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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc Troupe's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury, Dan Matthews.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Curve ball, and that's whack down the right field line, slicing.
Will it stay fair and show sure well by a
foot and go into the corner Walker getting the way
from Tony Paris Chico around third. Here's the relay to
the plate. On the hop the slide. Walker beats the
tag RBI double for Cam Smith and the Astros lead
one and nothing. Walker just in ahead of Adam's tag.

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On the relay from Garcia, here's the one.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
He belts this when the right center fields pretty deep lyle.

Speaker 6 (00:54):
Going back and she's gone gersup.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
He belts it the right center field into the Astros
bullpen and it's a two two ball game on his
fourteenth jack in the season.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
First pitch and Humble grounds it up the middle and
through for a base hit Walker around third. He will
come home and score in the third base Go Smith Cooper.
Humble comes through in the pinch and the Astros lead
three to two. Middle end field back corner infielders are
in first pitch, I'll two of the smacks it up
the middle and in a center for a base hit.
Dubon scores on the third goes with gim and the

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Astros get some insurance.

Speaker 6 (01:35):
Up four to two.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Jose Altuve picks up his fifty fourth run batted in
first pitch and Walker lines it past the leaping house
and in the left field.

Speaker 6 (01:44):
That scores.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
With Gham Tremel tearing around third, he'll score without a throw.

Speaker 6 (01:49):
Christian Walker drives.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
In two and the Astros augment their lead once again.
Astros now lead six to two, to two to Garcia
slaying in a foul tip held on to by Das
and that is the ballgame. Josh Hater strikes out the
side of the ninth and the Astros in their five
game losing streak, defeating the National seven to four, even

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up this three game series at a game a piece.

Speaker 7 (02:17):
How about that that sounds a lot better than the
last five games it sounded. And with that we say
away we go in good morning here Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety a Western Wednesday edition of the show,
and Sean as we just heard the collection of calls
right there by, Robert Ford, Steve Sparks, also two and

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on the call last night, And did you notice the
three names that we heard a lot of during those
highlights ose Al Tuove, Christian Walker, Jiner Diaz. I mean,
it's almost kind of like, if those guys hit, this
team has a good chance to win.

Speaker 6 (02:58):
Isn't it what we talked about good morning to be
with your Triple League to talk to you guys. Isn't
it a novel concept that win the middle of your
order and guys that you expect we just to We
talked about it yesterday for a half hour, talking about
the guys that the guys you expect to elevate, you
need to elevate. It can't just be the other guys.
At some point in time, you're O Taani's and maximunth season,

(03:20):
Mookie Betts got a play, right, your Machado Xander Bogart's
group has to play well. That they have to, you know,
Red Sox, you're Bregman's. They've got to play great baseball,
and then you got to get pitching well. Last night
looked more like, even though the lineup is still nowhere
near where you want it, the guys that you expect
to hit hit and you win and you didn't get

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along outing from from starting pitching. Yeah, I mean that's
you'd like more, but it was it was workmanlike, I
guess is the best way for me to describe it.
But you score over five runs, you got a chance, right,
you got a chance to win games, and Fromber and
Hunter Brown and I'm sure we'll get to Fromber today.

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But you know they like that. It's it's it and
you almost have to say, it's almost like you get
lulled to sleep.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Now.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
I don't know what the splits are between runs scored
for Fromber Hunter Brown as compared to the other cats, right,
but what what it looks like. It's almost like you
have to set your mind and say, okay, when those
two pitch, I have to treat Fromber like it's a
seventh starter getting his second chance, the second start, and
we got to we got to elevate him. We got

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to give him some great support. I think it. Dude.
I'm telling you. You get on teams and I've done,
We've I've been on team. We had such a good
defense that you're like, we really don't need to score
a lot, get the first one to twenty wins. So
you're almost your mindset almost settles you in. I'm not
saying they're like that, but it is easy to get
to a point where you're like, hell, if we get

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fromber three, we're winning, and then all of a sudden
you want to do a good pitcher who gets you
one and or two ball game over right? So yeah,
but it always looks nice. It's always nice to come
in here when you say that cat, that cat, and
that cat took care of their business, and then the
rest falls into place. It can't be the other way
all the time, where you're a titter. Your seventh hitter

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and your leadoff once in a while are the ones
that spark and the rest of the guys you're just
kind of you're pulling them along. That's great once in
a while, but the norm has to be our best
players got to pull along the guys that in some
cases should not be here. Doesn't mean they're not playing hard,
you know, but they they in a normal setting would
not they'd either be coming off the bench, or they

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wouldn't be playing, or they'd be playing in Triple A
or somewhere else. So yes, it's always nice when you
go to bed and you're thinking, okay, that box score
is gonna look a little bit better, and guys that
needed to hit did and they didn't play their best baseball,
but they did enough offensively to protect less than five
inning outing and then the bullpen, for the most part, does.

Speaker 7 (05:59):
Their gig for the four and two thirds that Alexander
went last night's I mean, there were a couple of
decisions in that game where Joe Aspota, man, he's putting
them in the wheelbarrow on this. I mean it is
the decision with Garcia, the guy who got you earlier
with the two run homer, to go to the bullpen
and get Bennett Susa without fully knowing who your start,

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which I'm sure Joe Spotta knew who was gonna start
this game today, but you're going with Ryan Gusto, so
it means you're probably gonna need a little bit more
of your bullpen, but you're able to get an inning
and a third out of Susa, an inning out of
Brian King, an inning out of Brian to bray you,
and then Josh Hader looking like Josh Hader has in
save situations for all but one time this year, where

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he got beat on a pop up to left, and
then the decision in the fifth, which was the one
that swung the momentum for you of deciding we're gonna
go ahead and pinch hit for Jacob Belton. Here, we're
gonna go with Cooper Hummel. Then you get their manager
coming out of the bullet's coming out of the dugout,
going to the bullpen, switching him over to the left side,

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and it still works out. But Joe Aspota managing this
game with a little bit of urgency and saying, hey,
this losing streak thing, we can't keep doing this if
we if we're gonna end up exactly where we want
to be when it's all said and done.

Speaker 6 (07:17):
Yeah, I know that when we say you get hell healthy,
it gets easier, does it? Does it supposed to? But
will it? So you have to And I like the
sense of urgency, even if it's just for the feel
good feeling of beating you. You're not. You can't lose
six in a row to the two teams that did.

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They have, like I said, there's respect because there are
pieces to both of those teams. They've got some good pieces.
The Oakland A's dude, there's if I said to you today,
you could pluck a lot of players across the league.
Isn't there four or so that you'd like from the a's.

Speaker 7 (07:50):
Well, I mean there's rumors that the Astros might be
looking at one of those a's.

Speaker 6 (07:55):
I mean, I can I want to show. I want Wilson.
I made the all start teams in the home run derby.
It's a rooker. I definitely want Kurts. I want I mean,
I'm talking about if I could happen.

Speaker 7 (08:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
Yeah. If you're saying, okay, it's free, go pluck whoever
you want with the roster, I want Mason Mill. I
mean that's about four or five guys that I'm like
minimum that you say, oh, can really help them, well, yes,
and could starve for some teams. And you look, you
say they're doing that with this. Imagine if they had
this lineup and they were so. Yeah, But you still
can't just record wise the overall the pieces aren't as

(08:31):
good as the you know, the pieces are better than
the sum. Right when it comes to Oakland, this team's
got a lot of great players that are hurt. But
we can't just assume that all of sudden you're gonna
come back in. You Ordon's hitting three fifty and the
pain is going to be giving you MVP. We're hoping,
and you're prepared for it because the season was going well.
But what happens if in fact that isn't the case,

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and then you've got to continue to rely on these guys,
So Joe spot his urgency and not to go in thinking,
you know what, we're gonna get by with it, we'll
be fine. It's important because you know what, you're fortunate
you gained a game on both last night and that
and I don't care who you play. Now they become
precious because you don't want your season coming down to, hey,
you got a two game lead with with eight games

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to go, or you know, six games to go or
nine games to go, and the schedule says this, this, this,
and this. They're hot, you're not. And now you've got
to make sure you can't rest them and you got
to play through and through and then the playoffs starts.
So yeah, I do. I like the sense of urgency
and I'm I'm big on I'll say it again and
again and again again. You can't win golf tournaments boguing

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or parring the easy holes, the par fives. You just
can't and the last handful of games they've bogied and
double buggie last night may not have been a birdie
on a par five, but they parted the par three
last night, I mean they put them. Say it's been
hard on them, even though the par three is usually
for me is a two hundred and twenty two yard
long par three with surrounded by bunkers. That's playing the

(09:59):
Dog or the Yankees or the Toronto whoever, the Detroit
that's who that is. But last the way they've been playing,
I'm sure at times some of these teams look like
the Nart supposed to who look like the Dodgers the
way they're playing, because hell, the Oakland A's look like
World Series champions against the Astros. So you won and
you got it, but you didn't make bogie on a

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par five or you were able to parl hard par three,
which in turn gives you a stroke on the field, right,
And they gained a game last night and didn't play
their best, but got into the act with more runs.
Hopefully that springboards them to get this thing going, because
when they go on the road, it's gonna be a
little more difficult. Regardless and truth of the matter is
the way they've played in a couple series. You can't

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rule out then in Miami that they're gonna have some
I mean, who the hell knows, right, and Boston will
be Boston. So I liked their urgency and that was
a win that I'm sure a lot of people it's
a Tuesday they're playing Washington companies like ho hum, well,
they're hard to come by even in one hundred and
sixty two.

Speaker 7 (10:58):
Game season, over thirty five thousand fans. The game last
night it was Harry Potter night.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
Rhoo. So I mean a lot of people out right,
still good Tuesday night crowd, no doubt Tuesday crowd in
Washington if that's a Tuesday night maybe during school season
and there's no you know it's not Harry Potter, dight.
Maybe you don't get that that much, but it shows
you how this crowd's invested in and this invested in

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Harry Potter, but invested just as much more in the
Astros obviously, And it was it was a good win
at home that they needed and they need more of
that and have to go get this one today before
the head on the road.

Speaker 7 (11:34):
Yeah, you'd like to get some moment and you'd like
to close out the month on a high note. I mean,
especially a month that's been incredibly up and down. It
started off great, it's been awful in the middle, and
you'd at least like to say, all right, now, we're
heading into the second to last full month of the
regular season, so you are hoping that you can put
everything together for this one today. We're also a day

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and a half away from the MLB trade deadline tomorrow
afternoon four o'clock local time is when it's going on
to have come and gone. By the way, Dana Brown
gonna join us at nine fifteen this morning, usually joins
us at nine thirty on Wednesdays. Well today it's gonna
be nine to fifteen, so we got a lot to
get to with him, and we also want to get
you involved on the show. Someone three two one two

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five seven ninety against seOne three two one two five
seven ninety. Speaking of potential new astros that could be
out there, one name in particular a huge surprise for
me and we'll talk about it next. Right here, It
is the Sean Salisbury Show on a Western Wednesday, Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
From H Town.

Speaker 8 (12:38):
This is a.

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For H Town This is Houston six, This is Sports
Talk seven nights, because right now.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
You see letton Houston right now.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Going back to Sean Salisbury, Toby Keith did it for us?

Speaker 6 (12:55):
Alright, Pete Man exactly. We missed that guy every single bit.
Did that suck? Yes? And we're going on what a year?

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah? Year?

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Did we were we like right at or close to
the anniversary?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (13:06):
It was. It was before the football season. I do
remember that it's right around this time, correct, maybe summertime
of twenty twenty four. Let's see, I uh, what a
loss man. I got a couple buddies in February of
last year. Okay, so I got a February twenty four, Yeah,
February a little over a year. Gosh, it goes fast
because it feels like it's just still so fresh and real.

(13:27):
I got a couple buddies that are really good friends
of his that go, Yeah, he is a big old
event out at his house and you know, we're and
they just love him. And I was fortunate to meet
him one time, was Roger Clements and it was you know,
you know, fift that year. He's like a bigger than
life guy. You know what I'm saying, and he's a
big dude too. Yeah, just as gracious and as good
as guy as you can imagine, which doesn't shock you

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when it comes to those country singers and they're giving
he just a good dude and what a bummer. It
doesn't matter how famous or richie are. When something hits
and you can't stop it. It's crazy but impactful man,
and still and will be for a long time regardless,
because not only his music, but he left an indelible
mark on a lot of people.

Speaker 7 (14:05):
I'd say there's three groups of either entertainers or athletes
that are You meet them and you know that they're
going to be great hockey players.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
No question. They'll show up like I said they'll they'll
they'll get in a fight the night before on the ice,
lose to teeth, and beat your charity event the next day.

Speaker 7 (14:20):
I would say that fighters are the same in all categories. Yeah,
we have boxers, yeah, and country singers, I would say,
and O would even to a certain point. I mean
it's kind of gotten more mainstream over the years, but
NASCAR drivers, So.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
I was just about to tell you that they're the
same that they kind of fall under the they get
it so they'll, like I said, they'll go to a
they'll have something, they'll go to a race, and then
all of a sudden, somebody, an entertainer, somebody will throw
a charity concert and they're exhausted, but they'll still be there.
And it's good to put it this way. Those people
who they don't have to preach their unselfish or they're

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showing up an event, they just do. They just show
up and of the best time I'm gonna be. You
don't have to tell me twice at mid date. I'm
showing up and it's a it's a good thing. Toby
Keith has always felt to me like he's that guy
and uh, you know, go man, I'll tell you what
the Good Lord is and I mean this respectful and affectionate,

(15:17):
trust me, no sacrilege. Here is the Good Lord's ballhogging.
He's he's he's he That's what I'm saying. He said, Hey,
you've served something, you done what you needed to do,
served your time. Well here making a difference. Come on
up here, we got some stuff we need up here
to a welcoming committee. I mean, you start to think
over just in the last eighteen months, it's like you.

(15:39):
You take a lot of good ones, So hold up
a little while we have a little gap where we
don't have to give up somebody. Yeah yeah, you can't
ty pribacely smile and say I understand, but you guys
are gonna be just fine. But I get that feeling.
He's like, I needed a few, We got a lot
of good ones. I needed a few more. We need
to refresh our. They need to refresh their roster. And uh,

(16:01):
unfortunately we refreshed the roster. But you know, you sit
down here, you're like damn again. Hopefully the good Lord says, okay,
we're good for a while now, you know, and that
you guys enjoy all. Come see in a handful of years,
it's actions, not spoken, right, Like that's one of those
like go see one hundred and five year olds. Yeah right, yeah,
leave our fifty somethings a low just for dow good Lord,

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there you go. That's right.

Speaker 7 (16:24):
Look, you know you've been here, you know long enough,
and you know it's gotten to a certain point where
quality of life isn't as much.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
I mean, you know, look, got some good young ones
up there too, some good kids up there that are
going to add some smiles to faces, unfortunately for us
down here. But yeah, yeah, the ball hogging a little bit,
but you know what he's teaching. I ain't arguing with that.
That guy that's the big dog. So whatever he decides
he wants to do. But we've had some, we've had
lost some good ones, but very it's what they're saying

(16:52):
about you when you're alive is one thing, and what
they say about you when you're not around is another.
And if they're both good and they both match, you've
lived pretty good life.

Speaker 7 (17:01):
I would say if you go two for two in
those categories, I think that you probably check the right
box there.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
And maybe that's why it's time. Maybe they maybe that's
why it's I'm a big believer in that. I really am.
I'm a big believer in when you know it's kind
of hey, why this happened.

Speaker 7 (17:16):
It's like, you know what, man, they did everything they
were supposed to do here.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
Yeah, and the fulfill when they fulfilled what he wanted
him to fulfill, and now got to go do some
other things. And I know that sounds all religion at
six twenty, but I do feel that way. And the
more goes on and the more you start to think
about your own mortality. Those those things are real because
I can't imagine having that empty feeling of what's next.

(17:41):
Right for when you lose somebody, Man, if you didn't
think you were going to be with them again or
see hi again, it'll be hard. Can you imagine that
feeling of you just kind of go and you're in
the ground and it's done. And I think about those things,
So you're thinking, man, it is you know when you
when you think about recently, what's happened un or Ryan Sandberg?
The most recent you know, is he up there hanging

(18:04):
out with some of his good buddies and former teammates
that have passed away. I think, then, I hope that
that's the whole k. I have faith and belief that
that is. And when they when when it's time to go,
they've impacted down here enough and they're needed somewhere else.
It's the only way I can think about it, because
otherwise you'd lose your mind. Here's another one too.

Speaker 7 (18:24):
I think that some people know, like even if they
don't have a terminal illness or anything like that. Like
I heard a story of a husband and wife that
the week before they had passed away in a car accident.
They just happened to get their last will and testament done.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
Like they like.

Speaker 7 (18:40):
It was almost kind of like, I don't know if
it was at the front of their mind. I mean,
clearly I don't think it was, but that there was
something enough in the atmosphere, something enough of the universe
to tell them, hey, you need to get this.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
Very smart you're in that's I think that's called being
in touch and being in tune. And anytime you tell
let me tell you one of the hardest things to
do is get somebody a couple of things. If you're selling,
it is to tell somebody, hey, man, go get your
will done. You heard Neon Sanders talk about It's like,
that's that's the real Come to Jesus. You're like, even
though you may live one hundred forty more years, even

(19:13):
if you're thirty now, you know, thanks change whatever it is.
I'm just saying, it's like, you're right, you're right, and
it's like, damn, that's a little too real. Even if
you're living fifty more years, I need to do it.
And I hope I live forty more years or whatever.
You know, you're healthy and doing the right thing, but
it is. And then when you go to somebody, if
you I think life insurance, folks, that's all that can

(19:33):
be a hard sell too. At thirty, nobody thinks they're
ever dying, right, you know what I'm saying words to
the point where you're like, hey, man, buy some life
insurs because immediately you're saying, what do you mean? Oh yeah,
and your plots included in there to cover the feuar.
It's like, well, what I'm paying for my death and
life insurance and autica. But it's hard now, it's unselfish
and it's a mature thing to do. But it's almost like,

(19:55):
don'tn't talk to me about that yet. Talk to me
when I'm like a year away, when I'm a hundred,
then we can do it. Well, no, that's not the
way this thing works. But there's things that make you
go hm, like in your case, your age, the word retirement.
You're like, oh, hell no, you know what I'm saying.
Even me, I'm like, no, I'm not ready to retire. Right.
But and for some they love it, but that can
also be a cuss word, like no, no, I got

(20:17):
a lot of it, I got a lot of living
there's some things I want to accomplish. And it's the
same thing there when you mentioned, like, hey man, you
what about your life insurance? You feel like you're willing
to know your trust and will I'm living forty more years.
I'll see in twenty five. Sell it to me then, like, no,
be more responsible. But you're right. I do think people
have a certain intuition that they just they don't feel

(20:39):
know what's smite. They they just do. And that doesn't
mean that those that don't aren't in tune because sometimes
when those things inner in your mind, good over, you're like,
I just get it. I don't want to even think
about that stuff. So yeah, man, we just we've lost
too many good ones recently, and we got a lot
of good ones. But like I always say, it's much
easier to be kind than it is be a prick.

Speaker 7 (21:01):
What's Ozzy Osbourne? Somebody had put out I guess it.

Speaker 6 (21:04):
Was his procession by the way to meet the interrupt
starts at seven am this morning.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
Yeah, and he had in his autobiography I Am Ozzy
what he wanted on his headstone. Ozzy Osbourne born nineteen
forty eight died whenever he bit the head off a.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
Bat classic, right, I mean, just like and he didn't
want people the cinerative to celebrate it. I mean, and it's.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
Hard to want a bunch of people crying and doing
all of that.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
Yeah, well, doesn't he feel like his life was lived?
Do you think he got cheated in life?

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (21:35):
No, he did not, right, And I think also the
Good Lord said, hey, fulfilled all those Yeah. Now Ozzie
and him, I'm sure gonna have some real good conversations.
Oh yeah, dude, welcome. You made a difference with man
in life. Sometimes I had a babyshit your you know
what I'm saying, like, it's good to have you, but
good gracious man, a lot of pressure on me. I
know I'm weird, but I visualized those conversations.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
Let's let's go to the next page. The Alamo. Let's
talk about that one.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Dude.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
I'm thinking, I've be just thinking my case. You know,
people are looking families like my buddies. Dude, you you're
a watch out. You're going to heaven. But man, a
lot that's gonna be an interesting conversation. And you know,
they say, and you've seen movies where they open up
the file box and they go through, you know, pull
out the old library file where you'd have to go
through the card catalog to find your book. They pull
it out and here's your shelf, Sean. He pulls it

(22:25):
out and said, okay, Number one is oh you remember
when you were in college? Do you have to remind
me of that? And they throw it up with it.
It's like, you know, remember when you said this. It's like,
I'm sure the good Lords not good good to have
you here, dude, Babysitting you was one of my toughest asks.
I've already prepared for that concon my bad. I got you.

(22:47):
I tried to try to live right, but yeah, you
know those ones were and I'm sure Ozzy Osbourne in
a different way, but you know what I'm saying, were
the good Lord's got to have a sense of humor, like, yeah,
we got you here, and I know it took some
stumbles in man, in life. We had to pull you
by the arm to get you here. But now that
you hear, what were you thinking on one hundred? You know,
June fifteenth with Motley Crue at the Pool Dance, Like

(23:10):
what happened there? Yeah? Remember that post concert bus ride
you guys had Now, what in the world was you
were you thinking, dude, I had to save you from
a whole bunch that night, you know, I just those
convers if you think about it like that, you put
a smile on your face.

Speaker 7 (23:24):
Right, So the Lord goes Gruden's quarterback camp with it
with the film study right there on this throw ray.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
Here, where are we going with this? I don't see
a hot route, right, yeah, the Good Lord to him
or the Good Lord Pipe and Saint John even you
read that one wrong, you know I'm saying. So, I
don't know. We uh, but we're we're blessed. And you
know what, we'll take a few wins along the way
too with the Astros. And last night was big.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
That was that was for sure, seven to four winners
last night there. So gonna go for a series win
today against the Nationals.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Noon.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
Astros on deck coming your way. Jeremy Paniam also able
to get some work in last night. So well we'll
talk about that. Texan's gonna get back out on the
practice field for training camp this morning.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
They're gonna be off tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (24:06):
Then they're gonna practice the next couple of days and
then they shuttle out to West Virginia Greenbrier to be
able to beat the heat, which boy, I can't blame
them with that one.

Speaker 6 (24:15):
These last two days the dude after and it's been
sweltering and it's been suffocating, right, that's part of it, man,
But it sucks. But now they're headed to a place
and that you got to stay focused of that resort.
Greenbrier is one of the old, all time old school classics.
I had a great conversation with you know, Jerry West
to live there. Yeah, the great g I mean and

(24:35):
like an aviage, an avid golfer and competitor, right, but
live there, and I mean the beauty of that resort
and stuff. They're they're there, that's there. They're truly country club.
But although on the field they'll get their business done.
That is like, oh, you're kidding me. We get to
go to the Greenbriar and yeah, that's a good gig.
And it's West Virginia, I believe it is, right, Yeah,
and that's Jerry West sometime when. But so yeah, good

(24:57):
on him, and good on the you get their wits
about him, get their legs under Nathan. That's a good gig.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
That's gonna be one of those the meetings running along. Hey,
you know, coach, how much longer are we going with this?
I mean I'm going off in thirty minutes off number one.

Speaker 6 (25:11):
Yeah, and then I got a spa treat but afterwards, right, yeah,
one of the great wellness spas on the planet.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
And then you know, a dinner at one of those
spots there at the clubhouse where you gotta wear a jacket.

Speaker 6 (25:21):
Perhaps perhaps you feel more comfortable for this right exactly
while you got your golf shirt ong. And oh by
the way, after that, I'm gonna go, you know, I'm
gonna go do a little U pull and you know,
took my little skin shoot and then get after it.
So a lot of good things there, but I'm sure
that it is. I'm sure Demiko's reminding we got a
business trip ahead of us. So there you go. So

(25:43):
the Texan's gonna beat the heat. Good for them on that.

Speaker 7 (25:46):
Speaking of the Astros, like we said the trade rumors,
they are fast and furious. And don't forget Dana Brown
gonna join us nine fifteen this morning here on this show,
so got all that much more.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
You can join us too.

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And live out there for the Seawan Salisbury show continues.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
Sean.

Speaker 7 (29:01):
As you know, I was watching TK and Blumber on
Space City Home Network and they had mentioned it and
I'm like, oh my god, no way, you got hit again.
Then you go see the video glancing blow. It was
one of those like where it glanced off his elbow
guard and you had to turn around to the umpire
to be like hey, got me right.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yeah, that's a good thing. No where, it's you didn't
break a thumb or something? Right, yeah, hey got oh
let me see okay good? So yeah, man, I uh.
The last thing, you know, if you're talking about like
the KRM is not the right word, but what's owed
to your like when you've been through somethings like okay,
you got a couple of w's here would be great.

(29:37):
And I'm not even just talking about the wind column.
It's the the the injury thing. I believe they've used
the tub enough, so no more. You know what I'm saying.
As they start to come back, don't don't. It's not
I give you one back healthy and another one gets hurt. Right, Listen,
you've used a lot of time and energy. Matter of fact,

(29:58):
you have an all star team sitting in the training
room when they're all there, you know, not literally because
they're all over the place. We had half of those
guys sitting in the training room. Hey, way, what's up, Christian?
Not much? How you doing? I'm good? Hey, Walter, great job,
great job of doing your thing. Hey, Lewis, how you doing?
Some can call Louis. I call him Lewis. Lou Garcia.

(30:20):
You know, Hey, I'm doing good. Hey JP, you good? Yeah,
you'red on. It's been a while. How are you? And
they're all sitting there ankles, elbows, arms, full body in
their plunge pool after they just got treatments like look around, damn,
this team in here can make the playoffs. Oh yeah,
we got this guy and I know this guy and

(30:40):
then this guy. So let's get to the point where
the you know how you like check off. I've done
enough of this. Let me move on to something else. Enough,
no more sore rib Let it be. And the truth is,
and Steve Sparks made a really good point Monday, and
it was just kind of a passing thing. Imagine you
know what it's going to be like, you know when

(31:02):
and I'm paraphrasing using my words, but when that cavalry comes,
get him in there. That they're getting healthy at the
right you want health at this point in time, down
to stretch right, And while other teams may be going
through it, they've done been through it. So if they
really do get healthy, and this is what they get
to run with the rest of the season when they
get their guys back for the most part, Now, who

(31:23):
the hell knows about Paradus, and who the heck knows
about Myers. But if they're able to get pretty healthy
and they're fresh, that that could end up being a
really good thing where it gives them that extra kick
coming around the clubhouse turn where they got to kick
in and win by eight lengths right where you're you're
sitting in the seven trying to sift through the crowd,
and when you're on the rail right, bam, bam bam,

(31:44):
find your way, and then you got kick because you
got a little extra. So while the bummer has been
what they've got, they've been able to still stay there
four games in front. I've been able to stay in
this position through a lot of stuff. Now, if all
of a sudden they get him back and they still
have a lead, and you're like, damn, how did that
horse get off the rail? There's no frigging way, and
they were seven horses back, and then they're able to

(32:05):
not only win, but extend the lead because when everybody
else is a little tired and they're getting banged up,
the Astro has been through four thousand of those, and
I was looking through the league, but and I know this,
sometimes we can feel sorry for herself eighteen nineteen. Guys
a little much. But you start to look at staffs
and people, the Dodgers and other teams. There's been a
lot of teams that have gone through losing some pretty

(32:28):
damn good players. This year it just happened to be
heightened because it's not just been losing a player, it's
been losing players on your roster, and a lot of them.
There's a lot going through it. To be able to
sustain and then deal with that while you're looking down
and saying that life is coming at the end of
the tunnel, that dude, they will be ready. That's got
to be a good thing because when other teams are

(32:50):
scrambling around saying, man, we're shot, you're going to start
to get some fresh bodies back. And it's not a
fresh body that's a tweener. You're getting a ninety a
Christian Javier who a front line starter when he's good.
You're getting a top ten hitter in baseball when he's
healthy and playing in yord On. So you start to
think about what comes, what's coming. It's not oh man,
they're backup second base, got a hammy, you're ass it's starter.

(33:16):
All Star, MVP candidate, best player on the team this year.
I mean you start to look around, it's a lot
of dudes, and so when they get it back, he
could end up being I hate to say this, I
don't let the blessing in disguise stuff, but it's not
a disguise. You've been through a lot, as a lot
of teams have, maybe this team more than others. But
when the horse has come back, this isn't Man, can

(33:37):
you get that person out of the we're trying to
break that horse. These are horse, These are full grown.
Everybody wants to buy that horse, and who doesn't want
Jordon Alvarez in a lineup? Right, It's a good thing
to have. As long as they come back healthy and
hit the ground running, it'll be. It's gonna be, And
there's got to be that boost of energy, knowing that

(33:59):
with fifty or whatever, whenever they come back to go
at different times, it's like, oh, you know that feeling
when you get like a ten minute power and at
you're exhausted and you think I got to sleep three hours,
you get to sleep twelve minutes. All a sudden you
wake up. It's like, damn, where did that come? From now.
That's what this is going to be if they come
back right where, it's that boost of energy while everybody
else is dragging ass. You're like dragon ass, dude. Eight

(34:23):
of our big time players are back. They don't they
don't have time to drag as they're raying. You start playing.
This is their season, so that can be a good thing.
That's the only way I can look at it. Or
you'll beat your head against the wall with injuries hoping
that another one doesn't happen. It's their t shot. That's
exactly with a and you're hitting seventy eight percent of
your fairways, which is a lot on the PGA Tour.

(34:44):
By the way, again, go see Stick. I'm just telling
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up and watch it. Owen Wilson's role in Stick is phenomenal.
It's a classic show golf, fun, comedy, drama, It's a
little bit of everything. Freaking love it. But yes, that's
exactly right. If you're a great driver of the golf,
well that's what you're getting come back. You're going to

(35:05):
be in the short grass when they get back. Now,
can you make a putt meeting? Can you score eight
runs as opposed to two and can you get people
out when this man can hater close it out? So
face that a lot of there's a lot of parallels
when you talk about other sports to baseball and golf especially,
and I would imagine that there's still a run in
them if they get healthy when one of those twelve

(35:27):
to fifteen type runs. Yeah, we'll get to the trade
rumors too.

Speaker 7 (35:30):
As I mentioned, I mean some of the possible enforcements
that could be on their way because they're not reinforcement.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
I'm curious about who you're talking about too. I think
I may have an idea, but I'm sure people want
to know who you're talking about when you say this
one shocked you.

Speaker 7 (35:42):
It's a possibility. Yeah, we'll definitely get into that. Also,
you know, just a couple of things we saw from
a last night's game. All of that you want to
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Speaker 7 (38:20):
And you know, Brian at Brahu's outing last night was
one that I was not overly concerned Sean because you
look at it, his real lack of consistency of being
used because well, let's just call it what it is
heading into the All Star Break. Coming out of the
All Star Break, aside from those four games, the final
one in Seattle and then the three in Arizona, he

(38:43):
hadn't done a bunch of winning. He hadn't done a
bunch of being in high leverage situations. And that's what
I saw last night out of him. I saw a
lot of rust out of a bray when he came
out of the bullpen.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
Yeah, which is not like him. But you survive and
get going. Yeah, I'm not. Are you worried about I'm
going forward? No, I'm not either. I actually just think
it's a matter of putting a little w D forty
on it, you know what I mean, and get it rolling.
One thing though here, it's here's the irony. You're talking
about rust work and then what also we're concerned about. Oh,
that's what's right. So the slope of I gotta get

(39:16):
him work, but I don't want to. I don't want
to wear him out. But I also don't want it
where he has to. He feels like the Tin Man
and Wizard of oz Or. He's got to can he
put more done? But if the w D forty works,
I'll take that more than I will dead arm, won't
you say? So there's that part. Yeah, I would like that,
But I think we've seen enough body work to know

(39:37):
that that big fellow, when the eighth inn he comes around,
he's right, you're pretty good that you're going to get
the hater, which is usually a good thing. So I'm
not I'm not concerned about it. I just think it's
I'm with you a little bit of a let's just
stretch it out a little bit and let's get going.
You'll be all right.

Speaker 7 (39:53):
And then the hater in the house last night hard
to argue with his results. Three guys up, and they
all three went back to the bench without even he's
taking a step towards first base.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
Fantastic year by him. He has had a fantastic year.
And it's good because I assure you, and I'm not
telling you anything. You don't know, my man. When we
get to September, his performance in a game or two
is going to be the difference in moving on in

(40:22):
a series. It just is. And this guy that's pitching now,
he's he's he's become pretty much automatic, at least this year.
Right now, they're never what's he blown one save and
then had one where he lost right, gave up the
home run to lose game earlier. Yeah, he's been lights out.
He's listen, he's everything you want right now. In a way,

(40:43):
it closed again. And I know people complained about the
salary and going and gett him, but we came in
and Dan he knows. When the scene started, we said
you should expect more from him this year, and you
got it. Even though he got a lot of saves
last year, there were some up and down moments. This
looks like Milwaukee Padre. This looks like the guy that
were used to seeing and listen. Even in a year

(41:03):
last year where he was at his best all the time,
he was still pretty damn dominant. I'm not worried about
eight to nine, brother, I'm just not I'm over in truth,
you could use another arm. And I'm not overly worried
about the bullpen. I'm worried about a healthy starting pitching
and get me bats that drive the baseball.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
Speaking of arms, or even one in particular and interesting
one being floated out there.

Speaker 6 (41:25):
We'll discuss that. Your shocking one. It is, it is,
It is a little bit to me. Say just tell
me one thing. American League, nationally, National league. Okay, yeah,
so we.

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Speaker 7 (42:23):
They're gonna go for the series win this afternoon, Texans
back on the training camp practice field, and don't forget
Dana Brown gonna join us at nine fifteen this morning
here on the show, and speaking of Dana joining us,
I mean we've got now a little less than forty
eight hours before the trade deadline. I guess it's what

(42:43):
twenty four plus whatever it is four o'clock this afternoon,
so I guess that's thirty one hours until finally the
trade deadline comes to the office Central or five Eastern,
five Eastern, I believe.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
Okay, so then that would be, yeah, you're you're inside
of forty hours.

Speaker 7 (42:59):
I guess that's that's one of those that the A
team tomorrow. If you don't have remember that that twenty
four countdown clock, dent, dent, you know, like the noise
that it would make, you know, to let you know
that the hour has passed and now Jack is going
to be on to two to three am. At that point,
I would say that that's that's one of tomorrow that
Cole Thompson and the crew need to break out.

Speaker 6 (43:19):
It's it's it's always a good one to use, but
one that in.

Speaker 7 (43:23):
Particular I saw yesterday in terms of the rumors that
surprised me.

Speaker 6 (43:28):
Dylan sees of the Padres.

Speaker 7 (43:30):
Now, I know that starting pitcher was one of their
wish list items, but I mean we've heard Dana Brown
all along left handed bat, left handed bat, trying to
find that. I think that probably depending on what happens
with est Soak Perettis, it sounds like you're going to
even just say, hey, you know what, just a good
bat and one that we can plug in at third base.

(43:50):
That seems like one that we're going for. Saw one
out there about Nolan Aeronauto. Still, we'll see what happens
on that. That's a lot of pricing, But Cease is
one that kind of surprises me a little bit. And
that was Chandler Rome and Ken Rosenthal reporting that, which
if those guys are reporting it, then I would say
and dialed in. Yeah, very very and especially Chandler with

(44:10):
with what's happening with this team, he's he's very dialed then.

Speaker 6 (44:14):
Well, I'm just telling you that when Cease was with
the White Sox on this show, we were talking there
because at the last year or two he was there,
it was the constant trade guy. I wanted him then
and he was dominant and he still is. He's got
great stuff. Record doesn't reflect it right now. Dylan sees

(44:34):
can pitch, and in truth, he's a number one on
a lot of staffs. When he's going, he he is,
he's got, he got good stuff, he's got he can
pound a fastball, he's he's really good. And when he
has his mustache, he looks he's it even adds to it, right,
he looks like he belongs on Then yeah, the right,

(44:55):
but he, dude, he can ramp it. Now. Now I
want you to visualize a rotation that says fromber Hunter Brown, Dude,
if Dylan Ceese is your third starter, your staff's really
friggin good, and then you throw in if Javier and
Garcia make it back, there's your Eric. Yeah, what's he
doing with six man rotation? Well, we're going to go

(45:19):
from not enough to how are we getting all these
guys work? Hopefully hopefully. So if you pull pulled Dylan
Ceese off of this that I would friggin love it,
and people need to guard against Well, look at his
red We'll look at his w reck. So I don't
even know what it is right now. It wasn't good
for a while.

Speaker 7 (45:37):
I mean this, but he's saying the same thing about you.

Speaker 6 (45:41):
That's exactly, and then truth at this stage last year
with Kakuchi and at this stage of the career, for ce.
He is a better pitcher overall, I believe. Yet that's
not taking away nothing from way Kokuchi pitched here and
who's had a good career. Dylan sees can be a
dominant right hander in your rotation. And if he's your
number three, then you are. You're living right. So now

(46:03):
the questions would what's it gonna take to get him?
That that's the issue here. I'm a huge Dylancy's fan
and at the top of the list if if you
can get him, I would, Now, what are you gonna
have to mortgage to get him?

Speaker 7 (46:16):
Well, it's interesting you say that because I believe it
was a report by John Morosi of MLB dot Com
MLB TV that the Padres were looking for a left
fielder and or catcher in return. And yeah, I'm looking
at the report right now.

Speaker 6 (46:33):
What did I tell you about I would call about
our catchers if I was another team, I'm calling you
and say, which one of those cats are you willing
to part with?

Speaker 7 (46:42):
And the Padres really liked, I mean they really like.
I mean at least he used to be in their building,
the switch hitting one.

Speaker 6 (46:49):
Now I'm not saying I want to give him dot
misunderstand me I'm talking about. I'm from the Padres point
of view. As I've said, you look around the positions
and you say, Okay, what would another team want on
the current roster that's feasible. You ain't getting your on
I'm sorry, Payin is not going anywhere. Al Tuovey's untouchable.
Cam Smith, I would think is in that category because

(47:10):
of what you had to go through to get him,
And quite frankly, I think you got a a year
in and year out all star starter in right field.
When he finally learns how to play, he's just playing
on the fact that he's a monster skill set. He's
still learning pitching and how to play because he's supposed
to be over there in Sugarland swinging the battling fatigue.

(47:30):
That's exactly right, which kicks in because these guys have
never played this many games. Well, okay, so now we've
got that set. Okay, now who's available? So of all
the players, do you want Myers? He's injury, he's not
going where paradus you just got. So now you're down
to what Now start to go around, what's the most
valuable position on this team and the deepest position on

(47:52):
this team? With injuries. Bullpen maybe, but as an everyday play,
it's the catcher. Yiners put anel and has given you
production with power. This year it's hasn't been the same,
but he's gotten better. And Victor Carrotten's the best backup
catcher in baseball in my opinion, which tells me he's
a starter. If you're the Padres and I'm parting with

(48:15):
Dylan Ses, you're damn right, I'm inquiring about your catching position,
especially since it's a need for them. Okay, what do
we have more of? It would impact not cam Smith,
They would do that the Padres could use on a
daily basis. More Chas McCormick good player, or Victor Kattini
or Yan Daz Who would you want? I'm going with

(48:36):
either Kartini or Diaz. Yes, and maybe you get one
of the outfielders thrown in with Dylan Ceas or a
prospect outfielder what have you? Yeah? Or maybe dare I
say that it's a catcher from Sam Houston State in
the organization said we wouldn't part with that. Well, they
parted with Corey Lee for your DIA. So but when

(48:57):
you look at that, if you're the Padres, aren't you asking, Well,
we part with one of your catchers not named Salazar,
So I got three to choose from. I love your
prospect Roner's got a great future, and Victor Carrottini is
your best catcher right now when it comes to be
at the plate, who you trust the most because he's
been more consistent, So I would inquire. And now the

(49:18):
question is this team prepared to part with either what
they thought was there they've said is their future. And
Dana Brown said on the show about Jiner Dias, Victor
Carrottine has not been a pleasant surprise. He's been a
monster here. And then you've got, you know, prospect that
everybody's raving about. They played right up the street or
the interstate. So I'm anxious to see what they do.

(49:40):
But if I'm inquiring, I say, okay, who can I
get some no way? Maybe a catcher. I got to ask,
because they're they're they're pretty deep there when it comes
from here and in to the minor leagues, they're pretty
good well.

Speaker 7 (49:53):
And you know, another thing to consider with all of
this is Ken Rosenthal, who I mentioned, had this report
and we had a J. Presenski on with us yesterday
and I was watching, as I've mentioned, I watched Foul
Territory TV. Yep, you know, before I head into my
midday nap there back at the back of the house,
and he was asked by Perzenski. He's like, why would
the Padres trade guys when they're right in the middle

(50:14):
of this thing? And he goes, they would do it
for major league ready guys that can help them in return.

Speaker 6 (50:22):
That I believe that if you're the astros in it,
I think a spot on. I think you're gonna have
to part with not just probably you're gonna have to
part with somebody who's currently on your roster and not
a guy who's not somebody who's playing. And you know what,
you should have to part with that if Dylan ceases
the get because then the depthy roster would cease to exist.

(50:46):
Suit there there you go. So I do I do
think I would look, wouldn't you love to have him?

Speaker 8 (50:51):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (50:51):
Yeah, especially when he can proper Yeah?

Speaker 7 (50:54):
And then the guys that you mentioned that are coming
back where it's not as much exactly right, yeah, And
we don't need you to come back five six innings
right now, right, And if.

Speaker 6 (51:03):
You look to it and all of a sudden, And
also if you're like, oh, we think he's ready and
you have to wait another week, wait another week. So
we got you the whole time. So you plug Hill
and cease into the middle of the rotation because he
ain't one or two now, and a lot of rosters
he would be. But here we know where his spot is.
But what that does and all of a sudden, if
every Garcia and Javier and Arrogetty come back and m

(51:25):
Collors gets healthy. Now and remember the one that you
should have come back from the quickest, or you should,
you'd think a blister is going to heal eventually. Right,
It's hard for me to think that a blisters a
thirty day injury this day and age, I jump back, Yeah,
I don't know, but man, are you it's a little
second skin. Let's get this rolling. I'm not, but I
get it because you know that's spin rate, and I

(51:45):
understand the stress put on the you know, on the
finish and blisters and building up to it. I get it.
But you can you imagine, Okay, if all those guys
come back, now you got Well, we're going to strengthen
our bullpen. We didn't need to go out and get
a bullpen arm because Lance can give us an any
or two if we need him, and even longer relief.
And Spencer Raghetti if he does have to go back

(52:06):
to the bullpen and you're in a five man rotation
or Garcie, whoever it is, You're like, now we've just
lengthened that and they're fresh. Pretty good gig, pretty damn
good gig. Dylan Seas would be a great get man.
Dana said it numerous times pitching, pitching, pitching. It's one
of his favorite sayings. Can I be greedy? Sure? I
don't want to give up anything, and I want to
get Dylan c said, I want to get Suarez, but

(52:28):
I don't want to give up anything. That fair. I
wanted to give them to us for like the twenty
seventh prospect and for Hummeling.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
I like him.

Speaker 6 (52:39):
But to that fair, how can you say not of that?
Per there you go, Come on, man, let it just
let me just let me fantasize over that for a second.
Not the truth you're gonna have to give up something,
but that if you could get both of those guys. Now,
I know I'm living on fantasy world, but man, that
would be pretty cool with it. It definitely would. And power Pitcher,

(52:59):
power hit or that any nice Yeah, that might be
all about it.

Speaker 7 (53:02):
So we'll see if the astros are able to pull
off a move or moves here in the next few hours.
But yeah, a couple hours. Right from now, Dana Brown
going to join us.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Sean.

Speaker 6 (53:14):
Love is in the air, and in this case, right
here's in the air.

Speaker 7 (53:18):
Oh yeah, I'm I'm a little concerned about this one
for reasons that are selfish.

Speaker 6 (53:23):
Is it somebody that's got a particular set of skills?
I believe so I'm not. I'm actually couldn't be happier. Ah.
As a matter of fact, it got me in my fields.
And I'll tell you why as well. If you're going
to the place that I think you're going.

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(56:59):
time this part of the morning, we do it stros
seven four winners last night. Texan's gonna get back on
the practice field this morning. Shawn has I mentioned love
is in the air, especially as you mentioned for a
man with a particular set of skills and a woman
as well as Pamela Anderson and Liam Neesen officially dating

(57:22):
after working closely together in the Naked Gun reboots. This
coming from people and if you'll indulge me too, because
of a lot of the impersonations that I have, I
feel like that Liam is probably up there at the
top as one of my best I mean, every once
in a while Coach Gruden shows up and sometimes it's
not great like the one I gave earlier was about
to c minus, I would say, but for Liam. Quoted

(57:44):
in the People's Story with Pamela first off, Maddley in
love with her. She's terrific to work with. I can't
compliment her enough. I'll be honest with you know, Hugh Jigo,
and she just comes in to do the work. She's
funny and so easy to work with. And Pam I'm
all adding to as well. I'm not going to impersonate her.
The perfect gentleman brings out the best in you with respect, kindness,

(58:06):
depth of experience. Was an absolute, absolute honor to work
with them and both at the premiere for the Naked
Gun reboots with their sons in tow as well.

Speaker 6 (58:18):
And uh.

Speaker 7 (58:19):
They also were in You magazine, which I didn't even
know was a thing and you No, I'm me no,
yeah you yeah, Yeah, I'm me and I'm me yeah right,
you're you right and I'm me yeah and.

Speaker 6 (58:37):
Yeah for he you're right right, but you're you. I'm me,
You're me, well, I'm not you No, Yeah, I'm me
yeah right yeah you.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Y.

Speaker 6 (58:48):
We do this all day?

Speaker 8 (58:49):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (58:50):
Good? Like I said, this is a movie right out
of Chris Tucker and Jackie Chad. What are their rush hours?
Yeah you No, that's you right, I'm me no, no, no,
I'm me, You're you. But no I'm not. Yeah, I
am you. That's my name.

Speaker 7 (59:05):
You like, what if you ever met him a Spanish
guy or you know, a Hispanic guy or lady named
two t U two no, okay, so two?

Speaker 6 (59:14):
No me? Oh just one right, I'm me and I'm one. Right,
well you're two yeah, so yeah you so, so go ahead.
So this is in You magazine. I don't know what
that is. Is it like a British magazine? I think so? Maybe?
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (59:25):
It's there's there's so many of the magazines out there.
I mean, once it gets past People and US Weekly,
I kind of, you know, fall off from that. But uh,
Pamela Anderson for You magazine.

Speaker 6 (59:36):
I'll follow him anywhere. I'm gonna tell you, I'm not
a big cheesy love story guy. I mean I like
good endings and comebacks. I love this because you think,
First of all, Liam Neeson lost his wife tragically in
two thousand and nine, Natasha Richardson, and he went sixteen

(59:58):
years now dating, no relationship, nothing, worry. It was almost
like to honor her. It was hard for him. And
regardless of take take away the role as him as
a guy or what you think, you know, when he's
against guns. You got to use his guns to kill
people in all his movies, regardless, say you feel about that,
I'm just compartmentalizing his movies entertained me. I think he's
a good actor and he plays the same guy in
every movie though. Yeah, and there's about twenty of those

(01:00:20):
guys that we know, Oh what movies staate them in? Oh,
I can already tell you wick all of them, right, right, Denzel? Yes,
but but I know Denzel could pull off anything. But
Liam Neeson, we know his role, but he the dedication
in losing your wife. I'm sure that's the trauma that
he went through because they're in the prime of their marriage, right,

(01:00:40):
and to wait that long and then to find Pam Anderson,
who's been well, she was you know, one of the
hot ones when she's running on the beach in a
red bathing suit and she was the pin of everybody.
It was Pam Anderson, right, and then she went through
her times where and she's dated rockers, druggies, h guys

(01:01:00):
who sex mattered. I mean, we've seen all the stories
and have seen her Yeah. Yeah, yeah. If you played
the drums, you had a shout at the time and
all that I'm sure she's been with guys that were
hung like a field mouse and quite the opposite, right,
and somewhere in between. But you know what, she's gone
away from all the makeup and stuff and has changed

(01:01:22):
her look and looks happy, looks healthy, you know, honestly,
she just does. And she's been through a lot of
good stuff because everybody, you know, when she's doing the
little Bats commercials, yes, yes, exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Two.

Speaker 6 (01:01:40):
Now, I love comeback stories and I love this because
you can change your life, and you can, and she's
been through a lot of it feels like trauma and
beat down and fans beating her. Like when she goes
on without making Wow, he doesn't look all you dumb
asses are gonna get old too, you know. And just
because you might get ugly doesn't mean you've got a dog.

(01:02:02):
The pretty ones or the ones, Oh that's right, they're
doing that to Sydney Sweeney on a regular basis. Why
is it always the ugly ones that got a problem
with good looking ones making money and doing commercials. I digress,
But with I love this story and the fact that
both of them had been through at times I'm sure
emotional hell for Liam Neeson. He's always been working. Pam

(01:02:23):
Anderson didn't feel like was working much, probably got out
of it. And whether it's raising a family or what
have you. And it's been through a and some of
it self inflicted, but of browbeating, and she's changed her
look a little bit. She's natural. I love the story, man,
and I know it's kind of we'd like to joke
around about her and her past and Liam Neeson, he's
got a particular set of skills, right, I will find you.

(01:02:45):
But in truth, can you imagine losing the love of
your life in the prime of your marriage tragically and
going from two thousand and nine to now of finally
finding a relationship with somebody who fulfills that void. And
for her, because she's no longer the pin up girl,
you know what, she's in her fifties and as natural,
she looks pretty damn good. I respect it, I love it,

(01:03:05):
and I hope it lasts because it doesn't feel to
me that was a rebound obviously sixteen years for Liam Neeson.
It doesn't feel like any of that. It feels like
two people are like, you know what, we got some
adverse stories to share, and I'm sure there's some stories
that w Liam Neeson doesn't want to hear. Is they
spit all over you? Sorry that Liam Neeson doesn't want
to hear. It's in our past, man, Yes, And I'm

(01:03:26):
sure there's some things about him that she's like, damn,
you actually applied that in real life. So good on them,
two people to find each other. I don't have problem.
I actually think it's a We like to joke about
stuff like that around on social media and browbeat, not
in this one. Man. I'm all in on this and
I'm good, and I hope it lasts.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
I do.

Speaker 7 (01:03:43):
Maybe Liam wants to turn over a new leaf of saying,
you know, I can only fight the IRA so many
times or anybody else. So for him, because I you know,
with you tah a car on a.

Speaker 6 (01:03:54):
Train right, just drinking booze lost his family, But some
of this is a real life thing. He just lost
his wife tragically unfortunately, So go ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:04:02):
But I mean I was reminded as you were talking
that he did love actually, so I mean there is
precedent here for Liam to say, well, maybe maybe I
turn over a new leaf here, right. I stopped being
you know, the the closet drunk who lost his wife
and is a loaner. And then he sees you know,
particular you know, group of bad guys come to town
and he says, what's time for me to go lone

(01:04:24):
wolf here and take them out?

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:04:25):
And he's dude, and you know, he's been getting paid
for why does he He ain't get paid like half
a million dollars in a movie. He get paid and
he gets a lot of good roles. And this is
a class who's going to replace Frank Dreben the original
Leslie Nielsen? Right, but maybe I can't. I'm actually looking
forward to see that. He feels like the perfect replacement
because that that that that dry humor. Right, It's like

(01:04:45):
then the one liners. Wasn't it the same with Nielsen too?

Speaker 7 (01:04:48):
Like wasn't it like it was almost the reverse of
Bruce Willis for die Hard, Yes, where people were like
this guy like, isn't he like kind of a serious
actor and.

Speaker 6 (01:04:57):
Then yes, you know, he crushed comedy and then that's
and and now that's how we know him, right, And
it's the same with Liam Neeson. So I think this
is you know, and then what he did in Ted
was brilliant. When he was on the checkout, right, It's
like it was classic rit but the relationship considering, it's
not like they just jumped into something after a divorce,

(01:05:17):
and we see them on social media they're still not
divorced and she's pregnant banging him and while they were
still it's been it's been a it's been a marathon,
not a sprint for them. And I'm I like the story, man,
I do, and I'm all for it. I like the
good ending and I hope it ends the way they
wanted to.

Speaker 7 (01:05:34):
Team relationship one thousand more than team Katy Perry and Trudeau.

Speaker 6 (01:05:40):
Oh gosh, don't get me there. Can you imagine the
conversation at the dinner table for both couples. I'm sorry
to tell you, I've got nothing to tell you right
now about Trudeau and Katy Perry. Hey, don't can I
move tables? These people killing men? No, abs, absolutely friggin not. Hey,

(01:06:02):
Liam and Pam. Yeah, and she still isn't she going
through a divorce. So there's the difference. There's one that's
the rebound, and she could have chose somebody better. But
she's a little wacko anyway.

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
Apparently after her whole little space excapade that they did.

Speaker 6 (01:06:16):
Oh yeah, she's an astronaut. That apparently, how was that
you know, lip gloss you were putting on in your
on your suit on the way up to space? That really,
I put in quotes stop it.

Speaker 7 (01:06:27):
That was the final straw for Orlando apparently, is that
he just said, I just I can't with her anymore,
like I'm done, it's lost, it's gone.

Speaker 6 (01:06:35):
And I don't hate him for it. And Trudeau, ye,
I'll probably just stop talking here. That's all good. Yeah,
he is a give me the lead. I'm team Niesen
and team Anderson on this one. And if you want
to sit there and have dinner with Katie Perry and Trudeau,
you go ahead, damn you know, you go.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Enjoy.

Speaker 6 (01:06:56):
I'm good there you go.

Speaker 7 (01:06:58):
Let's get into a little bit of Texans here, because
we brought something up yesterday that didn't get a chance
to one hundred percent nail the hammer of the nail in.

Speaker 6 (01:07:08):
So we'll do that right here.

Speaker 7 (01:07:09):
It is the Sean Salisbury Show on a Western Wednesday,
Sports Talk seven ninety and Live The Sean Salisbury Show continued,
sounds like it'll be Raghetty back first before Hovier, so
probably another start or two for Vier, that's okay, and
then you get rag Getty probably after he makes his
next one sometime at the end of this week this weekend, and.

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
If they can pull off a front line pitcher, that'll
give you a little energy as you continue to wait
on Hovier. Right, But even just the Jeremy Payne, your
presence felt good, didn't it. Yes, I mean it just feels.
It feels better and getting going. So the pieces, the
seven or eight or eighteen pieces that fell on the
ground while you're making a five hundred person, you know,

(01:07:52):
five hundred piece puzzle. You put one back in last night.
So let's hope that and you know, Dana as we'll
talk him at nine to fifteen, seat of nine thirty today,
Dana Brown, that there will be some action. And I
am curious if there's a chance that they do nothing.
And I know you're dealing with somebody else, but I
would imagine their mind that put it this way, if

(01:08:14):
I was a betting man and you went through ABCD,
the a part of it would be pitching or hitting.
You get down to d before I'd say it's a
deal that's not done. I believe that there's a lot
more chance that something gets done as opposed to nothing
gets done.

Speaker 7 (01:08:30):
The only thing I can think of, too, is that
he's had conversations at least to lead him to believe
that cease is gettable. And at that point it's say,
all right, I mean this is something that we've had
focused you know, we've been focused on, and we could
find a left handed bat that we still feel like
is serviceable enough, That's what I'm wondering, or that maybe

(01:08:50):
the market for the left handed bas we heard aj
Pirzenski told us yesterday. Look, hitting is not as readily
available as pitching is right now, which is weird.

Speaker 6 (01:08:58):
Yeah, and no question, and it feels like normally that's
the way around. Yeah you can find that. Yeah, I'm
not giving you this guy or no, we can't get
to him where he's too expensive or what have you.
But the bat and a left handed dude, I've gone through.
Who's a left handed power about? Give me five that
are available that people. Now, there may be some that
are available we're not talking about, but in truth, who

(01:09:21):
are they? Normally you can't get an idea right, but
you go through it. I'm talking about. It isn't exactly
a laundry list of you say, oh, yeah, there's fifteen
dudes that they're willing to part with. Now you may
catch a shocker and that somebody may part with somebody like, wow,
they're willing to give him up for this. But again,

(01:09:41):
I'm not I'm not in disagreement with Presentski at all.
It feels like it's tougher to get an everyday player
that can impact your roster than it is to get
a pitcher. And normally it's the other way around, so
you can go get pitching more than hitting. That's a
that doesn't happen very often how we treated at least,
that's for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:09:59):
Yeah, Usually it's the pitching that gets a huge haul
in return.

Speaker 6 (01:10:03):
So maybe this year the other way around. Hentce Zach
Grinky for five, yeah, and hence Kokuchi for three. Right,
there's eight of them right there, with two cats, one stag,
one win, so it is there is absolutely no doubt.
Yet it's a bitch, which may mean that you can
get Dylan cease and all this, which would be in

(01:10:24):
my opinion, pretty cool.

Speaker 7 (01:10:25):
It's also too I mean, how good you are at
evaluating talent, which Dana's been really good at and returns
have been seen, so yeah, I mean talked about it
numerous times of you know, just the way this season
is gone, and if it plays out the way we
hope it does that there's no question in my mind.
Joe Spotta and Dana Brown are both manager and Executive

(01:10:46):
of the Year at this point, So it seems like
we're trending towards that. Like I said, with Tamiko Ryans,
there was still a little bit more to chew on.
We will chew on that coming up right here. Don't
forget that. Dana Brown going to join us nine fifteen
this morning here on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk
seven to ninety.

Speaker 8 (01:11:05):
The Sean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 7 (01:11:09):
Texans are also back out on the practice field this morning,
and we heard from Demico Ryans yesterday Sean where he
was asked about the report from over the weekend from
Ian Rappaport that Mixon gonna be out for an extended
period of time due to an ankle injury.

Speaker 6 (01:11:24):
DJB enemy.

Speaker 7 (01:11:26):
That's saying that Mixon injured his ankle over the off season,
which landed him on the non football injury list for
the start of training camp. And remember we had the
quote from Demico Ryans where he said nothing's changed with
Joe still training in the background. I know we get
reports about Joe, but nothing's changed. He's still working. Whenever
it's time for Joe to get back, he'll be back.
A lot of people want to report things about guys

(01:11:47):
with injuries, But my thing is, are you really concerned
about our guys or are you just trying to get
something out there and talked about a little bit yesterday
carried over here, a little bit here, and you know
my whole thing. I get what Tamiko Ryans is trying
to say. I get what he's trying to do where
I protect my guys, I care about my guys all
of those things. But it's also for people like Ian Rappaport,

(01:12:11):
JB enemy Us, whoever it might be. Tmiko, I hate
to tell you, but that's not our job. And I
know that that sounds harsh on the surface. That's you know,
oh you don't care about these you know these these
players as guys.

Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
I mean when it comes to football.

Speaker 7 (01:12:26):
I hate to tell you, but you want to know
about are they going to be back anytime soon? Are
they healthy or are they not? That's what you want
to know about. And in this case too, it's kind
an ankle injury. It's not like he has cancer and.

Speaker 6 (01:12:37):
Dan it's uh. And the truth is, I think where
you're going with this, and I feel the same way
I talked about why coaches yesterday, like why you do
protect your players first? I get it. And and football
it seems that people are a little more guarded. Yet
here in baseball they seem pretty guarded too, right, but
it's the injury, so they usually air new organizations on
the side of protecting the player. That being said, when

(01:13:00):
people are asking about Joe Mixon right now, and I
don't mean this insensitive. Nobody cares about where he had
dinner last night. Now, if he's healthy and he was
out in town making a charity of appearance, oh great,
Joe was there, But we are going to ask you're
asking about the injury. You askeding about the player. Why
because the player's impactful and you want to know and
if he's not practicing. And also in truth, and maybe

(01:13:23):
I'm different, I would have gone about it different way. Listen,
Joe's here, as he said, and he's working and putting
all his work in and Demiko's one hundred percent right,
and he's right and protecting the players. But on the
other side, I would also said, listen, if Joe was
one hundred percent healthy, and I'd nip in the butt immediately.
If Joe Mixon is one hundred percent healthy, he'll practice.

(01:13:45):
He's not going to the ground. He will not take
one snap in a preseason game, even if he's one
hundred percent healthy. Don't need him to so healthy or not.
When he's practicing and full go, you'll know you'll never
see him in a game until we open the season.
And if it's serious, he's putting his work in, he'll
be good to go. So if there's change, I will

(01:14:07):
let you you know in the meantime tomorrow, there's no
reason asked about Joe's If he's not practicing, you'll know
that he's not ready and he's taking care of it,
doing all the things necessary to get ready. But don't
worry about the preseason games because Joe was not playing
in a preseason game anyway. You're never going to see
him in a preseason game, is what I would have said,

(01:14:28):
and so take it from there. But he's doing everything
to get necessary and he'll be ready when September comes around,
You're just not going to see him in a game,
and he will practice. But we don't need to kill
him in practice either. We need fresh legs. And that
would have been the end of the conversation. Kind of
reminds me of a few years ago.

Speaker 7 (01:14:43):
I remember Julio Jones being asked about the preseason and
the reporter, Yeah, he responded to the reporter, I haven't
played a preseason game in years, Like, why are you
asking me?

Speaker 6 (01:14:52):
Right? What's changed now?

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:14:55):
Yeah, Yeah, it's not going to change. It's not like
magically you're going to see me out there.

Speaker 6 (01:15:00):
Do I want to see the fifth round pick who's
trying to make a team. Of course, you want to
see him. You want to see him on a practice field,
because that's where you make the impression to get you
reps in the pie, of course, and it's just to
get okay, just to validate what you've seen on the
practice field, good or bad. Guy's a bad practice player.

(01:15:21):
You put him in a game and he gets out
of position, then he's gonna end up getting cut. Practice. Practice,
practice will studying in tape, he's working, doing his thing.
Our five or six or ten steps really changing your perception. No,
it's a rehearsal. They're just dressed rehearsal For those guys,
Julio Jones didn't need to be catching footballs on the
jugs on the side, practicing, getting himself ready in shape

(01:15:44):
and game. That's important because Craick camps shorter and you
want to be a part of it. He doesn't need
to play. I personally don't need to see c. J.
Stroud throwing the balls into preseason games. I don't now
if you want to put him into handoff a few times,
get three rhythm throws and get him out a slant
so he's not holding the ball along great, And I
know it's for the viewing pleasure, but in truth, if

(01:16:05):
you're a fan that loves football, why do you care
what you may get? Nick Chubb a carrier too, but
if he's practicing his ass off, why do I need
to see that veteran in a game? Do you want
him to beat you in the second preseason game you
wanted to beat you in the fifth regular season game.
And I've changed over the years in my position. Certain guys,
if you're a you know you got to hit reps

(01:16:26):
and you've got to hope get in the game so
you can validate what they thought of it with the
way you're practicing. That's what they want to say. Okay,
the ramped up the pressure a little bit. It' say game,
how do you perform? I already know how Mixing's gonna perform.
I know Julia Jones is going to perform because he
showed me in the biggest moment sized performed. I don't
need to see him, and the more their career goes on,
the less I need to see him in the preseason
in shape, taking care of it, practicing and the drills

(01:16:46):
that are necessary. I don't know if it's fan related
to Red have you, but why in the world would
I play Christian McCaffrey in a preseason game? Why should?
I'm gonna tell you what. I will jump through my
TV screen. Or if Nick Sirianni plays Saquon Barkley in
a in a preseason game. If you're a Philly fan,
you should call and say we're going to we are

(01:17:07):
going to stand outside and pick at the Philadelphia Eagles.
We're giving away the good stuff for free us. If
you play that guy, Jalen Hurst doesn't need one carrier
one throw in a game. He may get a couple
of snaps, But why am I putting him in harm's
way if he's If something happens, I cheer like it
to be. If he's gonna get banged up. Game ten
of the regular season, at least I had nine out

(01:17:29):
of him, I hope none of that happens. So if
I'm a coach, I'm setting rider. Here's the guys that
are not don't get alarmed guys, even if they're healthy.
Here's the guys you're never the matter of fact, they're
not even gonna be tempted. They will not be in
a uniform in a preseason game.

Speaker 7 (01:17:41):
Hey, they're gonna be on the field. I mean, I
suppose they'll be out there. It's just gonna be wearing.

Speaker 6 (01:17:45):
They'll be wearing a T shirt and sweats or a
pair of you know whatever, pair of joggers and a
train drinking and drinking gatorade and encouraging the guy who's
trying to make the team. I'm not worried about Nicocollins
getting a slant catch and a pre season game. I
am want him in blitz pick up and do all
that on the practice field. So changed I and especially

(01:18:07):
hey man, did you see that Aaron Rodgers was seven
to nine in the preseason? Wow? I mean we did.

Speaker 7 (01:18:14):
We did the complete opposite with CJ in that preseason
game is rookie year at New England where it was,
oh my god, he looks so overwhelmed. It's like because
it's his first NFL start. And I did that in
air quotes because it wasn't even a start. Yeah, it
wasn't even half the playbook.

Speaker 6 (01:18:29):
It's crazy now and one thing we do got to
stop is we got to break. Please, I'm begging you now.
Some may like it. I hate now. Some may love it.
And this is just from me. I despise and hate
the running stats in preseason practice. That so you're telling

(01:18:50):
me you are literally charting, Hey, one on ones up next,
you're dropping back with no pass rush, all coverage, we
run a slant route and it's complete. You're you're you're
literally charting that for me. Hey, I saw one. And
you know that dove climbing guy on Twitter? You see him, right,

(01:19:13):
he you talked about. He he'll throw, He'll show you
a pass. And I know it's all about clicks at
Shador Sanders through a seven yard checkdown, and he says,
this guy's arms final. Look at the way he spends it,
there's nothing but great future. And I want to look
at and say, dude, you you're not serious right yet?
Aaron Rodgers threw a pick in preseason game in preseason
practice the first day. Do you realize there's people that

(01:19:35):
were like, oh my gosh, what are we going to
do here? He threw a pick in preseason? Really, isn't
that why we practice? So please and if you're one
of those that likes it, you get a hobby, because
I got news for you. No quarterback in the history
of mankind. Now he may in his own mind think
I'm getting good completions. I've never walked into a meeting
room and had a coach say you were twelve or

(01:19:56):
fifteen during seven on seven. Now we have come in
and say he lookt we got to read this better
or what have you ever? So can we stop the
hyperbole and the nonsense of running training camp complete? Because
if you're telling a fan, oh, the guy was fifteen
to fifteen in a preseason practice, what did the fan
base saying? Then you gotta play The first time the

(01:20:17):
starter throws intersectional, we got to play the other guy's
fifteen to fifteen in practice three against the backups in
seven on seven where there's no pass rush. We got
to stop. There's nothing more irritating in football preseason then
fans buying into it and somebody giving me a running
play by play and I'm not even sure who does,
and if somebody here, I haven't seen anybody local do,

(01:20:37):
but if they do, I'm sorry if it doesn't fly
with me. I'm sure you're a great reporter or great
I don't want to hear a running total from a
fan or anybody else. Charting completions. Let the coach is
charting and go over the tape. Nobody cares if Rogers
throws twenty seven picks in the preseason practices. Guess who's
opening the season is the starter for the Steelers Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,

(01:21:00):
and it's not gonna matter one bit. He could still
be the MVP of the league regardless of that. So
stop it. And you know how I fix that first off,
charting place, stop it that the charting, the completions on Twitter.
But I'm telling my fans right off in the media
right off for that. Here's the guys that you will
not see in a game this year. I'm telling that
the first practice, they're not playing one preseason game, and

(01:21:23):
there's about thirty of them. The rest we'll get him
in because guess what I care about getting guys right
and ready, now prepared. But see that schedule, who we
open with, we're all. Everything we do is headed for
that and the joint practice. That's exactly right. Those joint
practices are far more important to me than Aaron going

(01:21:43):
three out of four against the team that's got half
their starters playing in a first preseason game. They show
him off of the fans, right, No, the fans have
seen enough. He's won four MVPs. He don't need to
play okay in the preseason. So practice, to me, that's
where I find out who a guy is. The grind
of practice day after day after day, and they can

(01:22:05):
sustain it and not get behind mentally and sustain it physically.
That's how guys make the team. All's the game is
a simple validation. Now, if you're a sixth rounder, now
you gotta do a lot. But that's just part of
being a sixth rounder. You know the response seen you
damn right? That's what is it? A privilege to be
a player that's played fifteen years and been good at
it where you don't have to do precinct. It absolutely is,

(01:22:26):
but they've earned it. I have a problem with it.

Speaker 7 (01:22:29):
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Speaker 6 (01:23:26):
Eight o'clock.

Speaker 7 (01:23:27):
Gower is here and a little over an hour from now,
nine fifteen Astros GM Dana Brown gonna join us and
try to get in a little bit of trade deadline.
I mean, even with Jacob Melton off the injury list, now,
there's still a laundry list of others that we hope
will we will see return here in short order. So
get into that much more with him. Stros do win

(01:23:49):
last night seventy four over the Nationals. They're gonna go
for a series win this afternoon, and the Texan's gonna
get back on the practice field here in about an hour.
But the formula, Sean I said, there's a formula. It's
A plus B plus C in this case A Jose
Al two ve B, Christian Walker and C. At least

(01:24:10):
we'll see if he's still here after tomorrow. Jiner Diaz.
Those guys last night, four of the seven runs bat
it in one from al Tuove, one from Yiner, two
from Christian Walker. That helps you win ball games. And
I've been looking for the offense. That was the offense
getting going.

Speaker 6 (01:24:27):
Last night, and a couple more hits for Walker. That's it.
I hope this assent continues. It's going to be important.
He really is to and if we know that he
starts to heat up as it goes along, well, now's
his time. Now's his time, and you get paying you back.
So now you're a little more bandwidth and you start
to work to hopefully get Jordon sooner than later. And

(01:24:47):
then now we start to build this thing and then
getting a lot of these arms back, which will be good.
But yes, the middle of that lineup with we've discussed
you have to get production from Das, you have to
get production from Walker. You've got to have L two
abing and now Paynia back in the lineup. You got
to get him playing like he was as a three
hundred hitter and quite frankly the MVP of the team
before he got hurt.

Speaker 7 (01:25:07):
Well, I mean, and that's the thing named a pitcher,
right is I mean you were worried the most when
Painia went down because you're, like, man, we saw it
in twenty two how important he is his team and
when he is able to get meaningful hits for you,
it matters, and I mean it continues to matter for you.
But it seems like the one that's hurt the most
as of recent times is Perettis and what he gave

(01:25:31):
you from not only the power perspective where he leads
the team, but also from just the way that he
puts together at bats, which we did see that last night.
That first inning set the tone for the team. Seven
pitches to Tremmel, seven to al two A, and then
I think it was at least seven to Christian Walker,
which led to the camp Smith RBI double.

Speaker 6 (01:25:51):
It is nice to get at a pitcher and make
him labor early, right, and when you can do that,
it makes it different. Then you get to text their bullpen.
Last night looked a little more like I know you
and I and I would imagine the Astras themselves wanted
to look. And it's still a work in progress. One
hundred plus games in and I think they've had I
was reminded last night because we've talked about what do

(01:26:13):
they ad one hundred and two different lineups now? Honestly
after Joe.

Speaker 7 (01:26:19):
I mean, you know, we keep repeating ourselves, but remember
you'd ask them at FanFest, Hey, you know, do you
want to use all those lineups?

Speaker 6 (01:26:25):
He was like, no, I don't even want to use
one hundred and forty seven of them or whatever last year,
and they're going to break that record at this pace.
When I say that record from last I mean when
you go in it one hundred and fifty two or
one hundred fifty three out of like ten times, you
had to say craziness. Right. Hence why he's a Manager
of the Year because he's had to for the most part.

(01:26:48):
So as long as this continues, But last night looked
a little bit more like the production that you want.

Speaker 7 (01:26:54):
Well, it's the production that you want, it's the production
that you need, and I mean it's especially needed right
now because I mean you have guys in the lineup
like Shay Whitgum, great TRIPLEA player, has not proven that
he can stick and stay here at the majors league
level just yet.

Speaker 6 (01:27:08):
Maybe that comes for him, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:27:10):
But Cooper Hummel gives you the hit off the bench,
Taylor Tremill's giving you some good stuff the plate. But
those aren't guys that you can count on. These are
supposed to be the guys that you're supposed to count on.

Speaker 6 (01:27:20):
Yet they've done a really good job of, even though
we weren't supposed to count on them, of keeping it
floating and tell the guys that we expected to do it.
And that's a good thing. That means you're doing just
because the expectations outside the building for Hummel and Trammel
and other guys aren't either, like, well, they're not our starters.

(01:27:42):
Those guys don't think that way. And in the clubhouse,
I assure you that jose Al Tuve isn't expecting Taylor
tremill a play like you're a guy who belongs to
the minors. Their job is to play like a guy
who belongs to the majors and proves you that you
invested in me for a reason. While I may not
be you know what you want. As far as the
starter and the perception of when we got to win

(01:28:04):
with our big boppers, your job is still you pick
up a paycheck, is to go do what they do.
You see it in sports all the time. If the
gap between your starter and your backup is so blatant
you lose a lot of ground, then they've been fortunate.
Now there is a gap between jose Al two V
and somebody else, or Jeremy Paine and somebody else. But

(01:28:25):
you've got your job, and they've done a good job
of it of not lengthening but shortening that gap or
making it a little smaller to where you don't feel like,
oh gosh, we have no chance to win with these
backups in this Triple A. They've done a good job
of keeping this team in first place. And when all
is said and done with the season, the organization and
the veteran players that come back, and quite frankly, all

(01:28:45):
of us are going to owe a standing ovation to
the way that these guys have come in at times when,
like you said, you're expecting the ir D is to
do that. Maybe now Victor Kartini on a regular base,
but there's guys here that you're like, there's no right
you're in four four games in front, and the majority
of this season has been spent with different lineup.

Speaker 7 (01:29:07):
On a daily basis. And thank god for Mauricio Dubon
three for three last night.

Speaker 6 (01:29:11):
Haven't we been saying that for about three years now
that every single year he's the new Bill Spiers. He is,
and he's also he's about as close to Ben Zobrist
as you can find in a city. He is that
he's become the guy that if I said, dude, can
you go squeeze to right field innings for us? We
just need it where we're.

Speaker 7 (01:29:30):
Yeple macho bag, let's see the right field glove.

Speaker 6 (01:29:33):
Yep, I got it. The only thing out there, the
only position that you can't play him. You don't want
to pitch him. Obviously in a seventy four to two
game that maybe that's the time you do want to.
But is Catcher other than that? If I if I hey, man,
we're down to Christian Walker's Outre Singleton's got the flu Okay,
can you play? And he's played for he's done something first,

(01:29:55):
He'll find a way to get by. He is as
good and versatile utility man uh as we have in baseball,
at least for here. He's been invaluable to this franchise
and the and the depth he provides it. He's your
backup in like five positions. That's ben Zobrist like. I'm
sure he wants to play every day, but you can't
complain to the guy who keeps things going when you

(01:30:17):
and it's a it's a great question to lean on.
If you're the Astros front off, you never have to
worry about that.

Speaker 7 (01:30:21):
I remember one day during batting practice, he was just
launching them, and Troy Snicker was walking by, and I said, hey, Troy,
do bond. Where does that power come from? How does
he get that? He goes he's twitchy. Twitchy guys like that.
You know you're able to get that. You know, speed
and strength matching up the same time. Kind of the
immovable force against the you know and your object, yeah

(01:30:43):
or right and removed object, irresistible force see here. You
are to help me, you know, messaging wrong messenger. You
know I'm the wrong messenger. You're the one that provides
the proper one. But that's what he brought up with him,
is you know, just that that's how he's able to
generate that.

Speaker 6 (01:30:58):
And I was like, huh, interesting, Well to validate exactly
what you're saying. I've talked to both of them at
different times during their lifetimes and careers. Tony Gwyn like
sometimes every now and again they'll go and put on
a little bit of clinic to prove they can hit
the ball of the park in batting practice. Tony heal shot,
I can hit the ball out of the park anytime
I want. He did not mean it, Ericant, because Tony

(01:31:19):
Tony going is just to complicate. At no point in
time did he mean it like I can go lead
the league a homer and see telling about batting practice
to put on show. Because what those guys do is
and Wade Bogs I ask him the exact because they're
they're the same guy, the different skin. You know what
I'm saying. Protected you know they hit three I want
to know about the seventy four Miller lights. Oh I

(01:31:41):
I didn't say that was the only thing, Wade bog Uh.
When you got Bogs and Brett Hull and Bobby Hole
and Phil Espigino, and then you you're like, I'm a
little overwhelm because he got four Hall of famers with me.
But all of them know how to drink, and all
of them had a lot of laughs, and we the
stories were the stories even got better than I see it, right,
So though Bogsy and I delved far deeper than that,

(01:32:03):
but I did ask him. He goes, Sean, there, he goes,
I can hit the ball like Anichi road, same way.
Those guys are so twitchy and so good. But what
they're working on is see that hula hoop and left field.
I'll bet you twenty bucks you can't hit it with
a line drive. Go the other way. I got you
damn hit it working it all over. But and both
of them told me, Sean, I can if you want.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:32:26):
He may not hit it in the upper tank twenty
times like McGuire did, or like your done would if
you wanted to put on a bombing clinic right hitting
the upper tank with ball, But he said I can
hit it. Then they were both being very confident. It
was not arrogant. I said, can you do if I want?
You hit home runs a bout practice, it was, I
can hit out of the ballparking time I want, And

(01:32:47):
how can you not believe them? But they were more
concerned with knowing that that wasn't going to be the
one the things that drove them during a game that
they knew their role hit a home run necessary at times,
hit the ball the other way, move runners over, set
the table, drive in runs, hit doubles, the ball's pitched outside,
pump it the other way. Get great at bats where
the pictures like I can't get these two fools out.

(01:33:10):
But in batting practice, like you mentioned, Doum, they can
hit the ball into the seats if they're not working
on their game that they live by, anytime they want,
and they can pull it and a right I mean
they can hit it in the right field to any time,
a left hand anytime they want. But they're working on
what where their bread's buttered and with their real day job,
and that's put the ball in play and make sure you're,

(01:33:30):
like I said, you on your way to three twenty
if you're one of those guys, right, And that's the
way they did it, So it doesn't surprise me that
DuMond with his twitch the same way, can you know,
hit it into the seats whenever he'd like in batting practice,
no doubt.

Speaker 7 (01:33:43):
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Speaker 7 (01:35:33):
You know, least next season before we get to yet
another CBA discussion between the owners and the players. And
it seems like we're already needing to prepare ourselves for
as soon as the World Series ends next season to say, yeah,
we're gonna be doing the same thing that we did

(01:35:53):
in twenty twenty two all over again.

Speaker 6 (01:35:56):
And we remember how that was.

Speaker 7 (01:35:57):
And eventually you got enough of a spring training in
and you were able to play the full season.

Speaker 6 (01:36:02):
So that was nice.

Speaker 7 (01:36:03):
But then you get reports like you saw a couple
of days ago, and this came out from I believe
it was Joel Sherman of the New York Post that
Rob Manfred is apparently making his rounds at the moment,
going to speak to major league teams, and apparently his
messaging is about needing some sort of salary cap or

(01:36:27):
that you know, these some of these guys, they're they're
losing money, so you know, that's that's why we can't
continue to pay you guys this type of money. Well,
he went and talked to the Phillies and Bryce Harper.
I think we can agree he's a pretty sizable face
inside that Phillies clubhouse.

Speaker 6 (01:36:42):
Around the league too well respected and a guy who
does not care what you think will let you know
without mincing words. So when Manford was about to speak,
Harper got up, according to this report, and said, if
you're going to talk to us about the salary cap,
get the blank out of our clubhouse. And I'm sure
that probably all of the other guys in that clubhouse

(01:37:04):
were like, Hell, yeah, dude, let's go. Let's do this man,
because Major League Baseball is the one of the major
sports that does not have a hard salary cap. You
got the competitive balance tax, but aside from that, you
don't have anything that's keeping you from being able to
earn guaranteed money and paying as many guys as you want.
I mean, you just got to pay into it a
little bit, but you know, aside from that, it's not

(01:37:26):
going to necessarily hurt you. But for these players, I mean,
it is where baseball is the sport Kurt Flood that
got free agency started, and that's what changed the landscape
of pro sports just in general. But for this now,
I mean for a guy like Harper, I think he
looks at it also too, of not only you know,
have I.

Speaker 7 (01:37:46):
Earned my money, other guys have earned their money, but
to help guys after them earn their money. And Scott
Boris in another story that I saw, brought that point up.
He goes, look at the bonus pool that Harper was
able to tap into when he got and then just
a year later, I think he pointed out it was
Byron Buxton was like four million dollars less because they
had capped it for the draft and said, all right,

(01:38:09):
so they're always trying to do it there. Now you
want to try to do it to future major league
players where they're going to look at it and say,
you know, Wan Soto gets to make that money.

Speaker 6 (01:38:18):
But I don't right, I'm I'm conflicted on this, and
I think it's okay, and both can be right, and
in some cases some may think. I first off, I
love Harper's when I say in your face, I don't
mean literally to Rob Manford. I love how he protects

(01:38:40):
his players. I'm big on that. I think it's important
and he should. Rob Manford came to you, and I'm
a little bit conflicted. I look, first off, he's Harper's
one correct. The last thing you want to discuss to
a player maybe you do that on the phone or
on a zoom call, or have your the rep do that,
the you know, the head of the players association do that,

(01:39:02):
because the last thing any players everyone want to hear
you've presented them with an unbelievable their whole life, they
haven't in pro baseball, they haven't had the salary cap,
and then you're gonna come and tell them. They don't
want to hear that. A matter of fact, that's the
last thing. If that's what's the breaking point, we will
have a work stoppage period. Players are never in order
to agree to that. You know what they'd say, well,

(01:39:24):
what's the salary cap? Two billion dollars a year and
goes up for Really that means there is no salary
cap because it's too high. No, we get into that.
I'm just telling you beat in those locker rooms people.
When you get into their wallet and take away that
part of the freedom, you're not winning that battle. They
will not show up. And if, especially the big dogs
who can handle a work stoppage, they got enough money,

(01:39:47):
they will stop. They will not unless the give by
the owners is massive. But my thing is, while Bryce
is in your face, the probably a little harshted commissioner.
Whether you like Rob manf or not, he is your commissioner,
and quite frankly, well he's the ball. He's the representative
of the owners, okay, not the league. The league comes second.

(01:40:07):
He represents who signs his paycheck period and hopes that
he can make it. You do represent both, but in
tooth in truth, when when's that cut in time? Who
do you think he's leaning on the owners because billionaires
usually have a little more pull than millionaires political position, deal,
there's no question yet the billionaires can't collect any money
unless those millionaires decide they want to show up and play.

(01:40:29):
There will be a work stoppage if that is the
breaking point. There may be one anyway. But I probably
would have given, and I love Harper, but probably would
have given. At least I would have allowed Rob Manford
to start his speech to us, and the second it
came up, say Rob, maybe a little lessa if you're
talking about salary cap today, ain't the day, buddy, and

(01:40:51):
then we'll move on. And it probably could have gone.
However it went down if in the quote as he
dropped the outbum, Okay, the other side of it, well,
as a player, hell No, I don't want to say
I'm all in all time one hundred player, one out
of one hundred. I'm not sure the fans are going
to be that way, although they love their former player,
because they're gonna say, because you know who doesn't have
a seat at the table. And I say it all

(01:41:12):
the time, Dan, We're not taking a construction worker, a
school teacher, a social worker, a CEO, a sales manager
like eight or ten fans. They're not going into the
meeting with the players and the owners, although why wouldn't they.
Can you imagine the construction works I can only go
to one game a year. So with a with a
non sign as it continues with just a luxury tax

(01:41:34):
or whatever we call it. And the non salaried I
mean a non salary cap league, who in the end
is going to get hosed. It's gonna be the fan, sure,
because eventually they're gonna come to agreement whatever that is,
and the fans are gonna say, well, they want their
players on the field. Your hot dog is going to
be twenty five bucks ten years from now. You know,
I'm being a little hyperball. You get my point. They

(01:41:55):
never get a seat at the table. Players and owners
to say we care about the fan. Oh, they care
about the fan wants to season's going. But in those negotiations,
do you really think Bryce Harper or somebody whoever, Tony
Whoever's gonna step up and say, you know what, what
about that guy? Maybe they do, but they're falling on
deaf fears. People don't think about the money you're spending
for a bearing a hot talk until you're standing next
to him and you're talking about a beer in a

(01:42:16):
hot talk. So the fans never get a seat at
the table, and they won't hear either. They'll raise prices.
Players will get theirs. Eventually they'll all get theirs. The
fans will not. You get one night where you get
a different discount on the dog. You ain't getting beers
for three bucks. You're sorry, it ain't ever happened one night.
Maybe you ain't getting them all the time. So point
is fans that I have to seat at the table.

(01:42:37):
I understand the owners because wouldn't it make baseball? But
I also want a floor, Dan, I want a floor.
Stay have to spend wouldn't it make baseball better? Because
now it's amazing that some of these other teams can
keep up without paying a lot of money, but they
end up losing good players. You don't want to lose
the nice sign of a Bobby Witt junior because you

(01:42:58):
can't afford him. When it with five years from now,
however long his contract was, but five years from now
because Kansas City is a small market team. He had
a good organization. So you start to go and you say,
wouldn't it make the people at the bottom if there
was a floor as well, at least now be able
to be in competition for a free agent or somebody

(01:43:18):
that they wanted, or keep the player you wanted because
you could afford to pay them. In this it is
the half and half, notts. I can tell you next year,
the six or seven teams that will be in the playoffs,
I can guarantee unless they have forty seven inches, you
can almost guarantee it. And most of them are beginning
high priced teams that can afford to go spend extra
money because there's no limit. If you're a billionaire and
I'm a millionaire and you want to spend, and I

(01:43:38):
want to spend, I can't keep up. I just can't
keep up. So and players are going to follow the
money so for baseball purposes in competition, it's it is
better to have one as a player. I'm giving you
the middle finger. Hell no, I don't want a salarycap.
But what's the give and take here? And that's and
most fans, while they can't stand the owner's billionaires, I

(01:43:58):
mean when I say can't stand them, I think they
have a lot of respect from mister Crane. I think
it gets to because the players are the ones that
are playing while you love your favorite, favorite favorite player.
But in truth, no salary cap is just. And the
players decide there's no salary cap, the fans are probably
gonna say, when are these guys going to give a little.

Speaker 7 (01:44:17):
As far as just keep taking, we can continue this too,
because I do think that the fans do have a
little bit of a voice, and I'll share that with
us all here.

Speaker 6 (01:44:24):
Yeah, I'm anxious to hear how that voice. Maybe social media,
but I'm not paying a touch to social media if
I'm an owner or a fan. But I want to
know how you think that a fan literally has say
in this unless they do one thing. And we can
both give our opinion on that, and we'll do that
right here.

Speaker 7 (01:44:41):
Sean Salisbury show on a Western Wednesday Sports Talk seven
to ninety and for the Sewn Salisbury show continues, the
fans voice, what do they have? It's pretty simple, Sean,
like for some of these smaller market teams, Colorado Rockies,
the Pittsburgh Pirates, any of the teams out there that

(01:45:01):
have not necessarily been competitive the last few years. And
if they want to try to say, oh, revenues are down,
we're losing money, all of these different things, what are
you doing to be able to entice the fan to
show up and put money into your organization? And that's
the question that I think if I'm the players, I
come to next, if I'm players on those teams that

(01:45:22):
have allowed enough voice, so you've been into those clubhouses.
I mean, who was it that you mentioned that had
dogged the Chicago White Sox of saying, you know, just
what a poor, poorly run organization it was?

Speaker 6 (01:45:33):
It was what Frasier maybe clearly it was I play
for the Yankees as well, So that's exactly it.

Speaker 7 (01:45:40):
If I'm the players, I bring those guys in, where
then you go back and say, hey, look you're expecting
this from us, But then where's the investment from you?
I know for a fact for one of those organizations
I just mentioned, at least this was told to me.
So maybe I don't know it for a fact, but
I've heard it from a good source secondhand that one
of those organizations part time strength and conditioning coaches, no

(01:46:01):
track me in use at the minor league level, basically
very little to no resources at those levels. And you
want to know why you're losing, like seriously, like like
what where's your head when it all comes to this?

Speaker 6 (01:46:14):
Okay, So how does that affect a fan? The fan?
How would a fan I know how to affects the fan?
How does the fan have a voice in the new
collective bargaining? You're not getting my money, That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
You're not getting my money until you give me a
reason to show up and support you. Like, that's what
cracks me up with people, you know, with Oh, you're
on the astros beand wagon. You weren't here when they
were terrible in the early twenty tens. Well, I shouldn't
be there in the early twenty tens because you're awful.
There's no reason for me to be here.

Speaker 6 (01:46:43):
All right, But and I then that's why I said,
the only way that you impacted is by not showing up.
I'm talking about anywhere in basement. I'm not telling you
not to show up. That's the way you'd impact if well,
how do I have a voice at the table. There's
only one way. Quit buying you, quit showing up, quit watching.
Right with all of those never gonna happen. The threat

(01:47:07):
of it, all this Stephen Colbert talk. I'm talking about
just whether you like him, and I don't care about
whether you like him or not. All this people protests
and people going on, how dare this? You don't have
free speeches? If Trump called, I mean that he's the
red bottom line is you weren't funny and you're losing
forty million a year. That's a bad business decision. Get
the hell out. I'm going to replace you with somebody

(01:47:29):
who is I don't care. If it's a flaming liberal,
if it's a crazy Democrat, I don't care. I mean
a conservative. It does doesn't matter. That's the point talk shows.
Talk shows have got away from being funny. They're only
on one subject. Now it's political, and it's taxing, and
it wears you out. Okay, it's a it's annoying, quite Frankly,
I don't care who it is. It's annoying. Hey TV,

(01:47:49):
we're gonna have this politician on what a Shock? Yeah,
I can't wait to hear Corey Booker. I can't wait
to hear you know, Christy Nolan. Great, I hear every
day every day. How about give me a laugh before
I go to bed at night. So I'm not looking
at the ceiling stressed out over all the stuff that
we saw anyway, So I'm just not gonna listen or
I'm not gonna watch. You're losing forty millionaire. It's a

(01:48:10):
bad business decision. But you know how many people showed
up in New York City to strike and or picket
and or complain without like twenty people twenty So all
the talk and all these celebrities that are talking about
you can't do that is John Stewart. Was he in
New York standing out in front of the building because
he can't believe that Stephen Colbert or any of this?

(01:48:32):
What's the whack? Keith Olberin? Are there they standing out there? No?
And it's what most fans. I'm not saying most, I'm
not comparing Paul. You get my point. Here's all this outrage,
fake outrage. You're losing forty million ere. I'm not investing
in you, unless, of course, three years down the line
you're gonna make me four hundred million. That hadn't been
the case. Been going on too long. So we'll talk it,

(01:48:55):
and we're all guilty of it. The fans are never
going to It's like Augusta or A. It's like, you know,
the Packers. I've said this, the Green Bay Packers. You're
a fan, soun'd tired of this, You're charging too much money.
Twenty of us are not going to show up tomorrow.
We'll getting rid of our season tickets. You know what's
going to happen. Twenty others will show. That's absolutely correct.
And so now if you're winning fifty games, eventually it's

(01:49:15):
just going to be empty because people find other things
to do. Winning begat making money. Losing equal losing money
in most Now, if you're in Boston, New York, people
may still show up. They may not sit in the
high price sas, but you know they, for whatever reason,
they spent a lot. So it's almost like they got
to validate why I spent eight billion dollars on my
season tickets and show up. The point is, no matter

(01:49:36):
what we do, there's always going to be somebody else
that goes. So you're exactly right, whether it's leave this place,
out anywhere, So that is the voice, you're exactly right.
But like anything else, it's like a player who threatens
to hold out. I'm hold out? How many times in
your lifetime as a football player, we'll just use that
as an example, or any other sport held out decided

(01:49:56):
he was I am not playing until I get what
I want. You know what, Eventually they always do show up. Yeah,
because it hits their wallet. They realize, and you can
never make that money up. Even if you make more
money down the road. There's still that eight million dollars
or ten million dollars that you just gave away because
you didn't want to do it. Now if it ended
up making you eight hundred million, different story. But they'll

(01:50:16):
always show up all the time. They will eventually show up. Now,
they may have got what they wanted, but they're never
gonna get all they want. Same thing with fans. We
talk it, and we talk, we talk it. But the temptation,
oh it's Wednesday or Thursday day. Game, Man, they're not
winning or they are winning, but the price is big.
But maybe we can get this. Let's go scalp it
to whatever and you show up and you go. It's
never stopping. And especially like in football if they it's

(01:50:39):
never stopping because so pie, it's never stopping. But yes,
and that goes back to sorry, can how do you
be more competitive if you're one of these hard market
teams that isn't making money by you raise the floor,
but you also put a cap on it, so they
have that. Now everybody's competitive. So now you can keep
Bobby wit Junior, you can keep Jordan Alvarez, you can
keep in smaller market places. This isn't a small market,

(01:51:00):
but it is considered it's not considered a big market
team even though it's a huge market. Yeah, so San Francisco, right,
So you've got to be willing to so for fans
we say that, but that is the only way, Dan,
the only way that you make the impact is if
you don't show up or quit buying product. You got
a pizza place you've spent too much on. We've seen
it happen and you're the franchise and then you say,

(01:51:22):
well they just close down, or a department store they've
been in business forty years, somebody else competitive. You kind
of lost your edge and you quit producing the stuff
you wanted to and it kind of got cheap, and
not just cheap price wise, but you just it's people
just don't want to show up your stornymore. And what
happens you close two ondred fifty stores, or you try
to build too fast fans, but eventually you go back
to it because of good marketing, or you like the product,

(01:51:43):
or it's inexpensive and all that's great and that works.
But in baseball as well, in sports, you if you
don't live up now, forty thousand people on a regular basis,
decide we are not showing up, and they're in. They're
in unison like a like a union would for in
the in the league. Different story. The fans, I hate

(01:52:04):
to say this, for for what they want, we will
all complain about the price. But the only way you
fix it is quit showing up and don't do it.
I'm not saying it because we're winning here and they'll spend.
You know how this goes. If somebody gave up their
AUGUSTA seats and they offered him to you, what are
you gonna do Dan, I'm taking them, but and you're
gonna buy them. But we've seen it too.

Speaker 7 (01:52:23):
I mean I mentioned this last week with you know,
on the show of Jerry Jones of saying he's one
of the best drug dealers there is because he sells
hope like there's nobody's business, no question. People, Oh oh
this is the Cowboys year. Really well enough people believe
it because they keep spending money and they keep showing
up and the kind of the backup what we're talking
about about showing up, not showing up. Look at the

(01:52:45):
football team here in this town is for the longest
time get rid of Jack easterby get rid of him.

Speaker 6 (01:52:50):
But on Sundays, though the pride, they didn't they they
were they were still people still showed up sixty thousand
instead of seventy five thousand. There had to be enough
of a drop though for them to finally say this
isn't working. Oh we can't. At least the impact which
said it felt it was a little too uncomfortable, right
with just losing that kind of money. But look what
happened to change the front office and then it became

(01:53:11):
a place people want to go. So now people are
coming because they feel it's a feel good thing. And
the one thing about Jerry, Dude, even if Jerry didn't
go get one person this offseason doesn't pay. Michael Parsons
hasn't paid anybody. Guess what, it's the Dallas Cowboys. There's
a they're showing up, if nothing else, for the social
event that Jerry provides there at the stadium. And we
all talk it Jerry yet, but very few fans will walk.

(01:53:35):
I am tired of paying one hundred and fifty bucks
for a top of the stadium seat for four, So
I'm paying six hundred bucks or whatever it is. Right
then don't do it. Yeah, but my kid loves them.
See how that that vicious cycle goes. And then the
prices go up. Salary cap, you don't have one. Salaries
go up. We're close to a billion dollar player. We

(01:53:56):
are in baseball, and so where does the money You
think they're lowering hot dog and beer prices in New York. No,
And your T shirt and your hat, dude, we're paying.
If you ever know you go on last shop, you're
paying forty forty five bucks for a hat like a
golf hat. Now it's got a little extra logo. You say, what,
it's fifty once they're cut, man, Yeah, it does, and

(01:54:19):
so and we don't a lot of times have just
like a player doesn't have the nerve to hold out
a long time fans. We don't it with the temptation
of going with buddies and having a beer and going
to a game is just too great unless you're a
forty win team. But when you're winning and do it,
you're not getting a salary cap anytime soon if the
players have anything to do with it, unless you give
up half the Major League Baseball world.

Speaker 7 (01:54:41):
Otherwise, players, there will be a work stoppage. Seems like
it's looking that way. Steve Rich, see you guys right there,
Get you guys involved in the conversation. Don't forget to
About thirty minutes from now, Astros GM Dana Brown going
to join us for his weekly visit. Here it is
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Speaker 7 (01:56:41):
Ninety we're bringing in Nolan Arenado and or Or in
this case just or Heno Suarez also in the mix,
and Brian McTaggart corroborating at saying the Astros interest in
reuniting with Korea, presumably to play third base with perettis
out is real, a source confirms, which is interesting because

(01:57:06):
the reports are out there that there is a power
struggle right now in Minnesota where ownership is trying to
sell the team so they want to be able to
shed as much salary as possible.

Speaker 6 (01:57:16):
But then you've got the front office it's like.

Speaker 7 (01:57:18):
No, we're close in a playoff race, like we're not
doing this?

Speaker 6 (01:57:22):
What are we doing here?

Speaker 7 (01:57:23):
And that's where it's interesting with Jim Crane, with Carlos
Correa is it seems like whenever Jim Crane likes his guys,
he's gonna get his guys. But for the price tag though,
and what. It seems like you would probably have to
pony up there. Why wouldn't you have just resigned him
in the first place? Do you want Cray here? I
think that that would be a boost in that clubhouse.

(01:57:45):
And I think he's a guy that at least had
been having a good season. I haven't paid his close
attention lately, but that, of a lot of the names
that we've heard, would interest me the most. Two sixty
seven seven homers, thirty one's batter than this year, so
he'd fit right in.

Speaker 6 (01:58:01):
With the Astros. I mean underproductive. I've had the Astros
aren't under I was being joke. I'm talking about because
the eight guy's been injured. The Bats haven't been explosive
yet this year. Yeah, when you've been we talked listen,
kore a hell of a player, and we know what
kind of glove he's got. But it goes back to
like when aj Prizinski was talking about Gino Suarez yesterday. Well, Shawn,

(01:58:26):
it's great, you'd love to have him, but put it
this way, Korea comes here, or it goes back to
the paradis may be gone for the year. If if
he does, I'm dead dead serious. That hamstring if it's
a severe enough to bring somebody else in at that position,
knowing that you're under contract and you're coming back, where's
he gonna where's he gonna play? He's been yours consistent

(01:58:50):
hitter as you had, So is it just you just hurt? Sorry? No,
praise is a good player, and he played pretty damn
good third base. Now Karrea is Korea. Of course, he's
got history here and we know how he is in
the postseason, and he'll be better here than he was
in Minnesota. You just will. But I ask you, this,
isn't it blatant if they go get one of those
guys that you don't plan on seeing Paradis anytime anytime soon?

(01:59:13):
I think we can guess that that is probably going
to be the hamstring strain. Brother. This is a lot
more serious than that. So my point is, I mean,
if if that's the case, if you bring one of
those guys in, you ain't getting sware. I mean, uh,
praatis back next week. But for me, what are you
giving up for Korea? Because it really isn't he right now?
It should be in the prime of his career, should

(01:59:34):
be right, So what are you giving up to get him,
and yes, the boost in the clubhouse and all that.
But the point is is, are you would you part
with Matthews for him? Would you part with Melton and
Matthews for him? Would you what are you willing to
give up to have it? Yes? Yes, the answer is yes,
because it's not gonna be one for one, right, They're

(01:59:54):
going to ask more.

Speaker 7 (01:59:55):
From because I'm I'm also I'm playing him at third
base because playing shortstop seemingly has ground him down where
he missed his time. But if I play him over
at third base, maybe you.

Speaker 6 (02:00:06):
Get a little bit more longevity. And I trust that
he can play it. I'm not worried about that. It's
just I don't know, man. But if anytime you can
get a player of his calibery back, but what are
you willing to sacrifice to get him?

Speaker 7 (02:00:16):
Do you imagine that first game if you do get
him back and over there at dyk In Park, the
people who say, oh my god, thank god I didn't
give this a good will, I still got it.

Speaker 6 (02:00:26):
It's still fits. Yeah, I mean it'd be pretty cool.
Does anybody else wear jersey one? He's number one?

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
Right?

Speaker 6 (02:00:31):
Yeah, he was number one.

Speaker 7 (02:00:32):
I don't think anybody else has right other than willing
to various years ago. I can't remember anybody else life
that I'm talking about now. Nobody wears it now, Well,
it'd be a great reunion.

Speaker 6 (02:00:40):
It would be. I know, we got callers to get
to as well, so we go to them next break
before Dana Brown. Let's do it. So we'll do that
right here as we get into the nine o'clock hour.

Speaker 7 (02:00:47):
Don't forget Dana Brown going to join us in about
fifteen minutes here for his weekly visit. Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven to ninety KD.

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Speaker 7 (02:01:36):
Texans back out on the practice field. Let's get some
of you on the phone lines. Steve on the northwest side,
you've been waiting Steve.

Speaker 6 (02:01:43):
Good morning, Good morning, jial man. Can y'all hear me perfectly.
How are you.

Speaker 11 (02:01:50):
I'm doing fantastic, guys.

Speaker 10 (02:01:51):
Hey, you know, I am so complexed on this, on
this topic because on one hand, I said, I tell myself,
you know, the owners have actually put themselves in this
position because of the outlandish salaries that they're paying. I mean,
Juan Soda seven hundred million, and then you got Judge.

Speaker 11 (02:02:10):
You know, I don't know if I mean. You guys
are the same age as me.

Speaker 10 (02:02:14):
But when I grew up and got cable, I could
watch the Braves because it was a Turner network.

Speaker 11 (02:02:19):
And I could watch the I could watch the Cubs.

Speaker 10 (02:02:21):
Because they were always on TV and they had the
money to back themselves basically, and you know, it's an
owner of signing the checks. So when he signed that
check for seven hundred million, and now all of a sudden,
they want to throw their hands up and go, man,
we didn't create this, but we need somebody to put

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a salary cap on this because these guys are getting
paid too much.

Speaker 11 (02:02:45):
Well, no they're not.

Speaker 10 (02:02:46):
You paid them exactly what you thought they were worth.
If they weren't worth it, then they wouldn't have changed
move teams and you wouldn't have signed them, you know,
how do you think the people in the A's those
those people think.

Speaker 11 (02:02:59):
I mean, they're gonna go, They're gonna move over to.

Speaker 10 (02:03:04):
Las Vegas, and that team's gonna be the same until
they start winning. Yeah, the first five six years is
gonna be oh my god, we got a team here.

Speaker 11 (02:03:14):
But wait till the dog years when there's there's you know, they're.

Speaker 10 (02:03:17):
Fifty and fifty and eighty and they're they're sucking like
they are now.

Speaker 11 (02:03:22):
I mean, it's gonna be the same thing.

Speaker 10 (02:03:24):
And unfortunately in this day and age, it's hard to
go to a baseball game. Guys, me and my wife
go to a baseball game. It costs me almost one
hundred and fifty dollars.

Speaker 11 (02:03:32):
For me and my wife.

Speaker 10 (02:03:34):
And that's if we go on Tuesday night and it's
a dollar dog night. So, I mean, the something's gotta change.
I think the owners have got to come down to reality,
and if they want the fans in the stands, they
have to come down to reality and say.

Speaker 6 (02:03:48):
Look, I guess we're gonna have to uh wait time,
what'd you say? They say to say, look what you
cut out? Yeah? You said the fan there is gonna
have to say the fans look.

Speaker 11 (02:04:01):
What, no, the fans.

Speaker 10 (02:04:05):
I mean, the owners are gonna have to say, look,
you know, guys, we're gonna have to do that.

Speaker 11 (02:04:08):
We're gonna not We're not gonna have any fans.

Speaker 10 (02:04:10):
Of course, you're gonna have the Yankees, They're always gonna
have their fans, the Mets, the Phillies, people like that.
But I mean, you look at the A's and you
look at you look at the teams like Kansas City.
I mean, I'm surprised they signed Bobby Witt to that contract.

Speaker 11 (02:04:22):
The money that he could have got a free agency
would have been astronomical.

Speaker 6 (02:04:26):
Okay, so do you want a salary capper? Do you
want a salary capri not Steve?

Speaker 11 (02:04:31):
I do, yes, sir, I do.

Speaker 6 (02:04:32):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (02:04:33):
I think it's it's something that you have to fair enough.

Speaker 6 (02:04:36):
So that's gonna be the The players are gonna resist
that more than the owners are, and you and I
both know it. So we'll see how that goes. It's
almost like we can expect a web staffage.

Speaker 10 (02:04:45):
If we don't have baseball, then they're gonna have to
go out and find the other another.

Speaker 6 (02:04:50):
There you go, Yeah, appreciate it. Yeah, appreciate you, brother,
appreciate it. We got the gist to what he's saying.
I think a lot of people are gonna field the
same way, bothered the owners made this bed and that
the owners you know, created this, and that some are
going to spend them if there may be the Dodgers
may not want a sour cap. I don't know. They're
over the luxury all the time and they just want
to keep it. Maybe, but the majority owners are going

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to say, we've got to get this under control, and
that'll be good for the fans.

Speaker 7 (02:05:16):
But the players are going to fight it. The players
are not going to want to deal with that. Billionaires
have different problems than millionaires. Millionaires have different problems than thousandaires,
which are most of us.

Speaker 6 (02:05:24):
And the paycheck to paycheck folks who can't afford to
go to a baseball game, four too three a three
game series. So that that's coming to a head soon
and it'll be here before you know it. And we're
gonna definitely get that here in about a year and
a half. Rich on the northwest side, real quick, before
we get to Dana Rich what's going on?

Speaker 12 (02:05:41):
Yeah, I'm right before data. I was making a joke
the other night. I said Nick Kirk for Oakumb's gonna
er for the age is gonna hit eighty five home runs.
Then I went five years from that when he's playing
for the Yankees after Paul Goldsmith retires with that short
right field, which is what's wrong with baseball. That's a
perfect example right there. Also, Lance McCullers is the Godfather's

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Carlos Career's kid, so that'd be pretty interesting to see
what's gonna happen. I said this couple of days. You know,
Grey said he would only play third base for Francisco Lindor. Well,
maybe he changes his mind and isn't he Isn't he
a free agent at the end of the season. I
thought the thirty five million was up at the end
of this year, so he'd be a rental technically, I think.

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And then also I was hoping that Bertlemanner would get
released by the Giants and the Astros could pick him
up for the playoff stretch when all the injuries, the
pitchings that was at But he's been pitching well the
last couple of games. And the one more thing I
want Dana to answer this question. Kate Myers eighty nine
games this year, one game two home runs, seven RBIs.

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Now some of the games he came into the defensive replacement,
so he didn't get his spoort backs. The other eighty
eight games one home run and only sixteen RBIs. I've
never seen a guy here in three oh eight with
a three sixty eight. I'm big percentage. That's so unproductive.
I think he's the one that gets traded minis potos
of Bucks that can go play left field, and we

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get Korea, not somebody else. And we need to keep
Jacob melting too. By the way, thanks guys.

Speaker 6 (02:07:11):
I appreciate it. Rich What if I told you on
the Korea thing that there's left hand they've been talking
left handed hitters right, that there's some more available options
to play infield that hit from the left side, or
maybe even give you a switch hitting, but hit the
left handed options, and he wouldn't be a rental.

Speaker 7 (02:07:32):
By the way, he's vesting option kicks in in twenty
twenty nine, so you would have him for the next
three years.

Speaker 6 (02:07:38):
That's one two is, and I believe it is. Dana
Brown always talks about it's a good thing that keeping
one eye on the present and one eye on the future,
and so where where does Korea fit into that? Among others?
But if the emphasis is on a pitcher and then
to go get a left handed bat that can play

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the infield, then that doesn't include the guy in Minnesota.
The question is, and what's he making now?

Speaker 7 (02:08:05):
Well, the money drops off a lot after this season.
He's thirty seven point three right now, it's thirty two
point eight, thirty one point eight, thirty one point three.

Speaker 6 (02:08:14):
You wouldn't play kay, You didn't sniff thirty million dollars
with Bregman and Tucker and both are more productive hitters.
Sometimes it's the waiting and I'll see the most right
and also sometimes in this case, and if he does
come here, sometimes you get to the point where you
say the timings everything right, and you'd anticipate the third
basem and get hurt. I uh, the mention of Kray,

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I'm sure he's going to get people excited. I just
I'm not. I'm not sure that's going to be the move,
But I get why people would want it one hundred percent,
and I would imagine he'll play better offensively here.

Speaker 7 (02:08:48):
There's still more with this, and we'll pick this up,
but I do want to give you in us plenty
enough time with astros Gmdana Brown, so we'll do that.
He's coming up right here for his weekly visit. It
is the Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (02:09:02):
Barrels his way to the basket.

Speaker 3 (02:09:04):
I'm the windowing it.

Speaker 6 (02:09:05):
Hey is Jay Shante. Back to the Shawn Salisbury Show
on Sports Talk seven ninety Black.

Speaker 8 (02:09:14):
Ship Station of your Rockets.

Speaker 6 (02:09:18):
Dana, welcome in. So let's get to the first things first,
because wins matter, and they're tough to come by. The
struggles over the five games previous, but got back at
it and a little healthier. Having paying you back. That
must have felt good energy wise into the building for
you last night.

Speaker 1 (02:09:34):
Yeah, I mean we should get paying you back here
by the end of the week. And so you know
he's going to rehab assignment. That's all that's outstanding. So
we feel good about that. We could really use them,
you know, with all of these injuries that we have.
But look, we're still optimistic. The team is, you know,
still fourteen games over, four games up in first place

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despite all of these injuries, and I think the boys
are showing grit and they're getting after it.

Speaker 6 (02:10:00):
Dana, what's been before we get to the trade deadline
and talking about what what's kind of keep you obviously
busy here in the next twenty four to forty hours. Well,
what's been the biggest aside from the grit just to
maybe just the actual production, what has been the most
impressive thing about your team this year?

Speaker 1 (02:10:20):
Yeah, I think the big thing is, uh, you know,
the coaching staff has really done a really good jobs.
These guys have kept the boys calm and you know,
steady and stay focused. And you know, we we any
any major league club is going to go through the
ebbs and flows of ups and downs. And you know,
I just think the leadership that Joe A. Spot has

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shown down in the clubhouse has been you know, outstanding
and and so you know, there, don't panic, Let's keep
playing our game, play our style of baseball. And I
think the pitching has really kept us in, you know
for the most part, the pitching and defense and then
and through it, through it all, you know, we've got
we've gotten some time hits. So uh, you know, it's

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a collective thing that it's what good teams do, you know,
when they're when they're under the stress of injuries.

Speaker 6 (02:11:09):
Tana Brown astros GM here on a Wednesday, a little
earlier than normal normally at nine thirty. Great to have
him on, Dana. Is there any chance that you do
nothing between now and the end of the trade deadline tomorrow?
Does that exist?

Speaker 1 (02:11:24):
Look, I'm going to remain optimistic to do whatever we
can do, uh, you know, to make this club better.
And so you know, without getting into any of the hypotheticals,
we're more focused on trying to make this club better.
And uh, you know that's our focus right now. And
we get locked in, you know, the trade deadline, and
you know, of course you have to deal with other teams,

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and you know, sometimes you're at the mercy of making
this trade or that trade depends on you know, if
you can get get things to match up. But we're
optimistic about making club better.

Speaker 6 (02:11:55):
Yeah, and it's that seems that has been your approach
every year, which has been great. So with this tied
into injuries and doing everything you can to upgrade and
give your team a chance to be back in and
win a World Series. So for instance, and I know
we can't get into specific names, we're not allowed to
with the tampering part of it, but positions if you
were to go out and get a corner infielder. Does

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that tell us that Parades is very, very severe injury
wise if it happens to be that corner of infielder.

Speaker 1 (02:12:25):
Listen, here's what I would say. We're going to get
a second opinion update on Parrettis and then we'll know
a lot more you know about his status. But right now,
you know, we're just focused on making this team better.
You know, it's maybe potentially trying to add a bad
if we could, you know, and you know, if we
can add an arm, that would be great too, But
the whole goal is to make this team better. You know,

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we we still have to get an update on Parretic.

Speaker 6 (02:12:50):
Okay, So with that goal, is the priorities exist? Is
it the pitcher first, starting pitcher first, or the bat first?
If you only had one, which way would know what's
the priority?

Speaker 1 (02:13:02):
Yeah? The priorities. You look for impact first, right, you
want to impact the major league team. And if if
the impact is the bat, you take the bat. If
the impacts an arm, you take the arm. And so
with these trades they could get tricky, and so you
look for impact because whatever impact you get, that's going
to help the major league team the most. And so
let's look for impact first. That's the priority.

Speaker 6 (02:13:21):
Hey Dana Brown Astros GM a couple more minutes here
on Sports Talk seven ninety Dana, do you when it
comes to at this time, it's got to be difficult
because you're looking at injuries saying, well, with the Javier
and Garcia and Payna close and the names that are close,
but it's got to effect because the trade deadline's going
to end before you can maybe make the get some

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of those guys back. How deep into this do these
injuries have with the current roster and you're making a
deal to impact the team that's got to come into
play correct.

Speaker 1 (02:13:53):
Well, here's what I would say. Look, at the end
of the day, we feel very comfortable about getting our
core back, you know, whether it's Pine, whether it's Arraghetti,
where there's Javier, whether it's Alvarez, whether it's Meyers. You know,
we feel really comfortable about getting our core back and
waiting on more from Predis, but ultimately we do have
a good core of guys coming back, which is going

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to be very important to his team. Once these guys
come back, we're still going to have a good amount
of games left to make a push or a run,
and so that's where our focus is. And so when
you take that with all the all the players that
we have coming back and now if you could just
add some type of impact at the trade deadline, that's

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really improving this club. And this is the club that's
in first place. We're four and a half, we're four
games up. I'm sorry, and you know we're fourteen over
five hundred. So that's the whole goal. The goal is
to get better. As you get later, and as you
get later in the season, you get better, the things
will happen.

Speaker 6 (02:14:54):
Also means bodies. Dana Brown a couple more minutes here
on Sports Talk seven to ninety Dana, how close do
we think without you know, I know it's hard to
put a deadline on that with the injuries. How close
is Jordon Alvarez to being up with the big club?

Speaker 1 (02:15:09):
Yeah, I mean we project that, you know, he could
be back with the big clubs as soon as the
middle of August. I mean, he's starting to hit right now.
We're building up the intensity to get him going, and
so you know, we'll give him a day off here
and a day off there, just to you know, let
the hand rest because things are going well right now,

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and we'll you know, we'll just have to see. It's
tough to put a deadline in terms of a date,
but you know, we feel good that you know, it
could be somewhere in the middle of August and he's
making a lot of progress.

Speaker 6 (02:15:45):
And Dan, if it turns out the way you want
with these injuries, getting right and getting your core plays
and you've talked in the past about hell, getting yord
On or Howvier and those guys back is like making
a big trade at the deadline because bodies you haven't
had in a while, and some longer than a little bit.
So with that in mind, Javier and Garcia and arrag
Getty and I know we speculate you got the job

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to do, but from our vantage point we do. Then
I guess it's a good problem to have to be
able to say, well, we got now, we got a
surplus and we're getting healthy, when other teams are struggling
with their health. Then what do you do with the decisions?
If you had the conversation about decisions now we got
eight starting pitchers, about how you're going to go that
distance and how you're going to go that way if
it presents itself.

Speaker 1 (02:16:27):
Yeah. Absolutely. Look, you know we're gonna get a decent
core of these guys back, right, and so it's going
to create some competition and it's also going to create
you know, this depth that you have, depth deep into
the season is your friend, and so you we we
need that depth, and you know, we may have option

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a guy here or there, but we're having constant communications
and roster talks and one of the big things is
we just really have to make sure that we build
these guys up in the right way because we don't
want to want them to experience any more injuries. And
so we'll we'll we'll take our time to make these
roster adjustments. But make no mistake, the depth that's coming

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is going to be your friend, not your enemy.

Speaker 6 (02:17:13):
Dana, do do do people call often about getting one
of your pitchers? I don't care if it's bullpen or starting,
no name necessary, But do you get a lot of
calls or more calls on pitching or your everyday players
right now?

Speaker 1 (02:17:27):
Yeah? Look at the mix of what you get calls on.
You know, one week it could be you're getting more
calls on pitching. Another week could be you're getting more
call on the back on the hitters, and so you know,
it varies, but you know, we have a good core
of players with a really good team, and so we
get hit up for our players and and uh, but
ultimately we'd like to keep this good corps together. We'd

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like to try to add to it and and and
make it a little bit better. Uh, for this run
and this stretch of trying to get back to the
postseason and get deep into the postseason?

Speaker 6 (02:18:00):
Are you seeing are you seeing more for the more
that you'd like to see from Christian Walker's It's starting
to come into play for you, Dana that this okay,
we're starting to He's starting to rear its head a
little bit more.

Speaker 1 (02:18:11):
Well, Christian Walker has been really he's been right. Yes, yeah,
he's been really good. He's been coming through for us.
And you know that's what the true professionals do. You know,
when some of the stars go down, you know, they
carry that that workload and they really turned the corner.
And he's been that guy that he's starting to turn
the corner. It's been fun to watch and I think

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the best is still yet to come. And you know,
well it'd be great if you could just really continue
this progress, get red hot right toward the end of
the season, carry that into the postseason and had to
be a beautiful thing for the Astros.

Speaker 8 (02:18:46):
Dana.

Speaker 6 (02:18:46):
You know, I don't think we talk about this guy much.

Speaker 7 (02:18:49):
You do it.

Speaker 6 (02:18:49):
I know how much you love him, and we talk
about him on the show all the time. And this
has absolutely nothing to do with trade or not trade,
just simply the guy. I don't think Victor Carrottin is
a backup catcher in Major League Baseball and most teams, right,
you're fortunate with the depth and with Yin or here.
I mean, I don't know, I just I just give
your thoughts on Victor Carrottini's game all the way around.

Speaker 1 (02:19:12):
Yeah, look, see victim play a lot on other clubs.
You know, as you mentioned, we do have depth. You've
seen teams win the World Series with a guy like
Victor Carrattini behind the plate, A veteran guy, switch hitter,
guy who do a few things. And so yes, he
is a really good player, and you know, if he
was on some other team, you know he probably would

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be getting you know, most of the time behind the plate,
and oftentimes you realize, like, look, these players love to
be part of winners, and he knows he's going to
get a lot of the bats here. He loves it
here in Houston. And look, it's a good place for
him to be. He loves it here. We need him,
we want him. He's a great backup.

Speaker 6 (02:19:54):
All right. I'll ask you this before I let you go,
because I know you got stuff to do, and I
appreciate your time, my man, and moving this up so
we could get you and accommodate you and get you
on here because we needed it. Will your team tomorrow
be improved by the end of tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:20:09):
That is the goal. We're locked into it. We're focused,
we're dedicated, We're having a ton of conversations, and that's
the goal. The goal that the deadline is to improve
the team, and the priority is to try to get impacts.

Speaker 6 (02:20:23):
Can't wait to see it. And we appreciate your time.
Thanks for moving it up so we could get you
in today. And good luck not only the rest of
the way, but good luck in these next thirty hours
or so with what you got to do.

Speaker 8 (02:20:32):
My man.

Speaker 6 (02:20:33):
I don't envy it, but I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (02:20:35):
We appreciate you, absolutely, We appreciate you as well. Let's
go astro fans returning the corner.

Speaker 6 (02:20:41):
There you go appreciate it, Dana, that's Danon Brown. We'll
come back and discuss. I think that you know that
sub's going to happen between now and tomorrow. The question
is who, what and how many sports sook seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:20:54):
The Sean Salisbury Show continued. I kind of got the
sense that he's got to be awfully careful. Oh, he's
very very with not only the guys that he's got,
but also potentially the ones that he could add.

Speaker 6 (02:21:07):
YEP. Is that the effort is there.

Speaker 7 (02:21:10):
If nothing else, he's letting us know that they're making
the calls, they're doing what they can, and they're optimistic
that they can try to find a way to make
this team better core coming back all of those different things.
I think, if nothing else, too, there's no guarantees. I mean,
I think that it's for his job. Public perception doesn't
necessarily matter, but it is also a well did you

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try or did you say that you tried and you
really didn't. And I think that if nothing else, that's
just kind of what we got is that they're trying. Well,
data faces this.

Speaker 6 (02:21:43):
If he don't make a trade, what in the un
and I have talking to any break you don't care,
you don't want to win to Will's why this team's
in first place by four games. He didn't make a deal.
What we also have to understand this isn't free agency.
The other team has to want to play and the
other team also may have four people that they're discussing
to get more. And it's about just like follow the
money trail in life, follow the how do I make

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my roster better? In life too when it comes to trade.
So if all of a sudden, the Yankees or whoever
is offering two more players than you are for the
same player, what do you think you're doing? You got
to battle them so you're not just battling. If you know,
if you're in a trade talks with Arizona or the
Dodgers or Minnesota, you're also battling three and four of

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the teams that are doing the same thing. It's like
the guy who's recruiting a full five star quarterback, you
ain't the only one, pal, He's recruiting three or more others.
Who's first? And what is it I got to get
to get it? Well, now it's what do I got
to pay him to get him now. So in this,
of course he wants to make the roster better. There's
no way in hell unless all of a sudden everybody says,
you know that we're going to collude and not trade

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with the Astros. He is making a deal, and maybe
more than one, because he's been good at it, and
it sounds every time I interviewed Data Brown, Dana Brown
well an eye to the future, at least one eye
of it. Dana Brown every year he comes in here
wants to win. I mean, and I think it's obvious
because he's doing something all the time. So right, as

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long as you know the efforts there, then you got
to go in and you got to get a player
with you, meaning somebody wants to talk trade with you.
But if it's interesting, because I would imagine he is
so tired of having to try and be specific without
being specific, because they've got to protect his players of
you know, and you get into it, yes the hamstring,
and make no mistake, he can't say it and we

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can't about specific players, and we can speculate that can't
be him because he's got a deal in real life
when it comes to this, but a deal for a
third baseman. If they make a deal for a third baseman,
that'll mean the second opinion is not good on paradis
that's a I already think that we know that it's
pretty severe. According he's used the words more severe than

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we expected, right, I think that's a pot that I
don't know who it's going to be, and I don't
know if they're going to pull it off. But you
damn well though, they're talking to somebody about that, which
means in my opinion, I'm not a doctor. The parade
is saying, listen, he just said hopefully by the middle
of the month for Jordne in August that hamstring. If
he ain't moving by then, you're talking September if you're lucky.

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If it's torn or off the bone, he ain't playing
the rest of the year. If it's a strain, which
when you say severe, severe is I mean when you
say severe, that doesn't usually it isn't sympatical with a strain.
Severe is more sympatical with a pull or a tear.
In my opinion, from what I've heard in the past
about people well.

Speaker 7 (02:24:34):
And it's also to just look at the you know,
their past, the track record when it comes to this
when it's really good news, it's out there quick. Jordan Alvarez,
he goes and sees the specialists the very next day
encouraging news for this one. They know, but they know
that it's it's not going to be a good report.
And you could ask three times.

Speaker 6 (02:24:54):
That's why they're going to get a second opinion, to
hope that there's a little bit of light to see.
But he's more more than likely, I would say, going
to tell you within I don't know a few a
few polls of telling you that this is this is severe,
it's going to take a minute now, and then you
don't know the threshold of pain for the player and
come back is it going to linger? I would imagine

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also that for Dana Brown, the toughest part of this
it's not who you got to give up to get
that's all you saying goodbye or telling a player that
wants to be a player that's hard that that I mean,
it's hard, but it's business and you're in it. But
especially if it's a guy like a young player like
let's say Jacob Melton for a second, that that that
that'd be hard to tell a guy that you think
is going to be a you plan on, you draft

(02:25:37):
him to be a star in this league. That that
part's got to be a little difficult. But you also
know is it making us better now? And with an
eye to the future one eye and the one the
other one to the present, because you owe to the
players that are playing here. Al Tuove, like I said, yes,
you think al Tuove cares about twenty thirty not right now,
he doesn't. But what he cares about is twenty twenty
five and them winning, in him contributing, and them doing

(02:25:59):
whatever they can and to go try to put another
ring on their finger. I would imagine another big challenge
for Dana brown Is, and that's why I asked it.
Dan Is, with all these potential bodies coming back did
pitching wise, but they're not back. You know what would
be easier if Hobvier and Garcia and Spencer Araghetty were

(02:26:23):
already here pitching at the major league level. But you're
still in me, what if there's a setback, Hopefully we'll
get this guy back. And now you're sitting on top
of this thinking, Okay, I can't live on hope. I
got to live on the reality that the trade deadline's coming,
and you almost got to err on the side of
they're not going to be who they are. If you're

(02:26:43):
going to get that position, that makes sense. And if
they do come back, then you've got a great bonus
as long as you haven't mortgaged your future right with
that one I we're talking about. I'm telling you that
when there's rumors flying not just locally but nationally combined
with locally, dude, there is a chance, and I think
this could literally happen, that you get a right handed
starter as a pitcher and a significant one, and you

(02:27:08):
also cover your third base side. Now I don't know
who it's going to be, but you cover that position.
I actually think there's more than one body coming here.
I don't think it's gonna be. If you said, Sean,
what would you bet over one and a half or
under of players, I'm taking the over. I now what
they're giving up, I don't know, but I am taking
the over on that because there's so much talk the

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third base thing hit us when we didn't expect it
to hit us. It's it's it's obviously important. And then
the pitching thing, while you're hoping this staff is so
good at the top you can't keep you can't hope
that the rest of it's good. And if Dylan Ce's
names keeps getting mentioned by more than one reporter that
there's obviously been talks. I think they asked us to

(02:27:54):
get better, and and I do know Dan is obviously
on a on a path getting better, better with a
third basement and a starting pitcher or a bullpen arm
that you like that's getting better. Question is what are
you giving up to get him? I don't think we're
going to be at the end of the day tomorrow,
Dan saying man bummer Astros didn't do anything, but you

(02:28:17):
do have to have somebody that wants to play with
you in the sandbox.

Speaker 7 (02:28:20):
And when Dana Brown's made trades in the last couple
of years, it seems like it's come on this day,
the day before the deadlines. So we'll see if they
follow a similar trend this year. But we can continue
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Speaker 7 (02:31:13):
The Sean Salisbury Show continued, you know, with talking with
Dana Brown a few minutes ago, but also too before
we brought Dana Brown on, there was the report out there,
Like I said, Bob Nightingale with it. Then Brian McTaggart
saying sources telling me, yeah, the Astros could still be

(02:31:33):
in on Carlos Correa. That's the possibility of bringing him
here through a trade. And I mean you look at
the contract and you say to yourself, all right, well,
then if you're gonna do that now, why wouldn't you
have done it back then?

Speaker 6 (02:31:46):
Vowed question?

Speaker 7 (02:31:47):
Get all of that, and then there's also the health
concern when it comes to Korea. But I also haven't
seen Carlos Coorea play a less strenuous position and see
how long that can keep him in the lineup and
keep him off the il and third base would definitely
be that.

Speaker 6 (02:32:03):
And here's the.

Speaker 7 (02:32:04):
Other part of it too, of what gets me on
the side of if it's there, do it and you
like it?

Speaker 6 (02:32:09):
Do it?

Speaker 7 (02:32:10):
Is trade possibility either he or estakperetis after the after
the offseason trade, and you're gonna be able to get
a good haul in return for either of those guys.

Speaker 6 (02:32:21):
Okay, so tell me how many games is Kray average
in Minnesota? Do we know how many games he's played
in it? What is it two years? Or we has
he been there three? Now is this year four years?
Let's see, he got there in twenty two, so two years,
so he's been there three? This is year four? Mm hmm, Okay,

(02:32:42):
how many games? How many wins? How many games played?
Does the average in a year average season? Let's see,
I'll just read him at like one twenty one sixty
one forty five the last three years.

Speaker 7 (02:32:55):
Last three years, he has been eighty six last year,
one hundred and thirty five the year prior, and one
hundred and thirty six the year before that. He's played
ninety three this year, so he's played most of the season.

Speaker 6 (02:33:05):
Okay, most of the season, played half the season last year,
as you said, eighty plus games, right, and then one
hundred and thirty some I'd prefer that up around higher
one forty, but I get that. I can live with that.
The question you have to ask is is his health
going to get better at third base as he gets older?
Is it just shortstop that's wearing him down because it's

(02:33:25):
a demanding position, or is this just who he's going
to be. You're going to give you a hundred max
out of a buck thirty buck thirty five a year. Okay,
I get it, and I don't think it's out of
the question. And I do believe that leadership the things
he brings, Yes, but you're also going to want production.
The question is what will it take to get you
to have him? You know what I mean, Dan, And
there's no doubt in my mind. Listen, if he had

(02:33:46):
to do it over again, Dan, there's no way he
doesn't want to be back here. I'm sorry. I'm sure
he loves the people in Minnesota and loves it, but
there has got to be something missing from him that
he didn't do.

Speaker 1 (02:33:58):
It.

Speaker 6 (02:33:58):
Doesn't get that he does that he had here. There
just wasn't a path for him to return. That was
the thing.

Speaker 7 (02:34:03):
They knew that Paine, he was ready, so they went
with them, and they wished him well and he went
on his way.

Speaker 6 (02:34:09):
And quite frankly, he's been He's been okay as a
player in Minnesota. He hasn't been the same player he
was here. No, he just hasn't. So you got to say,
is the decline because well it's just a worse team
and he is not used to it and he's not
comfortable or is he comfortable he's had some moments where
he's been really good or is this now who he

(02:34:31):
is now? I don't know the answer to that, But
wouldn't you say if you're going to trade from all
those questions matter? And it's still significant Dan, when we
say it's gone down, but thirty plus million is still
significant for a guy that's no that's going to move,
It's going to change positions.

Speaker 7 (02:34:46):
If he comes here, I just think you run into
a similar Jeter and Arod, but it.

Speaker 6 (02:34:51):
Does, there's no doubt, and the Patruder production, there's no doubt.
But and then you have to ask how healthy will
he be? And all those pairing the two players on
the same Visionario. Yeah, yeah, And I know exactly what
you're saying. I want somebody to drive off the road.
Do you just say, well, somebody's going to somebody's going
to anyway, it happens, right, I'll be driving through it

(02:35:12):
on the way home, that's right, So I Dan, I'm
I I don't maybe not a lot, because you know
Brian McTaggart and the guys that are talking about reporting,
and I obviously trust and know that they're dialed in.
But I think there's a lot of layers you have
to ask yourself for him, and maybe maybe there may
maybe there isn't a lot of layers for them, But
it would seem that injury price you weren't willing to

(02:35:35):
pay thirty a couple of years ago. He's old, three
years old or four years older now, and now you're
at thirty plus.

Speaker 7 (02:35:42):
I don't stop this team before. I mean, you just
you just gave twenty million to a guy. It's in
his mid thirties. He's going to be thirty one next season,
but he's thirty right now, right still still really good base.

Speaker 6 (02:35:52):
But I don't think it's out. I'm just posing the
the other side of what are you willing to do
and give up? And then you're going to give up
something for him that tells you that, oh yeah, he
is he the missing piece to the puzzle. I guess
is what I'm asking. Is he the guy that's automatically
of course he makes a position better? Now the praise
is there. Let me ask you this, would you trade

(02:36:16):
for Correa? If Preadus was healthy, it was going to
be back in ten days, is what I mean? Not healthy?
Absolutely not. So it's so you would not want to
put Kara in Paradus's spot. Preidis has been more productive
as a hitter this year. But if you knew he
was going to be backerwise, yes, if that's what I'm saying,
If you knew he was going to be back overall

(02:36:36):
more production he just has. If you knew he was
going to be back in two weeks, would you trade
for Korea? No? Then we're not on this discussion. Okay,
So it's to say it's the trade thing and the
opening of the position that makes you say I'm willing
to pay thirty plus million to go get him, because
then I think it's a question that's going to be askeding.
It may pull it off, and if he does, we'll
welcome him back with open arms. The question is, and
then what's Minnesota want for him?

Speaker 8 (02:36:58):
Well?

Speaker 6 (02:36:59):
When I do the future what i's's.

Speaker 7 (02:37:01):
The thing though, too, is that the package would tell
you how much they're willing to pay up or how
much you're willing to pay up impactful. I didn't say
wowtherwise players going back, but I didn't say the best
player in the league or all that. But if I
told you I took the over on one and a
half players between now and tomorrow, a pitcher and an
everyday player, what say you under for now? Over by

(02:37:24):
the deadline, So after we're done with the.

Speaker 6 (02:37:25):
Show, Okay, that's what I by by the time deadline's over,
was it'ld be one and a half players. They go over,
you're taking the over?

Speaker 7 (02:37:31):
Yeah, all right, fair mission player, pitcher, there you go,
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