Astros Obliterate A's in Game 2, Florida Wins Back-to-Back Stanley Cup Finals, Dana Brown's Weekly Segment

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury to usc Troup's longtime
friend Shawn Salisbury, Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean
Salisbury show.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Here's the one one to smim and that's saying a
mile high the left, fairly deep to left center back
on it is soda strum at.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
The wall looking up see Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Tam Smith goes deep for the fourth time this year,
and the Astros lead is three to nothing.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
Here's the two to two and it's punched the other way,
slicing toward the corner. There's Humble and the Astros left
fielder makes the catch maybe five feet from the foul line,
and Alexander is able to work out of trouble here
with two men left for the A's and the third
break bits and it's correct left field, way out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Two home runs for cam Smith, four of his five
this year against lefties, and a no doubter her.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
To give the Astros a four nothing lead.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Oh my, here's Dubon.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
He doubled his last time up.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
First pitch breaking ball?

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Is that back to back? Cis the jar Dubon back
in Sacramento.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
With authority two zero chopper up the middle to his right,
Dubon flags it down, throws across his body in time
to get Soderstrom and Jason Alexander with a one, two,
three in and he has retired eight in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
It's the summer of Jason Alexander. And with that we
say away we go in Good morning here on the
Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seventy ninety. Stros absolutely club
the last night thirteen to three. So we've been talking
about the Bats for a long time, of sharing our
frustrations at times with the Bats. Last night they show up.

(02:10):
That's great to see. And then welcome to the Astros.
Jason Alexander. He was pretty awesome last night. Where oh,
like you'd expected anything. I mean, you were asking me
before we went on, what do you know about this guy? Said?
Other than what I just saw last night, that's the
extent of what I knew. I think i'd heard his
name when he pitched for the A's, which he was

(02:30):
with the A's earlier on this season. But aside from that,
I knew nothing about this guy.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
Hey man, good morning, good to talk to you. Other
than the name which he's He's more popular than Jason
Alexander here in Houston today and Jason vorhees.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh I think I don't think it's a tough sell
to make him more popular than Boris. Yeah, I'm not
going around with the machete and everything else. I feel
like he probably doesn't carry much fat.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
You don't put enough respect on varheez. That's why.

Speaker 6 (02:58):
Well, wait, last Friday was his chance? Yeah, mean you
don't care about war He's I've noticed you hate him too.
I like you said you hated you hated the fact
they were starting Jason Alexander because you thought he sucked well.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I mean and even maniacole, you know, serial killer. I mean, yeah,
I probably don't like him very much.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Although I mean you know it wasn't him. His mom
was the one who riled him up.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
There you god that the fact. Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 6 (03:21):
Uh, I don't know a lot about Jason Alexander, but
I like what I saw. I mean, I and I
didn't when that blow out. I don't know about you.
I wasn't making it till you know, midnight or whatever
it was.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Once they went up like what six seven nothing, That's
when I said, Okay, I feel particular, but big bats
you look at it.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
I mean all through you got a home run out
of your first basement. Yeah, and another hit yeap, exactly
could be what you'd ever know could be got wrung
up on strikes on a call that was pretty ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Sit down. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
I even heard Jeff Blum. I think I woke up
momentarily and Blummer was like, hey, look, I get what
the game is right now, but I mean, let's at
least have some integrity for the zone.

Speaker 6 (04:04):
I love blumber Man. It but a good win for them.
But the Bats, you know, and after the day before,
they needed last night, and like I said, and watching
Alexander then the little guy did last night, I don't
know how they keep doing this. Man, they know how
to scout and find guys that come here and just elevate.

(04:24):
I know it's a start and it's one time, but
still got a win. Was pretty impressive. What struck out
four I think and walked two or three of them
last night, but he was pretty sharp. And you heard
that clip right there, and what's eight in a row retires?
I'll give you a chance. And when you're getting out
early and jumping out in front, it makes it pretty
I don't want to stay easy, but it sure helps
a pitcher settle in and relax a little more.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
There's no question about it. I mean, that's the biggest thing.
And you were able to do that the start before
for Gusto. You did it a little bit on Monday night.
But I mean one run is hardly not enough of
a jumping off point to be able to say, all right,
we feel really good about this one. But I mean
last night there was no doubt where you're able to

(05:07):
get those early runs. You get the two runs in
the first and then camp Smith not one but two. Yep,
last night, boy, I was wrong about that guy. I
hate to tell you this, but I was right.

Speaker 6 (05:21):
I mean, when will you say right to this point,
I'm obviously joking a bit hyperbolic, but I didn't want
him to learn the minor leagues. He was the best writer,
he was a aside from well in truth, he was
the most explosive offensive outfielder they had.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
In spring train. He just was. He earned it.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
I mean, we do this and say, well, let's send
a guy down, and we can't judge everybody the same
way when it comes to mental toughness dealing with and
he was going to have some struggles early, and he did.
And then the question asked was, well, should you if
you're not going to play him every day, should he
send him down? And my thought the whole time was
why unless he if he shows splashes, which he did

(06:06):
even early and he had a great spring training, I said,
let him play through it.

Speaker 7 (06:10):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
We're back to that. Let's protect everybody and make sure
they're not fragile. Well, some guys are built different and
aren't fragile, and they actually sometimes need a kick in
the ass or need to be challenged or have to
go through struggles and they oh, okay, I go work
on this. And the one thing about they heard all
spring from people all over. Uh, he's doing this against
minor league pitching, as if the other guys weren't. Whether

(06:33):
it's show hey, Otania that they're all doing. You're getting
a little bit of the starters, and you're facing some
guys trying to scramb around and make a team.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
A lot of them are gonna end up in minor leagues.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Off a guy, he'll be bagging groceries in a couple
of weeks.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
Right, Well that's but it's funny if it's a veteran,
we cut them some slack.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
If it's a rookie, it's like, well, there he's playing.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
So if that's your thought process, why would I send
him down to have him get right against guys he
he's dominated.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Play up.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
It's like when you're a kid, if you had a
nine year old, you think he's a good player, play up,
teach him how to compete. It's the same thing here
and the fragility of athletes or the thought or at
least the perception of the way that we and the
fans and media. Oh yeah, but what if what if
he loses confidence? If he loses confidence, then he wasann't
gonna be worth the powder it takes to blow him
to hell n back anyway ten years from now.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
If you can't, if you're gonna lose it.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
But in order to get it back, and to me,
the best way you could get back up, struggle, go
back at it. And I don't know. I don't remember
learning a lot in winning easy. I remember learning a
lot and getting kicked in the teeth and making mistakes
and struggling through the grind and saying, Okay, that's what
it's supposed to look like. Camp Smith to me, I
didn't think. To me it was a no brainer. I

(07:46):
thought he was your best dollar. There wasn't many people paying.
He had a good spring that played better than him
in the spring. Oh, I know, but it's minor league pitching. Well,
pain you face the same pitching. So point for me
is that I I don't we are overprotective of young players.
If they're good enough, put him out there. If the
freshman's as good as a senior, play the freshman. I'm
talking about high school on down, I don't care if

(08:08):
that does not matter to me. If I got a
freshman kid walks into high school and you've got a
senior that's been there and grinded, but my team wins
better with the freshman, guess who's playing the freshman. Love
to get you, It's just it's not a feel good thing.
It's like, we're here to win, right. I taught you
the lesson when we were six, where we're everybody plays
different positions.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Now we do keep score.

Speaker 6 (08:30):
And so with cam Smith just felt the guys are
built different and he could have handled and an asking
questions of the people around him, you know, on that
staff and on that team, it's like, yeah, he believes
he can handle it, and he's handled it just fine.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
And if this is any indication on the ascent, talk
to me in twenty twenty seven, how good the guy's
going to be If this is scent continues right, an
understanding player, he just this different player, hints why the
Austros wanted him. Came your number one prospect instantly, and
he's playing like a number one prospect.

Speaker 7 (09:04):
So I.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
To me, there are certain guys there's no guarante V say, Okay,
he'd have to really struggle, really be bad for me
not to continue to run him out there and let
him work his way through it, especially on a team
this year that needed outfield help.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Well, I mean it's one offensive, one defense. Offensively, if
you just look completely overmatched, then you can understand that.
But even during his struggles, you never really got the
impression of, oh man, this is waying over his head.
This is too much for this guy. And then defensively
it would have been if he you know, taking terrible
angles to the ball. He looks lost out there in

(09:38):
right field. But I mean it got so much to
the point where you put east Soak Peretis on the
shelf for a few days, not on the il, but
where it's all right, Hey, you're gonna need somebody to
play third bass. Cam Smith the possibility, and Joe Spotta
emphatically said, no, he's a right fielder.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
Right And for me to the second you saw him play. Now,
I know that if you're an outfield coach, you see
little subtle things like like I might you might not
as a quarterback teacher, right, but you may know the position,
but something I might say, yeah, that's a good throw,
but he can get into trouble with that arm bang
whatever it is.

Speaker 8 (10:13):
Right.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
The same with cam Smith as I think Steve Sparks
had told us too, you know, learning how to take
angles and all the things you do out there. But
from day one, for the majority of it, you tell
me if you didn't know who camp Smith was and
you went to the ballpark as a baseball fan. Forget
the experts who come on TV that some of them
aren't experts. They just think they are because they played

(10:34):
or they've been hosting a show. They want to tell
camp Smith that he had to play the position better
than he knows how to play the position. It's fascinating
to me.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
But baseball doesn't seem to have him as much.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
But yeah, oh yeah, and then then that doesn't mean
you can't have an opinion, right right, right right?

Speaker 4 (10:52):
You get my point.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
You want to have a run lead here because it's
better to have an even run lead.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
What yeah, huh yeah, so well you you you, you know,
you get the points that sometimes and we all have
predictions and opinions, but I think sometimes it's a little
too hot takeish, right sure about Wow, the guy's going
to be a Hall of Famer. The guy is going
to be out of the league in two years when
we don't even know anything about him. So in watching
him play right field, if you never saw him or

(11:17):
didn't know his background, and he went to the ballpark
and watched him play seventy games or fifty seven or
eight sixty, how many he's.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Played in good samples, you tell right, you.

Speaker 6 (11:27):
Tell me what time you did you at any point time,
you're leaning over to the guy next to you and saying, is.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
This guy usually an outfielder? He sure didn't look like it.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
You know what I'm saying? Where you kind of see
you guys lose.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
It's like you look at Manny Ramier's yeh, yeah, he
was an outfielder, but he really wasn't an outfielder. You
get my point, h right, So, but there's never been
a time for me that I've watched the guy and thought,
why that's not his natural position. It feels to me
like he came into the league and that being an

(11:59):
outfielder and it can and a corner outfielder right fielder inspecific,
was how he's played his whole career, and that isn't
the case. So I just I'm impressed by him, and
I just think, think about this. If it goes like's
supposed to do, in about two or three years, Melton's
going to be in a lineup, Dezenzo's going to be

(12:19):
in a lineup. Cam Smith's going to be a budding
superstar in the league in twenty By then he'd be
one of those guys like wow, if this continues, you
start to look around at what this looks like. And
people talk about when windows open and close, if they
parlay into what we think they're going to be and
what the early signs have shown for them, tell me

(12:39):
why the windows closed.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
It's not seeming that way right now. Just heard John Lynch.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Talk about as forty nine er said, we needed to
get younger and cheaper in the offseason, and they did.
We'll see how it pays off. The Astros while having
a good mix of veterans, are getting younger, and we
know they're getting cheaper. You don't have to pay Kyle Tucker.
You didn't pay pregnant. Sure, not cheap, but cheap, right,
So this team is a great The window's not closing, dude,

(13:05):
and you may be in two years from now say
the windows not only closed, it's back to being open
like it was when Korea.

Speaker 9 (13:11):
And Bregman were new in this league.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
It's just at first team that was limited with what
happened with the sign stealing, limited to be able to
continue to move chess pieces and even the goalposts when
they've needed to. Lookouts worked out for them, and there's
a lot of ifs, but there's ifs for every organization.
If this number one prospect, if this guy Paul Skins
for Pittsburgh, it's worked out. So there's just certain guys

(13:38):
this team, the transition time when it's time, say okay,
I'll two Vase two years older. The pitching, where did
we pay from all those things, it's it's going to
pay off. And they've got but three or four guys,
you say, man, a couple more years of experience, and
this is going to be nuts to have to face
this lineup pretty good looking.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
It is. It's it's a good feeling to have. And
you're only half a game back of the Yankees right
now for the second best record in the American League.
You're four and a half back of the Tigers. So
for all the complaining about how the AL West is
is division and you know where the Astros stack up
to everybody else, which for the most part, I think
people can agree that it doesn't necessarily, you know, really

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intimidate you with either of those teams in front of you.
So the Astros making people believe yet again. And right
now four and a half games up on the Mariners
in the West seven one three two one two five
seven ninety the number to get in against seven one
three two one two five seven to ninety. How about
that Astros pitching. We'll talk about them right here. It
is the Sean Salisbury Show on a Western Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven
ninety sport your Astros, your ruckets, your.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
Voice, they're just basically said, they're just they're really good. Yeah,
he said, we'd never quit. We played hard, all the
things you say, and he said, but they're they're they're
they're a really good team. And they are same two teams,
one game six, one game seven, back to back years
in Florida. But when you get Bbrowski, who's phenomenal, stands

(15:20):
on his head on a regular basis, he doesn't no
you get you don't get to do much man with
him there, you don't get many chances. And when you
when dry Seidel who's a great goal scorer, and Connor McDavid,
who's as good as we have in a league, and
their captain he scored one goal in six games.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
He's strong between the pipes.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
There you go, there you go, go, all the good
hockey league, the boards. But it's all of it, yeah,
I mean, and it just kind of shows you that
they were quicker to the puck and everything. And I watched,
you know, some part of every game, and I was
watching last night because I thought, actually that Edmonton will
give him something. I was kind of looking forward to
a Game seven and right keep the cup in the

(16:02):
United States, no disrespect, but that's that's not about thing.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
That's been a minute, dude, how about that? I don't know, but.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
Hockey right exactly. But they did all those things and
just like little mistakes. I was watching, like for Hage
hit a shot, it was like a little waffler at
the goal and they made. The score was two zero
at the time, and it was the second period, and
the goaltender, Everton's goldtender also had to do is glove it. It
was one of those easy catches because they're around again

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and they had they'd been skating a long time and
they made a.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Great point ball.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
He didn't try to catch it, just kind of kicks
off his pad and it was an easy catch. Standing up,
goes to the ice, rebound, hits off a skate, goes
in after the shot by Verhege, and all he had
to do is catch it. Stop the thing. Now they
can substitute, and I'll be damned. Boom boom, and it's
in the goal and that's three nothing, and then it's
almost and it's the end of the second period. It's
almost so deflating. And it was a little simple things

(16:59):
like that, dude, you'd catch that. Matter of fact, the
guys on the ice when the ball was like waffling
in it wasn't smoked. The guys in front of the
goal kind of just stopped thinking, Oh, it's gonna be
a catch and we're gonna have a face off, right right,
Well follow up boom, Barkoff hits the follow up and
it goes in the net off a skate. It's like,
now it's three nothing. That's a lot to overcome when

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Bebrowski's playing like he's playing right. So it was a
it congratulates to Florida. I know maybe a lot of
people don't watch. I'm a huge hockey fan, but just
I was actually surprised that Florida put him away that
harshly in game for six. Really, but man, these guys
are and we talked about you and I before the show.
Brad Marshaw and he the captain of Boston wants to
finish his career there. Oh they up and trade him

(17:42):
to where Florida strengthen another team and they go out
and get a second Stanley Cup. They did it right,
and it's a it's a good watch, but I was,
I was surprised and Nick David they gave him no room.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Man, It was.

Speaker 6 (17:53):
It was a It was a really good watch. When
you're watching that and the Astros are kicking acid makes
for a makes for a good night of sports on
a Tuesday during the week.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, it wasn't It wasn't too bad. And uh, you
know the funny thing is I saw this online. I
think it was Barstool that had that. Apparently Edmonton fans
were trying to get the Flasher, you know, the chick
from last year that got a little excited at the
game and then the.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
One with tremendous upper body stand over the right shoulder
of the who is oh, over the right shoulder of
was it Edmonton or floor? No if there was a
panthers on his right shoulders supper.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Body streke, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they tried to get her.
And my favorite with her last year was when she
did the video like underneath the bridge explaining herself and
she was like, She's like, so I got a little
drunk and I got a little excited. So what exactly
that was?

Speaker 7 (18:44):
That was?

Speaker 6 (18:44):
Boys, they got some mileage out of that, did they intended?

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah? Yeah, well I was gonna say they they definitely
took advantage of that. Uh that move as much as
they could.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
Everybody thought, wow, the camera's on the the head coach. No,
it was on head coach. But yeah, but the truth is,
and the I mean it was like it was like
product placement every single game, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (19:07):
It was.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
It was classic. But they I don't know if she
helped win a Stanley Cup. But they've got back to
back ers and they're impressive. And I don't I don't
look at them and think that there's any reason why
when you got that goaltender that you're not going to
be backing it again next year.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Now, there is no reason. They are a pretty good
little bunch. So the Florida Panthers Stanley Cup champions for
the second straight year. We need hockey in this town.
We need it badly in this town. And hopefully that'll
happen sooner rather than later. How about the Astros pitching, man,
it's it's to the point, Sean, where I mean, you know,

(19:41):
are we ever going to get to a point where
all right, this guy's called up? Oh man, well, I
hope he can only do a little like last night
for Alexander, for you know, the amount of time that
he'd been out, which the last win he had gotten
they said, was June of twenty twenty two, so he
had not gotten a major league win since then. He
bounced around the myor leagues since twenty two to this

(20:03):
year with the A's and then he got let go
by the A's and picked up by the Astros. I
don't know if there's a mind warping machine. I don't
know what the hell happens, or if it's just a
belief as soon as you step into the building of
hey worked out for this guy, why can't it work
out for me?

Speaker 6 (20:18):
Yeah, it's it's a good thing. And like I said,
I don't know that much about him. I know, I
know he was with the A's and stuff, but I
really don't.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
I don't. I don't know. If you say, Sean, what
round was he draft to have?

Speaker 1 (20:27):
No idea? You could have put ten people in front
of me him included last night and said, hey, can
you guess who Jason Alexander episode had been like at
number seven?

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Right?

Speaker 1 (20:35):
That's not him, Okay, just crapshoot.

Speaker 9 (20:38):
Right.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
And if you said, Sean, well, where do you go
to school?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
No idea? Well, now I know that exactly what was it?
Cal State? I think Menlo Park.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
Something that that's up in northern cal Menlo Park's right
near Stanford.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Menlo Park. And then what was another one? He's from Windsor, California. Uh,
he went to Long Beach State.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Oh, there you go.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
He was a dirt bag fun program too. I was
gonna say, I don't think you could say was a
dirt bag. I mean wants a dirt bag.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
Always, and you wear its a badge of honor, no doubt.
So I didn't know anything about him. But you're exactly right.
When are we gonna get the guy comes up and says, man,
he really is, he's he's send him back down. He's
not that good, right. It's weird, how and weird in
a good way. But here's the problem. It also spoils
the hell out of us and makes it difficult for
the next guy. It's great because they're like every single time, Now,

(21:29):
I got lots of standard to live up to. But
for us, imagine one guy coming down and for three
straights are coming up and for three straight starts, he's
like struggles. They got to send him back down right
away because he's overwhelmed. You know what we're gonna do.
It's like, oh the guy, so you know, instead of
the normal Oh man, this is how it happens. The
guys struggle. They're learning that way, we're gonna expect the
guy to come in and give you seven and two

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thirds with four hit ball and one run in his
first start. I mean, it's it is You're right, is there?
They got some hyperbaric chamber that makes these guys different
when they come here, or there's maybe a sense of,
I don't know that you have a lot to live
up to, or maybe there's a sense of there's just
something about the locker room, or there were people around
the league know about this franchise, that's the thing. So

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there's almost as if when you get off, it's like, okay, well.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
What wouldn't it be different if you let let's say.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
You go to a juco and there's really good sports
played at jucos, as we well know sure, and buddies
of mine that have coached and played it and went
on to be have great careers. But when you go
from that juco, at least in our thought process, when
you step up, it's like, man, this is a different level, right,
And then a guy hit the ground running and going
He's a dog on Division one All American his first

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years as a D one school. Point is is that
some when you see it, they elevate your play. If
you went from a Juco el Camino to USC, You're like, Okay,
I got a lot to prove, but I'm ready for
this because I thought I could have been that guy anyway,
but I got hurt my senior year, didn't get the scholarship.
But I know what I'm headed to because of the reputation.
Players know. Sure, it's the same thing here. It's gotten

(23:02):
to the point now you can't The biggest talk here
is are the astros. You know, the way they continue
to grind and do their stuff and their resilience, but
also make no mistake they're they're pitching and how they
keep doing this. Guys know and I it's to the
point where why wouldn't you want to be a part
of it? Well, why why wouldn't you want to be

(23:23):
a part of it? Because your game elevates here? And
if it's just selfish to get paid, there's ain't a
bad place to have it for your bridge Because this
is a do you know that there the organization for
the most part and every does it right. But the
development is about as good as there is in baseball.
It really is. And it's not just pitchers. Cam Smith

(23:44):
looks ready, the Zenzo looks ready. Melton's not far away.
I mean you start to look at what they do.
Pain You wasn't supposed to do this right off the
bat didn't didn't play a lot of Triple A baseball? Yeah,
would you trade him for Carlos Korea?

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Today?

Speaker 7 (23:58):
No?

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yes day?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yesterday?

Speaker 9 (24:01):
Maybe?

Speaker 4 (24:01):
No, you wouldn't have you.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Know, am I right?

Speaker 4 (24:03):
You would not if they said one for one right now?
Would you do it?

Speaker 7 (24:06):
No?

Speaker 6 (24:07):
Wouldn't even think about it. I wouldn't. And that's saying
something right. So hell, and we've heard, we've already heard
people say we're gonna make people forget about Kyle Tucker.
Tucker's gonna get paid about four hundred and fifty million
next year. He was gonna forget about you, right, So
it's just it's it's not even a homer because we
live I'm fascinated by it, and I can't imagine people

(24:27):
in other cities aren't as well. No, I mean it's
hard to isn't normal? Is what I'm saying. And to
be able to keep bringing doing this with all the loss.
It's just not normal.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
That's I mean, that's where you start to get people
out there looking around saying, man, what the hell are
they doing down there? You know clearly it wasn't the
trash cans idiots.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Yeah, you know, just like last night, which they were
actually fairly skilled. Which there there is something. What does
the pitch you have to do with the trash can here?

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (24:51):
You suck you use the trash can? No, actually I
don't hit right, okay, sorry, yeah, I just throw the pitch.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
It was confidence when I was throwing bullpen sessions again,
or your batting practiction against my own team because they
were using the trash can during batting practice.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
I mean's just stop it right enough. There's something on
that too, because it's happened in this series, and I
do want to share that next, so we'll do that.
Also to what was once a strength, or which was
was was once a weakness, is now maybe a strength
for this team, we'll talk about it here. It is
a Sean Salisbury show, Sports Talk seven ninety. The seven
ninety listener line in the six o'clock hour is brought

(25:26):
to you by one eight hundred car cash. I'm finished, Bennis,
the Bennis brothers are no longer around. If I wake
Upmer Newman Newman in there.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
But if we wake up and then all of a sudden,
they've they They've signed a kid whose last name's Kramer
and a bullpen reliever, a reliever, a reliever whose David
Seinfeld and Jason Alexander's on the mount.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, that's that day.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
I quit.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
I retire and just throw my hands up in the
air and say this is that, this can't And then
we get a picture of them sitting in the dugout
and they've turned their back to get like some some
gator raiders, some sunflower seeds and in line it says
Seinfeld on the back of the jersey, Alexander and Venison
Andramer chalking up and finished. Dude, I'm like, okay, I've

(26:24):
seen it all or anybody the last name his first Dave, Larry. Yeah,
good luck.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
But in truth.

Speaker 6 (26:32):
Es fascinating, fascinating the way this team's doing it. And
the thing for me is it's not the loss the
night before, well, it's a bummer walk off, get beat,
But Dan, it's like in the next day, right or
the next time. And I know this sounds cheesy, but
I always am looking for the how they react and respond,
and teams that aren't them lose two, three, four in

(26:55):
a row against this team. Teams that are them say, okay,
not not embarrassed, but we will here in Sacramento, and
they beat us on a walk off. Thanks for changing
into your throwing Jason Alexander. But then talk about talk
about guys in the clubhouse, feeling like, okay, it almost
felt to me that they said new guy had some
major league experience, semi journeyman, minor league player. Basically right,

(27:19):
we got him here, We got to get without him
knowing just this is hyperbolic, but kind of like all right, fellas,
like the players only not counting Alexander meeting, we got
to post ten for him.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
They didn't need to.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
But almost that feeling of let's elevate man, this is
this is a young guy's new here. Let's let's let's
elevate him man, and let's get him right. Plus he's
coming back to where he played, Let's give him a
let's make sure his welcome back is a good one.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
And I almost felt it almost felt.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
That it was like, okay, that there was no way
that they were gonna win three to two. Last night
they did, they were gonna post and they did. And
the bats, the long ball bats went haywire last night,
which you could regularly, No.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
You absolutely could. And last night the astros, as I mentioned,
you get two from camp Smith, you get one from
Christian Walker, you get one from Mauricio Dubon. Who am
I leaving Homer last night to run Homer out of him?
And finally gets a hit?

Speaker 4 (28:15):
And your your guy did Paradis Homer last night?

Speaker 6 (28:18):
Was that did not pay? Didn'ty Homer the night before?

Speaker 1 (28:21):
He did?

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Before?

Speaker 1 (28:22):
There you go, yeah, so and you know role two
did but he has reasonably right right.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
So yeah, right?

Speaker 6 (28:29):
And now but but uh, Paradis has fifteen though, right
he does.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Maybe it's because I mean I threw out the tweet
that if Paradis had straightened out about half of the
you know, foul ball home runs that he's hit this
year because.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
Some manytimes we've seen that might be at twenty five. Oh,
he'd be challenging cal Rawley right now, no doubt about it.
So but it was and great at the bottom of
the order, you got a bunch of home runs too,
you know what I'm saying down low, and then you
got some production from like you said, Christian Walker and stuff.
So it almost felt as I said, we're not gonna
put this this picture in a position where he's got

(29:02):
a grind and pitch well, and we walk out here
and we gave him two runs and put pressure on
the bullpen again. Last night's one of those where you
could take a deep sigh and you know, no matter what,
once you post that your bullpen's been so good, there's
no way you're blowing that lead.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
And the rest was history.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
You get from or going tonight. And last night you
used Caleb Ort for an inning and then Bennett's SUSA
for a couple to be able to lock things down,
and the Astros only hold the A's to four hits.
So that was nice to see. Last night. I had
talked about, you know something from last night, you know,
speaking of the hypocrisy and you know, just opposing fan bases. Yeah,

(29:40):
and I threw this out on Twitter because I heard,
you know, a fan reactions to whenever Jose Altuvea had
come up, and you'd have a couple of loud mouths.
It's a minor league park, so you can catch it
on the field, Mike, pretty easily. Your team isn't even
your team, They're playing in a minor league park and
there in last place. Shut your mouth, seriously, shut your mouth.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Is it just become just just to the point.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
And most of these they don't even know the situation
of not even close, right, So I just get to
a point, and if you're him, you just it's almost
now you got to flip the script and just take
it as And he handles it great well. Jessica Kleinschmidt,
who's covered the a's for some time. You've done jess
for a long time, and she's great at it.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
She is. And she even threw that out there after
l TV hit the home run on Monday. It was
if you boo the guy, that's what happens, stop doing
it right.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
It's a And he's done that his whole career and
since that, since that happened, he's made people pay plenty.
So but he just handles it well. And Jess is
exactly right. The thing too with him, and this is
I'm just trying to read into I understand people's disdain
for what happened. There's the same. Save the self righteous crap,

(30:47):
because we know other things. The team got caught and
it's a good guinea pig, and I get all that.
And they made their own bed they did. They deserve
some punishment for it. I get it.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
But the guy.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
That's it's amazing.

Speaker 6 (30:57):
If it's proved that he didn't do it, they're still, oh, well,
he was under the umbrella, so he's the worst. Why
because he's been our best player for a long time.
He's going to the Hall of Fame. It's almost got
to a point where it's a fad or a fashion that, oh,
let's we just got a boo Altuv and throw f
bombs on him or call him certain names when if
people say that, there can't be five nicer, better people

(31:19):
in baseball than him, honestly, guys that come to mind,
I think, and there's plenty of them, But Freddie Freeman
seemed like that guy. Aaron Judge feels like that guy.
To me, Altuve feels like that. There's a lot of
them that just like they're just good dudes.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Man.

Speaker 6 (31:32):
No matter what team they go for, people are magnetized
to them.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
They love being around them.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
Even if it was eight teams they're just certain guys
that you don't have to ask for it. It's just
part of it. It's not even just leadership, it's it's
buy in. I don't know, reputation. If Altuve walked into Boston,
they'd fall in love with him. If Altuve walked into
to the A's and Sacramento, to the Dodgers or to
the Yankees, they would welcome him and say we got
better in the n W. The fan and all of

(31:57):
them would fall in love with him. Forget just as playing.
There's nothing not to like about the guy. And so
the ironic thing is you're you're taking him and like
throwing him into the You know, this is one of
the worst dudes we've ever seen yet. It's one hundred
and eighty degrees different, and he's done it all the
right way his whole career.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
He could have very easily, and we've talked about this before,
he could have very easily had said, yeah, you know what,
I had nothing to do with it. I was against it,
all of these other things he's been He's been approached
to have that opportunity numerous times, and he said no.
The one time that I've heard him talk about it,
on the record is he said I was part of
the team. So if I was part of the team,
we were all doing it.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
And think and think about this, Now, what kind of
teammate I mean, think about that. That's one of those
move to left field, move here, do this move out
of the one. But more importantly, even in the biggest
scandal that they've been through here, when I say it's
scans not scandal, I guess what it is. But the
problem is that this dude still wasn't willing just to

(32:59):
save himself his reputation to clear it, to be willing
to throw teammates under the bus when it would have
been very easy because oh, okay, so he was one.
Imagine now then you look around, even though you know
he didn't do it, he's gonna take flak.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
He's he's he's he.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
Steps up, and I'm in the same locker room, the
old guilt by association. Oh well, see to me that
that's how teammates supposed to be. I just I'm to
the point where it's now just white noise.

Speaker 8 (33:27):
Man.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
That's why these guys would go to the gates of
hell for him.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
They will, and so would anybody else. And the people
that blew him, would love him. I'm just telling you,
I gotta do just have just see him for five
minutes around people and the rest of it, and I just.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
I just don't get it.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
But I also don't think they get it or understand
just what they're just who the who the guy is
and aside from being a great player, So I just
it's gotten to the point where it's just white noise
to me.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Well, we're already seeing it with Bregmant in Boston. I mean,
of oh, what a hard worker, what a great guy
on man, he's the he's the lifeblood of this team.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
Pitomizes what parking a run.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
So oh he is okay, good, good to know. It's
good to know. Speaking of this, Randall and Sugarland see
you're right there. You want to join him seOne three
two one two five seven ninety. Speaking of this, I mean,
you know, is the guy necessarily so unpopular? Well, there
are some numbers that would fly in the face of that.
We'll talk about it here. It is Sean Salisbury show.

(34:23):
Let the celebration start.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Or Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
It's a Sean Salisbury show. Since he hit his last
home run and the funny thing is is the last
time he homered April eighteenth, two home runs. Well, there
you go, so we did it again last night.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
I like it.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
You're gonna get a lot of those in his career.
There's no doubt he is. He is the aircraft carrier,
as they call him.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
You do you like that?

Speaker 6 (34:47):
You said broke out the lumber last night. Do you
think a good nickname for a team that hits well
would be the lumber company? Lumberyard, lumberyard, Yeah, lumber company.
Do you think any team is ever been nicknamed the
lumber company?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I'd have to go look that up. I'm going to
say that there is. I mean there was the Bash Brothers.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Yeah, I'm going to say that there is a Numberjacks
Lumbers that no.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
You know, get a bunch of guys playoff beards. You
got that Google machine in front of you.

Speaker 6 (35:13):
Yeah, say pittsbur Say who was nicknamed the lumber company?
And I'm gonna say it was the Pittsburgh Pirates. We
are family that group right around there.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
I don't know why.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
Maybe I dropped it up and it's going to come
back and say nobody but you hit lumber and you
know how am I'm a wealth of useless knowledge.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
You're right, was that nineteen seventies they were the lumber company.
There you go.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, So when you said it.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
I'm thinking somebody was nicknamed that. Then it hit me
and I thought, well they were, we are family. It
was the kent To Colviy led Pittsburgh Pirates and Willie
Stargell and Parker in that career.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
It was their ability to knock down opposing pictures, much
like Lumberjack knocking down tree.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
So it was so I didn't dream it up to
see what happens, Like I said, a wealth of useless
stargel Al Oliver, Yeah, sing Gian Dave Cash, Dave Cash
in the middle infielder. You had Bill Madlock after he
left the Dodgers was a third basement for a while,
Rennie stanted at second base, Omar Marino, Parker. At one

(36:12):
point in time they had Uh. I think Richie Hebner
was there. I'm giving you old school stuff here.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
I'm liking it. I'm liking it. I think I think
a lot of Tson was on the mound.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
John Candelariat Group, candy Man, Yeah, kent To Coolby was
your teeth Candelarian Boy, did. He some choppers, Buddy, and
then camp to Kolby was the skinny side he did.
They dropped down way low and had the glasses on.
Looked like Ikabad crane with glasses, but could bring it. Yeah,
they were something Man and Stargell pumping balls. Starge was

(36:42):
one of the only like three or four players in
the history. They hit a ball on the right roof
in Dodger Stadium, hit the ball above the roof and
right field in the right field pavilion. Stargill put the
ball back there. Yeah, so the lumber coming in. For
a minute, I thought I dreamed it up. But I'm
glad that you brought the lumber up.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
You know, it just reminds me of, like, you know,
just the guys you had back in the seventies, eighties,
and nineties. Reminds me of the old Mel Allen. This
Week in Baseball twin notes in Houston, I'm Mel Allen
for this Week in Baseball. Yeah, and in Cincinnati.

Speaker 6 (37:14):
Yeah that you talk about a guy who Papa Grit.
You talk abou Jim Leon Dave Parker. Now, yeah, Dave
Parker had no problem firing up a grit and then
going hitting three thirty and throwing somebody out.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
He's back when guys are in the clubhouse.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
Yeah, after games, Kenny Staple told me a great story
about that. He goes, Man, you come into our locker
with the Raiders at halftime. He goes, it was basically
like being in an old school bar where you could
smoke it, the fog of it, and he said, I'm
gonna play better in the second half while he's puffing on.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
It, grit, take his pats off. Well, it's like the
famous photo that's out there of Dayln Dawson where he's
got a cannon at the Super Bowl in front of
him and then he's just it's.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
A bottle of it's a bottle of tab. No, it
wasn't tab. It's Fresco.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Fresco.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
That bottle of green bottle of Fresco underneath this his
chair while he's firing up a grit at halftime of
a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
But nothing says athlete like firing up a smoke. Well,
I know that briefly. Yesterday we talked about this and
we can carry this over to but we talked about
Jeremy Pania being third in the All Star voting. But uh,
you know for all of the Oh I hate Jose Altuve,
He's played eighteen games at second base this year. He's
the third highest vote getter at second base, and Jordan

(38:26):
Alvarez hasn't played a game in nearly two months now.
He's fourth for designated hitters. So yeah, people hate the Astros.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
Yeah, thanks for paying attention. How many games they've played it?

Speaker 10 (38:37):
Right?

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Exactly? Amazing? Right?

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Yeah, Oh Alvarez he's still good. Right, No, if you
looked up this to its we don't care. He's really good.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah. Okay, people are a trip.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
They really are. They really are. What are you gonna do? Randal, Ronnie,
see you guys right there, Get you guys involved in
the conversation. You want to join him? Seven one three
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(40:01):
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getting some of you in on the phone lines. Let's
start off with Randall and sugar Land. Randall, good morning, Hey,
good morning guys.

Speaker 11 (40:15):
You know my nickname for the Astros would be the
Hardwood Company, Okay, And you guys were talking about our
two V I think that he has set the culture
for the locker room with the Houston Astros, and you
was talking about the fascination parts. And I'm fascinated with
ownership because in the last ten years we have had Luno,

(40:36):
Click and Brown as gms and we and we also.

Speaker 9 (40:41):
Have had Hinch.

Speaker 11 (40:44):
Baker and uh It's Spider as managers. So we have
had made six changes in major departments within the last
ten years and are still World Series competitive.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
I'm fascination Randall.

Speaker 6 (41:00):
That is such a great point by you, and it's like, okay,
and you think about organizations to be now obviously when
people are going elsewhere. Unfortunate the Luno situation, but people
go elsewhere to be able to do that, and people
come and they want to pluck some of the people
from your place because you're successful, right, we all do that,
but to be able to sustain this with all the losses.

(41:22):
And another thing you make such a great point about
is we talk about front office with the ownership and
in this case, mister Crane is you can go through
all the stuff, but think about the temptation he would
have with all the way we spend money now to overspend,
just overspend because you got to keep up to think
you got to keep up the ability to say I'm
willing to lose this guy or willing to move on

(41:44):
and maximize it because he believes so much in the
scouting part in what they're doing. Think we all have
that temptation, right Randal. It's like, oh man, man, I'm
right yeah, and you'll get to make it is I
you know you're on to die on twenty five hundred
calories day and then all a sudden the pizza is
going to be delivered.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
It's like, okay, I'm eating this pizza.

Speaker 6 (42:04):
And then you know what I'm saying, and that pizza
is that big, that that temptation to spend four hundred million,
And I know we as fans and mediate would love
that one time because you're but think about what they've
done and their model.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
To stick with what has been successful.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
We all try to bolt to something new, and he's
adjusted and understood and he's hired the right people. I'm
with you fascination with the front office and in particular
the ownership. Whether you like some of the moves or not,
it's worked, no.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Doubt, sir.

Speaker 11 (42:32):
And the other point that I wanted to make was
that you know, I wanted Tucker and Bregman to stay,
and last year I must admit I'm wrong, Guardie, I
wanted Pinya to be traded. Okay, so I'm wrong on that.
But when you said this morning that you was right
about Cam's midt, and then you know you are right.

(42:57):
So there's nothing wrong with being right when you're right,
and you don't have to clean it up when you
when you're right, you're right, so.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Trade pinion, see and and and.

Speaker 11 (43:11):
I can admit to my wrong So I just need
to take a better look at at at my opinions
and my decision because sometimes, like I was saying the
other day, we can make decisions based on feelings.

Speaker 6 (43:24):
To make this emotional part of it right, Rand and
we all do that. It's like, man, I thought that
quarterback was going to be really, really good. In three
years later, he's a journeyman, played four different teams. Like, man,
that's not the guy I saw. And it's okay because
it's hard sports. I mean, success is hard, and and
they aren't we all glad that Painty didn't get shipped
right the way he's playing down this ball club.

Speaker 11 (43:45):
This ball club is a young talent that's already looking
like the World Series competitive. But that starts with the ownership,
the locker room and and and the confidence that that
these coaches put into these players, and and the astros
don't go out. They let Tucker and Bregman go and
and they have these young these young guys on a

(44:08):
on a cheap pay, I don't want to use the
word cheap, but they get the more out.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Yeah, a little more inexpensive, no doubt, that's fair.

Speaker 11 (44:15):
Inexpensive, and and staying competitive. Great ownership, Houston Rockets, great ownership,
the Houston Texans, great ownership. These people make great decisions
and it always starts from the top. And I think
that the Astros within the next two years of this
year possibly can go to the World Series because they

(44:36):
get in momentum.

Speaker 7 (44:38):
That's what we need.

Speaker 11 (44:39):
And I hope that they scored a lot more runs
this year than they did last year.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
I hain't up listening trek stuff Randall.

Speaker 6 (44:45):
You know he's talking about sometimes even though we resist
the model, Well, look what the Dodgers doing. Hell, they're
having their padres and giants and diamonbacks. They're not gonna
go away.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
They're not gonna run.

Speaker 6 (44:56):
I mean, that's a tough division. They've had plenty of injuries.
My point is the temptation to go spend. As I've
talked about, that there's a model that works, and even
though it may frustrate, how can you let Bregman and
Tucker go? How many people are mentioned in Bregman and
Tucker right now here. They're playing well in their cities,
great in their cities, but maybe all three can win
well with that. It's like when you watch Matt Stafford,

(45:16):
you don't think great mccannon. You know it's kind of
a side arm three quarter throw, But why would I
go try to change Matt Stafford's throwing motion this much success.
First year, you're like, can he you know you're great,
he's in college. He said, well, can can he sustain that?
Some guys can just do off Bernie Kozar, you know
the way he did stuff and was successful. There's different
ways to do it. I'm not changing Anybody tried to

(45:37):
go in and change Matt Stafford five years in his
career about his arm motion is an idiot. Just get
out of the way to find something else. Fix his
feet if you need to. He's successful, he's accurate, he
makes great throws. He's going to be a Hall of Famer.
You got to know the discernment of saying what to
attack and what to change and what not to is
important in this business as well.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
So you apply that to this team.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
You may not like the mechanics of Stafford, the result
is phenomenal. You may not like the model of the
Astros and oh we can't keep doing this, Well, they
keep doing it and they keep winning.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Now, you're not.

Speaker 6 (46:08):
Gonna win a World Series every What I consider winning
is every year you post up and have a chance
to be in the World Series, and if you can
steal one or two in a five year period, you
start to look like a dynasty.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
And that's where they are.

Speaker 6 (46:18):
So even though you may have like, oh, man, pay him,
pay Jord on pay of a fromber and they may
they already paid Jordan, but then the way he's pitch
and I get it.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
But if he does go.

Speaker 6 (46:29):
Somewhere else and they don't because he's priced himself up
because he's too good and outpriced it, I wouldn't sit
there and say this organization doesn't care about winning. There's
a smart way to do it. For some it's different.
The Dodgers want to spend. It's worked for this team.
They spend, but not over expensive. So Matt Stafford's mechanics
they give you results. So why change it? If you're

(46:51):
working like this and you can change front office people
and pitchers and catchers and first basement and third basement
and right fielders and still have success, why change? You
just got to be willing is an ownership to keep
adjusting on the fly, which doesn't always mean over pain.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
You mentioned about emulating other organizations and it works for them.
I mean mentioned the Texans for the longest time. God,
they tried to be the Patriots so badly. You were
chasing a ghost. You were chasing something that wasn't there.
You were chasing Tom Brady. You didn't have Tom Brady.
We found that out pretty quickly. You have to do
it your own way. What works for you is not
going to work for everyone else.

Speaker 6 (47:26):
I'm telling you, since the Watson Watson Bill O'Brien out
in that right around that range where they were both
within like a year of each other, you tell me
about the front office here in the Texans, and they
get the least amount of credit they do Jackie, because
people didn't want to trust Kalum mcnar because dad thought
he was just a spoiled kid. Now he handled that,

(47:49):
of course, of course, and as the guy that's science
the paycheck.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
But what's he.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
Supposed to say about his guys in the building we
may not like to hire. But my point is we'd
all said that if you were in that situation, whether
you believed it or not, right, that's like that hope.
But it's part of like why people say, well, it's
a hamstring strain and it's not a p and then
we find out, you know what I'm saying, you're protected
your organization again, regardless that he had to learn as
well because his pops was doing all the work. And

(48:16):
then all of a sad you know, the wife's involved
in very smart you get the right general manager, and
people question that, all we don't want another New England. Yeah,
you actually do want another New England Patriots, because why
for twenty years they sustained success. You do want it,
but you want it done right. And once we allowed
Nick Casseo to do this stuff, his insight on like
Dana Brown's ability to scout talent, his insight to get

(48:38):
players has been a tremendous success. And among all this,
I know people resisted, but over the last four years,
the Houston Texans and the decisions to change the coach
get rid of one year coaches that weren't going to
be here for the future. Head coaches find a way
to run some people out of the building that trim
the fat, and Watson was one of them to deal.

(49:00):
I'm going to tell you right now that this is
now becoming a place people want to play that the
McNair family has gone from heel you know what people thought.
I'm talking about some perception to really good ownership and
enticing ownership, and I'd like to play in that building ownership.
Were you having that conversation five years ago? You weren't

(49:22):
or four years ago. So again, somebody who's learned as
on the fly, watching his pops and all this, So
we do have to give him it may not be
the best owner yet and he still work on it,
but I'm gonna tell you what. The family has done
a hell of a job of making up for past woes.
And this is the best the organization's been from top
to bottom and offense, defense, the whole thing. And I'm

(49:44):
talking about management, front office.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
Everything.

Speaker 6 (49:46):
I thought I author Rick Smith was really good, but
this is his complete from top to bottom, hell all
the way down to somebody who tapes an ankle? Did
I think I've seen here? And the mcnairs deserve credit,
they really do for the way that they've changed his
around and got out of mistakes. What's the best thing
to do. Glet it fester, Get out of them, right,
you get out of him From Jack or from Bill O'Brien,
from Deshaun Watson, and you move forward, and then you've

(50:07):
got a general manager who, yeah, he's bringing some of
the patriot thoughts in it. And you know what, smart,
it's successful and it ran its course and now they're
trying to win again. There, Nick Cassario gets it. The
McNair family looks to me like they are now on
the other side of we're an organization you want to
play for four years ago, you want free agents, weren't

(50:29):
flocking here.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
You wanted guys. Jjson a lot of numerous times he
hated the organization at the end, right, he wanted out.
He couldn't stand being here anymore.

Speaker 6 (50:38):
Well, guess what, JJ would love to play for this
franchise again now if he was twenty five again.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
He would have never done the red jacket ceremony for
the Ring of Honor a couple of years ago. But
when Demico got here and he realized that it's a
different building, right, it's back to being what I remembered
that building supposed to.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
Part of being a great leader is recognizing mistakes, making
sure you know they're out there and not letting them fester.
That's a big part of why the mcnairs are doing. Uh,
they're winning the city over again.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
They are.

Speaker 6 (51:07):
And it helps that you got the right people that you've
hired that do most of the work, the hard work,
the labor, the lunch pale stuff. I love it, man.
We we're fortunate we got some ownership in this town.
It's like, we got some coaches and players in this town.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
You know what competence looks like. And you know, sadly
here we've known what incompetence can look like too.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
For all those you do, most cities do. It's just
it hits harder when it's your own town. Things are
a shifting though. If you're saying what's on who's on
the rise. A city that's on the rise with three
great franchises, a great college basketball hopefully college football continues
to grow with Willie Fritz. This is one of those
where you say, Okay, who's on the who's on the
uptick that you want to invest in? You know with futures, Oh,

(51:52):
it's it's it's this city, the teams in this city.
Because tell me a team that you look like you
think is headed south. I don't see one. Maybe south
on a vacation after they went to championship. But all
these three teams are headed in the right direction. They
are not headed towards a detour.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Brother, Well, you thought the Astros were going to be
that group, and so far they're looking like they're.

Speaker 6 (52:10):
Tell cam Smith and Al Tuvey and the way they're
pitching staff and tell Joe a spot of that. I
think we're pretty pleased with the way they've started, considering
all the circumstances. Hell, you'd be pleased if they were
all healthy and they had this record. If they were
healthy from start to finish, Jordan's playing and you got
five year starters nobody got hurt, you'd be good with
where they are right now. You may mad me complain
a little more because the hitting, but you'd say, I'll

(52:33):
take this, I will take this, and they're doing it
with about if it feels like forty seven guys that
you've had to change around and move around so smart.
It is impressive, and wo'd be just as critical if
it was the other way. But you know, when you're
doing that, you were seeing different stuff in this Astros team.
To do what they're doing under the circumstance, you're not
going to get great every night. But I can tell

(52:54):
you this, even if all of that's the thing that
makes me sticks out to me, even if they were
all healthy and playing, you would take the record they
have right now.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
No question. It's definitely a lot of fun to be
able to talk about on these shows, especially when they
play like they did last night. Ronnie. I'll see you
guys right there. We'll get to you guys. But I
also want to ask, did you ever hear the time
that a guy was boozing on his way to work
and it wasn't his fault? Yeah, there's an actual story
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Talk seven ninety Astros thirteen three winners last night over
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a few of you here in just a second. But Sean,
you ever heard the time about the guy that went
to work and he was drinking booze and he didn't

(56:19):
realize it? Well, if you haven't, now you have or
you will at real Kate Melvin on Twitter, I just
found out my husband thought White Claws were energy drinks
and he's been drinking one on the way to work
every day. And of course, you know, whenever stuff like
that is thrown out, you'll get people who start responding.

(56:40):
One person responding that they thought and this is one
at Roman Garlic at Garlic Ramo fifty six seven. I
was a stay at home dad for a little bit
and my daughters were in middle school. I packed their
lunches daily. One day, I was out of juices, grabbed
the drink can and put it in the lunch box.

(57:03):
Only after school did I realize I gave her a
wine cooler. She said it tasted funny. Ramone Ramone. I
don't know whether it's a laugh or think. How stupid
can you be? Well? There's a lot of that out there.

Speaker 6 (57:20):
Yeah, there's stupid way, I'd be the right word, how
ignorant to understanding or I mean, don't you automatically just
kind of look at a can see did I grab
ginger ail or did I grab a white claw?

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Well, there are people who have made that mistake. Like
Meghan is big on TikTok, and she told me about
one time that a girl's dad that he made the
mistake of thinking that white claw was a erenager and
he said, you know, yeah, I had a couple of
them at work. I was starting to wonder why I
felt so good.

Speaker 6 (57:47):
I felt good a little latergy, but then all of
a sudden it kicked in and you want to fall
asleep about two hours later, right, And it goes the
opposition some energy some caffeine to the.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Claw, for sure, and it goes the opposite way because
Celsius is an energy drink that's out there and it
looks like white claw truly, you know any of the
others that are out there that that are pretty popular,
especially around pool time. And uh we uh we both
had celsiuses on a flight. And you know how now
on planes it's illegal to bring booze onto the plane,

(58:18):
and the flight attendant on our flight almost fought us
tooth and nail about you cannot bring alcohol. That's a
major fine, blah blah blah, and then we finally just
it's seriously an energy drink. But it had like kind
of like.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
You know, absolutely so just the moral of the stories
read the can, Yeah, that would help. But the other
moral of the story is, like I said, we got
to be there's got to be some common sense involved.
But let's get to this bury the lead here. No,
I'm not even gonna say it. That's not fair, that's

(58:53):
not I.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Can't.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
Why don't you just give the dude a white wine
sprits her? Can I get a white claw?

Speaker 6 (59:02):
That's not fair because I have had claws and truly
is at my crib is a mixer? Right?

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Yeah? Really?

Speaker 6 (59:07):
Oh yeah, party dude, you go mixer, you throw, you
throw like a lime uh truly into your uh into
your blanco.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
Tequila jeez on the rocks.

Speaker 6 (59:19):
Yeah, I am bull diving when I do do it
ain't very but yeah, yeah, I'm just not gonna go like,
let me give me the claw. Okay, I got to
add it to something. It's just not the interest. But yeah,
you take that and pour grab yourself a little little
blanco and take a lime or a grapefruit truly or
claw whatever you know, all those different names. Give yourself

(59:42):
a couple splashes of that a little bit different level.
See at the bottom there. You know they've got their
percentage al se vole or vol. Yeah, you know it's
not what is the claw got like four or five?

Speaker 4 (59:54):
Yeah? Probably?

Speaker 6 (59:55):
Yeah, I got some better stuff for you. Oh, I
mean there's yeah, have you ever have you ever had
the hard stuff? Have you ever had one of the
uh not the mocktails from from Speddle tap.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Yet I have? He gave So what did you think?
I thought it was really good and I'm starting to
feel good. But but but it's also it's also too
where you know, I know ahead of time and usually be.

Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
Surprised on your way to work and they popped in
a mocktail.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
But I'm also with you, like White Call has been
around for a long enough time, Like you see the billboards,
you see the ads, like all of these, like you've
got it a little bit oblivious, right, oh a thousand,
I think exactly. So I'll see vault right, oh man,
you know this al Seed guy must be a huge
Tennessee fan.

Speaker 6 (01:00:36):
Yeah, that's not what it means, chief, Yeah, exactly, exactly,
no doubt about it. And they've got some they've over
there at the Ta Spittal Tap. Dude, they've got some
stuff that's like some of those I don't even know
what do we call the drinks that aren't mocktails are
on alcohol. They have alcohol in them, but they're like infused. Yeah, maybe,
but it's not. It's not even the Delta nine stuff.
It's just like the ones that are like, well, I

(01:00:57):
guess it'd be their equivalent to the White Claw. They
get like nine percent, right, So you used to do
that at home, right, watching college football on a Saturday.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
So yeah, read the read the label right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Winding down which White Claw did respond to Kate. We
admire his dedication to grab life by the claw, but
maybe not before spreadsheets. Might we suggest white Claw zero
proof for the morning commute, d m us and we'll
take care of it there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
You go. Let me go on there and say something
so I can get sent to be the claw.

Speaker 7 (01:01:27):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Yeah, I've been, I've been.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
I've been drinking high Nunes on the way the High nooner.

Speaker 6 (01:01:32):
Yeah, there you go. Everybody needs a little high noon
for whatever reason that might be. So yeah, the moral
of the story is, uh, like we said, read the
read the label, or get the zero alcohol, and so
she thought he was headed to work with energy drink.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
But there is also too like I grew up on
Sunday to light sunny d oh.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Yeah, Sonny, Sonny what.

Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
Yeah, yeah, I saw, I had I blocked it up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
I want the record to show that that was that
was blocked. But they haven't vodka seltzer now. So they
did the smart thing of realizing, hey, most of the
kids who grew up drinking this are now of drinking age,
so they're probably gonna get a little nostalgic, so why
not be able to capitalize on that. Good on them.
I haven't tried it yet, right, but I was. I
was a big Sunny Delight fan.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
See with you, I got to say it all the
way through.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
So you gotta yeah, yeah, don't don't say Sundy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
I'm not tipping pitches here, buddy.

Speaker 6 (01:02:25):
Yeah, I mean I tried. I went Apple, but I
fouled it off because you stayed. You staved me off. Yeah, yeah,
just foul. Yeah, just foul. Yeah, all right, it's all right,
Sonny D. Sunny D was a little thick, though, wasn't
it just a little? I mean a little little.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
I'm trying to think, like what else they had in there,
because like it wasn't just straight orange juice. Like, I
don't know, I'm trying to remember exactly what sunny delight?
When are they gonna come up with a cream sickle orange?
It's out there, I'm sure, I know they have the drinks,
but I'm talking about the full on that tasted like
the fifty to fifty bar growing up in like.

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
Your morning orange juice? Yeah, how do we add that?
Whatever that ven mix or whatever? How do we do that?

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Just leave one out, you know, have it melt and
then you know, go ahead and making yourself be your
own mixologist.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Just then all a sudden, be a billionaire because of it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Then soon enough Taffer will hire you on to be
one of his mixologies that goes with you. Sean.

Speaker 12 (01:03:14):
Look, we're gonna go into this bar. Look at the
way they served drinks. They're giving alcohol away. Yeah, I'll
look at the presentations. There's no systems here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
I love that New York guy originally Oh yeah, yeah,
I love that guy claims that he created Sunday ticket
by the way, look get up. He claims that he
had the idea for NFL Sunday Ticket.

Speaker 6 (01:03:37):
I'm sure he did. He probably didn't argue with Taffor. Yeah,
you'll get cussed out because that's the thing. You know,
he'll do the you know, standing right in front of
you yelling at you.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
And then there's there's sometimes too where he'll go Coco
with the gorilla like uh he uh what was it?
One time there was a freezer, one of those like long,
like on the floor freezers, and they had a bunch
of stuff that was expired in there, and he started,
I mean, he's seriously like he looked like a gorilla.
He looked like, don't koll like throwing you know, fries
and frozen burgers and chicken and everything older, you know,

(01:04:05):
I mean look at this two years ago.

Speaker 6 (01:04:07):
Yep, Tafa man, I have to I'd have to be
really in a good mood. He said, are you gonna
come here and cheer me out? Because I might want
to fight his ass. I love him, though, I'm with you,
How are you?

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John Tappan let's go look at your kitchen. That's the
Usually if he says that first and you know any trouble,
he's shutting it down. Shut it down, Shut it down. Now,
everybody out, get out. Al on the south side see
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Speaker 13 (01:06:19):
Hey, what's up guys, great show, Hey Seun. Just to
piggyback off that last caller, I don't shout out to him.
Great point. I don't think you need to beat itself
up by thinking that he judged them along or whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:06:32):
Oh no, doubt well who doesn't that's not hey man,
we all have in opinion. He's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:06:37):
And the thing of it is, seaw, sometime we get impatient,
and I think it has to due, you know, playing
the game before you know, my past or whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:06:46):
Shun.

Speaker 13 (01:06:47):
It's just so long, so it's hard to stand packed,
you know what I mean? One hundred and six or
some games, one hundred and twenty games and better in
the sports, that's the longest sports that we have out
of the top three sports. I'm one hundred and some
plus game, So it's gonna be hard to sustain and
judge what this team gonna do, what this team main
So that's just normal because it's so many games, Shun,

(01:07:09):
and a lot of times we take it in the vacuum.
But this is a marathon. But another point shown is
this I don't know what the organization with us. I
guess I'm spoiled, Shawn, and I get your take on this.
We championship bound. It's kind of like Seann, you remember
a year or two ago. We was like the Kansas
City of Baseball. Two championships in the less amount of

(01:07:31):
years than anybody. And the thing of it is, I
don't want them to get too comfortable with just good
playing and I always promote quality baseball, but the bar
of the Astros because I guess even as a gift
and a church, because we get so many guys from
the Triple A to come.

Speaker 8 (01:07:48):
Play for this team.

Speaker 13 (01:07:49):
It's almost like it's lightning in a bottle every time.
But we expect to get over that hump. And I'm
not talking about the playoff runs, and we expect championship
in his organization. So I just think sometimes you have
to understand that, Hey, yeah, y'all doing a great job
over that. But guess what, us as fans, we want championships,

(01:08:10):
so whatever it take. And I don't want guys to
start saying, hey, Astros ain't gonna pay you. Oh when
your contract get up, they're gonna let you go on
all that. But anyway, they've done a great job. Sean,
that's a good point. But at the same time, you know,
how's that You know, Sean looking at the game from
when you played at a high level with Ashros playing football.
You know, Sean, it's easy for me to look at
it as a championship, but not just say bus but

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under achieved.

Speaker 8 (01:08:33):
And I ain't gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Get you taken appreciate the call, Al, I mean, I
understand the expectations, and I mean while you were out
we were talking about their handling of injuries that I
felt like that's going to start to hurt them when
it comes to free agency. I mean, the way they
handled the Jordon situation. I was like, if you're a
potential player out there that would want to come play
for this team, and you know that injuries are going

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to happen, why would you want to go through that?
Why would you want to go through some of the
questions that are to come your way, and just you know,
the things that Jordan or any other injured player Kyle
Tucker last year was dealing with. But then the good
side of it is you're a pitcher out there, why
would you want to pitch anywhere else?

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
And Al's right.

Speaker 6 (01:09:15):
Sustaining it's the key here when you've done gone through
all the sustaining, it's the key not only in one year,
but for a long period of time. But they're doing
it the right way at least it appears that way
because they're having success. I mean, if you're gonna judge anybody,
are you gonna go and you want an example set,
are you gonna go to a franchise that does it
a way that you're like, I'm not sure if they're
any good? Are you gonna go to somebody says Okay, well,

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well they may not do it the way that everybody
wants them to, they do it the right way for
them and it works.

Speaker 8 (01:09:41):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:09:42):
I's right about the sustaining of it. And we'll see
them this year if they can sustain this as it
goes on with a bunch of injuries and the Bats
not lighting it up just.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
Yet, although they did last night.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
No, they were huge last night and Cam Smith a
huge part of that. And this is something that we
can continue talking about. But I mean, how how funny
is it that coming into this season, Oh man, the outfield,
it's going to just be a revolving door of mediocrity
at best. I mean, I think people would have taken mediocre.
But Jake, Mike Myers swinging the bat the way he is,

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camp Smith playing the way that he is, Jose Altuve
playing a little bit more second base right now. But
I mean, remember all the calls, Oh, that's going to
be a disaster.

Speaker 6 (01:10:21):
He's been fine, turned it out, He's been just fine
still aside from injuries. The biggest weakness on the team
is when I when I joke, when I say this
is just making sure you don't let base runners steal
on you on a regular basis as you continue to roll.
But in truth, they've been they've been overachievers this year,
or or maybe we just looked at him as this

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is overachieving. Maybe this is exactly who they are and
good enough and good enough to sustain it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Or being able to steal bases if your name is
not Jeremy Penia right like last time that Jake Myers
thrown out, and I'm just like, maybe maybe if your
name's not Jeremy Pania, maybe maybe lay off doing that
for a little.

Speaker 6 (01:10:58):
The strength of this team hasn't been based running over
there over their big run. We wouldn't put them as
a top base running team in baseball. But they got
some guys that can run. Were told that Tony Parishchica.
That was a huge reason he use here. That's exactly right.
The that year on correct, Kathy had asked about this
Wes Clark trade. I didn't know much about him. I
know he's a South Carolina guy and had a lot

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of power in school, was a catcher if I'm not mistaken,
and now he's a full time first baseman.

Speaker 7 (01:11:25):
D H.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Well, I don't think he was on with it the Brewers.
I don't think he was on their forty man roster.

Speaker 6 (01:11:29):
Yeah, but I don't know what what the plan is
for him, but they obviously think there's some pop there
and something to work with.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
So that's about where it stands right now.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
Kat.

Speaker 6 (01:11:39):
I don't know a lot about him other than I
know he had some big power when he was in
college and that he's a first baseman. But I don't
think we're in any danger of Christian Walker losing his
gig to him right now.

Speaker 9 (01:11:49):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
But I mean, you know, given Dana Brown's track record,
and I think he's got some experience, that's exactly right.
So watch he'll come here and be a twenty home
run plus guy. Yeah, I mean that's won't shock that
seemingly the way that things are working out right now, Sheena,
John see all right there, get you involved in the conversation.
Can can continue that outfield conversation too. seOne three two
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Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues the Sena.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
She wants to weigh in. Sheena, good morning, Hi, good morning.

Speaker 14 (01:12:26):
So I wanted to circle back to something. I think
y'all were talking more about Jason Alexander's performance early in
the six o'clock hour.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
I was, I was running and call in, but so
just what.

Speaker 14 (01:12:38):
You know when the astros claimed him off waivers. I
try not to doubt the astros when they get somebody
in these days, especially a picture, they seem to you know,
find you know, the virtue in their in their profile
and really like exaggerate it, bring it out, tweak a
few things. They've really done some amazing things with pictures.

(01:12:59):
Butn't really see what we saw on this guy when
we picked him up. Wasn't expected go a whole lot
last night. I was hoping for four or five innings.
I didn't think he was actually that stretched out. I mean,
you look back at the guy and he had I
think four appearances for the A's this year, six innings,
pitched with like an er up towards eighteen, didn't pitch

(01:13:21):
I don't think in the majors last year, had an
injury the year before. You know, I just wasn't didn't
have high expectations going into this. And then he comes
out last night, gives up a hit not until the
fourth that's erased by a double play, and doesn't give
up another hit until the seventh. I think, I mean,
way to go for him, going back to the team

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that put him on waivers, saying, you know, see what
you let go, see what I can do? Do you
give me a chance? I mean, how rat must have that,
must that have felt to him to go back and
do that, And just an amazing performance by him when
we really needed somebody. You know, pitching is definitely getting hard,
but we just keep having these guys just step up

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over and over again and just really highlight to our
you know, our team and our pitching coaches and what
We're and Dana Brown with finding talents and what we're
able to do with these young guys, with both young
guys and other guy young older guys that you know,
just have been struggling elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Yeah, I appreciate the call. I mean, it's it's even
beyond pitching too. I mean, Christian Walker is probably the
only one right now, but there is still a belief
and there's still time that he can be able to
turn things around and at least be what we believed
we were getting in that deal. But I mean last year,
Taylor Scott, Victor Karattini, another guy who had been a

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journeyman catcher that had swung a decent enough bat, but
not to the level that he has here. I mean
last year the trade for Usa Kakuci. Everybody crushing Dana
for making that move over Overspend. You're bringing in a
guy that is going to be mid at best, and
he was anything but mid for you. He was really
good for you last year. So it's getting to the

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point that even the Dana haters out there, in the
Dana doubters, you're not having a lot of ammunition to
be able to work with anymore because of the amount
of success stories that you have, and Jason Alexander is
just another version of that. It is one game, but
still you couldn't have expected he was going to give
you what he gave you last night.

Speaker 6 (01:15:22):
You couldn't. And Sheen a great point about going back.
It always means something to a player to go back
to the team who it is quitting on him or
deciding he's not part of what we want here. And
in Oakland, well, Sacramento, that's tough considering that they're a
team filled with a lot of those type of players,
right and trying to build on the young and pretty
cheap or a veteran that's inexpensive. So yeah, she's right,

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and you are as well impressive, And it gets to
a point to win, do you shift your narrative? I
already have and I had from the beginning. Dana Brown
can scout talent, and you both make a good point.
We were getting to a point that and Sheen has
said it too that when a pitcher or somebody rolls
through here, maybe we should think success first, and that
it'd be more shocking if they fail, right, just because

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they do a phenomenal job. And like she said, you
see stuff and you look at numbers. Even with Kokuchi
last year, the way he was pitching in Toronto, that
wasn't trading three prospects for. But you see the forest
through the trees and Boom comes here and unfortunately didn't
get a chance to pitch in the postseason. He was
a big reason they got to the postseason. Was the reason, no,
no question. So yeah they find and who knows what's

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gonna happen. But if you only got one start to
judge him on a hell of a way to do it. Now,
good on him going back, And yes that does matter
when you go back and beat up on your own
former team, it matters well.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
And it's also of again, you know, being able to
find things, Like you said, the forest through the trees.
I mean, who knows that the Astros picked this guy up?
I mean Brandon Walter another guy, I mean, somebody that
had had minimal major league experience and clearly they saw
something in his pitching arsenal that they were like, hey,
throw this a little bit more. If you do that,
you've got a lot more success. Last night, for Alexander

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went and looked at the pitch shop breakdown, ninety five
pitches out of him forty one of them are sinkers
and thirty one of them were change ups. So clearly
they saw something in him where they said, those pitches
played for you, use those.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Right and didn't overuse fastball right. I mean just.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Seven times he threw a four seam fast pain. Think
about that.

Speaker 6 (01:17:18):
Think about that all in ninety plus pitches, right, So
it is, And listen, it's not just the point that
all their necessity for depth the guys they went and
got Walton, these guys have been necessity for continuing to
stay in first place. They're being asked to contribute now,
I mean at a place when he wasn't doing much

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contributing before he got here. And Walter in his situation,
as you mentioned, al Denner and Sheena pointed out the
numbers of where he's been. He's like, what gives you hope? Well,
they just see things different. There's a skill set in that.
And let's make let's be honest about this. Where you
are in one place and things may not be good.
When you come to the Astros, the expectations to win
you elevate your game and they do. Plus you also

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know you've got a good team. So if you want
to stay. You better stay because there's somebody else behind
you that doesn't have a lot of experience that it's
ready to take your gig.

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
As always make.

Speaker 6 (01:18:10):
It difficult on the manager or the ownership or the
organization to replace you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
And they're doing one hell of.

Speaker 6 (01:18:16):
A job on this staff of if it ain't here,
of creating themselves a lot of depth in their pitching
careers somewhere else, because they're so deep when it comes
to this, it's incredible.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
It's a fun watch, man, it really is.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
I mean, I don't think any of us could have
guessed that this was going to be the case here
at this point. I mean, I think that most of
us were thinking that maybe around five hundred, a few
games above and try to compete and make that run
like you did last year. But the Astros are proving
right now they can get into a nice little pace
when it comes to the jog. John Cee right there.
We'll get you involved. You want to join them seOne three, two, one, two, five,

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that continues to be something that needs to be dived into,
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Over the A's in Sacramento. Game six NBA Finals coming
up tomorrow in Indy. Thunder up three to two in
that series, and the Florida Panthers back to back Stanley
Cup champions. They take down the Evonton Oilers last night
out in South Florida. But we've been talking a lot
of astros here. People wanted to get involved, to get

(01:21:51):
you involved in the conversation seven one three, two one
two five, seven ninety. You talked about the job that
Jason Alexander did last night, I mean the night before.
And I know we gave praise and we're giving out
proper kudos to Ryan Gusto for the job that he did.
But I mean, even over the weekend, Colton Gordon six
innings out of him, you're able to get Brandon Walter

(01:22:12):
going six and two thirds, gives up just the one mistake,
the home run the Brooks lead. But aside from that's
I mean, Sean, just think about what I just rattled off, right,
There four different guys in recent times that you've had
to count on because you don't have Hayden was Nesky,
you don't have Renel Belong. You're still counting on them,
and you're going to because I mean, you're not gonna
have Lance McCullers for the next week and a half,

(01:22:34):
two weeks.

Speaker 6 (01:22:34):
And four guys that you going into the season. Gusto
might have been. You thought, Okay, he's gonna help somewhere,
but none of them did you have on your Bengal card.
This was going to be all four starting pitching, doing
what they're doing, and they're going to become regulars in
a rotation. There's no way there's a three of them.
Three of them most people had no clue about. That's

(01:22:56):
just the facts. And if you had a lot of
clue about him, you probably you need a hobby. But
in true you know what I'm saying, and we knew
about Gusto, but it's just just like okay, bullpen starter
or startup. Then all of a sudden, this guy gets
hurt and he comes back, and you thought was Nesky
was gonna be fine, and you just boom. You talk
about playing chess and at times checkers. We got to
go quick and hop a couple and just whatever you're doing.
You just named four names that were not in the

(01:23:19):
World Series thought process at this time last year, and
they weren't the worriest World Series thought process in February
of this year. By the end of spring, one guy said,
we get some versatility with Gusts. The other three guys,
I don't. This is it sounds disrespectful to maybe the
scrap heap type, and that's not fair to them. They're
better than that. But or a little bit of journeymen.

(01:23:40):
What are they A lot of questions about who they're
going to be. Now I understand with Alexander's one start,
but the other the other two continue to post Man
and Gordon and and uh, who'd I leave out of that?

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
For Walter? Walter, they have the contribution.

Speaker 6 (01:23:57):
Isn't just something that we're oh, thanks for the one
the one or two starts and enjoy yourself back down
or in a bullpen.

Speaker 9 (01:24:03):
No, this is it.

Speaker 6 (01:24:06):
And they're not just getting through it, they're getting through
it with high success. Yeah, this is it's uh like
I can assure you very few people would We're gonna
rattle you. And you may never have thought you were
going to rattle those four names off together in your life,
and you did, and rightfully so got on them.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
And you mentioned the bullpen. I mean that's another part
of it too. Steven Oker a guy looking for an opportunity.

Speaker 6 (01:24:29):
He's an OKRE an All Star right now in your mind,
he's not gonna make it, but is any kind has
he put up?

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
He's pitched incredibly well right where you've got to pitch
like above and beyond reliever, like you have to have
like an ninety eight.

Speaker 6 (01:24:40):
Yeah, I'm not talking about getting in the All Star Game.
I'm talking about pitching like an All sar sure up
on your tea. Yeah, not the All Star Game. It's
usually starters that go into the bullpen, unless you're Mariano Rivera, Right,
I'm just talking about he's performing for this team like
an All Star would.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
Be at SUSO.

Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
I mean Brian King, Caleb.

Speaker 6 (01:24:58):
You're talking about Kings of King feels like he just
feels like automatic getting people out regularly, and that the
trust like, okay, he'll take care of his business.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
I feel that way about him every time he posts
and then it takes pressure off Brian to bray you
and Josh Hater too. I mean, that's the good news
of last night being able to crush the A's the
way that you did. You didn't have to use a
bray you. And you're also able to give two straight
nights off to Josh Hater and you're hoping that you'll
need him a little bit more in these final five
games in five days.

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
There's absolutely no question about it. Has anybody got more
other pitching staff than this team this year in baseball?

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
I can't think, because we had this conversation and I
think I mentioned it on the air that look at,
for example, the Mariners starting rotation as good as they are,
and just their team in general, pitching wise, how good
they are. I've ventured to say the astros a pitch
better than they.

Speaker 6 (01:25:49):
Castillo the whole thing. Right, Yeah, you have hard you'd
be from start to finish. You'd have a hard time
finding better. You may find somebody who's got better race
and starting pitching, more inning somewhere else, bigger names somewhere else,
but from start to finish, an entire pitching staff, starters
and bullpen, considering all the circumstances. Hell, forget all the circumstances,

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just the way that they've performed. Yeah, they talk about
keeping them in the game and keeping them ahead of
the game. Those guys can all stand up and take
about They won't right now because they know there's a
lot to get handled. Imagine how frustrated you'd be if
they weren't pitching. Well, if the pitching equaled the inconsistency
of the hitting, you'd be sitting back. And it's done
from a lot of guys that you probably would have

(01:26:35):
expected this year who are now becoming, at least to
us in this town household needed names here.

Speaker 13 (01:26:42):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
It's been great, dire straight, there was no questions.

Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
That's where they'd be there streets right now.

Speaker 6 (01:26:47):
Well, you'd be talking about twenty twenty five getting over
and what's twenty twenty six is.

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
Gonna look like?

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Right, that's what you're wow And luckily you're able to
think in the present right now. It's what the Strows
are afforded the opportunity to do. Seven five, seven ninety
the number to get in, John and Fresno. W's the
weigh in, John, Good morning, Hey, good money, guys. One
thing I like about this team. They're excited the watch.
But this is not Dusty's team. This is Joe's team.

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Them boys is playing from Joe. He got them young
boys out there playing and believing in himself. And it
ain't know they gonna play.

Speaker 10 (01:27:23):
He know if they they know, if they played and produced,
they gonna be out there.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
That's like the pictures.

Speaker 9 (01:27:30):
He told them, Man, you got the opportunity here. We
got a lot of injuries.

Speaker 10 (01:27:33):
If you come out here and pish, you can push
yourself onto this team permanently. So them guys, even though
they're young, and I like the youth. You know, Pinia
and Cam with oh Cam, look at him, man, that
dude there, that dude there, he the one that got
that rarely started with them with them two Jackson hit

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and he got everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Oh man, if he could do it, I could do
it too. Man. If the dude, the dude is he.

Speaker 9 (01:27:59):
Used the flu us for that team.

Speaker 10 (01:28:01):
And Dana he bringing in the playoffs. He want to
be young, He want to transform today young. And that's
what's happening around the league, guys, is everybody's getting young
and they getting a lot, just like a football. So
you know this do you get a quarterback in and
he's the young quarterback you got four years with with
without paying him all that money. Well, the same thing

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in baseball. You get the camps with a twenty two
years old last year.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
This time he's playing you know, little league.

Speaker 10 (01:28:29):
But I'm just saying that, uh, they got a good team.
I'd like to watch him play, and I think they're
gonna do months this year, So I hang up for
this guys.

Speaker 6 (01:28:38):
John Greg really is And younger doesn't mean young. Younger
is one thing, but younger who can play that you trust,
and that's what your ability. It's younger. There's always a
learning curve for all of them. Some just get to
the top of it, to the to the the build
to a cristcendo, get there quicker than others. This team
has a propensity to find those guys. Getting younger is

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a good thing as long as there's enough veterans to
make sure that they do it the right way. And
this team's this team the mix of it's right. You
get some mid thirties, you get some guys that are
approaching the prime of their career like a Painion and
and guyner D is close, and you get young guys
you say, man, I can't wait, But it's not the
can't wait that I see him down in double A
or triple A doing it and see I can't wait.

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Descend Zoe to get healthy, make sure melt Melt Melton
is healthy and doing it. And camp Smith just continues
to make adjustments that makes him a better player. Another
sign of we see all the physical stuff is mental
emotional confidence, all those things, the ability to deal with
a little bit of you know, of failure and to
handle success. It's just that those guys, he just they're

(01:29:42):
just learning quicker. And camp Smith is different. There's no
way you're watching him say this is a rookie, You're
just not. It's trust, it's it's trust. It's all going
both ways.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
No, it's trust to know that you know, hey, what's
it like to play for Joe. He's gonna give you
an opportunity, He's going to give you a chance. But
there also is the expectation that comes with it. You
should go up here. You need to know what you
need to do up here, and you need to be
able to do it. That's exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:30:05):
And in order to stay sustain success because we got
a bunch of dudes like you. This has been as
hard an organization to make it to the big leagues.
What I'm talking about when Carey, when the whole group
was here, you had a bunch of great players. But
it's like it's a blessing and a curse. The blessing
is building something special down below. The curse is we

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may lose some because they what do they see in
the field. The only reason Paine has got a chance
to play is because Correa wanted three hundred million plus dollars. Otherwise,
guess what, He's either an asset playing somewhere else right now,
or he's still in the minor leagues or up as
a spot toiling trying to get an opportunity. And now

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he is arguably playing well. It's a good arment as
well as anybody at the position in Major League Baseball.
If Correa doesn't leave, he's either flounder or dominating miners
and can't get here, or he's playing somewhere else and
we use him as an asset in the Kokuchie trade.

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So yeah, there's very few that do it better. But
the blessing is you got him. The curses in the past,
we're getting an opportunity. Now the younger is John talked
about we're throwing Campsmith in there. Descenzo, you trust and
you mentioned the trust words. Melton. We want to get
him some run. The young pitching staff. Hell, we're going
to move this guy here. We believe in Parade he's

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got fifteen home runs. We're gonna bring this guy. It's
it's it's like I said, fascinating is the best word
for me, because they're not supposed to sustain this with
all the changes.

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
You're just not, especially on the pitching side of it.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
It's fun to watch, and we only hope that it
continues to be fun throughout the rest of the summer.
Someone three two, one, two, five, seven ninety is the
number to get in. At times, this has not been
fun to watch for the Astros. But what if I
told you somebody's got it work. We'll talk about it here.
It is a Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

(01:32:06):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues. And you know, now you know.

Speaker 6 (01:32:13):
You got a question, go ahead, let me let me
get this by a highmuth here. Priorities straight, Brother Jay
barrim As you know, I'm part of the family. Thank goodness.
But you jump into dude, what you got four pounds
of brisket on your play? And then I'm getting a
friggin ballhog. Now you gotta share it with sales.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
No, No, I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
I mean it is one of.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
Those two that the scent will start bringing people down
the hallway. Hey, where's the barbecue? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
Yeah, I got new tell them to scent these nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Don't get any of them. See it was somebody else
but Arash karat In from Jbarm Barbecue. And you're over there.
You're the pitmaster with J bar M. And I mean,
you know you guys. I know, Sean talks about you
guys all the time. Haffey the crew, and I back
them up to y'all's venue rules. I mean the play

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in the food up.

Speaker 6 (01:33:01):
Yeah, the venue is off the charts, in the outdoors
setting and the I know it's underrated. The parking lot
just a nice paved parking lot. It's awesome, man. The
whole restaurant's beautiful. If you look at it, you know,
people drive by it. They don't realize it's a barbecue spot.
They think it's a venue.

Speaker 16 (01:33:17):
They think it's a hall for like weddings and stuff,
and it damn near it could be, no doubt, so
many weddings there.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
You could throw some great private party weddings or stuff there.

Speaker 7 (01:33:25):
No doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Got the beer garden outside, and you've got the full
bar there too, and you know you've got the Kelvin
Samson show there that you know they have their in
the basketball, the fame menus on the wall with all
the great pictures.

Speaker 6 (01:33:39):
I have a question for you. You guys wear your
like the badge and honor, and we call you the
pit master.

Speaker 7 (01:33:43):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:33:44):
We got like a person goes to medical school, doctor
and they got it forever.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
You got it.

Speaker 6 (01:33:49):
It's got to be probably when you're called the pit man.
I mean, go ahead and brag about it. I mean
it's a pretty That's a great label, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (01:33:54):
Yeah, I mean a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:33:57):
Do you put it on like what it says, Seans
and the commercial just a Seans whole quarterback. I wear
it on my little pel right, Yeah, you pitmaster. I
mean whenever I see it, I think you guys are
a different level.

Speaker 9 (01:34:06):
Oh yeah, do you think?

Speaker 7 (01:34:07):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:34:07):
Am I right about that?

Speaker 16 (01:34:08):
Absolutely? So It's like like I said, a lot of work. Uh,
years and years of experience. I mean I can't even
count how many briskets I've trimmed, you know, and also mangled.
You know, with with all that experience, you know, you
do mess up here and there. And but you know,
I learned from some of the guys from Blood Brothers Barbecue,

(01:34:29):
Harlem Road Barbecue. Spent years before I really got into it,
just learning and I'll just push my way, bully my
way in and like teach me, teach me, Like no, man,
just go sit back and just watch us come on.
So thank god to those guys who taught me and

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throughout the years just doing barbecue on and off.

Speaker 6 (01:34:51):
Do you remember the first time they put you under
the pressure, you know, I'm sure they do that like
it's like an eval when they it's your it's your kitchen.
Give me remember the first time that happened under pressure
in your thought process that day?

Speaker 7 (01:35:03):
And was it?

Speaker 6 (01:35:03):
Was it a gold mine for you that day? Or
you're like, oh man, this is crazy, Yeah, how's that work?
And you remember it, don't you?

Speaker 16 (01:35:10):
The very first time we did a party for julip
and uh, they were out of town, so I had
to get the trailer out there, tew it and all
that set it up, and they were watching me on Instagram.
They're like, you got to move the brisky watch it live. Yeah,
like you got to move this because my buddy was
there filming. And they're like the ribs are done. Like
I was like, no, they're not. They're not done yet.

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And they're just like okay, okay, like just telling me
little things. And I'm like, man, you all worry about
what y'all what the event they were doing, but everything
came out good. It was for their anniversary party or something,
but we did good that day.

Speaker 6 (01:35:46):
And now you're at the best barbecue place on the planet. Yep,
how's how how's it? You know, we love it and Dan,
you're regular there and we love it too. And I
always say that you don't need something to be happening
around there, even though it's nice at Dyke and Park,
but it's a place you should drive an hour and
a half from to come eat there.

Speaker 4 (01:36:01):
And I know you know that I'm not telling you
that you don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:36:03):
And your food's off the charts, But how's business and
how's the transition? And there's got to be a great
buzz And I know people vacation on the summer. But man,
heading through the summer and into the fall, and when
baseball is that it's fine as you guys are in
for something special, aren't you.

Speaker 9 (01:36:16):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:36:16):
I mean with all of the Georgia Brown events, the games,
the Dynamo Stadium, all that stuff, all the concerts happening,
it's crazy, right, you know, especially with the graduations, all
the graduation parties that just happened.

Speaker 9 (01:36:31):
But I mean just working there. The pit room's immaculate.

Speaker 7 (01:36:35):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:36:35):
We've got four one thousand gallon smokers.

Speaker 4 (01:36:38):
You could eat a meal with some.

Speaker 16 (01:36:40):
When I was in there, it feels like you could
eat the meal off the floor. Oh yeah, I'm being serious.
If you walk into that pit room, You've never seen
a pit room that n clean. We've got a great
team that takes care of everything.

Speaker 6 (01:36:51):
Coffee is off the charts. You've got a great group there.
The whole mountain of a man too.

Speaker 9 (01:36:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:36:56):
And the best thing about that place, and mister Toomey,
just the hospitality. I mean everyone from the front all
the way to the back, they're so hospitable.

Speaker 9 (01:37:04):
Everyone's so nice. I've never had a team where from
front to back it's a great solid cri.

Speaker 6 (01:37:09):
Okay, guy Fieri shows up and he says, in order. Now,
I'm not saying that everything's not great, but for you,
we all have our specialty that we love. Right, maybe
you'd eat yourself all the time, every day for the
rest of your life. But if he comes in and says,
I want your three best and you and you're you
got to put on for him, what do you What

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are you making?

Speaker 9 (01:37:30):
For sure? The brisket ribs, I mean that's.

Speaker 4 (01:37:35):
Tages, our sausages.

Speaker 16 (01:37:37):
We all make it all in house. The last couple
of months, mister Toomey has been uh sending like a
secret shopper to go to all that. By the way,
he's ninety six and there most every day every day. Phenomenal. Right, Yeah,
We've been trying all the barbecue around Easton, and I
mean it's kind of sad, like there's some good ones, right,

(01:37:59):
but some of these top tier guys, I'm like, come on,
and this is what y'all are given Houston compared to us,
because we do blind and taste side by side and
by far, I'm like, okay, I know ours is good.

Speaker 4 (01:38:11):
It's phenomen good. Yeah, I want to put that.

Speaker 6 (01:38:13):
I want to cut up that cheddar sauce like ga
and I want to make it my lunch every day
with like a sandwich. I'm talking about too. There's so
many the versatility. It's just like I said, it's we
can sit here and talk about it, but when you
go experience the atmosphere and Dan you well, Dan, tell
me what your first experience was like when you had it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Oh amazing. I mean the brisket, it speaks for itself.
I mean, you know, you try it. And that's the
thing too, is you know, to a Rash's point, there's
so much competition and barbecues becomes so mainstream that you
have a Soso brisket, you remember it. It's kind of
like pizza up in New York. You know, you eat
a Soso slice, you're like, all right, check that one.

Speaker 6 (01:38:48):
Yeah, a lot of it doesn't mean a lot of
good stuff, right, there's some good stuff, but sometimes it
gets water down and says, oh, that's barbecue and Houston.
Pop on into jbar and Barbecue and you'll see why
barbecue and Houston's different.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
The best way that you can describe how good a
place is is you know, you never want to eat
like the same meal over and over again, but it's
oh man, that was so good. I want to go
back tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (01:39:08):
And I'm and the same with me the first time
I went in there is when I went through and
you taste, they put it on a big platter and
your taste and everything right, it's like the family platter.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
I gotta have this.

Speaker 6 (01:39:17):
I gotta have the taste out of col slag. I
gotta have the cheddar sausage.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
Is it? I'm with you, Dan, is it?

Speaker 6 (01:39:22):
While it tasted great, I want something different every time
because every time I taste something different, I feel like
I'm eating the one meal I love. Does that make
sense that I want to eat every day? But I
can't because I'm looking at the menu and say, well,
the chedtar saucea and now let me get the other sausa,
and now let me get this, and I want this side,
and I gotta have this mac and cheese and I
want and to me, that's the versatility of a menu
where it's not just they make good burgers, but they

(01:39:43):
make horrible fries. And there it's not just good brisket,
but the chicken sucks or you know, you know it's
too dry. Sure, there you walk in walk out, and
it's like, what's your favorite meal? I don't know because
there's too many sounds hyperbolic, but it's a fact. And
to me that's when you know you got the right
barbecue and with the if you're using sauce, it's the
right spice you want and the right thing.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
I just it's a pleasure for me to be a party.
But it's the best barbecue I've had.

Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
In this city.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
H rash. When did you get into the business. When
when did you start your journey of being a pitmaster?

Speaker 11 (01:40:14):
Uh?

Speaker 16 (01:40:15):
Barbecue wise, about a little over ten years ago. But
cooking wise, I've been cooking since I was a kid.
My pops was a chef for Marriott and right around
the corner of JW. So as a kid, i'd run
around that place, and as I got a little older,
they put me to work, so chef and cook and
all that.

Speaker 9 (01:40:33):
I've been doing it twenty plus years.

Speaker 4 (01:40:36):
You gotta love it to get up and do what
you do right.

Speaker 16 (01:40:38):
Oh, absolutely, you know long hours. I mean, I got
somewhat of a social life, but it's dedication.

Speaker 6 (01:40:45):
Are you well, of course you got a social life.
You're a pit master. Every zoid in the city. Oh
you cook food, I want him?

Speaker 4 (01:40:51):
Of course you do. So you're never in a bad movie. Also,
were he's not married?

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
All that? He's a pit master over jbar and barbecue.

Speaker 6 (01:41:00):
All right, now, don't let me lose my train and
thought about that the pit master part. Okay, career wise,
do you I mean, is are you doing every day
when you wake up?

Speaker 4 (01:41:14):
Are you doing what you love to do?

Speaker 7 (01:41:16):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:41:16):
Absolutely? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:41:18):
Ever get to a point where you say, it's crazy
sometimes just being.

Speaker 6 (01:41:23):
Around food all the time make you you know how
like when you do something, you eat something to say,
it's like I don't want to be around it anymore?

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:41:30):
How is that for somebody in your position who's the
chef of pit master? Who gets it?

Speaker 16 (01:41:34):
I mean, that's when you create a diverse menu, you know,
so it adds to your the thought process of what
you do. Okay, I'm sick of this. Let's if I'm
sick of it, maybe someone else is too, So let's
add something else, you know. There we get a lot
of female clientele in there, and they want to of
course you do, you're the pit master. They want something light,

(01:41:56):
but you know, so we switch up the menu that
way to have something for the KOs ladies.

Speaker 9 (01:42:01):
Man.

Speaker 16 (01:42:02):
We got our butts kicked on Father's Day of course,
just you know, keeping things fresh in you. I mean,
barbecue and food's changing all the time. There's a new
trend out. It's just staying on your toes and knowing
these things to stay ahead of the curve because some
of these restaurants and barbecue spots they're stuck in the past,
back in the day. They're just doing the same thing

(01:42:23):
they've always done, which some people, like I always tell
people either be consistently crappy or consistently good. There can't
be that middle ground where like, oh, I'm just gonna
switch it up and it sucks, and that's what happens
to some people.

Speaker 9 (01:42:37):
But we're doing a great job.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
So you don't want it to become a job. I mean,
that's what it really comes down to. And get you
out of here. On this one where you see the
Michelin stars starting to be handed out to barbecue spots,
I think, what was it, The Beard James Beard Awards
just just went. I mean, when you got into this
and you started doing barbecue, did you ever envision that
the industry itself would become where it's being nationally internationally rated.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
No.

Speaker 16 (01:43:02):
I always just thought it was going to be like
Texas Monthly and that was it. I didn't really think
James Beard or none of these Michelan things were ever
going to be part of Texas. And it's happening, and
it's really cool to see, and it's good to say, like,
I'm friends with some of these people. I grew up
with these people through the industry and just becoming personal
friends with these guys and it's awesome to see.

Speaker 6 (01:43:24):
It's great seem to be proud of what Texas. Do
you treat barbecue like a chef does a stake. Somebody
says I want it well done, and they send it
back to you. Do you want to Like, I'm gonna
go out there. I'm gonnaell the first They don't know
what the hell they're talking.

Speaker 9 (01:43:35):
I mean sometimes I didn't joke.

Speaker 6 (01:43:37):
I mean, I'm kidding around, But is it the same
feeling of pride, you know how it's supposed to be cooked?

Speaker 16 (01:43:42):
Yeah, And I'm like, okay, Like some of these backyard
barbecue guys, Oh, I make the best brisket and they
tell me how they do it.

Speaker 9 (01:43:48):
I'm like, no, man, that's got right.

Speaker 6 (01:43:51):
Like for a guy who thinks he makes the best
backyard barbecue, best yard, best backyard brisket, give me one
last key here, Like okay, if if you were telling
somebody you're starting out with the brisket that the one
thing you absolutely have to do to make it the
best in the There's a lot of steps, but the
one step.

Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
If you don't do this to perfection, you're screwed. Which
your time.

Speaker 9 (01:44:14):
Take your time, plan out your cook You know some
of these guys that want to rush it or think it's.

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
Because it also take your time cooking it is working.

Speaker 16 (01:44:22):
It at the length of it, right, I mean, don't
rush it, and don't get too drunk. Some of my
buddies they just sit there and guzzle beer and then
they fall asleep and then they come out the pits
off the brisket, burn something burned.

Speaker 9 (01:44:36):
This happens a good one.

Speaker 6 (01:44:37):
Don't overdrink when you're doing and then you got to
call jbarm to make up for your rose because you
fell asleep while you were drinking.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
Supposed to turn it.

Speaker 16 (01:44:45):
And you know, just take your time, plan plan the
cook because some people I got to serve it for lunch. Okay, well,
you know you got to start at midnight or something,
you know, but yeah, maybe have a backup system to
have a buddy or.

Speaker 6 (01:45:03):
This all sounds for me because you know, my son's
a chef and Austin, so it all sounds familiar listening
to the way you're talking about the pride you take
and what it takes because he I mean, and if
you go in in his kitchen when he's cooking, I'm
sure you're saying, it's like.

Speaker 4 (01:45:15):
Don't you touch that utensil.

Speaker 6 (01:45:16):
Don't you get I mean, it's to the point where
it's like even if you get like, oh, you need
to get the mayonnaise out for a son, it's like,
I'll get it, dad blong.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
It's like, okay, man, I'm out. I'm out.

Speaker 6 (01:45:25):
So you guys do a phenomenal job. Thank you, and
we sure appreciate you taking the time. And yes, risk
it's good at eight o'clock in the morning, So it's
at a pino, cheddar sausage and coleslaw and the rest
of it. You guys are phenomenal. I'm grateful to be
part of the family. Dan and I love it. And
from top to bottom there is no better place, and
we appreciate you and your customer service and food's.

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
Off the charts.

Speaker 9 (01:45:44):
Thanks for sure, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
Yeah, roskar At again in from Jbar and Barbecue and yeah,
I'm about to get the meat sweats right here. I'm
ready to go.

Speaker 6 (01:45:52):
Let's go, dude, You're going to miss about two segments
here at about an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
Say take over, Sean, I'm a little busy over here.
That's right, it is Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Get back into the astros conversation. You went a weigh
in someone three two one two five seven ninety, seveone
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Speaker 4 (01:46:10):
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Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
The seven ninety listener line in the eight o'clock hour
is presented by one eight hundred car Cash. That's the
thing too, It's like I always love, you know, especially
with breakfast when people you know, oh you know you
eat pizza for breakfast. It's food sustenance.

Speaker 7 (01:46:27):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:46:28):
You may not like him, but I do.

Speaker 6 (01:46:29):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
Yeah, I'm gonna say, I'm getting going for the days.
So shout out to A Rash and the crew from
over there at Jbar M And that's the thing too.
You mentioned Hoffey Ferrara that he is you see him
in person, you almost even you don't even think that
he's real, Like you're like this, this guy's a pro wrestler,
isn't he Like he's he he's one of those the
strongman competitions any any of those types of things. But uh,

(01:46:53):
he's busy.

Speaker 6 (01:46:53):
He's big enough to go kill the animal with his
bare hands that you're eating. Yeah, that's that's how po.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
He killed it. He butchered it.

Speaker 6 (01:47:01):
Rare that I walk into a guy just annoying, and
you'll be around athletes. It's rare you walk into a
guy and I think he makes me look like I'm
a child, and he's he's he's an enormous but a
great enormous personality to in a just a good dude.

Speaker 1 (01:47:16):
Shake You shake hands with the guy, you feel like
you're shaking a block of granite. Yeah, pretty much at
that point. But Astros winners last night thirteen to three
over the A's out in Sacramento, and the NBA Finals
Game six coming up tomorrow night in Indianapolis, and the
Pacers down at three to two to the Thunder in
that series and Stanley Cup Finals, they go to the

(01:47:38):
Florida Panthers. They take down the Edmonton Oilers in at
six games. But we'll continue the Astros conversation because, as
I teased, you always think that things are bad for you,
but here is showing it can always get worse. We'll
talk about it here. It is the Sean Salisbury Show
Sports Talk seven ninety. Shout out jbar M Barbecue again they.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
Rule more Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety where
Astros and Rockets play and real Texans talk.

Speaker 6 (01:48:08):
Hell, if they didn't even have food there, you'd want
to it was just drinking, you'd want to meet there
because of location. Now you add customer service and great food. Yeah,
I'll take that any day of the week. And once again,
a nice parking lot, and it's a venue that can
host a lot of different things.

Speaker 9 (01:48:22):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
I think you can host up to what three hundred
and fifty people or something there because then you beer
garden outside too. And then you know, one of the
things you always hear about with barbecue is in Texas,
they tell you if you need sauce and the barbecue
is not that great, this doesn't eat sauce. Oh well,
they've got great sauce.

Speaker 4 (01:48:39):
But they didn't bring it. They didn't have to. Now
that's just it.

Speaker 6 (01:48:41):
If you like saying it's okay to dip. It's not
quite like putting ketchup on a steak. Some people like
a spicy sauce. I actually like putting some sauce on
my potato salad. Yeah I did, just I know it's weird,
but I do it just I get that extra Yeah,
for sure, So that adds a little spice to it.
But great barbecue, like anything else, is if you if
it has to have it, probably wrong spot.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
Yeah, Jaybarre and barbecue doudn't no Arash Hoffee and the crew.
They don't need it. But with the astros for all
the belly aching that I've done at times about the offense.
Have you seen how bad things have been for the
Yankees lately?

Speaker 7 (01:49:15):
I have.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
Yeah, they get swept over the weekend by the Red Sox.
They were actually able to score runs on Friday and Saturday,
they didn't score Sunday, they got shut out again, and
I believe was it extra innings on Monday night against
the Angels, and then they lose last night and they
don't score a single run in that game. So they've

(01:49:36):
gone twenty seven plus innings without scoring a single solitary run.

Speaker 6 (01:49:41):
So basically what you're trying to say is even high
powered offenses go through it too.

Speaker 4 (01:49:45):
They do, or a perception of high.

Speaker 6 (01:49:47):
Powered offenses, the Yankees that beloved the Yankees can go
through slumps with the play You mean, Aaron Judge doesn't
hit the ball every single time, weird.

Speaker 4 (01:49:54):
Novel concept does it.

Speaker 6 (01:49:56):
It's a shocker, right, So yeah, and sometimes he's so
busy looking for the things you want, not focus on
things that are playing playing pretty well right now. If
you're winning like this in Vegas, you're up big and
you're coming home happies, I may put a smile on
your face. So this is good stuff, man, And there's
still stuff to always get better on.

Speaker 7 (01:50:16):
We know that.

Speaker 6 (01:50:17):
And listen, it's not exactly like hitting's exploded for ten
games in a row.

Speaker 4 (01:50:21):
They know that.

Speaker 6 (01:50:22):
But you got to You got to find a way
to scrape it out any way you can. And when
you're hanging double digits runs, those are nice ones, but
you also got to win the close ones.

Speaker 1 (01:50:31):
And for the majority of the season they're doing a
pretty good job of that well. And Dana Brown and
who we're going to talk with here in a little
over thirty minutes. I mean he's even said it himself.
He said it last week. He goes, you know, it's
nice to see that we're playing the way that we
are right now and we haven't even hit our stride
at the plate.

Speaker 6 (01:50:46):
They haven't even come close on the consistent basis. Not yeah,
that's exactly right, that's it, but the consistency that they
the sustained consistency that they're used to and they're looking for.
But listen, when one thing's not just somebody else has
to the sustain consistency on the mound has been everything
well more than advertised. Because you didn't expect the advertisement
to include some of the names that were including right now,

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it's impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:51:10):
Well, I mean we rattled off, i mean four different
guys right now that you're having to count on that
are not named Hunter Brown or frommer Valdez. You're counting
on Brandon Walter, you're counting on Colton Gordon, you're counting
on now Jason Alexander and Ryan Gusto in there. And
you're saying, well, wait a minute, Dan, what about Lance
McCullers Junior out, he's got a foot sprain. What about

(01:51:31):
Ronelle Blanco out? Tommy John Hayden was nesky? Same deal? Hey,
where's Christian Hoveer and Luis Garcia still trying to work
their way back? I mean you get my point here now?
And even mentioned Spencer Arrighetti. That's how good that group
has been.

Speaker 6 (01:51:45):
JP France right, I mean the list goes on it right,
and none of them are pitching well.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
It leads credence to what Dana has told us numerous
times too. If you can never have enough pitching. They're
finding that out right now. And you got enough, get
more true, then they've done just that. It's it's the
defensive line coach man, I don't know what I'm gonna
do with all these really good interior defensive linemen. His
response then, or the the DC's response to him, is,
I'll tell you what we'll do. We'll play them, every

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single one of them. We roll the hell out of
these guys, and then next time you can get me
another one, do that too. That's a fact. No, it
definitely is. So things not going great for the Yankees,
and I don't think a lot of us are gonna
feel too sorry for them anytime soon. And you know
we talked about John Boy last week. Go ahead and
talk some sad baseball John Boy. Well he's got a
little bit more coin in his pocket now. But still,

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you know you want to do the buzzer theory all
of that. This is what you get feels like It
feels like Des Bryan a few years ago when one
of his enemies on the field got hurt is they
caught him on camera yelling out, that's what the blank
you get. And that's kind of the way you feel
towards Yankee fans right now. For watching it's so funny
too to follow you know them and like the barstool

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guys and like how angry they're getting right now. And
I'm like, okay, I can. I can empathize because I
get it, but I'm not gonna empathize your man.

Speaker 4 (01:53:04):
You're not gonna feel sorry very long.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
Oh hell no, I'm not, no doubt, damn right, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:53:08):
I'm with you, brother.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
I was gonna say, you got you guys. Continue to
talk the crazy things that you're saying about this team. Well,
guess what, when you're going through it's you get to
enjoy it. So there's a two way street there. That's
that's how it works, and they're finding that out the
hard way right now. Seven one three two one two
five seven ninety Brandon, let's squeeze him in here really quick. Brandon,
what's going on?

Speaker 8 (01:53:29):
Good morning?

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
How are you good, buddy?

Speaker 9 (01:53:31):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
And they're okay?

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (01:53:36):
Astro one?

Speaker 4 (01:53:37):
Yeah they did.

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
Did you watch most of the game? Did you enjoy it?

Speaker 14 (01:53:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:53:41):
I watched the I watched the person okay.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
So you watched it from there and then you turned
it off, so they're up to nothing at that point.
I was outside.

Speaker 15 (01:53:52):
I was watching it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
Cool all right, nice night to be able to do that. So,
I mean you didn't get see Cam Smith and C. D.
Bond and all the other guys start to go to
work with the bats as right?

Speaker 8 (01:54:04):
I saw campshead two.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
There you go. Yeah, he was able to do that.
So you watched a little bit more than just the
first inning? All right? I get you Fromber today? Fromber?
How are you feeling about Fromber?

Speaker 8 (01:54:16):
Good? I'm just about to play in my him.

Speaker 6 (01:54:20):
That's another win. They're not gonna get much off him.
If he's eighty five percent Fromber, he's gonna mow him down.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
He was gonna say it. And the way he's been
pitching lately, he is seven innings plus of dominant baseball.

Speaker 4 (01:54:31):
Now just go hit. He's done.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
He's definitely been that guy for sure. Hey, Brandon, we
appreciate it. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Okay, okay, all right,
see you. Yeah. Fromber Is he's he's been good. Great
fromber at times. Last time too, you know of the
five innings, but the twelve strikeouts, you know that that's
not great fromber Well. I mean when he's been going
six to seven innings and you feel even better about

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those performances. But still feel really good with fromber being
out there tonight.

Speaker 8 (01:54:58):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
The fourth hour of the show includes the bottom of
the hour, Dana Brown joins us for his weekly visit.
But one guy that we've continued to sing the praises
for at least one of us louder than the other.
But those praises are being heard far and wide. Now
we'll talk about him.

Speaker 9 (01:55:14):
Next.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
It is the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 4 (01:55:17):
Ninety Say, okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
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Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
Tyriu Saliburton needs an MRI on that right calf strained
determine how severe it is. But he has maintained that
he will be playing tomorrow night for the Pacers as
they trail a thunder at three to two in that
series and NHL Stanley Cup Finals, the Panthers two straight
years Stanley Cup champions. And you know, before we get

(01:56:02):
back into the astros conversation, primarily Cam Smith, is there
a better trophy in sport to win? Like the Commissioner's Trophy?
It's fun, it's great Lombardy, same deal, Larry O'Brien, you know,
on down the line. I mean, it's not a trophy.
I would say that probably the only one that I
would put in front of it would be a green jacket,
because it's no mistake. You step into a room wearing

(01:56:24):
that green jacket and it's got the Master's logo on it,
the Augusta National logo. It's a oh oh, you're one
of those people like either you're really rich or you're
really good at golf. Both of those things are good things.

Speaker 6 (01:56:36):
To be sure they are, I'm not sure which one
was first in my life. I'm not sure if I
golf would be be great at golf, would be wealthy.
I know that's wacko, but I mean, when I'm on
the golf course of the frustrations kick it in, I'm like,
I'd really like to be great at this to where
you could like, you're just when you make shoot seventy five, you're.

Speaker 9 (01:56:54):
Not very good.

Speaker 6 (01:56:54):
I'd also like to have a billion dollars. But at
times I'm wondering which one I want more. And that's
true because my addiction or my obsession with being a
good golfer.

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
That's kind of the conundrum that Ralph Siferretto on The
Sopranos ran into. Why couldn't I been born rich instead
of incredibly good looking? There you go to burden to bear? Yeah,
bear you know the feeling, Dan, of course I do. Look,
it's one of those things that people have found out
over the course of time that life is easy for
pretty people. You don't you don't want, don't you share

(01:57:24):
it with you You don't you don't see very many
less than good or you don't see very many very
pretty people. You know, I don't know working you know
we're working a hard manual labor job, you know, trying
trying to put things together every seaon and there's some
handsome and good looking, ruggedly good looks out.

Speaker 4 (01:57:44):
There construction cruise.

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
I don't, I don't. I don't think you know Olivia Dune.
You don't think Livy Dune is going to be which,
by the way, that's another thing too we get to
in a second. So you don't think Livy Dune is
going to wait tables? I don't think so why not?

Speaker 4 (01:57:56):
It's not Belower.

Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
It's not that it's Belower. I'm just saying that she's
she's she that's about below her pay grades a little higher.

Speaker 4 (01:58:03):
Than I say. I think.

Speaker 1 (01:58:04):
I think that Livy will be the attraction at the restaurant,
not one of the you know, on the service staff. Right,
not to say that's bad, just saying that, I just
think that she's gonna have other.

Speaker 6 (01:58:13):
Proprietor yes, good word conundrum though, Yeah, have you really
thought about what a conundrum it'll put you in if
you don't use the word sometimes, I mean, not necessarily,
but I just it's one of those that that I
that I do like to use use it in a sentence. Again,
what was it I mentioned about Ralph Siferetto. Uh, let's see,
was wanting wanting to lose weights or you know, wanting

(01:58:36):
to eat that really good five course meal.

Speaker 1 (01:58:38):
You're in quite a conundrum, thank you. Exactly. I'll take
the meal, give me the pound. It's the same thing.
It screw the conundrum. I know that decision you know
of like I'm trying to watch what I eat. It's like, okay, dude,
one meal is not going to kill you. Okay, You're
gonna be just fine. I'm gonna watch it go down perfect.

(01:58:58):
That's exactly what I'm watching. No, I'm not gonna have
a new regrets when it comes to that. Thank you
and people, Oh you know, could couldn't you lose a
little couldn't you mind your own business a little bit more?

Speaker 7 (01:59:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:59:07):
Thank you?

Speaker 4 (01:59:07):
No question.

Speaker 6 (01:59:08):
Now you were teasing a guy that right and wrong
on before we went to break doan cam Smith. Yeah,
so what do you think, Oh, well, we mean pay
it off for me?

Speaker 4 (01:59:19):
You were you weren't wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
I wasn't wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:59:22):
I don't feel like I was wrong in terms of
you know, just to take longer.

Speaker 1 (01:59:27):
Yeah, I mean it's for him being able to do this,
and it's not like last night was you know, the
oh okay, you know kind of like we've talked about
with Christian Walker. All right, maybe that's gonna get him going.
Cam's been hitting the ball well lately and and oh,
by the way, it's one of those that if you're
just talking with somebody, what's Cam Smith's batting average and
ops this year, they'd probably be like, I don't know,
forty five to sixty six, I think seven thirty four

(01:59:50):
ops and playing a good right field right now. So
we're gonna talk with Dana Brown, like I said here
in about a little over twenty minut and I'm sure
that you're probably gonna ask him about Cam Smith. But
he's been a guy that all along has said we're
gonna continue to run him out there, We're gonna give
him chances. And that's the part too that I did
find a little frustrating, as I understand backing him off

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here and there kind of you know, reset the mind mentally.
But he's an everyday guy right now, like you're you're
going to have to work hard to get him out
of the lineup right now for the way that he's playing.

Speaker 6 (02:00:23):
The only way he's coming out of the lineup is
if he's banged up, or if he's if he has
a scheduled day off. Other than that, he's young, his
legs are fine. You run him out there one hundred
and fifty times, and I don't think you're worried about
now what your future looks like in rightfield. I think
you're pretty secure in knowing that the deal. Both teams
so far have won. Unfortunate with the Wesnsky thing, but

(02:00:44):
both teams, the Cubs and the Astros, have won from
this deal. They really have. Both have benefited. It's gonna
cost Chicago a little bit more money if they want
to retain him and keep him, gonna caught the tune
of about four hundred plus probably, But on this side,
who's played pretty consistent lockdown type. I mean, he's played

(02:01:06):
really really solid third base and has hit the ball
well in the parides. And we obviously know what cam
Smith brings to the table, and we were getting a
taste of who was Nesky was. And as we're sitting
here now, i'd love to have Kyle Tucker, but I
don't regret the trade, and I think it'll benefit them
down the road.

Speaker 1 (02:01:23):
Well, if it already isn't, you're not in this position
right now. I mean, you might still be leading the
division and still feel like, you know, all right, hey,
we got a good shot to make a deep run
in the postseason. But Dana Brown kind of breaking a
few eggs from what the Astros had done in recent
years because their mo was, well, let's let it ride

(02:01:43):
and we'll take our chances after that and we probably
find somebody which you're not gonna find, so hope we will.

Speaker 4 (02:01:47):
Sign them in free agency if the price tag isn't crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:01:50):
That's where Dana Brown finally stood up and said, guys,
we can't keep doing this off season move and think
that we're going to stay in contention because soon enough
that well will dry up.

Speaker 6 (02:02:00):
Soon enough that Tree's going to stop the sat with
some people, right, and you got to start giving a mask.
They just can't keep losing guys to free agency to
give yourself a chance.

Speaker 1 (02:02:07):
That's exactly, and I think at the time people looked
at it as, oh, all right, we're punning on twenty
twenty five. No, you're not. You've got two guys still
under contract that are absolute just anchors and albatrosses. For
you and Rafeael Montero who's now in Atlanta, and Josea
Bray you so you're limited in that regard, so you'll
have that money coming off next year. But Dana Brown

(02:02:28):
is saying, I don't give a damn about next year.
I give a damn about right now. We've still got
guys on this team that can win. Why not give
him every opportunity and set ourselves up for future years?

Speaker 4 (02:02:37):
Agreed, Dan.

Speaker 6 (02:02:37):
I do not think for one minute then, when they
made the deal to trade Kyle Tucker, that they thought
that they were going to lag and that they were
that getting to the playoffs was going to be far fetched.
I don't think they thought that. I think they thought
they wait, me take a step back early. But and
the Bregman thing too, If you don't sign him, take

(02:02:59):
a step back so he leaves the other one you
have to trade. Did we may take a step back
early on or deal with some of the pub that's
going to go with this losing these Oh what are
we going to do now? But at some point in
time during the season, the reason we did it will
rear its head, and I believe they think it has,
and so do I are they Bregman and it's Paradis

(02:03:19):
and cam Smith, Bregman and Tucker right now the answer
I mean, I'm just saying, even though you didn't trade
Bregman for for Paradis, that's basically what you're getting out
of this. So in truth, did they did? They really did?
All of us would have thought the same thing that, Okay,
this is a little bit of a step back, you know,
to being a bit facetious. You're talking about two all
stars and now you look at it and you say,

(02:03:41):
I get it, and the step back it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (02:03:44):
It's not as big as I thought it would be.

Speaker 6 (02:03:46):
Even though it is and these guys are proven as
to move forward that it may not be a step
back at all down the road. Right now, obviously, when
you lose those two guys, you're like, okay, the weakness
is going to shine a little bit. But I do
not think the Astros and Dana Brown made this to
think man and we're going to be really good in
twenty twenty eight. I think to your point, I think
they made this and mister Crane to say we're getting

(02:04:07):
a little more youth, spend a lot less money, and
we're not going to suffer. They may not have had
in mind that Jordan was going to miss like this,
But with all that in mind and they're still in
this position. I'd be happy with this position if all
of them were still here and playing.

Speaker 4 (02:04:25):
They're not.

Speaker 1 (02:04:26):
I think that.

Speaker 6 (02:04:27):
And this isn't a roll of the dice. They knew
exactly what they were doing when they made this move,
meaning the Astros, and so now it's paid off early,
early returns, and the long term returns could be even better.

Speaker 1 (02:04:38):
And I mean for a guy like cam Smith too.
We talked about it when they made the decision to
bring them up that I looked at it as this
is a low risk, high reward proposition for you, because
you could have a guy who can continue doing what
he's been doing in spring training. And the low risk
is if it doesn't work out, he'll get it. He'll
understand you go to him and say, hey, you're not

(02:04:59):
quite ready. That's that's on us. That's not on you.
Go down the sugar land, go down the corpus wherever
it is, get your work in down there, and let's
give it a shot in July or sometime down the road,
when you've gotten your confidence back at the plate. You've
worked on some things out in the outfield. But I
mean again, the Astros got to a point as an
organization where they said, struggles, He's gonna go through them

(02:05:21):
despite our best efforts. They're gonna happen. He's gonna have
the slumps, he's gonna have, you know, some of the issues,
maybe even a blunder or two out in the field.
That's going to happen. That's baseball. That's that's what you
sign up for. But I mean it, just for the
life of me, I can't remember the most pronounced one
other than the homeless drought that he had that he
ended last night with two.

Speaker 6 (02:05:42):
Yeah, And I was at him and against sending to
the miners. I was completely against it, just because I
felt that, I mean, from my you know, viewing pleasure
and optics, that he would have learned more the right
way with the big boys and then and I could
have and may still be wrong. I don't think so, though.

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I think when I say arrived the I don't think
a ride. But he's pretty close to securing what the
future is, right. But I just felt that I wanted
to test and see if he did struggle, which he
did at times how he'd respond that to me, He'll
give you the talent's obvious. They didn't get a guy
thinking I wonder if he's talented. He's obviously talented, and
to be able to make the adjustment to right field

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at the blink of an eye. Yeah, of course he's talented.
It was all the other stuff. Can he handles success
and failure? And when he goes in there and he's
a little overwhelmed, will he look overwhelmed consistently at the plate?

Speaker 4 (02:06:33):
And the answer is no, he didn't.

Speaker 6 (02:06:35):
And to me, he just felt like a guy that
if he started out hitting one ninety seven for the
first month, that he was mentally and believed enough in
his ability that this is part and parcel to what
happens to young players. And he's I think the transition
has been quicker than slower, if you want the truth.
Seventy games in, he looks like a he looks like
an everyday pro. We get the best of both worlds.

Speaker 1 (02:06:55):
Back to the conversation we had with Sparky the golf wise,
he's a good ball striker. He is a good ball striker,
but he also puts together a good appat.

Speaker 4 (02:07:03):
Puts together spark.

Speaker 1 (02:07:05):
He said that.

Speaker 4 (02:07:07):
The guy put together bad.

Speaker 1 (02:07:08):
Well, he's a major leaguer. I hope he does. He's
quick witted, but he gets it.

Speaker 4 (02:07:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:07:12):
A solid ball striker. Great, he's eighth on the money
list on the PGA Tour. Of course, he's a solid
ball striker.

Speaker 1 (02:07:18):
And when he throws the ball back into the infield,
I mean you don't hear this, well, actually no, you do.
Spend rate. Uh, he can spend it. He can spend
it throwing it back.

Speaker 4 (02:07:27):
It looks like him. It looks like you have five tools. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (02:07:30):
So, yeah, now all the cliches will use, but the
one thing that's a fact is that the guy's got a.

Speaker 4 (02:07:39):
Well I can tell you this.

Speaker 6 (02:07:40):
At this rate, it's it's gonna cost him a lot
of money one day, meaning whether it's here or so.
You know what I'm saying, it's gonna he's he's gonna
make himself a really, really nice career out of this.
And I think he's going to be a superstar, which
is different than a star. I think he's got all that.
He's the aircraft carrier. Remember that's what that Tina said.

Speaker 4 (02:08:03):
He said.

Speaker 6 (02:08:04):
I was like, what the hell is that even mean,
I can tell you what it means. Load him up
on the back and let's go. He can carry him
and let's go. And there's a lot of people around
him and he can handle them all right on his
shoulders and back.

Speaker 4 (02:08:14):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:08:14):
I did learn after the fact that it's powerful. That
was a popular saying in scouting circles. Is somebody who's
very powerful at the plate, and you call him an
aircraft carrier.

Speaker 6 (02:08:23):
Right, And we used to I used to use that
phrase for bat hear. That was a basketball phrase on
this dude. It was for a big fella.

Speaker 4 (02:08:29):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 6 (02:08:30):
You know, oh my gosh, man, we'll chase. That's an
aircraft carrier, athletic, big run shack aircraft carrier, right, do
it to all run the court, big fella, except shoot
free throws. But yeah, the aircraft carrier is a big, dominant,
powerful force. And obviously the guy in right field has
those abilities definitely does.

Speaker 1 (02:08:48):
Showed it off last night and then some with a
really nice performance out there in Sacramento. Again fromer Valdez
going the night against Louis Severino. Eight o'clock Astros on
deck coming your way. It's a ross Philler production for
that one tonight. All right, let's step away from the
astros just for a second, because a football football sideline
reporter has a take on this trend that is out

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there on social media, and I say, don't stop here,
we'll talk about it. It is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports
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Speaker 1 (02:11:04):
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we know who I'm talking about. She does commercials for them.
It'll make you think you're from around here.

Speaker 6 (02:11:13):
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Speaker 1 (02:11:19):
Man, if there, if there is the you know, sell
the part, live the gimmick. She does both of those
things very much. You go out, you write a song
and sing a song about a truck and yeah four
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Speaker 15 (02:11:43):
See.

Speaker 1 (02:11:44):
And the thing is, too is I always love people
all they sold out. They sold out because they're smart.
What is it better to be chalented product, better to
be talented and living paycheck to paycheck or be talented
and live off said talent. I'll take the second one
every single day of the week.

Speaker 6 (02:12:00):
In some cases with celebrities not real talented and still
making money because Marketer. Yeah, yeah, we've seen plenty of
that out there. So yeah, yeah, Brian, he got into
c stape a little bit.

Speaker 11 (02:12:11):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:12:11):
You tell me how he sounded when you were listening
on radio, Yeah, did.

Speaker 7 (02:12:18):
He hit it?

Speaker 1 (02:12:18):
Though he did, he didn't, I mean a big Stapleton guy.
I heard a story I think it was Luke Comes
when he was on Rogan told the story about he
was in the same suite as Adele at the super
Bowl when Stapleton sing the national anthem and he said
that Adele's reaction was wow, and he goes, if Adele
is doing that, then you know you're doing things right now.

(02:12:38):
She got some soul in her voice too, but she's
she's got a great voice. The soul in Stapleton's voices
a good DNA because you can't buy that. There's pain
in there. There is, that's what it is. Well, it's
a country song, Okay, There's there's pain in most of them.

Speaker 15 (02:12:52):
He was.

Speaker 1 (02:12:53):
He was in everything for the longest time, even if
it wasn't country music. It was a crossover. He's been well.
That that's how he started, That's how he earned his chops.
That's what it was is that. I mean, he he
was a songwriter and then finally somebody, I think because
a lot of those people in Nashville, everybody's in the
music business in Nashville. If you ever go, trust me,
just ask. And even for the writers they're performing at

(02:13:15):
you know, the Broadway places or places you know off
Broadway there and they're trying to get you know, that
part of their career going too. So No, he did
that and somebody was like, dude, you're really good. He
just didn't match the look for the longest time.

Speaker 6 (02:13:28):
Well, I got news for you. The beard, the law,
the look now is an everyday occurrence in this industry.
He's got the petty cowboy he does, he sure does.
And he can go and he's got sold in the
voice and he can get you a little scratchy, a
little bit, get a little bit of everything.

Speaker 1 (02:13:43):
And like you said, it's there's uh, he's he's made
for country singing man. He definitely is.

Speaker 7 (02:13:49):
He definitely is.

Speaker 1 (02:13:50):
That's what you're talking about. Yeah, I love it much.
I'd much rather him a thousand times over. Luke Brian
country girl, shake it fil mel I mean, come on,
what is that? That's a That's a good one you've got.
You've got a couple of them, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (02:14:05):
A beer makes is that his?

Speaker 7 (02:14:09):
Whatever?

Speaker 9 (02:14:09):
Yeah? Yeah, he.

Speaker 6 (02:14:12):
One'll get into your fields. Is when about his friend
on a drink of beer. Yeah, so long my friend. Yeah,
that'll get in your fields if you've lost a family
member of a friend. Yeah, Zach Brown, all all of them. Yeah,
I'll take Stapleton know, oh yeah, any day. Yeah, he's
definitely on the list to go see, that's for sure.
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Speaker 6 (02:16:31):
First place, playing really solid baseball, big win last night
with a lot of bats erupting and a lot of
home runs. And Dana's talked about this a million times
and last night looked like what we talked about. Dana, welcome,
and let me start here first on the pitching side.
How are you doing this? How do you continue to
find guys that at the beginning, now you probably thought
they would most of us, like Jason Alexander, No, we're

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not talking about Seinfeld or it's amazing that they almost
take on this life of We got a step our
game up. We're going to the Houston astros, your ability
to see the forest through the trees in this How
in the world do you guys keep finding these guys?

Speaker 7 (02:17:09):
Yeah, I've said many times, you know on TV and radio.
You know, Matt Hogan really does a pretty good job
of you know, just going through guys that become available,
and we take a look at them, you know, from
a scouting standpoint and the data and information standpoint, and
you know, we get excited about some of these acquisitions.

(02:17:29):
You know, we have really good pitching people here in
this organization that do an outstanding job, you know, starting
with our you know, major league staff. You know, we
have Josh Miller and Murphy there up to the major
league level, you know, and then we have Nison that
does a great job, you know, with some of our
minor league guys. And so these guys know, you know,

(02:17:50):
the drill. They understand what we're doing in this organization.
They've done it for a long time. And these guys
get after it, man, and you know they certainly uh,
you know, make it make it look good for for
the club, and and and these guys step it up
when they get up here.

Speaker 6 (02:18:06):
Dana, what was there anything that surprised you about Alexander's
performance last night.

Speaker 7 (02:18:12):
Well, the thing that you know, really surprised me is that,
you know, he just took the ball and got into
strike something. He was like really competing, no fear through
a lot of strikes. You know, mixed his pitches very well.
You know, good sinker was a hard slider and kept
the guys off balance, and so he really competed.

Speaker 6 (02:18:35):
Okay, Dan, I want to know from your from your
expertise and scouting and seeing talent. When you're just using
Jason Alexander as an example from his past in Oakland
and the minor leagues, what did you see that.

Speaker 1 (02:18:47):
Said this guy can help us? What told you?

Speaker 6 (02:18:50):
Just from your vantage point, not anybody else's what what
told you this guy could be this guy at least
after one start.

Speaker 7 (02:18:58):
Yeah, what happens is, uh, you know, our process is
Matt Hogan. He takes a look at the information and
the data when he when he's when these guys become available,
and then we have a nice conversation. He pulls up
the video that I look at it from a scouting perspective,
and then you know, when we agree on guys, we
make the acquisition. And you know that's kind of like

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our process and you know, we we we really grind
through this, you know, quite often, and try to get
these guys to add to our depth because as I mentioned,
you know a long time ago that there's one hundred
and sixty two games and you need all of these
arms to get to a season. And this is a
big part of what we're doing.

Speaker 6 (02:19:41):
Dana, I know the expect he Dana Brown asked GM
for his weekly visit here on Sports Talk seven ninety
I know, asked, when when you bring somebody the expectations,
you guys want to win them all and you play
them all and it's not realistic, but that's going into
each game, I said earlier on this show, And you
tell me, do you agree or disagree anyway? You Like
I said on this show that the record they're carrying now,
if Jordan was healthy, if they didn't have any injuries

(02:20:04):
on the starting pitching staff, and the guys they ended
in spring training were coming in and they were all healthy,
I'd say most of us would still be happy with
this record at this time of the year.

Speaker 1 (02:20:14):
Losing Bregman, losing Tucker, some of the we would be happy.

Speaker 6 (02:20:18):
And yet with all those injuries and with you know,
Jordan being out and the pitching staff and the rest
of it and new guys coming in.

Speaker 4 (02:20:25):
I would think that you've got to be ecstatic.

Speaker 6 (02:20:27):
And I know it's a long season, but the static
considering where you are when I would have said, I'll
take this record if everybody was healthy, right, I.

Speaker 7 (02:20:35):
Think it's all about the culture here. You know, you
come here, you know, and it starts with the manager.
He talks about this a lot because he's been here
for a while. You know, we have a culture here
that you know, we're expected to win. You know, our
owner let us know that our window is always open,
and you know we we grind through this every single day.
And you know, we're very proud of how our guys

(02:20:57):
are stepping up. They do a very good of stealing
these holes. I mean last year, you know, we had
a better record. You know when when Tucker went on.

Speaker 15 (02:21:06):
The IL, guys stepped up. You know this year, you know,
guys stepping up. Your's on the I L And so
you know these guys, you know, they they consistently step up.
We know what the coach is like.

Speaker 7 (02:21:19):
We're expected to win, and we go out and we
give it are all and let the chips fall what
they may, but we give it are all every single day,
whether it's you know, on the field, in the front office,
and everything that we do in this organization.

Speaker 6 (02:21:35):
Data Brown askedros GM a few more minutes here for
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You mentioned yord on how much closer are we data
and timeline we do? We know an exact Timelineers is
still a day to day thing.

Speaker 7 (02:21:50):
Yeah, still a day to day thing. He feels a
lot better. I mean, of course we're communicating with him
every day. His hands fells a lot better, and you know,
we're playing well right now. We want to really make
sure that we take our time because we're going to
need him for the stretch because that's going to be
a big stretch, you know, when he gets back. And
so still day to day feels a lot better. Not

(02:22:13):
really taking swings right now, but you know, I think
he's what he's doing is he's holding the bat and
ripping the bat and he doesn't feel anything, and so
that's that's a that's a good thing for us.

Speaker 6 (02:22:24):
And you are you continuing up on him telling you
that he feels better and he's not feeling as much pain,
but the full heel, so you don't come back prematurely.
It is still taking pictures and going through the MRIs
to make sure that you're updated week to week or
day to day on the on the pictures and what
they look like.

Speaker 7 (02:22:41):
Yeah, so it's uh, you know, we had multiple mriyes
for him, and you know, he's over eighty percent just
about eighty percent healed and it's getting better every day.
And so that's the beauty of where we are with him.
And so you know, we're very optimistic. And so once
he feels really good, because he's been feeling great, but

(02:23:04):
once he feels good for a certain period of time,
we'll let him start to take some swings and then
we'll get him more baseball activity.

Speaker 6 (02:23:14):
Danis cam Smith ahead of what you thought he'd be
at this point in his career for you guys when
you made the trade.

Speaker 7 (02:23:22):
Yeah, because when we made the trade, we didn't envision
that he would be contributing to the major league team.
Excuse me, he we didn't envision he would be contributing
to the major league team this soon. You know, had
a great spring. We gave him an opportunity and he's handled.

Speaker 6 (02:23:39):
It very well.

Speaker 7 (02:23:40):
And then last night is a glimpse of what we think,
you know, he could be. You know, with the four hits,
you know, he got to the beauty is he's gotta
He got a hit infield, hit with his legs. He
showed power by pulling two home runs and he got
a double going the other way. And so that's what
we envisioned. Cam Smith is going to be a guy

(02:24:00):
who could hit line to line, you know, using all fields,
using his legs and playing good defense. And so it's
been truly good to say that he's he's handling this well.
And we always felt like the makeup was pretty special,
but he's handling it well. We you know, were grinding

(02:24:20):
for him to continue to do well so we can
continue to play them and continue to contribute to this team.

Speaker 6 (02:24:26):
Danel, when you when you trade a guy like Tucker
who's a hell of a player, and it's like, okay,
now what and then you guys go and make the
deal with Nesky and Paratus and obviously Cam Smith, how
long did you envision the returns. I'm sure Chicago thought
they'd get immediate return and they have, and so of
you guys but how long did you envision did the
like the big returns for Tucker in that notwithstanding was

(02:24:50):
Nesky's injury. But you know, your corner third basement, your
corner outfielder, how long did you think it take before
it paid off like you envisioned when you made the trade.

Speaker 7 (02:25:01):
Yeah, I mean we envisioned that it would fully pay
off sometime in twenty twenty six, when we felt like
Cam would get to the big leagues at some point
at the end that year. But the fact that he's
contributing now, you know, he's kind of stepped it up.
You know, we know what Desi got hurt. We know
that you know, Peretis has been really good for us.

(02:25:22):
So you know, look, we felt like all along that
this was going to be a good trade for both sides.
But you know, as I said before, we knew that
we wanted to compete in the presence and extend this
into the future, and so that was part of the
reason why we made the trade. We felt like it's
going to be a good trade for both sides. But
we felt like, you know, getting those fourteen years of

(02:25:45):
control with all the three of those players was going
to be valuable to this organization, and we're really excited
about you know, how this is playing out right now,
and you know, we our hope is that we continue
to get the same production from these guys, because you know,
this is kind of how we envisioned it.

Speaker 6 (02:26:01):
No doubt, is Christian Walker starting to look I mean,
the things starting to move a little bit for him
in the right way. I know he was sitting hard
day you said that all year, but starting to move
luck wise, and just the way he's approaching his position.
Are we close to seeing a breakthrough because we've seen
a couple of home runs in the last few days.

Speaker 7 (02:26:18):
Yeah, I think he's read at the verge. You know,
I think a lot of this is, you know, he's
been so frustrated because he's been unlucky as a hitter,
you know, because he's hitting balls hard, and you know
a lot of our information says, look, he's he's having
pretty good at bats and so we just have to
be patient. But the production will come because he's been
productive his entire career and so he's really starting to

(02:26:41):
heat it up. He's really you know, going through this.
It's a tough gig for you know, a lot of
the hitters when they go through these down times, but
he's really kept it together mentally and he's strong mentally.
And look, we really feel like he's on the verge
of breaking out. And you know, as I said last week,

(02:27:01):
these are his months, you know, June, July, and August
is where he does a lot of damage in his career,
and so we're looking forward for good things to happen.
So this is clips of coming attractions. Danny.

Speaker 6 (02:27:12):
You guys do a great job of manager to general manager,
scouting staff, of conversing regularly and communicating. And I know
you've said it's a Joe decision about the lineup, but
has there ever been the conversation that you guys thought
maybe because you moved like to get pain, you move
them up to the one hole, yainer in the two
hole and done a great job with putting people in
position where expectations either grow or they can take pressure off.

(02:27:34):
With Christian Walker, was there ever any thought that let's
move him down in the order, hit him in a
seven hole and see if he doesn't get pitches that
he can drive then, or you know, and keeping him
there until he gets that feeling back where he's got
squeeze and sawdust out of the baseball bat.

Speaker 7 (02:27:49):
Yeah, we have conversations all the time, but these decisions
were made by Joe Spota. You know, Joe's been in
a game for a long time. He's seen some sluggers
struggle at at times in his career. He knows that
from his experience. So sometimes you drop him down in
the order, you get him to relax a little bit,
and sometimes they see a little bit more fastballs, you know,

(02:28:11):
and it's less pressure and you know, when you're not
in that three four area. And so look, he used
his experience, and I think Joe does a good job
of moving guys around in the lineup, you know, especially
the Pinia move that was, you know, a really good move.
And I think Joe kind of just used his baseball
experience because he's been in a game for a long

(02:28:33):
time and and it worked out. And so we think,
you know, doing that. Of course, we feel like Walker's
ran on the verge of exploding.

Speaker 6 (02:28:43):
Dandy before I let you go, so you don't have
to walk through every single injury. Is there any other
encouraging news from some of the you know, the Garcia,
the Arraghetties, any encouraging news that gives you Okay, man,
we're making some progress.

Speaker 7 (02:28:56):
Yeah, Arrogetty's going down. He's going to throw, you know,
off the mound this week and in West Palm Beach.
That's very encouraging. He's been biting at the bit. You know,
McCormick is doing baseball activity. Javier looks really, really good
in his sides. You know, JP France is also looking good.

(02:29:18):
You know the Senzo's hand, uh, you know, he's he's
paying free. And so these guys are coming back, and
you know, we do have a lot of injuries, but
that's part of the game. Other teams are going through
the same thing, and no one's gonna feel sorry for you.
You just have to continue to grind through it. And
I give our guys credit. You know, our guys were
stepping up and that's the beauty of this club. And

(02:29:41):
you know, they show up every day. You know, our
fans show up every day. We've got a good contingent
of fans out here in Sacramento. And so we're in
the grind and you know, we have a vision of
continuing to win, and it starts by you know, continue
to build this lead, staying for place. When the division
go deep into the posted.

Speaker 6 (02:30:02):
It'll be a good problem to have when you have
a lot of depth and decisions like that. It'll be
a good problem when everybody's healthy. Datea great stuff man.
Game three today of this series, and we'll look forward
to the result and a good result, and we appreciate
your time. We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 7 (02:30:16):
Yeah, I love it. Let's go ask your fans. We're
fired up.

Speaker 6 (02:30:20):
Yeah, apparently those backs were two as well last night.
We look forward to next Wednesday. Dana, thank you and
enjoy the rest of this trip. That's Dana Brown for
his weekly visit. We always appreciate him. We'll come back
and discuss. I got high hopes and I think they're
ahead of the ahead of what's going on and what
they expected of that.

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Speaker 1 (02:30:45):
Absolutely huge South Carolina fan, I mean die hard and
he's not just one of those two that like, you know,
oh hey, I'm a huge fan of the team. You know,
I loved it when it was you know, all these
guys and those guys and it's like, oh okay, well
what do you know about the current team? Through and
through he'll give you the too deep. He put up
the football team right now.

Speaker 6 (02:31:02):
I've been fortund I got his Monday after the Master's
golf tournament to blast.

Speaker 4 (02:31:06):
Dude.

Speaker 6 (02:31:06):
He puts on a great golf tournament, too, good time.
He's a he's a he's one of the best. He
came to my golf tournament as well. He's one of
the really really good guys in the industry and obviously
very versatile and fun.

Speaker 4 (02:31:17):
He's he's he's cool, he's but it's fun.

Speaker 6 (02:31:19):
He puts on a great tournament with all those guys
after the Masters and in South Carolina. Yeah, he's uh,
that's his home and he freaking loves it. He's on
the list of people to meet. Yeah, so I definitely
hope I can do that one of these days. But
just talked with Astros GM Dana Brown that I'll be
up on the website here very shortly. Astros winning last
night thirteen to three over the A's and from er

(02:31:41):
Valdez going to go tonight. Of all the things he
talked about, I mean, encouraging on the injured guys, that's
that's nice to hear. Encouraging on Christian Walker and look,
you know it's one of those all you do is
praise Dana. He hasn't really steered us wrong when he's
talked about guys and then being close to breaking out.
We've had We've also had time when we've disagreed, maybe

(02:32:01):
it's something, and most of the time he ends up
being right. I remember last ye he said we're twelve
and twenty five. I remember him distinctly saying we're gonna
get hot and we're gonna go and we people, yeah, yeah, okay, right,
win the division. So I'm gonna ask for trust his experience.
I'll question him on a lot of things, but he
rolls to it. But the believability he has in this team,

(02:32:22):
and it's hard to argue twenty twenty five success with
what they've had to deal with so far this year.

Speaker 7 (02:32:28):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (02:32:28):
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