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May 30, 2025 14 mins
Kicking into their revenge series against the Rays coming down from a bit of a hot streak following 4 straight wins, the Astros suffer a devastating loss last night against Tampa with a final score of 13-3. With the bats tapering off a bit and stretching the bullpen some as the Astros now drop 3rd in their bullpen ERA across the league from 2nd, Sean and Dan assess last nights dreadful loss to the Rays along with some positives to take rolling into Game 2 this evening as the Astros' power hitter yesterday Yordan Alvarez took live BP aiming to make his return back to the lineup for tonight's game.  
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The story has been told. The Astros a rough one
at last night there at dyke In Park, and with
that we say away we go in good morning here
on the Sean Salisbury Show. As Sean, I mean, it
was a game that started off rocky for the Stros
and then they're able to tie it up and you're
thinking to yourself, the way they've played late in ballgames

(00:21):
this year, Okay, hey, you got them right where you
want them. This is gonna work out just great. You
set up your bullpen to go king maybe a bray
you and hater there in the seventh, eighth, and ninth,
and with the seventh inning it did not go that way.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, Dan, good morning, And it's one of those times
when you have them during the year. It's just it
wasn't pretty and the bullpen wasn't at their best and
Tampa put it on them, they jump on them.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
It was not.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
It felt you're right like, well, here we go, this
is this is their time, but sometimes it's not your time.
It was ugly and they got to the bullpen yesterday.
It doesn't happen very often, but it was not au.
It was not a pretty watch, and they had to
get right back at it, and obviously over the weekend
with the next three days, it'll be important to get

(01:10):
that back because well, Tampa seems to play pretty well
against them, and especially this year, so they're gonna have
to They're gonna have to not only hit better early,
but also pitch better late, which does is not a
weakness of theirs. Yesterday it looked like and you know,
with King had his struggles and it was just it
was one of those days, Dan, You'll have We've seen

(01:31):
the Astros give it to others.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
There'll be a handful of those during the year.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
One where it's like it's a no brainer and then
no doubter, and Tampa put that on them.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yesterday. It was not a fun watch. No, it was not.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I mean for about the final hour and a half
of that game, it was one that at the end
of it you were kind of like, h yeah, not fun,
Like what did I just see?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
You were in and out of it at the end. Yeah,
we got some of you why I was in and
out of it to the point of okay, you know what,
I it's okay. I don't think I'm gonna miss anything
that's that's Good's gonna happen. So but you know, like
I said, it's one of those where you look at
your buddy when you're sitting there and you say, well, okay,
it may this may not be ours, and you move

(02:13):
on to today and you try to, you know, spit
that one out and flesh it out as quickly as possible.
But you know they can still go and do their
thing and win the series. But you're gonna you're going
to run into those and they obviously did. You just
don't want them too in a row. So there you go.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
That's the hope.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
I mean, the Astros have won now four of their
last five games, so it's still a strong homestand at
this point where you've gone, no doubt five and two
right now, so you'd like to be able to at
least get a couple of more if you get a
split in this series. Sean, a seven and three home stand.
I know that we're putting the cartway ahead of the horse,
but I mean it's a tough one and in a

(02:49):
weird way too. I mean, I don't know about you,
but it almost kind of feels like in baseball, once
that happens, you're able to mentally check out of it
a little bit. Where it's just like, Okay, it's gone,
it's done. Put it behind us. And you know, football
sometimes you get another week, and baseball you usually get
another day to be able to come out there and

(03:09):
make up for it.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, and that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I think that you know, when you're in high leverage
games on a regular you know that are back kind
of close all the time, which is normally baseball, right.
I mean, I don't know what the run differential is.
You know, I'm sure we can find it with a
click of a button, but what the run differential is
in most games during the season, or you know, if
you take every team one hundred and sixty two games

(03:32):
and say, I mean, we can look at the run
differential for each person, but I'm in a game, I
would say most games. That's why when you look at
a betting side, damn baseball run and a half run
and a half. You know what I'm saying. The site,
it'll like, oh, they're if they're favored by a run
and a half, run and a half, one and a half,
one and a half.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I would think that most games, I may be way off.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
It feels like most games are you got to you're
at least competitive with a chance to win.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Does that make sense for most games?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, and then what you know, we look at run
differential for individual teams.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
I'm talking about the overall.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
In the majority of the games in a season, most
people aren't checked out in the third inning because the
game's over the fourth inning.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
You know what I'm say.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Where it's a blowout right where it's like a nineteen
to three game, it's just one of those, and we
see them, and or a game when you just get
your ass handed to you. Most of them are competitive
where you're you you mentioned it, where that stress or
that you know you're you're heavy into it, whether you're
a fan or a player. But there are those games,
and we've seen them in football, and we see them

(04:37):
and you know, there's not many double digit spreads in
the NFL, usually within a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
They just are and it's it's baseball for the most part.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
But I know this is going to sound odd, and
you're never quit playing or competing in a game, but
you do go through at the end of one hundred
and sixty two games, look and say, okay, it was
the worst seven eight games of the year for the
for the Astros.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Or for the Red Sox, or for the you know Pirates.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
You know, some teams worse than others because they're just awful,
but of good teams, and the Pirates shouldn't be in
their Red Sox, Yankees and Astros and Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I'll bet you that the majority of the.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Games passed sixth inning and beyond, they were at least
in it with a chance to win a couple run
different whether that where you're as a player, you're dialed
and said, one swing at.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
The bat, we're right back in it. I would say
the majority of those.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
But I also know that there's those games that you know,
you'll look at eight or ten of them where they
got beat thirteen to four, you know, ten to two.
There'll be a handful of those against when you beat
good teams, medion teams like the Astros that you don't
check out Dan. And when I say it, it's like, well,
you got to compete all the time. It's impossible to

(05:46):
stay focused and play that duress under duress and play
the old leverage baseball one hundred and sixty two of them.
It's nobody does it, and nobody, there's nobody within that
rech of each other where it's like within two runs
in the seventh inning and beyond every game that just
doesn't happen, and you hit it in the same way

(06:07):
I'm saying it. You said it's simpler, but that there
are those games where like, okay, we'll just keep playing
and hopefully get into it. But it's not the mental
grind that beats you down. You know what I'm saying.
Two to one, three to two, four to two, the
base is packed in the eighth inning and you got
to get them out with the relief pitcher, where every
single inning is a grind. Now you want to relax

(06:29):
and play. Relax what I'm talking about where you know,
every get bat in games like last night or games
that are at times one sided, it can give you
a mental break. You're still competing and maybe some teams
you know, hey it's fifth and you'll see times how
many times you've seen Also, it happens in the NBA. Hell,

(06:49):
it happened in Game five with the Thunder and Minnesota
where you're starting the middle of the third quarter, it's
like we're up. NBA probably a little less because we
see too many you know, twenty point comebacks because guys
quit playing defense. But where it's like, okay, the manager
in baseball's decided, you know what this is, even though it's.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Not a day off, it's a fifth thing.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
It's a day where I can get my guy, pull
him out for a pinch hit or in the fits
that makes sense where the game's so blown out, guy's
been laboring, tired, Okay, let's rest him.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
You can give it. So you give your mind a
mental break. You need him. You just do.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
And I'm not saying you don't compete on all of
them and say, well, we can come back from eight
runs down. Of course you can. But there's this psychological
thing for a player. I've been in games like it
where you're getting in not a lot of them, where
you're getting beat up, and it's like, what the hell
I mean? Now you keep pressing. What you're thinking in
your mind is okay, I got it.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Next week. Is a football player in baseball? All right?

Speaker 2 (07:44):
This didn't happen in two days in a row, or
two games in a row or two weeks in a row.
You keep competing, but it's like some days it's just
those other guys that are getting paid are just beating
you down. And so you've got to give your mind
a break and say, Okay, I'm going to keep competing,
but there's.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Not that stress level.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
My hit means the world where in a two to
one game in the night to strike out looking at
pitches that you can carry that with you. Sometimes the
blowouts or when you get beat up a little bit,
are a little easier to come back from the next
day because you've mentally got you It's like when you're sick, Dan,
you've played sportsmen, you go with your body, go play golf,

(08:20):
or I've played in games and that wasn't feeling well
at all. There's this built in relaxation and that you
don't expect anything from yourself. So what happens Michael Jordan
one hundred and three degree temperature, whatever it was, You
go score forty and it's just because your mind is
like giving your body. It's like, man, I don't know
if I can get through this, and you find your
way through it, but you're so relaxed that hell, you

(08:41):
went four for four. And that happens in blowouts two
where it's like, Okay, gave me a mind a break,
then you come back next. I would fully expect them
today to find to play much better baseball the Astros
that is. So it's rare that good teams get hammered
like that two or three games in a row. But
it almost is a built in mental break, And say
a lot of times it's it's tougher to overcome those

(09:03):
getting beat down than it is back to back three
to two losses, because you know that, man, then you
start to grind on your other three at bat. This
one's like, you know what, they were just better than
us today. We weren't very good. And that happens. So
it's a long way of describing sometimes when you when
you I don't want to say check out, but when
you're mentally beat down a game like this, you can

(09:26):
recover quickly because you know in the seventh inning, he's like,
all right, man, go out and have a meal.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Wake up.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
So while let's get back at this again. This is
one of those ten days it wasn't us. Hell, you're
gonna lose sixty five to seventy of them anyway, So
sometimes you got to give yourself a break.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
That doesn't mean you quit.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Competing, but you do mentally relax a little more, saying
this isn't a two to one grind where might pop
up with the bases loaded crushed us. You're down nine,
you're down eight, you're down seven. You just you just
you keep playing. But it's it's a good mental break
for yourself at times. And watch it usually what happens.
What do good teams do after they get their ass kicked?

(10:02):
Come back and play better the next day and win
usually if you're a team that's focused, and I think
the Astros have that in them.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Well, from Ravel does set to go tonight, and he's
usually been a game it's been.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, pretty good.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
That's a good way to come back, right, Yeah, not
a bad way to come back, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
And to your question too about the average run differential
in games, couldn't find a run differential, but according to
Google AI, the average score of games is five point
two runs up per game, So it's around four point
eight to five point two per team. So to your point, Sean,
it's less than a run. Usually Vegas books give you
a line of a run and a half.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Right, right, So you're that's my point, and so you're
in those for the grind. When you get beat thirteen
to three and you and it's just then you're like, okay,
well then you know what you do Dan in truth
and in truth, really the game wasn't in this one.
The game was in they start a chance in the

(11:01):
seventh inning til they give what if I'm not mistaken,
they give up ten runs in the seventh and eighth
then any combined the game up through the sixth inning,
you were still grinding last night, but it was the
last three innings that got them. So when you even then, okay,
down five, then what did they score five more in
the eighth? Then you're thinking okay or two, but you
kind of let you You're not carrying it into midnight

(11:23):
thinking oh gosh, we got beat by this, but they
were in it. The frustration is why do we give
up ten runs and two innings at the end of
the game. So it's bothersome. But sometimes if it was wonder,
if the game stays like it is and it's three
to you know, it's a well what was it was?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I gues it was tied at one point three, two
three three.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
If the game stays like that and you're pushing yourself, now,
if it's thirteen to two in the second inning, it's
even a different.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
More mental a different mental approach, but.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
You're in it, and then the seventh inning and eighth
then you have ten runs combined and the two innings,
well then you kind of kick into okay at the end,
we got to fix this. Now you're concerned, is just
a what happened with our bullpen and what's going on.
They'll get it fixed because we've seen the history of
them this year and really over the last year is
how good they've vent. But what happens is when you

(12:10):
get beat that bad, it's like, okay, you look at it,
but you also start to dive into your own mechanics, like, okay,
let me work on some stuff. But the only issue
last night was you're in the game, and then the
seventh inning, top of the seventh to give up five,
top of the eighth, to give up five, and now
just like that, you blinked and it was ten runs
and you look around and say what happened? You don't

(12:30):
even have time to respond to it. But sometimes when
you get beat like that, the overnight effect is that
can't happen again. I would fully expect the Astros to
come back and play much better baseball, but when you
get beat like that, it's much easier at times to handle.
Even though you were in it through six seven innings.
It's six for sure that you have and you got

(12:52):
a chance to win it. But ten quick runs and
two innings that lasted a while will will allow your
mind to say, okay, that's not us.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Or a two to one loss, you start to grind.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
We've seen a lot of those, right, Danny two, Like
we left you know, eight runners in scoring position.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
This can't keep happening. I can tell you what they
do know. They're not giving up ten runs in two innings.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
We in a bullpen. They're not going to push the
that doesn't happen. That's the aberration for them. So you
can accept that a little more as just being one
of those nights at the end, because this doesn't happen
more than you can giving up a touchdown pass if
you're in it and you're up by six and they
go and beat you by seven in the fourth quarter
because you give up a last a last drive. Those

(13:33):
ones keep you up to night losses like this. If
you're the bullpen, you're like, okay, this wasn't us. You know,
this isn't you. As opposed to getting beat three to
two four games in a row, that becomes a problem.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
This is different.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
It just the way it looked optically in the seventh
and eighth inning makes it heightened, Like what happened. You're
going to get beat thirteen to three? Well, you know,
get beat by eight or ten runs a handful of
times during the year if you're a good team, and
this is one of them. Just just counted one of
your seventy losses. It's the way it works.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, those kicked it to shorts. They will start to
stack up for you in the Astros hoping they can
minimize those. For the most part, as we mentioned fromber Valdez,
going to go tonight against Ryan Peppio six o'clock Astros
on deck coming your way. We do get some good
news on Jordan Alvarez that of course will dive into
here during the show, but also with the bullpen for

(14:23):
the Astros last night, an aberration are a cause for concern.
I've got the answer. We'll talk about it here. It
is a Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven to ninety
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