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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsbury.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this. Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc Troupes, longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Dan Matthews. This is the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Prey is racing it and Javier has a drop d
Kurt scores one nothing. A's I think with the tough sky,
the infielders had trouble seeing it. Javier wanted being the
closest to it. It landed right next to him as
he reached for it, and the A's lead one nothing,
the one, and du Bond pops it up left side
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of the infield double the steps in the foul ground.
That's Harris and he makes the catch and what do
you know? Another infield pop up hit by the Astros
were pitches you need to be calling strikes brown ball
left side, just out of the reach of Walker. It
goes in the right field around third Soderstrom, he'll score
into third base, goes Rooker, a two out RBI single
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for Wilson, his second hit tonight, and the A's lead
is four to one.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Sanchez chest that is set at his chest.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
This one sliced into the left field, slicing back to
the left fielder and it's Soderstrom, the left fielder, make
thing catch on the jog for the third out of
the inning.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
So it's another one.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Two, three for Tyler Ferguson two to two, bouncing ball
left side to his left field. They get us a
third baseman, Harris a second for one on the first
just in time to get the double play. Kelly brings
the hands together. Here's the two swinging a mess. Myers
goes down on a high fastball, and that is the
ball game. The Athletics beat the Astros five to one
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to take the first game of this three game series.
Astros have lost four in a row and their playoff
hopes are on life support.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
You know, I think a lot of people probably expect
that disdain Dan is going to be on full effect today,
but I think I've kind of hit the numb phase
at this point. With that, we say away, we go,
good morning here Sean Salisbury's show. We're not gonna let
this ruin our vibe. No, no, you want to get
three hits. You want to have two of them be
basically infield singles and another one being a seeing I single,
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and the other team is able to actually put meaningful
contact on the baseball and win a game, then you
go right ahead, and then if you want to afterwards
talk about the urgency in the clubhouse and everything, you
go right ahead. You've had a lot of time to
be able to do that, and now you're in the
situation you're in and it's validated Ari Alexander and for Sean,
good morning, buddy.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Morning.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Just does not feel like there is a sense of urgency,
does it, Especially when you were playing a division opponent.
You know you have six games left to make the playoffs.
Your season is over if you don't get this done.
And the same narrative that we hear out of the
Astros every year, and they've earned the benefit of the
doubt for almost a decade of you stay calm, you
stay even keeled, been here before, know how to handle it,
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and that's you know, worked for them, hashtag built for this. Yeah,
worked for them year after year after year, except last
year it didn't. They got in, they won the division,
and they got smoked by a Detroit Tigers team who
frankly did not have enough pitching to compete in the playoffs.
You heard what aj Hinch said when they set up
their pitching. It's trek Scooball and then it's pitching chaos
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that should not be winning you serieses in the playoffs,
and the Astros got smoked by that team, and so
I think some of the mystique has worn off. The
whole Astros is inevitable thing after last year doesn't apply
because they got knocked out in the wildcard round and
I don't think teams are scared of them anymore. And
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the benefit of the doubt is starting to wear off.
When you have a down trend World Series win, ALCS loss,
wildcard loss, you see a specific down trend, the benefit
of the doubt starts to eroad. And when you have
six games left to save your season and you come
out looking like that does not feel like there is
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a sense of urgency, and it does not feel like
the message of it's fine, we've been here before, it's
not good.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Enough well, and it's also you have to be able
to prove it because at least in the past, like
let's take twenty twenty three, this was where I think
we kind of started to sense that maybe this thing
was starting to take a downturn, where you know, we're
going into the final week of the season and you've
got serious against the Mariners and against the Diamondbacks, and
you're like, wait a minute here, Like you know, we're
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not supposed to be in situations like this, Like we're
already supposed to be clinched, moving on, getting ready for
home games in the postseason, YadA, YadA, YadA, all that
kind of stuff, and you had to grin, and Barrett,
you had to scratch and claw all the way to
the end. I mean, you found out that Saturday night
after you beat Arizona that you were into the postseason,
but you just didn't know where.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
You didn't know if you're gonna have to.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Go on the road as a wild card or if
you're gonna be home as one of the division winners.
And luckily the Rangers were beaten by the Mariners that day,
so you were able to win the American League West.
But I mean, I guess that's the closest that we've
had because like there is a legit possibility, and last
night even made it even more of a possibility that.
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I mean, you heard Jeff Blum and the guys say
it on the TV side, You're probably gonna have to
win out now if you're going to have any chance whatsoever.
The division's over. It ended last night the Mariners win,
So your four games down with five to go, it's over.
They're not gonna lose two straight to the Rockies. All
they need to do is win one of these five
games and they're in fine. But I mean, the Guardians
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continue to push. And as much as we're feeling bad here,
I mean you mentioned Detroit like a j hinch for
the guys that are talking the live microphones up there
in Detroit, imagine how that conversation's going right now. Astros
had a seven and a half game lead, Detroit had
a fifteen and a half game lead.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
I mean, that's one of the worst collapses of all
time and you won. You got to give credit to
the Cleveland Guardians who were dead in the water. They're
like last year's Detroit Tiger sell at the deadline, dead
at the water. Guardians gave out Shane Bieber, who's going
to be a big piece in the American League playoffs
for the Toronto Blue Jays, who have clinched right Like
all these teams that for years have shown no ability
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to win when it mattered, the Blue Jays are a
good example. Plenty of talent never really the ability to win.
The Mariners, we all know, plenty of talent, never the
ability to win or get anything done. And now let's
flip this year because the American League for almost a
decade has been dominated by the Astros and then secondarily
the Yankees, and it feels like the Yankees are a
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wildcard club. I don't see them catching the Blue Jays.
They did clinch the playoffs last night. The Yankees did,
and that's not what they're supposed to be. They're not
supposed to be a wild card team. The Astros, based
on their past decade of success, aren't supposed to be
a wildcard team. But that's what we're looking at is
a hope of one, not even a wild card team,
the hope of a wild card team. And all you
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gotta do is beat the A's, who aren't good but
good enough to beat you, and good enough to have pitching.
Left handed pitching, by the way, which is something the
Astro should be good against. Where through the first two
thirds of this season they saw lefties almost never because
teams would make sure they didn't throw lefties against the
Astros because their two right handed lineup was better against
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lefties and so you have a perfect opportunity last night
against a lefty, solid pitcher, not a world beater, guy
that does not strike out the world either. So he
just like the three pitchers you saw in Seattle, throw strikes.
Why is it such a problem to hit guys that
are throwing, that are in the zone, that are throwing strikes,
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that are not beating you with chase rate. For a
team that chases, you are now having pitchers play into
your hands. They're not gonna get you to chase and
you still can't hit those guys. You still cannot have
the fire needed With six games left to save your
season to not be the one team that broke the
playoffs streak, you are going to be the one team
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that broke the division streak of the long one hundred
and sixty two season. Knowing that of the past since
twenty sixteen, you're the most disappointing team since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Do you want to be that team?
Speaker 7 (08:22):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Of course not, so play like it.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Yeah, And I mean there's no time like the president
to try to do that. But I mean, you know,
as you're talking, I'm just reminded of last night where
I mentioned to Christian Walker two of the three singles
that you had. Yeah, I didn't stutter two of the
three singles. That's exactly what the Astros had last night.
You get out hit nine to three by the A's
who are a good hitting team and playing in a
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hitter's ballpark.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
And that's another thing too.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
I mentioned Blumber and TK you know, on the TV
side talking about it last night where Blumber, I can't
remember iFeel was during the game or their postgame stand up,
one of the two where he was like, you got
three hits, and you got three singles hitters ballpark, like
almost alluding to that's hard to do, like somebody would
lean into one and at least be able to put
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in a charge to a baseball but like they didn't
look competitive whatsoever in that game. As soon as the
game got the three to one, I told myself, I said,
you can go to bed now, like you can turn
this off and go to bed. This is not going
to change. And it sucks to feel that way about
this offense. But there's zero reason to believe that this
offense has any hint of clutching them any hint.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
You have no yord On Alvarez. You didn't have Jeremy
Payana last night. Who's going to get the big hit.
The only guy that really you've been able to rely
all year long to get the big hit other than
maybe Painia is Victor Carratini is your backup.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Catcher, who, by the way, is not signed after this year.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
That's a guy they need to probably keep around because
he's one of the few guys for a long time
this year that's been doing all the right things.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
He's going to get starting. Looks like me and Sean
talk about that all the time. There is going to
be a club out there that brings in almost kind
of I would say that his career resurgence is almost
like what Travis Darnaut went through in Tampa Bay and
then he got signed by the Braves and brought there
and was able to have a pretty decent career.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
But to your point, I think Travis is a little different.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
I think Travis Darnault was a huge prospect who couldn't
stop getting hurt, and then he finally stayed healthy. Victor
Karattini has been a backup catcher forever and one of
the better ones in the league for a while. I'm
not sure he necessarily gets starting looks because there aren't
a lot of teams bad teams right Like Victor Karrottini
is the type of player who would be a starter
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on a bottom ten team, and a lot of the
bottom ten teams right now are not teams that are
going to pay extra for various players in free agency
right So Christian Vasquez is sort of the comparison. He
had a three year, thirty million dollar deal with the
Minnesota Twins. But before Christian Vazquez came and was essentially
Muldi's backup, he was a starter on a World Series
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team in twenty eighteen with the red size, and.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Make no mistake about it, he was brought here to
be the starting catcher. It was just the manager said,
well wait a minute, no, no, no, I'm not taking
my field general out of there. What the hell's wrong
with you?
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Yeah, so he he got that deal. I don't think
that Victor Kartini gets a three year deal. I think
that Victor Kartini gets a two year deal. And I
kind of think it happens with the Astros. They like him,
Dana likes him. He's done well here, he's done well
in the clubhouse. A two year deal or a one
plus one makes sense for him, but he somehow your
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backup catcher, a guy that's never been a full time
starter in his life, is the most reliable guy you have.
Not Christian Walker, who was your big splash free agent signing. Unfortunately,
it's not yours on Alvarez because he's hurt. Unfortunately, it's
not esak paratus, although it probably would be if he
hadn't missed the past couple of months. He's just coming
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off of injury. It's a backup catcher. It's a backup catcher.
Is your most reliable hitter. When you go through that
lineup and you look at all the big names, Carlos Korea,
you just traded for the deadline. You traded for Jezus Sanchez,
not that you gave up a ton, but you traded
for him. You don't watch a Carlos Carea at bat
and go all right, this is the guy that's gonna
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make sure he's gonna get us the clutch hit. Victor
Carratini's the only guy you kind of feel confident up there,
going like, all right, he's gonna get something done.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Uncle Vic.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
The crew over at Apollo Media does in company coming
up with that professional hitter.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
He's uncle Vic. He is, he is.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
He's one of the more you know, and you're speaking
of remember the saga with bringing back Michael Brandtley late
two weeks left in the year, and all right, he's
gonna be the spark in the last piece. Like no,
same with Paradis. If Paradis doesn't play well this last week, Like,
how are you gonna blame him? He rushed back from
a hamstring. He's like hast sixty percent running and that's
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gonna be the guy that's the savior of your offense.
Ill timed Jeremy Payne your left oblique injury. Ill timed
Jordan Alvarez body breaking down. Ill timed Jose Al two
be slump to end the year. Ill timed Cam Smith
hitting the rookie wall at one hundred and twenty miles
an hour and basically being benched for a month and
a half. Now, who's reliable on this offense other than
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Victor Carratini.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
It's a very fair question, and I think the answer
is one that most Astros fans probably wouldn't like. And
we'll discuss that here as we're just getting going on
a Wednesday edition. That does Shawn Salisbury Show. By the way,
programming note, Dana Brown going to join us tomorrow morning
at nine thirty finding out from the team, so we'll
have that weekly visit with him tomorrow. But as I
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mentioned with the Astros, the urgency, where is it? Does
the manager finally is the manager finally putting the words
to it. We'll let you hear from him and let
you decide. Right here, it is a Shawn Salisbury show
on a Western Wednesday, Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 1 (15:06):
Not a floating guy. I love it.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I love it when you got a good group, and
it's got to be a good group. You got a
good group, You're you know, a decent sized circle you
know around and you know you can interlock tubes if
you want, or at least you can kind of wedge
yourself in with the group.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
You got the beer cooler right there.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Somebody closest to it, Hey, toss me one, and then
you know, be able to enjoy it. And of course,
you know, I know that this is not really responsible
to stay on the air, but of course you don't
get drunk on the water, you know, like it's it's
one of those like we're like, man, in fact, I've
deleted quite a few golden sodas today. Why don't I
feel a certain way? But then it's like as soon
as you get out of your tube, you're like, oh, okay,
(15:46):
we so we did the responsible rides always too home
voted in college and uh, I remember beer thirty ice?
Why does that exist?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
But was that a beer? Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Beer of beer thirty the Midwest, So there's a beer
called like beer thirty.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah beer.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Oh so it's like Natty ice or like bud ice
or like something like that.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
But yeah, first of all, the fact that there's a
company called beer thirty, which is apparently regional, because I
thought that everyone had heard of beer thirty is just
like a bad like everyone knows. It's just like a
bad beer that exists apparently not. So the fact that
you haven't heard of it makes me actually feel better
that this is a ridiculous concept that you have now
made a beer called Beer thirty that not everyone has
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heard of, that is competing with Bush and Natty and
all these other big companies beer, and then you made
an ice version which clearly does not sell as much
as a regular beer would, and then definitely does not
sell as much as.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
A white beer would.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I was gonna say, the ices are usually in clay,
and Hockley will get to you in a second. We'll
also let you hear from Joe Espota, But the ice versions,
like that's like when you go to like any of
those convenience stores and they still have like the huge
tub and they've got the mass of cans in there
that you can get put in the brown paper bag.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Like usually it's those that still exist.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
But for us it was Maddy's or mea Stones, any
of those. I'm doing the Matt Thomas thing of like
rhyming it without like actually like giving proper attribution. But
that's that's what we went with, and it was funny.
One of the last times I had a roommates was
a place we lived at in Atlanta, and my buddy
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had bought had bought Maddie for the for for the
for the pool that day and I looked at him,
I go, why he goes, man, it's still good.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I was like, no, dude, Like you.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
You graduate literally from school, and then you graduate from
having to do because in school, if you bought you know,
killer or mud light anything like that, you know, any
any of those things, people would look at you and say, oh, man,
you got some money this week.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
Didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, that's what it was. You get the Yeah, you go.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
You graduate from from natty ice natty Like, no one's
drinking ice, Like I've never in my life ran into
someone like we're at a bar and go, well, first
of all, like bars aren't serving the ice, which is
a sign right there, right that at the place where
most people are drinking, it's not available. No, So, like,
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who are these people out there that are buying enough
of a market share of a natty ice or a
bud ice.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
There's plenty of them, which is insane to me that
it still exists.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
They should have them in like cases at museums and
be like, one day people drank this for some reason.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
This used to be a popular beverage amongst the humans.
But then they decided, I mean I guess if Planet
of the Apes ever happens, maybe they could do it.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Imagine explaining that concept to you know, two hundred years
in the future.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
All Right, we had beer.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Great, we had a light beer, but tracking that way
because ken Z didn't drink.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
No, we had a light beer. People wanted to drink,
but they didn't want to gain weight. Great, Then we
had ice. What the hell is that it was slightly
heavier for some reason?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Why would you want that?
Speaker 9 (19:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Exactly. Well, so wait a minute, some people are trying
to lose weight. Then some people just didn't care.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, I mean perhaps they super didn't care.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
I was gonna say, it's America, So I mean, that's
that's really a possibility.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
They even advertise You ever seen a commercial for whatever?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Ice? No? No, why does this exist?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I think that it's more or less like again, you
go to certain convenience stores that you see not even
an advertising board, but like one of those like cardboard
cutouts that say hey it's this. You know, you can
get an eighteen rack for nine to ninety nine and
somebody's like fifty cents of beer. Yeah, absolutely, set me up.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I just don't know how they're are they making money, Like, where's.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
It's not supposed to be a money maker, but I mean,
at least it's supposed to be a money supplementer.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I guess where's the marketing guy.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
I needed to talk to the marketing guy Anheuser Bush
and be like, because I remember they had a beer once,
because you know, I.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Went to schoolt miszoos iknew a bunch of people Saint.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Louis, and they tried to get a little wild with
a beer and they created a beer heard.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Of a culto I want to say so, but it's
not ringing any bells. So the concept of it was great.
It was a Mexican beer.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
It had like a sugar skull on the bottle, and
it was like a light beer Mexican beer logger, you know,
kind of like Pacifica, which is my favorite beer infused
with tequila, which is like an idea that sounds like
or it was some in some way right or something. Yeah, yeah,
And they like rolled it out and probably just in
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the Midwest of like, hey, we're trying this new thing,
like let's see if you like it.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And it lasted like a year.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Mexican surveysa in the Midwest. Boy, I'll tell you what,
what does that go along with a Jimmy Buffett song
up there?
Speaker 6 (20:49):
It should I wouldn't saw Jimmy Buffett live, and I
would love to take a couple of cultas.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
There growing older and not up. I didn't trust me.
I subscribed. I'm part of Parrohead Nation, you know.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
But it didn't work like last than one year because
I remember I knew a girl who worked for Anheuser
Busch and I was like, hey, you guys still doing
a colto No.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
So how are you still doing?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
But ice? I guarantee you the sales were not dissimilar.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I guarantee you there are probably convenience stores like in
the Midwest that I mean it's it's still it's still
hot and heavy, and if they don't have a shipment
of it, then you know, Tim or whoever that comes
in and is always known to get that. Maybe you
know a pack or two of Cowboy killers that they're like, well,
where's my eyes man?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Tim?
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Who's ice fishing? Yeah, in Duluth, that's it. That's who's
keeping the bud ice alive.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
There's a guy named Tim in Duluth, Minnesota who once
the lake's fleet freeze over and he's got his shack
out there on the lake that he's going to be
heading to the bait shop and getting a rack of
but ice.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
And he thinks it's called bud ice because it stays colder.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Probably, yeah, you know ice. I'm on the ice.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Does cores have cores ice? I think their whole thing
as cold as the Rockies. Yeah, I mean they've got
the yellow jacket. And then of course, I mean light itself.
I'm sure they probably do. I mean, I'm sure there's
some some sort of version.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
I don't know. I've got friends of mine in Colorado.
Maybe I could ask them. But like I said, Clay
and Hockley, we will hear from Joe A spot it too,
because I gotta tell you, I mean, I have not
heard him talk the way that he did last night,
and it was kind of refreshing. You just wish that
it came with more than five games left to go
in the regular season. But the Stros lose last night
five to one, open up the series against the A's,
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and the Guardians and Red Sox both win.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Do they have it?
Speaker 10 (22:34):
No?
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Bud Ice and bud Ice Light were discontinued by Anheuser
Busch and twenty ten due to failing profits, any tabs
still in college.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Like I said, it wasn't a moneymaker ever, So I mean,
I think they have nothing else if it's stuck around
and it was good exactly, and also too, baseball approves
automatic balls and strikes. Boy, wouldn't that be nice to
have right now? Anyway, we'll continue talking strows. You want
to join in sebon one three two one two ninety
hell beer two?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
You want to get in on that? Absolutely? What do
we care?
Speaker 5 (23:06):
The Astros are a game out of the wild cards,
so you know we're we're trying to loosen the mood
as much as possible around here. But it is the
Shawn Salisbury Show on a Western Wednesday, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Live for The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
We'll get into that a little bit later on, but
we're Astros right now. If you want to get in
someone three two one two five seven ninety Tripoli. I
didn't tell you ahead of time, but it is right
there in the audition. Joe Espada last night after the game,
as I just mentioned, you got three hits. There was
no offensive production whatsoever. Your best offensive hope was in
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the second inning, and the hashtag m al happened. I've
made the hashtag mal minimalist astros lineup. It's pretty much
what it is. You think that you're gonna get a
big inning. Ah, you're gonna get two or three runs.
Maybe that's a big inning for this team. And last
night they got one and that one stuck for the
rest of the game, So you lose the game. Now
you're a game out of the wild card race. And yeah, yes,
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And Joe Aspota talking about the bats last night after
the game, and I mean, in so many words if
you listen to them, pretty much says, yeah, we're in
this position right now because we don't hit and not
much offensively.
Speaker 11 (24:20):
You know, we got we got to get our bats
going here. We were running out of days, running out
of games. Just we need just more consistent quality of bat.
And when we do that, we were in good shape,
which just today.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Wasn't the case.
Speaker 11 (24:34):
But a few months ago, you know, we were scoring
runs and we were doing some things offensively, just creating
enough consistency for us to you know, win games in
a row and win series in a row. Yeah, that
we're missing some bats and we missed some players. Yeah,
but you know we do have enough talent in that
room to overcome those challenges, and that hasn't been the case.
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You know, day in day out. We just got to
find and uh some volley up bats here in the
next five games, and.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You know, make Mickey strong push.
Speaker 11 (25:05):
This is the sprent to the end, man.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
This is what he takes.
Speaker 11 (25:10):
And every team is your tee. Every team is you know,
no one is hundred percent. We got to dig inside
of us and see how badly what we wanted.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
That's what it comes out to.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Joe.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I'm standing for it. I'm standing. I'm standing where was
that months ago? Where was it months ago? You have
five games left to go. I appreciate it, and I've
said it numerous times. I'm not looking for individual haringing.
I'm not looking for you to individually call people out.
I'm not looking for any of those things. But stop
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with the We had some good at bats, the picture
was really good, all of those things.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
That's what he should have been.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Saying all along with this offense, puttering along this entire season.
That right there is what he should have been saying.
Because he's not wrong. I get that the this lineup
is not as good without Jordon Alvarez and Jeremy Panet.
I get that, but you still got a sixty percent
Esak peretis. You still got jose Al Tuvey, who's your
team leader in home runs, and he posts an OH
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for four last night with a crucial double play grounded
into OH for two out of Carlos Korea. I mean,
as I mentioned, your offense last night was three singles
out of two guys, two of them from Christian Walker,
and only one of them was of consequence, the one
that you lined right back at the pitcher and it
knocked his glove off.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
But that's what you got out of your offense. That
was your production last night.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
They're limited, we know they're limited, but I think there
are things that they could have done to put themselves
in a better position. And we got we had the
second inning on here in the studio. We get another
chance to look at it and see kind of how
it went wrong.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
So I has to change it now. Yeah, I'm gonna
change it.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
The base is loaded for Zach Cole which with no outs,
which for the last week or two he's been really impressive.
And I think that Zach Cole has put himself in
the conversation to be one of the rotational outfielders next season.
That being said, Zach Cole is left handed. They're facing
Jeffrey Springs, who is left handed. Uh, you're putting a
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rookie barely played lefty in a lineup against a lefty.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Why well, I mean, I think by necessity last night,
because obviously you don't have I mean, I guess you
could have put Arias over at third, and you could
have had Carlos Correa playing shorts.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Don't even to put Arias at third, Put Arias at short,
put Dubon in left, and you now stacked your lineup
because that they came up to that exact situation where
you have and I looked up, it's not like Zach
Cole has reverse splits in the miners, because the sample
size is bigger and big enough in the miners to
make this point. Zach Cole against right he's had a
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nine to sixty three OPS in minor league, basically crushed him.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Great.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
That's what he's been doing. In the big leagues for
the most part, he's looked awesome. He had a seven
ninety two OPS against lefties, which is good in the miners,
but it's two hundred points lower. So you have a
guy and now you need to extrapolate that to the
big leagues. Right, So whatever seven eight hundred oh ps
he's hitting in a small sample size, you can now
delete two hundred points from that and assume that that's
kind of the look against lefties. So you got burned
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by it. You have the bases loaded and the only
inning you were able to get anything going at all,
and you got a situation where you needed runners and
scoring position to get brought in because you put your
rookie lefty hitter to face the lefty starter, a decent
lefty starter, instead of just shuffling and throwing in Ramonoius
a veteran that you traded for. And I get Cole
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has been hot. You want to, you know, keep it going.
Why is he in against a lefty? I rarely question
the lineup making decision, but that specific instance burned you.
And it doesn't make because they've protected the platoon a
lot of the time. Hayesus Sanchez has barely played against
lefties because they know, so why are you putting in
a rookie? And then it earned you in the second
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inning and the rest of the game he can. I know,
it's like, oh, we had seven other innings to get
a hit.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
We didn't.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Well, he's been your power threat for about the last
week and a half, which is insane. He was in
double a like a month ago, right, And I mean
I think that's more also factoring into the equation of well,
you know, we know that he's a guy that can
run in the one, all of those things. But I
mean part of that second inning where you load up
the bases with nobody out and you get a strikeout,
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sacrifice fly and a strikeout. That's the Astros lineup right
there in twenty twenty five pretty much in a nutshell.
You just saw it play out. Something interesting that did
happen in the game last night. You almost wonder if
the urgency talk was kind of spurred on by this.
I'll share that with you all right here as we
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Speaker 1 (31:29):
Did you notice too, did you watch the game all
the way through? Yes?
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Okay, so there they did show it on the broadcast there.
It was either right before the final out or as
soon as the final out was the strike three that
Carlos Korea was walking away from Joe Espada, where you
kind of you could tell that he said something to him.
(31:54):
And I don't know exactly what the context was. I mean,
as far as I know, I don't know if anybody
caught up with Carlos Cray in the clubhouse after the game,
I'd have to go back and look. But it did
look like it was a kind of it's time to
put a fire under these guys, like it's time to
say something. It's time for us to do something because
what we're doing is not working. And it's pretty evident
(32:17):
because the last four games that you've been on in
this losing streak, no runs, four runs, three runs, one run,
got a hit, So you've got eight runs in four
games when you've needed to have this the most. And
when they're facing the Mariners and they're facing those pictures,
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you can say they're outclassed by a team that has
more talent on the field.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
This is not the case with the not Oakland. A's
all right, they don't have more talent on the field
than the Astros do. The pictures they are facing this weekend,
this week pictures they faced yesterday, solid decent, okay pitcher,
not a guy that should be shutting you down to
this point. They're bullpens, solid okay bullpen, not a bullpen
that you shouldn't be able to get hits against.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
And and he didn't get one for four straight innings.
No fire. And that's what Carlos Carre is for.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Carlos care is supposed to be the guy that brings
the fire, but I don't know how much it works
this year when you brought him in at the trade
deadline and suddenly he is the unquestioned leader of the
Clubhouse because there aren't that many guys left from twenty
twenty one when Carlos Correa was still here in the
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leader of the Clubhouse. Jeremy Pania was here in the organization,
but it never fully played alongside Carlos Carrea. He definitely
will listen to him. Altuve was obviously here, Jordan was
obviously here. Jordon's not even playing.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Not a lot of.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Other guys were here for the Carlos Carrella leadership era.
The past few years they have sort of grown up
in the Martin Maldonado Alex Brigman leadership era. And when
you trade for a guy, and I'm fully supportive of
everything about Carlos Korea, and I think if he's you know,
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he's gonna be here the full year next year. And
if you're in this situation next year and you need
Carlos Korea to yell at some guys, I think the
impact will be great because they've spent the whole time
like this is your own question.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Leader.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
I think it's weird to bring in a guy such
a type a personality who knows everything that everyone needs
to do. And I mean that as a compliment. And
then he's the leader for the last two plus months
of the season, like a guy like Cam Smith. And
I know Cam is super polite and he's gonna listen
to his vets, but you don't think it's a little
strange too, Like, all right, here's your clubhouse leaders. It's
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Jordan and Dubon and el Tuvey. And then suddenly one
day it's like, hey, we trade with Carlos Korea. That's
your leader. Now he just steps right back in. Jiner,
right's a guy who was kind of under Malody and
Alex Bregman, and that's your leader.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Now it's Carlos Karray just suddenly midyear.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
And so I think that that shuffle is is just
a little strange. And I know Karrey is good at it,
but when for a lot of the team, if he's
yelling at you in the clubhouse, like come on, guys,
we need it. Half of these guys being I met
you two months ago, man, what so I just I
think it's just a strange combination on all ends. And
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it obviously does not help with all the injuries and
everything else that's going on.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
You can clearly tell though that there is a fever
pitch of there needs to be urgency, because I think
for the longest time, what they had rested on was
we've been in situations like this before. We can work
our way out of this. We will find our way.
And now I think that, even after last night, it's
kind of a feeling of maybe we're just not that team.
(35:55):
I mean, I almost wonder if that was part of
the conversation of just some of these guys just don't
have it, Joe.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Let's be honest, some of them don't.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
Yeah, Craig can come in with fresh eyes, and he
played against them, he game planned for them the past
few years. He did it this year, and he might
be able to see be like, this is how we
attacked your team when I was in Minnesota, and this
is what we saw, and this is how they chase.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
And we're in trouble.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
It's not what you want to hear, but sometimes it's
what needs to be said. Save us, Hunter Brown, how
much do you ask for though out of your astroses.
We'll discuss that here as we get into the seven
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Speaker 5 (37:22):
Astros lose five to one in West Sacramento to open
up their series with the A's. Even more bad news,
the Guardians and Red Sox both win, so that means
the Astros are two games back of the Red Sox
with the tiebreaker going to Boston and a game back
of Cleveland and Detroit because they're both tied for the
lead in the AL Central. They'll continue their series today
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and the Texans release safety CJ. Gardner Johnson. We'll talk
about that a little bit later on where we're talking
Stros right now. And if you want to get in
someone three two one, two five seven ninety four, get
to the Hunter Brown thing. This was a quote last
night that I saw out of Mauricio Dubon, and part
of it is like I get what you're saying, and
without hearing the context, of it. You're just reading it,
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so I mean there is a little bit of you know,
there could be some blurred lines there. Sometimes you go
on a cold streak. It sucks that it's happening right now,
towards the end of the year when we need it
the most. It's baseball, but we've got to wake up.
It's like, stop with the back of the baseball card,
stop with the man that's baseball, all of that. I
get what you're saying, but like just say, it sucks
(38:29):
that this is happening right now.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
We need to wake up. I'm good. I'm good. I'm
good with both of those right there, if you just
leave it at that.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Pr answer from Duban is pretty usually pretty forthright. I
don't think they just kind of understand what's going on.
They've been good for so long, and the result of
them being in a back against the wall position has
always been we figure it out, we stay calm, we
figure it out, And right now staying calm is not
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figuring it out, and they just don't have the firepower.
It almost feels like the twenty twenty one World Series
against the Braves when Bregman's got a broke secret broken wrist,
you know, and the offense is just doing nothing, and
you can just tell that you don't have the firepower
to compete against the pitching. And right now it just
doesn't feel like they have the firepower. And I think
they know that that no one is going to save you.
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Jordan is not going to save you. Christian Walker, the
way that he's looked lately is not going to save you.
Jeremy Pania, who's probably even if he comes back, is
playing at not one hundred percent from the side, and
you know, it's interesting, he's got an oblique after getting
hit and it's a side injury. He's probably not gonna
save you. Al Tuvey is not gonna save you. None
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of these are the rookies that you have, the guys
that you traded for. So who's going to step up
and be the guy? Especially too, when Hunter Brown goes
today beyond him, who can you trust? You just burned
Christian Javier, who couldn't get out of the fifth inning.
You if Jason Alexander just got lit up, and it
is regressing to the mean of what he is, which
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is an okay pitcher who doesn't throw very hard, right,
and then whatever you get from fromber Valdez, which over
the past two months has been a nightmare.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
So who's gonna save you? I don't have an answer
because there is nobody. I mean, you just mentioned it
fromber can't be counted on Jason Alexander. Maybe he just
had a bad outing, but it kind of did seem
like you were on borrowed time with him, and you
just mentioned Javier I mean bullpen games, blue Ball.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Jade Murray.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
I mean, it's I'm grasping its straws. Here is I
think the best answer I can give you because Hunter
Brown goes tonight and you really really need you need
all five games now, I mean, let's call it what
it is. If you want to give yourself zero doubt
of how this thing could end, you need to win
this series and then you probably need to sweep in
Anaheim for that opportunity. And that doesn't even guarant to
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you now because of that loss last night and both
of those teams winning.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
And I don't want to bury the Astros until they're
buried because they again have earned the benefit of the
doubt over the past ten years. But if you lose
tonight's game and you burn Hunter Brown, how how are
you gonna how are you gonna win for even three
out of four of the games left?
Speaker 1 (41:20):
And how with with what I mean, not.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
With the guys that you still have going, I mean,
because you're gonna have to pitch Fromber he's not been
counted on. You're gonna have to pitch Jason Alexander. I mean,
he's been good, but like I said, the last one
and then you know, just to get back to where
this falls squarely on the hitters.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
You know what, there are three guys.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
On this team that have at least twenty home runs
three and your team leader has twenty six. Your team
RBI leader for all of the you know frustration we've
had this year with Christian Walker eighty two.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
Is Christian Walker? Yeah, with only eighty two the No.
Speaker 7 (41:58):
No.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Ninety RBI guy, No.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
One hundred RBI guy, And obviously a function of that
is how many guys have been hurt. Jordan would be
leading in all these categories if he played more than
a third of the season, but we know jose L
two bays declining as he gets into his upper thirties,
and he still leads the team in home runs. The
five ft six guy is your home run leader. We
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talked about this yesterday. When's the last time they had
a forty home run guys Alex Bregman in twenty nineteen,
and that was the year the ball was juiced, in
twenty nineteen. So despite the fact that you have this
supposed potent offense, you're not really getting the slug. Kyle
Tucker never hit forty. Kyle Tucker's about to get paid
four hundred million in the offseason and he never hit
forty four U's hitting thirty. Who you don't really have
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anyone else that can hit forty. L two Bay might
still go down in postseason history is the greatest home
run hitter. He's still behind in second place. But Al
two Ba's not gonna get forty home runs. Christian Walker
has never hit forty. Who's gonna get you forty? There's
this year. The ball is a little dead by the way.
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So despite the fact that we've seen cayl Rawley set
the catcher and Mariners record, and the fact that we've
seen Kyle Schwarber hit a bunch of bombs, and the
fact that we've seen O Tani hit a bunch of bombs,
and Aaron Judge and.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
A Henny Oswarez.
Speaker 6 (43:20):
Across the league, home runs are actually down, and the
Astros are one of those teams that, other than Jordan,
who again has played a third of the year, don't
really have the guy. They don't have a guy. They
don't have a Schwarber. Schwarber might be a guy you
look to in the offseason, However, your team is so
strangely built and Kyle Schwarber in no way should be
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playing the field that you probably shouldn't go after him,
even though you might need him. Because where are you
gonna put Kyle Schwarber? Oh, you put him at dh OK.
Where are you gonna put jord On Alvarez full time
left field? We know they don't want to do that.
Where are you gonna put Jose al Tube full time
second base? They you know they don't want to do that.
Can't put Kyle Schwarber at first because you just got
out of a big contract of a first baseman who
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couldn't play any defense, and.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
You're more than likely going to try to move another one.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
Yeah, and replace him with a guy where first is
not his primary position, and East sacked Paradis who is
by all means probably an average to below average first
baseman and is supposed to be an average to below
average third baseman, although this year he's played up had
been pretty good third baseman. Where does the power bat
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fit in again, other than Paradis who has a very
specific swing for the ballpark that he plays in and
was hurt and it was a serious injury, and it
was a soft tissue thing that may affect him for
the course of his career unless he gets it fixed.
And if he gets it fixed, he gets surgeries out
for seven eight months and will miss into next.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Year, which you can't afford.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
Hey, you put it that way, That's definitely a fun
ending to the season and a fun off season ahead.
But I mean, there will be a flurry of moves
this offseason. It's not going to be dull around here
in terms of this team trying to remake this roster,
because you do have to overhaul this roster to some extent.
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But with Hunter Brown tonight, if it doesn't go the
way that you hope and you lose this game, he's done.
He's done for the year. I'm not bringing him back
on short on short rest, any of those things. There's
just zero point at that point, because again, pretty much.
One more loss knocks you out of this. I understand
that even if one of those teams win the night,
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like let's just say, I don't know, well, actually you
know one of them will. So even if you win tonight,
you're going to gain ground on whoever loses between Cleveland
and Detroit, so you'll still be tied with them, but
they have the tiebreaker, and then from there you've got
to hope that. I mean, at this point, I would
say the best road for them is Detroit to lose
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again tonight and then fall back and then lose again
tomorrow and hopefully you win, and then you would overtake
them because then they've got to go to Boston, and
Boston's still trying to lock up their spot, So it
would put you in a good situation for that. But
I mean, aside from that, I just I think that
any of the designs of Hunter Brown on short rest
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or You're no on coming back, any of those things,
you loose a night, throw those out the window and
say we're punting.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
It's twenty twenty six time.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
And I like that path for the Astros because Trek
Scouble went yesterday, so they burned Trek Scooble. They might
be able to pitch him on Sunday at the end.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Of the year.
Speaker 6 (46:31):
But if you're the Tigers, and I know at that
point maybe you need to get in and you absolutely
have to use him.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Do you not want to have.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Trek Scouoble available for the wild Card Series? Do you
want to keep pitching Trek Scooble on four days rest
after he just had an injury scare So they might
be in a vulnerable position right now, just the way
the Astros are in a vulnerable position right now. So
you're probably right that the Tigers are your best path.
That you're cheering for the Cleveland Guardians tonight and you're
cheering for them to win that series or sweep that series,
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because yeah, Boston's still not locked it up. Yankees did,
Toronto did? That's it? Mariners are about to Mariners are
about to lock it up. That's gonna be half the playoffs.
And then now you're waiting on Cleveland, Detroit, the Astros,
the Red Sox, four teams for three spots.
Speaker 5 (47:19):
Well, the good news is, I mean, you still have
a chance to be able to get in. But the
problem is it's just not really much confidence to lead
you to believe that the astros have what it takes
to get in. Jason and John, we will squeeze you,
and we'll also do a short stakeout here.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Coming up next.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
Because it feels like this guy is just America's guest,
and yesterday he was America's guest. We'll what you hear
from them right here on the Sean Salisbury Show on
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Seawan Salisbury Show, Sports Sox seven ninety Stros lose to
open up the series in West Sacramento against the A's
five to one. They get three hits and they were
all before the third inning. And uh the Guardians and
Red Sox both went last night. So the shows out
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of a wild card spot by a game. Baseball approves
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America's guest here in just a second, But first, Jason
wants to weigh in.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Good morning, Jason, Good morning, my friends.
Speaker 12 (50:23):
How are y'all doing today?
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Good and Allri It's good to hear.
Speaker 12 (50:27):
You back on the radio.
Speaker 7 (50:29):
Man.
Speaker 12 (50:29):
I know he was on the news, and I gotta
say I miss saw on the news, man, But I
hope everything works out.
Speaker 13 (50:34):
For you in the end.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
I appreciate it, Jason. Thank you.
Speaker 12 (50:39):
There's really no positive way to spend the narrative on
this other than hoping other teams lose. But I agree
with you. I mean, we're kind of in that situation
where we're desperate, so we got to throw Hunter Brown
out there and hope we get that win tonight, you know,
and and listening to like MLB Network, which I'll watch
(51:00):
it all day long, and listening to you guys on
seven ninety, you know, and other you know, media outlets.
Everybody picked us to win last night, and I just
can't believe.
Speaker 13 (51:10):
We didn't win.
Speaker 12 (51:11):
And now we gotta rely on a guy who he's
been already saw year. We got to rely on him
to get it done tonight, and that's all we get
hope for at this point. I mean, there's really other
than that. We can't really put a positive spin on this,
my friends. We just got to get the job done tonight.
Speaker 5 (51:30):
I appreciate it, Jason. I mean, if there is a
silver lining to this, that is it that. I mean,
you do have Hunter Brown going. But here's also been
the problem with Hunter Brown going. Not a ton of
run support at times, I mean, such as life this season.
But like it's all finding good to have him go
what the six innings that he's gonna throw and maybe
he gives up a run or two. I mean that's
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what we saw on Friday night against Seattle. We were
feeling good about that. The problem is you didn't do anything,
same deal, three hits and he didn't score a single.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
Run in that game.
Speaker 6 (52:01):
And I think the pressure is on too, where you
know you have to back up Hunter Brown. Hunter Brown
is your best pitcher. Hunter Brown is going to finish
top five, probably top three in the American League, cy Young.
He is your best chance to win a game with
the remaining games you have, and so you have to
get it done. And if you don't, then I think
it's full on panic mode.
Speaker 5 (52:21):
You're facing Louis Severino, who's three and five with a
four point three to three ERA, seventy one strikeouts and
thirteen career appearances against the Astros.
Speaker 6 (52:29):
So he hates pitching there. I mean that's Sutter Health Park. Yeah,
his splits are massive and he hates pitching at home.
Speaker 5 (52:38):
And Blumber talked about that last night too, because they
talked about how Christian Hobvier is a guy that likes
to go into the tunnel and throw a ball off
the wall kind of in between innings to I guess,
kind of keep himself loose. And apparently Severino was one
of those guys too. But so far this year with
the A's against the Astros, let's see six innings, one
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earn run and then fives two earned runs against them.
The second one he lost it was in Houston on
June eighteenth.
Speaker 6 (53:05):
I mean, he's a solid pitcher and you probably could
have gotten to Jeffrey Springs last night. Severino is the
guy that is funny. Oakland did not spend whatever they are,
Sacramento didn't spend any money forever and ever and ever.
Then suddenly they signed Louis Severino to like a sixty
seven million dollar coll like Coly Severino of all the
guys who was on a one year proven deal with
the Mets after he'd struggled with the Yankees. And that's
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the guy that Oakland comes out of nowhere. I'm just
gonna keep calling him Oakland because they should still be
in Oakland comes out of nowhere and gives this guy
sixty seven million, and then he hates pitching in the
minor league.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Ballpark that he's stuck pitching in.
Speaker 5 (53:40):
Well, I mean, you know you can grint and pair
it for sixty seven million dollars. I mean, my god,
if they want me to go do radio and Borneo,
I'll go do radio and Borneo if you're gonna pay
me sixty seven million dollars. Hey, is there a Saudi
crown prints out there?
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (53:53):
Hey, you want me to be part of Saudi Arabia
sports leader Aldredularn soccer buddy, I'll live on an American compound. Yeah,
I'll do it. I'll be up at four am. You
bet your bottom dollar I would.
Speaker 7 (54:07):
So.
Speaker 5 (54:08):
Hey, look, you know eventually they're gonna own every single
bit of sports. If you know they're starting with boxing.
I mean remember Matt shob too. He threw out, was like, hey,
you know we could do kind of like what live
golf did?
Speaker 1 (54:19):
You guys have the power.
Speaker 5 (54:20):
We'll just go get in front of a Saudi prince
and have them pay us a bunch of money and
we'll go play for them.
Speaker 6 (54:25):
I mean, certainly possible at this point.
Speaker 5 (54:27):
Yeah, I guess everybody's got a price, right, Ted dbi
Ossi was right about that, all right? Speaking of well,
I mean, I guess there's no real tie in, so
I'll just go ahead and restart that and go back
into America's guest. So like when when people say America's guests,
like who would you who would you think Shaquille O'Neal,
Maybe America's guest Peyton Manning outside Manning would definitely be
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on that.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Liem Hanks I think used to be.
Speaker 5 (54:54):
I think he's waited too much into political waters that
it's turned a lot of people off. So I think
at a time he was, like in the eighties and nineties, definitely,
But now no.
Speaker 6 (55:04):
I'm trying to think who could be America's guest? Who
Who's Charles Barkley post Malone? Is he?
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Yeah? Easily?
Speaker 10 (55:12):
He is?
Speaker 5 (55:13):
Same deal Jelly Role. Okay, so would you put ed
ozeron on that list? Ed Jon's pretty charming. He really
is got to love that guy. And I mean, ever
since he left LSU, he has been living a charmed life.
And yesterday he was out because my buddy represents him
with Rowback Clothing Company. So Roeback's really big into the
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golf world. He was out at Best Page Black Practice
rounds happening out there for the Ryder Cup, which is
going to start in a couple of days, and Edd's
up in one of the grand stands there and coach
decides to start coaching. The spectators take a listen, not
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us did year the Goat Tigers at the end. I mean,
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you know, it's part of his monikers. Still, I think
my favorite part of that is ed Orson telling a
group of people gotta be clear now. Well, not only that,
but also a bunch of New Yorkers who probably had
seen him on TV.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
At some point or another.
Speaker 5 (56:44):
I mean, he is a national championship winning head coach,
but I mean I remember once my sister in law
we were watching. It was before he got the full
time job at l s U. And remember it was
that night they were playing against A and M, and
there were the reports Tom Herman's gonna be the next
coach at LSU. So it's like, all right, Ojon's coaching
his final game. He's talking afterwards, and I remember my
sister in law said, he sounds like.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
A cartoon character.
Speaker 5 (57:06):
Like I think, like some people like kind of like
don't even believe that he's real, Like he's a he's
a I before AI, but as a college football coach.
Speaker 6 (57:15):
You met, I bet a I could do the Orgron voice.
I'll probably give me a Taylor Swift song sung by Edward.
Speaker 5 (57:23):
Have you heard many men like that's sung by AI.
I heard it on Joe Rogan and it was creepy.
So it's like it's it's like a bluesy, jazzy like
sound to many men, And like, I know what you're
talking about. Yeah, yeah, and I mean yeah, I mean
like the AI singer sounds like Alo Black, Like it's nuts.
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But anyway, like so I think like some people probably
think that about Osra, but like it's also too, Like
he even talked about it a few weeks ago. He
wants to get back into coaching. But if you're him,
why do things like this? Yeah, travel to get people
hyped up? Relax?
Speaker 6 (58:02):
Yeah, if you have that much money, right, Like Mike
Gundy got fired and he's got a fifteen million dollar buyout,
why don't coach go Nataly?
Speaker 5 (58:10):
Yeah, you know where Mike Gundy's gonna end up. Mike
Gundy's gonna be in in the keys. Sure, Yeah, you're
you're gonna be able to go down to the Hog's
breath or something like that down in the keys and
you're gonna be like, nah, I can't be him now
that that is him, coach.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
How you doing? Hey, it's Mike now. But you know,
a nice.
Speaker 5 (58:29):
Fish just called me, Mike. I'm catching salefish. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
he's been he's been out on the water all day.
He's got the good base hand going. You know, soon enough,
like everybody else that you know grows up in age
and in Florida, you know, soon enough, the skin turns
the leather yep. I mean, you know, you get all though,
Jimmy Johnson's done a pretty good job of staving that all.
Jimmy Johnson Skimmy dropped the skincare routine. King, I was
(58:50):
gonna say, we need to know manah. I mean the
hair is one thing, but you know the skincare, that's
that's another thing. Is you get up in age, it's
one thing, but no, I love it. And it was
you know other video you know popped up yesterday, like
Keegan Bradley saw him and came over and shook his hand,
and I mean he's you know, people coming up. I
mean you can't help, but you see him in person
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and you're like, oh, I gotta get a picture. Oh
I have to And then it's even too like he
probably is one of the few former head coaches out
there that like he shows up somewhere, like if he
was on college game day, he could be at Alabama,
he's not getting booed. No, But like Nick Saban, if
they go to LSU this year, Nick Saban will get booed.
He hadn't coached a game in over two years, but
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he's going to get booed. Pete Carroll, if he showed
up somewhere, I'm sure probably would still get booed, like
if he was in South Bend or anywhere else. Just
for the years that he was at SC, maybe there's
been enough time between. But like Ojeron, like even the
Alabama fan that was like, hey, coach, can I get
a picture?
Speaker 9 (59:46):
All right?
Speaker 1 (59:46):
Roll time? Don't don't do that. Don't do that. Don't
give me a time. You wouldn't do that to coach
Saban if you were an LSU fan, would you? I
know you wouldn't. Eh, why not you have a go Tigers?
Speaker 5 (59:58):
Well, I mean, I mean he did coach LSU and
and he still does. You can tell, like when he
talks about them on game day, like he still has
a soft spot for l s U. He wanted to
go back, he wanted to come back, and then they were.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Like, now we got less miles. Boy, Yeah, what's less
miles up to these days? Not much? Yeah, yeah, you
know I'm gonna be seeing him either.
Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
But no, I love that, and I I was hurt
to find out that coach will not be around for
the weekend because I almost feel like that coach needs
to be there this weekend, like a like.
Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
A can't comprehend.
Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
Yeah, exactly, the European mind cannot comprehend. I mean, you
know where you got the European crowd a few years
ago to uh, the Cranberry's in your Head chanting along
Rory Rory to that song, and it was if you
if you know what I'm talking about, go look it up.
Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
It's pretty impressive.
Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
Like we're like, it's everybody in Unison like singing along
to the tune of in your Head by the Cranberry.
They're good at that, they really are. But the New
Yorkers they're gonna sh up this week. I'll fire up man.
I love the Ryder Cup. It's it's always so fun.
I mean, if you can see like attitude and passion
out of golfers. Then then you see it this week
because I mean it's just different stakes.
Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
It's fun.
Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
I wish that, Yeah, I wish that every tournament was
like that. And you see glimpses of it when guys
will get super fired up after a win and it's
like it doesn't have to be this button up all
the time. And that's one of kind of the results
of Live Golf is that I think they obviously went
like too far one way of shorts and the you know,
playing the music and all that stuff. And you can
tell that some of the guys that are on that
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tour are annoyed by like John Rahm is is just
kind of over it. Yeah, But like golf, golf is
fun to play. Golf is fun as an activity. Why
at the professional level is it didn't feel fun for
these guys.
Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
I didn't tell a buddy that I was never going
to play golf with him again, But when he told me,
hey man, you know, like I don't want any music
or anything, I was like, okay, see I don't love
the music though, I'm okay with it, but it's not
not I'm not like lasting it. But like it's just
something to kind of go along with the vibe, like
it's fun in a group.
Speaker 6 (01:02:08):
And I play by myself a lot, and so I'm
just not I'm not putting on music by myself.
Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
Myself, I'll do it all the time, and I'll I'll
turn it up even louder because I'm like, well, I mean,
I'm not gonna like throw myself off, Oh damn you
speaker box for for throwing, for throwing off.
Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
My backswing, Like it's gonna be none of those things.
But anyway, the.
Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
New ABS system in baseball, there is some things to
go through and we will lay it out for you
right here as so we continue the conversation. You want
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I had to live the Shawn Salisbury Show continued, and
you can keep them if you're successful.
Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
So in baseball.
Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
Now for the challenge system, which, by the way, too,
you almost wonder if the competition do they have a
competition committee in baseball.
Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
It's called the competition committee, but they have something all okay,
So just like the NFL.
Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
So I almost wonder if like what happened last night
with George Springer, which if you didn't see it, it
was a ball down the third base line that was
called foul that you could see clearly it went over
the third base bag.
Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
It should have been fair. Alex Bregman do for it.
Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
All of that, and I think it was like the
next pitch or the following pitch after that, George Springer
strikes out and it's pissed, I mean, just throws his
back down because he's like, that should have been a
double down the left field line.
Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
All of that.
Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
I didn't know that that wasn't challengeable. I wasn't aware
that that call because I'm guessing I think that from
what I understand is home runs are challengeable, and I
think if it's north of the third or first base bag,
then it's challengeable. Something like that was explained to me.
I'm not one hundred percent clear on the rules, but
I just know that they couldn't challenge it, so you
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get that happening. Well, anyway, you get one challenge and
if you're successful on it, then you get another one.
You hear umpires all the time. You know the challenge
is successful, Houston keeps their challenge, so each team's going
to get two of them. Challenges can only be initiated
by the pitcher, catcher, batter, and the request must happen
right after the pitch. So we saw it a little
bit in spring training at some of the ballparks where
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you'd see either the hitter, the catcher or the pitcher
tap the top of their hat or top of their
helmet and then they'd say, all right, well we'll take
a look at it, and it takes like thirty seconds
to be able to do. I get that you can't
have a bunch of challenges because then you college football
this thing because if you go to a college football
game or you watch it, which they have kind of
reined it in a little bit, but there'd be some
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of these games you go to where it was almost
every subsequent play, previous play is under review. It's like,
oh my god, so now he's got a jog eighty
yards to go back to the monitor and then come
back and tell us the call stands. Thinks you just
wasted five minutes for no reason.
Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
College football takes entirely too long, which was the problem
with baseball until they institute at the pitch clock and
now games are less than three hours. But there was
some game on for it was like USC Michigan State
College football game and it was like one forty five
am Eastern time, and it was still going on. It's
like two thirty seven left in the fourth quarter and
it's nearly two am, Like, how did how?
Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Why?
Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
How do people watch this sport when every game takes
four hours and twenty five minutes. Baseball has gone the
other way where it's shortened, which is good. I called
games for the Triple A team for the Astro the
Trigar Land Space Cowboys, and they had the abs at first,
and it doesn't take long. It's real quick. Tap the
tap the helmet. They showed the little thing in a
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few seconds on the on the board. It's a ball,
it's a strike. Whatever, keep your challenge, you guys have
lost your challenge. It's still a ball or a strike.
It's quick. I think fans are gonna love it. Fans
are gonna love this.
Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
You can't get any help from the dugout or any
other players in the field. And just like in football,
where if you blow through your timeouts and regulation you
go to overtime, you get a timeout or two, can't
remember exactly how many you have, but in each extra
inning a team will be rewarded a challenge if you
don't have any remaining. So you're going to have that.
And just like we had seen at the All Star
(01:06:12):
Game and in spring training, well, the ABS system already
has a sponsor.
Speaker 6 (01:06:18):
It's a mobile provider, T Mobile, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's pink Pink Challenges. Big challenge goes to the Houston Astros.
They keep their Pink Challenge.
Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
And I mean, and that's the thing is, I mean,
most of us don't watch a ton of spring training baseball.
So the first time we really got a chance to
see this, unless as you even mentioned, you go watch
the Space Cowboys is the.
Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
All Star Game.
Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
And I mean I remember being there at Truas Park
and seeing it in person, and I mean thirty seconds,
maybe it's not a twenty seconds.
Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
I mean you saw it pretty quickly.
Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
I think the first one was scool ball and school
ball was like no, no, no, like take a look
at that.
Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
They hit the bottom of the zone and sure enough
it did.
Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
And I think even like before the umpire could even
hit the microphone, he was already walking off. So I mean,
you almos wonder if like you know, like the not
the crew chief or whoever else is you know, standing
right there as at tandem that will then go over
to the dugout or like let the pitcher know, like hey,
you can get off the field, like it's yeah, it's
gonna go your way.
Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
It is quick. It was always.
Speaker 6 (01:07:15):
I've never seen one in spring training or the miners
in the All Star Game where it's like, all right, guys,
what are we doing? Why is this taken so long?
I think it's it's going to be massive positive and
it's gonna put a little heat on the umpires.
Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
I think that's why it's taking so long.
Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
As a friend of the program, friend of Houston Sports media,
Bend Bo's called the Umpires Union all right, I think
that they had something to do with with backing this up.
Because now with those graphics that get put out the
umpires scorecard, you can see how good or bad.
Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
These guys are.
Speaker 6 (01:07:46):
And uh, Pat Hoberg got a lot of praise for
the one hundred percent effort in the World Series or
the one missed you know, missed a ball just barely
and then everything else was perfect.
Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
He just couldn't stay out of the book. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
And then you see other guys, this Angel Hernandez.
Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
Right, for years and years people have complained about Angel
Hernandez and C. B. Buckner and Angel Hernandez finally left
the game after an umpire's scorecard was holding him accountable.
And you saw it's like every night, but there's no evidence,
there's no real evidence, Like you could have guys break
it down on video. John Boy can do his video
many videos as they want. But then we had a
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scorecard and it's like Angel Hernandez missing fourteen calls and
then sixteen the next night and then twelve. And I
think this challenge system is going to be another way
to hold the umpires accountable. The last and final way
that they should be held accountable is just like the NBA,
these guys need to be available for interviews.
Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
I mean I've said that numerous times that if you
make a call that affects the game.
Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
I don't want to pull a reporter go up to
a podium. Yeah, go talk.
Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
You made the call that affected the game, so you're
the one that needs to answer for it. I don't
want a pull reporter, right, there's no accountability there of
one person who what did you see on that call? Well,
this is what I saw, Joe West, you know when
he when he when he was peacocking out there during
the Alcs against the Red Sox. And then oh, we'll
send a pool reporter. Great, that's gonna be great for everybody. Brandon,
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So you want to get in, we'll let you get
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Is it already too early to start thinking about the future,
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Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
The John Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 14 (01:09:36):
Good morning, Brandon, Beggy, morning Danie more already I love
the show as always, and Dan I always help people
get some of that Kobe Stevens apparel. Man, that's great
stuff right there, no matter what time of the year
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Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
And tell you that there you go.
Speaker 14 (01:09:51):
But now I wanted to man, just talk to you
about like you said, you kind of saw it spiral
down ever since that sweep of the Dodgers. I think
you and I we've talked about this too many may times.
The thirty eight out of sixty seven, I mean, that's
the line when it comes down to, you know, you're
one hundred and sixty two. You're gonna have your ups
and downs. Baseball is a long grind. It's a long season,
and you know you're twenty games over and seven and
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up at the time or eight, you say, you sit
there and keep your foot on the gas, you don't
hit the brakes. And I mean despite all the injuries,
you find a way to.
Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Fight through it.
Speaker 14 (01:10:19):
I mean I commend the spot of I'm looking for
any like silver lining through all this to commend a
spot of for you know, what he's done trying to
keep this group together. I think they're at times you've
seen players selfish and kind of going after maybe you
know personal stats of the situation with from Burn. I'm
not going to go into too much of that, but
you know, I just you don't like stuff like that,
especially when a guy's up in a contract year and
they're underperforming. But I'm with you ever since, you know,
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I kind of new Seattle was going to get hot.
I mean even last the last offseason the Walker deal.
Wasn't very excited about that. I think they should have
done more to kind of deepen and really linked the
their bench and their lineup. You know, you look at
good teams that are in the postseason picture right now
that have a starter go down or two, well, they're
they're bench guys almost as good as their starter who
comes out and who may be hurt, but they're they're
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bit deeper.
Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
We weren't.
Speaker 14 (01:11:01):
I think you can put a four K in. I
think it's done. I think last night's game was It's
kind of that defining moment. Really, the Mariner series was
kind of the defining moment. But how about you. I
think it's time to look toward twenty twenty six, flip
the clock and flip the script and look at rebuilding
this roster and look at all the areas. It's everything.
There's not just one thing you can say that's good
one thing that's bad. I think everything is up for
a fair game. I think if you look at the
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power that you mentioned, no twenty home run hitter, and
I think already said it since Bregman in twenty nineteen,
I know, forty home run itter, I should say, And
this year you're aging second baseman with declining eight veteran players.
It's got twenty six or something, and he's still going strong,
but he's not having the type of year he needs
offenially from a batting average. So I wouldn't want to
be Dana Brown. I'd like to be a fly on
the wall to figure out what the calls they make.
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But I think it's time to flip the script in
and I appreciate the time and looking forward to seeing
what they do this offseason, but not only any of
the tie breakers. The playoff picks here looks really really
bleek right now, Thanks so much.
Speaker 5 (01:11:53):
Hey, appreciate it, Brandon. I mean there's a time for
that conversation. And look, I mean, if the Astros do
get eliminated sometime this week, maybe we start that conversation
because well, there is nothing more to look forward to,
because after Sunday you're done. But I mean you're still
in it for now, so you still need to worry
about the team that you have right now at the
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same time though, too, I mean, what necessarily encourages you
that you're going to have a reason to worry about
past Sunday.
Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Nothing.
Speaker 6 (01:12:20):
There's not a lot, And there's just not a lot.
The offense has shown over the whole year. We have
a big enough sample size now over the past few
months to know what they are and what they are
without yourd On Alvarez. So definitely what they are without
Jeremy Panna, whom his time earlier with the rib injury.
And it's not a good offense what they are without
Estock Paradus. And now you have sort of a hobbled
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Eastcoc Paradus in the lineup. It's nice to have him.
He's useful, but six seventy percent Estoc Paradus is not
going to save your lineup. It's not going to make
the rest of the guys around him hit better. It's
just it's not a dangerous lineup right now, and average
pitcher are able to carve them up. And that's what
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you're going to see the rest of the way. You're
not gonna see aces the way that you did in
the Mariners series, where they have a ton of really
good pitching. You should be able to beat the Athletics,
you should be able to beat the Angels, and they
have now shown time and time again they just cannot
string together these type of inning. They just don't have
the firepower. And I'd love to be proven wrong. I
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would love for them to give Hunter Brown some run support,
because this does sort of feel like the last stand
because once you get past Hunter Brown, the pitching is
very much in question. But there's not Oh, you're right,
there's just not a lot of evidence that the firepower
is there.
Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
Yep, Hunter Brown and Johnny whole staff time. That's what
it looks like it is for the Astros. We'll continue
the conversation a little bit later on in the show,
but I do want to get into a little bit
of Texans conversation because I mentioned it earlier. Something was
said yesterday after a move was made, and I just
really can't say I buy it. We'll discuss it here.
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Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
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Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
Well, here's where the news gets even worse because the
Guardians and the Red Sox both win last night, so
Boston is now two games with the tiebreaker in front
of you, and the Guardians and Tigers are both a
game in front of you for the final wildcard spot,
and they also both have the tie breakers. And oh,
by the way, now the Mariners with a comeback win
(01:16:42):
last night over the Rockies. There are four games in
front of you with five games to go. So the
AO West is done and the same deal there, tiebreaker there.
We'll get into the Texans in a second, because I mean,
just fresh off of that, I feel like, you know,
this does need to be talked about. And again, you
know the TV side LASTK and Blummer talking about this.
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You're gonna look back when it's all said and done.
I think at two things this year, the Astros against
teams that they should have beat in this lineup, and
just how poor they were with runners in scoring position,
but the teams they should have beat. And I heard,
you know, TK and Blumber talking about this. Swept four
games at dyke In Park by these guys who just
beat you again. So now you've lost five straight games,
(01:17:26):
at six straight games. If I'm not mistaken, to the
A's but still you can't beat the A's, all right, whatever,
what about the two out of three you lost in
Chicago to the White Sox series like that, and I
understand long season, one sixty two, all of that, but
you couple that with your own offensive inabilities, and that's
(01:17:47):
why you find yourself in the situation that you're in
right now. Is we talk about it all the time,
me and Sean. The golf example, birdie the berdie, bull holes,
eagle the holes that you have a chance to eagle,
and don't get out of those with parts and bogies.
They've had a lot of pars and bogies this year
when they should have had birdies and eagles.
Speaker 6 (01:18:04):
Those are things that can change year to year. But
the lineup is a problem. You lose series is you
shouldn't lose every year. You win a bunch of games
one run games or whatever that you shouldn't win every year,
and then it changes. It's like turnovers and football, right
like whatever Phil Steele likes to do the thing where
whatever team was plus nineteen and turnovers next year just
(01:18:27):
by value of regression should be a little different, or
whatever team had a bad year because they were minus
twenty two and turnovers they're going to improve just by
value of regression. So I think those are changes that
can happen. But the lineup thing has not been just
a problem this year. This is now an approach thing
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second year in a row where the approach is an issue,
where they're swinging too much, where they're not drawing walks,
where guys are not getting on base enough, where there's
a lot of first pitch outs pop ups right, like
Astros fans, I've never seen a fan base and I'm
not saying they're not right to complain, but I've never
seen a fan base complain about pop ups more.
Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
And they're not necessarily that they're wrong.
Speaker 5 (01:19:08):
Pop ups bouncers to short and third double plays.
Speaker 6 (01:19:12):
But I'm I see other fan bases in baseball like
you just don't catch, like Blue Jays fans being like ah,
the pop ups for whatever reason, like Astros fans and
the pop ups is the thing, like Bregman is a guy,
they would complain about pop ups and it's not necessarily
they're wrong, it's just like it's something they I would
say they noticed more in tune.
Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
More than other fan base paying closer attention to it.
And you see it.
Speaker 6 (01:19:33):
Yeah, yeah, And those are things that happen a lot,
and it's now going on a multi year trend. Even
the twenty twenty two team that won one hundred and
six games and won the World Series did so on
the strength of a great pitching staff that stayed healthier
than any other pitching staff ever, and then a bullpen
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that was phenomenal, buoyed by Rafael Montero having a career
year and Ryan Presley being excellent and Brian A. Bray
You being excellent and getting a great year out of
Hector Narris, who was an up and down closer for
the Phillies before that point, and so he had all
these sort of unsustainable things. But the one thing that
is sustainable is how much power your lineup can provide.
Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
And even in.
Speaker 6 (01:20:20):
Twenty two, the year they won one hundred and six,
it wasn't that consistent, right, Like, there were games where
there were weeks where they would go cold for a
little bit, and you wouldn't necessarily expect that like twenty nineteen,
that one that ever happened.
Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
The one hundred and seven.
Speaker 6 (01:20:34):
Win twenty nineteen team only won one more game than
twenty twenty two, and I know the ball was juiced
in nineteen, but did you ever go into a game
in twenty nineteen watching that Astros team and expect them
to get shut down?
Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Ever? No, but in twenty.
Speaker 6 (01:20:50):
Two you did, where like, we could win this game
too to one because our pitching is great, beause Christian
Avire is gonna go out and give us six innings
of scrolls ball and give up two hits.
Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Eleven, we saw it, but we could score two and
win the game.
Speaker 6 (01:21:03):
And so since then, it feels like almost like since
the twenty one playoffs when Bregman with the secret were
broken wrist and they just kind of we were didn't
weren't able to string together anything against the Braves.
Speaker 5 (01:21:15):
And your singles and solo home runs. This with this
offense started, yeah, was in twenty one, and then twenty.
Speaker 6 (01:21:20):
Two it was like offense was up and down, but
the pitching was so good. You win one hundred and
six games the World Series. In twenty three, it was like,
I don't know what's up with this offense. Everyone's complaining
about Maldy because you've got some good hitting out of
Yaner Diaz. And then twenty four, well, now these guys
are chasing too much and they're not seeing enough pitches,
and the amount of pitches scene has dropped in twenty five.
Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
It feels like the same issue.
Speaker 5 (01:21:41):
No, I mean, that is something that is going to
have to be heavily scrutinized over the offseason, because I mean,
part of the reason Tony Paris Chico is here and
I know I bring him up and people are going
to bring up him over at third base, but one
of the chief reasons he was brought in was because
of how much of a fundamentally sound offense or excuse me,
defensive fielding coach he is. And you did see the
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fielding improved this year, despite the pop up dropping in
the infield last night and some of the things that
we've had happened recently, but I mean, you did see
that improve. And he also, if I'm not mistaken, I
think was supposed to be brought in to improve the.
Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
Base running, which I mean, at times has been fine.
Speaker 5 (01:22:19):
I'd like to see this team be a little bit
more aggressive on the bases, especially with some of the
speed guys they have, because certainly other teams are very
aggressive against this team, not only with stolen bases, but
also with the weakness of your arms out in the
outfield of being able to take the extra base with
something hit to the outfield. So the hitting is the
one though that you know, as this staff meets up
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in the offseason, how do we improve this thing? That
has to be chief number one with the on field performance.
We have to be able to find ways to be
more productive. The stolen base thing, I think you're dead
on because.
Speaker 6 (01:22:53):
There are multiple players in this league that it that
have now figured out the pitch timing and how to
read pitchers and how to read catchers. Juan Soto is slow.
He just is right, and.
Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
He can't field. Did you see that point?
Speaker 6 (01:23:12):
No, he cannot field, and everyone knew that he looked
like a.
Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Little leaguer out there in right field.
Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
I was like, did that honestly just happen?
Speaker 6 (01:23:19):
Jan Soto is one of the slowest players in baseball.
I'm looking up his sprint speed right now, thirteenth percentile
sprint speed twenty five point eight. If Jan Soto was
on the Astros right now, Juan Soto's hitting prowess aside,
do you know he would be leading the team in
stolen bases.
Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
By a lot, by a lot.
Speaker 6 (01:23:39):
I think the team leader is twenty, right, does anyone
have more than twenty Paynias at twenty? I know you've
been on the Paynia twenty twenty watch for some time, which, yeah,
did look like you were looking good at that but.
Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
He got hurt.
Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
You know, you would have three more home runs to
be played. They are fourth worst in baseball and stolen bases. Yeah,
seventy eight is a team.
Speaker 6 (01:23:57):
So who they're the leader this year is paying You're
right with twenty, I believe so one. Sodo has thirty six. Yeah,
Paya is twenty. Myers as sixteen l two pass ten.
You have three guys with double digits. Cam Smith is
one of the fastest players in baseball.
Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
He has eight.
Speaker 6 (01:24:13):
Jeremy Payne is definitely one of the fastest players in baseball,
and he has twenty. And I know Paya isn't necessarily
the best at getting the jumps, getting the reads one
two times though he doesn't get caught a lot, but
he also is only attempted twenty two steals.
Speaker 5 (01:24:27):
I think that it's also I mean, the situation with
this team of let's not run ourselves out of an inning. Well,
the good news is you're gonna hit yourself out of
an inning, So what's the point in even trying that?
Speaker 6 (01:24:36):
So why is one soda thirty six to thirty nine
in stolen bases? And Jeremy Page is only attempted twenty two?
Speaker 9 (01:24:42):
Right?
Speaker 6 (01:24:42):
Like, I get if you're running and you're getting caught
because you're not getting the right read to the right jump,
they're just.
Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Not running well. And now I know the answer. All right,
they need to bunt more.
Speaker 5 (01:24:50):
Yeah, I find I've finally given you guys, have twisted
my arm enough that we can go Augie Gurito baseball
if you want to.
Speaker 6 (01:24:57):
Here, you saw Josh Naylor this weekend? Right, Yeah, how
would you describe? And I don't want to body shame anyone,
but how would you describe Josh Naylor's physique?
Speaker 5 (01:25:07):
He's, at least in the appearance, a huskier looking fella.
But I mean, who am I to judge because I
fit the same category hustle. It's I love the word husky.
It's not shaming if I'm doing it.
Speaker 6 (01:25:17):
I love the word husky. You know who got described
as husky? Bobby Hill. Yeah, so Josh Naleen became a
hell of a chef.
Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
He did become a hell of a chef is.
Speaker 6 (01:25:28):
Second percentile sprint speed in Major League Baseball. Ninety eight
percent of baseball players are faster than Josh Naylor. Okay,
Josh Naylor has twenty eight stolen bases. Josh Naylor has
eight more stolen bases than the Astros leader, who is
(01:25:49):
Jeremy Paanya. Do you know what Jeremy Paynya's percentile sprint.
Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Speed is.
Speaker 6 (01:25:54):
Ninety seventh percentile sprint speed.
Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Some three percent are faster and he is not very many.
Speaker 6 (01:26:01):
Jeremy Pagna is one of the fastest players in all
of baseball twenty nine point six feet per second.
Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Josh Naylor is one of the slowest in baseball.
Speaker 6 (01:26:08):
Twenty four point four feet per second, and he has
eight more steals than Jeremy Paanya. So this year, specifically,
it has happened this year, slow Husky guys have found
the ability to steal a ton of bases. Why can't
your fast jacked guys do it?
Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
It's organizational philosophy.
Speaker 5 (01:26:29):
He used to be a fundamentally sound baseball team, but
that seemingly has eluded them over the last few years.
Jim and most City will work into the conversation we
will also to We'll push the CJ. Gardner Johnson to
the bottom of the hour, so continue the astros conversation
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You know.
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What was it twenty plus years? I think they said
that almost more than half of his life was spent
at Oklahoma State. Because you don't you don't want to
differentiate between the two bet quarterback. Yeah, the quarterback.
Speaker 6 (01:28:16):
There a legendary coach for them, But it just felt like,
and I was talking someone on the Great Facebooks yesterday,
or like.
Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Get rid of Willie Fritz. You can bring in Mike Gundy.
He's a better coach.
Speaker 6 (01:28:28):
No, Willi Fritz is doing great, And Mike Gundy just
didn't feel like he had adapted to the new college football.
Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
And I get it.
Speaker 6 (01:28:35):
Change is scary, and there's been a lot of them,
and I don't like most of the changes in college football,
I feel like the sport has lost its charm. But
if you're a coach and this is your profession and
you've been really good at it for a long time,
like Mike Gundy has adjuster or die and he didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Same with Dabo Sweeney.
Speaker 6 (01:28:52):
Davos Sweeney has won national titles and he is the
perfect example of you can be at the tippy top
of your profession, just like Dabo was and not adjust
to the changes and the differences and the adjustments that
you need to make and refuse and be too stubborn
to adjust and modernize how you do things. And now
(01:29:12):
Clemson is not what they were because the coach who
was the best coach in the sport or the second
best coach in the sport or top whatever will probably
go in the Hall of Fame multinational title winner refuses
to adjust, and I think Mike Gundy is the same thing.
Refuse to adjust to the times, lose to Tulsa, get
murdered by Oregon, and you get fired despite the fact
(01:29:35):
that you are one of the greatest coaches in that
school's history.
Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
The times that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
Seven one three, two, one two five, seven ninety is
the number to get in Continuing the Astros discussion Most City, Jim,
Good morning, Jim, Hey guys, Okay, m.
Speaker 10 (01:29:51):
H yeah, I just want to come in on the Strows.
So you know, as far as this season is gone,
I mean, any given day, I can't determined whether it's
just a rash of injuries that has caught up to us,
or it's, you know, the underperformance of players that are
down on the field that are expected to brew produce.
(01:30:12):
But watching the game last night, but I'm a lifelong
Astros fan, and on this ten year run that we've
basically had since twenty fifteen, I've put last night's game
in terms of hitting performance, lack of no approach against
this lefty junk ball thrower that topped out at ninety
(01:30:32):
one on the mount rushmore of one of the worst
hitting performances I've seen. You damn right. We can complain
about pop ups and rollover grounders when they'd happened throughout
the year, and last night. You know, I love Altuve
the greatest Astro. I saw a second at bat of
missus first when he jumps on a pitch breaking in
(01:30:53):
the dirt pop up. Next at bat, he comes back up,
takes two middle out fastballs or fitch that he should
have hit, but he can't pull. He can't go the
other way anymore because he's become pull happy over the years,
so he locks himself up, and then you've got yati
rds continuing to roll over with grounders in the double plays.
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His jobs to hit line drives and home runs, and
we've seen no adjustment or anything to remotely see that
he's trying to make adjustments. It's it's become frustrating because
this team over the years has just been a collection
of really great individual hitters that basically are pull happy
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now because of the Crawford boxes hit home runs, and
there's been no really team hitting approach. They no one
tried to take the breaking pitch the other way or
lay off of it and see the ball up. Yesterday
he was infuriating and and I'm not giving up hope yet.
Yesterday just damn near beating me down and beat me up.
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But the one shings that does have to happen is
the hitting coaches. They need to go there. There has
been nothing done this year, and I'm like, really, Diaz
is the one that stands out. I think al Tubas
because he's been pulling the ball so much in recent years,
he forgot how to go the other way, and he'll
he won't be able to do that. But like Diaz,
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is the classic case of someone where I saw no
adjustments or anything this year, and I don't see anything
in any given game to say, you know what, I
see how the teams are attacking this hitter. It's just
each individual hitter is trying to figure it out. And
we don't have Tucker. You know, we don't have Tucker.
We don't have Bregnant anymore. You got the injuries, and
you've got some minor leaguers batting, and they're overmatch at times.
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Case in point, last night, Zach Cole, you know, this
left he just carved him up.
Speaker 6 (01:32:50):
And then Cam.
Speaker 10 (01:32:51):
Smith has been continuously late throughout the year. He sort
of took the ball the opposite way early in the season,
but I think a lot of the reasons he goes
the other because he's fundamentally late, so and with no
adjustments there. It's just been frustrating. But I'm holding out
a little bit of hope.
Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
We'll see what happens over Yeah, sorry, Jim, we lost
you man. Apologize for that.
Speaker 5 (01:33:12):
But now there's a lot of things that we can
cover because there is a lot to work off what
he just brought up. So we'll do that work in
Roger and then we will get into the Texans a
little bit too, as we continue here on a Western
Wednesday Sports Talk seven ninety for.
Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
The Shawn Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Continued O show TEXTO. I mean he is he is
an old school, old school listener.
Speaker 5 (01:33:39):
I mean I've known O show for over fifteen years,
and he sent us all a save us Samson and
a gift of Kelvin Samson, which I fired back with
Michael Clark Duncan from Talladega Knights. Don't you put that
evil on me? Stay away from Kelvin Samson, all right? Like,
let I think that certain teams and certain person that
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are kind of impervious to oh man, you know Houston sports,
like the Astros were for the longest time, you know,
on once they started winning, it was like they'll get
it figured out, They'll be all right, don't worry, like
those guys are still those guys, and you know it
was one of those all right, Now, we need to
get the Texans to do this. When we thought we
had that a couple of years ago. Clearly we don't
right now, but yeah, don't, don't. Don't do that to
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Let's let you of H basketball be you of H basketball.
I want to see a national title like everyone else.
But what's happening right now? And let's throw the rockets
in there too with the Fred van Vliet News yesterday,
like guys, you know, like the saging or something like
we need to do something. We need to see a seance.
(01:34:43):
I don't, I don't know what we have to do,
but like somebody broke something, somebody stole something, somebody did
something to have us in the predicament that we're in
right now with the three major sports teams.
Speaker 6 (01:34:55):
Kelvin Samson is just working his way into success everywhere
right like the fact that they might be able to
play at home because they're like, we don't want to host.
Speaker 9 (01:35:05):
What's what.
Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
Host? You guys are gonna be there? What do you care? Yeah,
HCU would you like to host?
Speaker 4 (01:35:13):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (01:35:14):
HCU basketball having people watch like remember like when they
had like the old like press table aprons and now
they've got the led boards, so it lets you know,
like you know, hey hosted by Rice University or by
I U p U. I yeah, if it's in Indiana,
because I mean that's probably upperdu was able to get
there yesterday last year?
Speaker 6 (01:35:32):
What was the yes So I was in Indianapolis and
I was in Wichita, Whichita State was the host for
uh the Wichita Regional and then Indianapolis.
Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Was it I U p U? I probably who.
Speaker 6 (01:35:44):
I'm trying to think what other colleges are in Indianapolis,
but they're not.
Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
D one, D three or something. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (01:35:51):
Indianapolis closes too early. Indianapolis and Wichita, both of those
I was not a fan of either city.
Speaker 5 (01:35:58):
Matt Thomas is a big Indian Apple plus guy, and
I really why because you know, everything's right they are.
Everything's walking distance and the tunnels and all of that right.
Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
Night games.
Speaker 6 (01:36:10):
What happens when Matt is done calling a Pacers game
and it's ten o'clock at night and you want to
go get something to eat where yard house I call
those yard house cities because the only thing San Antonio
is like this too. You're a yard house city. The
only thing open past ten is yard house baseball games
over basketball games.
Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
Over.
Speaker 6 (01:36:28):
You're covering a primetime football game, which I know those
other than Indianapolis, those those cities don't have NFL.
Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
Where do you want to go?
Speaker 5 (01:36:36):
Eat only thing that's opens yard house? There you go
yard house cities. Well, you at least got that going
for you. A hell of a beer selection if you
want that. But someone three, two and two, five seven
ninety is the number to get in.
Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
Roger wants to wain. Good morning, Roger, good mor jail.
Speaker 15 (01:36:52):
Let me find out Sean's out there somewhere with voodoo
dogs picking needles in our franchise.
Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
You know, it's funny you mentioned that.
Speaker 5 (01:37:00):
I mean, because this all started when Sean went away,
so you might not be wrong. I mean maybe there
was some shaman or somebody over in Hawaii upset.
Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
I don't put it past him.
Speaker 15 (01:37:11):
A bridge hunt. Jeez manw what is going on anyway?
Let's just talk about the people that are here, like so, yes,
the injuries are a big part of what happened with
the Assos this year, what's still happening, and hopefully we
can remedy that with the few games we have remaining.
That being said, what about the guys like next year?
(01:37:31):
What are we gonna do the fix the guys that
have been healthy all year that have horribly underperformed, like
Diaz and Walker, like those are the two shiny examples
because those were our four or five hitters of I'm mistaken.
Those guys were supposed to be our heavy, heavy hitters.
And you know, the Das with the tippitoes and the
either the bat and his but sticking out. I've seen
(01:37:53):
that way too many times this year. Christian Walker just
wailing through fastballs, even with the guy that his fastball
was only like eighty five miles an hour. He was
with with to that guy's basketball like it was like
it was Sandy Colfax or something. I just don't understand.
I mean, people want to brand the hitting coach. Okay, fine,
if you want to get another hitting coach, do off
(01:38:15):
season workouts, get you a personal hitter to go, do
winter ball, something to keep those reps up and get
your back going for the next season. If we don't
make it to the playoffs, that's all I gotta say.
Try to work it out. Guys that were that been
here that weren't they weren't injured. Believe me, you know
we are. Injuries is part of the twenty five season
of the story for the Astro. That's the big, big story.
(01:38:37):
Uh may not be record if I'm not mistaken, But
now being said, man, this thing has got to be fixed.
And I don't even have no clue what the Texans.
I just felt like the Texans is just Texans themselves
and just wash, rinse, repeat all over again. But this US,
it's like ron Berger, he said, this scar's gonna be quickly.
So yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
Fellas that would go was appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (01:39:00):
Roger.
Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
We'll get to the Texans in a second.
Speaker 5 (01:39:02):
But I mean, you heard Joe Spota, even when he
was asked about the injuries last night, he said, no,
you still got guys in this room that can make
things happen, and that's been a problem. They haven't made
things happen. I mean, he talked about the middle of
the order right there, four five, six. Well, I mean
it's hard to get upset with the four to five
last night because they were your offense. Three singles between
(01:39:22):
two of them, only one of them hit hard. The
other two seeing ni singles that probably should have been
it fielded outs.
Speaker 6 (01:39:31):
You have name guys in the lineup, and they're not performing.
Janardaz is supposed to be better than Yaner Das has been.
Christian Walker is an All Star, was an All Star.
He's supposed to be better than he has been. These
guys are just not performing. I don't know if getting
rid of the hitting coaches is a solution. I don't
even know if getting rid of Christian Walker is a solution,
because Christian Walker right now is at the lowest value
(01:39:56):
of trade value that he has been in years. At
one point, Orioles got rid of him, and he catches
on with the Diamondbacks. Part time player, turns into a
good player and got himself a sixty million dollar contract.
But who wants a twenty million dollar first baseman that's
coming off the second worst year of his career right now.
It's just you're trying to get rid of a guy
(01:40:18):
at his lowest trade value. That's not It's not how
it's supposed to work. I just don't unless you decide
that all right, Paratis is playing first, Correa is playing third.
Al two Bay is gonna play second, though, even though
I know they don't want L two B to play second.
Jordan is dhing and then we're gonna figure it out.
(01:40:38):
For left, I think there's a greater chance that Jesu
Sanchez is flipped because he's much cheaper obviously than Christian
Walker is, or even non tendered. There's a chance him
and Chas McCormick getting non tender to save nine million,
ten million dollars than Christian Walker being traded or finding
a trade partner that is willing to give you something
(01:41:01):
of value, because getting rid of twenty million doesn't do
that much for you, or as much as you think
for you.
Speaker 5 (01:41:08):
Well, I mean one thing, you know, just before we
get into the Texans, I would like to see this
team stop giving multi year deals to guys that are
north of thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
That would be nice. That's just kind of how the
game is played.
Speaker 6 (01:41:21):
You can't because players don't get to free agency till
six years and most of these guys are going to
be north of thirty. It's just cost of doing business
and knowing that if you give a long term deal,
which the Astros don't, the inflation dictates that the end
of Walker's deal, that third year twenty million is not
going to be twenty million. Twenty million is gonna feel
(01:41:42):
like sixteen million. I know that doesn't make you feel better,
but it's just until they change, until the CBA changes, which,
by the way, very possible because there's i would say,
greater than fifty percent chance we have a lockout after
next year, Greater than fifty, greater than eighty.
Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Yeah, you're getting warmer, a very very high chance of
a lockout.
Speaker 6 (01:42:03):
And lots of things change, but the one thing that
hasn't changed is the whatever looked like a big contract
years ago no longer looks like a big contract because
of the inflation. And so I know everyone likes to
bag on the Mets for one soda. It's like, are
you gonna be paying one soda fifty one million in
fifteen years? Fifteen years from now, there's gonna be like
forty guys making fifty one million. Well, if the astros,
(01:42:27):
do you hope that you'd be getting more production? Although
he is the RBI leader, he is the RBI leader
with eighty two.
Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
He's got that going.
Speaker 5 (01:42:35):
All right, let's finally get into the Texans because, as
I mentioned, I'm calling cap on something that we heard yesterday.
We'll discuss that here on the Sean Salisbury Show. It's
a Western Wednesday edition You here Sports Talk seven ninety.
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I'm a dialard back to the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 5 (01:44:14):
At least one of the common reports that's out there
where you know, our own Aaron Wilson and your former
stop KPRC two does some work for them. Had was
critical of players, a little bit of just kind of
reading between the line, I guess freelancing out there. But
the common that him and others who report on the
team have had is well he had trouble picking up
(01:44:37):
Demko's scheme.
Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
The guy has now played what four years in the league.
Speaker 5 (01:44:42):
However long he's played in the league, he's been in
the league for some time, So you're gonna tell me
that he gets to this point in his career, and
all of a sudden he has trouble picking up a
defensive scheme for a guy that, mind you, even before
he was a coach in this league, he was coaching
his guys. I'll never forget it. When the team went
through the workout they had during the lockout over at
(01:45:04):
Rice Stadium, he was out there coaching Wade Phillips three
to four scheme to his guys, going through a walk through,
running off the field, flipping to the next page. All right, hey,
you're here, you're here, all of that, just coaching his
guys that way. Tomiko knows how to coach a defense,
and he knows how to be able to make sure
that guys, especially veteran players, understand it. So I understand.
(01:45:26):
Like DJ Benemy did a really good video breakdown. If
you haven't seen it, go look it up on Twitter
about the huge explosive play that the Texans gave up
on that pass play pass and run that then set
up the ETN touchdown. And you see immediately after Kamari
Laster pushes the guy out of bounds, he gets up
and throws out his right arm like what the hell
(01:45:47):
man to basically to CJ. Gardner Johnson, like you just
left me on an island that wasn't even my guy,
and now, like you know, people are gonna think that's me. No,
you were the one who messed up there, So now
I'm the one who has to deal with it. So
all of that and the last point that I just
brought up there, like I don't see it. I think
(01:46:08):
that there was things behind the scenes critical of teammates,
and I mean, my guess is that probably the criticism
from his perspective to guess is well, I've won a
super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
You guys have not. I know what it takes to
be able to do that.
Speaker 5 (01:46:21):
And you wonder if that started to run tired with
people and that he started to lose favor inside that building.
Speaker 6 (01:46:27):
And that works when you were playing well and you're
coming from a super Bowl winning team and you're the
one holding guys accountable when you're blowing plays like that,
which I brought that up yesterday a bunch like how
do you let Brian Thomas, who's playing like trash all
year get that open? And that key moment the defense
is the secondary is supposed to be better than this.
Trevor Lawrence sucks, but Trevor Lawrence nails that throw.
Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
Well, we figured it out. It's because CJ.
Speaker 6 (01:46:50):
Gardner Johnson blew his coverage and so you can't be
This is a seventh year in the league, by the way,
So no, I don't buy that he can't pick up
the scheme.
Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
I think it's a combination of and everyone knew this.
Speaker 6 (01:47:01):
The reason that the Eagles got rid of him, the
reason that he's been on five teams or whatever it
is in the seven years that he's in the NFL,
is because he's difficult. And when you're winning, that's okay.
You know who else is difficult? Michael Jordan, Right, Michael
Jordan's incredibly difficult Tom Brady. But it worked. Yeah, Tom
Brady was difficult, but it worked and he won. And
(01:47:22):
when you're winning, you can be difficult. But when you're
blowing coverage and helping a team that is supposed to
not only win the AFC South but dominate the AFC
South lose to a team that you should be killing,
you don't get to do that. You don't get to say,
last year, I won a Super Bowl. So you guys
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need to listen to me, because this is not last year,
and the Eagles did great about this. When their coach
comes out, Nick Sirianni comes out and says, why would
we go and celebrate last year's when we're staying in
the tunnel. That's cool. Fans enjoy it. I'm glad we
won a super Bowl. You guys enjoy it for us.
This is twenty twenty five. This isn't last year. It
(01:48:03):
feels like it's still last year to see j Gardner
Johnson where for a long time he's gonna be like, well.
Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
I want a super Bowl, so y'all got to listen
to me. I won a super Bowl, so I can't
do anything wrong.
Speaker 6 (01:48:15):
And the way that Nick Casario and the way that
Demiko Ryans want to build their locker room, they don't
want guys like that, and there aren't really guys like that.
And when you got one like that, the result needs
to be he elevates the play and as soon as
he wasn't, as soon as he was downgrading the product
that you saw on the field, get him out of here.
Speaker 5 (01:48:35):
Well, I mean, if he was Jalen Hurts and he's
in the building and he says something like that, well
then people will probably listen. If he's you know, Saquon Barkley,
same deal there. If he's Zach Bond even people might listen,
but then it's like, also, yeah you did, but how
much really were you the reason that they won the
Super Bowl last year? I get it's a team sport,
(01:48:57):
but yeah, things like that can absolutely wear thin people.
And Aaron Wilson did have some context on it. We're
gonna actually hear from him as he joined the Matt
Thomas Show with Ross yesterday on why the Texans decided
to go this direction. So we'll do that as we
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And we've been talking CJ.
Speaker 1 (01:51:31):
Gardner.
Speaker 5 (01:51:31):
Johnson being released by the Texans covered that a lot,
and you know, just our thoughts behind the reason at
least floated out there through reports of why the Texans
decided to move on from the veterans safety. But Aaron Wilson,
of course covers the team on a daily basis, does
some work for us here also KPRC two and he
(01:51:51):
was on with the Matt Thomas Show yesterday and he
talked about some of the frustrations with the veteran safety
and what led to the Texans move on from.
Speaker 13 (01:52:00):
Him, there was major friction behind the teams involving season.
We've been hearing about for weeks. We didn't know if
it was going to lead to I can do when
it comes to locker room issues, if it's going to
lead to a release or a trade or some kind
of action like a benching. That's my normal labial act
that you know, you never know to get better. Is
(01:52:20):
it festering? But I was getting feedback that he'd asked
for trade. They did not obviously entertain that that he
was complaining about his role. He wanted to blitz more often.
He did have one quarterback hit, He had no interceptions.
He was critical of teammates and their play in the secondary,
throwing guys under the bus. It was basically like almost
(01:52:42):
as if he wanted to get kicked out. A lot
of people said it was the same modus operandi, and
you know, caused him a follow the favor in other
cities across the NFL, and it was a repeat of
that behavior here with the Texans. And yeah, I mean,
you know, these are things that can cost you your job. Ultimately,
they're on in three. They don't need more problems, you know,
(01:53:04):
behind the scenes, and they've shown this before.
Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
They will move on.
Speaker 13 (01:53:07):
If they're having an issue like Deontay Johnson, we watched
him out after a playoff game that they won because
he didn't get the ball enough and he was promptly fired.
Speaker 5 (01:53:16):
And I mean to the point that Aaron just brought
up there with Deantay Johnson, I mean, now it's gotten
to a point where why.
Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
You even have him on your roster. I mean, clearly
there's a pattern here.
Speaker 5 (01:53:26):
Clearly there's a reason why teams the talent is there
at least, but then that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
Can you even get to use the talent? And CJ.
Speaker 5 (01:53:35):
Gardner Johnson better be careful because soon enough you get
that reputation, you better be really good to be able
to have that reputation stomached like Antonio Brown as a
player that people will bring up all the time. Well,
Antonio Brown, you also had patience because he was one
of the best receivers in the league. So you're willing
to stomach some things when you're just another guy that
(01:53:56):
soon enough leads to oh, you're requesting a trade. Well
guess what, you're not good enough to request the trade.
We'll just cut you loose.
Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:54:04):
He led the league in interceptions in twenty twenty two,
and the Eagles didn't bring him back. He had a
great year on defense with the Detroit Lions in twenty
twenty three when the Lions had their big resurgence under
Dan Campbell and.
Speaker 1 (01:54:15):
They didn't bring him back.
Speaker 6 (01:54:16):
He had a great year last year with the Philadelphia
Eagles and helped them win a Super Bowl, and they
traded him for Kenyon Green, who they ended up cutting.
So clearly, yeah, there is something with CJ. Gardner Johnson
where he's a lot and if you're not a quarterback
or if you're not a top pass rusher, the replacement
(01:54:38):
level of a lot of these players are a lockdown corner, right, Like,
he's kind of a does a little bit of everything
defensive back, if you're not one of those positions, or
the franchise left tackle, and even then the franchise left
tackle in Houston who was kind of a lot got traded.
So if you're not one of those guys, or even
(01:54:59):
if you are and you're our owner, is Jerry Jones, right,
Michael Parsons, franchise defensive end, one of the best pass
rushers of the past few years, still got traded because
Jerry Jones didn't want to deal with signing him to
an extension. So these guys are on a little bit
thinner ice than you would think sometimes despite the massive
amounts of talent that some of these guys have, and
(01:55:20):
teams will just not deal with it and get rid
of them and make them up in the aggregate. And
I think the Texans have other safeties. Jimmy Ward is
potentially back at some point with his case now going away,
even though there's a civil case still pending. And you're
relying on the younger guys, the Jalen Peatrees who is
(01:55:40):
now healthy, and Kylen Bullock who is now healthy, and
Bulock hasn't played all that well, and Lasser hasn't played
as well. And it's the secondary that was supposed to
be the best.
Speaker 1 (01:55:49):
In the league.
Speaker 6 (01:55:49):
That's what we heard training camp from them, not from
other analysts. From them, We're going to be the best
secondary in the league. Well so far through three weeks,
played okay, but gotten burned when it matters most and
already had to fire one of the best players on
the best secondary in the league because he's a problem.
Speaker 5 (01:56:09):
Well, and to the point you brought up to about
the Micah Parsons situation, I mean that's the NFL as
a whole. The league looks to get younger and cheaper
across the board, even for guys that are still productive.
If you're too expensive, they'll look for a way to
get rid of you. So you give them a reason
to be able to move on from you, they're going
to choose the reason to move on from you, And
clearly he did.
Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
They just they.
Speaker 6 (01:56:30):
Don't deal with those kind of guys in the locker
room well, but they're willing to give it a shot. Right,
Like Stefan Diggs, we know is a lot and I'm
curious to see what would have happened if Steffan Diggs
had finished out the year last year with the Texans. Instead,
he got hurt halfway through the year. And you know
from most things like he was doing fine and he
(01:56:51):
was okay, but he was a guy that had a
history of stuff like that, right, like trade requests and
just kind of getting really competitive and being upset about
certain things. And to Aaron's point with Deontay Johnson, like
I was in that locker room and it was a
bizarre scene where he's having to be consoled by teammates.
You just won a playoff game, yeah, right, And Deontay
(01:57:13):
Johnson previously had not played on good teams. He'd played
on sort of the back end of the Pittsburgh Steelers
when they were super good, and then he kind of
caught the end where now they're nine to eight every year.
And then he was on the Browns like and and
then the Ravens, who are good, but he wasn't there
very long. And he goes to the Texans who are
(01:57:35):
winning and playing better, and they win a playoff game
supposed to be a great moment, like this is awesome.
You're gonna get a plaoff bonus, you're a gonna get paid.
You get paid extra money because you won a playoff game.
So what you didn't produce? I mean, you know, what
are you pouting? The paycheck's gonna hit up and collect,
and then a second paycheck's gonna hit and he's like
mad and getting consoled by teammates.
Speaker 5 (01:57:54):
Get I get the competitiveness of it, but I mean
it is also too it's kind of like, no, you're
a man. I mean, yeah, you're here because Tank Dell
got hurt. That's a huge reason. But it's going to
be the Nico Collins show. It's going to be him
first and foremost, and I mean, I get it, probably
his perspective of really, you know, Xavier Hutchinson, he contributes
(01:58:16):
more than I do, Jared Wayne contributes.
Speaker 1 (01:58:18):
More than I do.
Speaker 5 (01:58:19):
Like that's that's where he's coming at from that, and
I get that. But from the CJ. Gardner Johnson's side,
what's from his perspective, what what got him so frustrated?
What got him so mad with this team?
Speaker 6 (01:58:32):
It's the younger guys that don't know necessarily how to win.
And so I think that he expected that this is
a super Bowl contender, because that's what he said in
training camp, and he comes in and a lot of
the issues of the defense this year has been that
they have not been disciplined. And so you got a
guy who's coming off a super Bowl champion, who's coming
off a well, well run, tight ship. Jalen Hurts given
(01:58:54):
his you know his quotes, Chamar Moore quotes up there
at the podium, and you start the year oh and one, Okay, fine,
you lost to Matt Stafford and the Rams. You start
the year zho and two and the way that that
last drive happened, definitely not happy about it, Like, all right,
well now we're losing and I'm not doing the role
that I want to do, and I got teammates over
here that are making more money than me, who I
(01:59:15):
don't think are that good. And I don't like the
attitude of these people and what you sold me in
Houston of being a team on the rise and now
we're oh and three and the lost of the Jaguars.
That's where he's coming from. That's not what he signed
up for.
Speaker 5 (01:59:28):
And Aaron Wilson had a little bit more on that
with Matt and Ross yesterday from the Gardner Johnson's side
of the situation.
Speaker 13 (01:59:38):
He had a certain expectation of what he thought his
role and the way he saw himself as a player
in the defense, and that did not coincide with how
the team saw him. And so you got that kind
of disconnect, Matt. So you can either not put up
with it or you can decide we're gonna move on,
all right. And we went surprised me if he'd asked
(01:59:59):
to be have not heard that yet, efforting that, you know,
as I continue to report throughout the day, but had
asked for or trade previously. So we'll see what happened here.
But he wasn't happy, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
So there you go.
Speaker 5 (02:00:17):
I mean, and it's also too I think part of
you hearing Aaron say that is it's like, who are
you to demand like how you're used? Like I guess
like in his mind he thinks, all right, I'm coming
to a team that needs a different mindset, needs somebody
to be a veteran leader in the secondary. And this
is how we did things where we just won a
super Bowl, where you've got guys that are like, no, dude,
(02:00:37):
we're still pros, Like you're not really the guy that
can deliver.
Speaker 6 (02:00:41):
That type of message. I just, yeah, I don't think
that CJ. Gardner Johnson has the cachet in the NFL,
especially given the fact that he is on his third
technically but fourth team in four years. Right Eagles, Lions, Eagles,
Texans that the Eagles brought him back, but he let
the league in interceptions they got rid of him, Like
that says something. And so, yeah, you can't step into
(02:01:04):
a new situation where you just got traded away from
for a bust first round pick and go to a
coach who is a former player, a high level NFL
player in Dimiko Ryans and go, hey, you're doing it wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:01:17):
This is how you use me? Well, what is Demiko
Ryan's supposed to say to that?
Speaker 5 (02:01:21):
Be like, broh, I get that you've got the Super Bowl,
But in terms of coaching, chops and playing, trust me,
I know where you think you're coming from and you're
not coming from it. So that's pretty much how that
conversation went. Speaking of coaches and odd tactics, well, somebody
has a shot to fire at them, and also somebody
(02:01:44):
else catching astray.
Speaker 1 (02:01:45):
We'll let you hear from them.
Speaker 5 (02:01:47):
Next right here is it is the Shawn Salisbury Show
on a Western Wednesday, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (02:01:55):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (02:01:57):
Are you not detang.
Speaker 10 (02:02:00):
Begin?
Speaker 7 (02:02:03):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:02:04):
Got on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (02:02:09):
I don't know what's out there that is going to
be a reasonable replacement for Fred van Vliet, given how
difficult the Western conferences every year.
Speaker 5 (02:02:18):
This is one that if AC is listening, which, by
the way, the Astros lose last night five to one.
Speaker 1 (02:02:23):
Guardians and Red Sox both win.
Speaker 9 (02:02:24):
C J.
Speaker 5 (02:02:25):
Gardner Johnson gets released by the Texans, and we'll get
to what I tease too about shots and strays. We
it's gonna make sense here in just a few But
if if Adam Clanton's listening right now. He's not gonna
like my suggestion.
Speaker 6 (02:02:40):
Russell Westbrook, Jose Alvarado, Jose al Grand Theft Alverado.
Speaker 1 (02:02:44):
Yes, I don't hate it.
Speaker 6 (02:02:47):
Defense first guy undersized can knock down a three.
Speaker 1 (02:02:52):
I don't hate it.
Speaker 5 (02:02:54):
Plus, I mean a little bit of the edge that
you've lost this offseason with the trade of Dylan Brooks.
Speaker 1 (02:02:59):
But all so now, Fred van Vliet, because ye have
put you over the top.
Speaker 5 (02:03:03):
Though, I think in terms of just sheer distribution and
that edge, I think that absolutely he can help you,
for sure. But now it's the problem is New Orleans
looks at it as last year they were incredibly banged
up and injured and that's why their season didn't go
the way that they wanted it to. So I'm sure
they probably look at it and say, well, wait a minute, No,
(02:03:24):
we've got our guys back, got a skinnier Zion Williamson.
Speaker 9 (02:03:28):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (02:03:28):
So now we feel like we're we're going to be
back in the middle of the Western Conference race. So
while we trade with somebody else that's going to be
jocking for the same position with.
Speaker 6 (02:03:37):
Us Zion less zadaranz not eating the Begnets and the
red beans and rice for a little bit. He looked
pretty good. Zion with the goatee, though, looks weird. I'm
so used to clean shaven Zion.
Speaker 5 (02:03:49):
I feel like, you know, goatee's were a nineties and
early two thousand thing that Now, if you're going to
go facial hair, you either got to go full on
beard or mustache.
Speaker 6 (02:03:58):
Jade Murray, Jade Murray's rocking like the nineteen ninety nine.
I listened to Third Eye Blind O T and Zion
looking like Dustin Hermanson. Yes, exactly, Yeah, Zion's got the
weird one. Who's a player that I wish they were
like Charlie Sheen and The Arrival. You know, who's a
player I wish the Rockets would get. But I don't
(02:04:19):
think it's gettable for them. Is Trey Murphy be good?
Trey Murphy's good Pelicans if they ever got rid of
all their their core. Trey Murphy is gonna be on
a good Someday. Trey Murphy is gonna be on a
good team and he's gonna be a key player in
a playoffs.
Speaker 1 (02:04:33):
It might be Trey.
Speaker 5 (02:04:35):
Deadline is when you got to make this happen because
I mean I think you know, as you're getting the
camp doing all of that, it's like, why kind of
cut off our nose despite our face early on? But
I think that probably now it is going to have
to be the Aaron Holiday Reed Shepherd Show. And then
if you determine we need an upgrade, that's when you
see the upgrade that they try to go after somebody.
Speaker 6 (02:04:57):
I kind of don't mind the Alvarado idea. Honestly, this
is Adam Clanton, not like Jose Alvarado.
Speaker 5 (02:05:02):
Yeah, just you know, he's a little bit of an
ish starter and all of those things. But I've told
him numerous times just from being around him at Georgia Tech,
I said, no, he's a guy kind of like Dylan Brooks.
Speaker 1 (02:05:13):
You love him if he's on your team.
Speaker 5 (02:05:14):
This city would love Jose Alvarado on their team because
that's the thing. He would start doing this to other
teams and kind of like we couldn't stand Mono Genobili
for all those years. I wasn't like for him like
trying to start things with people. It's just gotta hate
that guy. But then you kind of think about it
and you're like, but if we had him on our team,
I think I'd really like that guy. But god, dude,
(02:05:34):
you want to talk about a fan base that's like
so just insufferable. Those mid two thousand Spurs teams when
I was in college there in the San Antonio area
and just having to hear, oh the Spurs, the Spurs,
and it's just like, oh my god, they win basketball games,
they don't walk on water, they're fine, the International Spurs.
Speaker 1 (02:05:54):
Oh God, I mean, it's just all of it.
Speaker 5 (02:05:56):
And then of course Greg Popovich, like dude, soon enough,
like his whole just bit of oh he's a cranky
old man.
Speaker 1 (02:06:03):
All right, great, that's cool.
Speaker 5 (02:06:05):
But then once he didn't have Tim Duncan and Monogenobli
and Tony Parker or even Kawhi Leonard anymore, what happened
to him?
Speaker 1 (02:06:12):
Yeah, they stopped winning.
Speaker 6 (02:06:13):
And then he got Wemby and unfortunately he said he
had some health issues and he turned it over and
now they're going to have to try to they could
so healthy.
Speaker 5 (02:06:22):
Wemby is going to be unbelievable. Working with a Kim Olijawan,
working with Hakeem.
Speaker 6 (02:06:27):
I saw that, and Hakeem was working with Kris Sanak,
of you of h also recently as well. Hakeem's out
there getting busy. Oh he's been doing that for years.
Speaker 5 (02:06:35):
Yeah, he had worked with Lebron, he'd worked with Kobe,
tons of players, I think John even Giannis too. So
it's one of those you get an opportunity to work
with a team, you take advantage of it because well,
I mean, there is a little bit of a post
game still left and you go look at old highlights
of that footwork with kim Olaijauan. Yeah, go learn from
that guy because he'll teach you a few things. He
can't give you the footwork that he had, but at
(02:06:58):
least he can learn you a thing. Or speaking of
somebody who once they didn't have somebody around when we
started to look at them differently, Bill Belichick, yep, and
you know, hey, the Patriots way.
Speaker 1 (02:07:09):
No, it was the Tom Brady way.
Speaker 5 (02:07:10):
And once you lost number twelve, you've quickly realized, hey,
Mac Jones isn't Tom Brady. And this thing is now
over with Well, of course he's coaching in the college
game now and a huge part of his story now
is Jordan Hudson, who would and we all know the
age difference. I don't have to remind people, but also
to seemingly her being overbearing with the program and kind
(02:07:33):
of overstepping boundaries.
Speaker 1 (02:07:35):
So I believe this.
Speaker 5 (02:07:36):
Was before the game the other day where they're playing
against UCF and she's on the sidelines talking with Bill,
and people are like, what is this? Because you will see,
like people, they'll bring up the comparison of Nick Saban,
Miss Terry and somebody I did hear say, well, you know,
miss Terry's on the sidelines. I'm like, she's in the
tunnel as he's walking out there. Quick, hug really quick,
(02:07:58):
have a good game. And then afterwards, of course you
know she goes up to the booth and he coaches
the game. I mean, that's that's all part of it. Well,
the guys on Wake Up Barstool on FS one, we're
talking about it, and of course John Gruden is part
of Barstool Now, and they asked him about it. And
while the shot was intended for Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson,
(02:08:21):
somebody else caught astray.
Speaker 1 (02:08:23):
Take a listen.
Speaker 16 (02:08:24):
I've never seen anything like that. You know, Mike Lombardi
works for North Carolina. I've heard him criticize me several times.
I'm sure he'll produce a TikTok today explaining exactly what
was going on there.
Speaker 5 (02:08:37):
And Mike Lombardi, of course, former NFL executive who's the
GM of the UNC football program, and he is somebody
that did spend time in the media, and I think
that probably there is a little bit of don't you
feel like there is like kind of a like once
you cross that line, you kind of really have to
dial it back once you get back in, because there
(02:08:59):
might be some of the league who still don't trust
you because they're like, well, you might still talk to
those people at NFL network or at ESPN or wherever else.
So I can't get where he's coming from from that
perspective where he's like, hey, wait a minute, man, you
were one of the media types coming after me. So yeah,
you know, you want to try to like hill for
this guy and try to, like, you know, try to
(02:09:20):
try to explain why this type of behavior is okay,
all right, fine, I'll take my shots at you.
Speaker 6 (02:09:25):
And Michael Barty being in the media for a while
should have a greater understanding of what that entails and
knowing the angles and how it works, and why John
Gruden would feel that way. However, I'm gonna push back
on Gruden here for a little bit. You're making fun
of Michael Lombardi doing tiktoks. John Gruden has a ticket.
You seen John Gruden's TikTok? Oh, they're great. The unboxing Yeah,
(02:09:47):
I got a box today from the LSU Tigers.
Speaker 1 (02:09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:09:51):
Man, Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Great Dell, bit Tyrone,
Matthew the honey Badger, the got me feeling nicey thing
where there's like two camera cuts. You can't tell me
that John Gruden is not thinking through how the tiktoks
are made. He is because there's multiple camera angles. So
(02:10:13):
don't you pot Colin Kettle Black right, don't give me
the he's gonna make a TikTok about it, buddy, have
you seen your TikTok?
Speaker 1 (02:10:20):
You're active as well.
Speaker 5 (02:10:21):
But the difference is, I mean, he's in the media
and Grutin to his point, has even said he wants
to get back into coaching, so I think if he does,
he's going to get rid of all of that. But
I mean it is also to the point that I
brought up about Lombardi is well, he kind of run
into that too, of.
Speaker 1 (02:10:35):
All right, well who else do you talk to?
Speaker 9 (02:10:36):
Dude?
Speaker 5 (02:10:37):
But I mean I think he's been coaching long enough
that he probably would understand that that's part of it. Yeah,
I mean, he's he gets to be on a show
where it gets to say his piece. Now, there is
very hard to defend you and see at this point
they're not winning. Belichick is clearly not as into it
or at least trying to treat these college kids the
way that he did Richard Seymour, which doesn't all work.
(02:11:01):
The girlfriend thing is obviously no matter how many people
went after Pablo Torri, He's right, it's weird, and it
colors everything that he does at UNC and everything as
a coach, and he is ruining his legacy because that
is there's something in psychology called the primacy and the
recency effect. You remember in a list of twenty things
that I tell you, you're gonna remember the first thing, you're
(02:11:21):
gonna remember the last thing. And so the things that
you are gonna remember about Bill Belichick years from now
is six super Bowls. Young girlfriend doesn't matter. Everything else in.
Speaker 6 (02:11:31):
Between, how brilliant he was as a coach, or that
his dad was at Navy or all these other things.
Speaker 1 (02:11:36):
Great football coach, young girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (02:11:37):
That's it, And it just kind of flies in the
face of what we thought we knew about the guy
from when he was the control freak there in New
England and now I mean allowing things like this and
you're just.
Speaker 1 (02:11:47):
Kind of like, dude, I mean, seriously, man, what are
you doing.
Speaker 5 (02:11:50):
I mean, I think most of us understand, but at
the same time, I mean, it's just like, don't do
this to yourself, like it almost is for me, Like
why did you come back like just the retired. Just
stay retired and do your little airplane pose, you know
photos and you know she's a a mermaid and you're
a fisherman Halloween photos.
Speaker 1 (02:12:10):
Do all of that. That's fine.
Speaker 6 (02:12:12):
You're retired, enjoy life, get in the Banning show once
a week. You know, when you got other people who
are starting to count on YouTube, keep your job, then yeah,
it becomes a problem.
Speaker 1 (02:12:22):
Man. It's yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:12:24):
It's bizarre that he especially got into college football, and
especially in this era of college football, because previously on
this show we were talking about how Dabo Sweeney and
Mike Gundy were sort of or are sort of getting
phased out Gundy already did Sweeney might be tot seat
getting phased out.
Speaker 1 (02:12:43):
Of how coach somewhere else? Man?
Speaker 6 (02:12:45):
Yeah, oh, when how different the game we want? We
won the league last eight out of ten years? Is
that not good? Tyler from Spartanburg? How Daris, I ain't
gonna listen to you, Tyler? And that also ended Collins
to the Dabos show. Those guys are getting phased out
because they don't want to adjust. So now you have
a guy who hasn't had to adjust for however many
(02:13:06):
years and was in the pros, which is in one
sense more work, in another sense less work, right, Like
there's no recruiting and having to deal with dad and
the kids and all the like, dealing with high school kids.
And I don't have kids, and I imagine many of
our listeners do, and many of our listeners have high
school kids. And I'm sure you know that dealing with
high school kids is probably real annoying versus dealing with
(02:13:30):
twenty five thirty year old grown men in the NFL.
So now Belichick signed up to deal with the recruiting
aspect of not just the college kids he's coaching, but
the recruiting aspect of dealing with high school kids.
Speaker 5 (02:13:41):
What does Bill Belichick know? He clearly knows something about
college kids, but knows how to relate to the youth.
Speaker 6 (02:13:47):
Yeah, what does he know about this new areas the
youth of college football with the high school kids? Like
imagine explaining to Bill Belichick like the rise of commitment
graphics and like why would he care? And that's something
that is a meeting I guarantee you he had at
(02:14:08):
UNC and is something the staff and that meeting was
like Bill, this is actually important and there's a reason
we're doing this on your Tuesday. And he's sitting there
staring at him like what the hell is this? And
they're like, no, now, you signed up for doing college
This is an important part of your week.
Speaker 5 (02:14:25):
Yeah, you gotta go to high school basketball games, all
that kind of stuff part of it, Billy, All right,
let's get back into the astros because they tell you
that they understand the situation. But is it too late?
We'll discuss here. It is a Sean Salisbury show on
a Western Wednesday, Sports Talk seven to ninety, But lunch
is right around the corner. I mean we're halfway through
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Speaker 2 (02:16:22):
For the Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (02:16:26):
We'll squeeze in Brandon here on the phone line, says
we continue along on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (02:16:32):
Good morning, Brandon, good morning, how are you good man?
Speaker 10 (02:16:36):
I was whistling on our way home.
Speaker 7 (02:16:40):
The Astros.
Speaker 9 (02:16:43):
You're you're very very upset.
Speaker 10 (02:16:47):
I was.
Speaker 5 (02:16:48):
It was so much, Brandon that I had to have
Mattress Mac Collin to try to calm me down.
Speaker 1 (02:16:52):
And I appreciate him doing that.
Speaker 6 (02:16:54):
But uh yeah, I think probably I felt like most
of us did, where it's like, God, we should have
won that game.
Speaker 12 (02:17:01):
Yeah, and I heard him on the phone.
Speaker 5 (02:17:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know Mac Mac gave us a call.
It was awesome to catch up with him, for sure.
Speaker 7 (02:17:12):
Yeah, I am.
Speaker 14 (02:17:17):
Can you do me a favor, I'll do my best.
Speaker 12 (02:17:22):
If you hear Mattress Mac say, Astro.
Speaker 5 (02:17:27):
Do the thing, okay, Yeah, I mean I'm sure he's
probably even listening right now to appreciate it, buddy.
Speaker 1 (02:17:34):
We'll catch up you soon.
Speaker 5 (02:17:36):
Yeah, yeah, Max, Max always listening, man, So no appreciate
that or Roy or anybody else over there at Uh
you know, between Tidwell and Parker, you know the spot
shit right up there.
Speaker 1 (02:17:47):
The man's the man.
Speaker 5 (02:17:50):
You come to Houston and you know, I mean, you
think they win that World Series in twenty twenty two.
If Philly fans don't disrespect Mattress Mac, you think that
we're able to feel even better about the World Series win.
If Paul Wall and Frankie j and how about them
Strows don't mention way back when they disrespected Mattress Mack. Yeah,
you think any of that happens, No, that was That
(02:18:10):
was a fun twenty twenty two with Mattress Mack in
Philia was so fun going up the rocky steps with
him and just the you know, the fans that he
brought with and you know, doing the stuff for the community.
Speaker 1 (02:18:23):
That was good.
Speaker 6 (02:18:23):
Good to see that Houston kind of has has an
icon like that's a little little character because they don't
get a lot of love, especially in the national media,
and to sort of tie that in and have, just
like Mattress mac be the character that he is not
a bad character to have, right.
Speaker 1 (02:18:41):
He's the best.
Speaker 5 (02:18:42):
I mean he and I've told the story before for
those of you that don't know it. I got to
go to Rome on a Catholic pilgrimage because he paid
for four kids and a faculty member from every school
in the Catholic diocese to go back in two thousand
and two. So I'll always be appreciative of that guy.
So macfeel listening.
Speaker 11 (02:18:59):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:19:00):
You're always welcome on here, but you're also welcome into
it's someone three two one two five seven ninety against
someone three two one two five at seven ninety continue
the Astros conversation because we all some things said last
night that I was like, Okay, hey.
Speaker 1 (02:19:14):
Cool, love to hear it.
Speaker 5 (02:19:15):
Just probably would have been cool to have heard it
in like August or something like that. I don't know,
but we'll do that here before we hand it over
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I Live for The Shaan Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 5 (02:21:54):
Seb one three, two, one, two five seven ninety is
the number to get in. We heard Jospotis comments earlier
the bats have to factor. It's we've got to have
better at bats. And then you know somebody asking, oh, well,
what about the injuries, and he was like, no, there's
guys in that room that can get the job done.
Speaker 1 (02:22:09):
They're just not getting the job done.
Speaker 5 (02:22:10):
In so many words, he said, paraphrasing, it wasn't that pointed,
but you could tell that frustration had boiled over. And
I talked about where you know, the camera shot in
the dugout Carlos Correa, Like there's frustration, Like it's a hey,
we can't just continue to rest on what we've done
and be comfortable with you know, hey, we'll figure it out.
Like clearly there needs to be even more urgency for
(02:22:32):
how this thing is going.
Speaker 1 (02:22:34):
There's there does and.
Speaker 6 (02:22:36):
You have five games left, you are in danger of
not making the playoffs for the first time in nearly
a decade, and you're either gonna be able to get
the job done or you're not, and you're gonna have
a very upset fan base this whole offseason who has
gotten used to winning, who has gotten used to the
inevitability of the Astros being able to get it done
when their backs are against the wall. And that's the
(02:22:58):
reason that Joe spot is so calm in these sitsuations
is because the Astros have been inevitable. But right now,
you know, it feels inevitable that they can't hit.
Speaker 5 (02:23:07):
Yeah, no, that's definitely true, and that's been kind of
the story for much of the season.
Speaker 1 (02:23:11):
Larry and Stafford wants away in good morning Larry.
Speaker 7 (02:23:14):
Hey, good morning, Bulldog. Don't make me go and pull
out that old dog fish shirt man in head to Laverne,
your man, when you play the King like that, man,
you know that that just that just triggers me to
be able to go do a kig stand man. Yeah, yeah,
sure it does. And you know what I'm talking about.
But let's talk Hey, Ari, It's always good to hear
(02:23:34):
you in here too, Man, appreciate it watching you for
a long time, brother, and uh, you know, hopefully good
things are in line for you man on your next adventure.
Speaker 10 (02:23:42):
Man.
Speaker 7 (02:23:42):
But look, let's talk Astros real quick, Bulldog. Yeah, the
DSE boys are starting to act like they have no
interest in trying to get into the playoffs, and that's
indictment of what's going on over there and what's been
going on all season, because this thing in the West
should have been wrapped up about a month ago when
we had an opportunity to put Seattle in the dirt.
But that isn't what happened. I'll tell you what better happened.
(02:24:03):
They better figure out how to win the next five
games because if they missed the playoffs. You are absolutely right,
there's gonna be a fan base around here that's gonna
question Jim Crane and a lot of the decision making
that him and Dana have done all season.
Speaker 9 (02:24:16):
And there's no excuse.
Speaker 7 (02:24:18):
Man, if you're trying to convince me that there's no
talent in that locker room over there on Crawford, Man,
that's right across from Vic and Anthony's, I'm gonna be
convinced that you don't know the hell you talking about
when you come to talking about sports. Now, they got
to get this thing figured out. They're playing the A's
and the California Angels. Come on, man, they have nothing
to play for. Figure it out, astros are I'm gonna
(02:24:38):
be pissed. Now, let's talk about the Texas real quick.
I don't have a problem with them getting rid of CJ.
Speaker 1 (02:24:43):
If he's a problem.
Speaker 7 (02:24:45):
See, I'm believed in the squad Man and Demiko Rise
and them boys believe that that dude was causing that
kind of interest and conflict over there. Get his ass
out of the locker room because here's what I know
about cancer, and I don't know if CJ was a
cancer or not. I just knew that he was a
dog and he played on my defense. But if you're
gonna let somebody critique you and criticize other players in
the locker room when he ain't doing his job, now,
(02:25:07):
dogs that ain't gonna work, get your ass packed up.
Speaker 9 (02:25:09):
We'll send you.
Speaker 7 (02:25:10):
Are you going on the Philly or wherever you're gonna
gonna go, And good riddings, man, because here's the thing
we're going through. Oh and three, we don't have time
for all this kind of silliness. They better figure out
how to beat these damn Titans, because if they lose
to the Titans, then you might as well go ahead
and fold the book and close it and put it
on the chef, because.
Speaker 1 (02:25:27):
It is not no coming back from that.
Speaker 7 (02:25:29):
And all you texting fans that I out here wondering about, well,
Larry ain't going to the Titans game because he don't
believe in the squad. You a damn lie. Let me explain.
Some of y'all have family members that have decided that
they want to plan a wedding and.
Speaker 1 (02:25:42):
Have the wedding in September, and.
Speaker 7 (02:25:44):
We have had this discussion before that how stupid that is.
Now I choose to continue to stay married. I am
not happy about it, but I'm going to go to
this wedding because i have to go because I'm married.
But if me not going to the Titans game, that's
hard for me. But I'll tell you what. I'm gonna
be back with my boys, get back on track.
Speaker 5 (02:26:05):
And ah, there you go, Larry appreciate it. Yeah, no
fall weddings hashtag no fall weddings.
Speaker 1 (02:26:09):
We know that.
Speaker 5 (02:26:10):
Although my brother one year decided that Georgia, Florida weekend
was when he and my sister in law would get married.
And they decided that and it worked out because it
was Mark Rick's final game. So I was like, good
thing I didn't have to be there for that.
Speaker 6 (02:26:23):
I got two of them coming up back to back
weeks in October, an Indian wedding and Reno and an
Albanian wedding here that I am officiating.
Speaker 1 (02:26:32):
Side note, Well, I have the platform.
Speaker 6 (02:26:34):
If you'd like me to officiate your wedding, you know
where to find me on social media.
Speaker 1 (02:26:38):
I am now of the Universal Life.
Speaker 6 (02:26:40):
Church for the cloth of the cloth minister, so I
can officiate your.
Speaker 5 (02:26:44):
Wedding if needed. God bless you son, good for you.
There you go, so Ari Alexander, He's available for you
in your.
Speaker 6 (02:26:51):
Ceremonies, especially Oshanatova for Rushashana.
Speaker 5 (02:26:54):
That's it, yeah, I saw that yesterday. So happy celebration
to you and the chosen ones. Yes here in the
in the fall months. But no, appreciate everybody for joining
us here on the show. Appreciate you for the last
few days, man, I appreciate it. It's been wonderful. It's
been awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:27:09):
Man. He's our Alexander and for Sewan. Sewan back in tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (02:27:12):
Don't forget Astros GM Dana Brown gonna join us for
his weekly visit tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (02:27:17):
He's Triple E.
Speaker 5 (02:27:18):
Emmanuel Elmore doing a great job as always. Back there,
Dan Matthews here with you the Matt Thomas Show with
Ross coming up next. We will talk to you in
twenty hours, hopefully after an Astros win.
Saulsbury.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this. Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc Troupes, longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Dan Matthews. This is the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Prey is racing it and Javier has a drop d
Kurt scores one nothing. A's I think with the tough sky,
the infielders had trouble seeing it. Javier wanted being the
closest to it. It landed right next to him as
he reached for it, and the A's lead one nothing,
the one, and du Bond pops it up left side
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of the infield double the steps in the foul ground.
That's Harris and he makes the catch and what do
you know? Another infield pop up hit by the Astros
were pitches you need to be calling strikes brown ball
left side, just out of the reach of Walker. It
goes in the right field around third Soderstrom, he'll score
into third base, goes Rooker, a two out RBI single
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for Wilson, his second hit tonight, and the A's lead
is four to one.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Sanchez chest that is set at his chest.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
This one sliced into the left field, slicing back to
the left fielder and it's Soderstrom, the left fielder, make
thing catch on the jog for the third out of
the inning.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
So it's another one.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Two, three for Tyler Ferguson two to two, bouncing ball
left side to his left field. They get us a
third baseman, Harris a second for one on the first
just in time to get the double play. Kelly brings
the hands together. Here's the two swinging a mess. Myers
goes down on a high fastball, and that is the
ball game. The Athletics beat the Astros five to one
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to take the first game of this three game series.
Astros have lost four in a row and their playoff
hopes are on life support.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
You know, I think a lot of people probably expect
that disdain Dan is going to be on full effect today,
but I think I've kind of hit the numb phase
at this point. With that, we say away, we go,
good morning here Sean Salisbury's show. We're not gonna let
this ruin our vibe. No, no, you want to get
three hits. You want to have two of them be
basically infield singles and another one being a seeing I single,
(02:17):
and the other team is able to actually put meaningful
contact on the baseball and win a game, then you
go right ahead, and then if you want to afterwards
talk about the urgency in the clubhouse and everything, you
go right ahead. You've had a lot of time to
be able to do that, and now you're in the
situation you're in and it's validated Ari Alexander and for Sean,
good morning, buddy.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Morning.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Just does not feel like there is a sense of urgency,
does it, Especially when you were playing a division opponent.
You know you have six games left to make the playoffs.
Your season is over if you don't get this done.
And the same narrative that we hear out of the
Astros every year, and they've earned the benefit of the
doubt for almost a decade of you stay calm, you
stay even keeled, been here before, know how to handle it,
(03:03):
and that's you know, worked for them, hashtag built for this. Yeah,
worked for them year after year after year, except last
year it didn't. They got in, they won the division,
and they got smoked by a Detroit Tigers team who
frankly did not have enough pitching to compete in the playoffs.
You heard what aj Hinch said when they set up
their pitching. It's trek Scooball and then it's pitching chaos
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that should not be winning you serieses in the playoffs,
and the Astros got smoked by that team, and so
I think some of the mystique has worn off. The
whole Astros is inevitable thing after last year doesn't apply
because they got knocked out in the wildcard round and
I don't think teams are scared of them anymore. And
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the benefit of the doubt is starting to wear off.
When you have a down trend World Series win, ALCS loss,
wildcard loss, you see a specific down trend, the benefit
of the doubt starts to eroad. And when you have
six games left to save your season and you come
out looking like that does not feel like there is
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a sense of urgency, and it does not feel like
the message of it's fine, we've been here before, it's
not good.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Enough well, and it's also you have to be able
to prove it because at least in the past, like
let's take twenty twenty three, this was where I think
we kind of started to sense that maybe this thing
was starting to take a downturn, where you know, we're
going into the final week of the season and you've
got serious against the Mariners and against the Diamondbacks, and
you're like, wait a minute here, Like you know, we're
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not supposed to be in situations like this, Like we're
already supposed to be clinched, moving on, getting ready for
home games in the postseason, YadA, YadA, YadA, all that
kind of stuff, and you had to grin, and Barrett,
you had to scratch and claw all the way to
the end. I mean, you found out that Saturday night
after you beat Arizona that you were into the postseason,
but you just didn't know where.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
You didn't know if you're gonna have to.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Go on the road as a wild card or if
you're gonna be home as one of the division winners.
And luckily the Rangers were beaten by the Mariners that day,
so you were able to win the American League West.
But I mean, I guess that's the closest that we've
had because like there is a legit possibility, and last
night even made it even more of a possibility that.
(05:18):
I mean, you heard Jeff Blum and the guys say
it on the TV side, You're probably gonna have to
win out now if you're going to have any chance whatsoever.
The division's over. It ended last night the Mariners win,
So your four games down with five to go, it's over.
They're not gonna lose two straight to the Rockies. All
they need to do is win one of these five
games and they're in fine. But I mean, the Guardians
(05:39):
continue to push. And as much as we're feeling bad here,
I mean you mentioned Detroit like a j hinch for
the guys that are talking the live microphones up there
in Detroit, imagine how that conversation's going right now. Astros
had a seven and a half game lead, Detroit had
a fifteen and a half game lead.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
I mean, that's one of the worst collapses of all
time and you won. You got to give credit to
the Cleveland Guardians who were dead in the water. They're
like last year's Detroit Tiger sell at the deadline, dead
at the water. Guardians gave out Shane Bieber, who's going
to be a big piece in the American League playoffs
for the Toronto Blue Jays, who have clinched right Like
all these teams that for years have shown no ability
(06:23):
to win when it mattered, the Blue Jays are a
good example. Plenty of talent never really the ability to win.
The Mariners, we all know, plenty of talent, never the
ability to win or get anything done. And now let's
flip this year because the American League for almost a
decade has been dominated by the Astros and then secondarily
the Yankees, and it feels like the Yankees are a
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wildcard club. I don't see them catching the Blue Jays.
They did clinch the playoffs last night. The Yankees did,
and that's not what they're supposed to be. They're not
supposed to be a wild card team. The Astros, based
on their past decade of success, aren't supposed to be
a wildcard team. But that's what we're looking at is
a hope of one, not even a wild card team,
the hope of a wild card team. And all you
(07:05):
gotta do is beat the A's, who aren't good but
good enough to beat you, and good enough to have pitching.
Left handed pitching, by the way, which is something the
Astro should be good against. Where through the first two
thirds of this season they saw lefties almost never because
teams would make sure they didn't throw lefties against the
Astros because their two right handed lineup was better against
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lefties and so you have a perfect opportunity last night
against a lefty, solid pitcher, not a world beater, guy
that does not strike out the world either. So he
just like the three pitchers you saw in Seattle, throw strikes.
Why is it such a problem to hit guys that
are throwing, that are in the zone, that are throwing strikes,
(07:49):
that are not beating you with chase rate. For a
team that chases, you are now having pitchers play into
your hands. They're not gonna get you to chase and
you still can't hit those guys. You still cannot have
the fire needed With six games left to save your
season to not be the one team that broke the
playoffs streak, you are going to be the one team
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that broke the division streak of the long one hundred
and sixty two season. Knowing that of the past since
twenty sixteen, you're the most disappointing team since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Do you want to be that team?
Speaker 7 (08:22):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Of course not, so play like it.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Yeah, And I mean there's no time like the president
to try to do that. But I mean, you know,
as you're talking, I'm just reminded of last night where
I mentioned to Christian Walker two of the three singles
that you had. Yeah, I didn't stutter two of the
three singles. That's exactly what the Astros had last night.
You get out hit nine to three by the A's
who are a good hitting team and playing in a
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hitter's ballpark.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
And that's another thing too.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
I mentioned Blumber and TK you know, on the TV
side talking about it last night where Blumber, I can't
remember iFeel was during the game or their postgame stand up,
one of the two where he was like, you got
three hits, and you got three singles hitters ballpark, like
almost alluding to that's hard to do, like somebody would
lean into one and at least be able to put
(09:08):
in a charge to a baseball but like they didn't
look competitive whatsoever in that game. As soon as the
game got the three to one, I told myself, I said,
you can go to bed now, like you can turn
this off and go to bed. This is not going
to change. And it sucks to feel that way about
this offense. But there's zero reason to believe that this
offense has any hint of clutching them any hint.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
You have no yord On Alvarez. You didn't have Jeremy
Payana last night. Who's going to get the big hit.
The only guy that really you've been able to rely
all year long to get the big hit other than
maybe Painia is Victor Carratini is your backup.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Catcher, who, by the way, is not signed after this year.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
That's a guy they need to probably keep around because
he's one of the few guys for a long time
this year that's been doing all the right things.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
He's going to get starting. Looks like me and Sean
talk about that all the time. There is going to
be a club out there that brings in almost kind
of I would say that his career resurgence is almost
like what Travis Darnaut went through in Tampa Bay and
then he got signed by the Braves and brought there
and was able to have a pretty decent career.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
But to your point, I think Travis is a little different.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
I think Travis Darnault was a huge prospect who couldn't
stop getting hurt, and then he finally stayed healthy. Victor
Karattini has been a backup catcher forever and one of
the better ones in the league for a while. I'm
not sure he necessarily gets starting looks because there aren't
a lot of teams bad teams right Like Victor Karrottini
is the type of player who would be a starter
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on a bottom ten team, and a lot of the
bottom ten teams right now are not teams that are
going to pay extra for various players in free agency
right So Christian Vasquez is sort of the comparison. He
had a three year, thirty million dollar deal with the
Minnesota Twins. But before Christian Vazquez came and was essentially
Muldi's backup, he was a starter on a World Series
(10:57):
team in twenty eighteen with the red size, and.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Make no mistake about it, he was brought here to
be the starting catcher. It was just the manager said,
well wait a minute, no, no, no, I'm not taking
my field general out of there. What the hell's wrong
with you?
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Yeah, so he he got that deal. I don't think
that Victor Kartini gets a three year deal. I think
that Victor Kartini gets a two year deal. And I
kind of think it happens with the Astros. They like him,
Dana likes him. He's done well here, he's done well
in the clubhouse. A two year deal or a one
plus one makes sense for him, but he somehow your
(11:29):
backup catcher, a guy that's never been a full time
starter in his life, is the most reliable guy you have.
Not Christian Walker, who was your big splash free agent signing. Unfortunately,
it's not yours on Alvarez because he's hurt. Unfortunately, it's
not esak paratus, although it probably would be if he
hadn't missed the past couple of months. He's just coming
(11:49):
off of injury. It's a backup catcher. It's a backup catcher.
Is your most reliable hitter. When you go through that
lineup and you look at all the big names, Carlos Korea,
you just traded for the deadline. You traded for Jezus Sanchez,
not that you gave up a ton, but you traded
for him. You don't watch a Carlos Carea at bat
and go all right, this is the guy that's gonna
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make sure he's gonna get us the clutch hit. Victor
Carratini's the only guy you kind of feel confident up there,
going like, all right, he's gonna get something done.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Uncle Vic.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
The crew over at Apollo Media does in company coming
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Speaker 1 (12:23):
He's uncle Vic. He is, he is.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
He's one of the more you know, and you're speaking
of remember the saga with bringing back Michael Brandtley late
two weeks left in the year, and all right, he's
gonna be the spark in the last piece. Like no,
same with Paradis. If Paradis doesn't play well this last week, Like,
how are you gonna blame him? He rushed back from
a hamstring. He's like hast sixty percent running and that's
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gonna be the guy that's the savior of your offense.
Ill timed Jeremy Payne your left oblique injury. Ill timed
Jordan Alvarez body breaking down. Ill timed Jose Al two
be slump to end the year. Ill timed Cam Smith
hitting the rookie wall at one hundred and twenty miles
an hour and basically being benched for a month and
a half. Now, who's reliable on this offense other than
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Victor Carratini.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
It's a very fair question, and I think the answer
is one that most Astros fans probably wouldn't like. And
we'll discuss that here as we're just getting going on
a Wednesday edition. That does Shawn Salisbury Show. By the way,
programming note, Dana Brown going to join us tomorrow morning
at nine thirty finding out from the team, so we'll
have that weekly visit with him tomorrow. But as I
(13:31):
mentioned with the Astros, the urgency, where is it? Does
the manager finally is the manager finally putting the words
to it. We'll let you hear from him and let
you decide. Right here, it is a Shawn Salisbury show
on a Western Wednesday, Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Not a floating guy. I love it.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I love it when you got a good group, and
it's got to be a good group. You got a
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know around and you know you can interlock tubes if
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You got the beer cooler right there.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Somebody closest to it, Hey, toss me one, and then
you know, be able to enjoy it. And of course,
you know, I know that this is not really responsible
to stay on the air, but of course you don't
get drunk on the water, you know, like it's it's
one of those like we're like, man, in fact, I've
deleted quite a few golden sodas today. Why don't I
feel a certain way? But then it's like as soon
as you get out of your tube, you're like, oh, okay,
(15:46):
we so we did the responsible rides always too home
voted in college and uh, I remember beer thirty ice?
Why does that exist?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
But was that a beer? Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Beer of beer thirty the Midwest, So there's a beer
called like beer thirty.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah beer.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Oh so it's like Natty ice or like bud ice
or like something like that.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
But yeah, first of all, the fact that there's a
company called beer thirty, which is apparently regional, because I
thought that everyone had heard of beer thirty is just
like a bad like everyone knows. It's just like a
bad beer that exists apparently not. So the fact that
you haven't heard of it makes me actually feel better
that this is a ridiculous concept that you have now
made a beer called Beer thirty that not everyone has
(16:30):
heard of, that is competing with Bush and Natty and
all these other big companies beer, and then you made
an ice version which clearly does not sell as much
as a regular beer would, and then definitely does not
sell as much as.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
A white beer would.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I was gonna say, the ices are usually in clay,
and Hockley will get to you in a second. We'll
also let you hear from Joe Espota, But the ice versions,
like that's like when you go to like any of
those convenience stores and they still have like the huge
tub and they've got the mass of cans in there
that you can get put in the brown paper bag.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Like usually it's those that still exist.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
But for us it was Maddy's or mea Stones, any
of those. I'm doing the Matt Thomas thing of like
rhyming it without like actually like giving proper attribution. But
that's that's what we went with, and it was funny.
One of the last times I had a roommates was
a place we lived at in Atlanta, and my buddy
(17:27):
had bought had bought Maddie for the for for the
for the pool that day and I looked at him,
I go, why he goes, man, it's still good.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I was like, no, dude, Like you.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
You graduate literally from school, and then you graduate from
having to do because in school, if you bought you know,
killer or mud light anything like that, you know, any
any of those things, people would look at you and say, oh, man,
you got some money this week.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
Didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, that's what it was. You get the Yeah, you go.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
You graduate from from natty ice natty Like, no one's
drinking ice, Like I've never in my life ran into
someone like we're at a bar and go, well, first
of all, like bars aren't serving the ice, which is
a sign right there, right that at the place where
most people are drinking, it's not available. No, So, like,
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who are these people out there that are buying enough
of a market share of a natty ice or a
bud ice.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
There's plenty of them, which is insane to me that
it still exists.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
They should have them in like cases at museums and
be like, one day people drank this for some reason.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
This used to be a popular beverage amongst the humans.
But then they decided, I mean I guess if Planet
of the Apes ever happens, maybe they could do it.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Imagine explaining that concept to you know, two hundred years
in the future.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
All Right, we had beer.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Great, we had a light beer, but tracking that way
because ken Z didn't drink.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
No, we had a light beer. People wanted to drink,
but they didn't want to gain weight. Great, Then we
had ice. What the hell is that it was slightly
heavier for some reason?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Why would you want that?
Speaker 9 (19:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Exactly. Well, so wait a minute, some people are trying
to lose weight. Then some people just didn't care.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, I mean perhaps they super didn't care.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
I was gonna say, it's America, So I mean, that's
that's really a possibility.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
They even advertise You ever seen a commercial for whatever?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Ice? No? No, why does this exist?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I think that it's more or less like again, you
go to certain convenience stores that you see not even
an advertising board, but like one of those like cardboard
cutouts that say hey it's this. You know, you can
get an eighteen rack for nine to ninety nine and
somebody's like fifty cents of beer. Yeah, absolutely, set me up.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I just don't know how they're are they making money, Like, where's.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
It's not supposed to be a money maker, but I mean,
at least it's supposed to be a money supplementer.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I guess where's the marketing guy.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
I needed to talk to the marketing guy Anheuser Bush
and be like, because I remember they had a beer once,
because you know, I.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Went to schoolt miszoos iknew a bunch of people Saint.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Louis, and they tried to get a little wild with
a beer and they created a beer heard.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Of a culto I want to say so, but it's
not ringing any bells. So the concept of it was great.
It was a Mexican beer.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
It had like a sugar skull on the bottle, and
it was like a light beer Mexican beer logger, you know,
kind of like Pacifica, which is my favorite beer infused
with tequila, which is like an idea that sounds like
or it was some in some way right or something. Yeah, yeah,
And they like rolled it out and probably just in
(20:37):
the Midwest of like, hey, we're trying this new thing,
like let's see if you like it.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And it lasted like a year.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Mexican surveysa in the Midwest. Boy, I'll tell you what,
what does that go along with a Jimmy Buffett song
up there?
Speaker 6 (20:49):
It should I wouldn't saw Jimmy Buffett live, and I
would love to take a couple of cultas.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
There growing older and not up. I didn't trust me.
I subscribed. I'm part of Parrohead Nation, you know.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
But it didn't work like last than one year because
I remember I knew a girl who worked for Anheuser
Busch and I was like, hey, you guys still doing
a colto No.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
So how are you still doing?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
But ice? I guarantee you the sales were not dissimilar.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I guarantee you there are probably convenience stores like in
the Midwest that I mean it's it's still it's still
hot and heavy, and if they don't have a shipment
of it, then you know, Tim or whoever that comes
in and is always known to get that. Maybe you
know a pack or two of Cowboy killers that they're like, well,
where's my eyes man?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Tim?
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Who's ice fishing? Yeah, in Duluth, that's it. That's who's
keeping the bud ice alive.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
There's a guy named Tim in Duluth, Minnesota who once
the lake's fleet freeze over and he's got his shack
out there on the lake that he's going to be
heading to the bait shop and getting a rack of
but ice.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
And he thinks it's called bud ice because it stays colder.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Probably, yeah, you know ice. I'm on the ice.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Does cores have cores ice? I think their whole thing
as cold as the Rockies. Yeah, I mean they've got
the yellow jacket. And then of course, I mean light itself.
I'm sure they probably do. I mean, I'm sure there's
some some sort of version.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
I don't know. I've got friends of mine in Colorado.
Maybe I could ask them. But like I said, Clay
and Hockley, we will hear from Joe A spot it too,
because I gotta tell you, I mean, I have not
heard him talk the way that he did last night,
and it was kind of refreshing. You just wish that
it came with more than five games left to go
in the regular season. But the Stros lose last night
five to one, open up the series against the A's,
(22:31):
and the Guardians and Red Sox both win.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Do they have it?
Speaker 10 (22:34):
No?
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Bud Ice and bud Ice Light were discontinued by Anheuser
Busch and twenty ten due to failing profits, any tabs
still in college.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Like I said, it wasn't a moneymaker ever, So I mean,
I think they have nothing else if it's stuck around
and it was good exactly, and also too, baseball approves
automatic balls and strikes. Boy, wouldn't that be nice to
have right now? Anyway, we'll continue talking strows. You want
to join in sebon one three two one two ninety
hell beer two?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
You want to get in on that? Absolutely? What do
we care?
Speaker 5 (23:06):
The Astros are a game out of the wild cards,
so you know we're we're trying to loosen the mood
as much as possible around here. But it is the
Shawn Salisbury Show on a Western Wednesday, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Live for The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
We'll get into that a little bit later on, but
we're Astros right now. If you want to get in
someone three two one two five seven ninety Tripoli. I
didn't tell you ahead of time, but it is right
there in the audition. Joe Espada last night after the game,
as I just mentioned, you got three hits. There was
no offensive production whatsoever. Your best offensive hope was in
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the second inning, and the hashtag m al happened. I've
made the hashtag mal minimalist astros lineup. It's pretty much
what it is. You think that you're gonna get a
big inning. Ah, you're gonna get two or three runs.
Maybe that's a big inning for this team. And last
night they got one and that one stuck for the
rest of the game, So you lose the game. Now
you're a game out of the wild card race. And yeah, yes,
(24:06):
And Joe Aspota talking about the bats last night after
the game, and I mean, in so many words if
you listen to them, pretty much says, yeah, we're in
this position right now because we don't hit and not
much offensively.
Speaker 11 (24:20):
You know, we got we got to get our bats
going here. We were running out of days, running out
of games. Just we need just more consistent quality of bat.
And when we do that, we were in good shape,
which just today.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Wasn't the case.
Speaker 11 (24:34):
But a few months ago, you know, we were scoring
runs and we were doing some things offensively, just creating
enough consistency for us to you know, win games in
a row and win series in a row. Yeah, that
we're missing some bats and we missed some players. Yeah,
but you know we do have enough talent in that
room to overcome those challenges, and that hasn't been the case.
(24:56):
You know, day in day out. We just got to
find and uh some volley up bats here in the
next five games, and.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You know, make Mickey strong push.
Speaker 11 (25:05):
This is the sprent to the end, man.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
This is what he takes.
Speaker 11 (25:10):
And every team is your tee. Every team is you know,
no one is hundred percent. We got to dig inside
of us and see how badly what we wanted.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
That's what it comes out to.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Joe.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I'm standing for it. I'm standing. I'm standing where was
that months ago? Where was it months ago? You have
five games left to go. I appreciate it, and I've
said it numerous times. I'm not looking for individual haringing.
I'm not looking for you to individually call people out.
I'm not looking for any of those things. But stop
(25:43):
with the We had some good at bats, the picture
was really good, all of those things.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
That's what he should have been.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Saying all along with this offense, puttering along this entire season.
That right there is what he should have been saying.
Because he's not wrong. I get that the this lineup
is not as good without Jordon Alvarez and Jeremy Panet.
I get that, but you still got a sixty percent
Esak peretis. You still got jose Al Tuvey, who's your
team leader in home runs, and he posts an OH
(26:12):
for four last night with a crucial double play grounded
into OH for two out of Carlos Korea. I mean,
as I mentioned, your offense last night was three singles
out of two guys, two of them from Christian Walker,
and only one of them was of consequence, the one
that you lined right back at the pitcher and it
knocked his glove off.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
But that's what you got out of your offense. That
was your production last night.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
They're limited, we know they're limited, but I think there
are things that they could have done to put themselves
in a better position. And we got we had the
second inning on here in the studio. We get another
chance to look at it and see kind of how
it went wrong.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
So I has to change it now. Yeah, I'm gonna
change it.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
The base is loaded for Zach Cole which with no outs,
which for the last week or two he's been really impressive.
And I think that Zach Cole has put himself in
the conversation to be one of the rotational outfielders next season.
That being said, Zach Cole is left handed. They're facing
Jeffrey Springs, who is left handed. Uh, you're putting a
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rookie barely played lefty in a lineup against a lefty.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Why well, I mean, I think by necessity last night,
because obviously you don't have I mean, I guess you
could have put Arias over at third, and you could
have had Carlos Correa playing shorts.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Don't even to put Arias at third, Put Arias at short,
put Dubon in left, and you now stacked your lineup
because that they came up to that exact situation where
you have and I looked up, it's not like Zach
Cole has reverse splits in the miners, because the sample
size is bigger and big enough in the miners to
make this point. Zach Cole against right he's had a
(27:49):
nine to sixty three OPS in minor league, basically crushed him.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Great.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
That's what he's been doing. In the big leagues for
the most part, he's looked awesome. He had a seven
ninety two OPS against lefties, which is good in the miners,
but it's two hundred points lower. So you have a
guy and now you need to extrapolate that to the
big leagues. Right, So whatever seven eight hundred oh ps
he's hitting in a small sample size, you can now
delete two hundred points from that and assume that that's
kind of the look against lefties. So you got burned
(28:17):
by it. You have the bases loaded and the only
inning you were able to get anything going at all,
and you got a situation where you needed runners and
scoring position to get brought in because you put your
rookie lefty hitter to face the lefty starter, a decent
lefty starter, instead of just shuffling and throwing in Ramonoius
a veteran that you traded for. And I get Cole
(28:38):
has been hot. You want to, you know, keep it going.
Why is he in against a lefty? I rarely question
the lineup making decision, but that specific instance burned you.
And it doesn't make because they've protected the platoon a
lot of the time. Hayesus Sanchez has barely played against
lefties because they know, so why are you putting in
a rookie? And then it earned you in the second
(29:00):
inning and the rest of the game he can. I know,
it's like, oh, we had seven other innings to get
a hit.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
We didn't.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Well, he's been your power threat for about the last
week and a half, which is insane. He was in
double a like a month ago, right, And I mean
I think that's more also factoring into the equation of well,
you know, we know that he's a guy that can
run in the one, all of those things. But I
mean part of that second inning where you load up
the bases with nobody out and you get a strikeout,
(29:26):
sacrifice fly and a strikeout. That's the Astros lineup right
there in twenty twenty five pretty much in a nutshell.
You just saw it play out. Something interesting that did
happen in the game last night. You almost wonder if
the urgency talk was kind of spurred on by this.
I'll share that with you all right here as we
continue on a Western Wednesday again, Ari Alexander in for Sean.
(29:48):
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Speaker 1 (31:29):
Did you notice too, did you watch the game all
the way through? Yes?
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Okay, so there they did show it on the broadcast there.
It was either right before the final out or as
soon as the final out was the strike three that
Carlos Korea was walking away from Joe Espada, where you
kind of you could tell that he said something to him.
(31:54):
And I don't know exactly what the context was. I mean,
as far as I know, I don't know if anybody
caught up with Carlos Cray in the clubhouse after the game,
I'd have to go back and look. But it did
look like it was a kind of it's time to
put a fire under these guys, like it's time to
say something. It's time for us to do something because
what we're doing is not working. And it's pretty evident
(32:17):
because the last four games that you've been on in
this losing streak, no runs, four runs, three runs, one run,
got a hit, So you've got eight runs in four
games when you've needed to have this the most. And
when they're facing the Mariners and they're facing those pictures,
(32:38):
you can say they're outclassed by a team that has
more talent on the field.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
This is not the case with the not Oakland. A's
all right, they don't have more talent on the field
than the Astros do. The pictures they are facing this weekend,
this week pictures they faced yesterday, solid decent, okay pitcher,
not a guy that should be shutting you down to
this point. They're bullpens, solid okay bullpen, not a bullpen
that you shouldn't be able to get hits against.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
And and he didn't get one for four straight innings.
No fire. And that's what Carlos Carre is for.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Carlos care is supposed to be the guy that brings
the fire, but I don't know how much it works
this year when you brought him in at the trade
deadline and suddenly he is the unquestioned leader of the
Clubhouse because there aren't that many guys left from twenty
twenty one when Carlos Correa was still here in the
(33:31):
leader of the Clubhouse. Jeremy Pania was here in the organization,
but it never fully played alongside Carlos Carrea. He definitely
will listen to him. Altuve was obviously here, Jordan was
obviously here. Jordon's not even playing.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Not a lot of.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Other guys were here for the Carlos Carrella leadership era.
The past few years they have sort of grown up
in the Martin Maldonado Alex Brigman leadership era. And when
you trade for a guy, and I'm fully supportive of
everything about Carlos Korea, and I think if he's you know,
(34:11):
he's gonna be here the full year next year. And
if you're in this situation next year and you need
Carlos Korea to yell at some guys, I think the
impact will be great because they've spent the whole time
like this is your own question.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Leader.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
I think it's weird to bring in a guy such
a type a personality who knows everything that everyone needs
to do. And I mean that as a compliment. And
then he's the leader for the last two plus months
of the season, like a guy like Cam Smith. And
I know Cam is super polite and he's gonna listen
to his vets, but you don't think it's a little
strange too, Like, all right, here's your clubhouse leaders. It's
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Jordan and Dubon and el Tuvey. And then suddenly one
day it's like, hey, we trade with Carlos Korea. That's
your leader. Now he just steps right back in. Jiner,
right's a guy who was kind of under Malody and
Alex Bregman, and that's your leader.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Now it's Carlos Karray just suddenly midyear.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
And so I think that that shuffle is is just
a little strange. And I know Karrey is good at it,
but when for a lot of the team, if he's
yelling at you in the clubhouse, like come on, guys,
we need it. Half of these guys being I met
you two months ago, man, what so I just I
think it's just a strange combination on all ends. And
(35:30):
it obviously does not help with all the injuries and
everything else that's going on.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
You can clearly tell though that there is a fever
pitch of there needs to be urgency, because I think
for the longest time, what they had rested on was
we've been in situations like this before. We can work
our way out of this. We will find our way.
And now I think that, even after last night, it's
kind of a feeling of maybe we're just not that team.
(35:55):
I mean, I almost wonder if that was part of
the conversation of just some of these guys just don't
have it, Joe.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Let's be honest, some of them don't.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
Yeah, Craig can come in with fresh eyes, and he
played against them, he game planned for them the past
few years. He did it this year, and he might
be able to see be like, this is how we
attacked your team when I was in Minnesota, and this
is what we saw, and this is how they chase.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
And we're in trouble.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
It's not what you want to hear, but sometimes it's
what needs to be said. Save us, Hunter Brown, how
much do you ask for though out of your astroses.
We'll discuss that here as we get into the seven
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Speaker 5 (37:22):
Astros lose five to one in West Sacramento to open
up their series with the A's. Even more bad news,
the Guardians and Red Sox both win, so that means
the Astros are two games back of the Red Sox
with the tiebreaker going to Boston and a game back
of Cleveland and Detroit because they're both tied for the
lead in the AL Central. They'll continue their series today
(37:45):
and the Texans release safety CJ. Gardner Johnson. We'll talk
about that a little bit later on where we're talking
Stros right now. And if you want to get in
someone three two one, two five seven ninety four, get
to the Hunter Brown thing. This was a quote last
night that I saw out of Mauricio Dubon, and part
of it is like I get what you're saying, and
without hearing the context, of it. You're just reading it,
(38:06):
so I mean there is a little bit of you know,
there could be some blurred lines there. Sometimes you go
on a cold streak. It sucks that it's happening right now,
towards the end of the year when we need it
the most. It's baseball, but we've got to wake up.
It's like, stop with the back of the baseball card,
stop with the man that's baseball, all of that. I
get what you're saying, but like just say, it sucks
(38:29):
that this is happening right now.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
We need to wake up. I'm good. I'm good. I'm
good with both of those right there, if you just
leave it at that.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Pr answer from Duban is pretty usually pretty forthright. I
don't think they just kind of understand what's going on.
They've been good for so long, and the result of
them being in a back against the wall position has
always been we figure it out, we stay calm, we
figure it out, And right now staying calm is not
(38:59):
figuring it out, and they just don't have the firepower.
It almost feels like the twenty twenty one World Series
against the Braves when Bregman's got a broke secret broken wrist,
you know, and the offense is just doing nothing, and
you can just tell that you don't have the firepower
to compete against the pitching. And right now it just
doesn't feel like they have the firepower. And I think
they know that that no one is going to save you.
(39:21):
Jordan is not going to save you. Christian Walker, the
way that he's looked lately is not going to save you.
Jeremy Pania, who's probably even if he comes back, is
playing at not one hundred percent from the side, and
you know, it's interesting, he's got an oblique after getting
hit and it's a side injury. He's probably not gonna
save you. Al Tuvey is not gonna save you. None
(39:43):
of these are the rookies that you have, the guys
that you traded for. So who's going to step up
and be the guy? Especially too, when Hunter Brown goes
today beyond him, who can you trust? You just burned
Christian Javier, who couldn't get out of the fifth inning.
You if Jason Alexander just got lit up, and it
is regressing to the mean of what he is, which
(40:05):
is an okay pitcher who doesn't throw very hard, right,
and then whatever you get from fromber Valdez, which over
the past two months has been a nightmare.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
So who's gonna save you? I don't have an answer
because there is nobody. I mean, you just mentioned it
fromber can't be counted on Jason Alexander. Maybe he just
had a bad outing, but it kind of did seem
like you were on borrowed time with him, and you
just mentioned Javier I mean bullpen games, blue Ball.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Jade Murray.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
I mean, it's I'm grasping its straws. Here is I
think the best answer I can give you because Hunter
Brown goes tonight and you really really need you need
all five games now, I mean, let's call it what
it is. If you want to give yourself zero doubt
of how this thing could end, you need to win
this series and then you probably need to sweep in
Anaheim for that opportunity. And that doesn't even guarant to
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you now because of that loss last night and both
of those teams winning.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
And I don't want to bury the Astros until they're
buried because they again have earned the benefit of the
doubt over the past ten years. But if you lose
tonight's game and you burn Hunter Brown, how how are
you gonna how are you gonna win for even three
out of four of the games left?
Speaker 1 (41:20):
And how with with what I mean, not.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
With the guys that you still have going, I mean,
because you're gonna have to pitch Fromber he's not been
counted on. You're gonna have to pitch Jason Alexander. I mean,
he's been good, but like I said, the last one
and then you know, just to get back to where
this falls squarely on the hitters.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
You know what, there are three guys.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
On this team that have at least twenty home runs
three and your team leader has twenty six. Your team
RBI leader for all of the you know frustration we've
had this year with Christian Walker eighty two.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
Is Christian Walker? Yeah, with only eighty two the No.
Speaker 7 (41:58):
No.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Ninety RBI guy, No.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
One hundred RBI guy, And obviously a function of that
is how many guys have been hurt. Jordan would be
leading in all these categories if he played more than
a third of the season, but we know jose L
two bays declining as he gets into his upper thirties,
and he still leads the team in home runs. The
five ft six guy is your home run leader. We
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talked about this yesterday. When's the last time they had
a forty home run guys Alex Bregman in twenty nineteen,
and that was the year the ball was juiced, in
twenty nineteen. So despite the fact that you have this
supposed potent offense, you're not really getting the slug. Kyle
Tucker never hit forty. Kyle Tucker's about to get paid
four hundred million in the offseason and he never hit
forty four U's hitting thirty. Who you don't really have
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anyone else that can hit forty. L two Bay might
still go down in postseason history is the greatest home
run hitter. He's still behind in second place. But Al
two Ba's not gonna get forty home runs. Christian Walker
has never hit forty. Who's gonna get you forty? There's
this year. The ball is a little dead by the way.
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So despite the fact that we've seen cayl Rawley set
the catcher and Mariners record, and the fact that we've
seen Kyle Schwarber hit a bunch of bombs, and the
fact that we've seen O Tani hit a bunch of bombs,
and Aaron Judge and.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
A Henny Oswarez.
Speaker 6 (43:20):
Across the league, home runs are actually down, and the
Astros are one of those teams that, other than Jordan,
who again has played a third of the year, don't
really have the guy. They don't have a guy. They
don't have a Schwarber. Schwarber might be a guy you
look to in the offseason, However, your team is so
strangely built and Kyle Schwarber in no way should be
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playing the field that you probably shouldn't go after him,
even though you might need him. Because where are you
gonna put Kyle Schwarber? Oh, you put him at dh OK.
Where are you gonna put jord On Alvarez full time
left field? We know they don't want to do that.
Where are you gonna put Jose al Tube full time
second base? They you know they don't want to do that.
Can't put Kyle Schwarber at first because you just got
out of a big contract of a first baseman who
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couldn't play any defense, and.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
You're more than likely going to try to move another one.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
Yeah, and replace him with a guy where first is
not his primary position, and East sacked Paradis who is
by all means probably an average to below average first
baseman and is supposed to be an average to below
average third baseman, although this year he's played up had
been pretty good third baseman. Where does the power bat
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fit in again, other than Paradis who has a very
specific swing for the ballpark that he plays in and
was hurt and it was a serious injury, and it
was a soft tissue thing that may affect him for
the course of his career unless he gets it fixed.
And if he gets it fixed, he gets surgeries out
for seven eight months and will miss into next.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Year, which you can't afford.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
Hey, you put it that way, That's definitely a fun
ending to the season and a fun off season ahead.
But I mean, there will be a flurry of moves
this offseason. It's not going to be dull around here
in terms of this team trying to remake this roster,
because you do have to overhaul this roster to some extent.
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But with Hunter Brown tonight, if it doesn't go the
way that you hope and you lose this game, he's done.
He's done for the year. I'm not bringing him back
on short on short rest, any of those things. There's
just zero point at that point, because again, pretty much.
One more loss knocks you out of this. I understand
that even if one of those teams win the night,
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like let's just say, I don't know, well, actually you
know one of them will. So even if you win tonight,
you're going to gain ground on whoever loses between Cleveland
and Detroit, so you'll still be tied with them, but
they have the tiebreaker, and then from there you've got
to hope that. I mean, at this point, I would
say the best road for them is Detroit to lose
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again tonight and then fall back and then lose again
tomorrow and hopefully you win, and then you would overtake
them because then they've got to go to Boston, and
Boston's still trying to lock up their spot, So it
would put you in a good situation for that. But
I mean, aside from that, I just I think that
any of the designs of Hunter Brown on short rest
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or You're no on coming back, any of those things,
you loose a night, throw those out the window and
say we're punting.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
It's twenty twenty six time.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
And I like that path for the Astros because Trek
Scouble went yesterday, so they burned Trek Scooble. They might
be able to pitch him on Sunday at the end.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Of the year.
Speaker 6 (46:31):
But if you're the Tigers, and I know at that
point maybe you need to get in and you absolutely
have to use him.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Do you not want to have.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Trek Scouoble available for the wild Card Series? Do you
want to keep pitching Trek Scooble on four days rest
after he just had an injury scare So they might
be in a vulnerable position right now, just the way
the Astros are in a vulnerable position right now. So
you're probably right that the Tigers are your best path.
That you're cheering for the Cleveland Guardians tonight and you're
cheering for them to win that series or sweep that series,
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because yeah, Boston's still not locked it up. Yankees did,
Toronto did? That's it? Mariners are about to Mariners are
about to lock it up. That's gonna be half the playoffs.
And then now you're waiting on Cleveland, Detroit, the Astros,
the Red Sox, four teams for three spots.
Speaker 5 (47:19):
Well, the good news is, I mean, you still have
a chance to be able to get in. But the
problem is it's just not really much confidence to lead
you to believe that the astros have what it takes
to get in. Jason and John, we will squeeze you,
and we'll also do a short stakeout here.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Coming up next.
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Seawan Salisbury Show, Sports Sox seven ninety Stros lose to
open up the series in West Sacramento against the A's
five to one. They get three hits and they were
all before the third inning. And uh the Guardians and
Red Sox both went last night. So the shows out
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America's guest here in just a second, But first, Jason
wants to weigh in.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Good morning, Jason, Good morning, my friends.
Speaker 12 (50:23):
How are y'all doing today?
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Good and Allri It's good to hear.
Speaker 12 (50:27):
You back on the radio.
Speaker 7 (50:29):
Man.
Speaker 12 (50:29):
I know he was on the news, and I gotta
say I miss saw on the news, man, But I
hope everything works out.
Speaker 13 (50:34):
For you in the end.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
I appreciate it, Jason. Thank you.
Speaker 12 (50:39):
There's really no positive way to spend the narrative on
this other than hoping other teams lose. But I agree
with you. I mean, we're kind of in that situation
where we're desperate, so we got to throw Hunter Brown
out there and hope we get that win tonight, you know,
and and listening to like MLB Network, which I'll watch
(51:00):
it all day long, and listening to you guys on
seven ninety, you know, and other you know, media outlets.
Everybody picked us to win last night, and I just
can't believe.
Speaker 13 (51:10):
We didn't win.
Speaker 12 (51:11):
And now we gotta rely on a guy who he's
been already saw year. We got to rely on him
to get it done tonight, and that's all we get
hope for at this point. I mean, there's really other
than that. We can't really put a positive spin on this,
my friends. We just got to get the job done tonight.
Speaker 5 (51:30):
I appreciate it, Jason. I mean, if there is a
silver lining to this, that is it that. I mean,
you do have Hunter Brown going. But here's also been
the problem with Hunter Brown going. Not a ton of
run support at times, I mean, such as life this season.
But like it's all finding good to have him go
what the six innings that he's gonna throw and maybe
he gives up a run or two. I mean that's
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what we saw on Friday night against Seattle. We were
feeling good about that. The problem is you didn't do anything,
same deal, three hits and he didn't score a single.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
Run in that game.
Speaker 6 (52:01):
And I think the pressure is on too, where you
know you have to back up Hunter Brown. Hunter Brown
is your best pitcher. Hunter Brown is going to finish
top five, probably top three in the American League, cy Young.
He is your best chance to win a game with
the remaining games you have, and so you have to
get it done. And if you don't, then I think
it's full on panic mode.
Speaker 5 (52:21):
You're facing Louis Severino, who's three and five with a
four point three to three ERA, seventy one strikeouts and
thirteen career appearances against the Astros.
Speaker 6 (52:29):
So he hates pitching there. I mean that's Sutter Health Park. Yeah,
his splits are massive and he hates pitching at home.
Speaker 5 (52:38):
And Blumber talked about that last night too, because they
talked about how Christian Hobvier is a guy that likes
to go into the tunnel and throw a ball off
the wall kind of in between innings to I guess,
kind of keep himself loose. And apparently Severino was one
of those guys too. But so far this year with
the A's against the Astros, let's see six innings, one
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earn run and then fives two earned runs against them.
The second one he lost it was in Houston on
June eighteenth.
Speaker 6 (53:05):
I mean, he's a solid pitcher and you probably could
have gotten to Jeffrey Springs last night. Severino is the
guy that is funny. Oakland did not spend whatever they are,
Sacramento didn't spend any money forever and ever and ever.
Then suddenly they signed Louis Severino to like a sixty
seven million dollar coll like Coly Severino of all the
guys who was on a one year proven deal with
the Mets after he'd struggled with the Yankees. And that's
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the guy that Oakland comes out of nowhere. I'm just
gonna keep calling him Oakland because they should still be
in Oakland comes out of nowhere and gives this guy
sixty seven million, and then he hates pitching in the
minor league.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Ballpark that he's stuck pitching in.
Speaker 5 (53:40):
Well, I mean, you know you can grint and pair
it for sixty seven million dollars. I mean, my god,
if they want me to go do radio and Borneo,
I'll go do radio and Borneo if you're gonna pay
me sixty seven million dollars. Hey, is there a Saudi
crown prints out there?
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (53:53):
Hey, you want me to be part of Saudi Arabia
sports leader Aldredularn soccer buddy, I'll live on an American compound. Yeah,
I'll do it. I'll be up at four am. You
bet your bottom dollar I would.
Speaker 7 (54:07):
So.
Speaker 5 (54:08):
Hey, look, you know eventually they're gonna own every single
bit of sports. If you know they're starting with boxing.
I mean remember Matt shob too. He threw out, was like, hey,
you know we could do kind of like what live
golf did?
Speaker 1 (54:19):
You guys have the power.
Speaker 5 (54:20):
We'll just go get in front of a Saudi prince
and have them pay us a bunch of money and
we'll go play for them.
Speaker 6 (54:25):
I mean, certainly possible at this point.
Speaker 5 (54:27):
Yeah, I guess everybody's got a price, right, Ted dbi
Ossi was right about that, all right? Speaking of well,
I mean, I guess there's no real tie in, so
I'll just go ahead and restart that and go back
into America's guest. So like when when people say America's guests,
like who would you who would you think Shaquille O'Neal,
Maybe America's guest Peyton Manning outside Manning would definitely be
(54:49):
on that.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Liem Hanks I think used to be.
Speaker 5 (54:54):
I think he's waited too much into political waters that
it's turned a lot of people off. So I think
at a time he was, like in the eighties and nineties, definitely,
But now no.
Speaker 6 (55:04):
I'm trying to think who could be America's guest? Who
Who's Charles Barkley post Malone? Is he?
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Yeah? Easily?
Speaker 10 (55:12):
He is?
Speaker 5 (55:13):
Same deal Jelly Role. Okay, so would you put ed
ozeron on that list? Ed Jon's pretty charming. He really
is got to love that guy. And I mean, ever
since he left LSU, he has been living a charmed life.
And yesterday he was out because my buddy represents him
with Rowback Clothing Company. So Roeback's really big into the
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golf world. He was out at Best Page Black Practice
rounds happening out there for the Ryder Cup, which is
going to start in a couple of days, and Edd's
up in one of the grand stands there and coach
decides to start coaching. The spectators take a listen, not
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us did year the Goat Tigers at the end. I mean,
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you know, it's part of his monikers. Still, I think
my favorite part of that is ed Orson telling a
group of people gotta be clear now. Well, not only that,
but also a bunch of New Yorkers who probably had
seen him on TV.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
At some point or another.
Speaker 5 (56:44):
I mean, he is a national championship winning head coach,
but I mean I remember once my sister in law
we were watching. It was before he got the full
time job at l s U. And remember it was
that night they were playing against A and M, and
there were the reports Tom Herman's gonna be the next
coach at LSU. So it's like, all right, Ojon's coaching
his final game. He's talking afterwards, and I remember my
sister in law said, he sounds like.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
A cartoon character.
Speaker 5 (57:06):
Like I think, like some people like kind of like
don't even believe that he's real, Like he's a he's
a I before AI, but as a college football coach.
Speaker 6 (57:15):
You met, I bet a I could do the Orgron voice.
I'll probably give me a Taylor Swift song sung by Edward.
Speaker 5 (57:23):
Have you heard many men like that's sung by AI.
I heard it on Joe Rogan and it was creepy.
So it's like it's it's like a bluesy, jazzy like
sound to many men, And like, I know what you're
talking about. Yeah, yeah, and I mean yeah, I mean
like the AI singer sounds like Alo Black, Like it's nuts.
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But anyway, like so I think like some people probably
think that about Osra, but like it's also too, Like
he even talked about it a few weeks ago. He
wants to get back into coaching. But if you're him,
why do things like this? Yeah, travel to get people
hyped up? Relax?
Speaker 6 (58:02):
Yeah, if you have that much money, right, Like Mike
Gundy got fired and he's got a fifteen million dollar buyout,
why don't coach go Nataly?
Speaker 5 (58:10):
Yeah, you know where Mike Gundy's gonna end up. Mike
Gundy's gonna be in in the keys. Sure, Yeah, you're
you're gonna be able to go down to the Hog's
breath or something like that down in the keys and
you're gonna be like, nah, I can't be him now
that that is him, coach.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
How you doing? Hey, it's Mike now. But you know,
a nice.
Speaker 5 (58:29):
Fish just called me, Mike. I'm catching salefish. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
he's been he's been out on the water all day.
He's got the good base hand going. You know, soon enough,
like everybody else that you know grows up in age
and in Florida, you know, soon enough, the skin turns
the leather yep. I mean, you know, you get all though,
Jimmy Johnson's done a pretty good job of staving that all.
Jimmy Johnson Skimmy dropped the skincare routine. King, I was
(58:50):
gonna say, we need to know manah. I mean the
hair is one thing, but you know the skincare, that's
that's another thing. Is you get up in age, it's
one thing, but no, I love it. And it was
you know other video you know popped up yesterday, like
Keegan Bradley saw him and came over and shook his hand,
and I mean he's you know, people coming up. I
mean you can't help, but you see him in person
(59:10):
and you're like, oh, I gotta get a picture. Oh
I have to And then it's even too like he
probably is one of the few former head coaches out
there that like he shows up somewhere, like if he
was on college game day, he could be at Alabama,
he's not getting booed. No, But like Nick Saban, if
they go to LSU this year, Nick Saban will get booed.
He hadn't coached a game in over two years, but
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he's going to get booed. Pete Carroll, if he showed
up somewhere, I'm sure probably would still get booed, like
if he was in South Bend or anywhere else. Just
for the years that he was at SC, maybe there's
been enough time between. But like Ojeron, like even the
Alabama fan that was like, hey, coach, can I get
a picture?
Speaker 9 (59:46):
All right?
Speaker 1 (59:46):
Roll time? Don't don't do that. Don't do that. Don't
give me a time. You wouldn't do that to coach
Saban if you were an LSU fan, would you? I
know you wouldn't. Eh, why not you have a go Tigers?
Speaker 5 (59:58):
Well, I mean, I mean he did coach LSU and
and he still does. You can tell, like when he
talks about them on game day, like he still has
a soft spot for l s U. He wanted to
go back, he wanted to come back, and then they were.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Like, now we got less miles. Boy, Yeah, what's less
miles up to these days? Not much? Yeah, yeah, you
know I'm gonna be seeing him either.
Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
But no, I love that, and I I was hurt
to find out that coach will not be around for
the weekend because I almost feel like that coach needs
to be there this weekend, like a like.
Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
A can't comprehend.
Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
Yeah, exactly, the European mind cannot comprehend. I mean, you
know where you got the European crowd a few years
ago to uh, the Cranberry's in your Head chanting along
Rory Rory to that song, and it was if you
if you know what I'm talking about, go look it up.
Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
It's pretty impressive.
Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
Like we're like, it's everybody in Unison like singing along
to the tune of in your Head by the Cranberry.
They're good at that, they really are. But the New
Yorkers they're gonna sh up this week. I'll fire up man.
I love the Ryder Cup. It's it's always so fun.
I mean, if you can see like attitude and passion
out of golfers. Then then you see it this week
because I mean it's just different stakes.
Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
It's fun.
Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
I wish that, Yeah, I wish that every tournament was
like that. And you see glimpses of it when guys
will get super fired up after a win and it's
like it doesn't have to be this button up all
the time. And that's one of kind of the results
of Live Golf is that I think they obviously went
like too far one way of shorts and the you know,
playing the music and all that stuff. And you can
tell that some of the guys that are on that
(01:01:32):
tour are annoyed by like John Rahm is is just
kind of over it. Yeah, But like golf, golf is
fun to play. Golf is fun as an activity. Why
at the professional level is it didn't feel fun for
these guys.
Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
I didn't tell a buddy that I was never going
to play golf with him again, But when he told me,
hey man, you know, like I don't want any music
or anything, I was like, okay, see I don't love
the music though, I'm okay with it, but it's not
not I'm not like lasting it. But like it's just
something to kind of go along with the vibe, like
it's fun in a group.
Speaker 6 (01:02:08):
And I play by myself a lot, and so I'm
just not I'm not putting on music by myself.
Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
Myself, I'll do it all the time, and I'll I'll
turn it up even louder because I'm like, well, I mean,
I'm not gonna like throw myself off, Oh damn you
speaker box for for throwing, for throwing off.
Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
My backswing, Like it's gonna be none of those things.
But anyway, the.
Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
New ABS system in baseball, there is some things to
go through and we will lay it out for you
right here as so we continue the conversation. You want
to get in on the astros, you can do that too.
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you can keep them if you're successful.
Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
So in baseball.
Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
Now for the challenge system, which, by the way, too,
you almost wonder if the competition do they have a
competition committee in baseball.
Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
It's called the competition committee, but they have something all okay,
So just like the NFL.
Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
So I almost wonder if like what happened last night
with George Springer, which if you didn't see it, it
was a ball down the third base line that was
called foul that you could see clearly it went over
the third base bag.
Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
It should have been fair. Alex Bregman do for it.
Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
All of that, and I think it was like the
next pitch or the following pitch after that, George Springer
strikes out and it's pissed, I mean, just throws his
back down because he's like, that should have been a
double down the left field line.
Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
All of that.
Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
I didn't know that that wasn't challengeable. I wasn't aware
that that call because I'm guessing I think that from
what I understand is home runs are challengeable, and I
think if it's north of the third or first base bag,
then it's challengeable. Something like that was explained to me.
I'm not one hundred percent clear on the rules, but
I just know that they couldn't challenge it, so you
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get that happening. Well, anyway, you get one challenge and
if you're successful on it, then you get another one.
You hear umpires all the time. You know the challenge
is successful, Houston keeps their challenge, so each team's going
to get two of them. Challenges can only be initiated
by the pitcher, catcher, batter, and the request must happen
right after the pitch. So we saw it a little
bit in spring training at some of the ballparks where
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you'd see either the hitter, the catcher or the pitcher
tap the top of their hat or top of their
helmet and then they'd say, all right, well we'll take
a look at it, and it takes like thirty seconds
to be able to do. I get that you can't
have a bunch of challenges because then you college football
this thing because if you go to a college football
game or you watch it, which they have kind of
reined it in a little bit, but there'd be some
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of these games you go to where it was almost
every subsequent play, previous play is under review. It's like,
oh my god, so now he's got a jog eighty
yards to go back to the monitor and then come
back and tell us the call stands. Thinks you just
wasted five minutes for no reason.
Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
College football takes entirely too long, which was the problem
with baseball until they institute at the pitch clock and
now games are less than three hours. But there was
some game on for it was like USC Michigan State
College football game and it was like one forty five
am Eastern time, and it was still going on. It's
like two thirty seven left in the fourth quarter and
it's nearly two am, Like, how did how?
Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Why?
Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
How do people watch this sport when every game takes
four hours and twenty five minutes. Baseball has gone the
other way where it's shortened, which is good. I called
games for the Triple A team for the Astro the
Trigar Land Space Cowboys, and they had the abs at first,
and it doesn't take long. It's real quick. Tap the
tap the helmet. They showed the little thing in a
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few seconds on the on the board. It's a ball,
it's a strike. Whatever, keep your challenge, you guys have
lost your challenge. It's still a ball or a strike.
It's quick. I think fans are gonna love it. Fans
are gonna love this.
Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
You can't get any help from the dugout or any
other players in the field. And just like in football,
where if you blow through your timeouts and regulation you
go to overtime, you get a timeout or two, can't
remember exactly how many you have, but in each extra
inning a team will be rewarded a challenge if you
don't have any remaining. So you're going to have that.
And just like we had seen at the All Star
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Game and in spring training, well, the ABS system already
has a sponsor.
Speaker 6 (01:06:18):
It's a mobile provider, T Mobile, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's pink Pink Challenges. Big challenge goes to the Houston Astros.
They keep their Pink Challenge.
Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
And I mean, and that's the thing is, I mean,
most of us don't watch a ton of spring training baseball.
So the first time we really got a chance to
see this, unless as you even mentioned, you go watch
the Space Cowboys is the.
Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
All Star Game.
Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
And I mean I remember being there at Truas Park
and seeing it in person, and I mean thirty seconds,
maybe it's not a twenty seconds.
Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
I mean you saw it pretty quickly.
Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
I think the first one was scool ball and school
ball was like no, no, no, like take a look
at that.
Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
They hit the bottom of the zone and sure enough
it did.
Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
And I think even like before the umpire could even
hit the microphone, he was already walking off. So I mean,
you almos wonder if like you know, like the not
the crew chief or whoever else is you know, standing
right there as at tandem that will then go over
to the dugout or like let the pitcher know, like hey,
you can get off the field, like it's yeah, it's
gonna go your way.
Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
It is quick. It was always.
Speaker 6 (01:07:15):
I've never seen one in spring training or the miners
in the All Star Game where it's like, all right, guys,
what are we doing? Why is this taken so long?
I think it's it's going to be massive positive and
it's gonna put a little heat on the umpires.
Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
I think that's why it's taking so long.
Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
As a friend of the program, friend of Houston Sports media,
Bend Bo's called the Umpires Union all right, I think
that they had something to do with with backing this up.
Because now with those graphics that get put out the
umpires scorecard, you can see how good or bad.
Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
These guys are.
Speaker 6 (01:07:46):
And uh, Pat Hoberg got a lot of praise for
the one hundred percent effort in the World Series or
the one missed you know, missed a ball just barely
and then everything else was perfect.
Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
He just couldn't stay out of the book. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
And then you see other guys, this Angel Hernandez.
Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
Right, for years and years people have complained about Angel
Hernandez and C. B. Buckner and Angel Hernandez finally left
the game after an umpire's scorecard was holding him accountable.
And you saw it's like every night, but there's no evidence,
there's no real evidence, Like you could have guys break
it down on video. John Boy can do his video
many videos as they want. But then we had a
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scorecard and it's like Angel Hernandez missing fourteen calls and
then sixteen the next night and then twelve. And I
think this challenge system is going to be another way
to hold the umpires accountable. The last and final way
that they should be held accountable is just like the NBA,
these guys need to be available for interviews.
Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
I mean I've said that numerous times that if you
make a call that affects the game.
Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
I don't want to pull a reporter go up to
a podium. Yeah, go talk.
Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
You made the call that affected the game, so you're
the one that needs to answer for it. I don't
want a pull reporter, right, there's no accountability there of
one person who what did you see on that call? Well,
this is what I saw, Joe West, you know when
he when he when he was peacocking out there during
the Alcs against the Red Sox. And then oh, we'll
send a pool reporter. Great, that's gonna be great for everybody. Brandon,
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So you want to get in, we'll let you get
in on the conversation. Someone three two, one, two five,
seven ninety is the number to get in the astros.
Is it already too early to start thinking about the future,
Well we'll discuss that here as it is the Shawn
Salisbury Show. Here on a Western Wednesday, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
The John Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 14 (01:09:36):
Good morning, Brandon, Beggy, morning Danie more already I love
the show as always, and Dan I always help people
get some of that Kobe Stevens apparel. Man, that's great
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Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
And tell you that there you go.
Speaker 14 (01:09:51):
But now I wanted to man, just talk to you
about like you said, you kind of saw it spiral
down ever since that sweep of the Dodgers. I think
you and I we've talked about this too many may times.
The thirty eight out of sixty seven, I mean, that's
the line when it comes down to, you know, you're
one hundred and sixty two. You're gonna have your ups
and downs. Baseball is a long grind. It's a long season,
and you know you're twenty games over and seven and
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up at the time or eight, you say, you sit
there and keep your foot on the gas, you don't
hit the brakes. And I mean despite all the injuries,
you find a way to.
Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Fight through it.
Speaker 14 (01:10:19):
I mean I commend the spot of I'm looking for
any like silver lining through all this to commend a
spot of for you know, what he's done trying to
keep this group together. I think they're at times you've
seen players selfish and kind of going after maybe you
know personal stats of the situation with from Burn. I'm
not going to go into too much of that, but
you know, I just you don't like stuff like that,
especially when a guy's up in a contract year and
they're underperforming. But I'm with you ever since, you know,
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I kind of new Seattle was going to get hot.
I mean even last the last offseason the Walker deal.
Wasn't very excited about that. I think they should have
done more to kind of deepen and really linked the
their bench and their lineup. You know, you look at
good teams that are in the postseason picture right now
that have a starter go down or two, well, they're
they're bench guys almost as good as their starter who
comes out and who may be hurt, but they're they're
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bit deeper.
Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
We weren't.
Speaker 14 (01:11:01):
I think you can put a four K in. I
think it's done. I think last night's game was It's
kind of that defining moment. Really, the Mariner series was
kind of the defining moment. But how about you. I
think it's time to look toward twenty twenty six, flip
the clock and flip the script and look at rebuilding
this roster and look at all the areas. It's everything.
There's not just one thing you can say that's good
one thing that's bad. I think everything is up for
a fair game. I think if you look at the
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power that you mentioned, no twenty home run hitter, and
I think already said it since Bregman in twenty nineteen,
I know, forty home run itter, I should say, And
this year you're aging second baseman with declining eight veteran players.
It's got twenty six or something, and he's still going strong,
but he's not having the type of year he needs
offenially from a batting average. So I wouldn't want to
be Dana Brown. I'd like to be a fly on
the wall to figure out what the calls they make.
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But I think it's time to flip the script in
and I appreciate the time and looking forward to seeing
what they do this offseason, but not only any of
the tie breakers. The playoff picks here looks really really
bleek right now, Thanks so much.
Speaker 5 (01:11:53):
Hey, appreciate it, Brandon. I mean there's a time for
that conversation. And look, I mean, if the Astros do
get eliminated sometime this week, maybe we start that conversation
because well, there is nothing more to look forward to,
because after Sunday you're done. But I mean you're still
in it for now, so you still need to worry
about the team that you have right now at the
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same time though, too, I mean, what necessarily encourages you
that you're going to have a reason to worry about
past Sunday.
Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Nothing.
Speaker 6 (01:12:20):
There's not a lot, And there's just not a lot.
The offense has shown over the whole year. We have
a big enough sample size now over the past few
months to know what they are and what they are
without yourd On Alvarez. So definitely what they are without
Jeremy Panna, whom his time earlier with the rib injury.
And it's not a good offense what they are without
Estock Paradus. And now you have sort of a hobbled
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Eastcoc Paradus in the lineup. It's nice to have him.
He's useful, but six seventy percent Estoc Paradus is not
going to save your lineup. It's not going to make
the rest of the guys around him hit better. It's
just it's not a dangerous lineup right now, and average
pitcher are able to carve them up. And that's what
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you're going to see the rest of the way. You're
not gonna see aces the way that you did in
the Mariners series, where they have a ton of really
good pitching. You should be able to beat the Athletics,
you should be able to beat the Angels, and they
have now shown time and time again they just cannot
string together these type of inning. They just don't have
the firepower. And I'd love to be proven wrong. I
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would love for them to give Hunter Brown some run support,
because this does sort of feel like the last stand
because once you get past Hunter Brown, the pitching is
very much in question. But there's not Oh, you're right,
there's just not a lot of evidence that the firepower
is there.
Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
Yep, Hunter Brown and Johnny whole staff time. That's what
it looks like it is for the Astros. We'll continue
the conversation a little bit later on in the show,
but I do want to get into a little bit
of Texans conversation because I mentioned it earlier. Something was
said yesterday after a move was made, and I just
really can't say I buy it. We'll discuss it here.
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Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
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Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
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Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
Well, here's where the news gets even worse because the
Guardians and the Red Sox both win last night, so
Boston is now two games with the tiebreaker in front
of you, and the Guardians and Tigers are both a
game in front of you for the final wildcard spot,
and they also both have the tie breakers. And oh,
by the way, now the Mariners with a comeback win
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last night over the Rockies. There are four games in
front of you with five games to go. So the
AO West is done and the same deal there, tiebreaker there.
We'll get into the Texans in a second, because I mean,
just fresh off of that, I feel like, you know,
this does need to be talked about. And again, you
know the TV side LASTK and Blummer talking about this.
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You're gonna look back when it's all said and done.
I think at two things this year, the Astros against
teams that they should have beat in this lineup, and
just how poor they were with runners in scoring position,
but the teams they should have beat. And I heard,
you know, TK and Blumber talking about this. Swept four
games at dyke In Park by these guys who just
beat you again. So now you've lost five straight games,
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at six straight games. If I'm not mistaken, to the
A's but still you can't beat the A's, all right, whatever,
what about the two out of three you lost in
Chicago to the White Sox series like that, and I
understand long season, one sixty two, all of that, but
you couple that with your own offensive inabilities, and that's
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why you find yourself in the situation that you're in
right now. Is we talk about it all the time,
me and Sean. The golf example, birdie the berdie, bull holes,
eagle the holes that you have a chance to eagle,
and don't get out of those with parts and bogies.
They've had a lot of pars and bogies this year
when they should have had birdies and eagles.
Speaker 6 (01:18:04):
Those are things that can change year to year. But
the lineup is a problem. You lose series is you
shouldn't lose every year. You win a bunch of games
one run games or whatever that you shouldn't win every year,
and then it changes. It's like turnovers and football, right
like whatever Phil Steele likes to do the thing where
whatever team was plus nineteen and turnovers next year just
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by value of regression should be a little different, or
whatever team had a bad year because they were minus
twenty two and turnovers they're going to improve just by
value of regression. So I think those are changes that
can happen. But the lineup thing has not been just
a problem this year. This is now an approach thing
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second year in a row where the approach is an issue,
where they're swinging too much, where they're not drawing walks,
where guys are not getting on base enough, where there's
a lot of first pitch outs pop ups right, like
Astros fans, I've never seen a fan base and I'm
not saying they're not right to complain, but I've never
seen a fan base complain about pop ups more.
Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
And they're not necessarily that they're wrong.
Speaker 5 (01:19:08):
Pop ups bouncers to short and third double plays.
Speaker 6 (01:19:12):
But I'm I see other fan bases in baseball like
you just don't catch, like Blue Jays fans being like ah,
the pop ups for whatever reason, like Astros fans and
the pop ups is the thing, like Bregman is a guy,
they would complain about pop ups and it's not necessarily
they're wrong, it's just like it's something they I would
say they noticed more in tune.
Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
More than other fan base paying closer attention to it.
And you see it.
Speaker 6 (01:19:33):
Yeah, yeah, And those are things that happen a lot,
and it's now going on a multi year trend. Even
the twenty twenty two team that won one hundred and
six games and won the World Series did so on
the strength of a great pitching staff that stayed healthier
than any other pitching staff ever, and then a bullpen
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that was phenomenal, buoyed by Rafael Montero having a career
year and Ryan Presley being excellent and Brian A. Bray
You being excellent and getting a great year out of
Hector Narris, who was an up and down closer for
the Phillies before that point, and so he had all
these sort of unsustainable things. But the one thing that
is sustainable is how much power your lineup can provide.
Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
And even in.
Speaker 6 (01:20:20):
Twenty two, the year they won one hundred and six,
it wasn't that consistent, right, Like, there were games where
there were weeks where they would go cold for a
little bit, and you wouldn't necessarily expect that like twenty nineteen,
that one that ever happened.
Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
The one hundred and seven.
Speaker 6 (01:20:34):
Win twenty nineteen team only won one more game than
twenty twenty two, and I know the ball was juiced
in nineteen, but did you ever go into a game
in twenty nineteen watching that Astros team and expect them
to get shut down?
Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Ever? No, but in twenty.
Speaker 6 (01:20:50):
Two you did, where like, we could win this game
too to one because our pitching is great, beause Christian
Avire is gonna go out and give us six innings
of scrolls ball and give up two hits.
Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Eleven, we saw it, but we could score two and
win the game.
Speaker 6 (01:21:03):
And so since then, it feels like almost like since
the twenty one playoffs when Bregman with the secret were
broken wrist and they just kind of we were didn't
weren't able to string together anything against the Braves.
Speaker 5 (01:21:15):
And your singles and solo home runs. This with this
offense started, yeah, was in twenty one, and then twenty.
Speaker 6 (01:21:20):
Two it was like offense was up and down, but
the pitching was so good. You win one hundred and
six games the World Series. In twenty three, it was like,
I don't know what's up with this offense. Everyone's complaining
about Maldy because you've got some good hitting out of
Yaner Diaz. And then twenty four, well, now these guys
are chasing too much and they're not seeing enough pitches,
and the amount of pitches scene has dropped in twenty five.
Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
It feels like the same issue.
Speaker 5 (01:21:41):
No, I mean, that is something that is going to
have to be heavily scrutinized over the offseason, because I mean,
part of the reason Tony Paris Chico is here and
I know I bring him up and people are going
to bring up him over at third base, but one
of the chief reasons he was brought in was because
of how much of a fundamentally sound offense or excuse me,
defensive fielding coach he is. And you did see the
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fielding improved this year, despite the pop up dropping in
the infield last night and some of the things that
we've had happened recently, but I mean, you did see
that improve. And he also, if I'm not mistaken, I
think was supposed to be brought in to improve the.
Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
Base running, which I mean, at times has been fine.
Speaker 5 (01:22:19):
I'd like to see this team be a little bit
more aggressive on the bases, especially with some of the
speed guys they have, because certainly other teams are very
aggressive against this team, not only with stolen bases, but
also with the weakness of your arms out in the
outfield of being able to take the extra base with
something hit to the outfield. So the hitting is the
one though that you know, as this staff meets up
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in the offseason, how do we improve this thing? That
has to be chief number one with the on field performance.
We have to be able to find ways to be
more productive. The stolen base thing, I think you're dead
on because.
Speaker 6 (01:22:53):
There are multiple players in this league that it that
have now figured out the pitch timing and how to
read pitchers and how to read catchers. Juan Soto is slow.
He just is right, and.
Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
He can't field. Did you see that point?
Speaker 6 (01:23:12):
No, he cannot field, and everyone knew that he looked
like a.
Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Little leaguer out there in right field.
Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
I was like, did that honestly just happen?
Speaker 6 (01:23:19):
Jan Soto is one of the slowest players in baseball.
I'm looking up his sprint speed right now, thirteenth percentile
sprint speed twenty five point eight. If Jan Soto was
on the Astros right now, Juan Soto's hitting prowess aside,
do you know he would be leading the team in
stolen bases.
Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
By a lot, by a lot.
Speaker 6 (01:23:39):
I think the team leader is twenty, right, does anyone
have more than twenty Paynias at twenty? I know you've
been on the Paynia twenty twenty watch for some time, which, yeah,
did look like you were looking good at that but.
Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
He got hurt.
Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
You know, you would have three more home runs to
be played. They are fourth worst in baseball and stolen bases. Yeah,
seventy eight is a team.
Speaker 6 (01:23:57):
So who they're the leader this year is paying You're
right with twenty, I believe so one. Sodo has thirty six. Yeah,
Paya is twenty. Myers as sixteen l two pass ten.
You have three guys with double digits. Cam Smith is
one of the fastest players in baseball.
Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
He has eight.
Speaker 6 (01:24:13):
Jeremy Payne is definitely one of the fastest players in baseball,
and he has twenty. And I know Paya isn't necessarily
the best at getting the jumps, getting the reads one
two times though he doesn't get caught a lot, but
he also is only attempted twenty two steals.
Speaker 5 (01:24:27):
I think that it's also I mean, the situation with
this team of let's not run ourselves out of an inning. Well,
the good news is you're gonna hit yourself out of
an inning, So what's the point in even trying that?
Speaker 6 (01:24:36):
So why is one soda thirty six to thirty nine
in stolen bases? And Jeremy Page is only attempted twenty two?
Speaker 9 (01:24:42):
Right?
Speaker 6 (01:24:42):
Like, I get if you're running and you're getting caught
because you're not getting the right read to the right jump,
they're just.
Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Not running well. And now I know the answer. All right,
they need to bunt more.
Speaker 5 (01:24:50):
Yeah, I find I've finally given you guys, have twisted
my arm enough that we can go Augie Gurito baseball
if you want to.
Speaker 6 (01:24:57):
Here, you saw Josh Naylor this weekend? Right, Yeah, how
would you describe? And I don't want to body shame anyone,
but how would you describe Josh Naylor's physique?
Speaker 5 (01:25:07):
He's, at least in the appearance, a huskier looking fella.
But I mean, who am I to judge because I
fit the same category hustle. It's I love the word husky.
It's not shaming if I'm doing it.
Speaker 6 (01:25:17):
I love the word husky. You know who got described
as husky? Bobby Hill. Yeah, so Josh Naleen became a
hell of a chef.
Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
He did become a hell of a chef is.
Speaker 6 (01:25:28):
Second percentile sprint speed in Major League Baseball. Ninety eight
percent of baseball players are faster than Josh Naylor. Okay,
Josh Naylor has twenty eight stolen bases. Josh Naylor has
eight more stolen bases than the Astros leader, who is
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Jeremy Paanya. Do you know what Jeremy Paynya's percentile sprint.
Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Speed is.
Speaker 6 (01:25:54):
Ninety seventh percentile sprint speed.
Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Some three percent are faster and he is not very many.
Speaker 6 (01:26:01):
Jeremy Pagna is one of the fastest players in all
of baseball twenty nine point six feet per second.
Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Josh Naylor is one of the slowest in baseball.
Speaker 6 (01:26:08):
Twenty four point four feet per second, and he has
eight more steals than Jeremy Paanya. So this year, specifically,
it has happened this year, slow Husky guys have found
the ability to steal a ton of bases. Why can't
your fast jacked guys do it?
Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
It's organizational philosophy.
Speaker 5 (01:26:29):
He used to be a fundamentally sound baseball team, but
that seemingly has eluded them over the last few years.
Jim and most City will work into the conversation we
will also to We'll push the CJ. Gardner Johnson to
the bottom of the hour, so continue the astros conversation
you want to get in seven one three two one
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Speaker 7 (01:28:03):
You know.
Speaker 5 (01:28:06):
What was it twenty plus years? I think they said
that almost more than half of his life was spent
at Oklahoma State. Because you don't you don't want to
differentiate between the two bet quarterback. Yeah, the quarterback.
Speaker 6 (01:28:16):
There a legendary coach for them, But it just felt like,
and I was talking someone on the Great Facebooks yesterday,
or like.
Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Get rid of Willie Fritz. You can bring in Mike Gundy.
He's a better coach.
Speaker 6 (01:28:28):
No, Willi Fritz is doing great, And Mike Gundy just
didn't feel like he had adapted to the new college football.
Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
And I get it.
Speaker 6 (01:28:35):
Change is scary, and there's been a lot of them,
and I don't like most of the changes in college football,
I feel like the sport has lost its charm. But
if you're a coach and this is your profession and
you've been really good at it for a long time,
like Mike Gundy has adjuster or die and he didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Same with Dabo Sweeney.
Speaker 6 (01:28:52):
Davos Sweeney has won national titles and he is the
perfect example of you can be at the tippy top
of your profession, just like Dabo was and not adjust
to the changes and the differences and the adjustments that
you need to make and refuse and be too stubborn
to adjust and modernize how you do things. And now
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Clemson is not what they were because the coach who
was the best coach in the sport or the second
best coach in the sport or top whatever will probably
go in the Hall of Fame multinational title winner refuses
to adjust, and I think Mike Gundy is the same thing.
Refuse to adjust to the times, lose to Tulsa, get
murdered by Oregon, and you get fired despite the fact
(01:29:35):
that you are one of the greatest coaches in that
school's history.
Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
The times that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
Seven one three, two, one two five, seven ninety is
the number to get in Continuing the Astros discussion Most City, Jim,
Good morning, Jim, Hey guys, Okay, m.
Speaker 10 (01:29:51):
H yeah, I just want to come in on the Strows.
So you know, as far as this season is gone,
I mean, any given day, I can't determined whether it's
just a rash of injuries that has caught up to us,
or it's, you know, the underperformance of players that are
down on the field that are expected to brew produce.
(01:30:12):
But watching the game last night, but I'm a lifelong
Astros fan, and on this ten year run that we've
basically had since twenty fifteen, I've put last night's game
in terms of hitting performance, lack of no approach against
this lefty junk ball thrower that topped out at ninety
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one on the mount rushmore of one of the worst
hitting performances I've seen. You damn right. We can complain
about pop ups and rollover grounders when they'd happened throughout
the year, and last night. You know, I love Altuve
the greatest Astro. I saw a second at bat of
missus first when he jumps on a pitch breaking in
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the dirt pop up. Next at bat, he comes back up,
takes two middle out fastballs or fitch that he should
have hit, but he can't pull. He can't go the
other way anymore because he's become pull happy over the years,
so he locks himself up, and then you've got yati
rds continuing to roll over with grounders in the double plays.
(01:31:15):
His jobs to hit line drives and home runs, and
we've seen no adjustment or anything to remotely see that
he's trying to make adjustments. It's it's become frustrating because
this team over the years has just been a collection
of really great individual hitters that basically are pull happy
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now because of the Crawford boxes hit home runs, and
there's been no really team hitting approach. They no one
tried to take the breaking pitch the other way or
lay off of it and see the ball up. Yesterday
he was infuriating and and I'm not giving up hope yet.
Yesterday just damn near beating me down and beat me up.
(01:32:00):
But the one shings that does have to happen is
the hitting coaches. They need to go there. There has
been nothing done this year, and I'm like, really, Diaz
is the one that stands out. I think al Tubas
because he's been pulling the ball so much in recent years,
he forgot how to go the other way, and he'll
he won't be able to do that. But like Diaz,
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is the classic case of someone where I saw no
adjustments or anything this year, and I don't see anything
in any given game to say, you know what, I
see how the teams are attacking this hitter. It's just
each individual hitter is trying to figure it out. And
we don't have Tucker. You know, we don't have Tucker.
We don't have Bregnant anymore. You got the injuries, and
you've got some minor leaguers batting, and they're overmatch at times.
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Case in point, last night, Zach Cole, you know, this
left he just carved him up.
Speaker 6 (01:32:50):
And then Cam.
Speaker 10 (01:32:51):
Smith has been continuously late throughout the year. He sort
of took the ball the opposite way early in the season,
but I think a lot of the reasons he goes
the other because he's fundamentally late, so and with no
adjustments there. It's just been frustrating. But I'm holding out
a little bit of hope.
Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
We'll see what happens over Yeah, sorry, Jim, we lost
you man. Apologize for that.
Speaker 5 (01:33:12):
But now there's a lot of things that we can
cover because there is a lot to work off what
he just brought up. So we'll do that work in
Roger and then we will get into the Texans a
little bit too, as we continue here on a Western
Wednesday Sports Talk seven ninety for.
Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
The Shawn Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Continued O show TEXTO. I mean he is he is
an old school, old school listener.
Speaker 5 (01:33:39):
I mean I've known O show for over fifteen years,
and he sent us all a save us Samson and
a gift of Kelvin Samson, which I fired back with
Michael Clark Duncan from Talladega Knights. Don't you put that
evil on me? Stay away from Kelvin Samson, all right? Like,
let I think that certain teams and certain person that
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are kind of impervious to oh man, you know Houston sports,
like the Astros were for the longest time, you know,
on once they started winning, it was like they'll get
it figured out, They'll be all right, don't worry, like
those guys are still those guys, and you know it
was one of those all right, Now, we need to
get the Texans to do this. When we thought we
had that a couple of years ago. Clearly we don't
right now, but yeah, don't, don't. Don't do that to
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you of H. Let's let you of H BU, of H.
Let's let you of H basketball be you of H basketball.
I want to see a national title like everyone else.
But what's happening right now? And let's throw the rockets
in there too with the Fred van Vliet News yesterday,
like guys, you know, like the saging or something like
we need to do something. We need to see a seance.
(01:34:43):
I don't, I don't know what we have to do,
but like somebody broke something, somebody stole something, somebody did
something to have us in the predicament that we're in
right now with the three major sports teams.
Speaker 6 (01:34:55):
Kelvin Samson is just working his way into success everywhere
right like the fact that they might be able to
play at home because they're like, we don't want to host.
Speaker 9 (01:35:05):
What's what.
Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
Host? You guys are gonna be there? What do you care? Yeah,
HCU would you like to host?
Speaker 4 (01:35:13):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (01:35:14):
HCU basketball having people watch like remember like when they
had like the old like press table aprons and now
they've got the led boards, so it lets you know,
like you know, hey hosted by Rice University or by
I U p U. I yeah, if it's in Indiana,
because I mean that's probably upperdu was able to get
there yesterday last year?
Speaker 6 (01:35:32):
What was the yes So I was in Indianapolis and
I was in Wichita, Whichita State was the host for
uh the Wichita Regional and then Indianapolis.
Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Was it I U p U? I probably who.
Speaker 6 (01:35:44):
I'm trying to think what other colleges are in Indianapolis,
but they're not.
Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
D one, D three or something. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (01:35:51):
Indianapolis closes too early. Indianapolis and Wichita, both of those
I was not a fan of either city.
Speaker 5 (01:35:58):
Matt Thomas is a big Indian Apple plus guy, and
I really why because you know, everything's right they are.
Everything's walking distance and the tunnels and all of that right.
Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
Night games.
Speaker 6 (01:36:10):
What happens when Matt is done calling a Pacers game
and it's ten o'clock at night and you want to
go get something to eat where yard house I call
those yard house cities because the only thing San Antonio
is like this too. You're a yard house city. The
only thing open past ten is yard house baseball games
over basketball games.
Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
Over.
Speaker 6 (01:36:28):
You're covering a primetime football game, which I know those
other than Indianapolis, those those cities don't have NFL.
Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
Where do you want to go?
Speaker 5 (01:36:36):
Eat only thing that's opens yard house? There you go
yard house cities. Well, you at least got that going
for you. A hell of a beer selection if you
want that. But someone three, two and two, five seven
ninety is the number to get in.
Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
Roger wants to wain. Good morning, Roger, good mor jail.
Speaker 15 (01:36:52):
Let me find out Sean's out there somewhere with voodoo
dogs picking needles in our franchise.
Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
You know, it's funny you mentioned that.
Speaker 5 (01:37:00):
I mean, because this all started when Sean went away,
so you might not be wrong. I mean maybe there
was some shaman or somebody over in Hawaii upset.
Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
I don't put it past him.
Speaker 15 (01:37:11):
A bridge hunt. Jeez manw what is going on anyway?
Let's just talk about the people that are here, like so, yes,
the injuries are a big part of what happened with
the Assos this year, what's still happening, and hopefully we
can remedy that with the few games we have remaining.
That being said, what about the guys like next year?
(01:37:31):
What are we gonna do the fix the guys that
have been healthy all year that have horribly underperformed, like
Diaz and Walker, like those are the two shiny examples
because those were our four or five hitters of I'm mistaken.
Those guys were supposed to be our heavy, heavy hitters.
And you know, the Das with the tippitoes and the
either the bat and his but sticking out. I've seen
(01:37:53):
that way too many times this year. Christian Walker just
wailing through fastballs, even with the guy that his fastball
was only like eighty five miles an hour. He was
with with to that guy's basketball like it was like
it was Sandy Colfax or something. I just don't understand.
I mean, people want to brand the hitting coach. Okay, fine,
if you want to get another hitting coach, do off
(01:38:15):
season workouts, get you a personal hitter to go, do
winter ball, something to keep those reps up and get
your back going for the next season. If we don't
make it to the playoffs, that's all I gotta say.
Try to work it out. Guys that were that been
here that weren't they weren't injured. Believe me, you know
we are. Injuries is part of the twenty five season
of the story for the Astro. That's the big, big story.
(01:38:37):
Uh may not be record if I'm not mistaken, But
now being said, man, this thing has got to be fixed.
And I don't even have no clue what the Texans.
I just felt like the Texans is just Texans themselves
and just wash, rinse, repeat all over again. But this US,
it's like ron Berger, he said, this scar's gonna be quickly.
So yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
Fellas that would go was appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (01:39:00):
Roger.
Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
We'll get to the Texans in a second.
Speaker 5 (01:39:02):
But I mean, you heard Joe Spota, even when he
was asked about the injuries last night, he said, no,
you still got guys in this room that can make
things happen, and that's been a problem. They haven't made
things happen. I mean, he talked about the middle of
the order right there, four five, six. Well, I mean
it's hard to get upset with the four to five
last night because they were your offense. Three singles between
(01:39:22):
two of them, only one of them hit hard. The
other two seeing ni singles that probably should have been
it fielded outs.
Speaker 6 (01:39:31):
You have name guys in the lineup, and they're not performing.
Janardaz is supposed to be better than Yaner Das has been.
Christian Walker is an All Star, was an All Star.
He's supposed to be better than he has been. These
guys are just not performing. I don't know if getting
rid of the hitting coaches is a solution. I don't
even know if getting rid of Christian Walker is a solution,
because Christian Walker right now is at the lowest value
(01:39:56):
of trade value that he has been in years. At
one point, Orioles got rid of him, and he catches
on with the Diamondbacks. Part time player, turns into a
good player and got himself a sixty million dollar contract.
But who wants a twenty million dollar first baseman that's
coming off the second worst year of his career right now.
It's just you're trying to get rid of a guy
(01:40:18):
at his lowest trade value. That's not It's not how
it's supposed to work. I just don't unless you decide
that all right, Paratis is playing first, Correa is playing third.
Al two Bay is gonna play second, though, even though
I know they don't want L two B to play second.
Jordan is dhing and then we're gonna figure it out.
(01:40:38):
For left, I think there's a greater chance that Jesu
Sanchez is flipped because he's much cheaper obviously than Christian
Walker is, or even non tendered. There's a chance him
and Chas McCormick getting non tender to save nine million,
ten million dollars than Christian Walker being traded or finding
a trade partner that is willing to give you something
(01:41:01):
of value, because getting rid of twenty million doesn't do
that much for you, or as much as you think
for you.
Speaker 5 (01:41:08):
Well, I mean one thing, you know, just before we
get into the Texans, I would like to see this
team stop giving multi year deals to guys that are
north of thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
That would be nice. That's just kind of how the
game is played.
Speaker 6 (01:41:21):
You can't because players don't get to free agency till
six years and most of these guys are going to
be north of thirty. It's just cost of doing business
and knowing that if you give a long term deal,
which the Astros don't, the inflation dictates that the end
of Walker's deal, that third year twenty million is not
going to be twenty million. Twenty million is gonna feel
(01:41:42):
like sixteen million. I know that doesn't make you feel better,
but it's just until they change, until the CBA changes, which,
by the way, very possible because there's i would say,
greater than fifty percent chance we have a lockout after
next year, Greater than fifty, greater than eighty.
Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Yeah, you're getting warmer, a very very high chance of
a lockout.
Speaker 6 (01:42:03):
And lots of things change, but the one thing that
hasn't changed is the whatever looked like a big contract
years ago no longer looks like a big contract because
of the inflation. And so I know everyone likes to
bag on the Mets for one soda. It's like, are
you gonna be paying one soda fifty one million in
fifteen years? Fifteen years from now, there's gonna be like
forty guys making fifty one million. Well, if the astros,
(01:42:27):
do you hope that you'd be getting more production? Although
he is the RBI leader, he is the RBI leader
with eighty two.
Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
He's got that going.
Speaker 5 (01:42:35):
All right, let's finally get into the Texans because, as
I mentioned, I'm calling cap on something that we heard yesterday.
We'll discuss that here on the Sean Salisbury Show. It's
a Western Wednesday edition You here Sports Talk seven ninety.
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I'm a dialard back to the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 5 (01:44:14):
At least one of the common reports that's out there
where you know, our own Aaron Wilson and your former
stop KPRC two does some work for them. Had was
critical of players, a little bit of just kind of
reading between the line, I guess freelancing out there. But
the common that him and others who report on the
team have had is well he had trouble picking up
(01:44:37):
Demko's scheme.
Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
The guy has now played what four years in the league.
Speaker 5 (01:44:42):
However long he's played in the league, he's been in
the league for some time, So you're gonna tell me
that he gets to this point in his career, and
all of a sudden he has trouble picking up a
defensive scheme for a guy that, mind you, even before
he was a coach in this league, he was coaching
his guys. I'll never forget it. When the team went
through the workout they had during the lockout over at
(01:45:04):
Rice Stadium, he was out there coaching Wade Phillips three
to four scheme to his guys, going through a walk through,
running off the field, flipping to the next page. All right, hey,
you're here, you're here, all of that, just coaching his
guys that way. Tomiko knows how to coach a defense,
and he knows how to be able to make sure
that guys, especially veteran players, understand it. So I understand.
(01:45:26):
Like DJ Benemy did a really good video breakdown. If
you haven't seen it, go look it up on Twitter
about the huge explosive play that the Texans gave up
on that pass play pass and run that then set
up the ETN touchdown. And you see immediately after Kamari
Laster pushes the guy out of bounds, he gets up
and throws out his right arm like what the hell
(01:45:47):
man to basically to CJ. Gardner Johnson, like you just
left me on an island that wasn't even my guy,
and now, like you know, people are gonna think that's me. No,
you were the one who messed up there, So now
I'm the one who has to deal with it. So
all of that and the last point that I just
brought up there, like I don't see it. I think
(01:46:08):
that there was things behind the scenes critical of teammates,
and I mean, my guess is that probably the criticism
from his perspective to guess is well, I've won a
super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
You guys have not. I know what it takes to
be able to do that.
Speaker 5 (01:46:21):
And you wonder if that started to run tired with
people and that he started to lose favor inside that building.
Speaker 6 (01:46:27):
And that works when you were playing well and you're
coming from a super Bowl winning team and you're the
one holding guys accountable when you're blowing plays like that,
which I brought that up yesterday a bunch like how
do you let Brian Thomas, who's playing like trash all
year get that open? And that key moment the defense
is the secondary is supposed to be better than this.
Trevor Lawrence sucks, but Trevor Lawrence nails that throw.
Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
Well, we figured it out. It's because CJ.
Speaker 6 (01:46:50):
Gardner Johnson blew his coverage and so you can't be
This is a seventh year in the league, by the way,
So no, I don't buy that he can't pick up
the scheme.
Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
I think it's a combination of and everyone knew this.
Speaker 6 (01:47:01):
The reason that the Eagles got rid of him, the
reason that he's been on five teams or whatever it
is in the seven years that he's in the NFL,
is because he's difficult. And when you're winning, that's okay.
You know who else is difficult? Michael Jordan, Right, Michael
Jordan's incredibly difficult Tom Brady. But it worked. Yeah, Tom
Brady was difficult, but it worked and he won. And
(01:47:22):
when you're winning, you can be difficult. But when you're
blowing coverage and helping a team that is supposed to
not only win the AFC South but dominate the AFC
South lose to a team that you should be killing,
you don't get to do that. You don't get to say,
last year, I won a Super Bowl. So you guys
(01:47:42):
need to listen to me, because this is not last year,
and the Eagles did great about this. When their coach
comes out, Nick Sirianni comes out and says, why would
we go and celebrate last year's when we're staying in
the tunnel. That's cool. Fans enjoy it. I'm glad we
won a super Bowl. You guys enjoy it for us.
This is twenty twenty five. This isn't last year. It
(01:48:03):
feels like it's still last year to see j Gardner
Johnson where for a long time he's gonna be like, well.
Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
I want a super Bowl, so y'all got to listen
to me. I won a super Bowl, so I can't
do anything wrong.
Speaker 6 (01:48:15):
And the way that Nick Casario and the way that
Demiko Ryans want to build their locker room, they don't
want guys like that, and there aren't really guys like that.
And when you got one like that, the result needs
to be he elevates the play and as soon as
he wasn't, as soon as he was downgrading the product
that you saw on the field, get him out of here.
Speaker 5 (01:48:35):
Well, I mean, if he was Jalen Hurts and he's
in the building and he says something like that, well
then people will probably listen. If he's you know, Saquon Barkley,
same deal there. If he's Zach Bond even people might listen,
but then it's like, also, yeah you did, but how
much really were you the reason that they won the
Super Bowl last year? I get it's a team sport,
(01:48:57):
but yeah, things like that can absolutely wear thin people.
And Aaron Wilson did have some context on it. We're
gonna actually hear from him as he joined the Matt
Thomas Show with Ross yesterday on why the Texans decided
to go this direction. So we'll do that as we
get into the nine o'clock hour here on a Western
Wednesday of Sports Talk seven to.
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Sean will be back with us tomorrow here on his
namesake show. But the Stros five to one losers last
night to the A's out there on the West Coast,
and the Guardians in Red Sox both win, so that
means no tie breakers involved. Right now, you're flat out
a game behind the Tigers and the Guardians for that
final wildcard spot as they're still battling for the Al Central.
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And we've been talking CJ.
Speaker 1 (01:51:31):
Gardner.
Speaker 5 (01:51:31):
Johnson being released by the Texans covered that a lot,
and you know, just our thoughts behind the reason at
least floated out there through reports of why the Texans
decided to move on from the veterans safety. But Aaron Wilson,
of course covers the team on a daily basis, does
some work for us here also KPRC two and he
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was on with the Matt Thomas Show yesterday and he
talked about some of the frustrations with the veteran safety
and what led to the Texans move on from.
Speaker 13 (01:52:00):
Him, there was major friction behind the teams involving season.
We've been hearing about for weeks. We didn't know if
it was going to lead to I can do when
it comes to locker room issues, if it's going to
lead to a release or a trade or some kind
of action like a benching. That's my normal labial act
that you know, you never know to get better. Is
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it festering? But I was getting feedback that he'd asked
for trade. They did not obviously entertain that that he
was complaining about his role. He wanted to blitz more often.
He did have one quarterback hit, He had no interceptions.
He was critical of teammates and their play in the secondary,
throwing guys under the bus. It was basically like almost
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as if he wanted to get kicked out. A lot
of people said it was the same modus operandi, and
you know, caused him a follow the favor in other
cities across the NFL, and it was a repeat of
that behavior here with the Texans. And yeah, I mean,
you know, these are things that can cost you your job. Ultimately,
they're on in three. They don't need more problems, you know,
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behind the scenes, and they've shown this before.
Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
They will move on.
Speaker 13 (01:53:07):
If they're having an issue like Deontay Johnson, we watched
him out after a playoff game that they won because
he didn't get the ball enough and he was promptly fired.
Speaker 5 (01:53:16):
And I mean to the point that Aaron just brought
up there with Deantay Johnson, I mean, now it's gotten
to a point where why.
Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
You even have him on your roster. I mean, clearly
there's a pattern here.
Speaker 5 (01:53:26):
Clearly there's a reason why teams the talent is there
at least, but then that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
Can you even get to use the talent? And CJ.
Speaker 5 (01:53:35):
Gardner Johnson better be careful because soon enough you get
that reputation, you better be really good to be able
to have that reputation stomached like Antonio Brown as a
player that people will bring up all the time. Well,
Antonio Brown, you also had patience because he was one
of the best receivers in the league. So you're willing
to stomach some things when you're just another guy that
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soon enough leads to oh, you're requesting a trade. Well
guess what, you're not good enough to request the trade.
We'll just cut you loose.
Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:54:04):
He led the league in interceptions in twenty twenty two,
and the Eagles didn't bring him back. He had a
great year on defense with the Detroit Lions in twenty
twenty three when the Lions had their big resurgence under
Dan Campbell and.
Speaker 1 (01:54:15):
They didn't bring him back.
Speaker 6 (01:54:16):
He had a great year last year with the Philadelphia
Eagles and helped them win a Super Bowl, and they
traded him for Kenyon Green, who they ended up cutting.
So clearly, yeah, there is something with CJ. Gardner Johnson
where he's a lot and if you're not a quarterback
or if you're not a top pass rusher, the replacement
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level of a lot of these players are a lockdown corner, right, Like,
he's kind of a does a little bit of everything
defensive back, if you're not one of those positions, or
the franchise left tackle, and even then the franchise left
tackle in Houston who was kind of a lot got traded.
So if you're not one of those guys, or even
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if you are and you're our owner, is Jerry Jones, right,
Michael Parsons, franchise defensive end, one of the best pass
rushers of the past few years, still got traded because
Jerry Jones didn't want to deal with signing him to
an extension. So these guys are on a little bit
thinner ice than you would think sometimes despite the massive
amounts of talent that some of these guys have, and
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teams will just not deal with it and get rid
of them and make them up in the aggregate. And
I think the Texans have other safeties. Jimmy Ward is
potentially back at some point with his case now going away,
even though there's a civil case still pending. And you're
relying on the younger guys, the Jalen Peatrees who is
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now healthy, and Kylen Bullock who is now healthy, and
Bulock hasn't played all that well, and Lasser hasn't played
as well. And it's the secondary that was supposed to
be the best.
Speaker 1 (01:55:49):
In the league.
Speaker 6 (01:55:49):
That's what we heard training camp from them, not from
other analysts. From them, We're going to be the best
secondary in the league. Well so far through three weeks,
played okay, but gotten burned when it matters most and
already had to fire one of the best players on
the best secondary in the league because he's a problem.
Speaker 5 (01:56:09):
Well, and to the point you brought up to about
the Micah Parsons situation, I mean that's the NFL as
a whole. The league looks to get younger and cheaper
across the board, even for guys that are still productive.
If you're too expensive, they'll look for a way to
get rid of you. So you give them a reason
to be able to move on from you, they're going
to choose the reason to move on from you, And
clearly he did.
Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
They just they.
Speaker 6 (01:56:30):
Don't deal with those kind of guys in the locker
room well, but they're willing to give it a shot. Right,
Like Stefan Diggs, we know is a lot and I'm
curious to see what would have happened if Steffan Diggs
had finished out the year last year with the Texans. Instead,
he got hurt halfway through the year. And you know
from most things like he was doing fine and he
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was okay, but he was a guy that had a
history of stuff like that, right, like trade requests and
just kind of getting really competitive and being upset about
certain things. And to Aaron's point with Deontay Johnson, like
I was in that locker room and it was a
bizarre scene where he's having to be consoled by teammates.
You just won a playoff game, yeah, right, And Deontay
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Johnson previously had not played on good teams. He'd played
on sort of the back end of the Pittsburgh Steelers
when they were super good, and then he kind of
caught the end where now they're nine to eight every year.
And then he was on the Browns like and and
then the Ravens, who are good, but he wasn't there
very long. And he goes to the Texans who are
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winning and playing better, and they win a playoff game
supposed to be a great moment, like this is awesome.
You're gonna get a plaoff bonus, you're a gonna get paid.
You get paid extra money because you won a playoff game.
So what you didn't produce? I mean, you know, what
are you pouting? The paycheck's gonna hit up and collect,
and then a second paycheck's gonna hit and he's like
mad and getting consoled by teammates.
Speaker 5 (01:57:54):
Get I get the competitiveness of it, but I mean
it is also too it's kind of like, no, you're
a man. I mean, yeah, you're here because Tank Dell
got hurt. That's a huge reason. But it's going to
be the Nico Collins show. It's going to be him
first and foremost, and I mean, I get it, probably
his perspective of really, you know, Xavier Hutchinson, he contributes
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more than I do, Jared Wayne contributes.
Speaker 1 (01:58:18):
More than I do.
Speaker 5 (01:58:19):
Like that's that's where he's coming at from that, and
I get that. But from the CJ. Gardner Johnson's side,
what's from his perspective, what what got him so frustrated?
What got him so mad with this team?
Speaker 6 (01:58:32):
It's the younger guys that don't know necessarily how to win.
And so I think that he expected that this is
a super Bowl contender, because that's what he said in
training camp, and he comes in and a lot of
the issues of the defense this year has been that
they have not been disciplined. And so you got a
guy who's coming off a super Bowl champion, who's coming
off a well, well run, tight ship. Jalen Hurts given
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his you know his quotes, Chamar Moore quotes up there
at the podium, and you start the year oh and one, Okay, fine,
you lost to Matt Stafford and the Rams. You start
the year zho and two and the way that that
last drive happened, definitely not happy about it, Like, all right,
well now we're losing and I'm not doing the role
that I want to do, and I got teammates over
here that are making more money than me, who I
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don't think are that good. And I don't like the
attitude of these people and what you sold me in
Houston of being a team on the rise and now
we're oh and three and the lost of the Jaguars.
That's where he's coming from. That's not what he signed
up for.
Speaker 5 (01:59:28):
And Aaron Wilson had a little bit more on that
with Matt and Ross yesterday from the Gardner Johnson's side
of the situation.
Speaker 13 (01:59:38):
He had a certain expectation of what he thought his
role and the way he saw himself as a player
in the defense, and that did not coincide with how
the team saw him. And so you got that kind
of disconnect, Matt. So you can either not put up
with it or you can decide we're gonna move on,
all right. And we went surprised me if he'd asked
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to be have not heard that yet, efforting that, you know,
as I continue to report throughout the day, but had
asked for or trade previously. So we'll see what happened here.
But he wasn't happy, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
So there you go.
Speaker 5 (02:00:17):
I mean, and it's also too I think part of
you hearing Aaron say that is it's like, who are
you to demand like how you're used? Like I guess
like in his mind he thinks, all right, I'm coming
to a team that needs a different mindset, needs somebody
to be a veteran leader in the secondary. And this
is how we did things where we just won a
super Bowl, where you've got guys that are like, no, dude,
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we're still pros, Like you're not really the guy that
can deliver.
Speaker 6 (02:00:41):
That type of message. I just, yeah, I don't think
that CJ. Gardner Johnson has the cachet in the NFL,
especially given the fact that he is on his third
technically but fourth team in four years. Right Eagles, Lions, Eagles,
Texans that the Eagles brought him back, but he let
the league in interceptions they got rid of him, Like
that says something. And so, yeah, you can't step into
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a new situation where you just got traded away from
for a bust first round pick and go to a
coach who is a former player, a high level NFL
player in Dimiko Ryans and go, hey, you're doing it wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:01:17):
This is how you use me? Well, what is Demiko
Ryan's supposed to say to that?
Speaker 5 (02:01:21):
Be like, broh, I get that you've got the Super Bowl,
But in terms of coaching, chops and playing, trust me,
I know where you think you're coming from and you're
not coming from it. So that's pretty much how that
conversation went. Speaking of coaches and odd tactics, well, somebody
has a shot to fire at them, and also somebody
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else catching astray.
Speaker 1 (02:01:45):
We'll let you hear from them.
Speaker 5 (02:01:47):
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Speaker 6 (02:02:09):
I don't know what's out there that is going to
be a reasonable replacement for Fred van Vliet, given how
difficult the Western conferences every year.
Speaker 5 (02:02:18):
This is one that if AC is listening, which, by
the way, the Astros lose last night five to one.
Speaker 1 (02:02:23):
Guardians and Red Sox both win.
Speaker 9 (02:02:24):
C J.
Speaker 5 (02:02:25):
Gardner Johnson gets released by the Texans, and we'll get
to what I tease too about shots and strays. We
it's gonna make sense here in just a few But
if if Adam Clanton's listening right now. He's not gonna
like my suggestion.
Speaker 6 (02:02:40):
Russell Westbrook, Jose Alvarado, Jose al Grand Theft Alverado.
Speaker 1 (02:02:44):
Yes, I don't hate it.
Speaker 6 (02:02:47):
Defense first guy undersized can knock down a three.
Speaker 1 (02:02:52):
I don't hate it.
Speaker 5 (02:02:54):
Plus, I mean a little bit of the edge that
you've lost this offseason with the trade of Dylan Brooks.
Speaker 1 (02:02:59):
But all so now, Fred van Vliet, because ye have
put you over the top.
Speaker 5 (02:03:03):
Though, I think in terms of just sheer distribution and
that edge, I think that absolutely he can help you,
for sure. But now it's the problem is New Orleans
looks at it as last year they were incredibly banged
up and injured and that's why their season didn't go
the way that they wanted it to. So I'm sure
they probably look at it and say, well, wait a minute, No,
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we've got our guys back, got a skinnier Zion Williamson.
Speaker 9 (02:03:28):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (02:03:28):
So now we feel like we're we're going to be
back in the middle of the Western Conference race. So
while we trade with somebody else that's going to be
jocking for the same position with.
Speaker 6 (02:03:37):
Us Zion less zadaranz not eating the Begnets and the
red beans and rice for a little bit. He looked
pretty good. Zion with the goatee, though, looks weird. I'm
so used to clean shaven Zion.
Speaker 5 (02:03:49):
I feel like, you know, goatee's were a nineties and
early two thousand thing that Now, if you're going to
go facial hair, you either got to go full on
beard or mustache.
Speaker 6 (02:03:58):
Jade Murray, Jade Murray's rocking like the nineteen ninety nine.
I listened to Third Eye Blind O T and Zion
looking like Dustin Hermanson. Yes, exactly, Yeah, Zion's got the
weird one. Who's a player that I wish they were
like Charlie Sheen and The Arrival. You know, who's a
player I wish the Rockets would get. But I don't
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think it's gettable for them. Is Trey Murphy be good?
Trey Murphy's good Pelicans if they ever got rid of
all their their core. Trey Murphy is gonna be on
a good Someday. Trey Murphy is gonna be on a
good team and he's gonna be a key player in
a playoffs.
Speaker 1 (02:04:33):
It might be Trey.
Speaker 5 (02:04:35):
Deadline is when you got to make this happen because
I mean I think you know, as you're getting the
camp doing all of that, it's like, why kind of
cut off our nose despite our face early on? But
I think that probably now it is going to have
to be the Aaron Holiday Reed Shepherd Show. And then
if you determine we need an upgrade, that's when you
see the upgrade that they try to go after somebody.
Speaker 6 (02:04:57):
I kind of don't mind the Alvarado idea. Honestly, this
is Adam Clanton, not like Jose Alvarado.
Speaker 5 (02:05:02):
Yeah, just you know, he's a little bit of an
ish starter and all of those things. But I've told
him numerous times just from being around him at Georgia Tech,
I said, no, he's a guy kind of like Dylan Brooks.
Speaker 1 (02:05:13):
You love him if he's on your team.
Speaker 5 (02:05:14):
This city would love Jose Alvarado on their team because
that's the thing. He would start doing this to other
teams and kind of like we couldn't stand Mono Genobili
for all those years. I wasn't like for him like
trying to start things with people. It's just gotta hate
that guy. But then you kind of think about it
and you're like, but if we had him on our team,
I think I'd really like that guy. But god, dude,
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you want to talk about a fan base that's like
so just insufferable. Those mid two thousand Spurs teams when
I was in college there in the San Antonio area
and just having to hear, oh the Spurs, the Spurs,
and it's just like, oh my god, they win basketball games,
they don't walk on water, they're fine, the International Spurs.
Speaker 1 (02:05:54):
Oh God, I mean, it's just all of it.
Speaker 5 (02:05:56):
And then of course Greg Popovich, like dude, soon enough,
like his whole just bit of oh he's a cranky
old man.
Speaker 1 (02:06:03):
All right, great, that's cool.
Speaker 5 (02:06:05):
But then once he didn't have Tim Duncan and Monogenobli
and Tony Parker or even Kawhi Leonard anymore, what happened
to him?
Speaker 1 (02:06:12):
Yeah, they stopped winning.
Speaker 6 (02:06:13):
And then he got Wemby and unfortunately he said he
had some health issues and he turned it over and
now they're going to have to try to they could
so healthy.
Speaker 5 (02:06:22):
Wemby is going to be unbelievable. Working with a Kim Olijawan,
working with Hakeem.
Speaker 6 (02:06:27):
I saw that, and Hakeem was working with Kris Sanak,
of you of h also recently as well. Hakeem's out
there getting busy. Oh he's been doing that for years.
Speaker 5 (02:06:35):
Yeah, he had worked with Lebron, he'd worked with Kobe,
tons of players, I think John even Giannis too. So
it's one of those you get an opportunity to work
with a team, you take advantage of it because well,
I mean, there is a little bit of a post
game still left and you go look at old highlights
of that footwork with kim Olaijauan. Yeah, go learn from
that guy because he'll teach you a few things. He
can't give you the footwork that he had, but at
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least he can learn you a thing. Or speaking of
somebody who once they didn't have somebody around when we
started to look at them differently, Bill Belichick, yep, and
you know, hey, the Patriots way.
Speaker 1 (02:07:09):
No, it was the Tom Brady way.
Speaker 5 (02:07:10):
And once you lost number twelve, you've quickly realized, hey,
Mac Jones isn't Tom Brady. And this thing is now
over with Well, of course he's coaching in the college
game now and a huge part of his story now
is Jordan Hudson, who would and we all know the
age difference. I don't have to remind people, but also
to seemingly her being overbearing with the program and kind
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of overstepping boundaries.
Speaker 1 (02:07:35):
So I believe this.
Speaker 5 (02:07:36):
Was before the game the other day where they're playing
against UCF and she's on the sidelines talking with Bill,
and people are like, what is this? Because you will see,
like people, they'll bring up the comparison of Nick Saban,
Miss Terry and somebody I did hear say, well, you know,
miss Terry's on the sidelines. I'm like, she's in the
tunnel as he's walking out there. Quick, hug really quick,
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have a good game. And then afterwards, of course you
know she goes up to the booth and he coaches
the game. I mean, that's that's all part of it. Well,
the guys on Wake Up Barstool on FS one, we're
talking about it, and of course John Gruden is part
of Barstool Now, and they asked him about it. And
while the shot was intended for Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson,
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somebody else caught astray.
Speaker 1 (02:08:23):
Take a listen.
Speaker 16 (02:08:24):
I've never seen anything like that. You know, Mike Lombardi
works for North Carolina. I've heard him criticize me several times.
I'm sure he'll produce a TikTok today explaining exactly what
was going on there.
Speaker 5 (02:08:37):
And Mike Lombardi, of course, former NFL executive who's the
GM of the UNC football program, and he is somebody
that did spend time in the media, and I think
that probably there is a little bit of don't you
feel like there is like kind of a like once
you cross that line, you kind of really have to
dial it back once you get back in, because there
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might be some of the league who still don't trust
you because they're like, well, you might still talk to
those people at NFL network or at ESPN or wherever else.
So I can't get where he's coming from from that
perspective where he's like, hey, wait a minute, man, you
were one of the media types coming after me. So yeah,
you know, you want to try to like hill for
this guy and try to, like, you know, try to
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try to explain why this type of behavior is okay,
all right, fine, I'll take my shots at you.
Speaker 6 (02:09:25):
And Michael Barty being in the media for a while
should have a greater understanding of what that entails and
knowing the angles and how it works, and why John
Gruden would feel that way. However, I'm gonna push back
on Gruden here for a little bit. You're making fun
of Michael Lombardi doing tiktoks. John Gruden has a ticket.
You seen John Gruden's TikTok? Oh, they're great. The unboxing Yeah,
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I got a box today from the LSU Tigers.
Speaker 1 (02:09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:09:51):
Man, Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Great Dell, bit Tyrone,
Matthew the honey Badger, the got me feeling nicey thing
where there's like two camera cuts. You can't tell me
that John Gruden is not thinking through how the tiktoks
are made. He is because there's multiple camera angles. So
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don't you pot Colin Kettle Black right, don't give me
the he's gonna make a TikTok about it, buddy, have
you seen your TikTok?
Speaker 1 (02:10:20):
You're active as well.
Speaker 5 (02:10:21):
But the difference is, I mean, he's in the media
and Grutin to his point, has even said he wants
to get back into coaching, so I think if he does,
he's going to get rid of all of that. But
I mean it is also to the point that I
brought up about Lombardi is well, he kind of run
into that too, of.
Speaker 1 (02:10:35):
All right, well who else do you talk to?
Speaker 9 (02:10:36):
Dude?
Speaker 5 (02:10:37):
But I mean I think he's been coaching long enough
that he probably would understand that that's part of it. Yeah,
I mean, he's he gets to be on a show
where it gets to say his piece. Now, there is
very hard to defend you and see at this point
they're not winning. Belichick is clearly not as into it
or at least trying to treat these college kids the
way that he did Richard Seymour, which doesn't all work.
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The girlfriend thing is obviously no matter how many people
went after Pablo Torri, He's right, it's weird, and it
colors everything that he does at UNC and everything as
a coach, and he is ruining his legacy because that
is there's something in psychology called the primacy and the
recency effect. You remember in a list of twenty things
that I tell you, you're gonna remember the first thing, you're
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gonna remember the last thing. And so the things that
you are gonna remember about Bill Belichick years from now
is six super Bowls. Young girlfriend doesn't matter. Everything else in.
Speaker 6 (02:11:31):
Between, how brilliant he was as a coach, or that
his dad was at Navy or all these other things.
Speaker 1 (02:11:36):
Great football coach, young girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (02:11:37):
That's it, And it just kind of flies in the
face of what we thought we knew about the guy
from when he was the control freak there in New
England and now I mean allowing things like this and
you're just.
Speaker 1 (02:11:47):
Kind of like, dude, I mean, seriously, man, what are
you doing.
Speaker 5 (02:11:50):
I mean, I think most of us understand, but at
the same time, I mean, it's just like, don't do
this to yourself, like it almost is for me, Like
why did you come back like just the retired. Just
stay retired and do your little airplane pose, you know
photos and you know she's a a mermaid and you're
a fisherman Halloween photos.
Speaker 1 (02:12:10):
Do all of that. That's fine.
Speaker 6 (02:12:12):
You're retired, enjoy life, get in the Banning show once
a week. You know, when you got other people who
are starting to count on YouTube, keep your job, then yeah,
it becomes a problem.
Speaker 1 (02:12:22):
Man. It's yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:12:24):
It's bizarre that he especially got into college football, and
especially in this era of college football, because previously on
this show we were talking about how Dabo Sweeney and
Mike Gundy were sort of or are sort of getting
phased out Gundy already did Sweeney might be tot seat
getting phased out.
Speaker 1 (02:12:43):
Of how coach somewhere else? Man?
Speaker 6 (02:12:45):
Yeah, oh, when how different the game we want? We
won the league last eight out of ten years? Is
that not good? Tyler from Spartanburg? How Daris, I ain't
gonna listen to you, Tyler? And that also ended Collins
to the Dabos show. Those guys are getting phased out
because they don't want to adjust. So now you have
a guy who hasn't had to adjust for however many
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years and was in the pros, which is in one
sense more work, in another sense less work, right, Like
there's no recruiting and having to deal with dad and
the kids and all the like, dealing with high school kids.
And I don't have kids, and I imagine many of
our listeners do, and many of our listeners have high
school kids. And I'm sure you know that dealing with
high school kids is probably real annoying versus dealing with
(02:13:30):
twenty five thirty year old grown men in the NFL.
So now Belichick signed up to deal with the recruiting
aspect of not just the college kids he's coaching, but
the recruiting aspect of dealing with high school kids.
Speaker 5 (02:13:41):
What does Bill Belichick know? He clearly knows something about
college kids, but knows how to relate to the youth.
Speaker 6 (02:13:47):
Yeah, what does he know about this new areas the
youth of college football with the high school kids? Like
imagine explaining to Bill Belichick like the rise of commitment
graphics and like why would he care? And that's something
that is a meeting I guarantee you he had at
(02:14:08):
UNC and is something the staff and that meeting was
like Bill, this is actually important and there's a reason
we're doing this on your Tuesday. And he's sitting there
staring at him like what the hell is this? And
they're like, no, now, you signed up for doing college
This is an important part of your week.
Speaker 5 (02:14:25):
Yeah, you gotta go to high school basketball games, all
that kind of stuff part of it, Billy, All right,
let's get back into the astros because they tell you
that they understand the situation. But is it too late?
We'll discuss here. It is a Sean Salisbury show on
a Western Wednesday, Sports Talk seven to ninety, But lunch
is right around the corner. I mean we're halfway through
(02:14:47):
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Speaker 1 (02:15:07):
I should know. A few weeks ago is my birthday.
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Speaker 2 (02:16:22):
For the Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (02:16:26):
We'll squeeze in Brandon here on the phone line, says
we continue along on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (02:16:32):
Good morning, Brandon, good morning, how are you good man?
Speaker 10 (02:16:36):
I was whistling on our way home.
Speaker 7 (02:16:40):
The Astros.
Speaker 9 (02:16:43):
You're you're very very upset.
Speaker 10 (02:16:47):
I was.
Speaker 5 (02:16:48):
It was so much, Brandon that I had to have
Mattress Mac Collin to try to calm me down.
Speaker 1 (02:16:52):
And I appreciate him doing that.
Speaker 6 (02:16:54):
But uh yeah, I think probably I felt like most
of us did, where it's like, God, we should have
won that game.
Speaker 12 (02:17:01):
Yeah, and I heard him on the phone.
Speaker 5 (02:17:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know Mac Mac gave us a call.
It was awesome to catch up with him, for sure.
Speaker 7 (02:17:12):
Yeah, I am.
Speaker 14 (02:17:17):
Can you do me a favor, I'll do my best.
Speaker 12 (02:17:22):
If you hear Mattress Mac say, Astro.
Speaker 5 (02:17:27):
Do the thing, okay, Yeah, I mean I'm sure he's
probably even listening right now to appreciate it, buddy.
Speaker 1 (02:17:34):
We'll catch up you soon.
Speaker 5 (02:17:36):
Yeah, yeah, Max, Max always listening, man, So no appreciate
that or Roy or anybody else over there at Uh
you know, between Tidwell and Parker, you know the spot
shit right up there.
Speaker 1 (02:17:47):
The man's the man.
Speaker 5 (02:17:50):
You come to Houston and you know, I mean, you
think they win that World Series in twenty twenty two.
If Philly fans don't disrespect Mattress Mac, you think that
we're able to feel even better about the World Series win.
If Paul Wall and Frankie j and how about them
Strows don't mention way back when they disrespected Mattress Mack. Yeah,
you think any of that happens, No, that was That
(02:18:10):
was a fun twenty twenty two with Mattress Mack in
Philia was so fun going up the rocky steps with
him and just the you know, the fans that he
brought with and you know, doing the stuff for the community.
Speaker 1 (02:18:23):
That was good.
Speaker 6 (02:18:23):
Good to see that Houston kind of has has an
icon like that's a little little character because they don't
get a lot of love, especially in the national media,
and to sort of tie that in and have, just
like Mattress mac be the character that he is not
a bad character to have, right.
Speaker 1 (02:18:41):
He's the best.
Speaker 5 (02:18:42):
I mean he and I've told the story before for
those of you that don't know it. I got to
go to Rome on a Catholic pilgrimage because he paid
for four kids and a faculty member from every school
in the Catholic diocese to go back in two thousand
and two. So I'll always be appreciative of that guy.
So macfeel listening.
Speaker 11 (02:18:59):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:19:00):
You're always welcome on here, but you're also welcome into
it's someone three two one two five seven ninety against
someone three two one two five at seven ninety continue
the Astros conversation because we all some things said last
night that I was like, Okay, hey.
Speaker 1 (02:19:14):
Cool, love to hear it.
Speaker 5 (02:19:15):
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Speaker 5 (02:21:54):
Seb one three, two, one, two five seven ninety is
the number to get in. We heard Jospotis comments earlier
the bats have to factor. It's we've got to have
better at bats. And then you know somebody asking, oh, well,
what about the injuries, and he was like, no, there's
guys in that room that can get the job done.
Speaker 1 (02:22:09):
They're just not getting the job done.
Speaker 5 (02:22:10):
In so many words, he said, paraphrasing, it wasn't that pointed,
but you could tell that frustration had boiled over. And
I talked about where you know, the camera shot in
the dugout Carlos Correa, Like there's frustration, Like it's a hey,
we can't just continue to rest on what we've done
and be comfortable with you know, hey, we'll figure it out.
Like clearly there needs to be even more urgency for
(02:22:32):
how this thing is going.
Speaker 1 (02:22:34):
There's there does and.
Speaker 6 (02:22:36):
You have five games left, you are in danger of
not making the playoffs for the first time in nearly
a decade, and you're either gonna be able to get
the job done or you're not, and you're gonna have
a very upset fan base this whole offseason who has
gotten used to winning, who has gotten used to the
inevitability of the Astros being able to get it done
when their backs are against the wall. And that's the
(02:22:58):
reason that Joe spot is so calm in these sitsuations
is because the Astros have been inevitable. But right now,
you know, it feels inevitable that they can't hit.
Speaker 5 (02:23:07):
Yeah, no, that's definitely true, and that's been kind of
the story for much of the season.
Speaker 1 (02:23:11):
Larry and Stafford wants away in good morning Larry.
Speaker 7 (02:23:14):
Hey, good morning, Bulldog. Don't make me go and pull
out that old dog fish shirt man in head to Laverne,
your man, when you play the King like that, man,
you know that that just that just triggers me to
be able to go do a kig stand man. Yeah, yeah,
sure it does. And you know what I'm talking about.
But let's talk Hey, Ari, It's always good to hear
(02:23:34):
you in here too, Man, appreciate it watching you for
a long time, brother, and uh, you know, hopefully good
things are in line for you man on your next adventure.
Speaker 10 (02:23:42):
Man.
Speaker 7 (02:23:42):
But look, let's talk Astros real quick, Bulldog. Yeah, the
DSE boys are starting to act like they have no
interest in trying to get into the playoffs, and that's
indictment of what's going on over there and what's been
going on all season, because this thing in the West
should have been wrapped up about a month ago when
we had an opportunity to put Seattle in the dirt.
But that isn't what happened. I'll tell you what better happened.
(02:24:03):
They better figure out how to win the next five
games because if they missed the playoffs. You are absolutely right,
there's gonna be a fan base around here that's gonna
question Jim Crane and a lot of the decision making
that him and Dana have done all season.
Speaker 9 (02:24:16):
And there's no excuse.
Speaker 7 (02:24:18):
Man, if you're trying to convince me that there's no
talent in that locker room over there on Crawford, Man,
that's right across from Vic and Anthony's, I'm gonna be
convinced that you don't know the hell you talking about
when you come to talking about sports. Now, they got
to get this thing figured out. They're playing the A's
and the California Angels. Come on, man, they have nothing
to play for. Figure it out, astros are I'm gonna
(02:24:38):
be pissed. Now, let's talk about the Texas real quick.
I don't have a problem with them getting rid of CJ.
Speaker 1 (02:24:43):
If he's a problem.
Speaker 7 (02:24:45):
See, I'm believed in the squad Man and Demiko Rise
and them boys believe that that dude was causing that
kind of interest and conflict over there. Get his ass
out of the locker room because here's what I know
about cancer, and I don't know if CJ was a
cancer or not. I just knew that he was a
dog and he played on my defense. But if you're
gonna let somebody critique you and criticize other players in
the locker room when he ain't doing his job, now,
(02:25:07):
dogs that ain't gonna work, get your ass packed up.
Speaker 9 (02:25:09):
We'll send you.
Speaker 7 (02:25:10):
Are you going on the Philly or wherever you're gonna
gonna go, And good riddings, man, because here's the thing
we're going through. Oh and three, we don't have time
for all this kind of silliness. They better figure out
how to beat these damn Titans, because if they lose
to the Titans, then you might as well go ahead
and fold the book and close it and put it
on the chef, because.
Speaker 1 (02:25:27):
It is not no coming back from that.
Speaker 7 (02:25:29):
And all you texting fans that I out here wondering about, well,
Larry ain't going to the Titans game because he don't
believe in the squad. You a damn lie. Let me explain.
Some of y'all have family members that have decided that
they want to plan a wedding and.
Speaker 1 (02:25:42):
Have the wedding in September, and.
Speaker 7 (02:25:44):
We have had this discussion before that how stupid that is.
Now I choose to continue to stay married. I am
not happy about it, but I'm going to go to
this wedding because i have to go because I'm married.
But if me not going to the Titans game, that's
hard for me. But I'll tell you what. I'm gonna
be back with my boys, get back on track.
Speaker 5 (02:26:05):
And ah, there you go, Larry appreciate it. Yeah, no
fall weddings hashtag no fall weddings.
Speaker 1 (02:26:09):
We know that.
Speaker 5 (02:26:10):
Although my brother one year decided that Georgia, Florida weekend
was when he and my sister in law would get married.
And they decided that and it worked out because it
was Mark Rick's final game. So I was like, good
thing I didn't have to be there for that.
Speaker 6 (02:26:23):
I got two of them coming up back to back
weeks in October, an Indian wedding and Reno and an
Albanian wedding here that I am officiating.
Speaker 1 (02:26:32):
Side note, Well, I have the platform.
Speaker 6 (02:26:34):
If you'd like me to officiate your wedding, you know
where to find me on social media.
Speaker 1 (02:26:38):
I am now of the Universal Life.
Speaker 6 (02:26:40):
Church for the cloth of the cloth minister, so I
can officiate your.
Speaker 5 (02:26:44):
Wedding if needed. God bless you son, good for you.
There you go, so Ari Alexander, He's available for you
in your.
Speaker 6 (02:26:51):
Ceremonies, especially Oshanatova for Rushashana.
Speaker 5 (02:26:54):
That's it, yeah, I saw that yesterday. So happy celebration
to you and the chosen ones. Yes here in the
in the fall months. But no, appreciate everybody for joining
us here on the show. Appreciate you for the last
few days, man, I appreciate it. It's been wonderful. It's
been awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:27:09):
Man. He's our Alexander and for Sewan. Sewan back in tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (02:27:12):
Don't forget Astros GM Dana Brown gonna join us for
his weekly visit tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (02:27:17):
He's Triple E.
Speaker 5 (02:27:18):
Emmanuel Elmore doing a great job as always. Back there,
Dan Matthews here with you the Matt Thomas Show with
Ross coming up next. We will talk to you in
twenty hours, hopefully after an Astros win.
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