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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this. Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
To usc Troup's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthewscus, this is the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
And that's a ground ball hits off the mound fielded
by the second basement. Connor Filever races the second to
get the out and throws to first for the double
play too in the inning. So Isaiah counter Philpa starts
the twin killing. Now the one one and that is
lined in the left center field for a baship that'll
score a Heineman Clement around third and coming home. The
photo to play by Dubon on a Hoppit gets past
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the catcher Diaz. Clement slides in safely. Runners go to
second and third and the Blue Jays have tied it
at three. The O two to Carratini, and that's a
ground ball pulled right side, feel the by Guerrero.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
He goes to third with it and they get out
to bay.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
How about that Vladimir Guerrero Junior throwing across the diamond
and getting the lead runner out to bay one two.
Guerrero takes off balls grounded right side, diving stop by
walker throw a hole not nearly in time, Straw slides
in and the Blue Jays went at four to three
and ten.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Serenity. Now that's all I can say, Sean serenity. Now
with that we say away we go in. Good morning
here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I mean, you.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Probably expected a little bit more disdain out.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Of me, but I think at this point, me and
most Astros fans we're just beat down, man like we're we're.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Just like, it's it's a all right. You can yell
at the hitters.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
It clearly doesn't matter because well they go two for
ten or two for eleven with runners in scoring position
and leave eleven runners on base again and the ninth inning,
Brian and Bray you, well, he's been what he's been
the last few times out that you've put them in
the ninth inning, anything but locked down.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's weird man. Good morning to our listeners out there.
You guys, triply, this is no surprise that they're in
this position. This is who they are. We've said it
a million times. They have the inconsists. I don't know
what we're battling for, not you, but just anybody to
think that you're going to get anything different than what
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you've seen this year. I don't know how much body
of work we need to see for you to be
convinced that this is going to be one of those
every game you're hoping on a wing and a prayer
that they hit at the right time. That's what you're hoping.
And the devastating part, it didn't look to me like
Luis Garcia has a It looks to me like we're
back to rehab for a while and possibly surgery again.
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Just from my vantage point, when it happens that and
you know, and when I knew when I tore my knee,
I didn't have to have anybody come tell me. Now,
I'm not a doctor from a distance, but when it
happens that quickly, that's not it's been me. That's uh, oh,
that's that's been it's it's been bothering me. And that's oh,
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my gosh, this is not good because you don't run
him out there if it's been bothering him.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
So that's devastating.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I care more about Luis Garcia than I do about
the fact they lost last night. For the team, yes,
but the dude's been through a two month rehab and
surgery and it doesn't look like a two month two year,
say two year, twenty four months.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Basically two months is in there, but many two years.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And now now he's got to go through the the
the unfortunate part of waiting for the result, and in
his mind maybe he already knows. And it's sad. Man,
it's a bummer because the truth is all the competition
and it's sports and all that, and we're supposed to
be desensitized. It sucks taken from a guy who's blown
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it out twice, and I know it's different for him.
Legs for a quarterback and arm and you know the thing,
you know, the arm they're throwing with. I just the
emotional and mental grind that goes with if it is
as severe as it looked, is just brutal. It just
just is. I know, Oh, it gets paid a lot.
(04:14):
Don't bring money and all that stuff into this. Now.
I hear that from people, Well, you get paid, it
makes it easier.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well that's like saying, well, you get a golden parachute
on your way out, even though it's not CEO parachute,
but you got let go because well you had to
miss a few days because you were sick. And then
they just just did you couldn't play anymore or you
had to leave your job prematurely. Yeah but you got
a lot of money. Yeah but you got a lot
of money. But guess what, you got to go through
the riggers of going through all the things because it
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won't last forever. It's just that there's human stuff that
gets these athletes and it's just a bummer for a
good dude and having to reh So what's next? I
don't know, but it didn't look good. And I know
we're gonna get the well, we're gonna wait and then
we're gonna look at the pictures when you have to
come out after what in any of two thirds, it's
it's not a good sign. That's the one thing we
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do know. And now we'll let the doctors do their thing.
But astros not clutch when they got a chance to
score runs and Toronto comes through in extra innings and
bray you, I'm going to tell you, man, I know
how good he is. It's amazing what one inning will
do to change a guy's approach and how effective they are.
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I take you back to Presley lights Out postseason. Guy
here gets demoted to the eighth inning, and it's like, hmm,
that right there is uh, that's you know, it's tough
to deal with. And now you get the you move
to the closer role, and we've all said he's fit
for it, and he may be a great closer, but
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he's had his struggles since he's got that role. It's
it's I mean, there's a pressure that goes with it.
They end up losing the game last night, and now
it's one game and this is exactly what it was
going to look like in March. It's looking like it.
Yet I don't think any of us thought then we'd
be having the same Groundhog Day conversation in twenty twenty
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five that we had in twenty twenty four, the inability
to get clutch hits with the runners in scoring position.
And and here we are. Well, you mentioned Brian Abrady.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
He's given up eight earned runs in three and two
thirds innings in the month of September.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
He has a fifteen e RA right now with five
earned runs.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Now, remember how last year everybody wanted Josh Hater out.
You're begging for his ass back, now, aren't you, and
getting a break you back in the eight hole in
the eighth you know, in the eighth inning and and
getting a trying to find that routine. But it can't
surprise you with the way the season's gone, mixing and matching,
trying to find places to put them and seeing if
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one role works for one guy something works for somebody else,
and injuries and will they be back, and some guys
that came back still have not. You know, you're still
wondering who the colors is and I mean, there's just
so many and they don't. It's it's amazing the lack
of consistency at the plate for a bunch of time
outed players. I know it's baseball. I know it's a
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long season all that, but at this stage of the game,
I really don't care how long the season is. The
Astros are just say this is they're going to have
to hope they get fortunate, get great pitching, and are
fortunate in a game that they score enough runs and
they get lights out pitching, because they're they're not long
for six seven runs against good pitching right now. They're
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just not twenty twenty five. I'm talking about on a
consistent basis. It's not and to make it bad doesn't
mean they're not the talent at all. That it just
means that if you don't know who they are one
hundred and forty five games in, then then you're probably
haven't been watching much this year. Last night epitomize kind
of some of the things that have gone on this year, right,
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And normally you'll get pitching here to close that out
and to jump out keep a lead and not lose it.
And guess what, the pitching couldn't do it last NI.
But you had to know that after all this time
and after all they've done, at some point, pitching is
gonna get caught up with At times they're good, I
mean they're gonna you can't expect lights out all year long,
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especially when you're mixing and matching starting you don't know
from day to day who you who you're getting and
what order, and so it's I'm I obviously have faith
that the talent of the team and the resilience, but
like I said before, grit, resilience, talent all that doesn't
mean a hill of beans if it doesn't equal production.
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And at the plate this year they've been an average
production team. They just have well in some cases they've
been below average. Oh and in many when you're talking
to set in the bar for if you're going through
each individual and the stats of runners and scoring position,
all that real far blow and the power bats. I mean,
their powers got to be bottom third in the league
still statistically it has to be when it comes to
home runs, it's it's and at times they've struck out
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more it's it's it's just a team that's it's there's
nothing there. They're not a great team. They're a good
team that has their put it this way. They play
like a first place team that can win a World Series.
Sometimes they play like a team that won't belong in
the playoffs. Sometimes and they look like a team who
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can get to the playoffs. But it's gonna grind, have
trouble getting through the most of the time. In twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Well, I mean, it's just it's exactly a conversation that mean,
you had last week of do you trust this team
to go on a run in a good way or
do you trust this team to go on a skid?
You point more towards the skid right now, I mean,
because you've now lost two straight series. You lose one
more game in this series, that's gonna be three straight,
and I mean, there's no sign that this team is
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going to consistently put this together.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
If you're just going by twenty twenty five history, this year,
there's a good chance that you're gonna get that they've
had more damn then damn and so this isn't why
now we expect them to be damn because two years ago,
last year, three years ago, well unfortunately, And can they Yes,
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but so can Seattle, and soakin Texas, and so can
Oakland at times, so can so So can you know,
maybe not Pittsburgh, but so can Toronto. Soaking the Yankees.
There's a lot of SOA cans out there, But the
question is how long can you do it? And how
long can you sustain it? And will you get not
just hits? Would they bang out twelve thirteen hits last night? Eleven? Yeah?
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So you bang them out, but it's when you get them.
I've sat a million times when you're up nine to
one and you're the team you're playing up nine to
one and you hit two solo home runs in the
seventh to get it to nine to three. Great, looks
good on the average, stats go up, get you paid.
But solo home runs with nobody on base and you're
down nine because you didn't score with runners in scoring
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position the first six innings or a problem. And at
some point in time nobody complained about the pitching. They're
going to go through those things where they don't have it,
and you got to pitch a bunch of bodies and
wear them out and losing Garcia now's taken away some
innings and a guy who's a grinder and who I
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absolutely love and feel sick for over this. But this
is I mean, we want to say the pitching has
carried them on their back for the better part of
two years. When you say that, well, y'all, two Bay's
a hall of it, Yeah he is. All those things
are fine. The ord gets three more hits last night,
no huh, but they still lost. And so whenever the
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pitching has a down game or somebody gets hurt and
you got to use you got to empty the bucket
and pitch a lot of people. I can tell you
one thing and go the rest of the season. And
when this season's over, you're still going to say the
strength of the team was pitching, period. And quite frankly,
the distance between the strength of one and the strength
of the other is not close. In twenty twenty five,
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it's not close. It's about time you start putting Graham
on Grandpa on your arms and carrying them a little
bit if you're the hitting. And right now it's hard
to trust that they'll do that because they haven't in
twenty twenty five. And I'm sorry, I'm not. I don't
have twenty seventeen or twenty nineteen. I mean good teams
on my I mean teams that could bury you from
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one to nine. I don't have that on my mind
right now because one hundred and forty five games or
so in you have not seen it consistently. And good
pitching usually beats good hitting, and this year good pitching
gets as when you're pitching well against the Astros and
they're doing their thing, the Astros are spending more time
going after a pitcher's pitch than their own.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
It's like the meme of Master Splinter and the Ninja Turtles,
where the top frame is young Ninja turtles and Master
Splinters leading them along. So it's like the pictures of
the young Ninja turtles, and then you get older, it's
the pitchers leading an old Master Splinter.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
No it's in your family. Parents take care of you.
Forever they turn ninety, might be time that you take
care of them, you know, and make they get to
come to Sunday dinner instead of them planning that you do.
You know, all those things and not they're old. But
in using that terms or metaphor, that's in truth what
the Astros hitting needs to do, because you can get
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lights out pitching, but you can you're gonna get lights
out pitching from a couple of these other teams in
the postseason, which means three to one still sends you home.
If that's to score two games in a row when
you're playing in a short series, you get to go
home again. So potential's there, but we can't keep down.
We're inside the teams now. You got seventeen games to go.
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I don't know when the sprint starts, but I just
started the sprint thirty games ago. But that's just me, okay.
I don't start the sprint in football December seventeenth, as
the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
How that starts last year.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
You don't start to sprint a little earlier, you just
miss out qualifying for all the big stuff. You get
close and it looks at that two thousand and nine
can't start the sprint light happened to us when I
was in Seattle. We had a few games, I mean
my rookie year, dude, we were loaded talent wise. We
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started and then we went on a run. David Craig
couldn't miss if he was He had a blindfold on
and threw it behind his back for about five straight games.
It was like, I mean, I remember the last game
of the season, We're playing Denver. It's a Saturday game
in Seattle. Elway's team came to town. Dude, we beat
them like a friggin drum. I mean, we hammered their
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ass six ways to Sunday and twice on Sunday hung
forty plus on him. I believe, I mean our deed,
we destroyed them. They might have went on and got
to a super Bowl or this was nineteen eighty six.
I don't know where they ended, but they ended up
going on in the playoffs. Final day was Sunday. The
next day it was us in three we needed. There
was three games. We had to have Pittsburgh lose, Kansas
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City lose, and one other team lose on a Sunday
it's don where do you want to be? We were
ten and six, it was sixteen games schedule, and there
you go, and they got beat by the Giants. Right,
so we dude, if we get into the playoffs, and
I know, if my aunt had ball, she'd be my uncle,
just like we're talking about Cincinnati. If we get into
the playoffs, look out. Now, if we had have taken
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care of our business on an early game we get
beat by, I might be wearing a Super Bowl ring
because Kenny Easley, Jacob Green, Kurt Warner, the original Kurt
Warner running back, a dominant offensive line, pass Steve Largent,
Darryl Turner. We were loaded everywhere. Dude, Keith Butler, linebacker,
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former defensive coordinator for the past. I mean we're loaded.
And then Dave Craig, who'd been a pro both thrown
for a million yards. You see Dave Craig walking in
and you say that guy's an NFL quarterback and then
you go watch and play like, uh, yeah, we were
and we got into I don't know what's the final
score of that season, Like I said, last game, So
we have to wait. So on Sunday we wake up
getting ready. We're ten and six to get the playoffs. Please,
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but we waited and had to rely on somebody else,
and dude, it was one of the freakiest things. Pittsburgh
has some big win Kansas City blocks and scores. Three
special time I think it was two or three special
teams touchdowns. Albert Lewis blocked a kick, took it to
the house. I'm sitting there watching games on says, you
got to be kidding me. Just help from one. All
three of them took care of their business. We took
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care of our business on Saturday. On Sunday, we relied
on somebody and everything that could have gone somebody else's way,
but ours hit us right in the face. And guess
we had to do on Monday going there and clean
out our lockers and get ready for the next season.
It's a rough.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Feeling, but I mean, when you don't take care of
your own business and you have to rely on other people.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
We were getting in We were so good. Yeah, you
guess what, Sometimes you have an almost season. But remember
that late September game when we urinated down our leg.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
That was us.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I promise you there wasn't a team in the AFC
that would have beaten us if we'd played like we
did against it, if that momentum, that confidence continued, you
were not beating us in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
There's going to be a lot of regret this season
if if it doesn't end the way the Astros hope,
which probably already is well, it's it's definitely trending that direction.
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Speaker 7 (18:33):
It's going to be a hell.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
On two.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
To me, what I heard was the good Lord let
us down by not letting the Astros win. But remember
Toronto Blue Jays pray too. Just because they're in Canada.
I mean they don't play the same God you do.
We just we need the well. I mean there's good
Catholics in Toronto. Yeah, well there's was everybody just Catholic well,
the order of our well is it just? Catholics are
the only religion out there? Christianity there, but the the
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order of precigure a load.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
I mean, look, you know, if you need is it absolution?
What do they what do they try for? And in
Buddhism whatever I need. I need an absolute win. That
would be nice. And you looked like you were on
your way to that. And then the Ninth Inning happened
and Brian a bray you happened.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
But I just I don't know why you you you
you're the You killed their vibe. I didn't kill their vibe.
They killed our Kay did you hear what he said yesterday?
And today Astro's bats Even the Good Lord didn't help
him yesterday, and the Good Lord helps everybody sacrilegious. Do
you're gonna go You better go throw a few this weekend?
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Oh no, I'll throw a few, and I'll take my
penance like a man.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
You better throw a few, You better throw them out there,
I'll that's between me or the Lord. That's between me
and the Lord. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I mean, and I
don't want to play lord right here because I can't
keep up.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Well, I just I think what we need now is
the Great Sisters over at.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I w a.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Incarnate word to incarnate work. Yeah, well but they're they're
the rally Nuns.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So so we're gonna do anything we can to get
a rally down.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Damn right, we will.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
We're going to use the Good Lord is As a
matter of fact, here, when I say lead dog, I
mean the Good Lord's out in front.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
I'm gonna go out too, because I know that Mattress
Mac was very instrumental in twenty twenty one for the
rally Nuns.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Now you're blaming us on mattrespect so she just let
me lay it out for a second triple A God sakes, hey,
between this and Deed slam the friggin plane, Well, Mattress
Max was very instrumental in making the Rally Nuns happen
in twenty twenty one. So Roy, anybody listening up there
in between Tidwell and Parker on forty five, Well thanks
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for the address. Well, of course everybody knows where mack
he is.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Well, I mean, just in case you didn't, there's a
there's a constant reminder. But next week against the Rangers
and Mariners, we need the rally.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Nuns, I thought I heard you say it's Max's fault,
and that's not what I said. You said, that is
not what I said. Okay, I cleared it up again.
The Good Lord you said you prayed to the Good Lord.
Probably we prayed to the Good Lord. We did, and
according to you, the Good Lord's Catholic left every other religion.
We are the ones that started everyone, you know, just
to worth keeping score here, don't keep score if it
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wasn't for that busy body Martin Luther hammering a note
to a wall. Yeah, see, then you got and then
you tried to Did you say that matt Smack's not
rooting him on hard enough? Oh? No, he is. There
you go.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Mattress Smack is one of the rally.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
If there's anything, if there's anything I'm ever going to
criticize about anyone, it's never going to be Mattress. You've
got to ride with it, is matter, right, Okay. I
just I'm just you know, I don't know, I don't know.
My my antennae uh was up and it just said
did you got two of them? Double an ted? I'm
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that I'm that Uh well, what's the guy's name on SpongeBob,
square Pants, the little the little dude, what's his name?
Not Patrick, the little one, the little Mike, Yeah, Plankton, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Say, he's gonna say if you're gonna ask me for SpongeBob,
you were gonna get Nah. You know SpongeBob. He eats
crab Patty and he's got Patrick Starr. Do you hate
that's played by Dabber? You hate SpongeBob and that hurts?
You heard a lot of kids feelings. Luther is the
other guy. Okay, who cares?
Speaker 7 (22:18):
I care?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
No, you don't. Well, I just know who they are. Well, no,
I I just I remember who the characters is. No,
you don't know squid word is Okay, I know that
he's one of the characters.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
But that's it.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
You're squidty dog.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
You It just wasn't for me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I just think you disdained Dan, you know, for kids
and Joe Burrow. When the season is over and they
have their their exit meetings, the Astros, whatever that ends,
hopefully it's in the World series. Their number one conversation
is gonna be you know what, let us down, disdained Dan.
If they do, then I will try to do what
I can.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
But then at the same time, look, if you're gonna
hit me with the bad times when you do win
another World Series ring, then.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You watch some credit for the damn there. But so
you're gonna go let's let's go back up for a
second here. You say, what you throw a few out
out there this weekend? When you go to the Lord,
I mean to you, you know, to throw you what
do you say your penance? You say what I say, well,
how many? Very part of the sacrament of reconcil What
I say when I said, uh, how are you going
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to throw?
Speaker 5 (23:22):
You say, that'll be between you and the Lord?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Right, okay, the.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Lord, the Lord speaks through the Holy Father.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
What if what if you knock on that thing and
you have to go through your your you know, your
repentance process. Well, the best is when you have to
do it face to face. But what happens when you're
in the in the you know, what do they call
true accountability? What do they call the room the confessional? Confessional?
That was called that's I mean, that's how I would
call just the confession room confessional, right, confessional? What if
you you go in there and and it's you forgive
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you know, you're saying, forgive me father, and it's Joe
Spot and sitting next to him is Christian Walker in
the same room. You know what, you know what it
is with both of you guys. All right, that's not
really confessional behavior. I don't care, okay, And no.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
F bombs allowed in confession. No, No, I would not
swear in the Lord's house.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Yeah, I have too much for you.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Afraid you were afraid to say nut cutting time yesterday
and I had to.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
But that's just you. What do we tread lightly? Just
make it sure?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But it wasn't even six thirty, wasn't even digest. So
you're saying, if they lose, but if they win, you
want some credit for this damn thing.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
It could be nice.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Yeah, I mean, look, you're gonna ride with me in
the bad times, well, then when the things get good,
you ride with.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Me then, right, And if you're not gonna ride with
me the bad times, don't expect me to ride with
you in the good ones. Is that been anbod there go? Yeah, Okay,
I feel you, I feel you. No, I just was
trying to blame it on somebody, so I figured I'd
blamed blame the lack of hitting on you. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
I mean, I said, we can blame it on Triple
if you want. No, No, I know he's out of this.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
He's want to blame it on Sky Mike good, Yeah,
could blame it on Sky Mike.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
What about Clip of course? Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
I always blame it on Cliff every single time Hall
monitor on sales. We can blame it on Oh, we
can always blame it on them, trust me. We can
always find a way to do that.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So there's a lot of people we can just I
confess they did it.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
They are one hundred percent that you invite them over
to your house for a party, and most of the
friends bring something, you know, whether it be I don't know,
buffalo chicken dip which is delicious, or maybe baby daisy
of course, yeah, there you go in some daisy French onion.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Of course, best in the business, all of it.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah. But you know, then you also have a a
person or two who will show up without.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Goodies, but take them when they leave. Bingo, bingo.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
This day.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
This doesn't stop there. You can I take a plate
to go take a plate? What are you gonna do?
What do you want me to get out saran wrap.
I no, we want you to give him some tupperware. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Hey, so you got some to go containers. Well yeah,
they're for me. Except for me.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Brother, you don't take a free meal to go. That's
not how this goes, brother, Right, I feel you, and
you know what.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
J T.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Jason, Andrew, Jerome Roger. Look at you. We're gonna get
to you on the other side. But in the process
we'll involve you in the conversation.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
See, look at you. You're a quick study over there.
Good for you.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I just looking for somebody to blame. Dude, it might
as well be you. Why not, that's hey, you know,
it's just just take trains and automobiles.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Just come after me. That's fine.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I'm an easy target. Bear that bird, I get it.
You're gonna you'll wear it, you'll carry it on you shoulders.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
That's fine, feeling.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I'm just trying.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
I'm just over here trying to sell my shower curtain rods.
That's that's all I'm trying to do.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Any Nothing wrong with that, all right? No, No, No,
shower curtain rings. That's salesman, that's it. You got some bibs,
you better sell some bibles too.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Then the preaching the gospel though guy, I didn't have
anywhere to go for Thanksgiving, and then Steve Martin went
down the street and said, coming with us.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I'm not gonna lie. Gets me every time I brought
a teer to my e. It still does every time
you like he did care because you know what that
feels like real life.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
It is one hundred percent in real life.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
A holiday season, guys try to cover it up, and
you know else when you invite him over and you
kind of change that like yeah, that still to this day,
it brings a teer to my every time. Every time
I see it, I get choked up. Really gets me
go back to blaming you for the But Dan, I
don't can't build you up too long to just to
coin a phrase from well, I wouldn't call him a friend,
(27:31):
but so is Dan. You shouldn't be talking baseball. Leave
that to the baseball guys. Oh of course, yeah, I
mean right, Rhino told you that, right, right, right right,
that's the non player get you're.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Not you're not allowed to if you didn't play, that's
time according to you know.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Then then we'll do then we'll do the picks segment
and I'll I'll get more picks right than he does,
which is what which is what Peter Schrager.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Did, but known to happen exactly.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Yeah, And then it was funny on Monday Night Countdown
how he was buddy buddy with him, because I'm.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Sure he probably I'm sure he probably got the riot
act from at some point in time. There's a tweet
coming out with a video saying, oh, yeah, man, I
got great teammates, and man, the one who knows football
better than anybody is Kyle I mean Peter Schrager. You
know it's cot Oh dude, you know it's coming to
sprint the other way that's coming down, the pandering, the
play cading. Do you bury your teammate on the air. Yeah, No,
(28:20):
it's it's all coming. All right, we got one spot
open for you.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
As Sean said seven one three two one two five
seven ninety against seven one three two one two five
seven ninety does a Sean Salisbury show Sports Talk seven ninety.
But you know, speaking of if you have people over
and you invite them over, well you know your word,
Sean viddles, Well you better have some good vitals for him.
And just like we did last week from our birthday
(28:45):
up here, get some brisket, get some pork ribs, maybe
some potato salads and beans thrown in there too. Jbar
M Barbecue. They supply all of that, and they do
they not supply some good stuff. And Peter said, what's
the phone over? You don't need to worry about the
phone number because you don't need to make reservations, No reservations.
Need to get up there, walk in, getting that line,
which if there is a line, and the reason say well, Sean,
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if there's not a line is oh, it's popular.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
They keep it moving. Why great food. People know what
they want and if they don't, doesn't matter. Close your
eyes and point to something you're gonna love it. And
then you get to walk indoors outdoors, get your bar there,
cold drink, great food. I roll through it all the time, sides,
and it's very rare that you go to place and
everything you like and I'm the stuff that maybe you
didn't even think that you wanted, you love. And that's
(29:29):
where you get it at Jbarren Barbecue. Aside from great
customer service, the venue is awesome, great parking, which when
you say, well, Sean, doesn't everybody And that answer would
be no, but it's convenient and the food is off
the charts, and that if you're judging barbecue, I think
when it gets right down to it, that's how you
want to judge it, and find me somebody better. I
encourage you to try them all. You'll end up at
Jabarren Barbecue, whether you're in there to stay and go
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outdoor enjoy a game on Saturday, or whether it's taking
it home or bringing it to work like you did
to celebrate a birthday. There's a reason why people keep
doing it because they don't leave hungry and they love it,
and so do I.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
Well, you know, you go to most barbecue places and
you look at it and you say, where am I
gonna sit? The venue itself, you're talking about it. That's
never an issue at Jbarm a huge dining room. They're
inside Jbarm and you mentioned it. The beer garden outside
full service bar right there, twenty two on one Leland Street. Lunch, dinner, anytime,
it's always a great time to head on over to
(30:21):
Jbarm Barbecue against J bar M Barbecue right there in Ito.
Name me al because I'm good for morale. Okay, nice? Yeah, nice,
that's that's me jeszy but nice. Yeah, it'szy, but.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
He got the job done. I think you can agree
with that. Just deliver it as you say. Yes, dock
the boat right, well, land the plane, land the plate. Oh,
I say, docked the boat the plate.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
But I got it.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
I got it from your good buddy Dan Patrick, because
he once aid ESPN was told, hey, why don't you
stick around because you know it'd be good for morale. Yeah,
you mean after I do my show and I need
to just stick around. Okay, just hang out and talk right. Yeah,
but you do that for four hours a day, but
make sure you do it right right. The last thing
I want to do when I leave here is talk Sean.
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Sean's good for morale? Yea, not mine?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Okay, that's gonna say maybe everybody else? Is what you
need me to be a party favor here?
Speaker 9 (31:13):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (31:14):
What it is good for?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Jumping out of a cake next? Yeah, what's good for
mine when I leave here is that I get to
go on air. I mean I get to go to
the golf course and and custom I talk to myself.
The problem is I answer myself too. That's what you know.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
You got a problem.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, talking to yourself one thing. But when I start
giving answer back to myself, yeah, we got an issue.
Self diagnosis sometimes is not the way that golf course
makes me said, I need a psychologist every time I
leave that.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
All right, let's get positive because you know what, this guy,
he gives us the reason to be positive.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
We'll talk about him next. Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 10 (31:43):
Houston, Houston, an iHeart radio station, The Rocket, Sports Talk
seven ninety your home for your home teams.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
From the Parsons and Matchine Next Studios.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Saulsbury, Oh very sby? Ho?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Did okay? Let's do this? Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
To usc true longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Dan matthewscuesus. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Astros losing in ten innings last night, four to three
to the Blue Jays. You give up two in the ninth,
one in the tenth to lose that one. Even more
bad news O, the Mariners and Rangers both went again.
So that means Seattle a single solitary game behind you
and the Rangers two and a half back.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
We just don't lose.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
What can we say? Uh?
Speaker 6 (32:44):
Basketball, gonna have two ESPN Big Monday games coming up
in February. One of them gonna be at Iowa State,
the other one at Kansas. Someone three two, one, two,
five seven ninety is the number to get in, Shawn,
I think we got to the bottom of it.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
We don't even need Tom from engineering.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Hey, what seems to be the.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
But we don't need him.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
We got to the bottom of it. Well, well, I mean,
do you believe it? I mean maybe maybe. I mean
I think we will need Tom with his his search
light that he has to callers.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
We lost him because of this. The tech went out.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Hold, well, you know what, here's the thing. I got
to the bottom of it. You know what I think
it is making fun of sales. I think somebody pulled
the brakes. Did you make fun of sales or just
having some fun at their expense? Fun at their expense?
Speaker 5 (33:26):
But I don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Look, you can have fun at someone's expense, you just
don't know if they're gonna take it that way.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I was all in good fun by you. Sure everybody
will get over. I'm just I'm just saying, take your
scholarship away. I mean, you know, hey, look, maybe maybe
maybe somebody, as I said, pulled.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
The brake, or you know, they're in there grinding for you.
The parking break is still on. You know how you
got that smell that emanates when you're driving around the
parking brake on.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I mean, I've never done.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Vehicle doesn't move what I have the parking break on.
Neither does mine, but parking breaks off.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Yeah, yeah, quit driving because you're gonna grind down your
breaks if you keep driving.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
So but anyway, I think we're good now.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
But like I said, you want to join us seven
one three, two, one two five seven ninety positive positive.
I'm ready to be positive because this guy makes me
be positive. AJ blue Ball. Now, we talked about Hunter
Brown on Saturday Night. How much of a gamer he was.
I mean, you get the story comes out of the
fifth inning, ninety eight pitches. You think, all right, that's it.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
He's done.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
We're gonna have to ask the bullpen again, goes down
the stairs, and before Espada or Josh Miller can even
get to him, he says, I'm going back out there. No, like,
I'm not asking to go back out there. I'm telling
you I'm going back out there. AJ blue Ball is
that same type of guy. Last four outings for him,
eight innings scoreless. This season, and this month he has
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pitched in seven innings, has not given up a single
earned run. As Era down the two point five to seven.
They've been doing the yo yo with him, I said
last night, and I'll repeat it again right now, no
more yo yoing.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
He's here, he's ready.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
You want to have any chance of seeing this thing
through and getting to the postseason, because let's be honest here,
that's probably the win of all wins right now, is
just getting into the postseason with what's happened to you
this season. He's going to be a massive part if
you are able to do that. He's got a good
future here too. He really does.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I think. I think when they talk about parlay it out,
he's shown some Uh well, he's got the grit that
Dana Brown talks about, right, grit and the grind. Yeah,
he really does. And oh, I don't think there's any
question he's here for the duration this year. Correct. You
have to have him right and he's in effective and
he can give you a long, long relief. You don't
(35:45):
have to pigeonhole into just long relief and give you
an inning and give you three innings, give you five innings.
You guy's been. The guy's incredibly versatile, and he's really
good for this team at a time they're going to
desperately need.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Him and have well.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
I mean, and you've desperately needed long a long relief,
high leverage guys. They're late in games. You really have
needed those guys. I mean, it's got to make you
wonder here at a certain point. I didn't hear what
Joe spot has said last night. I was half asleep
when he was talking. But I mean, can you continue
with the way things have gone his last four outings
(36:16):
to count on Brian and Bray you. I'm not saying
put aj blue Ball in that spot, but what about
a guy like Brian King the way he's been pitching.
I mean, some people had said Craig Kimberl. I don't
think he's made for that spot anymore. But Kimberl can
be a guy that throws for you in the seventh inning.
You need somebody to be able to step in and
help you out, especially with Caleb b orr out, and
I think he can do it.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Kimball.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Kim Berle has had great history there, but that may
not be his role anymore. You know, I don't know
if that's his role. Now we know what Brian A
Bray you does bring to the table. But I will
tell you this that by making the change, now, are
you in danger of even though you'd get him back
into a comfort level, aren't we honestly.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
And risk of?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Why am I getting demoted even though that's a normal Well,
I disagree. No, he may be more successful in the
eighth But by telling him at this stage, amen, we're
going to move you back to the eighth inning because
that's your strength, aren't you deep down if you're him
saying I must not have done a good job. Well,
he's clearly not comfortable in the spot that he said.
That's not my point and that's not my point comfortable. Okay,
(37:19):
somebody comes here and says, we're putting you on that
we loved you on overnights because you're you know it's
good and we need you. You do it because it's
your job. But aren't you going to say, hmmm, interesting,
I must not have been doing when you have been right?
And his history says great, you're right. Success, but it
doesn't matter, it doesn't matter the psych and I don't
(37:41):
know how he'd respond. I know the eighth inning he's
owned it for the better part of what will we
go on in three years? Up and down a little bit,
but has been really consistent for the most part. What
in the world, even, I mean, what does every reliever
really want to be if they're not a starter? Oh,
if you're not a starter, you want to be the closer.
So of course he wants that role. Now, hater is
(38:03):
going to have that role when he's back and healthy
and ready to go. But aren't you coming to him
and saying, oh, you're going to put somebody in there
who's never done the role and move me back the
of course you're the success You're saying, I'm more successful there.
But it's like telling a guy who hits two in
the order that he's had most of his successor. But
now he's reeling and you put him back where he's
really successful, in an eight hole. Doesn't he feel like
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that's a demotion if he's been hitting some even though
he knows he's better in the eight hole. Of course,
So I don't know how guys. I've seen it affect
guys in a negative way, and some respond that's up
to the individual. But right now, you don't would we
say if what did we say and what did I
say on this show when Hater went out?
Speaker 6 (38:44):
If you got three, you ain't got one. Remember what
Alec Baldwin said in Glengarry Glenn Ross. You want to
work here close, Well, I'm sorry, I don't care about
your feelings.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Get the job.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I'm not saying I care either. A matter of fact,
I've been stated for years I'm not in the feel
good business at this stage. I'm in the we got
to win and whatever it takes to winter.
Speaker 6 (39:07):
Stop giving up a barreled up single, stop hanging a slider.
To Isaiah Connor fuleffa's.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
How you and I think pro sports coaches managers in
sports are a little more concerned about the fragility of
a player. Then you know what I need a little
bit more CJ Stroud in that locker, Well, guess what.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
C J.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Stroud plays football and he doesn't pitch. So I don't
know how you'd respond. Maybe a bradd love going back there,
But my gut tells me that anytime somebody tells you're
moving back, even though that is your normal role, you
feel like now, when when a bread I mean when
Hater gets back. Of course he can understand that, because
that's why you're paying the other guy. But right now,
(39:47):
don't you think he thinks he's the best man to
close out games for you?
Speaker 5 (39:50):
That's usually the guys that get paid.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
To his production's not showing that he feels that way. Unfortunately,
that's been obvious.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
The question is do they have I think they'll put
matchups in situations in but I'm not sure they're and
maybe they're not worried about his that they'd say he'll
handle either one. But I heard the same thing about
Presley going from nine to seven, No, nine to eight,
wasn't it you went to braid he was seven, right?
I heard that, And as much as I love Ryan Presley,
(40:17):
it wasn't the same. It just wasn't mentality wise, And
right now as a closer of Bray, you is not
as dominant as he was as an eighth thing guy.
In fairness, Presley showed you that in twenty three, though
I'm not talking about twenty three, I'm talking about this
last year. But okay, so then he showed you what
in twenty three that he was starting to lack the
consistency and the effectiveness that he had. But when it
was nutcut and time in the postseason he showed up. No,
(40:40):
I don't disagree with that. So the bottom line he
gets down, I'm not talking about production is this had
nothing to do with production. We know the reason we're
talking about it is because of lack of production, But
not you, not me, have any idea how he would
respond if they moved him back and said we're going
to put Brian King there. The normal reaction would be, Okay,
I'm better in the eighth inning. But am I getting demoted?
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Are you demoted? If you go from the two to
the eight hole? What are they telling you? We just
feel like you're better off in the eight hole. That's
a nice way of saying you haven't done what we
need you to do in the two hole.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Well, but look at what Yiner has done since he's
gotten demoted to the bottom of the order.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
He's actually been productive. Okay, And is Yiner Brian a
Brayew Are they different? Possibly? Probably definitely, only think press.
That's that's why I said it in the first place.
I don't I said I don't hies respond, But for
you to think that every guy's going to respond the same,
regardless of where they're successful is not true. If you
tell me Sean you're a great backup, or you're a
(41:37):
great sixth man. But man, you started, you averaged twenty
four points a game. But we got a guy back
and you've been dominant. We're five and zero and you're
averaging you're you're averaging a triple double. We're going to
move you back to the sixth man. But your average
a triple double is our ours, our two. What do
you think that guy's thinking? I belong as a starter.
They all want to start. But how he responds, so,
(41:58):
I don't know how he'd respond. I know, damn well
this if you ask him today, are you a closer?
Guess what he's going to tell you now? If you're
ass he's going to tell you yes, of course he is.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Well I'm not seeing it unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Well, and hence the conversation. Why we're talking about do
you move him and try somebody else? I suggest that
they probably have to do it by committee and matchups,
because right now it's a it's not a sure thing.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
He's going to get him out. Mister wonderful says it best.
Kevin O'Leary. Money doesn't care about your feelings, doesn't care
about your tears.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yep. Guess what managers and sometimes front offices do well.
Speaker 6 (42:37):
Then maybe Kevin O'Leary needs to work in this front office. Hey,
real quick here before we get to the stake out.
Jack on the southwest side, Good morning Jack, Hey.
Speaker 7 (42:44):
Good morning guys.
Speaker 11 (42:45):
Great show. Used to be on the other talk show.
You're the best talk show in town. Fars no comparison appreciated. Anyway,
you guys are great.
Speaker 7 (42:54):
All toov with all his great attributes.
Speaker 12 (42:57):
I am so sick of watching this uh be an idiot.
Speaker 7 (43:01):
On the base pass? Why would you put him.
Speaker 11 (43:04):
On second base?
Speaker 1 (43:06):
You know the most Well, he was the final out
of the I'm gonna stop you right there. He was
the final out of the ninth inning, so he had
to be on second Oh he did? Okay, then I
take it back. I thought that was a manager's choice.
Speaker 11 (43:17):
Okay, never never mind, But I still can't stand to
watch you. When he gets on a base pass, I said,
oh god, uh, here here comes here comes a bonehead,
uh base running deal. And I don't understand why he's
not coachable about that. But anyway, that's all about great show. Guys,
appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, Jack, if there's one thing that you say, if
we are judging Hall of Famers by his base running,
he would not be a Hall of Famer. I hate
to say it. That's that's a glaring weakness for him.
Yet I know we smile when we say it, because
he said, I imagine if he was an average player
that ran the bases like he does, he wouldn't be
in the league.
Speaker 5 (43:53):
Think he wouldn't. You're like, I guess he's entitled to
have a weakness.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
That's so. Here's here's what happened.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
You know, when the Lord talked to Jose l Twov,
he said, hey, Jose, sit down for a second. Okay,
it's like little infant Jose, all right, you're gonna be
five ft three. Okay, that's the You're gonna be five
ft three. It's just how it is. But you're going
to have out scanning bat, the ball skills. You're gonna
be a Hall of Famer with the bat. You're gonna
be a Hall of Fame player. Here's the other downside.
(44:24):
You're gonna be really bad at base running. And you
handle that. I absolutely can. I think I think he's good.
So that at him. Sure, dear Lord, that sounds good
to be. How bad a base run? Aroun, I'm gonna be,
you have no idea. So I will watch both because
I stream the games, and so I'll watch at bat
when it gets close, just to see, all right, do
(44:45):
I need to be prepared for this or that? And
then when I saw in play outs and ground ball
the second base al two ve thrown out at third
from the first baseman, I said, oh my god, I've
got to see how this went. And then I saw
it and met every expectation. Nothing better than across the
diamond first baseman throwing you out. The only other time
(45:06):
I think I had I had seen that was in
the four World Series, David Ortiz of all people playing
first base, and he was able to cut off a
ball and threw a guy out at third.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
And I was in the National League ballpark. Was it
was in Saint Louis?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (45:19):
So the d H was away.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Remember those times I do some some do all right, criticism, criticism,
how do we handle it? And who's the guy that's
supposed to make you happy?
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Was it blue ball?
Speaker 7 (45:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Okay, that was your Okay, yeah, blue ball makes me happy.
We're a number sixty nine. You could argue that blue
ball sometimes does it? See what I'm saying, See what
I did there? Yeah, it's say you know, do you
have the blue ball? Then? Oh yeah? He always makes
you happy?
Speaker 7 (45:46):
Right?
Speaker 13 (45:46):
No?
Speaker 5 (45:46):
No, no, no, no, where are you going with this?
Speaker 7 (45:50):
On you?
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I shouldn't have to once you lay it out for
the class, Why don't you tell us? I think I
think that you probably have a pretty good idea when
you put those, when you put the name the inference, Yeah,
you're inferring just when you say, oh, they really make
you happy? No, those don't actually make you happy? He
does blue ball? Yeah, yeah that day, Right, it's something else.
Speaker 8 (46:10):
C A U g H.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you, Doug.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
And he belongs pitching as often as we can have
him on the right.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Does he stays as as the saying goes?
Speaker 7 (46:20):
All right?
Speaker 6 (46:21):
But criticism how you handle it? Well, this guy, he
had a way of handling it. We'll discuss here. It
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seven ninety Stros losing extras last night four three to
Blue Jays in Toronto. Need to need to win these
next two games for me to be correct on my prediction.
See that was positive, Dan, I want to stay positive.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
What's your prediction? I said two out of three? Oh,
two out of three? I mean to win the series. Yeah,
you've played well against the Blue Jays. Take two out
of three, that's right. Yeah? Was it Hollan eats who
out of three? Eight bad? That's the cut? You know
the cut?
Speaker 7 (47:25):
Yeah? It was?
Speaker 6 (47:26):
It was who was Darryl get swept? It was all, Well,
if they get swept, then Disdaine's gonna.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Be call it? Are you calling it a season? If
they get swept? Are you willing to make that prediction?
You wait till You're.
Speaker 6 (47:38):
Gonna wait till next week. I'm gonna wait till next week. Yeah,
next next week, I'm willing. I'm willing to have part
two of the Seattle Prediction. Yeah for sure. But Dana
Brown gonna join us at nine thirty all right criticism.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Look me and you, we we get it. In this business.
Speaker 6 (47:55):
When you're in this business or any business where I mean,
I guess you have some sort of profile, You're gonna
have people who are going to despise you. It's despite
your best efforts. It's going to happen. Seemingly throughout his career,
Joe Buck has worn this and it cracks me up
now to how people will still, oh, well, you know
his dad brother, His dad hadn't been alive for almost
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thirty years, and he's been in the.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
Business that long. What he got in about ninety five,
I think so.
Speaker 6 (48:25):
He was on a podcast with Kevin Fishbain, who I
guess is a reporter that covers the Chicago Bears, and
fish Main referenced an article by Dan Caesar, who used
to be with the Saint Louis Post Dispatch and before
Buck even started calling games full time. In the article,
Caesar was critical of the younger Buck being quote force
fed on Saint Louis Cardinals fans and attributed it to nepotism,
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which at the time, sure, I kind of get it,
and Buck responded, I cried, I was still living with
my mom and dad while I was waiting for an
apartment that I was trying to move into, and I
remember reading that and crying, that's how immature I was.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
But it was devastating to read that. I gotta tell you, man.
Like the more podcasts and just like the more away
from the mic Joe Buck is like he just he
sounds like he's a really self effacing, like really good
guy like that, like he understands it, he hears it,
like I think now, like he kind of leans into it.
Like I remember once he went to the Barstool headquarters
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and somebody said, why do you hate my team? And
he goes, well, if it's you asking, I definitely hate
your team. Like he was just leaning into it and
having fun. He's like, no, I don't hate anyone's team.
I'm calling the games. That's all I'm doing. Listen. I've
known him for a long time and friends with him
for long, been to his tournament in Saint Louis. His
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wife's say, very good friend of mine who I've known forever.
Miche Michelle is one of the great people. Both of
that's a great couple, great family. Anytime somebody who's got
a famous father gets into the business, I'm sure Teks
had to go through this. Sure because of his famous father,
Harry cause one of the great voices we've ever heard.
One of my good buddies, Chip Carrey, the same deal.
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It's gonna happen. And Chip's been doing this now for
almost forty years. And you think it's tough enough to
follow a guy, now follow the guy that is the guy.
And you're the son of the guy. And Joe Buck
is the son of one of the great led When
you mentioned Vince Cully, Ernie Harwell, Jack Buck, those names
our guy and Harry Carey, those are the guys right
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outside of Mexican Food product. We got Mark, we got
people here. The legends. The key anytime you're broadcasting the
game and you have to say something negative about a team,
that fan base automatically thinks you hate their team. I
can tell you this. And Joe and I have had
conversations about this on the air. We talked about it,
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and he's now gotten the point. He just is sarcastic
about I say, yeah, of course, I mean about any
of it, because how do you fight that. You can
either fight it and argue back or just like yeah,
just join in and say yeah.
Speaker 6 (51:01):
What what well I got Monday Night Football because Dan
Eigers said, well, you know, Jack was your father, so
of course we're going to give you the job.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
He is becoming. He's very he's he loves to laugh
and he's got a lot of humor. He has got it.
Speaker 7 (51:15):
He is.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
He can't be this good and if he was still
at Fox, he'd still be the number one baseball guy
doing number one baseball and number one football guy for
Fox easily and for a long time. That's a touch.
That's nance stuff, right. So he is awesome at his job.
He's had to work probably twice as hard because people
are always comparing him to his pops. And I can
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tell you say he's a good guy. Joe Buck is
a phenomenal human being. He does not hate the Astros.
He doesn't hate the Red Sox. There may be individuals
over the course of time, like we all do, that
you've had stuff that you you respect and enjoy their game,
and I know you don't like them all, just like
I'm sure people don't all like broadcasters. But Joe's been
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nothing but fair. Joe does not gone, as far as
I've known him, going to games saying you know, I
think I'm gonna rip the Houston Astros or rip the
Los Angeles Dodgers, well, because it's just good to do.
As he's not the analyst either, he's not he's not
doing much opinion. He is teeing it up, doing the
things that play by play guys do, and and also
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and then back in his teammate or when he gives
it down to sends it down to the dugout and
comes back up validating what they say, because that's your teammate,
the analyst. I I don't know how many played by now.
If you're the homer, like the local broadcast team, of
course you're rooting for your team. That's why you're in
the broadcast booth, and you're good at him right and right,
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and you're like, oh, we're gonna win this one. Of
course throws win nothing. But when it comes to the
national stuff, it's absurd, whether it's here or anywhere else
a fan base to think that Joe Buck or Jim
Nantz or anybody else dislikes your team by when he's
calling a game. The reason they've been able to sustain
greatness for this long is because they don't play favorites
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in their broadcast. In the conversation Joe Buck, I'll stand
on the hill for Joe Buck. Joe Buck's a good
human being, great family, and a phenomenal broadcaster.
Speaker 6 (53:14):
I feel what he's saying, not the nepotism side, because
nobody in my family had ever been in this business.
But I feel what he said about the criticism because
I was the same way when I first got into
this business. It wrecked me, it killed me. I tried
to tell myself it didn't matter. But now, for the
most part, I don't see it. Jason or call her. Earlier,
he pointed out.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
Somebody coming after me once and I said, Jason, I
gotta be honest with you, man, I didn't even see it. Well,
why would you care?
Speaker 7 (53:38):
Well?
Speaker 6 (53:38):
And that's the thing, too, is that it's gotten to
the point where even if I if I see it
and I read.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
It, I'm just like, well, if you're concerned about criticism,
probably wrong business, because not everybody's gonna love your team.
Speaker 5 (53:50):
If I'm concerned about criticism, I'm not doing my job.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Number Two is you prepare hard. You know, that's what
our job is, to pre pare art and give it
an opinion. That's why dude, that's why you get hired
and to do your We all do and it's not
going to settle that well with everybody. But I also
don't hate somebody who has a different opinion. That's what
some just because a guy may completely disagree and say,
you know, the Astros are in struggling right now, and
I believe this, that's not a hate. That's just trying
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to do your job. And as a fan, you know,
I've been going back and forth hating opinion. I think
we all would rather have somebody tell us how great
we are than not. But you know, learn a lot
if everybody tells you a weird way.
Speaker 6 (54:26):
Now, I almost appreciate the criticism more than I appreciate
you should.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
Right, because plus there's times when they criticize and their
spot on it's like, you know what, you're right, I
need to and it's okay. That's why we give that.
We got smart fans and they're all over. But the
way I've looked at it is why in the world
am I worried about your criticism If I wouldn't take
your suggestion on something, buddy, I mean, why do I care? Honestly?
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With the guy sitting in Cincinnati right now. Thinks that
I'll never meet that goes on Twitter and disagrees with
a take. That's okay, because I may disagree with his.
I just my whole thing is when they start to
get personal and get into, you know, talking about your family.
So I've never understood it, but I think it probably
when they first get in, if you're not prepared for it,
probably bobs because you think everybody's gonna like you. The
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best broadcasters I know, half of them don't get the
half of them are disliked because you're not going to
be right, no matter if it's like an umpire, You're
not going to be right no matter what decision you make.
So I don't give people that kind of joy to
think that they got something up on me. Early on,
you're like, man it. But when I broke in, we
didn't have social media, so I learned to not care.
Speaker 7 (55:33):
Then.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
I care about their opinion, but when it comes to
their disagreement with me on a topic, as long as
there it's a fair disagreement, I don't have problem with it.
Speaker 6 (55:41):
I actually learned from it. The thing that flipped it
for me was I was down into dumps. It wasn't
about criticism, but it was just about like being the
butt of the joke on the show. And the guy
that I was working with at the time said, man, look,
I know you're probably looking for me to say, oh,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (55:55):
You know we won't do that to you.
Speaker 6 (55:56):
He just fought out said he goes, look, man, yeah,
I'm sorry that you feel that way, but honestly, if
your feelings are hurt by that, then you're probably in
the wrong business.
Speaker 1 (56:05):
Well, you just got done saying you don't care about
Brian Abrady's feelings as a player, because if he's struggled,
oh well fix it. Sure, And why in the world
should you should you care about somebody's opinion of you
when they say I disagree, Man, you need to fix
that and change your opinion.
Speaker 5 (56:21):
It's an honest opinion.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
I mean in the fact that you're transparent about we've
all been there, sure, But the quicker you can get
over it and say if you were if you're giving
a BS opinion, then you'd be concerned about because they
know they can see right through it if you're given
an honest opinion. Hence what it's called an opinion, like
for the.
Speaker 6 (56:36):
Ap pole is that one. I'm not going to get
too much into my process. We'll get into that later.
But like the whole I always love that when people
like they're they're pressed on their opinion and then they say, well,
I'm not really going to get into this.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
Well, that's the whole reason I'm having you on is
to get into it.
Speaker 6 (56:54):
And you put yourself out there and then you do
a subsequent video trying to back yourself, and then you're
not back yourself.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
What can I do? You just you just compounded the
problem for you. Just put your poll out and move on.
Disagreements can be a great thing, learning constructive criticism and anything,
and maybe be in a play having played and you're
getting criticized and constructive christim all the time. As a player.
It prepared me better for the business to know that Listen, man,
I ain't gonna make a hundred million people or whatever.
Speaker 7 (57:22):
Many.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
I know that's something that you listen. But you know,
when you're doing national and local, it's like you have
a strong opinion. I would rather disagree with somebody's strong
opinion than see right through somebody say you don't even
believe that even though I'm on your side, I know
your bs and me.
Speaker 5 (57:34):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (57:35):
If somebody ever has a problem and it's with a
team player, whoever it is, and they confront me about it,
I ask them, do you feel like I made it personal?
And if they answer no, then I say, then what
are we talking about? Like, my job is to talk
about your performance. If I make it personal and I
levy a personal attack against you, then I get it.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
Well if they if they disagree with and if that's
the case, I'm sorry. If they say that they're changing
fat fat and you don't apology. If you're not making
it personal, you don't know anybody in apology. Now they
may say no your criticism. I can hit a high fastball, okay,
But if they can't, good, well, then let's I've always
said this. If I'm criticized, I said, I'll be happy
to watch the tape and you explain to me what
I did. Miss I don't think I did, But just
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watch it with me. And if I'm wrong, dude, I'll
stand up and shy in the fact, say got me,
and it's happened before. But I'm not going to say
something I don't believe strongly in. Man If I otherwise,
I'll just shut up and we want to let somebody
else say it. Yeah, plenty of criticism. It doesn't bother me.
It's sometimes shot up appalling, but it's amazing how you
let people creep into your life in this business. You
got plenty of people that you never meet and you
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should not care because they're just somebody sitting at home
watching the same game as you. Not that they don't know,
but their opinion just may see it from a different
angle and that can be a good thing in a kaleidoscope,
you know.
Speaker 5 (58:48):
Yep, for sure.
Speaker 6 (58:50):
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Speaker 5 (59:05):
You know, huge game there in Houston too.
Speaker 6 (59:07):
Yeah, I almost feel like you know that with uh
Clay Walker being the go to national anthem for a
big game here, I feel like Tody Johnson is starting
to kind of get in on that.
Speaker 1 (59:18):
It's okay, Parker mccollumn a little bit too. Both very
good and that's a that's a cool thing. And back
to uh. Zach Brown makes a lot of money, I'm not.
She may be worth far more.
Speaker 6 (59:31):
No, no, no, like yeah, yeah she she pays for
a lot more than he does, and he can pay
for you know, but no, she she's picking up the tab.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
And I would imagine she Well, whether she is or isn't,
I'm sure he's full gentleman. But whether she is or isn't,
she can and.
Speaker 6 (59:44):
She's still in a lot of brooches a ton, yes, broches,
not even still a thing.
Speaker 1 (59:50):
Well, Ryan Clark's got one. If you want to know
his initials alls, you got to do is look at
his lapel and he'll tell you. Well, he would tell
you that's a lapel pen. Is there a difference, Well,
I mean one's one's.
Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
Like decorative and the other ones just you know, you
just stick something in the back and it's got a
logo on it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Well, one is like when you put an American flag
on your thing. What most people do? I get it
running for office when you put the lower third up there,
it says analyst Ryan Clark. And then he has a
diamond brooch or lapelpiin that says RC. I don't want
to dog him because you know it's his gig and
you can fashion it up any way you want it.
(01:00:32):
Thanks for letting us know. I mean, hey, it's cool.
I mean it looks good on him. Man, I'm gonna
look that up during the break. Does Kinder Scott sell Broaches?
I don't know. Maybe he's on the fast, maybe he's
on the on the order list.
Speaker 7 (01:00:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
You know, it looks nice. I just don't understand. I mean,
what's your name? Oh, no, one of those initials, right,
it's my name. It's like J. So it's like the
story I told you about JT the Brick. Yeah, guy,
JT the Brick. We identify you as Ryan Clark and
the RC is you're kind of diamond and crusted.
Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
We got it, we got it, we got it. Have
about it.
Speaker 7 (01:01:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
The Astros to talk about it because we're not in
the diamond business. So I say, yeah, yeah, if you know,
if you're in the business, can you talk if you're not.
If you're not in the jeweler, that's that's the non
jewelry business. And you talking.
Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
Uh, the Astros losing extras last night four to three,
and they are going to be back at tonight. Jason
Alexander on the mound and then Sexan's off today, but
they're going to get back to work tomorrow. Let's sweeze
in Jerome here before we get into the next segment. Jerome,
what's going on?
Speaker 13 (01:01:32):
Gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Good morning morning.
Speaker 13 (01:01:34):
I've been watching baseball since the sixth and I don't
understand what the astros is doing right now.
Speaker 7 (01:01:42):
You gotta you got a man that is.
Speaker 13 (01:01:45):
By two for twenty eight feedback and clean up. You're
running bases going from second to third? What is you
run and looking back for? What did you looking back for?
Speaker 7 (01:01:57):
Then we got you got.
Speaker 13 (01:01:59):
Players out just swinging at balls on the ground a
foot off the plate. Do the coaches talk to him
or show them the field or what what's going on?
I don't understand you. Last week or the last week
week before ass you had a man in the lineup
Batten one fifty five. He he shouldn't even be in
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the major names Bat one fifty five then just said
that you didn't see no stuff like that. It was
hard for you to get in the lineup batt and
two party. I don't understand what the astros is doing.
Could y'all help me out on that? And and and
you got a man on second base you out of town.
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Your first thing to do is bunt that man over
the third and give him two chances.
Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
To get in.
Speaker 13 (01:02:49):
We lost too many games just I mean just throwing
away game. Then you saving pitchers? What you saving pictures for?
This man coaching like he in April. This is not
we trying to win a Pennan man. You coaching like
this April.
Speaker 14 (01:03:06):
Man, come back and hit hit.
Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
Three, have three hits. You rest in your next date.
Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
I feel your frustration. Appreciate it, Jerome. I can tell
you this, Jerome, great point. You don't have to talk
to me about the load management thing because I drive
there should not be, Jordan. They should be in the
lineup every friggin day until the end. And I ain't
saving squat. They got the whole off season to rest.
I'm with you there. As far as back in the
days when Rod Carew in the group was playing two
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forty kept you on the bench as a utility man.
Times have change, We've evolved.
Speaker 7 (01:03:43):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
And then finally, I have zero idea when the ball's
hit to the right side and you're on second base
and you're running, why you would be looking back, especially
if it's a ground ball. Well, I mean, especially if
you're already moving. You're going there with the express purpose.
So you're getting the third base, you're you're you're on
second base. The ball leaves the bat, you've already you've
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already glanced at where it's going. It's on the ground,
he assumed. I don't, I don't know why you're looking
what to check if he's going to throw it, well,
whether he is or isn't. It's like when you tell
a kid that's running one hundred meters or the forty
yard dash, see it all the time. They pull up
at about thirty eight yards and finish at the finish
line instead of after it and wonder why their time. Man,
(01:04:26):
I thought it was a four to six five guy,
I was running four to eight. It's because you, you know,
you run as if it's a fifty yard sprint. In
this case, had down, dude, you know what, Pay attention
to the base coach. He'll tell you if the ball's
coming or not, and get you asked down. We can
we can do all we want, say all we want.
Hose Twov is a phenomenal player. Jose al Twove is
a subpart best base runner, and it's getting worse.
Speaker 6 (01:04:49):
He did the right thing. He had a bad read
and I mean himself. That's why Guerrero threw the ball.
He saw how he was running the third base and
he said I can get him, and he did. But
I mean, honestly, right there, I mean, first move. As
soon as that ball comes off the bat, you see
it's on the ground, hall ass, hall ass.
Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
I don't know why the alls it does by looking
back is slow you down, because I guarantee you he
hauls ass right there.
Speaker 6 (01:05:13):
By the time the ball gets to him, he's more
than halfway there, and Guerrero realizes, all right, I can't
get him.
Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
I'll just go get the out at first. Well, at
least you make him hesitate on do I get it?
Speaker 7 (01:05:22):
Do I get it?
Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Let me go step on the bag.
Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
Well, you never go.
Speaker 6 (01:05:25):
Broke taking a profit, and you never go wrong hustling.
So both of those lessons and how we apply I
don't question now to Bay's effort. I don't ever question
his effort on the base pass. I question his decision making.
He is a poor base running decision maker.
Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
He assumed.
Speaker 7 (01:05:39):
He just is.
Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
That's what it was.
Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
And it's okay to criticize the guy who quite frankly,
anybody who tells me it's a strength has not watched
him the last well most of his career. Well, you
can steal a base for you, but he gets himself
in situations where he makes some poor decisions on hits
to the alley, into the gap and all the other things.
It's just he's he's it's a rough gopher him. This
it is when he's on the basis, this it is.
Speaker 6 (01:06:02):
Bill Abele see you guys will work he in seven
one three two one two five seven ninety. Just how
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The Jean Salisbury Show continues, Bill, good morning, Hey.
Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
Good morning guys.
Speaker 7 (01:06:22):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (01:06:22):
The conversation about broadcasters and nepotism and kids of broadcasters
things like that made me think, Sean, did you ever
work with Jeremy Shaff at ESPN?
Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
I did?
Speaker 9 (01:06:34):
Okay, So shaf got busted because he wasn't Dick Shapp,
whose father was a tremendous historic sportswriter in this country.
Marty Brenneman's son Tom Tom Brenneman got the same backlash
when he came through the ranks, whether it was TV
or radio. It just seems if you're if you're the
father or the mother, and you are very good at
(01:06:56):
what you do, the expectation of the sun is so
astronomically high. The bar said, sohi, no matter what they do,
people aren't gonna like them. They're just not for whatever reason,
you're not going to break. So I never understood the
Joe buck backlash. I never have. Is he different from
other guys? Yeah, but all broadcasters are supposed to be different.
(01:07:18):
That's the problem with a lot of what I think
is on air broadcasting today is now we're in a
generation where he turned the sound down or turn the video,
you know, the picture off. You can't tell some of
these broadcasters who they are. They all kind of sound
so vanilla, whether it's radio for baseball or football, and
a lot of the new TV guys are very bland,
(01:07:40):
vanilla sounding guys. But I felt I felt bet Jeremy
Schaff got roasted by Bob Knight an interview you can
find it on YouTube where where he did Bob Knight?
Of course he was a bag. Anyways, we knew that
if he didn't like a question, he was getting asked
he'd lets you know, and he said back and had
a question that he didn't want to answer. It didn't
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like and basically told Jeremy shef you got a long way.
Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
To go to be your father.
Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
He didn't basically straight up, he straight up said that.
Speaker 9 (01:08:10):
Flat out. But you know, social media is not social,
nor is it media. I think we've established that long
time ago, and it can be brutal, especially on on broadcasters.
And I just never understood why Joe Buck gets so
much vitriol. I'm lost on that, I really am.
Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Yeah, appreciate it, Bill, I mean with Joe Buck, that's
because he's successful.
Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
Well, it's the way it works.
Speaker 6 (01:08:38):
But it's also too, I mean to his point about
social media, it's such an echo chamber, and when you
go against said echo chamber, well then the pitchforks and
the flames start coming after you. So it's just easier
to be with the crowd. I think it's popular to
say that. I think it's just like people who, hey,
you bring up nickel Back. Oh, of course, I think
Nickelback sucks, you know like that that that's that's what
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it is. And you know, hey, you bring up the
Rolling Stones, Oh, man, I love the Rolling Stones like
it's just it's an easy thing to be able to.
Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
Go along with and there's no pushback.
Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Everybody gets a voice. That doesn't mean I have to
listen to them all or pay attention to them for
the most part. Now I love At the other end
of the spectrum, somebody started writting, I'm not at any
point in time allowing one ounce of disagreement or idiot
that too. I'm only look if there's constructive I helped
move forward and be better all for it. Otherwise, thank
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you for your suggestion and talk to you next time.
That's uh. I don't. I don't care about their criticism.
Speaker 5 (01:09:37):
I just don't.
Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
With that Bobby Knight interview, I remember it like it
was yesterday because Shap started to interrupt them a little
bit and Bobby Knight let me finish damn it.
Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Yeah, that's uh. And that's not the guy to interrupt.
So but Bill's right. The victory all for Joe Buck,
and it's a it's the sensitivityfan. Joe Buck's not out
to get your your fan base, any fan just here, anywhere.
He's just not and that's a fact. Well, but if
you ask him, he'll tell you he is, Yeah, sarcastically. Yeah,
that guy's been there's a reason why he's got the.
Speaker 5 (01:10:09):
Number one job.
Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
He's gonna be here Monday night, is he not? They
play Monday night here, Yeah, he'll He and Eateman will
be doing a game.
Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
Okay, there we go. Good team.
Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
Might might have to Oh I'm massive fan at least Assaulters.
The whole crew do a great job.
Speaker 7 (01:10:23):
All right.
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Four three to the Blue Jays, Mariners and Rangers both
continue to win Seattle. Now just to game back of
the Strows. The Rangers, well, they're only two and a
half back. Texan's off today. Gonna get back on the
practice field tomorrow to get ready for the Tampa Bay
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seven ninety is the number to get in Sean jose
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Al Tuvey. And last night does get a hit. That
was nice to see. You love seeing that he does
get on by. But here's the problem. In the month
of September, he now has thirty three at bats, he
is hitting one twenty one with an on base percentage
of two sixteen. He has a homer and four RBI
in that timeframe, and he does have four walks. He
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has struck out seven times two And I know that
people are saying, ah man, move him out of the
three hole, move him out of the three hole. Well,
they do that last night and Carlos Korea able to
come through with a two run homer there in the
first inning, so that was nice.
Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
You love to see that.
Speaker 6 (01:14:29):
But with Al two Vey, I mean, if they're gonna
be calls for don't play them, then save your call
because Joe spot is not gonna listen. Nobody's gonna listen.
This team wins when Jose Al two Ve hits.
Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
We want to play in place of him. Okay, I
heard somebody last night. I heard somebody last night say
we Ramonirias on a daily basis. So at this stage,
you're just gonna I understand you're not in the you know,
we're not worried about people's feelings. Do you really think
that al twove is not now he's not hitting like it,
But do you really trust keep on the bench would
be better for this team.
Speaker 6 (01:15:02):
You could be like to the tenth inning last night
with Ross who said that the Astros are trying to
do this so they can run Joe a Spot out.
He called it a snow job, which is an actual
couple of words put together.
Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
And it's so the Astros are doing this on purpose,
That's what he said. That's why you don't give people
a voice on social media.
Speaker 6 (01:15:24):
Oh it wasn't social media. It was right here and
through his microphone, over the phone.
Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Okay, the tenth inning show, pregame, post game, any game.
That's why you shake your head and say, you can't
be serious. You they're colluding to make sure that they
do this. So Joe a spot it gets fired. That
is that is that the fact, like all is it
supposed to actually soak that in?
Speaker 14 (01:15:48):
Is?
Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Yep, that sounds like a great baseball take.
Speaker 6 (01:15:51):
So it's it's kind of the NFL version of tanking,
tank for tua, suck for luck. That's that's what it is,
snow jobs to get Joe out.
Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Yeah. Well, the difference is the Astros aren't in last
place there in first, so they're not sucking for anybody.
They're just not playing good baseball and haven't been consistent
for a long time. So at the plate it's been
all year long, it's been it's been a chore for them.
And I I to me, it's Joe al twoves I
did you call him? Jose is not going to be
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out of the lineup. He is going to play.
Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
He may get a day of rest, but he's going
to play all the time.
Speaker 6 (01:16:28):
So it's a nown North American informal. I believe Mary
and Webster a deception or concealment of one's real motive
in an attempt to flatter or persuade used in a sentence,
we need to do a snow job on him.
Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Yeah, they're not snow job in anybody. And if you're
Joe a Spota, you are counting on the fact that
Jose is going to get just as hot as he
has been cold here somewhere in the last fifteen to
twenty game.
Speaker 5 (01:16:55):
But if it's Joe, he's going to say, Hosey Jose
al two. Yeah, let's get Jose going. I love Hosey.
Speaker 7 (01:17:02):
He is.
Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
He is struggling mightily right now.
Speaker 7 (01:17:06):
He is.
Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
And I mean I brought up the C. J.
Speaker 6 (01:17:09):
Stroud example earlier because I mean that was actually really
nice to hear after a Sunday's game. And you can
say that and it's going to punctuate a little bit
more after a loss, but like it is kind of
getting to the point where you would like to hear
somebody take some direct accountability in that clubhouse, for hey,
we've left too many guys on base. We've left too
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many opportunities out there where we have a chance to
be able to help those guys out who have been
battling and grinding for us on the mound, and too
often we find ourselves in this situation. I mean, I
know that jose L Twovay spoke after last night's game.
I didn't hear everything he said, but I mean that
would be the nice thing to hear at this point.
Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
And like the reason I bring up C J.
Speaker 5 (01:17:49):
Stroud?
Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Did he call anybody out directly?
Speaker 15 (01:17:52):
Sean?
Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Did he do any of those things when he said
we did not practice very well? We did not, we
did not prepare very well this week? Did he do
any of that? No, he didn't, to my knowledge, he
didn't name anybody by name. But in truth, if you
say me as a corp us in our quarterback room
and our receiver and didn't have a good week of practice,
if they're offended by it, oh well, I mean if
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it's true, why be offended by say, you know, we
got to get back to work. And the great thing
about leadership, which is also it's not popular, and it's
I mean, you're not great. Leaders aren't popular because you're
gonna have to hurt some feelings along the way. But
when you do that, you're not worried about You're worried
more about what's gonna the effect going to have on
pushing us forward to get better. You're not worried about well, man,
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he's criticizing the room. Now, if you stood up there
and say the right guard sucked and he can't block anybody,
we got to do something about it, then you've embarrassed
the team out in public and you don't air that
dirty laundry. But when you put we in front of it,
it's just a fact. He ain't telling No, he's not
telling a lie. And anybody that has a problem with
it needs to get back to work and probably do
their job a little bit better because if they're not
practicing well and the quarterback sees it, then it's pretty blatant.
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Now some guy may say, I had a great week
of practice, but unfortunately we're not playing tennis and golf.
You relying on ten other cats and on offense. If
it's not just you speaking it and eleven other guys
on defense. So I don't like I said, we are
so soft and worry ooh, did he hurt somebody's feelings
every now and then, great leaders got to hurt somebody's
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feelings on their team, not airing them in public, but
in private saying because it, come to Jesus, sometimes is
what gets people going, or you find out what tests
them or what their limitations are and how they can
what they can and can't handle. But good leaders aren't
in the ass kissing business. They're in the show you
had to do It business.
Speaker 6 (01:19:39):
Humility is a tough lesson to learn, but it's the
damn good one to learn because, well, you feel that way.
Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
It sucks.
Speaker 6 (01:19:45):
Maybe they ain't, Gunnery Sergeant Hartman like maybe the hitters
are private pile with the unlocked foot locker.
Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
There's one thing that angers me more than anything in
the world. It is thievery. And if it wasn't for
people like you, we wouldn't have it. How many people?
What could cite that that you just said that quote?
It's one of my favorite parts private style. Holy Jesus,
what is this? What was his name again?
Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman?
Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Yeah, Sergeant Hartman, old school reference there, Yeah, I Arlie, Ermie.
You can't be you can't be you can't be sensitive
in sports. Well, leadership sometimes makes people sensitive, but they're
just gonna have to get over it. And right now,
it's not even just about leadership, it's about it's about production.
Speaker 6 (01:20:30):
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We watched that and she, god, no, it was a
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Yeah, the heat of a jungle and uncourteen circumstances. Yeah, yeah,
that's definitely wasn't exactly. They weren't there for a party.
Speaker 6 (01:20:55):
No, It's like even the show Mash was a was
a comedy, but it's the itself to lead in. The
show is called Suicide Is Painless.
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Yeah, yep, one of the great all time shows too.
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Speaker 6 (01:21:07):
I mean, you know, I guess you can find humor
in weird places sometimes. But Brian John work into the conversation.
We will get into some Texans too, because Damiko Ryans
did talk yesterday. So do you want to let you
hear a little bit of that and don't forget Dana
Brown going to join us nine thirty this morning. As
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in one of our regulars, Brian and Pareland.
Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
Brian, good morning, Hey, good morning guys.
Speaker 13 (01:23:11):
Dan.
Speaker 17 (01:23:12):
Happy belated birthday, actually share a.
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Birthday, so sweet, Happy birthday to your mom.
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Speaker 9 (01:23:20):
Real quick.
Speaker 17 (01:23:21):
You had the caller call in last hour talking about
you know, guy, why is a guy bet in one
fifty five? And there's because it's all you have. You're
you're literally running a mass unit. You're you're basically Sugarland
is a small is basically a U a medical ward.
You're literally just shuffling guys back and forth because it's
(01:23:43):
all you have left because you've had so many guys injured.
Speaker 8 (01:23:46):
See you having a run.
Speaker 17 (01:23:48):
Jacob Meltin out there, which his games has still been
great and he's probably saved you some runs in that
time frame. Brandon is hitting isn't worre at once for me,
But why is he out there?
Speaker 7 (01:23:59):
Because what other alternatives do you have at this point?
Speaker 17 (01:24:03):
You know, and people woun't Joe as Spotify er. These
are the same people that two months ago, after that
La Dodger series wanted him to be Manager of the
Year and all of that.
Speaker 7 (01:24:12):
I love Howstonians, I love Houston.
Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
But we have some of the dumbest and.
Speaker 17 (01:24:16):
Most uneducated sports fans I've ever seen. Like they're the
most fickle fans in the world. Like you don't understand
the eggs and flow of the game. You don't understand
the ebbs and flow of the season. You can't open
your eyes and go, you know, look at what we're
doing this with. We're holding this team together with duck
tape and bailing wire and somehow, even though it's getting
(01:24:38):
really really tight, there's still somehow.
Speaker 7 (01:24:40):
In first place.
Speaker 17 (01:24:41):
Any other team would be twenty games out of it
by now. It's from last night was frustrating as all
could be, because you go in with a two run lead,
you're expecting your closer to nail it down, and you
know it winds up getting away from you, especially with
that part of the lineup. But I mean, you just
wonder how much longer can.
Speaker 7 (01:25:01):
You sustain this? But you know, I remember and when
it comes.
Speaker 17 (01:25:04):
Down two Bay, everybody wanted to get him out of lineup.
I remember in the twenty seventeen World Series, everybody wanted
to know George Springer down in the playoffs. He was Scottland,
he was struggling, and what happened he would hit a
home run in six straight games or something like that. Now,
Grandy was a little bit younger, but these guys, when
they get hot, they will get hot. And you just
got to keep running them out there, maybe move them
(01:25:26):
down to fifth or sixth or something like that to
where you take a little pressure off of them. But
Christian Walker and Blaze in the trail, I mean, every
time that guy comes up with bases loaded or runners
on second and third, I'm I'm expecting, oh, look, here
comes another week infield, pop up, here comes a strikeout,
you know, something like that. And it's a lot of
(01:25:47):
these guys and it's just frustrating because we've seen it
for so long, how good they were and how good
they were at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 7 (01:25:55):
But I'd be curious to know.
Speaker 17 (01:25:56):
I think a lot of this started, and it's just
that mentality when Eastak Paradus went down those clutch two
out hits.
Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
And just that mentality seemed to change.
Speaker 17 (01:26:08):
And I don't know why, but it seems like some
of these issues started when he went down. You kind
of felt that gut punch of your offensive guy going
down and already having your do on out and they
just haven't recovered from there. But I mean, you're hoping
to at least if you win one in Toronto, you
hold the season series, the tiebreaker against them, if something
(01:26:29):
works out and those games next week against Sexast and
Seattle are gonna be massive now. But Good Show has
always shown I know you'll hold out a data to
the fire.
Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
You always do.
Speaker 17 (01:26:41):
And yeah, I sent you that question this morning. I'd
love to know what their off season plan is for
taking a look at their medical team and return to
play and all that, because you hate to see that
happened with Garcia with what we went down last night.
Speaker 7 (01:26:53):
But Good Show is always guys, talk to you later.
Speaker 6 (01:26:56):
I appreciate it, Brian, appreciate the energy too. I mean,
we just we asked one thing, bring the juice. That's it,
dis Astros.
Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
I always ask when people say that, well, they're going
to get hot, and I think we're all counting on it,
But the question is how and when?
Speaker 6 (01:27:12):
Well, I mean, and it seemed like that you were
in position because for the most part, I will agree
on Joe Espada, it is a execution thing. It's not
about decisions that he's made. He puts guys in positions,
he expects them to go out there and do a job.
After that, it's out of his hands. But I mean,
I get back to the production you had Saturday night
from both Jiner and Christian Walker, which I had railed
(01:27:35):
against for the longest time, batting them back to back
for how they've been with runners in scoring position. But
then in that game you go four for ten combined
with five runs. Bat it in, and then you move
Christian Walker up in the lineup the next day and
you can talk matchups.
Speaker 5 (01:27:48):
He can do all of that.
Speaker 6 (01:27:48):
We covered that on Monday with Steve Sparks. I just
don't understand it, Like you finally found something that might
finally work for your team and then you say, well,
one game, you know he must be seeing it great,
so let's move him up to the five.
Speaker 5 (01:28:00):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
I've said it, and i'll say it. I'll say it
most of the good teams you've watched over the years
at least, and maybe it's changed. I don't know the
analytics on this. I just think there's a continuity that
goes with letting guys play through some stuff and letting
guys that are hot stay in the lineup. Now, if
a guy is abysmal, then you got to make those changes.
I get that, but I am a big I don't know.
(01:28:26):
I don't understand. I don't understand, not only at this
stage of the season, why lineup changes are always necessary.
I just don't, and I honestly it wears me out
when I hear anybody say, well, they want to get
the matchups all the time. You don't ask for matchups
with Jordan or Pinya. They're hitting all the time. So
(01:28:50):
I mean, I don't know. I feel like you want
to go to the ballparking one through six. You have
pretty good idea every day, and even then some when
they were at their best in the past, was now.
I know, with all the injuries, you got to that
part of get I'm just with the healthy players. I'm
just a big believer in there's a continuity that goes
with it, and there's a believability that they get knowing
(01:29:11):
when they come to the ballpark no matter what they're
in the lineup, unless, of course, like you said, you're
oll for seventy four. I get it, But Kyle Tucker
had to play through it. Bregman's played through it. I mean,
you've got to let some of those guys and if
you're they if they don't think they can win with them,
then you've got to put somebody else in there and
give them a chance to play through it as well.
And we're at the stage now that the excuse that
there can't be I understand you're injured, that's an off
(01:29:34):
season talk. Now you're right, and now I mean, nobody
feels sorry for you, Nobody gives around and I'm not
sure they're asking for that, but it can't be. Man,
they're good. But button if if you're a lot of
butts and IFFs at this stage of the season, if
those are applied to your team, you're probably not where
you need to be. And there's no way anybody can
feel overly confident about the way that the production at
(01:29:54):
the Plate has been. You just can't. If you are,
you're just you're you're probably in the optimistic point view.
Were you a little unrealistic because right now potential, yes,
but production's more important at this stage. And all we've
heard about this year for the most part at the
Plate has been potent. Potential. Production's reared its head once
in a while. The production's been done in the pitcher's
mount for the most part this year.
Speaker 6 (01:30:14):
Well, And to your point, last night was a microcosm
of what they've been through for about the last couple
of months.
Speaker 5 (01:30:19):
How many runs they scored last night?
Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Three on the road against the number one team and
then again the number one team in the East, but
one of the best teams.
Speaker 6 (01:30:26):
It's the age old stats are deceiving because what we
got eleven hits? Okay, runners in scoring position two for eleven,
eleven guys left on base. So fine, you're getting the hits.
You're just not cashing in when you need to do that.
What are your kicking field goals?
Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
When you say about a well field goal kicker, it's
easy to kick when you're when you're up forty one
to three, and you get three more field goal attempts
if you miss him, it's not causing you a game.
It's the same thing with a quarterback. How often do
we hear you'll see this if you're on the wrong
side of the team. Oh yeah, but he threw for
three hundred yards in the second half, but they were
down forty right, we call those empty yards, right right,
(01:31:01):
But had you won the game, then we need the
four hundred yards. It's the same thing here. It's like, okay, yeah,
you got eleven hits, but how many of them came
through at the right time? I mean, I'm talking at
a time when you needed him, and maybe, just maybe
this year, the Clutch Jean's taking a little time off
at the plate. Not maybe it has now. Does that
(01:31:22):
mean it can't rear it's head. No, But one hundred
and forty five games or so into the season, the
Clutch Jean's been, uh has taken a bit of a
sabbatical this year. What I have the plate? What is
this a union job? Was there a smoke break? I
don't know about. It's well, we get we get enough
days off for smoke breaks. I tell you that lineup changes.
(01:31:42):
Somebody's getting a smoke break. It ain't me, but somebody is.
And I'm adamantly against it. I just am sorry.
Speaker 5 (01:31:49):
I forget smoke breaks too. But there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
There's another I hear that from somebody. Oh you smoke?
I started, so I get a break. Start smoking, just
so you can get outside for ten minutes during work, right,
and you need eight of them. But they really don't
have time for smoke breaks or to get your feelings right,
or to take a day off because you're a little
tired after playing a night game.
Speaker 6 (01:32:10):
Sorry, you judge people who you can tell smoke. There's
there's one on this floor, and I'm gonna leave out names.
Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
Well, come on, man's if you're a longtime smoker, it's
pretty easy to see and smell for that matter, no
cologne you put on condract.
Speaker 6 (01:32:24):
I'm supposed to get on that elevator. I think I'm
gonna miss that elevator. I'll wait for the next one. Yeah,
I'm good. I don't need the Dutch oven. All right,
John and Garry, we'll talk to you. You want us
to talk to you too, or yell at you, any
of those things you can yell at us. Hell, we'll
allow for anything. Seven one three two on two five
seven ninety you can seven one three two on two
five seven ninety h. We'll continue the Astros conversation. Do
(01:32:46):
want to get into a little bit of Demiko and
the Texans?
Speaker 5 (01:32:48):
We'll do that too. Sewn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk, seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
I am a dip guy, you say, Sean will kind
of well, I can tell you what kind of dip
daisy French onion dip in the daisy ram now I am.
I'm like the finger food appetizer chips, you know, throw
a fredo in their chips to get the dips. Sometimes
to the point on college game day or during Saturdays
and studies get up put the spread. It always has
(01:33:14):
the daisy French onion dip or the daisy ranch tip.
Was in the local grocery store over the weekend picking
it up, and why because well the other foods finding
dandy later in the day, but in order to get
you through. And don't you do it on holidays too.
You do it on Labor Day, you do it on holidays.
You do it sports and it's sports season. This is
daisy French onion dip and ranch dip time of year,
(01:33:35):
right and now it comes out with this delicious french
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your own kitchen. But they're doing it for you. Pop
on into your local grocery store and find out what
I already know and have known. And I'm grateful to
be part of this where I get to well spend
(01:33:58):
my college football Saturday and Sunday or any other day
of the week doing what really is the strength of
a meal, my chips and dips, and it's Daisy French
onion dip and daisy ranch dip. I can go to
myfrigerator and take a picture. You'll see it now, visualize it,
and then go out and do it. Get to your
local grocery store and look for daisy French onion dip
(01:34:18):
at a grocery store near you. Sean Salisbury show continues
Good Texas, saying, m Maggie's I just Matt, you do
a quality job.
Speaker 7 (01:34:29):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
It was honored to be there, and I'm always there
for you and to raise all that money to make
a difference and just good victuals, good times and a
good golf course and a good man. And I'm grateful
to be a part of something that quite frankly, a
lot of other people could have invited. So thanks good
stuff man. I missed him on Channel eleven, really really
(01:34:50):
really did that and went coached his grandkid baseball game
after Sean, I got to go coach the grandson.
Speaker 5 (01:34:56):
Pay to play some baseball.
Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
A lot of people respect well respected in this town
shouldn't be And I was grateful to be there. And
it's always fun when you can hit a golf ball
on a Tuesday.
Speaker 6 (01:35:06):
So when I first got into this business and O nine,
he was one of the first people to talk to me.
I've always really appreciated that. Thank hey, roots for people's success.
We had a lot of good ones here locally, and
Matt's one of them, for sure. He's uh when they
say they're retired, retired, yeah, but they're always doing something.
Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
Oh it's making a different something. They're retired from doing
that job, but they're doing all kinds of other things
to make a difference. And Matt's no different.
Speaker 6 (01:35:26):
Real quick here before we get on the phone lines,
like Mark Berman is the perfect example of that. I
saw him in the press box for Billy Wagner's Jersey
retirement and immediately on the phone with somebody like he's
chasing a story again. And I pointed to a buddy
of mine seeing it next to me, I go, I go, look,
look he's still working. Never leaves him, he's still doing it. Yeah,
that's okay, man, it's been ingraining here with four decades
(01:35:46):
for however long you've been doing it. But yeah, it
was good and just grateful for people who sacrificed to
raise money for others and then allow us to eat
the food, have good cold beer and go play golf
with some friends and friendsy and seeing it becomes a
reunion of sorts, but for the right reason. So it
was really good, Matt, thank you and I appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (01:36:05):
Man.
Speaker 5 (01:36:06):
When all the way around my group, really good, really
good group of guys.
Speaker 6 (01:36:09):
See, that makes it even better, you know, especially if
you're if you're with a group that you're having fun,
even if you're not putting up the you know, the
huge numbers, and it's like, hey.
Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
You know what, one of our guys works here, Michael
Garfield toofield, great dude, he was in my He was
in my group as well, solid ball striker, a couple
of former players and yeah, oh yeah, well you know what,
we all scram around you Oh yeah, what do you
we all? It's all when we hit it the way
we want to hit it. But at there you're laughing
and joke and some guy hits it. I mean, you're
on the first tea box and you slice one into
(01:36:38):
the water, the next one you staff hook one to
the left, and then then the next one you hit
the three feet So that's that's called a scramble. And
but it's the the the experiences and the people instead
of winning the tournament. You know, we had fun and uh,
but just good people, man, I always they they It
makes me reflect when I think about thinking when all
is said and done in truth, that that it's through
(01:37:01):
this job and through sports and stuff we meet cool people, man,
And we've always made it is that's the greatest thing
about playing and broadcasting as being you meet cool people
and doing this. I feel like we know ninety percent
of our callers as friends and most of them we
haven't even met.
Speaker 5 (01:37:15):
Yeah, but that's a good thing. So it's good to
have them on. Let's get to him, man, they've been
waiting patiently for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:37:20):
Someone three two and two five seven ninety Stros lose
last night four to three in ten innings. Dana Brown
going to join us here in about forty five minutes.
John on the northwest side, John, good morning.
Speaker 7 (01:37:31):
Hey Man, Good morn, hey man.
Speaker 8 (01:37:32):
I was in and out on the patio.
Speaker 7 (01:37:34):
Didn't team pitch last night?
Speaker 9 (01:37:36):
He did?
Speaker 7 (01:37:38):
He ditched a tent in and I think.
Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
And no, that was that was that was hold On.
That was Kimberl that pitched the tenth inning. King pitched
the seventh and the.
Speaker 7 (01:37:48):
Eighth right, and he and he had he had some
teen in and didn't do anything. This is my thing.
Speaker 8 (01:37:54):
Look, blue Ball, blue Ball could have went more than
party pitches. He could have went another one or two winning.
But besides all that the worst thing in the world.
There's no way that Dana Brown had in mind when
he signed Kemble to bring him in in situations like that.
That was like that was Joe's fire throwing the white flag.
(01:38:16):
You can't the game is tied three to three. You
still have a chance to win this game. You bring
Kimble in that, what do you expected? The Kimball are five, six, seven,
eight years ago. That's ridiculous, man, I don't care what
picture you have left in the bullpen. You do not
bring Kimball in a situation like that. I'm sure Dana
(01:38:37):
Brown at the time he signed Kimball because we didn't
have our pictures were coming back soon. He said it hisself,
Kimball was supposed to be eating up and in and
or even coming in in a trash in it.
Speaker 7 (01:38:51):
Not in a.
Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
Situation like that.
Speaker 7 (01:38:53):
I know, a braid.
Speaker 8 (01:38:54):
You let him tie the game. He didn't have it
all last night, but hey, he was still a pitcher
ninety seven.
Speaker 7 (01:39:00):
If I had to and I had no more bull
pen picture.
Speaker 8 (01:39:03):
To bring in, I would have brought to bread you back.
I'm not gonna bring Kimberlean. And kimber Wood was great
this time. I loved him to get but you should
have brought anybody else he in there, Joe Spottle besides
that guy that's like waving the right flag.
Speaker 15 (01:39:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
I did not like that.
Speaker 7 (01:39:20):
And that's not the first time it's fout to do that.
Speaker 8 (01:39:23):
He did that a while back when he and put
Kimball out there and we lost the game. Kimball ain't
got it no more. That was a bad decision, broke
bad decision.
Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
Y'all have a good day, man.
Speaker 6 (01:39:33):
All right, See John, I'll bring you through thirty pitches.
You were not bringing him back out there. And in
terms of anybody else in that bullpen, there is nobody else.
Are you gonna throw Lance McCullers Junior in a spot
where you need to be able to make sure you
don't have guys on base and you can throw strikes.
I'm sorry he hasn't proven that he can do that.
I can't count on him there. And Brian King where
you use them. Well, there's a reason why we're having
(01:39:55):
the conversation about Brian.
Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
To bray you. So my thing is, who's gonna start
in place of guard? Well, now, if it's up to
me aj blueball or you're going bullpen game and he
gives you four innings, as part Is said, bullpen game,
that may be more than maybe more than norm I.
Speaker 5 (01:40:12):
Think that is going to be what you're going to
be doing.
Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
And but when it comes to the Yo yore right now,
blue ball, m Colors, blue Ball, it's not close. No,
there's a lot. I mean, it's it's a it's a
bummer to say that. But I can't start him. He's
got a lot of Hunter Brown in him. Blue Ball,
Yes he does. I can't start. I go right now.
I can't. I can't ask for three innings at Lansma
(01:40:35):
Colors as a starter. I mean going sorry to tight.
Speaker 6 (01:40:37):
Just can't going right at Aaron Judge, going right at
Vlad Guerrero Junior last night, Like he's up there, he's
not scared.
Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
I need I need that guy to factor more. I
need him to be used. He's like twenty two, you
got to say, and reached his twenty third or fourth
birthday yet, right, I mean he's a kid. I know
he's young, but I mean the future, as we've talked
about is I mean, this guy is you hear Steve
Sparks talking. Steve Spark's been talking about blue Ball for
a couple of years.
Speaker 7 (01:41:00):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
He's in between you twenty five Okay, there you go.
I thought he was twenty three or twenty four. College.
Speaker 5 (01:41:05):
He's still got the youth on his side.
Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
But the guy is needs And we've had a handful
of our callers pining more for and this was two
months ago, a month and a half ago, pining more
for Bluebond amount. So the callers are onto something, and
in truth, you trust him more harsh to say. And
it's a bummer because I like Lance, but right now
I can't run him out there. I just can't on
a consistent basis, especially as a starter. Give me anything
(01:41:30):
in a mid relief and I'll live there with him.
I gotta start somebody else.
Speaker 5 (01:41:35):
Well, I mean, it's either production or it's injuries. With Lance.
Speaker 6 (01:41:39):
I mean, that's just you can't tell the whole story
without mentioning that. I mean, you know, oh, well he's
done good things. That's not lost on me. But part
of the story is availability bingo and that's just and production,
and it doesn't look like we're going to have Luis
Garcia available anytime soon now unfortunately not Gary, Anthony Chris
will work you in. Don't forget Dana Brown gonna join
(01:41:59):
us here in about forty five minutes and we will
get in some Texans though before we get to them.
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Going non stop Sewan with former.
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Speaker 5 (01:44:32):
Bring Gary, what's going on? Gary?
Speaker 16 (01:44:35):
Hey, good morning guys. I apologize if y'all have already
already covered what I'm going to talk about, because I
just started listening about fifteen to twenty minutes ago. First
of all, I have to disagree with look here John
that was on there about Timber being the worst person
to put in there in the MLB. Uh the pictures.
I don't care who you are, you know, on the average,
(01:44:56):
pictures have a seventy thirty advantage over the batters if
you just average it all out, or even better. Really so,
he could have got him out, just didn't happen. Who
was the ninth inning picture? I didn't see the ninth inning?
It was a brave Oh god, well, and I mean
he's good, don't get me wrong. Anything that's There's nobody
(01:45:17):
else they could put in that position besides him. Is
Hater gone for the year.
Speaker 5 (01:45:22):
He's still not throwing, so it's not looking good.
Speaker 16 (01:45:25):
Okay by the time, by the time they get through brain,
he's missing that one factor. And it's got to be
mental somewhere. They just doesn't have the closer. Mentality is
great at the seventh eighth inning, but closer, I'm you know,
fifty to fifty chance, I think. But anyway, so, hey,
the one guy that you've been talking about here recently.
You remember Phil Mayton. This is like a clone of
(01:45:49):
Film Mayton, except he maybe even a little bit better.
Speaker 7 (01:45:52):
The guy is so good.
Speaker 16 (01:45:53):
He just shows no emotion no matter what, no high's
nose lows. He's so focused in everything.
Speaker 7 (01:46:00):
So I agree with you.
Speaker 16 (01:46:01):
I think they might need to plug him in as
the next starter if what's his name that's not coming back.
So I'm really impressed with him. He looked good and everything.
And I don't guess they would use him as a
closer because they need innings out of him. So anyway, uh,
I just don't I don't know about bray you being
(01:46:21):
the closer. I just I just don't have confidence in him.
So anyway, I just wanted to give give some praise
for uh uh for blue Balls. I appreciate him. He's
going to be really good. He needs to hang on
to him. So anyway, good show, guys, Thanks for letting
me in.
Speaker 6 (01:46:34):
Thanks Gary AJ blue Ball. Yes, he has been very good. Sean,
you were saying, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (01:46:42):
Was trying to ask Gary a question, but he was rolling,
so I don't even remember what I was going to
ask him now. I was just God, it was about
the ramp up, Josh, Oh, the ramp up will take
too long. Unless they extend themselves and plays, you can't
get him. And if if he hasn't started throwing yet,
you got seventeen games to go, so you do that rehab.
Whatever you get him done, they'd have to be pretty
damn good. In the playoffs to expect it. Then I
(01:47:05):
don't see how he's ready to go in the regular see,
especially judging from the history here, it ain't gonna be quick.
Speaker 5 (01:47:12):
It's just not.
Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
It doesn't have a quick and they always air on
the side of protecting the players safety and rightfully, so
you're not gonna get it anytime soon. I wouldn't think
I'll be shocked if he pitches his share at all.
Speaker 5 (01:47:23):
Well you yeah, him, him and Susa.
Speaker 6 (01:47:25):
It does seem like that they're they're not trending towards
coming back anytime soon. Anthony Logan, Chris, see you guys
right there. We'll get you in seven one three two
one two five seven ninety against seven one three two
one two five seven ninety. Get into a little bit
more Astros, But then do want to get into just
a little bit of Texans before we turn to Dana
Brown at nine thirty for his weekly visit here Sean
(01:47:46):
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get back to work tomorrow to get ready for Monday
night at NRG against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Someone three
two one two five seven ninety Anthony wants to weigh in. Anthony,
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (01:50:36):
Hey, Good morning guys.
Speaker 15 (01:50:37):
Hey, So I was just calling. I played this game baseball,
that that is, and I played it through my senior
year at high in high school, and I'm thankful to
I have played at a high school that continuously cranks
out professional athletes. But you know, just playing at that level,
I can tell the average fan that has never played
(01:51:00):
the game, this is baseball. And Deon Sanders has said
the same. Baseball statistically the hardest game there is to
split play, especially with American sports. And the fact of
the matter is is that the greatest players to ever
put on this uniform fail to reach base seven out
(01:51:21):
of ten times. And history would tell us that Altuve
is knocking on the door of an eight for fifteen
where he hits two bombs and drives in a bunch
of runs. So I'm on the other side of the
scale of most fans with Altuve, I say keep running
him out there, you know. I know Sean has already
mentioned this.
Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
Let him work through it, you know.
Speaker 15 (01:51:42):
I think a guy like Altuve, who has been in
the league for a long time and has shown us
that he is able to work through this, has a
much longer lease than a guy who a rookie, you know,
or a younger player. So Altuve is going to continue
to run out there, and Al two is going to
break out of this slump and be a big part
(01:52:03):
of this team's success down the road.
Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
Appreciate it, Anthony, Listen, there's certain guys. Now, I'm a
performance based guy, not a potential guy. I've always been
like that. If you perform, you play. If you don't,
you don't. But there are our guys who have earned
the right to play through it, and Al two bay
is one of them. He's struggled.
Speaker 7 (01:52:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
Whether that means you move him around the lineup, that's
up to Joe Spotta, and you may need to. But
there's no manager in Major League Baseball or anybody that's
that's that's got a little the manager with sanity that's
gonna sit this guy. That'd be the equivalent of going
to The Angels have always trusted Mike Trout right, Yeah,
(01:52:44):
even though all the injuries. That'd be the equivalent in
our world of going to Mike Trout and saying, dude,
you're struggling, he's healthy. Let's say he's healthy. You're struggling, man.
You having a tough go of it.
Speaker 13 (01:52:54):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
In August and September, I'm gonna sit you down for
a week. We're gonna bench you. No, because you don't
want to be the one that when it finally breaks
out of it, do you missed out on it? We've
seen the movie before. I understand the frustration. Instead of
let's bench him, it's going to be how do we
get it fixed? And I'm not sure there's any real
discipline to getting hose Al to the fixed because he's
(01:53:17):
not a disciplined hitter. He chases, but he's the best.
Put it this way, when you think two man scramble
golf and you're with a partner in you, you're playing
a force. You and your buddies are playing and you
drop the tea to see who's on whose team, and
you're a ham and egg team. For instance, I was
(01:53:39):
playing with a good team. I choose a guy who's
constantly in the fairway that I'm longer than constantly in
the fairway because I can ham an egg as good
as anybody. Why, I've been in sand and rough plenty. Honestly,
I don't know what the relaxation is. But I'll hit
a shot that you would know you have no business hitting,
and hit a grain from two hundred yards to take
it out and cut it. It's like wow. And then
(01:54:00):
there's eighty yards sitting straight of flag stick. You put
a loub budge in a handy chili did into sixty yards. Okay,
but I need that guy who's simple thing just keeps
you just clockwork. I'm the ham and egg guy. I'm
the egg guy that they can do it same thing
in baseball too many. He's a guy you're not relying
much on mechanics. You're not going to say do this.
You're just gonna say, dude, keep ham and egging. Eventually
(01:54:21):
you're going to catch up to that high fastball and
you're going to tomahawk it into the Crawford boxes. And
all of a sudden he does go eight for nine
to twenty with three home runs. And I know it's
hard to bear through that. Listen, it's frustrating and you
say come on, but come on, you're not going through
nobody else that's in the lineup, even if he's struggling
or not, gives you a better chance to I'm not
(01:54:46):
talking Jordan. I'm just talking about streaky hitters. When they go,
they can literally load you up. Dude. Al Tuove may
be short and tight, but he's had the ability to
go and remember who leads a team at home runs
allowed hers to the people to back in here Altuve
twenty four. So if he runs into it, he goes,
and you can't risk not running into it. It's just
(01:55:08):
like when people say, man, you're a fromber, what's going
on in emotion? Emotion? He's got to get it right
or he doesn't go sideways in a game regularly, only
when things are going good. Well, are you not going
to start him? You may move him back and start
Hunter Brown in game one of the playoffs, you're not
not starting in because he's got the potential to No. No,
you're asked every time he goes out there. Even though
(01:55:28):
the last six or seven starts, one or two of
them have been good, four of them have been uh,
and one's been average. You're running him out there because
he's the best option you got, not name Hunter Brown.
Al Tuve can go on a hot streak with the
best of them. He's other than the day off that
they give him, like regular scheduled de al Tuvey is
going to play. If he's zero for eighteen in the playoffs,
(01:55:51):
he will play off. He will be in the lineup
to goal for twenty two if that's the case, and
hopefully it's not so the benching and get rid of out. No,
you can move him around lineup if you want. Al
two vas never is while you're here. Al two Vason
never gonna hit eighth in the lineup. Just so you
know this, it's never gonna happen. You'd be lucky for
him to hit six or something. He's gonna hit one
through five because you're always anticipating he's gonna bust out,
(01:56:15):
and when he does, it's hell to pay. But in
the process of it sometimes it looks awful. Now, he's
never going to best out a bad base running because
he's got a good base runner. But he's your ham
and egg guy in basic. He just is jord On,
hit it do it all, just clock or great hitter
with power, great hitter, not power hitter that can hit
great hitter with power. AL two vas You're he's the Ham.
Speaker 5 (01:56:38):
You know what you're getting.
Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
Al two Vay's the egg guy. Ham and egger Man.
They'd be perfect partners on a golf course if you
applied it to baseball. Dude, you keep hitting a three
twenty down the middle, and if you're struggling with your
putting game, I'll my mechanics will look weird. I'll have
that golf swing like Jim Furick. That's like I don't
know how he squares the club up, but he does,
or how Cameron Young holds it at the top. AL
two and I'll be damn. He'll pull a ball on
(01:57:01):
the outside part of the plate into the Crawford boxes
once in a while.
Speaker 5 (01:57:03):
You're like, what he just will?
Speaker 1 (01:57:07):
So whatever your feelings are about it, get those out
of your thoughts. He ain't getting benched for any extended time,
and the benching would be a one day's rest, and
it ain't called a benching, It's called scheduled day off,
which I don't want him to have, no, because the
only way he's gonna get through it is playing him,
because he will chase one out of the strike zone,
and it's going to be up on an opening inning
(01:57:28):
fastball that's up and out, and he's gonna swing at
it out of the strike zone and he's gonna crush
it into the seat, and it may happen tonight, and
when he does, we're all gonna say, that's my guy.
And it won't be a fastball that's sitting dead red,
So right right down Broadway, it's gonna be one that
you're like, how do you get to that? And you're
gonna say, oh, that's our guy. And that's why he's
(01:57:49):
in a lineup, and his history is shown that he's
capable of doing this regularly.
Speaker 6 (01:57:54):
Someone three two one two five seven ninety New Orleans, Chris,
Good morning, Chris.
Speaker 12 (01:58:00):
Hey guys, I'm a little frustrated this morning. This continual
bench people, fire hitting coaches. It's just grinding my gears.
And the thing is, I don't know if you guys
remember Chappelle used to have a thing about modern problems
require modern solutions. Sometimes modern problems require historical solutions, So
(01:58:21):
we can go back to the nineties. So I'm gonna
tell you what they need to do to fix this.
First of all, when they get on that plane from
Toronto to Atlanta, they need to divert it diverted to
San Antonio because you know what.
Speaker 7 (01:58:34):
They got in San Antonio. According to Charles Barkley, they.
Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
Got them big old women.
Speaker 7 (01:58:39):
And what they need to do deplay these guys and.
Speaker 12 (01:58:44):
Dana can thank me for this later when he hears this.
Speaker 5 (01:58:47):
Deplaying those guys.
Speaker 12 (01:58:49):
You take them out to the bar and Mark Grace
unlocked this.
Speaker 5 (01:58:54):
Cheap code in the nineties.
Speaker 13 (01:58:56):
They need to go out to the bar, find them
one of them big old women.
Speaker 7 (01:59:00):
And get them a slumpbuster, and they can thank me later.
Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
Only if they're single. Thanks, thanks Chris, only if they're single.
But point well taken.
Speaker 16 (01:59:11):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:59:11):
Well, one thing that I don't think I'm gonna ask
Dana Brown, although it would be funny, Dana, you guys
want to head to Santonio and get a big fat
girl slumpbuster. Charles. Charles sent the mesters twice and he
sent it to us here in Houston. Wanted us to
pass along to you. Uh, Charles Sparkle, that is good,
Go get the slump buster. Data would probably laugh, But
I don't know if the general man is going to
(01:59:32):
encourage got out and drop in some pound cake in
San Antotio. They got to stop at a lad at first,
But I do get his point. And Mark Grace did
make the slumpbuster quote famous. Well, no doubt, here's one
of the kind. Here's here's how that would go. You
would ask the question, he would answer it in the moment.
Speaker 6 (01:59:47):
But then you know who gets the text message that
astros GM Dana Brown is not going to join us anymore.
On Wednesdays at nine thirty, I would get the text message.
Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
I'll push the envelope on a lot of things. Slump
busters with Jaya probably one of them. But don't think
in that clubhouse. Somehow, some way the conversation, man, I
got to guess, I mean joking around that that's been
brought up, and it's a good thing to laugh at.
Who of us have we've all even when you're goal
to your slump, no matter what sport or what part
(02:00:17):
of life you're in. Man, And you don't literally but
figure you like, I need the slumpbuster whenever that's turn
your hat backwards or get a big fat girl, whatever
you consider it. But yeah, I don't know if Dana
ay Man data things are going, well, how's this man
going well, I mean struggling at the plate a little bit.
By the way, I know a way to fix it.
Stevie sean, Well, let's bottle up and sell. Well, she's
too big to bottle up and sell, but a slumpbuster
(02:00:37):
in San Antonio. There you go.
Speaker 6 (02:00:39):
You could do what Rex Hudler used to do. I
love hud The way to fire up the guys in
the clubhouse. You would do naked handstand pushups. No, I
don't think anybody's gonna go for that, but.
Speaker 1 (02:00:48):
You know, yeah, well the optics are already which I
mean gross me out. Yeah, because the dangling it's you're
actually if you're with Sadian naked upside down handstand pushups, yeah, well,
aren't you natural gonna possibly t bag yourself?
Speaker 6 (02:01:02):
Well, I mean you possibly could, but I mean I
think also though, I think that would mean you're like
eighty five in their game of the goal was like
to discuss everybody so much that then they would take
their mind off of what is ailing them at the plate.
Speaker 1 (02:01:16):
Well, the best drive I have struggled, like I told yesterday,
was one of those that trying to find the fair
way the way you want to and a scramble, sure,
and my garf, like Garfield, comes up. He goes, what
did Dan Patrick say to you one time? Or what
did you guys do? Uh? Oh, do you know the
Lakers former GM Mitch cup check?
Speaker 7 (02:01:33):
You know?
Speaker 1 (02:01:34):
And then he asked me. I said, well, yeah, I
cup checked Mitch cupcheck. At one point Dan tells the
story dude, and Dan was with It was all time classic.
So Garf always reminds me of it. And the next
after I'm said, they're laughing my ass off about the
Mitch cup cha. He goes, did you really, he said,
did you cup check Mitch kupchack? I said, well, Dan
and I and the the dan Ets were sitting at
a place and he walks in and Dan goes, no, Sean,
(02:01:58):
I said, out of all these years, even you're joking
around and cup checking people cup checked Mike Tyson's New
Orleans one year, Tyson is my guy. Oh okay, he laughed. No,
that might have been the big guy six about six
eight big horses got but a former teamate of miney
two plays one of the great people of all time
love I called him kid Dynamite after Mike Tyson, a
(02:02:20):
sports illustrated so Tye kid, we did you know cup
checked him? So he said no, Sean I said yes,
and and Goffy said he goes, So when did you
do Mitch cupchack? Anybody said, dude, I'm Mitch cup checked
Mitch cupchack. How can you not? You can't miss that opportunity,
not literally, but give it. You know who's the Lakers? Yeah,
(02:02:41):
you're the Lakers. Yea me Mitch cup chack, oh boom
and fake Mitch cupchacking. So damn said, no, you can't
Mitch cup check. Mitch guy said, dude, out of all
the years you've been incurred, I can Mitch cup chack
Mitch cupchack. So Garf and I were laughing about it,
but you know what, I'm laughing my ass if guess
what My next drive was, good drive smoked it and
he's like, yep, more mitche cupchack jokes. So maybe they
(02:03:02):
need some gotch cup tracks in there, But I don't
need a naked hand sand from hud Uh. That gross
out so much that that's not gonna take me off.
It's gonna make me throw it and I'm gonna be
too sick to swing the bat. Remember remember less, remember
this where you know gotcha oh yeah, yeah, yeah, where
you know you do do the the ring. Oh yeah,
and then when they look at it, yeah yeah, it's
(02:03:22):
like playing the slug bug game.
Speaker 6 (02:03:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:03:26):
By the time you're done, you've got to your your
arms so raw from getting beat up from getting hit.
It's like, okay, enough, man, we can start. We can
play pencil break again. Whatever slump buster that is. They
could use something that busts that something. And you know what,
maybe scoring a little couple back to back jobs to
start off would be a nice way to do it. Huh,
help would be great to start the game off. That'd
(02:03:47):
be great, or you don't just play pencil break. But
I think the best part of that story is Sean. No, yes,
there you go. That's always the best. All right.
Speaker 6 (02:03:57):
You know what, Since we got a lot of you
in here, I will USh all the Texans for now,
but we'll get to you guys. And then also, Dana
Brown going to join us here in about fifteen minutes
for his weekly visit. Without Sean's question, we'll discuss here.
It is a Shaan Salisbury show, Sports Talk seven ninety now.
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Speaker 12 (02:05:41):
Let's go.
Speaker 6 (02:05:42):
This is the Sean Salisbury show logan on the southwest side.
Speaker 5 (02:05:47):
Good morning logan.
Speaker 7 (02:05:49):
Yeah, just uh bo.
Speaker 14 (02:05:50):
There's been one hundred thoughts go through my mind about
what movie clips could be made out of slumpbusters.
Speaker 6 (02:05:57):
And I can't thank of the best for each Your
Phelps was the owner of this team. Then they could
peel a piece.
Speaker 5 (02:06:03):
That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:06:04):
Every time we win, we peel a section.
Speaker 7 (02:06:10):
That's good exactly.
Speaker 14 (02:06:11):
Listen, I got to call Okay, I've never heard so
many callers about one subject, and it's the closer and look,
we got to brave, we got to use them, but
we got no choice because there's no argument there. Okay,
you get you got the Brian King. You try different
guys and that. But listen, my point is this last night,
I totally highly respect the guy that did the post
(02:06:34):
game show.
Speaker 7 (02:06:35):
I love him, and he's got.
Speaker 1 (02:06:36):
He's got a lot of just just just like you guys.
Speaker 7 (02:06:40):
He tells it like it is.
Speaker 14 (02:06:41):
But here's the thing. I have to totally disagree with him,
and I never thought I would to the point that
I do a caller caller and said, look, there is
a reason people have closers. Every team in the MLB
has one man and one man only that you do
not bring in unless it's absolute and merge and see
in the eighth inning, and never in the seventh, but
(02:07:03):
sometimes in the eighth you have one man who is
specifically geared to come in in the bottom of the
ninth and get three men out. He's got special knowledge,
special pitches, special skills.
Speaker 7 (02:07:18):
And exactly, exactly and and what's his name?
Speaker 14 (02:07:24):
Last night, disagreed with this caller and and and then
I couldn't.
Speaker 7 (02:07:31):
Ross right.
Speaker 9 (02:07:32):
And he disagreed with his caller.
Speaker 14 (02:07:34):
He said, no, no, no, you can bring a Britain. No,
a Brad was great. He's in a slump now and
by the way, ell two of the he's got he's
in the worst slump of his career. But he will
come out of it. But I'll get my opinion, he
better come out of it in the next couple of
weeks because if he doesn't, he is not going to
come out of it in the postseason. And that's that's
(02:07:54):
my only thing there.
Speaker 5 (02:07:56):
But listen, as far as the closer goes.
Speaker 14 (02:07:59):
There, there's only one man that every team in baseball
has that they hire for one specific reason to come
in in the bottom of the ninth. If you give
up a run or a hit in the eighth or
the seventh inning, you still have a chance to overcome it.
Speaker 7 (02:08:14):
And the ninth you don't.
Speaker 5 (02:08:16):
Okay, and and you have to have that one man
got you.
Speaker 6 (02:08:22):
Hey, I'm sorry, man, I got to catch you off.
We we got Dana Brown coming up here, so we're
gonna have to leave it there. We'll get Dana Brown
real quick quote. Yeah, I go, Anthony, Well, thank you.
Craig Kimberl has eight outings with the Astros and has
yet to give up and earned run. I didn't mind
that decision by Joe there. He's been good since he's
been here.
Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
So forag if you're just going by results, you may
not think he belongs in the role because he doesn't
have an overpowering fastball anymore. But does he?
Speaker 5 (02:08:51):
He lost on two ground balls. That's why you lost
last night.
Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
So and the inability for yourself to get the ground
ball through the infield to drive in a run. There
you go.
Speaker 6 (02:09:00):
That's thereon lies the rub all right, Dana Brown his
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The Sean Salisbury show continued Future World says champion astros
Dana Brown joins us day and before I hit your
team and thanks for joining us today as always for
(02:10:51):
your weekly visit. Then let me I want to go
to with your baseball expertise with youth baseball and high
school and cuse just the way we can train and
raise pictures. Do we have too much emphasis you see
the videos? Do we have too much emphasis on velocity
and velocity only for these young players?
Speaker 7 (02:11:12):
Yeah? Was then I think, you know, pictures are definitely
chasing velocity and spin rate and all those things that
you know, make the ball move and make the ball
jump on hitters. And so even at a younger age,
you see guys that are throwing a little bit harder,
and so I think there's some stress on the arms
and and so I think that's why we you know,
(02:11:33):
we see a lot of injuries today. But you know, ultimately,
these are competitive human beings, and you know, everybody wants
that age, and everybody wants to compete, and everybody's you know,
working hard to be good, you know. So it's you know,
kind of tough to to scale back on on guys
that are so competitive?
Speaker 1 (02:11:51):
Are we and then I'm gonna get into your team.
And I'm just curious from my insight and just trying
to get a gauge on this. Do we are we
raising more throwers than pitchers at a young age, Dana?
And you know you've seen great pitchers when you were
from Atlanta to hear You've watched him and covered it
and been a part of it and scouted it in general,
managure forever. So do we need more emphasis on pitching
(02:12:13):
as opposed to velo?
Speaker 7 (02:12:17):
Yeah? Look, I think you know, with guys chasing Vilo,
you end up being throwers instead of pitchers at times.
And you know, there are still a group of guys
that can really throw hard and really pitch at the
same time, right, you know that's that's that elite group.
And so but yeah, I think guys, it's wonderful to
see when a guy can operate, you know, when you
(02:12:38):
can just pitch ninety to ninety four and move the
ball around and throw a lot of strikes. That's that's
fun to watch, and the games move along quickly too.
But look, these guys are all competitive, man, I mean,
you you know, we're raising kids to compete, and that's
you know, what this generation has chosen.
Speaker 1 (02:13:00):
David Brown Astro's GM here on his weekly visit on
Sports Talk seven ninety Sean Salisbury Show, gut wrenching what
we saw with Garcia last night, any early returns on
your gut feeling about it and what you saw.
Speaker 7 (02:13:15):
Yeah, I'm gonna wait for the doctor. He's gonna go
in today and get some imaging and we'll take a
look and see what's going on. And it's definitely, you know,
tough to watch. I mean, you see a guy battle back,
you know, from an injury from April twenty twenty three,
and you know, he finally gets a few starts in
the big leagues and you know, all of a sudden
he goes back down and so you know, we're gonna
(02:13:37):
wait for the doctor to get more clarity on this injury.
But for sure, definitely disappointing.
Speaker 1 (02:13:44):
Yeah, and Dana with that was there going into that.
There was no signs of any other discomfort at all
before the start, right, this This was one of those
it happened last night, correct.
Speaker 7 (02:13:56):
Yeah, Look think about it. His last start, he was
pretty good, really good, competitive and through through hit size
in between starts, no issues. Uh, you know, went out
there was looking good for the first couple of innings
and then all of a sudden, you know, you know,
we see him signal to the dugout and and so
(02:14:18):
right away we're like, oh, what's going on? And so
now we know that, uh, you know, he's got to
get luck looked at. But thank god blue Ball came
in and threw the ball well and kind of continued it.
Speaker 1 (02:14:30):
He's really good, Dana blue Balls. Impressive, right, got it?
His mentality, he attacks the hitters. You I would imagine
you're pretty impressed with what you've seen from him. And uh,
is he here to stay at least this year? And
will it be in a starting roller in the bullpen
or does it really matter right now for you guys?
Speaker 7 (02:14:49):
Yeah, I mean we're gonna take that. We're going to
evaluate that there is a chance that he could end
up in a rotation. You know, especially the way he's
been throwing the ball. You know, you talk about a
guy pitching, you know, you could see him adding adding
subtrack with the fastball. You know, he was like ninety three,
ninety four, and then all of a sudden, he'll go
up to ninety seven to get a strikeout. And so
(02:15:12):
you know, he was really really pitching him. So he's
been throwing the ball very well, you know over his
last few appearances. Uh, he's been really good. Eight innings,
ten strikeouts and those last four appearances, so he's really making.
Speaker 1 (02:15:25):
A push, Dana. When with injuries do you guys have
in your in the and how you guys go about it?
Is it a the same routine? You know, how we
have check we've been checking off as you're going through
putting your game plan in and the same thing or
when you're doing whatever it is and been Business World
or Baseball World or Sports World, it's your checklist. Like
for this show, every day what we're doing. But when
it comes to the injury evaluation, is there a checklist
(02:15:48):
you guys go through for each and every individual or
each and every situation.
Speaker 7 (02:15:53):
Yeah, Look, our doctors are very in tune with each
of our players, and it's every individual is different and
so now that's kind of like how we handle it.
And you know, when a guy goes down, we have
certain protocols that we follow and you know, we try
to get him back as soon as possible. But we
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you know, along with the doctors and the imaging and
you know, we do a lot of different things when
it comes to evaluating, you know, the return of players
and so uh, as I mentioned each guy his own individuals,
so it's it's person related and so you know, we
definitely have a checklist of you know, what we go
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through is so it's unfortunate that this year we've we've
suffered so many injuries and you know, look the big
pictures were still a game up and we control our
own fate and you know, we just simply need to
get hot and we need to start swaying the bats.
Speaker 1 (02:16:54):
Well, we see Josh Hader in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (02:16:58):
I think there's a chance that we see John Hater.
More likely it would be a postseason uh, you know,
but he's grinding to try to get back. But I
think it's more like the postseason because we're at a
time we're gonna have seventeen seventeen games last and you know,
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when you sit out for a certain amount of time,
it takes time to build back up, yep, And so yeah,
it's gonna take a little while to get him back.
Speaker 1 (02:17:28):
Did we know how electrical brad you is, Dana, Do
you think from your expertise he's comfortable in the closer
role right now.
Speaker 7 (02:17:36):
Yeah, I mean, think about a brave man. He's he's
nasty for yeah, two four nine earn run average, has
got over one hundred strikeouts. You know, he's closed out
four of the five staves since uh, you know, Hater
went down, and so look, it's it's definitely a good
punch to to lose a game like that last night.
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But you know, A Brady's been really good for us,
and so you know, one of the things we you know,
we just have to stay focused on is you can't
put give out free passes. You cannot walk guys late
in the game. And I think the walks came back
to haunt us, and so that makes it very difficult
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to put a team away. You know late you got
to go right after him.
Speaker 1 (02:18:21):
And will he be I mean when it gets to
the ninth inning, he is going forward at least until
Hater's back or otherwise notified, obray, who's going to be
the guy closing out the ninth inning? Correct?
Speaker 7 (02:18:33):
Yeah, So I would say, look, he's going to get
save opportunities for sure, depending on you know, how many
days in a row he throws or how many pitches
that he throws. I mean he threw I think it
was twenty nine last night, so it was probably not
available tonight to close out the game, right, But when
we have opportunities to close, he's going to be one
of the guys that we call on the close.
Speaker 1 (02:18:56):
Dana Brown astros GM for a couple more minutes here
on Sports Talk seven ninety is we visit We're always
grateful for runners in scoring position, a bit of you know,
the timely hit data. You've talked about it, great at bats,
good at bats, working the count, all those things. How
do you buck this trend? You know, when you're into
game planning and working against the looking at the analytics
of the other team's pitcher and all that. It's tough
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to work on those things during a season, Dana, how
do you fix this? With seventeen games to go heading
into the playoffs? When I say fix, how do you
buck the trend of runners in scoring position not getting
the clutch hit? Is it just you got to get it?
Or is there something you can do to change the
course of this?
Speaker 7 (02:19:35):
Yeah, this is twofold one. Look, our pitching has been
really good all year.
Speaker 1 (02:19:39):
Thank goodness, right, Dana, Thank goodness, yep.
Speaker 7 (02:19:42):
Yeah, pretty much carrying us right. And so when it
comes down to these last seventeen games, I just think
we're going to have to really force the pitcher to
throw the pitches that we want to see. You know,
right now, I think we're swinging that pitches on the edges.
They're a lot of a lot of these pictures are nibbling.
If you watch the game and you watch it closely
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like I do, you know, they're they're pitching around the
edges and our guys are a little too amped up
and they're swinging at some of the pitchers pitches instead
of grinding me at that and making a guy come
in the zone. You know, uh, you know, you take
the DS at bat last night when he got the
RBI down the left field line. You know, the prior
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to that, the pitch the pitcher threw a ball like
out of the strike zone. We kind of chased it,
but you know, Diaz waited for the next pitch and
he threw it one in the zone and he and
he took advantage of it. That's really the crux of
it right there. I think that you know, we're gonna
have to force the pictures to come in the zone
so we can get you know, get our pitches. Stop
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being so over anxious. And I think guys are trying
to do too much because we you know, the hitters
understand and they feel it. They know they understand that, Look,
we need to make some adjustments and they're pressing a
little bit, I think, And so we're just gonna have
to be a little bit more patient. And as I
always talk about, they usually come in bunches. It's just
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that we're seventeen games away from the end of the
season and we're gonna have to turn the corner here soon.
Speaker 1 (02:21:15):
And Dana, that's been a trend at the plate this year.
You've talked patients and good at bats and working to
get your pitch as opposed to the pitcher's pitch. So
at this stage, though, how do I mean trying to
convince them to do it? And as the pressure starts
to mount, as you get closer to the playoffs, doesn't
that pine for well you start to chase even more
because that's been the trend this year. How do you
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buck the trend? We know what the answer is, how
do you get the answer to the test? So how
do you get to it on a daily basis right now.
Speaker 7 (02:21:45):
Yeah, we're just gonna have to get locked in. I
mean maybe we have to just sit and medicate and
just kind of focused on you know eyes cause you
know the old school thing where you just close the
eyes and you envision yourself swinging at really good pitches.
So and stop being overrangees. Uh, you know, we're just
gonna have to get creative like that and really think
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this thing through and lock down. I know that the
players are very aware of it, you know, so these
hitters are not you know, this is not new to
the hitters. They understand that. Look, we have to get
locked in, and you know, uh, thank god, we're still
control our fate. We're up one and we need to
put some space in between this right now, and we
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we play those guys. You know, we play Seattle three
more times. We you know, we play Texas three more times,
so you know, we're gonna get the opportunity to deliver
a knockout punch. And we're still in first place place
and we've been we've been in first place for a
long time. We just we control our fate. It's just
we've got to get the job done.
Speaker 1 (02:22:46):
What do you see with hose L two Bay struggle
right now just in a is that bats because we
know he's a guy that will go after high fastballs
and chase a little bit, but that's his he's a
great ham and egg guy. He's been great with that.
But when he's going through it, it's it's hyper sense.
What do you see from your expertise from him?
Speaker 7 (02:23:03):
Yeah, sometimes these things unravel, you know, because you get
over anxious and you know he knows, he knows what
he needs to do. There's no question. I mean, Jose is,
you know, on the brink of being, you know, a
Hall of Famer. So look, this is not a guy
that's far into getting hits. He's a clutch guy. He
can deliver and he can carry a club for weeks
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and months. But you know, right now he's expanding his
zone a little bit. He's got to tighten his zone up.
And you know, once he gets locked into that zone,
I think good things are going to happen. But you
know we've got to get him there sooner rether than later.
Speaker 1 (02:23:41):
Dan, I know how much you trust your pitchers. We've
talked about and they've been damn good and carried this
team this year for the most part. And I know
the history of the guys at the plate. Do you
trust them the same way you did when this season started?
Speaker 7 (02:23:56):
Absolutely? I mean think about this. We've gone through this
season with all the ebbs and flows of injuries and
the ups and downs, and these guys have continued to
maintain and hold on to what's dear to our heart,
and that's getting back to the postseason and getting deep
into the postseason. And you know, with seventeen to go
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and one up, there's a lot that could happen. You know,
you can go on an eight game run and build
that lead up to five, and which I think we'll do.
We just need to get hot. We need to get
hot soon. These guys are really good. If you look
up and down our lineup, the lineup's good, the rotation's good.
You know, even losing Garcia, we could inshirt blue ball
in there. Who's throwing the ball well, So we're good enough.
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You know, we just got to get the job done.
But they'll make no mistake. This club is good enough.
And you know, we have enough pitching, We have enough
hitng we have enough bullpen, we have the defense. We
just got to get the job done. And I believe
in this club. This is a good club, and you
know we have playoffs pedigree and you know that's where
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we want to get back to the playoffs and get
deep into the postseason.
Speaker 1 (02:25:04):
And I'll let you go simple one here with that
in mind, this uh, the the is it comes you trust. Also,
the postseason shops. So getting there is an advantage for
this resilient team that's been there many times before, because
that does matter to you.
Speaker 7 (02:25:21):
Absolutely. Look, we want to win the division and we
want to get deep into the postseason, and we want
to continue to keep our Astro fans excited locked in. Uh. Look,
we're we're a good club and we know that we
have the fan base pulling for us. Uh, you know,
we want to want this fan base to continue to
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understand that. Look, we're locked in on the postseason and
that's where we're headed and we just need to get
the job done.
Speaker 1 (02:25:48):
And the minimal rest. It's go time, minimal rest for
those stars, right, you said it last week, gets time.
It's the dead sprint. And when they're healthy enough to play,
they're playing. That's what we're going to see in the lineup.
Speaker 7 (02:25:58):
All right, whatever, Look whatever he enough to play, they're
going to play. You know, the one case we may
have to do is hit reset just mentally for you know,
a guy here and there. That's it's just part of
what we do. You know, it won't be because of
any physical thing. I think sometimes you just have to
hit reset with the day off, you know.
Speaker 17 (02:26:17):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (02:26:17):
And I don't know how that's going to play out,
you know, I think that you know, for the most part,
these guys are going to be all in the lineup
for the for the rest of the way. But there
are times and you know, as a you know, a
guy that's fenish sports your entire life, you have to
hit reset at some point mentally. Uh, just the wusaw
a little bit and so uh but let's hope that uh,
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you know, these guys are locked in and ready to go.
And and we don't need a mental break either. I
think these guys are. These guys are ready to go.
We have a good enough team. It's it's as I
said before, it's go time. Like it's seventeen games left
and we got to get the job done. That's what
that's what that's what it boiled down.
Speaker 1 (02:26:57):
It starts tonight against a good Toronto team. Dana, thank
you so much. Look next week and hopefully that Lee
will be extended by our next conversation and we'll get
good news on Garcia.
Speaker 5 (02:27:05):
We appreciate your time, man, thank.
Speaker 7 (02:27:06):
You absolutely, Today's the day to turn it around.
Speaker 1 (02:27:10):
There, you go appreciate it. That's Dana Brown, Astros GM.
We'll visit with him again next week. We'll come back
and close it out here with Dan and I. It
is Sports Talk seven ninety. Still is u as optimistic
as ever, but he knows that hitting has to pick
it up, absolutely has to. Sports Talk seven ninety and
the Sewn Salsbury Show continued.
Speaker 6 (02:27:30):
Rangers and Mariners both a game and two and a
half games back, respectively. But Dana Brown still confident in
this team, still believes they can do it. And you
heard what he said to the Astros fans. They're locked
in seventeen games to go.
Speaker 1 (02:27:43):
Sean have to be and he trusted Al two is
going to find his way out of it. But Chase
Mode and I think when he was talking about a
mental day, but I think part of that was referring
to Al two Bay. Sometimes a mental day is more
important than a physical day. Al two Bay Homers tonight.
First at at, I wouldn't be shocked. Springer got the
best of them last night, so it's time for return
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the favor.
Speaker 15 (02:28:05):
He did.
Speaker 6 (02:28:07):
That looked like the World Series right there. I was like,
oh my god. I was like, God, it just sucks
that it's on the other team. Just fills on our team.
You're like, oh, way to go joke. Oh no, yeah,
still love them and I will always love that guy,
no doubt. All Right, he's Shawn with energy. You damn
right he did?
Speaker 5 (02:28:24):
Did you use that?
Speaker 7 (02:28:25):
For sure?
Speaker 6 (02:28:26):
He's triple Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews talk to you in
twenty hours.
Okay, let's do this. Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
To usc Troup's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthewscus, this is the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
And that's a ground ball hits off the mound fielded
by the second basement. Connor Filever races the second to
get the out and throws to first for the double
play too in the inning. So Isaiah counter Philpa starts
the twin killing. Now the one one and that is
lined in the left center field for a baship that'll
score a Heineman Clement around third and coming home. The
photo to play by Dubon on a Hoppit gets past
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the catcher Diaz. Clement slides in safely. Runners go to
second and third and the Blue Jays have tied it
at three. The O two to Carratini, and that's a
ground ball pulled right side, feel the by Guerrero.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
He goes to third with it and they get out
to bay.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
How about that Vladimir Guerrero Junior throwing across the diamond
and getting the lead runner out to bay one two.
Guerrero takes off balls grounded right side, diving stop by
walker throw a hole not nearly in time, Straw slides
in and the Blue Jays went at four to three
and ten.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Serenity. Now that's all I can say, Sean serenity. Now
with that we say away we go in. Good morning
here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I mean, you.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Probably expected a little bit more disdain out.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Of me, but I think at this point, me and
most Astros fans we're just beat down, man like we're we're.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Just like, it's it's a all right. You can yell
at the hitters.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
It clearly doesn't matter because well they go two for
ten or two for eleven with runners in scoring position
and leave eleven runners on base again and the ninth inning,
Brian and Bray you, well, he's been what he's been
the last few times out that you've put them in
the ninth inning, anything but locked down.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's weird man. Good morning to our listeners out there.
You guys, triply, this is no surprise that they're in
this position. This is who they are. We've said it
a million times. They have the inconsists. I don't know
what we're battling for, not you, but just anybody to
think that you're going to get anything different than what
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you've seen this year. I don't know how much body
of work we need to see for you to be
convinced that this is going to be one of those
every game you're hoping on a wing and a prayer
that they hit at the right time. That's what you're hoping.
And the devastating part, it didn't look to me like
Luis Garcia has a It looks to me like we're
back to rehab for a while and possibly surgery again.
(02:45):
Just from my vantage point, when it happens that and
you know, and when I knew when I tore my knee,
I didn't have to have anybody come tell me. Now,
I'm not a doctor from a distance, but when it
happens that quickly, that's not it's been me. That's uh, oh,
that's that's been it's it's been bothering me. And that's oh,
(03:08):
my gosh, this is not good because you don't run
him out there if it's been bothering him.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
So that's devastating.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I care more about Luis Garcia than I do about
the fact they lost last night. For the team, yes,
but the dude's been through a two month rehab and
surgery and it doesn't look like a two month two year,
say two year, twenty four months.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Basically two months is in there, but many two years.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And now now he's got to go through the the
the unfortunate part of waiting for the result, and in
his mind maybe he already knows. And it's sad. Man,
it's a bummer because the truth is all the competition
and it's sports and all that, and we're supposed to
be desensitized. It sucks taken from a guy who's blown
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it out twice, and I know it's different for him.
Legs for a quarterback and arm and you know the thing,
you know, the arm they're throwing with. I just the
emotional and mental grind that goes with if it is
as severe as it looked, is just brutal. It just
just is. I know, Oh, it gets paid a lot.
(04:14):
Don't bring money and all that stuff into this. Now.
I hear that from people, Well, you get paid, it
makes it easier.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well that's like saying, well, you get a golden parachute
on your way out, even though it's not CEO parachute,
but you got let go because well you had to
miss a few days because you were sick. And then
they just just did you couldn't play anymore or you
had to leave your job prematurely. Yeah but you got
a lot of money. Yeah but you got a lot
of money. But guess what, you got to go through
the riggers of going through all the things because it
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won't last forever. It's just that there's human stuff that
gets these athletes and it's just a bummer for a
good dude and having to reh So what's next? I
don't know, but it didn't look good. And I know
we're gonna get the well, we're gonna wait and then
we're gonna look at the pictures when you have to
come out after what in any of two thirds, it's
it's not a good sign. That's the one thing we
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do know. And now we'll let the doctors do their thing.
But astros not clutch when they got a chance to
score runs and Toronto comes through in extra innings and
bray you, I'm going to tell you, man, I know
how good he is. It's amazing what one inning will
do to change a guy's approach and how effective they are.
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I take you back to Presley lights Out postseason. Guy
here gets demoted to the eighth inning, and it's like, hmm,
that right there is uh, that's you know, it's tough
to deal with. And now you get the you move
to the closer role, and we've all said he's fit
for it, and he may be a great closer, but
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he's had his struggles since he's got that role. It's
it's I mean, there's a pressure that goes with it.
They end up losing the game last night, and now
it's one game and this is exactly what it was
going to look like in March. It's looking like it.
Yet I don't think any of us thought then we'd
be having the same Groundhog Day conversation in twenty twenty
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five that we had in twenty twenty four, the inability
to get clutch hits with the runners in scoring position.
And and here we are. Well, you mentioned Brian Abrady.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
He's given up eight earned runs in three and two
thirds innings in the month of September.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
He has a fifteen e RA right now with five
earned runs.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Now, remember how last year everybody wanted Josh Hater out.
You're begging for his ass back, now, aren't you, and
getting a break you back in the eight hole in
the eighth you know, in the eighth inning and and
getting a trying to find that routine. But it can't
surprise you with the way the season's gone, mixing and matching,
trying to find places to put them and seeing if
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one role works for one guy something works for somebody else,
and injuries and will they be back, and some guys
that came back still have not. You know, you're still
wondering who the colors is and I mean, there's just
so many and they don't. It's it's amazing the lack
of consistency at the plate for a bunch of time
outed players. I know it's baseball. I know it's a
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long season all that, but at this stage of the game,
I really don't care how long the season is. The
Astros are just say this is they're going to have
to hope they get fortunate, get great pitching, and are
fortunate in a game that they score enough runs and
they get lights out pitching, because they're they're not long
for six seven runs against good pitching right now. They're
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just not twenty twenty five. I'm talking about on a
consistent basis. It's not and to make it bad doesn't
mean they're not the talent at all. That it just
means that if you don't know who they are one
hundred and forty five games in, then then you're probably
haven't been watching much this year. Last night epitomize kind
of some of the things that have gone on this year, right,
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And normally you'll get pitching here to close that out
and to jump out keep a lead and not lose it.
And guess what, the pitching couldn't do it last NI.
But you had to know that after all this time
and after all they've done, at some point, pitching is
gonna get caught up with At times they're good, I
mean they're gonna you can't expect lights out all year long,
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especially when you're mixing and matching starting you don't know
from day to day who you who you're getting and
what order, and so it's I'm I obviously have faith
that the talent of the team and the resilience, but
like I said before, grit, resilience, talent all that doesn't
mean a hill of beans if it doesn't equal production.
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And at the plate this year they've been an average
production team. They just have well in some cases they've
been below average. Oh and in many when you're talking
to set in the bar for if you're going through
each individual and the stats of runners and scoring position,
all that real far blow and the power bats. I mean,
their powers got to be bottom third in the league
still statistically it has to be when it comes to
home runs, it's it's and at times they've struck out
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more it's it's it's just a team that's it's there's
nothing there. They're not a great team. They're a good
team that has their put it this way. They play
like a first place team that can win a World Series.
Sometimes they play like a team that won't belong in
the playoffs. Sometimes and they look like a team who
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can get to the playoffs. But it's gonna grind, have
trouble getting through the most of the time. In twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Well, I mean, it's just it's exactly a conversation that mean,
you had last week of do you trust this team
to go on a run in a good way or
do you trust this team to go on a skid?
You point more towards the skid right now, I mean,
because you've now lost two straight series. You lose one
more game in this series, that's gonna be three straight,
and I mean, there's no sign that this team is
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going to consistently put this together.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
If you're just going by twenty twenty five history, this year,
there's a good chance that you're gonna get that they've
had more damn then damn and so this isn't why
now we expect them to be damn because two years ago,
last year, three years ago, well unfortunately, And can they Yes,
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but so can Seattle, and soakin Texas, and so can
Oakland at times, so can so So can you know,
maybe not Pittsburgh, but so can Toronto. Soaking the Yankees.
There's a lot of SOA cans out there, But the
question is how long can you do it? And how
long can you sustain it? And will you get not
just hits? Would they bang out twelve thirteen hits last night? Eleven? Yeah?
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So you bang them out, but it's when you get them.
I've sat a million times when you're up nine to
one and you're the team you're playing up nine to
one and you hit two solo home runs in the
seventh to get it to nine to three. Great, looks
good on the average, stats go up, get you paid.
But solo home runs with nobody on base and you're
down nine because you didn't score with runners in scoring
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position the first six innings or a problem. And at
some point in time nobody complained about the pitching. They're
going to go through those things where they don't have it,
and you got to pitch a bunch of bodies and
wear them out and losing Garcia now's taken away some
innings and a guy who's a grinder and who I
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absolutely love and feel sick for over this. But this
is I mean, we want to say the pitching has
carried them on their back for the better part of
two years. When you say that, well, y'all, two Bay's
a hall of it, Yeah he is. All those things
are fine. The ord gets three more hits last night,
no huh, but they still lost. And so whenever the
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pitching has a down game or somebody gets hurt and
you got to use you got to empty the bucket
and pitch a lot of people. I can tell you
one thing and go the rest of the season. And
when this season's over, you're still going to say the
strength of the team was pitching, period. And quite frankly,
the distance between the strength of one and the strength
of the other is not close. In twenty twenty five,
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it's not close. It's about time you start putting Graham
on Grandpa on your arms and carrying them a little
bit if you're the hitting. And right now it's hard
to trust that they'll do that because they haven't in
twenty twenty five. And I'm sorry, I'm not. I don't
have twenty seventeen or twenty nineteen. I mean good teams
on my I mean teams that could bury you from
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one to nine. I don't have that on my mind
right now because one hundred and forty five games or
so in you have not seen it consistently. And good
pitching usually beats good hitting, and this year good pitching
gets as when you're pitching well against the Astros and
they're doing their thing, the Astros are spending more time
going after a pitcher's pitch than their own.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
It's like the meme of Master Splinter and the Ninja Turtles,
where the top frame is young Ninja turtles and Master
Splinters leading them along. So it's like the pictures of
the young Ninja turtles, and then you get older, it's
the pitchers leading an old Master Splinter.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
No it's in your family. Parents take care of you.
Forever they turn ninety, might be time that you take
care of them, you know, and make they get to
come to Sunday dinner instead of them planning that you do.
You know, all those things and not they're old. But
in using that terms or metaphor, that's in truth what
the Astros hitting needs to do, because you can get
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lights out pitching, but you can you're gonna get lights
out pitching from a couple of these other teams in
the postseason, which means three to one still sends you home.
If that's to score two games in a row when
you're playing in a short series, you get to go
home again. So potential's there, but we can't keep down.
We're inside the teams now. You got seventeen games to go.
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I don't know when the sprint starts, but I just
started the sprint thirty games ago. But that's just me, okay.
I don't start the sprint in football December seventeenth, as
the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
How that starts last year.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
You don't start to sprint a little earlier, you just
miss out qualifying for all the big stuff. You get
close and it looks at that two thousand and nine
can't start the sprint light happened to us when I
was in Seattle. We had a few games, I mean
my rookie year, dude, we were loaded talent wise. We
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started and then we went on a run. David Craig
couldn't miss if he was He had a blindfold on
and threw it behind his back for about five straight games.
It was like, I mean, I remember the last game
of the season, We're playing Denver. It's a Saturday game
in Seattle. Elway's team came to town. Dude, we beat
them like a friggin drum. I mean, we hammered their
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ass six ways to Sunday and twice on Sunday hung
forty plus on him. I believe, I mean our deed,
we destroyed them. They might have went on and got
to a super Bowl or this was nineteen eighty six.
I don't know where they ended, but they ended up
going on in the playoffs. Final day was Sunday. The
next day it was us in three we needed. There
was three games. We had to have Pittsburgh lose, Kansas
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City lose, and one other team lose on a Sunday
it's don where do you want to be? We were
ten and six, it was sixteen games schedule, and there
you go, and they got beat by the Giants. Right,
so we dude, if we get into the playoffs, and
I know, if my aunt had ball, she'd be my uncle,
just like we're talking about Cincinnati. If we get into
the playoffs, look out. Now, if we had have taken
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care of our business on an early game we get
beat by, I might be wearing a Super Bowl ring
because Kenny Easley, Jacob Green, Kurt Warner, the original Kurt
Warner running back, a dominant offensive line, pass Steve Largent,
Darryl Turner. We were loaded everywhere. Dude, Keith Butler, linebacker,
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former defensive coordinator for the past. I mean we're loaded.
And then Dave Craig, who'd been a pro both thrown
for a million yards. You see Dave Craig walking in
and you say that guy's an NFL quarterback and then
you go watch and play like, uh, yeah, we were
and we got into I don't know what's the final
score of that season, Like I said, last game, So
we have to wait. So on Sunday we wake up
getting ready. We're ten and six to get the playoffs. Please,
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but we waited and had to rely on somebody else,
and dude, it was one of the freakiest things. Pittsburgh
has some big win Kansas City blocks and scores. Three
special time I think it was two or three special
teams touchdowns. Albert Lewis blocked a kick, took it to
the house. I'm sitting there watching games on says, you
got to be kidding me. Just help from one. All
three of them took care of their business. We took
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care of our business on Saturday. On Sunday, we relied
on somebody and everything that could have gone somebody else's way,
but ours hit us right in the face. And guess
we had to do on Monday going there and clean
out our lockers and get ready for the next season.
It's a rough.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Feeling, but I mean, when you don't take care of
your own business and you have to rely on other people.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
We were getting in We were so good. Yeah, you
guess what, Sometimes you have an almost season. But remember
that late September game when we urinated down our leg.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
That was us.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I promise you there wasn't a team in the AFC
that would have beaten us if we'd played like we
did against it, if that momentum, that confidence continued, you
were not beating us in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
There's going to be a lot of regret this season
if if it doesn't end the way the Astros hope,
which probably already is well, it's it's definitely trending that direction.
Jason JTC. You guys, you want to join them seOne
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Speaker 2 (18:29):
Buckle up.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
The Shawan Salisbury show continues.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
It's going to be a hell.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
On two.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
To me, what I heard was the good Lord let
us down by not letting the Astros win. But remember
Toronto Blue Jays pray too. Just because they're in Canada.
I mean they don't play the same God you do.
We just we need the well. I mean there's good
Catholics in Toronto. Yeah, well there's was everybody just Catholic well,
the order of our well is it just? Catholics are
the only religion out there? Christianity there, but the the
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order of precigure a load.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
I mean, look, you know, if you need is it absolution?
What do they what do they try for? And in
Buddhism whatever I need. I need an absolute win. That
would be nice. And you looked like you were on
your way to that. And then the Ninth Inning happened
and Brian a bray you happened.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
But I just I don't know why you you you
you're the You killed their vibe. I didn't kill their vibe.
They killed our Kay did you hear what he said yesterday?
And today Astro's bats Even the Good Lord didn't help
him yesterday, and the Good Lord helps everybody sacrilegious. Do
you're gonna go You better go throw a few this weekend?
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Oh no, I'll throw a few, and I'll take my
penance like a man.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
You better throw a few, You better throw them out there,
I'll that's between me or the Lord. That's between me
and the Lord. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I mean, and I
don't want to play lord right here because I can't
keep up.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Well, I just I think what we need now is
the Great Sisters over at.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I w a.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Incarnate word to incarnate work. Yeah, well but they're they're
the rally Nuns.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So so we're gonna do anything we can to get
a rally down.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Damn right, we will.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
We're going to use the Good Lord is As a
matter of fact, here, when I say lead dog, I
mean the Good Lord's out in front.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
I'm gonna go out too, because I know that Mattress
Mac was very instrumental in twenty twenty one for the
rally Nuns.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Now you're blaming us on mattrespect so she just let
me lay it out for a second triple A God sakes, hey,
between this and Deed slam the friggin plane, Well, Mattress
Max was very instrumental in making the Rally Nuns happen
in twenty twenty one. So Roy, anybody listening up there
in between Tidwell and Parker on forty five, Well thanks
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for the address. Well, of course everybody knows where mack
he is.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Well, I mean, just in case you didn't, there's a
there's a constant reminder. But next week against the Rangers
and Mariners, we need the rally.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Nuns, I thought I heard you say it's Max's fault,
and that's not what I said. You said, that is
not what I said. Okay, I cleared it up again.
The Good Lord you said you prayed to the Good Lord.
Probably we prayed to the Good Lord. We did, and
according to you, the Good Lord's Catholic left every other religion.
We are the ones that started everyone, you know, just
to worth keeping score here, don't keep score if it
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wasn't for that busy body Martin Luther hammering a note
to a wall. Yeah, see, then you got and then
you tried to Did you say that matt Smack's not
rooting him on hard enough? Oh? No, he is. There
you go.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Mattress Smack is one of the rally.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
If there's anything, if there's anything I'm ever going to
criticize about anyone, it's never going to be Mattress. You've
got to ride with it, is matter, right, Okay. I
just I'm just you know, I don't know, I don't know.
My my antennae uh was up and it just said
did you got two of them? Double an ted? I'm
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that I'm that Uh well, what's the guy's name on SpongeBob,
square Pants, the little the little dude, what's his name?
Not Patrick, the little one, the little Mike, Yeah, Plankton, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Say, he's gonna say if you're gonna ask me for SpongeBob,
you were gonna get Nah. You know SpongeBob. He eats
crab Patty and he's got Patrick Starr. Do you hate
that's played by Dabber? You hate SpongeBob and that hurts?
You heard a lot of kids feelings. Luther is the
other guy. Okay, who cares?
Speaker 7 (22:18):
I care?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
No, you don't. Well, I just know who they are. Well, no,
I I just I remember who the characters is. No,
you don't know squid word is Okay, I know that
he's one of the characters.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
But that's it.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
You're squidty dog.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
You It just wasn't for me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I just think you disdained Dan, you know, for kids
and Joe Burrow. When the season is over and they
have their their exit meetings, the Astros, whatever that ends,
hopefully it's in the World series. Their number one conversation
is gonna be you know what, let us down, disdained Dan.
If they do, then I will try to do what
I can.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
But then at the same time, look, if you're gonna
hit me with the bad times when you do win
another World Series ring, then.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You watch some credit for the damn there. But so
you're gonna go let's let's go back up for a
second here. You say, what you throw a few out
out there this weekend? When you go to the Lord,
I mean to you, you know, to throw you what
do you say your penance? You say what I say, well,
how many? Very part of the sacrament of reconcil What
I say when I said, uh, how are you going
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to throw?
Speaker 5 (23:22):
You say, that'll be between you and the Lord?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Right, okay, the.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Lord, the Lord speaks through the Holy Father.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
What if what if you knock on that thing and
you have to go through your your you know, your
repentance process. Well, the best is when you have to
do it face to face. But what happens when you're
in the in the you know, what do they call
true accountability? What do they call the room the confessional? Confessional?
That was called that's I mean, that's how I would
call just the confession room confessional, right, confessional? What if
you you go in there and and it's you forgive
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you know, you're saying, forgive me father, and it's Joe
Spot and sitting next to him is Christian Walker in
the same room. You know what, you know what it
is with both of you guys. All right, that's not
really confessional behavior. I don't care, okay, And no.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
F bombs allowed in confession. No, No, I would not
swear in the Lord's house.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Yeah, I have too much for you.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Afraid you were afraid to say nut cutting time yesterday
and I had to.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
But that's just you. What do we tread lightly? Just
make it sure?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But it wasn't even six thirty, wasn't even digest. So
you're saying, if they lose, but if they win, you
want some credit for this damn thing.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
It could be nice.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Yeah, I mean, look, you're gonna ride with me in
the bad times, well, then when the things get good,
you ride with.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Me then, right, And if you're not gonna ride with
me the bad times, don't expect me to ride with
you in the good ones. Is that been anbod there go? Yeah, Okay,
I feel you, I feel you. No, I just was
trying to blame it on somebody, so I figured I'd
blamed blame the lack of hitting on you. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
I mean, I said, we can blame it on Triple
if you want. No, No, I know he's out of this.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
He's want to blame it on Sky Mike good, Yeah,
could blame it on Sky Mike.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
What about Clip of course? Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
I always blame it on Cliff every single time Hall
monitor on sales. We can blame it on Oh, we
can always blame it on them, trust me. We can
always find a way to do that.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So there's a lot of people we can just I
confess they did it.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
They are one hundred percent that you invite them over
to your house for a party, and most of the
friends bring something, you know, whether it be I don't know,
buffalo chicken dip which is delicious, or maybe baby daisy
of course, yeah, there you go in some daisy French onion.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Of course, best in the business, all of it.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah. But you know, then you also have a a
person or two who will show up without.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Goodies, but take them when they leave. Bingo, bingo.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
This day.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
This doesn't stop there. You can I take a plate
to go take a plate? What are you gonna do?
What do you want me to get out saran wrap.
I no, we want you to give him some tupperware. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Hey, so you got some to go containers. Well yeah,
they're for me. Except for me.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Brother, you don't take a free meal to go. That's
not how this goes, brother, Right, I feel you, and
you know what.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
J T.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Jason, Andrew, Jerome Roger. Look at you. We're gonna get
to you on the other side. But in the process
we'll involve you in the conversation.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
See, look at you. You're a quick study over there.
Good for you.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I just looking for somebody to blame. Dude, it might
as well be you. Why not, that's hey, you know,
it's just just take trains and automobiles.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Just come after me. That's fine.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I'm an easy target. Bear that bird, I get it.
You're gonna you'll wear it, you'll carry it on you shoulders.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
That's fine, feeling.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I'm just trying.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
I'm just over here trying to sell my shower curtain rods.
That's that's all I'm trying to do.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Any Nothing wrong with that, all right? No, No, No,
shower curtain rings. That's salesman, that's it. You got some bibs,
you better sell some bibles too.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Then the preaching the gospel though guy, I didn't have
anywhere to go for Thanksgiving, and then Steve Martin went
down the street and said, coming with us.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I'm not gonna lie. Gets me every time I brought
a teer to my e. It still does every time
you like he did care because you know what that
feels like real life.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
It is one hundred percent in real life.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
A holiday season, guys try to cover it up, and
you know else when you invite him over and you
kind of change that like yeah, that still to this day,
it brings a teer to my every time. Every time
I see it, I get choked up. Really gets me
go back to blaming you for the But Dan, I
don't can't build you up too long to just to
coin a phrase from well, I wouldn't call him a friend,
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but so is Dan. You shouldn't be talking baseball. Leave
that to the baseball guys. Oh of course, yeah, I
mean right, Rhino told you that, right, right, right right,
that's the non player get you're.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Not you're not allowed to if you didn't play, that's
time according to you know.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Then then we'll do then we'll do the picks segment
and I'll I'll get more picks right than he does,
which is what which is what Peter Schrager.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Did, but known to happen exactly.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Yeah, And then it was funny on Monday Night Countdown
how he was buddy buddy with him, because I'm.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Sure he probably I'm sure he probably got the riot
act from at some point in time. There's a tweet
coming out with a video saying, oh, yeah, man, I
got great teammates, and man, the one who knows football
better than anybody is Kyle I mean Peter Schrager. You
know it's cot Oh dude, you know it's coming to
sprint the other way that's coming down, the pandering, the
play cading. Do you bury your teammate on the air. Yeah, No,
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it's it's all coming. All right, we got one spot
open for you.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
As Sean said seven one three two one two five
seven ninety against seven one three two one two five
seven ninety does a Sean Salisbury show Sports Talk seven ninety.
But you know, speaking of if you have people over
and you invite them over, well you know your word,
Sean viddles, Well you better have some good vitals for him.
And just like we did last week from our birthday
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up here, get some brisket, get some pork ribs, maybe
some potato salads and beans thrown in there too. Jbar
M Barbecue. They supply all of that, and they do
they not supply some good stuff. And Peter said, what's
the phone over? You don't need to worry about the
phone number because you don't need to make reservations, No reservations.
Need to get up there, walk in, getting that line,
which if there is a line, and the reason say well, Sean,
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if there's not a line is oh, it's popular.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
They keep it moving. Why great food. People know what
they want and if they don't, doesn't matter. Close your
eyes and point to something you're gonna love it. And
then you get to walk indoors outdoors, get your bar there,
cold drink, great food. I roll through it all the time, sides,
and it's very rare that you go to place and
everything you like and I'm the stuff that maybe you
didn't even think that you wanted, you love. And that's
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where you get it at Jbarren Barbecue. Aside from great
customer service, the venue is awesome, great parking, which when
you say, well, Sean, doesn't everybody And that answer would
be no, but it's convenient and the food is off
the charts, and that if you're judging barbecue, I think
when it gets right down to it, that's how you
want to judge it, and find me somebody better. I
encourage you to try them all. You'll end up at
Jabarren Barbecue, whether you're in there to stay and go
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outdoor enjoy a game on Saturday, or whether it's taking
it home or bringing it to work like you did
to celebrate a birthday. There's a reason why people keep
doing it because they don't leave hungry and they love it,
and so do I.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
Well, you know, you go to most barbecue places and
you look at it and you say, where am I
gonna sit? The venue itself, you're talking about it. That's
never an issue at Jbarm a huge dining room. They're
inside Jbarm and you mentioned it. The beer garden outside
full service bar right there, twenty two on one Leland Street. Lunch, dinner, anytime,
it's always a great time to head on over to
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Jbarm Barbecue against J bar M Barbecue right there in Ito.
Name me al because I'm good for morale. Okay, nice? Yeah, nice,
that's that's me jeszy but nice. Yeah, it'szy, but.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
He got the job done. I think you can agree
with that. Just deliver it as you say. Yes, dock
the boat right, well, land the plane, land the plate. Oh,
I say, docked the boat the plate.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
But I got it.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
I got it from your good buddy Dan Patrick, because
he once aid ESPN was told, hey, why don't you
stick around because you know it'd be good for morale. Yeah,
you mean after I do my show and I need
to just stick around. Okay, just hang out and talk right. Yeah,
but you do that for four hours a day, but
make sure you do it right right. The last thing
I want to do when I leave here is talk Sean.
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Sean's good for morale? Yea, not mine?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Okay, that's gonna say maybe everybody else? Is what you
need me to be a party favor here?
Speaker 9 (31:13):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (31:14):
What it is good for?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Jumping out of a cake next? Yeah, what's good for
mine when I leave here is that I get to
go on air. I mean I get to go to
the golf course and and custom I talk to myself.
The problem is I answer myself too. That's what you know.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
You got a problem.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, talking to yourself one thing. But when I start
giving answer back to myself, yeah, we got an issue.
Self diagnosis sometimes is not the way that golf course
makes me said, I need a psychologist every time I
leave that.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
All right, let's get positive because you know what, this guy,
he gives us the reason to be positive.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
We'll talk about him next. Sean Salisbury Show.
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Speaker 6 (32:23):
Astros losing in ten innings last night, four to three
to the Blue Jays. You give up two in the ninth,
one in the tenth to lose that one. Even more
bad news O, the Mariners and Rangers both went again.
So that means Seattle a single solitary game behind you
and the Rangers two and a half back.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
We just don't lose.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
What can we say? Uh?
Speaker 6 (32:44):
Basketball, gonna have two ESPN Big Monday games coming up
in February. One of them gonna be at Iowa State,
the other one at Kansas. Someone three two, one, two,
five seven ninety is the number to get in, Shawn,
I think we got to the bottom of it.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
We don't even need Tom from engineering.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Hey, what seems to be the.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
But we don't need him.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
We got to the bottom of it. Well, well, I mean,
do you believe it? I mean maybe maybe. I mean
I think we will need Tom with his his search
light that he has to callers.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
We lost him because of this. The tech went out.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Hold, well, you know what, here's the thing. I got
to the bottom of it. You know what I think
it is making fun of sales. I think somebody pulled
the brakes. Did you make fun of sales or just
having some fun at their expense? Fun at their expense?
Speaker 5 (33:26):
But I don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Look, you can have fun at someone's expense, you just
don't know if they're gonna take it that way.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I was all in good fun by you. Sure everybody
will get over. I'm just I'm just saying, take your
scholarship away. I mean, you know, hey, look, maybe maybe
maybe somebody, as I said, pulled.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
The brake, or you know, they're in there grinding for you.
The parking break is still on. You know how you
got that smell that emanates when you're driving around the
parking brake on.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I mean, I've never done.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Vehicle doesn't move what I have the parking break on.
Neither does mine, but parking breaks off.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Yeah, yeah, quit driving because you're gonna grind down your
breaks if you keep driving.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
So but anyway, I think we're good now.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
But like I said, you want to join us seven
one three, two, one two five seven ninety positive positive.
I'm ready to be positive because this guy makes me
be positive. AJ blue Ball. Now, we talked about Hunter
Brown on Saturday Night. How much of a gamer he was.
I mean, you get the story comes out of the
fifth inning, ninety eight pitches. You think, all right, that's it.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
He's done.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
We're gonna have to ask the bullpen again, goes down
the stairs, and before Espada or Josh Miller can even
get to him, he says, I'm going back out there. No, like,
I'm not asking to go back out there. I'm telling
you I'm going back out there. AJ blue Ball is
that same type of guy. Last four outings for him,
eight innings scoreless. This season, and this month he has
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pitched in seven innings, has not given up a single
earned run. As Era down the two point five to seven.
They've been doing the yo yo with him, I said
last night, and I'll repeat it again right now, no
more yo yoing.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
He's here, he's ready.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
You want to have any chance of seeing this thing
through and getting to the postseason, because let's be honest here,
that's probably the win of all wins right now, is
just getting into the postseason with what's happened to you
this season. He's going to be a massive part if
you are able to do that. He's got a good
future here too. He really does.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I think. I think when they talk about parlay it out,
he's shown some Uh well, he's got the grit that
Dana Brown talks about, right, grit and the grind. Yeah,
he really does. And oh, I don't think there's any
question he's here for the duration this year. Correct. You
have to have him right and he's in effective and
he can give you a long, long relief. You don't
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have to pigeonhole into just long relief and give you
an inning and give you three innings, give you five innings.
You guy's been. The guy's incredibly versatile, and he's really
good for this team at a time they're going to
desperately need.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Him and have well.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
I mean, and you've desperately needed long a long relief,
high leverage guys. They're late in games. You really have
needed those guys. I mean, it's got to make you
wonder here at a certain point. I didn't hear what
Joe spot has said last night. I was half asleep
when he was talking. But I mean, can you continue
with the way things have gone his last four outings
(36:16):
to count on Brian and Bray you. I'm not saying
put aj blue Ball in that spot, but what about
a guy like Brian King the way he's been pitching.
I mean, some people had said Craig Kimberl. I don't
think he's made for that spot anymore. But Kimberl can
be a guy that throws for you in the seventh inning.
You need somebody to be able to step in and
help you out, especially with Caleb b orr out, and
I think he can do it.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Kimball.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Kim Berle has had great history there, but that may
not be his role anymore. You know, I don't know
if that's his role. Now we know what Brian A
Bray you does bring to the table. But I will
tell you this that by making the change, now, are
you in danger of even though you'd get him back
into a comfort level, aren't we honestly.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
And risk of?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Why am I getting demoted even though that's a normal Well,
I disagree. No, he may be more successful in the
eighth But by telling him at this stage, amen, we're
going to move you back to the eighth inning because
that's your strength, aren't you deep down if you're him
saying I must not have done a good job. Well,
he's clearly not comfortable in the spot that he said.
That's not my point and that's not my point comfortable. Okay,
(37:19):
somebody comes here and says, we're putting you on that
we loved you on overnights because you're you know it's
good and we need you. You do it because it's
your job. But aren't you going to say, hmmm, interesting,
I must not have been doing when you have been right?
And his history says great, you're right. Success, but it
doesn't matter, it doesn't matter the psych and I don't
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know how he'd respond. I know the eighth inning he's
owned it for the better part of what will we
go on in three years? Up and down a little bit,
but has been really consistent for the most part. What
in the world, even, I mean, what does every reliever
really want to be if they're not a starter? Oh,
if you're not a starter, you want to be the closer.
So of course he wants that role. Now, hater is
(38:03):
going to have that role when he's back and healthy
and ready to go. But aren't you coming to him
and saying, oh, you're going to put somebody in there
who's never done the role and move me back the
of course you're the success You're saying, I'm more successful there.
But it's like telling a guy who hits two in
the order that he's had most of his successor. But
now he's reeling and you put him back where he's
really successful, in an eight hole. Doesn't he feel like
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that's a demotion if he's been hitting some even though
he knows he's better in the eight hole. Of course,
So I don't know how guys. I've seen it affect
guys in a negative way, and some respond that's up
to the individual. But right now, you don't would we
say if what did we say and what did I
say on this show when Hater went out?
Speaker 6 (38:44):
If you got three, you ain't got one. Remember what
Alec Baldwin said in Glengarry Glenn Ross. You want to
work here close, Well, I'm sorry, I don't care about
your feelings.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Get the job.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I'm not saying I care either. A matter of fact,
I've been stated for years I'm not in the feel
good business at this stage. I'm in the we got
to win and whatever it takes to winter.
Speaker 6 (39:07):
Stop giving up a barreled up single, stop hanging a slider.
To Isaiah Connor fuleffa's.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
How you and I think pro sports coaches managers in
sports are a little more concerned about the fragility of
a player. Then you know what I need a little
bit more CJ Stroud in that locker, Well, guess what.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
C J.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Stroud plays football and he doesn't pitch. So I don't
know how you'd respond. Maybe a bradd love going back there,
But my gut tells me that anytime somebody tells you're
moving back, even though that is your normal role, you
feel like now, when when a bread I mean when
Hater gets back. Of course he can understand that, because
that's why you're paying the other guy. But right now,
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don't you think he thinks he's the best man to
close out games for you?
Speaker 5 (39:50):
That's usually the guys that get paid.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
To his production's not showing that he feels that way. Unfortunately,
that's been obvious.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
The question is do they have I think they'll put
matchups in situations in but I'm not sure they're and
maybe they're not worried about his that they'd say he'll
handle either one. But I heard the same thing about
Presley going from nine to seven, No, nine to eight,
wasn't it you went to braid he was seven, right?
I heard that, And as much as I love Ryan Presley,
(40:17):
it wasn't the same. It just wasn't mentality wise, And
right now as a closer of Bray, you is not
as dominant as he was as an eighth thing guy.
In fairness, Presley showed you that in twenty three, though
I'm not talking about twenty three, I'm talking about this
last year. But okay, so then he showed you what
in twenty three that he was starting to lack the
consistency and the effectiveness that he had. But when it
was nutcut and time in the postseason he showed up. No,
(40:40):
I don't disagree with that. So the bottom line he
gets down, I'm not talking about production is this had
nothing to do with production. We know the reason we're
talking about it is because of lack of production, But
not you, not me, have any idea how he would
respond if they moved him back and said we're going
to put Brian King there. The normal reaction would be, Okay,
I'm better in the eighth inning. But am I getting demoted?
(41:02):
Are you demoted? If you go from the two to
the eight hole? What are they telling you? We just
feel like you're better off in the eight hole. That's
a nice way of saying you haven't done what we
need you to do in the two hole.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Well, but look at what Yiner has done since he's
gotten demoted to the bottom of the order.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
He's actually been productive. Okay, And is Yiner Brian a
Brayew Are they different? Possibly? Probably definitely, only think press.
That's that's why I said it in the first place.
I don't I said I don't hies respond, But for
you to think that every guy's going to respond the same,
regardless of where they're successful is not true. If you
tell me Sean you're a great backup, or you're a
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great sixth man. But man, you started, you averaged twenty
four points a game. But we got a guy back
and you've been dominant. We're five and zero and you're
averaging you're you're averaging a triple double. We're going to
move you back to the sixth man. But your average
a triple double is our ours, our two. What do
you think that guy's thinking? I belong as a starter.
They all want to start. But how he responds, so,
(41:58):
I don't know how he'd respond. I know, damn well
this if you ask him today, are you a closer?
Guess what he's going to tell you now? If you're
ass he's going to tell you yes, of course he is.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Well I'm not seeing it unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Well, and hence the conversation. Why we're talking about do
you move him and try somebody else? I suggest that
they probably have to do it by committee and matchups,
because right now it's a it's not a sure thing.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
He's going to get him out. Mister wonderful says it best.
Kevin O'Leary. Money doesn't care about your feelings, doesn't care
about your tears.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yep. Guess what managers and sometimes front offices do well.
Speaker 6 (42:37):
Then maybe Kevin O'Leary needs to work in this front office. Hey,
real quick here before we get to the stake out.
Jack on the southwest side, Good morning Jack, Hey.
Speaker 7 (42:44):
Good morning guys.
Speaker 11 (42:45):
Great show. Used to be on the other talk show.
You're the best talk show in town. Fars no comparison appreciated. Anyway,
you guys are great.
Speaker 7 (42:54):
All toov with all his great attributes.
Speaker 12 (42:57):
I am so sick of watching this uh be an idiot.
Speaker 7 (43:01):
On the base pass? Why would you put him.
Speaker 11 (43:04):
On second base?
Speaker 1 (43:06):
You know the most Well, he was the final out
of the I'm gonna stop you right there. He was
the final out of the ninth inning, so he had
to be on second Oh he did? Okay, then I
take it back. I thought that was a manager's choice.
Speaker 11 (43:17):
Okay, never never mind, But I still can't stand to
watch you. When he gets on a base pass, I said,
oh god, uh, here here comes here comes a bonehead,
uh base running deal. And I don't understand why he's
not coachable about that. But anyway, that's all about great show. Guys,
appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, Jack, if there's one thing that you say, if
we are judging Hall of Famers by his base running,
he would not be a Hall of Famer. I hate
to say it. That's that's a glaring weakness for him.
Yet I know we smile when we say it, because
he said, I imagine if he was an average player
that ran the bases like he does, he wouldn't be
in the league.
Speaker 5 (43:53):
Think he wouldn't. You're like, I guess he's entitled to
have a weakness.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
That's so. Here's here's what happened.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
You know, when the Lord talked to Jose l Twov,
he said, hey, Jose, sit down for a second. Okay,
it's like little infant Jose, all right, you're gonna be
five ft three. Okay, that's the You're gonna be five
ft three. It's just how it is. But you're going
to have out scanning bat, the ball skills. You're gonna
be a Hall of Famer with the bat. You're gonna
be a Hall of Fame player. Here's the other downside.
(44:24):
You're gonna be really bad at base running. And you
handle that. I absolutely can. I think I think he's good.
So that at him. Sure, dear Lord, that sounds good
to be. How bad a base run? Aroun, I'm gonna be,
you have no idea. So I will watch both because
I stream the games, and so I'll watch at bat
when it gets close, just to see, all right, do
(44:45):
I need to be prepared for this or that? And
then when I saw in play outs and ground ball
the second base al two ve thrown out at third
from the first baseman, I said, oh my god, I've
got to see how this went. And then I saw
it and met every expectation. Nothing better than across the
diamond first baseman throwing you out. The only other time
(45:06):
I think I had I had seen that was in
the four World Series, David Ortiz of all people playing
first base, and he was able to cut off a
ball and threw a guy out at third.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
And I was in the National League ballpark. Was it
was in Saint Louis?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (45:19):
So the d H was away.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Remember those times I do some some do all right, criticism, criticism,
how do we handle it? And who's the guy that's
supposed to make you happy?
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Was it blue ball?
Speaker 7 (45:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Okay, that was your Okay, yeah, blue ball makes me happy.
We're a number sixty nine. You could argue that blue
ball sometimes does it? See what I'm saying, See what
I did there? Yeah, it's say you know, do you
have the blue ball? Then? Oh yeah? He always makes
you happy?
Speaker 7 (45:46):
Right?
Speaker 13 (45:46):
No?
Speaker 5 (45:46):
No, no, no, no, where are you going with this?
Speaker 7 (45:50):
On you?
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I shouldn't have to once you lay it out for
the class, Why don't you tell us? I think I
think that you probably have a pretty good idea when
you put those, when you put the name the inference, Yeah,
you're inferring just when you say, oh, they really make
you happy? No, those don't actually make you happy? He
does blue ball? Yeah, yeah that day, Right, it's something else.
Speaker 8 (46:10):
C A U g H.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you, Doug.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
And he belongs pitching as often as we can have
him on the right.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Does he stays as as the saying goes?
Speaker 7 (46:20):
All right?
Speaker 6 (46:21):
But criticism how you handle it? Well, this guy, he
had a way of handling it. We'll discuss here. It
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seven ninety Stros losing extras last night four three to
Blue Jays in Toronto. Need to need to win these
next two games for me to be correct on my prediction.
See that was positive, Dan, I want to stay positive.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
What's your prediction? I said two out of three? Oh,
two out of three? I mean to win the series. Yeah,
you've played well against the Blue Jays. Take two out
of three, that's right. Yeah? Was it Hollan eats who
out of three? Eight bad? That's the cut? You know
the cut?
Speaker 7 (47:25):
Yeah? It was?
Speaker 6 (47:26):
It was who was Darryl get swept? It was all, Well,
if they get swept, then Disdaine's gonna.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Be call it? Are you calling it a season? If
they get swept? Are you willing to make that prediction?
You wait till You're.
Speaker 6 (47:38):
Gonna wait till next week. I'm gonna wait till next week. Yeah,
next next week, I'm willing. I'm willing to have part
two of the Seattle Prediction. Yeah for sure. But Dana
Brown gonna join us at nine thirty all right criticism.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Look me and you, we we get it. In this business.
Speaker 6 (47:55):
When you're in this business or any business where I mean,
I guess you have some sort of profile, You're gonna
have people who are going to despise you. It's despite
your best efforts. It's going to happen. Seemingly throughout his career,
Joe Buck has worn this and it cracks me up
now to how people will still, oh, well, you know
his dad brother, His dad hadn't been alive for almost
(48:19):
thirty years, and he's been in the.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
Business that long. What he got in about ninety five,
I think so.
Speaker 6 (48:25):
He was on a podcast with Kevin Fishbain, who I
guess is a reporter that covers the Chicago Bears, and
fish Main referenced an article by Dan Caesar, who used
to be with the Saint Louis Post Dispatch and before
Buck even started calling games full time. In the article,
Caesar was critical of the younger Buck being quote force
fed on Saint Louis Cardinals fans and attributed it to nepotism,
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which at the time, sure, I kind of get it,
and Buck responded, I cried, I was still living with
my mom and dad while I was waiting for an
apartment that I was trying to move into, and I
remember reading that and crying, that's how immature I was.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
But it was devastating to read that. I gotta tell you, man.
Like the more podcasts and just like the more away
from the mic Joe Buck is like he just he
sounds like he's a really self effacing, like really good
guy like that, like he understands it, he hears it,
like I think now, like he kind of leans into it.
Like I remember once he went to the Barstool headquarters
(49:24):
and somebody said, why do you hate my team? And
he goes, well, if it's you asking, I definitely hate
your team. Like he was just leaning into it and
having fun. He's like, no, I don't hate anyone's team.
I'm calling the games. That's all I'm doing. Listen. I've
known him for a long time and friends with him
for long, been to his tournament in Saint Louis. His
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wife's say, very good friend of mine who I've known forever.
Miche Michelle is one of the great people. Both of
that's a great couple, great family. Anytime somebody who's got
a famous father gets into the business, I'm sure Teks
had to go through this. Sure because of his famous father,
Harry cause one of the great voices we've ever heard.
One of my good buddies, Chip Carrey, the same deal.
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It's gonna happen. And Chip's been doing this now for
almost forty years. And you think it's tough enough to
follow a guy, now follow the guy that is the guy.
And you're the son of the guy. And Joe Buck
is the son of one of the great led When
you mentioned Vince Cully, Ernie Harwell, Jack Buck, those names
our guy and Harry Carey, those are the guys right
(50:30):
outside of Mexican Food product. We got Mark, we got
people here. The legends. The key anytime you're broadcasting the
game and you have to say something negative about a team,
that fan base automatically thinks you hate their team. I
can tell you this. And Joe and I have had
conversations about this on the air. We talked about it,
(50:50):
and he's now gotten the point. He just is sarcastic
about I say, yeah, of course, I mean about any
of it, because how do you fight that. You can
either fight it and argue back or just like yeah,
just join in and say yeah.
Speaker 6 (51:01):
What what well I got Monday Night Football because Dan
Eigers said, well, you know, Jack was your father, so
of course we're going to give you the job.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
He is becoming. He's very he's he loves to laugh
and he's got a lot of humor. He has got it.
Speaker 7 (51:15):
He is.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
He can't be this good and if he was still
at Fox, he'd still be the number one baseball guy
doing number one baseball and number one football guy for
Fox easily and for a long time. That's a touch.
That's nance stuff, right. So he is awesome at his job.
He's had to work probably twice as hard because people
are always comparing him to his pops. And I can
(51:37):
tell you say he's a good guy. Joe Buck is
a phenomenal human being. He does not hate the Astros.
He doesn't hate the Red Sox. There may be individuals
over the course of time, like we all do, that
you've had stuff that you you respect and enjoy their game,
and I know you don't like them all, just like
I'm sure people don't all like broadcasters. But Joe's been
(51:58):
nothing but fair. Joe does not gone, as far as
I've known him, going to games saying you know, I
think I'm gonna rip the Houston Astros or rip the
Los Angeles Dodgers, well, because it's just good to do.
As he's not the analyst either, he's not he's not
doing much opinion. He is teeing it up, doing the
things that play by play guys do, and and also
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and then back in his teammate or when he gives
it down to sends it down to the dugout and
comes back up validating what they say, because that's your teammate,
the analyst. I I don't know how many played by now.
If you're the homer, like the local broadcast team, of
course you're rooting for your team. That's why you're in
the broadcast booth, and you're good at him right and right,
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and you're like, oh, we're gonna win this one. Of
course throws win nothing. But when it comes to the
national stuff, it's absurd, whether it's here or anywhere else
a fan base to think that Joe Buck or Jim
Nantz or anybody else dislikes your team by when he's
calling a game. The reason they've been able to sustain
greatness for this long is because they don't play favorites
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in their broadcast. In the conversation Joe Buck, I'll stand
on the hill for Joe Buck. Joe Buck's a good
human being, great family, and a phenomenal broadcaster.
Speaker 6 (53:14):
I feel what he's saying, not the nepotism side, because
nobody in my family had ever been in this business.
But I feel what he said about the criticism because
I was the same way when I first got into
this business. It wrecked me, it killed me. I tried
to tell myself it didn't matter. But now, for the
most part, I don't see it. Jason or call her. Earlier,
he pointed out.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
Somebody coming after me once and I said, Jason, I
gotta be honest with you, man, I didn't even see it. Well,
why would you care?
Speaker 7 (53:38):
Well?
Speaker 6 (53:38):
And that's the thing, too, is that it's gotten to
the point where even if I if I see it
and I read.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
It, I'm just like, well, if you're concerned about criticism,
probably wrong business, because not everybody's gonna love your team.
Speaker 5 (53:50):
If I'm concerned about criticism, I'm not doing my job.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Number Two is you prepare hard. You know, that's what
our job is, to pre pare art and give it
an opinion. That's why dude, that's why you get hired
and to do your We all do and it's not
going to settle that well with everybody. But I also
don't hate somebody who has a different opinion. That's what
some just because a guy may completely disagree and say,
you know, the Astros are in struggling right now, and
I believe this, that's not a hate. That's just trying
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to do your job. And as a fan, you know,
I've been going back and forth hating opinion. I think
we all would rather have somebody tell us how great
we are than not. But you know, learn a lot
if everybody tells you a weird way.
Speaker 6 (54:26):
Now, I almost appreciate the criticism more than I appreciate
you should.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
Right, because plus there's times when they criticize and their
spot on it's like, you know what, you're right, I
need to and it's okay. That's why we give that.
We got smart fans and they're all over. But the
way I've looked at it is why in the world
am I worried about your criticism If I wouldn't take
your suggestion on something, buddy, I mean, why do I care? Honestly?
(54:52):
With the guy sitting in Cincinnati right now. Thinks that
I'll never meet that goes on Twitter and disagrees with
a take. That's okay, because I may disagree with his.
I just my whole thing is when they start to
get personal and get into, you know, talking about your family.
So I've never understood it, but I think it probably
when they first get in, if you're not prepared for it,
probably bobs because you think everybody's gonna like you. The
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best broadcasters I know, half of them don't get the
half of them are disliked because you're not going to
be right, no matter if it's like an umpire, You're
not going to be right no matter what decision you make.
So I don't give people that kind of joy to
think that they got something up on me. Early on,
you're like, man it. But when I broke in, we
didn't have social media, so I learned to not care.
Speaker 7 (55:33):
Then.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
I care about their opinion, but when it comes to
their disagreement with me on a topic, as long as
there it's a fair disagreement, I don't have problem with it.
Speaker 6 (55:41):
I actually learned from it. The thing that flipped it
for me was I was down into dumps. It wasn't
about criticism, but it was just about like being the
butt of the joke on the show. And the guy
that I was working with at the time said, man, look,
I know you're probably looking for me to say, oh,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (55:55):
You know we won't do that to you.
Speaker 6 (55:56):
He just fought out said he goes, look, man, yeah,
I'm sorry that you feel that way, but honestly, if
your feelings are hurt by that, then you're probably in
the wrong business.
Speaker 1 (56:05):
Well, you just got done saying you don't care about
Brian Abrady's feelings as a player, because if he's struggled,
oh well fix it. Sure, And why in the world
should you should you care about somebody's opinion of you
when they say I disagree, Man, you need to fix
that and change your opinion.
Speaker 5 (56:21):
It's an honest opinion.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
I mean in the fact that you're transparent about we've
all been there, sure, But the quicker you can get
over it and say if you were if you're giving
a BS opinion, then you'd be concerned about because they
know they can see right through it if you're given
an honest opinion. Hence what it's called an opinion, like
for the.
Speaker 6 (56:36):
Ap pole is that one. I'm not going to get
too much into my process. We'll get into that later.
But like the whole I always love that when people
like they're they're pressed on their opinion and then they say, well,
I'm not really going to get into this.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
Well, that's the whole reason I'm having you on is
to get into it.
Speaker 6 (56:54):
And you put yourself out there and then you do
a subsequent video trying to back yourself, and then you're
not back yourself.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
What can I do? You just you just compounded the
problem for you. Just put your poll out and move on.
Disagreements can be a great thing, learning constructive criticism and anything,
and maybe be in a play having played and you're
getting criticized and constructive christim all the time. As a player.
It prepared me better for the business to know that Listen, man,
I ain't gonna make a hundred million people or whatever.
Speaker 7 (57:22):
Many.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
I know that's something that you listen. But you know,
when you're doing national and local, it's like you have
a strong opinion. I would rather disagree with somebody's strong
opinion than see right through somebody say you don't even
believe that even though I'm on your side, I know
your bs and me.
Speaker 5 (57:34):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (57:35):
If somebody ever has a problem and it's with a
team player, whoever it is, and they confront me about it,
I ask them, do you feel like I made it personal?
And if they answer no, then I say, then what
are we talking about? Like, my job is to talk
about your performance. If I make it personal and I
levy a personal attack against you, then I get it.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
Well if they if they disagree with and if that's
the case, I'm sorry. If they say that they're changing
fat fat and you don't apology. If you're not making
it personal, you don't know anybody in apology. Now they
may say no your criticism. I can hit a high fastball, okay,
But if they can't, good, well, then let's I've always
said this. If I'm criticized, I said, I'll be happy
to watch the tape and you explain to me what
I did. Miss I don't think I did, But just
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watch it with me. And if I'm wrong, dude, I'll
stand up and shy in the fact, say got me,
and it's happened before. But I'm not going to say
something I don't believe strongly in. Man If I otherwise,
I'll just shut up and we want to let somebody
else say it. Yeah, plenty of criticism. It doesn't bother me.
It's sometimes shot up appalling, but it's amazing how you
let people creep into your life in this business. You
got plenty of people that you never meet and you
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should not care because they're just somebody sitting at home
watching the same game as you. Not that they don't know,
but their opinion just may see it from a different
angle and that can be a good thing in a kaleidoscope,
you know.
Speaker 5 (58:48):
Yep, for sure.
Speaker 6 (58:50):
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So we continue here for the Seawan Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (59:05):
You know, huge game there in Houston too.
Speaker 6 (59:07):
Yeah, I almost feel like you know that with uh
Clay Walker being the go to national anthem for a
big game here, I feel like Tody Johnson is starting
to kind of get in on that.
Speaker 1 (59:18):
It's okay, Parker mccollumn a little bit too. Both very
good and that's a that's a cool thing. And back
to uh. Zach Brown makes a lot of money, I'm not.
She may be worth far more.
Speaker 6 (59:31):
No, no, no, like yeah, yeah she she pays for
a lot more than he does, and he can pay
for you know, but no, she she's picking up the tab.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
And I would imagine she Well, whether she is or isn't,
I'm sure he's full gentleman. But whether she is or isn't,
she can and.
Speaker 6 (59:44):
She's still in a lot of brooches a ton, yes, broches,
not even still a thing.
Speaker 1 (59:50):
Well, Ryan Clark's got one. If you want to know
his initials alls, you got to do is look at
his lapel and he'll tell you. Well, he would tell
you that's a lapel pen. Is there a difference, Well,
I mean one's one's.
Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
Like decorative and the other ones just you know, you
just stick something in the back and it's got a
logo on it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Well, one is like when you put an American flag
on your thing. What most people do? I get it
running for office when you put the lower third up there,
it says analyst Ryan Clark. And then he has a
diamond brooch or lapelpiin that says RC. I don't want
to dog him because you know it's his gig and
you can fashion it up any way you want it.
(01:00:32):
Thanks for letting us know. I mean, hey, it's cool.
I mean it looks good on him. Man, I'm gonna
look that up during the break. Does Kinder Scott sell Broaches?
I don't know. Maybe he's on the fast, maybe he's
on the on the order list.
Speaker 7 (01:00:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
You know, it looks nice. I just don't understand. I mean,
what's your name? Oh, no, one of those initials, right,
it's my name. It's like J. So it's like the
story I told you about JT the Brick. Yeah, guy,
JT the Brick. We identify you as Ryan Clark and
the RC is you're kind of diamond and crusted.
Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
We got it, we got it, we got it. Have
about it.
Speaker 7 (01:01:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
The Astros to talk about it because we're not in
the diamond business. So I say, yeah, yeah, if you know,
if you're in the business, can you talk if you're not.
If you're not in the jeweler, that's that's the non
jewelry business. And you talking.
Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
Uh, the Astros losing extras last night four to three,
and they are going to be back at tonight. Jason
Alexander on the mound and then Sexan's off today, but
they're going to get back to work tomorrow. Let's sweeze
in Jerome here before we get into the next segment. Jerome,
what's going on?
Speaker 13 (01:01:32):
Gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Good morning morning.
Speaker 13 (01:01:34):
I've been watching baseball since the sixth and I don't
understand what the astros is doing right now.
Speaker 7 (01:01:42):
You gotta you got a man that is.
Speaker 13 (01:01:45):
By two for twenty eight feedback and clean up. You're
running bases going from second to third? What is you
run and looking back for? What did you looking back for?
Speaker 7 (01:01:57):
Then we got you got.
Speaker 13 (01:01:59):
Players out just swinging at balls on the ground a
foot off the plate. Do the coaches talk to him
or show them the field or what what's going on?
I don't understand you. Last week or the last week
week before ass you had a man in the lineup
Batten one fifty five. He he shouldn't even be in
(01:02:23):
the major names Bat one fifty five then just said
that you didn't see no stuff like that. It was
hard for you to get in the lineup batt and
two party. I don't understand what the astros is doing.
Could y'all help me out on that? And and and
you got a man on second base you out of town.
(01:02:43):
Your first thing to do is bunt that man over
the third and give him two chances.
Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
To get in.
Speaker 13 (01:02:49):
We lost too many games just I mean just throwing
away game. Then you saving pitchers? What you saving pictures for?
This man coaching like he in April. This is not
we trying to win a Pennan man. You coaching like
this April.
Speaker 14 (01:03:06):
Man, come back and hit hit.
Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
Three, have three hits. You rest in your next date.
Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
I feel your frustration. Appreciate it, Jerome. I can tell
you this, Jerome, great point. You don't have to talk
to me about the load management thing because I drive
there should not be, Jordan. They should be in the
lineup every friggin day until the end. And I ain't
saving squat. They got the whole off season to rest.
I'm with you there. As far as back in the
days when Rod Carew in the group was playing two
(01:03:39):
forty kept you on the bench as a utility man.
Times have change, We've evolved.
Speaker 7 (01:03:43):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
And then finally, I have zero idea when the ball's
hit to the right side and you're on second base
and you're running, why you would be looking back, especially
if it's a ground ball. Well, I mean, especially if
you're already moving. You're going there with the express purpose.
So you're getting the third base, you're you're you're on
second base. The ball leaves the bat, you've already you've
(01:04:04):
already glanced at where it's going. It's on the ground,
he assumed. I don't, I don't know why you're looking
what to check if he's going to throw it, well,
whether he is or isn't. It's like when you tell
a kid that's running one hundred meters or the forty
yard dash, see it all the time. They pull up
at about thirty eight yards and finish at the finish
line instead of after it and wonder why their time. Man,
(01:04:26):
I thought it was a four to six five guy,
I was running four to eight. It's because you, you know,
you run as if it's a fifty yard sprint. In
this case, had down, dude, you know what, Pay attention
to the base coach. He'll tell you if the ball's
coming or not, and get you asked down. We can
we can do all we want, say all we want.
Hose Twov is a phenomenal player. Jose al Twove is
a subpart best base runner, and it's getting worse.
Speaker 6 (01:04:49):
He did the right thing. He had a bad read
and I mean himself. That's why Guerrero threw the ball.
He saw how he was running the third base and
he said I can get him, and he did. But
I mean, honestly, right there, I mean, first move. As
soon as that ball comes off the bat, you see
it's on the ground, hall ass, hall ass.
Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
I don't know why the alls it does by looking
back is slow you down, because I guarantee you he
hauls ass right there.
Speaker 6 (01:05:13):
By the time the ball gets to him, he's more
than halfway there, and Guerrero realizes, all right, I can't
get him.
Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
I'll just go get the out at first. Well, at
least you make him hesitate on do I get it?
Speaker 7 (01:05:22):
Do I get it?
Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Let me go step on the bag.
Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
Well, you never go.
Speaker 6 (01:05:25):
Broke taking a profit, and you never go wrong hustling.
So both of those lessons and how we apply I
don't question now to Bay's effort. I don't ever question
his effort on the base pass. I question his decision making.
He is a poor base running decision maker.
Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
He assumed.
Speaker 7 (01:05:39):
He just is.
Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
That's what it was.
Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
And it's okay to criticize the guy who quite frankly,
anybody who tells me it's a strength has not watched
him the last well most of his career. Well, you
can steal a base for you, but he gets himself
in situations where he makes some poor decisions on hits
to the alley, into the gap and all the other things.
It's just he's he's it's a rough gopher him. This
it is when he's on the basis, this it is.
Speaker 6 (01:06:02):
Bill Abele see you guys will work he in seven
one three two one two five seven ninety. Just how
bad has it been for young tuov? Well, I'll tell
you Sewn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues, Bill, good morning, Hey.
Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
Good morning guys.
Speaker 7 (01:06:22):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (01:06:22):
The conversation about broadcasters and nepotism and kids of broadcasters
things like that made me think, Sean, did you ever
work with Jeremy Shaff at ESPN?
Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
I did?
Speaker 9 (01:06:34):
Okay, So shaf got busted because he wasn't Dick Shapp,
whose father was a tremendous historic sportswriter in this country.
Marty Brenneman's son Tom Tom Brenneman got the same backlash
when he came through the ranks, whether it was TV
or radio. It just seems if you're if you're the
father or the mother, and you are very good at
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what you do, the expectation of the sun is so
astronomically high. The bar said, sohi, no matter what they do,
people aren't gonna like them. They're just not for whatever reason,
you're not going to break. So I never understood the
Joe buck backlash. I never have. Is he different from
other guys? Yeah, but all broadcasters are supposed to be different.
(01:07:18):
That's the problem with a lot of what I think
is on air broadcasting today is now we're in a
generation where he turned the sound down or turn the video,
you know, the picture off. You can't tell some of
these broadcasters who they are. They all kind of sound
so vanilla, whether it's radio for baseball or football, and
a lot of the new TV guys are very bland,
(01:07:40):
vanilla sounding guys. But I felt I felt bet Jeremy
Schaff got roasted by Bob Knight an interview you can
find it on YouTube where where he did Bob Knight?
Of course he was a bag. Anyways, we knew that
if he didn't like a question, he was getting asked
he'd lets you know, and he said back and had
a question that he didn't want to answer. It didn't
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like and basically told Jeremy shef you got a long way.
Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
To go to be your father.
Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
He didn't basically straight up, he straight up said that.
Speaker 9 (01:08:10):
Flat out. But you know, social media is not social,
nor is it media. I think we've established that long
time ago, and it can be brutal, especially on on broadcasters.
And I just never understood why Joe Buck gets so
much vitriol. I'm lost on that, I really am.
Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Yeah, appreciate it, Bill, I mean with Joe Buck, that's
because he's successful.
Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
Well, it's the way it works.
Speaker 6 (01:08:38):
But it's also too, I mean to his point about
social media, it's such an echo chamber, and when you
go against said echo chamber, well then the pitchforks and
the flames start coming after you. So it's just easier
to be with the crowd. I think it's popular to
say that. I think it's just like people who, hey,
you bring up nickel Back. Oh, of course, I think
Nickelback sucks, you know like that that that's that's what
(01:08:58):
it is. And you know, hey, you bring up the
Rolling Stones, Oh, man, I love the Rolling Stones like
it's just it's an easy thing to be able to.
Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
Go along with and there's no pushback.
Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Everybody gets a voice. That doesn't mean I have to
listen to them all or pay attention to them for
the most part. Now I love At the other end
of the spectrum, somebody started writting, I'm not at any
point in time allowing one ounce of disagreement or idiot
that too. I'm only look if there's constructive I helped
move forward and be better all for it. Otherwise, thank
(01:09:30):
you for your suggestion and talk to you next time.
That's uh. I don't. I don't care about their criticism.
Speaker 5 (01:09:37):
I just don't.
Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
With that Bobby Knight interview, I remember it like it
was yesterday because Shap started to interrupt them a little
bit and Bobby Knight let me finish damn it.
Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Yeah, that's uh. And that's not the guy to interrupt.
So but Bill's right. The victory all for Joe Buck,
and it's a it's the sensitivityfan. Joe Buck's not out
to get your your fan base, any fan just here, anywhere.
He's just not and that's a fact. Well, but if
you ask him, he'll tell you he is, Yeah, sarcastically. Yeah,
that guy's been there's a reason why he's got the.
Speaker 5 (01:10:09):
Number one job.
Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
He's gonna be here Monday night, is he not? They
play Monday night here, Yeah, he'll He and Eateman will
be doing a game.
Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
Okay, there we go. Good team.
Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
Might might have to Oh I'm massive fan at least Assaulters.
The whole crew do a great job.
Speaker 7 (01:10:23):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
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Let's let's share it with you.
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Four three to the Blue Jays, Mariners and Rangers both
continue to win Seattle. Now just to game back of
the Strows. The Rangers, well, they're only two and a
half back. Texan's off today. Gonna get back on the
practice field tomorrow to get ready for the Tampa Bay
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seven ninety is the number to get in Sean jose
(01:13:53):
Al Tuvey. And last night does get a hit. That
was nice to see. You love seeing that he does
get on by. But here's the problem. In the month
of September, he now has thirty three at bats, he
is hitting one twenty one with an on base percentage
of two sixteen. He has a homer and four RBI
in that timeframe, and he does have four walks. He
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has struck out seven times two And I know that
people are saying, ah man, move him out of the
three hole, move him out of the three hole. Well,
they do that last night and Carlos Korea able to
come through with a two run homer there in the
first inning, so that was nice.
Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
You love to see that.
Speaker 6 (01:14:29):
But with Al two Vey, I mean, if they're gonna
be calls for don't play them, then save your call
because Joe spot is not gonna listen. Nobody's gonna listen.
This team wins when Jose Al two Ve hits.
Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
We want to play in place of him. Okay, I
heard somebody last night. I heard somebody last night say
we Ramonirias on a daily basis. So at this stage,
you're just gonna I understand you're not in the you know,
we're not worried about people's feelings. Do you really think
that al twove is not now he's not hitting like it,
But do you really trust keep on the bench would
be better for this team.
Speaker 6 (01:15:02):
You could be like to the tenth inning last night
with Ross who said that the Astros are trying to
do this so they can run Joe a Spot out.
He called it a snow job, which is an actual
couple of words put together.
Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
And it's so the Astros are doing this on purpose,
That's what he said. That's why you don't give people
a voice on social media.
Speaker 6 (01:15:24):
Oh it wasn't social media. It was right here and
through his microphone, over the phone.
Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Okay, the tenth inning show, pregame, post game, any game.
That's why you shake your head and say, you can't
be serious. You they're colluding to make sure that they
do this. So Joe a spot it gets fired. That
is that is that the fact, like all is it
supposed to actually soak that in?
Speaker 14 (01:15:48):
Is?
Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Yep, that sounds like a great baseball take.
Speaker 6 (01:15:51):
So it's it's kind of the NFL version of tanking,
tank for tua, suck for luck. That's that's what it is,
snow jobs to get Joe out.
Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Yeah. Well, the difference is the Astros aren't in last
place there in first, so they're not sucking for anybody.
They're just not playing good baseball and haven't been consistent
for a long time. So at the plate it's been
all year long, it's been it's been a chore for them.
And I I to me, it's Joe al twoves I
did you call him? Jose is not going to be
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out of the lineup. He is going to play.
Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
He may get a day of rest, but he's going
to play all the time.
Speaker 6 (01:16:28):
So it's a nown North American informal. I believe Mary
and Webster a deception or concealment of one's real motive
in an attempt to flatter or persuade used in a sentence,
we need to do a snow job on him.
Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Yeah, they're not snow job in anybody. And if you're
Joe a Spota, you are counting on the fact that
Jose is going to get just as hot as he
has been cold here somewhere in the last fifteen to
twenty game.
Speaker 5 (01:16:55):
But if it's Joe, he's going to say, Hosey Jose
al two. Yeah, let's get Jose going. I love Hosey.
Speaker 7 (01:17:02):
He is.
Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
He is struggling mightily right now.
Speaker 7 (01:17:06):
He is.
Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
And I mean I brought up the C. J.
Speaker 6 (01:17:09):
Stroud example earlier because I mean that was actually really
nice to hear after a Sunday's game. And you can
say that and it's going to punctuate a little bit
more after a loss, but like it is kind of
getting to the point where you would like to hear
somebody take some direct accountability in that clubhouse, for hey,
we've left too many guys on base. We've left too
(01:17:30):
many opportunities out there where we have a chance to
be able to help those guys out who have been
battling and grinding for us on the mound, and too
often we find ourselves in this situation. I mean, I
know that jose L Twovay spoke after last night's game.
I didn't hear everything he said, but I mean that
would be the nice thing to hear at this point.
Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
And like the reason I bring up C J.
Speaker 5 (01:17:49):
Stroud?
Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Did he call anybody out directly?
Speaker 15 (01:17:52):
Sean?
Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Did he do any of those things when he said
we did not practice very well? We did not, we
did not prepare very well this week? Did he do
any of that? No, he didn't, to my knowledge, he
didn't name anybody by name. But in truth, if you
say me as a corp us in our quarterback room
and our receiver and didn't have a good week of practice,
if they're offended by it, oh well, I mean if
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it's true, why be offended by say, you know, we
got to get back to work. And the great thing
about leadership, which is also it's not popular, and it's
I mean, you're not great. Leaders aren't popular because you're
gonna have to hurt some feelings along the way. But
when you do that, you're not worried about You're worried
more about what's gonna the effect going to have on
pushing us forward to get better. You're not worried about well, man,
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he's criticizing the room. Now, if you stood up there
and say the right guard sucked and he can't block anybody,
we got to do something about it, then you've embarrassed
the team out in public and you don't air that
dirty laundry. But when you put we in front of it,
it's just a fact. He ain't telling No, he's not
telling a lie. And anybody that has a problem with
it needs to get back to work and probably do
their job a little bit better because if they're not
practicing well and the quarterback sees it, then it's pretty blatant.
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Now some guy may say, I had a great week
of practice, but unfortunately we're not playing tennis and golf.
You relying on ten other cats and on offense. If
it's not just you speaking it and eleven other guys
on defense. So I don't like I said, we are
so soft and worry ooh, did he hurt somebody's feelings
every now and then, great leaders got to hurt somebody's
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feelings on their team, not airing them in public, but
in private saying because it, come to Jesus, sometimes is
what gets people going, or you find out what tests
them or what their limitations are and how they can
what they can and can't handle. But good leaders aren't
in the ass kissing business. They're in the show you
had to do It business.
Speaker 6 (01:19:39):
Humility is a tough lesson to learn, but it's the
damn good one to learn because, well, you feel that way.
Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
It sucks.
Speaker 6 (01:19:45):
Maybe they ain't, Gunnery Sergeant Hartman like maybe the hitters
are private pile with the unlocked foot locker.
Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
There's one thing that angers me more than anything in
the world. It is thievery. And if it wasn't for
people like you, we wouldn't have it. How many people?
What could cite that that you just said that quote?
It's one of my favorite parts private style. Holy Jesus,
what is this? What was his name again?
Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman?
Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Yeah, Sergeant Hartman, old school reference there, Yeah, I Arlie, Ermie.
You can't be you can't be you can't be sensitive
in sports. Well, leadership sometimes makes people sensitive, but they're
just gonna have to get over it. And right now,
it's not even just about leadership, it's about it's about production.
Speaker 6 (01:20:30):
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We watched that and she, god, no, it was a
girl I dated in the past, So that probably tells you.
You go, well, anyway, so we watched that movie and
she goes, God, this has gotten really depressing. I go,
of course, it's gotten depressing. They went to Vietnam, that's
what happened over there.
Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Yeah, the heat of a jungle and uncourteen circumstances. Yeah, yeah,
that's definitely wasn't exactly. They weren't there for a party.
Speaker 6 (01:20:55):
No, It's like even the show Mash was a was
a comedy, but it's the itself to lead in. The
show is called Suicide Is Painless.
Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Yeah, yep, one of the great all time shows too.
Speaker 16 (01:21:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:21:07):
I mean, you know, I guess you can find humor
in weird places sometimes. But Brian John work into the conversation.
We will get into some Texans too, because Damiko Ryans
did talk yesterday. So do you want to let you
hear a little bit of that and don't forget Dana
Brown going to join us nine thirty this morning. As
we continue here Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
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No, now you know.
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little Friday night college football for you if you fancy it.
So someone two five seven ninety the number to get
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in one of our regulars, Brian and Pareland.
Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
Brian, good morning, Hey, good morning guys.
Speaker 13 (01:23:11):
Dan.
Speaker 17 (01:23:12):
Happy belated birthday, actually share a.
Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Birthday, so sweet, Happy birthday to your mom.
Speaker 7 (01:23:17):
September third. Yeah, absolutely pretty awesome.
Speaker 9 (01:23:20):
Real quick.
Speaker 17 (01:23:21):
You had the caller call in last hour talking about
you know, guy, why is a guy bet in one
fifty five? And there's because it's all you have. You're
you're literally running a mass unit. You're you're basically Sugarland
is a small is basically a U a medical ward.
You're literally just shuffling guys back and forth because it's
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all you have left because you've had so many guys injured.
Speaker 8 (01:23:46):
See you having a run.
Speaker 17 (01:23:48):
Jacob Meltin out there, which his games has still been
great and he's probably saved you some runs in that
time frame. Brandon is hitting isn't worre at once for me,
But why is he out there?
Speaker 7 (01:23:59):
Because what other alternatives do you have at this point?
Speaker 17 (01:24:03):
You know, and people woun't Joe as Spotify er. These
are the same people that two months ago, after that
La Dodger series wanted him to be Manager of the
Year and all of that.
Speaker 7 (01:24:12):
I love Howstonians, I love Houston.
Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
But we have some of the dumbest and.
Speaker 17 (01:24:16):
Most uneducated sports fans I've ever seen. Like they're the
most fickle fans in the world. Like you don't understand
the eggs and flow of the game. You don't understand
the ebbs and flow of the season. You can't open
your eyes and go, you know, look at what we're
doing this with. We're holding this team together with duck
tape and bailing wire and somehow, even though it's getting
(01:24:38):
really really tight, there's still somehow.
Speaker 7 (01:24:40):
In first place.
Speaker 17 (01:24:41):
Any other team would be twenty games out of it
by now. It's from last night was frustrating as all
could be, because you go in with a two run lead,
you're expecting your closer to nail it down, and you
know it winds up getting away from you, especially with
that part of the lineup. But I mean, you just
wonder how much longer can.
Speaker 7 (01:25:01):
You sustain this? But you know, I remember and when
it comes.
Speaker 17 (01:25:04):
Down two Bay, everybody wanted to get him out of lineup.
I remember in the twenty seventeen World Series, everybody wanted
to know George Springer down in the playoffs. He was Scottland,
he was struggling, and what happened he would hit a
home run in six straight games or something like that. Now,
Grandy was a little bit younger, but these guys, when
they get hot, they will get hot. And you just
got to keep running them out there, maybe move them
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down to fifth or sixth or something like that to
where you take a little pressure off of them. But
Christian Walker and Blaze in the trail, I mean, every
time that guy comes up with bases loaded or runners
on second and third, I'm I'm expecting, oh, look, here
comes another week infield, pop up, here comes a strikeout,
you know, something like that. And it's a lot of
(01:25:47):
these guys and it's just frustrating because we've seen it
for so long, how good they were and how good
they were at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 7 (01:25:55):
But I'd be curious to know.
Speaker 17 (01:25:56):
I think a lot of this started, and it's just
that mentality when Eastak Paradus went down those clutch two
out hits.
Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
And just that mentality seemed to change.
Speaker 17 (01:26:08):
And I don't know why, but it seems like some
of these issues started when he went down. You kind
of felt that gut punch of your offensive guy going
down and already having your do on out and they
just haven't recovered from there. But I mean, you're hoping
to at least if you win one in Toronto, you
hold the season series, the tiebreaker against them, if something
(01:26:29):
works out and those games next week against Sexast and
Seattle are gonna be massive now. But Good Show has
always shown I know you'll hold out a data to
the fire.
Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
You always do.
Speaker 17 (01:26:41):
And yeah, I sent you that question this morning. I'd
love to know what their off season plan is for
taking a look at their medical team and return to
play and all that, because you hate to see that
happened with Garcia with what we went down last night.
Speaker 7 (01:26:53):
But Good Show is always guys, talk to you later.
Speaker 6 (01:26:56):
I appreciate it, Brian, appreciate the energy too. I mean,
we just we asked one thing, bring the juice. That's it,
dis Astros.
Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
I always ask when people say that, well, they're going
to get hot, and I think we're all counting on it,
But the question is how and when?
Speaker 6 (01:27:12):
Well, I mean, and it seemed like that you were
in position because for the most part, I will agree
on Joe Espada, it is a execution thing. It's not
about decisions that he's made. He puts guys in positions,
he expects them to go out there and do a job.
After that, it's out of his hands. But I mean,
I get back to the production you had Saturday night
from both Jiner and Christian Walker, which I had railed
(01:27:35):
against for the longest time, batting them back to back
for how they've been with runners in scoring position. But
then in that game you go four for ten combined
with five runs. Bat it in, and then you move
Christian Walker up in the lineup the next day and
you can talk matchups.
Speaker 5 (01:27:48):
He can do all of that.
Speaker 6 (01:27:48):
We covered that on Monday with Steve Sparks. I just
don't understand it, Like you finally found something that might
finally work for your team and then you say, well,
one game, you know he must be seeing it great,
so let's move him up to the five.
Speaker 5 (01:28:00):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
I've said it, and i'll say it. I'll say it
most of the good teams you've watched over the years
at least, and maybe it's changed. I don't know the
analytics on this. I just think there's a continuity that
goes with letting guys play through some stuff and letting
guys that are hot stay in the lineup. Now, if
a guy is abysmal, then you got to make those changes.
I get that, but I am a big I don't know.
(01:28:26):
I don't understand. I don't understand, not only at this
stage of the season, why lineup changes are always necessary.
I just don't, and I honestly it wears me out
when I hear anybody say, well, they want to get
the matchups all the time. You don't ask for matchups
with Jordan or Pinya. They're hitting all the time. So
(01:28:50):
I mean, I don't know. I feel like you want
to go to the ballparking one through six. You have
pretty good idea every day, and even then some when
they were at their best in the past, was now.
I know, with all the injuries, you got to that
part of get I'm just with the healthy players. I'm
just a big believer in there's a continuity that goes
with it, and there's a believability that they get knowing
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when they come to the ballpark no matter what they're
in the lineup, unless, of course, like you said, you're
oll for seventy four. I get it, But Kyle Tucker
had to play through it. Bregman's played through it. I mean,
you've got to let some of those guys and if
you're they if they don't think they can win with them,
then you've got to put somebody else in there and
give them a chance to play through it as well.
And we're at the stage now that the excuse that
there can't be I understand you're injured, that's an off
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season talk. Now you're right, and now I mean, nobody
feels sorry for you, Nobody gives around and I'm not
sure they're asking for that, but it can't be. Man,
they're good. But button if if you're a lot of
butts and IFFs at this stage of the season, if
those are applied to your team, you're probably not where
you need to be. And there's no way anybody can
feel overly confident about the way that the production at
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the Plate has been. You just can't. If you are,
you're just you're you're probably in the optimistic point view.
Were you a little unrealistic because right now potential, yes,
but production's more important at this stage. And all we've
heard about this year for the most part at the
Plate has been potent. Potential. Production's reared its head once
in a while. The production's been done in the pitcher's
mount for the most part this year.
Speaker 6 (01:30:14):
Well, And to your point, last night was a microcosm
of what they've been through for about the last couple
of months.
Speaker 5 (01:30:19):
How many runs they scored last night?
Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Three on the road against the number one team and
then again the number one team in the East, but
one of the best teams.
Speaker 6 (01:30:26):
It's the age old stats are deceiving because what we
got eleven hits? Okay, runners in scoring position two for eleven,
eleven guys left on base. So fine, you're getting the hits.
You're just not cashing in when you need to do that.
What are your kicking field goals?
Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
When you say about a well field goal kicker, it's
easy to kick when you're when you're up forty one
to three, and you get three more field goal attempts
if you miss him, it's not causing you a game.
It's the same thing with a quarterback. How often do
we hear you'll see this if you're on the wrong
side of the team. Oh yeah, but he threw for
three hundred yards in the second half, but they were
down forty right, we call those empty yards, right right,
(01:31:01):
But had you won the game, then we need the
four hundred yards. It's the same thing here. It's like, okay, yeah,
you got eleven hits, but how many of them came
through at the right time? I mean, I'm talking at
a time when you needed him, and maybe, just maybe
this year, the Clutch Jean's taking a little time off
at the plate. Not maybe it has now. Does that
(01:31:22):
mean it can't rear it's head. No, But one hundred
and forty five games or so into the season, the
Clutch Jean's been, uh has taken a bit of a
sabbatical this year. What I have the plate? What is
this a union job? Was there a smoke break? I
don't know about. It's well, we get we get enough
days off for smoke breaks. I tell you that lineup changes.
(01:31:42):
Somebody's getting a smoke break. It ain't me, but somebody is.
And I'm adamantly against it. I just am sorry.
Speaker 5 (01:31:49):
I forget smoke breaks too. But there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
There's another I hear that from somebody. Oh you smoke?
I started, so I get a break. Start smoking, just
so you can get outside for ten minutes during work, right,
and you need eight of them. But they really don't
have time for smoke breaks or to get your feelings right,
or to take a day off because you're a little
tired after playing a night game.
Speaker 6 (01:32:10):
Sorry, you judge people who you can tell smoke. There's
there's one on this floor, and I'm gonna leave out names.
Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
Well, come on, man's if you're a longtime smoker, it's
pretty easy to see and smell for that matter, no
cologne you put on condract.
Speaker 6 (01:32:24):
I'm supposed to get on that elevator. I think I'm
gonna miss that elevator. I'll wait for the next one. Yeah,
I'm good. I don't need the Dutch oven. All right,
John and Garry, we'll talk to you. You want us
to talk to you too, or yell at you, any
of those things you can yell at us. Hell, we'll
allow for anything. Seven one three two on two five
seven ninety you can seven one three two on two
five seven ninety h. We'll continue the Astros conversation. Do
(01:32:46):
want to get into a little bit of Demiko and
the Texans?
Speaker 5 (01:32:48):
We'll do that too. Sewn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk, seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
I am a dip guy, you say, Sean will kind
of well, I can tell you what kind of dip
daisy French onion dip in the daisy ram now I am.
I'm like the finger food appetizer chips, you know, throw
a fredo in their chips to get the dips. Sometimes
to the point on college game day or during Saturdays
and studies get up put the spread. It always has
(01:33:14):
the daisy French onion dip or the daisy ranch tip.
Was in the local grocery store over the weekend picking
it up, and why because well the other foods finding
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You do it on Labor Day, you do it on holidays.
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(01:33:58):
my college football Saturday and Sunday or any other day
of the week doing what really is the strength of
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(01:34:18):
at a grocery store near you. Sean Salisbury show continues
Good Texas, saying, m Maggie's I just Matt, you do
a quality job.
Speaker 7 (01:34:29):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
It was honored to be there, and I'm always there
for you and to raise all that money to make
a difference and just good victuals, good times and a
good golf course and a good man. And I'm grateful
to be a part of something that quite frankly, a
lot of other people could have invited. So thanks good
stuff man. I missed him on Channel eleven, really really
(01:34:50):
really did that and went coached his grandkid baseball game
after Sean, I got to go coach the grandson.
Speaker 5 (01:34:56):
Pay to play some baseball.
Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
A lot of people respect well respected in this town
shouldn't be And I was grateful to be there. And
it's always fun when you can hit a golf ball
on a Tuesday.
Speaker 6 (01:35:06):
So when I first got into this business and O nine,
he was one of the first people to talk to me.
I've always really appreciated that. Thank hey, roots for people's success.
We had a lot of good ones here locally, and
Matt's one of them, for sure. He's uh when they
say they're retired, retired, yeah, but they're always doing something.
Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
Oh it's making a different something. They're retired from doing
that job, but they're doing all kinds of other things
to make a difference. And Matt's no different.
Speaker 6 (01:35:26):
Real quick here before we get on the phone lines,
like Mark Berman is the perfect example of that. I
saw him in the press box for Billy Wagner's Jersey
retirement and immediately on the phone with somebody like he's
chasing a story again. And I pointed to a buddy
of mine seeing it next to me, I go, I go, look,
look he's still working. Never leaves him, he's still doing it. Yeah,
that's okay, man, it's been ingraining here with four decades
(01:35:46):
for however long you've been doing it. But yeah, it
was good and just grateful for people who sacrificed to
raise money for others and then allow us to eat
the food, have good cold beer and go play golf
with some friends and friendsy and seeing it becomes a
reunion of sorts, but for the right reason. So it
was really good, Matt, thank you and I appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (01:36:05):
Man.
Speaker 5 (01:36:06):
When all the way around my group, really good, really
good group of guys.
Speaker 6 (01:36:09):
See, that makes it even better, you know, especially if
you're if you're with a group that you're having fun,
even if you're not putting up the you know, the
huge numbers, and it's like, hey.
Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
You know what, one of our guys works here, Michael
Garfield toofield, great dude, he was in my He was
in my group as well, solid ball striker, a couple
of former players and yeah, oh yeah, well you know what,
we all scram around you Oh yeah, what do you
we all? It's all when we hit it the way
we want to hit it. But at there you're laughing
and joke and some guy hits it. I mean, you're
on the first tea box and you slice one into
(01:36:38):
the water, the next one you staff hook one to
the left, and then then the next one you hit
the three feet So that's that's called a scramble. And
but it's the the the experiences and the people instead
of winning the tournament. You know, we had fun and uh,
but just good people, man, I always they they It
makes me reflect when I think about thinking when all
is said and done in truth, that that it's through
(01:37:01):
this job and through sports and stuff we meet cool people, man,
And we've always made it is that's the greatest thing
about playing and broadcasting as being you meet cool people
and doing this. I feel like we know ninety percent
of our callers as friends and most of them we
haven't even met.
Speaker 5 (01:37:15):
Yeah, but that's a good thing. So it's good to
have them on. Let's get to him, man, they've been
waiting patiently for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:37:20):
Someone three two and two five seven ninety Stros lose
last night four to three in ten innings. Dana Brown
going to join us here in about forty five minutes.
John on the northwest side, John, good morning.
Speaker 7 (01:37:31):
Hey Man, Good morn, hey man.
Speaker 8 (01:37:32):
I was in and out on the patio.
Speaker 7 (01:37:34):
Didn't team pitch last night?
Speaker 9 (01:37:36):
He did?
Speaker 7 (01:37:38):
He ditched a tent in and I think.
Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
And no, that was that was that was hold On.
That was Kimberl that pitched the tenth inning. King pitched
the seventh and the.
Speaker 7 (01:37:48):
Eighth right, and he and he had he had some
teen in and didn't do anything. This is my thing.
Speaker 8 (01:37:54):
Look, blue Ball, blue Ball could have went more than
party pitches. He could have went another one or two winning.
But besides all that the worst thing in the world.
There's no way that Dana Brown had in mind when
he signed Kemble to bring him in in situations like that.
That was like that was Joe's fire throwing the white flag.
(01:38:16):
You can't the game is tied three to three. You
still have a chance to win this game. You bring
Kimble in that, what do you expected? The Kimball are five, six, seven,
eight years ago. That's ridiculous, man, I don't care what
picture you have left in the bullpen. You do not
bring Kimball in a situation like that. I'm sure Dana
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Brown at the time he signed Kimball because we didn't
have our pictures were coming back soon. He said it hisself,
Kimball was supposed to be eating up and in and
or even coming in in a trash in it.
Speaker 7 (01:38:51):
Not in a.
Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
Situation like that.
Speaker 7 (01:38:53):
I know, a braid.
Speaker 8 (01:38:54):
You let him tie the game. He didn't have it
all last night, but hey, he was still a pitcher
ninety seven.
Speaker 7 (01:39:00):
If I had to and I had no more bull
pen picture.
Speaker 8 (01:39:03):
To bring in, I would have brought to bread you back.
I'm not gonna bring Kimberlean. And kimber Wood was great
this time. I loved him to get but you should
have brought anybody else he in there, Joe Spottle besides
that guy that's like waving the right flag.
Speaker 15 (01:39:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
I did not like that.
Speaker 7 (01:39:20):
And that's not the first time it's fout to do that.
Speaker 8 (01:39:23):
He did that a while back when he and put
Kimball out there and we lost the game. Kimball ain't
got it no more. That was a bad decision, broke
bad decision.
Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
Y'all have a good day, man.
Speaker 6 (01:39:33):
All right, See John, I'll bring you through thirty pitches.
You were not bringing him back out there. And in
terms of anybody else in that bullpen, there is nobody else.
Are you gonna throw Lance McCullers Junior in a spot
where you need to be able to make sure you
don't have guys on base and you can throw strikes.
I'm sorry he hasn't proven that he can do that.
I can't count on him there. And Brian King where
you use them. Well, there's a reason why we're having
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the conversation about Brian.
Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
To bray you. So my thing is, who's gonna start
in place of guard? Well, now, if it's up to
me aj blueball or you're going bullpen game and he
gives you four innings, as part Is said, bullpen game,
that may be more than maybe more than norm I.
Speaker 5 (01:40:12):
Think that is going to be what you're going to
be doing.
Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
And but when it comes to the Yo yore right now,
blue ball, m Colors, blue Ball, it's not close. No,
there's a lot. I mean, it's it's a it's a
bummer to say that. But I can't start him. He's
got a lot of Hunter Brown in him. Blue Ball,
Yes he does. I can't start. I go right now.
I can't. I can't ask for three innings at Lansma
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Colors as a starter. I mean going sorry to tight.
Speaker 6 (01:40:37):
Just can't going right at Aaron Judge, going right at
Vlad Guerrero Junior last night, Like he's up there, he's
not scared.
Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
I need I need that guy to factor more. I
need him to be used. He's like twenty two, you
got to say, and reached his twenty third or fourth
birthday yet, right, I mean he's a kid. I know
he's young, but I mean the future, as we've talked
about is I mean, this guy is you hear Steve
Sparks talking. Steve Spark's been talking about blue Ball for
a couple of years.
Speaker 7 (01:41:00):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
He's in between you twenty five Okay, there you go.
I thought he was twenty three or twenty four. College.
Speaker 5 (01:41:05):
He's still got the youth on his side.
Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
But the guy is needs And we've had a handful
of our callers pining more for and this was two
months ago, a month and a half ago, pining more
for Bluebond amount. So the callers are onto something, and
in truth, you trust him more harsh to say. And
it's a bummer because I like Lance, but right now
I can't run him out there. I just can't on
a consistent basis, especially as a starter. Give me anything
(01:41:30):
in a mid relief and I'll live there with him.
I gotta start somebody else.
Speaker 5 (01:41:35):
Well, I mean, it's either production or it's injuries. With Lance.
Speaker 6 (01:41:39):
I mean, that's just you can't tell the whole story
without mentioning that. I mean, you know, oh, well he's
done good things. That's not lost on me. But part
of the story is availability bingo and that's just and production,
and it doesn't look like we're going to have Luis
Garcia available anytime soon now unfortunately not Gary, Anthony Chris
will work you in. Don't forget Dana Brown gonna join
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Going non stop Sewan with former.
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QB Sean Salisbury.
Speaker 5 (01:44:32):
Bring Gary, what's going on? Gary?
Speaker 16 (01:44:35):
Hey, good morning guys. I apologize if y'all have already
already covered what I'm going to talk about, because I
just started listening about fifteen to twenty minutes ago. First
of all, I have to disagree with look here John
that was on there about Timber being the worst person
to put in there in the MLB. Uh the pictures.
I don't care who you are, you know, on the average,
(01:44:56):
pictures have a seventy thirty advantage over the batters if
you just average it all out, or even better. Really so,
he could have got him out, just didn't happen. Who
was the ninth inning picture? I didn't see the ninth inning?
It was a brave Oh god, well, and I mean
he's good, don't get me wrong. Anything that's There's nobody
(01:45:17):
else they could put in that position besides him. Is
Hater gone for the year.
Speaker 5 (01:45:22):
He's still not throwing, so it's not looking good.
Speaker 16 (01:45:25):
Okay by the time, by the time they get through brain,
he's missing that one factor. And it's got to be
mental somewhere. They just doesn't have the closer. Mentality is
great at the seventh eighth inning, but closer, I'm you know,
fifty to fifty chance, I think. But anyway, so, hey,
the one guy that you've been talking about here recently.
You remember Phil Mayton. This is like a clone of
(01:45:49):
Film Mayton, except he maybe even a little bit better.
Speaker 7 (01:45:52):
The guy is so good.
Speaker 16 (01:45:53):
He just shows no emotion no matter what, no high's
nose lows. He's so focused in everything.
Speaker 7 (01:46:00):
So I agree with you.
Speaker 16 (01:46:01):
I think they might need to plug him in as
the next starter if what's his name that's not coming back.
So I'm really impressed with him. He looked good and everything.
And I don't guess they would use him as a
closer because they need innings out of him. So anyway, uh,
I just don't I don't know about bray you being
(01:46:21):
the closer. I just I just don't have confidence in him.
So anyway, I just wanted to give give some praise
for uh uh for blue Balls. I appreciate him. He's
going to be really good. He needs to hang on
to him. So anyway, good show, guys, Thanks for letting
me in.
Speaker 6 (01:46:34):
Thanks Gary AJ blue Ball. Yes, he has been very good. Sean,
you were saying, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (01:46:42):
Was trying to ask Gary a question, but he was rolling,
so I don't even remember what I was going to
ask him now. I was just God, it was about
the ramp up, Josh, Oh, the ramp up will take
too long. Unless they extend themselves and plays, you can't
get him. And if if he hasn't started throwing yet,
you got seventeen games to go, so you do that rehab.
Whatever you get him done, they'd have to be pretty
damn good. In the playoffs to expect it. Then I
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don't see how he's ready to go in the regular see,
especially judging from the history here, it ain't gonna be quick.
Speaker 5 (01:47:12):
It's just not.
Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
It doesn't have a quick and they always air on
the side of protecting the players safety and rightfully, so
you're not gonna get it anytime soon. I wouldn't think
I'll be shocked if he pitches his share at all.
Speaker 5 (01:47:23):
Well you yeah, him, him and Susa.
Speaker 6 (01:47:25):
It does seem like that they're they're not trending towards
coming back anytime soon. Anthony Logan, Chris, see you guys
right there. We'll get you in seven one three two
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more Astros, But then do want to get into just
a little bit of Texans before we turn to Dana
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two one two five seven ninety Anthony wants to weigh in. Anthony,
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (01:50:36):
Hey, Good morning guys.
Speaker 15 (01:50:37):
Hey, So I was just calling. I played this game baseball,
that that is, and I played it through my senior
year at high in high school, and I'm thankful to
I have played at a high school that continuously cranks
out professional athletes. But you know, just playing at that level,
I can tell the average fan that has never played
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the game, this is baseball. And Deon Sanders has said
the same. Baseball statistically the hardest game there is to
split play, especially with American sports. And the fact of
the matter is is that the greatest players to ever
put on this uniform fail to reach base seven out
(01:51:21):
of ten times. And history would tell us that Altuve
is knocking on the door of an eight for fifteen
where he hits two bombs and drives in a bunch
of runs. So I'm on the other side of the
scale of most fans with Altuve, I say keep running
him out there, you know. I know Sean has already
mentioned this.
Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
Let him work through it, you know.
Speaker 15 (01:51:42):
I think a guy like Altuve, who has been in
the league for a long time and has shown us
that he is able to work through this, has a
much longer lease than a guy who a rookie, you know,
or a younger player. So Altuve is going to continue
to run out there, and Al two is going to
break out of this slump and be a big part
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of this team's success down the road.
Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
Appreciate it, Anthony, Listen, there's certain guys. Now, I'm a
performance based guy, not a potential guy. I've always been
like that. If you perform, you play. If you don't,
you don't. But there are our guys who have earned
the right to play through it, and Al two bay
is one of them. He's struggled.
Speaker 7 (01:52:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
Whether that means you move him around the lineup, that's
up to Joe Spotta, and you may need to. But
there's no manager in Major League Baseball or anybody that's
that's that's got a little the manager with sanity that's
gonna sit this guy. That'd be the equivalent of going
to The Angels have always trusted Mike Trout right, Yeah,
(01:52:44):
even though all the injuries. That'd be the equivalent in
our world of going to Mike Trout and saying, dude,
you're struggling, he's healthy. Let's say he's healthy. You're struggling, man.
You having a tough go of it.
Speaker 13 (01:52:54):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
In August and September, I'm gonna sit you down for
a week. We're gonna bench you. No, because you don't
want to be the one that when it finally breaks
out of it, do you missed out on it? We've
seen the movie before. I understand the frustration. Instead of
let's bench him, it's going to be how do we
get it fixed? And I'm not sure there's any real
discipline to getting hose Al to the fixed because he's
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not a disciplined hitter. He chases, but he's the best.
Put it this way, when you think two man scramble
golf and you're with a partner in you, you're playing
a force. You and your buddies are playing and you
drop the tea to see who's on whose team, and
you're a ham and egg team. For instance, I was
(01:53:39):
playing with a good team. I choose a guy who's
constantly in the fairway that I'm longer than constantly in
the fairway because I can ham an egg as good
as anybody. Why, I've been in sand and rough plenty. Honestly,
I don't know what the relaxation is. But I'll hit
a shot that you would know you have no business hitting,
and hit a grain from two hundred yards to take
it out and cut it. It's like wow. And then
(01:54:00):
there's eighty yards sitting straight of flag stick. You put
a loub budge in a handy chili did into sixty yards. Okay,
but I need that guy who's simple thing just keeps
you just clockwork. I'm the ham and egg guy. I'm
the egg guy that they can do it same thing
in baseball too many. He's a guy you're not relying
much on mechanics. You're not going to say do this.
You're just gonna say, dude, keep ham and egging. Eventually
(01:54:21):
you're going to catch up to that high fastball and
you're going to tomahawk it into the Crawford boxes. And
all of a sudden he does go eight for nine
to twenty with three home runs. And I know it's
hard to bear through that. Listen, it's frustrating and you
say come on, but come on, you're not going through
nobody else that's in the lineup, even if he's struggling
or not, gives you a better chance to I'm not
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talking Jordan. I'm just talking about streaky hitters. When they go,
they can literally load you up. Dude. Al Tuove may
be short and tight, but he's had the ability to
go and remember who leads a team at home runs
allowed hers to the people to back in here Altuve
twenty four. So if he runs into it, he goes,
and you can't risk not running into it. It's just
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like when people say, man, you're a fromber, what's going
on in emotion? Emotion? He's got to get it right
or he doesn't go sideways in a game regularly, only
when things are going good. Well, are you not going
to start him? You may move him back and start
Hunter Brown in game one of the playoffs, you're not
not starting in because he's got the potential to No. No,
you're asked every time he goes out there. Even though
(01:55:28):
the last six or seven starts, one or two of
them have been good, four of them have been uh,
and one's been average. You're running him out there because
he's the best option you got, not name Hunter Brown.
Al Tuve can go on a hot streak with the
best of them. He's other than the day off that
they give him, like regular scheduled de al Tuvey is
going to play. If he's zero for eighteen in the playoffs,
(01:55:51):
he will play off. He will be in the lineup
to goal for twenty two if that's the case, and
hopefully it's not so the benching and get rid of out. No,
you can move him around lineup if you want. Al
two vas never is while you're here. Al two Vason
never gonna hit eighth in the lineup. Just so you
know this, it's never gonna happen. You'd be lucky for
him to hit six or something. He's gonna hit one
through five because you're always anticipating he's gonna bust out,
(01:56:15):
and when he does, it's hell to pay. But in
the process of it sometimes it looks awful. Now, he's
never going to best out a bad base running because
he's got a good base runner. But he's your ham
and egg guy in basic. He just is jord On,
hit it do it all, just clock or great hitter
with power, great hitter, not power hitter that can hit
great hitter with power. AL two vas You're he's the Ham.
Speaker 5 (01:56:38):
You know what you're getting.
Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
Al two Vay's the egg guy. Ham and egger Man.
They'd be perfect partners on a golf course if you
applied it to baseball. Dude, you keep hitting a three
twenty down the middle, and if you're struggling with your
putting game, I'll my mechanics will look weird. I'll have
that golf swing like Jim Furick. That's like I don't
know how he squares the club up, but he does,
or how Cameron Young holds it at the top. AL
two and I'll be damn. He'll pull a ball on
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the outside part of the plate into the Crawford boxes
once in a while.
Speaker 5 (01:57:03):
You're like, what he just will?
Speaker 1 (01:57:07):
So whatever your feelings are about it, get those out
of your thoughts. He ain't getting benched for any extended time,
and the benching would be a one day's rest, and
it ain't called a benching, It's called scheduled day off,
which I don't want him to have, no, because the
only way he's gonna get through it is playing him,
because he will chase one out of the strike zone,
and it's going to be up on an opening inning
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fastball that's up and out, and he's gonna swing at
it out of the strike zone and he's gonna crush
it into the seat, and it may happen tonight, and
when he does, we're all gonna say, that's my guy.
And it won't be a fastball that's sitting dead red,
So right right down Broadway, it's gonna be one that
you're like, how do you get to that? And you're
gonna say, oh, that's our guy. And that's why he's
(01:57:49):
in a lineup, and his history is shown that he's
capable of doing this regularly.
Speaker 6 (01:57:54):
Someone three two one two five seven ninety New Orleans, Chris,
Good morning, Chris.
Speaker 12 (01:58:00):
Hey guys, I'm a little frustrated this morning. This continual
bench people, fire hitting coaches. It's just grinding my gears.
And the thing is, I don't know if you guys
remember Chappelle used to have a thing about modern problems
require modern solutions. Sometimes modern problems require historical solutions, So
(01:58:21):
we can go back to the nineties. So I'm gonna
tell you what they need to do to fix this.
First of all, when they get on that plane from
Toronto to Atlanta, they need to divert it diverted to
San Antonio because you know what.
Speaker 7 (01:58:34):
They got in San Antonio. According to Charles Barkley, they.
Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
Got them big old women.
Speaker 7 (01:58:39):
And what they need to do deplay these guys and.
Speaker 12 (01:58:44):
Dana can thank me for this later when he hears this.
Speaker 5 (01:58:47):
Deplaying those guys.
Speaker 12 (01:58:49):
You take them out to the bar and Mark Grace
unlocked this.
Speaker 5 (01:58:54):
Cheap code in the nineties.
Speaker 13 (01:58:56):
They need to go out to the bar, find them
one of them big old women.
Speaker 7 (01:59:00):
And get them a slumpbuster, and they can thank me later.
Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
Only if they're single. Thanks, thanks Chris, only if they're single.
But point well taken.
Speaker 16 (01:59:11):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:59:11):
Well, one thing that I don't think I'm gonna ask
Dana Brown, although it would be funny, Dana, you guys
want to head to Santonio and get a big fat
girl slumpbuster. Charles. Charles sent the mesters twice and he
sent it to us here in Houston. Wanted us to
pass along to you. Uh, Charles Sparkle, that is good,
Go get the slump buster. Data would probably laugh, But
I don't know if the general man is going to
(01:59:32):
encourage got out and drop in some pound cake in
San Antotio. They got to stop at a lad at first,
But I do get his point. And Mark Grace did
make the slumpbuster quote famous. Well, no doubt, here's one
of the kind. Here's here's how that would go. You
would ask the question, he would answer it in the moment.
Speaker 6 (01:59:47):
But then you know who gets the text message that
astros GM Dana Brown is not going to join us anymore.
On Wednesdays at nine thirty, I would get the text message.
Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
I'll push the envelope on a lot of things. Slump
busters with Jaya probably one of them. But don't think
in that clubhouse. Somehow, some way the conversation, man, I
got to guess, I mean joking around that that's been
brought up, and it's a good thing to laugh at.
Who of us have we've all even when you're goal
to your slump, no matter what sport or what part
(02:00:17):
of life you're in. Man, And you don't literally but
figure you like, I need the slumpbuster whenever that's turn
your hat backwards or get a big fat girl, whatever
you consider it. But yeah, I don't know if Dana
ay Man data things are going, well, how's this man
going well, I mean struggling at the plate a little bit.
By the way, I know a way to fix it.
Stevie sean, Well, let's bottle up and sell. Well, she's
too big to bottle up and sell, but a slumpbuster
(02:00:37):
in San Antonio. There you go.
Speaker 6 (02:00:39):
You could do what Rex Hudler used to do. I
love hud The way to fire up the guys in
the clubhouse. You would do naked handstand pushups. No, I
don't think anybody's gonna go for that, but.
Speaker 1 (02:00:48):
You know, yeah, well the optics are already which I
mean gross me out. Yeah, because the dangling it's you're
actually if you're with Sadian naked upside down handstand pushups, yeah, well,
aren't you natural gonna possibly t bag yourself?
Speaker 6 (02:01:02):
Well, I mean you possibly could, but I mean I
think also though, I think that would mean you're like
eighty five in their game of the goal was like
to discuss everybody so much that then they would take
their mind off of what is ailing them at the plate.
Speaker 1 (02:01:16):
Well, the best drive I have struggled, like I told yesterday,
was one of those that trying to find the fair
way the way you want to and a scramble, sure,
and my garf, like Garfield, comes up. He goes, what
did Dan Patrick say to you one time? Or what
did you guys do? Uh? Oh, do you know the
Lakers former GM Mitch cup check?
Speaker 7 (02:01:33):
You know?
Speaker 1 (02:01:34):
And then he asked me. I said, well, yeah, I
cup checked Mitch cupcheck. At one point Dan tells the
story dude, and Dan was with It was all time classic.
So Garf always reminds me of it. And the next
after I'm said, they're laughing my ass off about the
Mitch cup cha. He goes, did you really, he said,
did you cup check Mitch kupchack? I said, well, Dan
and I and the the dan Ets were sitting at
a place and he walks in and Dan goes, no, Sean,
(02:01:58):
I said, out of all these years, even you're joking
around and cup checking people cup checked Mike Tyson's New
Orleans one year, Tyson is my guy. Oh okay, he laughed. No,
that might have been the big guy six about six
eight big horses got but a former teamate of miney
two plays one of the great people of all time
love I called him kid Dynamite after Mike Tyson, a
(02:02:20):
sports illustrated so Tye kid, we did you know cup
checked him? So he said no, Sean I said yes,
and and Goffy said he goes, So when did you
do Mitch cupchack? Anybody said, dude, I'm Mitch cup checked
Mitch cupchack. How can you not? You can't miss that opportunity,
not literally, but give it. You know who's the Lakers? Yeah,
(02:02:41):
you're the Lakers. Yea me Mitch cup chack, oh boom
and fake Mitch cupchacking. So damn said, no, you can't
Mitch cup check. Mitch guy said, dude, out of all
the years you've been incurred, I can Mitch cup chack
Mitch cupchack. So Garf and I were laughing about it,
but you know what, I'm laughing my ass if guess
what My next drive was, good drive smoked it and
he's like, yep, more mitche cupchack jokes. So maybe they
(02:03:02):
need some gotch cup tracks in there, But I don't
need a naked hand sand from hud Uh. That gross
out so much that that's not gonna take me off.
It's gonna make me throw it and I'm gonna be
too sick to swing the bat. Remember remember less, remember
this where you know gotcha oh yeah, yeah, yeah, where
you know you do do the the ring. Oh yeah,
and then when they look at it, yeah yeah, it's
(02:03:22):
like playing the slug bug game.
Speaker 6 (02:03:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:03:26):
By the time you're done, you've got to your your
arms so raw from getting beat up from getting hit.
It's like, okay, enough, man, we can start. We can
play pencil break again. Whatever slump buster that is. They
could use something that busts that something. And you know what,
maybe scoring a little couple back to back jobs to
start off would be a nice way to do it. Huh,
help would be great to start the game off. That'd
(02:03:47):
be great, or you don't just play pencil break. But
I think the best part of that story is Sean. No, yes,
there you go. That's always the best. All right.
Speaker 6 (02:03:57):
You know what, Since we got a lot of you
in here, I will USh all the Texans for now,
but we'll get to you guys. And then also, Dana
Brown going to join us here in about fifteen minutes
for his weekly visit. Without Sean's question, we'll discuss here.
It is a Shaan Salisbury show, Sports Talk seven ninety now.
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Speaker 12 (02:05:41):
Let's go.
Speaker 6 (02:05:42):
This is the Sean Salisbury show logan on the southwest side.
Speaker 5 (02:05:47):
Good morning logan.
Speaker 7 (02:05:49):
Yeah, just uh bo.
Speaker 14 (02:05:50):
There's been one hundred thoughts go through my mind about
what movie clips could be made out of slumpbusters.
Speaker 6 (02:05:57):
And I can't thank of the best for each Your
Phelps was the owner of this team. Then they could
peel a piece.
Speaker 5 (02:06:03):
That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:06:04):
Every time we win, we peel a section.
Speaker 7 (02:06:10):
That's good exactly.
Speaker 14 (02:06:11):
Listen, I got to call Okay, I've never heard so
many callers about one subject, and it's the closer and look,
we got to brave, we got to use them, but
we got no choice because there's no argument there. Okay,
you get you got the Brian King. You try different
guys and that. But listen, my point is this last night,
I totally highly respect the guy that did the post
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game show.
Speaker 7 (02:06:35):
I love him, and he's got.
Speaker 1 (02:06:36):
He's got a lot of just just just like you guys.
Speaker 7 (02:06:40):
He tells it like it is.
Speaker 14 (02:06:41):
But here's the thing. I have to totally disagree with him,
and I never thought I would to the point that
I do a caller caller and said, look, there is
a reason people have closers. Every team in the MLB
has one man and one man only that you do
not bring in unless it's absolute and merge and see
in the eighth inning, and never in the seventh, but
(02:07:03):
sometimes in the eighth you have one man who is
specifically geared to come in in the bottom of the
ninth and get three men out. He's got special knowledge,
special pitches, special skills.
Speaker 7 (02:07:18):
And exactly, exactly and and what's his name?
Speaker 14 (02:07:24):
Last night, disagreed with this caller and and and then
I couldn't.
Speaker 7 (02:07:31):
Ross right.
Speaker 9 (02:07:32):
And he disagreed with his caller.
Speaker 14 (02:07:34):
He said, no, no, no, you can bring a Britain. No,
a Brad was great. He's in a slump now and
by the way, ell two of the he's got he's
in the worst slump of his career. But he will
come out of it. But I'll get my opinion, he
better come out of it in the next couple of
weeks because if he doesn't, he is not going to
come out of it in the postseason. And that's that's
(02:07:54):
my only thing there.
Speaker 5 (02:07:56):
But listen, as far as the closer goes.
Speaker 14 (02:07:59):
There, there's only one man that every team in baseball
has that they hire for one specific reason to come
in in the bottom of the ninth. If you give
up a run or a hit in the eighth or
the seventh inning, you still have a chance to overcome it.
Speaker 7 (02:08:14):
And the ninth you don't.
Speaker 5 (02:08:16):
Okay, and and you have to have that one man
got you.
Speaker 6 (02:08:22):
Hey, I'm sorry, man, I got to catch you off.
We we got Dana Brown coming up here, so we're
gonna have to leave it there. We'll get Dana Brown
real quick quote. Yeah, I go, Anthony, Well, thank you.
Craig Kimberl has eight outings with the Astros and has
yet to give up and earned run. I didn't mind
that decision by Joe there. He's been good since he's
been here.
Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
So forag if you're just going by results, you may
not think he belongs in the role because he doesn't
have an overpowering fastball anymore. But does he?
Speaker 5 (02:08:51):
He lost on two ground balls. That's why you lost
last night.
Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
So and the inability for yourself to get the ground
ball through the infield to drive in a run. There
you go.
Speaker 6 (02:09:00):
That's thereon lies the rub all right, Dana Brown his
weekly visit coming up ray here.
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The Sean Salisbury show continued Future World says champion astros
Dana Brown joins us day and before I hit your
team and thanks for joining us today as always for
(02:10:51):
your weekly visit. Then let me I want to go
to with your baseball expertise with youth baseball and high
school and cuse just the way we can train and
raise pictures. Do we have too much emphasis you see
the videos? Do we have too much emphasis on velocity
and velocity only for these young players?
Speaker 7 (02:11:12):
Yeah? Was then I think, you know, pictures are definitely
chasing velocity and spin rate and all those things that
you know, make the ball move and make the ball
jump on hitters. And so even at a younger age,
you see guys that are throwing a little bit harder,
and so I think there's some stress on the arms
and and so I think that's why we you know,
(02:11:33):
we see a lot of injuries today. But you know, ultimately,
these are competitive human beings, and you know, everybody wants
that age, and everybody wants to compete, and everybody's you know,
working hard to be good, you know. So it's you know,
kind of tough to to scale back on on guys
that are so competitive?
Speaker 1 (02:11:51):
Are we and then I'm gonna get into your team.
And I'm just curious from my insight and just trying
to get a gauge on this. Do we are we
raising more throwers than pitchers at a young age, Dana?
And you know you've seen great pitchers when you were
from Atlanta to hear You've watched him and covered it
and been a part of it and scouted it in general,
managure forever. So do we need more emphasis on pitching
(02:12:13):
as opposed to velo?
Speaker 7 (02:12:17):
Yeah? Look, I think you know, with guys chasing Vilo,
you end up being throwers instead of pitchers at times.
And you know, there are still a group of guys
that can really throw hard and really pitch at the
same time, right, you know that's that's that elite group.
And so but yeah, I think guys, it's wonderful to
see when a guy can operate, you know, when you
(02:12:38):
can just pitch ninety to ninety four and move the
ball around and throw a lot of strikes. That's that's
fun to watch, and the games move along quickly too.
But look, these guys are all competitive, man, I mean,
you you know, we're raising kids to compete, and that's
you know, what this generation has chosen.
Speaker 1 (02:13:00):
David Brown Astro's GM here on his weekly visit on
Sports Talk seven ninety Sean Salisbury Show, gut wrenching what
we saw with Garcia last night, any early returns on
your gut feeling about it and what you saw.
Speaker 7 (02:13:15):
Yeah, I'm gonna wait for the doctor. He's gonna go
in today and get some imaging and we'll take a
look and see what's going on. And it's definitely, you know,
tough to watch. I mean, you see a guy battle back,
you know, from an injury from April twenty twenty three,
and you know, he finally gets a few starts in
the big leagues and you know, all of a sudden
he goes back down and so you know, we're gonna
(02:13:37):
wait for the doctor to get more clarity on this injury.
But for sure, definitely disappointing.
Speaker 1 (02:13:44):
Yeah, and Dana with that was there going into that.
There was no signs of any other discomfort at all
before the start, right, this This was one of those
it happened last night, correct.
Speaker 7 (02:13:56):
Yeah, Look think about it. His last start, he was
pretty good, really good, competitive and through through hit size
in between starts, no issues. Uh, you know, went out
there was looking good for the first couple of innings
and then all of a sudden, you know, you know,
we see him signal to the dugout and and so
(02:14:18):
right away we're like, oh, what's going on? And so
now we know that, uh, you know, he's got to
get luck looked at. But thank god blue Ball came
in and threw the ball well and kind of continued it.
Speaker 1 (02:14:30):
He's really good, Dana blue Balls. Impressive, right, got it?
His mentality, he attacks the hitters. You I would imagine
you're pretty impressed with what you've seen from him. And uh,
is he here to stay at least this year? And
will it be in a starting roller in the bullpen
or does it really matter right now for you guys?
Speaker 7 (02:14:49):
Yeah, I mean we're gonna take that. We're going to
evaluate that there is a chance that he could end
up in a rotation. You know, especially the way he's
been throwing the ball. You know, you talk about a
guy pitching, you know, you could see him adding adding
subtrack with the fastball. You know, he was like ninety three,
ninety four, and then all of a sudden, he'll go
up to ninety seven to get a strikeout. And so
(02:15:12):
you know, he was really really pitching him. So he's
been throwing the ball very well, you know over his
last few appearances. Uh, he's been really good. Eight innings,
ten strikeouts and those last four appearances, so he's really making.
Speaker 1 (02:15:25):
A push, Dana. When with injuries do you guys have
in your in the and how you guys go about it?
Is it a the same routine? You know, how we
have check we've been checking off as you're going through
putting your game plan in and the same thing or
when you're doing whatever it is and been Business World
or Baseball World or Sports World, it's your checklist. Like
for this show, every day what we're doing. But when
it comes to the injury evaluation, is there a checklist
(02:15:48):
you guys go through for each and every individual or
each and every situation.
Speaker 7 (02:15:53):
Yeah, Look, our doctors are very in tune with each
of our players, and it's every individual is different and
so now that's kind of like how we handle it.
And you know, when a guy goes down, we have
certain protocols that we follow and you know, we try
to get him back as soon as possible. But we
(02:16:14):
you know, along with the doctors and the imaging and
you know, we do a lot of different things when
it comes to evaluating, you know, the return of players
and so uh, as I mentioned each guy his own individuals,
so it's it's person related and so you know, we
definitely have a checklist of you know, what we go
(02:16:36):
through is so it's unfortunate that this year we've we've
suffered so many injuries and you know, look the big
pictures were still a game up and we control our
own fate and you know, we just simply need to
get hot and we need to start swaying the bats.
Speaker 1 (02:16:54):
Well, we see Josh Hader in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (02:16:58):
I think there's a chance that we see John Hater.
More likely it would be a postseason uh, you know,
but he's grinding to try to get back. But I
think it's more like the postseason because we're at a
time we're gonna have seventeen seventeen games last and you know,
(02:17:19):
when you sit out for a certain amount of time,
it takes time to build back up, yep, And so yeah,
it's gonna take a little while to get him back.
Speaker 1 (02:17:28):
Did we know how electrical brad you is, Dana, Do
you think from your expertise he's comfortable in the closer
role right now.
Speaker 7 (02:17:36):
Yeah, I mean, think about a brave man. He's he's
nasty for yeah, two four nine earn run average, has
got over one hundred strikeouts. You know, he's closed out
four of the five staves since uh, you know, Hater
went down, and so look, it's it's definitely a good
punch to to lose a game like that last night.
(02:17:56):
But you know, A Brady's been really good for us,
and so you know, one of the things we you know,
we just have to stay focused on is you can't
put give out free passes. You cannot walk guys late
in the game. And I think the walks came back
to haunt us, and so that makes it very difficult
(02:18:17):
to put a team away. You know late you got
to go right after him.
Speaker 1 (02:18:21):
And will he be I mean when it gets to
the ninth inning, he is going forward at least until
Hater's back or otherwise notified, obray, who's going to be
the guy closing out the ninth inning? Correct?
Speaker 7 (02:18:33):
Yeah, So I would say, look, he's going to get
save opportunities for sure, depending on you know, how many
days in a row he throws or how many pitches
that he throws. I mean he threw I think it
was twenty nine last night, so it was probably not
available tonight to close out the game, right, But when
we have opportunities to close, he's going to be one
of the guys that we call on the close.
Speaker 1 (02:18:56):
Dana Brown astros GM for a couple more minutes here
on Sports Talk seven ninety is we visit We're always
grateful for runners in scoring position, a bit of you know,
the timely hit data. You've talked about it, great at bats,
good at bats, working the count, all those things. How
do you buck this trend? You know, when you're into
game planning and working against the looking at the analytics
of the other team's pitcher and all that. It's tough
(02:19:18):
to work on those things during a season, Dana, how
do you fix this? With seventeen games to go heading
into the playoffs? When I say fix, how do you
buck the trend of runners in scoring position not getting
the clutch hit? Is it just you got to get it?
Or is there something you can do to change the
course of this?
Speaker 7 (02:19:35):
Yeah, this is twofold one. Look, our pitching has been
really good all year.
Speaker 1 (02:19:39):
Thank goodness, right, Dana, Thank goodness, yep.
Speaker 7 (02:19:42):
Yeah, pretty much carrying us right. And so when it
comes down to these last seventeen games, I just think
we're going to have to really force the pitcher to
throw the pitches that we want to see. You know,
right now, I think we're swinging that pitches on the edges.
They're a lot of a lot of these pictures are nibbling.
If you watch the game and you watch it closely
(02:20:04):
like I do, you know, they're they're pitching around the
edges and our guys are a little too amped up
and they're swinging at some of the pitchers pitches instead
of grinding me at that and making a guy come
in the zone. You know, uh, you know, you take
the DS at bat last night when he got the
RBI down the left field line. You know, the prior
(02:20:26):
to that, the pitch the pitcher threw a ball like
out of the strike zone. We kind of chased it,
but you know, Diaz waited for the next pitch and
he threw it one in the zone and he and
he took advantage of it. That's really the crux of
it right there. I think that you know, we're gonna
have to force the pictures to come in the zone
so we can get you know, get our pitches. Stop
(02:20:48):
being so over anxious. And I think guys are trying
to do too much because we you know, the hitters
understand and they feel it. They know they understand that, Look,
we need to make some adjustments and they're pressing a
little bit, I think, And so we're just gonna have
to be a little bit more patient. And as I
always talk about, they usually come in bunches. It's just
(02:21:10):
that we're seventeen games away from the end of the
season and we're gonna have to turn the corner here soon.
Speaker 1 (02:21:15):
And Dana, that's been a trend at the plate this year.
You've talked patients and good at bats and working to
get your pitch as opposed to the pitcher's pitch. So
at this stage, though, how do I mean trying to
convince them to do it? And as the pressure starts
to mount, as you get closer to the playoffs, doesn't
that pine for well you start to chase even more
because that's been the trend this year. How do you
(02:21:37):
buck the trend? We know what the answer is, how
do you get the answer to the test? So how
do you get to it on a daily basis right now.
Speaker 7 (02:21:45):
Yeah, we're just gonna have to get locked in. I
mean maybe we have to just sit and medicate and
just kind of focused on you know eyes cause you
know the old school thing where you just close the
eyes and you envision yourself swinging at really good pitches.
So and stop being overrangees. Uh, you know, we're just
gonna have to get creative like that and really think
(02:22:06):
this thing through and lock down. I know that the
players are very aware of it, you know, so these
hitters are not you know, this is not new to
the hitters. They understand that. Look, we have to get
locked in, and you know, uh, thank god, we're still
control our fate. We're up one and we need to
put some space in between this right now, and we
(02:22:27):
we play those guys. You know, we play Seattle three
more times. We you know, we play Texas three more times,
so you know, we're gonna get the opportunity to deliver
a knockout punch. And we're still in first place place
and we've been we've been in first place for a
long time. We just we control our fate. It's just
we've got to get the job done.
Speaker 1 (02:22:46):
What do you see with hose L two Bay struggle
right now just in a is that bats because we
know he's a guy that will go after high fastballs
and chase a little bit, but that's his he's a
great ham and egg guy. He's been great with that.
But when he's going through it, it's it's hyper sense.
What do you see from your expertise from him?
Speaker 7 (02:23:03):
Yeah, sometimes these things unravel, you know, because you get
over anxious and you know he knows, he knows what
he needs to do. There's no question. I mean, Jose is,
you know, on the brink of being, you know, a
Hall of Famer. So look, this is not a guy
that's far into getting hits. He's a clutch guy. He
can deliver and he can carry a club for weeks
(02:23:26):
and months. But you know, right now he's expanding his
zone a little bit. He's got to tighten his zone up.
And you know, once he gets locked into that zone,
I think good things are going to happen. But you
know we've got to get him there sooner rether than later.
Speaker 1 (02:23:41):
Dan, I know how much you trust your pitchers. We've
talked about and they've been damn good and carried this
team this year for the most part. And I know
the history of the guys at the plate. Do you
trust them the same way you did when this season started?
Speaker 7 (02:23:56):
Absolutely? I mean think about this. We've gone through this
season with all the ebbs and flows of injuries and
the ups and downs, and these guys have continued to
maintain and hold on to what's dear to our heart,
and that's getting back to the postseason and getting deep
into the postseason. And you know, with seventeen to go
(02:24:17):
and one up, there's a lot that could happen. You know,
you can go on an eight game run and build
that lead up to five, and which I think we'll do.
We just need to get hot. We need to get
hot soon. These guys are really good. If you look
up and down our lineup, the lineup's good, the rotation's good.
You know, even losing Garcia, we could inshirt blue ball
in there. Who's throwing the ball well, So we're good enough.
(02:24:40):
You know, we just got to get the job done.
But they'll make no mistake. This club is good enough.
And you know, we have enough pitching, We have enough
hitng we have enough bullpen, we have the defense. We
just got to get the job done. And I believe
in this club. This is a good club, and you
know we have playoffs pedigree and you know that's where
(02:25:01):
we want to get back to the playoffs and get
deep into the postseason.
Speaker 1 (02:25:04):
And I'll let you go simple one here with that
in mind, this uh, the the is it comes you trust. Also,
the postseason shops. So getting there is an advantage for
this resilient team that's been there many times before, because
that does matter to you.
Speaker 7 (02:25:21):
Absolutely. Look, we want to win the division and we
want to get deep into the postseason, and we want
to continue to keep our Astro fans excited locked in. Uh. Look,
we're we're a good club and we know that we
have the fan base pulling for us. Uh, you know,
we want to want this fan base to continue to
(02:25:42):
understand that. Look, we're locked in on the postseason and
that's where we're headed and we just need to get
the job done.
Speaker 1 (02:25:48):
And the minimal rest. It's go time, minimal rest for
those stars, right, you said it last week, gets time.
It's the dead sprint. And when they're healthy enough to play,
they're playing. That's what we're going to see in the lineup.
Speaker 7 (02:25:58):
All right, whatever, Look whatever he enough to play, they're
going to play. You know, the one case we may
have to do is hit reset just mentally for you know,
a guy here and there. That's it's just part of
what we do. You know, it won't be because of
any physical thing. I think sometimes you just have to
hit reset with the day off, you know.
Speaker 17 (02:26:17):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (02:26:17):
And I don't know how that's going to play out,
you know, I think that you know, for the most part,
these guys are going to be all in the lineup
for the for the rest of the way. But there
are times and you know, as a you know, a
guy that's fenish sports your entire life, you have to
hit reset at some point mentally. Uh, just the wusaw
a little bit and so uh but let's hope that uh,
(02:26:38):
you know, these guys are locked in and ready to go.
And and we don't need a mental break either. I
think these guys are. These guys are ready to go.
We have a good enough team. It's it's as I
said before, it's go time. Like it's seventeen games left
and we got to get the job done. That's what
that's what that's what it boiled down.
Speaker 1 (02:26:57):
It starts tonight against a good Toronto team. Dana, thank
you so much. Look next week and hopefully that Lee
will be extended by our next conversation and we'll get
good news on Garcia.
Speaker 5 (02:27:05):
We appreciate your time, man, thank.
Speaker 7 (02:27:06):
You absolutely, Today's the day to turn it around.
Speaker 1 (02:27:10):
There, you go appreciate it. That's Dana Brown, Astros GM.
We'll visit with him again next week. We'll come back
and close it out here with Dan and I. It
is Sports Talk seven ninety. Still is u as optimistic
as ever, but he knows that hitting has to pick
it up, absolutely has to. Sports Talk seven ninety and
the Sewn Salsbury Show continued.
Speaker 6 (02:27:30):
Rangers and Mariners both a game and two and a
half games back, respectively. But Dana Brown still confident in
this team, still believes they can do it. And you
heard what he said to the Astros fans. They're locked
in seventeen games to go.
Speaker 1 (02:27:43):
Sean have to be and he trusted Al two is
going to find his way out of it. But Chase
Mode and I think when he was talking about a
mental day, but I think part of that was referring
to Al two Bay. Sometimes a mental day is more
important than a physical day. Al two Bay Homers tonight.
First at at, I wouldn't be shocked. Springer got the
best of them last night, so it's time for return
(02:28:04):
the favor.
Speaker 15 (02:28:05):
He did.
Speaker 6 (02:28:07):
That looked like the World Series right there. I was like,
oh my god. I was like, God, it just sucks
that it's on the other team. Just fills on our team.
You're like, oh, way to go joke. Oh no, yeah,
still love them and I will always love that guy,
no doubt. All Right, he's Shawn with energy. You damn
right he did?
Speaker 5 (02:28:24):
Did you use that?
Speaker 7 (02:28:25):
For sure?
Speaker 6 (02:28:26):
He's triple Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews talk to you in
twenty hours.
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