Astros Beat Diamondbacks in Series Opener, Welcoming Brice Matthews, & Texans Training Camp Ramp-up

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salisbury Houston. Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Shawn Salisbury to usc Troup's longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Dan Matthew.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show, now delivered.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
And Matthews hits it high in the air, pretty new
to left center field, racing back Carol and gurry yell
Carol at the wall, leaping seat Atlanta, the first big
league all run for Brice.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Daf uses a.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Three run shot and the Astros go up three to one.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
Here's the one. This one slugged a centerfield and hit well.
Carol going back. He's on the warning track and he
leave said it's upbout the wall. Carry tiny around third base.
He'll score, skipping into second base. Kristen Walker with a
ringing double.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Runners lead off all three bases, oh two lifted shallow
left field, going out short coming in tremail, shorts called
off by Trammel, who makes the catch to retire the side.
Diamondbacks leave him loaded and we're through six innings.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
In Arizona, Matthew's close to the plate.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
First pitch from Gallon and he slugs this one left
field and deep.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
There goes.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
A two run homer by Matthews, and it's six to three.
That was deep, about ten rows deep into the seats
in Matthews with home runs one and two of his major.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
League career outfield super deep. McCormick shades the other way
in center first pitch and Naylor hits it a mile
high in the right coming in is Smith waiting for
it to come down, makes the catch, and that is
the ballgame. The Houston Astros take Game one in Arizona,

(02:01):
winning tonight six to three. Astros now have a five
game lead over the Mariners for first in the American
League West.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
Here you go, Robert Ford filling you in on all
the details last night, and nice night out in the
desert for the Astros, and with that we say away
we go in good morning here on the Seawan Salisbury's show,
and I mentioned that Robert Ford filled you in with
the details the final score and also to what the
win meant because the Brewers just continuing to stay hot,

(02:30):
so a good time for them to go into Seattle
for the Astros to try to get that space back
that they had before this recent what was it before
last night, winners of two of their last nine games,
so it hadn't been going well for the Astros, but
at least the last two games it's gone well, Shawn,
So we got that going for us, which is nice.

Speaker 7 (02:51):
Yeah, you'll take a two game winning streak beats two
game losing streak. Good morning, good to see you. Yeah,
and I start to look. I try to stay away
from what it's going to look like five years from now,
right I do. I try to, you know, pass on that.
I mean, just kind of stay in the moment, you know,
trying to do a little bit better job than that.

(03:12):
But with the it's it's hard not to look ahead.
When you see an all franchise. You know, you draft
a guy in football and you say, man, what's it
gonna look.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Like five years from now? I'm just telling you.

Speaker 7 (03:22):
When you start to think, let's just say, nobody moves
with these assets, you start to think about de Zenzo Melton,
Bryce Painia even depending on you know, how long Paradus
ends up being here. You start to look around at
the roster, yinor Diaz, Jordan Alvarez. How's this window when

(03:47):
you look at some of the way that young guys
have played win called up Cam Smith. Let's not leave
the best of the day I don't even to look
at him as a rookie.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
It's weird.

Speaker 7 (03:55):
I just like he's been in a league forever and
he hadn't hadn't played a season yet. So you start
to they are around it. Well, it looks like the
middle infield if they can get people paid, you know,
like meaning Pinya looks like we got Lou Whitaker and
Alan Trammell down the road here with a in the
middle infield on. I mean, you know, that's a that
could be one of those decade long things, depending on

(04:16):
if you a PA.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I don't know if we even do that anymore.

Speaker 7 (04:18):
It used to be that you'd see him and they okay,
I'll see in a decade and and even longer for
those guys.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
So you start to see what it's going to look like. Man,
this guy can play here. You know.

Speaker 7 (04:28):
I always think, well, who's wonder what they have plugged
in for the future at first base? You know, if
if you're trying to create space at one of these
other positions and take these one of these young guys
who can play out like a Decenzo into third base
but also can make him a first baseman, what have you?

Speaker 8 (04:43):
So?

Speaker 7 (04:44):
I think we saw a taste of a little bit
of pop in the bat last night, and Gordon just
kind of, you know, when I watch him pitch, he
just kind of he just kind of gets through it,
doesn't he And you know what, tell me right now,
you wouldn't take that perform Ormans for Lance mccullors the
rest of his career. You know, you scatter what hands,
a handful of hits, give up a few, you know,

(05:07):
runs year til you give up early, and then all
of a sudden your team gets you know, the three
run job puts you back in the lead, and you
never relinquish it. You know, a little nerve wracked at
the end when you know you walk a couple hitters,
got you a little uptight, but Bullpen did a nice
job and you got you you did just enough and
then you know you got to you know, five plus

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out of Gordon. So I just as you look ahead,
I don't I want to know what's going on this
year with injuries and all that. But it seems like
every single young cat who walks through here, Oh can't
leave out Whitcomb as well. I mean, it's it's pretty
uncanny that it's just like, well, what about this guy.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Think about who who was the name.

Speaker 7 (05:53):
Five years ago that you that was irreplaceable centerfielder, shortstop?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Oh yeah, yeah, Springer and uh.

Speaker 7 (06:00):
No, young guy I'm talking about. He plays both minor league.
We've been waiting, We wait and wait and wait and say,
what is he going to be promoted? I'll let you
mull that one over. I've got hurt to remember talking
about how he was going to be. He's on his
way to the big leagues. Can't find his way here? Dude,

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what is he hurt right now? Yes, he used the
right He's on the list right, So what I'm saying
the right? Think about that, that's right? He just did
I think, think about that for a second, that he
was you know, once they got started, when Payna came,
there was we were waiting on this is this is
a future star and he still may be, but can't

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find his way, can't find his way to be in here.
And I can remember for the last four years, every
what's paid on leone doing what's going on with him?
So I just it's impressive for a team that was
down draft picks and assets because of either trades and
or the punishment they had to deal with to be

(07:06):
able to find gems in. This is pretty impressive, man,
and you know, don't want to get off. It's one
two home run game. And Bryce Matthews, we know he's
got a he's a player, but fits right in second bay.
And you know, we know he can play short, which
was I was drafted. But if you can get pain,
you signed. That middle end feels pretty damn good on
both sides of the ball. So I'm just both sides,

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should I say, meaning offense defensively. So, but those wins
last night are important, and Gordon did what you got
to do. Get it to the bullpen, but get it
to him a little bit later than two and two
thirds and you'll take that. If you get a performance
like that from every pitcher that's not named Hunter Brown
and from er Valdez the rest of the year, they'll
win the division and they'll have a legit shot. So

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but you just plug a guy in boom homers twice
and still trying to find he doesn't even know how
to play yet. And that's and that thought, I'll tell
you what his skill set is. So an impressive win
last night against team that's playing really well, that right
now is on the fence whether they're buying or selling.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
And this series may have a lot to do with that.

Speaker 7 (08:06):
Yeah, And so you know they'd won four straight I believe,
going into the All Star Break coming out of it,
or should I say, let's four straight post All Star
break as well? And you know you welcome them into
your Cardinals, that's exactly right. And you want another team too,
that's right, you welcome in just like what are the
Red Sox going to do if if if those three

(08:26):
teams are selling. Dude, there's some players now you'll find
so you'll you'll find a player or two in there.
Uh And I'm I'm understanding, because there's some guys that
can help teams. But I would imagine in the next
you know, eight to ten days, that's going to be,
that's going to be people are going to be making
a bunch of phone calls to them. But the wins
like last night were just going in on the road

(08:47):
and playing good, solid baseball. And it's amazing what happens
when you give up a run but you're able to
match them and then raise them too and make them
chase and when you get to that bullpen post fifth
inning and they get a little bit of rest. They're
pretty dynamic, man, So it was precise.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
It was. It was a big win last night.

Speaker 7 (09:05):
And I don't want to look to the future, but
a kid at second base is pretty damn good.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
Flying around defensively. And then last night, I mean, he
hits that three run homer, and I mean, at least,
you know, on the surface, you look at it, You're like, oh,
it's only two or three rows out.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
You know what, he's there four hundred and fifty feet.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean he hit it
to the deepest part of the park and he's still
knew no, I got that baseball, So yeah, it was
all good. And then the second one and absolute no doubtter.
But I mean, he's gaining confidence. There's something to be
said about you give these guys a chance. You look
at the way Taylor Tremmel swung the bat the last night.
Let's leave him asw old is he he is? I

(09:46):
want to say twenty seven.

Speaker 7 (09:47):
I was gonna say, he's still pretty much in the
infancy of his career, even though he's a little bit
older for a guy.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Who's just getting his legit chance to.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
Play, and he is right at twenty seven and he
was the thirty fifth pick overall out of high school.

Speaker 7 (09:59):
So he remember when he came out, how how how
highly thought of he was. I didn't watch him in
the minor leagues, but when he came out, that name
was rampant throughout baseball. You said, yeah, he said, what
was the early second round guy?

Speaker 6 (10:12):
Yeah, he was thirty fits so I think that was
the sandwich round or what they used to call the
old sandwich round in between the first and.

Speaker 7 (10:19):
But he came, he came with big reputation when he
left Hime, when he when he came out of school.
And you know, sometimes it takes everybody's not on the
same schedule. You know, we expect everybody to be, well,
you're gonna get up here, Paul Skins.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's not normal.

Speaker 7 (10:35):
Okay, those guys just don't fall on land in your
lap as a pitcher or everyday player. When you do,
like Cam Smith, you got something pretty special. So yeah,
there's some exciting and you know what's invaluable, even though
it frustrates us with the injuries, is the the run
these guys are getting, even though you hate the way
they're getting it because of injuries. But that's called pro

(10:57):
sports man. It's called why you get paid, it's called
why you do it. And you're listen, Like I've always said, manager,
front office, coaches, they're all trying to find somebody better
than you. And when they do, they'll they'll they'll find
a way to put him in at some point, depending
on how much money got invested in the other side

(11:17):
of it. All good players I know are even a
guy like Scheffler in in a way, but he's obviously
individual and plays with his caddy and all that as
coaches swing coach. But guys like that that are driven
by Okay, I got this, that don't get comfortable, that
that love the competition, that love that, that never get complacent.

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And you've got to be really good as a young
player here to not only break in, but when you're
in to stay in, and that you're always trying to
make it miserable to be replaced. You don't want to
be And and this the young players on this franchise, man,
they just they just keep doing it. I mean, is
Bryce s Matthew Is he a thirty home run a
second base twenty five home run guy? I mean?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Is this?

Speaker 7 (12:04):
I mean, I don't know what his most was before
this where his power? But whether it's in school? How
many hit in high school?

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Would?

Speaker 7 (12:11):
I mean, I don't know where his what kind of power?
I mean, I know I know the scouting report on him,
but is the pop expected on a regular basis?

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I think that I mean the plus power guy though, right?

Speaker 7 (12:25):
Or is he is he was? I mean, let's say
he was about average. Okay, so we're talking about we're
talking about four tools. But because I know he can run,
and you know he can play the defense and put
the ball in play. But if that's the guy you get,
maybe you're looking at a guy who turns it into
plus power with a little you know, understanding pitching in
Major League Baseball. I know we got to go to break,
but I'm impressed with not that they're out to impress me,

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but impressed with the way and the invaluable part I'm
talking about. Think about in any sport where you're forced
to play a young guy because you got no choice
and you really thought, well, I'm a year away from
from us that guy taking taking us to another level, right,
and now you're enforced to play twenty of them. It
feels like and it seems like every single one of them,

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one way or another is making a play. And you
never know when the guy's ready because they're on different
time schedules. But I can tell you this, when they
set foot and in the dyke and Park, they seem
to be a little more mature in advanced than other
young guys. Now every team has one. This team seems
to have a limit limited unlimited supply. Yeah, you never

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want to look at it like that. And I get
a little bit of concern that one of them, like
a melting or something, did in the next week part
of a package to get to get that. That's something.
But it's a blessing, bitter, it's it's bittersweet. It means
that you're keep you you got a lot of resources
that you can you lean on for your own franchise,

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but also to go get a guy that gets you
over the top. And that's the price you pay for
staying competitive. This starts as a negative, but it finishes
as a positive. So you know, obviously in football is
the turk the guy that you know, you see him,
you're like, oh no, that's that's not good in your playbook. Well,
the positive here is do you do you think there's
basically like a baseball version of the Turk that goes
to Mickey's story at the triple A level, and as

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soon as he sees him, he's like, who do you
need now? I mean, that's why, that's what it's been
for the last you know, month and a half. Oh,
no doubt. And he's got to take great pride and
on Yeah, well he'll send him to you. He's ready. Yeah,
he's ready to show you. He's got some matter of fact,
we've got a couple other guys here too, but al
Twovey's playing until he's like seventy, So I can't get

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him in there. I mean, and whatever, you know what
I'm saying. You start rolling through and it's like, man,
so by what a what a?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
What a? What a feeder it's become.

Speaker 7 (14:42):
And even when you go get somebody from somewhere else,
they seem to have a really good eye for talent
and scouting it and developing it. Last night and now
back to the current, it was a was a really
good win for them last night. I don't take those
for granted, because Arizona's becoming a and they've got some talent,
and they've got some pitching.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
So there you go, man. Pretty impressive.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
Yeah, and for the Astros right now, I think the
goal is pretty simple and we'll discuss that goal here
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Speaker 1 (15:23):
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Speaker 3 (15:24):
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Speaker 1 (15:28):
I'm Sports Talk seven nine Lance McCullers. How about the
performance your home for Houston Astros baseball?

Speaker 6 (15:35):
His career mostly in San Diego with the Chargers, But
he said, I'm Philip Rivers, I'm a quarterback. I'm retiring
as a Charger. So now, of course, I'm sure if
we had the Talking Head TV on today and they
stopped talking about Jerry Jones and the Cowboys for a
couple of minutes and they mentioned Philip Rivers, you know
that that topic would come up of is he a

(15:55):
Hall of Famer?

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, well it doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 7 (15:59):
The Rivers the house, you know, it seems like a
pretty old centric, a simple country boy, right.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
With a ton of kids.

Speaker 7 (16:05):
Yeah, yes, well, you know he fills up a full
pew at church. I was gonna say, he's got an
entire offense, so yeah, he can hear he does. I
don't even know if they're done yet. I mean, it's crazy.
I think that he's got it. By the time he's done,
he'll have a dream team and you just don't have
to go outside his family to find it. Yeah, the
River's kid, which one high school coaching? Can you imagine

(16:29):
that the oldest will be old enough to be the
dad of the youngest at some point, you would think,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
I think his oldest is like either like a freshman
or sophomore in college, and the youngest is like an infant.
And it's true.

Speaker 7 (16:41):
So I mean, you know there's people who are having
babies at seventeen eighteen years old. I mean old school,
that was normal. Getting married at sixteen. Oh yeah, I'll
have a grocery bill that is no doubt. Well, he
made plenty, so I would doubt his salary at you know,
in high school the coaching high school football, may was
he and who is he? And who are out of Mama?

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Or no, he's I want to say, he's like close
to mobile.

Speaker 7 (17:03):
Okay, so yeah, so let me look, you know, coaching
Jamie from Joe Rogan here, there you go coaching and
in that and you know what, I'll bet you if
you put Philip Rivers on the set of a broadcast,
I don't know if he'd ever want to, but his energy,
I'll bet you he'd be good because he feels I
think he'd be a really good As a matter of fact,
I could throw him in there among all these other

(17:23):
guys and watch him talk football because you know, his energy,
the x's and o's, I think he'd be a really
good at it. But I just think he loves being
around football man. Yeah, it's uh, it's in the mobile area.
It's fair hope, Okay, where he's at. But just right there,
the little boot at the bottom.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Just a good guy. Well the comps put it this way.

Speaker 7 (17:44):
It's a he and Matt Ryan will goes through some
similar stuff when it comes to whether they get in
the Matt Ryan's advantage he's an MVP in the league.
But Phil rivers advantage is that he put up big
numbers longer and did it with Dido, who do he
finished with at the end of Colts.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Was he cold? But for the most part, of course.

Speaker 7 (18:05):
When people say, well, you're gonna he's gonna retire a Charger, well,
no kidding, I mean yeah, he spent the majority of his.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Eighty year career there.

Speaker 7 (18:12):
I just love his competitiveness and what he's about. And
to me, listen, the argument you're going to get is
and there was nothing average about him. But the Hall
of Fame's not made for good. The Hall of Fame's
supposed to be for great. And you say, well, what's
the difference in him and Eli Manning? Will two super
Bowl rings and getting the m v P and the

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biggest game. You're like, and doesn't hurt that you're It
really doesn't hurt that your last names Manning. But there'll
be an argument not everybody's gonna put Eli in either
because you look at the numbers and the wins and losses.
I mean, it's but Eli's durability and play I on
the surface because I love the guy and I love
dude the greatest. The two the two the franchise with

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two of the greatest quarterbacks that couldn't move a lick
off their spot when they played and Rivers. Think about
those two guys couldn't move four steps, and yet from
the pocket toughest one hundred year old, leather tough sobs
man Fouts was that, And it's funny they didn't. They
went from Fouts like well, you'd think, well, maybe we
got to get some mobile No, no, no, that I mean

(19:17):
we rolled through Fouts, rolled through Humphreys, rolled through Gail, Gilbert,
rolled through me, rolled guys.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Who weren't going to move much. That franchise is knowed for.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
Well, Herbert's finally won, but he's big like those guys,
but yet he can move. Philip Rivers sit in that pocket,
delivering the ball for a guy who didn't have the
versatility to move out of the pocket. Phil Rivers didn't
run for eight yards in his career. I wouldn't think
I'm joking, but I loved his his competitiveness and just
everything about him leadership. One of the great leaders we've had.

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There's a part of me that wants to say he's
Hall of Famer. But here's the deal. You can't just
put him in for numbers alone. Now, he said, well
you did with Marino. Now, if they're gaudy that's where
it comes in. The gaudy numbers may out last, and
your durabilion in the length of your career may outlast the
the If you said Rivers or Matt Ryan, I'm inclined
to put Rivers in before Matt Ryan.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yet Matt Ryan was in a Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 (20:09):
Now Matt Ryan wins that game down twenty eight to three,
he probably is probably a guarantee, right and just that.
So it's weird that it's a quarterback award, I meaning
a quarterback record that wins and loss just on the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
That's the way we do it. It's like pitching.

Speaker 7 (20:25):
So there's a part of me that wants to say
Philip Rivers is the Hall of Famer, and I think
he's so likable that the guys that are on the
fence will vote him.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:34):
And so my gut tells me at some point he
is going to get in, but it's going to be
a minute and he's not a first ballot Hall of Famer.
And the question is are we rewarding really really good
or is a Hall of Fame. I don't think we
have four hundred guys in the Hall of Fame in
the NFL. I don't think if we are, we're not.
It ain't much more than that, dude, I bet I'll
bet you it's in the upper three hundreds. If at

(20:56):
the mid to upper three hundred, I'll bet you we
haven't reached four hundred.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yet in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
Let's see you total number of Pro Football Hall of Famers.
You're not wrong as of this year, three hundred and
eighty two.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
There you go.

Speaker 7 (21:06):
So think about that all the players each year in
the league, and really Pro Bowlers all over the place,
of you know, litter all throughout it. Think about that
the Pro we have less than four hundred members of
the Hall of Fame in all these years of football.
So are we going to reward really really good or
is Hall of Fame reserved for great Now? Each individual

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who votes has to decide that. I'm gonna say he
gets in, because if there's a deciding vote of likable,
you're gonna put him in. But I would think that
some Hall of famers would have the argument, well, Dan Fouts,
isn't it. I mean, Founx is in the Hall of Fame.
But Fouts didn't win a Super Bowl, never got to one,
and put up big numbers. Now, I'm going to tell

(21:49):
you right now, if Fouts goes and wins the Super
Bowl the year that that game in Cincinnati was fifty
nine below you, you're holding Fouts in higher regard.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Founx is doing the stuff.

Speaker 7 (21:59):
They were throwing the all around the lot like BYU
when they were there, Norm Chow doing a lot of stuff.
B why you did, and Sid Gilman and Don Corriel
with the Chargers, they were doing the stuff they're doing now,
just different names on the body, and you'd label it different.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
They were doing this years ago. Now we're just doing
it a different way.

Speaker 7 (22:16):
So I'm inclined to say Philip Rivers going to get in,
but he's not a first ballot Hall of Famer, and
there will be some that won't vote me in, and
I would get it because you say, is a Hall
of Fame for the best of the best of the
best or is it for the really really good? And
that's what you're going to get the argument from. But
good on him, and what a hell of a career
and a hell of a good dude.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
You almost wonder what football's version of the steroid era
is in baseball, is that when it comes to quarterbacks.
So he threw for this many thousands of yards, then
the response from somebody in the room will be everybody
through for thousands of yards.

Speaker 7 (22:48):
The truth is, four thousand yards is no longer the barometer.
Mm hmm, it's no. And see the differences. In baseball,
their top numbers are going down and in football they're
going up. Because you're gonna get it, You're in truth.
You're gonna get guys that are just decent starting quarterbacks
that'll throw for four thousand yards.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
It's just true.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
It was a system quarterback, all right. Well he played
the system really well.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
Right, and I don't hate him for it, but that's
just what you're gonna get. Yet, Marino was thrown for
almost five thousand in nineteen eighty.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Three, eighty four. What do you throw for now? Oh?

Speaker 7 (23:23):
Well, sick because we don't have a guy that get
the ball out like I mean, as good as the
Burrows and those guys are from the pocket.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Nobody got it out like this cat did of all time.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
So I'm inclined to say, and you know, if the
measuring stick and see name of God in Joe's stats,
and name it I every year the uniform the number
the face mask, the towel, the shoes. Everything I wore
was because that's what Nameth war. That's the honest to
God truth. When I want to wear what he wears
because I love him. Plus he got in her prime
and Margarete right for you, among others. Don't kid yourself.

(23:54):
And Joe's such a giving guy, dude, I'm telling you
what I hear. Phenomenal human being. But you look at
his numbers. Take away what he did for the game
when he guaranteed the super Bowl, and all that name
is numbers. He's the closest to Marino when it came
from ripping it from the pocket. Couldn't move a lick,
but could throw it and timing and quick release and
beautiful ball spinner and and you know Rogers has some

(24:15):
of that in him too, But Joe without that, look
at his numbers, you say that's not Hall of Fame.
But he was a game changer with the you know,
with the with the NFL and what the AFL and
the rest of I mean, did some amazing things. So
I'm inclined to say Rivers gets in, But is it
good or great? There'll be some that'll disagree. And he
he'll if he gets in, it will be post first time,

(24:37):
second time, third time type thing.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah, But I mean for numbers are the lumbers.

Speaker 7 (24:41):
But you're right, average quarterbacks nowadays, if you throw thirty
five hundred yards in the NFL, you're just you're just
a You're just a guy, unless, of course you're Jalen
Hurts and you got Barkley and you're winning super Bowls.
But for the most part, I mean, you're starting quarterback
for seventeen games in this league and you don't throw
for It's like a running back you start, you can't
rush for a thousand yard. That's no longer the barometer

(25:01):
twelve thousand yards sixty nine yards a gamer less now
with seventeen games. So it just depends on how we
rank it. But Philip rivers that a hell of a career.
If he gets in, we shouldn't argue if he doesn't
get in, I would get that argument as well.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
Fun era quarterbacks and they're in the late to you know,
early twenty ten's right there.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
We had some really good ones in the league at
that time. Kim, can we can when you throw the break?
Can I give you?

Speaker 7 (25:23):
I used to do this a lot and I'll do
it again the stat of the day. I always come
up with a baseball statur of the week once or twice,
and I'll get on June second, Ellie de la Cruz
struck out his four hundred and thirty fifth time.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Of his young career.

Speaker 7 (25:40):
Twenty year career total to Tony Gwynn four thirty four perspective, brother,
and he put the ball on point at one point.
Frank Tanana fourteen straight twelve or fourteen straight complete games
when he was pitching.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I think it was with the Angels at the time.

Speaker 7 (26:00):
Times have change, brother, and uh, sometimes not for the better.
Take a look at that swing and miss. We don't
care about it. Gwyn struck out four hundred and thirty
four times in his career, Ellie de la Cruz is
what three years into his or whatever it is, four
hundred and thirty four times. We don't even better Nye anymore.
It's just like struck out well a couple of times. Well,
now about he hit a couple of home runs, so

(26:22):
you know that that makes up for it. Tony Gwynn
would rake in this era, dude, he would. It wouldn't
matter he put a blindfold on it, hit three hundred.
The baseball wore. People out there though, would disagree with him, Well,
of course they would. Well, yeah, because I guess hitting
three seventy isn't very good.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
We don't.

Speaker 7 (26:38):
We don't like batting average as much sirm runs. Okay, now,
I just know that guy on first gives the next
guy to hit a two run homer.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
That's true. So that's a good point.

Speaker 7 (26:46):
Give me Gwynn all day in a clutch moment against
any pitcher. I'll take him over any home run hitter
because the ball will be in play at some point.
Pretty good, no doubt about. It's someone three two, five,
seven nine. Let's get back into the astro conversation because
the goal in the current times it's simple.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
We'll talk about it here.

Speaker 6 (27:06):
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Speaker 7 (27:15):
Is disdained ANDIO live and well today doesn't feel actually
feel good?

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (27:20):
You know you're going on vacation tomorrow and they have
vacation tomorrow. Frigging country. Who are you the what are
you the Matt Thomas show.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
I was going to say, I mean, I sit in
the seat, So it's pretty much anybody who sits in
this seat. You know, you just you take a ton
of time off because it's Matt Thomas, Ivy shies.

Speaker 7 (27:34):
Everybody else start taking time off. Adam Clinton, think about
your country club. You come rolling into the show. What's
weird about four months together?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Now? Ah? Yeah, sin since March.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
Very much about mid March. I want to say, like
round of I think like the sweet sixteen is when
we first.

Speaker 7 (27:46):
Had so far months. So yeah, they roll it. I mean,
look at your country club. Let's not bury the lead.
I mean, I'm at an All Star game, I'm at
SEC Media Day, fat Cat with Kirby Smart. I'm meaning
you come home, you know, fat Cat a little bit.
Get back in here. Football is about to start. You
going on your vacation. I mean, what a country club?
Are unfrigging believable?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Orde Beach. Yeah you need tan.

Speaker 7 (28:10):
I was gonna say this itself. Yeah you got you
gotta get to what you might want to go visit
the boot. What are you leaving tomorrow? You're gonna You're
gonna stop by the Tanning booth. Maybe get Yeah, maybe
get one tan in before you get out to the
sub so you don't ruin your vacation because you've just
got the chills because you right, you got to get
the base just like eight minutes in the booth, right,
But yeah, what what a freaking country club. But that

(28:33):
being said, let's not bury the lead. Do we really
think the Clippers got better last night? No, as much
as Chris Paul. Listen, Chris Paul is gonna Chris great career, dude,
the numbers, the leadership, he's been phenomenal. Kawhi Leonard will
sit out about twenty five games, but he'll be good
when he plays twenty five.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
I'm giving.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
I'm trying to be kind, Okay, So Kawhi, let's see
they play.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
If they play, let's see eighty two of them.

Speaker 7 (29:02):
Yeah, you give you about fifty fifty five. Okay, So
there's that. The load management on that team's going to
be precious to watch. I can't wait. Kawhi Leonard, great player,
but minimal. James Harden while you're playing with four guys
on defense, he'll score. But I'll be damned that the

(29:23):
DNA disappears when it comes to great basketball player. Come postseason.
He ain't winning a championship as you as your guy.
We've already seen this movie in Brooklyn. He said, those
guys played what fifteen games together when Kyrie Irvan and
that group and Kevin Durant were together. So that and
then it seems like the common denominator among this stuff
is where James goes. You're going not to win a championship.
Yet he's a great player offensively in a great score.

(29:45):
Get a shot. And then you got Chris Paul phenomenal.
He'll have a hammy that keeps him out twenty I
mean at some point in time. But a world title
here if he does, surefire, hall of famer, all those things,
all three Hall of famers there. I'll take any bet
from anybody that wants to. They've got zero shot. Well
percentage wise, they got a shot because they're playing to

(30:07):
be in the NBA Finals. They're the fifth best team
in the West.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
You put them against this team here there, get boat
raced just came out up and down the court on them.

Speaker 7 (30:15):
Yes, they they'll destroy them. Oklahoma City's better defensively is
better as long as Jokic doesn't get moved, right, The
Lakers add and I mean I would think the Lakers
in truth, if if they can come together and Lebron's there,
you mean they you get quit smoking grits and start
working out, or work out and keep smoking grits. So

(30:36):
you start to think about the things that they balance.
Of course, so when they did, it's like, oh, Chris,
we've seen the movie, dude, and that movie. Guess what
ends up short, here's what I do. No, Kawhy's got
his respect, those two other guys respect for great careers.
They're both going to have as many rings as you
and I do when it comes matter Well, when it
comes to NBA, we'll have as many rings next June

(30:59):
as those to do. And I think this will probably
be what Chris Paul's last go. I think it is
maximum too.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Maybe one more.

Speaker 7 (31:06):
Yeah, but while the Clippers got a veteran leader vet. Yeah,
it's been a hell of a run. Hell of a
hell of a run. That's a long career to be
a Hall of Famer and not have a ring. Has
anybody played longer without a ring in a professional sport
that'd say hall of Famer? Maybe maybe Barkley. I don't
think Charles got twenty one years in Yeah, maybe, I
mean pushing what seventeen eighteen years? That's good Malone in Stockton?

(31:31):
Did they get twenty one? I'm talking about twenty that
many years and not win an NBA championship. But the Clippers, Clippers,
they just added they're just another year and player older.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
So I just, uh, Malone was two years short.

Speaker 7 (31:46):
He was nineteen seasons right, So and I don't think
Barkley's the night right, so that guy. But I don't
know if we've ever had in any sport a player
play longer that's put up a Hall of Fame career
and a no brainer Hall of Fame career this one
and been on teams that have been loaded with some
talent and comes up short. So I don't know what
that with the thread and the reason why. But I

(32:08):
can tell you this, if he retires next year, it
ain't gonna be with the ring on his finger unless
he's unless he redoes his vows with his wife. They
ain't winning a title. That team's old and the only
thing missing now is they need to go hire Doc
Rivers to prove to us that they can't do it again.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
They them, Yeah, maybe it was there.

Speaker 7 (32:24):
Yeah, maybe Garnett comes out of retirement, and you get
Polly Walnuts and Ray Allen to go help them too.
Other than that, the Clippers will ah, what a bummer,
and then they'll we're having a little uh, we're selling
like seven guys at the end of the season.

Speaker 6 (32:38):
Right, Jesus shuttles Worth, I'm sure it can probably still
showing hate Jesus shuttles Worth. No, he can fell it. Okay,
some people call him heyesus and Shuttlesworth. Right, you got Jesus,
there you go.

Speaker 7 (32:51):
So I just had to get that in because I
like Chris Paul and James Harden, both good players in Kawhi,
but all three of them have something you're like not
to like, even though they're all three going to the
Hall of Fame and Kawhi has got his rings settled. Kawhi,
it's just like you, let me get my fifty five
or sixty and if I can load management, will be
alive and well and say and I wanted to say

(33:12):
in San Diego with Sadia Clippers a Los Angeles.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
Shooting still translates too, because I remembered once when Elston
Turner was a assistant for the Rockets. He was just
doing like a fun little one on one with somebody,
and he's, you know, shooting jump shots, and I was like,
still got it? Oh, like Ray Allen, I guarantee you
he still got it.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
There's no doubt.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
And when Harden retires and when he's like he's with
his kids or and he's getting a kid and he's
teaching them how to play basketball, the kid will never
be able to out shoot his old man. His dad
will be seventy five knocking down jumpers.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
Will maybe not as much lift, but still, yeah, the
release is still there.

Speaker 7 (33:46):
Poor Steph Curry's kids. You know, when his kid, hey,
you want to play point guard? Sure can you shoot? Yeah?
Like your dad? No, okay, what dad will be knocking
down threes at eighty five while his kid's like, Dad,
I'm going to be a first round pick and they
still can't out that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
I love a shooter, great golfer.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
Yeah, well, it sucks to be uh, it sucks to
put time in and actually be good at what you
do and good at what other people do too. Want
to run that guys, He's crept into the top fifteen
of all time best players.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
He's hurt this team a lot, There's no question about that.
But it doesn't seem like Chris Paul and the company
are going to be doing that to this Rockets team
this year not too far away. Give me the Rockets
six ways of Sunday and twice on Sunday in that series. Dude,
especially too, if they played they curb stop them, it
wouldn't even be close. With the improvements they've made, and
I mean some of the guys they've invested in, It's
gonna be a fun year. I'm looking forward to it,

(34:36):
no doubt about it. The Astros. How about that win
last night's and I think it kind of feeds into
what we've been talking about lately with this team.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
We'll talk about it right here.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
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Speaker 1 (34:50):
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Speaker 6 (34:56):
Mentioned Taylor Tremmell earlier what he's been giving you at
some point, Zach short what he's given you. Although on
that possible double play on Corbyn Carrol, I mean as
soon as he threw that baseball, I was yelling it
out loud, do not throw that baseball? And sure enough
you know throws it past Colton, Gordon goes at a

(35:17):
dugout and you know, Caroll able to get a second.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
But that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 6 (35:21):
But the way things are going right now for the
Astros is yesterday, there's a lot of doom and gloom,
I mean, just because of how things had been going.
And I mean still you're not fully out of this yet,
even though you've won two games in a row. It's
just pretty simple for the Astros until they get some
semblance of health. And we'll get into yord On a
little bit later on, but for right now, for the Astros,

(35:45):
it's don't let the ships sink. You're gonna take on water,
You're going to do all those things. You might lose
a few series in a row. Now, you might even
every once in a while get swept. You don't want
that to happen, but it's more than anything. Salvagees are
your friends. Whereas for the longest time it's been you
win a series, well then you just keep it moving

(36:05):
because that's the way this thing's supposed to go.

Speaker 7 (36:08):
No doubt, Dan, let me ask you. You can answer this.
You can mull this over before go to break. When
the season ends, and I don't know when it's gonna end.
This is for you to and for our listeners. Question
of the day a week or two after the season ends,
What are you gonna be saying about the Astros this year?

(36:29):
You think, what are you going to be saying? You
tell me, Are you gonna be saying Jordan didn't live
up to we'd never got him healthy and that was
the problem. Are you gonna be saying pitching broke down
or pitching you continue to rear their head? Are you
gonna be is gonna be person specific? Is it gonna
be he's the manager of the year? Is it gonna be?

Speaker 8 (36:46):
Man?

Speaker 7 (36:46):
It was a World Series that they weren't supposed to win.
This is awesome, But what are we going to be
saying and not the horror part or we're World Series champs?
I understand their team. What is the major theme we
will be talking about with what's round sixty or so
games to go? What are we going to be saying
on Thanksgiving about the Astros? Do you think about what

(37:08):
what are we gonna say? We're gonna be saying starting
pitching let us down? The hitting just couldn't pull through.
The hitting was unbelievable the second half, Jordon came back,
look what it did? World Series champs? Where what are
you going to be saying at your Thanksgiving table and say, hey, man,
football seasons here, But man, what do you think about baseball?
It'll start soon, hot stove leagues about to kill What
what will you be saying about the astros? I'm curious

(37:30):
what are people think? I got the mouse cursor it's
going on right now. How they get the cartoons of
the movies and they show like all a math question
going on and a guy's said, like a math bubble,
the hamster's on the wheel. There you go. So now
I'm just curious what the majority of people say. Come
up short. It was a hell of a run. We
weren't expected to do it. Is it young players that

(37:50):
that's the future? The future is now? And some of
these veterans time to move on from what what are
you going to be saying? What's the end game in
twenty twenty five? Got my answer? Okay, and we'll discuss
right here.

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Speaker 1 (38:49):
Where no matter how was the question? What was the question?
So it was Thanksgiving?

Speaker 6 (38:54):
No matter where the Astros season ends, How are we
talking about the twenty twenty five Astro.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, you do describe it to me. I didn't watch
the season.

Speaker 7 (39:01):
Tell me what the theme was and when when you're
talking at Thanksgiving dinner, what's the conversation that surrounded the
Astros when all of a sudden done this show.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
They were achieved, got the most out of this team.
Because you'd never go into a season expecting that you're
gonna need more than what thirty five players you're hoping
because I mean, you are gonna have injuries, you are
gonna have guys that are out. But I mean to
the stat that I said that. Chandler Rome shared on
Sunday that with estoc paratus out. You now have five

(39:30):
guys who were in your opening day lineup that are
on the IL currently at the moment, right and some
might be back sooner rather than later. You don't know
on certain others, but I mean, who who who on
their Bingo card this year had Taylor Tremmell contributing because
I mean you knew that they signed him. You knew
that they had them, but you were hoping they weren't
gonna have to need them. That was more or less

(39:51):
insurance for if Jake Myers didn't become the Jake Myers
that we got to.

Speaker 7 (39:55):
Know this year when they show up in West Palm Beach.
Who on their Bengo card had Gordon Walter, a litany
of player of bullpen pitchers, Kurt O, Kurt Susa, Augusto, Yes,
you heard no question about it. Had Cam Smith leading

(40:18):
off and doing it when it was beginning to tranking.
He wasn't in spring training, he wasn't gonna you were thinking,
twenty twenty seven is when we see Cam Smith right
and and hopefully he's ready to go. Then I mean
paradis I mean, you go through the list, dude, and
all these young players. So the sweet part of it
is we'll getting a glimpse of what it looks like
the stay and still in first place. The bummer part

(40:40):
of it is that you wonder if you're getting the
most out of it. Yet you start to think, well,
is this a blessing in disguise? Because some of these
young guys are actually better maybe than some of the
guys who were Cagie. But you got listen, you're not
just depth wise alone. So when you say you're gonna
say they overachieved, overachieved into what first place? Elimination of
the playoffs, What overachieved into made it to the ALCS,

(41:06):
overachieved into winning a World Series, or just overachieved and
made the playoffs? What's the what's the end game as
far as what we're saying about them overall how they
ended the season aside the theme for you will be overachieved?
Does that overachievement end up in deep into the playoffs,
missing the playoffs, winning the division?

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Wards an end?

Speaker 6 (41:24):
I think that this team, you get six of those
sixteen guys back, there's no reason this team can't at
least get to an LCS. How well they've pitched, and
you get some of those guys back, and I mean
you do that after about you know what in November
December last year. I'm trying to remember when Kyle Tucker
was traded. But when that happened, it was the doom

(41:46):
and gloom. It was the thought of, yeah, Dana's same,
we're going to compete now, but why would we puch anybody?

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Right? Right? It's all all of that turned out pretty good.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
So I mean, I mean, even when we did our
season predictions, I picked the Astros to win the West,
but you roflow a lot of people going with the Rangers.

Speaker 7 (42:01):
Yeah, I picked I picked the Rangers to come back,
and when I had the Astros, I think as a
wild card. Yeah, but I had the Rangers win in
the division. And I'm not going to waffle. We obviously
know who I want to win the division. But just
looking at it fair when you and that was pre
all this stuff. That that was with Jorda unhealthy and
al Tuove in left field and whoever is going to

(42:21):
be your regular second basement and having some depth and
and uh hoping that that Cam Smith can be a player,
but who's going to replace Tucker and right field? And
will parade us be anything like Bregman at third base.
Offensively when he's going hot after his initial starts, and
then and defensively, I mean, look around yet. I mean
you're starting to see your guy Christian Walker heat up.
But a yainer hasn't played what we're used to. They've

(42:44):
been hurt all over starting pitching. Lance has had his
ups and downs and right now going through some downs.
So you roll through the damn thing and it's like,
there's no way. So and I had I had them
getting to the playoffs without winning division, and that's with
all of them healthy, and now they're I mean, look
where they're at now. So yeah, So you think so

(43:06):
World Series is and how this is going to end
in your mind, I don't see that.

Speaker 6 (43:11):
I don't see any reason why it can't. I just
would you bet it right now?

Speaker 1 (43:16):
No, because I just I don't know how many of
those guys are coming back.

Speaker 7 (43:20):
There you go, and I think the majority of people
would say the same thing. And so I'm curious what
our callers say. And when you're sitting at Thanksgiving dinner
and the baseball comes up, which is you know those
it always says, yeah, you just finished with.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
Our relative and the Astros. This year is pretty good.
I want all that, how does it in this year?
And what's the theme that you're going to talk about?
Yours is undefeated, make it to the playoffs, hope for
a World Series, but right now just not enough depth
and stars to do it. I would say that another
you know, how you thought about this season satisfying because

(43:54):
when you had all of the guys that were part
of your core, you know, the Koreas, the Springers, all
of those guys. I mean, it was anything less than
at least going to the LCS hell in some people's eyes,
anything less than going to the World Series and winning
it was a disappointment. And the fact that this year
we're even having the conversation that they could still possibly
be able to do all of those things. I mean,

(44:16):
I think that it's almost gravy at this point that
you look at it and you say, however, this thing ends.

Speaker 7 (44:21):
Right we sit back and say house money, those players
in back saying, screw house money.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
This is my career that we got to go.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
Still twenty seven over there, We've still got a lot
of really good players here.

Speaker 7 (44:33):
Exactly what here's mine? If I was saying it, I
would say validation, would be my theme. They validated who
we think they are. They just keep developing players in
the future. Looks validated that we know it's not just
when somebody gets hurt, somebody else can step in validation
of how we feel about their grind, I guess, and
their resilience.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
For me.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
Secondly, I think this team will be in the American
League Championships series, especially if the pitching stays healthy. Now
I don't know if hitting's going to do it saying this,
and that's not knowing when Payana and the group's going
to come back. I think they'll validate how we feel
about the organization. Maybe you don't pay as much, but

(45:12):
that they continue and the window stays open validate that
for us. And then I think that I think they'll
be playing for a league for a chance to go to.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
The World Series in a long series and see if
they can pull.

Speaker 7 (45:25):
I don't know right now if they will, but I
think at the end will also be whether they get
that far or not, or if they do get that far,
we'll be saying there's no way you would have expected this,
considering all that they've been through and how much longer
are these injuries gonna last? Before you actually have a
full go. And that's a lot, a lot of sidebars
in this run, man, And there's a there's a massive
amount of sidebars. And I think that you know, it's

(45:45):
also just looking at everybody else and you don't know
what trades you know, the Yankees or the Blue Jays,
or you know the Tigers, any any of those other
teams are going to make.

Speaker 6 (45:54):
I mean, hell, even in your own division. Just thought
that the guy hit a home run off you last
night is going to go back to Seattle. Heino Suarez,
and you have him and Cal Rawley hitting with each other.
I mean, when they're going good, it's a pretty lethal tandem.
But there's also a lot of ALS's got five home runs, dude,
or is it more that he ombered again last night?

Speaker 10 (46:12):
He did?

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah, i' thought he's what at thirty six? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (46:14):
He he hit a two pitch for a homer And
that was exactly that thirty.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Six thirty six home runs.

Speaker 7 (46:21):
The majority of the league ain't gonna it ain't gonna
hit thirty six this year, let alone thirty.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
There's not a guy on this team that I think
is going to sniff thirty this year.

Speaker 7 (46:29):
I think about that, and I think about at the
at the midway point you've had a season, he'll strike
out one hundred and eighty times, but nobody cares because
he can pump the ball into the seats. So yeah,
I'm I'm anxious to see what it's going to look
like when we're having this conversation next Tuesday about the
trail as it pushes with the deadlines at thirty first.
So that's what like next Thursday or Friday Thursday? Yeah,

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there you go, so Thursday, four o'clock local time. Anxious
to see where it goes. But yeah, how our fans
feel about what it's going to listeners? How the Astros
fan should I say? What you what you're going to
be saying in your debate or your conversation at your
Thanksgiving table about the Astros. The one word to describe
them are the one sentence? And where does the season end?

(47:13):
Does it end in November or does it end somewhere
before then?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Curious?

Speaker 6 (47:18):
Well, I mean you would love for it to end
in November, and if it does, I mean that's even
more gravy. But I mean, just for right now, you know,
I look at some of the other teams out there, Detroit.
They've gone through their struggles recently. Hell, when they went
on Sunday, they broke a six game losing streak. I
mean the Astros and they can pitch, so that they
can pitch, and they're hitting a lot better and they're

(47:38):
still getting guys back too. They've had some some injured
players to deal with it. You know, with them, the
Yankees don't don't scare me. I mean, you see New York,
I think that you could handle the good pitch and
can get them out. I do well. I always you
saw last year, even with Soto and Judge, it was
if Sodo and Judge hit, that team wins. If Soto
and Judge don't hit well, and it's it's bad times.

Speaker 7 (48:01):
And the one thing going for them, the guy has
completely changed the I mean he's got a chance at
the Triple Crown. Now, if I'd have told you Aaron
Judge are going to lead the leage average, what would
you have said?

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I mean, he's already paid.

Speaker 7 (48:13):
Yeah, but but but he also is a guy who
strikes out a lot. Yet he is his bat control
for a guy who's gonna hit fifty plus home runs
again this year is pretty impressive. That guy gets better
every year. Whether you like him and and I think
he's a hell of a good guy.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
I do.

Speaker 7 (48:29):
I'm a fan, and because he feels really humble to me,
I do. There's nothing about the guy I don't like.
And if you can get him out, you beat the
you beat the Yankees. And it'll be a tough task
if you if you face him, but you get him
out consistently. They because the big fellow Stanton, I just

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I just got to throw him balls away and not
give him some fastball's sitting, you know, dead red, so
he can hit it to five hundred feet. But you
get you get Judge out. You got a real chance
to beat the Yankees in a series. And I know
he's looking forward to a big postseason because for him
to validate that part of his career as well. But
it's gonna be fun. And I don't think the Yankees

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are going to be the team they'll be playing in
the ALCS.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
That's just my opinion. If they get there, I don't.

Speaker 7 (49:14):
I think Detroit's a fair I think depending on what
did the Red Sox do and how they're pitching holds.
Because I'm going to tell you what, what's his name
who came over from the White Sox, Garrett Crochet. Dude,
is friggin pitching like Sandy Kofax right now. So that
and you know what, Toronto kind of quietly just kind
of doing their thing because we always overrate them going

(49:36):
in and we didn't overrate them this year, and now
they're in first place.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Pretty interesting. There's there's some places.

Speaker 7 (49:41):
And the Astros, as long as the pitching stays healthy,
even with all the other crap going on, they will
have a legitimate chance to get where they're going. Validate
what we think about them, and that is that they's
resilient as any team in.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Sports sports period. They really are. You might not like them,
but you have to respect them.

Speaker 6 (49:58):
And as us what I tell people from the outside
that oh the Astros, I'm like, well, I mean, look,
you guys tried to pass this narrative that the only
reason they won in seventeen was for doing something, and
then they got back in twenty nineteen, then they got
back in twenty one, and then they won it in
twenty two.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Sailed dude, that's a lazy narrative. Now it's lazy.

Speaker 7 (50:17):
You beat it up, and rightfully, so okay, and you've
milked it for a couple of years. This team gets
there because this team gets it, not because of a
trash can, and they probably would have won that World
Series trash can or not anyway, So that there, it is,
old and tired.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Beat you twice in your own building too, So go
ahead and vote on that La City Council. All right.

Speaker 6 (50:39):
This has been a constant theme of conversation that we've
had here on the Shawn Salisbury Show, and it took
a really really dark turn. We'll talk about it here.
It is a Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports SOX seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
There's a lot happening and he's got a lot to
say about it. Sean Salisbury continues on seven nineteen. All Right, Sean,
what are you hearing out there now? The Salisbury's takeout?
Salisbury's takeout on.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
The Sean Salisbury Show, Sean Salisbury's Show, The Steakout. We
do it at this.

Speaker 6 (51:25):
Time every single day on the show. Strows six three winners.
Last night out in Arizona over the Diamondbacks. Texan's going
to start training camp tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Flying.

Speaker 6 (51:36):
We've talked about it numerous times and we've you know,
pretty much you know talked about, you know, the parts
of it that we don't like, and there's many, but Sean,
I mean I used to be a no you know, hey,
you know, mom, dad, we're going somewhere.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Are we flying? Are we driving?

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (51:50):
We're driving? I hate it, whereas you know, I wanted
to fly.

Speaker 8 (51:54):
Now.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
I mean, like you said, last week out in Atlanta
for SEC Media Days and for the the All Star Game,
a lot of fun, great time. But I mean, it's
everything that goes into it. Like I said, the security
and the people who are you know, crowding the front
to be able to get on the plane and they're
in group four or five, and you're just like, hey,

(52:14):
you know in front of you, so gonna get around
you and get on the flight. You know you'll you'll
get there too, trust me, you'll you'll be fine. But
then it's also we're all going to the same place.
But then it's also a lot of people have a
fear of flying. Turbulence hits you know, it gets them
a little white knuckled right there on on the the
you know, the arm rests. Yeah, and you know, so

(52:36):
you'll have that I mean, and and I mean it
is a legitimate fear that people have, but it's also
situations like what played out in North Dakota.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
I think it was over the weekend that this happened.

Speaker 6 (52:49):
And the audio is about a minute, so maybe we
don't play at all, but yeah, yeah, So this was
the pilots explaining to the passengers that they almost had
a near miss, which they did it.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
This is this is post miss. This is this is.

Speaker 6 (53:06):
Post near miss, as they say in the aviation industry,
with a military B fifty two aircraft, and listening to
just the tone of how he's explaining what just happened.

Speaker 11 (53:19):
For those of you on the right hand side, you
probably saw the airplane kind of sort of coming at us.
Nobody told us about it, and so we continued and
pair of traffic and there's no radar here, so there.

Speaker 12 (53:30):
The tower is controlled all right, excuse me. The tower
does everything visually. And so they said report.

Speaker 11 (53:35):
About a six mile You're six miles from the airport.
So we did that, and I think he realized that
the spacing wasn't gonna.

Speaker 12 (53:43):
Work, and he said turn right.

Speaker 11 (53:46):
And I looked over and there as an airplane where
supposed to you on the right hand side.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
I thought it was the one a small.

Speaker 12 (53:51):
Airplane like the one you see at the airport right now,
do it touch and goes and he said turned Ryan,
I said, there's an airplane over there, and he says,
current left And then by a time we right back
and clear and slipped over and saw the airplane that
was kind of.

Speaker 11 (54:08):
Coming on in inversion course with us, and so give
it his speed.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
It was the military. I haven't a lot faster home
when they were a lot faster, and I help him.
It was the safest him to do to turn behind it.

Speaker 11 (54:18):
So sorry about the digressive maneuver and coffee by surprises
and not.

Speaker 13 (54:22):
It's not normal at all.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
I mean that's almost like as soon as you get
on the plane, after the flight attendants talk to you
and then the captain will come on just for a second.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Hey, you know yourself some rest.

Speaker 6 (54:33):
Yeah, yeah, we're looking at about an hour forty five
to wherever we're going, so you know.

Speaker 7 (54:38):
Just painter sailing your head. Whether it should be a
very smooth huh uh. We'll turn off the the passenger
seat belt sign you know, where you can get up
and go to the rest of them enjoy. So, but
if you're sitting there, just make sure you're you got
it in And he was sounded bored. But that's how
I want my pilot to sound, like, Oh, that got this.
It didn't even look like a beat of sweat bothered

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him now, like like that there was no beat a
sweat was like, well, no big deal, we got this now.
If you're if you, if you're I would imagine the
passengers are back there tripping. Yeah, but that calming effect,
that's how I would like my pilot to be calm,
like we got this. But where I'm lost at is
in that part of the country, they are visual, what what.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Do they have?

Speaker 6 (55:22):
Like Yeah, hey, I think that B fifty two is
going to be right over here. Like it's it's almost
like he goes a little faster than you. Yeah, so
make that maneuver. Oh you can't go right, just go left. Yeah,
not a big deal. Anyway, he describes like, oh, okay,
this is just a simple move, like like you're oh,
don't go to gate eleven.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
We're moving you to gate twelve.

Speaker 7 (55:42):
So just just going and gate twelve and uh and
we'll because that plane's already left and it's open for
you guys to move and get the passes.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Off as if it was that casual. So I but
I don't know, man.

Speaker 7 (55:53):
I guess doctor witzt would be great in Dakota too,
because if you're visual, Hey, man, I could see you're
about ten miles out. How like my depth perception a
little off? Is that plane next to you, that B
fifty two, that's rolling a little faster than you are?
Let me look to my right. Yeah, they're right there.
I thought he was gonna say when he said, oh,
there's a plane to my right, mm hmm, that the

(56:14):
guy at their traffic control guys can say, just dive underneath. Yeah,
you'll be fine. He's he's keeping his levels. I can
see him from here. He's not going where he's gonna
just just dive underneath it and and just come out
the other side and we'll level you up and then
you can land. And that's uh, that's put it this way.
That's a comforting feeling to know that the pilot's that
good and that dialed into what he's doing and calm amen.

Speaker 6 (56:35):
Well, it's like me and you were talking about, you
know before the segment off air is Captain Sully Sullenberger
and the the you know audio that came out of
the cockpit from that where they were like, hey, you
could go to Teeterborough and he's just calmly like, now
we can't.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Which is the private airport? Yeah right?

Speaker 6 (56:53):
And then yeah right there in Jersey and then you
know they're like, all right, well, you know, if you
make it back, you know, runway five A. He is
is clear, He's like, now we're going into the Hudson.
But he just said it like almost like yeah, well
we'll land on five A. He just goes, now we're
going into the Hudson like it was It was nothing
to him. It was just seriously a hey, I'm gonna
somehow keep my head about me. And he lands, the

(57:15):
plane gets everybody off.

Speaker 7 (57:17):
You know when my guy in Major League Dennis Haysburt, Yeah, no, no,
the the but the yeah, when he hits the home
run like Lake and he's going around the bases and like,
I got big big stones, Yeah, big balls that Sully
is packing about two fifteen pound shot puts dude to
do that.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
I was like, oh, I got this, he's got.

Speaker 7 (57:39):
You ain't lying and they and they have no handles
on them, Okay, I'm talking about they're dangling down to
it's like, dude, you got and then just boom, get
him off, and then make sure everybody's there before he
lets himself off. You want to talk about I've been
doing this while I got this. The water, the hard ground, well,
well it'll pavement the water equally is I'll land this thing.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
We'll be fine, I'll damned. And he did, Yes, he did.

Speaker 6 (58:01):
And he walked up and down the aisles to make
sure everybody's off the plane, and they got them off.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
It's all good.

Speaker 6 (58:06):
The closest I've ever had is is we were making
the descent when I lived in Atlanta, and the pilot afterwards,
because felt it really quickly, like you know, jerk back
half of a couple of times and you know, keep going,
and that's what he said. He goes, He goes, yeah,
we were supposed to make the approach and then one
of the planes went when they weren't supposed to go.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
He's like, you know, like.

Speaker 6 (58:28):
Any I mean, and he's explaining it where he just
like basically happens all the time.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
It's all good.

Speaker 6 (58:32):
We're just gonna make another return and then you know,
well we'll land, get you guys off the plane.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
It's all good.

Speaker 6 (58:37):
And I think he even at the time when it
when it happened, he just goes, you know somebody, you know,
when they weren't supposed to go, which doesn't sit right
with me. And it's just like, well, appreciate you avoiding
a collision.

Speaker 7 (58:48):
Yeah, thank you, they said, right me. I'll make sure
I let him know and we'll but you guys are
here safe and good and go.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (58:53):
Can you imagine landing a plane in the Hudson River
and the biggest complaint from anybody is the water's cold. Yeah, yeah,
good on some good on that pilot. I don't know
his name, the one that over the weekend, but good
on him to keep things under control and to make
you feel good with his voice box not panicking.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
But I mean it's the same with doctors too, Like
I feel like doctors surgeons more surgeons that surgeons and pilots.
It's the same way. Like I remember my grandfather had
surgery a few years ago. My mom goes, yeah, the
doctor's not the warmest. And I think about it as
they get older, and I'm like, I don't need my
surgeon to be the warmest. I need them just to
or she just to, Hey, we were repaired it, they're

(59:33):
gonna be okay, well, they're gonna be fun.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Oh it works for me, notionless.

Speaker 7 (59:37):
I've had about twelve surgeries and they come in they've
got to smile. I mean, they're not the ones that
are going through the rehabit they've seen enough times. Oh
it's good, you're good to go. Let them get back
at It's like it's just ho hum because they oh, yeah,
how many do you do today?

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Fourteen?

Speaker 7 (59:50):
Yeah, okay, cool, as long as mine was done right too,
and we'll get back at it. But yeah, but you
gotta love them because whatever it is that DNA that
teaches them to be calm, you know, while they've got
you opened up in your knee or your shoulder, it's like,
oh yeah, let me fix this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Move this here to the right, Hey, hand me this.
Boom boom boom.

Speaker 7 (01:00:06):
How long was I at all? It was a two
hour surgery, felt like eight minutes. Well that's okay, we've
got it done. You're good to go, and I'll come
back and see you tomorrow morning.

Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
See, I'm the complete opposite behind the wheel in the car,
you know, driving on forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Come on, let's go. What are you doing Yeah, I
mean in so many other words.

Speaker 7 (01:00:27):
I just do it. Yeah, well sit here, boom boom. Yeah,
I'm with you too. Sometimes. One of my biggest frustrations
is life is is road driving, and some people are
afraid of their own shadow. Now when they're driving, you
can change lanes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Okay, you can change lanes.

Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
I would also say that it's advised that if you
are driving on say the North Freeway, maybe stay off
your phone and not drive forty five miles an hour
in the middle lane blocking up everybody. And then I
got people zooming in both lanes either side of me
right here, so I can't go right, I can't go left,
stuck behind.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
You, but you're oblivious.

Speaker 7 (01:01:02):
Have you ever noticed that people that are going the
speed limit are under inevitably inevitably unless it's somebody that's
ninety And I don't mean that disrespectful, that their their
their phones in one of their hands and they're in
the fast line and they're oblivious that there's forty seven
cars behind you and you're going sixty.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Yeah. Yeah, there's a few things in life that chap
my ass. That's one of them.

Speaker 6 (01:01:26):
Well, I had somebody one morning on my way in
hazards going fifty five in the far.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Left because it was sprinkling out.

Speaker 6 (01:01:32):
Well, I mean might have been, but I mean it
was just like I was like, okay, look, if you're
going to do the hazards thing, then you need to
get all the way over to the right.

Speaker 7 (01:01:40):
Is that the very essence of hazard lights. You get
your ass to the to the right so you can
get on the shoulder if necessary, just to let people
know that you're there. Yeah, not in the fast lined
shoulder the other way. Get off the thing right, you
know it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Just or.

Speaker 7 (01:01:55):
Take the frontage road, pull over and find out what's
going on. Don't be driving into fast line with your
has on because I've got four sprinkles.

Speaker 6 (01:02:01):
The fight portion of fight or flight kicks in there.
Oh yeah, yeah, I see red sometimes, oh easily. I
mean there's times that don't come against it, don't don't
you at times?

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Have? In truth? Isn't there kind of a road rage
inside you?

Speaker 7 (01:02:14):
No, it exists. I gotta fight it. Oh oh yeah,
it's on my forearm. I trust me. I'm with you.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
One hundred flies out and then every single once in
a while I try to try to reel it back in,
to try to make sure that you know, not too.

Speaker 7 (01:02:25):
Much traffic and double bogies back to back. Yes, there's
my sad. Yeah, I'm like the volcano. It's like, Sean,
are you gonna erupt? Yeah, get to the T box
and shut your mouth right there.

Speaker 6 (01:02:37):
I'm at about two eleven right now, and you keep
it going. I'm gonna get to two twelve. That's exactly
you know what happens once they hit two twelve, No doubt,
it's not good for anybody. Good on that pilot's and
good on the pilots out there that keep us safe.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
All right, coming up.

Speaker 6 (01:02:52):
The saga of Jerry Well, it just continues. This guy
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Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
MICHAEH.

Speaker 6 (01:04:49):
Parsons, a guy that still doesn't have a long term
deal with the team. You've already got the quarterback locked up,
you got the receiver seed he lamb locked up. But
Micah Parsons one of the best edge rushers in the game,
or at least pass rushers because they do move him
around a little bit. But still a guy that is
known to get after the quarterback. In Jerry being the
face and voice of the Cowboys organization, he's the owner,

(01:05:11):
he's the GM, he's all of those different things. So
of course he's up the podium. Him Stephen Jones, his son,
and also Brian Schottenheimer, the new head coach, which that's
comedic enough. And it was a question asked to Jerry
Jones about Micah Parsons. And let's just say Jerry has
not been able to help himself for years and he
definitely couldn't help himself right here.

Speaker 10 (01:05:34):
Just because we signed him doesn't mean we're going to
have him. He was hurt six games last year. Seriously,
We've signed a remember signing a player for the highest
paid at the position in the league, and he got
knocked down two thirds of the year Dark Prescott. So
there's a lot of things you can think about when
you and just as the player does when you're thinking

(01:05:56):
about committing and guaranteeing money.

Speaker 6 (01:05:59):
I'm sorry, I can't hear him now without thinking of
that scene in Land Man. Yeah, like every time he
talks actually a good actor, he really was. I mean
I played himself. Yeah. I just feel like he's talking
to John Hammond, to also Billy Bob Norton, and to you,
young man, you're no spring chicken right now?

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Do the math?

Speaker 7 (01:06:14):
Neither one of those are fact. By the way, both
missed less games than Jerry was talking about. I think
it was Parsons missed what four instead of six? So
he's in just as long as you're in the range.
Yet he's the guy who's gonna who's win the season starts.
The highest paid player in the history of football is
his quarterback, and the highest paid non quarterback in the

(01:06:37):
history of football will be Michael Parsons. Both on your roster.
Ceedee Lamb's up there in the receiver area as well.
He's not chasing Jefferson, but he's getting paid. And of
all that, instead of celebrating ready for a season, you
want to take your two you're supposed to be your
two best players. And I'm not saying that you need
to kiss their ass, but odd that you're basically saying, well,

(01:07:00):
going to get hurt. So I'm going to hold that
against him. So I'm Parsons will be out to a
third of the season and Prescott will miss a third
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
So I got to take that into account. I mean,
are you kidding me?

Speaker 7 (01:07:11):
Listen at no time and I put this on Twitter
essay and I and there may be some that try
to argue go ahead at no time In the last
I don't know, twenty years and longer, I can only
think of a handful of times where a team when
your owner is the spokesperson, the face and the voice
of your franchise, where he's in the in the just

(01:07:33):
outside the locker room on game. But it's not a quarterback,
or it's not your defensive player, it's not your head coach.
It's the owner is the face and the and the
voice of the franchise. And I can tell you this,
those guys don't people who have the owner is the
where the owner thinks he's got to be the voice
in the face of the franchise, which very few do.
They're not winning championships. Well, Sewan, what about Mark Cuban.

(01:07:53):
I was in Dallas Mark Cuban's team, the one that
was Dirk Novsky's franchise. Cuban was allowdest on technical fouls
and getting in and getting fined by the league and
all that. But when it came to who was the
face of the franchise, it wasn't Mark Cuban. Heh he
had the money and all that, but it was Dirk Novitsky,
Make no mistake about it. Al Davis, you could argue,
but John Madden was the face and the face and
the voice of the franchise. Was the fact that the

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Ray Kenny Stable. They were rebels. That's how they lived
at it. But Al Davis, I understand in the off
season owners meetings, and then George Steinbrenner. But the last
time George Steinbrenner won a championship he was two thousand
and nine. He passed away in twenty ten. At that
point in time, Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera right, both on
that team.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
But am I right?

Speaker 7 (01:08:34):
Yeah, both on that team among others. The Steinbrenner wor
call him the voice and face of the franchise from past.
In two thousand and nine, he was more limited on
his day to day. He was turning it over to
his son and cashman and the rest. So and he
wasn't in two thousand and nine. He wasn't the voice
of the face of that franchise. Name me one that's

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won a championship where the owners the face and the voice.
If I walk thirty two owners into this room, or
into this building, or into any a school, a business,
anywhere in the country, in any city the majority outside
that city, you'd know what cal McNair looks like. Here,
I'm telling you right now. If cal McNair walked into
Pittsburgh right now, an average fan, well, I don't know

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what what's he doing?

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Hey, here's that guy that kept that youth leader employed.

Speaker 7 (01:09:19):
Right do you think you you think if the if
the Pagoulas or Steve Bashatti, the owner of the Ravens,
walked walked into a into Starbucks while they're asking for
twenty five dollars an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
But that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 7 (01:09:29):
But whether people that the workers serve the coffee or
go to Dunkin Donuts anyhow, is if he walked in there,
they'd have no idea who he is. Yeah, he walked
in here, he'd go in and nobody would even say, hey,
mister Bashott. No, And unless you're the McNair fan, know
who the owner is?

Speaker 6 (01:09:44):
Is that a mob that's right, because he's Baltimore, really
the slick back.

Speaker 7 (01:09:48):
He's dressed like he looks the part, right he does.
But you start to go up and down. Nobody, Well,
Robert krav No, he wasn't. Belichick and Brady were the
facing voice of that fan. The voice was always Belichick
because he didn't even let his assistant talk. But point is,
if your owner is the face and the voice of
your franchise, your franchise has a problem. He should never
the roonies, the Kansas City Chiefs. Clark Hunt walks in here.

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You may know him because you've seen him a little
more in the press box and because Taylor Swift has
been because.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Of the trophy and all that.

Speaker 7 (01:10:16):
Yeah, Clark Hunt walks into North Dakota or Sacramento, California.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
You know how many people know him?

Speaker 7 (01:10:23):
About three and they're all either affiliated with their former sports,
they've been in an organization.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
They know who he is.

Speaker 7 (01:10:29):
So that can't be an unfortunate for Jerry. Well, he
was the evasive face and voice when when the last
one of Super Bowl in the mid ninety No, he wouldn't.
Dare I tell you about Aikman and Smith and Irvin
and Darren Woodson and that whole friggin group. Jimmy Johnson
the face and the voice had. Jerry only became the
face and the voice when when Jimmy left and he

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had to scramble around and think that he had to
be the loudest voice of Jerry's a brilliant marketer, but
the Cowboys as long as Jerry's the GM handing out
gatorade sign and pay checks, the face and the voice
of the franchise and then acting like this as the
face and the voice of the franchise. They're not winning
a super Bowl, period, It's already been since the mid nineties.
You ain't sniffing it now either. Plus you're going into

(01:11:12):
training camp thinking I'm gonna use this as a negotiating play.
I'm only getting you guys for two thirds of the season,
so I'm gonna pay you like it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
I just don't get it.

Speaker 7 (01:11:20):
The voice and face your franchise absolutely cannot be rafel
Stone here, and he's not and he knows it, and
that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
He gets it. It can't be.

Speaker 7 (01:11:31):
It can't be the It can't be Tilman Furtita, although
face and voice of big business. Even then, Tilman Fertita,
if you don't know him the business side.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
You're not gonna waltz in. He's not gonna.

Speaker 7 (01:11:42):
Waltz into Minneapolis here and say, oh, that's Tillman Furtita.
Unless you're a business person that runs in those circles, right,
You're not gonna know who he is. So it's got
to be somebody different, and Jerry won't let it happen.
And this, again is a guy who doesn't recognize the
he recognizes the marketing he doesn't get. And then all
said and done, you know what he's gonna He's gonna

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pay Michael Parsons more than TJ. Watt because you know
what else, he loves the eagle of saying he's doing it.
And then he can shift the onus back to the
player and say, well, I'm paying all these guys all
the ceede Lamb one of the highest paid receivers. I
got offensive and defensive player, the highest paid at their
position ever. Heller's Jerry's don't dude, he's dumb like a fox.

(01:12:23):
Don't kid yourself. But he doesn't get the pr part
that these athletes are fragile. Michael Parsons is gonna be
bothered by this. He might not show up, but he
will be bothered by this. Now he'll play like a
man with his hair on fire this year. Or he'll
be pissed and say, I'm not signing a long term deal.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
I want out. You just you just don't.

Speaker 7 (01:12:42):
It's not ass kissing. But it also don't bury the
lead before the season starts. It's just it's weird to me.
But at no point in time should the voice in
the face of your franchise, be your owner. If he is,
you got it all wrong. And that's the problem with
the Cowboys, at least one of them, and Jerry's making
all the football decisions, which is problem too.

Speaker 6 (01:13:00):
Well, there's more also on this plate, because he did
throw some more strays, and we will share those with
you here as we continue on a Tuesday Sean Salisbury
Show Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Sal that's beautiful.

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
Well, then you absolutely love Jerry Jones because well, he's
the gift that just keeps on giving. I mean, you know,
you see it all the time with his postgame press conferences.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
You hear it too.

Speaker 6 (01:13:29):
If with his weekly visit with one of the local
Dallas stations up there where I mean, if it's not
him threatening the hosts or just you know, going just
completely the way that Jerry goes, well, then you know
that's kind of another part of the storyline that has
been Jerry Jones for the better part of his ownership
tenure there in Dallas. But we played the audio in

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the last segment of him talking about Micah Parsons and
Dak Prescott of his point with Parsons was, Oh, well
would we pay him when you know he's gonna miss
a handful of games anyway? So I mean, if that's
really your negotiating tactic, well then I would say probably
you're not going to have the guy around for very
much longer. But he wasn't the only one that caught

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astray or he and Dak Prescott catching strays yesterday. It
was also Trevon Diggs and Terrence Steele a couple of
others who did, and Jerry going down that route but
then quickly having his son Steven step in to try
to salvage as much the comment as he could.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Frankly, should we have waited on digs and steal? Oh?
You brought them up? I did. The other thing is
the willingness. I mean you have players who are you know,
who decide.

Speaker 14 (01:14:50):
Hey, I'm willing to wait and I'm gonna wait on
bigger numbers, and then you got other players who want
to be more conservative and say, hey, I'd like to
have my money now. And that's every person's different.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Every player is different.

Speaker 6 (01:15:06):
So there is Steven almost kind of like, Dad, Hey,
you know what, I got this for a second. But
it's just something that's as simple as what the Cowboys
have been for the better part of over thirty years now,
and that is Jerry Jones and Steven Jones, just the
Jones family. Now, let's call what it is. They're drug dealers.

(01:15:27):
They're drug dealers. In knowing that and hear me out
on this. Hear me out. I know that usually when
people say hear them out, you don't want to do that.
But Cowboy fans are not going anywhere people who watch
them either, who want to see them fail and just
derive a ton of happiness from seeing the Cowboys fall
flat on their face because there is a lot of

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hate watching when.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
It comes to that team.

Speaker 6 (01:15:50):
But there is also two of people who I mean,
they're constantly hanging on to hope of Hey, I'm going
to continue to take this drug and one day my
life is going to get better because.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Even though I'm not changing anything else in my life,
this will one way or another payoff.

Speaker 6 (01:16:06):
Trust me, the investment will be there. And it's the
same thing every single year. I tell people all the
time that it's a cyclical calendar. Every single year is
for the Cowboys. They'll get a huge win at the
beginning of the season, then they'll have a loss, probably
about three o'clock on the clock right there, where you're
just kind of like, man, that's a really bad loss.
I have no idea how the hell you guys lost
to the Jets up in Jersey, but whatever you do

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you and then at about six o'clock you'll get two
or three wins in a row and you're thinking, oh, hey,
here come the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Watch out for those guys.

Speaker 6 (01:16:37):
And then at about nine o'clock that's when you get
a Sunday night where they take on the Eagles or
somebody like that, and they just absolutely blow doors off
that team and beat the hell out of them in
a mid to late December Sunday night football game, and
you're thinking to yourself, well, maybe the Cowboys are actually
starting to put this thing together. Then they go up
to Washington at eleven o'clock and they lose to the Commanders, who,

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now they're a little bit better than what they have been,
but at least for a good amount of the last
few years, they've not been very good. And then they
go into the playoffs and then they face the Packers
of the forty nine ers and they lose.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
It's a tail as old as time.

Speaker 6 (01:17:11):
But it seriously is the same thing every single year,
and I mean it is every bit of what the
symptoms of addiction are. Because when somebody is addicted to
something and you're trying to tell them, hey, stop doing
this in your life, they're the ones who are gonna
fight you the most because they think that you're trying
to take away their happiness, Whereas you're the one who's

(01:17:31):
trying to say no, I'm trying to show you what
actual happiness is and what you're doing is not making
you happy. Trust me, it's not. I see it on
a daily basis. That's why I'm intervening right now. I'm
not saying you have to intervene your friend's family anybody
else that are Cowboy fans. But it is also to
another side of all of this is it cracks me
up with people, Oh, bandwagon, cowboy fans, bandwagon for what,

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you haven't won anything in thirty years. You continuously have
this same thing happened year in and year out. And
if you consider that to be being on a bandwagon,
then I want to know what the hell bandwagon is
out there that actually is worth being on, Like being
an Astros fan. Okay, I can actually live with some
people saying that about the Astros, because I remind people

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all the time, being an Astros fan right now is
not being an Astros fan. I remember, not even in
half empty Astronome. I remember the playoff losses. I remember
years of not even getting to the playoffs, or even
just the absolute baseball Siberia that this town saw before
they even got back to winning world titles. So yeah,

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you can understand if some people weren't necessarily Astros fans
or paying as close attention before, then maybe you can
throw that at them. But just for Cowboy fans, I mean,
it's just another example of this. This ish just doesn't change,
it doesn't. It's the same thing every single year. There's
always some sort of marketing play here. There's always some

(01:18:57):
sort of hey, get people talking about our team again,
the marketing play. But it's just, I mean, going after
your own players like this is just a tactic that
I just cannot understand. And you wonder again why it
continues to play out the same way it does every
single year for the Cowboys, and mark my words, it's
going to play out the exact same way again this year.

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And when you hire a coach like Brian Schottenheimer, who
again I've thrown it out numerous times. Nothing against him
and nothing against the accomplishments that his dad did, but
for as much nepotism as we see in the NFL,
don't you think that he would have tripped into being
a NFL head coach many times before he finally got
this opportunity. Now, Jerry wants us to continue to be
his team, and to Shawn's point, as long as he

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continues to be that way, you're going to continue to
see the same results play out time in and timeout,
and that is exactly what happens in DFW every single year.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
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Speaker 6 (01:22:02):
Tro's sixty three winners last night in Arizona against the Diamondbacks.
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Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
They have already started and gonna.

Speaker 6 (01:22:19):
Get into a little bit more astros here in our
number three. But I know that some of you went
away in on what we were just talking about with
the Cowboys, and you know Jerry as we played the
audio of him earlier, Sean talking about, you know, kind
of the case against why to you know, make Micah Parsons,

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you know, the highest paid non quarterback in the league,
and you know, saying, oh, well, you know he got
hurt so many games last year, just like our quarterback.
You know, we upped him all this money. Then he
goes out and gets hurt and misses two thirds of
the season. Then he continued to where he was asked about, Okay,
well then why do you pay certain guys like Terrence
Steele and Trayvon Diggs and then you don't pay other

(01:23:01):
guys And he was like, well, you can make the
argument we should have waited on them, right, And that's
when Steven then jumped in and was just like, hey,
it's a case by case basis. You know, some guys
want to take the money, sometives that protected the old percent.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
What that was?

Speaker 6 (01:23:14):
I said it in the last segment, I said, I
said that is that is Dad?

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Dad? I got this.

Speaker 7 (01:23:19):
Oh yeah, don't overload your mouth with your ass anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Is what that says.

Speaker 7 (01:23:23):
And interesting thing too, is uh, as my buddy James
McDonough pointed out to me on Twitter, and it's a
good point I thought about. This is all of a sudden,
is uh is uh? Michael Parson is going to show
up and pay us with yelis T shirt and in
the building. Now he has an argument there, buddy, Yeah,
well it's good. I mean we even saw it here

(01:23:44):
years ago. Remember Dante Robinson writing on the shoes pay
me Rick? Where you had that for for Rick Smith?
Always a wise thing to do is negotiate and when
you when you don't have a now Parsons made but
for people who don't have a should I say, bargaining chip, right,
bargaining chip. It's like if your company's valuations two hundred

(01:24:09):
million and you asked for four billion, he probably overestimated
your your your presence right. And while Parsons could wear
the shirt and it'd be a lot of argument, I
think that sometimes those arguments can be misplaced.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
When you look at ROI.

Speaker 7 (01:24:23):
In certain situations, Parsons has given you Roy when he's
on the field, which is most of the time.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Well, I mean most of us in business, we don't
have an agent to be able to advocate for us
and to be able to have those conversations and get
the most out of it. But like I mean, I've
had the conversation with people, You've had the conversation. Always
love that of people, Oh I deserve this, I deserve that?
What have you done to deserve it? And then uh,
it's like, well, you're telling me you deserve it. And

(01:24:49):
if you're gonna go into the room and say that, well,
then guess what you're gonna get eaten? The line is
what do Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 7 (01:24:55):
What does Nick Saban always talk about, you know, when
the transfer portal kicked in and when he was coach
in and a player's bitching and his parents about wanting
to start and play in the spring practice and coming
in the fall and getting a chance. It's very simple.
What what value bring to the organization, to the to
the program right now. That doesn't mean everybody doesn't bring value,

(01:25:16):
but nix case zation right, does your value.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Match?

Speaker 7 (01:25:21):
Does the value you bring exceed the r o I
on you, whether it's the scholarship money, whether it's the
w n b A revenue and profits, whether it's Mark
Michaeh Parsons and how the company and your view of
yourself may be far different than their view of you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Right, we see it at the hometown ballpark here in baseball.

Speaker 6 (01:25:46):
Oh man, you've got to sign Carlos Korea, Jim Crane saying,
oh I do, oh man, We've we've got to re
up Kyle Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 7 (01:25:53):
Hold this tall boy, yeah, hold this tall boy beer
for a second. And then he keeps getting validated because
they keep winning without him. So you may not like it,
but you can't argue with his business model when it
comes to the history. Says that it's worked for him
and it's a great thing. Good on him, and how

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he runs all his businesses is pretty smart and that's
how mister Crane does it. But yeah, the value bring
Michael Parsons says a legitimate gripe. Now, do you want
to make him blow him by TJ. Watt just because
well he's next in line, or is it because his
ROI to the team and his value to the team
says we have to make him the highest paid player.

(01:26:34):
We all of a sudden think that good player. Oh
he's good too, so he's definitely got to jump in unfortunately,
or Fortunately, depending on what side you sit on, that's
usually the case because the next big contract may not
be in football at quarterback, the best quarterback in the league.
Matter of fact, there are some who don't have Dak
Prescott in the top ten. And guess what, He's the
highest paid yearly average we've ever had in this league.

(01:26:56):
And we are probably eighteen months to two years away
by the time you and I are sitting here in
twenty twenty seven, at this time, there will be a
seventy five million dollars a year quarterback. That's exactly right,
and it's going and I might be borrowing too much time.
It might be in less time than that. So it's
the same. So Parsons, but Jerry, just for a guy

(01:27:17):
who's so smart, and he really is who gets who
understands business.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
He uh.

Speaker 7 (01:27:22):
And there's a part of me that says, you cool, bastard.
You make sure you keep them humble and keep them
in their place. And there's a part of me that says, dude,
that ring that you want again. Your grandkids are now
having kids, since you've got one, maybe, just maybe you
may want to shift your paradigms on how you approach

(01:27:43):
your franchise and remove yourself from be part of the
day to day operations, but remove yourself from that. Jerry's
problem is pride an ego. He can't help him. Do
you think he can't he can't help himself. Well, there's hubris,
and there's also I mean, there's there's the family after

(01:28:03):
family after family member involved in the Organs, And I
get it a lot of people like to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Now. I wanted to work with my kids. There you go,
and what dad and mom don't? He said? He said
it in Land man, Yeah, I bought the Cowboys so
I could work with my kids. And as true as
it could be, as true as it could be.

Speaker 7 (01:28:19):
So I just ROI matters and we joke about you know,
pay And I've always asked this, pay us what you
owe us? Does that mean that four years ago you
owed us? But now that we've playing a little better,
and this Caitlin Clark's brought some attention. Now we're seeing
good players and stuff. What I owe you or I mean,
what you're now worth. There's a big difference, and hey,

(01:28:42):
can we get paid what we're worth? Seems like a
better sign to send or to you know, to paint
then pay us what she does.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
I don't know you a friggin thing.

Speaker 7 (01:28:50):
I signed you to a contract and hopefully they're going
to get in a pay raise and so when they should,
they do. There's been an enhancement in the business people
they're trying to expand it doesn't seem like a sound
investment because people are losing money. But and it's a
good point if you if you're invested in a stock
and for three years the stock doesn't go well, then
all of a sudden, you know that it's going to

(01:29:11):
jump and it exceeds what you got it for and
you made money off the stock just because you struggled
the first three years, but you stayed patient and made money.
That's kind of like this right this this league has
not made money ever. Well, I'm not holding you know,
Caitlin Clark responsible for Cheryl Miller's w NBA, Although if
Cheryl Miller was playing this, we'd understand why they get

(01:29:33):
paid because she's still the best female basketball player I
ever saw in my life. And I got seen up
close and had to cover her in the gym, and
that wasn't funn either, because you're like, do I be
physical with it? While she's stolen elbows to your ribk Like, okay,
Cheryl and I love her right, Cynthia Cooper, that group
and the McGee twins, So I get it. But over
the years, you know, things happening. They're gonna get a
pay raise. But the questions when you say, pay us
what you owe us, what does that mean? It they

(01:29:55):
steal money from you. You're you're just getting started. And
now the investmin in this league for some may three
or four years down the row to five years, pay
off with your valuation changes. But pay us what you
ask or pay us what we're worth. Big difference.

Speaker 6 (01:30:10):
Well, it's it's it's the whole fair share thing. It's like, okay,
what's a fair share? What's a fair share to me
as opposed to somebody else. This isn't a blanket scenario here, man,
Like you know, my fair share as opposed to a
billionaire out there, what's gonna hurt me a lot more
than it's gonna hurt them.

Speaker 7 (01:30:26):
And you've got to you've got to recognize the whole scene.
You got to see the whole your whole deck on
the investment deck.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:30:37):
We know there's good players in the league and if
you didn't you do now? I mean, we've got some
hellified players plane WNBA.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
We do some great players.

Speaker 7 (01:30:49):
But the main reason, not the only reason, but the
main reason and the biggest reason in WNBA history and
now did more eyes and ears and optics are on
this sport and more investment money and more people wanting
to buy in, and more TV rights and more game
changing is because Caitlin Clark. It just is now that

(01:31:10):
she's there. Hell, she's a little bit of a whiner
at time. Now we're seeing other players, but you got
to have something youth golfers, Tiger Woods, inner city golfers,
that people just it's expensive sport. He's opened up this
this avenue. Now we're finally Damn. I would have loved
to see Michael Jordan play golf when he was eight,
when you could have when when you you know, who

(01:31:31):
could afford it and what kind of beach volleyball player
golfer Michael Jordan would have been with that athleticism had
do you committed to a golf at an early age
like he did?

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
Hoops?

Speaker 7 (01:31:40):
Right, So what Tiger Woods has done is bring damn
that kid from Brooklyn, you know whatever, go that youth golfer.
That's an eight hits it three hundred. Damn okay. But
they've just opened it up to a world of possibilities.
And that's what Clark's done here.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Whether you like it or.

Speaker 7 (01:31:56):
Not, the fact of the matter is she's your cash cow.
Now go capize on it instead of kicking the teeth.
That doesn't mean you can't be physical with her on
the court, But like like I said with Kelsey Plumb,
well why are you. I mean, that's like somebody handing
you the powerball ticket and you ripping it up in
front of her face and saying I didn't want the
money anyway. You don't have to give her all the credit,

(01:32:16):
but damn let her open up floodgates where you're getting Listen,
why Sophie Cunningham because she's attractive, or she's doing national
commercials now and she's not the star of the team.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Why it's been opened up?

Speaker 7 (01:32:28):
Brothers, you see angel all these things that are happening,
But don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
Capitalize on it.

Speaker 7 (01:32:34):
And when all is said and done, right your books say,
well there's better players than Kay. Whatever you want to do,
But right now, I just don't get it. So what
you're worth now is far different when you were three
years ago. And we know the common denominator doesn't mean
she's the best player. A lot of times the best
player is not the best market she's your marketing. People
pay huge money to have somebody market like this for you.

(01:32:56):
If you're in your career and she's sitting there right
in your and she's on your doorstep, and matter of fact,
she's kicked it open for you. Don't stick her out
in the doghouse in the backyard whether you like it
or not. Man, matter of fact, tell everybody how great
she has wanted some more people. Oh yeah, they're starting
to recognize it. What's the what's the what do you
get from them? Most of times good basketball players, man,

(01:33:16):
they don't get it. They they continually self inflict problems.
When you got doesn't mean you have to recognize she's
a Hall of fame basketball player. She's not there yet,
but she's a hall of fame when it comes to
hall of fame of getting eyes and ears and marketing
a whiz without actually asking for it. She's brought eyes,
so capitalize on it. Look what golf's doing with the

(01:33:38):
Tiger and Scheffler's never going to have the same impact
the Tiger lebron That's exactly right, Judges show, that's right.
You're never gonna have the same impact maybe as the
first guy, but like Woods, Scheffler and he doesn't go
about it that he wants to be home family. Tiger's
out there doing and that's okay, different impact. So here
it's like, can you imagine if all of a sudden
the narrative of the WNBA shifted and they started, Yeah,

(01:34:00):
we recognize what she brings to this league, good player,
and you know she's open doors for the rest of us.
That's not kissing ass or saying we're not good. Basically,
what I would say is you finally now see what
we've been trying to tell you for ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
There's good players here now.

Speaker 7 (01:34:15):
Whether you think they're marketable or not, or the way
they go about their torking business at an All Star
Games up to you. But for some there is Our
national commercials wouldn't be doing it. So if you just
recognize that, watch how the narrative would shift on Oh,
they finally get it, because right now it seems like
the most jealous caddy league on the planet and they
need all the help they can get to market it,

(01:34:36):
just like startups do. You should treat it like a
startup because in truth, it's a restart, that's what it is.
And if you're not treating it like a startup, guess
what happens with startups. Don't get attention paid to them,
and you don't get people reading your deck, it go
broke and it never gets off the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
Oh but it was the people who didn't get it.
That's what losers say. Oh yeah, yeah, well it's the eye.
Confess he did it.

Speaker 7 (01:34:57):
You'll take it when it's good, but when it's bad,
it's always somebody else's fat.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
This league could do.

Speaker 7 (01:35:01):
There's another level to it, and it's going to be
in house for them to recognize what's going to take
to new level. I don't watch it on a regular basis,
but those who do. And but one thing I do recognize,
I listen. If you're good at your career, no matter
what it is, I can pay respect. And there's some
damn good players. But if they want more eyes, you've
got to take the cash cow and put her on

(01:35:22):
your shoulders and walk her through it with you.

Speaker 6 (01:35:24):
Nobody wants to be a buzzkill, and nobody wants to
be around a buzzkill. Nobody wants to be around a hater.
I mean, that's just that's pretty much what it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
Is to do.

Speaker 7 (01:35:31):
But the problem is those ones that do, then I
want to take very fast people. They're right, they're basking
in the same problem. They love feasting off other problems.
It's like they excel when there's crap, right, and I
don't want to wait in the crap with the pigs.

Speaker 6 (01:35:43):
That's a miserable existence. Ray Doug Bill, see you guys
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Speaker 8 (01:36:09):
Good morning, Ray, Hi, sir. I was just wondering, well,
not wondering, why would we want cowboy fans to go
to any kind of addiction therapy. I mean, I love
cowboys losing. You're in and you're out, And then they
think that nineteen ninety five, was like yesterday, I sent
that meme to my boss yesterday, who's a Cowboy fan.

(01:36:30):
That was a VHS tape and it said Cowboys Super
Bowl Highlights. I mean, I don't want as far as
I'm concerned, Jones can hire Joe Biden to run his
his organization. I mean, I think it's great that the
Cowboys lose.

Speaker 7 (01:36:48):
You actually, ray have to know what building you're walking into.
If that's the case, So that wouldn't work. They'd be playing,
he'd be playing back in in uh some part of Dallas.
He'd think it was at a high school stadium as well.
It is, so he did. That's definitely what you don't
want if you're if you're a Cowboy.

Speaker 8 (01:37:05):
But I'm with you, brother, high school has more playoff
wins in the Cowboys stadium than the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
You know what.

Speaker 7 (01:37:12):
That's That's about a fact. That's about a fact. And uh,
what you don't want is that other guy. I mean,
the guy running the franchise right now has got enough
on his mind.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
You don't want the other guy. Okay, running that franchise.
That's for sure. Good point.

Speaker 7 (01:37:26):
But if you're a Texans fan, you don't give a
rats ask about what's going on with the Cowboys, right,
you're half crazy? Please stay in stay in charge for
all these years, Jerry.

Speaker 8 (01:37:34):
Yeah, my only wish is somebody would do that with
the Titans.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:37:40):
I have already have I had there and then you said, oh,
this isn't good enough. Yeah, let's fire him. Then let's
trap Will Levis is our quarterback that's really worked out
incredibly well.

Speaker 8 (01:37:52):
So all right, guys, you'll have a great day.

Speaker 7 (01:37:54):
All right, stuff, Hey, you know what, you know what's interesting?
Think about this? So for a second about the the
uh you just got me on a tangent before we go.
Since football season is starting right away, this division is
fairly putrid. I'm talking about the Texans Division. They should

(01:38:16):
boat race this division this year real quick, do you
think and we come back and talk about you think
about it. Danny Jones. People are pining for Daniel Jones,
who's a solid player, and the fact that he's worked
with Cutcliffe. Again, I think Daniel Jones probably gonna have
a pretty good season. But if it's Anthony Richardson, who
from me to U four feet away would miss by

(01:38:37):
eight yards, but he'll kill you with with with the
arm strength. Cam Ward, Oh, I think is gonna be
a really good player. They don't have any players and
I mean they're okay, they get but cam Ward is
going to be a good player of But right now
that ain't it. And Brian Callahan's job, I'm sure is
going to be in a little bit of danger if
they don't go yet. Cam Ward gives you some time
and I think he's gonna be really good. Guy took

(01:38:58):
you THEFC Championshi a couple of years ago. That works
out well, right in Trevor Lawrence is one day you
look at him and say, no, wonder he's the first
pick of the draft. Then two games after that you're
looking at him saying, I gotta make a change. This
guy can't play I mean throwing. You know what I'm saying.
You see both. So the inconsistency of the first pick,
because in truth is the first pick of the draft.
He is underachieved. Yet he's great talent. But that doesn't

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mean by far the best team and quarterback in this
division is right here. There's zero excuse. Defense is good,
top five best young secondary. If the offensive line's just good,
they don't have to be great, just good, best one
two punch running back in the league. When it comes
to Nick, Chubb's a starter if he's healthy, and he's healthy,
look out. I want you to tell me how anybody

(01:39:44):
in this division wins this. But the Texans, what have
they got to do? Miss a team bus? Think about it.
The quarterback divisions talent, I mean potential with cam Ward
and Richardson and Lawrence. Yes, but you look at the
quarterback division, it is by far, when it talks about production,
which you should expect from this year, by far, the

(01:40:05):
worst quarterback division in football, and we got the best
one by far on this team. How does this team
not curb stop the division? They should be battling for
home field advantage in the postseason because the look at
the other divisions, the East will be MIAI there's some
good teams we already know. The AFC North is brutal,
good defense by Cleveland, the other three teams can score,

(01:40:26):
and the AFC West. Maybe the Raiders are going to
get better with Pete Carroll. That may end up being
the best division in the AFC. Therefore, the Raiders are
far better than in my opinion, they're going to be
better than the Cleveland Browns, because that's a good division too.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
So look around the league.

Speaker 7 (01:40:43):
This team, this thing should be three weeks left in
the season and they should have it clinched because the
rest of the division, especially at key positions, is fairly
it is putrid in some places, and quite frankly, they're
going to have to have an out of body experience
to beat the texts in this division. This is it's
close to a no brainer since I've been here for

(01:41:06):
the Texans to win this division. Now we'll see how
Lawrence plays. Is cam Ward gonna play like a rookie?
You're going to play like Jayden Daniels and cj is
a rookie? Or and who are the Indianapolis Colts. Is
Daniel Jones going to be the one that got him
paid Daniel Jones? Or is Daniel Jones going to be
the one who got him run out? And then with
that injuries up and down. I'm just telling you that

(01:41:26):
this is you should be as comfortable and is excited
about a dominant division because they're better at every position
than anybody else in the league, I mean in the
division and their quarterback right now, no offense to Trevor
Lawrence he's not right now when it comes to production
on a daily basis, I don't know a guy in

(01:41:47):
the league that would take Trevor Lawrence over CJ.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
Shroud.

Speaker 7 (01:41:51):
Now, Lawrence may rear his head, but with the excuse
and he's getting paid like you should. I can tell
you right now this is by far, this should be
the easiest division in football to win.

Speaker 6 (01:42:02):
The Astros question he asked earlier, Yeah, well do with
the Texans here because I have mine?

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
Okay, and uh you you but yeah, you're right.

Speaker 7 (01:42:11):
And the question I asked earlier to Dan is in
thanks at Thanksgiving and as for our listeners, what are
you going to be saying about the Astros twenty twenty
five at Easter. I'll tell you exactly what I'll say
at Easter about the Texans.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
If it goes the way that you you said that
it's supposed to go, or if it doesn't.

Speaker 6 (01:42:28):
I especially either way good or bad. Yeah, there you go. Well,
I have that right here, Cameron Bill, see you guys
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The seven to ninety listener line in the eight o'clock
hour is presented by one eight hundred car cash Overachieved.
I mean just absolutely got the most out of this
team that they could. And I think no matter how
this season ends, that's how it's going to be said.
Now you gave a positive outcome. For the Texans, you
boat race the division, you win, I would say for

(01:44:44):
that you did enough to pass the class and that point,
because that's really at this point. It kind of reminds
me of a class I took when I was in
college where the professor said, everybody in this class, the
best you can earn as A unless you write this
twenty five page paper at the end of the semester.
Because if you write that paper, then you're in the category.

(01:45:06):
You can earn a B or you can earn an A.
In this class. You mean, do a little more than
zast but exactly that where it was. If you just
do everything that's asked of you, that's sea level work.
And for the Texans winning the division, that's sea level work. Agreed,
Because they've been able to prove that they can win
the division. They've been able to prove that they can
win on wild card weekend. They have not been able
to prove that they can win a divisional round weekend. Now,

(01:45:27):
if they don't win the division, which again I don't
see there being any possible path that that's the case.

Speaker 7 (01:45:32):
Well, the only possible path is if the guy under
center gets hurt and if we have a bunch of
defensive injuries, are the only thing that would stop this
team from being far and away the best team in
the division.

Speaker 6 (01:45:42):
Or that you didn't do enough to be able to
rid yourself of the issues that lost you football games
last year. Yeah, preset penalty, just mental mistakes, whatever it
might be, self inflicted problems, you can go. So I mean,
if that, if that persists, then it's say, all right, well,
then really, how good is the coaching here? Because we've
heard how good the coaching is. But if this is
continuing to be it, then there's a pattern. It's not

(01:46:03):
all the players, it's now on you. And if that's
the case, then you underachieved. There's no doubt D minus.
So is this a February team yet?

Speaker 10 (01:46:13):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:46:14):
Okay, Kansas City is still there, Baltimore is still there,
Buffalo's still there. No, You're you're the fourth best team
in the in the AFC right now.

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
So with that in mind, where do they end up?

Speaker 6 (01:46:27):
If you're the fourth best team, then you're probably going
on the road in the divisional round weekend and maybe
you can finally kick in the door. Shout out, but
Adams or bum Phillips. Excuse me not but Adams screwby Adams,
bum Phillips. But you kick in the door and you
finally get to an AFC championship game that happens, then
you haven't done that before. That's massive, that's massive success.

Speaker 7 (01:46:49):
This team is at the point of playoffs. Just aren't
good enough? Fair enough?

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
Yes, I would agree.

Speaker 6 (01:46:55):
You're getting to a point where, you know, the the
championship banners that go up there, you might as well
just start adding on to a championship banner at that point,
because if I'm Kal McNair or Handa mcnaer at that point,
I'm like, why are we continuing to hang these things up?
They're they're not They're not as important anymore. The Astros
have done it, all their pennants, for all their championships.
You have to look, you have to look for them

(01:47:17):
on the three hundred level, because they're tucked away behind
the field, in the in the field, because the goal right,
it's two, it's two pennants that are hanging up out there.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 6 (01:47:28):
Maybe you'll even get to a point where American League
championships you're kind of like, rah, they're nice stick them
above the school board next to the retired numbers.

Speaker 7 (01:47:35):
Well, you want what everybody with the Kansas City Chiefs have,
and you want where you just know that we'll see
you in late January, and if we don't get to February,
then that's just not good enough. Now that's they're they're
not there yet. But I'll tell you what they're building
something this division. Find me an easier division in football
to win, considering the considering you got Lawrence co NFC

(01:47:59):
and a f and are we sure that Liam Cohen
is going to be a great, I don't know, good coordinator.
We thought that Doug Peterson was going to be that
and we saw that turned they fired twice since he
was the Super Bowl champion it was and not long
after and Doug Peterson can coach. You got a Brian
Callahan and a rookie quarterback. You've got the Indianapolis coltson
a journeyman at least thought process with Daniel Jones, and

(01:48:20):
a young quarterback who's physically gifted, but he can't throw
from me to you when it comes to accuracy. And
then you've got then you've got who am I leaving
out in the division. Oh and Lawrence who's got potential,
but that potential has been better than the production, at
least more publicized in production. And then you've got a
guy here who had a down year and won a
division and a playoff game. And I don't think I

(01:48:44):
don't think we've sniffed Stroud's best football. I honestly don't.
And if you keep him up right and they're healthy,
it's different. And this team and the defense is going
to put them in a great position to score on
some short fields this year. I'm not saying now they
can't look at it like we did all this division. Now,
when you're private over a beer, there's no way if

(01:49:04):
you're Jill Mixon or if you're a NECO college, you're
not sitting back saying we're kicking this division's ass this year.

Speaker 6 (01:49:10):
But you know the good thing about this year as
opposed to last year, where you had all the hype
and you know, super Bowl contenders, all of that, where
it's just kind of like.

Speaker 7 (01:49:18):
After that rookie year for Stroud to pomp and circumstances,
it's like they needed a little humble pie agains they
did and they got it came so fast and they
got a huge slice of it last year, and I
think that there's been lessons learned from that because some
CJ were last year he was everywhere, podcasts, draft shows, whatever, anywhere.
This year, No, I think he's he's probably thinking, well,

(01:49:40):
the money for all that will come, I just need
to go do this again. There's there's business. It seems
to me like CJ. Stroud knows what his day job
is and that's important. Well, I mean it's not only him.
I mean, I just I think it's been a very
quiet player off season when I talk about about just
like any chatter about the Texans when it comes to
what they're individually doing at podcasts and appearances and indoors.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
Who's doing a national commercial right now? I haven't seen
anyone great.

Speaker 6 (01:50:07):
I mean, and it wasn't for a lack of effort
from Demico and from Nick Cassario last year. Like I
always go back to the combine before last offseason where
he was asked about translating the success and he's like, guys,
how many times we've seen it in the NFL. Look
how many close games we won last year, Like that
doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna win those the following year.
And boy where his words prophetic, because I mean, you know,

(01:50:29):
you get that Sunday night against the Lions, however, and
many other games where you just came out of that
game and you're.

Speaker 1 (01:50:34):
Just like, God, how they lose that game?

Speaker 7 (01:50:36):
Right, And it's it's got to be coming out of
that Oh what a way to win that game. That's
the difference in good to great, good to great, That's
exactly right. And a fast start always helps to get
a Like I said, I'm a big September guy, man,
I am. We always focus on December. I'll get a
little more leeway in December. If I'm good in September,
you just do. And I'll tell you a team that

(01:50:57):
that epitomizes slow starts being a problem, the Alex Bregman
here in Houston. They ended up going to having a
great year, but sometimes they follow those short as the
Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals in September,
it's like, what are you guys doing? And then they
got to scramble around and play desperate football and kick
your ass. Problem is Joe will put forty on the

(01:51:18):
board and they'll give up forty two.

Speaker 6 (01:51:20):
Well, and then they're also you know, kind of like
we were talking about earlier with Jerry and Micah Parsons,
doing the same thing with Trey Hendrickson. Yeah, for a
bad defense, don't pay your best defensive player.

Speaker 7 (01:51:31):
That's a talk talking about pay me what ya Hooemi? Yeah,
he should be wearing that on a hooded sweatshirt and
four layers.

Speaker 6 (01:51:37):
Well, he's got to show up to have people see it,
because I mean, he's not showing up and we found
that out today.

Speaker 7 (01:51:42):
Well guess what if I'm Trey Hendrickson, I at this
stage of the game, I probably wouldn't either, and I
don't usually subscribe to that, but the guy has been
far and away their best defensive player. He's to their defense.
With Burrow is their offense. Now it's the quarterback and
I get it. But without him that fence, well they
they don't sniff many sacks without him.

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
He's a really good player.

Speaker 6 (01:52:05):
Are gonna find that out, Cameron Bill, see you guys
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Speaker 1 (01:52:35):
They used to use that, so still remember it. Shout
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Speaker 6 (01:52:39):
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but it's the afternoon show Clinton that he'll just radio Trump.

Speaker 7 (01:53:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's great because I like it when
people can make fun of politicians. Well I don't care
a democratic. We made fun of Ad Nauseam, Kamala Harris
and just the Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
You know Trump.

Speaker 7 (01:53:50):
Hey, if you really want to know how good the
President Trump is, what do you need to do?

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:53:55):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, It's like what Shane Gillis said. You know,
he'll describe something, but the the power of a Trump
impersonation is that you have to do it where he's describing,
Like a room, it's the biggest room I've ever seen,
might even be the biggest room that there ever was,
you know, just to add like this is a big moment.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
What loser I was in that room? Yeah, oh look
at this crowd, Look at all these people. Look at everybody,
not the souless media back then.

Speaker 7 (01:54:23):
Oh yeah, He'll say, you people in the front row
just don't get it. These guys are liberal media. I
just don't understand. But fake news, fake news and that
Stephen Colbert Colbert shall canceled should have been canceled years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
That's ratings. Look at how late night television has just
fallen off. Yeah, it's classic.

Speaker 7 (01:54:49):
Good politician impersonators are priceless and people get sensitive to it.
But I don't care if you who you voted for,
you should still be able to laugh. And when they
rip politicians fun or impersonate them, should I say that's
good fun.

Speaker 6 (01:55:03):
That was one of Gillis's comedic bits that he did
where it was like, you say, to somebody, you know,
he really is pretty funny, and they're like, oh my god,
No he's not. Like it's just like the reaction that
people have, oh too when he brings that up, and
it's just kind of like, you know, he does have.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
Some one liners Trump.

Speaker 7 (01:55:19):
Yes, dude, you know he may not like a vote for,
but he does have stuff that'll make you you will laugh.
You're just like, oh, they're weird, there's no doubt, man.
But it's I just love comedy where they can rip anybody.
I think I think when it's comedy and comedy shows,
you should not that the more you offend, the better

(01:55:39):
comedian you are there's just honestly, and the smarter you are.
Those guys are brilliant. How they can just keep going,
the Carlins and the priors. And you know, whether you
like Gillis or not, I do, And I thought I
thought him at ESPN was.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
Well, you can't offend. Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 7 (01:55:52):
You actually can't. You're a comedian and that's why you
paid him to do it. So yeah, I'm okay with it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
I'm okay.

Speaker 6 (01:55:59):
Don't they If you take it personal, that's a you problem.
If you're easily and offended. I I tell people all
the time, if you're easily offended, do not go to
a comedy show, like you know, Oh my god, I
went to Tony Hinchcliffe and he was so offensive.

Speaker 1 (01:56:10):
He's a comedian, that's his job.

Speaker 7 (01:56:12):
Would you expect well, I mean, that's my whole thing.
When you go to a comedy show, when you walk
in the doors, number one is we expected. They may
get you for something. If you're setting up close, you
may they may get you on the clothing you'll wear,
whatever or how you eat. But you should not be
offended by anything. Well, he made a race common or
gender covered, and that's like it's a comedian that's like
a buddy of mine.

Speaker 6 (01:56:32):
Went and so somebody's off limits, and like he that'd
be like going on Andrew Dice Clay show. And yeah,
he did the nursery rhymes. That's what he's known for.
That's his that's his shtick.

Speaker 7 (01:56:41):
Hey, I was there and watched prior and he cussed
Eddie Murphy cut. Oh what a surprising, but about interesting.
I asked when he went and saw Dice at like
some comedy room somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:56:53):
I go, how was it?

Speaker 6 (01:56:53):
He goes, Well, you have to laugh, he goes, because
if you don't, then Dice is gonna come after you.

Speaker 1 (01:56:58):
Fake laugh even if you have to.

Speaker 6 (01:56:59):
It's like it's almost like a hostage situation. Good thing,
it's true. Good comedy for me is like, oh my gosh,
when you do the wow factor. Now the wow factor
could be offending me. It could be offending you could
be offending anybody.

Speaker 7 (01:57:12):
And quite frankly, I think I think we need that
type of comedy back, and I have zero issue with it.

Speaker 6 (01:57:19):
Well, it was like Kennison, you know you upset Kenness,
Well then the comedy stool is gonna be thrown at you.

Speaker 7 (01:57:24):
I got news for you, brother, the younger crowd ain't
ready for him if he came back. And I'm telling
you the twenty five did the college graduate or the
or the everything.

Speaker 1 (01:57:35):
Here's how we're going to do it. You're not allowed
to if it's back to school. Take it easy.

Speaker 7 (01:57:41):
Yeah, oh man, I'm just telling you they ain't ready
for Sam Keittison. Brother, I can tell you that here
and now. But he's funny as hell. God rest those
pink o comedy bastards. Have you ever noticed that our
comedians die too young?

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:57:59):
Yeah, maybe it's because they just emptied the but I
don't know, unfortunately, because they always got to be on
and it's sad, but man alive.

Speaker 1 (01:58:07):
Can you imagine anything?

Speaker 7 (01:58:08):
Well? Man, they do drugs, well, considering that when you're
when they're in a normal place, when they're not doing them.
I'm not saying all of them, the ones we've lost.
Can you imagine because everywhere you go, Hey, I'm having
a burger, I just like to relax, Hey, could you
do that impersonation or could you give dude? Just just
they live They live fast, hard, yeah, and you know
what they almost have to Sadly enough, you know the

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guys who's and and the resistant to be able to
resist that temptation to get caught up in that comedians
are a special group man, the Chappelle's of the world,
and to be able to do that boom boom boom boom.
I think it's a phenomenal skill set.

Speaker 6 (01:58:45):
Or you could be like Chappelle, where you know, you
start getting the network and the network micromanaging you, and
you just quickly say, okay, I'll walk away from yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:58:53):
See yeah bye now yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:58:55):
If I can't do real comedy the way they want
to do it, I'm not going to do it to
He's a square peg, round hole.

Speaker 6 (01:59:00):
He's notorious for just showing up at comedy clubs and
like somebody's about to go up and then the comedy
owner is like, hey, Dave Chappelle's here, You're bumped, Like
can you really get mad if that happens?

Speaker 2 (01:59:09):
So No.

Speaker 7 (01:59:12):
When I was in Minnesota, Hey, Lawren Moon's coming in
as a quarterback. Well I guess I'm backing him up.
Yeah you know, but what are you gonna do? Yeah
you know, then you just you immerse yourself and win
an opportunity. Yeah, it's the same thing. Well, sorry, you're
getting bumped. Well, oh, you're bringing a Hall of Famer
in Yeah, no, no doubt. Give him my money too,
Oh you got plenty of it, Give him mine. So yeah,

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you can't be mad at that. They'll come a time
if you're good that they'll bump somebody else for you.
That's just the way. When Chappelle walks in, the whole
schedule changes. Right, good comedy.

Speaker 6 (01:59:42):
I was gonna say, Chappelle comes in here. Hey, Dave
Chappelle wants to host the final hour, Well then it's
gonna be Dave and Sean.

Speaker 7 (01:59:48):
Dave, where would you like to sit? Yeah, hey, take mine,
that's no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:59:54):
But three hours down, Cameron, Bill, see you guys right there.
Promise you were gonna work you into the conversation. Also
Chris Gordy for his weekly visit to here, one of
his two courtesy of Carbock Brewing.

Speaker 1 (02:00:05):
We'll get to all of that by bar Yeah, barbecue
president there it is. What would picture him coming into
Jim Barrows.

Speaker 6 (02:00:13):
Absolutely, I could I could see the Motorcale am I going,
I'm good?

Speaker 1 (02:00:17):
Jealous Spota and I are going.

Speaker 6 (02:00:18):
Yeah, when are on all these people with you know,
suits and sunglasses and earpieces, and oh, the President's going
to twenty two one Leland Street.

Speaker 7 (02:00:26):
Best barbecue on the planet, or you see a lot
of it. You got your arguments in Memphis and Kansas
City and here in Houston, in Dallas and other places.
What you don't have is the argument of indoor outdoor facility,
of phenomenal customer service, but you don't order the same
thing all the time. Now, I'm not telling you how
to eat, but if you really want to see the

(02:00:46):
depth of that menu and how good it is, it
doesn't matter what you order.

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
When it comes out of.

Speaker 7 (02:00:51):
It, you say, oh, now I got to decide between
eighteen things next time, perfect menu, great taste, great customer service,
two one Leland And the fact that with that indoor
outdoor it's going to be rocking in the fall time.
It already is in the summertime. Love the place and
grateful that we're part of that family day. I mean,
you know, I just want to take you through the
scenario too. If you pull in to the parking lot

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right there and you know it's paid, you actually have
a spot to park, You've got that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
I mean, mister President himself would say, biggest parking lot
I've ever seen, tremendous pocketing. Life is great. Then you
get out of your car, you go inside. Oh the
smells in this place, it's fantastic. It's almost the anticipation
is smells ever is just as great as Look at
that brisket right there. It's tremendous. It's fantastic. And see
and so is that allapenio cheddar sausage. Melt your mouth.

Speaker 6 (02:01:39):
Let me have some of that too. All the sides. Ah,
they're fantastic. Look look at that bar over the best
bar I've ever seen.

Speaker 7 (02:01:44):
And you don't need an event around their restaurant doesn't hurt.
Oh when they come back to Diking Park, you know
their pre or post game and have at it weekends,
bring your dog for the outdoor stuff from big old TV.
They're they're doing it right at J Barm And uh
wait till they actually are around for a few minutes,
because eight is getting started.

Speaker 1 (02:02:03):
Man, the best of the business for sure, And I
mean you mentioned it.

Speaker 6 (02:02:06):
Event, no event, there's no wrong time to go over
to Jbarn Barbecue again. Twenty two oh one Leland Street
College football season. It's firing up the team right there.
In the third ward. You're gonna be looking for a
place pregame, postgame anytime. It's jbar M Barbecue right there again,
twenty two oh one Leland Street, right there in Ito.

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Speaker 9 (02:02:35):
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Speaker 1 (02:02:49):
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Speaker 2 (02:02:51):
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Speaker 1 (02:03:05):
Time.

Speaker 6 (02:03:06):
Will we bring on Chris Gordy After the Astros win
six y three last night in Arizona over the Diamondbacks.
A couple of home runs from Bryce Matthews. That's nice
to see. And then also to the Texans going to
start up training camp tomorrow. But one thing though, Chris
hadn't had a chance to share this yet last night
watching the game, and you know that one of my
crusades has been Christian Walker. Hey Man got to swing

(02:03:27):
the back, got a hit. And they showed a graphic
last night before the game on Space City Home Network
that in wins this season, Christian Walker hitting two eighty eight,
eight to sixty one ops, thirteen homers, forty runs batted
in last night a couple of hits including a run
batted in, and what did the Astros do?

Speaker 13 (02:03:46):
I would like to petition Major League Baseball to have
Christian Walker be able to play all of his games
either in Dodger Stadium or out there in Phoenix, because
he just hits in those balls as.

Speaker 7 (02:03:58):
An off day. Throw them in Colorado, all three, just
play them, all just rotate. It's like stick them on
a table to play the rotation. Just play those three
kind of like you know, Super Bowl or National Title.
It's New Orleans, Yeah, it's Tampa. And it's who do
we owe Vegas now? Or whoever is we're atting and
let him go because he'd win the Triple Crown.

Speaker 13 (02:04:16):
Well, you have these new VR headsets that you could
put on and you could see like different worlds. I
think we just put those on him where you could
still see the baseball in the pitcher, but just it
looks like Dodger Stadium behind him.

Speaker 1 (02:04:26):
Yeah, it's like those smart glasses.

Speaker 7 (02:04:27):
Christian Walker's wearing a different type of sunglass today. But
he's twenty seven of twenty seven. What are you looking
at in there? Well, shop has ravine that's pretty good.
And oh yeah, Arizona was cool too. We'll keep them on.
Whatever's your mountains, palm trees, that's all that's talking about.
What did you take before the game? Oh, San Gabriel mountains. Yeah,
everything's good. But where we're rolling and by the way,
I see the ocean too.

Speaker 1 (02:04:48):
It's amazing.

Speaker 13 (02:04:49):
It's amazing though, because I mean, like, look, everybody loses
their mind when it gets to trade deadline. Like people,
all logic goes out the window. When people start talking
about Major League Baseball trade deadline.

Speaker 1 (02:04:59):
You have moron who are like, I mean, you think
if we if we give up this guy?

Speaker 13 (02:05:02):
You think, oh tawny, like shut up, stop, Like, but
some people making trade acquisitions for the Astros to acquire
first baseman And I'm going, wait, what world are they going.

Speaker 1 (02:05:11):
To trade for? Well, because Walker sucks, Okay, you don't
get you just kick him to the gurb. He's here
making a ton of money. You don't just this isn't Madden,
You're what MLB the show.

Speaker 13 (02:05:20):
You can't just go oh cut, no, that's real money
being paid to a real guy who is there.

Speaker 1 (02:05:25):
He's not moving.

Speaker 7 (02:05:26):
Guess what the garrett the biggest garrett, Well, it's not
the biggest, but one of the biggest guarantees on this
team is Christian Walker is playing first base this year. Now,
we'll see you about twenty twenty six, but he is
going to be in the lineup the majority of time.
And you're not trading for Vlad Guerrero Junior.

Speaker 1 (02:05:44):
You're just not.

Speaker 7 (02:05:45):
So we're gonna have to pick a different lane because
that lane is taken for now. In the future, hell,
who the hell knows, but you are exactly right.

Speaker 1 (02:05:53):
You're right. This isn't fantasy.

Speaker 7 (02:05:55):
I can call you, hey, Gordy man, you want to
make a trade, Well, Sean, like I'd like Christian Walker
and seven ten other players for Vlad. No, I can't
do that. Yeah, you just can't move money around like
that at the drop of a hat.

Speaker 13 (02:06:06):
First, doesn't anybody who's gonna call in a seven ninety
for the next couple of weeks and come up with
hypothetical trades. I want you to look yourself in the
mirror and present that trade to yourself in the mirror
and see what yourself says, because if it's asinine to
the jackass in the mirror, it's asinine to all the
rest of us when you call in and go, yeah,
I want to trade mccollors, What value does he have

(02:06:26):
right now?

Speaker 1 (02:06:27):
Yeah? I want to trade Chas McCormick for what value
does he have for what?

Speaker 13 (02:06:31):
I'm sorry, no disrespect to those guys, but like, it's
not one man's trash's another man's treasure. It's another man's track.

Speaker 7 (02:06:38):
Right now, you wouldn't get an apple in a roadmap
for Lansma Colors. But that's okay, because eight weeks from now,
maybe you will. But you're exactly right if the mirror says,
n I can't do it because you just can't take
production in mind. You have to take the business side
in mind, the money, the years where you are. And
I hate to tell you the guess who's not available?

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The first baseman, Freddie Freeman ain't coming here. Okay, we
don't get him.

Speaker 6 (02:07:07):
Okay, what if I gave you John Singleton like this
one guy on Twitter tell John Singleton to hop on
the next plane to Seattle. F Walker and his glove,
A guy that make the team out of spring training.

Speaker 1 (02:07:24):
There's all of a sudden going to be the same
the Yulie they said, I mean, there's still some.

Speaker 13 (02:07:29):
Of My favorite was last night one of the guys tweeted, Uh,
Bryce Matthews seems to get back to triple A and
then literally minutes later he.

Speaker 1 (02:07:38):
Hits a free run homer and then a two run homers.
Always the best.

Speaker 7 (02:07:41):
Guess we're no time in the near future. Guess where
Bryce Matthews isn't going right now?

Speaker 6 (02:07:47):
Mickey's story is not getting Bryce Matthews ain't walking back
through that door.

Speaker 1 (02:07:51):
Mickey. Yeah, at least for starters.

Speaker 7 (02:07:54):
He's that his vehicle that he drives a diking park
ain't headed down to the sugar Land just yet.

Speaker 1 (02:08:00):
Hey, your card and your placards still work here.

Speaker 7 (02:08:02):
I know some some tried that with Cam Smith. Well
he'll be in no matter of fact, he's never going back.

Speaker 1 (02:08:08):
What number game is this for Bryce? It's it's only
been a handful. I say, it's less than five, isn't it?
Maybe game there?

Speaker 13 (02:08:16):
You go fifth game and drive in five. That's gotta
be that don't happen.

Speaker 1 (02:08:21):
Very well, No, it sure doesn't.

Speaker 7 (02:08:22):
You'll get the guy who in his first game Homer's
families in the stands, and though it does it and
then you got to go through a loll people say, Okay,
I'm not throwing in that same pitch the second time.
Up Bryce Matthews, it's obvious that while the potentials there,
that he's got a chance of some tremendous production. If
you're looking down the line, it sure looks like the
middle infield, if you don't get pain assigned for a
long time, is in pretty good shape. If in fact

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we're parlaying this out three four years. Was it you
or was it a caller that brought up that.

Speaker 6 (02:08:47):
I guess it was Dano Doubt or somebody on MLB
network of the untouchable guys out there and that you
know players that about. Yeah, and Matthews was one of
those guys that supposedly it's a teams would be very interested.

Speaker 1 (02:08:59):
But Dana Brown's gonna be like yeah, no.

Speaker 13 (02:09:02):
Yeah, Well, it all depends on what's what's being offered,
right Like if you know, I don't know if the
Dodgers sent Otani, you know, yeah, well, guess people that
are untouchable until.

Speaker 1 (02:09:12):
A certain a certain things negotiab.

Speaker 7 (02:09:14):
Now you've found a way to make them he's untouchable. Well,
Otani's in the deal, he's touchable. Yes, we can move him.
We'll find another Bryce Matthews. What you're not gonna find
is another show. Hey o, TAWNI hence why well you're
not getting him either.

Speaker 13 (02:09:29):
Ever, I just can't get over did you see the
catch camp Smith made? It was on like a first
or second inning up against the wall. It looks like
he's been playing out there for years.

Speaker 7 (02:09:39):
Yeah, it's a new position. Sucks to be a good athlete,
does it. You could do just about anything. And the
truth is he may be a better outfielder than he
actually was playing third base anyway. You know what I'm saying,
You've got a guy in truth. If you could play
third base and right field, can't you play just about anywhere?
And the truth of matters with the way he can run.

(02:10:00):
And we're not moving, don't misunderstanding. But if I threw
him in center field for sixty games, would you be worried?
Absolutely not, because he could cover gapic. I mean you wouldn't.
So it's nice to have a guy.

Speaker 10 (02:10:11):
Hey.

Speaker 7 (02:10:11):
You know what, well, just as a rookie, not is
a guy who's worked on it for two years in
Triple A. Remember he hadn't played right field spring training.
I mean here, well we're going to ever. As a
matter of fact, I think we even asked him, well,
you know, left fielder, we'll see about right field and
I'll be down put him in there, and I'm not
sure after they put him in there, if they even
question it.

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
From then on, it's like, well, we got him. We're good.

Speaker 7 (02:10:31):
And in deep down Dana is such a good scout
talent and sees that that they probably had that in
mind were his parlayed position where you were going to
see him. It just came faster than you would have
expected because his adjustment, his way. He taxed the ball
isn't like a guy who's not played the position but
for eighty games or whatever it is. He's got grit,
make no mistake about it, grit as good.

Speaker 13 (02:10:53):
As he chazz to make it. Some good diving catches
up there.

Speaker 1 (02:10:56):
Remember how many outs there are? Yeah, that was well,
the run was going to score for thirty anyway. But no,
that wasn't the problem.

Speaker 6 (02:11:02):
But did you see Colton Gordon too, was like, no,
stay out there, We'll still playing.

Speaker 1 (02:11:05):
We still got another We've still got another out to.

Speaker 13 (02:11:07):
Get Buddy and Taylor Tremell had a hit last night.
By the way, he's uh, he's gonna be on the
A team today at two thirty.

Speaker 1 (02:11:12):
Okay, catch that.

Speaker 7 (02:11:15):
What a nice pleasant git he's been huh. I mean
just the way he's playing at the major league considering that,
you know, you wouldn't be seeing much of him if
everybody was healthy and things were going.

Speaker 1 (02:11:24):
But that tea.

Speaker 7 (02:11:25):
This team's better than any team I've seen at just
finding guys who do it. Yeah, we've talked about it
a million times.

Speaker 13 (02:11:30):
They literally just they walk down the street outside Dyke
and Park. Hey, you want to come play some baseball,
We'll put you out there. That There was nothing better though,
when Taylor Tremmell they were at Dodger Stadium and he
got his World Series ring while the astro spank that ass.

Speaker 1 (02:11:42):
That was that was great. Oh didn't that the truth? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:11:45):
Here take your ring and that ass.

Speaker 1 (02:11:47):
Yeah he beat you. He's sticking around for another segment. Yeah,
if you want, let's do it. There we go.

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Speaker 6 (02:12:09):
Yeah, how about them six six? Nothing went over the Mariners.
Now you're back up to five.

Speaker 7 (02:12:14):
You think that franchise ever has any good young arms?
Got a handful whatever they're whatever they're whatever they're eating
or drinking. There when it comes to just pumping it.
And if you're throwing, yeah, exactly, if you're throwing at
ninety seven, we call those guys cunny thumber.

Speaker 1 (02:12:32):
What's this?

Speaker 7 (02:12:33):
That guy throws off speed stuff all the time. Rights
drink that's a dibble special. Oh he's a cunny thumber.
Well he throws ninety four dibbs. Yeah, but he's got
that junk stuff because he was used to throwing it,
you know, if he's not throwing it down the middle
and pumping it a hundred him, oh yeah, yeah. And
and and and don't crowd the plate because that's a
rookade shot for dibbs that he'll charge you from the mount.

Speaker 1 (02:12:56):
As opposed to the opposite.

Speaker 7 (02:12:57):
Yeah, Charlton, oh yeah, that get after yeah, Norm Charles
and that whole group. And they still take about every
year they'll get together and have a photo together and stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:13:06):
You've gotta love it.

Speaker 7 (02:13:06):
But that damn those Milwaukee Arms every year for the
last decade, it seems like three or and then everybody
wants to go into their organization and pluck one, you
know what I'm saying, and grab one from them. But
we'll take them when they're helping this franchise.

Speaker 1 (02:13:20):
That's right.

Speaker 13 (02:13:20):
So the lead is back to five in the AL West,
and I couldn't help but look at this, I said,
let me just take a gander over at the AL
standings overall. The Blue Jays, by the way, I don't
know what the hell they're taken. They've won four in
a row, seven or last ten. They're now a game
up on the Astros in the American League standings, but
the Detroit Tigers still lead all of the American League

(02:13:42):
a game and a half back. The Astros are of
the Tigers. I'm just looking, fellas. A month from right now,
the Astros will be up in Detroit for a three
game series. Is there a chance they go into that
series with a chance to take two out of three
and and come out with the best record in the
American League, it's possible.

Speaker 6 (02:14:01):
Well it's also too. I mean, who are the sun
of the parts? Is that Jordan Back? Is that Jeremy
Pania Back? Is that?

Speaker 1 (02:14:09):
Yeah? Javier who gets the pitching starts as well? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:14:12):
You know, although that this team has been pretty resilient
with you know, with Away Walter and you know, Gordon
just keep giving you five or six innings. I mean
it's been pretty impressive. But oh, of course, I think
there's a legit shot. But you're exactly right. Where who
are the names that are going to be playing then?
But that's the team to go through in the American League,
Toronto or not. It's still Detroit because they can pitch,

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they're well managed, and they can.

Speaker 13 (02:14:35):
Rake and a lot of winnable games between now and
then you get four with the A's, three with the Nationals,
three with the Marlins. Boston will see what they look like.
You do have to go for three up a Yankee Stadium. Baltimore,
you know has been stubbing their toe all year. So
I just look at that series and go could that
be first place?

Speaker 1 (02:14:53):
Yea impressed? Yeah, that's like twenty games. You just mentioned.

Speaker 7 (02:14:57):
If you tire in three and four game series of
that they can make a lot of advancement and that
win column with with some of this schedule.

Speaker 1 (02:15:05):
And what a message to send to them the house.
That's exactly and.

Speaker 6 (02:15:09):
It's also too I mean, you know, comparing yourself to others,
you got your own problems to deal with.

Speaker 1 (02:15:13):
For the Astros, it's injuries.

Speaker 6 (02:15:14):
But you know mentioned Detroit earlier lost six straight before
they went on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (02:15:19):
The Dodgers just got swept again at home. I mean,
they're going very long.

Speaker 13 (02:15:25):
I mean, but don't feel like some of these teams,
you're gonna flip flip a switch when you get to
late September October.

Speaker 7 (02:15:31):
Like, I don't think there's a lot that can. That
team in La is one that when they can flip
a switch and turn it on and off of that,
and I think they know it. That's, you know, their
hunger factor. I know they won one last year, but
I would imagine the hunger factors still there because they
want to say, well, well you will one hit. Wonder
all this talent you're supposed and the pressure rise because
you're supposed to be good because you've got great players,

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and watch they're gonna go trade for class at the trade.
Do you watch, They're gonna go get his ass and
get somebody at the back end of the bullpen. So yeah,
that's the team that you say, at some point in
time when they turn it on, they can go fifteen
out of seventeen.

Speaker 1 (02:16:04):
Well, then what cracks me up to is the benefit
of the doubt.

Speaker 6 (02:16:07):
Oh well, I mean, look at all the guys they
have injured, whereas we're here in Houston, we're like injured injured.

Speaker 13 (02:16:13):
Yeah, exactly did you see wex tweeted out. I think
it was Sunday. All the guys on the Astros eyelt
you could literally fill out an entire lineup and an
entire rotation of all the guys that aren't playing, Like
you could almost call it like the Astros B team,
but that team might be go to the playoffs. You
could win a playoff game. Oh yeah with the IL team.

Speaker 7 (02:16:34):
Right now, Well, think about it. You got the d
h I mean you can you can roll. You've got
a shortstop, you got a center fielder, I mean you
roll through the lineup crazy, and then you're pitching staff.
Javier Garcia Arraghetty France. Who am I leaving out? Was
Nesky Garcia there's five starters right there, right now. Blanco Blanco,

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there's your six rand rotation. Yeah, not to just win
a playoff game, maybe a playoff series too.

Speaker 1 (02:16:59):
I'm trying to find becus Wex tweets like thirteen times
a day. Here is scrolled down with parades. Here's your astros.

Speaker 13 (02:17:07):
All iel team does Zenzo at first, Brendan Rodgers at second,
Parade's at third, Peignette short, your outfield pedro Leone, Jake Myers,
Jacob Melton, Your DH is Jordan Alvarez. You then have
Giormy off the bench, he could play any spot. And
then your rotation is Arrogetty, Blanco, France, Garcia, Xavier with

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Wiznski and Sean Dubin off the bench.

Speaker 1 (02:17:30):
I mean, that's a.

Speaker 7 (02:17:31):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the team that went eighty
eight and made the eighty eight games and made the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (02:17:37):
It's crazy. It is crazy. So they do.

Speaker 7 (02:17:40):
And the fact that they're five games in front of
first place is nothing short of quite frankly, manager of
the year sitting in that dugout right now.

Speaker 1 (02:17:47):
I believe that.

Speaker 6 (02:17:48):
And I mean, you know one other thing that we
talked about earlier, to Gordy, is just the what the
expectations are for this team right now? Of usually it's hey,
go win a series and you can keep it moving,
I mean, or the time being until you get to
that softer part of the schedule, isn't it just don't
get swept?

Speaker 1 (02:18:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (02:18:05):
And I feel like like you just kind of take
this series by series, like tonight with Fromber on the Mound,
it almost feels like you gotta go win this and
then Brandon Walter the Afternoon Affair on Wednesday, Okay, whatever,
we'll see what we get there. But that, yeah, I mean,
you get the A's. By the way, it sets up
for mcclors to go Thursday night back home against the A's.

Speaker 1 (02:18:22):
That should be his get right game.

Speaker 13 (02:18:24):
That should be the game where mccullors goes five or
six one run ball, eight strikeouts, like that should be
the get right game form a color.

Speaker 6 (02:18:32):
But if he doesn't, I mean, is it finally to
that point where it's, hey, how close are Hobby here?
How close are any of these other guys? Because I
almost feel like you.

Speaker 13 (02:18:41):
Can't rush them though they all just made their first
rehap starts, so it's gonna take a little while, and.

Speaker 1 (02:18:47):
Not only take a little while, but in truth years.

Speaker 7 (02:18:51):
Ye right now, just body count. You have to start him, right, yeah,
I mean you have to, and it's incumbent upon him.

Speaker 1 (02:18:59):
He's got to be better.

Speaker 7 (02:19:00):
He just guys got to throw more early strikes and
more competitive strikes. Let me switch to football real quick
in the next couple of minutes. I don't think there's
an easier division to win than this one, the than
the AFC South. Considering coaching change in Jacksonville, coach on
a hot seat in Tennessee, rookie quarterback in Tennessee, who's
going to be good? An inconsistent up and down Dow

(02:19:20):
Jones are and Trevor Lawrence Daniel Jones may be your starter.

Speaker 1 (02:19:23):
He's a journeyman, but got good game.

Speaker 7 (02:19:25):
And Anthony Richardson if he plays well, his accuracy for
me to you is an exactly primo this team. If
the offensive line keeps the quarterback up right, how is
this division not the When I say easy, I use
that obviously term loosely that this this division, this should
be a dominated division by this Texans team.

Speaker 1 (02:19:45):
It should be if there's no injuries.

Speaker 13 (02:19:47):
Yeah, I mean, it's tough to win divisional games. But
you should you should sweep one, if not two, divisional opponents.
Maybe go one and one, it gets another one, right,
But that's I mean ten wins easy is what I think.

Speaker 7 (02:20:00):
If they play it right now, the rest of their
schedule you have to look at. But but they're a
team that should be we should be talking in December
about them battling for a home playoff games. We really
should can say, because if you win the division. In
the AFC North, brutal Browns will play defense. Is their
offense is very good. If you're the a f C East,

(02:20:21):
you know you're dealing with Buffalo and Miami.

Speaker 1 (02:20:23):
Who's a.

Speaker 7 (02:20:25):
They will they will continue, They'll they'll score forty and
get beat in a game, right, That's who they are.
And then in the a f C North, I mean
the a f C West, the Raiders. I judge teams
not about top heavy. The Raiders is the worst team
in the division. I think they're a playoff team in
the next couple of years. I think Pete Carroll will
turn them around.

Speaker 6 (02:20:43):
I do.

Speaker 7 (02:20:44):
They've did some good brutal, Brutal, you're going to be
a good team and miss the playoffs in that division.

Speaker 1 (02:20:50):
Fame games a week from this time.

Speaker 7 (02:20:51):
No, that's crazy. Oh my god, it's unreal. So the
Texans their path to this try to get home field.
If you win home field advantage in the a f
C and you're in the AFC West, you've had a
hell of a season, and even in the North because
you're still got to deal with Cleveland's defense and three
other teams that are pretty damn stellar in that division.
And how Rogers is going to play in the East

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if you you know Buffalo and Miami and who am
I leaving out?

Speaker 1 (02:21:15):
The Jets? And what's the other team whom I leaving
out in the East? Oh?

Speaker 7 (02:21:18):
New England should be improved with rabel and toughness, right,
but this division here, you should be in December? Okay,
the division is ours? Now what are we doing to
get home field advantage? And or chief You need the
Chiefs to fall back one? No, No, that's the problem.

Speaker 13 (02:21:32):
I mean, you you went there, you put up a
hell of a fight in Kansas City. But the reality
is you were ten and seven, they were fifteen and two.

Speaker 1 (02:21:39):
Hasn't the division gone closer to them? Though?

Speaker 7 (02:21:41):
Don't you think that considering the offensive production? I'm not
saying that they're not good. They find enough to get
it by, to get it done. But you start to
think Raiders will be improved. Gino Smith and Pete Carroll,
we know that, and they'll play defense, and then they
were going to run the football this year too. With
gent they just are the Chargers the Chargers, So think
the Chargers are going to overtake they'll be overtake the Chiefs,

(02:22:03):
and there are some that are going to battle that.
And then listen. The team that could shock the world
even and I think they did last year, is that
Sean Payton's got a guy he loves, a quarterback that
does exactly what he wants. And now he's got the
bandwidth with his legs to do something that Drew couldn't
do it. Now he's not Drew Brees throwing it, don't misunderstanding,
but he gives you that. And their defense is really good.
So hell, three teams from the Division of Playoffs, that

(02:22:25):
division's coming closer together. There's not a major gap between
the the Chiefs and the Denver Broncles. They're just not
but it is the Chiefs and it is the team
that they know how to win those games.

Speaker 1 (02:22:36):
You're Texans fan, you just need those three teams to
beat up. There's no doubt, ste no question.

Speaker 6 (02:22:42):
I mean in Will Anderson Junior, I remember it, you know,
locker clean out last year of saying that game we
just played on Saturday. We need one of those in
our building. He's saying that. Then who else is saying
home record in the playoffs, I mean it's pretty damn strong.
They rarely lose home playoff games here.

Speaker 7 (02:22:58):
The last time they won a home playoff game, they
won a home playoff games last yes year, I mean
before that, I know last year, the year before. That's right,
because that's exactly right, because they had the home playoff
game coming out of the wild card in the divisional
round yep.

Speaker 13 (02:23:10):
And the only one I can remember was the dud
they laid against the Colts here.

Speaker 7 (02:23:15):
But other than that, they kicked the Raiders ass that
year when Carr got hurt. Remember in the that game
was here.

Speaker 13 (02:23:20):
If I'd not missathing, wasn't jj Watt against the Bengals twice?

Speaker 1 (02:23:23):
I mean it's you know they was here.

Speaker 7 (02:23:25):
That was the Marvin Lewis time, correct, where they'd get
in and couldn't win a playoff game, meaning Cincinnati and TJ.

Speaker 1 (02:23:32):
Yates throwing touchdowns.

Speaker 13 (02:23:33):
But it's I mean, like Kansas City went fifteen and two,
You're not going to win fifteen.

Speaker 1 (02:23:38):
Can you get to what's the where would you put
the line? Thirteen?

Speaker 7 (02:23:42):
Yeah to me, and you win thirteen games, you are
in the last week of the season staring at with
a chance to win home field advtage. But it is
true considering their offensive production meetings, the gaudy stats weren't there.
Shows you what Spagnol and the defense did to win
fifteen games and deal with that.

Speaker 1 (02:23:58):
And they they had side everything and.

Speaker 7 (02:24:02):
Every referees call. Hell, during pregame warm up, they flagged
the pass rush on Mahomes. Hey, we've got there's two
penalties on you guys just for showing.

Speaker 13 (02:24:11):
Up to the stadium today, right, So did you see
the cold play couple meme?

Speaker 1 (02:24:14):
It was it was Mahomes hugging a referee.

Speaker 7 (02:24:18):
It should be the other, right, the referee that's not me. Yeah,
that's exactly right. So I don't see fifteen wins thirteen
And you got a legitimate matter of fact, in most years,
thirteen wins.

Speaker 1 (02:24:28):
Is going to get you home field advantaged throughout.

Speaker 6 (02:24:31):
Be doing backflips. If that's the case, you're always doing
backflips too, Gordy whenever you know, because I'm going on vacation.
As soon as the show's over, I'm heading to one
of the package stores, going to get a couple of
twelve RECs of some Crawford Bok to take over to Alabama.

Speaker 13 (02:24:44):
Yeah, you go, get you one of those big styrofoam
ice chests and put some ice in there and load
it with some Crawford back. You'll be doing all right
over there on the beach. And of course, Astros a
couple more games in Arizona and then we'll be back
here home Thursday night, and then it's what a seven
game home stand where you'll be able to get Crawford
back every night of the week over there at Dike
in Park Bird right here in Houston, Texas by uh

(02:25:07):
Carbock Brewing.

Speaker 1 (02:25:08):
It is uh.

Speaker 13 (02:25:09):
It does nothing better goes with Astros baseball than having
a Crawford Bach watching strows listening to him on seven ninety.
So grab you some Crawford Bach ahead of his home
stand and let's root on the Astros.

Speaker 1 (02:25:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:25:20):
By the way, just to uh cheers to one of
those to uh Ian Baker Finch. No, he's retiring after
these led after these last two tournaments and going to
retire from broadcasting. He's become and what a class gentleman too,
he really has I wonder why. Hopefully he's healthy and
everything's okay.

Speaker 1 (02:25:38):
I'm gonna read this.

Speaker 7 (02:25:39):
I just saw it come across and Colt Gnost and
Dottie Pepper were talking about it. I well, what, what
a hell of a run pick. And it's hard to
think that he's been doing it that long. He's been
really good. So another another legend that held in high regard.
Good on him.

Speaker 1 (02:25:52):
Shout out to my guy Smiley Kaufman from LSU heard
there you go.

Speaker 7 (02:25:56):
There you go, Smiley Kaufman and a riser in the
broadcast business. Even when you drop f bombs under your
breath on the broadcast.

Speaker 1 (02:26:01):
Good on him. We've all been there one way or
the other.

Speaker 7 (02:26:04):
If you've been in broadcasting long enough, you're gonna do
something where you walk into the building the next day
in the big boss looks at you like, we're gonna
be okay, Just be careful next time hot the MIC's
always hot.

Speaker 6 (02:26:15):
Or like when Scottie Scheffler hit that shot, on Thursday
and somebody ripped the fart.

Speaker 1 (02:26:19):
You didn't hear that? I did.

Speaker 7 (02:26:21):
Yeah, I it's so harsh coming out of your mouth.
All right, I love the broadcasters and the European Brockers
will laughing their ass a little extra wind bend and
you know the and after that it was probably sitting
at about three feet to be shot right the way
he was swinging it, for sure, Gordy, you're the best man.

Speaker 1 (02:26:38):
Sure, excellent, there you go.

Speaker 6 (02:26:39):
All right, let's get back into the Astros conversation because
it seems like a decision has been made in real time.

Speaker 1 (02:26:45):
We'll talk about it here.

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Speaker 6 (02:28:13):
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Speaker 1 (02:28:19):
See disdain Dan, I thought that he was as Dan.
I did it came out, man, I mean, I mean
it came out quick.

Speaker 6 (02:28:27):
It's kind of like what Johnny Depp says about Captain
Jack Sparrow as somebody asked him if he's ever going
to return, and he got into the voice. He comes
to visit me every once in a while, you know,
as Captain Jack Sparrow. So that's that's what my disdain
Dan is, is that every once in a while it
comes to visit.

Speaker 1 (02:28:41):
It just came to visit right there. So I apologize
to you, I apologize to Tripoli and the audience. I'll
be better. I'll try to be at least.

Speaker 6 (02:28:48):
But anyway, stro's when six three last nights over the
Diamondbacks out in Arizona, and we've talked about Texans training
camp gonna get fired up tomorrow over there at NRG
Park by the way to Sean. You know, last night
I was half right because I thought that Joe was
going to roll out a lineup with gallon the righty

(02:29:09):
going that we were going to see Victor Carrottini still catch,
which that part was right. I was surprised that he
didn't roll out Singleton yesterday, that after he had the
late night get into Seattle all of that, and you know,
quick turnaround day game.

Speaker 1 (02:29:23):
I can get all of that.

Speaker 6 (02:29:24):
You don't want to use him then, But I thought maybe,
you know, good night's sleep all of that that he'd say, well,
left handed bats, I you know, I want I want
to be able to, you know, use a left handed
bat that's off the bench. Didn't do it, but I mean,
yet again, Victor Carrottini catching talked about the struggles of Yiner.
It's even to the point now where Joe's like, hey,
look man, I mean if you're not.

Speaker 7 (02:29:44):
Giving me much diffidend once every seven or eight days, right,
it's happening.

Speaker 1 (02:29:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:29:48):
Yeah, if you're not giving it to me defensively, then
I can't really justify putting you in offensively because that
part's not happening either.

Speaker 1 (02:29:56):
How many hits did Victor get last night? Again? A
couple of more off there you go. Yeah, I think
he had two.

Speaker 7 (02:30:00):
I think he was two for four last night again,
one for four, hard hit balls right though, right in
the first inning. But like I told you, the ball
always seems to be there's it feels like he's always
putting in a play he's doing as a professional hitter.

Speaker 1 (02:30:13):
His uncle Vic the damn right. So I like it.

Speaker 7 (02:30:15):
In as far as the Christian Walker, of course you're
playing him, it doesn't matter because it's in his there's
that feeling of oh he's wouldn't matter who he was facing.
We got this guy come back to his building.

Speaker 6 (02:30:26):
Just if we can go to San Diego and San
Francisco to round out the National League West this year,
it would be nice.

Speaker 1 (02:30:32):
You know, you had them come to you.

Speaker 6 (02:30:33):
Unfortunately, it would be nice and and you know did
talk about that too with Walker. I mean I as
soon as I saw that graphic. I don't pause the
broadcast very often, but as soon as I saw that,
I was.

Speaker 1 (02:30:44):
Like, oh, I'm writing that down.

Speaker 6 (02:30:45):
I'm absolutely going to use that because remember during Rocket season,
I said it all the time. With Jalen Green, he scores,
they win. It's as simple as that. With Christian Walker,
he hits, they win.

Speaker 7 (02:30:54):
Yeah, it's been pretty evident since he's been rolling, right,
I mean, you know, from starting college ratto and doing it.
But and I also even the times when he and
I'm sure Dan the statistics you're talking about, even the
times when he's not been consistently doing it, the times
he does hit the advantage and as well documented, he's
sitting in the middle of the order.

Speaker 1 (02:31:14):
You got to have him driving runs nearly hits a
home run last night.

Speaker 6 (02:31:17):
You know, when you were out last month we had
Eric Kratz on he had talked about he goes, Look,
when Walker's going at his best, he used to hammer
that pool out there in right center field. That's where
a lot of his home runs would go. He goes,
when he starts doing that, you know things are good.
Where did he hit that RBI double last night?

Speaker 7 (02:31:34):
The other way? The right side? It's a center field
exactly right. So yeah, and that's you know, you could
always guys like that when I judge, and I'm not
putting him in their class, but when you're talking about that,
who were to give me two right handed hitters in
baseball over the last fifteen or so years that did
the same thing when you knew they were going there.
Migey Cabrera as good as anybody in baseball going right

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Center with Power and J. D. Martinez. That's where they lived.
And then the poll stuff was just you know, you
miss on the inside part and they're pulling it. That's
But when they're pounding balls to right center and it's
going out of the ballpark with authority, a complete different ballgame,
and when Christian Walker is doing that, you know, all
is pretty good in the Astros world.

Speaker 6 (02:32:16):
I got a direct line right now the Jim Crane. Hey,
mister Crane, maybe a pool out in right center field
at Dyke and Park next year.

Speaker 1 (02:32:26):
I can either confirm nor deny.

Speaker 6 (02:32:27):
I mean, I was going to say, you know, you've
got a couple more years in Christian Walker here. Maybe
maybe it's just the sight lines right there, of just
seeing that, of just saying, hey, there's people in a
swimming pool right there, all.

Speaker 1 (02:32:37):
Right, yeah, hey, heads up out. I've been to you.

Speaker 7 (02:32:42):
Yeah, I've been Arizona's Ballpark about fifty times. I'm just wondering,
is it an any ground pull built into the concrete?
Right it's not above ground?

Speaker 1 (02:32:49):
Right now? It's not about yeah, well we'll take it
above you you've got class Yeah, so you want to
build it in the ground.

Speaker 7 (02:32:54):
Oh yeah, you want to make it right, you know,
and next up a plunge pool right there, so I'd
be good with that. At least house day to throw
the plunge pull in. Although you can close the building here,
so at.

Speaker 6 (02:33:05):
Least if nothing else with the above ground pool, at
least build a deck up right there.

Speaker 7 (02:33:09):
Yeah, so you can like treat it that. The deck
almost treats it like it's an end ground pool. Either
it's a level or high. I'm with you, yeah, I'm
with you. It's it's all about appearances at a certain point.
But Ronnie, see you right there, get you involved in
the conversation. If we do have time before we hand
it over to Matt and Ross, I do want to
get into a little bit of college football because something
came down yesterday and we'll discuss that.

Speaker 1 (02:33:31):
Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 6 (02:33:31):
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Speaker 3 (02:34:53):
We want to wait, Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:34:57):
Ronnie, you want to weigh in. Good morning, Ronnie, Good
morning guys.

Speaker 15 (02:35:01):
I'd normally like to get in earlier, but these late
night games, man, they screw up my schedule big time.
And what does the same for y'all? So I'm not complaining.
Two comments I want to make sparking. A couple of
weeks ago, made a comment on the broadcast that the
major leagues had reached a point where they had already

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used more pitchers this year than they had in the
entire twenty fourteen season. So it's just I don't know
where it's going. I don't know where it's going with
the pitching. I mean, there's injuries all over the place,
but I don't know where it's going with pitching and
injuries and how they're approached and what's going on. And
also my last thought is, I is Victor Kartini signed

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beyond this year? And if not, do it now. He's
got to be considered as the MVP of this team
for what he does and him or Dubon because Dubon's
contributed when you don't think he's going to do something
he does and they wouldn't be able to do it
without carrotaining no argument here.

Speaker 6 (02:36:05):
Appreciate the call. As far as next year goes. He
is an unrestricted free agent.

Speaker 1 (02:36:10):
So he is. That's got to be a priority.

Speaker 6 (02:36:14):
I mean, I'm with Ronnie on this because you know,
having been in a similar situation in Atlanta when you
had Travis Darnelt and Sean Murphy and they decided to
up Darnaut in the middle of the season, you need
to do the same thing here because just like that
dynamic work there, it's working overtime here.

Speaker 10 (02:36:31):
Right.

Speaker 7 (02:36:32):
If I said there's a dozen teams he could start
for a catcher, would you disagree with me?

Speaker 1 (02:36:37):
I would? I would say that that's the whole number. Yeah, yeah, agreed.

Speaker 7 (02:36:41):
Is there a team that's got a better, more productive
backup that is that is counted upon more than this team.
I mean, name one that did it jumps out at you.

Speaker 1 (02:36:54):
No, I can't think of any.

Speaker 7 (02:36:55):
I mean because You's are already loaded with some Versutino,
They're they're loaded with some play talking about he's the
best starter, I'm just saying, when you talk about a
guy that minimum of a dozen other places if he
was there. Matter of fact, if as an unrestricted free agent,
his price tag should go up, there's there's got to
be somebody out there that's saying we want him as

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our starting catcher next year because he can play first base,
he can DH, he can catch, there's some leadership, he's
he's got great handle on the bat. I'm with Ronnie,
and I'm with you, and now you know how I
feel about I've been saying it for months that this
dude to me that if you want to invest in
you know that you got the long term thoughts for
jan or d Is. If it was like a veteran

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verus veteran in one both were going to be unrestricted
free agents, you would be playing Kartini on a regular basis.
I think he's invaluable to this team.

Speaker 6 (02:37:45):
Well, I mean it's you know, for the struggles we
talked about with Jiner in the last segment. I mean,
that's what's you know, needing, That's why you need him
to play more right now. But I think the other
part of it too is what do you have in
Walker Yannick. I mean, he's somebody that started to swing
the bat a little bit better at the minor league level.
So is that you're catcher of the future at that point,
Like this off season and the way you handle Victor

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Karattini is going to show you exactly what they think
about their catcher position, if they're comfortable with Jiner or
if they're not and just waiting until Yannick can get here.

Speaker 7 (02:38:14):
Well, if you recall when he took over, when Corey
Lee was supposed to be the future and Dana Brown
said on this show, Jiner Diaz is our future catcher.

Speaker 1 (02:38:22):
It sure gives you some leeway.

Speaker 7 (02:38:23):
And let's forget Salazars on this roster, correct, So you
get catchers for the future. It gives you the leeway
to move somebody if you need him for an asset
at this trade deadliner down the road. But I think
is going to have a really good career. But sometimes
when you're going through it, you need a veteran there
or a guy who just gets it. And Victor Karattini
is a important keep this offseason and he will be

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important to the success of this team the rest of
this year.

Speaker 6 (02:38:51):
You can have a lot of other people in that
line fighting you with elbows and everything else to try to.

Speaker 7 (02:38:55):
Get him, because somebody's going to pay him like a starter.
The question is, well, the Astros tech that because he's
really good.

Speaker 1 (02:39:01):
You're gonna have somebody to play with too. So we'll
see if they do.

Speaker 6 (02:39:04):
Appreciate everybody who weighed in, all of you who are
able to get in those of you who weren't, apologize
to get to you next time. But he's Sean Triple,
Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews, The Matt Thomas Show with Ross
coming up next. They will talk to you in twenty hours.
I'll talk to you all next week.