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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh very Salisbury house did okay, let's do this Sewn
Salisbury to USC troupe, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthews. This is the Sewn Salsbury Show.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Don Salisbury, Triple Lee, Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews here with you.
Cam Smith has made the opening day roster. Seam goes
for Zach Desenzo Opening Day coming up tomorrow. Rockets beat
the Hawks won twenty one one fourteen, Jalen Green thirty
two points and Stefan Diggs now a former Texan. He's
with the New England Patriots three years sixty nine million. However,

(00:46):
only twenty six of that is guaranteed. So Sean, it
has happened, Cam Smith, exactly as you.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Thought it was going to play out.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
I came around to it because last week I wouldn't
say that. I was like all the way of oh,
there's there's no chance. I just thought that at the
time the Astros were going to take the off ramp.
But then once you started to see some of the
cuts happening, John Singleton other guys starting to be told
you're not on the roster, and I saw that he
was still here, I was like well, you would think

(01:18):
if they had the easiest option right there to be
able to, like I said, take that off ramp, they
would have done it.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
And they didn't do it. They brought them back. I
couldn't back off it the whole time. Man, for the
last two and a half weeks. It's just like I couldn't.
I mean, I listen when you were talking about it
just seems and I the one thing that when Dana
Brown had said we got a lot of tough decisions,
that was almost felt like a warning. We had talked
about it last week that oh he's going to go down,
so just be prepared, but it'll be okay. Right, And

(01:46):
kudos Sid for having the guts with not just him
descends on it, to have the guts to know that
these three two cats are part of an unbelievably bright future.
They belong here, and I am one hundred percent on board.
I couldn't back off my feelings just because you know,
we're not making the decisions and the building their sure
as hell not listening to us to make their decisions
for them. We all have an opinion on it. I

(02:08):
just kept going through to the brass tax of this
two people worried about twenty twenty nine or twenty thirty
when his when it comes up, you buy it out
and he's gonna get a kind if he plays. If
he's doing what he's doing now, you might as well
enjoy him because eventually he ain't gonna be here, So

(02:30):
you should start worrying more about that. That can you
pay a guy if this assent goes like it's going good. Gracious,
Now we're a long ways away from that. But people
are so worried about, oh, he can't play major League
baseball because well that extra year. At some point in
time they'll I'll deal with twenty thirty in twenty thirty. Right,

(02:51):
there's so much that happens in between now and then
performance and everything else. I just kept going back to
the brass tax of your best players. You need. This
is a bridge year when you've had some major changes.
They've had changes every off season, the third basement in
the right fielder. Those are monster changes. And the truth

(03:11):
the matter is the guy in right field now, he
not Kyle Tucker yet, but I got news for you.
He got every ounce of skill set Kyle Tucker has
with more raw power. That's saying something because that's sending
you and Kyle Tucker gets more power than we think.
You know what I'm saying. I'm five tool guy, and
we we're not there yet, but we know why. Cam
Smith was a big part of, if not the biggest

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portion of this trade outside of Kyle Tucker going to them.
So I just couldn't get away from thinking about, Okay,
NFL people I've been around, or even basketball the years
I've known Billy Bean, the A's who's a buddy of mine,
just of how you do business. Now, Billy was different
because the money situation, but just on prospects and how

(03:58):
baseball and football and basketball people, you have to think.
I get that if you had the luxury of keeping
him down for a couple of from fifteen games, but
I think that was what we read, they'd bring him
back up to get it. But I think they're also thinking, listen, man,
when we come to that time five years from now,
we'll handle you. Buy him down and take care of

(04:18):
what you got to do or extend him. Okay. As
a matter of fact, I would imagine that they think
the kid's good enough that they're not even going to
that's not even going to be an issue when the
time comes.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Great.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
So I just I couldn't get over the fact thinking, Okay,
look at the outfield, look at the what you've lost power? Energy.
I'm telling you right now I felt yesterday when when
the decision was finally made, and I told you guys
this on the show you and go to yesterday that
he's a ticket seller. I'm telling you now that I

(04:50):
believe people are going to go to the ballpark to
see him. Because now, while it may not be the
day when when Harper came up, because he was so
highly publicized as a kid in Vegas, right, but I'm
just telling you I believe that you were sitting on
a fence he said, Oh my gosh, he started, I'm
going I'm gonna buy an I'm gonna buy a ticket.
He's that guy, right, I mean that energy. And so

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when you looked at he checked the boxes. There was
only one reason one to send him down if you
wanted that extra year that you were worried about five
years from now. Other than that, there is no read
he wasn't gonna get better down there. He's already proved
that he can rake against any of them. He was
going to go face the same type of pitch and
he faced in spring training. He wasn't to be challenged
by playing up all these things. And then you got

(05:35):
to talk to him and just watch his demeanor. This
wasn't just about performance. I guarant asked to you. They
had a laser on him all spring to see is
this kid really liked it? And then every single day
that went by, he did nothing to have you say, nah,
can't do it. They went in. I think you go
and say, and he's going to the minor leagues. And
then day one goes hmmm, day two, and then you

(05:57):
start to see how he interacts with players, and now
he's in the clubhouse, now at the media, what time
he's at the ballpark, what time he's leaving. Oh, and
by the way, between the lines, how he performs. This
kid is a third baseman did in a matter of
twenty days twenty five days, is your starting right fielder
and going to be hitting somewhere in the middle of
your order. So there's just to me, if you're a

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great baseball person, and I understand the analytics and old say,
that's all about what goes on in the classroom. No, no, no,
When it comes to the years and the contract and
saving guys in salary caps and in football and luxury
tax i, get all that when it comes just the
raw of being a baseball player. This dude's one of
your best players already.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Now.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I don't know if the stats are going to bear
that out, but you just talk about what he's done.
He earned the right to be here. They put him
on it probably said well win in no, no, maybe
what damn the heads you have to turn in that
short period of time on a roster that's got some
good players and is used to winning. Think about the

(07:01):
heads you got to turn and the difference you got
to make in all phaser game to not be sent down.
Every single odd other than the fact that he was
cam smith Number one prospect was stacked against him just
because he's new and he's young. Well, they did the
right thing, man, because if he struggles here, he can
go down and get right. Did you think they think
he's mentally tough enough to handle it to no matter what?

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Well, and they've said as much. And you know, to
your point to Jimmy's and Joe's they play baseball too,
They're not just on the football field, And damn right,
and he's he's proven that so far. And I mean
you hear about it all, just his mental makeup, how
he handles himself in the clubhouse you alluded to.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's the at bats that he puts together.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
I mean, I last night, it wasn't on TV, but
I was able to see kind of the pitch track everything.
In his first at bat. I think he worked ten
pitches in that at bat, ended up grounding out into
a fielder's choice. But still, I mean, it's fouling pitches off,
it's laying off pitches close that not a lot of
guys his age have that plate disappoint it and have
that eye already to say, hey, I believe this is

(08:04):
a strike. I don't think it is so all the
way off of that one.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Steve Sparks had said that very thing about him, and
he compared him to the Ordon Alvarez high comparison Steve's
not I I don't think Steve's overly loose with his words,
not hyperboloicy. Yeah, that's exactly right. So yeah, and what
I love about the kid is I think it I
honestly you know how that at all times they and
I'm just getting ahead of myself thinking about big picture,
because we always would the what ifs. You tell me

(08:30):
with his speed in lads, do you want more about it?
You tell me at some point in time, they're not
going to but did in in order he couldn't lead
off for you, big physical guy who with pop pop
you tell me he's not doesn't look like he has
the ability to be a two hitter you see in
a two hole if you need him, I'm not to
mount on this team, but you could. You could stick
him into six hole, five to four, play him at third,

(08:50):
blase payment, right field, d H and whatever you want
to do. He's that guy. He came out of that
box thinking triple. The other night when they got back
to his first appearance in Dyker Park, he came out
there trouble. So there's a veteran aggressiveness to him that
he's not afraid to fail. It just every single step
along the way has been so frigg and impressive. And
you hit it and it you know, how do you perform?

(09:13):
How do you actually perform in those at bats? And
I think you're always looking. I think at that stage
you're looking for a reason. Okay, give me a reason
to make sure he stays down because it'll protect us. Well.
You couldn't find one. You just can't find a reason,
and I just it holds true for me ment and
I say this about football, and I will never change

(09:34):
on this. I don't care your age because I got
to find out now all the toughness. I need to
know as much as I can know about you, just
like you would before you draft a guy. The second
I get you, I need to know everything about you,
what you're going to be like under dress. So I
got to create situations, either on the practice field or
more importantly, in live situations in a game, to put
you in a situation early so I can see how
you handle that's on. I'm not one that wants to

(09:55):
wait seven years to find out what I got. I
want to find out early and then see how he progressed.
If it's not good, how does he progress? That'll tell
me what come mental and physical toughness. If I don't
ever test it, I'll never know. If you don't know
what rock bottom looks like, you ain't been to rock bottom.
If you don't know what the penthouse looks like, you
have either. Most of us hang in the middle of
the ladder trying to climb and we'll up and down
and up and down, but you don't. And it's the
same thing with this with guys like that until I

(10:18):
throw him in there and see how he handles it.
So I'd rather find out early and say, Okay, here's
the things we got to work on, as opposed to
four years into it. It's like, why didn't we know
this three years ago? And you're going to find that
out the major league level. I never I live by
this and I will always if the rookie plays as
well or is better than the veteran, play the rookie

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and I'm just telling you, well, that's yeah, if he is.
But what about in game one forty Well, I didn't
say cut the veteran. I didn't say he didn't couldn't help.
But it's a quarterback. Stroud comes in here in plays
and they got Dave Smells, who was better in training?
Can who's who's the better player? Who can I win with?
As opposed to who can who can I win? Because

(11:05):
of right, it was it was a pretty easy decision
and he proved it on the field. So for me,
it's like and it's not it's not a diss to
the guy that the other players. It's just I always
say when so Sean, well, what the young quarterback if
they put it this way, if or if the veteran's
going to make rookie mistakes and play like a rookie,
play the rookie, I mean, and maybe that wakes up

(11:29):
the veterans, says man, I got to get back to it,
or the veteran wiltson. He wasn't going to help you anyway.
I like I said, I've coaches, I've talked to the
best ones. Any way, you can create duress for your players. Well,
didn't want to carry around stress. But put him in
situations that test their metal. If it's physical, mental emotion,
I don't care what metal it is. When they test it.

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And if you don't know five years into it, then
guess what. That guy hasn't been in enough competition and
we see it happen all the time. And when they
finally do get there, now you're six years invested in
him and not very good. Well, I didn't know he
couldn't handle it. Why because you're a baby in a
batting cage, because you're hitting off a tee. Sure everybody
looks good. Cam Ward's work out yesterday. It looks good.

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He's a hell of a player. Watch the tape he
makes plays on tape. The guy's football player. I don't
care that he can throw a curl route and sprint
into it on an RPO in shorts and a T shirt.
If he misses fifteen of those, now I got a problem.
It's the same day. You find out quickly, and you'll
know quickly. And if my investment's going south quickly, and
I know I'm never going to recover it, guess what

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you do. Guess what smart people do? They get out
by low sell high. It comes with players too.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
I mean, it's in the whole struggle conversation. I mean,
you can't think that way yet exactly right, or you'd
you'd be floundering around. That's a great point, thinking, well,
what if he's negative? What if the negative side is
what you're saying? I mean, And that's the thing, because
you're completely short changing the positive that can be there.
And maybe this guy does come out of the gate
and he's unbelievable and all of those talking points go

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out the window, which is exactly what Astros fans and
of course the organization is hoping is the case.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Jason c.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
You want to get in on Cam Smith and the conversation.
We'll get to you here in just a second. Also
though too, you know you talked about a little bit Sean.
The why for Cam Smith, Well he talked about that
too after he got the news. We'll hear from him
coming up here on the Sean Salisbury show. As we're
getting going here on a western Wednesday, Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Speaker 3 (13:45):
Back to Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Sean Dan Matthews talking about Cam Smith making this team.
Let's start off this morning. Jason wants to wait in
here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Jason, what's going on?

Speaker 7 (13:59):
Good morning?

Speaker 8 (14:00):
Until he is always good to drink coffee and listen
the out sports. I want to get my thoughts on
Cam Smith, and then I have a question for Sean
with Cam Smith. If he does pitting out and Kyle
Tucker doesn't sign with the Cups and Cam Smith actually

(14:21):
becomes great, I think the Cups might regret regret that.
I mean, this guy could honestly have been a better
prospect than that Sean. I'm not saying that he will be.
I'm just saying by the way he's playing now, he
has the potential. And like I'm watching the Space Cowboys
play the Astros yesterday, you know, and normally I'd be

(14:44):
mad the Astros lost, but like knowing now that our
Space Cowboys is actually a good minor league team, and
plus they could possibly well they are defending champs and
they're right. I mean, watching these guys actually play their
hearts out against you know, the major league team we love,

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it was fun to watch. And some of those guys,
you know, could possibly come up as somebody gets hurt,
which I hope that doesn't happen. But I mean, like
yesterday was actually fun watching the Space Cowboys, and the
day before watching our minor league team play our our Astros,
it was it was actually fun to watch. And I

(15:28):
honestly have a question for Sean because and this is
a movie question, because I was.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Watching The Longest Yard and I believe.

Speaker 8 (15:37):
That I saw him in that movie yesterday, and I
was wondering, how did he get an opportunity to like
be in that movie. I was wondering how that happened.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
All right, thank you, Jason, appreciate it. Yes, that was
me on the golf course scene with what's my big
Kevin Nash standing behind us in that group. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Some of the funnest times I've ever had is being
in three Sandler movies and that was the first one.
And how that happened real quick? I was doing pre
Savage I just finished my career playing and Dan Fouts
and I were doing. Dan was a play by play
guy and I was the color commentator for the Chargers
preseason games on TV. I didn't know Sandler, but he
walked in. Must have been on a movie junk and

(16:21):
he loves sports obviously, and Dan, who had just finished
water Boy with him, was in there and he can
now oh yeah, he peeked his head in, right, we know, Yeah,
he had brought That was classic. I just watched it
two nights ago too. It's funny. He said, hey, Dan,
how you doing? And they you know, because he was
on the movie, and Dan just I turned my head
because I was setting down there. It was halftime, getting

(16:42):
ready start second half. I said, hey, nice to meet you.
I love your movie or what, I love your work
or whatever, And turned out it was just five seconds.
And then a couple of years obviously go by, and
I get a call at ESPN at my office at ESPN,
I come back from the Pro Bowl, and I didn't
answer it. That was my buddy's being said, this is
Barry Bernardi from from uh Sony Pictures? Could you please

(17:06):
call back? I thought it was on my friends I
for no reason, because I got somebody. Oh yeah, my guys,
right yeah. Let a week, week and a half go by,
there's another message. So finally I picked them called and
I called and said Sony Pictures. I said, yeah, okay,
because that's where Happy Madison's offices were. I think they're
in the Netflix area now, but they were there on
the Sony lot. So I called and she I said,
this is Sean Salisbury calling for Barry Bernardi. He was

(17:27):
like executive producer or whatever and great guy, and she said, yes,
missus Salisbury. Hang on. So goes rings fand and I'm
still like, I'm not I don't know what are they
calling me for? And so I sat there and you, guys,
Berry is Barry Bernardi Sean, how you doing? It? Took
you a minute to get back and I said, yeah, Berry,
I thought you were one of my friends playing a trick.
What's going on? What can I do for you? And
talk for saying? He goes, well, I don't know if

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you heard we're doing The Longest Yard a remake. I said, yeah,
through the you kind of hear about it. We didn't
think twice. So I said the first one was awesome. Man,
I said, this is going to be a blast, and
knowing that Sandler was involved with it but didn't know
how it was his movie right, and he said, uh yeah,
and we'd like you to come out and train Paul Crewe.

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I said, you mean trained quarterback wise right? He said yeah.
I said why me? He said, well, Adam had seen
you on TV and it heard He'd asked somebody heard
you train quarterbacks and liked your liked your energy, and
that's how it came out, and so I said sure.
I said, I said, uh, oh, by the way, who's
playing Paul Crewe? Because you know Burt Reynolds, tough guy?

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He goes Adam, and I laughed, and I said, you
better have a lot of money if you tell him
betray him quarterback. He goes, here's what he said. Verbaby was, Oh,
don't worry about that. And I'm like, okay, I said,
say I'm listening the scratch. He talked for a few
more minutes. I said, I said yeah, and we stayed
and he laughed and I said, don't tell him. I

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said that. So it led. I went out there about
a week later signed a contract. You walk in there
and there's Spade and there's there's a Schneider there all
walking around in there, and they're cargo shorts. And I
walk in. There's like fifteen people in the meeting. I
looked at my agent, said I this is not my element.
He said, don't worry about and sand Or makes you comfortable, right, yeah,
And he just said we went through it. He because
I just want to be on to throw the ball
forty yards Salisberry. I said, well, we're gonna have to

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do more than that. I mean, and he threw most
of those balls in the movie and just the interaction
with players in the eye black, all that stuff. So
he said, next morning, I show up to his house,
knock on the door. He's in his pajamas with his
wife in her pajamas and mats ball. He said, Salisburry,
come on in and I'm just eating breakfast. I go, no,
I'm okay, I'll wait right here, and they were very kind.
We go throw for about thirty minutes, his arms about
to fall off. And for the next six months we trained.

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And that's how that happened. And then he put me
in the movie with a cameo. And then while that
movie's going on, and he goes, I got another movie.
You're gonna play a gay a baseball coach in benchwarmers.
I said, okay, And then in uh, what's the one
with I even forget the movie the movie name, it's
in the the one with Sweet Home Alabama. What's her name? Oh,
Reese Witherston, Not Reese Witherspoon. It wasn't hurt. Now, what's

(19:58):
the kid the Goofy Blanc comedy chick, Jennifer Coolidge. No,
she's been in a lot like the screen movies. And
she was married to Chris Pratt. Right, who's that? Oh god,
she's like a brilliant Yeah, house money. That's the movie.
I've sat here thinking on it. And then he put
me in that one and stuff and so again. But
other than that. To answer his question, we had a

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blast making the movie. That's how Samler came back, and
then we forged a friendship and he's a great friend
to this day. But more important thing was I said
the same thing that our caller did, like, how'd that
come about? And so when he has yet and he's
so loyal to his group of people, right, one of
the finest men I've ever met. We had to play
basketball every day before we threw, because he loves hoops
and we two on two. We had to, and so

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we did. He'd pull an in turn, he'd pulled one
of the other actors. It didn't matter. And we played
hoops every day on Sony lot and then we'd go throw.
And about six months later we got out there and
he did a hell of a job of playing corner.
He didn't take any of those hits he saw in
the movie. There're twenty five million, thirty million a year
they doing that to him. Yeah, we had We had
a freaking blast, and being in the movie is great.
But just listening to the Ris Rocks and Sam just

(21:01):
how they do the good actors and how they do
their business, you learn a lot about Hurry Up. And
wait in that business, and the respect you have for
having to memorize all their lines that they do. Yeah,
I had some of the funnest times in my life
off the when the camera wasn't rolling and when it
was retakes and remakes. It was a blast, man. So
thanks for asking. But Sandler's everything. If you think he's
a good dude and he's loyal like that, if all

(21:23):
the good things you think about him, double it, That's
that's how good it, dude he is.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Well, we also found out he's your portrayal of Brad
and bench Warmer's at the athlete is actually a three
syllable word.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Oh yeah, exactly. And hey, I do believe that this
day I got snubbed best supporting actor in a comedy,
right I think about it.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
I mean, if Romanowski with the Miata scene, he might
have had you edged out there.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, but I had a little more. I had a
little more camera time speaking time in the movie than he.
And and the fact that I had to get out
of you know, play gay coach. You know that I
had to really get into character acting. And some of
my buddy say, Sean, you didn't even have to act, right,
So I still to this day, Tripoli. I got snubbed, man.
I was thinking, you know, I wanted to go up
there and say, well, so they didn't have to accepting

(22:07):
the award for show up and thank the academy, you know,
and talk until the you know, the little buzzer goes off.
I wanted to thank the academy. I think I got
snubbed and best Supporting Actor in the comedy, right.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
I also realize now that I have to walk around
you with my my arms crossed because of your your
punishment method.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, screw it up. I guess what happened.
That's it. You want to talk about perspective? We found
there was no questioned.

Speaker 7 (22:30):
Brother.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
It's funny. I'll go to a football cap to teach kids.
This is honestly got true. This is the perspective if
you want to be humbled. He's like you, you know,
you play quarterback. You're going to coach football camp and
the kids are looking at you. I address him in
the class, and we're just my expectation. Then we're gonna
have a blast, and you know, we're gonna pay attention
on the board and I'm not gonna embarrass don't laugh
at the guy when he's on the board, and we'll
put you up there, you know, just do the respect,

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and we're gonna this is going to be the group
that leads us all those things. You go in and
say and get them all ready to go, you know,
and sometimes they're looking at you side eyed, right, they're sixteen, seventeen, fifteen,
fourteen years old. And then you'll go through about a
good day can in your football. You know, you get
introduced for quarterback and so and so when they introduced
the coaching staff, and so you're thinking, most of them
have zero idea because I played double the time they did,

(23:16):
hadn't made it to the mother's womb when I was
playing right, So that's not thing or even the broadcasting
part of it. So you think, okay, there's one, there's two.
They don't know you from any of that, not that
you're saying that, but when they introduce you the coaching
staff and the parents may not even know you, so
it's a classic. But then you start to say, they
start to look and all of a sudden, the kittles
start to look again, and then you can hear the whisper,

(23:36):
like when you're addressing them after prep coach, Where have
I seen you? And you want to say, oh, you
mean when I played Oh no no? Oh you mean
you listen written no no? And they, honestly when you
tell them you're Brad on benchwarmers, oh yeah. And I said, okay,
let's if you really want their interest. I should have
said that the very first day with all of them,
because that's their age group that watched it. Right and well,
Helen Zach Dezenzo said what it was? That's where he's

(23:58):
going there, Yeah, gonna go buy Old the Zenzo, he says,
and he's sitting next to me, and I finally realized
that he said, that's one of my favorite movies. And
I'm thinking, either I'm really old, he's way too young,
or this is really cool. You know that he that
that's his movie. But I these kids you want to
talk about. You want to know when you'll get those
the interests of the kid. You're unimportant until they realize

(24:19):
that you were the Brad the Twister guy the movie, right,
And then all of a sudden I become I'm not
even a household name in my own home. But then
it's like, oh, that's the guy that's coaching us. So
I'm like, yeah, so screw up, and I'm just saying
that's to their mothers. But it's the screw up say
to the kid, and we go and then they pay attention.
It's the it's the craziest thing. And I wonder why

(24:40):
it ain't because of me. It's because they think Swardson's
a nut job and Sandler's awesome, and they love the
mallet mannequin that's flying off and hitting the wall, you
know all that stuff. But that's perspective. Well, you don't
know me about anything, don't worry. Nobody else does either.
But you know me as the Twister guy that that
mean gay coach on on Adam Sandler movie bench Forber's
with the with the sporting goods store that had to
make that's exactly right.

Speaker 9 (25:00):
Now.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
I can put some lotion on too in the outfield
pool too. Geezh, what a movie it really was. It
really was.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
It's it's still a timeless classic to this point. Speaking
of dated references too. That's gonna come up in the
show a little bit later because a buddy of mine
had a tweet yesterday that really kind.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Of hurt my heart and I can't wait to hear it.
It's every now and then those will awakened some feelings.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Yeah, they will, absolutely, and especially too it's a local
Houston sports tie. So we'll get into that a little
bit later on John Tim see you guys right there,
we'll work you in. Also, I'll let you hear from
Cam Smith again. We're just getting going here on the
Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Sort of pro painters. Are you a di wire? First off, well,
I think that's awesome. We do. But when you like
to free up a little more time and have somebody
that can come in get it done, do it right
into your X tieror your home or your business, and
you're like, well they didn't break the wallet, the job's perfect,
and I was able to free up to do some
other DIY stuff or actually go watch an Astros game.
They are the official painting partner of the Houston Astros.

(25:57):
Pro painters. Is you get my point? And then when
they do it, it's done right, and it's done efficient,
and they're local and they're timely. They'll even help you
pick out the paint to match. You know, sometimes we
don't know how a paint pops, but when you're in
the business you do. Dale, the boss walk me through
all kinds of paints and brands and said, well, this
one will do this. And you're thinking, now, this is
extra that you don't pay for. How about that it's

(26:19):
sort of pro painters, sortapro dot com for your free estimate,
each and every other one of those sort of pro
businesses individually owned and operated. So there's a sense of
like when you go into your same nail salon, or
when you have your same realtor, or you get your
same haircut, how about the same paint job makes it
look good. But the only thing that's the same about
it is it's always quality, okay, always quality, and they

(26:40):
don't think in quantity. They think in quality. For you,
it's sort of pro painters, sort ofpro dot com, sort
of with the sea, sort of pro painters. That's painting Happy.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
And we're Valor. But the Sean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Calling mom, stepdad, grandma, girlfriend, everybody out to give Cam
the news. Afterwards, Still overcome with emotion, Cam Smith explaining
exactly what his mom being there meant for him.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
And you know, at one point it was just me
and her in the house. She struggled to take me
into baseball games and practice, and I'm just happy to do.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
It for her.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
So the comparison that comes to mind for me right
now Sean before LSU played for the national championship in
twenty nineteen. You know hype video, it's all the programs
do him. I think it's been pretty well documented if
you follow the Rock, which the Rock has a great
relationship with Coacho and in the video the opening line
he has and it is the closer I get to
the top, the more I think about rock Bottom and

(27:40):
the whole point of his narration was all of the
struggles he went through, and it shows the forgotten guys,
you know, Joe Burrow cast aside there at Ohio State,
Clyde Edwards Hilaire told he's too small, all the other
things that it's all of the hardships he went through,
and camp Smith right there talking about it. Of single mom,
I mean, trying to do everything she can to provide

(28:02):
for her son, trying to do her best to get
him the practices, get him the games, everything of the
sort that that to him is his why that's why
you know him getting to this point. And some people
might say, oh man, why be so overcome with emotion.
You spent thirty two days in minor league baseball. That's
not the point. The point is you reached your initial
ultimate goal of your career and got your foot in

(28:23):
the door, and now you're playing major league baseball.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
And that's why those emotions come out. Yeah, I listen, Golik.
I interviewed Mike yesterday on another show and we were
talking about, you know, because his kids played in Notre Dame,
he played at Notre Dame, talking about the goods and
bads what pro athletes focus on. And it's going to
lead to this, but we've talked about it. I said,
what drove you? He guys, well, I never could focus

(28:45):
on the things that went well. I always still think
about things that didn't, you know, And it applies here
when it comes to how you were raised. It's not
the thirty games in minor leagues or forty games or
one hundred games if he played in minor leagues, or
it's not the struggle at spring training. That's the fun
and why your glorifying your talent right and your mother
and the good Lord above. And I think most athletes

(29:06):
I've been around thinking when you asked me what was
a driving force in your life. It's more more than
likely usually going to be a parent, or a teacher
or a coach, right, and the emotion that you go
with it. It's he in my mind, I know what
ha happened to me when I first made my first team.
I'm just trying to compare. It's different him. He's a
top prospect in the organization. But when I left, when

(29:28):
I made it as a rookie is what there wasn't
the destination. And I know it sounds cheesy, but and
it wasn't the fact that really it asks these one thing,
the grind going through two major and neee surgeries. That's
part of the university. It goes all the way back
to when my dad would come home with steel toe
work boots on in Arizona in the middle of the summer.

(29:49):
You don't work, you don't get paid, and it's one
hundred and twenty two and he's going out work in
construction in one hundred and twenty two degrees. You know,
live in paycheck to paycheck, and my mother work and
my dad would come home eat. I'm telling you beat
after school, I may be in the front driveway shooting hoops.
And my dad would come home and we'd get ready
for a pump passing kick competition. My dad had zero business.
My dad should have fell asleep on the couch after

(30:11):
eating and went to bed. At six thirty. He'd take me.
He'd say, come on, boy, let's go to the ball.
Just go to the field. I said, Dad, I didn't
want to go because I had a run. You know,
school's real tough and with your buddy, and he said, no,
we made a commitment to this, and I'm telling you.
We'd trudge over to the Swarow Elementary School and my
dad would bring out the tape measure, you know, the

(30:31):
yellow tape that you'd have, and we'd practice puny and
he'd chase balls around for me for another hour and
a half and then he'd go home and he'd lay down,
get it, get a shower, and about eight thirty he'd
go to bed. So we'd wake up five o'clock four
to thirty the next morning to try and beat some
of the heat. So the reason I say that not
to take this is that I could ask one hundred
different athletes and your parents and then they used your

(30:53):
taxi cab service for them. We'd have hoober right, your lyft,
and then you're the mother. If you're a single mother
at the time, we're the only one living at home
or a single I was fortunate to have to But
even then they're both working. They got it, and you
can't afford babysitter. He can't afford driver because it's your
paycheck to paycheck. So I don't know about their financial situation,
but the feeling of and then when it all comes
to fruition, you know, the first thing you think about.
For me after I made the team and my coach

(31:14):
told me and a couple of players come up and
hug you, is I wonder how my pops will feel
in my mom That's the first thing I thought of.
I can't wait, And they're the first people you call,
and so I get it in the emotion. There's gonna
be some out there. Oh what's the big emotion? Now
you got to go do it. That's all those years
of am I good enough? I don't want to do it.
It's sweat while the people are taking vacation. There's a

(31:35):
sacrifice to be great at anything and to do what
he's doing. This is a step towards greatness. So I
completely understand the wrong and who doesn't want the parents
and the mom walking into the clubhouse while all your
teammates are there. I can tell you what, I don't
care if he hits four hundred for twenty straight years.
When is all is said and done, you know what
he's going to refer to. One of the greatest memories

(31:56):
in his friggin life was that Joe as Spot addressing
the team and his mother. All the other stuff, the destinies,
it's gravy. You'll remember that. I remember those things like
that are fine. I can't remember four touchdown passes in
a game. I mean I know, it's like, oh yeah,
I can sure as hell remember the interception, and I
can sure as he'll remember the grind that my mom

(32:18):
and dad went on, that you drove you crazy when
you were seven or ten or twelve, that you look
back and say, I'm who my mom and dad are,
and good on him. The kid earned it raw emotion.
I'll tell you what. The second here's that crowd when
his name's called, more emotion is gonna kick in. I'm
I don't even know how you swing a bat first time.

(32:39):
You're like, you change to prevent hyperventilation. When you're walking
from the on deck circle to the to the plate.
You know all those things, and I'm telling you they
go through it. Ahman tells a story first Super Bowl.
He everything went normal, everything was normal, night before everything there,
go to the Rose Bowl, his home field right when
he played at UCLA. Wakes up that morning, eats breakfast,
everything's fine, warm ups, everything's fine, gets ready to run

(33:00):
down be introduced during the tunnel, said he started to hyperventilate,
like you couldn't breathe, and here's Klutch Troick and it
was like that's when it hit him. He's in a
super Bowl and it went out. You get hit in
the mouth and you go on and win a Super
Bowl and the rest is history. But he Garant asked
he he remembers that feeling more than the touchdown he
threw in the second quarter of the second or third
Super Bowl. It's a weird thing, the things that trigger it.

(33:23):
Cam Smith will never forget this, and now he'll go
validated as a player. I love the emotion. I think
this kid's got everything you want in a young star.
It's the all I get it now. I mean I've
talked about it before Championship teams. What's one of the
first things when they lift the trophy the microphones put
in front of them. You talk about the conditioning, you
talk about the weightlifting, all of the other things that
at the time your alarm goes off and you know

(33:45):
it's five point thirty running the stadium, you're like, this sucks.
But then it's all right, there's a purpose here. There's
at least a driving force towards what we're trying to
get to. And you know what, that goes back to
Dan and it's true, and I believe it. I'll say
I've said I'll ride for this. I'll say it every day.
I said it yesterday or the day before. Motivations, you're

(34:06):
gonna get that speech. This motivation of this emotion he
went through. It's gonna he'll recall it time and time again.
But guess what, that can't sustain him the feelings when
he's sitting home in the hotel room before a big
game or a four game series, when he gets to
playoff that, yeah, you call on those experiences because that
raw emotion. But motivation is one thing. Now, it's the

(34:28):
discipline to do the things when you were struggling to
get there. At sixteen and seventeen, and here you are.
Now you've got to validate it to yourself. Forgive what
we think, you got to validate it to yourself. And
that's the hard part to sustain great And so it's
not the it is not. The motivation is great, and
temporary motivation is great. In a boxing match. When you
walk it in until the guy hits you in your
frigging mouth and knocks you down three times, you're like,

(34:50):
I didn't expect that. Then you better be a your
works out were workouts and game plan better been a
disciplined So now you've got to respond to that. And
it's going to happen to him. I have a pretty
good gut fee how he's going to respond. I think
just from my vantage point and not knowing anything more
about him. But I can tell you this everything you
want in a young player. The check. He checks every

(35:11):
box and you'll be calling in the motion. But it'll
be the discipline that carries him through, not the motivation
of one moment. This moment is going to mean far
more met yesterday. Now you go play ten years from now,
fifteen years from now, you'll look back and say I
never forgot when coach the spot announced it or skip
a spot I announced at the clubhouse and then mom
and you know, Mom was there of all and it

(35:32):
recalls all those memories and I love it and I
these kind of things are why, well why he plays
for that moment. Forget the walk off home run that
it'll hit at some point. It's going to be great.
But I'll tell you what, Mom not taking him to
the practice field or pops or whatever that is, but
Mom not grinding for him and working and trying to support.
You got no shot Without that, you got no shot.
You're just ann You're an un untapped talent that never

(35:55):
had that support. And he had it and he recognizes
it and he is a special talent. Fact. It just is.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Well, part of the fun is being able to enjoy
the success with others. And that's what Cam Smith has
been able to do so far this point. That's what
he's hoping to be able to do going forward. All right,
coming up next, John, Tim, see you guys right there.
We'll get you in. We'll get into a little bit
more of the Astros conversation here on the Sean Salisbury Show.

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Speaker 6 (37:57):
Let the celebration start on Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
It's a Shawn Salisbury show.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
And we didn't get to meet him, but was right
there and I he put on it and it was
a cozy venue. Man, Oh really, that guess got going.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
On, right?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
He's not Landy Wilson though, Well, who is? I mean no,
I mean you can't at least. I mean he'll go low.
But I don't think he tried to go so deep south.
Voice you you're you're with it up? Oh my god,
it's unbelievable. It plays though, man, it travels like the
good defense. Yeah, first responders say Josh Johnson and Lady Wilson. Well,

(38:38):
my first sponders out there, I love Jesus, we love
you guys too, And I'm gonna introduce Laney Wilson. What
do yeah? He I I don't I think that's her.
I think she dials it down a little bit in
interviews or sometimes because she didn't want to be too
deep south Nashville, wherever, wherever she she Alabama, Missippi. Now

(39:01):
she's northern. She's like, I want to say I got you.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
I want to say northern Louisiana because Louisiana is a
lot like California. I mean it's two different states. You're
you're south of Monroe. I mean that's that's different countries.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
In southern calin northern cal two different brand there's no
doubt and so yeah, but I don't you so you
think she he does too. Brian says that now she
turns it way up for the for the the Down's
house southern girl affect. Right, Yeah, she definitely does. I
don't know. I mean, but I'll tell you what. You
ain't complaining about that voice? Sorry? No? And neither is

(39:38):
Duck Hodges Devin Hodges. Yeah, he's duck duck goose. So
she she loves the quarterbacks. Can you blame her? You
pencil next? You usually you usually get the ladies. Well, listen,
pencil next, ain't nothing about two thirty five or six.
Back of the day was pencil neck, brother, Because if
your pencil deck to that position, that guy named Greg
Lloyd on the outside, they make you pay for it.
So Merton Hanks you are now, Yeah, thank you. And

(40:01):
he was a hell of a player too, great player. Yeah.
But Josh Turner, yeah, you got to see him a concert. Dude.
He's good at that voice, but he doesn't play the
old Southern. He's kinda he's a tweeter, you know, he's
not overly southern. He just does it, but play it.
Smoke him if you got him, and if Laney Wilson
can go. You know what I want to do. I
want to sing a song that the second that like

(40:22):
to say, you sing a song like about a Rolex watch,
or sing a song about Ferraris or something, or sing
as if that's what you're into her, or sing a
song about you know, uh, travel so you can travel.
Because she sings a song about in a four by
four by you And now oh, let's give her a
national commercial and we'll put that song on and I'm
sure she's driving another free forward. Isn't that a great gig? Well,

(40:43):
I mean writing it out, It's like if you like
candy bar, sing something about Neslie's Crunch and maybe you'll
own half a Hershey. I think Hershey owns Nestley's Crunch
or yeah, or or Reese's Peanut butter Cups one one
of those confomerates. Yeah, you know, i'dve're delicious. I'd love
to work in a can't own a candy business like that.
I'd be pretty nice. And it's easy to sell. Hey,
you're a salesperson for Reese's Peanut butter Cup. It's like

(41:03):
being a salesperson for Titleist. Yeah, what do you gotta sell?
You walk in. Who do you represent titleist? Oh put
him on a shelf. Hey, what do you Reese's peanut
butter Cup? Well that was a tough sell. I mean,
good gracious, so you can you can sell it, but
I I, uh, that's what I want. You write a
song and then all of a sudden you put it
out there, and Ford's like, let's let's go pay a

(41:24):
bunch of money before lany top for the king. Damn right,
it did. And if the king wants a vehicle, he's
got to do is ride about and pretty much get
whatever he wants. So it's gonna say, I'm with you, man,
I just I don't know. I just good music, and
in good Southern music. I'm in Josh Turner. Go see
him in concert. That's the moral of this story. It is.
And like I said, he's a huge baseball guy too.
I'm both to me a picture at one point his

(41:45):
arm out of it. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
So that's that's the fun Country music Western Wednesday right
here Sean Salisbury show. All right, John northwest Side get
to you.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Next. We start the seven o'clock hour here Sports Talk seven.

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Saulsbury, Oldberry Salisbury House did okay, let's do this.

Speaker 9 (42:22):
Sean Salisbury, Salisbury, the USC troupe, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury,
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salsbury Show.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
Rockets win last night by seven one twenty one, one
fourteen over the Hawks and Stefan Diggs now in New
England Patriot three year, sixty nine million, twenty six of
that guaranteed.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yeah, I mean, if he plays well, he's gonna get
sixty nine MILI. That's that's that's thirty three MILLI a
year on the average. If he gets to the end
of the contract, he's not old. If he's healthy, he's
the best on their team. It's an upgrade. That's a
that's a I understand why I left. I mean, I
get it.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
That was my that was my initial thought yesterday. As
soon as I saw the money, I was like, no, thanks,
because he's.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Not thinking it's just twenty some million guaranteed, twenty six
twenty eight million guaranteed. He's thinking that's sixty nine million.
I'm going to get I got this only three years.
I can blink and be three or sixty nine million.
Because the Patriots need and they need a veteran receiver
with a young quarterback who's a who is a budding star.
Drake May's got some game right, And now you get
Vrabel there who understands that that whole culture they have

(43:35):
and understands the importance of veterans. Remember when he was
in Tennessee and they got rid of AJ Brown and
they have not been the same throwing in the football
since they got rid of some of those perimeter players. Well,
I would imagine Mike going out and get this, thinks
this is a pretty good gig for them, this late
in free agency, to still go get him and pay
him almost thirty million guaranteed. This is a This is

(43:57):
a healthy get for New England. Now, Dowing a long
way away, but they're started right because Mike Rabel can coach. Well.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
It's also he wasn't even here for a year. But
you talked about the culture boost that I mean, at
least that's what you came here, captain, right, I mean,
that's that's what you kept hearing out of the guys.
Is what he already means in that building for only
being there a handful of months, and then he gets
the ac always done for the year. So I mean
that part of it I understand. But I mean, when
you see that kind of scratch being thrown around, if
you're Nick Cassario, I ain't mad at you. If that's

(44:26):
the case, if you balked at that, I'm saying, that.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Would have been an overpay, right Jay, it would. I
mean as much I like Stefon Diggs that that's an overpay,
And quite frankly, that may be very well be the
reason they didn't get anywhere near that, right, I wouldn't think.
But which leads to, do you bitches know tomorrow's opening day?
Oh yeah?

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Do you know this?

Speaker 8 (44:45):
Bitch?

Speaker 1 (44:45):
I've heard this. Do you know they realized tomorrow like
three ten or three through whatever the time is the
metter here, the season opens. I've been knowing this. And
and Cameron Smith's going to be starting to right field.
You know that for a fact he is going to
be out there. Camp's Smith, as we mentioned, making the
opening day roster. John on the northwest side wants to
get in on him. John, what's up, Hey, guys?

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Good morning.

Speaker 11 (45:07):
Yeah, the Cam Smith thing, I mean, what an inspiration,
what a story this is evolving to be, and and
what an inspiration it is to uh everyone in Houston,
and even as teammates. You know, I've watched, like even
this morning, I've watched replays of where his mom was
in the locker room, and you know, everybody's breaking down.
It's hard to keep a dry eye when you watch this.

(45:29):
I mean absolutely, it's it's very inspirational. And I'm glad
to see that the Astros uh, as you know, Sean,
I was. I was happy that they traded UH Tucker
and they brought in Cam Smith and and they and
they and they got one with the young talent because
the farm system has always been underrated. And I think
I think that, you know, there's nobody better. There's no

(45:51):
sports organization I think better than the Astros that player development,
and I think that's always been the secret and the strength.
And I I, you know, and I've you know, I've
been calling in a lot on this where I want
them to go back to the way they did it,
where they did, you know, the old fashioned scouting and
hoarding young talent, championships caliber talent and UH just.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
Developing their players. And I think that's what's.

Speaker 11 (46:17):
Worked for them, that's what one of them two uh
world series, and I think that that that's what they
got to do to return to greatness. And and you know,
Cam Smith is just what a incredible story. And I think,
you know, I think there's gonna be some other people,
you know, like in the Space Cowboys, you know, in
the in the minor organization that are going to be
coming up and and uh you know, becoming known as well.

(46:40):
So it's I think it's very positive all over for
the Astros and for Houston. So it's it's just a
great thing that's happening. And and I can't get enough
of it. I watched this that replay probably half a
dozen times, you know where you know, his mom's in
the locker room, and it's just it's just a moment
that everybody just you know, it's hard, not that you're up,
it just isn't. And so anyways, I'm just glad how

(47:03):
all this is happening, and I look forward to, you know,
a very good season and and we'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
So I appreciate the call John, you know, some point
something that he brought up there. It kind of is
the light at the end of the tunnel. And Here's
where I'm going with this. All off season, it's been
the talk of is the window closed? Is it closing?
Is is this coming to an end where ALCS is
World Series? You're gonna have to wait a little bit

(47:31):
longer for that to be the case. Again, it's not
just a year in, year out thing because Tucker's gone,
Bregman's gone, Sean. This is rejuvenation, Like, that's that's what
this is. This is This is a shot in the
arm for the organization. It's a shot in the arm
for the fan base because I mean, imagine how many
people head out to Dyke and Park tomorrow that are
gonna be making a b line for the center Field
store wanting to find that number eleven Jersey and wanting

(47:54):
to go ahead.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
And get that. Yeah, and you know it, sometimes veterans
need because they're felt like this is you know, when
the bread the bread and it starts to get a
little stale, but it's still eatable. He said, I can
I got one more day with this? It makes goods. Yeah,
and I and I don't mean it that they have
good players, but I think that there's a depression is

(48:17):
not the right word, A little a little downer. Yeah,
you know, Bregman's gone, Tucker gets traded, there's ifs well,
if camp Smith's player. I'm talking about when this first happened,
Oh my gosh, we can't afford When are we ever
gonna when are we gonna pay guys like that? And uh,
now Bregman's gone, paradus is here? Can we still keep
all the things? You go through? I think, and then
you start to saying, well, we got it a second

(48:38):
basement playing left field. We've got a centerfielder is great
on defense, doesn't hit well, what's who's McCormick. Uh, And
you start and then you start to go through. It's
like it kind of sits in. It's like it's a
bit when I say, it's a bit of a the
come down from a red bull. You know, when you
come down, you're like, oh gosh, I'm trying now I
need an app right, but this kid's the five hour
energy man, And I'm telling you veterans need it. So

(49:01):
you don't know where the infeus of that that drip
comes from.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
You just don't.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
And then all of a sudden somebody comes up, and
it can be a veteran, it can be somebody. But
Michael Brantley coming back for another year when he's you
know whatever it is that you say, there's a spark
here going and getting Verlander on a trade sel, we
get this kind of guy. Something happens, not only the
production but just whatever that is. And I know we don't.
We can't bottle it up because if we did, we'd
all be rich. But there's just sometimes you need and

(49:29):
you feed off. And in the truth of the matter,
is the most exciting thing going into this season right now,
aside from its baseball and we love Opening Day, is
this kid in right field. He has added a sense
of that that's an extra shot in my coffee.

Speaker 8 (49:45):
Man.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
I got to go see this kid play, and that's
a good thing. And what it does is it should
and in a really and not a hands on microway
by the kid, it should make people better. It should
be should make the guy who wants the job chas
McCormick hopefully makes him better, right it Dida Zach Decenzel

(50:06):
of all this, Zach Decendeo's the other young guy who
kind of get like, oh, by the way, right, and
we were talking about him and ty Regard. Let I mean,
so Decenzel can kind of settle in and do his
thing because right field's got the focus. And if this
kid's as good as advertising plays like you did in
spring training, there's only going to be more pub to it.
So this energy you can get stale, like, oh, here
we go again. It's another season. Not that the players

(50:28):
think that, but we all have that. I think there
was a lot of ifs of how we're going to
respond to all this with the players, and I'll be
damned if now they got to go perform. But going
into a season, I'm telling you this is one of
you know, late life on a fastball. This is late
life for a team's energy that hits you. You're like, damn,
I took that five hour energy three hours ago. Why

(50:49):
is it kicking in now? That's what this is, and
then you're hoping to sustain it. But I I, for one,
the thing I'm most excited about is his first to
the batter's box in the opening day. I know Fromer's
gonna throw strikes. I believe so, and I know that
al Tuov and I think we all like, well, can't
wait till the first ball line drive hit at al tuove,
How's he gonna respond all those things? But for me,

(51:11):
the I the energy in the ballpark and the energy
through your TV is going to be pretty It's going
to be palpable. I mean that's what I said.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
You know, obviously, with it being an opening day, you're
gonna have the full line introductions. And I think when
Bob Ford says number eleven Cam Smith, as soon as
you hear that, there is going to be a loud roar.
And I mean it's to the butts and seats comparison
that you just brought up right there is I mean
we it's not to say that we take them for granted,
but nobody out there is saying, oh, I gotta go

(51:42):
see jose al twov. Now, nobody out there at this
point is saying, oh your don Alvarez. This reminds me
you brought up the Verlander example. I mean, you had
Dallas Kaikold that year outwardly calling out the GM of saying, hey,
don't we have something here, like aren't we supposed to
go for this? Like aren't we supposed to make that deal?
And I think there are probably a little guns out
with the Carlos Gomez deal a couple of years before.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
So simple. They made it right and right, and that
was a that is a staple moment in the team's history.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
They don't win the World Series without him, right, because
you don't win Game six of the ALCS you don't
have him coming back out into the dugout. I mean,
I'm not saying that that's why Marwin Gonzalez hit the
home running Game two, but I mean still, he was
a guy that he changed the mindset in that.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Clubhouse, right, and teams that go through that one guy
that comes through there. When Atlanta went through I've mentioned
with Acuna, when Bryce Harper get told well, when Soda
went to Washington and Harper was in When Harper, just
as a veteran, was infused into Philadelphia. I mean just
there's just I don't know where the energy comes from.
And in a young player. It's nice that it's this

(52:44):
kid's not in Boston or with the Dodgers. Right. Oh,
another guy in one of those great in l A. Yeah,
he's somewhere else. He's not here, right, he's here. Now,
that's that that that is, that's that guy. Now, that
guy's got to go do it. But I'm gonna tell
you something, Like I said, no, there is no the
reward is even far bigger than the risk. What's the

(53:06):
risk he has to go down and break again in
triple A and see pitches. I don't even think like that.
My thought process is he's never seen Sugarland again unless
he has to go to a rehab because he pulled
a hammy, which hopefully won't happen. So I and like
I said, I'm not putting him in the Hall of Fame.
Hell I already know that at some point this year
we're gonna say, damn, maybe you need to day off.
Of course, he's going through that's for sure. He is. Sure.

(53:29):
It takes to play one hundred and sixty two games
and think about miners. But in college, when those guys
come like schemes, it's amazing how successful he is. You
play all those games and then you jump right to
it and you're playing in major leagues a few months later.
I'm talking about just the grind itself. I'm not talking
about the personal flights you're flying. I'm not saying, but
you're playing here and then you're going through a losing

(53:50):
streaking it's like and we all heighten things make it
worse when we all do, oh my gosh, the end
of the world. I'm oh for eight and I struck
out four times. Well, of course, so how do you
to play your way out of that and not let
it fester. It's like great teams and great players, they
don't stay in a place too long, the good place.
They may stay there and go on a streak, but
their mind's not living there. They're actually still grinding like

(54:11):
they're Oer for twelve. And I think that it thinks.
I feel like this kid's got that grind in him,
which is a good When you put grind with talent, dude,
it is an opportunity to forget it. It's beautiful comedytion.
Got that guy here now, pretty good way to start
the major league season. And I'm telling you right now
he'll be the most talked about guy in the ballpark tomorrow.

(54:32):
Raises the excitement, no doubt about. It's all right.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Coming up next, We're gonna feel nostalgia, the feeling old
that goes with that, and also maybe a little bit
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one fourteen over the Hawks, you of aged sweet sixteen,
coming up Friday in Indie against Purdue.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Hey, where's that Hawk to a chick? You said? Hogs?
But where's that Hawks to a chick?

Speaker 12 (57:06):
At?

Speaker 1 (57:06):
I have no clue hiding where'd she go paid. She
was a one pitch pitcher, so.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
I mean once the league, Yeah, once the league caught
up to her, it was kind of like, all right,
what else do you got?

Speaker 1 (57:17):
So she was like kind of like bad Baby cash outside.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Yeah, although I mean I think she has a fledgling
rap career, bad baby does. But it's just like, you know, what,
what what else do you have other than going on
Doctor Phil and being a redneck?

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Because when you said hog like hog, I was thinking
hog toa or hawk toa. Yeah, I just I just
wanted we always like to check in with some of
our peeps.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
She had.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
She had a little bit of a thing going like
what was it the kid that had the hair that
they caught in the stands during the Texas Georgia game
last year. Yeah, yeah, they caught up with him and
he he had thrown out a shout out of wanting
to go on our podcast.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
So people are like, oh, he's calling his shot. He's
he's he's shooting his shot, wouldn't you Well, I mean,
you know, when you when you got the chance, you
got the fifteen minutes, knock it down, you only have
won the fifteen So yeah, so I just wondered if
you had any extra insight on Hawk too. I have
no clue. We'll get to that during the break.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
We'll get with the research team, all right, the crack
research team. We'll be putting our heads together for that.
All right, you got something for me here that I
don't know. This is a surprise. This is a surprise,
and it's also to one that I think is in
the wheelhouse. So my buddy Will Moriari used to work
here in the Houston markets and he had this tweet yesterday.

(58:29):
Just explain to a lifelong Houstonian, twenty something gen zer
who Rudy t is see you guys at the AAARP meetings.
Now I understand that too is people immediately the rational types,
might you know, stop me right there, Sean and say, well, Dan,
I mean, the kid wasn't even born yet. It was
the mid nineties. I mean again, not even thought of

(58:51):
at that point. But if you're a lifelong Houstonian and
it sounds like this kid probably a Rockets fan, shouldn't
you know the key figure, or at less one of
the key figures of the best times this organization has
ever had. Like growing up here, I never really watched
say Jose Cruz, I wasn't born yet. I heard about him.

(59:11):
I knew about I saw the highlights all of those things.
But if somebody you know says to me Jose Cruz,
I know because people, of course you know, have gone
to games, they've still chanted all of those different things.
Earl Campbell, same deal. I wasn't born yet.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
I got news for you, though it's yeah, I'm with you. See,
I don't the age thing you can't use. I've always
said this. If you're twenty five and you don't know
who led Zeppelin is, but you tell me you love music,
you don't really love music. Because I always believe if
you want to consider whether we call it expertise or
deep knowledge in a subject, if you don't know the
history of it, you ain't it then, and it's it's

(59:47):
only a decade worth then that that compartmentalized doesn't work.
And when they say well I wasn't born, well I
wasn't born when when Lou Garrett played, Sure you're a
sports fan, you know Lou Garrett is. And it's like
I've never been able to understand why somebody who grows
up around the ball all the time, and then you
see a grown adult throat. They can't throw five yards

(01:00:07):
to their I've never understood it. It's just watch we see.
I'm not saying he had to be a great athlete.
I just don't get the concept of how you're athletic there,
but you can't pick up a ball and throw it
six yards and you push it like a shot. But
I just never understood the concept, right, And maybe it's
different for others, but on any subject, and when it
comes to sports, and you're hitting it right on if

(01:00:29):
you watch basketball in this town for two reasons, not
just as a coach was a player. Rudy tom Jonovich. Hell,
even if you remember in a harsh way what happened
with the fight with you know, which was a brutal
I'll never forget it. And then Rudy overcame that was
a great player and a great head coach and a
winning head coach and a championship head coach. So yeah,
I've just never understood the excuse of well, they weren't

(01:00:50):
born yet. I wasn't born when when Jackie Robinson was playing,
but we know who Jackie Robinson is. Larry Bird was
a little bit before my time, but you know, it
is just like if you're living, aw, it's no excuse
for me not to say, well, do you know who
whoever the newest rapper on the block is right, or
whoever the newest subject Hudson Westbrookdale, you know what I'm saying,

(01:01:11):
or any of them, at least you know who they are.
You may not love their music, but I do know
who these people are or what their genre is, because
why well, if you like music, you're going to listen
to say oh man, I'd like that, or I don't
like it. So I've always thought, well, he wasn't born yet.
Well if you're a history major. What if you're in an
academia and your history major say yeah, I know about
history from two thousand to two twenty four or two

(01:01:33):
twenty five, Well then you really don't know history, right,
you know, you know, history favored to what kicks into
your time zone in your area and the age. So
I've just never if I, like I said, if I
want to know about food, I want to know what
they served in the seventies, or I want to know
what they're serving now. I mean, I wasn't eating sushi
in nineteen seventy, I mean, and now so I just

(01:01:55):
and now, if you just hate basketball and you don't
watch it, okay, then I get it. But if you
claim you're a sports fan or a music fan or
a movie fan and you don't know who Jack Nicholson is,
then that I'm like, I'll give you you got you're
you're worthy of a hard time. It's not then to
feel sorry for it, right, It's not a big deal.
I just kind of think you're missing out if you

(01:02:16):
don't know certain movies or certain music like Man, you
might enjoy it, and if you hate it, you hate it,
but at least listen to it. That's me. I'm gonna
give everything a try, right at least most because I'm
gonna give a try so and I like to give people.
It's really not that big a deal if somebody doesn't
know who Rudy Tom Johnavians is. I've coached quarterbacks and
went in there and went back to like two thousand
and I asked one time if they kne who Johnny

(01:02:37):
Uniteds was his not? One kid raised his hand, then
one kind of did he goes He got wore the
high tops and that had the crew cut. I said,
points points for the effort. I even asked, I said,
you guys know who Marcus Allen is. Dude, this was
four years ago. They had no idea. The only reason
I said him is because he's hell in nineteen eighties,
a Heisman Trophy winner and a Hall of Famer. You're

(01:02:59):
a foot Yeah. If I would have said do they
know who? I could have given him any a national
geno Terretta won the Heisman Trophy. They would have had
no idea.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
And he says, right, it's like saying, you're a comedy
fan and you know you mentioned Rodney Dangerfield to someone.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Yeah, and you don't know. You don't know Richard Pryor
is That's my point? Now, you see what I'm saying
is that if you're gonna tell me about it, then
tell me about it. But it's all in good fun.
If nobody doesn't know Rudy to don if it's not
the big deal, but it makes a good banter like this,
so we can rip him the shreds just for fun.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
Well, it's also I mean, you know, for Hachem Elijah One,
I mean, as a kid, I didn't necessarily appreciate the
athleticism he had. But then you go back, now, if
you go back and watch those videos and you're like, holy, like,
how did you like guard this guy?

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Yeah? Right? And then you think about, well he had
he had the feet of a point guard. I mean
he really nobody Nobody's feet around the basket and the
history of this game are better than him, nobody. And
Elijah One is athleticism. Dude was a goalie in soccer, right, Yeah,
that guy's a freak. And and go talk to the
Jordan's of the world and ask who they want on

(01:04:05):
their first team. They're their top ten players. He ain't
leaving the dream shake out of it, I can tell
you that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
And that's the funny thing is that's like the age
old debate now Jordan or Lebron. And of course the
younger guard are gonna say Lebron, which I can't blame him.
They didn't watch Jordan.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
But again, but for guys, you're gonna tell me the best, yeah,
go watch him, Then go watch Jordan. That's all I'm saying.
If you're gonna tell me the best center ever Shaquille O'Neal,
then you didn't watch Abdul Jabbar. Now you can still
have your opinion after you watch both, but it's hard
for me to give you credence on an opinion if
you say, well, I didn't watch Jordan, I only know Lebron.

(01:04:39):
But then how can you make the comparison, Just like
I can't compare Willie Mays to Mike Trout. I didn't
see Willie Mays live, but I watched him play. I
can only go by what I say in highlights. And
yet I think I'm taking Willie Mays first of all
time center fielders. I think Willie Mays may be the
best player of all time period all around. So yeah, man,
if you're no common many than you know prior, right,

(01:05:01):
it's just for me. It's just it's a it's a
little different, and I I'm just fast. I think you
miss out on a lot of good stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
We have to do a better job of learning our
youth something that's that's what it is. I mean, proper
English there intended, But we have to do a better
job of teaching the kids.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
And I'm not sure the kids care. No, it makes
for good, it makes for good banter.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
A chem Olijauan's at the galleria or some Instagram influencers there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
The Instagram influencer the only reason Elijahan is because he's tall.
They'd say, oh, that guy's tall. Guy. I wouldn't know.
But back to the Lebron Jordan thinking, if you saw
both and you like to love Lebron more, that's cool.
I know where I'm starting, and I know I'm not
getting through ten players without Elijah On being on my
team if I'm trying to win a title.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Hey, Lebron did not help us survive the COVID pandemic.
Michael Jordan did, so we've got that going for us,
all right, Sean, don't lower the heart rate just yet,
because coming up next, never I think I'm gonna be
able to keep the heart rate right where it is,
relaxed but fired up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
That's sh that's it. That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
Somebody on the same wavelength with you. We're gonna hear
from them next right here Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
But the Sewn Salisbury Show continued. It's gonna raise. Am
I going to agree with the guy that I think
you're gonna play? Possibly? Possibly?

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
But we were talking about you know you're you're doing
the Lady Wilson thing earlier. It's it's the way that
people do concerts. I've never seen Clint and a show.
But like you know, you go see the King, you
go see George straight, what's one thing you can always
count on, Well, the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
King's gonna show up. Well, of course that. But the
King's gonna have the guitar. It's gonna stay right there
the entire time. He's never gonna put it down. He's
not dancing. He's not dancing. He doesn't need to though.
The King, he'll talk to you a little bit, but
he won't talk to you long.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Like Jay Moore, the comedian has a bit of talking
about you know, why why are.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Not a soliloquy when he's in between cuts now? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
Yeah, like why why why are Springsteen shows four hours long?
Because he talks to you for three and a half hours.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Of it, right, you know? Yeah, that's not the King.
I wrote this and my dad told me to cut
my hair. That's what this song's about. Yeah, we all
can relate to that. Yeah, and then and then give
us some music. No, yeah, well, George and you could
put a hula hoop on the ground. He ain't going
outside that hoo.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
The longest somewhat soliloquy you're gonna get is introducing the
aast and the whole band.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Oh, that's pretty much what you're gonna get, no doubt.
So he's the king for a reason. We love him.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
Some people are a huge fan of tom Izzo, and
I think, uh, here is Well. I was gonna say,
you're you're one of those guys. Well, we talked about
a little bit yesterday. The transfer portal is open in
college basketball, and that's kind of one of the storylines
that's dominating this time of the year. Well, Izzo was
asked yesterday about that very thing. He went on speaking
of soliloquy. It's about a five minute one, but we

(01:07:52):
took about thirty seconds of it. And Sean, let's just say,
I think you're gonna be a.

Speaker 13 (01:07:56):
Fan, but what my team's done has been incredible and
I'm not ready to move on. So jud I've followed
what you said. You know, I'm gonna worry today. But
the guys I got in this program that have done
an incredible job this year, and that's it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:15):
And if that costs me later, so be it.

Speaker 13 (01:08:19):
But Tomzo isn't cheating the people that he has that
have been loyal to him for this chaos that is
going on out there. I don't sleep right now, So
why the hell would I do something else that might
benefit me a year from now and waste of time.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
He is not only sitting in the same church, We're
in the same church for you, holding the same hymn
book together. That's not old school, old head boomer stuff.
That's smart dedication to the program. And it'd be nice
if if players matched to that passion for the program.
I'm just sure it his And he went on to say,

(01:08:59):
I don't even know how much money we got right
now for this portal. I don't even know where where
my players are going. Now think about that, you're a
final four potential team. He's got him in a sixteen.
We know who tom Izzo is and what he does
in tournaments like this in March madness, and you're sitting
there right now staring at it like damn, we got it.
And his dedication is all and only to the program

(01:09:21):
there and so why would he and if it cost
him three years down the right, so what can you
imagine what message it sends if you're sitting there recruiting
on the side and you can't get your sale ready.
I mean, he's got his team and this is he's
doing exactly what you're supposed to do. He's in the moment,
and as a coach, if you're not in the moment,
you're not winning. Now I be a forward thinker. Can't

(01:09:41):
you do both? He already said he doesn't sleep at
night thinking about this team. Doesn't he owe it to them?
Because if he did the same things that piss you
off Vanderbilt player thirteen minutes after the loss has transferred,
If he's not all in, how can you expect your
players to be all in? And how can you expect
a player if you're recruiting somebody else because you want
to grab him in the portal? Why you're in the

(01:10:02):
sweet sixteen getting prepared to play another team and you're
doing that, aren't you just like the guy who's got
one foot out the door, who is going to transfer
when the season's over. Anyway, this is exactly how you
should think. The portal should not be opened during March madness,
and this is how all coaches should think. These are
my guys. In a week, we may I'm gonna have

(01:10:22):
to think different. Somebody may leave. There may be a
guy available wants to come here. I get it. But
today I got this team to focus on In the
moment and play in the moment, and good coaches preach you,
you know, the proper preparation that you got to put
in to prevent piss poort performance, all that. But when
you're playing, if you're not in the moment, dude, at
any sport, it's a bad it doesn't end well for you.

(01:10:43):
That's another way of saying, take it one play at
a time. It's not cliche. I'm in this moment and
you want to be intentional, and Tom is those intentional
with this team, not with some star that may have
transferred to say we got to get him now before
somebody else jumps on him. Well, even if you wanted
him and somebody offers a million more, you're screwed anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
And that's the point that he made, is he said,
there's not a lot of recruiting that happens with it.
It's basically, what do you have? What are you offering?

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Yeah, it's not legacy or how many of your family
members played there or went there. It's simply well, they're
offering me two men, Well we only got one point five.
That's okay, thanks, I'll go to a school and then
we'll let Michigan State will kick your ass anyway. So
and his reference to Judd so people know is jud Heathcote,
who was, you know, coach Magic Johnson was a longtime
Michigan State Hall of Fame legend who obviously when he

(01:11:30):
turned it over. And Tom Misso's had this job forever,
a mentor in such that he took over. And he's
referring to jud heat.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
And he even talked about a lesson that jud had
given him about, you know how gung ho he was
on the recruiting trail everything jud goes.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
What good is that is?

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
You're not staying here developing these guys and having them
believe in you. Like I understand, you know, you have
to recruit. Everybody knows that. It's the lifeblood of that business.
But it's also to his point of if I'm out
there trying to get the next hotshot guy that might
transfer in from Temple or wherever, then you leave your
time in a place to.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Go get that guy. Right, this is the focus. It's
like it's you know, if just mow your own grass, Yeah,
you mow your own grass. The other grass you know,
you hope will be there. But I hate to say this,
we get to the point where I think, well, you
can't live without a player, Sure you can. And if
the guy was willing to go somewhere else for more money,
it really wasn't that big a deal. Anyway. You got

(01:12:23):
to go find and develop players. If you're a player
and you're not mowing your own grass, why in the world,
as a player would you think, well, I'm not all
in if he's not. Yeah, even if they're not all
in Fulham. Now if you can't dazzle them with brilliance,
baffle him with bs to keep players around, but you
have to. You just have to do it. And you
can't be all in in two places at once. And
recruit is important. But recruit's important when it's important, and

(01:12:47):
it's not more important than the guys you got there
that sacrifice and busted their ass and got showed on
their ass endlessly. I guarantee it by coach ize the
right way, and here we are. Now he owes it
to them just like they know it to him. And
now in season over, then you jump in and see
who's going, who's coming, who's having money, who doesn't. But
I the it's like you go to a party. You
have been to your party, when you meet somebody important,

(01:13:09):
but they're the important guy that don't think you're have
anything for them. They're shaking when they shake your hand,
their eyes dirt over your shoulders, looking around support the
coaches that do that to me, you might as well
tell me that they're then they're telling every other guy
the exact same thing they're telling me. I don't want
that coach, I don't think is those eyes go past

(01:13:30):
his team right now, and I think that's a wise move.
And he said if it backfires on me and I
miss a recruit because of it, basically, Oh, well, you
think they're gonna fill up a roster in Michigan State
next year? Yeah, regardless of when he starts recruiting. Amen.
Just like always, don't deviate from your commitment to the
guys that are actually there. It's like when a coaching
the guy's hurt, I love you, Are you out for

(01:13:52):
the season or you're transferring. I'm not here coming. I'm
coaching the dudes that are on time or showing up
or a holdout. I still care about you. I do.
I care about you, but you know I'm coaching the
guys that are here. Yeah, you're coach, just say it
all the time. I got to worry about the guys
I got. You're in a contract negotiation, Oh, holding out
of camp. Great. The guy who's your position, I'm coaching
him is hard. I'm coaching him like he's going to

(01:14:13):
be my starter, because guess what if you don't come
back and I don't coach him, I did him at
the service. Tom Izzo's got it right. We should get
more coaches with the same thought process.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
It's almost like what Kenny Rodgers said, never count your
money at the table.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Do you ever Counryny? You don't do you?

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
No, That's that's the surest way you're gonna lose. You
jinxed yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
There's time enough for counting when the dealing's done. There
you go and that what you're telling you. You go
to the cage.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
Yeah, you want to make sure you're carrying one of
those trades because if you've got one of those trays
and that means a lot of scratches coming back to you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Oh yeah, if you're handing a tray and the not
just palmming them up, that that that's big coin or
or the dealer here.

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
Let me change you out, Let me give you some
of these, you know, chips that have more value on them.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
And then on the way out the way, I toss
the sea. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
They they always throw it in the buckets, always looking
out for the dealers, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
In a bucket. We're gonna have her play, is that,
Sarah Evans?

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
We could?

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
I guess, I guess, Tripley. We're turning out all the cuts, Tripley.
That's our Quincy Jones, God rest his soul. He's the best.
There you go, it's the best for a reason. Oh
that sounded kind of racist, didn't it.

Speaker 8 (01:15:15):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Did it sound triple No quince a legend should said
that had had to be racist. Your foot might have
been on the line for a three or two. Well,
what if I'd have said, Hey, your son like David Foster,
who's another David Foster? Tripley looks nothing like Dave Foster.
Do my knowledge, triple He is not white? Okay, he's

(01:15:37):
not whitey like you and I two average white guys,
two basic white guys. May might be it might even
less than basic. Hey, you asked AI to draw you
a picture. It's me whoa speak for yourself? Definitely means
but triplely. I think it's a high complex. The q Dog.
I just compared him to the que dog Quincy John End.
That's a legend for a legend. There you go, there

(01:15:58):
you go, there you go. All right.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
Coming up next is UH already had a disadvantage before
they play on Friday night. We'll discuss that al Conrod
James get you guys. In Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
The Jong Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
One of the storylines that is dominating this week. I mean,
the transfer portal is one. But Joseph d'Arte through this
out a couple of days ago covers you of Ah,
he's great, He's great. Joseph is the best distances between
the four sweet sixteen schools making their way to Lucas
Oil Stadium in Indianapolis. Well, funny enough, four through one

(01:16:38):
is the further out you got. The further up towards one,
you get the further out to distances. Get Purdue sixty
five point one miles away, Kentucky one hundred and eighty
nine point two miles away, Tennessee three hundred and eighty
miles away, and in UH is ten hundred and fifteen
miles away from Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Over one thousand. That'd be the Well, that's like because
I made the drive a bunch of times. That's driving
here to Scottsdale. Okay, that's what right right at about
eleven hundred miles. So that's what the fifteen to sixteen
hours you're going straight shot. Yeah, so you probably say
sixteen said, you know, depending on how long you stop.
And if you see Bucky's on the way, then I've
caught that for an hour. Yeah, but yeah, sixteen hours,

(01:17:20):
that's the distance. And they're the one seed.

Speaker 10 (01:17:22):
Hmm.

Speaker 12 (01:17:23):
Some wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Is that the picture Joseph paint?

Speaker 14 (01:17:25):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
That is the picture backwards?

Speaker 7 (01:17:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
And he he's also getting some backup from Pat forty.
Houston will go to India as the number one seed.
Three lower seeds that are much closer geographically, and will
inhale tickets. Tough situation for the Cougars. I mean, let's
call it what it is. Friday night against Purdue is
going to be a home game. The floor might as
well have the black and gold pee with Purdue on
one side and boiler Makers on the other end.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
Jean Katie standing right in near Painter or the head
coach and offering advice even though he wouldn't be getting
that point. Yeah, Geane wears a hat now, I saw
him because you know the comb over. You can't get
a little older in age foot a friggin' a legend
he is, Yes, But I can tell you this about
the way I feel if i'm and I think we
know how coach Sampson approaches his team. There are certain things.

(01:18:10):
I'm not a big you know, bulletin board material. You
know you put it on the bulletin board. Sometimes somebody
will say it right, well, you saw didn't. Wasn't there
a national broadcaster who laughed at old Miss? And I
can't remember who it was, somebody and I think Chris
Beard's first comment it was it was it Chris? Was
it Ole Miss? That he was saiding about frauds? Yeah,

(01:18:31):
And he went in there say he asked where the
guy was right that he wasn't around to celebrate the victory.
It's the same thing here. There are certain things you
can use as motivation post motivation. But the truth is is,
you know, if it doesn't matter what everybody's saying or
where the venue is a crowd, you can take the
crowd out of it if you carry that in and
don't validate that you're just the better team. And if

(01:18:53):
you are a team that's riding home, you know how
you you beat a home team. You punch him in
the facing right off the bat. And the one thing,
and I don't mean literally, folks will relax, but the
thing this team brings is a is a They are
vicious in a good way, in a good basketball way
because of the way they played defense. Kelvin's team I'm
talking about. Is it a disadvantage and unfit, Yeah, but

(01:19:14):
unfortunately it's the way they didn't know going in Purdue
was going to be here. I think you could have
anticipated Tennessee or Houston getting there, right and possibly Kentucky.
Purdue's goodes. Don't misunderstand me, but I don't think you thought, well,
it could be a home game for them, So let's
make sure the path is easy. Sometimes the luck of
the drug, it's a bummer the way it turns out.
But I can tell you this that teams like Kelvin Sampson,

(01:19:37):
you put it, you go the other way and say
this is perfect for us. Well, how many nice against
the world, let's go do our thing. How many raucous
atmospheres they play in and win in this year. That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
They went to Kansas and won. Now we didn't know
at the time that Kansas would turn out to be
what they were Tech Arizona, I mean, Iowa States.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
This will be nothing new for them, although you'd love
it if was you know, played right here. Sure that
you know, playing at a Toyota Center or something, you know,
you don't have that. So what you do is you
go in and some teams in some places I've been
love road cooking, dude, meaning they love going and you
you know you're gonna be a Purdue Listen. It's just
it's just the way it goes. But the truth the

(01:20:19):
matter is Purdue ain't winning just because it's closer to
their university. Because you get popped in the mouth a
few times, Purdue is going to have to respond, Hey, listen,
take away their guard and you got a better chance
to win. It's pretty simple.

Speaker 5 (01:20:30):
There.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
You age sixteen and three away from for Tita Center
this year, so it's safe to say they with them.
That's where you Goppen and Kentucky fans. I mean, it
doesn't matter. They could play on the moon. I've seen
it in person. Kentucky fans will follow that teammate.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Of course, there's certain teams in football that you know,
no matter where they go, that crowd NFL College, this
is one of the blue bloods in basketball that Kentucky fans,
whether they're in the woodwork or out of it, they're
going to find a way to root their team. They
travel like the Cubs do to spring training in Arizona.
Cubs fans, they're all over the playdown stealer fans. Yes,
that's yeah, that's the way it works. So but you

(01:21:06):
the truth is it's going to come down to what
it always does, execution, don't turn the ball over, shoot
free throws, and play defense. Hopefully the Cooks can do
that two more times and get to San Antonio for
the final four. Al Conrod James, I know you guys
want to get in on the goose a home game
for this team. So that's the goal, right, get to
that home game. Let's let's let's get a lot of
red and white and San Antonio. That is the hope.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
All right, eight.

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Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
Rockets win last night one one fourteen over the Atlanta
Hawks and Stefan Diggs. Now with the new England Patriots
three year deal there, we've been talking about the coogs.
See a couple of you want to get in al
on the south side wants to weigh in on the cougs.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
What's going on now?

Speaker 15 (01:22:37):
Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
Guy's great show?

Speaker 15 (01:22:39):
Hey Sean, you all were talking about throwing it around
about the bitch prayer and I just want to put
it to bed real quick about the Jordan and the run,
the era of the kids and all that. Lebrun came
in the league winning number twenty three and the youngsters.
Now talking about Lebrun.

Speaker 5 (01:22:55):
They fav clear.

Speaker 15 (01:22:56):
Guess what show they got a pair of air Jordan
Jones I digress from.

Speaker 5 (01:23:02):
I mean they got Jordan.

Speaker 15 (01:23:04):
She was just Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan's no, they're not
even close. But Shun, these friends work for a call.
I'm gonna just take a different approach. My pinion is
I love it, Shun, because guess what it's kind of
been through Kareem abdude Jaboi history coming up in U
c l A and all those players back in the
day they robbed Pete to pay Paull these dudes material

(01:23:27):
gain these guys boosters or whoever, billions of dollars and
you know the jerseys sits.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
Imagine them a low I'll send.

Speaker 15 (01:23:35):
The jersey back, then getting the transfer and then you know,
being able to get paid.

Speaker 5 (01:23:40):
So I love the paid for.

Speaker 15 (01:23:41):
It now, whether they do it with timing and when
you can go and all that, that's on them. They
created this monster. Pay them kids, because guess what since
the history of the game, these cottage splayers el they.

Speaker 12 (01:23:53):
Proved in NBA, they won championships.

Speaker 15 (01:23:56):
I don't care how they need to have a problem.
Pay them kids, because I guess what the kids putting
needs and meetings and dollars in your pocket. So guess
what day in school? Two insanes and all that, I'm shun,
I'm hands and I'll pay them. They need to add problem, I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Take you, just take them well at first off, I
don't think from thank you, al. I've always said, when
you say you don't like the transfer portal the way
it works, doesn't mean these kids. I'm one hundred percent
on board with these guys getting paid. If you're selling
jerseys at your university and they're making money off you,
you damn right you better get. But that's name image
and like this, sure, there's no question about it. And

(01:24:31):
if there's a market out there to pay you, people
want to. If you know an airline wants to pay
a million dollars, go for it. Listen, if somebody wants
to pay one of these quarterbacks to go and give
them a sales speech once a quarter at their board
of directors meetings for their product, and they pay them
a million a quarter, you're paying for a service, just
like you would somebody wrote a book, or a politician
or a former athlete or a you know, a military

(01:24:54):
that goes and gives speeches. Okay, I have no problem
if somebody thinks you can move their product and you
want you to endorse it. Why amateurism went out when
track and Field was you know, they put it in
a fun forum. Stop it just just frigging stop it.
And now we don't have to cheat. But there's you'll
find ways to cheat, to cheat the system. That's why
for me, i'm one hundred. I'm all in on the
guy's getting paid. I don't like hand to hand cash
where you're recruiting an eighteen year oldor seventeen year old

(01:25:15):
at high school, say come to my school, We'll give
you five million bucks. Now, if a company says I'm
Ford Motor Company and I want that guy at eighteen
to start driving my SUV and or my truck, why
shouldn't he free enterprise? Why why shouldn't he a Well,
it's an unfair advantage. It's an unfair advantage because the
guy's talented. If you're running a four h kind of

(01:25:36):
and you're big, and you go here in this state
of Texas and somebody likes you and you're endorsing their
cowboy boots brand and you're an up and fine, if
there's a market for that. I just don't understand as
an athlete why we're so late to the party on this.
They're damn right, they deserve to get paid. I just
think that's the way we're doing it. There's a slippery
slope there that you go onto the transfer port I'm

(01:25:57):
not I don't buy into the transfer You get beat
out three times and you transfer a fourth time to
get more money. No, I don't want you by the
fourth time. It tells me you're quitting everywhere. Now, if
you're injured and you lost your job and you want
to go get a chance to compete, I your coach
the leaves. I get that there's outliers, don't I do
want to pay them. But when it comes to transfer portal,
when we do it and how we do it, Like

(01:26:18):
I said, are we going to get to the point
where you can start cutting them? Then it's real. Are
we gonna put we do need a salary cap on
the end? An il we just do find them? Yeah,
you get no, or you get to the point that
if they go over the salary cap, you lose a
scholarship the next year in nil because you're giving the
big fellows. If you don't have a salary cap. The
top ten, twelve, fifteen teams are going to be same

(01:26:39):
every year. You'll get an upset once a while, but
they can't tow as stand six games of it to
go there and basketball, you just can't do it. You can't,
you can't be You can't play out out of your
body and play three number one seeds or whatever along
the way and still win it as a sixteen seed
or fourteen seed. It's hard to do. And so the
level is of playing field. And then also if you
have a buyout, if you want to prevent it, then

(01:27:01):
let's treat them like adults. That there's a buyout, that
this five star wants to leave, well you got to
buy them out just like you would a coach. If
I want Kirby Smart, it's going to cost me a
lot of money to get him, So pay the school
the money and if they're willing to part with them,
go And everybody deserves the first transfer, it's a transfer
without sitting out. I'm all for a guy gets injured,
but three and four transfers I can't buy in to me.
Most of those are you're chasing money which ain't going

(01:27:23):
to be there. If you're transferring four times, you ain't
getting paid the fourth time. I'm just telling you you're not.
So I'm all four al. It's the way we're doing it.
If they're going to treat them like pros, then there's
other things that go along with labor and work and
four one case and unions and all that stuff. If
you're going to treat them like pros and pay them
like that, then they can be cut off a college campus.
And I got to put a salary cap on you.
So you can't just buy every player on the planet.

(01:27:45):
We got to equalize this and with the smaller guy
who doesn't have the same money as the bigger guy,
you bring it to equality as close as you can get,
and you put value on each player. If that's the case,
that you got to have a buyout, just like to
do co coach. You can't get up and leave during
a contract right and play well, these kids deserve everything
the coaches used to do it. The coaches, you've got

(01:28:07):
to pay them to get them out of a contract.
So for paying the player, why don't we do the
same thing for them?

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
And the one that gets me is I get paying
on potential and I know that production player gets drafted,
you get signing bonus, and the NFL, the leagues, they
they got to a point where they're like, this is
getting out of hand. I mean, it's just we've got
to slot this thing as much as possible. But like
we just Bradford's class was the last one. I think
the quarterback from Oklahoma was the last one that they
didn't have an entry level wage scale base. But on

(01:28:33):
the college level, we just saw it play out. Bryce
Underwood was LSU all the way through and then all
of a sudden, Michigan comes in. Twelve million dollars. You're
paying a guy that you have no guarantee that this
guy is going to even get closer to living out
to the potential that you think, and you're giving them
twelve million dollars.

Speaker 8 (01:28:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
See, I'm all about paying them on production. And if
you're going to pay them on potential, put it in
a fund or somethinghere they can grab it. Just like
somebody who's parent to the kids that want to give
all their kids their money. You give an increment while
they're there, so they're still they got to be working
towards graduation. You don't get to come there and not
go to class, still get paid. You've got to be
working towards graduation to even qualify. In my mind, for nil,

(01:29:08):
that's just the way it should work if we're doing
it the right way. Because we're no longer student athletes. Dude,
it's it's you're an athlete money and oh, by the way,
classes there if you I'm not saying it's everybody, but
it's true the student athletes. That's that's the way we
use that twenty five thirty years ago. Ain't the same
now and it shouldn't be. But pay him on. I
have no problem with production. It's hard for me to see, well,

(01:29:31):
sixteen year old high school quarterback five million now to
get him he's going to be that good. You don't
know him. Maybe he is, and that's part of the
risk reward you go with. But if you put a
salary cap they'll be smarter. It allows teams like Missouri
who may not have the same as a as another
as Alabama or Texas who's got more than Arizona University
of Arizona would have God right, So then you have

(01:29:53):
a capologist. Make it all about it. If you're going
to make it pros, make it pros but production. I
have zero issue with you somebody saying, you know what,
I think that you're really good and we want to
we want to pay you. This not hand in hand,
here's how you do it or nil. But the transfer
portals become it's more wild than any any of the pros.
So if they're if they are pros, don't we have

(01:30:14):
to put other things in that treat it like pros
to protect the program. And you mentioned that quarterback. There
is no legacy at Michigan. He was lsu thrown through.
And then Dave Portnoy got a hold of Larry Ellison's wife,
a Michigan grad, and Larry Ellison, who is the CEO
and chairman of the board at at Oracle, walked in
and handed them twelve million bucks. And there you go.

(01:30:35):
So that's what it's all when we say follow the money,
and it's college sports has literally become follow money. I
don't begrudge the kid because the rule says they can.
We just got to adjust the rules so college football
and college basketball don't get out of hand. And we're
in a real slippery slope. It's downhill. Brother, you better
put a big old wall to stop it, because you
can't offer him an eight Carrett diamond ring and then

(01:30:57):
go back and offer him a half of carre at
Cubic Zirconia. It's never going away, but you better start
to monitor it and regulate it or you're in trouble. Well,
I mean, and you know to the point there, I
don't I don't begrudge the ask for the money. The
adults have always ruined everything in the room. They're the
reason we're here, and then the kids take advantage of it.
There you go. Conrad James wants to weigh in here, Conrad,

(01:31:17):
what's up, buddy?

Speaker 9 (01:31:19):
Ah?

Speaker 5 (01:31:19):
Yes, hi, gentlemen.

Speaker 10 (01:31:21):
Well, I want to talk about the Cougars and congratulations
that Cam Smith. So for me, the two things that
helped the Cougars win that game. It wasn't a pretty game.
It turned out to be a nailbider, as you know
one at this point. Luck there's a big variable that

(01:31:44):
helps teams. And how Luck helped the Cougars is they
let a lot of people go into the paint and
have short shots. Now, if half of those shots went
in for Gonzaga, we're looking at a very different game.
I was on the edge of my seat as I

(01:32:04):
saw these people put up these four footers five footers
while they're in the paint, and I was thank god
the ball bounced out or didn't make it into the basket,
hit the front of the rim.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:32:17):
I think at this point, if the Cougars are going
to go all the way to San Antonio, which I
sure hope they do, that they have to be a
better defensive team. Even though they're a good defensive team.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
They got they are a great defensive team. They didn't
play their best defense last game, but they are a
great defensive team.

Speaker 5 (01:32:38):
You are absolutely right.

Speaker 10 (01:32:40):
I want to see them do a better job keeping
people out of the paint. Impossible.

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
Yeah, I appreciate the call. Conrad James. Here, here's how
I feel. I think luck comes into everything. Luck that
somebody doesn't get hurt, or when somebody falls on the
floor they didn't bruise their hip and got it. There's
luck that falls. But I can go both ways. There's
time when the Cougars that open looks and missed them.
We can also say the game wouldn't come down to
a possession if it's not for the guy missing some

(01:33:06):
easy shump or missing both ends of a free throw,
you know, missing two free throws in a row. Those
are things. So he's right, I know what path he's
talking about. You're fortunate that if they're knocked down a
few of those chippy's that are inside, it may be different.
But also on the other end, if you hit a
few open shots, maybe you extend the lead. So the
ifs and the luck comes in. But I'm a big

(01:33:26):
guy and I know this is a big believer. Should
I say on?

Speaker 5 (01:33:29):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
What is it? Opportunities when luck and preparation come together,
you know whatever that phrase goes. But and it is true. Okay,
they miss shots, but maybe it was because you're constant,
relentless defending of them. And then when they get an
open look, they're still cognizant of somebody coming around. So
you either hurry a shot or you don't finish, or
you don't extend on a jumper. I think it's all
a cumulative effect. But Conrad James is right, and you

(01:33:51):
know how I believe in this is an offensive guy
in sports. I'm going to tell you right now the
word the greatest momentum changer in a game and the
greatest shot Red bull in a game or five hour
energy is a defensive stop two or three in a row.
Of all the teams left in the country, there's some
really good defensive teams. There is nobody better than this team.

(01:34:12):
They will contest it, and then they just got to
finish on the other end and they didn't play their
best game and they know it. So a little fortunate, yes,
but you've got to have a few of those breaks.
Whether Florida is gonna get a couple along the way,
if they're getting there, that's exactly what. That's exactly with
some help from from some friends, right whether they did
or not. And we know Florida has been dominant and
Danny Hurley with his arguments, so you're gonna get him

(01:34:34):
every game. The bottom line is what do you do
in the cumulative effect to affect a guy who's got
an easy finish at the rim and can't. Is it
the cult effect of dominant pressuring defense.

Speaker 7 (01:34:45):
I know this.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
There's nothing more stressful on an offense in any sport
that when the other team just refuses to get out
of your kitchen. I'm telling the constant pressure, it's not
the physical part. Constant pressure is the emotional and physical part.
I mean, the physical part is one thing, but the
emotional and mental beatdown that it takes to stay focused,

(01:35:08):
because in games like that, it's two possessions. It'll make
the difference. And when you get when you're constantly getting
beat down and you're mentally got, it's exhaust after the game.
They're not just going home because their legs are tired
and falling hit in the sheets. It's like, I've played
the Cougar's Dude, and I am friggin done this. Karen
Did I say Karens Because they're you know, Gladys Kravitz
on the street and bewitched. That's a good thing when

(01:35:29):
you're playing defense because every time you look up, somebody
is staring in your window. That's who the Cougars are.
On defense. Get to the backboards, make your free throws,
and and let your stars knock down the clutch shots.
They're as primed as anybody left to win the whole thing.
The Aunt and Uncle example, it works in a good
way too. And then I think you kind of just

(01:35:50):
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(01:38:04):
Gary and Spring wants to weigh in here on the conversation. Gary,
what's going on? Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 12 (01:38:09):
Hear me all right?

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Perfectly?

Speaker 16 (01:38:12):
Okay, Hey Sean, Yeah, me cracked up. Most of the
audiences couldn't follow what you was saying. I didn't at first.

Speaker 12 (01:38:18):
They're about the Gladys Gravit still.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
About hitched window.

Speaker 12 (01:38:24):
Yeah that was so that was so funny, but most
people wouldn't understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
That's why I have to go the explanation with these
young kids watch bewitch. Yeah that was Some people don't
even know? How is Gary?

Speaker 12 (01:38:35):
I know that's the truth part of the Champion, right, Hey,
listen to things.

Speaker 16 (01:38:39):
I want to end with the controversial. Nobody will liked
me when I do the other one. But the first
one is did y'all see that? And y'all probably maybe
covered it earlier, the locker room deal that the coach.

Speaker 12 (01:38:50):
Did for Smith.

Speaker 16 (01:38:52):
Oh yeah, absolutely the phone call man that that was
so classic, man, that that had had tears in my eyes.

Speaker 12 (01:38:58):
I showed my wife and every thing that was that
was really classic. That was that was a great deal.

Speaker 16 (01:39:04):
Hey, uh the one I want to close with here
and uh and I know you're real strong on this. Uh,
well most people are, but I'm the opposite. I'm I'm old,
I'm a old school. I'm one hundred percent plus against
anybody with a full scholarship getting paid for a free education.

Speaker 12 (01:39:24):
I mean, they're getting a free education and then they're
getting money.

Speaker 16 (01:39:26):
I don't, I don't. I'm against that one percent. It's
opened up so many cans of worms and everything, so
many avenues, but I just don't see getting a free
education and getting paid for now. I'll be for I'm
getting paid if they don't get that free education and
they give that free education to another person. But I'm
just one hundred percent against let me ask you against

(01:39:48):
getting paid and a free education.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
Just just I've been. I've been where you are, my man,
and I honestly and I've tried to be. You know,
I love change if it's changed for the better, you
know what I'm saying. And I got to get where
you're going. Because I my initial thought for years, and
I've come around the last few years. I always have wondered,
why if you're selling jerseys in the lock in a

(01:40:11):
store and you're using all that money to go do
something else, why wouldn't the guy whose jersey are sell
at least have a have something waiting for him when
he graduated? Right? Oh, he sold this, there's forty grand
waiting for him. You the school's benefiting from Why don't you?

Speaker 5 (01:40:23):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
I had a hard time because I used to think
free education and the truth of matters, it's not free.
Just like somebody who gets an academic scholarship who got
a four point zero and got a scholarship to Stanford,
that's not free. The hours he put in, there's nothing
free about it. I've heard that, and I'm not saying
this just to tell you from an athlete's perspective, who
did go to class and who's got a master's degree

(01:40:44):
and worked his ass off because my parents made me.
Is that well, it wasn't free my sacrifice to get
a scholarship. Yeah, you're talented. There's a lot of talent
to people that don't you know that don't follow up
on it. But when I committed to play summer league baseball,
my dad wouldn't let us. We didn't take family vacation
because he wouldn't let me quit in the middle of it,
because that's letting the team down, even though it's just
summer league. And so when it comes to Camp Smith

(01:41:07):
or somebody or nil, somebody getting paid or getting a
free scholarship, it's no more free than the person who
had to grind and study seven hours a day to
get their scholarship academic scholarship, and plenty of athletes have
been qualified for both. So when they say free, it's
a free education that's been earned, just like when you
earn a bonus at work or whatever. We do right,
But I'm with you. I get the hand to hand cash,

(01:41:28):
but aren't we at a point though, with video games
and all the things. Coaches we got coaches making twelve
million bucks a year to coach these kids, And I
get it, and they've earned it. But what if we
pay on production not hand to hand cash. He thanks,
because I'm against the way we do it in the portal,
But should I mean, are are we punishing kids that
probably should be paid for their services? It's not just

(01:41:50):
a free education. They still think about the athlete. They
got to not only go to class to stay eligible,
and some take academics herees, they also are putting their
ass on the line in front of a hundred thousand
people where we can laugh at him or they're willing
to embarrass himself. And also, you know, go out and
put all the time, and it takes to have to
schedule class around your practice time. So I'm not saying

(01:42:11):
that one's tougher than the other, but I do finally
get I've come around, Gary, I've come around to you
know what things change and what. But the problem is,
I'm with you. The way we're doing it now, I
got a problem with it. I don't have a problem
with the kid getting nil money if he's earned it,
but I do have a problem with uh going in
and saying, hey, man, come to my school. You're in

(01:42:32):
the middle of it. You're in the middle of a tournament,
and you're going to transfer in a tournament and get
paid to leave to go to somebody else. You you
were never all in anyway. That does bother me. But
we've got to figure out a way to do it
the right way, because quite frankly, the schools are getting richer,
and the and the and the players weren't. There's got
to be a way for them to get what's rightfully theirs.

Speaker 5 (01:42:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:42:52):
One final thing, if I'm make real quick quick, okay,
uh an education is priceless.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
There's no doubt the school pays.

Speaker 12 (01:43:01):
Your education is priceless. So to me that trumps everything else.

Speaker 16 (01:43:05):
But anyway, great show, guys, appreciate you else listening to
opposing opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
No, I love it, Jerry, and I've been on Gary
side of it. It's like, I just I'm not Gary,
but somebody comes out you've got a free education, as
if somebody just handed me a scholarship or handed you
a scholarship or Gary a scholarship. No, no, no, arn
he is right. Though money's going to get spent, you'll
always be able to say. And now the thing is, well,
if you're making that kind of money, I can go back.
And I know plenty of guys who've gone back and

(01:43:30):
got their degree right, So it works. But I understand
some it's hard to come off that. Because I was
with Gary up until a handful of years ago, I
thought I understand why they should be getting paid endorsement money,
and that part of the nil even before it was nil,
you just called it getting paid for your services. Right,
you're bringing a value to a university. But he is
right if you say old school, if you're not going there,
that's why I want you to be able to work

(01:43:51):
towards a degree. You've got to be working towards a
degree to be eligible to receive receive nil money. Now
you've got to do both. And if you're not and
you and you screwed up and you're a school that
tries to cut corners, then you're gonna get Then you're
not gonna be eligible to go to play in the
playoffs or what have you. So if you make them
work towards that, now you're doubled. You're doing the right thing.
You're focusing on academics, which is a degree, but you're

(01:44:13):
also allowing these guys to get paid because there are
no offense. Buddy, if you and I are going to
school and we are four h and four h is
big here, right?

Speaker 8 (01:44:21):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:44:22):
Filling up Kyle Field on a Saturday at one o'clock?
And I have all the respects in the world. They're
the ones that make us go I'm just talking about
the perspective of the priorities aren't straight for any of
us when it comes to the money.

Speaker 4 (01:44:32):
You con said it best in the movie The Program.
When was the last time twenty thousand people showed up
to see a kid do a DM chemistry exam?

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
And when's the last time one hundred and fifteen thousand
are showing up to watch Michigan player one hundred and
seven thousand and eight thousand that you know what they're doing.
They're showing up to see what's this quarterback going to
do for so, or how's this defense going to player?
We are we beating Texas, so that that's it. And
if the player isn't getting somehow an you know, compensated
for it somehow. I don't like the structure of it,

(01:44:58):
but I do like the fact we're finally putting the
kids on equal ground. We just got to guard against
putting the kids on higher ground that the coaches because
they ain't there yet. Well, the intention is puill, That's
exactly right. That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:09):
The intention is pure. It's just the method is probably
something that needs to be tweaked. All right, Biscuit, get
to you on the other side, also a potential awkward
situation in this professional sport.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
We'll explain.

Speaker 3 (01:45:22):
The Sean Salisbury show continues, biscuit.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
What's going on, man, Man, what's up Big Sean?

Speaker 7 (01:45:32):
Hey? If I get them Accouber's Big Sean, let me
let me chime in on what your callers and said, Sean,
And it's you know me, Sean. I'm almost always a
pragmatic type of person that to say that the kids
deserve no money, that's an extreme position to me. However,
to say that this should be unlimited and we can

(01:45:55):
just let them do whatever, that's an extreme position.

Speaker 1 (01:45:57):
That's where I live too. In between. Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 7 (01:46:00):
Isn't there a middle ground somewhere?

Speaker 15 (01:46:02):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:46:03):
It seems like that's how we are in America that
we always want to go to swing. It's always a
middle ground.

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:46:08):
We can pay the kids, but pay them in a
reasonable way, you know what I mean. It just needs
to be tweaked that, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
The adults need to fix it to make it worse.

Speaker 7 (01:46:20):
That's to say that the network just the TV money alone,
Say no, man, we got to start paying these dudes
to the products something.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Because guess what you're not paying for biscuit. We ain't
paying to watch the athletic director sitting in the booth.

Speaker 7 (01:46:37):
You know, if they're the ones, you know, causing all
the money to be made, then they seem like they.

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
There just got to be a better way to do
it to where you pursue you you preserve some sanity,
but both sides you're getting theirs, and that's that that
that that'll work for me. But it's like the absurd
that adults said, oh, you can transfer during the tournament.
That's just it's not right. And you and I that
that part, but we've got to get your money ready.

(01:47:04):
You're setting here thinking, well, I'm in the tournament, even
if you're a player waiting. If your focus is on
the transfer portal and you're still in this tournament, uh,
then then then you're not all in. That's about the current.
That's what, what's why. What tom Izzo said was spot on.
If it hurts me a day or two from now,
oh well a year or two from now, because I
didn't get I think he said a year from now.
The bottom line is he's coaching these kids, and now

(01:47:27):
that's that's the mentality we have to have because those
kids deserve it, and tom Izzo quite frankly deserves their
attention as well.

Speaker 8 (01:47:35):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:47:36):
I think last thing on the subject line, I think
if you shis the n I l I think the
porter almost fixed itself, you know what I mean. It's
just the money is what you gotta fix. Ain't gonna
jumping around if the money is not there, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
So yes, take the money.

Speaker 7 (01:47:51):
And when you do the money, you know, I think, uh,
the situation salary.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
Cap the money and then we'll see what happens there,
you go, what happens.

Speaker 7 (01:48:00):
Yeah, But let me say about the Cooper's man, and Sean,
I give you credit. You You was on Michigan man.
I thought Michigan was and they they got buying that
first round barely, and so you got him in. You
had him in the sweet sixteen. I had Michigan out
in the first round. I still got twelve of them,
a sixteen team still left, and you was, you was
spot on with Michigan. I thought they'd be out of
everybody now. But the Coovers Friday night, y'all, that's a

(01:48:22):
home game, man, playing for.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
Due in that town, Oh, I know, Yeah, it's as
home as it's gonna get until they play the finals.

Speaker 7 (01:48:32):
Here, right, I mean how I think the Coopers mature
well with Perdua because Purdue's a guard oriented team.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (01:48:42):
And that's what the Cooper's here. And so you call
her earlier and said that about the shots that they
were given. That was that wasn't luck, that was calculated.
You know what I'm saying Against Kazagai, they run you
off the three point line and make you make a
shot that you not normally or comfortable take it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
It's secure of the fact that I was talking about, right,
the coumutive effect. That's if you can't hit those shots,
they're leading you to try and hit those shots. Right,
go ahead and make something you're not used to making. Right,
it's not by luck.

Speaker 7 (01:49:09):
They're forcing you to take the shot that you don't
know WHI to take. And so that's that's what the
key is on the Cougars and with Purdue is going
to be the same way. You run them off the
three point line, make them put the ball on the floor.
No kitching shoot, You got to put the ball on
the floor. You gotta finish, you know, with in traffic,
with arms and stuff flying at you, and we'll see.
We'll take our chances to me, Roberts. If you played

(01:49:33):
like he did the second half against Gozaga, the Coopers
are good. If it like you did in the first half,
I don't know we can get to the final four.

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
Yeah. If he elevates and plays like we know he
can and you get that the good perimeter play, the
Cougars will be playing in the late eight. And you
and I both know that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:50):
I mean, it's everything that we've talked about defense and
you know the old saying defense creates offense. But I
think the X factor with this team, I mean, let's
also factor in what happened to agains Kinzaga. If we're
going to talk about, oh, well, you know, if this
didn't happen, that didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
L J.

Speaker 4 (01:50:04):
Cryer has a hell of a game. You got seven
points I think out of uz In. You got twelve
points out of sharp.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:50:12):
But the point is, I mean, you've got to have
those other guys and this team can shoot, and this
team has shown you and those three guys can lead the.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
Charge on that. So that's something that's a little bit
of a difference in this one.

Speaker 4 (01:50:22):
But stay out of foul trouble too, that's the biggest one.
I mean Tugler, Tuggler and Roberts. I mean those guys,
if they're they're going to shots at the rim, they
always they're going to contest shots, they're going to dive
for basketballs. They make you earn it if you beat them.
And they've proven that numerous times this year, and Tech
got them in conference play, and then of course the
three early ones. But I mean, you know, it's it's

(01:50:43):
also too, there is an advantage in playing those early
tough games because you say to your team, hey, we lost,
but let's see what this is in March.

Speaker 1 (01:50:52):
Yeah, well the battle tested matters. And then you've got
to be fresh legged in the tournament. Make sure that
for me, the luck comes in that somebody doesn't you know,
to get a thigh bruiser, that they're healthy. Once you
can roll through healthy, this team here can compete against anybody.
They've got star power, they're they're long, and they can
test and it comes down shoot free throws, stata, foul
trouble and and and defend everything and they're as good

(01:51:15):
as anybody at it. And they will they will force
you to a place you're not comfortable with on offense
if you're the opposing team. That's what the Cougars do best,
as well as anybody in America. What do you stand
on awkward situations? I think there I love them at
times if you're not involved. Yeah, oh well even if
you are involved, if if the person you're it's awkward with,
if they're even more awkward. Right, Other than that, they

(01:51:38):
don't usually bother me. But I get more uncomfortable for
others in awkward situations than I do about myself. If
I put myself and it's like it was self inflicted, man,
you're an idiot, right, which has happened plenty. That's on me.

Speaker 4 (01:51:48):
Yeah, it's not bad. Yeah, that's that's the old saying. Well,
a potentially awkward situation will let you determine.

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
Now I don't want to be in that situation. If
you're talking about somewhere in the South Beach, I think, so, yeah,
I don't want that situation. Now, that's an awkward situation.
Now what go part of someone say it's a sticky situation?
Very easily could be. It could be. It could be.

Speaker 4 (01:52:07):
Well we'll let you decide right here. As so we
continue to roll along here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
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Speaker 17 (01:52:32):
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Speaker 4 (01:52:41):
And then if it's one of those that it wasn't
necessarily intentional, but you found yourself in the situation and
you're kind of like, Okay, that's on me. I brought
that on myself. I'm the only one to blame here,
But another one too. That kind of comes to mind
for me is the instinct that kind of creeps up
inside you of you know, I shouldn't strike up a

(01:53:01):
conversation here, and then you do, and then afterwards you're
just like, I should have listened to my gud, I
shouldn't have even remotely entertained this conversation with this person.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
But regardless, you live and you learn well.

Speaker 4 (01:53:15):
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Heat coach Eric Spolstra's ex wife and one of his
players know each other on a more familiar basis. So
his ex wife and people started to do some Internet
sleuthing here noticed that her interactions were quite abundant with

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twenty four twenty four year ard twenty four year old
forward and guard i'm I Yakez, who plays for the Heat,
that she liked a lot of his stuff on Instagram,
maybe a couple of comments here or there. So people
then started to wonder, is there something there, and that's
when people started to talk, Well, she had her own podcast,

(01:54:01):
and his ex wife name is Nicky, and Nicki has
a podcast, and she went on said podcast and addressed
it and said, this is gonna be fun. Y'all gave
me too much power When stuff doesn't go your way
in pro sports. It's one thing for you sports fanatics
to come on my page after a really big life

(01:54:23):
change or talk crazy about me, or another thing entirely
to you know, talk about my page, me myself and
harassed me, all those different types of things.

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
Call me names.

Speaker 4 (01:54:35):
But a rumor, a blinking story that is just one
hundred percent flat out not true. She also added that
Hakes and his girlfriend they've talked about it and they're
all on the same page, that it's fabricated nonsense, that
they are all rolling their eyes and laughing at the
knuckleheads out there, adding that her and Eric, while no

(01:54:55):
longer together, still have a healthy enough relationship where they
can co parent.

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
Yeah. I don't know. I want to make fun of
this and laugh, but I don't. You got to take
them at their word, the girlfriend the power forward until
they prove otherwise. I don't know. It maybe the past
of a divorce with Spolstra leaves us, or she's not
a podcast talking about it makes you suspicious. I don't know.
And uh, if she is, then I'm sure at some

(01:55:23):
point she'll be on his arm, I guess, or somebody
will find I don't know. But if it is rumors,
you know, it's one of those things where the people
who are doing it the rumors, you can't let them
ruin you. If they're not true, you address them once
and move on right. If they're not true, who cares?
If if Spolster knows, you know the power forward, the

(01:55:45):
player knows and his girlfriend knows, doesn't really matter what
the rest of the world, what, what you and I
may think or make fun of. I don't know. If
she's banging him, I don't know if if they have,
it may be a little odd that she's commenting on
the guy's stuff, but just liking something on a social

(01:56:06):
media meaning you're banging him. I don't know. Maybe that's
where the world we're in. I don't give it two thoughts,
but ooh, I wonder if she's trying to get back
at Smolster, who signed the contract and the team didn't
offer him an extension of the contract till two months
after the divorce had been filed, so she didn't get
any of that is there? Is it bitter? So she's gonna,
I know, how to get back on and bang one
of his players. I'd like to hope people don't think

(01:56:28):
like that, but I know some do. I'm sure they do.
So I really don't know. But of course, if you're
the more she defends it, the more I'll be curious,
suspicious that it's happening. Right, You've already defended it. You
don't need to keep addressing it. The more you address it,
the more we say. Oh, the more you talk it,
you're trying to, you know, trying to put cologne on crap.
It's it, and eventually it's it's gonna smell. So I

(01:56:49):
don't know, it'd be kind of weak of him to
be banging his coach's ex wife, but and weak of her.
I don't know who. I mean, they're both to blame, right,
I mean, it's an interesting enough storyline, and I guess
if it were true, there's there's plenty to go around
out there that you don't need to go there.

Speaker 4 (01:57:04):
I think it's kind of the allure of wanting it
to happen as opposed to it actually in the chase.

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
Sure that, Oh man, I can I could do visualize
what it's going to be like. Man, my coach told
me to go get to the get the cold dive
for the ball to the floor, and I'm begging his
ex wife. I guess some people think like that. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's weird. Yeah, it's it's a little bit odd.
I would hope that they that they're not, but that
would put a little bit of trouble on. We've we've

(01:57:30):
seen these stories before, teammates with teammates. Well, I mean,
you know, we've heard it before, and now the coach
and the teammate. I hope not. But the more they
address it or she does, the more that that you
start to wonder why she keeps the defendant. Once you
said it, move on. If you four know then and
and then spolstering you know, and then the player knows,
and who cares let him speculate. Well, there's a roomor

(01:57:53):
going down around about me and you. Yeah, so what
and uh, el milk it. She'll probably you could probably
milking for some more you know, likes on her podcast
or whatever. So if it's not true, who cares? What
they think?

Speaker 4 (01:58:05):
Well, I mean it's one of those things that you
mentioned of. You dress it head on, don't skirt around it,
don't leave any mystery still out there. And I need
more than just a few like hitting hearts on someone's
Instagram page or yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:58:21):
But what if I don't know what he said. I
don't follow him on Instagram. But if he said, you know,
love the Miami heat Men were well coached or something,
she put a heart on it, does that mean she's
banging him? I don't know. If she put a like
instead of a hearts that mean Now if all of
a sudden he says, oh, I'm single and free, and
she puts a heart on with with four emojis, like
with her heart popping out, thinking yeah, they want to

(01:58:42):
go have a beer? Now, A different story so I
try to give people the benefit of the doub until
they prove it's completely wrong. Is it a little bit suspicious? Sure,
and I understand why those that'll be good for a
podcast in radio banter. But if those four know it's
not or if they believe if it isn't true, or
if it is, they're going to have to work their
way through it. Eventually a scorned mail or for the coast,

(01:59:03):
somebody will come out and say something.

Speaker 4 (01:59:04):
Well, I mean, I think that it's kind of almost
you know, reeks of me, Shawn, that someone's bucking for
a script pitch to Lifetime is probably what I think
people are trying to get to here is you know,
you've got to be able to fill time on Lifetime,
and you've got plenty of stories like this on Lifetime,
so maybe maybe that would be a way there. But
it does sound like there's not much here. But I mean, look,

(01:59:26):
it's again it's something that it's like, huh, hey, I
wonder if there's something here. I mean, you know, she's
single now, the coach no longer if they haven't been
playing all that well, so is there some sort of
underlying storyline that's kind of playing into that of why
things are falling off here. I mean, I think some
of those at least want to start to get the
mind wondering a little bit. But anyway, just thought i'd

(01:59:48):
share that with y'all. All right, coming up next Cam
Smith on this opening day roster, some interesting thoughts on
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Speaker 4 (02:01:59):
One more Day and it is opening day for the
Astros over at dyke In Park Camp Smith making the
roster yesterday Rockets beat the Hawks one twenty one, one fourteen,
and at U of H getting ready for Purdue on
Friday at the sweet sixteen, Sean, We've talked about it
all throughout the week.

Speaker 1 (02:02:19):
Now it's a reality.

Speaker 4 (02:02:20):
We know that it is the case that in addition
to Cam Smith making the roster last night, the team
announcing that Brendan Rodgers edging out Zach Short for that
final spots and also Zach Dezenzo, which he's a little
curious because what did we hear all spring about Dezenzo
and Smith? They're not going to be here unless they're
gonna get you know, every day at bats, you hear

(02:02:42):
that Christian Walker is going to be there tomorrow and
he is going to play. He's ready to go from
the oblique issue. But I mean, that's one that I mean,
is that the signal to you that they just looked
at it and said, hey, look, I understand every day
at bats, but we feel like we're gonna be able
to give him enough at bats at this level to
be able to keep him here and be able to
prolong his development to all those different types of things

(02:03:04):
that they finally said, we just need as many good
bats up here as possible.

Speaker 1 (02:03:09):
I think that that's about as easy to describe it
as possible. We'll get him enough, he's gonna matter of fact,
I think it's a message that he is. He's not
here to just be a once in a while guy.
I think you're going to see him play more than
probably and they're gonna probably have to stave him off
depending on how you know. And we're sitting here saying, well,
what position is it? I have no idea. I mean,

(02:03:30):
is he left field? You're talking about the zenzo Now,
is he going to play it? You know, corner enfield?
Where's it going to be? Well, they're pretty locked and loaded.
A corner infield, but a protection against injury. I think
it is to the point where his presence is needed
here and that they're going to get him enough too,
and if they don't, then they'll find a way to
send him down and get him. But to me, I

(02:03:51):
don't have a problem with this. I don't. And this
is we talked about here about these two young stars
being a big part of their future, and I think
think they want him doing that against big league people
and in the same clubhouse as big league people.

Speaker 4 (02:04:04):
Another thing that I like, and I know that people
have pointed to this. This starting everyday lineup, Jordan is
the only left handed hitter, and then you've got, of
course Victor Kartini who can switch. But I mean, for
the longest time of hearing people all left handed bat
and need a left handed bat, and you know all
of that. I'm like, you play eighty one games in
a ballpark that has one of the shortest porches in

(02:04:24):
left field, and you would be more it would benefit
you more to have more right handed bats in this lineup. Yeah,
that's kind of the messaging that Dana Brown has subscribed
to at this point of saying, Hey, you know, I've
got an advantage built in in my ballpark of guys
that they lean in the one that way. It's not
as much as going the other way with the ball

(02:04:45):
that I can be able to cheat myself some runs
that way.

Speaker 1 (02:04:48):
I like the idea, aren't we looking for pop and
you got it? And I believe they don't think he's
overwhelmed and he did some good things last year when
they do when he was part of this roster. I
think that this is a move in the right direction
and infusing what needs to be infused energy, youth, and competition.

Speaker 4 (02:05:05):
And we talked about that a little bit earlier with
Cam Smith of what him being brought up to the
major league level means. I mean, you heard the guys
all throughout the spring, Well was it Mauricio Dubon saying
he could be a sixty home run guy someday? And
you know other guys he's built like a Transformer whatever.
You know the stories that were out there about him.
But the thing that this opening day has that probably

(02:05:27):
since they won the World Series in twenty twenty two,
the last couple of years, I wouldn't hear in twenty
three four it, but I was here last year. I
mean there's excitement, there's belief, all right, Yeah, this team's
got what it takes, all of those things. But the
storyline last year was Bregman. How much longer are we
going to have that guy around? It wasn't even about
Kyle Tucker, but you knew that soon enough that was
going to be a reality. So you get to a

(02:05:47):
point where you're plucking leaves off the tree, right, You're
starting to chop branches, and then soon enough you're all
the way down to a stump because there's nobody else
left to go at this point. Cam Smith now at
least starts to put a little bit of miracle grow
in there for you to say, hey, there's somebody else.

Speaker 1 (02:06:04):
Yeah, well, the way that guy plays, he may be
the full lawn if it keeps up. You know what
I'm saying. So I'm with you, man, I I just
I you don't want and you don't want the gap
in between right which you're talking about having this and
having that. When he gets down to a stump, there's
nothing left. You want to make sure that it just
sounds sounds cliche or sounds kind of cheesy. Flow naturally,

(02:06:26):
I don't think they'd have him up here Dezenzo if
they thought did he was going to slow his process down.
I already we already know campsmiths your right fielder. So
I'm again, give me your best. And he's they believe,
he's proven that he has given their best. And he's
versatile too, can play more than one position, and he's
got he's he's a big, strong kid. And if it's

(02:06:49):
not working that way and somebody's raking, he's not getting
his time, there's I know there's a place I know
where a place he can go is not very far
from here. So I freaking love it. I love a
mix of veteran youth and sometimes the youth challenged the
uh challenge the establishment. And they've done it here and
it's a good thing.

Speaker 4 (02:07:05):
Well, And you know, the worry that you talked about
was something that I think people avoid twenty eleven void
twenty twelve at all costs. But the difference is the
Astros during that time period. And I've said it, I
said it last week here. The worst thing that could
have ever happened to them was making the World Series
in two thousand and five, because the thought was, oh, hey,
look at all these guys. I mean, you're counting on

(02:07:27):
and close your ears for a second. Morgan Ensburg, Jason Lane,
Mike Lamb, these guys that they're putting together nice years,
but that's not sustainable. That's not long term. You've got
sustainability now. Jose al Tuov is still that guy. Jordan
Alvarez is still that guy, Yiner Dias, same deal. There's
a lot of different guys you can throw into that category.
It's not comparable at this point.

Speaker 1 (02:07:48):
Think about what he does to length in the lineup,
just Cam Smith alone, if he's who who do you
think he is? And I got news for you five
years from now. I don't think we're going to be
saying decenzos above. So I got zero issue with this.
And Brendan Rodgers' second base gives you a great defensive

(02:08:09):
He's a really, really good defensive, but he's the best
defensive second basement on this team. Al Tuovan included. When
it comes to defense, now, if he can establish it
in two seventy here like he did when he played
in Colorado, then that's great. As we heard Steve Sparks say, uh,
not going to hiss many ground balls hopefully here, and
that's a good thing. So we'll see. Not the ground
balls are a bad thing, but at that ballpark, I

(02:08:30):
get it. So we'll see. But he gives you depth
and some versatility in the infield as well. I like,
I think that keeping him was a wise move. Sparky
the other day emphatic about Jake Myers. You're not taking
that guy out? Yeah, he said, I don't care if
he hits anything. Take him in a nine hole. He
plays great defense and it doesn't matter. So uh, he
believes you can win with eight bats and maybe Jake

(02:08:50):
Myers will surprise us this year. That's the hope for sure.

Speaker 4 (02:08:53):
Someone three two, two, five seven ninety is the number
to get in on the phone line. Adrian wants to
weigh in here on the cam Smith. Adrian, what's going on?

Speaker 5 (02:09:03):
Good morning fellas?

Speaker 1 (02:09:06):
What's up?

Speaker 17 (02:09:11):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (02:09:12):
Yes, Cam Smith? Young man, welcome to the Major League
and thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:09:18):
Why am I thinking you? It's because now Jake Myers
has McCormick.

Speaker 18 (02:09:26):
That young man walked in and one of y'all's globe
was on the ground, as Sean likes to say, and
he walked up, picked it up, turned it inside out
and ticked it over the fence.

Speaker 1 (02:09:36):
This is now my corner.

Speaker 18 (02:09:38):
Now it comes down to, are you, guys what we've
been seeing or do you have another level of metal
that we're about to test? Or are you just gonna
put your head down and be like, well he took
my job.

Speaker 3 (02:09:57):
Here we go, folks.

Speaker 18 (02:09:59):
Let's see if we can get Chaz we saw during
the World Series run, or do we get Chazz we've
been see. It's metal time, boys and America. Remember all
that's so security you've been paying in your whole life.

Speaker 1 (02:10:12):
It's all the appreciate the call.

Speaker 4 (02:10:16):
Adrian, he's a regular with you guys, I've I've I've
heard him before.

Speaker 1 (02:10:20):
Yes he is, Yes he is. He makes it.

Speaker 4 (02:10:23):
He takes advantage of his time. But using the glove
example that that you like to throw out there of
you know, you put it down, somebody else can come
out there grab it for you and and be able
to make good use of it. And that's what the
Astros are hoping Cam Smith is able to do. Let's
continue at Felipe, right outside the diking park. On's away
in Felipe.

Speaker 1 (02:10:43):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (02:10:44):
Good morning tellers.

Speaker 19 (02:10:45):
Uh, don't crucify me here, but I've never seen the
bench rover since then.

Speaker 5 (02:10:48):
I know.

Speaker 1 (02:10:50):
That's a loss on you, God for you. You better
get on it, my man, better get on it.

Speaker 9 (02:10:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (02:10:55):
I've always thought about watching it. Not right now, maybe
a good time, and I think it's basic on season
coming up.

Speaker 5 (02:11:00):
Gotta watch it.

Speaker 19 (02:11:02):
Quick question for you, Sean, knowing you played in the NFL,
watching the video with Ken Smith, you know he was
very emotional and I think all of us would be
getting that call up, especially starting to opening day.

Speaker 12 (02:11:12):
We just he just got drafted last year.

Speaker 20 (02:11:16):
I want your opinion on if you you know, you
play in the NFL, how big is that for him,
especially being this early in his career and getting that
start on opening Day.

Speaker 19 (02:11:26):
I mean, he's he's with the team that's we could
potentially win the World Series this year. It's always been
like that for the past almost ten years. You know,
how would that affect him this year and then going forward?
Because if we get a Rookie of the Year candidate,
I mean, you know, the sky's limits.

Speaker 5 (02:11:43):
For this kid.

Speaker 19 (02:11:44):
So I just want to get your opinion on that,
because you know, we especially we all want to be
professional sports players.

Speaker 5 (02:11:49):
You've lived that and we want to I just want
to hear your your.

Speaker 7 (02:11:51):
Side of that.

Speaker 1 (02:11:52):
He'll never forget the way. Yeah, thank you, but he's
never gonna forget the way it was presented to him
the very first time. Whether you're a high draft pick,
whether you're an undrafted free agent that makes the team.
When they tell you you've made it, the first call
you make is the people were most responsible for your grind,
and that was my mom and dad. I pops first.
I mean it was just my dad was out there

(02:12:13):
working my mom and dad equally, but call hey, mom,
put dad on the phone so you can both can
hear you know, so he'll never forget it. It's in.
It'll be like I said, well, it's just going to
carry momentum over to the announcement. I'm sure there'll be enthusiasm,
but it's the discipline that's going to go along with it.
Because he may go over for four tomorrow. He very
well may go for four. He may go four for four.

(02:12:34):
It doesn't that's not going to mean anything the next day.
The confidence and understanding and seeing the ball looks like
a big beach ball, yeah, but there's also times going
to look like a p that you can't hit it,
and it will so oh, he'll never forget it and
he'll always go back to it. But now after that
and the emotion settles in, and the emotional kick back
in when he walks out there in a major league

(02:12:55):
baseball uniform, and it won't be too big for him.
But I'd stop if I was him, you know, the
pre well, take take a camera shot of it, look
up and be grateful, and then go do whatever it
is your routine is beforehand and walking to the plate,
the emotional settling, then you just got to be a ballplayer.
Then it goes into at that point in time, nobody
cares if you go one for twenty seven, it's going

(02:13:17):
to be like remember that. Well, that emotion is fine,
but it's the discipline, not the motivation. Like I said,
the discipline's permanent, motivation's temporary. So but he'll never forget it,
and it'll be a moment he always recalls after a
World Series win. If they get one and he's a
walk off home run, he'll he'll go back to man,
I've been thinking about that since my mom took me
to a little league game when I had to go play,

(02:13:40):
of course. So, but it's the discipline that goes with
when you're feeling that feeling to go back to work,
which appears to me he's got that in him.

Speaker 4 (02:13:48):
Well, it's also I mean, you compartmentalize it, getting it
out of the way, I mean, and that's what he
was able to do. And you know, you get the
emotions of it yesterday and now, I mean, sleep on it,
come back and you're ready to go tomorrow in the
opening day lineups. So we will be seeing number eleven
Cam Smith there on the field tomorrow when the Astros
take it up.

Speaker 1 (02:14:07):
All right.

Speaker 4 (02:14:08):
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Speaker 1 (02:14:36):
Brian Dabill get a contract extension because if that doesn't
work this year, that staff's probably gone.

Speaker 4 (02:14:41):
Well, I was gonna say he's not the only one.
Joe Shane would be another one. I mean, that's the
thing to this offseason that we're seeing is the Texans
are living the charmed life. I mean they're just counting
down the days to when they've got to give CJ.
Shroud the contract extension. But you're seeing teams this free
agent cycle in this offseason looking at this group of
quarterbacks and saying that ain't it. We're not even gonna

(02:15:02):
waste start.

Speaker 1 (02:15:03):
I think it's a very as far as depth goes,
it's a very weak class in my opinion. Like I said,
we never know in three years if some fifth round
is going to be a player just on from what
I've seen it. So it's a weak class. You're going
to struggle to get a third round and the third
guy in the first round, and in a normal class
with good with the deep quarterback class, none of these
guys will be taking in the top ten. But you're

(02:15:23):
in positions where you're going to be forced to take
one of them. But it tells you something. If they
go and get Rus Wilson and like they did, and
they go and signed James Winston like they did, it's
telling you that they don't believe that there's if they
don't draft a quarterback, that they didn't think the's either
one of these guys, or of the three Jackson Dart included,
is not an impact guy where they wanted. Now do
they go get somebody in the second round. I don't know.

(02:15:43):
Maybe since both those quarterbacks are signed to fairly short
term deals, but Russ Wilson a one year deal, I
don't see. I see them saying, well, who can impact
us this year and that that would not be a
quarterback for them, And I think that's why they're doing that.
You know, maybe a trade out of the pick and
get more players. I don't know, but right now I

(02:16:04):
don't see shud or Sanders or Cam wore going there.
I think Cam Wored will be the first quarterback taken
and he may end up being a star. But this
is a relatively as far as quarterback standards going. The
way people judge him pretty weak.

Speaker 4 (02:16:18):
Is it kind of surprising to you, especially when the
passing game is what it is in college football now,
that this is not a great quarterback class.

Speaker 1 (02:16:25):
Yeah. You almost feel like there's got to be a
great quarterback quarterback class every year, right, Yeah, but you
think about the two quarterbacks in the National championship game,
neither one of them or people are oozing the draft
him in the first round and both you know, Howard
was a good player, it was played great in the postseason,
didn't throw the ball around very well apparently at the
combine in shorts and a T shirt. And then the

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other one is Riley Leonard, who's a good runner, but
he's got a lot of improvement to make. He's a
late round pick or a free agent that goes and
has some veteran leaders you know, has some veteran college
leadership that he goes and gives you a marts and
hangs around on a roster. But those two teams won
the national title, and nobody's craving them, and we've had
to fight scratch to get Jackson Dart they have and

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watched him, say okay, this guy's a fast riser in
the offseason. So yeah, but what ends up happening the
kid from the kid who left Ohio State that went
to Syracuse he started, he's moving forward. Yeah, com McCord
who threw for a lot of yards last year. He's
a guy that you say, okay, kind of like you
saw with Davis Mills, right, you draft him. He's been
on winning program. Then when they went to Syracuse win,

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but man, they threw the ball all over so they
got to see more of what he can do ripping
it around the lot. And so maybe he is a
third round, fourth round pick wherever he is, or I
don't know, maybe he sneaks in the sega and say,
this guy ends up being the best quarterback in the
class because he throws it. But you're right in a
time when that's all we do, it seems, but that
I ought to tell you it's not the polished ones.

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They're just throwing it or doing a lot of stuff
to just put in great athletes to go make plays.
The polished with NFL players look at it now, they
want the two dimensional quarterback, But you still always have
to beat him from the pocket. If you're not beating
him from the pocket on a consistent basis, you cannot
live as a feet first arm first arm second guy
in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (02:18:07):
It just doesn't. You can't sustain that. Why is that
position always missed in certain with certain teams?

Speaker 16 (02:18:14):
Like?

Speaker 4 (02:18:14):
Why why is it in certain cases over evaluated Cleveland?

Speaker 1 (02:18:18):
Oh well, I think they talk themselves out of good
players at times and talk themselves in. They look for
the one weakness instead of the twenty five strengths or
the twenty strengths. I think a lot of times we'll
folks on, yeah, but man, he doesn't run four seven. Well,
you know what, I can't remember the last time, I
mean running away from somebody. But when the when's the
last time that we did that? A quarterback that won

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the Super Bowl? The first thing we said about him, man,
the guy's fast, Well we said, you know, efficient, Jalen Hurts, efficient, good,
smart runner. Even his arm came up big in the
Super Bowl. Right, So I just I don't know. I mean,
I know why it's hard to evaluate because it's not
just about throwing pitch and catch. There's things that go
and can a guy handle pressure, can a guy handle success,

(02:19:01):
the adversity when he gets wrong? What is he around
the grown men when they're leaders? And when it now
becomes you got to be a self start. There's so
many things that go into what kind of team do
you get drafted by? Good quarterbacks usually end up getting
drafted by bad teams. So now do you elevate people
around you? Orre they building it around you? They putting
it all on you? Is the coaching staff fragile? I mean,
it's just there's just a lot that goes into hard
to value and some teams, for whatever reason, just don't

(02:19:22):
get it, and they keep going at it and going
at it and hope that one day they're going to
hit it. And you can think the Cleveland Browns has
struggled with that, and when they did have one in
Baker Mayfield, they quit on him pretty quickly and went
got the wrong one. So there's that, and then there's
the Giants who struggled with it. You know, Daniel Jones
had his moments, but and sometimes it's a different front office.
You got to be you got a lot of due diligence,

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But you've got to be It's there's a lot of
ifs it's around the position, but when there isn't that's
the guy. You know, if I can check more boxes
on the right than the left of my quarterback on
the good side, then you just got a hope and
a lot of it's you're ninety eight percent of yours
and I think we got something here. There's all he's
going to be a few percent? Like is he accurate?
Even with a guy like Josh Allen when he came

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out member, it was an accuracy? Can he improve it?
Is he? And now look at him? He makes great decisions,
So gotta be well coached coaching at that position. It's
the most under coach position in the most over analyzed
position in the NFL. It is the most surprising under
coached position in football is quarterback. I'm talking about the
mechanics and going you're just looking at game plans, how

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are we going to get there? All the other stuff
that goes with it, You're not you know, it is
the most under coached position in pro football, maybe pro sports.
Is the quarterback on an NFL team.

Speaker 4 (02:20:37):
That's really surprising honestly, and I mean it's got more
coached than the offseason with his private trainer. But and
that's the thing, it's got to be that there's just
not enough like qualified people doing it. I mean not
enough people who necessarily telling you.

Speaker 1 (02:20:49):
It's the most I know guys that have been drafted
in the NFL in the first couple of rounds that
five years into their career they discovered they didn't know
how to they didn't know how to watch tape.

Speaker 3 (02:21:02):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (02:21:02):
It's not I mean no coach talking. It's under coach
because we just assume, oh, you got there, you know
how to do this. And then when they start to
overcoach is when you have two or three bad games
in a row and your arms out of slot. Then
they go try to coach you during a season. You
ain't picture. You're not fixing a picture's arms slot during
the season. That's done in the off season. But I
can't remember a time in the off season where I

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spent three minutes on the field with a coach doing
North Turner in college, but in the off season in
the NFL, with a coach walking through mechanics with me
in the NFL, in ten years, not one time unless
it was organized. But we're talking about plays in this
they're not saying to get your arm slot. That's why
say it's an under coach position. You're more game plan oriented.
That's why your off season is so important because if
you're not dialed in mechanics, that's why Brady grinded so

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much on mechanics. If you're not dialed in there in
the off season, really really hard to make a You
want your picture to change his arm angle during the season.
That's a go to a golfer and say, hey, man,
I had a swing change at Augusta. He'll shoot ninety. Okay.
It's the same with quarterback. There's no different most I'm
telling you it's the most under coach position in all

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the sports.

Speaker 4 (02:22:06):
You talked about raising the level, and that's something that
Nico Collins talked about recently on the Lots to Say podcast.
Because you mentioned CJ Stroud, I think we can agree
that CJ is one of those guys in Nico Collins
on said podcast talking up CJ in terms of his
leadership and when he showed it at first he was
the leader.

Speaker 9 (02:22:26):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:22:26):
I feel like he's a born leader, is a work
at thing. His leadership.

Speaker 14 (02:22:30):
He was there.

Speaker 9 (02:22:30):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:22:31):
He came in not even looking like a rookie. Man,
he came ready to lead. You know, because first few
years was a winner. I rebuilt year. It was kind
of hard.

Speaker 21 (02:22:39):
But you know, once we drafted CJ. Will Henry Man,
I feel like this tire team. That draft class was
nice at CJ's every day in the building. Man, It's
just you can tell he's on a mission. You know,
he he leads the right way. He be there for
you man, and there's no better guy to go out
there and play play for it.

Speaker 9 (02:22:57):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:22:57):
You know he got your back calm and collect.

Speaker 21 (02:23:00):
That's what a calm you know in precious high lights
giving bright you know, the guy says the saying, man,
I feel it.

Speaker 5 (02:23:05):
That's that's type of all you need it as a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (02:23:08):
So it wasn't only just CJ that he talked about
there quarterback wise kind of fits into the conversation we
were having. But notice who else he talked about same class,
Willie Anderson Junior, Henry Tootee, Where even probably the veteran
guys in that locker room were like, hm, never really
thought about that. You guys were doing this at Ohio State.
You were doing that at Alabama. Well, if you're doing
it there, it probably has to work well.

Speaker 1 (02:23:29):
How those programs fare every year over the last decade,
a lot of golden trophies. It's hard to I mean,
I've always you can play there. You can play on
Sunday if you're coach right, and you got to be
a little lucky and got to get to the right
team and got to get a break. But yeah, it's
there's not going to play in bigger crowds on Saturday
and you do on Sunday. It's just a different you

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growing grown men, and all of them were their best
player at their school. So it is a tough beat.
I it's you're a little safer when you go from
programs and know how to win and you get smart
football players. Bill, But find smart players and if they're smart,
they got an advantage. Give me smart and on time,
and give me football players over athletes first. Then give

(02:24:10):
me the after a football player and an athlete. I'll
take the football player first. He may not be able
to run four or five, but if he can run four,
five eight, I can survive if he gets there first.
Football players that have high football IQ, I'm gonna beat
you more than you're gonna be me.

Speaker 4 (02:24:23):
Have that intenta raised In about a month when we
start to hear more from Nick Caserio that those two
words you used football player. That's one thing that he
uses because remember that last year asking about the draft picks.

Speaker 1 (02:24:34):
Oh, we just want good football players. Then there's a
big difference. There's a difference between a good football player
and a guy who like a track guy who's a
football player, or a football player who's a track guy. Right,
they want the football player who's the track guy. Okay,
so that doesn't mean that you don't get the outlier
that one of the Ronaldo Neomya comes in and countries
are Willy Galt hell of a player. Right, But I'll

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always win more than you with with good, good sound
football players that know who to get and how to
get him. If you got high football, IQ, and you're
a good football player, and he runs a one quick
step faster and it'll show its head. But if I
get to the spot before you and I and I'm
not going to hurt myself and self inflict the airs,
I'm gonna end up beat. Smart teams win championships. They

(02:25:18):
just do they at least they get close all the time. Well,
I mean yeah, And that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (02:25:22):
I mean, the Chiefs are there always, you know, the
Eagles getting themselves back into it. Texans are trying to
take that next step. I mean, and this is all
part of They weren't very smart offensively last year. They
were sport and their offensive line self inflicted airs. That's
not smart football. They had a lot of unforced airs.
A saying that I heard once and it kind of
applies to last year's Texans team. I think they play hard,
I think they care. I just think they're dumb football

(02:25:43):
team at times. Yeah, and that's a fact. They were
at times last year. I mean they're dumb people.

Speaker 1 (02:25:47):
They were dumb. They had some dumb football iq which
we've all been there, but they had a little bit
more sustained of it. And one thing about this, I
never You'll never man, they play hard. I can never.
I'm never giving a player credit at any level for
playing hard. Ever. Ever. Now you go play after you
lost a family member, that's just grit and grind. I

(02:26:10):
don't care if you're down by three touchdowns. If you're
not playing hard, that does That is the description of
the job. You have a bad day here, you still
playing hard, playing smarter, all that stuff. I get, playing wiser,
knowing how to do it, But the playing hard, I'm
never giving it.

Speaker 8 (02:26:23):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:26:23):
If you pull a hamstring and you got it's black
and blue and you're bleeding out of it, half your
fingers cut off and you're playing that's not playing hard.
That's probably playing dumb, and that's just you're just tougher
than the rest of the world. Playing hard should never
be rewarded. That's part of the job description. And I've
never understood, Well, our kids, that's the excuse you go
to when you got your ass kicked. Our kids play

(02:26:45):
hard or get line, or are on scholarship, or our
guys weren't ready to play. Well, that's on you, coach. Yeah,
that's exactly what we jumped offside so many times. Yeah,
we did it fifty times on the practice field too,
So of course it's going to carry over the game. Yeah,
I'm sorry. It's not a hard, tough guy, but I
don't never I've never wanted credit for playing hard. So
I'm down eighteen points in the second half of a

(02:27:07):
basketball game, You're gonna give me credit for the last
seventeen minutes in a tournament game where everything's on the
line for playing hard. Nah, sorry, buddy, I when when
I hear coach says that that's that's a loser's lament.
Playing hard should be a should be a no brand.
That's part of the basic job description when you're a
professional athlete. Because I got news for you. They'll play

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hard on the way to that paycheck too, so they'll
pick it up on time. The rule, not the exceptions.
That's exactly that's right. That's pretty much what it is,
all right. Coming up next, somebody has an idea that
I think Sean will like, but I just think the
timing is a little off. We'll discuss that right here.
Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (02:27:46):
But the Sean Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 1 (02:27:51):
I can remember it vividly, and my pops would let
me drive that song. That song hits different. That's a great,
great song. I love it.

Speaker 4 (02:27:58):
Yeah, it's you've got to experience both of it. I
still remember mine. I still still remember driving with Dad
three on the tree too. Man got he got to
a point electric choke. It got to a point where
I told my mom I was like look, I'll let
you ride shotgun, but not him like it's just it
was over coaching, over coaching, high anxiety. I'm like, Dad,

(02:28:20):
you know we're in the middle of the play here,
come on, man, we coach it up later. All right,
we make the mistakes now off the tape, we clean
it up later. I heard I heard Dan Campbell say
that once.

Speaker 1 (02:28:29):
Just play the game. Now, we'll coach it later. It's
the truth we watched. That's why Denny Green used to
hate that. When coach would say, hey, stop, stop down,
he used to freaking hate it. Rub We're going tempo
and practice Chris, let's get it done, coaches coach him.
After coaching, we'll watch it on the tape and we'll
do it. Let's go. He hated us to repeat plays,
although you had to sometimes, but Denny wanted let's go rhythm.

(02:28:52):
Don't sit there and coach him. Slow up the temple,
let's get in out of the huddle, play both sides
and get this. Didn't even want to be on the field.
Two and thirty minutes and we're done. Then you go
coach them in a meeting room after what you saw.
Run it again. That's exactly. Hey, the worst. Just like
in golf, you're still away. Three worst words in golf,
run it again, the three worst words and offensive football,

(02:29:13):
it's not the absolute worst. On the line, or get
them going, Yeah, get them going means you know somebody
picked the tempo. Up on the line means your asses running,
or hey, get down, get on the line, let's get going,
get up to the line. Scrims. The worst is run
it again, because you know that it wasn't executed properly.
And then when it's a two or three in a row,
running again, somebody's about to drop an F bomb and

(02:29:35):
it's coming. I was driving.

Speaker 4 (02:29:37):
I was driving by like one of those training gyms
that you know, football kids everybody will use, and I
heard a whistle and immediately to meet bingo, that's what
it was. Your whistle rhythm, I said, Oh he's talking
up down, yeah, yeah. The worst in golf, the worst
in sports. Get get the feet going, get the feet going,
blow the whistle, hit the ground, come back up, all

(02:29:59):
right some three, two, one, two, five, seven nine. You
get to the idea here in just a second, we
got a guy calling in first time, long time Brian
in the woodlands.

Speaker 1 (02:30:08):
Brian, what's going on second time, long Time.

Speaker 17 (02:30:12):
I'm just a little disappointed in you and Sean for
not singing along with Chris Stapleton.

Speaker 12 (02:30:17):
Baby.

Speaker 1 (02:30:20):
It would just do it.

Speaker 4 (02:30:21):
It would do an injustice to the song. You know
how I feel about Stapleton. I can't do that to
the man.

Speaker 3 (02:30:27):
Sean.

Speaker 7 (02:30:27):
I don't know you.

Speaker 1 (02:30:28):
I know you don't even know who I am anymore,
do you. It's unbelievable. I mean, I was a cutmaster
a little earlier, but I gotta get back. And you
know what, we just took a hiatus on our concert tour.
You yeah, see there you go. Yeah, you feel me.

(02:30:54):
I think I need some dua lipa maybe to get you.

Speaker 17 (02:30:58):
I'm telling you, man, under leapt come and love it
a good one.

Speaker 8 (02:31:03):
Man.

Speaker 17 (02:31:04):
Hey, I just want to call in real quick again,
second time, long time. Been listening to you guys for
about a couple of weeks now with the news show,
Uh have you all talked about those dorks that melted
down on Astros Twitter for gam Smith making the locker yet?

Speaker 1 (02:31:19):
Oh dude, it's it's it's actually funny. And then people
quote tweeting each other like how wrong one was? And
I'm like, are we there? Classic?

Speaker 2 (02:31:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:31:28):
Oh yeah, they're all over the content. Oh yeah.

Speaker 17 (02:31:31):
I gave a local media member an update, uh quote
sweet yesterday. He was dead set on Chamus Smith not
making the roster, so I had to get mine in
and then I just saw, I just don't understand it.
Who cares about that year control?

Speaker 1 (02:31:45):
It's git up and let him cook. Yeah, let him cook.
It's not even gonna come into play because it's an extension,
you know how that goes to the guy's good. We'll
never see you won't see it, right, So I just
to me, yeah, you let him cook. I saw yours
and I hit it because like an update or whatever.
I can't remember what you said, dude, but it was
a classic. That's just go to that move. But I

(02:32:06):
loved it. But yeah, I don't. I don't understand the meltdown.
But that gets into staring at an analytics thing saying, well,
what if we don't how about the fact that the
guy just belongs and he was the best outfielder they
had in spring training period, her best best offensive player
not named Paynya. I mean, just stop it. It's nuts.
It's nuts, and but hey, we got to find something
to bitch about.

Speaker 19 (02:32:25):
And I like it.

Speaker 1 (02:32:26):
If we're bitching, I guess about a star and a
great energy infused move by the Astros. I'm just glad
they have the balls to do it. I think that's awesome, right.

Speaker 17 (02:32:35):
I think I think it is too. This isn't the
team from a couple of years ago. This is a
different uh generation. If you will have Astros players, Let
him get up there and see what he's got. He's
give me better than Jake Myer's offensive Anyways.

Speaker 1 (02:32:46):
That dude sucks for sure. Buddy, we miss you. Buddy. Hey,
are you on a rig anywhere?

Speaker 7 (02:32:53):
What do you you know?

Speaker 1 (02:32:54):
Selling? What are you doing? Man, big hard hack guy?

Speaker 17 (02:32:57):
Yeah, yeah, you put your hand your go whoa whoa,
That's what I'm doing right now.

Speaker 1 (02:33:03):
Yeah, whoa, whoa whoa? Slow your roll, dog?

Speaker 13 (02:33:06):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:33:06):
Yeah? Come on, that's your name when you call it,
you call his landman's Bill Bob. You're Bill Bob Thornton
Bill Bob Lolima. Okay, sell, he's a whack job. He's

(02:33:27):
the best.

Speaker 4 (02:33:28):
I mean, soon enough, though, he's gonna be drinking bud
heavies and smoking cowboy killers.

Speaker 1 (02:33:32):
You know, he's gonna he's gonna really live the rough
neck like I can't wait till there was Bill like visiting.
He's got a grit talking while it's still in his mouth.

Speaker 4 (02:33:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, he's gonna he's gonna be a changed man.
I mean, that's just the way it goes when you
move away. It's all good sledding, man, it is it is?
Oh all right? Coming up next, final thoughts on opening
day Eve also see a couple of you want to
get in on some cougar's talks, So we'll do that
right here. It is a Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk

(02:34:02):
seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:34:05):
Sean Salisbury Show continued talk about some coons, Roger, what's
going on?

Speaker 14 (02:34:13):
Oh it wasn't about the cooks, but hey, man, more
power to him, man. I can't wait to see him
on Friday.

Speaker 1 (02:34:18):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (02:34:19):
In regard to the camp's myth a decision, yeah, the
reason why, the reason why. Oh by the way, Sean,
I can't believe nobody's one of your colleagues hasn't watched
Bench Warmer. That's amazing anyway. So uh yeah, it was
pretty pretty much an easy one. Look what happened last year?

(02:34:40):
How did they fell out last year? What happened last year?
They just don't have the firepower, bro. They'll want to
they want to start off in a big hole that
they dug themselves. And you know the rest of the vision.
You know, they might not be as good, but they
got better. Everybody's gotten better on paper. But yeah, less
government should be seen. But yeah, you got to you

(02:35:00):
got to keep up, man, You got to. You gotta
put your your your your host is out there. And
like I said, well Crumbrick has improved anything. So you know,
everybody knows how the season started last year, what happened
last year out of the season start, what happened in
our own place.

Speaker 1 (02:35:17):
Appreciate the cal Roger. I mean, that's another part of this.
And Joe Spot has talked about it from the beginning.
They have to get off to a better start this
season because, I mean, in so many words, he said,
lightning's not going to strike twice. You're you're not going
to pull off what you did. I mean, people believe
the Rangers are going to be much improved Sean. As
a matter of fact, I mean, I'm sure we'll probably
do some predictions tomorrow. There are I believe eleven of

(02:35:40):
the athletic writers saying that the Rangers are gonna win
the al Pennant this year. I mean much more than
when the aos that they're good enough that they're going
to be able to make that run. So I mean,
you know you're gonna have to try to fight them off.
The Mariners are there.

Speaker 4 (02:35:56):
I mean, it's just it's a lot more competition than
you've had in the and falling behind twelve and twenty
four that ain't gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:36:03):
Get the job done one hundred percent. They cannot have
that same start, and I don't anticipate them being twelve
games under five hundred after thirty six games are played.
I don't see that happening. So, but that's where you
can't start. Then the chase becomes too much. You're in
such a chase mode. We talk about the pressure that
comes with that. That's another extra burden you don't want
because then you start to get to a point in

(02:36:24):
the second half of the season where you start like
a golfer who's got to lead. You start to ors trailing,
you start scoreboard watching too much that the focus is
on if we don't take two or three, two or three,
And it's such a cliche, but you got to stay
the course and you got to you know, take it
one game at a time, and unfortunately, in that situation
you do because you can't win five at a time.
But you take a lot less pressure off yourself if

(02:36:47):
you're not in the if you're not the dog chase
in the rabbit the whole year. They cannot get down twelve,
you know, twelve games under five hundred. They were fortunate
that they won an unbelievable role. But you can't count
on whenning twenty of twenty four or twenty eighteen to
twenty two games. That's rare in Major League Baseball, right,
So I don't think we're going to get to that,
at least I hope not this energy. But we're going

(02:37:08):
to see just how well the production is. And I'm
I'm here for every second of it.

Speaker 4 (02:37:12):
Well, I mean, sometimes you play your game and sometimes
the other guy just doesn't falter back. Or if you
do play your game, well, hey, they start to bogie,
they start to double, they start to do all those things.

Speaker 1 (02:37:21):
Maybe they're scoreboard wise. You can make a bogie and
win the tournament, then that's a good thing. But if
you've got to make birdies on eight straight holes, which
they had to do at times last year, that takes it.
You know, that takes the Tiger Woods at his best run,
and that doesn't happen very often either. Those are you
just can't dig those holes. They're not good enough or

(02:37:43):
deep enough right now to dig a twelve for twenty
four hole, at least on paper. Going in. There's injuries,
there's some you know, some defensive moves that they've made,
and you got some young players. Yeah, twelve to twenty four,
that's one of those. You'd like to stay out if
you don't want to start twelve out it. You know,
you don't want to be twelve and twenty four. You'd
like to twenty four and twelve and then you can
relax and play baseball instead of scoreboard watch. Well.

Speaker 4 (02:38:05):
I mean that's something they haven't been able to do
the last couple of years of being able to win
an opener of this season. You hope you are able
to get back on the right side of things. Bill
didn't have time to get you in the day. We'll
get you in tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:38:18):
It is the Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (02:38:20):
Thanks to Sean, thanks to tripole E, Emmanuel Elmore, Dan
Matthews again. Astros Baseball coming your way tomorrow. Opening Day
from over there at dyk In Park. We will be
all over it here on your home of the Astros,
Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:38:34):
We'll talk to you in twenty hours