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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc trop longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show. One
that's hammer day till left bail.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
You can't kiss it.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Good pop.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
One of the train tracks. A two run jack for
Christian Walker. Had a three nothing lead for the Astros.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Swinging this one hit in the left center field and
that is down for a hit.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
It'll go all the way to the wall. Al Tuvey
will score easily. Yiner right behind him. He'll come in
and score RBI double. A two run double for Christian Walker.
He's driven in four and the Astros leaded five to nothing.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Now when hammer to left field, going back on.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
It, looking up at the bah, I's off the top
of the wall, Pna into second base.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Pam Smith scores. It's an RBI double for Jeremy Payne
and he just did miss getting that ball into.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
The Crawford boxes. And the Astros lead it six to nothing.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Two one ground ball up the middle and past the
dive of the shortstop Kapra in the center.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Caratini scores. Smith tears for third to throw in. The
third is dropped.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Smith in safely an RBI single for Jacob Melton and
the Astros late.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
As nine to two.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Let it wash you over.
Speaker 7 (01:34):
You just feel it all the Bats of plenty last
night over at dyk In Park. Astros will go on
to win the game ten to two and send it
to a rubber game this afternoon. And he'd heard it
all last night right here on Sports Talk seven ninety
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Speaker 4 (01:52):
And with that we say away we go.
Speaker 7 (01:54):
I good morning, Dan Matthews, Sean Salisbury, Triple E, Emmanuel Elmore,
hanging out with you this morning.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Sean.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
We're finally having that show. I said it yesterday. I
want to have this show the morning after and we're
finally having it.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And with the guy driving in four runs and a
couple extra base hits too that you were wondering when
it was going to get going, Well there you go.
You got your gift, man, you got your present last night.
It came and the Bats of woke. The question is
sustaining it and making sure you do it but look
like an offensive ball club. That and Gusto did a
nice job last night. Man.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yeah, definitely, Oh go ahead.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I'm sorry if you I'm were going to say they
had it that performance like that, You there's a little
bit of comfort, right, you get a little bit of
stress free game, and the bats awoke and it was
awesome to watch.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
Definitely was and Walker last night three for four. And
another thing is too is I think they played it
on the TV before the game when Joe was asked
about walker struggles and he was like, hey, even sometimes
a little flair fucking down, you know, anything like that
kind of shows you that maybe you're coming out of
this thing. And sure enough, his third and final hit
of the game, a check swing that goes over the
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first basement in the right field, and you're just like, okay,
maybe maybe now all of a sudden, he's kind of,
you know, exercised the demons that have been been grabbing
a hold of him all throughout the beginning part of
the season.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
When you hit it hard, it goes to people. That's
why I said yesterday what is a quality? I mean, well,
what's a good at bat? What is it hitting the
ball hard and getting out or blooping one and getting
the base hit. Well, he did both yesterday, you know,
hitting it off the wall, hitting it into the seats
and then getting a blue pit, and so sometimes when
the ball's going to the wrong people, you start doing
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that and then all of a sudden they just start
falling and you start feeling good and to just get
a little get a little rhythm going. But last night
it was it was a nice watch seeing him do
that and getting rolling. So whatever a nice bat is,
hit it hard and get out. Well, okay, feel good
about we're doing it. But the average goes down and
could be misleading. Hit a bloop single and you know,
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blooper the base hit. It's like, man, I didn't see
If somebody didn't see the game last night, Oh man,
he rope three balls. Well he roped a couple of
them and blooped another one. But quality about he gets
a base hit. So it depends on your perspective. And
last night was as we talked to Dana yesterday and
asking him how Christian Walker's attitude, how he was feeling
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and understanding that he goes through these things and he
just keeps swinging. And that's why, as we said earlier,
you're not replacing it at first base. He's going to
play there. We saw all patient. They were with a braid.
You they're going to be every bit as patient with
this guy, and I think it's a it'll end up
paying off to whatever, to whatever payoff that is, but
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he'll be better than he's been and last night proved it.
And if you get that bat in the middle lineup
in Jordan back, now we're looking at something a little
different here and a little different a little different pressure,
the little less pressure that the pitching staff has to,
you know, throw three hitters and go through eight innings,
or a bullpen has to have to, you know, make
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every single pitch and pitch every single inning. It was,
really it was. It was nice to see last night
and I know people the ax Well was against the
White Sox. It's still to take them however you can
get them, because if I do recall the day before,
the Astros lost four to two. So it's professional baseball
and I'm sure for Christian Walker doesn't matter how they
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come so complete a pretty damn good team performance last.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Night definitely was.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
As you got eight of the nine Astros starters registering
at least one hit last night. You get multi hit
performances out of Jeremy Pania, East Soak, Perettis, jose L
two ve mentioned Walker Janer Diaz also in there in
cam Smith with a couple of knocks last night, so
it's nice to see that out of those guys.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Shout out to jose L Twove to.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
Career hit twenty three hundred for him, So I mean,
he just continues to go further into the record books
and the team as a whole. Sean eight for seventeen
with runners in scoring position, and for Walker, if I'm
not mistaken, two for two with four runs batted in
in those spots.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
That's what we like to see.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Been begging for that for a while, haven't we. I mean, now,
like I said, it becomes a matter of sustaining it
and being consistent. But that's how you knock out pitching
staffs and bury an opponent. When you got people in
position to score, you deliver those clutch hits at the
right time. The timing of the hits obviously more important. Hits.
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You can have twenty two home runs during the year,
but if the thirty home runs during the year, but
if twenty four of them are solo home runs when
you're down seven runs, like I've said, not really that much.
I mean, it looks good on the stat line, and
for a new contract, but it didn't make much difference.
But hits like that right timing, you know, a single
with nobody on and your down eight runs and it's
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the seventh inning, it's like, oh, deliver, but in this situation,
delivering with runners and scoring position. And it's been a
problem for them over the last you know, last year
and this year became a problem last year, And hopefully
they'll get that fixed and continue because two to one
wins with clutch hits are really really important. But also
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games like this where you give your pitching staff a
little less stress and where it's not a high leverage situation,
you'd go in there and just let it rip and
pitch makes it a little bit easier on them. And
last night it was a nice job by Gusto, but
a great job giving him some latitude standing on the
mound with the lead and the way they were swinging
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the bat.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
Yeah, And I don't want people to take, you know,
the first few minutes of the show to take away
from what Ryan Gusto did, because obviously a career high
six innings out of him strikes out seven, only walks one,
So that's nice to see scattering seven hits and just
giving up those two earned runs. We've been searching for
this for a long time out of Ryan Gusto. I mean,
because for the most part, Sean he'd been living in
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that four innings four in a third world where he
can't get out of the fifth inning, and he gets
out of the fifth last night, then he gets to
the sixth there and you're kind of like, all right,
one out, two outs, well can you get one more
to further the career high. I mean, that had to
be encouraging to see and it was really nice to
be able to see him put together that type of performance.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, you know, you try to find your role as well,
and he's served a couple of them this year and
has had his, you know, some difficulties as a starter
getting late in games and did a nice job. I mean,
we just we discussed if somebody like that at the
back end of the starting rotation can give you six
six and two thirds pushing seven innings and don't give
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up free runners, strikeout seven and last night was a
solid performance. That starter you saw last night is important.
You get a guy like that who's coming to the
back end of your starting rotation, well, you're looking at
a whole different a whole different team. You know what
you're getting at the front end for the two guys,
and then three up and down, and then the back
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end of four and five you're like, okay, what are
we going to get out of this? And last night,
if that's the Ryan Gousta you see on the mound
that's going forward, that's that's going to serve the astro
as well, and the arms and the bullpen, well, it
was an important start for him last night, I thought,
and I thought he pulled through. Like I said, he
didn't give a lot of free runners. There was not
a lot of stress. And you know he did his
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job getting some swing and miss and and put his
innings in. You log those innings, you'll have a fresh bullpen.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Well, and that's the you know.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
The other part of it is that, I mean, you
don't want to get too far ahead of yourself with
that start. I mean, he'd like for him to be
able to build off of that. It would be very nice.
But I mean, if you're able to get five innings
out of your five starter, most times you send him
out there. I mean, Sean, all of a sudden, a
month from now, when Dana Brown is picking up the
phone and trying to call teams and trying to.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Add to this team.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
Maybe that maybe that priority goes away for you where
you say, you know what you've got. You're getting good
stuff right now out of Gusto, out of Gordon, And
I mean it seems like for at least the time
being Brandon Walter being up here.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well, like I've said before, general managers, managers, coaches in
the sport, you're always looking to make your roster better.
You're you're always looking. You're always looking to replace somebody.
And when I say that, people say, what do you
mean right now? They want to replace out to it? No, no, no,
you're always looking and your eyes are open and the
ears are open, not like you're scouting like a like
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a sniffing dog and the gat you're looking for Dreagon
not like that. But you're not passing up whatever it
takes to make your roster better. If you're good at
your job and as a player, if you'll approach it
knowing that and and that that accountability and pressure, it
does matter. They're always their job. My job as a
general manager is to look to make the roster better,
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not to make more friends, not to appease the fans
on because he's a fan favorite, but he's hitting one
ninety seven or you know what I'm saying, or he's
been there. While that's not my job. My job as
a general manager or a manager is to play the
best players, you know, do what I can to get
by them. But as a general manager, my job is
to find better players. Now, if you've got great players
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and you don't have to worry about it, the player's
job is to make it miserable on the management they
ever have to replace. The player's job is to play
so well they can't replace you once. Is to replace you,
always looking the others to play well enough to entrepreat you.
And it's not that harsh you're waking up today if
you're your not Albatz Thonking, they're trying to replace me.
The point I'm making, I think you know, is that
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is the job title as a general manager. It's to
create chemistry. Do all that, get the right people for
the roster that help you win. The player's job if
you don't want them, to go trade for somebody Ryan
Gusta to find a fourth or fifth starter, what do
you do? Log performances like that, because then they get
to it and say, well, damn, he's on a roll.
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Do we want to give away assets. He's proven he
could be a fourth or a fifth starter, he's versatile,
you know what. We don't need to pull that trigger
of course, of course, and the layer as it goes on,
what happens you start to think, You think, well, you
know what, as we get closer to it, that memory,
that's closer to it. Man, the last five starts, the
guy's been on a roll. Nope, we're not making that deal.
We'll go somewhere else, We'll do something else. And it
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really is as simple as that. GM. I want to replace,
I want best, I want my best players as a player.
I'm going to make it difficult and impossible for you
to replace me. That's a job. And regardless of Ryan
Gusto of like, we say, well I get too hung
up on one start, he's got more of them, Well
why not? I mean he can't let it faster, But
he doesn't pitch again for what five or six days?
So for me, five or six games. So for me,
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I am going to make a big deal of that
because it's not so much momentum it's the confidence that
he may be gaining, because if it was a bad start,
you know, we'd be doing what's going on with the
guy gave us two and two thirds inning, he's got
to give us more. So on a good start, we
don't have to lag and say well only the bad
stuff got to really harp on. I know it's a
one pitch, it's one pitching performance. It's one game, but
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you got to do one and be good at one
to us to say, well, the streak is now two
or three or four in a row. Is a pitcher
or a hitter. Same thing with Christian Walker, great game,
Well it's only one game. Well, in order to get
to two, I had to get to one. Sure, so
if we spend just as much time all of us,
it's like, that doesn't mean you let it fester and
you over do the celebration. I don't mean that. But
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it's okay to feel good about last night because soon
enough that's gonna end and you're gonna be on the
rubber again, or Christian Walker is going to be back
in the batters box to have to swing again, so
you know, swing that bat. So we spend a lot
of time all of us do. When something goes wrong,
we're like, oh, gosh, get him out, what's wrong with
this guy? But when it goes good, like, oh, it's
only one. No, it was only one when he did
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bad too or struck out three times, so I think Ryan,
it's okay for him to feed off this and grow
confidence from him. We spend all of us spend too
much time on well, he struck out three times, but
when he gets three hits, that's not as important. Of
course it is. And both of those guys, Christian Walker
and Gusto, you get that performance of both of them
this year, the Astros will end up dominating the division,
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because that'll tell me everybody else. If he's still the
fifth starter, fourth starter, fifth started, depending on his role,
that'll tell me the other cats are pitching well because
you didn't move him up in the rotation with Walker.
If he's still in the middle of the lineup, well,
guess what that'll tell you start to get hot whatever
that is.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Yep, you definitely hope that that's the case for not
only him, but also for Gusto too. I mean for
both of those guys. I mean Gusto would be a surprise.
Walker is expected so hopefully the Astros can ride that
going forward, trying to go for the rubber game of
the series later on this evening fromer Valdez is going
to throw in that one. So you feel good about
your chances in this one tonight before you bring the
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Speaker 2 (15:11):
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Speaker 7 (15:14):
And with his performance last night, his average now rises
to two seventeen on this season. He was at two
oh eight heading into the game, and we touched on it,
and it's not only just a walker thing, Yiner Diaz.
I mean I heard Matt and Ross talking about this
yesterday and Ross said this, and I was like, you
know what, You're one hundred percent right. Let's just say
that Walker right now, like east Soak Predis is at
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two fifty four. If he's hitting that, then We're not
talking about Christian Walker because I mean some of the
issues strikeouts with the hundreds and scoring position, just general
struggles at the plate. We're talking about Yiner Diaz at
that point because of how good he's been with the
bat in recent years.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
There's no doubt about it. And if both of those
guys get rolling and the power comes out and both
of them, who are think twenty five home run guys,
well you're you're looking then the lineup we're talking about, man,
Look at the depth of the lineup and how deep
it is, So yeah, you're exactly right. But er Diaz is, uh, well,
he's had his struggles this year. I think we all
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fully expect that he is going to good hitters hit man,
and it may not be the same average you want,
but good and hitting the right position, meaning at the
right time the timely hits. So I uh, he's a catcher.
Was the catcher of the future two years ago for
a reason, and it wasn't just behind the plate, more
importantly at the plate when he is when he's on
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the offensive side. So yeah, it is having them both
at this this year. Think about it now and you're
still what now thirty seven and thirty, if I'm not mistaken,
with thirty seven and thirty sitting here, the astros are
and you're sitting there with Jan Diaz who's had moments
now getting better, Christian Walker last night to hit the
ball harder. But neither one of them have had the
season start that you want. And that's so true. The
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normal lineup before the season started was Al two, Ve
was Paradis more than likely in the two hole, and
then it was going to go jord On Walker, Yiner.
Now you tell me what three, four and five, for
the most part offensively have done for you this year.
Not what you expected thirty seven and thirty and now
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you've moved pain you to the Obviously Al two he's
been hitting. There are times in the three you got somebody.
It's just it's fluctuated. It's been the lineup's been different.
But when you look at it, the three four and
five that were more than likely gonna be Alvarez, Walker,
Jiner or however you mixed and matched it. Maybe one
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of them was going to hit the six hole at times,
But the middle of your lineup has not supplied the
same power your third baseman has. Think about that, to
think of thirty seven and twenty, and you're right, you'd
be talking more or less about one of the other.
They didn't struggle yet. All three in the middle lineup
have had their struggles and or injuries this year. And
at some point while they were cold, you said they're
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going to get hot. Well, what happens when they get
hot and you're already thirty seven and twenty without them
catching fire for a sustained amount of time. It's a
good problem to happen. Man playing thirty seven and twenty
baseball and we're raving over one performance, and rightfully so,
because like, yes, that Christian Marga that looked like the
guy that you signed, and those three get rolling and
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you get the consistency of paratus, and we know what
OL two B is all about, and pain is playing
out of his mind as he has all year now,
one through six, one through seven, which would mean your
eight hitter or your nine titters hitting three hundred plus,
and that's Jake Myers. Now it's a whole different narrative
on the baseball club. When the supermodels of the supermodels
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aren't doing the supermodel stuff. We don't think there's any
good supermodels. But when when seven and eight, nine are
playing well and one's hitting well. Somewhere between two and
five and six, it's been kind of a uh. It
makes that everything else, It takes away from everything else.
But everybody else could be struggling. But man, when the
middle of your lineup's breaking and you're getting good pitching,
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we seem we assume that all nine are hitting when
only the guys on the periphery are hitting. Guys, we
don't consider your big boppers in the middle. Everybody else
is hitting and they're not, we assume that well, they're
not playing well. Now, no metrics and numbers will bear
out the stats on all of them as a team.
But the perception we get is when the middle of
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the lineup hits, everything's okay. That'd be you know, your three, four, five,
and six when they're everything's okay. When they're not and
everything else is okay, it feels like a bigger struggle,
and it probably is. But there you have. We got
the three guys in the middle of the lineup that
we're going to hit between three and six, regardless of
whether it was four or five or six. That's how
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that lineup was going to be. And they have not
I lived up to what they have expectations themselves and
what we have. If that gets going, the perception and
the narrative shifts on this team immediately.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt about it. And
I know that I said eight of the nine starters.
It was actually seven of the nine. Sorry Victor overlooked
you going for three last night. But still, I mean
to your point, I kind of think of the football
example here, a defensive one, even though we're talking about
offense with the astros, is who are your leading tacklers. Well,
your free safety is your leading tackler. Okay, it's better
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than not making the stop with the bottom end of
the order getting hits. But you want your linebacker, your
inside linebackers to be the guys that are getting the
most stops, because then you say, all right, well the
play is not going all that far down the field.
You start getting into the secondary guys that are your
leading tacklers, then usually it means bad things for your defense.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
There is no doubt it's great you have it. Now
if you're playing an active defense where that guy's will
sitting down and run stops. Safety is hanging in the
hole and is basically an outside linebacker leading it. Well,
then you're probably a little bit better. But if you're
back in guy leads your team and tackles, it tells
me you're getting mauled in the front seven. While it's
good individually for that guy, it means you didn't get
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your gig done. You didn't get your gig done, and
I got to clean up. Yeah, that's not usually a
good thing, unless, of course, you're a box safety who
doesn't cover and you're in essence of Sam or a
will linebacker, an outside linebacker. Okay, because your presence is
down there all the time. But when you're a secondary
guy and you're a too high safety or you're you know,
playing coverage, and all of a sudden, they're baking and
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they're average seven yards of here and you're making the tackle.
After an eight yard game, you look at the numbers. Set, man,
a guy's got twenty nine tackles in the first two games.
And then you look at the scores and say, yeah,
and our defense is given up six hundred yards and
sixty points and two outings. That's not a good thing.
It's the same thing here. You're exactly right. So some
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can be misleading and when it comes to the team
structure of it. But yeah, you don't want your you
don't want your back end guys to lead the team
in tackles, that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Yeah, it just would really be nice to see prolonged
success out of those guys. I mean, you know, you
can't necessarily count on it going for weeks or even
months at a time, but at least increased production. I mean,
you know, out of Walker, it's nice to see a
performance like that La last night, because I mean I
can't remember the last multi hit game that he had
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with him it was if he got a hit, it
was one for four, And I mean you just can't
ride that and think you're going to get long term
success out of that. I mean, those are fine, they
have every once in a while, but you want to
be able to every once in a while as well,
at least with a little bit more consistency. The two
hit performance last night, the three hit performance where he's
just a triple shy of the cycle.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, you were one, correct, I And while you may
not be able to sustain it for months, there are
play We've seen guys, guys in the middle of a lineup,
whether it's whether Christian Walker Yaner Diaz can pull it off.
And last night in the case, Christian Walker waited. But
you know what, as the guy in the middle of
the lineup who's got power, those guys can go in
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bunches and it can last two or three weeks, just
like slumps can't. It can go him up. Now, Jordan's
a different cat when it comes to that, because he
literally can't carry you for a half season. Now, you're
gonna have to get a good pitching. But at the plate,
we've seen him where it's like, man, it feels like
it's been going on for two months. They can't get
the guy out. We've seen players around the league. Hell,
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some guys live there. That dude in Los Angeles, the
pitchers and hits when he's healthy. You wake up and
you say, how do you get seventeen home runs? Well
nighted and he does more good. I mean he goes
through those. Even when he's going one for four, it's
one fourth home run to RBIs. I mean it just
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those guys can do it in bunches. And you know what,
they brought Christian Walker in here to to obviously be
more consistent. You're not gonna he's not gonna hit three twenty,
but if he can hit two sixty with twenty six
home runs and eighty five ninety rbisen, then then you say, Okay,
this was a good get. So it's gonna be important
also protection wise and for this team for him to
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sustain it longer than one or two games in a row.
And last night gave you a good indication of why
what data brown and the team says, why they like him,
and why he's been hitting the ball hard and just
he's been a little unlucky and sometimes that happens. Last
night he was very, very lucky and very good, not
even lucky. Put the bat on the ball and the
ball went out of the ballpark, and you know, he
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was hitting it all over the place. Extra base hits,
which we talked about the two days or three days ago,
how important they're going to become when small ball's fine
once in a while, but you're gonna have to you're
gonna have to slug, and they did last.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
Night, absolutely did, to the tune of fifteen hits and
ten runs. Great to see that for Christian Walker nine
home runs and thirty three runs batted in on the season.
Six of those nine have come at dyke In Park.
So hopefully these next four games teams he can really
continue to make the most out of this homestand Joe
Aspada's trust in this guy has paid off, and we
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will talk about it to see if indeed it can
continue to pay off for the Astros here as they
continue through the season.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
We'll talk about it right here.
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Three or four under eight. Winning this thing, I'll be shocked.
It's supposed to be fair but difficult. I mean, if
they get under par on this there's some predicting this
is going to be one over par maybe. And the
gentleman whose name you mentioned in God bless whoever it is.
You know, I follow golf. I have no idea who
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the leader is, and that that doesn't matter. Some do.
And hey, you're the leader early in the morning at
Oakmont at a major at three under, post that score
and play that way every day and you will win.
But and we've seen people come out of nowhere to
win stuff like this, but I would bet on your
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futures that that's probably not going to be the winner
when it's done. But man, he comes out like I'm
three under already. What a good What a good feeling
that's got to be with the group you're playing in
and with the people you're you know, playing against all week.
So that's gonna be a fun tournament at a pretty brutal,
difficult golf course. So I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Got it on here in studio and they just showed
how he got the two under to start things off,
and it was a whole out from the fairway on one.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
So nice little now.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
You can get them, that's right, take them how you
can get them.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
Absolutely, And I had no idea that Trey Wingo doing
stuff for NBC Sports now, So that's good to see
Wingo back in it.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Oh good. Yeah. Yeah, He's done stuff for some you know,
some some betting people, and obviously was my partner at
ESPN for a long time and really good guy friend,
and I know how much he loves golf, so I'm
sure this is a thrill for him to be able
to do some stuff for NBC at that venue. If
he is there, I haven't seen it. If he's at
the site that I know how much he loves golf,
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But to be back in the mix of it, good
for him, good guy, and I'm glad Tom.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Yeah, absolutely so a lot of good groups out there
early this morning. Like I said, we'll keep you up
to date on what's happening out there at Oakmont Sean.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
We talked about Joe A.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
Spada and his words after Ryan Gusto's previous about two
or three starts, and I think it was two starts
ago where he was asked point blank by Chandler Rome
of can you continue to do this with this guy
where you're not getting out of the fifth inning, and
he said, yeah, no, we trust him.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
We're seeing good things.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
See he's gonna get there, you know, don't worry and
paraphrasing him, of course. And then the same thing after
his last start out against the Pirates where the Astros
bats and that one did not come through for him
and you lose that one three to nothing, gives up
a couple of runs, and then another one later. But
last night you saw that trust pay off, And I
mean we talked about it you know, we want at
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certain times guys to be yo yoed out of a
lineup or out of a rotation or anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
But Joe Spota, I mean, it just goes to show you.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
He was this way last year in his first year,
and I praised him at the time Sean of saying,
it's amazing that a guy that's got his first managerial
job is able to have this type of patience and
not be reactionary. And he's taken those lessons in year
two and he's taking it even further.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
There is no doubt, and you're always going to be
questioned if you keep them in too long and things
don't work out well. Wise, he don't get rid of
m you know, be a little more knee jerk. And
when your knee jerk, people want more patient. So you
really you're in a position where it's difficult to win
unless you're winning. And this he knows the culture of winning.
And he even said during you know, before the left
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of spring training got us about how important year two
was for him for the things he learned. Patience is
a good thing. The one thing I always tell people,
I say, there are around these guys every day, even
from our optics and the guy struggling, why do he
stick with him longer? Why are they running him out there?
Why is he a starter? Why not back in the bullpen?
For whatever various reasons they decide in their own clubhouse
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and in their own meetings. But I do know this
that the Ryan Gusto also with people starting to work
to get healthy, he's pitching for his his spot in
the starting rotation. And that can be either detrimental to
some who can't handle the pressure or really good for
some who can, because he really is I mean, it's
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not like he's your number one or two starter. No
matter what happens, you're running him out there. I mean,
he may be in the bullpen. He understands it right now,
this is his role, but I would imagine he'd like
to keep this role. And part of that, and the
a spot of patients is things that they see and
know about his stuff and his makeup that maybe we're
not around every day to see how he handles a
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win like this, but also see how he handles a
loss when you're around him. I know how they're saying
it the media. I'm talking about the everyday optics and
body language and that that a guy goes through Christian
Walker him when you ironerdas are struggling how to how
certain guys in pros handle things that have been through
it more and been through it less. But there's also this,
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this great incentive is a player when you know that,
and I hate that your starting position is not the
most secure in the rotation. So you got really two choices.
You need to pitch well and validate their patients, or
you go three in three and a third three more
times in a row and give them an easy out
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to make sure that you're in the bullpen. And I
would imagine Gusto likes this role and he pitched last
night like you did, so yeah, and for a spot on.
These are the reasons when you watch last night, when
a manager who's only in his second year but knows
baseball see stuff, and when you going through tough times,
they see enough stuff to say, well, it's not just
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by attrition, we got to throw them out things we
have no bodies. It's well they still think of the
guys they're running out there. He gives you the best
chance in that spot. And I know it's pretty simple.
It sounds simple, and it truly is you keep pitching well,
I can't take you out, meaning like last night, you
keep going three in a third, or can't get out
of the fifth inning or the fourth inning. You're going
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to make it real easy when people get healthy. And
that's all that's all Gusto can do is is post
and post well. And he did. And what does what
last night does is validate why Joe Aspata learned his
patients last year and has carried it over and at
times can be maddening to some from a distance of
like why And as I've always said, I'm always looking
for a why answer. Well, the why is they see
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more than we do, and they see this, and I
would imagine they've seen enough stuff that this is kind
of a bench of your head set. And having a
beerau of Sandwich and jbar and barbecue with Joe Aspota
that Joe would say, well, that's the guy we expect.
Knce the patience. So Joe spot on learning on the
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job as well. Listen, he's only in a secon year.
Regardless how many years he has been in baseball, You're
still a manager, just your first time, and it's only
your second year. You can play quarterback forever. Be a backup,
and when you're the starter, it's different. Oh, he's been
in the league forever. You should know that it's just
different because you're prepared and to look at it different
when you're the guy making all the decisions. Patience has
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been a good thing with Gusto and last night, for
at least last night, it paid off well.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
And it's exactly what I had talked about earlier in
the season with him of you know, just doing again
the yo yo of him going back and forth between
the rotation and the bullpen, and it's kind of like, man,
define a role for this guy, Like, if you want
him as a bullpen guy this year, then have him
as that. But you know, if you want him in
the rotation, which by necessity they have, then keep him there.
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And last night able to use a little bit of
that longevity'd go deeper into the game. As I mentioned,
six innings out of him in this one, and he
throws ninety one pitches, which I believe is a new
season high for him too. So you'd like to be
able to continue to get starts like this out of
Ryan Gusto, and hopefully the Astros can going forward. I
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used a couple of words earlier that I think will
come back to help this twenty twenty five Astro's team.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
One of those two words. We'll discuss it right here.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
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Speaker 7 (36:02):
Especially with injuries to some key guys. I mean, we
focused on the starting rotation and for good reason for
all the guys that you have not had or at
least are without right now. But it's in the lineup
and that is Jordon's out, so you've had to have
Victor Karattini get more at bats. And you also are
without Chas McCormick at this moment, so that means more
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playing time for guys like Jacob Melton getting the call up,
and you know that Jake Myers is gonna be out
there in center. You also know that Cam Smith is
going to be out there in right field. But still
you're gonna get those guys back at some point, all
of a sudden, when it seemed like you did not
have a ton of the two words functional depth, it
does seem like once the Astros start to get guys
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like Jordon and Chaz back, that Joe can look at
his lineup and say, oh, I got guys I can
count on.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
There's no doubt the depth of that lineup with as
many lineup changes as this team has had, meaning they
don't have a problem giving people well, keeping people on
their toes, knowing they're get mixing in McCormick and making
sure Dubon gets starts at a couple different positions, getting
Dezenzo when he's ready to go some at bats, Melton
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gets it. They become deep in a hurry and they do.
And when you're bringing a guy who just a couple
of years ago we thought was going to be an
everyday player in Chas McCormick when he had his best
offensive season, and get him back in there that's a
good thing. I mean not starting every day. You get
a veteran on the bench who can give you that. Yeah,
there's no doubt about it. Health is an issue for
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every team as the season goes on, and who those
healthy and non healthy people are. But when it comes
to this, you get the good pitching. But if you
can get those guys healthy, boyd doesn't lengthen your lineup,
but also give you the leeway to give guys rest.
Whether you like people taking rest or not in baseball,
it's needed depending on how much is up to each
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person's individual loves. But I can tell you this that
having the ability of spot and the opportunity to be
able to make changes and not be forced into a
decision because you don't have depth is a really really
good problem to have. It really is. And they get
healthy and all of a sudden, a few of those
guys get hot, we're looking at a different offensive team.
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As long as this pitching holds up, everything else is
gravy in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Well, you heard what Dana said yesterday.
Speaker 7 (38:22):
I mean he feels like this is a World Series
roster at the moment, and he'll feel even better once
the guys start to put it together offensively. And it's
not even to say the other part of what I'm
talking about, where you're going to have a regression from
Jake Myers. He's not going to hit three hundred like
right now he's at two ninety five. That's not going
to continue. He's going to get back to being a
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maybe two fifty hitter. But with what he gives you defensively,
and you just hope that you can get on base
much more than you're not, or at least he has
in the past, then I mean, you still feel good
about what you have one through nine.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Oh, there is no question. And you know we can
keep saying, well, Jake's not going to live there, but
we said it a month ago. There there's no way
he's still there. People have had outlier seasons. I don't
know if he's going to hit two ninety five or
three h three or two thirty four. He may very
well go. But it's an amazing thing when you start
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to validate the belief they showed in you, and they
have shown it in him. Talking about believing in Ryan Gusto,
what about Jake Myers, And there's nobody if you said
two fifty and you've got two fifty from him this year.
That's a huge win. You're like two fifty and and
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you know you're thinking, well, memoir two thirty two to
twenty seven, Well, maybe this is the year it does continue.
Maybe this is Jake Myers is closer to two seventy
five than he is two twenty five as a hitter.
Sometimes a little confidence, a little shift your paradigm, a
little belief, and you go, now, I'm to jumping out
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in front of this and saying seventy games or so
in thirty sixty seven games in that this Sue is.
But I can tell you this, aren't you glad? This
is who he's been considering the circumstances. He's kind of
come through this year in a big way offensively when
they've needed it. Now, imagine what the bonus it'll be
when everybody's healthy and he's hitting eight, seventh, eighth, ninth,
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and he's sitting two ninety seven and playing good defensive
center field, and you have that luxury. A two ninety
seven hitter doesn't hit in your eight hole normally. Okay,
So that'd be a nice problem. I mean, I would
love the shock of the season, say can you believe it?
Jake hit two eighty eight this year, and who's to
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say that this doesn't continue this year. I don't know,
but I know this getting healthy and having him at
the back of the lineup where he's going to be
regardless would be a good problem to have.
Speaker 7 (40:55):
Absolutely it would be. I mean, you've been looking at
links in this lineup for some time. I mean even
you know, going back to the twenty nineteen season. I mean,
you see the graphic all the time people share it
of Oh man, I remember this lineup. That was a
fun lineup, and you've been yearning to be able to
have that type of production one through nine, and at
least the Astros seem like they can give themselves every
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opportunity to reach that point. If there are things being
said about a certain team and you're listening to one
group of people, might not suggest you listen to this
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The NFL Insider going to join us to recap Texans
mini camp and also Chris Gordy going to join us
for his Thursday visit here on the show, Stros win
last night, tend to over the White Sox says they'll
go for the rubber game of the series later on
this evening. Texans done with many camp as I mentioned,
and the Pacers now up to one on the Thunder
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after taking Game three last night in Indianapolis again seven
one three two one two five seven ninety is the
number to get in Sean. It does seem like and
a couple of days ago, I mean, with the news
of John Boy being a partner now with Major League Baseball,
that fired up a little bit of shades of twenty twenty.
Of of course, the astros cheating scandal, the punishment, all
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of those things in the aftermath.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Of it all.
Speaker 7 (45:27):
But the booze still happen. All of those things still happen.
But one thing that I feel like I've noticed that
has kind of continued to wane over the last few years,
where it's now it's an afterthought. The players don't care
about it anymore. The players have completely moved on. And
even at the time, you had some players saying, hey,
what are we doing here? They weren't the only ones
(45:47):
doing it, and we're going to escapegoat these guys and
make them into you know, they were just running this,
you know, just completely malicious scheme that nobody else possibly
thought of. The narrative was out there. But you also
had a lot of players who are like, give me
a break.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Yeah, you're going to get some self righteous players that
are still I will not do this. I don't It's
like a hall of Fame voter that knows that that
person didn't like alto Vy, didn't partake, they still won't
vote for him the Hall of Fame because well, this
is just who I am.
Speaker 9 (46:19):
He was there.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
That's the same thing here, I mean the self righteous
part of how dare them? Yet? The reason why players
forgive they're around the players. They get it. Everybody's looking
for an advantage. But when I say it, which what
do you mean? Shod everybody's trying to cheat out, But
everybody's looking for an advantage is those guys know stuff
like this, trying to steal signs, trying to it goes
(46:41):
on all the time, and they know that they weren't
the only one doing it. The way they went about
it was different, but everybody's doing a different players, and
you get to a point where it's you know, you'll
always have the one that looks at your sideways like, yeah,
you want you stole my world series? Those are few
and far between. Players are around players all the time.
They get it, and they also understand that the players
(47:05):
what goes on in the clubhouse and the dugouts when
you're talking and how to get an advantage, Well, man,
you know the sign's good when you staying on flash them.
So I know, regardless they love this whatever it is
that we've seen from nineteen seventy to now, players get it.
They're always going to be the one who says, well,
I don't live like that. I would never do that.
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I would never take an advantage. And they're going to
give you a hard time. But still you're exactly right.
The time doesn't heal everything, but it sure kind of
fogs up a few things when it comes to this.
And players know because they're around it every day, and
they know that not only were the Astros not the
only ones doing it, they just did it a little
bit different. And how about this John Boy guy? All
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of a sudden goes from I've never even heard of him,
which is fine, I guess that's life to pointing out
banging on a trash can. And now the guy is
in cahoots and a partner with Major League Baseball again,
I mean a partner with Major League Baseball. So that's
(48:10):
how it started. And here we are, Squeaky Wheel got
the oil. So there you go.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
Well, I mean, I'm not so bothered by it, and
what's sticking the cross?
Speaker 1 (48:18):
I'm not bothered by it at all. But you know
what I mean. The thing I'm bothered by is they
didn't look in there. You know how long it took
with the Yankee situation. Well, I'm not bothered by his success.
I don't know the guy. I don't pay much attention
to it. Like I said when it first came out,
when they said that, John Boy pointed, I didn't know
who was. I don't think anybody did because it was
just kind of just throwing out videos and pointing stuff out. Listen,
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I give anybody credit for the grind. I'm just saying.
Think about how my point was. Think about his path.
He went from you not knowing to to you know
to the next thing. You know, he's got a contract
in Major League Baseball and him are in partnership, and
this went from the his biggest move was what the
trash can stuff? Was it not? Wasn't that his biggest
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needle mover at first?
Speaker 7 (49:03):
His biggest needle mover in the one that sticks with
Astros fans is that he perpetuated the buzzer line.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
That's why what yeah? But also that that it saw
all that out the the the the stuff with the Astros.
He kind of started that, correct, I mean, maybe somebody
that he was one of the flag bears he advanced.
He advanced it, that's for sure. So point in it. Listen,
you may not like I don't know anything about him.
People here may not like him because of that, but
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I'll give anybody credit with the grind because major League
he's got a partnership with Major League Baseball. They in
the bad partnership to have. So, like I said, I
don't pay much attention to the to to. I don't know.
I mean, I see him on social media, but I
don't know his entire background or where he comes from
or how why he started this. But it's worked out
(49:55):
for him career wise. But they're probably always going to
be some disdain with with the fans and Astros fans
or fans across baseball that may think that you know,
what he's doing is you know, was what he did
was wrong, or that they didn't like it because it
affected their team. But I ain't mad at anybody for
the grind there on. But I don't know enough about
the guy other than that those incidents. I don't know
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how I don't know how much he knows about baseball
because I don't pay attention to him, but good on
him if he got a partnership. I respect the grind,
but it was a major It was obviously a dark
time in Astro's history. Obviously.
Speaker 7 (50:30):
Well, where I'm going with this too is that we
all the time see random player surveys, anonymous surveys. I mean,
you know, you do the top one hundred in the
NFL every single year, Hey, who's your top ten? And
they build it off of that. Well, the Athletic just
did one with Major League Baseball players and it was
of many different things, which organization has a good reputation
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amongst the players, in which one a bad one. Here's
where I say that it doesn't matter to the players anymore,
because we'll start with bad. One hundred and fifteen respondents
to the survey that was sent out by the Athletic.
Only two of the one hundred and fifteen said that
the Astros have a bad reputation. The good eleven out
of one hundred and twenty six said that the Astros
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have a good reputation as an organization.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
So Sean, yet again, I've said it.
Speaker 7 (51:21):
Listening to the players, this thing is all the way done,
It's all the fans now that continue to beat this drum,
of course, and they.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
Will continue to because it's convenient. Hell, fans that are
beat and now aren't real sure what they're beat, why
they're beat, and why they're booing no pun intended, the
beating of a drum or a trash can, so they
don't know. Yes, players, it's become a eye rolling afterthought,
the question is will it be when people are voted
for the Hall of Fame and how? And you know what,
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if it was that big a deal, organizations wouldn't have
picked up anybody, if they were that self rightous, wouldn't
picked up anybody that was through these things, whether it's
bets from Boston, whether it's Springer to Toronto, whether it's
you know, Carlos Korea in Minnesota. Listen, players, players understand
a little bit different, whether it's right or wrong. Players
look at things a little different. They do in every sport,
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and the fraternity is usually bigger, even though there's some
who make whole bitterness against it. I think the Astros
are a franchise that people that people do respect and
think has a good reputation. Even though even though this
incident was a big one and it costs them dearly.
I think most players understand that. Again, it goes back to, well,
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why are we so hard on them? We're not hard
on other teams that were doing the same thing, just
a different way. It's just the way they went about it.
They skin the cat different. Most players understand that. And
that's why now and you ask four years from now,
you ask the question, the statistics will eaven be more favorable.
As long as the Astros continue to win and Jim
Crane's their owner, they will continue to have favorable responses
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to players. People want to play there now, Wow, And
they do. They just want to play for them. They
just do no.
Speaker 7 (53:00):
I mean, and it's to the point you brought up,
I mean about the changing faces that you've had and
you still continue to do what you're doing. I Mean,
the term the Astros are inevitable is there because I mean,
they've proven it of being the team that when it's
all said and done, they're going to win the AOS.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
They're in the lead right now.
Speaker 7 (53:20):
But I mean, I think that's what kind of surprised
me a little bit, of not having a better reputation
of I mean, that's what you hear about all throughout
the league.
Speaker 4 (53:27):
How do these guys continue to do this?
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Who's been a more consistent team the last eight or
nine years? I mean, the Dodgers have won a lot
of have been to a lot of postseasons. Who's been
a more consistent division winning alcs that when the season
starts they're always in contition. Who's been more consistent than
the ro Astros over the last eight years?
Speaker 7 (53:49):
I mean the closest one I could say would be
the Dodgers. I mean, you know the Braves, but I
mean they just like the Dodgers, have had their early
postseason hiccups. I mean, and now the Astros did last year,
but before that, no.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
I think about it, right, you have to think about
the others. If somebody, if you're sitting in New York
and they say, even if you don't like them, say
give me the last almost the last decade, last eight
or nine years, who has been the most consistent team
in baseball? And if you're being honest, you'd be You're
gonna be hard pressed to put the Astros anything. If
they ain't first, they ain't third, Okay, so they're they're
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they're they're in that top three. And I can contend
that they've been as consistent as anybody, consistently good and
uh posting their stuff as good as anybody the last
eight or nine years.
Speaker 9 (54:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
They don't have four World Series championships, but they've been
in them, they've won them, and they consistently are at
the top of their division and a threat to win
a World Series. And they've been as good as anybody
within you know, inside this last decade, and.
Speaker 4 (54:47):
There's no pushback for me.
Speaker 7 (54:48):
One other quick one here, which manager, aside from your own,
would you most like to play for? Joe A spot
At did not make the list, but two did vote
for Dusty Baker, who, of course is not managing right now.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
I get that, and I understand why players would want
to old school player gets it. Lets those guys kind
of police themselves, I get it. I would imagine Bochi's
names on there, without question. I would imagine that Tito's
name somehow fines its way in there, do it? Are they?
I didn't look at the list, so for me, those
would be my top two Bochi and Tito. And maybe
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I'm biased because I am friends and know both of
them and they've spent time with both of them. But
the reason I say that, But they're also very good
at what they do, and they veterans and young guys alike,
they know how to cross that line of they're not
just old school or new school, and those would be
my two. But Joe's only been doing it two years,
asked the question in five years, and that may change.
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And Pier's the guys here love playing for Joe, But
I get why people would want to play for Boci
and Francona veterans who've seen the old school in the
new school, who kind of allow players to police themselves
but when necessary step in and everybody know who's the
boss is without them having to tell you. And both humble,
gracious guys who weren't superstars in their sport but have
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been superstar managers. Both great. That's a good list to
have at one and two.
Speaker 7 (56:07):
And Joe also was not on the aside from your
own would you not want to play for? So Joe
still earning his stripes in the game amongst the players,
at least the ones that were asked by the Athletic.
All right, we'll get into a little bit of an
interesting topic here, because a dispensary wants your help to
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Now back to Sean Salisbury.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?
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leader at the US Open at Oakmont. All right, Sean, Bigfoot,
So while you were away, I believe it was when
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Ari Alexander was in here. We were talking about the
existence of Bigfoot, and there was a father and son
I believe they were in Colorado, and it was the
traditional stories you hear about Bigfoot. Heard something rustling in
the bushes, then a tree shook, and then we saw
this hairy figure walk past does and we took off
running whatever it might be. And I mean, we've had
(01:00:04):
reports of Bigfoot being in the southeast. I mean it
sounds like there are many that are whatever a creature.
If Bigfoot does exist all throughout the country, and it's
just nobody's ever really been able to get anything other
than a grainy bit of footage of who they think
is Bigfoot. Well maybe that'll change because Unique Cannabis in Monroe,
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proof that you indeed have had a run in with Bigfoot.
KXII twelve TV up in Michigan reporting on a story
that has a sign out in front of Unique Cannabis
that says, bring photo proof a Bigfoot for a free
(01:00:48):
pre roll. Now, dude, if you have photo proof and
it's actually decent enough to see that you've caught one
of the creatures that we've been seemingly looking for for
over fifty years. Now, don't you think they need to
sweeten the pot a little bit? And the pun is
intended there.
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yeah, they should probably give you the whole dispensary. But
in truth, uh, that's not enough. If first of all,
you smoke too much of the good stuff, and you'll
see Bigfoot four thousand times okay, watching TV at the
grocery store, right, it'll you'll take a picture of a
(01:01:25):
five to eight dude walking down the street. You'll think
it's Bigfoot because you're stoned out of your gourd. But yeah,
if you actually have proof to go in there and
get pre roll, is that what you really what you
do is there'll be plenty of people that will pay
more than you know in the business, seven figures for
those photos for the law. It's like if lock nest
(01:01:49):
monster pops out, or all of a sudden we see
a four headed human. I mean, you get pictures of those.
There's a lot more to be offered then, so a dineback. Okay,
so yeah, but I can tell you this, if you
jump into the all that good stuff, you're gonna be
having more people now then maybe that's a really good
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plan of whether they're buying at the dispensary. They're going
out and taking pictures even though they don't and people
keep coming back into the dispensary because they're so stoned
and they say, I'm gonna just keep Maybe that's a
good marketing employee to get people to come in and
spend money. Obviously, but I'm not stopping there. There's got
to be a lot more. You might want to get
me half the farm that you're growing it on for
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your dispensary, even though I don't smoke it, but you
know what, we can find something to do with it
or the money that would cost that, because that ain't
enough if you've bigfoot. I mean, come on, man, I
understand a scavenger hunt, but for bigfoot enough, Yeah you
got you got to get far more than that. Dude,
they're about to see just how many You know when
people say, oh there's a reward if you see the
(01:02:56):
criminal driving down the street and the cops will get
eight billion call saying I just saw this, as like,
come on, that car, that's not the same car. That's
what you're about to face with this A bunch of
stone Bigfoot chasers for some pre roll. I mean, come on, now,
you do it. Just the pot's got to be far sweeter.
There's got to be like that, you know, that little
(01:03:17):
Leprechaun the movie The Leprechaun. There's got to be a
pot of gold somewhere if you if you pull that off,
it's worth a lot more than that I was gonna say.
Speaker 7 (01:03:24):
I mean, you know, don't they have like they keep
the product in glass jars. I mean, I figure, yes,
you got to give over one of those huge glass
yards of just be like, hey man, here you.
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Go, gallon, how about a fifty gallon drum? That would
help the people. But obviously the people who offered have
been hitting a little the gummy pack a few times themselves,
so you've got to sweepen that offer well.
Speaker 7 (01:03:46):
And I mean I saw this story aggregated on out Kick,
and Sean Joseph was the one who aggregated it, and
I love his next line right here. That's the sort
of thing that will get some motivated sownars taking to
the woods prepared to grab some evidence. So that's the
other thing, now, is you're gonna get a bunch of
people who you know, they they hit the bong and
then they're like.
Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Hey, man, let's go find it. Oh yeah, yeah, let's
go dude. So you're just gonna have a bunch of
stoners just walking around in some Michigan woods somewhere, not.
Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Afraid of anything and stoned out of their mind and
like enjoying the outdoors they're in search of. There you go. There,
there's your documentary how to look for Bigfoot while you're stoned,
and you're getting undervalued when you bring the picture back
of Bigfoot. So do you think Bigfoot exists? Dan?
Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Oh, one hundred percent.
Speaker 9 (01:04:32):
I do.
Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
I just do.
Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
I want to believe it. I want to believe it.
Speaker 7 (01:04:37):
And it's also too I mean where you've had stories
of its existence in numerous places, and in the northwestern
part of the world or the US, I mean the
in the southwest of Colorado, as I mentioned. I know
that I told this when we were talking about Bigfoot
last week, that I used to drive through this small
North Carolina town going to a casino there in western
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North Carolina, and they had a whole museum, a shop,
and signs that were more than likely joking but still
saying be on the lookout for Bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
You think Bigfoot's East coast or West coast?
Speaker 7 (01:05:10):
Guy, I mean, I think it's like us. You know,
there's there's there's a few that are scattered.
Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
You think, do you think there's more than one?
Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
Absolutely? I think there's more than one.
Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
If you think there's a tribe of a tribe of them,
I think.
Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
That probably they have to scavenge on their own, because
I mean, maybe that's why there's so few of them now,
is that there was a fight for food, so you
know now you have to go about to you know,
trying to find it on your That's that's exactly what
it is. And only only the strong survived.
Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
So is it more like in the Adirondacks or more
in Wyoming?
Speaker 9 (01:05:44):
Where?
Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Where? Where are you going to find more of them?
Are they more East coast rap? West coast rap?
Speaker 9 (01:05:48):
Say?
Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
Probably more of the apple Achians.
Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
I'm thinking I'm thinking more West coast. And you know,
you might find them in the word the grand Eons, right,
you might find them in the Wasatch Mountains. You might
find I'm thinking more Wyoming, Montana, Colorado. Every now and
then you find one rolling through New Mexico. Maybe somebody,
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maybe maybe one decided they like Sedona, I'm thinking, and
then yes, you're right, you're the Smoky Mountains, the Appalachians.
I can understand that as well. But I'm gonna lean
even though they're, like I'm assuming, big and furry. If
they do exist, they've got a good coat, can handle winners,
even though the winters on the West Coast and Wyoming
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and Montana are brutal. But the other months they get
a little thought out, a little quicker. I'm going to
say they are more western part of the United States
as opposed to the eastern and northeast. And you know
what up there in the Minnesota, you know, the Boundary
Waters area not a bad place as well, Wisconsin. So
you might have them spread out. You might have them
spread out depending on how many are left and how
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many are you know, quite frankly, how many of them
are getting another one pregnant, so we could have more.
So they're not extinct, you know what I'm saying. Right,
They're still They're still banging, aren't they.
Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
You have to think so if there's multiples that are
in the same area, yeah, I mean, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
They men's tea clinic. They probably went in there and
got their testosterone, right so they could have more. Baby,
that's the way keeps. That's the way they keep it going.
Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Right now, you got to keep you got to keep
revn one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Damn drives. One thing I have.
Speaker 7 (01:07:29):
Noticed though, to close this out, I've never noticed the
Canadians speaking up about Oh I've seen it, it's there.
I mean, they got the Northern Lights and all of that,
But you never hear the Canucks really speaking up about Oh,
we've seen them in these you know woods near Vancouver.
Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Maybe they're trying to ballhog them. They don't want the recipe,
you know, they got them and could be ballhogging them.
Could be I mean, got to get a little pass
for it, you know. Who knows, yea, who knows. But
I would imagine a couple two across the borders probably
imagine they got a couple of their own. Yeah, how
they speak? Do they speak like Canadians? Maybe a little
bit of Canadian accent I'm talking about it.
Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Maybe I mean that it could be.
Speaker 7 (01:08:06):
I mean, look, you know, if you're up in the Midwest,
like you mentioned Wisconsin, Minnesota, I mean you kind of
already talk like a Canadian already as.
Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
You are, right Dakota's Yeah, exactly, that's exactly right. So Fargo,
you got to be one in Fargo, probably nearby, probably nearby.
I actually do believe you think that they exist?
Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Oh I want I want to believe.
Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Yeah, it's kind of like claws, right, you want to
believe claw. I still believe Santa exists?
Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
Oh yeah, no, he does so.
Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
I so I would imagine the bigfoot is then, but
everybody's big foot? Is it like a cat? I don't
think cats know their names. I think you just call
every cat kitty here, kitty, kitty, kitty, and they all come.
So I don't I don't really think cats, you know,
like your dog. You call your dog your dog, we
call cat. I think they look at you with attitude.
You can call it kitty, kitty, kitty, and they all
have the same name. What about we call them all bigfoot? Yeah? Well,
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I mean we don't put enough respect on him to
give them their own name.
Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
You bring up a good point.
Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
There's another big foot, there's another big foot?
Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
Respect on their Well, I mean it's it's what if
they do talk?
Speaker 7 (01:09:03):
So, then like if if you are able to have
some sort of communication with them, do you be like
so do I call you a big or foot or
both of them together?
Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Like, what what do you tell you? That could get
a little weird. They might get a little nick name,
they could they could get at I mean, it's so
simple though. Even a caveman can figure that out. That's true.
That is true.
Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
No, no, and that's the commercials have told us that.
We've figured that out.
Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
As opinion, some of the best commercials of all times.
Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
I mean it's highly underrated when they first started, right, and.
Speaker 7 (01:09:36):
Even so much that they started to bring it back.
If you notice too, so you know when you got
something good, stay with it. All right, let's get into
a little bit of the Texans as the Texans made
a move earlier this week. But had anybody checked with
the guy that might be taking playing time away from
the other guy?
Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
We'll do that right here.
Speaker 7 (01:09:54):
It is Sean Salisbury show Sports Talk seven ninety the
seven o'clock hour, seven ninety listener line is presented by
one eight hundred car Cash. We've been talking about the
Nick Chubbs signing. We've been a huge fan of it,
and you wonder with the signing, how would Joe Mixon
feel about it?
Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Now?
Speaker 7 (01:10:12):
I had not seen said speculation. But I saw this
piece of audio as part of a Texans Twitter account
called Houston Stressens, and they had thrown out that there
was speculation that it had Irket mix in a little bit,
which I had not heard or seen. I don't think
any of us had seen or heard such a thing.
But Mixing was on the green Light podcast with Chris
(01:10:35):
Long and he was asked about the Chubbs signing, and
let's just say, if there was any of that speculation, well,
now it's been put to bed.
Speaker 10 (01:10:42):
There's going to be a major difference in our offense.
You know what I'm saying. I think that's something that
they've been missing. But Chubb, Chubb is the heart of
their team. And you know, I'm just thankful that my
man is back doing with he you know what he
always wanted to do. Yeah, I just love that about
him and I'm definitely one of his biggest supporters in
rooting for him.
Speaker 9 (01:11:03):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
So Joe Mixon a sign of the Texans bringing chubble board.
Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
So it's gonna make Joe better too. I mean, good
comp one is a great pros that I've been around.
Love competition. I'm not saying his jobs in danger. But
when you bring somebody in, it's human nature, especially a
good player, to say, oh, they think the room needs
to be upgraded. And it does. It's not just Joe Mixon.
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I've told you how much I think Joe Mixon. I
still think Joe Mixon is underrated and the whole scheme
of things, and I think he can even add another
element to the offense. So love him, but it does.
Good players love this stuff. Now, whether they have a
they don't like it. Nobody likes to be a veteran,
you know. I remember when Elway was a starting quarterback
in Denver and they drafted Tommy Maddox after like his
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sophomore year at UCLA in the first round, in the
first round. Or how Aaron Rodgers felt when Jordan Love,
even though you're a veteran, you're headed to the Hall
of Fame. I haven't shared this story. I had an
offensive lineman in San Francisco who started for the forty
nine ers in two or three of their Super Bowl runs.
It might have been three of them, and great guy,
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and I'll leave his name out, but we were sitting
at dinner, he and I and we were talking with
Sean do you do you really think that the only
reason Joe Montana came back quickly is because modern medicine
and because he's just a great player and wanted to
be back on the field. That's a big part of it. Well,
remember when Montana had back problems and guess who his
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backup was. It was Steve Young. And Steve Young played
great football and he's in the Hall of Fame too.
And Key, my friend had said, was talking about, you know,
the Steve and Joe situation. It wasn't a knock on
or a compliment on the other. It was just what
competition will do for you. And the fact that Steve
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Young was in the shadow waiting for an opportunity, and
when he did play played well. Said don't think for
a second that that didn't hurry up and speed up
the rehab. And I thought about it that even Joe Montana,
when I say insecurity, I mean and if I had
that insecurity of I'm a I'm Joe Montana, and I
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still the competition still moves you. Well, he comes back
and Joe's never lost the Super Bowl Game, He's MVP
every time he turn around. The guy's been It was
phenomenal great player, but even a guy like him and Elway,
the competition takes them to another level instead of shrinks them.
Joe Mixon, we know who the starting back is, but
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you're not bringing in a guy who's a hack. Nick
Chubb's a good football player and if he's healthy, he
was on the verge of being a great running back
in this league. He was a hell of a player.
So it helps the team. It makes Joe Mixon get
probably be able to have more production, possibly with less load.
It allows you to if Joe's banged up, for order
to go in there and play. So I think Mix
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is at the stage of security in his career. But
also you know knows what it does to enhance the
team and the goal for Joe, who doesn't have what's
got to be winning a championship and continuing to dominate
and get paid. But adding Nick Chubb, it doesn't take
away from Joe Mixon. It adds to him, and that's
what good ones realize. But it'll also bring out the
best in him. The good competitors like it, even though
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they won't tell you. They say competition is good and
it may bug them, but deep down they get it.
And they understand why the competition matters, and Joe Mixon
will be no different. This is a good get and
Joe Mixon knows this, and we may even see another
level of Joe Mixon after this.
Speaker 7 (01:14:39):
Here's hoping. Preservation and longevity. Those are two qualities that
NFL players want to have, because well, you want to
maximize as many years as you can get those huge paydays.
And Joe Mixon, as he is even further into his
Texans contract, trying to make sure he is able to
get another long term deal.
Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
In this league.
Speaker 7 (01:14:58):
All right, It's a group that Sean feels very very
passionate about and cares deeply for. Somebody has something to
say about them, and I want to see if Sean's
going to agree. We'll hear that right here. It is
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Let the celebration start, or Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
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Speaker 7 (01:15:23):
Sean, you are a proud USC trojan. You bleed, what
are the colors again? Cardinal and gold?
Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Is that is that?
Speaker 9 (01:15:30):
What it is?
Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
That's it? Okay, there you go, Cardinal and Gold.
Speaker 7 (01:15:33):
So you are a proud, proud SC trojan and needless
to say, it's been many years since we've looked at
USC's football program and we're able to say, yeah, they're
they're a competitor. Like I think we've had more hopes
than it actually reaching that expectation. I mean there were
at least for the second year of Caleb Williams. I
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guess there are people who thought, hey, maybe they could
be a playoff team. But really, ever, and it's the
mid to eight two thousands, SC football has kind of
been a little bit of an afterthought.
Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Is that accurate. I won't say afterthought, I'll say always
great offense, he didn't play much defense, so they have
afterthought would be you know, the sixty seventh or eightieth
best team in the country. But considering where you would
put SC normally, not a powerhouse right now. Absolutely they're
not a I mean powerhouse program. Obviously powerhouse team as
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we speak. No, you can't play finesse defense and be powerhouse.
But they'll always score with Lincoln Riley, So yes, it's different.
They're not in Georgia in Ohio State and LSU's class
right now, even though they should be.
Speaker 7 (01:16:41):
And another person agrees with you on that. Urban Meyer
on with Colin Cowherd talking about that exact thing, because
Cowherd brought up to the Vegas win total for SC
this year was seven and a half, and it was
a chance for Urban Meyer to kind of put the
target on Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 11 (01:17:00):
In Ohio State, Alabama, Texas, and you know, Florida. I
just I've always looked at USC as one of the
top five jobs in America. So I've got a lot
of respect for Lincoln Rilly and I never I promised
myself I would never call for jobs because I'm not
going to do that. However, when seven eight wins is
accepted USC, that's when you you know, I don't know,
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I don't agree with that. I think you take a
five hour you take a five hour net and drop
it on USC, and you see the best players in
the country. So I think this is the year the recruiting.
Here's a question about USC. They have the number one
recruiting class in the country right now. Should they have
that every year? I mean, USC is USC, and I
think they're gonna have a great year, and I think
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we're not after this conversation, But eight and five, go
eight and five at Ohio State and see where it happens, and.
Speaker 7 (01:17:48):
To localize it a little bit, Sean, I mean we
were saying the same thing until the last couple of
years of Steve Sarkisi and at Texas, where it was
what's going on over there? They've got all the resources
they've they've they've got the recruiting base to be able
to be successful and to be able to be a
playoff team. Four teams, twelve teams, doesn't matter. It's just
not happening over there. So I understand what he's saying,
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and I think he's one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
He's one. He's spot on. There's nothing he said that's
not correct. It is one of the five best jobs
because they can pay. It's a private school, they've got
a lot of money. They should have as good ANIL
program as there is on the planet collective because of
all the money they do have. I've been and this
is one thing about it is that people can never
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accuse me of accuse me a lot of things, of
never being a homer from my team. I root for them,
but I'm probably even more critical of them as I
would be our crosstown rival, simply because my expectations for
USC football is different. Higher and or Coach Meyer's right.
They should be a top five program every year. They
should be at the top. They should never be below
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three or four recruiting every year. That you know, sometimes
one year gets away from me and somebody jumps up
Georgia or LSU. But your recruiting base is ridiculous. And
it's not just in and around Los Angeles. Schools like Alabama,
Southern cal LSU can go into Texas, University of Texas
can go into California that are they can recruit nationally.
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There are certain schools that are really good that aren't
gonna they aren't going to get the national five star recruit.
But Lincoln Riley can go get the five the best
receiver in Florida, as can Steve Sarkisi in So Texas,
Southern Cal, Alabama, Ohio State and Michigan. I mean, they're yes.
When they're standing there, say what's five best jobs? SC's
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one of them. Now when people say, well it isn't now,
well it isn't now because you're looking at the success
of the program. It is when you look at the money,
the recruiting base, where they got the kid, they mean, everything,
everything about it is. They should be better. The Urbans
coach Meyer's one hundred percent correct. And shouldn't they be
there every year? Yes? And I can assure you eight
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wins should it's not It's not acceptable for alumni. And
it doesn't matter how good offense or how good Lincoln Riley,
all that looks. You don't make the playoff in the
next two years, they will find a new coach. I'm
just telling you they will. Even though offensive grew, they
got to win, and win doesn't mean just get in.
Win means you have a chance to do what Texas did.
Let me be playing for the damn thing. They will.
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Their alumni is powerful. They got a lot of money.
So eight and five, listen, you can't keep the job there,
and especially if in those that eight and five Ryan
Day's job was on the line. This year, couldn't beat
Harbaugh Michigan. They couldn't bet Michigan, and they all that
talent couldn't do it. He went and went and got one.
And Ryan Day's a good football coach. But think about this,
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there was a time during to see people were calling
for his job because he couldn't and sc if you
don't beat UCLA or Notre Dame, your rivals, and those
were the two Notre Dame and UCLA. If you go
eight and five or nine five, if you go win
ten games, but your losses two of them are to
Notre Dame. In UCLA, you're getting replaced three years down
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the road. You can't lose to Ohio State. If you're
in Michigan regularly, you will not keep the job. You
can't do that at SC either. Urban Myers one hundred
percent correct. You have got to you eight wins, nine wins,
ten wins is barely enough. Well, Sean, that's high expectations. Well,
it's the same expectations there as it is now at Georgia,
at Alabama, at LSU, at Southern cal, at Michigan, Ohio State,
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at Texas. There's eight ten programs and eight's not good enough.
And if they go eight wins two years in a
row or seven and a half wins two years row,
Lincoln Riley will not be the coach three years from now,
let alone two years from now. If this continues. He's
a good coach, But you gotta win at SC, just
like you do at Ohio State.
Speaker 7 (01:21:41):
And I think they run into a little bit of
what Miami has for some time. I remember talking with
Mark Rich a few years ago and he straight up
told me, he goes, it's hard, you know, to be
able to sell quote unquote the you to these kids
because it doesn't resonate with them, like Ray Lewis and
all those guys, they weren't even born yet.
Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
When these guys are play, they are right with Bush
and Liner and guys like that. Right, they don't know
who Brett Parrman is and he was a hell of
a player. Some may not even know about who Michael
Irvin is. He's nuts, but it's true. I go, yeah,
I think I Warren Sapp think about those rosters, and
they don't. There's plenty that have no idea that Matt
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Lioner was a quarterback, that Marcus Allen in the eighties
was one of the highest trophy. They don't. They don't
pay attention to the history of a lot of them.
And it's the same thing and recent history. So he's
one hundred percent correct. But you get those programs, you
gotta win. Eight wins is never enough. That's just you
just become a guy, and guys just being a guy
or just being getting by is not good enough. That
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the top ten programs are the top five, and Lincoln
Riley will not keep that job if they don't win
ten games that are in contention and make the playoffs.
You can't keep those jobs losing to good teams, and
he won't. I hope he does, because he's a good coach.
Speaker 7 (01:22:55):
Expectations they either get you fired or it's something to
work towards. And that's something that a lot of programs
are looking forward to this fall. All right, let's get
back into the Astros conversation here to fire up the
third hour of the show, because we finally got what
we wanted last night. We'll discuss it. It is Sean
Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 7 (01:23:58):
Texan's done with many training camp coming up in about
a month, we're gonna check him with our good buddy
Aaron Wilson here in a little over twenty minutes, as
he will recap the end of Mini camp, but also
to get us set up for what could possibly be
ahead for the Texans leading up to said camp and
the NBA Finals. Pacers up to one now on the
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Thunder in the series. They take Game three last night
in Indianapolis. Real quick here too. I'm sure a lot
of you have noticed driving around on your way to
work this morning, pretty soggy out there, so of course
every single break we've got traffic weather for you to
be able to hopefully get you to work safely. So
stay tuned here and please be safe out there on
the roadways this morning. But Sean Christian Walker the Astros
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last night they break out the lumber and they break
it out in a massive way. He's able to go
three for four, he knocks in four runs and the
Astros is a team fifteen hits en route to their
ten to two win.
Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Huge last night, he was big, You've been begging for it,
You've been asking for it and wanted one of those
where it was like okay, we're onto something. Then you
got it. A lot of guys got into the act
last night, and I think the thing that got it
the two things that stuck out the most from Gusto
on the mound pitching like he did one walk, seven
strikeouts and get into the sixth, and then the way
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that Christian Walker, well that the ball actually left the ballpark,
but was also favored him last night to his three hits,
So hit it hard and the data Brown had mentioned
he's been hitting it hard and been a little unlucky,
Well he was lucky and good yesterday. A blooper and
a couple of strong hits yesterday. And that's the Christian
Walker that sits in the middle of your lineup. Maybe,
just maybe last night is the springboard we'll see, but
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sustaining it's going to be the key. And if the
middle of the lineup hits, everything looks sexy. He is sexy,
and they'll play better and the feelings are better when
you do. But once again, a strong pitching performance and
the bullpen did their job well.
Speaker 7 (01:25:58):
I mean the feeling is also from the middle of
the order, because I mean that seemingly has been the
real sticking point for this team so far this year.
I mean you've had at times an inconsistent Jose al Tuve.
He gets a couple of hits last night. Mentioned it
earlier that he reaches career hit twenty three hundred for him,
so it's great to see that out of him.
Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Janar Diaz.
Speaker 7 (01:26:20):
I mean another guy that has this season probably been
overshadowed with his struggles with how bad that Walker has
been at times with his But he gets a couple
of hits last night, in a couple of times hits
the ball over one hundred and ten miles an hour,
so I mean he's at least putting good swings on
it too.
Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Your team's always going to be judged by the middle
of your lineup. Pitching in a million lineup, you're not
judging your team by the by your eight nine hitter.
You want them, they're the bonus. Like oh okay, guys,
sitting two eighty five or two ninety seven or three
h three is my eight or nine here? You're like,
oh man, everything must be. We're pretty good. But think
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of it, like I said, we said earlier, thirty eight
to thirty or thirty seven to thirty, you're sitting there,
is that right? Thirty seven and thirty right now, Dan,
am I right? Correct? Yeah, you're you're just under seventy
games if I this team is seven games above five
hundred and in first place, and where we're bummed because why,
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it's not kind of Jose has been inconsistent. He's got
his in bunches and struggled in bunches this year, but
we know who he is. But the walker, Yainer Diaz,
Jordan Alvarez for injuries and or production in the middle
of your life, it's not kind of that that is
the reason why people are bumped that that is the reason.
I mean we know al too ay, Like I said
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in bunches, Payne has played really good baseball. Paratus has
played consistent baseball and hit the ball out of the ballpark.
I mean you start to look at send some of
the pitching we know with the bullpen. Jake Myers has
been an incredible surprise. Some of these young players, and
the melt and the cam Smiths and the Dezenzos have
shown flashes of brilliance and consistency in certain areas, and
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camp Smith's starting to find his way. Yeah, we're still bummed.
Seven games above five hundred, Well, now flip it eight
and nine struggle. Maybe you're not getting you know, even
though you pain isn't so important. But let's just say
the three four and five, Jordon and Walker and Yiner.
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If that was your three four and five, which they
were going to be three four, five and six, somewhere
in there of those three guys were going to be
in those four slots. Okay, So let's say they start
doing they rate last Night indication and then Jordon's back
and being Jordon, but some of the other guys in
the back end lineup are struggling. Do you think our
woes are going to be as big and strong and loud.
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Absolutely not. Even though the production may e're like man,
the production in the middle lineup, we're they're still not
getting that clutch it. We may complain about it, but
you're far more secure and happy and feel great about
your team even if a pitcher was struggling a little. Oh, men,
are three four and five and in the middle of
our lineup, and you're gonna need them to get to
the world to do what you want to do. As
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Dana said yesterday, we are set up to win a
world series, not to go to win a World series.
A roster is put together to win a World Series.
It's just that some of that part of that roster
is not producing like a World Series team. And unfortunately
it's for the most part, as far as sustained consistency,
it's been in the middle of your lineup, and so
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it just heightens it when the middle of your It'd
be like if Fromber and Hunter Brown were struggling mightily,
but three four and five were pitching like Cy Young,
you know, we'd say, man, that's great, but what in
the hell is run? We'd be focused on what's going
wrong with our two aces at the top. It's the
same thing here. The periphery of the lineup's put pretty
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decent baseball man offensively pretty decent, and some have exceeded.
I mean pain is moving to the where he is
in the lineup and doing what he's doing. He is
elevated to a whole new level. And the Myers which
we've talked about, and some of these young players. So, yes,
when the middle of your lineup struggles, it feels like
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your whole team is miserable, and it's not the case.
There's seven games over five hundred and in first place.
So and if the opposite is true. We wouldn't be
feeling the struggle as much if three, four, and five
were playing like all stars and healthy and so that's
that's where you are. The key is they're finding ways
to win, even though it's not pretty and it's not
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by it's not like last night was pretty and it
was dominant. But you're getting good pitching in great bullpen.
Your frontline starters are playing well. The periphery of your
lineup is hitting, meaning the edges alls you need. And
I know it sounds so simple. From my vantage point,
is jord On to get healthy and those big boppers,
the Walker Yiner, Jordan Trio, if they get hitting. Who
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knows what the record is going to end up, but
I can tell you this, the comfort level for fan
base and media will be different. The optics will be different.
Even though the result may and wins and losses. Maybe
there's still only seven games or seven games about five hundred.
If if they flip and one's hot, three of those
guys are hot, the periphery isn't. It's just optics for us,
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and it feels better when your stars are When the
boppers are hitting the ball like they're supposed to, it
just does, and hell, I'll take it considering the lack
of consistent production from your big hitters, your home run hitters,
and even al Tuove. Now that's four guys. The inconsistent
part of it. Imagine that and your seven games, all
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the five hundred you have taken this six ways the
Sunday and twice on Sunday. If I have told you
this at the beginning of the year, that they were
going to be here and this is what it was
going to look like, you're damn right. But it will
feel different when those three get rolled, and regardless of
the other six.
Speaker 7 (01:31:55):
Guys in the lineup, and it's just it was the
prolonged struggles. I think what probably sticking with people me
included where it's just like, gosh, like how is it
that all of you at once are doing this? Like
how is it that all of you are the suit
store and my cousin Vinnie, you all have the flu
and we're having to go to court wearing tuxedos.
Speaker 4 (01:32:14):
That's what it pretty much was.
Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
I mean, it add that feeling to it, right and
you know what's gonna be a great day, And the
other side of it is at some point in time
all three are gonna mash. Don't know when or for
how long, but it will happen. It's too long a
season for it not to have it. And then we're
gonna say, man, this is glorious. Why then't The question
will be not that they're doing it? Why did it
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take so long? That that's just how we think, right,
But I can tell you this, and if you're Joe
Aspata and Dana Brown in the organization, you're kind of
standing on your toest thinking, Okay, the ball is my feet.
I know this is gonna happen. When Jordan gets back
and things get rolling, then what's this roster look like?
As long as pitching's healthy and holds up or gets healthier.
But those guys at the front and the bullpen does
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what they're doing right now. I mean, can you imagine
being just stay alive, just stay in it, and you're
thirty seven and twenty and that what a nice gig. Hey,
you're thirty seven to twenty. We're just asking you to
stay in it until everybody's healthy and gets hot. The
pretty good gig to be in first place when your
best players. How many teams in the league are in
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first place? Set in first place, and their best players
have played. When I say your best players, your home
run hitters, in the middle of your lineup has struggled
all year long, I can't think. I can't think of anything,
and you can't you won't. And you know what, when
your Baltimore Oil's lineup struggles, guess what. They fire their
manager and you're what, twenty games under five hundred or
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whatever it is. You're like, what this is the Baltimore
Oils and all those young, great players. But think about that.
There's no team in Major League Baseball who, injury wise,
are production wise the middle of their lineup. They're big
home run hitters, boppers. There's seven games over five hundred
or more without those guys being consistent, productive, in quite
frankly in some cases in Christian Walker and jord On
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Alvarez shockingly inconsistent and shockingly unproductive this year or injured.
So there's nobody that can boast that right now, and
they're not boasting about it. But and there's seven games
over five hundred. It's gonna look really nice when those
guys you go, because they will at some point.
Speaker 7 (01:34:21):
All Right, we'll continue the Astros conversation here as We'll
have also Chris Gordy coming up top of the next hour.
We're gonna get into the Texans at the bottom of
this hour with Aaron Wilson, of course our Sports Talk
seven ninety Texans Insider. But coming out next this sports
if they go this route, would be making the absolute
right decision. We'll talk about it here. It is the
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Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Buckle up The Sean Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
It's gonna be a hell.
Speaker 7 (01:34:55):
As we've been talking, just a little bit of golf
sprinkled in in between the Astros and the Texans and
a little bit of college football. But a report out
there that the PGA Tour is going to have a
newly formed CEO role and that a clear favorite to
take over that role is the NFL Chief Media Officer,
Brian Rolap. And that's not necessarily the story of this,
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but the story is this is the PGA Tour looking
at their overall product and saying, we got to do something, man.
Speaker 4 (01:35:25):
Because here's an example.
Speaker 7 (01:35:27):
I'm watching the end of that tournament last week in
Canada and it's the playoff between Sam Burns and I
don't even remember who the other guy is there's so
many times this year where it's, oh, it's Sunday, all right,
well there's a tournament finishing up somewhere.
Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Ryan Fox or something.
Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
I think it was like pretty sure, Yeah, yeah, it
came down.
Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
He came from behind, and Sam had the lead and
had already posted his score, and then he birdied and
then beat him in extra holes.
Speaker 9 (01:35:53):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it was it was a nice win.
Speaker 7 (01:35:56):
But I mean, but the point that I'm getting to is,
I mean, there's so many times I watched these Yes,
you're right, it was Ryan Fox, but I don't even
know who Ryan Fox is. I barely know who Sam
Burns is. The Only thing I know about him is
that he played golf at LSU. Okay, fine, that's cool.
But I mean, how many times do we watch tournaments
this year and you see that and it's, oh, hey,
they're playing at the Byron Nelson. Oh, who's in the lead,
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Wyndham Clark, Hey can you go to home depot? Yeah,
no problem, Hey who's in the lead, Tiger? He's up
by two with about five holes to go, Hey can
you go to home depot?
Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
Not right now?
Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
Right then? You gave me I get it and having
the ROMs and the Brooks kept because every single week
on tour, you know, the live Golf I mean Cam
Smith and Joaquin Neeman has won like four times there.
If you had the fourteen or fifteen players from Live
there there, then you have the best in the world
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every week. And I know we don't have the best
in the world every week because some of those guys
aren't playing on it. I get that, But when have
you heard about golfer that aren't stars anyway? You're always
going to talk about there's the outlier, there's woods, there's woods,
but we've been through, I mean there's woods. Now you're
talking about generational purse, changing, sponsor changing youth golf, changing
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Major changing. Tiger walking on half on one leg and
a half when he was beat up so bad is
people will watch him. They'd rather watch him at times
go ten over but grind it out than they would
a guy, a young player you've never heard of win
a tournament. You're right, that's what we call him, being
a needle mover. But that is one dude that has
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completely changed the landscape of what we do in the
PGA Tour. The reason why you can make four million
bucks on a non major, but it's like a select
event for them. That guy, okay, so now put him aside. Okay, him, Michelson, mcelroys,
and they were competing against each other. You can name
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a handful more even during Woods time, maybe the top
ten players in the world during Tiger Woods. Once you
get by Phil Mickelson and him, you start to scramble.
Then all of a sudden, the rom group comes along,
and the Koepka group. Okay, even Brooks Koepka. And this
may be more value, but when he was winning five majors,
when he was on a PGA tour, Kepka wasn't a
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big enough star, which is crazy because the guy's a grinder.
He is a hell of a talent, but they didn't
publicize it. Kind of like hockey. You know a couple
hockey players. I mean I watched, I may know more,
but some people don't know the stars and hockey, they
don't promote him. But in truth, do you want new guys?
We always want new blood playing golf, and then when
they're winning, we don't want to watch. And I get
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it because it won't matter Tiger Woods. In this final
group at the Oakmont even though he's not going to
be competing at Oakmont, Tiger Woods at Oakmont, with a
win or a fifth place, he's finished, we'll bring more
attention than Scheffler winning it. And the reason Scheffler's dominant.
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Scheffler's playing as well as anybody on the planet, like
at times when Tiger was at his best. Scheffler's playing
like that. Here's the problem Scotty Scheffler. And I don't
mean this disrespectful to him. He's he's a nice guy.
He's he's kind of he's kind of When I say boring,
I don't mean but I'm sure he's fun in life.
But on the golf course he's got his grind. He'll
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smirk once in a while. He's got his grind. Tiger's
grind was different. He wasn't talking to you, it was
just it was just different. Scheffler's playing as well as
Woods did. The problem is, and he's so consistent. The
problem is there there there the ups and down that
there was just something, there's something missing from the star
power that just yet, Scotty Scheffler should be increasing personally.
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Guy's a great player and seems like a great guy.
So we could say Woods, but in truth, what when
have we had add outside your top fifteen? Unless you're
a guy like me or who watches the PGA Tour,
the John Deere Classic, I'll turn in on Sunday and
Saturday and watch it, but on the Major, I don't
want to miss any of it. So golf nerd so
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but in truth, outside of Woods and Nicholas back back
then when there's more person and Nicholas and Palmer and
Chee Chee Rodriguez and Lee Trevino and all that, and okay,
but since you've been born and watched golf, when have
you been interested in the tournament? Tiger wasn't in anyway
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in truth, if you're if you're just an average fan,
you're like golf when Tiger Woods went, but you're not
tuning in to watch Ryan and last week was the
hell of an event. Burns had Fox birdies and they go, okay,
So so you don't know and I know Sam Burns is,
I know who Ryan Fox is, I know who uh
uh you know Spawn is and I know who you
(01:40:55):
know who Brooks kept kids. And it's not a pat
on the back because I walk. But I'm gonna watch anyway.
But I am. I like you, I was more intrigued
with Tiger playing it Augusta than I was. When you know,
maybe the last time you've been that intrigued with Rory
winning it the way he won it was a trip.
Imagine if Tiger want it the way Rory did, and
he completed the Grand Slam and it was big, and
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it was publicized, and he missed a putt and had
to go back and make it. It was great theater,
phenomenal If that was Woods, that had been triple the theater.
And we all know that even though it was McElroy
and people love him too. You either love or hate Rory,
but that's what you need of the tour. And we
loved the Mickelson Woods perceived feud and all that stuff.
But the way Tiger handled I don't know, and it
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just it's different. But you said, you're exactly right. But
does a PGA tour really have a problem. The biggest
problem they have is not being able to come to
a decision and the persons, and I know they're controlling,
they don't give players the chance to go out and
do their thing and make money the way. That's why
LIV came about, and players left. They don't want PGA
tours all controlling and stuffy at times, doesn't want to
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let the players branch out and do the things they want.
I get that, but in truth, the number one thing
they need is all the players to be playing against
each other every week. But what's different now than Scotti?
Scheffler's not Tiger Woods when it comes to all the
way we talk about him, but his golf game is,
but you still don't watch it the same. So you
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told me Woods, well, who else did you know when
Tiger Woods outside the top ten? Did you know who
the seventy fifth player was? No, you knew who Tiger
Woods and a hand the best the top ten, and
you were watching more when Woods was playing just like that.
But he was a needle mover, and we don't have
that right now, even though we got guys who are
needle moving golf. Scotty Scheffler hits shots that no human
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beings should be hitting. Right. He does it every week,
all day long, all the time, overcomes a bad shot
with fifteen straight good ones. But there's something personality wise,
just the buzz that we don't get. And in truth,
even if all the live guys were over here and
you're Keopka and Ram and they play the majors, You're
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still not gonna know who JJ Spahn is if Woods
comes back, You just don't. So what is their problem?
Purses are bigger than ever. All the great ones aren't
playing against each other every week we need we're missing
the guy who you know, We've tried to force feed
guys to be that. But even if Kopka goes and
wins five more majors, are you still as intrigued with
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Keopka as you are with Woods? Probably not? Absolutely, not right,
So what is the depth of the thing. There's good golfers, dude,
one hundred and twenty fifth golfer. That's why we have
so many new young players winning every week. Every year
there's like ten new players won for the first time
and you never heard of them. But they're good players.
But there's some pizzazz missing the PGA Tour for whatever reason,
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stuff or whatever reason. It's not the lack of good players,
it's the lack of personalities and rivalries. We don't have them.
Who's Chefer's rivalry? McElroy, But they like each other and
Scotty is such a good guy. You kind of want
somebody to be the villain, and who is that? Well,
I mean, Heepko was kind of that. Deef Schambeau had
(01:44:09):
a little bit, but he's got turned into the nice guy.
De Chambau's as fan friendly as anybody in the world
when it comes to golf. So that's why. And so
the problem is personalities. The problem being great golf. These
dudes are throwing balls into places that you you're hitting
at three sixty, flipping pitching wedges on it, you're hitting
eight iron into a par five. I watched t Chambeau.
(01:44:32):
I know it's different for their clubs when you're hitting
eight iron two twenty to seventeen. Come on, dude, we're
talking a whole different stratosphere of player and equipment personalities.
It ain't about the golf, it's about the personalities.
Speaker 7 (01:44:47):
Yeah, you want the two to be able to marry
up the personality and also the talent. And some guys
have the talent. You just want a little bit more
from the other side. All right, Texan's done with Mini
camp and training camp is ahead.
Speaker 4 (01:44:59):
What is next for them?
Speaker 7 (01:45:00):
In the meantime, we'll talk that with our Sports Talks.
Seven ninety Texans insider Aaron Wilson joins the show right
here Sports Talk seven ninety. The seven ninety listener line
in the eight o'clock hour is presented by one eight
hundred car Cash Aaron Mini caamp As I just mentioned
in the rear view mirror, and we finally got on
Tuesday the answer to the question, we'll see J Stroud throw?
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So how nice is it to no longer have that
story to chew on?
Speaker 9 (01:45:28):
Yeah, it was just really a non story to me.
I reported first that it was just shoulder tightness he
had from weightlisting and throwing. So I understand why I
got lead out of proportion because of you know, there
was a lack of clarity from the team. So that's
why I did some digging in a couple of days
(01:45:52):
after the first non answer just reported that And yeah,
I just told us exactly correct from four different people. Trust.
So I don't think it really should have been speak deal.
It's all magnified because it's the NFL, it's CJ Stroud.
I totally get it by it becomes a something. It
takes on life Zone. But some of the conspiracy theorists
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and the fact that some people speculated that he'd had
shoulder surgery. It was just ridiculous. The guy was throwing.
And there's even videos from the team where they're having
these informal sessions weeks before, so it wouldn't stay quiet
at all if a dark quarterback like that has a
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procedure done, it's just really kind of defies logic. But yeah, no,
I think it's good for the team to see in
trouble because this is valuable time for him to build
that rapport. And we saw all down display like that
one handed sideline catch by Jayden Higgins and a nice
throw by CJ. And we saw him connecting and building
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his rapport again with Kate Stover, who I think has
had a good spring overall. I thought he looked great.
It's just really.
Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
Is.
Speaker 9 (01:47:03):
He explained it really well. He's been making some games.
I mean, look at his body. He looks different. He
looks at the trimmer, a little leaner, muscle tissue. He
wants to be able to run a little faster. I
think some of this is pride, and you know how
he looks his appearance too. I mean I think overall
all that stuff and yeah, I'm not worried about CJ.
It wasn't worried about CJ just so like all along,
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I think I was shooting jumpers at some event. It's
just I don't know why people are worried about this,
but people overreact to everything, and that's part of the
intense interest. And that's good because that means we have
an audience.
Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
Aaron. We all have our opinion on why Mini caamp
is or isn't important. I think it is on the
mental side and getting put in the library in so,
in your opinion or maybe even in the Texans opinion,
what's the most important thing you gathered from mandatory mini camp.
Speaker 9 (01:47:59):
I think it always will go back to the offensive line,
because that's the one thing that might keep this talented
team from going further. So the fact that they're starting
to bill a starting five with a few active competitions
within that group, I think that's significant. Just about fifteen
(01:48:21):
minutes a guy got a call about Jack Andrews, the
new projected starting center and kind of how that's going
so far. I'm hearing that they're very very happy about
Jake and what he's doing so far. So that's important.
I mean, I don't think there's anything really more significant
than the offensive line, and that's going to be a
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recurring storyline heading into training camp and won't know until
early the season did they do enough? They you know,
really done a good job with overhauling all of them
to coaching Nicole Popovich and the hand he has as
a Dantine Scarneki protege in fixing the office floorer.
Speaker 7 (01:49:04):
Aaron Wilson again seven ninety Insider covering the Texans in
the NFL, joining us here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
We've talked a lot about the addition of Nick Chubbs.
Saw him for a couple of days. But as this
running back group goes, what does that mean for Damian Pierce?
And when it's all said and done, when the fifty
three is determined, how many do you think they're gonna
roll with this year?
Speaker 9 (01:49:27):
Yeah, I'd say in terms of pure backs, you're gonna
have Damian a part of it. Unless there's some true
opportunity comes up across their dad square, it makes sense
to trade him and I expect him ready for training
camp so that what he's doing with right now isn't
that serious. They just sure being careful with him, But
(01:49:47):
I interiate, you know, look at the backs you know
what he marks, we'll be here. You're going to have
the starters, Joe Mixon and now Nick Chubb is the
primary backup, and you know Piers to the kick on.
He's a good kickoff returner. He adds some value in
that area and you can play running back when you
need him to. But obviously they've upgraded. Even with if
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Nick Chubb is like seventy five to eighty percent of
his old self a couple of years away from that
knee injury, you've added a lot. But the numbers we received,
do they keep the full back looks like they might.
And the way Kaylee builds out his offense. You know,
he coached James dabblin a long time. He was a
really good fullback of the Patriots. That was part of
(01:50:30):
his job. So yeah, he this guy thinks about the
full back and I could see all those guys making it.
Dario Gamale, I just don't. I mean, you might have
to cut some guys like British Brooks and to harj
Ordon that's his numbers, but I don't think you care
have to cut significant out of these bags. They've got room.
Speaker 1 (01:50:50):
I'm curious, Aaron, Well, not curious. It seems to me
that it's a loud sledgehammer to the head that adding
Nick Chubb and obviously with the change and coaching staff
on offensive line, that they're trying to send a message
that we are going to be more physical on offense.
The finesse will take care of itself. The physical Adam Hubb,
we are going to knock you around. That The physicality
(01:51:11):
is a big part of who they want to be.
Speaker 9 (01:51:15):
Exactly if you go back to how physical sometimes the
Rams and the Patriots are, where Nick Canley has that background,
they are trying to build it out in that style,
which is downhill and having two in it built differently. Obviously,
Joe was more of a tall glider, but he still
can lower the boom at two thirty and you've got
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a shorter compact two hundred twenty seven pounder. So if
you're a linebacker, it's not a lot of fun to
play against the Texans. And you know you've got some
big boys in the offensive line. I mean you look
at Titus Towers, a guard, you know, big strong guy,
You've got cannon experience. You got a bigger center, not
(01:52:02):
as tall as Patterson, but stronger physically in Jake Andrews.
So overall I'm looking at the line, I see like
a little bit more size, especially if Ursury if he
should beat out at any point Cam Robinson or Blake Fisher.
It's a very big offensive line. It's a physical, robust
(01:52:23):
kind of football they want to play. I mean it
doesn't extend just as the trenches, but when you have
two Twin Towers and six or four wide receivers that
are both sizeable guys that can kind of bully some
of these defensive backs, I think you know they're Bill
Parcels used to say this about big guys beating up
(01:52:44):
little guys. There's some concepts like that within the offense
where they're just bigger and more physical and it's harder
to compete with. And I just didn't think the offensive
line sometimes last year and the whole offense sometimes they
were the nail.
Speaker 1 (01:52:59):
Not the hammer.
Speaker 9 (01:52:59):
If you will.
Speaker 7 (01:53:01):
Eron Wilson here, sorry, eron Aaron joining us here on
the Sean Salisbury Show. Final one from me. We're about
a month away from training camp. Do you anticipate many
other moves being made or do you feel like this
is gonna be the group of ninety that we're gonna
see there when they hit camp.
Speaker 9 (01:53:17):
Yeah, they're going to add a corner. They are right
now weighing which corner they'll add. One of the corners
that they've auditioned. What's from the east Roughnecks name in Ournett,
who's had an all feeld problem, seems to be on
the right track now from everyone I've talked to, and
he was here this week for a workout, and that
is still an ongoing conversation. They're also looking at another
(01:53:43):
you're free agent in Duke Shelley worked out and Keenan Isaac.
So yeah, they're gonna keep looking for a corner of place.
Ronald Darby's looks for that to happen.
Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
Real quick before you go, what's the one thing forget
the physicality, what's the one thing offensively it'll look different
for us? I mean, how they line up similar verbiage obviously,
what do they what is it going to look differently
other than the physicality on the perimeter aggressive, Yeah, all
that stuff to get to give them.
Speaker 9 (01:54:12):
That that's as far as a wrinkle. Yeah, So that's
something where I think that deepens has got to beat
on what Bobby slogans are doing because they weren't moving
around enough but pre sting a motion. And again it's
just some concepts that they do with the Rams and
Sean McVay. This is something that Josh McDaniel did. You know.
They're going back and watching like old Tom Brady stuff
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with Stroud from two thousand and three, two thousand and
four of them on the way back. So I look
for them to be a very game time, a specific
type of offense that changes a lot on the fly.
And really it's just as much as the players can
handle and absorb, you know, because we're talking about obviously
the Brady's and the Staffords very experienced quarterbacks. TJ's a
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sharp kid, and I think the autonomy, that's the other thing.
Changing protections to the freedom. So those are two big
things I look for. I answer two things, the motion
and stroud ability to just change the protection if he
sees something, change the play if he needs to. So
they're empowering Stroud and of course this means extra work.
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This is what he wanted and he asks for this
so and I think he can handle it just fine.
This should be more Stroud's offense, not just the offense
Cordator's offense, if that makes sense for sure.
Speaker 7 (01:55:30):
Aaron Wilson, he joins us here on the Sean Salisbury
Show football season. He'll join us every single week. And
Aaron enjoyed the time off four training camp hits and
we'll talk to you.
Speaker 9 (01:55:40):
Soon, be talking to you guys.
Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
You guys have a good weekends.
Speaker 7 (01:55:44):
I appreciate it. Aaron Wilson joining us. One thing he
said right there, Sean, that I think we can chew
on on the other side. But also to the textans
seem like there's not a ton of questions. That's not
the case everywhere. We'll get into a little bit of
NFL here as we close out our three of The
Shawn Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
Why you're back, this is the Sean Salisbury Show, get
back at it.
Speaker 4 (01:56:10):
This is CJ.
Speaker 7 (01:56:11):
Stroud's offense, not just the offense. And then immediately just
goes to thinking, oh, okay, that's what got J. That's
what got Bobby Slowick out of here, is because there
was the reports out there of disagreements and a little
bit of frustration whatever it might be, but rigidity is
not a way to be able to keep your job
(01:56:32):
in this business, especially with quarterbacks. And that's what it
sounds like is what went out at the end of
this is the quarterback not happy with the OC.
Speaker 4 (01:56:40):
That means the OC is not here.
Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
Yeah, well, and make sure that you This just gives
you a chance to extend your bandwidth for a good player,
maximize his skill set. And I don't think they did
that enough. Bobby Bobby Slow, it's a good coach, but
unfortunately rookie wise, after his rookie year, it felt to
me like Abus Slow it got a little bit too
complacent on let's protect this as opposed to maybe the
(01:57:04):
fact that he didn't trust an offensive line or didn't
trust what was going on. So they got a little
bit overly protective in what they did in the process.
They didn't protect the quarterback, but they got overly protective
in the way they attacked and the aggressiveness they went
about it. I fully expect them to be more aggressive offensively.
I expect them to be more multiple formations wise, And
(01:57:27):
that's why I asked the question of what are they
going to do different? It's a novel concept. The motion
allows you to dictate coverage. Why do you think they
went back and studied Brady Well Brady's good and Kaylee
has history with New England, but they studied Brady because
Brady will tell you the main reason he knew most
of the time pre snap where he was going with
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the football, which allows you to anticipate and get the
ball out quicker and get the ball out on time.
And CJ's a young player and they're going to give
him latitude at the line of scrimmage. Why in the
world wouldn't I give my quarterback walking to the line
of scrimmage. They got five guys over here and three
guys over here, just on a sheer numbers game. But
we call the play and guess they guessed right. We're
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running a toss sweep into a strong safety blitz. Great
idea check out of it. The freedom and latitude to
see something you like, if it's judicious and smart, to
get me out of a bad play into a better one.
Why would I play uphill too many? You see it
all the time, and that's a big problem with young quarterbacks.
They're all snapping their head to the sideline, the coordinators
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calling all the plays up until they're the ball snap,
and they don't understand coverage. They don't even know what
cover two is half the time. In these highs, they
don't they don't study it. Coach says, go here and here,
and they get to college like damn, and they're still
doing the same thing. By the time they get the NFL,
they're behind. It's an Alva concept to put the ball
in your quarterback's hand and allow him to get to
a play that he That doesn't mean you want to
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have seventy five audible checks. But with this, here's the
compliment to this. If you don't like running strong, go
opposite and run it the other way. The numbers game,
you can't take that out of a quarterback's hand. Rookie
or ten year guy. They've got to know enough and
study enough to know how to get me out of
bad place. And then the motion the reason they study
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Brady and pre snap read. For the most part, some
are doing a little less of motion. They follow and
they still play zone. But prestap motion allows you if
I'm running motion. Let's say I'm motion mixing out of
the backfield and nobody runs with him, Well, coverage you
think it is, it's gonna be zone. Nobody's running with him,
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so already pre snap. Now my quarterback knows. Okay, I'm
not sure if it's going to be covered three sky
or three buzz, but I know it's covered three or
I know they're playing zone. Now I got a head start.
If they run with mixing and it's the linebacker that
runs with him, what do you think it is? The
majority of the time they're playing man coverage. Now, you
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just got to figure out the matchup you like. And
is it blitz man where I gotta throw hot? We
have enough to block all those things. But that's part
of the bandwidth of an offense.
Speaker 4 (02:00:04):
To me, there is.
Speaker 1 (02:00:05):
Nothing more weak and scared And what do they say,
scared money don't make money, Scared play calling don't make it. No,
you got to be smart when you got to lead.
You're not gonna throw thirty times with a two touchdown
lead with two minutes to go. But I got motion,
I got multiple formations. I'm just attacked. I'm on the attack.
Oh you mean I can dictate coverage, yes, and so
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that's why you do it. Standing stationary all the time
is just kind of a I don't trust my team.
We'll do this. Some guys can't get off press coverage.
I would want to know and I always did as
a quarterback. The sooner, I can react to the coverage.
I know the conflict of the defense. The quicker, I
can give you an answer to the test. The quicker,
the ball comes out the quicker. We're doing things the
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quicker temple we set. They're chasing us. We're not letting
them dictate the temple. That's the offense I want, and
I'm assuming that's the level they're going to get to.
But I am a multiple formation. I would motion and
shift in formation eighty five percent of the time unless
we're going on quick count, lineup quick count and just
go and get ready because they're on their heels. Motion,
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give me a give me the advantage. I want to
put you in the difficult advantage. And if you motion
across and somebody steps up on the line of scrimmage
and he doesn't go with you, there's a pretty good
chance that backside safety is blitzing you from the off
side off the slot. So it just gives you a
better advantage. And more motion and more multiple with formations
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and motions and personnel groupings give you a better chance,
especially when the quarterback can handle it. I think it's
a brilliant move and I think, aside from the physicality,
that has to be a priority for them this year.
Speaker 7 (02:01:43):
Being proactive as opposed to reactive usually is what wins out,
and the Texans looking to do that in twenty twenty five. Right,
let's get back into the Astros conversation here top of
the fourth hour of the show. Because trust was given
and trust maybe earned last night. We'll talk about it here.
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the great performance out of the Astros offense. That was
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Speaker 4 (02:05:08):
That's nice.
Speaker 7 (02:05:09):
But on the pitching side, something that we've been giving
in tons of praise to because for good reason, they've
been outstanding this year for the most part across the board.
But Ryan Gusto had been one of those question marks
and last night he at least had a strong answer
of well, this is what I can do if I
find the strike zone.
Speaker 1 (02:05:31):
Oh, I thought you were getting my bad I thought
you were getting ready to play some sound. Are you
are you asking me? Yeah? Are you asking me how
I felt about that? Consistently?
Speaker 4 (02:05:40):
Yes, yes, you are the sound.
Speaker 1 (02:05:42):
Okay. I think Ryan Gusta was outstanding last night, And
as I've said earlier in the show, I believe fully
that he understands the situation. And as people start to
get healthy, it's okay to go out and think you're
pitching for your livelihood, meaning you're starting job. The guy's got,
the guy's going to be a really good pitcher for
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this team, and defining his role right now. I mean
he's trying to define himself, so the definition is not
going to come from somebody else, is going to come
from him. And performances like last night and mixed with
obviously the offensive firepower they put out there make his
job easier. But he pitched well enough to win a
three to two game, a four to two game in
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a tight game, didn't walk but one and struck out seven,
was pretty damn sharp, scattered some hits, But that's the guy.
If you have in the back end of your starting rotation,
that life's going to get better. And for him, every
time he goes out there, he realizes the evaluation of
their trust in him, and he validated Joe Spott his
belief in him last.
Speaker 7 (02:06:42):
Night and the time before last, at least a couple
of times before last when he faced the Tampa Bay Rays,
he went He went three and two thirds in that start,
and I remembered at the time Sean Chandler Rome asking
Joe spot a point point, can you continue to do
this where you're not getting at least five innings out
of this guy, or at least getting him through the
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fifth inning at that point, see if we can go further,
And Joe said, yeah, we're gonna trust him're gonna run
him out there.
Speaker 4 (02:07:09):
We're gonna stick with our guy.
Speaker 7 (02:07:10):
And then a similar question asked after the start against
the Pirates when they lost three to nothing. And last
night I think you saw that trust kind of play out.
And I think another thing that can't be underscored here
is even though you score, you hold Chicago scoreless there
at in the top of the first being able to
go back out there with a lead at least takes
some pressure off of him.
Speaker 1 (02:07:30):
Of course it does. It's anything. As a quarterback, I
was one of those guys always kind of liked when
our defense started a game and they had the first possession,
and get us a score, or get him backed up,
or get a stop and we get the ball midfield.
That's a win. Now you're going into your first series
a little different. Now some light you know, it wasn't
a bad thing getting the ball going down to scoring
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and boom put it on him. But I kind of
had the feeling, let's go out there, set the tone,
punch him in the mouth, and then it just makes
your job easier. And in the case of a pitcher,
it's the same thing. They post you some runs to start.
It's now you're pitching a little more free. You're not
afraid to make the one mistake even though and if
you do, you can overcome it. You're pitching more aggressive,
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You're attacking zones of the way you want to as
opposed to, you know, kind of getting cute name in
a baseball I mean it's it's a quarterback and basically
it's so many similarities and the mental approach on a rend.
Got a pitch to pitch, throw to throw, play to
play basis and so yeah, and the same thing. If
you're a bullpen and you've got starting pitching, knowing you're
getting into the sixth inning and maybe beyond it. Sure,
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lets those guys, I'll be fresh legging. It's gonna be good.
I only have to give you two outs today, only
got to give you one inning. We don't have to
go through the fifth, the sixth, the seventh, the eighth,
the ninth. It's a good thing. And all the specialization.
Hell yeah, and you just anything you do once the
bonus is in the bank. It doesn't mean you get complacent.
When the bonus in the bank, there's a little bit
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of perk to your confidence. Oh I got that before
I start with that great man. That first day it
works will be awesome. You go out and pitch, you
you got runs posted. You take care of your business,
it's a really good thing and it freezes up. Doesn't
mean it's always successful, but there is a different mentality
that you can go to the mound with or get
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into the huddle with. When you've got a score that's
posted in your favor, there's no question.
Speaker 7 (02:09:22):
Well, and it's also you talked about pitching for his job.
I mean, it's not like you know it's mission accomplished
and he's going to be staying in the rotation.
Speaker 4 (02:09:31):
I mean, you still got the trade deadline coming up
next month.
Speaker 7 (02:09:34):
I've talked about it that you would be just fine
being able to go out and get a fifth starter
or somebody that can get you into the fifth and
can get you maybe a five and a third maybe
every once in a while quality outing. But you're just
looking for innings out of those guys. I mean, that's
still kind of the burden to proof. With Ryan Gusto,
there's no question.
Speaker 1 (02:09:54):
And it'll be they'll be looking. Now it's one where
he gets into the sixth. Now the next start, you
can do the same thing, the repeat factor and rense
and repeat and do it again. They know he's got
good stuff and he's a good picture. It's the length
and adding to it. Now, that doesn't mean we just
want you to eat up innings but give up nine runs.
What is keeping you in there? And it's it's it's
you know, just to just to let you eat up
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innings at times, I know that matters, but quality innings
and last night was a quality start frame. He pitched
well and gave his team a legitimate chance on the
mound and then they just you know, over extended the
lead by making it putting it out of reach, and
then the bullpen came and do you know comes in
and does the rest. So yeah, it's a And if
you're a bullpen, as I mentioned, not only are you fresh,
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but imagine if you're coming in the seventh inning with
a ten to two lead, with a ten to one lead,
with a seven to three lead, with a seven to
one lead, don't walk the first hitter and just to
take care of your business and and get and throw
strikes and get people out your your approach there. So
it's a collateral thing. I mean, you know, there's collateral damage,
but there's also that permeates through the good stuff and
(02:10:58):
it's like, oh okay, I also have a six run lead,
seven run lead, I can pitch a little more freely
and do my thing. And so Gusto did his job
last night. And when we say pitching for his job,
it's not like he's there's a DFA around the corner.
It's simply you want to stay in the rotation, keep
giving us innings and keep giving us quality starts. Make
it miserable on me to pull you out of that rotation.
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And last night was a good one for him, but
the next one will be just it's not more important
to say, Okay, he did it once, do it again,
get us into the sixth inning. Can you get to
the seventh inning? And if he can continue to build that,
everything else becomes simpler, even if you're hitting the ball
average at the plate, which they didn't do last night.
They came out smoking last night.
Speaker 7 (02:11:38):
And it's also I mean, in the theme of you
know you talking about preserving the bullpen, I mean you've
got now tonight's and going forward, eleven straight games and
eleven straight days, so I mean you're probably going to
need those guys a little bit more. And you got
Fromber going tonight, So with any luck, you'd be able
to go two days in a row of being able
to preserve some guys there in the bullpen.
Speaker 1 (02:12:02):
There is no doubt about it. And my guest tonight
is if you're the bullpen, while you're always ready, I
would think that you would expect we may not have
to have a whole lot of early work. I'm going
to suggest or give you a futures that ain't nobody
going to be warming up in the bullpen in the
fourth inning tonight? Okay? With fromber on the mound, this
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is one of those who say, man, let's get some
length that you stay ready. But I think you feel
pretty comfortable with the way this guy pitches and the
way he's going right now that you're going to get
not only a quality start, but a lot of innings
that he's going to chew up tonight. And I would
fully expect this to be a series win for them
(02:12:47):
with him going to the to the mount. He's been
damn good as last five or six starts.
Speaker 4 (02:12:51):
No question about it.
Speaker 7 (02:12:53):
And here's hoping you continue that theme again here tonight,
or at least that trendah one of those tea words.
Speaker 4 (02:13:00):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (02:13:01):
But anyway, Astros and White Sox coming your way a
little bit later on tonight six o'clock Astros on deck
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And the athlete is Lebron James and he is at
it again. He was recently on the He was recently
on a podcast talking about the way that the league
is covered, and it was with Steve Nash on the
Mind the Game podcast, and this was the quote to
me that really really got me going. It's just what
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can I say with out truth talking about the media
or without knowledge. This is what I want to say.
There's no accountability behind it. That now goes to our fans.
We have to protect our players and we have to
protect our product and also bring awareness. We're not in
this business to do your pr for you. Like That's
the number one thing that I just think that he
(02:16:20):
continues to not grasp is that criticism is going to
be there despite your best efforts and overall too I mean,
I've said it about the NBA, and we were excited
about the Rockets this year. But Sean, I mean, this
is the first time in a long time that we've
been excited about the Rockets. Why because they were good,
They were competitive, there was a reason to watch. It
was fun basketball, it was all of those things. I
(02:16:43):
don't have to just like your products because you tell
me to like your product. No, you've got to do
more than that. You've got to sell me on it.
Speaker 1 (02:16:49):
Well, the product's not good overall. In the NBA, players
are talented. The basketball product's not good. It's not better
basketball than they played ten years ago, years ago. There's
talented players. There's nothing to do with well, could Lebron
play in nineteen eighty and seventy and could good Tim
Duncan play now? Could good George Ice Gervin play. It's
(02:17:12):
not about that. I'm just talking about basketball. The quality
of basketball play is not The fundamentals aren't better. Defense
isn't better. I'm not that the players may be more talented.
Players aren't better. They got more access to talent and
film and all that stuff, and training and all that,
but they're not better. Players tremendously talented. It's not a
better game. It's just not, it's a worse game considering
(02:17:33):
all that goes on in load management. You ain't the
doctor j ain't having load management. Dude, Well that's an
old head saying no, it's actually not. It's a fact.
They're just not load management. Even when guys who've played
back then still like the current game. I like the
current game, I don't love it. Like the current game.
I like what I think, whether what I see the
rockets doing. But Lebron once again talking Lebron. So Lebron's
(02:17:54):
basically saying, you're not real sure when they're When the
broadcasters are talking about a game, it should all be
all good all the time, regardless. And here's a guy
who wants them to watch what they say or check
them on what they say. He doesn't even check himself.
So what's he talking? I mean, there's plenty of times
he's overloaded his mouth of his ass. Okay, So and
it is not it's your job as a broadcast. Now,
(02:18:17):
do I think some the hot takes so I think,
are what Lebron's talking about? Yeah, probably I would. I
would assume if he's talking about broadcast. But you're right,
it's not our job to do their pr work at
at sure second, not our job to tell them they're
playing great basketball, win in a finals or in the
first round of the playoffs. Teams are getting beat by
fifty by forty, save it. The quality of basketball is
(02:18:39):
not better. The talent's there, the quality of the game,
and there is a huge difference. And we're at a
time when you can get a series away, a game away,
two games away from the NBA Finals, and you fire
the coach. Okay, so, and if Lebron doesn't like he
as a coach right now, if Lebron wanted JJ Reddick out,
you know what happened to you, he would not be
(02:19:02):
the coach. So, you know, I think people also the
part of the PR is the people are a bit
fed up with I mean, some may not be, but
I think the majority of the world is fatigued by
player empowerment in that league. It's spoiled, it's entitled. Doesn't
mean they're not good, doesn't mean all of them are,
(02:19:23):
doesn't mean it's every day, but there's a different approach
in the way they go about it. I don't know
any job that allows you to say somebody spends one
thousand dollars on a family of five at a game
to go get hot dogs, a beer, a soda, cotton candy,
buy a hat for your kid, and sit in decent
seats and then find out before the game the guy's
tired because he can't go back to back. The Joe
(02:19:44):
LM beads a little sore from the game two days ago.
And so I got a great idea, how about make
it better for the fans. Make it better for the fans. Maybe,
just maybe. That permeates to the broadcast, which permeates to
the ratings, which permeates to the what do you want?
I mean, we got great basketball. We got two really
good teams this year and some really talented players playing
(02:20:07):
in it. You ain't watched fifteen minutes of it?
Speaker 4 (02:20:09):
Have you talking about finals? The NBA Finals?
Speaker 1 (02:20:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (02:20:13):
No, I mean I've I've watched it closer than I
did the rest of the playoffs. The rest of the playoffs,
I couldn't have cared. But for this one, I knew
it was going to be decent enough. If it's not
a conflict with the Astros, then yeah, Like I watched
most of the second half of night.
Speaker 1 (02:20:25):
But just going by you said, you weren't watching the
playoffs once the Rockets were eliminated, right, which you said,
But that's my point. Back in the day, or when
it's quality basketball or good basketball stars, you're gonna watch,
regardless of your teams in it or not. I know
I did. So it has nothing to do with being
older young. I want basketball to be I would love
it if the the the basketball felt the same well
(02:20:47):
that you you set your clock by it. There's at
times you're you're like, oh, it's on, yeah, and you
don't want that for you're exactly. I mean, Lebron's got
a point that you know, I hot take artists drive
me crazy too. And I guess maybe I'm putting words
in when he's talking about protect our game, protect our players,
protect your players. How about making it a little more
conducive for the fans who've got to spind an arm
in a leg to watch a guy take a day
(02:21:08):
off and play twenty two minutes because he's tired. He
plays eighty two And I get your tired, but you
know what, who isn't. So there's a lot of things.
There's a lot too like about the NBA, and there's
a lot not to like, and I got news for you.
You get beat by forty in a playoff game, then
that's not quality basketball, and that shouldn't be happening happening
(02:21:30):
in a seven game series with the two best teams
or the four best teams, when you're down to the
final four or final eight, whatever, once you get to
the playoffs. How somebody's getting hammered by fifty. Something's missing, dude,
So losing by forty, losing by twenty eight, twenty seven,
something's missing? And Okay, how many great rivalries are in
the NBA right now? I'm talking about rivalries where you like,
(02:21:51):
I don't support, I don't root for either team, but
I got to see this game. Name namely three rivalries
in the NBA right now that are like muscle none.
Speaker 7 (02:22:01):
I mean, if it's not the Rockets, I'm not watching.
I mean, and that's to your point too. I mean,
because we had that in the nineties. We had when
it was the Nicks and the Pacers, the Nicks in
the heat, even if it wasn't the Rockets. O. Man,
I got to watch that, you know, the Lakers and Jazz,
I mean, whoever it was, and.
Speaker 1 (02:22:17):
Somebody Celticks Lakers Pistons, Nicks and bulls. Bulls. I mean
there was a bunch of them that you tuned in
for the for the bat. You wanted to see my
horn and lamber lean on Patrick Ewing, Right, you just
did that. That was a rivalry you wanted to see,
even if you didn't root for the team. See, that's
when I know a league's good is when I'm watching
when your team's not playing and you're intrigued with it.
(02:22:41):
So but we don't have that. The rivalry is hey man,
you got a jersey for me, Let's exchange jerseys. Like
I said, I joke around, you really want to create one.
Do what hockey does. When these guys start their little
pillow fight and pushing and shoving, everybody get out of
the way and let them fight each other till they
go to the ground, and then jump on top of
his referee. We'll see, oh, we'll see these tough guys
(02:23:01):
then right, oh yeah, that the talking and the load
management and then get your tooth knocked down your throat,
run back to the locker room and come back out
with no tooth and finish the second half. It's not
just a tough guy thing. It's a perception. We would
assume that the NBA. Our perception is, at least mine
is that if that were to happen, the guy got
his tooth knocked out would go in and start requiring
(02:23:21):
oral surgery and miss six months. A hockey player walks
back in there, and we got rivalries to hockey. Now
you're watching them, even if you're not a hockey fan,
but if you are, you're watching them. You walk in
that back thing, those guys go get oh, forget the
tooth man, just stitch up the lip that needs eighteen stitches.
I'll see you in the second period. So, yeah, you
want to you want to create some rivalies and do it.
Let's do that. Let's change some rules of the NBA.
(02:23:43):
Not the height of the rim, not many how much
load management. We don't play back to back. And we're
going to put another gimmick of series. I got one
for you. When the pushing and shoven starts, everybody get
out of the way, sit back, let the referee sit there,
let them throw, and then when they're both exhausted from
their little pillow fight, they fall on the ground. Then
you jump on top of them. You want to start
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to create rivalries if you can't give quality basketball, quality talent. Hell, yes,
some quality games, yes, but even the Celtics Lakers rivalry?
Is there a rivalry right now between the Celtics and
Lakers other than the history of it?
Speaker 4 (02:24:20):
In truth now, it's kind of what we talked about
with the USC football earlier, like most most of the
guys playing have no idea about magic and bird right
zero right.
Speaker 1 (02:24:28):
So that's it. And I like rivalries. I like I
like Auburn Plain Alabama. I like when LSU and A
and M. I like when Southern cowplay is Notre Dame.
I like when Florida and I do. I like that,
and I think we all do. And I'm watching, Well,
college football is a perfect example. Why are you watching
Georgia play? Why are you watching Southern cowplay? I don't know, Michigan,
(02:24:51):
if you don't like either school, why Old Pac ten,
Big ten Pac twelve, Big ten, Rose bull ruck? Because
it's rivalry? History of it? Well, I'll call we sit
in front of our TV all day in college football
watching different games that we have no interest in other
than are they going to make the playoff? And how's
my bet?
Speaker 9 (02:25:10):
Do you do that?
Speaker 1 (02:25:10):
In the NBA? No, you don't even think about it.
Speaker 4 (02:25:15):
Well, we don't even do it on the day that
matters the most of them, Christmas in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (02:25:21):
Yeah, we want to take that right. So Lebron's got
a point. But the truth of the matter is Lebron
needs to have a meeting with They need to have
a meeting within themselves and how do we make it better?
Instead of telling the media and the fans they got
to make it better. How about you, guys make it
better for once? How about you? How about you get
docked pay if you're healthy and don't play. How about
(02:25:44):
do that once? Let me see that that don't make
a lot of people happy. Yeah, I know we can't.
It's hyperbomic and I know I'm late, Dan, but the student,
I know we got to get the break. But I'm
just telling you, you know what, how about that once?
I want to get guys out all instead of this
preseason or pre Christmas day, play in tournament and putting
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extra teams in and if you finish out of the playoffs,
we're gonna give you a chance to get back in
if you're in the top ten. Stoop gimmicks gimmicks are
what the NBA's made of now other than talented, very talented,
gifted players. But we don't have rivalries, we don't have
it to call these gimmicks. How about this, you want
to add a little flair to your gimmick, create this gimmick.
If you take a load management day and you're not
(02:26:27):
proved that you got a sick flu and you can't play,
or you tore a hamstring, or you're sore, sore and tired,
ain't an excuse. How about do that you don't get
you don't get that game check if you're healthy and
don't play, how about that. Well then they'll say, well
the coach will just protect him and run him out
there playing for three minutes and say he got a
(02:26:47):
sore hamstring, or the guy says he so you know,
I know we can't. I'm hyperbolic, but my point is
start creating gimmicks at work, not gimmicks that most of
us could care less about. The old NBA didn't need gimmicks,
They didn't need a gimmick. As matter of fact, gimmicks
got in the way of quality basketball. So play better basketball,
play more often, and quit talking about it, and get
(02:27:09):
your people to buy on board. Instead of media and fans.
How about making a better watch for the fans, then
we'll come see you more, create more rivalries well and.
Speaker 7 (02:27:18):
To your point too, just to wrap this up, it
wasn't necessarily a Lebron thing because, like we were talking
about the anonymous player poll that the Athletic did well,
it was the one that they did earlier this season
where they called Tyrese Haliburton the most overrated player in
the game. And now he's one of the stars in
the NBA Finals and has had a hell of a
playoff run.
Speaker 1 (02:27:36):
So it's like, okay, fine, jealousy, yeah, doing Halliburton. Halliburton
now is two games away, two wins away from wearing
the ring that all the other Cats aren't wearing, and
that a couple of them don't have it are never
going to get. How's that for overrated and the star
of the team. Okay, So I don't know what you're watching,
(02:27:57):
but maybe there's a perspective that needs change. If you're
the NBA players, it's the most entitled group athletes on
the planet. And it's not even close, not all of them,
but it is a group. It is the most entitled
player empowered. Take days off when you want smirk when
you want and make the most money in a short
period of time. Talented. The brand of basketball across the
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league is not the best quality. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 7 (02:28:21):
No disagreements from me, all right. You've heard of the
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The seven ninety listener line here in the nine o'clock
hour is presented by one eight hundred car cash. And
to some this is going to be low hanging fruit
because it is easy because he used to appear on
a show that as I stepped out of the studio
here momentarily, the Hallway TV had on where.
Speaker 4 (02:30:48):
We talk about knowing our audience at all times.
Speaker 7 (02:30:51):
The topic that they were talking on that show was
what do Luca and Lebron have to do to win
a championship? You just had Game three of the NBA Finals.
That's seriously what you're talking about right now?
Speaker 1 (02:31:03):
Come on, man, you know in that it'll be the
case and when the NBA Finals are celebrating, Lebron will
somehow be weaved into it. I understand this year they'll
lead with it somewhere somehow. Hey, congratulations to Oklahoma City
or Indiana. Then what a great final seven games? What's
(02:31:25):
Lebron gonna do next year? I get it, And in
the same sense, no, I don't get it unless you're
just a ratings you know, a ratings slut or you
know that that's that that's because but I think there's
also ratings uh fatigue that on television where you know what,
(02:31:45):
I think that we be honest with you, I shouldn't
have to hear Lebron names Lebron James name for for
for a while unless they add go out and get
Yannis and how he's paired with them. But it's just
such a lazy narrative to be talking about a guy
who's been in his living room for the playoffs as
long as you have. He's had a great career. We
can talk about all the time. But went in doubt.
(02:32:07):
The Lebron's become like lists during non sports season. Yeah,
mount Rushmore list, the top ten, the top five, these
are the top three. Who's the top two running backs? Whatever?
Could this guy on this list? Take ten guys from
this list and put them on this list in nineteen
seventy and ten guys here Lazy Radio lazy TV. Here,
(02:32:27):
it's TV, right, it's lazy TV and doing it. It's like,
oh okay, we got to instead of celebrating what's going on.
Another reason why Lebron's complaints about protecting the league aren't
it because we're talking about you when quite frankly, right now,
you're not relevant. I'm not talking about it as an
overall athlete. I'm talking about during these NBA finals. Unless
(02:32:49):
you're on there broadcasting yourself or you're giving us the
Draymond Green insight like he does on TMT at times,
or Barkley, you're not relevant. We'll talk to you when
training camp starts. There's no relevance for him for us
to talk about Lebron James other than it's the Lakers
and winning down. I got all this, got it, Let's
talk Lebron. Because you know why the broadcasters know Lebron.
(02:33:12):
They're familiar. They can they can take the same story
twisting around and say the same things about Lebron and
Kendrick Perkins if it's that show, can get up and
tell you why he's ten times better than Michael Jordan
and then we can all laugh, and then I mean so,
but it's a lazy. It's lazy television or lazy rated that.
Oh you know what, wait it out, let's just talk
(02:33:33):
about that guy. When you got Gilgess, Alexander Caliburton, two
teams that have played their ass off. There's a lot
of it. But I understand ratings drive stuff. But I
can also tell you this, I don't think many people
want to talk Lebron from their living room right now,
at this time, Lebron's at home. Lebron's one championship in
LA was in an abbreviated season, and then the coach
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got fired pretty soon thereafter. It was a Frank Vogel
wasn't a sixty game guy. So it doesn't. And so
as much as I love the Lakers growing up a
diehard Laker fan, and the respect I have for Lebron's
career and how good he's been as the second or
third best player of all time, not the first, he's
a great player, but right now, what does this relevance
(02:34:16):
have anything to do with the seven games series in
the NBA Finals? Not a damn thing. I mean, it's
the latest he's brought. I don't care. Talk to me
when it's time for training camp and we'll see what
lebri Dan, You'll get it every day a little bit.
It's like Aaron Rodgers fatigue. You know what's Aaron doing?
What's Aaron? What's Lebron? I don't care what Lebron's doing
right now. I care what these two teams in the
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NBA Finals are doing.
Speaker 7 (02:34:38):
Man, your thoughts on the Cowboys next, No, I mean,
that's that's it. It's right, it's the laziness that you
brought up. But it's also too I mean, Sean, it's
such a simple concept, kya Man, know your audience. Know
your audience. Your audience doesn't care right now about Lebron
James or Luka Doncic.
Speaker 4 (02:34:54):
They saw the video of Luca lifting.
Speaker 1 (02:34:56):
Smoking a grit. Luca probably lifted some doub bells, smoker
grit and go score thirty five.
Speaker 7 (02:35:02):
Hey, look, if you can do it, I'm not I'm
not gonna blame you for it. But the addition to
the pay no Mind list Skip Bayless and this tweet
sent me into a rage last night. The Pacers should
win this game. This about the beginning of the fourth core.
The Pacer should win this game at home. Crazy hot,
so much star power in the building, thunder or just
(02:35:22):
getting overwhelmed. Now, some of the things just kind of ancillary.
They're they're part of it. What the hell does the
star power have to do with the game?
Speaker 1 (02:35:30):
What you think?
Speaker 7 (02:35:31):
Tyre's Haliberton and Benedict matherin there in the huddle with
Rick Carlisle. Hey, guys, Caitlin Clark's here. We can't let
her down. Like we absolutely cannot let her down. The
star power would matter if Kaitlyn Clark got out there
and launched a three, that's when it would matter.
Speaker 1 (02:35:44):
Listen, Skip Bayless. While I appreciate what he did to
carve out a great career for himself and get paid
a lot of money to spew a lot of stupidity
for a guy who's not dumb, he's smart. Is Skip
Bayless is the poster chick for saying stuff he doesn't
believe to get a reaction out of you and everybody
(02:36:05):
else that he got When why would you even give
a fuzzy rats That's what he thinks when he doesn't
believe the star power he was talking about last night,
and you and I both know it. He's created a
multi million dollar home for himself, meaning income for himself
to say stuff like Tom Brady's not even in the
(02:36:25):
top ten quarterbacks in the league of all time. You know,
I don't know if he' se that that kind of
stuff that you're like, He's the king of hyperbole, dude,
He's the king of hot takes. He speaks, he says
stuff knowing that when you're turning it and two million
people are going to view every time he puts it
up because he'll say stuff like, how can anybody think
that Michael Jordan's a top five player of all time?
Speaker 9 (02:36:49):
What?
Speaker 1 (02:36:50):
He doesn't believe it? And then then he gets it,
and you know he'll just disappear from the conversation. Right,
you're not going to engage in it. He did that
so you can fight among yourselves and it can ruin
your night. I've never let a go room might because
he doesn't believe what he's saying. Why should I? And
if I'm not taking advice from a guy, why in
the world would I gave? Would I have any care
about his opinion? I just want another sixty minutes on
(02:37:10):
a show, to on a debate show, so I can
have him walk out thinking this was the wrong guy
to debate with. That's what I've always wanted. I just
want three hours with him. Don't pay me, just give
me three hours on a set with him talking all
these subjects he wants to talk about so he can
get lit up. Okay, and I like Skip bayliffs. I
(02:37:30):
respect anybody's carved out of career. He just carved it
out a way that is left. That exactly the reason
that Lebron James is are bothered by. You know, well,
we got to protect our league and protected I'll tell
you part of protecting you leagues. Don't fatigue me with
stuff that doesn't matter. I could care less about the
Lakers right now.
Speaker 4 (02:37:47):
He's just he speaks words, honestly at a certain point
for what.
Speaker 7 (02:37:51):
He's not on a show anymore, like right, be retired,
you may crap ton of money, go away, fine, but.
Speaker 1 (02:37:57):
But he's gonna he's gonna create it. He's gonna be
on another show. And I both know because of these
this very reason, his hot takes create people to the
dog on at the water cooler to talk. I mean,
I'd rather be talking about who's doing then the Lakers
right now? Who's doing the US Opens? It's NBC, right me?
The US Open? Yeah, like that no to be gay? Yeah,
(02:38:19):
who doesn't want to talk about not to be gay
right now?
Speaker 4 (02:38:21):
I mean, you know, would love to talk about him.
Speaker 1 (02:38:23):
Mike Turrico exact, great crew, great broadcast crew. I just
like saying his name. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Tiger Wood know to be gay and he's good with
his goll. I want to talk I want to know
what Dan Hicks is. I mean, I want to talk
about us open more than that's says. We want to
talk about us something. We want to talk about Lakers.
(02:38:43):
What are the Lakers in Lebron James movie? Are they
moving your needle right now?
Speaker 4 (02:38:47):
Not even close?
Speaker 1 (02:38:48):
Thank you and good night. Yeah it was, it was.
Speaker 7 (02:38:51):
It was in the huddle last night. Hey guys, guys, guys,
Terry Crews is here. We can't let Terry. Hey, that's
that's Reggie Miller over there. We can't let Reggie. Is
that Pat McAfee, like, what are we talking to?
Speaker 4 (02:39:01):
Star parers?
Speaker 1 (02:39:02):
Star Power? What does it have to do with anywhere Garden?
There was star Power in the fabulous Forum, Staple Center,
Bitcoin whatever or crypto dot is it crypto readA Now
is that we're calling?
Speaker 4 (02:39:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:39:12):
Well, yeah, there's star power and it's the NBA Finals,
you're gonna get star power. But leave it at that,
and then two million people what you're saying skip and
it's it's it's a there's some really weird dudes out there. Dude, okay,
and there's some really weird ways to go about trying
to get people to watch your sport. I'm not sure
that's one of them.
Speaker 2 (02:39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:39:32):
Well, sometimes people just feel like they have to have
an opinion, and well sometimes it's it not really warranted.
Speaker 1 (02:39:38):
They are more than title. I'd listen. That's so you've
got a platform, use it. It doesn't mean I have
to listen to it, right, or enjoy it or pay
attention to it.
Speaker 7 (02:39:46):
That's my favorite. Yeah, I mean that's that's just my opinion. Well,
it doesn't make it right. I mean I don't have
to expect it just because you said it.
Speaker 1 (02:39:53):
Yeah, And if you say, well, in my opinion, you
don't have to reiterate that it's just my opinion. You
just told me it was your opinion, and you're giving
your opinion. So unless you tell me it's fact, I'm
assuming it's your opinion and I really don't give a
fuzzy rats ask what you just said says I don't
care about your opinion, but I'm listening because I'm paying you,
not you, but the respect. But when all said and done,
three minutes after we're done with this segment, I'm not
(02:40:15):
going to care about I won't think about another Skip
Bayless quote until somebody else is pissed at him. Right,
don't care or Lebron James for that matter. You know,
play in the NBA Finals in a non shortened season
in LA with all that access, and then come see
me and then we can talk and we'll talk about
you during the finals while you're playing great career. But
right now you're no different than the Minnesota Timberwolves or
(02:40:35):
the dogone Orlando Magic. You're at home. Yeah, sure, so
we don't need to be discussing you. In television networks
that go in their rundown meetings, they should take that
into account as well. Why are we talking about somebody
who's irrelevant right now to the NBA when it comes
to these finals? For sure?
Speaker 7 (02:40:52):
Real quick, as we close out this edition of The
Sean Salisbury Show, you thought that this was going to
be something that doomed a local team. Maybe it got
him going we'll talk about it here. It is a
Sean Salisbury show, Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 2 (02:41:06):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show, Sales. That's beautiful, Sean.
Speaker 7 (02:41:13):
Did you see the picture that was making the rounds
on social media yesterday of Pope Leo the fourteenth where
it was when he was named as the new pontiff.
Immediately the Chicago Cubs put up on their marquee outside
Wrigley Field. Hey, he's a Cubs fan, to which then
the White Sox and most people started doing some sleuthing
and realized, no, he's a diehard White Sox or he's
(02:41:35):
a Cubs fan, but that he's a diehard White Sox fan. Well,
somebody yesterday at the Vatican gave him a White Sox hat.
Speaker 4 (02:41:42):
He put it on.
Speaker 7 (02:41:43):
In Astros fans immediately on Twitter thought that means we're doomed,
we're getting swept in this series.
Speaker 1 (02:41:51):
Well they're not. You said, you said the White Sox
are going to sweep the Astros in the series. Yeah,
that's their side.
Speaker 4 (02:42:00):
Yeah, the Pope, the Puplio bounce, the good.
Speaker 1 (02:42:03):
Lord might be an Astros fan, you know what, he
very well might be, So it's don't worry I mean,
the Pope pulled some weight. But guess what the Pope
didn't do last night or tonight. He ain't pitching and
he ain't swinging a baseball bat. His name's not Christian Walker.
What I did there?
Speaker 7 (02:42:20):
No, absolutely, that's where I was going next. As a
matter of fact, you were picking it right up of
Christian Walker able to say, oh, I got something for you.
Speaker 1 (02:42:27):
I'm just glad, he said, Pope, this home run. They
instead of pimped the home run put.
Speaker 4 (02:42:34):
Yeah, there you go. Here's a blessing. Here's a blessing
for you.
Speaker 1 (02:42:37):
Yeah yeah, here here here take this from my repentance.
Had the upper tank there.
Speaker 7 (02:42:42):
You go, had it not gone well last night, I
think we would have needed to enlist the help of
the rally nuns.
Speaker 1 (02:42:47):
Again. There you go. They're always there for us. So
the Pope may now be an Astros fan. Hopefully you go.
Speaker 7 (02:42:54):
Maybe, maybe maybe we can get him that orange star
hat he's sewn. Salisbury Triple Emmanuel L. More, Dan Matthews,
The Matt Thomas Show with Ross coming up next.
Speaker 4 (02:43:04):
We will talk to you in twenty hours
Speaker 1 (02:43:10):
Now,
Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc trop longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show. One
that's hammer day till left bail.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
You can't kiss it.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Good pop.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
One of the train tracks. A two run jack for
Christian Walker. Had a three nothing lead for the Astros.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Swinging this one hit in the left center field and
that is down for a hit.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
It'll go all the way to the wall. Al Tuvey
will score easily. Yiner right behind him. He'll come in
and score RBI double. A two run double for Christian Walker.
He's driven in four and the Astros leaded five to nothing.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Now when hammer to left field, going back on.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
It, looking up at the bah, I's off the top
of the wall, Pna into second base.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Pam Smith scores. It's an RBI double for Jeremy Payne
and he just did miss getting that ball into.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
The Crawford boxes. And the Astros lead it six to nothing.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Two one ground ball up the middle and past the
dive of the shortstop Kapra in the center.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Caratini scores. Smith tears for third to throw in. The
third is dropped.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Smith in safely an RBI single for Jacob Melton and
the Astros late.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
As nine to two.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Let it wash you over.
Speaker 7 (01:34):
You just feel it all the Bats of plenty last
night over at dyk In Park. Astros will go on
to win the game ten to two and send it
to a rubber game this afternoon. And he'd heard it
all last night right here on Sports Talk seven ninety
KBMME Houston and iHeartRadio station.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
And with that we say away we go.
Speaker 7 (01:54):
I good morning, Dan Matthews, Sean Salisbury, Triple E, Emmanuel Elmore,
hanging out with you this morning.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Sean.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
We're finally having that show. I said it yesterday. I
want to have this show the morning after and we're
finally having it.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And with the guy driving in four runs and a
couple extra base hits too that you were wondering when
it was going to get going, Well there you go.
You got your gift, man, you got your present last night.
It came and the Bats of woke. The question is
sustaining it and making sure you do it but look
like an offensive ball club. That and Gusto did a
nice job last night. Man.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yeah, definitely, Oh go ahead.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I'm sorry if you I'm were going to say they
had it that performance like that, You there's a little
bit of comfort, right, you get a little bit of
stress free game, and the bats awoke and it was
awesome to watch.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
Definitely was and Walker last night three for four. And
another thing is too is I think they played it
on the TV before the game when Joe was asked
about walker struggles and he was like, hey, even sometimes
a little flair fucking down, you know, anything like that
kind of shows you that maybe you're coming out of
this thing. And sure enough, his third and final hit
of the game, a check swing that goes over the
(03:08):
first basement in the right field, and you're just like, okay,
maybe maybe now all of a sudden, he's kind of,
you know, exercised the demons that have been been grabbing
a hold of him all throughout the beginning part of
the season.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
When you hit it hard, it goes to people. That's
why I said yesterday what is a quality? I mean, well,
what's a good at bat? What is it hitting the
ball hard and getting out or blooping one and getting
the base hit. Well, he did both yesterday, you know,
hitting it off the wall, hitting it into the seats
and then getting a blue pit, and so sometimes when
the ball's going to the wrong people, you start doing
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that and then all of a sudden they just start
falling and you start feeling good and to just get
a little get a little rhythm going. But last night
it was it was a nice watch seeing him do
that and getting rolling. So whatever a nice bat is,
hit it hard and get out. Well, okay, feel good
about we're doing it. But the average goes down and
could be misleading. Hit a bloop single and you know,
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blooper the base hit. It's like, man, I didn't see
If somebody didn't see the game last night, Oh man,
he rope three balls. Well he roped a couple of
them and blooped another one. But quality about he gets
a base hit. So it depends on your perspective. And
last night was as we talked to Dana yesterday and
asking him how Christian Walker's attitude, how he was feeling
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and understanding that he goes through these things and he
just keeps swinging. And that's why, as we said earlier,
you're not replacing it at first base. He's going to
play there. We saw all patient. They were with a braid.
You they're going to be every bit as patient with
this guy, and I think it's a it'll end up
paying off to whatever, to whatever payoff that is, but
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he'll be better than he's been and last night proved it.
And if you get that bat in the middle lineup
in Jordan back, now we're looking at something a little
different here and a little different a little different pressure,
the little less pressure that the pitching staff has to,
you know, throw three hitters and go through eight innings,
or a bullpen has to have to, you know, make
(05:09):
every single pitch and pitch every single inning. It was,
really it was. It was nice to see last night
and I know people the ax Well was against the
White Sox. It's still to take them however you can
get them, because if I do recall the day before,
the Astros lost four to two. So it's professional baseball
and I'm sure for Christian Walker doesn't matter how they
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come so complete a pretty damn good team performance last.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Night definitely was.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
As you got eight of the nine Astros starters registering
at least one hit last night. You get multi hit
performances out of Jeremy Pania, East Soak, Perettis, jose L
two ve mentioned Walker Janer Diaz also in there in
cam Smith with a couple of knocks last night, so
it's nice to see that out of those guys.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Shout out to jose L Twove to.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
Career hit twenty three hundred for him, So I mean,
he just continues to go further into the record books
and the team as a whole. Sean eight for seventeen
with runners in scoring position, and for Walker, if I'm
not mistaken, two for two with four runs batted in
in those spots.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
That's what we like to see.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Been begging for that for a while, haven't we. I mean, now,
like I said, it becomes a matter of sustaining it
and being consistent. But that's how you knock out pitching
staffs and bury an opponent. When you got people in
position to score, you deliver those clutch hits at the
right time. The timing of the hits obviously more important. Hits.
(06:36):
You can have twenty two home runs during the year,
but if the thirty home runs during the year, but
if twenty four of them are solo home runs when
you're down seven runs, like I've said, not really that much.
I mean, it looks good on the stat line, and
for a new contract, but it didn't make much difference.
But hits like that right timing, you know, a single
with nobody on and your down eight runs and it's
(06:57):
the seventh inning, it's like, oh, deliver, but in this situation,
delivering with runners and scoring position. And it's been a
problem for them over the last you know, last year
and this year became a problem last year, And hopefully
they'll get that fixed and continue because two to one
wins with clutch hits are really really important. But also
(07:20):
games like this where you give your pitching staff a
little less stress and where it's not a high leverage situation,
you'd go in there and just let it rip and
pitch makes it a little bit easier on them. And
last night it was a nice job by Gusto, but
a great job giving him some latitude standing on the
mound with the lead and the way they were swinging
(07:40):
the bat.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
Yeah, And I don't want people to take, you know,
the first few minutes of the show to take away
from what Ryan Gusto did, because obviously a career high
six innings out of him strikes out seven, only walks one,
So that's nice to see scattering seven hits and just
giving up those two earned runs. We've been searching for
this for a long time out of Ryan Gusto. I mean,
because for the most part, Sean he'd been living in
(08:01):
that four innings four in a third world where he
can't get out of the fifth inning, and he gets
out of the fifth last night, then he gets to
the sixth there and you're kind of like, all right,
one out, two outs, well can you get one more
to further the career high. I mean, that had to
be encouraging to see and it was really nice to
be able to see him put together that type of performance.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, you know, you try to find your role as well,
and he's served a couple of them this year and
has had his, you know, some difficulties as a starter
getting late in games and did a nice job. I mean,
we just we discussed if somebody like that at the
back end of the starting rotation can give you six
six and two thirds pushing seven innings and don't give
(08:44):
up free runners, strikeout seven and last night was a
solid performance. That starter you saw last night is important.
You get a guy like that who's coming to the
back end of your starting rotation, well, you're looking at
a whole different a whole different team. You know what
you're getting at the front end for the two guys,
and then three up and down, and then the back
(09:04):
end of four and five you're like, okay, what are
we going to get out of this? And last night,
if that's the Ryan Gousta you see on the mound
that's going forward, that's that's going to serve the astro
as well, and the arms and the bullpen, well, it
was an important start for him last night, I thought,
and I thought he pulled through. Like I said, he
didn't give a lot of free runners. There was not
a lot of stress. And you know he did his
(09:26):
job getting some swing and miss and and put his
innings in. You log those innings, you'll have a fresh bullpen.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Well, and that's the you know.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
The other part of it is that, I mean, you
don't want to get too far ahead of yourself with
that start. I mean, he'd like for him to be
able to build off of that. It would be very nice.
But I mean, if you're able to get five innings
out of your five starter, most times you send him
out there. I mean, Sean, all of a sudden, a
month from now, when Dana Brown is picking up the
phone and trying to call teams and trying to.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Add to this team.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
Maybe that maybe that priority goes away for you where
you say, you know what you've got. You're getting good
stuff right now out of Gusto, out of Gordon, And
I mean it seems like for at least the time
being Brandon Walter being up here.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well, like I've said before, general managers, managers, coaches in
the sport, you're always looking to make your roster better.
You're you're always looking. You're always looking to replace somebody.
And when I say that, people say, what do you
mean right now? They want to replace out to it? No, no, no,
you're always looking and your eyes are open and the
ears are open, not like you're scouting like a like
(10:31):
a sniffing dog and the gat you're looking for Dreagon
not like that. But you're not passing up whatever it
takes to make your roster better. If you're good at
your job and as a player, if you'll approach it
knowing that and and that that accountability and pressure, it
does matter. They're always their job. My job as a
general manager is to look to make the roster better,
(10:52):
not to make more friends, not to appease the fans
on because he's a fan favorite, but he's hitting one
ninety seven or you know what I'm saying, or he's
been there. While that's not my job. My job as
a general manager or a manager is to play the
best players, you know, do what I can to get
by them. But as a general manager, my job is
to find better players. Now, if you've got great players
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and you don't have to worry about it, the player's
job is to make it miserable on the management they
ever have to replace. The player's job is to play
so well they can't replace you once. Is to replace you,
always looking the others to play well enough to entrepreat you.
And it's not that harsh you're waking up today if
you're your not Albatz Thonking, they're trying to replace me.
The point I'm making, I think you know, is that
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is the job title as a general manager. It's to
create chemistry. Do all that, get the right people for
the roster that help you win. The player's job if
you don't want them, to go trade for somebody Ryan
Gusta to find a fourth or fifth starter, what do
you do? Log performances like that, because then they get
to it and say, well, damn, he's on a roll.
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Do we want to give away assets. He's proven he
could be a fourth or a fifth starter, he's versatile,
you know what. We don't need to pull that trigger
of course, of course, and the layer as it goes on,
what happens you start to think, You think, well, you
know what, as we get closer to it, that memory,
that's closer to it. Man, the last five starts, the
guy's been on a roll. Nope, we're not making that deal.
We'll go somewhere else, We'll do something else. And it
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really is as simple as that. GM. I want to replace,
I want best, I want my best players as a player.
I'm going to make it difficult and impossible for you
to replace me. That's a job. And regardless of Ryan
Gusto of like, we say, well I get too hung
up on one start, he's got more of them, Well
why not? I mean he can't let it faster, But
he doesn't pitch again for what five or six days?
So for me, five or six games. So for me,
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I am going to make a big deal of that
because it's not so much momentum it's the confidence that
he may be gaining, because if it was a bad start,
you know, we'd be doing what's going on with the
guy gave us two and two thirds inning, he's got
to give us more. So on a good start, we
don't have to lag and say well only the bad
stuff got to really harp on. I know it's a
one pitch, it's one pitching performance. It's one game, but
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you got to do one and be good at one
to us to say, well, the streak is now two
or three or four in a row. Is a pitcher
or a hitter. Same thing with Christian Walker, great game,
Well it's only one game. Well, in order to get
to two, I had to get to one. Sure, so
if we spend just as much time all of us,
it's like, that doesn't mean you let it fester and
you over do the celebration. I don't mean that. But
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it's okay to feel good about last night because soon
enough that's gonna end and you're gonna be on the
rubber again, or Christian Walker is going to be back
in the batters box to have to swing again, so
you know, swing that bat. So we spend a lot
of time all of us do. When something goes wrong,
we're like, oh, gosh, get him out, what's wrong with
this guy? But when it goes good, like, oh, it's
only one. No, it was only one when he did
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bad too or struck out three times, so I think Ryan,
it's okay for him to feed off this and grow
confidence from him. We spend all of us spend too
much time on well, he struck out three times, but
when he gets three hits, that's not as important. Of
course it is. And both of those guys, Christian Walker
and Gusto, you get that performance of both of them
this year, the Astros will end up dominating the division,
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because that'll tell me everybody else. If he's still the
fifth starter, fourth starter, fifth started, depending on his role,
that'll tell me the other cats are pitching well because
you didn't move him up in the rotation with Walker.
If he's still in the middle of the lineup, well,
guess what that'll tell you start to get hot whatever
that is.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Yep, you definitely hope that that's the case for not
only him, but also for Gusto too. I mean for
both of those guys. I mean Gusto would be a surprise.
Walker is expected so hopefully the Astros can ride that
going forward, trying to go for the rubber game of
the series later on this evening fromer Valdez is going
to throw in that one. So you feel good about
your chances in this one tonight before you bring the
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Twins into town to continue the six game at home stand,
you want to get in on the phone lines. It's
seven one three two one two five seven ninety against
seven one three two one two at five seven ninety.
For the Astros. The road to winning is simple. We'll
talk about it. It is the Sean Salisbury Show. Just
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Speaker 5 (15:10):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
And with his performance last night, his average now rises
to two seventeen on this season. He was at two
oh eight heading into the game, and we touched on it,
and it's not only just a walker thing, Yiner Diaz.
I mean I heard Matt and Ross talking about this
yesterday and Ross said this, and I was like, you
know what, You're one hundred percent right. Let's just say
that Walker right now, like east Soak Predis is at
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two fifty four. If he's hitting that, then We're not
talking about Christian Walker because I mean some of the
issues strikeouts with the hundreds and scoring position, just general
struggles at the plate. We're talking about Yiner Diaz at
that point because of how good he's been with the
bat in recent years.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
There's no doubt about it. And if both of those
guys get rolling and the power comes out and both
of them, who are think twenty five home run guys,
well you're you're looking then the lineup we're talking about, man,
Look at the depth of the lineup and how deep
it is, So yeah, you're exactly right. But er Diaz is, uh, well,
he's had his struggles this year. I think we all
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fully expect that he is going to good hitters hit man,
and it may not be the same average you want,
but good and hitting the right position, meaning at the
right time the timely hits. So I uh, he's a catcher.
Was the catcher of the future two years ago for
a reason, and it wasn't just behind the plate, more
importantly at the plate when he is when he's on
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the offensive side. So yeah, it is having them both
at this this year. Think about it now and you're
still what now thirty seven and thirty, if I'm not mistaken,
with thirty seven and thirty sitting here, the astros are
and you're sitting there with Jan Diaz who's had moments
now getting better, Christian Walker last night to hit the
ball harder. But neither one of them have had the
season start that you want. And that's so true. The
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normal lineup before the season started was Al two, Ve
was Paradis more than likely in the two hole, and
then it was going to go jord On Walker, Yiner.
Now you tell me what three, four and five, for
the most part offensively have done for you this year.
Not what you expected thirty seven and thirty and now
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you've moved pain you to the Obviously Al two he's
been hitting. There are times in the three you got somebody.
It's just it's fluctuated. It's been the lineup's been different.
But when you look at it, the three four and
five that were more than likely gonna be Alvarez, Walker,
Jiner or however you mixed and matched it. Maybe one
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of them was going to hit the six hole at times,
But the middle of your lineup has not supplied the
same power your third baseman has. Think about that, to
think of thirty seven and twenty, and you're right, you'd
be talking more or less about one of the other.
They didn't struggle yet. All three in the middle lineup
have had their struggles and or injuries this year. And
at some point while they were cold, you said they're
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going to get hot. Well, what happens when they get
hot and you're already thirty seven and twenty without them
catching fire for a sustained amount of time. It's a
good problem to happen. Man playing thirty seven and twenty
baseball and we're raving over one performance, and rightfully so,
because like, yes, that Christian Marga that looked like the
guy that you signed, and those three get rolling and
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you get the consistency of paratus, and we know what
OL two B is all about, and pain is playing
out of his mind as he has all year now,
one through six, one through seven, which would mean your
eight hitter or your nine titters hitting three hundred plus,
and that's Jake Myers. Now it's a whole different narrative
on the baseball club. When the supermodels of the supermodels
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aren't doing the supermodel stuff. We don't think there's any
good supermodels. But when when seven and eight, nine are
playing well and one's hitting well. Somewhere between two and
five and six, it's been kind of a uh. It
makes that everything else, It takes away from everything else.
But everybody else could be struggling. But man, when the
middle of your lineup's breaking and you're getting good pitching,
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we seem we assume that all nine are hitting when
only the guys on the periphery are hitting. Guys, we
don't consider your big boppers in the middle. Everybody else
is hitting and they're not, we assume that well, they're
not playing well. Now, no metrics and numbers will bear
out the stats on all of them as a team.
But the perception we get is when the middle of
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the lineup hits, everything's okay. That'd be you know, your three, four, five,
and six when they're everything's okay. When they're not and
everything else is okay, it feels like a bigger struggle,
and it probably is. But there you have. We got
the three guys in the middle of the lineup that
we're going to hit between three and six, regardless of
whether it was four or five or six. That's how
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that lineup was going to be. And they have not
I lived up to what they have expectations themselves and
what we have. If that gets going, the perception and
the narrative shifts on this team immediately.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt about it. And
I know that I said eight of the nine starters.
It was actually seven of the nine. Sorry Victor overlooked
you going for three last night. But still, I mean
to your point, I kind of think of the football
example here, a defensive one, even though we're talking about
offense with the astros, is who are your leading tacklers. Well,
your free safety is your leading tackler. Okay, it's better
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than not making the stop with the bottom end of
the order getting hits. But you want your linebacker, your
inside linebackers to be the guys that are getting the
most stops, because then you say, all right, well the
play is not going all that far down the field.
You start getting into the secondary guys that are your
leading tacklers, then usually it means bad things for your defense.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
There is no doubt it's great you have it. Now
if you're playing an active defense where that guy's will
sitting down and run stops. Safety is hanging in the
hole and is basically an outside linebacker leading it. Well,
then you're probably a little bit better. But if you're
back in guy leads your team and tackles, it tells
me you're getting mauled in the front seven. While it's
good individually for that guy, it means you didn't get
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your gig done. You didn't get your gig done, and
I got to clean up. Yeah, that's not usually a
good thing, unless, of course, you're a box safety who
doesn't cover and you're in essence of Sam or a
will linebacker, an outside linebacker. Okay, because your presence is
down there all the time. But when you're a secondary
guy and you're a too high safety or you're you know,
playing coverage, and all of a sudden, they're baking and
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they're average seven yards of here and you're making the tackle.
After an eight yard game, you look at the numbers. Set, man,
a guy's got twenty nine tackles in the first two games.
And then you look at the scores and say, yeah,
and our defense is given up six hundred yards and
sixty points and two outings. That's not a good thing.
It's the same thing here. You're exactly right. So some
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can be misleading and when it comes to the team
structure of it. But yeah, you don't want your you
don't want your back end guys to lead the team
in tackles, that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Yeah, it just would really be nice to see prolonged
success out of those guys. I mean, you know, you
can't necessarily count on it going for weeks or even
months at a time, but at least increased production. I mean,
you know, out of Walker, it's nice to see a
performance like that La last night, because I mean I
can't remember the last multi hit game that he had
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with him it was if he got a hit, it
was one for four, And I mean you just can't
ride that and think you're going to get long term
success out of that. I mean, those are fine, they
have every once in a while, but you want to
be able to every once in a while as well,
at least with a little bit more consistency. The two
hit performance last night, the three hit performance where he's
just a triple shy of the cycle.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, you were one, correct, I And while you may
not be able to sustain it for months, there are
play We've seen guys, guys in the middle of a lineup,
whether it's whether Christian Walker Yaner Diaz can pull it off.
And last night in the case, Christian Walker waited. But
you know what, as the guy in the middle of
the lineup who's got power, those guys can go in
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bunches and it can last two or three weeks, just
like slumps can't. It can go him up. Now, Jordan's
a different cat when it comes to that, because he
literally can't carry you for a half season. Now, you're
gonna have to get a good pitching. But at the plate,
we've seen him where it's like, man, it feels like
it's been going on for two months. They can't get
the guy out. We've seen players around the league. Hell,
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some guys live there. That dude in Los Angeles, the
pitchers and hits when he's healthy. You wake up and
you say, how do you get seventeen home runs? Well
nighted and he does more good. I mean he goes
through those. Even when he's going one for four, it's
one fourth home run to RBIs. I mean it just
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those guys can do it in bunches. And you know what,
they brought Christian Walker in here to to obviously be
more consistent. You're not gonna he's not gonna hit three twenty,
but if he can hit two sixty with twenty six
home runs and eighty five ninety rbisen, then then you say, Okay,
this was a good get. So it's gonna be important
also protection wise and for this team for him to
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sustain it longer than one or two games in a row.
And last night gave you a good indication of why
what data brown and the team says, why they like him,
and why he's been hitting the ball hard and just
he's been a little unlucky and sometimes that happens. Last
night he was very, very lucky and very good, not
even lucky. Put the bat on the ball and the
ball went out of the ballpark, and you know, he
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was hitting it all over the place. Extra base hits,
which we talked about the two days or three days ago,
how important they're going to become when small ball's fine
once in a while, but you're gonna have to you're
gonna have to slug, and they did last.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
Night, absolutely did, to the tune of fifteen hits and
ten runs. Great to see that for Christian Walker nine
home runs and thirty three runs batted in on the season.
Six of those nine have come at dyke In Park.
So hopefully these next four games teams he can really
continue to make the most out of this homestand Joe
Aspada's trust in this guy has paid off, and we
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will talk about it to see if indeed it can
continue to pay off for the Astros here as they
continue through the season.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
We'll talk about it right here.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
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Speaker 1 (25:27):
Three or four under eight. Winning this thing, I'll be shocked.
It's supposed to be fair but difficult. I mean, if
they get under par on this there's some predicting this
is going to be one over par maybe. And the
gentleman whose name you mentioned in God bless whoever it is.
You know, I follow golf. I have no idea who
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the leader is, and that that doesn't matter. Some do.
And hey, you're the leader early in the morning at
Oakmont at a major at three under, post that score
and play that way every day and you will win.
But and we've seen people come out of nowhere to
win stuff like this, but I would bet on your
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futures that that's probably not going to be the winner
when it's done. But man, he comes out like I'm
three under already. What a good What a good feeling
that's got to be with the group you're playing in
and with the people you're you know, playing against all week.
So that's gonna be a fun tournament at a pretty brutal,
difficult golf course. So I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Got it on here in studio and they just showed
how he got the two under to start things off,
and it was a whole out from the fairway on one.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
So nice little now.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
You can get them, that's right, take them how you
can get them.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
Absolutely, And I had no idea that Trey Wingo doing
stuff for NBC Sports now, So that's good to see
Wingo back in it.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Oh good. Yeah. Yeah, He's done stuff for some you know,
some some betting people, and obviously was my partner at
ESPN for a long time and really good guy friend,
and I know how much he loves golf, so I'm
sure this is a thrill for him to be able
to do some stuff for NBC at that venue. If
he is there, I haven't seen it. If he's at
the site that I know how much he loves golf,
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But to be back in the mix of it, good
for him, good guy, and I'm glad Tom.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Yeah, absolutely so a lot of good groups out there
early this morning. Like I said, we'll keep you up
to date on what's happening out there at Oakmont Sean.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
We talked about Joe A.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
Spada and his words after Ryan Gusto's previous about two
or three starts, and I think it was two starts
ago where he was asked point blank by Chandler Rome
of can you continue to do this with this guy
where you're not getting out of the fifth inning, and
he said, yeah, no, we trust him.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
We're seeing good things.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
See he's gonna get there, you know, don't worry and
paraphrasing him, of course. And then the same thing after
his last start out against the Pirates where the Astros
bats and that one did not come through for him
and you lose that one three to nothing, gives up
a couple of runs, and then another one later. But
last night you saw that trust pay off, And I
mean we talked about it you know, we want at
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certain times guys to be yo yoed out of a
lineup or out of a rotation or anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
But Joe Spota, I mean, it just goes to show you.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
He was this way last year in his first year,
and I praised him at the time Sean of saying,
it's amazing that a guy that's got his first managerial
job is able to have this type of patience and
not be reactionary. And he's taken those lessons in year
two and he's taking it even further.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
There is no doubt, and you're always going to be
questioned if you keep them in too long and things
don't work out well. Wise, he don't get rid of
m you know, be a little more knee jerk. And
when your knee jerk, people want more patient. So you
really you're in a position where it's difficult to win
unless you're winning. And this he knows the culture of winning.
And he even said during you know, before the left
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of spring training got us about how important year two
was for him for the things he learned. Patience is
a good thing. The one thing I always tell people,
I say, there are around these guys every day, even
from our optics and the guy struggling, why do he
stick with him longer? Why are they running him out there?
Why is he a starter? Why not back in the bullpen?
For whatever various reasons they decide in their own clubhouse
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and in their own meetings. But I do know this
that the Ryan Gusto also with people starting to work
to get healthy, he's pitching for his his spot in
the starting rotation. And that can be either detrimental to
some who can't handle the pressure or really good for
some who can, because he really is I mean, it's
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not like he's your number one or two starter. No
matter what happens, you're running him out there. I mean,
he may be in the bullpen. He understands it right now,
this is his role, but I would imagine he'd like
to keep this role. And part of that, and the
a spot of patients is things that they see and
know about his stuff and his makeup that maybe we're
not around every day to see how he handles a
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win like this, but also see how he handles a
loss when you're around him. I know how they're saying
it the media. I'm talking about the everyday optics and
body language and that that a guy goes through Christian
Walker him when you ironerdas are struggling how to how
certain guys in pros handle things that have been through
it more and been through it less. But there's also this,
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this great incentive is a player when you know that,
and I hate that your starting position is not the
most secure in the rotation. So you got really two choices.
You need to pitch well and validate their patients, or
you go three in three and a third three more
times in a row and give them an easy out
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to make sure that you're in the bullpen. And I
would imagine Gusto likes this role and he pitched last
night like you did, so yeah, and for a spot on.
These are the reasons when you watch last night, when
a manager who's only in his second year but knows
baseball see stuff, and when you going through tough times,
they see enough stuff to say, well, it's not just
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by attrition, we got to throw them out things we
have no bodies. It's well they still think of the
guys they're running out there. He gives you the best
chance in that spot. And I know it's pretty simple.
It sounds simple, and it truly is you keep pitching well,
I can't take you out, meaning like last night, you
keep going three in a third, or can't get out
of the fifth inning or the fourth inning. You're going
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to make it real easy when people get healthy. And
that's all that's all Gusto can do is is post
and post well. And he did. And what does what
last night does is validate why Joe Aspata learned his
patients last year and has carried it over and at
times can be maddening to some from a distance of
like why And as I've always said, I'm always looking
for a why answer. Well, the why is they see
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more than we do, and they see this, and I
would imagine they've seen enough stuff that this is kind
of a bench of your head set. And having a
beerau of Sandwich and jbar and barbecue with Joe Aspota
that Joe would say, well, that's the guy we expect.
Knce the patience. So Joe spot on learning on the
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job as well. Listen, he's only in a secon year.
Regardless how many years he has been in baseball, You're
still a manager, just your first time, and it's only
your second year. You can play quarterback forever. Be a backup,
and when you're the starter, it's different. Oh, he's been
in the league forever. You should know that it's just
different because you're prepared and to look at it different
when you're the guy making all the decisions. Patience has
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been a good thing with Gusto and last night, for
at least last night, it paid off well.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
And it's exactly what I had talked about earlier in
the season with him of you know, just doing again
the yo yo of him going back and forth between
the rotation and the bullpen, and it's kind of like, man,
define a role for this guy, Like, if you want
him as a bullpen guy this year, then have him
as that. But you know, if you want him in
the rotation, which by necessity they have, then keep him there.
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And last night able to use a little bit of
that longevity'd go deeper into the game. As I mentioned,
six innings out of him in this one, and he
throws ninety one pitches, which I believe is a new
season high for him too. So you'd like to be
able to continue to get starts like this out of
Ryan Gusto, and hopefully the Astros can going forward. I
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used a couple of words earlier that I think will
come back to help this twenty twenty five Astro's team.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
One of those two words. We'll discuss it right here.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
It is the Sean Salisbury Show on a Thursday Sports
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Especially with injuries to some key guys. I mean, we
focused on the starting rotation and for good reason for
all the guys that you have not had or at
least are without right now. But it's in the lineup
and that is Jordon's out, so you've had to have
Victor Karattini get more at bats. And you also are
without Chas McCormick at this moment, so that means more
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playing time for guys like Jacob Melton getting the call up,
and you know that Jake Myers is gonna be out
there in center. You also know that Cam Smith is
going to be out there in right field. But still
you're gonna get those guys back at some point, all
of a sudden, when it seemed like you did not
have a ton of the two words functional depth, it
does seem like once the Astros start to get guys
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like Jordon and Chaz back, that Joe can look at
his lineup and say, oh, I got guys I can
count on.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
There's no doubt the depth of that lineup with as
many lineup changes as this team has had, meaning they
don't have a problem giving people well, keeping people on
their toes, knowing they're get mixing in McCormick and making
sure Dubon gets starts at a couple different positions, getting
Dezenzo when he's ready to go some at bats, Melton
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gets it. They become deep in a hurry and they do.
And when you're bringing a guy who just a couple
of years ago we thought was going to be an
everyday player in Chas McCormick when he had his best
offensive season, and get him back in there that's a
good thing. I mean not starting every day. You get
a veteran on the bench who can give you that. Yeah,
there's no doubt about it. Health is an issue for
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every team as the season goes on, and who those
healthy and non healthy people are. But when it comes
to this, you get the good pitching. But if you
can get those guys healthy, boyd doesn't lengthen your lineup,
but also give you the leeway to give guys rest.
Whether you like people taking rest or not in baseball,
it's needed depending on how much is up to each
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person's individual loves. But I can tell you this that
having the ability of spot and the opportunity to be
able to make changes and not be forced into a
decision because you don't have depth is a really really
good problem to have. It really is. And they get
healthy and all of a sudden, a few of those
guys get hot, we're looking at a different offensive team.
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As long as this pitching holds up, everything else is
gravy in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Well, you heard what Dana said yesterday.
Speaker 7 (38:22):
I mean he feels like this is a World Series
roster at the moment, and he'll feel even better once
the guys start to put it together offensively. And it's
not even to say the other part of what I'm
talking about, where you're going to have a regression from
Jake Myers. He's not going to hit three hundred like
right now he's at two ninety five. That's not going
to continue. He's going to get back to being a
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maybe two fifty hitter. But with what he gives you defensively,
and you just hope that you can get on base
much more than you're not, or at least he has
in the past, then I mean, you still feel good
about what you have one through nine.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Oh, there is no question. And you know we can
keep saying, well, Jake's not going to live there, but
we said it a month ago. There there's no way
he's still there. People have had outlier seasons. I don't
know if he's going to hit two ninety five or
three h three or two thirty four. He may very
well go. But it's an amazing thing when you start
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to validate the belief they showed in you, and they
have shown it in him. Talking about believing in Ryan Gusto,
what about Jake Myers, And there's nobody if you said
two fifty and you've got two fifty from him this year.
That's a huge win. You're like two fifty and and
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you know you're thinking, well, memoir two thirty two to
twenty seven, Well, maybe this is the year it does continue.
Maybe this is Jake Myers is closer to two seventy
five than he is two twenty five as a hitter.
Sometimes a little confidence, a little shift your paradigm, a
little belief, and you go, now, I'm to jumping out
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in front of this and saying seventy games or so
in thirty sixty seven games in that this Sue is.
But I can tell you this, aren't you glad? This
is who he's been considering the circumstances. He's kind of
come through this year in a big way offensively when
they've needed it. Now, imagine what the bonus it'll be
when everybody's healthy and he's hitting eight, seventh, eighth, ninth,
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and he's sitting two ninety seven and playing good defensive
center field, and you have that luxury. A two ninety
seven hitter doesn't hit in your eight hole normally. Okay,
So that'd be a nice problem. I mean, I would
love the shock of the season, say can you believe it?
Jake hit two eighty eight this year, and who's to
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say that this doesn't continue this year. I don't know,
but I know this getting healthy and having him at
the back of the lineup where he's going to be
regardless would be a good problem to have.
Speaker 7 (40:55):
Absolutely it would be. I mean, you've been looking at
links in this lineup for some time. I mean even
you know, going back to the twenty nineteen season. I mean,
you see the graphic all the time people share it
of Oh man, I remember this lineup. That was a
fun lineup, and you've been yearning to be able to
have that type of production one through nine, and at
least the Astros seem like they can give themselves every
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Speaker 7 (44:39):
The NFL Insider going to join us to recap Texans
mini camp and also Chris Gordy going to join us
for his Thursday visit here on the show, Stros win
last night, tend to over the White Sox says they'll
go for the rubber game of the series later on
this evening. Texans done with many camp as I mentioned,
and the Pacers now up to one on the Thunder
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after taking Game three last night in Indianapolis again seven
one three two one two five seven ninety is the
number to get in Sean. It does seem like and
a couple of days ago, I mean, with the news
of John Boy being a partner now with Major League Baseball,
that fired up a little bit of shades of twenty twenty.
Of of course, the astros cheating scandal, the punishment, all
(45:25):
of those things in the aftermath.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Of it all.
Speaker 7 (45:27):
But the booze still happen. All of those things still happen.
But one thing that I feel like I've noticed that
has kind of continued to wane over the last few years,
where it's now it's an afterthought. The players don't care
about it anymore. The players have completely moved on. And
even at the time, you had some players saying, hey,
what are we doing here? They weren't the only ones
(45:47):
doing it, and we're going to escapegoat these guys and
make them into you know, they were just running this,
you know, just completely malicious scheme that nobody else possibly
thought of. The narrative was out there. But you also
had a lot of players who are like, give me
a break.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Yeah, you're going to get some self righteous players that
are still I will not do this. I don't It's
like a hall of Fame voter that knows that that
person didn't like alto Vy, didn't partake, they still won't
vote for him the Hall of Fame because well, this
is just who I am.
Speaker 9 (46:19):
He was there.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
That's the same thing here, I mean the self righteous
part of how dare them? Yet? The reason why players
forgive they're around the players. They get it. Everybody's looking
for an advantage. But when I say it, which what
do you mean? Shod everybody's trying to cheat out, But
everybody's looking for an advantage is those guys know stuff
like this, trying to steal signs, trying to it goes
(46:41):
on all the time, and they know that they weren't
the only one doing it. The way they went about
it was different, but everybody's doing a different players, and
you get to a point where it's you know, you'll
always have the one that looks at your sideways like, yeah,
you want you stole my world series? Those are few
and far between. Players are around players all the time.
They get it, and they also understand that the players
(47:05):
what goes on in the clubhouse and the dugouts when
you're talking and how to get an advantage, Well, man,
you know the sign's good when you staying on flash them.
So I know, regardless they love this whatever it is
that we've seen from nineteen seventy to now, players get it.
They're always going to be the one who says, well,
I don't live like that. I would never do that.
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I would never take an advantage. And they're going to
give you a hard time. But still you're exactly right.
The time doesn't heal everything, but it sure kind of
fogs up a few things when it comes to this.
And players know because they're around it every day, and
they know that not only were the Astros not the
only ones doing it, they just did it a little
bit different. And how about this John Boy guy? All
(47:48):
of a sudden goes from I've never even heard of him,
which is fine, I guess that's life to pointing out
banging on a trash can. And now the guy is
in cahoots and a partner with Major League Baseball again,
I mean a partner with Major League Baseball. So that's
(48:10):
how it started. And here we are, Squeaky Wheel got
the oil. So there you go.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
Well, I mean, I'm not so bothered by it, and
what's sticking the cross?
Speaker 1 (48:18):
I'm not bothered by it at all. But you know
what I mean. The thing I'm bothered by is they
didn't look in there. You know how long it took
with the Yankee situation. Well, I'm not bothered by his success.
I don't know the guy. I don't pay much attention
to it. Like I said when it first came out,
when they said that, John Boy pointed, I didn't know
who was. I don't think anybody did because it was
just kind of just throwing out videos and pointing stuff out. Listen,
(48:40):
I give anybody credit for the grind. I'm just saying.
Think about how my point was. Think about his path.
He went from you not knowing to to you know
to the next thing. You know, he's got a contract
in Major League Baseball and him are in partnership, and
this went from the his biggest move was what the
trash can stuff? Was it not? Wasn't that his biggest
(49:01):
needle mover at first?
Speaker 7 (49:03):
His biggest needle mover in the one that sticks with
Astros fans is that he perpetuated the buzzer line.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
That's why what yeah? But also that that it saw
all that out the the the the stuff with the Astros.
He kind of started that, correct, I mean, maybe somebody
that he was one of the flag bears he advanced.
He advanced it, that's for sure. So point in it. Listen,
you may not like I don't know anything about him.
People here may not like him because of that, but
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I'll give anybody credit with the grind because major League
he's got a partnership with Major League Baseball. They in
the bad partnership to have. So, like I said, I
don't pay much attention to the to to. I don't know.
I mean, I see him on social media, but I
don't know his entire background or where he comes from
or how why he started this. But it's worked out
(49:55):
for him career wise. But they're probably always going to
be some disdain with with the fans and Astros fans
or fans across baseball that may think that you know,
what he's doing is you know, was what he did
was wrong, or that they didn't like it because it
affected their team. But I ain't mad at anybody for
the grind there on. But I don't know enough about
the guy other than that those incidents. I don't know
(50:18):
how I don't know how much he knows about baseball
because I don't pay attention to him, but good on
him if he got a partnership. I respect the grind,
but it was a major It was obviously a dark
time in Astro's history. Obviously.
Speaker 7 (50:30):
Well, where I'm going with this too is that we
all the time see random player surveys, anonymous surveys. I mean,
you know, you do the top one hundred in the
NFL every single year, Hey, who's your top ten? And
they build it off of that. Well, the Athletic just
did one with Major League Baseball players and it was
of many different things, which organization has a good reputation
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amongst the players, in which one a bad one. Here's
where I say that it doesn't matter to the players anymore,
because we'll start with bad. One hundred and fifteen respondents
to the survey that was sent out by the Athletic.
Only two of the one hundred and fifteen said that
the Astros have a bad reputation. The good eleven out
of one hundred and twenty six said that the Astros
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have a good reputation as an organization.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
So Sean, yet again, I've said it.
Speaker 7 (51:21):
Listening to the players, this thing is all the way done,
It's all the fans now that continue to beat this drum,
of course, and they.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
Will continue to because it's convenient. Hell, fans that are
beat and now aren't real sure what they're beat, why
they're beat, and why they're booing no pun intended, the
beating of a drum or a trash can, so they
don't know. Yes, players, it's become a eye rolling afterthought,
the question is will it be when people are voted
for the Hall of Fame and how? And you know what,
(51:49):
if it was that big a deal, organizations wouldn't have
picked up anybody, if they were that self rightous, wouldn't
picked up anybody that was through these things, whether it's
bets from Boston, whether it's Springer to Toronto, whether it's
you know, Carlos Korea in Minnesota. Listen, players, players understand
a little bit different, whether it's right or wrong. Players
look at things a little different. They do in every sport,
(52:11):
and the fraternity is usually bigger, even though there's some
who make whole bitterness against it. I think the Astros
are a franchise that people that people do respect and
think has a good reputation. Even though even though this
incident was a big one and it costs them dearly.
I think most players understand that. Again, it goes back to, well,
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why are we so hard on them? We're not hard
on other teams that were doing the same thing, just
a different way. It's just the way they went about it.
They skin the cat different. Most players understand that. And
that's why now and you ask four years from now,
you ask the question, the statistics will eaven be more favorable.
As long as the Astros continue to win and Jim
Crane's their owner, they will continue to have favorable responses
(52:54):
to players. People want to play there now, Wow, And
they do. They just want to play for them. They
just do no.
Speaker 7 (53:00):
I mean, and it's to the point you brought up,
I mean about the changing faces that you've had and
you still continue to do what you're doing. I Mean,
the term the Astros are inevitable is there because I mean,
they've proven it of being the team that when it's
all said and done, they're going to win the AOS.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
They're in the lead right now.
Speaker 7 (53:20):
But I mean, I think that's what kind of surprised
me a little bit, of not having a better reputation
of I mean, that's what you hear about all throughout
the league.
Speaker 4 (53:27):
How do these guys continue to do this?
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Who's been a more consistent team the last eight or
nine years? I mean, the Dodgers have won a lot
of have been to a lot of postseasons. Who's been
a more consistent division winning alcs that when the season
starts they're always in contition. Who's been more consistent than
the ro Astros over the last eight years?
Speaker 7 (53:49):
I mean the closest one I could say would be
the Dodgers. I mean, you know the Braves, but I
mean they just like the Dodgers, have had their early
postseason hiccups. I mean, and now the Astros did last year,
but before that, no.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
I think about it, right, you have to think about
the others. If somebody, if you're sitting in New York
and they say, even if you don't like them, say
give me the last almost the last decade, last eight
or nine years, who has been the most consistent team
in baseball? And if you're being honest, you'd be You're
gonna be hard pressed to put the Astros anything. If
they ain't first, they ain't third, Okay, so they're they're
(54:22):
they're they're in that top three. And I can contend
that they've been as consistent as anybody, consistently good and
uh posting their stuff as good as anybody the last
eight or nine years.
Speaker 9 (54:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
They don't have four World Series championships, but they've been
in them, they've won them, and they consistently are at
the top of their division and a threat to win
a World Series. And they've been as good as anybody
within you know, inside this last decade, and.
Speaker 4 (54:47):
There's no pushback for me.
Speaker 7 (54:48):
One other quick one here, which manager, aside from your own,
would you most like to play for? Joe A spot
At did not make the list, but two did vote
for Dusty Baker, who, of course is not managing right now.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
I get that, and I understand why players would want
to old school player gets it. Lets those guys kind
of police themselves, I get it. I would imagine Bochi's
names on there, without question. I would imagine that Tito's
name somehow fines its way in there, do it? Are they?
I didn't look at the list, so for me, those
would be my top two Bochi and Tito. And maybe
(55:22):
I'm biased because I am friends and know both of
them and they've spent time with both of them. But
the reason I say that, But they're also very good
at what they do, and they veterans and young guys alike,
they know how to cross that line of they're not
just old school or new school, and those would be
my two. But Joe's only been doing it two years,
asked the question in five years, and that may change.
(55:42):
And Pier's the guys here love playing for Joe, But
I get why people would want to play for Boci
and Francona veterans who've seen the old school in the
new school, who kind of allow players to police themselves
but when necessary step in and everybody know who's the
boss is without them having to tell you. And both humble,
gracious guys who weren't superstars in their sport but have
(56:03):
been superstar managers. Both great. That's a good list to
have at one and two.
Speaker 7 (56:07):
And Joe also was not on the aside from your
own would you not want to play for? So Joe
still earning his stripes in the game amongst the players,
at least the ones that were asked by the Athletic.
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and they say, I'm gonna just keep Maybe that's a
good marketing employee to get people to come in and
spend money. Obviously, but I'm not stopping there. There's got
to be a lot more. You might want to get
me half the farm that you're growing it on for
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your dispensary, even though I don't smoke it, but you
know what, we can find something to do with it
or the money that would cost that, because that ain't
enough if you've bigfoot. I mean, come on, man, I
understand a scavenger hunt, but for bigfoot enough, Yeah you
got you got to get far more than that. Dude,
they're about to see just how many You know when
people say, oh there's a reward if you see the
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criminal driving down the street and the cops will get
eight billion call saying I just saw this, as like,
come on, that car, that's not the same car. That's
what you're about to face with this A bunch of
stone Bigfoot chasers for some pre roll. I mean, come on, now,
you do it. Just the pot's got to be far sweeter.
There's got to be like that, you know, that little
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Leprechaun the movie The Leprechaun. There's got to be a
pot of gold somewhere if you if you pull that off,
it's worth a lot more than that I was gonna say.
Speaker 7 (01:03:24):
I mean, you know, don't they have like they keep
the product in glass jars. I mean, I figure, yes,
you got to give over one of those huge glass
yards of just be like, hey man, here you.
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Go, gallon, how about a fifty gallon drum? That would
help the people. But obviously the people who offered have
been hitting a little the gummy pack a few times themselves,
so you've got to sweepen that offer well.
Speaker 7 (01:03:46):
And I mean I saw this story aggregated on out Kick,
and Sean Joseph was the one who aggregated it, and
I love his next line right here. That's the sort
of thing that will get some motivated sownars taking to
the woods prepared to grab some evidence. So that's the
other thing, now, is you're gonna get a bunch of
people who you know, they they hit the bong and
then they're like.
Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Hey, man, let's go find it. Oh yeah, yeah, let's
go dude. So you're just gonna have a bunch of
stoners just walking around in some Michigan woods somewhere, not.
Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Afraid of anything and stoned out of their mind and
like enjoying the outdoors they're in search of. There you go. There,
there's your documentary how to look for Bigfoot while you're stoned,
and you're getting undervalued when you bring the picture back
of Bigfoot. So do you think Bigfoot exists? Dan?
Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Oh, one hundred percent.
Speaker 9 (01:04:32):
I do.
Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
I just do.
Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
I want to believe it. I want to believe it.
Speaker 7 (01:04:37):
And it's also too I mean where you've had stories
of its existence in numerous places, and in the northwestern
part of the world or the US, I mean the
in the southwest of Colorado, as I mentioned. I know
that I told this when we were talking about Bigfoot
last week, that I used to drive through this small
North Carolina town going to a casino there in western
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North Carolina, and they had a whole museum, a shop,
and signs that were more than likely joking but still
saying be on the lookout for Bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
You think Bigfoot's East coast or West coast?
Speaker 7 (01:05:10):
Guy, I mean, I think it's like us. You know,
there's there's there's a few that are scattered.
Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
You think, do you think there's more than one?
Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
Absolutely? I think there's more than one.
Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
If you think there's a tribe of a tribe of them,
I think.
Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
That probably they have to scavenge on their own, because
I mean, maybe that's why there's so few of them now,
is that there was a fight for food, so you
know now you have to go about to you know,
trying to find it on your That's that's exactly what
it is. And only only the strong survived.
Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
So is it more like in the Adirondacks or more
in Wyoming?
Speaker 9 (01:05:44):
Where?
Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Where? Where are you going to find more of them?
Are they more East coast rap? West coast rap?
Speaker 9 (01:05:48):
Say?
Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
Probably more of the apple Achians.
Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
I'm thinking I'm thinking more West coast. And you know,
you might find them in the word the grand Eons, right,
you might find them in the Wasatch Mountains. You might
find I'm thinking more Wyoming, Montana, Colorado. Every now and
then you find one rolling through New Mexico. Maybe somebody,
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maybe maybe one decided they like Sedona, I'm thinking, and
then yes, you're right, you're the Smoky Mountains, the Appalachians.
I can understand that as well. But I'm gonna lean
even though they're, like I'm assuming, big and furry. If
they do exist, they've got a good coat, can handle winners,
even though the winters on the West Coast and Wyoming
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and Montana are brutal. But the other months they get
a little thought out, a little quicker. I'm going to
say they are more western part of the United States
as opposed to the eastern and northeast. And you know
what up there in the Minnesota, you know, the Boundary
Waters area not a bad place as well, Wisconsin. So
you might have them spread out. You might have them
spread out depending on how many are left and how
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many are you know, quite frankly, how many of them
are getting another one pregnant, so we could have more.
So they're not extinct, you know what I'm saying. Right,
They're still They're still banging, aren't they.
Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
You have to think so if there's multiples that are
in the same area, yeah, I mean, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
They men's tea clinic. They probably went in there and
got their testosterone, right so they could have more. Baby,
that's the way keeps. That's the way they keep it going.
Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Right now, you got to keep you got to keep
revn one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Damn drives. One thing I have.
Speaker 7 (01:07:29):
Noticed though, to close this out, I've never noticed the
Canadians speaking up about Oh I've seen it, it's there.
I mean, they got the Northern Lights and all of that,
But you never hear the Canucks really speaking up about Oh,
we've seen them in these you know woods near Vancouver.
Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Maybe they're trying to ballhog them. They don't want the recipe,
you know, they got them and could be ballhogging them.
Could be I mean, got to get a little pass
for it, you know. Who knows, yea, who knows. But
I would imagine a couple two across the borders probably
imagine they got a couple of their own. Yeah, how
they speak? Do they speak like Canadians? Maybe a little
bit of Canadian accent I'm talking about it.
Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Maybe I mean that it could be.
Speaker 7 (01:08:06):
I mean, look, you know, if you're up in the Midwest,
like you mentioned Wisconsin, Minnesota, I mean you kind of
already talk like a Canadian already as.
Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
You are, right Dakota's Yeah, exactly, that's exactly right. So Fargo,
you got to be one in Fargo, probably nearby, probably nearby.
I actually do believe you think that they exist?
Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Oh I want I want to believe.
Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Yeah, it's kind of like claws, right, you want to
believe claw. I still believe Santa exists?
Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
Oh yeah, no, he does so.
Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
I so I would imagine the bigfoot is then, but
everybody's big foot? Is it like a cat? I don't
think cats know their names. I think you just call
every cat kitty here, kitty, kitty, kitty, and they all come.
So I don't I don't really think cats, you know,
like your dog. You call your dog your dog, we
call cat. I think they look at you with attitude.
You can call it kitty, kitty, kitty, and they all
have the same name. What about we call them all bigfoot? Yeah? Well,
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I mean we don't put enough respect on him to
give them their own name.
Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
You bring up a good point.
Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
There's another big foot, there's another big foot?
Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
Respect on their Well, I mean it's it's what if
they do talk?
Speaker 7 (01:09:03):
So, then like if if you are able to have
some sort of communication with them, do you be like
so do I call you a big or foot or
both of them together?
Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Like, what what do you tell you? That could get
a little weird. They might get a little nick name,
they could they could get at I mean, it's so
simple though. Even a caveman can figure that out. That's true.
That is true.
Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
No, no, and that's the commercials have told us that.
We've figured that out.
Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
As opinion, some of the best commercials of all times.
Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
I mean it's highly underrated when they first started, right, and.
Speaker 7 (01:09:36):
Even so much that they started to bring it back.
If you notice too, so you know when you got
something good, stay with it. All right, let's get into
a little bit of the Texans as the Texans made
a move earlier this week. But had anybody checked with
the guy that might be taking playing time away from
the other guy?
Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
We'll do that right here.
Speaker 7 (01:09:54):
It is Sean Salisbury show Sports Talk seven ninety the
seven o'clock hour, seven ninety listener line is presented by
one eight hundred car Cash. We've been talking about the
Nick Chubbs signing. We've been a huge fan of it,
and you wonder with the signing, how would Joe Mixon
feel about it?
Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Now?
Speaker 7 (01:10:12):
I had not seen said speculation. But I saw this
piece of audio as part of a Texans Twitter account
called Houston Stressens, and they had thrown out that there
was speculation that it had Irket mix in a little bit,
which I had not heard or seen. I don't think
any of us had seen or heard such a thing.
But Mixing was on the green Light podcast with Chris
(01:10:35):
Long and he was asked about the Chubbs signing, and
let's just say, if there was any of that speculation, well,
now it's been put to bed.
Speaker 10 (01:10:42):
There's going to be a major difference in our offense.
You know what I'm saying. I think that's something that
they've been missing. But Chubb, Chubb is the heart of
their team. And you know, I'm just thankful that my
man is back doing with he you know what he
always wanted to do. Yeah, I just love that about
him and I'm definitely one of his biggest supporters in
rooting for him.
Speaker 9 (01:11:03):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
So Joe Mixon a sign of the Texans bringing chubble board.
Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
So it's gonna make Joe better too. I mean, good
comp one is a great pros that I've been around.
Love competition. I'm not saying his jobs in danger. But
when you bring somebody in, it's human nature, especially a
good player, to say, oh, they think the room needs
to be upgraded. And it does. It's not just Joe Mixon.
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I've told you how much I think Joe Mixon. I
still think Joe Mixon is underrated and the whole scheme
of things, and I think he can even add another
element to the offense. So love him, but it does.
Good players love this stuff. Now, whether they have a
they don't like it. Nobody likes to be a veteran,
you know. I remember when Elway was a starting quarterback
in Denver and they drafted Tommy Maddox after like his
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sophomore year at UCLA in the first round, in the
first round. Or how Aaron Rodgers felt when Jordan Love,
even though you're a veteran, you're headed to the Hall
of Fame. I haven't shared this story. I had an
offensive lineman in San Francisco who started for the forty
nine ers in two or three of their Super Bowl runs.
It might have been three of them, and great guy,
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and I'll leave his name out, but we were sitting
at dinner, he and I and we were talking with
Sean do you do you really think that the only
reason Joe Montana came back quickly is because modern medicine
and because he's just a great player and wanted to
be back on the field. That's a big part of it. Well,
remember when Montana had back problems and guess who his
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backup was. It was Steve Young. And Steve Young played
great football and he's in the Hall of Fame too.
And Key, my friend had said, was talking about, you know,
the Steve and Joe situation. It wasn't a knock on
or a compliment on the other. It was just what
competition will do for you. And the fact that Steve
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Young was in the shadow waiting for an opportunity, and
when he did play played well. Said don't think for
a second that that didn't hurry up and speed up
the rehab. And I thought about it that even Joe Montana,
when I say insecurity, I mean and if I had
that insecurity of I'm a I'm Joe Montana, and I
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still the competition still moves you. Well, he comes back
and Joe's never lost the Super Bowl Game, He's MVP
every time he turn around. The guy's been It was
phenomenal great player, but even a guy like him and Elway,
the competition takes them to another level instead of shrinks them.
Joe Mixon, we know who the starting back is, but
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you're not bringing in a guy who's a hack. Nick
Chubb's a good football player and if he's healthy, he
was on the verge of being a great running back
in this league. He was a hell of a player.
So it helps the team. It makes Joe Mixon get
probably be able to have more production, possibly with less load.
It allows you to if Joe's banged up, for order
to go in there and play. So I think Mix
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is at the stage of security in his career. But
also you know knows what it does to enhance the
team and the goal for Joe, who doesn't have what's
got to be winning a championship and continuing to dominate
and get paid. But adding Nick Chubb, it doesn't take
away from Joe Mixon. It adds to him, and that's
what good ones realize. But it'll also bring out the
best in him. The good competitors like it, even though
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they won't tell you. They say competition is good and
it may bug them, but deep down they get it.
And they understand why the competition matters, and Joe Mixon
will be no different. This is a good get and
Joe Mixon knows this, and we may even see another
level of Joe Mixon after this.
Speaker 7 (01:14:39):
Here's hoping. Preservation and longevity. Those are two qualities that
NFL players want to have, because well, you want to
maximize as many years as you can get those huge paydays.
And Joe Mixon, as he is even further into his
Texans contract, trying to make sure he is able to
get another long term deal.
Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
In this league.
Speaker 7 (01:14:58):
All right, It's a group that Sean feels very very
passionate about and cares deeply for. Somebody has something to
say about them, and I want to see if Sean's
going to agree. We'll hear that right here. It is
Sean Salisbury show Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Let the celebration start, or Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
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Speaker 7 (01:15:23):
Sean, you are a proud USC trojan. You bleed, what
are the colors again? Cardinal and gold?
Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Is that is that?
Speaker 9 (01:15:30):
What it is?
Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
That's it? Okay, there you go, Cardinal and Gold.
Speaker 7 (01:15:33):
So you are a proud, proud SC trojan and needless
to say, it's been many years since we've looked at
USC's football program and we're able to say, yeah, they're
they're a competitor. Like I think we've had more hopes
than it actually reaching that expectation. I mean there were
at least for the second year of Caleb Williams. I
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guess there are people who thought, hey, maybe they could
be a playoff team. But really, ever, and it's the
mid to eight two thousands, SC football has kind of
been a little bit of an afterthought.
Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Is that accurate. I won't say afterthought, I'll say always
great offense, he didn't play much defense, so they have
afterthought would be you know, the sixty seventh or eightieth
best team in the country. But considering where you would
put SC normally, not a powerhouse right now. Absolutely they're
not a I mean powerhouse program. Obviously powerhouse team as
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we speak. No, you can't play finesse defense and be powerhouse.
But they'll always score with Lincoln Riley, So yes, it's different.
They're not in Georgia in Ohio State and LSU's class
right now, even though they should be.
Speaker 7 (01:16:41):
And another person agrees with you on that. Urban Meyer
on with Colin Cowherd talking about that exact thing, because
Cowherd brought up to the Vegas win total for SC
this year was seven and a half, and it was
a chance for Urban Meyer to kind of put the
target on Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 11 (01:17:00):
In Ohio State, Alabama, Texas, and you know, Florida. I
just I've always looked at USC as one of the
top five jobs in America. So I've got a lot
of respect for Lincoln Rilly and I never I promised
myself I would never call for jobs because I'm not
going to do that. However, when seven eight wins is
accepted USC, that's when you you know, I don't know,
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I don't agree with that. I think you take a
five hour you take a five hour net and drop
it on USC, and you see the best players in
the country. So I think this is the year the recruiting.
Here's a question about USC. They have the number one
recruiting class in the country right now. Should they have
that every year? I mean, USC is USC, and I
think they're gonna have a great year, and I think
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we're not after this conversation, But eight and five, go
eight and five at Ohio State and see where it happens, and.
Speaker 7 (01:17:48):
To localize it a little bit, Sean, I mean we
were saying the same thing until the last couple of
years of Steve Sarkisi and at Texas, where it was
what's going on over there? They've got all the resources
they've they've they've got the recruiting base to be able
to be successful and to be able to be a
playoff team. Four teams, twelve teams, doesn't matter. It's just
not happening over there. So I understand what he's saying,
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and I think he's one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
He's one. He's spot on. There's nothing he said that's
not correct. It is one of the five best jobs
because they can pay. It's a private school, they've got
a lot of money. They should have as good ANIL
program as there is on the planet collective because of
all the money they do have. I've been and this
is one thing about it is that people can never
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accuse me of accuse me a lot of things, of
never being a homer from my team. I root for them,
but I'm probably even more critical of them as I
would be our crosstown rival, simply because my expectations for
USC football is different. Higher and or Coach Meyer's right.
They should be a top five program every year. They
should be at the top. They should never be below
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three or four recruiting every year. That you know, sometimes
one year gets away from me and somebody jumps up
Georgia or LSU. But your recruiting base is ridiculous. And
it's not just in and around Los Angeles. Schools like Alabama,
Southern cal LSU can go into Texas, University of Texas
can go into California that are they can recruit nationally.
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There are certain schools that are really good that aren't
gonna they aren't going to get the national five star recruit.
But Lincoln Riley can go get the five the best
receiver in Florida, as can Steve Sarkisi in So Texas,
Southern Cal, Alabama, Ohio State and Michigan. I mean, they're yes.
When they're standing there, say what's five best jobs? SC's
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one of them. Now when people say, well it isn't now,
well it isn't now because you're looking at the success
of the program. It is when you look at the money,
the recruiting base, where they got the kid, they mean, everything,
everything about it is. They should be better. The Urbans
coach Meyer's one hundred percent correct. And shouldn't they be
there every year? Yes? And I can assure you eight
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wins should it's not It's not acceptable for alumni. And
it doesn't matter how good offense or how good Lincoln Riley,
all that looks. You don't make the playoff in the
next two years, they will find a new coach. I'm
just telling you they will. Even though offensive grew, they
got to win, and win doesn't mean just get in.
Win means you have a chance to do what Texas did.
Let me be playing for the damn thing. They will.
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Their alumni is powerful. They got a lot of money.
So eight and five, listen, you can't keep the job there,
and especially if in those that eight and five Ryan
Day's job was on the line. This year, couldn't beat
Harbaugh Michigan. They couldn't bet Michigan, and they all that
talent couldn't do it. He went and went and got one.
And Ryan Day's a good football coach. But think about this,
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there was a time during to see people were calling
for his job because he couldn't and sc if you
don't beat UCLA or Notre Dame, your rivals, and those
were the two Notre Dame and UCLA. If you go
eight and five or nine five, if you go win
ten games, but your losses two of them are to
Notre Dame. In UCLA, you're getting replaced three years down
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the road. You can't lose to Ohio State. If you're
in Michigan regularly, you will not keep the job. You
can't do that at SC either. Urban Myers one hundred
percent correct. You have got to you eight wins, nine wins,
ten wins is barely enough. Well, Sean, that's high expectations. Well,
it's the same expectations there as it is now at Georgia,
at Alabama, at LSU, at Southern cal, at Michigan, Ohio State,
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at Texas. There's eight ten programs and eight's not good enough.
And if they go eight wins two years in a
row or seven and a half wins two years row,
Lincoln Riley will not be the coach three years from now,
let alone two years from now. If this continues. He's
a good coach, But you gotta win at SC, just
like you do at Ohio State.
Speaker 7 (01:21:41):
And I think they run into a little bit of
what Miami has for some time. I remember talking with
Mark Rich a few years ago and he straight up
told me, he goes, it's hard, you know, to be
able to sell quote unquote the you to these kids
because it doesn't resonate with them, like Ray Lewis and
all those guys, they weren't even born yet.
Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
When these guys are play, they are right with Bush
and Liner and guys like that. Right, they don't know
who Brett Parrman is and he was a hell of
a player. Some may not even know about who Michael
Irvin is. He's nuts, but it's true. I go, yeah,
I think I Warren Sapp think about those rosters, and
they don't. There's plenty that have no idea that Matt
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Lioner was a quarterback, that Marcus Allen in the eighties
was one of the highest trophy. They don't. They don't
pay attention to the history of a lot of them.
And it's the same thing and recent history. So he's
one hundred percent correct. But you get those programs, you
gotta win. Eight wins is never enough. That's just you
just become a guy, and guys just being a guy
or just being getting by is not good enough. That
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the top ten programs are the top five, and Lincoln
Riley will not keep that job if they don't win
ten games that are in contention and make the playoffs.
You can't keep those jobs losing to good teams, and
he won't. I hope he does, because he's a good coach.
Speaker 7 (01:22:55):
Expectations they either get you fired or it's something to
work towards. And that's something that a lot of programs
are looking forward to this fall. All right, let's get
back into the Astros conversation here to fire up the
third hour of the show, because we finally got what
we wanted last night. We'll discuss it. It is Sean
Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 7 (01:23:58):
Texan's done with many training camp coming up in about
a month, we're gonna check him with our good buddy
Aaron Wilson here in a little over twenty minutes, as
he will recap the end of Mini camp, but also
to get us set up for what could possibly be
ahead for the Texans leading up to said camp and
the NBA Finals. Pacers up to one now on the
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Thunder in the series. They take Game three last night
in Indianapolis. Real quick here too. I'm sure a lot
of you have noticed driving around on your way to
work this morning, pretty soggy out there, so of course
every single break we've got traffic weather for you to
be able to hopefully get you to work safely. So
stay tuned here and please be safe out there on
the roadways this morning. But Sean Christian Walker the Astros
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last night they break out the lumber and they break
it out in a massive way. He's able to go
three for four, he knocks in four runs and the
Astros is a team fifteen hits en route to their
ten to two win.
Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Huge last night, he was big, You've been begging for it,
You've been asking for it and wanted one of those
where it was like okay, we're onto something. Then you
got it. A lot of guys got into the act
last night, and I think the thing that got it
the two things that stuck out the most from Gusto
on the mound pitching like he did one walk, seven
strikeouts and get into the sixth, and then the way
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that Christian Walker, well that the ball actually left the ballpark,
but was also favored him last night to his three hits,
So hit it hard and the data Brown had mentioned
he's been hitting it hard and been a little unlucky,
Well he was lucky and good yesterday. A blooper and
a couple of strong hits yesterday. And that's the Christian
Walker that sits in the middle of your lineup. Maybe,
just maybe last night is the springboard we'll see, but
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sustaining it's going to be the key. And if the
middle of the lineup hits, everything looks sexy. He is sexy,
and they'll play better and the feelings are better when
you do. But once again, a strong pitching performance and
the bullpen did their job well.
Speaker 7 (01:25:58):
I mean the feeling is also from the middle of
the order, because I mean that seemingly has been the
real sticking point for this team so far this year.
I mean you've had at times an inconsistent Jose al Tuve.
He gets a couple of hits last night. Mentioned it
earlier that he reaches career hit twenty three hundred for him,
so it's great to see that out of him.
Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Janar Diaz.
Speaker 7 (01:26:20):
I mean another guy that has this season probably been
overshadowed with his struggles with how bad that Walker has
been at times with his But he gets a couple
of hits last night, in a couple of times hits
the ball over one hundred and ten miles an hour,
so I mean he's at least putting good swings on
it too.
Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Your team's always going to be judged by the middle
of your lineup. Pitching in a million lineup, you're not
judging your team by the by your eight nine hitter.
You want them, they're the bonus. Like oh okay, guys,
sitting two eighty five or two ninety seven or three
h three is my eight or nine here? You're like,
oh man, everything must be. We're pretty good. But think
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of it, like I said, we said earlier, thirty eight
to thirty or thirty seven to thirty, you're sitting there,
is that right? Thirty seven and thirty right now, Dan,
am I right? Correct? Yeah, you're you're just under seventy
games if I this team is seven games above five
hundred and in first place, and where we're bummed because why,
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it's not kind of Jose has been inconsistent. He's got
his in bunches and struggled in bunches this year, but
we know who he is. But the walker, Yainer Diaz,
Jordan Alvarez for injuries and or production in the middle
of your life, it's not kind of that that is
the reason why people are bumped that that is the reason.
I mean we know al too ay, Like I said
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in bunches, Payne has played really good baseball. Paratus has
played consistent baseball and hit the ball out of the ballpark.
I mean you start to look at send some of
the pitching we know with the bullpen. Jake Myers has
been an incredible surprise. Some of these young players, and
the melt and the cam Smiths and the Dezenzos have
shown flashes of brilliance and consistency in certain areas, and
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camp Smith's starting to find his way. Yeah, we're still bummed.
Seven games above five hundred, Well, now flip it eight
and nine struggle. Maybe you're not getting you know, even
though you pain isn't so important. But let's just say
the three four and five, Jordon and Walker and Yiner.
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If that was your three four and five, which they
were going to be three four, five and six, somewhere
in there of those three guys were going to be
in those four slots. Okay, So let's say they start
doing they rate last Night indication and then Jordon's back
and being Jordon, but some of the other guys in
the back end lineup are struggling. Do you think our
woes are going to be as big and strong and loud.
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Absolutely not. Even though the production may e're like man,
the production in the middle lineup, we're they're still not
getting that clutch it. We may complain about it, but
you're far more secure and happy and feel great about
your team even if a pitcher was struggling a little. Oh, men,
are three four and five and in the middle of
our lineup, and you're gonna need them to get to
the world to do what you want to do. As
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Dana said yesterday, we are set up to win a
world series, not to go to win a World series.
A roster is put together to win a World Series.
It's just that some of that part of that roster
is not producing like a World Series team. And unfortunately
it's for the most part, as far as sustained consistency,
it's been in the middle of your lineup, and so
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it just heightens it when the middle of your It'd
be like if Fromber and Hunter Brown were struggling mightily,
but three four and five were pitching like Cy Young,
you know, we'd say, man, that's great, but what in
the hell is run? We'd be focused on what's going
wrong with our two aces at the top. It's the
same thing here. The periphery of the lineup's put pretty
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decent baseball man offensively pretty decent, and some have exceeded.
I mean pain is moving to the where he is
in the lineup and doing what he's doing. He is
elevated to a whole new level. And the Myers which
we've talked about, and some of these young players. So, yes,
when the middle of your lineup struggles, it feels like
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your whole team is miserable, and it's not the case.
There's seven games over five hundred and in first place.
So and if the opposite is true. We wouldn't be
feeling the struggle as much if three, four, and five
were playing like all stars and healthy and so that's
that's where you are. The key is they're finding ways
to win, even though it's not pretty and it's not
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by it's not like last night was pretty and it
was dominant. But you're getting good pitching in great bullpen.
Your frontline starters are playing well. The periphery of your
lineup is hitting, meaning the edges alls you need. And
I know it sounds so simple. From my vantage point,
is jord On to get healthy and those big boppers,
the Walker Yiner, Jordan Trio, if they get hitting. Who
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knows what the record is going to end up, but
I can tell you this, the comfort level for fan
base and media will be different. The optics will be different.
Even though the result may and wins and losses. Maybe
there's still only seven games or seven games about five hundred.
If if they flip and one's hot, three of those
guys are hot, the periphery isn't. It's just optics for us,
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and it feels better when your stars are When the
boppers are hitting the ball like they're supposed to, it
just does, and hell, I'll take it considering the lack
of consistent production from your big hitters, your home run hitters,
and even al Tuove. Now that's four guys. The inconsistent
part of it. Imagine that and your seven games, all
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the five hundred you have taken this six ways the
Sunday and twice on Sunday. If I have told you
this at the beginning of the year, that they were
going to be here and this is what it was
going to look like, you're damn right. But it will
feel different when those three get rolled, and regardless of
the other six.
Speaker 7 (01:31:55):
Guys in the lineup, and it's just it was the
prolonged struggles. I think what probably sticking with people me
included where it's just like, gosh, like how is it
that all of you at once are doing this? Like
how is it that all of you are the suit
store and my cousin Vinnie, you all have the flu
and we're having to go to court wearing tuxedos.
Speaker 4 (01:32:14):
That's what it pretty much was.
Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
I mean, it add that feeling to it, right and
you know what's gonna be a great day, And the
other side of it is at some point in time
all three are gonna mash. Don't know when or for
how long, but it will happen. It's too long a
season for it not to have it. And then we're
gonna say, man, this is glorious. Why then't The question
will be not that they're doing it? Why did it
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take so long? That that's just how we think, right,
But I can tell you this, and if you're Joe
Aspata and Dana Brown in the organization, you're kind of
standing on your toest thinking, Okay, the ball is my feet.
I know this is gonna happen. When Jordan gets back
and things get rolling, then what's this roster look like?
As long as pitching's healthy and holds up or gets healthier.
But those guys at the front and the bullpen does
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what they're doing right now. I mean, can you imagine
being just stay alive, just stay in it, and you're
thirty seven and twenty and that what a nice gig. Hey,
you're thirty seven to twenty. We're just asking you to
stay in it until everybody's healthy and gets hot. The
pretty good gig to be in first place when your
best players. How many teams in the league are in
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first place? Set in first place, and their best players
have played. When I say your best players, your home
run hitters, in the middle of your lineup has struggled
all year long, I can't think. I can't think of anything,
and you can't you won't. And you know what, when
your Baltimore Oil's lineup struggles, guess what. They fire their
manager and you're what, twenty games under five hundred or
(01:33:41):
whatever it is. You're like, what this is the Baltimore
Oils and all those young, great players. But think about that.
There's no team in Major League Baseball who, injury wise,
are production wise the middle of their lineup. They're big
home run hitters, boppers. There's seven games over five hundred
or more without those guys being consistent, productive, in quite
frankly in some cases in Christian Walker and jord On
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Alvarez shockingly inconsistent and shockingly unproductive this year or injured.
So there's nobody that can boast that right now, and
they're not boasting about it. But and there's seven games
over five hundred. It's gonna look really nice when those
guys you go, because they will at some point.
Speaker 7 (01:34:21):
All Right, we'll continue the Astros conversation here as We'll
have also Chris Gordy coming up top of the next hour.
We're gonna get into the Texans at the bottom of
this hour with Aaron Wilson, of course our Sports Talk
seven ninety Texans Insider. But coming out next this sports
if they go this route, would be making the absolute
right decision. We'll talk about it here. It is the
(01:34:42):
Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Buckle up The Sean Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
It's gonna be a hell.
Speaker 7 (01:34:55):
As we've been talking, just a little bit of golf
sprinkled in in between the Astros and the Texans and
a little bit of college football. But a report out
there that the PGA Tour is going to have a
newly formed CEO role and that a clear favorite to
take over that role is the NFL Chief Media Officer,
Brian Rolap. And that's not necessarily the story of this,
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but the story is this is the PGA Tour looking
at their overall product and saying, we got to do something, man.
Speaker 4 (01:35:25):
Because here's an example.
Speaker 7 (01:35:27):
I'm watching the end of that tournament last week in
Canada and it's the playoff between Sam Burns and I
don't even remember who the other guy is there's so
many times this year where it's, oh, it's Sunday, all right,
well there's a tournament finishing up somewhere.
Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Ryan Fox or something.
Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
I think it was like pretty sure, Yeah, yeah, it
came down.
Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
He came from behind, and Sam had the lead and
had already posted his score, and then he birdied and
then beat him in extra holes.
Speaker 9 (01:35:53):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it was it was a nice win.
Speaker 7 (01:35:56):
But I mean, but the point that I'm getting to is,
I mean, there's so many times I watched these Yes,
you're right, it was Ryan Fox, but I don't even
know who Ryan Fox is. I barely know who Sam
Burns is. The Only thing I know about him is
that he played golf at LSU. Okay, fine, that's cool.
But I mean, how many times do we watch tournaments
this year and you see that and it's, oh, hey,
they're playing at the Byron Nelson. Oh, who's in the lead,
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Wyndham Clark, Hey can you go to home depot? Yeah,
no problem, Hey who's in the lead, Tiger? He's up
by two with about five holes to go, Hey can
you go to home depot?
Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
Not right now?
Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
Right then? You gave me I get it and having
the ROMs and the Brooks kept because every single week
on tour, you know, the live Golf I mean Cam
Smith and Joaquin Neeman has won like four times there.
If you had the fourteen or fifteen players from Live
there there, then you have the best in the world
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every week. And I know we don't have the best
in the world every week because some of those guys
aren't playing on it. I get that, But when have
you heard about golfer that aren't stars anyway? You're always
going to talk about there's the outlier, there's woods, there's woods,
but we've been through, I mean there's woods. Now you're
talking about generational purse, changing, sponsor changing youth golf, changing
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Major changing. Tiger walking on half on one leg and
a half when he was beat up so bad is
people will watch him. They'd rather watch him at times
go ten over but grind it out than they would
a guy, a young player you've never heard of win
a tournament. You're right, that's what we call him, being
a needle mover. But that is one dude that has
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completely changed the landscape of what we do in the
PGA Tour. The reason why you can make four million
bucks on a non major, but it's like a select
event for them. That guy, okay, so now put him aside. Okay, him, Michelson, mcelroys,
and they were competing against each other. You can name
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a handful more even during Woods time, maybe the top
ten players in the world during Tiger Woods. Once you
get by Phil Mickelson and him, you start to scramble.
Then all of a sudden, the rom group comes along,
and the Koepka group. Okay, even Brooks Koepka. And this
may be more value, but when he was winning five majors,
when he was on a PGA tour, Kepka wasn't a
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big enough star, which is crazy because the guy's a grinder.
He is a hell of a talent, but they didn't
publicize it. Kind of like hockey. You know a couple
hockey players. I mean I watched, I may know more,
but some people don't know the stars and hockey, they
don't promote him. But in truth, do you want new guys?
We always want new blood playing golf, and then when
they're winning, we don't want to watch. And I get
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it because it won't matter Tiger Woods. In this final
group at the Oakmont even though he's not going to
be competing at Oakmont, Tiger Woods at Oakmont, with a
win or a fifth place, he's finished, we'll bring more
attention than Scheffler winning it. And the reason Scheffler's dominant.
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Scheffler's playing as well as anybody on the planet, like
at times when Tiger was at his best. Scheffler's playing
like that. Here's the problem Scotty Scheffler. And I don't
mean this disrespectful to him. He's he's a nice guy.
He's he's kind of he's kind of When I say boring,
I don't mean but I'm sure he's fun in life.
But on the golf course he's got his grind. He'll
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smirk once in a while. He's got his grind. Tiger's
grind was different. He wasn't talking to you, it was
just it was just different. Scheffler's playing as well as
Woods did. The problem is, and he's so consistent. The
problem is there there there the ups and down that
there was just something, there's something missing from the star
power that just yet, Scotty Scheffler should be increasing personally.
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Guy's a great player and seems like a great guy.
So we could say Woods, but in truth, what when
have we had add outside your top fifteen? Unless you're
a guy like me or who watches the PGA Tour,
the John Deere Classic, I'll turn in on Sunday and
Saturday and watch it, but on the Major, I don't
want to miss any of it. So golf nerd so
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but in truth, outside of Woods and Nicholas back back
then when there's more person and Nicholas and Palmer and
Chee Chee Rodriguez and Lee Trevino and all that, and okay,
but since you've been born and watched golf, when have
you been interested in the tournament? Tiger wasn't in anyway
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in truth, if you're if you're just an average fan,
you're like golf when Tiger Woods went, but you're not
tuning in to watch Ryan and last week was the
hell of an event. Burns had Fox birdies and they go, okay,
So so you don't know and I know Sam Burns is,
I know who Ryan Fox is, I know who uh
uh you know Spawn is and I know who you
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know who Brooks kept kids. And it's not a pat
on the back because I walk. But I'm gonna watch anyway.
But I am. I like you, I was more intrigued
with Tiger playing it Augusta than I was. When you know,
maybe the last time you've been that intrigued with Rory
winning it the way he won it was a trip.
Imagine if Tiger want it the way Rory did, and
he completed the Grand Slam and it was big, and
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it was publicized, and he missed a putt and had
to go back and make it. It was great theater,
phenomenal If that was Woods, that had been triple the theater.
And we all know that even though it was McElroy
and people love him too. You either love or hate Rory,
but that's what you need of the tour. And we
loved the Mickelson Woods perceived feud and all that stuff.
But the way Tiger handled I don't know, and it
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just it's different. But you said, you're exactly right. But
does a PGA tour really have a problem. The biggest
problem they have is not being able to come to
a decision and the persons, and I know they're controlling,
they don't give players the chance to go out and
do their thing and make money the way. That's why
LIV came about, and players left. They don't want PGA
tours all controlling and stuffy at times, doesn't want to
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let the players branch out and do the things they want.
I get that, but in truth, the number one thing
they need is all the players to be playing against
each other every week. But what's different now than Scotti?
Scheffler's not Tiger Woods when it comes to all the
way we talk about him, but his golf game is,
but you still don't watch it the same. So you
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told me Woods, well, who else did you know when
Tiger Woods outside the top ten? Did you know who
the seventy fifth player was? No, you knew who Tiger
Woods and a hand the best the top ten, and
you were watching more when Woods was playing just like that.
But he was a needle mover, and we don't have
that right now, even though we got guys who are
needle moving golf. Scotty Scheffler hits shots that no human
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beings should be hitting. Right. He does it every week,
all day long, all the time, overcomes a bad shot
with fifteen straight good ones. But there's something personality wise,
just the buzz that we don't get. And in truth,
even if all the live guys were over here and
you're Keopka and Ram and they play the majors, You're
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still not gonna know who JJ Spahn is if Woods
comes back, You just don't. So what is their problem?
Purses are bigger than ever. All the great ones aren't
playing against each other every week we need we're missing
the guy who you know, We've tried to force feed
guys to be that. But even if Kopka goes and
wins five more majors, are you still as intrigued with
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Keopka as you are with Woods? Probably not? Absolutely, not right,
So what is the depth of the thing. There's good golfers, dude,
one hundred and twenty fifth golfer. That's why we have
so many new young players winning every week. Every year
there's like ten new players won for the first time
and you never heard of them. But they're good players.
But there's some pizzazz missing the PGA Tour for whatever reason,
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stuff or whatever reason. It's not the lack of good players,
it's the lack of personalities and rivalries. We don't have them.
Who's Chefer's rivalry? McElroy, But they like each other and
Scotty is such a good guy. You kind of want
somebody to be the villain, and who is that? Well,
I mean, Heepko was kind of that. Deef Schambeau had
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a little bit, but he's got turned into the nice guy.
De Chambau's as fan friendly as anybody in the world
when it comes to golf. So that's why. And so
the problem is personalities. The problem being great golf. These
dudes are throwing balls into places that you you're hitting
at three sixty, flipping pitching wedges on it, you're hitting
eight iron into a par five. I watched t Chambeau.
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I know it's different for their clubs when you're hitting
eight iron two twenty to seventeen. Come on, dude, we're
talking a whole different stratosphere of player and equipment personalities.
It ain't about the golf, it's about the personalities.
Speaker 7 (01:44:47):
Yeah, you want the two to be able to marry
up the personality and also the talent. And some guys
have the talent. You just want a little bit more
from the other side. All right, Texan's done with Mini
camp and training camp is ahead.
Speaker 4 (01:44:59):
What is next for them?
Speaker 7 (01:45:00):
In the meantime, we'll talk that with our Sports Talks.
Seven ninety Texans insider Aaron Wilson joins the show right
here Sports Talk seven ninety. The seven ninety listener line
in the eight o'clock hour is presented by one eight
hundred car Cash Aaron Mini caamp As I just mentioned
in the rear view mirror, and we finally got on
Tuesday the answer to the question, we'll see J Stroud throw?
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So how nice is it to no longer have that
story to chew on?
Speaker 9 (01:45:28):
Yeah, it was just really a non story to me.
I reported first that it was just shoulder tightness he
had from weightlisting and throwing. So I understand why I
got lead out of proportion because of you know, there
was a lack of clarity from the team. So that's
why I did some digging in a couple of days
(01:45:52):
after the first non answer just reported that And yeah,
I just told us exactly correct from four different people. Trust.
So I don't think it really should have been speak deal.
It's all magnified because it's the NFL, it's CJ Stroud.
I totally get it by it becomes a something. It
takes on life Zone. But some of the conspiracy theorists
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and the fact that some people speculated that he'd had
shoulder surgery. It was just ridiculous. The guy was throwing.
And there's even videos from the team where they're having
these informal sessions weeks before, so it wouldn't stay quiet
at all if a dark quarterback like that has a
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procedure done, it's just really kind of defies logic. But yeah, no,
I think it's good for the team to see in
trouble because this is valuable time for him to build
that rapport. And we saw all down display like that
one handed sideline catch by Jayden Higgins and a nice
throw by CJ. And we saw him connecting and building
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his rapport again with Kate Stover, who I think has
had a good spring overall. I thought he looked great.
It's just really.
Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
Is.
Speaker 9 (01:47:03):
He explained it really well. He's been making some games.
I mean, look at his body. He looks different. He
looks at the trimmer, a little leaner, muscle tissue. He
wants to be able to run a little faster. I
think some of this is pride, and you know how
he looks his appearance too. I mean I think overall
all that stuff and yeah, I'm not worried about CJ.
It wasn't worried about CJ just so like all along,
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I think I was shooting jumpers at some event. It's
just I don't know why people are worried about this,
but people overreact to everything, and that's part of the
intense interest. And that's good because that means we have
an audience.
Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
Aaron. We all have our opinion on why Mini caamp
is or isn't important. I think it is on the
mental side and getting put in the library in so,
in your opinion or maybe even in the Texans opinion,
what's the most important thing you gathered from mandatory mini camp.
Speaker 9 (01:47:59):
I think it always will go back to the offensive line,
because that's the one thing that might keep this talented
team from going further. So the fact that they're starting
to bill a starting five with a few active competitions
within that group, I think that's significant. Just about fifteen
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minutes a guy got a call about Jack Andrews, the
new projected starting center and kind of how that's going
so far. I'm hearing that they're very very happy about
Jake and what he's doing so far. So that's important.
I mean, I don't think there's anything really more significant
than the offensive line, and that's going to be a
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recurring storyline heading into training camp and won't know until
early the season did they do enough? They you know,
really done a good job with overhauling all of them
to coaching Nicole Popovich and the hand he has as
a Dantine Scarneki protege in fixing the office floorer.
Speaker 7 (01:49:04):
Aaron Wilson again seven ninety Insider covering the Texans in
the NFL, joining us here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
We've talked a lot about the addition of Nick Chubbs.
Saw him for a couple of days. But as this
running back group goes, what does that mean for Damian Pierce?
And when it's all said and done, when the fifty
three is determined, how many do you think they're gonna
roll with this year?
Speaker 9 (01:49:27):
Yeah, I'd say in terms of pure backs, you're gonna
have Damian a part of it. Unless there's some true
opportunity comes up across their dad square, it makes sense
to trade him and I expect him ready for training
camp so that what he's doing with right now isn't
that serious. They just sure being careful with him, But
(01:49:47):
I interiate, you know, look at the backs you know
what he marks, we'll be here. You're going to have
the starters, Joe Mixon and now Nick Chubb is the
primary backup, and you know Piers to the kick on.
He's a good kickoff returner. He adds some value in
that area and you can play running back when you
need him to. But obviously they've upgraded. Even with if
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Nick Chubb is like seventy five to eighty percent of
his old self a couple of years away from that
knee injury, you've added a lot. But the numbers we received,
do they keep the full back looks like they might.
And the way Kaylee builds out his offense. You know,
he coached James dabblin a long time. He was a
really good fullback of the Patriots. That was part of
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his job. So yeah, he this guy thinks about the
full back and I could see all those guys making it.
Dario Gamale, I just don't. I mean, you might have
to cut some guys like British Brooks and to harj
Ordon that's his numbers, but I don't think you care
have to cut significant out of these bags. They've got room.
Speaker 1 (01:50:50):
I'm curious, Aaron, Well, not curious. It seems to me
that it's a loud sledgehammer to the head that adding
Nick Chubb and obviously with the change and coaching staff
on offensive line, that they're trying to send a message
that we are going to be more physical on offense.
The finesse will take care of itself. The physical Adam Hubb,
we are going to knock you around. That The physicality
(01:51:11):
is a big part of who they want to be.
Speaker 9 (01:51:15):
Exactly if you go back to how physical sometimes the
Rams and the Patriots are, where Nick Canley has that background,
they are trying to build it out in that style,
which is downhill and having two in it built differently. Obviously,
Joe was more of a tall glider, but he still
can lower the boom at two thirty and you've got
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a shorter compact two hundred twenty seven pounder. So if
you're a linebacker, it's not a lot of fun to
play against the Texans. And you know you've got some
big boys in the offensive line. I mean you look
at Titus Towers, a guard, you know, big strong guy,
You've got cannon experience. You got a bigger center, not
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as tall as Patterson, but stronger physically in Jake Andrews.
So overall I'm looking at the line, I see like
a little bit more size, especially if Ursury if he
should beat out at any point Cam Robinson or Blake Fisher.
It's a very big offensive line. It's a physical, robust
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kind of football they want to play. I mean it
doesn't extend just as the trenches, but when you have
two Twin Towers and six or four wide receivers that
are both sizeable guys that can kind of bully some
of these defensive backs, I think you know they're Bill
Parcels used to say this about big guys beating up
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little guys. There's some concepts like that within the offense
where they're just bigger and more physical and it's harder
to compete with. And I just didn't think the offensive
line sometimes last year and the whole offense sometimes they
were the nail.
Speaker 1 (01:52:59):
Not the hammer.
Speaker 9 (01:52:59):
If you will.
Speaker 7 (01:53:01):
Eron Wilson here, sorry, eron Aaron joining us here on
the Sean Salisbury Show. Final one from me. We're about
a month away from training camp. Do you anticipate many
other moves being made or do you feel like this
is gonna be the group of ninety that we're gonna
see there when they hit camp.
Speaker 9 (01:53:17):
Yeah, they're going to add a corner. They are right
now weighing which corner they'll add. One of the corners
that they've auditioned. What's from the east Roughnecks name in Ournett,
who's had an all feeld problem, seems to be on
the right track now from everyone I've talked to, and
he was here this week for a workout, and that
is still an ongoing conversation. They're also looking at another
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you're free agent in Duke Shelley worked out and Keenan Isaac.
So yeah, they're gonna keep looking for a corner of place.
Ronald Darby's looks for that to happen.
Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
Real quick before you go, what's the one thing forget
the physicality, what's the one thing offensively it'll look different
for us? I mean, how they line up similar verbiage obviously,
what do they what is it going to look differently
other than the physicality on the perimeter aggressive, Yeah, all
that stuff to get to give them.
Speaker 9 (01:54:12):
That that's as far as a wrinkle. Yeah, So that's
something where I think that deepens has got to beat
on what Bobby slogans are doing because they weren't moving
around enough but pre sting a motion. And again it's
just some concepts that they do with the Rams and
Sean McVay. This is something that Josh McDaniel did. You know.
They're going back and watching like old Tom Brady stuff
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with Stroud from two thousand and three, two thousand and
four of them on the way back. So I look
for them to be a very game time, a specific
type of offense that changes a lot on the fly.
And really it's just as much as the players can
handle and absorb, you know, because we're talking about obviously
the Brady's and the Staffords very experienced quarterbacks. TJ's a
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sharp kid, and I think the autonomy, that's the other thing.
Changing protections to the freedom. So those are two big
things I look for. I answer two things, the motion
and stroud ability to just change the protection if he
sees something, change the play if he needs to. So
they're empowering Stroud and of course this means extra work.
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This is what he wanted and he asks for this
so and I think he can handle it just fine.
This should be more Stroud's offense, not just the offense
Cordator's offense, if that makes sense for sure.
Speaker 7 (01:55:30):
Aaron Wilson, he joins us here on the Sean Salisbury
Show football season. He'll join us every single week. And
Aaron enjoyed the time off four training camp hits and
we'll talk to you.
Speaker 9 (01:55:40):
Soon, be talking to you guys.
Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
You guys have a good weekends.
Speaker 7 (01:55:44):
I appreciate it. Aaron Wilson joining us. One thing he
said right there, Sean, that I think we can chew
on on the other side. But also to the textans
seem like there's not a ton of questions. That's not
the case everywhere. We'll get into a little bit of
NFL here as we close out our three of The
Shawn Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
Why you're back, this is the Sean Salisbury Show, get
back at it.
Speaker 4 (01:56:10):
This is CJ.
Speaker 7 (01:56:11):
Stroud's offense, not just the offense. And then immediately just
goes to thinking, oh, okay, that's what got J. That's
what got Bobby Slowick out of here, is because there
was the reports out there of disagreements and a little
bit of frustration whatever it might be, but rigidity is
not a way to be able to keep your job
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in this business, especially with quarterbacks. And that's what it
sounds like is what went out at the end of
this is the quarterback not happy with the OC.
Speaker 4 (01:56:40):
That means the OC is not here.
Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
Yeah, well, and make sure that you This just gives
you a chance to extend your bandwidth for a good player,
maximize his skill set. And I don't think they did
that enough. Bobby Bobby Slow, it's a good coach, but
unfortunately rookie wise, after his rookie year, it felt to
me like Abus Slow it got a little bit too
complacent on let's protect this as opposed to maybe the
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fact that he didn't trust an offensive line or didn't
trust what was going on. So they got a little
bit overly protective in what they did in the process.
They didn't protect the quarterback, but they got overly protective
in the way they attacked and the aggressiveness they went
about it. I fully expect them to be more aggressive offensively.
I expect them to be more multiple formations wise, And
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that's why I asked the question of what are they
going to do different? It's a novel concept. The motion
allows you to dictate coverage. Why do you think they
went back and studied Brady Well Brady's good and Kaylee
has history with New England, but they studied Brady because
Brady will tell you the main reason he knew most
of the time pre snap where he was going with
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the football, which allows you to anticipate and get the
ball out quicker and get the ball out on time.
And CJ's a young player and they're going to give
him latitude at the line of scrimmage. Why in the
world wouldn't I give my quarterback walking to the line
of scrimmage. They got five guys over here and three
guys over here, just on a sheer numbers game. But
we call the play and guess they guessed right. We're
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running a toss sweep into a strong safety blitz. Great
idea check out of it. The freedom and latitude to
see something you like, if it's judicious and smart, to
get me out of a bad play into a better one.
Why would I play uphill too many? You see it
all the time, and that's a big problem with young quarterbacks.
They're all snapping their head to the sideline, the coordinators
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calling all the plays up until they're the ball snap,
and they don't understand coverage. They don't even know what
cover two is half the time. In these highs, they
don't they don't study it. Coach says, go here and here,
and they get to college like damn, and they're still
doing the same thing. By the time they get the NFL,
they're behind. It's an Alva concept to put the ball
in your quarterback's hand and allow him to get to
a play that he That doesn't mean you want to
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have seventy five audible checks. But with this, here's the
compliment to this. If you don't like running strong, go
opposite and run it the other way. The numbers game,
you can't take that out of a quarterback's hand. Rookie
or ten year guy. They've got to know enough and
study enough to know how to get me out of
bad place. And then the motion the reason they study
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Brady and pre snap read. For the most part, some
are doing a little less of motion. They follow and
they still play zone. But prestap motion allows you if
I'm running motion. Let's say I'm motion mixing out of
the backfield and nobody runs with him, Well, coverage you
think it is, it's gonna be zone. Nobody's running with him,
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so already pre snap. Now my quarterback knows. Okay, I'm
not sure if it's going to be covered three sky
or three buzz, but I know it's covered three or
I know they're playing zone. Now I got a head start.
If they run with mixing and it's the linebacker that
runs with him, what do you think it is? The
majority of the time they're playing man coverage. Now, you
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just got to figure out the matchup you like. And
is it blitz man where I gotta throw hot? We
have enough to block all those things. But that's part
of the bandwidth of an offense.
Speaker 4 (02:00:04):
To me, there is.
Speaker 1 (02:00:05):
Nothing more weak and scared And what do they say,
scared money don't make money, Scared play calling don't make it. No,
you got to be smart when you got to lead.
You're not gonna throw thirty times with a two touchdown
lead with two minutes to go. But I got motion,
I got multiple formations. I'm just attacked. I'm on the attack.
Oh you mean I can dictate coverage, yes, and so
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that's why you do it. Standing stationary all the time
is just kind of a I don't trust my team.
We'll do this. Some guys can't get off press coverage.
I would want to know and I always did as
a quarterback. The sooner, I can react to the coverage.
I know the conflict of the defense. The quicker, I
can give you an answer to the test. The quicker,
the ball comes out the quicker. We're doing things the
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quicker temple we set. They're chasing us. We're not letting
them dictate the temple. That's the offense I want, and
I'm assuming that's the level they're going to get to.
But I am a multiple formation. I would motion and
shift in formation eighty five percent of the time unless
we're going on quick count, lineup quick count and just
go and get ready because they're on their heels. Motion,
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give me a give me the advantage. I want to
put you in the difficult advantage. And if you motion
across and somebody steps up on the line of scrimmage
and he doesn't go with you, there's a pretty good
chance that backside safety is blitzing you from the off
side off the slot. So it just gives you a
better advantage. And more motion and more multiple with formations
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and motions and personnel groupings give you a better chance,
especially when the quarterback can handle it. I think it's
a brilliant move and I think, aside from the physicality,
that has to be a priority for them this year.
Speaker 7 (02:01:43):
Being proactive as opposed to reactive usually is what wins out,
and the Texans looking to do that in twenty twenty five. Right,
let's get back into the Astros conversation here top of
the fourth hour of the show. Because trust was given
and trust maybe earned last night. We'll talk about it here.
It is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
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the great performance out of the Astros offense. That was
great to see ten runs, fifteen hits, and you get
Christian Walker going.
Speaker 4 (02:05:08):
That's nice.
Speaker 7 (02:05:09):
But on the pitching side, something that we've been giving
in tons of praise to because for good reason, they've
been outstanding this year for the most part across the board.
But Ryan Gusto had been one of those question marks
and last night he at least had a strong answer
of well, this is what I can do if I
find the strike zone.
Speaker 1 (02:05:31):
Oh, I thought you were getting my bad I thought
you were getting ready to play some sound. Are you
are you asking me? Yeah? Are you asking me how
I felt about that? Consistently?
Speaker 4 (02:05:40):
Yes, yes, you are the sound.
Speaker 1 (02:05:42):
Okay. I think Ryan Gusta was outstanding last night, And
as I've said earlier in the show, I believe fully
that he understands the situation. And as people start to
get healthy, it's okay to go out and think you're
pitching for your livelihood, meaning you're starting job. The guy's got,
the guy's going to be a really good pitcher for
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this team, and defining his role right now. I mean
he's trying to define himself, so the definition is not
going to come from somebody else, is going to come
from him. And performances like last night and mixed with
obviously the offensive firepower they put out there make his
job easier. But he pitched well enough to win a
three to two game, a four to two game in
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a tight game, didn't walk but one and struck out seven,
was pretty damn sharp, scattered some hits, But that's the guy.
If you have in the back end of your starting rotation,
that life's going to get better. And for him, every
time he goes out there, he realizes the evaluation of
their trust in him, and he validated Joe Spott his
belief in him last.
Speaker 7 (02:06:42):
Night and the time before last, at least a couple
of times before last when he faced the Tampa Bay Rays,
he went He went three and two thirds in that start,
and I remembered at the time Sean Chandler Rome asking
Joe spot a point point, can you continue to do
this where you're not getting at least five innings out
of this guy, or at least getting him through the
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fifth inning at that point, see if we can go further,
And Joe said, yeah, we're gonna trust him're gonna run
him out there.
Speaker 4 (02:07:09):
We're gonna stick with our guy.
Speaker 7 (02:07:10):
And then a similar question asked after the start against
the Pirates when they lost three to nothing. And last
night I think you saw that trust kind of play out.
And I think another thing that can't be underscored here
is even though you score, you hold Chicago scoreless there
at in the top of the first being able to
go back out there with a lead at least takes
some pressure off of him.
Speaker 1 (02:07:30):
Of course it does. It's anything. As a quarterback, I
was one of those guys always kind of liked when
our defense started a game and they had the first possession,
and get us a score, or get him backed up,
or get a stop and we get the ball midfield.
That's a win. Now you're going into your first series
a little different. Now some light you know, it wasn't
a bad thing getting the ball going down to scoring
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and boom put it on him. But I kind of
had the feeling, let's go out there, set the tone,
punch him in the mouth, and then it just makes
your job easier. And in the case of a pitcher,
it's the same thing. They post you some runs to start.
It's now you're pitching a little more free. You're not
afraid to make the one mistake even though and if
you do, you can overcome it. You're pitching more aggressive,
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You're attacking zones of the way you want to as
opposed to, you know, kind of getting cute name in
a baseball I mean it's it's a quarterback and basically
it's so many similarities and the mental approach on a rend.
Got a pitch to pitch, throw to throw, play to
play basis and so yeah, and the same thing. If
you're a bullpen and you've got starting pitching, knowing you're
getting into the sixth inning and maybe beyond it. Sure,
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lets those guys, I'll be fresh legging. It's gonna be good.
I only have to give you two outs today, only
got to give you one inning. We don't have to
go through the fifth, the sixth, the seventh, the eighth,
the ninth. It's a good thing. And all the specialization.
Hell yeah, and you just anything you do once the
bonus is in the bank. It doesn't mean you get complacent.
When the bonus in the bank, there's a little bit
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of perk to your confidence. Oh I got that before
I start with that great man. That first day it
works will be awesome. You go out and pitch, you
you got runs posted. You take care of your business,
it's a really good thing and it freezes up. Doesn't
mean it's always successful, but there is a different mentality
that you can go to the mound with or get
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into the huddle with. When you've got a score that's
posted in your favor, there's no question.
Speaker 7 (02:09:22):
Well, and it's also you talked about pitching for his job.
I mean, it's not like you know it's mission accomplished
and he's going to be staying in the rotation.
Speaker 4 (02:09:31):
I mean, you still got the trade deadline coming up
next month.
Speaker 7 (02:09:34):
I've talked about it that you would be just fine
being able to go out and get a fifth starter
or somebody that can get you into the fifth and
can get you maybe a five and a third maybe
every once in a while quality outing. But you're just
looking for innings out of those guys. I mean, that's
still kind of the burden to proof. With Ryan Gusto,
there's no question.
Speaker 1 (02:09:54):
And it'll be they'll be looking. Now it's one where
he gets into the sixth. Now the next start, you
can do the same thing, the repeat factor and rense
and repeat and do it again. They know he's got
good stuff and he's a good picture. It's the length
and adding to it. Now, that doesn't mean we just
want you to eat up innings but give up nine runs.
What is keeping you in there? And it's it's it's
you know, just to just to let you eat up
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innings at times, I know that matters, but quality innings
and last night was a quality start frame. He pitched
well and gave his team a legitimate chance on the
mound and then they just you know, over extended the
lead by making it putting it out of reach, and
then the bullpen came and do you know comes in
and does the rest. So yeah, it's a And if
you're a bullpen, as I mentioned, not only are you fresh,
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but imagine if you're coming in the seventh inning with
a ten to two lead, with a ten to one lead,
with a seven to three lead, with a seven to
one lead, don't walk the first hitter and just to
take care of your business and and get and throw
strikes and get people out your your approach there. So
it's a collateral thing. I mean, you know, there's collateral damage,
but there's also that permeates through the good stuff and
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it's like, oh okay, I also have a six run lead,
seven run lead, I can pitch a little more freely
and do my thing. And so Gusto did his job
last night. And when we say pitching for his job,
it's not like he's there's a DFA around the corner.
It's simply you want to stay in the rotation, keep
giving us innings and keep giving us quality starts. Make
it miserable on me to pull you out of that rotation.
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And last night was a good one for him, but
the next one will be just it's not more important
to say, Okay, he did it once, do it again,
get us into the sixth inning. Can you get to
the seventh inning? And if he can continue to build that,
everything else becomes simpler, even if you're hitting the ball
average at the plate, which they didn't do last night.
They came out smoking last night.
Speaker 7 (02:11:38):
And it's also I mean, in the theme of you
know you talking about preserving the bullpen, I mean you've
got now tonight's and going forward, eleven straight games and
eleven straight days, so I mean you're probably going to
need those guys a little bit more. And you got
Fromber going tonight, So with any luck, you'd be able
to go two days in a row of being able
to preserve some guys there in the bullpen.
Speaker 1 (02:12:02):
There is no doubt about it. And my guest tonight
is if you're the bullpen, while you're always ready, I
would think that you would expect we may not have
to have a whole lot of early work. I'm going
to suggest or give you a futures that ain't nobody
going to be warming up in the bullpen in the
fourth inning tonight? Okay? With fromber on the mound, this
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is one of those who say, man, let's get some
length that you stay ready. But I think you feel
pretty comfortable with the way this guy pitches and the
way he's going right now that you're going to get
not only a quality start, but a lot of innings
that he's going to chew up tonight. And I would
fully expect this to be a series win for them
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with him going to the to the mount. He's been
damn good as last five or six starts.
Speaker 4 (02:12:51):
No question about it.
Speaker 7 (02:12:53):
And here's hoping you continue that theme again here tonight,
or at least that trendah one of those tea words.
Speaker 4 (02:13:00):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (02:13:01):
But anyway, Astros and White Sox coming your way a
little bit later on tonight six o'clock Astros on deck
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basketball than they played ten years ago, years ago. There's
talented players. There's nothing to do with well, could Lebron
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isn't better. I'm not that the players may be more talented.
Players aren't better. They got more access to talent and
film and all that stuff, and training and all that,
but they're not better. Players tremendously talented. It's not a
better game. It's just not, it's a worse game considering
(02:17:33):
all that goes on in load management. You ain't the
doctor j ain't having load management. Dude, Well that's an
old head saying no, it's actually not. It's a fact.
They're just not load management. Even when guys who've played
back then still like the current game. I like the
current game, I don't love it. Like the current game.
I like what I think, whether what I see the
rockets doing. But Lebron once again talking Lebron. So Lebron's
(02:17:54):
basically saying, you're not real sure when they're When the
broadcasters are talking about a game, it should all be
all good all the time, regardless. And here's a guy
who wants them to watch what they say or check
them on what they say. He doesn't even check himself.
So what's he talking? I mean, there's plenty of times
he's overloaded his mouth of his ass. Okay, So and
it is not it's your job as a broadcast. Now,
(02:18:17):
do I think some the hot takes so I think,
are what Lebron's talking about? Yeah, probably I would. I
would assume if he's talking about broadcast. But you're right,
it's not our job to do their pr work at
at sure second, not our job to tell them they're
playing great basketball, win in a finals or in the
first round of the playoffs. Teams are getting beat by
fifty by forty, save it. The quality of basketball is
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not better. The talent's there, the quality of the game,
and there is a huge difference. And we're at a
time when you can get a series away, a game away,
two games away from the NBA Finals, and you fire
the coach. Okay, so, and if Lebron doesn't like he
as a coach right now, if Lebron wanted JJ Reddick out,
you know what happened to you, he would not be
(02:19:02):
the coach. So, you know, I think people also the
part of the PR is the people are a bit
fed up with I mean, some may not be, but
I think the majority of the world is fatigued by
player empowerment in that league. It's spoiled, it's entitled. Doesn't
mean they're not good, doesn't mean all of them are,
(02:19:23):
doesn't mean it's every day, but there's a different approach
in the way they go about it. I don't know
any job that allows you to say somebody spends one
thousand dollars on a family of five at a game
to go get hot dogs, a beer, a soda, cotton candy,
buy a hat for your kid, and sit in decent
seats and then find out before the game the guy's
tired because he can't go back to back. The Joe
(02:19:44):
LM beads a little sore from the game two days ago.
And so I got a great idea, how about make
it better for the fans. Make it better for the fans. Maybe,
just maybe. That permeates to the broadcast, which permeates to
the ratings, which permeates to the what do you want?
I mean, we got great basketball. We got two really
good teams this year and some really talented players playing
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in it. You ain't watched fifteen minutes of it?
Speaker 4 (02:20:09):
Have you talking about finals? The NBA Finals?
Speaker 1 (02:20:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (02:20:13):
No, I mean I've I've watched it closer than I
did the rest of the playoffs. The rest of the playoffs,
I couldn't have cared. But for this one, I knew
it was going to be decent enough. If it's not
a conflict with the Astros, then yeah, Like I watched
most of the second half of night.
Speaker 1 (02:20:25):
But just going by you said, you weren't watching the
playoffs once the Rockets were eliminated, right, which you said,
But that's my point. Back in the day, or when
it's quality basketball or good basketball stars, you're gonna watch,
regardless of your teams in it or not. I know
I did. So it has nothing to do with being
older young. I want basketball to be I would love
it if the the the basketball felt the same well
(02:20:47):
that you you set your clock by it. There's at
times you're you're like, oh, it's on, yeah, and you
don't want that for you're exactly. I mean, Lebron's got
a point that you know, I hot take artists drive
me crazy too. And I guess maybe I'm putting words
in when he's talking about protect our game, protect our players,
protect your players. How about making it a little more
conducive for the fans who've got to spind an arm
in a leg to watch a guy take a day
(02:21:08):
off and play twenty two minutes because he's tired. He
plays eighty two And I get your tired, but you
know what, who isn't. So there's a lot of things.
There's a lot too like about the NBA, and there's
a lot not to like, and I got news for you.
You get beat by forty in a playoff game, then
that's not quality basketball, and that shouldn't be happening happening
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in a seven game series with the two best teams
or the four best teams, when you're down to the
final four or final eight, whatever, once you get to
the playoffs. How somebody's getting hammered by fifty. Something's missing, dude,
So losing by forty, losing by twenty eight, twenty seven,
something's missing? And Okay, how many great rivalries are in
the NBA right now? I'm talking about rivalries where you like,
(02:21:51):
I don't support, I don't root for either team, but
I got to see this game. Name namely three rivalries
in the NBA right now that are like muscle none.
Speaker 7 (02:22:01):
I mean, if it's not the Rockets, I'm not watching.
I mean, and that's to your point too. I mean,
because we had that in the nineties. We had when
it was the Nicks and the Pacers, the Nicks in
the heat, even if it wasn't the Rockets. O. Man,
I got to watch that, you know, the Lakers and Jazz,
I mean, whoever it was, and.
Speaker 1 (02:22:17):
Somebody Celticks Lakers Pistons, Nicks and bulls. Bulls. I mean
there was a bunch of them that you tuned in
for the for the bat. You wanted to see my
horn and lamber lean on Patrick Ewing, Right, you just
did that. That was a rivalry you wanted to see,
even if you didn't root for the team. See, that's
when I know a league's good is when I'm watching
when your team's not playing and you're intrigued with it.
(02:22:41):
So but we don't have that. The rivalry is hey man,
you got a jersey for me, Let's exchange jerseys. Like
I said, I joke around, you really want to create one.
Do what hockey does. When these guys start their little
pillow fight and pushing and shoving, everybody get out of
the way and let them fight each other till they
go to the ground, and then jump on top of
his referee. We'll see, oh, we'll see these tough guys
(02:23:01):
then right, oh yeah, that the talking and the load
management and then get your tooth knocked down your throat,
run back to the locker room and come back out
with no tooth and finish the second half. It's not
just a tough guy thing. It's a perception. We would
assume that the NBA. Our perception is, at least mine
is that if that were to happen, the guy got
his tooth knocked out would go in and start requiring
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oral surgery and miss six months. A hockey player walks
back in there, and we got rivalries to hockey. Now
you're watching them, even if you're not a hockey fan,
but if you are, you're watching them. You walk in
that back thing, those guys go get oh, forget the
tooth man, just stitch up the lip that needs eighteen stitches.
I'll see you in the second period. So, yeah, you
want to you want to create some rivalies and do it.
Let's do that. Let's change some rules of the NBA.
(02:23:43):
Not the height of the rim, not many how much
load management. We don't play back to back. And we're
going to put another gimmick of series. I got one
for you. When the pushing and shoven starts, everybody get
out of the way, sit back, let the referee sit there,
let them throw, and then when they're both exhausted from
their little pillow fight, they fall on the ground. Then
you jump on top of them. You want to start
(02:24:04):
to create rivalries if you can't give quality basketball, quality talent. Hell, yes,
some quality games, yes, but even the Celtics Lakers rivalry?
Is there a rivalry right now between the Celtics and
Lakers other than the history of it?
Speaker 4 (02:24:20):
In truth now, it's kind of what we talked about
with the USC football earlier, like most most of the
guys playing have no idea about magic and bird right
zero right.
Speaker 1 (02:24:28):
So that's it. And I like rivalries. I like I
like Auburn Plain Alabama. I like when LSU and A
and M. I like when Southern cowplay is Notre Dame.
I like when Florida and I do. I like that,
and I think we all do. And I'm watching, Well,
college football is a perfect example. Why are you watching
Georgia play? Why are you watching Southern cowplay? I don't know, Michigan,
(02:24:51):
if you don't like either school, why Old Pac ten,
Big ten Pac twelve, Big ten, Rose bull ruck? Because
it's rivalry? History of it? Well, I'll call we sit
in front of our TV all day in college football
watching different games that we have no interest in other
than are they going to make the playoff? And how's
my bet?
Speaker 9 (02:25:10):
Do you do that?
Speaker 1 (02:25:10):
In the NBA? No, you don't even think about it.
Speaker 4 (02:25:15):
Well, we don't even do it on the day that
matters the most of them, Christmas in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (02:25:21):
Yeah, we want to take that right. So Lebron's got
a point. But the truth of the matter is Lebron
needs to have a meeting with They need to have
a meeting within themselves and how do we make it better?
Instead of telling the media and the fans they got
to make it better. How about you, guys make it
better for once? How about you? How about you get
docked pay if you're healthy and don't play. How about
(02:25:44):
do that once? Let me see that that don't make
a lot of people happy. Yeah, I know we can't.
It's hyperbomic and I know I'm late, Dan, but the student,
I know we got to get the break. But I'm
just telling you, you know what, how about that once?
I want to get guys out all instead of this
preseason or pre Christmas day, play in tournament and putting
(02:26:04):
extra teams in and if you finish out of the playoffs,
we're gonna give you a chance to get back in
if you're in the top ten. Stoop gimmicks gimmicks are
what the NBA's made of now other than talented, very talented,
gifted players. But we don't have rivalries, we don't have
it to call these gimmicks. How about this, you want
to add a little flair to your gimmick, create this gimmick.
If you take a load management day and you're not
(02:26:27):
proved that you got a sick flu and you can't play,
or you tore a hamstring, or you're sore, sore and tired,
ain't an excuse. How about do that you don't get
you don't get that game check if you're healthy and
don't play, how about that. Well then they'll say, well
the coach will just protect him and run him out
there playing for three minutes and say he got a
(02:26:47):
sore hamstring, or the guy says he so you know,
I know we can't. I'm hyperbolic, but my point is
start creating gimmicks at work, not gimmicks that most of
us could care less about. The old NBA didn't need gimmicks,
They didn't need a gimmick. As matter of fact, gimmicks
got in the way of quality basketball. So play better basketball,
play more often, and quit talking about it, and get
(02:27:09):
your people to buy on board. Instead of media and fans.
How about making a better watch for the fans, then
we'll come see you more, create more rivalries well and.
Speaker 7 (02:27:18):
To your point too, just to wrap this up, it
wasn't necessarily a Lebron thing because, like we were talking
about the anonymous player poll that the Athletic did well,
it was the one that they did earlier this season
where they called Tyrese Haliburton the most overrated player in
the game. And now he's one of the stars in
the NBA Finals and has had a hell of a
playoff run.
Speaker 1 (02:27:36):
So it's like, okay, fine, jealousy, yeah, doing Halliburton. Halliburton
now is two games away, two wins away from wearing
the ring that all the other Cats aren't wearing, and
that a couple of them don't have it are never
going to get. How's that for overrated and the star
of the team. Okay, So I don't know what you're watching,
(02:27:57):
but maybe there's a perspective that needs change. If you're
the NBA players, it's the most entitled group athletes on
the planet. And it's not even close, not all of them,
but it is a group. It is the most entitled
player empowered. Take days off when you want smirk when
you want and make the most money in a short
period of time. Talented. The brand of basketball across the
(02:28:18):
league is not the best quality. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 7 (02:28:21):
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Speaker 7 (02:30:30):
The seven ninety listener line here in the nine o'clock
hour is presented by one eight hundred car cash. And
to some this is going to be low hanging fruit
because it is easy because he used to appear on
a show that as I stepped out of the studio
here momentarily, the Hallway TV had on where.
Speaker 4 (02:30:48):
We talk about knowing our audience at all times.
Speaker 7 (02:30:51):
The topic that they were talking on that show was
what do Luca and Lebron have to do to win
a championship? You just had Game three of the NBA Finals.
That's seriously what you're talking about right now?
Speaker 1 (02:31:03):
Come on, man, you know in that it'll be the
case and when the NBA Finals are celebrating, Lebron will
somehow be weaved into it. I understand this year they'll
lead with it somewhere somehow. Hey, congratulations to Oklahoma City
or Indiana. Then what a great final seven games? What's
(02:31:25):
Lebron gonna do next year? I get it, And in
the same sense, no, I don't get it unless you're
just a ratings you know, a ratings slut or you
know that that's that that's because but I think there's
also ratings uh fatigue that on television where you know what,
(02:31:45):
I think that we be honest with you, I shouldn't
have to hear Lebron names Lebron James name for for
for a while unless they add go out and get
Yannis and how he's paired with them. But it's just
such a lazy narrative to be talking about a guy
who's been in his living room for the playoffs as
long as you have. He's had a great career. We
can talk about all the time. But went in doubt.
(02:32:07):
The Lebron's become like lists during non sports season. Yeah,
mount Rushmore list, the top ten, the top five, these
are the top three. Who's the top two running backs? Whatever?
Could this guy on this list? Take ten guys from
this list and put them on this list in nineteen
seventy and ten guys here Lazy Radio lazy TV. Here,
(02:32:27):
it's TV, right, it's lazy TV and doing it. It's like,
oh okay, we got to instead of celebrating what's going on.
Another reason why Lebron's complaints about protecting the league aren't
it because we're talking about you when quite frankly, right now,
you're not relevant. I'm not talking about it as an
overall athlete. I'm talking about during these NBA finals. Unless
(02:32:49):
you're on there broadcasting yourself or you're giving us the
Draymond Green insight like he does on TMT at times,
or Barkley, you're not relevant. We'll talk to you when
training camp starts. There's no relevance for him for us
to talk about Lebron James other than it's the Lakers
and winning down. I got all this, got it, Let's
talk Lebron. Because you know why the broadcasters know Lebron.
(02:33:12):
They're familiar. They can they can take the same story
twisting around and say the same things about Lebron and
Kendrick Perkins if it's that show, can get up and
tell you why he's ten times better than Michael Jordan
and then we can all laugh, and then I mean so,
but it's a lazy. It's lazy television or lazy rated that.
Oh you know what, wait it out, let's just talk
(02:33:33):
about that guy. When you got Gilgess, Alexander Caliburton, two
teams that have played their ass off. There's a lot
of it. But I understand ratings drive stuff. But I
can also tell you this, I don't think many people
want to talk Lebron from their living room right now,
at this time, Lebron's at home. Lebron's one championship in
LA was in an abbreviated season, and then the coach
(02:33:55):
got fired pretty soon thereafter. It was a Frank Vogel
wasn't a sixty game guy. So it doesn't. And so
as much as I love the Lakers growing up a
diehard Laker fan, and the respect I have for Lebron's
career and how good he's been as the second or
third best player of all time, not the first, he's
a great player, but right now, what does this relevance
(02:34:16):
have anything to do with the seven games series in
the NBA Finals? Not a damn thing. I mean, it's
the latest he's brought. I don't care. Talk to me
when it's time for training camp and we'll see what
lebri Dan, You'll get it every day a little bit.
It's like Aaron Rodgers fatigue. You know what's Aaron doing?
What's Aaron? What's Lebron? I don't care what Lebron's doing
right now. I care what these two teams in the
(02:34:37):
NBA Finals are doing.
Speaker 7 (02:34:38):
Man, your thoughts on the Cowboys next, No, I mean,
that's that's it. It's right, it's the laziness that you
brought up. But it's also too I mean, Sean, it's
such a simple concept, kya Man, know your audience. Know
your audience. Your audience doesn't care right now about Lebron
James or Luka Doncic.
Speaker 4 (02:34:54):
They saw the video of Luca lifting.
Speaker 1 (02:34:56):
Smoking a grit. Luca probably lifted some doub bells, smoker
grit and go score thirty five.
Speaker 7 (02:35:02):
Hey, look, if you can do it, I'm not I'm
not gonna blame you for it. But the addition to
the pay no Mind list Skip Bayless and this tweet
sent me into a rage last night. The Pacers should
win this game. This about the beginning of the fourth core.
The Pacer should win this game at home. Crazy hot,
so much star power in the building, thunder or just
(02:35:22):
getting overwhelmed. Now, some of the things just kind of ancillary.
They're they're part of it. What the hell does the
star power have to do with the game?
Speaker 1 (02:35:30):
What you think?
Speaker 7 (02:35:31):
Tyre's Haliberton and Benedict matherin there in the huddle with
Rick Carlisle. Hey, guys, Caitlin Clark's here. We can't let
her down. Like we absolutely cannot let her down. The
star power would matter if Kaitlyn Clark got out there
and launched a three, that's when it would matter.
Speaker 1 (02:35:44):
Listen, Skip Bayless. While I appreciate what he did to
carve out a great career for himself and get paid
a lot of money to spew a lot of stupidity
for a guy who's not dumb, he's smart. Is Skip
Bayless is the poster chick for saying stuff he doesn't
believe to get a reaction out of you and everybody
(02:36:05):
else that he got When why would you even give
a fuzzy rats That's what he thinks when he doesn't
believe the star power he was talking about last night,
and you and I both know it. He's created a
multi million dollar home for himself, meaning income for himself
to say stuff like Tom Brady's not even in the
(02:36:25):
top ten quarterbacks in the league of all time. You know,
I don't know if he' se that that kind of
stuff that you're like, He's the king of hyperbole, dude,
He's the king of hot takes. He speaks, he says
stuff knowing that when you're turning it and two million
people are going to view every time he puts it
up because he'll say stuff like, how can anybody think
that Michael Jordan's a top five player of all time?
Speaker 9 (02:36:49):
What?
Speaker 1 (02:36:50):
He doesn't believe it? And then then he gets it,
and you know he'll just disappear from the conversation. Right,
you're not going to engage in it. He did that
so you can fight among yourselves and it can ruin
your night. I've never let a go room might because
he doesn't believe what he's saying. Why should I? And
if I'm not taking advice from a guy, why in
the world would I gave? Would I have any care
about his opinion? I just want another sixty minutes on
(02:37:10):
a show, to on a debate show, so I can
have him walk out thinking this was the wrong guy
to debate with. That's what I've always wanted. I just
want three hours with him. Don't pay me, just give
me three hours on a set with him talking all
these subjects he wants to talk about so he can
get lit up. Okay, and I like Skip bayliffs. I
(02:37:30):
respect anybody's carved out of career. He just carved it
out a way that is left. That exactly the reason
that Lebron James is are bothered by. You know, well,
we got to protect our league and protected I'll tell
you part of protecting you leagues. Don't fatigue me with
stuff that doesn't matter. I could care less about the
Lakers right now.
Speaker 4 (02:37:47):
He's just he speaks words, honestly at a certain point
for what.
Speaker 7 (02:37:51):
He's not on a show anymore, like right, be retired,
you may crap ton of money, go away, fine, but.
Speaker 1 (02:37:57):
But he's gonna he's gonna create it. He's gonna be
on another show. And I both know because of these
this very reason, his hot takes create people to the
dog on at the water cooler to talk. I mean,
I'd rather be talking about who's doing then the Lakers
right now? Who's doing the US Opens? It's NBC, right me?
The US Open? Yeah, like that no to be gay? Yeah,
(02:38:19):
who doesn't want to talk about not to be gay
right now?
Speaker 4 (02:38:21):
I mean, you know, would love to talk about him.
Speaker 1 (02:38:23):
Mike Turrico exact, great crew, great broadcast crew. I just
like saying his name. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Tiger Wood know to be gay and he's good with
his goll. I want to talk I want to know
what Dan Hicks is. I mean, I want to talk
about us open more than that's says. We want to
talk about us something. We want to talk about Lakers.
(02:38:43):
What are the Lakers in Lebron James movie? Are they
moving your needle right now?
Speaker 4 (02:38:47):
Not even close?
Speaker 1 (02:38:48):
Thank you and good night. Yeah it was, it was.
Speaker 7 (02:38:51):
It was in the huddle last night. Hey guys, guys, guys,
Terry Crews is here. We can't let Terry. Hey, that's
that's Reggie Miller over there. We can't let Reggie. Is
that Pat McAfee, like, what are we talking to?
Speaker 4 (02:39:01):
Star parers?
Speaker 1 (02:39:02):
Star Power? What does it have to do with anywhere Garden?
There was star Power in the fabulous Forum, Staple Center,
Bitcoin whatever or crypto dot is it crypto readA Now
is that we're calling?
Speaker 4 (02:39:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:39:12):
Well, yeah, there's star power and it's the NBA Finals,
you're gonna get star power. But leave it at that,
and then two million people what you're saying skip and
it's it's it's a there's some really weird dudes out there. Dude, okay,
and there's some really weird ways to go about trying
to get people to watch your sport. I'm not sure
that's one of them.
Speaker 2 (02:39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:39:32):
Well, sometimes people just feel like they have to have
an opinion, and well sometimes it's it not really warranted.
Speaker 1 (02:39:38):
They are more than title. I'd listen. That's so you've
got a platform, use it. It doesn't mean I have
to listen to it, right, or enjoy it or pay
attention to it.
Speaker 7 (02:39:46):
That's my favorite. Yeah, I mean that's that's just my opinion. Well,
it doesn't make it right. I mean I don't have
to expect it just because you said it.
Speaker 1 (02:39:53):
Yeah, And if you say, well, in my opinion, you
don't have to reiterate that it's just my opinion. You
just told me it was your opinion, and you're giving
your opinion. So unless you tell me it's fact, I'm
assuming it's your opinion and I really don't give a
fuzzy rats ask what you just said says I don't
care about your opinion, but I'm listening because I'm paying you,
not you, but the respect. But when all said and done,
three minutes after we're done with this segment, I'm not
(02:40:15):
going to care about I won't think about another Skip
Bayless quote until somebody else is pissed at him. Right,
don't care or Lebron James for that matter. You know,
play in the NBA Finals in a non shortened season
in LA with all that access, and then come see
me and then we can talk and we'll talk about
you during the finals while you're playing great career. But
right now you're no different than the Minnesota Timberwolves or
(02:40:35):
the dogone Orlando Magic. You're at home. Yeah, sure, so
we don't need to be discussing you. In television networks
that go in their rundown meetings, they should take that
into account as well. Why are we talking about somebody
who's irrelevant right now to the NBA when it comes
to these finals? For sure?
Speaker 7 (02:40:52):
Real quick, as we close out this edition of The
Sean Salisbury Show, you thought that this was going to
be something that doomed a local team. Maybe it got
him going we'll talk about it here. It is a
Sean Salisbury show, Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 2 (02:41:06):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show, Sales. That's beautiful, Sean.
Speaker 7 (02:41:13):
Did you see the picture that was making the rounds
on social media yesterday of Pope Leo the fourteenth where
it was when he was named as the new pontiff.
Immediately the Chicago Cubs put up on their marquee outside
Wrigley Field. Hey, he's a Cubs fan, to which then
the White Sox and most people started doing some sleuthing
and realized, no, he's a diehard White Sox or he's
(02:41:35):
a Cubs fan, but that he's a diehard White Sox fan. Well,
somebody yesterday at the Vatican gave him a White Sox hat.
Speaker 4 (02:41:42):
He put it on.
Speaker 7 (02:41:43):
In Astros fans immediately on Twitter thought that means we're doomed,
we're getting swept in this series.
Speaker 1 (02:41:51):
Well they're not. You said, you said the White Sox
are going to sweep the Astros in the series. Yeah,
that's their side.
Speaker 4 (02:42:00):
Yeah, the Pope, the Puplio bounce, the good.
Speaker 1 (02:42:03):
Lord might be an Astros fan, you know what, he
very well might be, So it's don't worry I mean,
the Pope pulled some weight. But guess what the Pope
didn't do last night or tonight. He ain't pitching and
he ain't swinging a baseball bat. His name's not Christian Walker.
What I did there?
Speaker 7 (02:42:20):
No, absolutely, that's where I was going next. As a
matter of fact, you were picking it right up of
Christian Walker able to say, oh, I got something for you.
Speaker 1 (02:42:27):
I'm just glad, he said, Pope, this home run. They
instead of pimped the home run put.
Speaker 4 (02:42:34):
Yeah, there you go. Here's a blessing. Here's a blessing
for you.
Speaker 1 (02:42:37):
Yeah yeah, here here here take this from my repentance.
Had the upper tank there.
Speaker 7 (02:42:42):
You go, had it not gone well last night, I
think we would have needed to enlist the help of
the rally nuns.
Speaker 1 (02:42:47):
Again. There you go. They're always there for us. So
the Pope may now be an Astros fan. Hopefully you go.
Speaker 7 (02:42:54):
Maybe, maybe maybe we can get him that orange star
hat he's sewn. Salisbury Triple Emmanuel L. More, Dan Matthews,
The Matt Thomas Show with Ross coming up next.
Speaker 4 (02:43:04):
We will talk to you in twenty hours
Speaker 1 (02:43:10):
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