Astros Beat Pirates, Rafael Montero DFA'd, Texans HOF Game, USA Olympic Standings

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsbury. Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury, usc truths, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Brian Lima, go Lobos. This is the Shawn Salsbury Show.
Good news. Ashroals don't get swept by the Pirates. It
was a little bit uh four to nothing at one point.
Ashers come back do Bond with a big pinch hit

(00:36):
off the bench home run, that's the go ahead. They
end up winning five to four. Shawn Triple League, good morning,
Good morning. Pirates did not break out the brooms thankfully.
South Sudanese don't take down the men's Olympic team and
the Ashles are off today. Hey, in Shawn Hall of
Fame game tonight, you want me to fire up play Walker?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Sure you can do it every segments.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
For the rest of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, every segment.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, Okayleb Williams is not going to play neither of CJ.
Stroud and probably no other starters. But hey, football is
back baby.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, isn't it amazing? I mean to do it. You
know they're not going to play. You still have it
and people are gonna show up, but they're not going
to get to see their starters. But it's just the
fact that football's here, which is a good thing.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Football is back, even though it's just a Hall of
Fame game. Audre Johnson's gonna have his jersey retire or
excuse me now, jersey retired. He's going to be enshrined
in Canton this weekend, which is always a big deal.
Obviously the first Texans player to be added to the
Pro Football Hall of Fame. But you know, for the

(01:44):
Houston Astros, they avoid that sweep. Like I said, they're
fifty six and fifty two. Mariners lost, Rangers lost, Astros
are back tied for first place.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Right now, we can focus out the trade deadline's over
focus on Okay, winning games and moving up and trying
to do what you've been trying to do all year long.
Get back in first place, stay in first place, and
then go win the division and take it from there.
And I get from just comments from Dana Brown yesterday.

(02:17):
First off, I don't know why people think it's such
an easy gig. It's not that easy to make the
right move and trade all the time. But I get
the feeling that no matter what, even after the interview,
they they're still just not buying into the trade. I'll
say you I found it interesting when Dana did say
yesterday how much he loves you know and the human
and to play Joey Lo Perfido, but also mentioned they'll

(02:40):
be when he said there'll be a bunch more Joey
Low Perfido's coming through the minor leagues. When he said
that yesterday, so meaning not disrespect to low Brafito, meaning
in two or three years, just like we said in
two or three we'll replenish. When when you replenish, I
think people want answers, now, how you're going to replenish
the farm system. Well, you're you're you're in a chase

(03:02):
mode because of what happened from twenty seventeen, and you
replenish it. I mean it just you hope the prospects
hit that aren't you know, first round draft picks. I
mean you got to do your scouting department, which has
been a strength to his scouting talent is uh, you know,
at the top shelf and doing all the right things.

(03:23):
That's been a specialty for this group, whether it's international
players or whether it's you know, in the draft of
the development of players and finding key talent that you
didn't get. We got some that are on the starting roster.
Now that was not top first round pick, and it
wasn't Paul Skeens, and so it's going to take a minute,
but I will still I don't know how this trade's
going to work out, and I would remove remove it

(03:46):
from the Astros. If I'm a Red Sox fan, if
you're a Dodger fan, if you're a Padres fan, if
you're a Phillies fan, is I'm always win a ring
that that that's what I'm in it for. Out of course,
Now I'm even to the point sometimes well you're going
to give up, you know, like the one they give
up five prospects for Greg Zach Grinky. If you win

(04:08):
a World Series, it's worth it within that timeframe.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
It just is.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
That's the way I look at it. And maybe people
there's some that think that winning a World Series comes
pretty easy or getting there. Like we've said, what the
Astros are doing is not normal. Seven straight on for
an eighth straight ALCS. You know, it's not normal. So yes,
you'd love to have the benefit of like they did,
young players dominating, still working through a farm system of

(04:35):
loaded and winning World series, but eventually one of it's
going to give. Do your veteran players move on because
you can't afford them, or they're they're not as productive,
your young players aren't mature enough yet to get you
to a World Series, or it is or you didn't

(04:57):
draft properly and or go to free agency properly and
you lost on both ends. That hasn't happened here yet
in eight years. But eventually something's going to give in
order to get good players. I mean, it's I know,
it's a great thought process that hey, just your farm system,
it's you know, homegrown players are going to be there
the whole time, and that that's a great situation. If

(05:18):
you can do it, that's the goal. But at some
point in time, you're going to get close. If you're
a team and you're going to say I need one
player or two players, and you're going to trade three
or four of those prospects. That's why you load up
on them, one for your roster and two is to
have a plethora of choices so you can move them
to go get that one or two guys. Whether it's

(05:40):
football like the Kansas City Chiefs, whether it's basketball like
going and getting a guy at the trade deadline that
gets you over the top. Whether it's baseball, eventually you're
gonna have to give up some of them to go
get that Randy Johnson Cokushie's not Randy Johnson, but maybe
he pitches like an All Star. So I get the first,

(06:01):
but we we do rave over it because we think
about the potential of low Braffito. You know, you're like,
what's going on? But in truth, his production was very average.
If you just look get his production, you pointed out
that I'm just a very average correct. Oh yeah, I
mean if you didn't love the name Joey Lobrafido and
know the energy you brought and think what a bright future.
If you just look on the surface of this year,

(06:22):
you'd say, I can find that guy anywhere, Right, That's
what you'd say if you didn't know how the Astros
fans felt about him emotionally, and then he brought that
the that kicked to them. I get it. But the
whole thing is about winning. All as I say, is
go back to your sixty franchise wins a year, all
of us and say did you like that? No, but

(06:44):
we built at the pharmacism. Yeah, but it was a
miserable getting there, and then when you got there, you
want to stay there. So stay there. You got to
have a mix of veterans, a mix of people that
are homegrown. And every now and then at the trade deadline,
you got to go find You got to go find
a guy or two. They're trying to find a guy
or too, because he thinks our World Series two And
he said the choice is on him, the decision is
on him. So you know, I thought he was honest.

(07:06):
People get mad when you say, hey, listen, sometimes you
got to give up good players and get players. They
don't want to hear that. Of course you don't, but
that is the reality of pro sports. It just is.
I've been on a few teams, and you don't win
with average players. You just don't one or two average
guys that are smarter than everybody else that fit in

(07:26):
and come off the bench. Sure, you don't win with
average players. Give me a great talent with an average
manager coach, I'll still win. I'll overcome bad coaching, I
just will. If I got great players, give me great
manager with average talent. The manager or the coach will
get fired eventually. He can't pitch and k eventually, no

(07:46):
matter how good you are, you can motivate a ten.
But you can motivate a five too. But the five
and the ten. If you don't have the ten or
the nine on your roster, the fives aren't a bunch
of fives aren't winning titles, sorry to tell you. They're
just not look good. And Oakland's team's not winning many titles. Okay, sorry,
it is not. If you get both Bruce Bochi, their talent,

(08:09):
Dusty Baker, aj Hinch and that group of talent and
a great manager and great players come together and they
performin you win championships. So I don't know, have any
idea what's going to happen. We all should voice our opinion.
I love the opinion of all the fans and stuff
on the show and the listeners. But if you want
to go get a championship and it's well worth it,

(08:31):
losing low Berfiedo will be well worth it. In Bloss
and Wagner, if in fact they can go win a
World series, that's the goal. If they don't, then we
can judge away, and we can judge away now that's
no problem. But Kakuchi goes out there and pitch as well,
you know, cheer him up. It's not his fault. Hell,
you got traded. You don't have the one who made
the trade. So I just I know the frustration. But

(08:55):
if you read it, you'd think the Kakuchi's a hack
because you look at his numbers and he's a hack.
I have a hunch he's going to pitch a little
better here. That's just my gut feeling. But I don't
know if they're good enough to win a World Series.
I don't know if they're good enough to win a
World Series if they went and would have went and
got a crochet this year. I mean maybe their talent's
good enough. That doesn't mean the can they sustain seven
games of the Phillies? I don't know so, And who's

(09:18):
to say they can't win one without Kokuchi getting Verlinder
healthy if he does, and then the whole Kyle Tucker
situation's baffling to me. So there's a lot to look into.
You know that Dan brown Wig I kept him a
long time yesterday. Yeah, there's so much I had to
ask him then, But uh no, I find him being there.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, yeah, I just think with this trade deadline and
the amount of discussions that have been had, like from fans,
media personalities, you know, national writers were even discussing it.
I think the Athletic had them as like one of
the top losers at the trade deadline. I saw Ben
Verlander had some things to say about it. I think

(09:56):
it was uh, it was needed for us right here
in this of Houston and you asking him the things
that you did, and I want to get your opinion
on a couple of these answers that he had. I
know you were in the middle of that interview and
we didn't have time to go through it. But because
there's some things, some thoughts that I have and I
want to see your thoughts on them.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Those were all his thoughts yesterday for sure.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah. Yeah, and we haven't been able to discuss it.
But there's you know, for how long has he been
on with us. Let's see, we had James Click and
then Dana Brown.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
This is year here too, right, yeah, a year and
a half on and and yestually it was the first
time he didn't answer when I asked him what goes
what went into that meeting and making this decision, because
well we're gonna you know, the deciding, but well we're
going to keep that to our That's the.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
First time that he said something along those lines, right.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
That he did his answer. He still gave an answer, right,
but he didn't that he didn't give that. He didn't
give any body to the answer. Right. We're going to
keep what we talk about and how we go about
this in our building. That's that. That was fair. But
I had to I want to know the processing was
low Pafido first last, Well, we're gonna keep it, but
Low Braffiedo was a big part of the trade. I mean,

(11:07):
they knew that they had We're going to have to
move him in this obviously, it felt like yesterday. Yeah,
so yeah, I think that's a great idea about you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
I just I just feel like, you know, obviously he's
very transparent with us, and you know, I know fans.
I've seen comments on my on my Twitter feed over
the last i don't know, probably month, month and a half,
maybe two months, that people get tired of his people
complain about his I don't know, stereo quote quote unquote
stereotypical responses, right, But I feel like he's been more

(11:37):
transparent than any general manager that I mean, I know
it's only been him and James Click, but between him
and James Click, he's been more transparent than James Click ever.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Was well, do you remember when James Clint and we
love James click too? And Jeff Luno was great. We've
we've been fortunate. All three have been pretty pretty good
with us, right, really good. I mean we haven't had
to like, oh goshid we I don't feel like we're
laboring over My thing is what would you expect it?
I just say, what would you expect these guys?

Speaker 4 (12:02):
This?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
That's why Bregman when he gives his answers his board, right,
because if they don't, if they don't protect the team. See,
we want to know. We want to be inside the dugout.
We want to be inside that general manager's meeting. I
give you, you know, you ask questions to try to
get you in there, but they've got to protect some
part of it, right, And so what do we expect
when he says, listen, you got to give up town

(12:23):
to get down. People don't want to hear that again.
It what's he supposed to say? We thought that low
Brafedo was that average player. Yeah, so we traded him
and we didn't feel like that Wagner was a part
of our future and Loss is just a guy. Now.
Can you imagine if he said that, everybody defans would
be like yeah, but around me it'd be like, you
got to protect your players more, right, I mean, so

(12:44):
he's caught in between. We want to hear the truth,
but when we hear the truth, people say, what did
he just say? So that's the way is. But if
you remember with James Klick, you wont know how many
people are said, oh my gosh, and what's he talking about?
They want to click out of here so fast? You
I both heard a ton of did I mean they
wanted I mean, they liked him, but there were some

(13:05):
who thought, oh, James Click, he's not put The answer
was James clicks getting his answers from somebody else, which
is not fair I mean meaning he wasn't pulling the
strings right, So you're the same things. And James Click
was very good with us, and I thought James Clink
Click did a good job and they won a world series.
But it's amazing how much more credit we give them

(13:26):
when they're out of the building and you have to
compare them to the next one, because he's the one
given answer. So I think Dane has been whether we
want to hear it or not, he's answered most every question.
He may not like the answers, yeah, but he's been
pretty fair, he really has. And now the trades on
him and he's he's tied to it, so we're gonna
see if it works. But he made some good points
about swing and miss and the you know, the e

(13:48):
R A being a missile, a little miss LEI and
we go right to statistics when we want to bury
a guy or compliment him. Right, But I get our
fans passionate and I love it. And that's and I
think he does too, and that's why he said, just
bear with you know, the fans, just be patient. Let's
let's see the things play out. So he said some
things at the beginning of the year that we laughed at.
I mean that laughed at him, but like, come on, man,
you're ten games that you expect to be what go

(14:09):
on this role? And they did so at least we
got to, you know, fair time that the judgment comes,
and he said it yesterday. There's there's there's two there's
two times. You're gonna grade it early and then grade
it late. Well, most people have graded it early and
don't like it. Let's see what the the comeback grade is.

(14:29):
Let's see what the grade is while the student got
taught well and at the end of the semester, that's
when you'll grade it. And I think it's fair though,
for fans to question it. That's okay, And it's fair
for him not to tell us everything because I wouldn't
either if I was a GM and the fans don't
need to know everything. We just think we do.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
The Astros avoided the sweep last night. Let's take a
look at Fromber's outing struck out ten but struggled. That's
next on sports plok seventy.

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Speaker 3 (16:35):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Last night fromer Valdez
got the start six inning, six hits, four and runs,
struck out ten, gave up a bomb ninety two pitches
in that outing. He did get the win, but man
Shawn early it looked ugly down four to nine and
after two, but then goose eggs for the rest of

(16:55):
the time for the Pirates, he kind of settled back in.
But you know, you uh, you know how excuse me,
you know how it goes with Fromber. You see one
of these innings and you think, oh no, here we
go again. He's gonna implode, and he kind of figured
it out.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, that's the key last night is now that you
don't want to have to do that all the time.
But I can deal with that. Fromber finding his way
to fight through it and what No Walks correct struck out.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Ten last night, No Walks struck out ten.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Man, you give up runs and it's unfortunate happens. But
what are you going to do to get out of it?
It can't just be you pitch good when they when
you score first and you're up for nothing. You've got
to you've got to go through those, you know, the
unfortunate valleys at times you're going to go through. And
he's been, he's seen the movie yesterday, responded very well,

(17:45):
he did. You know, you get down, but it's a
pretty resilient team. You've lost, you know, three in a row,
two in this series, and you know, trade deadline talk
and all that. It would have been easy to say, okay,
we got to get out of let's get this team
out of our city and and regroup. Well you you know,
you pluck away and then do Bond's home run and
from were hanging in there. I see, I see. I

(18:06):
think these starts are how you build, how you build
turn into a great picture. I do. I don't think
it's the easy ones. I think it's these. I think
it's man down, here we go again. What are you
gonna do now? You walk two then walk a third
and then get into it inning and just say, now
they hung nine on you. Now you get down and

(18:26):
then you It sounds so cliche, but in baseball it's
the truest form of you just kind of chip away
at it, man, and then you get a big hit
and you give no free runners and get some swing
and miss and start to ease up the basse pass
and next thing you know, your team responds and then
they close it out. So it sounds elementary, but you

(18:47):
kind of draw it up that way. Okay, dude, if
you go through this, what's going to happen? And we've
seen the other way go through that, and in three
and a third it's like, what in the hell happened here?
But he was able to I don't want you just
to calm the storm, because that's that phrases used to off.
But he was able to settle in and and not
allow it to turn into eight runs. And there is

(19:11):
you know, the order responded a bit, and then they
closed it out at the end. So we play maybe
a little win the frustration, not making a big deal
of it because the trade deadline will win like that,
maybe the win that ends up sustaining sustaining their next
winning streak, and or at the end of the season,

(19:31):
you look back, say, man, can you imagine had from
broken sideways in that game the for for another two
innings and before you know, we lose that and then
you lose another tiebreaker, or you lose a division because
that now you're in a tiebreaker, because you're playing for
the wild card, because you lost to a National League team.
I mean all those things. So I say when I
when I see something like that, dude, I'm more of
a I get to the psychological big picture of it,

(19:53):
and I think that those wins are far more effective
for your team than win in nine to one do
I Honest to god, doe.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Is the number to join. Let's talk to Mike.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Mike, good morning, Good morning fellas. Yeah, talk about the
trade a little bit A no local, you know. Yeah,
I like him too, and I saw a bit of
his interview. He's very emotional about it. It's always good
as a fan to see a guy he wants to
wants to stay with your your team. Having said that,

(20:31):
I'm I'm I'm always speculating, guys, maybe this is a
sign because they've been a real tight, tight lift about this, guys,
Maybe tuckas close to getting back and we anticipated we
have a long dam in the outfield anyway, Andy Gosh,
I wish we could get more at bats with Dubon.
He he just seems to come up clutch every single time.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Hey, Mike, Kyle Tucker's not anywhere close to coming back.
Oh really, yeah, he's still He's barely doing any kind
of baseball activities. People have called in and told us
tweeted us that they see him at the ballpark with
a noticeable limp. Still me personally, I don't think he's
going to be back until September.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Wow, that's unfortunate. Kikinchi. I've watched you pitch once against
John Retzox memory serves I understand he eats at innings.
Maybe that can, you know, help our brow pins. We
just don't know. We're all guests at this point. What
kind of trades this is giving? Toned out to be guys,

(21:31):
That's really all I had you guys.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Have a good morning you as well, Mike, Thank you
and Mike.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
That's a great point. We really don't know, so let's
check it out and see the emotional side. No doubt
the trade really bothered everybody. But from the production standpoint,
let's go see and not worry about what Bloss does
four years from now, or who Wagner becomes, or if
low Perfederes are starting at I mean right away. But
on the surface it is twenty twenty four. This is

(21:57):
a twenty twenty four Let's see what it does for
us now. And you know, Dana said yesterday he believes
Kkuchi's the top three rotation guy. So you start to look, Okay,
who's that eliminated? If so, it's going to be fun
to watch and see if he responds to Dana Brown
in this organization's belief in him and the Kyle Tucker thing.

(22:17):
And Mike makes a great point, well, hopefully he's getting back.
I'm going to tell you if the limp is still there, Brian,
if we get to set, if we get through August
and he has not made a whole lot of progress,
he ain't playing the rest of the year. I want
you to think about that now. If he's feeling similar
thirty days from now in September, if he's still doing

(22:38):
the same thing, you expect to see him again this year.
I mean, dude, you're talking about that's thirty more games, right,
you expect about thirty twenty eight more games then we're there.
We're pushing thirty or for what the thirty five or forty? Mark? Yeah,
I mean I believe he's going to play. But if
we're talking September, which we have discussed that that's not

(23:02):
a bone bruise, Man, it can't be right.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
I mean, if it is, you're gonna get people. Unfortunately,
they're gonna start to question him. Do you get what
I'm saying? You will? I saw it on Twitter yesterday
a couple and it was harsh and not fair. But
if if it's just a bruise, it's easy for people
to question a bruise for three months. So and and
like I said, it's a severe one. No, I'm not

(23:28):
questioning that. But I think it's it's no pun intended
deeper than that. I can't imagine, but a bruise, I
just can't. If it is, it's the most harsh bruce
we've ever seen. We said it. So there's not much
more we can say about it other than, uh, it's
it's it's a freak injury because bruises off the shin
aren't supposed to last this long. They're just not.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
It's weird, man, and people will question it.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I'm just telling you they already are. And that's that's
unf fortunate because we don't know the pain threshold the
rest of it. But it is a strange injury. Question
is how much? How long can they hang in there
without their five tool right field or playing. They've done
it for a month and a half. Can they continue
to do this? It'll be two months August third, yep.

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seven ninety isn't ober to join stalk to Steve Steve,
good morning.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Good morning, sir.

Speaker 13 (29:03):
Can you give me some information what is Presley's era
compared to Martinez that we sent down to Triple A.
Let me get that for you, because I gotta tell you,
I think it's time for Presley to have some new scenery.
This guy ever since they got Hater and he's been
coming in. It just seems like I'll give you an

(29:24):
example last night when when they when they came back
from commercially and Presley was in the game, everybody in
the room to a man goes, ah.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Here we go again.

Speaker 13 (29:34):
For some reason, I guess he's just still just butt
hurt over the trade with with Hater. But god, lady,
this guy is just every time he comes in, he
puts people on base. He's either walking him now last
night I think they got a little fluke in a single,
but it just this guy just I think he's got
to go and and you know, I understand the Montero

(29:58):
getting rid of Montero. I understand, but I think Martinez
had a better upside than than Presley.

Speaker 14 (30:04):
And I'll hang up and listen, guys.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Thank you, Steve uh Ryan Presley this season three point
four to six, e r A Seth Martinez two point
nine to two. And just like Steve said, the Astros
did DFA Rafael Montero last night or prior to the game,
I should say, and Seth Martinez was set down. They
had to clear some spots for Caleb Ferguson and you say, Kakuchi.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
So and there was a point in time when Presley
went was fifteen innings without giving up a run? Was
that what was recent?

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:41):
My crep up until I mean he'd been I guess
it's the he's been better as of late, right, that's
the best way to put it, because he hasn't been
himself the most of this season, No, no question, no,
there's no question about it. So and I remember we
questioned it, well, would you feel the moded if that

(31:02):
was you? And even Dana Brown said, I can understand
why he would feel the moted because quite frankly, it
is a demotion, and he hasn't handled the adjustment the
way that he pitched as a closer, and hater hasn't
been an all star closer. And so when those two
things are going, you still you get a little bit

(31:25):
nervous at the back end of this bullpen. Now instead
of lights out going in, you're hmmm, is there a
flickering light coming out? It's it makes you nervous. When
it was five to four going in late in the
late innings, you know what that was? They got a
five four I'm thinking at the bottom of the ninth
inning or the top of the ninth inning, lookout, don't

(31:45):
worth you? We didn't when they're part of you there.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, I don't have very much confidence in the back.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Right, which is sad because that should be a strength
of the team. So, I mean, that's the thing here,
why you got to grind him out. Concerned about health,
concerned about the depth of starting pitching, concerned about too
many innings in a bullpen. Now you're concerned about the
back end of the bullpen instead of the full on
trust seven eighty nine. It's like, well, I'm not sure.

(32:13):
Then you look at the lineup and say, okay, low
Brafiedo's gone, so you lose a little energy, but you
gained Kakuchi. You got a left handed pitcher who's capable
with tuckers out when you're gonna get him back. I mean,
it's just there's a lot of ifs. Man, if they
if they overcome this and win this division. It's an
impressive division win considering what they faced. And I'm here

(32:36):
for it, every every freaking minute of it. And I
was here for yesterday's and like I said, when you
get punched, this team's been pretty resilient the last seven
years at swinging back and to come back yesterday was
a huge win against I think it's a good baseball team,
and Pittsburgh talk about a team that's you know, they

(32:57):
continue to build this thing for them getting young players,
but I still think the frustration is gonna mount until
they see a couple of great performances by Kakuchi before
they start to take a deep breath and ease into this.
But still got to win. You still got to win,
and they did and gained the game yesterday, which was good.
So the backtide it's a good thing.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
And then just to kind of reaffirm what you said,
about the uh not giving up a run for Ryan
Presley since June eleventh, he's given up one run, one
earned run.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
There you go, that's pushing two months. That's what seven
weeks some somewhere around there, so uh, you know a
little less. I mean, you know, on the third, it'll
there's fourth, it'll be you know, seven weeks. So I
mean he's had a he's had a much better run
as of late than he did the you know, first
one hundred games of the season or one hundred eighty games,

(33:48):
eighty five games this season, whatever it is. Wherever they're
at now.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Seven three, seven ninety is the number to join is
talk to Roger. Roger, good morning, Good morning guys.

Speaker 15 (33:59):
Yeah, yeah, I see the territs DFA finally and uh
go ahead, go ahead and close the books on Baggie
being a being in kind of a guy who needs
he needs to be in that front office and sign
talent that's that's just not his lane now needs to
find I find a better suitable uh spot for the

(34:21):
for the Astros, and that's not it.

Speaker 16 (34:23):
If I hear that he's part of that brain trust
that that going forward that's making decisions upstairs, I fell
that very disturbing, you know for a ball club.

Speaker 17 (34:34):
Also with the with the schedule moving forward, Man, we're
gonna find out, John if if we got us a
Terry Ferguson and uh pop that caacuci are, we're gonna
have those two good pictures that will help us, you know,
get to that get to that division, and and and
and go to the playoffs.

Speaker 18 (34:52):
For we don't go to the playoffs without waiting the vision.
I don't just I don't think the wild.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Card is obtainable at this point. I'm not not with
this well as present league constructed.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
But I do think the division, they got to think
when the division, no doubt, And I.

Speaker 19 (35:07):
Do think that that Tucker is the key here because
uh so, I know they like to keep it hush
mouth and lift upstairs on how the injuries go.

Speaker 15 (35:19):
But man, you're really playing with the fan bases of
intelligence when you when you're trying to tell us it's
a bone bruise and it's been so long it can't
be a bone bruise.

Speaker 20 (35:29):
It's definitely something broken, and I really think it's more
than just a bone bruiser. And I think everybody does
in the same way as well. So I really hope
that that he does play because he ain't gonna nowhere
about Tucker. We're just not it's just we're just not
deep enough.

Speaker 16 (35:43):
And you know it's do you smell that Sean had
his football in the air, brother.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Look forward to.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
And so that was like successful football hopefully. All right,
guys all like y'allfre you have a good stay safe
out there.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Appreciated Roger. It's it's football timing heston you ready, uh
uh uh, And don't worry. We're gonna get fired up
at some point today. Don't you worry.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
I know I'll tell you win this. You win the
championship today.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
It's not about Hey, that's on the schedule. You gotta
win all of them, right, No, you really don't. Actually,
well that's a loser's mentality and you're not a loser, Sean.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Would you come to thanks Tony Robbins is no, you
actually really don't have to lose. With the preci the game.
As Diddy Greed, my great coach, used to say, if
we're going to play him, might as well win him.
And yes, because to the backup tonight it's playing he's
fighting for his job. This is a huge game.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
It is.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
I know that eddiot is so for us we sit
back and say, come on, but I know because of
those situations like yeah, they're waking up this swinning, nervous
like it's a regular season game, because they need to
perform to show the coaches at what they've shown them
on the practice field, matches, in game situations. And the
next week or two, those guys that we look at
and say, yeah, we're not playing our Star Wars, what's
a big deal to that dude who's fighting, scratching and

(37:19):
you know, alignment trying to make that the third lignement
at the right guard, trying to make a team. These
games are everything to these guys. Some are gonna leave
and get cut this year. They're never gonna play again.
They're they're never gonna play again. They may not get
a chance at another team. It's a shot. They gave
it a shot. They're gonna say now I'm going back
to graduate school, or I'm gonna go work for my

(37:41):
dad or mom's company, or I'm just gonna start something.
Some are never gonna play again. This is their only
training camp they are ever gonna go to. So when
we all, I know, we joke because I've done it too,
but I also lived at thinking. Yeah, it may not
be fun for me, serious for you guys, but those
four or five throws at a quarterback makes somebody else's
watch another team to pick you up. Or you're trying

(38:02):
to be the third quarterback, you're trying to be the
last wide receiver on a loaded group. I mean, it's
it's tough sledding. But as far as the wins and losses, no,
you actually don't have to win them all in the preseason,
but if you can, great, it just makes you feel
better that your backups are solid because your starters aren't
going to get much run, not just tonight but the
entire pro You know, preseason you're not going to get

(38:24):
a ton of run anyway. So and I don't blame them.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
You got to win them all.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
I don't care if I love Hey, you know what
I love it? Play to win, right, Play to win
the game, you play sacrifice your starters. So I say,
you don't play stroud till the fourth quarter in a preseason.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Game, final two minutes?

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Why not just regamated win?

Speaker 18 (38:42):
Right?

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Why not? What are you doing? Well? We want to
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Speaker 4 (38:48):
We do.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
I like your style.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Dog, how we do it around here, big dog?

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Yeah, that's what we do.

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Speaker 1 (41:08):
How about the performance.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Your home for Houston Astros Baseball Marine Sean, How you
guys doing today?

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Wonderful? How about you?

Speaker 21 (41:17):
I'm all right, I'm excited we won yesterday.

Speaker 18 (41:23):
How about how about you?

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Guys? Did you say you're excited we won? Yeah? Of course,
and the way we won good comeback fromber pitched well
after he settled in. Yeah, and it was a much
needed win. Of course, very exciting.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yeah, Hey, Brian, Yes, Brandon Honey struck out that ten
and ten of him.

Speaker 22 (41:48):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Yeah, he pitched h He had a little struggles in
the second any, but he settled in and struck out ten,
got the win. He's now ten and five on the season.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Okay, but the guys.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Didn't you gonna have mmmm.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
I don't know, Brandon. He pitches tomorrow night, so we'll
probably talk about that tomorrow. So you're just gonna have
to tune in. All right, you guys, have a good day.
Thank you, Brandy new as well. Let's talk to Andrew. Andrew,
welcome in, good morning.

Speaker 21 (42:19):
How you guys doing.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
We're fantastic, brother. What's on your mind about these astros? Well?

Speaker 23 (42:26):
Uh, first of all, of that was.

Speaker 18 (42:27):
A big win.

Speaker 23 (42:28):
There's no such thing as an ugly win, even though
it didn't look pretty at times. Uh, sometimes you got
sometimes you gotta take what's given to you, and they
were pretty much get O'Neil. Cruise pretty much gave him
that one. But uh, yeah, the Montero thing that was,
that was I'm actually surprised they did it. They I'm

(42:49):
actually surprised they datum.

Speaker 24 (42:50):
I didn't.

Speaker 23 (42:50):
I didn't expect that to come this year, just because
of the money owed, and early on in the season
he kind of got off to a good art, but
then he kind of tails often. One thing that puzzles
me is they did not address the first base situation.
I mean, I know they probably couldn't get a deal done,

(43:13):
but now the mess is they have sain, at least
in my eyes, is that they believe Singleton is a
World Series champion first base.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Appreciate the call, Andrew, I am. Actually I know the
priority was pitching, and I'm sure trying to go get
a bat probably would cost more than pitching, is what
I would assume. With the options out there, you weren't
going to go get Josh Bell he was. I think

(43:44):
he was on waivers, he was claimed by the Diamondbacks
or the situation was weird with that. I think they
traded for him even though he was getting outright to
waivers something something along those lines. Christian Walker wasn't available
for the Diamondbacks. Yeah, obviously glad girl junior, but lord
knows how much that would have cost them. So you know,

(44:05):
the first base position, I guess now, Sean, it is
what it is, right.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, I'll ask you this, how many teams have eight
guys that are World Series caliber players?

Speaker 3 (44:14):
They don't.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
I mean that you look at and say start. I
mean every team has two or three of these positions
that you're like, may have to have two or three
guys play it. And I get what he said. I
would love to have Blad grow at first base or
petel on So that'd be great, but within the you
know what they'd have. Now, imagine what you'd have had
to give up to give Vlad.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
I don't even want to think about.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
It right To see what I'm saying, And especially you
want guys like that or pitching, you're gonna have to
You're going to have to give up some pretty i
mean relevant prospects of meaning, I mean they're all relevant,
but that are rising up your organization, Guys that people
love and don't want to part with. So I look

(44:56):
at so Singleton and you know whoever fills in over
there in his days off. I mean, look, the wee
could go. I can go to the Yankees right now
and say, well, do they have a World Series second
basement or third baseman, or is the Dodgers you know,
somebody's catcher or I know Dodgers have the catcher. But
you get my point is, has this team every World

(45:17):
Series run? Isn't there a position? I mean, do we
have a World Series center fielder? No, Jake's a good player,
but I mean going into the season, people didn't want
him to start, right it was McCormick. And now people
were ready to let McCormick go at the All Star breaks.
So I mean, do you do you have a When
I say world Series? I think you do have World
Series players there, just not World Series stars, right, I

(45:38):
mean the guys that you need on every team. Every
team's not low, I mean the team quite frankly, a
lot of times the team that's loaded at every position
may not end up puting a World Series. The Astros
have enough key components that I'm not sure you need
a superstar first space. I'd want one, but I under
the thing right now, the priority was pitching as opposed
to a superstar first baseman. If you get then Freddie

(46:02):
Freeman be great to have on your roster. Right, So
I do get it. I understand it. Or Bryce Harper,
it's awesome, But I don't think you have to have
an All Star at every position. Well nice, I don't
think that's you have to, Although you need to upgrade it,
I still think they can put it this way. I
guess if the pitching's good and they get Tucker back,
they can still win a World Series without having first

(46:23):
baseman be a nine hundred ops guy this year, They're
still capable.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Yeah, I think with what you've seen in the past,
like from this team they won big time playoff series
and got into World Series with Martin Maldonado in the lineup.
They can do with John Singleton a first base, right.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
I mean, you wouldn't have gone into the last World
Series they had and said Chas McCormick was a superstar
outfield or did to World Series guy now he'd played great,
really good baseball. My point is, on the surface, at
every position is not going to be loaded with all stars.
Those guys have to play, elevate their game and be
It's like the middle is like football. The backup linebacker, Well,

(47:05):
he's a backup. Well, he's also inevitable and he's got
to be our best special teams player. And if he
is okay, then it's like Dubon. Dubon's not going to
be at one position, but having him at a lot
of them doing his thing makes you feel like he
is a World Series utility guy because he's as good
as there is an illeague in doing it. But at
one position would he be I don't know. And maybe

(47:28):
that's why it doesn't play just one position all the
time every day, because he's too valuable otherwise so you know,
because we have had that question a million times, so
we'll see that I don't. I don't I think they
can win a world series of Singleton's, you know, better
than average or right around average, if as long as
the rest of their guys do what they do. I
still think you can. Although you'd love flat grow at

(47:49):
first base, Yeah, yeah, who would in life? That's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
All right, let's get into the seven o'clock hour and
let's we got to hear from Dana Brown talking about
the Rafael Montero DFA situation. Also, we're going to go
through some of the clips of what Dana Brown said
about that rental of Kokuchi.

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Speaker 18 (49:09):
Good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
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Speaker 24 (49:12):
Not much love listening to your show in the morning.
I appreciate y'all getting up in the morning. Just what
I started out by saying. I'm no medical professional, but
I have watched er and a handful of episodes of Mash.
But a bone bruise for Kyle Tucker actually takes longer
to heal than a fracture, and everybody keeps warnering why
he's out for so long. The bone bruise could actually
take several months compared to a fracture, which guys are

(49:34):
usually back within four to six weeks.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
And that may be the that may be on you know,
on on the on the medical shows, and you're probably right.
I've just never seen I've never seen a bone bruise
keep a football player out three months. I just never have, right,
I got you, I did a helmet tak.

Speaker 24 (49:58):
Improper information.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
No, I think you're right. I've heard the same thing.
This isn't quite I'm just saying it has. It's about
as severe bone bruise as I've ever seen on a
baseball player, right, everybody, Yeah, exactly, And I'm not questioning
anything to do with his toughness. I've seen people on
social media who have because they say bone bruise. Bone

(50:21):
bruise is painful. I've had him not to that severity,
but I've watched players take calmets to the shin and
always got a bone bruise and are playing in the
second half of the game. Now that whether it's a
shot or anything. But listen, fouling the ball is throwing
ninety five miles an hour atch off your shin can
hit it and hit everybody the same. So I don't
think we should question Kyle Tucker. But you make a

(50:41):
good point that maybe one will heal. But it's also
comes down to the pain threshold. It's just I think
we'll all agree it's a unique and weird injury that
keeps somebody out, which will be going on three months
if we get to September, it'll be three months with
a bone bruise. So that's that's a painful. Yeah, that's
exactly right, And that's it's obviously a problem because we

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know Kyle Tucker wants to play and he's been pretty
damn durable since he's been here.

Speaker 24 (51:07):
Good sir, Well, I appreciate what you guys doing. I'll
hang up and listen theirs.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Thank you, Thank you, Andrew. That's a great point by Andrew.
And I've heard that a bunch and I'm not comparing
sports are tough. I mean, I don't need to do that.
I think that's pretty well documented. I think it's pretty
obvious how we feel about you know, some guys, it's
it's just the sports are different. But it's probably the
equivalent of taking a nice helmet to the shin is

(51:32):
what Kyle Tucker did, and maybe even worse at times
when you're taking them off there a couple of times.
So I feel awful for him because he's got to
deal with this. But man, think about you're still limping
after two months in a bone bruise. Think about that.
There's guys who put it this way. There's guys who've
been in and out of a cast that are rehabbing.
Like you know, an ankle injury, you tear ligaments in

(51:53):
your ankle, it's like six weeks and you're out doing
the things and starting to I mean when it happened
to me, And I know times change over the years,
but it's amazing how the human body sometimes it works
quick and heals itself fast, and then that a bone
bruise can be so deep that we're past the two month.
We're pushing the two month mark in August. It's craziness, man,

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it just is. But I guess it's different, and I'm
sure the frustration is just as big or bigger with
Kyle Tucker than it is for us.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
It's crazy, so weird, man.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
It's threshold of pains of pain in the ass too,
because you know where it hits and you want to
you don't want to overtalk it, like yeah, man, I'm trying.
I'm trying because you shouldn't have to explain this. But
I think we're all just like, damn, tell us something worse,
because a fracture sounds so much worse than a bone bruise, right,
just sounds so much worse. But whatever the worst bone

(52:46):
bruise you can get it feels that Kyle Tucker got
it because if he's not doing any baseball, the real
baseball activity yet, it's that it doesn't seem like there's
anything we're anywhere near him being ready to play baseball.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Yeah, hopefully the Astro is getting back at some point
this season. It's just crazy that it's still going on.
But bone versus can be tricky. I guess let's let's
hear from Astro's general manager Dana Brown. He spoke yesterday
prior to the game. Obviously, the Astros had to make
a couple of moves to free up some options or

(53:21):
excuse me, free up some roster spots for the new
arms that they got Caleb Ferguson and you say Kakuchi.
So the DFA Rafael Montero. This is Dana Brown speaking
about it.

Speaker 25 (53:33):
He said he was going to talk to his wife
and he's going to talk to his agent. But he
was very open and optimistic and the conversation was great,
and he you know, he talked about how much fun
and how much family you feel like he has here,
and so we feel optimistic that he's probably gonna accept it. No,

(53:56):
this is a different situation because of you he had options,
and you know, we could think we were able to
exercise one of those options. Likentero, he had no more
options left, so it's a little different.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Now that's Dana Brown. So if Rafael Montero clears waivers,
he can be reassigned to Triple A sugar Land. That's
what Dana Brown was discussing, is they hope he accepts
that Triple A option to go down and get some
things ironed out and potentially be brought back up. He
is out of option, so DFA was the only option

(54:33):
for the organization dealing with Rafael Montero. And we've talked
about him before. Sean looks really good at times and
then looks pedestrian and others. I think the craziest thing
is when you look at when the Astros didn't have
a general manager. They signed Jose Brady to a big
time contract and they signed Rafael Montero to a big

(54:53):
time contract and both have been dfaid.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Yeah. It's uh, well, let's just say that their their
due diligence on those two didn't quite work out, right, No,
they did not, as far as production didn't match the
cash fair enough. Yeah, A kinder, gentler Sean today with
all the trade you know, anger, Yeah, it's the performance

(55:18):
didn't quite match the salary in either case. But that's okay, happens.
So but eventually you have to you have to move
on right, and if you can get him to go
down and get his game right, you may still be
able to, you know, get him to where he was
that earned that big money contract. Then it'd be great. Yeah,
but it's neither one have been a huge contributor when

(55:42):
it comes to championship caliber teams.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Nope, nope, that's why teams need gms. It's crazy to
think those. Uh, Jeff Bagwell involved in both of those
for Jose Brave and Rafael Montero, and both.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Jeff Jeff was a hell of a player, Hall of famer. Yeah,
player player, Yeah, I said, a hell of a player.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Front offs guy not so much.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Hell of a player. Okay, okay, hell of a player.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
Yeah, yeah, there you go. All right, let's get to
the steak. Yeah, really good, really good player, hell of
a player. Yeah, front offs gout not so much, not much,
hell hell of a player, that's what you can say.
Let's get to the stake out next here on the
Shawn Salisbury Show. There's a lot happening and he's got

(56:36):
a lot to say about it. Sean Salisbury continues on
seven nineteen.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
All Right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 3 (56:49):
This Salisbury's takeouts? Salsbury takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.
It's time for the steak out here on the Seawan
Salisbury Show, Sean Broyn and Tripoli Astros avoid the sweep.
They beat the Pirates last night. They're off tonight Texans

(57:11):
and Bears in the Hall of Fame game tonight. USA
men's basketball in the Olympics beating South Sudanna for the stakeout. Sean,
I want to go over to the Olympics. In that
United States men's basketball team. In Game one, Jason Tatum
did not play and a lot of people were questioning

(57:32):
Steve Kerr on why he didn't play him. Steve Kerr
had some things to say about it. Jason Tatum got
the start last night, only scored four points. Joel emb
did not play. My question is why are people so
up in arms when some of these big time players
aren't playing in the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Ran I think a lot of it comes to because
you just saw you talked about a guy who's been
the MVP every and depending on what city you're from,
and you think, well, why wouldn't Jason Tatum, who's the
reigning world champion, and you know, why is he in
the doghouse? Blah blah blah? Why is he not being

(58:19):
played or NBT? I don't know. I guess here's the problem.
When you got this kind of team, the best player
is the star of his team, or the guy who
doesn't get off the bench is the star of his team.
And so if you're in Boston, you want to know
why Jason Tatum's not getting run? And if you're in Philly,
why isn't our guy getting run? That's where comes. I mean,

(58:39):
you don't care. I may not care. It's just you're
trying to win and get things done. But I think
you know. And plus, if you're an Olympian and you're
an all star on your team and you're not getting run,
aren't you pissed or a little bit? I mean you
probably even pride and egos hurt a little bit. They
we're world champions, Man, why in the world am I
not getting run? I'm Jason Tatum. I'm not saying. And

(59:00):
this is what he's saying. But deep down, I've probably
not best buddies with the guys coaching them right now.
I mean they want to play because basically saying, well,
love the best of the best, you're not the best.
That's how that feeling would hit. But as far as
fans go, I get it, and they want to see
their guy play, and for many want to see Jason

(59:20):
Tatum or Joe l Embiid getting the lineup and for
those guys, pride and ego alone. And you're with the
best players in the world on the biggest, you know, stage,
in fighting for an Olympic gold medal, you'd like to
get a little bit of run because when you go
back home, how many minutes you get four It's like, oh, so, yeah,
I can understand why it would sting. If you're the

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alternate on the four by one hundred meter relay team,
they're telling you you're just not quite good enough. So
and you know, coaches have their guys and for whatever reason,
those two guys in the Eastern Conference getting a lot
of run right now, right so, or maybe you're saving
fresh legs for games that are going to be more competitive.
I don't know, But if it's your favorite player, of

(01:00:02):
course you're pissed. And if you think that he should
be playing over what the coach is saying that, that's
probably part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Jason Tatum seventeen minutes, four points in that win over
South Sudan.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
M M. But I mean who's getting the most minutes?
What's the most minutes?

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
I mean you got Devin Booker last night twenty two,
Kevin Durant twenty two, Lebron James twenty one, Steph Curry
twenty one, Bam Autobio twenty one, and then the rest
between seventeen and nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
So the point is, Jason Tatum's five minutes less is
all than the than the guy who's got the most
minutes Looker at twenty two. So really it's not that
big a deal. But the perception is because four points said, Oh,
he's not getting run, he's sitting on the end of
the bench. He's still got seventeen minutes. Maybe they wanted more.

(01:00:58):
I don't know, I didn't watch the game a more
crunch time or maybe when it matters, But well, I'll
tell you when to check. It is when the minutes come,
and when they come and how often they come in
games that are going to be more competitive. That's when
you'll get an idea of how much run they're going
to get when it gets down to the final four
teams in the metal round type of thing. So, but

(01:01:19):
if your favorite players not playing, I can I can
see why people get frustrated. I'm not too worried about
Jason Tatum's minutes right this second. But Steve Kurt is
going to have his favorites anyway, right, Yeah, He's gonna
have his guys that he likes anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Also kind of a hot topic here in the Olympics,
and I'd like to discuss it with you here on
the stakeout is there was an issue in boxing women's
boxing yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
You had.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
I believe it was. Let me make sure I get
these countries correct, Italy and Algerian. Algeria, Yeah, Algeria. You
had the Italian woman quit in the middle actually forty

(01:02:10):
five seconds in, excuse me, forty six seconds in because
she was fighting. The Italian opponent was or the Italian
woman was Angela Corarini. She withdrew from the opening round
about in forty six seconds because she was boxing. I'm
probably gonna butcher this name. Amani Kleff, who is transgender,

(01:02:33):
also failed the gender eligibility test at the twenty twenty
three World Championships and was not allowed to box. However,
she's being allowed to box in the Olympics, and Angela
Karini took two blows from Calef and decided to quit
right there on the Olympic stage. How my question is,

(01:02:59):
how in hell was she not? Was Kleef not allowed
to box in the World Championships because she failed the
gender eligibility test, but yet the Olympic committee let her in.
She's a transgender, she's a she's a biological man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Because the Olympic Committee is a putrid uh uh governing
body always has been. It's it's woman should not woman
should not have to box a man. I'm sorry, We
we all the I'll say it aloud, so everybody in
the back, all the women have fought for to compete
against women and to get more respect and have a

(01:03:37):
chance to do what they do against women, and then
to turn right around and have to fight against a man. Nah,
not buying in. I won't I won't watch that, and
I don't blame I don't blame you know, it's not okay,
having a man pound on a female in any time,
whether it's in boxing, they've legal that. The Olympic Committee's

(01:04:00):
allowing it. You don't allow at home, you shouldn't allow.
I mean, there's no place for it. Women should be
competing against women, and men should not be allowed to
compete against women. They've worked too hard for this opportunity,
not to only take it away and have a gold
medal or something stripped from them because a man was
really average at what he was doing in his job

(01:04:21):
but came over and now wants to dominate the woman.
That's basically what it is. Okay. I don't know about
all the psychological stuff would make somebody want to transform
from one to another. I don't know about all that,
and I'm not going to judge each individual. I'm just saying,
when it comes to rules, men shouldn't be able to
cross the threshold and utilize that to go dominate a
woman's sport. The women have worked so hard to try

(01:04:43):
and dominate or win in their own it's not okay,
it's not okay. I won't watch that. I don't blame
the lady for getting out of it and for not
finishing it's not okay, it's just not And the Olympic Committee.
You ask, well, how can the Olympic Committee can how
can they do it? You want to go back over
the court or the time in the Olympic Committee and
mistakes they've made. This is just another one in the

(01:05:03):
long line of Olympic Committee gaffs that they've made. These
women deserve to fight a fair fight and at no
time they shouldn't be. Men shouldn't be playing in women's
sports period. Biological men should not be playing in women's sports.
I don't care what the transformation says, and I'm not
questioning that they're what their psyche is and how why

(01:05:24):
they did it. The fact is, the hard and fast
rules is if you're a male, if you want to transform,
that's that's your gig. That that's fine. If you decide
you want to go from a male to a female,
then you're still gonna then you're still going to compete
against the males. I probably if you want to do
that and your biological male, and you want to compete
against Usain Bolton one hundred meters dash, have at it

(01:05:45):
if he was running. You get my point? You want
to play basketball against Lebron James, and you're a female now,
but you're a biological male, Go have at it, no problem.
But you don't get to do this against the males
and go in there and punch a female in the
face twice and have stopped the fight because well it's male. Okay,
go do that against the men and come see me.

(01:06:06):
You can transform all you want, that's your life. I'm
not telling somebody with the psychological part or why they
do it. But there are the part where it crosses
the line where men get to go beat on women. No, no,
no no. If you want to be a if you
want to transform, have at it. But you're still competing
against how you were born. You're a biological male. You
should be fighting against the male. And there is no

(01:06:27):
other answer, period, there is no other answer. I'm not
telling them what they should do when it comes to
their gender. You know, whatever whatever they do, I know
what I do. Whatever they do. Then when they change,
whatever goes through their mind and they want to be
a different sex. Okay, let's say that. You still don't
get the You don't get to compete in women's sports,

(01:06:49):
nor should you. It's just that simple compete against the men,
your biological mail. That's just the way it is.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
I think it's absolute bs that this woman, the Italian
Angela Karini, had to quit forty seconds forty six seconds
into an Olympic boxing match because she's finding.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
A yeah, yeah, that she's worked her ass on represent
her country, right, that's exactly, and fight women. And then
she has to go, hey, how'd you do it?

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
I got beat by a man, Like I said, it's
not my choice to judge why people do something to transform,
make the transformation. That's on them. But I do. I
can set rules that don't allow you, as a male
to go play volleyball against the females as a male,
to box the females as a male, to go to

(01:07:35):
go beat them in golf for whatever. Go go play,
go play against the ones that you're supposed to play against.
And beaten on a woman in a boxing ring as
a biological male, ain't it? And I will, and I
will not acknowledge the fact that that person wins the
gold medal. They're the true gold medal winner. You're a male,
you beat females, not that women aren't capable. They're capable

(01:07:56):
of beating you too. But it's just not the way
it was set up to be. It's then, that's not controversial,
that's just fair to the women. Women deserve better than
have to fight men for a gold medal. Okay, simple ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Let's get to break and let's get some thoughts on
the you say Kakuchi rental from Dana Brown. He spoke
to Sean yesterday about it. Didn't have time to discuss.
Let's talk about it next. The Sean Salisbury Show continued,
joins us every Wednesday at nine thirty, as he did

(01:08:33):
yesterday speaking about the trade deadline. If you missed that,
it'll be it is up on our blog at Sports
seven ninety dot com, so you can check that out
for the full interview. There was some things that he
said that I like to get into. Sean he uh.
He talked about winning the division and what it takes
to win the division with a proper rotation, and this

(01:08:56):
is what Dana Brown had to say.

Speaker 18 (01:08:57):
See ultimate the final goal. The final goal is to
win the World Series, no doubt about it. And so
we try to do things to get to our final
goal and winning the World Series. But you have to
take it step by step. You have to win the division,
and in winning the division, you have to have the
proper rotation to get there. And you know, ultimately these

(01:09:20):
are very important steps that we take to get back
to the postseason, to get back to the World Series.
And parting ways with players, it's very difficult. I would
say that over and over again. There are going to
be more joy low ca fedos all throughout our industry

(01:09:40):
that you have to part ways with in order for
your organization to get better and to win. And it's
a very very difficult decision. I totally understand where the
fan base is on this one. I feel the absolute
same way. I also have to put the organization first
and say, what do we have to do. We have

(01:10:02):
to do the best thing to get back to the
postseason and to win a World Series.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
And then, excuse me. One of the things that he
said multiple times is winning comes at a cost, and
that's giving up players like Joey Loperfito, Jake Bloss and
Will Wagner. I just you know, some of my takeaways
from the interview yesterday Sean is that he knows how
the fans feel, yet he felt like he did what
was necessary to make the organization and make this big

(01:10:29):
league roster better.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
He felt like this team. I said, are you better
today than you were before the trade? And he said, yes,
we are, which tells us the talk we had before
he came on yesterday. Does Kukuchi make more of an
impact than his He give you a better chance to
win than the third the three guys two which have
been on the roster, one which hasn't a major league roster, Wagner,

(01:10:55):
and the other two in bloss It was scheduled to
start the night that they was moved, and uh low
perfeddo that Kakuchi is a more important piece. That's what
that is. While he understands there's going to be more
Joey low perfidos across baseball, and it happens guys go
low Perfeedo's where you're going to discover a guy's a
really good player, and you're going to have to let

(01:11:16):
guys go like the Joey lob berfitos here and elsewhere.
But he also, you know, he made the point, if
they're a better team, that's telling you that they don't
believe their future is overly affected. Well, it's a bummer
that their future is going to go into the tank
because those three guys are now in Toronto. I that's

(01:11:37):
and that they're they're in it to win a World Series.
When I asked them, are you a World Series champion team?
Are you? Can you do? Then his answer was yes,
we they believe they are. So that arm did mean
this much to them to the fan. They may they
hate it the emotion of low perffido. I get it,

(01:11:59):
the few deplete and more minor league players, but I
don't know man. Like I said, if they win a
World Series this year, if you told me they win
a World Series this year but the next two years
they're going to miss the playoffs, would you take it? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Give me that ring all day.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Agreed. So listen, you Rob Peter. You got to pay
Paul in some way. You just have to. And had
you got Jack Flaherty or possibly we're able to pull
off a schooble who didn't move, but pull him off,
it would have cost you more and then up in
arms to lose two or three more pieces to it.
So I'm not just hey, listen, the justification is going

(01:12:36):
to come in the performance. He owned up to it
and said he collaborates with people that are that are
you know that are on his staff, but he makes
the final choice, and his final choice was that they're
a better team with Kakuchi and to look deeper through
the numbers than just e Er and he had mentioned
that yesterday. So the truth is going to be, I mean,

(01:12:58):
not the truth, but the final answer and grade is
going to be how this turns out on the surface.
You may want to give it a C minus or
whatever it is. Each person is going to give a grade.
In the fans of motion, they deserve the opportunity to
have this feeling of man, what's going on? And you're
not going to get all the answers you want to
hear from any GM, not just Dannon Brown, in any sport,

(01:13:19):
and protecting the player before they're protecting you the fan.
That's just the human nature of the sport in front
office people. But you know, to tell us that he
thinks it's a better trade and that they're a World
Series team and things have to be done and you
have to do this and you have to give up
good players. What's not transparent about that? What did he
sugarcoat yesterday? He may not have liked some of the

(01:13:40):
I mean, there's some of the questions that he may
have like, well, I don't know when I when I said,
did you give up too much to get Joey Loberfito,
Maybe deep down they feel like they did, but that
they had to. You're going to overpay. You don't get
good players by giving them bad players. And that's a
fact that bad player average player may turn out to
be a good player down the road. But in order

(01:14:04):
and right now, Kokuchi's pitched like an average pitcher at times,
and he's having a tough run as of late. Maybe
his fortune shift in Houston, Bran. So I don't I
don't have a problem when when somebody doesn't tell us
everything we exactly want to know. He answered every question,
and I think you came out of you if you

(01:14:24):
didn't come out of that interview with okay, I at
least have a better perspective of why they did it.
Whether you like it or not, it's up to you.
But he was pretty transparent about why he did it,
because it's hard to run and hide when you're asked,
when you don't get openated questions when you have to
ask him, answer him right, and he does a pretty good,
the damn good job of at least addressing them, even

(01:14:45):
if it's not the answer you want.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Yeah, he's always been transparent with us. I mean there's
no question about that one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Yep, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
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Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Let the celebration start more.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety He's worth five years,
one hundred and forty mili damn is you got that
contract extension this morning? He is now the highest paid
offensive lineman in NFL history.

Speaker 24 (01:16:57):
That's tough.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Yeah. Three time Pro bowler for the Buccaneers.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Really good football player. The money tells you that they
like him in Tampa. Okay, he ain't bad, right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
A lot of scratch man.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
That's a lot of coin, a lot of a lot
of greenbacks, a lot of sea notes, a lot of bread,
a lot of bread, a lot of moolah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Yeah, a lot of cheddar, a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Cheese, a lot of chad, a lot of cheddar. There's
a lot of cold heart, straight cash, homie. Okay, here's
worth a lot of money. You feel me, I feel
your dog. It's a lot of bacon, it is all. Yeah,
you already bitched scratch right. That's a lot of iron,
a lot of Beni's the Dennis Eckersley. Oh I'll give
me some iron man, Yeah it really is. Oh yeah,

(01:17:44):
go go Bingei or go home. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Hey,
can I make a point?

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
We had a you can sean go ahead one of
one of.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Our guys who's I was just looking through Twitter with
your quoting data Brown and the guy's riding your ass
right from yesterday. Vamos Just every time you put a
quota from Danny. He was mad at Dana oh.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
V almost kougs. Yeah, I saw that this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Yeah, I love his passion. Easy a little wived. I
just saw it just now. And I think there's a
misunderstanding about when we say we don't care about the farm,
that's not true. What what we mean is like, do
I care about the Astras in twenty seventy six? Hellh yeah,
I care about the more, but the big club bore that.
I do so many Corpus Christy because you want the
big club to win, but you get your feeder from

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your minor league people. That's how you build organizations and
get it. I think the point that maybe gets lost
in the translation is would I sacrifice a World Series
to keep a prospect that may turn out to be good?
That answer is no, There's no guarantee either way, no
guarantee the prospect's going to be good, and no guarantee

(01:18:48):
you're winning a World Series. But I'm always going for
the one in the hand, a chance to win the
World Series with this window now that I am, and
I'm really not worried about twenty twenty eight. Not caring,
not worried or two things don't care means you don't
give a rats ask. Not worried means you feel trust
enough that there's going to be more good players that
come along. Even and depleted, you've got to rebuild it,

(01:19:11):
no doubt. But in order if you got to deplete
your farm system a little bit to win a World Series,
are you doing it? Brian? Yes, the answer is yes, absolutely,
even if it means you've got to take a step
back for one of those or years or so in
the minors, and then your scouting department comes in. You
got to find some hidden gyms in the rest of it.
So the difference in not caring and not worrying or

(01:19:33):
two different things. I'm not worried about twenty twenty eight
because we're four years away from that. A lot of
things can happen where you trade one of your guys
and go get three more prospects from somebody else that
starts to help the depleted farm system. How you go
about it each year. But when I say I'm not
worried about twenty twenty six right now, that doesn't mean

(01:19:54):
I'm willing to give away. Not worried about twenty twenty
six doesn't mean oh, trade seventeen guys to go get schoobled.
That's that's not what I said, or we said, or
anybody said said, or Danda Brown said. It's the fact
that if you win in World Series, why do you
think guys who hate ni L and the collective still coaches? Why, Brian,

(01:20:16):
I can't stand name image and I stand can't stand
the collective when they say that. But then they're still
paying their players. You know they're they're they're providing them
money in the collective. Why because it just means a
better contract for them to keep their job right better players.
You win, you may hate it, but you you still
you still use it. Same thing here. You may hate
giving up farm system guys at deplete a farm system,

(01:20:39):
But if you can win a championship and keep your
gig going and keep building it, you'll you'll, you'll you'll
address twenty twenty eight? When when when when you start
to address it. But if winning a World Series means
I have to let a minor league guy go that,
maybe at that may be a star down the road.
I'm not saying I like the trade. I still think
right on the surface, right now, they gave up too much.

(01:21:00):
We're going to find out if we're wrong or right.
That's okay. Doesn't mean I don't root for Kakuchi, but
I do know this that I'll take the World Series
if it means you had to give up a guy
that deplete your roster in twenty twenty seven. So caring
and worrying are two different things. I care a lot.
I worry very little because I've seen this in football,

(01:21:20):
how things just work out. Then you trade a veteran,
you get a draft pick back. It just kind of
works your way through it. If you got talented people
in the front office doing these things, and if the
players play well. So I care a lot, But I
care about a ring more than I do about twenty
twenty eight. I'd like a ring now. I'll deal with
the twenty twenty eight ring in twenty twenty seven or
the year before, as we build towards. You get my point.

(01:21:42):
I think you're on the same page, man.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, I definitely am.
I you brought up the tweets that we got. Let's
see what time were these even hat and.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
I love passions from all of them, even when they
disagree with this.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Brian at almost one am right, And.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
I'm not trying to tell you that the trade was good, right.
I'm hoping it is. But you know, Dana, that's Dana's
job to bring players here and to get them ready
to go, and we'll see. But it just makes me laugh.
Of course we care.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Man, he almost Koug's wash, throwing a lot of exclamation
marks in these.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
Mad that he's mad. He's mad that peedro Leone had
I don't blame him because peeder Leone been doing this
for a while and we keep saying he finally got
run and you know, now does he got to be
a hero. But we're going to see it, and I
think it's overdue that I could agree more. I don't mind.
The passion is just I think these missed. Some of
those comments were misled. When he said, I'm listening to

(01:22:38):
you guys, and you you you're you have to take
the side of the answers, that's not true. We are
as critical, as a matter of fact, far more than
somebody who fairly, we don't make it personal. Fairly, you
interview a guy, you ask them straight questions, he give
you the answers. There's nothing we can do. I said,
we said, we didn't like the trade when it hit,
but I am willing to give it a chance. Do

(01:22:58):
you have a choice, So it's uh, I think there
when you're listening, I think they're selective hearing at times.
That's all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why I get to
the point where you don't even say, Okay, I'm not
even gonna That's why I don't answer this stuff on
social I used to answer everything on social media trying
to be a nice guy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Good, it doesn't matter. I'm not mad at people who
disagree with me. I could care less because it's it's
passionate opinion and I've been in the business long enough
not to care about you know, not to worry about
that stuff. You get involved, and I like the people
that are different, think different if they do. But the
selective hearing over you said no, no, we actually didn't
say we don't care about it. We said we're not
worried about it. I don't care, meanie, I don't care

(01:23:36):
about it today. If I can win a World Series,
I'll deal with it tomorrow. I'm not borrowing trouble, is
my point. So, and this team's developed pretty good players
that haven't been first round pick. So this organization, so
we'll see. But yeah, selective hearing. That's why I love it.
It makes me smile now when it used to like
baffle me, Now I just smile at it. So what
are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
Are you ready to talk Texans?

Speaker 8 (01:23:57):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Take, I'm gonna take the segment off.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Okay, me and Trie believe we'll talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
All right, I'll talk to you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
But yeah, we'll see. It's football timing here, yeah yeah,
Hall of Fame game tonight. Let's talk about it next.
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seven o'clock tonight. You pomped you ready for it? Yeah,
I don't think he's ready for it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
How would you like my answer? Yeah, fantastic, Yeah, it's footballs.
I'm just being a wise ass. Yeah I am.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
I'm we did We didn't hear a word. You said.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
You didn't know because I didn't say it. No, I
didn't say a word. I thought gotch I did say.
I was sitting there waiting, like, are you pumped for it?
I'm like, okay, let me get some pregnant pause here.
So he closed it up. I'm pumped for the start
of football, yeah, and I'm pumped to see how how
it fits in. I'm not worried about the result for

(01:25:48):
the game tonight and all that stuff and preseason for me,
like I told you, it matters to the player, it doesn't.
I'm not worried about scheme and all that because you're
not going to see much of what they do. It's
gonna be base stuff and you'll mix in a few
things that they want to test out, and you're not
going to see much of the mixings. And the Strouds,
not just tonight throughout They're going to get a little
bit of work in, but the most of the stuff

(01:26:10):
they're doing is on the practice field to get them ready.
I don't want injuries. I've changed, I've shifted how I
felt over the years about playing your stars in preseason
too much. It doesn't say we're not counting those Once
I know that the guy has a grasp of what
they're trying to do. I'm not worried about. It's the
guys that you know, the grasp of your rookie. You're
a guy trying to make a team, You've switched teams,

(01:26:31):
how do you grasp into you know, the energy fit
in those Those are things I'm looking for. I'm diving
deeper into that part of it. But I'm not worried
about the x's and o's of ooh, look at this
play design. You're not going to get all that stuff
because you don't want to put all that You may
practice it on the practice field. You're putting a library
in is what you're doing and deciding which books you
want to choose once you head to the fall. So

(01:26:53):
I'm excited to see some of the prospects, But just
when I get excited, they don't play it. You know
they'll play some, but you don't get a lot of
And if you're going to make the team. You know,
they kind of know it. There's probably two or three
roster spots max open. They're questioning, you know, they'll say
every job's open, every job's not open. Okay. So, and
I like the guys, you know, the storylines and the

(01:27:14):
rest of it, you know, like the guys like John Metchi.
I want to see where the next level of his
game now that we've there were another year, looking forward
to his first round talent those things. Yes, I'm not
worried about Bobby Slowk's play calling and all it. So
I'm excited for football. I'm excited for the new year.
I'm not overly into the x's and o's part of

(01:27:35):
it because there's not a lot of you're not game
planning against somebody else. It's not a chess match right now.
It's playing little checkers and figuring out who fits. But yeah,
I'm looking for the hidden gem. I guess what I'm saying,
which guy gives me the oh damn, we got that
from him? This is really cool. And maybe it's Pierce

(01:27:55):
who elevates this in this system now in the second year.
Those are the things I'm looking for. So yeah, I'm
excited for football, but I don't get too excited for
preseason because I'm still looking forward to September, and it
feels like it takes forever once football starts to get
to September because you're so excited. It's like Christmas. You know,
you're the night before is not eight hours, It's like

(01:28:15):
eighteen hours when you're a kid. So it's the same
thing for football, which were all kids when it comes
to our love for it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
You want to put a couple of bets down on
the game tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
So there will be there will be enthusiasts that bet
this game.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
Okay, are one and a half point favorites right now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Yeah, that's just one of those where you're like, I
gotta go bet this game. Oh so hard start betting football?

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
Yeah, you go bet it over Under said at thirty
and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
Thirty and a half with the backups? Oh my god,
who's going to start a quarterback for them?

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Big play? Davis Mills which talking about dogs?

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
No, I said them not, they're not our squad?

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
No, how what's his name? Let me go to it
real quick. They were talking about him on the early
morning show Two Pros and a Cup of Joe talking
about him being big and jacked. Let me find it
Tyler something Tyson, Uh bagent bagent Tyson.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Know so you know it's it's you're talking about their backup.
Who's there last year? He's a good runner, good yeah,
badgin badge.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
Excuse me, I was giving him a French bagante.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Go ahead, man, we got a little flavor to it.
It makes a sound of yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
Apparently he's gonna get that. Yeah, he's gonna get the story.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Yeah. No, he's a good he's a good player. It'd
be fun to watch him. I do like that in
Mills and and hopefully they'll throw, you know, getting these
guys some work in. I'm anxious to see that. I
would take the over in the game. I would. I
think there's a lot of mistakes you may get, like
a defensive touchdown. Maybe I would probably take over thirty
and a half points. What is it thirty and a half?

(01:29:54):
Thirty and a half as right now, that's that's a
seventeen fourteen You get, seventeen fourteen, you win. That's all
you're asking for. Two touchdowns in a field goal from
one of the teams, meaning seventeen from one to two.
So getting that thirty one points seventeen to fourteen.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
If math, Yeah, that's good math.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
Yeah, So I would take the over, but I wouldn't
bet this game. But there are there are some betting
the linkquts who will bet the first time game because
they want to bet it so bad. But I get it,
I get it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
I would assume Damian Pierce is going to get a
lot of run tonight, Davis Mills starting at quarterback. I
doubt we see case Keem Tim Boyle probably going to
get some action. I mean, then why we really what
do you what do you need to see from Case
Camm Nothing? Hey, can you still hand the football off?

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
He's been in the league long enough. I can trust
him that he's going to be fine if he if
he plays, I'm not worried about his preseason game.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
And then receivers like Xavier Hutchison, John Metchi, Stephen Simms.
Then you also have Ben Skorenneck.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Yeah, g off season for the Rams. Yeah, those are
the things you want to see, you know, you're just
trying to see how the guy fits in. And remember
the receiver job. That receiver room's pretty loaded, So who's
going to elevate and take it to another level. And
I think it'd be great if it's time for us
to see John Metchi. Now if through all this and
all the tough times he's been through with injury and

(01:31:16):
his health is to you know, this was a first
round talent when he was drafted, what in the second round,
So first round skill set. So hopefully after all this
he settles in because he could be a phenomenal addition
if he's at full strength, meaning he's one hundred percent
comfortable and ready to roll. I'm really key because you
knew how much I loved him coming out. Yeah, and

(01:31:38):
I'm hoping that this is his breakout here.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Yeah coming out of college, yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
When he came when he when he came out of Alabama.

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
Yeah, it came out of Alabama, right, Alabama?

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Yeah, out of Schoolabama. Not when he came out right, Yeah,
out of school.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
Okay, so make sure. Yeah, another guy. I'm looking forward
to Watchington and hopefully he gets quite a bit of
playing time. The rookie tight end they got Kate Stover.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
Yeah, that's gonna be a fun one. I'm anxious to
see move people around and what he'll be in the
passing game. He might get a pretty healthy run this
preseason and that'll be and I'm here for it. So yeah,
he was. We know they wanted another one to be
able to line up and be multiple formations, to have
to be able to have two of those guys on
the field at one time, and a lot of you know,

(01:32:27):
I don't know how much they'll do in the preseason,
but you can expect a ton of personnel groupings and
different you know, per twenty personnel to twenty one and twelve,
and you know you're gonna get a lot of that
this year with them because the bandwidth extends with mixing
and another tight end and the wide receiver group and
being able to go empty with Joe Mixon, a lot

(01:32:48):
of different It's kind of Bobby Slow. It's going to
have some fun because this is how you like to
design it. You're like, you're not real limited. You got
to back, You've got receivers, you've got a quarterback, You've
got an offensive line that hopefully will be healthy and
another year better. You've got versatile tight ends. I mean,
this is how play caller loves it, because you're going
in with bandwidth. You're like, okay, now I can throw

(01:33:11):
I can run fifteen different plays and give you nine
different personnel groupings and fourteen different formations with those groupings
in the first fifteen plays of a game, just to
see how you adjust. So yeah, bandwidth created by personnel
moves this offseason, That's what I'm excited to see as
we move through the preseason.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
And I know our guy Andy gonna be a little upset.
Charlie Hack questionable with planner fasci itis in his foot,
expected to be out for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
Chasvo Man chaswo heck Chucky, heck chas Listen, I used
to unfairly look look at guys as a planner fascii itis? Come,
how long does that? What is it? And tell you've
had it? Dude, I've gotta tell you, and tell you've

(01:34:04):
had it. Picture yourself walking down and barefooted and stepping
on a stone that but that does that heel bruise,
you know, like when you step on a rock. Now
there's a heel bruise back there that lasts and it's
the most painful heel bruise you've ever had to Now
extend that for like two months. A highly underrated injury

(01:34:25):
when it comes to pain, and I've been there, and
eighty is frigging brutal. And I didn't respect plant fasci
itis enough until planter hit me and fasci itis did too.
I mean it was a two on one dude, Planter
and fascia itis a two on one round.

Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
I don't know why what was worst planner or fasci itis,
But when it hits, I am telling you. So when
you hear it, don't don't just like, oh, well, it's
just some fancy dab Look got a weak ass injury?
Is that? Trust me?

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
It can be frigging brutal. And I went through it
this past year and it's like and other than rest
and putting ice underneath like a bottle of water, ice
roller underneath it, and doing it staying off it. It's
one of those it's like ten and nightis in your shoulder.
But the pain, I'm just telling you because you have
to walk and it's brutal. So if it's a severe

(01:35:17):
case of planet fashi ass, don't get too mad at
Chuck Hack and say, oh, come on, fancy name for
my by the bottom of my foot and all hell.
No planet fasci itis is a bitch, and then you
married planet fasci itis. You know what I'm saying. Tough, Brian, tough.
You don't you think it's you think it's soft, don't

(01:35:38):
you know?

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
No, I've heard plant fasciadis is a bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
Man freaking it is. It's it's a it's a brutal
it is. Man. So get healthy. But Andy won't like
missing Chucky. Heck, and he loves some Chasmo ass.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
Yeah, he sure does, all right. The guys on get
up talking about uh CJ. Stroud Adam Schefter with some
high praise for c. J. Stroud As the Hall of
Fame game kicks off tonight, let's hear that audio and
discussing next and Sports Talk seven to eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Putting the logic illogical, former pro Sean Salisbury continues to
break it down one seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
Yeah, politic California right into it. I mean from a
beautiful state that that guy don't give me started. I
don't even want to go there because that guy boy,
I ain't talking. I ain't talking Marshawan. Though Marshan Marshawn
would be a better governor. We'll just leave it at that.
Oh yeah, no, Mark pass on that one. I want

(01:36:40):
to hear Marshawan.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Yeah, exactly, he's entertaining us.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
Hell, I want to you know, Gavin Newsom's got some
fixing to do in California, Okay, for a lot of reasons.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
Boy, yeah, that's that's That's one thing I do not
want to listen to.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
Maybe Marshaw will put a ball in his hands and
run him.

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
Over, would be great.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
I can I can tell you, uh, I can tell
you one thing that I do want to listen to.
That's it? You ready showing?

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
Come on? Yes?

Speaker 26 (01:37:20):
Yeah, he ain't not up and enough? Is that the
song out a rough enough? Ain't not up enough?

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
Come on this brigod?

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
Yes, yes, I've been waiting a week, baby God, listen
to Clay Walker, I mean Colors.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
This is legendary. Turn me up to blee.

Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
Yeah yeah, let it go.

Speaker 18 (01:37:53):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
I've never joined in on this, but I'm going to
you ready for it?

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
Let's go, let's go?

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
Ready, come on, baby standing up? Yeah it's but bo
yeah yeah, oh huh pingo bam.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
Give me some automount of pea boom? Oh what and
boot to day now turn it up right here? Shipley, Yes,
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Yay Deexas Blooster, Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:38:36):
Oh yeah, righting boar, you can slam that door or whatever.
He says.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Brother, that's what a banger. That may be horny.

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
Yeah, that didn't get you bricked up on a Thursday morning.
With the Hall of Fame game looming, then you need
to go to men's t clinic and get your stuff
figured out, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
I'm still laughing, not only at that, but when you
said you have a doo some of these DUTs. I
was on with jb our Guy coach JB. And I
was on his show Tuesday, and I went on with
his partner, Smitty, and they were sitting there and they're
interviewing me and stuff, and the all of a sudden,

(01:39:16):
I Smitty because he didn't know, and they're they're talking
to me, and we were talking about the hit. JB
asked me about the Texans and I said, man, and
so I let into it. I said, man, getting mixing bandwidth?
Slow it another year for CJ. You know really, I
mean hardcore football talk, right, And so Smitty's getting you know,
he's getting into these JV's partner and he says, uh.

(01:39:37):
I said, but I'll tell you what the talk in
Houston is. Uh, they've been looking for depth. They went
and got mixing, which is going to be a huge kid.
I mean, I'm setting this up, dude, and I'm talking
about how great. And you know, Smitty's on the edge
of his seat and I'm watching him because we're doing
it on like the was It Night. There's a Yardbird
or whatever that is on the on one of those sites, right,

(01:39:58):
it's an audio video podcast. And so they're both sitting
there and I said, yeah, but that this talk of Campsman,
this guy from Slippery Rock backup running back they didn't
get drafts named Bobby D's.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
Did you get.

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
Dude? You get him? I said, Bobby D's. I said,
I'm telling you, man, they're raving about him because Joe's
not getting a lot of work in the preseason. But
with all this bandwidth and this receiving group they added
a back and Pierced, they're still trying to figure it out.
But this kid's doing it all. And I said, and
I looked at Smitty. I said, Smitty, I you I
didn't know anything about this guy coming out of school

(01:40:34):
from Slippery Rock. And I said, Smitty did you did
you do you know anything about him? Dude? I know,
you know football, he goes now he goes Sean. I didn't.
I don't know anything about him. He said, So Bobby
he is, he's playing you know? He said something like.
I said, yeah, he's tearing camp up to the point
where people are like raving about him here that I
ain't talking about anybody else. And he said, I said,
do you know who Bobby D's is? He goes, No,

(01:40:55):
I don't. I said, Bobby D's not for JB fell
out of it, fell out of his chair crying, and
so did and so you could hear them both talking,
and neither one of them were in the picture screen
because I mean, I set it up to the point, dude,
it was serious, like I'm getting ready to tell you
this this this Every year there's an undrafted free and Bobby,

(01:41:18):
I said, this undrafted running back out of Slippery Rock
is tearing it up. And I said, in schmidty, you
know his name is Bobby D's. You ever heard of him?
He goes, no, man, he goes with Bobby D's. I said, yeah,
Bobby's nuts, your boy, and JB threw his way threw
it up, fell out of the ground. He goes got
his ass, but he said, and I think we're still

(01:41:40):
falling for that after all these years. We're also stupid.
It also seventh grade ish and I love every single
but I crushed her and he's like, oh, you've got
my ass, said you damn right. I did just use it.
I mean Bobby D's running back. Yeah, Bobby D's, Bobby's

(01:42:00):
that's Football Time in Houston. Just got I mean, I'm
good for the day, though I know you are.

Speaker 3 (01:42:04):
This is what the song does, you know?

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
I mean when you think bangers, you think you think
Clay you think Football Time in Houston. Yes, And when
you really think bangers, yeah, you think Football Time in
Houston exactly. You know, when when Football Time in Houston
with C Dub kicks in, throw out all the records.
Throw them out, Yeah, get rid of them. Yeah, give

(01:42:28):
every single just throw out all the records. Dude, When
the Bears and the Texans get together for a preseason
game that starters aren't going to play in and you
play Clay Walker C Dub with Football Time in Houston,
throw out, just throw out all the records.

Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
As you should.

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
Yeah, I mean there's no place else you can even tread.
Just throw them out, dude, So.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
Is it is it time to uh? Is it time
to retire that song? Or we're gonna roll with it
all season long?

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
I would like a new one. I would I would
love a new one. I think, you know, uniforms, quarterback,
things change, man and will Sea Dubbs had a good
run and he'll continue to have a good run. We
might want to shelve football time in Houston, do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:43:15):
I don't know, man, what do we replace it with?

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
Let's come up with our own cut. Let's that's let's
let's good. Let's uh head into the studio. Maybe bun
Bee can produce it for us.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
I think bun Be or no, it's it's some thug
he's got the yeah Houston Texan Home of the Texans
or something like that. We got to come up with
a new one, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
Yeah. Maybe maybe we can do a collab with it
with bun Bee. Maybe we'll collab with them.

Speaker 3 (01:43:41):
Be maybe maybe uh as well.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
That'd be awesome. That'd be now, that would be a banger.
I mean, I like it when we get to collab.
You know what I'm saying. Dog collab. Yeah, you gotta
get a collab going. So football time, we need a
new textans theme song. We can collab a lot of
good musicians. Houston got a fine one. I guess, man,
I don't know. It's gonna be hard to retire. You

(01:44:06):
have a hard times retiring se Dub, aren't you. Yeah?
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
Besides, you know, he's had a good run. He's had
a you know, a good run outside unless you're his
personal driver, you know, is bus driver, which we've heard
that audio. He's a it wasn't very nice to Clay Walker,
but you know, he he's had a pretty good run,
especially here in Houston sports. He sings the national anthem
at every single game.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
Oh yeah, he's had a good run, sug.

Speaker 4 (01:44:28):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
I mean, so you're having your a little reluctant to say,
well it's time to let time just put s Dub
on the back burner.

Speaker 3 (01:44:37):
I guess, I don't know. We'll we'll, uh, we'll let
that marinate and see if we can figure something out.
You know, the the game doesn't start till seven and tonight,
and then of course, you know, got some preseason games,
so we got a couple of weeks until the actual
season starts. Maybe we'll get something by then.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
Maybe, yeah, maybe we could be talked into it. You
feel me, dog, I feel you.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
I'm picking up what you're putting down, big homie.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
Maybe we can't.

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:46:42):
Live. But the Shawn Salisbury Show continued, you doubtless, well
you you you you what you disposed to Quavo? Yeah,
man jse Quavo or yeah, oh gotcha. Yeah, but that's
good collab though, Paul Wall, Slim Thug, Chamellionaire riding dirty.

(01:47:07):
You know what I'm saying, that's a good that's a
good trifactor right there. You like that cut more than
Paul and then Sea Dubs?

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
You don't like Slim Thug Paul Chamellionaire. Is that you're
saying down on the Houston legend?

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
No, I said, that's a good trifecta. So so you
you like Sea Dub more than that than those three
who oh Dub? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
Uh no, uh huh no, absolutely not. I grew up
on Slim Thug, Paul W. Chamelionaire. Clay Walker was always there.
But when it comes to texting song, I'm leaning towards Uh,
I'm leaning towards clay Walker.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
It's just the guitar riff just gets it going, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
Got the riff? Yeah, so you you are? You riding dirty?

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
I cannot confirm norder than I.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
I can't do that man dirty.

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
Yeah, there you go, a little Chamellionaire right there for
your ass talking about Sean. That's good culture right there.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
Damn right, Damn man, I've been driving down there with
one hand on the steering wheel, singing Chameleionaire many a day,
Oh you have, oh yeah, and riding dirty man, whatever
that is? See you know, I know what it is,
but I don't ride dirty. But it's a good cut. Yeah,
you get. You don't want to get. You don't want
the popo to catch you riding dirty? You know what

(01:48:23):
I'm saying? No, you better phrase of the city. Yeah,
catch me riding dirty.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
I guess you don't want him to catch you riding
bear bag either, you know?

Speaker 1 (01:48:33):
M debatable?

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
Seven seven two one two five seven. Let's talk to
our guy John. What's happening to John?

Speaker 4 (01:48:44):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
Man?

Speaker 18 (01:48:44):
Bare bag?

Speaker 4 (01:48:46):
Really?

Speaker 18 (01:48:48):
God?

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
Are John? Are you gonna call him a negativity?

Speaker 8 (01:48:52):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:48:52):
Are you gonna You're gonna be pumped up like me
and Sean?

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
John don't want John? Johnny, Hey, let's keep it.

Speaker 27 (01:48:59):
Chrisp Keys Lees, get rid of that damn redneck song.

Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
That's that's a lot coming from you, John.

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
Jo Hey, look bro, look at him.

Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
Yeah, Yeah, it's got to go by it?

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
Why hey?

Speaker 28 (01:49:16):
Why?

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
Because just like the astronom, it's old as hell, it
needs to go it's classic. But it's a classic though.

Speaker 25 (01:49:24):
It's not.

Speaker 27 (01:49:25):
No, no, no, no, a damn thing about classic about
that thing.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
It foot bolt hamming. You see, it gets the people going,
John John, No, no, you're calling in about it, aren't you, though, Sean.

Speaker 27 (01:49:44):
Look baseball players, y'all. Brian, you may like that crap
in the baseball but Sean, we over here on the
football side, you got to have some bump. You get
your bonbe Paul Wall scar face, I don't care, just
keep go.

Speaker 18 (01:50:00):
Oh my god, please.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
Get me in there. Don't leave me out of that group.
No harmonize with the group real.

Speaker 4 (01:50:08):
Quick, real quick, real quick.

Speaker 29 (01:50:11):
What do y'all think? I know it's very very early
in his contract, but I'm gonna tell you what if
CJ does do. If CJ does like he should do,
and hopefully he does, CJ's gonna set the market Jack,
CJ gonna take. He gonna break the bank Jack when
his contract comes in, because.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
That's years that's two years from now. I know that's
two years from now. And if he does, if he
plays great football for two more years, oh you're looking
at that time, you're looking at that time, pushing seventy
million a year. Oh yeah, sixty.

Speaker 27 (01:50:50):
Cats to and and love and all them, and with
what this young man's the bar is the limit with
him and.

Speaker 18 (01:50:59):
Around you know, we've all been talking about it around us.

Speaker 24 (01:51:03):
Just what they gonna pay this cab.

Speaker 27 (01:51:07):
It's gonna be astronomical.

Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
Man. Well, eventually, as we've said that, the salary cap
is gonna have to be separate from quarterbacks are gonna
have to be separate from the salary cap. It's gonna
get to the point, Sean that you can't afford it.
You're gonna have to have a quarterback. You can pay
him anything you want. Then the salary cap applies to
the other fifty two cats. What's up? Hey?

Speaker 30 (01:51:25):
Before you left town and everything, remember what I catched
you about. Whenever you get back, I'll be knowing. I
don't know if you told Lima or not, but you know,
let me know when y'all want to do all that.
And no, we'll make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
We'll get it done. I'm back next week, so we will.
We'll plan it probably mid August. Is that about right, brother?

Speaker 16 (01:51:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:51:45):
That's yeah, that's cool. But let's make sure Lame is
on vacation.

Speaker 27 (01:51:48):
You don't need to be a part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:51):
Talking about when I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
There, John, it wouldn't matter. I mean, you don't have
to make sure that that happens like every third day
here we go. Why why do you catch a straight?

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
What have we got going on?

Speaker 8 (01:52:11):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
What are we going to be doing? Hey, dude, you
want to put it out?

Speaker 1 (01:52:15):
Why would you care? You'll be coaching some noll. What's
the next tournament? A stickball tournament? Yeah, stickball tournament in
South Carolina. Let's see, we've had tournament Florida. We've had
a tournament in Georgia. No, no, no, no, We've been

(01:52:37):
in Florida for regular aluminum bat. Then we went to
the wood bat in Georgia, Alabama. Same way. Don't say
the same thing. Alabama and Georgia don't play. Uh. And
then now the next one is a stickball tournament in Brooklyn, Brooklyn.
It was placed at the stickball right in the streets,
is right right in Brooklyn. How many days you take

(01:52:58):
it off for the stickball tournament? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
I got to look at my Palm pilot, my BlackBerry.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
Then we're gonna stick you back out West. You just
missed it. Take your kids out to the OTL tournament
over the line on the beach that you want to
talk about. A great event, dude, it's a thousands of
teams on the OTL. Uh. It's the over the Line
tournament in the summer in San Diego. It's incredible. So
you get your guys out there. They'll give you another week.
What else you need? Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:53:26):
You know the holidays are right around the corner.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
Well, you don't deserve these strays.

Speaker 3 (01:53:32):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
No, you really don't. That's a good point. You don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
But that's fine. I'll take them. That's all right.

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
And you know what, you won't be on vacation. You'll
be right there with us.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
Yeah, what do we got going on? Just text it
to us.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow your roll, dog man, slow your roll.
You're over there worrying about Clay Walker. I got you.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
I'm just trying to get the people fired up.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
Man, that's got you covered. Hey.

Speaker 3 (01:53:56):
Our guy, Hey, all I'm saying is our guy. Billy Chamberlain.
He tweeted us about nine minutes ago saying all this
Texans talk made me YouTube football time in Houston, and
he put a gift that says, let's f and go see.

Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
People fired up. Look what you've done to Billy getting
him all going this morning?

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
Billy? Do you want me to you want me to
pose a question to the listeners and have them call
in and defend it. No, No, we'll do it anyways.
Do you like It's Football Time in Houston by Clay Walker?
Or should be retired?

Speaker 1 (01:54:25):
Yes? Because man, this is a great cut. It's a song.

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
Yeah, when they win a super Bowl, we can pick
a new one.

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
No, want a new do you want a super Bowl?
Pick a new theme? Okay, we got a new quarterback,
Give me some new Hello.

Speaker 3 (01:54:42):
You sound like you're in a bit of bathroom.

Speaker 1 (01:54:44):
Get me. I don't know what happened by I think
my mic might have come up. Plug eat a new
theme song?

Speaker 3 (01:54:52):
My man put us on speakerphone. Is Clay Walker's it's
football time?

Speaker 18 (01:54:59):
And he?

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
Is it overplayed?

Speaker 6 (01:55:03):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
Is it underplayed?

Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
Is it properly rated?

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
Is it played out?

Speaker 3 (01:55:09):
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Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
You're back.

Speaker 3 (01:57:06):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
Get back at it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:10):
Their second game of the Olympics. Seven one three two
five seven is the number to join. Talking about the Texans,
let's go to Phil. Phil. Good morning.

Speaker 24 (01:57:18):
Yeah, I'm over the clay Walker Joint.

Speaker 1 (01:57:21):
I'll tell you what. I'll tell you who thanks, I'll.

Speaker 29 (01:57:23):
Tell you who could Who's got some some cuts?

Speaker 18 (01:57:26):
That gets the people going, is uh our boys?

Speaker 24 (01:57:29):
Chaboozi put a little Chaboozi.

Speaker 18 (01:57:31):
On on the speakers and that gets gets people going.

Speaker 3 (01:57:34):
Yeah Shaboozy.

Speaker 1 (01:57:36):
Okay, yeah, if you do not like Chaboozi, did you
just don't like shabooze? Okay, throw out all the records
when Chaboozi gets.

Speaker 3 (01:57:45):
What's your favorite jam from Chaboozi?

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
A lot? The one that the one that everyone knows,
not the bar is it?

Speaker 18 (01:57:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:57:54):
No, yeah, no, give me give me klay Walker over that.

Speaker 18 (01:57:57):
Come on, y'all have a going Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:58:00):
I appreciated Phil. I call them shabs due that bar song.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
No, it's just overplayed many Chaboozy is for Okay, Yeah,
I don't hate Chaboozy dogs. You're talking about the song here.
Here you talk about the conflicting reports. You say, Chaboozy

(01:58:30):
song is played out, overplayed, overplayed. Oh but clay Walkers
isn't no?

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
What simple as that?

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
What? Yeah? Football time and now give me give me
the booze master, give me boozy Chaboozy. What a name
to what a what a name? Chaboozy.

Speaker 3 (01:59:00):
That's how it goes essentially.

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
Yeah, oh okay, yeah, no, oh see one of your
down You've already lost this one. You're down one.

Speaker 3 (01:59:08):
Oh that's all right, boozy, come on now, I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:14):
I mean, I'll take that raboozy Playwalker's cut right now
over football time. Football time, Houston is just played out
as it gets.

Speaker 3 (01:59:22):
D well, I'm it's that's fine. I guess I'm over one.
Let's uh, let's hear from line three. Okay, line one
man trade deadline's over. You know, Astro was one last night?
People were just down on clay Walker. I guess phone

(01:59:44):
line's empty. Crazy how that works?

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
Apparently? Really, this is still a baseball town, is what
you're trying to tell me.

Speaker 3 (01:59:50):
Uh Now, that's an argument. How long is that argument
going to go on? I think it's on like what
Donkey Kong Donkey. It's a unlike Donkey kar so the
arguments there. Yeah that I feel like that argument is.

Speaker 1 (02:00:05):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:00:05):
I mean, depending on how the Astros do this season
and what the Texans do, I mean, it could completely switch.

Speaker 1 (02:00:14):
He's got a better chance to winning a championship this year.

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
Texans are Astros.

Speaker 1 (02:00:19):
Yeah mmm yeah, take that your clay Walker cut and
smoke it dog. Okay, who's got one? The tough answer,
isn't it?

Speaker 3 (02:00:31):
Who has a better chance.

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
To be crowned at the end of the season Astros
are Texans to put a ring on their finger? You
should have put a ring on it?

Speaker 3 (02:00:42):
Okay, okay? So who, yeah, who has a better chance
of winning a championship? The Astros or Texans for this season?

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
This year?

Speaker 3 (02:00:51):
This year?

Speaker 1 (02:00:53):
I'm not talking about division title. I'm talking about put
a ring on it?

Speaker 3 (02:00:57):
Super Bowl in World Series?

Speaker 1 (02:01:00):
Right, So basically it even because they're they're they're tied
for first place, who's got a better chance? You got
the one hundred grand you gotta bet, and it's got
to go on one of them. You don't get to
spread the two. Who are you betting? It's this year?
Got a better chance to win a World Series or

(02:01:21):
Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (02:01:22):
Man? That's I think we should discuss that at nine
o'clock because we like that, don't I do? I like
that because we got Gill on the horn. You ready
to talk to Gil? We always love Gil. Gil. I
will hang up on you if I hear your GPS
lady in the background. So let's let's get that first thing.

Speaker 1 (02:01:37):
Oh no, it's not on. It's not on.

Speaker 24 (02:01:39):
Okay, all I like I like that song for the
for the Texas, but it's still not as good as the.

Speaker 1 (02:01:44):
Old order songs.

Speaker 18 (02:01:46):
Man's the order song were way better.

Speaker 3 (02:01:48):
Which ones? Which ones are those?

Speaker 1 (02:01:52):
You soon got? The Oilers?

Speaker 3 (02:01:53):
Oh god?

Speaker 1 (02:01:55):
Oh no?

Speaker 3 (02:01:56):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 26 (02:01:58):
Gil.

Speaker 31 (02:02:00):
Call everybody in my era, and I'm telling you right now,
best song ever.

Speaker 3 (02:02:04):
Is that the one that says you Houston, hang on on?
Is that the one says Houston Oilers number one?

Speaker 1 (02:02:09):
That's that's a good one too. They're they're even even
par on that.

Speaker 3 (02:02:14):
I don't know, man, Sean, I think we've played the
Gil howl? Are you if you don't mind me asking?

Speaker 1 (02:02:18):
Uh, I'll be sixty three at the end of the year.

Speaker 3 (02:02:21):
Okay, so you're you're a little bit older than Sean.
So you guys.

Speaker 24 (02:02:27):
And Sean grew up in you know, over there in California,
the surf in it. Yeah, we show again playing volleyball
on the beach, right O.

Speaker 1 (02:02:37):
You and myer and you're done. You've ever been, honey,
I have Gil turn it off? What do you mean
if I have I'm talking I'm not talking to Legged,
I'm talking for Legged buddy.

Speaker 4 (02:02:54):
Yeah, I love California.

Speaker 24 (02:02:57):
Girls look pretty dull one good and.

Speaker 1 (02:02:59):
I've lived in Texas for like two plus decades.

Speaker 24 (02:03:03):
So did you ever go hunting?

Speaker 1 (02:03:06):
Because nobody in California has ever gone hunting ever, or
we've never fly fish. We never do that. It's only
reserved for text that's like san Yeah, beautiful down there,
Barkley would say, oh dirty Gallaston.

Speaker 3 (02:03:27):
Yeah, we gotta get to the top of the our Thanks, Gil.

Speaker 1 (02:03:29):
Appreciate it, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (02:03:31):
You ever noticed when Gil calls, he's always driving and
we can always hear his GPS lady and she's always
telling him to take a.

Speaker 1 (02:03:37):
Left, and I'm always surfing.

Speaker 3 (02:03:39):
Yeah, that's right, that's right, there's that two.

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
Yeah exactly. Well, because once you cross this plane of California,
we just don't hunt. You're not allowed to hunt, right, Okay, Yeah, No,
we don't fish because we don't have lakes either, and
we don't deep sea fish or any of that off
the ocean. No, we don't do that. So come on, man,
you don't what you know about a half day bote
out of San Diego Harbor.

Speaker 3 (02:04:01):
No, I know nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:04:03):
Question, I'm gonna tell you right now. You know who's
close to winning Super Bowl and it's World Series this year.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:04:07):
We should probably talk about it in nine Still the.

Speaker 1 (02:04:09):
Astros, ooh it is, Well, don't give away too much better.
I just said it's still the Astros.

Speaker 3 (02:04:17):
Oh, no, I know, but I want to.

Speaker 1 (02:04:20):
I didn't say it was my opinion, Okay, might have been.
Maybe Tripoli said in my ear. Yeah we got we
got a talk back button in the year, you know,
a cough button, man.

Speaker 3 (02:04:35):
Yeah, peeling the curtain back a little bit, all right.
So the question is who has a better chance of
winning a championship this year, the Houston Texans winning the
Super Bowl or the Houston Astros winning a World Series title.
Let's discuss it in the nine o'clock hour. Next, that's
WORTS Talk seven to.

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Speaker 3 (02:05:25):
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Speaker 1 (02:05:40):
Can go home and do some homework with Gede Autry. Please. Yeah,
that if that, if that's what the no wonder the
Oilers never won a Super Bowl? Yeah, to listen to that,
to that all those great players, all those great players know,
I mean you think about how many Hall favors of

(02:06:02):
monster tough guys and they gotta come out to Hey,
Steinkouler picks up Fumble, Ruski.

Speaker 32 (02:06:09):
The Oers, Hugh Speeds, what thumb are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (02:06:17):
Warn Moon? Back to pass with Jeffrey fa hughsty O,
Hugh Stin, Oiler, Curly Coulp and Rober Brazil could kill
you because they're so good on the field.

Speaker 4 (02:06:33):
But h.

Speaker 3 (02:06:38):
What were we doing back then? What are we doing?

Speaker 1 (02:06:44):
Don't win a championship?

Speaker 3 (02:06:46):
My god, this makes you want to drop your bump
so bad and to say, what thump are we doing?

Speaker 1 (02:06:55):
Let me throw some names at you, Colp, Brazil, Moon, Matthews,
I mean Rose here, uh, I mean the great players right,
all along? Great players?

Speaker 3 (02:07:09):
Is the oiler?

Speaker 1 (02:07:13):
D O Childress hotep oy, Earl Campbell, Yeah, Earl Campbell,
bum Phillips, that great with our great defensive Stevie Jackson
and shitty blamed Bishop that that group of guys Chris
Dishman again, Bruce Matthews. Sean Jones, his moving back to

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past touchdown used the oiler what God was one the
wather the wader. We all love you blue because you
had the you don't want to hip about this logan
love you Blue because they had to listen to that crap?

Speaker 3 (02:08:01):
What I am crying? Oh my gosh, that is horrible.

Speaker 1 (02:08:10):
Can you imagine my guy? Oh way, bum Phillips. Hey, guys,
I got Kenny Stabler here. We're gonna go out and
have a beer after the game. Dan Pastorini and oh
by the way, Earl Campbell just ran for two hundred
random over and I want to sing you our song
ste Ots Hugh sted Oiler's tough guy stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:08:31):
Hey guys, what what you got our guy? He said
to Mi Heami dolphins. They used to have that song?

Speaker 1 (02:08:38):
What awful? Yeah, I'd rather tell tell Phil to have
puxetani Phil call with that.

Speaker 3 (02:08:47):
Oh my gosh, dude, I love Phil?

Speaker 1 (02:08:49):
What is that serious? That's my laugh at them. Man,
oh man, there's some fan out there that's saying, we
were talking about this is bad act.

Speaker 3 (02:09:02):
There's nothing better.

Speaker 2 (02:09:03):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:09:03):
You pull up into the parking lot at the Astronome. Yeah,
you're knocking down, you know, a couple of marble reds
and some Budwiser jamming that. Yeah, getting ready.

Speaker 32 (02:09:11):
No, hey, hit that cut shunks Oi, Sean, you grab
me another beer and while you're at it, hit that uh,
play that song, play that cut back.

Speaker 1 (02:09:24):
Yeah, give me a dip of Copenhagen while you're at it.
Low cut.

Speaker 3 (02:09:27):
Yeah, horrible, dude, that is terrible.

Speaker 1 (02:09:32):
Like I said, if that's the theme song, don't ever
bring that back because they'll never win a championship. Don't
put that on strapped No, no, or not, don't do that.

Speaker 3 (02:09:43):
Seven one, three, two, two five seven items. Talk to
Austin and we'll get to Kenneth Austin, welcome in. Good morning,
Sean and triple E good morning. Hello.

Speaker 33 (02:09:57):
Come on, I figured i'd just piggyback on throwing out
strays to Brian. Damn, when callers do that, it's just
I just laugh in the truck because it's just so
comical to me.

Speaker 3 (02:10:12):
So I was like, you know what today would be
a perfect you know, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:10:18):
If there's three three guys on the show, just say
to one, there's one, We're good.

Speaker 3 (02:10:26):
There's Austin. There's one specific caller that has been doing
it since I joined the show, coming up all. It's
over two years now and we've addressed it with this
person and he still just does not get it. He
did it last week and we're like, hello, there's two
other guys on this show. Her your reaction is what.

Speaker 1 (02:10:47):
Makes it price as man, Uh, there's another guy here.

Speaker 3 (02:10:53):
No, No, He'll say there's one guy, Joe, there's one
guy that he'll answer. He'll he'll get on the hornet.
I'll say, hey, let's walk him in so and so.
And he's like hey Sean, And I'm like, hey, Tim,
I know exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:11:13):
My favorite our guy? What our guy? Gosh, dang, why
am I trying to forget who said this? When he
like went on, he goes, well, I'll tell you what
he's called you by a different day.

Speaker 3 (02:11:25):
Like if you're like, that's Garrett, our guy Darren and
then bad, Yeah, I've only been doing the show for
over two years now.

Speaker 1 (02:11:35):
That's what I called him. I said, no problem. I said,
no problem, Gabe. Oh my gosh, what's on your mind?

Speaker 3 (02:11:45):
Austin.

Speaker 33 (02:11:46):
So I want to hit y'all with one because y'all
are gonna be real with me on this, and y'all
gonna tell me if this is a stupid take or not.
So part of me is wondering if the Astros this
year should have been sellers instead of buyers. Now Here,
here's my thought I'm kidding here, here's my thought process
behind it. We've had We've had awesome prospects from when

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we were awful all the way up until let's just
call it twenty twenty one, right, and those prospects were
able to land us Garrett Cole, Justin Verlander, Zach Grinky
and all of them. Well, we don't have that luxury
of a prospect anymore. Last year we were made it best. Obviously,
once you get to the postseason, the postseasons, the postseason,

(02:12:31):
I understand that. But I'm also wondering if we should
have maybe rebuilt the farm a little bit more for
in the future, so that way, hopefully come twenty six,
twenty seven, twenty eight, the falloff is not as bad
as what I have a feeling it's gonna be. Does

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that make sense?

Speaker 1 (02:12:53):
It makes a lot of No, it makes a lot
of sense. I completely understand. But let me ask you this.
I mean, even from your standpoint, aren't they too close
to sell though? I mean, aren't you still thinking they
can win a championship or are you out on? Do
you think they're not gonna win one this year?

Speaker 3 (02:13:10):
I think they have the potential to. Obviously.

Speaker 33 (02:13:13):
I think this year is gonna be a lot like
last year, where it's gonna come down to the last day.
And like I said, the postseason is the postseason. We
saw that with the National.

Speaker 1 (02:13:22):
Get in and we'll see what happens. Right, Yeah, exactly. Okay,
let me ask you one other question about okay, and
then the other thing you talked about. Okay, So if
you were a seller, let me make you. Let's make
you Dana Brown for a second. I want want you
to be in charge of the team. What would you
have sold.

Speaker 3 (02:13:40):
I probably would have got something for Bregman.

Speaker 33 (02:13:42):
I think we could fantastic prospects for Bregman versus just
losing him because he's gone.

Speaker 1 (02:13:47):
Well, if you can get three, if you can get
three prospects even though it's a pitcher. I get the
premium on Kakuchi. Can't you get too high prospects for
Bregman minimum? Yeah, if you, if you wanted to, that
would be the logical give up to go get prospects guy,
considering it's the last year of the contract. Yet you
don't want to give up a guy who's such a

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spark plug to your team when he's going good. So yes, exactly.
And I think I think a lot of people felt
that if they just stayed nine or ten games out
heading into it, even though they said they weren't sellers,
that Bregman thing seems like it would have been more
real than ever. Don't you agree, because you're going to
lose him without getting the fair value if you do
lose him. Yeah, that's a good point, So it's not

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stupid at all. I think there's other people who feel
like that. I think if they were one or two
more players shy, I could see where you're coming from.
But I do see it now. But even more, I
just think that they're still after all this, they're still
in first place, and you know what happens, Like you said,
you get in the postseason, a Pitcher goes on a
roller rater, that's right. So they're just so close. And

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with all this, you say, Okay, just a couple more
healthy guys, could they not be one of the favorites
in the American League? I mean in a seven game series,
don't you think they can compete with ball all the more?
Just with their moxie and stuff, you know what I mean.
So I get what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, it's exactly
that's my point. So it's not stupid at all. And
I get your thought process, but I get their thought

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process of why they're thinking, Man, we're way too close
to sell right now, right, we go get another arm
And if Kikuchi's good, man, we got a chance to
win another one. And if you're dating a brand you
Dan well, aren't thinking about just five years down the road, right,
You're thinking about I'm a GM. I want to go
win a title now. So I get both sides of it.
That's a hell of a point by you. Thanks and
appreciate you saying hi to me. And Triple E too.

Speaker 33 (02:15:34):
Well. My other thing was too is I mean, we've
seen seven straight years of ALCS appearances like, yeah, I'd
like to win another one this year. But I'd almost
rather set myself up for another seven years of an
ALCS run versus I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:15:52):
I'm torn.

Speaker 1 (02:15:54):
Three ALCS run. They'll say three more years of it
or one World series? What would you rather have? Sell
and go three more years because you got prospects you
get to the ALCS. But no, note you're not asshured
of a world series or one World series and keep
what you got.

Speaker 33 (02:16:09):
One World series for three of ALCS is. But if
you would have said seven, if you would have said seven.

Speaker 1 (02:16:16):
You're gonna take the seven chance, that's fair swap, that's fair.
There's that threshold of when you decide to go and
sell or buy. Good call man, Ye appreciate it, Austin.
Thanks believe Sean. You all have a great day. Brian.
I hope you cat.

Speaker 3 (02:16:33):
Appreciated. Austin. Hey, let's get the break. We got the
phone lines full right now, so let's get to you
callers next. Want to talk about these astros and also
the question that we pose at nine o'clock, who wins
a championship? Who has a better opportunity to win a
championship this year? The Houston Texans or the Houston Astros.
That's next the hottest takes.

Speaker 28 (02:16:53):
So emotionally tied to the team.

Speaker 3 (02:16:56):
The Sean Salisbury Show continues on Sports seven.

Speaker 1 (02:17:01):
It's time for a change. Which world championship caliber football team?
It's time for new song. You get new uniforms. Evolves
doesn't mean the old ones. You just put it in
the archives. It's there, it's it's made an impact. But
it's time for a new theme song. I gotta give
you the hepho. Dude, I'm running you, I'm sitting you down.
Get your dugout. He go, yeah, he gone. That's exactly

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so answer it. Who's gonna win the World World Series?
Who wins? Who's who's better closer to winning one this year?

Speaker 3 (02:17:30):
That's what's what Astros For me, it's the Astros. Texans
still got to get past Patrick Mahomes and the UH
and the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (02:17:39):
Tougher gauntlet of to put it this way, tougher gauntlet
of quarterbacks in the a f C. And there is
pictures in the American League.

Speaker 3 (02:17:45):
Yes, I agree that, Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (02:17:47):
There you go seven.

Speaker 3 (02:17:50):
Kenneth, good morning.

Speaker 25 (02:17:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 31 (02:17:53):
When I want you all night about who wins first,
it's definitely be the Astro because on what we know
and what we've just seen, these people called their way
back from the bottom.

Speaker 8 (02:18:05):
Man.

Speaker 31 (02:18:05):
You know we know this, but right now I ask
for the Texans. I still think of the craft shoot
for all we know, Hee, they might turn into any
Testaverty next year.

Speaker 4 (02:18:18):
You know, we don't know, you know.

Speaker 31 (02:18:20):
And and one thing about this manager here, you know
he'll be a good hib because this is somebody that
knows how to bring a team back from the bottom.

Speaker 4 (02:18:31):
And and and this is any team that.

Speaker 31 (02:18:33):
Ever hired this guy as a manager.

Speaker 4 (02:18:35):
Know he he's seen it.

Speaker 31 (02:18:37):
He know how to win, he know how to come
back from nothing. And look where they are right now.
You know, the door's open. It's anybody. It's anybody's year,
you know. But and and and and they find ways
to win, just like last night.

Speaker 4 (02:18:53):
You know I hate pitch last night, right, yes, hello, yeah,
we're here.

Speaker 18 (02:19:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 31 (02:19:00):
So this so this player hater, he came in when
we needed it. You know, that's a pown that way
I see it. But uh but anyway, man, and I
got one question.

Speaker 4 (02:19:12):
For you, Sean.

Speaker 31 (02:19:13):
You know you don't have to go into detail, but
this is a barber shop kind of argument. And it
was about Steve Larging.

Speaker 1 (02:19:21):
What was it?

Speaker 31 (02:19:22):
He wasn't the fastest tool in the shed?

Speaker 4 (02:19:25):
How did he do it?

Speaker 1 (02:19:26):
How? How did how did how was it?

Speaker 4 (02:19:28):
What was his age?

Speaker 3 (02:19:29):
What gave him the edge?

Speaker 1 (02:19:31):
What was it?

Speaker 4 (02:19:32):
Man?

Speaker 1 (02:19:32):
I got to know?

Speaker 22 (02:19:33):
Man?

Speaker 1 (02:19:33):
Yeah, and I can tell you that. I'll give you
quick detail. He's the best route runner I've ever seen,
still to this day. I played with Chris Carter. It
was a teammate. I've played with some phenomenal players along
the way. He was the best route runner. Steve Largent,
who was about five ten and a half, probably ran

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at his best upper four or fives, maybe four to six.
Maybe if Steve Largent would have played inside receiver in
this era, he might with the right team catch one
hundred and eighty five hundred ninety passes. He would cut
on a diamond, literally leave you nine six change. I
can remember I talked to Mike Haynes about when we

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played against Mike Haynes and Lester Hayes, which was maybe
the best corner tandem of all time, let alone of
that era. Lester Hayes should be in the Hall of Fame.
Mike Haynes is both long and physical, and I talked
to Mike and when we played them, I'll never forget it.
And it was my rookie year. We played him and

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we beat him, I think thirty seven or nothing. And
I've talked to Mike post career and Mike said, Sean
Lester did not like playing against Steve and it was obvious.
And Lester could guard anybody, he couldn't guard Larger. And
the reason why, to our caller, that he was so
good at getting open because fast is one thing. He
was so precise and dynamic running routes that if it

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was twelve yards, it was twelve yards to the inch,
he didn't he didn't miss that, and he knew how
to catch the ball with his hands, didn't rarely war gloves.
If ever, everything he did was exactly the way you're
supposed to and he knew how to set you up.
And that's why you could still get deep if you're
Steve Larger who doesn't run four four, because he knew
how to set you up with routes and understanding what

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defensive backs were thinking. He'd study their tendencies and know
how to get to them and get close to get open.
All the things you hear football skills. But You don't
have to be fast to manufactured getting open deep vertical,
but sideways football and options. We had third and six,
third and five. We were as good as anybody in
the league. My rookie year when David Craig was our quarterback,
we called it seventy y option. I've said this before.

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He would line up in the slot, then we'd move
him to the slot. We'd go four wides. This was
in eighty six. Four wides. We called seventy y option.
And I asked the coach for months, what's the read
when I came in as a rookie. Throw it to eighty.
Now was a manyimp asked all through mini camp, wain
to train camp, the coordinator of the quarterback, coach and

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David Craig, throw it to number eighty and we had
a comeback on the outside fifteen eighteen, back to fifteen
and large. It would run a six yard option route.
We give him a four way break. It was either
fade versus press coverage man pushing lean against a guy
and runaway versus inside man outside man lean and pushing
runaway inside and verse zone. He'd stretch the outside of

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the zone and sit four way break. You drop back,
or we'd get in the gun, you'd snap it to
Dave Craig, he'd stare him down and large it would go.
Win couldn't cover him. He knew how to Ree was
so good at running routes, and to this day, of
ten years of playing it, of thirty years of covering it,
and of coaching it, I have never seen a more
precise route runner and finisher on the football than him.

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There's been better and more talented receivers, but no better
route runner. So that's how he did it. And he
had an incredible way of when you say, what does
stretch the zone mean? They'd play inside and outside man
on him, knowing we were throwing it to him, so
they would zone. They would double him inside leverage, outside leverage,
so he would stretch the outside leverage of the outside

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defender to widen him even more, put his foot in
the ground, turn back in and still have room from
the inside defender in zone. He was brilliant at studying
his opponent and the best. To this day, he is
the best route runner and I would say I still
have never seen a better one, not just on my team,
on any team. So that's how he did it. And

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his competitiveness. He did not drop balls in one last
quick one during training camp or sitting in a locker room.
I've shared this story with you, Brian, I think and
I think I've shared it on the air. My rookie year.
I'm sitting next to Earl Winfield, really good player from
North Carolina, or sitting in the locker room about eight
of us rookies during training camp, getting ready to go
out for the morning practice and then the afternoon practice.

(02:23:54):
And you could see out on our practice field through
our complex windows from where we were sitting weight room,
locker room. He go out and sit in the weight
room and look out there, and I'm sitting next to him.
You know who's out there a half hour before practice
starts in his full gear running the route tree, running
the route tree, and that year he became the all
time leading receiver in NFL history. You know who? The

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only guy out there on the field running the route
tree was a guy who'd been in the league at
over a decade and was the best receiver in the
league numbers wise, as Steve Largin. While a rookie receiver
and myself are sitting in the locker room watching him
warm up. Guess what we did. Guess what I started
to do after that, went out there and asked if
I could throw balls to him whatever. I just wanted
to watch him because I thought, there's a reason why

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he's going to the Hall of Fame and us group
of rookies are scrambling around to make a team. That's
the honest of God truth, run and he'd catch ball,
he'd Everything he did was to get better every day.
He didn't have to make a team, So it was
I rave about him because there has never been a
better route runner, a receiver catching the football than Steve

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Largin period period in this league. There's been better talent
Moss and that. But when you combine if if he'd
have been six four and four to three, please, But
he knew what his weaknesses were, so he stayed away
from him and he got better. His route running is
the best I've ever seen at any time, at any level.
He was phenomenal. And he didn't lay balls, never hit

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the ground when you threw it near his radius, never
hit the ground. That's Steve Largin. Oh, I'll take you
to break. Okay, Brian, get that call. Well, here's the
next call. Who's going to win a championship this year?
Who's closer? Astros Texans your choice? Who's closer to a

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Speaker 3 (02:27:44):
It's good stuff. Seven three two five seven. Hinty, let's
go to Don.

Speaker 21 (02:27:48):
Hello, Don, hey man.

Speaker 28 (02:27:51):
How you doing Hey, you know, I was umpire for
over thirty years and I've seen good managers and bad managers.
And I'm going to tell you right now, you have
managers and you have friends Joe and Dana. I don't
really appreciate him at all, Joe especially. I think he's
more of a friend than a manager.

Speaker 3 (02:28:08):
And I'm going to tell you.

Speaker 28 (02:28:08):
Why we get rid of ow Braffido, who, by the way,
is batting one for seven, four strikeouts. His base hit
that he didn't get with eighty miles an hour off
the bass, so I don't really count that as a
base hit. But if you're going to do that and
let him go, and now you have Pedro Leon that
you're going to bring up. You had every opportunity in

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the world in the last two games to bring him in,
and last night was a perfect example why Pedro's in
the doghouse for some reason. You get a base hit,
you bring in a runner, and you bring in cabbage.
Instead of saying, hey, welcome to the big league, Pedro,
We're going to let you pinch run on this per
particular situation. Chas McCormick right now is in Maldonado, Land

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on batting He's had his one hundred games chance to
make a den in this organization, and this year is
just not it. Let him go on down and work
things out. Put him on the bench, let him work
things out. And I think that pedro Leones turn and uh,
I'll just hang up and listen. Man, But I'm going
to tell you right now, it is really frustrated, especially

(02:29:13):
watching these umpires call these balls and strikes right now.
After thirty years of calling balls and strikes. You know,
I'm sitting there watching these guys calling, you know, two
balls off the play, three balls off the plate, and
then balls hitting the line that's right in front of them,
and they're calling them a ball. You know, the managers
are running these umpires right now. It's not the umpires
running the manager. So I'll just hang up and listen.

(02:29:35):
That's my two cents worth, y'all.

Speaker 3 (02:29:37):
Have a great day, you too, don Thank you. I'm
actually surprised that uh Pageloni peder Leon has not gotten
the start, Sean, I really am. I thought as soon
as they brought him up, I thought he would be
right there in the lineup, but yet he hasn't been
there yet. Not sure what's what the hold up is
maybe we'll see him Friday night, hopefully see.

Speaker 1 (02:29:55):
And Brian, they didn't want to interrupt you when you finishing,
but I'm with you. I in a call. I I
think his call up has been I think it's late
to the party. We reward guys, and when they said, well,
Lizzie ready, I mean we've seen guys with lesser resumes
on the minor league level get opportunities. Yeah, and while
he's up, I don't know why he's not getting run.

(02:30:18):
It almost feels like the low perfeto thing that was
coming that you want to now do you want to
almost shine down on Peter Leon and let him show
his skill set? Right? I don't. I don't know why,
but you may have something special there. I don't know
why it's taken so long. Like I said, it's for
four years we've been talking about his name. I mean

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when I just it's like, okay, Peter Leone and just
not getting any run and it's time, man, it's time,
and you may discover something. There's the second half of
the scene and say, okay, there's this is a skill set.
So I understand our caller and your frustration in mine too,
And the fact that he has gotten run yet since

(02:31:01):
he's been up is a little odd too. Agreed.

Speaker 3 (02:31:04):
Yeah, I don't understand why he's not there, meaning in
the life.

Speaker 1 (02:31:07):
If not, they put him back down and get him
at bats, if you're not going to play him at
some point, right, I thought, haven't we see it all
the time? They bring a gap the next day he's
starting either pitching or he's in the lineup to get well.
When a break you came back. Would we do with
him from Florida?

Speaker 3 (02:31:19):
He went straight in the lineup?

Speaker 1 (02:31:21):
You damn right, he did, and he was what was
he in one seventy or whatever for one hundred? Yeah,
so I know he's a veteran, But how do you
get a young guy who's been dominating in minor league
baseball at bats? You got to run him in there.
What are we afraid of a high leverage, sparate situation
for him? Why would we be If you're afraid of
a high leverage situation, guess what you need to do?

(02:31:42):
Stick his ass back down to the minor leagues. But
he's earned a chance. I think that's just me. I
think it's I think it's been overdueing. Now I don't
manage the team, and I don't you know, I'm not
the one who brings him up and down. But it
just feels to me like this is did the party
started late for getting pedro Leon an opportunity and we're
still waiting on the party has to be delivered. So

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we see what he's about.

Speaker 3 (02:32:03):
Right, Let's get one more call before we get the breaks,
doctor Joseph. Hello Joseph, Oh, yes, do it this morning?

Speaker 4 (02:32:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (02:32:14):
Me?

Speaker 1 (02:32:14):
Road is about the Houston.

Speaker 4 (02:32:16):
But you know in the ship that Sholl was quite popular,
and you know he made a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:32:21):
Of money, Triviley, can you let him know that his
connection is a little bit, a little bit choppy. Let's
try Conrad James. Conrad James is going on.

Speaker 14 (02:32:30):
Hey there, Okay, to answer your question, I'm gonna say
the Astros versus the Texans. I'll just say real quickly,
I think the Jets this year are going to have
something to say about that. Aaron Rodgers is back. They
have their number one defense in the NFL. If they
start clicking, there'll be a tough team to beat. Now,

(02:32:51):
I want to give a shout out, and I think
I think we don't hear this enough. But the coach
is okay, Espata put Dubon in at the right time,
matching him up with the picture. And then I saw
the hitting coach out there with the tablet talking to

(02:33:14):
Dbon and there's no doubt in my mind that man
is responsible for that home run because he told Debon
exactly what was coming and the Bond jumped on it.

Speaker 3 (02:33:27):
He has the skill set to do that. So I
just wanted to give a shout out about that.

Speaker 1 (02:33:32):
And finally, I just want to.

Speaker 14 (02:33:34):
Say Dana Brown did what he could given the situation
that we're in and the trade deadline. Yes he should
have started earlier, but he didn't. But I'm perfectly happy
with Kukuchi. I looked at video. He can be a badass,
and if he is a badass, we got a chance

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for the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (02:33:58):
Okay, that's all.

Speaker 3 (02:33:59):
Thank gone, James. I really hope Connord James Breakfast is
good munching down on something. We think it was like
a beigne, maybe a little bagel. Who knows, maybe a
donut could be a donut. I don't know, the world
may never know. All right, get to the final segment
here on The Shawn Salisbury Show on a Thursday, morning.

(02:34:19):
We got the Hall of Fame game tonight for the Texans.
What do we expect? Who could we see? Uh? With
some good playing time? John Metchi lasted, let's talk about
a next on sport Stalk seven eighty. This is the
Seawan Salisbury show sales.

Speaker 1 (02:34:35):
That's goodiful. I'll watch part of it. I'll watch part
of it. The probably the opening couple series for both teams,
I'll probably watch. I'll watch some of it.

Speaker 3 (02:34:46):
Yeah, I don't think not the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (02:34:48):
I haven't. I I haven't. I didn't watch a whole
preseason game when I played, so I uh, I'll watch
some of it. I probably want once it gets at
the most the first half, but just to see and
you'll you'll still want to, you know, as we get
into games two and three. You watch a little bit
later to see how backups closed games out and stuff,
you know, even in the preseason. But I'll watch a

(02:35:09):
couple series, yeah, to see to see what kind of
rhythm they get into. So we'll see.

Speaker 3 (02:35:14):
Yeah, I believe you'll have guys that I mentioned earlier,
John Metchi, I would assume is going to get some
playing time. Kamari Lasseter, the rookie that they drafted. He
is listed as first on the depth chart, but I
would assume that he's gonna get some playing time. Kate Stover,

(02:35:35):
one of the tight ends that they drafted, should get time.
Exavier Hutchinson wide receivers. But you're not gonna see CJ. Shroud,
Joe mix A, Stefon Diggs, Nico Collins Tank. No, you're
not gonna see any of those guys. But some of
these young guys I'm excited to see. Davis Mills is
going to get the start at quarterback. Damian Pierce will
see how he looks. He is reportedly gonna play as well.

(02:35:56):
So you know, I know it's early. It's August first,
which is crazy, it's actually August first, and it's just
a Hall of Fame game, But look, football's back before
we know it. It'll be the start of the season,
and the Texans have a really good opportunity to be
really damn good this year. And some of these other
guys are gonna have to step up and Phil Roles
at some point in the season. So let's see what

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they got tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:36:17):
The core of your team, as always, those other guys
that turn out to be guys I mean that really
come in and make a tremendous impact on your team
on special teams, or as the third receiver or as
the second running back, all those So those guys really,
you know, backup tackle that has to play two positions.
Guys you're like, you didn't realize you need them as

(02:36:38):
much you need them until you need them. Players know that,
and I think the fans get an understanding and coaches
sure as he'll know that. I'm gonna tell you what
else is something nobody talks about that this is going
to be a team that people are going to apply
to plug. They're going to be watching the Texans roster closely.
You want to know why. There's going to be good
players that are gonna get cut. It's gonna happen while

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because of their depth now that they've created, there's going
to be some people are going to be watching the tape.
You watch certain teams rosters that are like, man, they're loaded.
Some good players. Keep an eye on them. We'll take them.
We'll take a cast off from them. It's going to happen.
You can't all that receiver room, you can't. You can't
keep all those guys. They don't have enough there's not

(02:37:22):
enough roster spots, so you hide who you can development, right,
but veterans people are going to be watching to see
quite a few positions to say, Okay, if they get
rid of that guy, let's go get him. Because they
now have increased the depth and we haven't said this
for many years now here, they've increase the depth to
where a guy that's not going to make their roster

(02:37:45):
is going to be in the four man rotation a
wide receiver on some other team's roster. So watch that too.
These guys, remember, they're trying to make this team, but
the ones that are hanging on are also auditioning for
other gigs, whether it's team they play tonight, other teams
what they watch, and they're gonna be watching the Texans
closer because of what they've done and going out and

(02:38:05):
getting players the way Demico Ryans and this coaching staff
has developed them and teach them, and they're gonna get it.
You're gonna get a good player. That's not a handful
of good players that people are gonna be watching the
wire for this team when the first one comes around.
So you keep an eye on what if those guys say, damn,
we need to keep him, But where's he going to say?
It's called a surplus. We got it in the outfield

(02:38:27):
with the Astros. This is that that's a good thing
to have, but it's also you're like, man, I'd like
to keep them all, but you can't. So you can
keep an eye on some of that too.

Speaker 3 (02:38:36):
The another thing that just popped in my mind, Sean,
as we you're ready to get out of here, where's
missus Carroll?

Speaker 1 (02:38:40):
Ben probably you know, enjoying the Astros runs here for
miss Carroll second half of the role, right, I mean
we haven't heard from her in weeks? Yeah, Ali either,
I told you every day I'm asking for al Tom.
We finally got Tom. We finally got Tommy. You know
we got him. I'm yeah, we haven't heard from miss Carroll.

(02:39:02):
I'm hoping she's okay. And our guy. I don't know
anybody who we haven't heard from. It it's summer. People
take vacations, take a little time off, and rightfully so
so I get it.

Speaker 3 (02:39:11):
Hey, what's up, Sean? What's up? Brian? A shout out?
Triple Lee play the good cuts.

Speaker 1 (02:39:17):
Yeah, I'll hang up and get you take Yeah, that's
my guy.

Speaker 3 (02:39:20):
Man, Where is al all on the south side.

Speaker 1 (02:39:22):
Come on, man, Miss Carroll said you got this team
in first place. I mean she may not let her
enthusiasm you damn right she does. There you go. So
we all three agree Astros are still closer to a
World championship than the Texans. Yes, that gap is clubless. Yeah,
that AFC gauntlet a quarter of Now. I think the
Texans can, But if you had to bet the money,

(02:39:44):
the Astros are still a hint closer.

Speaker 3 (02:39:46):
Oh yes, just a step, just a step.

Speaker 1 (02:39:48):
There you go, there you go. Yeah, I think they've
been and they've been there. They've been there. So they
got that postseason we shop.

Speaker 3 (02:39:55):
They got those postseason shops.

Speaker 1 (02:39:57):
Dog got to have those chops. Dog.

Speaker 3 (02:39:59):
All right, I'm an gonna go get my classic Elite
Chevy pickup truck and I'm gonna James clay Walker on
the way home. I'll talk to you'all later.

Speaker 1 (02:40:05):
All right, I'm gonna jam Chameleionaire. I'll talk to you later.

Speaker 3 (02:40:07):
I'm going are you really yep?

Speaker 1 (02:40:09):
Come on,