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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salisbury.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc true longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Dan matthewscu. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Here is Hammerson down the left field line and that
ball is gone. A three run home run into the
Lantry's Crawford boxes for a Jose Ramirez who goes deep
for the fifteenth time this year. And the Guardians lead
Ford to nothing, the two to one, and Trammell hits
it in the air pretty deep to left, pawn.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
His back looking up see Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Taylor.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Trammell's first sit of the season is a three run
homer into the Lantryes Crawford boxes. It's four to three,
Cleveland to two, and that's hammered deep to let fails.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
It goodbye off the foul pole.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Asak Paradis ties it at four, his nineteenth of the year.
Here's the two and that is lined and over the
head of Parada Is just over his glove and down
the left field line. Martinez scores tearing around third, now
Nayler and coming home. Here's a relay throw to the
plate by short not nearly in time. It's a two
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run double for Brian Rocchio and the Guardians have a
six to four lead. It looked like Parades came close
to catching that on the leap but just did elude him.
Pitch on the way and Carratini hits it well the right,
going back. Jones at the wall looking up Selta.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Victor.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Carraccini goes deep for the night time this year, and
it's six to five Cleveland. The kick in the one
zero Hi Boucher right side to his left stemen. He's
got it, throws to first in time, and that is
the ballgame the Cleveland Guardians in their ten game taking
the opener of this three game series from the Astros
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seven to five.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
Robert Ford laying it out for you hot last night
at Dyke and Parker sounded and with that we say
away we go and good morning here on the John
Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety as the Stros return
home from the road trip where they went to Colorado
and La taking care of business there, but then get
back and no Jake Myers in the lineup, No Jeremy
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Pania in the lineup. Trying to think of anybody else,
I mean, Christopher Walker, no Christian Walker in the lineup.
Of course, and congratulations he and his wife.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
They are expecting.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
I haven't heard any word if the newest edition has
arrived yet, but paternity list for Christian Walker. And then
noticed I didn't even mention Jordan Alvarez because well, he's
out approaching a little bit closer to three months.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Of no yord on at that point.
Speaker 8 (02:58):
So yeah, shorthanded a little bit just to say, whenever
I see that somebody, I always laugh, Hey, uh, that
Christian Walker's out to paternity leave or paternity It's like
it's on the pttorney list.
Speaker 9 (03:10):
When did he have a baby?
Speaker 7 (03:12):
You know, it's the first thing you got to with
the congratulations. It's a modern incredible it's a modern medical miracle.
Well there's actually some out there that think it does happen.
Well we'll, we'll, we'll, We'll leave that for them, but yeah,
congrats to him. That's that's the life changing moments, and
good on them, and uh, it's it's been a good
what a couple of weeks. I mean he started to
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get rolling and then you know, the priorities and perspective,
especially what's going on and we've seen what's happened in Texas.
I'm sure that it's an emotional time for him to
as well. The they you know, beat by good team
and the Ramior's the balls flying on the ballpark last
night for both teams and uh, you're gonna lose sixty plus. Dad,
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I say it all the time, and that's one of now.
The thing now between now, not only All Star, but
the rest of the time is just not get into
long skids. You're you're talking about short handed. You were
short handed, then you're short handed by paternity and by
just days off as well for some getting the rest
they need, hung in there, you know, tied it back up,
and then in the late innings you know, long ball
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and just and then when clause comes in. Dude, I'm
sitting here watching last night, my dumbass that late even
though it was still you know, you're only a swing
or two away with a base runner, right is Dude,
he threw one hundred mile an hour cutter. I mean,
I know that sounds like Sean they're doing it all
they're not doing it all the time. But the guy
pumps at one hundred hundred and one. But he had
a cutter at a hundie with movement, Yes, at a Hundie.
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I mean, you know, it's just just it's to me,
it's baffling how hell you could do it. But you know,
you run into it that he's our he's there hater
when he comes into game, you expect it to be
done right. You've got like nineteen saves this year. But yeah, yeah,
oh it is Yeah, was pushing twenty somewhere in that range.
So it's just to me it you know, you're they've
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been on a good run. Okay, you lost last night.
Speaker 8 (05:03):
To me, I always want to see how they respond
the next day after winning streak, played great baseball as
hot as anybody come in here. A lot of changes
yesterday getting guys in and now to settle in. You know,
the the wasn't a dominant, obviously pitching performance, and they
hung in there and they got beat And Cleveland has
always been a scrapping, grinding team. And I think Ramirez
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is the most underpaid, under nationally appreciated baseball player in
the in the major leagues.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
I do. I think he's phenomenal.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
And you know, you get it going and then you respond,
and then they come back and home and then they
get the ninth inning. Uh, you know, a little bit
of a two run cushion with the top of the
ninth home run, and then you've got to do something special.
And then three ground balls a second base from with
close on the mount, and you know, fortunate because most
people don't put the bat on the ball with him
three times in a row, even though it were slow
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rollers and they put them away.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
But it's going to happen.
Speaker 8 (05:58):
I'm always now today, what happens, how's the lineup, what's
it look like?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
How do you come back?
Speaker 8 (06:03):
What you know, pitching wise, come back out and say, okay,
our losing streak stops at one.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
That's that's how I am.
Speaker 8 (06:09):
But it was just you know, and watching it, it
was just kind of you know, it's a back and
forth and Cleveland always has some grind and they've got
good players, and with the ball flying out of the park,
you just couldn't you. Those are the games we're talking about, Dan,
When you run into a team that you expect pitching
to bail you out the entire time, right, which they
have a lot of times this year. The batcheler's starting
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to awaken, it appears, but you see what happens. You
can score four, you can score five, but once in
a while your pitching staff's going to give up more
and not be able to keep the ball in the ballpark.
Then how do you respond, not only in that game
and to get back in it and then just couldn't
close it out? And now you look forward to Tuesday
and the rest of the All Star Break what you
can't do. Don't breathe a sigh. And I'm not saying
they will, but it's easy for all of us. It's
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like it's like when you come to work here or
when you go to work at your office. So you
go to there's a there's this tendency, and it even
happens in pro sports. I know when we knew a
bye week was coming now, we were really good. Like
Andy Danny Green was good going into her coming out.
I can't remember what was going into her coming out
of a bye week. We were pretty good, right, But
it's easy to let your mind wander and get to
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the point where even if you've been in at fifteen
years or you've been in at fifteen minutes, to get
your mind right, say, oh, all Star breaks coming. You know,
it's like when you get ready for vacation a week
before or three days on it.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Well, on a long.
Speaker 8 (07:25):
Weekend, there's that Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Well, really we're off
on Friday, but some treat like, well I'm off on Thursdays.
You know you're not off on Thursday, but your mind
is that at least that sets it.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
And it can happen in sports as well.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Oh weird they called out sick, Yeah, what a shaker happens?
Speaker 5 (07:43):
What a shocker?
Speaker 8 (07:43):
Or they came in and work was done at ten
am and it really did get four or five days.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
So hate that for you, right for a vacation, right
right right.
Speaker 8 (07:51):
So you some it gets to the point where it's
almost human nature and you've got to fight against it
to check out two days before you're supposed to check out.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 8 (08:00):
So if you're the coming off a really good road trip,
you swept the number of the best team in baseball,
and now into a Detroit may have an argument. But
and now here you are, you don't want to get
locked into okay that these are just kind of throwaway
games you can't get you're at home.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
You don't want it.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
Just as quickly as you felt good about it, just
as quickly feel poor about it. Heading in the Altuari
because I'm a feel good guy when it comes to that.
I like the feeling of oh man, we won four
or six heading into it as well, right to where
you can go into it saying now that's the way
we play. So it's a feel good. So you're not
sitting there, you're O for seventeen and you're going to
the Ulster wik. That's not a fun all star break
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because in the grind and you don't even get to
enjoy your family for three or four days, so you
got to You do have to guard. I'm not saying
the Astros haven't because grit and the way they hang
in there is.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Is a good thing.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
But it is easy twenty five years old, forty years old,
sixty years old, or fifteen years old to oh my
vacation's coming. It's the substitute teacher feel all. Even though
it's a Wednesday in class, we up when's the last
time a sub came into class and you felt like
it was a regular work day at school. Never you're
either watching a video or you're like, well, what's she gonna?
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It's one day I don't have to do anything, so
you've kind of checked out, don't don't talk to me
like that, right right, I don't know, don't.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 8 (09:17):
So you do have to guard against that going into
this and stay stay laser focused. Is if this is
the last five or six games of the season, how
would you treat it?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Right?
Speaker 8 (09:29):
And you're in a you're you're in a battle, so
I and they won't, but you do have to guard
against that. It's it's in and uh and make sure,
which means today you go out and you you put
your foot down, take care of your business.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Intonight's game.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
So now, okay, now we got a chance to go
back and win a series again, so it'll be important. Listen,
Cleveland's formidable, and they've got good pitching, and and uh,
you didn't get your stellar performance yesterday by your own
team on the mound. And and uh, when you give
up that many runs, you're not gonna the way they've
inconsistently swung it over the season. They that that's a
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grind for them right now. And then with all the
different names in the lineup.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Overall, health is my larger concern because it should be
knock on wood here. I'm not advocating for this team
to lose five of six or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Anything far from it.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
But I'm far less concerned with the results in these
last few games before the All Star Break as opposed to, man,
just get the Sunday and then get out of there,
hopefully as healthy as possible.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
Yeah, but you know what's crazy to me, We're saying
this like it's a football or rugby game. I know
what you're saying, but man, if I got to I mean,
and I know we're all even a little bit gun
shy about the injuries. A second somebody goes down well
automatically in this town. Think we'll see in a year.
I mean, it's hard not to feel that way. I
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get it, and it happened again yesterday. But as the
show goes along, Yeah, I'll be honest with you, I
ain't rest in anybody between now and the All Star
Break unless they're hurt or injured. I ain't rest anybody.
They got it yesterday. I do not rest them. You
get the whole All Star break, because like when people say,
well you can sleep when you're dead, you get the
whole All Star break. You get you you'll rest then
I need al two bay swinging, but I want him
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feeling good. Going in if he can get him back.
I don't know how long Christian Walker. When he is
he back in, will he'll be back? I don't know.
It's basically just whenever. Okay, So it's a day to
day thing. So hopefully I'm playing my guys. I want praise,
I need him in the lineup, but I want to win.
I don't want all of a sudden I have this,
and then if Seattle were to go on a run
in five games and you went through your losing streak
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now to preserve yourself, and now they've closed it to
three games or two game, I don't want that. And
that's why I'm saying that guard against and you are
exactly right. But if the mentality is.
Speaker 9 (11:45):
Play it safe, I got to rest alt two by
three more days.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
He's got he got plenty of time. He's not in
the All Star Game. He got plenty of time to rest.
And it's baseball, no no offense. Nobody's running you over
and hit you in the side of the head at
third base with a free runner while you're trying to
feel the ground ball. Now, I know baseball can have
its moments getting hit by a pitch and slide and
I'm not saying that. My point is is I got
to guard against being a little lackadaisical and casual.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Casual is the word I use. It's not lazy.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
These guys aren't lazy, but it's easy to get casual
going in saying, well, let's put this guy in.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Hey, he's fine, but man, it's been a long first season.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
They played eighty some ninety games or whatever, pushing it
right night right, going in that ninety games, going into
the game, I think, so, I know, I see that's
what if other people are doing. If I need rest,
I'll give him rest. And I'd like to. You know,
you like to get some good innings out of your
starting pitching, so you can even go into the All
Star break with your vulpit even getting more rest and
coming out fresh as could be. But I rest in
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my two I ain't rest in the players that are healthy.
I'm going to win these next five. I want to
go win them all. Not at the expense of having
a guy throw one hundred and thirty pitches, but I'm
going to win them.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
This is not this is a preseason. They all count.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
And if you lose five and they win five, and
they're capable going on five?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
What's that make you? From seven eight games and now
to two games?
Speaker 8 (13:02):
Now the pressure builds in the second half again, and
you've got to fight to get that confidence going back
in a second. I'm just, for me, the biggest mistake
they could make, aside from you know, somebody putting somebody
at harm's way, is deciding these next five games are
for rest. Hell no, you want to go in feeling
good and you don't want to relinquish a lead that
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you've worked your ass off to get because well, you
know they're pretty tired.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
No offense.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
If you're an everyday player and you're going to plate
four times a day and you're tired and need seven
days off in baseball, I'm a saying baseball is not
a hard sport. But if you're a second baseman or
a center fielder, and Cam Smith doesn't need time off,
he's a kid. Not saying he wants it. I'm just
saying our overall thought, I don't need him. Well, let's
get him some rest. So he's young, he's in his
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early twenties, those legs are just fine. Thanks, I need
him in there, and plus he's going good. Keep him
in there.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
This easiest thing.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
It's easier to let this slide and settle and say,
you know what, I'm gonna rest all my guys. That's
what the All Star Breaks for, and for those that
are going to play in it, I'm assuming pain he's
not playing correct. I think he'll be there, but he's
not gonna get yesterday. Yeah, okay, and they need a hundred.
Brown's gonna get an inning maybe right, get it starting
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exactly so, and he may ge two.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Okay, fine, and then who am I leaving out? Oh?
Speaker 8 (14:24):
And he is, well, if he pitches, it'll be at
the end of the game or he's closing it out
because he's the only closer I believe on the roster
when I think he's going to be the only If not,
he'll be eighth any night at the end and get
his and get twelve pitches in. Okay, fine, But I'm
gonna tell you what's easier to do. What's easier to
do is to casual your way into the All Star Break.
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What's harder to do is go say we're winning five
or six and we're we're choking you out when we
come back. You didn't gain any ground the last six
games because we're cut and it's human nature. I would
just kick the Dodgers ass. They didn't play their best
baseball yesterday. So for me, I'm coaching my ass off
off and managing my ass off and play my mass
off and my guys are starting as if we're down
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a game, it's or it's one one and we got
five game series. And that's how I'm playing it, because
I just the All Star break is to get your
legs under and be with your family and no offense.
The cam smissed it. The ball ain't heavy and it
ain't that hard, and I need you. If you're banged
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up and you're exhausted, I get it for a day.
But if not, I got to have you grinding, like
the playoffs matter. And you know what a lack in
some way, somehow, some team that got cold during an
All Star like two weeks going into All Star Break
is going to screw themselves over in the second half.
I'm just telling you it does. Oh, these don't matter.
You got to be ready to play in September. Oh really,
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two years ago, what was it when they were the
final day of the season, what was it they won
in a tiebreaker? The year the Rangers won World Series
on the last day of the year of the season.
So to me, you got to be more dialed in
these last five games because it's easy to start to
call it so to have a two Martine lunch because well,
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I'm going on vacation in three days. Yeah, they can't
do that. They've got it. They've got to dial in.
So I take this more serious. But yes, stang healthy
would be that. But listen, if I'm playing hard, the
guy slides into second, gets his hand stepped on, has
to miss a day or two happens.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
I hope not for months, right, it happens. But I
ain't not playing.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
Him because I'm worried that somebody's going to hit him
with the fastball in a ribcage and he's going to
be out a month.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
I'm not doing that.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
I'm going to I'm playing to win, and I'm playing
as if this five games is means everything to us,
short of at the expense of throwing a pitcher that's
worn out and now you risk arm injury. I'm going
I'm going all in. These matter, they absolutely matter, and
you got a chance to gain even more ground or
extend your lead. Should I say on the team behind you,
because they're not exactly playing chopped liver teams these next
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five or six games.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
Uh, Seattle are not because they're going to start up
a three game series in the Bronx against the Yankeys,
and then they go to Detroit to close out the
first half.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Six games, perfect straight days, perfect game, perfect time to
get three more games in your side. Yeah, so I'm
taking it serious, and my guys are playing All Star
breaks for.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Rest someone three two and two, five, seven ninety the
number to get in this morning if you want to
jump in. But coming up about the Astros, they've improved
on this part, but there's still work to do. And
another example of that reared it said yesterday. We'll talk
about it here. It is Sean Salisbury show Sports Talk
seven ninety on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Let the celebration start more. Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Ninety yesterday we get the lineup. It comes out and
you've got six through nine, a combination of Cooper Hummel,
Taylor Trammel, Zach Short and Kennedy Corona. I mean, nice
enough story makes his major league debut. Families there all
of that walks his very first played appearance nice enough.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Good thing is last name is not Medello? Well yeah
there or Pacifica. There's a lot of good, all of them,
all of them. Huge fan of every single one of them,
trust me on that.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
So before the game though, this is my point of contention,
Astros manager Joe Espotta asked about Jake Myers, not the lineup.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Hey, skip, what's wrong with them?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
You know?
Speaker 7 (18:24):
Is everything okay? Feeling better but resting today? These are
things that again, for all of the kudos we've given
to the Astros for the improvements that they've made in
terms of their reporting and transparency when it comes to injuries.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
This just drives me.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Up the wall.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
Okay, so what do you want him to say? He's
day to day, he's day to day.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Well he's not. He's not in there today. We'll see
how it feels tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
Well what's the okay? Is it just semantics? Because I
get and I did the onely the reason I'm asking.
I'm just trying to be the nation to get the
I'm looking for answers so we can kind of pounce
on it to see what's right and what's wrong. Why
we feel this way? I know why we feel this
way the injury history report talk.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
I get it, But what did he say, feels better
but going to rest him today? Okay, So what is
the difference in saying feels better rest him today?
Speaker 10 (19:20):
To me?
Speaker 8 (19:20):
I took that it's the day to day thing, you
need a little rest. Well, we'll revisit it tomorrow. You
want him to I mean, it's so it's semantics. You
want him say he's a day to day thing. We'll see,
we'll check in with him tomorrow. What is it just
you need the verbiage to because on the other side,
you just told me you don't want anybody hurt, so
you're willing to rest these guys going into the All
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Star break, he rested a guy. But because semantics didn't
tell everybody, here's what, he's out tomorrow. Because if he
says he'll be back tomorrow and he's not back tomorrow,
you know we're gonna say misleading us again on an injury.
So it's like an open ended question. This is an
open ended answer. It's like, hey man, he needed rest today,
basically we'll see tomorrow. Because you create an unreal expectation
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at that point, because they've done this with almost every
single injury that fits into this category. Did we necessarily
think that Jeremy Pania was going to be on the IL?
Speaker 5 (20:13):
No, did we even necessarily think.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
That Jordam was going to be on the IL until
he finally was a couple of days later, and now
we haven't seen him in two and a half months.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
Well, I told you last week about Penia or what
it happened we got back on here.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
I said.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
That rib cage and torque with people. It'll be a
couple of days. It wasn't going to be ten days.
It wasn't going to be five days. It's a friggin
fracture in a rib cage. Rib cage and don't want
back early? When do you think he's playing? Oh, he's
advanced and getting better, all right, So did you have
expectations when they said he's getting better and getting closer?
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When when Dana has talked about you could tell in
the voice in his verbiage, who do you feel more
confident about getting back quicker on Ourpania?
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (20:59):
Oh, pain in close right, it is very But then
you've got to work on the field, man. I gotta
be out there, okay.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
So my point is.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
Is it sometimes feel a little misleading, not that they're
intentionally doing it, but you get my point. As I've
always said, you can go to any organization. Fans and
media will bitch about the injury talk in every city,
in every sport at some point, and I get it.
I have we not talked about the frustration over the
Renelle Blanco situation. Of course we have. It's okay, they're
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we're not entitled to anything. We are hopeful that we'll
get a little more closer injury information. But remember, you
don't want to be a doctor on here, and neither
do I and I'm neither is Dana Brown. But I
get it because you've been stung by the past. I
would say, shift your narrative. When somebody gets hurt and
they're put on the eel, I would say, it's a week.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Give me.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
I know it's more than one week, and if they
get back sooner, your mindset and our mindset will be different.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I've gone in I'm not.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
I don't care what is said about ord On Alvarez
between now. If jord On Alvarez swings a bat in
a game between now and July the end of July,
by the time training camp opens, then you want to
crawl ten miles over broken glass and do whatever it
is you do on your own after you've crawled over
broken glass, because guess what if that's the bonus they need.
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Not now if you're like, he's going to play a
week after the Ulstar Brick. If he does, awesome. If
he doesn't, you're pissed, and so am I. It's our expectations,
and I know we want the exact answer. One thing
that people got to get into haven't been around it,
and I know you got it's never happening. You are
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never going to have a general manager, a coach, a manager,
a doctor come out and say, just it's the same thing.
When's the last time a doctor if somebody has surgery,
When Xavier had surgery, what's what's the doctor's report?
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Surgery?
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Was the success rehab in Indiana? They want to know
in Burdon's come back, Well, he's he's out for the year. Great,
So now their expectations. Lord, now you're worried about twenty
twenty six, twenty twenty seven, And I just I get
what you're saying, but semantics to me, Jake Myers took it.
If he's if he's healthy enough, put his ass in
the lineup today. Agreed, let's go tired, whatever the reason.
(23:17):
But you know, Dan, that that's just gonna be the
way semantics are going to drive you crazy.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Feels better? Is the new discomfort for me?
Speaker 7 (23:25):
I mean, it's just it is because like I, you know, point,
it's just a shit.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
It's a lateral move on the on the verbage. That's
all it is, right.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
It's a just feel like in the Erector set of
words that you put together. There's so many disconnects at
all times when it comes to this, right and because in.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
My mind, he's going on the ail, that's the way
I look at it now, and he great, see catching
on with that. If he doesn't, what do you call
that a little bonus? It is all it is is
semantics filling our emotions and wanted to so we get it.
But if they say he'll be back tomorrow and he's not,
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what's your first thought?
Speaker 5 (24:05):
I would misdiagnosed it.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
Again, Well, that could be for some right, but it
is also too Okay, have you spoken with people who
you believe are qualified to make that judgment, because if
you have, then okay, I'll listen to you on it.
But I don't believe it's just a hope or something
like that. Then no, I don't believe there's ever a
guy that's been put on IL ever that a doctor
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didn't say you can't play them for ten days. I
don't believe doctors you can play them and then they
say unless they're you know, moves and all that. For
the most part, I guess never and always are two
tough words to use in a.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
Life in sports, because things happen. But if they put
on IL, a doctor has told me not ready to play,
and they've made that decision to protect him from himself
as well. So I'm just I'm trying to get out
of the semantics business because they'll drive you crazy and
it will. So for that, I just take his rest now.
If he needs rest three days in a row, then
you you can rest. Is your ass as shirt. He
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ain't playing before the All Star break and whatever for whatever.
If he's out there today, then it was then worrying
was we were borrowing trouble. So when it comes to
the injury thing, all I'm doing is like an NFL
coach in a conscious I'm coaching the guys that are
in uniform. The rest of it. I'm not in the
doctor business. I'll let them figure it out. And I'm
obviously not in to make you feel good business with
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my verbiage. But the truth is lower your expectations did
when it comes to injuries. And just hope that these
guys you just name those four guys to bat the
back of the lineup, those guys guys liked them in
the back of the lineup have at times carried the
hitting the batting order at times this year, So I'm
okay with it.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
And what's tremeel do HiT's a three three run job yesterday?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Right?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Yeah, exactly?
Speaker 8 (25:46):
It was a three runner, so no doubt, right, So listen, man,
get Pain and Jordan and Myers out of your head.
Hopefully Myers is back ready to roll. But the other
two you're not seeing us before the All Star break,
and if you're lucky, you'll see them in July.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
I just expect the worst and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
But hope is not a strategy.
Speaker 8 (26:09):
Would hopeful Would you rather hope for the best and
prepare for the worst, or would you rather prepare for
the best and then when the best doesn't hit? Now
you're knocked to your knees first, right, the worst first,
every time agreed, prepare for that, and everything else is
a bonus when they're in the lineup. Hell, we got
to make sure yourdon's Jordan when he gets back in,
because he wasn't Jordon when he was in and that
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may have something to do with the injury. So that
led him to all this pushing ninety days. It'll it'll
be ninety days before you even stiff it. So it's
I'm not bothered by it. I'm rooting and coaching for
the guys that are actually playing and the other guys
that aren't. Hopefully they'll get healthy and be a bonus,
whether it's Javier and Garcia to Jordon and Pina need him, Yeah,
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can you survive without him? I think they've pretty much
proven that they can, at least on the short term.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
I love how you went tom Izzo on us right there. Yeah,
I'm gonna worry about the.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Guys like guts I'm coaching in this book, right like
when they get a hold out, you know, so we
hold out camp. I'm not worried about the guys sitting
at home eating cheetos. I'm coaching the dudes that are here.
No Cheetos are especially flaving hots enhance why I'm only
coaching the guys that are here because I don't want
to get into the cheeto mentality that we're all too casual.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
Right, So there you go? How agree would that be? Hey, coach,
what's the issue with your point guard?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Cheeto? Yeah? Eating too many of them? That's it right?
So but I am.
Speaker 8 (27:32):
I'm managing the dudes that are here, and Joe Spot
has done one hell of a job of that this year.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Now, No, no no argument for me on that. That
is something that cannot be debated of the Astros being
nineteen games above five hundred at this point. But are
you surprised necessarily by how the Astros have performed at
this point? I would say if you are, you're not
paying attention. We'll discuss here. It is the Sean Salisbury Show,
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the six o'clock hour is brought to you by one
eight hundred car Cash. You're raird it's head about the
injury reply, it'll it'll, it'll show up every once in
a while. Wave to the crowd. Maybe keep it moving,
maybe stick around. I don't know, it's a Tuesday. You know,
there's still a long way to go in this week.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
It really is so hey, but we're not eating cheetos
or mailing it in we got We're not.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
We're not doing that. No cheetle on the fingers this morning.
So we're good on that. But the Astros, though, last night,
did not put together a good enough offensive performance. Five
hits in the seven to five loss run We've seen
that movie, sure, but three home runs I'll take it.
Look Dan, see the lining. It's silver It is the
(28:43):
ball left the ballpark with a should I say a
an Oakland A's type. I'm kidding, but you know, okally
where some of the guys are doing. You're like, man,
who's his cat?
Speaker 8 (28:53):
And then he you know, and you're getting, oh, we're
gonna play Trammel today and he's gonna hit a three
run jobs.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
So yeah, man, it's okay. Silver lining to see how
kinder and gentler am right there just on a loss.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
That's what boys team that won the uh the National
Minor League title last year.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Yeah, well you're seeing them right now there you go.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
I mean, and they've contributed, right, there's no question let's
not bury the lead though. You said cheat cheetos, right,
and I said, last break, what's the best chip on
the planet. I mean, if you're sitting around, like all around, okay,
there's two lace.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Here's the way. One is, do you eat plain that
you can't? No dip?
Speaker 8 (29:30):
We dip it that. If you're sitting around, you got
a sandwich or does this pend? Does it depend on
the sandwich? For instance, I may with it like a
tuna sandwich.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
The thought of eating tune at six forty in the
morning make you throw up in your mouth. But I
love like tuna sandwich for dinner last night. Yeah, maybe
a little fish. I love tuna sometimes, just a tuna
sandwich with a little thin sliced chaeddar cheese on a wheat.
Bread crushes right, it slaps.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
All right, damp Or you could do like the ones
my dad used to make where you just use one
piece of bread and you called it a foldough.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Right, there you go, l foldo, there you go. I
do that with peanut butter jelly. Put it on there,
folded over and let's go. I go the crustables there
you go. I like crust on my bread. I eat
the hell out fried? What's that uncrustable my breakfast every morning?
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:18):
No, I just eat peanut butter and jel like Nick
Saban with the little debbies, right, yeah, I mean with
the uncrustables. Yeah, I like peanut butter, toast and jelly,
but I like just the folded over peanut butter and
boys and berry jelly.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Let's go with this chip.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Oh I love yeah, so I love jam, blueberry jelly, yeah,
jelly jam, whatever you want to call it, preserve, preserves,
put it on there. I don't care, okay, but I
think like with tuna, to me, it's only two. I
eat the original ruffles with ridges, but the number one
sandwich you had, the number one chip you have to
have with two and suches. Fritos grew up. Fritos and
(30:53):
tuna sandwich go together on the plate. I'm telling you
it is. Maybe it's where I grew up. But Frito's
Dorritos don't oh with a tuna sandwich with everything. But
they could. But let's don't bury my lead here. Just
play a long freedo. So there are certain chips that
I want with certain stuff, and then there's the like
the one of those the scoops, you know, the scoops.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
That's obviously.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
It doesn't matter if you're scooping it and hummus, if
you're scooping it in salsa, if you're scooping it and
ranch dip, if you're scooping it in French onion, A
good much scoop, right, But I also so so is
there is there is there a universal that that chip
is gold kettle cooke, kettle cooked, either jlapeno or salt
(31:37):
and vent. That's not widely Yeah, you and I like it, dude,
Where it's not. I'm talking about a household.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
I love anything that's spicy, like the vinegarl it's a
salt and vinegar like those chips.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Oh yeah, I like. I mean all that, I'm into it.
Speaker 9 (31:51):
I'm talking about the universal thought that you're going to
the cupboard and all you're gonna do is sit on
your couch.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
And eat chips because you're just a chipp day and
maybe and you're not allowed to dip it. Which one
is the non dipping best chip zaps Voodoo?
Speaker 5 (32:07):
That is not a universal choice. I get it.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
You're you're choosing stuff that's that's specialty stuff. You're Chevrolet
you know that's what your foot right, I got you
when you go to the grocery store.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
What are most people?
Speaker 8 (32:23):
I just want to eat chips on the couch because
either you know, you're like you know back over you
see like the girls they're having a tough day because
they're there, and there's high school boy in college and
eat chips with their girlfriend, right, or the dudes are
just I'm beer dude, I'm hungover. Just give me chips.
What what chip is it? And you can't dip it?
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Okay? So why not? What what carries it? Barbecue?
Speaker 8 (32:45):
See, I'm going with lays, the lace cheddar, you know
that the sour crean, sour cream cheddar or whatever it is.
That just to sit around because all that they got
all that stuff on there Fredos with tuna, ham and
cheese sandwiches. But the univer's the one that covers all
of it. The plain ruffles to me, or you can
(33:06):
have them with any sandwich, and I'm a texture guy.
I like to put him on the sandwich. So if
you make a HAMI ham and cheese soundich with mustard,
mayonnaise and little lettuce and tomato, now that to me,
if it's crispy lettuce. It'll give you a really good
crunch too, sure, But then you slap doritos or ruffles
on the sandwch press it down with your hand, and
(33:27):
now you've got your texture with those things. And then
you still keep some of those chips on the side.
But I'm just figuring, because there are certain dips. But
what's a standalone chip that would be universe? What's the
number one selling chip in the country that you wouldn't dip?
Speaker 5 (33:40):
What is it? I'm a ruffles plain guy. You and
Lay's triple E.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
The only problem that Lay's the reason why lays the
original lays you know, the regular ones, the yellow, the
yellowest ones that you know why, Yeah, the yellow bag
I think it was red riding or blue red. Is
a red writing on it that says lays on it.
Here's the problem with those. That's why you can't dip these.
That's why the.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
It's been that the entire time.
Speaker 8 (34:05):
I never knew, right, Here's why you can't dip them.
They're so thin they break inside the dip. Say I
look into this, you're Samanta or you just you just
eat those plane but you get the dorrido or the scoops.
They're strong, so you can dip it deep into that
dog on French onion dip and it won't break.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
And that's it.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
That's important to me.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
See I keep getting either styles of chips or even
top brands, like of course we know that laser is
going to be the top one. It's the most readily
available out there. We get it triplely. How about this,
I asked.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
I said, what's the widely known you know, the universal
one that people would go into heaven shoes funions. The
hell is wrong with you? You dabbed all the specialty things. Yeah, Sean,
I like the jalapeno cheddar with the little taste of
this and this. It's stuck in the small bag right
on the lower shelf.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
And you went zap.
Speaker 11 (35:00):
Yeah, what is that?
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Zaps is a great It's awesome. But you you don't know.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
We win cream and onion ain't bad either. Now on
this think me sour cream and onion. But yeah, the
lays is too thin to dip. So that's a good
chip that you can have with any sandwich. And you're
just gonna it's a standalone chip. That's what I caught.
You doesn't need any friends.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
Yeah, the little thinnies like that too, you know, like
the lays. I mean that's one of those. You got
to have about three or four of them together, right,
and then you're still going to have some breakoff there.
So the next person that dips into the bowl is
going to have a little bit of right.
Speaker 8 (35:33):
And you hope that maybe you go back with your
second chip and get the chip that was already in
there to save the person from seeing it.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
Right, you get like a salsa bowl, the chip breaks
off and there you're like, I'm getting that.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
And the problem is if you go salsa into the dip,
you put it on the chip and then go into
the dip, the salsa gets left over in the dip.
So you've almost got to be able to choose how
to do it. So you usually go dip the salsa
because it sticks at the top of the dip if
you go dip. For if you go salsa first, then
the dip, the salsa gets caught in the dip and
the next person like you, what are you doing here?
Speaker 5 (36:03):
See?
Speaker 7 (36:03):
And that's the thing too, is it. Nothing drives me
up a wall more disdained in. Then we go eat
Mexican food and you know, we'll get like an order
of caesto for the table and uh, Megan will try it,
tell me, hey, scoop it onto your plate. I'm like, no,
I want optimal dipping. That means even if we have
a couple of more salsas, then that's fine. I can
just have my own, but I need optimal dipping at
(36:26):
this point because when it's on a plate, I've got
to scrape across. I'm not getting as good amount I need.
It's it's depth. It's depth you don't want. It's the
depth you want to be able to go deep down in.
Plus it avoids double dipping right right, and the screw
that put it on a plate. When it's there, I'm
all hands, all hands on deck. Yeah you feel me,
Stay out of the way. I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Yeah, stay off the tracks when the trains coming through.
Thank you. That's it. And especially when it comes to
chips in salsa, you better believe that.
Speaker 8 (36:53):
I think we in this day and we disrespect chips
too much. I don't think we give them enough lot.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
We don't. I absolutely don't.
Speaker 8 (36:58):
I think we've I think we've kind of oh yeah,
the chip they're one of the great support systems and
all of the food business.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
It's the special teams of the food. You're damn right.
You know you don't. You don't necearily realize it.
Speaker 8 (37:10):
So you miss a kick, send a message RFK, leave those,
leave those, leave them a load. We're allowed to have
dies and any crappy ass like we want.
Speaker 10 (37:17):
Touching chips, as long as they beef talent, because if
you're gonna do that, I'm going to load up and
see if I can keep fresh somehow some ways, seal
them like you do, and like when you buy beef
or so you know it's the seal, not chip, or
you stick them in storage that you have, because if
you're going to take the dies out of chips, what's
the chip.
Speaker 8 (37:34):
I'll be taking dies out of my red vines liquorice. Okay,
that's why I want them unhealthy here. I'm a vine
guy myself too. Twizzlers, We'll get to that another time.
It's like eat a good Year tire. I'll take red vines.
Speaker 9 (37:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
I was gonna say, you give me the choice.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
We are both in unanimous decisiveness on that one, all right.
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How about some good news.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
Luis Garcio works two innings of a rehab start for
the Florida Complex League team. Strikes out four, gives up
a hit and also a run, So two innings rehab starts.
I mean some of the other guys starting to make
some progress out there in Florida, trying to make their
way back. I mean Spencer Aarraghetty soon enough there probably
have to believe here in a week or two. That's
(44:01):
also Christian Hobber going to be in that mold too,
So it would be nice to get at least one
of those guys back, because it does seem like arrag
Getty will be back at some point.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
I mean just for him.
Speaker 7 (44:13):
It's just building them back up, all of those different
types of things, and you know, spring training build up,
we get it. But he should be back hopefully August.
I guess when it comes to him, quit.
Speaker 8 (44:25):
Don't don't start setting yourself up for a schedule with
the Garcia fell for the trap door you did, you're
falling for the okie dope.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
Damn it.
Speaker 8 (44:35):
Sit back. I'm wrong because oh we got to that.
Now you're thinking we'll see him in a week and
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Speaker 5 (44:41):
Am I right? True?
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Really?
Speaker 9 (44:53):
Yeah, just twice a good batting aage, just twice that
it was the chips I chose.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
Yeah, No, I mean that can be. But the one
that sticks with the wrong is wrong.
Speaker 8 (45:02):
What I'm not wrong about is your falling into the
trap of you're getting sucked in, dad, They're you're getting
sucked in on the edge.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
Oh God gave you two itties.
Speaker 8 (45:10):
You'll be pitching, you'll be starting the gay after the
All Star break. No, first of all, they don't play
the day after the altar breaks. Secondly, don't set yourself
up for disdained Danny Dear's head.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
You're not wrong.
Speaker 7 (45:20):
Maybe that's maybe in a roundabout way, that's what I
was doing myself, is that it was you reverse psychology
in your saving maybe yeah, yeah, reverse psychology, what's maybe
that's not even the problem. Maybe passive aggressive. That's one
of my favorites. Now, Oh that person is so passive aggressive, right.
Speaker 8 (45:37):
Or you mean kind of like when somebody gives you
a take, but they say, well they could do this
and they could do that, and they don't really give
you a take.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
Yeah, well, they.
Speaker 8 (45:45):
May win a championship or they may uh, they may
not make the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
It's not a take football.
Speaker 8 (45:50):
Football, Yeah, make the playoffs, may may may win a
super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
That's my favorite instance.
Speaker 8 (45:56):
Like the doctor who says, oh, recovery time sick to
twenty four months. Oh way to go out throwing a limb,
big fella. We appreciate it. So yeah, I'm just I'm
gonna be I'm I'm your psychologist.
Speaker 7 (46:09):
It's like I told you one of my favorite Mike
Francessa's which, by the way, I heard a w f
A n y legend. There there you go, there you go. Yeah,
the godfather of our business. According to somebody we used
to use a drop on one of my old shows
of him. I could see them winning this game. I
could see him losing this game. It's like, what are
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you going on a limb there? I mean, yeah, they
argue to do one of those two things. I mean,
if you don't have the ability for tie right then
then I think that probably that is going to happen. So,
you know, sometimes just take it. It's not sometimes take
a chance. Yeah, stay it with your chest. Well, put
it out there.
Speaker 9 (46:48):
There's a chance Garcile pitch this year, and then there's
a chance he won't.
Speaker 5 (46:52):
That's analysis right there? How's that? How's that for? Really?
Take it aside? Now, the analysis would be that I
don't see him pitching this hit.
Speaker 8 (47:01):
Yeah, well my analysis, I'm telling you, I don't think
you're seeing YOURDN swing a bat in July. I'm talking
about in a live Major League Baseball game.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (47:11):
And maybe that's reverse psychology for me trying to convince
myself if he shows up on July twenty fourth, it'll
be great. I'm just preparing that they're going to have
to roll through July without him and fortunate if you
get him in August, well then let's you know, make
sure that the dreaded inflammation doesn't come back.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
It rear its head.
Speaker 8 (47:30):
It does, Yeah, so I mean, I'm just trying to
I'm trying to temper your excitement Dan about the injury report.
Speaker 7 (47:36):
If he's just now going to start swinging about which
from all accounts, he didn't do yesterday. But if he's
just now going to do that, then you're going to
go to a t then you're going to go to
a soft toss. I mean, you just you understand the progression.
Trust me, we've all heard it now at this point.
But when at the point that you just brought up
after the All Star Break first game is what the
nineteenth I think the All.
Speaker 8 (47:58):
Star Game will be on a Tuesday. They will all
get to their cities and be ready to go on Friday.
So yeah, yeah, mean the Astros restart on Friday, because
there will be no series that starts on a Thursday.
I don't believe everybody gets equal to that. Won't every
series start on a Friday? Post all, I don't know
if there's a four game series coming out of the
All Star Break. For some reason, I feel like, Okay,
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after the game, they get home to their families, then
they get to their teams, and then they travel or
if their family if they take a vacation and then
let's say you're getting ready to play the Giants and
you you went to San Francisco, you went to Wine
Country for two days.
Speaker 5 (48:31):
It's nice.
Speaker 8 (48:32):
Maybe you just stay there and meet the team there.
Whatever it is. But and I don't even know coming
out of it, are they at home or on the road.
But I'm just talking about the overall Major League Baseball.
Speaker 5 (48:40):
You're not wrong.
Speaker 8 (48:41):
Friday is the restart for everybody, because it would be
to get the proper rest. It would be unfair to
have because everybody ended on Sunday, well, or will end
on Sunday for the All Star break and then rolling
into that. You can't give one a four game series
coming out on a Thursday, I wouldn't think. And then
let everybody else get that extra break for Friday, so
they'll all start with, you know, a Friday, Saturday, Sunday series,
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and maybe some carried into Monday on a four gamer.
Speaker 9 (49:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (49:06):
But most of the time it's the three game series
coming to All Star breaks. So you're you're you're not
you're not seeing anybody send Buddy. I would just temper
it because they're they're they're surviving without him in a
big way. So if you need an extra three days,
give him an extra three days. Oh, I think it's
going to be extra maybe three weeks. Maybe that's right,
because he again, like I said, I'm even thrown in
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the pain. You that that thing, Garcia is It may
take a month, it may take four days. I would
always air on the side when it comes to injuries
if you're a fan or media, air on the side.
If it's going to take longer.
Speaker 7 (49:37):
Well, I mean Jordon as it is right now, has
gone about let's see, what's two and two weeks or
two months in one week, that's nine weeks since since
he has seen a meaningful, honest pitch.
Speaker 8 (49:52):
Okay, So they had one game or he had he
had live batting practice one time, right, mm hmmm before
they shut him down again. Right, that was the fracture
one ye, right, last week or what ten days ago?
Whatever it was, right, Yeah, the last whenever it happened
a couple of days before and then Dan it came
on last week so whatever, yeah, special last week and
a half whatever it is. Yeah, I think it was Friday, Okay,
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So if he has not if one time he picked
up the bat, and that's talking about where the ball
is flying off and it felt good.
Speaker 5 (50:22):
But one time where it was.
Speaker 8 (50:23):
Ramped up, okay, big time, and he and he had
to get shut down again. They're going to make extra
sure that three or four times and they ramp up,
they don't have to shut him back again. I just
don't see, just even on the on the simple time
we'll come out of the All Star break, it will
be today's what the eighth Let's see the ninth, tenth, eleventh, twelve, thirteenth, fourteen,
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fifteenth is the All Star Game. Yeah, fifteen, fifteenth, sixteenth, seventeenth,
eighteenth is Friday, Friday the eighteenth. He will not he
will not be playing for that series. No, so now
you're into eighteenth, nineteen twentieth. Now you're in the last
ten days of any and he's not in the minor leagues,
and it's just starting to ramp You're not seeing him
till August. Just under if you're fortunate, if if he
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doesn't have a setback, you just not.
Speaker 5 (51:06):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (51:07):
If you do, it'll be you'll be just as surprised
to see him as you were that it's now nine weeks,
if not more surprised, knowing the situation I would I
would be I would temper, I would think that I'm
gonna go dominate without him, and I think these next
five games are important to prove that.
Speaker 7 (51:23):
But then even when you get him back, he's he's
going to still be rusty. He's not seen live pitching.
Doesn't matter how much you give him at the complex league,
at the Triple A level, wherever it is.
Speaker 8 (51:33):
And are they going to give him fifteen straight days
of plan all this rest? His legs should be fresh
and ready to roll. So no, you're gonna they're gonna
put him in and think, okay, two games, let's give
him a little rest here today so it doesn't flare up.
So going through it, and then he's gonna have to
go down and make sure if he does go down
to minor leagues to get his some work in. It
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can't just be one game and certain normally if it
was just a temporary tend to you know, Okay, get
him back. This has been long, so they're going to
try to. I would imagine put him in a position
where how much stress can he handle with the physical
stress on it? Right, so you're not going to rush
and you have it and the advantage you have of
being able to do this is he's been out nine
(52:16):
weeks and you have created space for your baseball team.
So if just human nature is.
Speaker 5 (52:27):
Well, we're doing this without him.
Speaker 9 (52:29):
We need him.
Speaker 8 (52:30):
He's going to be huge in the middle of our
lineup if he's the Jordon we know and he's healthy,
But damn wouldn't you like a ninety nine point seven
percent healthy Jordon as opposed to an eighty five point
six because we got him back two weeks or there's
no way with that precious commodity are you going to
risk getting him back sooner than later? And maybe that
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was the case. I got the feeling that when we
saw this that Jordon was urging them that this is
my feeling, this is my opinion that before they had
to shut him down again, that he gave them because
we never got a full is he one hundred percent?
Speaker 5 (53:04):
He was close mutual between two.
Speaker 8 (53:08):
So what happens when you're sitting in there, You're sitting
around like, hey man, Dan, how you feel?
Speaker 11 (53:10):
Dude?
Speaker 8 (53:11):
Sean, I'm good to go? Are you sure you sure
you want to do? You're sure you want to travel today?
Speaker 11 (53:16):
Dude?
Speaker 8 (53:16):
You just got off the flu. Why don't you wait
another day and we'll see in it. You know, on
a road trip. Now, I'm good to go. Your voice,
you're good, yeah, okay, and then you find out you're
not good to go. So and this in a more
serious situation because the hand. So I'm just saying you
have to you have to mindset your way, as do
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they that we'll see in August if you're fortunate. That's
just the way I'm looking at it. And I may
be rom not a doctor, but my mindset is see
you in August. He ain't playing in July.
Speaker 7 (53:46):
In my opinion, it seems like it would be almost
impossible to screw something like this up, But yet somebody
out there did.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
We'll discuss that. Here.
Speaker 7 (53:55):
It is Sean Salisbury Show on a Tuesday, Sports Talk
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Speaker 9 (54:12):
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Speaker 5 (54:17):
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Speaker 1 (54:18):
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Speaker 5 (54:29):
It is on a Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (54:30):
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is the steakout and Sean, have you ever been to
Wriggley Field?
Speaker 5 (55:04):
Sorry, come on, son, have I been to Yeah? Of
course I've been.
Speaker 7 (55:08):
Well, I mean, I'm yes. Most times I gotta come correct,
and I just I just want to make sure.
Speaker 8 (55:12):
I want to make you come correct. Yes, I've been
to Wrigley Field. I was joking because you know, i'd
like all those historic sites, right stuff. Yes, and I
have been.
Speaker 7 (55:19):
So you know what one of the staples of Wrigley
Field is, right?
Speaker 5 (55:22):
Well?
Speaker 8 (55:22):
Are you talking about the beer? Well there is that,
there is old style. Are you talking about the gold
style beer? Are you talking about Dodge the Chicago Dog?
You could get that too. Are we talking about actually
Polish sausage?
Speaker 5 (55:37):
Maybe maybe even abroad? You know, throw that on there.
Speaker 8 (55:39):
It's the Midwest when you grow when the vines on
the wall grow and you get the ivy wall that's green.
Speaker 5 (55:45):
Yeah, the ivy out in the outfield.
Speaker 8 (55:46):
Yeah right, let's see what else is a staple, well,
staple Chicago. I mean there's deep dish pizza, but that's
not a project, they're right, But you're you're talking about
at or around the ballpark. Yeah, okay, A lot of
good bars in that big square that goes around there
is wavelands, were a lot of baseballs have all the
batting cage in it, which I got in there, probably
(56:08):
a little overserved.
Speaker 5 (56:09):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (56:09):
The guy finally was just like, all right, a couple
more swings and get out ready, right?
Speaker 8 (56:13):
Yeah, yeah, your your timing is a little off because
of those fourteen shots you had.
Speaker 5 (56:18):
I don't or just don't do a fifteenth. I don't
know what else.
Speaker 7 (56:21):
We talking about, Well, a little thing that is all
throughout baseball, but of course Chicago and the Cubs have
made famous over the years, that is the seventh inning
stretch normally hey, yeah, exactly. He was the one who
got it all started. And of course in Harry's memory,
they'll bring in different people to sing it like you
had Jeff Gordon who went there once and said it's
(56:43):
great to be here at Wrigley Stadium.
Speaker 5 (56:45):
He got booed. You can't call it that.
Speaker 7 (56:47):
You had kid Rock once who at the end, no
matter what the score is, you know, it's the you know,
you know, three strikes, you're at the old ball game.
Speaker 5 (56:57):
It's let's get some runs. Well, well, it's supposed.
Speaker 7 (57:01):
To be a tradition where it's not about you, it's
about the crowd that's there. If anything, you started off,
take me out to the ball and then stick the
microphone out the window of the press box for everybody to,
you know, start singing along.
Speaker 5 (57:16):
But you're hearing them as well. You join in on it.
Speaker 7 (57:19):
Well, are you familiar with Alex Cooper of Call Her
Daddy podcast?
Speaker 8 (57:23):
I'm not so now that you mentioned it, but I
don't know. I've seen clips, but I don't really know.
If if the person walked in here right now, I'd
have a hard time telling you who she used to.
Speaker 7 (57:33):
Be on barstool that podcast. Yes, I know that is
had had the whole That's where I've heard the name.
I don't know anything with Portnoy, who's got the IP
all all of that. Different types of stuff. Well, anyway,
Sunday night, Sunday night baseball. There Cubs and Cardinals, and
the Cubs are up I think, like eleven and nothing
at this point. So you got to believe that the
crowd would be in a really good spot, that they'd
(57:55):
be in good spirits because hey, the Cubbies are beaten
up on the hated Cardinals. Well then they now and
said Alex Cooper, not Alice Cooper, Alex of Call Her
Daddy is going to be singing take me out to
the ballgame. And this is how it went.
Speaker 5 (58:29):
Wait for it.
Speaker 4 (58:40):
Crowd is not feeling it.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
All right.
Speaker 5 (58:46):
That's enough. I can only handle so much more.
Speaker 7 (58:49):
So we also when because she was making it about herself,
she had like two of her podcast girls with her,
and she.
Speaker 8 (58:58):
Tried out was she trying to be like discovered as
a great karaoke person or something, either.
Speaker 5 (59:02):
That or making a mockery of it.
Speaker 7 (59:04):
I mean, I think that probably people looked at it
and were like, dude, this isn't about you, all right,
Like this is start off the song, stick the microphone
out the booth, and then stick the microphone back out
the booth, and then at the end of it, say
you know, let's get some runs Cubbies or something like that.
Some runs go Cubbies. Right there you go. But she
(59:24):
had again on radio, so you have to explain it.
She had like two of her podcast people.
Speaker 5 (59:29):
Were they like Gladys Knight and the Pips.
Speaker 7 (59:32):
Exactly and like almost like kind of like doing this
like goofy dance behind her and then at the end
they picked her up and held her up like almost
like she was like Mariah Carey during one of her performances.
Speaker 5 (59:43):
And people were just like, come on, man, like that's
not what this is for.
Speaker 8 (59:47):
What you do is you hold a beer up and
toast it right before you at the end, after you
say the go cubbies and hold a beer. But what
there I can tell you this and haven't been there
with plenty at times that lived there no a bunch
of people's Chicago.
Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
You can screw up a lot of things. Don't screw
that up exactly.
Speaker 8 (01:00:04):
That that's the one that's the equivalent of like when
for them, you know, when you go out, like your
buddy said, go out there, stand on the rubber and throw.
When you throw out the first pitch, don't stand. If
you're in a former athlete don't stand at the bottom
of the dirt. You stand your ass back at the
rubber and throw it exactly what do you throw? A
striker or not? Throw it hard and hopefully it hits.
Don't don't miss by seventy four feet unless it's over
one hundred by an hour fastball over their head. When
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you sing it that, they take pride in there. That
is you. You want them to join in. And then hey,
you know right whatever.
Speaker 7 (01:00:33):
I mean, you heard us, can't you know, punt there
and move out at the end. I guarantee there was
probably you know, a guy there. It's just like, I'm
not staying around for this. Anybody want a beer?
Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:00:43):
Yeah, hey, you know, tell you what do you want there?
They take their seventh inning stretch?
Speaker 11 (01:00:46):
What do you want?
Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
An old style?
Speaker 8 (01:00:47):
All right, I'm going to get Yeah they do. I
mean because God bless them, I didn't see it, so
I couldn't tell. I'm gonna have to go back and
look at what it looked like post the visuals.
Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
Yeah, why do that? And then God rest his soul.
Speaker 7 (01:00:59):
Mango Michael, remember he had one of the most famous
ones of I guess they got a rough strike three
call or something. Earlier in the game, Angel Hernandez was
behind on plate and he said, you know, this would
be a great game if it wasn't for that umpired
down there screwing things up. And you get Angel Hernandez
just leering up at where he is and it's like, Angel,
(01:01:20):
that's Mango brother. You ain't taking him to No matter
what mlbast says, they're not gonna say anything, but you're
just gonna have to deal with the flack of a
bad call in Mongo represent in Chicago as he always did,
it's supposed to be just have fun with it, but
also too, you don't make it about yourself, like I
think that you heard her right there, Duke.
Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
Now it's just like, come on, man, like.
Speaker 7 (01:01:41):
No, it's just it's it's not even about like nobody
cares about your singing chops, but it's the fact that,
like you're making it about yourself.
Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
That's why people start to.
Speaker 8 (01:01:49):
You want to make it about that there's forty thousand
people at Wrigleyfielder thirty five whatever it is, and if
they're all your buddy sitting next to you, singing together.
Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
That's it. Yeah, yeah, oh one too.
Speaker 8 (01:01:59):
If you need you could throw a karaoke party, you
would think she could sing, right right. I think it's
one of the great honors. And I love Chicago fans,
I do. I think it's one of the great honors
to somebody to ask you to sing the health They
might as well just stick you on the duck. I'd
rather do that than sit in the dugout for nine
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innings during a game, just because of that. That's how
they win the people over. Guys like Mongo Bill Murray
do it right. You know, even if you want it
at the end, give a little Hey, this bud's for you.
They'd love it because you pay a tribute to the
great Harry Carey.
Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
So because there are there are some who are canonized
in Chicago war, I mean Murray is one of those people.
Bill Bill Murray shows up. I mean he could do this,
and I think people would still be like, Okay, we
that's Bill.
Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
Murray, right of course, But he wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (01:02:46):
He'd been grandfathered in because he's a legend and he
did it right the first time.
Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
And Mike Ditka another one. Ditka had another good rendition.
Speaker 8 (01:02:54):
Oh yeah, if you're in one of the whether you're
a bear or a bull, if you do it right,
I mean, you won't buy a drink for the rest
of your life and they'll love.
Speaker 5 (01:03:03):
You forever and cigar.
Speaker 8 (01:03:05):
All right, chubby fans, Yeah, oh yeah. And what are
you going to say to him? Take a scholarship away?
If what about? It's not how the voice aids, how
you include the people that said, shave the mustache. You're
no longer the man we believed that you were. Nobody
has the balls to go up and say that, right, Yeah,
that old man is still tough. One hundred year old
(01:03:25):
could still show up. Dan Hampton, I got some fun
stories I could tell you. One of the greatest nights
of my life was spent with me and Mike Didka.
You want to hear that story please? Yeah, I'll get
it to you whenever you decide we have time today.
One of the great stories of my life, just on.
I can't believe this was with Coach Dick and to
(01:03:47):
this day he's one of I feel like, Mike Ditka
is my dad. That's not my dad, meaning Mike's always
treated me phenomenal, But more importantly, he reminds me of
the toughness that he bring. It was like my pops,
right and when I'm around, I don't want to say
that to you, like you're like my dad, Mike, but
he he like like it took me under his wing
(01:04:08):
when he got to ESPN. Dude and a fun story
one night. And when Mike Ditka says you're going to
do something, I suggest you get on board.
Speaker 7 (01:04:17):
Well, it's like our buddy was Super seventy Sports with
Harry Carey for law Preferita Mexican food Products and his
caption forward is Harry Carey tells you to grab a taco, grab.
Speaker 8 (01:04:27):
A tak You don't grab a burto grab a taco.
That's exactly what Mike dick.
Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
After a long game at the ballpark. I'll share it quick.
I'll share with you next wait a couple of minutes.
Speaker 8 (01:04:35):
But I think you'll appreciate the type of guy Ditka
is because that tough exterior, but Mike's is good a
human being as you'll ever find. And I always get
nervous because I when he got a little he was
under the weather and was in the hospital a couple
of years ago. I called him and it's like, you know,
he's one of those guys you thinks is gonna live
till you.
Speaker 9 (01:04:54):
One hundred and fifty.
Speaker 8 (01:04:54):
You know what I'm saying. You just can't hard to father.
I love coach Chika, love him, love him.
Speaker 7 (01:04:59):
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car cash all those other things that go with contracts
in the NBA. Just it confuses me at every single turn.
Speaker 8 (01:05:16):
Yeah, whatever happened to day that here's your contract, here's there,
all the little nooks and credit that go, yeah, it's
a max super max. He did this, We can do this.
We got to move. It's it's crazy, but it's that
is to the NBA. What fully guaranteed is to the NFL.
Speaker 9 (01:05:32):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (01:05:33):
Now.
Speaker 7 (01:05:33):
Deferred is to Major League Baseball, at least the Dodgers
in that case, that's exactly right. But the story about
Mike Ditka, I am eagerly anticipating.
Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
This and you may not love it for me is
one of the best times. Mike just how it was.
Speaker 8 (01:05:46):
Bro This is Mike Dicka, right, we're working together at ESPN.
He'd come on and was doing Sunday countdown and coming on,
you know, the sports centers and stuff. And listen, when
Mike Dicka walks into the room, it's there's a different
vibe and he's intimidating, but he's also that's Mike Ditka, right,
He's always let me tell you something, dude.
Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
Always perfectly quaffed.
Speaker 8 (01:06:12):
He even smokes a cigar and makes it look classy. Right,
he's always the shirts fit right, the suit always fits right,
the pocket square, he does it. I'm telling you the
way he pours this, what everything is. You think a
guy that tough, but he is meticulous and everything. It's
You'll never see Mike Dick in a bag a golf
(01:06:33):
shirt that looks like it's three sizes too big. So
Mike is always it's just too you know. The hair
is perfectly with the proper amountage, everything right. Mustache looks
grand and a great lettuce on the hair does Mike's.
I've never seen Ditka with a five o'clock shadow. He's
either hair or not. It's not It does not matter
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what's going on during the day. And I'll give you
a perfect example. So we are doing our NFL Live,
me and him and Trey Wingo and the crew. We go,
you know how they'll do the camp stops. We did
like ten camp stops, and we go on a tour.
So we start out in the West Coast, go to
the Cowboys and we're n Oxnard. Then after we drink there,
then we fly to another city and then we fly
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to Indianapolis to go watch the Colts and do NFL
Live live from their practice facility. They'll set up and everything,
and it's it's Trey and Mike and I are every
single day and do an NFL Live from there. So
we fly to Indianapolis and we go to the Colts
practice and then it's time to fly, like we're headed
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to Philadelphia the next day, and we're having we're having
a blast in Mike's Mike you know, he doesn't mince words,
and we're having a blast. And they're sitting around and
it's hot, it's muggy in the middle of summer, and
he's still butting up when he sweats, like seems to
melt by the time it hits his shirt. Right the
rest of us are, you know, got it all coming down.
And so so we're in Indianapolis and it ends and
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we go the airport to fly to Philly. Mike doesn't
want to fly. Right now, we're at the airport drinking
beer and he wants a steak, and he's not ready
to go. We're literally at the airport. They call our flight.
Mike says, Shan, he goes, I am, I'm not going.
I'll see you guys there tomorrow. Trey Wing are our producer,
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all of it. Mike, he can't, and all of them
are getting walking the gate. Our boss calls the big
boss and said, well, insurance purpose, he's got to get
on the plane. Mike said, uh no, I actually don't.
So we're at this at the airport bar. Everybody starts walking. Sean,
you got to come, I said, let me tell you something.
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You know, and I've been there ten years, right, I said,
And I've been on that show since it started. I'm
like in Trey WINGO. And my boss is saying. I said,
I'm not leaving.
Speaker 9 (01:08:49):
Mike.
Speaker 8 (01:08:49):
Dick said, here, can you imagine all of us up
and leaving him?
Speaker 12 (01:08:53):
Now?
Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
He would he would have been fine, But I say, you.
Speaker 8 (01:08:55):
Know what I think in the long haul, showing loyalty
to him, I'm not going either. Mike looked at me
and goes called his assistant booked a private plane for
the next morning, and they're like, Sean, we got to
go interest. The boss is telling us to get on
the plane, and I'm like, well, I like my boss,
but I got Ditka. He will never forget and he
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never forget it. But I was having a good time,
like and Mike will be there. He said, get on
the plane, we will be there. I said, I'm staying
with Mike. I'm gonna make sure well, Sean take care
of him. Of course I'm gonna take care of him,
but he probably take care of me too. They get
on the plane and they are They're bothered by this,
and the bosses are pissed.
Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
But it's Ditka.
Speaker 8 (01:09:32):
So I said, if I'm going down, if you take
it him down, I go down before him, obviously, but
I'm staying with him.
Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
And he's never forgot to this day. We stayed there.
Speaker 8 (01:09:40):
He calls up and we walk into Saint Elmos, which
is one of the great steakhouses on the planet. Mike
wanted the cigars and a steak, and he wanted to
have wine.
Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
I stayed with him.
Speaker 8 (01:09:50):
They were all panicked, constantly contacting, shut out the phone.
We go to Saint Elmos. The rest of the night.
It's closed. He closed down closed. We're still eating and
he's smoking a cigar se almost and nobody else is
there but him and I. Now I ain't pulling that up,
but it was there. And then they closed it down,
locked the doors, and Dick and I are still in there. Celebrate.
It's one point thirty two in the morning. Greatest stay
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and Mike won't let you pay for anything. Go back
to the hotel. Wake up the next morning, dude, it's
I mean, we'd been working in this heat all day.
Wake up the next morning. He slept for like an
hour and a half. Private planes waiting on us. Meet
him downstairs in the lobby after about an hour and
a half with a sleep. Dude, he looked as if
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he'd slept for forty seven hours. Tie button. I mean,
I'm looking a him thinking as dude, I'm telling you,
to the point of like he was getting ready to
do a photo shoot. We get to the airport, Mike
and I are having a blast laughing about last night,
and it was great. The cigar was perfect, the steak
was off the chain, just the and we had so
many stories to shait I mean just being around him, right,
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And I'm thinking that one of the greatest decisions I
will have ever made is not the bail on on
Mike Ditka, because he'll never forget it. We get on
that plane, dude, We fly and they're worried we're not
going to make it on time.
Speaker 5 (01:11:05):
We get there.
Speaker 8 (01:11:05):
We're dressed up, make up, on a coat and tie,
laced up, sitting on the set. We beat the people
to the set that left the night before, and I said,
you guys went, you were worried about it. We got
on a private plane so we were more comfortable. We
got there before you, an hour and a half before
you were setting on the set ready to go. After
Mike's another cigar in the morning, We're ready to go,
talking Andy Reid on the side, getting ready to go.
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When he was in Philly and you guys didn't have
any fun. You stayed in a dumb ass hotel and
I drank with Mike and smoke and smoked cigars in
ate steak till two in the morning because of Mike
Ditka and the one thing, And to this day, he'll
never he didn't forget it, because you know what that
loyalty of you know what, I'm going to take a chance.
And that was a chance because I could have the
reprimand oh, you're gonna slap my hand, okay, But I
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was taking care of coach Ditka and make sure he
got there right. Well, he took care. He wouldn't take
any money for the private everything. That's who he is, dude,
loyal friend, and I made the right decision, although I
was a little I'm going back to Bristol there I
got to barbecue my ass because of insurance. And they
told you, guys said well listen, I'm gonna take you.
I'll take a slap on the hand. Or even if
you said, well, Sean, sit the next couple of days
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out for this because you didn't pay attention, I'll do
that for Ditka.
Speaker 5 (01:12:13):
You never forgot it. And he was dude. He looked
like he'd slept for and.
Speaker 8 (01:12:16):
I'm thinking, I'm thirty years younger than this dude toy,
and he looks like he'd been ready for for a
for a f He was going to give a speech,
but we got on said it was a great secred.
We're satting and he's relaxing and talking to any We're
sitting there and said we beat them by an hour
and a half and we got a steak last night
and they ate a burger and a drive through. So
but that's who dick Is did and that was but
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the stories we shared that night I will never forget.
Some probably best left sure staying in my soul. But
he to me, coach dickas like family and is always
and he's had some tough love for me too what
needs to get done, and I'm I'm so grateful for him.
I love him and I'll never forget that night. It
was a great decision I made, and had they suspended
me for a week, I would have gladly taken it
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because it was worth it.
Speaker 9 (01:12:59):
But they didn't.
Speaker 8 (01:13:00):
And I have the Mike Ditka protection. So Sean was
with me, you don't do it. And when Dicka spoke,
most of the people in that building usually listened.
Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
So guy like I said, you sat up straight, and
the coach is here.
Speaker 8 (01:13:12):
And the truth is, there's a stuff I wasn't. I
wanted to fly out his private play and and I
wanted to eat a steak and smoke a cigar with him,
and plus I get the ball hog the stories right,
It's one of those things like, oh, it's just him
and I. It was really cool, and the people in
the restaurant did co walked in there. It's like, we'll
keep it open for it right now. We had nothing
to do with me. I had everything to do with him,
So I was grateful. And uh, I know he's not listening,
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but I love I love Coachka, always will love him.
Speaker 7 (01:13:37):
I was gonna say, if Tony Dungee showed up, that
have been like a sorry coach will close.
Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
Probably not, They probably kept it open. But well no,
it would have been right, hey is that Tony? Hey,
break Tony in here? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:13:48):
Oh yeah, well ditto at Tony, who's not a drinkers.
I would have sat there with nothing but respect and
talking and had and he'd have showed up on time
the next day too.
Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
That that that's who. But put it this way, they.
Speaker 8 (01:14:00):
Would show up differently, Tony and Mike different personalities, but
both that same respect of understanding how to do the
right thing. And I love coach Man and I love
Tony Dunge as well. But that night with Mike Ditka,
I will never ever forget. And then the next morning
when I saw him, I'm like the dude slept an hour.
He's seventy and we had a steak and cigar and
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I can't wait to share that story with.
Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
Him from Cocktail too.
Speaker 8 (01:14:24):
It was fun, off the charts everything and then you
know what, Oh it's closes it the kitchen closed at midnight?
Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
Oh does it?
Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
Coach? Did case here?
Speaker 8 (01:14:34):
He and they'd let him go back in the back
and cook his own steak if he wanted.
Speaker 7 (01:14:38):
He got you got the cooks coming back, meat clean right,
will stay longer.
Speaker 8 (01:14:45):
And you know he's a great tipper. All those because
just all those things that people may not know about it.
But I can tell you this too, is that that's
a guy you want battling for you. It doesn't matter
how old he is, what have you, because he is
a complete he gets it.
Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
I love him. When I listened to him.
Speaker 7 (01:15:01):
He did a kickoff event that went to a few
years ago and at the end it got to the
Q and A and somebody asked him about Fridge for
Drader Perry and he was talking about, you know, he's
still going through some personal things, but you know, Fridge
is in a good spot overall though, you know, just
talking about just different guys that he was asked about,
and you could tell that he still keeps in contact
with his A game, Mike, let.
Speaker 8 (01:15:22):
Those guys play, and there's not you'll never he was
tough as a player, tough as a coach as well documented.
And you know McMahon used to drive him nuts, of course,
and Cod they battle each other, and I've heard stories
from both sides, but Mike the respect. And you know, Mike,
when you ask him about regret, I still think to
this day he's probably says his biggest regret is not
giving Walter Payton the ball in the Super Bowl score
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touchdown because of what Walter meant and I and it's
still I think to this day, I know it did
then it's still bothered Coach did I've heard him twenty
years ago and I get it. But he he he
knew how to let his players. You talk about a
team that police themselves when they came out of the
locker room to play you in a game I played
against him, Dude, they walk through that tunnel. That was
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as intimidating a group as you'll ever see, because they
they felt when they walked down of locker room they
were kicking your ass and defensively.
Speaker 5 (01:16:12):
In eighty five.
Speaker 8 (01:16:14):
They did it to everybody and those guys were left
over when I was just like, woa, these guys are
pretty good.
Speaker 7 (01:16:18):
That's why I love this story about when McMahon got
to Hallis Hall and they said that old man McCaskey
was taking a nap and he goes his ass, wake
him up. I got stuff to do today, exactly, use
a different word. That stuff you know, you get no doubt.
Speaker 8 (01:16:32):
So anything you know about Mike Dick hopefully good, but
the stuff you don't, he would change any perception you
have this day because he is a true.
Speaker 9 (01:16:39):
Gentleman when it comes to all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
Love him. Big fan, yep, big fan for sure.
Speaker 7 (01:16:43):
Speaking of a big fan, we are big fans of
Mike Ditka, but also big fans of this guy.
Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
Will explain right here.
Speaker 7 (01:16:49):
It is a Sean Salisbury show on Tuesday, Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 12 (01:16:56):
Sales.
Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 7 (01:17:01):
I saw this yesterday and this is something I'm sure
you'll probably get a kick out of. So Golf Digests
on July the fifth, so that is Saturday, puts out
a story and the caption of it's or the title
of it, Auburn football coach plays a lot of golf
in the Auburn football coach, of course, is Hugh Freeze.
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Well the caption in their tweet to promote said story,
the Auburn football program is having recruiting issues that some
are blaming on its coach playing too much golf. We're
huge fans of Lane Kiffin. Correct, Well, I mean I
know that you are obvious, and I think that most
people who follow college football are and getting to him
here in just a second, because the very next day,
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Hugh Freeze on Twitter, a great time at first annual
Ryder Cup between MMCC and BCC. I guess a couple
of country clubs there clubs right there in the Montgomery,
Auburn ople Aika area. The Cup comes home to Auburn
this year year. Great times. Here's Lane Kiffin, great job coach.
Game is on fire emoji.
Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
So a lot of.
Speaker 7 (01:18:08):
People probably think the job you know, he's he's tapping
them up. No, that's one hundred percent what he's doing.
Because this is where you come in, Sean. Isn't it
kind of one of those where in football coaching, a
look like you've been playing a lot of golf.
Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
Oh, I haven't been playing a lot of golf.
Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Matter.
Speaker 8 (01:18:23):
Even if they have, right, they'll deny it. Yeah, because
coaches have this, They want you to think that they
sleep at the office. They want you to think that
everything that they're on their free time, that they're watching tape,
that they're studying their opponent in June. That you're not
allowed to go play golf for one day because if
you do, you're not focused on your team.
Speaker 5 (01:18:42):
What are you doing?
Speaker 8 (01:18:43):
Oh you lost that recruit? You guys, you're on the course,
that's right. Like I said, I've compared this. I can
remember when when I was in Dallas whenever, because Romeo's
a big golfer, Tony Romo, he'd go out and like
playing some qualifying event for a tournament or try to qualify,
or go play golf in in March, not missing Mini Camperty,
play golf golf in March, and then he'd throw a
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pick in the fall. And you know what, the first
thing people would say, it's playing too much, damn golf.
Played golf. Yeah, yeah, if you wouldn't have played golf,
you maybe you wouldn't throw that pick. And they're serious,
It's like, you can't be that dumb if he played
golf the day before, has absolutely on his day off.
It has absolutely nothing to do with a picky throws
four days later. It's just stupid. But now if you freezes, says,
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I'll get to that recruit later. I got at holes way.
Now becomes a problem and they will remind him of it.
But oh, coaches that they don't ever want you to
think they have luxury time. Oh man, I've been grinding
fifty two weeks and I took a vacation for a
couple days. When I was watching tape the whole time.
They want, oh, there is no doubt. And then you
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go in their office and they're sitting there smoking a
grid or so. I was like, oh, yeah, grinding. But
they want you for the most part, they don't want
you to think you're living a life of luxury. No,
whenever you leave the complex, you're automatically going to make
a call or visit a recruit, or that you're still
and tape on your cell phone when you're at the
golf course in between shots.
Speaker 5 (01:20:04):
That's not realistic. Okay, this June's the time off for
a lot of these guys at July early on.
Speaker 8 (01:20:09):
Now they're kicking in post July fourth, But yeah, don't
tell a coach you're doing too much golfing.
Speaker 5 (01:20:15):
The first thing they'll say is.
Speaker 8 (01:20:18):
No, no, no, no, dude, I played like three times this offseason.
You mean thirty three times in the last two months.
But you want them to think everybody that, oh, dude,
you wake up and you eat tape for breakfast, right
that you're studying that that that player and that recruit.
Now that's not realistic. But coaches, do you want to
get into coaches saying, say, a lot of leisure time
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for you this offseason. They're they're fighting words for coaches,
no doubt. That's pretty much what Lee says. So and
he knows it. He frigging knows it. And he knows
that again because right now, I guarantee Freeze is going
to be if he plays golf again before the season starts,
he's going to make sure it's in private where nobody
talks about it, right because he didn't want that same
troll job coming from lay.
Speaker 7 (01:20:57):
Whatever Cup put of course, yeah, yeah, that four star coach.
Speaker 8 (01:21:03):
Or watch what's gonna happen. Hugh Freeze is going to
put out one like in the next week that says,
the grind was still on the grund. Making sure you
know that he's focused on football down not golf. Oh yeah,
that's common. Keep an eye on his Twitter, that's common.
You're sure, yeah, coaches, And if he's got a chance
to score thirty more points in the fourth quarter, as
both of them will, and Lane's a type to go
if you score forty, Lane says, my handicap may not
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be very good, but I know how to call plays.
That'd be something he'd say too, Jim, There's no doubt,
there is no question. Like I've said, he's Mike Leached
without being Mike Leach when it comes to we anticipate
his press conferences now because you know or is Twitter. Yeah,
he's he's He's a pretty priceless troll man in a
good way.
Speaker 5 (01:21:44):
Yeah, love them for it.
Speaker 7 (01:21:45):
Ye, something that happened in the Astros game last night
that disappointing for some, but I think it tells another story.
We'll talk about it here. It is Sean Salisbury Show,
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To usc true longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
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Dan matthewscuse es. This is the Sewan Salisbury Show. We'll
be talking a lot of shows. They lose last night
seven to five to the Guardians. Second game of the
series coming up tonight, Hunter Brown gonna be on the
mound for that. Luis Garcia two innings of a rehab
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start yesterday in Florida with the Complex League team, four strikeouts,
gives up a hit and a run, but making his
way back from Tommy John surgery. Someone three two and
two five seven ninety is the number to get in
on the phone lines and Sean something that happened last
night that we've become rather used to not occurring last night.
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So you get five and two thirds out of Colton Gordon.
That's nice because I mean, as I talked about on
the tenth Inning show, Gordon is a guy that you
get five innings out of him if he stretches at
the sixth. The second part is probably stretching the realistic
expectations that you can have for the guys. So five
and two thirds, he leaves a guy on base. Steven
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Okert comes out of the bullpen. Steven Okert has been
pretty good this year. I think we can agree on that, right,
no doubt.
Speaker 7 (01:23:37):
So he comes in, walks the first hitter and then
he gives up the double down the left field line
that just goes over east. Soak Perettis's glove. YEP, I
know some people Perettis has to have that, Sure, why not?
Perettis has played a really good third base, but gives
up the one earned run and that saddles Gordon with
the loss because the go ahead run was the fifth
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one six to one goes to Okre with the wall,
so at that point it's six to four. But then
it's immediately after of like I said, whenever I see moments,
I'll search a name and just see what people are saying.
You've got people who are upset with Steven Okert, and
I'm like, you're looking at it the absolute wrong way.
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This guy has been nothing but a bonus this year
for the team. And the fact that he gives up
one earned run when I didn't even go back and
look at what the last earned run that Steven Okert
gave up.
Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
But he gives up one earned run.
Speaker 7 (01:24:30):
And I'm even seeing the same things about caylib Bord
with the you know, insurance run home run that just
snuck into the Crawford boxes. I mean, Taylor Tremmel, if
it's a foot or two, that'll right, and I get it,
you know, if in woods and shoulds and all those
different things. But if it's an inch or two to
the right, he's got it lined up. It's a catch,
You're out the inning. There's there's no harm, no foul.
That's how good this bullpen has been this year that
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we're looking at two separate guys giving up an earned
run and we're saying, come on, guys, what the hell.
Speaker 8 (01:24:57):
I'm just trying to figure out. Well, I'm not trying
to figure out. I know the answer, but say it
out loud, is that the expectations are ridiculous and stupid.
There's too much that. I mean, I know that you're compartmentalizing.
And here's what happens. You do good and have one
bad game, people don't give you the hall pass. You
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do bad and have one good game, they'll focus on what.
Speaker 5 (01:25:19):
You look at.
Speaker 8 (01:25:19):
He's back, but the body of works if we forget
the body of work going in. So what's going to
happen if when and if Hater blows the save this year?
Are we going to say why? You will go to
Twitter and somebody say why do we pay him eighty
nine million or ninety three? Easily and there'll be more
than one that says it. Those you just got to
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take with the grain of salt and just say they.
And I'm sorry if you're one of those who does
that having an opinion on somebody. Now, if he goes
out there and walks seven in a row, he deserves criticism.
Give up a base hit, you know, get an earned run.
It's gonna happen. It's that the timing of it probably bothered.
I mean, not of that, but you know, depending on
what the timing is. When more people come out of
the world work in our man But the expectations we
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place on these guys to have to be perfect every night,
it's impossible. Can you imagine quitting on a player every
time he made it out? You'd hate al Tuve, right,
you know what I'm saying. Well, he's been doing it
great for a long time, I get it, but this
year he's been lights out. The bullpen's been lights out.
They're going to have him and the back end a
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brave who's gonna have one? He's been He's pitched like
an all star. We've seen Hater. It's the same thing here. Yes,
the memory's long when it's not good. The memory is
short when it is good. Does that make sense? Meaning
the people's approach like, oh, yeah, he's been great? The
what about now? What's going on? How come he couldn't
get him out white? And I understand people's opinion. Just
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because somebody has opinion doesn't mean I've got to buy
into it and then I have to agree with it. Okay,
you can have all the opinion you want to beat
him down over one earned run. If and you went
and saw it, it's baffling to me. It's the people
unrealistic and quite frankly, it's eye rolling.
Speaker 7 (01:27:05):
It's one of my favorites. Oh that's just my opinion.
What doesn't make it right? Yes, well that's my opinion. Great,
your opinion sucked, but that's okay. And if you literally
are honestly got a problem with him, then you haven't
watched the full season and you just turned in, then
you finally just tuned into baseball today right or last night.
Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
So now for me, I'm not.
Speaker 9 (01:27:31):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (01:27:32):
If it becomes a pattern, then you do it. His
pattern this year has been really good and it's gonna
happen one earned run and like you said, I don't
know how long, but he's been pretty solid.
Speaker 7 (01:27:41):
Well, I mean the group as a whole that has
no doubt and really good doesn't mean that they're infallible.
Speaker 8 (01:27:46):
There's an efting really good and perfect and even hater.
It's even then you get out and you get a save.
It might have been a high leverage, stressful save where
you're gonna go back, Oh, I got to save. But
if you're Josh Hady saying, you know what, I got
to locate better, we were fortunate to get out of it.
Got a slow roller, got rolled over on one, got
out of it. And he may not even even pitched
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his best. Hell, you could be pitching great. A guy
throws his bat out there and boom, hits the ball
down the line or hits a gapper and you're like,
how did he hit that pitch? Well, it happened, So yeah,
we're unreal realistic in all of it. When there's a trend.
It's one thing when it just happens. That's called baseball
and pro sports. It's gonna happen. It won't be the
last time somebody hits drives in a run off him.
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It will not be the last time.
Speaker 7 (01:28:28):
Let's just use Brian abrew you for example. You know
how many times he's given up one earned run in
an outing this year? One twice, well, at least one
is the better way to describe it. A couple times,
three times twice against the Mariners, and then once was
the walk off two run job with the runner on
(01:28:48):
base when he came at the end of the game
in Sacramento.
Speaker 5 (01:28:52):
But three times this year.
Speaker 7 (01:28:54):
So that's again, it's the expectations that we build up
where in this series, the Rangers series, whatever it is,
a break you God forbid, gives up an earned run unrealistic.
Speaker 5 (01:29:05):
Now, the thing about the timing of it will bother
people too. Even more.
Speaker 8 (01:29:07):
You give up an walk off, let's say you're closing
because hater is not available and you're closing walk off
that then it's like, oh, how could he do that?
Speaker 5 (01:29:17):
Get him out of the closer. You know how that goes.
Speaker 8 (01:29:19):
But for the most part, he and a handful of
those guys in the bullpen have been damn near unscorable
this year. On them, you just haven't and they've been
l he has. So there, it's going to happen. It's
going to happen. And yes, at some point this year,
I'm sure Josh Hater will blow as safe. I hope not,
because I'm sure it will happen. You can still have
(01:29:40):
a phenomenal, spectacular year and and have one game where
it's like you could actually make a good pitch and
still lose a game, right, or good pitch happens all
the time, So yeah, I don't get caught up in
I try to compartmentalize. When there's a trend happens once, happens,
happens twice, you get it happens three times. Uh, that
that starting to become a trend. You know, a guy
(01:30:02):
hits a batter or walks three batters three straight times
he performs, then that's a trend. We got to get
to the bottom. Guy happens to walk two batters in
one game and hasn't walked one in thirty seven innings,
And then I would have matagined it's just one of
those days.
Speaker 7 (01:30:14):
Well, it's just like, you know, for Hater, for example,
the Astros when they beat the Rockies and that was
the Tuesday opener of this series. They had a two
run lead. He gives up the home run there, and
I'm just wondering if people are starting, Oh, here's Josh
Hater again, It's like.
Speaker 5 (01:30:30):
Why'd you pay him?
Speaker 11 (01:30:31):
Right?
Speaker 7 (01:30:31):
He still has another run to work with. You do
understand that, right, And what's the job of the closer
to close the game out with you ahead and put
it out and win? Yeah, with an s still a save? Yes,
it's I mean we want him to throw nothing but
strikes get everybody out. Yeah, we all love the clean
innings and perfect games, but that's not realistic. And realistic
is They've exceeded realistic expectations already this year in.
Speaker 9 (01:30:54):
The first half.
Speaker 8 (01:30:54):
They're well ahead of not just wins and losses the
wins paces, but well ahead of the optics of what
we expected from them.
Speaker 5 (01:31:03):
And it's nice. You just can't they can't think like that.
We can.
Speaker 8 (01:31:07):
They got to think like, well, we need to win
this division by twenty games.
Speaker 5 (01:31:10):
Sure, and that's got to be the approach.
Speaker 7 (01:31:13):
Well, I mean, I get frustrations but it's also too
I mean, but you got to get over them quick
in a one game Thingpive absolutely. I mean that's what
I think kind of you know, boils into all of this,
is that your nineteen games above five hundred, you're six
and a half games up in the division. I understand
that things can change. We saw it go a good
way for the Astros last year. They're trying to guard
against that now.
Speaker 8 (01:31:33):
Hence why at six and a half you want to
make take every advantage to extend that a couple more
games with some help from some friends against Seattle in
these next five games, and you go take care of
your business.
Speaker 5 (01:31:43):
So when you go into the All Star, breaker's saying
we're up eight.
Speaker 9 (01:31:46):
And a half.
Speaker 5 (01:31:46):
So we're Yankee fans right now.
Speaker 8 (01:31:49):
Whatever it takes, I gas, whatever it takes. I'll root
on anybody that's the closest person the division. I'll root
for that team. I don't care if it's the hated
team that you can't stand. Of course you're rooting for
them because you want this extended seven eight, nine games
if you can possibly pull it off, and then guess
what happens that rest you were talking about every now
(01:32:10):
and then we can give them an extra one.
Speaker 5 (01:32:12):
So problem.
Speaker 7 (01:32:13):
Speaking of one of the groups we just mentioned right there,
they're topical because somebody that's associated with them has a
dire warning that I think even Astros fans could subscribe to.
We'll discuss it is the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 10 (01:32:27):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (01:32:28):
Also check this out.
Speaker 11 (01:32:29):
I should have warned you if Sewn only cares about
cold hard.
Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (01:32:39):
A lot of good money and resources going to help
people who need it in the worst way right now.
And I still too. You know, we'll get to what
I teased here in a second. But Scott Ruskin, the
guy that rescued those girls, I mean, I saw yesterday
on social media and I can't echo this enough. Not
another meal, not another drink, nothing. Don't even charge the
(01:33:03):
guy taxes for the rest of his life. Yeah, this
guy's done. You know how I am about the term
civic duty. Whenever you hear somebody say it was their
civic duty, immediately discount anything they did because it was
more for them than it was for anybody else. This
guy did it for these kids and for these people,
And there's a lot of happy families today because of
this guy what he.
Speaker 8 (01:33:22):
Signed up for, right right, didn't back down and know
going in that you're going to be in those situations
you hope never I'm sure it's the same as a
police officer. They probably hope they never have to draw
their gun right right, in a situation, they probably hope
they don't. But if you're saving a family or they
keeping people out of harm's way, hen's why you learn
to do it. It's the same here. This is we're fortunate,
(01:33:44):
in unfortunate circumstance and horrific circumstances that we have a
group and groups of people and guys like last name Ruskin, Right,
he liked that first responder and Coastguard rescue mission to
be able to go in there and put his life online.
But he signed up for it, and that's what he knows.
You just hope you never have to use it, but
(01:34:06):
you know you will. And God bless him and all
those that are continued to go through this. I'm sure
they're exhausted, but you know what, the Good Lord finds
will give you some extra energy when you're battling through
this trying to find everybody, So not only for closure
if somebody has been lost, but also I always hold
out the hope that there's a miracle going to happen.
(01:34:26):
You're gonna find more alive. And I'm sure he did too,
and saved plenty of them. Well, and that's also to
and he'll probably look at it like it's never enough
because he didn't save them all right at their approach.
But God bless folks like that. One hundred and four
confirmed dead right now.
Speaker 7 (01:34:39):
I remember hearing that, oddly enough, it was that Rescue
Swimmer movie that Kostner and Ashton Kutcher did, and Kucher
asked him something like, you know, hey, how many age
you save? He goes, I never remember those. It's always
the ones that I didn't save that I remember.
Speaker 8 (01:34:55):
Yeah, that's exactly who's counting. On the good side, you
expect to save them all. That's at your calls.
Speaker 9 (01:35:00):
And it's like athletes and wins and losses. I don't
remember the wins very well, but I sure as hell
remember the losses and the struggles. I'm sure, in a
much more important situation than sports, that if you don't
save them all, I'm sure, even though if it was
out of your control, I'm sure that there's that feeling
of that you didn't accomplish what you wanted to accomplish,
(01:35:21):
even though it would be completely out of your control.
But that's why they're built different, and that's why they
put their life on the line.
Speaker 8 (01:35:26):
And you never want these things to come up, but unfortunately,
in life they do, and mother Nature is a powerful
force and it hit his hearted.
Speaker 5 (01:35:36):
It will look back and.
Speaker 8 (01:35:38):
Think that this is one of the more devastating things
that's ever happened. And I again cannot fathom what those
parents are going through. And for some on social media
that are claiming our playing that and when unfortunately there's
two of them from right here in Houston that have
(01:35:58):
been all over social media that are a disgrace and
an embarrassment to this community and to these kids and
to race and to religion and to just being They're
just bad human beings. And you guys know who I'm
talking about. Okay, If not search all over Twitter trash
(01:36:18):
is what that is. If you can't, if you can't
get through and get over who you voted for when
it comes to saving kids, This had absolutely zero to
do with who you voted for. Mother Nature didn't care
God didn't all of a sudden say, you know, I
think I'm gonna punish somebody who voted different of that
or because well, because the election turned out, and I
(01:36:40):
think I'm gonna just keep a big storm on you.
So you guys can all make it about race. This
has nothing to do with it. And if that's your
first thought, you're just a horrible, horrible human being. And
unfortunately for the city of Houston and this area in
Texas and that there's a couple of them, and probably
more than that, that sure as hell don't represent the
majority of the world people feel about this tragedy and
(01:37:02):
have used it in.
Speaker 9 (01:37:02):
The wrong way.
Speaker 8 (01:37:03):
And you know what, karma has a really bad way
of working out, and I hope it doesn't come in
the form of these with these kids had to suffer.
But I've got zero compassion for anybody who blames this
on politics, or on race, or on anything else, because
it is it is.
Speaker 9 (01:37:20):
They're gross and.
Speaker 8 (01:37:22):
Those two in particular are pigs, flat out pigs, and
and any flac they get for what they've said about this,
and with these grieving families and for those who don't
even have families that are grieving for friends and significant
others and their families to say what they've said. They
are just there's a there's a safe place in hell
(01:37:43):
for these people. Well, when I say say a safe
place in hell meaning you're gonna go in there and
you're there's a seat waiting for you to wish this one.
These people awful trash and if you know them.
Speaker 9 (01:37:55):
You probably choose better friends. Awful.
Speaker 5 (01:37:58):
I can't it.
Speaker 8 (01:38:00):
It is the fact that we were even discussing this
is sick. But the fact that we're still that instead
of support and if you if you're not, if you're
not moving it forward and helping, you're in the way.
And then when you throw your verse, has she been
out there to help? No, obviously she hasn't, because why
she thinks this is deserved. A couple of them, Yeah, trash.
(01:38:21):
It's complete trash. And if you know them and you're Sean,
that's somebody I know good. They're trash, period. Shout out
to Mattress, Mac Gallery Furniture.
Speaker 7 (01:38:29):
No surprise, they're already pitching in supplies everything else.
Speaker 5 (01:38:33):
Yeah, and you know he always did.
Speaker 8 (01:38:37):
Do you think Mac would make a decision based on
who you voted for and saving a life? I don't
care what well, I can just tell you wait when
you're doing that, who your family or what happened that
has nothing to do that.
Speaker 5 (01:38:51):
We're talking about children and their families here.
Speaker 8 (01:38:54):
You you have got to step outside and then the
stress that these families are going through and the people
trying to save them. Now, Mattress Mack has got one
goal in this to ease the pain that these people
are going through and to save whatever you can. And
there's there's a whole bunch of other people that feel
the same way. Every now and then you run into
trash out there. As I mentioned, those two females on
(01:39:15):
social media are at the top of it to turn
this into what they've turned it into. They ought to
be ashamed and they are disgraceful. Mattress smacks into everything,
but that the best for sure.
Speaker 7 (01:39:27):
And Scott Ruskin back to him an interview he did.
The kids were so brave and tough. If you guys
are listening, you guys were the best. I'm sorry this
happened to you guys, but you guys were so brave
and tough. It made me a better rescuer because you
were acting so bravely.
Speaker 5 (01:39:43):
It's perspective.
Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
Man.
Speaker 8 (01:39:44):
I mean when you when you see the photos and
the twin girls who passed away, I just it gets
it's hard to talk about. I mean, we talk about
it and do whatever you can to help, but you
feel helpless. But I just can't fathom what those families
are going through.
Speaker 9 (01:39:59):
I can't.
Speaker 8 (01:39:59):
It's hard enough from a distance and not being able
to help, but thinking what would you do? What would
you do? I don't know. I it'd be hard for
me to handle, dude, it really would, and I'm sure
a lot. And July will never be the same for
these families, not alone the rest of their lives. But
when this time comes around and people are celebrating, that's
(01:40:22):
this will never be a celebration for these families again,
and for those who tried to save lives and did.
Speaker 7 (01:40:26):
I almost kind of feel like this weekend you felt
that all the way around, Like it was, Hey, it's
July fourth weekend, it's holiday all that. But I mean
I even think like here, it just hits so close
to home that people were just kind of like, maybe
not this year. Ye well and rightfully so, rightfully so,
And I'm not gonna and nor should we begrudge anybody
who did celebrate with their family that sitting in Cape Cod.
(01:40:48):
I mean, I get it, but man, we got some
really good people and the people who are heinous that
we've just talked about do not represent the majority of people. Now,
media are or social media may paint that there's more,
and I'm sure there is, but the majority of people
are sick over this, and the families, I mean, their
(01:41:10):
lives will never be the same. Well, I mean, again,
what do we talk about on a lighter note earlier? Oh,
that's just my opinion. Well, it doesn't mean that it's right.
And then guess what your opinions can get you fired. Yes,
that's part of it.
Speaker 8 (01:41:21):
Well why would that your opinion?
Speaker 9 (01:41:24):
That's fine?
Speaker 8 (01:41:24):
And when they say, well, it's freedom of speech, yeah,
but it's also their freedom to make it.
Speaker 5 (01:41:28):
You want the employer to say, I don't want you
as an.
Speaker 8 (01:41:31):
Employee, freedom to say whatever you want. Yeah, you also
have the freedom to not show up for work. And
if you don't show up for work for three days
without an excuse, guess what, you won't have a job.
And if you have the freedom to speech your speech,
you've have a freedom to say. It doesn't mean when
you overload your mouth with your ass and we have
to accept it, Okay. And when it comes to this,
anything that comes out of anybody's mouth that's anything but
(01:41:55):
caring and empathy and being just human, being a good person,
Anything that comes out of your mouth that isn't in
support of finding these people and and doing all we
can to help them get through this. Whoever that whatever,
your friend, or whatever, anything or just shut up and pray,
(01:42:17):
whatever it is that you do. But to do some
of the things they do and blame it on the
things they said, looking for a political opportunity, for some
clout and to get clicks, it's a bloody embarrassment. It's
an embarrassment, and they're disgraceful. And thank goodness for all
the good people. There's far more of those than there
are the very few that make you make you shake
your head, say, how is anybody born with this kind
(01:42:38):
of DNA that would wish this on somebody?
Speaker 7 (01:42:40):
Stupidity is tolerated. Now, I've said it numerous times. It's
almost a oh, well, that's just who they are. They
don't know any better. Well, guess what part of being
an adult is you know better?
Speaker 8 (01:42:50):
And well, lives have been lost for kids that had
nothing but an incredible future ahead of them, and their
families now have to live with that forever. And then
read this trash that some of these people say on
social media.
Speaker 9 (01:43:02):
Shame on them, man.
Speaker 7 (01:43:03):
That's why, that's why I'm going to focus on people
like Scott Ruskin, mattress Mack, others who are.
Speaker 8 (01:43:08):
Actually donate and care and put elbow grease into going
and put their lives on the line, no doubt, because
no matter what words we say, it's it's these families'
lives have been disrupted and put into chaos. How they
handle it. Obviously, ten years from now, it's still it's
never going away. No, you hope it gets you. Hope
(01:43:28):
it gets more under that they get more comfort going on,
knowing that the twins daughters were together and maybe they
were able to comfort each other in a quick moment.
I don't know you do how whatever you find comfort in.
But the one thing I know about Texas, the rally,
the rally and cry that we have in this state,
I think is on parallel. There's good people in every state,
(01:43:49):
but I'll put Texas up against any when it comes
to caring, and those those two ladies from Houston that
we know well have been you know well documented. They're
not a representative of what a human being is. Trash
and you got people and you should treat that trash accordingly.
Speaker 7 (01:44:03):
I mean, like I said, I mean, you got people
from others. I've shouted out the United Cagean Navy. I mean,
I said, they always post.
Speaker 8 (01:44:09):
There's gonna be a plenty of people that are going
to make it, make a difference that you'll never hear about.
Speaker 7 (01:44:13):
And that's okay. Well, so I mean most of them
wanted that. That's exactly right, saying like this is somebody
you just can't hide. You're raising and you're delivering good,
but you're not out there pining for that. You're out
there pining for how can we find a miracle and
make this more h Well, if you can find comfort
in this at some point, if you're a fan, I
(01:44:34):
don't know how they're ever going to but God works,
they'll they're going to get through it. But trying to
think about how they're going to get through, because I'm
saying they are, because if you said I was going
to get through, I wouldn't know what my answer would
be for you.
Speaker 9 (01:44:47):
Right now, Dan if it was me in their situation.
Speaker 8 (01:44:49):
So God bless those families, man and all those who
help absolutely.
Speaker 7 (01:44:53):
And we've got the link posted to the fund that
is going to help the victims there in Central Texas
on our social media accounts at sports Talk seven ninety
on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram. We could find it everywhere there
and also sports Talks seven ninety dot com. Let's get
back into some baseball discussion because I mentioned a dire
warning that even Astros fans could listen to.
Speaker 5 (01:45:14):
We'll do that next.
Speaker 7 (01:45:15):
Right here, it is Sean Salisbury show Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:45:18):
The seven ninety.
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Let's see because I saw it on Twitter.
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Yeah, so fifty ninety was coming up on eighty. Yeah,
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Speaker 7 (01:46:45):
Underrated, funny show, too sneaky, there there were some there
were so many things in there that you're like, I
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but he sure snuck it in there.
Speaker 5 (01:46:53):
There was no doubt.
Speaker 7 (01:46:54):
And then Tony si Rico too is I listened to
the Talking Sopranos podcast least did I haven't in a while,
but it's Michael Imperially, you played Christopher and Stephen Scharipa
who played Bobby Baclaw, and they talked about Tony Serriico
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guy and he turned it down, and they're like, why
why would you turn that down? He goes, I don't
(01:47:15):
like taking orders. At least he's honest. At least he's honest,
And it's like Joe Pistone, the guy that was Donnie Brasco,
was recently on Rogan and his line was, I didn't
know if I was going to be made or whacked
that day, So dealing that world a tough.
Speaker 5 (01:47:33):
Way to wake up. Am I gonna do?
Speaker 8 (01:47:35):
Is somebody gonna take me out and take a shovel
to my head and bury me alive? Or am I
gonna be a maid man and I get to make
more money and call the shouts?
Speaker 7 (01:47:41):
That's why That's why Mob movies it always cracks me up.
If people all got really sad at the end, I'm like,
of course it got sad. Everybody either died or they
went to prison. That's how that life is.
Speaker 8 (01:47:51):
That's going in, you know, that's the way it's going
to be more than likely coming out. Michael frenzies, right.
And if and if not, guess what you were. You
were an informed and you're you're probably under your head's
on a swivel the rest of your life. So, I mean,
you know, going in, there's about three or four different
things are going to happen. You just hope you're in
the right land for the one that does happen. M
(01:48:11):
and you get out of it alive. He turned yeah,
he turned rat.
Speaker 9 (01:48:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:48:15):
Now, you don't want that applied to you when you're.
Speaker 9 (01:48:17):
In the mafia.
Speaker 7 (01:48:18):
Now, even when you're on the other side, you know,
it's it's one of those that it sticks with you.
Speaker 5 (01:48:24):
But ye, anyway, family, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 7 (01:48:27):
Once you're into this family, there's no getting out. Seven
two five, seven ninety is the number to get in
on the phone lines. Do you want to get back
into the Astros conversation because mentioned that dire warning. I
do think it's one that Astros fans need to listen
close to because I think it applies.
Speaker 5 (01:48:44):
We'll talk about it right here. Sean Salisbury Show.
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Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.
Speaker 7 (01:51:05):
Talking a little bit of Astros here, and you know, Sean,
we've talked about it all the time, of retooling, rebuilding,
all of those different things that fan bases throw out,
and I think that we do it a lot here
in Houston because I don't think anybody out there is
pining for the full on rebuild at any time that
we saw the Astros do in twenty ten. Because you
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also have to remember it was building up for that.
The farm system was terrible. You had aging stars in
Lance Berkman, Royo's while at Hunter Pence few other guys
that we're not going to lead you back to where
you wanted to be, and that was making it to
the World Series, and as a matter of fact, since
they made it to the five World Series, they hadn't
been back to the postseason until they got to the
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Divisional round in twenty fifteen. But that seemingly is thrown
out as a possibility quite a bit. And I'm bringing
up both of those are words retooling and rebuilding because
Michael Kay, who does the TV broadcast for the Yankees
on Yes Network, also host an afternoon drive radio show
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up there in New York. He was talking about that
very thing where he had talked about Yankee fans saying, oh,
we got to be sellers at the deadline, where it's
it's just not our way this year, and he goes,
you're three games back of the Al East lead, like,
still a lot of baseball left to go.
Speaker 5 (01:52:23):
Let's go there.
Speaker 7 (01:52:24):
But then it gets to the other R word, and
I feel like, again for some Astros fans who throw
it out at times, this could be a dire warning
for you.
Speaker 5 (01:52:33):
So, so what's your question to me? It was audio
that we're supposed to hear from Michael Kay. Oh, okay, I.
Speaker 13 (01:52:40):
Love, by the way Yankee fans, and so oh they
should be rebuilt.
Speaker 11 (01:52:44):
They should rebuild, reload. Really, you couldn't take losing in
the World Series.
Speaker 13 (01:52:50):
You went to the World Series last year and now
you've had a bad three week stretch and you want
the manager in GM fired and you want to reload,
and you're gonna be able to handle that.
Speaker 11 (01:53:00):
You can't handle losing in the World Series.
Speaker 13 (01:53:05):
Imagine finishing last in the American League East. Imagine some
people need their head screwed on a little bit better.
Speaker 7 (01:53:17):
And again, I mean where I've even seen some people
calling for, hey, should we trade fromber should we entertain trading?
Even I'm trying to, well.
Speaker 5 (01:53:26):
They've tried to.
Speaker 8 (01:53:27):
There's a bunch of people don't want your don traded,
right because they think because they think he's injury.
Speaker 5 (01:53:31):
Probably got we got the question yesterday once.
Speaker 8 (01:53:33):
Again, your opinions, People with their opinion always all always
validate your opinion. I don't have to agree with it,
nor do I have to say it's an opinion that
I care about, But nor do they have to care
about mine or yours. But opinion is just that opinion,
and they're kind of like everybody's got one right, But
to me, Michael Kay's right. And I understand that every
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day's like I said, every days, you're judging every day different.
That's why we come on every day, do a different
show every day, do something. I mean, it's going to change.
That's that's called sports, and that's why we love it
because you really never know what the outcome is going
to be, unless you know, we know what the outcome
is going to be. For Colorado this year, they're not
making the playoffs. Okay, we've already decided that. But in
the Yankees case, I've never understood, and maybe this is
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archaic thinking. First of all, don't tell a player on
most teams that you should be selling when you're in
the hunt, because basically, when you start to sell, can
you imagine selling in your three games out of first place,
or your three games up in first place, or you're
right around, can you imagine selling, because aren't you.
Speaker 5 (01:54:42):
Doing a disservice?
Speaker 8 (01:54:43):
Aren't you basically telling your franch ay, we're three games
we quit on this year?
Speaker 7 (01:54:47):
Well, the Astros benefited from it, remember when they got
Kendall Graveman. You have the Mariners players who are like,
what are we doing? We're in the hunt. We're trying
to catch these guys. So if you're going to tell
me that every year is different and we're trying to
win all the time. I'm not talking about Astro, I'm
talking about overall.
Speaker 5 (01:55:00):
In sports. You can't you can't have both.
Speaker 8 (01:55:04):
You can't say, well, we care so much, but we're
going to sell because only three games that you're basically
saying you don't trust the players on this roster to
make up three games and get it done after in
the Yankees case, they were in the World Series, I
mean just that quickly. Hell, look, I mean now, I understand.
Look what happened to Nationals. Both the manager and the
GM both fired, and they're not very good, but they
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still got a ring on their ear least, you know,
does Martinez have one? He was a manager at the time,
and obviously Rizzo was as well. The point is in
this case, it's it's absurd. If I'm within seven eight games,
five games, six games, and my team, I got a
good roster and I'm getting healthy, why would I sell?
I'm not And I know people I think different. As
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a player, I didn't care about four years from now,
and as I sit here today, I don't give a
fuzzy rats ass about the Astros. Right today in a
twenty twenty five seas I don't care what twenty thirty
two looks like. I don't care. I don't even know
what twenty thirty two looks like in my life. Why
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would I give a rats ass what it looks like. Well,
if you got this guy, if we go and trade
it for this guy, imagine what it's going to be
like in twenty thirty five. All the while, people are
bitching the eight ears that you've had to suffer because
you sold. Now, there's a time and a place for it.
A fire sale comes once in a while, or some
where you've decided crap, can you're selling whatever it is.
I get those, but it's absolutely ridiculous. If I'm within
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five games of you, that's two series. That's a five
game losing streak for you, and a five game winning
streak for me that I'm tied for first place. I
never bail out on a season unless the season's been done,
you know what I mean. You're mathematically eliminated, or you're
the Colorado Rockies. There what in another month, they will
be mathematically eliminated. But when I'm within five games or
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so and I'm the Yankees or I'm the Astros or
I'm the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (01:56:57):
I'm not selling for squat. I'm not selling for squad.
Speaker 8 (01:57:01):
I just don't understand the thought process of well we
quit on it, because let's worry about twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (01:57:05):
I don't care about next.
Speaker 8 (01:57:06):
Year right now. I'll worry about getting fromber when this
season is over. I've got one goal and only one.
That's not just to win the division. If I'm the Astros,
my goal is simple, here win the championship, and if
we are in within a few games, the first place
I trust. See I'm sending the messages. I trust my
guys to get it done.
Speaker 3 (01:57:23):
Now.
Speaker 8 (01:57:23):
If you're just a turd and you're not any good,
and you're overpaid, and you're just not producing and you're
a bad attitude, then cut them, move them on DFA
and whatever you got to do. But I'm not selling. Well,
if we sell now twenty thirty, I'll look really good.
Speaker 5 (01:57:38):
Guess what.
Speaker 9 (01:57:39):
I don't care about twenty thirty. I'll care about it
when I'm within straight now.
Speaker 8 (01:57:42):
When it comes to a big contract, well, I signed
a guy to a fourteen year deal, well, twenty thirty four,
he may not be very good. I get how we
think about that, but when it comes to winning, I
have you told me a spring training If you're the Yankees,
the Astros, Dodge, we got a chance to win the
whole thing, live on it now. If the Astros were
twenty seven games out by the All Star break, you
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probably would trade. You probably would take on trades for Fromber.
You'd at least listen, you know, if you didn't think
you could pay him. But I'm also at it. If
you think you can pay him, and this is who
he is, this guy, you pay him or you try
to keep him here if it's reasonable. I just I
don't think like the I'm not worried. We spend too
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much time worried about twenty forty. I ain't worried about
twenty forty in anything. I'm worried about can you get
through this All Star Game, win these next three or
four or five games of the five left, and get
yourself ready and go. If you're the Yankees and Michael
K's one dred percent correct, how quite frankly, how stupid
can your opinion be to say sell, to just say sell, Yeah,
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let's say just sell. Why I got a share we
were in the world sit I got a chance won
the World Series. We're pretty good, getting healthy, and everybody's
trying to put some wins together. I've never understood the
philosophy of preparing for twenty especially I'm talking about on
a championship caliber team like the Yankees, like the Ashes.
I understand if you're the Colorado Rockies, why you're gonna
clear House Well, Washington Nationals, I get it, But I
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don't get it if you're the Atlanta Braves and you're
within five games, decide, you know what, let's move like
four of these guys. Now, if you're just cheap and
don't want to pay their contract, fine, But then you're
also telling me you don't care about the team. I
care about the guys that are here now. I'm not
worried about who's going to be here in twenty thirty
five and or twenty thirty or twenty twenty eight for
that matter. Championship and if you compartmentalized, every season to
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me is just a one year contrac or you're a
fighting for your friggin baseball life to go win it.
I've never understood the philosophy of we're close, let's sell.
Speaker 5 (01:59:39):
That tells me.
Speaker 8 (01:59:40):
To me, that's a bottom line thing, because you know what,
seven years from now, if you sell and you're not
any good, you're just gonna hear the bitching. For me,
I want to go all When I got a chance
to go all in and win, I'd rather buy them sell.
Speaker 5 (01:59:51):
That's my philosophy.
Speaker 7 (01:59:53):
Well, I mean, in fairness, a lot of the talk
has gone away from even some of those Astros fans.
Speaker 8 (01:59:58):
That I'm actually referring to the Yank But there has
been the talk. And listen, if you're semi saying you're
not wanting to ship four guys from this roster because
you're just not, I understand opinion.
Speaker 5 (02:00:10):
It doesn't mean it's right.
Speaker 7 (02:00:11):
Well, and it's also too there's zero guarantee that it's
going to pan out. Ask Pirates fans, Ask Marlins fans,
ask a lot of different fan bases out there that
have been sold this for the longest time about oh,
it'll pay off in the long run.
Speaker 8 (02:00:22):
Well, you're still waiting in some cases, and you know what,
I wanted to pay off in the short run. Okay,
on the show, because in twenty thirty half this roster
won't be the same. That's fine, it will not be
the same in three years we've seen this anxiety. It
will not be the same. It'll be there'll be seventy
percent new dudes on this roster. Jesus, the way it goes,
go get a championship. And I think that well last year,
remember we had the question you trade Bregman. They were
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all in on winning a championship when they could have
traded him and got more value for him. And that's
why I love this franchise. They're here to win first
and ask questions later, not the other way around. Wow,
what about twenty thirty twos? Luxury tax said, then it's
seven years away. We'll be okay, We'll find way to
maneuver around it. So I'm as a play Maybe it's
just a player. I never got into a game thinking
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can't wait to lose this one. Can't wait till three
years from now. Held three years from now, half these
guys may not be in the league. I'm being facetious,
but can get my point right crazy. I want to win,
and I want to win now, and I'll sacrifice everything
win and now to struggle for three years.
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We've got to SEC Media Days coming up next week,
and of course I, me and you will be out
in Atlanta for that All Star game going on too.
But talked about a little bit earlier. You had a
lineup last night that had one through five that looks
pretty similar to what it usually is. Obviously no Christian
Walker with the paternity leave, but you get the number
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six hitter, Cooper Hummel, the number seven hitter, Taylor Trammel,
eight Zach and then nine Kennedy Corona. I mean, I
understand a loss is a loss and it's gonna frustrate people,
But what are we doing here?
Speaker 12 (02:03:07):
Yeah, it's the sugar len Astros. I mean, that's that's
what they That's what they are right now. That's what
they're gonna be this week. I predicted that yesterday, you know,
on with with Matt and or Austin, I was saying,
I think they feel so good coming out of the
last week where you swept the Dodgers, you beat the Cubs,
you beat you know, like, you beat the Phillies, you
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did all these great things. And then you come back
for the home stretch six games to go before the
All Star break, and it's the Guardians and the Rangers.
I think they feel pretty good about kind of catching
their breath this week. And so that's why I wasn't
surprised where they go. You know what, We're gonna give
Jake Myers an extra day. We're gonna give this guy
an extra day. You know what, Let's get Kennedy Corona
in there, get his feet wet. So it's not to
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say that they're throwing in the towel and quitting because
they fought last night. They tied it up and battled back.
But it just kind of that's the vibe I kind
of get with these games this week and.
Speaker 8 (02:03:59):
I and if that is the vibe, if that was real,
I hate it now. I don't hate that the the
because the other guy has been great for this team
this year. I'm not It's not even that I don't
trust those guys to go in and play tremmel and
to hit a home to play good baseball. But I'm
not forget the rapper, the person, the mindset. As I
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told you earlier, I think it would be a major
mistake to take a sigh of relief five games to
go before the other we play them and they count.
What if Okay, let me ask you this. What if
you go one and five and Seattle goes five and one,
how many games they gain on him?
Speaker 5 (02:04:38):
Four? That would be.
Speaker 7 (02:04:42):
Three game lead within three to start with them up
there in Seattle.
Speaker 9 (02:04:46):
Why wouldn't you treat this just like you did going
to Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 8 (02:04:50):
That's what the All Star breaks for Rest. That doesn't
doesn't mean one hundred and forty pitches for a starting pitcher.
But I'm rolling out what I think gives me the
best chance to win with my healthy players every day.
And if that means Tremmel, great, If that means Dubon great,
If that means Jake Myers great, Cam Smith doesn't need
he rest, He's a kid. Play him. I I I
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just am adamantly against taking that deep sigh. And I
don't even know if the Astles are doing this, and
I don't think right, but you can't, you can't get casual.
Speaker 11 (02:05:24):
And maybe you can't last night.
Speaker 12 (02:05:26):
It's okay tonight the regulars are all back in there
and it's okay, let's let's we gotta get serious here.
Speaker 5 (02:05:32):
But I don't know.
Speaker 12 (02:05:33):
It's just kind of the vibe I got with him,
uh with you, Well, have they earned it? I mean,
you know, I'm not saying, but earned what earned a
little bit of a We don't keep that of the
great opponent. No, I get it. I'm just and again
I'm not saying just throwing the towel, but I'm just saying, like,
could Jake, like, if absolutely necessary, could Jake Myers have
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played last night?
Speaker 8 (02:05:55):
Maybe you know, if he's not healthy, don't play him.
If he's healthy, why am I resting him? I got
the All Star break, he's not going the All Star Game.
I know those four bats are a bitch, but come
on now, So so you both are sit on the
opposite side of me that it's okay to breathe a
sigh and say, even if we go two and four,
we're good.
Speaker 12 (02:06:13):
Well, I know this. I got Hunter Brown tonight, I
feel pretty damn good.
Speaker 8 (02:06:16):
Well, you could probably play with four guys behind him.
Okay that I get.
Speaker 12 (02:06:19):
Yeah, Saturday, you love from so you feel pretty good
about that one.
Speaker 11 (02:06:22):
So those are two right now?
Speaker 8 (02:06:23):
Okay, what if all of a sudden they said, what
if all of a sudden they said, you know what,
Hunter's had an All Star.
Speaker 9 (02:06:30):
First half, Let's give him a break, throw him two innings.
Speaker 5 (02:06:34):
Or not pitch him.
Speaker 8 (02:06:35):
I think he'd want to go in there and fight him.
I don't think he's taking them ount tonight thinking we
got some cushion. I think he's going out there to
mow your ass down. Plus those guys that they're playing
that that Seattle. Let's see who do we got after
Cleveland the Ranger?
Speaker 5 (02:06:51):
You got the Range? I don't.
Speaker 8 (02:06:52):
For me, that's your head into the All Star Break
playing that team. I want to bury their ass whoever
it's with. My point is it's not necessarily the bodies,
it's the approach. I don't think you can be casual.
Five games may mean the difference in October or September.
It's just I for this.
Speaker 12 (02:07:11):
I mean, we got guys like Colton Gordon, you know,
young guys that are being taxed more than they've ever
been tax I mean, don't you feel like, I mean,
there's a certain point where you're gonna have to kind
of give some guys a little bit of a break.
Because camp Smith is going to play the most baseball
he's ever played in his career this year, most games.
He's never played this many in college or you know,
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barely played in the minors. So I think that's part
of it too. I think part of it is kind
of we've hit the halfway point. Let's kind of give
her by a little bit of a break.
Speaker 8 (02:07:41):
Catch breath now, two day a day off, no problem, myers.
If he was banged up a little bit needed, I
get it. I'm talking about fully healthy gainst and no,
I actually don't have no, no, offense. I know it's
more games than he's ever played, but I don't have like, man,
what if we wear Cam Smith out if he was six,
if he was thirty nine, different story. He's twenty two
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years old or whatever, twenty one years old, whatever he is.
Speaker 12 (02:08:04):
Well the problem I always had with that argument too,
is like, eventually you're gonna have to write so it's
always like this. You know, it's like a starring quarterback
in the NFL. He's plays most games he's ever played. Okay, well,
when is he if we give him a break? Now,
when is he gonna get to that point where he
could go the full?
Speaker 5 (02:08:18):
Right?
Speaker 11 (02:08:19):
Right?
Speaker 9 (02:08:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:08:19):
How do you build him up to?
Speaker 10 (02:08:20):
Now?
Speaker 8 (02:08:20):
I listen pitchers at eighty nine pitches, ninety pitches starting
to labor a little bit. Get him out, yeah, Or
guy's got a little hammy, get him out, don't play him.
Speaker 9 (02:08:29):
I get that. Like I said, for me, it's not
the bodies.
Speaker 8 (02:08:32):
I just am trying to guard against the mindset that
that the next six games last night, in the next
five are hall past night, our hall pass games. Hey,
it won't really matter. It won't matter if we lose
and they lose, but it will matter if you get
four games gained on you because you're The approach is catchup.
I just don't see Dana Brown and Joe Aspota, depending
on the bodies. I don't think they're going in like, well,
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the All Star Break started yesterday.
Speaker 7 (02:08:56):
Well, I mean, and I get what you're saying though, too,
but I mean to also Gore's point about I want
this team playing their best baseball in August and September.
Speaker 8 (02:09:04):
How come do you are you assured that that casually
rolling in the All Star Break is gonna give them? No,
it doesn't guarantee. And why would I take somebody out
of the lineup that's sizzling. I'm milking it for all
I get. Listen, four days off that they'll get off
Monday Tuesday for those that are playing Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
and get traveling on Thursday to get to their ball.
But wherever they go in baseball on Friday. I mean,
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it's it, and there's neither. There's not a right or
wrong answer for me. The right answer, though, is, if
you're healthy, we schedule one hundred and sixty two of them.
I'm gonna give you the days off when necessary. The
All Star Break gives me. Pitching's a little different. Of course,
I don't want to tax them open. But for me,
if I was a player, I'm your starting right fielder.
How you feel, what do you mean how I feel?
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I'll see you in the lineup for the next five days.
That that's how I feel. And it's just I just
and I know you want to. You got to get
guys rest along the year on the scheduled days off.
And it's not even the guy, it's the approach. I
can if if you've checked out and you're thinking All
Star break, you will play like it. In anything, you
will play like you've checked out. And I assure you
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if you take a casual somewhere somehow, it will it
will it will backfire on you. You may not win
them all, even if you're going all in. My point is,
I think it's a mindset, not necessarily who the bodies.
Speaker 9 (02:10:18):
Are that are out there.
Speaker 5 (02:10:19):
Real quick here over under August first, you're on back? Yes?
Speaker 11 (02:10:22):
Or no?
Speaker 12 (02:10:24):
August first? August first. He still hasn't picked up a
bat yet, right.
Speaker 5 (02:10:29):
Give me the over. I told you, I.
Speaker 12 (02:10:32):
Told I'd said the last week with you guys, I said,
let me know, like when he's when he's in the lineup,
then I'll get excited. But like he's on, he's he's
out of side, out of mind to me right now,
like I'm I'm moving on without your.
Speaker 11 (02:10:45):
Whenever.
Speaker 5 (02:10:45):
That's choice, you have no choice.
Speaker 12 (02:10:48):
I couldn't get it over the semantics of the the
statement that was released last week, where it was like, hey,
Astros have released some encouraging news for your Like, okay,
what's the encouraging news. They're like, well, he had some
he saw a new specialist and he did some injections
in his hand. It's like, oh okay, what's the same
injections he had before? Oh okay, so this had this before. Okay,
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and good news. That fracture it's basically not even a
problem anymore. It's not even giving him pain. Well, was
it fully healed? Well, we can't tell you. But the
pain he's having he is not from the fracture. Okay,
Well that's great. What's the pain from, Well, the pain
is from the inflammation.
Speaker 9 (02:11:25):
What the hell's the inflammation from the fracture.
Speaker 12 (02:11:27):
Well, the inflammation he was having before, because you know,
he would hit and he'd feel good, but then the
next day the inflammation and then pain, and it's like,
so nothing's improved, Like we're in this like circle of
like you keep telling me he's fine, but like, well
we had to shut him down.
Speaker 11 (02:11:42):
Why did you shut him out because of inflammation?
Speaker 5 (02:11:44):
Why does he have an inflammation? I don't know.
Speaker 12 (02:11:45):
It's like it's we're talking in circles here and so
that when I read that, I just like they called
it encouraging, and I'm like, I don't know what's encouraging
about that. All it is was a new doctor came
in and said, yep, it's inflammation. Well how do you
fix inflammation?
Speaker 8 (02:11:58):
And then you know what I could take from that is,
are you telling me the Jordons.
Speaker 9 (02:12:04):
Can't handle pain?
Speaker 8 (02:12:06):
If I'm saying, well, the inflament and you don't normally
if it's inflammation, you don't shut them down.
Speaker 5 (02:12:12):
You take a day.
Speaker 8 (02:12:13):
You know, I said, the next day you come try
it again. Rights, That's how inflammation. The reason I could
speak expert on that is because from surgery after surgery,
lived what's from scar tissue to inflammation?
Speaker 5 (02:12:24):
I get it.
Speaker 8 (02:12:26):
But if you're giving the shot, you're giving a shot
for what to be pain free or to take like
certain medicines that lessen the inflammation. We know what those are,
and ice, ice is one of those two, the great elixir. Right,
and then so you're you're one hundred percent correct. What
is the pecking order of how didn't one begat the other?
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That begat the other that the fracture started? Then work
and it bothers you and then all of a sudden,
well it's inflame because there's a sore area, so it
gets inflamed. Now that it's healing down there, the inflammation
is still there. So you take a little time off. Okay,
now why you're coming back? He went out and hit
batty predd. Well what's wrong? Well, it's inflamed, but you
shut him down because it's the pain or is it inflammation?
(02:13:07):
Is it just because it looks bigger? He's got to
cankle down? Is you know when you got to do
big ankles? Like, well, is it blown out? Well, it's
it's bothering him, but the ankle's healed, but it's still inflammation.
Give him a shot before the game would go play
with ass that's my right.
Speaker 12 (02:13:20):
I think it was two months ago Dana said that.
They're like, yeah, I mean he's doing fine.
Speaker 5 (02:13:23):
Like he was.
Speaker 12 (02:13:24):
He was there hitting, he was in the cage, and
today he was hitting and he looked great. But then
it was the next day he came in and said, oh,
I'm having pain. So then okay, so we got to
slow it down a little bit. But it was like,
it's like, have we made any progress since that?
Speaker 5 (02:13:36):
Right?
Speaker 11 (02:13:36):
And other than the fracture is probably healed by now.
Speaker 5 (02:13:38):
Like no doubt.
Speaker 8 (02:13:39):
And you know what sometimes happens to how you get
inflammation is when you're playing when you're still hurt is
mechanics change. Think about a quarterback throwing in a certain
account that when he gets into his normal armslot, it
bothers him. So what's if you're playing through it, what's
the natural reaction? Like, think about when you're sleeping on
one side, you're like, man, on my left psiatica.
Speaker 1 (02:13:58):
You roll over.
Speaker 8 (02:13:59):
It's like, oh this feels great, right, I can sleep.
You stay there, But the sciatic was sore because well,
it's like when you have knee injury. You know what
hurts next because you're favoring it your left hip. Oh
well my left hip, Why well I'm favored Okay. Of
course the inflammation's coming from that there's no structurally wrong
inflammation will house this threshold to pay. I don't know, man,
give me a pill, let me go play, you know,
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you know, archaic thinking, but I get it. But yeah,
it's just it's it's a treadmill.
Speaker 12 (02:14:26):
He wasn't any good and so like That's the other
part of this too, is let's say we get him
back somewhere mid late August.
Speaker 11 (02:14:33):
What if he's not ain't good?
Speaker 12 (02:14:35):
Like, So that's why I say, like, mentally wise, I'm
moving on from you, and you gotta I gotta build
this team.
Speaker 8 (02:14:40):
We gotta win names and Gordy, you gotta convince your players.
They all want Jordan back, of course, but with the guys,
like I said, I'm coaching and managing and playing the
guys that are here in uniform. Not that we don't
want him back, but you also have to convince your
players they're good enough to win without him. It can't
be the crutch of yeah, man, because and they're playing
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like they can win without him, so they're not obviously
they're not thinking about that. But you can't get locked
into thinking, well, without Jordan, what are we gonna do.
You have to convince them, guys, they're so damn good
that we can win a World Series without him. Whether
it's true or not, that's what you psychologically have to
convince him. You got to convince Tremmel that he can
start in left field and be a regular every day
and kick ass, and that you got goes.
Speaker 11 (02:15:22):
Guys, we don't need you.
Speaker 5 (02:15:24):
Got me.
Speaker 11 (02:15:24):
You're not gonna say fare.
Speaker 8 (02:15:26):
Right now now out loud. He's gonna say, hell, yeah,
we need your done. At home, he's probably talking to
his wife or girlfriend. Have I say, you know what,
I belong here, And that's part.
Speaker 11 (02:15:35):
Of that freaking homel. Guys, get behind me, let's go.
Speaker 8 (02:15:39):
I can argue that Cooper's having a better season than
you're done right now. I'm kidding, but you get by point.
You need him, but you've got to convince yourself that
you can win without it. And right now, to me,
you've got no choice because he's not in uniform.
Speaker 7 (02:15:51):
Well, you get five more games this week, you get
no Astros baseball next week until Friday. It's still a
great time for all of us to be drinking. Crawford back.
Speaker 12 (02:16:00):
Yeah. I was talking about Budd who was at the
game last night, and he said, uh, I think I
know why we lost.
Speaker 11 (02:16:04):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (02:16:04):
I didn't have a Crawford back.
Speaker 11 (02:16:05):
So you went to the game, you didn't have a
Crawford Bock.
Speaker 5 (02:16:07):
What were you thinking.
Speaker 12 (02:16:08):
So if you go into the baseball game this week,
obviously a headful of home games left before the All
Star Break, get to dyke In Park, get you a
Crawford Bach and let's root on the Astros. Let's get
the let's get this series one tonight with Hunter Brown
and whin tomorrow when another series feel pretty good. So
goes perfectly with Astros baseball. Whatever you have in there
at the ballpark, of course, dollar dog Night, whatever it is,
(02:16:29):
get yourself a Crawford from carboch Brewing Berg right here.
Speaker 9 (02:16:32):
In Houston, Texas.
Speaker 7 (02:16:33):
I mean, I think that was the key to Friday's
game eighteen to one, is that Crawford Bok.
Speaker 12 (02:16:38):
I was over at Carbach on was that Thursday and
Net won that one. And there you go, Yeah, there
you go. Good stuff, but appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (02:16:44):
Chris Gordy joins us every single Tuesday and Thursday here
courtesy of car Bock Brewing. A couple of things though,
that we just talked about right there, will carry over
to the other side. So we continue the Astros conversation
on a Tuesday Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:16:57):
We're gonna have to turn this matter over to oh No.
Speaker 2 (02:17:02):
More Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (02:17:07):
And whatever with these guys, because I think it's actually
quite the opposite. I think those guys look at it
right now, is this is not only an audition to
be here and get on the field on a daily basis.
This is an audition to stay because the numbers are
going to play out. Let's just say you do get
yourd On back, you do get you you believe you're
gonna get Jeremy Paania back. I mean any of the
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other guys that are on the il that you're counting
on at some point down the road in the season.
Is that then all right they come back. Somebody's got
to go out. That's what these guys are playing for
right now. You want it back to you want to
make it. These are opportunities for you to shoot your
shot and impact it. So it goes back to one.
Speaker 8 (02:17:48):
What do you think the biggest word in organization is
for a player that doesn't play much but you have
expectations for them, is trusting that they're going to show
up and do their thing right. So for every guy,
like you know Tremmel, who's waiting for opportunities by doing
what he's doing, you get to a point where you say,
if its need be, if somebody gets hurt like it,
can he feel like can you trust him to play two, three,
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four weeks? And these are opportunities for them to prove it.
Yet I'm not sacrificing wins to have a young guy
or somebody or a veteran it's a backup. Prove to
me that he can play for three weeks down the road.
That's all great, and in the perfect world, that's all
getting all of it is encompassed. But for me, my
number one priority every single time, and I know there's
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this too, is to win, not putting your team in
danger injury wise by pitching a guy one hundred and
twenty five pitches. But when it comes to playing, like
I said, I'm gonna keep I'm keeping a close eye
on the approach these next five games. I really am,
because I would take this just as serious as I
did the Dodger a pair.
Speaker 5 (02:18:47):
I would.
Speaker 8 (02:18:48):
I would take it just as serious because as long
as we're keeping score and wins and losses count. Would
you rather have a nine game cushion or a three
game cushion coming out of the All Star Break? Oh? Nine,
of course? And then what can you do when you
have a nine game cushion coming in All Star Break?
Speaker 9 (02:19:02):
What can you do?
Speaker 5 (02:19:03):
You can probably rest guys here or there. Well, how's
that now?
Speaker 8 (02:19:06):
So my philosophy is go post the wins, keep the lead,
and then be out in front and make them chase
where they're in desperation.
Speaker 4 (02:19:15):
You're not.
Speaker 8 (02:19:16):
They can't afford to rest guys on a day when
they would have liked to. The astros can now flip
the script. You go on and you were one and
five going in because maybe you've got a little casual mindset.
I'm not saying they will, but could now do now
do the math? Now it's down to two and a
half for three games because the Maritors won on a
six game win streak or five game win streak, Now
how you feeling? And then your rival kicked your ass
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three games like we did the Dodgers. The Rangers beat
you three in a row. That alone enough is enough
for me to say, oh hell no, four damn right,
where are you saying no, no, even if I'm out
of it, I'm spoiling that those three games for those guys,
I'm they're not waltzing into our a building and kicking
our ass.
Speaker 5 (02:19:53):
And that's way I'm going into an All Star break.
That's not how I think.
Speaker 8 (02:19:56):
So the philosophy for me is, if you're three games,
if you lose five or six, and now you're going
to coming out of the ulcer rates, now the pressure
and even though it's a long season, then you're inside
of seventy games. Dan, hell, we're already there. You're right
around to seventy one games or so left.
Speaker 5 (02:20:13):
So you come out of that.
Speaker 8 (02:20:14):
Now the pressure shifts to YouTube stay out in front.
But now you're dragging ass a little bit because now
the desperation is no longer on them, it's on you
to keep this lead. So what happens now This team's
been great under pressure. Don't misunderstand me, but to expect
that I'd much rather have the Then you now become
the team that man.
Speaker 5 (02:20:32):
I'd like to give the guy a rest, but he's hot.
I need him in the lineup.
Speaker 8 (02:20:37):
And then you're down to one series. It's just like
I like going into the fourth court of the football game.
I like a two and a half touchdown lead, because
then a pick six against us throw it, I still
got ten point lead, a three, you got a three
point lead to your two point lead, five point lead.
One mistake changes the whole course of a game. I
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like the cushion to be able, all though I don't
want to make the mistake to afford me the opportunity
that if I do, how can we respond? I think
going into these next five games, if they did, anybody
that's in contention, not just the Astros, comes into this
thinking all star breaks here, this is a good time
for us to gather, to take to take a deep breath.
It's like the team who gets to the super Bowl
and takes a deep breath because they made it, and
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then they get their ass kicked. Nobody cares that you
finished in second place. Apparently they don't care. In New York,
the Yankees, they want manager fired, and they were in
the World Series last year.
Speaker 5 (02:21:29):
See my point.
Speaker 8 (02:21:30):
I want as much cushion as I can because when
it really does matter at the end, to get rest
going into the postseason, fresh legs, fresh arm. I want
that more than me being worried about are you fresh
over a five day all Star break? That's what the
All Star break is for. We're going to back off.
That's when you get all your rest and be wise
about how you get your rest. It comes down to
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trust when it's all said and done.
Speaker 7 (02:21:53):
And we can continue talking about this too if you
want to jump in someone three two one two five
seven to ninety against someone three two you five seven ninety.
So we continue to roll along here Sean Salisbury Show
Sports SOX seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (02:22:05):
The seven ninety listener line here in the.
Speaker 7 (02:22:06):
Nine o'clock hour is presented by one eight hundred car cash.
Then they use in, uh, what was Timothy Dalton's Live
and Let.
Speaker 5 (02:22:16):
Die Live and Let Live and Let Die? Is that's
a Beatles cut, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (02:22:21):
I mean Beatles, so that maybe he just right, absolutely
great theme song, though, great Bond theme song and great
movie by the way. I mean, people weren't very big
on Timothy Dalton. No, that's why he was one and done.
Yeah he had one run into who's the best Bond?
Conner Connery, right, but there's something Roger Moore was pretty good.
(02:22:42):
But people have a strong affinity for Roger Moore and
what Pierce Brosen. I think Brosnen was actually number two.
I think Brosen's kind of underrated.
Speaker 5 (02:22:50):
Oh.
Speaker 8 (02:22:51):
As an actor, I think he's every whatever he's in.
He could play a lot of different roles, like the
mob Land role he's playing now, which is really good. Yeah,
he can play a mean guy normally. I look at him, say,
he's just he's the criminal, you like, like when he
was in Uh, what's the painting one?
Speaker 5 (02:23:04):
They're coming out with another one.
Speaker 8 (02:23:05):
It's to be the third time or fourth time that
Thomas Crown Affair, I think. Yeah. And the Thomas Crown
Affair is going to be with I just saw yesterday. No, oh,
it's it's Michael Michael Jordan. Oh, Michael b Jordan. Yeah, okay, Michael,
not Michael Jordan. Michael, Yeah, I guess we should. When
I say show George, yeah, I think he's like producing it.
(02:23:27):
But also is he's the star and it so I
think I'm pretty sure that he's the heist guy and
Thomas Crown Affair, and there's obviously the one the the uh,
the female who's in the same role that's there to
you know, to stop him from doing it that played
the role of the lady who never ages, who's the
what's the gal's name? That was opposite of Pierce Browsin
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in the show Russo she's you look at her. She
was like in fifty something years old and she looked.
I mean she has an age in like thirty years
at least it appeared in the movies. But yeah, it's
supposed to be a new one coming out, So there
you go. But the Bond, it's it's Connory and it's
not close, right, it's Connery, then it's Brass and then
Roger Moore, Roger Moore, and then probably Daniel Craig. Yeah,
(02:24:09):
well I take that back, Daniel Craig, pretty damned. I
keep forgetting it. And why would you want to give
that up? I guess because you're just tired of the
storyline and tired of being bond. But man, that's a
pretty and maybe you get typed like he's bond. He's Bond,
But man, such an iconic series I of movies. I
it would be hard to they're printing money too. Maybe
he's made enough, but he doesn't print it Anymorey, he's
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tired of it and and obviously a new Bond, but
man alive I liked.
Speaker 5 (02:24:35):
I thought Daniel Craig is pretty good, but supposed to
be it, well, everybody not supposed to be. I think
a lot of people Pine wanted to because.
Speaker 8 (02:24:43):
He's British and you know, you get the you get
an African American finally, you know, playing Bond. But I
don't know if contract hold up or what have you.
But I don't even know who is the new Bond.
I can't remember who is it. I don't even remember it.
Speaker 5 (02:24:56):
Yeah, I mean I'm on the sided it down to
a couple that.
Speaker 9 (02:25:00):
Yeah, Daniel Craig's pretty freaking good, but Connery's the king
when it comes to Bond.
Speaker 7 (02:25:04):
I mean, you would think, you know, Tom Hardy is
a possibility you have, but Tom Hardy's too rough around
the edge. I would, but he's not poland and not
in the bad.
Speaker 8 (02:25:13):
But you see, he's well, he's like Jason Statham, who's
like he's got the same role at all of them,
where he's a bruder, he's kind of mumbles his way
through at times. Smart guy obviously, but he's the just
the initial look at Tom Hardy, you don't look at
him as a polished Bond, right.
Speaker 5 (02:25:33):
Tom Holland was one that I was thinking of. Tom Holland,
Spider Man.
Speaker 8 (02:25:37):
There you go, because Tom Hardy, I mean, you know,
Hardy is like he feels like one of the villains
in a Bond movie, that he's assisting a villain because
just that polished of I don't see him going yet shaken.
Speaker 5 (02:25:48):
That stirred Tom Holland. I could see that.
Speaker 9 (02:25:51):
Yes, not Hardy Sewan, James Seawan, you know, I practiced
that I instead of Bond, James Sewan, James Shawn. Yeah,
but it's got to be a guy that like when
he walks, they're just people just just polished in the
suit fits perfect, and you know a.
Speaker 8 (02:26:06):
Little a little uh rangier, like a sinewy. Holland looks
like he wants to beat up on Bond. I forget
the I mean, not Holland, but Hardy. I forget the comedian.
Speaker 7 (02:26:15):
But they used it as a bit where they said, well,
it works for Bond, so it's gonna work for me.
He said he tried it on a lady once of
you know, whatever his name was, you know, James Mark James,
and she goes off, f off, Oh nice.
Speaker 8 (02:26:28):
Yeah, I've viewed Seana, Sean James, Sean Matthews and Matthews.
It wouldn't work as well. It's too well you think
if I tried to to too many, too many syllables. Right,
it's me, it's just Sean James.
Speaker 5 (02:26:42):
It's for Bond. It's just like it's just once Sean.
It's not just not committed to the right Sean James,
I've committed to. I'm I don't know. You want to
be that person who lives that role right, kind of
like you have to. I mean, that's that's why it
worked for Bond. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (02:26:55):
Would a guy like Christian Bale be a good Bonder?
Is he too rough around the edges?
Speaker 5 (02:26:58):
And two?
Speaker 8 (02:26:59):
But he's you could see all he could trim up
and be polished and he's a badass. Don't don't bother him.
Yeah bad idea, that was it for you?
Speaker 5 (02:27:09):
Good for you? Yeah, but he's methodists.
Speaker 8 (02:27:13):
I could see it, and he gets into it, dude,
that's what I would say, the method actor. He'd live
it and maybe start calling himself Bond. But I always
thought that I could picture him. But maybe he's just
a little too too too rough tough guy stuff. I mean,
you want the tough guy, but you want it to
be he can hold a Martini while he kicks you
in your throat or I just feel like Christian Bale
wants to kill you when he does.
Speaker 5 (02:27:33):
He's a good actor.
Speaker 7 (02:27:35):
I don't think DiCaprio would ever go for it, but
I think DiCaprio could play a great Bond villain.
Speaker 5 (02:27:39):
Yeah, oh villain. No, absolutely absolutely could. Where is he?
Speaker 7 (02:27:45):
I mean, I think just waiting for the next Martin
Scorsese movie, probably Mary as he likes to.
Speaker 8 (02:27:49):
Yeah, probably right. He's a fixture for the next seventy years.
Scorsese puts it out de Niro and Leo DiCaprio or
in it.
Speaker 9 (02:27:56):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (02:27:57):
I was gonna say it might it might be time
pass for de Niro, but Scorsesees interviews always cracked me
up to like he just seems like, you know, just
this like always like nervous energy guy that you know.
Speaker 5 (02:28:09):
Oh you know.
Speaker 7 (02:28:09):
In the Beauty of the Irishman, what we really loved
about it was that Robbie wanted to be a part
of it.
Speaker 5 (02:28:14):
DeNiro, you know, he really wanted to be a part
of it.
Speaker 8 (02:28:16):
And he talks fast, He's got his guy's Bobby and
he called DeNiro Bob right his mom.
Speaker 7 (02:28:21):
Of course, and Casino and then also and Good Fellas
as the mom where you know they go to the
house after they just bats. Yeah, yeah, and then she
shows them the painting. Oh look at that guy, that's
his mom and realized, yeah.
Speaker 11 (02:28:33):
Don he look like somebody we know.
Speaker 9 (02:28:36):
Mom?
Speaker 1 (02:28:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:28:37):
And then she was also the mom of the deli
market guy in Casino. Oh yeah, yeah, oh cool, keeping
the family man absolutely absolutely what works works all right?
Speaker 5 (02:28:49):
Uh so gen Z sometimes we look at gen Z
and we just wonder, what do you think? And this
is another example we'll.
Speaker 7 (02:28:56):
Talk about here close things out here On a Tuesday
Sean's Allsbury show Sports SOX seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (02:29:01):
Sort of pro painters Dale.
Speaker 8 (02:29:03):
I'm talking to you, my man who runs a show
as a customer first as I was, and now part
of the family. My house is getting ready for a
new paint job, changing the color on it, and uh,
he doesn't know yet, but he will and sort of
pro will because they're the best, and they're the only
ones I use. I like the DIY, but when it
comes to paint, I can't do it as good as them. Now,
maybe you can, but I can free your time up.
Speaker 5 (02:29:25):
Let's do it.
Speaker 8 (02:29:25):
It's the right price, local, trusted, they're timely, they'll paint
your home to the way you want it painted like
they would their own home. Plus they'll help you pick
out the paint. It's one that well I know how
to pick out paint. Yeah, but are you sure that
that that gloss or that Matt pops whether it's interior
or xterieror your home or your business expensive town, a
home in a business, So why not protect it with
the quality painting A sort of pro painters right interior
(02:29:48):
x tier Man's that's your life, your investment.
Speaker 5 (02:29:51):
Don't you want to make it look great?
Speaker 8 (02:29:53):
And when you're sitting there, you're like, man, even in
your room, that feel good feeling about a spring or
summer paint job. Well, I'm doing it to my home,
and I'll only use sorta pro painters certapro dot com
for your free estimate.
Speaker 5 (02:30:04):
It's sort of with the c you know who they are.
Speaker 8 (02:30:06):
And I said here and talked about it for years now,
but I won't change because while I like to diy
and I like to paint, I also know coming out
of it, i'd like more time to do other things,
So why not let the experts take care of it?
And I believe in cert of Pro Painters, and as
a customer, I couldn't be more proud to be a
part of it.
Speaker 4 (02:30:22):
But I know this.
Speaker 5 (02:30:23):
When they walked out of my house, I knew I'd
made the right decision. And you will too.
Speaker 8 (02:30:27):
It's sort of with the C sort of pro painters,
sort of with a C sort ofpro dot com for
your free estimate sort of pro painters. That's painting Happy.
Speaker 3 (02:30:36):
We want to wait.
Speaker 1 (02:30:38):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (02:30:41):
We've usually done this before.
Speaker 7 (02:30:43):
Not try not to do the whole oh gen Z
gen Z thing, because I mean I'm not that far
removed from them. And plus two, I mean TRIPLEL is
part of gen Z. So if I'm going after gen Z,
then ergo, I'm going after Triple E. I don't want
to do that. I don't think any of us want
to do that.
Speaker 5 (02:30:56):
But some of us do. Oh I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Go ahead.
Speaker 7 (02:31:01):
I mean, look, there is such a thing about being
you know, broken down to be built back up at times.
Speaker 5 (02:31:06):
I mean, look, you know, nobody's immune from it, and
you know.
Speaker 8 (02:31:09):
Sometimes Triple he doesn't qualify if something needs to be
broken down, I don't think so. Yeah, good because I
don't think he falls into this category. Well, it's never
an umbrella statement on everybody that's true. Anything that's sure.
You could find somebody in all categories that suck.
Speaker 5 (02:31:22):
Fine tip paint brushes.
Speaker 7 (02:31:23):
That's what we paint with here, not wide swaths here, right,
that's not what we do here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
So in most developed nations, it is standard. This is
from politics out here on Twitter at politics out here.
In most developed nations, it's standard to get a month
of paid time off. In America, we have to take
many retirements once every eighteen months. It's crazy how we
(02:31:47):
are so polarized that an entire voting block of working
class people will fight and say you want to give
them more PTO, And some people right there might say
many retirements. Apparently there are some gen Z career professionals
out there who call it a quote micro retirement that
(02:32:07):
involves taking one or two weeks break from work every twelve.
Speaker 9 (02:32:11):
To eighteen years. Well, isn't that a vacation?
Speaker 5 (02:32:16):
I mean usually yeah, what are the gen Z?
Speaker 10 (02:32:20):
What?
Speaker 9 (02:32:21):
What am I learning from that?
Speaker 11 (02:32:22):
Just new names for the same stuff.
Speaker 8 (02:32:25):
Here's what I say. You said, take a two week
break one every hell how often.
Speaker 7 (02:32:29):
Twelve twelve to eighteen months? In this case you said
twelve to eighteen years. Yeah, eighteen months, okay, twelve to
eighteen years. I was going to say, well, then you're
just an idiot for not taking vacation. Want twelve day
So basically they want to take two weeks off from
work every twelve to eighteen months. Yeah, So basically you're
telling me that you're doing what the rest of the
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world does, two weeks vacation every year. Well, I mean,
I think in this case they want the vacation and
they want two weeks off because they deserve it. It's
just a many get away over you mean they want
over to basically want four weeks vacation if they only
get two, or like in Europe, you know they call
it holiday in their case too. It's he's mentioning that
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most working class, civilized society is this out for a
month off?
Speaker 5 (02:33:17):
Oh okay?
Speaker 8 (02:33:17):
Is this the same as a working in fast food
where they get your order wrong seventy five percent of
the time, but they want a twenty five dollars an
hour pay race that one. I mean maybe, oh okay,
well sorry, it's part of the working class. So yeah,
we all are okay, and I get it now. I
always want more for everybody. What are you gonna do?
Hold out because I'm not paying you seventy five dollars
an hour because you put lettuce on a burger I
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didn't want. Okay, I'm being facetious obviously, but you get
my point.
Speaker 11 (02:33:44):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (02:33:45):
Well, now, now I'm the boss and you're a gen
Z and you come in and ask me, hey, I'm
going to take two weeks off over and above the
vacation just because I deserve every twelve months and many
retirement say cool, Well, when you take that two weeks off,
make sure you clock out and turn in your playbook
because that I'm assuming that you're done with work.
Speaker 5 (02:34:02):
No, I mean for paternity c Yeah, you need it
for paternity leave. You're not feeling well all that.
Speaker 8 (02:34:07):
But as a gen Z or you don't get to
dictate to me or. I don't care if you're gen
X gen Z bay, I don't care where you fit in.
If it says you get to and if you need
I'm a reasonable boss. If I was a boss if
oh man, you need extra day or two, but to
say this is time, I'm not showing up, that's cool.
Speaker 5 (02:34:25):
Don't show up, don't get paid. It's pretty simple concept.
Speaker 8 (02:34:28):
So take take six months off if you want, but
you'll be coming back working for somebody else. So to yeah,
we would all like two months three months off. Hence
why you work hard. So when you decide you want
to retire at forty five, how about it. But as
long as you're employed by us and you get two
weeks vacation, those other two weeks aren't here to appease
you and make sure that you say that we're bad
people because we're not giving you two weeks off of
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paid free time. Sorry, it doesn't work gen Z or
any other any other group of people. Here's an idea
of become your own boss. Yeah, and I don't feel sorry,
Well i'm tired. You're working me too hard. I worked
eight hours yesterday.
Speaker 5 (02:35:03):
Get line. Oh well, we never get tired. A run.
Speaker 8 (02:35:06):
Well, I'm not saying it's listen to what we do.
It's called work. But come on, man, we're talking sports.
I know it's not as hard, but I'm also if
i'm you know, holding a street sign that says go
and stop you and you're piss because you're only making
eighty bucks an hour.
Speaker 9 (02:35:21):
I love you, stop okay, and you're not getting an
extra two weeks unless we all do. How's that we post?
That's right?
Speaker 5 (02:35:29):
What we post?
Speaker 8 (02:35:30):
I mean half of this is tu half of this
is tongue in cheek. But I don't think that gen
z gets to dictate to the boss how often they
get off. And if they do, they'll probably be working
seventeen different jobs in the course of their career. Longevity
may not be part of their gig. And if you
decide you take it two weeks off, how about those
ones that just don't show up to work without telling anybody. Yeah,
(02:35:53):
oh so they just didn't show up and then you
let them back the next day. No, you might just
want to stay home because I'll do your job before
you date and I'll find somebody else.
Speaker 7 (02:36:01):
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Speaker 4 (00:23):
Here is Hammerson down the left field line and that
ball is gone. A three run home run into the
Lantry's Crawford boxes for a Jose Ramirez who goes deep
for the fifteenth time this year. And the Guardians lead
Ford to nothing, the two to one, and Trammell hits
it in the air pretty deep to left, pawn.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
His back looking up see Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Taylor.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Trammell's first sit of the season is a three run
homer into the Lantryes Crawford boxes. It's four to three,
Cleveland to two, and that's hammered deep to let fails.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
It goodbye off the foul pole.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Asak Paradis ties it at four, his nineteenth of the year.
Here's the two and that is lined and over the
head of Parada Is just over his glove and down
the left field line. Martinez scores tearing around third, now
Nayler and coming home. Here's a relay throw to the
plate by short not nearly in time. It's a two
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run double for Brian Rocchio and the Guardians have a
six to four lead. It looked like Parades came close
to catching that on the leap but just did elude him.
Pitch on the way and Carratini hits it well the right,
going back. Jones at the wall looking up Selta.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Victor.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Carraccini goes deep for the night time this year, and
it's six to five Cleveland. The kick in the one
zero Hi Boucher right side to his left stemen. He's
got it, throws to first in time, and that is
the ballgame the Cleveland Guardians in their ten game taking
the opener of this three game series from the Astros
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seven to five.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
Robert Ford laying it out for you hot last night
at Dyke and Parker sounded and with that we say
away we go and good morning here on the John
Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety as the Stros return
home from the road trip where they went to Colorado
and La taking care of business there, but then get
back and no Jake Myers in the lineup, No Jeremy
(02:30):
Pania in the lineup. Trying to think of anybody else,
I mean, Christopher Walker, no Christian Walker in the lineup.
Of course, and congratulations he and his wife.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
They are expecting.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
I haven't heard any word if the newest edition has
arrived yet, but paternity list for Christian Walker. And then
noticed I didn't even mention Jordan Alvarez because well, he's
out approaching a little bit closer to three months.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Of no yord on at that point.
Speaker 8 (02:58):
So yeah, shorthanded a little bit just to say, whenever
I see that somebody, I always laugh, Hey, uh, that
Christian Walker's out to paternity leave or paternity It's like
it's on the pttorney list.
Speaker 9 (03:10):
When did he have a baby?
Speaker 7 (03:12):
You know, it's the first thing you got to with
the congratulations. It's a modern incredible it's a modern medical miracle.
Well there's actually some out there that think it does happen.
Well we'll, we'll, we'll, We'll leave that for them, but yeah,
congrats to him. That's that's the life changing moments, and
good on them, and uh, it's it's been a good
what a couple of weeks. I mean he started to
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get rolling and then you know, the priorities and perspective,
especially what's going on and we've seen what's happened in Texas.
I'm sure that it's an emotional time for him to
as well. The they you know, beat by good team
and the Ramior's the balls flying on the ballpark last
night for both teams and uh, you're gonna lose sixty plus. Dad,
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I say it all the time, and that's one of now.
The thing now between now, not only All Star, but
the rest of the time is just not get into
long skids. You're you're talking about short handed. You were
short handed, then you're short handed by paternity and by
just days off as well for some getting the rest
they need, hung in there, you know, tied it back up,
and then in the late innings you know, long ball
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and just and then when clause comes in. Dude, I'm
sitting here watching last night, my dumbass that late even
though it was still you know, you're only a swing
or two away with a base runner, right is Dude,
he threw one hundred mile an hour cutter. I mean,
I know that sounds like Sean they're doing it all
they're not doing it all the time. But the guy
pumps at one hundred hundred and one. But he had
a cutter at a hundie with movement, Yes, at a Hundie.
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I mean, you know, it's just just it's to me,
it's baffling how hell you could do it. But you know,
you run into it that he's our he's there hater
when he comes into game, you expect it to be
done right. You've got like nineteen saves this year. But yeah, yeah,
oh it is Yeah, was pushing twenty somewhere in that range.
So it's just to me it you know, you're they've
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been on a good run. Okay, you lost last night.
Speaker 8 (05:03):
To me, I always want to see how they respond
the next day after winning streak, played great baseball as
hot as anybody come in here. A lot of changes
yesterday getting guys in and now to settle in. You know,
the the wasn't a dominant, obviously pitching performance, and they
hung in there and they got beat And Cleveland has
always been a scrapping, grinding team. And I think Ramirez
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is the most underpaid, under nationally appreciated baseball player in
the in the major leagues.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
I do. I think he's phenomenal.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
And you know, you get it going and then you respond,
and then they come back and home and then they
get the ninth inning. Uh, you know, a little bit
of a two run cushion with the top of the
ninth home run, and then you've got to do something special.
And then three ground balls a second base from with
close on the mount, and you know, fortunate because most
people don't put the bat on the ball with him
three times in a row, even though it were slow
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rollers and they put them away.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
But it's going to happen.
Speaker 8 (05:58):
I'm always now today, what happens, how's the lineup, what's
it look like?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
How do you come back?
Speaker 8 (06:03):
What you know, pitching wise, come back out and say, okay,
our losing streak stops at one.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
That's that's how I am.
Speaker 8 (06:09):
But it was just you know, and watching it, it
was just kind of you know, it's a back and
forth and Cleveland always has some grind and they've got
good players, and with the ball flying out of the park,
you just couldn't you. Those are the games we're talking about, Dan,
When you run into a team that you expect pitching
to bail you out the entire time, right, which they
have a lot of times this year. The batcheler's starting
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to awaken, it appears, but you see what happens. You
can score four, you can score five, but once in
a while your pitching staff's going to give up more
and not be able to keep the ball in the ballpark.
Then how do you respond, not only in that game
and to get back in it and then just couldn't
close it out? And now you look forward to Tuesday
and the rest of the All Star Break what you
can't do. Don't breathe a sigh. And I'm not saying
they will, but it's easy for all of us. It's
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like it's like when you come to work here or
when you go to work at your office. So you
go to there's a there's this tendency, and it even
happens in pro sports. I know when we knew a
bye week was coming now, we were really good. Like
Andy Danny Green was good going into her coming out.
I can't remember what was going into her coming out
of a bye week. We were pretty good, right, But
it's easy to let your mind wander and get to
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the point where even if you've been in at fifteen
years or you've been in at fifteen minutes, to get
your mind right, say, oh, all Star breaks coming. You know,
it's like when you get ready for vacation a week
before or three days on it.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Well, on a long.
Speaker 8 (07:25):
Weekend, there's that Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Well, really we're off
on Friday, but some treat like, well I'm off on Thursdays.
You know you're not off on Thursday, but your mind
is that at least that sets it.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
And it can happen in sports as well.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Oh weird they called out sick, Yeah, what a shaker happens?
Speaker 5 (07:43):
What a shocker?
Speaker 8 (07:43):
Or they came in and work was done at ten
am and it really did get four or five days.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
So hate that for you, right for a vacation, right
right right.
Speaker 8 (07:51):
So you some it gets to the point where it's
almost human nature and you've got to fight against it
to check out two days before you're supposed to check out.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 8 (08:00):
So if you're the coming off a really good road trip,
you swept the number of the best team in baseball,
and now into a Detroit may have an argument. But
and now here you are, you don't want to get
locked into okay that these are just kind of throwaway
games you can't get you're at home.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
You don't want it.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
Just as quickly as you felt good about it, just
as quickly feel poor about it. Heading in the Altuari
because I'm a feel good guy when it comes to that.
I like the feeling of oh man, we won four
or six heading into it as well, right to where
you can go into it saying now that's the way
we play. So it's a feel good. So you're not
sitting there, you're O for seventeen and you're going to
the Ulster wik. That's not a fun all star break
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because in the grind and you don't even get to
enjoy your family for three or four days, so you
got to You do have to guard. I'm not saying
the Astros haven't because grit and the way they hang
in there is.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Is a good thing.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
But it is easy twenty five years old, forty years old,
sixty years old, or fifteen years old to oh my
vacation's coming. It's the substitute teacher feel all. Even though
it's a Wednesday in class, we up when's the last
time a sub came into class and you felt like
it was a regular work day at school. Never you're
either watching a video or you're like, well, what's she gonna?
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It's one day I don't have to do anything, so
you've kind of checked out, don't don't talk to me
like that, right right, I don't know, don't.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 8 (09:17):
So you do have to guard against that going into
this and stay stay laser focused. Is if this is
the last five or six games of the season, how
would you treat it?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Right?
Speaker 8 (09:29):
And you're in a you're you're in a battle, so
I and they won't, but you do have to guard
against that. It's it's in and uh and make sure,
which means today you go out and you you put
your foot down, take care of your business.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Intonight's game.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
So now, okay, now we got a chance to go
back and win a series again, so it'll be important. Listen,
Cleveland's formidable, and they've got good pitching, and and uh,
you didn't get your stellar performance yesterday by your own
team on the mound. And and uh, when you give
up that many runs, you're not gonna the way they've
inconsistently swung it over the season. They that that's a
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grind for them right now. And then with all the
different names in the lineup.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Overall, health is my larger concern because it should be
knock on wood here. I'm not advocating for this team
to lose five of six or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Anything far from it.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
But I'm far less concerned with the results in these
last few games before the All Star Break as opposed to, man,
just get the Sunday and then get out of there,
hopefully as healthy as possible.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
Yeah, but you know what's crazy to me, We're saying
this like it's a football or rugby game. I know
what you're saying, but man, if I got to I mean,
and I know we're all even a little bit gun
shy about the injuries. A second somebody goes down well
automatically in this town. Think we'll see in a year.
I mean, it's hard not to feel that way. I
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get it, and it happened again yesterday. But as the
show goes along, Yeah, I'll be honest with you, I
ain't rest in anybody between now and the All Star
Break unless they're hurt or injured. I ain't rest anybody.
They got it yesterday. I do not rest them. You
get the whole All Star break, because like when people say,
well you can sleep when you're dead, you get the
whole All Star break. You get you you'll rest then
I need al two bay swinging, but I want him
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feeling good. Going in if he can get him back.
I don't know how long Christian Walker. When he is
he back in, will he'll be back? I don't know.
It's basically just whenever. Okay, So it's a day to
day thing. So hopefully I'm playing my guys. I want praise,
I need him in the lineup, but I want to win.
I don't want all of a sudden I have this,
and then if Seattle were to go on a run
in five games and you went through your losing streak
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now to preserve yourself, and now they've closed it to
three games or two game, I don't want that. And
that's why I'm saying that guard against and you are
exactly right. But if the mentality is.
Speaker 9 (11:45):
Play it safe, I got to rest alt two by
three more days.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
He's got he got plenty of time. He's not in
the All Star Game. He got plenty of time to rest.
And it's baseball, no no offense. Nobody's running you over
and hit you in the side of the head at
third base with a free runner while you're trying to
feel the ground ball. Now, I know baseball can have
its moments getting hit by a pitch and slide and
I'm not saying that. My point is is I got
to guard against being a little lackadaisical and casual.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Casual is the word I use. It's not lazy.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
These guys aren't lazy, but it's easy to get casual
going in saying, well, let's put this guy in.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Hey, he's fine, but man, it's been a long first season.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
They played eighty some ninety games or whatever, pushing it
right night right, going in that ninety games, going into
the game, I think, so, I know, I see that's
what if other people are doing. If I need rest,
I'll give him rest. And I'd like to. You know,
you like to get some good innings out of your
starting pitching, so you can even go into the All
Star break with your vulpit even getting more rest and
coming out fresh as could be. But I rest in
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my two I ain't rest in the players that are healthy.
I'm going to win these next five. I want to
go win them all. Not at the expense of having
a guy throw one hundred and thirty pitches, but I'm
going to win them.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
This is not this is a preseason. They all count.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
And if you lose five and they win five, and
they're capable going on five?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
What's that make you? From seven eight games and now
to two games?
Speaker 8 (13:02):
Now the pressure builds in the second half again, and
you've got to fight to get that confidence going back
in a second. I'm just, for me, the biggest mistake
they could make, aside from you know, somebody putting somebody
at harm's way, is deciding these next five games are
for rest. Hell no, you want to go in feeling
good and you don't want to relinquish a lead that
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you've worked your ass off to get because well, you
know they're pretty tired.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
No offense.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
If you're an everyday player and you're going to plate
four times a day and you're tired and need seven
days off in baseball, I'm a saying baseball is not
a hard sport. But if you're a second baseman or
a center fielder, and Cam Smith doesn't need time off,
he's a kid. Not saying he wants it. I'm just
saying our overall thought, I don't need him. Well, let's
get him some rest. So he's young, he's in his
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early twenties, those legs are just fine. Thanks, I need
him in there, and plus he's going good. Keep him
in there.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
This easiest thing.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
It's easier to let this slide and settle and say,
you know what, I'm gonna rest all my guys. That's
what the All Star Breaks for, and for those that
are going to play in it, I'm assuming pain he's
not playing correct. I think he'll be there, but he's
not gonna get yesterday. Yeah, okay, and they need a hundred.
Brown's gonna get an inning maybe right, get it starting
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exactly so, and he may ge two.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Okay, fine, and then who am I leaving out? Oh?
Speaker 8 (14:24):
And he is, well, if he pitches, it'll be at
the end of the game or he's closing it out
because he's the only closer I believe on the roster
when I think he's going to be the only If not,
he'll be eighth any night at the end and get
his and get twelve pitches in. Okay, fine, But I'm
gonna tell you what's easier to do. What's easier to
do is to casual your way into the All Star Break.
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What's harder to do is go say we're winning five
or six and we're we're choking you out when we
come back. You didn't gain any ground the last six
games because we're cut and it's human nature. I would
just kick the Dodgers ass. They didn't play their best
baseball yesterday. So for me, I'm coaching my ass off
off and managing my ass off and play my mass
off and my guys are starting as if we're down
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a game, it's or it's one one and we got
five game series. And that's how I'm playing it, because
I just the All Star break is to get your
legs under and be with your family and no offense.
The cam smissed it. The ball ain't heavy and it
ain't that hard, and I need you. If you're banged
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up and you're exhausted, I get it for a day.
But if not, I got to have you grinding, like
the playoffs matter. And you know what a lack in
some way, somehow, some team that got cold during an
All Star like two weeks going into All Star Break
is going to screw themselves over in the second half.
I'm just telling you it does. Oh, these don't matter.
You got to be ready to play in September. Oh really,
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two years ago, what was it when they were the
final day of the season, what was it they won
in a tiebreaker? The year the Rangers won World Series
on the last day of the year of the season.
So to me, you got to be more dialed in
these last five games because it's easy to start to
call it so to have a two Martine lunch because well,
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I'm going on vacation in three days. Yeah, they can't
do that. They've got it. They've got to dial in.
So I take this more serious. But yes, stang healthy
would be that. But listen, if I'm playing hard, the
guy slides into second, gets his hand stepped on, has
to miss a day or two happens.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
I hope not for months, right, it happens. But I
ain't not playing.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
Him because I'm worried that somebody's going to hit him
with the fastball in a ribcage and he's going to
be out a month.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
I'm not doing that.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
I'm going to I'm playing to win, and I'm playing
as if this five games is means everything to us,
short of at the expense of throwing a pitcher that's
worn out and now you risk arm injury. I'm going
I'm going all in. These matter, they absolutely matter, and
you got a chance to gain even more ground or
extend your lead. Should I say on the team behind you,
because they're not exactly playing chopped liver teams these next
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five or six games.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
Uh, Seattle are not because they're going to start up
a three game series in the Bronx against the Yankeys,
and then they go to Detroit to close out the
first half.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Six games, perfect straight days, perfect game, perfect time to
get three more games in your side. Yeah, so I'm
taking it serious, and my guys are playing All Star
breaks for.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Rest someone three two and two, five, seven ninety the
number to get in this morning if you want to
jump in. But coming up about the Astros, they've improved
on this part, but there's still work to do. And
another example of that reared it said yesterday. We'll talk
about it here. It is Sean Salisbury show Sports Talk
seven ninety on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Let the celebration start more. Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Ninety yesterday we get the lineup. It comes out and
you've got six through nine, a combination of Cooper Hummel,
Taylor Trammel, Zach Short and Kennedy Corona. I mean, nice
enough story makes his major league debut. Families there all
of that walks his very first played appearance nice enough.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Good thing is last name is not Medello? Well yeah
there or Pacifica. There's a lot of good, all of them,
all of them. Huge fan of every single one of them,
trust me on that.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
So before the game though, this is my point of contention,
Astros manager Joe Espotta asked about Jake Myers, not the lineup.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Hey, skip, what's wrong with them?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
You know?
Speaker 7 (18:24):
Is everything okay? Feeling better but resting today? These are
things that again, for all of the kudos we've given
to the Astros for the improvements that they've made in
terms of their reporting and transparency when it comes to injuries.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
This just drives me.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Up the wall.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
Okay, so what do you want him to say? He's
day to day, he's day to day.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Well he's not. He's not in there today. We'll see
how it feels tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
Well what's the okay? Is it just semantics? Because I
get and I did the onely the reason I'm asking.
I'm just trying to be the nation to get the
I'm looking for answers so we can kind of pounce
on it to see what's right and what's wrong. Why
we feel this way? I know why we feel this
way the injury history report talk.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
I get it, But what did he say, feels better
but going to rest him today? Okay, So what is
the difference in saying feels better rest him today?
Speaker 10 (19:20):
To me?
Speaker 8 (19:20):
I took that it's the day to day thing, you
need a little rest. Well, we'll revisit it tomorrow. You
want him to I mean, it's so it's semantics. You
want him say he's a day to day thing. We'll see,
we'll check in with him tomorrow. What is it just
you need the verbiage to because on the other side,
you just told me you don't want anybody hurt, so
you're willing to rest these guys going into the All
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Star break, he rested a guy. But because semantics didn't
tell everybody, here's what, he's out tomorrow. Because if he
says he'll be back tomorrow and he's not back tomorrow,
you know we're gonna say misleading us again on an injury.
So it's like an open ended question. This is an
open ended answer. It's like, hey man, he needed rest today,
basically we'll see tomorrow. Because you create an unreal expectation
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at that point, because they've done this with almost every
single injury that fits into this category. Did we necessarily
think that Jeremy Pania was going to be on the IL?
Speaker 5 (20:13):
No, did we even necessarily think.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
That Jordam was going to be on the IL until
he finally was a couple of days later, and now
we haven't seen him in two and a half months.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
Well, I told you last week about Penia or what
it happened we got back on here.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
I said.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
That rib cage and torque with people. It'll be a
couple of days. It wasn't going to be ten days.
It wasn't going to be five days. It's a friggin
fracture in a rib cage. Rib cage and don't want
back early? When do you think he's playing? Oh, he's
advanced and getting better, all right, So did you have
expectations when they said he's getting better and getting closer?
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When when Dana has talked about you could tell in
the voice in his verbiage, who do you feel more
confident about getting back quicker on Ourpania?
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (20:59):
Oh, pain in close right, it is very But then
you've got to work on the field, man. I gotta
be out there, okay.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
So my point is.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
Is it sometimes feel a little misleading, not that they're
intentionally doing it, but you get my point. As I've
always said, you can go to any organization. Fans and
media will bitch about the injury talk in every city,
in every sport at some point, and I get it.
I have we not talked about the frustration over the
Renelle Blanco situation. Of course we have. It's okay, they're
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we're not entitled to anything. We are hopeful that we'll
get a little more closer injury information. But remember, you
don't want to be a doctor on here, and neither
do I and I'm neither is Dana Brown. But I
get it because you've been stung by the past. I
would say, shift your narrative. When somebody gets hurt and
they're put on the eel, I would say, it's a week.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Give me.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
I know it's more than one week, and if they
get back sooner, your mindset and our mindset will be different.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I've gone in I'm not.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
I don't care what is said about ord On Alvarez
between now. If jord On Alvarez swings a bat in
a game between now and July the end of July,
by the time training camp opens, then you want to
crawl ten miles over broken glass and do whatever it
is you do on your own after you've crawled over
broken glass, because guess what if that's the bonus they need.
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Not now if you're like, he's going to play a
week after the Ulstar Brick. If he does, awesome. If
he doesn't, you're pissed, and so am I. It's our expectations,
and I know we want the exact answer. One thing
that people got to get into haven't been around it,
and I know you got it's never happening. You are
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never going to have a general manager, a coach, a manager,
a doctor come out and say, just it's the same thing.
When's the last time a doctor if somebody has surgery,
When Xavier had surgery, what's what's the doctor's report?
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Surgery?
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Was the success rehab in Indiana? They want to know
in Burdon's come back, Well, he's he's out for the year. Great,
So now their expectations. Lord, now you're worried about twenty
twenty six, twenty twenty seven, And I just I get
what you're saying, but semantics to me, Jake Myers took it.
If he's if he's healthy enough, put his ass in
the lineup today. Agreed, let's go tired, whatever the reason.
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But you know, Dan, that that's just gonna be the
way semantics are going to drive you crazy.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Feels better? Is the new discomfort for me?
Speaker 7 (23:25):
I mean, it's just it is because like I, you know, point,
it's just a shit.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
It's a lateral move on the on the verbage. That's
all it is, right.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
It's a just feel like in the Erector set of
words that you put together. There's so many disconnects at
all times when it comes to this, right and because in.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
My mind, he's going on the ail, that's the way
I look at it now, and he great, see catching
on with that. If he doesn't, what do you call
that a little bonus? It is all it is is
semantics filling our emotions and wanted to so we get it.
But if they say he'll be back tomorrow and he's not,
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what's your first thought?
Speaker 5 (24:05):
I would misdiagnosed it.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
Again, Well, that could be for some right, but it
is also too Okay, have you spoken with people who
you believe are qualified to make that judgment, because if
you have, then okay, I'll listen to you on it.
But I don't believe it's just a hope or something
like that. Then no, I don't believe there's ever a
guy that's been put on IL ever that a doctor
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didn't say you can't play them for ten days. I
don't believe doctors you can play them and then they
say unless they're you know, moves and all that. For
the most part, I guess never and always are two
tough words to use in a.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
Life in sports, because things happen. But if they put
on IL, a doctor has told me not ready to play,
and they've made that decision to protect him from himself
as well. So I'm just I'm trying to get out
of the semantics business because they'll drive you crazy and
it will. So for that, I just take his rest now.
If he needs rest three days in a row, then
you you can rest. Is your ass as shirt. He
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ain't playing before the All Star break and whatever for whatever.
If he's out there today, then it was then worrying
was we were borrowing trouble. So when it comes to
the injury thing, all I'm doing is like an NFL
coach in a conscious I'm coaching the guys that are
in uniform. The rest of it. I'm not in the
doctor business. I'll let them figure it out. And I'm
obviously not in to make you feel good business with
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my verbiage. But the truth is lower your expectations did
when it comes to injuries. And just hope that these
guys you just name those four guys to bat the
back of the lineup, those guys guys liked them in
the back of the lineup have at times carried the
hitting the batting order at times this year, So I'm
okay with it.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
And what's tremeel do HiT's a three three run job yesterday?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Right?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Yeah, exactly?
Speaker 8 (25:46):
It was a three runner, so no doubt, right, So listen, man,
get Pain and Jordan and Myers out of your head.
Hopefully Myers is back ready to roll. But the other
two you're not seeing us before the All Star break,
and if you're lucky, you'll see them in July.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
I just expect the worst and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
But hope is not a strategy.
Speaker 8 (26:09):
Would hopeful Would you rather hope for the best and
prepare for the worst, or would you rather prepare for
the best and then when the best doesn't hit? Now
you're knocked to your knees first, right, the worst first,
every time agreed, prepare for that, and everything else is
a bonus when they're in the lineup. Hell, we got
to make sure yourdon's Jordan when he gets back in,
because he wasn't Jordon when he was in and that
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may have something to do with the injury. So that
led him to all this pushing ninety days. It'll it'll
be ninety days before you even stiff it. So it's
I'm not bothered by it. I'm rooting and coaching for
the guys that are actually playing and the other guys
that aren't. Hopefully they'll get healthy and be a bonus,
whether it's Javier and Garcia to Jordon and Pina need him, Yeah,
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can you survive without him? I think they've pretty much
proven that they can, at least on the short term.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
I love how you went tom Izzo on us right there. Yeah,
I'm gonna worry about the.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Guys like guts I'm coaching in this book, right like
when they get a hold out, you know, so we
hold out camp. I'm not worried about the guys sitting
at home eating cheetos. I'm coaching the dudes that are here.
No Cheetos are especially flaving hots enhance why I'm only
coaching the guys that are here because I don't want
to get into the cheeto mentality that we're all too casual.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
Right, So there you go? How agree would that be? Hey, coach,
what's the issue with your point guard?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Cheeto? Yeah? Eating too many of them? That's it right?
So but I am.
Speaker 8 (27:32):
I'm managing the dudes that are here, and Joe Spot
has done one hell of a job of that this year.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Now, No, no no argument for me on that. That
is something that cannot be debated of the Astros being
nineteen games above five hundred at this point. But are
you surprised necessarily by how the Astros have performed at
this point? I would say if you are, you're not
paying attention. We'll discuss here. It is the Sean Salisbury Show,
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the six o'clock hour is brought to you by one
eight hundred car Cash. You're raird it's head about the
injury reply, it'll it'll, it'll show up every once in
a while. Wave to the crowd. Maybe keep it moving,
maybe stick around. I don't know, it's a Tuesday. You know,
there's still a long way to go in this week.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
It really is so hey, but we're not eating cheetos
or mailing it in we got We're not.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
We're not doing that. No cheetle on the fingers this morning.
So we're good on that. But the Astros, though, last night,
did not put together a good enough offensive performance. Five
hits in the seven to five loss run We've seen
that movie, sure, but three home runs I'll take it.
Look Dan, see the lining. It's silver It is the
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ball left the ballpark with a should I say a
an Oakland A's type. I'm kidding, but you know, okally
where some of the guys are doing. You're like, man,
who's his cat?
Speaker 8 (28:53):
And then he you know, and you're getting, oh, we're
gonna play Trammel today and he's gonna hit a three
run jobs.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
So yeah, man, it's okay. Silver lining to see how
kinder and gentler am right there just on a loss.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
That's what boys team that won the uh the National
Minor League title last year.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Yeah, well you're seeing them right now there you go.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
I mean, and they've contributed, right, there's no question let's
not bury the lead though. You said cheat cheetos, right,
and I said, last break, what's the best chip on
the planet. I mean, if you're sitting around, like all around, okay,
there's two lace.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Here's the way. One is, do you eat plain that
you can't? No dip?
Speaker 8 (29:30):
We dip it that. If you're sitting around, you got
a sandwich or does this pend? Does it depend on
the sandwich? For instance, I may with it like a
tuna sandwich.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
The thought of eating tune at six forty in the
morning make you throw up in your mouth. But I
love like tuna sandwich for dinner last night. Yeah, maybe
a little fish. I love tuna sometimes, just a tuna
sandwich with a little thin sliced chaeddar cheese on a wheat.
Bread crushes right, it slaps.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
All right, damp Or you could do like the ones
my dad used to make where you just use one
piece of bread and you called it a foldough.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Right, there you go, l foldo, there you go. I
do that with peanut butter jelly. Put it on there,
folded over and let's go. I go the crustables there
you go. I like crust on my bread. I eat
the hell out fried? What's that uncrustable my breakfast every morning?
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:18):
No, I just eat peanut butter and jel like Nick
Saban with the little debbies, right, yeah, I mean with
the uncrustables. Yeah, I like peanut butter, toast and jelly,
but I like just the folded over peanut butter and
boys and berry jelly.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Let's go with this chip.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Oh I love yeah, so I love jam, blueberry jelly, yeah,
jelly jam, whatever you want to call it, preserve, preserves,
put it on there. I don't care, okay, but I
think like with tuna, to me, it's only two. I
eat the original ruffles with ridges, but the number one
sandwich you had, the number one chip you have to
have with two and suches. Fritos grew up. Fritos and
(30:53):
tuna sandwich go together on the plate. I'm telling you
it is. Maybe it's where I grew up. But Frito's
Dorritos don't oh with a tuna sandwich with everything. But
they could. But let's don't bury my lead here. Just
play a long freedo. So there are certain chips that
I want with certain stuff, and then there's the like
the one of those the scoops, you know, the scoops.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
That's obviously.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
It doesn't matter if you're scooping it and hummus, if
you're scooping it in salsa, if you're scooping it and
ranch dip, if you're scooping it in French onion, A
good much scoop, right, But I also so so is
there is there is there a universal that that chip
is gold kettle cooke, kettle cooked, either jlapeno or salt
(31:37):
and vent. That's not widely Yeah, you and I like it, dude,
Where it's not. I'm talking about a household.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
I love anything that's spicy, like the vinegarl it's a
salt and vinegar like those chips.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Oh yeah, I like. I mean all that, I'm into it.
Speaker 9 (31:51):
I'm talking about the universal thought that you're going to
the cupboard and all you're gonna do is sit on
your couch.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
And eat chips because you're just a chipp day and
maybe and you're not allowed to dip it. Which one
is the non dipping best chip zaps Voodoo?
Speaker 5 (32:07):
That is not a universal choice. I get it.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
You're you're choosing stuff that's that's specialty stuff. You're Chevrolet
you know that's what your foot right, I got you
when you go to the grocery store.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
What are most people?
Speaker 8 (32:23):
I just want to eat chips on the couch because
either you know, you're like you know back over you
see like the girls they're having a tough day because
they're there, and there's high school boy in college and
eat chips with their girlfriend, right, or the dudes are
just I'm beer dude, I'm hungover. Just give me chips.
What what chip is it? And you can't dip it?
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Okay? So why not? What what carries it? Barbecue?
Speaker 8 (32:45):
See, I'm going with lays, the lace cheddar, you know
that the sour crean, sour cream cheddar or whatever it is.
That just to sit around because all that they got
all that stuff on there Fredos with tuna, ham and
cheese sandwiches. But the univer's the one that covers all
of it. The plain ruffles to me, or you can
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have them with any sandwich, and I'm a texture guy.
I like to put him on the sandwich. So if
you make a HAMI ham and cheese soundich with mustard,
mayonnaise and little lettuce and tomato, now that to me,
if it's crispy lettuce. It'll give you a really good
crunch too, sure, But then you slap doritos or ruffles
on the sandwch press it down with your hand, and
(33:27):
now you've got your texture with those things. And then
you still keep some of those chips on the side.
But I'm just figuring, because there are certain dips. But
what's a standalone chip that would be universe? What's the
number one selling chip in the country that you wouldn't dip?
Speaker 5 (33:40):
What is it? I'm a ruffles plain guy. You and
Lay's triple E.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
The only problem that Lay's the reason why lays the
original lays you know, the regular ones, the yellow, the
yellowest ones that you know why, Yeah, the yellow bag
I think it was red riding or blue red. Is
a red writing on it that says lays on it.
Here's the problem with those. That's why you can't dip these.
That's why the.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
It's been that the entire time.
Speaker 8 (34:05):
I never knew, right, Here's why you can't dip them.
They're so thin they break inside the dip. Say I
look into this, you're Samanta or you just you just
eat those plane but you get the dorrido or the scoops.
They're strong, so you can dip it deep into that
dog on French onion dip and it won't break.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
And that's it.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
That's important to me.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
See I keep getting either styles of chips or even
top brands, like of course we know that laser is
going to be the top one. It's the most readily
available out there. We get it triplely. How about this,
I asked.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
I said, what's the widely known you know, the universal
one that people would go into heaven shoes funions. The
hell is wrong with you? You dabbed all the specialty things. Yeah, Sean,
I like the jalapeno cheddar with the little taste of
this and this. It's stuck in the small bag right
on the lower shelf.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
And you went zap.
Speaker 11 (35:00):
Yeah, what is that?
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Zaps is a great It's awesome. But you you don't know.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
We win cream and onion ain't bad either. Now on
this think me sour cream and onion. But yeah, the
lays is too thin to dip. So that's a good
chip that you can have with any sandwich. And you're
just gonna it's a standalone chip. That's what I caught.
You doesn't need any friends.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
Yeah, the little thinnies like that too, you know, like
the lays. I mean that's one of those. You got
to have about three or four of them together, right,
and then you're still going to have some breakoff there.
So the next person that dips into the bowl is
going to have a little bit of right.
Speaker 8 (35:33):
And you hope that maybe you go back with your
second chip and get the chip that was already in
there to save the person from seeing it.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
Right, you get like a salsa bowl, the chip breaks
off and there you're like, I'm getting that.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
And the problem is if you go salsa into the dip,
you put it on the chip and then go into
the dip, the salsa gets left over in the dip.
So you've almost got to be able to choose how
to do it. So you usually go dip the salsa
because it sticks at the top of the dip if
you go dip. For if you go salsa first, then
the dip, the salsa gets caught in the dip and
the next person like you, what are you doing here?
Speaker 5 (36:03):
See?
Speaker 7 (36:03):
And that's the thing too, is it. Nothing drives me
up a wall more disdained in. Then we go eat
Mexican food and you know, we'll get like an order
of caesto for the table and uh, Megan will try it,
tell me, hey, scoop it onto your plate. I'm like, no,
I want optimal dipping. That means even if we have
a couple of more salsas, then that's fine. I can
just have my own, but I need optimal dipping at
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this point because when it's on a plate, I've got
to scrape across. I'm not getting as good amount I need.
It's it's depth. It's depth you don't want. It's the
depth you want to be able to go deep down in.
Plus it avoids double dipping right right, and the screw
that put it on a plate. When it's there, I'm
all hands, all hands on deck. Yeah you feel me,
Stay out of the way. I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Yeah, stay off the tracks when the trains coming through.
Thank you. That's it. And especially when it comes to
chips in salsa, you better believe that.
Speaker 8 (36:53):
I think we in this day and we disrespect chips
too much. I don't think we give them enough lot.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
We don't. I absolutely don't.
Speaker 8 (36:58):
I think we've I think we've kind of oh yeah,
the chip they're one of the great support systems and
all of the food business.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
It's the special teams of the food. You're damn right.
You know you don't. You don't necearily realize it.
Speaker 8 (37:10):
So you miss a kick, send a message RFK, leave those,
leave those, leave them a load. We're allowed to have
dies and any crappy ass like we want.
Speaker 10 (37:17):
Touching chips, as long as they beef talent, because if
you're gonna do that, I'm going to load up and
see if I can keep fresh somehow some ways, seal
them like you do, and like when you buy beef
or so you know it's the seal, not chip, or
you stick them in storage that you have, because if
you're going to take the dies out of chips, what's
the chip.
Speaker 8 (37:34):
I'll be taking dies out of my red vines liquorice. Okay,
that's why I want them unhealthy here. I'm a vine
guy myself too. Twizzlers, We'll get to that another time.
It's like eat a good Year tire. I'll take red vines.
Speaker 9 (37:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
I was gonna say, you give me the choice.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
We are both in unanimous decisiveness on that one, all right.
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Tuesday, Okay, So when the fall kicks in after training,
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and we should do a year round. I don't even
know why we kind of that why we change up
pitch on days, but you know we always know Western
Wednesday Tejano Tuesday was big, was big for us, and
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people loved it. So we we mix it even if
we do it, you know, you know a couple of
times a month, but I think it's important we mix
it a Teano Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (40:12):
Then the DJ starts getting requests and they he did, Hey,
we got a bunch of us to play this one. Yeah,
so Tejano Tuesday was our was our go to bring
that back. Also the batting song for Mauricio Dubon, which
if there is a large enough crowd at the game,
you will have a crowd singing along to know.
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I like it.
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I like it.
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So yeah, we'll find it. We'll find a good name
label on a Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
It's it's it's a work, it's it's a working.
Speaker 8 (40:39):
Progress and we we can always adjust on the fly.
We'll move the goal post if necessary.
Speaker 7 (40:43):
There's no there's no focus groups around here. We are
the focus day to day for us.
Speaker 9 (40:47):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
That's it's day to day. But but but you're feeling better.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
I feel bad, feel better, But it's day to day. Yeah,
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Speaker 5 (43:38):
How about some good news.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
Luis Garcio works two innings of a rehab start for
the Florida Complex League team. Strikes out four, gives up
a hit and also a run, So two innings rehab starts.
I mean some of the other guys starting to make
some progress out there in Florida, trying to make their
way back. I mean Spencer Aarraghetty soon enough there probably
have to believe here in a week or two. That's
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also Christian Hobber going to be in that mold too,
So it would be nice to get at least one
of those guys back, because it does seem like arrag
Getty will be back at some point.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
I mean just for him.
Speaker 7 (44:13):
It's just building them back up, all of those different
types of things, and you know, spring training build up,
we get it. But he should be back hopefully August.
I guess when it comes to him, quit.
Speaker 8 (44:25):
Don't don't start setting yourself up for a schedule with
the Garcia fell for the trap door you did, you're
falling for the okie dope.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
Damn it.
Speaker 8 (44:35):
Sit back. I'm wrong because oh we got to that.
Now you're thinking we'll see him in a week and
a half. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
Am I right? True?
Speaker 7 (44:43):
You know what, when you're right, you're right, and you
well most of sometimes you're right. Sometimes I've been wrong,
Like twice in my life. Did it was hard to
under to accept?
Speaker 5 (44:53):
Really?
Speaker 9 (44:53):
Yeah, just twice a good batting aage, just twice that
it was the chips I chose.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
Yeah, No, I mean that can be. But the one
that sticks with the wrong is wrong.
Speaker 8 (45:02):
What I'm not wrong about is your falling into the
trap of you're getting sucked in, dad, They're you're getting
sucked in on the edge.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
Oh God gave you two itties.
Speaker 8 (45:10):
You'll be pitching, you'll be starting the gay after the
All Star break. No, first of all, they don't play
the day after the altar breaks. Secondly, don't set yourself
up for disdained Danny Dear's head.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
You're not wrong.
Speaker 7 (45:20):
Maybe that's maybe in a roundabout way, that's what I
was doing myself, is that it was you reverse psychology
in your saving maybe yeah, yeah, reverse psychology, what's maybe
that's not even the problem. Maybe passive aggressive. That's one
of my favorites. Now, Oh that person is so passive aggressive, right.
Speaker 8 (45:37):
Or you mean kind of like when somebody gives you
a take, but they say, well they could do this
and they could do that, and they don't really give
you a take.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
Yeah, well, they.
Speaker 8 (45:45):
May win a championship or they may uh, they may
not make the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
It's not a take football.
Speaker 8 (45:50):
Football, Yeah, make the playoffs, may may may win a
super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
That's my favorite instance.
Speaker 8 (45:56):
Like the doctor who says, oh, recovery time sick to
twenty four months. Oh way to go out throwing a limb,
big fella. We appreciate it. So yeah, I'm just I'm
gonna be I'm I'm your psychologist.
Speaker 7 (46:09):
It's like I told you one of my favorite Mike
Francessa's which, by the way, I heard a w f
A n y legend. There there you go, there you go. Yeah,
the godfather of our business. According to somebody we used
to use a drop on one of my old shows
of him. I could see them winning this game. I
could see him losing this game. It's like, what are
(46:31):
you going on a limb there? I mean, yeah, they
argue to do one of those two things. I mean,
if you don't have the ability for tie right then
then I think that probably that is going to happen. So,
you know, sometimes just take it. It's not sometimes take
a chance. Yeah, stay it with your chest. Well, put
it out there.
Speaker 9 (46:48):
There's a chance Garcile pitch this year, and then there's
a chance he won't.
Speaker 5 (46:52):
That's analysis right there? How's that? How's that for? Really?
Take it aside? Now, the analysis would be that I
don't see him pitching this hit.
Speaker 8 (47:01):
Yeah, well my analysis, I'm telling you, I don't think
you're seeing YOURDN swing a bat in July. I'm talking
about in a live Major League Baseball game.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (47:11):
And maybe that's reverse psychology for me trying to convince
myself if he shows up on July twenty fourth, it'll
be great. I'm just preparing that they're going to have
to roll through July without him and fortunate if you
get him in August, well then let's you know, make
sure that the dreaded inflammation doesn't come back.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
It rear its head.
Speaker 8 (47:30):
It does, Yeah, so I mean, I'm just trying to
I'm trying to temper your excitement Dan about the injury report.
Speaker 7 (47:36):
If he's just now going to start swinging about which
from all accounts, he didn't do yesterday. But if he's
just now going to do that, then you're going to
go to a t then you're going to go to
a soft toss. I mean, you just you understand the progression.
Trust me, we've all heard it now at this point.
But when at the point that you just brought up
after the All Star Break first game is what the
nineteenth I think the All.
Speaker 8 (47:58):
Star Game will be on a Tuesday. They will all
get to their cities and be ready to go on Friday.
So yeah, yeah, mean the Astros restart on Friday, because
there will be no series that starts on a Thursday.
I don't believe everybody gets equal to that. Won't every
series start on a Friday? Post all, I don't know
if there's a four game series coming out of the
All Star Break. For some reason, I feel like, Okay,
(48:19):
after the game, they get home to their families, then
they get to their teams, and then they travel or
if their family if they take a vacation and then
let's say you're getting ready to play the Giants and
you you went to San Francisco, you went to Wine
Country for two days.
Speaker 5 (48:31):
It's nice.
Speaker 8 (48:32):
Maybe you just stay there and meet the team there.
Whatever it is. But and I don't even know coming
out of it, are they at home or on the road.
But I'm just talking about the overall Major League Baseball.
Speaker 5 (48:40):
You're not wrong.
Speaker 8 (48:41):
Friday is the restart for everybody, because it would be
to get the proper rest. It would be unfair to
have because everybody ended on Sunday, well, or will end
on Sunday for the All Star break and then rolling
into that. You can't give one a four game series
coming out on a Thursday, I wouldn't think. And then
let everybody else get that extra break for Friday, so
they'll all start with, you know, a Friday, Saturday, Sunday series,
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and maybe some carried into Monday on a four gamer.
Speaker 9 (49:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (49:06):
But most of the time it's the three game series
coming to All Star breaks. So you're you're you're not
you're not seeing anybody send Buddy. I would just temper
it because they're they're they're surviving without him in a
big way. So if you need an extra three days,
give him an extra three days. Oh, I think it's
going to be extra maybe three weeks. Maybe that's right,
because he again, like I said, I'm even thrown in
(49:27):
the pain. You that that thing, Garcia is It may
take a month, it may take four days. I would
always air on the side when it comes to injuries
if you're a fan or media, air on the side.
If it's going to take longer.
Speaker 7 (49:37):
Well, I mean Jordon as it is right now, has
gone about let's see, what's two and two weeks or
two months in one week, that's nine weeks since since
he has seen a meaningful, honest pitch.
Speaker 8 (49:52):
Okay, So they had one game or he had he
had live batting practice one time, right, mm hmmm before
they shut him down again. Right, that was the fracture
one ye, right, last week or what ten days ago?
Whatever it was, right, Yeah, the last whenever it happened
a couple of days before and then Dan it came
on last week so whatever, yeah, special last week and
a half whatever it is. Yeah, I think it was Friday, Okay,
(50:14):
So if he has not if one time he picked
up the bat, and that's talking about where the ball
is flying off and it felt good.
Speaker 5 (50:22):
But one time where it was.
Speaker 8 (50:23):
Ramped up, okay, big time, and he and he had
to get shut down again. They're going to make extra
sure that three or four times and they ramp up,
they don't have to shut him back again. I just
don't see, just even on the on the simple time
we'll come out of the All Star break, it will
be today's what the eighth Let's see the ninth, tenth, eleventh, twelve, thirteenth, fourteen,
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fifteenth is the All Star Game. Yeah, fifteen, fifteenth, sixteenth, seventeenth,
eighteenth is Friday, Friday the eighteenth. He will not he
will not be playing for that series. No, so now
you're into eighteenth, nineteen twentieth. Now you're in the last
ten days of any and he's not in the minor leagues,
and it's just starting to ramp You're not seeing him
till August. Just under if you're fortunate, if if he
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doesn't have a setback, you just not.
Speaker 5 (51:06):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (51:07):
If you do, it'll be you'll be just as surprised
to see him as you were that it's now nine weeks,
if not more surprised, knowing the situation I would I
would be I would temper, I would think that I'm
gonna go dominate without him, and I think these next
five games are important to prove that.
Speaker 7 (51:23):
But then even when you get him back, he's he's
going to still be rusty. He's not seen live pitching.
Doesn't matter how much you give him at the complex league,
at the Triple A level, wherever it is.
Speaker 8 (51:33):
And are they going to give him fifteen straight days
of plan all this rest? His legs should be fresh
and ready to roll. So no, you're gonna they're gonna
put him in and think, okay, two games, let's give
him a little rest here today so it doesn't flare up.
So going through it, and then he's gonna have to
go down and make sure if he does go down
to minor leagues to get his some work in. It
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can't just be one game and certain normally if it
was just a temporary tend to you know, Okay, get
him back. This has been long, so they're going to
try to. I would imagine put him in a position
where how much stress can he handle with the physical
stress on it? Right, so you're not going to rush
and you have it and the advantage you have of
being able to do this is he's been out nine
(52:16):
weeks and you have created space for your baseball team.
So if just human nature is.
Speaker 5 (52:27):
Well, we're doing this without him.
Speaker 9 (52:29):
We need him.
Speaker 8 (52:30):
He's going to be huge in the middle of our
lineup if he's the Jordon we know and he's healthy,
But damn wouldn't you like a ninety nine point seven
percent healthy Jordon as opposed to an eighty five point
six because we got him back two weeks or there's
no way with that precious commodity are you going to
risk getting him back sooner than later? And maybe that
(52:51):
was the case. I got the feeling that when we
saw this that Jordon was urging them that this is
my feeling, this is my opinion that before they had
to shut him down again, that he gave them because
we never got a full is he one hundred percent?
Speaker 5 (53:04):
He was close mutual between two.
Speaker 8 (53:08):
So what happens when you're sitting in there, You're sitting
around like, hey man, Dan, how you feel?
Speaker 11 (53:10):
Dude?
Speaker 8 (53:11):
Sean, I'm good to go? Are you sure you sure
you want to do? You're sure you want to travel today?
Speaker 11 (53:16):
Dude?
Speaker 8 (53:16):
You just got off the flu. Why don't you wait
another day and we'll see in it. You know, on
a road trip. Now, I'm good to go. Your voice,
you're good, yeah, okay, and then you find out you're
not good to go. So and this in a more
serious situation because the hand. So I'm just saying you
have to you have to mindset your way, as do
(53:37):
they that we'll see in August if you're fortunate. That's
just the way I'm looking at it. And I may
be rom not a doctor, but my mindset is see
you in August. He ain't playing in July.
Speaker 7 (53:46):
In my opinion, it seems like it would be almost
impossible to screw something like this up, But yet somebody
out there did.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
We'll discuss that. Here.
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is the steakout and Sean, have you ever been to
Wriggley Field?
Speaker 5 (55:04):
Sorry, come on, son, have I been to Yeah? Of
course I've been.
Speaker 7 (55:08):
Well, I mean, I'm yes. Most times I gotta come correct,
and I just I just want to make sure.
Speaker 8 (55:12):
I want to make you come correct. Yes, I've been
to Wrigley Field. I was joking because you know, i'd
like all those historic sites, right stuff. Yes, and I
have been.
Speaker 7 (55:19):
So you know what one of the staples of Wrigley
Field is, right?
Speaker 5 (55:22):
Well?
Speaker 8 (55:22):
Are you talking about the beer? Well there is that,
there is old style. Are you talking about the gold
style beer? Are you talking about Dodge the Chicago Dog?
You could get that too. Are we talking about actually
Polish sausage?
Speaker 5 (55:37):
Maybe maybe even abroad? You know, throw that on there.
Speaker 8 (55:39):
It's the Midwest when you grow when the vines on
the wall grow and you get the ivy wall that's green.
Speaker 5 (55:45):
Yeah, the ivy out in the outfield.
Speaker 8 (55:46):
Yeah right, let's see what else is a staple, well,
staple Chicago. I mean there's deep dish pizza, but that's
not a project, they're right, But you're you're talking about
at or around the ballpark. Yeah, okay, A lot of
good bars in that big square that goes around there
is wavelands, were a lot of baseballs have all the
batting cage in it, which I got in there, probably
(56:08):
a little overserved.
Speaker 5 (56:09):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (56:09):
The guy finally was just like, all right, a couple
more swings and get out ready, right?
Speaker 8 (56:13):
Yeah, yeah, your your timing is a little off because
of those fourteen shots you had.
Speaker 5 (56:18):
I don't or just don't do a fifteenth. I don't
know what else.
Speaker 7 (56:21):
We talking about, Well, a little thing that is all
throughout baseball, but of course Chicago and the Cubs have
made famous over the years, that is the seventh inning
stretch normally hey, yeah, exactly. He was the one who
got it all started. And of course in Harry's memory,
they'll bring in different people to sing it like you
had Jeff Gordon who went there once and said it's
(56:43):
great to be here at Wrigley Stadium.
Speaker 5 (56:45):
He got booed. You can't call it that.
Speaker 7 (56:47):
You had kid Rock once who at the end, no
matter what the score is, you know, it's the you know,
you know, three strikes, you're at the old ball game.
Speaker 5 (56:57):
It's let's get some runs. Well, well, it's supposed.
Speaker 7 (57:01):
To be a tradition where it's not about you, it's
about the crowd that's there. If anything, you started off,
take me out to the ball and then stick the
microphone out the window of the press box for everybody to,
you know, start singing along.
Speaker 5 (57:16):
But you're hearing them as well. You join in on it.
Speaker 7 (57:19):
Well, are you familiar with Alex Cooper of Call Her
Daddy podcast?
Speaker 8 (57:23):
I'm not so now that you mentioned it, but I
don't know. I've seen clips, but I don't really know.
If if the person walked in here right now, I'd
have a hard time telling you who she used to.
Speaker 7 (57:33):
Be on barstool that podcast. Yes, I know that is
had had the whole That's where I've heard the name.
I don't know anything with Portnoy, who's got the IP
all all of that. Different types of stuff. Well, anyway,
Sunday night, Sunday night baseball. There Cubs and Cardinals, and
the Cubs are up I think, like eleven and nothing
at this point. So you got to believe that the
crowd would be in a really good spot, that they'd
(57:55):
be in good spirits because hey, the Cubbies are beaten
up on the hated Cardinals. Well then they now and
said Alex Cooper, not Alice Cooper, Alex of Call Her
Daddy is going to be singing take me out to
the ballgame. And this is how it went.
Speaker 5 (58:29):
Wait for it.
Speaker 4 (58:40):
Crowd is not feeling it.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
All right.
Speaker 5 (58:46):
That's enough. I can only handle so much more.
Speaker 7 (58:49):
So we also when because she was making it about herself,
she had like two of her podcast girls with her,
and she.
Speaker 8 (58:58):
Tried out was she trying to be like discovered as
a great karaoke person or something, either.
Speaker 5 (59:02):
That or making a mockery of it.
Speaker 7 (59:04):
I mean, I think that probably people looked at it
and were like, dude, this isn't about you, all right,
Like this is start off the song, stick the microphone
out the booth, and then stick the microphone back out
the booth, and then at the end of it, say
you know, let's get some runs Cubbies or something like that.
Some runs go Cubbies. Right there you go. But she
(59:24):
had again on radio, so you have to explain it.
She had like two of her podcast people.
Speaker 5 (59:29):
Were they like Gladys Knight and the Pips.
Speaker 7 (59:32):
Exactly and like almost like kind of like doing this
like goofy dance behind her and then at the end
they picked her up and held her up like almost
like she was like Mariah Carey during one of her performances.
Speaker 5 (59:43):
And people were just like, come on, man, like that's
not what this is for.
Speaker 8 (59:47):
What you do is you hold a beer up and
toast it right before you at the end, after you
say the go cubbies and hold a beer. But what
there I can tell you this and haven't been there
with plenty at times that lived there no a bunch
of people's Chicago.
Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
You can screw up a lot of things. Don't screw
that up exactly.
Speaker 8 (01:00:04):
That that's the one that's the equivalent of like when
for them, you know, when you go out, like your
buddy said, go out there, stand on the rubber and throw.
When you throw out the first pitch, don't stand. If
you're in a former athlete don't stand at the bottom
of the dirt. You stand your ass back at the
rubber and throw it exactly what do you throw? A
striker or not? Throw it hard and hopefully it hits.
Don't don't miss by seventy four feet unless it's over
one hundred by an hour fastball over their head. When
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you sing it that, they take pride in there. That
is you. You want them to join in. And then hey,
you know right whatever.
Speaker 7 (01:00:33):
I mean, you heard us, can't you know, punt there
and move out at the end. I guarantee there was
probably you know, a guy there. It's just like, I'm
not staying around for this. Anybody want a beer?
Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:00:43):
Yeah, hey, you know, tell you what do you want there?
They take their seventh inning stretch?
Speaker 11 (01:00:46):
What do you want?
Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
An old style?
Speaker 8 (01:00:47):
All right, I'm going to get Yeah they do. I
mean because God bless them, I didn't see it, so
I couldn't tell. I'm gonna have to go back and
look at what it looked like post the visuals.
Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
Yeah, why do that? And then God rest his soul.
Speaker 7 (01:00:59):
Mango Michael, remember he had one of the most famous
ones of I guess they got a rough strike three
call or something. Earlier in the game, Angel Hernandez was
behind on plate and he said, you know, this would
be a great game if it wasn't for that umpired
down there screwing things up. And you get Angel Hernandez
just leering up at where he is and it's like, Angel,
(01:01:20):
that's Mango brother. You ain't taking him to No matter
what mlbast says, they're not gonna say anything, but you're
just gonna have to deal with the flack of a
bad call in Mongo represent in Chicago as he always did,
it's supposed to be just have fun with it, but
also too, you don't make it about yourself, like I
think that you heard her right there, Duke.
Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
Now it's just like, come on, man, like.
Speaker 7 (01:01:41):
No, it's just it's it's not even about like nobody
cares about your singing chops, but it's the fact that,
like you're making it about yourself.
Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
That's why people start to.
Speaker 8 (01:01:49):
You want to make it about that there's forty thousand
people at Wrigleyfielder thirty five whatever it is, and if
they're all your buddy sitting next to you, singing together.
Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
That's it. Yeah, yeah, oh one too.
Speaker 8 (01:01:59):
If you need you could throw a karaoke party, you
would think she could sing, right right. I think it's
one of the great honors. And I love Chicago fans,
I do. I think it's one of the great honors
to somebody to ask you to sing the health They
might as well just stick you on the duck. I'd
rather do that than sit in the dugout for nine
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innings during a game, just because of that. That's how
they win the people over. Guys like Mongo Bill Murray
do it right. You know, even if you want it
at the end, give a little Hey, this bud's for you.
They'd love it because you pay a tribute to the
great Harry Carey.
Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
So because there are there are some who are canonized
in Chicago war, I mean Murray is one of those people.
Bill Bill Murray shows up. I mean he could do this,
and I think people would still be like, Okay, we
that's Bill.
Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
Murray, right of course, But he wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (01:02:46):
He'd been grandfathered in because he's a legend and he
did it right the first time.
Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
And Mike Ditka another one. Ditka had another good rendition.
Speaker 8 (01:02:54):
Oh yeah, if you're in one of the whether you're
a bear or a bull, if you do it right,
I mean, you won't buy a drink for the rest
of your life and they'll love.
Speaker 5 (01:03:03):
You forever and cigar.
Speaker 8 (01:03:05):
All right, chubby fans, Yeah, oh yeah. And what are
you going to say to him? Take a scholarship away?
If what about? It's not how the voice aids, how
you include the people that said, shave the mustache. You're
no longer the man we believed that you were. Nobody
has the balls to go up and say that, right, Yeah,
that old man is still tough. One hundred year old
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could still show up. Dan Hampton, I got some fun
stories I could tell you. One of the greatest nights
of my life was spent with me and Mike Didka.
You want to hear that story please? Yeah, I'll get
it to you whenever you decide we have time today.
One of the great stories of my life, just on.
I can't believe this was with Coach Dick and to
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this day he's one of I feel like, Mike Ditka
is my dad. That's not my dad, meaning Mike's always
treated me phenomenal, But more importantly, he reminds me of
the toughness that he bring. It was like my pops,
right and when I'm around, I don't want to say
that to you, like you're like my dad, Mike, but
he he like like it took me under his wing
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when he got to ESPN. Dude and a fun story
one night. And when Mike Ditka says you're going to
do something, I suggest you get on board.
Speaker 7 (01:04:17):
Well, it's like our buddy was Super seventy Sports with
Harry Carey for law Preferita Mexican food Products and his
caption forward is Harry Carey tells you to grab a taco, grab.
Speaker 8 (01:04:27):
A tak You don't grab a burto grab a taco.
That's exactly what Mike dick.
Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
After a long game at the ballpark. I'll share it quick.
I'll share with you next wait a couple of minutes.
Speaker 8 (01:04:35):
But I think you'll appreciate the type of guy Ditka
is because that tough exterior, but Mike's is good a
human being as you'll ever find. And I always get
nervous because I when he got a little he was
under the weather and was in the hospital a couple
of years ago. I called him and it's like, you know,
he's one of those guys you thinks is gonna live
till you.
Speaker 9 (01:04:54):
One hundred and fifty.
Speaker 8 (01:04:54):
You know what I'm saying. You just can't hard to father.
I love coach Chika, love him, love him.
Speaker 7 (01:04:59):
I'll be lit and along with everybody else right here.
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car cash all those other things that go with contracts
in the NBA. Just it confuses me at every single turn.
Speaker 8 (01:05:16):
Yeah, whatever happened to day that here's your contract, here's there,
all the little nooks and credit that go, yeah, it's
a max super max. He did this, We can do this.
We got to move. It's it's crazy, but it's that
is to the NBA. What fully guaranteed is to the NFL.
Speaker 9 (01:05:32):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (01:05:33):
Now.
Speaker 7 (01:05:33):
Deferred is to Major League Baseball, at least the Dodgers
in that case, that's exactly right. But the story about
Mike Ditka, I am eagerly anticipating.
Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
This and you may not love it for me is
one of the best times. Mike just how it was.
Speaker 8 (01:05:46):
Bro This is Mike Dicka, right, we're working together at ESPN.
He'd come on and was doing Sunday countdown and coming on,
you know, the sports centers and stuff. And listen, when
Mike Dicka walks into the room, it's there's a different
vibe and he's intimidating, but he's also that's Mike Ditka, right,
He's always let me tell you something, dude.
Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
Always perfectly quaffed.
Speaker 8 (01:06:12):
He even smokes a cigar and makes it look classy. Right,
he's always the shirts fit right, the suit always fits right,
the pocket square, he does it. I'm telling you the
way he pours this, what everything is. You think a
guy that tough, but he is meticulous and everything. It's
You'll never see Mike Dick in a bag a golf
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shirt that looks like it's three sizes too big. So
Mike is always it's just too you know. The hair
is perfectly with the proper amountage, everything right. Mustache looks
grand and a great lettuce on the hair does Mike's.
I've never seen Ditka with a five o'clock shadow. He's
either hair or not. It's not It does not matter
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what's going on during the day. And I'll give you
a perfect example. So we are doing our NFL Live,
me and him and Trey Wingo and the crew. We go,
you know how they'll do the camp stops. We did
like ten camp stops, and we go on a tour.
So we start out in the West Coast, go to
the Cowboys and we're n Oxnard. Then after we drink there,
then we fly to another city and then we fly
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to Indianapolis to go watch the Colts and do NFL
Live live from their practice facility. They'll set up and everything,
and it's it's Trey and Mike and I are every
single day and do an NFL Live from there. So
we fly to Indianapolis and we go to the Colts
practice and then it's time to fly, like we're headed
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to Philadelphia the next day, and we're having we're having
a blast in Mike's Mike you know, he doesn't mince words,
and we're having a blast. And they're sitting around and
it's hot, it's muggy in the middle of summer, and
he's still butting up when he sweats, like seems to
melt by the time it hits his shirt. Right the
rest of us are, you know, got it all coming down.
And so so we're in Indianapolis and it ends and
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we go the airport to fly to Philly. Mike doesn't
want to fly. Right now, we're at the airport drinking
beer and he wants a steak, and he's not ready
to go. We're literally at the airport. They call our flight.
Mike says, Shan, he goes, I am, I'm not going.
I'll see you guys there tomorrow. Trey Wing are our producer,
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all of it. Mike, he can't, and all of them
are getting walking the gate. Our boss calls the big
boss and said, well, insurance purpose, he's got to get
on the plane. Mike said, uh no, I actually don't.
So we're at this at the airport bar. Everybody starts walking. Sean,
you got to come, I said, let me tell you something.
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You know, and I've been there ten years, right, I said,
And I've been on that show since it started. I'm
like in Trey WINGO. And my boss is saying. I said,
I'm not leaving.
Speaker 9 (01:08:49):
Mike.
Speaker 8 (01:08:49):
Dick said, here, can you imagine all of us up
and leaving him?
Speaker 12 (01:08:53):
Now?
Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
He would he would have been fine, But I say, you.
Speaker 8 (01:08:55):
Know what I think in the long haul, showing loyalty
to him, I'm not going either. Mike looked at me
and goes called his assistant booked a private plane for
the next morning, and they're like, Sean, we got to
go interest. The boss is telling us to get on
the plane, and I'm like, well, I like my boss,
but I got Ditka. He will never forget and he
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never forget it. But I was having a good time,
like and Mike will be there. He said, get on
the plane, we will be there. I said, I'm staying
with Mike. I'm gonna make sure well, Sean take care
of him. Of course I'm gonna take care of him,
but he probably take care of me too. They get
on the plane and they are They're bothered by this,
and the bosses are pissed.
Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
But it's Ditka.
Speaker 8 (01:09:32):
So I said, if I'm going down, if you take
it him down, I go down before him, obviously, but
I'm staying with him.
Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
And he's never forgot to this day. We stayed there.
Speaker 8 (01:09:40):
He calls up and we walk into Saint Elmos, which
is one of the great steakhouses on the planet. Mike
wanted the cigars and a steak, and he wanted to
have wine.
Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
I stayed with him.
Speaker 8 (01:09:50):
They were all panicked, constantly contacting, shut out the phone.
We go to Saint Elmos. The rest of the night.
It's closed. He closed down closed. We're still eating and
he's smoking a cigar se almost and nobody else is
there but him and I. Now I ain't pulling that up,
but it was there. And then they closed it down,
locked the doors, and Dick and I are still in there. Celebrate.
It's one point thirty two in the morning. Greatest stay
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and Mike won't let you pay for anything. Go back
to the hotel. Wake up the next morning, dude, it's
I mean, we'd been working in this heat all day.
Wake up the next morning. He slept for like an
hour and a half. Private planes waiting on us. Meet
him downstairs in the lobby after about an hour and
a half with a sleep. Dude, he looked as if
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he'd slept for forty seven hours. Tie button. I mean,
I'm looking a him thinking as dude, I'm telling you,
to the point of like he was getting ready to
do a photo shoot. We get to the airport, Mike
and I are having a blast laughing about last night,
and it was great. The cigar was perfect, the steak
was off the chain, just the and we had so
many stories to shait I mean just being around him, right,
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And I'm thinking that one of the greatest decisions I
will have ever made is not the bail on on
Mike Ditka, because he'll never forget it. We get on
that plane, dude, We fly and they're worried we're not
going to make it on time.
Speaker 5 (01:11:05):
We get there.
Speaker 8 (01:11:05):
We're dressed up, make up, on a coat and tie,
laced up, sitting on the set. We beat the people
to the set that left the night before, and I said,
you guys went, you were worried about it. We got
on a private plane so we were more comfortable. We
got there before you, an hour and a half before
you were setting on the set ready to go. After
Mike's another cigar in the morning, We're ready to go,
talking Andy Reid on the side, getting ready to go.
(01:11:26):
When he was in Philly and you guys didn't have
any fun. You stayed in a dumb ass hotel and
I drank with Mike and smoke and smoked cigars in
ate steak till two in the morning because of Mike
Ditka and the one thing, And to this day, he'll
never he didn't forget it, because you know what that
loyalty of you know what, I'm going to take a chance.
And that was a chance because I could have the
reprimand oh, you're gonna slap my hand, okay, But I
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was taking care of coach Ditka and make sure he
got there right. Well, he took care. He wouldn't take
any money for the private everything. That's who he is, dude,
loyal friend, and I made the right decision, although I
was a little I'm going back to Bristol there I
got to barbecue my ass because of insurance. And they
told you, guys said well listen, I'm gonna take you.
I'll take a slap on the hand. Or even if
you said, well, Sean, sit the next couple of days
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out for this because you didn't pay attention, I'll do
that for Ditka.
Speaker 5 (01:12:13):
You never forgot it. And he was dude. He looked
like he'd slept for and.
Speaker 8 (01:12:16):
I'm thinking, I'm thirty years younger than this dude toy,
and he looks like he'd been ready for for a
for a f He was going to give a speech,
but we got on said it was a great secred.
We're satting and he's relaxing and talking to any We're
sitting there and said we beat them by an hour
and a half and we got a steak last night
and they ate a burger and a drive through. So
but that's who dick Is did and that was but
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the stories we shared that night I will never forget.
Some probably best left sure staying in my soul. But
he to me, coach dickas like family and is always
and he's had some tough love for me too what
needs to get done, and I'm I'm so grateful for him.
I love him and I'll never forget that night. It
was a great decision I made, and had they suspended
me for a week, I would have gladly taken it
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because it was worth it.
Speaker 9 (01:12:59):
But they didn't.
Speaker 8 (01:13:00):
And I have the Mike Ditka protection. So Sean was
with me, you don't do it. And when Dicka spoke,
most of the people in that building usually listened.
Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
So guy like I said, you sat up straight, and
the coach is here.
Speaker 8 (01:13:12):
And the truth is, there's a stuff I wasn't. I
wanted to fly out his private play and and I
wanted to eat a steak and smoke a cigar with him,
and plus I get the ball hog the stories right,
It's one of those things like, oh, it's just him
and I. It was really cool, and the people in
the restaurant did co walked in there. It's like, we'll
keep it open for it right now. We had nothing
to do with me. I had everything to do with him,
So I was grateful. And uh, I know he's not listening,
(01:13:34):
but I love I love Coachka, always will love him.
Speaker 7 (01:13:37):
I was gonna say, if Tony Dungee showed up, that
have been like a sorry coach will close.
Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
Probably not, They probably kept it open. But well no,
it would have been right, hey is that Tony? Hey,
break Tony in here? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:13:48):
Oh yeah, well ditto at Tony, who's not a drinkers.
I would have sat there with nothing but respect and
talking and had and he'd have showed up on time
the next day too.
Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
That that that's who. But put it this way, they.
Speaker 8 (01:14:00):
Would show up differently, Tony and Mike different personalities, but
both that same respect of understanding how to do the
right thing. And I love coach Man and I love
Tony Dunge as well. But that night with Mike Ditka,
I will never ever forget. And then the next morning
when I saw him, I'm like the dude slept an hour.
He's seventy and we had a steak and cigar and
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I can't wait to share that story with.
Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
Him from Cocktail too.
Speaker 8 (01:14:24):
It was fun, off the charts everything and then you
know what, Oh it's closes it the kitchen closed at midnight?
Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
Oh does it?
Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
Coach? Did case here?
Speaker 8 (01:14:34):
He and they'd let him go back in the back
and cook his own steak if he wanted.
Speaker 7 (01:14:38):
He got you got the cooks coming back, meat clean right,
will stay longer.
Speaker 8 (01:14:45):
And you know he's a great tipper. All those because
just all those things that people may not know about it.
But I can tell you this too, is that that's
a guy you want battling for you. It doesn't matter
how old he is, what have you, because he is
a complete he gets it.
Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
I love him. When I listened to him.
Speaker 7 (01:15:01):
He did a kickoff event that went to a few
years ago and at the end it got to the
Q and A and somebody asked him about Fridge for
Drader Perry and he was talking about, you know, he's
still going through some personal things, but you know, Fridge
is in a good spot overall though, you know, just
talking about just different guys that he was asked about,
and you could tell that he still keeps in contact
with his A game, Mike, let.
Speaker 8 (01:15:22):
Those guys play, and there's not you'll never he was
tough as a player, tough as a coach as well documented.
And you know McMahon used to drive him nuts, of course,
and Cod they battle each other, and I've heard stories
from both sides, but Mike the respect. And you know, Mike,
when you ask him about regret, I still think to
this day he's probably says his biggest regret is not
giving Walter Payton the ball in the Super Bowl score
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touchdown because of what Walter meant and I and it's
still I think to this day, I know it did
then it's still bothered Coach did I've heard him twenty
years ago and I get it. But he he he
knew how to let his players. You talk about a
team that police themselves when they came out of the
locker room to play you in a game I played
against him, Dude, they walk through that tunnel. That was
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as intimidating a group as you'll ever see, because they
they felt when they walked down of locker room they
were kicking your ass and defensively.
Speaker 5 (01:16:12):
In eighty five.
Speaker 8 (01:16:14):
They did it to everybody and those guys were left
over when I was just like, woa, these guys are
pretty good.
Speaker 7 (01:16:18):
That's why I love this story about when McMahon got
to Hallis Hall and they said that old man McCaskey
was taking a nap and he goes his ass, wake
him up. I got stuff to do today, exactly, use
a different word. That stuff you know, you get no doubt.
Speaker 8 (01:16:32):
So anything you know about Mike Dick hopefully good, but
the stuff you don't, he would change any perception you
have this day because he is a true.
Speaker 9 (01:16:39):
Gentleman when it comes to all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
Love him. Big fan, yep, big fan for sure.
Speaker 7 (01:16:43):
Speaking of a big fan, we are big fans of
Mike Ditka, but also big fans of this guy.
Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
Will explain right here.
Speaker 7 (01:16:49):
It is a Sean Salisbury show on Tuesday, Sports Talk
seven ninety.
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This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
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Sales.
Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 7 (01:17:01):
I saw this yesterday and this is something I'm sure
you'll probably get a kick out of. So Golf Digests
on July the fifth, so that is Saturday, puts out
a story and the caption of it's or the title
of it, Auburn football coach plays a lot of golf
in the Auburn football coach, of course, is Hugh Freeze.
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Well the caption in their tweet to promote said story,
the Auburn football program is having recruiting issues that some
are blaming on its coach playing too much golf. We're
huge fans of Lane Kiffin. Correct, Well, I mean I
know that you are obvious, and I think that most
people who follow college football are and getting to him
here in just a second, because the very next day,
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Hugh Freeze on Twitter, a great time at first annual
Ryder Cup between MMCC and BCC. I guess a couple
of country clubs there clubs right there in the Montgomery,
Auburn ople Aika area. The Cup comes home to Auburn
this year year. Great times. Here's Lane Kiffin, great job coach.
Game is on fire emoji.
Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
So a lot of.
Speaker 7 (01:18:08):
People probably think the job you know, he's he's tapping
them up. No, that's one hundred percent what he's doing.
Because this is where you come in, Sean. Isn't it
kind of one of those where in football coaching, a
look like you've been playing a lot of golf.
Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
Oh, I haven't been playing a lot of golf.
Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Matter.
Speaker 8 (01:18:23):
Even if they have, right, they'll deny it. Yeah, because
coaches have this, They want you to think that they
sleep at the office. They want you to think that
everything that they're on their free time, that they're watching tape,
that they're studying their opponent in June. That you're not
allowed to go play golf for one day because if
you do, you're not focused on your team.
Speaker 5 (01:18:42):
What are you doing?
Speaker 8 (01:18:43):
Oh you lost that recruit? You guys, you're on the course,
that's right. Like I said, I've compared this. I can
remember when when I was in Dallas whenever, because Romeo's
a big golfer, Tony Romo, he'd go out and like
playing some qualifying event for a tournament or try to qualify,
or go play golf in in March, not missing Mini Camperty,
play golf golf in March, and then he'd throw a
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pick in the fall. And you know what, the first
thing people would say, it's playing too much, damn golf.
Played golf. Yeah, yeah, if you wouldn't have played golf,
you maybe you wouldn't throw that pick. And they're serious,
It's like, you can't be that dumb if he played
golf the day before, has absolutely on his day off.
It has absolutely nothing to do with a picky throws
four days later. It's just stupid. But now if you freezes, says,
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I'll get to that recruit later. I got at holes way.
Now becomes a problem and they will remind him of it.
But oh, coaches that they don't ever want you to
think they have luxury time. Oh man, I've been grinding
fifty two weeks and I took a vacation for a
couple days. When I was watching tape the whole time.
They want, oh, there is no doubt. And then you
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go in their office and they're sitting there smoking a
grid or so. I was like, oh, yeah, grinding. But
they want you for the most part, they don't want
you to think you're living a life of luxury. No,
whenever you leave the complex, you're automatically going to make
a call or visit a recruit, or that you're still
and tape on your cell phone when you're at the
golf course in between shots.
Speaker 5 (01:20:04):
That's not realistic. Okay, this June's the time off for
a lot of these guys at July early on.
Speaker 8 (01:20:09):
Now they're kicking in post July fourth, But yeah, don't
tell a coach you're doing too much golfing.
Speaker 5 (01:20:15):
The first thing they'll say is.
Speaker 8 (01:20:18):
No, no, no, no, dude, I played like three times this offseason.
You mean thirty three times in the last two months.
But you want them to think everybody that, oh, dude,
you wake up and you eat tape for breakfast, right
that you're studying that that that player and that recruit.
Now that's not realistic. But coaches, do you want to
get into coaches saying, say, a lot of leisure time
(01:20:38):
for you this offseason. They're they're fighting words for coaches,
no doubt. That's pretty much what Lee says. So and
he knows it. He frigging knows it. And he knows
that again because right now, I guarantee Freeze is going
to be if he plays golf again before the season starts,
he's going to make sure it's in private where nobody
talks about it, right because he didn't want that same
troll job coming from lay.
Speaker 7 (01:20:57):
Whatever Cup put of course, yeah, yeah, that four star coach.
Speaker 8 (01:21:03):
Or watch what's gonna happen. Hugh Freeze is going to
put out one like in the next week that says,
the grind was still on the grund. Making sure you
know that he's focused on football down not golf. Oh yeah,
that's common. Keep an eye on his Twitter, that's common.
You're sure, yeah, coaches, And if he's got a chance
to score thirty more points in the fourth quarter, as
both of them will, and Lane's a type to go
if you score forty, Lane says, my handicap may not
(01:21:25):
be very good, but I know how to call plays.
That'd be something he'd say too, Jim, There's no doubt,
there is no question. Like I've said, he's Mike Leached
without being Mike Leach when it comes to we anticipate
his press conferences now because you know or is Twitter. Yeah,
he's he's He's a pretty priceless troll man in a
good way.
Speaker 5 (01:21:44):
Yeah, love them for it.
Speaker 7 (01:21:45):
Ye, something that happened in the Astros game last night
that disappointing for some, but I think it tells another story.
We'll talk about it here. It is Sean Salisbury Show,
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To usc true longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
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Dan matthewscuse es. This is the Sewan Salisbury Show. We'll
be talking a lot of shows. They lose last night
seven to five to the Guardians. Second game of the
series coming up tonight, Hunter Brown gonna be on the
mound for that. Luis Garcia two innings of a rehab
(01:22:47):
start yesterday in Florida with the Complex League team, four strikeouts,
gives up a hit and a run, but making his
way back from Tommy John surgery. Someone three two and
two five seven ninety is the number to get in
on the phone lines and Sean something that happened last
night that we've become rather used to not occurring last night.
(01:23:10):
So you get five and two thirds out of Colton Gordon.
That's nice because I mean, as I talked about on
the tenth Inning show, Gordon is a guy that you
get five innings out of him if he stretches at
the sixth. The second part is probably stretching the realistic
expectations that you can have for the guys. So five
and two thirds, he leaves a guy on base. Steven
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Okert comes out of the bullpen. Steven Okert has been
pretty good this year. I think we can agree on that, right,
no doubt.
Speaker 7 (01:23:37):
So he comes in, walks the first hitter and then
he gives up the double down the left field line
that just goes over east. Soak Perettis's glove. YEP, I
know some people Perettis has to have that, Sure, why not?
Perettis has played a really good third base, but gives
up the one earned run and that saddles Gordon with
the loss because the go ahead run was the fifth
(01:23:57):
one six to one goes to Okre with the wall,
so at that point it's six to four. But then
it's immediately after of like I said, whenever I see moments,
I'll search a name and just see what people are saying.
You've got people who are upset with Steven Okert, and
I'm like, you're looking at it the absolute wrong way.
(01:24:18):
This guy has been nothing but a bonus this year
for the team. And the fact that he gives up
one earned run when I didn't even go back and
look at what the last earned run that Steven Okert
gave up.
Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
But he gives up one earned run.
Speaker 7 (01:24:30):
And I'm even seeing the same things about caylib Bord
with the you know, insurance run home run that just
snuck into the Crawford boxes. I mean, Taylor Tremmel, if
it's a foot or two, that'll right, and I get it,
you know, if in woods and shoulds and all those
different things. But if it's an inch or two to
the right, he's got it lined up. It's a catch,
You're out the inning. There's there's no harm, no foul.
That's how good this bullpen has been this year that
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we're looking at two separate guys giving up an earned
run and we're saying, come on, guys, what the hell.
Speaker 8 (01:24:57):
I'm just trying to figure out. Well, I'm not trying
to figure out. I know the answer, but say it
out loud, is that the expectations are ridiculous and stupid.
There's too much that. I mean, I know that you're compartmentalizing.
And here's what happens. You do good and have one
bad game, people don't give you the hall pass. You
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do bad and have one good game, they'll focus on what.
Speaker 5 (01:25:19):
You look at.
Speaker 8 (01:25:19):
He's back, but the body of works if we forget
the body of work going in. So what's going to
happen if when and if Hater blows the save this year?
Are we going to say why? You will go to
Twitter and somebody say why do we pay him eighty
nine million or ninety three? Easily and there'll be more
than one that says it. Those you just got to
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take with the grain of salt and just say they.
And I'm sorry if you're one of those who does
that having an opinion on somebody. Now, if he goes
out there and walks seven in a row, he deserves criticism.
Give up a base hit, you know, get an earned run.
It's gonna happen. It's that the timing of it probably bothered.
I mean, not of that, but you know, depending on
what the timing is. When more people come out of
the world work in our man But the expectations we
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place on these guys to have to be perfect every night,
it's impossible. Can you imagine quitting on a player every
time he made it out? You'd hate al Tuve, right,
you know what I'm saying. Well, he's been doing it
great for a long time, I get it, but this
year he's been lights out. The bullpen's been lights out.
They're going to have him and the back end a
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brave who's gonna have one? He's been He's pitched like
an all star. We've seen Hater. It's the same thing here. Yes,
the memory's long when it's not good. The memory is
short when it is good. Does that make sense? Meaning
the people's approach like, oh, yeah, he's been great? The
what about now? What's going on? How come he couldn't
get him out white? And I understand people's opinion. Just
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because somebody has opinion doesn't mean I've got to buy
into it and then I have to agree with it. Okay,
you can have all the opinion you want to beat
him down over one earned run. If and you went
and saw it, it's baffling to me. It's the people
unrealistic and quite frankly, it's eye rolling.
Speaker 7 (01:27:05):
It's one of my favorites. Oh that's just my opinion.
What doesn't make it right? Yes, well that's my opinion. Great,
your opinion sucked, but that's okay. And if you literally
are honestly got a problem with him, then you haven't
watched the full season and you just turned in, then
you finally just tuned into baseball today right or last night.
Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
So now for me, I'm not.
Speaker 9 (01:27:31):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (01:27:32):
If it becomes a pattern, then you do it. His
pattern this year has been really good and it's gonna
happen one earned run and like you said, I don't
know how long, but he's been pretty solid.
Speaker 7 (01:27:41):
Well, I mean the group as a whole that has
no doubt and really good doesn't mean that they're infallible.
Speaker 8 (01:27:46):
There's an efting really good and perfect and even hater.
It's even then you get out and you get a save.
It might have been a high leverage, stressful save where
you're gonna go back, Oh, I got to save. But
if you're Josh Hady saying, you know what, I got
to locate better, we were fortunate to get out of it.
Got a slow roller, got rolled over on one, got
out of it. And he may not even even pitched
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his best. Hell, you could be pitching great. A guy
throws his bat out there and boom, hits the ball
down the line or hits a gapper and you're like,
how did he hit that pitch? Well, it happened, So yeah,
we're unreal realistic in all of it. When there's a trend.
It's one thing when it just happens. That's called baseball
and pro sports. It's gonna happen. It won't be the
last time somebody hits drives in a run off him.
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It will not be the last time.
Speaker 7 (01:28:28):
Let's just use Brian abrew you for example. You know
how many times he's given up one earned run in
an outing this year? One twice, well, at least one
is the better way to describe it. A couple times,
three times twice against the Mariners, and then once was
the walk off two run job with the runner on
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base when he came at the end of the game
in Sacramento.
Speaker 5 (01:28:52):
But three times this year.
Speaker 7 (01:28:54):
So that's again, it's the expectations that we build up
where in this series, the Rangers series, whatever it is,
a break you God forbid, gives up an earned run unrealistic.
Speaker 5 (01:29:05):
Now, the thing about the timing of it will bother
people too. Even more.
Speaker 8 (01:29:07):
You give up an walk off, let's say you're closing
because hater is not available and you're closing walk off
that then it's like, oh, how could he do that?
Speaker 5 (01:29:17):
Get him out of the closer. You know how that goes.
Speaker 8 (01:29:19):
But for the most part, he and a handful of
those guys in the bullpen have been damn near unscorable
this year. On them, you just haven't and they've been
l he has. So there, it's going to happen. It's
going to happen. And yes, at some point this year,
I'm sure Josh Hater will blow as safe. I hope not,
because I'm sure it will happen. You can still have
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a phenomenal, spectacular year and and have one game where
it's like you could actually make a good pitch and
still lose a game, right, or good pitch happens all
the time, So yeah, I don't get caught up in
I try to compartmentalize. When there's a trend happens once, happens,
happens twice, you get it happens three times. Uh, that
that starting to become a trend. You know, a guy
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hits a batter or walks three batters three straight times
he performs, then that's a trend. We got to get
to the bottom. Guy happens to walk two batters in
one game and hasn't walked one in thirty seven innings,
And then I would have matagined it's just one of
those days.
Speaker 7 (01:30:14):
Well, it's just like, you know, for Hater, for example,
the Astros when they beat the Rockies and that was
the Tuesday opener of this series. They had a two
run lead. He gives up the home run there, and
I'm just wondering if people are starting, Oh, here's Josh
Hater again, It's like.
Speaker 5 (01:30:30):
Why'd you pay him?
Speaker 11 (01:30:31):
Right?
Speaker 7 (01:30:31):
He still has another run to work with. You do
understand that, right, And what's the job of the closer
to close the game out with you ahead and put
it out and win? Yeah, with an s still a save? Yes,
it's I mean we want him to throw nothing but
strikes get everybody out. Yeah, we all love the clean
innings and perfect games, but that's not realistic. And realistic
is They've exceeded realistic expectations already this year in.
Speaker 9 (01:30:54):
The first half.
Speaker 8 (01:30:54):
They're well ahead of not just wins and losses the
wins paces, but well ahead of the optics of what
we expected from them.
Speaker 5 (01:31:03):
And it's nice. You just can't they can't think like that.
We can.
Speaker 8 (01:31:07):
They got to think like, well, we need to win
this division by twenty games.
Speaker 5 (01:31:10):
Sure, and that's got to be the approach.
Speaker 7 (01:31:13):
Well, I mean, I get frustrations but it's also too
I mean, but you got to get over them quick
in a one game Thingpive absolutely. I mean that's what
I think kind of you know, boils into all of this,
is that your nineteen games above five hundred, you're six
and a half games up in the division. I understand
that things can change. We saw it go a good
way for the Astros last year. They're trying to guard
against that now.
Speaker 8 (01:31:33):
Hence why at six and a half you want to
make take every advantage to extend that a couple more
games with some help from some friends against Seattle in
these next five games, and you go take care of
your business.
Speaker 5 (01:31:43):
So when you go into the All Star, breaker's saying
we're up eight.
Speaker 9 (01:31:46):
And a half.
Speaker 5 (01:31:46):
So we're Yankee fans right now.
Speaker 8 (01:31:49):
Whatever it takes, I gas, whatever it takes. I'll root
on anybody that's the closest person the division. I'll root
for that team. I don't care if it's the hated
team that you can't stand. Of course you're rooting for
them because you want this extended seven eight, nine games
if you can possibly pull it off, and then guess
what happens that rest you were talking about every now
(01:32:10):
and then we can give them an extra one.
Speaker 5 (01:32:12):
So problem.
Speaker 7 (01:32:13):
Speaking of one of the groups we just mentioned right there,
they're topical because somebody that's associated with them has a
dire warning that I think even Astros fans could subscribe to.
We'll discuss it is the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 10 (01:32:27):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (01:32:28):
Also check this out.
Speaker 11 (01:32:29):
I should have warned you if Sewn only cares about
cold hard.
Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (01:32:39):
A lot of good money and resources going to help
people who need it in the worst way right now.
And I still too. You know, we'll get to what
I teased here in a second. But Scott Ruskin, the
guy that rescued those girls, I mean, I saw yesterday
on social media and I can't echo this enough. Not
another meal, not another drink, nothing. Don't even charge the
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guy taxes for the rest of his life. Yeah, this
guy's done. You know how I am about the term
civic duty. Whenever you hear somebody say it was their
civic duty, immediately discount anything they did because it was
more for them than it was for anybody else. This
guy did it for these kids and for these people,
And there's a lot of happy families today because of
this guy what he.
Speaker 8 (01:33:22):
Signed up for, right right, didn't back down and know
going in that you're going to be in those situations
you hope never I'm sure it's the same as a
police officer. They probably hope they never have to draw
their gun right right, in a situation, they probably hope
they don't. But if you're saving a family or they
keeping people out of harm's way, hen's why you learn
to do it. It's the same here. This is we're fortunate,
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in unfortunate circumstance and horrific circumstances that we have a
group and groups of people and guys like last name Ruskin, Right,
he liked that first responder and Coastguard rescue mission to
be able to go in there and put his life online.
But he signed up for it, and that's what he knows.
You just hope you never have to use it, but
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you know you will. And God bless him and all
those that are continued to go through this. I'm sure
they're exhausted, but you know what, the Good Lord finds
will give you some extra energy when you're battling through
this trying to find everybody, So not only for closure
if somebody has been lost, but also I always hold
out the hope that there's a miracle going to happen.
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You're gonna find more alive. And I'm sure he did too,
and saved plenty of them. Well, and that's also to
and he'll probably look at it like it's never enough
because he didn't save them all right at their approach.
But God bless folks like that. One hundred and four
confirmed dead right now.
Speaker 7 (01:34:39):
I remember hearing that, oddly enough, it was that Rescue
Swimmer movie that Kostner and Ashton Kutcher did, and Kucher
asked him something like, you know, hey, how many age
you save? He goes, I never remember those. It's always
the ones that I didn't save that I remember.
Speaker 8 (01:34:55):
Yeah, that's exactly who's counting. On the good side, you
expect to save them all. That's at your calls.
Speaker 9 (01:35:00):
And it's like athletes and wins and losses. I don't
remember the wins very well, but I sure as hell
remember the losses and the struggles. I'm sure, in a
much more important situation than sports, that if you don't
save them all, I'm sure, even though if it was
out of your control, I'm sure that there's that feeling
of that you didn't accomplish what you wanted to accomplish,
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even though it would be completely out of your control.
But that's why they're built different, and that's why they
put their life on the line.
Speaker 8 (01:35:26):
And you never want these things to come up, but unfortunately,
in life they do, and mother Nature is a powerful
force and it hit his hearted.
Speaker 5 (01:35:36):
It will look back and.
Speaker 8 (01:35:38):
Think that this is one of the more devastating things
that's ever happened. And I again cannot fathom what those
parents are going through. And for some on social media
that are claiming our playing that and when unfortunately there's
two of them from right here in Houston that have
(01:35:58):
been all over social media that are a disgrace and
an embarrassment to this community and to these kids and
to race and to religion and to just being They're
just bad human beings. And you guys know who I'm
talking about. Okay, If not search all over Twitter trash
(01:36:18):
is what that is. If you can't, if you can't
get through and get over who you voted for when
it comes to saving kids, This had absolutely zero to
do with who you voted for. Mother Nature didn't care
God didn't all of a sudden say, you know, I
think I'm gonna punish somebody who voted different of that
or because well, because the election turned out, and I
(01:36:40):
think I'm gonna just keep a big storm on you.
So you guys can all make it about race. This
has nothing to do with it. And if that's your
first thought, you're just a horrible, horrible human being. And
unfortunately for the city of Houston and this area in
Texas and that there's a couple of them, and probably
more than that, that sure as hell don't represent the
majority of the world people feel about this tragedy and
(01:37:02):
have used it in.
Speaker 9 (01:37:02):
The wrong way.
Speaker 8 (01:37:03):
And you know what, karma has a really bad way
of working out, and I hope it doesn't come in
the form of these with these kids had to suffer.
But I've got zero compassion for anybody who blames this
on politics, or on race, or on anything else, because
it is it is.
Speaker 9 (01:37:20):
They're gross and.
Speaker 8 (01:37:22):
Those two in particular are pigs, flat out pigs, and
and any flac they get for what they've said about this,
and with these grieving families and for those who don't
even have families that are grieving for friends and significant
others and their families to say what they've said. They
are just there's a there's a safe place in hell
(01:37:43):
for these people. Well, when I say say a safe
place in hell meaning you're gonna go in there and
you're there's a seat waiting for you to wish this one.
These people awful trash and if you know them.
Speaker 9 (01:37:55):
You probably choose better friends. Awful.
Speaker 5 (01:37:58):
I can't it.
Speaker 8 (01:38:00):
It is the fact that we were even discussing this
is sick. But the fact that we're still that instead
of support and if you if you're not, if you're
not moving it forward and helping, you're in the way.
And then when you throw your verse, has she been
out there to help? No, obviously she hasn't, because why
she thinks this is deserved. A couple of them, Yeah, trash.
(01:38:21):
It's complete trash. And if you know them and you're Sean,
that's somebody I know good. They're trash, period. Shout out
to Mattress, Mac Gallery Furniture.
Speaker 7 (01:38:29):
No surprise, they're already pitching in supplies everything else.
Speaker 5 (01:38:33):
Yeah, and you know he always did.
Speaker 8 (01:38:37):
Do you think Mac would make a decision based on
who you voted for and saving a life? I don't
care what well, I can just tell you wait when
you're doing that, who your family or what happened that
has nothing to do that.
Speaker 5 (01:38:51):
We're talking about children and their families here.
Speaker 8 (01:38:54):
You you have got to step outside and then the
stress that these families are going through and the people
trying to save them. Now, Mattress Mack has got one
goal in this to ease the pain that these people
are going through and to save whatever you can. And
there's there's a whole bunch of other people that feel
the same way. Every now and then you run into
trash out there. As I mentioned, those two females on
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social media are at the top of it to turn
this into what they've turned it into. They ought to
be ashamed and they are disgraceful. Mattress smacks into everything,
but that the best for sure.
Speaker 7 (01:39:27):
And Scott Ruskin back to him an interview he did.
The kids were so brave and tough. If you guys
are listening, you guys were the best. I'm sorry this
happened to you guys, but you guys were so brave
and tough. It made me a better rescuer because you
were acting so bravely.
Speaker 5 (01:39:43):
It's perspective.
Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
Man.
Speaker 8 (01:39:44):
I mean when you when you see the photos and
the twin girls who passed away, I just it gets
it's hard to talk about. I mean, we talk about
it and do whatever you can to help, but you
feel helpless. But I just can't fathom what those families
are going through.
Speaker 9 (01:39:59):
I can't.
Speaker 8 (01:39:59):
It's hard enough from a distance and not being able
to help, but thinking what would you do? What would
you do? I don't know. I it'd be hard for
me to handle, dude, it really would, and I'm sure
a lot. And July will never be the same for
these families, not alone the rest of their lives. But
when this time comes around and people are celebrating, that's
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this will never be a celebration for these families again,
and for those who tried to save lives and did.
Speaker 7 (01:40:26):
I almost kind of feel like this weekend you felt
that all the way around, Like it was, Hey, it's
July fourth weekend, it's holiday all that. But I mean
I even think like here, it just hits so close
to home that people were just kind of like, maybe
not this year. Ye well and rightfully so, rightfully so,
And I'm not gonna and nor should we begrudge anybody
who did celebrate with their family that sitting in Cape Cod.
(01:40:48):
I mean, I get it, but man, we got some
really good people and the people who are heinous that
we've just talked about do not represent the majority of people. Now,
media are or social media may paint that there's more,
and I'm sure there is, but the majority of people
are sick over this, and the families, I mean, their
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lives will never be the same. Well, I mean, again,
what do we talk about on a lighter note earlier? Oh,
that's just my opinion. Well, it doesn't mean that it's right.
And then guess what your opinions can get you fired. Yes,
that's part of it.
Speaker 8 (01:41:21):
Well why would that your opinion?
Speaker 9 (01:41:24):
That's fine?
Speaker 8 (01:41:24):
And when they say, well, it's freedom of speech, yeah,
but it's also their freedom to make it.
Speaker 5 (01:41:28):
You want the employer to say, I don't want you
as an.
Speaker 8 (01:41:31):
Employee, freedom to say whatever you want. Yeah, you also
have the freedom to not show up for work. And
if you don't show up for work for three days
without an excuse, guess what, you won't have a job.
And if you have the freedom to speech your speech,
you've have a freedom to say. It doesn't mean when
you overload your mouth with your ass and we have
to accept it, Okay. And when it comes to this,
anything that comes out of anybody's mouth that's anything but
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caring and empathy and being just human, being a good person,
Anything that comes out of your mouth that isn't in
support of finding these people and and doing all we
can to help them get through this. Whoever that whatever,
your friend, or whatever, anything or just shut up and pray,
(01:42:17):
whatever it is that you do. But to do some
of the things they do and blame it on the
things they said, looking for a political opportunity, for some
clout and to get clicks, it's a bloody embarrassment. It's
an embarrassment, and they're disgraceful. And thank goodness for all
the good people. There's far more of those than there
are the very few that make you make you shake
your head, say, how is anybody born with this kind
(01:42:38):
of DNA that would wish this on somebody?
Speaker 7 (01:42:40):
Stupidity is tolerated. Now, I've said it numerous times. It's
almost a oh, well, that's just who they are. They
don't know any better. Well, guess what part of being
an adult is you know better?
Speaker 8 (01:42:50):
And well, lives have been lost for kids that had
nothing but an incredible future ahead of them, and their
families now have to live with that forever. And then
read this trash that some of these people say on
social media.
Speaker 9 (01:43:02):
Shame on them, man.
Speaker 7 (01:43:03):
That's why, that's why I'm going to focus on people
like Scott Ruskin, mattress Mack, others who are.
Speaker 8 (01:43:08):
Actually donate and care and put elbow grease into going
and put their lives on the line, no doubt, because
no matter what words we say, it's it's these families'
lives have been disrupted and put into chaos. How they
handle it. Obviously, ten years from now, it's still it's
never going away. No, you hope it gets you. Hope
(01:43:28):
it gets more under that they get more comfort going on,
knowing that the twins daughters were together and maybe they
were able to comfort each other in a quick moment.
I don't know you do how whatever you find comfort in.
But the one thing I know about Texas, the rally,
the rally and cry that we have in this state,
I think is on parallel. There's good people in every state,
(01:43:49):
but I'll put Texas up against any when it comes
to caring, and those those two ladies from Houston that
we know well have been you know well documented. They're
not a representative of what a human being is. Trash
and you got people and you should treat that trash accordingly.
Speaker 7 (01:44:03):
I mean, like I said, I mean, you got people
from others. I've shouted out the United Cagean Navy. I mean,
I said, they always post.
Speaker 8 (01:44:09):
There's gonna be a plenty of people that are going
to make it, make a difference that you'll never hear about.
Speaker 7 (01:44:13):
And that's okay. Well, so I mean most of them
wanted that. That's exactly right, saying like this is somebody
you just can't hide. You're raising and you're delivering good,
but you're not out there pining for that. You're out
there pining for how can we find a miracle and
make this more h Well, if you can find comfort
in this at some point, if you're a fan, I
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don't know how they're ever going to but God works,
they'll they're going to get through it. But trying to
think about how they're going to get through, because I'm
saying they are, because if you said I was going
to get through, I wouldn't know what my answer would
be for you.
Speaker 9 (01:44:47):
Right now, Dan if it was me in their situation.
Speaker 8 (01:44:49):
So God bless those families, man and all those who
help absolutely.
Speaker 7 (01:44:53):
And we've got the link posted to the fund that
is going to help the victims there in Central Texas
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back into some baseball discussion because I mentioned a dire
warning that even Astros fans could listen to.
Speaker 5 (01:45:14):
We'll do that next.
Speaker 7 (01:45:15):
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And it's like Joe Pistone, the guy that was Donnie Brasco,
was recently on Rogan and his line was, I didn't
know if I was going to be made or whacked
that day, So dealing that world a tough.
Speaker 5 (01:47:33):
Way to wake up. Am I gonna do?
Speaker 8 (01:47:35):
Is somebody gonna take me out and take a shovel
to my head and bury me alive? Or am I
gonna be a maid man and I get to make
more money and call the shouts?
Speaker 7 (01:47:41):
That's why That's why Mob movies it always cracks me up.
If people all got really sad at the end, I'm like,
of course it got sad. Everybody either died or they
went to prison. That's how that life is.
Speaker 8 (01:47:51):
That's going in, you know, that's the way it's going
to be more than likely coming out. Michael frenzies, right.
And if and if not, guess what you were. You
were an informed and you're you're probably under your head's
on a swivel the rest of your life. So, I mean,
you know, going in, there's about three or four different
things are going to happen. You just hope you're in
the right land for the one that does happen. M
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and you get out of it alive. He turned yeah,
he turned rat.
Speaker 9 (01:48:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:48:15):
Now, you don't want that applied to you when you're.
Speaker 9 (01:48:17):
In the mafia.
Speaker 7 (01:48:18):
Now, even when you're on the other side, you know,
it's it's one of those that it sticks with you.
Speaker 5 (01:48:24):
But ye, anyway, family, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 7 (01:48:27):
Once you're into this family, there's no getting out. Seven
two five, seven ninety is the number to get in
on the phone lines. Do you want to get back
into the Astros conversation because mentioned that dire warning. I
do think it's one that Astros fans need to listen
close to because I think it applies.
Speaker 5 (01:48:44):
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This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.
Speaker 7 (01:51:05):
Talking a little bit of Astros here, and you know, Sean,
we've talked about it all the time, of retooling, rebuilding,
all of those different things that fan bases throw out,
and I think that we do it a lot here
in Houston because I don't think anybody out there is
pining for the full on rebuild at any time that
we saw the Astros do in twenty ten. Because you
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also have to remember it was building up for that.
The farm system was terrible. You had aging stars in
Lance Berkman, Royo's while at Hunter Pence few other guys
that we're not going to lead you back to where
you wanted to be, and that was making it to
the World Series, and as a matter of fact, since
they made it to the five World Series, they hadn't
been back to the postseason until they got to the
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Divisional round in twenty fifteen. But that seemingly is thrown
out as a possibility quite a bit. And I'm bringing
up both of those are words retooling and rebuilding because
Michael Kay, who does the TV broadcast for the Yankees
on Yes Network, also host an afternoon drive radio show
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up there in New York. He was talking about that
very thing where he had talked about Yankee fans saying, oh,
we got to be sellers at the deadline, where it's
it's just not our way this year, and he goes,
you're three games back of the Al East lead, like,
still a lot of baseball left to go.
Speaker 5 (01:52:23):
Let's go there.
Speaker 7 (01:52:24):
But then it gets to the other R word, and
I feel like, again for some Astros fans who throw
it out at times, this could be a dire warning
for you.
Speaker 5 (01:52:33):
So, so what's your question to me? It was audio
that we're supposed to hear from Michael Kay. Oh, okay, I.
Speaker 13 (01:52:40):
Love, by the way Yankee fans, and so oh they
should be rebuilt.
Speaker 11 (01:52:44):
They should rebuild, reload. Really, you couldn't take losing in
the World Series.
Speaker 13 (01:52:50):
You went to the World Series last year and now
you've had a bad three week stretch and you want
the manager in GM fired and you want to reload,
and you're gonna be able to handle that.
Speaker 11 (01:53:00):
You can't handle losing in the World Series.
Speaker 13 (01:53:05):
Imagine finishing last in the American League East. Imagine some
people need their head screwed on a little bit better.
Speaker 7 (01:53:17):
And again, I mean where I've even seen some people
calling for, hey, should we trade fromber should we entertain trading?
Even I'm trying to, well.
Speaker 5 (01:53:26):
They've tried to.
Speaker 8 (01:53:27):
There's a bunch of people don't want your don traded,
right because they think because they think he's injury.
Speaker 5 (01:53:31):
Probably got we got the question yesterday once.
Speaker 8 (01:53:33):
Again, your opinions, People with their opinion always all always
validate your opinion. I don't have to agree with it,
nor do I have to say it's an opinion that
I care about, But nor do they have to care
about mine or yours. But opinion is just that opinion,
and they're kind of like everybody's got one right, But
to me, Michael Kay's right. And I understand that every
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day's like I said, every days, you're judging every day different.
That's why we come on every day, do a different
show every day, do something. I mean, it's going to change.
That's that's called sports, and that's why we love it
because you really never know what the outcome is going
to be, unless you know, we know what the outcome
is going to be. For Colorado this year, they're not
making the playoffs. Okay, we've already decided that. But in
the Yankees case, I've never understood, and maybe this is
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archaic thinking. First of all, don't tell a player on
most teams that you should be selling when you're in
the hunt, because basically, when you start to sell, can
you imagine selling in your three games out of first place,
or your three games up in first place, or you're
right around, can you imagine selling, because aren't you.
Speaker 5 (01:54:42):
Doing a disservice?
Speaker 8 (01:54:43):
Aren't you basically telling your franch ay, we're three games
we quit on this year?
Speaker 7 (01:54:47):
Well, the Astros benefited from it, remember when they got
Kendall Graveman. You have the Mariners players who are like,
what are we doing? We're in the hunt. We're trying
to catch these guys. So if you're going to tell
me that every year is different and we're trying to
win all the time. I'm not talking about Astro, I'm
talking about overall.
Speaker 5 (01:55:00):
In sports. You can't you can't have both.
Speaker 8 (01:55:04):
You can't say, well, we care so much, but we're
going to sell because only three games that you're basically
saying you don't trust the players on this roster to
make up three games and get it done after in
the Yankees case, they were in the World Series, I
mean just that quickly. Hell, look, I mean now, I understand.
Look what happened to Nationals. Both the manager and the
GM both fired, and they're not very good, but they
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still got a ring on their ear least, you know,
does Martinez have one? He was a manager at the time,
and obviously Rizzo was as well. The point is in
this case, it's it's absurd. If I'm within seven eight games,
five games, six games, and my team, I got a
good roster and I'm getting healthy, why would I sell?
I'm not And I know people I think different. As
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a player, I didn't care about four years from now,
and as I sit here today, I don't give a
fuzzy rats ass about the Astros. Right today in a
twenty twenty five seas I don't care what twenty thirty
two looks like. I don't care. I don't even know
what twenty thirty two looks like in my life. Why
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would I give a rats ass what it looks like. Well,
if you got this guy, if we go and trade
it for this guy, imagine what it's going to be
like in twenty thirty five. All the while, people are
bitching the eight ears that you've had to suffer because
you sold. Now, there's a time and a place for it.
A fire sale comes once in a while, or some
where you've decided crap, can you're selling whatever it is.
I get those, but it's absolutely ridiculous. If I'm within
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five games of you, that's two series. That's a five
game losing streak for you, and a five game winning
streak for me that I'm tied for first place. I
never bail out on a season unless the season's been done,
you know what I mean. You're mathematically eliminated, or you're
the Colorado Rockies. There what in another month, they will
be mathematically eliminated. But when I'm within five games or
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so and I'm the Yankees or I'm the Astros or
I'm the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (01:56:57):
I'm not selling for squat. I'm not selling for squad.
Speaker 8 (01:57:01):
I just don't understand the thought process of well we
quit on it, because let's worry about twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (01:57:05):
I don't care about next.
Speaker 8 (01:57:06):
Year right now. I'll worry about getting fromber when this
season is over. I've got one goal and only one.
That's not just to win the division. If I'm the Astros,
my goal is simple, here win the championship, and if
we are in within a few games, the first place
I trust. See I'm sending the messages. I trust my
guys to get it done.
Speaker 3 (01:57:23):
Now.
Speaker 8 (01:57:23):
If you're just a turd and you're not any good,
and you're overpaid, and you're just not producing and you're
a bad attitude, then cut them, move them on DFA
and whatever you got to do. But I'm not selling. Well,
if we sell now twenty thirty, I'll look really good.
Speaker 5 (01:57:38):
Guess what.
Speaker 9 (01:57:39):
I don't care about twenty thirty. I'll care about it
when I'm within straight now.
Speaker 8 (01:57:42):
When it comes to a big contract, well, I signed
a guy to a fourteen year deal, well, twenty thirty four,
he may not be very good. I get how we
think about that, but when it comes to winning, I
have you told me a spring training If you're the Yankees,
the Astros, Dodge, we got a chance to win the
whole thing, live on it now. If the Astros were
twenty seven games out by the All Star break, you
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probably would trade. You probably would take on trades for Fromber.
You'd at least listen, you know, if you didn't think
you could pay him. But I'm also at it. If
you think you can pay him, and this is who
he is, this guy, you pay him or you try
to keep him here if it's reasonable. I just I
don't think like the I'm not worried. We spend too
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much time worried about twenty forty. I ain't worried about
twenty forty in anything. I'm worried about can you get
through this All Star Game, win these next three or
four or five games of the five left, and get
yourself ready and go. If you're the Yankees and Michael
K's one dred percent correct, how quite frankly, how stupid
can your opinion be to say sell, to just say sell, Yeah,
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let's say just sell. Why I got a share we
were in the world sit I got a chance won
the World Series. We're pretty good, getting healthy, and everybody's
trying to put some wins together. I've never understood the
philosophy of preparing for twenty especially I'm talking about on
a championship caliber team like the Yankees, like the Ashes.
I understand if you're the Colorado Rockies, why you're gonna
clear House Well, Washington Nationals, I get it, But I
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don't get it if you're the Atlanta Braves and you're
within five games, decide, you know what, let's move like
four of these guys. Now, if you're just cheap and
don't want to pay their contract, fine, But then you're
also telling me you don't care about the team. I
care about the guys that are here now. I'm not
worried about who's going to be here in twenty thirty
five and or twenty thirty or twenty twenty eight for
that matter. Championship and if you compartmentalized, every season to
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me is just a one year contrac or you're a
fighting for your friggin baseball life to go win it.
I've never understood the philosophy of we're close, let's sell.
Speaker 5 (01:59:39):
That tells me.
Speaker 8 (01:59:40):
To me, that's a bottom line thing, because you know what,
seven years from now, if you sell and you're not
any good, you're just gonna hear the bitching. For me,
I want to go all When I got a chance
to go all in and win, I'd rather buy them sell.
Speaker 5 (01:59:51):
That's my philosophy.
Speaker 7 (01:59:53):
Well, I mean, in fairness, a lot of the talk
has gone away from even some of those Astros fans.
Speaker 8 (01:59:58):
That I'm actually referring to the Yank But there has
been the talk. And listen, if you're semi saying you're
not wanting to ship four guys from this roster because
you're just not, I understand opinion.
Speaker 5 (02:00:10):
It doesn't mean it's right.
Speaker 7 (02:00:11):
Well, and it's also too there's zero guarantee that it's
going to pan out. Ask Pirates fans, Ask Marlins fans,
ask a lot of different fan bases out there that
have been sold this for the longest time about oh,
it'll pay off in the long run.
Speaker 8 (02:00:22):
Well, you're still waiting in some cases, and you know what,
I wanted to pay off in the short run. Okay,
on the show, because in twenty thirty half this roster
won't be the same. That's fine, it will not be
the same in three years we've seen this anxiety. It
will not be the same. It'll be there'll be seventy
percent new dudes on this roster. Jesus, the way it goes,
go get a championship. And I think that well last year,
remember we had the question you trade Bregman. They were
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all in on winning a championship when they could have
traded him and got more value for him. And that's
why I love this franchise. They're here to win first
and ask questions later, not the other way around. Wow,
what about twenty thirty twos? Luxury tax said, then it's
seven years away. We'll be okay, We'll find way to
maneuver around it. So I'm as a play Maybe it's
just a player. I never got into a game thinking
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can't wait to lose this one. Can't wait till three
years from now. Held three years from now, half these
guys may not be in the league. I'm being facetious,
but can get my point right crazy. I want to win,
and I want to win now, and I'll sacrifice everything
win and now to struggle for three years.
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We've got to SEC Media Days coming up next week,
and of course I, me and you will be out
in Atlanta for that All Star game going on too.
But talked about a little bit earlier. You had a
lineup last night that had one through five that looks
pretty similar to what it usually is. Obviously no Christian
Walker with the paternity leave, but you get the number
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six hitter, Cooper Hummel, the number seven hitter, Taylor Trammel,
eight Zach and then nine Kennedy Corona. I mean, I
understand a loss is a loss and it's gonna frustrate people,
But what are we doing here?
Speaker 12 (02:03:07):
Yeah, it's the sugar len Astros. I mean, that's that's
what they That's what they are right now. That's what
they're gonna be this week. I predicted that yesterday, you know,
on with with Matt and or Austin, I was saying,
I think they feel so good coming out of the
last week where you swept the Dodgers, you beat the Cubs,
you beat you know, like, you beat the Phillies, you
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did all these great things. And then you come back
for the home stretch six games to go before the
All Star break, and it's the Guardians and the Rangers.
I think they feel pretty good about kind of catching
their breath this week. And so that's why I wasn't
surprised where they go. You know what, We're gonna give
Jake Myers an extra day. We're gonna give this guy
an extra day. You know what, Let's get Kennedy Corona
in there, get his feet wet. So it's not to
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say that they're throwing in the towel and quitting because
they fought last night. They tied it up and battled back.
But it just kind of that's the vibe I kind
of get with these games this week and.
Speaker 8 (02:03:59):
I and if that is the vibe, if that was real,
I hate it now. I don't hate that the the
because the other guy has been great for this team
this year. I'm not It's not even that I don't
trust those guys to go in and play tremmel and
to hit a home to play good baseball. But I'm
not forget the rapper, the person, the mindset. As I
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told you earlier, I think it would be a major
mistake to take a sigh of relief five games to
go before the other we play them and they count.
What if Okay, let me ask you this. What if
you go one and five and Seattle goes five and one,
how many games they gain on him?
Speaker 5 (02:04:38):
Four? That would be.
Speaker 7 (02:04:42):
Three game lead within three to start with them up
there in Seattle.
Speaker 9 (02:04:46):
Why wouldn't you treat this just like you did going
to Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 8 (02:04:50):
That's what the All Star breaks for Rest. That doesn't
doesn't mean one hundred and forty pitches for a starting pitcher.
But I'm rolling out what I think gives me the
best chance to win with my healthy players every day.
And if that means Tremmel, great, If that means Dubon great,
If that means Jake Myers great, Cam Smith doesn't need
he rest, He's a kid. Play him. I I I
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just am adamantly against taking that deep sigh. And I
don't even know if the Astles are doing this, and
I don't think right, but you can't, you can't get casual.
Speaker 11 (02:05:24):
And maybe you can't last night.
Speaker 12 (02:05:26):
It's okay tonight the regulars are all back in there
and it's okay, let's let's we gotta get serious here.
Speaker 5 (02:05:32):
But I don't know.
Speaker 12 (02:05:33):
It's just kind of the vibe I got with him,
uh with you, Well, have they earned it? I mean,
you know, I'm not saying, but earned what earned a
little bit of a We don't keep that of the
great opponent. No, I get it. I'm just and again
I'm not saying just throwing the towel, but I'm just saying, like,
could Jake, like, if absolutely necessary, could Jake Myers have
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played last night?
Speaker 8 (02:05:55):
Maybe you know, if he's not healthy, don't play him.
If he's healthy, why am I resting him? I got
the All Star break, he's not going the All Star Game.
I know those four bats are a bitch, but come
on now, So so you both are sit on the
opposite side of me that it's okay to breathe a
sigh and say, even if we go two and four,
we're good.
Speaker 12 (02:06:13):
Well, I know this. I got Hunter Brown tonight, I
feel pretty damn good.
Speaker 8 (02:06:16):
Well, you could probably play with four guys behind him.
Okay that I get.
Speaker 12 (02:06:19):
Yeah, Saturday, you love from so you feel pretty good
about that one.
Speaker 11 (02:06:22):
So those are two right now?
Speaker 8 (02:06:23):
Okay, what if all of a sudden they said, what
if all of a sudden they said, you know what,
Hunter's had an All Star.
Speaker 9 (02:06:30):
First half, Let's give him a break, throw him two innings.
Speaker 5 (02:06:34):
Or not pitch him.
Speaker 8 (02:06:35):
I think he'd want to go in there and fight him.
I don't think he's taking them ount tonight thinking we
got some cushion. I think he's going out there to
mow your ass down. Plus those guys that they're playing
that that Seattle. Let's see who do we got after
Cleveland the Ranger?
Speaker 5 (02:06:51):
You got the Range? I don't.
Speaker 8 (02:06:52):
For me, that's your head into the All Star Break
playing that team. I want to bury their ass whoever
it's with. My point is it's not necessarily the bodies,
it's the approach. I don't think you can be casual.
Five games may mean the difference in October or September.
It's just I for this.
Speaker 12 (02:07:11):
I mean, we got guys like Colton Gordon, you know,
young guys that are being taxed more than they've ever
been tax I mean, don't you feel like, I mean,
there's a certain point where you're gonna have to kind
of give some guys a little bit of a break.
Because camp Smith is going to play the most baseball
he's ever played in his career this year, most games.
He's never played this many in college or you know,
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barely played in the minors. So I think that's part
of it too. I think part of it is kind
of we've hit the halfway point. Let's kind of give
her by a little bit of a break.
Speaker 8 (02:07:41):
Catch breath now, two day a day off, no problem, myers.
If he was banged up a little bit needed, I
get it. I'm talking about fully healthy gainst and no,
I actually don't have no, no, offense. I know it's
more games than he's ever played, but I don't have like, man,
what if we wear Cam Smith out if he was six,
if he was thirty nine, different story. He's twenty two
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years old or whatever, twenty one years old, whatever he is.
Speaker 12 (02:08:04):
Well the problem I always had with that argument too,
is like, eventually you're gonna have to write so it's
always like this. You know, it's like a starring quarterback
in the NFL. He's plays most games he's ever played. Okay, well,
when is he if we give him a break? Now,
when is he gonna get to that point where he
could go the full?
Speaker 5 (02:08:18):
Right?
Speaker 11 (02:08:19):
Right?
Speaker 9 (02:08:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:08:19):
How do you build him up to?
Speaker 10 (02:08:20):
Now?
Speaker 8 (02:08:20):
I listen pitchers at eighty nine pitches, ninety pitches starting
to labor a little bit. Get him out, yeah, Or
guy's got a little hammy, get him out, don't play him.
Speaker 9 (02:08:29):
I get that. Like I said, for me, it's not
the bodies.
Speaker 8 (02:08:32):
I just am trying to guard against the mindset that
that the next six games last night, in the next
five are hall past night, our hall pass games. Hey,
it won't really matter. It won't matter if we lose
and they lose, but it will matter if you get
four games gained on you because you're The approach is catchup.
I just don't see Dana Brown and Joe Aspota, depending
on the bodies. I don't think they're going in like, well,
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the All Star Break started yesterday.
Speaker 7 (02:08:56):
Well, I mean, and I get what you're saying though, too,
but I mean to also Gore's point about I want
this team playing their best baseball in August and September.
Speaker 8 (02:09:04):
How come do you are you assured that that casually
rolling in the All Star Break is gonna give them? No,
it doesn't guarantee. And why would I take somebody out
of the lineup that's sizzling. I'm milking it for all
I get. Listen, four days off that they'll get off
Monday Tuesday for those that are playing Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
and get traveling on Thursday to get to their ball.
But wherever they go in baseball on Friday. I mean,
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it's it, and there's neither. There's not a right or
wrong answer for me. The right answer, though, is, if
you're healthy, we schedule one hundred and sixty two of them.
I'm gonna give you the days off when necessary. The
All Star Break gives me. Pitching's a little different. Of course,
I don't want to tax them open. But for me,
if I was a player, I'm your starting right fielder.
How you feel, what do you mean how I feel?
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I'll see you in the lineup for the next five days.
That that's how I feel. And it's just I just
and I know you want to. You got to get
guys rest along the year on the scheduled days off.
And it's not even the guy, it's the approach. I
can if if you've checked out and you're thinking All
Star break, you will play like it. In anything, you
will play like you've checked out. And I assure you
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if you take a casual somewhere somehow, it will it
will it will backfire on you. You may not win
them all, even if you're going all in. My point is,
I think it's a mindset, not necessarily who the bodies.
Speaker 9 (02:10:18):
Are that are out there.
Speaker 5 (02:10:19):
Real quick here over under August first, you're on back? Yes?
Speaker 11 (02:10:22):
Or no?
Speaker 12 (02:10:24):
August first? August first. He still hasn't picked up a
bat yet, right.
Speaker 5 (02:10:29):
Give me the over. I told you, I.
Speaker 12 (02:10:32):
Told I'd said the last week with you guys, I said,
let me know, like when he's when he's in the lineup,
then I'll get excited. But like he's on, he's he's
out of side, out of mind to me right now,
like I'm I'm moving on without your.
Speaker 11 (02:10:45):
Whenever.
Speaker 5 (02:10:45):
That's choice, you have no choice.
Speaker 12 (02:10:48):
I couldn't get it over the semantics of the the
statement that was released last week, where it was like, hey,
Astros have released some encouraging news for your Like, okay,
what's the encouraging news. They're like, well, he had some
he saw a new specialist and he did some injections
in his hand. It's like, oh okay, what's the same
injections he had before? Oh okay, so this had this before. Okay,
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and good news. That fracture it's basically not even a
problem anymore. It's not even giving him pain. Well, was
it fully healed? Well, we can't tell you. But the
pain he's having he is not from the fracture. Okay,
Well that's great. What's the pain from, Well, the pain
is from the inflammation.
Speaker 9 (02:11:25):
What the hell's the inflammation from the fracture.
Speaker 12 (02:11:27):
Well, the inflammation he was having before, because you know,
he would hit and he'd feel good, but then the
next day the inflammation and then pain, and it's like,
so nothing's improved, Like we're in this like circle of
like you keep telling me he's fine, but like, well
we had to shut him down.
Speaker 11 (02:11:42):
Why did you shut him out because of inflammation?
Speaker 5 (02:11:44):
Why does he have an inflammation? I don't know.
Speaker 12 (02:11:45):
It's like it's we're talking in circles here and so
that when I read that, I just like they called
it encouraging, and I'm like, I don't know what's encouraging
about that. All it is was a new doctor came
in and said, yep, it's inflammation. Well how do you
fix inflammation?
Speaker 8 (02:11:58):
And then you know what I could take from that is,
are you telling me the Jordons.
Speaker 9 (02:12:04):
Can't handle pain?
Speaker 8 (02:12:06):
If I'm saying, well, the inflament and you don't normally
if it's inflammation, you don't shut them down.
Speaker 5 (02:12:12):
You take a day.
Speaker 8 (02:12:13):
You know, I said, the next day you come try
it again. Rights, That's how inflammation. The reason I could
speak expert on that is because from surgery after surgery,
lived what's from scar tissue to inflammation?
Speaker 5 (02:12:24):
I get it.
Speaker 8 (02:12:26):
But if you're giving the shot, you're giving a shot
for what to be pain free or to take like
certain medicines that lessen the inflammation. We know what those are,
and ice, ice is one of those two, the great elixir. Right,
and then so you're you're one hundred percent correct. What
is the pecking order of how didn't one begat the other?
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That begat the other that the fracture started? Then work
and it bothers you and then all of a sudden,
well it's inflame because there's a sore area, so it
gets inflamed. Now that it's healing down there, the inflammation
is still there. So you take a little time off. Okay,
now why you're coming back? He went out and hit
batty predd. Well what's wrong? Well, it's inflamed, but you
shut him down because it's the pain or is it inflammation?
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Is it just because it looks bigger? He's got to
cankle down? Is you know when you got to do
big ankles? Like, well, is it blown out? Well, it's
it's bothering him, but the ankle's healed, but it's still inflammation.
Give him a shot before the game would go play
with ass that's my right.
Speaker 12 (02:13:20):
I think it was two months ago Dana said that.
They're like, yeah, I mean he's doing fine.
Speaker 5 (02:13:23):
Like he was.
Speaker 12 (02:13:24):
He was there hitting, he was in the cage, and
today he was hitting and he looked great. But then
it was the next day he came in and said, oh,
I'm having pain. So then okay, so we got to
slow it down a little bit. But it was like,
it's like, have we made any progress since that?
Speaker 5 (02:13:36):
Right?
Speaker 11 (02:13:36):
And other than the fracture is probably healed by now.
Speaker 5 (02:13:38):
Like no doubt.
Speaker 8 (02:13:39):
And you know what sometimes happens to how you get
inflammation is when you're playing when you're still hurt is
mechanics change. Think about a quarterback throwing in a certain
account that when he gets into his normal armslot, it
bothers him. So what's if you're playing through it, what's
the natural reaction? Like, think about when you're sleeping on
one side, you're like, man, on my left psiatica.
Speaker 1 (02:13:58):
You roll over.
Speaker 8 (02:13:59):
It's like, oh this feels great, right, I can sleep.
You stay there, But the sciatic was sore because well,
it's like when you have knee injury. You know what
hurts next because you're favoring it your left hip. Oh
well my left hip, Why well I'm favored Okay. Of
course the inflammation's coming from that there's no structurally wrong
inflammation will house this threshold to pay. I don't know, man,
give me a pill, let me go play, you know,
(02:14:20):
you know, archaic thinking, but I get it. But yeah,
it's just it's it's a treadmill.
Speaker 12 (02:14:26):
He wasn't any good and so like That's the other
part of this too, is let's say we get him
back somewhere mid late August.
Speaker 11 (02:14:33):
What if he's not ain't good?
Speaker 12 (02:14:35):
Like, So that's why I say, like, mentally wise, I'm
moving on from you, and you gotta I gotta build
this team.
Speaker 8 (02:14:40):
We gotta win names and Gordy, you gotta convince your players.
They all want Jordan back, of course, but with the guys,
like I said, I'm coaching and managing and playing the
guys that are here in uniform. Not that we don't
want him back, but you also have to convince your
players they're good enough to win without him. It can't
be the crutch of yeah, man, because and they're playing
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like they can win without him, so they're not obviously
they're not thinking about that. But you can't get locked
into thinking, well, without Jordan, what are we gonna do.
You have to convince them, guys, they're so damn good
that we can win a World Series without him. Whether
it's true or not, that's what you psychologically have to
convince him. You got to convince Tremmel that he can
start in left field and be a regular every day
and kick ass, and that you got goes.
Speaker 11 (02:15:22):
Guys, we don't need you.
Speaker 5 (02:15:24):
Got me.
Speaker 11 (02:15:24):
You're not gonna say fare.
Speaker 8 (02:15:26):
Right now now out loud. He's gonna say, hell, yeah,
we need your done. At home, he's probably talking to
his wife or girlfriend. Have I say, you know what,
I belong here, And that's part.
Speaker 11 (02:15:35):
Of that freaking homel. Guys, get behind me, let's go.
Speaker 8 (02:15:39):
I can argue that Cooper's having a better season than
you're done right now. I'm kidding, but you get by point.
You need him, but you've got to convince yourself that
you can win without it. And right now, to me,
you've got no choice because he's not in uniform.
Speaker 7 (02:15:51):
Well, you get five more games this week, you get
no Astros baseball next week until Friday. It's still a
great time for all of us to be drinking. Crawford back.
Speaker 12 (02:16:00):
Yeah. I was talking about Budd who was at the
game last night, and he said, uh, I think I
know why we lost.
Speaker 11 (02:16:04):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (02:16:04):
I didn't have a Crawford back.
Speaker 11 (02:16:05):
So you went to the game, you didn't have a
Crawford Bock.
Speaker 5 (02:16:07):
What were you thinking.
Speaker 12 (02:16:08):
So if you go into the baseball game this week,
obviously a headful of home games left before the All
Star Break, get to dyke In Park, get you a
Crawford Bach and let's root on the Astros. Let's get
the let's get this series one tonight with Hunter Brown
and whin tomorrow when another series feel pretty good. So
goes perfectly with Astros baseball. Whatever you have in there
at the ballpark, of course, dollar dog Night, whatever it is,
(02:16:29):
get yourself a Crawford from carboch Brewing Berg right here.
Speaker 9 (02:16:32):
In Houston, Texas.
Speaker 7 (02:16:33):
I mean, I think that was the key to Friday's
game eighteen to one, is that Crawford Bok.
Speaker 12 (02:16:38):
I was over at Carbach on was that Thursday and
Net won that one. And there you go, Yeah, there
you go. Good stuff, but appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (02:16:44):
Chris Gordy joins us every single Tuesday and Thursday here
courtesy of car Bock Brewing. A couple of things though,
that we just talked about right there, will carry over
to the other side. So we continue the Astros conversation
on a Tuesday Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:16:57):
We're gonna have to turn this matter over to oh No.
Speaker 2 (02:17:02):
More Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (02:17:07):
And whatever with these guys, because I think it's actually
quite the opposite. I think those guys look at it
right now, is this is not only an audition to
be here and get on the field on a daily basis.
This is an audition to stay because the numbers are
going to play out. Let's just say you do get
yourd On back, you do get you you believe you're
gonna get Jeremy Paania back. I mean any of the
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other guys that are on the il that you're counting
on at some point down the road in the season.
Is that then all right they come back. Somebody's got
to go out. That's what these guys are playing for
right now. You want it back to you want to
make it. These are opportunities for you to shoot your
shot and impact it. So it goes back to one.
Speaker 8 (02:17:48):
What do you think the biggest word in organization is
for a player that doesn't play much but you have
expectations for them, is trusting that they're going to show
up and do their thing right. So for every guy,
like you know Tremmel, who's waiting for opportunities by doing
what he's doing, you get to a point where you say,
if its need be, if somebody gets hurt like it,
can he feel like can you trust him to play two, three,
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four weeks? And these are opportunities for them to prove it.
Yet I'm not sacrificing wins to have a young guy
or somebody or a veteran it's a backup. Prove to
me that he can play for three weeks down the road.
That's all great, and in the perfect world, that's all
getting all of it is encompassed. But for me, my
number one priority every single time, and I know there's
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this too, is to win, not putting your team in
danger injury wise by pitching a guy one hundred and
twenty five pitches. But when it comes to playing, like
I said, I'm gonna keep I'm keeping a close eye
on the approach these next five games. I really am,
because I would take this just as serious as I
did the Dodger a pair.
Speaker 5 (02:18:47):
I would.
Speaker 8 (02:18:48):
I would take it just as serious because as long
as we're keeping score and wins and losses count. Would
you rather have a nine game cushion or a three
game cushion coming out of the All Star Break? Oh? Nine,
of course? And then what can you do when you
have a nine game cushion coming in All Star Break?
Speaker 9 (02:19:02):
What can you do?
Speaker 5 (02:19:03):
You can probably rest guys here or there. Well, how's
that now?
Speaker 8 (02:19:06):
So my philosophy is go post the wins, keep the lead,
and then be out in front and make them chase
where they're in desperation.
Speaker 4 (02:19:15):
You're not.
Speaker 8 (02:19:16):
They can't afford to rest guys on a day when
they would have liked to. The astros can now flip
the script. You go on and you were one and
five going in because maybe you've got a little casual mindset.
I'm not saying they will, but could now do now
do the math? Now it's down to two and a
half for three games because the Maritors won on a
six game win streak or five game win streak, Now
how you feeling? And then your rival kicked your ass
(02:19:37):
three games like we did the Dodgers. The Rangers beat
you three in a row. That alone enough is enough
for me to say, oh hell no, four damn right,
where are you saying no, no, even if I'm out
of it, I'm spoiling that those three games for those guys,
I'm they're not waltzing into our a building and kicking
our ass.
Speaker 5 (02:19:53):
And that's way I'm going into an All Star break.
That's not how I think.
Speaker 8 (02:19:56):
So the philosophy for me is, if you're three games,
if you lose five or six, and now you're going
to coming out of the ulcer rates, now the pressure
and even though it's a long season, then you're inside
of seventy games. Dan, hell, we're already there. You're right
around to seventy one games or so left.
Speaker 5 (02:20:13):
So you come out of that.
Speaker 8 (02:20:14):
Now the pressure shifts to YouTube stay out in front.
But now you're dragging ass a little bit because now
the desperation is no longer on them, it's on you
to keep this lead. So what happens now This team's
been great under pressure. Don't misunderstand me, but to expect
that I'd much rather have the Then you now become
the team that man.
Speaker 5 (02:20:32):
I'd like to give the guy a rest, but he's hot.
I need him in the lineup.
Speaker 8 (02:20:37):
And then you're down to one series. It's just like
I like going into the fourth court of the football game.
I like a two and a half touchdown lead, because
then a pick six against us throw it, I still
got ten point lead, a three, you got a three
point lead to your two point lead, five point lead.
One mistake changes the whole course of a game. I
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like the cushion to be able, all though I don't
want to make the mistake to afford me the opportunity
that if I do, how can we respond? I think
going into these next five games, if they did, anybody
that's in contention, not just the Astros, comes into this
thinking all star breaks here, this is a good time
for us to gather, to take to take a deep breath.
It's like the team who gets to the super Bowl
and takes a deep breath because they made it, and
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then they get their ass kicked. Nobody cares that you
finished in second place. Apparently they don't care. In New York,
the Yankees, they want manager fired, and they were in
the World Series last year.
Speaker 5 (02:21:29):
See my point.
Speaker 8 (02:21:30):
I want as much cushion as I can because when
it really does matter at the end, to get rest
going into the postseason, fresh legs, fresh arm. I want
that more than me being worried about are you fresh
over a five day all Star break? That's what the
All Star break is for. We're going to back off.
That's when you get all your rest and be wise
about how you get your rest. It comes down to
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trust when it's all said and done.
Speaker 7 (02:21:53):
And we can continue talking about this too if you
want to jump in someone three two one two five
seven to ninety against someone three two you five seven ninety.
So we continue to roll along here Sean Salisbury Show
Sports SOX seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (02:22:05):
The seven ninety listener line here in the.
Speaker 7 (02:22:06):
Nine o'clock hour is presented by one eight hundred car cash.
Then they use in, uh, what was Timothy Dalton's Live
and Let.
Speaker 5 (02:22:16):
Die Live and Let Live and Let Die? Is that's
a Beatles cut, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (02:22:21):
I mean Beatles, so that maybe he just right, absolutely
great theme song, though, great Bond theme song and great
movie by the way. I mean, people weren't very big
on Timothy Dalton. No, that's why he was one and done.
Yeah he had one run into who's the best Bond?
Conner Connery, right, but there's something Roger Moore was pretty good.
(02:22:42):
But people have a strong affinity for Roger Moore and
what Pierce Brosen. I think Brosnen was actually number two.
I think Brosen's kind of underrated.
Speaker 5 (02:22:50):
Oh.
Speaker 8 (02:22:51):
As an actor, I think he's every whatever he's in.
He could play a lot of different roles, like the
mob Land role he's playing now, which is really good. Yeah,
he can play a mean guy normally. I look at him, say,
he's just he's the criminal, you like, like when he
was in Uh, what's the painting one?
Speaker 5 (02:23:04):
They're coming out with another one.
Speaker 8 (02:23:05):
It's to be the third time or fourth time that
Thomas Crown Affair, I think. Yeah. And the Thomas Crown
Affair is going to be with I just saw yesterday. No, oh,
it's it's Michael Michael Jordan. Oh, Michael b Jordan. Yeah, okay, Michael,
not Michael Jordan. Michael, Yeah, I guess we should. When
I say show George, yeah, I think he's like producing it.
(02:23:27):
But also is he's the star and it so I
think I'm pretty sure that he's the heist guy and
Thomas Crown Affair, and there's obviously the one the the uh,
the female who's in the same role that's there to
you know, to stop him from doing it that played
the role of the lady who never ages, who's the
what's the gal's name? That was opposite of Pierce Browsin
(02:23:48):
in the show Russo she's you look at her. She
was like in fifty something years old and she looked.
I mean she has an age in like thirty years
at least it appeared in the movies. But yeah, it's
supposed to be a new one coming out, So there
you go. But the Bond, it's it's Connory and it's
not close, right, it's Connery, then it's Brass and then
Roger Moore, Roger Moore, and then probably Daniel Craig. Yeah,
(02:24:09):
well I take that back, Daniel Craig, pretty damned. I
keep forgetting it. And why would you want to give
that up? I guess because you're just tired of the
storyline and tired of being bond. But man, that's a
pretty and maybe you get typed like he's bond. He's Bond,
But man, such an iconic series I of movies. I
it would be hard to they're printing money too. Maybe
he's made enough, but he doesn't print it Anymorey, he's
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tired of it and and obviously a new Bond, but
man alive I liked.
Speaker 5 (02:24:35):
I thought Daniel Craig is pretty good, but supposed to
be it, well, everybody not supposed to be. I think
a lot of people Pine wanted to because.
Speaker 8 (02:24:43):
He's British and you know, you get the you get
an African American finally, you know, playing Bond. But I
don't know if contract hold up or what have you.
But I don't even know who is the new Bond.
I can't remember who is it. I don't even remember it.
Speaker 5 (02:24:56):
Yeah, I mean I'm on the sided it down to
a couple that.
Speaker 9 (02:25:00):
Yeah, Daniel Craig's pretty freaking good, but Connery's the king
when it comes to Bond.
Speaker 7 (02:25:04):
I mean, you would think, you know, Tom Hardy is
a possibility you have, but Tom Hardy's too rough around
the edge. I would, but he's not poland and not
in the bad.
Speaker 8 (02:25:13):
But you see, he's well, he's like Jason Statham, who's
like he's got the same role at all of them,
where he's a bruder, he's kind of mumbles his way
through at times. Smart guy obviously, but he's the just
the initial look at Tom Hardy, you don't look at
him as a polished Bond, right.
Speaker 5 (02:25:33):
Tom Holland was one that I was thinking of. Tom Holland,
Spider Man.
Speaker 8 (02:25:37):
There you go, because Tom Hardy, I mean, you know,
Hardy is like he feels like one of the villains
in a Bond movie, that he's assisting a villain because
just that polished of I don't see him going yet shaken.
Speaker 5 (02:25:48):
That stirred Tom Holland. I could see that.
Speaker 9 (02:25:51):
Yes, not Hardy Sewan, James Seawan, you know, I practiced
that I instead of Bond, James Sewan, James Shawn. Yeah,
but it's got to be a guy that like when
he walks, they're just people just just polished in the
suit fits perfect, and you know a.
Speaker 8 (02:26:06):
Little a little uh rangier, like a sinewy. Holland looks
like he wants to beat up on Bond. I forget
the I mean, not Holland, but Hardy. I forget the comedian.
Speaker 7 (02:26:15):
But they used it as a bit where they said, well,
it works for Bond, so it's gonna work for me.
He said he tried it on a lady once of
you know, whatever his name was, you know, James Mark James,
and she goes off, f off, Oh nice.
Speaker 8 (02:26:28):
Yeah, I've viewed Seana, Sean James, Sean Matthews and Matthews.
It wouldn't work as well. It's too well you think
if I tried to to too many, too many syllables. Right,
it's me, it's just Sean James.
Speaker 5 (02:26:42):
It's for Bond. It's just like it's just once Sean.
It's not just not committed to the right Sean James,
I've committed to. I'm I don't know. You want to
be that person who lives that role right, kind of
like you have to. I mean, that's that's why it
worked for Bond. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (02:26:55):
Would a guy like Christian Bale be a good Bonder?
Is he too rough around the edges?
Speaker 5 (02:26:58):
And two?
Speaker 8 (02:26:59):
But he's you could see all he could trim up
and be polished and he's a badass. Don't don't bother him.
Yeah bad idea, that was it for you?
Speaker 5 (02:27:09):
Good for you? Yeah, but he's methodists.
Speaker 8 (02:27:13):
I could see it, and he gets into it, dude,
that's what I would say, the method actor. He'd live
it and maybe start calling himself Bond. But I always
thought that I could picture him. But maybe he's just
a little too too too rough tough guy stuff. I mean,
you want the tough guy, but you want it to
be he can hold a Martini while he kicks you
in your throat or I just feel like Christian Bale
wants to kill you when he does.
Speaker 5 (02:27:33):
He's a good actor.
Speaker 7 (02:27:35):
I don't think DiCaprio would ever go for it, but
I think DiCaprio could play a great Bond villain.
Speaker 5 (02:27:39):
Yeah, oh villain. No, absolutely absolutely could. Where is he?
Speaker 7 (02:27:45):
I mean, I think just waiting for the next Martin
Scorsese movie, probably Mary as he likes to.
Speaker 8 (02:27:49):
Yeah, probably right. He's a fixture for the next seventy years.
Scorsese puts it out de Niro and Leo DiCaprio or
in it.
Speaker 9 (02:27:56):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (02:27:57):
I was gonna say it might it might be time
pass for de Niro, but Scorsesees interviews always cracked me
up to like he just seems like, you know, just
this like always like nervous energy guy that you know.
Speaker 5 (02:28:09):
Oh you know.
Speaker 7 (02:28:09):
In the Beauty of the Irishman, what we really loved
about it was that Robbie wanted to be a part
of it.
Speaker 5 (02:28:14):
DeNiro, you know, he really wanted to be a part
of it.
Speaker 8 (02:28:16):
And he talks fast, He's got his guy's Bobby and
he called DeNiro Bob right his mom.
Speaker 7 (02:28:21):
Of course, and Casino and then also and Good Fellas
as the mom where you know they go to the
house after they just bats. Yeah, yeah, and then she
shows them the painting. Oh look at that guy, that's
his mom and realized, yeah.
Speaker 11 (02:28:33):
Don he look like somebody we know.
Speaker 9 (02:28:36):
Mom?
Speaker 1 (02:28:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:28:37):
And then she was also the mom of the deli
market guy in Casino. Oh yeah, yeah, oh cool, keeping
the family man absolutely absolutely what works works all right?
Speaker 5 (02:28:49):
Uh so gen Z sometimes we look at gen Z
and we just wonder, what do you think? And this
is another example we'll.
Speaker 7 (02:28:56):
Talk about here close things out here On a Tuesday
Sean's Allsbury show Sports SOX seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (02:29:01):
Sort of pro painters Dale.
Speaker 8 (02:29:03):
I'm talking to you, my man who runs a show
as a customer first as I was, and now part
of the family. My house is getting ready for a
new paint job, changing the color on it, and uh,
he doesn't know yet, but he will and sort of
pro will because they're the best, and they're the only
ones I use. I like the DIY, but when it
comes to paint, I can't do it as good as them. Now,
maybe you can, but I can free your time up.
Speaker 5 (02:29:25):
Let's do it.
Speaker 8 (02:29:25):
It's the right price, local, trusted, they're timely, they'll paint
your home to the way you want it painted like
they would their own home. Plus they'll help you pick
out the paint. It's one that well I know how
to pick out paint. Yeah, but are you sure that
that that gloss or that Matt pops whether it's interior
or xterieror your home or your business expensive town, a
home in a business, So why not protect it with
the quality painting A sort of pro painters right interior
(02:29:48):
x tier Man's that's your life, your investment.
Speaker 5 (02:29:51):
Don't you want to make it look great?
Speaker 8 (02:29:53):
And when you're sitting there, you're like, man, even in
your room, that feel good feeling about a spring or
summer paint job. Well, I'm doing it to my home,
and I'll only use sorta pro painters certapro dot com
for your free estimate.
Speaker 5 (02:30:04):
It's sort of with the c you know who they are.
Speaker 8 (02:30:06):
And I said here and talked about it for years now,
but I won't change because while I like to diy
and I like to paint, I also know coming out
of it, i'd like more time to do other things,
So why not let the experts take care of it?
And I believe in cert of Pro Painters, and as
a customer, I couldn't be more proud to be a
part of it.
Speaker 4 (02:30:22):
But I know this.
Speaker 5 (02:30:23):
When they walked out of my house, I knew I'd
made the right decision. And you will too.
Speaker 8 (02:30:27):
It's sort of with the C sort of pro painters,
sort of with a C sort ofpro dot com for
your free estimate sort of pro painters. That's painting Happy.
Speaker 3 (02:30:36):
We want to wait.
Speaker 1 (02:30:38):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (02:30:41):
We've usually done this before.
Speaker 7 (02:30:43):
Not try not to do the whole oh gen Z
gen Z thing, because I mean I'm not that far
removed from them. And plus two, I mean TRIPLEL is
part of gen Z. So if I'm going after gen Z,
then ergo, I'm going after Triple E. I don't want
to do that. I don't think any of us want
to do that.
Speaker 5 (02:30:56):
But some of us do. Oh I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Go ahead.
Speaker 7 (02:31:01):
I mean, look, there is such a thing about being
you know, broken down to be built back up at times.
Speaker 5 (02:31:06):
I mean, look, you know, nobody's immune from it, and
you know.
Speaker 8 (02:31:09):
Sometimes Triple he doesn't qualify if something needs to be
broken down, I don't think so. Yeah, good because I
don't think he falls into this category. Well, it's never
an umbrella statement on everybody that's true. Anything that's sure.
You could find somebody in all categories that suck.
Speaker 5 (02:31:22):
Fine tip paint brushes.
Speaker 7 (02:31:23):
That's what we paint with here, not wide swaths here, right,
that's not what we do here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
So in most developed nations, it is standard. This is
from politics out here on Twitter at politics out here.
In most developed nations, it's standard to get a month
of paid time off. In America, we have to take
many retirements once every eighteen months. It's crazy how we
(02:31:47):
are so polarized that an entire voting block of working
class people will fight and say you want to give
them more PTO, And some people right there might say
many retirements. Apparently there are some gen Z career professionals
out there who call it a quote micro retirement that
(02:32:07):
involves taking one or two weeks break from work every twelve.
Speaker 9 (02:32:11):
To eighteen years. Well, isn't that a vacation?
Speaker 5 (02:32:16):
I mean usually yeah, what are the gen Z?
Speaker 10 (02:32:20):
What?
Speaker 9 (02:32:21):
What am I learning from that?
Speaker 11 (02:32:22):
Just new names for the same stuff.
Speaker 8 (02:32:25):
Here's what I say. You said, take a two week
break one every hell how often.
Speaker 7 (02:32:29):
Twelve twelve to eighteen months? In this case you said
twelve to eighteen years. Yeah, eighteen months, okay, twelve to
eighteen years. I was going to say, well, then you're
just an idiot for not taking vacation. Want twelve day
So basically they want to take two weeks off from
work every twelve to eighteen months. Yeah, So basically you're
telling me that you're doing what the rest of the
(02:32:51):
world does, two weeks vacation every year. Well, I mean,
I think in this case they want the vacation and
they want two weeks off because they deserve it. It's
just a many get away over you mean they want
over to basically want four weeks vacation if they only
get two, or like in Europe, you know they call
it holiday in their case too. It's he's mentioning that
(02:33:11):
most working class, civilized society is this out for a
month off?
Speaker 5 (02:33:17):
Oh okay?
Speaker 8 (02:33:17):
Is this the same as a working in fast food
where they get your order wrong seventy five percent of
the time, but they want a twenty five dollars an
hour pay race that one. I mean maybe, oh okay,
well sorry, it's part of the working class. So yeah,
we all are okay, and I get it now. I
always want more for everybody. What are you gonna do?
Hold out because I'm not paying you seventy five dollars
an hour because you put lettuce on a burger I
(02:33:40):
didn't want. Okay, I'm being facetious obviously, but you get
my point.
Speaker 11 (02:33:44):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (02:33:45):
Well, now, now I'm the boss and you're a gen
Z and you come in and ask me, hey, I'm
going to take two weeks off over and above the
vacation just because I deserve every twelve months and many
retirement say cool, Well, when you take that two weeks off,
make sure you clock out and turn in your playbook
because that I'm assuming that you're done with work.
Speaker 5 (02:34:02):
No, I mean for paternity c Yeah, you need it
for paternity leave. You're not feeling well all that.
Speaker 8 (02:34:07):
But as a gen Z or you don't get to
dictate to me or. I don't care if you're gen
X gen Z bay, I don't care where you fit in.
If it says you get to and if you need
I'm a reasonable boss. If I was a boss if
oh man, you need extra day or two, but to
say this is time, I'm not showing up, that's cool.
Speaker 5 (02:34:25):
Don't show up, don't get paid. It's pretty simple concept.
Speaker 8 (02:34:28):
So take take six months off if you want, but
you'll be coming back working for somebody else. So to yeah,
we would all like two months three months off. Hence
why you work hard. So when you decide you want
to retire at forty five, how about it. But as
long as you're employed by us and you get two
weeks vacation, those other two weeks aren't here to appease
you and make sure that you say that we're bad
people because we're not giving you two weeks off of
(02:34:50):
paid free time. Sorry, it doesn't work gen Z or
any other any other group of people. Here's an idea
of become your own boss. Yeah, and I don't feel sorry,
Well i'm tired. You're working me too hard. I worked
eight hours yesterday.
Speaker 5 (02:35:03):
Get line. Oh well, we never get tired. A run.
Speaker 8 (02:35:06):
Well, I'm not saying it's listen to what we do.
It's called work. But come on, man, we're talking sports.
I know it's not as hard, but I'm also if
i'm you know, holding a street sign that says go
and stop you and you're piss because you're only making
eighty bucks an hour.
Speaker 9 (02:35:21):
I love you, stop okay, and you're not getting an
extra two weeks unless we all do. How's that we post?
That's right?
Speaker 5 (02:35:29):
What we post?
Speaker 8 (02:35:30):
I mean half of this is tu half of this
is tongue in cheek. But I don't think that gen
z gets to dictate to the boss how often they
get off. And if they do, they'll probably be working
seventeen different jobs in the course of their career. Longevity
may not be part of their gig. And if you
decide you take it two weeks off, how about those
ones that just don't show up to work without telling anybody. Yeah,
(02:35:53):
oh so they just didn't show up and then you
let them back the next day. No, you might just
want to stay home because I'll do your job before
you date and I'll find somebody else.
Speaker 7 (02:36:01):
Plenty of stories on we are all replaceable, Make no mistake.
Sometimes you find out the hard way. Here Shawn Salisbury, Triple,
Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews, Matt Thomas Show with Ross coming
up right here ten to two on Your Home of
the Astros and the Rockets, Sports Talk seven ninety We
will talk to you in twenty hours
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