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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Sauls Grey. Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sean Salisbury, The USC Truths longtime friend shown Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Ryan Lima, go Lobos.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 5 (00:22):
For some, they'll never get another They'll never get an opportunity.
They won't They'll just say, you're not gonna do it
anymore to want to go to camp anymore. Don't want
to have to go through that get their life started.
Some are going to grind and go to camp for
as long as somebody tells me you can't play anymore.
Some will get picked up. Some will get picked up
and become better players somewhere else. Some will I mean,
it's just crazy. It's a miserable day, and a coach,

(00:43):
you start to form relationships. It's hard to say goodbye
to guys, man, it just is. It's hard to cut them,
especially if you think good person first, a good football player,
and getting cut doesn't mean you're not a good football player.
It means, you know, sometimes there's just not enough room.
You didn't get an opportunity. You're young, made a few mistakes,
but you can go correct those at another city. Whatever
it is. But it's not fun. It's not fun for

(01:05):
the guy to have to do it, and the coaching
staff everybody thinks, oh yeah, they're getting rid of No,
it's it's a hard it's extremely hard to do. And
it's that one day man, you're just like, please don't
knock on my door. Please don't knock on my door.
You know, when you're young, trying to get into it,
and you'll never it. Sometimes shapes you get cut and
you say, okay, I'm we'll go back to the drawing. Well,
I'm we'll fix this next time I get another chance.
And some will just say, you know what, the grind

(01:26):
was too much. I gave it a go, emptied the
bucket and get my get my life started. I mean
outside of football. So it happens, but those days it's
not a fun day. It just isn't a tough day
for it. But the fact too that we're excited because
it's football season and it means, you know, when the
final cuts are made, it means, hey, what's next. We're
kicking it off regular season. But to that guy who

(01:50):
got cut or that guy who made now the elation
of making it like a rookie or a fifth round pick,
or you're a free agent signing and you like make
the you make the team. It's like, oh my gosh,
it's like, well, it's a life changer, right, all those
things you've been thinking about when you were hitting home
runs is a third grader or playing Pop Warner or
youth football in the sixth grade, this is what you

(02:11):
wanted and now you have the opportunity to do it.
Regardless of what happens with the rest of your career,
you can always say, for a year, two ten, whatever
was that you were among the best players in the
world at what you did. And that's really the cold
hard facts. Is what fifteen hundred of them or something? Yeah,
around there a year, Yes, I'm about right, twelve to fifteen,
sixteen hundred, whatever it is. Whatever you do fit, you

(02:32):
do the math fifty times thirty two, fifty three, fifty
five times thirty two, and it's a it's something you'll
never forget. And you know how certain people, Wow, that's
one of the best artists in the world, one of
the best. You are literally at your position, one of
the best athlete slash football players in the world. And
that's a good thing.

Speaker 6 (02:51):
Yeah, some some tough cuts yesterday for a lot of
teams throughout the NFL. We'll dig into that when we
talk NFL. We got to look at some of these
cuts for the Texans. Noah Brown was cut yesterday. Tim
Boyle the quarterback. We talked about who the third string
quarterback is. But then you turn around and Case Keenan
was placed on ir. However, there's a little twist to

(03:12):
that because there's some benefits involved. Ten years service time
gets you the benefits in the NFL. So the Texans
do right by Case Keenum. We'll dig into all that.
We also have an Astros general manager, Dana Brown. He's
gonna join us at nine and thirty this morning. In
the Strows shut out by the Phillies last night, Aaron
Nola was nasty.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
And the Astros just man, Justin Verlander got hit around
pretty good. They got him, They got at him quick,
got at him quick. And then when you get a
guy quick and you think, oh, we can come back,
and this is the problem is you're not facing a
hack on the other side. That dude's nasty.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
Luckily, the Rays took care of the Mariners last night,
so the division lead stays at three and a half.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yeah, that would have been Ah. That's getting a little
too close for comfort anyway, three and a half too
close for comfort. But last night, listen, there's no shame
in losing to Philly, but they they look like a
championship team. Not they tast do and they're really good,
and they're pitching staff's really good. So you know, like
I said, got at him early. And when that happens,
and you've got a phenomenal pitcher on the other side,

(04:17):
the initial four oh starts tough to overcome.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
They're they're one, two, three four. Is they got j
trail Muto hitting seventh for them?

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Yeah? Think well that way good for the Phillies. Yeah,
I know that's a deep ass lineup. Kyle Schwarmer, we
know what he can do.

Speaker 6 (04:35):
And then Trey Turner, Bryce Harper, Alec Bowm that's got
to be the best two three four in the league.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
Hard to hard to match anybody better. I mean, you
got and the Dodgers are healthy, are pretty good, and
you know the floor first Soto five hundred million, the
floor the floor right right, five hundred million dollars. So
it is, uh, yeah, that lineup's not only uh that
that lineup's not only formidable that you're right in the

(05:01):
front half of that when those two, three, and four
in it, well, forget that. One's good too. When your
lead off hitter can pump thirty forty home runs. Yeah,
and I believe he leads the National League and walks
by like thirty Kyle Schwarber, Yes, so as much as
he strikes out and as much as he hovers, he
walks a lot too, because you're a little careful with him,
kind of like Altuve. You don't want to and he's

(05:23):
got a little more prodigious power than Altuve. You don't
want to start your game by getting one up and
the guy hammers one, right, got ninety one walks this year,
and it's like the next close guy's like six, either
sixties or seventies. That is just stupid. Yeah, I mean,
and I want you to keep this in perspective. There
was a season when Barry Bonds had over one hundred

(05:44):
intentional walks.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
There are only two guys that head of Kyle Schwarburn walks.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Judge, yes, one of them, and Soto. Yeah, and they're
both in the American League.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
Correct, In the National League, it is Kyleege Schwarber at
ninety one, and then the next closest in the National League.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
Show you go, yeah, and to think about this now,
just a little perspective on how the game's changed and
how you pitch me. Bonds had over two hundred walks
and one hundred plus intentional. The number one guy in
the National League hasn't hit a hundred yet of regular walks,

(06:20):
Bonds had over one hundred intentional walks. He was getting
intentionally walked with bases loaded, like and also get intentionally yeah,
to walk a run in to prevent you from losing
by two, three or four. And he also they were
like walking him in the first inning. Nobody on bail.
Let's put a guy on. It's you want perspective, dude.

(06:42):
He had more walks intentionally than anybody has just regular
walks right now. That's that's that's yeah. That's a nut statistic,
isn't it. But getting back to this game last night,
listen when two dynamic and precise pitchers going at it
and one just got the best of them. But they
a lot of times we've seen Justin Verlander come out

(07:04):
and somebody give give up a solo home run, right
and then the team gets back into it. The problem is,
like I said, you're not facing a guy then after
two innings is going to wear out. Aaron Nola's like,
I said that, you're right. You talk about the two,
three four in the hitting order, they're one, two, three
four pitching are formidable enough to go win a World
Series without great hitting. So yeah, they they've got to

(07:26):
get this right, and they've got to produce more at
the plate, no question about that. And I think we've
made it clear in the last day of Brown today.
I just I don't see how if you're healthy and
not sick, and you're not hurt and we're should injured,
how you do how you're the next thirty games. You're

(07:48):
not playing all the time. The lineups, the lineup is
not changing until unless there's a matchup. Your core players,
those seven or so guys you're playing every day. Man, Yeah,
And I would tell them that. I would tell them
out in the clubhouse, said listen. I'd call him up
and say, here's what's going on. I would make sure
they know that it's sprint time. Not to hurt anybody's feelings,
but you guys, you'd you better expect to be in

(08:09):
the lineup every day.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
I just look at this, this lineup last night, al
Tuvey was the only person in the lineup with multiple hits.
Bragmant Opher Yiner, Opher Singleton, Opher Pania Opher. Those are
guys that are gonna have to produce. And you know what,
I think part of me wants to tip my cap
to Aaron nolea because he's really, really good. But like,

(08:31):
these are teams that you're gonna, hopefully assuming they win
the division, to get into the playoffs. This is a
team that obviously you wouldn't face until the World Series,
but this could be a World Series rematch, and down
the stretch when you get into the playoffs, you're gonna
see guys like Aaron nola Some of these guys you
gotta just gotta produce. Now you've lost the series. Now
you're looking to avoid the sweep.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
And this lead is it may stay at three and
a half, but three and a half seems like it
feels like half a game. I'm not comfortable with the
three and a half lead. There's just no shot that
I'm comfortable with that one series that you don't play well,
your half came out. If you're Seattle, if if if
you get swept in another series, and the other teams

(09:12):
we knew Seattle was gonna at some point play better
baseball at least. I mean, they lose yesterday, but if
they if they go on one of these seven out
of ten rolls and you get struggle to get through
some of these, well it's one series and we're right
back at it.

Speaker 6 (09:26):
Yeah, and the schedule doesn't get easier for the Astros,
right The Kansas City Royals sewn.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
They won again last night. They just tied Cleveland for
the division lead. Those dudes are on fire and the
divisions felt like it was over a month and a
half ago. Cleveland was just running away with it dead
sprint and they were out in front of everybody. Talk
about somebody who's starting to think, well, maybe we get
some guys some rests. It was theirs, and take a
look at what Kansas City's done, and when you think

(09:51):
about that part of it, they have to I mean,
like I said, this goes back to the seriousness of it.
And I know they have a sense of urgency, but
you their schedule gets tougher and you go through these
streaks and think the Asters have played so well over
the what seventy five games or whatever seventy games, At
some point as professionals. Don't you think Seattle goes on

(10:13):
seven and seven and ten or seven and four, you know,
seven and eleven and eleven games go seven and four,
eight and five or nine and three just because they
I mean, they can pitch and they're they're good team,
and maybe they find a little fire without you know,
with the Scott Service change. But there's not a lot
of time to you can't just you can't toy with this. Now.
They've got just looking ahead for the Mariners.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
They've got Tampa Bay today and they've got their their
dude on the mount least Luis Castillo. Then they've got
three in l A with the Angels, and then they've
got four in Oakland. Their next seven games outside of today.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
They should win five.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
They should win five of them. Yeah, and then they
go to Saint Louis and Saint Louis Is. I mean,
they're okay, they have an easy they're let's see three
with Los Angeles, four with Oakland and three. So their
next eleven games are against not very good teams.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
Well, I'm still right low five hundred teams. What I
said at midway point, ol Romni keep riding with it
that I if this division's decided, or when it's decided.
I don't think it's going to be decided until the
last week of the season.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
There's a big series between Seattle and Houston late in
the season September twenty third, twenty fourth, and twenty fifth.
It's the second to last series. Where's that at here?

Speaker 5 (11:33):
Well, we saw them in the second to last series
last year. If I'm not mistaken, at the very end,
then they go Seattle Arizona to win it go five
out of six, they had to end. Now they have
Seattle at home, and they got Arizona on the schedule too,
don't they at some point coming up the Astros. Yeah,
they've got the Royals, right, they've got Cincinnati and then
they've got uh, I believe.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
It's let me double check, is it Arizona? I believe
it's Arizona. After that, Yeah, it's Kansas City, Cincinnati, Arizona.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
And that is Uh, you'd rather have Seattle's run now? Yeah,
And well it's it's gonna be you know what, I
love it though. It's gonna be a hell of a
it's gonna be a hell of a battle. Yeah, I
absolutely love it. Yeah, And uh, if you're facing Philly
in the National League, you better bring everything you got
because they can hit and their front line pitching is
is sick and well you can shut the Astros out.

(12:28):
Pretty impressive. The turnaround was a Castillanos home run right off.
Oh yeah, early, It's kind of set the tone for
the game.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (12:33):
He.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
I was doing some bandido stuff last night and practice
and being at the field and I got the notification.
I was like, Okay, Castianos hit a home run? What
happened in the world?

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Why are you down on Castianos? Remember, yeah, sat red
every time something goes on. Yeah, he hit a home run.
So I'm like, oh great, what happened? Nicki? People with
people with upset you called Nicki poo? Who No, you
don't call it Nicki poo? What would you call Castianos?
Casti sounds about right? Yeah, cast day, Nicky, nick Kay exactly,

(13:08):
nick Kay, tripley was happening to man, good morning, good morning,
she got big dogar.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
What are we got today? On the uh on the
ones and TUESA.

Speaker 9 (13:16):
The doctor keep in tradition for our Wednesdays, which is
white Boy Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
Sean apparently has his banger playlist for us today so yep,
banger play. Well, when I give you the first one, start,
now tell me it's not a banger when it comes back. Okay,
you want me to tell him? Oh, just let him.
Let him enjoy it, Okay, man, let him enjoy the
run dog. Good looking shirt today, Sean, I paid some
respect to your peeps that that's coming up in nine

(13:41):
to twelve. I paid some respect.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
There you go. Let's look at Verlanders outing. He got
roughed up? How did he feel about it?

Speaker 5 (13:47):
That's next right here on Sports Dook seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Hello haters from LA to New York, punk her up
and kiss hour as Astros. Oh my goodness, this is
Sports Talk seven ninety Home of your Astros still twenty
seventeen chaps.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
No doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Sean Salisbury show continued right now.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
I like the Red River shootout there you go. But yeah,
I would imagine that they're trying to get some love
in Oklahoma. Yeah. Have you ever been to Oklahoma? I
have plenty of times, many a day, as they say,
many a time. Yeah, Well it's good. Started with Luke Colmbs. Yeah.
Not a good, not a good, uh offensive performance from

(14:37):
the uh Stros last night? What does Stros come before
the Bros. Yeah, they come before the Stros before Bros,
Stros before us. Well, I'm asking, what's what's the order?
There's I just gave you three Stros, Bros or hose.
Well how's that order?

Speaker 10 (14:53):
Go?

Speaker 5 (14:54):
Is it Bros before Stros? Yeah? That is yeah? Yeah.
Is it hose before Stros? Could be? It could be
could but it's always bros before hose. So right, so
basically bros dominate both. It's always bros first, correct, boys, man,
broskis Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, so Bros before Stros and okay,

(15:16):
what's next? Interesting? It depends on what whoa?

Speaker 6 (15:21):
Because look, man, the strows are going to be here regardless,
demn hose aren't.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
Sometimes. Look they're like tax cabs in New York, bro
plenty of them. Yeah, they just you know, WHOA that's
harsh on the zoids man. Well, so as triple E,
is it bros before all of it?

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (15:41):
It is this. Okay, So then it goes hose or strows. Oh,
he goes Bros, Stros and hose playing strings and audibobiles. Yeah,
I'm gonna say Bros first, Stros second, Damn I'm out

(16:02):
on them. Hose third. Now get that the hose turn
into your your your main squeeze, it is different roster. Yeah, exactly.
If that turns into your life, Zoid goes from to
your to your number, your your MVP. Uh huh, then
all of a sudden, it's it's Zoid's before wait whatever
you want to put in there. Yeah, but the real

(16:24):
question is when it's that. What's more? Is it bros
Before your domain the squeeze or is it squeeze first?
Got to be squeezed first?

Speaker 11 (16:32):
Right?

Speaker 6 (16:32):
You got you got front row diamond club seats right
behind home plate, or you got a date with a
twelve out of ten that you've been chasing for a while.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
You can't have You got to have one or the other.
The date. Isn't that the game? I mean just in life,
like if you're just anybody. Yeah, that's an easy decision. Yeah,
you go with the twelve out of ten? Yeah, Well,
while she's sitting on the couch with me, I can
watch it on TV. Okay, well it's not right. You
can call it date. Yeah, but no watch it right
or wherever we go? Right, are can listen of Steve

(17:05):
Sparks on the radio. Damn right Sports TX seven on
your home thrashles baseball. Well we're friendship, right, I ain't
no loving Klahomaus sounds just like him, Sure it does. Yeah,
I need a grit. You gotta smoke a grid to
get that hoarse voice going on. I don't think he

(17:27):
smokes grits though, I don't think so either. Yeah. I
love Lucas combs up good though. Man, So it is bros. Really,
it's bros. It's of course, yeah, but them stros better
pick it up. So do you think that the Do
you think women put their girls ahead? No question, they do. Sure.
But here here's the interesting thing about that. Have you
ever noticed certain people men and women? Yeah, makes for

(17:50):
a good conversation. Maybe maybe we push it to fry,
but it makes for a good makes a good conversation now, huh,
Because when football season and baseball are going together, it's
hard to try to fit everything, and it's hard to
get you know, strows before hopes. You know what I'm
saying is that that person you ever had, that person
that's a buddy more of a buddy when they don't

(18:11):
have a significant other. Uh yeah, Or if that guy,
that guy or that girl who completely disappear, Yeah, from
everybody's life when their relationship on Facebook goes from it's
complicated two, I'm in love correct, and then about a
week and a half later, Yeah, somehow they're not love anymore,
and it's back to being complicated or single. Yeah. Yeah,

(18:32):
that's my favorite when somebody puts on there. I found
the one forty seven times and by the forty eighth
a couple of those saying thank you. Uh uh wolf.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
But you know what I've noticed, it's not always like
like the ones that I'm thinking of on Facebook. It's
the women I know. I know a girl that I
swear she has a new man like every three months.
Oh yeah, but but I mean it's always the same post. Yeah,
love of my life pushes me.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
We do this my person, Yes, my person, that's oh,
you're you're my person talking. You're my person until next
week when you say something stupid and you drop my ass.
And then then then and and then the next guy
is your person?

Speaker 6 (19:09):
Yeah, and then and then like two months later, she
she changes her profile picture and it's not her and
the dude anymore. All the pictures are gone, and she's like,
f men, men are dumb.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
I think I'll be I think I'll stay dating women
now right, yeah, but the best is there in love.
First of all, it starts this way Facebook, all over
every day or on a social media post and every day.
Then it gets to there's personal okay, yeah, what's going on?
And then it goes from initially and it's dudes too now,

(19:39):
but it will go initially from okay, now I get it,
and then it comes by two weeks, Yeah I didn't
trust her, didn't trust her anymore? Well if something happened
and they're no longer left, And then for about two
more weeks are on there, and then the posts become
shirt off. If you're the dude. You're at the gym,
the girls at a g string on the beach saying
I living my best life? Catch happy? Oh yeah, catch

(20:03):
it not feeling so yeah? And then all of a sudden,
and now I don't know if it's a fake back
rudder or green screen, because they are like eight different
places in three days, and they're like five thousand miles apart,
like and hoping, and they're like, you know, what didn't work,
But they're hoping that the person sees it, who sees it,
who sees it, goes and tells the guy they just
walked up every vice versa. She's not bothered. Yeah, she's

(20:25):
in the mouth dives right now, she's Oh yeah, that's
that's how you judge me when a friend stays away
for a while. It has been on your ass all
the time. He man, we got to get and then
you don't hear Oh man, yeah found I'm in love.
Yeah my person. I got my person for the fourteenth
time this year. Come on, man, love your style. Just
be be by yourself for a little bit. Yeah, it's

(20:46):
okay to be alone, right, that's that's a that's a
powerful feeling. But it's also okay to have your girl
or your guy and still keep your friendly You can
still go out. Yeah, you're allowed bring them along. Right,
what's a big deal? Right? So yeah, that that makes
me laugh. It's it's it's complicated until well, another guy
comes in and pays me more attention, the extra, another

(21:06):
girl comes and pays more. I love her person, she's
my person. They're just catch flights on fielding. She's my person.
A week and a half later, she's no longer my person,
no longer my person. He's no longer my person. I'm
going to focus on myself. A month later, I found
the one. Yeah, that's it. Hey, listen, I'm focusing on me. Okay,
It's just on me until, of course I get invited

(21:29):
to the Maldives and then I'm headed down. Then you're
my person. Yeah, there you go. Oh, by the way,
here I am. I'm in Fiji. Yeah, jeez. How did
you get the Fiji from the usc LSU game in
like eight minutes in Vegas? Yeah? Hey, I Fiji. Where
are you at now? Sit next to the Eiffel Tower

(21:50):
righteel like you were just on the beach. What is this?
Where in the world is Carmen san Diego? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (21:56):
Exactly. All right, let's let's get to break. We'll hear
from Justin Verlander talk about the lack of execution on
his pitches.

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Speaker 4 (23:35):
Com and with the The Sean Salisbury show continued.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
Early in the ballgame, obviously giving up a home run
to Nick Castillanos. He gets the loss on that game
and the Stroz lows five nothing. Sean, how concerned are
you with this stretch of stretch of schedule? And then
also you look at the Mariners. It's a three and
a half game lead, but they have a much much

(24:04):
easier schedule.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
Well, I trust the astros more because I've seen the
movie before. But last year's movie has nothing to do
with this year's movie. But I know that the experience
of being in these situations does it does matter, It
doesn't matter. I mean, there's still a majority of the
guys on this roster who've seen the movie as well
and lived it should I say, an acted in it.
So I trust the astros more. And I'd much rather

(24:27):
be three and a half in front than three and
a half behind, Yeah, because we know what ten behind
feels like. But I think there's also that concern of
the Mariners getting back to the way they started at
the beginning, and if they run on one of those
type of runs, then the Astros are going to have
to be I mean, I have to get gear up,
make sure that their starters are giving them length and
that they're not beating down a bullpen. And with six starters,

(24:49):
you limit your bullpen because you got an extra starter
and you got a one less body in the bullpen.
What's that's seven of them now, and so some can
get overused, and you want to guard against that because
the last thing you want for those guys we talk,
which is the irony of it. We want our everyday
players to play every day and get all their at
bats and play. I don't need inning after inning for
the bullpen. So when they get to the postseason, they

(25:10):
got nothing left in the tank. But you don't have
the luxury of saving them, right because three and a
half games, you blink and it's down to one and
a half. So it is that that's the probably that's
the nice thing when you jump out in and you've
got a ten game lead, coming into situation like this
where you get the luxury of both. So I'm concerned

(25:30):
because the schedule you're tired. It's you wear out. And
sometimes when you're playing teams that aren't supposed to beat
you and you play average, you can still pull it out.
You don't play average and beat Philadelphia or Cincinnati or
Kansas City or even Arizona. You can't play average and
beat those teams. And so, and the thing that's got
to be the big concern is, Okay, they don't hit
as well. Yet there's been times that the Astros haven't

(25:53):
hit the way that we've wanted them to. Yet you
look at the numbers and they put up good numbers.
Is that Seattle's pitching to sustain them. They can they
can win some low scoring games even when their bats
aren't going well. So I would expect if you, if
you're an Astros fan, I would gear up for the
fact that at some point in time the GAP's going
to close. You would think with this schedule, yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
Oh yeah, you would think, yeah, I think so, uh,
when one of the guys are gonna have to count
on is justin Verlander five innings, seven hits, four and runs,
three k's, one walk. Here's Verlander on some execution in
pitch selection last night.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you look at Baltimore and.

Speaker 12 (26:33):
Could have easily won all those games, if not three
out of the four, and so you know, you don't
want to sit here, and you know, judge a couple
of games that you know, we were tied in the
ninth last night, and you know, and then this one
obviously wasn't a you know, this is a type of
game that you know you're probably gonna lose nine times
out of ten.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
So you know, I would say six five out of
the last.

Speaker 12 (26:56):
Six games, we realistickly could have won all of them.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
We just didn't.

Speaker 12 (27:02):
So you keep putting yourself in a position to win
baseball games, and more often than not, you you win them.
You know, sometimes he stretches the you know, one one
pitch doesn't go your way, one ball doesn't bounce your way,
one you.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
Know whatever, you know, and it's the difference you win.
You're losing in these close ball games.

Speaker 12 (27:17):
So against tough opponents, Yeah, I feel like we've played
pretty damn well.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
Just all right, so that that's my bad. I misspoke
on that. So that's Verlin.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
You're talking about the stretch of games and obviously the
games you you probably could have won against the Orioles.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Obviously last night is a little bit different, but you
can say that probably should have went. There's games you
shouldn't have won and you did win, and there's games
I mean, that's that's that's I think that's the nature
of sports. Yeah, that's the way it works. And you
and I think he went along basically intimating what we
did is you can't you let a game close, So
you can't you don't keep it close. Teams like Philadelphia

(27:51):
are not gonna they're gonna bury you. He didn't say them,
you know, Oh yeah, they'll make it a lot tougher
on you than a team that's a one deep on
a pitching staff, and then there's rambling around to stay
afloat that in Philly. No, Philly is a team that
can beat you ten to one, but can also beat
you two to one. Because there's frontline pitching so good
in their bullpen, they are going to be hanging right there.

(28:12):
The teams in the National League are going to have
all they can handle from that team.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
Yeah, here's here's Verlainer talking about the at bats of
that facing that two three four of Philadelphia.

Speaker 12 (28:22):
You know, heyte gets swing on a on a decently
located slider. You know, take your cap. You know, I
thought I had Turner there, didn't get the call, and
then you know it's a good decent swinging and hit
the ball just in the right spot. Harper Bluke swan
in and then uh, you know, one bad pitch and

(28:45):
a bad spot. Unfortunately, I know, I wish I could
add that one back. But uh, you know, yeah, you know,
especially uh Coning and Sonola when he's when he's going well, obviously,
you know it's gonna be a tight game. You know,
once you go up the one, uh, you know you
gotta uh you got a hold in their Nick took

(29:06):
a great swing on a on a pish that hung
a little bit, and that was a buggin unfortunately.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
M m m mmmmm. You wish you had it back,
and you miss a pitch. Sometimes guys don't make you pay.
The Philly lineup makes you pay. And like you said,
he took a good swing at a pitch and and
hammered it. And the way Nola was going last night,
you won't get in any leeway and five nothing win.
Rarely do the Astros get shut out. Yeah, they.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
They faced Aaron Nola, who is obviously really good. Seven ins,
four hits, nowhere runs, six k's, one walk.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
And then today he could have finished the thing if
they wanted him to. Yeah, if for Nola Orland six,
what'd you get? You win the bet? Damn? Did you
go over Land? M Yeah, give us the right hander. Damn.
They're freaking ariety, damn. Yeah. And then today they face

(30:08):
Teijuan Walker, former Mariner, former maybe diamondback. I think it
was with the Diamondbacks, Mariner diamondback. He's uh, Tejuan Walker
is a he's got some stuff now Yep.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
Seattle, Arizona, Seattle, Toronto, New York Mets, Philadelphia, Phillies.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
There you go, Teijan, that's gotta be racist. It is
triple instead of Taijuan. You go, you know your nose
because Tijuan Juan Juan Walker's his name stands at six
four and thirty five. Yeah, well, here's what I suggest

(30:51):
for him. First off, he's a baseball player, so that
ain't happening, Okay. I just kid, so that ain't happened.
I don't expect him to be too long winded. I
think that that'll be handled. And if he can't get
through the first inning, he's done, well, yeah, you can
start his load management before the fight starts. What do

(31:11):
you say, he's what he got by ass? Yeah, tell him,
tell him to himself a favor. Bring a couple of
his buddies along. Whe Bryce Harper at your ass. Bryce
Harper doesn't want Brice Harper doesn't don't want to know. No,
you don't want to smoke. He's had a couple of
pillow fights. Didn't he throw a helmet at a guy? Probably? Yeah,

(31:32):
and it was like a horrible throw. Look at you
came out brought smoking six TEI Juan Walker's kicking your ass.
Sure it's Tan. Yeah, well you know those of us
who don't that's got to be raised. I'm just putting
respect on Taijuan. It's Taiwan exactly. But why do you
got to hesitate? Why do your nose got to.

Speaker 13 (31:48):
Know?

Speaker 5 (31:48):
I gotta scrunch up and like like like you're like
you're acting in a movie with Cheech and Chong. Yeah,
they won they want Walker Seawan. He's coming to ask. Yeah, man,
they don't want to come into my town. They call
himj to tell Tajuan, uh huh. Just keep pitching. You
don't want that ass probably.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
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avoid that sweep. Look at the lineup that's next.

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Speaker 2 (33:57):
Core Sean Salisbury, A Sea Salthbury Show.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
John Bryn and Tripley talking astros. They lose, they look
to avoid the sweep.

Speaker 6 (34:07):
Today it's got to the Falloune see I Brad's connection
a little bit better?

Speaker 5 (34:10):
Brandon, good morning, Good morning?

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Is that better?

Speaker 5 (34:13):
That's great?

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Brandon?

Speaker 5 (34:14):
How you doing? I'm all right, I'm we need to win. Indeed,
truer thing has never been smoking, Brandon. I love your
how precisely, precise and dynamic it is. We need to win, yes,
so that truer, truer words have never been spoken. Love
it so, you know, Brian, that's what I did today?

(34:37):
What'd you do with Brandon?

Speaker 14 (34:38):
I won?

Speaker 5 (34:39):
You've already played a game this morning, kind of man
early wake up call, winning double header for him? Maybe today, Brandon,
what time do you wake up this morning?

Speaker 1 (34:52):
I don't It was like after.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
Bye or I don't know, five o'clock.

Speaker 6 (35:02):
All right, Brandon, I need you to do it a
favorite tomorrow morning, you know, after the Ashles get this
win and you call us back tomorrow morning.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
We're gonna want to know what time you woke up. Okay,
can you do that for us?

Speaker 6 (35:17):
He got a early morning, go and play. You already
got a game in. I know that's on your win, Brandon.
We'll talk to you tomorrow. Thank you, appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
But he won. Man, that's an early wake up call,
and that's a early win. Put it this way, it
appears that Brandon does more by eight o'clock than most.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Yeah, get up her little breakfast. Knock a couple of homers.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
Not everybody like you wants to eat like four pounds
of food before seven. You got you gotta eat, big deal.
You got to feed the beast. You gotta exactly. That's
what I feed the beast. Yeah, we had some meal
prep this morning, not yet though, I mean we got
it here. Ill prep or meal prep? Meal? You're illing
right now? Right, I'm milling? Yeah? Million. What did you say,
ling like a villain or chilling like a villain?

Speaker 15 (36:03):
Ill?

Speaker 5 (36:03):
Aren't you?

Speaker 7 (36:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (36:05):
They Yeah, a little brecky pooh. May you get a
video game in? No, Brandon already won a game. Yeah,
Brandon did, Man, maybe on the sticks later. You never
know is that we're calling knows? Yeah, maybe on the sticks. Well,
according to you, if you refer to cigars like you do,
what we call them sticks, cigars, gar, you know, all

(36:27):
the things that people call cigars, those of us who
smoke them. Then there's you guys who mix it in
once in a while. But you yourself, I can't say guys,
because you're the only guy right who calls cigars poles.
So you called but you call yeah, yeah you are,
you're the only guy. Matter of fact, guy, buddies of mine,
if sent me messy to say, is he got an
infatuation with poles? I said, I don't know a flag pole, uh,

(36:51):
cigar or just.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
Your buddies obviously know what I'm talking about. So no,
they're very familiar with smoking. They're like, no, would you
let me know what it is? I said, only every day?
But you call those controller sticks, right?

Speaker 7 (37:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (37:05):
Once you call that a pole, say get on the
pole because it's the sticks man. Well, what you call
a cigar a pole? Right, because that's what it's called.
But it should be called a stick or a cigar.
So if you're going to call sticks a pole a pole,
this is just semantics here, exactly. I'm not going to
sit on a pole. You don't sit on a controller.

(37:28):
You play the sticks. Well you got two of them, right, controllers? Yeah?
Or poles? Who's counting? See what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (37:37):
I just think that your buddies, First of all, they're
very familiar with smoking poles. That's why they're like, you know,
trying to give me a hard time about it.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
Yeah, no, no hard time, Just uh, what flies more?
I've always asked you what flies more? Would you walk
in and just yell at hey.

Speaker 6 (37:56):
Well, I'm going to scott Poles are on me smoke
away about being Scottsdale this this weekend.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
So I'll try it out. See what happens. Yeah, I
think you should. I got a couple of places you
can go that you should blurt it out. Okay, see
how that works for you? Yeah? Why not? Okay? Cool?
Labor Day weekend opening college football. That's what we call
the thing on the sticks, right on the stick, but
isn't don't they have a don't don't do that hand
motion over here? What's that thing? A joystick?

Speaker 7 (38:23):
Right?

Speaker 5 (38:23):
Yeah? That that's what you're on the joystick. It's it's
a controller with I know I know the controller. But
but there are these games that have a joystick, right. Uh, no,
you used to.

Speaker 16 (38:33):
They used to.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Yeah, back in the day. The joysticks don't exist anymore.

Speaker 6 (38:35):
Not not really, I don't think so, unless you're like
got a full on you know, like simulator.

Speaker 11 (38:40):
Right.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
I see you. I see you stay at old school
with a joystick. Yeah, I actually you like that? Why
are you looking? I mean, I see you really diving
into a good joystick at old School flight simulator. I
wanted the hell out of that joystick. I know you will.

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Speaker 5 (40:57):
Jay Rodd helicopter pilot for the HPD. That's pretty bad.
Jay Rodd's one correct to being an awesome helicopter pilot.
Going to old town Fox there, I keep a locker
in there, and no you can't. Yeah, what the hell man?
I can't? What do you mean?

Speaker 13 (41:12):
No?

Speaker 5 (41:12):
You make you? Uh hey, I'm here. My name is
Sean Salisbury. Who wants to smoke a pool with me?
That's what you do in there? I think you should
do that. That's what you should do after you get shot.
And who say, Who's who's whooping my sacon? Who's whooped
my ass while I walk in there? Who wants some

(41:33):
of this? You can go all stay with them on him?
Yeah no, but yeah, keep it. He's right, great place
indoor there, okay. And he told he made a suggestion
on a cigar. I can give you a million of those,
but I like it. He's He's exactly why Fox cigars
are good. So go in and out indoor outdoor, great
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(41:54):
nice and you know they'll have a myster I think
outside if you're out there, sna be probably want to
stay inside. But it's a nice place to be a member.

Speaker 6 (42:01):
I like, Yeah, there's gonna be like a billion degrees
out there this weekend.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
Dry heat. It's a dry heat. Yeah, good luck, thanks,
good luck. I got your itinerary set for you. Yeah,
long Labor Day weekend. Looking forward to it, man, I
mean Monday. I'm the mayor there. We're off Monday, right, well,
if we're not we are now if we if we're
supposed to work, I hope that they know that this
seat will be empty on Monday. I will not be

(42:27):
here too much to do. It's Labor Day. Of course
we're not working. But yeah, I got the mayor there.
That's right. You know what I'm saying. Just ask me.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
Yeah, I'm gonna you're gonna love it. I can call
myself Sean Salisbury all weekend. That'll either get you a
hurt or dude, that'll give you free over the place.
A matter of fact, you might be the governor. Oh yeah,
what's up? I could pull a dude.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
I know you can't work, you can't there, you go
but yeah, no, you're gonna love it.

Speaker 8 (42:54):
Man.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
It's good weekend. I know where, I know the area
you're staying and it's a good area too. Never been
to Scotstale, so this will be my first time. My
bachelor is my cousin's bachelor party. This is really your
first time there. Yeah, so I've been to Tempe, I've
been to Phoenix. I've never been actually to Scottsdale. And
this in the area standing is nice. It's centrally located.
You're gonna and I've been to May not come back
probably not a month from now. That weather's gonna be

(43:15):
a perfections.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
And I go back to Scottsdale for Halloween weekend for
another bachelor party. I'm in like three weddings this fall.
I'm in three weddings. Not like I'm going to three weddings.
I'm in three weddings and one of them I'm I'm
the best man, and then I'm in another one in March.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
All your boys getting married, man, And.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
You know what, this is actually kind of a cool
thing for me outside of my cousin, all my.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
Friends afterwards, I've all been in or on their seconds,
like or not do it? You're these are kids I
used to coach and have asked me to come back
and be in their wedding. Awesome. It's pretty pretty cool
for me, But it also makes you feel old. We
are hanging there though, yeah, compared to a nineteen year
old year old or well they tell So that's the
crazy thing.

Speaker 6 (43:53):
When I first started coaching, these guys were only like
six years younger than me because I was in college.
So it's either come home and playing the car with
young Legue, which was a bunch of juco guys and
uh D two excuse me, D two D three guys,
orgo coach Bandido to make like four grand as a
unemployed college kid living at home with no bills, no brands,

(44:14):
big for especially especially on dollar twenty five beer night
over at the local Big Texas Man. So yeah, I
developed some really cool relationships and these these guys are,
uh they're like little brothers to me.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
Cool. And now they're like all of them are getting
married all the same day. Where's the spring one getting
married here? And in the spring you said you have
one of the spring Yeah, in March. That's that's going
to be in Bernie. Bernie outside of San Antonio, where's
his bachelor party? Scottsdale Halloween all three weekend? Oh that's it. Yeah,
so he's doing a bachelor party six months before he's married. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (44:45):
So I got a bachelor party in Scottsdale, then next
then a month after this weekend, I've got another one
in Scottsdale. And sandwiched in between that, I go to
Lake Charles for another bachelor party. Nice, yeah, awesome, And
there's the one yeah, well yeah, it'll be fun though.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
Oh yeah, yeah. You know it's when they all call
you around and say they're on their second marriage and
they say, we're just we're we're going I don't want
to wish that on them one.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
And make sure you're doing it the right way or yeah,
and then then next thing you know, they're gonna be
you know, hey, uh, we're pregnant. Come on to the
baby shower and you'll say, FM, kids, exactly what I'll say.
I'll bring the big meme with me. Let's talk to
Alex seven one three, two five seven, Alex, good.

Speaker 18 (45:30):
Morning, more's it going this morning?

Speaker 5 (45:33):
We're awful? Bar here, Hey Thathros lock I not, I'm
right there with you. Cancel the parade, Alex not yet,
not yet, Yeah, man, cancel it. Yeah, he's he's such,
he's such a Dow Jones or Alex up and then
with you know here, yeah up and yeah it'd be great. Hey, kids,
we lost, we're done with the Little League championship. Oh

(45:55):
we won, but hike the Little League parade? The what
are we fifteen? You now?

Speaker 7 (46:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (46:01):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Ran.

Speaker 18 (46:03):
If you take the negativity, then kids, I feel sorry
for them.

Speaker 5 (46:06):
No, man, we're no. Do we never do that? You can.

Speaker 6 (46:09):
They're probably listening right now on their way to school. Honestly,
they know I'm a glass half full guy. But honestly,
when it comes to these Astros, they lose, cancel the parade,
we're done.

Speaker 18 (46:20):
I think I think they're gonna win tonight. They have
a habit of in the late in the season losing
too in a row and then winning the last one
to avoid this.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Yeah, I got the parade still on, Grade still on
and Katie, Yeah it's on four FM, fourteen sixty three.

Speaker 18 (46:36):
Yeah, absolutely, no, I just uh, I don't know.

Speaker 15 (46:41):
I'm just trying to spread some positivity around here.

Speaker 8 (46:44):
Man.

Speaker 18 (46:44):
I think the Astros are gonna be okay. I do
think if they don't snap out of their nonsense pretty quick.
They ain't even gonna make the postseason because someone's gonna
come out of nowhere and get them if they don't
get together. But uh, I think they're gonna be all right.
I think they're gonna figure it out. And that's pretty
much all I wanted to say. Man, I've been listening
to y'all for about a year and a half on

(47:04):
a regular base. That love the show. It is the
highlight of my morning because right after I get done
listening y'all, I actually have to do some sort of
work and this is the highlight of my morning. So
I appreciate y'all, and what y'all do. Y'all have a
good Labor Day weekend, and thankfu.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
One, thanks appreciate Thanks to be safe. I like his style.
Yeah we'll go yep, start to Roger? Is thatpen to Roger?
Morning Fellas.

Speaker 19 (47:29):
I just got a couple of things about Justin Berlander.
I know he's just trying to get the sea legs back,
and h what do we know.

Speaker 16 (47:35):
About father time?

Speaker 19 (47:36):
Sean undefeated absolutely hundred percent. So with that in mind,
I was just thinking, where does he really fit in
this rotation? Because I'm not putting him. I'm not putting
him ahead of Arrogatty or Hunter Brown Promper. Really I'm not.
I just, uh, I'm thinking of I'm thinking he's, you know,

(47:58):
maybe a maybe fourth man rotation, and I'm talking moving forward.
I'm talking about after.

Speaker 7 (48:03):
He gets his legs underneath him.

Speaker 8 (48:05):
I just don't see it.

Speaker 19 (48:06):
I mean, I see a guy who's a battler. He's
a workhorse, he's a bulldog, he's all that. But you know,
he's just older, and uh, he's just not He's just
not dominating that now like he used to. I you know,
I know he's good enough to go with a six
man rotation to get some guys some rest. But on
that fifth when you look at at five in a row,

(48:28):
I just don't five starters.

Speaker 8 (48:30):
I don't see him.

Speaker 16 (48:31):
I see him as a number five.

Speaker 8 (48:33):
That's all I had those.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
Thank you, Roger. What do you think it's Justin Verlander? Okay,
I think Roger's point is Justin Verlander, with all due respect,
he loves him a great career, but his father time
kicked in. Or you can't expect more than five innings

(48:54):
and that's what you're gonna get, And you shouldn't be
your one, two or three starter. This is his second
outing back from being out. I'm just I see Rogers.
I understand Roger's point. I think that there's gonna be
plenty that disagree with that. Did I don't want to
think that Roger, I don't think is suggesting that he's spent,

(49:15):
but suggesting that you're not. That he's not one of
your three best pitchers right now? Is he?

Speaker 6 (49:20):
Uh No, he's not. That's respectfully to justin Verland. But
he's still justin Verland.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
So do you get the lifetime achievement if they've like
playoffs started tomorrow, he still gets one of the first
three starts because he's justin Verlander. Yes, and you expect
him to grind through it? Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 6 (49:35):
I would say if it was right now they start
the playoffs, it's fromber it's Hunter Brown, it's Justin Verlander,
and it's use Kakuchi.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
All right, let's just say for talking's sake, and I
know how the rotation goes, it's three three Alcus get
the World Series and two guys are available, and he's
one of them. Who's the two guy? Okay, we'll have
there's been enough rest because they use guys that they
in a game to get ahead. They pitched a bunch
of different guys, right, yeah, so they're all available, all

(50:06):
hands on. You got to start game seven of the
World of A ALCS to get to the World Series
and from ber Kakuchi, Hunter Brown and him are all fresh.
Who gets the ball? You can save that, you can
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Speaker 5 (52:24):
You know caller and a good friend of the show
said he just doesn't father time they caught up to
Justin Verlanders. His thought, now I number two starts in.
That's his thought, and I think great respect Roger has
for him. So I pose the question. I'll pose it
to you when it comes to Justin Verlander. If it
was a Game seven in the ALCS he had to

(52:45):
win it, or the last game of the season, in
a six man rotation, he had two or three of
your frontline starters available to go. Who starts single elimination
gotta win it, whether it's win the last game to
get in the play postseason, or it's to clinch a
playoffs series to go to the World Series, and two

(53:06):
or three your friend like the Kakouchi Hunter Brown from
ber Verlander all available. Are you with Roger who said
fourth or fifth starter? Or are you opposed to that?
Or with that and say yep, or you'd oppose that,
Say no, no, no, it's justin Verlander. You've got to start

(53:28):
him if he's available for the win, who would you start?
And we're going to hit that with you, Brian next,
I was asking the question to the folks, because single elimination,
what decision do you make? Do you give the Lifetime
Achievement award? And a guy who's a grinder and been
so good and knows how to get out of stuff

(53:49):
back of the baseball card, well, the front of the
baseball car is pretty damn good too, right, But at
this stage of the game, it's must win.

Speaker 6 (53:58):
And his another thing that you know, we've discussed too
is his lack of production in the postseason.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
He's had moments, but he's had some time tough times
as well. Who would you run out there? That's where
were going to discuss this. Yeah, and that's seven seven
ninety Hey that I think it's a difficult decision. I
think out of RECEI and you can't make the decision
just out of respect. You got to make decision out
of respect. What you trust the most respects one thing,

(54:29):
but you also have to respect if the team you
got to, regardless of feelings, you would have to start
who gives you the best chance to win. It's it's simple. Now.
When you do that, people say, well, listen, this is
all the hypothetical. What if they say, well, we got
all hands on deck, it doesn't matter. I'm not talking

(54:50):
about I understand that who you're running out there first?
Who's your guy to clinch a seventh game or a
deciding game, or and or a a single elimination to
get into the postseason? And I just wonder, are you
worth Roder who thinks he's the father time And that's
no disrespect to Justin Verlander that it's time to make

(55:10):
him the fourth or fifth starter, or is it still
Justin Verlander that if you have him available, you've got
to run him out there?

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Speaker 4 (57:47):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

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Speaker 6 (57:57):
Time for the steak out here on the Sean Salisbury Show, Sean,
Bryan Ann Tripoli with you this morning. Coming up at
nine to thirty, Astros general manager Dana Brown is going
to join the show. CHROs look to avoid the sweep
at the hands of the Phillies. Three h five pm,
First Pitch, two pm on Deck Show right here on
seven on your home for Astros. Baseball Texans making some

(58:17):
roster cuts. Astros reportedly signing Jason Hayward yesterday.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
Yeah, I think that some Dodger fans were bummed that
he was let go. The j Hay kid. Yeah, got
some postseason experience. I read where some Atlanta Braves fans
wanted him back.

Speaker 6 (58:35):
I saw that. I saw that they were in like
discussions to get him back in.

Speaker 5 (58:38):
I think this is a good get. I think it
is too the numbers are down, but look, man, solid postseason.
I mean, just a guy who's been he's seen it,
get right, They've been there, done that. Yeah, this is
a good get, man, it is. I Like I said,
if if he doesn't move the needle for you, one thing,
he does give you postseason chops. Yeah. And a guy
who's a KG veteran who's played some good baseball, I'm

(59:01):
good with it. What's the risk, Well, there is no risk.

Speaker 11 (59:04):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
And I'm sure he can hit better than Chas McCormick.
We like to call him Chasmo. On here, why don't
you put respect on Chasmo. Well, he's not very good
right now. That's a fact. That's okay, it's a fact, Jack, Jack.
That's the facts. Jack. That's the fact. Jack. Name that
name that movie Goodies Stripes, Billy Murray, I've never seen it.

(59:33):
That's the fact. Jack of course you haven't seen it.
Why would I ask you? Yeah? I know exactly. Why
did you ask me? Unbelievab Yeah, I think Jason Hayward's good.
Get I do, hopefully can uh? Is he the difference
between a World Series championship or not? Maybe not? But
who knows? KG Wiley and postseason experience. I'm in. Yeah,

(59:53):
it's a good guy. I like it. Yeah. Yeah? What
is it? The risk? Fire rewards?

Speaker 20 (59:57):
No?

Speaker 5 (59:57):
Question? Seven? Seven?

Speaker 7 (59:59):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
The question is elimination game in the playoffs? Who are
you starting on the mountain? Justin verlind or Hunter Brown
from er Valdez. You say, Kakucie whoever?

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
And it's in it. It's all on the tam and
let me just say this. Then, once you decide who
to start, the other three guys aren't available to pitch
and relief. Does that make you're going to your regular
bullet piggyback? Right? This isn't give me an any each guy.
It's your starter. You gotta win, gotta get deep, bullpen
needs not. I mean, this is it and the other

(01:00:30):
three guys arms are worn out, but they're not worn
out when you're making the decision. It's just once you've
made the decision. You don't get to use them, right,
So give me one guy to start against the tomorrow
in it's Game seven.

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
Check out the phone lines start with Courtney Courtney, good morning.

Speaker 16 (01:00:44):
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
The same for me.

Speaker 18 (01:00:46):
It has He's been reliable, he's been dominant, he's been better.
Berlanders been hitting mess or missing hit when he's not injured.

Speaker 16 (01:00:55):
I just can't.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
I couldn't trust that. Who'd you say you cut out?
Who'd you say got you?

Speaker 6 (01:01:05):
Hunter Brown, preci appreciate it, Cordy, thank You's talk to Rob, Rob?

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
Who are you pitching?

Speaker 21 (01:01:14):
Good morning guys. Uh So I would definitely not be
pitching JV and Sean you kind of stole my thunder.
I had a little bit of a hot take that
I was going to spend on this for you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Uh.

Speaker 21 (01:01:27):
JV, first of all, he does not have the greatest
playoff history and father time not being on his side
being you know.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
That just is what it is.

Speaker 21 (01:01:35):
And you know, kind of like with Roger, with all
due respects of JV, because I love the guy since
two thousand and five when he came up, you just
he can't be your guy anymore. He's he's just not
the same, and that's fine. He's you know, he's he's old,
he's getting up there. But the hot take side of
this is when you guys get in the playoffs and
you start pushing and you see a lot of these
teams go to a five or even four man rotation

(01:01:58):
if they can get by with it. I would not
be upset to see them.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
And I know what.

Speaker 16 (01:02:02):
Jav's going to say.

Speaker 21 (01:02:03):
JV's going to say hell no to him if they
ever try and present this to him. But if they
were to make him an open guy that long relief,
I would trust him over any one of our other
bullpen guys. But Fromber would be my number one option.
He's been our workhorse his last ten or so games.
He's been an absolute stud. He can get you one
hundred pitches in easy, and he's the guy that's going
to get it done.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Hard to disagree with that, hard to disagree. You got one.

Speaker 6 (01:02:31):
So i I'm not starting Justin Verlander, not starting Yusai Kakushi.
It comes down to Hunter Brown or fromber Valdez. For me,
I think based upon the turnaround of Hunter Brown and
how well he is pitched, I lean towards Hunter Brown.
I know from Valdez has that experience. He pitched really

(01:02:55):
well in the twenty twenty two postseason. He pitched atrocious
in the twenty twenty three postseason. Fromber Valdez is numbers
four point two four e RA in the playoffs, ninety
two strikeouts, eighty and two thirds innings pitched. I'm gonna
have to give the nod to Hunter Brown and give
me the Deesel roll with it. Really, I'm gonna I'm

(01:03:16):
gonna yeah, I'm gonna trust the youth on this one.
Just based on how he's pitched this year. I'm gonna
go with Fromber. Yeah, just the.

Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
Way I'm gonna go with Fromber. Been there, ball stays down,
not worried about ball leaving the ballpark most of the time.
I think he's going confident right now. You've started him
in the last two or three years at the front line.
He's proven the second half of the We questioned, Okay,
where's his mental tought, what will happen through all this
when you need him the most. He's pulled through. Yeah,
he's pitched really good baseball. To me, it's a it's

(01:03:47):
an easy decision. Yeah, it's an easy and if if
Fromber were to fold up, then I'm just gonna trust
that I can get some depth out of my length
out of a bullpen and find a way to get
to a bray you and then the rest of the
dudes will take care of their business. It would be
fromer for me. And the decision when you asked me
would take about this is by the time it got
out of your mouth. And I would not have said

(01:04:07):
that three months ago. I would have said it two
months ago. Yeah, matter of fact, two months ago, I'm
not sure i'd have known. I'm not sure I known
because I was still seeing Hunter Brown client pitch great baseball.
We watched and all year long. If you'd ask this
the first two months of the season, Renelle Blanco would
have been your choice without question. Yet he and he

(01:04:28):
just is solid. But to me, I Frommer's got to
be your guy. And that's and and and it's a truth.
Is I Hunt Brown Wild probably second. JV would not
be my second starter. Yeah, he wouldn't. Considering where we
are right now. I'd have a hard time leaving him
out though, knowing who he is. But I'm not in
the Lifetime Achievement Award business, and I'd need him to

(01:04:52):
prove to me at that point that he would have
had to prove to me that Okay, he's back after
this injury. But listen, if you're just talking about grind
and mental toughness through the stuff, he's your guy. But
when you just talk about performance Frommer's got to be
the guy has to be. Yeah, And I think for me,
I lean towards Brown. I love some Hunter Brown because

(01:05:14):
he can be overpowered. That's that's where I get.

Speaker 6 (01:05:16):
But then also it's like fromer Valdez when he's on
Everything's down, down down, even if.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
He misses, right, if Hunter Brown misses upstairs, jvs. A
fly ball guy, right, we miss upstairs. Now, Hunter Brown's
more overpowering now, but even in ninety seven ninety eight
upstairs the good ones, Yeah, if they're not, they'll get you.

Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
And the way that the way I also look at
it is in the playoffs that leash is so short. Anyways,
give me five overpowering innings from Hunter Brown and then
get it to the bullpen or get it to six whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
But then also I feels like he got the head
for it. I know he's got the stuff for it.
Feels like he's got the head for it. I just
for an elimination game now, twelve months from now. Maybe
it's a different Maybe it is Hunter Brown right now.
I would have to go fromber Yeah, Fromber or Framber.
I go on fromber Valdez, not framber Valdez. Fromber Valdez.

(01:06:09):
What's his nickname?

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Frambino?

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
Okay, the Frambino? I like that. Yeah, first time I've
heard it. Fraanbino, isn't it?

Speaker 12 (01:06:17):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:06:17):
Uh? I really don't know what his real name? La Grassa? Okay,
Valdez is called La Grassa. Why can't you say La Grassa?
Say it again, La Grassa. That's gotta be La Grassa,
La Grassa. See say with me, La Grassa? Well, were

(01:06:38):
teaching class here with me? Let's go. You got why.
That's why he's got the latinos after it. That's why
he's triple.

Speaker 6 (01:06:48):
Yeah. How was that going with that chick that you
never talked to? That's a latin at the club.

Speaker 7 (01:06:53):
I don't talk to her no more. I told you
to talk to somebody in Dallas.

Speaker 5 (01:06:56):
Now, Oh that's right, big d what's her name? You
want to say that?

Speaker 15 (01:06:59):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
Pause? I just realized I said, big loud, you loud talking,
tripley tripley loud talking. Is Zoid protected? Is Zoid's day?
Protect the protected name. Somebody else will trying to roll
up in MOA's grass up in Big D. Yeah, you're
going up there this weekend. Maybe not this weekend, it's
Labor Day weekend though we got a nextra day off.

Speaker 9 (01:07:20):
Yeah, maybe not this week She's coming down here, I
think I think that's what she's trying to do.

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
Yeah, she's trying to come down here and down here
you Okay, Big D trying to come down to the
h dog h tad takeover.

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
Yeah, and relentless baby hashtag relentless pursuit of latinas for
triple e. Yeah, lagrasa lagrasa for from er Valdez. All right,
let's get to break and we got to talk about
the Jason Hayward report, uh that he is going to

(01:07:52):
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The Seong Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
Some interesting roster cuts for the Texans. Obviously a tough
day if you are an NFL player. We'll get into
that in the eight o'clock hour. The Astros prior to
the game yesterday, a report coming out in regards to
claiming somebody that was dfaed, and that is Jason Heyward.

(01:10:00):
Uh no official word from the Houston Astros. I would
assume that that is going to come out sometime today
because they're going to have to make a roster move
to add him to the forty man. I mean they've
been making transactions left and right. Brian McTaggart tweeting this
out Ashros are close to signing outfielder Jason Hayward, who

(01:10:20):
was released by the Dodgers. Hayward is thirty five years old.
He slash two eight, two eighty nine, three ninety three
with six homers and twenty eight RBIs in sixty three
games with Los Angeles. We hit on it briefly earlier, Sean,
that you think and I think that this is a
good pickup.

Speaker 5 (01:10:37):
I think it's a solid pickup. Now for some solid
doesn't move the needle. It does for me. You're looking
for bodies to give you some innings. You're looking for
a guy from that side of the plate who can
provide some stuff for you, a guy who can play
more than one outfield position, and a guy who's got
playoff experience. What's not to like? And in truth, thank you,

(01:10:57):
thank you very much. Like to thank the Academy, my
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I'd like to thank my agent,
my publicist, my marketing person, and you the fans and
the fans. This is for you, This for you, guys.
I'm going to smoke a pole for you guys. Later
on to my mom and dad. I want to thank
you and my family. You've been there for me. I

(01:11:21):
love you, guys. Applause one more time. I love you,
Thank you, thank you very much. And I won't. I won't.
Would you say today I'm gonna go smoke. Would you say?

Speaker 6 (01:11:30):
You said into the fans, I said, here's cheers to you.
You're gonna go smoke a pole later for them? A cigar,
got a light, a poll up. Yeah, but I just
want to thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
I think that Jason Hayward, okay, bottom of the seventh
do you need a key hit? Doesn't matter if the
picture is good against righties or lefties. You got two
guys left on a bench in the playoffs just to
get it. It's to win to move on. Okay, in
the playoffs. I love these Chasmo McCormick or Jason Heyward.

(01:11:57):
Jason Hayward. So you asked me, is it a good
move to bring him? Yes, there's your answer.

Speaker 13 (01:12:02):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:12:02):
I saw saw some of the fan base yesterday was like, oh,
it's Kyle Tucker. He's cooked, he's done.

Speaker 13 (01:12:06):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
I think this is just adding outfield depth because Chas
McCormick has been atrocious this season, and Jake Myers has
been up and down for the most part, not very good,
but he's got elite defense in center field. That's why
he continues to get reps and every now and then
he'll run into one.

Speaker 5 (01:12:21):
But Jason Hayward just adds depth.

Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
And also another report yesterday was that Chaz is going
to be sent down to Triple A.

Speaker 5 (01:12:28):
Give him a little breather down there. So okay, I
like the move.

Speaker 6 (01:12:32):
I know that the numbers are down, but we've seen
it time in and time out where players come here,
whether it's pitchers or positionive players, and they have pretty
good years after or pretty good time here with the
Astros after having bad statistics with their previous team.

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
You just need Hayward to get right and do some
things and pick up the change. The venue sometimes changes
your approach. Look at Kakuchi and also look what's happened
with him, And look at Ben Hamill. He had another
him last night. Ben. Let me tell you that guy's
That guy's like a feisty grinder.

Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
Gimme him and right field until Kyle Tucker comes back.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
Is it wrong for me to say and I hate
this because you know how I feel about Tucker. I'm
less optimistic than I was a month ago about him.

Speaker 6 (01:13:17):
Well, here we are, it's August twenty eighth, Labor Day
weekend is this weekend, and there's still no word outside
of he's doing better, he's doing drills, he's doing this,
he doesn't ran yet.

Speaker 5 (01:13:29):
When he runs the bases and he turns on that
that right leg of his then I'll be like, Okay,
I I'm, you know, ultimate optimist when it comes to this,
and and Kyle Tucker is I'm a huge fan. Has
nothing to do with Tucker, has to do with the injury.
And I know we were looked at in late June

(01:13:53):
only said this is different. Some's not right with this.
And I don't think you're going to see him in August.
And here we are September. And then when it said September,
is like, be disappointed if if it took that long?
Uh uh, I think that you probably now I hope
that I'm wrong. This may it may even sound a

(01:14:13):
little hyperbolic or hot taksh and I don't mean it
like that. I'm going to tell you now, if you
get Kyle Tucker for ten regular season games. You should count,
you should count your blessings. Yeah, and it's almost getting
to the point where my optimism about this. I listen
three months when it slams off your chin. How can
you if you're outside, because you're not in the building,
not knowing his movements on a regular talking to him.

(01:14:35):
How can you feel optimistic about this when somebody says, well,
he's taking some VP, but he's not run. How can
you feel optimistic? Because I don't see anybody giddy about
his return yet I hear people optimistic about it. You know,
Dan has been optimistic about it. Steve Sparks has, But
from my vantage point outside where we sit, not hearing
all the lingo that goes on in the talk and
the conversation, how can you convince me why I should

(01:14:58):
be optimistic? He hasn't seen a minor league start, and
it's Labor Day. He hasn't run the basis of hyperbolics.
It may sound you're not getting him to the last
week of September if you're lucky.

Speaker 6 (01:15:11):
I don't think it's a hot take. I said that
yesterday on my podcast. I did you on our podcast?
We didn't even discuss that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
No, I think I'm getting to the point with the
glass full or empty, that if you get him for
the postseason, you what a blessing. It'll bet, I'm the
question is how hot is he gonna get.

Speaker 6 (01:15:30):
I think personally that you will not see him back
in an Astros uniform until mid September to late September,
and you'd be lucky if you got three series from
before October starts.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
I'll take a bet with you if you want, you say,
September fifteenth, give me the over meaning later, I mean, realistically,
give me the over all. Right here, we are seven
or eight games maybe in the minor leagues. That is
that what Dan had told us, maybe six seven, eight
games or spot whatever it was. I'm like that, Okay.
So if he's okay, so Labor Day past, and now
it's what September second, yep, okay, Monday, okay, so September third,

(01:16:06):
that's Tuesday. So seven game just sheer math gets you
to the to the twelfth. Twelfth, So so the thirteenth
is two weeks from this Friday. He's not back in
the Astros uniform by then, give me the over. And
then if he's not, and if he hasn't got a
minor league assignment by then, you better start to be
concerned about his postseason readiness. This is just not normal,

(01:16:29):
and I know it's severe, and like I said, this
is more severe than we even thought. Yeah, a month too,
month worth three months next Wednesday? Three months. So you
can't blame me for optimism. For me, just from my
van which I've been the whole time, this is as
serious a bone brus I've ever seen a baseball player have.
And I can tell you that if your optimism is

(01:16:50):
you're getting in by the middle of the month, I'll
take that bet with you, and I'll be anything you want.
I'll bet that you ain't getting until past the middle
of the month. I like you said, it's your math.
Here we are so twenty eighth. I hope I'm ryan.
I'll stand saying Thank goodness. Maybe it was a reverse psychology.
I don't think he sees a major league uniform till
late September. Mathematically, I think that's more. How can you not?

(01:17:16):
How can you Unless he's gonna go from being healthy
and not going to minor league sign you're gonna stick
him the right field right away. You have three months out,
and you bet seven or eight games. That's just not said.
That's okay, seven eight games, So it's ten days. So
if after even if you get to the third or fourth,
that's already at the fifteenth, fourteenth or fifteenth, and then
you got to hope he gets hot and he's the
Kyle Tucker you're used to after all this and gets

(01:17:38):
his confidence back of putting his right foot in the ground. Yeah.
I I this real realistically, he might might might might might.
On the more positive side, might get two weeks with
the big league club before the playoffs start. That's why
I said ten. I said ten might. Yeah. Just looking
at Wow, I think you're I think you're blessed if

(01:18:03):
you get him in September. That's where I'm at now,
isn't it crazy? Yeah?

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Speaker 9 (01:19:05):
Donald, he said that yesterday, I believe this was posted yesterday,
that Kyle Tucker is sprinting now and quote Joe Spotta
said that he's actually sprinting, base running, but full on sprinting.

Speaker 7 (01:19:18):
I don't know if that's fine.

Speaker 5 (01:19:19):
And Danny it's it's it's the lateral movement that's going
to concern me.

Speaker 6 (01:19:22):
It's when you hit the corner of the base with
that right plant foot. Yeah, that you have the bone
bruise on. Then then let's talk.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
Well and the quick it's like the quick verse too,
like when you're in right field and the balls hitting
a gap and you got to go track it down.
I listen, maybe it is reverse psychology. But with the
the energy we've had, and Donald, thanks for the call,
I think we do we discuss a little bit that
he was moving forward, but we had not a lateral
a lot of lateral. So maybe see Sparks mentioned that
Stephen Dana give us such good information. It's it's nice

(01:19:49):
to make sure we give them credit for it. But
with with Kyle Tucker or with this, you know, we've
been optimistic for what I say, Man, when when's he
coming back? When's he come back? Then it gets to
a point like, okay, let me reverse this. May he's
not coming back till October. Well we're in September. And
when if you said September in July, like we were
concerned about, people are like, no, that ain't gonna happen.
It's he bounced it off his shin right. Well, it's

(01:20:10):
obviously a severe injury. There's no question about it. Running
straight and I know that. It's like when I have
like knee and I know it's different. Running straight's one thing,
and then when you have to start putting your foot
in the ground and doing some other quick latter movement,
it's like, Okay, how do I feel? And you're a
little tentative at first, and I'm sure he is too
after all this, but yeah, I hope, I hope it's
first of all, it's not going to be till minimum

(01:20:31):
a mid September. It's just not Yeah, the math, you've
rent the day, you don't. We don't have forty eight
hour days, we get twenty five days. There's just not
enough time, unless, of course he's sprinting, and then he
over the weekend, all of a sudden he feels like
a million bucks and they say, you want to go
down forget minor leagues. We need gen right field. Let's
go play. You're not getting a minor league whatever. That's
not going to happen. I think they're going to send
NuGet his timing back. So when they do minimum, the

(01:20:54):
math simply says it can't be any sooner than that anyway. Correct, Yeah,
mathematically speaking. But if he's sprinting, that's a good thing.
But when you tell me he went from first to
third on a base hit full speed, come see me? Yeah,
exactly that that then then then it's a different Then
my optimist say, oh, okay, let's go and I hope
that we are that we're wrong. We haven't missed this
one yet, but let's hope we're wrong on this one,

(01:21:15):
that he's back before October, because we as much as
they win and stuff. Even with Seattle chasing, that extra
bat in the lineup for thirty games would be primo.

Speaker 6 (01:21:23):
Yeah, no doubt about it. To get out to the
phone line seven seven, and he isn't number to join. Brian,
You're up first, Good.

Speaker 8 (01:21:30):
Morning, Good morning guys.

Speaker 22 (01:21:34):
I'm just wondering if we can stop for just a
second ask you guys.

Speaker 16 (01:21:38):
A couple of quick questions.

Speaker 22 (01:21:40):
Uh, maybe this is for Dana Brown. I mean, I
think Dana Brown's being extremely smart about this, and he's
hedging his bets it gets Tuck. You alluded to it earlier, Sean,
Kyle's gonna need a warm up period when he gets
back more than likely. Hell, they they take a three
months off and then they go to spring training and
warm up for a month and then hopefully hit the
ground run and then April, so is Jason Hayward basically

(01:22:04):
his heads against Tuck not being able to a come
back in a tally manner and or b comeback but
not quite get things going as fast. And then the
other question was, man, are we ever gonna be realistic
as far as h and get your opinion on mccullor's

(01:22:25):
Javier Garcia and Arkidi and the future of them realistically
pitching in an Astro's Unicorn.

Speaker 5 (01:22:32):
Thanks than great stuff, Brian. First off, with the Tucker thing,
I don't think there's any doubt in my mind that
Jason Hayward's a good addition and a solid edition. But
an insurance policy, I don't think there's any question. Maybe
just maybe even if Tucker was healthy, if you thought
I trust Hayward more than I trust McCormick right now,

(01:22:52):
that that would be that you'd make that move, right.
But there's no doubt. There's may but there still is
no doubt. For the versatility in the and and the
depth in the outfield, he is definitely an insurance policy
against not only Tucker, but also to protect yourself of
having to play somebody who's not hitting well. Yeah, because
you know what, I can run anybody out there to
hit one eighty. Yeah, I can so that that that's

(01:23:16):
the thing. I can run anybody out on the field
to hit one hundred. Harry Hatchinats hits one hundred. Yeah.
And while I love Chaz, he just going through it
right now, and you can't. The truth is you can't
run him out there. No, you can't. You just can't.
You can't, especially in a high leverage situation, just can't.
As far as those guys you named, I I don't
think mccullor starts another regular season game here, do you.

(01:23:40):
I do you think with all the you think he's
still here at the in the next when next year
comes around.

Speaker 6 (01:23:45):
Yeah, I think they're going to give him a spring
and then I think they'll give him some starts early
in the season and see how he does.

Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
Okay, And that's that sounds more logical. That's just what
I think about. Well, I was Steven A. Smith for
a second. I don't think he's ever gonna start other
game here. I mean, I mean, I don't is it
that hot to take? I don't think so.

Speaker 13 (01:24:03):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:24:03):
Is it fair debate? I think it's a fair debate.
Key the Garcia is going to pitch here again?

Speaker 6 (01:24:08):
Oh yeah, Garcia, And both Garcia and mccullors will both
be ready for spring training. I think they both get starts.
Christian Xavier will start again once he rehabs back from
Tommy John. Jose Erketty once he comes back from Tommy
John possible trade guy. I don't know, see, I would
think in order of I don't want to say importance,

(01:24:28):
but in order of guys that I two years from
now think are still here, Garcia and.

Speaker 5 (01:24:34):
Javier, Yeah, those are the top two. And then the
arkety mccullors thinks how they come out of the injury
for me? Yeah, So I hope Lance starts a game here,
and I hope and when I say not going to
start another game here, my concern is not that he's
not good enough to start another game. Is how healthy
will he be in do you trust that he's going
to be a starter or is he now relegated to
be a relief guy on a regular basis? Because how

(01:24:55):
much length will he have? I just think, where's the
where's the length of his career? It is a starting
pitcher a reliever now, for the betterment of his career
and for the betterment of the team, he should be
a relief guy. So you can see why I say, oh, yeah,
I get it, he's not gonna be one of your
five starters from the get go, that you're just gonna
start him with the open and say you want to
last year, that's where you gonna be with this group
right now. Right Let's say you even let's say you

(01:25:15):
sign out. Let's say you sign you, say Kakuchi to
a team friendly deer deal because he's a little bit older,
and you bring him back and you get a full
off season with him, in a full spring training with him,
You're gonna put him ahead of You're gonna put Lance
Colors Junior ahead of him. I'm more secure in thinking
Garcia and Javier here for the more long run than
Erkeaty and mcculler's. I think that they've bantered over in

(01:25:36):
the past over the last two or three is of
if they got the right offer, they'd move Urkety, but
he's been solid. I don't think all are four here
for the duration. Does that make sense somebody's getting moved.
Oh yeah, doubt. But I just wonder Lance's future if
it's as a starting pitcher he'll pitch again, or a
middle relief guy. I think just on sheer health alone,

(01:25:59):
not on stuff on health alone. He's got to listen.
Lance's got some stuff to prove when he comes back.
Oh yeah, there's a lot to proof.

Speaker 7 (01:26:06):
He has.

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
As much as you and I love him, there's still
stuff to prove. I'd say this about my brother if
that was the case. But he's just got some he's
got some stuff to prove, and I hope he comes
back as a starter. But the question is do we
trust that the length can that he can be that
guy for twenty five starts?

Speaker 6 (01:26:22):
So jose A Rakhidi is under contract until twenty twenty six.
He's got another year of arbitration, so he'll be around.

Speaker 5 (01:26:28):
But doesn't mean he can't trade him. Correct that mean
he can't trade him? I didn't mean it doesn't mean
he's a solid pitcher, right, But to me, I'm more secure.
I think they still think Javier's got a phenomenal future
instead do I And Garcia went right? Garcia's just a
he can do everything him and him and Javier and
Garcia the two of the four of those of those,

(01:26:49):
it goes those two and then the other two below
them when it comes to making my decision.

Speaker 6 (01:26:53):
I'm with you on that. Let's take a quick call
before we get to the break. Gil's up.

Speaker 16 (01:26:58):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:26:59):
Guys?

Speaker 11 (01:27:00):
Question with Breckmann and Tucker because of the injuries they have,
will this help in a negotiation with the Astros in
signing them and with Tucker?

Speaker 8 (01:27:12):
Do you want to be even bring.

Speaker 14 (01:27:14):
Up this because we do unscrewed him on his last contract.
Is it too touchy of a subjects? Do we have
a chance to signing them because of this injury? They're
gonna bring it up here to negotiations. I'm asking, I'll say,
Beck to listen.

Speaker 5 (01:27:29):
Thank you. Gil. He talked about the Tucker negotiations. The
reason why it's not going to come up now. If
you're Tucker, you're sitting there probably waiting and saying, put
it this way, if the team wants the best deal,
probably should start now.

Speaker 6 (01:27:45):
Yeah, And they avoided arbitration. They got him up to
twelve million dollars a year this past offseason. He's going
he's got another year of arbitration. He's not a free
agent until twenty twenty six.

Speaker 5 (01:27:54):
That's what I'm saying. You still have a little leeway.
He's under contracts. He's not going anywhere. You're not going anywhere.
You got him. But the question is, and I think
Gil makes makes a good point. Okay, what if the
contract was due at the end of this year, So
like the bregnant situation, right, Well you get how much

(01:28:14):
how much money is three months cost him or has it?
Well you combine that with the struggles in the postseason,
and let's say he doesn't get a postseason this year.
Who makes more money tomorrow or at the end of
this season? If if Tucker's contract was up, we can
talk about this next segment. If Tucker's contract was up
at twenty twenty five, not twenty twenty six, he and
Bregman go out on the free agent market. When all

(01:28:37):
is said and done and the contracts are signed, who
gets more years? Who gets more money? We'll discuss that next.
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It's doctor Tom Tom A.

Speaker 10 (01:30:39):
Good morning, guys, great show. What a great start you
had with Brandon this morning.

Speaker 20 (01:30:45):
She kept it pippy man.

Speaker 10 (01:30:46):
He took one word when if that doesn't capitalize, throwstros
and hose in order. You know, we're all looking for validation,
so I'd have to put throws first and we meet
fight into stros is for.

Speaker 8 (01:31:00):
Up walk off the field about catching?

Speaker 20 (01:31:04):
Who would you go with?

Speaker 10 (01:31:05):
I'd like to do a poll, like of the top
three hitters of the teams and day.

Speaker 15 (01:31:10):
Who would you not like to face or face?

Speaker 20 (01:31:14):
And I think it would be proper to show you
a lot of books round walls.

Speaker 8 (01:31:18):
He gets take it past you.

Speaker 20 (01:31:20):
He's crampy left hander. But the real question I would
want to have to that he who do you not want?

Speaker 8 (01:31:28):
You know? I mean, I think proper would be that guy.

Speaker 20 (01:31:33):
You know, I see talker in one way right now?

Speaker 16 (01:31:37):
If he gets up in the morning.

Speaker 15 (01:31:38):
Then he goes into his bathroom.

Speaker 16 (01:31:40):
Who see the cockroachs on the floor.

Speaker 10 (01:31:43):
Can he put his right foot down and stop it out?

Speaker 20 (01:31:46):
I just don't think he can.

Speaker 16 (01:31:48):
He'd be down in the minor league testing it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:50):
Spreading is one thing, but Brian.

Speaker 8 (01:31:52):
You said it's death making that turn to go to second.

Speaker 5 (01:31:55):
Base and slowing down. That's really where you put the
stress on your leg.

Speaker 10 (01:32:01):
So I don't know, man, I've been one of the
favors for weeks. He may not be coming back at
all because think about it.

Speaker 16 (01:32:07):
If he comes back and he goes down to the miners, you.

Speaker 10 (01:32:10):
Got to evaluate him two or three days then, because
recovery's going to be important. So he ain't going from
from He's got to go down to the miners.

Speaker 8 (01:32:20):
He's got to see what.

Speaker 16 (01:32:20):
He needs to do.

Speaker 8 (01:32:21):
I'm hoping for the desk.

Speaker 16 (01:32:22):
I'm still rooting for him. I think you know, there's
one thing that's going right for them right now. The
Mariners just can't put it together. Let's hope that that
keeps up. Great great show this morning, guys, Tom.

Speaker 5 (01:32:35):
Great great point. Listen, it's all that quick start and
stop turning when you're trying to head home, getting into
the gap and going getting the ball. We got a
lot of our great Twitter followers as well that are
they're under the belief that you're not seeing him n
till twenty twenty five, which I think, which hopefully is hyperbolic,
and hopefully that's that reverse psychology thrown out there. Like

(01:32:55):
I said, I think you're at the point now you
got to count your blessings. If he's back by the
end of September, I just do. And then you know
Tom's right after he goes down there, you'll reevaluate to
make sure there was no further day, you know, no
damage done, that he's that he's pain free, that his
threshold of pain is is able to handle it, and
then hopefully his bats hop when you need him the most.

(01:33:15):
So yeah, I I to me, I think that I
think you're optimistic. If you think he's going to be
back by the middle of September, you got to be
that optimistic. I think that's overly optimistic at this stage.

Speaker 6 (01:33:26):
And next segment, well, we got some audio from Joe
Spotta was with Matt Thomas I believe yesterday and talked
about Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 5 (01:33:35):
So maybe they're always gonna be they're gonna give you.
I mean, it's like I'm gonna take a grain of salt.
Not that they're lying, but they've they've got to protect
their thing and the player, keep the fan optimistic. But also,
you know, understand and listen, you added Jason Heyward, You're
I mean, there's some concerns obviously now you added depth
to the outfield that Hayward can d h for you.
Hayward can play, you know, both corner outfields, right, and

(01:33:58):
so I just I'm I am not. I was more
optimistic a month ago than I am now. I think
you're gonna get him back before twenty twenty five. I
don't think you're getting him back yet. I don't think
he's getting eight at baths in September on the major
league level. I think that'll be tough. I think he
should be we I hope he does, and if he does,
I think we should be grateful.

Speaker 6 (01:34:18):
I think we should biscuit. We got about forty five
seconds for you, brothers, going.

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got to keep your legs straight. The problem is once

(01:34:44):
the bones hill though, that's the deal bones hill, So what's.

Speaker 8 (01:34:48):
The bone hell?

Speaker 20 (01:34:49):
You could, but now you got to get the quack muscle.
You kept it straight for all the time. You got
to get it back to whereas you know, and that's
the biggest muscle in the body, the quad mouth. And
so now you you're rehabbing the quad and so now
you But I think once he gets the quad rehab,
because once you had to put weight on it, it

(01:35:09):
takes no time after that.

Speaker 5 (01:35:11):
Right, good to go, he'll go rap. I think, no doubt.

Speaker 20 (01:35:14):
I think the problem was that may it may have
been like a hairline fraction. It was misdiagnosed at the beginning,
and so you didn't get it going to maybe four
weeks in So now you wasted up, you know, three
to four weeks because you misdiagnosed with just a bruise
and maybe it was a hairline fraction. And because once
every time he put weight on he felt pain. And

(01:35:35):
so I think that's what happened. I think I think
he'll get back going good though, Shino. Once uh, once
he you know, he's able to start running. There's not
no leaguements or anything like that. So once he gets running,
it shouldn't be no time at all.

Speaker 5 (01:35:48):
Yep. You think you think you're going to see him
before September fifteenth on a major league roster.

Speaker 20 (01:35:55):
No, I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:35:57):
Once he do come back, he's gonna be crew agree.

Speaker 20 (01:36:00):
Once he do come back. Yeah, I say maybe the
twentieth or something like that.

Speaker 16 (01:36:03):
Yeah, but once he do, because I was out.

Speaker 20 (01:36:05):
From January to April, you know, and I'm a young,
older guy, so maybe he could do it a little sooner.
I think most he's good. He's good, but you know,
it's all about getting good.

Speaker 11 (01:36:16):
Now.

Speaker 20 (01:36:16):
You got to get that muscle and all that back together, expecially.

Speaker 5 (01:36:20):
Yeah, the threshold of pain. Get it going to your right.
He'll go more rapid once he's able to start doing
those things and get it up. But we're not good.
When I say get up, let me just didn't mean that.
I mean, thanks, get it up and running is what
I'm saying. Get going, biscuits. Yeah, man, whatever, dude, I
don't take you. Yeah, man, whatever you want to get up? Dog?
Where the hell's my mind?

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Tim McGraw. The name is escaping me. Let me see.

Speaker 5 (01:38:37):
It's like this goes if you see Tim McGraw, Oh no,
that's wrong. Little white dress, little white dress, not bad.
Think that little address.

Speaker 6 (01:38:51):
Wrong ones, tripley wrong ones by post Malone and Tim
Tim McGraw, Now that you confused with Tug McGraw, but
his father correct r ip yep, let's talk to uh
not not to be confused with John Party but John
and Fresno. I don't know how it works. We're gonna
go with it. He wants to start Kyle Tucker. John,

(01:39:12):
thanks for holding much your thoughts on Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 23 (01:39:14):
He was fellas Hey, I hate to be the barrier
of bad nude.

Speaker 5 (01:39:18):
But he's not coming back. It's too late up in.

Speaker 23 (01:39:20):
The season, and uh, we don't know how how bad
that injury is. And the agent that's not gonna let
him come out there and rehagh make that injury because
he trying to get paid and you know, and he's
now one hundred and fifteen hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (01:39:34):
The agent not gonna let him step on that field.

Speaker 23 (01:39:37):
Just let him in the season, take a chance on
getting injured or re injured with he already. So I
just feel like that is to watch for him. He
gonna get ready for next year and Uh, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
All I got on tub.

Speaker 5 (01:39:50):
Thank you, John.

Speaker 20 (01:39:51):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:39:51):
We got some audio of Joe as Spot of the
Manager talking with Matt Thomas, Matt Thomas and Ross via
Reality He You're on seven ninety twelve to three every
single Monay through Friday. This is Joe as a pot
of talking about Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 14 (01:40:06):
Yeah's so tough.

Speaker 15 (01:40:08):
You know, He's been sending us videos every day about
his work, and he's actually running on the field in
the outfield doing sprints. I can call him sprints now
because he actually you know, he's.

Speaker 24 (01:40:21):
Getting to fifty sixty percent Matt's effort, so he's actually
looking really, really good. I think in the next couple
of days now, when we go home over the weekend,
we'll see him and see if we could get on
the basis.

Speaker 15 (01:40:34):
But I feel pretty good about the work he's doing,
you know, And I mean he wants to be on
the field so bad. I I you know, when we
text one another, we have our conversations. He you know,
he feels how you know that his teammates need him,
how the CD wants him on the field, being out
for so long, and something that he hasn't want to do.
But he's trying to get back on the field, you know,

(01:40:57):
and I expect him to, you know, early September, to
be with us and you know, in the lineup. So
you know, I'm just hopeful and I keep praying that
it's soon because we can really use Telatuki in that lineup.

Speaker 5 (01:41:11):
Okay, all right, couple things here, Sean September's next Tuesday. Okay,
a couple things here.

Speaker 6 (01:41:18):
He says he can call him sprints because that's what
he's doing. However, he also said, well, it's fifty fifty
to sixty percent max effort. Okay, that's one thing that's
halfway there. That's halfway there, still not running bases. Then
he also says that all we're going to come home
this weekend and hopefully after the weekend we'll see him
and we'll see if we can get him on the

(01:41:39):
base pass. But then thirty seconds later he says, oh,
he'll be back in the lineup by the first of September.

Speaker 5 (01:41:45):
The first September, first week of September is Monday. So
which is it fifty to sixty percent run bases on
on Monday or back in the lineup. Well, I got
news for it. A man, he's a fifty to sixty percent.
You ain't seen him till late September. Fifty percent print speed,

(01:42:07):
I got news from how contradicting well, I got news
for Joe. If Kyle Tucker is playing next week, he
ain't at fifty sixty percent, he's at eighty or ninety.
It would also say that Kyle Tucker's not according to
Joe spot and did that talk, Kyle Tucker's not going
down to a minor league assignment. So he's saying, so
so three months off, and your my point is right
because tomorrow's Thursday. Yeah, when they come back after Labor Day,

(01:42:33):
he's not going to an assignment over Labor Day. He's
only fifty sixty percent. So you're telling if if by
Joe's standard, the first early September, it would tell me
that he's not going to a minor league asignment, and
you're going to send him to a minor league assignment.

Speaker 6 (01:42:45):
Shawn in the same sentence and same uh yeah, same sentence,
he said, first week of September, he's back with us
in the lineup. But he also said, first week of September,
after we come back from the weekend, we hope to
have him running bases right.

Speaker 5 (01:42:59):
Hope. Here's another thing I would be if he would
have said he's running his sprints, be he's like eighty
ninety percent. Now we got something like all close, and
then I still got to get a little minor league
run in for a week and that would take you
to the tenth after this weekend or so. Now, I'm

(01:43:21):
not trying to speak for Joe, but it doesn't add up.
Just the timeframe doesn't add up.

Speaker 16 (01:43:27):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:43:29):
I And look, I'd be willing to bet a lot
of money that Kyle Tucker doesn't take a swing of
it at bat on the Astros roster before September fifteenth
and we get it or September twelfth something. I think
it's after September fifteenth. I'd take the over.

Speaker 6 (01:43:44):
Every big leaguer that's hurt and not playing wants to
be with your course to be.

Speaker 5 (01:43:49):
Back, Yes, but you're not going to play him at
eighty percent. No, And John was right, you know, when
you got big money on the line of a year
and a half away, and I'm not gonna We're still
gonna hit that question of who gets paid more. Considering
their circumstances. If they were both free agents at the
end of twenty twenty four, Bregman and Tucker considering the

(01:44:10):
injury because will that effect his pay was a question
asked earlier. So I just like I said, I'm not
he's the manager, But just timeframe alone and the health
and the fifty to sixty percent does not add up
to being back the first week of September without with Now,
if he was in the minor leagues and he played
three games already, great, I'll see you next week. Don't

(01:44:32):
think it's happening anytime soon. When I consider soon two weeks,
that's soon. You think it's happened in the next two weeks,
you think you will he be starting in right field
in two weeks. No to mean no, okay, no, I
would agree.

Speaker 6 (01:44:44):
I'm just a little confused, as are you gonna have
it running bases after the Labor Day weekend or you
having it back in a Nastros uniform in the lineup.
If you are, then that's a hell of a quick
quick turnaround in about four or five days.

Speaker 5 (01:44:56):
From fifty fifty to sixty percent of starting in right field.
You know that answer, and that answer is no.

Speaker 6 (01:45:05):
It's a little a little different from uh from the
manager Joe Spata.

Speaker 5 (01:45:10):
But hey, you know they need him back.

Speaker 6 (01:45:11):
I know that, but just realistic, get realistically speaking in
time for time that you're running out of days here
to get him back for next week a week from
today is the fourth of September, so hopefully he can
get that figured out and get back.

Speaker 5 (01:45:27):
Are you giving me the over under fifteenth? You're taking
the over the under or so I would take the
over all? Right, I would take the over fair enough,
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Speaker 4 (01:47:31):
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Speaker 5 (01:47:33):
Would be good?

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Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
Back to former QB Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven
ninety get medieval on him, shun.

Speaker 5 (01:47:46):
Yeah, he's a close Malon's got it going on a
lot of collab, right. We talked about that was who
t mac as they call him? Yeah, do you think
anybody calls it that? I would have to Yeah, yeah,
no doubt.

Speaker 6 (01:47:59):
Talk about Tim mc raw being versatile as well, Like
he goes from like like the family dad in the
blind Side to the drunk dad in Friday Night Lights.
Gotta be versatile to sing, uh, to singing about brand
new man or No, that's a that's not him, that's

(01:48:20):
that's Brooks and done Tim McGraw. Uh, Well he missed
what a I'm a real bad.

Speaker 5 (01:48:25):
Man or bad boy or whatever. But he's a bad
he's a bad he's a bad boy, but a real
good man, right, yeah, I'm a real good man. Yeah yeah.
But he also, I'll tell you what he loved it.

Speaker 6 (01:48:34):
When a hoe was a hoe, and when coke was coked. Yeah,
and cracks what you were doing when you were cracking jokes.

Speaker 5 (01:48:40):
Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean, who doesn't love when
a hole was all? And you'll also work in the
yard too. What happened to you, man? Well, back of
the day, we used to hoe our gardens. You probably
still do hold your gardens. See how that sounds.

Speaker 8 (01:49:03):
You do?

Speaker 5 (01:49:03):
Tell what you do? I hoe my garden. Yeah, okay.
How often do you see a hoe though, Well, every
day when you walk. I get it. But I'm talking
about what Tim McGraw's talking about. Then a garden hoe. Okay,
look after you see those? Now you don't see m
much on like on cruise, that coming like mow your
lawn or that if you hire you know, so you've
got a landscaper. I don't have a hole in my

(01:49:24):
garage bedroom. No, No, I'm kidding, you know, no, I said,
But you get my point. Yeah, I get it. So
when he says the hole is oh, back when you
were being ready the hole was Yeah, but it was
a it was a garden tool. No, it wasn't. It
wasn't when you were in high school. Oh it was
a garden when I was growing up. It was a

(01:49:44):
garden tool. Right, So the question is, so McGraw he
I mean, what a coke was a coke? Is what
he doesn't realize in the seventies coke was not the
coke there he's talking about may not a in coola
back when debuted in twenty uh not twenty two thousand

(01:50:05):
and four.

Speaker 6 (01:50:06):
August twenty four, two thousand and four. Yeah, so twenty
years ago. Yep, twenty years and four days ago. So
I was a freshman in high school. No, I was
a sophomore. Well what was the who hear it just started?

Speaker 5 (01:50:17):
What was the hole? Then? Uh huh yeah babe? Yeah yeah.
What a great song though, is it?

Speaker 7 (01:50:22):
Yeah? It was a great song.

Speaker 5 (01:50:23):
Yeah, sneaky good. Anyway, post Malone does a good job
to like it. Screw is a screw? Oh yeah, and
the wind was all that blue and then well yeah,
that was it. The Screw is a screw. You think
he could debut that song now? Oh yeah? Well you
think would people get up to want to pissed off

(01:50:44):
at him, probably screw him? Well, who cares?

Speaker 6 (01:50:48):
Yeah, because the certain people when he's if he says
the wind was all that blue, they some people would
probably say, why is it only the wind?

Speaker 5 (01:50:57):
Why can't you be inclusive to all? If you're a
singer comedian these days, who cares what they think? Who cares?
Who absolutely cares that you don't have you go? I'm
so tired of half of these comedians. And he says
you have to walk a Well, we're not allowed to
sing that, or I'm not allowed to say yeah you are,
go ahead. For the people who don't like it, oh well,
don't turn it on, don't listen to him, don't go

(01:51:19):
to his comedy show. Get your ass out of here. Okay,
if you're offen when did we become offended by everything? Right?
I mean every single thing you do? Well, what if
I'm in trouble, what if they cancel me? You know what?
I have to the next time I care about somebody's
opinion of me will be the second time, maybe the
first time. The point is is that I mean, let

(01:51:41):
it rip, right, Yeah, I'm with it. Let it rip respectfully, right,
let it rip. But you know what if you're if
you're tailoring what you're saying to make sure that every
single person on either side of the aisle, or every
person that likes religion or doesn't or doesn't like this
or is offended by this, that everything you do has
has deep meaning of Oh yeah, how'd you mean that

(01:52:05):
you offended me? Well, if you're offended, maybe that's a
you problem. That's definitely okay. So somebody's song or comedy
is not offending me because going in, I know it's
called comedy. Correct, you're supposed to laugh. And if you're
offended by it, may I suggest you take two weeks
off and quit going to comedy. And if you don't
like the song, don't listen to well it's playing on

(01:52:25):
my radio. Turn your radio down, bitch. Okay, how's that political? Correctly?
There you go. Well, there you go. You get to
a certain point in life where that you're they can't
do it to you. Does that make sense?

Speaker 11 (01:52:38):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:52:38):
So there you go. So you singer, don't Yeah, Tim McGraw,
go ahead and do a redo, do a collab with
a couple of your buddies and do the same song
and laugh while you're singing. It not killing friend. Hey
a little T Lawrence? Yeah, Trevor Lawrence, Tracy Lawrence, Oh
T law Yeah, there you go. Do you think anybody
calls them T law Yep, probably not. Somebody does. Nah,

(01:53:01):
somebody out there is cheesy enough to call him that.
You know that? You sure, I guarantee it, triple? Would
you call him T law Who wasn't that Ken Chez? No,
that's Chesney McGraw and uh no, Tracy Lawrence. Find out who.
I'll bet you a thousand can't afford it. It's uh
Tracy Lawrence, Lawrence McGraw and Kenny Chesney.

Speaker 6 (01:53:24):
It's uh Tim McGraw, Tracy Lawrence, and Kendall Chesney.

Speaker 5 (01:53:29):
Yeah, Ken Chesney exactly. Chesney and I cannot believe you
just questioned Mike.

Speaker 6 (01:53:34):
No, no, no, no, no, no, hurts no, man, I would
never Are you ready to talk to Texans?

Speaker 5 (01:53:39):
I am talk.

Speaker 6 (01:53:42):
I we got to get it in before we talk
to general general manager Danny Brown.

Speaker 5 (01:53:45):
Nine thirty. Dane has got some contracts to negotiate down
the road here, doesn't he He does, unless you want
to roll with that. At nine o'clock, they win the
if they get to the playoffs and win the division
to see in line for Executive of the Year.

Speaker 6 (01:53:58):
Yeah, given everything that's happened and all the transactions they've
made to try to piece this thing together, Yes, couldn't
agree more. Yeah, you want to roll with the contract
stuff in nine o'clock or you want to talk to text.

Speaker 5 (01:54:08):
We sorry, football, we'll get contract stuff in today now. Well,
whether the contracts aren't going anywhere, it's not time sensitive.

Speaker 6 (01:54:14):
Correct, So you're good. All right, let's talk Texas. Look,
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that no longer play for the Texans who are there.

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Speaker 6 (01:56:58):
You also have some other notes with the Texans. Texans
starting linebacker Christian Harris being placed on injured reserve after
aggravating a calf injury. He can be designated for a
return in four weeks. Some of the cuts for the Texans.
Noah Brown, he's.

Speaker 5 (01:57:20):
Gonna land somewhere. Oh yeah, he's gonna play somewhere. Tim Boyle,
here's the problem. When you're cutting down, you got to
ask yourself, is our third quarterback better than what we
could bring in as a third who had no work
with the team in the preseason. I'm talking about with
the new team if he goes now, I don't know

(01:57:42):
what the new current CBA is As a five year guy,
can you even be put on practice squad? Is there
a year limit on that now? I mean, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure if there's like a certain amount of
NFL experience you can have before they put you on
the practice squad. You know what I'm saying for an age,
I don't know that. Why I'm saying with the current
CBA that that, I don't know because I haven't had

(01:58:02):
to check on it. So maybe get a shot, but uh,
I'm not sure. The problem is if you're a starter
and get cut and I've had a lot of starting experience,
somebody puts you on his backup. The question is does
somebody trust him more than they do their other third
quarterback that there's on their rash and went through training camp.

Speaker 6 (01:58:21):
Man, they they cut quite a bit. Let's see, it's
just some of the bigger names. Ben Scrowinick, Scrinick, Skurnick. Yeah,
how have you pronounce it? For what a six round pick?
Andrew Beck the fullback QB, Tim Boyle, Noah Brown, Mike

(01:58:42):
Ford junior, Charlie Heck. Andy's gonna be upset. Caller Andy
is gonna be upset. Charlie Heck was released.

Speaker 5 (01:58:48):
This is guy, Chuck Heck.

Speaker 6 (01:58:50):
Damn Lonnie Johnson junior, Desmond King, a couple offensive linemen. Uh,
Gerard Jordan?

Speaker 5 (01:58:58):
Wasn't he? Where did they get him from? Louisville? Yeah?
He was a six round pick. Wasn't Henderson here? Henderson?
Losing my mind? Who you talking about? CJ? Was he here? CJ?
Is it Henderson? Maybe I'm maybe I'm hitting it wrong.
First round draft pick about four years ago? Oh yeah,

(01:59:20):
they released me?

Speaker 6 (01:59:21):
Yeah, triply, that's the notification you got on your phone
that you showed me in between segments yesterday. Yeah, Henderson,
they did release him.

Speaker 5 (01:59:27):
There you go. So I thought I was right. He
didn't first round pick. I'm thought that I dream this. No, Well,
think about this. Lonnie Johnson was the second round pick
out of Kentucky. Correct and CJ. Henderson. Both of them
are under six years I'd think in the league. Correct CJ. Henderson? Yeah,
first and second round pick. Neither one of them. That's
how fragile the league is. Yes, you go from starter
here at time Ronnie Johnson to not playing here then

(01:59:49):
coming back. C. J. Henderson was a first round pick?
Was it by Jacksonville maybe in twenty twenty Jacksonville twenty
twenty first round pick, the top top ten twelve pick.
I think I think it was a top ten pick.
I want to say maybe the ninth pick, or he
was Jacksonville the ninth overall. There there you go, and

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four years later, just to show you how fragile the
league isn't performan he's out of the league.

Speaker 6 (02:00:14):
He signed a four year rookie contract, fully guaranteed twenty
and a half a million bucks, and he got cut yesterday.

Speaker 5 (02:00:21):
So it just goes to show you one coach's you know,
treasure isn't for somebody else, right, But this roster they're
talking about the biggest I was looking at TV talking
about the biggest threat to the Kansas City Chiefs, and
of the panel of four, one had the Jets, the
host Mike Greenberg, that's his favorite team. Two had the

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Cincinnati Bengals. Rightfully so, but they got to prove to
me they can stay healthy. And that offensive line continues
to get better, to keep Joe Burrow upright. And and
Lewis Riddick said, Texans or the biggest threat in the
AFC to the Kansas City Chiefs. Lose. Rick's been high
on the Texas from all. Yeah, now I am high too.
That might be I'm high on him too, might be
ambititions right now, but why not. Yeah, they're not mentioning

(02:01:03):
the Ravens. They're not mentioned in the Kansas I mean,
the the Chargers are not mentioning the Buffalo Bills. They're
not mentioned, the Miami Dolphins, all those good teams. But
I think it's wide open for slot two and three.
I do Jacksonville's gonna want to put their name in there. There.
This this opportunity has come a lot sooner than you
think about the parody, but also great quarterbacks in the AFC,

(02:01:24):
but a chance that you can put your position. Hell,
if you go win your division and post the twelve wins,
you very well could be in the in the You're
gonna be in the home field advanced throughout conversation to
carry your division.

Speaker 6 (02:01:36):
Yeah, got to see what Andy's got to say about
his boy Charlie. Heck getting cut Andy, all right, you're
gonna be okay.

Speaker 16 (02:01:45):
Oh what was me good?

Speaker 8 (02:01:48):
I was?

Speaker 16 (02:01:49):
You know, I don't want the guy. I hate the
fact that he's dealing with a bad pot. But uh
yeah he was. I don't know why he was even
on the team. My goodness. Hey, well we know that
the what's that guy's name, British? Who the running back?
What was that running back that kept over the fullbacks?

Speaker 5 (02:02:14):
The rookie running back.

Speaker 16 (02:02:17):
Yeah, that's the reason the fullbacks were cut.

Speaker 5 (02:02:20):
Trying to think which one starts with a B.

Speaker 16 (02:02:24):
First name B, last name B.

Speaker 5 (02:02:26):
Okay, I'll get that here in a second.

Speaker 16 (02:02:28):
Yeah. He uh. They when they played this last game,
they put him at h back. They put him at fullback. Uh.
The guy can play fullback, so that's why. And he
can play running back and back. Then har Harrison can't
do that. He catches the ball out on the backfield.
That's the reason those two fullbacks were cut.

Speaker 20 (02:02:48):
I don't know his name.

Speaker 16 (02:02:49):
I thought it's it's got a weird name. But he's
you're not talking.

Speaker 5 (02:02:51):
About and you're not talking about Darry are you.

Speaker 8 (02:02:55):
No?

Speaker 16 (02:02:55):
No, no, no, he's on there because in case we
need a kicker.

Speaker 5 (02:02:59):
Yeah, uh no, no, it's the rookie.

Speaker 16 (02:03:03):
Look at the roster. I can't think of his name.
It's it starts with B. As you've got first last
name of B. It's it's a weird first name, I believe.

Speaker 6 (02:03:13):
Okay, I'll try to find that because I'm looking at
the roster right now after the cuts and he's not
on here.

Speaker 16 (02:03:18):
Yeah, he's on the running backs. Pay attention to that.
Maybe I'm wrong, it's who the who's.

Speaker 5 (02:03:23):
The running backs?

Speaker 6 (02:03:27):
Well, listen on the depth chart after the cuts, it's
Joe Mixing, Damian Pierson, Darry at Woogawalle, and then Cam Akers.

Speaker 16 (02:03:33):
Okay, there's a there's a fifth one.

Speaker 5 (02:03:35):
Yeah, I'm just coming into this conversation. I was looking
at some practice squad stuff that I'll give you the
update on practice squad. Well you can do with them
and the the and how it works. But I don't
know what's the question. Who are we talking about another
running back?

Speaker 16 (02:03:48):
I thought that there's a fifth running back last night
when I was reading that they kept five running backs
and the fifth one was a rookie and they played
him at h back and pull back.

Speaker 5 (02:03:59):
This British Brooks.

Speaker 16 (02:04:03):
British Brooks, that's him. He's been on the roster.

Speaker 6 (02:04:07):
I don't see him on the rock. Yeah, he says
he's active, so yes, British Brooks.

Speaker 16 (02:04:11):
That's right. That's the guy that that beat out the
fullbacks because he can play running back. They put him
at fullback in h back this last game and he
and he was blocking. He blocks real good, a.

Speaker 5 (02:04:22):
Little more versatility.

Speaker 16 (02:04:24):
Yes, that's exactly right. And that's you know, everybody can saying,
well they're not keeping a fullback. Well that's their fullback.
That's going to be their fullback.

Speaker 5 (02:04:32):
British Brooks. Good name too, man. Yeah he's from the US, right, Yeah, yeah, Calin.

Speaker 16 (02:04:42):
The reason I think they kept Woods over Brown because
you know how many games of Brown missed last year.
Of course, the Woods were hurt late in the season,
but Brown I think missed six or seven games. Plus
I think Woods is a better blocker. And then I
also think if you've got four or five guys, if
you got a five wide out or four, I think

(02:05:03):
Woods can work underneath underneath a whole lot better than
Brown works underneath.

Speaker 5 (02:05:07):
And I just think they trust his experience. I do. Yeah,
I have a big time. He'd been in some big moments,
and remember he came from the Rams at one point two,
and his head coach was Sean McVeigh. They run what offense.
Woods has been in this now for the year two.
He just knows these things and he's cagy man. I
like those guys that don't have to get a lot
of practice time and can still come in and get

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something done that it matters.

Speaker 16 (02:05:32):
Yeah, on third and six, he's not gonna catch your
five yards down the field. He's gonna catch the seven
yards downfield.

Speaker 5 (02:05:37):
And I'm good with it.

Speaker 16 (02:05:38):
I'm good with They care Goya football this weekend.

Speaker 5 (02:05:41):
Can't wait, yep, can't wait Friday. Will spend a lot
of time talking all as much possible, all day every
day when the Astros in college football all day Friday. Brother,
we got you. I can't wait.

Speaker 16 (02:05:50):
Hey, we and your boys are playing. Watch Sunday evening.

Speaker 5 (02:05:53):
Are the Sunday evening? Yeah, against LSU in Las Vegas.
That's exactly right, my mother.

Speaker 16 (02:05:57):
That's the nice one to have Sunday night.

Speaker 5 (02:05:59):
And yeah that may be that. Yeah, that'll be better
than the Sunday night football game. Yeah, well, we don't
have to wake up early on Monday. Good call by you, Matt.
I'm with you, brother. Thanks you too, real quick practice squad.
With this CBA, you can carry sixteen players on the
practice squad, up from the previous number of ten. Now,

(02:06:20):
of those sixteen, ten have to be rookies. That's why
I was asking about agent that. So ten have to
be rookies or second year players. So ten of the
sixteen you can need, they have to be. The other
six have no requirements. So a guy like Tim Boyle
who's been in the league for this is his fifth year,
or been in the league five years, five, six year,
if they wanted to, they can stick him on the

(02:06:41):
practice squad. And because because he's not a rookie of
one of the other six, if that's what they decide
to do, yeah, gotcha.

Speaker 6 (02:06:50):
So well they're gonna need to figure something out quarterback
wise because case Keenum was placed on IR.

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But there's a twist to it.

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him two questions and you got to answer this out
because you haven't answer to you now with Dana brown Cup,
we'll get back to football here in a minute. Hell,
you can stay the rest of the hour. That that
the are you convinced Kyle Tucker plays in sept I

(02:10:01):
give you the over under September fifteenth, when he's starting
in right field.

Speaker 13 (02:10:07):
Starting in right field. Yeah, I'll take the under. Okay,
really lying over, I do not think we will see
Kyle Tucker before September fifteen, So you.

Speaker 5 (02:10:17):
Go to over Welt. We both took the over to.
I say, you'll count your blessings if you get him
within the last week of September, last ten games of
the season.

Speaker 7 (02:10:25):
Apparently he's sprinting just heat to.

Speaker 5 (02:10:28):
Sixty percent, is what Joe Spot said. Did you hear
the audio that we're referring to.

Speaker 13 (02:10:33):
I didn't hear the audio you're talking about. I read
the report that he was sprinting, but I have not heard.

Speaker 5 (02:10:38):
Daughtie Sean alluded to it.

Speaker 6 (02:10:39):
Joe Spot in the same sentence said he's sprinting it,
what fifty to sixty percent, And then when they get
back this weekend holiday weekend, they said they hope to
have him run bases. And then he also said that
we hope in the first week of September he's back
with the big league club.

Speaker 13 (02:10:56):
Well, Dana Brown said the same thing. Dana Brown said,
we're shooting for first week of September. No one, Well,
he said early September, first week. This is the fifteenth
early September. That's middle September for me. So it's middle
all right. So you took the over, I took the old. Yes,
all right, you ain't going to get Hayward for nothing.

Speaker 5 (02:11:12):
You're going to get insurance insurance corner outfielder and can
DH for you too, and and a veteran experience and
knows how to play the post and off. Well, right
now today, if you had to go in and get
won at bat and the only two guys left were
Chas McCormick and and Jason Heyward, you're pinch hitting Hayward.

Speaker 7 (02:11:31):
Period, Isn't it wold? For sure? In't it wild?

Speaker 8 (02:11:34):
Like?

Speaker 13 (02:11:34):
What was a position to strength the outfield? There was
a surplus of outfit.

Speaker 5 (02:11:39):
They thought about trading a couple of them at the
trade that were talking about right, yeah, talked.

Speaker 13 (02:11:44):
About how deep is it really with the Tucker injury?
And now you're going to get Jay Hayleen.

Speaker 5 (02:11:51):
You want to know how deep? Not deep enough or
they wouldn't have got Hayward. All right, now, Question two.
Let's say Kyle Tucker's contract was up in twenty twenty five,
up in twenty three instead of twenty six. Okay, bregmaned
him both banged up. We had somebody ask us this
and pose the question if they were both up and
data had to negotiate both or another team they got

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chest to the free agent market. Who gets paid more
years and more money.

Speaker 7 (02:12:17):
Tuck's gonna get more years and more money. He's a
better player, younger.

Speaker 5 (02:12:21):
If you don't see him but a couple don't see
him but a couple weeks, the rest of the season
moves up a year.

Speaker 13 (02:12:26):
I think he gets a mulligan this year. This isn't
an acl this isn't an achilles, this isn't a ucl.

Speaker 5 (02:12:33):
This is freak injury.

Speaker 7 (02:12:34):
This is a shin contusion. For three months we caught it.

Speaker 5 (02:12:39):
We called a subdural hematoma. Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:12:44):
So because of the nature of the injury and what
he was before. I think tuk Tucks don't get his money.
I think talk, and this could be controversial, when we
get there, Talk should get a deal that has been
or is more significant than any thing jose L two
Vey has signed.

Speaker 5 (02:13:01):
Did I think that's fair? I think it is.

Speaker 7 (02:13:03):
I'm not saying age and all those things.

Speaker 5 (02:13:08):
Think about this. We're talking about these two guys in
that two forty to three hundred million, depending on the years.
Is that fair, bregnant?

Speaker 7 (02:13:14):
Fair? I don't think Bregg is in the three hundred.

Speaker 5 (02:13:16):
And five depending on the years, right, which averages out
to thirty MILLI year, somewhere in that part where the
best third basement are. Think about this. The floor for
Soto reported floors five hundred million.

Speaker 13 (02:13:32):
Did you last night the Mets and Yankees are expected
to go all out bidding war for the services of
one Sodo. If you're in the Yankees and you see
how this is working. They went back to back to back.
Granted that's just one inning, but it was three home
runs in that inning. It was what Judge Soto, Giancarlo

(02:13:53):
Stanton I think went, and I'm like, how do you
break that up?

Speaker 7 (02:13:57):
If you can afford it.

Speaker 5 (02:13:58):
There's no way how do you work that up? And
if you're on soda and both are close, stay away
from the Mets. You stay right where you're at in
that short porch and right field. The park is perfect,
exactly right, Beautiful fans listen. Matter of fact, Mets may
even offer me a million more a year. I'm not moving.
I'm not going to the Mets. He's having his best season.
Now you think about it. You know who he is,
twenty five, he's twenty five. It feels like he's been

(02:14:19):
in league twelve years.

Speaker 13 (02:14:21):
So this takes us and I don't know where you
want to go, but you just made me think, what
is your philosophy on compensating players regardless of professional sport?

Speaker 7 (02:14:28):
Obviously you've been there.

Speaker 5 (02:14:30):
And the philosophield or what for production or potential? What
are you talking about? This is what I'm asking. You're
a GM, you're Dana Brown. We're about to have him
a little bit as a station. How do you think
he or how would you look at Tuck? You paying
Tuck on?

Speaker 13 (02:14:45):
Last time we saw him, he was an MVP candidate
you're paying him on three time All Star, or you're
paying him all hey look bro banged up.

Speaker 5 (02:14:54):
And postseason old season didn't show up last year. Here's
the order. I've seen enough of him to say that season,
I think is an aberration. I think he's better than that, right.
I'm potential first, and I don't think where they've gone
without Kyle Tucker has any effect on his contract. I
don't that they've won without him. I actually think they'd
be winning it. They'd even be better with him. I do,

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and I don't think that's going to come into it
trying to convince an agent, well, we won these many
games that he's not valuable. Then the agent will say,
oh really, okay, hang on a second, and then go
you play the field and go out, and that somebody
else is going to find him more valuable than there's
always somebody else. I'm production first, potential second, and those
the other little smattering of how was he in the postseason?

(02:15:38):
Is the All Star? All those things that I think
are pretty obvious to me. It's I'm putting the that
injury that it's a freak injury. It's not like one
of those are he's not working out he's kind of
fat and out of shape, constant hammy, and he's built
for baseball. That's he was durable as I never missed.

Speaker 7 (02:15:56):
The games every year.

Speaker 5 (02:15:59):
You think it was the best all around player on
this team.

Speaker 7 (02:16:01):
No argument for me.

Speaker 5 (02:16:02):
I think he has the best life. So he's gonna
get paid. The question is it's gonna be less for
more his fortunate This would suck for him. He'd still
get paid, but not as much. This would suck for
him if his contract was due with pregnants right now, right,
it would suck for him money wise.

Speaker 13 (02:16:17):
I know we're out, yeah, the Astros, and it's on
our show as you guys here, that organizational arrogance, I
wonder if it shows up. There are people that believe
we'll be fine, We'll get back to another ALCS without pregnant.

Speaker 7 (02:16:31):
There are people that believe staying.

Speaker 13 (02:16:32):
They come and gone, gord In and I go back
and for a spring of career, Brentley mald Yuli bring
all of them, Garrett Cole coming gone? We still can
you do that without talk?

Speaker 8 (02:16:43):
Well?

Speaker 7 (02:16:43):
Here's is he different than those other dudes?

Speaker 5 (02:16:45):
How many times you can drink from the well before
the well's finally empty? At some point in time, you
rob Peter, you eventually are gonna have to pay for it.
And at some point the chickens are going to come
home to roosts him and his craft.

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I hear it in the mor.

Speaker 5 (02:17:01):
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Bouncing.

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Speaker 5 (02:18:38):
Yeah astros GM for his weekly visit nine thirty on Wednesdays.
The first place, Houston National is three and a half
in front. I know that's a music to all our ears.
We've got to continue this grind. Dana, welcome in. Let
me start with Verlander. After two starts, give me your
baseball inside analysts about analysis about his performance and how
you break it down.

Speaker 8 (02:19:00):
Yeah, I would say, you know, the first outing was
a little better than the second one. The second one
he made one bad pitch that was the breaking ball
that Castiano's hit out, But overall, he showed the arm strength,
the ability to execute his secondary stuff at times, and

(02:19:20):
so you know, ultimately, I'm very pleased that he's back
and he's starting to really fill it.

Speaker 5 (02:19:27):
Dana, this may sound odd, but we were talking on
this show about Verlander and about how great he's been
a first ballot Hall of Fame career, But when it
gets down to the season goes along like he's pitching
now and coming back from this rehab and getting back
after this injury. When you make decisions on you know,
like postseason and win to pitch a guy, does lifetime
achievement award, how good he's been, trump where he is now?

(02:19:51):
Do you kind of factor him both in experience in
the postseason, like in a big game, if you had
two guys available and you said we're going with Verlander.
Does lifetime achievement and experience and past have something to
do with that on the decision?

Speaker 8 (02:20:05):
Well, I think it's a combination of a few things.
You know, it's current ability to execute stuff. How good
is your stuff? And can you get guys out right?
And I think he can do all of those things.
And so you know, if you can't execute pitches, if
your stuff is down, if you're you know, if you're

(02:20:28):
a Hall of Famer, it's still going to be tough,
you know, to make postseason rosters and different things like that.
I remember, you know, when I was in Toronto, we
had to left I forget his name. He didn't make
the postseason team, but he was really good at left
handed pitcher pitch steers in Chicago. That one stands out

(02:20:49):
for me. But ultimately, you know, sometimes guys don't make it,
but it's usually when the stuff is way down and
they can't execute pitches anymore. I don't see that's the
cats for Erlander at all.

Speaker 5 (02:21:03):
Dana, do you how much weight does experience over production
while it's going on? Meaning like if a rookie or
a Renel Blanc who's third, he pitched a lot of
baseball but hasn't been out there spinning the ball in
postseason or in like a single elimination type moment in
YOURMA Just for you as a as a front office
guy and has been great in scouting people, and you're

(02:21:25):
the GM. How often in your mind does experience or
lack thereof trump the other one production over experience are basically,
does it make you cringe to start a guy in
the postseason that may not have postseason experience?

Speaker 10 (02:21:40):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (02:21:40):
No, it wouldn't make me cringe. You know, if you
have a big time frontline guy with power stuff and
he doesn't have any experience in the postseason, you know,
I would say, look, ultimately, you know this guy can
if he has really good stuff to get futest pitches.

(02:22:01):
You know, you know he's got a chance to start,
you know. But trying to stay away from all of
the hypotheticals, but ultimately, for a guy to pitch in
the postseason, you want him to have pretty good stuff
in the ability to execute. And sometimes you may have
a veteran guy. Sometimes you may have a rookie and
you may roll with it.

Speaker 5 (02:22:22):
Familiarity matters too. You bring in Jason Hayward, I mean
you're obviously familiar with him. A guy who's got experience
can play corner outfields, DH and I'm not telling you
anything you don't know. For the people who are listening
and a guy who's got postseason experience. So what was
the major factor in bringing Jason Hayward to Houston.

Speaker 8 (02:22:42):
Well, as it relates to Hayward, Hayward's is he's a
free agent. So I'm not able to really discuss, you know,
Hayard right now. Well, ultimately, you know, we we feel
like we could use some more offense, and so you know,
we are in the grind and so hopefully, you know,
we can we can get that done in the future.

(02:23:04):
We could try to figure out who we can bring in.

Speaker 5 (02:23:07):
What are his strengths, just as an overall player, who's
strengths Haywards?

Speaker 8 (02:23:15):
Yeah, yeah, I mean Hayward. You know, he's he's had
a long time career. He executed well last year, you know,
decent this year versus RITI, And so ultimately, you know,
a guy like Heyward, he's got talent still and then
and not to mention the postseason experience and things like that,

(02:23:38):
fair enough.

Speaker 5 (02:23:38):
Dana Brown astros GM joins us here for his weekly
nine to thirty visit Data. You mentioned runs concerned about
offensive production and slugging right.

Speaker 8 (02:23:47):
Now, Yeah, I just think our guys, you know, we
hit this downward slope over the last few games. You know,
we we haven't been able to really come through with
the big hits, and so I mean, ultimately, I like
where our guys are in terms of, Look, we've fought

(02:24:09):
through this, We've shown grit. You know, we've got gamers
on this team. But you know, this road trip, we
haven't been able to get the big hit, you know,
and put some runs on the board, and so you know,
that little struggle has cost us a couple of games.
But you know, ultimately we're still three and a half
up with thirty to go, and you know, the boys

(02:24:32):
are playing well. You know, we did hit a bump there, know, offensively,
and we hit a little bit of a bump defensively
as well. But ultimately, I'm very proud of the guys.
These guys are grinding through it and it's a long season,
and you know, I think we're in a good spot.

Speaker 5 (02:24:50):
All right. How long in a perfect world, meaning these
last thirty games, how long do you go with the
six man rotation?

Speaker 8 (02:24:59):
Yeah, I just the six man rotation definitely through this
stretch of eighteen games, for sure that we have. And
then we'll circle back after this and see where do
we go from here. I think having a six man
rotation at this point in the season, it really gives
our guys that extra day to get a little bit

(02:25:20):
of a breather. And I think when every each one
of these guys, when they go out, we have an
opportunity to win those ball games. So when you can
run out six quality starters that are going to give
you pretty good starts and give you a chance to
win the game, I think that's a good thing this
late in the season, and I think it really gives

(02:25:41):
your guys that extra day of rest where you've got
a chance to really power through this.

Speaker 5 (02:25:47):
Dan to take me through I'm ocd when it comes
like the preparation and the routine doing the same thing
and leading up to a game and you've been in
baseball solong seeing them as well. With that six n rotation,
is there any I don't know offset to the some
of these players like to know that fifth day, here's
what I'm starting. I like my routine. I don't like

(02:26:07):
it disrupted. Can that be? Is there any part to
that or is it? Rest is far more important than
routine for players pitchers, especially at this point in the season.

Speaker 8 (02:26:18):
I think this point in the season. That extra day
of rest is welcomed by most starters around the game.
And so, as I've always said, you know, guys try
to get you know, close at possible to thirty starts
each year, and honestly, these starts they wear you down
and it's a grind. And so anytime you can get

(02:26:40):
an extra day's rest and it doesn't cost you games,
I think that's that's a good thing. The routine is, hey,
I'm going to throw every five or six days. I mean,
that's still a pretty good routine. It's just adding that.
It's just adding that extra day which gives you know,
the guy a little bit more zip on his stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:27:01):
Astro GM Dana Brown for a few more minutes here
on his weekly nine to thirty visit on Sports Talk
seven ninety. All right, let me get to the starters,
the everyday player. Thirty games to go. You mentioned that
it's a season of marathon. But we're at that sprint
part now staven Off, Seattle and whoever else, And were
you meaning you guys at Houston, Astro, So I'll ask
you this, are we expecting minimal rest from the everyday players?

Speaker 24 (02:27:25):
Now?

Speaker 5 (02:27:25):
Is it show up? Not even have to look at
the lineup card because you know you're in it. How
do you approach it the last thirty games?

Speaker 8 (02:27:32):
Yeah, I mean that's a Joe question, but I would
think that you know, we're going to have our better
guys in there for the most part every day. I
think we were able to give some guys a little
bit of a breather during this stretch of eighteen. I
thought that was important, but it's pretty much go time
with thirty to go and three and a half up,

(02:27:53):
and so I would expect, you know, guys are going
to be in the grind every day, the better players
for sure.

Speaker 5 (02:28:00):
With the Kyle Tucker stuff, just like trying to figure
out math. I know there's no exact timeframe, but we
talk about labor days coming through, no minor league assignment.
He's sprinting now and I think Joe said fifty to
sixty percent of his max sprint, so he sees that.
And you've talked about batting practice and the rest of it.
So I'll ask you where's the optimism or we're the

(02:28:21):
realistic part of because if he comes back and you
say six seven, five games at minor league, I mean,
are we looking at mid to late September now, because
there's there's no way it's happened in the first week
of September, is it.

Speaker 8 (02:28:34):
No, I'm still optimistic about you know, him coming back
within the first ten days of September. So I think
he's you know, getting at least I think it's close
to the sixty seventy percent back in terms of full sprint,
so it's somewhere in that area. Maybe he has one

(02:28:54):
or two sprints where it looks really good, but he's
pretty much sprinting now. I've always said that this is
the type of injury that once you start to feel better,
it'll come quick and it's going to be more about
getting the legs in shape running bases that type of thing,
because the swing gets a swing, and once he gets

(02:29:17):
his legs in shape, it's going to be go time.
So I'm still optimistic about it being before the tenth.

Speaker 5 (02:29:25):
Through that pain threshold. Real quick about this data is
is there a difference for him and the pain from
straight line running as opposed to putting your foot into
second base and getting the third on a you know,
on a base hitting the corner to right, if you're
the guy on first base or you're you're turning your
you're heading into the gap and you got to dive.
Is the lateral movement of problem or is the pain

(02:29:45):
threshold same both ways?

Speaker 21 (02:29:48):
I think the pain.

Speaker 8 (02:29:49):
Threshold is the same both ways. It's just a little
bit discomfort. Nown so he's he's getting through the pain threshold.
You know, just as an athlete, it's easier to sprint straight.

Speaker 5 (02:30:02):
Oh that's just for sure.

Speaker 8 (02:30:03):
Stuff. You know, when you when you have to when
you have to make a cut or a turn of
a base or anything like that, that's going to be
more difficult, you know, whether you're one hundred percent or
fifty percent. So ultimately, I think that you know, the pain,
the discomfort or whatever you want to call it, it's

(02:30:23):
it's minimum now. And so you can see that, and
it's sprints. He's cutting through cones and doing things like
that right now. And so he's he's just about that,
And I mean, I feel good about it. Like I said,
you know, we get him out and get him on
some type of rehab and and and get him in

(02:30:43):
there as quickly as we can.

Speaker 10 (02:30:45):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (02:30:46):
And I've always said this thing's gonna go quick once
he feels better.

Speaker 5 (02:30:49):
Any hunter or idea on September call ups or the
process you're going to go through to bring the couple
players up. Who that might be.

Speaker 8 (02:30:58):
Yeah, when we get home, we're going to talk about it. So,
you know, we we've discussed it some, but we really
have to get into the grit and the grind of it,
you know, to figure out who we're going to call up,
what positions we feel like we need a little bit
more depth in, and so we're going to have those
discussions when we get back to Houston.

Speaker 5 (02:31:18):
Let me ask you this before you go. Are you
more comfortable depth wise right now? Or more secure in
the outfield or the infield?

Speaker 10 (02:31:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (02:31:26):
I mean deathwise. You know, I feel good about both,
but uh, you know, once we.

Speaker 22 (02:31:31):
Get Tucker back, of course, right obviously, once we have
Tucker back, yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:31:35):
I feel good about both. But right now, as it stands,
I feel better about the infield. But when we get
Tucker back, I'll feel a whole lot better, you know
about the outfield.

Speaker 5 (02:31:45):
Yeah, and everybody will be able to take a deep
sign and say, Okay, this star is back. That'll be
nice and great news. And hopefully we'll get that by
this time next week, Dana. Hopefully it'll be like, Okay,
a couple more starts in the minor leagues and we're
ready to get him up here and get going. That'll
be great. Good luck in Philly today, big one and uh,
this could be a rematch of what we all hope
for come you know, October. We look forward to it

(02:32:05):
and great stuff and we'll talk to you next Wednesday.
Dana and happy uh labor. They enjoy the weekend.

Speaker 8 (02:32:10):
Man, all right, I appreciate you, guys. And once we
get all players back and we get on all so
there's this, it's go time and we've got a chance
to really put some space in between first and septer place.

Speaker 5 (02:32:23):
Better to be up by three, better to be up
by three and a half than down by three and
a half. Good on you. We'll look forward to talking
to you next week. Thanks hey man, brother, appreciate it.
Thanks Dana. That's data Brown astros GM. We'll come back
and discuss it and finish up and interesting. They're a
hard belief and I mean hardcore. And Kyle Tucker being
in before the fifteenth, right, I hope that. I hope

(02:32:45):
he's around it. I hope he's right. I hope he's right.
We'll talk and get back. Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (02:32:52):
For the Sean Salsbury Show continued.

Speaker 5 (02:32:56):
Ten days. Huh, Kyle Tucker, Well, it takes twenty one
days to break a habit. I don't know what that
means for tenday, twenty one day to break.

Speaker 20 (02:33:09):
I have it.

Speaker 6 (02:33:10):
I'm still optimistic of back the first ten days of September.
He's pretty much sprinting down. Once he gets his legs
in shape, it's go time.

Speaker 5 (02:33:17):
Yep.

Speaker 12 (02:33:18):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (02:33:18):
You know what I'm saying that song I was singing right,
little Sarah Evans. You know I heard it takes twenty
one days of break. I have it, So hopefully any
one days on the road, I hope that. I hope
Dana Brown spot on with this. Did we get him
by the you know, the tenth? He said?

Speaker 6 (02:33:33):
You know what my dad used always tell me what's
that hope in one hand and bleep in the other,
and tell me which one comes full first.

Speaker 5 (02:33:40):
Yeah, I would learn from a coach. One day, wishing
will work. I mean, working will wishing won't. There you go,
Kyle Tucker's been working, so I like it.

Speaker 6 (02:33:48):
Hey, some news out of the NFL as we get
ready to get out of here and hand it off
to Stan and Chris Cordy. Dalvin Cook signing with the Cowboys,
Go de Cook? Yeah right, you don't want to mess
with d Cook. They ain't winning in January.

Speaker 5 (02:34:08):
He might have some fresh legs though. Didn't get a
lot of work last didn't you. And again, if you
missed the uh interview with Dalvin cooks are running back?
You know Brown, it's on our podcast Sports seven dot com.
Dalvin Cook, We we just signed him. We got Ezekiel,
Elliott Ezekiel's back. Nothing in the tank. We gave him

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