June 20, 2025 • 8 mins
Concluding their 4 game series in Sacramento, the Astros split the series 2-2 following last nights loss late in the 10th with a final score of 6-4. For his 2nd walk-off homer this series, Nick Kurtz pushes the A's over to another victory taking two from the Astros himself. With timely hitting still a bit of a concern for the Astros', Sean and Dan take a moment evaluating last nights loss along with tossing around a few possibilities of what could the Astros' identity tend to look like when the postseason approaches as we are now roughly 75 games into the season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Sean, I mean, as I've mentioned, and people
(00:02):
at this point probably think it's a personal crusade of oh,
here's Dean getting upset with the hitters again. But what
if I gave you the good things that the hitters
have done this season?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Because there I mean re But Gordy pointed out, aren't
they second in the league in batting average?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Now that's one of them to fifty six as a team.
You go, so you got that going for you. Eighth
in the league with runners in scoring position two fifty
seven this season, so or not with runners in scoring position,
runners in scoring position two outs this season?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
They are? They are top ten in that.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And yes there are the frustrating parts grounding into double plays.
They're third in baseball with sixty six this season. But
for all the things that we've mentioned, and for yes,
the frustrations, like I said, two three four, last night,
peretis not great, al Tuove he had a night that
he'd like to forget. Same with Jiner Diaz. Is it
(00:57):
feeds into the constant thing that we've talked about with
this team. It's a good thing to be frustrated with
being eleven games over five hundred because that's as Kirby
Smart said, crying from the yacht. You know, there's no
there's no crying on the yacht. You're you're frustrated on
the yacht right now. Maybe the steak was a little
bit overdone, you know, any of those things. The martini
(01:20):
wasn't completely shaken the way that you like it. That's fine,
You're not. You're still sitting pretty, You're still doing good.
And that's the part that you get to with the Astros.
Is no jord On, even a guy like Zach Dezenzo,
you know, even a guy like Chas McCormick. Whoever, it
is guys who are struggling, like Christian Walker and Joiner Diez,
(01:40):
which has been pretty pronounced throughout this part of the season.
It's mid June. It's mid June, and you're doing all
these things right now. I have to tell you, I
think this portends to be good things down the road,
and you hope that it is able to come along
at the right time because you'd like for it to
come along leading in the October.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Okay, you're obviously spirited about this and have been for
a while about the play, as we all are hitting.
But you got your approach to it, which I like,
what do you think? And I want to stone cold No,
not saying you put fluff on it, but the unequivocal
way you feel truth, full transparency. Seventy games from now
(02:22):
September first, what are you going to be saying.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
About the offense? What do you believe you'll be saying
the truth on the surface?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
No, I'm talking about deep in your soul. When I
ask you the question on September first, what are you
going to be saying?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Still? Still would like more? Okay, So you don't.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Like who they are this year, It doesn't mean they
can't win a World Series. It doesn't mean they're not
going to have the best record in the American League,
because the numbers I gave you showed you they can't.
And the record shows you did five hundred less than
five hundred baseball the rest of the year.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
A little.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You play five hundred baseball for the next would I
say seventy games?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You are still what eleven twelve.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Games over five hundred, ten games, whatever it is, And
then the last twelve if you play five and seven baseball,
you're ninety to ninety two.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You're winning the division. And so there you.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Have it, so you you you still believe great things
can happen being on the yacht. But maybe the the
car ride to the yacht was a little behind. Like
you said, they they were missing the ice cube. You
like for your, for your for your, you know your your.
You're the one drink you love in hand, right, You're
the bourbon that you don't want on the rocks, or
whatever it is, or the food that they they ran
(03:42):
out of the thing. You're whatever. But you're still in
the yacht, is your point. But you say, when I'm
sitting here having this conversation with you, your energy for the offense,
you don't think will be much different in September than now.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I just from from what I've seen from a game
to game basis, now, I could be one hundred percent wrong.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It's what is this interrogatory. It's just the way you
see the team set up right now?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, I just I see a group that seemingly hammer's
nails in halfway?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Okay, can you win a World Series with this offense? Forget,
don't don't talk pitching, just with the offense pitching's average.
Can the offense win a World Series? That's if the
pitching was average. Can this offense is average?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
No, the pitching has to be stellar, okay for you
to win stellar, right, So stell the way it's been.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Now, so if the pitching, if it stays the way
it's been, can they win a World Series?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Stays the way it's been.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Absolutely they can, because it's the reason that you're in
this position that you're in.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It ain't the hitters.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Okay, So stays the way it's been, and then you
add health. Even if it stays the way it's been.
When you add the health, do you think you're still
having this conversation in September?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
You do, right, that's in us. But they still can
win a World Series. So you believe in the team.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You just don't think offense is going to carry them
for a consistent amount of time throughout the year.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
It's not fair.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It's not gonna be the reason that you win games,
but it can be a rea the reason you win
the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
It's gonna be reason you win some games at times.
Twenty two is that way, right?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I mean twenty two you had to kind of slug
through it.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
They're a little bit slogged through it. They're a little
bit and they.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Didn't slug through it enough as what you're saying right slog,
but they still found a way.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I mean even Game six right there, where you're down
one nothing and you get the massive shot from Jordaan
there and then Christian Voskia is able to knock home
another run. But you're pitching at that point. Once you
got to the six seventh inning, you were like, guys,
unless this thing completely falls off the rail, this thing's over.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Here's just one. Here's the way I feel about them.
I think the pitching is without question at starting in bullpen,
without question, it's not even a thought process. Is the
strength of this team in twenty twenty five, not only
from what we see when you ask me the question
in September, I believe we're gonna be sitting here and saying,
can you believe the pitching staff has done this and
(05:48):
they're finally getting healthy? I believe you're gonna hear that.
For me at the hitting, I'm similar to you. I
believe you're gonna see more power in the second half
of the season. Well, it stands the reason with you
are on more than likely back. We hope if things
go as we hear more power, not just with him,
but as a team in a more feared lineup, even
(06:09):
though this one you may out fear it, but it's productive.
You've got to think about it if you're a pitching staff.
The way they're just kind of hang in and they're
a little young and they're doing it. It's not traditional
for the way the Astros do things right, but what
is traditional is the resilience and finding ways to get
clutch hits in their World Series runs that they got
when they were necessary. Last year was a little bit different.
I think we're going to be having the conversation when
(06:31):
the season's over. They're going to be right there with
a chance and the American League to represent, and they'll
win the division. And I didn't I didn't pick them
to win the division at the beginning. I think they're
going to now because I didn't expect pitching to do
this again. And I do think that they'll have more power,
but I think that you're the part of the bitch
will have most of the season will be oh that's
(06:53):
four starts in a row by the pitching staff, that
it won't be that it may be. And the six
straight games that we've scored less than five rounds. You
may get that, you will get more power. There's still
a threat they can still win it. And it comes
down to the fact that because this pitching is always
going to beat good hitting, or at least.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Most of the time.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Should I say, and in a long series is you
just got to hope you don't run into better pitching
in a two games the three game series where you
lose too, hence Detroit last year, and that's what happened
this team. Be honest with you, I'm not so sure
this is going to sound crazy overall. Comfortable is not
the right word. I trust the pitching staff and I
(07:35):
trust hitters, but until we see a body of work
again where they've extended the sustained great play at the plate,
I told you at the beginning of the year, I
felt that this was going to be one of those
They're just going to have to resilient their way through
some crap this year at the plate, injuries and when
I say crap, not the player, just stuff you go through.
But pitching will bail them out more than hitting will.
(07:56):
That's my bottom line. And I still think they can
win the whole thing. The American competitive but the National
League that'll be a true test when you get there,
but you still gotta get through Detroit and some good
pitching along the way yourself. They're gonna have to match
that pitching all year long and get clutch it when
it matters there at the end of the year. They're
not gonna be leading the league at home runs, so
let's just put it that way.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Perhaps some good news though, for the shows that we
can share with you here in the top of the
fourth hour of the show, we'll do that. It is
the Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety
All right, Sean, I mean, as I've mentioned, and people
(00:02):
at this point probably think it's a personal crusade of oh,
here's Dean getting upset with the hitters again. But what
if I gave you the good things that the hitters
have done this season?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Because there I mean re But Gordy pointed out, aren't
they second in the league in batting average?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Now that's one of them to fifty six as a team.
You go, so you got that going for you. Eighth
in the league with runners in scoring position two fifty
seven this season, so or not with runners in scoring position,
runners in scoring position two outs this season?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
They are? They are top ten in that.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And yes there are the frustrating parts grounding into double plays.
They're third in baseball with sixty six this season. But
for all the things that we've mentioned, and for yes,
the frustrations, like I said, two three four, last night,
peretis not great, al Tuove he had a night that
he'd like to forget. Same with Jiner Diaz. Is it
(00:57):
feeds into the constant thing that we've talked about with
this team. It's a good thing to be frustrated with
being eleven games over five hundred because that's as Kirby
Smart said, crying from the yacht. You know, there's no
there's no crying on the yacht. You're you're frustrated on
the yacht right now. Maybe the steak was a little
bit overdone, you know, any of those things. The martini
(01:20):
wasn't completely shaken the way that you like it. That's fine,
You're not. You're still sitting pretty, You're still doing good.
And that's the part that you get to with the Astros.
Is no jord On, even a guy like Zach Dezenzo,
you know, even a guy like Chas McCormick. Whoever, it
is guys who are struggling, like Christian Walker and Joiner Diez,
(01:40):
which has been pretty pronounced throughout this part of the season.
It's mid June. It's mid June, and you're doing all
these things right now. I have to tell you, I
think this portends to be good things down the road,
and you hope that it is able to come along
at the right time because you'd like for it to
come along leading in the October.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Okay, you're obviously spirited about this and have been for
a while about the play, as we all are hitting.
But you got your approach to it, which I like,
what do you think? And I want to stone cold No,
not saying you put fluff on it, but the unequivocal
way you feel truth, full transparency. Seventy games from now
(02:22):
September first, what are you going to be saying.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
About the offense? What do you believe you'll be saying
the truth on the surface?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
No, I'm talking about deep in your soul. When I
ask you the question on September first, what are you
going to be saying?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Still? Still would like more? Okay, So you don't.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Like who they are this year, It doesn't mean they
can't win a World Series. It doesn't mean they're not
going to have the best record in the American League,
because the numbers I gave you showed you they can't.
And the record shows you did five hundred less than
five hundred baseball the rest of the year.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
A little.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You play five hundred baseball for the next would I
say seventy games?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You are still what eleven twelve.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Games over five hundred, ten games, whatever it is, And
then the last twelve if you play five and seven baseball,
you're ninety to ninety two.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You're winning the division. And so there you.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Have it, so you you you still believe great things
can happen being on the yacht. But maybe the the
car ride to the yacht was a little behind. Like
you said, they they were missing the ice cube. You
like for your, for your for your, you know your your.
You're the one drink you love in hand, right, You're
the bourbon that you don't want on the rocks, or
whatever it is, or the food that they they ran
(03:42):
out of the thing. You're whatever. But you're still in
the yacht, is your point. But you say, when I'm
sitting here having this conversation with you, your energy for the offense,
you don't think will be much different in September than now.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I just from from what I've seen from a game
to game basis, now, I could be one hundred percent wrong.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It's what is this interrogatory. It's just the way you
see the team set up right now?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, I just I see a group that seemingly hammer's
nails in halfway?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Okay, can you win a World Series with this offense? Forget,
don't don't talk pitching, just with the offense pitching's average.
Can the offense win a World Series? That's if the
pitching was average. Can this offense is average?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
No, the pitching has to be stellar, okay for you
to win stellar, right, So stell the way it's been.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Now, so if the pitching, if it stays the way
it's been, can they win a World Series?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Stays the way it's been.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Absolutely they can, because it's the reason that you're in
this position that you're in.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It ain't the hitters.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Okay, So stays the way it's been, and then you
add health. Even if it stays the way it's been.
When you add the health, do you think you're still
having this conversation in September?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
You do, right, that's in us. But they still can
win a World Series. So you believe in the team.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You just don't think offense is going to carry them
for a consistent amount of time throughout the year.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
It's not fair.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It's not gonna be the reason that you win games,
but it can be a rea the reason you win
the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
It's gonna be reason you win some games at times.
Twenty two is that way, right?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I mean twenty two you had to kind of slug
through it.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
They're a little bit slogged through it. They're a little
bit and they.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Didn't slug through it enough as what you're saying right slog,
but they still found a way.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I mean even Game six right there, where you're down
one nothing and you get the massive shot from Jordaan
there and then Christian Voskia is able to knock home
another run. But you're pitching at that point. Once you
got to the six seventh inning, you were like, guys,
unless this thing completely falls off the rail, this thing's over.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Here's just one. Here's the way I feel about them.
I think the pitching is without question at starting in bullpen,
without question, it's not even a thought process. Is the
strength of this team in twenty twenty five, not only
from what we see when you ask me the question
in September, I believe we're gonna be sitting here and saying,
can you believe the pitching staff has done this and
(05:48):
they're finally getting healthy? I believe you're gonna hear that.
For me at the hitting, I'm similar to you. I
believe you're gonna see more power in the second half
of the season. Well, it stands the reason with you
are on more than likely back. We hope if things
go as we hear more power, not just with him,
but as a team in a more feared lineup, even
(06:09):
though this one you may out fear it, but it's productive.
You've got to think about it if you're a pitching staff.
The way they're just kind of hang in and they're
a little young and they're doing it. It's not traditional
for the way the Astros do things right, but what
is traditional is the resilience and finding ways to get
clutch hits in their World Series runs that they got
when they were necessary. Last year was a little bit different.
I think we're going to be having the conversation when
(06:31):
the season's over. They're going to be right there with
a chance and the American League to represent, and they'll
win the division. And I didn't I didn't pick them
to win the division at the beginning. I think they're
going to now because I didn't expect pitching to do
this again. And I do think that they'll have more power,
but I think that you're the part of the bitch
will have most of the season will be oh that's
(06:53):
four starts in a row by the pitching staff, that
it won't be that it may be. And the six
straight games that we've scored less than five rounds. You
may get that, you will get more power. There's still
a threat they can still win it. And it comes
down to the fact that because this pitching is always
going to beat good hitting, or at least.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Most of the time.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Should I say, and in a long series is you
just got to hope you don't run into better pitching
in a two games the three game series where you
lose too, hence Detroit last year, and that's what happened
this team. Be honest with you, I'm not so sure
this is going to sound crazy overall. Comfortable is not
the right word. I trust the pitching staff and I
(07:35):
trust hitters, but until we see a body of work
again where they've extended the sustained great play at the plate,
I told you at the beginning of the year, I
felt that this was going to be one of those
They're just going to have to resilient their way through
some crap this year at the plate, injuries and when
I say crap, not the player, just stuff you go through.
But pitching will bail them out more than hitting will.
(07:56):
That's my bottom line. And I still think they can
win the whole thing. The American competitive but the National
League that'll be a true test when you get there,
but you still gotta get through Detroit and some good
pitching along the way yourself. They're gonna have to match
that pitching all year long and get clutch it when
it matters there at the end of the year. They're
not gonna be leading the league at home runs, so
let's just put it that way.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Perhaps some good news though, for the shows that we
can share with you here in the top of the
fourth hour of the show, we'll do that. It is
the Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety
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