Astros GM Dana Brown Speaks At Winter Meetings, Kyle Tucker Trade Talks, Chris Myers Joins The Show

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsby.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Sewan Salisbury, usc truths, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Brian Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Sewn Salisbury, Brian Lima, Manuel Elmore. Texans getting ready for
the Dolphins this week and winter meetings at Major League
Baseball continue. A lot of astros talk at those winter
meetings will dig into that Heisman Trophy finalists announced. Ashton Genty,

(00:38):
Travis Hunter, Dylan Gabriel cam Ward are your finalists. Bengals
beat the Cowboys last night in Monday Night Football, Shawn
Triple League.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Good morning's happening? Well, you know, Joe Burrow's drip needs
to change. Good morning terrible could be for a great player.
He's just as bad a dresser. It's awful. Guy's got
to stop. It's awful.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
I can't. How do you like that for starting off?
For Joe Burrow's outfit suck, it's embary. He is a
horrible dresser. Am I right or wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
You're right? And you know I love the guy from
from here to Tim Buck too heat. His outfit last
night was the worst. It looks like well, the Ringling
Brothers and Barton Bailey circus starts soon. You know when
you go when you were a kid, or when you
when you were younger and you took your kids to
like the pediatrician and they had that carpet with like

(01:37):
the toys on it, it looked like he was wearing
the carpet.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yeah, well he's trying too hard to look like something
he ain't. Okay, whatever that is, It is like that
he's like introducing new fashion.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Don't introduce that, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Matter of fact, he could have wore the outfit last
night as they sit around the tree the night before
drink hot chocolate at Christmas. It looked awful. A man
and a guy play some football. But yeah, it all
is good.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
I was.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
I was hit with this, you know, I actually thinking
about these baseball players and like Bregman leaving and stuff.
I needed to call Oopstein Cleaning to clean up the
throw up on the ground, thinking if we're gonna lose Bregford.
But if he's going to Boston, I don't really feel
sorry for you, Brian, right, Sorry.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well I said it last year that if he was
gonna leave, I thought he was gonna go to to Boston. Yeah,
so apparently Boston's in heavy pursuit. The Yankees have thrown
their name in the hat after losing out on Juan Soto.
Alex Cora had really high praise for Alex Bregman. Obviously
Alex Cora was here when Bregman made his debut. Yeah,

(02:44):
they were tight. So yeah, there's a lot going on
at those winter meetings. And then apparently got audio from
Ashlew's ger r. Yeah he uh, don't listen to listen
to anybody shipping when it comes to any player, So
ship him. Kyle Tucker and frommer Valdez. Are they on
the trade block coming up at seven point thirty? I

(03:09):
don't know if it's gonna be a seven thirty. We
probably talked about it this hour, but yeah, apparently there's
that too. And then you know, your boy Scatabow got
snubbed from the highest traf I get invited to the
to New York probably you know what you said it
you said yesterday the ground swell was just a little
bit too late for that kid, very much.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
So if that would have started in October, yeah, he
was still playing great football in October. Yeah, excuse me,
but nobody was given Arizona State much of a shot,
and here they are in the you know, with the
top four seed.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I uh I.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
In truth, if in fact Tucker plays like Kyle Tucker's
capable of which we see during the regular season, and
has a decent postseason, and if they don't get in
the postseason next year and he plays well, and you're
going to live by what you are standards wise here
about how you pay people in the years, you can't

(04:01):
sign him. No, So if that, if that truly is
the case, then trade him. If honestly, why wait, prospects,
I mean, why wait? If you know, if the guy
has a decent season, he's going to get two fifty
or what should I say, twenty five to thirty million

(04:22):
a year. If he has an MVP caliber season, the guy's.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Going to make three hundred million dollars, then you're not
going to you won't sniff a chance, and then you
won't get anything for him. Yeah, yep, meaning I mean,
now you can get a hall for him. There's somebody
standing out there that would freaking love him. Oh yeah,
a bunch of them. I love him here. I told you,
I think he's the best all around player on the team.
But postseason that hasn't borreed itself out. But during the
regular season when the guy's and he's been durable until.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
This past year. Yes, I don't see how if you
know you're going to live by your plan. For instance,
let's say Bregman leaves and it's or one hundred and
eighty five million two No, let's give him the two
hundred million he wants, and you're not paying it for

(05:09):
a guy who's been here for me. And I'm I'm
not faulting them either way. They've they've they've stood on
business and it's worked for them. So if they continue
to stand on that business and they don't, they're not
gonna budget much from you know, a little, there's a
little leeway. But get excuse me to the big dogs
are paying and and and Bregman walks. Isn't that just

(05:29):
a isn't that a flashing me on sign you're not
signing Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
I don't think they have a chance in hell to
sign Kyle Tucker to be honest with you. Oh right,
if he has a good season again, regular season, stays healthy.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
It's three hundred million dollars three hundred or two eighty
somewhere in that whatever. Even if it's two fifty, right,
they're not going that. They're not going no, okay, So
with that, why why.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Why not move him? Who asked us the other day
it was a caller was a rob Anyway, a caller
asked us if we would think about eating Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
I always think about it. I like Dana Brown said,
we'll entertain. Well, we'll entertain. I mean, we'll take calls
and everything's always on the board. I'm taking every call.
Like I said, there's very few sacred cows in sports.
Very few. One plays with the Dodgers. Another one was
in New England for a while when he was a quarterback,

(06:24):
and there's very few of them right now. Can't see
he's got one. I mean that just that are so
impactful on your franchise that you cannot win without him
for the moment. When I say win, I'm talking about
they just make everything that much better. They just do
Elijah want was a sacred cow here, Jordan Byrd. We
know those guys. Hell, it feels like there was more

(06:45):
of them then than now around sports, but there's not
a lot of them. So when somebody makes me a call,
you make me an offer I can refuse. I'm not
beholding to keep you here forever because the fans want
to be happy about it.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, that's not if that that's not.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
If you lived like that eventually backfires on you because
we as fans always react with too much emotion. Hell yeah,
I mean, and you know how I feel about Tucker did.
But if you're telling me that this is the stand,
this is how you're going to run the business, and
it's been successful for you, So I don't blame mister
Crane for change not changing a like quantum like where

(07:23):
it's like I'm just going to do something one hundred
and eighty degrees different than I've done. If they do
this with Bregman, if they're not willing to go from
from what they're offering now one fifty six or one
sixty range to two hundred for forty million over six
years or fifty million over six years, you think they're
going three hundred million for eight years or seven years,

(07:44):
or two hundred and eighty million for Kyle Tucker. No, no,
no chance, they're not going to.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
So I try.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
I would listen to every call, and if I got
the right offer, I would have no problem trading because
you're going to go through the risk of getting something
you know what, would he get some compensatory pick, right,
So you're going to go through the that that may
not even be on the map. You never even know
that guy's going to make your roster, right yep, or
get through the minor league. So to me, I would,
I would. I know it sounds harsh, Well we can't. Yeah, yeah,

(08:13):
you can't because if you don't and you go by
the normal standard of how you do business, you're not
going to be able to sign him. He will leave,
especially if he comes out fully healthy and comes out
like Gangbusters and plays like a three hundred million dollar
player your host.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
So yeah, I would.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
And as the days go on, you really feel to
you like that Alex Bregman is going to be a
Houston astro.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
No, I feel like he's it's like ninety ten right
now now mind? Yeah, to me, it's it's gotten up
to like ninety five and five.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah, and Adamas with all the it's not Soto's contract
that's done this. The guy like Willie Adamas has right
because he elevated. It's like, damn, that guy gets that
I've been doing this kicking ask for on a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, I'm I don't.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
I don't see how it's gonna I don't see how
it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
If you think that the Astros a shot of signing
Alex Bregman, oh, I'm sorry, Kyle Tucker. It's like what
Kyle Tucker and you think they have a chance to
sign him for over two hundred million million dollars. You
need to look at just the size of the contracts
that they have offered since Jim Crane has been the owner.
The highest one was Jose al Tuve seven years, one

(09:20):
hundred and sixty three and a half million dollars. They
signed Ordon Alvarez for six years, one hundred and fifteen million,
and then of course Josh Hader this past offseason ninety
five million dollars, which right now with.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
Lord on Alvarez is the biggest bargain in baseball, biggest
steel of all of.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
What did that? What's the average yearly?

Speaker 5 (09:44):
So let's see, so once it kicked in, you know
when they signed the extension six for one fifteen and
what is nineteen?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's not it's an aav of nineteen. But the way
they did it. They it was like ten million each year,
and then it kicks up to Bathlow. They backloaded it
for the last three years when it kicks up to
twenty six point eight.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Okay, but I do have to wait, what year is
he in this contract? Year is he into it?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
He's got let's see one two through way, Well, twenty
twenty four already happens, so one, two, three four, so
he's got four years left on this contract. So and
how old is he? You're not twenty six, twenty six?
I think, let's see twenty seven. So he's gonna be
thirty one when it's done. Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, because

(10:31):
we talked about yesterday. Yeah, because he'll be right around
Alex Bregnan's age thirty thirty one.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
And you know the crazy thing about it is as
a thirty one year old most of the time, DH
who can play the outfield, he's not gonna get three
hundred million. You'll think, no, even if he just rakes
like he's maybe won't get three hundred million, but forty

(10:55):
million a year's oh yeah, okay, you know, like like
get the higher per year, right, it won't be a
ten year deal. They won't do it because they'll also
because of a big fellow, what ease they'll make, they'll.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Create that narrative.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
But five years at forty million, yeah, that could happen, Yeah,
no question. But I want you to think about that
bargain right now. Yeah, what you're getting for him? And
that's four years left, four more years we're gonna be
in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
This roster will be completely different, way different, and.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
Josel TV will be about ready to say goodbye, yeah
and retire and go into the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
We talked about this a couple of weeks ago, how
important this offseason was gonna be for the Astros, and
I asked you in a steak. I don't know if
it was a stake out or not, but we talked
about that window. Right, you lose Alex Bregman, if you
trade Kyle Tucker fromer Valdez apparently could be on the
trading block as well. There's three big time pieces of
your team. If you trade those guys, well, the windows

(11:55):
what in the hell? Then you're preparing for the when
when uh Jordan's contracts up, that those young players have
flourished or are now starting all over again and building
a Baltimore ools Young's thing like they did originally with
Karey and Bredman. That grid your story. If they hit
like those guys did. I can tell you this.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
If Tucker gets traded and Bregman isn't here and you
really don't know what's going on with Fromer and you're
waiting for guys like you know, Lance mc colors to
get healthy and Garsa all those things, the window's not
slam shut. But they're no longer considered a five or
top five or sixteen in baseball. They've been by they
will have been bypassed by a handful of taps. And
you know what, even even when, but it won't be

(12:36):
the you expect World Series every year even No, No,
that that stretch of ALCS runs obviously it then excuse me,
what the loss of the Tigers this past season.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
But yeah, that that streak's gonna that's not gonna happen again. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
So but back to Kyle Tucker, we can talk about
it more if in fact, you are not going do
you know you're not going to pay him now? I
know you try to. You're trying to milk another season
out of it and win a champiship I get it,
but you're gonna have to step aside from that. And honestly,
if if that's the case, you know you're not gonna
pay him, You're gonna have to get bodies for him.

(13:12):
You can't let back to back guys walking free agency
back to back, and the Korea thing, and in truth,
right now, the pain of thing looks tweener. I mean,
the first year was off the charts, but it looks
tweener over. I think we know the Krey is the
better player, yeah, and the paint has got that ability,

(13:34):
but the performance on the field, Korea still holds that card.
So you start to thinking you can't keep doing it
and expect I mean, if that's the case, then you
you are starting to say that we're not tearing it down,
but we're piecing it together.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, a different way.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
But I don't think you can let the talk about
trading Bregman at the trade deadline, remember which you may
have got. Now you realize you're not getting much now
if if he leaves, and then with Kyle Tucker, same way.
At some point time you got to say I'm gonna
have to put another body out there and get somebody
else because I can't afford to lose him when I
could get four or five.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Players for him right at his age. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
If that's the approach and you're not gonna go by
what you believe in your business strategy, you have to
consider trading, not even waiting for calls. You have to
make calls concerning you gotta getgress exactly right. Yeah, you
just have to. And it may bother people. The fact
of the matter is this happens to every friggin franchise
that has great success.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
It just does. Yeah, Yeah, there's no question, all right.
General manager Dana Brown spoke to the media yesterday at
the Winter meetings and he talked about potential trades. What
exactly did he say about fromer Valdez and Kyle Tucker.
We got the audio, we'll hear it, discuss the next
and we'll also take your call. Seven one, three, two, two, five,
seven nine of us roll along right here on the
Seawn Salisbury Show.

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of your Rockets.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Whoa that late?

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Did it sounds sounds racist when you dog lady like, yeah,
you hate white country girls hate whitey. Yeah, you hate whitey.
It's amazing, don't you think triple A a little bit
of a whitey hatred by Trian?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, a little bit. Have you ever noticed it hating
something and hatred sounds what sounds worse? Oh he hated it?
Or so much hate?

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Hatred sounds it does like, yeah, your hatred for lady
Wilson's palpable.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Hey man, let me ask you a question. Let me
peel a curtain back here for the for the listeners.
You you always there's a couple of things I know
about you. Pause you'll bring in a protein bar, yeah,
a bottle of water. Yeah, sometimes coffee like this morning
from black right medium roast black.

Speaker 8 (16:22):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
You know how I like my coffee?

Speaker 9 (16:24):
Right?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah? What do we do with your water selection over
the last couple of days? Man, Well, here's what's happening.
I got a real major issue. Yeah. So do I
time wise? You know the time wise stores?

Speaker 10 (16:34):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (16:34):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Walk the time Why walk the time wise? That's what
they do when you walk?

Speaker 5 (16:39):
And there's like three along the way on my on
my journey rock every day in my route, my route?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Are you a root or route route? Route? Guy? Yea tripa?
Are you going a root or a route?

Speaker 5 (16:50):
I got to take the rat that was out home right,
So the one right by my house they've get.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
They changed the time. They don't open it like all night.
They're not open all night.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
They quit that certain amount of hours overnight, so they
don't open until six. So I can't get my Now
I got to go and buy big bos of water
of the essentia, which is what you're talking about, which
i'd like to see that. It kind of cuts into
your O c DA even though it's not you, but
it's me yesterday.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I know, what are we doing.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
It's the only one I could that was available to buy.
I brought this from home from Head to Head Texas Star. Right,
that's fine. So they shut that down, so my routine
got into my O c D. So then I chose
another one. Started going there, which is the one that
just right when I get on ten out there in
full show about a month later, it's like it's like

(17:45):
a rolling blackout.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
They did the same thing that that.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Oh yeah, and now the other one is just off
as you come past the city center and it's is
it Bingle and Voss right over there?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Can get off?

Speaker 5 (18:01):
You go down there's a Mick Mickey D's Nuts with
a time Wise there as well. Yeah, And I start
going there and then I this this little Hispanic family,
the husband and wife there, she's every single day they're
there at the same time I am going there, going
to Mickey. She gets coffee because they're cleaning up like
apartments and stuff. They I found out such a I mean,
I like loved by time you gotta go to the

(18:23):
she was how you doing today and just going her
and her husband grabbing coffee, boom going and working their
ass off. I mean every day like clockwork. So a
week ago they now with that rolling that one. Now
none of them are open twenty four hours. They've cut
all those overnight, so it doesn't open till six and
then I'm I'm here damn near here at work. So
if I don't buy it the day before, you know,

(18:45):
I can't get a powerball ticket in the morning, I
can't get me my you know, a health food bar up.
I haven't got in my assentia water. So I just
grab bag grabb an ass man, you know what I'm saying,
Just playing.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
A grab ass. Yeah, it sucks, it does. It sucks,
but I did stop and give me a large black coffee.
Here you go from zig Zigglers right and if you
Ziggy's coffee out there in the Katie fulsh you know
where you went to the wedding on fourteen sixty three,
right across right across the literally you could throw I
mean from right field. You probably have a pop gun
arm when you're you know that you probably could you

(19:18):
know a side armed guy that that's going yeah yeah,
side armed two sever guy in right.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Field doesn't really work for acturacy. And Kyle Tucker's got
the most great twelve to six. Oh yeah, you talk
about a guy who comes over to that ole reaches
hitchy machine one arm, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
The one, it's the truth. It's the arm comes.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Yeah, and you tell guys get you know, good high release,
high release, that dude's stag is reached. I mean, if
you're behind him and there's a grandfather clock, that he
gets to twelve o'clock quarterbacks around one thirty, because at
twelve o'clock it's gonna brush your ear. But nobody throws
over the top better than him. Well from where you were, yeah, yeah,
I mean you'll you'll throw Ziggy out at home plate.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's where that is.

Speaker 8 (19:59):
Huh.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
Yeah, it's all fourteen sixty three. Yeah, where all that
construction is real cozy and horrible. Oh, they say it's
so bad.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Good.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
Now they're building the overpass on ten ninety three to
take the toll road to diy died. It's twenty twenty
seven and I'm living and I'm stuck right.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
You know that's fine though, because I don't think we're
going to have very many parades around the city here.
This it's the rockets, because Rocket Rocket's going to be the.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
First, maybe the next parade if this keeps up the
way they play.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
So there it is. I know. I like how you
pointed it out, tough slooding on my waters. Are we
really about to go into a time where the Astro's
window is getting smaller and smaller and smaller.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Oh, it's getting smaller. The question is, like I said,
it's not slam shut. But you know how you get in?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
You say, hey, man, dude, suck you suck your you know.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
When you're like getting out of the truck, when you
tinge in, when you park your truck.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, get skinny.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Yeah, and you don't want to sing your door, so
you got to get real skinny. You might have to
get skinny, slide through that window. Bregman doesn't sign, and
all of a sudden you start entertaining office from Tucker
for Tucker.

Speaker 12 (20:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
Yeah, So basically you've lost, Like I said, if you
lose Bregman, you've lost Bregman Kokuchi in three prospects.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, since the end of the season.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah, some in the middle, but overall right, since the
end of the season, three prospects you had plans for.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
And I'm okay with it.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
I was okay with the three I'd have been far
more okay with it if they'd have paid Kokuchi, right,
and then with the Bregman thing. The closer it creeps
to two hundred mil, the less chance that they have.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
So yeah, it could be.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
And right now, as we pose the question we'll talk
about today.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
What's more likely?

Speaker 5 (21:33):
It's probably more likely to go one in two or
two and one right in this with the Texans. But
what's more likely of these two scenarios that they go
zero to three and are sitting at eight and eight
in week A game seventeen, week eighteen, or they go
three and oh and are sitting at eleven and five
and sating there saying we are a major player in January?

(21:55):
Which one's more likely to happen? And you can't give
me two and one? That's the that's the push when
it comes to betting that two and one or one
and two, right, yeah, give me the what's most likely
to happen? If I said this about Kansas City, you'd
say three and oh, right, for sure. If I said
it about Buffalo, you'd say three and oh yes, even
though it would be a tough run. Maybe most of
the answers would be a two and one type of

(22:16):
thing with the Texans and they will take into the
whole account of what's going on. What you've seen this year, Yeah,
what's more likely to happen?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Oh man.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
So that answers that part, and we just got to
continue to sustain this, meaning the Rockets do and the
young boy you know, as the season goes on, to
be able to play sixty games in like you're playing now.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah. They've also got the NBA Cup quarterfinals tomorrow night.
I know you can't wait playing Golden State. I love
the Cup. I know Triple E loves that Cup too.
It's right here at Toyota Center tomorrow night. Well, we'll
dive into that tomorrow. Then we'll dive in. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Do you guys realize let me just say something to you.

(22:56):
Fifteen days until Christmas? Yeah? Does it feel like Christmas
to sure doesn't. I was literally seventy degrees. I was
literally thinking that all my drive in this morning. Doesn't
it bum me out? Though? It does bumm me out
every the spirit and time?

Speaker 5 (23:09):
Yeah, it bums me out. I want that feel. It's
the it's the journey up to Christmas. Christmas Day is
always onum, but it's a journey, the.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Excitement walking around Christmas shopping with a little coffee in
your hands. People watches and why don't we you know what?
When did Christmas caroling quit? Wow?

Speaker 5 (23:26):
When did people quit stop knocking at the door? It
was pre long before, pre before COVID, COVID.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
But when's the last time you had somebody in neighborhood
walk up and ten kids and ten adults just to
do it for you know, a week before Christmas are
singing at your door? Yeah, I don't know, I missing,
even though sometimes you go it's like, oh, here they are.
But then they're stand out there singing and say, you
know what, it's cold out. They got a beanie on,
take some spirit. You get into the spirit. You want

(23:53):
to do it? I would do it tomorrow. We'll bring
it back. Yeah, we get off air. Let's let's start
doing it. Just starting here. To the other studios. I
think they'd be pissed.

Speaker 13 (24:01):
Hey we're on are here?

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah? Sometimes radio people are the best of boods. Are No,
let's your sky mike down. The sky's always there. I
mean he has to deal with ker fuffals. Yeah, exactly,
Big rig Kevin. Where are we at? Where we at?
Here on I ten and just uh just uh just
west of Uh.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
What's that one? What's what's give me it in west?
It in west and give me one of those that crosses.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
At the Beltway or so n Yeah, ninety nine down
I ten to ninety. I got a hey, there's a
there's a tick and got a lot of rubberneckers. Brian Sky, Mike,
that's guy, Mike.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
I ten.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Here you go, hit the talk, hit the talk back
on the iHeart Radio app. All right, let's hear from
Astros general manager Dana Brown. He spoke about the potential
trade of Kyle Tucker and fromber Valdez.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Next, the Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Talking about Kyle Tucker and take a quick call before
we hear that audio from Dana Brown. Seven one three
you went to five seven hoey, Mike, We appreciate you holding.
Good morning.

Speaker 14 (25:04):
How are y'all?

Speaker 12 (25:05):
Man?

Speaker 14 (25:06):
I think y'all really, I think you're really underestimating the
amount of money Tucker is gonna get a guy who's
better than him, but not a lot better than him.
Just got seven US sixty five million with his age.
I think he's gonna have a foe handle on his contract. Astros,
as we know, won't be won't be there for that.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
So Mike, let me ask you a question. Let me
ask you a question. Think about this, Todd Tatis, who
is a better who? I can make the argument he
he's had a better I mean, his career has been
pretty good. He's making what three hundred and some million,
and and and Sodo's making about four hundred and fifty
million more than him, four hundred million more, Yeah, seven

(25:46):
sixty five, eight hundred million whatever. I don't think we're
at three hundred, three hundred and thirty if he plays
great and is healthy all year next year, Kyle Tucker's
not making four hundred million.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
There's no freaking way, no way.

Speaker 14 (25:58):
I think he's an MVP. He's an MVT level talent
as we know.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yep.

Speaker 14 (26:02):
These contracts aren't getting smaller. He's his age. They're going
to give him thirteen years four hundred million something stupid
like that.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
He's twenty seven, So thirteen years I'm making forty Now,
I believe that's somebody not here.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
Somebody go ten million for I mean ten years for
three fifty. I don't think we're greatly underestimated. He set
over who.

Speaker 14 (26:25):
They get thirteen years, three fifty. I mean they couldn't
pass the physical But.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
What was the Giants? Oh yeah, oh the Giants. Yeah,
that's the Twins back. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
But my point is is that, yeah, I so we're
greatly underestimating go From three thirty to three seventy five
is not a great underestimation, is I think we all?
You and I and Brian all agree that I've said
I think he's a five tool player and all around
the best player on the team. Got it, But he
also has to perform in the postseason two.

Speaker 14 (26:56):
Yeah, I also don't think i'll too. They signed up
for another rebuild on the back ends of his contract,
so he may want out at some point if you
just got this thing, especially if Louis Bregman. He seems
to be a big advocate of Bregman. And I don't
know why we didn't go get Willie Damas because he
signed for about the same money Bregman did.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
He just got another year, right, Well, that's what we said,
and that's why Bregman is going to get his two
hundred million. The reason why he didn't do it is
because they're still interested in Bregman and had you assigned
a damis that would have been an open door for.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Bregman to leave. That's the problem, Mike, don't you don't
you agree like kind of like me and Sean that
the odds of the Astros bringing Kyle tuckerback are slimmed
and none after next year, after next year, next year.

Speaker 14 (27:38):
Yeah, And I don't know when the optimal time to
trade him is. If it's an hour to trade deadline,
I don't know. And it depends what kind of prospects
we're going to get back if the windows closed. So
I mean, we're getting high, high level talent, but it's
not ready. Well, the window is going to close.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Point Mike, we appreciate the call. Let's let's hear that
audio from Astros general manager Dana Brown. He spoke about
the uh, the off season couple of moves and the
potential of teams calling for Kyle Tucker or from ber Valdez.
This is Astro general manager Gina Brown.

Speaker 15 (28:17):
Yeah, a combination of you know, all of the above.
I had mentioned in the past that you know, we
would we won't take anything off the table in terms
of improving this club. And if we get the opportunity to,
you know, trade if if we feel like this is
a good fit, we'll make that trade. You know, whatever
the opportunity is, well, we'll definitely do it if if it.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Means improving the club.

Speaker 12 (28:41):
Are you willing to listen on Kyle Tucker and from
Pravel does?

Speaker 16 (28:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (28:43):
I mean I think everybody you you would listen on
all the players. I don't think that you know, you
would you know, turn the death death heir to any
of these guys. I think the big thing is if
you have an opportunity to make the club better, that
you would you would at least listen to other clubs
and see if there's something that makes sense for the
club in the present and also long term.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
As Astro's general manager Dana Brown, interesting, man, if even
if you excuse me, have zero plans of trading Kyle
Tucker fromber Valdez, why even mention that. Why not just
say yeah, we you know, we've had some calls, but
we have no plans on trading Kyle Tucker or trading

(29:28):
fromer Valdez. Because now you got all this buzz I
saw John Morosi. Uh, he's at the winter meetings. He
tweeted out that Kyle Tucker's quote unquote availability via trade
has taken but has taken over the buzz here at
the Winter Meetings. Sonay, you got everybody talking about that.
You got everybody talking about fromber Valdez. Of course, Bregman
and Boris are hot topics at the Winter Meetings. It's like, damn, dude, Dana, like,

(29:52):
we get the we we love the transparency, especially when
he comes and joins the show. But man, well here's
you're trying it back a little bit.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
Oh here's but I think and he's extremely If you
want to know if he was transparent, he was.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Here's what I think.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
I think they've already had calls on Kyle Tucker and
that's why he was able to say that. I don't
think it was Oh yeah, I think that there's probably
moving people just inquiring about Kyle Tucker. Why because they're
thinking the same way we are. If he has a
good year, like Mike was talking about, let's say he
let's say he had one of somebody does go thirteen
years for four hundred million. That seems a little off

(30:27):
to me. Yeah, same with me at a little high.
But I know where Mike's going, and Mike's right in
that the Okay, let's see, let's say he wins the MVP.
Let's say he wins the MVP three hundred and fifty
million for ten years, somewhere in that range that bear
let's just say thirty five million a year. Okay, regardless,
thirty third three fifty to four hundred point is is
that once it gets the three hundred threshold and more

(30:49):
than seven years.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
He ain't as right. So whether it's are you going
to get maximum at least if you if you trade
him at the deadline, what if you're kicking ass and
he's playing like the MVP, you can't trade it, and
then you lose the prospects. If he's playing poorly, it
diminishes his value.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
If he's playing average, well then he ain't gonna get
four hundred million when he's a free agent, but you're
gonna get some good prospects in. But right now, the
intrigue with Kyle tuckers through the roof still even though
he missed games, because he's got everything you love.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
And he can run. He I mean, you protect him
in the lineup and he has posted. Dude, he's he's
got a chance to be an MVP. He's that type
of player.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
But if you really are gonna go and you're gonna say,
we got to maximize our roster, maximize the team. And
I hate to say it because I don't like losing
court players every frigging year. I think the reason Dana
said it is because I think Dana deep down believes,
just like he told us, er Diaz is the catcher
of the future before your Diaz was even playing. Yep,
guess what, Er Diaz two weeks later became the catcher

(31:50):
of the present and the future. I think that there's
probably been in quiet. As matter of fact, I bet
you on guys under contract that still have time to go.
I'll bet you Kyle Tucker's one of the most inquired
players about players in the league.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, knowing the history.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
If this was the Dodgers and Kyle Tucker was on it,
or it was the Yankees or Philly, they would not
be inquiring about Kyle Tucker. Why this early, because they'd
know that those guys are in the business to pay him.
And Jim Cranes had great business, but he's done it
his way rightfully, so his businesses are successful. Everything he
does and it's worked for baseball at some point in time,

(32:27):
you ain't give it hometown discounts. And the reason why
Jose al Tuve, well, he didn't come here to rebuild,
doesn't Matt, Jose al tuv will never swing a bat
for another franchise is in major league basement? Well this
is it where whether he's on a seventy win team
or a one hundred and five win team. But Mike,
I get what Mike saying. He doesn't want to do it.
You have, but no veteran on any team wants to
go through that. They want another ring. But right now,

(32:49):
it's to get to hose al Tuova to three thousand
and keep winning. I'm just telling you, Kyle Tucker, if
you are sincere that you can't pay him, you have
to trade him. You absolutely have to and hopefully find
a right fielder that's a budting star and that you
can do it, because.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
In truth, how many that's right now?

Speaker 5 (33:07):
The two players that could have Bregman could have helped replenish,
but kept him, And I get it, Kyle Tucker can
help replenish. You can't tell me you can't get three
to four really good if you got three really good
prospects for Kakuchi who is struggling and was having his
worst time in Toronto. You're telling me a guy like this,
who is an MVP candidate, you can't get three top

(33:27):
fight three to five top flight players. Hell, we got
Zach Greenky for five prospects, and Zach Greenky was starting
to wind down at the back end of his cy
young career to me, and he's been like I said,
it goes back other than last year, the durabilities through
the roof. So you got to really, if you're doing
what's best the franchise and taking emotion out of it,

(33:49):
if you're not gonna pay Kyle Tucker would Hell, he's
at two fifty today to today, he's wore two fifty.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
So if you're not going to do it, and even
though you want to win championship, ahead and go what's
more one maybe one more and then trade him or
then then he leaves for free Andie or played pretty
good without him.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Lash.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
I'm not say you're better with that him not, but
they played. They they stepped their game up. To me,
you got you uh and I hate saying it. You
have to you have to consider it. Yeah, you just
have to. You can go into somebody's minor league system
and get their top three, top top process for him,
and you'll get a top three or four prospect or
maybe even there, you may be able to steal one

(34:31):
of the first or second prospects, top two prospects, one
of the two in somebody's organization that's that's overloaded with
good commun You.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Could probably get a couple of top prospects and a
good player. That's right. They could play right field, yes,
no doubt about it. So they got to look at it.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
I hate it, But you know what, at some point
in time this we're gonna have to have this conversation. Yeah,
why not?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Now, you're not gonna Let's be real, the Ashers are
not gonna pay for.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
One thing of all this that we do know. We
don't know about injuries or m vps or four hundred
one thing we do know you will not be able
to or you won't want to pay Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
You're not Just wait. It is the way it is.
Let's continue this discussion about Kyle Tucker from er Valdez.
What about Ryan Presley? He could be on the trade
block as well. Let's talk talk about it next on
Sports Talk seven ninety. Why you're back. This is the
Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 13 (35:18):
Get back at it.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Seven one, three, two two five seven ninety is the
number to join. Talking about Kyle Tucker potentially being traded
from er Valdez, Ryan Press's come back out to the
phone lines. Talk to Robert Robert, good morning, Hey.

Speaker 12 (35:33):
Good morning, gentlemen.

Speaker 17 (35:35):
So my point with this whole heading now Tucker and
from her into the mix with the trade talks. UH
As a lifelong Cowboys fan, I'm not gonna talk about
the debacle last night or this season. But for those
of us that are old enough to remember the Herschel
Walker trade, right, Sean, I know you remember this.

Speaker 6 (35:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I was in Minnesota, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 17 (36:00):
Had nobody on their team that they could rely on.
And they make the trade and it was time to
rebuild the Astros.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
We all know Krane is not gonna pay these guys.

Speaker 17 (36:11):
I I'm all for. I mean, I love these Ashros
I loved in my whole life. It's time to it's
time to rebuild and just and and cut him loose.

Speaker 12 (36:23):
I mean, get the most bang for your buck.

Speaker 17 (36:25):
You're gonna let him go, so you know you gotta
get something in return, you know, this whole milking of
of Bregman and Boris and trying to get another fifty
million dollars or whatever it is so he can get
two hundred million. I mean, I love Bregman, I love
him to death, but the last handful of years, you know,
at least what I've seen personally, I mean, he's great defensively,

(36:47):
but he's not the guy he was years ago. Right,
He's not the guy's constantly getting the big hits, bringing
in the big runs. He I mean, so what are
we gonna pay him for to pop up? I mean,
I'm just I'm like, let's go, let's move on. Let's
we had a great runt's let's rebuild the squad and
and hopefully it doesn't take you know, five six years

(37:09):
to get back to where we are now. But I mean,
this is I just see the true between you know,
like I said, cow has a Cowboys fan. This is
where we are at the fork in the road. And
appreciate you guys. Let me get a call in and
happy holidays fellas.

Speaker 12 (37:23):
Robert.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
You are one correct. I think the Cowboys got to
end up getting what eleven players, Yes, crazy and Herschel
was a great teammate and a phenomenal human being. But
Jimmy Johnson made the trade of a light. He got
out of his emotion because Herschel is an easy guy
to love. He really was and is great guy. But
I had a great teammate. But I can tell you

(37:44):
this that single handedly turned the cowboys fortunes into something
special and it was the right move for the Cowboys. Now,
I will tell you this, if all of a sudden,
the text that the Houston Astros step into this thing
and they say they pay Bregman two hundred million for

(38:06):
six years, let's just say they do paying two hundred
and five million for two hundred and ten million for
six years, you can't trade Kyle Tucker. I'm gonna tell
you why, because that may tell you there. It's a
changing of the guard, meaning when I say to guard,
not the people in charge, but a changing of the
attitude that they are going to go all in. And
then you start to say, maybe they'd be willing to

(38:27):
pay Kyle Tucker, but if they're not getting if they
their biggest offer gets to a buck seventy five and
Kyle Tucker plays like an all star, not even the
MVP priced out so you're keeping a Bregman's contract will
give you, even though it's more, if they were to
get to that point, it's going to tell you what.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I think we can make a little adjustment here.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
We got the money, and you know what, we're gonna
spend more because we came close. We've been dominant. We
don't want to lose that domination. And it also gives
Kyle Tucker hope that, oh maybe they are in on me.
So yeah, Bregman's contract is going to dictate a lot.
But we know but that we know him in fat, Yeah,
exactly right. Yeah you're swimming none slim and nun Yeah yeah,

(39:14):
fat somewhere.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Is in there, you know.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
With n f even though Kyle Tucker's not fat. But
I it is hard to fathom, folks. But you know what,
It was hard to fathom for the Seahawks, hard to
fathom for the Patriots. It's gonna be hard to fathom
for the Kansas City Chiefs at some point. It's hard
to fathom for the Lakers. It's hard to fathom. I mean,

(39:38):
it just is.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
But guess what crap happens?

Speaker 5 (39:42):
Yeah, you know what until this one not counting twenty twenty,
it was hard to fathom for the Dodgers, even though
he bought a lot of players nineteen eighty eight. The
Cowboys are still going through the hard to fathom part
of it. Yeah, it's going to be hard to fathom
when this team does not make the playoffs. And at
some point in time it's going to happen, right, not
because we wanted to, just because that's the course of life,
man and building teams. It's gonna happen. Yeah, we just

(40:05):
hope it's later than sooner right now. But Kyle Tucker,
I think that the trade talker what you're gonna get for.
I think you have to listen. I think it's real. Yeah,
I don't think it's fake. Yeah, I think it's real
as well.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
I think when, uh, when it's all said and done,
when these winter meetings conclude, I think Alex Bregman is
gonna be with a new team, and I think there's
gonna be more smoke to the Kyle Tucker being traded fire.
That's what I think at the end of this week.
Do you like the word smoke?

Speaker 13 (40:31):
Smoke?

Speaker 2 (40:32):
If you got him dogs smoke with you got smoking?

Speaker 5 (40:34):
He's a nuts Okay, Yeah, Gripley wants the pal He's like, yeah, yeah,
good down. Probably pretty racist by Brian though TRIPLEI felt racist.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Anything, it felt racist.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
That's why you didn't address Whitey the way you're supposed to,
just with respect.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
How do you want me to address just as like
you kind of.

Speaker 5 (40:56):
Look the other way, rolled your eyes at me, then
rolled your eyes at Tripley. It was you know, you
you disrespected Whitey and an African American in the same Yeah,
he went triple saw it. He just cut you some
slack on the radio.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
It's cool though he actually cannot see me. You can't
get you.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
Yeah, like John Cena, Tripley, you know, I would never
lead you astray. He rolled his eyes and then when
you said something, he flipped you the bird. But that's cool.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
That's coolie man. Whoa that looks like weird? What is
this the purge on TV? Is that I think it's
a throwback? Or yeah, I think it's a previous. Yeah, yeah,
a previous? What like a previous like a show that
they did, like no, this is this is this morning?
Because that that that uh host right there, the woman
she's wearing that green today it's the twenty fourth though

(41:40):
at the top, Oh my goodness, is that her Manwards
dressed as a Carolina the Panther? Yes, with the shoes onto. Yeah, no,
that's that's actually today. Yeah, this is live for a minute.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
You know how they did the purgee they put those
masks on, so that kind of would have looked like,
I'm like, what is this a sad find movie at Halloween?

Speaker 2 (42:01):
This is live right now? Yeah, it is sweet man.
Maybe we got to bring in masks, all right, mask up? Yeah,
mascow dog, mask up. Let's get in the seven o'clock hour.
There's a lot of teams that are jumping into the
Alex Bregman Frey. There's two of them that are leading
the way and they are not the Houston Astros. Who
are they? We'll discuss the next on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Speaker 13 (42:45):
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Speaker 5 (42:58):
I can compartmentalize my like for him in his football
the thanks of the football acumen.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
At times, I am going to rip into him. I'm
so tired of him of undermining the head coach and stuff.
You're quit be in the face of the franchise, so
you decide at what time we want to do this.
If I could, if maybe at the stakeout I was,
I'm so tired of him going right outside the locker
room and holding the press conference. We're tired of just

(43:22):
shut the be quiet, Jerry.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
Quit undermining your team and your coach post press conference
because you've got a billion.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Dollars he in the camera, sit this bitch out. Yeah, okay,
and until you.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
Go get them players, I don't want to hear a
damn thing, Okay, so we'll get to that. I want
you to hear a couple of numbers, Johnny, thanks for
sending this to me. We didn't talk about it yesterday.
We talked about Sodo ad nauseum. He's making fifty one
million a season on average.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Right now.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
He makes eight and a half million a month, three
hundred and fourteen thousand bucks a game, one hundred and
thirty three eight thousand dollars an hour, thirty four thousand
dollars an inning, twenty eighteen dollars a minute, and there's
some ends on the other ones like one thirty three,
three ninety six, but you get the point. And then, uh,
the Astros bought this franchise. The pursis price was for

(44:16):
six hundred and eighty million on Uh, Juan Soto make
seven hundred and sixty five million. How's that for perspective?
You're a billionaire owner. When you sell this, it's going
to be for over a billion dollars if you ever
do think about that. So that's the long term generation wealth.

(44:38):
But Sodo's contract is more now than the purchase price
from when it was bought.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Craziness right, that is insane, seven hundred and sixty five
million dollars compared to what's six what eighty six eighty
six eighty thanks to our guiding believable man, good god,
three hundred and fourteen dollars a game. So let's see,
the Astros are worth currently two point four billion. Well

(45:06):
there you go. Bought it for six how's that for ROI? Wow?
And this keeps going, it'll be worth three billion another
year and a half. Well you're worth not you, meaning
the Jim Crane, but the Astros themselves are worth two
point four billion, yet they've never given a contract higher
than a buck sixty five. Think about that. You're not

(45:31):
going to be able to retain Alex Bregman. You're not
going to be able to retain Kyle Tucker, two of
your core players. I really don't think Alex Bregman's coming back.
I've always leaned towards he's not coming back. I firmly
believe that he's going to go to the Red Sox.
I think the Red Sox will be able to offer
him more than six years, and they're gonna be able

(45:52):
to offer him probably more than two hundred million bucks.
I think it's the years that he wants. I think
he wants two hundred million dollars. He's got a connection
with Alex Korra. They've already said that Rafael Devers could
move to first base, and Alex Bregman is open to
playing second base. So you got some versatility there to
move those two guys around. If Bregman goes to Boston,

(46:13):
Yankees apparently are now throwing their name in the hat
to try to sign him since they missed out on
Juan Soto. I don't think he would go there. The
Detroit Tigers reportedly have offered Bregman a four or five
year contracts something like that. I heard yesterday. The Mariners
might be trying to go get him. The Blue Jays
are involved, the Mets are involved. All those teams are

(46:34):
gonna offer him more than what the Astros are. And
another thing that irks me is Chandler Rome beat Ryder,
covering the Astros for the Athletics, said he tweeted out
yesterday that let me find the direct quote. All right,
here we go. Dana Brown reiterated the Astros are quote
unquote optimistic about retaining Alex Bregman. Brown said the last

(46:57):
time he spoke to Scott Boris was two days ago.
Why are you only talking to him every couple of days?
If that's mean, I'm truly truly trying to re sign
Alex Bregman. I'm checking in with that dude every day.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
But they chest piece it. Dude, you know how it is.
I mean, I get it, but both sides do. If
somebody won't answer the call, I'm not saying, you know
how it is. Oh, they texted me or call me, I'll.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Get back to hi. Yeah, and make them check every
day oh, sure, and let it.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
You know, I'm gonna let this thing simmer a little
bit and go, but you should probably be I think
by the end of the week there's a contract then somewhere. Yeah,
that's just my Maybe I'm crazy, but it feels like
it should be. Yeah, all right, why would you Okay,
there you're told you can only keep one Kyle Tucker

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for three point thirty, Alex Bregman for two.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Hundred Alex Bregman.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
I feel like I feel like I'm I feel like
I'm on on uh Alex Bregman for two hundred Jeopardy, Jeopardy,
Who do you want? Alex Bregman performs in the playoffs?
So you so you're taking on a long term deal,
let's say seven years to six six or seven years
of both. Yes, that's changed because in summertime you would
have never done to say Kyle Tucker. Kyle Tucker doesn't

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perform in the playoffs. How many times he been in
him now as a starter? Three enough, three times enough times,
four times, three, four times? So you think that's a
trend enough to say that's who he is. Yeah, in
the playoffs, if that's who he is, can't pay four
hundred million right now.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
I don't think he's going to get four in a million.
I think he'll get like three. He'll get over three hundred,
him over three hundred.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
So if they said for the next six, six to
eight years, you get to choose one, you're taking Bregman
over Tucker.

Speaker 10 (48:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
I think Kyle Tucker is the best overall, play over uh.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
Rid yourself of the clubhouse, the the the the supposed
clubhouse leadership that he has. Okay, because it appears to
me one talk I mean one is far more I
would imagine, far more talkative in the clubhouse than the other.
Right Yeah, I say talkative, that comfortable, not introverted. I

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feel like Kyle Tucker's an introvert. But I'm not in
the clubhouse. I don't know, And he may be far more.
I mean, he's only going maybe one of those guys
that's sneaky that you can get around him. And he's
in his in his circle in the clubhouse that he's
talksil you know that he's chopping it up all the time. Yeah,
So you would say I told you that right now,
I said, and you can't. This is a I put
it to you today. The decision's got to be made.

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Kyle Tucker, Alex Bregman, same amount of years, one making
uh a seven million more than the other. And we
know who that would be? Yeah, seven eights Kyle Tucker.
So you're taking Bregman of a you think your chance
is over the next five or six years to win
a World Series? Or with Kyle Tucker not Alex? I
mean with Alex Bregman, not Kyle Tucker. If you had

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to choose one of the other.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah, Kyle Tucker hits two twenty nine in the playoffs
in his career, one, two, three, four, five six times
in the postseason. Who gives you a better chance to
get there? I think Kyle wall I mean, let's we
know Pregmant's a notorious low starter, right, he usually catches
fire second half of the season. Al Tucker mainly stays

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pretty consistent, but there are times where he goes through
lls like every big he's a peaking valley guy. Times
he's gonna get your thirty bags.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
So are you okay with saying for two months we're
just gonna LOLLI gag? I mean, are you okay with that?
Because he makes up for it is the two months, okay?
Will it two months be okay in Boston?

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Uh? For if he goes there, yeah, Joell, probably not.
I think anywhere else they'll be.

Speaker 5 (50:34):
A little more impatient up front because because the history
with them, as he do, you just know Bregman's gonna
come out of the reason. I'm asking these questions not
because I think different, but I think that they're worthy
of asking, right. So I think at the end of that,
you had to make a decision. You take Bregman over
Tucker same amount of years.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
I think it's it's tough, of course it is, I
think overall.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
And you do have to take into clubhouse leadershi, because
it's part of baseball.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
I think I would. I would, I would take Alex Bregman.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
As the GM. You're making the sole decision. Are you
comfortable you're.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Not gonna be to you? Yeah? Yeah, because I think
Bregman does. There's more intangibles that we don't know about,
Like look what he did with the pitching staff this
past year.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
And that is fair. I think Kyle Tucker is a
better player. I think I think Bregman's got a better
overall feel of Bregman's got an overall feel of he's
gonna continue to play with confidence regardless of what happens.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah, Buss, he does more as far as like, like
I just said, the intangibles helps, the pitching staff helps,
calls pitches at times. I'm not saying that Kyle Tucker can't.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
There's a legitimate shot that neither one of them are
here after twenty twenty five, and.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Then neither of them are going to be here. I
firmly believe that both are gone. I don't think Bregman's
coming back this year, and I think Kyle Tucker has
gone after this past year unless they trade him. They're
not gonna be able to afford either of them. You're
not gonna You're not.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
Gonna get true. They can afford it, they can't, but
they're not going to pay it. They're gonna pay it.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
They can't afford it, but they're not going to The
business model has been set and they've stayed true to
it and it's been successful. So why change it. It
ain't broke, don't fix it.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
And I'll tell you what if they were to get ready,
if Bregman were to walk and go somewhere else and
they win and they get to the World series without him,
Nle Tucker has no shot, no shot none because the
business model will say yeah in spite of not because
of right right, real quick.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
I want to read this because I know our stakeout
may go into some football. This was another piece that
Chandler Rome tweeted out. Asked on Monday, whether he believed
Houston could still win the American League West without one
of Valdez or Tucker, Brown replied, quote, yes, I think
we could.

Speaker 13 (52:46):
End quote quote.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I think the team is good enough to It depends
on what you get back in return if you decide
to go that way. But we will not make any
trades that don't make sense in terms of winning the division,
getting back to the postseason and all that. We're not
trying to break the team down. The trade would have
half would have to make sense in that we're not
weakening our club. End quote. Dana Brown talking about the

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potential of trading Kyle Tucker or fromber Valide.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
So why would you? Why would you? I mean, if
if you're not serious about it, why would you even put.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
That out there?

Speaker 5 (53:17):
That's what I'm saying because every other executive and they're
all waking up this morning and they're going to go
down and have breakfast, and they're gonna sit around and
have their winter meetings. You're telling me that they don't
read it, and walk up to Dana, who's got a
great personality and it is very transparent, put their arm
around him, say dude.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Let's talk. So I'm talking. That's what I'm saying. What
let's talk. You're putting that out there for a reason.

Speaker 5 (53:36):
What what if all of a sudden the Atlanta Braves
said he's rehaving but he's gonna be a great player
and Dana's got familiarity. Would you trade Ronald Acunya for
Kyle Tucker?

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Straight up? Would you do it? Yeah? Well yeah, hell yeah,
get me wrong with all the yes twice blowing what
yeah out his knee twice now in the last three years. Yes,
I would in a Harvey that dude is different.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
I mean, the only reason I was thinking about it
just because, right, So, what I'm saying, has he got
the months?

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Did he get his monster contract? Yet he did? Right?

Speaker 5 (54:12):
I can't remember how much it was without injuries that
guy would have been. Remember we were talking about the
next four hundred million dollar guy. No injuries, not with
standing Soto, he's he he may have been that guy.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Right, don't you know he hasn't signed yet. Well there
you go, Okay, yeah, he hasn't signed as yet. No injuries,
that's your next four hundred million dollar player. Yeah, I'm
talking about a Cunya if he now, even with injuries,
because I'm just going to tell you that's right, they
got him. Remember remember when they were on a roll
of signing their core players to cheaper contract and.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
He had not and and Freddy left and right that
that's exactly right. Yeah, so I'll tell you this, though
knees are different than some other things. It was his
knee this last year too, right, twice a c L
I think.

Speaker 7 (54:57):
Right.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
So I can tell you this though, now with the
way modern medicine is and rehab, if you'd told me
Torres Achilles twice, I'd be more concerned about Ronald Acune
than his knee. He'll come back from it. He's a
young stud and naked. Those guys heal quick, right, Yes,
I don't think Atlanta. But the reason why you wouldn't
do it if you're the Astros because you don't have

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to pay Acuna more with his contract.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Gave up then you're gonna pay Kyle Tucker because hed
Acuna had no injuries. That's four hundred million staring you.
Maybe more.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
He'd be the closest thing to Sodo with age and
everything and explosive talent, and he's more. He got far
more tool. I hate to say this, I don't hate
to say it. He's a five tool player. Yes, SODA's
like a two and a half three tool guy because
he's a he's a little bit of a liability in
right field.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
He's a left fielder playing right front who can hit,
so he covers up that with he'd be making an
air or not, don't have a hose for an arm,
and then hit an upper tank home run to make
up for it. That's just the way it is.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
Acun is far more explosive when it comes to five tools,
and so is Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Right but just interesting?

Speaker 4 (56:03):
Right?

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Would it let it be willing to part with it? Y? Well, no,
but I would. I'll tell you yes, there's no doubts there.
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Speaker 13 (56:52):
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Speaker 11 (57:00):
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Speaker 4 (57:01):
Back to Sean Salisbury and Brian Lulima on Sports Talk
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Speaker 13 (57:12):
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Speaker 13 (57:20):
The Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
All right, It's time for the stakeout. Here on Sports
Talk seven ninety, Sean Salisbury Brian Limammanuel Elmore. The Dallas
Cowboys lost to the Bengals last night in Monday Night Football,
and of course right after the loss, Jerry Jones stood
in front of the locker room. All the cameras followed. Uh,

(57:42):
there was a situation late in that game. The Bengals
were set upon. I believe there was like a minute
left in the game. Cowboys went all out blocked the punt. However,
a player on special teams for the Cowboys, the football
did not secure the football. Bengals get it back, they

(58:04):
go down and score win the game twenty seven to twenty. Well,
Jerry Jones was not happy about the punt block. This
is what the owner had to say.

Speaker 19 (58:15):
And there's a.

Speaker 8 (58:17):
Really devastated the turn of events on the block gig. Obviously,
we had a block kick call and made to play,
and they had one and so many odds turn against us,
and we all would say, we'll want block the kicker,

(58:38):
just take the kick and get the field goal and
kicking we'll all be second guessing that. And I was
proud of the way the guys hung in there all day.
The quarterbacks outstanding, and I thought we did some really
good things out there patched up, so we'll know about
overshowing the Bam.

Speaker 20 (58:53):
What do you say to a kid like Laurier who's
just been activated most of the pump with.

Speaker 21 (58:57):
Two minutes to go.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
I know he's got to be having a tough Yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 8 (59:02):
I don't know that we are to say anything to it.
You just we made the mistakes out there. That mistake
we made at the end, it was really, uh was
very impact.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
It's all I could try. All right, that's Jerry Jones.
Sean have at it, man, because I don't want.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
To know something, man, I honestly just want to know.
Locking a punt's a hard thing to do. Unfortunately there's
a penalty and or not a penalty.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
But yeah, no, no, gave the ball back right after
player and once he secured it and then they got
the ball back. Yeah, and they went down and scored.
And you give him, you know, Burrow too many chances.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
My point is is, why in the world does Jerry
Jones feel the need to undermine everything that goes on
right after a game. He doesn't let it simmer, he
doesn't let it the emotion hit because if a player
did what Jerry did like that he'd be pissed.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Or the head coach.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
And it's just under if you don't want if you're
gonna undermine the head coach all time, then you just
fire his ass. But you know why Jerry doesn't want
to do it when he said he may give him
extension because he can undermine him and that coach won't
go in and punch him upside his frigginhead. I love
Jerry Jones, the marketer, and Jerry's a good man at
least he's always been good to me. I'm judging by
the football stuff. No owner, as I've said it before,

(01:00:21):
should ever have his ass as the as the face
of the franchise. Why is he the spokesperson in the
hallway after every game?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Let your quarterback, let your head coach.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Why do you if you got a problem with the
way things are going, call him in during the week
and talk behind closed doors. I just don't, Well, he
reserves the right. He's the owner. Yeah, and guess what
that owner had and sniffed a ring. You've won more
chips with your your baseball guys, and those guys have
sniffed since the mid nineties. And Jerry is the problem.
He is he's listen, a lot of money. Jerry's turned

(01:00:55):
that franchise into the most what it's got to be
the most profitable franchise going in team sports right now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
It's not soccer, it is.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
Okay, So with that in mind, you know how, you
know how it even becomes more profitable.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Win all the time.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
It's that profitable and all, and they win during the
regular team they don't wan championships. But how often can
you operate by every single you know what It's like? Jerry,
like in the middle of the third quarter is already thinking,
I can't wait to go down there and start talking
everybody come to me and see how many mics are
in front of his face. He just contint if Jerry,
if you want to know how important Jerry is in

(01:01:30):
a postgame press conference, all he's got dudes ask him.
He has to immerse himself into this all the time.
And why you would question because now all week long
you know we're gonna do Why is Jerry questioning a
blocked punt? Of course you want to block punt. It
changes in Flip's field position. Unfortunately it worked out the
wrong way, so you shouldn't have gone for punt block

(01:01:50):
you should have gone punt return and been backed all
the way. Who's to say on the first carry the
ball is not laid on the ground. You give Hi
Burrow even a shorter field.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Just stop it. I I just don't.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
I try to cut him slack, say, yeah, he signs
the paychecks, but you know what, how about doing this?

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Just sign the paychecks?

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
And how dare you undermine the guys that you've did,
the guys that you hired and paid, and then turn
around and come the off season you don't give them
diddly squat to work with as the GM. As I
said before, Jerry Jones would have fired Jerry Jones twenty
five times since the mid nineties as the GM. I

(01:02:27):
want him as my owner all the time. If he
just put a muzzle on it and talk when necessary.
When's the last stock I've said it before? Did you did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
The Rooney family talking in Pittsburgh?

Speaker 11 (01:02:38):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
Now go to the franchises in pro sports where the
owner talks all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
How good are they? Let's see, Woody Johnson doesn't talk
a lot, but he does a lot of dumb ass stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
He's out in public talking about Aaron Rodgers. How about
the Giants ownership. Lamar's are an old school fan. I
mean they are. You do know that the girl and
Shooter that's that's her family. Oh really, the the wife
of the military guy guy and then Marko Walbert that's
Amara really? Oh yeah, that's she's part of that family.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
You don't hear the hunt Ravens guy's not talking. No, Bashadi,
I I just to me undermining. You can put all
the great plays, you continue to undermine the coach.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Okay, so let me ask you this.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
When you put pump block on and and Mike approves it,
McCarthy approves it, what do you like macarthy?

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Now, this isn't about McCarthy right now, it's about Jerry.
If Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
Approves it to the special teams coach, right yeah, and
a special teams coach goes out and puts on punt block.
They blocked the punt, which is hard to do and
the it is sorry, otherwise we'd be doing it every
week and you undermine it, go on, talk about it.
What are the players in the locker room now think?

Speaker 11 (01:03:50):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
I mean you're you're questioning your head coach completely loses
any power trust, right, No, trust in your head coach.

Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
Yeah we should have done pump. Yeah you should have
punt block if that wouldn't happened. Guys trying to make
a you know, make a big play and get it
down there, and unfortunately they get a little too exuberant
and don't just secure it and get that whatever. Everybody
wants to score and scoop and score all those things.
I just don't get. And if this was on a
podcast and I could let it'd be a lot worse.

(01:04:18):
Trust me, I am just so tired because when you
continue to do this, you are the problem. See, Jerry
is not a problem solver, you know, Jerry is problem
and he adds He's typical media these days, national media.
Instead of reporting what's going on behind and keeping it
in there unless how we solve this, Jerry adds to
it and then tries to blame it on Well, we're

(01:04:40):
gonna get this solved. Yet he's now heightened more problems
in the building.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
You're losing. You're not very good. It doesn't.

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
It serves no purpose other than to undermine the head coach.
Whether you like it, then if you're gonna undermine and
fire him, yeah, but he won't because guess.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
What it does. It gives you a blame.

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
Gives you the chance because he ain't undermined Bill Belichick
because that'll be a fistfight waiting to happen. So I
just don't get why you continue to do this, because
problem solvers take the problem handled behind closed doors, deploy
people the way they're supposed to, and you deal with it.
Problem causers are people who created as opposed to fix it.
And Jerry every week he does this just adds to

(01:05:18):
the problem because we wake up now on a Tuesday
and guess who wants to be the center of attention
Jerry Jones. Yeah, instead of what a great play on
a punt block, what a great call? It didn't turn
out that way. I'd do it a thousand times over.
Then you tell people basically that Mike McCarthy's doing doing
the right thing by approving that with a special teams coach.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
It's sick.

Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
And if you're a Cowboys fan, you've got to be
throwing up in your mouth every time. And their team's
not very good. And part of the problem is why
their team's not very good, because that dude got you
nothing in the off season. Ezekiel Elliott as your go
to the hell out of here. You know what, put
a muzzle on you know that dog that goes in
and has it, and you prevent him from from barking

(01:05:56):
all the time. You put that big old club. Yeah,
stick that cone on him, Jerry, for the rest of
the season, just be quiet. Yeah, market, make money, make billions,
love you to death. But when it comes to personnel
and undermining the coach in the offseason, he deserves to be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Kicked right in the balls. Yeah, I agree, man, he
does not shut up. Stop talking. Seven three seven, hiney.
We'll get back out to your phone calls as we
roll along right here on seven ninety.

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Speaker 13 (01:06:52):
The Sean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 5 (01:06:56):
Is you know I'm a Beatles guy, right? I love that,
But I'm led Zeppelin first, but Eagles. But I'm a
Beatles guy again.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Yeah, well, overrated dude, Beatles, overrated band of all times,
the Beatles and most iconic album covering. No it's not, No,
it's not. Nirvana has a more iconic one than them.
You know what, get on these nuts?

Speaker 5 (01:07:15):
Okay, Beatles, Okay, well we can agree to this. I
like the Beatles regardless, but I do got to say this.
And while he's one of the great you know, guitar
men on the planet and a great run with the
Beatles solo Paul McCartney and the Wings as well, when

(01:07:36):
he had to win overrated blows, I wouldn't go watch it.
I wouldn't go watch it. I'd rather go watch now.
Hear me when I say this, Now, Barry man Low,
I'm talking about man Low.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
What's my guy?

Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
Sings a seventh inning Neil Diamond. I'm I'm using these
guys as the cheese mole factor. But then you know
they in the quaint setting and you know where. It's
just they're sitting on a James Taylor more than I
would Paul McCartney solo. Now, McCartney know what the great
guitar player he really is. He's been phenomenal, right, but
solo Paul McCartney did nothing for me. And the Wings

(01:08:13):
either overrated, right, but not the Beatles. Beatles are not overrated.
The well, I guess when you have that kind of hype,
you can't. Then that means every great band that's got
that kind of heypes probably been overrated because it's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
To live up to. But the Beatles, I mean, would
you rather watch nine inch nails? Yeah? Yeah? What are
you gonna do with a nine inch nail?

Speaker 12 (01:08:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
I don't know, man, that's a long nail, it is.
I'd rather go watch Chaka Khan.

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
What about rufus Chotra nine You wouldn't know what to
do with nail, right, that's what you're driving through a
lot of wood, Shaka Chaka. I mean, but you wouldn't
know what to do with nine inches anyway, the nails
because you're construct Hey it's cool though, you know what
I said. I mean, hey, if you don't have it.

(01:09:03):
You wouldn't know what to do with them. You know
what I'm saying. I wouldn't even want to he would.
You got to build a home. It's the foundation. But
if them kids do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
It's got the bow lines, Philip, No, man, uh.

Speaker 11 (01:09:19):
Oh are you are you kidding me? Six ninth it's
intro great, that's a group heard.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Have you ever heard of the group?

Speaker 11 (01:09:28):
No, I've heard of them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Okay, well they're just talking. We're just talking music here, don't.

Speaker 11 (01:09:32):
Get that's all right? Yeah, man, that's done. You're done tooting.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Shown right, we're talking music here. Now there you go.

Speaker 11 (01:09:41):
What mister Jerry Jones, he's a billionaire. What does he
have to do during the week? This is football season.
The lights are shining brightest. It's a power trip. It's
an ego trip for him. He knows all the cameras
are going to be there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
We all know this, and Philip, it sucks. I'm tired
of it.

Speaker 11 (01:10:06):
Yeah, but you know, what can you do? He's he's like,
you know, and it's also I think he's kind of
like putting a leg over the other owners that Oh,
look at all the attention I can get, you know,
look at the look at the bandwidth I can, I
can consume, I can generate.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Yeah he can that. There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
But you know how they say, take care of your
own home before you try to take care of everybody else's. Yeah,
he doesn't take care of his own home, meaning his team,
if that makes sense.

Speaker 11 (01:10:40):
Yeah, well, it's the funny thing is he still makes money.

Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
Oh well, if that's the goal, that makes plenty of it. Yeah,
there's no doubt about that.

Speaker 19 (01:10:49):
And look at the teams.

Speaker 11 (01:10:50):
He's put out. I mean, what was the last time
they won a playoff game where they've never won two
in in season since Stawback.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Maybe, uh, no, it happened when Aikman in that group
was there obviously, no.

Speaker 11 (01:11:05):
No, no, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (01:11:07):
Yeah, of course loved Akman.

Speaker 11 (01:11:09):
That was a great Those are great teams. Anyway, Yeah,
that was my spiel for the day.

Speaker 5 (01:11:16):
You're right, and it is a it's a it's a
there's no doubt. It's an ego thing. Jerry likes to
hear himself talk.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
He does. There's no doubt. Yeah, there is no doubt. Adrian,
good morning.

Speaker 10 (01:11:26):
Uh, let's not skip the top here, Brian. You made
me drop my split and water. Okay with that Beatles comment,
Are you kidding me? Overrated?

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
They are overrated? Yeah, that's like telling me I'm standing
on business with it, Adrian, they're overrated.

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
You might want to get off that. You might want
to get off your spot because I don't no business
to stand on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
It sucks and.

Speaker 10 (01:11:51):
Dog, that's like telling me Billy Bob the guitarist is
better than Jimmy Hendry Flea is better than and Flee
himself is better than the Beatles. All right, I'll meet
you at your truck in the parking lot when you're done,
and we'll discuss this.

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
Bring bring a bring a shovel, and don't tell anybody
where you're going.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Man, and a couple splits. We'll make sure we bury
him the right way. Smoke him if you got him.

Speaker 10 (01:12:16):
Dog, Hey, John, I got five acres and we got
a machine out here to dig.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Hold down there.

Speaker 5 (01:12:27):
Hey, my man, I've read enough James Patterson books. I
know how to get away with it with him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Hey, Adrian, here's here's the kicker, though Sean doesn't even
know how to read.

Speaker 13 (01:12:36):
Oh, I'll let y'all take that up off air.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Yeah, listen to this, bitchy Sean.

Speaker 10 (01:12:45):
You want to Hey, Sean, you want to get him back?

Speaker 13 (01:12:49):
Christmas song, White Christmas by the Drifters.

Speaker 12 (01:12:52):
There's a part in there for each one of y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Even Triple got his part in there.

Speaker 10 (01:12:56):
Take that out, Sean, uh base, mister Krank, Do you
not know how much you made during the playoffs and
during the season. It's public information, So we don't want
to hear all this, bro, We just don't.

Speaker 13 (01:13:15):
Do you not remember what it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Was like when jose L Tudi showed up here?

Speaker 10 (01:13:19):
How many empty spots there were, how many seat covers
you had to use here in Texas? No, that's all
I can tell you about that. And Jerry Jones, a boy,
you rewarded me just like them dogs did. So it's Tuesday.

(01:13:43):
It's old ladies day to day because the kid is
often wonder land what we call school.

Speaker 13 (01:13:49):
You fellas know what that means.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Time to go spend some money.

Speaker 10 (01:13:53):
So jingle bells, jingle bells, and if you don't already
know the word of the year.

Speaker 13 (01:14:00):
We all need some peace?

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Is that Adrian appreciate it. Let's get to break Buster only,
Sean only buster Buster only this morning tweeting some stuff
out about Kyle Tucker and the Astros. What did he say?
We'll read it discussed next on Sports Talk seven eighty.

Speaker 13 (01:14:16):
This is the Sean Salisbury show. Salesbury.

Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
That's beautiful, more money whatever, Every single dollar goes to it,
and it's gonna be a that's gonna considering that each
patient's about four hundred and fifty thousand dollars, yep, that's
gonna save a lot of lives.

Speaker 8 (01:14:35):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:14:35):
So thank you guys right here. And that's just just
a couple of days to do it. And another well
wished today is he gets prepared to go and get
surgery today. Tara Guy, Mattre Smack, who obviously was a
part of it Gallery Furniture was part of the Saint
Jude stuff and Mattress Smack, he's tougher than surgery. If
I know Mac, in about two days, he's going to
be chomping at the bit saying, let me out of here.

(01:14:56):
I gotta go to Gallery Furniture and greet all my people.
I walked in there yesterday to see Mac and he
looks great. He's gonna be fine, and he you know
how he is people walking the door. He comes from
behind there, boom, right out there shaking all their hands
doing I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
This is a day before he's about to go have
surgery heart surgery.

Speaker 5 (01:15:12):
Yeah, and you know, valve and get it taken care of.
And we, obviously Mac will keep you updated, as will
everybody involved. But our best wishes and prayers for Mac
to make a quick, full recovery get back to work,
which will not shock me if he's back sooner than
normal for the normal person.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Most of us are mere mortals.

Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
And I went and saw him yesterday and it was
great to see him, and you know, put your arm
around him, and you think he's a lot tougher than
I am. Yeah, yeah, And you know what's crazy when
he is. The least thing we worry about is Mac's
toughness coming out of this. He's stronger than ever, right right,
So there you go. So Mac, we got you, brother.
I hope you're doing okay.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Yep. He's going to go in for open heart surgery
this morning, so we are. Thoughts are definitely with mattress
Mack as he goes in for that surgery. As we
get into the eight o'clock hour bus er only this morning,
Astros owner Jim Crane has not gone beyond sixty years
and his offers to players, and it's it's pretty clear
that if Kyle Tucker stays healthy, he is going to
be offered big money in big years as a free
agent next fall. Houston has a choice similar to Boston's

(01:16:09):
in the offseason after twenty nineteen with Mookie, trade him
for the value this winter or next July, or watch
him walk away. You know the answer that morning he goes,
this is what happened, man, So I got Dana Brown
talks about it yesterday, and now the national media is
gonna run with it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:29):
You want transparency, Yeah, well you got as the best
at given it, and he does. But this doesn't surprise me.
You were faced at the same time with Alex Regman
last year and he's gonna go get more money more
than likely. And listen, I hope this is one of
those times you hope you're wrong. I hope Regman's here,
and I hope that they want to pay Kyle Tucker.
History says no, and that's all you can go with
right in which and somebody would offer it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
So you and Buster only hits it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:52):
You're either gonna let him go and get nothing for
free agent both these guys, or you're gonna pay him
and keep him, or you're gonna trade. You can't trade
Bregman now, but you still get Kyle Tucker out in
front of you, and you got two choice.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
I could sit here and be.

Speaker 5 (01:17:06):
You know, while it happens, and it's like a depressing
middle of December thought process.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
But you know the other side of it is, I can't.
You can't let it beat you down.

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
I gotta. It's hard to say that. You know, maybe
we just wear it as a facade. Yeah, it may
cut deep, but you know what, you're in that position,
you're gonna have to make some hard decisions. And one
hard decision is they're probably not gonna if he hasn't
moved off that price, that's telling you Alex Bregman is
more likely going to go play somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
I think I think this is my opinion. I think
they know that they're not going to be able to
resign Bregman, and now they're fully one hundred percent looking
at options to trade Kyle Tucker. That's why Dana Brown
said that, Yes, sure, that's my opinion.

Speaker 5 (01:17:46):
Well, if you get to restock with some great ones
and can find a guy who can maybe an everyday
player or two. Then maybe you have to it. May
have to have it because if you can't sign Alex Bregman,
you're not signing Kyle Tucker. Nope, because in truth very
well could be a million I mean one hundred million
dollars more.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Yeah, it will be to keep it. It will be
right and about three more years. Even if Brett wherever
wherever Bregman goes. Let's say the Red Sox signed for
two hundred million dollars seven years, two hundred and ten
for seven years. Kyle Tucker is still going to get
more than that. He's going to get a hundred million. Yes,
he's gonna getree hundre million dollar. If you're not paying one,
both are gone. Yeah, I think they're gonna. I said,

(01:18:27):
you keep an eye on the Bregman thing. If they
don't sign Bregman and don't get close to the two
hundred million, it'll tell you what what you're already in
for with uh with Kyle Tucker is Yeah. I mean
it's a bummer, but reality sets in and we you
don't sign the checks. And if that's the business model
and they're going to follow it, they're going to follow
the business model.

Speaker 5 (01:18:46):
I don't if that is what they're going to do.
You have to trade Kyle Tucker correct, Yeah, I mean
you have to correct. Yes, Okay, you're not going to
sign him. You are not going to You can afford it,
but you're not gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
So what do you do? Trade him and get as
much as you can and you can't get a major
hall right and do it? This offen? What did the
Red Sox do because you're not re signing Alex Bregman either, right?
In my opinion, again these are my opinions. I don't
think Bregman's coming back.

Speaker 5 (01:19:14):
They traded bets right, right, They did right because they
got it, they knew we're not going to afford it.
And now they were in the play for the guy
they traded one for, which would have been in the
three hundred millions range. Right to a guy now that's
making seven to sixty five and goes to the Mets
with the Red Sox.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
We're in on this for a minute.

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
Matter of fact, I think I was watching lu Marloni,
you know, who's a broadcaster for them and does a
lot of videos, and I think Lou thought getting close
getting and the like, Oh, didn't have it, be patient
with it and mets.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Mets jump in and do their thing as we h.
As we get into the eight o'clock hour, let's talk
one soda because I got John Hayman. Did you see
what he reported about the security guards for the Yankees?

Speaker 16 (01:19:53):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
How they and his family. Oh we got to hearn
wait to hear this, because we'll get it. We'll get
into the text and stuff in the clock hours. Well,
let's let's hear that audio and discuss the next on
seven ninety.

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Christian Harris, Kenyon Green returned from ir for the Texans
Winter meetings in Major League Baseball continue. Heisman Trophy finalists
announced Ashton Gent, Travis Hunter, Dylan Gabriel Camward or your
finalists Bengals be the Cowboys. Last night in Monday Night Football,
let's uh talk real quick about Juan Soto. Obviously he

(01:22:35):
signed that monster deal with the Mets. Well, apparently he
was pretty upset with the Yankees and their security staff.
John Hayman on MLB Network last night spoke about what
the Yankee security guard did to Wan Soto's family one little.

Speaker 22 (01:22:58):
Issue, and I asked one Soto about this after they
lost the World Series.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
I took him aside and.

Speaker 22 (01:23:03):
Asked him there was one little issue with the Yankees
where a security guide booted either his mother or his
father had some area and there were some negative feelings
at that moment. Now, this I think is back in
April or May, and the same guy did it to
his driver and chef and the chef had a way
and driver had a way out in the rain. And

(01:23:24):
I mean Soto is a family guy. He was not
too happy at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
That's that's John Haymen reporting. So apparently Juan Soto, big
family guy, doesn't really go on party much, likes to
hang out with his parents, likes to hang out with
his family members. And a security guard for the Yankees
booted his parents excuse me, yes, mom and dad from
an area in the stadium back in April or May,

(01:23:51):
and he was pretty upset about it. And then the
same security guard threw out Juan Soto's driver and his
personal chef and they both had to wait out wait
outside in the rain, and it left a negative taste
or a sour taste in his mouth for the rest
of the season. In negotiations, reportedly, the Yankees wouldn't budge

(01:24:15):
on giving Juan Soto a sweet Yankee stadium for his family,
and they had a feeling that it couldn't be done
when Aaron Judge and Derek Jeter had to pay for
their sweets. So what did Steve Cohen do? He included
a city field sweet for SODA's family in the Mets
deeal well, you know what, he's got money pay for
your own sweet talking about if you want so.

Speaker 5 (01:24:35):
So if you're won soda, not only did you get
seven out of sixty five million, that's sweet. Probably cost
what a couple hundred grand for a season?

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Yeah, probably to a quarter of a million bucks probably
if you get it for a full family and foods
in it every single home game somewhere around there. You're
a family guy, just like I am. If a security
guard kicks your family out, Sean when you're when you
were playing in your day, come on, man.

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
Okay, but let me ask you this. So pissed right,
but now let me give you the other side. Of
course you would, of course you would. And then you
go and say, well, first off, my first thing happened.
My first thing is there's always another side to it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Oh yeah, I don't think that.

Speaker 5 (01:25:06):
From my advantage point, I can't imagine that. The guy said,
you know, that's one Sodo. I think I'm gonna screw
him over. He's been our second best player this year.

Speaker 17 (01:25:13):
Ye.

Speaker 5 (01:25:14):
So if they're standing outside and say hey, I'm want
Soto's chef, he just automatically it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Aman.

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
If one SODA's not standing there with him. Are you
just automatical saying, oh brocall let me please. I don't
know the whole situation.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
What I do know from my experience at Minima Park,
you're not allowed in the tunnels or anywhere without credentials
or a one day pass, a week pass, whatever it is,
a one day credential. I mean, so if he were
to get into the bowels of the stadium quote unquote,
he has to have some credential, so the security guards
are gonna know what people are in there. They have

(01:25:48):
little scanners. You scan the credential. It shows who it is.
You have a credential if he's down there, Yes, I'm assuming.
I'm assuming. Why are they stand outside getting rained on
them because they got kicked out of whatever area that is?
So the truth is we're just specting. I don't know
for sure. The thing I would be hell yeah, I'd
be Pissedah Well, I.

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
Was trying to attend a game this year and that
scanner thing showed the ticket that I bought or the
hat on there on the thing phone wouldn't let me
in because it didn't look said it's right here, but
it wouldn't scan on their thing will you go back
send me back out saying what I did, got the
car and went home, went home. Yeah, now you know

(01:26:26):
why I don't go to games.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:26:28):
This was football, not that I needed. I didn't start like,
do you know what? None of that. I was just
paying fan. But because the way download, they couldn't get it.
I said, you can see, and I showed them the
site and well it has to be different, huh and
they would wouldn't budget.

Speaker 16 (01:26:44):
So I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Just left, went home. Yeah, and I'm okay with it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:49):
I would and uh, And It'll be ten more years
before I try to go to the damn NFL football game.
Just said it was nobody's fault doing their job. Irritated, Yes,
but it was okay because I'd rather.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Watch it home. Also, I also think there's a and
again from my own experience, I've come across over exuberant security.

Speaker 5 (01:27:07):
No question, and I also have a job to do, right.
I've also come across entitled family too.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Yeah, that's true. Sotimes. I'm looking at both. If you
let him in and something happens, why that guy gets
special treatment. If you don't let him in, then he's
a he's a heel and an ask clown for for
I completely get it. And if you're Wan Sodo, I
get what. I would leave a little bit of tasting
your mouth.

Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
But you know what, Also, if you go down and
talk and maybe and find out why, then maybe you
won't be bitter. I mean, that can't be the reason
you left Yankee Stadium because I got news for you. You
may run into an over zealous one. That right, and
if you're pissed that think you deserve one, I'm sorry
to want Sodo. Uh, you don't deserve a suite more
than Derek Jeter did. Yeah, okay, if you had to

(01:27:51):
pay for.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Let's slow you.

Speaker 5 (01:27:53):
I know you're a great player, and I love the
guy's phenomenal. Butt's slow down a little bit after you
just made seven sixty five. It's too much for you
to drop a quarter of a million on your own
suite or whatever it is. I get what it's irritating
to you, But is that really the reason you're not
going to be a Yankee.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Don't they have family sweets anyway?

Speaker 5 (01:28:10):
Yeah, family areas, but some people want their own private suites.
I get it, I do get it, but I'm not
I'm not defending the security person, because the truth of
the matter is there are plenty of movers that that.
It's like, dude, you're you're taking tickets or a security site.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
You're not.

Speaker 5 (01:28:27):
You're you're walking down the street with riot gear on.
We're just trying to get into a game, want so
to and let's try to get to the bottom of it.
But I've seen both, like you said over exuberant, I'm
the boss security guy and also the do you know
who we are?

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
I don't really give a rats ask who you are.

Speaker 5 (01:28:45):
That guy paid for their ticket too well, So I
doubt that if Yankee fans are out of the security
guy blew it for us, well, then guess what Yankee
fans need to get a clue. And I'm not sure
it is that's the reason. But if that is part
of it, I get the irritation, but that can't be
the deciding factor. It's a simple mistake because I'm quite
sure Brian Cashman, how do you been around with and said,
you know what that let's let him in situation. So

(01:29:07):
I'm trying to see both sides of it to be
fair to both. But because I'm not one of those guys,
I'll be honest with you. I don't think wan so
To deserves special treatment for his family outside of a game.
He deserves the same treatment as somebody else stand out
there holding the baby or waiting to get in and
out of the ring. But common sense for the security
had they stay in the rain, Let them at least
walk into the air where they're covered, and you can
stand by there and make sure they don't go anywhere else. See,

(01:29:29):
that's what we've lost, this common sense stuff that people
don't it's cutting right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
No, it's not really that cutting right.

Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
And so my boss is gonna get mad at me,
so what yeah, hell dude, have you ever had a
boss mad at you?

Speaker 11 (01:29:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Yeah again? And a wife?

Speaker 5 (01:29:44):
A husband, And don't be pussified and have it to
the point where ooh the boss is mad. I can't
do something different, you know what, beg forgiveness rather than
ask permission, Let soda if on that side of it,
you know, pop in. And the other side of it
is try to get to somebody. If you're the chef
and then the security, just let's have a conversation. Maybe

(01:30:08):
you can get somebody who recognizes that and get him in.
It's just common sense on both sides, it's not do
you know who I am? And then the security guy, well,
I'm gonna play tough guy, you know what, Just just
communicate about it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
We have lost complete common sense. If I see somebody
standing out in the rain, you.

Speaker 5 (01:30:21):
Know I'm gonna do either giving him a umbrella or
come on in underneath the things, so you're not standing
out there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
That's common sense, right, Yeah, don't be a clown. Okay,
but you.

Speaker 5 (01:30:29):
Also, the deciding factor is not gonna be whether you
give me a sweet or not. I don't mind paying
for it. If Jeter paid for it. I hate to
tell you, Wan Soto, you're on your way to a
hall of fame. But guess who's already in it?

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
That guy.

Speaker 5 (01:30:41):
So slow your roll a little bit. I see both sides,
but from a distance, how the hell are we supposed
to know what I really said? But it makes for
a hell of a story. And I'm sure it's an
accurate story, but it makes for a hell of a story.
Well that's the deciding fact. Oh, they don't want to
give you a sweet, you got it. But also let
me ask you this, did lind Or get a free suite?
I don't think so. Not that I know of.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
Should he be pissed he had an MVP season? To
get my point? Yeah? Does the Lions will have a
free suite?

Speaker 11 (01:31:07):
Nah?

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Huhuh, he probably don't want one. Yeah, you bet your
ass he wants one, so do I. He probably guess what?
He probably just wants a couple of cores lives. I'm
not even a household name of my own home, so
guess what I got to pay for that? Sekkay yeah, exactly.

Speaker 11 (01:31:21):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
Let's uh, let's talk a little football. What's more likely
to happen the Texans go zero and three or three
and oh in their next three games. They're gonna play
three games in a span of ten days, obviously without
asas outshy here coming out to buy week. Let's discuss
the next On Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:31:38):
Sean Salisbury Brian The Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 18 (01:31:43):
Continues, Good good on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Listen me why and may all your Chris you really
hit He really made me in my feels earlier in
the seven o'clock hour, and you're like, are you you
guys realize we're fifteen days away from Christmas? And thanks
for that? Well, yesterday it was like seventy five had
to turn the air on so hot. You've seen the

(01:32:13):
weather for like tonight tomorrow and the next day. What
is it it's gonna be no, uh no, it's gonna
be uh muggy, no, like a low of like thirty
football weather. Dude.

Speaker 5 (01:32:25):
Yeah, shoot, short sleeves. Let's go play a matter of fact,
let's play two.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Yeah, the uh load tonight thirty seven low tomorrow night
thirty five. Actually it's probably I wouldn't be surprised if
it's colder. So it's gonna be cold, you know, step
up or step out there you go, that's what you
gotta do. Otherwise known is get to step and get

(01:32:51):
to step in. Bitch. Yeah, so what what? Why? Why?
Why I gotta be a bitch? Is Triple here today?
Right here there?

Speaker 6 (01:32:58):
He is?

Speaker 5 (01:32:58):
Make sure right here, man, make sure you're right. We
don't I got news for you. The show doesn't go
if Triple ain't there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
True. I agree, it's a fact because I can get
over there and doing that. I don't know if the
u n LV looking for a new head coach. By
the way, are they Barry otom haaded to Purdue? I
believe it's either done or close and uh, I'm going
to take that gig. Well, produce sucks, but he had
something going specially that's a you're coming to a pretty
good gig with the nil stof Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:33:27):
Well what he did is he opened up. He's now
paved a nice way for the next guy to come
in and say, we got something going on.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Yeah, so there you go. Good program man, that program
program that's right? Seven one three two five seven, Gary,
welcome in. No, no, hang on like two feet to
you're right, don't move? How about now Gary, can you
hear me?

Speaker 10 (01:33:51):
Beat?

Speaker 11 (01:33:51):
We go?

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
Perfect? Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:33:53):
Hey, guys, I on the Astros have a couple of
questions on the free agency.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
The four I have to comment on is that one Soto.

Speaker 9 (01:34:01):
That's of course they get pampering baby their whole life,
so it becomes natural to them. But I drive, I
deliver auto parts for ten dollars an hour, So no,
I don't have any sympathy for his chef and his chauffeur.

Speaker 14 (01:34:14):
Driver being put out in the rain.

Speaker 9 (01:34:16):
And excuse me, I just don't about that craft. So anyway, hey,
question on the Astros free agencies. For instance, Bregman, they
made in him, they made him an offer, right.

Speaker 5 (01:34:30):
Yeah, and it's apparently right now that they're not budging off.
What is around a buck sixty sixty years, right around
a buck sixty and he wants two hundred million. They
said they're about fifty million, I mean a part at least.
That's what was reported by a couple of these baseball insiders.

Speaker 6 (01:34:47):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 9 (01:34:48):
My question is, so somebody comes along and offers him
more than what the Astros offered him. Do the Astros
get a chance to counter and up that counter offer?

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
Say that again, Gary, we lost you again? Yeah, okay,
we got you now.

Speaker 11 (01:35:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:35:05):
So if they somebody comes along and offers him more money,
which is going to happen due the Astros get a
chance to counter their offer, to up that offer much more?

Speaker 5 (01:35:15):
Do they get a chance to I mean no, not,
They're not guaranteed a chance. I mean, but the normal
part of negotiations, Oh, they offered two let's say they
offered two hundred million for six years, you can because
that negotiating period where it is just the Astros has passed.
So if you're Scott Morris and you say to Bregman, hey,
six years, two hundred million for the Red Sox, what

(01:35:35):
do you want to do. We'll take it back to
the Astros and see if they want to get close
to Matt and if they don't, then it's done. You're
not obligated. You know, people talk about negotiation and good faith.
You are not obligated right now. He could take it.
The Astros could think that he's going to come back
when he gets an offer into it, and Boris could say,
we're not getting any higher, we're not even close. Take
this offer, and that's how the Astros find out. So yeah,

(01:35:56):
you know, you know, when it comes to respect, you'd
probably go back to ask and say, here's what's on
the table, and if they don't watch it. But you're
not obligating. You do not have to go back and
give the Astros do not. They're not in position where
they they that you legally have to go back.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
And right and offer.

Speaker 9 (01:36:12):
That's my question, is the that was my question, is obligated.
If he's not, he could take whatever offer's made. But uh,
you know, in my opinion, I've watched Astros forever, and
I'm an old guy and I've watched them forty five
Astros all that, and the money is out righteous but
they're the players are the one that brings the money in,
so so they're entitled of what the best most they
can get. But the Astros, uh, you know that much

(01:36:35):
money breg is I don't think Bregman's worth that much money.
Just give him an offer, you know my suggestion. Maybe
they already did give him an offer. That's your highest offer.
You're not going to go a penny over that. Don't
don't tiki tak heats. That's where you're losing. Offering maybe
thirty a year for five six years. That's about it.
And the same with uh uh with Tucker in right field.

(01:36:56):
You just can't go crazy with all these because you've
got other people coming up behind them. So, but that
was my main question was are they obligated to go
back to the Astros and'll let them match it? Or
somewhere down the line there was a sport that was obligated.
I don't know if it was basketball, football, or maybe
the baseball used to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
But that's what I was wondering, if they were obligated to.

Speaker 5 (01:37:16):
Go back obligated, no respect, Yes, just to you know
you've been there, so yeah, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
Gary, have a great day, man. Thanks thanks for the call.

Speaker 5 (01:37:24):
I'm one of the Remember when you'd go in and
buy a vehicle back in the day and it's still existing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:37:29):
Remember you go into buolin and they the salesperson would
come to you. Yeah, and then they go back and
I got to talk to my boss, Well, is your
boss ever going to empower your ass to come out
here and make your final Then we got to the
point people getting so frustrated, right that they'd say no
to here's the offer. Right when you go back and
you're bought, the sales guy and the finance guy are
sitting back there and they come out with some white

(01:37:49):
out and they do enough, and so you get to
listen with this, just give me your best offer. But
you know what your best offer is, never your your
final offers, never your final offer.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:38:00):
It's like a Country and Western star or Elton John
that retires and says I'm not going any more concentertors
and they going twenty five more. Yes, Jay, Yeah, Do
I have to The constant BS that goes with this
drives me nuts. I would love somebody come and say
listen one and one only. Here's six years for buck
ninety if you can beat it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
Take it. Not gonna do it. But I know that's
the art.

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
Of negotiation, but it's such a piss off for both sides. Yeah,
but don't car dealership me on your offer because I
get more even if you get close. I'm more pissed
off that I had to spend thirty minutes negotiating with you. You
went back to your boss four times and walk me
back out of here. You're wasting my time when I
knew you were going to get to Hey, this is

(01:38:42):
two hundred and fifty dollars over invus. Hey, here's my favorite.
We don't make any money off this, your ass. You
don't make any money off it. That's my favorite about everything.
I didn't make it any more, whether any walk of
life is all you know, I'm not making any money
off it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Then why are you doing it?

Speaker 16 (01:38:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:38:56):
Why are you just because you love me? Get the
hell out of You don't know me from Adam. No,
you're doing it because you are making money. Every salesperson
that sells some guess what they're doing. They're making a
dealership anywhere, making they're making money because they wouldn't sell it.
If they're not making money, they wouldn't waste their time,
and in this case, at some point in time he
just got a crap or get off the pop. Yeah,
and that's what we're about. We're about close to that.

(01:39:16):
I'm talking about both sides. Yeah, get it done, gotta
get it done, and it's gonna more than likely get
done somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
Yeah, I think so. Seven one three, two one two
five seven hiney biscuit Kenneth. We'll get back out to
you guys next. And we also at some point we're
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Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
We will start with Kenneth. Kenneth, what's happening.

Speaker 11 (01:40:56):
All out?

Speaker 7 (01:41:00):
Do?

Speaker 14 (01:41:00):
I would Saint Jude.

Speaker 23 (01:41:02):
I didn't make that confide, but when I got home
a long then they have a very easy dashboard you
can go to and drop the donation and that man
this uh huh and I they would do it for Astin.
You know, uh my mother she was survivor guys close
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Speaker 16 (01:41:26):
But but I want.

Speaker 23 (01:41:27):
To run some stuff by you guys, and I.

Speaker 6 (01:41:30):
Want to pose this question.

Speaker 12 (01:41:33):
About this.

Speaker 14 (01:41:34):
Sot and Brick can't.

Speaker 23 (01:41:37):
Do ynte either one of these guys, do you like
you rate him good or great?

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
I would say, Alex Bregman? What did he say? Wan
and Tucker? Do you think Bregman's great? I think go ahead?

Speaker 14 (01:41:56):
Yeah, good or great?

Speaker 5 (01:41:59):
I think And we're not talking about potential. We're talking
about potential or how they are now Now I think
he's good.

Speaker 23 (01:42:05):
I think we're talking we're talking this money. This to
jure Hall of Fame. So we're talking about money, talking
about money.

Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
Are these just great?

Speaker 23 (01:42:18):
I'm talking about hall famous?

Speaker 6 (01:42:21):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
Le me?

Speaker 11 (01:42:22):
They are?

Speaker 5 (01:42:23):
SOO is on his way to the Hall of Fame. Yeah,
so Sodo's pass, says Hall of Fame. There's no there's
no okay, And so I'd say great. But what Tucker
and Bregman both good they've had great he well, let
me answer me. Let me, Kenneth, let me answer the
question first. They both are they?

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
They? They?

Speaker 5 (01:42:41):
I think they both have great moments, and I think
they both have great potential. I think both are really
good players. I don't think Kyle Tucker's postseason puts you
can't label him potential great, but postseason production great players,
I mean, great production happens also in the postseason, right
his Kirk Cousin's a good court of that's a great one.
He's a good one and he's been in the MVP

(01:43:02):
talk before. And so with that, I think both good.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
Right now.

Speaker 5 (01:43:06):
If Alex Bregman's career ended in three years, he's not
a Hall of Famer. Kyle Tucker is not a Hall
of Famer either right now?

Speaker 23 (01:43:13):
Yeah, because he is where I man, I'm you know,
not literally, but I'm lacking guys that went to sleep
in the seventies, eighties and nineties and woke up right
now and looking at the astronomical.

Speaker 16 (01:43:28):
Payrolls and stuff like this.

Speaker 23 (01:43:30):
And I'm talking about numbers, men, that's astronomical, and players
are just not jumping out at me now. I wanted
to bring this up because we talk about the other
players and all of this, and I can never get
San Diego to ninety San Diego Padres. And they had

(01:43:55):
a manager. Man, this guy was something else and I think,
uh Cam Kevin there, it was about the only one
you could see was the superscar on that team, and
he had the ability to get talent and put together team.
And I like watching them because they reminded me of
little league players where they hustled on the field. Off

(01:44:15):
the field, they like they was playing the play. And
I kind of see that with the Lashtros because they
have ability man to get good players and still make
the grades.

Speaker 6 (01:44:28):
You know what do y'all think about that?

Speaker 10 (01:44:30):
Uh?

Speaker 14 (01:44:30):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:44:31):
This one more thing, oh Sean, And do you think
you that you was in Minnesota with hersh Walker?

Speaker 11 (01:44:38):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
I sure was.

Speaker 23 (01:44:42):
Once he coached out of that I'm talking about, I
would put it like this young coach because the guy
had you know, he was a damn good player. Because
the word on the street in the barber shop is
that it was the coach was the reason why he
didn't get his status, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:59):
And I'm an thank you, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:45:04):
Well, we'll get back to the bit just about Herschel.
Herschel return kicks for US ran. Herschel wasn't in an
NFL pass He wasn't great out of the back of
the SLUL screen game.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
He was.

Speaker 5 (01:45:16):
He's a hell of a runner. Did and all that
stuff you talk about. Did he work out or did
he just do push ups and sit ups? He did
push up situps. He was chiseled out of stone in
a great team. He during practice, he'd would play scout team.
He did it all. He wanted to be all. He
want to do it all, and so I loved him
for that. We had good coaches, Yeah, I can go
through some over the years, Tom Moore, Bob Schnelker, Mark Trestman,

(01:45:39):
Brian Billick. We were loaded with good play callers. Herschel
was a hell of a player. Herschel's running style was
probably I mean, he was a better runner when he
was at Georgia and he was the featured guy in
the NFL. He just couldn't run it within thirty five
times a game. That you know, we started things started
to change with the passing game. Herschel was great. Could
he been in the Pro Bowl? And yeah, he was

(01:46:00):
good enough to do it. But we also then Robert
Smith came in, and we and Terry Allen. We had
some players, and Herschel was really really good, really good,
but he wasn't in our offense. When you had Chris Carter,
Jake Reid, Anthony Carter. We couldn't live by handing the
ball off alone. And then we went and got Roger Craig,

(01:46:20):
who was a versatile player. So Herschel was damn good,
but the stats weren't important to the team. Which was
important is being able to run it and throw it,
and we did both. It just wasn't like at Georgia
when Buck Blow and that group was there Georgia. Just
you know, he was that guy. He was the best
runner in the country as a freshman right at Georgia.
So yeah, I know, nothing against Herschel. Herschel was special

(01:46:44):
and I love him, but we had too many weapons
just to make it a one guy thing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
We just did.

Speaker 5 (01:46:49):
You got Chris and Anthony Carter and Steve Jordan who
was in a Pro Bowl like six times.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
Tight in you don't we ain't just running it?

Speaker 5 (01:46:55):
Yeah, And I mean we had Robert Smith who was
a phenomenal player, but we weren't just running it. But
Herschel was reliable. We just we had we we had
too many weapons to be uh, one player dominant. And
I think the Cowboys felt the same way. And looking
in the trade and help them and and Herschel. That's
a lot of pressure to carry around in a burden

(01:47:16):
where you you won for eleven hard to do.

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
It's a lot, man, What a freaking trade that was. Yep,
that's unbelievable. We'll never probably never see that again. You won't,
you won't, crazy man.

Speaker 5 (01:47:27):
Yeah, but back to when we'll we come back and
talked about the Bregman. Do you agree with me? Both
great moments, both great potential at times, great Bregman, great.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
Glove, there's no question. Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:47:38):
But overall on the on their course there on right now,
I wouldn't label them future Hall of Famer, no future
m VP. Maybe Yeah, I mean it's just uh that's
goes Soto's better than he's the best of the three,
and I think that's obvious.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
Yeah. Yeah, let's continue to talk about that next right
here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 13 (01:48:03):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year from I Heart Radio
seven one, three, five seven ninety's never to join, Biscuit.
We appreciate you holding brother.

Speaker 19 (01:48:17):
Good morning, Hey, top of the morning, my brothers. Heylima Shine.
I was talking to Triple Lee man and I I
had to admit I got a heavy heart.

Speaker 6 (01:48:27):
Man.

Speaker 19 (01:48:27):
I just just found out about miss Carroll.

Speaker 8 (01:48:30):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:48:31):
It just you know, that's my heart.

Speaker 20 (01:48:34):
Man.

Speaker 19 (01:48:34):
I sed all And and Triple League and vouch Ice
always ask about her.

Speaker 6 (01:48:38):
You know when she the.

Speaker 19 (01:48:39):
Last time she was on, she said what she said.
I I knew time was drawing near, but I you know,
I just want to just different families out there, you know,
you know, wish them the best, and they had my beat.

Speaker 6 (01:48:50):
This is sympathy.

Speaker 5 (01:48:51):
And Carroll, Biscuit, you have never once wavered from always
bringing her up. And you know how we've we're going
to talk about it in the nine o'clock hour. We
both tweeted about it yesterday. Not that that matters. And
the support that people show for miss Carroll, and she's
a legend here she is. God rest her soul, and

(01:49:12):
you know she unfortunately you know when she said she
had cancer. It's seventy one years old, and may she
rest in peace. What a phenomenal human being, A great
woman in genuine love, not only for she loved the Astros.
Nobody's more passionate, but I think she loved the show.
And we're grateful because we loved her as well, and
we appreciate you and all those who have supported her.

(01:49:33):
Sometimes people were having bad days, and even when Miss
Carroll was suffering through cancer, she was still energetic about
the Astros and was still her normal, feisty, stubborn, awesome, passionate,
compassionate self.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
And we appreciate you bringing it up. And it does.

Speaker 5 (01:49:49):
It tugged it and mine and Brian's hit us both
hard yesterday. And you know, there's not enough words to
describe it, but it is. It's a it really is,
and that it goes back to constantly check on your
friends and people you care about, and I, uh, you know,
you just you hope that it was peaceful for her

(01:50:11):
in the end. And what a fantastic human being. And
we appreciate you bringing it up.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
We love her.

Speaker 5 (01:50:17):
And Miss Carroll passed away at the age of seventy one,
dined from cancer. So to her family and to all
the people who loved her, we we we sure appreciate
not only you, but people support her, and it was
almost like it was family. Well not almost. It feels
feels like it's family for us. And she's been an
incredible support system for our show. So thank you, man,
and God bless her.

Speaker 19 (01:50:38):
She remind me and my mom, And that's kind of
that's why I hit me. I think real hard. You
know that generation shot out a different generation.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
Yes, it is tougher than any generation, Yes, agreed.

Speaker 19 (01:50:49):
I mean I had an aunt that way.

Speaker 11 (01:50:51):
Man.

Speaker 19 (01:50:51):
I went to the Milwaukee and the aunt you said,
go to us, to the doctors, and we go to
the doctor's office, and the doctor's asking in qui and stuff,
and she had pain in her back and a rib
and a heart and kidneys, and she just I'm okay,
you know.

Speaker 11 (01:51:08):
What I mean.

Speaker 19 (01:51:09):
You know what I mean, Sha, We get a little
finger something in our finger and we want to make
a big deal about it. These people they just say, Man,
they just kept pressing on, and I just you know,
I I give homage to that generation, Sean. And to
transition into what you were talking about earlier with the UH,
it's more than just common sense, Sean, like you talked

(01:51:31):
about with the solo situation, Sometimes we just don't have
good people enough good people anymore? Sean. I firmly believe
that because sometimes you know, okay, can you just make
a call. You mean, it's that hard to find out
if they be legit or not.

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
You can't.

Speaker 19 (01:51:46):
You gotta just kick them out.

Speaker 6 (01:51:48):
You can't make it.

Speaker 19 (01:51:48):
We don't do that no more, Sean. We don't go
the extra mile. We don't with selfish people.

Speaker 5 (01:51:55):
Sometimes the people do just enough or fall fall shore.
You're right, and you know what's crazy. It's like, well,
they're cutting into my thirty seconds to make a phone
call or to care or and it's sobering to hear
what you just said. There's not there's not enough good people.
And that's sad, but you're honestly, it really is. And
back to Miss Carroll and that generation Biscuit is it's

(01:52:19):
also when you talk about your you know you said
it was your aunt, right, is that what you said
your is is? First of all, they're tough. They'll look
at a doctor like I got cancer, Well I'm beating cancer.
Don't even tell me what I'm gonna you know what
I mean? And when they talk when when you're in
the kitchen, I always think about it when with my
family or when you go to a buddy's and they're
and you go in there and start to nibble in

(01:52:39):
the kitchen and grab something and they slap your hands
say get out, you're not gonna And the respect, you
can stay them right in the eye and they could
say anything they want to and you're like, I'm messing
with her, right. The toughness that that generation, it's toughness
and respect, common sense, and we we Unfortunately common sense
seems to cost too much money these days because not
enough people have it. And kindness just doing a little

(01:53:00):
bit of extra due diligence.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
I don't get it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:04):
Miss Carroll was a fabulous person, but we see it
a lot in society. And not to do with miss Carroll,
but you're talking about the Sodo situation. Yeah, you're right,
let's get we we've it's got we've lost. It's got
lost in not everybody. It's not a blanket statement, but
it's got lost somewhere in translation.

Speaker 19 (01:53:18):
It really has the Golden rules. Yeah, yep, as you
would have them do under you.

Speaker 5 (01:53:26):
And if you live by that rule, right, if we
live by the rule, the world's a better place man,
and we all be better, no doubt brother.

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
Appreciate you, Ma.

Speaker 12 (01:53:35):
Man Carroll yep.

Speaker 5 (01:53:38):
Appreciate your compassion as always, Biscuit, thank you. It's always tough, man.
She was only seventy one.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
Yeah, and you know what, and like you said, we
were gonna, you know, discuss her in the nine o'clock hour.
I think I'm getting ready to tweet something out and
I'll retweeted from our seven ninety account as well. But
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that I put out, you know, saying that miss Carroll
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twenty twenty four, right now, it's sitting at forty five
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and fifty eight likes, and and just you go through these,
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Speaker 5 (01:55:07):
Had too many of them, too many. I couldn't take
too many, take a full four hour show. But yeah,
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I mean, and the majority of the comments are, man,
she's sweet lady, or I loved her energy, yeah, or
she always made me feel better. She was always. Now
that that's a true astro. Now she could find she
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about what was going on and still find something positive

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So the Good Lord has a seat next to him
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and probably probably she'll banter with the Good Lord about
how good the Astros are if he said, well, you know,
I like the Dodge. No, we're Astros fans up here. Yeah,
she'll be missed, man, and uh dearly missed. Yeah, and
seventy one's too young and way too young. Mortality sucks,

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Speaker 2 (01:57:23):
We're gonna welcome in Emmy Award winning Fox Sports broadcast
covering Major League Baseball and the NFL and NASCAR. Chris Myers.

Speaker 5 (01:57:30):
Yeah, and my mic is all over the place, so
I'm excited to have Chris on my hit. My arms
are flopping and longtime friend of mine forever, and we
would spend the whole interview talking about his resume if
we did from studio to baseball to NASCAR play by
play in the NFL, and he's done it well for
a long time. And he's got a new book out
It's called That Deserves a Wow. The untold stories about legends,

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the good and the bad of him and he joins
us now and he's a friend of the show. Appreciate
having him on. Chris, welcome in brother, and happy holidays
to you, my man. Great to have you on.

Speaker 24 (01:58:02):
Yes, thank you, Sean, it's good to catch up with
you again. And Brian, good to talk to you. Thanks
for having me on.

Speaker 5 (01:58:08):
No problem. We're going to get to that book in
a second. Let's let's talk NFL first. What you calling
the games and seeing it in every single week like
you do. What's your biggest takeaway negative and positive from
this season so far?

Speaker 24 (01:58:23):
What you've seen well, I mean the negative what jumps
out right away? And I don't know what expectations were,
but I have have run into calling calling some Giants
games and then observing the Jets and the two New
York teams with their decisions from the front office to
the way that they're running and I guess this really
isn't a surprise, and their quarterback situation, I I mean

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it's pitiful and watching these teams even even at this stage,
so that jumps out as a disappointment. The Raiders probably
would fall into that category. Obviously the teams have you
could have a good quarterback. But then you have to
have the right kind of coaching and team around to
go far. Even watching Jill Burrow last night, I'm like, man,
how did this quarterback with this guy on this team?

(01:59:07):
How is their record not better? Well, you can see
you know their defense isn't very good, and look, injuries
are part of it. Called a lot of games with
teams with injuries. I did call some Lions and Eagles
games earlier in the year, and so it doesn't surprise
me that their record is where they are. Detroit to
me just looks like they're going to be in the
super Bowl, regardless.

Speaker 6 (01:59:26):
Of the question is just just who they who they
end up facing.

Speaker 24 (01:59:30):
And those are some of the things just kind of
off off the top of my head. I think harvaugh
has been a difference maker with the Chargers. I've seen
that no matter how far they go, I think they
will get into the playoffs and teams that passed on
having him as their head coach, whether it Chicago or not,
what Dan Quinn has done with Jane Daniels in Washington,
I think they'll still make the playoffs, get the calls

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of those the games of those teams. So those are
the ones that are coming to mind right away, and disappointed,
I believe in capably. I'm just disappointed again in the
coaching there and some of the decisions of that ownership made.

Speaker 5 (02:00:02):
Chris Chris Myers joins us Fox play by play. You've
seen him do Baseball, NASCAR studio. He is a Swiss
army knife. He's the master of all and the jack
of all trades and has been doing it for a
long time. Friend of the show, and we'll get to
his book. It's that uh that, let's see, make sure
I get it right. Uh Wow, that's exactly right, the
old Wow Factor book. And we'll discuss that here in

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a second. Chris, Just because we're here in Houston and
you know, up the interstate about four hours as of
Dallas Cowboys, I contend that the owner should never be
the face of a franchise. And the Cowboys have a
sniffed a Super Bowl in a long time, will it change?
And should your owner be the guy addressing and and
basically undermining the head coach in the hallway after a

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game on a regular basis.

Speaker 6 (02:00:47):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 24 (02:00:48):
Jerry Jones likes the attention and that's why Jimmy Johnson
and that broke up. We all know that going way
back historically, and I got to cover that team a
lot of years from what he wanted the team when
I was at ESPN and was assigned to ub him
at his first takeover, firing Tom Landry at doing what
he did. But these are different times, and he always
Jerry always brings up that, Hey, I was, I played football.

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I'm not only the owner, this is my investment. I'm
the general manager too, And look at it, it's difficult
for head coaches to be coordinators or to call plays
in the same way that an owner is. And I
agree with you shouldn't be the face of a franchise.
You could still get all the attention and the accolades
that we look at Robert Krabb. You stay out of it,
at least for a while anyway, So he got a

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taste of a vague in front of the camera and
being the star, and I just yeah, that current coaching situation.
Will it change, you know? I don't think so. I
talked to Troy went about this a number of times
back we were with and he's gotten heat for it
from Cal. It won't change as long as Jerry is
the owner and he talks about a family operation where
he wants to hand it off to his family, whether

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it's Stephen Jones, and he treats it differently down the road.
But as long as Jerry is there, I just don't
see them changing the way things are done.

Speaker 6 (02:02:00):
They do some good things and they've got.

Speaker 24 (02:02:02):
The brand, but but I just it's sad, even if
you're not a Cowboy fan, to see them disappoint their
fans with just a year in and year out false hopes.

Speaker 2 (02:02:12):
We're going to get to the Texans in a second.
But the overall officiating is always a comp you know.
It seems like we have injuries in officiating every year, right, Chris,
I mean we talk about it, well, this is the
worst year ever. I don't know if it is or isn't,
but it feels to me like with the naked eye
from a distance that we're missing calls we shouldn't miss.
Are are are we there? Well?

Speaker 5 (02:02:32):
I mean the simple stuff, just like a quarterback. You know,
the great ones make the simple stuff all the time, right.
The ordinary play always looks ordinary to Brady, to Manning,
to Warren Moon, they make it look ordinary, and the
great officials, we just don't hear from that, they make
it look ordinary. So are we at where are we
with officiating right now? In your mind, Chris, you've seen
it from the time for a lot of year, decades.

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Where are we?

Speaker 6 (02:02:55):
Yeah, No, it's a good it's a good point.

Speaker 2 (02:02:57):
I think.

Speaker 24 (02:02:57):
Well, I don't know if it's gotten worse, but they
can't seem to see what we're seeing, which is laughable
in the in this modern day of technology. And I
think by that, I mean the TV cameras are showing
us things that people on the field are missing. The
officials for example last night, and I yeah, look the
face masks. They're talking about safe you know, that violation

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there should be Well if we have expedited reviews and
people watching in New York and it shouldn't just be
a primetime game every game, an officials should be watching
that and a video and they could holler down connect
out of the referee on the field, and that should
those should all be reviewable all the time because that's
a safety issue. It's a major penalty, and that's you know,
change that And I know that's the thing that bothers me.

(02:03:40):
They have the technology. I think they're going forward. One
thing I've I've learned too. Shot at people. I know
they're familiar, but obviously Primetime is a Sunday night, Monday night,
the big after do the laid out They have more
cameras than the other the earlier games often and so
until you have the same number of cameras at least
starting out in the same places to give the official
or the home office watching in New York a good

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view of that, you got to use it. We're past,
you know, replay and slowing the game down. We've got
to use the technology we have, and whether that's making
a little more like the collegiate game, but everything should
be under review, and I know it might slow it down.
I know they tried with the pass interference. Some things
don't work, and you can question every call, but to me,
they used to use clear and obvious and when we
could all see it, as you just pointed out on television,

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and they're missing it, well, that's there's something wrong there.

Speaker 6 (02:04:28):
I'll give the NFL.

Speaker 24 (02:04:29):
Credit because I go to these seminars every year with
our NFL guys that from they call the games, and
we meet with officials, and Carrera and Dean played, you know,
we go over these and they try to find better
ways and explain to us for safety also to make
the game better for the for the viewer and the fans,
and hopefully that's one of the directions they'll continue to
go in.

Speaker 5 (02:04:47):
Chris asis Alshai here the three game suspension, you know,
with the Trevor Lawrence hit, you can comment on that
here with Houston because that's a big loss for them
these next three games, which are brutal, but I'll push
it forward. Do we overput with all the safety but
have we gotten to the point the integrity of the
games in danger because we overprotect quarterbacks fair and not fair?

Speaker 2 (02:05:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:05:09):
Yeah, No, I think we do overprotect.

Speaker 24 (02:05:11):
And when they're on the run, and I think we've
seen Mahomes, Josh Allen, we've seen them take advantage of that,
and there's a few that come to mind. I'm not
saying they're going anything wrong. They're just using the benefit
to help their team win. And they can act like
they're going to sidestep out of bounds and then they
don't as somebody doesn't want to level and or get
a penalty, and then they pick up a few more
yards and get their team and field goal range when

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it matters most. So that's an area I think that
needs to be looked at.

Speaker 6 (02:05:36):
You do have to.

Speaker 24 (02:05:37):
Protect the quarterbacks. They're the stars, and boy it makes
a difference when you look around the league and those
teams that lose their quarterbacks, like injuries are part of
the game.

Speaker 6 (02:05:44):
You know what, you played it.

Speaker 24 (02:05:46):
But I do think they've got to fine tune that
a little bit or else. You know, you've heard they
returning into flag football with the quarterbacks. Sometimes we are,
but when they leave, when they start running, when they
leave the pocket, and a number of injuries are in
the pocket too, with ankles and that just happens. That's
part of the game, or hit below the knee, that
type of thing unintentionally, sometimes their own players. But I

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do think they have to kind of look at that
more closely about you know, how quarterbacks run, what the
penalties are when.

Speaker 6 (02:06:14):
People hit them.

Speaker 2 (02:06:15):
Yeah, I hate the slide.

Speaker 5 (02:06:16):
Most quarterbacks will tell you they hate the rules to
overprotect even quarterbacks himself. The feet first slide is nothing,
but you're putting yourself and exposing yourself to some major
injuries anyway, all right, Emmy Award winning Chris Myers, he
has been the play by play. He's done studio, he
does baseball, he does NASCAR, he has done it all
for decades and one of the best in the business
that we have also author it's let's see that deserves

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a wow.

Speaker 2 (02:06:41):
I want to make sure you get right.

Speaker 5 (02:06:42):
That deserves a wow, which is great stories about legends
and some of the things, the good and the bad.
They go through why the book and tell us a
little bit about it and some of the maybe a
tease of one of the great stories.

Speaker 24 (02:06:54):
Chris, Yeah, well, it's about a lot of wow moments
in sports.

Speaker 6 (02:06:59):
I'll simplify.

Speaker 24 (02:06:59):
If you took the movie Forrest Gump, you took the
movie with Cameron, you know, cavicrot about the young rock
and roll journals got into the business early with the
band Almost Famous, Right. You took those two and put
them with a sports theme around them. That's kind of
you knows. It's not so much about me but my life.

(02:07:20):
It's a little bit through the sports world, and I
think sports mirrors so much of our lives in terms
of comebacks, overcoming adversity, of victory defeat.

Speaker 6 (02:07:28):
In whatever we do. So having at a young age,
you know, when I had my.

Speaker 24 (02:07:32):
First interview as a teenagers Muhammad Ali and then later
covering Super Bowls when Mahomes and Reid, when they're first,
when Brady wins the greatest comeback overtime against Atlanta. There's
some NFL moments, there's some World Series moments covering that
with Fox Sports, some early years at ESPN, the golden
years of the nineties, what I call them. They weren't
growing network, but they were the only game in town.
So it covers a lot of things with a lot

(02:07:54):
of interesting personalities. There's some NBA in there with Kobe
Bryant and Will Chamberlain, the Charles Barkley. Bill Murray wrote
the forward, there's a connection from the SPS.

Speaker 6 (02:08:02):
Through the years.

Speaker 24 (02:08:03):
We've kind of had an interesting, unique association. He's in
a stude sports van and their attending guy. But the
odd part about it, maybe the forst Gumpy in part,
is is that I was there to cover a sporting
event and something bigger happened at the earthquake. It was
at the Age Giants World Series. An earthquake happens and
then I report on it. But the Olympics in Atlanta
doing it and taking a late Sports Center segment and

(02:08:25):
a bomb goes off, and then we have to report
on that, and we're really the only ones in that
situation at the time that can report live. And then
I'm at the Daytona five hundred with Fox doing the
pre and the post race show, and Dale Earnhart, the
face of the sport dies in the Great American Race,
and then you have to bring that to an audience
to it. It changes a little bit from the fun

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and games of sports to what really turns out to
be some life and death.

Speaker 6 (02:08:49):
But anyway, I hope people enjoy it.

Speaker 24 (02:08:51):
I hope they're entertained by it inspired too, because there's
a lot of that in the book with a lot
of people you know and have heard them in and
around sports, and we use rawl a lot in our
lives in terms of expressing things, so it's usually an
upbeat thing.

Speaker 5 (02:09:03):
Chris, you know, we've known each other a long time
and you've covered so many events, but just hearing you
talk about this, you know, we don't put two and
two together, like Chris was at that event, and Chris
was at that event, and Chris called that game, and
Chris was at Daytona five on which I've still gut
wrenching thinking about the Dale Earnhardt situation. But you being
there witnessing it. I mean, you're the fascinating career you've

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had and it's going along and hell, real quick, has
anybody on air been at Fox longer than you?

Speaker 14 (02:09:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:09:33):
Yeah, well the early let's see that the Terry.

Speaker 2 (02:09:36):
Bradshaw, right, that's fair, right, yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 24 (02:09:39):
Started because right, that was the first sport. In ninety four,
the NFL came on, right, and that's all that they had,
remember it was it was The Simpsons and Fox Sports.
So I was I was a decade at ESBN, then
at the end of the nineties joined Fox Sports, and
then they added baseball, and they added NASCAR, and now
of course they have soccer and college football and college basketball.
So yeah, it was a decade at ESPN. It's only

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plush years now at at Fox. And of course now
we have, as you know, going through the years of
channel for every sport and social media. But that, you know,
the reason I wrote the book. I was approached by
somebody and they said, hey, can you tell you.

Speaker 2 (02:10:14):
We need to hear your stories?

Speaker 24 (02:10:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And there's some fun was there with
Muhammad Ali, you know, almost beat me up? And when
he got out of prison and I was interviewing him
at his home and I asked a question he didn't
like and he lunged at me, and and and then
how he reacted after. So watching him fight recently brought
back that memory. But that's in the book as well,
and some of my own personal involvement with dealing with

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Bill Belichick after that that perfect season super Bowl where
they lost, I had to work that sideline for the
network and I had to get and talk to him
and it was a very difficult thing. And then I
got to call where, if you say got to I
got to call his last game as the Patriot head
coach and a snowy, ugly mess of a game with
the Jets where they lost and of course both teams
were out of it. And is how he had kind
of changed, and how I see him in broadcasting, which

(02:10:58):
is familich for the moment, very very entertaining. So there's
there's a lot of that. There's kind of something for everything.
And also I think for people who enjoy broadcasting or
sports and have an interest in that, I think they
can take a lot a lot from it about either
their own career that's relatable or where it might lead
them in making a career.

Speaker 5 (02:11:15):
Chris, you're as tough as it gets, and you if
we stood the test time. You don't want Muhammad Ali
throwing a right hook on you when he was alive
right at.

Speaker 2 (02:11:23):
You don't want that. Yeah, that's one thing you don't want, right,
none of us do.

Speaker 24 (02:11:27):
Yeah, or Tyson because he you know, you saw in
the ring with Holyfield when he snapped and in this
interview when he was he'd get a LUNs to. Thankfully,
he was not in great shape at the time, but
his one of the guys he sparred with, one of
his bodyguards got all held him back, but he got
into my face and I provoked him at cussling of
me and waving his arm that I thought, I I

(02:11:49):
you know, I'm white. I turned whiter because I thought
he snapped me in half. There you go, it was
I had no choice. But anyway, he ended up finishing
the interview, so that was respectful.

Speaker 2 (02:11:59):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (02:12:00):
All right, I'm gonna give you a wish you get
you get an hour with a non sports figure because
you've done that too. You know you've you've you've hosted
I believe you hosted up close for a while too.
I mean, I mean you've done a bunch of those
as well.

Speaker 6 (02:12:16):
Yeah, that was that famous ojacent That's.

Speaker 5 (02:12:18):
Exactly right, that's exactly right. So you I mean, hell,
you've been involved in so many unbelievable stories, as many
as anybody in this business.

Speaker 2 (02:12:25):
So I'll ask you this.

Speaker 5 (02:12:26):
You get one hour to interview a non sports person
and to interview a sports person at different times, and
they've got to come completely clean. There is there, it's
completely unfiltered with all you've done. Give me, give me
a name of each. If you've thought about it.

Speaker 24 (02:12:42):
Wow, I have it in this sense of you know,
just what comes to mind right away a non sports person. Uh,
I think I've entertainment people more than political figures, which
my father, who was in the military was at the
Dormity invasion would would would smack me for saying, Hey,
you know, go with somebody historical, but just somebody relatable.
Carson or Jack Nicholson as entertainers, right that were you know,

(02:13:04):
Johnny was a big Tennis fan. Nicholson of course a
big Laker fan. But those would be interesting guys to
sit and talk to you about their careers and about
their sports connection. But those are those if even if
we stayed away from sports, I think I'd be fascinated
by those guys, how successful they were in different ways.
And as as a sports figure. Boy, you know, Babe
Ruth would be one that comes to mind in baseball,

(02:13:25):
and just because you know, you read so much and
hear so much, but you know, we didn't have the
visual evidence of things. There's a few of those things
out there, but that's that's one that jumps out. And
sports wise, let's yeah, ran boy, you know, it's funny quarterbacks.
Through the years that I was younger, I interviewed people
like the course of their later years, but Barn Starr
and Johnny Unitis and then Montana and Elway and then

(02:13:47):
recently you know Mahomes, Josh Allen. So the range of
quarterbacks have always been fascinated with quarterbacks. So maybe somebody
from back in the historical area, like an Auto Graham
or Sammy Vass something that way before by time, so
I can learn more and ask him about what they
think about today if they were still with us.

Speaker 2 (02:14:03):
Would you if pet Rose does he belong in the
Hall of Fame?

Speaker 24 (02:14:07):
Chris, Yes, absolutely, And I changed on this that's one
thing not in the book. But that was one of
my first assignments was to get out of spring Train
and hey, the words out that Pete may get banished.

Speaker 6 (02:14:15):
He's got a gambling problem.

Speaker 24 (02:14:16):
I covered that with Bargieomani and went to the to
the trials, this whole thing in and out of prison.
Then later worked with him when he was briefly in
Fox and I used to think, hey, you know, no,
but with what's going on through the steroid era and
with the gambling the way it is today in a
number of sports, and they can hide it all they want,
the reality is there. He absolutely, if you're going to
use put his bats from his hits in the Hall

(02:14:38):
of Fame. And he should have got this before he died.
But so I changed on that he yes, absolutely deserves
to be.

Speaker 5 (02:14:45):
In the Hall of Fame, a man Emmy Award winning
and the book is that deserves a wow. And I'll
ask you, Okay, you imagine getting all bookstores and online
and everything. Is there any specific place, Chris you want
to tell them where to go?

Speaker 24 (02:14:57):
It's yeah, thanks, Sean, it's a Barnes and Noble or
you know, Target, Walmart. But the easiest thing is online
Amazon you can order. There's also the audio books right
where I go through the whole thing in my voice
talking about some of the some of the stories that
we discussed here and and a lot more some golfing
there as well. But yes, thank you for the interest
in it and from Bill Murray.

Speaker 2 (02:15:18):
Entertaining story as an avid reader.

Speaker 5 (02:15:22):
I'm going to buy a copy and because you know,
I want to want you to keep making money on
it too, aside from the great stories. And I'm going
to somehow, some way get it signed by you because
I very I mean all these great stories and the
insight you've had and from our friendship. I can't wait
to read it, and I'm sure everybody else it's that
deserves a whole It's Chris Myers, Emmy Award winning and
you can find him every week doing something for Fox

(02:15:42):
and back on the game call this weekend. Chris, It's
always a pleasure, my man, and you're always welcome here
anytime and we love having you on.

Speaker 24 (02:15:50):
Yeah, good luck to the Texas. Will do you get
a chance to talk a lot about it, But I'm
a to meet go Riot and c J.

Speaker 6 (02:15:54):
Stroud fan and they.

Speaker 24 (02:15:55):
Should have set you a book by the way, so
I'll make sure we'll say it or get you what
if maybe i'll see it super Bowl, if not down
the road.

Speaker 5 (02:16:01):
I would love that real quick now that you mentioned it,
because I didn't want you to have I mean, with
all this time, I wish we had more time. Is
can success with the Texans? Did they get too much
success in the offseason? Or do you think that they
can handle success as well as they handled the failure
of the year before.

Speaker 6 (02:16:17):
Yeah, no, no, I don't think it's too much success.

Speaker 24 (02:16:19):
I think I think some depth and you know they're
dealing with injuries as part of it. But if you
have depth and experience, you get through that. I don't
believe in.

Speaker 6 (02:16:26):
The sophomore and last year, I got to call three.

Speaker 24 (02:16:28):
Or four games yep with the Texans, and so I
saw Stroute and I saw Slock, and I saw with
the Meco Ryans and the defense and how they handled
they see and I called some games a year before
and I saw how bad things were.

Speaker 6 (02:16:39):
So you know, I looked at I haven't called in
their games this year, but look they have. I know
it was earlier, but you hang on to.

Speaker 24 (02:16:45):
Certain things and that signature win with Buffalo, and then
you look at some of the tough losses. I mean,
other than getting blown out by I think it was
the Vikings, and I'm trying to go off that, but
you know they were there with Green Bay it was
a close game, they weren't. The Tennessee thing was a
little embarrassing, but they were far off at the Lions.
That tells me they if they if their mind's right
and they're playing their best, which they need to be,

(02:17:06):
and they'll get into playoffs, then they can stay with
some teams, can they beat You look at the top
Buffalo in Kansas City. Well, they did beat the Bills earlier.
I think Buffalo is a different team right now, but
you see what happened to them with the Rams. So no,
I don't think it's too much success. I just think
it's it's growing and adding other parts to a program
that's really only in its third year. And so I
wouldn't be disappointed, you know, I know it's not what

(02:17:27):
we thought it would be. I thought they'd have a
better record too right now, but handling some of those
upset losses is the problem and hopefully they'll correct that.

Speaker 5 (02:17:34):
And your recall is still as top shelf as it
gets brother, I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (02:17:38):
That deserves a WHOW.

Speaker 5 (02:17:39):
You can get it at you know, Barnes and Noble
and get it online as Chris Myers and one of
the best there is.

Speaker 2 (02:17:45):
Chris.

Speaker 5 (02:17:45):
We look forward to talking to you getting good luck
with the book. I hope it crushes it and I
can't wait to read it. Thank you so much.

Speaker 24 (02:17:51):
Yeah, good Yeah, thank you, Sehan, good talking. You have
great holiday YouTube.

Speaker 5 (02:17:54):
Brother, Thank you appreciate that's Chris Myers. Will come back
and discuss Sports Talk seven ninety. Great stories and I
know he was at all those events, Brian, which is
pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (02:18:03):
We'll come right.

Speaker 13 (02:18:03):
Back back to it.

Speaker 2 (02:18:08):
Bring the Jews, let's go.

Speaker 4 (02:18:10):
The Sean Sounds Very show continues most definitely.

Speaker 2 (02:18:14):
On Sports Talk seven ninety promoting his book That deserves
a wow.

Speaker 5 (02:18:22):
Dude, he got so many amazing stories that I mean,
Muhammad Ali lunging at Tyson Belichick's last game. Chris has
been in the in I don't know if you call
it the right situation, but the unique situation at these
events are a regular basis crazy huh.

Speaker 2 (02:18:39):
Voice?

Speaker 5 (02:18:39):
Tell me that voice isn't you know it is? And
that's why I asked it? You think about it? Forty
years damn near in the business. Yeah, I'm about between
Fox and ESPN. Known him a long time and he's
been a very very good to me and a good friend.
So it's great to ADMN. And that book will tell
some fascinating stories. Great glad he's doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:18:56):
That deserves a wow. Untold stories of legends and champions,
their wins and heartbreaks.

Speaker 6 (02:19:02):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:19:02):
It went on sale last month, so it is available
for purchase. Man, gotta grab that book. Gotta grab it
so that deserves a while. By Chris Myers. All Right,
seven one three two one two five seven ninety. Uh,
let's get to break and get us back on time.
We'll talk some Texans. We'll talk Miss Carol. Pay homage
to her, your favorite Miss Carrol story. Seven one three

(02:19:22):
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Show continued. Get back out to the phone lines. Start

(02:20:28):
with Brandon.

Speaker 1 (02:20:30):
Hello Brandon, Good morning, Brian, Good morning, Sean.

Speaker 2 (02:20:33):
What's happening.

Speaker 1 (02:20:35):
I'm doing okay? Getting away for Christmas fifteen days away?

Speaker 2 (02:20:39):
You ready for Santa?

Speaker 11 (02:20:41):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:20:42):
Me too?

Speaker 1 (02:20:45):
A question for Texans Okay, they will do good.

Speaker 2 (02:20:55):
I hope they do. What did that?

Speaker 6 (02:20:58):
You know, Brandon?

Speaker 2 (02:20:58):
That wasn't a question? Do you have an actual question
and you just want them to do good?

Speaker 1 (02:21:02):
I'm just well I want them, I don't want I
want him to do good.

Speaker 2 (02:21:07):
Good deal? What what do you want for Christmas? Brandon?

Speaker 1 (02:21:12):
Do you number? The like their player?

Speaker 2 (02:21:16):
The who the Rockets?

Speaker 1 (02:21:18):
I'm getting it?

Speaker 2 (02:21:20):
What are you getting? I like their player? Okay, I
like your player?

Speaker 1 (02:21:27):
And what a city player? And the tap player?

Speaker 2 (02:21:32):
Nice like old school? Yes? Nice? Well, a good deal, Brandon,
Thanks for Colin. We'll get We'll talk to you tomorrow,
right buddy, right, thanks Brandon, get a record player?

Speaker 5 (02:21:45):
The vinyl What do you know about vinyls? I got
one at home. I got it, I got it, I
got one. I got some vinyls and I got me
a little uh.

Speaker 2 (02:21:56):
These nuts? Yeah, I got those? Nice. Try you ain't
get me on it? Okay, good try good try, Yeah,
not happening, not today. DVD's leave d yeah what hey?

Speaker 12 (02:22:14):
Do you have a do you have one?

Speaker 2 (02:22:15):
I got from Monda from the cheese or from Monda?

Speaker 11 (02:22:18):
These?

Speaker 2 (02:22:19):
What's wrong with you too? We're talking about vinyls? Okay, yep.
Do you have one of those vinyl you know what?

Speaker 5 (02:22:33):
Yeah, yeah, I do my storage unit. It was my
father's what's another word for record player vinyl? Well that
would be the actual table. Thank you and good night
about damn time. If you went old school and you
hit it normally say I don't know record player with
the vinyl on it? Yeah, there you go. What are

(02:22:53):
you laughing at? Triple He tried to go back to
back DZA. That's all this and we got to get trying.

Speaker 13 (02:22:58):
To get.

Speaker 2 (02:23:00):
Whoa whoa? What what pose it? You know, like come
from the rear? Pause?

Speaker 5 (02:23:05):
It twice happened to you, man, what the world is
wrong with you? In tears man and have a Brandon said,
I want the Texas to win. Is Alway said you
have a question. Well that's not a quest, that's the statement.

Speaker 2 (02:23:20):
He's gonna get himself little turntable and some vinyl like it. Yeah,
the day off Brando Yeah, yeah, d J Brando Dog Yeah,
DJ d Dog Yeah yeah, yeah there it is, talk
o g q O, g Q welcome.

Speaker 13 (02:23:38):
In what's going all at?

Speaker 16 (02:23:43):
Another name for the record player from the DJs was
the Wheels of Steel.

Speaker 2 (02:23:50):
I like that the wheels of steel.

Speaker 16 (02:23:52):
I like it when you when you have to have
the DJ go from one side to them. They used
to those the wheels are still.

Speaker 2 (02:24:02):
I like it. And you and you used to spend
some records there, bud oh.

Speaker 16 (02:24:08):
Yes, sir, yes, sir for a long time dj Q
in the house.

Speaker 2 (02:24:13):
I like, I like it.

Speaker 6 (02:24:18):
But I had to call and pay my homage to Ms. Carroll.

Speaker 16 (02:24:20):
Man, I got a couple of moments. I'm gonna share
both of y'all, don't mind. I remember once Sean when
she said, Sean, I can't wait to see your good
looking self and just give you the biggest hug. And
I mean you can see it was heartfelt. Man. She
really meant that.

Speaker 7 (02:24:37):
Man.

Speaker 16 (02:24:37):
I don't know she ever got to see you or not, man,
but but uh, she she felt that and she meant it.
My other, yeah, my other moment, man, was when uh,
I think she was talking to you, Brian and and
you as you asked about the use of teens and
she said, well, I like the rockets and I cheered

(02:24:58):
for the kickens, but I love my astro.

Speaker 2 (02:25:03):
There was no doubt, man, she loved loved her astros. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:25:08):
So yes, So.

Speaker 16 (02:25:11):
That was my two moments man, I had to call in.
I'm a little heavy like my man this because I'm
a little heavy hearted too, man, but uh, I had
to call in and you know, just recon you know,
remember those couple of.

Speaker 2 (02:25:25):
Monitors right right, no doubt. We appreciate OGQ. Good hearing
from you, man, Yeah, thanks you. I appreciate you, man,
Thank you so much.

Speaker 9 (02:25:34):
It is.

Speaker 2 (02:25:36):
Very easy to be heavy hearted with miss Carrol right now. Sucks, man,
that sucks. Start a big ja, big j what you
got man.

Speaker 12 (02:25:44):
Good morning fellas.

Speaker 17 (02:25:45):
Man.

Speaker 21 (02:25:45):
I just had to call once again. Thoughts and prayers
to missus Carroll's family. She was a great person, loved
them Stros and like you said, Sean, she's gonna be
up there in heaven rooting on them Stros for us
this season. And also, man, what a great another great interview,
great guests, Chris Myers.

Speaker 12 (02:26:02):
That deserves a wow.

Speaker 21 (02:26:04):
Like that was the catchphrase in the nineties that all
us kids were watching Sports Center in the morning and
eating our cheerios, and you know, all those guys had
their catch phrases, and to hear him talk about that stuff,
it was just a It was just a great interview.

Speaker 12 (02:26:20):
So I really want to thank you guys for putting
that stuff on the listeners love it.

Speaker 7 (02:26:23):
I know I do.

Speaker 12 (02:26:24):
So it brings back so many memories.

Speaker 2 (02:26:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 12 (02:26:26):
And that uh yeah, that tweet I sent out this morning,
you know, I was. I was listening to missus Big Jay.

Speaker 21 (02:26:34):
She was giving me a laundry list of things to
do today and blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 12 (02:26:38):
And I was sitting there on my phone and she's like,
are you listening to me? And I said, no, I'm
trying to figure out what we can get for Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 2 (02:26:46):
Yeah, And you put a good one in there. Man,
It's a tempting one, dude.

Speaker 12 (02:26:50):
There's a lot of there's a lot of prospects out there,
you know. And she's like, are you.

Speaker 2 (02:26:54):
Gonna write all this stuff now?

Speaker 12 (02:26:55):
No, I'm trying to figure out what we can get
for Tucker if we lose pregnant.

Speaker 2 (02:27:00):
Ask you this, if I told you that I don't
believe that Tucker or Bregman will be on this roster
in spring training, what would you what would you say?

Speaker 21 (02:27:10):
Well, Sean, I've been an Astros fan since you know,
I can remember, you know, since eighty six, So I've
been through all the tough years. So you know, I'm
a realist. I mean, it's heartbreaking, but you know, it's
the life of a Houston Astros fan. In my opinion,
it's just the.

Speaker 2 (02:27:28):
Way the way things are.

Speaker 21 (02:27:30):
We had a great run of draft picks, we built
a team, built an organization.

Speaker 12 (02:27:36):
It's it's been wonderful. I mean, it's frustrating and you
don't want to see it.

Speaker 21 (02:27:40):
But you know, if the owner is not going to
spend the money and we're just not in that market
to to do that stuff, it is what it is.
And you know, you pray that you can get something
good for for Tucker and maybe Fromber. You know, it's
to me, you're not going to get that much great
stuff because you know, Tucker's coming off.

Speaker 12 (02:28:01):
An injury and Framber didn't have the greatest showing.

Speaker 2 (02:28:04):
So yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:28:06):
Okay, So with with Bregman and Tucker, I'm gonna ask again,
I'm gonna plant I'm gonna I'm gonna plant it in
your head.

Speaker 6 (02:28:13):
Yes you do.

Speaker 5 (02:28:14):
Will will both of them, one of them or none
of them be here for spring training? Tucker or Bregman.

Speaker 21 (02:28:21):
I think Tucker will be here. I know you guys,
I know, you guys, I think that's smoking mirrors.

Speaker 2 (02:28:28):
I mean, I don't know, man.

Speaker 21 (02:28:31):
I mean, you're gonna you're gonna lose a lot of
the fan base, and you know it's gonna be frustrating.
But I think Tucker will be there. I think Bregman's gone.
I think, uh, we'll see how.

Speaker 12 (02:28:41):
The season goes.

Speaker 21 (02:28:43):
And then if the season is not going as we planned,
hopefully Tucker's got some m v P like numbers and
as painful as other organizations do it, We're gonna see
a trade and then hopefully we can gain more uh
prospects and talent for him at that time.

Speaker 12 (02:29:02):
But I think Tucker will be there. I think Framber
could be gone.

Speaker 21 (02:29:04):
I would see Framber and Bregman being gone, and that's
keeping Tucker.

Speaker 2 (02:29:09):
Do you think I'm wrong for planting that in your head?

Speaker 11 (02:29:12):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:29:13):
No, absolutely not.

Speaker 5 (02:29:14):
Okay, we'll do me one favor. Plant these nuts on
your forehead while we.

Speaker 2 (02:29:17):
Go bright.

Speaker 13 (02:29:22):
Try to got his crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:29:35):
Oh, he's gonna love that we did. He tries, he
gets it. We go back and forth. That couldn't resist, man,
Did you know what was coming?

Speaker 7 (02:29:42):
No?

Speaker 13 (02:29:42):
I had no idea.

Speaker 2 (02:29:43):
You know the best part about that whole thing Tripoli is.
Shaun's like in this, you know, pretty in depth conversation
with Jay and then he he motions to me and
he says, watch the mouse watched this, but no all.

Speaker 5 (02:29:55):
The question was serious. At the end, I thought, you
know what, let me use this plant to my advantage
and then roll out b J, Mom, mom, he said,
trying to sail all the things he said. I'm trying
to get a trade ready for him.

Speaker 2 (02:30:09):
Oh big J. We love you, man, oh man. He's
right now thinking I'm gonna get that s ob someday.
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Good morning.

Speaker 25 (02:32:32):
What's going on, gentlemen, Hey listen, I think uh man,
I think Brandon was trying to tell you all that
he was going to.

Speaker 3 (02:32:39):
Get two turntables at a microphone for Christmas.

Speaker 2 (02:32:41):
That's what That's what I was taking out of it. Yeah,
and he's a big karaoke guy. You know, maybe maybe
he's getting karaoke machine.

Speaker 25 (02:32:50):
Listen, at the last two times I've called you, guys,
there's been.

Speaker 2 (02:32:52):
An awful lot of talks about CDs and whatever else
right before I get on the line. So I gotta
appreciate that. I'll always have me last week. Yeah, do
you guys really do you think?

Speaker 25 (02:33:06):
Listen, y'all pull the CD comments from Honda and throw
them all out there. It's it's it always has me
cracking up. But listen, I was gonna.

Speaker 2 (02:33:15):
Twelve twelve, yeah, and that'll never change. Yeah, yeah, no,
I listen.

Speaker 25 (02:33:20):
I just hearned forty I have four children, and the
moment I stopped back in like I'm twelve, my kids
are gonna hat and I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (02:33:27):
I don't think they look at me as a dad.

Speaker 23 (02:33:29):
I think they look at me.

Speaker 2 (02:33:30):
As a friend.

Speaker 25 (02:33:33):
But so, so, I was gonna talk about this, this
dang Juan Soto deal, and I wanted to wanted to
know what you guys thought that how that would help
or hurt our opportunities even a market for Bregman. But
I want to pivot with your last question about do
I do you do you think, uh Tucker and Bregman

(02:33:54):
will either one of them be on spring train. And
here's here's my thoughts on that, and I want to
see you is I think if you see Bregman that
there's a good chance we will have both, because why
spend the money on one If you're not going to
solidify and keep the team hold and give Tucker some

(02:34:14):
kind of deal next year, Why would you do either
one of them if you're not gonna do both.

Speaker 13 (02:34:19):
Number one.

Speaker 25 (02:34:20):
Number two is no, I do not think we will
see either one of them. But that's because, man, in
my opinion, Yes, I'm a Homer, Yes I'm a fan.
I love the Asters, but I also am a realist
and I want this team to continue to do well.

Speaker 3 (02:34:37):
And I think you're gonna get a lot more for
Tucker now.

Speaker 25 (02:34:40):
As much as I hate to see him going anybody else,
but he can take a streaky ass somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (02:34:46):
As much as I would like to see him.

Speaker 14 (02:34:50):
Stay in Houston, get what you can.

Speaker 25 (02:34:52):
Now instead of it being a midyear rental deal, and
then package tramp up in there too, and let's get
some security in the future of this team.

Speaker 2 (02:35:00):
You go thank you appreciate it. We'll discuss that for
more tomorrow. Do you think both are gone before spring training?
A good question. I think Bregman's gone. Is Tucker on
the roster in twenty twenty six, twenty six? Now will
they be? Will he be traded in twenty twenty five
or twenty twenty four? I think one of those years. Yeah, Okay,

(02:35:20):
I think we're gonna there'll be more information to come
out today because there those winter meetings are starting to
kick off.

Speaker 5 (02:35:25):
These are the things we want, but just the things
that are real, that they're real, they're talking about them,
they're real. There's there's there's some mileage.

Speaker 2 (02:35:32):
On this stuff. There really is. There's definitely uh and
we'll talk about to the fire.

Speaker 5 (02:35:36):
For There's a lot of Texans talk as well tomorrow
and obviously a ton of baseball talking depending on what
happens this week, which could be epic one way or
the other.

Speaker 2 (02:35:44):
Yep, there's no doubt that is Sean Salisbury. Tripley is
our producer.

Speaker 12 (02:35:47):
I on Brian Lee.

Speaker 2 (02:35:48):
But thank you for listening to The Sean Salisbury Show.
We're back tomorrow morning at six am. Don't go anywhere
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Speaker 8 (02:36:00):
M