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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury Old, Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc Troup, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Dan matthewscuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
Here's the one too her strike three on the outside corner,
right at the top of the zone. Diner ds caught looking.
That'll do it for the Astros. No runs, two hits,
two men left. We'll go to the fourth inning. Here's
the two to two to Tremail, and that is strike three.
Fastball on the outside corner. Tremail down on strikes. He
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wasn't happy with the call, and that'll do it for
the Astros. Seven strike ass. Now for Kintillo, here's the one.
Two's Hummel ready's himself. Here's the pitch, got it, strike three,
the fastball at ninety nine miles per hour, and Humble
goes down on rights. The Astro Strano pair after a
couple of walks, we'll go to the eighth.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Inny ready for a three to two pitch from Junas.
Here it comes and that is strike three. Call a
fastball on the outside quarter, locked up short and the
site is retired. So we go to extra innings. After
nine Astros six Guardian six won one, and Martinez lifts
it to left and pretty deep. It sends back humble
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against the out of town scoreboard and it is gone.
A Grand Slam for on Hell Martinez and of the
first row of the Lantrys proffered boxes, and Cleveland has
a ten to six lead, and folks at Dyke and
Parker heading for the exits.
Speaker 7 (01:42):
Well, they didn't miss much when it was all said
and done, because that's where the game finished up last night.
And with that we say away we go in good
morning here on the Sean Salisbury show that on Hell
Martinez go ahead, Grand Slam happening in the tenth you
and Robert Ford just tell you right there, one one, Sean,
not one of thirty, one of one, that that ballpark
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goes out, or that ball goes out last night in
the ball not even.
Speaker 8 (02:07):
Out of Fenway with them, it drops down over the monster,
the only one in a right field maybe Yankee Stadium
and fenwaf is by the pesky polo than that, but
just enough, you know what I'm saying. Two weeks from now,
and I say, man, you barely got that what it was.
It's a Grand Slam home run. And then and and
nobody's put an asterisk by it, right, And I guess
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I got to stand up and never throw something out there.
It was not manifestation, but it was like, Okay, it's
gonna happen. How you're going to react, because yesterday you
were talking about that some people like when Oakert or somebody,
or Gusto or somebody has one of those days, just
a bad pitch after all they've done, and we're like,
oh my gosh, what's he doing? And you know, beat
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him down after what this bullpen's done. And I said yesterday, well,
at some point it's going to happen to Josh Hater,
he's been perfect. This is also I mean, he's gonna
to blow a save or have an opportunity to wait,
it's it's gonna happen. I just didn't know what was
gonna happen last night. And the question that will be asked,
would you run him out there again? I mean would
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you would you? Would you have given him the extra
what two thirds is what basically end up happening two
thirds of an inning and then you know you uh
so bucking up an inning and two thirds and would
you have brought him out? But here's your all star closer,
you count on it. That's not an optics or that's
not an analytics move. That's just a joe a spot
of field move.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
I believe I would think it's it's not liking the
results right, like I can deal. You don't have to
give me an explanation, like I get why you have
Josh haderback out there.
Speaker 8 (03:40):
I agree that's it, but somebody's gonna ask, and there's
people out there that gonna question it, and you and
I both know it. But that's not one of those
because unless you look at it and so well, haters
dominated the next three hitters in the order in the
tent right, put a go on second that he's that
the analytics tell you that these three guys in order,
or the leadoff hitter doesn't hit him well, right, or
it's just sometimes these guys go with the feel over
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the best closer in baseball this year. And I got
a pitch, barely hit it out Grand Slam, and you know,
being down what three is getting up with in a
fourth Indy and six to one and battling back. I
love the resilience, which has been who they are, but
they got to one. They couldn't. Now I've told you, Dan,
I'm not saying that they are cognizant of casual, but
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I told you how much I do not like Casual.
If they in your mind, please don't check out before
the All Star break.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Don't do it.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
You got for your fortunate the Yankee said, I think
three home runs last night and beat the Mariners. So
it's a good thing, but another opportunity to extend the lead.
So for me in the division, I get it. But
that's why I was adamant yesterday and still am about.
Put your pedal to treat this as if now you're
down two to one in a seven game series and
you got what four games to go?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
One more against Cleveland? What three? Is it? Three? Is it?
Four gigs?
Speaker 9 (04:57):
Right?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
They're off Thursday?
Speaker 8 (04:58):
Correct, Yeah, they'd they play Friday Saturday, So they got
four games total before they break for the All Star Break.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Treat it like you got to win.
Speaker 8 (05:09):
All four of them, or at least you know you
do know do of of the five with the four
left that would it was six games here, So treat
it as if you have to sweep the series to
win a seven game er, even though it's only six games.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You get my point. I'm talking about the mindset, right.
Speaker 8 (05:24):
So I just don't get casual, because what happens if
the if the Mariners do go on a win four straight,
you know, and they were playing good teams, but hell,
the Ases went on the road and took care of
five or six of Colorado two or three. Yeah, but
then they swept the Dodger, so it's k they're capable.
My point is, I don't think they've checked out. You
saw the lineup was pretty adept yesterday, and Cam Smith
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continues to hit, and and so does Al two V
keep that rolling, but the All Star breaks for rest.
I just hope that mentally there's not the and Hunter
Brown wasn't as sharp as normal yesterday, so you have
to prepare for See, we can't keep counting on Hunter
Browns can go out there and sh you down and
give up one run on three hits and give you
seven or six or seven innings and you're gonna score
three and still win. And I know their mindset is
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right because they've done it enough times to prove it.
But there is this feeling and I the human natures.
I said, yes, it does kick into all of us
and you've got to guard I've been with coaches a
million times say don't have the golf clubs in your
trunk just yet for the time off or the bye week.
We got a game to play going into the bye week,
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which may end up being the difference in the season.
So and then coming out of it, you've got to
refocus your mind. When they come out of the All
Star break Western ready to go. You can't take a
week to get going. This is and I know it well, Sean, Yeah,
you gets a long stay. No, we're no longer in
a long season. Now you're in the seventy game range now,
so I just listen, you're gonna get beat. But in truth,
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this team was on the Cleveland Guardians were in a
ten game losing streak, and they've now waltzed into your
building and given you what you gave the dogs. How
many runs they score in the first.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
Game series talking about the Astros, No, Cleveland, oh seven?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And how many they score last night? Ten?
Speaker 8 (07:07):
That's seventeen runs in two games. And we made a
huge deal over twenty nine to six with the Astros.
So if they get a if they throw a seven
spot on you today, that's in the twenties and three games,
which is unlike this pitching staff. So when you consistently
rely on the pitchers, happen to dominate, and then you
don't get a dominating performance from your ace one of
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the two of them.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Here's what happens. And so here you are listen.
Speaker 8 (07:33):
It's two games, I get it, but two losses at
home against the team that had won in a hand
in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
They were down ten straight.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
So I just for me, I know that they're not
checked out, but they're just don't get casual. You gotta
stay alert, and you got to treat these four games
like that. The end of the season, they're gonna matter
short of having from bra Valdez throw one hundred.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And twenty pitches, like I said yesterday, But if they
are healthy, run your best people out there.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
You have to all star breaks for rest, not now,
and it can't be you can't check out and get
mental rest just yet.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
You just can't.
Speaker 8 (08:10):
But it tells me a little bit when when they're
what a fourth inning at six to one and then
they fight their way back, that they aren't checked out.
But it just can't get casual and get down early
and I'm sure it's kind of deflating when you're ace
a guy who's an All Star. You're down six to
one and he's not and he's not playing his best
but grinding to get to six innings and do all that.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It's like, okay, now, how are we going to respond?
Speaker 8 (08:33):
Well, Cleveland responded a little better and got the clutch
hit when it mattered in the tenth inning, albeit a
cheapy home run, but it's still it's not too cheap
if it lands in the seats. So just I'm guarding
against it, and I would say, you can't. You've got
to go out this with intensity, and if I don't
believe in clubhouse meetings, but I would address him saying
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that let's make sure we finish these four up like
this is the last, Like these four games are going
to make a difference in that we're chasing a team
down a game and we got to win four straight
to win the division. Well, Sean, that's premoum. No, it
actually isn't, because we've seen it come down to that,
and you never know when that one or two games
in game seventy four, game ninety eight is really going
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to matter.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You're gonna lose a bunch of but man, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (09:23):
You have to know that the Rangers and the Seattle
managers are going to go through streaks where they're dominant
as well, and so I just I know I'm making
a big deal over this the last yesterday and today,
but I really am because I've seen it. I've been
on teams. I'm just telling you Baseball and football little different.
But the part of going into a bye week and
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coming out that I've been on teams that the week
of practice it was Flop Richard week, where it's like,
hey man, we're just going to kind of go out
there and go through it and hope that on Sunday.
If you're hoping on Sunday, you're prepared your bad idea.
If you're know it on Sundays, you're prepared. Before you
go into a bye week. You'll come out. You may
not win, but at least you'll know that, Okay, we
did our thing. Now we got to come out of it.
We've got to make sure we're ready when we come
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out of the bye week. You should enjoy your time
off and the rest of it. But guess what, there
are still four games are you getting paid and you
have to approach it in intensity. I don't care if
you're down three to one, you don't start moving bodies out.
You get them in there and they go play and
do it. That's just my opinion, and I think my
opinion may be indifferent for others. But I don't treat
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this as it's not country club week nd take the
country club time off to go play golf if you
want to next Monday, if you're not an All Star,
or Sunday, or be with your family, not now. And
this team battled back, but Cleveland was a little more
clutch in the last two games. And now a dominant
pitching staff has given up almost twenty runs in two
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games at home. So you do not you can't let
this because you also don't want doubt to creep in
the second half, because these last two games, you know
what it looks like. It looks like a team that
is injured and that they're pitching staff's average and we
know neither one injured. Yes, but we know there's nothing
average about this team right now. But I love the
resilience to fight back. And yes, it's just two games,
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but yes it's just four games. Yes, it's just six games.
I'm just for me. You have to stay alert and
on guard and defend these next four games as if
these four games are going to make a difference in
whether you win or lose the division. I don't think
you can treat it like, oh, we've got we've got
room to spare. At the end of the year, we'll
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have that conversation.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Not now.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Two for twenty one last night with runners in scoring position,
and you leave more than eleven, at least at the
time it was twelve. You leave twelve runners on base
last night, and those two for twenty one, both of
them were jose L Twov. Everybody else was over for nineteen.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
So with that in mind, and I mean this with
all affection and caring, this team, with all that's gone on,
is not good enough to go for two for twenty
one with did you say two for twenty one? Two
for twenty one with runners in scoring position? Very few
teams healthy are and we we they probably overachieved in
certain cases, but that's overachieving is a good thing. That's
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just called preparation and being into it. But you don't
want to get to the point that while you're overachieving,
that you start to believe that you were an overachieve
and all of a sudden, it's when a streak of
you know, when you're not doing the things you need
to do hits. Then all of a sudden you start
to buy and oh, is this who they were supposed
to be coming out of spring? It's catching up to them.
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You don't want that to you. You don't want that
to linger. And it doesn't matter what everybody else is,
but you don't want it to be part of what
you're feeling, that it's going to catch up to you,
that oh, this is who they are, this is the teammates,
all these injuries, the pitching staff can't sustain this.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Today's game to me is what's the night game tonight? Right?
What's day Wednesday? Wednesday? Right?
Speaker 8 (12:49):
Thenight's game is I think hugely important I do in
the big scheme of things I do just to start
feeling good. And then you've got a rival that you
should treat it like you can't stand them. You should
So it's a loss. Like I said, always say you're
gonna lose sixty to seventy of them every year. But
I'd sure not like to get into this where all
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this hot, great baseball. Then he all of a sudden
got to come out of the All Star break wonder
and I just don't want desperation. Two games isn't desperation
going one in five they'll be there will be people
will start through that indecision and indecisive stuff starts to
creep in. It's only human nature for competitive athletes got
to stay away from that. They have got to stay
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on guard these next four games.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Well, you also don't want to give anybody hope. I mean,
the Rangers win last night, they're now ten games back
of you. I mean you mentioned it. The Mariners lose,
that's good, but you know that Ranger series you as
you even mentioned right there, you fool around and find out, well,
then all of a sudden it's under ten and it
heads into the second half, and all of a sudden,
you've given them life.
Speaker 8 (13:51):
So you see, Well, I don't recommend it. What happens
if they sweep you. If you did the Dodgers and
they win. Let's say the Rangers win today and you
get swept by clear you get swept into two series,
which is hard to do. But let's just say they did.
For the hell of it. Now it's at six games. Yeah,
now it's in six games, and you're going to see
him again and all. And then you come out of it,
You get all that, and it starts to fester. And
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then you go one and two in your first series
coming out of it, and they go three and oh
and they're on a roll. And now it's at four games.
Now who's desperate?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Right? And that's in what a two week period? You
saw it last year in reverse?
Speaker 9 (14:26):
So you.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Twelve and twenty four? Done? Win the division?
Speaker 9 (14:33):
Yea?
Speaker 8 (14:33):
So well's I know it's two games, but I do
make a big deal on all games. If they're on
the schedule and you got to play them, did they matter?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Don't get the job done. That's exactly right. Just get
the job done.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
This looked like a team that we these last two
games have looked like a team that we're not you seeing.
What we are you seeing is the resilience of them
battling back. But you cannot let this fester. I'm just
telling you. You go one and five in this series,
I'm going to tell you what it's going to start
to change the thought process, not only the Nashville but
how this division's gonna look.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
Yeah, all that work you just did, you're pretty much
gonna be giving it back.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
And why because if you don't want to get a
little too Oh, it's the All Star break.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
We're good. I'll take this time.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
We'll come back out of this smoking your hunts about
You can't rely on that stuff. You got to rely
on it. Like if you don't win these games, you're
missing out. Let it rip man. I'm a big believer
in it.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Big.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Yeah, Well, you're gonna get back guy again the night.
Brandon Walter are gonna be on the mound and we
will talk about that, talk about the hitting struggles.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And Sean Casey.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
MLB Network, he's gonna join us here in about forty
five minutes, and Dana Brown for his weekly visit here
in nine point thirty every single Wednesday on the Sean
Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
But coming up. Don't mean to put it on one guy,
but it kind of is about him. We'll talk about
it right here.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
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Speaker 2 (15:50):
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Speaker 4 (15:53):
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Speaker 7 (16:00):
Gotta believe one of the things you're going to talk
about with Dana Brown is a constant. Is a constant
name mentioned here for not great reasons. Jiner Dia is
where I mean Sean, as I said last night, at
least a couple of different times, one of them right now.
It continues to show you, I don't care about your injuries,
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any of those things. You cannot bat him higher than fifth.
I mean, it just continues to get into the next
weee where it's he continuously takes one step forward, two
steps back. This season and last night another example of
that front foot swings, still chasing that outside slider, strikes
out twice, goes zero for four.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
And I mean, we're talking about guys that you need
to be able to step up right now. He's one
of those guys that you need to be able to
step up right now.
Speaker 8 (16:47):
So what are you saying that tells you that he's
close or far off?
Speaker 7 (16:52):
I thought he was close from what we saw in
LA with those couple of home runs. I was like, Okay,
he's starting to see it a little bit. But no,
he's still out in front and he's still doing the
yolo swings of I don't really care of this is
I'm swinging at it Tabby baias like almost.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
Yeah, who's having a pretty good year this year too,
is a good friend but finally earning the money.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, yeah, it's about time, right.
Speaker 9 (17:17):
I just.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Sometimes and I'm sitting here trying to figure out is
just is it as simple as a move down in
the order. Is it a he gathered success? You know,
he started to work success and be one of those
guys you say, it's the middle of the lineup, ba
you know, a guy that we're plugging in the middle
of the lineup.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Has it?
Speaker 8 (17:36):
Is it just as simple as he's gotten too loose
with his swing or focused or is defense coming into
play because he needed all the you know people running
on that.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
I'm just trying to figure out his one effect in
the other is his ability to want to hit for power,
which he has getting him to chase you know who
We've seen this. You know it looks like at times
when he's going through it, when he've been going through
a bat and he's got it adjusted this year, but
he's hurt now. Is the way Peanya you know, at
times early in his career and for years one and two,
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at times chasing balls that were non competitive pitches and
that's what's bothering you now right. Yeah, So what's the answer.
How do you during a season? How do you fix it?
Just just get one at bat? That's good because he
has been he's gotten better and in LA he did.
Could it just be as simple as it's just been
two games where he's you know where you know, and
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last night where he struggled to do his thing and
then come back and get three.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
If he gets three hits today, are you satisfied it
at least would be a positive step forward? As I mentioned,
one step forward, two steps back?
Speaker 8 (18:41):
Is it hyperbolic for you to be I'm just going
with yesterday and I love I know where you're going
with this, and I get it. But yesterday you talk about,
you know, the bullpen having one bad go and everybody,
you know, we got to get rid of what's going on?
Why are we pitching this guy? But is the reason
you not treating yanor the same way as you said?
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Then it's one game?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Is it? Because this has been a consistent problem in
twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Why is that one game?
Speaker 9 (19:07):
You do?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Said?
Speaker 8 (19:08):
It's just the picture was better than him last night.
That's how you'd have felt. But because you've seen flashes
of this, the up and down dal Joneser this year,
gives you cause for concern that it's to it creeps
back into what the hell's he doing?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Is that? Is that kind of where you're at.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Well, it's only just that, it's also you're a def
you're your defensively deficient catcher. Yeah, he hear that he's
not in camp bat to forty two and be in
the middle.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
Of my order right lineup, yes, middle of the order, no, right, yeah,
and hope that he sees different pitches in it. You know,
oh he's down in there. But his reputation now is
going to be that the people know that this is
a young budding star.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Right. But you're exactly right.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
If you're gonna be a great defensive catcher, well think
about who we compare him to on this team in
a different way, although he's a better hitter. Is the
way it's going now is with Jake Myers. Jake Myers
Steve Sparks are old glove centerfielder type. If he it's
two twenty or two hundred, I don't care, right, And
I mean, because you know at least what you're getting
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on the other that's exactly right with this. If you're
a gold glove catcher and playing like Pud Rodriguez, we're
going to cut you a little more slack, is what
you're saying. Absolutely, if not, if I'm putting you in
the middle lineup in your defensively, you're not, wouldn't say
you're a plus, You're you're you're an average defensive catcher. Right,
He just is, and he's still learning, and there's potentially yes,
I'm trying to be kind and then on them talk
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about the overall defensive package, right, and then on the
offensive side, potential to be great. But the potential and
production are two different words, right, And if you're hitting
two ninety, I cut you a little slack defensively. If
you're playing gold glove defense and you're hitting two twenty,
we give you a little bit of a hall pass
because you're still doing the thing. In this stage with
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the way the pitching, I'd sure love him to be
a great defensive catcher. But on the other side of it,
with all the you need is bat rolling right you
you you he the responsibility and the ability to respond
to this knowing pain is not in the lineup, do
you're using a bunch of different players. He has to
be the next level of him is to be able
to carry a team on his back for a minute.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Right.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Well, I mean, in at least a couple of different
times last night, it comes back to hurt you. I
mean Ramirez earlier on in the game, the timing of
them too bothered. Right, Yeah, I mean two of the
runs that scored at least one of one more of
the runs that scored there to make it five to one,
Ramirez stole second base and he almost looked back and
I think he even had a smirk on his face
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like that was easy, like that that's whatsoever? Right, I mean,
he went in standing at that point. That shouldn't happen
in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
No, not in the middle of a game where unless
it was fourteen to one, he like, we're up for
to let him still.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And sometimes it's on the pitcher. I get that.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
And they've talked about trying to be able to hold
guys on do all those different things which we saw
on intentional ball last night, which I don't think I've
ever seen. But where I mean, you know, you've got
to give your catcher a chance, and I mean he
wouldn't have had a shot on that.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
But at the same time though too, I mean the
fact that that even creeps into the minds of opposing
dugouts is saying, we can go pretty much whenever we want.
This guy ain't gonna throw us.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
Out shooting fish in a barrel, Bud, you know what
I mean. You have a shot fish in a barrel?
Never have it seems pretty easy, It's pretty easy. There
you go, and I get it. I'm going to tell
you just to just I think he's too good of
a hitter to make this a season long. And I
have seen flashes and I know you have to, but
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I'm with you. It's at times like this and so
we are on the same page, just a different route
to get there, of the understanding the moment and understanding
where you are and also understanding I don't care that
what's he in his third year starting now where he's
been the regular right that there is a responsibility that
comes up with it.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Do you have to deliver?
Speaker 8 (22:52):
We'll see it goes because when this thing rolls along,
two things I know are going to have to happen.
When you run into Dodgers in a World Series, or Philadelphia
or a Yankee team that's healthy and playing well, or
a Cleveland, a Detroit team that can pitch, and they'll
put them.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
All in play too. Scrappy as well and well managed?
Speaker 8 (23:12):
Is the yordas is gonna have to be a matter
of fact as you go through this, how can we
not say when you combine defense and offense what you're
gonna need because you're going to run into teams that
hit better than you and teams that have the ability
to pitch like you. As you get closer Yaner Diaz
can't be a oh back to the hope and no,
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can't be a hope guy. You're gonna have to have
him contribute consistently and go on one of those heaters.
And unfortunately his heaters have not lasted long and the
the in between the struggles have lasted a tad bit longer,
and Walker is going to have to continue his getting bad.
They are those are two of your three guys in
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truth three four five? Who's who is going to be
the original three four five in the order? Jordan Walker
and Diaz? How much production on the offensive side?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Have you got it?
Speaker 9 (24:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (24:08):
We saw Walkers go up. How much production have you
got out of those three guys for a team that's
eighteen games over five hundred?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Is that what it is? Now? How much production you
got from three, four five? Little? None?
Speaker 8 (24:23):
So the question is can't it continue? And my answer
would be, don't count on it. They're gonna have to
pick up the tempo. You're three and four, three four
five hitters can't hit like a normal team's seven, eight
and nine.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
You said it, I mean, I'm a big shelf life
guy and that has a shelf life. And you'll see
as the season carries along, you continue to do that,
like I said, fool around and find out.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Right, and they know the struggle.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
And then there's no guarantee that when Jordan gets back
right off the bat, we don't know who I mean,
the history tells us that he's gonna rake at some point.
You got to play that right soon enough, right, there
is no guarantee that he's going to come out and
be the second half MVP. We may not get him
for the whole second half, and my gut tells me
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you're not. So that the onus and once again falls
on if three is not there and four and five
are struggling and when three was in there he was struggling.
That's a lot of pressure to put on a pitching
staff in your seven eight nine hitters, and then you're
asking out to Van payn you when he's healthy, load
him up and paradus well. At this stage of the game,
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those three four five hitters may not be those names, right.
It may be I'll two va Paratus and somebody else
hitting three four five and with paying your leading off
when he gets back. So there's work to do and
three four five for them to win where they want
to go. I don't care what anybody' said how good
they've been that those that part of the lineup is
going to have to play like a three four five.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Do well seven eight nine last night was five for
fifteen four years, So there's something there.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Does that not validate what we're saying? Right there? You go? Now,
well that's not nothing, as I like to say.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
All right, even though it didn't look great, still a
positive to be taken from last night with this guy.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
We'll talk about it right here.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
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The seven ninety listener line in the six o'clock hour
is brought to you by one eight hundred car cash
for Hunter Brown. He does give you six innings, but
he also gives up six earned runs and walks three
in the effort. But the good news of it was
that he gives up the early run there in the
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first and then there are actually two runs in the
first because the Jose Ramirez to run Homer.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
To get the night started.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
He's pretty good, He's not bad, and the Astros finally
realized soon enough, hey stop pitching to him, like right now,
like this guy's on a heater against us.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And then also two, what's up Brian Rochio? Like who
are you? Who is this guy?
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Like the just deciding I'm gonna go Zach Short against
the Dodgers against you guys.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I call him Almond? Do you get it? I don't
Almond Rocca? You ever had that? You ever had that? Candy?
Oh man? Okay?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Joy?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah? Well allmon Joy mounds has what is it? Almon
Joy has nuts? Mounds? Don't do you do you like
like a nuts? Sometimes you don't say it again, sometimes
you feel like a nuts. Sometimes you don't what what
kind of nut? Almond Joy?
Speaker 9 (28:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
But right a little coconut in there team there. I
feel like it was kind of forced.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
Well it wasn't even just forced, It was kind of
I didn't really want to say it, did you kind
of kind of stumbled my way into it.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, it was it was I knew you were running.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Anytime the word nuts comes up, you got to start
to think about how you can crow bars. You know
you want to be king crowbar in right. Uh so,
now I lost my train of thought. What were we
talking about? Yeah, so that that didn't hit for you either,
because you don't know what Almond Roka is let people.
So he went short on you right in the Dodger series.
(29:02):
But the key is is that if and you're right,
you can't get that guy out, meaning Ramiro, So just
put him on base anyway? Is that what you're saying
the way you go, he's a But if.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You walk him.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
If every team that played Ramirez because he went out
a heater, decided to put him on, guess what, You're
gonna have three hundred walks during the year because a
guy gets on a heater on a regular base.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
But he is going good.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
And I think that I like the match up. Anytime
Hunter Browns facing anybody right now, especially early. It's like
advantage pitcher. But Ramire is pretty good. And how many
hits now is that the Rokio have in the series? Well,
he had three last night. Yeah, I don't know how
many had in game one is my point? Yeah, and
then he had the years all over it. Yeah, he
had the go ahead double in game one. It's a
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batting under two hundred on the season, Like, come on,
he's got bat an under two hundred in the series,
punching Judy and you're trying to go ahead and decide
and punch and Judy. Yeah, and you want to go
ahead and decide that you're you're a major league ballplayer
in this series. One for two on Monday nights. So
four hits in two games, not a roll. And like
you said, Ramirez is too. But what were you say
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you teased? Was it Hunter Brown that you were saying
that's the positive that you saw out of this even
though it was a slow start.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
Well, because I mean I did say that he was
going to have to eat it, and he did, and
I mean he was at least able to give them
a chance. I mean, despite the montage we played to
start off the show where you're down five to one,
you don't score, You're down six to one, you don't score,
and then finally Jose al Tuove decides, you know what, Hey,
that clutch gene thing, I've got it.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I know how to use it.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
The gene you want to put in somebody else in
the I das part of it right now? You'd like
to borrow some of that, I get it, man, I
get it.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
Trade in one of those Victor Karaccini Grand slams for
that foul pop we had last night when you had
a chance to be able to tie the game.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
And Dan Monday, we were discussing astros right about them
and dealing with this I'm talking about Monday morning, about
how you deal with Cleveland. A team has lost ten
in a row, and we discussed this is a team
that always when Tito was there, Francona, this is a
team that just even though they lost ten a row,
they know they they make you work to win. Does
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that make sense? They'll grind you through it. And there's
too many good players for them to lose ten in
a row.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
It really is.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
They're well, they're not. I don't think a World Series
threat by any means overachieved some last year but they've
got some good players and when they're healthy, they can
they can pitch a little bit too. And you know,
when you get to the back end of the bullpen,
they feel about as confident as we do here. Clause
is going to take you and get people out. So
you knew that they were going to scrap around. I
can tell you this. They're not rolling that. They didn't
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go into this thinking we'll be casle before the alstar Bak.
They went in the sense of urgency. We've lost ten
in a row. We don't want it to be thirteen
in a row and then sixteen in a row before
Sunday when we play a second series whoever it is
they're playing after they leave here. So yeah, it's the
clutch hitting and two for twenty one runners in scoring
position probably not going to win ale a whole lot
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of games unless your ace has a dominant performance. And
he had to fight his way through, and kudos to
him for battling to get to six right and get
through it. So it just was one of those days.
But they didn't get the clutch hit and Cleveland did,
and you mintioned Almin Rokio, I mean really good, and
Ramirez is always he gets them started, and this team's
always good, meaning the Astros when they're the ones who
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punch first, and Cleveland punched first last night and put
themselves out in front. And once again we talked about
six to one lead right in the fourth inning. How
many times have we talked about when you have a
six to one lead instead of a two to one lead,
it puts a lot less stress on your pitching staff
and on everybody. They go in six to one of
a relentless effort to get back in and tie it.
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But then the Grand Slam homer that barely creeped out.
So they've battled back with their bats last night. But
when you have a six to one cushion, if you're Cleveland,
you can afford a two run job by the other
team and still have it. So they've come in here
and taken care of their business. And a team that's
lost ten in a row, I personally it's not acceptable
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to get swept in this series, and I think the
Astros probably know that.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
By the way, they're twenty seven and eighteen against teams
under five hundred this year. You were twenty six and
six or twenty seven and sixteen coming into this series.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
And listen, still impressive record. I can tell you what
you don't want to be twenty seven and nineteen. Go
take care of it today. And I'm sure Dana Brown
says their focus and we'll talk to him about it.
But it just and it is long grind of a season.
But the long grind of the season also tests the
metal of do you play well when it's a you know,
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all star break and checkout time so you can get
a get your mind and your body relaxed. But checkout
times not till Sunday. Dan, It's not Thursday. It's not Wednesday,
and it sure as hell wasn't Monday or Tuesday. They've
got to get back into this winning thing. And you
know what, you can still salvage it. You're losing this series,
but we said, just win the series, which is win
four out of six and you'll be good to go.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Well, it's also too it's nice to have a familiar
face back in the building and they were able to
contribute in a meaningful way last night. Talk about them
before we get to Sean Casey top of hour two.
Right here, getting going Western Wednesday, Sewn Salisbury Show, Sports
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Speaker 4 (35:45):
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Speaker 8 (35:53):
Those that are the grinding the hour after hour, God
bless you. And for those families, you know, we try
to get them all the you know, words of encouragement
you can and prayers, but you know, I just hope
that somehow, some way they find understanding, you know what
I mean, and we'll find some miracles here as they
continue to search.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
I've been talking with a good buddy of Money's a
game warden, and pretty much every single game warden has
been called to Kerrville, and his point was, he's like,
you know, we're the first ones usually on the scene,
with the last ones to go, you know, in situations
like this, just because of you know, it's really all
hands on deck at that point. But you know him
and I mean, you know, I heard Michael Barry mentioned this,
(36:35):
and it's so true. I mean with Camp Mystic, I
mean I remember hearing about it all my life, knowing
girls that went there, people from.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Far and wide go to that camp for years, right right, Yeah,
it's uh, I know, man, it's uh, it's sure. Like
I said before, the summertime will always be different for
those families.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Now makes the fourth largest city in the country feel
a lot smaller too, I mean, just because you know,
it's somebody's got a connection somewhere, somebody knows somebody, somebody's
got a cousin, whoever it is.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I mean, it's just it's it's tough all the way around.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
But the Astros are hoping to be able to turn
around from a tough last two game stretch and a
guy who's helped out though in those two games. About
Hector Narris coming back in and picking up right where
he left off, hect Naris. You love yourself some Hector Narris.
Speaker 8 (37:31):
He's been he's he kind of found himself a pretty
damn good following here and and did himself right, didn't he.
I'm a big fan of one of the the party
float guys because he was one of the party float
guys yep in twenty twenty two when the Astros won
the World Series. Him fromber trying to think who else
was on that party float. Maybe it was Javier I
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think was there.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
But the guy's got the big speaker, they got the
beers going, they were feeling good that day, and you know,
it's just one of those things that certain guys just
feel comfortable in certain jerseys. Hector and Ares loves him
putting on an Astros and he sure does. He seemingly
when he does that, he says, all right, I know
how to get people out again.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (38:09):
And he has been here, he's been really productive, and
you're exactly right. You never know what it is. It
sparks somebody, they keep, they go back and they just
have success. And once again, maybe it's simply the culture
in the building is when you come here, we do different.
And the two losses are a bummer, but there are
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silver linings and all of it. And another one is
the way cam Smith continues to play all two vased
bats getting hot. Just need some of his friends to
come along and be as consistent. There you go and
get healthy. It's gonna matter. We all know that.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
No, it's absolutely going to matter.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
And I mean he comes in last night, gives you
a scoreless ending of relief, Steven Okert an ending of
scoreless relief before that, because you know the night before
he got people all, come on, man, you can't give
up a two run double here.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
It's like, do you know how good the guy's been
this year? Like he's le let's not get on the.
Speaker 7 (38:59):
Middle of the Bullpenn guys, because those guys have been
carrying this team all season long.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
There's no question about it.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
So Dan, at some point, everything's going to have to
hit in the second half of the season, and you
hope it does. When I say I'm not just talking
about the bat where the hitting and the pitching come
together to extendedly because you're gonna go through the hot.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Streaks for everybody.
Speaker 8 (39:18):
But that's why, coming out of getting into this All
Star Break, it would be nice if it was in
that six to eight game range lead and then you
can come out and like I said, desperation. When you
do things out of desperation, they usually don't end well.
And you don't want to be the team that's desperate.
You want the rest of the guys chasing it to
be desperate.
Speaker 7 (39:33):
Keep a good thing going, man, I mean, that's just
really what it comes down to. And you know, try
to be able to finish this thing off these final
four games as best you can, because well, you'd like
to not give the Rangers life, you like to not
give the Mariner's life, anybody life. You want to be
able to have a pretty good stranglehold on this thing,
and that's what the Astros are trying to do.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
Before you go to break real quick, I'll whether to
tease it. Do you know what a court side seat's
going for it? Summer League for Cooper Flagg's debut. I've
heard about this twenty five hundred dollars due.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
For a summer.
Speaker 8 (40:04):
League basketball game where you're not gonna what are you
gonna get out of him? Twenty minutes? I wouldn't say
the first PICKO draft. You're not going to give him
thirty eight minutes in a summer league game. A sucker
is born every day twenty five hundred dollars to watch
his debut court side for summer league basketball.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Maybe I'll see Lebron. I just I don't. I don't
for summer league.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
That would be like saying somebody comes and I don't
know who who, Who's the that loves cam Ward and
decides they want to pay five thousand dollars for a
sideline pass at a preseason game and he's going to
play four snaps.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I'm good.
Speaker 8 (40:42):
Yeah it's weird, but listen, I guess you want to
be the one to say, hey man, I was sitting courtside. Yeah, really,
where where we're at in Dallas?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
No?
Speaker 8 (40:50):
No, no, no, no, in Vegas or wherever they're doing it.
I think it's in the I saw one at University Utah,
so I'm assuming most of it's still in Vegas. But
I saw it, you know, a couple days ago, they're
playing a game at u of U right there, but
twenty five hundred osh for courtse I'd seat to watch
Cooper Flagger.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I can watch him on TV for free. Just give
me the money and I'll give you the other half
for free. How about that. I'm in Royo, all.
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Speaker 7 (42:03):
We talk with MLB Networks Sean Casey courtesy of Gorilla
Glue and Sean want to start it off with an
unpleasant question because as a guy who was also hurt
himself in an exhibition, I got to know, how's the
hammy brother?
Speaker 9 (42:20):
It's not doing well. I had you know, I tore
it off the bone. You know, he was crazy to
cut up playing for the Savannah Bonanzo. You know, obviously
it was a fun time. They got a great thing
going there, but you never expected an exhibition and like,
really get hurt. So I end up tearing. I found
out you have three hammies in each legs. So I
tore two of them off my right hamster, two of
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them off the bone, and I had I had. I
just had a hamstring replace a reattachment surgery like twenty
days ago. So I'm grinding a little bit, but get
a little bit better every day. And you know, it's funny.
I've had six surgeries throughout my twelve year big league career.
This is probably the worst one.
Speaker 8 (42:58):
And it's post career Sean to take us through how well.
I don't even remember how the hamstring happened to you.
I knew it was with the bananas, but was what
did you go apo? And were you trying to leg
out a three bagger? Explain the situation that pulled your hammy?
Speaker 9 (43:12):
Brother, That's the story I wish I could tell you
right now that I hit a rock at the gap
and I was so fast I was getting the third
and next thing, you know, a sniper got me, you
know what I mean. But it turns out I got
a four pitch, a four pitch walk on the On
the fourth pitch, it threw it at my feet and
I had to get out of the way, so it
was a pass ball. And in Savannah Banana rules, if
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you walk a guy, they have to throw it down
and every player has to touch it so you can
keep running. So obviously I'm not there to run, you know,
I mean, sorry, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm. I was there
to hit, and I didn't even think about running, which
which you know, I probably should have stretched a little more.
But I take the umpires like, hey, you got it,
you gotta run ball four. So I start running the first,
which is, you know, an interesting term. I was really
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jogging slow walk probably, So I get the first in
the first base coaches like, go to with the crowd.
You know, I just got announced to fifty thousand people
in Cincinnati. Place is going crazy. Everyone's on their feet,
so the adrenaline history for the first time in years,
and the guys like, go too. So I'm like, oh, yeah,
I'm going too. I go to and my hamstring goes no,
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you're not. You're not going too. As a matter of fact,
we're going to blow out for you.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Oh yeah. We has different post career than during, isn't it?
Speaker 9 (44:26):
My man? Oh man? You know it's so funny. I
look at my life and I'm like, I just want
to walk again. I don't I don't need to get
back on the field, and I just want to walk.
You know.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
Right there, you go, different priorities, different life goals as
we move along in life, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Again MLB Networks.
Speaker 7 (44:46):
Sean Casey join us here on the Shawn Salisbury Show,
and we'll also talk with him about trying to repair
broken bats a little bit later on in our conversation.
But Sean, last couple of nights over at Tyking Park
haven't gone well. But I got to believe that you
and most of you all up in Steve Caucus are
pretty impressed with an eighteen game over five hundred Astros team.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 9 (45:09):
I mean really impressed, And I think even for even
for Astro fans, you know, for you guys that look
that are looking at uh, you know, the team when
they got rid of Kyle Tuck or they got rid
of Presley they got rid of Bregman. You know, it's like, man,
what are the Astros doing? Are they rebuilding all?
Speaker 1 (45:25):
You know?
Speaker 9 (45:25):
And then all of a sudden you look at this
year and you know, Framber Valdez is doing is what
he's doing. Hunter Brown has gone to a totally another level.
It's one of the top five pitchers in baseball. You could,
you know, make an argument with that, with how good
he's been the bullpen with Hater and and you know
Bray and all those guys has been so lights out.
And then you know the emergence of Cam Smith of
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what he's done, you know, makes the team out of
spring training and hitting almost three hundred, starting hit for power,
understand the league a little bit. Jeremy Pania all of
a sudden goes this superstar shorts up, you know level,
and you know, guys are just really playing great baseball.
So I know, personally, you know, looking at the landscape
for the Asters this year, I would not have thought
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that right now they would be eighteen games above five
hundred and one of the best games teams in baseball.
But obviously Dana Brown thought differently, and he was right.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (46:17):
Sean Casey joins us say, Sean, I'm going to get
into your mind about the current the players when you
played and now I've said on the show the last
couple of days as you head into the All starwik
I know in my NFL career, heading into a bye
week the week before, when you know you had a
week off, you got to get out of vacation mode.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
It's still business.
Speaker 8 (46:36):
And here with the All Star Game coming, the Astros
just sweep the Dodgers. It would be easy in human
nature to get into with six games to go, is
to kind of get a little casual, not like, is
he just casual? Like all the All Star breaks coming
to get in vacation mode and then you go one
in five and the GAP's closed now to four games.
So for me in your career, is it real? And
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is it hard to guard against that vacation mode when
the All Star breaking rest is right around the corner.
Speaker 9 (47:02):
Seannie, It's a great question because you know you know this,
You know the baseball you play one hundred and sixty
two games, and I think this is where it's a
different animal mentally than in any other sport. Is that
like and you start to see that All Star break,
You're like man, I could go for a couple of
days off. But I think the biggest thing about being
a big leaguer. And I remember Billy Dorrin, who's a
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long time astro back in the day, was my coach
of Cincinnati. He said, hey, listen, Case, go underwater for
six months. He goes, and I'll pull you up and
I'll let you know when the season's over. He's like,
but don't come up for air and stay you're tired,
don't come up for air and say you need a
day off. Don't come up come up for air and
say you're struggling. Just stay down there, stay with your routine,
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stay with your process, stay with your mentality, and when
when a break shows up, I'll let you know. And
I feel like that's the same thing with the All
Star break. It's like, don't even look at the break.
You know, keep your head down until somebody says, hey, man,
the All Star break here breaks here, and then when
you come out of it, you know, back under water.
So that's my thought process. That's what I used to
always think, like, I don't even want to know about it.
Just keep grinding, to keep going. They waited with mentality,
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and you know when when the break shows up, it
shows up.
Speaker 7 (48:12):
Sean, you mentioned Cam Smith and what he's been able
to do so far this season. From what you've seen
of him, what's impressing the most about his game, either
offensively or defensively.
Speaker 9 (48:22):
Well, offensively, I love how he goes the other way.
And I was reading something that was staying I. You know,
my son played in the Cape Cod League a couple
of years ago, and I remember they were playing I think.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
It was Wareham.
Speaker 9 (48:32):
It was Orleans versus Wareham up there in the Cape
and this kid was hit a bomb left center, and
I remember grabbing the program out because something was a
little different. I look and I'm like, man, Cam Smith's
Florida state.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Interesting.
Speaker 9 (48:44):
So I kind of followed him from that day on
and I've been very interested in his career. And I
remember reading an article was saying that once he started
to take his batting practice and go the other way,
his hitting really kind of opened up for him.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
And I'm a big believer in that.
Speaker 9 (48:57):
If you can go the other way with authority, you know,
the game really opens up for you, especially the pole
side on the power opens up for you. And that's
one thing with Cam Smith. When I watched him even
when he got even when he when he broke camp
this year and in the beginning of the season, he
would take those singles the right field, singles the right
field And I really believe as you watched him evolve,
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he's starting to get to the power on the pulse
side too, and it's all opening up because he's a
really good hitter first that mentality of hey, let's be
a good hitter. First, let's make sure that we can
let the ball travel and drive the ball the other way.
Because in the big league, Sean, the biggest thing about
these guys that are on the mound the best in
the world, like the Savages, the guy the one percenters,
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These guys their ball moves so late that last three
to five feet you're seeing cut right and sink until
and all that stuff. And I think to be a
young kid and to be doing so well, you have
to be letting the ball travel at a different level.
And I think Cam Smith's doing that.
Speaker 8 (49:54):
Sean, let me make you commissioner for a day. You
know you've seen the old school part of it. I'm
a guy who has some old school philosophies, but I
like some new school stuff. But I want to make
sure you the commissioner for a day, give me one
thing you're changing and maybe a thing that bothers you
about the current status. Well, I don't care if it's
a player, if it's the rules, whatever, Commissioner, change something
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and tell me what your biggest gripe about baseball.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Is this day and age.
Speaker 9 (50:19):
That's A. That's a that's a that's an interesting question.
I you know, I think the games in a healthy place.
You know. I think there's a lot of good young players.
I like the rules that they you know. I like
the clock. You know, that's one thing I really do like.
You know, I think that's uh, you know, that's that's
definitely changed the game for the better, you know, for
for for everybody. I like, you know, I like what
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they've done with the running. I think that there's more
action there too. Uh you know. I guess I think
about the rules and I think, how can we still,
you know, find a way to continue to you know,
create offense in the game. I guess I look a
little bit at some of the averages or where where
we're at as far as like putting the on play.
You know, I don't know if there's if there's something
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there too. I think I like the the challenge system
that they that they put into place in spring training
with the with the with the robo ms, not robo amps,
but you know, I mean challenge system on a ball strike.
I think I'd be interested to see because I think
a lot of times, you know, you're seeing a lot
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of these a lot of umpires are so quick now
to throw out manager for arguing balls and strikes, and
you know, and there's a little more tension I think
than ever as far as that goes. I think that
would help eliminate some of that stuff if guys could
challenge either way. So you know, that's one of the
things that that that I think would be a good
thing for baseball. And I think if you look at
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the All Star Game this year, you know, you're looking
at a lot of the good young stars that are here,
Elie Dela Cruz and and uh Pete prow Armstrong and
and you know, just a lot of good young faces
that are in the game that are kind of lead
the way. And uh, you know, I just think I
think the games in a really healthy place.
Speaker 8 (52:02):
You've hit well, you've been an All Star, You've watched
guys hit well, do we have too much emphasis on
on launch angle and home run?
Speaker 1 (52:09):
Are you okay with that as well? Would you like
to see more small ball?
Speaker 9 (52:14):
And you know what, I think small balls starting to
come back a little bit as far as you go.
There's more bunting being back because runs at a premium.
And I don't love the exit I'm just you know,
I don't love the exit vlo, especially for kids that
you know when I just talked about Cam Smith. If
you want to get good exit below exit Velo's getting
the ball out front, you know a little bit, but
you don't get the ball. But if you try to
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live out front against good pitching, you're just gonna get
eaten up. You're gonna get taken apart. So it's like
a catch twenty two. So you really got to learn
to let the ball travel so that you can go
the other way so that when you catch a slider.
I think you do your damage on sliders, hanging change
us breaking balls that are up that you catch a
little bit out front with a good bat pass, and
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those are the ones you're clipping, you know, in the
air with the nice launch angle, and those are the
ones that are on you know MLB Network, and you go, oh,
look at these guys hitting homers. Yeah, but the guys
thought process is, let me try to get a ball.
I could drive them back up the middle the other
way and I'm flipping stuff out front. That's what I think.
So the exit velocity stuff, man, it can be dangerous
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for young kids that are trying to just drop and launch,
because that's not what the good hitters are doing.
Speaker 7 (53:22):
Three time All Star MLB Network Analyst and also too,
as I mentioned, Sean, you're helping repair broken bats. Tell
us about what you guys over at Gorilla.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
Glue are doing. It is a gorilla groove fixing your hammy.
That's what we want to know first and foremost.
Speaker 9 (53:38):
I was thinking the same thing. I'm like, man, Girlla
Clue could have put my hammy together before I started
running for the bananas that have been in business. You know.
Oh man, well, you know, it's been a fun project
with Gorilla Glue, you know, we uh it was. It
was so funny because I did this commercial for girla
Glue at Great American Ballpark like a couple of weeks
before I do the hammy with them. But it was
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a really cool thing that what they did was they
took these big league bats that were broken and they
me and they were like, all right, let's see if these,
you know, stand the test of the Grilla Group product
of putting it back together, and see how tough and
durable and strong it is. And Sean, it was unbelievable, dude.
It really like I was hitting with these bats and
I was even like, oh, man, I hope this holds up.
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And it did. I I was hitting rounds with balls
off a pitching machine. Uh. You know that the Grilla
Group Gorilla was feeding into me and and I was
legitimately hitting with these bats that girl group put back together.
So you know, at the end of the day, it
was just it's just pretty incredible. You know. You know
that they're they're the official sponsor of broken bats, and
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it really does work. And and and I would and
I got a chance to see it firsthands. It was
pretty cool.
Speaker 7 (54:47):
Well, you know, as a baseball dad, bats are expensive.
You want to try to be able to keep them
together as much as possible. Hey, Sean, Hey, we appreciate
the time.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Best of luck with the HAMI recovery and the conversation. Yeah,
come join us again. You're always welcome here.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Brother.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
We love having you.
Speaker 9 (55:01):
I appreciate seany. I want to ask you real quick,
what was the exhibition?
Speaker 1 (55:05):
What was your injury?
Speaker 9 (55:06):
What happened well?
Speaker 1 (55:07):
For for me?
Speaker 8 (55:08):
Well, I've been through four knee injuries, a knee replacement,
two shoulders, a broken nose. Mine mine was the first
one I ever had. First time I ever carried a
football ever, because I played baseball and basketball in junior high.
I got the high school first carry ever compound fracture
in my middle finger. I needed Gorilla gu before Gorilla
Goose started. Brother, trust me, and now I'm just holding
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it together.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
You know how I fix that now?
Speaker 1 (55:35):
Shot, You know how I fix that now.
Speaker 8 (55:36):
But when somebody invites you to to, like to play
in a softball game or something, it's like, hmm, extra
beer beforehand, or I let me manage and coach third base.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Right there you go. Well, appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (55:51):
So great, great.
Speaker 8 (55:54):
Shown, great stuff, brother, Good luck man. I appreciate it again.
What a great person. He's always had a great personality.
He could rank man three time All Star, three time
All Star. I could use about two hours talking with
him because he's got a great feel for what's going on,
and he echoed exactly what we've talked about. Dan not
a soul, even professional baseball players that are going on
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television and telling us about it. That this team would
be eighteen games over five hundred. With all that went on,
it felt like he's been sitting in our studio and
watching the same thing, and he has been. But when
it comes out of it, you know when he's speaking
it and about hitting and about baseball and the Astros.
I think a lot of people see it that way.
But also I love the Billy Dorn suggestion standard water
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for six months. Dude, I'll let you know when to
come up and and know when the All Star breaks here.
So that just is that's a way of just staying
in your bubble and taking care of your business. Three
h two career hitter. He knew how to put the
bat on the base and knows how to fix him too,
as we found out.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
Apparently. I wonder if I wonder if the bat companies
like Gorilla Group, because you're a pair where you're gonna
reuse him. This is recycled. We want to keep pumping about.
So you got to pay so nice and get on
top of it.
Speaker 8 (57:07):
But if it works, I can tell you this, don't
get gorilla glue on your index finger and your thumb
because you'll be given. You'll be like W. C. Fields.
You know it's not happening. Well you found that out
in American Pie too. That damn right you did in
the wrong way. That's exactly I'm glu you are.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
What a movie?
Speaker 9 (57:27):
All right?
Speaker 7 (57:28):
I appreciate Sean Casey for stepping in with us, but uh,
golf is the gentleman's game. Can we agree on that?
What about the time that it became you get your
ass kicked on this course? I wonder if maybe that happened.
We'll talk about it right here. It is a Sean
Salisbury Show.
Speaker 9 (57:44):
Who's Who's Sean?
Speaker 1 (57:46):
He's the y sternal judge who sits on high here's
the final say on all disputes.
Speaker 4 (57:52):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?
Speaker 4 (58:03):
The Salsbury's Takeouts Salsbury Takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show special.
Speaker 7 (58:10):
Thanks to MLB Networks Sean Casey for joining us here
on the show. Don't forget to astros GM Dana Brown
gonna join us nine to thirty. Astros lose last night
ten to six and ten indings to the Guardians, and
by the way, to Sean, not one but two inside
the park home runs last night unless I missed the
third or a fourth.
Speaker 8 (58:32):
But you had Lawrence Butler lead off the game for
the A's and we don't ever get leadoff home runs
inside the park. Yeah, we know what it's like to
go out of the park because the guy who plays
second base left field here does it all the time
in Altuve, and then the other one's a least likely catcher,
one of the slowest. Yeah, by one of the metrics,
he is one of the slowest players in the league
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standing up with it inside the park home run for
a walk off. So you open up with a with
a home run in one game, and then you walk
it off with a slow ass catcher running through home
plate without a slide, right, unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (59:07):
So I saw, you know, Jared marsh the center fielder
for the Phillies. He runs down, finally tracks down the ball,
and then whoever was the guy trying to throw the
relay throw home just completely air mailed it and all
the Giants are out the dugout.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
That was it against Philip Oh was Brandon March center field? Yeah, yeah,
it was.
Speaker 7 (59:25):
It was against Philly and whoever through the relay throw
home all the Giants are out the dugout. I want
to know if anybody wore one off the head right there,
they went to the home plate before he got home,
like it was a regular home runners over the fence.
Speaker 8 (59:38):
But there you didn't know who the guy was. It
was supposed touch home plate right. That was impressive. It
took a long time for him to get around the bases,
but it was impressive. Imagine hell, if it would have
been somebody like that has to can flat out run
Cam Smith, he'd have been standing in.
Speaker 1 (59:54):
The dugout by the time all was relayed. Yea. So
it was impressive. Ye not an odd way to open
an end two different games, not even a relay throw
at that point.
Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
All right, So just shared it on Twitter. I'm sure
most of you have seen it now. I'm sure probably
before yesterday. Former NHL player Nick Tarnowsky was a relatively
innocuous person, like I'm sure you could see him. Hey,
that guy played in the NHL. Oh he did my
kind looks like it. But then, you know, you tell
me who he is and who he played for. I've
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been like, yeah, I never heard of him, but I'll
take your word for it. He's a big guy. But
he was also an.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Enforcer, Yeah, very much. But apparently the guy on the
golf course didn't recognize that exactly.
Speaker 7 (01:00:33):
So playing in Alberta, Canada, was Tarnowsky in a group
and apparently the group in front of them drunk, slow play,
all of those different things.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
So they finally catch up to him on a hole.
Speaker 7 (01:00:45):
And I didn't share the video play the audio here
because a lot of f bombs, even though it's very Canadian,
like I love the one guy in the video.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Oh I've got it on record. Oh yeah, Like it
was so Canadian have like you know, enough guys enough, Yeah,
no more.
Speaker 8 (01:01:03):
Yeah, it was constant and the f bombs will prevent it,
but you can probably describe it pretty well. So it
finally gets to a point where the guy thinks, all right, hey,
I'm gonna ball up to this guy, you know, thinking, Hey,
the bigger you are, the harder you fall.
Speaker 7 (01:01:15):
I'll just charge at him. He's not gonna fight me.
It's a golf course. He's probably you know, bark is
worse than his bite. Tronowski said, oh, I see you
on that pancake blocks him into the pond that's right there.
Then Turnowski gets up starts yeah no. That's what it
then leads to is the guy gets out of the
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water like swamp thing comes at him, and then Turnowski says,
I'll turn into a hockey player right here, grabs.
Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
The guy by the golf shirt and I love that
he's breaking off. Mike Breen bangs as he's hitting him
with rights, bang bang, and then then throws him like
fifteen feet. I felt like in the air. And then
you want to come back for more.
Speaker 8 (01:01:57):
Now, I'll tell you what I'll give the loud mouth
all had no cattle guy, which we all know one
of those guys, right, we all know they all had
no cattle guy. They exist well usually they take one
good right right, they're done. Yeah, In life, there's a
lot of no all had no cattle guys. This guy
is one of them. Whatever he was drinking, was speaking
a matter of fact, talking about overloading your mouth with
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your ass and doing it. And then what he throws
he gets back up. But you right then and there,
if you didn't know who Tarnowski was, which most people
didn't until like a day later. The way he was
grabbing him inside like he went on a hockey sweater,
pulling it and then he was size. It wasn't flailing away.
His were calculated. And when that guy tried to get
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up and do it and left it open, grab and
throw and they were in the ten point must system,
the not three knockdown rules in effect finally, but that
guy kept getting up. It's like, dude, I understand it.
It's like the strong jaw, stupid jaw. And next time
you'll learn better, be careful who you pick fights with.
And the you saw the way he fought him, you're like, okay,
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this is he's fighting like he's on skates, where he's
grabbing sweater and sizing up the right that he can
throw and pummel him with.
Speaker 7 (01:03:08):
Howard Letterman did not have it ten to nine Turnowski.
He had it as ten Ohnoski.
Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:03:14):
And the fight doctor Ferdy Pacheko had to go there
and clean a cut too. Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Yeah, we're stitch when you need him.
Speaker 8 (01:03:20):
But they play fast, I mean play reasonably fast, be
smart or wave the people up and then don't talk
and crap to a guy who's not only that, even
if he wasn't a hockey player, was twice his.
Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Size and the other guy was.
Speaker 8 (01:03:30):
You know, he looked like he was put together pretty well,
but obviously the mouth was talk about the mouth being
a little bit more than the punch, and he did.
He didn't land anything, but he took a big punishment.
And I would imagine that golf course in him won't
see each other again, and he'll probably choose a different
group or a timing that he doesn't have to play
in front of a guy that's gonna pummel him for
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talking all that nonsense and commented him first.
Speaker 7 (01:03:54):
Well, the extended cut too that I posted on Twitter
is that they're getting on the guy about being drunk too,
and they're like, look, he can't even tee his ball up.
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
What are we doing?
Speaker 8 (01:04:05):
Yeah, he was sloppy and mouthy and slow play, which
means time for you to take the day off and
go and regroup. And I guarantee he wakes up. Now,
maybe he's not one of those guys that wakes up
and says, man, what an idiot I was. But now
it's viral and every time you walk into a place
and can say you're the guy who got who asked
a hockey player because you were drunk and stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:04:24):
Probably now the well you know, at least the the
Edmonton flasher Kate whatever her name is. I think that's
her name, but anyway, it doesn't matter. It sits behind
the bio.
Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Well, no, she was. She was the one that was
at the playoffs the year before and then you know.
Speaker 7 (01:04:39):
Decided and here he got the one that sits behind
the bench with tremendous upper body strength, right right, got right? Yeah,
But now this guy, probably he steps into a bar
to grabs some moles and they're gonna be like, hey,
you're the guy that got his ass kicked Tarnowski.
Speaker 8 (01:04:52):
But you know what good hockey fights do, or guys
that happen, you know what they end up doing. So
you can go back on the course after it's all over,
you go to I would say I was a mouthy idiot.
Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
I'm sober.
Speaker 8 (01:05:03):
Now, let me buy you a beer. So Number one,
I don't get my ass kicked again. Number Two, the
next time I see out of the golf course, it's
not uncomfortable. Number Three I learned a valuable lesson. I
appreciate the ass whooping, and you know what most former
hockey or current hockey guys will do, put their arm
around you, go in and buy you the beer. The guys,
they whoop your ass and they drink have a beer together.
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Probably the wise move or stay away from the golf
course that Tarnowski plays on a regular basis, or play
faster and be less mouthy. The suplex at the end
was my favorite, where he he's barrel tossed him. I've
never ever been to a golf course thinking, you know what,
even with somebody slow play, I'm gonna get in a
fist fight with somebody.
Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
I mean, of all places, you know what, I think
I'm gonna go fight somebody on the golf that's supposed
to be a place of grinding out a game, having fun,
smoking a cigar, playing golf with your buddies, been having
a good time yet, and you could compete and have fun.
But I never go there thinking, you know what, Today's
not a good day to get in a fist.
Speaker 8 (01:05:58):
Fight on whole seven while I and a guy's asked
for slow playing, drinking too much. Right, Normally it's a
guy in your own group, says, dude, don't run the
cart into the water. But you know, I guess you
never thought you were going to be in a boxing
match on a golf course. But don't mess with a
hockey dude, because they're guys. They're like Cauliflowerer. They do
know how to fight. Oh yeah, and they don't need
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a club to do it. No, I was gonna say,
in this case, the club was the right fist. And
then yeah, he kind of does that step to the
right barrel tossed him. Oh yeah, guy, that was That
was a different weight class of fight. Why do you
have grass steins? Don't ask?
Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
I told you.
Speaker 8 (01:06:34):
I said that guy was awfully ambitious. I was trying
to be awfully ambitious in that fight. That idea, he'll
learn a valuablest to hit the ball, don't get hit.
Speaker 7 (01:06:42):
It's like in the movie Beer League. You should see
the other guy. I imagine bloody knuckles, mostly clean face.
Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Exactly. That was the case Tartowski came out. He put
it this way.
Speaker 8 (01:06:52):
The only thing that would have heard at his grip
on the next shot he takes, because his knuckles were
beat up, no doubt about it.
Speaker 7 (01:06:57):
Now he landed some punches. Yeh, Canadians throwing down on
the golf course. All right, let's get back in the
Diastros conversation. As last night's disappointing. But the final four
games here the All Star break, we will talk about
it here on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
The seven o'clock hour, seven ninety listener line is presented
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by one eight hundred car Cash And I always love
this too, like where you say something in the moment
and then immediately later on people still take it as
you said it at the time where it was finalized.
At the time I said it was two for eighteen
with eleven runners on base, they said two for twenty
one with twelve.
Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
I'm like, go back and check the time of when
I've said it. It was two for eighteen at the time,
the tenth inning didn't matter. The game was over.
Speaker 7 (01:07:45):
When you're down by four runs, even with the runner
on second, you're not going to be able to put
together any type of you know, any type of hard
against a medal clause A.
Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Yeah, so, I mean you've got that.
Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
But again, though, Sean, I mean it's a repeating yourself
all of those different things that can start to wear
and annoy some people. I don't care at this point
because so many times we've looked at the pitching staff
this year and they've been able to Oh man, I
didn't expect this from Steven Okert? Oh Man, what a
job by Caleb Ort? Like how many times this year? Honestly,
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can we say what a job right there by Jiner Diaz,
What a job right there by Victor Carrattini. We've said
it more with him, but you get my point here
is that we're saying it about the pitchers, but then
when it's a hint of it doesn't go their direction,
then it's a oh well, what's wrong with Steven Okert?
Speaker 8 (01:08:37):
Let me ask you this, and I've optics from just
watching this year. Am I making a mistake and thinking
I need to look at the numbers that I feel
like scoring's down, that pitching's getting the best of hitting
this year?
Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 7 (01:08:53):
I'd have to look at the overall numbers? But I mean,
with the pitch clock everything or advantage pitchers?
Speaker 8 (01:08:58):
So are we going to a point point and are
getting to a point and why should pitchclock be advantage pitchers?
Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Though?
Speaker 8 (01:09:05):
That's my point, but most of them have. I mean,
early on it was, oh, the hitters got the Vandy.
Now you know it can only throw over so many times.
It's it's almost like the narrative shifted because when the
pitchers trying to adjust when it first kicked in. My
whole thing is am I and I'm we'll go to
break and I'm going to look it up. But do
I feel like what the Astros are going through is
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similar to most teams in the league where pitching's got
a leg up on hitting. Now, normally that is the
case starting out right, It's like football. What's usually I
had the first month defense, defense, and then offense kicks
into it. So I'm wondering if the overall, and it
may be within a run.
Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (01:09:45):
I just feel like, even though it's maybe not be
starting pitching going to seven innings in most baseball, it
feels to me like pitching and we're getting more quality
pitching than consistent hitting across Major League Baseball. Now, I
may be one hundred percent off, but now I sit
at home with a baseball package with you, even if
it's just in casual watching Cleveland play Pittsburgh and you
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know in a game or Cleveland play Detroit in a
game where it's not your teams, but you're watching because
it's on it's a day game that you want to see. Well,
I maybe I'm gonna check, and I could be wrong,
but I feel like, and I've said it all along,
that the Astros are going to win a championship this year.
It's going to be because they've got good hitting at
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times timely hitting, but pitching stays healthy and pitches like this,
that'll be what you point to. And I'm sure it'll
be the case with others, but there are teams that
you know, when you look at the Dodgers, you're gonna say, yeah,
but with that lineup, man sure helped the attitude of
the pitching staff right now. If you're the pitching staff,
while you believe in your own players, you do have
to look around when you stand on the mount and say,
we're doing it different this year. So I'm just wondering
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about the overall metrics, the numbers this year.
Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
I just feel like.
Speaker 8 (01:10:58):
Pitchers are getting better, that there's a lot of low
scoring games this year. We're less than five runs between
the two teams. Is being scored and I may be
way wrong. I just feel like I'm watching more low
scoring games and high scoring games, and I don't have
one stat in front of me to bear that out
of than what I'm watching here in Houston and seeing
certain teams. I feel like in the most cases, in
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most cases, that pitching is keeping scores down more than
hitting is raising them this year.
Speaker 7 (01:11:28):
That's the reason why Dana Brown says pitching, pitching, pitching,
and we'll talk with him at nine thirty. All right,
So let's get into a little bit of football here,
because it's a hard lesson for some to learn, and
in some cases, well they never learn.
Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
We'll talk about it here.
Speaker 7 (01:11:41):
It is a Sean Salisbury show on a Western Wednesday,
Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
The Sean Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 7 (01:11:51):
We've talked to the Bill Belichick topic quite at nauseum,
and it's been a tandem topic here of not only him.
You mentioned then you got to mention Jordan Hudson. But
gonna go a little bit of a different tact on this.
So Chris Long has the podcasts and Ryan Clark also
another guy that's in the podcasting world, but they both
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met up for a conversation that I didn't see whose
podcast it was on, but they were talking about Bill
Belichick and you know people coming after him now and
it was on the green Light podcast, so it was
on longs. But the two guys talking about it believe
that the media is pouncing on Belichick now out of spite.
Speaker 8 (01:12:36):
And your question is do you believe they're bouncing out? Oh,
I think there's obvious. I think there is a lot
of people. He was a statement question. Yeah, I think
there are plenty of people that are on Bill Belichick
out of spite. There's no doubt it's a chance to
pounce because when he was onto, he was almost unreachable.
Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
He ran in New England and to win in a
twenty year run. Plus.
Speaker 8 (01:13:00):
Oh, I don't think there's any doubt that at times
certain media members are make it personal. There's no doubt
that we've seen it when people vote for people for
the Hall of Fame. Instead of look at all the criteria,
they people will they will make it personal if somewhere
along the line, maybe you wrong them or didn't give
an interview, we're rude to me. Yes, there's no doubt
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that human nature kicks in now can Belichick handle it.
I'm quite sure he can, but I don't think there
is any doubt that. I don't think that's the only reason,
but I do think that there that out of spite
or out of the way you've had to deal with
Bill his whole career, where he's been very very he's
a bruder and guarded and protective of his there's no question,
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and they have an opportunity, and now don't let him struggle.
Don't let this team come out of the shoot and
and play poorly, because if they do, they will pounce
because it's an opportunity. It's like anything when somebody's got
tremendous success and is dominant in what they do, it's
the first sign of a fall off. The people are
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all over it, so that it's another thing guard against it.
He's gonna have to be if that North Carolina team's
not great but just okay, he's gonna have to deal
with a lot of a lot of heat.
Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
And you and I both know it.
Speaker 8 (01:14:15):
But there's no doubt that spite or payback or I
didn't like him then and now it's an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
There is no question about it.
Speaker 8 (01:14:22):
That people will nitpick over a way to get after
Bill Belichick right now, because success breeds jealousy and he's
had a lot of it. And Bill adds to the
ear because he doesn't give you what you want to
hear well, and the hard lesson to learn is what
Belichick is learning right now. To the point you just
brought up, it almost doesn't matter if they win ten, eleven,
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twelve games there in Chapel Hill. Everybody's always going to
care what's happening at the Dean Smith Center.
Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (01:14:49):
So you start losing a little bit, you go eight
and four, seven and five, something like that, and you
continue to be this way with people like.
Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Notice Tiger Woods, when did Tiger Woods start to get
really nice starting to come out of his struggles. It
happens to a lot of people where they like, man,
I gotta be kinder.
Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Even when he.
Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Came out of the struggles, though he was still very
much I hold the cards, And people were like, you
really don't now because we know mostly about you, and
we know exactly what well you become more. So you
become more you're your your god in the world saw
it all.
Speaker 8 (01:15:19):
You didn't get to you didn't get to brute or
be internal because well when the law gets involved and
in the in the videos and you see the pictures
and then the car accident and goes Listen, First off,
it was never our business to tell to tell uh
Tiger Woods how to have a marriage, to be his
marriage counselor he didn't know me an apology for anything
when he went through that part of it. He and
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about a billion others that go through differences in opinion
or cheating or whatever and there, but all the other stuff,
and the fact is that he was always the guy
on the golf course that if he had you on
the back nine or you're in the final group and
the rest of it, you better it's going to be
a long walk for you. And he wasn't kindness on
the golf course. He was grinder on the golf which
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made him great. But you know, Nicholas wasn't into Tiger Woods,
wasn't into small talk on the golf course. But as
you get we've seen it in a lot of people.
They come out and there's just well take a look
at it in a younger way. But bryceon de Shamba arrogant,
hits it long. Not a lot of people the way
he went about it. And the truth is we're seeing
Deshambo's real personality and now he's become a fan favorite.
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When he was the guy you're like, man, he hits
it a long way, but wouldn't it be cool? I
wanted to get beat. But now he's shown his personality
watching videos and did Tiger Woods becoming more personal. He's
laughing more, and he's just he's become a mentor to
a lot of these guys that younger ones that competed
with him. In the case of Bill Belichick, I don't
think Bill's ever gonna beat But we also start thinking
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when Bill did the stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
With Peyton Manning.
Speaker 8 (01:16:46):
We start and we're saying, with Nick Saban, look how
likable Saban's become on television. And I believe that if
Bill Belichick wouldn't have got back into coaching two or
three years of it, you would have seen more. Because
Bill's got a fun personality. He's been a roadie for
bonje Jo. He likes to goes out and he likes
to have a good time. He's dating a twenty some
year old so or thirty whatever she is now, so
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he does. But Bill has always been and this I
can guarantee. You know, Bill has always been that. What's
that building is is he treats it as if it's
his form of the Pentagon. We're protecting this place, right,
And that's a he always everything he did was I'm
not giving anybody a leg up everything, and he's going
to try the same approach to North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
But you got to win.
Speaker 8 (01:17:29):
And if he doesn't win, you're right, they'll be talking
about the Dean you know, the Dean Smith's team in
North Carolina basketball, not his team, but you know what
I'm saying. But like what happened with at Kentucky Stoops
got him winning, like what's happened in some other places
where it's no longer just a footballs that you do
that we're relevant and North Carolina mac Brown did a
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good job making them relevant. They never want a Nation title,
but was Sam Howe. They start to get better and
Belichick can extend that. Now you want to talk about
the legend growing, get to the playoff and watch how
quickly it'll people say, oh gosh, And then it'll even
bother him more because he waltzed in, took over a
college program which he's never been a head coach, of
a college program and starts kicking your ass there different.
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But Bill's done it his way a long time. But
I'll garant ask to you. Didn't we say the same
thing about Saban a person would ask a question. Now
he's in the media and we think he's one of
the most personal audi He's fantastic, So they're seeing a
different side him. Guys, do it different, you know what?
And for the Tiger Woods and Tiger as he got
older and started to see his career mortality, you do
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You're like, Okay, you kind of let the guard down.
I don't have to put the shield up. We've all
been there. Tell me when you're going through something, tell
me you haven't gone into a little bit of a corner. Said,
I know when I went through my rock bottom, the
rest of it, I disappeared. And then when you come back,
it's like, okay, not that you went through rock bottom.
Somebody's punishing, but you say, okay, is it worth that
on your own self?
Speaker 9 (01:18:51):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
And at some point in time you got it. Look
at Brady, it was a grinder and a grinder boy.
Speaker 8 (01:18:56):
We saw a different personality when when he at the end,
when he got the Tampa was having more fun, and
maybe Bill was part of the reason he was having
more fun that Bill wasn't around. But I think it
happens to a lot. But the can of worms will
definitely be open. And if they lose, of course, people
are gonna pounce. And it's human nature, whether we like
it or not. For people's jealousy.
Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
And if he didn't give you the interview, if you
didn't get what you wanted, if he kind of got
on you like parcels would do or saving at a
press conference, there is no doubt and there's jealousy also
that a man that's seventy or whatever he is now
in his se can pull a thirty year old. That
exists too, because now it's not turned into patting your
buddy on the back. Say, man, you pull you pulled
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somebody forty years or fifty years younger than you. It's
with him, it's that's gross. It's great. If it was
a rock and roll guy, you know what they'd be saying.
But man, you badass, you're pulling something forty years younger
than you. Stephen You, Errol Smith and Steven Todler, whether
it is or you get my point with him, Bill
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gives you, it's easy to get after him because he
doesn't let you.
Speaker 8 (01:20:00):
And we want our guy, we want our athletes and
coaches to let us in. And when they're honest and
we let him in, guess what we do. How dare
him right?
Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
So, whether you like it or not, the moral part
of it, Bill, there's no doubt that he will have
to face that and deal with it. In hints why
winning in college it's it's going to be even tougher
because now, because of the expectations and the way it
ended in New England, people are going to pounce because
they think there's some vulnerability there and that there's room
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to do it. And he's not sitting on a thing.
Tom Brady's not his quarterback.
Speaker 7 (01:20:34):
Well, I mean take a guy like Greg Popovitch, for example,
once he stopped winning, all of his other things, the politics,
the being a curmudgeon, not really want to do the
endgame interview, all of those things, it's started to wear
thin with people.
Speaker 8 (01:20:47):
Well, not only that that Greg Popovich is a great
coach and wish him well in his health and in
his retirement, but I can tell you this that Popovich
made it easy not to like him. And then when
it's over with and you want to you know he's
going through he say, man, what a great coach, but
he was losing it and said, oh now now the
IMPACT's a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
You got to do it different.
Speaker 8 (01:21:08):
Then we start to say, oh, well you don't have
Tony Parker and David Robinson or Tim Duncan or managing Nobili.
Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Oh so you can only coach stars. You hear that
great coach.
Speaker 8 (01:21:18):
But yes, when the vulnerability sets in, people, oh there's
a crack, let me go see if I can break
that thing wide open. And I don't think Pops yet
got to be kinder and gentler. Maybe through the health
issues he will, but as a coach, abrasive and hard
to like. But think about this him Saban Parcels Belichick.
There's been a lot of them that in order to
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be great tiger Woods, in order to be great.
Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
A lot of them. You've got to be single minded.
At times, you're just selfish.
Speaker 8 (01:21:46):
You just do about the way you go and not
let people in because there's always somebody who's willing to
disrupt the apple cart in your own building. It's not
a lot of times people outside, it's the people inside.
And so those guys guard against it and have done
a great job. But the second there's failure, it's easy
to pounce on somebody that you say he treated us.
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I mean he didn't treat us very well, right, so
I'm gonna go get him. Happens all the time. Well,
winning cures all things. You're to stop winning, well, that's
when the flaws start to show. All right, let's get
back into the astros conversation. As if you're gonna blame
these guys, well then you're really kind of wasting your time.
We'll talk about it here.
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Speaker 7 (01:23:11):
It would have been out in one of one ballparks
out there, and Dykin Park just happened to be one
of them. Astros GM, Dana Brown going to join us
at nine point thirty four his weekly visit, and Sean,
you know, we played the montage to starting to show
today of all the runners left on bass scenarios, and
Cooper Hummel was one of them. Zach Short strikes out
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looking there in the ninth with the winning run on
second base after Mauricio Dubond doubles off left center field wall.
Taylor Tremmell one of them. A couple of hits out
of him last night, so that's good to see. But still,
I mean, it gets back to what we were talking about.
I'm with you on the you don't coast into this thing.
You try to win every single one of these games,
which they're trying to do. I mean, the last couple
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of nights, it's been hard luck for him and they've
just fallen in both of those games.
Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
That happens, but it's also too I mean, this is.
Speaker 7 (01:24:02):
Almost kind of like getting upset with the host at
a restaurant because your steak wasn't cooked right, you know
what I mean? Like, am I really gonna be upset
with a guy that's a sub two hundred hitter? Well,
he did so well in La Okay, that's the exception,
that's not the rule. For Zach Short, he's batted under
two hundred for his career for a reason, Cooper Hummel,
it's been a guy trying to hold onto a major
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league spot. Same deal with Taylor Tremmell. He's bounced around
a little bit. But it again comes back to what
we talked about earlier is I'm not gonna be upset
with those guys because they're doing the best that they can.
At this point, it's about the other guys that you
count on. Again, Victor Carrottini, nice grand slam out there
in La nice one out in Colorado. But then you've
got an opportunity to be able to tie a ball
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game up, and he popp one up in the foul
territory and you kind of ruined that entire inning.
Speaker 8 (01:24:51):
So for you give me your overall evaluation, as I
hear you say, with eighteen games over five hundred, and
the frustration you have with the Daz or somebody who's
you expect more from, not the guys like you said, well,
Jake Myers. Well for every gain or Daz, there's a
Jake Myers right now. So now flip it you would
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have said, well, I expect Jake Myers to hit two twenty, right,
and I expect.
Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
He's performing well above.
Speaker 8 (01:25:20):
Okay, so as I'll go back to mind, I'm not
as frustrated if it bothers me game to game, But
the overall you know, when we're looking at one series,
one game, one player, but the overall grind or ability,
or camaraderie or performance, while it may not be up
to standard what we're used to, would it? Does it
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make you feel any better to know that, even though
this guy's not doing it, that a Jake Myers is
pulling your So I know you want them all, but
at what point time? Now, I guess my point is,
at what point time if it continues like this? Are
you know that everybody doesn't stay hot for a long
time and some seasons some don't get hot at all?
Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
So how for you? What's going to satisfy you? What
do you want that picture to look like?
Speaker 8 (01:26:07):
Eighteen? What if I told you that Yaner Daz was
going to get smoking hot? Ass was Christian Walker? But
when Painting gets back, he's going to hit two thirty
and al Tuvey is gonna go through a month's slump
and they're gonna they're gonna play less than five hundred baseball.
Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
Would you be willing to.
Speaker 8 (01:26:27):
Sacrifice that to make sure that they that the guys
you need, the D's and Christian Walker ht. My point
is the chances of you getting your questions answered this
year about the hitting everybody hot for a long time.
Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
You and I both know what the chances of that are.
Speaker 7 (01:26:41):
Well, I'm not asking for everybody to get hot, but
I am asking for the guys that I do expect
more out of to be able to do the job.
Speaker 8 (01:26:48):
Because again, you know, as I mentioned last night, how
often to do the job with yanerd Is. I know
we've seen it, but we Yaner d Is is not
a three thirty hitter. I mean, I know he's better
than he's hitting and chasing right the optics that we're
looking at, right, I get that, But I just I
mean so, but the success of this team, even though
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some aren't contributed, they are contributing, but not in the
way we want.
Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
I just isn't this how sports goes? Though?
Speaker 8 (01:27:16):
Sometimes that's fart and I understand, But Yaner Diaz isn't
Johnny Bench just yet. He's still in the infancy of
his career.
Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
I'm not. I am one hundred per year to do.
Speaker 8 (01:27:27):
We've had this conversation on and off the air about
the things you expect, but is it more us or
than the temperates? And we know they're working on it,
they want to get it going. But if he goes
on and goes hot for three weeks and then it's
cold for two weeks, isn't that kind of the way
baseball goes Unless your name's Tony Gwynnor, one of those
cats that just is always the mookie bets of the
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otanis that are just different. Everybody's not different when it
comes to success. And I know I'm trying to and
not even rationalize, trying to see it half full, because
I guess at the end of the year, I don't
want to come in here say and mend Is hit
three twenty, but we lost the division because four other
guys got hurt or hot. I would love it all
to happen. But the realistic part of it and the
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the the non grind for us where you like sweating
every single game. I'm trying this year to look at
the overall production as opposed to that guy's not pitching, well,
that guy's not hitting well. And you can't say that
about much of the pitching to the to the point
because in one hundred and sixty two games, the chances
of eighty of them you getting everybody rolling At the
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same time, I know you just like less of a
gap in it. I get it, But I'm willing to
deal with two forty yin DEAs right now. If the
hitting elsewhere, other guys elevate because that's what their jobs
to do, and we expect it from our stars. But
sometimes you're starting what's going to happen if I mean,
if Jordan comes back and has a great and has
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an average, we're used to him having great seasons, but
as just where he's sitting, two thirty eight, two forty five,
comes back, play seventy games, play six games, and they're
still winning. I know, in the offseason say well, that's
got to get better, and it will and we expect it.
But what's going to be in more important the wins
or the individual fact that hey, yeah, yan Or d
Is and yord On Alvarez got hot, and put it
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this way, if they get hot, it'll look different. If
if jord On Alvarez is hot for two months, it's
gonna look different than if cam Smith was hot for
two months.
Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
Why.
Speaker 8 (01:29:24):
There's just certain guys that can load you on the
back and carry it. And we know that Jordon cam
but in Yan or d Is or any of these guys.
I think Dan, as we went in and talked about it,
maybe this is just a year that you're gonna have
to deal the highs and lows. My concern is if
this continues and the pitching starts to struggle then and
I think that's where you're kind of headed with this,
that oh man, we don't borrow trouble, but man, we
better get out in front of this because if you
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don't start to get on at some point in time,
like the last two games, you're gonna give up more
runs than you're used to. And if you're not hitting,
then the gap closes with those teams that are. There's
a give and take. I get that, but I mean
it is also though too. It just feels like the
pitching is giving much mo more agreat than the hitting is.
Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
And it's a day to day thing. Compartment day.
Speaker 8 (01:30:03):
We come on a show every day, so we got
to talk about every game every day, right, and we
get to talk about him, and it changes tomorrow. If
he goes four for four, we'll celebrate him tomorrow or Friday,
or if he goes four for four today, and then
if he goes oh for four and strikes out and
takes the golden sombrero on Friday, you're judging it. So
the key for me is to look at the game
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and the overall injuries, but look at the game and
then not worry about what Yanerds is going to look
like four weeks from now, but day to day. So
I understand the compliments and the criticism that we give him.
Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
But what he hit last year? What was his average
last year? What he hit, what would it end? I'm
just using that as all.
Speaker 8 (01:30:43):
What was he in the seventies to sixties to seventies,
somewhere in that range, just his overall numbers and just
as a as a as a mark and two ninety
nine last year, okay, well, and in two ninety nine,
which I don't think any of us thought that he
was a two ninety nine, three hundred guy when he
came in, power twenty five home runs, driving eighty five nine.
Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
But he's always been a good hit two sixty five seventy,
he would be fine with me, right right, And what
is he hitting right now? Two forty two? Okay, so
if he gets close. Maybe it was a little down season.
Speaker 8 (01:31:13):
But if you can push it to two sixty and
they keep winning, that'll help them continue to win. But
to your point, the pitching, it's still a lot of
pressure when the three four to five hitters. Now take
a look at the three four five hitters in this
lineup when Jordan's been healthy. They what they are doing.
They're not doing a lot of damage at times. But
for me, it's more consistency than I'm not even looking
(01:31:34):
at the average. But if you can drive on those
days when you're not hitting, you know you'll one for
four and hit a three run homer because it's timely
that if he doesn't hit two ninety nine, I'll be
okay with it. But they're certain he has got to
pick up the temple, there's no doubt. But the pressure
you're putting on pitching is enormous. If you continue to
be inconsistent at the plate.
Speaker 7 (01:31:52):
It just shouldn't come down to Cooper, Hammel, Taylor Tremmell,
Zach Short And I know that again, that montage we played,
it was a lot of those guys and those runners
left on base situations. But it's I need more out
of the guys that I can expect more out of
and be pleasantly surprised with those guys.
Speaker 8 (01:32:10):
What's your biggest disappointment with the Astros this year? It's
the middle of the order hitting.
Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
There's no doubt. There's no doubt. I mean again last night,
I think it's a no brainer. You get the first
couple of guys on base and now two Veay moves
the guy over all, right, great job, you know to
sacrifice fly.
Speaker 7 (01:32:25):
We love to see that. But then it's a routine
ground ball to third. A routine ground ball is short.
I mean, I put out the tweet US said, that's
routine fungo practice right there that you just gave them
from guys that honestly, you got to have more out
of in that spot.
Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Even though it's early in the game. You still need
more out of those guys.
Speaker 8 (01:32:41):
Do you believe they can survive with the three four,
five hole if you're done playing like he did before
the injury and Christian Walker slash Jiner Diaz kind of
the up and dead the Dow Jones part of their season.
Do you believe even if the pitching holds up like
it has, do you believe they can win a championship
with the way they're swinging the bat right now, barely
holding on? Okay, so you think that gap is going
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to close because the Rangers aren't going to continue to
play this way all year. They will finally find a
hot streak and you don't want it to start against you.
Speaker 7 (01:33:10):
And when that happens, then then you got a division
race on your hands. Do you trust that you just
said the Rangers are going to go on a hot streak?
And I think the Gram's at all start too, right.
Speaker 8 (01:33:18):
I mean, if you say he has come back, the
guy's great pitching wise, I know, And you can make
a case that the big right hander Nathan Evaldi is
an All Star too.
Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
You could make that case. He's had a good season.
But so you just told me that you expect.
Speaker 8 (01:33:34):
The text Strangers get hot, which means hitting a lot
of times for them because they got good pitching that's
been once let them down. Then do you have the
same expectations for jan Or Christian Walker and Jordan.
Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
Jiner?
Speaker 7 (01:33:47):
Yes, Walker, I hope Jordon absolutely, because it's what we've expected,
what we've seen.
Speaker 8 (01:33:52):
Well, if that's the case, then hang on. Don't let
yourself get beat up, because if you're saying it's going
to happen, then eighteen games over five hundred with a
lead in the division would to wit seven games, six
and six and a half games when you got that lead.
If it's going to happen and you're putting that much
faith in what the Rangers are going to do and
we're going about to see them here this weekend, then
you've got guys that you believe and their history tells
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you that they can. Then what's not for us to
expect the same thing. Now, if you don't get it
from either, but you get it from pitching. The Astros
are in great position. So it's the expectations for us.
But I get it every day. We got to talk
about it. But they're going to need Basically, if they
don't hit like you expect them to, you think the
gap is going to close.
Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
And this is the last two weeks type of win
the division season is what you think.
Speaker 7 (01:34:37):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's why we'd be tracking to
you continue to kind of have these inconsistent performances with
the Bats because I can't expect the pitching to hold up.
Speaker 8 (01:34:45):
The way it has all year, and if it does,
if you want to name a team MVP, it'll be
that whole group, right and not named Panya if that
keeps up. So I don't have answers, but we have
a lot of questions, but we do have some some
pretty good optics to see. But the expectations here, and
I think it's a good thing, is the criticism. Even
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though they're eighteen games over five hundred. You do expect
more the plate from this team and from some of
the guys you've mentioned, and if you get it, then
it's going to be a fun finish to this season.
Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
Strong takes a.
Speaker 7 (01:35:17):
Part of this business, and sometimes some can be weaker
than others. This one might be one of the weakest
ones I've ever seen. We'll talk about it here. It
is the Sean Salisbury Show on a Western Wednesday, Sports
Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
The Sewan Salisbury Show continues and a no, now you know.
Speaker 7 (01:35:37):
Ah, you know what, Hey, maybe we're too hard on
the guy or a lady because they actually made a
good point. But here's another lesson that I think is
in this business is there's two things that I am
very uncomfortable doing. Number one is questioning a guy's physical ability.
You know, are they in shape, are they not? Any
of those different things. And the other one is effort.
(01:35:59):
But that didn't stop Kansas City host Kevin Keatsman is
his name, and he was reacting to a photo that
got out over fourth of July weekend of Patrick Mahomes
a little bit of a dad bod there. His response,
he's fat, He's an embarrassment. Stop the fast food, do
a sit up, do something I don't understand it. You
(01:36:20):
can't run through the NFL career eating taco bell all
the time, in door, dashing fried chicken. You've got a
five hundred million dollar contract. It's your job. He's done
nothing but eat and drink this offseason. Well, of course,
the Internet being the Internet, somebody out there posted a
picture of Keatsman where.
Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
It looks like he's eating at a culver's.
Speaker 7 (01:36:41):
If I had to guess, I don't even know if
we have culvers down here, but it's a those that
don't do okay, I have one in my time. Okay, Yeah,
So those that don't know it's a burger frozen custard
play is very customary.
Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
There are a time a dozen all throughout the Midwest,
pretty damn good. But a picture of him on there and.
Speaker 7 (01:36:56):
That's exactly the lesson, like for a guy like me,
or it's you know, saying, oh, that guy's fat, that
guy's out of shape. Immediately, I guarantee you my Twitter
feed's gonna be full of pictures of me because I
could seem to lose a few. And if I'm the
guy doing that, then soon enough, you got to face
the guys after you say something like that. You better
be on all ten toes and ten fingers at that
(01:37:19):
point because it's going to be thrown back at you
and then some oh, and you have.
Speaker 8 (01:37:24):
To show up after that. You can't stay behind it.
You can't sit behind in a radio or television studio
and say it and then not go be the guy
at practice and when they walk off the field they
know it's you, because then you'll lose more respect. You
got to face the music if you get it, and
criticism does happen.
Speaker 9 (01:37:37):
Now.
Speaker 8 (01:37:38):
The difference in the other argument the other way is
going to be, well, one guy's a professional athlete, one's
not so. And if you compare it to a lot
of post career stuff or media members, it's we did
do a lot of sitting around, you know what I'm saying,
and I get it, and travel and eating in press boxes.
Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
That's to do.
Speaker 8 (01:37:54):
I get all that I personally, you know when you
say I'm not gonna people have different routines, and let's
face facts, Mahomes hasn't exactly been a an Adonis chiseled
out of stone since he came out of tech sick.
Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
That's just not been his body type. That's okay.
Speaker 8 (01:38:13):
He's had great success not having not looking like well
Vinny Testaverd he was when he's mentioned four fifty or
Tim Tebow. Okay, but he's done it and it works
for him. But there is something too pushing for now
do I think it's harsh? Does he really know that
all's Mahomes is done, eat taco bell and drink beer.
(01:38:34):
I mean, maybe he hasn't had some fun and he
should enjoy the fruits of his labor. But you also
got to remember your day job and the commitment to it.
So I'm not questioned that until I see if in
fact your performance threat is you gain twenty five pounds
in the off season and you're fat and out of shape,
and it shows because you're just mechanics. Start to suffer
and you're letting your team down. Then you go and say,
(01:38:55):
got to get your ass in shape. I don't know
why the person stuff he's fat all he does drink beer.
It's almost like it's a hot take thing trying to
get because now it's everybody's talking about across the country.
Right now, I will say this and it's not talking
about mahomes body and the rest of it. Did Patrick Mahomes.
He's fortunate, he's been really healthy, He's got a good
team and it works for him. Listen, we've seen plenty
(01:39:16):
of guys. Do you say, how is how is he
getting this done? He looks out of shape that just
play fifteen years and they just don't. They don't look
like you think of professional athletes supposed to walk into
a baseball clubhouse. Eighty percent of them, at least back
in the day. They get in shape, they've show they
you'd sink man in a uniform look pretty good. They
pull it off and they got the done lap disease
(01:39:37):
where the belly's hanging of Doune. It happens in all sports,
football too, So I'm not an attack a guy for
that unless the performance is suffering and you say, got
to get ben Brian Liemolte. When we were on here
a couple of years ago, he questioned Javier's conditioning and
he was out of shape.
Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
Because he looked a little heavier.
Speaker 8 (01:39:55):
And when you're on there and you're trying to grind
and five won't get you six because you're out of shape.
Five extra pounds didn't get you to six innings. So
and it wasn't an attack and bad body, but it's
like the commitment. We've had that same talk about James
Harden in this city and he'll still go score thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
So some guys can do it. It's not the current.
Speaker 8 (01:40:13):
I'll tell you what does concern me though, I don't
know how much he's lifting, and he does a lot
of commercials and people he's in high demand. But he
still had his team in the Super Bowl again last year,
so it works for him. Here's the key. What happens
when he's thirty five or thirty four. Maybe it doesn't matter,
maybe he'll be maybe he'll want to retire by then.
But there is that thing of and some guys are
(01:40:34):
fortunate they don't get hurt, and they may be a
little soft.
Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
Mahomes is always.
Speaker 8 (01:40:37):
It looks like he's always it looks like his body's
probably twenty years ahead of the time as far as
a little dad. But it's okay. The guy is still
the best player in the league at his position.
Speaker 9 (01:40:46):
Now.
Speaker 8 (01:40:46):
Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson are charging and Joe Burrow, but
he doesn't look the part, so it's easy to criticize.
Yet he still has success. And Tony Gwenn, you think,
how's this good? And Tony was tremor and played Point
Guarden College. But Tony Gwynn, you know, and he say,
how does this guy hit three forty and strike out
twelve times during the year when that mid section doesn't
look like a guy who's about to retire Yet bam
(01:41:07):
bam bam, two hundred and twenty more hits. Some guys
that just it's just different, And I think Mahomes maybe
that guy. But the question is really going to be
as he moves on two or three years and the
hits start to mount, what does he do in the offseason?
You watched a guy like Brady, who's always been a
little more sinewy, right, but you know how he stayed
ahead of it. His off season commitment was every bit
(01:41:29):
as much as it was watching tape during the season,
even though he wasn't carved out of stone. Because you
remember seeing Brady's body when he came out Combine, people
were like, man like the underwear Olympics is a right
pat And yes, and guess all three of those guys
as durable as you will ever see. Now, we've also
seen guys that are jacked up and yoked up that
(01:41:49):
are hurt all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
So it may not be. And it's I think it's
to me.
Speaker 8 (01:41:53):
When you attack a guy like that, you better understand
what you're attacking and why and see the history of
his success because right now, this saint. The last time
Mahomes shown up and people look at him and say,
got a little bit of a dad bod, you've seen it.
He's doesn't look like he's ashamed of it because he
didn't care. But he's had success. So I'm not arguing
with success. If a guy throws sidearm but can be successful,
(01:42:14):
why the hell would I change it. It's the same
thing here, but he himself is going to have to
start to watch as he gets a little older the
off sea, because what happens is they're tough. You heard
Sean Casey, guy who's a world class athlete, a baseball player.
As you get a little older, the recovery's tougher and
the rehab suffer.
Speaker 1 (01:42:31):
The off seat.
Speaker 8 (01:42:31):
Guys don't retire because they don't like football season. Guys
retire because the off season grind to stay in condition
to play. Unlike the old days, you'd show up to
get in shape. That's not the case in mahomes case.
It's just different. If you ever think you're going to
see Mahomes be Charles Atlas where he's just jacked and
yoked and carved out of stone. Granted that's not happening,
but it's worked for him. So until it doesn't work
(01:42:54):
for him, I would suggest you probably lay away from this,
stay away from the now. If you start seeing bad reads,
can't step away out of the pocket because he's a
little just a step behind, then you can start the
is it because he's out of shape? But right now
now you got to now if you're the broadcast that
you're talking about, now it's flipped on you that you
turn came back to you. And now if he goes
(01:43:16):
out and plays like the MVP, then what so and
he's capable of doing that?
Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
No Jack Lalane, right, he is no Jack Laline. We're
gonna do I need to see an NFL player in
a one piece like Jack with a belt on, right, Yeah,
so it is and it's workout show is this a
hockey game? Right now?
Speaker 8 (01:43:33):
If he shows up and performs, not Jack Lulaane but
Mahomes and it's like he's a step slow, like you
saw Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins a step slow after
Achilles injuries. Yeah, not out of being out of shape,
but Achilles injuries. If you're a step slow just because
you are a little soft, and he's a little soft
in the midst it's a little bit, and that's okay.
Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
It works for him.
Speaker 8 (01:43:55):
Pat likes to party, tell you what, Andy Reid and
ain't getting the way his play calling is it And
he's still gonna have that burger and he loves it,
and he'd affected his mind and he's the most brilliant
play caller in the league.
Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
So it works for them.
Speaker 8 (01:44:08):
The key is three years from now while it still
work and Mahomes knows his body and maybe he's just
got all of the buys. That's never gonna look now.
The key is what's it gonna look like post Maybe
he'll get down to two hundred and just be trimmed
like a lot of guys are. But it's just kind
of it works for him and until until he's not successful.
The truth of the matter is do you really care?
But that's just a nice hot take to go attack
(01:44:28):
Mahomes because you want to. If he drinks beer and
if he eats Taco bell and keeps bringing me to
the Super Bowl, eat three of them, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
You get to deal with that.
Speaker 8 (01:44:39):
The question is gonna come if his production starts to fall,
And the argument also you're gonna see is their production
offensively has fallen off the last couple years. I don't
think it's just necessarily because some guy thinks Patrick Mahomes
is fat, out of shape. I think that's probably a
little hyperbolic. But if you're also on the other side
saying you're gonna see him where he's doing modeling pictures
(01:45:00):
with shirtless and you're probably not going to see that
anytime soon, either projection.
Speaker 7 (01:45:04):
Is a real thing. It just it kind of cracks
me up. Like you know, see a hot chick on Instagram,
somebody oh she used to be hotter? Oh really, because
you couldn't even dream buddy up to click on these pictures,
and I'm like, come on.
Speaker 8 (01:45:17):
Man, it's the same guy when their quarterback in the
city throws three interceptions and somebody who I'm not saying
you needed to play to call it, but some guy
will say, oh, that guy sucks, he can't play quarterback.
And then you simply ask them to show them your tape,
meaning his tape, and that ends the conversation. Like I've
said before, it's real easy to, like I said, to
(01:45:37):
criticize but from a distance, but when it comes back
a year, it's like, oh boy, gotta be careful with that.
So that's that's the society we live in. And if
you're Ma Hoomes, you really don't care what the guy
said because you're doing it and he's watching it and
paying for his ticket.
Speaker 7 (01:45:50):
Now, all I got to say is, if you're going
to throw the stones, brother, you better have that armor
to be able to protect your summer, and you better have.
Speaker 8 (01:45:56):
Bulletproof windows because it's coming back your way. There's no
doubt about it.
Speaker 7 (01:46:00):
Yamp Duck for cover, Susie Brandon, see all right there,
get you guys involved. Seven one three, two one two five,
seven ninety. The Astros topic conversation always front of mine.
If you want to jump in on that, we can
do that. Don't forget to Astros.
Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
GM.
Speaker 7 (01:46:13):
Dana Brown gonna join us in less than an hour
for his Wednesday visit here on the Sean Salisbury Show
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
The seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
Listener line in the eight o'clock hour is presented by
one eight hundred car Cash Chumps. Oh yeah no, but
who was the player?
Speaker 8 (01:46:27):
Oh Chet Hulker. Okay, yeah, Chester. I was thinking here
too because Ban Carol the day before got his two
thirty nine or two forty, right, So Chester, Yeah, to me,
if it's two now, you can make up to two seventy.
But the two forty or two fifties fully guaranteed. But
do I need to say fully if it's I mean, hey,
two hundred and forty million guaranteed? My thought process is
(01:46:48):
the whole thing's guaranteed, right, and isn't In basketball and
in baseball, this is a rhetorical question.
Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
Aren't they all fully guaranteed? Get ball?
Speaker 8 (01:47:00):
I think there's a little bit of a wiggle room
base maybe in a ten day deal, right, but yeah.
But if all of a sudden, I sign tomorrow with
the Boston Red Sox and my name or Alex Bregman
gets a new deal with Boston and it's for two
hundred and thirty million, I'm just using him as who.
Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
I don't care who it is. Isn't that all guaranteed?
So do I need the word fully? Well? I mean
that's just sick.
Speaker 7 (01:47:25):
Two hundred thirty million dollars guaranteed where it's you know, okay,
if it's guaranteed, isn't that isn't that fifty million?
Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:47:31):
If it's two hundred and thirty million guaranteed but worth
two fifty sain, it's two hundred and thirty million of
it's fully guaranteed, and the other twenty million that he
can earn isn't just because it's because it's instantly.
Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
If it's two hundred and thirty guaranteed, then it's two
hundred and thirty guaranteed with a chance to.
Speaker 8 (01:47:45):
Stay damned, with a chance to make twenty million more. Yeah,
I understand semantics and stuff, but I just I've always said, well,
in basketball and baseball, for the most part, I believe
when you sign a contract, that's the money you're getting.
In football, I understand the well, two hundred and thirty
or two hundred and ten million of the two fifties guaranteed.
(01:48:06):
The other forty million dollars, I mean, we don't even
need to say it, because two hundred and ten so
forty million of it isn't whatever that is.
Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
And then if you're fully guaranteed.
Speaker 8 (01:48:13):
To forty but can make two sixty or two fifty,
you're telling me that the other ten to twenty million
dollars is incentive based and that's not guaranteed. And I
think that we should be able to figure that out.
Once there's a discrepancy from two forty to two sixty.
Just tell me the two forty is guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (01:48:26):
We're good to go.
Speaker 7 (01:48:27):
We just stopped doing the same things over and over
again just because we've been doing this in business.
Speaker 1 (01:48:32):
No, we don't have to do that. In this business.
Speaker 7 (01:48:34):
It's either worre two hundred and fifty million dollars guaranteed
or it's not right.
Speaker 8 (01:48:38):
It's it's it's that simple. Yeah, And it's guaranteed fully.
Fully's just redundant. Yes, Guarantee is the essence of if
it's guaranteed. If I say, I guarantee you Dan, we're
gonna go get a burger after this?
Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
Oh, I like it.
Speaker 8 (01:48:52):
But if I say that, do I need to say
it's fully guaranteed that I'm going to get a burger
after this?
Speaker 9 (01:48:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
Guaranteed actually is fully, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (01:48:59):
Yeah, I just afterwards, I won't criticize somebody for their
weakness because I'm gonna have a weed issue of my own.
Speaker 9 (01:49:04):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
All you should for a good burger. We all should.
But yet I'm with you.
Speaker 8 (01:49:09):
I know it's a little nitpicky, but I'm with you.
It's like, if it's guaranteed fully, Once it's guaranteed, I know,
then you could tell me the other twenty million is
incentive base that I know that's not guaranteed unless you
reach them and play the certain number of snaps in football,
or pitch a number of innings in baseball, or if
you play a number of minutes in basketball, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
But yeah, guaranteed, it's a good word, fully guaranteed yep,
cracks me up.
Speaker 7 (01:49:33):
Someone three two and two five seven to ninety ladies
get to the front of line. Here on the Sean
Salisbury Show, Susie clear Lake, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
Good morning, Good morning guys.
Speaker 10 (01:49:43):
I just wanted to weigh and on. You know, it's
frustrating that right now it seems like half our team
is from Sugarland, you know, the treumels and the shorts
and et cetera. Excuse me, I.
Speaker 9 (01:49:54):
Brought them doing my morning exercise.
Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
But uh so I'm looking.
Speaker 10 (01:50:01):
Hitting that and actually the Astros not not my last
obviously three days, but the Astros lead all a major
league hitting two sixty one.
Speaker 9 (01:50:10):
I was shocked. So that's there's that now.
Speaker 8 (01:50:16):
I mean, it is worth a lot, and and do
you appreciate the correct Your problem is when I say
your problem, you're you're you're uh, it's not even a gripe.
Your concern is that it's not coming from certain bodies
you wanted to come from Bingo, and mine was that
it's actually coming that you're actually getting more production from
guys you didn't. So it kind of bounces it out
(01:50:36):
and it's a great number. They're leading patting it and
think that they're doing that without Jordan hitting. Pain is hurt,
but his obviously comes into play because he's qualifying it
Pats and he's played most of the season. But you're
getting unbelievable play from Cam Smith, Jake Myers, guys now
two base picking it up.
Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
So it's a great point that you rob Peter. Now
you're paying Paul, you rob Peter with these.
Speaker 8 (01:50:58):
You these guys that weren't expected to do their thing
are doing it, and the guys you did aren't.
Speaker 9 (01:51:03):
Well.
Speaker 8 (01:51:03):
Now the question is if at flip flops will stay
there and then the expectation. I also though kind of
like guys that we didn't expect that are doing it
because at some point I think the confidence tells us
that the guys we did expect will do it. So
I'd rather have it this way than the other way.
I would, because if those guys are playing every day
and they're the guys we didn't expect it, you're like,
damn wa the history of the guys like Jainer and
(01:51:25):
a guy like Jordan and Christian Walker when they get going.
Now we're doubling down on it. If it was the
other way, where the stars are going, but everybody else
from six to nine we got nothing going on. Then
it's a problem. So it's a great point, and think
about that. After all this, they're hitting what two sixty
as a team, which you say, two sixty one. It's
(01:51:47):
a great point.
Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
It's just it's the optics that bother you because it's
the wrong people in your mind doing it, Dan, And
that's it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (01:51:54):
It's time for the Peter of this team to become
Nick Tarnowsky and start throwing some bangs.
Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
So where to wear a shirt? Right?
Speaker 8 (01:52:02):
So you want Peter to not have to rob Paul.
You want Peter and Paul to go together. Yeah, yeah,
I get it, man, Then you get it. But it's
a great number. But I'll take those guys that aren't
supposed to be here that are raking and as you
can what as Rake Myers is what we literally call him.
Now take care of his business because at some point
my confidence would be I expect that Jordan Alvarez when
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he comes back, is going to hit. History tells me.
But twenty twenty five is different. Maybe this is the
way it's going to be in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (01:52:30):
Time for you to start throwing that mouth you one
into the pond and then they get back out and
you lay a couple of rounds of bangs on him
and then you bear.
Speaker 8 (01:52:38):
Yeah, then you supplex him. Oh yeah, yeah, good supplex.
What about the pile drive? Did you land the pile driver?
Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
I think that was gonna be next? Okay, I think
if the buddy says set him but that was done,
set him back? Yeah, I think.
Speaker 7 (01:52:50):
I think if the buddies or a power bomb, a
good power bomb, I think would have happened.
Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
Ja.
Speaker 8 (01:52:55):
Yeah, one more approach and the guy might have been
piled drives or yeah, it would have been over. But
he was getting sized up too much with the right
hand man.
Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
They're straight right. It was a fun watch.
Speaker 8 (01:53:06):
Some guys you just realized need an ass whooping, and
then you didn't feel bad for the guy because he
just he begged for more.
Speaker 1 (01:53:11):
He was about to hit him with the d d T.
What's that? Oh that's sweet? You know the headlock a
little bit? Nolan Ryan? Yeah, okay, Nolan Ryan. On then
you and then you fall back and oh yeah, the
guy's head that's a wrestling Yeah, you got him, You
got him. You fall back and you land and you're
kind of cushing his fall, but you got him and
a headlocks. Yeah, there you go. I got you.
Speaker 8 (01:53:30):
That's a good wrestling. But I don't watch enough wrestling,
but I'm with you. I still remember them all.
Speaker 9 (01:53:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:53:35):
Anyways, Susie, grapple, Yeah, I like to face. Good ground game, Yeah,
grapple good. What do you know you're wrestling? I'm a grappler.
Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
Yeah, you're good ground Your ground game is strong. I
love to grapple. Some guys are strikers. Solid word too,
it is?
Speaker 8 (01:53:49):
He was it in a sentence. Grapplers. Yeah, Triple is
a solid grappler. I got How about Dan? What's my guy?
Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
Uh? Time?
Speaker 8 (01:54:00):
Iowa was great wrestler Dan Gable. Yeah, Danny Gable, Dan Gable,
coach wrestler, all time Olympian, Dan Great. Dan Gable could grapple. Yeah,
you feel good? So could Kurt Angle? Yes he could? Yeah,
as he could. Yeah, the All American man himself.
Speaker 7 (01:54:14):
But as Susie reminded us on our Morning Walk, you
can take the Sean Salisbury show on your morning walk
when you set us as preset number one on the
new Free and Improved iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (01:54:24):
Really nice transition by you.
Speaker 8 (01:54:25):
I do what I can every once, every once in
a while, all right, that's your only transition.
Speaker 1 (01:54:30):
Yeah, every once in.
Speaker 7 (01:54:32):
A while, alri the occasion, not that one, but you know,
any others in and be able to, you know, kind
of keep the conversation going that way. Sometimes I find
the segue and Susie, thank you.
Speaker 8 (01:54:41):
That's a hell of a number that I think we
overlook because it's the bodies that we didn't expect to
do it that are doing it.
Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
I love it. I get it. I'm a bad I understand.
Speaker 8 (01:54:49):
You're not a bad person. It's just a disdained Danny's
got a rears head once.
Speaker 9 (01:54:53):
I like it.
Speaker 8 (01:54:54):
Yeah, it makes for good banter. I told somebody last
night that it would show and I post, yeah, yeah,
you'll go i' four days a week. There's a little
disdain in a kind of segment, but that's okay because
it gives us something good to talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
You drive down I forty five at four to forty
five in the morning. I'm too busy dealing with I ten. Yeah,
the struggle. I don't want both. It's real. Oh, big time, yeah,
big time.
Speaker 9 (01:55:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:55:15):
The saving graces were on it early enough to it's
not overly bad. So no complaints here for sure.
Speaker 7 (01:55:23):
Will continue the Astros conversation if you want to jump
in seven one three, two one two five, seven ninety. Again,
don't forget Astros GM. Dana Brown joins us for his
weekly visit coming up at nine thirty. Also, want to
get into a little bit of college football as this
show goes along. We'll have all that for you before
the close of business. Here on a Wednesday, Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
This is Craig Busy. Oh you're listening to Sean Salisbury
on Sports Talk seven ninety, who have so fun.
Speaker 8 (01:55:53):
You're home with the Stros that Taylor Sheridan bought Cattleman's,
that that restaurant game spent three mil upgrading it and
gonna have for three I think it was three. But
for three thousand dollars you can join a membership to
get you VIP upstairs and you get different. I mean,
he gets special treatment. And I don't know whatever that
is of cigars or whiskey or whatever, but he bought
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that upgrade.
Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
It's right there in Fort Worth, and dude, you.
Speaker 8 (01:56:17):
Talk and he's the steak and it's gonna be a
steakhouse where obviously, and he owns like four or five
ranches around the country that raised the cattle. So he's
gonna use his own. Yeah, but he's got they're all
over the place. Yeah, and he's got he's gonna obviously
use his own beef. So pretty cool. That guy's in everything.
He is in everything.
Speaker 7 (01:56:37):
Well, you do a lot of popular things, usually a
lot of scratch comes your way.
Speaker 8 (01:56:41):
Yeah, so you got to find somebody ranch that's exactly right,
provide more beef. That's right, criticism, that's a legendary place
and form yea been there, lots of staple, absolutely broiled
steaks right there.
Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
And you can even see him. You know, you got
the little stove oven right there.
Speaker 8 (01:56:55):
Oh yeah, I like steakhouse where I can look peer
through the window and check it out and see how
they're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
I do.
Speaker 8 (01:57:00):
He just gives you a little more insight. But Taylor
Sheridan's corner in the market on a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
Brother, Yes he is.
Speaker 7 (01:57:05):
And then you know the one thing too, is people
always point out is he'll feature himself on his shows
like he's a navy seal or something like that. It's like,
all right, Taylor, we get it, man. So you're basically
saying If you want to know how good he is, yeah,
just ask him. But I'm telling you what he pulls
a lot of Does anybody pull more weight in the
industry right now with what he's done?
Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
Everybody want, everybody wants to work with you.
Speaker 8 (01:57:26):
Is an that he's that guy that that fast riser
who all of a sudden and I remember Houston act
in those B movies, dude like he was. He seriously
started a couple of you like like Jeepers cree wasn't
a Jeepers Creepers but one out where he was like
an actor and one of those you're like, make something right.
You're like, is this guy for gonna make it? Well,
he's made it. And while the acting's fine, it's all
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the other stuff. Well that's that's the lesson that he
taught about. Why he started writing and directing is because he,
you know, complained about his role or something and the
guy said to him, you're eleventh on the call sheet,
like basically like, you're very replaceable, trust me, so do
something that makes you irreplacement, And right now is pretty
good he has.
Speaker 1 (01:58:04):
Yeah, he figured out, hey, let's get into the middle
of America here, and people are like, oh, Hey, I
want to be part of that.
Speaker 8 (01:58:09):
Absolutely, And then when you produce it and put it
out there and ride it, make sure it's a good one,
and you get the right actors to do it. And
every step of the way from the costerners and the bridges,
he's had some people along the way that are crushing
it for him. And that's what, like you said, you
get to buy restaurants, legendary restaurants and Fort Worth and
do it the way you want and make it a
private membership upstairs for a little extra you know, maybe
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maybe a little extra good whiskey.
Speaker 7 (01:58:32):
Who the hell knows I was going to say, I mean,
knowing from experience at that place, old fashioned bam.
Speaker 8 (01:58:39):
Oh yeah, put it this way, whatever it is, it'll
be done, upgraded and done a little different in a
good way.
Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
Now, pretty impressive.
Speaker 7 (01:58:47):
No, absolutely, head over the stockyards. You know you're getting
yourself a good cut of beef. Brandon and Gary. See
you guys right there. We'll work you guys in here
as we start the fourth hour of the show. Don't
forget Diana Brown going to join us bottom of hour
number Foo right here it is Sean Salisbury Show Sports
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and Brandon, Good morning, How are you?
Speaker 3 (02:02:10):
Good morning?
Speaker 9 (02:02:10):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (02:02:11):
You haven't guys heard of that top?
Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
Yeah? The country singer? Yeah? You want to hear some.
Speaker 2 (02:02:20):
I can see if we can do it.
Speaker 9 (02:02:22):
And that's right.
Speaker 1 (02:02:23):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 7 (02:02:24):
You got a lot of pool triple leis, so I trust,
I trust your abilities.
Speaker 9 (02:02:31):
Gebuary did you hear that.
Speaker 1 (02:02:33):
There you go, loud and clear. He's got you.
Speaker 9 (02:02:39):
Can you play the things when I was buying.
Speaker 7 (02:02:43):
I'm sure, I'm sure he'll be good. What do you
got on these astros, Brandon? Yes, we do, Brandon. We
also need, you know, hitting with runners in scoring position.
That's huge. We need some of that, Brandon. Can you
help us with that?
Speaker 1 (02:02:57):
Yes, I can do it in my game.
Speaker 9 (02:02:59):
Waiter.
Speaker 1 (02:02:59):
Okay, well there you go.
Speaker 7 (02:03:01):
Well if you do it in your game, then we
know how it's going to translate over to uh the
uh game tonight. But not only with them. You get
the Rangers coming in town. We got to hold them off.
Speaker 1 (02:03:10):
Brandon. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (02:03:13):
I'm going to the game Saturday.
Speaker 1 (02:03:16):
Sweet. Okay, we'll have fun man and bring them awain.
Speaker 9 (02:03:21):
Hey, I will.
Speaker 1 (02:03:22):
All right, man, we'll talk to you later, Okay, see
tomorrow morning. Awesome. All right. I appreciate it, man. He
know what's a little zach top? Yeah? He does. I
got it for him?
Speaker 7 (02:03:31):
Okay, yeah, like it. I mean I think it was
playing in the background. I just I don't know the
song exactly. Yeah, Like when it comes to that, like,
there's there's a reason I have to use Sam I couldn't.
Speaker 8 (02:03:40):
I mean, I heard the muse, but I couldn't hear that.
I couldn't quite hear what it what song by Zack
Top it was?
Speaker 7 (02:03:47):
Remember, I said to speaking of country music artists, of
somebody that I want to get on the air, I
think we've got legs Parker McCollum. Really yeah, So if
there is, if there is an update to add to that,
I will add it at the appropriate time.
Speaker 1 (02:04:02):
But I do believe that be nice.
Speaker 8 (02:04:04):
It would be sports fan who's got it, who's crushing
it on U in his uh, in his career.
Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
So that's awesome to see.
Speaker 7 (02:04:12):
And now you got the you know, buckle up for
Safety Texas commercials with him in there and the guy
asked him, hey, well you sign my dashboard. He's like,
I have signed weirder. Yeah, I'm sure, Yeah, sure he has.
That's why I love once, you know. I was listening
to an interview with Luke Brian and he was talking
about doing those outdoor summer country festivals and doing the
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meet and greets with fans and you got guys that
are in tank tops.
Speaker 1 (02:04:36):
He said.
Speaker 7 (02:04:36):
He finally got to a point where it was hey,
you stand there, I'll stand here. All right, there we go,
let's shake hands.
Speaker 1 (02:04:42):
Okay. Yeah, he was like the uh.
Speaker 8 (02:04:44):
Give you some dap with it that I don't want
to and no hugs because your sweaty pits or who
go around me?
Speaker 9 (02:04:50):
What it was?
Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
Who was? Who was the magician for years in Las
Vegas Field?
Speaker 7 (02:04:56):
Yeah, so buddy of mine. They they got a meet
and greet afterwards, did it with stipulations? It was how
was the show?
Speaker 9 (02:05:02):
All?
Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
The show was great? You stand there, he stands there.
That's that's that's the way it works. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:05:07):
Yeah, he might make you disappear if you don't. I
was going to say, you're gonna watch out. Make sure
make sure you're not on the spaceship that he brings in.
Speaker 8 (02:05:14):
Press the digitation slider hand, for instance, used in a
sentence the best play action teams have a great press
the digitator. You can play action slide a hand. Make
it look like it's how.
Speaker 1 (02:05:29):
To spell that?
Speaker 8 (02:05:30):
There you go, I mean I know how to spell press.
I'm assuming press the digitation is.
Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
P r E S.
Speaker 10 (02:05:39):
T.
Speaker 1 (02:05:41):
Is it an I or an A press I G
A I T A T I O N.
Speaker 8 (02:05:47):
Does that make sense? Press the digitation p R E
s press T I T no no T I T
press to digch that'd be T I G I T
A T I win. That's what I'm going with. We'll
go with it, all right, Well, I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 1 (02:06:04):
You get to move on.
Speaker 8 (02:06:05):
Now you've learned something today. Present digitation means slight of hand,
which is magicians about that. I'm just you know, sometimes
you just got to teach. Now, you know what I'm saying.
I was taught that lesson a long time ago. What
the hell's pressed digitation?
Speaker 1 (02:06:17):
And now you see it? And now I seem to
hear it more often.
Speaker 8 (02:06:20):
But I'm waiting for a broadcaster to say, man, the
pressed digitation with Peyton Manning was great at it. Bloomeris
size and great at and it matters. Those guys that
can use that pressed digitation on their play action make it,
make it different, difficult for defense. Just like a good uh,
a good magician doesn't not only give up their secrets,
but you don't really know what they're doing because it
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is slight of hand.
Speaker 1 (02:06:42):
It's like Chris Angel and all that. How's that guy flying?
Where's he been? I think I saw him randomly like
pop up on something. With Fox Nation.
Speaker 7 (02:06:51):
But aside from that, like, yeah, he's he's not floating
around on golf courses anymore doing anything like that.
Speaker 8 (02:06:56):
It's been a minute since I've seen him, like David different.
There you go, only doing all the hudinis.
Speaker 1 (02:07:01):
That's right, That's exactly right. It's gonna say, you know,
Magic needs to make a comeback. Maybe it will. Gary
and spring on's the way and Gary, good morning.
Speaker 11 (02:07:10):
Hey, good morning guys. Uh, I've never heard of did
he say zach Top? I've heard of zz Top, but
never never zach Top.
Speaker 8 (02:07:18):
Zach Top is a popular country in western Uh, Simonie
pretty much a newcomer right now. But he's killing it.
And he's turn on, turn on to turn onto. Why
two countries? I you'll hear a bunch of cuts by him.
So there you go and bus you.
Speaker 11 (02:07:30):
Hey, let's two things I wanted you and you hit
on it right at the end there with Brandon. It
was the biggest thing last night why they didn't win
was uh, runners left in scoring.
Speaker 1 (02:07:41):
Position obviously what was that? How many ways? Was that outrageous?
Whatever the number was?
Speaker 11 (02:07:46):
But anyway, second thing I want to talk about was
Bill Belichick May being an old guy, I can identify
with what he's doing. Uh, But when I heard it,
I just got that bitter beer face on it because
I just it just.
Speaker 1 (02:07:58):
Didn't feel right with me. But that's okay, that's just
my opinion. Uh.
Speaker 11 (02:08:03):
But one other thing, just to kind of pull a
plug on that thing, is if he wasn't rich and famous.
Speaker 1 (02:08:09):
Uh, do you guys think that she would she.
Speaker 9 (02:08:11):
Would be with him?
Speaker 11 (02:08:13):
I don't know it, and I don't really blame him though,
because if I was rich and famous, I would I
would probably want some smooth, unwrinkled skin hanging around with.
Speaker 1 (02:08:21):
Me too, Gary picture Garry. I think I think that
they she loves him. Oh God, I hope so.
Speaker 11 (02:08:32):
She loves She loves parts of him, parts of him
she can see and and it's probably green and other parts.
Speaker 8 (02:08:41):
If there's something she doesn't love about him, she'll get
over it quickly with his Uh when when she knows
the it's kind of nice.
Speaker 11 (02:08:47):
Question, but you know what, he doesn't care what we think.
It's his money and he probably loves her too, So
more power to him.
Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
Amen.
Speaker 9 (02:08:54):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (02:08:55):
Oh he loves her. I'm sure of it. I'm sure
there you go. Appreciate it. Gary, catch up with the letter,
appreciate it? Yeah, no, you know what that is?
Speaker 7 (02:09:03):
That's uh going to a certain club there, dude, I
think she's really into me. Oh really has nothing to
do with the ones you got in your pocket?
Speaker 1 (02:09:11):
Who knew?
Speaker 8 (02:09:11):
What if she loves him? What if she loves him?
What if all of a sudden it was just like, man,
I love his personality. He's hot, Well, then get good
at he's a great love maker. Hey, how'd you meet?
Maybe he maybe he uses his X and O. It's
a different way with her, and it seems like he does.
He applies kisses and hugs as post x's and o's.
Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
I mean, you know.
Speaker 7 (02:09:34):
Julian Edelman brought up a good point where it was, oh,
can he relate to uh to young people? Well, I
think he's showing you, at least at least one that
he can every day every day apparently. So good on Bill, Okay,
good on Bill. You just you're mad at him for what.
I don't know why, because you don't want him to
You don't want him.
Speaker 1 (02:09:50):
To be in love. Let Bill have love.
Speaker 7 (02:09:52):
Man, he can be happy all he wants. It's just
you know, when you see someone's ruining your life and
it's pretty evident. Then then then it becomes an issue.
Speaker 1 (02:10:01):
I guess he probably thinks that he can deal with
whatever path they go on. Good on him.
Speaker 7 (02:10:05):
Well see if the kids can too. Yeah, and we'll
go for evident. They're not a big fan.
Speaker 1 (02:10:10):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 8 (02:10:11):
I would say, when you're gonna marry or dating somebody
that's a lot younger than your own kids, it's probably
a little bit of point of contention at times. But hey,
because they have their mom as well, Hey, what are
you gonna do? People fall in and out of love,
and we'll go find out if this is love. Eventually
it'll be rid'll rear its head if it is, or
if it's for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 7 (02:10:32):
Right, I got I've got odds on the under. Okay,
five years done over, finished under. Probably even at the
end of this year, you're done. You think take the under.
So five years for you is almost to guarantee you're
taking the under that it's over. Yeah, I'm gonna take
the over. They're in it for the long haul.
Speaker 1 (02:10:52):
You'll see how well it's going with how well this
Carolina football season is going.
Speaker 8 (02:10:55):
Yeah, see how yeah, how she deals with a few
how they deal together with a couple through three game
losing streak or something.
Speaker 1 (02:11:01):
Yeah, that'll be a test.
Speaker 8 (02:11:02):
He's got to actually work. I can actually be there
as we all kid around. I always hope that, you know,
for whatever even works out.
Speaker 1 (02:11:07):
It's an odd watch, you know, and it's it's it's
a little uncomfortable, but especially when you're a guy like
me has got a twenty nine year old daughter, you
know the other side of things are like, but listen,
if it make it, I don't really care as long
as I mean, in North Carolina, I'm sure what they
care about is can you can you guys together get
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us wins and less losses? But you know, who the
hell knows? But you're probably right. I wonder if the
real reason they're together was for a good reason, But
who knows. I mean, I understand his point. Nothing to
do with him being a multi time suable winning coach.
Speaker 8 (02:11:43):
Probably not in pub and money and that a lot
of them, I'm sure they have a lot of to
talk about, small talk about. I mean, you know, when
you've got a fifty year difference, I'm sure there's a
lot in common.
Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, I'm sorrying, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (02:11:54):
I can't wait to talk to her for her all
her her long list of experiences through life.
Speaker 1 (02:11:59):
For sure. Yeah, I don't hate him for it. Good
for him. Let's hope that they don't hate each other
by the end of the season. Telling you, I just
I don't think longevity is in the plane.
Speaker 7 (02:12:09):
I'm rooting for their success. Dan, Good for you, man,
there you go. You know what, you're the optimist. You're
a glass half full type of guy.
Speaker 1 (02:12:15):
Well, because right now that doesn't look like it's going
to be filled all the way. But let's hope for
him it is. Right, Well, some a piece for them.
Speaker 7 (02:12:22):
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Speaker 1 (02:14:22):
Back to Sean on Sports Talk seven ninety. First, let's
bring in Logan wants to weigh in. Logan, good morning,
Hey guys, listen, it's a good thing, he asked. It
was built up a little bit of a cushion. I
don't think. I think that's a good thing, So I
don't think we have to worry about it.
Speaker 12 (02:14:39):
Brown had a little bit of an off night last night.
Speaker 1 (02:14:42):
But he was due one.
Speaker 12 (02:14:42):
He's been pitching out, he's been pitching out of his mind,
so let's let's give him a hall pass on that one.
But listen, listen, here's the thing. It was worth the
price of admission the other night. I don't care give
win loser draw. When I saw that bunt, those couple
of bunths at the Cleveland, they moved the guys over.
Speaker 1 (02:15:01):
It was a thing of beauty.
Speaker 12 (02:15:03):
And my question is this? Am I missing too much?
Our teams still doing it? Is it a thing of
the past? And my two old school? And then a
couple of innings later they had a man on third
and the Cleveland the batter hit it over.
Speaker 1 (02:15:19):
He did get it over all.
Speaker 13 (02:15:20):
He's trying to get it through the right the right
side hole, but Altove did scoop it up and throw
them out at the plate. And I'm thinking to myself, man,
it would have been worth another cold one just to
see a squeeze at that point. I mean, that might
have been asking too much, but I mean it's a
thing of beauty to see both two innings in a
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row they moved a guy over both in scoring position
and two of the best bunts I have ever seen.
Speaker 1 (02:15:49):
The catcher had to go out and look and said, now,
I ain't got a chance.
Speaker 9 (02:15:52):
He slew over the first.
Speaker 12 (02:15:53):
But our teams still doing it?
Speaker 1 (02:15:55):
Am I'm missing it? And and is it a thing
of the What do y'all think?
Speaker 12 (02:15:59):
I mean? It's is it any part of the game anymore,
or are they the only team that I've seen this year.
Speaker 7 (02:16:08):
Or do that I appreciate the call logan. I mean
you've brought it up with Sean Casey. He said that
he thought that it's kind of starting to come back.
I asked about it, but I'll trust his judgment. Yeah,
I mean it feels like it's coming back. I think,
what are your old school Probably a lot of us are.
I mean, it's like, if you can move a runner
over and get him in scoring position to win, you
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do it. It's just not emphasizing. Not enough people do it.
Well wow, and that's practicing enough. So it maybe feels
like it. And Dan to validate what I was saying
about pitching, just one little number. You know, we don't
get a lot of complete games in Major League Baseball
anymore today. Right now, the number of starting pitchers on
pace for at least one hundred and sixty two innings
is seventy six in Major League Baseball, which you'd have
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one hundred How many innings was that one hundred and
sixty two innings pitched back in the seventies and eighties,
you'd have that right now? Oh, that's My point is
it but you're starting to see we consider that a
lot now isn't point so pitching is they're going longer,
which means they're having a little bit more success and
appears that managers and pitching coach a little more patient
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to let them work through some stuff. But as far
as small ball, it's never going to be the way
that it used to where Rod krud get thirty hits
a year of Brett.
Speaker 1 (02:17:21):
Butler laying down bunts. Right, But so I get it.
Speaker 8 (02:17:25):
You think, well, it's guys on second, there's no outs,
bun him to third. The problem is they're not working
on it enough to execute it the regular way. So
in that case they just say I'm not taking the
bat out of and certain guys you're never gonna bun him.
But I think that's there and the but this comes
up every year about the bunting and old schoop. People
want to move a guy over, and in a one
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to one game, when there's somebody in second base with
no outs, I would imagine that a lot of these
managers would try to move them over.
Speaker 1 (02:17:51):
The question is do you trust the guy at the
plate to do it?
Speaker 7 (02:17:54):
That's the problem and that's just exactly and you're sitting
here giving up and out most of the time. When
when's the last time you saw a bunt go up
for the astros?
Speaker 8 (02:18:02):
Uh, they don't the execution of it, and if you're
not working it, it's hard. And then all of a
sudden you say, go bunt and you haven't. You you know,
in batting practice, lay one down, lay one down, lay
one down, starts swinging away right then. I mean, you see, guys,
that's just kind of the bats out there are one
last third. Here we go chasing after stuff. It's it's
it's not you know, flat the old school, Hey, flat
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in your bat? Don't you know what all is? Soften
your hands, all those things. It's weird. There's a lot
of there's a lot of it going on to where
I mean a lot of where I'm sure managers question it,
but I don't think you're ever going to see it
and think things go full circle if you have success,
but small ball while a basin, they'd rather take the
chance somebody's gonna put the ball and play with the
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basit with a guy in second. Most of the time
around baseball, then bunt a guy over, and I think
it's a lot that they don't trust that most guys
can get it down. When your leadoff hitter back in
the day or your worse was supposed to be able
to bunt well, nowadays they're flailing away and letting go.
But it's I it feels, and I agree with Sean
Casey that it's starting to, it's inching to.
Speaker 1 (02:19:00):
It's a bit more of it.
Speaker 8 (02:19:01):
We're running more so people are trying to get guys over,
So you're seeing a little more with a bigger basis
and lack of throws the first place, get him over
and trust and pitchers are pitching better this year.
Speaker 1 (02:19:10):
Well on Hunter Brown, I mean his logan pointed out.
Speaker 7 (02:19:12):
I mean, you know, he has a bad outing and
I don't think too many people are gonna get too
upset with him because we would have yearned for the
outings that he's given us this year about a year
or two ago.
Speaker 1 (02:19:21):
But anyway, we could.
Speaker 7 (02:19:22):
Talk that much more with astros GM Dana Brown. He
joins us for his weekly visit next right here on
the Sean Salisbury Show. The seven to ninety listener line
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Speaker 8 (02:19:36):
Dana Brown joins us coming off two in a row,
and they get a chance to get back in the win.
Calm tonight. We'll get there in a second. Dana, welcome in.
We're having this conversation. We had Sean Casey on earlier,
just talking baseball and the overall, you know, part of
the game and what's going on. He had a lot
of good things to say about the Astros, but on
the overall scope, I know, you're focused on your team
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and you're getting it when it comes to pitching, feel
to you look data that pitching is ahead of hitting
eighty ninety games into the season. Does it feel like
pitchers are getting deeper across baseball into games and that
there's more trust in them.
Speaker 9 (02:20:12):
Yeah, well, I think what's happening is, you know, we
have all these specialists, you know, coming out of the bullpen.
You know, of course the starters are pretty good, and
then you know late in the game, you just get
these guys coming out of the pen starting in the
sixth inning, running the ball up to ninety four plus,
and then I think that makes it a little bit
more difficult. You know, usually back in the day, you know,
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the old school guys. Just say, you see a guy
come in and throwing ninety four ninety five, and I
mean that was a big thing. Now you know guys
are throwing ninety four or one hundred and two. You know,
coming in late, it makes it a little bit more difficult.
But I just think the added velocity and the movement
to the pitches, you know, make it a little bit
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more difficult for the hitters and a lot of time data.
Speaker 8 (02:20:58):
By the time you get to the third time around,
you've already made the change to a specialist, so you
don't get to see You'll go, you know, fifth inning guy,
sixth any guy or six seventh, eighth, ninth, So you're
not getting locked in on one guy, which obviously is
pitching advantage, correct, Yeah.
Speaker 9 (02:21:14):
Because what happens is, you know, once you get used
to seeing a guy you know how the ball is
moving back day, and now all of a sudden he's
out of the game and it's like, oh man, I
got to work with this next guy. And you know,
I mean you have some familiarity with you know, looking
at video and different things, but nothing like being in
a box to day of the game.
Speaker 8 (02:21:32):
Dana Can You're pitching and I understand Hunter Brown, who's
been phenomenal. You know, he grinded through six and getting going,
wasn't at his best, but he's still pretty damn good.
Can you, guys, your team sustain this type of pitching
from starting pitching all the way to hater notwithstanding last night,
for the rest of this season? Is it is it
logical to think that way?
Speaker 9 (02:21:54):
Yeah? You know, the thing is we're going to get
some help from some of our guys that are gonna
come off the il right now. Our guys have been
grinding this whole, you know, first half, and you know,
hats off to these guys of you know how they
have pitched, and you know you're gonna have days like that,
you know the old You know you're gonna have days
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like yesterday. You know, It's just it goes with the territory.
It's a grind of one hundred and sixty two and
you're not gonna dominate your opponents every time.
Speaker 8 (02:22:23):
Out, Dana, what is when it comes to the pitching
and sustaining it in injuries or you can even include
the every day guy, the painias and the Jordan Alvarez
who's the first one back from this injury.
Speaker 1 (02:22:37):
To the injury stuff. Is it Penya? Is it Garcia?
Speaker 8 (02:22:39):
Who's gonna be the first one we see of a
regular guy and a pitcher? The guys we know who's
first coming back off the injured list?
Speaker 9 (02:22:47):
Yeah, I mean I would think it's gonna be Jeremy Pinya.
You know, you know, the other guys are probably a
little bit behind Pinya, but I would say probably Pinya
as of today.
Speaker 1 (02:23:01):
Do we know a time frame?
Speaker 9 (02:23:04):
No, we don't have a time frame. But like I mean,
I talked to Pini yesterday. He's feeling really good and
so you know, he's feeling lower body workouts and exercises
to keep him to keep him in shape, but we're
not allowing him to do anything upper body yet. That
may take a few more days.
Speaker 8 (02:23:26):
With Jordan step closer, I mean your reports when we
hear you know, when you're talking to Robert Ford and
the guys over the weekend and coming. So how are
we progressing? Is it quantum leaps? Is it a steady thing?
Where's he at?
Speaker 9 (02:23:38):
Yeah, so he's not hitting yet. The hand is feeling
really good. Of course, we got the good news that
you know with the X rays, and I mean actually
say the imaging. Uh, we got the good news that
you know, there was nothing related to the fracture. It
was inflammation. He got the injection and so he's feeling
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pretty good right now. And I think you know, right
now he can hold the bat, but he can't swing
the bat. We're just you know, you're sitting around watching TV.
You can you can hold the bat in your hand,
just can't swing yet. And so once we get to
the point where you could take some tea work and
then some soft toss and then we could, you know,
hopefully get this thing moving. But we're gonna let him
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heal completely and then we're gonna get him some activity.
Speaker 1 (02:24:25):
Danny, just on pure time, what do we have July?
What ninth today?
Speaker 8 (02:24:29):
Is there any any chance or is it logical for
us to say, okay, expect him in August. If he's
gonna come back, should we expect him in July? Or
is that just just on sheer timing that just can't
work getting him back in the lineup.
Speaker 9 (02:24:43):
Yeah, I mean it's tough to put you know, a
timeline on it because it's gonna be Look, once he
feels good enough, we're going to try to extradite it
as as quickly as possible to get him back, but
it's tough to put a timeline on it right now.
Until we see him swing a bat. He's got to
feel good the following day and things like that, so
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you know it's gonna it's gonna be a waiting game.
But I would I would sense that we would get some.
Speaker 8 (02:25:12):
Deal for the time of it over that week, and
probably I would also imagine that for that this is
going to be when he's one hundred percent and then
he agrees to But when you guys see pictures and
images say he's one hundred percent, that's when he comes
back in when he's feeling good, not at eighty five
or ninety percent.
Speaker 1 (02:25:29):
I would imagine, yeah, we really want.
Speaker 9 (02:25:31):
Him to be one hundred percent. You know, although you know,
once you start hitting all of these players, you know
they rarely feel like they're one hundred percent. But you know,
when you're coming off a long layoff, you probably feel
one hundred percent for about a week and then you
start to get a little bit more tired. But at
the end of the day, you know, we want him
to feel really good, to be able to take consistent
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swings at intense levels back to back days with no soreness.
And once he gets to that point, you know, then
we can cut him loose.
Speaker 8 (02:26:05):
All right, give me your expertise, which is your the
ability to scout talent, which is phenomenal. All Right, we're
sitting around and I haven't watched baseball this year. Let's
just pretend like I haven't, and I ask you about
Yiner diaz scouting report and twenty twenty five at the plate.
Speaker 1 (02:26:22):
What are you saying to me?
Speaker 9 (02:26:25):
Yeah, I would say that Daz just need to shrink
his zone a little bit. Sometimes he gets a little
bit outside the zone. You know. We had a really
nice long talk with him yesterday about you know, the
success that he's had in the past, and you know
that success came from when he really shrunked the zone
and he stayed within that zone. And really his power
(02:26:49):
numbers were really good, you know, when he when he
swung at balls that are in his zone. Now, you know,
pictures are pitching them tough. You know, they get the
book on you and they try to exploit you. And
but Yiner is getting to the point where he's starting
to realize this more and more, and so he's just
you know, he's had some good games and then he's
(02:27:10):
followed up with a not so swift thing. And I
think he's on the right track right now. He's focused
and he knows a lot what the pitchers you're trying
to do to him. And the whole key for him
is stay within the strike zone, because you do your
most damaged when you do that.
Speaker 8 (02:27:26):
Danny, You've got Dana Brown Astros gim for a couple
more minutes here for his weekly visit at nine thirty
on Sports Talk seven ninety Dana big sweep of the Dodgers.
I know the last two haven't turned out the way
you've wanted it, but that's why you got four more
before the All Star break. I on this show have
talked about how you have to stay on guard meeting
the Astros. They've got a nice lead, they're playing really
good baseball, but you can't get into vacation mode the
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week before the All Star Game. You know that it's
human nature. The Cavs, well, it's vacation. Well when I
say vacation all Star break, how difficult is it to
keep players in that mindset?
Speaker 1 (02:27:58):
You got to lead.
Speaker 8 (02:27:59):
You're playing good, You've been some injuries. How tough is
it to six games beforehand to get guys locked in
to almost treat it like it's the last six games
of the season and you're in a battle because these
are important and they do count. Where's the mindset going
into an All Star game for your team?
Speaker 2 (02:28:15):
And overall?
Speaker 1 (02:28:15):
What would you say to them to get them in
that mindset?
Speaker 6 (02:28:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (02:28:19):
Two things. Don't take your foot off the gas and
sprint to the finish line.
Speaker 1 (02:28:24):
Are you guys doing both? Are you doing both right now?
Speaker 9 (02:28:26):
Dan Break?
Speaker 1 (02:28:27):
Yeah? Are you guys doing both? For the six games? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (02:28:30):
I think we're doing both. I mean, we had an
opportunity to win both of those games. And you know,
it was a tough break last night. You know, a
ball that was hit out probably don't go out of
most ballparks, and went out of ours, of course because
of the close crows for boxes. But you know that's
part of the game. You know, you're gonna win some,
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you're gonna lose some, and and and our guys have
been in this grind all year, so I'm not I'm
not worried. I think we do have our foot on
the gas. You know, we were down last night. We
came back, we tied the game, and so these guys
are still grinding, you know, make no mistake about it.
You know we got beat last night, and we got
beat the night before. But you know, the guys are
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still grinding. They have to foot on the gas, and
you know, at the end of the day, you know,
we're going to try to finish this thing and sprint
to the break and then take our little time off,
which is much needed, you know for a team that's
beat up injury wise. But I'm very proud of what
the guys has done. I mean, these guys have grinded
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through all of these injuries. You know, we're eighteen games over,
five hundred, six and a half games up in the division,
and so these guys have really really grinded and I
would say they have their foot on the gas, no
doubt about it, and we're sprinting to the break.
Speaker 8 (02:29:49):
Hey, Dan, it doesn't help, like you're getting ready to tell,
I mean, obviously got Cleveland day, but then you get
the Texas Rangers, who are a four hour away rival.
We know that, you know that when you came here,
you see it. It does it help to keep you straight?
Mindset wise? Uh, that you're playing them the last three
games before the All Star break. It's like, if you
thought about maybe taking a little break, we can't because
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it matters even more so because you want to kick
their ass because it's a rival and they're in the division.
Speaker 9 (02:30:18):
Yeah, nothing better in competition, you know, the good competition
when you're you know, you're trying to get to the
end of a you know, like a break or at
the end of the season. You want to play the
best and you know, I think guys enjoy that competition
and they welcome that competition. And I think our guys,
you know, are locked in, you know, particularly because of
(02:30:39):
the rivalry. So yeah, I think the guys are locked
in for sure. And it's good to have these games
right here towards the end, and we just need to
get the job done and finish up strong. And I'm
proud of what the boys have done. That's first half.
Speaker 8 (02:30:53):
Are are the phones ringing yet? Tae trade trade wise?
Have you have you answered a lot of calls and
dealing with that? And how active will you guys be?
Speaker 9 (02:31:02):
Yeah, I feel we'll try to be active. Of course,
we want to do something that really makes sense for
the club. Uh, you know, we've been in touch with
a lot of teams since mid May, to be honest,
and so we've been, you know, having conversations as to
what we think, you know, we need to do to
make this team better. And so those internal conversations that
(02:31:24):
we we have on daily basis, actually we have them
also during the game when we're in our you know,
the GMS box, and so we're always having conversations about
what we need to do to make the team better.
Speaker 8 (02:31:36):
Uh, you talked about proud and as well you should be.
And I asked you this last week or the week before,
and I'll ask you again. Are where you are now?
What's your biggest in your crawl? What's the one thing
if there is one that's bothering you the most not
named injuries right now?
Speaker 1 (02:31:53):
About your team?
Speaker 9 (02:31:57):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think you know, the offense
was you know a little bit of a conversation, you know,
but we've really started to heat it up and guys
are seeing like a lot better pitches. You know. Do
we have some guys that are turning the corner? You know,
we have Christian Walker who's you know, started to heat up,
(02:32:17):
you know, and so you know a little bit a
few days back. I thought like, look, once this offense
start to get on all cylinders and think about it.
We got on all cylinders, yep, and we went on
a little bit of a run and we increased that lead.
We built a little pad over five hundred and so
we've done a lot of good things, and so you know,
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I just want to finish this first half, you know,
and continue to swing the bats, and you know, some
good things could happen because our pitching has been really good.
They'd been carrying us, you know, and in some days
they're not going to have it, you know, like last night,
you know, we didn't have it. But you know, we
we wrote those guys, you know, the whole first half,
(02:32:58):
and you know those I hadn't been in the grind
for us, and so like, we we want to finish
up strong here.
Speaker 1 (02:33:04):
What were you okay, and I know Jill makes these decisions.
Were you okay with the extra work for Hater coming
back out?
Speaker 10 (02:33:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (02:33:12):
I mean we were one pitch away from getting out
of that inning, you know, of course, and so I
felt like if we got one more opportunity to come
in and get our offense back in there with a
tie game, that we could have scratched to run across,
and so you know, I was definitely okay with that.
Probably gonna shut Hater down for the night. I would
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think that he may not be able to pitch to
night or not be available because we went with you know,
we tried to grind that that went out and get
them a little extra, but it didn't work out. But
I was definitely okay with that decision for sure.
Speaker 8 (02:33:49):
And Dana, just to validate what you said, the home
run last night, the Grand Slam would have only been
out of one ballpark and that was the one that
they were playing last night. So just so you know
that it's not exactly like it was roped into the
upper tank. So you were exactly right about that with
the with the home run.
Speaker 9 (02:34:04):
Yeah, I mean that's kind of like how it is.
You know, we we we're the beneficiaries of that oftentimes
because we play eighty one games often, you know, because
we play eighty one games here. But you know, sometimes
it's gonna it's gonna come back to get you as well.
But you know, we understand that going in. I mean,
our guys understand it, and uh, you know, we're gonna
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win a lot of ball games because of it, and
we'll just lose a couple. So it goes with the territory.
Speaker 8 (02:34:30):
It's been a hell of a run the first half.
We look forward to the rest of this one and
then uh coming back out of the All Star break.
Always appreciate your time, my friend, and uh, we'll talk
to you next Wednesday.
Speaker 9 (02:34:40):
Absolutely. Look, I'm fired up. The team's playing well, we're
gonna get these last four games. Let's grind through them
and let's go ask so fans where.
Speaker 1 (02:34:49):
We're heating up there you go, Dana, We appreciate it.
We'll talk to you next week. That's uh.
Speaker 8 (02:34:54):
That's Dana Brown always for his weekly visit and bringing
it and thinks that pain you will be the first
one we'll come back and discuss if we wrap this
up quickly when we come back here on Sports Talk seven.
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Sean just to react for about a minute or so
to what we heard from Dana Brown. Expect Jeremy Pania
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that have been injured, that you will hopefully get back
here sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1 (02:35:25):
And still wait and see on ord On.
Speaker 8 (02:35:27):
Yeah, what I like to It tells me that if
jord On he's still not swinging a bat like we said,
I think about it. I don't think you're seeing him.
Tell August if you do. Secondly, I was, I don't
know if encourage is the right word, but you can
tell they're all in because it sounded to me that
the trade deadline is going to be active because they
want to improve an already good team that's eighteen games
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over five hundred important.
Speaker 1 (02:35:51):
So I would expect something.
Speaker 8 (02:35:53):
The question is what kind of Is it a wow
factor move or is it a fit in factor move
that we just need some depth in certain places?
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Work on the phone since mid May, according to Dana Brown,
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Speaker 5 (00:23):
Here's the one too her strike three on the outside corner,
right at the top of the zone. Diner ds caught looking.
That'll do it for the Astros. No runs, two hits,
two men left. We'll go to the fourth inning. Here's
the two to two to Tremail, and that is strike three.
Fastball on the outside corner. Tremail down on strikes. He
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wasn't happy with the call, and that'll do it for
the Astros. Seven strike ass. Now for Kintillo, here's the one.
Two's Hummel ready's himself. Here's the pitch, got it, strike three,
the fastball at ninety nine miles per hour, and Humble
goes down on rights. The Astro Strano pair after a
couple of walks, we'll go to the eighth.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Inny ready for a three to two pitch from Junas.
Here it comes and that is strike three. Call a
fastball on the outside quarter, locked up short and the
site is retired. So we go to extra innings. After
nine Astros six Guardian six won one, and Martinez lifts
it to left and pretty deep. It sends back humble
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against the out of town scoreboard and it is gone.
A Grand Slam for on Hell Martinez and of the
first row of the Lantrys proffered boxes, and Cleveland has
a ten to six lead, and folks at Dyke and
Parker heading for the exits.
Speaker 7 (01:42):
Well, they didn't miss much when it was all said
and done, because that's where the game finished up last night.
And with that we say away we go in good
morning here on the Sean Salisbury show that on Hell
Martinez go ahead, Grand Slam happening in the tenth you
and Robert Ford just tell you right there, one one, Sean,
not one of thirty, one of one, that that ballpark
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goes out, or that ball goes out last night in
the ball not even.
Speaker 8 (02:07):
Out of Fenway with them, it drops down over the monster,
the only one in a right field maybe Yankee Stadium
and fenwaf is by the pesky polo than that, but
just enough, you know what I'm saying. Two weeks from now,
and I say, man, you barely got that what it was.
It's a Grand Slam home run. And then and and
nobody's put an asterisk by it, right, And I guess
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I got to stand up and never throw something out there.
It was not manifestation, but it was like, Okay, it's
gonna happen. How you're going to react, because yesterday you
were talking about that some people like when Oakert or somebody,
or Gusto or somebody has one of those days, just
a bad pitch after all they've done, and we're like,
oh my gosh, what's he doing? And you know, beat
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him down after what this bullpen's done. And I said yesterday, well,
at some point it's going to happen to Josh Hater,
he's been perfect. This is also I mean, he's gonna
to blow a save or have an opportunity to wait,
it's it's gonna happen. I just didn't know what was
gonna happen last night. And the question that will be asked,
would you run him out there again? I mean would
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you would you? Would you have given him the extra
what two thirds is what basically end up happening two
thirds of an inning and then you know you uh
so bucking up an inning and two thirds and would
you have brought him out? But here's your all star closer,
you count on it. That's not an optics or that's
not an analytics move. That's just a joe a spot
of field move.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
I believe I would think it's it's not liking the
results right, like I can deal. You don't have to
give me an explanation, like I get why you have
Josh haderback out there.
Speaker 8 (03:40):
I agree that's it, but somebody's gonna ask, and there's
people out there that gonna question it, and you and
I both know it. But that's not one of those
because unless you look at it and so well, haters
dominated the next three hitters in the order in the
tent right, put a go on second that he's that
the analytics tell you that these three guys in order,
or the leadoff hitter doesn't hit him well, right, or
it's just sometimes these guys go with the feel over
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the best closer in baseball this year. And I got
a pitch, barely hit it out Grand Slam, and you know,
being down what three is getting up with in a
fourth Indy and six to one and battling back. I
love the resilience, which has been who they are, but
they got to one. They couldn't. Now I've told you, Dan,
I'm not saying that they are cognizant of casual, but
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I told you how much I do not like Casual.
If they in your mind, please don't check out before
the All Star break.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Don't do it.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
You got for your fortunate the Yankee said, I think
three home runs last night and beat the Mariners. So
it's a good thing, but another opportunity to extend the lead.
So for me in the division, I get it. But
that's why I was adamant yesterday and still am about.
Put your pedal to treat this as if now you're
down two to one in a seven game series and
you got what four games to go?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
One more against Cleveland? What three? Is it? Three? Is it?
Four gigs?
Speaker 9 (04:57):
Right?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
They're off Thursday?
Speaker 8 (04:58):
Correct, Yeah, they'd they play Friday Saturday, So they got
four games total before they break for the All Star Break.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Treat it like you got to win.
Speaker 8 (05:09):
All four of them, or at least you know you
do know do of of the five with the four
left that would it was six games here, So treat
it as if you have to sweep the series to
win a seven game er, even though it's only six games.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You get my point. I'm talking about the mindset, right.
Speaker 8 (05:24):
So I just don't get casual, because what happens if
the if the Mariners do go on a win four straight,
you know, and they were playing good teams, but hell,
the Ases went on the road and took care of
five or six of Colorado two or three. Yeah, but
then they swept the Dodger, so it's k they're capable.
My point is, I don't think they've checked out. You
saw the lineup was pretty adept yesterday, and Cam Smith
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continues to hit, and and so does Al two V
keep that rolling, but the All Star breaks for rest.
I just hope that mentally there's not the and Hunter
Brown wasn't as sharp as normal yesterday, so you have
to prepare for See, we can't keep counting on Hunter
Browns can go out there and sh you down and
give up one run on three hits and give you
seven or six or seven innings and you're gonna score
three and still win. And I know their mindset is
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right because they've done it enough times to prove it.
But there is this feeling and I the human natures.
I said, yes, it does kick into all of us
and you've got to guard I've been with coaches a
million times say don't have the golf clubs in your
trunk just yet for the time off or the bye week.
We got a game to play going into the bye week,
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which may end up being the difference in the season.
So and then coming out of it, you've got to
refocus your mind. When they come out of the All
Star break Western ready to go. You can't take a
week to get going. This is and I know it well, Sean, Yeah,
you gets a long stay. No, we're no longer in
a long season. Now you're in the seventy game range now,
so I just listen, you're gonna get beat. But in truth,
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this team was on the Cleveland Guardians were in a
ten game losing streak, and they've now waltzed into your
building and given you what you gave the dogs. How
many runs they score in the first.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
Game series talking about the Astros, No, Cleveland, oh seven?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And how many they score last night? Ten?
Speaker 8 (07:07):
That's seventeen runs in two games. And we made a
huge deal over twenty nine to six with the Astros.
So if they get a if they throw a seven
spot on you today, that's in the twenties and three games,
which is unlike this pitching staff. So when you consistently
rely on the pitchers, happen to dominate, and then you
don't get a dominating performance from your ace one of
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the two of them.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Here's what happens. And so here you are listen.
Speaker 8 (07:33):
It's two games, I get it, but two losses at
home against the team that had won in a hand
in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
They were down ten straight.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
So I just for me, I know that they're not
checked out, but they're just don't get casual. You gotta
stay alert, and you got to treat these four games
like that. The end of the season, they're gonna matter
short of having from bra Valdez throw one hundred.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And twenty pitches, like I said yesterday, But if they
are healthy, run your best people out there.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
You have to all star breaks for rest, not now,
and it can't be you can't check out and get
mental rest just yet.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
You just can't.
Speaker 8 (08:10):
But it tells me a little bit when when they're
what a fourth inning at six to one and then
they fight their way back, that they aren't checked out.
But it just can't get casual and get down early
and I'm sure it's kind of deflating when you're ace
a guy who's an All Star. You're down six to
one and he's not and he's not playing his best
but grinding to get to six innings and do all that.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It's like, okay, now, how are we going to respond?
Speaker 8 (08:33):
Well, Cleveland responded a little better and got the clutch
hit when it mattered in the tenth inning, albeit a
cheapy home run, but it's still it's not too cheap
if it lands in the seats. So just I'm guarding
against it, and I would say, you can't. You've got
to go out this with intensity, and if I don't
believe in clubhouse meetings, but I would address him saying
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that let's make sure we finish these four up like
this is the last, Like these four games are going
to make a difference in that we're chasing a team
down a game and we got to win four straight
to win the division. Well, Sean, that's premoum. No, it
actually isn't, because we've seen it come down to that,
and you never know when that one or two games
in game seventy four, game ninety eight is really going
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to matter.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You're gonna lose a bunch of but man, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (09:23):
You have to know that the Rangers and the Seattle
managers are going to go through streaks where they're dominant
as well, and so I just I know I'm making
a big deal over this the last yesterday and today,
but I really am because I've seen it. I've been
on teams. I'm just telling you Baseball and football little different.
But the part of going into a bye week and
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coming out that I've been on teams that the week
of practice it was Flop Richard week, where it's like,
hey man, we're just going to kind of go out
there and go through it and hope that on Sunday.
If you're hoping on Sunday, you're prepared your bad idea.
If you're know it on Sundays, you're prepared. Before you
go into a bye week. You'll come out. You may
not win, but at least you'll know that, Okay, we
did our thing. Now we got to come out of it.
We've got to make sure we're ready when we come
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out of the bye week. You should enjoy your time
off and the rest of it. But guess what, there
are still four games are you getting paid and you
have to approach it in intensity. I don't care if
you're down three to one, you don't start moving bodies out.
You get them in there and they go play and
do it. That's just my opinion, and I think my
opinion may be indifferent for others. But I don't treat
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this as it's not country club week nd take the
country club time off to go play golf if you
want to next Monday, if you're not an All Star,
or Sunday, or be with your family, not now. And
this team battled back, but Cleveland was a little more
clutch in the last two games. And now a dominant
pitching staff has given up almost twenty runs in two
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games at home. So you do not you can't let
this because you also don't want doubt to creep in
the second half, because these last two games, you know
what it looks like. It looks like a team that
is injured and that they're pitching staff's average and we
know neither one injured. Yes, but we know there's nothing
average about this team right now. But I love the
resilience to fight back. And yes, it's just two games,
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but yes it's just four games. Yes, it's just six games.
I'm just for me. You have to stay alert and
on guard and defend these next four games as if
these four games are going to make a difference in
whether you win or lose the division. I don't think
you can treat it like, oh, we've got we've got
room to spare. At the end of the year, we'll
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have that conversation.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Not now.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Two for twenty one last night with runners in scoring position,
and you leave more than eleven, at least at the
time it was twelve. You leave twelve runners on base
last night, and those two for twenty one, both of
them were jose L Twov. Everybody else was over for nineteen.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
So with that in mind, and I mean this with
all affection and caring, this team, with all that's gone on,
is not good enough to go for two for twenty
one with did you say two for twenty one? Two
for twenty one with runners in scoring position? Very few
teams healthy are and we we they probably overachieved in
certain cases, but that's overachieving is a good thing. That's
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just called preparation and being into it. But you don't
want to get to the point that while you're overachieving,
that you start to believe that you were an overachieve
and all of a sudden, it's when a streak of
you know, when you're not doing the things you need
to do hits. Then all of a sudden you start
to buy and oh, is this who they were supposed
to be coming out of spring? It's catching up to them.
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You don't want that to you. You don't want that
to linger. And it doesn't matter what everybody else is,
but you don't want it to be part of what
you're feeling, that it's going to catch up to you,
that oh, this is who they are, this is the teammates,
all these injuries, the pitching staff can't sustain this.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Today's game to me is what's the night game tonight? Right?
What's day Wednesday? Wednesday? Right?
Speaker 8 (12:49):
Thenight's game is I think hugely important I do in
the big scheme of things I do just to start
feeling good. And then you've got a rival that you
should treat it like you can't stand them. You should
So it's a loss. Like I said, always say you're
gonna lose sixty to seventy of them every year. But
I'd sure not like to get into this where all
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this hot, great baseball. Then he all of a sudden
got to come out of the All Star break wonder
and I just don't want desperation. Two games isn't desperation
going one in five they'll be there will be people
will start through that indecision and indecisive stuff starts to
creep in. It's only human nature for competitive athletes got
to stay away from that. They have got to stay
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on guard these next four games.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Well, you also don't want to give anybody hope. I mean,
the Rangers win last night, they're now ten games back
of you. I mean you mentioned it. The Mariners lose,
that's good, but you know that Ranger series you as
you even mentioned right there, you fool around and find out, well,
then all of a sudden it's under ten and it
heads into the second half, and all of a sudden,
you've given them life.
Speaker 8 (13:51):
So you see, Well, I don't recommend it. What happens
if they sweep you. If you did the Dodgers and
they win. Let's say the Rangers win today and you
get swept by clear you get swept into two series,
which is hard to do. But let's just say they did.
For the hell of it. Now it's at six games. Yeah,
now it's in six games, and you're going to see
him again and all. And then you come out of it,
You get all that, and it starts to fester. And
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then you go one and two in your first series
coming out of it, and they go three and oh
and they're on a roll. And now it's at four games.
Now who's desperate?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Right? And that's in what a two week period? You
saw it last year in reverse?
Speaker 9 (14:26):
So you.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Twelve and twenty four? Done? Win the division?
Speaker 9 (14:33):
Yea?
Speaker 8 (14:33):
So well's I know it's two games, but I do
make a big deal on all games. If they're on
the schedule and you got to play them, did they matter?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Don't get the job done. That's exactly right. Just get
the job done.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
This looked like a team that we these last two
games have looked like a team that we're not you seeing.
What we are you seeing is the resilience of them
battling back. But you cannot let this fester. I'm just
telling you. You go one and five in this series,
I'm going to tell you what it's going to start
to change the thought process, not only the Nashville but
how this division's gonna look.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
Yeah, all that work you just did, you're pretty much
gonna be giving it back.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
And why because if you don't want to get a
little too Oh, it's the All Star break.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
We're good. I'll take this time.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
We'll come back out of this smoking your hunts about
You can't rely on that stuff. You got to rely
on it. Like if you don't win these games, you're
missing out. Let it rip man. I'm a big believer
in it.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Big.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Yeah, Well, you're gonna get back guy again the night.
Brandon Walter are gonna be on the mound and we
will talk about that, talk about the hitting struggles.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And Sean Casey.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
MLB Network, he's gonna join us here in about forty
five minutes, and Dana Brown for his weekly visit here
in nine point thirty every single Wednesday on the Sean
Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
But coming up. Don't mean to put it on one guy,
but it kind of is about him. We'll talk about
it right here.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
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Speaker 7 (16:00):
Gotta believe one of the things you're going to talk
about with Dana Brown is a constant. Is a constant
name mentioned here for not great reasons. Jiner Dia is
where I mean Sean, as I said last night, at
least a couple of different times, one of them right now.
It continues to show you, I don't care about your injuries,
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any of those things. You cannot bat him higher than fifth.
I mean, it just continues to get into the next
weee where it's he continuously takes one step forward, two
steps back. This season and last night another example of
that front foot swings, still chasing that outside slider, strikes
out twice, goes zero for four.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
And I mean, we're talking about guys that you need
to be able to step up right now. He's one
of those guys that you need to be able to
step up right now.
Speaker 8 (16:47):
So what are you saying that tells you that he's
close or far off?
Speaker 7 (16:52):
I thought he was close from what we saw in
LA with those couple of home runs. I was like, Okay,
he's starting to see it a little bit. But no,
he's still out in front and he's still doing the
yolo swings of I don't really care of this is
I'm swinging at it Tabby baias like almost.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
Yeah, who's having a pretty good year this year too,
is a good friend but finally earning the money.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, yeah, it's about time, right.
Speaker 9 (17:17):
I just.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Sometimes and I'm sitting here trying to figure out is
just is it as simple as a move down in
the order. Is it a he gathered success? You know,
he started to work success and be one of those
guys you say, it's the middle of the lineup, ba
you know, a guy that we're plugging in the middle
of the lineup.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Has it?
Speaker 8 (17:36):
Is it just as simple as he's gotten too loose
with his swing or focused or is defense coming into
play because he needed all the you know people running
on that.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
I'm just trying to figure out his one effect in
the other is his ability to want to hit for power,
which he has getting him to chase you know who
We've seen this. You know it looks like at times
when he's going through it, when he've been going through
a bat and he's got it adjusted this year, but
he's hurt now. Is the way Peanya you know, at
times early in his career and for years one and two,
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at times chasing balls that were non competitive pitches and
that's what's bothering you now right. Yeah, So what's the answer.
How do you during a season? How do you fix it?
Just just get one at bat? That's good because he
has been he's gotten better and in LA he did.
Could it just be as simple as it's just been
two games where he's you know where you know, and
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last night where he struggled to do his thing and
then come back and get three.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
If he gets three hits today, are you satisfied it
at least would be a positive step forward? As I mentioned,
one step forward, two steps back?
Speaker 8 (18:41):
Is it hyperbolic for you to be I'm just going
with yesterday and I love I know where you're going
with this, and I get it. But yesterday you talk about,
you know, the bullpen having one bad go and everybody,
you know, we got to get rid of what's going on?
Why are we pitching this guy? But is the reason
you not treating yanor the same way as you said?
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Then it's one game?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Is it? Because this has been a consistent problem in
twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Why is that one game?
Speaker 9 (19:07):
You do?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Said?
Speaker 8 (19:08):
It's just the picture was better than him last night.
That's how you'd have felt. But because you've seen flashes
of this, the up and down dal Joneser this year,
gives you cause for concern that it's to it creeps
back into what the hell's he doing?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Is that? Is that kind of where you're at.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Well, it's only just that, it's also you're a def
you're your defensively deficient catcher. Yeah, he hear that he's
not in camp bat to forty two and be in
the middle.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
Of my order right lineup, yes, middle of the order, no, right, yeah,
and hope that he sees different pitches in it. You know,
oh he's down in there. But his reputation now is
going to be that the people know that this is
a young budding star.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Right. But you're exactly right.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
If you're gonna be a great defensive catcher, well think
about who we compare him to on this team in
a different way, although he's a better hitter. Is the
way it's going now is with Jake Myers. Jake Myers
Steve Sparks are old glove centerfielder type. If he it's
two twenty or two hundred, I don't care, right, And
I mean, because you know at least what you're getting
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on the other that's exactly right with this. If you're
a gold glove catcher and playing like Pud Rodriguez, we're
going to cut you a little more slack, is what
you're saying. Absolutely, if not, if I'm putting you in
the middle lineup in your defensively, you're not, wouldn't say
you're a plus, You're you're you're an average defensive catcher. Right,
He just is, and he's still learning, and there's potentially yes,
I'm trying to be kind and then on them talk
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about the overall defensive package, right, and then on the
offensive side, potential to be great. But the potential and
production are two different words, right, And if you're hitting
two ninety, I cut you a little slack defensively. If
you're playing gold glove defense and you're hitting two twenty,
we give you a little bit of a hall pass
because you're still doing the thing. In this stage with
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the way the pitching, I'd sure love him to be
a great defensive catcher. But on the other side of it,
with all the you need is bat rolling right you
you you he the responsibility and the ability to respond
to this knowing pain is not in the lineup, do
you're using a bunch of different players. He has to
be the next level of him is to be able
to carry a team on his back for a minute.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Right.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Well, I mean, in at least a couple of different
times last night, it comes back to hurt you. I
mean Ramirez earlier on in the game, the timing of
them too bothered. Right, Yeah, I mean two of the
runs that scored at least one of one more of
the runs that scored there to make it five to one,
Ramirez stole second base and he almost looked back and
I think he even had a smirk on his face
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like that was easy, like that that's whatsoever? Right, I mean,
he went in standing at that point. That shouldn't happen
in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
No, not in the middle of a game where unless
it was fourteen to one, he like, we're up for
to let him still.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And sometimes it's on the pitcher. I get that.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
And they've talked about trying to be able to hold
guys on do all those different things which we saw
on intentional ball last night, which I don't think I've
ever seen. But where I mean, you know, you've got
to give your catcher a chance, and I mean he
wouldn't have had a shot on that.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
But at the same time though too, I mean the
fact that that even creeps into the minds of opposing
dugouts is saying, we can go pretty much whenever we want.
This guy ain't gonna throw us.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
Out shooting fish in a barrel, Bud, you know what
I mean. You have a shot fish in a barrel?
Never have it seems pretty easy, It's pretty easy. There
you go, and I get it. I'm going to tell
you just to just I think he's too good of
a hitter to make this a season long. And I
have seen flashes and I know you have to, but
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I'm with you. It's at times like this and so
we are on the same page, just a different route
to get there, of the understanding the moment and understanding
where you are and also understanding I don't care that
what's he in his third year starting now where he's
been the regular right that there is a responsibility that
comes up with it.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Do you have to deliver?
Speaker 8 (22:52):
We'll see it goes because when this thing rolls along,
two things I know are going to have to happen.
When you run into Dodgers in a World Series, or Philadelphia
or a Yankee team that's healthy and playing well, or
a Cleveland, a Detroit team that can pitch, and they'll
put them.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
All in play too. Scrappy as well and well managed?
Speaker 8 (23:12):
Is the yordas is gonna have to be a matter
of fact as you go through this, how can we
not say when you combine defense and offense what you're
gonna need because you're going to run into teams that
hit better than you and teams that have the ability
to pitch like you. As you get closer Yaner Diaz
can't be a oh back to the hope and no,
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can't be a hope guy. You're gonna have to have
him contribute consistently and go on one of those heaters.
And unfortunately his heaters have not lasted long and the
the in between the struggles have lasted a tad bit longer,
and Walker is going to have to continue his getting bad.
They are those are two of your three guys in
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truth three four five? Who's who is going to be
the original three four five in the order? Jordan Walker
and Diaz? How much production on the offensive side?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Have you got it?
Speaker 9 (24:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (24:08):
We saw Walkers go up. How much production have you
got out of those three guys for a team that's
eighteen games over five hundred?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Is that what it is? Now? How much production you
got from three, four five? Little? None?
Speaker 8 (24:23):
So the question is can't it continue? And my answer
would be, don't count on it. They're gonna have to
pick up the tempo. You're three and four, three four
five hitters can't hit like a normal team's seven, eight
and nine.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
You said it, I mean, I'm a big shelf life
guy and that has a shelf life. And you'll see
as the season carries along, you continue to do that,
like I said, fool around and find out.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Right, and they know the struggle.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
And then there's no guarantee that when Jordan gets back
right off the bat, we don't know who I mean,
the history tells us that he's gonna rake at some point.
You got to play that right soon enough, right, there
is no guarantee that he's going to come out and
be the second half MVP. We may not get him
for the whole second half, and my gut tells me
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you're not. So that the onus and once again falls
on if three is not there and four and five
are struggling and when three was in there he was struggling.
That's a lot of pressure to put on a pitching
staff in your seven eight nine hitters, and then you're
asking out to Van payn you when he's healthy, load
him up and paradus well. At this stage of the game,
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those three four five hitters may not be those names, right.
It may be I'll two va Paratus and somebody else
hitting three four five and with paying your leading off
when he gets back. So there's work to do and
three four five for them to win where they want
to go. I don't care what anybody' said how good
they've been that those that part of the lineup is
going to have to play like a three four five.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Do well seven eight nine last night was five for
fifteen four years, So there's something there.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Does that not validate what we're saying? Right there? You go? Now,
well that's not nothing, as I like to say.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
All right, even though it didn't look great, still a
positive to be taken from last night with this guy.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
We'll talk about it right here.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
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Speaker 7 (27:13):
The seven ninety listener line in the six o'clock hour
is brought to you by one eight hundred car cash
for Hunter Brown. He does give you six innings, but
he also gives up six earned runs and walks three
in the effort. But the good news of it was
that he gives up the early run there in the
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first and then there are actually two runs in the
first because the Jose Ramirez to run Homer.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
To get the night started.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
He's pretty good, He's not bad, and the Astros finally
realized soon enough, hey stop pitching to him, like right now,
like this guy's on a heater against us.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And then also two, what's up Brian Rochio? Like who
are you? Who is this guy?
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Like the just deciding I'm gonna go Zach Short against
the Dodgers against you guys.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I call him Almond? Do you get it? I don't
Almond Rocca? You ever had that? You ever had that? Candy?
Oh man? Okay?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Joy?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah? Well allmon Joy mounds has what is it? Almon
Joy has nuts? Mounds? Don't do you do you like
like a nuts? Sometimes you don't say it again, sometimes
you feel like a nuts. Sometimes you don't what what
kind of nut? Almond Joy?
Speaker 9 (28:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
But right a little coconut in there team there. I
feel like it was kind of forced.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
Well it wasn't even just forced, It was kind of
I didn't really want to say it, did you kind
of kind of stumbled my way into it.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, it was it was I knew you were running.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Anytime the word nuts comes up, you got to start
to think about how you can crow bars. You know
you want to be king crowbar in right. Uh so,
now I lost my train of thought. What were we
talking about? Yeah, so that that didn't hit for you either,
because you don't know what Almond Roka is let people.
So he went short on you right in the Dodger series.
(29:02):
But the key is is that if and you're right,
you can't get that guy out, meaning Ramiro, So just
put him on base anyway? Is that what you're saying
the way you go, he's a But if.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You walk him.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
If every team that played Ramirez because he went out
a heater, decided to put him on, guess what, You're
gonna have three hundred walks during the year because a
guy gets on a heater on a regular base.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
But he is going good.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
And I think that I like the match up. Anytime
Hunter Browns facing anybody right now, especially early. It's like
advantage pitcher. But Ramire is pretty good. And how many
hits now is that the Rokio have in the series? Well,
he had three last night. Yeah, I don't know how
many had in game one is my point? Yeah, and
then he had the years all over it. Yeah, he
had the go ahead double in game one. It's a
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batting under two hundred on the season, Like, come on,
he's got bat an under two hundred in the series,
punching Judy and you're trying to go ahead and decide
and punch and Judy. Yeah, and you want to go
ahead and decide that you're you're a major league ballplayer
in this series. One for two on Monday nights. So
four hits in two games, not a roll. And like
you said, Ramirez is too. But what were you say
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you teased? Was it Hunter Brown that you were saying
that's the positive that you saw out of this even
though it was a slow start.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
Well, because I mean I did say that he was
going to have to eat it, and he did, and
I mean he was at least able to give them
a chance. I mean, despite the montage we played to
start off the show where you're down five to one,
you don't score, You're down six to one, you don't score,
and then finally Jose al Tuove decides, you know what, Hey,
that clutch gene thing, I've got it.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I know how to use it.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
The gene you want to put in somebody else in
the I das part of it right now? You'd like
to borrow some of that, I get it, man, I
get it.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
Trade in one of those Victor Karaccini Grand slams for
that foul pop we had last night when you had
a chance to be able to tie the game.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
And Dan Monday, we were discussing astros right about them
and dealing with this I'm talking about Monday morning, about
how you deal with Cleveland. A team has lost ten
in a row, and we discussed this is a team
that always when Tito was there, Francona, this is a
team that just even though they lost ten a row,
they know they they make you work to win. Does
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that make sense? They'll grind you through it. And there's
too many good players for them to lose ten in
a row.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
It really is.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
They're well, they're not. I don't think a World Series
threat by any means overachieved some last year but they've
got some good players and when they're healthy, they can
they can pitch a little bit too. And you know,
when you get to the back end of the bullpen,
they feel about as confident as we do here. Clause
is going to take you and get people out. So
you knew that they were going to scrap around. I
can tell you this. They're not rolling that. They didn't
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go into this thinking we'll be casle before the alstar Bak.
They went in the sense of urgency. We've lost ten
in a row. We don't want it to be thirteen
in a row and then sixteen in a row before
Sunday when we play a second series whoever it is
they're playing after they leave here. So yeah, it's the
clutch hitting and two for twenty one runners in scoring
position probably not going to win ale a whole lot
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of games unless your ace has a dominant performance. And
he had to fight his way through, and kudos to
him for battling to get to six right and get
through it. So it just was one of those days.
But they didn't get the clutch hit and Cleveland did,
and you mintioned Almin Rokio, I mean really good, and
Ramirez is always he gets them started, and this team's
always good, meaning the Astros when they're the ones who
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punch first, and Cleveland punched first last night and put
themselves out in front. And once again we talked about
six to one lead right in the fourth inning. How
many times have we talked about when you have a
six to one lead instead of a two to one lead,
it puts a lot less stress on your pitching staff
and on everybody. They go in six to one of
a relentless effort to get back in and tie it.
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But then the Grand Slam homer that barely creeped out.
So they've battled back with their bats last night. But
when you have a six to one cushion, if you're Cleveland,
you can afford a two run job by the other
team and still have it. So they've come in here
and taken care of their business. And a team that's
lost ten in a row, I personally it's not acceptable
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to get swept in this series, and I think the
Astros probably know that.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
By the way, they're twenty seven and eighteen against teams
under five hundred this year. You were twenty six and
six or twenty seven and sixteen coming into this series.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
And listen, still impressive record. I can tell you what
you don't want to be twenty seven and nineteen. Go
take care of it today. And I'm sure Dana Brown
says their focus and we'll talk to him about it.
But it just and it is long grind of a season.
But the long grind of the season also tests the
metal of do you play well when it's a you know,
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all star break and checkout time so you can get
a get your mind and your body relaxed. But checkout
times not till Sunday. Dan, It's not Thursday. It's not Wednesday,
and it sure as hell wasn't Monday or Tuesday. They've
got to get back into this winning thing. And you
know what, you can still salvage it. You're losing this series,
but we said, just win the series, which is win
four out of six and you'll be good to go.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Well, it's also too it's nice to have a familiar
face back in the building and they were able to
contribute in a meaningful way last night. Talk about them
before we get to Sean Casey top of hour two.
Right here, getting going Western Wednesday, Sewn Salisbury Show, Sports
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Speaker 4 (35:45):
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Speaker 8 (35:53):
Those that are the grinding the hour after hour, God
bless you. And for those families, you know, we try
to get them all the you know, words of encouragement
you can and prayers, but you know, I just hope
that somehow, some way they find understanding, you know what
I mean, and we'll find some miracles here as they
continue to search.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
I've been talking with a good buddy of Money's a
game warden, and pretty much every single game warden has
been called to Kerrville, and his point was, he's like,
you know, we're the first ones usually on the scene,
with the last ones to go, you know, in situations
like this, just because of you know, it's really all
hands on deck at that point. But you know him
and I mean, you know, I heard Michael Barry mentioned this,
(36:35):
and it's so true. I mean with Camp Mystic, I
mean I remember hearing about it all my life, knowing
girls that went there, people from.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Far and wide go to that camp for years, right right, Yeah,
it's uh, I know, man, it's uh, it's sure. Like
I said before, the summertime will always be different for
those families.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Now makes the fourth largest city in the country feel
a lot smaller too, I mean, just because you know,
it's somebody's got a connection somewhere, somebody knows somebody, somebody's
got a cousin, whoever it is.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I mean, it's just it's it's tough all the way around.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
But the Astros are hoping to be able to turn
around from a tough last two game stretch and a
guy who's helped out though in those two games. About
Hector Narris coming back in and picking up right where
he left off, hect Naris. You love yourself some Hector Narris.
Speaker 8 (37:31):
He's been he's he kind of found himself a pretty
damn good following here and and did himself right, didn't he.
I'm a big fan of one of the the party
float guys because he was one of the party float
guys yep in twenty twenty two when the Astros won
the World Series. Him fromber trying to think who else
was on that party float. Maybe it was Javier I
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think was there.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
But the guy's got the big speaker, they got the
beers going, they were feeling good that day, and you know,
it's just one of those things that certain guys just
feel comfortable in certain jerseys. Hector and Ares loves him
putting on an Astros and he sure does. He seemingly
when he does that, he says, all right, I know
how to get people out again.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (38:09):
And he has been here, he's been really productive, and
you're exactly right. You never know what it is. It
sparks somebody, they keep, they go back and they just
have success. And once again, maybe it's simply the culture
in the building is when you come here, we do different.
And the two losses are a bummer, but there are
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silver linings and all of it. And another one is
the way cam Smith continues to play all two vased
bats getting hot. Just need some of his friends to
come along and be as consistent. There you go and
get healthy. It's gonna matter. We all know that.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
No, it's absolutely going to matter.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
And I mean he comes in last night, gives you
a scoreless ending of relief, Steven Okert an ending of
scoreless relief before that, because you know the night before
he got people all, come on, man, you can't give
up a two run double here.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
It's like, do you know how good the guy's been
this year? Like he's le let's not get on the.
Speaker 7 (38:59):
Middle of the Bullpenn guys, because those guys have been
carrying this team all season long.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
There's no question about it.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
So Dan, at some point, everything's going to have to
hit in the second half of the season, and you
hope it does. When I say I'm not just talking
about the bat where the hitting and the pitching come
together to extendedly because you're gonna go through the hot.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Streaks for everybody.
Speaker 8 (39:18):
But that's why, coming out of getting into this All
Star Break, it would be nice if it was in
that six to eight game range lead and then you
can come out and like I said, desperation. When you
do things out of desperation, they usually don't end well.
And you don't want to be the team that's desperate.
You want the rest of the guys chasing it to
be desperate.
Speaker 7 (39:33):
Keep a good thing going, man, I mean, that's just
really what it comes down to. And you know, try
to be able to finish this thing off these final
four games as best you can, because well, you'd like
to not give the Rangers life, you like to not
give the Mariner's life, anybody life. You want to be
able to have a pretty good stranglehold on this thing,
and that's what the Astros are trying to do.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
Before you go to break real quick, I'll whether to
tease it. Do you know what a court side seat's
going for it? Summer League for Cooper Flagg's debut. I've
heard about this twenty five hundred dollars due.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
For a summer.
Speaker 8 (40:04):
League basketball game where you're not gonna what are you
gonna get out of him? Twenty minutes? I wouldn't say
the first PICKO draft. You're not going to give him
thirty eight minutes in a summer league game. A sucker
is born every day twenty five hundred dollars to watch
his debut court side for summer league basketball.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Maybe I'll see Lebron. I just I don't. I don't
for summer league.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
That would be like saying somebody comes and I don't
know who who, Who's the that loves cam Ward and
decides they want to pay five thousand dollars for a
sideline pass at a preseason game and he's going to
play four snaps.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I'm good.
Speaker 8 (40:42):
Yeah it's weird, but listen, I guess you want to
be the one to say, hey man, I was sitting courtside. Yeah, really,
where where we're at in Dallas?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
No?
Speaker 8 (40:50):
No, no, no, no, in Vegas or wherever they're doing it.
I think it's in the I saw one at University Utah,
so I'm assuming most of it's still in Vegas. But
I saw it, you know, a couple days ago, they're
playing a game at u of U right there, but
twenty five hundred osh for courtse I'd seat to watch
Cooper Flagger.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I can watch him on TV for free. Just give
me the money and I'll give you the other half
for free. How about that. I'm in Royo, all.
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Speaker 7 (42:03):
We talk with MLB Networks Sean Casey courtesy of Gorilla
Glue and Sean want to start it off with an
unpleasant question because as a guy who was also hurt
himself in an exhibition, I got to know, how's the
hammy brother?
Speaker 9 (42:20):
It's not doing well. I had you know, I tore
it off the bone. You know, he was crazy to
cut up playing for the Savannah Bonanzo. You know, obviously
it was a fun time. They got a great thing
going there, but you never expected an exhibition and like,
really get hurt. So I end up tearing. I found
out you have three hammies in each legs. So I
tore two of them off my right hamster, two of
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them off the bone, and I had I had. I
just had a hamstring replace a reattachment surgery like twenty
days ago. So I'm grinding a little bit, but get
a little bit better every day. And you know, it's funny.
I've had six surgeries throughout my twelve year big league career.
This is probably the worst one.
Speaker 8 (42:58):
And it's post career Sean to take us through how well.
I don't even remember how the hamstring happened to you.
I knew it was with the bananas, but was what
did you go apo? And were you trying to leg
out a three bagger? Explain the situation that pulled your hammy?
Speaker 9 (43:12):
Brother, That's the story I wish I could tell you
right now that I hit a rock at the gap
and I was so fast I was getting the third
and next thing, you know, a sniper got me, you
know what I mean. But it turns out I got
a four pitch, a four pitch walk on the On
the fourth pitch, it threw it at my feet and
I had to get out of the way, so it
was a pass ball. And in Savannah Banana rules, if
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you walk a guy, they have to throw it down
and every player has to touch it so you can
keep running. So obviously I'm not there to run, you know,
I mean, sorry, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm. I was there
to hit, and I didn't even think about running, which
which you know, I probably should have stretched a little more.
But I take the umpires like, hey, you got it,
you gotta run ball four. So I start running the first,
which is, you know, an interesting term. I was really
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jogging slow walk probably, So I get the first in
the first base coaches like, go to with the crowd.
You know, I just got announced to fifty thousand people
in Cincinnati. Place is going crazy. Everyone's on their feet,
so the adrenaline history for the first time in years,
and the guys like, go too. So I'm like, oh, yeah,
I'm going too. I go to and my hamstring goes no,
(44:17):
you're not. You're not going too. As a matter of fact,
we're going to blow out for you.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Oh yeah. We has different post career than during, isn't it?
Speaker 9 (44:26):
My man? Oh man? You know it's so funny. I
look at my life and I'm like, I just want
to walk again. I don't I don't need to get
back on the field, and I just want to walk.
You know.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
Right there, you go, different priorities, different life goals as
we move along in life, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Again MLB Networks.
Speaker 7 (44:46):
Sean Casey join us here on the Shawn Salisbury Show,
and we'll also talk with him about trying to repair
broken bats a little bit later on in our conversation.
But Sean, last couple of nights over at Tyking Park
haven't gone well. But I got to believe that you
and most of you all up in Steve Caucus are
pretty impressed with an eighteen game over five hundred Astros team.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 9 (45:09):
I mean really impressed, And I think even for even
for Astro fans, you know, for you guys that look
that are looking at uh, you know, the team when
they got rid of Kyle Tuck or they got rid
of Presley they got rid of Bregman. You know, it's like, man,
what are the Astros doing? Are they rebuilding all?
Speaker 1 (45:25):
You know?
Speaker 9 (45:25):
And then all of a sudden you look at this
year and you know, Framber Valdez is doing is what
he's doing. Hunter Brown has gone to a totally another level.
It's one of the top five pitchers in baseball. You could,
you know, make an argument with that, with how good
he's been the bullpen with Hater and and you know
Bray and all those guys has been so lights out.
And then you know the emergence of Cam Smith of
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what he's done, you know, makes the team out of
spring training and hitting almost three hundred, starting hit for power,
understand the league a little bit. Jeremy Pania all of
a sudden goes this superstar shorts up, you know level,
and you know, guys are just really playing great baseball.
So I know, personally, you know, looking at the landscape
for the Asters this year, I would not have thought
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that right now they would be eighteen games above five
hundred and one of the best games teams in baseball.
But obviously Dana Brown thought differently, and he was right.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (46:17):
Sean Casey joins us say, Sean, I'm going to get
into your mind about the current the players when you
played and now I've said on the show the last
couple of days as you head into the All starwik
I know in my NFL career, heading into a bye
week the week before, when you know you had a
week off, you got to get out of vacation mode.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
It's still business.
Speaker 8 (46:36):
And here with the All Star Game coming, the Astros
just sweep the Dodgers. It would be easy in human
nature to get into with six games to go, is
to kind of get a little casual, not like, is
he just casual? Like all the All Star breaks coming
to get in vacation mode and then you go one
in five and the GAP's closed now to four games.
So for me in your career, is it real? And
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is it hard to guard against that vacation mode when
the All Star breaking rest is right around the corner.
Speaker 9 (47:02):
Seannie, It's a great question because you know you know this,
You know the baseball you play one hundred and sixty
two games, and I think this is where it's a
different animal mentally than in any other sport. Is that
like and you start to see that All Star break,
You're like man, I could go for a couple of
days off. But I think the biggest thing about being
a big leaguer. And I remember Billy Dorrin, who's a
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long time astro back in the day, was my coach
of Cincinnati. He said, hey, listen, Case, go underwater for
six months. He goes, and I'll pull you up and
I'll let you know when the season's over. He's like,
but don't come up for air and stay you're tired,
don't come up for air and say you need a
day off. Don't come up come up for air and
say you're struggling. Just stay down there, stay with your routine,
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stay with your process, stay with your mentality, and when
when a break shows up, I'll let you know. And
I feel like that's the same thing with the All
Star break. It's like, don't even look at the break.
You know, keep your head down until somebody says, hey, man,
the All Star break here breaks here, and then when
you come out of it, you know, back under water.
So that's my thought process. That's what I used to
always think, like, I don't even want to know about it.
Just keep grinding, to keep going. They waited with mentality,
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and you know when when the break shows up, it
shows up.
Speaker 7 (48:12):
Sean, you mentioned Cam Smith and what he's been able
to do so far this season. From what you've seen
of him, what's impressing the most about his game, either
offensively or defensively.
Speaker 9 (48:22):
Well, offensively, I love how he goes the other way.
And I was reading something that was staying I. You know,
my son played in the Cape Cod League a couple
of years ago, and I remember they were playing I think.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
It was Wareham.
Speaker 9 (48:32):
It was Orleans versus Wareham up there in the Cape
and this kid was hit a bomb left center, and
I remember grabbing the program out because something was a
little different. I look and I'm like, man, Cam Smith's
Florida state.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Interesting.
Speaker 9 (48:44):
So I kind of followed him from that day on
and I've been very interested in his career. And I
remember reading an article was saying that once he started
to take his batting practice and go the other way,
his hitting really kind of opened up for him.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
And I'm a big believer in that.
Speaker 9 (48:57):
If you can go the other way with authority, you know,
the game really opens up for you, especially the pole
side on the power opens up for you. And that's
one thing with Cam Smith. When I watched him even
when he got even when he when he broke camp
this year and in the beginning of the season, he
would take those singles the right field, singles the right
field And I really believe as you watched him evolve,
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he's starting to get to the power on the pulse
side too, and it's all opening up because he's a
really good hitter first that mentality of hey, let's be
a good hitter. First, let's make sure that we can
let the ball travel and drive the ball the other way.
Because in the big league, Sean, the biggest thing about
these guys that are on the mound the best in
the world, like the Savages, the guy the one percenters,
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These guys their ball moves so late that last three
to five feet you're seeing cut right and sink until
and all that stuff. And I think to be a
young kid and to be doing so well, you have
to be letting the ball travel at a different level.
And I think Cam Smith's doing that.
Speaker 8 (49:54):
Sean, let me make you commissioner for a day. You
know you've seen the old school part of it. I'm
a guy who has some old school philosophies, but I
like some new school stuff. But I want to make
sure you the commissioner for a day, give me one
thing you're changing and maybe a thing that bothers you
about the current status. Well, I don't care if it's
a player, if it's the rules, whatever, Commissioner, change something
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and tell me what your biggest gripe about baseball.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Is this day and age.
Speaker 9 (50:19):
That's A. That's a that's a that's an interesting question.
I you know, I think the games in a healthy place.
You know. I think there's a lot of good young players.
I like the rules that they you know. I like
the clock. You know, that's one thing I really do like.
You know, I think that's uh, you know, that's that's
definitely changed the game for the better, you know, for
for for everybody. I like, you know, I like what
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they've done with the running. I think that there's more
action there too. Uh you know. I guess I think
about the rules and I think, how can we still,
you know, find a way to continue to you know,
create offense in the game. I guess I look a
little bit at some of the averages or where where
we're at as far as like putting the on play.
You know, I don't know if there's if there's something
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there too. I think I like the the challenge system
that they that they put into place in spring training
with the with the with the robo ms, not robo amps,
but you know, I mean challenge system on a ball strike.
I think I'd be interested to see because I think
a lot of times, you know, you're seeing a lot
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of these a lot of umpires are so quick now
to throw out manager for arguing balls and strikes, and
you know, and there's a little more tension I think
than ever as far as that goes. I think that
would help eliminate some of that stuff if guys could
challenge either way. So you know, that's one of the
things that that that I think would be a good
thing for baseball. And I think if you look at
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the All Star Game this year, you know, you're looking
at a lot of the good young stars that are here,
Elie Dela Cruz and and uh Pete prow Armstrong and
and you know, just a lot of good young faces
that are in the game that are kind of lead
the way. And uh, you know, I just think I
think the games in a really healthy place.
Speaker 8 (52:02):
You've hit well, you've been an All Star, You've watched
guys hit well, do we have too much emphasis on
on launch angle and home run?
Speaker 1 (52:09):
Are you okay with that as well? Would you like
to see more small ball?
Speaker 9 (52:14):
And you know what, I think small balls starting to
come back a little bit as far as you go.
There's more bunting being back because runs at a premium.
And I don't love the exit I'm just you know,
I don't love the exit vlo, especially for kids that
you know when I just talked about Cam Smith. If
you want to get good exit below exit Velo's getting
the ball out front, you know a little bit, but
you don't get the ball. But if you try to
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live out front against good pitching, you're just gonna get
eaten up. You're gonna get taken apart. So it's like
a catch twenty two. So you really got to learn
to let the ball travel so that you can go
the other way so that when you catch a slider.
I think you do your damage on sliders, hanging change
us breaking balls that are up that you catch a
little bit out front with a good bat pass, and
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those are the ones you're clipping, you know, in the
air with the nice launch angle, and those are the
ones that are on you know MLB Network, and you go, oh,
look at these guys hitting homers. Yeah, but the guys
thought process is, let me try to get a ball.
I could drive them back up the middle the other
way and I'm flipping stuff out front. That's what I think.
So the exit velocity stuff, man, it can be dangerous
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for young kids that are trying to just drop and launch,
because that's not what the good hitters are doing.
Speaker 7 (53:22):
Three time All Star MLB Network Analyst and also too,
as I mentioned, Sean, you're helping repair broken bats. Tell
us about what you guys over at Gorilla.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
Glue are doing. It is a gorilla groove fixing your hammy.
That's what we want to know first and foremost.
Speaker 9 (53:38):
I was thinking the same thing. I'm like, man, Girlla
Clue could have put my hammy together before I started
running for the bananas that have been in business. You know.
Oh man, well, you know, it's been a fun project
with Gorilla Glue, you know, we uh it was. It
was so funny because I did this commercial for girla
Glue at Great American Ballpark like a couple of weeks
before I do the hammy with them. But it was
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a really cool thing that what they did was they
took these big league bats that were broken and they
me and they were like, all right, let's see if these,
you know, stand the test of the Grilla Group product
of putting it back together, and see how tough and
durable and strong it is. And Sean, it was unbelievable, dude.
It really like I was hitting with these bats and
I was even like, oh, man, I hope this holds up.
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And it did. I I was hitting rounds with balls
off a pitching machine. Uh. You know that the Grilla
Group Gorilla was feeding into me and and I was
legitimately hitting with these bats that girl group put back together.
So you know, at the end of the day, it
was just it's just pretty incredible. You know. You know
that they're they're the official sponsor of broken bats, and
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it really does work. And and and I would and
I got a chance to see it firsthands. It was
pretty cool.
Speaker 7 (54:47):
Well, you know, as a baseball dad, bats are expensive.
You want to try to be able to keep them
together as much as possible. Hey, Sean, Hey, we appreciate
the time.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Best of luck with the HAMI recovery and the conversation. Yeah,
come join us again. You're always welcome here.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Brother.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
We love having you.
Speaker 9 (55:01):
I appreciate seany. I want to ask you real quick,
what was the exhibition?
Speaker 1 (55:05):
What was your injury?
Speaker 9 (55:06):
What happened well?
Speaker 1 (55:07):
For for me?
Speaker 8 (55:08):
Well, I've been through four knee injuries, a knee replacement,
two shoulders, a broken nose. Mine mine was the first
one I ever had. First time I ever carried a
football ever, because I played baseball and basketball in junior high.
I got the high school first carry ever compound fracture
in my middle finger. I needed Gorilla gu before Gorilla
Goose started. Brother, trust me, and now I'm just holding
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it together.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
You know how I fix that now?
Speaker 1 (55:35):
Shot, You know how I fix that now.
Speaker 8 (55:36):
But when somebody invites you to to, like to play
in a softball game or something, it's like, hmm, extra
beer beforehand, or I let me manage and coach third base.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Right there you go. Well, appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (55:51):
So great, great.
Speaker 8 (55:54):
Shown, great stuff, brother, Good luck man. I appreciate it again.
What a great person. He's always had a great personality.
He could rank man three time All Star, three time
All Star. I could use about two hours talking with
him because he's got a great feel for what's going on,
and he echoed exactly what we've talked about. Dan not
a soul, even professional baseball players that are going on
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television and telling us about it. That this team would
be eighteen games over five hundred. With all that went on,
it felt like he's been sitting in our studio and
watching the same thing, and he has been. But when
it comes out of it, you know when he's speaking
it and about hitting and about baseball and the Astros.
I think a lot of people see it that way.
But also I love the Billy Dorn suggestion standard water
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for six months. Dude, I'll let you know when to
come up and and know when the All Star breaks here.
So that just is that's a way of just staying
in your bubble and taking care of your business. Three
h two career hitter. He knew how to put the
bat on the base and knows how to fix him too,
as we found out.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
Apparently. I wonder if I wonder if the bat companies
like Gorilla Group, because you're a pair where you're gonna
reuse him. This is recycled. We want to keep pumping about.
So you got to pay so nice and get on
top of it.
Speaker 8 (57:07):
But if it works, I can tell you this, don't
get gorilla glue on your index finger and your thumb
because you'll be given. You'll be like W. C. Fields.
You know it's not happening. Well you found that out
in American Pie too. That damn right you did in
the wrong way. That's exactly I'm glu you are.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
What a movie?
Speaker 9 (57:27):
All right?
Speaker 7 (57:28):
I appreciate Sean Casey for stepping in with us, but uh,
golf is the gentleman's game. Can we agree on that?
What about the time that it became you get your
ass kicked on this course? I wonder if maybe that happened.
We'll talk about it right here. It is a Sean
Salisbury Show.
Speaker 9 (57:44):
Who's Who's Sean?
Speaker 1 (57:46):
He's the y sternal judge who sits on high here's
the final say on all disputes.
Speaker 4 (57:52):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?
Speaker 4 (58:03):
The Salsbury's Takeouts Salsbury Takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show special.
Speaker 7 (58:10):
Thanks to MLB Networks Sean Casey for joining us here
on the show. Don't forget to astros GM Dana Brown
gonna join us nine to thirty. Astros lose last night
ten to six and ten indings to the Guardians, and
by the way, to Sean, not one but two inside
the park home runs last night unless I missed the
third or a fourth.
Speaker 8 (58:32):
But you had Lawrence Butler lead off the game for
the A's and we don't ever get leadoff home runs
inside the park. Yeah, we know what it's like to
go out of the park because the guy who plays
second base left field here does it all the time
in Altuve, and then the other one's a least likely catcher,
one of the slowest. Yeah, by one of the metrics,
he is one of the slowest players in the league
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standing up with it inside the park home run for
a walk off. So you open up with a with
a home run in one game, and then you walk
it off with a slow ass catcher running through home
plate without a slide, right, unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (59:07):
So I saw, you know, Jared marsh the center fielder
for the Phillies. He runs down, finally tracks down the ball,
and then whoever was the guy trying to throw the
relay throw home just completely air mailed it and all
the Giants are out the dugout.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
That was it against Philip Oh was Brandon March center field? Yeah, yeah,
it was.
Speaker 7 (59:25):
It was against Philly and whoever through the relay throw
home all the Giants are out the dugout. I want
to know if anybody wore one off the head right there,
they went to the home plate before he got home,
like it was a regular home runners over the fence.
Speaker 8 (59:38):
But there you didn't know who the guy was. It
was supposed touch home plate right. That was impressive. It
took a long time for him to get around the bases,
but it was impressive. Imagine hell, if it would have
been somebody like that has to can flat out run
Cam Smith, he'd have been standing in.
Speaker 1 (59:54):
The dugout by the time all was relayed. Yea. So
it was impressive. Ye not an odd way to open
an end two different games, not even a relay throw
at that point.
Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
All right, So just shared it on Twitter. I'm sure
most of you have seen it now. I'm sure probably
before yesterday. Former NHL player Nick Tarnowsky was a relatively
innocuous person, like I'm sure you could see him. Hey,
that guy played in the NHL. Oh he did my
kind looks like it. But then, you know, you tell
me who he is and who he played for. I've
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been like, yeah, I never heard of him, but I'll
take your word for it. He's a big guy. But
he was also an.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Enforcer, Yeah, very much. But apparently the guy on the
golf course didn't recognize that exactly.
Speaker 7 (01:00:33):
So playing in Alberta, Canada, was Tarnowsky in a group
and apparently the group in front of them drunk, slow play,
all of those different things.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
So they finally catch up to him on a hole.
Speaker 7 (01:00:45):
And I didn't share the video play the audio here
because a lot of f bombs, even though it's very Canadian,
like I love the one guy in the video.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Oh I've got it on record. Oh yeah, Like it
was so Canadian have like you know, enough guys enough, Yeah,
no more.
Speaker 8 (01:01:03):
Yeah, it was constant and the f bombs will prevent it,
but you can probably describe it pretty well. So it
finally gets to a point where the guy thinks, all right, hey,
I'm gonna ball up to this guy, you know, thinking, Hey,
the bigger you are, the harder you fall.
Speaker 7 (01:01:15):
I'll just charge at him. He's not gonna fight me.
It's a golf course. He's probably you know, bark is
worse than his bite. Tronowski said, oh, I see you
on that pancake blocks him into the pond that's right there.
Then Turnowski gets up starts yeah no. That's what it
then leads to is the guy gets out of the
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water like swamp thing comes at him, and then Turnowski says,
I'll turn into a hockey player right here, grabs.
Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
The guy by the golf shirt and I love that
he's breaking off. Mike Breen bangs as he's hitting him
with rights, bang bang, and then then throws him like
fifteen feet. I felt like in the air. And then
you want to come back for more.
Speaker 8 (01:01:57):
Now, I'll tell you what I'll give the loud mouth
all had no cattle guy, which we all know one
of those guys, right, we all know they all had
no cattle guy. They exist well usually they take one
good right right, they're done. Yeah, In life, there's a
lot of no all had no cattle guys. This guy
is one of them. Whatever he was drinking, was speaking
a matter of fact, talking about overloading your mouth with
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your ass and doing it. And then what he throws
he gets back up. But you right then and there,
if you didn't know who Tarnowski was, which most people
didn't until like a day later. The way he was
grabbing him inside like he went on a hockey sweater,
pulling it and then he was size. It wasn't flailing away.
His were calculated. And when that guy tried to get
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up and do it and left it open, grab and
throw and they were in the ten point must system,
the not three knockdown rules in effect finally, but that
guy kept getting up. It's like, dude, I understand it.
It's like the strong jaw, stupid jaw. And next time
you'll learn better, be careful who you pick fights with.
And the you saw the way he fought him, you're like, okay,
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this is he's fighting like he's on skates, where he's
grabbing sweater and sizing up the right that he can
throw and pummel him with.
Speaker 7 (01:03:08):
Howard Letterman did not have it ten to nine Turnowski.
He had it as ten Ohnoski.
Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:03:14):
And the fight doctor Ferdy Pacheko had to go there
and clean a cut too. Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Yeah, we're stitch when you need him.
Speaker 8 (01:03:20):
But they play fast, I mean play reasonably fast, be
smart or wave the people up and then don't talk
and crap to a guy who's not only that, even
if he wasn't a hockey player, was twice his.
Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Size and the other guy was.
Speaker 8 (01:03:30):
You know, he looked like he was put together pretty well,
but obviously the mouth was talk about the mouth being
a little bit more than the punch, and he did.
He didn't land anything, but he took a big punishment.
And I would imagine that golf course in him won't
see each other again, and he'll probably choose a different
group or a timing that he doesn't have to play
in front of a guy that's gonna pummel him for
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talking all that nonsense and commented him first.
Speaker 7 (01:03:54):
Well, the extended cut too that I posted on Twitter
is that they're getting on the guy about being drunk too,
and they're like, look, he can't even tee his ball up.
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
What are we doing?
Speaker 8 (01:04:05):
Yeah, he was sloppy and mouthy and slow play, which
means time for you to take the day off and
go and regroup. And I guarantee he wakes up. Now,
maybe he's not one of those guys that wakes up
and says, man, what an idiot I was. But now
it's viral and every time you walk into a place
and can say you're the guy who got who asked
a hockey player because you were drunk and stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:04:24):
Probably now the well you know, at least the the
Edmonton flasher Kate whatever her name is. I think that's
her name, but anyway, it doesn't matter. It sits behind
the bio.
Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Well, no, she was. She was the one that was
at the playoffs the year before and then you know.
Speaker 7 (01:04:39):
Decided and here he got the one that sits behind
the bench with tremendous upper body strength, right right, got right? Yeah,
But now this guy, probably he steps into a bar
to grabs some moles and they're gonna be like, hey,
you're the guy that got his ass kicked Tarnowski.
Speaker 8 (01:04:52):
But you know what good hockey fights do, or guys
that happen, you know what they end up doing. So
you can go back on the course after it's all over,
you go to I would say I was a mouthy idiot.
Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
I'm sober.
Speaker 8 (01:05:03):
Now, let me buy you a beer. So Number one,
I don't get my ass kicked again. Number Two, the
next time I see out of the golf course, it's
not uncomfortable. Number Three I learned a valuable lesson. I
appreciate the ass whooping, and you know what most former
hockey or current hockey guys will do, put their arm
around you, go in and buy you the beer. The guys,
they whoop your ass and they drink have a beer together.
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Probably the wise move or stay away from the golf
course that Tarnowski plays on a regular basis, or play
faster and be less mouthy. The suplex at the end
was my favorite, where he he's barrel tossed him. I've
never ever been to a golf course thinking, you know what,
even with somebody slow play, I'm gonna get in a
fist fight with somebody.
Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
I mean, of all places, you know what, I think
I'm gonna go fight somebody on the golf that's supposed
to be a place of grinding out a game, having fun,
smoking a cigar, playing golf with your buddies, been having
a good time yet, and you could compete and have fun.
But I never go there thinking, you know what, Today's
not a good day to get in a fist.
Speaker 8 (01:05:58):
Fight on whole seven while I and a guy's asked
for slow playing, drinking too much. Right, Normally it's a
guy in your own group, says, dude, don't run the
cart into the water. But you know, I guess you
never thought you were going to be in a boxing
match on a golf course. But don't mess with a
hockey dude, because they're guys. They're like Cauliflowerer. They do
know how to fight. Oh yeah, and they don't need
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a club to do it. No, I was gonna say,
in this case, the club was the right fist. And
then yeah, he kind of does that step to the
right barrel tossed him. Oh yeah, guy, that was That
was a different weight class of fight. Why do you
have grass steins? Don't ask?
Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
I told you.
Speaker 8 (01:06:34):
I said that guy was awfully ambitious. I was trying
to be awfully ambitious in that fight. That idea, he'll
learn a valuablest to hit the ball, don't get hit.
Speaker 7 (01:06:42):
It's like in the movie Beer League. You should see
the other guy. I imagine bloody knuckles, mostly clean face.
Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Exactly. That was the case Tartowski came out. He put
it this way.
Speaker 8 (01:06:52):
The only thing that would have heard at his grip
on the next shot he takes, because his knuckles were
beat up, no doubt about it.
Speaker 7 (01:06:57):
Now he landed some punches. Yeh, Canadians throwing down on
the golf course. All right, let's get back in the
Diastros conversation. As last night's disappointing. But the final four
games here the All Star break, we will talk about
it here on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
The seven o'clock hour, seven ninety listener line is presented
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by one eight hundred car Cash And I always love
this too, like where you say something in the moment
and then immediately later on people still take it as
you said it at the time where it was finalized.
At the time I said it was two for eighteen
with eleven runners on base, they said two for twenty
one with twelve.
Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
I'm like, go back and check the time of when
I've said it. It was two for eighteen at the time,
the tenth inning didn't matter. The game was over.
Speaker 7 (01:07:45):
When you're down by four runs, even with the runner
on second, you're not going to be able to put
together any type of you know, any type of hard
against a medal clause A.
Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Yeah, so, I mean you've got that.
Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
But again, though, Sean, I mean it's a repeating yourself
all of those different things that can start to wear
and annoy some people. I don't care at this point
because so many times we've looked at the pitching staff
this year and they've been able to Oh man, I
didn't expect this from Steven Okert? Oh Man, what a
job by Caleb Ort? Like how many times this year? Honestly,
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can we say what a job right there by Jiner Diaz,
What a job right there by Victor Carrattini. We've said
it more with him, but you get my point here
is that we're saying it about the pitchers, but then
when it's a hint of it doesn't go their direction,
then it's a oh well, what's wrong with Steven Okert?
Speaker 8 (01:08:37):
Let me ask you this, and I've optics from just
watching this year. Am I making a mistake and thinking
I need to look at the numbers that I feel
like scoring's down, that pitching's getting the best of hitting
this year?
Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 7 (01:08:53):
I'd have to look at the overall numbers? But I mean,
with the pitch clock everything or advantage pitchers?
Speaker 8 (01:08:58):
So are we going to a point point and are
getting to a point and why should pitchclock be advantage pitchers?
Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Though?
Speaker 8 (01:09:05):
That's my point, but most of them have. I mean,
early on it was, oh, the hitters got the Vandy.
Now you know it can only throw over so many times.
It's it's almost like the narrative shifted because when the
pitchers trying to adjust when it first kicked in. My
whole thing is am I and I'm we'll go to
break and I'm going to look it up. But do
I feel like what the Astros are going through is
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similar to most teams in the league where pitching's got
a leg up on hitting. Now, normally that is the
case starting out right, It's like football. What's usually I
had the first month defense, defense, and then offense kicks
into it. So I'm wondering if the overall, and it
may be within a run.
Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (01:09:45):
I just feel like, even though it's maybe not be
starting pitching going to seven innings in most baseball, it
feels to me like pitching and we're getting more quality
pitching than consistent hitting across Major League Baseball. Now, I
may be one hundred percent off, but now I sit
at home with a baseball package with you, even if
it's just in casual watching Cleveland play Pittsburgh and you
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know in a game or Cleveland play Detroit in a
game where it's not your teams, but you're watching because
it's on it's a day game that you want to see. Well,
I maybe I'm gonna check, and I could be wrong,
but I feel like, and I've said it all along,
that the Astros are going to win a championship this year.
It's going to be because they've got good hitting at
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times timely hitting, but pitching stays healthy and pitches like this,
that'll be what you point to. And I'm sure it'll
be the case with others, but there are teams that
you know, when you look at the Dodgers, you're gonna say, yeah,
but with that lineup, man sure helped the attitude of
the pitching staff right now. If you're the pitching staff,
while you believe in your own players, you do have
to look around when you stand on the mount and say,
we're doing it different this year. So I'm just wondering
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about the overall metrics, the numbers this year.
Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
I just feel like.
Speaker 8 (01:10:58):
Pitchers are getting better, that there's a lot of low
scoring games this year. We're less than five runs between
the two teams. Is being scored and I may be
way wrong. I just feel like I'm watching more low
scoring games and high scoring games, and I don't have
one stat in front of me to bear that out
of than what I'm watching here in Houston and seeing
certain teams. I feel like in the most cases, in
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most cases, that pitching is keeping scores down more than
hitting is raising them this year.
Speaker 7 (01:11:28):
That's the reason why Dana Brown says pitching, pitching, pitching,
and we'll talk with him at nine thirty. All right,
So let's get into a little bit of football here,
because it's a hard lesson for some to learn, and
in some cases, well they never learn.
Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
We'll talk about it here.
Speaker 7 (01:11:41):
It is a Sean Salisbury show on a Western Wednesday,
Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
The Sean Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 7 (01:11:51):
We've talked to the Bill Belichick topic quite at nauseum,
and it's been a tandem topic here of not only him.
You mentioned then you got to mention Jordan Hudson. But
gonna go a little bit of a different tact on this.
So Chris Long has the podcasts and Ryan Clark also
another guy that's in the podcasting world, but they both
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met up for a conversation that I didn't see whose
podcast it was on, but they were talking about Bill
Belichick and you know people coming after him now and
it was on the green Light podcast, so it was
on longs. But the two guys talking about it believe
that the media is pouncing on Belichick now out of spite.
Speaker 8 (01:12:36):
And your question is do you believe they're bouncing out? Oh,
I think there's obvious. I think there is a lot
of people. He was a statement question. Yeah, I think
there are plenty of people that are on Bill Belichick
out of spite. There's no doubt it's a chance to
pounce because when he was onto, he was almost unreachable.
Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
He ran in New England and to win in a
twenty year run. Plus.
Speaker 8 (01:13:00):
Oh, I don't think there's any doubt that at times
certain media members are make it personal. There's no doubt
that we've seen it when people vote for people for
the Hall of Fame. Instead of look at all the criteria,
they people will they will make it personal if somewhere
along the line, maybe you wrong them or didn't give
an interview, we're rude to me. Yes, there's no doubt
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that human nature kicks in now can Belichick handle it.
I'm quite sure he can, but I don't think there
is any doubt that. I don't think that's the only reason,
but I do think that there that out of spite
or out of the way you've had to deal with
Bill his whole career, where he's been very very he's
a bruder and guarded and protective of his there's no question,
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and they have an opportunity, and now don't let him struggle.
Don't let this team come out of the shoot and
and play poorly, because if they do, they will pounce
because it's an opportunity. It's like anything when somebody's got
tremendous success and is dominant in what they do, it's
the first sign of a fall off. The people are
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all over it, so that it's another thing guard against it.
He's gonna have to be if that North Carolina team's
not great but just okay, he's gonna have to deal
with a lot of a lot of heat.
Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
And you and I both know it.
Speaker 8 (01:14:15):
But there's no doubt that spite or payback or I
didn't like him then and now it's an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
There is no question about it.
Speaker 8 (01:14:22):
That people will nitpick over a way to get after
Bill Belichick right now, because success breeds jealousy and he's
had a lot of it. And Bill adds to the
ear because he doesn't give you what you want to
hear well, and the hard lesson to learn is what
Belichick is learning right now. To the point you just
brought up, it almost doesn't matter if they win ten, eleven,
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twelve games there in Chapel Hill. Everybody's always going to
care what's happening at the Dean Smith Center.
Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (01:14:49):
So you start losing a little bit, you go eight
and four, seven and five, something like that, and you
continue to be this way with people like.
Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Notice Tiger Woods, when did Tiger Woods start to get
really nice starting to come out of his struggles. It
happens to a lot of people where they like, man,
I gotta be kinder.
Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Even when he.
Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Came out of the struggles, though he was still very
much I hold the cards, And people were like, you
really don't now because we know mostly about you, and
we know exactly what well you become more. So you
become more you're your your god in the world saw
it all.
Speaker 8 (01:15:19):
You didn't get to you didn't get to brute or
be internal because well when the law gets involved and
in the in the videos and you see the pictures
and then the car accident and goes Listen, First off,
it was never our business to tell to tell uh
Tiger Woods how to have a marriage, to be his
marriage counselor he didn't know me an apology for anything
when he went through that part of it. He and
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about a billion others that go through differences in opinion
or cheating or whatever and there, but all the other stuff,
and the fact is that he was always the guy
on the golf course that if he had you on
the back nine or you're in the final group and
the rest of it, you better it's going to be
a long walk for you. And he wasn't kindness on
the golf course. He was grinder on the golf which
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made him great. But you know, Nicholas wasn't into Tiger Woods,
wasn't into small talk on the golf course. But as
you get we've seen it in a lot of people.
They come out and there's just well take a look
at it in a younger way. But bryceon de Shamba arrogant,
hits it long. Not a lot of people the way
he went about it. And the truth is we're seeing
Deshambo's real personality and now he's become a fan favorite.
(01:16:23):
When he was the guy you're like, man, he hits
it a long way, but wouldn't it be cool? I
wanted to get beat. But now he's shown his personality
watching videos and did Tiger Woods becoming more personal. He's
laughing more, and he's just he's become a mentor to
a lot of these guys that younger ones that competed
with him. In the case of Bill Belichick, I don't
think Bill's ever gonna beat But we also start thinking
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when Bill did the stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
With Peyton Manning.
Speaker 8 (01:16:46):
We start and we're saying, with Nick Saban, look how
likable Saban's become on television. And I believe that if
Bill Belichick wouldn't have got back into coaching two or
three years of it, you would have seen more. Because
Bill's got a fun personality. He's been a roadie for
bonje Jo. He likes to goes out and he likes
to have a good time. He's dating a twenty some
year old so or thirty whatever she is now, so
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he does. But Bill has always been and this I
can guarantee. You know, Bill has always been that. What's
that building is is he treats it as if it's
his form of the Pentagon. We're protecting this place, right,
And that's a he always everything he did was I'm
not giving anybody a leg up everything, and he's going
to try the same approach to North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
But you got to win.
Speaker 8 (01:17:29):
And if he doesn't win, you're right, they'll be talking
about the Dean you know, the Dean Smith's team in
North Carolina basketball, not his team, but you know what
I'm saying. But like what happened with at Kentucky Stoops
got him winning, like what's happened in some other places
where it's no longer just a footballs that you do
that we're relevant and North Carolina mac Brown did a
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good job making them relevant. They never want a Nation title,
but was Sam Howe. They start to get better and
Belichick can extend that. Now you want to talk about
the legend growing, get to the playoff and watch how
quickly it'll people say, oh gosh, And then it'll even
bother him more because he waltzed in, took over a
college program which he's never been a head coach, of
a college program and starts kicking your ass there different.
(01:18:10):
But Bill's done it his way a long time. But
I'll garant ask to you. Didn't we say the same
thing about Saban a person would ask a question. Now
he's in the media and we think he's one of
the most personal audi He's fantastic, So they're seeing a
different side him. Guys, do it different, you know what?
And for the Tiger Woods and Tiger as he got
older and started to see his career mortality, you do
(01:18:30):
You're like, Okay, you kind of let the guard down.
I don't have to put the shield up. We've all
been there. Tell me when you're going through something, tell
me you haven't gone into a little bit of a corner. Said,
I know when I went through my rock bottom, the
rest of it, I disappeared. And then when you come back,
it's like, okay, not that you went through rock bottom.
Somebody's punishing, but you say, okay, is it worth that
on your own self?
Speaker 9 (01:18:51):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
And at some point in time you got it. Look
at Brady, it was a grinder and a grinder boy.
Speaker 8 (01:18:56):
We saw a different personality when when he at the end,
when he got the Tampa was having more fun, and
maybe Bill was part of the reason he was having
more fun that Bill wasn't around. But I think it
happens to a lot. But the can of worms will
definitely be open. And if they lose, of course, people
are gonna pounce. And it's human nature, whether we like
it or not. For people's jealousy.
Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
And if he didn't give you the interview, if you
didn't get what you wanted, if he kind of got
on you like parcels would do or saving at a
press conference, there is no doubt and there's jealousy also
that a man that's seventy or whatever he is now
in his se can pull a thirty year old. That
exists too, because now it's not turned into patting your
buddy on the back. Say, man, you pull you pulled
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somebody forty years or fifty years younger than you. It's
with him, it's that's gross. It's great. If it was
a rock and roll guy, you know what they'd be saying.
But man, you badass, you're pulling something forty years younger
than you. Stephen You, Errol Smith and Steven Todler, whether
it is or you get my point with him, Bill
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gives you, it's easy to get after him because he
doesn't let you.
Speaker 8 (01:20:00):
And we want our guy, we want our athletes and
coaches to let us in. And when they're honest and
we let him in, guess what we do. How dare
him right?
Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
So, whether you like it or not, the moral part
of it, Bill, there's no doubt that he will have
to face that and deal with it. In hints why
winning in college it's it's going to be even tougher
because now, because of the expectations and the way it
ended in New England, people are going to pounce because
they think there's some vulnerability there and that there's room
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to do it. And he's not sitting on a thing.
Tom Brady's not his quarterback.
Speaker 7 (01:20:34):
Well, I mean take a guy like Greg Popovitch, for example,
once he stopped winning, all of his other things, the politics,
the being a curmudgeon, not really want to do the
endgame interview, all of those things, it's started to wear
thin with people.
Speaker 8 (01:20:47):
Well, not only that that Greg Popovich is a great
coach and wish him well in his health and in
his retirement, but I can tell you this that Popovich
made it easy not to like him. And then when
it's over with and you want to you know he's
going through he say, man, what a great coach, but
he was losing it and said, oh now now the
IMPACT's a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
You got to do it different.
Speaker 8 (01:21:08):
Then we start to say, oh, well you don't have
Tony Parker and David Robinson or Tim Duncan or managing Nobili.
Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Oh so you can only coach stars. You hear that
great coach.
Speaker 8 (01:21:18):
But yes, when the vulnerability sets in, people, oh there's
a crack, let me go see if I can break
that thing wide open. And I don't think Pops yet
got to be kinder and gentler. Maybe through the health
issues he will, but as a coach, abrasive and hard
to like. But think about this him Saban Parcels Belichick.
There's been a lot of them that in order to
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be great tiger Woods, in order to be great.
Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
A lot of them. You've got to be single minded.
At times, you're just selfish.
Speaker 8 (01:21:46):
You just do about the way you go and not
let people in because there's always somebody who's willing to
disrupt the apple cart in your own building. It's not
a lot of times people outside, it's the people inside.
And so those guys guard against it and have done
a great job. But the second there's failure, it's easy
to pounce on somebody that you say he treated us.
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I mean he didn't treat us very well, right, so
I'm gonna go get him. Happens all the time. Well,
winning cures all things. You're to stop winning, well, that's
when the flaws start to show. All right, let's get
back into the astros conversation. As if you're gonna blame
these guys, well then you're really kind of wasting your time.
We'll talk about it here.
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Speaker 7 (01:23:11):
It would have been out in one of one ballparks
out there, and Dykin Park just happened to be one
of them. Astros GM, Dana Brown going to join us
at nine point thirty four his weekly visit, and Sean,
you know, we played the montage to starting to show
today of all the runners left on bass scenarios, and
Cooper Hummel was one of them. Zach Short strikes out
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looking there in the ninth with the winning run on
second base after Mauricio Dubond doubles off left center field wall.
Taylor Tremmell one of them. A couple of hits out
of him last night, so that's good to see. But still,
I mean, it gets back to what we were talking about.
I'm with you on the you don't coast into this thing.
You try to win every single one of these games,
which they're trying to do. I mean, the last couple
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of nights, it's been hard luck for him and they've
just fallen in both of those games.
Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
That happens, but it's also too I mean, this is.
Speaker 7 (01:24:02):
Almost kind of like getting upset with the host at
a restaurant because your steak wasn't cooked right, you know
what I mean? Like, am I really gonna be upset
with a guy that's a sub two hundred hitter? Well,
he did so well in La Okay, that's the exception,
that's not the rule. For Zach Short, he's batted under
two hundred for his career for a reason, Cooper Hummel,
it's been a guy trying to hold onto a major
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league spot. Same deal with Taylor Tremmell. He's bounced around
a little bit. But it again comes back to what
we talked about earlier is I'm not gonna be upset
with those guys because they're doing the best that they can.
At this point, it's about the other guys that you
count on. Again, Victor Carrottini, nice grand slam out there
in La nice one out in Colorado. But then you've
got an opportunity to be able to tie a ball
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game up, and he popp one up in the foul
territory and you kind of ruined that entire inning.
Speaker 8 (01:24:51):
So for you give me your overall evaluation, as I
hear you say, with eighteen games over five hundred, and
the frustration you have with the Daz or somebody who's
you expect more from, not the guys like you said, well,
Jake Myers. Well for every gain or Daz, there's a
Jake Myers right now. So now flip it you would
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have said, well, I expect Jake Myers to hit two twenty, right,
and I expect.
Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
He's performing well above.
Speaker 8 (01:25:20):
Okay, so as I'll go back to mind, I'm not
as frustrated if it bothers me game to game, But
the overall you know, when we're looking at one series,
one game, one player, but the overall grind or ability,
or camaraderie or performance, while it may not be up
to standard what we're used to, would it? Does it
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make you feel any better to know that, even though
this guy's not doing it, that a Jake Myers is
pulling your So I know you want them all, but
at what point time? Now, I guess my point is,
at what point time if it continues like this? Are
you know that everybody doesn't stay hot for a long
time and some seasons some don't get hot at all?
Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
So how for you? What's going to satisfy you? What
do you want that picture to look like?
Speaker 8 (01:26:07):
Eighteen? What if I told you that Yaner Daz was
going to get smoking hot? Ass was Christian Walker? But
when Painting gets back, he's going to hit two thirty
and al Tuvey is gonna go through a month's slump
and they're gonna they're gonna play less than five hundred baseball.
Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
Would you be willing to.
Speaker 8 (01:26:27):
Sacrifice that to make sure that they that the guys
you need, the D's and Christian Walker ht. My point
is the chances of you getting your questions answered this
year about the hitting everybody hot for a long time.
Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
You and I both know what the chances of that are.
Speaker 7 (01:26:41):
Well, I'm not asking for everybody to get hot, but
I am asking for the guys that I do expect
more out of to be able to do the job.
Speaker 8 (01:26:48):
Because again, you know, as I mentioned last night, how
often to do the job with yanerd Is. I know
we've seen it, but we Yaner d Is is not
a three thirty hitter. I mean, I know he's better
than he's hitting and chasing right the optics that we're
looking at, right, I get that, But I just I
mean so, but the success of this team, even though
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some aren't contributed, they are contributing, but not in the
way we want.
Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
I just isn't this how sports goes? Though?
Speaker 8 (01:27:16):
Sometimes that's fart and I understand, But Yaner Diaz isn't
Johnny Bench just yet. He's still in the infancy of
his career.
Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
I'm not. I am one hundred per year to do.
Speaker 8 (01:27:27):
We've had this conversation on and off the air about
the things you expect, but is it more us or
than the temperates? And we know they're working on it,
they want to get it going. But if he goes
on and goes hot for three weeks and then it's
cold for two weeks, isn't that kind of the way
baseball goes Unless your name's Tony Gwynnor, one of those
cats that just is always the mookie bets of the
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otanis that are just different. Everybody's not different when it
comes to success. And I know I'm trying to and
not even rationalize, trying to see it half full, because
I guess at the end of the year, I don't
want to come in here say and mend Is hit
three twenty, but we lost the division because four other
guys got hurt or hot. I would love it all
to happen. But the realistic part of it and the
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the the non grind for us where you like sweating
every single game. I'm trying this year to look at
the overall production as opposed to that guy's not pitching, well,
that guy's not hitting well. And you can't say that
about much of the pitching to the to the point
because in one hundred and sixty two games, the chances
of eighty of them you getting everybody rolling At the
(01:28:30):
same time, I know you just like less of a
gap in it. I get it, But I'm willing to
deal with two forty yin DEAs right now. If the
hitting elsewhere, other guys elevate because that's what their jobs
to do, and we expect it from our stars. But
sometimes you're starting what's going to happen if I mean,
if Jordan comes back and has a great and has
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an average, we're used to him having great seasons, but
as just where he's sitting, two thirty eight, two forty five,
comes back, play seventy games, play six games, and they're
still winning. I know, in the offseason say well, that's
got to get better, and it will and we expect it.
But what's going to be in more important the wins
or the individual fact that hey, yeah, yan Or d
Is and yord On Alvarez got hot, and put it
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this way, if they get hot, it'll look different. If
if jord On Alvarez is hot for two months, it's
gonna look different than if cam Smith was hot for
two months.
Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
Why.
Speaker 8 (01:29:24):
There's just certain guys that can load you on the
back and carry it. And we know that Jordon cam
but in Yan or d Is or any of these guys.
I think Dan, as we went in and talked about it,
maybe this is just a year that you're gonna have
to deal the highs and lows. My concern is if
this continues and the pitching starts to struggle then and
I think that's where you're kind of headed with this,
that oh man, we don't borrow trouble, but man, we
better get out in front of this because if you
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don't start to get on at some point in time,
like the last two games, you're gonna give up more
runs than you're used to. And if you're not hitting,
then the gap closes with those teams that are. There's
a give and take. I get that, but I mean
it is also though too. It just feels like the
pitching is giving much mo more agreat than the hitting is.
Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
And it's a day to day thing. Compartment day.
Speaker 8 (01:30:03):
We come on a show every day, so we got
to talk about every game every day, right, and we
get to talk about him, and it changes tomorrow. If
he goes four for four, we'll celebrate him tomorrow or Friday,
or if he goes four for four today, and then
if he goes oh for four and strikes out and
takes the golden sombrero on Friday, you're judging it. So
the key for me is to look at the game
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and the overall injuries, but look at the game and
then not worry about what Yanerds is going to look
like four weeks from now, but day to day. So
I understand the compliments and the criticism that we give him.
Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
But what he hit last year? What was his average
last year? What he hit, what would it end? I'm
just using that as all.
Speaker 8 (01:30:43):
What was he in the seventies to sixties to seventies,
somewhere in that range, just his overall numbers and just
as a as a as a mark and two ninety
nine last year, okay, well, and in two ninety nine,
which I don't think any of us thought that he
was a two ninety nine, three hundred guy when he
came in, power twenty five home runs, driving eighty five nine.
Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
But he's always been a good hit two sixty five seventy,
he would be fine with me, right right, And what
is he hitting right now? Two forty two? Okay, so
if he gets close. Maybe it was a little down season.
Speaker 8 (01:31:13):
But if you can push it to two sixty and
they keep winning, that'll help them continue to win. But
to your point, the pitching, it's still a lot of
pressure when the three four to five hitters. Now take
a look at the three four five hitters in this
lineup when Jordan's been healthy. They what they are doing.
They're not doing a lot of damage at times. But
for me, it's more consistency than I'm not even looking
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at the average. But if you can drive on those
days when you're not hitting, you know you'll one for
four and hit a three run homer because it's timely
that if he doesn't hit two ninety nine, I'll be
okay with it. But they're certain he has got to
pick up the temple, there's no doubt. But the pressure
you're putting on pitching is enormous. If you continue to
be inconsistent at the plate.
Speaker 7 (01:31:52):
It just shouldn't come down to Cooper, Hammel, Taylor Tremmell,
Zach Short And I know that again, that montage we played,
it was a lot of those guys and those runners
left on base situations. But it's I need more out
of the guys that I can expect more out of
and be pleasantly surprised with those guys.
Speaker 8 (01:32:10):
What's your biggest disappointment with the Astros this year? It's
the middle of the order hitting.
Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
There's no doubt. There's no doubt. I mean again last night,
I think it's a no brainer. You get the first
couple of guys on base and now two Veay moves
the guy over all, right, great job, you know to
sacrifice fly.
Speaker 7 (01:32:25):
We love to see that. But then it's a routine
ground ball to third. A routine ground ball is short.
I mean, I put out the tweet US said, that's
routine fungo practice right there that you just gave them
from guys that honestly, you got to have more out
of in that spot.
Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Even though it's early in the game. You still need
more out of those guys.
Speaker 8 (01:32:41):
Do you believe they can survive with the three four,
five hole if you're done playing like he did before
the injury and Christian Walker slash Jiner Diaz kind of
the up and dead the Dow Jones part of their season.
Do you believe even if the pitching holds up like
it has, do you believe they can win a championship
with the way they're swinging the bat right now, barely
holding on? Okay, so you think that gap is going
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to close because the Rangers aren't going to continue to
play this way all year. They will finally find a
hot streak and you don't want it to start against you.
Speaker 7 (01:33:10):
And when that happens, then then you got a division
race on your hands. Do you trust that you just
said the Rangers are going to go on a hot streak?
And I think the Gram's at all start too, right.
Speaker 8 (01:33:18):
I mean, if you say he has come back, the
guy's great pitching wise, I know, And you can make
a case that the big right hander Nathan Evaldi is
an All Star too.
Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
You could make that case. He's had a good season.
But so you just told me that you expect.
Speaker 8 (01:33:34):
The text Strangers get hot, which means hitting a lot
of times for them because they got good pitching that's
been once let them down. Then do you have the
same expectations for jan Or Christian Walker and Jordan.
Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
Jiner?
Speaker 7 (01:33:47):
Yes, Walker, I hope Jordon absolutely, because it's what we've expected,
what we've seen.
Speaker 8 (01:33:52):
Well, if that's the case, then hang on. Don't let
yourself get beat up, because if you're saying it's going
to happen, then eighteen games over five hundred with a
lead in the division would to wit seven games, six
and six and a half games when you got that lead.
If it's going to happen and you're putting that much
faith in what the Rangers are going to do and
we're going about to see them here this weekend, then
you've got guys that you believe and their history tells
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you that they can. Then what's not for us to
expect the same thing. Now, if you don't get it
from either, but you get it from pitching. The Astros
are in great position. So it's the expectations for us.
But I get it every day. We got to talk
about it. But they're going to need Basically, if they
don't hit like you expect them to, you think the
gap is going to close.
Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
And this is the last two weeks type of win
the division season is what you think.
Speaker 7 (01:34:37):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's why we'd be tracking to
you continue to kind of have these inconsistent performances with
the Bats because I can't expect the pitching to hold up.
Speaker 8 (01:34:45):
The way it has all year, and if it does,
if you want to name a team MVP, it'll be
that whole group, right and not named Panya if that
keeps up. So I don't have answers, but we have
a lot of questions, but we do have some some
pretty good optics to see. But the expectations here, and
I think it's a good thing, is the criticism. Even
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though they're eighteen games over five hundred. You do expect
more the plate from this team and from some of
the guys you've mentioned, and if you get it, then
it's going to be a fun finish to this season.
Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
Strong takes a.
Speaker 7 (01:35:17):
Part of this business, and sometimes some can be weaker
than others. This one might be one of the weakest
ones I've ever seen. We'll talk about it here. It
is the Sean Salisbury Show on a Western Wednesday, Sports
Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
The Sewan Salisbury Show continues and a no, now you know.
Speaker 7 (01:35:37):
Ah, you know what, Hey, maybe we're too hard on
the guy or a lady because they actually made a
good point. But here's another lesson that I think is
in this business is there's two things that I am
very uncomfortable doing. Number one is questioning a guy's physical ability.
You know, are they in shape, are they not? Any
of those different things. And the other one is effort.
(01:35:59):
But that didn't stop Kansas City host Kevin Keatsman is
his name, and he was reacting to a photo that
got out over fourth of July weekend of Patrick Mahomes
a little bit of a dad bod there. His response,
he's fat, He's an embarrassment. Stop the fast food, do
a sit up, do something I don't understand it. You
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can't run through the NFL career eating taco bell all
the time, in door, dashing fried chicken. You've got a
five hundred million dollar contract. It's your job. He's done
nothing but eat and drink this offseason. Well, of course,
the Internet being the Internet, somebody out there posted a
picture of Keatsman where.
Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
It looks like he's eating at a culver's.
Speaker 7 (01:36:41):
If I had to guess, I don't even know if
we have culvers down here, but it's a those that
don't do okay, I have one in my time. Okay, Yeah,
So those that don't know it's a burger frozen custard
play is very customary.
Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
There are a time a dozen all throughout the Midwest,
pretty damn good. But a picture of him on there and.
Speaker 7 (01:36:56):
That's exactly the lesson, like for a guy like me,
or it's you know, saying, oh, that guy's fat, that
guy's out of shape. Immediately, I guarantee you my Twitter
feed's gonna be full of pictures of me because I
could seem to lose a few. And if I'm the
guy doing that, then soon enough, you got to face
the guys after you say something like that. You better
be on all ten toes and ten fingers at that
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point because it's going to be thrown back at you
and then some oh, and you have.
Speaker 8 (01:37:24):
To show up after that. You can't stay behind it.
You can't sit behind in a radio or television studio
and say it and then not go be the guy
at practice and when they walk off the field they
know it's you, because then you'll lose more respect. You
got to face the music if you get it, and
criticism does happen.
Speaker 9 (01:37:37):
Now.
Speaker 8 (01:37:38):
The difference in the other argument the other way is
going to be, well, one guy's a professional athlete, one's
not so. And if you compare it to a lot
of post career stuff or media members, it's we did
do a lot of sitting around, you know what I'm saying,
and I get it, and travel and eating in press boxes.
Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
That's to do.
Speaker 8 (01:37:54):
I get all that I personally, you know when you
say I'm not gonna people have different routines, and let's
face facts, Mahomes hasn't exactly been a an Adonis chiseled
out of stone since he came out of tech sick.
Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
That's just not been his body type. That's okay.
Speaker 8 (01:38:13):
He's had great success not having not looking like well
Vinny Testaverd he was when he's mentioned four fifty or
Tim Tebow. Okay, but he's done it and it works
for him. But there is something too pushing for now
do I think it's harsh? Does he really know that
all's Mahomes is done, eat taco bell and drink beer.
(01:38:34):
I mean, maybe he hasn't had some fun and he
should enjoy the fruits of his labor. But you also
got to remember your day job and the commitment to it.
So I'm not questioned that until I see if in
fact your performance threat is you gain twenty five pounds
in the off season and you're fat and out of shape,
and it shows because you're just mechanics. Start to suffer
and you're letting your team down. Then you go and say,
(01:38:55):
got to get your ass in shape. I don't know
why the person stuff he's fat all he does drink beer.
It's almost like it's a hot take thing trying to
get because now it's everybody's talking about across the country.
Right now, I will say this and it's not talking
about mahomes body and the rest of it. Did Patrick Mahomes.
He's fortunate, he's been really healthy, He's got a good
team and it works for him. Listen, we've seen plenty
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of guys. Do you say, how is how is he
getting this done? He looks out of shape that just
play fifteen years and they just don't. They don't look
like you think of professional athletes supposed to walk into
a baseball clubhouse. Eighty percent of them, at least back
in the day. They get in shape, they've show they
you'd sink man in a uniform look pretty good. They
pull it off and they got the done lap disease
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where the belly's hanging of Doune. It happens in all sports,
football too, So I'm not an attack a guy for
that unless the performance is suffering and you say, got
to get ben Brian Liemolte. When we were on here
a couple of years ago, he questioned Javier's conditioning and
he was out of shape.
Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
Because he looked a little heavier.
Speaker 8 (01:39:55):
And when you're on there and you're trying to grind
and five won't get you six because you're out of shape.
Five extra pounds didn't get you to six innings. So
and it wasn't an attack and bad body, but it's
like the commitment. We've had that same talk about James
Harden in this city and he'll still go score thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
So some guys can do it. It's not the current.
Speaker 8 (01:40:13):
I'll tell you what does concern me though, I don't
know how much he's lifting, and he does a lot
of commercials and people he's in high demand. But he
still had his team in the Super Bowl again last year,
so it works for him. Here's the key. What happens
when he's thirty five or thirty four. Maybe it doesn't matter,
maybe he'll be maybe he'll want to retire by then.
But there is that thing of and some guys are
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fortunate they don't get hurt, and they may be a
little soft.
Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
Mahomes is always.
Speaker 8 (01:40:37):
It looks like he's always it looks like his body's
probably twenty years ahead of the time as far as
a little dad. But it's okay. The guy is still
the best player in the league at his position.
Speaker 9 (01:40:46):
Now.
Speaker 8 (01:40:46):
Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson are charging and Joe Burrow, but
he doesn't look the part, so it's easy to criticize.
Yet he still has success. And Tony Gwenn, you think,
how's this good? And Tony was tremor and played Point
Guarden College. But Tony Gwynn, you know, and he say,
how does this guy hit three forty and strike out
twelve times during the year when that mid section doesn't
look like a guy who's about to retire Yet bam
(01:41:07):
bam bam, two hundred and twenty more hits. Some guys
that just it's just different, And I think Mahomes maybe
that guy. But the question is really going to be
as he moves on two or three years and the
hits start to mount, what does he do in the offseason?
You watched a guy like Brady, who's always been a
little more sinewy, right, but you know how he stayed
ahead of it. His off season commitment was every bit
(01:41:29):
as much as it was watching tape during the season,
even though he wasn't carved out of stone. Because you
remember seeing Brady's body when he came out Combine, people
were like, man like the underwear Olympics is a right
pat And yes, and guess all three of those guys
as durable as you will ever see. Now, we've also
seen guys that are jacked up and yoked up that
(01:41:49):
are hurt all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
So it may not be. And it's I think it's
to me.
Speaker 8 (01:41:53):
When you attack a guy like that, you better understand
what you're attacking and why and see the history of
his success because right now, this saint. The last time
Mahomes shown up and people look at him and say,
got a little bit of a dad bod, you've seen it.
He's doesn't look like he's ashamed of it because he
didn't care. But he's had success. So I'm not arguing
with success. If a guy throws sidearm but can be successful,
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why the hell would I change it. It's the same
thing here, but he himself is going to have to
start to watch as he gets a little older the
off sea, because what happens is they're tough. You heard
Sean Casey, guy who's a world class athlete, a baseball player.
As you get a little older, the recovery's tougher and
the rehab suffer.
Speaker 1 (01:42:31):
The off seat.
Speaker 8 (01:42:31):
Guys don't retire because they don't like football season. Guys
retire because the off season grind to stay in condition
to play. Unlike the old days, you'd show up to
get in shape. That's not the case in mahomes case.
It's just different. If you ever think you're going to
see Mahomes be Charles Atlas where he's just jacked and
yoked and carved out of stone. Granted that's not happening,
but it's worked for him. So until it doesn't work
(01:42:54):
for him, I would suggest you probably lay away from this,
stay away from the now. If you start seeing bad reads,
can't step away out of the pocket because he's a
little just a step behind, then you can start the
is it because he's out of shape? But right now
now you got to now if you're the broadcast that
you're talking about, now it's flipped on you that you
turn came back to you. And now if he goes
(01:43:16):
out and plays like the MVP, then what so and
he's capable of doing that?
Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
No Jack Lalane, right, he is no Jack Laline. We're
gonna do I need to see an NFL player in
a one piece like Jack with a belt on, right, Yeah,
so it is and it's workout show is this a
hockey game? Right now?
Speaker 8 (01:43:33):
If he shows up and performs, not Jack Lulaane but
Mahomes and it's like he's a step slow, like you
saw Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins a step slow after
Achilles injuries. Yeah, not out of being out of shape,
but Achilles injuries. If you're a step slow just because
you are a little soft, and he's a little soft
in the midst it's a little bit, and that's okay.
Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
It works for him.
Speaker 8 (01:43:55):
Pat likes to party, tell you what, Andy Reid and
ain't getting the way his play calling is it And
he's still gonna have that burger and he loves it,
and he'd affected his mind and he's the most brilliant
play caller in the league.
Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
So it works for them.
Speaker 8 (01:44:08):
The key is three years from now while it still
work and Mahomes knows his body and maybe he's just
got all of the buys. That's never gonna look now.
The key is what's it gonna look like post Maybe
he'll get down to two hundred and just be trimmed
like a lot of guys are. But it's just kind
of it works for him and until until he's not successful.
The truth of the matter is do you really care?
But that's just a nice hot take to go attack
(01:44:28):
Mahomes because you want to. If he drinks beer and
if he eats Taco bell and keeps bringing me to
the Super Bowl, eat three of them, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
You get to deal with that.
Speaker 8 (01:44:39):
The question is gonna come if his production starts to fall,
And the argument also you're gonna see is their production
offensively has fallen off the last couple years. I don't
think it's just necessarily because some guy thinks Patrick Mahomes
is fat, out of shape. I think that's probably a
little hyperbolic. But if you're also on the other side
saying you're gonna see him where he's doing modeling pictures
(01:45:00):
with shirtless and you're probably not going to see that
anytime soon, either projection.
Speaker 7 (01:45:04):
Is a real thing. It just it kind of cracks
me up. Like you know, see a hot chick on Instagram,
somebody oh she used to be hotter? Oh really, because
you couldn't even dream buddy up to click on these pictures,
and I'm like, come on.
Speaker 8 (01:45:17):
Man, it's the same guy when their quarterback in the
city throws three interceptions and somebody who I'm not saying
you needed to play to call it, but some guy
will say, oh, that guy sucks, he can't play quarterback.
And then you simply ask them to show them your tape,
meaning his tape, and that ends the conversation. Like I've
said before, it's real easy to, like I said, to
(01:45:37):
criticize but from a distance, but when it comes back
a year, it's like, oh boy, gotta be careful with that.
So that's that's the society we live in. And if
you're Ma Hoomes, you really don't care what the guy
said because you're doing it and he's watching it and
paying for his ticket.
Speaker 7 (01:45:50):
Now, all I got to say is, if you're going
to throw the stones, brother, you better have that armor
to be able to protect your summer, and you better have.
Speaker 8 (01:45:56):
Bulletproof windows because it's coming back your way. There's no
doubt about it.
Speaker 7 (01:46:00):
Yamp Duck for cover, Susie Brandon, see all right there,
get you guys involved. Seven one three, two one two five,
seven ninety. The Astros topic conversation always front of mine.
If you want to jump in on that, we can
do that. Don't forget to Astros.
Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
GM.
Speaker 7 (01:46:13):
Dana Brown gonna join us in less than an hour
for his Wednesday visit here on the Sean Salisbury Show
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
The seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
Listener line in the eight o'clock hour is presented by
one eight hundred car Cash Chumps. Oh yeah no, but
who was the player?
Speaker 8 (01:46:27):
Oh Chet Hulker. Okay, yeah, Chester. I was thinking here
too because Ban Carol the day before got his two
thirty nine or two forty, right, So Chester, Yeah, to me,
if it's two now, you can make up to two seventy.
But the two forty or two fifties fully guaranteed. But
do I need to say fully if it's I mean, hey,
two hundred and forty million guaranteed? My thought process is
(01:46:48):
the whole thing's guaranteed, right, and isn't In basketball and
in baseball, this is a rhetorical question.
Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
Aren't they all fully guaranteed? Get ball?
Speaker 8 (01:47:00):
I think there's a little bit of a wiggle room
base maybe in a ten day deal, right, but yeah.
But if all of a sudden, I sign tomorrow with
the Boston Red Sox and my name or Alex Bregman
gets a new deal with Boston and it's for two
hundred and thirty million, I'm just using him as who.
Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
I don't care who it is. Isn't that all guaranteed?
So do I need the word fully? Well? I mean
that's just sick.
Speaker 7 (01:47:25):
Two hundred thirty million dollars guaranteed where it's you know, okay,
if it's guaranteed, isn't that isn't that fifty million?
Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:47:31):
If it's two hundred and thirty million guaranteed but worth
two fifty sain, it's two hundred and thirty million of
it's fully guaranteed, and the other twenty million that he
can earn isn't just because it's because it's instantly.
Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
If it's two hundred and thirty guaranteed, then it's two
hundred and thirty guaranteed with a chance to.
Speaker 8 (01:47:45):
Stay damned, with a chance to make twenty million more. Yeah,
I understand semantics and stuff, but I just I've always said, well,
in basketball and baseball, for the most part, I believe
when you sign a contract, that's the money you're getting.
In football, I understand the well, two hundred and thirty
or two hundred and ten million of the two fifties guaranteed.
(01:48:06):
The other forty million dollars, I mean, we don't even
need to say it, because two hundred and ten so
forty million of it isn't whatever that is.
Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
And then if you're fully guaranteed.
Speaker 8 (01:48:13):
To forty but can make two sixty or two fifty,
you're telling me that the other ten to twenty million
dollars is incentive based and that's not guaranteed. And I
think that we should be able to figure that out.
Once there's a discrepancy from two forty to two sixty.
Just tell me the two forty is guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (01:48:26):
We're good to go.
Speaker 7 (01:48:27):
We just stopped doing the same things over and over
again just because we've been doing this in business.
Speaker 1 (01:48:32):
No, we don't have to do that. In this business.
Speaker 7 (01:48:34):
It's either worre two hundred and fifty million dollars guaranteed
or it's not right.
Speaker 8 (01:48:38):
It's it's it's that simple. Yeah, And it's guaranteed fully.
Fully's just redundant. Yes, Guarantee is the essence of if
it's guaranteed. If I say, I guarantee you Dan, we're
gonna go get a burger after this?
Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
Oh, I like it.
Speaker 8 (01:48:52):
But if I say that, do I need to say
it's fully guaranteed that I'm going to get a burger
after this?
Speaker 9 (01:48:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
Guaranteed actually is fully, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (01:48:59):
Yeah, I just afterwards, I won't criticize somebody for their
weakness because I'm gonna have a weed issue of my own.
Speaker 9 (01:49:04):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
All you should for a good burger. We all should.
But yet I'm with you.
Speaker 8 (01:49:09):
I know it's a little nitpicky, but I'm with you.
It's like, if it's guaranteed fully, Once it's guaranteed, I know,
then you could tell me the other twenty million is
incentive base that I know that's not guaranteed unless you
reach them and play the certain number of snaps in football,
or pitch a number of innings in baseball, or if
you play a number of minutes in basketball, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
But yeah, guaranteed, it's a good word, fully guaranteed yep,
cracks me up.
Speaker 7 (01:49:33):
Someone three two and two five seven to ninety ladies
get to the front of line. Here on the Sean
Salisbury Show, Susie clear Lake, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
Good morning, Good morning guys.
Speaker 10 (01:49:43):
I just wanted to weigh and on. You know, it's
frustrating that right now it seems like half our team
is from Sugarland, you know, the treumels and the shorts
and et cetera. Excuse me, I.
Speaker 9 (01:49:54):
Brought them doing my morning exercise.
Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
But uh so I'm looking.
Speaker 10 (01:50:01):
Hitting that and actually the Astros not not my last
obviously three days, but the Astros lead all a major
league hitting two sixty one.
Speaker 9 (01:50:10):
I was shocked. So that's there's that now.
Speaker 8 (01:50:16):
I mean, it is worth a lot, and and do
you appreciate the correct Your problem is when I say
your problem, you're you're you're uh, it's not even a gripe.
Your concern is that it's not coming from certain bodies
you wanted to come from Bingo, and mine was that
it's actually coming that you're actually getting more production from
guys you didn't. So it kind of bounces it out
(01:50:36):
and it's a great number. They're leading patting it and
think that they're doing that without Jordan hitting. Pain is hurt,
but his obviously comes into play because he's qualifying it
Pats and he's played most of the season. But you're
getting unbelievable play from Cam Smith, Jake Myers, guys now
two base picking it up.
Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
So it's a great point that you rob Peter. Now
you're paying Paul, you rob Peter with these.
Speaker 8 (01:50:58):
You these guys that weren't expected to do their thing
are doing it, and the guys you did aren't.
Speaker 9 (01:51:03):
Well.
Speaker 8 (01:51:03):
Now the question is if at flip flops will stay
there and then the expectation. I also though kind of
like guys that we didn't expect that are doing it
because at some point I think the confidence tells us
that the guys we did expect will do it. So
I'd rather have it this way than the other way.
I would, because if those guys are playing every day
and they're the guys we didn't expect it, you're like,
damn wa the history of the guys like Jainer and
(01:51:25):
a guy like Jordan and Christian Walker when they get going.
Now we're doubling down on it. If it was the
other way, where the stars are going, but everybody else
from six to nine we got nothing going on. Then
it's a problem. So it's a great point, and think
about that. After all this, they're hitting what two sixty
as a team, which you say, two sixty one. It's
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a great point.
Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
It's just it's the optics that bother you because it's
the wrong people in your mind doing it, Dan, And
that's it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (01:51:54):
It's time for the Peter of this team to become
Nick Tarnowsky and start throwing some bangs.
Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
So where to wear a shirt? Right?
Speaker 8 (01:52:02):
So you want Peter to not have to rob Paul.
You want Peter and Paul to go together. Yeah, yeah,
I get it, man, Then you get it. But it's
a great number. But I'll take those guys that aren't
supposed to be here that are raking and as you
can what as Rake Myers is what we literally call him.
Now take care of his business because at some point
my confidence would be I expect that Jordan Alvarez when
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he comes back, is going to hit. History tells me.
But twenty twenty five is different. Maybe this is the
way it's going to be in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (01:52:30):
Time for you to start throwing that mouth you one
into the pond and then they get back out and
you lay a couple of rounds of bangs on him
and then you bear.
Speaker 8 (01:52:38):
Yeah, then you supplex him. Oh yeah, yeah, good supplex.
What about the pile drive? Did you land the pile driver?
Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
I think that was gonna be next? Okay, I think
if the buddy says set him but that was done,
set him back? Yeah, I think.
Speaker 7 (01:52:50):
I think if the buddies or a power bomb, a
good power bomb, I think would have happened.
Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
Ja.
Speaker 8 (01:52:55):
Yeah, one more approach and the guy might have been
piled drives or yeah, it would have been over. But
he was getting sized up too much with the right
hand man.
Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
They're straight right. It was a fun watch.
Speaker 8 (01:53:06):
Some guys you just realized need an ass whooping, and
then you didn't feel bad for the guy because he
just he begged for more.
Speaker 1 (01:53:11):
He was about to hit him with the d d T.
What's that? Oh that's sweet? You know the headlock a
little bit? Nolan Ryan? Yeah, okay, Nolan Ryan. On then
you and then you fall back and oh yeah, the
guy's head that's a wrestling Yeah, you got him, You
got him. You fall back and you land and you're
kind of cushing his fall, but you got him and
a headlocks. Yeah, there you go. I got you.
Speaker 8 (01:53:30):
That's a good wrestling. But I don't watch enough wrestling,
but I'm with you. I still remember them all.
Speaker 9 (01:53:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:53:35):
Anyways, Susie, grapple, Yeah, I like to face. Good ground game, Yeah,
grapple good. What do you know you're wrestling? I'm a grappler.
Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
Yeah, you're good ground Your ground game is strong. I
love to grapple. Some guys are strikers. Solid word too,
it is?
Speaker 8 (01:53:49):
He was it in a sentence. Grapplers. Yeah, Triple is
a solid grappler. I got How about Dan? What's my guy?
Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
Uh? Time?
Speaker 8 (01:54:00):
Iowa was great wrestler Dan Gable. Yeah, Danny Gable, Dan Gable,
coach wrestler, all time Olympian, Dan Great. Dan Gable could grapple. Yeah,
you feel good? So could Kurt Angle? Yes he could? Yeah,
as he could. Yeah, the All American man himself.
Speaker 7 (01:54:14):
But as Susie reminded us on our Morning Walk, you
can take the Sean Salisbury show on your morning walk
when you set us as preset number one on the
new Free and Improved iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (01:54:24):
Really nice transition by you.
Speaker 8 (01:54:25):
I do what I can every once, every once in
a while, all right, that's your only transition.
Speaker 1 (01:54:30):
Yeah, every once in.
Speaker 7 (01:54:32):
A while, alri the occasion, not that one, but you know,
any others in and be able to, you know, kind
of keep the conversation going that way. Sometimes I find
the segue and Susie, thank you.
Speaker 8 (01:54:41):
That's a hell of a number that I think we
overlook because it's the bodies that we didn't expect to
do it that are doing it.
Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
I love it. I get it. I'm a bad I understand.
Speaker 8 (01:54:49):
You're not a bad person. It's just a disdained Danny's
got a rears head once.
Speaker 9 (01:54:53):
I like it.
Speaker 8 (01:54:54):
Yeah, it makes for good banter. I told somebody last
night that it would show and I post, yeah, yeah,
you'll go i' four days a week. There's a little
disdain in a kind of segment, but that's okay because
it gives us something good to talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
You drive down I forty five at four to forty
five in the morning. I'm too busy dealing with I ten. Yeah,
the struggle. I don't want both. It's real. Oh, big time, yeah,
big time.
Speaker 9 (01:55:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:55:15):
The saving graces were on it early enough to it's
not overly bad. So no complaints here for sure.
Speaker 7 (01:55:23):
Will continue the Astros conversation if you want to jump
in seven one three, two one two five, seven ninety. Again,
don't forget Astros GM. Dana Brown joins us for his
weekly visit coming up at nine thirty. Also, want to
get into a little bit of college football as this
show goes along. We'll have all that for you before
the close of business. Here on a Wednesday, Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
This is Craig Busy. Oh you're listening to Sean Salisbury
on Sports Talk seven ninety, who have so fun.
Speaker 8 (01:55:53):
You're home with the Stros that Taylor Sheridan bought Cattleman's,
that that restaurant game spent three mil upgrading it and
gonna have for three I think it was three. But
for three thousand dollars you can join a membership to
get you VIP upstairs and you get different. I mean,
he gets special treatment. And I don't know whatever that
is of cigars or whiskey or whatever, but he bought
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that upgrade.
Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
It's right there in Fort Worth, and dude, you.
Speaker 8 (01:56:17):
Talk and he's the steak and it's gonna be a
steakhouse where obviously, and he owns like four or five
ranches around the country that raised the cattle. So he's
gonna use his own. Yeah, but he's got they're all
over the place. Yeah, and he's got he's gonna obviously
use his own beef. So pretty cool. That guy's in everything.
He is in everything.
Speaker 7 (01:56:37):
Well, you do a lot of popular things, usually a
lot of scratch comes your way.
Speaker 8 (01:56:41):
Yeah, so you got to find somebody ranch that's exactly right,
provide more beef. That's right, criticism, that's a legendary place
and form yea been there, lots of staple, absolutely broiled
steaks right there.
Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
And you can even see him. You know, you got
the little stove oven right there.
Speaker 8 (01:56:55):
Oh yeah, I like steakhouse where I can look peer
through the window and check it out and see how
they're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
I do.
Speaker 8 (01:57:00):
He just gives you a little more insight. But Taylor
Sheridan's corner in the market on a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
Brother, Yes he is.
Speaker 7 (01:57:05):
And then you know the one thing too, is people
always point out is he'll feature himself on his shows
like he's a navy seal or something like that. It's like,
all right, Taylor, we get it, man. So you're basically
saying If you want to know how good he is, yeah,
just ask him. But I'm telling you what he pulls
a lot of Does anybody pull more weight in the
industry right now with what he's done?
Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
Everybody want, everybody wants to work with you.
Speaker 8 (01:57:26):
Is an that he's that guy that that fast riser
who all of a sudden and I remember Houston act
in those B movies, dude like he was. He seriously
started a couple of you like like Jeepers cree wasn't
a Jeepers Creepers but one out where he was like
an actor and one of those you're like, make something right.
You're like, is this guy for gonna make it? Well,
he's made it. And while the acting's fine, it's all
(01:57:47):
the other stuff. Well that's that's the lesson that he
taught about. Why he started writing and directing is because he,
you know, complained about his role or something and the
guy said to him, you're eleventh on the call sheet,
like basically like, you're very replaceable, trust me, so do
something that makes you irreplacement, And right now is pretty
good he has.
Speaker 1 (01:58:04):
Yeah, he figured out, hey, let's get into the middle
of America here, and people are like, oh, Hey, I
want to be part of that.
Speaker 8 (01:58:09):
Absolutely, And then when you produce it and put it
out there and ride it, make sure it's a good one,
and you get the right actors to do it. And
every step of the way from the costerners and the bridges,
he's had some people along the way that are crushing
it for him. And that's what, like you said, you
get to buy restaurants, legendary restaurants and Fort Worth and
do it the way you want and make it a
private membership upstairs for a little extra you know, maybe
(01:58:31):
maybe a little extra good whiskey.
Speaker 7 (01:58:32):
Who the hell knows I was going to say, I mean,
knowing from experience at that place, old fashioned bam.
Speaker 8 (01:58:39):
Oh yeah, put it this way, whatever it is, it'll
be done, upgraded and done a little different in a
good way.
Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
Now, pretty impressive.
Speaker 7 (01:58:47):
No, absolutely, head over the stockyards. You know you're getting
yourself a good cut of beef. Brandon and Gary. See
you guys right there. We'll work you guys in here
as we start the fourth hour of the show. Don't
forget Diana Brown going to join us bottom of hour
number Foo right here it is Sean Salisbury Show Sports
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and Brandon, Good morning, How are you?
Speaker 3 (02:02:10):
Good morning?
Speaker 9 (02:02:10):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (02:02:11):
You haven't guys heard of that top?
Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
Yeah? The country singer? Yeah? You want to hear some.
Speaker 2 (02:02:20):
I can see if we can do it.
Speaker 9 (02:02:22):
And that's right.
Speaker 1 (02:02:23):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 7 (02:02:24):
You got a lot of pool triple leis, so I trust,
I trust your abilities.
Speaker 9 (02:02:31):
Gebuary did you hear that.
Speaker 1 (02:02:33):
There you go, loud and clear. He's got you.
Speaker 9 (02:02:39):
Can you play the things when I was buying.
Speaker 7 (02:02:43):
I'm sure, I'm sure he'll be good. What do you
got on these astros, Brandon? Yes, we do, Brandon. We
also need, you know, hitting with runners in scoring position.
That's huge. We need some of that, Brandon. Can you
help us with that?
Speaker 1 (02:02:57):
Yes, I can do it in my game.
Speaker 9 (02:02:59):
Waiter.
Speaker 1 (02:02:59):
Okay, well there you go.
Speaker 7 (02:03:01):
Well if you do it in your game, then we
know how it's going to translate over to uh the
uh game tonight. But not only with them. You get
the Rangers coming in town. We got to hold them off.
Speaker 1 (02:03:10):
Brandon. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (02:03:13):
I'm going to the game Saturday.
Speaker 1 (02:03:16):
Sweet. Okay, we'll have fun man and bring them awain.
Speaker 9 (02:03:21):
Hey, I will.
Speaker 1 (02:03:22):
All right, man, we'll talk to you later, Okay, see
tomorrow morning. Awesome. All right. I appreciate it, man. He
know what's a little zach top? Yeah? He does. I
got it for him?
Speaker 7 (02:03:31):
Okay, yeah, like it. I mean I think it was
playing in the background. I just I don't know the
song exactly. Yeah, Like when it comes to that, like,
there's there's a reason I have to use Sam I couldn't.
Speaker 8 (02:03:40):
I mean, I heard the muse, but I couldn't hear that.
I couldn't quite hear what it what song by Zack
Top it was?
Speaker 7 (02:03:47):
Remember, I said to speaking of country music artists, of
somebody that I want to get on the air, I
think we've got legs Parker McCollum. Really yeah, So if
there is, if there is an update to add to that,
I will add it at the appropriate time.
Speaker 1 (02:04:02):
But I do believe that be nice.
Speaker 8 (02:04:04):
It would be sports fan who's got it, who's crushing
it on U in his uh, in his career.
Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
So that's awesome to see.
Speaker 7 (02:04:12):
And now you got the you know, buckle up for
Safety Texas commercials with him in there and the guy
asked him, hey, well you sign my dashboard. He's like,
I have signed weirder. Yeah, I'm sure, Yeah, sure he has.
That's why I love once, you know. I was listening
to an interview with Luke Brian and he was talking
about doing those outdoor summer country festivals and doing the
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meet and greets with fans and you got guys that
are in tank tops.
Speaker 1 (02:04:36):
He said.
Speaker 7 (02:04:36):
He finally got to a point where it was hey,
you stand there, I'll stand here. All right, there we go,
let's shake hands.
Speaker 1 (02:04:42):
Okay. Yeah, he was like the uh.
Speaker 8 (02:04:44):
Give you some dap with it that I don't want
to and no hugs because your sweaty pits or who
go around me?
Speaker 9 (02:04:50):
What it was?
Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
Who was? Who was the magician for years in Las
Vegas Field?
Speaker 7 (02:04:56):
Yeah, so buddy of mine. They they got a meet
and greet afterwards, did it with stipulations? It was how
was the show?
Speaker 9 (02:05:02):
All?
Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
The show was great? You stand there, he stands there.
That's that's that's the way it works. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:05:07):
Yeah, he might make you disappear if you don't. I
was going to say, you're gonna watch out. Make sure
make sure you're not on the spaceship that he brings in.
Speaker 8 (02:05:14):
Press the digitation slider hand, for instance, used in a
sentence the best play action teams have a great press
the digitator. You can play action slide a hand. Make
it look like it's how.
Speaker 1 (02:05:29):
To spell that?
Speaker 8 (02:05:30):
There you go, I mean I know how to spell press.
I'm assuming press the digitation is.
Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
P r E S.
Speaker 10 (02:05:39):
T.
Speaker 1 (02:05:41):
Is it an I or an A press I G
A I T A T I O N.
Speaker 8 (02:05:47):
Does that make sense? Press the digitation p R E
s press T I T no no T I T
press to digch that'd be T I G I T
A T I win. That's what I'm going with. We'll
go with it, all right, Well, I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 1 (02:06:04):
You get to move on.
Speaker 8 (02:06:05):
Now you've learned something today. Present digitation means slight of hand,
which is magicians about that. I'm just you know, sometimes
you just got to teach. Now, you know what I'm saying.
I was taught that lesson a long time ago. What
the hell's pressed digitation?
Speaker 1 (02:06:17):
And now you see it? And now I seem to
hear it more often.
Speaker 8 (02:06:20):
But I'm waiting for a broadcaster to say, man, the
pressed digitation with Peyton Manning was great at it. Bloomeris
size and great at and it matters. Those guys that
can use that pressed digitation on their play action make it,
make it different, difficult for defense. Just like a good uh,
a good magician doesn't not only give up their secrets,
but you don't really know what they're doing because it
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is slight of hand.
Speaker 1 (02:06:42):
It's like Chris Angel and all that. How's that guy flying?
Where's he been? I think I saw him randomly like
pop up on something. With Fox Nation.
Speaker 7 (02:06:51):
But aside from that, like, yeah, he's he's not floating
around on golf courses anymore doing anything like that.
Speaker 8 (02:06:56):
It's been a minute since I've seen him, like David different.
There you go, only doing all the hudinis.
Speaker 1 (02:07:01):
That's right, That's exactly right. It's gonna say, you know,
Magic needs to make a comeback. Maybe it will. Gary
and spring on's the way and Gary, good morning.
Speaker 11 (02:07:10):
Hey, good morning guys. Uh, I've never heard of did
he say zach Top? I've heard of zz Top, but
never never zach Top.
Speaker 8 (02:07:18):
Zach Top is a popular country in western Uh, Simonie
pretty much a newcomer right now. But he's killing it.
And he's turn on, turn on to turn onto. Why
two countries? I you'll hear a bunch of cuts by him.
So there you go and bus you.
Speaker 11 (02:07:30):
Hey, let's two things I wanted you and you hit
on it right at the end there with Brandon. It
was the biggest thing last night why they didn't win
was uh, runners left in scoring.
Speaker 1 (02:07:41):
Position obviously what was that? How many ways? Was that outrageous?
Whatever the number was?
Speaker 11 (02:07:46):
But anyway, second thing I want to talk about was
Bill Belichick May being an old guy, I can identify
with what he's doing. Uh, But when I heard it,
I just got that bitter beer face on it because
I just it just.
Speaker 1 (02:07:58):
Didn't feel right with me. But that's okay, that's just
my opinion. Uh.
Speaker 11 (02:08:03):
But one other thing, just to kind of pull a
plug on that thing, is if he wasn't rich and famous.
Speaker 1 (02:08:09):
Uh, do you guys think that she would she.
Speaker 9 (02:08:11):
Would be with him?
Speaker 11 (02:08:13):
I don't know it, and I don't really blame him though,
because if I was rich and famous, I would I
would probably want some smooth, unwrinkled skin hanging around with.
Speaker 1 (02:08:21):
Me too, Gary picture Garry. I think I think that
they she loves him. Oh God, I hope so.
Speaker 11 (02:08:32):
She loves She loves parts of him, parts of him
she can see and and it's probably green and other parts.
Speaker 8 (02:08:41):
If there's something she doesn't love about him, she'll get
over it quickly with his Uh when when she knows
the it's kind of nice.
Speaker 11 (02:08:47):
Question, but you know what, he doesn't care what we think.
It's his money and he probably loves her too, So
more power to him.
Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
Amen.
Speaker 9 (02:08:54):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (02:08:55):
Oh he loves her. I'm sure of it. I'm sure
there you go. Appreciate it. Gary, catch up with the letter,
appreciate it? Yeah, no, you know what that is?
Speaker 7 (02:09:03):
That's uh going to a certain club there, dude, I
think she's really into me. Oh really has nothing to
do with the ones you got in your pocket?
Speaker 1 (02:09:11):
Who knew?
Speaker 8 (02:09:11):
What if she loves him? What if she loves him?
What if all of a sudden it was just like, man,
I love his personality. He's hot, Well, then get good
at he's a great love maker. Hey, how'd you meet?
Maybe he maybe he uses his X and O. It's
a different way with her, and it seems like he does.
He applies kisses and hugs as post x's and o's.
Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
I mean, you know.
Speaker 7 (02:09:34):
Julian Edelman brought up a good point where it was, oh,
can he relate to uh to young people? Well, I
think he's showing you, at least at least one that
he can every day every day apparently. So good on Bill, Okay,
good on Bill. You just you're mad at him for what.
I don't know why, because you don't want him to
You don't want him.
Speaker 1 (02:09:50):
To be in love. Let Bill have love.
Speaker 7 (02:09:52):
Man, he can be happy all he wants. It's just
you know, when you see someone's ruining your life and
it's pretty evident. Then then then it becomes an issue.
Speaker 1 (02:10:01):
I guess he probably thinks that he can deal with
whatever path they go on. Good on him.
Speaker 7 (02:10:05):
Well see if the kids can too. Yeah, and we'll
go for evident. They're not a big fan.
Speaker 1 (02:10:10):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 8 (02:10:11):
I would say, when you're gonna marry or dating somebody
that's a lot younger than your own kids, it's probably
a little bit of point of contention at times. But hey,
because they have their mom as well, Hey, what are
you gonna do? People fall in and out of love,
and we'll go find out if this is love. Eventually
it'll be rid'll rear its head if it is, or
if it's for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 7 (02:10:32):
Right, I got I've got odds on the under. Okay,
five years done over, finished under. Probably even at the
end of this year, you're done. You think take the under.
So five years for you is almost to guarantee you're
taking the under that it's over. Yeah, I'm gonna take
the over. They're in it for the long haul.
Speaker 1 (02:10:52):
You'll see how well it's going with how well this
Carolina football season is going.
Speaker 8 (02:10:55):
Yeah, see how yeah, how she deals with a few
how they deal together with a couple through three game
losing streak or something.
Speaker 1 (02:11:01):
Yeah, that'll be a test.
Speaker 8 (02:11:02):
He's got to actually work. I can actually be there
as we all kid around. I always hope that, you know,
for whatever even works out.
Speaker 1 (02:11:07):
It's an odd watch, you know, and it's it's it's
a little uncomfortable, but especially when you're a guy like
me has got a twenty nine year old daughter, you
know the other side of things are like, but listen,
if it make it, I don't really care as long
as I mean, in North Carolina, I'm sure what they
care about is can you can you guys together get
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us wins and less losses? But you know, who the
hell knows? But you're probably right. I wonder if the
real reason they're together was for a good reason, But
who knows. I mean, I understand his point. Nothing to
do with him being a multi time suable winning coach.
Speaker 8 (02:11:43):
Probably not in pub and money and that a lot
of them, I'm sure they have a lot of to
talk about, small talk about. I mean, you know, when
you've got a fifty year difference, I'm sure there's a
lot in common.
Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, I'm sorrying, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (02:11:54):
I can't wait to talk to her for her all
her her long list of experiences through life.
Speaker 1 (02:11:59):
For sure. Yeah, I don't hate him for it. Good
for him. Let's hope that they don't hate each other
by the end of the season. Telling you, I just
I don't think longevity is in the plane.
Speaker 7 (02:12:09):
I'm rooting for their success. Dan, Good for you, man,
there you go. You know what, you're the optimist. You're
a glass half full type of guy.
Speaker 1 (02:12:15):
Well, because right now that doesn't look like it's going
to be filled all the way. But let's hope for
him it is. Right, Well, some a piece for them.
Speaker 7 (02:12:22):
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Speaker 1 (02:14:22):
Back to Sean on Sports Talk seven ninety. First, let's
bring in Logan wants to weigh in. Logan, good morning,
Hey guys, listen, it's a good thing, he asked. It
was built up a little bit of a cushion. I
don't think. I think that's a good thing, So I
don't think we have to worry about it.
Speaker 12 (02:14:39):
Brown had a little bit of an off night last night.
Speaker 1 (02:14:42):
But he was due one.
Speaker 12 (02:14:42):
He's been pitching out, he's been pitching out of his mind,
so let's let's give him a hall pass on that one.
But listen, listen, here's the thing. It was worth the
price of admission the other night. I don't care give
win loser draw. When I saw that bunt, those couple
of bunths at the Cleveland, they moved the guys over.
Speaker 1 (02:15:01):
It was a thing of beauty.
Speaker 12 (02:15:03):
And my question is this? Am I missing too much?
Our teams still doing it? Is it a thing of
the past? And my two old school? And then a
couple of innings later they had a man on third
and the Cleveland the batter hit it over.
Speaker 1 (02:15:19):
He did get it over all.
Speaker 13 (02:15:20):
He's trying to get it through the right the right
side hole, but Altove did scoop it up and throw
them out at the plate. And I'm thinking to myself, man,
it would have been worth another cold one just to
see a squeeze at that point. I mean, that might
have been asking too much, but I mean it's a
thing of beauty to see both two innings in a
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row they moved a guy over both in scoring position
and two of the best bunts I have ever seen.
Speaker 1 (02:15:49):
The catcher had to go out and look and said, now,
I ain't got a chance.
Speaker 9 (02:15:52):
He slew over the first.
Speaker 12 (02:15:53):
But our teams still doing it?
Speaker 1 (02:15:55):
Am I'm missing it? And and is it a thing
of the What do y'all think?
Speaker 12 (02:15:59):
I mean? It's is it any part of the game anymore,
or are they the only team that I've seen this year.
Speaker 7 (02:16:08):
Or do that I appreciate the call logan. I mean
you've brought it up with Sean Casey. He said that
he thought that it's kind of starting to come back.
I asked about it, but I'll trust his judgment. Yeah,
I mean it feels like it's coming back. I think,
what are your old school Probably a lot of us are.
I mean, it's like, if you can move a runner
over and get him in scoring position to win, you
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do it. It's just not emphasizing. Not enough people do it.
Well wow, and that's practicing enough. So it maybe feels
like it. And Dan to validate what I was saying
about pitching, just one little number. You know, we don't
get a lot of complete games in Major League Baseball
anymore today. Right now, the number of starting pitchers on
pace for at least one hundred and sixty two innings
is seventy six in Major League Baseball, which you'd have
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one hundred How many innings was that one hundred and
sixty two innings pitched back in the seventies and eighties,
you'd have that right now? Oh, that's My point is
it but you're starting to see we consider that a
lot now isn't point so pitching is they're going longer,
which means they're having a little bit more success and
appears that managers and pitching coach a little more patient
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to let them work through some stuff. But as far
as small ball, it's never going to be the way
that it used to where Rod krud get thirty hits
a year of Brett.
Speaker 1 (02:17:21):
Butler laying down bunts. Right, But so I get it.
Speaker 8 (02:17:25):
You think, well, it's guys on second, there's no outs,
bun him to third. The problem is they're not working
on it enough to execute it the regular way. So
in that case they just say I'm not taking the
bat out of and certain guys you're never gonna bun him.
But I think that's there and the but this comes
up every year about the bunting and old schoop. People
want to move a guy over, and in a one
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to one game, when there's somebody in second base with
no outs, I would imagine that a lot of these
managers would try to move them over.
Speaker 1 (02:17:51):
The question is do you trust the guy at the
plate to do it?
Speaker 7 (02:17:54):
That's the problem and that's just exactly and you're sitting
here giving up and out most of the time. When
when's the last time you saw a bunt go up
for the astros?
Speaker 8 (02:18:02):
Uh, they don't the execution of it, and if you're
not working it, it's hard. And then all of a
sudden you say, go bunt and you haven't. You you know,
in batting practice, lay one down, lay one down, lay
one down, starts swinging away right then. I mean, you see, guys,
that's just kind of the bats out there are one
last third. Here we go chasing after stuff. It's it's
it's not you know, flat the old school, Hey, flat
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in your bat? Don't you know what all is? Soften
your hands, all those things. It's weird. There's a lot
of there's a lot of it going on to where
I mean a lot of where I'm sure managers question it,
but I don't think you're ever going to see it
and think things go full circle if you have success,
but small ball while a basin, they'd rather take the
chance somebody's gonna put the ball and play with the
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basit with a guy in second. Most of the time
around baseball, then bunt a guy over, and I think
it's a lot that they don't trust that most guys
can get it down. When your leadoff hitter back in
the day or your worse was supposed to be able
to bunt well, nowadays they're flailing away and letting go.
But it's I it feels, and I agree with Sean
Casey that it's starting to, it's inching to.
Speaker 1 (02:19:00):
It's a bit more of it.
Speaker 8 (02:19:01):
We're running more so people are trying to get guys over,
So you're seeing a little more with a bigger basis
and lack of throws the first place, get him over
and trust and pitchers are pitching better this year.
Speaker 1 (02:19:10):
Well on Hunter Brown, I mean his logan pointed out.
Speaker 7 (02:19:12):
I mean, you know, he has a bad outing and
I don't think too many people are gonna get too
upset with him because we would have yearned for the
outings that he's given us this year about a year
or two ago.
Speaker 1 (02:19:21):
But anyway, we could.
Speaker 7 (02:19:22):
Talk that much more with astros GM Dana Brown. He
joins us for his weekly visit next right here on
the Sean Salisbury Show. The seven to ninety listener line
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Speaker 8 (02:19:36):
Dana Brown joins us coming off two in a row,
and they get a chance to get back in the win.
Calm tonight. We'll get there in a second. Dana, welcome in.
We're having this conversation. We had Sean Casey on earlier,
just talking baseball and the overall, you know, part of
the game and what's going on. He had a lot
of good things to say about the Astros, but on
the overall scope, I know, you're focused on your team
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and you're getting it when it comes to pitching, feel
to you look data that pitching is ahead of hitting
eighty ninety games into the season. Does it feel like
pitchers are getting deeper across baseball into games and that
there's more trust in them.
Speaker 9 (02:20:12):
Yeah, well, I think what's happening is, you know, we
have all these specialists, you know, coming out of the bullpen.
You know, of course the starters are pretty good, and
then you know late in the game, you just get
these guys coming out of the pen starting in the
sixth inning, running the ball up to ninety four plus,
and then I think that makes it a little bit
more difficult. You know, usually back in the day, you know,
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the old school guys. Just say, you see a guy
come in and throwing ninety four ninety five, and I
mean that was a big thing. Now you know guys
are throwing ninety four or one hundred and two. You know,
coming in late, it makes it a little bit more difficult.
But I just think the added velocity and the movement
to the pitches, you know, make it a little bit
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more difficult for the hitters and a lot of time data.
Speaker 8 (02:20:58):
By the time you get to the third time around,
you've already made the change to a specialist, so you
don't get to see You'll go, you know, fifth inning guy,
sixth any guy or six seventh, eighth, ninth, So you're
not getting locked in on one guy, which obviously is
pitching advantage, correct, Yeah.
Speaker 9 (02:21:14):
Because what happens is, you know, once you get used
to seeing a guy you know how the ball is
moving back day, and now all of a sudden he's
out of the game and it's like, oh man, I
got to work with this next guy. And you know,
I mean you have some familiarity with you know, looking
at video and different things, but nothing like being in
a box to day of the game.
Speaker 8 (02:21:32):
Dana Can You're pitching and I understand Hunter Brown, who's
been phenomenal. You know, he grinded through six and getting going,
wasn't at his best, but he's still pretty damn good.
Can you, guys, your team sustain this type of pitching
from starting pitching all the way to hater notwithstanding last night,
for the rest of this season? Is it is it
logical to think that way?
Speaker 9 (02:21:54):
Yeah? You know, the thing is we're going to get
some help from some of our guys that are gonna
come off the il right now. Our guys have been
grinding this whole, you know, first half, and you know,
hats off to these guys of you know how they
have pitched, and you know you're gonna have days like that,
you know the old You know you're gonna have days
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like yesterday. You know, It's just it goes with the territory.
It's a grind of one hundred and sixty two and
you're not gonna dominate your opponents every time.
Speaker 8 (02:22:23):
Out, Dana, what is when it comes to the pitching
and sustaining it in injuries or you can even include
the every day guy, the painias and the Jordan Alvarez
who's the first one back from this injury.
Speaker 1 (02:22:37):
To the injury stuff. Is it Penya? Is it Garcia?
Speaker 8 (02:22:39):
Who's gonna be the first one we see of a
regular guy and a pitcher? The guys we know who's
first coming back off the injured list?
Speaker 9 (02:22:47):
Yeah, I mean I would think it's gonna be Jeremy Pinya.
You know, you know, the other guys are probably a
little bit behind Pinya, but I would say probably Pinya
as of today.
Speaker 1 (02:23:01):
Do we know a time frame?
Speaker 9 (02:23:04):
No, we don't have a time frame. But like I mean,
I talked to Pini yesterday. He's feeling really good and
so you know, he's feeling lower body workouts and exercises
to keep him to keep him in shape, but we're
not allowing him to do anything upper body yet. That
may take a few more days.
Speaker 8 (02:23:26):
With Jordan step closer, I mean your reports when we
hear you know, when you're talking to Robert Ford and
the guys over the weekend and coming. So how are
we progressing? Is it quantum leaps? Is it a steady thing?
Where's he at?
Speaker 9 (02:23:38):
Yeah, so he's not hitting yet. The hand is feeling
really good. Of course, we got the good news that
you know with the X rays, and I mean actually
say the imaging. Uh, we got the good news that
you know, there was nothing related to the fracture. It
was inflammation. He got the injection and so he's feeling
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pretty good right now. And I think you know, right
now he can hold the bat, but he can't swing
the bat. We're just you know, you're sitting around watching TV.
You can you can hold the bat in your hand,
just can't swing yet. And so once we get to
the point where you could take some tea work and
then some soft toss and then we could, you know,
hopefully get this thing moving. But we're gonna let him
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heal completely and then we're gonna get him some activity.
Speaker 1 (02:24:25):
Danny, just on pure time, what do we have July?
What ninth today?
Speaker 8 (02:24:29):
Is there any any chance or is it logical for
us to say, okay, expect him in August. If he's
gonna come back, should we expect him in July? Or
is that just just on sheer timing that just can't
work getting him back in the lineup.
Speaker 9 (02:24:43):
Yeah, I mean it's tough to put you know, a
timeline on it because it's gonna be Look, once he
feels good enough, we're going to try to extradite it
as as quickly as possible to get him back, but
it's tough to put a timeline on it right now.
Until we see him swing a bat. He's got to
feel good the following day and things like that, so
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you know it's gonna it's gonna be a waiting game.
But I would I would sense that we would get some.
Speaker 8 (02:25:12):
Deal for the time of it over that week, and
probably I would also imagine that for that this is
going to be when he's one hundred percent and then
he agrees to But when you guys see pictures and
images say he's one hundred percent, that's when he comes
back in when he's feeling good, not at eighty five
or ninety percent.
Speaker 1 (02:25:29):
I would imagine, yeah, we really want.
Speaker 9 (02:25:31):
Him to be one hundred percent. You know, although you know,
once you start hitting all of these players, you know
they rarely feel like they're one hundred percent. But you know,
when you're coming off a long layoff, you probably feel
one hundred percent for about a week and then you
start to get a little bit more tired. But at
the end of the day, you know, we want him
to feel really good, to be able to take consistent
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swings at intense levels back to back days with no soreness.
And once he gets to that point, you know, then
we can cut him loose.
Speaker 8 (02:26:05):
All right, give me your expertise, which is your the
ability to scout talent, which is phenomenal. All Right, we're
sitting around and I haven't watched baseball this year. Let's
just pretend like I haven't, and I ask you about
Yiner diaz scouting report and twenty twenty five at the plate.
Speaker 1 (02:26:22):
What are you saying to me?
Speaker 9 (02:26:25):
Yeah, I would say that Daz just need to shrink
his zone a little bit. Sometimes he gets a little
bit outside the zone. You know. We had a really
nice long talk with him yesterday about you know, the
success that he's had in the past, and you know
that success came from when he really shrunked the zone
and he stayed within that zone. And really his power
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numbers were really good, you know, when he when he
swung at balls that are in his zone. Now, you know,
pictures are pitching them tough. You know, they get the
book on you and they try to exploit you. And
but Yiner is getting to the point where he's starting
to realize this more and more, and so he's just
you know, he's had some good games and then he's
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followed up with a not so swift thing. And I
think he's on the right track right now. He's focused
and he knows a lot what the pitchers you're trying
to do to him. And the whole key for him
is stay within the strike zone, because you do your
most damaged when you do that.
Speaker 8 (02:27:26):
Danny, You've got Dana Brown Astros gim for a couple
more minutes here for his weekly visit at nine thirty
on Sports Talk seven ninety Dana big sweep of the Dodgers.
I know the last two haven't turned out the way
you've wanted it, but that's why you got four more
before the All Star break. I on this show have
talked about how you have to stay on guard meeting
the Astros. They've got a nice lead, they're playing really
good baseball, but you can't get into vacation mode the
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week before the All Star Game. You know that it's
human nature. The Cavs, well, it's vacation. Well when I
say vacation all Star break, how difficult is it to
keep players in that mindset?
Speaker 1 (02:27:58):
You got to lead.
Speaker 8 (02:27:59):
You're playing good, You've been some injuries. How tough is
it to six games beforehand to get guys locked in
to almost treat it like it's the last six games
of the season and you're in a battle because these
are important and they do count. Where's the mindset going
into an All Star game for your team?
Speaker 2 (02:28:15):
And overall?
Speaker 1 (02:28:15):
What would you say to them to get them in
that mindset?
Speaker 6 (02:28:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (02:28:19):
Two things. Don't take your foot off the gas and
sprint to the finish line.
Speaker 1 (02:28:24):
Are you guys doing both? Are you doing both right now?
Speaker 9 (02:28:26):
Dan Break?
Speaker 1 (02:28:27):
Yeah? Are you guys doing both? For the six games? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (02:28:30):
I think we're doing both. I mean, we had an
opportunity to win both of those games. And you know,
it was a tough break last night. You know, a
ball that was hit out probably don't go out of
most ballparks, and went out of ours, of course because
of the close crows for boxes. But you know that's
part of the game. You know, you're gonna win some,
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you're gonna lose some, and and and our guys have
been in this grind all year, so I'm not I'm
not worried. I think we do have our foot on
the gas. You know, we were down last night. We
came back, we tied the game, and so these guys
are still grinding, you know, make no mistake about it.
You know we got beat last night, and we got
beat the night before. But you know, the guys are
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still grinding. They have to foot on the gas, and
you know, at the end of the day, you know,
we're going to try to finish this thing and sprint
to the break and then take our little time off,
which is much needed, you know for a team that's
beat up injury wise. But I'm very proud of what
the guys has done. I mean, these guys have grinded
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through all of these injuries. You know, we're eighteen games over,
five hundred, six and a half games up in the division,
and so these guys have really really grinded and I
would say they have their foot on the gas, no
doubt about it, and we're sprinting to the break.
Speaker 8 (02:29:49):
Hey, Dan, it doesn't help, like you're getting ready to tell,
I mean, obviously got Cleveland day, but then you get
the Texas Rangers, who are a four hour away rival.
We know that, you know that when you came here,
you see it. It does it help to keep you straight?
Mindset wise? Uh, that you're playing them the last three
games before the All Star break. It's like, if you
thought about maybe taking a little break, we can't because
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it matters even more so because you want to kick
their ass because it's a rival and they're in the division.
Speaker 9 (02:30:18):
Yeah, nothing better in competition, you know, the good competition
when you're you know, you're trying to get to the
end of a you know, like a break or at
the end of the season. You want to play the
best and you know, I think guys enjoy that competition
and they welcome that competition. And I think our guys,
you know, are locked in, you know, particularly because of
(02:30:39):
the rivalry. So yeah, I think the guys are locked
in for sure. And it's good to have these games
right here towards the end, and we just need to
get the job done and finish up strong. And I'm
proud of what the boys have done. That's first half.
Speaker 8 (02:30:53):
Are are the phones ringing yet? Tae trade trade wise?
Have you have you answered a lot of calls and
dealing with that? And how active will you guys be?
Speaker 9 (02:31:02):
Yeah, I feel we'll try to be active. Of course,
we want to do something that really makes sense for
the club. Uh, you know, we've been in touch with
a lot of teams since mid May, to be honest,
and so we've been, you know, having conversations as to
what we think, you know, we need to do to
make this team better. And so those internal conversations that
(02:31:24):
we we have on daily basis, actually we have them
also during the game when we're in our you know,
the GMS box, and so we're always having conversations about
what we need to do to make the team better.
Speaker 8 (02:31:36):
Uh, you talked about proud and as well you should be.
And I asked you this last week or the week before,
and I'll ask you again. Are where you are now?
What's your biggest in your crawl? What's the one thing
if there is one that's bothering you the most not
named injuries right now?
Speaker 1 (02:31:53):
About your team?
Speaker 9 (02:31:57):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think you know, the offense
was you know a little bit of a conversation, you know,
but we've really started to heat it up and guys
are seeing like a lot better pitches. You know. Do
we have some guys that are turning the corner? You know,
we have Christian Walker who's you know, started to heat up,
(02:32:17):
you know, and so you know a little bit a
few days back. I thought like, look, once this offense
start to get on all cylinders and think about it.
We got on all cylinders, yep, and we went on
a little bit of a run and we increased that lead.
We built a little pad over five hundred and so
we've done a lot of good things, and so you know,
(02:32:37):
I just want to finish this first half, you know,
and continue to swing the bats, and you know, some
good things could happen because our pitching has been really good.
They'd been carrying us, you know, and in some days
they're not going to have it, you know, like last night,
you know, we didn't have it. But you know, we
we wrote those guys, you know, the whole first half,
(02:32:58):
and you know those I hadn't been in the grind
for us, and so like, we we want to finish
up strong here.
Speaker 1 (02:33:04):
What were you okay, and I know Jill makes these decisions.
Were you okay with the extra work for Hater coming
back out?
Speaker 10 (02:33:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (02:33:12):
I mean we were one pitch away from getting out
of that inning, you know, of course, and so I
felt like if we got one more opportunity to come
in and get our offense back in there with a
tie game, that we could have scratched to run across,
and so you know, I was definitely okay with that.
Probably gonna shut Hater down for the night. I would
(02:33:33):
think that he may not be able to pitch to
night or not be available because we went with you know,
we tried to grind that that went out and get
them a little extra, but it didn't work out. But
I was definitely okay with that decision for sure.
Speaker 8 (02:33:49):
And Dana, just to validate what you said, the home
run last night, the Grand Slam would have only been
out of one ballpark and that was the one that
they were playing last night. So just so you know
that it's not exactly like it was roped into the
upper tank. So you were exactly right about that with
the with the home run.
Speaker 9 (02:34:04):
Yeah, I mean that's kind of like how it is.
You know, we we we're the beneficiaries of that oftentimes
because we play eighty one games often, you know, because
we play eighty one games here. But you know, sometimes
it's gonna it's gonna come back to get you as well.
But you know, we understand that going in. I mean,
our guys understand it, and uh, you know, we're gonna
(02:34:25):
win a lot of ball games because of it, and
we'll just lose a couple. So it goes with the territory.
Speaker 8 (02:34:30):
It's been a hell of a run the first half.
We look forward to the rest of this one and
then uh coming back out of the All Star break.
Always appreciate your time, my friend, and uh, we'll talk
to you next Wednesday.
Speaker 9 (02:34:40):
Absolutely. Look, I'm fired up. The team's playing well, we're
gonna get these last four games. Let's grind through them
and let's go ask so fans where.
Speaker 1 (02:34:49):
We're heating up there you go, Dana, We appreciate it.
We'll talk to you next week. That's uh.
Speaker 8 (02:34:54):
That's Dana Brown always for his weekly visit and bringing
it and thinks that pain you will be the first
one we'll come back and discuss if we wrap this
up quickly when we come back here on Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 4 (02:35:05):
Ninety and I had to wear factor for the Sean
Salisbury Show, continued.
Speaker 7 (02:35:11):
Sean just to react for about a minute or so
to what we heard from Dana Brown. Expect Jeremy Pania
back soon, even to continuing with some of the pictures
that have been injured, that you will hopefully get back
here sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1 (02:35:25):
And still wait and see on ord On.
Speaker 8 (02:35:27):
Yeah, what I like to It tells me that if
jord On he's still not swinging a bat like we said,
I think about it. I don't think you're seeing him.
Tell August if you do. Secondly, I was, I don't
know if encourage is the right word, but you can
tell they're all in because it sounded to me that
the trade deadline is going to be active because they
want to improve an already good team that's eighteen games
(02:35:49):
over five hundred important.
Speaker 1 (02:35:51):
So I would expect something.
Speaker 8 (02:35:53):
The question is what kind of Is it a wow
factor move or is it a fit in factor move
that we just need some depth in certain places?
Speaker 7 (02:36:00):
Work on the phone since mid May, according to Dana Brown,
good stuff as always. See Sean Salisbury, Triple E, Emmanuel Elmore,
Dan Matthews here with you on the Sean Salisbury Show,
The Matt Thomas Show with Ross coming up right here
on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:36:15):
We will talk to you in twenty hours
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