenomenal deals
and get another star or two.

Speaker 6 (02:18:57):
But you're right, it can stay open.

Speaker 9 (02:18:59):
But they had to through some really really inep seasons
in order to get a lot of those prospects.

Speaker 18 (02:19:04):
Yeah, and I think I think Presty deserves like I
think he's the GM of the the last twenty years
in the NBA. Honestly, I mean he's He's done some
crazy things and and it's it's all leadership, like y'all
were saying earlier. So thanks again for taking my call
and you'll have a great day.

Speaker 9 (02:19:22):
Thank you the best gams And I know I'm leaving
to Kansas City's. I mean they've got some good ones,
but as good at GM's Baltimore when Ozzie Knewson was there,
I think he's the most. Ozzie k Newson is a
Hall of Fame front office guy, he just is. But
he's a hall of Fame player too. But Ozzie Knewson
was spectacular. But I think about them as who's the
best GMS and sports? And I'm gonna tell you Sam

(02:19:45):
Presty and Howie Roseman probably right now what they've done
Philadelphia super Bowl champs. Roseman was questioned a lot of
times he had a plan, put it together, and dude,
they seem to do everything right when it comes to
getting players now and what Oklahoma He's built the right way,
and at times I'm quite sure that fan base was like,
what are we doing another?

Speaker 6 (02:20:06):
Get going go and accumulating all these assets and now
you get the movement. We got this guy, then we
can go get this guy.

Speaker 9 (02:20:12):
Then we're in a position to get our gut, to
get chet home, get all those things as they struggled
through it. But to build it and him knowing that
even though the windows getting close, it can kick back
open in a hurry, and it did. It'd be hard pressed.
Those two guys have been as good as gms. And
obviously when Myers was in Golden State, you know, to
accumulate that group before he left.

Speaker 6 (02:20:32):
Pretty good too.

Speaker 9 (02:20:34):
That's a pretty good group and rarefied air that you
could probably give it to Presty two or three years
in a row.

Speaker 6 (02:20:39):
The way he's done this thing here in this town.

Speaker 8 (02:20:41):
I mean you mentioned, you know, the rockets and going
through it, rafel Stone of fighting the urge to hey,
this guy's out there, Jimmy Butler, you know, all of
these players, they're out there fighting the urge of look,
we're not just going to add a name because we're
adding a name. Yes, they're a good player, but they've
got to make sense.

Speaker 9 (02:20:59):
Everything can be movement on social media's feelings right since
the video game and rafel Stone's did a phenomenal job.

Speaker 6 (02:21:05):
Man his best thing. Hired the right coach. That's it,
that's his number one.

Speaker 9 (02:21:09):
He hired the right culture guy to come in and
also no personnel so they could work shoulder to shoulder.
It's obvious it's working. Nick Caserio's nick casea the last
couple of years. If you combine the last three years
of what he's done, you can make the argument. Aside
from Roseman, he's been a good as a front office
guy as we've had, building a team that desperately needed
it and lost a star quarterback in the midst of

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all this and was able to replace it quickly. Yeah,
we're fortunate here as well. And obviously Dana Brown just
pick up one after the other. And Dana has kept
going and kept this team competitive under of all the
teams with all the injuries, nobody's had more adversity of
losing players and injured players in this town than that
group right there, meaning the Astros playing in Oakland. So

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we're pretty lucky to have a front office. It's all
of them that are not only really good, but have
dealt with a lot and continued to stay the course.

Speaker 8 (02:21:59):
I mean, I don't remember if it was a caller,
if it was us that touched on it. Of I
mean just all of the turnover you've had from GMS
managers over there and personnel too, I mean of just
you know, continuously bringing in new players all throughout. And
then you mentioned Nick Asario. You know, with Howie Rose.
There's a lot of comparison there. Of when it comes

(02:22:21):
to the draft, Hey, don't overthink it, brother, this guy's
a really good plays player. They came from a major program,
so they know how to play high level football. Okay, yeah,
I think we want to add that guy to our
locker room.

Speaker 9 (02:22:33):
There's absolutely no doubt. And you never know when you're picking.
The genius isn't that you see some guy that's skilled
that runs four three. We can all see that. The
metrics tell us that the genius is finding a guy
who fits what you're doing and is able to fit
into Like the Astros, they literally it's not just talent.
They literally are looking for guys that also fit the building,
not just the field.

Speaker 8 (02:22:51):
You don't have to explain it. It's a second round pick. Hey,
you're taking a guy to Montana State. Oh, well, you know,
we like this guy. Blah blah blah. You have to
like try to do every thing you can to try
to explain it. Whereas, hey, we picked this guy out
of Georgia. He's played a lot of really good football.
He's a good football player. I'll ride with them.

Speaker 9 (02:23:07):
It's also an easier way to cover your ass if
both are equal. You get the big program guy. You know,
everybody says, I mean it's and I don't mean that,
that's not the way they pick them, but it's like, well,
I got that guy. He dominated there. He's supposed to
be a good player. Sometimes they're not. And then sometimes
you get the guy from North Dakota State who's a monster.
And then you'll get the guy that you'll say you
overdrafted him. You get both. We've covered both with Carson Wentz.

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Thought he was going to be an MVP in this league.
He was a top five player at one point, and
then two years later the guy's a journeyman and can't
and North Dakota State guy kicked ass, played well, And
you're like, that's a tale of two stories with one cat.

Speaker 6 (02:23:43):
So you're right.

Speaker 9 (02:23:44):
The safety net is draft the guys who played big
time football, and every now and then you're gonna go
find the guy and they're out there, and you got
to get lucky sometimes in the fourth ront. And Nick
Cassero has been phenomenal doing that.

Speaker 8 (02:23:54):
Well, especially nowadays too because with you know, transfer, portal, name,
image and likeness, all of that, and I always love,
oh oh, this guy was a standout at you know,
Southwest Missouri State. I'm like, then, why wasn't he playing
at Missouri? Like, seriously, if he's that good, why was
he not playing at a larger school and having more
of an opportunity to be seen.

Speaker 9 (02:24:13):
Your point is one hundred percent valid, ninety eight percent valid.
The only thing is every now and again you're gonna
get the Murray State guy or the Missouri State guy
who maybe had was a late bloomer academically and had
to go to a smaller school, or wasn't recruited because
he just couldn't get in, or went through an injury
senior year and somebody backed off him, or quite frankly,

(02:24:35):
I've coached late bloomer. Yeah, his junior year wasn't very good.
I've seen guy come up in the Michael head this case.

Speaker 6 (02:24:40):
Yeah, yeah, this.

Speaker 9 (02:24:42):
Now he knows how to study, he knows how to prepare,
and by the time he's areas dominate and now he's
become a household name. He didn't need to Now the
portal may be different, but before this portal, you didn't
need to go somewhere else. Good scouts will find great
players the key and draft and somebody from Missouri State.
You got to see how does this translate to playing
against the number one corner on every team in the
college league on Sundays in the NFL. How will he

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translate to getting off press coverage? I can tell you
how it gets off press coverage when you're playing against
one of the guys that played.

Speaker 6 (02:25:08):
At Georgia not very good?

Speaker 9 (02:25:10):
All right, Okay, how's he doing against the guy that
played at Gus Davis Adolphus?

Speaker 3 (02:25:13):
Right?

Speaker 9 (02:25:13):
Yeah, then then we'll see her at Slippery Rock, the
good schools. But you got to do a lot of
due diligence and spend a lot of time trans trying
to see how is this guy going to fit in
under At times? Will he be overwhelmed or was he
just under recruited Back when he came out of high school.

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How Shawn he kicked ass against Weaver State. Oh, that's great,
that's awesome. And ma is that's kicked against BYU.

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When he goes back a few years for the reunion,
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we've been talking about. Roger morning, Good morning fellas.

Speaker 19 (02:27:39):
Yeah, just a quick, a quick comment on the assotes
right now. You know, uh, I kind of how long
will it be before a team of mercenaries like the
Dodgers or the Yanks or any other high price team
that just you know, pretty much has a revolving door
of of a high contract guys that have just for

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one reason and one reason only. I wonder how long
it'll be before we started coaching our coaches, you know,
our pitching coaches and our guys that are in the
trenches that no one really talks about. And I wonder
how long it'll be to they started doing some stuff
like that, because I just feel like I don't remember.
I don't I don't remember a poor pitching staff from
the Astros because I don't know when. I mean, maybe

(02:28:24):
from the back in the days when you know, when
we uh we went away from the old five team
and once of the world share that we started breaking
them down, But I don't remember too much after that
having a bad, bad pitching staff, uh. And I just
feel like it's just inevitable. These guys just keep on
churning out guys who don't know, nobody knows. It's the

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name brand, household and ins and it's crazy. And I
wonder how much we can get, how many how many
baths we can get for those guys who are longing
for long relievers, mid believers, and just start as a
general and I'll just take.

Speaker 9 (02:28:59):
Your great Rogers solid ball striker too. Golf Roger loves,
Oh yeah, Roger to plays a lot of golf. It
comes on we go with the flat sick played with him.
But it sounds like he knows how to work his
way around the golf course. And great point though on this,
and it is and Roger to answer your question. First off,

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we know the Yankees and Dodgers are never gonna quit spending.
Hence why the owner goes and takes ten more billion
of the Dodgers and says, I want to buy the
Lakers is they're they're gonna keep doing it. That's their
m and that's what they're gonna do, just like Billy
Bean's teams, and they're just not gonna spend.

Speaker 3 (02:29:35):
Now.

Speaker 9 (02:29:35):
Maybe in Vegas the owner opens up says spend a
little while. I'm not sure Billy know what to do
right now, I mean affectionately what he did to do.
If they said, hey, we're gonna we're gonna give you
a hundred more million to spend, he'd be like what
I wonder if he could shift his paradigms right. But
with that, Roger, yes, yes, it's inevitable. Roger great college
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(02:29:58):
a head coach the next year, Great defensive coordinator Kirby Smart.

Speaker 6 (02:30:01):
Go run your own program at a big program.

Speaker 9 (02:30:04):
To do It's inevitable at some point in time, somebody
on the Pigeon coaching staff is going to be offered
because you can't help but to throw an eye to
what they're doing and say, this is just a constant.
What happens when you lose, when you had Brent Strong, Well,
you see it's and it doesn't matter. So the development
of it and keeping them in the game, meaning focused

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and taking care of their business and expectations.

Speaker 6 (02:30:27):
Now maybe they don't do it somewhere else. But what
you do is you bring. If you can't take the player,
take the guy who taught him. And it's inevitable.

Speaker 9 (02:30:35):
I don't know if they'll leave or I'll loyal how
much money, But an inevitable success is a great thing.
But you also get plucked if you're being If you're
the Detroit Lions great head coach, I want you, I
want you, I want Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn.

Speaker 6 (02:30:48):
They're gone.

Speaker 9 (02:30:49):
We saw in Philadelphia take those two coordinators, both leave,
go be head coaches and they're still head coaches, Gannon
and Stiching. You bring in the other two didn't work,
then you bring in two more. Kellen Moore's now a
head coach somewhere New Orleans and then vic fan Jos
is a Hall of Fame defensive coordinator, so they will
go get them and you're gonna have to prepare for it.
It's not just the players, it's other guys. And if

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the hitting gets going, you watch Cam Smith said, next
thing you know, oh hitting instructors becomes a bench coach
somewhere else. So yes, you do have to guard against it.
But it's a great thing problem to have because it
does you're successful. But it's also a bummer because man,
look what they do to get these guys ready to pitch.

Speaker 8 (02:31:27):
And it's also I think that one of the worst
things that happened to the Astros, and this is gonna
sound weird, was making the world serious in two thousand
and five. That team had no business outside of Clemens
pettitt Oswalt and.

Speaker 9 (02:31:40):
He isn't at the epitome and the poster child for
if you have no business and you get those cats
pitching and that are dominant, you'll always have a chance.

Speaker 6 (02:31:48):
But a team that has consisted of Morgan Inensburg, despite having.

Speaker 9 (02:31:52):
A don't you dare slander the USC Trojan. I'm just saying, well,
and then you're gonna really like the next one the
other Trojan Mike I am Southern California got but I
mean you get my point. Willie Tavaris out in center field, like,
what the hell?

Speaker 10 (02:32:06):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:32:07):
Winning with this team like they I mean it.

Speaker 8 (02:32:09):
Seriously was one of the craziest things ever because you
felt like when you came out of four, when you
lost Beltron and he lost Jeff Kent, that you're like,
all right, damn it man, like that was that was
the chance. But then I just think like it it
didn't give you the recalibration of realistic expectations because then
the thought was, oh, well, hey we're just a bad

(02:32:29):
a wake. Go get Carlos Lee. Oh we're just a
middle infielder. Awake, go get Miguel ta Hada, Like you
get my point here, Like you're getting guys that aren't
going to take you over the top, but you think
that adding them is going to do it. Whereas the
astros say, KYP, man, know your personnel, let's get them here,
let's let's let's develop them. Let's let's let's get them
here through our own scouting. And it's a system that

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continues to.

Speaker 9 (02:32:52):
Work and be consistent with our approach. And they are
I'm talking about you talk about dynamic and precise to
what your plan is a pretty good at it. And
then the players respond, it's all that teaching, but you
still got to go. Guys that respond have guys that
buy in. Well, I use that phrase a lot, but
buy in, I'm telling you, is as important as it

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gets anything to do, because when you're buying, you'll do
stuff that you're not normally used to doing, and that's important.
And the Astros seem to get that.

Speaker 12 (02:33:20):
Now.

Speaker 9 (02:33:20):
Listen, they're a long way away from World Series. The
thing that still sits in our head is they got
beat by a good pitching staff in a two game
series last year against their former manager. All that stuff,
you're building something, you're playing really good baseball without your team.
There's that chair, there's that dangling carrot that says, man,
when we get healthy, are we ten games better than
we are now? You start to ask those questions. But
it's also living in the Moment's okay once in a while,

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a matter of fact, most of the time, and this
team seems to live in the moment, meaning don't worry
about three weeks from now, we'll take care of that.
Live now and we'll take care of our business, because
living in the moment's going to give them a chance
to have a lead when they are healthy and then
have the embarrassment of riches on a pitching staff that
they can use for an asset if they need to.

Speaker 6 (02:34:00):
They got a lot of it and they're relying on
that right now for sure. All right.

Speaker 8 (02:34:04):
As I've mentioned, somebody here on the local scene has
called their shot. Do we believe that they can make
good on it? We'll talk about it here. It is
a Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:34:15):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Salisbury sho that's beautiful.

Speaker 9 (02:34:22):
Yeah, it's been on how long? Hold on to it
for three years? It'll be worth fifteen jeez.

Speaker 8 (02:34:26):
Unbelievable certain things afforded to certain people. I guess real
quick here, and we can maybe even touch on this
a little bit more tomorrow. Titus Howard, Texans last week
when they closed out mini camp, catching up with Jonathan
and Alexander of the Chronicle talking about the offensive line.
What's gonna be different this year. We're gonna be more
nasty upfront. We're going to get more gritty guys finishing

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more plays. We need more guys on the ground, we
get done with them. We just got to be a
nastier group up front.

Speaker 6 (02:34:56):
Sounds like he was listening to this show. I like
the idea of it. Sounds like it.

Speaker 9 (02:35:00):
I don't mean any problem. He probably not, But I'm
being a little bit facetious. But my number one trade
and talking to great linemen and watching them is not, Oh,
you guys got good hands. He can bench press the
team bus that.

Speaker 6 (02:35:14):
You need those. Yeah, good teaching helps.

Speaker 9 (02:35:16):
But find me a great technician who's not nasty, and
I'll find you a guy who gets his ass handed
to him regularly on Sundays. It is nasty, is setting
out here a million times in the eight years. Nasty
is the number one trade I want. I want smart
guys at work and do it all. I'm assuming I'm
getting that, I hope. But there's got to be a
hint of nice guy in the world. When the ball snapped,

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he's the meanest prick on the planet under Controlrick, if
you get my part, And I think to me, since
i've been here, since I've seen the change, you know,
even with Bill O'Brien, but the change this offensive line,
the last let's just say six or seven years. To me,
they've got They've had some talents. Tunsil is a good player.
Brown Dwayne Brown was good player. They've got some good players.

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But I can tell you this that nasty has been
the one the major trait that's missing. Major And why
would an offensive line be. He must be hearing it
because if you're not nasty, then you're you're at the
bottom of this league. Philadelphia's offensive line was as good
as we had in the league las year destroits and
I'm telling you what they are mean as as a

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junkyard dog is a crap house rat, and it's the
same thing here. You approach it like that, the technice
will come. I can't teach nastiness. You either got it
or you don't. Now maybe it's in there. My job
would be to bring it out and keep it out.
As a coach, Nah, you give me nasty, and if
he lives up to that, this offensive line and team
will be different. If they're just talking it and not

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walking it, then you'll get the same stuff. Good technique
at times jump off side, but they don't finish because
guys aren't on the ground. I want a nasty mean
group of guys that protect their own and when the
game's over, they're the nicest guys in the world.

Speaker 8 (02:36:58):
Means the best I've played with. That's who they were.
You've had that in the past. I mean Chris Meyer's
Wade Smith, those offensive lines they had that. I mean
it was even in the zone blocking scheme. We're running
the football. You know we're running the football. Doesn't matter,
we're still doing it.

Speaker 9 (02:37:12):
The best ones I've ever been around approach it that way,
and they're a pleasure to watch play. If you're standing
around a pile and the whistle hasn't blown, you better
be prepared to take an ear hole shot, and then
then they're willing to risk the penalty for it to
protect their own teammate. This team is lacked, not defensive nasty.
This team is lacked what they have a linebacker have

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here at safety, Guys that if a body's moving, you
hit it, did it, and no apologies necessary. The offensive line,
for those big fellas, when they get it, it will
permeate through the whole team. If it hasn't already, that group,
your offensive line can't be the least nasty group on
your team. Nico Collins is nastier than that offensive line
has been.

Speaker 6 (02:37:54):
You're damn right.

Speaker 9 (02:37:55):
If you're going to come up and greet him, you
better bring everything you got or you're getting a stiff
arm or forearms, shiver to the face and he's running
through you. So when your offensive line is the nastiest
guy you got, I mean, you're Steve Smith when he
played at Carolina. When your offensive alignment are the least
nasty and your wide receivers nastier than you, not skilled,
but nastier and skilled, then then you better step it up.

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And if they match Joe Mixon's nastiness, Nick Chubb's ability
to run you over, Nick Nico Collins, We're talking about
three skilled positions that you got to match their nasty.
We shouldn't have to say that. I hope Titus Howard's right.
The team will change if they are for the better. Well,
I mean, and that's the the burden of proof is
on them now. I mean, they're the prosecution in this case.
That's what it is. Is that they have to be

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able to show that that is going to be the
case this year. Because I've said it before, you'll have
it all the time.

Speaker 8 (02:38:45):
Oh, we're a tough. We're a physical team. You don't
have to tell me that, you show it.

Speaker 9 (02:38:49):
To guess what they're going to get seventeen Sundays or
Thursdays or Monday's way, seventeen football games to prove it. See,
that's the one thing when it comes to nasty and tough,
we're not the only thing we're judging. The judgment's going
to be sometimes technique, you can get a little nitpicky.
You're either nasty or you're not, and it shows, and
it won't be subtle, subtle, subtle nastiest an offensive line

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means they don't have nastiness, right, it's subtlest tyson.

Speaker 8 (02:39:15):
Punched to the face, right, that's what it is. Hopefully
they bring that on Sundays for sure. All Right, that's
the Sean Salisbury Show. He's Sean Salisbury, I'm Dan Matthews,
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