Astros Lose Game 2 to Rays, NBA Eastern Conference Preview, NFL Rule Votes

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulisbury Houston. Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury to usc
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Two strike three call at the knees, eighty nine mile
an hour fastball and Capairo goes down looking a lot
of movement on that fastball, and there are two outs,
the one zero and Myers drives it in the center field,
racing back Capalliro on the warning track. It's off the
face of the wall, Carrotinia round third. He will score
Myers in the second with an RBI double in the

(00:45):
Astros with a one nothing league, Jack Myers drives in
his sixteenth runt of the year.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Here's the two to two ripped.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Left field that could go that we it's gone.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Barrettis does it again in eighth home run of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Astros lead to nothing on a bullet off the bat
of a sad Hunters lead off second and third pitch
on the way and that is hit through the right
side of base. Hit that'll score Meisner. Caprierro coming home
to throw in by Smith not nearly in time, and
we're tied at two. Jonathan Ronda drives him in both

(01:24):
that double steel pays off for Tampa Bay. The pitch
and that's hit in the left Shallow McCormick backs up
a few steps, gets behind it makes the catch. Morel
tags trying to score the throw home.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Not nearly in time.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Christopher Morel scores and the Rays walk off the Astros
three to two.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
On the Taylor Walls Sackfly.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
McCormick was already playing Shallow just had to back up
a couple of steps. Morel took off and it paid
off for the Rays.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yep, that's how it goes. Last night.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
The Astros put up too early, they are unable to
be able to do anything more than that, and they
lose it. As you just heard Robert Ford tell you
three to two to drop the second game of this series.
And with all that we say away we go here
on the Sean Salisbury Show, Second straight Morning, a good buddy.

(02:20):
KPRC two's Ari Alexander hanging out with us as the
Astros last night. As I mentioned, I mean, you get
a couple of runs early there, but that wasn't necessarily
the main storyline. I mean, let me just go ahead
and ask it this way, Ari, if I tell you
Brandon Walter yesterday five innings scoreless. What are we saying

(02:40):
after that game?

Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yeah, you think that Brandon Walter helped deliver and steal
a win for you, because nobody is expecting Brandon Walter
to go out and give you five scoreless innings on
eighty pitches.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Exactly, and he goes out there. It does that.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
But I mean, I talked about it last night on
the Tenth Inning Show. It's just I understand. There's no
yord On. You don't have Jiner Diaz yesterday because of
a scheduled day off. Jose Al Tuve does get a
couple of hits, but it's yet again, it's another one
of these day after shows where we're saying those guys

(03:16):
did not do enough, The bats did not do enough.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
This lineup is just so inconsistent and something that's been
going on with the Astros for the past couple of years.
The haucyon days of the twenty nineteen lineup and looking
at that and going, oh my god, where is there
a break for a pitcher that's gone. They're gonna have
to find and pick their spots. This is a completely
new team. The length of this lineup can be in
question sometimes and they did not come up with the

(03:39):
couch hits. And there are some nights they do, and
there are some nights they don't. The Rays always have
sort of interesting relief pitching. They're one of these teams
and organizations like the Astros that are really good at
getting guys out of nowhere. Like nobody knows who Edwin
Ucette is, and he's been one of the best relievers
in baseball. Last year he was incredible. Well, then they

(04:00):
just find these guys out of nowhere. The Astros are
good at it. Two. But this is a game that
you could have won. And I'm not necessarily going to
blame the b bullpen for this, but you can hit
more than this against the Rays.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
You should be able to. I mean, you mentioned it
that Zach Lettel goes. I mean this is also to
a Rays just pitching staff across the board. For as
good as you mentioned some of those guys are, they
are the textbook definition of mid They are a three
eight eight er at least coming into the yesterday's game.
They're right in the middle of the league, fifteenth in

(04:35):
overall team er and you can only manage six runs
against them in the first two games. Again, the lineup.
We've said it numerous times. Sometimes they do enough, and
nights like last night, they don't do enough.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
A lot of the times they do just enough. And
that's something where there aren't that many games, especially recently.
Last year was a good example of this. They don't
break out that often. There isn't that big five, six,
seven run inning. It's happened recently once or twice, but
it doesn't happen all that much. And then you look
around the league at these different teams, especially in the

(05:09):
National League. There's such a difference between the National League
and the American League. Right now, the Yankees are good
most of the time, the Tigers are really good this year,
and then what in the American League. That's why Astros
fans shouldn't necessarily be panicked, because anybody can win the AL.
Nobody is that scary in the AL. Yeah, the Tigers

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look pretty good. The Yankees are whatever they are. They
have the talent to win the American League, clearly, but
that's it. There's no one else that is scary. Then
you get to the World Series. You got the Dodgers,
you got the Phillies, the Mets, the Braves. You have
the Diamondbacks look really good, you have the Padres look
really good, and then randomly the Cardinals are somehow playing
pretty well and the Cubs are sort of decent this year.

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So you have a number of teams where you look
down the league and the Diamondbacks can explode for seven runs,
you know, the Dodgers can explore for seven runs.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
The Astros just don't do it enough. No, they don't.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
And that's something that we just continuously are waiting for
with this team. And I mean there's individual performances too
that you can point to, not just this game, but
just overall that. Obviously we'll get into as the show
moves along, which by the way, to Wednesdays, that means
Dana Brown nine point thirty joins us, and we'll get
into not only the current guys that are healthy, but

(06:26):
also do wanted to try to get an update on
yourd on maybe even I mean, you know, pitching wise,
we were just talking about it. Spencer Raghetty, what's next
for him? Soon enough? Hopefully get forced Whitley back, in
which I would probably if I were going to put
a wager on it, have to guess that he's activated.
Tomorrow that I think you have him for that Mariners series,

(06:48):
and you mentioned it too. You go at the B
bullpen last night, Sean Dubin gives you a couple of
good innings, a couple of walks in there, but still
able to give you scoreless relief. And Steven Okert, I mean, dude,
I threw this out on Twitter as soon as it happened.
Nothing makes my blood boil than an O two count
and you hit a guy like nothing makes me like

(07:09):
more enraged than that.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
Which Steven Okert's been incredible so far this season. He's
one of those guys that that's a find, right Like,
He's a guy that has had success in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
He had a down year last year.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
There's a reason that he was available for basically nothing
this offseason, and then they tweaked and figured out what
it is that they can do to make him effective,
and he's been really good to start the year. But
that is what happens when you are using your B bullpen.
That is what happens when half your bullpen is guys
that you have claimed off waivers or signed off the street.

(07:42):
There is a wide range of outcomes and sometimes that's
the outcome that a guy that's been really good all
year is going to have an off night. That even
you know, Briana brew has off nights, but you know
that those off nights are few and far between. With
Briana Bray, you range of outcomes is a little different
when it comes to the Steven Oaktz, the Bennett Suss's,
the Sean Dubins and give credit to the Astros, those

(08:04):
guys have been good most of the year. You can't
expect it all the time. And last night was one
of those nights.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
No, And I mean that's the thing is for you know,
me dinging him there in the initial I mean it's
also you have to remember he's got a two point
oh one era, so that shows you how good he's
been this year. But I mean last night was definitely
not one of those. He hits a batter, gives up
a base hit, then gives up a double steal after
he looked the guy back to second before he took off.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
It's like, if you have.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
An idea that he's going to go, then step off,
step off. Yeah, there's It's something that's been troubling the
Astros all year is controlling the running game. And those
are just some of the little things that winning teams
are better at doing. And you know, we talked about
the lineup, but there are these small things that they
can do better at and relievers controlling the running game.

(08:55):
And this isn't something that's on the catchers. I mean
these catchers that they have Diaz, Victor Karattini and says
our Salas are even though he never gets in the game,
I don't know, does just give him one at bad
give my guy says are a game a day. Their
pop times are great, they get up, they make the throw.
The pitchers are the ones that are struggling to control

(09:15):
the running game. And Killibort came in. You saw immediately
like real quick slidestep on his first pitch because Joe
Spottamus has said.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Something now, I mean it's and it's something that at
times they've been able to do a better at but
not only trying to keep runners from taking the extra base,
but also you being able to take the extra base.
Although jose Al Twove does steal second last night, so
that was nice to see. But I mean that's been
one of the biggest achilles heels for this team is

(09:42):
both of those part of the game where you're like, Okay,
you can't throw guys out, and then you get thrown
out trying to steal a base. Like it's almost kind
of to a point where it's like, just stop trying
to take an extra base.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Seriously, man, they should they should keep trying to do it.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
I want them to be as aggressive on the basis
as pos because you have some of the fastest guys
in the league, guys that you wouldn't even expect. Cam
Smith is so fast he gets on late in the
game and then try to steal you know, Chaz, They
try to have him bunt over and Chaz has got
to do a better job bunting than that. He's trying
to like stab at it high. I know he can

(10:17):
bunt better, and I've seen Chaz lay down sacrifice bunts before,
so I don't know why yesterday he decided to have
one of the worst bunting performances of his career because
he's a guy that can do it. But Cam can
run and should run more. Jeremy Payne, you can run
and should run more. And they were really aggressive really
early this year, like the first few weeks of the season.

(10:39):
It's like whoa Pina's got three stolen bases? Here we go,
We're starting to get to the thirty stolen base mark
for a guy that's like the eighth fastest guy in
the league. And then you look at Cam Smith's sprint
speed and it's like and then you asse him come
around third on like a single off a second, You're like,
whoa Cam Smith can steal some basses? And whoa Jake
Myers can steal some bases? Then do run?

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
I get a little bit because running is hard on
your body. But if sho Hao Tani, who is one
of the most valuable assets in the sport, who is huge,
If you've ever stood anywhere near sho Hao Tani, he
is six three two twenty. He's a big, kind of
lumbering guy who looks like a monster on the baseball field.

(11:23):
If he can steal fifty bases, slide, put all that
torque trying to get off a first base and slide
and dive and do all that stuff and put all
that on his body.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
So can you.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Yeah, I mean, and you know, I know that you're
a big Proponent's on the twenty twenty watch for Jeremy
Peney this year. I'm thinking that it's it's very much
in play for him, and I mean, yeah, that would
feed into it.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
It should be.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
I mean, he he has the ability to steal thirty
and there's a reason that they talked about betting him
a car to steal fifty this year because when you
are one of those fastest sprint speed guys, and I
know that he's been working on timing the reads off
the pitchers and that's where Kyle Tucker was so good,
because Kyle Tucker is not fast. Kyle Tucker is like
a twenty six point whatever sprint speed guy. So for

(12:12):
those of you at home who are not obsessive with
sprint speed, thirty is elite elite. Twenty eight is really good.
PAYNYA is at twenty nine point I think six this
year is at twenty nine point eight last year. So
it's the average. And then there are bolts, which is
how many times you run and it's higher than thirty
feet per seconds. That's what we're looking at numbers wise.

(12:34):
So if you can do thirty, you're the fastest guy
in the game. This is Bobby Witt that we're talking
about is like a thirty guy Trey Turner, those kind
of guys. Twenty nine is still insane, twenty eight is
really good, and then like twenty six twenty seven is like,
you're not a bad runner, and then everything below that
is like Martin Maldonado. Right, So Paya is like twenty
nine point eight. You have Cam Smith. I think it's

(12:57):
like twenty nine to three. Myers is twenty eight something.
Kyle Tucker was twenty six to seven, and he's stealing
thirty bases, not because he's fast, but because he has
the ability to read every little tick that a pitcher does,
and he does the preparation. And that's something that Jeremy Penny,
I know, worked on because last year he worked on
it in the offseason before last year, and he didn't

(13:18):
feel like he was that good at it, something we'd
have conversations about. And then this year it felt like
I'm getting better at this, like I'm starting to figure
out reads on pictures, and early in the year it
looked like he was doing it, and I'm kind of
trying to figure out why isn't running more and why
Cam Smith? And I know, like Cam Smith's a rookie.
Cam Smith barely had any minor league experience very little

(13:39):
obviously major league experience. This the first six weeks of
the year.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
But try it.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
He's fast, and you can't use his size as an
excuse of like, oh, we don't want him awkward sliding
and getting hurt because he is the same size as
show Heo Tani and Shoeo Tani is a seven hundred
million dollar player who is sliding, however many times a
game because he is stealing these bases.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
And you can't have these guys run. Cam Smith can run.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, you got cheat the angles as much as you
possibly can. And the Astros, I mean especially two, with
how inconsistent this lineup can be. That's something that they
strive to try to do. So, Yeah, they lose last
night three to two to the Rays. Rubber game this afternoon,
coming your way here on Sports Talk seven to ninety noon.
First pitch here on Sports Talk seven to ninety Hunter

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here continue the Astros conversation because it seems like Ari
this is now a problem that we just cannot avoid it.

(15:14):
When it comes to this part of the Astros will
discuss that.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Here.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
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Speaker 4 (15:35):
It's got a cult following. I don't even think it
has a cult following. Like most people don't even know
it's out there. Alec Baldwin's in it, Sean Hitassi, Amy
Smart was in it and it's a funny movie. And
he's one of the guys that's part of the card game,
along with Richard Jenkins, the dad from Step Brothers. He's
in that. He throws on the New England accent in it.

(15:55):
It's a great movie.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
You are, yeah, I mean as if you guys can't
see at home. But the look on my face.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Is just like amazing sound, amazing soundtrack, Outside Providence, Outside,
amazing soundtrack.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
So the whole yes, it does. In the whole movie
is Sean Hitossi's character. He's kind of you know, high
school screw up up there, and he gets in trouble
because he and his buddies get high and they crash
into a parked cop car with the cop in it.
Nobody gets hurt, but still, I mean, you know you
do that, you're gonna get in a little bit of trouble.
And his dad's friend, who says he's connected gets him

(16:31):
into a prestigious boarding school up there in New England,
and hi everything else, you know, the sort like John
Abrams is in it and his name is Drugs Delaney
and he writes him a letter and it gets intercepted
by the school and they start reading it and he's like,
you know, do you have enough of this or do
you need me to send you more? And uh, of
course they're like, you know, how many people named drugs?

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Can you associate yourself? Just one.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Yeah, you know, it doesn't have an amazing soundtrack, even
though I got it when I was a kid, and
I'm not quite sure for what reason. Wild Wild West
I want to say I was like seven or eight
years old. This was peak Will Smith fame. If you remember,
Burger King had the promotion where if you get yourself

(17:17):
a whopper, you get the sunglasses that Will Smith and
whoever they got Kevin Klein plays Artemis Gordon wore and
you have the silver ones and the gold ones, the
sunglasses they wore in Wild Wild West. And for whatever reason,
I was like, I want the soundtrack to Wild Wild West.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
So we walked over to best Buy.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
I thinks always remember I was in the summer staying
with his family in Brooklyn and walked over to best
Buy and got the soundtrack to Wild Wild West and
Unleash the Dragon by Cisco, which I had the Thong
song on it. Of course, So those are two of
my first album purchases of all time.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Oh it's the.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Ones you always remember, and it's you know, I thought
you were going to say that, then you guys went
over to Burger King and got.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Those I got those sunglasses. So there was a good Day.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
I make fun of people who have like the transition
lenses because they remind me of the sunglasses from the
Burger King from Wild wild West.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
There you go, And that was also too prime, you know,
like you said, those are the prime Will Smith hears.
That was also any movie that Will Smith did well,
I mean, then he's got to have the presenting track
on the soundtrack.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
That's part of it. I mean Men in Black he
had it.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
I always remember the music video too, of the dance
the alien doing the dance with them. It's the things
you remember, Yeah, I mean will Smith run late nineties
was like undefeated and the song Wild wild West not great,
but at the time, eight year old me was into it.
I was locked in on the Will Smith Wild wild

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West track.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Then his wife ruined his career and his reputation.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Yeah, it's it's been a less of an easy time
for the guy.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
It has.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
I'm thumb here though, for when we have the Will
Smith come back, it's gonna happen. It will he'll he'll
do the right things. He'll finally distance himself away from
that wretched person and be able to have the bounce back,
and people will be like see still a good guy
like my buddy for example, would run into him all
the time out in La said, couldn't have been nicer.
And the other thing is too he goes grey because

(19:18):
you know, obviously in the movies, yeah he's died up
for it, but he goes when you see him when
he's not working grey hair.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
I'm waiting for the late career role where he has
like a they'll put him in like a serious Christopher
Nolan movie where he has a supporting role where he's
just later later in the career where he's no longer
kind of a bankable star, and then he just like
nails it and wins wins an Academy Award for being
you know, the like I'm thinking of Oppenheimer here, but
like he's like a scientist and he doesn't do like

(19:45):
the Nigerian accent he did in the Concussion movie, and
he just like nails his eighteen minutes on screen.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Oppenheimer. What a movie.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Which, by the way, his brother, I think his name
was Frank Oppenheimer wrote a song called the Adam Bomb,
which maybe one of these days I have triple le
pull it up. But I remember the buddy of mine
was like you know he he has that song right,
and it's like one of those like kitchy like sixties songs. Yeah,
you know the ad bomb, the ad bomb, Like that's
the whole hook of the song. And uh, you know

(20:13):
you also realized if if you followed up Inheimer's life,
the guy was a wild boy.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Man, he was a little bit of a wild.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Cardppenheimer's a wild boy. That's great, dude. He was like
he was a woman. He really, he really was.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Like it's just like, not only is he building like
massive weapons of mass destruction, but he's also too he's
slaying in other ways.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
He's James Harden of theoretical physics. That's that's pretty much
what he was.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
But it's uh, it's me and Sean had this discussion
too of like what cracks me up about that is
when they're talking about, hey, what happens when we detonate
this thing, and they're kind of all like, I don't know,
I guess we could all go yeah, that good movie.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
And uh, it's just funny to think of him in
those terms of these guys like trying to say essentially
save the world for continuing war. And then also he's
on this like two am, like, hey, you up whatever
they in the forties, the version of you is, yeah,
now he was, he was throwing rocks off the window.
But to you know, kind of do that.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
There were there were many different ways of trying to
risk back then, much more than the U up text.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
I mean, good for offen Iraman. Yeah, he was.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
Multi talented, multi faceted man.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
That's it man, he was. He was not only you know.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
As Harry Carey, as Will Ferrell or Will Ferrell as
Harry Carey, you know, asked Jeff Goldbloom, would you rather
have a debilitating disease or be the best scientists in
your field?

Speaker 5 (21:36):
I think we know which one that Oppenheimer chose. Yeah,
both of them. That's well, the debilitating disease with this
man was too horny.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah yeah, well you know, we all have our crosses,
I guess. But anyway, a little history lesson for y'all
here on the Sean Salisbury Show. I do want to
get into just a ongoing topic on this show. Christian
Walker is. I mean, it's it's yet again rearing its uglyhead.
We'll do that here. As you know, this segment, we

(22:07):
got wild Wild West, we got Oppenheimer and uh oh
outside Providence is what got us all going because of
George wentz So and and you know, as usually when
things like this happen, you know, people pass away that
had great roles on shows, memorable roles. You'll have people
who will put together the compilations on social media, and
somebody put together all of his when he walks into

(22:29):
Cheers and everybody.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Oh Norm.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
And I never realized the blonde on there would always
say Norman because you know, you'd have coach Ernie Pantuso.
Is there an Ernie Pantuso, that's you coach?

Speaker 6 (22:43):
You know.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
He would always be the loudest of Norm, you know,
whenever he'd walk in. But I never realized that he
had one liners whenever he'd come in, you know, didn't
I've seen like four episodes of Cheers. I'm more of
a Fraser guy. Okay, Fraser dominated that wash.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
I mean you could. First of all, you couldn't. I
mean they're doing it.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
I love I love when people said and I just
fell into this, like, oh you couldn't do that show today,
which you couldn't, And there's like backing this up. They
are and it's not going well, right, Fraser doesn't work today,
even though you know it's on Paramount Plus or whatever,
there's no way that people are watching it. And then
back when they had it originally on in the nineties,

(23:22):
it crushed, right, It won all these these Emmy Awards,
the ratings because you know, TV was different and you
didn't have ten thousand options. On Netflix, there's like eight
shows you can watch. People watched all of that, and
so I'm a little too young for Cheers, although I've
seen like maybe four episodes ever, But shout out to
them for the spinoff. It was incredible, Like how many

(23:43):
times I know it used to be spinoffs back in
the day, like All in the Family, and then the
Jefferson's was a spinoff of All in the Family, and
then yeah, it didn't really work out for Joey Tribiani. Yeah,
that one didn't work. But back in the day, they
used to do this all the time. And Fraser did great,
like Young Sheldon somehow worked as a spinoff. Apparently it
was better than Big Bang Theory. I've never seen an
episode of Young Sheldon, but I've heard that it, you know,

(24:06):
did well and had the long run. Yeah, but yeah,
I mean they got all these seasons out of Cheers.
It's this legendary show, and you know, you know the
actors well enough to where we're talking about George went
here and then Fraser goes on for like eleven seasons
and wins a million Emmys, And arguably it was a
better show by the trophy count, for sure, And it

(24:26):
made the careers of Kelsey Grammer and David Hype Pierce
and John Mahoney and all these other people. Eddie the
Dog and Eddie the de Moose, Yeah the real name
of the dog. I don't know why I know that,
but yeah, they I mean that used to be a
thing where like any show did decently. They're like sitting
in this boardroom, going, how can we spin this off?
How can we take the the wacky like kid character

(24:49):
that's been in three episodes and turn this into syndication?

Speaker 1 (24:53):
That was like all they did in these board rooms.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
See.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
That's the funny thing is I remember so many years
ago said they could have made a spin off after
Seinfeld of George Costanza said, you know that they did.
It was called Kurby your Enthusiasm. Because George Costanza was
built off Larry David.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
You could make a lot of spinoff Kramer, I'm surprised
they didn't try to do a well he canceled himself,
but yeah, I'm surprised they didn't try to do that.
I'm surprised that Julia Louis Dreyfus ended up having to
do The New Adventures of Old Christine, which I'm sure
ran for more seasons than it should have, but they didn't.
I feel like today, if there was this big of

(25:28):
a hit as Seinfeld today, they would have tried nine
spinoffs show like Peterman's got his own spinoff. David Puddy, like,
let's give let's give Patrick Warburton something to do.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
I remember, funny Enough Peterman years ago. It was the
twenty eleven Sweet sixteen Elite eight when he was here
in town. That was when Baylor played Duke. John Shier
was on that Duke team, you know all of that,
and I just remembered, funny enough, Matt Thomas sitting near
us and we're, you know, walking to the seats, and
we're like, is that the guy that played Peterman off Seinfeld?

(26:01):
And then we found out yes, it was, because he is.
His wife went to Baylor and they were at the
game and I was like, I'm kind of tempted, Like
I'm kind of tempted to go and you know, hey, man,
big fan, which it's just kind of like, hey, that's
that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I'm here to watch the game.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
Yeah, that's that's one of those where you just let
those His name is something Hurley, right.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
I think the actor, Yeah, I think so. It's kind
of like did you ever see the video last year
where an Auburn fan tried to go up to Bo
Jackson at the Auburn basketball game and tried to do
the selfie thing and Bo was like.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
No, I'm watching the game.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
He's very much that like it's it's it's not you know,
being rude, but it's still like, you know, it's just
like hey, like no, I'm not here for that.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
You know.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
There's time and place for the autographs the pictures today,
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but we're talking astros right now. seOne three two, one
two five seven ninety the number two get in and uh,
you know, Ari, I've thrown this outs, and I mean
just as long as this continues, I will continue to
throw this out. Christian Walker, and I understand what the

(29:07):
fan reaction is at times when you bring up the
name Christian Walker right now, Jose to Brady two point
zero and the Astros can't figure out first base whatever
it might be. But has a nice game on Friday night,
he has to go ahead, three run homer there. That
was nice to see. You love seeing that he's got
the RBI double on Saturday. But you are you aware

(29:29):
he has not gotten a hit since that RBI double
there in the first inning Saturday night. He's oh for
his last fourteen he he can't be getting into stretches
like this, and especially at first base, right, Like, you
have a fan base that is gunshye now about any
first baseman over the age of twenty five, you know,
right like they're Leo DiCaprio over here, like you're above

(29:50):
twenty five and we're worried about you. It hasn't worked
out at the plate so far, which is unfortunate because
because of Hooseir, Right Like, you had Yuli Guriel for
years and years and years, and he would have his
ups and downs, but for the most part was this
really good player. And there's a lot of fans out
there that it's unrealistic that would be like, oh, I

(30:12):
couldn't have just kept Yulie. Well, they tried to make
an upgrade and it didn't work, and then obviously they
cut ties with Jose Bray You and now these free
agent markets at first base have been weird because either
you go all out and you get Pete Alonzo, and
the deal that Pete Alonzo was looking for did not
fit what the Astros do, and he didn't even get
the deal that he was looking for, and he's obviously

(30:34):
punished everyone by having a tremendous start of the year,
and he also didn't want to leave New York and
there was no way that the Astros were realistically in
on Pete Alonzo. So you go down to the next
tier of guy.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
And the reason that Christian Walker came at the price
he did, which twenty million over three years is not
that bad twenty sixty million, because he was a little older,
and so that's the trade off you get. Because Christian
Walker was a late bloomer. He was a guy that's
good player at South Carolina and then it took him
a while to be something at the major league level,

(31:05):
and then he had a number of great years in Arizona,
but it started really late in his career, and so
he's kind of making up for lost time. And then
you signed the guy and it's like, whoa, We're getting
this guy in his mid thirties, Like what are we
doing here? And you hope that he produces immediately and
he hasn't at all, and you can tell it's wearing
on him a little bit. But the good thing is

(31:27):
the defense has been solid. Last year was an absolute
black hole at first base defensively, and if your infield
defense is bad, there is rot that comes from that
everywhere else on the field. And it's been much improved
this year. Pain just having a good defensive season. Eastcock
Paradus has been better on defense than anyone could have expected.

(31:48):
Even Dana Brown, who will talk to you later, when
we talked to him in the offseason, his assessment of
eastcoc Paratus at third base was, well, this guy is
probably a little below average to average, and we think
that he can be averaged to slightly above average.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
He's been above average. He's been really good.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
He has been at the top level of what you
could want from esak Paratus. Christian Walker is doing his
job defensively. There's more scoops, there's more just casual plays
that he makes that got a lot of them. John
Singleton had no chance of making last year with the
month that Jose Brady was playing, no chance of making.

(32:27):
And then all the backups that you use of Victor
Kartini and Racio Dubon who are out of position, We're
not gonna make those plays. But you can't be hitting
below the Mendoza line as the big free agent signing
for a team that is trying to compete for a
pennant and it is May twenty first, and he still

(32:48):
hasn't figured it out.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
It is troubling.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
I don't think he's gonna end up finishing this year
at like, oh, he's sitting two oh seven with only
sixteen home runs, Like his end of the year numbers
are gonna be fine, probably, but they're not going to
be good unless he just goes on a massive tear.
And you keep waiting for it to happen because it's
in there, he has the ability to do it. But
as he gets later and later, like, when is it

(33:12):
going to happen? Right, it doesn't happen. What if it
happens in August? And then by the end of the year,
you look at his numbers and It's like this is
the worst full season this guy's ever had.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Well, and then you got two more years of it too,
which would make people a little uneasy when it comes
to that. But we'll continue this discussion because I mean,
I know how Joe a spot It feels a certain
way about this topic, but I mean continue to have
to disagree with him on that, So we'll talk about
that here. Benjamin c you right there, and as a
he alluded to, don't forget nine thirty This morning, Dana

(33:43):
Brown joins us for his weekly visit here on the
Sean Salisbury Show. We continue on a Western Wednesday Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
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Speaker 4 (34:02):
Part of Flag Football and actor George went cheers fame
passing away at the age of seventy six. Someone three
two one two five seven ninety will continue the Christian
Walker conversation, but Benjamin wants to weigh in to get
us started this morning.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Good morning, Benjamin, how you doing.

Speaker 9 (34:18):
Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for taking my call this morning. Uh,
I just wanted to talk to you real quick about
your upcoming conversation with Dana Brown this morning a particular
a few personnel questions. One I want to talk with
dealing uh with Cam Smith and the PPI Prospect Promotion

(34:38):
Incentive stipulation that says, I, if you win Rookie of
the Year, you'll get a first round pick, or you'll
you'll get a draft pick at the end of the
first round. And UH just wanted to see Dana's thoughts
on like how much they've weighed that as far as
to you know, potentially keep Cam up or to send

(35:01):
him back down, because as I understand right now, to
qualify as a rookie, you have to have you can't
have any more than one hundred and thirty five at
bats in a season, and Cam's getting pretty close to
that threshold, and as well as you can't be on
the major league active roster I believe for more than

(35:22):
forty five days. So I think he may have actually
crossed that unfortunately, but you know, with the way that
the Rookie of the Year race is looking right now,
I mean Cam would have to really really get going,
and you know, I think it. You know, obviously he
has gotten hot recently. They've been kind of tinkering with
his stance a little bit. He's been, you know, kind

(35:42):
of trying to work some things out. But you know,
right now, Jacob Wilson with the Athletics, and you know,
quite a few more guys, you know, Christian Campbell with
the Red Sox have you know, outperformed him so far.
So you know, especially when you got a guy like
Shay Whitcomb, you know down triple A, who can know.
I think his best infield position at second base, counsel

(36:03):
play corner outfield for you to you know, had two
games last week with multi he had a multi home
run game and back to back games including a walk
off home run last week. Yeah, I think he's a
guy that we should be looking at potential to call up.
You know, I know Cam is getting hot right now,
but you know, it's just worth considering that PPI, especially

(36:28):
to you know, try to bolster our FUM.

Speaker 10 (36:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah, No, I appreciate the call, Benjamin. I honestly, that's
the first I've heard of that, the PPI. Yeah, as
is my wheelhouse. Oh yeah, that's why I was saying,
that's why you're here. Uh, Cam Smith is not getting
sent down. They're not trying to limit his at bats.
They're not trying to limit his service time. They're not
going to be messing around with that. And whether or

(36:52):
not he wins Rookie of the Year has absolutely nothing
to do with what cam Smith is going to be
doing on this roster, and it's not necessarily about getting
hot recently. Cam Smith is above replacement level as a
major league player right now on every level. He is
above the league average at the plate, he is playing

(37:13):
a really solid right field defense from a range standpoint,
and he hasn't really thrown out runners, but he's learning
a brand new position. So if you're a team that
is trying to win, you're gonna put your best twenty
six out there on the roster and in this organization,
even though he's twenty two years old, even though he's
played four minutes of minor league baseball, he's one of

(37:36):
your best twenty six. He is one of your best
nine hitters in that he is having a better start
to the year on offense than Christian Walker, jord On Alvarez,
and Jose Altuve, among others on this Astros roster, including
Zec Dezenzo, including Chas McCormick, Jiner Diaz Smith is one

(38:00):
of your best players right now. He is worth almost
a win already a war. I think he's at zero
point nine, which would put him on pace this year
to be like a three to four win player, which
would be worth twenty plus million dollars in a free
agent contract. I don't think the PPI stuff plays into

(38:21):
it at all, the hope at the beginning of this
year when they put him on the roster, other than
to some degree justifying the Kyle Tucker trade of giving
up one year of one of the best players in
baseball for six years plus of a top prospect and
several years of paratus and several years of Wesnewsky, which

(38:43):
is a whole different conversation.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
But to me, for the most part, like they.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
Had the right idea, even if you're giving up that
good of a player, but even if he doesn't win
Rookie of the Year, like he's one of your better players.
He's been good at the plate, he's been good in
the field. He's already worth a win so far this
season and has outplayed half your team. And one of
the key reasons you mentioned why he's here is you're
trying to win. I mean that's one of the main

(39:08):
reasons you brought him up is because you feel like
he is somebody that can help you out on pretty
much a day in and day out basis. Although I mean,
he's gotten his off days here and there, and it's
hard to argue with the results too, and you've given
him a day or two off. How it's not helped
him be able to get going again when he seems
like he's been found out. But to your point, too,
are I mean, if you had any designs of limiting him,

(39:31):
then he'd still be playing in Sugarland, or he'd be
playing in Corpus Christie right now. He would not be
up with the Astros. If you had any of those designs,
you would do the post June one thing. We would
be seeing Cam Smith after Memorial Day if those things
were the case. Yeah, And that's the conversation that maybe
they had in spring training. But it pretty quickly became
evident that this guy can legitimately hit in a major

(39:53):
league lineup, and it's going to be a while until
he's at the top of the lineup. It's going to
be a while until he's expected to really deliver the
kind of result that a top half of the lineup player.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Should but he is twenty two.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
He was incredibly impressive enough to get himself on a
major league roster with barely any minor league time and
all he's done. And I know it's been quiet, and
Jacob Wilson has been really good, and Christian Campbell has
been good for the Red Sox, and there's some other
players who are going to finish ahead of him in
the Rookie of the Year race unless he turns it on.

(40:24):
I mean, Sugano for the Orioles has been good this year.
Kid for the White Sox, a pitcher, and Shane Smith,
like there's guys that have been playing well. But if
you're the Astros and you have Cam Smith playing semi regularly,
you want him to get better, which it feels like
he has. You want him to play a passable right field,

(40:45):
which he more than has, and you want him to
do enough to justify his role, which he absolutely has.
And I don't think there is anybody in this there's
a reason he is their top prospect or no longer
a prospect. I think he's graduated. There's a reason that
there is nobody else in the minor league system, even close.
There's a reason you trade for camp Smith because your

(41:08):
minor league system is not strong at the top. It
is Bryce Matthews, he was in Triple A, who if
he got called up right now, I'm not sure what
role he would occupy or whether he would be able
to hit major league pitching. It is Jacob Melton, who
has had lingering injuries. And it's Shay Whitcomb, who is

(41:28):
not really rated that highly as a prospect, And you
don't necessarily know what position he's going to play at
the major league level because he struggled defensively when he
got called up and they're bouncing them around in sugar Land.
And to Benjamin's point, second base may be his best
position right now, because that's what they need. They need
a second baseman if you're continuing to commit to Jsel

(41:51):
two bain left and Brendan Rodgers hasn't been hitting all
that well, although he's played good defense. That's the only
slot you can have for appreciate wacombe, But where else?
And what like crushing in Triple A in the Pacific
Coast League doesn't mean a whole lot versus cam Smith

(42:13):
is hitting above league average in Major League baseball against
major league pitching.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Yeah, I mean, and you know, in terms of trying
to find guys that can be consistent in this lineup,
I mean, he as of late has been one of
those guys you can count on it. You're hoping that
you can continue to see that out of him. Christian Walker.
We've touched on him a little bit, Brian, so you
want to get in on that topic. Conversation seven one
three two one two five seven ninety is the number two.

(42:37):
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Astros lose last night three to two to the Rays.
Rubber game of the series coming up this afternoon in
Tampa Bay and the NBA Western Conference Finals Game one.
Thunder taken down the Timberwolves last night, take a one

(45:16):
zero lead in that series. Someone three two, one, two,
five seven ninety the number two jump in and Ari.
You know, we were talking a little bit about Christian
Walker earlier. I know that you've got some numbers on him.
But Baseball Reference obviously a great page where you can
go and be able to see, you know, any types
of stats that you want to see splits all of

(45:40):
those other things. And the splits that I've been going
back to quite a bit as of late is Christian
Walker where he hits this year, batting third? Three times
they've done it. And if I'm not mistaken, was it
Friday or Saturday night that they batted him third? I
think it was Friday night that they did, and he
hit the three run homer, so I mean things worked
out obviously for him. Actually, no, it was he batted

(46:04):
fourth that night. I think it was the Saturday night.
It doesn't matter. Four forty four with an OPS of
nine eighty three hitting third this season, batting fifth this
season three thirty three in nine games. So he's had
thirty three at bats, eleven hits out of those, and
over one thousand OPS this season. But then you ask yourself, well, Dan,

(46:25):
with those numbers, how's he batting one ninety eight on
the season. That's because in the one hundred and thirty
five at bats he's had in thirty five games this year,
hitting fourth in the cleanup spot one forty eight with
a four to sixty OPS like that, OPS usually will
get you sent down, not even not in the starting lineup,

(46:46):
not even coming off the bench to hit. That's a oh,
you need to go work on some things.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
Yeah, that's strange that he would just randomly be hot
in the three spot. Five spot makes a little bit
more sense, but struggling out of the four spot. You
can't really move him up because one thing I noticed
you mentioned baseball reference.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
I'm gonna one up you here. I got baseball savant
up and Chile Darren Willman went to college with that guy.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
Yeah. His walk rate has dropped precipitously this year. It's
down to seven percent. He was in the tens, which
was pretty good. So last year, if you look at
his numbers, he had a walk rate of ten percent,
he had a strikeout rate of twenty four percent. Most
everything was pretty good in his offensive profile. This year,
everything is dropped off. His bat speed is still good.

(47:30):
He's still barreling the ball, he's still hitting the ball hard.
His average ax of velocity is still good, but everything
else is down. It's not squaring up the ball. His
strikeout rate is twenty six point six percent. In his
peak that was like nineteen nineteen something, so his strikeout
rate is spiked up. His walk rate is down to
seven and so that just means he's not seeing the
ball that well. He's not getting deeper into counts the

(47:53):
way that he had previously. He is hitting the ball hard,
he is hitting the ball at people. This isn't an ageing,
This isn't a loss of bat speed thing. This is
an approach thing. And his approach at the plate when
it comes to balls and strikes have just not been
as good this year. And I don't know what the
solution is because you can't move him up because you

(48:15):
want a guy to get on base. That's what Estoc
Paratus is. Estoc Paratus in the two and three spot
has been great because he gets on base. Jose al
Tuovey has the cache to hit wherever he wants in
the order, and you can figure it out and then
you have jord On Alvarez. Wouldn't be the worst idea
to me to put jord On in the fourth spot.

(48:35):
Keep this setup that you have going with Paynat one
Paratus is two, I'll two B three. Put jord On
back at the four and then Christian Walker in the
five spot. The problem is who's his lineup protection? Because
right now the only guy in that bottom of the
order is hitting consistently are as two guys as Jake
Myers and Victor Krarrottini. So do you just continue playing
Victor Krarrottini full time, which would take away at bats

(48:57):
from behind your Diaz, Or do you move Jake Myers
into the sixth spot, which Jake Myers could also have
two three straight down games and you're trying to rely
on him for a lineup protection for Christian Walker's not
necessarily the best idea. Or you got to believe that
Yin or Diaz in that sixth spot is going to
turn it around. Or you move Paya out of the

(49:18):
one spot which has been working. There are a lot
of lineup construction questions, especially when the focus is getting
Christian Walker going well. I think there's a couple of
things say there. I mean, number one, with Kartini, you
want to try to linthen this lineup as much as possible.
He gives you that opportunity to do that right now,
So I mean, I think that's one of the intentional
things that you're doing, is to help yourself offensively. But

(49:41):
also I think with the jiner is to try to
preserve how good his bat can be, so then that brings. Okay,
then you play Jordon in left field quite a bit more,
which if it were up to jord On, he'd play
out there almost every day because he loves playing in
the field.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
As a matter of fact.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
I mean the numbers will even show you that he
looks like he loves it even more the plate too.
I think the L two a part of it that
you just mentioned right there is Jordon coming back. Him
being in this lineup already has that intimidation factor. We
can't let that guy get going against us. That helps
Altuve get going of he starts to see better, more
pitches that he can handle and be able to try

(50:17):
to barrel up and become the al twove that we've
become accustomed to over these years. And al Tuove in
the three spot does that with Jordon in the four spot,
because I don't I don't think you can put jord
On back in the three spot and Al two b
in the four.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
Maybe you put Estac Paradis down to protect someone, but
I don't like that because Paradis is your best on
base guy.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
I want him in the two spot right now.

Speaker 5 (50:40):
I actually like the move that they've done to move
Al two by to the three to put Paradis behind
Jeremy Paanya. That's been what Paenya in the leadoff spot's
been working. Paradis getting on base has been working, and
then you figure it out from there. And so if
you can get those top four once Jordon comes back,
I like altwove there because to have the lineup protection
from Jordon, and that was the ideal last year a

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little bit with Al two Bay leading off yord on
your best hitter in the two spot, which obviously they
moved him back down to the three spot, but it works.
I don't know how much you need to be worried
about protecting Christian Walker rather than protecting Hosel Tube, because
if Josel Tuoba gets going, and as much of size difference,
like Christian Walker's a big guy, he's a first baseman

(51:21):
Al two Bays obviously Al Tuoba. Over the years, you
know who's got a higher ops between the two, Al
two b. L two b is a better hitter than
Christian Walker is and has been. Al two b is
on a Hall of Fame track. If you can get
him going, I think it helps the rest of the lineup.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Well, it's also too I mean for you know what
we've talked about with Walker with runners in scoring position
this year, that's not been good. I mean, I told
you where he's been in the four spot this year.
That's also been another struggle this season for him. I mean,
I just I feel like at this point it's a
you're running into almost the point of insanity here when

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you continue to put him in this position. And last night,
you know, you've had first inning struggles all year. I
heard Sparky mentioned this last night. The Astros have scored
nine times in the first inning this year. Shohe Otani
all by himself has scored eleven times this season. That's
how that's how poor this group has been. And by

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the way, this year, with runners in scoring position for
Walker won seventy eight a homer with twelve runs batted in.
He has struck out in the forty five at bats
this year twenty one times.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Yeah, that's not good. It's not good at all.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
The strikeout rate thing that it matters, and they're I
don't know if it's people are bringing up the hitting coaches,
but there are guys that have spiked strikeout rates that
have come from other organizations. One of them coming from
a significantly worse organization, the worst organization, and his strikeout

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rate has spiked. Talking about Brendan Rodgers, Brendan Rodgers is
striking out thirty seven percent of the time, which he
never did in Colorado. He's doing a bunch of good
things at the plate, process wise, not results wise, where
he's hitting the ball really hard and he's got like
phenomenal bat speed for a second basement, but he's striking
out a lot. And Christian Walker is striking out way

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more than he did as a diamondback.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Things you don't like to see.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
That's how it's been here in the early going for
the Astros this year, which, by the way, to a
programming notes, Dana Brown gonna have to push to tomorrow.
He is getting ready for the draft out there scouting.
So one thing we know about the guy of you
know this, he's got the scout side and still has
that part of himself in there. So he will join
us tomorrow at nine point thirty here on the Sean

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Speaker 1 (56:10):
Adrian C you right there.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
We'll get to you here in just a few But
are you're a workout guy. I'm guessing you'll you'll you'll
get in, you know, either go into the gym, you know,
maybe go get some miles in at the Memorial Park trail,
you know, whatever that might be. I mean, you you
try to keep yourself in shape. You gotta look presentable
on TV like us radio guys, we don't have to

(56:31):
look presentable.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Yeah, it's it's a little different. Yeah, yeah for sure.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
So I mean unless you're Adam and Adam and you know,
and then you're simulcast on TV and people get to
see us.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
So you got to tighten it up a little bit.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
So people look at working out, I feel like in
one of two ways. Either they really enjoy it and
it is a massive priority in their life and they'll
do it all the time, or people look at it
as almost like you're obligated because you want to be
in somewhat pass shape, you want to be able to
have a better quality of life, all of that, those

(57:03):
aren't the issues here. The issue is the other people.
Like I would say that like going to workout at
a place that is a crowded gym, or maybe you
do the class workouts CrossFit to any of the others
that are out there, which I do. I need to
do it more, but that's what I do. And it's
sometimes it's the people around you that it's almost like

(57:26):
air travel, you know, the airport. It's the people on
the planes, it's the people in the airport. Like a
buddy of mine has said it numerous times, and I
can't agree with this more that it's almost like there's
agency in some people's minds that once you go through
security then you can pretty much act whatever way you want.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
And it's like, no, it's air travel.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
People are have anxiety, people are angry, whatever it might be.
You know, just try to go about your own business
and let them handle themselves. So yesterday, quick story here,
be very fast, go to the workout, do it and
cardio workout.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
All of that's fine. You know, you're able to use
your own machine whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
All of that.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
Afterwards we do accessory work and it was I think
hip extensions and then GHD sit ups, but it was
I think it was back extensions.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Is the what you call it.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
It's where it's where you flip around and you do
like almost kind of a reverse sit up there where
you're hinging forward and then you know, trying to you know,
help out the glutes and the hamstrings all of that.
So it's one of those that there's only one of
the ghds there, so we have to you know, split
it between different people. There's one guy that is on

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it who's a very nice guy and he is very sociable,
and somebody that was there for the next class. They're
talking and it's one of those that it's like you're
supposed to swap out like let other people and I'm
standing there and it's kind of to the point too,
like where it's like, Okay, I'm not trying to lurk,

(58:54):
because I'm not lurking.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
I'm off like to the side.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
But it's like also too, like dude, have the presence
of mind, Like hey, maybe that guy's trying to get
on the machine and do this now. So then finally
after he's done with the conversation, I'm thinking, Okay, you know,
he's gonna do his work, get off, and it's fine.
Still stays on it and starts talking to me. And

(59:17):
it's just one of those that I didn't have the
heart at the time to be like, dude, I'm trying
to get work into I'm trying to just get my
work done and get out of here.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
And it's things like.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
That that I'm just likeugh, man, like a little bit
of awareness of the situation here, like we're all going
through the struggle, we're all doing it. It's it's all
of those things. But this is a reason why people
don't work out. Yeah, I mean the crowded gym thing
is not fun. So I typically go to a gym

(59:47):
where there aren't a lot of people in it, not
that many people know about it, it's not very packed.
Or I'll go to the one in my apartment complex
where there's very few people, or I'll go to time
of day where there aren't I don't like to be
in crowds.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
You mentioned the airport.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
That's the and I think It's less that people don't
know how to act once they get through security. It's
people don't know how to act insecurity. There should be
two lines for like people who have been to an
airport before and everyone else, or like there should be
like a security guard that just looks at you and
judges how efficient you are, and if you don't look

(01:00:20):
like you're gonna be efficient, get to the other get
to the other side. Like out up in the air
did it perfectly at the George Clooney movie where he
was like, I go in the line with the traveling
businessmen because they pack light and they're efficient. Everyone else
can go in the other line. You see the strollers
stay away from that group out here. Nope, yeah, I like,
and yes, I know that there are differences in airports

(01:00:43):
and how they do things, like there are some that
you do no longer have to take your shoes off,
or you don't have to take out the laptop or whatever.
And for the most part, TSA does a great job
of screaming at you what your directions are, so follow
the directions. It is not hard like it is so
it was simple to be efficient at the airport, and
ninety five percent of the people especially I'm fine.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
In the morning.

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
I'm going to a Texans game or whatever on a
Saturday morning. It's seven am. I'm not a morning person,
and you're just standing there in line, just being inefficient.
That drives me crazy. But yeah, the at the gym, yeah,
you gotta have the presence of mind. I would have
said something. I'm not a I'm more of the in
the curb sense of like, all right, you've been sitting
here chit chatting for twenty minutes, dilly dallying.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Yeah, get out of here. It's like, buddy, hey, let
me get my core work in. I mean, I could
probably use a little bit more core work, but it's
like exactly that. And then one of one of the
other ones is when I used to go to one
of these crowded gyms, is you know, it's common courtesy
that somebody comes up and you're doing I don't know,
the chest press or whatever machine right there, and then somebody,

(01:01:51):
you know, hey, do you mind if I work in?
I remember once a guy goes, oh, I got about
ten more minutes on this. I was like, this isn't
a time thing, Dudeah. You do like your reps, you
do your whatever amount of reps that you do for
whatever regiments that you do of it, and then you
get off the machine or in that case right there
where it's something that's so easy as I can just
pull the pen out, put it on the weight that
I want, and then put it back where you were,

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and then you can.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Get in and work.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Then that's the part of it, Like there is a
partnership that goes into this, especially like when it's shared
equipment like that. And then you know the other one
too is people who don't put their weights back up.
Who's worse that don't put their weights back up? Or
the overly loud grunters and people who want to let
you know that they're working out, who after they're done
will then in their cut off shirt hit the mere selfie,

(01:02:37):
I would say, like people who don't put their weights
back up because like you could trip over it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
You have to do it. The staff has to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
Like the grunting is annoying, but it's not like really
directly affecting you, especially you know, I know anyone no
one wears doesn't wear headphones of the gym, right, Like
if you're listening to the gym music, you're a psychopath.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
I don't want to hear.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
Late Age Maroon five and roar by Katie Perry over
and over again, right, Like, you have your own stuff.
So I have my my workout music. My headphone's on
listening to push a T or whatever. If you're grunting
over there, like I'll just turn the music up. That
doesn't bother me as much. There was one guy I
remember when I was in college at Missoo. There's a

(01:03:21):
dude who was on the football team and then got
off the football team. I think there was some sort
of something and there was some rumors that he was
doing steroids and he would go to the gym to
do the steroids, and he I mean he was like,
you know, to his credit, he's putting a massive weights
guys like bench presdent won tens and yeah, he was

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just gotta know that this man was once on the
football team.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Like, good for you, bro, But that doesn't bother me
as much.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
As you walk in, you see the dumbbell area and
there's like out of order stuff bothers me. And then
there's random ones on the ground, like there's twenty sitting here,
there's a forty five sitting here. And there's two fifty
five sitting here, like, it's not that hard to put
your weights up.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Man, And I mean it's just again to get back
to the overall point of just be aware. And it's
on top of it too, where you know, when you
do these class settings like this, you will have some
people who they've had a day and it's kind of
like again getting back to like gauge the situation. Like
air travel. Usually I get on a plane, same deal.

(01:04:26):
AirPods are in whatever magazine book, which that's the old
school way, but I give off cues. I feel like
of hey man, just let me sit here, let me
get my couple of pops from you know, the beverage carts,
and aside from that, I just hope we don't have
bad turbulence and we get there and we can all
go about our business and just go about our days.
But it's like if you've had a long day at

(01:04:47):
that point and then you go get the work out
in and you have the overly rambunctious person.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Hey man, what's going on, Good to see you. How
is your day? No, it's just like that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
Yeah, it's like, Bud, we're about to hit the warm up, right,
now then we're gonna get into the workout, and then afterwards,
if I've got enough endorphins, then maybe I will Hey man,
good see you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
How's your day? Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
So the good thing that I have I have because
I'm Eastern European, I have kind of a natural face
where like don't I have a good don't talk to
me face, So I can do that where I'll just
I'll just give a look. And that works at the gym,
that works at the airport. That's works in a lot
of places of just like, hey, it's eight in the morning.
I'm not usually awake this early. Now is not the time,

(01:05:28):
so that that does help sometimes. But yeah, I was
on the plane last week and there was a guy.
So I sit next to a guy and his wife.
The wife was next to me, the guy was in
the aisle seat. He would not shut up the whole
flight about the dumbest stuff, telling his wife whatever, Like
he spent like ten minutes on a dissertation about the
lyrics to some Empire of the Sun song and how.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Brilliant it was.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
It's like, bro, it's eight am, Like I just want
to drink my apple juice, Like I don't you know,
and he was so like, like, why are you happy?

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
It's ain't the morning. We're on a plane like it, and.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
It's like Empire the Sun is fine, but like to
like go like that part in for the Empire of
the Sun.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
He was what's there there?

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
It was whatever, their most popular song on the side whatever,
walking on a dreams?

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Man, man, there.

Speaker 5 (01:06:14):
I just thought that was so brilliant. How they're talking
about walking on a dream what what are we doing.
He's one of those music snobs. Music snobs and beer snobs,
the two worst snobs.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
It was a snob.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
He was just excited about like the minutia of whatever
it was at seven forty five in the morning, just
like relax or some song that's in an Owen Wilson movie. Yeah,
like come on, man, yeah, all pass by the way.
That's that's that's what it really is.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
And Sadekas speaking of George Went, I had no idea
that Sadakas was his nephew.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
That's what.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Yeah, yeah, I found that out yesterday. I was like, wow,
I didn't know that. So the more you the more
you learn that right now, there you go. You were
today's year old when you found that out. Adrian see
you right there. We'll get back into the Astros conversation
and also involve anybody else who wants to hop in
on what we've talked about there with the Stros seven
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Speaker 5 (01:08:56):
I grew up in FFA in Iowa, and I did
not fit in because I was a hip hop guy
amongst the country people of FFA. And so I have
a disdain for You're You're apparently disdain Dan, But yeah,
I have a disdain for country music. My hot take here,
and I'm sure this will I've said this a million times.
The women in country music are talented. They all can

(01:09:19):
sing well, many of them right well. Some of them
are part of the Nashville whole thing where you have
like fourteen writers in a room to do whatever. Most
of the men Josh Turner is not one of them.
Luke Bryan is you can't sing, like on a technical level,
right like on a are you a technically good singer?
Many of the women in country music that Carrie Underwood's

(01:09:42):
excellent technical singers, dudes are not good singers. And for
the most Eric Church right like you hear these guys
do a national anthem, You're not. They're not any better
than any random person who's trying out on the voice.
They just got lucky, right like you get me and
I can't sing at all? You give me six months
of guitar lessons and I don't know, two hundred dollars

(01:10:05):
worth of flannel shirts and tight jeans.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
I could be a country singer. Not difficult to be
a male country singer. I say we try this.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
I say, I say we put the social experiment to
work and see if you know, if Ari Alexander could
be a Nashville.

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
So I would change my you know, change change everything,
change my name. I would play up the Iowa background
or whatever. I don't think it's difficult to write these songs.
They are not musically difficult. It's four chords and whatever.
Uh and these dudes can't sting. It's not it's not hard.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Well then you know, then you get the lady Wilson's
who really lean into it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Yeah I'm from Louisiana.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
It's just like, oh God, okay, we get it. We understand,
we know, thank you. Like Miranda Lambert would kind of
play that up too, It's just like, oh God, like okay, fine,
we understand, Like, yeah, you're the every woman we.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Know, Gretchen Wilson. I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
I just frommer Like that's who you know who was
was the redneck woman, and that's I don't like eight
country songs all right, like I refuse to I used
to work at the State Fair in Iowa and some
of the concerts were like the old school of the
eighties rock, the Foreigner of the Journey, those kind of guys,
and those are cool, like a Siles Cooper Live and
that stuff was cool. And then you'd have like Blake
Shelton and it's I don't want to be here and

(01:11:22):
showing people to their seats.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
Like Tripley Knows. One of my favorite Blake Shelton's the
Neon Light at the end of the Tunnel.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
There's a neon at the end of the tunnel? What
what like?

Speaker 11 (01:11:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
And I no, man, you see on that one he
leans into the tent revival country that is out there
of people who you know, well, of course you know,
I've got my faith.

Speaker 5 (01:11:48):
Yeah, it's I mean, look, Kenny Chesney's got a song
or two. I respect the Legends, the Johnny Cashes, the
George Straits, but the Luke Bryan's and the Eric Churches.
I remember I used to work at a shot store in
college and there's an eclectic mix of music, and one
of them was an Eric Church song.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Like Creeping or something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Is that a song grape vine or I don't even
know the worst song in the history of music? Like
what are how how do people how do these people
sell out stadiums?

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
I don't there are paycheck songs.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
And I've brought this up with Sean that there are
some like you know, they lay down the track and
they'll do the interviews and do everything.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Oh man, we we love this one. You know it's great.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
It's like, no, you just went for the thing that
you know is gonna go top thirty and you're gonna
be able to get the royalties from that. Like I
get it. Look, I don't knock the hustle. Like, if
you know that people are gonna pay for it and
this is gonna be a hit.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Then go for it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:46):
Fine, that's why, Like that's why, you know, kind of
getting back to like when we were younger, Oh, they
sold out. Then you get older and you realize, like
you've got bills to pay and everything, so then you're
kind of like, Okay, I would sell out too, Like
it's it's not that it's hard to make that business decision.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
I also don't like the machine of there's fourteen guys
in a boardroom writing your song, and you're trying to
present yourself to a blue collar part of the country
like this is who listens to country music. Much of
the people and much of the people that are spending
their hard earned money paying ninety to two hundred to
three hundred dollars to go see this person live. And

(01:13:25):
they can barely play guitar and they physically cannot sing,
and they didn't write their song. And there's twelve people
in Nashville. They're all make a ton of money making
a song for Luke Brian that did it, and they're
trying to present themselves as you know, some down salt
of the earth person.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
No, it's just it's also too lot.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
Adrian and Ryan. We'll get you guys involved in the conversation.
But one more quick one is you know here in Houston,
of course, you know, we're in Texas. And it always
cracks me up of people's outside interpretations of Texas like
a nine to one one lone.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Star or whatever the hell they called it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
With Rob Low, it cracked me up when they had
he and his son moving from New York to drive
to Austin and you know, welcome the Texas, and it's
like desert road like tumbleweeds, like all of this. I'm like, Okay,
if they were driving in from New York, they would
be driving in through East Texas, which is all piny
woods and the complete opposite of what people think that

(01:14:23):
is even remotely West Texas at that point. But where
I'm going with this is that like here in Houston,
we costplay liking the Western lifestyle for like two weeks
a year.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
That's when we do it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
Yeah, because I mean, if you see somebody show up
to an event now like look, you know wintertime, it's
cold out. The boots they help you know, all of that,
the jeans, you know, everything else.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
Look it it helps out, you know, to add to
the winter wardrobe that most of us don't have here.
That's fine, But like when you just see somebody like that.
There's there's a friend of mine whose husband is in
that lifestyle. They're ranching and farming, and all of their
pictures is him in some sort of western where in Seriously,
like my response that I have to another friend of
ours every single time they post family photos is I'm like, dude.

Speaker 5 (01:15:10):
We get it, we understand, we got it. On a farm,
you're we got it. We understand you're John Dutton.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
We get it. Yeah, we get it. We know, we
know you're fine.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
Well, so I'm looking at Luke Bryan's latest album.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
M hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
It has fourteen tracks. You want to guess how many
of them he had a hand in writing?

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Probably one? Two?

Speaker 6 (01:15:30):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
To guess how many of those two he wrote by himself?
One zero all right? First song, Luke Brian, Rhett Aikens,
Dallas Davison, Ben hayeslips so four people to write one song,
including Luke Brian, tracks two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,
and thirteen he had no hand in writing. And then
track fourteen. Wait, hold on, I messed this up. He wrote,

(01:15:54):
co wrote track eleven, but then tracks twelve, thirteen and
fourteen he didn't write. All right, this is blyying my point.
I see what we got a caller, So he want
to talk about the country music thing. You didn't write
twelve of the fourteen tracks on your album, you co
wrote two of them.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
People want to hate on Taylor Swift.

Speaker 5 (01:16:11):
At least she writes her own songs and writes her
own lyrics, and all these other people like Luke Brian's
got the easiest job in the world. Show up, co
write two of your fourteen songs, put on a flannel
shirt and put like a zin whatever in your back
pocket and sing about closing time in California. I can't
imagine that song is good Kansas that he didn't write.

(01:16:32):
I can't imagine that song is good. But I got
a beer in my hand, which I'm sure sounds like
fourteen other songs about having a beer in your hand
after a tough day. You didn't have a tough day.
You're a performer, right, You don't even write your own music.
You know, physically easy it is to write a song
on your phone or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
He didn't even do that. It's the group project. Yes,
I mean he didn't do anything.

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
He got most of the accolades for the group projects,
so good for him. Hey, look, you draw a paycheck
doing that. I can't sit here and hate you. But uh, Adrian, Ryan,
we'll get you guys involved Astro's conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
You mentioned Ryan.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
He wants to get in on this conversation, so uh,
I'm sure we'll enjoy chopping that up here. But it
is a Sean Salisbury show, a sports talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues. Adrian, what's going on? Morning Fellas,
Morning Money, Morning Morning, Adrian, about it.

Speaker 6 (01:17:29):
About it. That's about the nice I need to be
this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
It's all good. Dave still got room to work and baseball.

Speaker 6 (01:17:37):
I played high school baseball.

Speaker 12 (01:17:39):
Literally, we've all been told get behind the ball when
you throw it. When that guy was standing on third
yesterday and that ball was hit, he already had his
hand in the air. That's already a show with disrespect.
That means Dan got no chance of throwing me out.

Speaker 6 (01:17:53):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (01:17:54):
Then he comes home and slide knowing the ball is
five paces behind him because the ball ain't made a
third yet.

Speaker 6 (01:18:01):
That is another sign of disrespect. Okay, Dana.

Speaker 12 (01:18:05):
There's nobody in that outfield better than cam Ward any
kind of way. So why is he on the bench
all the time and his knucklehead bad news bears are
out there? Chas McCormick's arm is no better than a
little leaguer that you're waiting on to throw the ball home,
and you keep telling him throw it home, throw it home,
and he's standing there looking at you. That's basically what

(01:18:27):
happened yesterday, and without hater, and I bray, you are
you telling me this bullpen can't hold up Dana. That's
another problem that's on you. Okay, So I don't want
to hear it. Nothing about Joe. Joe ain't got nothing
to do with this. You provide the groceries, Joe cooks
the meal, okay, Joseph chef.

Speaker 6 (01:18:45):
This is a classic blah blah blah. I didn't want
to hear about it. This team looks like trash this year.
You knew jord On somehow was gonna come up hurt
this year. What do we do?

Speaker 12 (01:18:55):
Back of the base card, back of the baseball card,
back of the baseball card, back of the card is
killing us, Chaz, his arm is weak.

Speaker 6 (01:19:03):
Sit his on that bench. We got weight training, We.

Speaker 12 (01:19:07):
Got all these guys that we pay all this money for,
and these guys still look like the bad news bears.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
This is horrible.

Speaker 12 (01:19:14):
Lance mccollors will not be called Lance mccullors until he
does better than he does in his HV commercials.

Speaker 6 (01:19:21):
Go back and look at the bread crumb when he
went down. He was bad. He looks like the same Lance.
So I don't mention his name. I called him mister.

Speaker 12 (01:19:29):
AGV because he's better there than he is on the field,
and the rest of y'all, y'all already know what the
day is be terrible, Sean, I know you're listening, So
here you go, baby.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
He appreciate the call a dream. I disagree about the bullpen.

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
The bullpen's been strong this year, tied with the Giants
going into the last night's geame with the best bullpen
in era in all of baseball two sixty four. And
I mentioned it too. Okurt had a bad night. He's
been good for this team. But getting to the Chaz
you know discussion there. This is an outfield that's devoid
of arms. They do not have of any plus arms

(01:20:01):
out there, even average arms out there that you feel
like a situation like that, Like as soon as that
ball left the bat and I saw where it was going,
I said, this game's over.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
He's not throwing them out.

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
Yeah, it's a monkey's paw situation where you have side
note Dana brings the groceries and Joe cooks the meals
a bar. I love that. It's a monkey's pas situation
where the guys who have the arms, which is deznz
on Cam Smith, you are either learning that they're both
learning the position, or in Dezenzo's case, his range isn't good,

(01:20:32):
but his arm's great. Chaz, the range is phenomenal. Jake Myers,
the range ist phenomenal. Myers is a Gold Glove caliber
center fielder, but he has one of the weakest arms
in baseball. We know that Josel. Tuvey weak arm, we
know the Chas McCormick weak arm. And so the guys
that can track the ball, that can cover the ground,
that can run out there, they can't throw. And the
guys that can throw are not as good as going

(01:20:55):
out and tracking the ball. And it's just you've built
an imperfect team and you're gonna have to find ways
around your weaknesses. And that is one of the weaknesses
right now, is that you either have a guy that's
going to be able to track down balls and isn't
going to be able to throw a runner out in
that situation, or you have a guy who's probably gonna
be able to throw runner out in that situation, but

(01:21:16):
he might not be able to track down the ball. Yeah,
I mean, it's it's kind of as you said, I mean,
the chicken in the egg, the monkey.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Paul that the monkey's paw.

Speaker 5 (01:21:27):
Yeah, when you you make a wish, but then there's
a sin, the unintended well it's an old like Arabic
folk tale, is like an unintended consequence to your wish.
That's a negative unintended consequence. Yeah, yeah, the monkey's paw. Okay, interesting,
I'll have to remember that. That's that's an interesting way
of looking at it. But uh now, I mean, you

(01:21:48):
know what you have in the outfield.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
You know that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
I mean it's a massive reason, as me and you
talked about yesterday that jose Al Tuvey is playing as
many games see as out in left field because you
value the offense or in this case hoping it to
you know, increase the offense out there more than you have,
and that obviously hasn't necessarily lived up. But I mean, Chaz,

(01:22:11):
the key is with him. Everything you mentioned, the speed,
the range, all of that, that's all nice.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
He's got a hit.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
And in the case last night where you're trying to
regain the lead and give yourself an opportunity after you
get the lead off single from cam Smith there in
the ninth will be nice to be all laid down
a bunt and be able to increase your chances of
getting in the lineup a lot more. You do things
like that when you haven't gotten a consistent amount of
at bats. That's usually a way to say you're not
going to get more at bats.

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
Yeah, And I think part of it too, is that
he's not getting the consistent at bats and so he's
just eager to like do something, and that's why he's
flailing at a strike two bunt. Most hitters that are
kind of comfortable in their role are laying off that
pitch and going all right, cool one one, I got
another chance to bunt. But he's kind of stabbing at
the ball there because he has limited opportunities to do

(01:23:01):
something to show that he should be playing. This is,
you know, first time in a while that he's playing
back to back games, that he's starting back to back games.
So I just feel like that he he wants to
do something, he wants to show off, like, hey, I
deserve this playing time. And it's a little bit of
that over eagerness and it backfired on him.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Ryan, your topic always plays. We will absolutely get you involved, Chena.
We also will get you involved here as we start
the eight o'clock Howury here It is the Seawan Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
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Okay, let's do this Sean Salisbury, so you see true
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Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
Our number three of the show gets going here on
the Sean Salisbury Show. Ario Alexander in for Sean Dean
Matthews Tripoli hanging out with he is seven one three
two one two five seven ninety the number to get
in Astros three to two losers last night Diesel Day
here on a rubber game of this series against the

(01:24:31):
Rays out in Tampa and actor George went passing away
at the age of seventy six. We've kind of done
the the eulogy of George Wentz here another one too
underrated in he was Fat, Sam in Fletch kind of
a bit roll in it, but still you know it
was part of the movie with Chevy Chase. I mean,

(01:24:51):
I've said that his nephew Jason sideikis that that he
he is the Chevy Chase of this time.

Speaker 5 (01:24:57):
That's crazy that Jason Sidakas is his nephew. I mean
he's Jason Sadaka's really good career, funny, funny, more to go.
I think ted Lasso is coming back, right. I'm sure
ted Lasso will have spinoffs, as we've talked about the
spinoffs that used to do this, spinoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
Of every show.

Speaker 5 (01:25:14):
Yeah, uh yeah, I mean they're uh, there's some good
stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Good Jayceondega should do.

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
A show about a guy that goes from zero to
country singer in six months. That would be a good show,
I would say.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
I mean he's got the ted Lasso part of it,
so I mean he could probably be able to parlay
it into that. I said though, because they did a
remake of Fletch and they had John Hamm as Fletched, Yeah,
and I was like that seems like that was Jason
Sidekas all the way.

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
John Ham's a good comedic actor though, which is funny
because like the first role everyone knows him as is
Don Draper, and he's this very serious and like mad
Men is so good, and John Hamm is so good
he's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
Neighbors and Friends. Good show.

Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
Yeah, the Apple TV show that they have out right now, Yeah,
check it out.

Speaker 5 (01:25:55):
I met John Hamm. He was very cool. So he
he went to HISO. That's right, he went to the zoo.
And so I was the Super Bowl in twenty twenty,
the year the Chiefs won their first one.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
I dropped like.

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
A hey, John m I Z comes back all zou
and then nothing else happened. And I ran into him
at the All Star Game at twenty twenty two, and
he was just kind of by himself. So I went
over and just like chatted him up and had a
nice conversation and he like couldn't have been more normal.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
That's cool. He see.

Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
He seems like he's got that in him. But you know,
with those actor types, you just you never know. It's like,
I mean, they're actors, That's what That's what cracks me up.
It's like the Bill Burr bit that he has about
Brian Cranston getting a hard time for playing a quadriplegic,
and he's like, it's acting. That's what the whole point
of it is. Like, yes, he's not a quadriplegic. We
know he's not, but he's like people were giving him
a hard time about it, and it's just like, see, if.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
He was a quadriplegic, you wouldn't be acting.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
It's not funny to say that, right, But it's the
bit that Bill Burr does that that lays it out
and it's it's so good. But someone three two one
two five seven ninety got a couple of phone lines
open here if you want to get in on the astro.
Is anything we've talked about? Ryan up in my neck
of the woods, Montgomery. He wants to hop in Ryan,
what's going on?

Speaker 13 (01:27:06):
As much?

Speaker 6 (01:27:07):
Guys?

Speaker 12 (01:27:07):
How are you?

Speaker 8 (01:27:07):
I'll doing this morning?

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Man, I appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (01:27:10):
I'm gonna try to make this quick.

Speaker 6 (01:27:12):
So I used to hate country music.

Speaker 8 (01:27:14):
I think it was funny that you went from music
snobs are the worst to Luke Bryan's technical singing abilities. However,
Luke Bryant is dog water. So I will agree with
you on that if if you want to, I'm been
playing guitar for twenty three years.

Speaker 6 (01:27:29):
I will give you free.

Speaker 8 (01:27:30):
Guitar lessons if you can write a song, and then
now all the money you would have spent on guitar lessons,
I'll donate to the charity of your choice if you
want to take that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:38):
Bet, all right, if I can, Okay, So what do
we how are we setting this? What do you mean
to write a song?

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
So? How how many verses a chorus?

Speaker 5 (01:27:46):
Cause, so I played piano growing up, so I have
a little bit of, like, you know, ability to kind
of understand where it's going.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
But it's been a while. So what do we talk?

Speaker 5 (01:27:55):
Like? What do I have to write? Do I need
to write the melody? Do I need to just write
the lyrics?

Speaker 8 (01:28:00):
So what we'll do is we'll teach you guitar and
then you'll write a basic song, will make it sound
really good, but you got to write all the lyrics,
and then you have to be able to perform and
open my night, so covers and then include your original song.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
How many songs are I have to perform?

Speaker 6 (01:28:17):
I'd say like six?

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
Oh, okay, covers I'm trying to do.

Speaker 8 (01:28:22):
We'll do o G country, three chords in the truth,
nothing crazy, and that'll be it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
I like it. I like the idea. Sounds like a
heavy time commitment, but I like the idea. I think
you're in.

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
I think you're pot committed at this point Ryan, I'm
gonna tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put
you on hold triple. He's gonna get your info. We're
gonna make this happen. This is gonna happen. Okay, all right,
there we go, Ryan, appreciate.

Speaker 10 (01:28:44):
It before you go.

Speaker 6 (01:28:44):
Yeah, before you go.

Speaker 8 (01:28:45):
I want to say the Astros losing. I always dread
listening after just a bad sports day.

Speaker 6 (01:28:52):
I appreciate these little.

Speaker 8 (01:28:54):
Breaks of levity in the when we're all just oppressed
after a miserable loss.

Speaker 4 (01:28:59):
So thank you out a problem, buddy, any anything we
can do. Appreciate the call. I mean, look, you know,
sometimes it's it's best to smile and laugh through. I
mean it's not even tears. It's a it's a mid
May loss. I mean they've won games in a similar
fashion where it's like, oh man, how they get away
with doing that?

Speaker 5 (01:29:19):
It's one sixty two. You have good days, you have
bad days. The end of the year, you hope you
stack up more good days than bad days. I know
it's like a coach cliche, but it's you can't you know. Yeah,
they did blow like a nine run lead, like they
lost a close game.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
It happens. They're still in a decent spot.

Speaker 5 (01:29:34):
It's May, like there's no reason to to freak out
if you want to freak out after a playoff loss
like twenty two, Max Schus are choking against the Padres,
like go for it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
But yeah, this is you know, they lost a game
in May whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
Yeah, it happens and hopefully they can get it back today.
So Ryan, do appreciate the kind words, and also too,
the project to make Ari Alexander a country music star.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
We're gonna have We're gonna have to work on the persona.

Speaker 4 (01:29:59):
We're gonna have to work on the gimmick for you
to be able to play into and be able to
get you in the character for this, I think this
could be a real pay.

Speaker 5 (01:30:06):
Get into character. Yeah, the no guitar is not easy, man.
I Uh, I think we had like a class when
I was in sixth grade and I picked it up
fairly quickly. But ever since then, it just like doesn't
make sense to me. So you know, music is hard.

Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
It is it is, so Ryan appreciate uh the offer
there and what you do uh in the music industry.
But seven one three two one two five seven ninety
is the number to get in let's continue Shena sugar Land.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
It's going on Shena good morning.

Speaker 14 (01:30:32):
Before I jump in here, I just want to drop
a quick to Ri m I z z o.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
Uhah.

Speaker 14 (01:30:38):
So, so why it's mainly cold calling in uh one
of the prior callers here. Try to get to everything
as briefly as I can. For one thing this is
I can't remember when the caller. It was earlier this week.
But when we're gonna be so high on Cam Smith,
let's get his name right. I heard a couple of

(01:30:59):
callers that you know, praising him, but can't get his
name right. So it's Cam Smith. Just so we know,
we went into this season knowing that number one, none
of our outfielders had strong arms. We were going to
get tested.

Speaker 6 (01:31:15):
We were gonna get run on.

Speaker 14 (01:31:16):
Nobody has particularly strong arms out there. Number two, we're
going in playing two thirds of our games with infielders
play outfielders, you know, and still learning since subtleties of
the game playing the ball off the wall angles to
get to the ball.

Speaker 6 (01:31:31):
So you know, we knew that there was going to.

Speaker 14 (01:31:34):
Be some issues going into the season, and right now
it seems to me a spot as just trying to
throw out to the outfield whoever's batting hot right now,
which makes sense. So myers is, you know, are basically
our main offensive production on the team, which nobody would
have guessed this year. McCormick played two games in a row.

(01:31:56):
He had, you know, some strong hits. Two days ago,
had one that would have been a home run I
think in like fifteen ballparks, and then yesterday was one
of the ones got a hit and got helped with
our offense. So when we're you know, only scoring two
runs a game and we've got guys like Christian Walker
that just aren't producing, you've got to put in the

(01:32:16):
outfield whoever is going to be contributing offensively to the team.
Number Two, getting to the points that were made or
tried to be made about pitching earlier. Our bullpen has
been nails this year. I mean, we got Whitley coming up,
and the question is, oh my gosh, of all these guys,
who are just you know, lights out, who are we

(01:32:40):
optioning back to Sugarland or Dfang And it's like, I
know a lot of guys don't even have options. I know,
like Dubin doesn't have options. I think Benetcelza has like
one option. So you know, it's not like we walked
a lot of guys yesterday and gave a lot of
free passes and they scored the hit the two run
RBI that tam but guy, it was because cam Smith

(01:33:01):
was playing deep right for that situation and with that
ball just you know, it took time for him to
get to it because he was playing deep. You know.
Another now, the third run they scored was just a
sac fly. You only score. We only scored two runs
in a game. That's gonna make it hard to win games.
So we've got to have better offensive production our pitching.

(01:33:24):
I don't think you can blame last night's game on
the pitching, even though it was late in the game
that they scored and came back and got it. So
we've got to score more than two runs. And then McCullers,
you know, he's still coming back. He's you know, hasn't
pitched since twenty twenty two. He's got to get stretched out.
For all those who are Hayden on McCullers, you take

(01:33:44):
him out of the rotation, who you going with a
six man rotation with Blanco Hunter fromber and then Gordon
Walter and Gusto. I mean, are what what are we
trying to do. We've got Arragetti get out. We just
had Lesnsky go to so you've got to give it.
And he's he It's not like he's been bad. He

(01:34:05):
had a I think fore innings with no earned runs
his last outing. So and when you've got Fromber and
Hunter Brown pitching, you know near him, you're saving the bullpen,
and you know you're going to have a bull use
to bullpen for McCullers. McCullers has never been a guy
that's going to have give you a nine in incomplete

(01:34:25):
game or even an eight inning game. His pitching style
just isn't that. It never has been so so yeah,
I just I don't know what you know, what the
thought process is of. You know that he doesn't deserve
to be in the rotation right now.

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
Got Sheena appreciate the call, I mean, to the point
she laid out. It's something that we talked about earlier
and it's something that will continue to be a storyline
about this team. I'm not putting last night, even though
you can say statistically that it was on Okre and
Caleb Ard, that's just an overall symptom of this team

(01:35:01):
is you put these guys in situations like that where
time and time again they've come through in those spots,
like even with hitting the first batter of the eighth
inning with an O two pitch and you give up
the next hit.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
I was still believing that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
Steven Okert was going to find a way to be
able to get out of that, because he's done that
he I mean, aside from the Grand Slam he gave
up to Randy a Rose Arena to the Mariners, He's
been pretty nails in those spots. So again, you continue
to put these guys on.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
A high wire.

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
Eventually they're going to get one bad gust to win
and they're gonna fall off that high wire. And that's
again the offense not being able to reinforce and add
on a couple of more runs. Because even when it
was too nothing last night, I was still like, that's
not enough. They're going to be able to put together
some sort of offense and be able to come back.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
And beat you, and they did.

Speaker 13 (01:35:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:35:50):
I mean, it's not easy to win these games when
you have such a tight way of winning everything, like
you can't always go out and win to nothing. You
gotta be able to score more runs. You're not relying
on your b bullpen to shut it down every time,
like they are playing with fire, where Steven Okert is
never gonna have a one twenty ERA for the whole year.

(01:36:13):
He's gonna have a few bad games here or there.
Caleb Ard has not ever had a big enough sample
size to even really know what he is. He's been
good up until yesterday, but like, we don't know what
it is. It's not a big enough sample size with
some of these guys. And Sheen was right, like there's
not not a lot of optionality with this team, and

(01:36:33):
so you kind of have who you have, Otherwise you
lose these guys. If the Astros ever were to option
Forced Whitley and put him on waivers, he's gonna get
claimed immediately. No, yeah, someone's gonna claim Sean Dubin once
if Sean Dubin gets ever gets optioned and gets put
on waivers. Like, they have guys that are useful, and
yesterday is just one of those situations where the offense

(01:36:54):
needs to cover you. You don't have a bray You, you
don't have Brian King, you don't have Josh hater. So
give Steven Okert, Sean dub and Caleb Boord these guys
that don't have them necessarily a big enough sample size
to be able to prove that like they're gonna shut
it down.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
Give them a little bit more than two runs.

Speaker 4 (01:37:10):
Yep, definitely would be nice to be able to help
those guys out, especially with how much they've helped you
out this season. Because you're gonna give the benefit of
the doubt. I'm definitely gonna give it to these pitchers
for how they perform this year, because your two games
above five hundred, because of how well that group has
done this season. Brandon Jason, Johnny, see you guys right there.
We'll get you guys involved in the conversation. Do you

(01:37:32):
want to dive a little bit more into the Astros
pitching here? Who is to think for the good pitching
this year? We'll talk about that here. Sean Salisbury Show
continues here on a Western Wednesday, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
And now you.

Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
Know, there's a kid I went to college with who
became a country singer and it was out of nowhere,
like he was in broadcast journalism, and I don't want
to give away too much information for anyone to figure
out who it is. But his mom was a professional
some sort of singer, I think in Christian something out there,

(01:38:11):
one of the Christian genres, and so like she was
a pro. She had sold, however, many albums and she decided,
I guess, like he should try to get into it.
So I think he can play a little bit of guitar,
and he's got a really like good deep voice, so
he definitely has the voice for it. He can actually
technically sing, okay. I think she wrote most of his
songs and it was they weren't it was bad so

(01:38:33):
and then he did a cover of a famous song.
It'll easily be found if I say who what song
it was, But I don't think it worked out. But
he like toured and did like different like small town
like country radio and kind of tried to give it
a go. And I have no idea what he's doing now,
but hey, he tried to give it a go, and
it was it was interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
That's always the fun part too of you know, you
go on lower broad right there in Nashville and then
it's you know, somebody doing you know, the live music,
like what was it. I forget it was her name,
the Hunter Girl. We were at the Jason Al Dean Bar,
and I just remember, like, you know, she's up there singing,
and I'm like, hm, that's kind of interesting, I guess,

(01:39:12):
kind of playing into the character. And then soon enough,
about a year later, I turn on the voice and
she's on the voice and I was.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
Like, oh, wow, okay, there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
So and it's also too like in Nashville, Oh yeah,
you know, he's part of the music industry. She's part
of the music industry. It's like, okay, I get it.
Everybody's part of the music industry in this town.

Speaker 5 (01:39:29):
We know they're sitting in a corner of a room
writing two of the words to some terrible Luke Bryan song.
That's what part of the music industry. Hey guys, what
are you'all working on? Luke wants us to put something
that rhymes beer. Put a beer, give me a thesaurus.
I got to hide something. Put a beer in my hand.
Oh and you guys are drinking beer. Look you're already

(01:39:50):
in character. Good for you.

Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
But the Astros lose last night three two to the
rais rubber game of the series. This afternoon coming up
un He beat the Timberwolves Game one at NBA Western
Conference Finals last night. Eastern Conference goes tonight game one
there in New York between the Knicks and the Pacers.
Seven one, three two five, seven ninety is the number two.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
Get in. Johnny on the north side wants to weigh in. Johnny,
good morning.

Speaker 13 (01:40:17):
Yeah, Hey, thanks guys. You know that lady said a
lot that she never mentioned Pareas is being basically a
god send to this team for what he's done offensively,
So that was kind of odd that she would mention
virtually every other player on the team other than parreta
Is and what he's done. But that being said, I
was calling about Altuve hurd a statistic yesterday that he's

(01:40:39):
number six in the league hidden into double plays and
he's really impacting the rallies on the top of the
lineup now batting third, and then was doing that at
the number one spot whenever the back of the lineup
was rallying. So he's killing rallies. He really needs to
be batting, you know, maybe six or seventh if he's
gonna be hitting like that, because we can't just count

(01:41:00):
on him to hit the home runs because he's just
not doing it at a pace he was before when
he was younger, and he's really not coming through with
you know, your typical small ball base hit double, you know,
or double. So that's really what's killing our rallies. That's
all I had about that, But I just wanted to
get your opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
I appreciate the call.

Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
I mean, with the L two a stuff, jose Al
two is going to get every single opportunity to be
able to work his way out of this. And at
the top of the order. I mean, it's just it's
it's a conversation, it's not even worth having.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
Yeah, I mean, jose.

Speaker 5 (01:41:32):
Al tuo By has gained enough trust from everybody in
baseball and not just the Astros, to be able to
work out of whatever it is that he needs to
work out of.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Uh, he's not getting moved down of the order.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
And I mean and with Peretis, I mean, look, you know,
Sina laid out a lot of points. I'm not going
to put this on Shena. He has been a godsend
for this team. He's i mean, the lineup the way
it is right now, you don't have him in this
lineup and much less jord On and then last night
you don't have yianor Diaz, I mean, number one, you
probably don't score another run because he gave you one
of the two runs you had. And for what you

(01:42:06):
laid out too, I mean not only offensively, he's played
plus defense over at third base.

Speaker 5 (01:42:11):
Yeah, he's been one of the better players, if not
him and Peigna, essentially the best players in the team.
And Jake Myers I have been carrying the team on
the offensive end. He's played way better defensively on third
base than anyone I would say, even Dana Brown expected
him to play. And he's doing what they brought him
in to do. He's doing what this team coveted him for,
which is he hits pull side home runs. He plays

(01:42:34):
enough defense to get you across on that, and he
draws long at bats and he gets on base. And
so the Kyle Tucker trade in that sense has worked
out the way you wanted to. Cam Smith is the
real deal, or will be eventually. He's still hitting a
bubbly average right now. East Soak Paratus is exactly what

(01:42:54):
you believed East Soak Paratus would be. And then they
threw in a pitcher who was doing solid, but before
he had to have Tommy Johnson surgery and go down.
But you still have a ton of team control with Lozneski,
and you have a ton of team control with Paradis.
You have a ton of team control with Cam Smith.
And Kyle Tucker is going to play one year for
the Chicago Cubs and then he is going to get

(01:43:15):
four to five hundred million dollars, which you're not going
to be able to afford.

Speaker 4 (01:43:18):
Yeah, he'll go to the Dodgers and get it all deferred,
and then you know they'll have yet another All Star
on their team in the outfield.

Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
But the problem is they're pitching. Been a little suspect
over there right now, But that's their problem. And they
go through twenty five pitchers because they're all injured. Their
injurial list is scarier than the Astros pitching injury list.

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
Yeah, definitely is.

Speaker 4 (01:43:37):
But I don't think we're gonna have a lot of
people feeling sorry for them around these parts. Jason Brandon,
see you guys right there. We'll get you guys involved. Also,
do want to get into that Astros pitching discussion.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
We'll do that here.

Speaker 4 (01:43:47):
It is the Sean Salisbury show, He's our Alexander, Dan Matthews, Tripley,
Emanuel Elmore. Sports Talk seven to ninety The Sewn Salisbury
Show continued, Can you imagine that too? And you know,
Jason Brandon will get to you guys here in just
a second, but can you imagine that we go out
the training camp and the player that I'm gonna mention

(01:44:08):
is not there, and you know we're talking with them
O tas all of that. Oh the Olympics. Oh, how
cool is that? Oh, the the Olympics. That's gonna be great.
And it's gonna be every single media availability that that
player is in front of the podium that you're gonna
have somebody who wasn't there at the time before when
they answered it, and they're gonna be asked about it again. Well,
funny enough if that player is gonna be the guy
who's gonna say three words about it and be like, yeah,

(01:44:30):
it's cool, that'll be the answer, and that'll be the
whole answer.

Speaker 5 (01:44:34):
Yeah, No, it's I'm looking forward to Yeah, yeah, yeah'd
be cool. You know I'm representiting my country. Yeah yeah,
that'll that'll be awesome. So the Olympics are cool, though,
Like this is this is cool. Like it's you know,
Scottie Scheffler winning a gold medal and a golf and
they added golf recent years. Uh, flag football. I think
it's a good idea to show off the world football.

(01:44:54):
I know, like there is football around the world, but
like sort of right, like you travel all these different
countries in Europe and other places.

Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
Like they don't care.

Speaker 5 (01:45:03):
I've been to Egypt and there's soccer jerseys of Mohammed
Salat everywhere. They they have no idea who Patrick Mahomes is.
And but those people watch the Olympics. They have a
better chance of knowing who Simone Biles is than knowing
who Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady or whatever. H And
you get to show the world football. I think it's
it's great. I love the Olympics. Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
It's it's one of my favorites every single year. Summer
over winter for sure. I mean that's what I grew
up on. And you know, of course, you know, more
summer athletes from this area as opposed to winter athletes
that are from here. So I mean that's that's part
of it too. Don't sleep on winter though.

Speaker 5 (01:45:40):
Man, let's figure skaters figure skating, speed skating, hockey. You
know you get that there the downhill skiing that's fun too,
So you've got it all at your disposal for sure.
Someone three two one, two five seven ninety Brandon, what's
going on?

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
Good morning, buddy, Good morning man? Hey, what's going on doing? Okay?
I'm playing the detO against Tampa.

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
Yeah, it sounds like you got a lot going on
behind you there. But how's diesel throwing?

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
So far? He's doing good. I got my first drag
out all right.

Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
So there you go, got that one off the board already.
So Brandon, I mean we talked about it. I think
we're two for two now. Of whenever you play as
the starter that day they go out there, they absolutely shove.

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
They have a heck of a day. So you feeling
good about three for three?

Speaker 13 (01:46:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:46:33):
All right, well good because it be nice to get
this win. Come back home, and then you get a
Mariner's team coming in here. Okay, Well there you go.
You've got play by play going with the Brandon's full
service delivery.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
Here I like it. Here comes here comes the closer.

Speaker 4 (01:46:53):
I like it all right, Brandon, Well, hey gonna let
you play and you finish up the game and uh,
hopefully we get a good one out a hundred Browns
today and you know where to find us. Ah, buddy,
there you go, Brandon playing as uh you know, because
was it you yesterday that said it's it's easier to
pitch than it is to hit on that game.

Speaker 5 (01:47:12):
Pitching is so easy if you if you know how
to pitch sequence in real life, it's so easy. You
could put it onto the hardest mode and you can
still have a sub twr A. Hitting is so hard
on that game, you can like because you'll just jam
the controller down and miss, and hitting's very hard.

Speaker 4 (01:47:26):
I go, I go back to the old m VP
triple triple play Baseball a sports days where you know
you just use a little toggle thing to be able
to hit with, and you know, it was much easier
that way.

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
I have not played MLB the show in years.

Speaker 4 (01:47:39):
M v PO five greatest sports video game of all
time and a great soundtrack too, m v P O
four and oh five great soundtrack. When I when I
produced UH the A Team and we would have Blummer
on every single week, A lot of times I would
use music from the soundtrack there and Gordy caught up
to it once and he texted me and goes, MVP Baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
I go, you got it.

Speaker 5 (01:48:00):
Yeah, there's some of these bands that didn't have a
whole lot of success in general that have songs in MVP,
like Stella Star on MVPO four of My Coco Jam revs.

Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
Hot Hot Heat.

Speaker 5 (01:48:12):
Yeah, irock Z song is so good and like, I
bet you could book the Hot Hot Heat to do
the irock Z song for not very expensive.

Speaker 4 (01:48:21):
Let's guess say, I mean, we got Buzzfest coming on
this weekend, you know with our sister station. I mean,
you know, that'd be amazing, like to have them up there, Like,
you know, maybe I need to talk with Elliott the
PD over there and be like, Okay, hey, I'm gonna
give you a soundtrack. Yeah, and see how many of
these groups will show up next year.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
Bring me the do Nots. We got the Noise?

Speaker 4 (01:48:39):
Yeah, yeah that one all American rejects. Although, Jason, before
we get to you, like the the rejects now are
like just like showing up at random places there and
apparently like I don't know this because I'm not on TikTok.
I know, I'm totally a boomer for being nearly forty.
That's fine, but the fiance is and she lets me know.
Like of like all the trends, and one of them

(01:49:00):
is that garage bands are coming back like that gen
Z is like starting our We're out of gen Z now,
I think, but whatever, that it's becoming a cool thing
again is to do a full on garage band of
you know, lead guitar, bass drums, lead singer and go
that way. I could totally see like a late two
thousands emo adjacent like pop punk revival with with the

(01:49:26):
younger audience like Cartel and all American rejects obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
All Newfound Glory in there. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:49:31):
Yeah, those bands that sound I think could do well.

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
I think so too. They can open for me when
I'm a country singer. There you go, there you go.
We're setting up the bill already. I like it. I
like it again.

Speaker 4 (01:49:41):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety Jason
and Katie wants the way in.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
Jason, what's going on?

Speaker 10 (01:49:48):
Hey guys, good morning.

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
A couple of takes.

Speaker 10 (01:49:49):
I didn't know it was gonna have to follow the
legend Brando, but it's a couple of takes and I'll
hang up and listen to the caller two callers ago
talking about two Bay going to the sick So just stop,
you know, just stop. It's don't be a little funk
right now. I think he'd be good for having a
day off today, a day game, especially on a getaway day,
and Hunter Brown going so I think du Bond playing

(01:50:11):
second wouldn't be the worst thing today.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
A couple of things.

Speaker 10 (01:50:15):
Alex c in tron is he in the hot seat?
Is he not? I know the offense has been scuffling,
and it hasn't been really just this year. We've gone
on for a while. And another thing lastly before I
hang him and listen the run.

Speaker 6 (01:50:28):
I don't know if the run's over.

Speaker 1 (01:50:29):
I feel like it is.

Speaker 10 (01:50:31):
I'm kind of, you know, at peace with it. We've
had a damn good run. I don't know if it'll
happen again in my lifetime. I don't think it's Joe
a spot up for it. I don't think it's Dana.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
Brown for it. A guy in charge man.

Speaker 10 (01:50:42):
Jim Crane. You know you don't want to pay the
guys that are in front of you. You don't want
to pay the breaks of the breakmans of the world
and and the Springers of the world, which is okay
because we had Tucker, but then Tucker and then those guys,
you know, those homegrown the homegrown talent. We can't go
out and keep signing aging first baseman to a small
contracts and think that's.

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
Gonna hold over.

Speaker 10 (01:51:02):
You know, we're not gonna be able to keep up
with all these teams if we do not spend money.
And he's got to get off his little I don't
want to give over five year contracts away and over
X amount of dollars away because that's not going to
keep up with today's baseball.

Speaker 4 (01:51:14):
Thanks guys, I appreciate it. Carl Jason. I mean the
run as we've had it from twenty seventeen until I
would say twenty twenty three was really when you could
point to that because fifteen you make the playoffs. You
miss it in sixteen, but you still knew, like, all right,
enough of the guys are here.

Speaker 1 (01:51:31):
We know that this thing can be special. And it
has been.

Speaker 4 (01:51:34):
I mean, you know that's that's there, but it's also
too I mean, look at runs all throughout you know
the course of sports. I mean the Yankees of the
late nineties, I mean they've been still trying to get
back to that point. Even after winning the World Series
in two thousand and nine, the Red Sox, even with
their World Series wins, they've you know, not been able
to have the replicated success that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
The Astros have had. I just think it's gonna look different.

Speaker 4 (01:51:57):
I mean, I think that probably yes here in the
next few years, you're going to have missed playoffs. You're
going to have where another team wins the division and
you might have to fight for a wild card and
again miss playoffs because you don't get in at that
spot either.

Speaker 5 (01:52:12):
It's not going to be easy to replicate, you know,
seven years of straight alcs's. It's the only team that
has been that successful for that long is the Dodgers,
and they had tons of early playoff exits that Dodgers
fans were not happy about. They also have unlimited money,
and look at the Mets right now, have unlimited money

(01:52:34):
and it's been limited playoff success since Steve Cohen took over.
He said when he took over, I want to win
a World Series in three to five years. Well, I
think we're on year four or five here and it's
been early playoff exit, bad year, surprisingly good playoff run
to the NLCS and then this year they're expected to
be good, but it does still feel like they're building

(01:52:56):
and clearly not favored to win the National League. Because
the Dodge are favorite to win the National League, the
Astros still have a chance, like you can call the
Golden Era over. But at the same time, there's not
that much stopping them from having as good of a
chance as anyone to win the American League. These leagues
are so split. The NL is way better than the
American League, and right now you look at the rest

(01:53:18):
of the league that they have to contend against, it's
the Rangers are decent, the Tigers are good, and the
Yankees are good, and everyone else is fine or worse
or whatever. But like you get into a playoff series,
if you're the Astros against any team in the AL,
are you intimidated by any of them?

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
No? Not right now. You could lose to them.

Speaker 5 (01:53:37):
You can lose to the Yankees, you can lose to
the Tigers, beat them, you can lose the Ringers.

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
You could also beat them. There's no one like.

Speaker 5 (01:53:43):
I don't think that with healthy pitching that the Astros
match up well against the Dodgers in a playoff series.
I think the Astros would have a tough time with
the Mets in a playoff series, or the Phillies in
a playoff series, or the Diamondbacks in a playoff series,
but not against anyone in the American League.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
This is a bad lead.

Speaker 4 (01:54:00):
Well as well as they pitched. I mean, that's where
it comes down to the hitting part of it. I mean,
if you hit, they win. I mean, and that's the
part of it that if you get to that time
of the year, like even last year, as good as
the Tigers were playing at that point, if the Astros
hit whatsoever, Yeah, in either of those games, they win
that series and they move on and face Cleveland and
they probably beat Cleveland in that next series.

Speaker 5 (01:54:21):
There was no one scary in last year's playoffs. They
just got out played by the Tigers in a two
game you know, in a three game series.

Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
But that's a beatable team.

Speaker 5 (01:54:29):
They did great with you know, they have Trek Scuball
and then the pitching chaos, but those guys are beatable.
No one is scared of shout out Ridge point along
will Vest. But like it's not the game is not
over when will Vest comes in the game. They other
than scooball. It's a bunch of decent pitchers. Yankees the
same thing. Like they're even down Garrett Cole this year,
and they've got Will Warren and all these random guys

(01:54:50):
coming out of the woodwork to pitch well.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
But so did the Astro.

Speaker 5 (01:54:52):
The Astros have the best pitcher in the American League
right now, and at Game one Yankees Astros matchup of
Mac Freed and Hunter Brown is an even match.

Speaker 4 (01:55:03):
Well, life short when you hit a bunch of singles.
And that's what they did and that's what they're hoping
to be able to get off of here in twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:55:11):
And you mentioned the pitching.

Speaker 4 (01:55:12):
Somebody to think for that will discuss that here as
we close out the eight o'clock hour on the Sean
Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
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Speaker 5 (01:55:32):
There's a show, the Comedy Show's got Mallie Shannon and
some other people called the Other two and they tried
to put it on I want to say Comedy Central,
and it did a few episodes and no one cared
so they threw it on a streaming stary like HBO
Max or whatever the formerly known as Max, formerly known
as HBO Plus, formally known as whatever. Yeah, and it
like did well enough. They got two seasons and it

(01:55:53):
like did well. Okay, it's either that or I'm confusing
her with broad City. Maybe she was in broad City.
I thinks broad City. It's broad City. Okay, so Shania
Twain was in an episode of broad City and then
but she also hasn't been heard from before or since
for a long time, and then she like popped up.

Speaker 4 (01:56:09):
Yeah, if she's just like randomly shows up. Like with
wedding music, I've always said it. You know that you're
at a white people wedding when two songs play, shout
and don't stop believing like it's it's it's almost a
requirement that the DJ or the live band has to
play both of those songs. And then of course, you know,
then you'll get the glowstick halo's out and some of

(01:56:30):
them now do like the hats, the commemorative hats of hey,
we got married. But you have those songs at at
those weddings.

Speaker 5 (01:56:37):
One of the strangest closing songs at a wedding that
I've ever been to. It went to my buddy's wedding
in Saint Louis a few years ago. They played American Pie,
don McLean, which is fine on its face, until they
played all.

Speaker 1 (01:56:51):
Nine verses of American Pie.

Speaker 5 (01:56:54):
I can't do it, and the guy the or was
it DJ or live band singer? The live band would
go out and like stick the mic in people's faces
to sing along like verse six. How am I supposed
to know the lyrics to verse six of American Pie?

Speaker 4 (01:57:09):
Yeah, it's just like, dude, just come to me for
bye bye American Pie like that. At least you know
that I'm gonna know that, Like you put me on
the spot here, what are you doing to me? Thirteen
minutes of American Pie to close out a wedding, And
we're gonna close you out with a really good one.
I think you all are going to enjoy it. And
you know, you start getting the band and for free Bird, yeah,
you know, so you get the whole build up of that,

(01:57:29):
and it's just like all right, first few minutes here,
we're kind of just standing around with our drinks in
our hands, and you know, finally you'll get to the
part where you know fly High, you know Free Bird.

Speaker 1 (01:57:39):
DJ live band for wedding. All right, you said fiance
you're getting married, yeah, JR Live band.

Speaker 4 (01:57:44):
Uh So it's going to be a small service and
we're actually gonna do like a dinner, but then like
we'll do a kind of like reception for like everybody
else later probably go DJ.

Speaker 5 (01:57:54):
I would think, right choice, yeah, because live bands are limited.
They're good sometimes, but they're limited because they play September
and like three Bruno Mars song are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:58:06):
What you hear? White people weddings?

Speaker 5 (01:58:08):
September by Earth Wind and Fire is like the you
have to if you have a live band, they're gonna
set give you a list of the here's the twenty
five songs we can play, and the top of the
list is just September four times.

Speaker 1 (01:58:18):
Don't believe me, just stop. Yeah that one too. That's
all there.

Speaker 5 (01:58:21):
They're like, we know these three brune O Mars songs,
we know September and we can do shout and don't stop.

Speaker 4 (01:58:27):
Because I feel like with a DJ, there's no scouting
trips that are needed or anything like that. Like we
actually had this conversation and all was like because it's
gonna be somebody's gonna give you a recommendation, and then
we got to go to this place and see them play,
and it's just like, like, why.

Speaker 1 (01:58:42):
Is this turning into you out? You're turning into wedding
Dana Brown. You're just sitting there like, yeah, he's.

Speaker 5 (01:58:46):
Got a forty five guitar, but a sixty five drums.
So so the pregame press conference, I'm gonna have, you know,
the Scout's eye is gonna be something that I mentioned with,
you know, while we went with you know, I don't
know Tommy d and the Wonders or somebody like.

Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
That, like, you know, it's we've even pronounced the Naders.

Speaker 5 (01:59:04):
Yeah, Theneaders, No, the Wonders.

Speaker 1 (01:59:07):
Yeah. What a what a movie? What a what a
what a pull by you right there.

Speaker 4 (01:59:12):
I appreciate what you bring to the program here, Ari
Alexander again Arian for Sean here Sports Talk seven ninety
Astros trying to get the rubber game of the series
this afternoon against the Rays. That's gonna be coming your
way here in just about three hours actually, so lunchtime
baseball today for the Stros and also to Western Conference
Finals last night, Game one going to the thunder over

(01:59:34):
the Timberwolves Eastern Conference is gonna get going the night.

Speaker 1 (01:59:37):
NFL news, the Tush push.

Speaker 4 (01:59:39):
Ban vote is supposed to come up today, but the
Lions had the playoff receding proposal out there, and according
to Adam Schefter, about ten minutes ago, they pulled it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
They said, no, we're good, it's fine. Football is doing great.

Speaker 5 (01:59:52):
I don't know why you have to change that much stuff,
like it's crushing everyone watches, We're all super excited for
the playoffs, we're all super sided every week to watch football,
and there isn't that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:03):
Much that needs to be changed.

Speaker 4 (02:00:05):
Well, it's not only that, it's also I mean, you know,
you had Roger Goodell, YESA saying that they do anticipate
that they will have sixteen up regular season international games
in the near future, which it's not surprising. I mean
what they're at like eight now, where they're playing in Brazil,
playing in Germany England of course. I mean, yeah, eventually
we will have games in Australia and in Asia and

(02:00:29):
you know, just other places because you mentioned it the Olympics.
I mean, I think they're going to try to kind
of parlay off of that of countries getting to see
this sport that to them will almost be like what
curling is to us, where they're gonna be like, oh man,
this is kind of exciting. I want to watch this.
I you know, I want to start learning how to
play this.

Speaker 1 (02:00:46):
Yeah, why not.

Speaker 5 (02:00:46):
Bring you bring the world together football diplomacy and send
him to Minsk, Belarus get the dictator Lukashenko out of
there through the power of Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 4 (02:00:56):
That's it, the erotic journey from Milan to men. Yeah, Rochelle, Rochelle,
there you go.

Speaker 5 (02:01:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:01:02):
For the Seinfeld fans out there, go ahead and shout
you out with that one. But the Astros conversations in
Hot and Heavy get into a little bit more of that.
I do want to weave in a couple of texts
and things that I had here for the show today,
even though next week they'll get back on the Ota
field and then soon enough Mini camp and then I mean,
pretty much like once you hit July, it's football season

(02:01:24):
at that point, Like once you're there after fourth of July,
it's kind of like what New Year's Day is for baseball.
Like after you get north of that, you're like, all right,
we're getting close football's coming to a close. We don't
really care about basketball at this point, so we'll start
getting pitchers and catchers showing up and we get going.
So that's when football gets going and you get into

(02:01:45):
that part of the year.

Speaker 5 (02:01:45):
Yeah, late All Star game this year for baseball, and
then immediately the week after it's training camp time. And
you have a team here that has an opportunity to
make some sort of run. Although there's three really good
AFC teams in their way that they haven't been able
to to get passed.

Speaker 1 (02:02:01):
But yeah, it's this. It's good.

Speaker 5 (02:02:03):
It's good to have a team that can win that
there is exciting football that you're not going in going,
oh my god, we're seven to ten this year, Like
what ninth pick are we going to get to draft
some offensive linemen?

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
You have to have a quarterback. They have the quarterback,
they got some weapons.

Speaker 5 (02:02:20):
You know, this is a year that you can look
forward to because we had the surprise year, we had
the supposed breakout year that didn't really break out. And
now the expectation is that there's a baseline of like
this has to be a playoff team. And my hot
take is that you should go six and oh in
the AFC South. The AFC South is garbage. The Jaguars
are not good, the Titans are not good. The Colts

(02:02:41):
are not good. They went five to one last year
with a stupid loss to the Titans. You can go
six and oh they're better than those three teams.

Speaker 4 (02:02:48):
That would be the hope. I mean that Titans game
last year. What a frustrating loss. But that's the NFL
that happens. Let's actually continue that next because the roadmap
the future. People already looking at what the text. I
feel like the roadmap is in front of us in
terms of how this thing is going to go, especially
when they have to make certain decisions. We'll talk about
that here start the nine o'clock hour. It is a

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Speaker 4 (02:04:15):
Ten to eleven today, because then they get into Astros
on deck and then the game coming up at noon
right here Sports Talk seventy ninety, Hunter Brown, TODJ. Bradley
on the Moland for that one. Stro is trying to
take that one to win the series. Then come back
home for the Mariners for four, which, by the way,
to a little bit of help with that last night.
How about the White Sox holding on load the bases

(02:04:37):
up there the Mariners do in the eighth inning with
one out, you get Mitch Garver who strikes out looking,
and then you get a Boozer, Cam Boozer to be
able to get Julio Roderiguez to fly out to in
the inning. And as soon as that happened, you were like, okay,
White Socks, you might do something here. The Pope Leo
helping you out here.

Speaker 1 (02:04:57):
Good for you.

Speaker 5 (02:04:58):
I mean, classic Mariners a lot, They're just not able
to hit. They went with an opener yesterday, they went
with back to back. Casey's Casey Legamina opened. Casey Lawrence
was the bulk guy. Went five innings of one run ball.
So both the Astros and the Mariners got five innings
of good pitching from someone you would not have expected yesterday,

(02:05:19):
with Brandon Walter for the Astros coming in in five scoreless.

Speaker 4 (02:05:22):
Speaking of you know, obviously Pope Leo the fourteenth being
a White Sox fan, I mean it is reasonablieve that
he is a Jeff Blum fan.

Speaker 5 (02:05:29):
Yeah, so he has to he has to know who
Jeff Blum is. He has to be excited when he
hears Jeff Blum do the TV call.

Speaker 1 (02:05:37):
Think about that, Like the Pope.

Speaker 5 (02:05:40):
The Pope of all the Catholics is like, hell, yeah,
Jeff Blum walk off. At some point in his life,
the Pope has been happy because of something that Jeff
Blum did.

Speaker 4 (02:05:50):
Our Pope loves Italian beefs in old style. Like the
actor comedian Ike Baron Holtz. I saw a clip of
him on The Rich Eisen Show, and he like that
means that the Pope is an Ozzy Gehan fan. Yeah,
the Pope is a big Paul Knerko guy. Yeah, which,
uh I think I was looking this up when we
were talking about Pete Rose yesterday and the career ops Plus.

(02:06:12):
I think Paulko and Pete Rose have the same career
ops plus.

Speaker 1 (02:06:16):
Make Jermaine Dye fan. Oh yeah, Jan Yaiba.

Speaker 4 (02:06:21):
Game some guys Aj Persenski, although I don't know, maybe
maybe with Aj it was a little bit of yeah,
he could be too much y Dwayne Wise. There's there
were some names on that team. We remember him, Scott Pasednik.
I mean, you forget that Pasednik with that fight between
Michael Barrett and the Aj Persenski that he was in
the middle of that that he tackled Michael Barrett after

(02:06:42):
Barrett put a right hook on Aj Persenski.

Speaker 5 (02:06:46):
There's so few good baseball fights that I feel like
we remember, like all the classics.

Speaker 4 (02:06:51):
I was gonna say that one was one, uh. I
mean a lot of them in the you know, seventies
and eighties too. I mean, like I always remember the
Ray Knights. Did he get into it with Oz Smith?
Like did Ozzie Smith like slide in hard there and
then Ray Knight Smith is so nice? Who fights Ozzie?
I was gonna say, or was it Barry Lark? And
I'm trying to remember who it was that slid in?
It was either the Reds or the Cardinals that the

(02:07:12):
Mets were playing, and they had it in the eighty
six thirty for thirty and you see Ray Knight just
start throwing hands and it's just like nobody does that anymore.

Speaker 5 (02:07:21):
Mets used to Yeah, I used to have a little feistiness,
feistiness to him. Are remember when Albert Bell just absolutely
decided to kill fernand Yeah, well, Fernando Vinya is like
a classic. Like you want to name a guy, Fernando
Vina's top of the list, He's up there.

Speaker 1 (02:07:36):
I mean it was Eric.

Speaker 4 (02:07:37):
Davis, Okay, he'd be he'd be one that I'm not
really sure I want to try.

Speaker 1 (02:07:42):
Yeah, Eric Davis is a big guy.

Speaker 4 (02:07:44):
Yeah, and then Ray Knight just said I don't care,
I'm going in Yeah, and he definitely uh backed up
those words.

Speaker 1 (02:07:50):
But yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:07:51):
The Astros Western Conference Finals Game one going to the
Thunder last night over the Timberwolves. The East gonna get
going tonight NFL meeting still ongoing. The allion's pullback on
the receding for the playoffs, the tush push ban especially
gonna be voted on today. It sounds like.

Speaker 5 (02:08:10):
I'm so not interested in the tush push ban or
not ban. Just do something with it and let's stop
talking about it.

Speaker 1 (02:08:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:08:17):
I'm kind of to that point too, And I mean,
it's s the point of talking season football where it's okay, OTAs,
we're excited about that mini camp, same deal, just because
it's some sort of football on the field. But then
it's like, Okay, you just get back to me second
week of September and then we can start talking.

Speaker 5 (02:08:36):
I have a guy that I want to talk to
at mini camp because I ran into him, and so
I'm not going to tell you who it is. You'll
have to guess off air who it is, but it's
the player. I ran into him at Super Bowl at
some of the events and he was really cool, and
the Texans signed him this offseason. So I'm waiting to
get to know the guy a little bit more. Also
side note, I've heard Christian Kirk phenomenal golfer.

Speaker 4 (02:08:55):
Yeah, yeah, so I saw the video too. They were
talking about it was either he or Kuym Baron, of
who is. The kickers are always the kickers, and quarterbacks
are usually always the golfers.

Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
On the team. Punters too, you'll get the punters involved.

Speaker 5 (02:09:07):
Fair Baron's really good at ping pong apparently, oh okay,
And they're the guy that runs him. And back when
they had case Keenum, they're the guys that ran the
ping pong table. I remember Keenum used to always be
on that ping pong table there in the locker room.
But you know, a couple of days ago, brock Perty
signed his deal with the forty nine ers sixty million
per So that immediately has people like me and you

(02:09:28):
and like everybody else saying, oh, well, now the Texans
are on the clock for CJ.

Speaker 4 (02:09:32):
That deal is gonna get done next offseason. That's going
to happen, and he probably will be north of you know,
sixty sixty one, sixty two, sixty three, something like that
in terms of annual value of the contract coming to
his way. But then it's also too you're gonna make
a decision on Will Anderson Junior. They're gonna take that
fifth year option Will Anderson Junior. They're gonna say we

(02:09:54):
take care of CJ. This year, we get another year
somewhat rookie money on him. Year after that is when
things get interesting with the Texans, because it is going
to start to have some of the offseason storylines of
they've traded this guy, they've released this guy and one
of the guys, and this is gonna make some Texans
fans shut or to even think about this. But I

(02:10:16):
think that these are the last couple of years of
Nico Collins. Maybe maybe not. Maybe you find other ways
to clear some of the money. You're gonna have guys
that are aging out of bigger contracts. You don't have
a super expensive offensive line right now, you've already cleared
all that the salary off of Laramie Tunsel. You're paying
a lot of money to Daniel Hunter, rightfully so, because

(02:10:38):
he's really good. But Daniel Hunter is gonna be gone
in a couple of years.

Speaker 5 (02:10:42):
I think you keep you know, you have your building box,
your quarterback, your number one receiver. You don't have to
pay running backs. We know that you have Will Anderson
and you have Derek Stingley, and then you can figure
out everything else around it. I just the way that
they handled the draft this year of going out and
getting Jayden Higgins and then Jalen Knowle, who a lot

(02:11:03):
of people think is going to be able to fit
the Tank Dell role for now, I mean because I mean,
when Tank Dell comes back, if I'm not mistaken, he's
not going to play this season.

Speaker 4 (02:11:12):
I think we can all pretty much agree on that.
So then he's back next year. What do you get
out of him next year? And then I guess that
would be the fourth year of his deal at that point,
so he would be playing his free agent year there.
I mean, this is where you start to Once you
have the guys who are able to be on the
found money of rookie deals and you find a quarterback

(02:11:33):
in that in that mold right there, then it's like,
oh man, the rest of the roster is wide open
for us to pretty much go out and get whoever
we want. Because that guy's fine, we don't have to
worry about him right now. But then you do have
to worry about him. Then all of a sudden, the
penny pinching starts.

Speaker 5 (02:11:47):
Well, it also just depends on what what can you
get out of Nico Collins and is he going to
deserve continuing these extensions and CJ's got to have a
number one. And right now, you look down the rest
of the roster, these guys aren't super high picks. Like, yeah,
as much as you love Jayden Higgins to draft him
in the second round over an offensive line, but he's
still a second round pick. Right Noel is still a

(02:12:07):
third round pick. And you lucked into Nico turning into
what he's turned into because he was a third round
pick who was banged up and he wasn't who wasn't
the guy that he is now, Like he has transformed
his body. He was always banged up and now he's
been less so hurt, although there's still some soft tissue
stuff that pops up with him. But when he was
in his first you know, his rookie year here, I

(02:12:28):
don't think anyone could have imagined like this is going
to be an Alpha number one, super good, top ten
NFL receiver. This is where also too, when you get
into this category of you've paid the quarterback. Now you
know that a fourth of your salary cap has gone.
This is where Nick Cassio, who's been incredibly good overall

(02:12:49):
with the draft, that's where it's like, all right now,
that's when you really have to be even better because
you can't have that situation pop up and then you've
got to pay Will Anderson Junior soon. So that's another
what you know, thirty million off the top right there
that you're taking away from the cap. So I mean
that's about ninety.

Speaker 4 (02:13:07):
Plus million dollars that you have of however much against
the cap that you're going to be going with, Like
you know, for example, Miles Garrett forty million per Daneil
Hunter right now thirty five point six. I mean, I
would probably think that Hunter is in his final two
years with the team, Max Crosby, guys like that. I mean,
that's probably the going rate that you're gonna have to
pay for Will Anderson Junior when that time comes up.

Speaker 5 (02:13:27):
Yeah, it is, and it's going to keep going up.
I mean, the inflation of these contracts is going to
keep you know, Will Anderson probably get forty right, Like,
he's one of the best defensive ends in the league.
He's going to continue getting better and it's going to
be the market rate. But then at the same time,
the salary cap is going to keep going up. The
NFL is doing great, and these guys are going to
keep finding more and more space the rest of these deals.

(02:13:48):
I mean it's football, right, Like they structure these deals
in a way the teams can, for the most part,
unless you're the Browns and Deshaun Watson, for the most part,
can find a way to get out of it somehow
without two problems that the new or owned Saints have
been pushing back the tax man for you know, however
many years, and it's finally, you know, finally come due.

Speaker 1 (02:14:08):
But they can get creative. I'm not that worried about it.

Speaker 4 (02:14:12):
The credit card bill definitely does come due. Let's get
back into a little bit of baseball here, because something
happened a couple of nights ago that somebody took massive
exception two and they could not be more wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:14:25):
And we'll discuss that here.

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Speaker 4 (02:15:37):
Christian Walker is not batting cleanup today, it's batting fifth
over at first base. You get Pania Perettas Altuve as
the DH today, hitting one through three rds. Back in
the lineup, they're in the cleanup spot and catching you
get Walker and Myers. Five and six, you get camp
Smith out and writes Brendan Rodgers over at second Mauricio

(02:15:59):
Dubond getting the start out in left field today for
Hunter Brown.

Speaker 1 (02:16:02):
Yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 5 (02:16:02):
So it's a lineup that's meant to accentuate Hunter Brown
or what he does and throws a lot of ground balls.
But Rogers at second base, you have an outfielder and
left who can throw a little bit. In Mauricio Dubond,
you have your best center fielder out there. Camp Smith
has continued to earn playing time, and you get Jose
al tub off of his feet while you are Don

(02:16:23):
Alvarez is still on the il and moving Christian Walker
down to fifth. I mean that's he's earned that too,
and not in the way that he wants. But he's
just not hitting well enough to be in the fourth
spot and having Jake Myers directly behind him, and Myers
has been hitting really well this month.

Speaker 4 (02:16:41):
Making a prediction Walker Homers today, why not he likes
that fifth spot? Told you how while he's hitting that
fifth spot, I think there's gonna be some comfort there.
And then Joe look, any other injuries, anything else that happens.
Christian Walker hits fifth Yeah, let's will it into the atmosphere.
Let's make it happen. Christian Walker is one for two

(02:17:03):
with a home run off of Toaj Bradley in his career.
I think you might be onto something here you go there,
you go for your beat the streak. Who knows, you know,
maybe that's somebody. Although it's one of the other things
too that it's one of my sick games that I
like to do with Twitter during a game is especially
while watching the Astros, is to wade into the waters
that is Astros Twitter, and one of them is to

(02:17:24):
search a player's name and see what it is. And
of course you know, strike out runners in scoring position.

Speaker 6 (02:17:29):
All of that.

Speaker 4 (02:17:29):
You'll get to people who are angry about that. But
it's often people like you with beat the Streak or
with Daily Fantasy or anything like that, that are like,
this is the last time I take Christian Walker Like
those are the ones that always pop up whenever his
name comes up on Twitter.

Speaker 5 (02:17:45):
Yeah, gambling has massively changed how people talk about players,
often in a really negative way, and you hope that
you can separate the like these are real people that
might not be having the best day at work when
you're relying.

Speaker 1 (02:18:00):
On them too.

Speaker 5 (02:18:01):
This is on you for relying on humans and or
sometimes horses and or sometimes the lesser times greyhounds.

Speaker 1 (02:18:10):
I think that's still legal.

Speaker 5 (02:18:11):
I don't know, to win you money, like these are
not you know, these are not robots.

Speaker 1 (02:18:16):
There is a wide range of outcomes.

Speaker 4 (02:18:18):
You want to feel a certain way about yourself, go
to a Vegas sports book, like early in the morning
when like I don't know, Indonesian like kart racing is happening,
and you see people in there that are actually wagering
on it, and.

Speaker 1 (02:18:28):
You're just like, dude, what are you doing with your life?

Speaker 5 (02:18:30):
Yeah, well you haven't lived until you've bet on euro
Tour golf at three am.

Speaker 14 (02:18:34):
Dan.

Speaker 4 (02:18:35):
It's like a buddy of mine would like tell us
about you know, certain like soccer bets, and we're just like,
you know nothing about them, Like what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (02:18:42):
Yeah, but it's on it four in the morning, and
you gotta have something to do.

Speaker 13 (02:18:45):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:18:45):
Sometimes you just got to throw ten bucks on Adrian
moronk to win his three ball in Dubai, all right.

Speaker 1 (02:18:53):
I would think of other things to do.

Speaker 4 (02:18:54):
Sleep would be one of them at that time of
the morning, especially out there in you know, Vegas, wherever
you're at. I mean, I feel like you probably might
be going in at that time. So if that's the case,
then you know, get up, bloody Mary Michlata something like that.
You're going for the next day, come back from omnia,
sit down at the sports bar and throw a little
bit of money on. I love betting on Euro Tour golf,
by the way, I think that's uh, you can win

(02:19:15):
those three balls. Give me a little Richard Bland on
there to win his winners group.

Speaker 5 (02:19:20):
You know. Okay, not a bad idea, but it's one
of those you wake up in the middle of the night,
maybe had on the golf channel for whatever reason, and
that's on. You're like, oh, yeah, hey, they're actually playing
right now over in Jakarta or somewhere like that as
part of the DP World Tour. Throw uh yeah, throw
some money on the guys when they're playing at the
LEA what's the golf course in France, Le Golf Lacional

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or whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:19:41):
I'll go with it, yeah, or of it.

Speaker 4 (02:19:43):
Yeah, that sounds good, and that's that sounds like that's
probably the place. But uh yeah, the Astros coming up
a little bit later on this afternoon. The Red Sox,
though they've got a former Astros coach as their manager,
Alex Korra. It's graduation season two, and this isn't something
that is new, Like, you know, it wasn't something you know,

(02:20:03):
him stepping away for a game to go to his
daughter's graduation. I mean, like I remembered when I covered
the Braves, for example, Freddy Gonzalez was the manager. He
took the entire series off when one of his kids
graduated and Carlos Tosca had the series for them, and
he was the acting manager because they were out on
the West Coast and he's like, I gotta go back
and you know, go to graduation.

Speaker 1 (02:20:22):
So I'm gonna take the weekend. That's fine.

Speaker 4 (02:20:24):
But Alex Korra did it, and he met some backlash
yesterday from it. So his daughter just graduated from Boston College.
And Mike Felger, who is on ninety eight to five
the Sports Hub there in Boston, called the decision for
Kora to step away kind of preposterous, adding on, it
just sets a tone. It's just a tone. You set

(02:20:47):
an example you set for the team. It's not like
they need him there to make the pitching change or
lay down the bunt. It's the leadership optics of the
whole thing. It's a very easy choice for him to
say nothing's more important than tonight's game. He just does
it by example. Nothing's more important than this game.

Speaker 1 (02:21:04):
Dude.

Speaker 4 (02:21:04):
It's the middle of May game, and I get it
it was against the Mets, But like you just kind
of already like proved your own point of it's not
like they need him there to do this or that. Okay, fine,
it's one game. It's all good. He's going to be
a dad for the rest of his in her life.
He's going to be the manager for only a short

(02:21:24):
amount of time. This is a prime example ari of
don't ever put something like this in front of the
people who matter the most, and that's your family. I
also am not one hundred percent sure that I believe
this guy right, Like how many times are people just
manufacturing opinions for just reaction.

Speaker 1 (02:21:44):
That's in play? That does happen?

Speaker 5 (02:21:46):
Sure, like all the time, Like all this one Soto
stuff that's going on, Like how much of that is
Like do you actually believe that whatever this is going on,
or just like yappin for attention. This feels like a
yapp and for attention thing to me. That's one of
my favorite responses to have is whenever like I see
or hear somebody say something and I'm just like.

Speaker 1 (02:22:04):
You don't even believe that.

Speaker 4 (02:22:06):
Yeah, And it can also come into play quite a bit,
like where it's you know, you see somebody, Oh, they
just eviscerated this guy, and I'm just like, you're playing
up for the cameras, you're playing up for the microphones,
Like are you really being honest with your audience? In
most chances, I would say probably not.

Speaker 5 (02:22:21):
No, they're playing a character like do you really think
And I know I've I've read articles about like people
talking about how sincere like Skip Bayless is or how
insane he is about whatever it is that he does.
But like, do you really think that he's sitting at
home and Lebron does something and he's like his day

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is ruined.

Speaker 1 (02:22:42):
Because of it? No, it's all fake.

Speaker 4 (02:22:44):
Well, there is that, And it's also though, like especially
he's one of the ones who's on the list for me,
like I haven't given you the concept triple he knows
about the concept of me. Of the lists on the
side of the refrigerator, the pay No Mind list, Skip
Bayless is on that list.

Speaker 5 (02:22:58):
Yeah, I mean I don't think I think that, Like
you're you're coming up with something to talk about. If
it's May and Alex Korra took a day off to
go to his daughter's graduation, and you're turning it into
a whole thing. It's also clearly your ship does not
work anymore because if it if it did, you'd still
be in the position that you were in. Like, yeah,
it's that's one of those things where too it's Boston, right,

(02:23:20):
and so you feel like you have to have this
like hardcore like masculinity take about like this guy's got
to come into work every day and work at the dockyards,
and like also he's a baseball manager. Of all the coaches,
they do the least of having an impact on whatever
it is happens on the field.

Speaker 1 (02:23:40):
Right.

Speaker 5 (02:23:41):
He got thrown out last night, Yeah, because Walker Bueller
missed a you know, didn't get a call and he
cussed out the umpire and then Cora gets thrown out
and then the rest of the game they had their
bench coach managing and they won. Like the difference between
Alex Korra being there and not being there for No.
One of One's sixty two is nothing. It's just I

(02:24:04):
mean contrived. Some people will buy it, some people will
go with it. I mean, I do agree with you
on this thing, because it's just like you won the
game first and foremost, So that's fine.

Speaker 1 (02:24:17):
It's one day.

Speaker 4 (02:24:18):
Like, it's not like he's taking time away because I
don't know, think of a reason that he could possibly
take time away that's not really that serious, Like nobody's
in you know, danger of passing or anything like that.
So you want to be with them and you know
in all those moments. But like it's his daughter's graduation,
and for the reasons that I just gave you there, Like,

(02:24:38):
I don't think there's a single person in that clubhouse that, oh,
Skip's not gonna be here tonight because it's going to
his daughter's graduation. Skipper really care about us? Yeah, No,
there's no way. Like the look, these guys are people.
They understand.

Speaker 5 (02:24:50):
I guarantee you they're gonna at some point grow up
and be like, yeah, I want to be at my
daughter's graduation.

Speaker 1 (02:24:55):
They all understand.

Speaker 5 (02:24:56):
It's Also it's one day, Like most of these guys
are so locked in all on the details of what
they have to do. And keep in mind who the
clubhouse leader is. In that clubhouse right now is Alex Bregman,
who thinks about the minute details of swing mechanics and
relief pitcher release points. Do you think that he cares

(02:25:18):
that Alex Cora took a day off. No, he's got
to go study Ryan's stannick splitter finger grip, all right,
Like these guys don't care.

Speaker 1 (02:25:26):
They have their own stuff to worry about.

Speaker 4 (02:25:27):
Well, I mean, and you think about it too, from
in this case managers, but like coaches in this industry,
like we're around it close enough that we know, like
when you're on the job, you're on the job. The
family is secondary and it's unfortunate and you miss a
lot of those moments too. So I think like kind
of Cora looks at this of saying, hey, I've missed
first games, I've missed all of these other things because

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we've been playing a series out in LA against the
Dodgers and I can't be there for that. This is
one of these where it's in Boston. He's right there,
he's right down the street, and he just says, look,
I'm not missing this one. Like there's many things that
unfortunately I have to grin and Barrett and I have
to miss it, but this is not one that I
can go back at and say, you know what, I'm
really glad I managed that Monday night game against the

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Mets and mister graduation.

Speaker 1 (02:26:13):
No, he's not gonna say that.

Speaker 5 (02:26:14):
I don't think John Henry cares either. There's no way
that they care that he's going to take one day
off in the middle of the year. And it's also
like it's not a Pennant race, like it's may It's fine.
This is such a made up for attention take. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:26:30):
Well, he got the most of it right there, because
Cora did have to talk about it. As he was
asked before last night's game, said, people have their own opinions.
I bet those people have families too, and at one
point they have to make decisions as well. Bet they
made decisions for the best of the family. I made
the decision for my daughter. For those who don't understand,
I'm not going to try to convince them. It is

(02:26:50):
what it is. I made the best decision for my girl.

Speaker 1 (02:26:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:26:53):
Fine, like the fact that even had to answer that
is stupid. Yeah, I mean I saw that yesterday and
I was just like backlash. I was like, what the
hell could be back slash from missing a May nineteenth
game against the Mets.

Speaker 1 (02:27:03):
Yeah, that dumb.

Speaker 4 (02:27:05):
Yeah, Well, some people want to wait in those waters.
We try not to hear on The Seawan Salisbury Show.
And I think for the most part, our batting average
is good. All right, let's get back into the astros conversation.
As the pitching as good as it's been this year.
This guy's not getting their flowers enough and we'll talk
about them right here. It is a Sean Salisbury's show.
He is Ari Alexander KPRC two in for Sean, Dan Matthews,

(02:27:29):
Triple E Emmanuel Elmore Sports Talk seven ninety The Shawn
Salisbury Show continued. Was A, I mean he doesn't really
look the part, you know, because we've been through that.
But B he was writing all the songs for everybody,
and then it was finally like they were like, dude,
your stuff is really good, like you know, and you
can sing, you can play like you need to do it.

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And then finally got his shot and now he's considered
to be one of the best. I mean, he's awesome.
I'm a big Stapleton.

Speaker 5 (02:27:57):
He was the guy that was sitting in the corner
of the boardroom going like, this is the one that
rhymes a beer.

Speaker 1 (02:28:01):
I don't think that he was trying to sell anybody
on it.

Speaker 4 (02:28:03):
I think he was quietly like writing it out and
like everybody's like, you know, hashing things out and doing
all that, and then he just slides the paper across
the table and it's just like that's the one puts
the pen down on the paper and gets up and
walks off. He's probably that cool with it right there. Yeah,
like you know, it's everybody else, Oh hey, we should try.
Like there's nothing better than like a you know, a
conference room of people trying to pitch ideas and then

(02:28:25):
somebody is just sitting back. Like it's almost like Billy
bean in in Moneyball, where he's just sitting there and
everybody Alhwa's got an ugly girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (02:28:33):
He's just like, what are we talking about? Yeah? Can
he play baseball? Yeah? All right? Give me, all right,
give me topics.

Speaker 5 (02:28:38):
Here, cold beer, tight jeans, dirt road, big truck.

Speaker 4 (02:28:44):
I'm gonna snap my fingers and point at Pete. Guys,
you do not want me to point at Pete again? Yeah,
I always love that scene. It's a movie that I
don't think it's enough run, but good movie.

Speaker 1 (02:28:53):
Too long of a movie.

Speaker 4 (02:28:54):
Well that's and then also too, it's it's another one
that you know we were talking about the music and
beer snobs are the book was better than the movie.
That's another one that people will throw at you. Who
the book was better? It's just like, dude, you're trying
to squeeze in a three hundred page book into a
two and a half hour if then that's even long,
but into a shorter amount of time frame. Like, yes,

(02:29:15):
of course some things are going to be changed for
cinematic entertainment. That's what the whole thing is. What do
you knew here?

Speaker 5 (02:29:21):
Well, Billy Bean too, he's got to be excited that,
like they got Brad Pitt to play him, Like could
you imagine a better Like all right, hey man, we're
optioning the book.

Speaker 1 (02:29:28):
Who are they gonned to play me? Yead pitch Well,
Sean talks about that all the time.

Speaker 4 (02:29:31):
He knows Billy Bean and he said that that's something
that he's brought up with him before he goes, hey, look,
if nothing else happens to you in life, which had
a pretty accomplished career in baseball, He's like, you can
always lean back on the fact of Brad Pitt played
me in a movie.

Speaker 5 (02:29:45):
Yeah, you imagine how incredible that would be. You know
how many times you're like, a god, who would play
me in a movie? They're like, we're gonna get Brad
Pitt to play you. That reminds me of those interviews.

Speaker 1 (02:29:55):
All right, hey, we're gonna ask the off the wall
stuff here. If somebody was to play you in a movie,
who would who would play you?

Speaker 5 (02:30:01):
I love the confident like the white guy confident answer
and Denzel Washington on Denzel Washington to.

Speaker 1 (02:30:07):
Play me in a movie? What I like? Denzel Washington? Hey, Dan,
who would play you in a movie? Lu Diamond Phillips,
that's it would play me?

Speaker 5 (02:30:15):
There you go, all right, you know, I don't know
just that that's a good one, right there, Just throw
out like an off the wall one, so then like
it kind of like makes them feel awkward and then
they're like, oh yeah, be serious.

Speaker 4 (02:30:24):
Yeah, it's just like, dude, you asked the question, I
answered it. What do you want from me, He can
do macronus, he can play me. There you go, there,
you go. See we're solving the problems here in terms
of you know, some of these you know, original and
I say it in air quotes, original questions that people
will ask, like one of the ones that I like
to ask pictures here, and you know we'll get into
the astros pictures here is. We used to do this

(02:30:45):
all the time on a former show I worked on,
and we would have Colin McEwan And one of the
times we had him on, one of my guys asked him, goes,
if you go to the grocery store and there's the
produce department, what piece of produce could you pick to
be able to throw for a strike?

Speaker 1 (02:30:58):
He said, a key lime, a key lin.

Speaker 5 (02:31:01):
Oh my god, he said, probably has the same density
as a baseball. No what, well, just like the weight
of it is what he was getting at.

Speaker 1 (02:31:08):
Like too small.

Speaker 4 (02:31:09):
Well he did throw that into you know, into the equation,
but he said that probably in terms of the weight
and being able to you know, everything to follow through
all of that, that he feels like he'd be able
to throw a strike like an apple, he said, would
be too big, an orange the same deal or.

Speaker 1 (02:31:25):
Just too big for sure? Now I'm thinking of like
a kiwi.

Speaker 5 (02:31:28):
I think a kiwi decent density, the size spits in
the palm of your hand like a baseball does. I
think kiwi would be good. Key limes are too kidding me?
What about a regular line? A regular line would be fine.
First of all. Second of all, limes are oblong. You
throw a baseball as a perfectly circular ball with seams.
Why would you want an oblong shaped fruit? Wouldn't you

(02:31:49):
want something more circular?

Speaker 4 (02:31:51):
Like I'd say, like maybe even you know, because kind
of tomatoes fit into that category two? So maybe like tomatoes, Yeah,
I mean because because it's all though. That's the problem
is that, like you know, you can only grip it so,
you know, so hard, because then you know it could
squish in your hand and you're like, oh man, damn,
I didn't really get to throw that.

Speaker 1 (02:32:09):
Mangoes are maybe too big.

Speaker 5 (02:32:12):
I think a kiwi is the point is the best
thing here, because a kiwi is close enough to being round.
It is dense with the fruit inside and the ship
and that the shell. What's the the I don't know,
you know what I'm talking about the outside of the
key husk. The yeah Kiwi husk is uh is thick
enough to where you can dig your your fingers into it.

Speaker 4 (02:32:32):
Interesting. Interesting. I wonder if Josh Miller would have a
good take on this.

Speaker 1 (02:32:36):
That's a good idea.

Speaker 4 (02:32:37):
Yeah, you know, maybe that's the if I ever, you know,
run into him, is be like, hey, Josh, look not
for nothing here, damn Matthews. By the way, Sports Talk
seven ninety senior around just setting a chance introduced. If
I took you to a produce department, what could you
throw for a strike right now? That'd be a hell
of a first impression, that god question. Maybe I would
actually think, you know, if any of the astros who

(02:32:58):
could answer that question, the clubhouse, arrag Getty probably would
be the guy that would think about it the most.

Speaker 5 (02:33:04):
It wasn't Asky. Those two guys would actually have a legitate,
right Ryan Stanek back in the day have been phenomenal.

Speaker 6 (02:33:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:33:11):
Yeah, Notice I wouldn't go to Ryan Presley with that
because I think press just glare you down. Pressley would
be funny about it later, but he do like the
fake glare and just he'd just be like, this is
why I don't answer questions. It would also be a
point to air me out right there he look at
everybody else and be like this, this is why I
avoid you guys after games. Questions like this are why

(02:33:32):
I step away and tell you guys, I'm not available. Yeah,
and then I didn't want to answer questions about produce.

Speaker 5 (02:33:38):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, look, it could be
a plug, it could be something you know, to be
able to feed into somebody throughout the brand earlier.

Speaker 1 (02:33:45):
We don't.

Speaker 4 (02:33:45):
We don't have to, you know, go go further into
who that is. We all know who it is. But no,
that's that's that's something that keep keep in mind because
I do do a lot of the Saturday games here
for on deck and for the tenth inning, and a
lot of times I'll go to the ballpark because I
do want to get a player. So the next time
I have a picture, sure as you're born, that's going

(02:34:06):
to be asked, Yeah, get.

Speaker 5 (02:34:08):
When Urgedtty's back with the hand injury of the broken
thumb Arragedtty's gonna have like an analytical, like smart answer
about it. I agree, I agree, So hopefully I get
him on a non start day there at the ballpark.
But speaking to Josh Miller. The flowers need to go
to the man.

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out the show. Also, if we have time here before
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the world with your pet, that's something you would be
interested in. We'll talk about it here. It is the
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Speaker 4 (02:35:53):
Last couple of minutes of the show seven one three
two one two five seven ninety against seven one three
two one two five seven ninety. We've been a lot
of astros today and haven't had a chance much to
be able to give the flowers to a guy that
at times last year took it on the chin from
some of our callers and from some of Astro's Twitter, dude,
I mean, how much more do you have to see

(02:36:15):
from this pitching staff the better part of the last
two and a half years than to say, oh, Josh
Miller knows what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (02:36:21):
They're good. They're really good.

Speaker 5 (02:36:22):
They're good from an organizational standpoint all the way up.
And there are organizations that are terrible at this, the
Rockies being the biggest one that don't know how to
develop pitchers and the Astros. Do you have guys that
have come out of nowhere, you have guys that are
waiver claims. You have guys that they just get from pluck,
from wherever, and they turn them into useful pictures. Taylor Scott.

(02:36:44):
It's a great example career nine era, great year circle
of trust last year. Obviously it hasn't worked out this year.
And it's relievers right like they have a shelf life
one and year to year. There's so much volatility in
the relief game that you never know if is going
to be good or not. Steven Okert, I know last
night whatever, coming out of nowhere. He's a guy that

(02:37:05):
they just picked up on, you know, on a minor
league deal. Brian King late round pick out of nowhere,
non prospect. He is their seventh inning guy right now.
Like they have done a great job turning random guys
that you would never believe are going to be good
pitchers into useful players. Yeah, I mean, you know you
mentioned Okret this year being another kind of reclamation project.

(02:37:26):
I mean, hell, last year you say Kakuchi of having
all the struggles he had there in Toronto, and then
he gets here and they're like, yeah, that change up
that you've got, throw that a little bit more and
it's going to help you. And then sure enough he did,
and it got him a nice little deal after the offseason.

Speaker 1 (02:37:38):
They fixed him immediately.

Speaker 5 (02:37:39):
It was like one start, they're like, hey, by the way,
you have a four seam fastball that needs to.

Speaker 1 (02:37:45):
Be up in the zone.

Speaker 5 (02:37:45):
I don't know why the Angels told you to throw
it low in the zone, but stop doing that. And
then he goes out and as a two seventy era
because they fixed like two minor things like stop throwing
your curveball, throw this more fastball needs to be up
in the zone. And then it's such an easy face,
such a fix that makes sense. You're sitting there and
going like, why are the Angels stupid? Why are they

(02:38:06):
looking at this guy that there are the Angels?

Speaker 1 (02:38:09):
Sorry the blue Jay? Why are the signed with the Angels?

Speaker 5 (02:38:12):
Why are the blue Jays stupid that they're looking at
this guy and they know that all the metrics show
that he should be throwing his fast behind the zone
and they just don't have him do that.

Speaker 1 (02:38:22):
Why?

Speaker 4 (02:38:23):
Yeah, some things that are just incredibly mind boggling in
terms of, you know, how organizations run their things. But
I mean, obviously the Astros, I mean you touched on it.
I mean there's an organizational standard. Hey, this is how
we handle our pictures. This is how we do it.
This is you know, how we take guys from where
they are and get them to overhear. And I mean
that's something that he's got a hard enough job on,

(02:38:44):
you know, the thirteen guys that he's got, But then
you factor in all of the other guys that have
had to make spot starts for you, Guys that have
come up for you and seemingly been able to kind
of pick up from where they left off there at
Corpus or sugar Land or wherever whenever they get them
up here.

Speaker 5 (02:38:58):
And there's so many guys that they have to deal
with and just know this is how this guy fits
into the system. And then they all have their unique
tendencies and the different things they do, and they do
teach certain things, right, So a lot of their pitchers,
they want them to learn the fastball that Christian Haavier throws,
the rising quote unquote rising fastball, the.

Speaker 1 (02:39:18):
High vaa vaaaa.

Speaker 5 (02:39:20):
If you want to go fastball, the above average vertical
attack angle, above average fastball, and so Aarraghetti throws that
kind of a fastball. They have a kid in Tripa
right now, Miguel Iola, who throws that kind of a fastball.
And then they teach the different sweeper and all the
you know, the things that fit into what a modern

(02:39:41):
pitcher is today. They have been among the best in
baseball at doing this for years and years, and they
have turned non prospects JP France in twenty twenty three
into viable major league pitchers. Though nothing bad to say
about the Astros pitching coaches and the Astros pitching development,
Brandon Walter perfect exa ample guy that they signed off

(02:40:02):
the street and said, hey, tweak this because remember we
were talking about him yesterday.

Speaker 1 (02:40:06):
You asked me, what does he have?

Speaker 5 (02:40:07):
Well, I'm looking at his twenty twenty three usage and
he's a sinker sweeper guy. Well, last night he was
throwing different stuff. They came in and said, stop doing this.
Start doing this. Five scoreless innings, first time in the
majors this year, signed off the street.

Speaker 1 (02:40:19):
They're good at their jobs.

Speaker 4 (02:40:20):
How amazing is it too, that you know, you talked
about him being a crafty lefty last night and I see,
you know, he's ninety ninety one somewhere around there, And
it's like there was a time where it's like, oh,
that's not bad for a lefty. Now it's like you're
throwing that like it's almost like when we were growing up.
I'd be somebody throwing in like the mid to high
eighties at that point, and it doesn't seem like it's

(02:40:42):
much of a difference. But it's like, no, like now
like ninety five is an average fastball, Like back then
it was like ninety two was. It's it's amazing to think,
like how much like that's grown.

Speaker 1 (02:40:52):
The game has changed.

Speaker 5 (02:40:53):
And there's a Code of five baseball who I nail
all the time for their Tony Gwyn obsession. Actually, he
put out a really good chart. I forgot what day
it was recently, but it was basically average slugging and
ops against certain velocity fastballs, and it goes down from
eighty whatever all the way up to one hundred. And
you can see that every one to two ticks up

(02:41:15):
on a fastball, it gets harder and harder to hit.
So for all these little league dads that are like you,
go out there and beat Greg Maddox and I don't
care how hard you throw it. Velocity doesn't matter. Just
throw strikes and just try to paint the corners wrong.
There's a reason that pitchers in Major League Baseball chase
velocity because the number show the harder you throw doesn't
matter where.

Speaker 1 (02:41:35):
It is, the harder it is to hit.

Speaker 5 (02:41:37):
So yes, guys throwing ninety seven are gonna do better
than guys throwing ninety three.

Speaker 4 (02:41:42):
Man, we didn't get to the guy that you know
is traveling in the world with his cat right now.
But luckily Gordy's a cat guy, and Gordy's in with
me and I'm a cat guy.

Speaker 5 (02:41:50):
Well there you go. His name's Henry's very cute. Oh
that's right, person. I got two of my pups. Love
our dogs, Pixie and Choco. Shout out to them. But
that's gonna do it for dude. Great stuff this last
couple of weeks. I have really enjoyed it, man, tons
of fun. And you're on the list. You're gonna be
back on the good list, not the not the do not.

Speaker 1 (02:42:08):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (02:42:08):
That's it. Yeah, you're you're you're on the fifth notepad.
There the good list. Okay, you know, probably needs to
be closer to the top, but definitely you're on the
list of people that will definitely be invited back.

Speaker 1 (02:42:18):
So no, appreciate it. Man.

Speaker 4 (02:42:19):
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