Astros Lose Opener to Yankees, Framber's Debacle on the Mound, Dana Brown's Weekly Segment

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury to usc Troup's longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Dan Matthewscus. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
It's ground ball hit weekly to Volpe the shortstop underhands
to second base for the Force, and that'll do it
for the Astros. It started out promising, ended up with
three fielders choices in a row, and we've completed three
now in Houston, it's the Yankees two, the Astros nothing.

Speaker 6 (00:40):
Here's the one ot of Grisham and he hits this
in the year deep to left. Al Twovey is back
at the wall looking up a grand slam for Trent Gresham,
his third of the season, and the Yankees lead six
to nothing.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
Yeah, he is Bunny, gets it down and it's caught
by Freed and he throws the first double play du
Bon off the back. Freed with a very athletic play
the gold Glover off of the mound like a cat
to two breaking ball, and that's lined softly to Blackbird.
He'll double off Diaz underhanding it to gold Schmidt and

(01:16):
that is the ball game. The New York Yankees flexter
muscles hit three homers and they defeat the Astros seven
to one to take the first game of this three
game series, third loss in the last four for Houston.

Speaker 7 (01:29):
Tuesday at dyke In Park. A whole lot of ugly,
not a lot of pretty, And with that we say,
ohway we go, good morning here on the Sewn Salisbury
shows Sports Talk seven ninety. I mean, just kind of
just throw a dart at the board and it's going
to land on something ugly.

Speaker 8 (01:48):
It was.

Speaker 7 (01:49):
I mean, first and foremost we know what happened with
Fromber and with Saysar Salazard. You're gonna hear from both
of them during the show. So that's number one. It's
bad base running, it's bunting. I mean, you know the
first one with Jeremy Pania where you're just like, you
don't do that, why are you doing this? And then
of course Mauricio dubon bad base running as I mentioned,

(02:13):
and I mean, yeah, there's probably so much more Sean
that I could get into that was ugly because there
was not one single part of that game last night
other than Fromber's first inning. The first inning you're like, okay, hey,
this could be a good night here, Niny leave runners
on base and then the second inning, jas Chishm hit

(02:33):
the two run homer and they load up the bases.
There in Fromber's fifth inning, and you have the grand
slam into the Crawford boxes. I mean, if you were
settling in thinking to yourself again, hey it's gonna be
a fun night.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, think again.

Speaker 7 (02:52):
I mean you pretty much had Joe Exotic right there
saying guess what you know?

Speaker 9 (02:56):
Who?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
This is who they've been. Man, this shouldn't shock you.
Tell me not again that this is out. Okay, I'll
get this fixed. The ugliness is in the studio. The
uh yeah, I love it. This is who the Astros
have been. You you should come to expect this a game.

(03:19):
Two games get a little sideways. One game goes good,
two games go average. One game goes bad, two games
go good, another game goes pretty good. The pitcher Fromber,
I I don't trust his game. I'm sorry, I just don't.
I think he's a Listen, I hate having to preface

(03:41):
this with this. If Fromber pitches, well, he's really good.
See that. If you gotta go throw in front of it,
oh yeah, it's it's not the win and he's his
stuff is lights out. I don't need to preface that
I don't trust him and I wouldn't pay him thirty
million a year for six years. I wouldn't do it.
He's not the ASMI staff, and he's proven that day

(04:05):
day in and day out, inconsistently, phenomenal, consistently, there's better,
and there's better on this team, and there's better like him.
Don't love him. And if I like a guy and
don't love him, if I'm that, I have zero issue
with you moving on. Hence why they hoping they could
milk it out of him at the All Star break
and aren't worried about next year that they're just not

(04:29):
and why would you great? But you know what I
can get to his head if I'm an opposing team,
I can pretty simply hell of a talent. I see
it every year in all sports, hell of a talent
and then getting in his way as him, And it's
happened too often for me to say that's the as

(04:50):
I'm going, And he'd go and throw a no hitter
in a World Series game, that's how talented he is.
But we keep saying it and saying it, and I
just I think you're enjoying the last handful of starts
for him as an Astro. I just do and I
don't know how it's going to turn out this year.
This team is, you know, like I said, this team is.
There's there should be no shock at this stage of
the season. Although there is because sometimes you scratch your

(05:12):
head on communication and base running. There should be no
shock a supremely talented team that has flashes of World
Series written all over it and also has flashes of
don't make the playoffs written all over it, and a
whole bunch in between. And if you get the good
in a seven game series or in a short series,
you'll you'll win it because you're too You get some
pretty good pitching. If you get the average Astros, they'll

(05:36):
score two runs and you'll be out of the playoffs
pretty quickly. That's the That's the extremes of the two
and quite frankly, that's where they've they lived in those
They've lived in those extremes all year long. They fortunate.
There's been parts of this team that have stayed the
course and been like bulldogs the entire time. I don't
question the Astros want to and I don't question there grit,

(05:58):
and I a question of talent I just think they're
not as good as they've been in the past as
far as production goes. And I just do And they
last night showed you that. Well they hold the ill
hated Yankees. They walked right into your room and kicked
your ass at home. That that's exactly what came into
your trap and took over your trap. Well they also
they also ate and put some food in your microwave

(06:20):
and then ate it in your kitchen. Hey, you sat
there and watched, Well, I ate it right, So I
don't know, man, good not great. I mean, listen, anything
you can get posted and beyond after what I've seen
this year, the inconsistent and the inconsistency and the injuries,
anything you can get in the postseason and get beyond
and move on series. This series, that's my expectations are

(06:43):
not World Series. My expectations are can you string together
three or four games to get to that point that
That's where I am with them right now, And it's
not Hey, I listen, I you know me, I'm a
glass out full guy. But there's just you don't reinvent
who you are with what you got left at this
stage of the season. Can you go on winning streaks,
sure you can. Can you go on losing streaks, sure

(07:05):
you can. But who you are is at this stage
of the season. There's not a person that's ever covered
sports in their life, been in it, played it, watched it,
covered it, talk about it. It doesn't think at this
stage of the season we know who a team is.
If your team's four and five, nine games into an
NFL season, you know who your team is. You don't

(07:25):
just you don't get unlucky five wins to five losses.
You either get your ass kicked. You may have an
unlucky player too, But when you play sixty five plays
a game, it's not called unlucky. It's called wrong place,
wrong time. We got our ask kicked by somebody better.
Pretty simple, It's called pro sports. And in this case,
we're so used to the Astros being that team. Right
now they're just a team that's fortunate to be in

(07:47):
first place and damn that which is a huge which
may be as big a compliment as you can pay
them this year. So while we're talking out of one
side of our mouth saying where they are is unreal
considering all they've been through, But the other side of
it is if you're being realist. Issure doesn't look consistently
like a World Series team and the playoffs to me,
I don't mean this when people say, well, I'd just

(08:07):
soon go home if I'm not going to win the
World Series. No, you want to go to the playoffs.
Of course you do for the check, for everything else
and for pride and what you do as a pro.
They we don't look at them as that, but that's
who they are now, and of course you want to go.
But right now, the consistency tells me they're in no
danger of winning a World Series right now. And for

(08:28):
me looking at them, while the playoffs are important, it's
considering what they've been through this year. It is a
major success, there's no doubt. But none of us say
and they're not thinking this way either. They're not looking well,
we've been in We had a built in excuse. They
want to go win it. This is a tough competitive team.
But there is something missing from this squad. Whatever it

(08:49):
is you think it is. We all have our opinions
and we'll all voice them. Whatever it is. The inconsistency,
and quite frankly, maybe we've overrated some of the hitting
talent at times maybe the hitting talent's not as good
as it's been, and maybe, just maybe this is the
aberration season where they make the playoffs, go deep into

(09:10):
it or whatever on a crazy ass season like this
and foolest all but right now we know who they are,
but as far as the inconsistent, but we don't know
who they are. Are they the seven to one get
beat by the Yankees in your building? Or are they they
you know, go and and dominate the Red Sox and
Fenway parking a game? Who are they? When we have

(09:33):
to ask who they are one hundred and forty games
or whatever it is in guess who they are? They're They're,
They're They're They're a team that's really fortunate and is
and has got incredible resilience. But at some point in time,
performance is going to trump. I mean, the lack of
performance is going to beat out resilience and resilient teams.

(09:55):
Resilient teams that that aren't consistent we thumb them up
and say, man, wait a battle through it. That's like
saying the girl in the room that's not the hottest one,
she's got a great personality. You'll win, missus, She'll win,
Miss congeniality, but ain't nobody that they're not stay in
line to take her to the to the prom. This team,
hey man, it's good. You know, look what you've done

(10:16):
with what you've had. They don't think. I'm just talking
about our perception of it. But they'd have to do
a lot to go to run the gamut. I mean,
they're gonna have to change consistency because right now is
who they are. I don't I mean, have they won
seven eight in a row in a month and a
half two months? Yeah, So it's just who they are.
That doesn't make them that they're not good. They're not
a great team though, they're just not And they're a

(10:38):
very average hitting team. And you're done. One in the
lineup last night was we're facing the left hander? Right? Yeah,
Well that wasn't the reason. I don't but why because
you need to rest day off? Yeah yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Good.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
I guess I'm just a little different when it comes
to days off with twenty games to go and you're
trying to stay off a couple of teams and your
best players had more days off than any human beings
needed in a season for his legs. If you can't
go two days in a row? Why is it going one?
I mean he was available off the bench, but it

(11:15):
was what song? Why off the bench? What's the scheduled
day of rest for you guy? Who he shouldn't get
one more day unless it's sore, and it's not. Then
then he tells me it's not. I mean, it's sore.
It's not strong enough to go two days. And if
that's what you're telling me, if you're just that, that's
literally it's it's not strong enough for or I don't know,
whatever it is, the pain free enough to go two

(11:35):
days in a row, Is that's what it is? Or
three days in a row? I don't know this time
of the year. If he's healthy and he can have it,
why is he in the lineup? So it says just
every other way, well and the well kind of rest
does he need at this stage unless he's sore? Gota
get that? So is he sore after four swings? But
one swing he'd have been okay last night. Just if
he takes the second swing the second at bat, it

(11:56):
would have been too much for him. Is that? Is
that what you're saying? Why he was available as pain? Okay?
I'll never think like the current, the current landscape things.
And you'll never talk me into it. I'll listen. I say,
I know people need right I've heard it from pro baseball.
I get it at this stage of the game. If
you need rest, if he's hurting, I get it. If
he's hurting and can't damage memore, but he can still

(12:17):
swing the bat and at eighty five percent, he's been
the recip he's hurting and then got to play hurt,
injured and heard her two different things. But if it's
just tired, man, I got to get him rest. They
play a whole different sport than what I'm used to playing.
They just do. I understand rest will be well, you're
going to rest your way into second place if you're
not careful. It's just me, but I know everybody does it.

(12:39):
It's the whole. It's interesting. It's just it's the way
we do things. You're never going to convince me that
an everyday player shouldn't be playing one hundred and fifty
five days a year. You're never going to convince me
of that. It's I don't want to hear grueling. I
just don't. It's a long season. It's a long season.
Start flying start flying spirit airlines to your things and
playing every day. Then come see me, and then then
we'll talk about grueling. Okay, I know it's hard and

(13:02):
it is long. There's no doubt, and I'm being a
bit hyperbolic and facetious, right, I guess for me, it's
just I'd love my best player in the lineup every
day with the last twenty some games to go. If
he's hurting, then you should probably take two days off, right,
just to be sure. So if it's just one day,
one day, if this is preventative measures, then I just

(13:24):
I think it's not my hatred for Rest and all that.
I get it, But I don't know, man, two day
work weeks the equivalent of what. I just don't get it.
I just don't.

Speaker 7 (13:37):
Well, don't you worry, because there's a lot of other
things we don't get, including what happened in that fifth
inning between your starting pitcher and the catcher last night.
You're gonna hear from both of them here as well.
We'll have that for you. Roger Cee right there. You
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You just get and go in here on a Western

(13:59):
Wednesday Talk seven ninety Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Hello, haters from LA to New York.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Hanker up and kiss hour ass astros. Oh my goodness,
this is Sports Talk seven ninety Home of your Astros,
still twenty seventeen. Chaps out about it. Sean Salisbury Show
continues right now.

Speaker 7 (14:30):
If you listen to both Fromber and to last night's catcher,
Sasar Salazar, you might feel that way because let's just
say that maybe there's a little bit of interpretation.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
But we're getting ahead of ourselves here, all right.

Speaker 7 (14:41):
So the footage is out there, you can see it
all over social media, so I'll do my best to
try to quickly explain it. So right before the Trent
Grisham Grand Slam, you see Sasar Salas art Tel Fromber
with his right hand, as you'll see catchers every once
in a while, Hey, step off, let's regroup, do all
that kind of stuff. And Frombert didn't, and he threw
a pitch right down the middle, and Trent Grisham did

(15:04):
what most major league hitters do well. Then just a
pitch later, there is a proceived cross up. Fromber throws
a pitch that clearly was not called and it hits
Asar Salazar and immediately people start to think, here's Fromber
being Fromber, and we can lay out the past. I
don't know transgressions is the right word, but the past

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with Fromber here as we go along.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
But let's let you hear from them first.

Speaker 7 (15:31):
Let's start off first triplely with Fromber talking about the
decision to not step off, and then the cross up,
and of course it's translated by team translator.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Auto Lore does.

Speaker 10 (15:41):
A pitch that I wanted to throw. I called for
that pitch, so I wanted to throw that pitch for
I'm sure he was able to get it and hit
it for a grant Sam, and I was. I was,
you know, I was able to locate it. And afterwards
what happened with us, we just got crossed up. I
called for that pitch, I threw it, and we got
crossed up.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
I when we went down.

Speaker 10 (16:02):
To that, I excused myself with him and I said
sorry to him, and I take full responsibility for that.

Speaker 7 (16:08):
That pitch that he threw was a nearly ninety six
mile an hour sinker that was right down the middle.
So if that was the location he was looking for, well,
then I don't really want to know what it would
have been if he had missed. But in this case,
he didn't miss in neither of the Trent Grisham. All right,
there's that part. So now let's get to, you know,
the cross up itself. I mean, immediately when it happens

(16:31):
the internet, everybody starts to think, here's Fromber being Fromber.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
What did he have to say about it?

Speaker 1 (16:37):
No, it was not.

Speaker 10 (16:38):
I was nothigh intentional. I called from Sinker, and that's
a pitch I wanted. There was a lot of noise,
and I thought that was what he wanted to throw.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
But now it was not in sessional.

Speaker 7 (16:48):
Okay, so let's just say that we believe Fromber on
it not being intentional. That's all fine and good. What
about his catcher, What did he think about it? Saysar Salazar,
backing him up on it.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I guess me.

Speaker 11 (16:59):
And Fram actually have a really good relationship. We talked,
We've been talking for really for three years now, especially
to last year. We talked a lot too, and we
have a really good relationship.

Speaker 7 (17:11):
All right, So let's go ahead and end this at
this audio with Salazar saying that the cross up was
not on Fromber It was on him.

Speaker 11 (17:20):
Yeah, I mean here at the moment, obviously it was
a big it was a big spot for the Yankees.
It was the Satan was loud. I thought I pressed
a button, but I pressed the wrong button. I was
checking another pitch, but I it wasn't it. That wasn't it.
But I pressed I pressed the wrong button, and yeah,
that's where it was.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
All right, Sean. A couple of different things here.

Speaker 7 (17:40):
I think number one, Salazar to me, sounds like a
teammate who's trying.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
To counselor don't perjure yourself.

Speaker 7 (17:47):
Right, I mean that he's not trying to incriminate himself,
that he's not taking the fifth, but he's also doing
exactly that. But the other part of this, too, there's
too many examples of Frombard doing things that you also
don't believe that Oh it was just to see.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
I thought about this this.

Speaker 7 (18:06):
Morning, and the word miscommunication has been used, and I
don't know if it was used in any of those four.
That is honestly one of the most angering answers from people, Hey,
why'd you miss that piece of audio? Oh it was
a miscommunication, not saying it's.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
The easy one that you can't. It's like sound with
somebody telling you. You get on them and they give
you They tell you they were praying to the Lord,
or they were doing something religious, you know, and and
then when they they're doing you can't. Or somebody says
something that's controversial but they add God to it, you
can't criticize them because they're God fearing. You're not allowed
to criticize somebody. Oh, man, what are you talking about,

(18:41):
he said, went through this, or somebody who does something, Oh,
he tries to hitch on the sensitive mode in the
process of peeing in your face and tell you it's rain.
And you get my point with this situation, dan If,
I had no idea either had no idea the history
of it all and all you told it. I'm just
going by what listen to audio. And I'm not some

(19:01):
audio expert, but listening to audio. And he said, the
picture is a sup a supposed star and the catchers
your third stringth catcher. And he said, just listen to
the audio. That's all you told me. You can tell
me a history of the picture. And you know that
he wears a motion on his sleeve and you get

(19:22):
sideways sometimes, you know, I would have said, I said,
why is it? Why is the first one? Wes Salaz
are trying to convince me time and time again that
they're good buddies with a good relationship. I don't know
that was the question. Ours you guys friends? Or was
a question based on the question before I'd say, just
did you think it was intentional? I think was the question.
But he had to reemphasize that we're friends, we have

(19:42):
a good rover of friends. Was was it pitch intentional?
Were you guys frustrated with each other? What have you? Okay,
there's one. And then when it felt to me like
somebody said quarterback center exchange, it's the quarterback's fault, or
it's the center's fault. You take play, you make sure now,
so he went from loud, push the wrong button. But
their buddies and they boy, they communicate for three years,

(20:04):
they're friends. It felt to me like they tried too hard,
both of them, to over explain the situation and went
in doubt, you defer to the guy who's the left
handed ace on your staff, supposedly, and make sure, and
good on Salazar if it wasn't his fault to take blame,
and good on him if it was his fault to

(20:25):
take blame, and I admire anybody that's willing to do
that in sounds and just say, you know what, no
big deal. I can shoulder it, because I'm not sure
Fromber can shoulder the blame for this, meaning handle it
if he did do it on purpose, I'm not sure
that ass if we knew that they go, I'm not
sure he could handle the backlash of it for his game.

(20:48):
I think the fragility of the situation makes it protect
the picture. It's just my thought process. I don't know
if it happened here, but if I heard that in
any city, my first thought would be all that that
was we were here's how we're going to handle this.
Fit's the lesser of two evils approach is what it is.
There's no doubt so, and it's usually stands somewhere in

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the middle. I'm sure Farmer was irritated. I'm sure it
crossed his mind. I'm sure Salazar was pissed, like, we're
trying to get this thing going, and every time we
turn around, he's not paying it. I mean, he's doing
something well, everybody else is wearing green, he's wearing brown
when everybody's wearing blue. He decides he wants to wear red.
Farmer doing it his way because he kept emphasizing it's
what I wanted, just what I'm throwing this, how I'm

(21:32):
gonna do this right? Right? He's had that in the past,
hasn't he? Have we seen this before moving That's the
countless examples of the smoke. There's fire right last year
the Angels, Oh, he went off the game plan. Why
are you going off the game plan? Yeah? And if
you go off the game plan, make sure everybody knows.
I mean in your tone club, if you're going out
the game, plany break your t bates with you or
that everybody knows launched to do it. That's exactly right.

(21:55):
So for me, I just I, like I said, we're
just this is all speculation from us. We're just giving
a pity. I don't know what's fact. What is They
may be best buddies from or may not. It may
have been cross up, it may have been really loud,
they may not been able to hear and and Salazar
puts the wrong button. That's a lot of wrongs in
one for a pitch.

Speaker 7 (22:13):
But again, though the speculation, I just I think there's
way too much evidence against fromber to believe that this
is speculation.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
There's also way too much damn explanation by them telling
me why it's loud in there. What does that have
to do with you throwing a pitch. Hey, here's simply
this too. So simply this too. And you always have
a backup plane. If that thing goes out, you go
back to normal signals, whatever it is. If you didn't hear,
point to your ear, yeah, point, I can't bold, hands up,
I can't hear you. Give me a time out, come
out and visit the mountain. This is too important. I

(22:44):
just for me, when you try to over explain anything,
you're you're not explaining anything, or you're basically telling us everything.
It's either way, and so for me misdirect and deceive.
I just listen. I have no idea from my vantage point.
Everybody in the world's going to give opinion. They may this,
may it may just have been all that. But I

(23:05):
when when you try to convince me, just how all
that is the reason why, man, all this and we're friends,
and yeah it's on me it wasn't. I mean, yeah,
that's how it turned out. Listen to the way Salads
are Club. Yeah, it was that hit. The salads are one,
the last one you played again about this hit, just
kind of you're just listening to this and you say, Okay,

(23:26):
I'm trying to figure out let me read between the
lines and maybe I mean go ahead, sorry, yeah.

Speaker 11 (23:31):
I mean here at the moment, obviously, it was a
big it was a big spot for the Yankees. It
was the Satan was loud. I thought I pressed a button,
but I pressed the wrong button. I was checking another page,
but it wasn't it. That wasn't it. But I pressed
I pressed the wrong button, And yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, let me try this one. That's what I'm not saying.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know says
our salas are from Adam. I'm sure he's a good dude.
I just away push your own butt. Oh yeah, I
push your own button. Then Uh yeah, yeah, that's what
that's what it was.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Like.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
I'm trambled around to find something to tell you. That's
the one I was going to tell you.

Speaker 7 (24:06):
We're not done here because it just dawned on me something.
So I do want to get into it even more
because it's.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Just I'm not a lip reader. I've got an audio
breakdown guy. I don't think it takes a genius to
figure this one out.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
There's there's so much more and I think we just
uncovered something right there, and we'll have that for you.
Roger John will also get involved in the conversation. You
want to join those guys seven one three two one
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Speaker 2 (24:37):
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Speaker 4 (26:08):
The Sean Salisbury show continued.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
All right, they both were on the same page about Hey,
it was loud in here, you know it was. It
was really tough to hear all those different things. But
the part that I think starts to break this story,
and again, like you said, you over explain, you're not
explaining anything, is saysar Salazar, I hit the wrong button
what like in that case, then then you call time

(26:34):
you do something like That's the part to me, like
where it's just like, dude, I get what you're doing.
I understand like that he's got more skins in the
game here, and he's had more time, seniority, all that
kind of stuff the baseball level, and you're not trying
to step on the wrong toes.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
I get that.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
But like again, you also have the benefit of the
doubt on your side that I pointed out last year
against the Angels, Oh fromber went off the game plan.
All right, fine, can be a little emotional. We get
it this year. Remember at the time, I said, I
don't think it's necessarily about the defensive alignment.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I think he was annoyed with how it played out.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
But I think he was probably more annoyed with his
with his teammates of not giving him any run support,
which you go after your teammates, then you lose out
on a lot more guys than just if you upset
some of the coaches.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Coaches can get over it. And then last night, this
is Fromber.

Speaker 7 (27:24):
This is all Fromber, all of it, and it's a
one hundred percent of reasons, Sean why Astros fans have
had it with them.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
They're done.

Speaker 7 (27:32):
We appreciate twenty twenty two, but again, Seysar Salazar, appreciate
you being a good soldier here, but you don't need
to be man because this is one hundred percent on
Fromber and it was intentional because he was emotional and
he got angry.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well, Jeff fry Along played Major League baseball for quite
some time on Twitter, says BS. They've shown those two
standing together in the clip, the video clip, and he's
saying he's lying through his teeth. He knows he blanked
up and wants to go wants it to go away.
His body language and facial expression tells you everything you
need to know. There's no excuse for what he did,
and he's lucky he did that to a rookie. Although

(28:07):
we don't consider sound as our rookie. I don't think
it was wise, but I think, yeah, young player who's
afraid to retaliate, he said, throwing uh, you know, a
Rick dempsere of Mike Piazza, and that probably would into
our alliance Paris type of guy. He said, he'd be
picking his teeth up off the ground right now. But
Aj Prazinski back there, Yeah, exactly. So I don't know,

(28:30):
but I can tell you this. It was, Uh, it was.
I don't know. I'm just not buying the full story.
I'm just not It's not is it in the life
scheme of things that that big a deal? Know, but
they're gonna make it a big deal by overemphasis over
friends or friends with friends. You know, I pushed the
wrong button. There was time out if you push the
wrong button and you couldn't hear, and it's the Yankees.

(28:52):
May I suggest the time look back to the umpire
go use one. These games are too valuable and one.
Don't tell me one pitch doesn't make a difference. Did
he miss the spot on the Grand Slam? Yeah he did?
Huh so that he probably.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
So?

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Look what two pitches?

Speaker 8 (29:10):
Look?

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Look what two pitches? What we're talking about? Today. What
I am talking about the Yankees beat him seven to
one and took curb stopped him. Is his seven to one.
We're talking about two things. To throw one right down
that you know what if it was no FCC rules,
I'll give you a great explanation of what we call it. Secondly,
is the cross up I'm talking about. There's a layer

(29:32):
of things. Couldn't hear, pushed the wrong button, didn't call
time out, didn't go out. I get okay, let's just
let's say so that's the pitch and hope thing just
to throw. Oh and by the way, he don't be
pushed the wrong button. He pushed one of a pitch
he didn't want, so did shake that off. I don't
know who what's going but I can tell you what

(29:53):
we don't do light detectors in the dugout this is
And like I said, is it that big a deal? Though?
The truth is, I just don't understand. Way to answered, listen,
got crossed up? Little loud? Yeah, I was irritated. Here's
a pitch I want to throw you one. We were
on the wrong page together and on the home run,
I didn't locate what I wanted to do and it
got us beat. I gotta get better and we got
to communicate more. And as Salazar puts the wrong button.

(30:17):
Did you see his reaction the second the ball hit
him in his crouch He was passed, dude, he didn't
know his head, didn't even look where the ball went.
His head turned around and snapped back and Fromber as
if to say, and he pounched out of it, as
if to say, watch him. Head snaps back, He looks
at him, stays in his stance like are you out
of your MF and mind? And Fromber turned his back
to home plate and walked towards center field. BS. Nobody's

(30:38):
gonna sugarcoat this crap. We've done it enough. Okay, we've
done it enough. The guy's got what five ten starts left,
whatever it is here in a Yankee or a he
may be in a Yankee uniform, in an Astros uniform,
and then he's gonna move on and go get bigger
money and they can deal with it. Supreme talent, supreme stuff. Uh,

(30:58):
nowhere near supreme mental and emotional approach to being a
top line pitcher in the league. Consistently, Stuff's as good
as it gets. But I can find I can find
four hundred pitchers in baseball that are tougher, okay, far
far inferior stuff. There's no question, there's no question. I
don't care how mad. All of this is the for you. No,

(31:19):
I got news for you. That's that you can't run
him out there first either in the postseason, because I'm
not sure which if you get the good fromber if
and if my ant head ball, she'd be my uncle's
I say all the time. Yeah, all you got to
do is forget the forget the press conference, and just
look at the reaction. If he pushed the wrong button,
then why was his reaction. Why didn't he start, say, man,
pop out behind home plate after he did it, after

(31:41):
the ball back, my bad dude, step out in front
of home plate, look at his picture, go that's all
me and pound his chest like they normally would. What
is it? What does the catcher do when he's pissed
at a picture when the guys taking too much? I
throw him four or five six ead balls row, He
catches it and he rips it back to the picture
as if get your ass in the game, and he did, Yes,
you go back to the picture like Sean Dunster or Korea,

(32:02):
throw it to first base, you rip it back to him,
saying you better get you. That's a subtle way that
the benches and the lance parishes and those guys, that
was a subtle way of saying, I'm not walking out there,
but I'm gonna throw this ball. You've thrown seven straight
balls nowhere near the strike zone. Get your mind. That's
the like you did with your when your dad would

(32:22):
throw it to you and you were young, and you go.
Eventually you got frustrated because he'd make you. You'd keep
playing and playing, keep it out an extra ten minutes,
and then you'd whip one back or your buddy when
you're playing pepper, I mean pickle right boom or just
you know, we used to play this game where you'd
stand twenty five yards apart and then twenty yards apart,
and you just start throwing fastballs that you know whether
you're a catch and seeing if you could catch them right,
and your buddy then he'd ramp it up. Oh you

(32:44):
got that, bam, then your chest pass would be a
little harder. Right, you step out there. This is this
is You can't even put cologne on this crap. You
just can't on this. It's posts press conference. You need
to see nothing or hear nothing Fromber. Turn and walk away.
It's like your dog when you'll give him a treat,

(33:04):
and turns and walks away from him. Turns his head Fromber,
turn his back completely to the catcher, and walk towards centerfield,
as if to say, don't say a word to me.
The catcher pops at it. First of all, before he
pops out stance, he turns and looks at him like,
tell's your problem, thank you? So if he knew he
called the wrong pitch, see he doesn't add up. I'm
giving you that. This is criminal mind stuff. Okay, we're

(33:26):
we'reing the bau right now. Okay, if it doesn't add up.
If you knew you gave the wrong pitch, why weren't
you looking for the cross up? Well, why weren't you
looking off If you knew you gave the wrong pitch,
why weren't you looking fastball? That's actually the best point
of all. He gave the wrong pitch. Why are you
looking off speed? Then you knew I gave the wrong pitch.

(33:48):
Oh so if you was, if you were you looking
off speed? He threw hard cheese and you. And then
why after that, why didn't you turn and get the
ball right? Why did you turn around, sit in your stand,
snap your head back to the picture, and why is
he turn and walk away? He would have turned and
walked away if you knew it was miscommunication. He would
have walked to the front of the mound and say, hey, man,

(34:08):
come out here, let's talk about this miscommunication. He turned
his back as if to say, don't ever do that
to me again. You can sugarcoat this crap all you want.
It ain't flying with me, brother. And now that I've
re seen this on the on on television to highlight
the response by the picture and Catcher needed no explanation,

(34:29):
none missed this spot. Save it, okay, save it? And
this this uh, they better get back to that quote
unquote strong clubhouse that you better nip this in the
bud quickly because they're not good enough to overcome this
if they allowed that's exactly right. You don't need this one, right,

(34:50):
he said, you know what, just get out in front
and say, you know what, yas pissed. I made a mistake.
I apologize to each other and move on instead of this.
Now we're gonna watch the watch the video. There's not
one thing that tells you crossed up. And if I
crossed up my pitcher, why was I looking off speed?
If I called the wrong pitch, why was I looking

(35:12):
off speed? This is cover the star, take the.

Speaker 7 (35:14):
Blame and move on, period and miss me today with
the You know you guys are making too big of
a deal of this. If I hear that, I'm going
to lose my mind.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Well, seven to one loss to the end and three
of your last four, and we may be making a
big deal. They may be great playing baseball, which in
that case subpar baseball.

Speaker 7 (35:32):
Maybe I'm just a tough grader. Like Brian Kelly said
about Dabo Sweeney yesterday, I also know this. Yeah, I
also know this. If if we're making a big deal
of it, I'm not sure. I guess then why were
you making such a big deal of of one loss?

Speaker 12 (35:46):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
From I guess one loss and that big a deal.
We can approach it that way too, Yeah, didn't make it,
But one pit sure made a difference, and then a
second one did. So Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm not. You
can convince me how you want. There's no wait, come
on here and tell me any different.

Speaker 7 (36:02):
Well, you all out there make the show too, So
we want to get you involved. Roger John Mark, see
you guys right there, you want to join them? A
couple of spots open for you seven one three two
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two five seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Let the celebration start, or Sean Salisbury, the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Roger gonna get us going this morning.

Speaker 13 (36:28):
Woh, good morning, Good morning guys. Yeah, there's a couple
of things that are gonna have to get fixed, and
I'm not sure if they're gonna be able to, uh
order for us to move forward in the playoffs, if
we even make the playoffs, I'm not even sure that
that's on the table, just because the way this Ejeculate
High team is operating. Uh, the one thing is promper. Uh. Yeah,

(36:51):
he's already got a rap sheet. He's got a rap sheet.
I'm sorry, man, he's got it, you know, and uh
in the criminal where the criminal world, he's got to
he's gonna wrap. He's got mo o, he's got a
jacket on him.

Speaker 9 (37:03):
Man.

Speaker 13 (37:04):
He's in a short series just like last year. And
I wanted Kakuchi. I want Kakuci to go second. I
just didn't thot Farmber was in his headspace. I kind
of wanted to go with a change up in Kakuchi.
I think Jason Alexander should be moved over and promoted
to the second starter. And if if, if Javier and

(37:27):
and Garcia continued to progress, and we can go ahead
and and and make another decision then, but right now,
I think Alexander is the.

Speaker 8 (37:35):
Second starter at the playoffs for at the end of
the day. Also the rest of your right, Sean, the
rest with the jord On with jord On, either he
played or he can't play, just you know, stop, you know,
tear the bandage off already. Let's let's let's see what
you know, see what we've got. He can't keep the
training wheels on this guy. It's just not going to

(37:55):
work right, you know. He just let the guy play,
let him progress, let him get his act so he
can get into a rhythm and and and so he
can help us out. Man. And uh.

Speaker 13 (38:05):
Another another thing is, you know, I don't understand how
these guys. You know, it's a big series, the big
time moment, big time you know, it's the hated rival,
and then you just go out and you you know,
you just I understand the proper issue. That's that's aside
from the farper issue. Guys, guy's gotta want to God's

(38:28):
gotta want to step it up. Man, Guy's gotta want
to step it up and say, hey, you know it's
time to go. I don't see that from this team
this year that as of yet, you know, I see
a good team, Like you said, I don't.

Speaker 8 (38:39):
See a great one.

Speaker 9 (38:41):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (38:41):
And I really hope that changes, man.

Speaker 8 (38:43):
Uh, you know, man, and just think.

Speaker 13 (38:45):
About just about think about this regular guy Joe Bamm
park port of the stadium, go to the park taking
his kids. You know, he's say all months to do this,
and then you gotta weick you whap job on.

Speaker 8 (38:58):
The mount of you know, takes the experience away.

Speaker 13 (39:01):
Think about it that way.

Speaker 7 (39:02):
Hey, yeah, appreciate Roder, Thanks Bud. Yeah, I mean the
last part right there. I think that you can pretty
much tell that this team has lost their edge from
the beginning of the season. You're getting defensive mistakes. Last night,
I mean, that double off of Mauricio Dubont at first
base was a disgrace, Like where are you running?

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Where are you going? Seriously, where are you talking about
when they doubled him up. Yeah on the butts, like,
where are you going? This is a very very and
I'm being kind, and this is you know what it's.
It's when it happens once. Okay, it happens twice, you say,
I understand, happens a third time. It's a trend. It's
happened three hundred times. You're just not good at it.

(39:44):
This team's a poor base running team. They're not average,
They're poor. They're poor. They're they're they're they're just they
just don't know how to run the bases. Now that
doesn't mean that payin you can't get down first base fat,
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the ins
and outs of running bases. Were a guy that's a
slower than I'm not even talking about Painty, but lots
slower than Dubond. They get it. This team, there's always something.

(40:06):
I don't know if it's gonna affect him down the road,
and it has, but you know what, I don't know
if it's going to hit him in a playoff game
or single elimination. But my gut tells me. You know
how we talk about a rookie the ball finds you somehow,
some way in a game that's going to matter. They're
gonna get doubled off or do something. And it's happened before,
but do something on the basis that is elementary school

(40:28):
Minor League, sixth grade, Swiftly Pennsylvania Little League. They're going
to pull that off and then they're gonna they're gonna
lose a game because of it. With all the good
that they have and with a season that's been quite fascinating,
this team will never be considered the way it's that
we're not looking. A matter of fact, you don't even
talk about base running when you talk about this team

(40:49):
ever in a good way. You don't, you know, it's
one of the It's like the detour you just avoid
is I don't want to talk about it because if
you talk about it will come to fruition. That's their
base running is a bysmal well.

Speaker 7 (41:00):
And the frustrating part of it is that your base
running is abysmal. And then you can talk about all
the fielding improvements and all of those things. You don't
stop other teams from taking extra bases. They seemingly take
extra bases on you in mossue.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Like shooting fish in a barrel. Dude, I've never done
it before, but it seems easy. I like that part
of your saying it is my favorite. I mean, shooting
fish in barrel is one thing, but I honestly have
never done it. I've looked at a barrel and said,
met if it's loaded with fish, how am I going
to miss? But it seems easy, damn. And it's running
the bases. When you get on it's a double, and

(41:33):
it chance it is a it is a full fledged
double most of the time. When you get on first
base anyway, you're you're standing on second. Most as a
matter of fact, you got a better chance of stealing
second base on them than you do of allowing somebody
to better chance of stealing and getting a second base
than you do. Your chance you'll hit into a double
play more than you'll get thrown out at second base
far more. I don't know if the percentage is bear

(41:54):
it out, but to my naked eye, I'd rather take
my chance you're throwing me out. Well, you can't make
the last out against the Astros. You can make the
last app standing on base in a runners You know why,
because well, my odds are pretty damn good that I'm
going to swipe that base well and based running and
the ability to stop it is is in there in

(42:17):
first place. All the stuff we're talking about in there
in first place.

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Speaker 2 (44:36):
Mariners and the.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
Rangers both fall in their games, So Seattle still three
games back at the Strows in the West and the
Rangers four and a half back. The Texans back on
the practice field getting ready for the Rams on Sunday.
But fromber Cesar Salazar, the Astros, everybody in between, that's
the topic of conversation right now.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
I know a lot of you want to weigh in
on it.

Speaker 7 (44:57):
So John on the Northwest side here in the seventh
talk our good morning, Hey.

Speaker 8 (45:02):
Good morning guys.

Speaker 15 (45:03):
Yeah, you know, I think everything that's been said so
far this morning, including your previous caller, I mean, I
think everything's.

Speaker 8 (45:09):
Been spot on.

Speaker 9 (45:10):
And what really concerns me.

Speaker 15 (45:13):
Right now is the Ashers. I just never seen the
Astros like this. They don't seem like a team, you know,
They're like a bunch of individuals right now. I mean
the way they you know, pull together and it's it's
all about the team and stuff.

Speaker 8 (45:25):
I'm just not sensing that right now.

Speaker 15 (45:28):
And and I agree, I don't know what Jordan was
doing on the bench. I mean, you've got to identify,
you know that the nine players you're going to go
with and play them. I mean, you're in the stretch run.
You got what magic number twenty and you've got to
And it's it's really concerning too that you're having things
like science getting crossed up and things like that. I mean,

(45:50):
that's stuff that happens maybe early in the season, but
not now. And I understand they've been shuttling players and stuff,
but still there needs there just doesn't seem to be.

Speaker 8 (45:58):
Communication going on. There's something going on.

Speaker 15 (46:00):
I don't know if the problem's a little bit higher
or not, I don't know, but I just think that
I don't know, they're just not together. They're just not
and you know, blowing signs and stuff like that. When
you're in your stretch run.

Speaker 8 (46:13):
You can't have this. You just can't. And anyways, that's
what I wanted to weigh in on. Thanks guys.

Speaker 7 (46:19):
I appreciate it, so, I mean, and we always hear
and you've mentioned it before about the strong clubhouse, Well,
then the clubhouse needs to be even stronger right now,
Sean like for stuff like this. I mean, I've said
it numerous times and people misconstrue it as me saying
that I want a team meeting.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
No, that's not what I want.

Speaker 7 (46:38):
I want after continuously letting your team down at the
plate where I don't need to hear from the starting pitcher.
I don't even need to hear from the manager. I
need every single one of those guys in the middle
of the order to be in front of their locker,
accountable and talking about it and saying, you know what, Yeah,
I am letting the team down right now, runners in
scoring position. I can't take strike three, that's unacceptable. Things

(47:02):
like that.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
I back to you know, Roger, and you know my
feelings on too much rest and Roger's day, Roger talking
about it in John, can you plead and you I'm
gonna I'm gonna approach this like since an amateur hour. Okay,
just for a second here. I know nothing about sports.

(47:26):
I'm new in this. I just walked in today and
I'm asking you why is he's the best player? Is
he healthy? Is he healthy? And your answer, your answer
would be, we assume so he's playing on the major
league level right after one hundred games missed. I think
it was one hundred hundred days, a hundred games somewhere
in there. I think it was. I know it was

(47:46):
over one hundred. It was one hundred days or more.
In the neighborhood, it was in the ballpark. It was
a long time. Yes, three months for sure. And I
you say, well he had a hand as well. Is
he healthy? Yeah? Is that so damage vy? He's healthy?
Oh uh uh? His legs okay, yeah, he said one

(48:08):
hundred games where his legs got underneath Me's fine. I
understand the risk. And the wrist and the thumb and
the hand. It all worked together, and there's torque. So
two days in a row, you can't do that. That's
what I'm asking. I'm approaching it. Why is he resting?
Why don't tell me he's tired? I do not, not you,

(48:32):
not Dana, not mister Crane, not me, not you, not
any of us. Don't tell me he's tired. So why
is he not played? Just just the next point? Why
is he not playing every day? With twenty games to
go and you're in a and you're in a you're
in a heated battle to win this division, get the plus?
Why is he not playing? When I was told a
week ago that or two weeks ago and last week

(48:56):
that the the the their success basically hinged on him
in the lineup, and what it would do to change
the light and We've seen it fro the Petman Christian Walker,
and we saw it right off the bat last week
on deck circle pinching. But why if he's available to
pinch it, why is he not available to play? I'm
usually resting guys when they're injured or they are they've

(49:22):
played twenty five games in a row, and we had
a night game and followed by a day game. Now
rest and we're up. We're up three games. It's let's
give him day off. I even hate those. But that's
that's neither here nor there. Why is he not playing?
But you told me is available to pinch it, so
he can. He can give me one back, can't give
me four. I'm not saying whose fault is, And I'm

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not trying to be a prick about this. I'm actually
trying to figure out why is he not playing? I
don't know? Are we is this is this team that comfortable?
Are we this good that you can just play him
once every just give a play him, rest in play
and rested. Can we do that? Is this team good
enough to do?

Speaker 8 (49:59):
That?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Doesn't seem like it. I just I don't get it.
I hear it. Listen, you can give me all the
stuff you want, Oshan, Yeah, I know baseball about it,
and I know I've talked of far better athletes than
I have, and better baseball players that played it for
fifteen years that are buddies of mine, were that are
wearing that jacket in the Hall of Fame. That talk
about rest is is it an old school or a

(50:21):
new school thing? New School's just taught it different and
now we're throw the players. There's plenty of tough players
now that could have played back then and could have
played every day. Okay, I believe that one d percent.
It's the way we just kind of forced stuff on. Well,
you're taking it, no, I'm not. Yeah you are, Okay,
you are. But if I'm feeling good and energetic, why
am i taking a day off? It's going to be

(50:42):
in my crawl forever, dude, And I don't care. I know,
I get it. And my guy Mike Cameron and I
had talked about it. Who's a long time placed player.
It's just different. But you didn't have an option back then.
I don't know why Kenny is it not built up
his hand, wrist, thumb. I mean, it seems like he's
swinging the back pretty quickly. Through his z owned. I mean,

(51:03):
you know, he's doing some things. His home run looked
like it was okay. Is this is this you said?
Maybe this is a better question. Is this preventative for him?
Or is it he just can't The threshold of pain
to go every day is too much? Are they just
preventive because they're worried? Well, we don't want it to
be hurt. In the playoffs, well i'd be careful. You
may not get in if even three games, we'd be careful.

(51:25):
So why isn't he playing every day? I've got the
answer for you, turf toe can't run, can't play every day,
can't put your foot down, pick it up, put your
foot down, get it in the dirt and swing the bat.
I get it, Hammy, I get it. I understand the
risk too. But if the risk is that bad, why
is he playing at all? If it's not that bad,
why is he not playing every day?

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Now?

Speaker 2 (51:44):
If you said, Sean, he played one hundred and forty
at one hundred and forty two games, they get it.
He can't be tired, he can't be injured, or he
wouldn't be in the lineup once in a while and
available to pinch it if he's hurt a little bit,
but it's just part of fighting through, you know what.
Everybody at this stage the season's tired, worn out. It's

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in every sport. So again, to explain to me why
he's not playing. I don't care what the matchup is.
I don't care if he's struck up seventy four times
in a row against the guy they're facing tonight. I
don't care because the seventy fifth time ends up in
the upper tank. I'm good with it. There are certain
guys you don't pinch hit for. You don't worry about matchups.

(52:26):
You put him in the lineup, but you stick them
in the two hole and you just go, he's it.
Why is he not playing? This team's not good enough
at the plate on a daily basis to have the
luxury to say we still got with twenty games to go,
I'm gonna give guys five days off. No, I'm sorry.
And the ball ain't that heavy. Yeah, it's not a

(52:48):
baseball football though, tough, macho thing. The fact of the
matter is plenty of baseball players feel the same way
I do.

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Speaker 2 (55:43):
They're four and a half games back.

Speaker 7 (55:44):
Like I said, I know a lot of you want
to get in on the conversation, so let's go rapid
fire right here.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Mark and Beaumont gets us going.

Speaker 8 (55:51):
Mark, good morning, Hey, good morning guys. Three quick things.
I know you got a lot of guys online.

Speaker 16 (55:57):
First of all, everybody knows that fram crossed Salazar up
on purpose. Everybody knows that they know it. You can
see it in everybody's reactions. I don't think there's any
argument there, which leads my next point to interpret those
postgame interviews is a complete waste of time because those
guys are playing the game. Frambur can't come out and say, yeah,

(56:18):
I was pissed off and so yeah, I just took
it out on him. And Salazar can't come out and
say what he wants to say, which is Frambur's an
unstable space case. And you know, and I didn't appreciate that.
I can't say that.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Yeah, they collect they got to protect the star and
the brand, right, that's what they got to do. Protect
the locker room. Yeah, the locker room. And you're not
going to learn anything from it, yes, yes.

Speaker 16 (56:40):
And then and then the third thing is, and this
is the real thing that hadn't been touched on. Put
yourself in a GM out there somewhere thinking about making
Frambur an offer in the off season, because you know,
the Astros aren't bringing back even before tonight. Astros just
don't pay out. He's gone. We know that.

Speaker 8 (57:00):
Don't pretend they will, but they won't. How is this
going to affect his marketability?

Speaker 16 (57:05):
I mean, if I'm a gem and I see this,
this is inexcuseable. This guy's a cancer. Appreciate What do
you think? What do you think that's gonna what's good,
what's gonna happen there?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Yeah, I appreciate the call.

Speaker 17 (57:16):
Mark.

Speaker 7 (57:16):
I mean, as I said to Trevor on on Twitter,
I mean he is an ace with his stuff, and
I mean we have seen just how effective and how
good he can be. But it's this part of it,
Sean that if to Mark's point right there, I'm giving
him no more than.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Two or three years. If I'm another.

Speaker 7 (57:36):
Team, you want to give that guy five six years
and make him comfortable.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
You want to do that. Good luck if you do. No,
but he's going to get paid. And den Mark's right
spot on with his comments, and then you when you
talk about would you give I'm not giving him six
years anyway. I have a hard time giving that much
money for pitch. I mean, that's hard to do because
the fluctuation or injury possibility. It's hard to do. But
he's a premium left hander. He's gonna get paid because

(58:01):
I can tell you this in sports what the tempted
every GM thinks I can fix him, and every manager
every Yeah, there's no doubt. Talent always trumps the headache.
They just does. And then you find out about two
or three years in damn, I'm sure, glad I didn't
do it, or if you do it too long, you're like, boy,
he's ran his course here, he's there's just a there's

(58:23):
this sense of detachment. It feels like for me in him,
I'm not paying him thirty million dollars a year for
five years. You're kidding me. I understand he's not stiffing
it and he's not sniffing it here.

Speaker 7 (58:33):
The name that comes to mind, I mean Mike Mayott
got fired for going and getting Antonio Brown.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
He got fired for it. Yeah, Now, one's a little
there's there's a difference in there off the field approach.
That's a fact. Well right, yeah, yeah, yeah, so but
as far as just you got to ask yourself as
the headache and the emotions bigger. But when you see
something like that, will there be a gentleman say yeah, man,
I can't believe he did that, but I know well

(59:00):
he won't do it with us. Of course. That's how
that's how they it's talent. It's a chance to save
in a manager's job because he can get you. They're
all thinking about what can this do for our team?
Everybody thinks they can fix the attitude when somebody's got
stuff and talent, they'll get hall pass after hall pass
from Bravaldes is a supreme talent physically and an emotional

(59:21):
sideways guy, and which when you combine them both, it's,
oh my gosh, wow, what a talent. Oh my gosh wow.
The only way this guy ever lives up to the
fullest potential is if he gets out of his own
way and somebody else is sitting in his head and
controls his emotions, which you can't do, which a lot
of times they fall short where you want to get

(59:43):
because the emotional wreck part of it is far bigger
than the talent. And that's saying something with this talent,
with that kid, with with the way he throws, you
better not have him.

Speaker 7 (59:55):
And in the a spot where you've got a must
win game, because we've seen how that goes.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
As I've said, if you had plenty of rest and
it was a one game elimination and you had to
choose between him Hunter Brown, Hunter Brown, it's not even close.
It's not close. Not I'm not saying the stuff I'm
coming about the overall makeup. You almost get Brown. For
me to say that, we always talk about the makeup
of a picture.

Speaker 7 (01:00:17):
I was just waiting for you to say a name,
because it's almost anybody else's name at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
So I'm not counting on him. He's gonna go get paid.
He'll get rewarded and get paid because he's really, really talented.
But if you're asking me if I trust him when
things get sideways, no, And most of his problems are
self inflicted problems.

Speaker 7 (01:00:32):
Yeah, no, and we've got As Roger pointed out, the
rap sheet is long.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Brad wants to wain in. Brad. Good morning, Hey, good
morning guys.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Thanks taking the call real quick. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
They're gonna take him. Somebody will take him. Twenty nine
teams will take you.

Speaker 8 (01:00:49):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
The other guys will get fired for not taking it.
So it's it's it's the diva. It's the same thing
with the wide receivers. Nobody wants them, but they take
him thinking they can pick them. Sean on your point, we're,
you know, bad base running team. I'm gonna go a
little bit of I guess you on that. You know,
if we make the base, we score the run.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
We're aggressive. Yeah, but they but they but they didn't.
And this is how many times? How many times have
they been through this. How many times have we come
on here and said, once again, now I'm not talking
about the hustle that pain you puts on. There is
something missing on the bay. You cannot call them a
good base running team. If you do, you're you're a
smarter baseball guy than that, and you know that they're

(01:01:28):
not a great.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Base running a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I just like the banner, Well, I see that stuff
on TV with these guys that don't that are that
are that are talking out their ass I don't know
other talking about you. You know better than that, and
you can banter's fine, but don't just choose the side
to get your ass kicked. Okay, you don't want to
choose the side to take. You don't want to choose
the side to take a baseball ass whooping, my man.
But I'm with you. You know, damn well, you know

(01:01:50):
damn well, you know damn well, you know damn well,
they're not gonna you're You're not putting them at the
top of any category when it comes to running bases.
You and I both know that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
You know I totally agree, I totally agree, but but
at hindsight too. Once again, back to my point, two.
On the other thing we talked about years ago. When
that ball leaves that hand, they know where it's going.
I don't care what you say. The only thing I
would like to have seen is Korea come out of
that position or at al tuve.

Speaker 8 (01:02:17):
And climb in his tail.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Agreed.

Speaker 8 (01:02:19):
Do you know what?

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Yeah, they've done it before when he was struggling. Amen,
what was a game tournament into game seven in the
player on the World Series.

Speaker 8 (01:02:28):
I mean, if you're gonna do it, then you could
do it now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Yeah, he needs he's one of those guys instead of
an arm around him once a while, but he needs
a swift kick in the ass once in a while.
And you're one hundred percent correct.

Speaker 8 (01:02:38):
He is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
See, he likes to matter. I like good better with
him too, but can't win that better because he prad
knows it. They try to get back go coming, well
they're better base. No, he knows they're not. The key
is to stay out of those And he's right though
when when he do do it, it's aggressive. The problem
is they didn't and we've seen the movie before. But
he's right. If it's it's great aggressive base running to
send him around, you've got a good jump off for

(01:02:59):
you all those things, but unfortunately it's going to cost
them in a bigger game if they're not careful.

Speaker 7 (01:03:04):
Well, I mean, it's it's compounded with the oh, we've
got a couple of runners on here, all right, Hey,
let's lay down a bunt down six to one and
then have somebody who for whatever reason decides to be
almost halfway to second base and it gets doubled up
at first base, or yeah, hey you got to lead
off walking in a guy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
On first base.

Speaker 7 (01:03:21):
Man, it would be really nice to be able to
move those guys over. The best I can do is
a roll over to third base for a double play. Here, team,
this team just doesn't do the little things right. And
they did at the beginning of the season, and they're
not doing it now. And I just you asked the
question earlier about do you trust this team to go
on a long winning streak or a long losing streak.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
My answer is very simple.

Speaker 7 (01:03:42):
It's the ladder because I I thought that Sunday could
have possibly unlocked something for this team and last night,
but the fast many times you've said that, though, but
Max Freed's really good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
I understand all of that. Of course, he is, but
you went.

Speaker 7 (01:03:55):
Exactly back to what you've been doing, the aggressive when
you're not to be aggressive, expanding the zone, swinging at
their pitches, trying to do too much with a pitch
that you're supposed to try to take the right field
and doing exactly that, rolling over to third base or
shortstop for a week ground ball.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Let's say, give me one word to describe the team.
What are you saying? Frustrating? Okay, beyond belief. Give me
a second one, frustrating, annoying, okay, give me a third one. Inconsistent.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
There you go, consistently, inconsistent. I'll give you two hyphenated.
How many of those are you saying?

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Dominant team? I mean that's okay, and can they go
win it?

Speaker 8 (01:04:31):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
I'm optimistic dominance like tenth on the list right, I'm
way down there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
I'm a I'm optimistic that it can go. You know
that they're talented enough. I just don't think this year
they're good enough. There's a difference, and I can live
with them. They're protectively fine. We're not productive enough. But
when you see stuff like this, you get beat by
the Yankees in your building, and you see stuff with
the pitcher catcher. That happened like this. That's why people

(01:04:56):
are making a bigger deal. To make a big deal.
If they'd have won seven to one, we'd say, man,
what's going on with this? Get this thing fixed? And
you might have got a different answer. You might have
got a different answer. So but it's all heightened. And yes,
six games from now, we may not even say anything
about it. But I don't know what's festering between those two.
But I can tell you this. If you think it
was just a miss signal, go watch the video the
reaction of both the ketcher and pitcher. It's plain as

(01:05:19):
day that they were that. That one was pissed and
the other thought, he's stowing it because you don't say
I hit the wrong button. If you've picked the wrong pitch,
then why weren't you looking fastball? If you pitched, he
was obviously thinking off speed correct that was the wrong button.
So if you know that's wrong button, what should you
be looking? Just be looking for the pitch that you
pitched that you hit the wrong button. Okay, so then

(01:05:40):
we'll hear it too. Then why wasn't he catching? Then
why wasn't he set up for fastball? Because he actually
didn't think that he was going to That's why the
answers bs among other things. Robert turns his back, the
Ketcher snaps his head back at him like while he's
at his stance, like, what are you about of your
ever loving mind? Yeah, But the bottom line, when it
gets all down to it, team right now has got

(01:06:01):
to fix their dal Jones approach or it's it's it's
not going to be the type of postseason we want here, Carl.

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Speaker 18 (01:07:55):
Yes, I like Sean's approach. Basically, when you go to
the NFL in camp first day, you know, you think
you're a big star and everything, but they go brought
back to your little league football fundamentals one oh one.
They want to see what you know from the beginning
to the end. This coach needs to teach basic fundamentals

(01:08:16):
of base running and how to go out to play,
you know, hit and runs. You know, we don't have
any hand.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
On the pulse.

Speaker 18 (01:08:27):
The coach needs to be in that game twenty four
to seven and these guys resting USDs man, the guys's
been resting one hundred days or whatever.

Speaker 9 (01:08:36):
It's time to play ball.

Speaker 18 (01:08:38):
But fundamentals, fundamentals, fundamentals, and have the coach in the
game constantly watching the players, and they have I handle
the pulse. Thank you, have a good day, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
No, I appreciate the call.

Speaker 7 (01:08:51):
I mean, this has been a team that has been
fundamentally sound, but they have not been really for about
the last two months, and I mean the offensive inefficiencies.
You have the third word you use when asking me
the ways to describe this team, inconsistent. I played out
last night. That's exactly what it was. I mean again,
Monday's game. I think I said Sunday, but Monday is

(01:09:13):
what I meant. You know what I meant, the final
game of the Angels series where you actually did see
good situational hitting, moving guys over, not trying to do
too much with the pitch, all of the things that
we've been hearing from Dina and from Joe and from
everybody else about Hey, why is your offense so inconsistent? Oh,
we're doing this that, everything in between, and we're not

(01:09:35):
getting back to being the hitters that we should be.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Okay, so this late and say till now, what's the remedy?
I don't think there's say it again, there is no
remedy at this point. You are who you are. Okay,
there's the first part of the answer. But if you're
trying to change the narrative or change the path and
light things up, what was that answer supposed to be.

(01:09:58):
What's the next part of that answer? Guys have to
be better and and and also play. Yeah again, somebody
needs to ask me, if he's not hurt injured, why
why isn't he playing every day? Jordon? I don't understand
because I don't know or are we to the point

(01:10:18):
where this did we actually think, oh, there, this team's
good enough to just survive without And I know they
were in first place. Hell, last year they were in
first place. Dock Kyle Tucker for seventy plus games, whatever
it was. But I just I guess, I don't know
if I'm told that the lineup that things will change
when he's in the lineup, how do you find consistency

(01:10:41):
if it's in every other day thing?

Speaker 7 (01:10:44):
Because it's a collaborative effort, that's the answer I was
gonna give you. It's a collaborative effort. Or this isn't
a Joe thing, This isn't Joe. Just becase, hey talk
I talked with Jordan, and we're gonna give him tomorrow off. No,
this is he's being told in certain sense, doubt that. No,
you got to give him the day off. This is
what the medical staff has told us of those management yes,

(01:11:05):
all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
I'm so tired of the data, dude. Sometimes the eye
test has to come into play. How you feeling if
he's telling me he feels good. Like Tom cru said,
if you ordered the code read if he was leaving
in six hours and.

Speaker 19 (01:11:24):
He hasn't talked to a family member for eighteen months,
he's coming home, leaving the military and is excited to
come home according to his letters, And in eighteen months
or twos hasn't talked.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
And he's leaving in six hours and his clothes are
still hanging in his foot locker? Can you explain when
Jack Nichol said, well, I don't understand the if I
knew the travel habits of sergeant whatever he called it, right,
you know, the courtroom seeing in a few good menies, Yeah,
then why is it hanging there? So I'll ask you this.

(01:12:00):
If you've got twenty games to go, and the straw
that stirs the drink is healthy in Tom Cruise's voice,
then why isn't he playing?

Speaker 12 (01:12:12):
Why?

Speaker 7 (01:12:14):
I mean it's it is at a certain point where
rigidity has to be thrown out the window. And I
mean Dana even told us maybe that's what it was yesterday,
that this is the final one, Because didn't he tell
us twenty to twenty five games left that it's going
to be no time for days off all of these
different things.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
So did they play last night?

Speaker 7 (01:12:32):
Now, they played a team that is a half game
better than you, even though they are not a division leader.
So you played a playoff team.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
I just listen. There's a lot to like about this team,
a ton of it. We talk about Dan every week,
we'll get him in nine thirty today, and there's a
lot that bothersome and the bothersome of the inconsistence. Inconsistency
is another reason why we take this from Versalazar thing
and hit it too, because it's a storyline. It is
when you get beat, these things go away when it

(01:13:03):
cures a lot of stuff. Right, But you can't just
roll it under the carpet because we want to because
if they don't get crossed, we're talking about how dominant
Fromber can be if they if it's seven to one
the other way, right. But that's the point with the consistcient.
It's such a dow Jones it every day, and so
you hit it. When you first started, I say, what's
the remedy and you said there isn't one at this point.

(01:13:24):
But if there is a remedy, and he's sitting on
the bench wearing forty four available to pinch it but
can't play. If his legs are tired, then we got
a real problem with conditioning on this team. They can't
be How is he not playing every day? I'm just sorry. Well,
I know there's torque, but.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
This is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Yeah. I can't imagine Yourdan's walking and knocking on Joe's
door say I need a day off. You had one
hundred of them. What's the reason? Now? It's just me
and I know that's too old school for some that
you got to wear at this time, and there's too
much money involved. Well that's the way you're thinking. Then
then then maybe I'm maybe I'm the wrong guy to

(01:14:05):
comment on this because I am a I'm adamant. I
know rest is needed, but at this stage of the game,
you just got to suck it up. You just do
as a manager to put him in matter of fact,
the lineup, right, it out, leave it. We'll see data
be damned, okay, especially when it comes to forty four,
And I don't know how much data we'd have on

(01:14:26):
a guy that's wrist and hands or other than his data.
If he's in uniform and he's been out one hundred
games and he's not hurt. Why is he not playing?
And when you can answer that, let me know and
I'll listen. But until then, I'm not buying it, and
I'm not buying it from anybody. It's to Hey, it's long,
and people are tired. Well for what just creating problems

(01:14:49):
for yourself that you don't need. I mean, if anything,
you need this thing to be as simple as possible
right now. And I'm with you on that.

Speaker 7 (01:14:55):
I mean, I just don't understand not playing him last night,
but I also know the answer to why they didn't
play them. Brandon stephanievec all right there, we'll get you
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The Jean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Let's go with Brandon, who wants to weigh in. Brandon,
good morning, Hey.

Speaker 12 (01:16:30):
Good morning, Daniel, Moore Sean, I appreciate to always take
them a call.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 12 (01:16:34):
I think the three words Dan kind of sum it
up inconsistently consistent. I mean, that's been the storybook of
this year. I mean, outside of the injuries, they jump
through all that. But if you go back to when
this team was twenty games over back July sixth, somewhere
in there, they've lost twenty nine of the last fifty
and you're not losing games this type of year, or
to the Oakland A's getting swept at home, the Nationals,

(01:16:54):
the Rockies. You're not settling for splits with the Angels.
Last place teams. Teams are supposed to be and nobody
can ever really figure out why this team can't beat
lower place teams that are not as good as they are.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
They have the talent.

Speaker 12 (01:17:06):
It's not a front office thing. It's not a coaching thing.
Now do question the spot his lineups from time to time,
but you know and shot them with you too. You're
you got a guy making sixteen million dollars on the bench.
That's an excusable for this time of the year. Players
play coaches, coach, you got to step up and it's
all player performance, and I think this time of year
is showing it where they can. They can't be consistent.
They only had two five game winning streaks this entire year.

(01:17:28):
The Brewers have won fourteen in a row. I know
they were healthier, and you look at other teams. Yankees
had a seven game winning streak earlier this year, so
you know, in past years, we're competing for titles and
winning World Series. You know, guys, we had winning streaks
of five or more. We had eight, nine, ten, twelve.
I just don't think this team is mentally in it,
and I think the focus is not there, and I
think this year I'm gonna go out just a limit.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Say it, guys.

Speaker 12 (01:17:48):
They're not winning a World Series in my opinion. I'll
hang up and listen to your comments.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Thanks, what.

Speaker 7 (01:17:52):
I appreciate the call. I mean, baseball is great, Yeah,
I appreciate it. Baseball is all to one of the awesome,
most awesome sports, but the dumbest sports possible too. I mean,
two thousand and six Saint Louis Cardinals, they nearly blew
the NL Central lead to the Astros. I think they

(01:18:13):
lost like ten in a row or something like that.
And you're thinking this team's cooked. Even though they just
barely limped into the playoffs, they're not going anywhere. They
win the World Series. I mean, it can happen, but
it just also though too. When I've got a sample
size kind of like we're talking about a pattern with
fromber earlier throughout his career. When I got a sample
size of one hundred and forty plus games, and this

(01:18:34):
is what I've gotten, what makes me believe that through
how many wins you need to get to the World Series,
assuming you assuming you missed the wildcard round, what you
need seven to get there? So you need eleven wins
in order to be able to win it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
So what would you have you'd have if you miss
wild gorround and go to divisional and you need four there,
then you'd need four in the el LCS right LCS,
which gives you eight, and then you need four eight,
twelve at post post one. It's it's the best three
out of five that's in division division right, and then
to go seven and seven that's exactly right, So that

(01:19:09):
you're right, so you know that it will go three, four, four, right,
So you need you need eleven of them? Is that
what you said? I mean it's just it's it's that's right.
This is a five game series. As good as your.

Speaker 7 (01:19:20):
Pitching has been this year, yeah, I mean you still
look at this pitching staff and you're like, okay, I mean, like,
can they continue to do this? I mean even you know,
as good as say a guy like cable Board has been.
Steven Okert was once that guy, and Steven Okert started
leak oil.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
I mean that that's That's the.

Speaker 7 (01:19:37):
Other part of all of this, too, is that you
need everything to be able to go right, and I
just the there's never been any inclination for me to
say this is all going to click and and and
and get into rhythm at the right time.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
There's just nothing that shows me that. I all ask
how many times this year they've scored five runs in
a game in a row, four runs in a game
in a row. You'd have to probably go back to
June in July when they played their best bass. I
would imagine it hasn't happened many times this year. And
it's not one. This isn't just a fromber thing. This
is an injury thing. It's a misque thing, it's a

(01:20:12):
metal lapse thing. It's on the good side. You know,
Korea coming here and doing his thing and trying to
upgrade this. It's when al two va sitting the ball
out of the ballpark. It's when they're patient. The other
part is when they're chasing bad pitches and non competitive pitches,
putting them in a mine. It's when they jump out early.
It's when your pitcher actually gets out of the first
inning without spotting them a lead. I mean, there's a

(01:20:33):
lot of good it's but that's it. Think about how
many different things we're talking about. This this, this, this,
it's a ping pong match, back and forth on the
good the bad, which usually ends up somewhere in the middle,
which is what inconsistent. They'll give you. They'll give you,
and they give it and take it away, and then
you'll get a performance for Farmer like he did his
last start. Goes out there, mozem down, bam bam, bam bam.

(01:20:55):
Even in this would he strike out nine yesterday walked one?
I think, I mean, and yet the emotional of just
getting unraveled ended up costing him. Yeah, you're close, it
was eight, but still your point. But so we'd always
got good stuff, but mantal, the mental stuff that. I
watch him and I think, man, that was me on

(01:21:16):
the that's been me on the golf course before, wearing
on my sleeve. Screwed up with one shot, get another one.
Then I'm pissed at it. And then you want to
snap a club over your back, and then you throw
the ball in the water, and then you come back
and make birdie. And then you come back and double bogie,
double bogie, double bogie. And it's the golf ball, the
putter and the driver's fault, not your own. Does that
make sense? Yeah, that's it. And then and then the
whole world hears about it. Yeah, because you're a volcano

(01:21:37):
on the golf cour You're a volcano.

Speaker 17 (01:21:39):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Just everything I would say emotionally controlled is not his strength.
But this team is is. This is who they are.
The question is can you string them together enough in
a postseason series two your inconsistency doesn't get the best
of You can win the first two being consistent next

(01:22:02):
to and then find a way to get back, which
they've been. And you're just on the good side of
the inconsistency where you're consistent four times and lose three
as opposed to win three and lose four. Does that
makes sense? So that's that's where they're at. But right now,
there's there there. I mean, there's a lot that needs
fixed and there's a lot that's good and in between
it that that marks for an inconsistent team. And we'll

(01:22:25):
talk to Dana Brown about it, but there is this
is not a championship caliber team the way they're playing.
They've got talent enough to do it. But once again,
I'll always tell you give me production over potential any
day of the week. And I also need forty four
in the lineup. If he misses another game and there's
nothing wrong with him, I don't under I don't get it.
You're gonna have to beat me over the head with
a sledgehammer to get it. Well, shann, that's how they

(01:22:47):
do these days. Well, how they do these days across
baseball ain't exactly how you always have to do now,
And I'm getting choked up thinking about it too. By
the way, lshty mean to interrupt you. Dan nuss Meyer's
resting this week. Oh great, Well they're playing Louisiana Tech.
We got to rest. It's not the Yankees, but we
got to rest him because well, he took some hits.

(01:23:08):
He's tired, and his back's got a wilt a welt
on it from one of those edge rushers hitting him
on a throw.

Speaker 7 (01:23:14):
Well, at least it's them and not Florida or somebody
like that, So you know I can take that. At
least I could stomach it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Yes, you see, I mean, I know one plays once
a week, the other's play most every day. But the
physicality in one game far beats thirty days of the
physicality and the other one. And they're both tough, but
it's just the way we go about the way you're
supposed to do it. Sometimes you got to step out
of yourself. They can't win the whole thing without Jordan
being in the lineup regularly. They just can't co sign
on that.

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Speaker 7 (01:26:34):
Fromber Well. It gets ugly there in the fifth thing.
We've been talking a lot about that. Diana Brown gonna
join us at nine thirty for his weekly visit. But
the good news is the Mariners loss last night, so
the Rangers. So you're still three games up on Seattle
and four and a half up on a Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Again.

Speaker 7 (01:26:51):
Want to get you involved in the conversation seOne three, two,
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wants to wig in. Good morning, Stephanie, Hi, thanks.

Speaker 20 (01:27:01):
For having me. I just want to say, you know,
I hear all the panic in everybody, and I think
it's really important that we remember who this team is.
They have so many strengths and so much talent on
this team. And I go back to yesterday's conversation when
we were talking about Jose Altuve, you know, hitting twenty

(01:27:24):
five plus home runs and being our number one home
run hitter right now, and then you look at somebody
like cal Riley who's projected to do sixty plus. And
you really think about the Astros and their investment that
they've made. They invest in a team, not in one player.
And when I look at that, I think, Yeah, their
bats may be off, their pitching team may be struggling,

(01:27:48):
but at the end of the day, we have the talent,
we have the team to turn this around, and I think,
you know we are.

Speaker 8 (01:27:57):
Built for October. We have the experience, and at some.

Speaker 20 (01:28:01):
Point this is about execution, and we have to hold
our management team and our leadership team accountable to that. Right,
We've got to be consistent in our roster and we
are in the final stretches now, so executing with consistency
is the key, and that's going to be up to
the management team and the leadership team, And at some point,

(01:28:23):
I think we have to hold them accountable for it
because we have the talent and we all know the
Astros are built for this run.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
All right.

Speaker 7 (01:28:30):
Let me ask you this because I hear accountability all
the time, Stephanie, like, who and how are you holding
them accountable?

Speaker 20 (01:28:38):
Well, I think it's the consistency and the roster. We
have made an investment in our team, and we are
invested in our starting players your day, playing every night.
It's time that our roster becomes consistent with our players
and our go to people, and that they start that consistency.
Wrote that's going to be in your management. And you know,

(01:29:01):
for me it is if you're going to switch your
players around, you're going to bench Jordan. This isn't the
time to be off.

Speaker 9 (01:29:06):
This is not what we pay them to do.

Speaker 20 (01:29:09):
And I think at that point we have to you know,
we have to execute as a leadership team, and we
have the best.

Speaker 9 (01:29:17):
Of the best.

Speaker 16 (01:29:18):
We've been there.

Speaker 9 (01:29:19):
Stephanie can have the experience.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
Yeah, built for October, no doubt. With their mentality getting Doctober,
maybe a different story this year because of the execution
you're talking about. Have they shown you enough consistency to
tell you that execution wise, not talent wise. We know
they're gifted, but have shown you enough execution wise for
you to believe that they're an October team? Right now?

Speaker 20 (01:29:42):
I believe they're an October team. Do I believe that
we're putting the right team together every night to play.

Speaker 8 (01:29:47):
The game, No, I don't.

Speaker 20 (01:29:49):
I understand that we've had injuries and I understand that that,
but we're recovering from that. You know, the Ashers have
been very fortunate that that Seattle loses on the night
we lose, and that the that the Rangers lose the
night we lose, that has played in their favor. But
at the end of the day, the way we are
putting our roster together every day is what's not working.

Speaker 8 (01:30:13):
With you.

Speaker 20 (01:30:15):
Together and be consistent.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
Amen, Thanks Stephanie, I appreciate it. Her and I are
on the same church. Pew said, there, you're just not
going to convince me that forty four should be playing
every other day. You just you can't. Wells, he's hurt.
I don't think he shouldn't be playing at all.

Speaker 7 (01:30:31):
So what this really comes down to for me from
the management side, then this is a medical thing. Okay,
you're the baseball people. Then then you say, all right,
well he's been out for this long, Like what what
in your medical opinion tells you that he needs to
be out for this time?

Speaker 8 (01:30:46):
Then?

Speaker 7 (01:30:46):
And it's also too let's be honest here, because the
ammunition is there. Why do you trust your medical people? Well,
and here's why I got to fight that fight and
resist that. Dan, We've been told on here. Well, what
we told when your don's ready will go full go.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
It was from the beginning. It was from the beginning,
though we heard the doctor staff's ready because obviously he's
been pronounced fit to go by a medical staff. Or
if he was playing at fifty percent with a chance
of risk to hurt again, did that be negligence on
a medical staff? Correct, So that's not negligence because he's
ready to go and it's bats that tape measure job,
he'll hit the center fields look like normal. You're done right.

(01:31:25):
So if he's medically fit to play, it can only
be one of two things. Period. Either his threshold of
pain isn't there and he can't handle for it bats
every day, which I find hard to believe. But if
I'm just I'm not saying it is. But that's one.
The other option is that you're stubborn and you say
this is the way we do things. Data tells us

(01:31:45):
our players need rest and they got to be in
the plunge pool and his legs and getting back one
day and working him back into it that you're monitoring
it like you would at elementary school's lunch. Did you
get your did you get this? Did you get this?
Did you get you know what I'm saying? There were
monitoring to the point where it's it's it's childlike elementary school.
That stand in line before we walk into class. Here's

(01:32:06):
how we're gonna do it. We don't deviate from this.
I'm all about data. That is evidence. Okay, that that's
what it is, and analytics are evidence. But there also
comes a points top when no medical person. I'm not
asking the medical staff how Jordon feels. They don't know
if he's healthy. They don't have a say in it.
Is he healthy and fit? Yes, we're good, they shouldn't,
is my point. Well, but they're also zero for two

(01:32:28):
in a huge couple of minutes. No question. If you're
telling me the Jordon, I'm going to him. I understand
if you ask him the question every day. How you feeling.
I'm good, you're in the lineup. That's where I should be.
How you feeling? My wrist hurts? How bad? Now go

(01:32:50):
get imaging. My wrist is tired or sore? Okay, sore
enough that if you put it in the killing but
I can go there's only two ways to go with this.
You told me that you're waiting on him, and if
he's fit to go every day, it can only be
he doesn't want to play, which I don't believe, or
we're just going with our this is how we do it.
We got to have him ready for October. We got
to have him ready for the first playoff series. Getting

(01:33:13):
there's going to be a task anyway with him, let
alone without him. So I just don't think. Listen, I
know that hardcore baseball people will this is in football
we play and it's a long grund. Yes, all that's true.
It is a long grain. It is baseball, it's not football.
One's got four panels and eight laces, and one's white
with red laces on it. I get it, But or
white's red seams? Should I say so? But for me,

(01:33:35):
I just I can't fathom. And most athletes mentality at
this stage of the season is oh, hell no, we're
a fistfighting. If you pull me out, we got games
to win. So where's the disconnect?

Speaker 8 (01:33:45):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
It's not fully healthy or you're getting it back in shape.
It took you get it in shape one hundred days worth.
So which one is it? Somebody? It's not in between.
It's just not and if he's ninety seven percent, then
he's got to suck up the three percent. I'm sore.
If it's worse than that, then doesn't need reevaluated. If

(01:34:06):
it's none of those things, and it's just do we're
scheduling every other day he's gonna play. I'm sorry. Baseball
is not that tough on a DH if he's healthy,
it's just not and you need him and that's not
to poopo away. How tough baseball players are. I'm not
talking about that. I'm talking about the data that surrounds
it that forces us to blame the player when it's
really you're making him take a scheduled day off. Yet

(01:34:30):
he's two for four, one for four, three for four, Homer,
keep that thing sizzling, man, if it's something. And with
jord On, you don't know when he's going to start
to sizzle, but when he does, it's a pretty sight.
And I'd like to have him sizzling before game seven
or game five when you're down three games to one.

Speaker 7 (01:34:46):
Consistency again, you'd like to see it across the board.
And seemingly that's what's lacked in twenty twenty five. All right, again,
we got a lot of you who we want to
be able to get to. So we want to get
to as many of you as possible before we get
to Dana Brown at nine thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
So we'll continue here.

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Good morning, guys. Hey, I've been hearing everybody talk too morning.
There was one gentleman earlier. Canmembers name, but let's get
to it about base running, dude. This is one of
the horriblest team. This is one of the bettest teams
in base runner. When it cuts in the mlby they
they run the bases with the head up their butts. Yeah,

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everybody gets lost and you know gets fogged brain and bye,
blah blah. I've been saying it all. You know, right
when we get to start to praise or to okay,
here we go, you know, with this past week's games
against the Angels and stuff, you know you're right there,
and then they pulled this bs last night, Sean.

Speaker 8 (01:36:09):
I know you'll do it because nobody else in that studio.

Speaker 9 (01:36:14):
Let me wait, let me rephrase that, nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Else on that floor.

Speaker 9 (01:36:18):
Dan. I don't know you, so I can't say this,
but I know the other honyaks on those station, on
those programs, they ain't gonna ask this.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
Man.

Speaker 9 (01:36:29):
Do not tell me y'all got crossed up. Do not
piss on my leg and tell me it's rainy. He
is not a superstar no more. He's a head case.
He's his worst nightmare. People. I don't give a damn
what he did in the past. Pull your heads out
of your butts. He's done, Get him out of here.

(01:36:51):
I wouldn't sign him for no uh huh, you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Know who you get.

Speaker 9 (01:36:59):
And then for him to do that, I mean, did
you see the batters not just the catcher? In his
response the battle, the battle was like, oh damn, farmer
has got to go. And your dom man, you jahnk.
You need to ask Dany Brown this. You know, I'm
one of his biggest critics. Why the hell is he

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on the sideline? You get paid money, You've been on
your butt all year long. Get off your ass.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
And go to work.

Speaker 9 (01:37:33):
Or find another job. Dude, Walmart Tirant. I mean, I
don't get these players nowadays. Oh I need a few days. Dude,
you've been sitting on your ass all year and then that, Really,
y'all are gonna make us want to believe that fromer
in the catcher got their signals crossed? No they didn't, man,

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do y'all honestly and truly think for a bunch of
dumb asses. I mean, yeah, we're fans and everything, and
we get the VT and everything. But dude, if I
saw Dana Brown in in a business and I am look,
I've seen pro players. I know pro players that are
retired now.

Speaker 17 (01:38:14):
Of course, I don't go up to.

Speaker 9 (01:38:17):
Pro players and oh can I have your autograph? Kind
now when they're in a restaurant. I sat right next
to Dan Pastorini at Willie's Ice House. I didn't bug
that man, he was there. He but I would go
up to Dana Brown and ask me, do you think
we're all this damn stupid Dana Brown Joe Ah Spoda,
because we're not probably a head case. Man, he got age.

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It's time, it's over, It's time to go, man.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Huh Usa all right, appreciate it, John, Thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:38:48):
Joe.

Speaker 7 (01:38:48):
I mean I think, uh, that last part right there
is probably most of us, but I mean getting mad
at Dana Brown, getting mad at Joe A.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
Spotta is.

Speaker 7 (01:38:59):
You're using misplaced anger at that point because Dana Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
Well, Dana Brown had nuts and nothing to do with frombers,
no sideways.

Speaker 7 (01:39:06):
Well, and then you're also gonna see it play out
with how this offseason is gonna go with them, and
when it comes to the roster building. I mean, this
team is in the position they're in right now because
of the work of Dana Brown and some of the
fines that he's been able to bring in and just
his roster construction. It's not on him and on Aspata.
I mean, it's not like he can tell guys, hey,
you know, we're down six to one right here, probably

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don't lay down a bunt. Now, if you want to
have the argument that Ssar salas Are probably shouldn't have
been hitting at that point, well then sure, but here's
the issue. You got jiner as your DH, So then
you're gonna burn yiners a DH and have to go
pinch hitters the rest of the way, which I think
that happened in what the sixth or seventh inning? It
happened late in the game, so maybe it would have worked.
But still, I mean, it's it's kind of a damned

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if you do, damned if you don't. It comes down
to the players have to execute, and the players, for
the most part, the hitters have not.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
It's really what it comes down to, Sean, It's a fact,
one hundred percent fact. Once again, Now we got all this,
how we get in this remedy?

Speaker 8 (01:40:09):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
How do you remedy it?

Speaker 7 (01:40:12):
You finally have somebody in that clubhouse that says, during
a hitting meeting or whatever, it is, enough of this.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Enough, We've let this team down for too long. Enough.

Speaker 7 (01:40:21):
It's time for us to start pulling our weight. It's
time for us to start carrying this team. It's time
for us to be who were supposed to be. Jose
al Tuvey is supposed to be that guy. Is Jordan
Alvarez when he plays is supposed to be that guy.
Carlos Korea when he plays is supposed to be that guy.
Jiner Diez, Christian Walker? Should I continue to name names?

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
Is it safe to say that it's been a high
underachieving season at the plate for this team, massively massive,
And we did the same thing last year. Where would
they be if pitching was average this year?

Speaker 7 (01:40:54):
They would be at best a third place team in
this division at the Rangers have started to hit better
of the playoffs by now, Yes, they would, I agree
their season would be done.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
Yes, pretty much explains it. If it wasn't for the
way the pitching has been their season, would they would
be preparing for their golf season or wherever they go
in the off season? Correct?

Speaker 7 (01:41:15):
A lot of people thought. A lot of people thought
they were going to be there anyway, which and like
I said, we're not.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
The fascination is that they're three games in front with
this and they have it does seem And when when
she had called in, what was Stephanie when she had
called it and said, we're really fortunate that whenever they lose,
the Rangers and Mariners seemed to lose over this stretch,
it's been a to stay in this position. But that's

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called baseball as well. So I'm sure the Mariners are
frustrated with their inability to close the gap when they've
got a chance to.

Speaker 7 (01:41:47):
I mean, I saw the meme this morning of the
two World series banners up there, and another one that
was right below it said at least the Mariners lost.
I mean, it's is that really, how like you want
to get into the playoffs? Well, good thing they kept losing,
you know, because that really helped us out. I mean
it's just, I just I feel like you asked more
of yourself to be able to get yourself into that

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position as opposed to find yourself in that position. Ray
and Montana Ray, good morning.

Speaker 8 (01:42:17):
Hey, good morning guys. Hey, I'm just cure I got
three points.

Speaker 17 (01:42:21):
One. Does this team even remember when they beat the
Dodgers eighteen to one? I mean, because that team seems
a long time ago. The other thing we weren't The
game wasn't out of control yet, but we had a
man on first and a man on second, and Penya
comes up and bunts. I maybe I'm just stupid. I

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don't get that.

Speaker 8 (01:42:42):
I mean swing away. I mean, you bunted just.

Speaker 17 (01:42:46):
To move two guys, and it didn't work obviously. And three,
you know the sense of urgency. We're running out of time.
When of these guys going to start playing injured? And
I mean sure everybody's hurt, but you know there was
a coach in the you know named Bear Bryan. Either

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you practiced, hurt or you didn't play. I mean there
were This team used to be right really mentally tough,
and they're not even close to that anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
Appreciate the thank you, Yeah, yeah, right, appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (01:43:23):
It was the third inning when Pania did it, and
you got Mauricio Dubond to get off with get on
with the lead off walk, and then saysr Salazar got
hit with pitch. So then it flipped it over to Pania,
who apparently, I guess was over eight over nine in
his career against Max Freed. But I mean, okay, fine,
you move the guys over to second and third. That's great,
and then Carlos career grounds into a force out at shortstop. Cool,

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I mean two to one at that point, because I
mean it just going off the results that I see
right here, and I understand that pitches would have been different,
but I mean moving guys over is one thing, and
I hear people say that all the time, Oh small ball,
do all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
Okay, fine, I can move them up a base.

Speaker 7 (01:44:03):
Let's just say that everything goes right, And people say
bunt like it's a magic elixir two times last night.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
You tried to do it and you didn't execute it.
Still got to get the guy cross home plate. The
key still got to get you move them over. You
still got to get that hit with runners in scoring
position that's clutch at the right time. The timing of
the the the ability to their timing at the plate.
This year, I'm not talking timing on pitches. The timing

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of when that run comes, when they push to run
across has been average at best, and I think the
numbers bear that out well.

Speaker 7 (01:44:38):
I mean, that's why they're middle of the pack in
pretty much every single category that matters. And I mean
the good news is they're three games up in the division.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
Which is awesome, and the season, the fact that they're
there is there is quite frankly a shocker in itself.
Very talented team. Inconsistence would explain, Thank goodness for the
pitching staff. They should be playing every day, if you're healthy,
should be playing every day down the stretch. You got
the plenty of the off season ar rest. That's why
you get paid. It's that simple. These players know it.
And I don't think the players are begging out. I

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give them credit. I just think that this schedule adds up.
Sometimes data be damned, data can kiss my backside. Sometimes
the data is simply, hey, you good enough to go today.
I need you to elevate to a different level. The
data says I should rest you. What do you want
to do today? Screw data. The eye test says I
need to play and my teammates are counting on me

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to play. I'll deal with the rest in the off season.
Let's go, because the off season will be here sooner
than you want. If you don't simple facts, no rose
cuttle glasses. That's the facts. They're too inconsistent. They're not
good enough. Talented enough, yes, but not good enough this
year to flick that light switch on and off when
they want to, and thank goodness for pitching for the

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most part, or this team. You'd already be talking about
the matchup seven weeks from now between the Texans and
whoever the hell they're playing.

Speaker 7 (01:45:57):
We've had those seasons around here. We don't want to
go back to those anytime soon. Team's too good talent
wise to be doing this at the plate. Well, sometimes
they hit. Can they survive it?

Speaker 8 (01:46:08):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
Through this? We'll go find out. But I just I
go back to Now. I don't know if Jordon makes
a difference last night. I should like to find out,
though it would have been nice so I have known. Yeah, Noah,
and we didn't get that chance. Bill, you're gonna lead
us off here to get into the next segment. You
want to join them someone three two one two five
seven ninety against someone three two one two five seven ninety.
It is a Western Wednesday, Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk

(01:46:31):
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Now I am, I'm I'm like the finger food appetizer chips,
you know, throw a fredo in their chips to get
the dips. Sometimes to the point on college game day
or during Saturday and studies get up put the spread,

(01:46:53):
it always has the daisy French onion dip or the
daisy ranch tip. Was in the local grocery store over
the weekend picking it up, and why because well, the
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(01:47:13):
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Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
I had this Sean Soundsbury Show continued, Bill in Seabrook
wants to weigh in.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
Bill, good morning, Hey, gentlemen, good morning.

Speaker 21 (01:48:12):
The stuff with Fromber and Salazar is absolutely comical to me.
If people really think, you know, okay, maybe Fromber should
have backed off, Okay, that's between he and Salazar on
the on the Grand Slam. Did they really think the
next pitch that Fromber crossed him up or through or
work through at his catcher like people are saying.

Speaker 8 (01:48:34):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 21 (01:48:37):
As a professional catcher trying to catch a ninety three
mile hour pitch over the heart of the plate and
he plays it like a nine you catcher on a
Sunday morning. That is a crap narrative to think that
Fromber crossed him up as a horse craped by any
fans at all. Hey, Bill, watch that replace sixteen times today.

Speaker 2 (01:48:59):
They'll look at the hitter it was, it was? It
wasn't it Vulpi in the batter's box. I think so regardless,
But watch Salazar's reaction and watch normally, when you cross
somebody up, do you walk towards the catcher like, man,
my bad, let's come on out. He'd flipped the switch,
and when one hundred and eight, he's trying to walk
towards center field as if there you go, and and

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Salazar snapped his head behind home playton his stands like
the hell was this? Nah? I'm not They can't sell
that to me. Nobody can b s it was. It
was done on purpose, and you and I both know it.

Speaker 21 (01:49:32):
But but he telling me that major league catcher couldn't
catch that pitch, Well, I mean major league pitch as well.

Speaker 9 (01:49:40):
Look where the ball was put him in the.

Speaker 21 (01:49:44):
All at ninety three, and he look where his hands
were before that pitch started. He wasn't ready to catch
a pitch. To me, crossing up a catcher is calling
for a stinker, lowing in and you throw a fastball
high and wide. That's crossing enough a catcher.

Speaker 8 (01:49:59):
That's just me.

Speaker 21 (01:50:00):
I may be all wrong, but the narrative, did he
whatever he's threw, did he throw it on purpose wherever
he was gonna throw?

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:50:06):
I get he's he's a flake when he's good, he's
a flake when he's bad. I think everybody knows that.
Did he throw it where fromber wanted to throw it? Yeah,
but you can't tell me that that catcher couldn't call
the baseball? Why I until I die? Why can't that
guy catch that ball? Regardless if it was he wasn't
expecting it. What was he expecting catch the ball?

Speaker 9 (01:50:27):
You got a glove in.

Speaker 21 (01:50:28):
Your hand, you got a mask in your face, Catch
the damn ball.

Speaker 7 (01:50:32):
I appreciate the call, Bills. I mean that's why you know,
we were talking about it earlier, Sean, and I mean
the same response here is, I understand what Salazar is doing.
But that's why you say the I hit the wrong button.
That doesn't hold water because he didn't hit the wrong button.
Your reaction tells it. And seeing it again, as you
pointed out, you know, we saw the replay here in studio.

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Salazar immediately like kind of like looking out there like
a catcher does whenever something happens like that, and like
almost in disbelief, like you really just did that, like seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
Then he gets the ball back and he's leering at
fromber back of the pitch. It wasn't like, oh my
bad man, you okay, he didn't even check on his
he did he saw him head. He didn't even just
walk forward to even check.

Speaker 7 (01:51:13):
If they don't you know that a picture is not
intentionally throwing at a guy, but say, unfortunately, we've seen it.
Fastball gets inside, hits the guy in the helmet, something
like that. Picture has a reaction, right if it's genuine,
like oh no, that got away something like that. But
if it's intentional picture, will step to the front of
the mount and let him know I'm right here if
you want to come out here and challenge.

Speaker 8 (01:51:33):
Me right now.

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
On the other way, if it's your own player, if
it is, you'll step out in front saying, man, my bad,
you okay. Would have checked on like dude, we're crossed up,
come on out, or you would look at him like
ey'd eye the second that pitch hit him in the chest.
But he turned and walked back towards center field as
if don't address me, don't say a word. I'm not
a body language guy. But it's easy to see. You

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can sell me out a lot of things. This one
I ate buy it. It doesn't matter what anybody says.
I mean just because any other explanation is the truth.
To tell me you pushed the wrong button. So if
the wrong button was he wanted to push fastball because
that's what Fromber wanted correct, you would think. Yeah, so
if he pushed, if he didn't push fastball and didn't
stop in the middle because they couldn't hear, communication was wrong.

(01:52:16):
So he pushed off speed, whatever the cur whatever, whatever
pitch Fromber was throwing, they would set him up away.
There was off speed fair enough because of me. He
was looking fastball and kept Then why didn't he catch it?
Like Bill said, But their friends, right, but their buddies. Yeah, well, friends,
make sure you emphize that. But I don't. I don't
understand why then if you knew you missed it, and

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you knew that it was crossed up, that he wasn't
going to throw that you couldn't hear, and you pushed
the wrong button, shouldn't you have set for expected fastball anyway?
Because the button you pushed supposedly was going to be
an off speed pitch of some sort and you knew
you pitch it. See how see how does the math
doesn't add up? Yeah, none of it does.

Speaker 7 (01:52:59):
The math doesn't add but yeah, right, yeah, you gotta
you gotta throw that in there for good measure.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
You know, everything's good, guys, that's good. When they come back.
Let's go rapid fire well, we won't make any comments. Guys,
we want to go. We got the board lit up.
You guys deserve to get it all in. You just
roll rapid fire. We'll we'll we'll, we'll talk about your
comments after we get through all these calls.

Speaker 7 (01:53:18):
What he said right here, Sewn Salisbury Show Sports Talk
is seven ninety and I mean it's it's time to
get into a good Sean in a way that you
can get into a good mood is brisket, ribs, some sides,
some beans, some potato salad, all of that. As a
matter of fact, today's your birthday. That's the rumor out there.
That's what I've heard. But I mean, you know, I've
told you the rules before. You know, you don't tell

(01:53:39):
another man that's your birthday. But if you, if you're grown,
happy birthday man.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
I appreciate. Okay, well, on this show we do celebrate birthday,
Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. We are actually to
the point where we're like the ladies. We call it
birthday month. Okay, I can do it every day. You
can just remind us that birthday. The ladies do it.
Why can't wait?

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
Yeah, I could go with that that's birthday month. But
it's your birthday and I know Jay Barram is gonna
be a part, Yes they are. They're gonna the best
place on the planet, twenty two to one Leland. All
this stuff. We don't even need to do that. They
you know where it's at, twenty two one Leland. Great place.
But if you can't go to the venue, I'd bring
it to you. It does. Yeah, the fact of the matters.
You chose on your birthday to have Jbarm Barbecue, which

(01:54:17):
speaks volumes for what it's all about.

Speaker 7 (01:54:18):
You dang right it does, because I mean it speaks
about what Aurash and his crew do back there in
the smoke room and putting all of it out there
for you to enjoy every single day when you go
to the venue, or even if you decide to have
it back at the crib, it's all there available for you.
Jbarm Barbecue. The place itself. We speak glowingly about the
venue because it's for the right reason. The smell hits
you as soon as you walk in the place. Tons

(01:54:41):
of spaces to sit and a great beer garden, full
service bar, all of that available for you to jbar
M Barbecue jbar M Barbecue. Sean just told you twenty
two one one Leland Street right there, and Itedo looked
forward to seeing Hoffey and the crew up here in
about an hour or so.

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
It's Jbarm Barbecue.

Speaker 4 (01:55:01):
Wear a mask or wear gloves, wear leather and chains.
Reminds me of that time I accidentally walked into an
S and M convention. Hey, my back still hurts with
good speaking of back pain. Back to former QB Sean
Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety getting medieval on him.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
Shun John and Fresno. Good morning, John, Hey, good money.

Speaker 8 (01:55:29):
Hey look here, I've got a couple of things to say.
I'm gonna get off.

Speaker 22 (01:55:33):
Number one is that dash open, trying to get that game,
trying to give up first place?

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
The off the break, I mean, Marras is just that bad.

Speaker 22 (01:55:41):
But my question is I don't think you was really
running this, Atlanta because number one first question is why
you had done. You're in a pennant race. You only
got a few more games left and you kind of
stay here while he on the bench.

Speaker 8 (01:55:54):
That's number one.

Speaker 22 (01:55:55):
Number two, why would you have a ricky catcher catcher
the expense pitcher when you crab and win. I guess
a team like the Yankes and then number three.

Speaker 8 (01:56:04):
I don't think.

Speaker 22 (01:56:04):
I don't think of Dusty was coaching. I don't think
none of this will go down. So that's just my thing,
and I just want to know what y'all think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
I appreciate, appreciate the call.

Speaker 7 (01:56:13):
I mean, that's the other part of it, too, is
that there is a perception that Joe does not do
enough to try to enforce things. And we did hear
that there was a meeting last night, but I don't
know what was said during that meeting, And maybe we'll
get some clarification on it this afternoon. And I'm sure
that probably it's going to be like a lot of situations. Oh,
you guys are making too big of a deal of this,

(01:56:34):
I'm sorry, Like when you have the past that you have,
like from er Valdez has and you have what we
saw last night and then the afterwards, really the kind
of just different game of telephone being played by both guys.

Speaker 2 (01:56:51):
No, it's not being made.

Speaker 7 (01:56:53):
The deal is not being made large enough, Like you're
not making a big enough deal out of it, because
if you're allowing this to happen, then what are you
going to allow to happen for I don't know, al twove.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
It's not the one incident. It's the collateral damage that
it's caused, or the history of it.

Speaker 7 (01:57:09):
But that's the thing though, too is Look, I understand
keeping things behind closed doors. You've supposedly kept a lot
of things behind closed doors.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
That's fine.

Speaker 7 (01:57:16):
This is the one that you get out in front of.
This is the one where I don't even care if
it's symbolic. The media gets in there today, al tuove,
or is somebody dressing down from her something like that
to let it be known like starts, this isn't gonna stop.

Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
Man, not gonna happen. They missed an opportunity last night
to say, listen, frustrations happen and see. I'll buy into
that explanation. I always do. I've been in fights on
the sideline with a player. You see it all the time.
Go watch some Manning and Brady tape how many times
they went up down line, MF and the apeman take.
We'll watch them they all do. Is you just the

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ones we catch? You don't hear all the other stuff,
locker rooms, practice field, the rest of it. Fights all
the time. You don't let it fester, and you go
and say, yep, disagreement. We all buy into the long
season tired. We all buy into that. Hell, think about
your own job. Somebody says somebody's like, man, they didn't
meet like that, and you're you're quick because you're having
one of those days and you boom, go back and
oh man, am I bad.

Speaker 8 (01:58:14):
Talk?

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
Then an hour later, did that guy you apologize? I'm
just having one of those days. Okay, cool, the opportunity.
We all understand that part. What I don't understand is
trying to trying to b s he and say that
that we're on the same page. Where for it's trying
to sell me. That is like walking into say hey man,
I'm always on time, always on time, always on time,
but you're never on time. Does does that make sense?
You're always late, but you're trying to convince me you're

(01:58:34):
on time, but I already know the history. You're always late. Here,
it's do we know the history? He's an emotional roller coaster.
He just is fromber Is. But frustration hits all teams,
and it's okay, I'd rather have you look at me
and say you know what both of them standing up
there say I wanted this. He wanted that. He's the
pitcher settle in. It was no big deal. And both

(01:58:56):
of you admit that, you know we're gonna fix this.
What will we be saying today? Man, some maturity going on.
You see my point? And what they're not thinking about
when they're doing it is just look at the tape, dude.
Tape tape never lies. If a guy's five yards out
of position on tape and football, you'll know it, and

(01:59:17):
it does not lie. It's the truest formul and it's
the same thing here body language and all that alone.
It was plain day. It was as plain as you
can be the biggest fromber apologist in the world.

Speaker 7 (01:59:29):
And you could sit there and say, you can't this
one does not you know, the one that always cracks
me up. And we'll get to Gary in just a second.
Is a busted play? Oh you don't know the coverage,
you don't know the call. Well I can see that
the play was busted. I can see that as clear
as day.

Speaker 17 (01:59:44):
So what was there?

Speaker 7 (01:59:46):
Was the safety not supposed to be there. He just
happened to be twenty yards away.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
You watch the Texas Longhorns game three, man rush. On
the last play of the game, the right tackle steps
down and is attempting to They got five to block three,
right and you don't get a hand on eleven runs
right through. Don't get that doesn't matter what the coverage was,
and it doesn't matter what the protection is. Five can
never not have their hands on three. So it's simple

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that if the right tackles offended by it, he's a
new player. The bottom line was he missed his assignment
and didn't block who we were supposed to. Lost your ball.
And if you're offended by it, oh well maybe you're
in the wrong sport. That's just it. It's just yeah.
And if you're the right tactics have to say, that's
on me, man, I gotta be better. I got to
give my quarterback a chance. If you're arch manning the

(02:00:33):
throws that you threw into the dirt. Eh, Steve Sawkesian's
fault when you got a seven yard window and you're
bouncing it.

Speaker 7 (02:00:40):
Okay, And he into his credit, he did say, I
know he did. Gotta be better if we're gonna win
ball games.

Speaker 8 (02:00:44):
All right?

Speaker 2 (02:00:45):
Of course, why because he gets it. He gets it.

Speaker 7 (02:00:49):
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Speaker 7 (02:02:24):
Tana Brown going to join us at nine thirty for
his weekly visit. Astros lose last night seven to one
to the Yankees. Back at again tonight. Jason Alexander on
the mound for the Stros, and he's been the stopper
in the past.

Speaker 2 (02:02:37):
Hopefully you can continue.

Speaker 7 (02:02:38):
Texan is gonna get back on the practice field to
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seven one three two one two five seven ninety Gary
in Spring wants away in Gary.

Speaker 2 (02:02:49):
Good morning, Hey, good morning, gab Well.

Speaker 1 (02:02:52):
Lots of lots of frustration out there. Huh uh. I'm
one of them too. I'll tell you last night I
was so I started that game. I'm a I'm a
half empty, half full type guy, and I was half
full when it started. Time at time they hit that
Grand Slam.

Speaker 12 (02:03:07):
I turned it off.

Speaker 1 (02:03:08):
My cup had a hole in it. I was completely empty.
But uh, you know, last time those two, the picture
and the catcher worked together, they worked real good together.
So that was that was just an isolated deal. That's
not a regular deal right there. And uh so I'm
just gonna try to Uh my blood pressure won't take
all this frustration, so I'm And when I asked Alexa

(02:03:29):
this morning about the other two teams that are trailing
the Astros, they both lost. So my cup got half
full again. So I'm gonna I'm just gonna have to
rely on the Astros staff knowing what they're doing with
these people. I want Alvarez in every game, but maybe
they know something I don't know. But Sean, I want
to give you. I want to give you a request

(02:03:51):
if I could.

Speaker 12 (02:03:53):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (02:03:55):
Are you there, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, listen when
you talk to Brown, uh the general manager, if you
all of us listeners over there, we feel your frustration.
We're on board with you if you and I know
you can't do this. I've been around a long time.
You have a guest and you can't really talk to
him like that, But if you could just relay some

(02:04:16):
of that passion and that frustration onto him. Do you.

Speaker 2 (02:04:22):
Do you listen to my interviews with him every week? Gary, Yeah,
I've never if you. If you passion and energy every
single week he never gets a softball question. So you
don't have to worry about that. I promise you. He's
gonna he's gonna get asked about fromber, He's going to
get asked about your done, he's gonna get asked about
the consistency of the team, anything else. I'll make sure

(02:04:44):
I come. I promise.

Speaker 1 (02:04:46):
Just just just bring some of that, some of that
high passion within all of us out here. We'll be
right on board with him. Yep, thanks for everything you'll do.
You'll have a great show, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:04:55):
I appreciate it, man, Passion never an issue and I'm grateful. Yeah.
I write all them questions now, okay.

Speaker 7 (02:05:06):
I mean it's not even about writing the questions down.
You ask what needs to be at.

Speaker 2 (02:05:09):
Well, you'd never have to worry about us getting Dana
Brown at least keep getting what answers you're going to get.
Dana is here every week, shows up, he posts. Whatever
answer you're going to get is that I won't just
let it go with that follow up after follow up
until we don't have I only have twenty minutes or
ood with him, so I got to get the best
I can out of it. But softballs you won't get

(02:05:32):
on this show or on the here around here, it's
not gonna happen. Wow.

Speaker 7 (02:05:35):
I mean, and not to pick nits here, but that
was not an isolated incident last night. I mean to
go back to what Rogers said earlier. It was a
great line Fromer's got a rap sheet that was last night,
just another thing that you can add to there's Fromber again. Yep,
it's I mean, and you've said it. I mean, there's
there's no way that you can think of him other
than being a front runner. When things are good, then

(02:05:58):
you don't have these issues. But like the first inning,
he had a three to one count on Stanton where
one of those pitches should have had it at a
three at a two to two count right there, And
as soon as I saw it that strike call was missed,
I said, oh God, here it comes. Here it comes
because it's that it's a number up the third base line.

(02:06:21):
It's him trying to play hero ball and swing around
and try try to grab a ball behind him. And
it skips back to Jiner Diaz and the inning spirals
out of control.

Speaker 2 (02:06:30):
It's one thing after another.

Speaker 7 (02:06:32):
I asked you earlier off the ear you ever had
that buddy, where it's just everything with them, Hey, how's
your day? All my back hurts, there's all of this
where finally you just get to a point where you're
just like, you know what, I just don't even want
to deal with.

Speaker 2 (02:06:43):
This, So you quit asking him how he's how he's doing.
He just quit talking to them, ask him what he
was doing, because it's enough, it's inevitable. That's what you
need to And Gary makes a good Gary. Trust me.
I try to relay the fans passion every single week
and try to give you, guys, every single thing, questions
that you would, well, quite frankly, questions that others may
not ask. I'm trying to. I'm not diving. I don't

(02:07:06):
really care why, man, how we doing in first place?

Speaker 1 (02:07:08):
All that?

Speaker 2 (02:07:09):
I want to know the whyse how we get to it?
How we get to it, and that's what we try
to find out. And I don't really care if it's
question man' that's all. That's a tough question. Oh well,
I'm not losing. I'm not losing my credibility to softball anybody,
and data knows that coming on here every week, hence
why we do it. And he's respectful in his response.

(02:07:30):
He may not answer them the way the fans want,
but there will be passion in the questions. Because I
usually ask questions I don't get it, I don't have
an answer to. And if I don't have an answer
to it, beat on the show every day and interviewed
him every week, I would imagine others out there don't either.
We all speculate, we'll hear it and he can answer
it however he wants. But I can tell you this,
they will get asked respectfully. Yeah, but they will get asked.

Speaker 23 (02:07:51):
I mean.

Speaker 7 (02:07:52):
And that's the thing I mean, because you're tuning into
here what his answer is going to be. And yeah,
nobody wants to. Hey, you're still three games up and
this like I can read that.

Speaker 2 (02:08:02):
I can read that online, right, I can look at
the box score, right, I can do all that stuff.
It's all the stuff. It's like anything else. Oh, you're
you're telling me that the University of Texas got beat
and here's what how did it happen?

Speaker 1 (02:08:15):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:08:15):
Now hell, dive deep and fix it right. You know,
Arch is a bust. He played, he started one big game.
He started to as one big one so far. If
you're good enough, you're in the wrong life, Ryan Clark,
if you're good enough to tell me the guy's a
bust and not a generational talent after one game, he
should be in a different line of work and making
a far more money than he's making a TV. And

(02:08:36):
he's making decent money there, I'm sure far more money.
Just like if Jordon throws a no hitter today, you
to say well or not you're on. But Frommer threw
a no hitter last night and you say, well, that's
the best left Tanner baseball. Well the next week he
may not have his emotions line right. So they were
so hyperbolic in how we approach things. But I can

(02:08:57):
tell you we'll get to the heart of the matter
whether we get them. That's as we want to know.
It's one thing, but you will. We're not gonna leave
a stone unturned, nor should we know it's gonna be
ay Man the ground ball to short stuff, did the
ball come off as back check the v low for yourself.
I don't care about that did the ball landing plane?
You score run?

Speaker 7 (02:09:14):
That's what I want to know about why all right,
And that's what we're gonna ask some results that we're
in the business. Someone three two one two five seven
ninety John on the northwest side, John, good morning, Hey.

Speaker 8 (02:09:25):
Good morning fellows. How you're doing?

Speaker 2 (02:09:27):
Good man?

Speaker 8 (02:09:29):
Hey man, you know that was an.

Speaker 23 (02:09:31):
Adventure later tonight. You know in sports we have that adventure.
You think that's crazy?

Speaker 17 (02:09:35):
Where thank a year two ago we saw a couple
of teammates.

Speaker 8 (02:09:39):
On another team fighting in the dog.

Speaker 23 (02:09:41):
You know that's that's sports man. But I will speak
on the Avera Reds team. I have a hand injury.
I've been having a hand injury for about twenty some years.
Some days by handing hurt. Sometimes it'd go a month
and it won't hurt. So we really don't know the
d on the Avera Reds average mighty came. I could
appear and my hand Knight Steed be hurt, might need

(02:10:04):
a day out. But as I say, I can speak
on that.

Speaker 1 (02:10:07):
You know that good?

Speaker 8 (02:10:08):
Okay, The astios are in first place.

Speaker 23 (02:10:11):
That's my main concern.

Speaker 8 (02:10:12):
Let's keep it rolling, baby y.

Speaker 23 (02:10:14):
I don't have a Google.

Speaker 7 (02:10:15):
I appreciate the call. I mean, I get we're not
gonna get every single explanation. I understand that, But I mean,
this wasn't like you were playing the Marlins last night,
or the Twins or any other team that's not anywhere
close to being in playoff contention at this moment. You're
playing against a team that you could possibly see in
the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (02:10:35):
Well, yeah, I know you can understand days off at
this stage of the season. I don't understand days off
unless you're unless you're injured. I just don't pitchers you
every five days, or a bullpen you've used some thre days.
I'm talking about the everyday players. I'm just sorry. I
I don't you got a sore hammy and you're worried
that it's it's strained but not pulled. You had to
miss I get that, And I understand his hand. I do.

(02:10:56):
If he's injured, he shouldn't be in uniform. If he's healthy,
he should be in uniform. If he's in uniform and
you look at him in the eye and every day
comes the ballpark, hey film feel great, skip, let's go.
He should be in You don't have time to bleed
right now. You gotta do it, and I know that's all. Well,
that's too macho stuff. Now it's it's it's not macho,

(02:11:17):
and I don't mean macho at all. It's it's trying
to get into the postseason and you got to give
yourself the best chance to win an according to the interview,
and Dana's that he will change the lineup. Everybody gets
better when your Dan's in the lineup. Why is not lineup?
You could have used that change last night. You could
have used that difference. But at least I gotta see it. Listen,

(02:11:38):
if you don't, If you want to win power Ball,
you got to play the freaking numbers. You're not winning
the billion, one point three or five billion dollars jackpot
just by osmosis.

Speaker 8 (02:11:48):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (02:11:48):
You got to play pay the number, play the numbers.
His impact in the lineup ain't doing me any good.
Sitting next to Joe A spot is saying I'm available
in the seventh inning. Does that make sense?

Speaker 7 (02:11:59):
No, it makes one hundred percent sense. I'm just me.
I'm better off knowing than not knowing. In the case
last night, well we'll never know. But uh, anyway, the
friggin' bucket. It's it's the time later. Yeah, you can
rest when you when you clinch. You can rest when
you know where your playoff positioning is. That's when you
can rest. Aggie, Doug, Garrett, Mike Kenny, See you guys

(02:12:20):
want to join in someone three two one two five,
seven ninety. We'll roll through you guys before we get
to Astro Shem Dana Brown coming up, nine thirty Sean
Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:12:31):
Oh have we played it for? Hey, it's Jeff Blum.
You've got more Sean Salisbury to pick up.

Speaker 8 (02:12:38):
Barry left off Dolphin.

Speaker 7 (02:12:39):
On Sports Talk seven ninety Home of your Stros, Aggie Doug,
You're gonna get us started, Go.

Speaker 2 (02:12:51):
Aggie Doug going once. Yep, you gotta you gotta you
gotta be.

Speaker 7 (02:12:56):
Quick, gotta you gotta be quicker than an Aggie offense
on on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (02:13:00):
Go ahead, Bud, I feel you, brother.

Speaker 24 (02:13:02):
Hey, look man, I look at it like that the
Astros are like a NASCAR and in their final laps.
I mean, I don't know anything about NASCAR, but I've
watched enough Telegate Dagan Knights that at least have a
concept of it that basically we're trying not to run
out of gas and as far as empty and the bucket, Sean,
I think the bucket is empty, and I think Joe's
basically banging on the bottom of the bucket to see

(02:13:23):
if there's anything else left, because I think we're at
the point right now. We're drafting, we're doing anything. We've
turned off the air, we've turned off the radio, we've
done I mean, dude, we are ten miles from home
in basically three miles of gas. So we're just doing
everything in our power right now just to get to
the finish line. And honestly, guys, with their injuries, it's

(02:13:46):
okay if we don't. And that's not throwing up a
white flag, and that's not giving up. It's just obviously
acknowledging the obvious and going This team has gone through
injuries that no one knows team has ever experienced before,
and we're still three games in first at the beginning
of September.

Speaker 9 (02:14:03):
It bobbles any any.

Speaker 2 (02:14:05):
Face, and Doug bru said that on the show. I
say it all the time, the guy looking through all this,
you're still three games from the first place, which is
an quite frankly, we should be there, absolutely not. They
should have been out of here. They should have been
out of the playoffs a month ago. You're exactly right.
So it's fascinating. But one thing about it. While I
do agree with you one hundred percent on empty and
the bucket is are they spent? But the one problem

(02:14:25):
is there's an engine that's a newly rebuilt engine that's
really friggin good that if you don't put it in
the automobile, you're not maxing it out. There's is zero
reason if he's not hurt, that Jordan doesn't play twenty
straight games, zero reason, zero, No, And.

Speaker 24 (02:14:42):
I agree with you, there is that if if he's here,
he should play right.

Speaker 8 (02:14:47):
He needs that we need to have.

Speaker 24 (02:14:48):
I mean, honestly, we're at the point where we don't
have the ability to say, you know, we just need
to give that guy a day off. We need to
have twenty six guys available every single day. I don't
and and Dave has done a great job, you know,
you know, being an organist, organized, you know, and all
that kind of stuff, moving guys up, moving guys down.
But we have got to have twenty six every single day,

(02:15:09):
and if we don't, it's just it's a detriment.

Speaker 2 (02:15:11):
To to Joe's Botta.

Speaker 7 (02:15:12):
Honestly, man, I appreciate the call. I mean, just real
quick here before we get to the rest. The results
are all that matter, as I've said, and the truth
of the matter is it's the guys that you need
to be counting on. Christian Walker, Janer Diaz. I've named
all the other names that have been underperforming for this
entire season.

Speaker 2 (02:15:29):
So to know who they are at this stage exactly.
It's some good, some bad, and a bunch in between.
And a bunch in between means you're a good team,
not a great team. You're fortunate to be in first
place with some help and overcoming all these injuries, which
has been fascinating. But the bottom line, they're not good
enough right now to win a title the way it's
set up. That's not because they're not the lineup. I mean,
not not the way Dana went about his miss, but
the way they're performing. You can grind all you want,

(02:15:51):
and Dana and they do grind, and Dana make sure,
I mean that's important to them. I get it, resilient grind.
But eventually, guess what if you're grinding and not getting
paid for the grind, you quit the job. If you're
grinding in baseball or in sports, and you don't do it,
the coach gets fired if the results don't eventually bear fruit.
Now they are three games in front of first place. Yeah,

(02:16:13):
and you know the fruit I'm talking about. Nobody's saying
this team's buried. Of course they're good. They wouldn't be
in front even with all this. There's still three games
in front. Imagine if they were healthy all year, maybe
they'd be ten games, maybe they'd be maybe they'd still
only be three. But it's fascinating on the one side.
But you can Combarmentali. I say, that's been amazing. But
there's a lot of things for the guys that are
in the lineup that they're getting, that are getting paid,

(02:16:34):
and they know their job and they've done and performed
in the past, the expectation's got to be higher. Another
reason why if I'm a teammate of there and I
got a big stud in my dugout who's healthy and
I know what he means to the lineup, I would
almost feel, oh, he's not the lineup again today it's
the Yankees on a Tuesday. Why that's my thought. Now,

(02:16:55):
I'm just a simple cave man man. I don't know
what they know, but I just know to me, convinced
me that he shouldn't be unless he's hurt. If he's hurt,
he shouldn't be in uniform, I mean really hurt. If
he's tired and banged that that's just you know, sometimes
you got to get a shot, Sometimes you got to
ice it up.

Speaker 4 (02:17:11):
Sometimes you just got to fight through it. Well, it's
also you just got to win. I mean, that's that's
really what it boils down to when it's all said
and done. Garrett Montgomery, Garrett real quick, Hey.

Speaker 2 (02:17:22):
Real quick. A simple caveman over here too.

Speaker 25 (02:17:24):
But I'm just calling about Bill's take earlier, and I
couldn't disagree moreh Fromber, he's up there getting hammered, the
guy's grinding for him back there behind the plate, and
just something like this is unacceptable. I hope the leadership
in the clubhouse took care of this behind the scenes.
This's just bush lead stuff.

Speaker 9 (02:17:44):
So that's all I got.

Speaker 2 (02:17:46):
Hey, I think he's talking about Fromber doing what he
did to say, Oh, yeah, that is what he's talking about.
At some point, it makes you wonder, has anybody ever
had that come to Jesus as a player with fromber
in private, not Korey coming off the mound and sadling
him in. Has anybody ever taken him by the lapels
and said, dude, I'm talking about you know I'm not
talking about literally you get my point, and said, this

(02:18:10):
ain't it. You're way too good. There's a way to
be firm and know that. At the same time I'm
patting you on the back. I just took a dog
on cleat and stuck it so far up your ear
and you can't see my ankle. You know the point
I'm talking You know that? Did you double dip on
the Hey man, you're great, But by the way, the

(02:18:31):
only thing stopping you from getting to another level is
stopping us. And the next time this happens, it's gonna
be it's going to be different in here. There will
no there, the arm won't be around you. Next time
it's going to be different. Or he's going to run
into the wrong cat one time and they're not gonna
care who he is. You ought to dare I take
you to other clubhouses in over the antles of time

(02:18:52):
that have seen this happen, so I listen. Is it
too big a deal? If they were winning and it
was one pitch like that and they did that, We'd say,
those two better go get this crap worked out. That's
on them. They're grown ass men. But it's this isn't
the first time. And that's why I think people are
focused on this because it just epitomizes.

Speaker 7 (02:19:11):
It seems like it's being allowed to happen. That's right, Yeah,
that's what it seems like. Kenny, what's going on? Kenny?

Speaker 2 (02:19:17):
Hey, great show, guys. I love listening to you.

Speaker 17 (02:19:20):
Thank you, Hey, Sean.

Speaker 12 (02:19:21):
If there's one thing that I make sure I'll listen
to you during the week, and it's your interview with
Dana Brown.

Speaker 2 (02:19:26):
The depth and necessarty of your questions are awesome and
you can be my proxy any day. Oh, thank you, brother,
I got you you great, Thank you. Appreciate it, man,
I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (02:19:35):
Very nice.

Speaker 2 (02:19:36):
Kenny, Thank you and got right to the point too.

Speaker 1 (02:19:38):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (02:19:38):
Mike and Cypher and Dynamic, Honny, good job. We love
those calls. Mike, what's going on?

Speaker 8 (02:19:44):
Hey, guys.

Speaker 26 (02:19:44):
I'm trying to be short of the point too as well.
I want to reminist back about a year ago when
a guy named Toup Ertlantern Orlander who was such a
little bit people talking about man he should make the
playoff roster should be leave them off and justin as
a dog as we all on the mountain, and Farmer
is anything far from a dog, maybe be a female dog.
But the question is to make a statement that you

(02:20:07):
just said, Sean, you can't put your arm around him
all the time. You can't top them, the can't baby and.

Speaker 2 (02:20:11):
The great environment here yep, And would.

Speaker 8 (02:20:14):
You think would you even think?

Speaker 26 (02:20:15):
I think, here's that data in this if they talk
about performance, performance performance, Farmer's performance is eighty percent bad
and twenty percent good in the last since all far break,
would you think about leaving him off?

Speaker 8 (02:20:28):
This the wild card series?

Speaker 26 (02:20:29):
For three games, You've got Hunter, You've got Howvier, you've
got apparently Luis's playing, You've got Chaston, you've got Aja
blue Ball. But I think it's a dog. You've got
all kinds of people that for put two out of
those three games. Why do you need Farmers send a
freaking message and wake him up.

Speaker 2 (02:20:45):
He appreciate the call, Mike.

Speaker 7 (02:20:46):
I mean, that's cutting off your nose despite your face
at a certain point.

Speaker 2 (02:20:49):
And I know what I know what my Now. I
see the picture and I appreciate the effort, But Mike,
you and I both know that that's not going to happen.
As matter of fact, I'm going to tell you what.
They're going to run him out first watch. I'm just
telling you it's almost as if we're gonna run him
out FST because you know what you don't.

Speaker 8 (02:21:05):
Want to do.

Speaker 2 (02:21:06):
Mike, you are one hundred percent correct. I get it.
Hell yeah, I think it enters a lot of people's mind.
But you're not leaving off a premier lefty in a player.
You're just not regardless of how Mike, I understand all
of our frustration, and sometimes you're right. An arm around him,
you did, a kick in the ass is what's needed.
But I'm going to tell you why you're not going
to do this, and don't kid yourself. They'll think about

(02:21:29):
that that this thought enters all of our minds. You'll
lose him if you do it that way. He'll be
no good to you. He's not emotionally tough enough to
handle the demotion. And that's exactly what it would be.
We saw it affect another player in this town went
from a closure to an eighth any guy, and he
wasn't the same. And he's been phenomenal here, he was

(02:21:50):
phenomenal here in the postseason. I'm just telling you, when
you get fragility involved in an ace that's got phenomenon
old stuff and you say, hey man, we're starting to
hunter over you or we're taking you out of three
the short series, I wouldn't think you're going to be

(02:22:11):
able to count on him. You might lose him completely.
So you almost have to. I hate saying this, but
you almost got to cater to the emotion. Devil you knows,
devil you don't. Amen. Yeah, that's what it seems if
you finish the sentence of the phrase, it is the
next thing that needs to come out of my mouth. Bam. Fact.
Clearly we got a lot to get to with Dana Brown.

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So we're gonna do that right here.

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Live out there for the Sean Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 7 (02:24:06):
On the Mariners in the West, and it's that time
for US astros GM. Dana Brown joins us at this
time every single week, Sean.

Speaker 2 (02:24:14):
The floor is yours. Yeah, Dana, welcome in. Good to
have you here, first place, three games up in the division,
with you know, twenty or so to go. Dan, let
me start here. We know the injuries are obviously been
talked about all year, but from your team, for the
guys who are in uniform at this stage of the season,
are they executing the way that you want them to

(02:24:37):
on a daily basis.

Speaker 8 (02:24:40):
Look, I don't think we've been as consistent as we
could be, you know, particularly with the with the hitting.
You know, every now and then, you know, our pitchers
might make a mistake, but that's the that's the game
of baseball, right and so you still have to get
out there and battle every day. You know, it's a
grind of one sixty two and we're still in first place.

(02:25:01):
We're up like three games with twenty three to go,
and this group is committed to winning the Vision and
getting back deep into the postseason. So look, we feel
very confident. We've had them ups and downs, the ebbs
and flow of baseball, but at the end of the day,
this is a really good team and these guys are

(02:25:21):
ready to battle.

Speaker 2 (02:25:22):
How good are they, Dana, well deep in the plass
right like today? Are they a World Series caliber team
right now today? Not talent but performance.

Speaker 8 (02:25:32):
Yeah, So think about it. So, you know, if you
were into the postseason right now, you probably would have,
you know, a rotation of Brown, Valdez, you know, Hoavi
Air and you know the fourth spot would probably be
you know, up in the air. But then you would have,
you know, a good bullpen. You know, at the end
of the day, our pen is still good even after

(02:25:53):
losing Hater, you know, and their lineup is pretty good.
You know, you've got a chance to get Pereti's back.
I think Peretis is gonna uh, you know, start some
baseball activity today. We're getting Myers back potentially this weekend,
and then the rest of our lineup with the Jordon
factor coming back. I mean, Jordon has been you know,
really good. You know, he's got an over five hundred

(02:26:14):
on base percentage, you know, and he's been like six
for eighteen or whatever it is, so he's hitting over
three hundred. So you know, it's going to take a
little bit of time to get you know, in sync.
But I think the boys are just around the corner.
So look, we're you know, the fact that we're still
three games up. We're at this point in the season.

(02:26:36):
We battled through all the injuries. All of that should
mean something, right, and so you've gone through an entire
season with all of those injuries, the guys that battled
their way all the way. We're still three games up
and we're looking for that hot streak to you know,
to put the nail in this thing and uh, you know,

(02:26:57):
win the division, to get back to the posts.

Speaker 2 (02:26:58):
And you mentioned Dana, you'd talked last week and about
Jordon's presence when he's in and you saw it rear
it's head last week when he got in there with
day game. Uh, he was available to pinch hit, sitting
there and they decided to pitch the Christian Walker and
Walker delivered, right, They made a pitching change, Walker comes
up delivered. So you saw that impact. So let me

(02:27:19):
push that forward. If he's healthy and he's had rest
for one hundred games, why with the grind that we're
talking about, and you know what has to happen. But
you know, you're a smarter baseball man than we are.
But the passion of the fans, and I'm curious what
the right now? The ball's not heavy, his legs arrested.
If he's healthy, why isn't he in the lineup every
single day? Aren't we at that stage now?

Speaker 8 (02:27:41):
Yeah, that's a good question. So this is part of
his build up, and he had one more game that
we wanted to, you know, allow him the rest because
you're still you know, you're still at that build up part.
We've we've pushed them hard enough, you know, and we
wanted to give him that one more day. Probably going
to play the rest of the you know, the rest
of the season, you know, as long as he feels good.

(02:28:03):
But you give him that chance to take the day
off because you're still in that build up. Mod you
got to remember, he didn't play for almost four months
and that's like, you know, longer than the offseason, so
you have to allow him a chance to build up
and you don't want to reaggravate anything. And he's been
doing so well that we want to really, you know,

(02:28:23):
protect him because we're gonna need him down the stretch
with those last twenty games and in the postseason, so
we don't want to take any chance. And so we
gave him another day off. And now if the plan
is that, you know, we can give him like five
or six in a row, because he is building up
still and we're pushing him. We're pushing him pretty hard.

Speaker 2 (02:28:46):
So are these decisions and data Brown asked for his
Jim for his weekly visit is always grateful to have
him on Dana. Is this do you guys go to
jord and say, okay, on a daily basis, how do
you feel? And I'm sure that he is a competitor,
he wants to play. Who's making the decision? How he
feels daily? And the build up? Is it you guys
trying to prevent him from getting in his own way?

(02:29:07):
Or is it him saying I could use another day off?
Which one is it?

Speaker 8 (02:29:11):
Well, it's collective.

Speaker 5 (02:29:12):
Right.

Speaker 8 (02:29:13):
So it's the first thing. It's two things. So the
first thing is you, you know, as a group, we
talk and we try to put out a plan for
him in terms of coming back, right, And so we
set a schedule, and then after we set the schedule,
we of course have to ask the player, Hey, how
do you feel?

Speaker 3 (02:29:30):
Right?

Speaker 8 (02:29:30):
I feel pretty I feel pretty good. And so as
long as he continues to feel good, we're gonna we're
gonna play him and we're gonna put him in the lineup.
But we still have to go by the schedule that
we set. And so, look, he's to the point where
he's probably gonna get at least five or six in
a row, you know, but you want to build up
to that point. And you've got to remember four months off.

(02:29:51):
It's four months off, yep. You know, you can be
well arrested, but you still have to get back to
the build up so that you don't you know, re
injure anything. And I think that this is the plan
that we set for.

Speaker 2 (02:30:04):
Yeah, and this is more in microw And I'll always
lean on you for this, and even more so than
than fans that want to know. So let's say five
games in he's raking and your plan was on the
sixth game to give him a day off. And you
go to him and he says, I feel great. Does
he stay in the lineup or do you get him
that day off?

Speaker 8 (02:30:22):
Yeah? At that point, you because it's five in a row,
you can roll with them, right, But when when you're
when you're building them up, and you let them get one,
then two in a row, then three in a row,
you know, then you know four or five in a row,
and then he still feels good, and that's a good sign.
I mean, you could probably roll with it when you
give him like five in a row, but you really

(02:30:43):
want to protect them, right, and so that look, that's
the schedule we set out. I mean, you know, right,
wrong or indifferent, but you have to have some type
of plan. You know, when a guy is coming back,
you just can't throw him in the fire and say
go get him now. Look if this is the postseason game, of.

Speaker 2 (02:30:59):
Course, you know, yeah, but we're getting to that point
day on a day to day basis, you know, one
series difference and you know this, I'm not telling anything.
You don't know that all of them almost feel like
single elimination games, even with a three game lead. You know,
the urgency. I'm not telling anything you don't know, So
for for me with this, go ahead, I'm sorry, go
ahead and finish you go ahead?

Speaker 8 (02:31:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (02:31:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:31:19):
The fact is there is urgency, but they're not one
run games. Right, We're up by three, and you still
have to try to stick to your you know, your
plan of how do you feel you're on good? What's
the schedule? Okay, let's follow the schedule. So but right now,
he's to the point where we're gonna run. We're gonna

(02:31:41):
run him out five in a row, and and and.

Speaker 2 (02:31:43):
See what it's Can you win a championship without him
in the lineup right now at the plate?

Speaker 19 (02:31:49):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (02:31:49):
It would be very difficult. But you know, we always
feel like we can win. You can't say that, look,
oh we lose one guy, we're cooked, right, I mean
that's not the attitude. I remember, you know, when I
was in Atlanta we lost a conya. You know we
still won the World Series.

Speaker 3 (02:32:03):
Right.

Speaker 8 (02:32:03):
You can't say, you know, you can't say if you
lose one guy, your cooked. But with that said, Sean,
nobody wants to lose their number one hitner, right, nobody.

Speaker 2 (02:32:14):
As you can tell I want him in the lineup
every day. I'm greedy, Dana, I'm a greedy solb.

Speaker 8 (02:32:20):
I'm as greedy as they get. I'm greedy. I'm filled
with greed when it comes to winning baseball games.

Speaker 2 (02:32:26):
All right, let me move to another subject. We know
how good he is, but the elephant in the room
and it has to be talked about because we've seen
the movie before. You got a left hander that's so
good and fromber at the front, and we know that
we've talked about his stuff. It's elite, but emotionally at times,
the headache sometimes gets in the way of his performance.
And I feel like, and I think a lot of

(02:32:46):
people do looking at the video and some baseball people
that last night wasn't an accident, while there may have been,
you know, construed as wonder how they approach it after
the body language when he turned and walked, Explain to
me what you saw last night and why we should
believe that it was miscommunication as opposed to frustration.

Speaker 8 (02:33:05):
Yeah, that's that's a great question. You know, let's talk
about it.

Speaker 12 (02:33:08):
Right.

Speaker 8 (02:33:09):
So you got a very competitive, very competitive farmer Valdez.
He's pitching against the Yankees. He gives up a home run, right,
a grand slam that kind of like, you know, put
the game out of reach for to speak, right, So
I believe that he was absolutely frustrated. If anybody ever

(02:33:33):
played any sport and you're a competitor, you know how
competitive this game is. You know how competitor other sports is.
You know, you get frustrated, you get rattled, you're get angry,
and so you know this thing's happened, and sometimes you
get so angry you can't see straight. And you know
he crossed them up. You know they had a conversation

(02:33:53):
after the game and they squashed it. I don't think
people understand the competitive nature when you're chasing the panet race,
you're playing in New York Yankees, you have high drama,
and you give up a grand slam, you're down six
to nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:34:11):
That's frustrating that I told people on the thing that
haven't been in those you know played If people only
knew the frustration that we club houses and stuff, they
don't hear about how you know, the competitive nature and
getting out it happens all the time. We just happened
more cameras and social media and you see it. So
with that you hit it perfect, So why not why

(02:34:31):
not say that, Why not just as frustrated we screwed up,
we got it fixed. We're competitors. It happens instead of
I crossed him up by respect because the math doesn't
add up, and I understand the media and the way
we approach it, But why not just say that because
all of our questions are on fromber are not as
any good the fans the questions are is the emotional
wreck where he's going to kill you in a playoff game?

Speaker 8 (02:34:53):
Look, this guy is very competitive. You cross You get
crossed up all the time. Sometimes you get so frustrated
in your mind in the heat of the battle, you're
you're you're anticipating throwing one pitch. A guy calls another pitch,
and you're so frustrated you you forget that what you
what was just called? That is part of the game

(02:35:15):
that happens all the time.

Speaker 2 (02:35:18):
Dan, I know that feeling. I've got it forgotten in
my own water.

Speaker 3 (02:35:21):
Two.

Speaker 2 (02:35:21):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 8 (02:35:23):
Yeah, you get back to the line of scrimmagy. You
forget Oh my god, this happened, And I think that
the the the I don't know why. Look, people always
want to look into different things in sports. It is
the competitive nature of players. It's the same competitor, that

(02:35:45):
competitive nature, it's the same competitive nature that makes you good.
And sometimes that same competitive nature could be part of
what screws up the game.

Speaker 1 (02:35:56):
It just happens.

Speaker 8 (02:35:57):
Let me and I want to I want to put
it to bed. You can get crossed up. It happens.
You forget it happens, Like we should really not dwell
on this. We should move forward. This team is three
games up, we're twenty three to go, and they want
to talk about somebody getting crossed up.

Speaker 2 (02:36:17):
And I go, yeah, and and that's been taken care of,
as you said, so that squelch and in the club houseway,
that's done. All right, now let me move down.

Speaker 17 (02:36:26):
Good.

Speaker 1 (02:36:26):
We had a.

Speaker 8 (02:36:27):
Conversation after the game. You know when when you calm down,
you know, we get into arguments with our you know,
siblings all the time, and you calm down and say,
hey man, you know I mean you say that, I'm sorry.
You know, it happens. It happens. We're human beings in
the in the battle.

Speaker 2 (02:36:43):
Okay, you've seen in the and I we'll end on
this one, Dan, And it's a great conversation and stuff
that we all need to hear. And you know, I'm
gonna ask it. And I appreciate your your your candidate,
how candid you are with it. And he's your guy
and he's at the front of your rotation. Do you,
as a baseball guy, trust that he can handle the
emotion in a bad way in the postseason if it
goes sideways? Are you were you feeling about him right now?

Speaker 1 (02:37:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (02:37:08):
Here, here's what it's called, Sean. This is the this
is the real deal.

Speaker 3 (02:37:11):
Right.

Speaker 8 (02:37:12):
You have these competitors that compete in sports, and you
know what it's called. It's called the mound visit. As
soon as you see him getting a little frustrated, you
head to the mound. You go out there, you talk
to him. In basketball you call a timeout, and football
you call it timeout. You have to go to the
mound and you can give him a mound visit. Ye. Look,

(02:37:35):
I do not. I do not, and I will repeat
this over and over again. I do not want to
pull out the competitive nature of farmber It is the
one thing that makes them really good and a competitive right.
You don't want to take that away from a player.

Speaker 2 (02:37:51):
You don't want to coach it out of him, right,
I get that, no doubt.

Speaker 8 (02:37:54):
Want to coach it out of him. However, you do
have to stay under control. So it's going to take
him ount visit. It's gonna take hey, hey, hey, hey, buddy,
look you just made a hell of a pitch. The
guy flipped the base hit the right, the run scored,
it's over, blush it. Let's go. We gotta get we
got two outs, we gotta get the next hitter. That's
what it's called. That's what that's what it takes to

(02:38:15):
be a champion. And sometimes we have to read it.
And it's exactly why coaches are on top of it
and they call a time out. You know, you have
you have a twelve pitch at back where guy files
the ball off with the bases go to continue to
pile the ball off, hits, the base hit, ties the game,
mound visit, win, settle them down. That's what it's all about.

(02:38:38):
And you have to read the team leaguers of these competitors.
And sometimes it takes just a mound visit and so
let's let's not let's not uh, you know, fall fromer
for being a competitive, mean.

Speaker 17 (02:38:56):
Guy.

Speaker 8 (02:38:56):
That will, you know, do whatever you have to do
to win. Let's keep them under control. And that's the
way I see it. And I don't want to pull
that competitive nature from them, you know, I want them
to continue to compete, and we'll work with them and
try to get them settled down when he gets a
little frustrated. It's all a part of the game. It's
all a part of sports. And you know, you know

(02:39:19):
from looking at championships all across every sport, there's always
this competitor that you have to calm down.

Speaker 11 (02:39:26):
No doubt.

Speaker 2 (02:39:27):
Hey, listen, give me a guy who's a prick on
the mound or a quarterback or a basketball player. I'm
gonna win more than I'm gonna lose. And by the way, Dana,
thanks for the candidness. Awesome. But also, you guys are
still three in front first place, so we can live
with that right now and hopefully it'll continue and you'll
take care of the Yankees. He's next few.

Speaker 8 (02:39:46):
Yeah, three in front, and you got you know, you've
got a middle linebacker and Framburn who's pitching. Right, That's
what it is. Think about it like that. There you go.

Speaker 2 (02:39:54):
We appreciate you man, good luck today, and we'll look
out forward to next Wednesday's conversation. Great stuff, man, Thank you.

Speaker 8 (02:40:00):
All right, Astro fans, let's stay locked in there.

Speaker 2 (02:40:02):
You go, that's Dana Brown. We'll come back and discuss
for a quick few minutes. Great stuff here at Sports
Talk seven ninety and we're there.

Speaker 4 (02:40:10):
The Sewan Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 7 (02:40:13):
A lot of frustration in the building last night, Sean
that we saw and Dana talked about it there mits Yes,
there was frustration, but it's been talked about, squash.

Speaker 2 (02:40:23):
I think it's obvious that it was what we said
it was. He was frustration and it happened. And the
competitive part of it is what Dan is talking about.

Speaker 7 (02:40:32):
And it just feels like we can only go for
that so much more though, and I think that is
going to be the case to the Astros. We're seeing
the end of days for from Berveldez and an Astros Uni.

Speaker 2 (02:40:41):
Oh, they're just not going to pay him that much money. No, no,
don't want to.

Speaker 7 (02:40:45):
He' Sean triple, Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews, appreciate you all
for hopping aboard with us today.

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