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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salisbury did okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
To usc Troupes, longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Dan Matthews, this is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
One two curveball bounced softly up the middle charging Paine.
Heatfield scholves a second for one Rogers the first. That's
to score at six to four to three double play
to get fromper out of trouble. Now the pitch and
Paenia Rockets went deep to left, going back on it
as Collins on the warning track looking up.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
And that ball is gone.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
Just did clear the fence. A three run hold ron
for Jeremy Payna and the Astros lead at six to one.
Painia's fifth of the season to two round ball for
the right side of base hit.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Payina scores al two. A big turn at second, but
we'll stop there. East Sack Parades with an RBI single,
third time he's reached today, seven to one. Astros first
pitch a guyner DZ and he linesys over the leap
of Capra down the left field line. Our two Bay
scores right behind him is Parades. He scores as well.
A two run double for Yiner and the Astros lead

(01:18):
is nine to one, the kick in the one too,
and that's lifted to left pretty deep. Dubond racing back
as a play makes the catch on the jog on
the warning track, and that is the ball game. The
Houston Astros pour it on in Milwaukee as they defeat
the Brewers nine to one to finish off their six

(01:39):
game road trip on a positive note.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Hi remember us, you know us?

Speaker 6 (01:44):
Well, normally we start about fifteen minutes earlier than we
just did.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
But we are here. Now.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
You know, technology, sometimes it just happens. But thanks to
Tripoli back behind the scenes, able to get us back here.
So U no, no, no, I'm not Tripley's fault was
the reason that we got back.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Oh yeah, I don't know. I don't know necessarily whose
fault it was, but who's counting? Yeah, But I just
said I didn't know because when you walked in, you
started saying, I can't believe triple he screwed this whole thing.
Those words never once came out of my mouse. SA false.
I'm saying Tripley would never do that. He's been on
the show and never miss a beat. And here you are,
bus tossed a him. It's the weirdest thing I've ever heard.

(02:26):
You know that is that is textbook projection? Where were weird?
You just all of a sudden thought it was, you
know what, triple E. Better re introduce him to it.
It sounded a little bit like, uh, maybe racist, Like
I said that that never happened. It was his textbook projection.

(02:50):
Walks out, frustrated, We're not is it one of those
that's true? That's got to be triple hiss fault? I said, no, man,
triple he doesn't miss I rejected. I rejected on premise alone.
I want that to be on the record. I don't know,
what do you think, dog? I mean, Dan's fairly you
know what, what do we six weeks eight some weeks?
So yeah, I think we're six weeks in TRIPLEY. I

(03:12):
don't know, man, I don't know if he knows the landscape,
the culture you and I got in this show. But hey,
I think sounded a little it was sounded weird. Yeah,
it was kind of sounded weird that he blamed it
on you, but hinting at it, is that what you're getting?
What am I doing? Like I said, I rechecked the
premise alone.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
But anyway, counselor all right, I'll tell you guys what
so we will go ahead take our normal what would
be our first break of the show. We'll come back,
we'll start to show off in earnest and technical issues.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
What can we do? So good work by you two
like in earnest really nice nice Saint Thomas kind of
get ready for college.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
Word, that's it. That's a college preparatory for a reason.
That education really paid off. What can we say? So anyway,
is the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven to ninety.
We'll continue next.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Load them up and get a comfortable where you're hammering
him from the start and you got a big lead
paying his home run. So yeah, man, we were begging
for when you got both the same day, when you
got yeah, great pitching performance, but win two to one
or three to one, right, and now you got or
you lose a game where it's seven to one or

(04:33):
it's three to two, and maybe win one that one comfortable, aggressive,
hell of a pitching performance by Fromber. That's what's maddening.
You'll get that one and then you'll get one. It's
like the Dow Jones part of it. But dynamic, precise
performance by him that exploded and you got yourself will

(04:55):
win and it was much needed. Need to say, I'm
talking about the explosion of it and from er to
go out at the same time. That's how the team
I think we expected to look.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
If you really wanted to do the nitpicking part of it,
this game kind of had everything. I mean because it
had the good which was that where you know, you
get the three run homer from Jeremy Pania and then
you get the three runs there in the top of
the ninth inning, but I mean you get the fifth inning,
I mean is a prime example of that of you
get the couple of runs. I mean, Zach Decenzo, what

(05:27):
is it about this guy? Like I almost feel like,
you know, because I've said when he does good things,
my name for him is Enzo to Zenzo. You know,
he just did that. That seems like it's a good
name for him. But like something along the lines of
like you know, the lizard or the snake or something
like that. And where I'm going with this is his slides.
I mean, this guy just has a way. I mean,

(05:49):
remember you had that slide against Toronto about a week
ago where you know, it looks like he's gonna be
dead to rights at the plate, and somehow he just miraculously,
you know, just exactly knows where to put the oven
mitt like right there to the big body, to the
back part of home plate to avoid the tag.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
And I'm just like, how the hell did you do that?

Speaker 6 (06:08):
And yesterday I'm thinking because number one, it was not
only where it looked like the third baseman made a
hell of a play at the plate. But I mean,
you know, just you look back at the replay and
it's a good job by Joe Spot and his staff
to see that of saying, oh, no, no, no, he
got in there, he's safe.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
And I was almost wondering.

Speaker 6 (06:24):
I was like, are they going to try to do
the call stands and all of that just because they
called him out? But I mean, it looked definitive enough.
And sure enough they came back and they put the
palms down and said two nothing astros, all.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Right, are you? Which was a in the momentum starts
to switch. I'm a big in game momentum guy, not
a game to game momentum guy, right. Sure. The confidence
that goes with it, that's that's the other part of it.
Did you just mention the Astros in really good base running?
Maybe maybe not a guy that bats the second right now,

(06:56):
but everybody else sure good, it's smart, high eye Q
the base running right. I'm just I kid, but yeah,
and how big that body is is still you know
what I'm saying, is he that's just that's that's my
size doing what he does, nimble and can move and versatile. Kids,
he's going to be a great player. Yeah. I think

(07:18):
he just said to me he's got a makeup right,
and he's physically imposing as well to to somebody else.
And if they if they put it this way, if
the performance matches the physical presence, nearing for a hell
of a player. So, but that was that was a
big win against a I think it's a good you know,
if he ever does Milwaukee. Maybe it's the size of
the market just doesn't get talked about. But they're always

(07:40):
and it's a division as well. Yeah, I mean, but
they're always around, sure, sure, always are.

Speaker 7 (07:45):
Well.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
I mean I think a big part of that is
I mean, what twenty eighteen they made an LCS but
aside from that, they really haven't had much they I'll.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Tell you what it's been and they've had more success,
but it's been Toronto Blue jayish Yeah yeah, good, you know,
bats and sure, phenomenal arms, that's right there. It's phenomenal
arms where you're like every year we go in thinking, okay,
this team's that. This is another after they when when
Hater was there and they had all those monster young

(08:13):
arms all the way starting guys pumping at one hundred
ninety eight through the entire line, right, I mean going
back to full stack Prince Fielder and Braun those teams. Yeah,
that's exactly right. So then you start to roll forward
and you know with the yellich is now they've had
some really good talented arms and players roll through that
and they're still there. So the kind of reminds me
in that, you know, I always want to think Milwaukee

(08:36):
Brews is an American League team because when I was
growing up, they were right. But you just the Toronto
were expectations and then sometimes we'll say, okay, we're going
to temper them, and then they end up winning a division,
hangar or making the playoffs. So they're they're kind of
that's that feel where talented, you expect more and they'll
hang around all the time, but then they just don't
quite close it out.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
Well, I think it's also it's regional bias, as you
mentioned that. You know, you mentioned the the blue Jays first,
and then I said the Padres is the blue Jays,
obviously they're overshadowed by the Yankees and the Red Sox
that you know, the Pods, Yeah, Padres, Dodgers, maybe even
you can throw the Giants in there too, But.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
You can throw Milwaukee into the weather Cubs and that's yeah, yeah,
so but you're able to salvage a game in the series.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
But you know, like I said too, I mean this
game had everything in that same fifth inning where then
you get Brendan Rodgers to score on a wild pitch
to make it three nothing.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
But then you get the dreaded bases loaded.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
Two outs, and you get with two outs to load
the bases, a couple of walks and got that apt batch.
Just it it angered me so much watching it live,
where you get Yaner Diaz coming up there, the first
pitch almost hits him and he swings at it and
fouls it off, and I'm like, you just.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Had two guys walk on five pitches to take to
take the pitch.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Then go.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
The frustration, and that just goes back into paying attention,
especially a guy in his situation who's a catcher. You're
thinking understanding the situational part of a game, even though
you're at the plate, like you would call it if
you were behind the plate bingo. Yeah, like a guy that.
You try to get a guy to throw a strike.
And what have we heard.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
About him all throughout this road trip? I mean, the
Astros haven't been winning, but he and Jake Myers have
been seeing the ball well and hit the ball wall right.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
So if you're doing the first part, you're seeing the
ball well, shouldn't you recognize that ball's about to hit you? Yea,
and the guys just walk, so don't swing right. Make
it's well, it goes back to the Hey, what would
your little league coach say? And when you're an on
deck circle, make him throw your strike? Yeah, make it
take it, throws your strike, you know, and you did,
or you do the ninth hitter who was afraid to

(10:43):
go to the plate and you're talking, Hey, it's okay,
it's the balls there to swing it. Otherwise, if you
don't like it, don't swing at it. Crouch down low
in your stances and hope that the eighth grade pitcher
can't hitch out. But in truth, yeah, you walk up
prepared for that situation, and it was just because it
was little league yoush of Hey, yeah, you know, make
sure make sure he pintre throws your strike and walking

(11:05):
around like a bugs bunny cartoon where keep walking if
they're not going to throw strikes. But you know, I
think that's part of the process. But you'll overlook that
you're right. And this is the time when a game
like that is when Joe spot can when I say,
criticize this team because they just come off a big win,
right and score a lot of runs as suppose if
they'd got their brains beating in the game. It's like, well, okay,

(11:25):
I don't need a browbeat them. So that's the time
he brings up Okay, Jiner, let's think about the game
situation Boom. Good coaching time when you where you can
get their ear because they just had a good game.
But you can coach them harder then because their their
mind's not cluttered with oh gosh, we lost a game
and we lost five or six or six or seven.
So I would imagine you take advantage of that, But

(11:48):
there's always something to find that's not what you want.
But I'll take I'll take those kind of almal damn
near double digits all the time. You give us that
you don't even need all that give that this team
go get on a run if they start swinging a
bat like that.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
I was going to say, I mean, you put up
nine runs, you feel good about your chances. I mean
we you know, mentioned the record splits of when they
score three or more runs, then they're what eleven and three,
and then when they don't, their record is a little
bit more shunder.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Five hundred, right, yeah, by by a fairly decent amount.
I mean, I think by the stat you read.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
So.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Yeah, moral of the story is, put put up four runs,
you got a chance to win it all. And when
you get a pitching performance like that, that's when Frommer's
at his best. You're going to get ground balls and
you're going to get a very few guys on base
other than a couple walks. That's that's how he went
five five guys what he walked two or three but
struck out his you know, he's still worthy of to

(12:39):
nine ten strikeouts when he's got stuff like that. But
seven innings, did his gig and got run support. That'll
win a lot of games.

Speaker 7 (12:46):
Well.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
Plus, I mean, we saw a few more baseballs on
the ground, which it's like, if you're talking about that's
from that's a problem.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
If the balls down like that and you're getting ground
ball after ground ball and double play opportunities, that's who he.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
Is, for sure, for sure, So the astro is able
to wine. Yesterday the Fred van Vliet deadline for the
team option with the Rockets. It's been pushed back to
next month. In the Texans resigned defensive tackle fully fought Akosi,
speaking of fromber mean, let's talk about just how good
that guy was yesterday and exactly what you needed out
of him.

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Speaker 1 (14:48):
And we're the Shawn Salisbury Show continued. Do we need
it with them?

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Well, I don't know. I'm just trying to get believe
good songwriters. They are all right, and they do a
lot of good collapse they do, you know, so I'll
give them credit for that. Energet They bring some good
energy as much I can say who got the bar
in Nashville because they didn't have I was going to
say that went south like that sound like a bad marriage.
Who gets the family piano here? You know? And they

(15:16):
had it all. I mean, everybody loved them. I mean
I'm talking about yeah, their peeps. It it was good.
It was good summertime bubble gum country music there to
to us now what the Beg's were to us in
the seventies, and then the Begs became classic. Oh my gosh,
they were bubble gum then. Yeah. So it's like, you know,
in the moment, you don't appreciate it. Later you do

(15:40):
more than you can even imagine. Yes, but Ophelia Ophelia. Yeah,
but I uh, you know Florida Georgia liked the breakups,
man egos, politics, uh huh. I think that was part
of the case. That was what they Yeah, and then
then didn't you know you've got people you know, battling,
no what, just but the comeback, if you'll make the comeback,

(16:03):
it gets a good pr MoU make the comeback, you
probably make double the money.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
Well, I mean, like we saw it a few years
ago with Motley Crue where they played their last show
in twenty fifteen, I think. And then The Dirt, the
biopic that wasn't a full on documentary, it was just
you know, other people acting as them, and and that
came out and that had people listening to Kickstart my
Heart and everything again. So then finally Nikki and everybody
were like, well, guys, and be honest here, there's some

(16:28):
money to be made here if we want to do this.
So they were like, yeah, yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Best friends. Just sometimes that intensity'll give you even a
better concert because you're like, you know, he's a little
rage at it when you're talking about that, and you
know there's just such a motley crew.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
What correct me up about it because I went and
saw him play and they played here in Houston too.
I do remember that. But like where people, Oh, Vince
can't hit the high notes anymore. He's not twenty five anymore.
That's why he reached puberty. So yeah, you can't go.
He can't take his voice there anymore. Again, go, so
you do have the female backup singers who will kind

(17:07):
of like fill that in a little bit.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yeah, that's okay, And that's fine, that's okay, you got it. Hey,
you've got to play the hand dog.

Speaker 6 (17:14):
And when I and when we went and saw him,
Mick Mars, who's like eighty now, so you see him
up there playing the guitar, well, I mean yeah, I
mean he just he looks like a grandpa up there,
and he's just you know, he's got the tattoos everything.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
That's it. Let him shred that's it. There's no age
limit on shredding. I wouldn't think so, okay. I mean
I think the only age limit is the one that
you put on yourself in that regard. Not good, I'm
too old.

Speaker 6 (17:38):
Yeah, maybe it's Gary v who knows, you know, we
saw him on TV yesterday. Maybe maybe that's something he'd say,
or or even is it Tony Robbins.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Would would even be him, could be all real tall.
He's got a set of choppers on him. Sure does.
Oh yeah, I don't know. It's like the family guys
a picture of him up there. They asked who it
is to say, well, that's either mister ed Or or
Tony Robbins.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
And he put a He put a curse on Jack
Black too. You know, I always love that, Jason Alexander,
What did you do with my friend?

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Jack Black? Made him see the inner beauty in people?
He does have some veneers, now he doesn't. He's veneered out, okay,
but he's still motivational. That's all I care. That's it.
I can see through the teeth, but yeah he can't.
So but in truth, Dan, this, I don't know where
we went with this rock and roll babet being break up? Yeah?

(18:35):
You know he gets you in your fields hollow? Are
you more of the did you like the dark haired hall?

Speaker 7 (18:42):
Is?

Speaker 4 (18:42):
He no hauls the blonde? Right? It's right the other
way right? Think so I'd have to look it up.
Who made you? Who bricked you up a little more?
I mean when you checked about who made which? Neither?
But I just really enjoyed their music. I mean when
you looked at him, you said, man, watch one of
those guys were there. You know, one's got the bust
stache of the the blake jacket of the has got

(19:04):
the feathered parted down the middle. But it's pretty much
like one of those like, what what's your type?

Speaker 7 (19:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Probably lot to the tables both. So would you take
after take a right? When you check said, let me
figure out what he and they're hitting the good bar
A good good look at that duet. But then you said,
well which one off it makes you hoardy? Yeah, which
was like I said, I would probably say neither, And
I'm actually gonna go ahead and take this step further.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
There's no there's there's there's no probably in there. I'm
just gonna go with neither.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yeah. I appreciate your music, but but why the world
do you always tell me you were used to be
attracted to part of down the middle feathered on the
sides when that would happened to that? Why why don't
you listen? Don't cheat the peeps? What you doubt me?
During the break about man that hall guy with the
feathered and party.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Hey, what did Rocky people change? Actually, it wasn't rock
that said that. It was a tweeter that said that.
The John the box there there you go. You know,
things change marks. Yeah, who that give people the reference?
A lot of people don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Oh oh, our audience knows. Your tweeter is Festy Blues.
There you go. James CON's son, Scott Scotty Kahn. Yeah,
a little hawaifi. Oh guy, yeah he was, he was
Dan O's right, it's correct. There you go. Of course,
I just wanted to make sure, like if it was
a Haul or Oats that you were you know, there
they got you. You know, they moved your needle. That

(20:27):
didn't sound right. They backed that up a little bit,
moved the needle. I mean, if it works for you. Yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
I'm not gonna They're both still alive, right, yeah, they're
both still alive. And then I want to say, Darryl
Hall just played here. I think Daryl Hall is the Blonde.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Again.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
I'd have to look it up, but he just played here.
We gave away tickets. It was like a month ago.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Then it just doesn't sound the same Hall without Oats.
Now you know what I'm saying you have to have
you have to have a little bit of that crooning
ladies and gentlemen, Gladys Knight right without without pips. I
was going to say, where the pips, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (21:02):
Our girls silly called in and said Hall is the
blonde one.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
There you go, yeah, Darryl Hall, right right, yeah, yeah.
It was the Oats that probably, I think Oats breacked
me up a little bit.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
I think what the issue was was, you know that
you finally had Oates was like.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Why is he always first?

Speaker 8 (21:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Why does he first? And also like I think Hall
sits in front of the pig. Isn't Oats the one
standing up the time? Yeah? What?

Speaker 9 (21:26):
What?

Speaker 5 (21:27):
What?

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Are a complete buzzkill for Oates? I mean, yeah, Oates,
I mean I can understand they probably call him otz probably.
I mean I can understand his argument a little bit
more than I could, like, say, like if the Heartbreakers
had gone up to Tom Petty and been like, hey,
why isn't that the Heartbreakers and Tom Petty because you're
not the star of the show, because I'm Tom frigger Petty. Right,
It's like I told you that this story. I think

(21:48):
I've shared it on here of David Hasselhoff. I think
we know who David hasse They do they do? They love,
they love the Hoff.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
Then he became Mitch Buchanan on Baywatch, but that he
wasn't very happy with this compensation with NBC when he
was doing Night Writer. So his agent went to Brandon Tartakoff,
who was the head of the studio, and was like, hey,
my my clients, you know, feels like he's being underpaid.
He's he's prepared to walk if you guys don't meet
his demands. And Tartakoff looked at his client, or looked
at his agent, and said, tell your client, star of

(22:18):
the show is the car and if he still wants
to be employed, he'll be on set tomorrow morning at
eight am.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
And where was David Hasseloff right next to Kit on
set at eight am, wearing the leather jacket ready to
get inside Kit's right? Who do you think was who
do you think pulled more Hasselhoff or enter prime? Pam Anderson?

Speaker 6 (22:36):
Oh Man, Well, I mean we've got you know, we've
got the film on on Pam And I'm not saying
that to be fun. We literally have the tape I'd
go with the Hoff. You think Hoff pulled bar in Pam, Yeah,
because of me. Hey, I know he's maybe hot. And
Germans loved David Hasselhof.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
They do. I got to remind you that I'm gonna
say Pam Anderson probably pulled more than hassel Off.

Speaker 6 (23:02):
I mean, she seemed pretty monagamous though she stayed with
Tommy all those years.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
You know, I didn't say this is just all It's
not did she go out and actually hoe out? I
just said who can pull? Who pulls more? If they
were if they were wanted to pull, who pulls more? Oh,
that's that's not yeah said, that's not who was a
bigger hole? Wanted to know. It's we always play the
game of who pulls more? Meaning if they walked into
a bar and he said, okay, i'll see you later on,

(23:27):
who would pull more? Oh, Pammy Anderson. Yeah, it's not.
You know, it's not about what their marital status. It's
like if they were if they were pulling, who would
pull more when they walked in?

Speaker 8 (23:39):
Our guys Scott called in. He said that Oates was
a total leech. He said that Darryl Hall wrote all
of this or most of the songs, so.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
He glombed on Darryl Hall. Hall's the whole king of
the show. You're just here. Yeah, Oates is just a
warm body. That's it. Just armonize and shut up that.
He basically said, the breaking news hit the sounder. Hall
did it all. That's it the shirt tomorrow, Hall did

(24:11):
it all, and we'll have Oats over there like me
like or or on Haul's back. You're back to the championship,
yad man. I wonder what Oats's response to that is, Hey,
you gotta know your role and play your role. I
didn't know that about Ots was he was a real
locker room cancer, that guy was. That's that's that's what

(24:33):
we found we we now found out this. But this
is such a buzzkill to me. A caller tells us
that Oates is a leech. It was Robinson wanting as
much as Batman, it was Luigi wanting as much as
Mario Man. That's a taiale. As old as time cuts
me deep, he was the one I thought I might
have pulled the hot card. But let me get back

(24:54):
to Hall. Okay, let me go back to Hall. I'm
investigate Hall though.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
Yeah, yeah, he's he's the glue guy happened. But you know, Oates,
you just didn't really understand that. What can we do?
We can we You can only help yourself. We can't
help you.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Look what a hal elks haul at Oates song led to? Yeah,
and we figured out that Oates is a leech. This
show rolls, this show rules unbelieves were off the charts. Hey,
you know that Oates was a leech. That's great. We
get the DOSSI on. I love it. I love it.
I don't even have to watch the behind the music.
I just got it right there.

Speaker 6 (25:32):
Anyway, let's get back into diastros conversation if you want
seven one three two one two five seven ninety. Once
again that seven one three two one two five seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
He wasn't good.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
He was something else. We'll talk about it right here.
Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
This is this Seawan Salisbury show.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
He is uh. I think kind of an understated talent too,
don't you? Oh?

Speaker 6 (25:55):
Very yeah, because I mean I think most people remember
him for his more recent stuff of tears in Heaven,
you know, because obviously for you know, an awful so emotional.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
I mean that's too, that's too real. Yeah, that's too real. No,
what I'm saying is meaning that that's story is not
made out of just making something like that guy that
that was well too close to home for anybody.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
I mean especially too. I mean there's people out there
who know that feeling.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Absolutely sad, very so. But I can't imagine how you
wrote the song.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
Well, I think that was part of the how you
performed it, right, that's part of the therapy of it. Yeah,
I mean it's kind of a way of like you
to be able to, hey, this is this is me
working through my grief right here and letting them know
that I still think about it.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yeah, And that's but the emotion to be just to
get through, you know, with the three minutes or four
minutes of the song tough to be on a on
a more lighter note, the Thunder because I'm going to Vegas.
Can I still get your season tickets? That can borrow
them from the Thunder down Under? Could? I You've mentioned
Thunder and I thought, oh man, I'm still gonna let

(27:00):
me have his season tickets for one show. Yeah. I
was tricked in the paper to a p s L
for that one after.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
You know, Blue Man Group, you know, I'd only gone
for so long.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Tell the truth, you had that one in Blue Man
group tricked you into, but it wasn't thundered out or
you got I thought you well, you told me you
used to have like in row ten, and then you
decided you got to move up.

Speaker 7 (27:20):
Now.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
Yeah, they gave me the options, so I went with it.
And you know, I'll come from so I can go appreciate.
I don't hate. I'm just I'm just making it because.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
I got my buddy from you. I gotta go got
my buddy Vinnie from Jersey Shore on me too. Yeah.
I mean season tickets, yeah, you know like Lakers Fenway
Park right here at dyk In Park, little hockey, So
maybe we Detroit wherever we want, Chicago maybe maybe even

(27:50):
you know Buffalo Sabers right right have that. But then
my favorite season ticket that we always talk about is
your your thunder down under that. But those are I
can't wait to youze them. I mean the way you
tell I mean, I don't know how you. I mean,
you've followed them around more than Bill's that guy again
or actually no they're Australian. There's that guy again. But

(28:15):
how selfish you've been with those tickets. Did how many
times can you go? You got merch everything, send it
numerous times if you want to go. Man, just to
ask please, I wanna get out there. Don't give me
all The lady wants to go see it. I know
really wants to go see It's about more of my
golf buddies. Yeah, it's like three years I've been asking

(28:37):
for a ticket. You're like, no, dude, I go. I'm
there all the time. I'm like, dad, share some thundered
down under. You say, well I did. I moved my
seats up to the first row. Hang out. You're said,
that's one of the that's a that's a precious season.
It's like the Masters. Well, I'll tell you I have
a thundered down priceless about once they start playing, everybody's
working for the weekend. You want to talk about how

(28:57):
that theater goes into a frenzy. I mean you know,
I mean you got you got season tickets. I can't
wait to be frenzied. Man. I'll report back to you.
Do we get free food down there and stuff? Or
do we gotta go if you want to eat there? Yeah,
especially in the first row.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
Yeah, I was gonna say maybe maybe eat before you
get your seats, get your seats and enjoy the show.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Yeah, but great, thanks for your I really appreciate your
You're such a giver. Dad. Hey, you got to give
the people what they want. And if people want, are
they expensive? Uh no, they didn't send me back too much. Yeah,
a couple of hundred thousand a year show. But hey,
who's count right? You know you love that. I don't.
I don't get into another man's wallet. Man, you know, tickets. Yeah,

(29:42):
I'm with you, man, But thanks, I appreciate it. I'm
looking forward to going and seeing it.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
Hopefully, get get some get some good eats out there,
some good drink, you know, maybe maybe a couple of
table games there, and then go see Thunder down Under.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Is it's a good trick? Is it worth going twice?
Or sh I just go once? I think once you've
seen it once. I think I think you've seen it enough.
You know, speak for yourself to that's it. That's it.
You know, some some have their vices. What can we say? Well,
I don't hate you for it? No, no, how could you?

Speaker 6 (30:07):
Anyway, Well, we'll get into some astros discussion here and
also be able to squeeze in some of the other
things that are on the topic list here today. So
we've got all of that right here at seven o'clock
hour on the Sean Salisbury Show coming up next day.

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Speaker 6 (32:38):
The Astros nine to one winners over the Brewers, salvage
a game in that series off today, Rockets pushing back
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seven ninety the number two get in the front Sean.

(33:01):
I hadn't really had a chance to get much into
that this morning, but I threw it out on Twitter yesterday,
where I've numerous times used the hashtag good Fromber, and
it's like, hey, we need good Fromber today.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
That's what we need. Good Frommer's what thirty million dollar pitcher.
Good Fromber will get you paid. Yes, absolutely, good Frommer
gives you a chance to win games. He's getting ground balls,
maybe a couple of miss swings, you know, all of
those things. That's that's good Fromber. Yep, he was great
Fromber yesterday. Ye gives hashtag great farmer and the fromber
that John Smoltz thinks is as good as there is

(33:34):
in baseball. And the problem is John also loves the
right hander that comes after. And John's pretty I don't
want to say critical, but but I I the best
in the bit and why wouldn't he be?

Speaker 6 (33:45):
It's the old I know how to do it, so
of course, don't you think I know what I'm well?

Speaker 4 (33:48):
He also knows how to do it as a starter
and a closer, and the approach of mechanics is a
golfer and a pitcher the broadcast new studies every team
and everything and a freak show fanatic on preparation, and
he knows how to teach it in short period stints
in between pitches. Right, So he loves him, I mean obviously.

(34:09):
And heck, if Smoltzy was the guy giving us the
you know, making the final vote on the one two
you want your lineup for your lefty righty, I got
news for you. There ain't three teams rolling by without
him missioning this team when they're at the best. He
thinks both of them are frontline aces, right, and that's
saying something. But the guy you saw yesterday is the
guy that that's the maddening part of it for me

(34:31):
when I see it, I've now got the ten carrot
diamond rings sitting in front of me man or whatever,
you know, the pot of gold, right, and then I'll
see the other side of him, And that's the side
that makes you go pay one hundred and fifty bucks
an hour to lay on somebody's couch and say, talk
me through it. This guy's so good. How we're the
lapses And I'm not talking about the one. Hey, you

(34:52):
roll into Fenway, the winds blowing out, you get a
few pitches up, and before you know it, you're down
twelve to one because they're having one of those days.
And they're pretty good, right. Who doesn't have that. Nolan
Ryan will have one, Bob Gibson will have one, Randy
Johnson'll have one. But by the third ending you're like, dude,
you just still have it today. Well, okay, those happen.
It's the frequency of the the extremes. Right now, he'll

(35:16):
eat innings regardless, but the extremes of and you know
when his emotions get a little sideways, right, And if
you ever were to match the emotion with the fluid
wind up and the strikes and keep the ball where
he's thought to where he wants if that would have
met that poison comm when he pitches it first, you
feel really calm because you think, least the ball stand

(35:36):
in the ballpark, right, And so there's that calm if
is if that part of his emotion when he throws
a bad pitch, Okay, he gave up home run, it's
all right, and just gets right back into it. When
those two if they ever come together, or I can
take it. I mean, there's some guys that you can
look at and say, Okay, that guy, just the way
he goes about his business, you know, oh, give give

(35:57):
him a little bit of a hundred browns of that
part of it, right, and because that farmer's not far
off from it. But it's those little things that I
think mess you know best. It's not even the big thing.
It's not like somebody hit two grand slams off. It's
a little stupid stuff, and it's like, and I can
raise my hand of that in a different way. I
had a time and I went to it and I

(36:18):
don't know why dan it hit like in the early
middle of my career, right, maybe even early. Is that
all the things you know you do and you can do,
and then all of a sudden you go into a
little slump where you're like not pulling the trigger, squeezing
it too hard and as a quarterback saying, there's no difference.
So you're pared by analytics, right, and you're overthinking everything

(36:40):
and I couldn't. There's a period of time where it
was like, you throw a bad ball and the old
the guy a week ago, it's a call. You know,
we get the yips too, right, like a putter. The
guy a week ago would have said, I don't I'm
throwing a second one, because I've always had a little
bit of a gun slinger approach to playing shocker, right.
So but then that then it got the point of
going over there, mulling it over. How'd you miss that

(37:02):
curl route that you'd make the throw in your sleep,
And then the next time there's a flat route and bloom,
you'd open too far and yanke it into the ground
or miss a little high, or the guy catches it
but it's a little behind him, so it's a catching
attack instead of catching a run for a first down.
Now we're hunting, and so you go through those things
and it's like, man and I let those fester as
opposed to moving on and the cheesiest you know what's bigger,

(37:23):
the windshield or the rear view mirror, the windshields to
look through. That didn't get over him fast enough for
a stint of time, and then you wake up one
day and say, this isn't happen anymore. I got to
go back to being me and you hopefully do right.
But that's him that if he just would get out
of his own way and whatever that is. You have
two cy young candidates on this team, legitimate I'm talking

(37:44):
about lights out in the you have. I'm not comparing
him in their careers, but you have the same high
I was gonna say, Heisman, you have the same cy
young feelings you had with Verlander and Cole on the
same staff that either one could win it any year
they pitched. Sure, they're not there yet with the length
of their careers, but you get my point right, and
you have that, and if you get that from fromber

(38:07):
everything else becomes easy for the rest of the start.
I'm just convinced he is such a key to this
because you're running him out there. I mean is you
see this stuff for me yesterday? You can't RESI the
dangling carrot of gosh, this guy's so good. And that's
going to come a problem when they decide if they
don't know, if they're sitting on the fence. That's what

(38:27):
they're gonna have to deal with in these negotiations. Is
he worth it? Is he school? Is he that guy
where he's a dominant left hander in baseball? And can
he sustain it? That's what they know he can. Can
he sustain it? It's the big deal. Well, it's also I.

Speaker 6 (38:40):
Mean, there's a couple of different things that will get
him to have his flare ups out there. Maybe it's
a borderline pitch that was called a ball, and sometimes
that sends him behind the mound where he tries to
compose himself and you're like, oh, I hope we still
get the dominant guy when he gets back up on
the rubber.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
And then the other one was how fitting is it?

Speaker 6 (38:59):
It seems like every single one of his starts he
has one of those tappers up the third base line
about halfway up, and it's just like, ah, that's what
kind of like, you know, it annoys them, you know
it like he either throws it away swinging tapper.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Yeah, and then sometimes he'll grab it and wheel and
throw it into right down down the right field line.
But then yesterday he gets that, he gets that ball,
fires off the mound and throws him out and they,
you know, go to replay and still call him out.
And I'm just like, you know what, I can't think
of a better way to end today. Like as soon
as that happened, I was like, seven innings, he's done,
get him out right right and then and he did

(39:32):
his thing, and he did his thing all all seven innings.
So impressive. That guy makes you that guy, that guy
right there says man paying before he hits free, you know,
of course, but that's gonna be a decision they're gonna
have to make. They if that's the guy you get
ninety percent of the time or eighty percent of time,
he's gonna make thirty million bucks.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
He's gonna I mean, it's one of those you know,
difficult that you hear, you know, front offices talk about
all the time pitches like that, and we get the
majority of that for.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
The rest of the way. Put it this way, regardless
of what happens here, somebody is going to throw a
huge load at him because he's a lefty. The huge load. Yeah,
let me back that up. Throw a huge load of
cash at him. What do you mean cash or something? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
back it up, bron I was talking about. Back up
that Brinks truck right to get paid at the back.

(40:22):
He's gonna get the bag, right, He's going to get
a big bag, whether it's here somewhere else. Even if
he doesn't pitch cy young basement, if he pitches just
decent the rest of the year, he's getting paid because
he's a lefty. And you've seen flashes of more than
flashes of oh my gosh, brilliance. So he's getting paid.
The question is how much and where you want to
make it to the show?

Speaker 6 (40:42):
Start throwing left handed or if you are left handed,
start pitching.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Yeah, and keep the ball down yep. And when he
does that, you don't even have to throw. Now, if
you're one hundred and five and you're Randy Johnson or
Undtherd three that God bless you could throw strikes.

Speaker 6 (40:56):
Be that guy now, But I want to heads put
the bat away. You want to make forty million dollars
a year, do you want to try to hit a
home run Every once in a while. I know another
club you can cut a home run out if you
want to hit a home run and yeah, or head
on over to the driving range, pick up a seven
iron and start beating balls.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
There you go. That didn't sound right either. We better
get to break Now I'm backing up. You're going to
get the load of cash and now we're beating balls
on the range. There you go, there you go. Unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (41:21):
All right, this is a segment that I almost kind
of feel like we can just call we found another
idiot because this is Yeah, it's on a daily basis.
Trust me, We've got plenty of them. It's right here.
Sean Salisbury show.

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It is a Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talks seven ninety Astros,
nine to one winners.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
Yesterday with the Brewers in Milwaukee.

Speaker 6 (43:10):
They're off today, Fred van Vliet and the team option
deadline was supposed to be tomorrow. They're pushing it back
to later next month. And fully fought a Cassi back
to Texans on a one year deal. All Right, Sean,
As I mentioned before, we stepped aside momentarily that we
could pretty much call the steakeout now today's version of

(43:30):
someone's an idiot, because I mean, we seriously get it
every single day, and in this case today an international
idiot because dateline here we go to the Philippines and
this was a story through the Daily Mail. A twenty
nine year old hops over in enclosure at a zoo
attempting to take a photo with what he thought, at

(43:52):
least to what his words were, was a fake alligator.
He hops over the fence, gets in and there's a
little pond right there and he decides, all right, I'm
gonna take out my phone.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
I don't know if he goes vertical. I don't know
if he goes horizontal.

Speaker 6 (44:07):
But then, you know, thinking to himself, all right, hey,
you know, I'm gonna take a nice little selfie of
me and the fake alligator. The alligator was not fake.
The alligator then decided, Hey, that arm you got right there?
Right or left, I don't really care. Kind of hungry.
They fed me a little light today.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
Well, guess what you're new. He's no longer hungry. Oh,
he is no longer hungry. That's the alligator just decided.
This was in the Philippines. I was going to say,
you were going to say Florida. You wanted to say Florida,
but that probably will be some people.

Speaker 6 (44:41):
But the second best odds was Louisiana, Mississippi seems to
kind of float under the radar for that.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
I got him right around my crib. I am we
got him here too. Yeah, they're everywhere, So I uh,
that's not real smart. But I guess that lesson learned.
I would have think so I would have very much
the hard way. Or I guess with his arm, I
mean his arm is still intact. You still got the arm.

Speaker 6 (45:07):
But the alligator then decided, because what I have to
believe the alligator was trying to do because people think,
you know, oh, alligators they swallow people whole. Eventually, I
think they get there. But what they do is they
try to grab you, drown you, and then start to
go to work.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
On It's the smartness of them. They're gonna They're gonna
take the easy battle, right you, squishing and squirming and
fighting back. But here's the other part of all of this,
is there stupid people out there.

Speaker 6 (45:34):
Well, I mean, yeah, that's that's a given on it.
Fifty stitches is what he got. He's lucky, that's all
I was gonna say. Yeah, and you think that's one
of those two, either the nurse or the doctor whoever
stitching them up that you know, if you've ever been
to the doctor, like when I was dipping and I
used to go to the dentist and I'd have the
dental hygienist, you need to quit dipping.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
I'm not trying to be a mother to you.

Speaker 6 (45:54):
And I'm like, well, then how about we just clean
the teeth and then we can just keep it moving here?

Speaker 4 (45:59):
You know, Yeah, this is one of those when they
go in there they're stitching up saying you know what probably. Yeah,
don't do this again. If you learn a lesson, you're lucky.
It's fifty stitches and we're not putting a fake arm
on you a different leg.

Speaker 6 (46:13):
Or or even you know. It seems like he needs
in his life. He needs a John Dutton. Remember when
Jamie gets hurt, like either on a bull or I.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Forget what he what it was bull riding. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 6 (46:23):
Yeah, yeah, Jamie got hurt bull riding and Dutton tells
him learn the rope.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
I'm not paying for this twice, right, that's exactly right. Now,
he chewed his ass out? What did he What did
was that when he was in the hospital bed. Yeah,
he was went in there and visited him, said boom
boom boom, got it, Just don't do it again. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (46:39):
And then Jamie of course tried to get on the
Bucking Bronco got hurt again, and that's when John said,
you're going to the four sixes. I have no use
for you here anymore. Then he became a man, He
became a cowboy. They turned him into the real thing.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
That's it. Where's that real ranch exists? Where is it
that shared his ranch in real life?

Speaker 11 (46:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (46:57):
I don't think it's far from San Saba, but the
hell San Saba. It's like northwest Texas. Okay, so on
the way from here longer? Oh no, like what you said,
West Texas? Yeah, northwest okay. So yeah, hey, we're headed
towards the Lubbock and then that route mid Midland Odessa.
Gotcha out there in true oil. Yeah, I mean it's
the rolling plains, it's all of that. So they're out there.

(47:19):
But that, yeah, that's exactly right. So lesson learned in
your fortune. Fifty stitches. It'll make for a good story,
but the second time that that happens, it probably won't
end in fifty stitches if you're an idiot. Here's the
thing that I can't get out of my head. Here
is because you know this was a human doing this.
That happens all the time, and.

Speaker 6 (47:34):
That part doesn't shock me, right, but it's We've been
to Houston Zoo for example, right, I've been there numerous
times as a kid.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
All all of that.

Speaker 6 (47:43):
When whenever you have a fake animal, are they ever
in the enclosure? No, they're right there near the enclosure.
Like if it was a fake alligator, well then it's
right there. And if you're really so hard up to
get a picture with an alligator. Do what me and
the missus did when we went down to South Florida.
We did this off to her and then they bring
one of the tape mouth shut little baby alligators.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
You get a picture with it. It's in truth, in
no rush to get the picture. I mean if if
you do and somebody's got one with it, but then
with the mouth shut, it's like, well that takes away
the excitement, right, So let's see if I can get
the picture in before I get my shoulder chewed off off. Yeah.
I just there's a little common sense. I mean, there's

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a lot of things people do for memories. I can
file that one in my mind. I don't need the
picture to show it.

Speaker 6 (48:30):
I can get the selfie behind the enclosure.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
Sure, there you go. You know if somebody, hey, look
at your thumb's pointing back at the in the enclosure,
hints they're in there for a reason. Yeah, that one
you mean? Yeah, okay, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
Yeah, that's that's that's where can get I don't I
don't have to have the lifelike experience right there. I
don't need to be sometimes a lifelike lifelike experience isn't
what you want. My little brother, we were living in
Arizona and we had lived out in the country. When
I say the country in Arizona was out. We had
a couple acres, right, we have horses and pigs and
chickens and on a farm. And there's a hand there

(49:04):
are people everywhere, you know, every couple of acres. And
one had some like monkeys on their farm. You know,
they had they had a farm, but they also hadn't
close monkeys. Awesome, and my little brother, dude, we went
up there close. You know, they'd let you go around
and look around.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
And another neighbor had like fifty stray dogs that kept
trying to eat your chicken. So you can imagine what
that was like having around with my old man and
and so go and you're looking over there. You know,
they got kind of a mini little mini little zoo
right farm monkeys. My little brother it was like five
or six time stuck his uh, got his head too close,
turned around, the monkey grabbed him by the back of

(49:36):
the hair. Dude, And I'm telling you now there was
you wouldn't fire would to have happened to finally let
him go That monkey and you know when they get
you in your grid there there are they can be mean.
And I right there and he was, and I mean
he screaming and yelled, and you're you're trying to get
away with the harder you try to pull, waiting for
somebody to come out. And I'm telling you that monkey

(49:57):
was not letting go. Finally they came. I got I
mean chunk of hair. Thank good as the kids small,
but I'm telling you the fear factory there might have
been even the fear that hurt worse of the pulligue
of the hair, because there's only so far you could
pull it here that the cage right, and my brother's
going crazy, and the morals is there's always that I'm
not going to quite get as close to the cage
because they're too athletic and they moved too quick. And

(50:20):
then they're looking at you while they're doing it, like
test me. You know what I'm saying. You don't want
to hurt the animal, but you're like, you're you're scalping
my kid. You know that's that's the monkey or the chimpost,
not my kid. It was my kid brother. But yeah,
you're you're scalping my brother here he's going crazy and
up and said, you're backing away like my hair involved.
But that's what we all had full heads of hair.

(50:40):
That's that's the ape telling you I'm your boss. Yeah,
I'm your boss, and they look at you and Daria.
It was crazy and he never got close to a
cage with the monkeys in it again, but Lesson learned
at an early age.

Speaker 6 (50:53):
I mean it's like, you know, if you watched the
Joe Exotic on on Netflix. I mean one of the
ladies had their arms bitten off. Yeah, and then I
mean he gets attacked a few times.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Probably probably that's they're then they're too athletics to make Tiger.
What are you doing? Yeah, stay out of the lions
that guy.

Speaker 6 (51:10):
Man, it's just the amount of red neckedness that was
in that documentary, like Bunny.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Bounds, there's no question about it. By the way, to
our small business owners out there, Good week, isn't it
National small business owners? I believe so all of them
out there across and we we deal with a lot
of them here, So shoutouts to just our love for
them because they make it go. They're they're not getting
shop small business, they're not getting shoutouts or shoutouts. They're
not getting selfies.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
Another s word with with with what they believe are
fake alligators and enclosures.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
No thes and they got something else said yeah to
our small business owners and those involved, thank you man,
love you guys.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
That's like when we did that thing in South Florida.
It was funny of the guy. You know, if you
ever were chased by an alligator, they tell you to
run zig zag, he goes. Honestly, just once it gets
close to just step aside, they'll run right by you.
And I was like, I don't think I want to
find that out.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Yeah, well that's because at some point in time to
practice it, you, I mean to get to see it,
I actually have to practice it. Yeah. So if you
practice it in one false step and you don't have
a heel, that that's that that takes you to a
whole new a whole new part process of you know,
an Achilles injury. Not willing to risk it, brother, thank you,
that's for real secret. Now, if I can get on
his back and do that, we can try that. But

(52:25):
I'm not going to wrestle with him. I'm going to
leave that to somebody else. Who's a far dumber than me.
I was going to say leave leave it, leave it
too well. I mean I would say leave it to
Steve Irwin. But yeah, too soon, too soon. Yeah, sorry,
that's he's like, you got kids, you know, kids are
off limits. Steve Irwin's off limits. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 6 (52:43):
I apologize to the crocodile hunter, his family and all
the fans, and I give big ups to thank you.
Look right, yeah, the big up, big ups to Steve.
We see you up there, buddy, there you go, thank you.
I like how your eyes went up there with some respect. Absolutely,
absolutely you could go out. You can go over the
line sometimes with Irwin. We're not treading there. Stay on
this side, Dan, I try, I try.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
All right.

Speaker 6 (53:05):
Coming up next, this guy's epic night had him feeling
a lot of regrets about it.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
We'll talk about it here. Sean Salisbury show Jbarn Barbecue
j M Barbecue, twenty two oh one Leland Street. So
what do you when you think about a restaurant? Well,
a few things coming to mind. Obviously location and they
got a good one great parking lot, which is nice.
You say, Sean, what's a big deal about a park lot?

Speaker 11 (53:27):
Go there?

Speaker 4 (53:27):
And see what the big deal is. You know, when
it gets crowded a place to park, it's awesome, all right,
Then why else do you go there? Well, customer service
has to be good. It's a no brainer. Hoffe in
the group greets you when you come in, and you'll
feel like it's one of those barbecue places in your
own backyard where you're entertaining. And he got the indoor
in the outdoor. So the entertainment value of bringing your
dogs on a Saturday. They have music going, they have

(53:49):
certain events going on, drink specialist, food special it's all there.
And then, of course what's as important as any can
your food carry itself without worrying about location and worrying
about having a baseball game across the street. And Jbarm
Barbecue can got great menu, great sides. Go in there
once and then once you go in there, you're gonna say, Okay,
I may live an hour and a half away, I

(54:10):
came to watch the Astros player, or now I don't
need the Astros. I'm gonna drive because when my kids
or family come to town, they've got to go to Jbarm.
And that's the way I feel. And the very first
time I walked in there. After I'd finished eating and
dealt with Jbarn Barbecue, I realized, this is the best
barbecue spot entertainment wise, food wise, and customer service in
this city. Pop on in there. You do not need reservations.

(54:33):
It's twenty two oh one Leland. It's jbar M Barbecue.
Nobody better spend a little Saturday in there, get a
little breakfast, taco boom, grab yourself some of the great
great barbecue. Jbarn Barbecue dot com. Jbarm Barbecue dot com.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
We're bat there. But the Sean Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
I mean it was. You gotta be awfully thick skinned, right,
very much. I mean, it's real and the but it's
also a roast at times, and you've got to be
so thick skinned because family is not off limits at
a roast. No, that's what I'm saying, you know what
I mean. So, I mean, you could be the most
sensitive over something that happened a week ago, like a

(55:14):
divorce or you're separated, and they will hey man, somebody
else banging you.

Speaker 7 (55:19):
You know.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
You know what I'm saying. There will be They're relentless,
and it's all Listen, the truth is it's all in
good fun. The one thing we don't think about enough
in a roast is the collateral damage to the other
family if they're you know what I'm saying. If a
kid's ten and they will what do they do with
the dad ball? That could become a problem. But you know,
anybody who's had that success, we all have the mahoney

(55:44):
moments where it's like, Sean, you idiot, or you're laughing,
just stupid moments when you were in the tenth grade
with your four buddies. They all remember that time you
run around your box, you know, stupid stuff right, and
you make mistake, but they don't forget. I'll always remember
the roast part of it. So I think they're cool
as hell. But man, sometimes you're like, gosh, like, what's
the comedian of the female's name? Yeah, I mean, I

(56:07):
all in with it and zero zero regard for any
the bodies that are strewed all over.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
And it's you know, it's anytime there's a celebrity roast,
you know that Jeff Jeff Ross is going to be
involved in it. And as soon as they introduced him,
I was like, of course, it's like, that's what this
guy does he's like the celebrity roaster. I guess I
don't know, but anyway, and he's priceless too with it.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
Oh yeah, no, I mean, look, you know, you know
you're laying you stay in it. Well.

Speaker 6 (56:31):
Tom Brady was recently on the Logan Paul Impulsive podcast
and he said he actually regretted doing the roast, saying,
when you're in the moment in that theater that night
at the Forum, it was electric, it was crazy, we
got done, everybody was on cloud nine. Then I that's
the moment that I think I will never forget, and
then I will never forget when I talked to my

(56:53):
kids the next day, and I felt a steak go
through my heart, understandably saying that he felt like a
blank up as a parent afterwards, which it's like, I mean.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
That's that's the collateral damage I'm talking.

Speaker 6 (57:08):
Sure, I understand that, but I mean it's also though,
like I mean, some of his kids are not necessarily
old enough, Like I feel like.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
His oldest twelve or something. Well, it's got to be
his first child with Bridget moynihan, with Mohan, Yeah, I
mean I think like their first child, Like, no, I
want to say, like it's in college now, like to
was he wanted to Bungeon? Uh, he was with her.

Speaker 6 (57:29):
I'd have to look it up, but I mean the majority,
so the majority of his kids are with her.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
But and the majority of his other kid's life he
was with Jaselle Bungeon and you know fathering from you
know with I think that the child spends a lot
of time with His oldest son is seventeen. Okay, so
that's that's that's he and Bridget moynihan from you know
the the What's the Blue what's the movie with Tom Seller?
This show with Tom Selleck? What do we call oh

(57:54):
blue Blood blue Bloods. It's a great show. Yeah, and
she's you know the d A, now the DA she
was mediated, so she's the boss. But she's on there.
So that's there. So they have a teenage kid who
was roast was two years ago or so something like that.
I think it was about these two years ago. So
you got to think of fifteen, you're in that fragile mole.

(58:14):
You just are. And I'm not saying you shouldn't do it.
I'm just I'm trying to take okay when you're saying it,
you got to know it's your daddy's famous, but think
about it. If that kid's fifteen at the time, the
other ones are ten, eight, seven, whatever. I think two
or three other kids that are younger kids are ruthless
at school. Oh sure, and that's what you could be doing.
You think you're doing great parenting because you missed one

(58:37):
or somebody brings up something from your past that you've
never explained to your ten year old and then they
hear it at school because their dad told the mom,
and the mom's talking to kid and everybody kind and
not saying it's it's fair. But when you're that kind
of celebrity, you put it out, even if it could
be something really stupid, dan or so something that you like.
But then you got to think of Giselle Bungeon, regardless
of why they she made whoever knows, because she I'm

(59:00):
sure got her things too. And is she having another
baby with her trainer? Is that she having a baby.
Isn't she pregnant with his kid?

Speaker 11 (59:06):
Now?

Speaker 4 (59:07):
I don't know, I think so, I thought so so. Whoever,
the reasons why they got divorce isn't what I'm talking about,
but the fact that somebody is sitting home watching it's
not like us. It would take it with a grain
of salt. That's the fragile age of fifteen year olds, right.
And I don't know if it bothered him or not,
but my guess is when Tom said that, it's like
when you go back and you're sitting by yourself rewatching it.

(59:30):
It's funny at the expense of you. But then you
got to think, well, it's kind of self serving because
now if you're outside the relationship, now it's not that funny,
sure for a kid. And then you got to go
back to explain and he started, Then you start to
go through that self doubt, like there raise my kids,
right that I miss and everybody's gonna miss on certain
things about raising your kid. And I don't think it's
that serious from our vantage point. But remember the reason

(59:53):
he said it. Is it something about it triggered and
bothered him, or he wouldn't have said I regret doing
it all the laughs and stuff. So there's something deep
seated on this that I'm not a psychologist, but you
wouldn't say that if the lasts were fun and he
got in the moment all the hype. But it's I
always say, like when I tell kids about social media quarterbacks,
and I'll say it every clinic I've ever done, or

(01:00:16):
every camp I've ever been, or a parent, if your
mom or your grandma, you'd be ashamed to let them
see it. Don't hit send. That may save you a
lifetime of regret, or may save you a scholarship. Don't
hit send. And that send is a like button because
somebody was holding a beer at twelve and joking around
or holding you know, I'm talking about all those things,

(01:00:36):
the appearance of being around it. Those people will your scholar.
They will not touch you. So there's that there's that
part of it that you know, don't don't hit that button.
And in this when you're sitting alone, you're going those
kids and they're ruthless. So I don't know why, but
I do get why he'd say, you know what, after

(01:00:57):
seeing then you go on social media and see all
the com shack gosh, this can be misconstrued. And that's
the unfortunate part about it. I don't think he's bothered
for him. I think it's part of the perception of
what comes out from a comedian being a comedian doing
their job.

Speaker 6 (01:01:09):
I feel like, though, like once they you know, they
get into their twenties that it is kind of going
to be family fodder of like, you know, dad, don't
forget I know this about you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
Here's what happens. Yeah, you take it from a guy
who experienced it a different way. Okay, but similar If
you know what I mean, I got you. So you
go through it. There's that period of like damn, hurt
and all those and then as they get older they
realize and then they start they start realizing, oh, I
understand what it's like to be a dad or to
be you know, to be married or divorced or today.

(01:01:41):
Then you start to see it and they're grown enough
to handle it and say, you know, I'm a grown
adult too. I went to college, right right. They said
they roll through that, but at that fragile age, there
is that period. I'm I assure you Tom's apologizing at
times or trying to miss you know how we tread
lightly when you're dealing with your kids on this, because
whether it's kids or X, peace is important and it's

(01:02:04):
the collateral damage. The grown adults can handle it. It's
the collateral damage for kids that may be the problem.
You always want them to think as your priority that
they are the priority and they should be so I
would imagine he's going through that. See, even the greatest
quarterback of all time has insecurities and fears and bothered
because it paints it different and sometimes perception to the
person that's feeling it, it's reality, even though it may

(01:02:26):
not be to the outside world. But it's just the
age thing. If you're thirty and you're pissed at Tom,
get over it. You deal It's not your life, you're
as you're not the you know, the family counselor or
the rest of it. They'll deal with it. But then
on the other side, I get Wyatt because to everybody
on the outside he led the life of perfection, supermodel him,
married kids, all the money, superstar. But even he had

(01:02:48):
those of you come home and you don't want to
talk to your wife. You know, everybody goes through it,
and then when it's painted as some of these great
comedians can. You got to be careful what you sign
on for. Man. I'm just glad that because I mean,
I think Bill was what Jordan then I'm just glad
that Jordan didn't try to hijack and be like, oh yeah,
I remember this would have been like, you don't even
know the guy. You don't even know the guy off
the stage.

Speaker 6 (01:03:09):
Now, I know some people are gonna say, well, neither
did Tony Hinchcliff or Nicky Glazier. They're comedians, they're professionals,
they're funny. You are neither of those things.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
So I just laugh at who are you talking about,
Jordan Nuts, Oh yeah, yeah, I just for me, I
can imagine. I can't imagine what it's like to have
to live that life that everything you do is microscope
everything you do, Jordan Brady Woods, you can't live this
more successful you are, the less freedom and piece you have. Yeah,

(01:03:42):
I get it, I know, I know. Listen nobody. So
I'm sorry for a guy who's you get what I'm saying.
Sure that there's still got to be that would it
be cool just to walk into a movie theater not
have to stop? And for those guys I'm talking about,
there's got to be some parts that there is a
price to be paid to be that good, well by
sacrifices for family as well.

Speaker 6 (01:03:58):
You got the money by disguise. You don't get one
of those mission impossible, man, Can.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
You imagine have to walk out of your thing every
single time. Like that's my point is just when you
and I can go out, nobody cares. They walk it.
It's like it's an ordeal. I would imagine just to go,
I gotta rent out the theater to watch a movie,
right the Jason stathamsay, I mean, are you kidding?

Speaker 7 (01:04:16):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
But the fact is you at the buddy to buy
the theater. So if you're one of those guys, but
there you can get. You get the price that that
piece and that every everything your kids do, Oh you're
so and so's dad and the pressure that has to
be on them. Yeah, not easy, and kids are really
they're ruthless. Yep, at that age for sure. For sure,
we all went through it. It made us the It
made us the people we are today. Carl, see you

(01:04:38):
right there.

Speaker 6 (01:04:38):
We'll get you in on the conversation if you want
to join in seven one three two one two five
seven ninety seven one three two one two five seven
ninety Dana Brown joining us nine thirty This Morning Today
Here on a Thursday edition of The Shawn Stalisbury Show.

Speaker 9 (01:04:53):
Let the Celebration start war Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
seven ninety Carl, good morning man.

Speaker 12 (01:05:03):
That was a great monkey story. Tell Sean, because they
bite two they're strong. But uh, they gave you a
good experience. They didn't have glass on the cages or nothing.

Speaker 13 (01:05:16):
Little kids on our field trip went up to the
page and the monkey bit the top of zero.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
Yeah, there you go. There you good story.

Speaker 13 (01:05:25):
But anyway, I called about how I think they're taking
the human factor needs to be put back into to
the NFL. Uh, you know on these guys, because look
at Brady on nine pick sixth round and you know
what his report was on the combine von weak arm

(01:05:46):
and no athleticism.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
Yeah, how that turnout? Right? How that turnout? Yeah? It
turned out pretty good for him.

Speaker 7 (01:05:53):
We go, Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
We go old school.

Speaker 7 (01:05:56):
And you remember a guy named Steve Largin.

Speaker 12 (01:05:59):
I don't know if you remember that Wi.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
He was my teammate my rookie year. So yes, I
know him. Well, well let me.

Speaker 13 (01:06:05):
Tell you you know him about the history Charlotte.

Speaker 7 (01:06:08):
He couldn't even hardly run a.

Speaker 13 (01:06:09):
Five flat forty bum Phillips cut him from the Oilers.
In fact, get to an Allers training camp. Bum said
to everybody, he goes, Hey, that was the biggest mistake
they ever made. Getting rid of that little you know what, and.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
I'll tell you something about him. Still still the best
route runner I've ever been around, Largin, still the very best.

Speaker 13 (01:06:28):
Yes, Oh, I'm just giving y'all. You know, I think
they need to put the human factor in and stop
relying on statistical things.

Speaker 7 (01:06:37):
And you know there's some guys.

Speaker 12 (01:06:39):
When I played football years ago, they couldn't practice for
the gang, but on game day made them guys look
like superstars, you know. But anyway, I'm just giving y'all
that human factor. I think we need it back. And
a great report about that monkey Shan.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
I appreciate you, Carl, thank you. And yeah, that human factor.
I think a lot of us crave that, don't you.
What's the scout's eye here? Dana Brown talked about all
the time, But I mean, which made them It's become
And I don't want to say easier. It's become because
there's so much information. But maybe that's not easier. Maybe
with too much information, it's too clouded at times for
for anybody in a leadership position in sports, right, so

(01:07:18):
much information to go through. You don't want to lose
the human touch, but you need the information to at
least give you because if a decision it's been made
and it's eighty percent of the time, or in investing,
if I told you eighty five percent of the time
you're winning, You're you're gonna you're gonna get ROI what
would you do? You'd be have a propensity to say,
I'll lean there. Right, it's the same thing here.

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
Well, I mean it just it kind of clears up
the picture a little bit because I mean, numbers, it's
not subjective. It is what it is, right, and it's
it's those are that's evidence right, facts?

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:07:47):
So I mean you know when you have those, I
mean that kind of feeds into it. But I mean
the best to do it. They're the ones that are
able to take all of that information and then come
to some sort of an educated guest.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
There's no perfect player, and you know what else about
that day? And it's also when you turn your back
on that particular plan, not saying fully when you turn
your back on the number says because you've got a
guy on the mound and Hunter Brown's been through a
bad inning in the six, but they say this guy
hits three seventy against him, But the two previous at
bats or three previous at bats, he's struck him out.

(01:08:21):
So while the overall numbers say tying to get him
out because the guy that's up next to bray you
has struck him out four straight times. But then there's
that feeling when you're on the top step, it's like,
you know what he's going good in this particular game.
This guy's pitching on his way through it and then
goes and strikes him out. There is that feeling of
sometimes you've got to discount a number, and that's where

(01:08:42):
the field part comes in. But it's just avity. Now
what you do with the evidence of the facts is
on you. But the human element still comes into and
the best your exect, the best coaches all around know
their players and know their personnel, but they also understand
the numbers. And when every now and again, we're all,
i think, in sports and maybe in life, programmed to

(01:09:04):
think that we're smarter than the numbers. And you make
those decisions based on emotion sometimes just as long as
it's not one of those desperate emotional moves.

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
Or people tell you not to take a quarterback because
you know, no Ohio State quarterback has ever done well,
or oh yeah, that s two tests, it didn't do
so well on it. I think Nick Cassirio is pretty
fine with ignoring both of those talking points.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
My favorite thing is when somebody says you've had like
three different coaches or coaches, and they say, don't draft
the receiver from that school or a quarterback from that
school because well, in the past they haven't been very good. Well,
it's not the same coach, it's a different coach or
a different coordinator, and it's a different player. Well because
because somebody else struggled, I can't draft Sam Darnold, or
because Ohio State fields hasn't turned out to be a

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great pro yet. But CJ. Stroutt, So I'm holding CJ.
Stroud back because the guy who was at Georgia transfert
Ohio State. I shouldn't to me each a. You got
to compartmentalize or you're going to miss out on a
lot of great players. And Ohio State only had like
four undred guys drafted this draft. Yeah, CJ. Stroud was
not Craig Crenzel. I think you got a chance that
the one was a really good college player the other

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was both.

Speaker 6 (01:10:09):
You think that Craig Crenszell woke up today thinking he
was going to catch a stray.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
I don't think, Yeah, why who in the world? Why
why are you attacking? And in the process, didn't you
say I hate Craig, Craig Kensel, Craig Krenzel And uh
you think he woke up today? Why the stray from you?
It's just you know, CJ. Stroud's better. What do you
want me to say? So, I'm Crensull, nothing personal. I
think Crensill probably probably listening was the like like he

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as a guy, like he's a guy, didn't like his
players quarterback. Yeah, crens didn't deserve that. I actual this
morning wanted he's got a ring? Yeah he damn right.
That's much more than all. He woke up this morning,
probably grabbed some coffee, maybe got the kids to school,
headed over to his job, probably you know, probably running
a finance company or something. He just he just got
a text. You know, hey, this guy in Houston is yeah,

(01:10:54):
man time and Crenzell's probably it's oh yeah, I'm listening,
because he probably listens every morning. Yeah all right. Radio Yeah,
precede iHeart Radio preset one Sean Salisbury show here on
sports Talk seven ninety all that, but I would think
think that Crensill probably his feelings are hurt this morning.
Dah amazing. And then to tell me you hate him
before you said that he wasn't a good NFL quarterbacks.

(01:11:15):
Weird man. Sometimes my emotions get the best triple a, Yep,
you guessed it, Yeah, you guessed it, or two for
two per day to say it triple you know, same page.
It's okay, Dan, hang on there, buddy. All Right, Crenzel's
day has just changed because of you, and you know,
try to leave people better than you found. All Right,

(01:11:35):
I'm sorry. Eight clock hour is coming up.

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Let's get in a little bit of Texans because I
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Speaker 6 (01:12:29):
Sports SOX seven to ninety eight o'clock hour is here.
Dana Brown coming up in about an hour and a
half here for his weekly visit. Astros winning yesterday nine
to one over the Brewers. The Rockets pushing back their
deadline for a team option on Fred Van Vliet to
later next month. In Texans resigning defensive tackle. Fully fought
Acasi to a deal. But the Texans were a pretty

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wide receiver heavy in the draft, and we'll have a
lot of new faces there on the field when they
get out there for OTA's in mini camp here in
about a week, which I think, actually, Sean, we're less
than a week away from the schedule release in the NFL,
So that means that I guess what May fifteenth, So
a week from today, Oh, we're gonna be wall to
wall every bit we're going. We're going Game one all

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the way to Game eighteen seventeen.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
However they play sure we are, Yeah, absolutely. Let me
ask you, are you one of those guys who you
don't want to do the list, you don't want to
do the mount rushmore? You know all that you know
actually is the weakest game games that's the one, you know. Yeah, well,
I'd like to see if somebody gets hurt in training
camp before I make a prediction on their season. Oh,
they're going thirteen to four. Man, yeah, oh man, And

(01:13:40):
then all of a sudden, Oh and Lamar pulls a
ham he's gonna be seven weeks now, tell me they're
still fourteen A for us, I waited to make my
bet phone lines, what's your prediction? Exactly? One three two
one two. We will not be doing that. And the
mount rushmore of draft picks on the day after the draft. Yeah,
is with uh now was up sitting here getting lost

(01:14:02):
in the caught up and all the hype of the
draft picks. Oh, with the schedule and all that. I
you know, are you one of those guys that set
your not talks about it? But do you like sit
and watch everything? Do you go? Will you watch all
that the schedule release because you want to book your
flight and do all that like some you're not throwing
a you're not throwing a schedule release party. No, okay, no,

(01:14:22):
I'll get it. I'll look at it really quick. Hey,
how many Sunday nights, Wednesday, Thursday Monday night game home games?
Like a Christmas game something like that. That's that's about it.
Even as a player, that's what I do. I'm not
not really who we playing because I know I knew
six of the games you were looking. Are we playing
green Bay in late December? I'm not getting green Bay

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out a night game knowing you're going to be freezing
your resets off, right? Yeah? Are we on Thanksgiving? Those
who say, oh, we got three Monday nights, cool, It's
gonna be a fun year. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:14:52):
I gotta tell you, I'm not getting tight pants about
the week one opener at home against the Jags, because
that's not rocking me up.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Man. That's that's that's that's not getting me going it is.
The only reason now is because I can't wait to
see all the press conferences this year, for for for
Liam Liam Cohen, the head coach. I can't wait to
see his press conference.

Speaker 6 (01:15:17):
They got, they got, they got a building over there,
don't they, Not only him, but also the GM. Now
they're hoping that the cheese factor kicks in as much
as Nick Sirianni's did and they go on and win
Super Bowls, right, true, But I think the roster is
a little different.

Speaker 4 (01:15:30):
So yeah, you'll you'll tune in just for those to see.
Oh man, guess what, uh Liam Cohn is going to
say something really dumb. I mean you or do some cheese.
He did anything dumb. He just got into the Duvall
enthusiasm and we're going to get their ass kicks by
the Texans. Look, bad organizations continue to be bad organizations
for a reason. It's not coach. It doesn't start at

(01:15:50):
the bottom, it starts at the top. Uh huh yeah yeah,
so yeah, the bond villain hopefully, well we'll see with
a new GM and a new coach doesn't go in
a differ you know what I'm talking about. With the
GM's little soliloquy he went on at the beginning of
the Travis Henry press conference right regularly where it was
just like, did you like rehearse this in the mirror
or something, or like did somebody look it over and

(01:16:11):
be like, man, that's an impassioned speech. That's really good. Yeah,
go with that, Travis Henry. No, the Travis Henry.

Speaker 6 (01:16:18):
Though, Oh I say, Travis Hendry, I'm sorry, Travis Travis
hen right, Oh yeah I saw it. Yeah, yeah, soliloquy.
You mean it was like two and a half minutes.
He is everything that's right with football. It's like, how
about you just do the GM thing of Hey, everybody,
thanks for coming. We're here to announce the obviously draft
pick of Travis Hunter. Really excited about Travis, you know,

(01:16:39):
really looking forward to what he can do in a
JAG's UNI.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
Any questions. That's that's how you hear him turn it
out right, Yeah, but we'll see. But he's he's exactly right,
Travis Hunters everything you want football play, Yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (01:16:51):
Can sure as I'll tell you that. Not everybody's Jeff Luno.
It always still cracks me up to this day when
they did the press conference with Verlander. We're here to
officially announced the acquisition of Justin Verlander, who I think
it already pitched and in Astro's UNI. So it's like,
I don't really understand why we have to do this,
but you you do, you man, Yeah you go. Oh,
you know, everybody wants to put on the coat and

(01:17:12):
the tie and have the jersey put on them and
all of that. Do the grip and grin photo with
the GM the.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
Owner, take a babies, Yeah, there you go, and then
go get us a world chairs and he's beating them
and us to celebrate.

Speaker 6 (01:17:25):
He paid off on that, Yeah, that more than once.
But Tank Dell, it looks like he's not. I mean,
I've said it numerous times. We've talked about it. This
isn't you know, breaking any news here. He's not playing
in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
I don't think any I don't know anybody that would
have expected it. And even if it was a miracle
comeback and he was ready in December, you don't play him.
You just don't that. That's not just your blown out knee.
It's not a torn ligament in the ankle. It's not
a shoulder separation or you know, pulled biceps muscle where
it tears away from the bow. You know that's not

(01:17:57):
this was it was gruesome, and it was put it
this way. If you get him at one hundred percent
the following year in the office, like like at this
time next year that he's going one hundred percent, be
grateful and then get him back because and that kid's
been through some adversity now two injuries, playing good football
in both. Was having a hell of a game in
that game and has to overcome that there's not gonna

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be a whole lot that you can run by him.
That is not that he hasn't hit his football rock
bottom because of these injuries, and God blessed him on
his comeback, but we shouldn't even encourage that. There's no
way you should be counting on him. Hints why they
drafted somebody early, Hints why you go out and get
Christian Kirk. You're protecting your Yeah, a couple guys exactly,
but but the you're you know and Dan. One thing

(01:18:39):
we talked about, you're either going to get lineman or receivers.
And I told JOm Greedy and when they draft re Set,
I had no problem with it because you they're looking
and understand that weapons. You got to be able to
separate and win and it can't just be Nico Collins.
So they've approached it, and they approach it with the
very thought that that that you're not going to get
tanked del back till the twenty twenty six season, sadly enough,
but you know what it'll make for one hell of

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a come back.

Speaker 6 (01:19:00):
Well, they went into this offseason too with exactly that
of you go through a season and you had to sign,
you know, three different quarterbacks and one of those guys
had to start for you and it just didn't go
well for you because, well, you had a guy off
a couch that was going to be leading your offense
and you don't want that to happen. So what do
you do the following offseason? You trade, you sign, you draft,

(01:19:20):
you do all those different types of things, so then
the coach doesn't have to head into that situation.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
Again.

Speaker 6 (01:19:25):
That was the charge of this front office and Tamiko
Ryans in the offseason of saying, hey, look, nothing against
John Metchi, nothing against Xavier Hutchinson. I can't play those
guys and expect to win meaningful football, and you can
play him.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
And I think we're still waiting for another level with
MATCHI and I understand that Hall pass what he's been
through as well, but it's probably a moo. It's time
next year. It's time for him to get back doing
his thing like he did at Alabama, and hopefully you will.
But you're always, like I said, it's a GM. Your
number one job is to get your coach players, but
you're always looking for the ne best guy. You just

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have to for the right reasons. And as a player,
you're always working to prevent that from happening, so you
don't get replaced, and then you maximize what you're doing,
and Tank Dell will be strapped with some This is
it's not even just the physical part. Well, for that's
one thing. It's the mental grind of when you hit
those scar tissues and when you hit them and you
got to break through them. That's the that's I guarantee

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you because physically those guys, these guys bounce back quick.
It's amazing. But good doctors, some hard work and positive
I know it sounds cheesy, but that's what's going to
take to get through it. Take it from a guy
who's shreded his knee twice, but this was a far
more gruesome injury than I had. So you have to
go out and protect yourself. It's nothing against Tank Dell
and it's nothing against Mechi. If you're smart, you go

(01:20:43):
out and get five six good ones, right, and then say,
can I win with any of these guys? But you
know who the number one is? And there's that that's
a blatant. Now, these two young guys and any Christian
Kirk who's a veteran now in this offense, Christian Kirk
should have eighty five ninety catches. He really should be nice,
I mean just and he because he's going to get
more free reign than a guy that plays outside and

(01:21:05):
is a big physical monster. You're not letting that guy
beat you. So you got another veteran. It's gonna be
fun to see how they implement this offense this year.
It absolutely will be Nick Cayley's first year on the job.
It will be interesting to see what wrinkles he is
able to throw out there. All right, coming out a
little bit about you know, mentioned the Fred van Vliet deadline.
I almost wonder if they're telling us something without actually

(01:21:27):
telling us it. We will talk about it here. It
is a Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 9 (01:21:34):
Let the celebration start more Sean Salisbury a Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (01:21:42):
Good morning, Brandon, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
How about the astros?

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
How about him? Did you not call it yesterday? Did
you not call it? I told you were putting positive
vibes out there pitching with Farmber and your game. That's it?
You did? Dog gone righty? Did he called it? Said? Hey,
they're gonna win, and then I'm gonna come in studio
and make make me a coffee. That's what that was
his call yesterday, memory by you all the way through

(01:22:10):
the dog on right, Brandon, good call, baby.

Speaker 11 (01:22:12):
Because.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Mom's my mom's I'm gonna wats.

Speaker 9 (01:22:20):
I'm gonna way to that smart.

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
Yeah, well we'll plant it, no problem. We got all summer.
We got the coffee. I'll bring the donuts. It would
be a good time. Do you like ham sandwiches Brandon? Brandon, Yes, okay?
Do you? What do you tell me what you like
on your hamsounch? Dan wants to know because he's gonna
make you want too when he brings your coffee.

Speaker 11 (01:22:42):
Ham.

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
Do you like ham and cheese, mayonnaise, mustard? What do
you put on a ham soounch?

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Cheese?

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Just ham? Plain? No, no, no, no no condiments, just playing.
You like a hot or cold?

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
I like it?

Speaker 9 (01:22:55):
I like it hot?

Speaker 4 (01:22:56):
Okay, I can do that. Some like it hot DM.
So we got you all right, Just making sure I
make toasted sandwiches all the time. They're delicious. Bring it here,
micro wave it up. Yeah, there you go, there you go.
You sure.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Astros off today and we're off.

Speaker 9 (01:23:14):
And we're back at it tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (01:23:17):
Yes, they are back home. They played well at home
this year, Brandon, it's a little bit different. It's the
opposite of a couple of years ago. Love to see it, dude.
He was awesome yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:23:27):
He was.

Speaker 6 (01:23:28):
He was great frommer Brandon. That's that's who we need
to see. That's the guy right there. We need that
guy a lot more.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
How many strikeouts did he had?

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
Seven?

Speaker 6 (01:23:41):
Yeah, he had seven strikeouts yesterday and he only gave
up three hits.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
It's a good day.

Speaker 11 (01:23:46):
He had a good day.

Speaker 6 (01:23:47):
Yes he did, Yes, he did. And it was nice
to see the bats get it going too. So we
know the formula, Brandon. The guys just have to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
It's first pitch of seven.

Speaker 6 (01:24:00):
Tomorrow night, yes, seven ten Friday night, fireworks too, So
a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Of fun and I'll be at the game.

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
Okay, cool, nice, Not tomorrow but Saturday.

Speaker 6 (01:24:12):
Okay, all right, there you go. Yeah, you get the
six ten on Saturday. So that's that's good. That's good.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
You'll have a lot of fun.

Speaker 6 (01:24:21):
Well, it's it's usually six o'clock on on Saturday, so
it's it's pretty much the same time as always.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
There you go the.

Speaker 7 (01:24:34):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:24:35):
All right, all right, man, we'll hear from your buddy. Well,
we'll talk to you soon. Okay, all right, all right,
see Brandon, So gonna go the game on Saturday. I mean,
I don't think they have toasted ham and cheese sandwiches
there at uh at dyke in Park. I mean maybe
it's something you know, you could could get with the
powers that be next year, you know, of anybody there

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inside the building, the you know, the oligarchy that is
the the ownership group of you know, the is that
even does that even fit? Like I hear people throw
out that word all the time, and I'm like, what
does that even mean? Like I don't get it, Like
they're just really rich people, So I don't you just
call him really rich people?

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
Well that yeah, I'm assuming you're talking about oligarchy. Nice
way to weave that in. Yeah, right, Uh just hear
that all the time, and I'm like, what does it.
There's one guy who's there's one guy who's been mentioned
to it since nineteen sixty he's been trying to stop
the oligarchy. He's got the sign in front of him.
It's the same thing, and he hasn't changed the sign
in fifty years either. The guy just to go, I mean,

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he knows how to pronounce it. He obviously knows what
it means, and he's he's tired of the few of
the men dominating everything. Right, that's he's tired of the
oligarch he's trying to prevent it. The problem with Bernardo
Sanders is he hasn't been able to prevent it for
a long time, so he might want to use a
different theme when he goes after presidency. That he's been

(01:25:59):
fighting all garky since he was born. According to him,
but you play the speech from nineteen sixty eight and
it'll be the same speech now, his number one go
to You got his voice back. I can't do his
voice nor what I want to. But no, no, we're
not doing it. Well, let me ask you, Bernie, how
how wealthy were you before you got into the office

(01:26:20):
and how well I'm not talking about that. This is
about you. I thought you wanted to talk about oligarchies.
Are you part of it? I am, I'm not one
of the up one percent? Well, what about the four
mansions you have? Bertie? Again, we're not talking about this.
Oh that's right. You mean you're in seventy and in
eighty and in ninety and in two thousand, and twenty.

(01:26:42):
You're still fixing the oligarchy word though. Wait'll weave it
in Dan. Yeah, hey, man, you're tired. You're just tired
of all the oligarchs.

Speaker 6 (01:26:51):
I'm sure somebody's probably on Twitter going to throw out
what the true definition is. But I mean, until this,
it's like, oh, you're really rich, you have really big
boats in the meadow Iterranean and all of this.

Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
What he doesn't want is he doesn't want just to
give you an idea what oligarchy. He doesn't want ninety
percent of the money. I'm willing to find it run
like to be an oligarch. Yeah, yeah, what whatuld the
ninety percent of the money being controlled by ten percent
of the peaks. That's basically what he's fighting out. Yeah,
he's got plenty of money of himself, but you got
to fight the oligarchs, man, it's Oligarchy's just the thing.

(01:27:21):
I love the word. Keep believing it in nice job by.
You just got to find a way.

Speaker 6 (01:27:25):
He's just got to find a way, you know, for people,
you know, Yeah, get get really good at something and
then they'll they'll pay you for it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
All right, mister movie quote guy, Oh and analyze this,
Come on, what are you new here? Thank you? You
didn't even let me ask the friggid question. Yeah, I
mean I have a movie. I love movies, but it
comes to movie quotes, you're the frigging man. You just
huddled up. I mean you could recite, you know, back
in You're like, like you said, we'll go back. I'll
say seven brides for seven brothers, and you'll have a
saying and that's like was like nineteen sixty two. Yeah,

(01:27:55):
he tried to run that two point play I did
where you know, going back to thequarterback. The quarterback, well,
not only not even that where it's even much more simple,
where you spread it out a little bit and then
you think that the middle of the field's gonna be
wide open so you can just run back in. No,
I add my inside lineback. The entire time about this,
I cut you down at the five. You're talking about
like the three yard line. We go four wides with

(01:28:17):
empty the backfield, run him in motion. You're a counting
on the linebacker to run with him. Yeah, and he doesn't.
So they're playing zone and now you're running quarterback draw
the most Yeah, as if the biggest, and you got
Josh Allen at quarterback or Lamar Jackson. Hey, we're on
the three. Let's go empty, motion the back out and
go three step, put your foot in the ground and
run quarterback draw. As if that's not the most blatant obvious,

(01:28:40):
I got a great idea run quarterback draw from empty
with the back in the backfield, and at the snap,
have the end go cut somebody like he's in maximum
protection even though it's not max because he got four wides,
and then make your throat. Yeah. Just a novel concept
down there, But I digress. But back to it. I
was actually going to ask you when I say you, yeah, yeah,

(01:29:01):
analyze this, Yeah, you analyze that too, or just this. Yeah.
So the moral of this story is the fact that
you weaved in oligarchy. I don't disappoint try not to
at least, I mean really really, maybe somebody some my
my past.

Speaker 6 (01:29:20):
Like it's funny, like you know, people who like criticize you.
It used to bother me when.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
I've been criticized before a few times, a few times,
but now let it bother you, Dan, Yeah, please trust me.
If you've you'll you'll be a lot better. I mean,
I'm better, happier if you don't let those guys.

Speaker 6 (01:29:33):
One of the things that helps you mentally on Twitter is, uh,
you know you want to call me a moron, but
you don't follow me.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
Guess what I got news for you. I ain't gonna see.
It's even worse. It's the one who calls you a
moron who does follow you. Yeah, that's why I'm saying,
Wait a minute. You hate what I say, and I'm
the moron, but you're dumb enough to wake up in
the morning and look what I said on Twitter.

Speaker 6 (01:29:52):
Hey you're a moron. But hey, what about the Texans
linebacker situation?

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
Yeah? Exactly. My favorite is I'm unfollowing you. Well this sense.
This is the first time I knew you were actually
following me. Man, what can I do to save this?

Speaker 7 (01:30:07):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
You are unfollowing me because I said I think that,
uh Cincinnati beats Pittsburgh this week. Oh, I'm unfollowing you.
How dare you tell me Joe burw is a good
quarter here? A moron? Okay, right, great, you're unfollowing me.
I'll see you in a week because you'll be back.
So yeah, the unfollowed threats My favorite. Hey, I can't
believe you said what do you know nothing, but you

(01:30:29):
can sure tell me what your seventh grade high school
or your seventh grade junior high tape looked like. So
that's my favorite. But that's my friend. You sucked. I
remember that interception. Yeah, I remember it all too well, man,
I remember all the interceptions. I don't remember the touchdowns,
but I got through it. Saw the guy catch it. Yeah,
and I chased him down, but I tackled him in
the end zone for its pick six. Yeah, I know

(01:30:50):
exactly what it looked like. And then I'll say, no problem,
you're exactly right. Man, boy, that game was miserable and yeah,
sure you cost me money. I apologize, by the way,
I know I sucked. I don't apologize. That's your fault,
it's their fault. Who then my favorite is and I
apologize with a smiley face, right laughing, But then it's
my favorite is.

Speaker 7 (01:31:09):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
Do me a favor, though, man, because I'm trying to
up my game. Could you send me your high school
tape so I can evaluate all those stuffs you took.
And i'd ever hear back from when I asked that,
and it's all I do it. It's not mean because
they're right. They can have their opinion. You're right, but
you don't need to tell me when I sucked, because
I exactly know when I sucked. But my favorite is, hey,
what do you know? Not much? The truth. I don't

(01:31:32):
know a lot, maybe a little bit about the position,
but I just want to know so we can study
this together. Grab your tape and walk me through your
decisions when you're in tenth grade swiftly, Pennsylvania or third
grade Swiftly. And I never really get a response back
after that, but just check it in. Yeah, I was curious.
I'd be like me, you know, That's why I always
tell me and joking, I said, well, you teaching me

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about football is the equivalent of me going to Elon
Musk and teaching him how to make money.

Speaker 6 (01:32:02):
It's like, you know, back when the college coaches used
to have call in shows, because now it's all social media,
you know, just very very controlled questions. And I remember
once a guy called in the Mark Rick show, you know,
complained about the way they were doing things, criticized him,
and Rick finished it off of going, you know, but
it sounds like you've coached a lot of football games,

(01:32:22):
so you know, you seem to know what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
I always do that, so I'll say, hey, man, you
know what, I defer to your expertise. I have zero
ideas right what you do, but please, we all need
to know on this on this thread because it'll help
us get better. But in truth, when somebody would there
are some who call and say, Sean Man this and
I'd say, you're exactly right. I did suck. And they're
pointing out the obvious. And I like them because we
have a lot of those people that can teach me

(01:32:46):
a lot about sports and football and baseball and basketball.
So I usually get them all the love they need,
even when they don't give love back. But that's okay,
that's all right. I look, not everyone's gonna love you.
But the truth is I love when they point out,
like I'll get pointed out a lot of times. The
football game I played in college, my first start sophomore
year at SC, We're on the road in Florida. Go

(01:33:06):
back and look at the numbers, and we had Don
mos Bar, Bruce Matthews, we were loading all Americans. We
were driving down and winning. The clock went out. That
crowd in Florida, Wilbur Marshall had a day. It was
the best defensive performance that I've ever seen with my
own eyes in person, and it was me taking the
wrath of it. He played the best football game I'd
ever see a defensive player, and maybe just still to

(01:33:27):
this day, it's as good as I've ever seen. And
so you get an old school Florida fantais, say, Sean,
and remember this, I said, Do I remember National television
Keith Jackson, Frank Broyles and my coach Robinson. After my
first start, I'm sitting down against the wall. My parents
were there, and he says, he showed me, so it's
going to get better. So I was like distraught because
but dude, Wilbur Marshall and he went on to a

(01:33:48):
great career. It was and I can raise my hand
and say I was a part of having one of
the greatest performances I ever saw. He had like twenty
two tackles, three three and a half or four and
a half sacks. He looked like a man playing against
a bunch of boys. And we were pretty good. Dude.
We went on to win six or seven in a
row and were topped. I mean were they. He was unbelievable.

(01:34:10):
So I know what that feeling feels like of a
guy taking over and dominating you. Man all too well.
It's I get reminded about that on social media often.
I say, you are one hundred percent correct. Yeah, it's
not good to be on the short end of that one.
Oh but you look back now and you can smirk
at it, saying, man, I appreciate it a part of something.
You watch it and then you realize why. He went
on to have a great career in Chicago and a

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great player, no doubt in Washington, no doubt.

Speaker 6 (01:34:34):
All right, the decision to push things back with Fred,
I think it tells a story.

Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
We'll talk about it here. It is a Shawn Salisbury
Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 4 (01:34:48):
He was I saw him in concert and it was like,
it's pretty magical the way he performed. Man, that was Yeah,
that one cut. That one cut really deep. So it's funny.

Speaker 6 (01:34:56):
I was actually sitting at a bar once and somebody
next to me somehow the conversation got on the Prince
and they said that, Yeah, one of my co workers
when it was their first day, you know, it was, hey,
tell us a little bit something about you. Tell us
a fun fact, and her fun fact was that she
went to middle school with Prince and she goes and
believe it or not, he actually was a really good

(01:35:17):
basketball player from the Chappelle Show bit right, they did
Charlie Charlie Murphy.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
Yeah, he uh and he loved his sports and afterwards
he starved us pancakes. There you go. He uh, big man?
Is that the Rick James Wow classic? He was? Yeah,
that one hurt man, didn't it?

Speaker 7 (01:35:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:35:37):
Shocking. Yeah, we're talking about Prince right, not as much
Rick James. Yeah, but super freak Yeah he was. He
was something else. Great performer, yes, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 6 (01:35:47):
We still get to listen to him from time to
time to to keep his memory alive for sure. Coming
up here less than an hour Astros GM, Dana Brown
gonna join us up. But just real quick here on
the Rockets, just because this came down yesterday. I mean,
you know, as we get deeper into the offseason, obviously
when there's things to talk about, we'll talk about them.
But i mean, you know, aside from that, the season's over,

(01:36:08):
so it's just you just you just move on from it.
And the team was supposed to have a deadline of
tomorrow on Fred van Vliet to pick up his team option.
They've pushed it back a month because they would owe
him Sean about forty five million dollars next season. My
guess is the decision to move it back is, let's

(01:36:29):
extend this thing because you're no longer in the market
where you have to pay Fred van Vliet forty five
million dollars. And I mean, he'll get his money one
way or another. But I just think that the Rockets
look at it and say, we're no longer in the
desperation phase of trying to build this thing up because
where they were, you had to you had to overpay
for him, You had to overpay for Dylan Brooks. You're

(01:36:50):
now in a position as a team where you've built
up your roster. You feel good about your roster. You
feel even better if number five is still here. But
you also don't feel even better pay million dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
Yeah, so what do you think the delay is? What
to see if you can work out a deal, but
long term extension, a long term extension, but somehow, some
way you want to extend it so it hurts less.
I mean, what where you gonna He's still going to
get paid if you keep him. Yeah, because like unlike football,
that's how he's theirs, right. But he's not getting forty
five million dollars from my kids. No oh No, I

(01:37:25):
love having him here. I think he's a really good settler,
meaning he can keep you, settle in, and come up
with some big games. I do. I like having I
think he's got a winning attitude and culture about him.
And you saw in this series that he can go
out there and take over a game too. You don't
want him to have to be that guy regularly. Does
that make sense? Absolutely? But I don't see forty five

(01:37:47):
million either. The question is how do you do it
to where forty five minut I mean, how do you
go about this? And the extension to say he gets it?
This year we're extending and he's going to take a
major pay cutter. Is he going to tell you? Mean,
what do you going to do? It's not like I
mean you ultimate him him. What do you what are
you gonna do?

Speaker 7 (01:38:05):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:38:05):
I think you ultimatum. I mean there's a mutual interest
for both your side and also for him to come back.
He said as much the other night that he wants
to stay here. He wants to be here.

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
At what price? At what price does he draw the
line and say, I can't go lower than this? Thirty five?
I mean that's that even might be high, that's still
a lot of money. Yeah, I mean that's reserve for
usually reserve for your.

Speaker 6 (01:38:28):
That guy, well not only that guy, but also that
guy that you know, A down night for them will
be twenty points.

Speaker 4 (01:38:35):
Yeah, I don't know, man, that's like I said, I
love having him, but that's an awful expensive price tag
between thirty five and forty five, men's an awful expensive
price tag unless you're it seems you know, we have
to go through the contracts. It seems like those are
reserved for well, the bruns and the tatums, the Nikola
Jokic's of the like I said, this is a really

(01:38:56):
good player, and I think he's a really good culture
guy do and he knows how to win. He's proven it.
But that's uh, why else would you extend this if
it wasn't and talks to how we're going to structure
this to get him to still be here where he
can be a guy because he's still really good in
our building face.

Speaker 6 (01:39:14):
Well, you extend him because I mean for everything you
just said, you know what he means to this team, doubt,
but you also you like him, you love him.

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
You don't love him for forty five million dollars, but
he's still in, you know, in a phase of his
career where you know that you don't want to say
twenty two million. I mean you're not you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, you don't get my point, right, guy, Right,
that's exactly right. If you're going to do that, you
just let him, you just you just say it's better
for you to move on. But yeah, it's it's going

(01:39:41):
to be interesting. But the DELA has to be in
my opinion, how are we going to work to keep him?
But make it fiduciary, fudutiary responsible.

Speaker 7 (01:39:50):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
Ah, there's those words again. I mean, you know, look
at you. I mean I bring in m's master's program,
I bring I bring dilemnized you in fiduciary as well.
Why wouldn't we? Isn't that? Isn't this? Isn't this what
this is all about? Sure? Little for sure finances and
some coin. You know, it's good, it's good to throw
out the words every one, So every now and then

(01:40:11):
you got to keep keep people honest and especially to
you got to do it in a genuine way, Like
even if you mispronounce or you can tell that there
was a hint of hesitation, then people will just roll
with it. What did you just like look that up
in a thasaurus somewhere or something. Yeah, but I didn't. Yeah,
it's a I use the term regularly with when I
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Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
Why You're back.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (01:42:38):
Get back at it, biscuit.

Speaker 11 (01:42:41):
Good morning, Hey, top of it morning, my brothers man.
Good good dialogue going.

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
On this morning, Dan and Sean.

Speaker 11 (01:42:48):
A Hey, Dan, he's got you bring up the Holy
guard man to one. I'll tell you one that this
irks me more than the one percent man is the
saddest scenes in the Pharisee, Dan going Biblical.

Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
I like you, Yeah, absolutely, I.

Speaker 11 (01:43:06):
Can get with a man that's you know, if he's
a businessman, he's detailing. He all about money, making money.
But these people who say they doing things in the
name of Jesus and doing everything contrary them, the ones
that I have probably that that's yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:28):
Yeah. The hypotrits, we're we're gonna leave names out, but
the names not be we we we we know the
names right exactly. By the way, I like to I
want one of their three private planes too, but they're free. Hey,
we have no tax on them, but they're free. But hey,
appreciate you man. Thanks, Yeah, a.

Speaker 11 (01:43:48):
Thousand dollars some angels to help you out.

Speaker 7 (01:43:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
By by, by the way, on that free flight, could
you be a good one and send the blessing to
drive me and fly me and my friends to Pebble
Beach so we can all go play on that thing too,
because you know what, we want to do, some spiritual golfing.
That's the way the Good Lord would want to be.
Damn right. I want to see that cypress tree out there.
You damn right, I'm there. Let's go that that might
be and would you say, oligark, that might be that

(01:44:13):
that that that picture shows up of that of the group. Okay,
you and I both know that. That's right.

Speaker 11 (01:44:19):
Yeahs and plants pad of all over the place. John
Ain't nobody had a better roster than Prince.

Speaker 4 (01:44:30):
Dude.

Speaker 7 (01:44:30):
Come on, now, Celia, roster.

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
What's nine and a half weeks? Agol Kim Basinger really?
Oh he had Kim bay Singer. You damn right, I
know that in the list. Don't stop there. Okay, some
of the names you'll know, and some of the names
you won't start. Listen the Dicaprios and and Bradley Cooper's
or whoever the tom I got news for you. They're
sitting in the cheap seats. When it comes to Prince,

(01:44:58):
I could PROMI as shoot that interesting. Don't let don't
let the diminutive size and the fact that he's you know,
all over the state. I got news for you that man.
When he walked into a room, everything stopped. It was E. F.
Hutton and his roster. Matter of fact, he's cutting tens. Okay, now,
can't make this roster. That's yeah, Oh, Biscuit ain't lying
about that now. And he's just naming the names that

(01:45:20):
you do know. Yeah, he he You know what, he
had a lot of guys. He had a lot of
them on injured reserve. Okay, you talk about that, his
barn was full of whatever he wanted. Good he could
still pull him and he's in a grave. That's that's
how good Prince was My masket? Am I right? Biscuit?
It's no doubt, no doubt, you brought a.

Speaker 11 (01:45:44):
Wilblm Marshall sounded did you play it? Because it made
me think, so did you play against.

Speaker 4 (01:45:49):
Uh, Hugh, Yeah, I did, But but he was before me.
But he was he was like he was like, uh,
probably late seventy. He was more, you know, a little
like just before Marino, got a little bit of Marino.
So he was in the league. He was in the league,
but he'd already been in what four or five? Well
he had to be what biscuit seventy eight something like
that when he came out, So yeah, he was in

(01:46:11):
the league. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yep.

Speaker 11 (01:46:14):
But Hugh green Man went back in the date minut dude,
was he coming like third or something?

Speaker 4 (01:46:20):
Yeah? He he was in the day. Yeah. He the
two the two best the guys you think, oh my gosh,
who who You're like Hugh Green because the modern part
and Leroy Selmyn was that guy too at Oklahoma, but
he went on to a phenomenal NFL career too. But
Hugh Green was a yeah. On Saturdays, you were when
you do the highlights, everybody was talking about all the

(01:46:40):
great players, and then you never went through a highlight
on the National Guy college games without Hugh Green's name
being mentioned. Talking about a disruptor in college guy was unbelievable.
Talking about him quite regularly. Biscuit knows Hugh Green was
that guy when he came out of school. Yeah. It
was nasty, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:46:57):
And and with the rocket is uh name. I think
the van Fleet deal forty million, that's way too much.
What what do you think the Rockers are willing to
paint is? Do you think it's the numbers right at thirty?
Maybe for three years or two years or well what
you think is going to be the sweet spot? Now
I'll hang up with this.

Speaker 6 (01:47:17):
They appreciate it. I mean it's definitely gonna trend more
towards thirty. I mean again, you know when you did it,
it was a we need to add adults to this team,
we need to add veterans, and you know, we also
know that if we're going to add those guys that
are worthwhile, well then the overpays got to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:47:31):
What if I said between ninety and ninety five for
three years, yeah, that that should get it done. I
would think so, because I don't think you're getting that
anywhere else. No, And that's that's still hefty. And he's
at the stage of his career with that, I think
it's fair. But you know, two or three years stretch
it out that the thirty thirty one million a year,
that's stout fair. Yeah, he's say thirty two million in

(01:47:51):
the final year if he's still playing for it. Treat
the guy right, you show you're showing me care and
yeah you get it done. Absolutely fair. Yeah, for sure,
he's not gonna he's not going to miss a me. No,
you'll be fine. Pay rent mortgage, know, yeh be all right,
it'll be good. He'll be good.

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Speaker 6 (01:49:14):
Rockets pushing back their deadline to extend or just decide
to give the team option to Fred van Vliet. That
would be actually more operative one the team option to
June twenty ninth and Texans resigned defensive tackle fully fought
a Cassi to a deal. Sean, you went through ot
as you went through mini camp, you went through training camp.

(01:49:35):
I mean, training camp is not what it used to be.
I mean, you know, I hear the stories from you
from from our good buddy Greg Cook, Indie, you know
when he was here, you know, just tell us stories
like Indy. Indy was actually the guy that had told
us and Indy hopefully I'm not letting too much out
of the bag here, but had told us a story
about how hard training camps were, that huge gatorade bottles

(01:49:59):
would be needed in the dorms because you'd be so
tired that you couldn't even get out of your bunk.
That you're like, okay, well, yes, so I'll go ahead
and use the gatorade bottle. So you don't have those
days anymore. You don't have the two days you don't
have you know, the you're you're at it for two
padded practices and then you're right back at the following day.

Speaker 4 (01:50:20):
It just it's it's it's changed quite a bit. Well
we practiced, we could practice three days in a row,
four days in a row, and two days in full gear. Now,
as a quarterback, I'm not going to sit here and
say I went through it and need it or anybody else.
Now you drop back. You're exhausted, but in a different way.
Usually it's the mental exhaustion that kicks in because you're
putting in. You know, you will wake up the first

(01:50:40):
day of tray, especially when you're young, if you're a veteran,
had been the system, it's a little different, right, But
you show up a training camp and you're putting in,
you know, first day, eight runs, seven passes, five formations,
four motions, a apartridge in a pair tree and that's
the morning. And then after your exhaustion, you go get
a quick nap, have lunch, you're back at a meeting,
and then you go back on the field. And now
it's cumulative. Okay, what we did in the morning, now

(01:51:02):
we're putting in the afternoon stuff and then we're going seven.
I said, oh, now it's two minute drill and it's
so it's mental exhaustion. But yeah, those guys and then
you run and stay in shape and lose weight. But
you can't practice two days in a row in pads now,
let alone to practices in a row. So it's not
like tougher. The rules are just different the rules. It's
not the players that are softer. The rules have allowed

(01:51:22):
them to be softer. When I say softer, meaning they
don't practice as much training camps, what two and a half,
three weeks maybe before you break camp. Heck, you get
into the point now where if some are having it
at home, they're just letting their guys stay home. We
had to go check into dorms or a hotel, stayed
out the whole time, six weeks, five weeks, depending on
what it was. So and that's okay. I used to
love going to training camp like with the fellows, and

(01:51:43):
it was awesome, and I like the chess chess match
and went into the preparation. Yeah, and then now take
a defensive end or defensive lineman, an offensive lineman, and
they're they're they're thump and you're not hitting the quarterback.
But you know the cardio stuff and the mental exhaustion.
But those guys are you're a corner, you're running all day,
you're middle linebacker, and that was a time, dude, in
practice you go live, you're taking on fullbacks in ISO

(01:52:06):
and all these concussions we talked about during games, What
about the time that constantly these guys in practice are
helmet the helmet, meeting each other in the hole and
seeing stars ten times of practice. It was different. It's different.
They're working less, meaning less time and making more. And
that's the way it's set up. I mean it's I

(01:52:28):
don't have a problem with it. I actually think they
miss out on some of the stuff we had we
got to do, not the two days in pads. I
get you got to preserve the players, but the simple
fact of being around longer in the dorm stuff, I
think you built relationships better. I actually miss I loved
to go into training camp because all the all those
challenges was fun. But yeah, day four, every guy I've

(01:52:48):
ever met wants to quit, retire. Heuring Day four of
two days, it's like, you know what, I'm gonna put
my degree to work. I'm done. And that's what you'll
say that when you go to the next morning, when
they could for the morning practice, you I could get
in a shower, you big beat and you go and say,
I mean your arm's about to fall off, and let
alone the head and the arms of all these linemen
that are beating on each other. I just have my arm.

(01:53:08):
It's about And you're like, you know that's okay. After
this practice, I'm quitting. Yeah, I'm gonna go. So you
get the end hit forces, you get a new energy.
You got Oh, I'm retired, I'm done, and then you'll
go practice. You'll take your ass back to the door,
sleep or say go at the grind again. That's the
mental and emotional grind is far more worse than anything.
But they don't do it. It's different. I think they
miss out on and I think that's why they're sloppy football.

(01:53:29):
Our training camps were longer and you get to work
on it. And once again, I don't care about the
preseason games. I don't it's nice to win them. Denny
Green always said, listen, if we're going to play them,
whether it's the second or third ringers, we're playing them
to win them. You're just not playing at the expense
of losing Randy Moss to an ankle, are right, but yeah,
play them to win them. But our practices is where
you knew you were going to make a team because

(01:53:50):
they were physical and they were nasty, and you got
after it, and they were highly competitive and Blitz pick
up all those things and fist fights are flying on
a daily basis. But that's where you make the team.
If you don't get a chance to show your stuff
in the preseason, if you're the third guy and you
can't get through it, you can't get out of huddle
and line up. You may have all the take talent
in the world, but practice three, you're running a post

(01:54:11):
when we call a corner because you didn't stay in
your playbook the night before. And they say, well, games
matter more, not in the preseason getting ten snaps. It's
all the stuff leading up that gives you those ten STAPs.
If you don't bypass your ass, you won't see you
won't get a sniff of it.

Speaker 6 (01:54:24):
Oh it's awesome, I mean it's lessons learned from the past.
I mean, if you want these guys to be able
to play as many years as possible, and you also too,
you want a quality of life when you're done. I mean,
how many guys do you see walk away from the
game early because they're like I just I want to
be able to be in the sixties and not feel
like I'm nineties.

Speaker 4 (01:54:41):
And they can because backup quarterbacks making eight million bucks. Yeah,
kickers making five million a year, they're all valuable. I'm
not said, I'm not diminishing them, but yes, so it
allows you to, if you're smart, make a whole bunch
of money quick and play seven years instead of fifteen.
And that's when that's when you listen. When you know,
when it really becomes work that you like, I've dread

(01:55:01):
the off season training, that's probably the time to walk
away because that Patty started and you start thinking about
and when I open this business, and you could do both,
but you know when your mind starts to say I
wish I was put on a coat and tie and
talking behind the mike as opposed to get my ass
ready to play, that most players know, and then you're

(01:55:22):
used to have to hang on to play a couple
extra years because you get some extra money at the
end of a career. Right, Oh yeah, guys can walk
away now earlier because their priority shift and they don't
want to when they're seventy. Wonder how in the world
they're going to get their third knee replacement. Well you
can really only have two. But you get what I'm
saying though.

Speaker 6 (01:55:39):
And in mini camp was probably even more of like
you're kind of like, we're just kind of getting a
taste of this, but it's not really even.

Speaker 4 (01:55:45):
Yet, you know, Dan, I didn't we didn't have OTAs.
You had off season program where voluntary, which to me
always met mandatory show up and you'll go out and
throw Volunteer coaches wouldn't be out there, but you go
and throwing routes to large it and those guys because
they of their staying in the off season going home
for a little while so year around the facility. As
I said yesterday, but we didn't have ots. We had

(01:56:07):
off season program, which is voluntary. You had too many
You had a rookie minute camp that the perimeter people, quarterbacks,
veterans would show up to, and then we had the
veteran Mini camp, and then you may had one more
but that that was the chance you had. You had
three days and those three or four days are the
week that you had for the mini camp was to
get yourself ready. So they had it in their eye.

(01:56:28):
I like the way this guy spins it, or this
guy runs routes. So when you got back in pads
actually came on, then they were looking at you a
little different than the stretching line because you, oh, kid,
we can get him out of the hudle a as
a rookie quarterback or running back who has been in
our playbook. Just we're putting in just a little bit
of installation and they can handle it mentally. That's really

(01:56:49):
what you're looking for. And then up close to see
a guy running routes and compared to large it, you know,
and learning from him. So yeah, that's where you didn't
have all these OTAs to make a long impression. You
had to make a quick impression. So when you got
to training camp, they were looking at you different in
pads and giving you that run in pads you want.
Imagine six quarterbacks in camp, can't get them all work,

(01:57:10):
so you better catch their eyes somehow some way. Now,
off season program OTA's lasts longer but the voluntary, then
you get the mandatory and then you go to training
camp and in truth, you know, they know who ninety
two percent of their roster is going to be before
training camp starts.

Speaker 6 (01:57:27):
When it comes to mini camp, how would it suit
you to go to Maui for mini camp? That's what
the Rams are doing. I freaking love it. Why wouldn't you.

Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
It's a little team building, it's a little fun after
you get off the field go you know what it is.
It's the Pro Bowl early or late should we say,
but before you go in season, it's one of those
let's go there, let's train, you get some sand training.
But then afterwards we get to go out on the
beach and you get to go deep sea fishing and
you get to play golf. Why wouldn't you do that?
What a cool thing to fly everybody in and have
them go there. It's a camaraderie thing, Sean mcvagh. They

(01:57:59):
get that team building. You're not going there. They'll put
it this way. It ain't going to be an over
business trip. You may have mini camp there, but there's
also there there is a method the McVeigh and the
Rams madness to make sure their players know they care
about them. Who doesn't want to train in Hawaii.

Speaker 6 (01:58:15):
So if you're the Texans, I mean, you know, close
to Mexico, you could either go the Gulf side of
the Yucatan or you could go over to Cago and say, hey,
let's let's do mini camps.

Speaker 4 (01:58:26):
Why why wouldn't you, Why wouldn't you so reward players.
Imagine families say well, let's go over there too, and
maybe you stay in extra week because now as they
creep into June, they're going to get that June to
early July, that five to six week for coaches as well.
Coach will take a lot of June off and this
is let's get them ready, have another mini camp and
then take that off and go. It's just it's a

(01:58:47):
hey man, these guys care about us, and we're doing
it in Hawaii. And don't kid yourself, Sean McVay didn't
mind being in Hawaii too at that time of year.
It's kind of a it's kind of the double whammie, right.
I told you the story I think I told on
I can't when you go on them, I can't remember.
I told you the story about David Craig the first
time I saw him was on the Seattle my first
minute camp. I ever tell that story on So I
get drafted, I mean, with the drafts over, I go

(01:59:09):
to mini camp and I'm standing there talking. I thought,
I told you this and maybe I didn't. To a
rookie wide receiver on the field, I said, I'm beating
that guy out, David Craig, who got six foot tall.
I think a jersey hanging down below his elbows, pants
don't fit right, and I'm thinking, and during warm up,
I'm you know, throwing a little harder to impress, thinking,

(01:59:30):
I got this first mini camp when you walk off,
you go have dinner the night before, and the next
day you're on the field, right, yeah, and so you're
trying to make an impression on all these veterans six
five too that I'm gonna rip it. Well, he's still
so we're going through it. I'm thinking, I'm beating him out.
There's no way this is the David Craig that's strowing
for all these yards and he in a largent, you know, legendary.
And I told him I'd looked at Earl winfil and

(01:59:50):
I said, I'm beating that guy out. And Earl said
let's go because he was a rookie rookie wide receiver.
And by the time we got to about an hour
and thirty minutes into practice, we started seven seven and
team and I'm watching David Craig. The ball doesn't hit
the ground. He's dropping back, throwing post and post corners.
I'm like, there's no way that ball's complete boom And
it was like he was handing it off thirty yards
down the field. Yeah, and by the time we got

(02:00:12):
halfway through team and you get a couple snaps, right.
I went back to Earl Winfield and I said, one day,
but I'm not beating him out, because dude, he was.
It was so he geared up right, he was like,
and the looks are to see. I'm telling you, dude's
six foot and a half six to one, and the
uniform fit like a seventh grader that's trying to wear
a varsity uniform. And we are laughing at and I'm thinking,

(02:00:34):
I'm gonna bury this guy when it comes to flow.
And I learned right then and there. I mean i'd
learned beforehand, but that physical stuff, which is great becaulse
I thought farther hard, sure, but when we got into
a huddle and got out of the huddle boom boom
boo boom boom boom, And I'm like, oh okay. And
he went to Milton College. It turned into a junior
high school. That's when I realized these guys are And

(02:00:57):
I played at SC with all these great all Americas,
great players, but even the NFL is just it. And
you realize, man, those this quarterback, Yeah, he's went and
he was smart as hell, man, that dude. And and
so I thought, okay, now I'm in. Now, Now I
know what it's gonna take, because now you're to the
point where the mental is going to outlast the physical.
He usually does, but those many can. I miss him.

(02:01:19):
I miss as much as anything in my career. I
miss the sitting around and the laughter with the fellas.
And I promise you, as i'm saying, we all hear this.
The cheese part of it. Oh yeah, I'd rather be
back for the stories. And I'm telling you now, dude,
I'd change turn in all the money from your NFL
career to give me ten more years of that of

(02:01:40):
just the stories and and what I do over again
with the fellaw not much, because I asked a lot
of questions around the guys I did. I wanted to learn,
but I had fun with him. I just you go
back and say, what would you do now? If you
go back and still to this day, more than that
check getting in when you're at your high point and
making money, the stupidity, I miss more than anything, and

(02:02:01):
you'll never you can never get that setting again once
you're done, unless you're even as a coach. You don't
because you're not down in locker room with selfish. Right,
you're a little older and more mature. But man, I
missed that more name when when athletes tell you that
they're not joking, most of us would have done it
for free. We just wouldn't let anybody know because we
don't want to do it for free. But you would.
It was it was am I love. I missed that competitive.

(02:02:24):
I miss that fight competitive where you had to you
had nothing, You were an undrafted free agent and you
had to fight your ass off to make that team.
I'll never forget my rookie year and what it was like.
I hope the guys that go enjoy the journey because
when it's over and it gets going to go fast,
and if you're fortunate. I was fortunate to play ten
years m M. Most of them will be out of
league in five or less. So I hope they enjoy

(02:02:44):
the hell out of it because it is something that
you look back and say, what would I have done different?
Don't ask what if? Just make sure you know what
you did.

Speaker 6 (02:02:51):
Locker room and the road trips. That's those are the
memories you likely carrying. Yeah, no, you can't replace it either.
I mean you you just hit it right on the head.
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Speaker 4 (02:04:37):
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Speaker 6 (02:04:39):
beIN reports that President Trump is going to have a
Commission on College Sports, and on three's Peter Nikos Nakos
however you say his name, has confirmed that another co
chair is expected to be a well known college booster
to go along with the primary co chair Saban.

Speaker 4 (02:05:01):
So let's can we speculate on the name. Have they
speculated on the second name? Not? Not yet? It's a
famous college coach or a former Uh it's a well
known college athletics booster. Oh booster. Well, let's think about
boosters that are popular. Phil Knight big time?

Speaker 6 (02:05:26):
Uh, the man who is his uh ambassador to Italy.

Speaker 4 (02:05:30):
Now tell for Tita, I'll come back to d C. Okay,
what about Oklahoma State? He's no longer with us, I know,
but that I'm talking about the Oklahoma State. But his money,
that that presence from that university. Yeah, yeah, he passed away.
What has it been two years? Three years? Now? It's yeah,
why am I losing? Boone Pickens? Exactly?

Speaker 7 (02:05:50):
He?

Speaker 4 (02:05:50):
Uh the money for I mean, that's big booster money.
So who takes on that role a right point. He's
probably been passed away longer than that. But you know
we called we played that game of how long ago?
And you say three years and it was like this, right, God,
what that long? But yes, I'm trying to think around
about night obviously jumps to the forefront tilman Fertita here,

(02:06:11):
And there's probably names that we're not mentioning that we
know that are big. And I'm trying to think across
the country names and when you say their name, like, oh,
and by the way, who is it? So yeah, interesting,
But if Saban's on it, you know where we're headed.
We're going to try to do everything we can to
regulate this in a different way and stay in between
the lines. And I rarely like getting government involved in

(02:06:35):
anything outside of government, let alone in government. I don't
really want them meddling in this. You want to exactly,
I do not like it. But when you say Saban
in college football, I'm willing to listen because I know
he has the betterment of the place, especially since he's
not even coaching now anymore. But that's the reason he left,

(02:06:56):
the betterment of of getting kids paid. But make sure
that we're not so out of hand that you're forcing
coaches to leave and players to do it. So I
think it's good. And whoever that big contributor is is,
you know, as far as a big alumni and a
big you know, one of those guys who's on the
board and you know, gives money and is a powerful
position if we can get it changed for the better

(02:07:19):
where both sides win, because right now and the one
that's not winning, the fan doesn't win. The fan doesn't win,
you don't have the you know, who's my team? What
are we doing? And now? And it even with all
these rule changes and nil and transfer portal, I almost
feel like you can cheat the system easier. Now does
that make sense that that, oh it's not hand to

(02:07:41):
hand cash? But really it isn't. Isn't it really hand
to hand cash?

Speaker 6 (02:07:45):
You get a guy that was supposed to go play
at LSU and then all this time.

Speaker 4 (02:07:48):
Million to go to Michigan. That's hand to hand cash.
But yeah, you create stuff for that right as an
alumni and big money and and on some guys like
Larry Ellison at Oracle with his wife, I think is
a Michigan alone, right? Is it? What's twelve million? I mean?
And we have a lum at every school that can
afford to say, Oh, I can fut that myself. I'll
make that an interest by the time the year's over. Right.

(02:08:09):
So I don't know, but I'm always I don't care
who's the president or when government's involved in it. I think, man,
that's probably outside your lane. But we're gonna need some
regulation when it comes to it, and if that will
speed up the process as long as the decision makers
get it. Whoever, those guys Aren'tking Nick Saban and whoever
this big booster is.

Speaker 6 (02:08:28):
Well, I mean this all started probably about what fifteen
years ago, where it's pay the players, pay the players.

Speaker 4 (02:08:32):
All right, well, how does that look? I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:08:35):
It's like, okay, so you're just wanting to spend people's money,
but you don't want to have a plan to doing it.
Let me tell you what really rich people don't like
to do. They don't like to just give away their money.
Hence why they're really rich. Uh, And they will question everything.
They got the most money and they will be the
tightest with it, and they have question and hents. Like
you said, they're pretty good decision makers. Hence how they

(02:08:57):
got to this point.

Speaker 4 (02:08:58):
But you got to push the write buttons in this
and hopefully the one thing about this is the hopefully
lightning speed in which we can change it. But don't
just change it so it's fallen downhill and everything goes
to hell that way, But make sure it's a methodical
change that hits properly so we're not back to the
archaic ways of these kids not getting anything. But then

(02:09:18):
we can't leap frog and get to the point where
they're they're dictating everything that goes on. And the n
C two A is no longer a factor in preventing
this so far because they haven't stepped up. The n
C DOUAA is just not even a factor whatsoever. It's
as bad as governing bodies there is. And I want
you to think about the IOC and others that that's
bad boxing. And you think about that, and we got
to the point where it's the worst, said me, exactly.

(02:09:42):
And it's a tall boy to trust me. And that's
and that's what they, you know, decided, might even be
a growler. You know what.

Speaker 6 (02:09:48):
What they decided at the beginning too, when all of
this you know, was made available, was oh well, for
the longest time. We've been depriving these guys of these
chances and ladies, but we've been depriving the athlete. So
these chances. So let's go ahead and turn the fire
hose on. And then they ripped the nozzle off the
you know, the the faucet right there, so it just
kept flowing. And now all of a sudden you're just

(02:10:10):
kind of looking at it and saying, Okay, now this
has kind of gotten out of hand.

Speaker 4 (02:10:14):
Right now, you've got to go back and fix it.
Who knew that was going to happen? Everybody, right, but
did nothing about it? That's exactly right.

Speaker 6 (02:10:20):
Yeah, So well see, I mean I would have to
think that you're going to have ads, you know, college presidents.
I mean, I would think the people, if you're going
to do this, do it right. Have the people who
know this on a day to day basis be the
ones that are saying, all right, hey, this is what
could make this better, this is how we improve this thing.

Speaker 4 (02:10:37):
And the negotiations are when both sides win. Sure, and
that's what we got. We got to keep everything in mind,
the kid, the parent, the n C two A, the school,
the coaches along all that. You got to find a way,
And there's a lot of smart people in the world.
But it's amazing to me you can't sit around a
conference room table and say, does this really look good?
Is this really what's best for college football or basketball?

(02:10:58):
And the answers no, So how do we make it
best for the kid? But not so out of hand
that the kids running college football when they can't quite
run their own nose yet.

Speaker 6 (02:11:07):
Yeah, Well, Nick Saban said, it is this what we
want college football to be? Well, now he's got a
chance to be able to affect it. All Right, it's
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Speaker 1 (02:13:13):
We're for the Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 4 (02:13:18):
Uh, Dan, you've been in this a long time. When
do you know during a season, like the identity of
your team, when do you know that, Okay, that's who
we are. What point should we start to feel that's
who they are?

Speaker 7 (02:13:32):
I mean, we get a feel for what the team's
identity is, you know, coming out of spring training, and
it's just a matter of when the guys hit their stride,
you really see it come to fruition. And so I
mean we we feel like this team has a really
good identity. It's just you know, we were waiting on
that offense to really turn around. And so this this,

(02:13:54):
this is a really good team.

Speaker 4 (02:13:55):
So when somebody asks if I were to say, right
the second we ended spring train and say, Dana, what's
the identity of the Astros, what would you have told me?

Speaker 7 (02:14:03):
Yeah, I would say, Look, we're going to have a
nice combination of hitting and pitching, along with good defense
and a good bullpen, and so that that's a recipe
for winning a lot of games. And so once we
get on all cylinders, you know, we're going to you know,
we're going to be explosive. So you know, you know,

(02:14:26):
just to be at five hundred right now. Look, we're
grinding through it, you know, grinding through a few injuries
as well, And so I think this team is going
to be really good and they're gonna turn it around.

Speaker 4 (02:14:35):
Yeah. How close are you data in your mind the breakthrough?
How close?

Speaker 11 (02:14:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:14:41):
I think.

Speaker 7 (02:14:41):
You know, we have a few guys that are notorious
for starting off slow. I think I think we're right
on the brink of turning this thing around. I'm hoping
that it's really starts this homestand we've been playing very
well at home this year, and so you know we
can get the breakout offense going. You know, I think
you know that's when we're going to get the multiple
games over five hundred. So you know that's the goal

(02:15:04):
is to get this offense.

Speaker 4 (02:15:05):
Going, asked those GM data Brown for his weekly visit
here on the Seawan Salisbury Show. Dan, I was able
to sit down with Joe before you guys went to
spring training, and what an engaging time it was. And
we were talking about from a rookie manager. And I
remember last year I asked you, is there a big
learning curve for him? You say, no, he's been in
baseball long enough. She should fit right in. Well, bingo
and he and you know, you're going to learn along

(02:15:26):
the way like a like a new player, but he'd
been in baseball, so from year one to year two
and asking him about, oh, yeah, there's a lot of
growth that happens. Have you seen growth from Joe even
though it's early in year two? Have you seen growth
from a rookie year manager to now?

Speaker 7 (02:15:42):
Yeah? I mean I think you know you grow in
that you know, you learn through your decision making process
of you know, certain decisions that you have to make
that you know, whether it's to you know, play this
guy or you know not play this guy, pitch this
guy or not bring this guy in. There's a learning curve,
you know. Uh. You know, Joe's experience, though, will will

(02:16:04):
help him to bypass a lot of the learning curve.

Speaker 11 (02:16:07):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (02:16:07):
And so you know, look, this guy has has been
a good leader down in that clubhouse. He's been here
for a long time. His presence is is well known,
and he's got big respect down there, and so we
look for big things.

Speaker 4 (02:16:22):
Teter Brown joined us for his weekly visit Dana with
Lance mccollors. After his first start and then coming into
somebody had asked me and I said, well, I want
to see how he feels from start one to start two,
coming back after you know, all the injuries and how
he's feeling. So just kind of hanging around, what what
what's the kind of the feel for him on the
recovery process before he gets to make his second start.

Speaker 7 (02:16:44):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (02:16:45):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (02:16:46):
You know, it's all about how you feel after that start,
and uh, you know, faithfully, Lance said, he feels good,
and so that's a good thing. And so you know, uh,
you know, I look forward to good things on his
next start. I was very uh satisfied with his With
his start, you know, he threw three and two third
scoreless innings. Pitch count got up a little bit, uh,

(02:17:08):
you know after especially after he hit that batter, but
stuff looked pretty crisp. Uh, change up. It's really good.
Fastball's coming out real good, uh, and the sliders working.
So you know, look, he's he's working to get back
to the old lancefer Colors. I think he's right there
on the brink. And overall, he looked good, very satisfactory outing,

(02:17:29):
and I expect good things to come out of him
the rest of the way.

Speaker 4 (02:17:32):
Hey, and I'm gonna get back to your team and
an overall baseball question because I want to seek your
expertise on this or just your opinion. Do we need
a salary cap in Major League Baseball?

Speaker 11 (02:17:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:17:43):
Look, I can't get into you know, the thought process
on you know what we need, you know, in terms
of salary caps or anything like that. You know, very
delicate situation. But you know, I would say, you know,
it's working for some other uh sports, but ultimately, you know,
we can't really we can't really get into that, you know,

(02:18:05):
particularly at this junction.

Speaker 4 (02:18:07):
Yeah, there you go, and the rules are set. Got
to deal with them and operate within him. Dana Brown
for his weekly visit here on Sports Talk seven ninety
All right, update on on yourd on and where we
are and how he's feeling.

Speaker 7 (02:18:19):
Yeah, feeling a lot better.

Speaker 4 (02:18:21):
You know.

Speaker 7 (02:18:22):
Look, ultimately, you know your lions had you know this, uh,
you know before you know the you know, the muscle
strain in the right hand. You know, these power hitters, man,
you know, they swing big bats and sometimes you know,
you know, their hands whill will get a little aggravated.
The good thing is that we don't think this is
going to be long. We jumped on it right away

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when he said he didn't feel good, and so you know,
this muscle strain shouldn't you know, shouldn't take long at all.
You know, hopefully we get him back here, you know,
within the next week or so. But you know, I
think look that was probably part of you know, what
he was feeling and getting couldn't get through it, and
this thing happens, and and so that the best thing

(02:19:05):
is to let it heal, give him some time off
and then get the real jord On on the other
side of this injury. And so you know, but he's
doing well. The pain is gone and we just have
to let it, uh, just let it heal and rest.

Speaker 4 (02:19:20):
Hey, Dana, is just just to make sure we're clear.
So when we're not giving out any wrong information, this
in and you kept you're saying the muscle. So this
is a soft tissue, not a structural issue with his hand.

Speaker 7 (02:19:31):
Correct, It's a muscle strain and so that's a good thing.
So there's no ligaments or anything like that. Uh, just
a soft tissue and we're always going to be fine.
It's just gonna be a few days. I mean, you
know for most people you know who are out there.
You know, when you when you strain a muscle, you
got you you really have to let it rest and
once it heals, you're you're back to normal. And so,

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as I mentioned before, this guy swings a big bat.
He's a big power hitter, and these things happen with
with hitters from time to time.

Speaker 4 (02:20:00):
You the partial Jake Myers, we've talked about elite defender
Dana and you know, the last couple two three years,
if he's the center fielder for the most part and
plays great defense, and he's had his struggles at the plate.
So I'm just kind of curious with you guys, because
you guys have held him in high regarden, rightfully, So
I'm just curious about is this closer to the hitter

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that you expected when you evaluate him? And can he
continue this? Can he be a two eighty two eighty
five guy throughout the season applied with that elite defense.

Speaker 7 (02:20:31):
Yeah, I think Jake moore a is a you know,
two fifty to two to seventy guy. I will definitely
take the two eighty he can give us. Yeah, if
he can give us, if he can give us a
two fifty to two to seventy average with a seven
to fifty ops, that would be very welcome. And right
now he's doing very well with the bat. Of course,
he's great defensively, and you know, he's pretty much fulfilling

(02:20:54):
his potential as a hitter right now and he's playing
a little bit above that and that's great, you know,
that's that that increases his h impact on the team.
And so that's very welcoming u for us, of course,
and so we hope he continues this to continue this
hot streak, and he's been playing well for us, and
you know, with that big game that he had, he

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pretty much carried us.

Speaker 4 (02:21:16):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:21:17):
Sometimes you know, when your big boys go down, or
if your big boys aren't hitting, you know, you need
some of the guys, you know, at the bottom of
the lineup to be able to pick you up a
little bit. And Jake, you know, has been able to
do that, and that's very welcoming and like, you know,
getting the defense on top of that, that's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 4 (02:21:33):
Hey, Dan, is there anything different you you evaluate this?
It's been a specialty years for years. Is there anything
different about his approach at the plate or mechanically that
we're seeing different from him than we have in the past.

Speaker 7 (02:21:45):
Yeah. I think what happens when these guys turn the
corner like this, they bear down, they get good pitches
to hit, they take the bad pitches, and they get
in good hitting counts. He likes to hit, you know,
he does damage early, and so I think, you know,
he's getting his pitch and he's been driving it and
doing well. And I think a big part of any
major league success as a hitter, it's it's simple as

(02:22:09):
hit good pictures, take bad pitches and sometimes the stuff
at the major league level is so nasty that, you know,
pictures starting to strike zone, you know, pictures fall out
of the strike zone, and that that's the difficulty of hitting,
and that's why we don't have a ton of great
major league hitters. I mean, it's it's the toughest thing
it's sports to do to hit a round object with

(02:22:31):
a round object square and so, uh, you know, hitting
could be very difficult, and I think that, you know,
if we could simplify it, I think when we can
turn this thing around too as well.

Speaker 4 (02:22:41):
Data with young players, whether it's a rookie or a
guy who's you know, been in the minor leagues and
getting his opportunity and is in the infancy of his career, Well,
what's I don't know if tougher is the right word,
but what's the way you approach it? Is it just
individual like more, play them every day so they can
fight through the stuff, or rest him more, and it's
becomes a platoon, you know what I'm saying, when you're

(02:23:02):
still trying to find themselves. What's the best way to
do it at bats every day or let him sit
and watch time play two rest to play to rest one.
How's that approach or is it just an individual thing
depending on the player.

Speaker 7 (02:23:15):
Yeah, I think when these guys are young sort of
they take camp Smith for example, you know, he's a
young guy. He he hasn't played a ton of games
you know, each year, and so you kind of have
to gradually build him up to that and you know,
you have to monitor that if he gets hot, you
can kind of ride him a little bit, and so
you know, you kind of have to ease your way

(02:23:36):
into this. And you know, I think there's going to
be a period, you know, right around that you know,
one hundred and fifty at BATS or so. I think
you're going to really see some explosiveness come. And I
think he's showing us, you know, glimpse of coming attractions
and that's the beauty of it. But you know, to

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make no mistake, I think camp Smith is going to
be pretty good, you know, just using him as an
example of, you know, right, and I think you're starting
to see it some with the Cinzo you got some
time last year. You're starting to get you know, into
this thing a little bit more. And these young guys,
I think these are going to be two you know,
corner pillars for us down the stretch, you know, and
and in the years to come, you know, you may

(02:24:19):
have the Cinzo and left Camon right, and these are
going to be two big pieces for us down the stretch.
And these guys are learning on the job and they're
going to be good. I mean, they both have power.
They both can hit with power. You know. The defense
is really you know coming. You know, camp Smith has
been really good, right the Sinzo is getting better every day.
And so sometimes these young guys you really have to

(02:24:39):
bring them along gradually. You know, some young players they
come in and they're like gangbusters right away, and the
other players you have to bring along. And I think
both these guys were bringing them along the right way,
and we don't want to overwhelm them. And you're going
to see some success, h for sure. And then they're
starting to show it, Dana.

Speaker 4 (02:24:56):
And I'll leave you with this in two years. I've
asked you this question a couple of times and you
haven't missed on this yet. So i'll ask it with
Descenzo five years from now. What position is he a
regular at in base? Where do you see him with
your talent evaluation? Where is his spot, whether it's on
this to anywhere. I'm just saying, where's he going to
be a regular at in his career? Position wise?

Speaker 7 (02:25:17):
Yeah, I think it's going to be left field or
or first base. You know, it would be my thought
process from an evaluation standpoint. You know, Ut potentially those
two positions, you know, depends on how it plays out.
And you know, once once the bat comes, it's got
a chance to be a pretty big one because he's

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got really good at the velocities in power. So uh
but yeah, those two positions, Uh, it's where he may
end up being a regular. I think he'll have some
games where he can date and do some things like
that as well. But those are the two positions I
would I would project kind of.

Speaker 4 (02:25:53):
Nice having an outside linebacker with that kind of versatility
and can run and hit. Hunt Dana, it's not a
bad gig? Is it not a bad gig?

Speaker 7 (02:26:00):
Do what big do? That isn't in power?

Speaker 4 (02:26:02):
We'll take it any day of the week. Data good stuff, man.
We'll look forward to talking to you next week, and
we really appreciate your time as always.

Speaker 7 (02:26:09):
All right, let's turn it around Astro fans right now
is coming home and we got a good chance to
get on the run. So we're eighteen and eighteen thirty
six then and got one hundred and twenty six to go.

Speaker 4 (02:26:20):
There you go appreciate it, but who's counting? Right there?
You go data. Thanks, Ma, I appreciate it, look forward
to it next week. He'll join us on Wednesday at
nine thirty. We'll be right back. We'll finish it up,
talk about what Dana said and some really good stuff
in there. It is Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:26:35):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show, Salsbury.

Speaker 4 (02:26:40):
That's beutiful third.

Speaker 6 (02:26:43):
So I'm guessing that about middle of next week he
could come back, and it sounds like we're on track
for that to maybe be a case.

Speaker 4 (02:26:49):
He said, it's progressing and as long as it's not bothering,
and we'll see. It's always setbacks always concern me on
soft tissue because at some point you got to tell
you when it's structural, you know, you go either get
it fixed and repaired or the structure part, well, how
do you know? You know constant, you know, MRIs and
the rest of it. But you can like a hamster,

(02:27:10):
it's like tangible right right, The tangible part of a
soft tissue, and so what do you do after a
handful of days. You got to test it, right, So
I'm always concerned, like when a guy comes off a hammy,
like Steph Curry comes off Miss Game two, come off
of hammy, how will the quick burst and the quick
twitch happen? And I'm always concerned, Well, look, it could
be a flare up. So in the soft tissue, that's

(02:27:32):
what you got to guard against is and at some
point you got to lead up to it because you
just don't want to run him back and they say, oh,
it feels good, and all of a sudden, first thing
he takes it's the you know, it starts to linger.
That's my only concern about soft tissue is the lingering
and when it comes to your hand or the wrist area. Dude,
when you're a big power hitter who, like you said,
there's going to be strain and stress on it. So
that's my concern better than structural. But you just got

(02:27:53):
to guard against the lingering. And then truth Dan, at
the end of this, if it's ten days and he's
not ready to come back, that there'll be a reason
for it. Now, I don't know how much it would
be alarm, but the soft tissue. If you think he's healthy,
take a couple extra days as the way I would.
But I'm not a doctor. It just you don't want
it to linger all year. We're in Game one hundred,
one hundred and it's still still a problem. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:28:16):
And you know, with Cam Smith and Zach Dezenzo, I
mean talking about those guys saying they could be corner
pillars for the organization for years to come.

Speaker 4 (02:28:23):
That's what I see.

Speaker 7 (02:28:25):
I do.

Speaker 4 (02:28:25):
Now he mentioned first base, which he's built for that
as well. But if he's versatile enough where you can
still find that first basement and put that guy in
the outfield, that's you just not not just cornerstone. Two
corner outfielders that are that are really really freaking good man.
For sure. I'm saying, big body, power guys that can

(02:28:45):
hit the baseball and cover. I'm anxious to see both
of their as they evolve. But if you're not excited
about that, you know both of them. But we were
talking to Senzo. If the like I said, if the
performance matches the the bill and the physical prowess, you're
in for a corner outfield is pretty nasty man, for sure.

Speaker 6 (02:29:05):
It's good to always have guys that you can count on,
not only this season but down the road, and so
far you've been able to count on both of those.

Speaker 4 (02:29:12):
I can't wait to see what it looks like this
year and moving forward, no doubt about it.

Speaker 6 (02:29:16):
He Sean Salisbury, Triple, Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews Here, The
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