Astros Lose Game 1 to White Sox, Texans Minicamp Continues, NBA Finals Game 3 Preview, Dana Brown's Weekly Segment

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsby hot.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc Troup's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury Dan Matthewscus.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
One round ball right side, that's right at the second
baseman Rojas. The second for one. My draft to first
double play score at four to six three to retire
the side. So I'll lead off walk, but that's all
for the Astros.

Speaker 6 (00:36):
Go ball's two strikes one away two on swinging this
one up the middle, it's feeled over the.

Speaker 7 (00:40):
Back steps on second, throws to first and.

Speaker 6 (00:43):
At double play will retire the side. Couldn't have been
hit in a better spot for the White Sox, as
it was fielded by the second baseman Rojas, and that
is a four to three double play.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
The one one round ball left side to his left
field again, Vargas goes to second for one on the
first by Rojas at double play. The third round ball
double play hidden two by the Astros. This one draws
the inning to a close. The pitch and that's lifted
in the shallow center. Robert racing over so as a
left fielder been Attende. Ben Attendi makes the catch on

(01:14):
the run, and that is the ball game. The Chicago
White Sox take Game one of this three game series
at dyke In Park, defeating the Astros tonight four to two.

Speaker 8 (01:24):
Yeah, Robert Ford spells out the details for you right there,
one for six with runners in scoring position. And know
that was not the same call called by Robert Ford
or Kevin Ashmfield three different times. The Astros ground into
three double plays last night. And with that we say
away we go in good morning here on the Sean
Salisbury Show. As Sean the Who once famously said in

(01:47):
the song meet the New Boss, same as the Old Boss,
it's pretty much the same thing over and over again
with the Astros when it comes to their futility at
times at the plate.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, when it became a problem just the team they
should be. These are the ones I'm talking about. Man,
My Colors was okay, you know, I mean five innings.
I don't even know how you described the start. I
know we're talking offensively right now, but I'm trying to
think of the best word from a color start.

Speaker 8 (02:19):
No, you said it best. It was okay, it was.
It was a level C performance.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Right for me? And that's I said it was. It
was average. You know what kind of what you'd expect
after two years off, right, that that's kind of the
expectation you have. Scatter some hits, give up some runs.
I think what four of them earned. He walked four
more last night, struck out a handful or a half
a dozen. So it was just some good, some bad,

(02:44):
and then a lot just kind of blah in between.
As far as hitting goes. The ball didn't leave the ballpark, obviously,
I think there. If I'm not mistaken, I didn't staying
up to it all. As you know, being on the
West Coast, it's a for a little sooner because I'm
on a little sooner, but staying up for it is

(03:06):
it can be a bit of a grind. And we
got what ten or twelve of they or so these
West Coast starts going is I think, unless I'm mistaken, Dan,
I don't think they had but one extra base hit yesterday.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
They had one.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, if I'm thinking, I know they had a double
and I don't remember if I missed. If somebody got
a three bagger, there you go. So it stuck out,
is okay? Here? We this is a team that you know,
small ball, but a lot of times, not intentionally, but
it couldn't push runs across the necessary runners in scoring position.
And we've seen the movie before in the past about

(03:41):
grounding in a double plays, and they did that a lot,
which which completely kills innings. It's it's been kind of
Astros like this year. How's that where it's you know,
if they're getting great pitching, they survive it. If they're
having one of those days, well then the other team's
in trouble at the plate. If the Asters are having

(04:01):
one of those days at play. But it kind of
describes how the Asters have been offensively, you know, especially
without your stars hitting offensively this year. Pinya obviously gets
on base, does this thing a bunch of singles and
and not enough runs. And when you when the other
team only gives up too, it's really hard. And I

(04:22):
mean you're only scoring too. It's really hard no matter
who your plan to win a baseball game.

Speaker 8 (04:27):
Yeah, twenty three wins this year for the Chicago White Sox,
you have accounted for three of them, so almost about
fifteen percent of their wins this year have come against you.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
So it's got to feel good.

Speaker 8 (04:37):
And one of those was, yes, a rain shortened finale
there in Chicago that they finally just said, no need
to finish this, We'll just go ahead and take it
and move on. But we'll get to the pitching here
in just a second. But nine hits last night, and
that's all I heard after the game was all the
guys put together. Good at batch, just hit it right
at guys again, Sean, It's Groundhog Day all over again.

(04:59):
When it comes comes to this. You get nine hits
and eight of them are just a single.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
That's that's all you get out of it.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, it's and I know there's going to be those
nights and you'll get the Also, it's a long season.
You're going to have those type addings. The problem is
those outings are offensively are more prevalent than the opposite,
meaning nine runs, you homered four times and a bunch
of extra base hits. You gave yourself some leeway, especially

(05:28):
a picture who's still working his way back. There's not enough.
This has been not only Groundhole Day. We've seen the
sequel in fourteen different very this is you know, Fast
and the Furious, Right, We've seen it time after time
after time, and usually really good movies. That and entertaining,
but offensively. This is this is kind of who they've been,

(05:51):
not just this year, but a lot of times last year.
This is this is who they've been at times missing
out in the clutch. Now we're saying this is about
a first place team because we're picky and because of expectation,
but it is the White Sox. I know they've played
a little bit better, but you expect to beat them,
and you're not going to win a lot of games
with one extra base hit, three double plays and you

(06:13):
know the ball's not leaving the ballparking you're scoring a
couple runs. When that happens, you end up you're just
not going to beat good teams, let alone teams you're
supposed to hammer normally. And they just couldn't pull it
off last night. Yet it's the first place team, but
it's hard to vision staying there if the bats don't awaken.
And again, I mean they've got good pitching and both

(06:36):
ended their thing again last night. So you just got
to spot them some runs and give them a chance,
and you got a legitimate shot to win every time.
And four runs isn't a lot, but it's a ton
when you're only scoring two and it looked like a
team that scores two runs last night with the bat
their hand.

Speaker 8 (06:50):
So you're basically saying that it would be nice for
them to start living their lives a quarter mile at
a time.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
As dom Toretto once told us.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Well there you go, family, family.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
How old I got his family?

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Man?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Family?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Ye?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
So, but two runs will break the family up? You
got you gotta score board the two and one extra
base hit usually is not unless it's a home run.
I wonder how I wonder how often teams win with
one be it serious, with one extra base hit in
the game and the ball stays in the ballpark, I
wonder how often you win.

Speaker 8 (07:25):
I mean, I'd have to get in touch with the
advanced stats people out.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
There, but you know, somebody has it. I don't know
for sure somebody has it, and I'm not willing to
sit there and figure out the bath myself and go
through all the teams something. There's a doubt somebody has
it with the blink of an eye. Obviously, because they're
they're smart and all that, and this is what they
do for a living. But I just wonder how often
teams win. I mean, you have to have a great

(07:50):
performance on your side is pitching, if that's the way
it's going to be. But small ball, you know, you
get less than ten hits or whatever and a double
and no ball leaves the ballpark, you don't win very often, Dan,
I would imagine that. I would imagine that it's an
overwhelming statistic that the other guy wins.

Speaker 8 (08:07):
I'm a big user of the words shelf life, or
maybe it is just one word, but that's that's got
a very small shelf life of a chance to be
able to win games, and.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Two words you're safe. You've got two words.

Speaker 8 (08:19):
You know, I mean, grammar and everything was never really
my strength in school, not a lot of things other
than you really pretty much history where my strength in school, Sean,
if you kind of are following along here, it's a
huge reason why I've decided to do this for my life.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Right And if history, you know, does what I'm sure
you're used to seeing one extra base hit doesn't usually
get it though, Does that makes sense?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yes, yes, it usually is not.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
It would be the history I would imagine, right.

Speaker 8 (08:50):
I mean, you could even go a little bit of
chemistry here, of that's not the formula to be able
to make this happen. You know, periodic table, all of
those we don't.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
We don't have to make a period There is no
perioderiodic table for that. Okay, you're you're gonna look long
and hard, but you're gonna have to you're gonna have
to change your approach science wise. If the periodic table
has hey, here's a here's here's a good one. You
do this, and you'll put this and this together, and
here's what comes out. And I got news for you.
It starts with an L when you put when you

(09:19):
put five inning, starting picture was just average and you
have one extra base hit, put those two farm put
those two mixtures together, and your formal your formula doesn't
come out with a W. It's usually an L. It
be those who saw that last night.

Speaker 8 (09:31):
It'd be those bottom two rows where you're like, are
these even real things? Like you know you used to
see that there where you had the main group up
there of about what five six rows, and then you
had the bottom two of elements down there, and you're like,
I don't even think these are real things. I think
you guys just honestly just threw them in here. And
somebody was able to throw a name on it, and
they want to Nobel Peace Prize because of it, you know,
all those things. But whatever, But yes, I mean mentioned it.

(09:55):
The Astros won for six last night, seven runners in
scoring position.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Haven't talk much.

Speaker 8 (10:00):
About the pitching yet. I mean you touched on a
little bit with Lance McCullers Junior. It was one for good,
one for bad. Well, actually maybe even two for bad.
I mean obviously the two is the four runs that
he gives up, and also the four walks out of
him eight walks all total from Astro's pitching last night,
either McCullers or the three relievers that you use. But

(10:22):
you do strike out thirteen, so it's hard to put
much of it on these guys.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
No, That's why I said they pretty much did their job.
I mean they did, but free passes aren't part of it.
That was going to be the next layer. When you
now add this to the formula, I understand thirteen strangers walk,
eight walk, eight batters done in Well there, either you
give up eight walks in a baseball game, score two
runs of one extra base hit that stays in the ballpark. Okay,

(10:50):
how you play, you're not winning, and guys left stranded
said on base and hit into three double plays. If
you were breaking down the things you don't want to
happen last night for a championship team, you saw a
lot of it. I mean you can't. You can't walk
a double a team usually eight times and come away

(11:11):
with thirteen strikeouts is a good thing. There are some
good things, but we talked about the lack of slugging,
and you know, mccullor's performance was just a average and
expected I guess from a guy who's been out two
years and some good and some bad and some really
good that he's had since he's been back with now
four or five starts, whatever it's been, and you're just

(11:32):
you're just not going to win a lot of games.
But eight walks gets it kind of gets lost in
the shuffle with the offensive. That's the problem too. Offense.
You score two runs and like I said, it's not
and you're still in the game because it's only a
four to two loss. But is then you look at
I say, oh man, you did a nice job. Look
over in the walks calumn, you know, mccullor walking. Mccullor's
walking for them, and go down and say, oh, okay,

(11:55):
there's the other part that we even think about, because
we're talking about the offense being inept at times last
night and well for the majority of it, and making
the pitching staff at Chicago look cy youngish when you
ground him three double plays and like I said, a
bunch of singles that you're not going to win many.
So then to throw the caveat in there. Oh yeah,

(12:18):
and by the way, de oh, by the way, they
walked eight batters. That's not a good remedy or another
good part of the formula for winning. That adds to
the l no question, yep.

Speaker 8 (12:29):
And that's what spelled out a four to two Astros
loss last night. So they're going to try to even
up serious in into a rubber game tomorrow. A little
bit later on this evening.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Good News C J.

Speaker 8 (12:39):
Stroud throws at Texan's mandatory mini camp and Game three
NBA Finals tonight and Indy Pacers and Thunder tied up
at one.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
We are going to.

Speaker 8 (12:48):
Talk with Astros GM Dana Brown coming up at nine
point thirty here for his weekly visit on the Sean
Salisbury Show, but coming out next. It was something said
after the game Sean that absolutely sent me into a
rage and I'm gonna try to quell said rage as
much as possible. Disdain Dan might be on full display

(13:09):
this morning. We'll let you hear that and talk about
it right here. It is a Sean Salisbury Show, Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Coach sark here, touchdown, Texas.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
You've got Sports Talk seven ninety, Houston's home of Longhorn Football.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Back to the Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 8 (13:27):
But this is absolutely one two quote one George H.
Walker Bush. This aggression will not stand. It will not stand.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
You think this is fake news, and you think this
is youse fake news, right, so that's what you're saying
right now. Said, that's what you're saying. You are Jim ostellish.
You think this is embellish. You think this is made up.
You don't remember looking at chip Leydshi and I can't
stand Western Wednesday country music singers and their music sucks.

(13:59):
Ass not want you, No, I don't want. I mean
disstayed Danny, you know, yeah, I mean it just it's
I thought I heard you say. What what you meant
to say was, hey man, country Western Wednesdays are really cool.
I love him and I want to continue them. And

(14:19):
it's a triple you do a great job, but what
came out of your mouth was Western Wednesday suck and
all country artists and their music sucks.

Speaker 8 (14:27):
Ass you felt for the pard Yeah, you fell for
the parody account on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I think that's what happened you.

Speaker 8 (14:33):
Actually, I don't have a check mark, so that that
point is moot.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
But I saw disstayed Danny. I thought I thought it
was you. It might have been somebody else, but you know,
who's counting. I was going to say, how we do
things these days? I'm not sure. Maybe it was you,
Maybe it.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Was well, I think it was the Dan Matthews with
two teas is who you saw?

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Not oh that guy.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, yeah, the spelling is important, the one tea. Then
it's me.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
I mean, well, well we'll see, we'll see what kind
of cuts we get to day and if you're in
the music to you know, sing along or if you're
disdained Danny over there, mad in the world, Yeah, just
staying Danny. So they just felt like that you liked,
you know, maybe a little disc disco, which is great.
This goes great, little more than country, but I don't know,
I'm not keeping score. Let's see, that's a twelve time

(15:18):
dance that he hates country music.

Speaker 8 (15:20):
Other than that, everything's great, man, But that's cool. You're
not keeping tabs, you're not taking.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Let's make this check mark again. Hang on there you go.

Speaker 8 (15:29):
Yeah, No, it's and I am not one of those
who call it country western. I I I straight up
call it country. And this is prime country season two sean.
Once the weather warms up, that's that's lake and river season,
and that's when you can start throwing it up on
the you know, the turtle box or whatever type of
you know, bluetooth apparatus you have out there to be

(15:51):
able to belt out the good times and the good tunes.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
So you're saying country music singers are a really close family, right, yeah,
and that uh lately some of your kin fulk just
owned a few others and you or everybody's still good.
Oh we're still good. You know the song, don't you?

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Oh that's right?

Speaker 8 (16:09):
I know.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Newsic singers, Yeah, are real?

Speaker 9 (16:15):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Proud family, right, real proud fan Emily. Yeah, lately my
ken folk have.

Speaker 9 (16:25):
Me.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah. So I'm just that was part of your disdain.
And I know you said you Hank, you hate Hank too,
but I don't know I'm not sure it was disdained
Danny or Danny Danny Diss. I'm not really sure who
it was, but it might have been you. But I mean,
I guess we're gonna hear some other disdain coming up
here shortly.

Speaker 8 (16:43):
Oh, we're gonna hear as a matter of fact, it
right now. So Joe Spotta last night, talking after the
Astros loss, he was asked about Lance mccullor's junior starts,
and he said, this, come for the sound, stay for disdain, Dan.

Speaker 10 (16:58):
Better job, you know, moving forward to creating more consistency,
getting ahead of hitters, because once he's ahead, he's got
wipeout stuff.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Right for the more.

Speaker 10 (17:07):
Pitches he throws, uh, it gives hitterous opportunities to get
back and counts back in the bat once he Once
he creates some consistency there, you know, you start seeing
him getting deeper in games daily basis.

Speaker 8 (17:21):
Get what he's saying, Sean, Everything he said is true,
But he was asked a direct question about Lance mccullors junior.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
That's all fine and good.

Speaker 8 (17:29):
Why isn't that being said about the hitters, Like, like,
why isn't that answer? Then turning it over to you know,
it'd be nice if the guy that we slotted down
to the five spot in the order last night would
not be batting two oh eight anymore.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
That would be nice.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well, we're close, Dan, just I mean we're close. I mean,
you know once we went when the bats get hot,
I mean, I you know what as I as I
joke to egg you on because you're disdained Danny, today,
I don't know, well, I don't know. I don't know why.

(18:05):
I don't want to say protection soft cell when it
comes to selling you know what's trying to get accomplished.
I know that this has been a team in the
past that believes heavily in the back of a baseball card.
Nobody as we well know, and I don't mean that
smart ass, but they do well. The history says and
the history of the guy at first says, well, here

(18:26):
we go. The history of the guy that's injured d
eight says monster. The history of al Tuove says, you'll
get him in bunches, and that usually happens. I mean,
so I think you're going to get some of that.
But Dan, didn't we at the beginning of the season,
when this started say this is what it was going
to look like didn't we say that at times this

(18:47):
Ye're just going to have to grind that it's not
going to be as easy that you don't have four
boppers that can be the MVP of the American League.
Kyle Tucker, Alex Bregman, Jordan Alvarez, Jose al Tuvan continuous
playing like one at times as well. You don't have
that luxury right now. A luxury is you got at
times a rookie right fielder. You've got you know, young

(19:09):
guys like Melton and Decenzo mixing in. You've got an
up and down with his bat this year now too
that you haven't injured Jordan Alvarez, and when he was there,
the power wasn't there. You've got a guy who's giving
you a Bregman like start at first base in Christian
Locker Bregman normally his normal start here in Houston. I mean,

(19:30):
so you're hell, you've got a gold glove caliber centerfielder
hitting three hundred for a guy that nobody thought would
hit two forty. So it's odd, but this was what
you're going to get. Pitching police hold up and they've
had injuries and it's still held up. A bullpen that
if they continue to mix and match and get the
right mix, can be really really good. And it is.

(19:51):
You've got two of the best starting frontline pitchers when
they're at their best. There's not a lefty righty combination
in the league that they're not at least in the
team picture with.

Speaker 11 (20:01):
Period.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
And this is how they were described it. And don't
we say sixty to seventy games in you kind of
are who you are. That doesn't mean you can't go
on a fifteen game win streak, doesn't mean somebody can't
get hot and the order one can't turn the thing,
or that doesn't mean that there are outliers always and everything.
And it's not going to be the exact way you
say it's going to turn out, but it's pretty close

(20:22):
in this way. It was going to be a grind.
It wasn't going to come and like, oh man, we're
pumping up seven eight runs a game. They're doing that.
You were gonna need a from or eight any or
a nine eighty complete game. You're gonna need them a
Colors twelve strikeout game. You're gonna be in a game
where you can't hit into double plays and can't walk
eight and have one extra base hit and the ball

(20:42):
stays in the ballpark. You just can't do it. Yet
they still they still had a chance. So for me,
this is I don't know what we expect different. I mean,
I know Walker's average and the rest, but in truth,
didn't we kind of think they were going to have
to mix and match to get through this thing in
a division that was tough with good pitching, and that
this wasn't going to be simple. It's never simple, but

(21:07):
sometimes it looks a lot easier. Says they've made it
look easier. This is you better, you better, You better
put a suit of armor on, brother, because this Dane.
Dane's gonna come out of like you're this is You're
gonna see plenty of this this year, and maybe this
is this year's version. Is who they are. I mean,
that doesn't make them bad, doesn't make they can't still
go win because they'll go and they do this. They

(21:28):
may go score twelve tonight, but this is the verse.
This is this year's version. Buddy, pitch great, you win.
Have streaks of hotness at the plate, even though your
best hitter has never got started this year, and it's
still hurt and pitching staff that's manned up, and have
a bullpen that's lights out most of the time, and

(21:49):
and and win close games. But you did. They they
they're lucky. And I saw it on Twitter was a
great point. You're lucky that they We're lucky. They don't
let sub five hundred teams for the most part, don't
make the play. Because they did, the ass would be
in trouble. You throw the ass and say hey, your schedule.
Let's if you cross doors, say hey, your schedule is
the Yankees, the Dodgers, you know, the three or four

(22:11):
best teams in baseball. That's who you got to get through.
If we if we had no leagues, it was just
a free for all, and it was a twelve games
against three great teams four, four and four. They'd win
eight of them. That's who they are. So yeah, thank goodness. Playoffs, well,
stay we hang around any more gimmicks and in the

(22:33):
NBA and a few others, they'll they'll be sub five
on an NFL. They'll they'll be teams winning forty games
in the playoffs. The way we like to let everybody
get a trophy and then oh, let's let them in
to keep people's interests. Let's put seventy four teams in.
Let's put the whole league in the postseason stan SA
tournament type. So, but this is who Dan I think,
without streaks mixed in, this who it's going to be.

(22:55):
You don't have the luxury of the Dodgers where you're
going to go out there most of the time and
and you know five runs is going to be a
yawner night for you. They don't have that lineup, and
I don't think you're going to see it on a
consistent basi this year. You'll get some of it, but
sustain consistency. Expect that from the pitching staff, maybe not
from the bats. This year was going to be different,
and it is.

Speaker 8 (23:14):
It just would be nice to hear Joe spottus say
that about you know what.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
We need to be better possession. I just said it
for him. But let me ask you this real quick
and then we can talk coming back to tease it
for you. You mull this over. Does he really need
to tell you that for you? Or is it just
kind of validation players not the players know it? Is
it to appease us, the media and the fans. Did
Joe Spotta really need to speak into that mic and

(23:40):
tell you we got to be better with runners in
scoring position, we got to slug the ball better. Or
is that about as captain obvious as statement as this
team has other than injuries this year, I've got there
first and they're in first place, So really, I know
to a pe said, okay, he recognized. Do you really
think a baseball man that bright and smart fuck doesn't know?

(24:04):
What else would all of us know? The most glaring
and then the biggest elephant in the room. They do
not mash right now and haven't the whole year. For
the most part. They're in first place, pitching, hitting, sometimes,
pitching most of the time, bolt in a lot of
the time. So what do you expect? Did you really

(24:24):
need him to tell you something that you already know
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knows the answer to. Try unserve any right, unserve any
purpose right. It's the same thing here. You know the
answer to that. I know you wanted validation, but let's
give it. Well, let's both give it to you. It
is obvious that this team is going to be that

(24:46):
this is this is the struggle we're going to face
this year. For most of the time they'll get in streaks,
but it's going to be a struggle, and.

Speaker 8 (24:54):
The struggle is real at the current moment for the Astros.
I got the answer to that. Also, you on the
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Of course he doesn't have to say it. It can
be unsaid. But you know, I was thinking about this
last night. It would be nice, though, with struggles after games,
to hear a little bit more from the guys that
have been mostly responsible for said struggles. It'd be nice

(27:25):
to hear from Christian Walker right now to say this
is not up to the standard. I need to be better,
I need to be able to come through in those spots.
It'd be nice to hear Yan Diz say that, even
though he was responsible for one of the two runs
last night, both of them on sacrifice flies. But the
point that I'm making is, why do we have to
continue to hear this about guys like Lance mccullors junior.

(27:46):
Or the other day Steven Oker gives up a couple
of runs And I'm not saying that necessarily it was
criticism towards him and the loss to the Guardians, But
any other picture, it seems like that there's more standard
that they're being held to than the hit. Like last night,
after the game, Oh, they were good at bats all,
they hit the ball right at people like, I'm done
with the excuses, Sean, I'm done. I'm tired of hearing

(28:09):
he just missed it, Oh he just got under it.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I'm done. You got your.

Speaker 8 (28:13):
Middle of the order, top prize free agent signing of
the offseason. Who's batting two to eight right now and
batting two to eleven with runners in scoring position. It's
the same thing every single time, And if nothing else,
at least for peace of mind, it would be nice
to start hearing some of those standards being held against

(28:33):
the guys that are supposed to be better than the
guys who are playing above the level that they're expected
to be at.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
I think you're muted, and you're exactly right. I am muted,
but I took myself off to the here. I don't
want any background noise when when you're talking. Oh here,
here we go. You bet. I'm a team player, man,
You know that? So what comes to mind for me?
And you may know this, and I think you do,

(29:06):
but for those who don't, it bears a little conversation.
One is it's not going to be fair. There is
a pecking order in pro sports. There there is a
pecking order of who gets it and you if sometimes
it's spoiled, I'm not sans the astros. You can apply
it anywhere, or you can apply the astros as well.

(29:29):
They are going to a backup somewhere or a starter
somewhere is going to need to get more or less
good depending on who there than others that that that
that's why it works. It happens on a football field.
Oh man, man, he doesn't. He doesn't hold that. It
doesn't feel like that linebackers held as accountable in public
is so is the backup corner. You're right, as my

(29:50):
starting middle linebacker is a guy that well we just
don't correct publicly, don't talk about much. It happens. There's
a pecking order on stardom and and well they don't try,
it happens. So that's one. Two is do you know
why they're talking about pitching? It's the same old thing
I always say. When things are going good, what do

(30:10):
you do you criticize as a manager and a coach
why lack of sensitivity? Players are more on guard and
sensitive when they're struggling and you're browbeating them. And I'm
not even saying browbeating neither of you. You're just talking
about hold them publicly accountable and hear from them. But
when they're brow when things are whether it's a seventh
grader or a seventy year old, when people are going

(30:32):
through tough times, you know most I would do the
same thing. I would be far more in the complementary
mode of the struggle people than I am a complimentary
mode of the people that are kicking ass. Why when
you're kicking ass, other people's validation and approval usually And
I'm just getting into the egos and psycho professional athletes,

(30:55):
and the way I've seen it approached in my thirty
years and doing it and covering it, hell forty counting
covering it or accounting playing it is that most athletes,
and you're playing well, guy goes five for five and
two for four the next day and then strikes out
three times Day three, you're gonna you're you're gonna ride

(31:16):
with him, and he's rake and even though he struck
out three times, because well, you can get on him
like all right, chasing bad pitches? Why we don't criticism
is kind of simple for us when we're doing well,
I honestly, god, it usually is we handle it better
because we're not on guard when things. It may not
be the case with every player, but when you're getting
when you're not doing your thing, And I'll just say this,

(31:36):
what good is it for Joe Spotting to stand up
where Christian Wager say struggling? Well, no kidding, I mean
what are we going to learn by that? By that,
I mean we're gonna talk to Dana Brown. Why is
he struggling? Maybe he's chasing bad pitches, who knows. But
the truth is, and when you're going bad, you're on guard.
Your head's on a swivel. Who's criticized me? What am

(31:57):
I doing? You don't take criticism very well. Most most athletes,
I know, when they're struggling and you continue and then
you kick him in the rib cage, then it becomes
a problem. I know that. Well, it doesn't matter. Unfortunately,
we're in a world where it does matter, because well,
that's the way people go about their business. If the
pitching stat the thinky staffs kicking ass, what you know,

(32:20):
they're pretty they're rolling pretty good for the most part.
So even if you criticize man a guy who wasn't
real good with his pitch, his Landsca colors, he just
got a spot and better and get ahead. Okay, you
kind of gave the compliment, but the here's what happens
when he doesn't. But it still feels, Yeah, you know what,
I can live with that going and saying Christian Walker's
just not getting it done in public? What purpose is
it going to serve? I get what you're saying. But

(32:44):
the opposite approach, Dan, I think is bad is I
don't think there's a soul in the clubhouse. And though
I mean he may be hitting it hard, or what
have you. But you're right, and guess what you're going
to hear three months from now. He's hit it hard
a lot this year. If he's still struggling, and if
he starts to rake, guess what we knew he'd come
and do and we knew he'd eventually do this, and

(33:05):
here we are, and then guess who you're not going
to get? Then guess who you're going to just arrivee
with the comment. A lot of times when things are
going back, they really don't need to address it because
it's pretty obvious. I think that's just my perspective of it,
and being around athletes, criticize when you're kicking ass, compliment
when you're not, or you know, soft sell it a

(33:25):
little bit more. Now some of us are different, but
I'm saying, over the course of my career, I've seen
it done that way because coaches have a pretty good
approach of what makes an athlete go, and most athletes will.
It's contentious for them when they're struggling, and we all
point out the obvious as to why, because then we

(33:47):
start to go, well, well, you could you do it better? Yeah?
I am chased, b but I've been in the league
a long time. We'll get the back of my basebook.
I mean, you start to get that feeling. I'm not
saying Christian Walker be like that, but I think when
it's that obvious that it's almost an insult to us
for you to tell us, Hey, did you know Christian
Walker struggling? Yeah? Well, of course he is. For me,
and I'm with you, why those are the answers I'm

(34:08):
looking for. It's not the is he well, yeah he is?
Well why is he still? Is weight that back? Or
you're not keeping his handbacks a little impatient? Whatever stuff
we can see in the naked eye. But I want
the next expertise. That's where I'm talking about with Jospot. Okay,
we know he's struggling, but he's close, He's hit't it hard?
But why is it not falling? Is there something? Is
there any adjustments being made? I get it. But there's

(34:29):
not a whole lot of criticism of the pitching staff
and why they carried this team again. Will starting pitching
for the most part in the bullpen.

Speaker 8 (34:40):
It just would be nice to have much more than
just the one for four night and say, ah, you
know what he put together?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Good at bats?

Speaker 8 (34:46):
Good at bats to me, for a good stretch would
be two three in there, two for four.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Okay, what if I ask you would you would would
you be happy if somebody all when he said he's
had good at bats? Maybe the response from us in
the media or asking the questions should be Okay, why
and what do you describe as a good at bat?
That's fall? Yeah, Well, then if you're telling me he's
got good at bats and my naked eye says they're not,
and you're the expert, my follow up question was, describe

(35:16):
to me, then what's a good at bat? Is it
a bloop single or is it a line drive out?
Which one is it? He fought off a guy and
punched one to right field, fought off, handled one to
right field that fell for a base hit. He's now
two for four and two bloop singles or hammering it

(35:36):
three times and striking out once, hammerd the left field
or hammered the line drive to third base, hit one
into the gap and right center and the outfielder made
a good catch. What are the better at bats? The
two out of five hits or the three struggle the
three struggles of the two hits that were bloop singles.
So if somebody wants to know follow up, it's not
going to hurt ay. But if didn't want to answer that,
have to answer why and what do you consider a

(35:58):
good at bat? Is it a base hit or or
is it the result? Or is it the actual destination
to the to the result? Hit it hard but didn't
get a base hit? Is that a good at bat? Maybe?
So I don't know, So let's be good at bat.
Fouling off nine balls. Yeah, that's a good at bat.
But I just want to know. The follow up question
for me with Joe would be, okay, if that's considered

(36:20):
a good at bat, I'd like to If I don't
consider that good back, explain to me because I don't
know what you look at as a good at bat.
So I get a better perspective, or we get a
better perspective. There's nothing wrong with that question, and now
we get the whys. So, Okay, here's what I here's
how I see it. Now I'm seeing it for the managers. Okay,
you saw that fought off and inside fastball stayed alive
for three extra pitches even though he bloped, you know,

(36:42):
flew out to right. It was a good at bat. Okay,
if that's what he considers a good bat, we'll get
better perspective. That's how I would approach it. But the
obvious is true. We know he's struggling and it's been
a season long struggle other than a few balls left
the ballpark.

Speaker 8 (36:55):
So how we fixing it? That's the next question. Well,
it's not just him. It'd be nice if that fix
came pretty quickly. Ronnie gets you involved in the conversation.
You want to join him? Seven one three two one
two five seven ninety is Sewn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk
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Speaker 12 (37:11):
Let the celebration start or Sewn Salisbury to Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Ronnie, You've been patient, appreciated.

Speaker 11 (37:22):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
How you doing go?

Speaker 13 (37:24):
I'm doing okay, guys. I have to describe the Astros
the way I see him right now.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
As a tweener club.

Speaker 13 (37:32):
You know, you have tweeners in football and basketball players,
but the Astros are tweeners. They can't figure out whether
they can hit home runs or whether they can play
small ball, and right now they're having trouble doing either one,
and I wish they would try to do more small ball,
not exclusively, but you know, three double plays in one.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Night is just stupid.

Speaker 13 (37:56):
You know, send a base.

Speaker 11 (37:57):
Runner every now and then.

Speaker 13 (37:59):
I don't care what the out is, I don't care
who the runner is. Make things happen on the basis,
but you can't do it when you're hitting into double plays.
I'd rather see a guy get thrown out trying to
steal on a hitting or on a boxed hitting run
than somebody hitting into a double play. That's just the
way I feel about it. I like the Dodger teams

(38:19):
of the sixties with Walter Austin and Maury Wills and
all those guys, and the Great White Rat teams of
the eighties with the Cardinals Vince Coleman and Willie McGee
and all those guys. And they only had one bopper
on that team, and that was Jack Clark.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
So I just like to see a little more.

Speaker 13 (38:36):
Aggressiveness on the bass paths rather than, you know, just
waiting for something to happen. And that's what it seems
to me like sometimes they're waiting for things to happen.
And also, I just want to play a plug for
something I'm involved with. Sean, I've told you before, you
know I'm blind. The Lighthouse of Houston has a singing

(38:57):
group that were we've done some gigs places, you know,
and tomorrow night we're gonna sing the national anthem at
the dyk In Park, so hopefully bring some good luck.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Oh man, congratulations, that's pretty awesome, Ronnie stuff. Man. We
appreciate not only as Sharon, but you're the difference you're making,
and he does. And when sometimes when you hear people
mention small ball, you know, the bunting, the base running,
it's just some people like up and arms like, no,
that's not how major league baseball is. But does that
mean you can't win? And Ronnie makes a good point,

(39:32):
unfortunately for those who don't the moriy wills Is of
the world. And when Walter Alston those groups they ran
and ran and they're still running. And he's right about
those Cardinals, and you know that had those guys that
could run and steal bases and put you in major buying.
A single was a double with Vince and Willie McGee
and and Jack Clark was and Clark had some clutch

(39:54):
sitting in the middle of the lineup of mashing. But
that team pitched great, ran and play defense. And so
while I know that the eras have changed, has the
philosophy of winning changed. Ronnie makes a good point, you
better pitch, you better play defense now and put the
ball in play. And unfortunately, in situations, whether it's long

(40:16):
ball or small ball, a single usually scores you when
you got a guy on second and it doesn't take
home run after home And the problem is it's it's
we know this. It's even worse when you're not hitting
the ball at the ballpark like you want, You're not
scoring runs you want and leaving guys fan and hitting
into double plays. It becomes maddening. And then we go

(40:38):
back to me, why aren't we hitting more home runs?
And then thought a small ball makes people ill? Right
the key? And I think Ronnie's basically saying it. They
want he somehow someway wants to stay out of positions
where it's easy to fail, as opposed to get somebody,
move them over, have an opportunity to win five to four.
But unfortunately, the philosophy of baseball doesn't live like that

(40:58):
right now because the metrics say no. But you know,
when you've seen success in the past, it's hard not
to want to apply it to the future. Even though
some consider small ball archaic, but the ball and play
there's nothing archaic, but it still wins. The key is
can you put the ball in play at the right time.
There's nothing worse than being up seven to nothing and

(41:21):
well you get two solo home runs and you lose
seven to two, and they come after the seventh inning
when you get your ass hands, it's like, oh, man,
the guy lived on hits that the warre clutch, you know,
guys that we know that about. And then there's the
people who just rise when it matters, and they've got
some guys like that. But it's just frustrating and it
becomes enhance stand as you know, when it's been a

(41:44):
pretty regular occurrence.

Speaker 8 (41:46):
Offensively, well, I mean, the Astros are twenty second in
baseball stolen bases. They've been successful thirty nine times, they've
been caught thirteen times. And I think the only problem
with Ronnie's suggestion there is that I probably have about
three guys that I can count on to send them
and believe that they're going to make it. And those

(42:06):
guys are Jeremy Panier, Jake Myers, and now I mean
a guy that stole one last night, Jacob Melton.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, and champ Smith when he when he learns, he'll
be able to run because the guy's got good speed.
But the opposite is true that that that's something they
don't do well. You can run on them, So that's
pronounced as well because they don't. They don't throw a
lot of runners out steal on them. So there is
any one of your best base Steelers is playing right
field for the Chicago Cubs, so that's a problem as well.

(42:35):
So it's yeah, it's that goes back to Dan, the
struggles that we're going to see all year. This team
I think is built for hanging around. I do I
built for winning. They're just it may not look as
pretty as you're used to seeing it. And I think
we said, I know we said at the beginning, and
as my vision hasn't changed that pitch well, gets some

(42:56):
timely hitting at some point around after the starry be
in first place, be around, and then do what you
always do, be a little bit more mentally tough than
everybody else wants. The stretch run comes, and then when
you get in hope you are a good pitching and
timely hitting. And it's the way it is for anybody.

Speaker 8 (43:13):
Yeah, it's pretty much going to be the formula if
the Astros want to try to be able to go
deep into the postseason.

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jump aboard For the most part, Sewan feels like we've been,
or at least I have been browbeating this part of
the Astros this morning. But the part that is above

(44:45):
being browbeaten is the bullpen. And last night, even with
the four walks from the three guys that you had
go out there, you get two innings from Bennett Suss
so you get an inning from Sean Dubin and you
also get an inning scoreless from Caleb Ortz.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
So all is well. That ends well on that front.

Speaker 8 (45:04):
And one guy that I mentioned in there, I don't
think he's getting enough respect for what he has done
this season, and that's been at SUSA.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
I think it's pretty obvious too. Yes, I would agree,
and a pleasant surprise. Another thing, did you have him
on your Bengal card this year making a major contribution
to the transise this year? Exactly? That's exactly right. Look
at the bullpen and just think about their last World
Series runs. The names and there a lot of been

(45:36):
as matter of fact, how many names are different, Dan,
I guess we'd go through it. I mean a Braidon
was here right dominating who else?

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Hater was here?

Speaker 16 (45:48):
Me?

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Hater was near during their World Series runs. Oh that
you were saying during the World time, say three years ago? Yeah, no,
when they were doing Dusty was here and even before that.
They there's a lot of different names making a difference
that makes sense, brought in from somewhere else you know
that have come through different can My point is they

(46:12):
contributes and it's a lot of times and we've got
it from starting pitching over the like I've mentioned before
two years ago was a JP France and then renew
Blanco last year to come in and do it and
this bullpen. Different names will talk about how culture affects them.
They come in and they're different, But look at it.
I'm may be missing somebody when it comes to but
on your regular rotation from King to you mentioned SUSA

(46:35):
who deserves more credit and bullpen a lot of times
is like offensive line. They don't get much credit until
they struggle. These guys have been These guys have been outstanding.
I mean you can throw them in there against anybody.
I mean, I don't know the metrics of all the
teams that are at the top of the league, but
the numbers. But from my vantage point, this bullpen has

(46:58):
been pretty much lights out for the most part the
majority of this year. But look at the different names
and how they from SUSA and you mentioned or and
I mean depending on what Gusto's assignment is. I mean,
you go up and down and Hater's been great. We
know who a bray you is. I mean the dubin

(47:18):
said his I mean, look at the names and faces
that have changed, and there's another one and you're right,
and bullpen is going to get their do We just
expect them? Thanks follow you got too anything and need
get six outs? We expect it. When they don't, we
hammer it. It's like offensive line. Oh man, they haven't
given up sack of three weeks. Oh man, that's right,
been really good. But man, the second you give up

(47:39):
sack jump off sides, we're on their ass. I can
chicken on the june bug. Same thing here. So that's
where you're walk with. You just got expected. We're not
big names and it's not a closer, and they've come
to it. It's almost come to expect it here in
the ass. Oh yeah, astros both and they're gonna be fine.
But they they have been able to plug a lot

(48:00):
of different It's the base football's version of plug and play.
Oh that guy's gone, Well it's okay, Stank's not here anymore.
Boom plug somebody else Oh, that guy's not here anymore.
Boom plug somebody in No Ryan Presley. Okay, we'll just
move a guy to the eighth and I mean, oh,
we got a new a new closer. Move just see
him getting choked up over new closure and hater, move

(48:21):
him to the eighth. Boll We're gonna move a break
back the eighth and move Bryan Presley. So it's it's
it's incredible what the bullpen's done. Yeah, we always go
back to focused on the things that aren't perfect, and
we know what that is, and that's production to play well.

Speaker 8 (48:35):
I mean it's also two huge credit to Josh Miller
and the pitching staff, I mean, and what they continue
to be able to do to your point of oh
you lost Ryan Stannick. Well, here's Sean Dubin. Oh you
lost you know, Ryan Presley. Here's Brian King, Here's Bennett Susa,
Yeah right right right, I mean, here here's Caleb Ortz.

(48:55):
I mean, it's the list is end list almost to
that point of the eyes that you've been able to
count on.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
And I mean it's a huge feather in the cap.

Speaker 8 (49:03):
For the Astros, the way that they handled their pitchers
and developed them and make these guys into strong, contributing arms.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Remember when Bret Strom left, the first thing people said was, well,
they're in good hands because he's taught these, you know,
his understudies. But we kept mentioning Strom's name. Well, he's
going to retire No, all the airs on a Diamonbacks game.
I mean, you saw the impact he immediately made with
a Dimonback staff. But we did you ever think of, Man,

(49:32):
it's Bret Strom, it's Brent Strump. Well, they've survived and
excelled even though he was obviously impacts felt because he's
as good as we've had as a pitching coach in
Major League Baseball. He said, he's a legend. But look
how these guys have picked it up. We don't ever
even talk about it anymore. Man, we need to get
him back. Strom needs to be back here. Well, the
respect for what he did, but he prepared right, because

(49:56):
he prepared his guys right to teach it, and they're
teaching it and they haven't missed a beat. They're as
good as ever in the bullpen, and that's going to
help sustain them because they Let's just hope that the
arms continue to give them some length. Especially at the beginning,
and that you're every now and then with your third
and fourth and fifth guy, or if there's a sixth guy,
get a seven inning start out of them, because I

(50:18):
know every time from her and Hunter Brown go out,
there's a really good chance I'm getting in. It feels
like I'm getting into the sixth inning and maybe deeper.
That's the but it'll be bullpens savor and if you
can save their arms. There's nothing I've seen that tells
me that they're not going to have success all the
way through. But the problem is when you get to
the playoffs, you're facing all those teams who had that

(50:38):
same success during the year were all ways away from this.
But that's the time when listen. If you can't hit
trek scuball, it's hard to win in a short series
and you're trying to win a division and give yourself
some distance and give yourself some rest along the way.
I'm not big on everyday player rest. I don't think
they need twenty five games to rest a year. I

(51:01):
am big on making sure arms a arrested, and part
of that is playing your guys, those hitters, giving yourself
a chance so you can have a leeway if if
your pitcher walks the leadoff guy, you're up four runs
and he's only at seventy five pitches in this you know,
in the fifth or in the sixth inning or whatever
it is, and you say, we can afford this, so

(51:22):
we got tax a bullpen. He can. He may be laboring,
but it's just one walk and he's been really good.
And then he finishes the inning, he say, okay, now
we're good to go. That's ten pitchers or twelve pitches.
We didn't have to waste a bullpen arm on. So
it's a cumulative effect, and the cumulative effect will affect
pitching far more than hitting. So if I'm getting a
day off from a hitter, I'm hoping the other guy

(51:44):
can perform because these pitchers are the ones that are
gonna need it, and you're gonna need some distance because
you don't give guys you don't there's not a lot
of latitude in the three to two or four to
two or two to two type game. And then you're
starting pitcher starts to labor, then you got to go
tax a bullpen. Got to score more to give those guys.
It's not just the starting pitching, giving rest. It's how
you play offensively that sometimes dictates rest as well.

Speaker 8 (52:07):
Chicken on a june bug that is one that I'm
going to have to remember, Sean. I've heard of flies
on stink, I've heard of stink on you know what,
and I've heard of white on rice. Chicken on a
june bug. That is a new one for Yep, yep,
that's all of them.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Hey, whatever works for you, you know whatever, just kind of
flows with your with your game. I mean, you're disdained, Danny.

Speaker 8 (52:28):
So it's it's not gonna be for a lack of effort.
We will we will be able to find one because
it's it's right in front of us. It's just being
able to identify it is going to be the next
part of this.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
But I like that.

Speaker 8 (52:43):
I'm gonna have to stow that away, might even have
to put it on the refrigerator as part of the
lists that we've got here. So that's it. That's it.
We'll write it down, Triple, You write that down, all right.
A Florida man, don't stories always seem to start like this.
A Florida man pays for something, doesn't get it. So
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Speaker 2 (55:35):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing on there now?

Speaker 3 (55:38):
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Speaker 8 (55:47):
Be first, the Astros for two losers last night to
the White Sox at Dyke In Park. Game three, NBA
Finals Night in Indianapolis, series between the Pacers and Thunder
tied at one, and the Texans Mandatory Mini camp gonna
get going again this morning, Sean, you've heard the term before.
It was Chris rock In. I can't remember who sang

(56:10):
the song, but the song was. There is no ten
toes up ten toes down in the champagne room. When
it comes to the gentlemen's clubs out there, we all
know that that is a rule that is out there that, yes,
they tell you ahead of time you go into one
of those rooms, you ain't touching the ladies.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
The ladies that that's what you came up. But how
am I supposed to respond to that?

Speaker 10 (56:36):
No?

Speaker 2 (56:37):
I think very easily. They're just you know, fine young
women who.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Are trying to Yeah, they're they're third eleven. Maybe where else?
Go to medical school?

Speaker 11 (56:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Possibly, possibly.

Speaker 8 (56:47):
Yeah, I think that there is an nd out there
that doesn't want you to know about their past.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
I don't think so scared as tea, there is no.
I guarantee there is. I wasn't being all I mean,
I was, okay, I was being as smart ass a
little little bit. But I would imagine there literally is
somebody who was who is what do we call it?
Dancing nuts tribute? Who is dancing?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
That's right?

Speaker 1 (57:10):
They are dancers, their dancers. They're dancers, professional dancers that
went to law school of medical school. Yes, I believe
that that does exist. My gut tells me not regularly.
But you know you got to eat too, got ear
and a living and whatever it takes. Just don't touch
your cans off the merchandise, buddy, A lot of touch,

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right that.

Speaker 8 (57:32):
Those are the rules that I wouldn't know. I'd never
been in one of those things. You let us know
what happens in there for sure?

Speaker 4 (57:37):
For sure.

Speaker 8 (57:39):
Well, I mean, look, we could be adults here. I
did live in Atlanta, So go ahead and use your imagination.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
There you go, that's the day of the what's the
day of the club? There? The top one?

Speaker 8 (57:50):
Uh, for the longest time, it was the Cheetah. Yeahy
is another one?

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, the follies.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Out to a strip, Go ahead, yeah.

Speaker 8 (58:02):
Yeah, Motley Crue in Girls, Girls Girls, there was one
called Tattle Tales. And remember I told you about the
place that we would do karaoke and Hoover It was
the same deal there. It was nineteen eighties, La with
the smog was smoke in there.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Oh okay. So would you rather own a strip club
called the Pink Pony or the White Horse?

Speaker 2 (58:24):
I feel horse.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
I feel like the Pink.

Speaker 8 (58:29):
Probably it's a little bit more inviting not to say
say that white Horse isn't would you rather your lady
refer to you as the pony or the horse. Oh wow,
we know what the answer is there, give you the
third one, the Clydesdale. Yeah, I think the horse. I

(58:49):
feel like the horse. It drives the point home. I
mean the Clydesdale.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
You know, if your lady, if your lady's nickname and
you secretariat, you probably bringing it right, you would say,
I don't know, you got to be bringing it.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
It depends on you know how you.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Got to win by thirty two legs snow clun intended.

Speaker 8 (59:07):
Well, I mean there is that, but you know there's
also the speed components.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
So it's like, wait, what does that mean?

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Well, I mean three minutes is I mean you have
I mean two and a half minute race. That's about
par for you right now. You gotta get it where
you can, man. I mean, that's so you're taking the
white horse over the pink pony. The way around. You're
taking the pink pony over the white horse. That's it. Now,

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that's the name of the name of your dance club.

Speaker 8 (59:38):
I feel like it's it's more inviting that way.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Okay, somebody you said the horse was more inviting, but
you said the pony is.

Speaker 8 (59:45):
Well as a particular nickname the horse gotcha.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I.

Speaker 8 (59:49):
Just I feel like it's all encompassing and it again
it proves and drives the point home. Well in this
case right here, we had the Panella's County, Florida, which
is the Tampa Saint Pete Clearwater area, and it is
the ozy gentlemen's club there near Clearwater, Florida. Twenty one
year old Sultan, and I'm going to try to do

(01:00:12):
his best name as best as possible on the offee,
I guess is how you say it? Well, he decided
to go to the club and had apparently had a
few drinks and then approached security said hey, I'd like
to have a little bit more fun with ladies, you
know what I mean, like not just the dancing, a
little bit of touching aloud, gave one of the bouncers

(01:00:35):
three hundred dollars and he claimed that the money was
to be able to again tin's up ten to's down,
which probably could be tough in the club.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
But let's not get distracted here.

Speaker 8 (01:00:45):
As we continued to tell the story, he explained when
deputies arrived on the scene after calling nine to one
one that he did not receive the services. Upon talking
with them, deputies determined that he appeared to be intoxicated,
slurring his words, strong odor of alcohol, all of those
things to them for only deputies to let him know, Hey, buddy,

(01:01:07):
this ain't outside Vegas, the Saint Nevada, State of Florida.
What you just did is illegal. So go ahead, turn around.
We're gonna do the old Miranda rights thing and uh yeah,
go ahead and lawyer up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Chief.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
So his name's what Sultan, Sultan or sultan, but he's
twenty one years Sultan, the Sultan of copping a Field,
that's what he wanted to try to do. Yeah, he
was not cop Field.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Yeah, he was not the Sultan the swat that night.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Yeah you obey, bruth the Sultan, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:01:40):
King of clout colsp Colossus a Cloud.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Sorry sorry, Hamilton, the bank border.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
When you try to cop a feeling, you know, in
a really classy.

Speaker 8 (01:01:50):
Dance place, you know, Sultan is probably one of those
guys and we've all got that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Hey, man, I think she's into me. Yeah, she she is, dude.

Speaker 8 (01:01:59):
You know what, Hey, you should give her another hundo,
like she'll she'll really be into you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
I mean the guy who's committed to a relationship in
the strip club because of the dance dance club. I've
seen that she danced for him, and the way she
looked at him, he thought she's in love with.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Oh, trust me, I've seen it and it's she loves me. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:02:17):
These are the same people who bet eight leg parlays
and always have their get rich schemes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Sean, always take the over, always take the favorite. Yeah, yeah, gotcha.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
A sucker is born every day and it's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Cop Fields dude. So Sultan the king, he's a Sultan
of cop Well, he's Cops Fields man.

Speaker 8 (01:02:37):
Yeah, he's coping a court date now, because I mean,
and imagine that he's twenty one years old. Gotta believe
that mom and dad are probably still in the picture.
Imagine that pickup. So really, I think it's the dad,
even the mom too. I don't I don't want to
say that that that's my boy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
That that would be so you really try it? Huh,
good job.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
You mean you're paying for the lawyer literal feel Yeah, yeah,
now I got to pay the You know that the
pops got to go out. The Sultan's pops got to
go out and pay five hundred bucks an hour to
prevent him from being in trouble from trying to cop field.
You can't do it right right on the door. It's
like gambling in baseball. In sports, gambling is not allowed.

(01:03:24):
Its illegal. Yeah the door, and that says, yeah they did.
There's a sign on the door. Gambling's illegal at Bushwood.
No pun intended there either being strip club. And besides,
I never sliced the well here it is you can't.
I mean, it says, you know, you know, you can't
touch hands off man, can't be a bull in a

(01:03:45):
china shop at a dance club. Okay, hey, Whitey, where's
your hat? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
People miss that. I missed that for years and I
finally heard it. I was like, I never knew that
he yield that out.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
I love that great movie. What what what a bang?
Or that? I mean, well, there you go. So Sultan, Sultan, Sultan,
he didn't wield a big enough stick. Apparently apparently not.

Speaker 8 (01:04:11):
I'm guessing that probably even the bouncer was just like
three hundred year insulting me sir. Well, yeah, I mean
that's that's probably illegal though, too. I mean the bouncer
in this case, right, here. They can go to him
and just be like, God gave me three hundred dollars.
I don't know what he's talking about. That's the way
I'd handle it. Just be like, man five, I didn't
I didn't promise anything. Well, this guy's talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
I was drunk Hanademy three. So he went to the
Champagne room, you know what I'm saying, Dan, And it
was champag whatever it is it was. I wouldn't know.
I mean, I've never been in one.

Speaker 8 (01:04:41):
It was it was on a Sunday night, too. You
gotta be down bad man. Like. I feel like there's
like numerous times out there of you know, hey, where
were you last night?

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:04:51):
I was at this like Christmas Day, That's that's one
of them. Thanksgiving, although apparently apparently Thanksgiving night is a
huge going out night. I've been told I would not
know because.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Thanksgiving, well, that is the biggest drinking night of the year.
I think because people are home from holidays, the kids
are home from school to see their families. I've done
with my my you know, sons come home from school
and their buddies when they were old enough to have
a beer or when they did. Yeah, the night, even
when if you're not drinking, the night the night before

(01:05:23):
Thanksgiving is a huge night out there. But yeah, man,
you just you gotta you gotta be, you gotta be.
You got to prepare better if you're Sultan, right, and
so you're right, don't depress me like that. Somebody's sitting
in a strip club on Christmas Day. Come on, man, Yeah,
that that becomes a little gut wrenching, you know. And

(01:05:43):
so you mentioned like Sunday night. It's a workday on
Monday for those who work, and Sunday night at like
eleven o'clock at the strip club or midnight just doesn't
seem right, is what you're saying. Basically, I was gu say.

Speaker 8 (01:05:54):
I mean it's it's there's sad existences. I mean that
the sports book or even you know, every once in
a while if you go to certain types of restaurants
and the girls that work there might be scantily clad
and they say, oh, yeah, that's Jimmy. He's one of
our regulars. You don't want to be Jimmy. Don't be Jimmy.
Don't ever be Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
After all this, I need a cigarette. I gotta get it.
So hang on, Dan, are we going to break I
gotta get a ball.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Yeah, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 8 (01:06:19):
I'll let you. I'll let you go ahead and catch
Joe right there. Well, we get set up for some
Texans talk because the triumphant return c J. Stroud finally throwing.
What's he saying about it? We'll talk about it here.
It is Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety. The
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one eight hundred car Cash. Sean, we mentioned it. It

(01:06:42):
was the triumphant return to the practice field yesterday for
one c J. Stroud, and he talks about being able
to try to battle through the troublesome non throwing shoulder.

Speaker 17 (01:06:54):
Yeah, I felt great, man. I'm very grateful to be
back on the field. I'm a little rusty Mason throws
miss throws, but just very grateful to be out there
with the guys and have a time to you know,
compete before we go a couple of days away into camp.
So I'm very excited to be back. But you know,
just irishabinari.

Speaker 8 (01:07:13):
Iron sharpens iron and as CJ able to get back
out there yesterday, I mean there was never really truly
a huge amount of concern. It was more or less
just on this show. We'll just speak for us Sean.
It seems like it was just us talking about it
because hey, he's not throwing. It wasn't a oh my god,
he's not throwing. What's going on? What's wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Is there?

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
This?

Speaker 11 (01:07:33):
Is there?

Speaker 13 (01:07:33):
That?

Speaker 8 (01:07:33):
Is there any other problems that are going to keep
him from being a contributor to this team this season.
But it was just exactly that, Hey, he's not throwing. Hey,
why isn't he throwing?

Speaker 9 (01:07:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
But Dan, for me, sorry, I'm just getting the right button.
So I don't talk to that brother, is it? I
don't non throwing shoulder. It was just a matter of
time and I'll never forget. And I know he's young
his career. C J. Stroud my rookie year, Dan Fouts
and Charlie Joyner are playing and this would be attributed

(01:08:08):
to your throwing arm. But Jan Fouts and Charlie Joyner
are playing racquetball at a gym that we all worked
out that I was the same member at the same
gym they were, So I wait for them to come
out of the rackball. I'm a rookie going in the
league and I'd met Dan before, but I hadn't spent
much time with him. And then and Charlie came walking
out and I simply asked Dan, I said, what do

(01:08:31):
you do in the off season? Dan was along in
his career, but it was going into my rookie year.
Dan was going into his second last or last year
of his Hall of Fame career. He said, Sean, I
don't throw in the off season. He said, what are
you talking about? He said, I don't throw in the
off season. He goes John Hadel once told him the
arms only got so many throws in it. And so

(01:08:52):
what Dan did at this ten times have changed, but
it still applies is that during the off season he
picked the bawling up the camp. Nobody worried about it then.
And he said, but Sean, you obviously throw in you
have to because I'm in a position in my career.
And he didn't mean this arrogant. In fact, I don't
have to compete for that job. He was a starting
quarterback going to Hall of Fame. I was a rookie.

(01:09:14):
Made sense. Now strouds somewhere in between. Obviously he's not
Dan Fouts and he's not me. Third meaning he's you know,
this as a starting quarterback with a phenomenal, phenomenal future
and it's his non throwing arm. It was just a
matter of time. In truth, sometimes that's good, Dan, I'm
just telling you, because there's a rejuvenation that kicks in
and the guys like Fouts and CJ's way away from that.

(01:09:36):
As far as arm and how many throws there's that,
they're in it. And it's his non throwing shoulder. So
it's gonna be fine, but there's just a matter of time.
I'd be more concerned if if you start to throw
and there's still pain and then the mechanics of your
delivery change because of the mechanics and the hurt and
grinding your shoulder. It's like anything non throwing ligaments in

(01:09:57):
your thumb, of your non throwing hand, shoulder, all those things.
It was gonna be fine. Hell, well, what was the
worst that was gonna happen? You have to take another
month or two off, and then he starts getting throws
in July. He was gonna be fine, a little rusty,
but once you start throwing, you feel like, man, there's
some extra jump in late life on the fastball. So

(01:10:18):
I wouldn't worry about it, and people ask him because
your star quarterback. But when they call it the non throwing,
that makes for that make it just that's a matter
of the rustiness. You can brush off when it's the
throwing shoulder and have it changed your mechanics in your
sand Damn the rustiness can last longer. I this minimal
concern for me that he didn't get to throw as

(01:10:41):
much this soft season as he has in the past.

Speaker 8 (01:10:43):
The minimal and that is the only concern that I
have is maybe his workouts this soft season were paired
down a little bit because Sean he was beat up
last year. I don't think they say doubt about that,
So you wonder if that maybe delayed his workouts just
a little bit. So it's kind of put him behind
a little bit at this point, and that some of
that sorenus is still kind of there from the tough

(01:11:05):
season they had.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
But even though it's upper body soreness, then it may
be there. You know, you're still trying to get things
out and the range of motion or whatever it is
that he needed to work through. You still have the
lower half of your own has got a bike on
a treadmill, still you can still drop back, you can
still work on your footwork around the pocket. You don't
need you don't need to throw the ball to get

(01:11:26):
things accomplished. You don't. Matter of fact, I think there
is an advantage at times. Now, do you encourage this
in a ten to tenth grader? I'll play all the
sports you can. But do you encourage a tenth grader
to take a whole offseason not start throwing until he
gets to the training camp in high school? Of course not,
but sometimes, and I know in my career that doesn't. Now,

(01:11:49):
if you if you get fat and happy, it's a
different story. But if you're staying on top of it,
and there's the one thing you can't do, you're not
bench pressing because well you're a quarterback and you can
get back into that. That'll come back. But there's a
plenty of things you can do. And I'm sure they
had him string, you know, stretching and apply metrics or
whatever it is that allows you to lengthen that part
of his shoulder and to stay in shape. But when

(01:12:11):
that happens, you focus on other things that maybe you
felt were a weakness, and maybe there's other things you
could work on throwing the football is not a weakness
for him, and it's obviously not in the throwing shoulder
and arms. So this is the time we say, what's good?
Were many camps good for for him? It's a chance
also to stretch things out. They're learning some new you know,
some new stuff from a new coordinator. But so when

(01:12:31):
he hits the ground running in camp, that initial soreness
that he saw here is out that that wasn't the
first time. But now I'm throwing shoulder was only a
matter of time. He's gonna be fine. And I assure
you timing comes back really quick for a quarterback who
can throw it in receivers who can run it not
a big concern of mine. Plus a lot of times,
you know, you change, you go to you change something

(01:12:51):
in your routine and you get a haircut. What happens
when you get a haircut. It feels like, oh man,
what you do? You lost weight? I don't know what
it is. You feel rejuvenatet get out of a plunge pool.
This is the same thing sometimes where your focus goes
elsewhere and it's not throwing, throwing, throwing, It's like, you
know what, my arm's alive and well. That comes out
of surgery to Tommy John not saying CJ. Stroud, he's

(01:13:14):
pumping at two miles an hour faster than he did
before he went in. Sometimes your focus shifts, and that's
not a bad thing. Change the things up's a good thing.
He'll be healthy and fine, and his opposite, his non
throwing shoulder, will get him back. You just don't want
to take the hits on him. But two guys talks,
gonna be fine. They just got to keep him more
up right this year and prevent a lot of those
things from happening.

Speaker 8 (01:13:32):
And by all accounts, he did look great yesterday in
shorts and jersey tops and helmets. So the pads and
everything else will come later in training camp next month.
All right, coming out next A proper sendoff for someone
in a very symbolic place. We'll discuss that here. It
is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 8 (01:13:58):
You hold in high regard and college football fans have
come to love over the years. We already had gotten
the announcement this offseason. This was going to be one
more episode, a final sendoff for coach Lee Corso on
College game Day. Well, we know it is going to
be in Columbus for Texas and Ohio State, as ESPN

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announced yesterday, And it is symbolic for coach because that
is of course where he got his trademark move during
the picks segment of putting on the headgear for the
game of the week, and he had done it years
ago when he donned Brutus the Buckeye to pick Ohio
State in the game. I can't remember who they were
playing at the time, but that is where they are

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going for his final sendoff.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
It will be a fitting and or should I say
a fitting in sounds so like sudden right. It'll be
a fitting send off to a Hall of Fame career
and for coach, the right game, a great game early
in the season. It's an August game, two teams that

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will be hanging around when the playoffs start. For a
guy who's put that you know, that headgear on not
only with Ohio State but a million times and loves
the place, it's going to be awesome. It's going to
be flat ass awesome. And he is I mean, hell
got there, he was there, left and he was there

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and he's still there, so he's had a phenomenal career.
He was College Game Day and then the time's probably
right for his health and you know the grind it
takes to do what he's done. But make no mistake,
the College game Day was able to They add a
great piece obviously when Fowler and now Rhys Davis and aving,
you know, when Craig James started it, and then then

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Kirk kirk Street has been nothing but fantastic since he's
been on it. You had Dez and the difference is,
you know the add ons they've made of the years,
but the foundation that whole thing was Corso and what
a unemotional day it will be for him for people watching.
We knew it was inevitable in the next couple of years,
but we just didn't know when. And whenever you see

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a legend like that that it's time, it's a bit
gut wrenching, but there's a lot of good times to remember,
and I would imagine that show is going to be
even though it's a huge game. The craziness about it
is there's going to be a lot of focus on
coach Corso and you might leading into it and coming
out of it, he might garner more talk than even

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those that that matchup, which is a national championship type matchup.
So and it'll be early, but coach Corso deserves this,
and anybody that's ever watched College Game Days watched that
we anticipated and tuned in for him, and has watched
the pregame show as there's been. I think it's been
the best football pregame show of all time. You know,

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TNT may have the best basketball one, but it's been
a great run for Coach Corso and I I anticipate
that day because I'll be up watching everything he says
and everything he does, and I hope he's on there
for every segment the entire time because it'd be a
great way to go out for him and to be
able to get into I guess what he would call
retirement by not having to do it every day. But
you know he'll be watching once he's done.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Well.

Speaker 8 (01:17:18):
I mean, far be it from me to make fun
of anybody for, you know, tearing up, because of course,
you know us dudes, we never do that. But two
times that I have watching College Game Day, one of
them involved coach when it was Army Navy and they
showed the footage of him when he was a coach
at Navy, and you know, of course they came back
from it and he's starting to tear up and everybody's

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given him a standing ovation, you know of just you
know what a great career and being able to do
everything on game day. Of course, the beIN segment last
year with Herbie, but I'm going to set it at
two and a half for Herbie for how many times
he tears up because you're good buddies with him. Kirkhurb Street,
he loves Lee Corso and I mean and just what
he's been able to mean the him professionally but also

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personally too.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Yeah, I don't have a problem tearing up Dan, and
I know we joke. I don't. There's emotional moments my life.
As you get a little bit older, it's about moments,
and I don't have any problem. I won't be able
to hide my emotion because of just it's not even
just how you feel about him, it's how you know
others have felt about him, and one of those is
kirkharb Street. And make no mistake about it, when you

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see herb Street on the set, he's really become a
parent like figure for Lee. Corso of course, you know
he'll help him through with his when maybe that he's
struggling to grip what he wanted to say, or help
him gather in his predictus course was extremely bright. It's
just you know, he's a little older now and Herb
Street you know, of course I'll put his hand on

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his it matters to him and he will be emotional
all that pregame stuff when he goes in and talks
to coach, you know, pregame stuff like when he's got
the video on the pre the pre uh the pre
show stuff. He's like, hey, coach, what do you you
think and they're in their private room talking and stuff.
It's just been awesome. It's been awesome and to see
that relationship develop, it will be a very emotional day.

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I've talked to Herbstreet about it privately plenty of times
how much they mean to each other, and we've it's
been well documented how what a caretaker he's been in
the right way, not full laying in bedcaretaker, but on
the set he's been a caretaker. The last handful of
years for Corso is maybe his schedules slowed down. It
has slowed down a little bit and he's raally He's

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executed it to perfection, has Herbstreet and the reason why
it's not just surface love for Coach Corso. He loves
him to the point of like family. But Corso feels
the exact same way like Herbstreet's a son and a friend.
So the relationships unique. It's rare you get to be
with somebody on the same set that many years and

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developed that relationship and that friendship. It'll be emotional day
for all. We'll all have those tears. I assure you
that it would be no more emotional leading into it
than Kirk kurb Street and lead course. So we're going
to go through that day.

Speaker 8 (01:20:07):
I have to believe that Coach will not pay for
a meal that entire week there in Columbus. There will
be there will be a trip to Hyde Park right
there on High Street, which has a lot of their
state cuts named after you know, Woody Hayes, Ryan Day,
Urban Meyer. I think Herbie even has a stake there.
I got to believe that probably Coach will probably get
one at it on the menu.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Yeah, I would imagine that Coach is going to get
that wherever he goes post you know, college game day.
But he's earned this. He's earned he's earned this to
be able to go out like this from his career,
and he is greatly responsible for the you know, the
incredible success of college game days that continues to grow

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in many of us set our clocks by it every
Saturday morning for sure, and.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
No doubt about it.

Speaker 8 (01:20:54):
Let's get back into the Astros conversation as college football.
We're excited about it, but we're also excited to see
the Astros bats get going.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
When will that happen? Hopefully soon, We'll talk about it.

Speaker 11 (01:21:04):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
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Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Dan Matthew excuse.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
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Speaker 8 (01:22:03):
Salisbury Shows, we'll get back into the Astros conversation here.
As mentioned, they lose last night, two straight losses.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Now.

Speaker 8 (01:22:10):
The good news is, though, Sean, the Diamondback's taking care
of business.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
In a huge way. I think it was like a
what a.

Speaker 8 (01:22:17):
Five run sixth inning last night to be able to
pick up the win against the Seattle Mariners. So the
Astros still keep their three game lead on Seattle.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
It just would be nice if.

Speaker 8 (01:22:30):
The bats would have come through and been able to
help this team. Maybe, oh, I don't know, move it
to four games in the lead column.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
That's what you're begging for, right I'd like what you are?
So greedy? Disdain Danny, Hey, look greedy, So Frank, we
don't always a big lead. They got a lead. You
didn't expect him to have this lead right now, with
all the injuries, you didn't expect it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
It is the positives.

Speaker 8 (01:22:57):
And yes, what Mick Jagger did tell us, we don't
always get what we want, and I've found that out
numerous times in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
But I've said a numerous times, Sean, it.

Speaker 8 (01:23:06):
Would be nice to be able to come in here
and say, hey, you know what, Sean, I'll be damned.
The bats carried this team last night. I'm just asking
for it for one for one time, and then.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
You just want it one time. That's it. Well, you
want it ten times, you want it once.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
I mean, let's start with one and then we can
get to two.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Okay. If I say okay, then you're gonna get average pitching.
What would you tell me?

Speaker 8 (01:23:30):
Okay, fine, if you say it that way, then I'll
take enough and be able to get the pitching that
I've been getting.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
All right, fine, enough, Right, So you got to sacrifice
one and say okay, I need the best at one
and just average at the other. You get the best
of pitching and average hitting. Correct well, because I mean
the pitching carries. I mean, the pitching is what's going
to help you win. Yeah, that's because you're okay, yeah,
I mean we talked about it yesterday. In the postseason.
You're not getting five six runs in a game. You're

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maybe getting three or four, and you hope that that
what's going to be able to carry you through. Right then,
think about it. How many teams this year in baseball
are going to have both sustained both pretty consistently this year.
Can you name them on three fingers, Dan, Yes, right,
you can. In baseball, I'm not talking about individuals you

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can name on three fingers, So listen, I'm with you.
I'm trying to be Can you tell I'm trying to
be kinder, gentler today? Then just be you know, Okay,
I'm kidding, but I am trying to point out some
of the positive stuff. Can you imagine if you were
eight games out or we'd be right? I mean, the
thought process with a struggle, how hyper sensitive, everyone pissed,

(01:24:40):
everybody'd be. The reason why is we're not doing this, this, this,
and this. Think about how successful this run has been
so far, the success we're having. When we say we
mean the Astros and you're playing offensively average baseball at
best at times average baseball, the average baseball, I don't

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know where the home runs they can't rank in the
top dozen. Can they dance in the league. There's no way, No,
there's no way. Batting average, yeah, they're the second half
of the league and somewhere in the middle. I mean,
you know, runs per game, the run differential we go through.

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Like I said, I mean you've told me sixty games,
then we can kind of to see who a team is, right,
haven't we decided that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Home runs and go ahead, Yeah, home runs.

Speaker 8 (01:25:37):
Their twentieth in baseball, tied for twentieth sixty five on
the season with the Washington Nationals. But batting average, they're
twelfth at two fifty one.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Right there, right, just so, I said, twelve to fifteenth,
somewhere in the middle, okay, just above the you know,
creeping towards the top half. Okay, the great now down dude. Pitching,
I mean, they've been pretty damn good. So what I'm
trying to do is think about, Okay, it's so easy,
and we all do it, get locked into why is

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this negative? Why is this thing? We don't usually ask
why when it's good. Why is Fromber's pitching?

Speaker 11 (01:26:13):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
We just say he's pitching well, and we move on
the second he has a blow up? Why do you
have blow up? And so the questions of why Christian Walker,
why from I mean, why Jordan Alvarez? Why? You know,
I get it, But when you really think about wouldn't
it I mean I almost got to say, it's a
treat to know that the team has been an average

(01:26:36):
offensive baseball club average average and in certain categories blow average.
And then when they're on the baseball they play pretty
solid defense. They pitch extremely well, they don't throw runners out,
don't hold runners very well. But man, if this is
the way the season's going to go, you're going to

(01:26:58):
have a chance as a Divisi winner because they can
sustain this. They're doing it with unhealthy bodies a lot
of times pitching, so they can sustain this pitching. And
I don't think they can they can be any I mean,
I don't think they're going to go much more south hitting,
so they can sustain this pitching with what they've got

(01:27:19):
and start to get healthy. I mean, look at the
beginning of your dad, how many wins did you have.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
Before eighty seven?

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
Eighty eight? Okay, well, we're sixty what five games in
sixty some games in?

Speaker 8 (01:27:32):
I mean we've got sixty six games in nowty six
games over five hundred, right, so you're thirty six and.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
Thirty Okay, sixty six games in sixty So we're at
that point. So now the third way through the season,
correct sixty sixteen hundred and twenty. Well little more than
that because we play one hundred and sixty two games,
so little more than the third of the way through
the season at twenty Well, and you know, eighty one games.
A matter of fact, you're more in the next twenty

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games are going to be you know, halfway through the season.
So at this point, considering where they are, how many
wins did you have them for this year? I mean,
from like eighty four eighty five you had them what
over under eighty seven?

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Yeah, eighty seven? Eighty eight is where I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Okay, Okay, let's just say eighty eight for the hell
of it. Okay, sixty six games in thirty six wins? Correct? Now,
do now do sixty six more games and say this
is how they play? So that gets them sixty six
more games would happened? But what one hundred and one
hundred and thirty two is that what it would be?

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Yeah, they'd be twelve games over mine mine?

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
And how many wins would that be? That would be
seventy two? Yeah, okay, with with about thirty games to play, correct,
somewhere in that range. Okay, So let's say they went
five hundred the last thirty games. How many wins is that?
That's say, sixteen more wins for the hell of it,

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and you already put that on top of seventy two.
That's eighty two, that's eighty eight wins. It falls on
your number eighty eight wins. Did you expect ninety four
ninety five? No, they're not getting the ninety eight wins
this year. They're not good enough offensively right now. So
we just did that. I have this first time. I
did it, and it landed on your number eighty eight wins.

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So I get what you're saying. But you know, Dan, well,
the ebbs and flows, you're losing seventy, you're losing seventy
off the top. It's the question of how you losing them,
and then those other ninety or so, you know, the
eighty some wins or whatever it is, you're going to
get eighty eight wins. So you lose seventy or more,

(01:29:41):
and you know, if you're having a phenomenal season, you're
one hundreds, one hundred games. My point is, and it
doesn't make it any better when you're struggling. I get it.
But if this is the version, you're winning a division
and with a chance, So if I got to sacrifice one,
I'm going to sacrifice the one we're struggling with now.
Hate to say it, but then I look at the

(01:30:01):
big picture. I say, there's no way ill two Bay
stays where he's at. There's no frigging away Jordan doesn't
rake at some point, and there's no way at leek
Christian Walker just by running into twenty home runs is
an improvement at first base, even at two ten. So
I'm trying to look at it frustrates me too, But
then I try to say, Okay, we're this frustrated six
games over five hundred, just imagine who you could be.

(01:30:24):
And they are going to get hot. I don't know
why offensively, and I don't know if they can sustain
it offensively. But as long as you give me this
pitching and the health gets right, if I can just
play above average offense, you'll you'll have a chance. And
then you got to get time to hit in the postseason.
So I'm trying to see the other version of disdain, Danny,
but I'm with you, but because I want the perfect
part of it too. I want all that stuff to

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I do. But when you really think about I mean,
are we chasing a ghost? Borrowing a little bit of
trouble being overly frustrated. Man, we've seen the movie A bray.
You frustrated us, and this guy frustrate us, and that
guy frustrats You still win divisions, so imagine how you
feel now. And the pitching continues to do this and

(01:31:05):
the bullpen, and then all of a sudden they run
through the thirty game hot streak where they're twenty and
ten and the offense has picked up and the pitching
stayed the same, then you'll be happy. But then you'll
run through another ten games, like, man, they're three and seven.
They can't hit their way out of wet paperback. Those
are the ebbs and flows of baseball. As long as
we're not saying that about pitching, or they haven't, man

(01:31:27):
that's a twenty game wall, or the bullpen's gone to
hell in a handbasket, you're always going to be around.
The fluctuation is going to be for the most part,
the hitting it's going to go up and down, and
their lineups just and they're good, they're not great, and
they haven't produced like we expect them to. But as
long as the pitching does this, even when you lose
four to two, but the bullpens, bullpen has started walk eight,

(01:31:49):
struck out thirteen. You still say it was still four
to two. I know that's the White Sox, but you
still had a chance one swing of the bat, which
that swing of the bat hasn't come enough this year.
But if you just stay and live right here, like
like what was a hitch with Will Smith and Kevin James.
You live right here, dude, and when during that dance
you live right here and he slapped him when he

(01:32:11):
tried do anything different. If you just do that, right,
if we just live here, you're you're winning the division.
Think about that. If you live just where, you are
now winning the division. And that's playing fairly pedestrian offense.
So to me, it looks up because when the big
fella gets back at some point, he's coming back and

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he will get hot. Great great hitters, don't stay cold,
be whole. Even if he doesn't have the same season,
he's gonna he'll go through a month where you're like,
this dude, is this dude's sick? How good he is
and you're not. It's gonna happen. So man, it's almost like, man,
I'm living. I want some house money, even though I
hate to say that, because we don't have this big

(01:32:53):
fellow back where six games over five hundred were in
first place. Imagine what happens if they continue to play
average and we extend our lead because a couple of
our big hitters get hot and Christian Walker wins Player
of the month. Now we're talking different. So if you
just live here, you're winning the division. You're winning the division.
It's crazy to think, but you are because you're pitching

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as good as Seattle's pitching and the Rangers pitching can
be from first guy up to last guy meaning hater
in the bullpen. Neither one of those teams can say
they're better than this team. They've got maybe deeper starting
pitching that's healthier, like Seattle, three or four starters deep.
But when this team gets healthy, they're the same. Yet,

(01:33:37):
while everybody all these teams have two really good starters,
a lefty righty combo, there's nobody better in the division
with the way they pitch right now than those two,
than Valdez and Hunter Brown. It's a lot to like, man,
there is, even though the Bats we like the prettiness
of it. It's not a sexy team right now offensively,
but they're grinded out to the turn of thirty six

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and twenty. That's not a bad start.

Speaker 8 (01:34:00):
Yeah, sometimes we look at baseball as we do with football,
though we seem to be more patient with football when
our team loses, even though there's fewer chances. But I
fall into the trap just like anyone else. I get it, Sean.
I appreciate you bringing me down a little bit off
the I'm not gonna say from the ledge, but at
least to be able to back me off from it

(01:34:20):
as much of disdain, Dan, I think that's what I
But I love.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Your disdained Dan, because I think it points out both sides.
You make very extremely valid points being disdained Ane. You
do the frustration because I guarantee more people probably feel
like you than me, and under saying because we got
great baseball fans that call this show and listening in
the city, more probably feel like you do. Because of
the we all ride with it, and I normally just like,

(01:34:45):
oh gosh, how we leaving that guy stranded and we
walk in it? That bothers you. How's that guy now? How
do we not move him across? How do what's going
on with the base runnings? Why can't we get the
clutch hit. We all go through it. But when you
really take a step back and say, okay, let me
see something different with all those woes and disdained it's
thirty six and twenty, but I would imagine more probably

(01:35:07):
sitting in the list on the radio Stade. Yeah, but Sean,
what if they don't pitch like this? And I think
that's what If they go through a lull pitching, will
hitting be good enough? That's the thing we can talk about.
Will the hitting at some point be able to carry
the pitching. That's the question, not if they could. If
they're going to be around, They're going to be hanging
around no matter what. But if they do go through

(01:35:28):
pitching woes, which hopefully they won't, is they're hitting going
to be good enough to carry them when they do,
Because I'll tell you what, pitching's carried hitting for the
better part of two years now in this league, on
this club, it just.

Speaker 8 (01:35:42):
Hass well, dis Dane dan is excuse me, Disdaine Dan
is one thing dangerous. Dan Well, it's a danger to
myself and to others. We don't want that, so we'll
try to stay away from that version.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
John and JW.

Speaker 8 (01:35:56):
You guys are some of those great baseball fans that
Sean is just mentioning. Could you guys involved Tony two?
You want to join him? Seven one three two one
two five seven ninety against seven one three two one
two five seven ninety. We'll continue to roll along here
on The Shawn Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 11 (01:36:15):
You need to know no now.

Speaker 8 (01:36:17):
You know, Johnny Needville, you've been patient, man, Appreciate your patience.

Speaker 11 (01:36:23):
Sells been a while, been a.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
While too long.

Speaker 11 (01:36:28):
Yeah, hey, look let's go back.

Speaker 18 (01:36:33):
Appreciate uh spring training and I'm jumping around here a
little bit. Number one chump, great signing.

Speaker 11 (01:36:40):
Very good.

Speaker 18 (01:36:43):
Lee Corso, greatest about you know, one of the goats.

Speaker 11 (01:36:47):
Loved him on the show. Him and the pencil now
always with the pencil.

Speaker 18 (01:36:54):
Anyway, back at spring training, I said.

Speaker 11 (01:36:59):
If I'm wrong, I'll say I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
M Colors.

Speaker 11 (01:37:03):
I was wrong.

Speaker 18 (01:37:04):
Hey he won, he lost his day. You're not gonna
win every outing and stuff. But I think it's great
that he's back. He's throwing good, he's in, you know,
throwing pitches. Pitch counsel into the eighties, seventy, the nineties.

Speaker 11 (01:37:16):
What have you.

Speaker 18 (01:37:20):
But I've been quiet about this for way too long.
Dana Brown, you are a flat out ball face, big
four headed, slapping on your branded tattoo it liar. You
wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you. You can

(01:37:43):
never tell anybody the truth, whether it's about Kyle Tucker
or Jordann Alvarez. What the hell does it matter if
they broke their hand, busted up their chests. It's not
football in Vegas. With the book he's in the I
R I L. Whatever, Tomato tomato. He's out sixty days.

(01:38:06):
He's out sixty days. It's not like he's gonna come
back if you put him on a sixty day I L.
He ain't coming back in fifteen. So why can't you
just go ahead and admit it. I just I hate
Dana Brown. He is nothing but a bald faced liar.
And for people not to call him out and tell him, dude,

(01:38:27):
quit bs and us you are lying. It is ridiculous,
just as a spot A spotter has gone right down
into that trap with him because all he does is
BSU two and we we found out too on the
We found out on the road too. Don't put Jeremy
Piny out of dh. If you're gonna give him the

(01:38:49):
day off, give him the day off because Jeremy didn't
and that was bad.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 11 (01:38:55):
So fed up with Dana Brown? What's up?

Speaker 16 (01:38:57):
Dog?

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
Let me ask you a question, just just reverse it.
Put you in charge of this and the reason I'm asking.
And you know, Dane is a good man. He just
he's got a baseball team to protect. But I'm curious,
how would you handle it? Okay, so you.

Speaker 11 (01:39:18):
Got he broke his hand.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
He broke his hands. But right, and I think a
lot of us right. But is this team any different
than any other team? Name me a time, and name
me a time when you felt, oh yeah, every single
team was fully transparent on injuries. You can't. You can't
not just the city anywhere. So I get it our frustration.

(01:39:42):
We've all said it. I've said it. I interviewed him
every week and interview Dana Brown to day. I think
Dane's I did. Dane is a good Dane is a
good man, and I think he is a great baseball
eye for talent. But I'm trying, and it's the frustration,
I guess. I'm trying to figure out the protocol of
when it comes the injuries, what do we need to know? John,

(01:40:03):
You know what I'm saying, What do we need to know?
I don't think Dana Brown comes on here or goes
on intention to lie to somebody about injuries. I started
to think, well, did they not know about I mean,
we all figured out that Kyle Tucker or something. But
you've got to protect your players first.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
You just do, just like you protect your your coworker.
You're the people who work for your set. You've got
to protect them first. But to what expense of Okay, yeah,
to what expense of or where's the line that said
that is, Okay, he's hurt, but he's not injured. It's
going to be ten At times, I don't think they
know even though thus those of us in the outside said,

(01:40:39):
there's no way a guy misses seventy games or fifty
games and then twenty more when we finally figure out
it's a fraction out of bonebers. I think we all
knew that it was pretty severe anyway, with Kyle Tucker,
with jord On, they were convinced it was soft tissue.
Then you find out there's a little fracture. Could it
just be that you can't discover that or you're not
imaging enough as opposed to trying to tell us, because

(01:41:00):
he's been pretty honest about other things. But injuries are
a hard thing to get to when it comes to
any person, whether general manager or coach or anybody trying
to get full transparency because there they're their obligations to
protect the player in the organization first. But it's frustrating.
So how would you handle it?

Speaker 11 (01:41:16):
What would you do? I hear you. I hear what
you're saying.

Speaker 18 (01:41:19):
I really do, But you have a state of the
art equipment and you cannot How do you see this?

Speaker 4 (01:41:27):
How do you not?

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
How does your MRIs?

Speaker 4 (01:41:31):
What?

Speaker 11 (01:41:32):
How did I get it?

Speaker 18 (01:41:33):
If you put them on a stupid X ray machine?
Because that's the insurance purposes extra?

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
Do you want to know how an MRI doesn't see
it the first time? Right, that's what you're one.

Speaker 11 (01:41:40):
How did they doctors? How are the doctors not seeing this?

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:41:46):
I don't get it.

Speaker 18 (01:41:48):
I can see you know, the bs and if he
if it were football, because you know as well as
I do sewing the bookies and everybody looks at the
I R I l even back and in all of
our days of playing in the old school ares to
me in the college. But the point and you in
the NFL and everybody else to where it would change

(01:42:11):
the line.

Speaker 11 (01:42:12):
It would change the you know, the over and the
under and and the point.

Speaker 18 (01:42:16):
Spread and the percentages of so and so was out
because oh, sorry about that injury.

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
But the point I just man.

Speaker 18 (01:42:28):
That and I'm gonna let me and then I'm gonna
go there because I know I'm making people mad.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Real quick, man, real quick.

Speaker 11 (01:42:34):
Real quick, real quick.

Speaker 18 (01:42:37):
The Astros are lucky they are in the divisionary end.

Speaker 11 (01:42:42):
I'm and the spotted with all weight fettle bats heat
up with wind dude. Hell man, we in the middle
of June when they're gonna heat up? What we waiting
on the All Star break?

Speaker 18 (01:42:53):
They're lucky they're in the divisionary in in Texas and
Seattle because and and I did say al To was
a but it's okay.

Speaker 11 (01:43:02):
I admit to that I was wrong. But y'all have
a great week. Sean. I'm gonna call you out from
the river. I'm about to hook up and get out
of here. Is raining, so y'all be careful for allus.

Speaker 8 (01:43:12):
Hey appreciate the call. John, I mean his point about
Dana Brown. I'm not putting that on the helm. I
feel like the astros on that Saturday, they sat him
in the drugout, they put him in a bad spot.
That's not a Dana Brown thing. That's that's where you
need to hear from the medical personnel. That's where somebody
else that's not the personnel man for your team needs

(01:43:32):
to be addressing this situation. That's not Dana. I'm not
putting that on him.

Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
Dana Brown's job isn't too and I know John knows this.
Dana Brown's job isn't to give us doctor synopsis by
looking at the X ray or the MRI himself. It's
what doctors tell him, what the organizations. These decisions are
not a one man decision is a point, it's still
a spot. It's it's medical staff, it's the owner. And
how they put the message out that's probably more bothers

(01:44:00):
some to sumon than any It's not who's delivering, it's
how the message has to be put up. Listen, you
think Dana Brown likes to talk about from uh Jordan
Alvarez's hand, you know he's not You're told. I mean
he's not a doctor. He doesn't read MRIs. He just
is told what it's, what you're looking for and what's
going on. And I do know that sometimes swelling has

(01:44:20):
to go down to get it, but is it two weeks?
So I don't know the full protocol and in their
meetings that it'd be interesting, it'd be an interesting documentary
to find out in meetings, how do you discuss injuries
that you know are going to be asked. I think
that's it. It's not that we're all bothered by it. Hell,
we're bothered with with Blanco and bothered by it, and
so did Dane and I have conversations and reached out

(01:44:41):
to each other privately that had nothing to do with
being on the air to figure this stuff out. He's
been nothing but great. Don't have to agree with everything
he says or how he handles it. That's his job,
Nor does he have to agree with everything the opinion
of the public on how he handles his team. But
when it comes to injuries, teams have protocol and the
job is to protect the player a lot of times first,

(01:45:02):
So I don't know, and they're always going to air
on the side of not telling you what you want
to hear. That's never going to change the question is
how long? I do have that question too about and
I've been through twelve surgeries real quickly, Dan, is how
long does it really take before you can see a
fracture what you thought was an unequivocal soft tissue issue?

(01:45:25):
How long does an MRI the medical side. I don't
know who we can get a doctor on. I don't
know that answer, because if you just did figure it
out and you didn't know, man, then well maybe OMRI
machine's got to be able to sift through some swelling earlier.
I don't know the answer, but I know this. I
don't think Dana likes and I wouldn't either, having to
address injuries because it sucks. He just happens to be

(01:45:45):
the spokesperson because he's a GM. That's the way it works. Well,
job's not easy for a reason. And we'll be talking
with him here in an hour here for his weekly
visit on the Sean Salisbury Show. Tony JWC guys, right there,
get you guys involved.

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Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
JW wants to weigh in. Good morning, JW.

Speaker 9 (01:48:22):
Pardon guys, well, y'all pretty much stole all of my
thunder what I was going to talk about so the
only thing that really bothers me is white Sox.

Speaker 16 (01:48:35):
I don't get it. I mean, how in the world
can you let a team like it beat you? And
at the same time, when they were up in Chicago
and playing them up there, they didn't win but one
out of three games. So I'm going to tell you

(01:48:56):
as this, have a happy Father's Day and remember what
it's all about, and that mean lawn cheers, that mean all.

Speaker 11 (01:49:04):
This other nonsense.

Speaker 4 (01:49:06):
Just have a good, RESTful day.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
I appreciate the call.

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
JW.

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
Yeah, looking forward to Father's Day on Sunday, I.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
Might usually lawn share though still too no lawn share
on the house. But I'm wickip. I know what he's
say at the real meeting and being with family, and
it's good to be a dad man when the you
two will experience that one day you both have dads,
so it's it's good to be one as well.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
Yeah, lucky to still have mine.

Speaker 8 (01:49:30):
And for years, you know, it's always been golf in
the morning and then go home and watch the US Open.
So uh, even though at a distance, we can still
do that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
So I know, waked up in the morning, I'm a
wake up in the morning Father's Day like like maybe
brunt you know, church brunch, like a mid like early
church mid morning brunch, eighteen holes of golf, and then

(01:49:59):
you get home for like, you know, the last two
and a half hours of the last nine holes of
the US Open. And if you don't play golf, then
you watch it from the start. But yeah, little church
family brunch something something along the line. But you gotta
have some good victuals and then it's just relaxing and
enjoying whatever Pops wants to do, you know. So I

(01:50:21):
wish my dad was around to enjoy it still, that
would be awesome because I give anything for that. But yeah,
the real meaning of why and the impact pop fathers
make and also the things that we all think we
could do better at right trying to do better.

Speaker 8 (01:50:35):
So but yeah, Father's Day is Father's Day. It's Sunday,
This Sunday coming up. Yeah, this Sunday coming up, or
the next Sunday. No, it's it's this one right directly
in front of us.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
We're sure about this. Yeah, I'm a dad, So it's
this Sunday. Yeah, he's correct, this Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Yep, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:50:56):
US Open Sunday. I knew that's the case, but that's
this Sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:51:00):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
Wow, at first, I don't know why I felt like
it was still two weeks away. But it's this Sunday.
What you're telling me us open Sundays.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
US up and Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
I better. I better brunch it up, right, I go.

Speaker 8 (01:51:15):
That's it, Me and brunch, you know, maybe even throwing
a cocktail or two there and be too.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
You'll mix some Margo up Margo on their as.

Speaker 8 (01:51:23):
Yeah, it's happening. Maybe a bloody in there. You never know,
meet a lotta I just don't. I just don't know
where the day is going to take me.

Speaker 1 (01:51:31):
Sean A lot of spice in the bloody There's no
doubt my thing, real quick man, because you know, I
love getting off the rails. Sometimes I think it's a
good thing. A bloody Mary, spicy bloody mary. But the ones,
and maybe we've discussed this, I don't know if we
discussed honor out there? Do you like the ones that
have four hundred things in it?

Speaker 10 (01:51:49):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
I don't. I don't loaded some blue cheese, olives and
I need some spice, a lot of spice and Worcester sauce,
and I like, I like horse radish in there. I
like it extra extra spicy, right, But I don't need
eight pieces of bacon a piece of lettuce, no, like
like four pieces of cheese. I mean at all. It's
great presentation, but it kind of gets in the way

(01:52:12):
of what my goal was. Spicy bloody marry with vodka. Yeah,
I mean, let's really let's break it down a little bit,
you know what I'm saying, presentations everything until I got
to take fifteen minutes to reconscure, put a new structure on,
to get all this stuff out of my bloody marry
to drink the damn thing. So, Jeff, just the thought
process that you mentioned Bloody Mary's on a Father's Day,

(01:52:34):
is this.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
Sunday that it is this Sunday? Yes, yeah, it will
be there.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
You're not usually You're not usually wrong on your dates. Man,
It's this Sunday. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:52:43):
And I mean you can have all the constructed, deconstructed
Bloody Mary's you want, and Dad too, Dad, please? You
know it's kind of like, is it the holidays, The
calories don't count well in this case for you, poss well,
the drinks don't count.

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
With Sunday front free rain, the Sunday rain.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
Yeah, yeah, you are unencumbered.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
Good good word, though cumbersome, unencumbered good good words.

Speaker 4 (01:53:11):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:53:11):
Yeah, So Father's Day is this Sunday.

Speaker 8 (01:53:13):
Yeah, and we're going to try to avoid the cumbersome
bloody Mary's out there because I'm with you. Oh, this
one's got a lobster claw. Why do I want a
lobster claw? If I want to, I'll just order a
lobster That's it. I don't need you to slap a
dog on tomahawk on top of my bloody Mary. Okay,
stick it on the side, let's eat it. But that's

(01:53:33):
it's a lot of work. I don't need work on
my bloody Spice it up and let's deliver. I was
gonna see usually I'm it about like you know, if
it's really needed, I'll go a max of two because
then soon enough the heartburn starts to kick in.

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
I mean, this is.

Speaker 8 (01:53:48):
Yeah, this is old guy talk for sure, but I
mean it's just it's it's the reality of it. I
just I want to avoid the red lobster effect as
I call it, sean, and that is the acid reflux
all of that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:01):
Oh, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
Skin turns a little red.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
You know, you know you got you gotta hurt your
little throat in your mouth type of yeah, esophagus, Yeah,
I gotcha. Yeah, you hang in there, buddy, try Yeah,
I try.

Speaker 8 (01:54:15):
I try to persevere Sean as best I can. That's
that's just hanging there. That's what we gotta do.

Speaker 10 (01:54:20):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
His buddy mine said getting old to b.

Speaker 1 (01:54:23):
Yeah it is, so you can say, bitch, you're getting old.
Is a bitch?

Speaker 14 (01:54:26):
It is?

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
It is for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:54:28):
Ye.

Speaker 8 (01:54:29):
Anyway, Tony and Angleton c here right there if you
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Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
This Sean Salisbury show continues.

Speaker 8 (01:56:33):
To continue, Take them mounts, and with with with the
other guy. I'm trying to remember who the other guy was.
That the guy that said, and that's that? And what
do you take about with Oh, he put one right
into the old melon. You sure did, They sure did.

(01:56:54):
Left the emblem right there on the back.

Speaker 1 (01:56:57):
Of the head.

Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
Oh no, seize the fish. Oh yeah, yeah, not good.
And that's that.

Speaker 8 (01:57:04):
And then you hear Henry Hill, which I never really
understood how Henry and Jimmy got off Scott free.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
You get to that in a second.

Speaker 8 (01:57:11):
But you hear Henry Hill. It was revenge for Billy Batts.
Tommy was not a made guy.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
Billy was real.

Speaker 8 (01:57:21):
Grease ball stuff Bill Batts. Yes, salot Tommy, salute. Now
go home and get your shine box the bleeper. Keep
them here, Keep them here.

Speaker 4 (01:57:33):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
People are out there standing, what movie is this?

Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (01:57:35):
Oh, it's good Fellas. If you don't know that, I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
You're right, So you don't even have to explain when
you're talking about that it's automatic the baseball bat to
the head, you know, it's good fellas there are or
it's a Mafia movie.

Speaker 8 (01:57:49):
There are movies that if it's mentioned and you're not
sure what I'm talking about, I mean, I understand it
is a dated reference for a lot of our audience,
that is for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
But if you haven't seen that, I can't help you.

Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
You can't help It's like if somebody says you can't
handle the truth, and then I know the movie. You
can't help them. No, you can't help them right now.
Or if the hard stuff isn't going to come down
for hours, right you can't help them. Yeah, the Bishop Bishopickery, Yeah,
you can't help him on the on the on the
cross backler. I told him that, but yeah, you know,
still still to your point. But I call CARLSA because

(01:58:23):
you're tight. Yeah, I gotta have a nickname for Carl.
Yeah we go. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 8 (01:58:28):
I wanted to get in a round of nine before
the heavy stuff comes down. Okay, yep, that's great, great movie.
That's that's that's another one, seeing you know Father's Day Weekend.
I mean, that's that's one that you can obviously watch
with dad and it stands a test of time.

Speaker 1 (01:58:45):
Yeah, because this is this weekend's Father's Day that I've
been informed, and the US Open weekend, so you've got
that too.

Speaker 8 (01:58:51):
So ball striking solid, solid ball strikers. Ty Webb was
definitely a solid ball striker. You know, he didn't keep score.

Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
You know, how do you measure yourself up against other
golfers by height?

Speaker 1 (01:59:04):
Yeah, I'm six five, you're six to one. There you go,
four inch advantage. Let's go.

Speaker 8 (01:59:08):
Apparently Chevy and Bill could not be in the same room.
They hated each other that much. So if you notice
it during the movie, you rarely other than the you know,
grounds creep grounds keeper Shack scene of you know, Kennon Ball,
Kennon Ball, you matter if I take a drop.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
They're not in the same scene much after that. No, any, no, No,
that's one well documented if you.

Speaker 8 (01:59:30):
If you ever see the documentary on that, just know
that the cast and crew on Caddy Shack had a
great time. Apparently Ted Knight did not as much. He
was the only real serious actor that was there, and
numerous times he would have to go to trailer's dorm rooms.
Whatever it was to be able to try to get
people on the set because he was a professional, and.

Speaker 2 (01:59:48):
He'd apparently threatened to walk off numerous times.

Speaker 1 (01:59:52):
Yeah, we had what's my guy's name, the warden and
longest yard tall guy, James. You know who I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
I don't have to look it up, but I remember
him from Babe.

Speaker 1 (02:00:04):
Yeah, well exactly exactly, Grandpa and the Grandpa and be
and then brilliant actor. But we were joking around about
politics without him there and Sailor those guys said, dude,
whatever you do do so I think I'll go up
and start talking politics and James, I guess cromwell yeah,

(02:00:25):
And I said, well, what would he do if I
went up and did this? I said, don't do it,
and he said, they said don't do it. I said, okay,
got unders said, I'm like, I was actually just giving
a hard time. Nothing but respect for him, But he
was actually intimidating. When we were on the scene on
the on the golf course with Sandler and I and
you know, and a couple others and guys who'd been
in the previous uh previous longest sho Well, you're standing there,

(02:00:47):
I seriously doing a scene in front of him, like
I The reason I memorized my lines and didn't want
to screw him up at all and do it right
was not because Sandler. You don't want to keep the actors,
the guys that are actually good at their with this.
You don't want to keep them waiting, so you make
sure you're not the reason James Cromwell was intimidating, well,
I don't know if you meant, but it was just

(02:01:08):
I'm thinking, I'm in the the I'm in the throes
of a guy that I better not jack around and
try to be mister comedian and joke with sailor stuff.
I better hit this right. And it didn't take long
because I was scared to death to screw up in
front of him. Dude, I was, but they just warned
me before it, so I goes, whatever you do, don't
go over there and start talking you like this president,
because if your politics are different is and you brought

(02:01:29):
you you're don't do it. Seohn I said, Okay, I'm
not going to run it and put it, but I was.

Speaker 4 (02:01:34):
He was.

Speaker 1 (02:01:34):
He was an intimidating kind of like you see him
on TV. He was an intimidating force in person, But
I can imagine Ted Night being that same way. I
don't know how you can keep a straight face with
the Caddyshack crowd, dude, And I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:01:45):
How you do it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:45):
I couldn't keep a straight face on some of the
stuff I was doing. And I'm not even a regular
at it. Okay, those guys, I don't know how they
do it, because some of the stuff if you can't
help and say cut Sandy, that goes and one time
he yells up the time I was given Rob Steid
you know te twisters, you know on the baseball time, Sam, dude,
I'm very face to face and him and I start
crying laughing. I'm the one who started laughing. And Sadler

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Salisbury you know, time's money out here, you know, just
the way the way Salsbury laughing, But basically, tell me,
we don't need forty seven takes of you twisting his
his chest to the point where they're raw as could
be right. It's like, oh my gosh. But yeah, it
was fun, but those could be intimidating. So yeah, on

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that set, I would imagine that the Caddyshack set hard
not to have laughs throughout that because Sandler's group's hard
not to have laughs as well.

Speaker 8 (02:02:37):
It was funny how how many takes did it take
for Romanowski though when he delivered them to himself.

Speaker 1 (02:02:45):
You know what, Bill's we had a solid crew. You know,
when they're shooting. It's crazy sometimes when they're shooting their scene,
you're nowhere. It's not like every actor or people that
are there standing around watching, right, James Cromwell's not watching
Bill Romanowskin do is. But Bill hit his pretty good
and he and Sam Ben Bill. Bill is the one
who I think turned Sandler onto surfing too. I think
they started surfing on things after that in California at times.

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So if Sandler had done it, I think Romanowski kind
of upgraded his love for it. You know what I'm saying,
There was a point in time. So yeah, everybody serves
a purpose with Sandman and he's great. Happy Gilmour two
coming out soon. I'm looking forward to that one too.
But those those sets, there can be some intimidating actors.
I would imagine if you were young and Ted Knight,

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I would imagine he was putting you in a in
a buying to the point where you're like, uh, I'm
scared to death to do this now with Chase and
Bill Murray. Sometimes that's that, you know, that opposition on
a set. It brings out the best in people, you
know what I'm saying, just because they're not all going
to get along because they all have egos, right, but
it'd be hard not to laugh with those guys.

Speaker 8 (02:03:48):
Well, don't just stand there, get some clue. Hey, it's
my buddy, right Well yeah, and how could you not
love that guy? You know, I mean, just him alone
make you laugh. I wonder what their outtakes look like,
the entire the whole thing of it, because those are
the outtakes, may end up being the funniest movie going.
You know, that's usually the funniest part of it. So

(02:04:10):
it's pretty cool. Hey kid, you make this bluddle, make
it worth your while? Everybody? All right, we can leave
it there. It is Sean Salisbury Show. Sports Talk has
seven ninety hour number four astros GM Dana Brown coming
up in about thirty minutes right here on Sports Talk
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Speaker 8 (02:05:09):
Losers last night to the White Sox over at dik
In Park, one for six with runners in scoring position.
Texans mandatory mini camp going to get fired up here
in a few minutes. CJ Stroud back on the field
yesterday throwing two receivers and according to reports, the Rockets
tell the Knicks they cannot talk to Emy Udoka for

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their head coaching at vacancy. Oh no, no, agreed. We
called it last week that this is going to come
to a very positive conclusion for Emma Audoka and the Rockets.
I would suspect that with a couple of years left
on his deal, Sean, that a contract extension will be

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in front of Emmy Udoka this offseason.

Speaker 1 (02:05:53):
I would imagine. So, I mean he has built. I
mean every year they've gotten better, and every year they've
bought there's more buy in, and every year they do
something better. This is the coach for this team, no doubt,
and I would not let him because there will be
aligned for him, there's no doubt, and it would start
in New York and he'd be great for them. And
then to be able to go in and get somebody

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like Yiannis for them or Houston wherever it is, that's
a that's a pretty impressive, a next level step in
two ways. If you're able to get the big fella
from Milwaukee and grab Ludoca good on on this franchise
to saying nope, we got our guy. And once again
I've said, start going around the coaching college and NFL.

(02:06:34):
It's like professional in college coaching in other cities. We're
pretty lucky, man. From Willie Fritz and Kelvin Sampson to
Joe Espada to email Udoka to Demico Ryans, I mean,
I'm just talking about Houston proper. We we One thing
we don't have to take a back seat to is
can you line up your coaches on the major program

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and there's more. I don't want to leave anybody up,
but can you line up your coaches on the major
programs or sports teams in the city and say that
we don't have to take a back seat with this
group to anybody there, that's a that's a line they
deserve to stand in. So we're lucky to have him
and Sore the Houston Rockets. And aside from the you know,

(02:07:17):
the little hiccup that he went through when he left Boston,
the guy is before and after, he's done nothing to
make a difference on the court and uh and seems
to get buy in wherever he goes. He's a very
good teacher and a good coach man. It's it's great
that he's going to be staying here.

Speaker 8 (02:07:34):
We are very fortunate in this town right now, for sure,
with the guys that are leading the major organizations and
programs around here. So those are things that we hopefully
will not take for granted. But we've been talking a
lot of Astro's been talking a little bit of Texans
anything else too. Seven one three two one two five
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You've been waiting.

Speaker 1 (02:07:57):
Good morning. How you doing, hey, guys? Is a virtue
and that's that's kind of segues into my point.

Speaker 11 (02:08:05):
Uh, one of my points this morning.

Speaker 7 (02:08:08):
This guy talking about Dana Brown hates a strong word.

Speaker 4 (02:08:11):
Man. There there's a lot that goes in.

Speaker 7 (02:08:14):
There's there's things that he deals with on a daily
basis that we don't deal with. Financial constraint is one
of them. They're trying to get this payroll down, Uh,
what they can go out and sign players, the the
the books that you look, they went over the cap
last year. They're not gonna do it. And and so
he's got his hands tied a little bit. So let's

(02:08:35):
talk about the positive things about this team. Our outfield
has gotten younger and more athletic. Are they gonna Are
they gonna get beat on some Matt bats?

Speaker 1 (02:08:44):
Absolutely, it's the major leagues.

Speaker 11 (02:08:46):
Man, but there.

Speaker 7 (02:08:47):
But our our outfield is younger, more athletic. We're definitely
better defensively at first. Christian Walker is not gonna gonna
hit like this all year. You guys know that he
his his track record says otherwise.

Speaker 1 (02:09:00):
Parades has been has been.

Speaker 16 (02:09:02):
You know, he's been.

Speaker 7 (02:09:03):
He had been great, but he's been. He's been serviceable
at third base and he's hitting the baseball. But let's
talk about our young pitching.

Speaker 1 (02:09:11):
Guys.

Speaker 7 (02:09:11):
You realize that when this season started, we were talking
I was thinking between eighty four and eighty eight.

Speaker 11 (02:09:18):
Eighty nine wins with this with the roster that we had.

Speaker 7 (02:09:21):
We didn't know that Javier wasn't gonna come back healthier,
Garcia wasn't gonna come back healthy, and and losing the
pitching that we've that we've lost, we just keep replacing
it with with with young kids that come up and
know how to get people out. Talking about Dana Brown,
if you hate him about uh covering up for injuries,

(02:09:44):
that's not part of his It's not his job.

Speaker 1 (02:09:46):
His job is to put players on the field, make
us keep us competitive.

Speaker 7 (02:09:51):
And I think he'll just be patient with this guy
and let him do what he does, what he's done
done his whole career. This we're gonna, We're this is
gonna well. We want to continue to win. We don't
want to have to rebuild and tear everything down start over.

Speaker 11 (02:10:05):
We can do it on the fly man.

Speaker 1 (02:10:07):
And one last thing, I know.

Speaker 7 (02:10:09):
He's coming on the air soon, Sewan, and you ask
excellent questions of him. Please touch on the catching situation
throwing runners out. It seems to me, not with Kroteeny,
but with Dias the last couple of games he has
gotten in a crouch with runners on base.

Speaker 1 (02:10:26):
He doesn't do it when there's no runners on base,
which is fine.

Speaker 7 (02:10:29):
He's gotten into a crouch and he's gotten more competitive
throwing runners out just passively. Ask him if they're if
that's something they're working on. It also the pitch holding,
the pitchers on holding the runners on at the minor
league level, are they doing that now, because that's.

Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
Part of it too. That's all I got. Guys, have
great day and a good Father's Day weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:10:49):
Aiboddy Uh, I mean, Sean.

Speaker 8 (02:10:52):
In terms of Dina's personnel work, I mean we did
multiple segments about it yesterday that this team's not in
the position in right now without some of the hits
that he's been able to pull off, either in the
bullpen or just in the overall roster. That you're here
because of how good he's been at being able to
evaluate talent and being able to get the.

Speaker 1 (02:11:12):
Most out of those guys. You know what's convenient for
all of us, and it's not fair and you try
not to do it. But have you noticed when a
player performs, we give the player all the credit. Well,
you never give it to they never give it to
the guy who saw especially when it's somebody you didn't
think was going to perform as good as they are
you know it's you know, not a top pick, not
a top pick, or wasn't highly ranked in the organization,

(02:11:35):
wasn't your number one or two prospect, or brought in
from another team, nondescript, not a star, but becomes one here,
or becomes a guy you're like, damn, this dude's different.
We give the player. The player gets success, I mean,
gets credit when he's good playing well, it's everybody else's
fault when they're not. A lot of times I'm not

(02:11:56):
saying us, I'm saying we all have a tendency to
why didn't Dana or why didn't James click? Or why
didn't you know, you know, anybody Jeff Luna. Why couldn't
they see that? Why would you trade for a guy
like that? You know what I'm saying. So when the struggle,
it's all the guy who got brought him here or
drafted him. When they're going good, it's never on Hey man,

(02:12:16):
data saw fource through the trees and grabbed this guy
and it worked and he is outstanding. So it's kind
of like it is with a lot of things. So
yet when there's somebody injured and we don't get the
answer we want, it's the non doctor's fault, right, it's
his fault exactly. You know what, I'll take the eye
for talent over his medical reports and any gentleman because again,

(02:12:39):
his eye for talent. When you start talking talent with
Dana Brown, he gets immersed in it, right, Who wouldn't
feel here we go, I know they're gonna and he
knows he's going to get asked these questions today about
Jordan and where we are with you know, with with
what Arraghetti's progress and all the understandably so, but you know,

(02:13:02):
to get that to get the information we need. But
it's he does not get the credit, nor do anybody
that has success for seeing you know, it's eyeing talent
and that that's a big time specially is and what
he has been great at. But hell, I wouldn't want
to answer injury questions every week because you know, the
bonehead like me is going to ask them because we

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want to know whether we get the answer or not.
But I'm gonna I'm going to dive in a little
different this week and kind of find out how we
get to the point and when in their mind they
know and they see it and when the image, you know,
all those things that go with it, and it's not
even an invasive question, it's just kind of a once again.
I like to know why certain things happen. And I

(02:13:45):
do know why franchises protect players. I always do from
us and the injuries, but it's really you know, their
accountability responsibilities to them. But Data has been pretty frank
with us and pretty transparent when it comes to everything,
and I think trying to be as transparent as he can.
And then we get frustrated and we hear something right
after that didn't happen when we thought it was gonna
it happens. But uh, you know, he gets asked the

(02:14:07):
questions and how he handles them is on him. That
he's been very good with me, and I look forward
to our Wednesday conversations because the guy loves his team
and a lot of the things he said about his team,
like last year being patient, we're gonna get hot, they
bore fruit and hopefully it'll it'll be the same this year.

Speaker 8 (02:14:24):
Yeah, and we'll have that opportunity here in about fifteen minutes,
when Dana Brown joins us for his weekly visit, continue
the Astros conversation again on the seven to ninety listener line.
At seven one three, two, one two five seven ninety
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Speaker 1 (02:16:39):
Hi, let's go, Okay, Yeah, the Jason Kid thing was
a possibility for sure. You know, obviously the Jay Wright situation,
he turned it down. He's going to stay broadcasting and
stay retired for now, and he was going to be
able to coach obviously Jalen Brunson, who is a kid
in one of his kids in college, and the know

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you're protecting. And I don't blame him. With the way coaches,
I mean, think about it. Malone won an NBA title
a couple of years ago, fired. I don't know if
we're patient enough with coaches. Honestly, I'm not sure we are.
Look at Tibbs in the next They're a couple of
games away that I mean from going to the NBA
Finals and they fired him. And I want you to

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think about it. Think, but think about that for a second.
We got a guy two years or so removed from
the NBA Championship, there were three whatever it was in Denver,
and we got a guy who just was literally a
couple jump shots away and you know, the closing of
a series to get to the next series of playing
in the NBA Finals, and they fired him. So it

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can only be one of either. There was not on
the same page from coach to front office or player
empowerment said, because a guy like TIBs, Tibbs worked to you,
he's got that old high school coach mentality of we're
gonna work and we're gonna grind, and we're gonna work
and we're going to grind. And they got to the
point that good players the problem is, and I don't
know the reasons, and I'm sure they will eventually no service.

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But you know, player empowerment has allowed players to say no, no, no,
this is not how we want to do it. And
owners have taken the side of the player empowerment and
moved on. But this is the guys like Malone and
Thibodeaux are few and far between now. Hardcore tough love
don't want to shake hands and kiss babies and kiss

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the ass of the organization you hired me to do
a job. Both have done it, even though maybe not
the convention or the new school conventional way you want
to do it, which is players kind of come and
go and all the load management and you're not going
to work them. We don't all those things. These guys
get fired. So if those guys can go, there's no
but there's no sacred cows. There just isn't. The sacred

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cows are for the most part, you can you can
be out. But those guys in football and basketball are
becoming our cake and yet can coach and well, well,
he Thibodeau does this, that's not the new wave athlete
just because he doesn't fall into that and he's still tough.
Love you can still win that way, doesn't matter. That
doesn't always mean cussing and screaming. There's a different scene

(02:19:12):
abusing an athlete and loving them and coaching them hard.
And in my opinion, we lost to two guys who
are really good coach for a team. That's how quickly
it will go south. So when you got guys, you
keep them. Dallas likes kid. Why in the world would
you let Emyo Doka get out. I can make the
argument there's not five coaches that know how to handle
their team better than him, so why risk it? And

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the crazy thing about this sport is they could win
an NBA title and two years later, if something happens
you don't get buying, or the players decide they don't
like him, he they may very well be somewhere else.
It's it's a very fragile job when you can lose
it while you're winning. Dok is one of the best
in the business. I'm glad they're not letting him at

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least interview at the Nickstead be a tempting job, especially
if they told him you got Brunson and we're going
to go out to be honest if we can be.
And it's New York the Nucca, I mean, of course
it'd be tempting. But he's got a good gig right here,
and they're they're they're not far off, they're not far off.

Speaker 8 (02:20:10):
Yeah, it's a dangerous business to try chase wins and
well Nick fans might find that out here in pretty
short order against someone three two, one, two, five seven
ninety is the number to get in real quick before
we get to Astros GM Dana Brown, Brandon wants to
weigh in.

Speaker 2 (02:20:24):
Good morning, Brandon, good mine gets by here. I'm pitching
against who you're pitching against.

Speaker 8 (02:20:33):
Our pitching number fifty or not number fifty Wine Gusto.

Speaker 1 (02:20:39):
It's pitching for the Astros for.

Speaker 8 (02:20:43):
Yeah, tonight against the White Sox. Okay, yeah, so you're
going with them? Okay, Yeah, I got you. Well, we
need a good start out of them, Brandon, because I
mean you need to be able to try to make
sure you don't make this three three losses in a row.

Speaker 4 (02:20:56):
Yeah, hey, he's got his first strikeout.

Speaker 2 (02:20:59):
Okay, we'll go good Man.

Speaker 8 (02:21:00):
Well, hopefully that's a harbinger of good things to come
tonight for for Ryan Gusto.

Speaker 2 (02:21:05):
But it was frustrating last night, Brandon.

Speaker 18 (02:21:08):
Yeah, hey, ty right, we can get him again tonight.

Speaker 8 (02:21:11):
I like your enthusiasm, I like your optimism. Hopefully that's
the case, Brandon. We got to get to Dana Brown
here in just a couple minutes, but we appreciate man.
We'll talk to you tomorrow. Okay, So what's that I
need to the song?

Speaker 4 (02:21:25):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:21:26):
Go ahead? Can you Deva?

Speaker 8 (02:21:33):
Uh I'm sure Triple you could probably make something happen. Yeah, yeah,
there we go. We'll we'll get that going free, Brandon.
But uh, yes, it is a Western Wednesday here on
the show, and a tough one last night for the Astros.
I'm sure that will be talked about as well as
where the club goes going forward. We'll discuss all of
that with the GM of the Astros, Dana Brown. He

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Speaker 1 (02:24:10):
Welcome in. It's good to have you on. Let's start
with Lance mccollors. There's been some great, there's been some
really good, and there's been some what you'd expect from
a guy who's hadn't touched for two years and is
still in like his fifth or sixth start. Assess him for.

Speaker 2 (02:24:24):
Us as if he.

Speaker 1 (02:24:27):
The post injury. But are you surprised that he's been
even sands last night, that he's had such success and
going pretty deep in games for the most part these
last couple starts before last night.

Speaker 4 (02:24:41):
Yeah, Look, it's a testament to his grit, how much
he's worked. He's worked really hard to get back, and
you know that the intriguing thing is he's still has
the strikeouts. You know, he's been striking a lot of
guys out, which is encouraging to the stuff. You know,
every now and then he runs into bumping the road
with his command and that's to be expected for a

(02:25:04):
guy who hasn't pitched, you know, in over two years.
So uh, you know, we've been very encouraged by Lance
and what he's doing. And as I mentioned, the strikeouts
is you know the one thing that you can hang
your hat.

Speaker 1 (02:25:18):
On Dana from your as a as a guy who
knows talent. Now he comes back and you're just watching
him pitch from a general manager's point of view, forget
the injuries, just how he's pitching. Well, what do you
see that tells you, oh, there is still another left
obviously the history of his game, but we're still gonna
see the best of what's the next step to see

(02:25:38):
the best of Lance mccollors in your eyes?

Speaker 4 (02:25:42):
Yeah, you know when you just evaluate him, you know,
I love that he still has really good timing and
his delivery and it's breaking stuff is very effective. So uh,
you know, those are things that you look at that
you know that's going to at least, you know, deceive
the hitters with a good delivery, and of course you
can get breaking balls by guys, you know, with the

(02:26:05):
effectiveness of the break and so those two things are
very very encouraging. You know. It's just that every now
and then, as I mentioned the command, you know, he'll
lose the command a little bit. And so but the
strikeouts are real, and that's very, very encouraging.

Speaker 1 (02:26:22):
Dana Brown astros GM for his weekly visit here on
Sports Talk seven to ninety. Dana, you're so encouraging. You
know your team, and I know you believe your team's
going to get hot and sustain it. You've told us
last year and they did so this year new season.
Tell me what you see that says, not only can
they get hot offensively, because the pitching staff's been pretty
damn brilliant, especially the bullpen that you see. Okay, we

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can get hot, but we can sustain this with our
bats because at some point the bats may have to
carry the pitching staff. Hopefully not, but they may have to.
What tells you they're closer than they've been at any
time this season?

Speaker 4 (02:27:00):
Yeah, I think with the addition of Pinion the leadoff spot,
you know, the fact that he's hitting like, you know,
like three sixty plus, you know, and that's that and
that leadoff spot, I mean that's encouraging up top, you know,
you know, Perettis has been really good. You know, he's
leading the ale third basements and home runs with like

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fourteen and thirty nine ribies, so he's been really good.
I think those two guys really anchoring the top. It's
going to be very important for us. We know that,
you know, our two v is gonna heat up. He's
been showing us signs of heating up. Jordan should be
back you know here shortly. He's about eighty percent healed.

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And you know, Christian Walker has had some really big
hits for us, So we know historically he's been really
good in the months of June, July, and August in
his career, and so you know, these are some encouraging
things that we feel really good good about down the stretch.
And so once this all quicks and comes together, I
think you'll see an offense and a pitching staff that's well,

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you know, well oiled and into you know, their thing,
doing their thing by you know, the mid part of
the summer. And so I'm very encouraged by this club. Look,
we're three games up, you know, uh, you know, we
were fighting with grit. We got the grit every day,
and these guys come to.

Speaker 1 (02:28:24):
Play Dana thirty six and thirty I believe right now.
And you mentioned the you know gonna get hot. If
I'd have told you and be we're just talking brass
tacks here. On the Bingo card for me, I didn't
have I mean, Parade's good player. But when we say Paradus,
look at the way Jake Myers is hit and then
moving Payiny into the leadoff spot in the way he's

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doing that may not have been the full three Bingo card.
And with Christian Walker, the struggles al tuve the inconsistency,
but we know he gets them in bunches. And you're
on being hurt and not having the power early in
the season, but sitting at thirty six thirty days, just
the real, just the truth about this. There's no way
we would have thought considering that Bengo card that you'd

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be thirty six and thirty considering the injuries as well.
So that's got to make you happy.

Speaker 4 (02:29:13):
Yeah. Look, this team, as I said before, they have
a lot of grit and guys will step up. Man.
That's the beauty of a good team. When one of
your buddies go down, you know the other guys was
stepping it up. You know, we got two really good
starts from our young starters that came up, and so
you know we have a group of guys that are

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stepping it up. And as you mentioned, yeah, I forgot
to mention Jake. Jake's been swinging the bat very well,
and of course he's really good defensively. So there are
some signs with this club that will tell you, Look,
we're not even on all cylinders and we're actually playing
pretty good baseball. Can we be playing a little bit better? Yeah,
because our offense has not hit their stride yet. But

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at the end of the day, you know, these guys
shown some grit and it's a good group of guys.
This is a good team and we feel really good
about it. When we get these guys on all cylinders
and our pitching comes back. Uh, you know, this should
be this should make it really fun for the stretch run.

Speaker 1 (02:30:16):
Dan, I want to go back with whether it's culture
or just your guys, the whole organization's ability to see
through this and get these kind of type of guys.
We hear culture, and we hear that these guys, you know,
the grit and the step up that you mentioned that
they just guys back up, step in and do their job.
But the question is why and how well why is
it that when they come here or when somebody gets hurt,

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what is it? You know, we all want to bottle
that up and sell it. Why with the Astros do
you guys have this unique ability to do this? What's
the main what's the main ingredient? And that's in that pot.

Speaker 4 (02:30:52):
Yeah. I think it's. First of all, it's a winning culture.
And we've been that way. You know, when you go
to the postseason eight straight times, guys come in and
they know.

Speaker 1 (02:31:00):
That, Look, this is a winning club.

Speaker 4 (02:31:02):
As you start off with that winning attitude, you know,
and then you have the leadership under Joe Spata, who
has he's very familiar with these guys. He has great
leadership in the clubhouse. Uh he's not a raw, raw guy,
but he's the guy that you know, gets with each
each and every guy and and encouraged. He encourages guys
when he has to encourage him and he has you know,

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when he has to discipline, he'll discipline. And so look,
I think it's the culture that's been created.

Speaker 16 (02:31:30):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:31:30):
Uh, you come here, you come here to win. You know,
as our owner has said so many times, our windows
always open and so look, this is this is just
the way it is here in Houston. I mean we
you know, we played good baseball. We have great fans,
support I meant these the fans just continue to show
up and continue to support us.

Speaker 11 (02:31:51):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:31:51):
I mean I run into fans all the time when
I'm you know, walking the streets of Houston, are just
going out for a bite. You know, these guys are
encouraging you know, they they encourage us so much. They
show up. And that's the beauty. The Astro fans show up.
You know, you cannot do this without fan support. And
I tell you, these guys show up every single day.

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And that's where we get our drive from.

Speaker 1 (02:32:17):
Dana Brown Askedo's GM for a few more minutes here
on Sports Talk seven ninety Salsbury Show. All right, Dan,
if I put a monitor on your you know, a
detector that told me that when I asked the question
of concerns on this team, it would light up and
we'd all be able to see it. What is your
biggest concern sixty six games in about your team?

Speaker 4 (02:32:39):
Yeah, it's just the you know, we got to get
on all cylinders with the bats first of all, you know,
because as you mentioned before, the pitching has been really good,
and the pitching that's been carrying us. So we can
get on all cylinders with the bats and we can
get our guys back from injuries. I think those would
be the two things that would light up for me,
because once that happens, I think we're going to go

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into a nice little run, a nice little stretch, you know,
whether it's ten out of twelve or you know, seven
in a row or whatever it is. I think we'll
hit all cylinders at that point, you know, And that's
the big deal. That's the real big deal of just
getting the bats to get on all cylinders, and you know,

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just getting getting this machine, getting this machine running in
the right direction.

Speaker 1 (02:33:26):
All right, let me be the Devil's advocate, just because
for listeners and viewers and debate this, what if this
is your team the way Let's just say, now, this
is who you are at thirty six and thirty Can
you win a World Series? Hitting like this with the
way it's been and pitching like this with the way
it's been. If this is who the astros are, can

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you play in the late October and beyond?

Speaker 11 (02:33:52):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (02:33:52):
I won't really get into the hypotheticals, but I will
say this, this team, the roster is built for the
World Series. I think we have guys that have to
get on all cylinders, and you know, guys have to
really get hot. You know, we're gonna need our hitters,
you know, to turn up the dial. You know, that's
gonna have to happen. And I think our pitching has

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been really good and we're gonna get guys back. So
we're gonna get guys back from injuries. So yes, the
roster is definitely built to get into the World Series.
I think some things have to happen, like the you know, players,
the hitters are gonna have to get hot, and we're
gonna have to get some guys back, you know, off
the AyL which I feel like we are gonna get
guys back. You know, Arrogetty, uh is the guy that's

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already starting to throw, and you know there's a potential
of him going out to West Palm after this homestand
and and starting to throw even more and get off
the mound and so, uh, there's some good things happening.
I think the roster's built to win. I don't think
any team would expect to, you know, go all the

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way without the without their their horses, right and so
but ultimately, this team, this roster, this club is certainly
built to win. And we have the leadership to do.

Speaker 1 (02:35:10):
It is Christian Walker. How's he handling the pressure of
some early season woes that he's not used to it.
He's hit it hard at times, and we have expectations
that he's going to be better data and so do
you you know this that's why he's here. It was
an upgrade at first base. But with that, how's he
handling the struggles right now?

Speaker 4 (02:35:29):
Yeah, I think he understands from an analytics standpoint and
data information standpoint, he is hitting the ball hard, and
we would say he's been very unlucky, you know, you know,
just looking at his Babbitt which is about two sixty
and balls in play, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:35:50):
So he's been very unlucky and he's hit the.

Speaker 4 (02:35:53):
Ball very hard, and so that's just you know, that's
part of the game. You know. The other teams have
really good defenses, and sometimes you're going to hit the
ball hard and you're not going to get anything out
of it. But we know historically that he turns things
around in the month of June, July, and August. You know,
that's just who he is, and so we're really looking

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for good things. He's been really good defensively, his attitude
has been great, and so he's not panicked because he's
a true professional, and so we really expect him to,
you know, to turn the corner and get hot.

Speaker 1 (02:36:29):
Danny, you're the ability to throw runners out. Tony who's
a regular listener and caller, and he broached the subject,
and so I'm gonna ask for him about are you
and we You and I talked about this coming out,
you know, early after spring training, about the struggles of
throwing runners out, holding pitchers hold them, and catchers, you know,
doing all the things they got to do to be
in position to throw a gut when he runs, getting

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the pitch quick. You know, you're you're to be able
to pop out of that the pounce time and get
it down the second Mason b act all those things.
Are you doing it better? And why is it getting better?

Speaker 4 (02:37:03):
Do you see it?

Speaker 1 (02:37:03):
And what have they worked on to make this better?

Speaker 4 (02:37:07):
Yeah, So it's all about the timing, you know. But
first of all, I would say before I get into that,
the most important thing for the pitcher is to get
the hitter out right, and so you have to really
focus on the hitter and you can't lose sight and hitter.
This is not like the nineteen eighties when teams had
a bunch of rabbits on the bases and they would
steal bases consistently. Now we have guys hit the ball

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out of the ballpark and you have to focus on
the hitter. Now with that said, you know, you also
you cannot let guys just run the bases and allow
it to be a track meet. And so I think
what we've done is we've worked on this timing thing.
We've worked on holding the ball as long as we
can hold it at times to take the spring out
of the runner's legs, you know, because sometimes when you

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hold the ball and you hold it tight and then
all of a sudden you go to the plate, you
know you can throw their timing off. And so you know,
we've done things, we've talked, throw our pictures about it.
But you know, we've made it very clear, do not
lose sight of the hitter, because you know, if a
guy stills the base, he's on second base. If you
get to hit her out, you're still in good shape.

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If a guy steals the base and then he gives
up a triple or a double or a home run,
then you got problems. And so the main thing is
to keep the main thing the main thing, and so
we got to focus on the batter, and we have
to you know, pay attention you know, to the runner
at times depending on who's on the basis, but you

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can't lose sight of who's hitting.

Speaker 1 (02:38:36):
So the priority has been get the batter out and
and secondaries, get the runner out, even though you'd like
to do both extremely well.

Speaker 4 (02:38:42):
Correct, Yeah, absolutely, you got to get the hit her out,
you know, if you you know, you can still it's
very difficult to steal home. You can still. Second still, third,
if I get to hit her out, you know, I
got a chance, right, you know, And so you can't
lose focus of that.

Speaker 1 (02:38:57):
And about the minute I have with you, and you know,
the gray area, Dana, you don't envy. Your job is
talent scout, a general manager. All the things you've done
and understanding that and then having to deal with all
of us that want to know injuries. It's a pain
in the ass. So to remove gray area for fans
and for anybody like in Jordon's case, First, where is

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he Number one? How close are we sixty percent? About
ten days two weeks ago of that thing healing? Where
are we timeline wise, but what's the protocol with him?
You know, at first we thought it was soft tissue
and then we found there fracture. How long between, like MRIs,
do you can the swelling? See it? Just kind of
take us through it so we get a better advantage

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of what you have to go through when you have
to come on and talk to my ass about injuries
and what happened in Jordon's case? Where are we and
how do we get to that point with all the
medical stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:39:50):
Yeah, so he's eighty percent healed, which means he's getting
very close. No pain, he can shake hands, he can
you know, he can pick up a bat. Just not
going to allow him the hit for a few more days.
And you know, so in terms of the injury itself,
hand injuries are very very difficult. You know, any of

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these hand injuries are very very difficult because what happens
is you get you know, when you get these bone injuries,
you have so much swelling and inflammation and you can't
you know, to read the mr. Eyes are very very
difficult and so you have to allow you know, the
swelling to go down and before you can see it.

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And I think he was playing you know, and he
Originally it was the muscle strain in the hand, and
I think he played through it, find the grind through
it with the grit, and you know, I think he
by him playing through it, I think that's what may
have caused this small fracture. I don't know for sure,
but potentially could have. And then you know, we were

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looking at all the inflammation with the with the muscle strain,
and then you know you miss the small fracture because
of all of the inflammation. And then the key here is,
you know, we've learned to keep getting imaging, just continue
to image it because as the swelling gowns, you can
see a lot a lot more and so look, ultimately

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he'll be back. We don't think it's going to be
too much longer. As I mentioned, he's eighty percent healed.
And you know, we've played very well. You know, the
guys have stepped up. You know, we're twenty and fifteen
since Jordon went down, and so you know we are
playing over five hundred. The boys are playing good. Just
like last year when Tucker went out, the boys stepped

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it up. You know, even when Tucker went out, we
played even better. And so you know, we were thirty,
we're forty nine to thirty four or whatever it was.
So look, ultimately the guys have stepped it up. But
we'll get yourd I'm back here soon. I know. It's frustrating.
It's frustrating, you know when when guys get hurt, but
it goes with the territory. It's part of the game.

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It's we're not the only team that are suffering injuries,
and so, uh, you know, we're dying to get them back,
and as soon as he's able to swing the bat,
we're going to try to expedite it, uh, you know
by maybe having him face some pictures and uh, you know,
instead of sending them on a rehab, hopefully we won't
have to send him on a triple A rehab. Maybe

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we can get it done at the ballpark and give
him some live at bats.

Speaker 1 (02:42:25):
Eighty percent of good number appreciate you walking us through that.
Takes a long time for swelling to go down as
the basic point before you can see the fracture on
the MRI DTA. Great stuff, man, Good luck today, and
we'll look forward to talking to you next Wednesday. I
always wish we had more time with you, and thank
you for your time. Man, appreciate it, and.

Speaker 4 (02:42:42):
I appreciate you guys having me on every week. Let's
go Astro fans. We're fired up.

Speaker 1 (02:42:47):
There you go. That's Dana Brown Astle's GM. We'll come
back to finish up quickly and I'd love to have
him for four segments. We'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (02:42:55):
But the Sean Salsbury Show continues.

Speaker 8 (02:42:59):
Sean, we got about thirty seconds. Couple of quick thoughts
on what we just heard from Dana.

Speaker 1 (02:43:03):
Yeah, I just you know, the Lance mccollor stuff. That
did the timing of his delivery impressive. He obviously pointed
out the German Payne you stuff, but the yard on Alvarez,
the protocol to get to this point and the imaging
and more imaging and hopefully that it'll go away. But
still likes his team, and it's the other guys that
have been major contributors, and he loves the pitching staff.

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So it's a good thing at thirty six and twenty
when you're still struggling at the plate.

Speaker 2 (02:43:30):
For sure.

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