Astros Pitchers & Catchers Report, Bregman Signs Deal With Red Sox, Rockets Beat Suns, Chandler Rome Talks Bregman's Signing

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:08):
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Speaker 4 (00:22):
Brockets win a Men Thompson with another triple double.

Speaker 5 (00:25):
Alex Bregman signing with the Boston Red Sox three years,
one hundred and twenty million dollars opt outs after each season.
Sewn tripley Good morning red Socks.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, forty million a year.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
Give forty mil dog. We're getting into a man's wallet.
I saw you come in here pissed off. And how
how could breg you get forty million? I don't Yeah,
why is our heart pay forty million year?

Speaker 6 (00:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (00:56):
I heard that. I mean it's all right, forty million year.
Come on, man, that's what that Listen, that's what That's
what the Red Sox do overpay. Yeah, I mean sounds
like triple Is it racist or hate? Which one is it?
I know, hatet both, little boy. Really, it feels it

(01:19):
feels a little bit like you're all over al leave
out al Bregman alone, al Bregman forty mil for three.
But here's the best part. Of the deal. He gets
opt outs every year. Come on, when you give a
player forty million dollars in a year and then you
get allowed to opt out, why are you giving him

(01:40):
an opt out more than one? It makes no sense.
It's the dumbest thing in the planet. If forty millions
for three years isn't enough to get him there, then
I don't want him exactly. If he has to have
the opt out for me to get him, he can
go play somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
We're breaking the bank for you. But yeah, here you go.
Here's your opt out. Makes zero sense.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Excuse me?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
How to drink coffee makes zero sense to me. And
he's gonna be playing second base. Devers ain't coming off
third base.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Think about it too well, then you're losing something if
you're Boston that way, if you're really gonna cater to devs.
The fact of the matter is, well, Devers is a
hell of a player, great hitter. The team's better with
Alex Bregman at third. Devers glove isn't an Alex Bregman's league.
Why waste him at second base? Yeah, it makes no

(02:30):
sense to me, because you become better defensively with him
at third base. We'll see how the Red Sox approach that.
But going back to this, it's it's such a I
almost feel like when you give a guy the opt
outs that it's such a two ways it's just a
slap in the face on both sides.

Speaker 7 (02:48):
You.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
I mean, if you're the player, I want it to. Oh,
you're gonna let me go hit thirty home runs, possibly
in Fenway Park and get my game ripe, and then
I can leave on you if I want, if I'm
not happy, and go make forty five or fifty million
or thirty million for five or six years. Yeah, I
don't to me. Your all your guarantees and the love

(03:11):
were showing you is the one hundred and twenty million
guaranteed dollars at forty million a year. Yeah, So nobody
wanted to take a sniff at twenty seven or twenty
eight or thirty million a year for six years, but
the Red Sox were willing to pay forty for three
and give him an opt out after every year.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
He would have been dumb not to take that. Yeah,
So it was, uh, let me see. I saw a
report this morning. The Tigers reportedly offered him six years,
one hundred and seventy one million dollars, some of it
being deferred, but Bregman went with the obviously the forty
million year.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
Yeah, I uh, good on him. Hell, he was able
to get it. I think that's uh. I think that's
frigging awesome. But it's the the opt outs for the
Red Sox. I mean, are you counting on him being there?
I mean you could guarantee he's gonna be there for
three years if in fact, you decided not to give

(04:05):
an opt out. I don't think he'd Why would he
have turned that down? I know you don't, because in
three years he may still get another two or three
year big year. Contrary, if he proves that his bat's
the same as it was in twenty nineteen. I just
but sucks that were losing him. But I'm told, like
I told you from the very get go during season

(04:27):
last year, if he leaves and goes to the Red Sox,
I'll be less bothered. Well, I didn't lose in this one,
no selfish, But.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
When this free agent period started, you and I both
agreed that we could see him ending up with the
Boston Red Sox. Yeah, if he's not coming back here,
and look at it, it happened to be the Boston
Red Sox.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
And if he can't get that short, compact stroke back
with his eye and walking a hundred times and doing
the things he can do with that Fenway. I know
the temptations that that place can bring you as a hitter, right,
you want to pull everything. But if he gets back
to being able to, you know, get that barrel out
and barrel him up and tatter that left he the

(05:10):
guy could lead the league in doubles if he's doing
the way Alex bregmants done in the past. But the
temptation is, can you still push them? You know, all
everybody goes through it. I wouldn't you. I would if
you're getting that ballpark and you know you got power
and could turn on it, it it'd be It's a
very It's a dangling carrot for hitters. It's a great
thing for a guy like Devers who's pounded that wall,

(05:30):
hitting the other, you know, left hand side of the plate.
He'll hit that ball. The good hitters, that left handed
hitters and Fenway, Ted Williams, Carl you, Stremsky, Wade Bogs,
all the great left handed hitters in that ballpark tattered
that left field monster on a regular basis always and
used it. And then the smart ones, the great hitters.
Manny when you pitched him inside would destroy it and

(05:51):
Poppy would spend a bunch of time going the other
way too. But Manny was also one of the great
that a gap to gap but a right center field
power many Ramirez, and even when he got to Fenway,
he didn't allow Fenway wall to prevent him hitting. So
it's it's Bregman's going to a place that can enhance
his game, and he got paid handsomely for it on

(06:12):
short term and he gets an opt out. So yeah,
what I'm saying after twenty six, after twenty five, and
after twenty six, after twenty seven, if he stayed, he'd
be a free agent anyway, because that third year of
the deal got paid, got generational wealth again, and it's
forty million of it playing on a city that's a
passionate baseball town, and there's you know, hoping there's plenty

(06:37):
of baseball left in him down People want to ask,
why is he waiting? Why is he waiting? You got
your answer? What's he doing? We got to do it?
Like and I know we all feel and we all do.
There's that sense of doesn't he owe us to tell us,
or shouldn't you do it earlier to make a decision,
and the truth of matters and you're free agents answers, No,
you're doing it because you've earned the right to be

(06:58):
a free agent. And with that, and you know, with
that out in front of him, they held out and
held out and maneuvered and maneuvered, and Boris did what
he does. And even this late in the game, the
dude got forty million a year for three years and
two opt outs.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Do you realize he is now tied for fourth with
the highest fourth highest contract per aav It's Shoheo Tani
at seventy million year, wan So Too at fifty one,
Zach Wheeler at forty two, Aaron Judge at forty and
Alex Bregman at forty.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
Listen, judging from judging with his offensive offensive performance last
three years and this money and guaranteed he's overpaid by
a lot. He's not one of those guys by fifteen mili.
He wasn't twenty nineteen on a sustained basis. He's not
one of those guys.

Speaker 7 (07:46):
He is.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
He's he's overpaid for what he's produced offensively. Yeah, the
last three is he just had. He just is I mean,
doesn't make him bad. And I know that sounds like
the end of the wallet. If he had made twenty
four million, I'd said he's under paid and just said
the same thing. He's overpaid, and probably by a great distance.
I mean, I can think of fifteen players that I'd
say I want to clutch situation more than no offense.

(08:09):
I just can't. I'm talking about with the way he's
hit lately the last couple of years sustained the consistency
and the walks really concerned me. From last year to
this year, you know, forty four walks down from what
over one hundred. Yeah, and that's like close to six
hundred forty four and had a buck nine or buck
twelve or something, buck fifteen, whatever it was. But yeah,

(08:31):
in the in the terms of the pecking order, you're
worth it if you can get it because somebody paid it.
People say what's he worth. He's worth what he can negotiate,
and so Boris and him negotiating Bregman, they're worth what
they can negotiate. Because somebody out there only takes one
to put you in the category. They felt he's worth it,
worth it enough that you're willing to let him walk

(08:52):
if he has an MVP season two years in a row.
So that's why you waited. He got a deal, maybe
the deal he wanted, but damn, that ain't far off. Okay,
if you're not gonna get the years, but somebody's gonna
pay you about thirteen or fourteen more million a year
than the going rate for your position, and you're not
even the best at your position offensively. Matter of fact,

(09:13):
you're not even in the top three right now offensively
at your position. Yet I want him. I'm glad he's
going to the Red Sox if he left here. Glad
he's going to my life long where my heart's been
team forever. But I hate to say, it's gonna look weird.
It's talking to a friend this morning. It's gonna look
weird seeing him out of playing somewhere else. It's just,
but we say that about anybody who's been here a while, right,
It's just it's a I know, it's gut wrenching for somebody.

(09:36):
You had to you had to know what was coming
after all this time, and they weren't going to payhim
forty million, and they weren't going to give an opt out.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
No, I mean we all knew he was going to
go somewhere, but not for forty million.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
And and two opt outs built in. Yeah, it's a
good gig man, if you can get it, and he
got it. And you know, at forty million a year,
imagine if he'd ha hit three thirty with twenty eight
home runs, one hundred and five RBIs and walked one
hundred and fifteen times. Imagine what that whether you know
what have been it had been close to forty million
a year, thirty five to forty million year for six years,

(10:08):
that's what it would have been. Now he gets to
go shine, I can tell you this, and he's we
all talk about his toughness and his confidence and his grind,
and he will work. I'm anxious to see his slow start.
I'm just telling you know, on the East Coast, fans
that Boston Philly corridor, that area up there in New
York Boston Philly two months he's going to If he

(10:33):
slow starts like he has here, they will boo him
in the first three weeks. I'm just telling you they
will boo his ass in the First, if he starts
off he's sitting two twelve and struggling, which has been
his history, he will get booed mercilessly in Boston, Okay,
And then you'll start to hear this all the only

(10:54):
and they'll know that he's a slow starter, but you
will get it'll be mur they will unload on him
and he won't make an excuse, but that's what they'll do.
And then you know what's gonna the cat calls to
start coming from some about on the won er. In
twenty seventeen, you won a world so you'll get that,
there is no question. Yeah, and Core I'm sure's loving
this because he's gonna put him probably in the two
hole in the lineup, I would imagine, somewhere down in

(11:15):
the order there. I'm just unless he wants the Deff's
Aaron Bregman in the three hole. But the production. But
if he starts out fast, he'll be a king. That
that's one thing. But they will He's going to face
a different wrath if this slow start, then he's ever
faced here. It's a different rat. It's a different wrath
end you know what I mean. It is just different.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
April and may last year. He hit two nineteen, two sixteen.
In April two nineteen, his average was two nineteen coming
out of May with an ops of just six fifty two.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
If that's the way he starts, they're going to unloading.

Speaker 7 (11:49):
Now.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
That doesn't mean no quit on him. If he made
an excuse along the way, then it'll be worse. And
even even in June he got it up to forty eight. Yeah,
they will be all over him for forty million a
year too. If that happens, that dude better hit. He's
got to hit over three hundred. If that, this would
be a good time to have his fastest start of
his career. But because they will be and then you're
gonna test these relentless because there's no disrespect here. It's different.

(12:11):
But I'm just telling you they're a little more patient.
He struggles. They know his struggles. They say that's just bregmant.
He'll come out of him. They don't. They may know it,
but they're they're not gonna be nearest patient right and
they are gonna he starts slow. It'll be the biggest
test outside of two thousand, this this scandal when people
get into other bull but even worse because it's going
to be his home crowd. That's what's gonna be on

(12:32):
him if he starts slow. That's part of making forty
million dollars in those expectations. And it's just different here.
I'm not saying they're better baseball fans, but I can
tell you this, they are more harsh out I'm talking about.
I'm talking about the more the out loud. They are
far more abrasive than than then he's ever seen here.
Slow start, Oh, that's Braggy. He's got Bregman will be fine.
Slow start there. It's like, but what's the bug doing here?

(12:56):
Pariah and the one of the side, No, one of
the socks couldn't win a world championship in seventeen. He's
a cheetah. The guy's a cheetah. And we got here.
Get Deva's back to third. Where's the trash kid back? Then?

Speaker 8 (13:10):
Give me Brady Carboll back in Cinna yet ship car
Bowls problem? What a bum boy's Butch Hobson that when
you need him at third base? I can even take
out Louis Apparicio back with get the bum out?

Speaker 4 (13:25):
What's the what's their play by play? In color? Color
Analyst Guy he's got the thick Boston. Oh you're talking about, well,
Mrloney's Marloney. And on the TV side Marloney and then
when and.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
Ucleus split times and the uh and then the play
by plagu I said, Dave O Bryant, Yeah, is it
Davi O Brian. Yeah, he's the he's a TV guy.
Okay TV. You talking about the radio team, and there's
one he's either the Mrloney is the analyst that you hear,
a hardcore he works for he did stuff for w E. I. Yeah,

(13:58):
what's his what's his room? Maloney? Marloney? Hey, here's a
bumb I'm trying to cut a family pack and I
gotta deal with Bregman. Nobody's gon banging trashkin. That's what
you'll hear. But you'll love those red Sox. Oh that's
not him, dude, man, this guy's older. I'll find it.
I'll find it. Well, it's not it's not the because

(14:18):
you know Jerry Remy used to be passed away and
dogs not there anymore. No, it's uh.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
But this guy's thick ass accent is like what I
can imagine a Boston fan and I hard hat guy,
his son, they're sitting in some badass seats and they're
just pissed because he said.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
Well he'll have then there they'll have their seven year
old calling the guy a bum that because they watched
their pops to it when the when somebody struggled, Yeah,
the same guy called him bum. And this is who
they are. That's okay, will be the same guy that.
Once you get going, let's take Bregmany to buy the
guy at bea unbelievable. We got to take him over
to Southie and show him where the tough guy's on
sad Southie, you know. And and I'll tell you that

(14:58):
Affleck and Affleck and went to Now damon, they love
the guy. I love him here in the pie Fenway pocket.
I mean that's so. But he'll he'll feel experience bole.
He will go through a skid where they blew him, right.
I mean, it's just gonna happen where where he struggles.
But it breeds a lot of a different mentality, a
toughness that will go on there. But uh, we look

(15:21):
the forty million, ok all the beer I can buy
with that? You know? You know how they I gotta
go pray, I gotta go say a prayer to my
my priest and visit I forty million. I'm over here
grinding in the in the you know, the the I
opened a bar. I got to all my friends want
to drink for free. I got the Italian mafia will

(15:43):
roll in the air battling the Irish mafia. What are
we doing here? And Bregman's making forty f and million
dollars a year. You know they're gonna do but gonna
They're gonna love him if he rakes because they are
I maybe I'm different, but I love going there and
listen because they are passionate, abrasive that they impatient and

(16:04):
that's okay, Yes, that's that's just just a different world. Man.

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Speaker 2 (17:15):
Let's go. This is this Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
But if he does get on the trade and please
let it stop at feny and they did so. Now
I'm you know what I won from You can't win
from losing. They say, you can't, but you can. Yeah,
you never go broke taking a profit either. Well, apparently
the Red Sox, well Bregman ain't going broke buck twenty.

(17:39):
The Red Sox lineup just got better, and they got
better defensively. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Sure, Bregman back with former bench coach here, Alex Cora
now the manager up in Boston. We're gonna have Chandler
Rome of the athletic join us in seven minutes at
six thirty. He's down at West Palm Beach Astro spring training.
He was the one that broke the news of Alex
Bregman Uh going to Boston. Seven seven ninety is the

(18:06):
number to join Mike. Good morning, Good morning guys.

Speaker 9 (18:10):
Yeah yeah, son of my thunder. So let's let's chick
out the patience of the thin wave faithful when he
Uh starts off the first two months, he has started
off slow each of each of every year. I call
that a trend. And you know, a lot of a
lot of his value was how much he is at
the end of the year playoff time. Well, if the

(18:31):
Red Sox are double digits behind the Yankees into Baltimore
by June, they're probably not gonna make the playoffs. So
there you go with that point.

Speaker 10 (18:41):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (18:42):
The other thing is he's gonna face Al East pitching
just go around. You know what, do you see Pole
twice when he was with the ass of this twice
the season where he's gonna see him a lot more
than that. And the names of the under Stead pitchers they
always said, I'm driving guys taup.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, I mean he's gonna be he's gonna be going
up against the all those young dudes from Baltimore Orioles, Baltimore. Yeah,
I mean he's gonna have to face the Yankees, now Tampa,
he's gonna have to face Toronto, like he's gonna see that.
Ao East is ain't no slouch.

Speaker 9 (19:16):
So nope, nope, And and Sean. I don't know how
many the athletes think about this. I would think about
it when you signing up for Sally, I know it's yeah,
I lost I lost my I lost my life when
I heard ear tax is up in the Massachusetts. That's

(19:37):
got to take a chunk.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, there's no doubt they'll be appreciate you, Mike,
appreciate it, buddy, drive safely, They'll be There's no doubt
taxes are gonna hit a little different than they do
in Texas when you're in Massachusetts, make make make no mistake.
But well, I guess when you make forty million. Here's
the one thing about paying tax Although we wish, like
I said, I can get to a we can get

(19:59):
to a financial uh show and talk would be nice
to have a flat tax. Yeah, but he I always
say this, if you're gonna pay taxes, it's nice to
have the money to pay them. If you're getting taxed
a lot, it's because you're making a lot.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
So yeah, you know, me paying taxes right now, it sucks. Yeah,
I don't have that that type of money.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Dog. Yeah, but he's gonna pay more than you because
he makes more, as you should. That's exactly right. You
pay your fair share. Oh yeah, and if it's everybody.
That's why I always say either way, if the flat
tax was fifteen percent, fifteen percent of one hundred and
twenty million, you know, it is a lot of money.
You know what, really fifteen percent of ten thousand.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
We need a financial show because I can go off.
Yeah that really bothers me. Is like when we get bonuses,
they taxed thirty three percent of it.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Oh yeah, come on, dog. Yeah, I just don't believe
that Bregman should be taxed at a higher tax bracket
than you and me. So everybody flat across the world.
Why yeah, if you, if you, if you're a lawn
musk and you get and you get taxed on four
hundred billion dollars, that's that's a hefty sum. You employ
about thousands and thousands. I'm just using him because he's

(21:04):
the most wealthiest man in the world.

Speaker 7 (21:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
And if you're making thirty grand a year and you're
in a fifteen percent tax back, I guess what you're
not getting your You're it's relative to what you make,
and that's fair. Yeah. Well, why should somebody who is
kicking ass in his job pay any more? I mean,
he's in it. He's paying more anyway because he earns more,
But percentage wise, he shouldn't have to pay more. Everybody

(21:28):
should pay percentage according to what they earned. But the
great thing about earning eleven is you can pay your taxes.
That you're getting tax because you're earning eleven.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
My goodness, those taxes are going to hit different up
to Oh of course, it's going to be alarming.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
Oh, it's it's stupid think about the states I lived in, Dude,
I lived in grew up in California, and lived in
Connecticut for three years. Yeah, and jumped to the middle
of the country and said he's find Texas.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yeah, yeah, even But did you spend some time in Arizona.
Well you were a kid though, so.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yeah, yeah, but so it was yeah, I've seen the
what and then I've seen the cities or property taxes
like Texas are that much, man, And then you go
to play, say federal taxes that much. And then you
go to say state taxes what and then you goes, oh,
there's no state tax So hey listen, man, So you're
getting hit some way. Yeah, it just depends on where

(22:22):
the sledgehammer's coming from. But it's gonna look a little different.
But you know what, I don't feel sorry for No,
nobody feels sorry for somebody getting.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
Year.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Good for you, Yeah, put it in an LLC and
make sure you got a good financial advisor. And yeah,
if you're not, just go to trade, give to charity
and pay your tithing, pay your tithing, pay your tithing.
Blessings fall out of trees and you pay your tithing.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
No doubt, man.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
All right, let's let's get to break.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
We're gonna welcome in Astro's beat rider for the Athletic,
Chandler Rome. He's down in West Palm Beach. He broke
the news on Alex Bregman heading up to the Boston
Red Sox. He'll join us next right here on the
Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
The Sean Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Astro's beat writer at the Athletic and also co host
of the Crush City podcast, Chandler Rome.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Chandler, welcome in, Man, Good to have you on, uh
and great job with this story. And I know it
was a long grind. Let me start here. What took
so long with the Alex Bregman gig. I think a
couple of things.

Speaker 11 (23:25):
I think obviously the market didn't manifest like we or
Bregman thought it would.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
You know, in November, I.

Speaker 11 (23:33):
Think everyone you know, we looked at two deals as
kind of baseline deals for him. It was the Matt
Chatman deal with with San Francisco. And then when Willie
Adamas got his deal from also from San Francisco. You know,
Domas isn't a isn't a third baseman, but still he
was the second best infielder on the market, just longevity
and career wise.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
So you looked at those two.

Speaker 11 (23:55):
Deals and you knew that Bregman wanted to try to
a cli both of those and it became kind of
clear that that wasn't going to happen. And you know,
when when you have Scott Boris as your agent, you know,
Scott tries a lot of times to shatter or match records.
He tries to enhance, you know, one thing with his clients,

(24:18):
whether it's AAV, whether it's total money, whether it's years.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
I mean it.

Speaker 11 (24:23):
I think it came down to, honestly, like what did
Bregman value? Did he value the opt out after the
first year to get back on the free agent market
next year?

Speaker 5 (24:32):
Did he value you know, long.

Speaker 11 (24:34):
Term sustainability because if he stays with the Red Sox
for all three years, they're probably positioned as well as
anyone to really compete for these next three years, albeit
in a brutal, really difficult division. Was he focused on
the AAV solely because clearly the tip of the Red
Sox blew everyone out of the water AVB wise, So

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I think it was a combination of a lot of things.
But why did it take so long, I think because
his market just didn't play out like he presumed it
would in November.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
All right, just for fun, if the Astros would have
offered him forty million dollars a year for three years
and give it him the same deal, would he still
be in Boston? Did he want out? I can't.

Speaker 11 (25:21):
I can't say. I can't speak to that authoritatively. I'm
I think everyone looks at jose Altuve and how Jose
al Tuvey has handled his Astro's career, and like that's
kind of the As a fan, that's who you want,
right You want the guy that tells his agent, you know,
make it work here. I don't want to play anywhere else.
I don't want to go anywhere else. I don't want

(25:43):
to ever put another uniform on. That's not how Alex Bregman,
or quite frankly, George Springer, Carlos Korea, any of these guys.
That's not how they operate. But that doesn't mean that
they didn't want to come back. Like Alex Bregman was
very interesting come back to Houston. It just he he
was also going to get what he believed was his
market value, what he believed was his worth and I

(26:05):
find it funny now everyone's telling me what Bregman's worth
and what he's not worth. You're worth what someone will pay, right,
so he's.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
What you can negotiate. Yes, absolutely, he's worth forty million dollars.

Speaker 11 (26:16):
I mean the Red Sox are going to pay him
forty million dollars a year. He's worked that because someone's
gonna pay him that. So it's not a situation where
he had sworn off Houston and didn't want to come back,
But he wasn't going to come back on a on
a hometown discount on something that he felt was below
his market value.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Astro's beat writer for the Athletic Chandeler Room does a
great job and it's covered this story through and through
joint just here on Sports Talk seven ninety Sean Salisbury show.
Is his base baseball behind him or in front of him?

Speaker 11 (26:44):
You know, I this is a great ballpark for him
with the with the monster and left field. He hits
extremely well there. I'm sure you've seen the stats. Oh yes,
you know through the night how well he hits at Fenway.
You know, I don't think and look, I would never
doubt Alex bregmant on anything but I think his days
of hitting forty homers are probably behind him. I don't

(27:06):
think you're gonna see that power kind of surge back.
But you know, you look at last year and I
wonder whether some of his struggles last year, and struggles
as a relative term, he was fine last year. He
wasn't elite, but he was fine. I wonder if some
of that was pressing in a platform year. He did
a lot of things last year, played discipline wise that

(27:28):
he just doesn't do.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
He swung a lot more than he usually swings.

Speaker 11 (27:33):
Maybe part of that was that the team started so
poorly and they kind of all got a little antsy
and kind of thought they had to do a lot.
But I've described Bregmant this way to a lot of
people during this whole thing. His war, his wins above replacement,
it's all dirty war. It's all like he posts every day.
His defense is elite. He's gonna swing it strikes and

(27:56):
not swing at balls. He's gonna put the ball in play,
he's gonna get on base. That's not the stuff that
is like the sexiest, and it's not the stuff that's
gonna like jump out on Like when you're talking analytics,
when you're talking about evaluating a player, a lot of
it's kind of dirty war that you don't see a lot.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
So he's a mutter. He's a mutter. He showed like
you said, he shows up no matter what. His mother
was a mutter. There. There you go. Chandler Rome, a
beat writer for the Astros and the Athletic, joins us
here on the Sean Salisbury Show. Let's go back to
the beginning of this Chandler, and you know, we're all like,
well he coming back? Is he gonna leave? What kind

(28:34):
of money? And you know, the two hundred plus million
dollars that he wanted up front? Did they was there
a time during this negotiation with Boris and Bregman and
the other teams that they thought, this is this is
not happening. Hell in the world are we not getting
we want? Did they really believe that that's where the
market was going to be for him? I mean I

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think they did.

Speaker 11 (28:55):
I think I think once Matt Chapman got that deal
from the Giants, I think it was jury toward the
end of last season, it was like an nd season extension, right.
Everyone looked at that, and you know, Chapman is obviously
the better defender, just he's a generational defender at third base.
But Bregman is a year younger than him and better
in every available metric. He is a better player than

(29:16):
Matt Chapman by every metric other than defense, and you're younger.
So you kind of looked at that deal and like, well,
if he's getting that, you kind of had to figure
that just inherent market value wise, Bregman was going to
get something more than that. So you know, guys Hire
Scott Boris to get them deals like this.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
Now, look, I.

Speaker 11 (29:38):
I'm not gonna sit here and say this is the
deal that Bregman envisioned when he when he went into
free agency. I think I think he wanted the two
hundred million. You know, he wanted the big long deal,
the seven eight years and the longo. But that just
that never manifested. And now he's gonna be He's tied
with Aaron Judge for the AV for the six highest

(30:01):
AAV and Baseball that's a that's a nice fallback prize.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Chandler, what the Astros point of view, was it a
foregone conclusion today? Legitimately think their offer was was going
to keep him. Was there a time during this when
it was when it was kind of felt stalled to
us that the Astros thought, you know, if we heighten it,
we're gonna get him. Or when the season ended in
free agency began, was it just well, if he comes back, great,
but we're prepared. And then by making the trade with

(30:27):
the Chicago it felt like they were prepared to move on.
But did they Was there a point that they thought
that Bregman was truly going to be an Astro again?
I don't think so.

Speaker 11 (30:38):
Even when they re engaged about three weeks ago, Like
I know, there was some reporting out there that made
it feel like, oh it was fade Accompley, he was
gonna come back to the Astros and that I never
got that feeling from anyone now they were in. Don't
get me wrong. They did re engage. The offer never left.
I don't know if they increased the offer. I don't

(31:01):
know that, But that would go against how Jim Crane
has handled a lot of these free agents in the past.
In the past, it's been here's our offer, we love
you for what you did. Here, here's our best offer.
If you can't get that on the open market, come
back to us and we'll welcome you back. There's never
been much room for flexibility with those offers. There wasn't
with Correa. I don't believe there was with Springer either,

(31:24):
So I don't.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
Know that they up their offer.

Speaker 11 (31:26):
But as you look at what the Tigers offered him,
obviously the Tigers offered him more total money in the
same years, and then the Ashers were never going to
approach a forty million dollar AAV. So I mean, in reality,
they had a third best offer to Bregman, and you know,
I don't I never got the sense from anyone in
the organization that they felt it was like tangible and

(31:49):
real that he could come back.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
I think they were.

Speaker 11 (31:52):
I think they were hopeful that this drug into like
the middle of spring training in them, like maybe end
of February early March, and he.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Just kind of had to make a decision.

Speaker 11 (32:02):
I think that was that was maybe what they were
a more realistic view.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Did the Boris bragmant camp ever panic during this.

Speaker 11 (32:10):
I don't know. They're They're used to this. I mean,
stop Borris clients, Scott Borris clients are used to this.
And you know, I don't know what Scott told Alex privately,
and vice versa. You know, but he's got to have
a scripts kind of rehearsed as to how to tell
these guys to wait and to kind of, you know,
let the market bear out, and you know, all things considered,

(32:33):
I think it was a pretty good a pretty good deal. Again,
not what he wanted when free agency started, but when
you get down to it, I mean, he's gonna make
forty million dollars this year for a team, for a
playoff contending team, and he is going to a bigger market.
He's got the opt out after year one. He can
parlay this into exactly what Matt Chapman did last year.

(32:54):
Matt Chapman got the Pillow deal from the Giants, had
a really nice year and they ex them at the
end of the season. I'm not saying the Red Sox
are going to do that, but he can parlay this
into getting the sort of deal he.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Thought he was going to get this offseason.

Speaker 11 (33:09):
He can parlay this into getting that this coming, this
this next winner.

Speaker 7 (33:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Channel. At the beginning of the show, I said, you know,
through all this and the boris and the patients and stuff,
and people always ask us, well, what's taken so long?
And why hasn't he signed here? This is why. At
forty million a year, this is why. And he wins.
He gets opt outs back to back years. He still
wins in all this. Maybe not like you said that,
he didn't get the six year and long term deal,
but he can still parlay it into six or seven

(33:34):
years somewhere else if it doesn't work in Boston, or
even if it does, which is amazing forty million a year,
all right, if not the Red Sox, where who is closer?

Speaker 11 (33:43):
Yeah, I mean, I think it came down to there
in Detroit. I mean cause I think Detroit had the
next best offer. And I look, I know from I
talked two people around Bregnant, around the Tigers, and the
Tigers were really confident. The Tigers thought that they that
they had put together a really good offer for him.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
And you look, I mean.

Speaker 11 (34:02):
It was that's a tough offer to turn down. And
you wonder if the Tigers do give him the opt
out after the first year, does he does he go there?
Because all the reporting that I saw my colleague Cody Stavenhagen,
who covers the Tigers for us, you know, he said
that they only gave him the opt out after year two.
They wouldn't give him after year one. So maybe if

(34:22):
they give him the opt out after year one, maybe
he's in Detroit, but at the tough ballpark to hit in.
That's the tough ballpark for anyone to hit in, much
less Bregman. He would have gone to Detroit and been
their third baseman. But it would have been you know,
I think it was between the the I think it
was a two horse race between the Red Sox and
the Tigers. Will there ever be you know, I'll let
you go here in the next minute or so. I

(34:43):
know you've got a busy schedule. Was there ever a
point in time where the Red Sox or will they?
Devers does not want to move from third? But Devers
is a isn't isn't an average third basement defensive He's okay,
but Bregman's elite. Will there will Will he ever make
the decision to allow that to happen and go Rake
in another position and let Bregman be where he rightfully

(35:05):
belongs at third base? Is that the plan? Or what
is the plan for Boston?

Speaker 5 (35:09):
You're being really nice, Sean Colin Rafael Devin's average he is?
He is nice? I say average because his bat makes
up for a lot of woes at the third race.
He's not a good defensive player. Let's put it that.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Way, right right.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
Everything's been hypothetical to this point.

Speaker 11 (35:24):
When when Alex Coral was talking about Bregmant at the
Winter meetings, he talked about him as a potential gold
Gloves second baseman.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
That was all in theory.

Speaker 11 (35:31):
Now that they are like pens to paper and Bregmant
is coming, uh, maybe.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
Those conversations change.

Speaker 7 (35:37):
You know.

Speaker 11 (35:38):
My sense right now is that he will start at
second base. But they have some different things they can
do with their roster, like do they do they hold
on to Masataka Yoshida or do they they try to
trade him.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
If they trade Yoshida.

Speaker 11 (35:51):
Then you can da Traffi Devers and put Bregmant at
third base, and they have a couple middle infield prospects
that they're excited about. I'm up and play second. I think, personally,
I'm not going to tell him how to run their team.
But I think if you have the best third baseman
defensive third basement in baseball on your roster, I think
he's playing at third base. But right, but but Devers,

(36:15):
Devers is the face of the franchise, right, three hundred
and thirty million dollars.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
He's that's gonna take. It's gonna take a lot of
tacked from alex Cor.

Speaker 11 (36:23):
That's gonna be a tough managerial job for alex Cor
to kind of figure out how to do this. And
I'm sure that they have. I'm sure that they talked
to Devers. I'm sure Devers did not find out about
this last night. I'm sure he knew that this was
There was an inkling that this was coming. So I'll
be interesting to see how that plays out.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
But if I were them, my playing at third base, Yeah,
when when you can rake like he can, I guess
you get a little say in it and you want
that bat happy in the Red Sox lineup. But they
become a much more elite defensive team with Bregman at third,
no doubt. I'll let you go on. This are the
how big a blow? At least going into this, you've
seen this, assuming pitching gets healthy, are the Astros better?

(37:02):
They Nobody can tell me they're better without Tucker and
Bregman going into spring training? Can they than they were
last year? No?

Speaker 11 (37:09):
No, this is a This is a team that has
weakened significantly and then and I don't think I think
two things can be true. I think they are significantly
weaker than they have been, but I still think this
team has the pieces to contend and win the American
League West. I think I still think the projections show
that you've seen a lot of the projections lately that

(37:31):
they've all been without Bregnant. And this is like a
team that's eighty five eighty seven wins, and I mean
they won eighty eight games last year and won the division.
So you can't count on Seattle collapsing. You can't count
on the Rangers falling on their face like they did
last year. So it's gonna be a tight race and
it's gonna be a more stressful season. But that's just

(37:52):
kind of how baseball works. I mean, the Astros have
spoiled a lot of people by making the sport look
really easy throughout this Golden era, and it's just not
that way.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
That's not usually how this works.

Speaker 11 (38:03):
So welcome to kind of this is normal, Like you
have a normal baseball This is gonna be normal. You
can have a normal baseball season. But yeah, you you've
lost your two you lost your two best players, and
Tucker and Bregman two of your best players and talker
and Bregman this this off season, there's no there's no
way you can say that this.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
Team is not weaker. Absolutely, it's a little organized chaos
in the twenty twenty five season. Channel great stuff, man
and enjoy spring training. And we loved having you on.
And you did a hell of a job and always
do covering this in this Bregman story, and good job
on breaking it and we'll see how the uh, how
the Astros respond without their corner outfielder and corner infielder.
Appreciate your time, Chandler, Thanks buddy, all right, Thanks Sean,

(38:41):
thank you. That's Chandler Roam of the Athletic. He's a
beat writer for the Astros and covers it well. And
one of my favorite things about him, he's a deep
he'll he'll he'll deep dive and dig into it and
I love that about him. Great stuff and uh, Bregman's
turn up, squeeze and worked did it. Yeah, it's really boris,
but they've learned and how to all.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Squeeze to turn up to go for that man. At
the end of the day, it's a business. You got
your bag and now he's with your boss and.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
I'm still sitting here right now. Yeah, Raphael Devers. And
it was kind. I said, he's a mid third baseman.
Pick you up a first basement's man, Yeah, catch the baseball. Yeah,
and then we'll mix you in at d H once
in a while. Dude, you're gonna be, as a matter
of fact, fun. It'll allow you to focus on swinging
the baseball that more. Put that big chaw in that
he's always got in and let it, let it, let

(39:26):
it really do a realm Yeah, real third baseman who
plays defense, play third base, and you go do what
makes you a top ten hitter in the league. Yeah
go Rake, Yeah, and get out of the way at
third base and let somebody else who could handle that
play it. And in that ballpark, a lot of balls
get hit there because some of them be slow rollers
because people try to pull everything. But and he does,

(39:47):
Rake and Fenway gonna be an interesting So lost, the
Astros lost another really good player, but the red Socks
game one that I'm not that's all right. He got
the bag, man, he did, And that's that's why you
hang out for just so you go to do. That's
why you wait that long.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
We got a Boston fan on hold, lives here for
a while, he's happy. We'll talk to him next. Also,
continue to take your reaction. Alex Bregman is out with
the Red Sox seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
That's next.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show and his name is
sure Sean really on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Bob, we really appreciate you holding see that you're a
Boston fan. How do you feeling this morning?

Speaker 7 (40:29):
I'm not happy. It's I mean, I think back of
all the years that Red Sox have made some questionable
decisions when it comes to free agency, and even some
of the trades that made, uh, it never seems to
go anywhere. Well, maybe fifteen years ago we had the
Kyle Crawford deal, which was not productive at all. They've

(40:53):
done things like Dice came much as other famous blunders.
When you look at the productiveness of what they've done,
you know they've had some success. You know, they finally
broke the curse in two thousand and four and all
of that history behind it. But being a lifelong fan,

(41:17):
I guess I don't appreciate the whole free agency thing.
Maybe that's what's prejudicing this whole feeling that I have.
But you know, I look at the old school before
they had free agency. Give you a clue how old
am I saw my first game at Fenway Park in
nineteen fifty nine. I saw Ted Williams play in his

(41:39):
waning times. But I was not very old. My grandfather
took me. But the whole game and everything was different
back then. Gentlemen were ties that you know, they smoked
cigars in the stands. Completely different than it is now.
But you know, the spoiled millionaires getting you know, forty million.

(42:04):
Really it's okay. But I just think that the Red
Sox could have done better, maybe explore, and that they
have some great prospects lined up, you know, and when
you bring in a free agent like Bregman, you lose
that opportunity to play those guys and let them prove,
and then they they I want to call it over

(42:28):
for mint. In the minors, you know, great players come
from where they develop them in their farm system. When
they finally get a break, they prove themselves. You know,
you've got Duran Duran and Tristan Cossas as examples of
what can happen and over the years, all of the
folks that have come up from the farm that end

(42:50):
up being superstars ultimately get a break at some point,
and you know, to kind of block that with what
I can throw away to forty million.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
Hey, Bob, let me let me ask you. I'm a
lifelong Socks fan as well. I mean, I love the
astros now work here. But I grew up in a
family that was diehard Socks fan, so I've been forever.
So is the man. We got about him thirty seconds.
But is the Is the forty million the problem? You're
getting an elite defender and a guy who's been in
big moments and hits great and Fenway Park. What is it?
The forty million? The opt outs? What's your biggest problem

(43:23):
with this deal?

Speaker 7 (43:26):
I think they could have spent the money better on
getting a couple of letting a couple of the good
prospects come up, or you know, I just don't see
bumping Devers over for that. I mean, yeah, Devers is
not the defender that Bregman is, for sure.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
I get it, fair enough, Bob, great stuff man, Good
luck to those Socks Man, appreciate it, and hope for
Red Sox fans. It works out great and Bregman and
for Astros fans, you're gonna wish him well. But ye,
it's a bummer to lose a guy. But Paradus is
going to have an opportunity to rake and do his
thing here.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Yeah, yeah, he sure is. It's getting the seven o'clock hour.
Seven one three is the number to join Ashros fans.
How you feeling. Alex Bregman is now Boston Red Sox.
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Speaker 5 (44:57):
I think we need to come up with awards this
year that at the end of the year, we will
we give out awards on our show. You mean, like
dumb Ass of the Year. Oh yeah, whatever we want.
We come up with about like a ten category. Yeah,
and U right over the year, I got a couple. Yeah,
well again, but like the you know, like I mean,

(45:17):
we'll hold off on the what I was about to say, Yeah,
you know, you never know what kind of hold off
it'll be. But I think that maybe we should have
some names. Yes, yeah, don't you think we know you
think we're we're down like without like opp yeah, yeah,
you know me, you know me.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Yeah, I wish I could say it. I did say
it on air one time. Yeah, we had it was
the calmest dump of all time. But I don't think
you can say that, dude.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
But are you doing, Bryan hit the dump button? Yeah,
So I think next year went ahead to the new year,
we'll give awards.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
The awards sounds good to me. Hey, real quick before we
get back out to the phone lines. Alex Bragg in
his career at Fenway Park three seventy five batting average,
seven bombs, seven fifty, slugging a ops of twelve forty.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
Well, if you can turn that if you can turn
that into forty eighty one games of it playing at home,
stop that it'll be we'll be looking at an MVP
type season. And Bob, who just called, we'll be happy
with the deal in Fenway Pac.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Love Bob, Bob Man, Poor Bob, he's upset. It's all right,
seven one three, sure has Let's talk to Corey.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
What's up Corey?

Speaker 6 (46:39):
Good morning, gentlemen. Well maybe not such a good morning,
but uh look you couldn't really hear it in Chandler's voice,
but you could tell it hurt man. He's a Jellis
Hue Gray at himself, so you know you know it
hurt him. But we're talking about taxes a little while ago.
I did the math a while back. Massachusetts has a
five percent flat and anything over a million is an

(47:02):
additional four percent. So he's gonna be paying nine percent
income tax. You know, said's going to be the same
regardless of where you're at. But nine percent state tax.
And if you play for the Astros of the Rangers,
you you have a tax state tax free for like
one hundred and two games. I think it could be
possibly one hundred and six, dependent on whether you playing

(47:25):
in Miami that year, but playing in any other state
like Minnesota, Minnesota, Michigan, Massachusetts, you're paying state tax on
one hundred and forty two, possibly one hundred and forty
six games, showing you you know, you played ball all
over the country, so you know you, you know, you

(47:46):
and your account know how the jock tax works. So
you may want to uh, if you can't explain that
to the to the rest of.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
The crowd, Yeah, I've done that. It's not where you live,
it's where you play. That's exactly right. Did that working
tax and talked about it on here. You get you
go play a football game on Sunday in Philadelphia, you're
getting taxed for the days you're there. There's no doubt
whatever the percentage and deep dive, but yeah, you're exactly
right in the state tax, right, federal tax, he's going
to get hit. You're you know, you're in a federal
tax bracket no matter what what team you're playing on

(48:14):
any city, it's the state tax and all the other
stuff that goes with it. At hammer and he just
did a great job of pointing out what you're going
to face in Massachusetts when you get to a certain
level and a threshold of cash and money and and
he's going to face both. Yeah, and so that's that's
a that's a healthy that's a healthy state tax. It's
gonna be especially when you used to coming you think
nine percent of his money nine percent of his money

(48:36):
is that that's a little perspective there, you start to
think about that. So that's you're getting hammered. And then
he's going to go on the road after a certain
amount of games, and he's going to get taxed when
they play Philly, he's going to get taxed. When they're playing,
you know, to Toronto, he's going to get taxed on
their head. I mean it just that's that's the way
it works. The jock tax is what you call it,
but I just called it the game tax. You know,
you go play and then they'd get you. So and

(48:57):
they're there usually a day or two longer. Why because
that I didn't we we did it right, go in
one day and out the next. So you're leaving, you're
only spending twenty four hours there at the most. In baseball,
they're spending seventy two hours there and in the case
sometimes longer. Right, Yeah, land a day off and then
you got a three or if you've got a four
gamer and you're playing, you're getting hit with the tax man.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
That's the great I don't think people understand that you
are people because we've had callers before that will say, oh, the.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
States are milking that too, because they know they can't.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
Yeah, oh he's he's playing for the Philadelphia Phillies. He's
only getting taxed by Philly and by the state. He's
getting taxed by his state. Anything attack. Then when you
go into another state, if your game check comes out
what state you're playing in.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
I can tell you that's a fact because people, Yeah,
it sucked to look at Yeah, when you're the player.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Yeah, So people don't really understand how that works. Obviously.
You know you're here to let let people know because
you did it in your nfler.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
Amount of days. If you go do it, if you
go make a gas and oil sale, yeah, in another
you know, oil and gas. You going and let's say
you go to North Dakota, right South Dakotin makes sense
and a few times, yeah, and you take your deal.
You're not getting you're not getting hit for their tax
No athlete goes in there and plays in Pittsburgh. There Philly,
you're getting hit with another tax that doesn't supersede the

(50:15):
one you already getting hit in your own state. On
your state it does say, well, let's minus that one
from the nine percent they're getting hit. No, no, no, no,
you're It's called the double dip, brother, You're getting hit
from both right and while while it's relative to the
length your there, right, but still it's still money being
taken out of your check among all the other things

(50:37):
that they're yanking out of your check, right, crazy man?

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Yeah, these state taxes, these these states are racketing in
especially California. Legalized it's like Anthony rendoon't stealing money from
the Angels.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
And it's not even legalized theft. It feels like illegal thefts. Okay,
what are you taking your money?

Speaker 7 (50:53):
Like?

Speaker 5 (50:54):
Yeah, there's no doubt, man, David, what's going on this morning?

Speaker 12 (50:58):
Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 7 (51:00):
I was doing well.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
Hey, two quick things.

Speaker 12 (51:02):
I saw this last night, and I'm assuming it's accurate.
Didn't Alex originally get drafted by Boston or what it's worth?
Not much, I guess prior to going to LSU.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
Yes, And I think I want to say he broke
his hand in high school and that hurt his something,
hurt his draft stocks, something along those lines.

Speaker 12 (51:21):
Okay, well that makes a little more sense than too,
but whatever.

Speaker 7 (51:23):
I just thought that was kind of a unique deal.

Speaker 12 (51:26):
But secondly, the opt out clause, I don't know. I
haven't heard a whole lot of details about that. I
don't know if they're out there yet, but I don't
if it's just a player opt out after every year. Hypothetically,
I can't see any reason why the guy would opt
out out of forty million a year.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
I don't know where he would think.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
You know, if you're gonna go out and get more,
even if you have.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
A superstar, David, I'm his numbers the way they are. Yeah, David,
I'm with you. I've said the same thing. First of all,
if I'm a general manager, I don't when I'm paying
a guy forty million bucks a year for three years,
he doesn't get the opt out or no trade clause.
You don't get to hold my franchise hostage and then go,
I'm not your bridge to go get money somewhere else.
If that's the deal breaker, let it be. I stand on.

(52:10):
I'm firm with Jim Crane on this. He ain't giving
you an opt out. I'm not either. I don't think
there's any player worth it. Sorry, I just don't. So
you go have a great season, I'll tell you. And
you say, well, he probably won't leave, but think about this, David,
and maybe he won't. But he just said. Let's just
say he goes and plays like he did in twenty nineteen.
Let's say he wins the MVP. Somebody will offer him
six years for thirty five to forty million a year.

(52:33):
That's when he leaves. That that's when he would go.
And it is the player opt out, it's not the team.
But he gets to know the team can do their thing,
can he can opt out of it, because that's one
hundred and twenty million dollars a guarantee if he stays,
if he gets to opt out, he can go be
the MVP. And if he feels somebody Boris says, dude,
we can get forty million a year now for six years,
he'll leave. That's what this is for the opt outs,

(52:56):
for you to that the opt outs for you to
go kick ass and then bail on the team that
paid you the money that nobody else would pay you.
Now do that, man, it's stupid. I don't know why
anybody do Listen, no offense to Bregman. He's a out
of a player. I don't think he's the player. I
ain't given a guy a chance to use me as
his bridge to another superstar contract after I'm the one

(53:17):
who paid him more than anybody would when he wasn't
hitting like a superstar. Does that make sense?

Speaker 6 (53:23):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (53:23):
Absolutely, I'm with you, brother, I'm with it. Yeah. I
hate it. The opt out bugs me and I'll never
do it. Appreciate you, David, Thanks great stuff, right, but
at forty million a year, you wouldn't bail if you
had a good season, you think, man, I like it,
I like the players, I like the city. You're not
gonna be. The only way you'd leave is if you
hate the manager or the city and you guys suck

(53:43):
or they want you out and it's just not kind.
You go and get two twenty. You want to stay.
If hit two twenty, gain nobody else gonna give you.
But if they say, well, we're gonna pay the guaranteed
money and get but they're not gonna do it. They're
going to keep him there for the three years. Is
the only other way. Brian is if he's an MVP guy. Yeah,
and Boris says, we're opted yeah, Dallas, because I could

(54:04):
damn well back and damn will tell you there's forty
five to fifty for six now waiting on you. And
it's in Detroit, right.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Any crazy that both the final two teams from what
we heard from Chanla aj Hinch in Detroit, Alex Cora.

Speaker 5 (54:17):
And at the beginning when they when they went he
said they're not interesting, said that's so odd. Yeah, because
it took the familiarity. So it was, and then they
jump back in.

Speaker 7 (54:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
So the craziest thing throughout this whole thing, or not
the craziest, but one of the crazy things. Alex Cora
was vocal about wanting Bregman, so was aj Hinch, but
neither front office was reportedly interested. And then look at
Boston forty a year now, they jump.

Speaker 5 (54:39):
Right back in. How's that for interest with opt out
and then willing to give him an opt out after
the first two years. In both years, it's it's player
Empowerment's real, dude. Yeah, man, there's no doubt breg and
Boris got he didn't get exactly what he wanted, but
his club he got it. He got exactly what you wanted.
If you were looking for something less than a six
year deal, I can tell you that.

Speaker 9 (54:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
Bregman was originally draft out of high school by the
Red Sox in twenty twelve and the twenty ninth round
he said no, went to LSU and he was the
national Freshman of the Year in twenty thirteen. He also
won the Brooks Wallace Award that was the best collegiate shortstop.
So he made the right decision then became the number
two overall pick for the Houston Astros.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
You sure did, buddy, And this is a pretty good
decision too, A buck twenty for three and all guaranteed
with opt outs. He's still won. Yeah, after all this time,
he still got his You know what another good decision is, Yeah,
to go eat and the barbecue spot and Jbar Barbecue
is our place, Brian jar great to welcome him in. Man,
Can do we do it? Can we call him Jabar?

(55:36):
And we got include? We got include the M. I
know I'm the same, but when you and I are talking, Hey, man,
I had him Jbar right, that's our nickname. Yeah, but
Jaybar M's off the charts. And I could tell you, Brian.
We went over there and I'd never seen it before neither.
You know, they say location, location, location, but I can
tell you this food food, food customer service is stupid good. Yeah.

(55:56):
I'm so grateful their partner with us now. Yeah, and
then we get to sit here talk about it and
eat about it too. It is all the time, Sean.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
It's literally two blocks from a minute May Park, two
blocks from Toyota Center. You want a pregame spot before
your games, jbarm is where you go. You're exactly right.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
You can indoor outdoor pat when he gets like spring,
it's gonna be awesome. Sit out there and they're gonna
have they have events, you know, like painting events where
they're bringing great artists. They're gonna have obviously pre and
post game stuff with music popping. And then you walk
in and it's spacious. But BOUTI a cozy? Does that
make sense? And the food, Ryan, we went to that line.
It's like and they put on that plate and melted

(56:33):
in your mouth. I'm talking about you walk through the
menu and you can order anything. You'll come back and
say that's the only barbecue place I got to go.
And I love the location like you're saying, it's I
think you and I we've found a good place for
a party. Oh you think. Yeah, they've also got to
go for it.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Good brunch menu Saturday and Sunday starting at eleven am
running to three pm. So you want some mimosas and
some damn good breakfast food. Jbarm Barbecues got that as well.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
And they've got their customer service and the way they
treated us, Yeah, they'll treat everybody like that as well.
And you never know, you might see our guy Joe
a spot of walking in there in a pair of
sweats and get it. Because Joe's a regular there. We
talked about. He frigging loves it and that's his place.
And if you like a family feel with food that's
off the charts, that's it. That's it. And they grind
over there. Johnny Manziel was there a couple of nights ago.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
Good decision ye. Jmicher Adams yep. Jbarn Barbecue dot com.
It's two two zero one Leland Street, right by minute
May Park. Give me that right by toyo to that
website again. Jbar m Barbier jbarmbbq dot com.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
You know how you spelled jbar with a J and
a B, A an A and and R. He's pretty simple,
easy one to remember. Awesome, best barbecue in the city
and in the state. You gotta get over there. It's
Jbarn Barbecue. Love it. Who's Who's Sean? He's the yse
eternal judge who sits on high Here's the final say
on all disputes.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
Ninety All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 2 (58:01):
The Salisbury's takeouts, Salsbury takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
Time for the steak out Here on the Seawn Salisbury Show,
Sean Brown and Triple Rockets take down the suns Men.
Thompson had himself a triple double. Alex Bregman, He's gonna
be signing with the Boston Red Sox for three years,
one hundred and twenty million dollars seven one three, two,
one two five seven ninety some fedway.

Speaker 5 (58:25):
Frank, some chowda, some clam chatta. How's the Boston tea potty? Yeah?
Go go there, Hey, here the here the duck boats
all kill them? Here the duck boats. Bregman's at the
plate forty million years crazy.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
You know that word.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
Bostonians are great cussers. Oh yeah, good, good emphasis on
the F word. Oh man, oh yeah. When I because
when I was at ESPN, a lot of my buddies
are from Boston production guys, and like Steve Levy, those guys,
and when you had a good F bomb group going yeah,
oh it really is could do it here and they
do it and and there's that there's that one phrase

(59:03):
when you can't you can't say it's that the initial cs.
The guys say, you know, you, you know, is it
coffee or is it coffee? Coffee? It's like, you know,
they don't say blank sucker, they say oh sucker, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's a No, I can't say no, why no, no, No,

(59:24):
it's just us here. Why do you want to put
it in? Jeffardy, I confess he did it. If I
go down, you're going with me.

Speaker 7 (59:32):
Do it?

Speaker 5 (59:33):
But oh he's a sucker? What a sucker? Yeah no,
it's there's no e r ending on that. It's h
h yeah, it's an ah ah and man, check that out.
We got to Brian's on hold. Brian on the as
a co host, but we're gonna start with Ken, you
want to do that or you want to go to
one of the Brians Kim Palm, who the Kim Palm rankings?

(59:53):
You ever heard of those? Then you ain't playing attention
to basketball.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
What happened is I'm about to say, come on, Brian,
damn Ken, what's happening?

Speaker 13 (01:00:02):
Hey, Sean?

Speaker 14 (01:00:04):
You mentioned with Anthony Rendon's contract being like legalized the theft,
and you know, my feeling as an Angels fan is
simply that it's not you getting injured, it's you not
wanting to get back on the field. And I wanted
to hear your opinion as a as a former athlete.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Is it about injuries or is it about the willingness
to be there?

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
It's a great point, Ken. Don't we all say, man,
I want to I want to do great things. I
want to be great. Right, it's the what's the old saying?
It's the the will to be great, you know, to
want to be great. It's not we all want to win?
Are you? Are you willing to go through the struggle
to get there? Everybody? If I ask anybody, hell yeah,
I want to win? Well, are you making the sacrifices

(01:00:45):
that it takes to win and sustain it. With Rendon,
i'd listen. I was a fan of his when he's
in Washington. I know he's a rice guy and was
a hell of a player here the ship sailed the guys.
I think the guy's done. He is done, And I
don't mean it's nothing personal. I don't know Anthony Rendon.

Speaker 7 (01:00:59):
I know this.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
He had his run where in a posty where heat.
That's why he got paid by the Angels. The guy
was a monster. But the fact of the matter is
when I say legalized theft, I I don't feel since
he's been in Anaheim. And I could be completely wrong,
but in what he was saying, I feel like Anthony
Rendon does not love baseball anymore or love playing, you know.

(01:01:22):
And that's in first off, I don't get the I
don't know. And you could say, well, he was rehabing.
You knew before this, How in the world are you
waiting this long? Yeah, you knew in November. Saw you
tweeted it saying why why now, what's the delay? And
then the day the pitchers and catchers are reporting, now
you tell me you're getting surgery and you're basically out
for the year. He's done. What are you gonna get
out of him the rest of his career? You're not
gonna get anything. He's even said it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
Baseball is just kind of a It's like we talked
about the Super Bowl buzz. Oh by the way, there's
a Super Bowl game for Anthony Rendone. He's like, oh,
by the way, I got I got.

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
This contracts in this contract for different reasons, is as
bad as Deshaun Watson's. Oh yeah, for different reasons. The
quarterbacks a little more, you know, with the hype, the
all the hyperbolic talk and all the you know, the
pomp and circumstances goes. And I'm not comparing Rendoing with
the off the field stuff then at all. I'm talk
about just as far as injuries and production and once

(01:02:15):
you got paid and the guaranteed money it it. It's
becoming the worst base but more worse than pull holes.
His least Pools was played. At least he was on
the field right. He wasn't. He just was right. So
for me, I hate to say it because it's local,
but you know what, we're not going to because he's local.
I'm not going to guard against criticizing the guy. And
I understand injuries happened, but the call is exactly right.

(01:02:38):
Yeah the injury, you pull a hamstring? Are you putting
the time in to get back on the field, And
how in the world do you wake this? I just
don't get it. Well. I had somebody on Twitter saying
maybe he was rehabbing. I don't think the guy was
being me. Was he was right? Maybe he was rehabbing
and thought that he could overcome this. No, no, no,
you he would have known in that situation with it's
the hip, right, yeah, And anybody that you know that

(01:03:01):
goes through hips. I know the people I've been around
his football guys. It doesn't take two days before training
camp to know this hip paint working, you'll know. And doctors.
If you're constantly going to a doctor on your rehab
and he says, dude, we're not making progress. Better to
get surgery. Yeah now yeh. It felt like I'm going
to wait get the surgery. I'm still going to get paid.
It's going to be a country club year. That's how
I feel right now. And when he was at his best,

(01:03:23):
I thought he was one of the tough guys in
the league. And I mean he would challenge you and
he'd be in your face and he was probably productive.
It just feels to me like he doesn't have a
passion for playing anymore. He doesn't. And if you're hurt
or banged up and you don't have a passion to
get back on the field, you won't get back on
the field. You will never get back on the fe
And here's the problem, being okay with it, Yeah, being complacent,

(01:03:47):
being okay with it. So I don't know him personally,
that's just from my perspective, but I can tell you this.
The contract is brutal. Dude, He's making thirty eight point
five this year. It's the greatest gig in the world
if you can get it. But the truth is, there's
got to be a part of the says I got
to go in the front door and pick this check up. Yeah,
I hope right, because the rendome we all knew in

(01:04:08):
Washington and kicking ass as a major leaguer and winning
World Series was a different cat than we see in Anaheim. Yeah, injuries,
it ain't like he said a like what I'm saying, Like,
if it's this injury, that's how quickly you get back? Yeah,
how does a guy blow out an achilles and it's
playing a year later because he want you good medicine
and good doctor's treatment. But the commissions, that's exactly right. Listen,

(01:04:31):
it's crazy. Listen to this injury list for him. This
starts in twenty twenty one, so not counting the COVID season.
This is what the Angels for Anthony Rendon Groin. These
are all the injuries that have kept him out at
some point throughout the years. Groin, growing, knee, knee, hamstring.
That was all in twenty twenty one. Do you give

(01:04:52):
me three soft tissues out of five already that was
through that those were all just in twenty twenty one.
Then you got the wrist, the wrist, the groin, the wrist,
the shin, the hamstring, the back in an oblique and
now a hip. Was this a hypochondriac? Then, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
Three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,
thirteen different injuries listing.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
He's become the Joe l embiid and Anthony Davis obay,
he ass he has. It's it's so hard to say
because I was a huge I was and when he
made the deal to the to Anaheim, You're thinking, Okay,
they're going to get a productive player, and at the
time it was supposed to be him, Trout and Otani. Correct,
he didn't he get there. He got there in twenty twenty, right,

(01:05:40):
and Otani hadn't left it. Last year was Otani's first
year with the Dodgers, Correct, Yeah, there's the second year
first year, right. I thought it was his first year.
It was his first year with the Dodgers, right, Yeah,
I remember running yours together. I thought it was his
first year last year. Unless we're losing our mind, I
think it was two be years backs. Regardless, it was
post twenty twenty, right, So they were all three on
the same team, and you thought, man, they're adding another

(01:06:01):
bat to that lineup. And he has done nothing since
he's been there, the injuries and stuff. I to me,
it's it just you went to do how many times
are you gonna mention a groin injury? There's like four
of them. I mean, come on, man, it just it
reeks of how badly the first year was last year
for show. There you go for a second, I'm thinking, yeah,

(01:06:22):
shows all gambled everything. It was in one year twenty seventeen, right, No,
but I've done when he got the Dodge. I'm taking
his time flowing somebody in this second year. No, last
year was his first year and they didn't won a
World Series, right, So with that, they had those guys
on there, and you think this could be a pretty
good trout Rendon show head. That's a good two three
four or three four five, however you want to do it.

(01:06:43):
But it would have been two three four right, you'd think,
I'll be damned, we can't get the guy on the field.
So it feels to me like Anthony Rendon that that
he's this is his golden parachute. Yeah, he's done without production,
he's done. Yeah, agreed, he's done. Seven one three. I
don't think you're going to see him taking an the
swing at the plate for the Angels, No, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
I don't think you're gonna see him swing maybe ever again. Honestly,
he's got two more years on a contract this year,
next year. Make a million year, yeah, make a thirty
eight point five.

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
Good to be him, It is good to be him.
It makes makes contract see okay, that just makes it
look fine.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
Seven one three, two two five seven ninety Brian, Brian
will get out to you guys next continue to talk
about Alex Bregman now headed to the Boston Red Sox.

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
That's next, The Shawn.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Salisbury Show continued, Brian and Parreland.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
You're up first. What's up? Brian? Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 15 (01:07:39):
Sean.

Speaker 16 (01:07:40):
Congrats, you guys got got the big one of the
big fishes you were looking for there at the UH
at the Socks.

Speaker 5 (01:07:46):
We'll tell Brian will take him, brother, you know that
I'll take him anyway I can get him.

Speaker 16 (01:07:54):
Congrats to Abe. I mean, first of all for the
Keustonians who are pissed off. But oh, Jim Cree is
cheap and all that, and we could have done this deal,
and no, you couldn't, not if you want to be
viable for the next five to seven years. Because even
after this, if you signed Bregman, that stunts cam Smith's growth,
then you got to figure out what to do with

(01:08:14):
Bryce Matthews if he's gonna be part of your future.
You know you're gonna have a decision to make on
Jeremy Paine. You coming up after this year, you're gonna
have to make a serious decision on Hunter Brown and
if you're gonna try and lock him up early long
term before he's really able to get out and dive
into the huge free agent waters in the next couple

(01:08:34):
of years.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
You'll probably have to restructure.

Speaker 16 (01:08:36):
Jordan's deal because he gave you a team friendly deal
when you bought out his arbitration. You're gonna have to
deal with Brian and Bray You, plus you're gonna have
to decide what you want to do with Ropert Beldez
so to remain competitive.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
You really couldn't make this deal.

Speaker 16 (01:08:51):
And I loved the piece with Chandler because, yeah, it
didn't really sound like Bregman was there was a realistic
chance of him coming back.

Speaker 5 (01:08:58):
And look, we all want them, we all want them back.
Just the intangibles he provides.

Speaker 16 (01:09:03):
He was that last really kind of vestage from the
from the title runs. You know, he's a gamer. The
guy gives you everything he has. I mean, he held
his elbow together last year with duct tape and bubblegum,
just trying to grit through it to get you to
where he was. But I mean, if you look at
what he passed up with Detroit, it proves it wasn't

(01:09:25):
necessarily about the years. It was about the AAV and hey,
Boston was willing to do it and go get it.
So you know, for the people who say, oh, Jim
Crane is cheap and he's not willing to spend the
money and all of that, that's then you clearly don't
know baseball and you don't understand what's going on and
what the Ashys have to deal with coming up in
the future. But I do have a question, Sean, you

(01:09:47):
know the media market better than anybody up in Boston
having dealt with that area.

Speaker 15 (01:09:53):
Is this You know he got brewed.

Speaker 16 (01:09:55):
Mercilessly for years and years and years, scream cheater and
all that, and then fair enough he was part of
that team all that does that now just we sweeped
out away and we speak nothing more of it because
he's our own.

Speaker 7 (01:10:07):
Guy, I know.

Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
So he's no longer a cheater.

Speaker 16 (01:10:09):
Yeah you forget, We'll forget right, you damn sure they
because I know Corre still gets it some when he
goes otherwheres, other other places, even with Minnesota. And I
went up to a Twins game a couple of years ago,
and when they initially gave the initial starting lineups, I
brewed Kara, and people in Minnesota looked at.

Speaker 5 (01:10:30):
Me like, what the hell was like?

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
What is that not a thing now?

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
Is he no longer a cheater or what of that? Yeah, yeah, Brian,
I'll answer you could. We'll let you go, but I'll
hesitate for a second so you could hear it on
your radio. Thanks for the call. You make great point
about all of it, very solid about the bodies that
got to keep and uh they're going to try to keep.
And you know, and mister Crane, going by what he does,
he stands firm with the no opt outs and the

(01:10:55):
rest of it. And the truth is, for forty million bucks,
we'd all done the same thing Bregman did. We would
have all left. It doesn't you can save that. You're
a Ustonian through and through. Listen, I'm from San Diego
and I love Texas and the rest of it too.
But I got news for you. For forty million, that's said,
that's fourteen million more than the other team was willing
than this city was willing to offer. And I understand

(01:11:16):
that their approach to here. The bottom line is we
can bitch and complain. Every single one of us would
have left for one hundred and twenty million of guaranteed
money with opt outs at the end of one we
could leave. You're not spending fifteen years there if you
don't want to, Yes, we'd have left. On the other
side of Brian, I can tell you what's gonna happen.
Oh yeah, he's no longer a cheater if he's productive
in Boston. That's the way we wait with create a

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productive in Minnesota. That's approached me. But I'll tell you what, Brian,
And knowing that media like I do, having not only
worked up in that area for a dozen years, but
knowing a bunch of friends in Boston hav't actually done
shows in Boston. He struggles, he will get booed and
the cheated they will. They will echo it all over
the Monster and off the pesky poll at Alex Bregman.

(01:11:59):
And then the second he gets hot, they won't mention it.
I mean, you'll get it, they just won't. And so
you know it wasn't good for them then, but it's
good for him now because they've got a good player.
That's the way it is a society. But the Red Sox,
if he starts slow, they are going to crush him.
They're not going to kick him out, but they are
going to crush him. And they're gonna do it on purpose.
They're going to test just how mentally tough Alex Bregmant is.

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And we've seen here how mentally tough he is. I'm
just telling you it's different. He's going to something. It's
one thing to go there for six games a year
or three games a year, right, whatever it is, going
for one home series for one visiting series. Now, don't
don't hit two twenty the first two months of the season,
and he very well may. He's just gonna have to
say really not say much, find a way to get production.

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But they're also smart fans there. They know what his
they'll know his background and they'll be a little patient.
But yeah, the cheating talk, he's a Boston red side.
You don't hear about Korra, No, you could because then
they wanted him back. Yeah. So yeah, once you're there,
it's like anything.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Oh part of me.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
The rest is we forgive easy when they're a part
of our stuff, you know, when they when they're under
your roof, and they will for Bregman as well. Yeah,
but he's gonna get booed if there is no question.
Yeah there there there is no question. He's going to
go through a standing. I'm talking about even if it's
ten games where he struggles. Dude, they've boomed devers before, right,
and he's there and he's not on the face. He's
their best player and not close. Yeah, okay, so Bregman

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he's not gonna be above it. And then that's the
boot and the in the twenty seventeen will jump together
if he struggles. But when he's ranking we got and
we stole him for forty million, you know, it'll be
all that. And then a hardcore guy sitting in a
pub drinking drink, drinking a dropping f bombs and drinking
a cold a pint will be all over. But they'll
also if there's no excuses. Look how Philadelphia's fall in

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love with Harper. He struggled at times early in there,
both big time, both got booed and they'd never made
an excuse stas and now they're they're the Kings. And
it'll be the same for Bregman in Boston if, in fact,
he plays like he did in NY nineteen and doesn't
make excuses along the way. I've never heard him to
be an excuse maker. Now he's not, so there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
He's not seven one three seven ninety got the phone lines,
Jammed Doub will continue to take your calls and your
reactions well, Alex Bregman.

Speaker 5 (01:14:08):
Moving on to the Boston Red Sox next.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Let the celebration start, war Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
They say second base for the Red Sox, but uh
Devers probably wants to let Bregnan play third if he'd
be wise. If you want to play a little bit
better defense, you put the better defender at third. But
you know, well, I guess you'll have to approve that
with thro field defers. Let's get out the phone lines. Brian, Brian,
welcome in, man, what's on your mind?

Speaker 13 (01:14:40):
Good morning, Sean. So you guys got me to think
in this morning. Kind of why I called in in
a week or two ago. I was listening in to
you and and and Brian, and you guys walked through
the mass, and I was sitting there on on on on,
you know, on, you know, just listening to every word. Right,

(01:15:00):
you guys walked through the math, and y'all were like,
at best twenty six twenty seventy year, y'all justified it
with every possible reasonable stat.

Speaker 5 (01:15:10):
You guys had, and and it was right and then
some knucklehead.

Speaker 13 (01:15:15):
Comes along and throws the evaluation just out the window.
And then here comes forty and you know it, Just
in any other industry, the valuations besides sports and entertainment,
the valuations are the people just I don't you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
You don't hear.

Speaker 13 (01:15:34):
About a pilot or this or that, you know, where
the valuation stray too far off the data. But in baseball,
and specifically Bregman, maybe you guys can make thirteen or
twelve million dollars over valuation.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
You know, he's gone.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
That's fine. I wish you well, hope you know.

Speaker 13 (01:15:58):
But I'm strictly looking at it from a mathematical standpoint.
Make it make sense where a guy that's you know,
bat in two sixty and you guys are saying twenty
seven mil, twenty eight, hell thirty, let's just give the
margin of error ten percent. We blow by We blow
past that by twenty five percent. And that's where I

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think my issue is that I don't know if my
issue needs to be with Boris or Bregman or both
or the Red Sox. So I'm just trying to find
a place to land that plane. If you catch my drift,
you know where I do, I get it. Where is
the where?

Speaker 10 (01:16:33):
Where does the where does the over they paid for it?
He's happy, everybody's happy. I could care less.

Speaker 5 (01:16:39):
It's not my money.

Speaker 13 (01:16:40):
But twenty five percent over the worst case valuation of
thirty how did we get there?

Speaker 5 (01:16:47):
I mean, it just doesn't make sense. You know what, Brian,
before you go, And it's such a great point because
you're exactly right. You know, in any other profession outside
of the entertainment sports world, it's the only place where
you can be and forty and make a jump to
sixty when people thought you were going to make thirty
five right, basically what we're saying. And it felt like

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at the end that the Red Sox needed another home
run move in the offseason, even though they've had a
pretty good offseason, and they say, Okay, what's it going
to take, and well, this is all going along and
you I'm sure Brian, you went through it too. We're
asking ourselves, man, what is Boris doing? And the reason
why I'm not mad at Boris and Bregman because somebody
ended up paying it. I owed my distincts, never with

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the player. Now, where I'd have a problem with the players.
If you're under contract with a team and you hold
out of camp and you think, well, I'm worth more,
and you got three years left on your contract, dide
you sign the contract. You bet on yourself and sign
one year deals if that's your problem. But I don't
begrudge the player the agent. Why we do, because they're
not here and they left us. But I don't begrudge

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them because the Red Sox paid it. So the Red
Sox found yeah there, So I don't know where it stops,
my man, And you're exactly right, but but there's no
The truth is, there's no logical explanation for it other
than it only takes one in sports to fall in
love with you to blow the entire structure out of
the water. And that's what happened with Bredwa.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
And that's where and and that's where.

Speaker 13 (01:18:13):
You know, I've been saying this since twenty years ago,
and I thought we were going to run into the
wall ten years ago, but apparently we haven't.

Speaker 6 (01:18:23):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (01:18:23):
You know, as a as a math guy and as
a as a stats guy, I do this all day,
not in the entertainment business or sports business, but in
a different business. You know, when we're I just feel
like this industry, like the tariffs and everything else that
that that are you know, circling around in the conversation, right,
those expenses get passed down the line, and at some

(01:18:46):
point you have you still have eighty one games, you
still have forty three thousand seats. I don't know when this,
you know, ship hits the iceberg as far as the
entertainment and the ceiling on that scenario and the problem
you only have so many games and so many seats.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
In the stands and the.

Speaker 13 (01:19:07):
Fans, right, I mean, eventually you get to a point
where you weave yourself out of a business model, at
least in my mind, and you forty five percent over valuation.

Speaker 10 (01:19:18):
I don't know when when do we get to there?
I don't know if we ever do.

Speaker 15 (01:19:21):
I'd love to get your thoughts on that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:23):
Yeah, Brian, we need to sit down to have you
to have a full blown conversation, because can you imagine
if you're selling your house and and uh, you know
the comps or twenty seven somebody who comes off your
thirteen million board or whatever it is, and you're you're like, damn,
but that that disrupted destruction the power structure, or if
you're selling the business right, and you like you like
you said the valuations on two hundred million, and somebody says,

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you know what, I'm bored today. I don't feel like
negotiating and going through this. So here's five hundred million. Well, yeah,
I'm a thirty percent shareholder. I'm in Okay, you got it, dude.
So I mean in truth is, Brian, wouldn't we all
have done the bragman and worst thing, whether we like
it or not. You and I had done the same
thing exactly. But I can't, I can't right tried to

(01:20:07):
explain it. But it's gonna trickle down, whether it's the fans,
whether it's yes, somebody is going to pay. That's exactly right,
because in the business, in the business structure, somebody gets eliminated,
somebody has something, somebody else's contract suffers. You, Rob, Peter,
you got to pay Paul, and the Red Sox were
going to eventually have to pay Paul with this, and
if they get one hundred and twenty million dollars in production,

(01:20:29):
then they'll find a way to figure it out. So
great point by you, brother, great insight, my man. I
appreciate it. Thanks for the call. That's a guy who
obviously does contracts and negotiations and money and understands valuations
in his business. Brian tried the truth is where we
all make our mistake is trying to apply reality to
to pro the real world to pro sports, because it's

(01:20:52):
fantasy out the ass man. It's no other place with
twenty six, twenty seven, twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven,
twenty seven, six years, six years five. Oh, I think
I'll give them three two opt outs in one hundred
and twenty million at forty million a year, top six
average salary, avy top six. It's good to be Alex Bregman.

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Rockets beat the Suns and then Thompson triple double. Last night,
Alex Bregman signing with the Red Sox one hundred and
twenty million dollars for across three years forty million a year.
Couple opt outs included Astro's pitchers and catchers. Reporting this
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Speaker 5 (01:23:55):
Good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 7 (01:23:58):
How y'all doing this morning?

Speaker 5 (01:23:59):
Terrible? Well? Worry here? What's up?

Speaker 7 (01:24:02):
Yeah, I hear you. Uh, just a quick thing.

Speaker 12 (01:24:07):
Excuse.

Speaker 17 (01:24:08):
I'm not mad at Alex. He did what he did
because he thought that was the best thing for his situation.
I guess I wish he stayed. I'm a big Alex
pregnant fan.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Uh.

Speaker 17 (01:24:21):
I was born and raised in Housett, but I lived
in the New Orleans area now, so I watched him
all through college. Not that I'm an LSU fan. I'm
a I'm a HUT fan.

Speaker 5 (01:24:32):
But you know, but.

Speaker 17 (01:24:37):
Sean, you had mentioned about loyalty just before the break,
and loyalty.

Speaker 7 (01:24:42):
Is one of the things that can be fought.

Speaker 5 (01:24:47):
I'm not saying cheap, yep, It's sure can agreed.

Speaker 17 (01:24:53):
Everybody says uh astros ownership is cheap. They're not cheap.

Speaker 5 (01:24:58):
They're smart.

Speaker 17 (01:25:00):
At the end of the day, it's a business decision,
and he could have paid Alex what Alex was looking for.
But like y'all have pointed out over the last couple
of weeks, it threw us into the luxury tax big time.
They call us a small market organization. Not quite sure why, but.

Speaker 7 (01:25:24):
We don't go out and spend the two.

Speaker 17 (01:25:27):
Hundred and fifty million dollars for a show a Otani
or anything like that, not because we can't, but because
we don't want to be putting that extra tax bracket.
And we've got the supporting cast to still achieve our

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ultimate goal, which is to get back into the Championship
Series and make a run at another World Series.

Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
Well, as I got about fifteen seconds last.

Speaker 17 (01:25:57):
Man, one thing, Sean, you played football in Houston behind
Warren Moon. I hear toms all the time about the
greatest running backs in football, but nobody ever mentions Earl Campbell.

Speaker 5 (01:26:12):
We have on this show. Appreciate it. Yeah, we we
have on this show. I think that we've said, you know,
from Barry Sanders and Walter Payton. If you're talking about
the combination of power and speed, the only guy I
ever saw do it like Bo Jackson was before Bo Jackson,
and that was Earl Campbell. His combination of power and speed,

(01:26:36):
the ability to beat you on the edge and hit
a home run and then wear you out inside was
as good as we've ever had. And that's that's all
the great ones included and I played us fortune, I
played with a couple of Hall of famers at running
back and Dickerson and Marcus Allen. I'm watching those guys
play with something else. Man, We've got some great ones.
But if Earl Campbell's not mentioned in your top you know,

(01:26:56):
in that group right in the team picture and high
up in it, then you didn't watch enough or Okay,
this combination of speeding size was sick. Yeah, it really was.
So what about six one? About two twenty five? Yeah,
and ran like nine sub ten hundred yard dashback when
they were doing one hundred yards instead of meters, we're
like a four to fourty. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
You don't want any part of that, dude in the
open field. No, no chance, dude, no chance. This will
be a fun one. Got a guy, a Boston Red
Sox fan calling in from Connecticut.

Speaker 5 (01:27:25):
You got a guy? Yeah, I got a guy.

Speaker 18 (01:27:27):
Hello, Connor, Brian, how goes it? How's Houston this morning?

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
We're okay, man, We're okay. Welcome into the Sean Salisbury Show.
By the way, Connor, this is my cousin Connor calling in.

Speaker 5 (01:27:37):
What do you want?

Speaker 7 (01:27:37):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:27:37):
I imagine they probably call you because I got my son,
my middle boy as one of his best friends is Connor,
and really I've started calling him when he was in
high school, just to you know, knee high to a hiccup.
Connor's kon. Connor is a Boston Red Sox fan of Youyu, Conrad,
black guy, So con Coin's from. Yeah, do they call
you con Kon from Yukon?

Speaker 7 (01:27:56):
They do not?

Speaker 5 (01:27:57):
They do not. I might sick now though, Well they
better now conn from Yukon. What are the frat bros?
F What are the frat bros doing this morning?

Speaker 9 (01:28:06):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (01:28:06):
They're they're celebrating. This is huge news up in New England.

Speaker 4 (01:28:10):
So let me ask you, Connor, did you obviously you
being a Red Sox fan, did you guys really think
you were going to get Alex Bregman.

Speaker 18 (01:28:17):
You know, my feats was starting to dwindle. I would
have been happy either way. We obviously have one of
the better farms right now, and we have a lot
of middle infield prospects waiting in the in the wings,
so I could have gone either way. Yeah, you guys,
it was an overpay, but I mean three years, I'm
not mad at that. So it's got to be a

(01:28:39):
slap in the face in Houston too turned it down
the Connor over.

Speaker 5 (01:28:43):
Six, Brian, this is all you to your buddy, But
I just real quick, do you guys have will people
ask me here? And being a Sox fan, what will
happen to Bregman if he slow starts like he always does.
I said, he'll get booed there. But if he doesn't
make an excuse in grind still it love him, but
he'll hear about it. Yeah, and that's just that's just

(01:29:03):
part of being you know, passionate baseball town like Boston.

Speaker 18 (01:29:06):
Correct, Yeah, that's Boston for you. I mean, you've got
to be able to handle the heat.

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
There'll be a lot of it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:12):
It'll start slow, you think, Connor, do you think Devers
will eventually move off third base? Have you seen how
good Alex Bregman is playing defense?

Speaker 7 (01:29:19):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (01:29:20):
Absolutely filthy. And I think for multiple reasons, uh, Devas
should be off there. He should be a d H
or maybe try to teach him some first and get
a little rotation of him in constants and switch between
d H. But I think it's best for the team
if he does that, And if he could just focus
solely on hitting and stay healthy completely, I think we'd
be a real menace and.

Speaker 5 (01:29:41):
You'll save a bunch of runs throughout the season with
Bregman playing third base, big difference.

Speaker 18 (01:29:47):
Yeah, and it doesn't mean we have Yoshida in there too,
which we got to figure out. But I kind of
would like to just dump him for for nothing, just
open up a.

Speaker 5 (01:29:55):
Lot of talk. Is they're they're going to move him?
Are they? That's what they're unbelievable, underrated rans, really good too.

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
What's the other really good prospect that's that was supposed
to break camp, that was gonna play second base, but
now he's probably not gonna get that shot with Bregman?

Speaker 18 (01:30:09):
Gosh yeah, Kristen Kristen Campbell and there?

Speaker 5 (01:30:13):
Yeah, yeah, So is that is Marquise Chrism's kid? Is
Von related to his dad was obviously long time Atlanta brave.
I wonder if that DNA is grisome DNA especially is
a Marquis Grissom is his fault? There you go, So
there's a good baseball DNA there as well. So check
that out. Well, Connor, we appreciate you finding calling in man.

(01:30:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 18 (01:30:35):
Yeah, Hey, does everybody know that you're a Yankee fan
as a kid.

Speaker 5 (01:30:42):
Connor and I have been red Sox terrible. Brian was
a fan. Stop it, stop it, don't do that. You
are fake news, Connor, Brian's got three labels here yesterday hater,
big hater this week, since that's got to be right
because he hates white, sallow, and then finally, uh, very shallow.

(01:31:07):
Let's make it four tiers. Yeah, you're a mount Rushmore
all the way around, christ shallow and you're a Yankee guy. Yeah,
great to know. Appreciate that. I appreciate it. I'll know
that here one family that went to Yukon d You
want me to do this is a.

Speaker 4 (01:31:22):
Family member tells a family your band wagon Connecticut.

Speaker 5 (01:31:26):
Thanks, Connor, appreciate that. Man put you on the block list.
Thanks for shed light on a Yankee fan. Who's Who's
who hates? Uh who? I don't know. He hates everything
about everybody. Yes, crazy man and the triple he pointed
out what he called you. What was the one that
he added that we forgot shallow due you shallow. Hell

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has nothing on you. I mean, you're the guy.

Speaker 18 (01:31:50):
You're somebody.

Speaker 5 (01:31:52):
There's somebody's names sounds of the bus, Yeah, somebody's names.
If it's like as if it's a fat girl's name.
You call her fat even though she could be trim.
Man gotta be shallow. A shallow hater is there worse?
A shallow hater is a Yankee fan. I good?

Speaker 4 (01:32:09):
What I was going to the astronome Sean Berry was
like my favorite player.

Speaker 5 (01:32:14):
What guy honestly would be rooting for one team and
walk into an opposing ballpark and wear that school that
team's shirt. Let's let's let's set the record straight here. Yeah,
you're not doing that. No, we're not. Okay, No.

Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
My father was from New York. Him and my mom
both were from New York. They settled in Connecticut. They
lived in there until like.

Speaker 5 (01:32:35):
Eighty Yeah that was the crib Norwich Yeah now which
now now My cousin Chris lives in near Mystic, Connecticut.

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
The Gwich areas a beautiful area right by the water,
right on the right on the shoreline. Long Island Sound
is right there. I don't know where Connor lives.

Speaker 5 (01:32:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
I'd have to figure that out. But appreciate that, conn
of Thanks for throwing me under the buster. I'm sure
I'll get some tweets now. Thanks appreciate it. I can't dude,
You've done a great job of keeping that in the closet.
You see he came out.

Speaker 5 (01:33:08):
I did. Yeah, twics, congratulations, feels good, many five. I
bet it does.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
Love.

Speaker 5 (01:33:12):
Yeah, you feel liberated?

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Yeah I do.

Speaker 7 (01:33:14):
I do.

Speaker 5 (01:33:14):
It's a great it's a great day to be coming
out of closet. It's a great day to be live.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
Yeah that tt that teacher trip yeah trip yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:33:25):
Say that three times fast and hopefully you may miss
out on the old.

Speaker 19 (01:33:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
We're gonna welcome in Chris Gordy. He is down at
Astro spring of training. He's going to join us live.
Give us some updates. What's the temperature of the team
with Bregman going to the Red Sox. That's next.

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Speaker 5 (01:33:56):
Yeah, Gordy, boring day. Huh, welcome in awful boring around.
I would have had nothing happening. I mean, nobody's paying attention.
But just one hundred and twenty million for forty million
year is there a buzz or is it shock or
is it wow? I can't believe we're playing without him.

Speaker 15 (01:34:12):
Yeah, I appreciate it, guys. Yeah, we'll have a well
plenty of coverage here from from West Palm. You know,
all of our coverage out here presented by Carbok Brewing,
and I'm gonna post some videos throughout the day. We
just got out of the clubhouse and I was just
talking with Forrest Whitley, who, by the way, this is
his tenth Sprig trading out here. But even he said, yeah,
it's a little weird first time being here. No Bregman,

(01:34:34):
no Tucker. Yeah, I'd be lying if I said there
wasn't a little bit of a different vibe this year.

Speaker 5 (01:34:40):
You know, Gordia, they can try and sell us, but
as we sit today, the Astros aren't better, are they.
You know, wh if you say, well we got and
I know Paradus and getting Christian Walker in your mind,
are they better going into this season than they were
going into last season?

Speaker 15 (01:34:57):
Well, well, here's the tough argument. I mean it's like, no,
they're clearly not better, but they're not awful. I mean,
I had a buddy text me last night. He said
well it was a good run. I said, I'm sorry,
did did the Astros throw them the towel? Or are
they done? Are they closing up shop? Are they not
gonna play baseball anymore? Like this is still a really
good team, right, I mean wrong, Like the pieces they've

(01:35:17):
had at Christian Walker, I mean, these are these are
really good players. It's just yeah, they're not the headliners
that that of Bragman was or a Tucker whatever, So
no doubt. I mean it's a transition time there, there's change,
but change can also be good sometimes. So look, there's
some familiar faces here. It's just pictures and catchers reporting today,

(01:35:37):
but there's some position players here already. Chas McCormick is here,
Jake Myers is here. Uh you know all your you know,
there's a there's a bunch of the young guy Shay Whitcomb,
zact Zenzo. A lot of those guys are here. So yeah, man,
it's there's reason for optimism. And you know, one of
the guys that just chatted with Cam Smith, who was
obviously the big uh part of that Kyle Tucker trade.

(01:35:57):
I mean he's a big kid man and uh basically
said they're gonna play him at every position out here,
and he's knocking on the door. He's hungry, he wants
to come up. So yeah, I mean to answer the
question Sean that they're not better, but they're not. It's
not like they're thirty times worse. I think it's just
gonna be different. It's it's different. And that's not to
say that, you know, some of these new pieces Paratus

(01:36:19):
and Walker can't come in and hit twenty plus home
runs and you know, maybe they produce a little bit more,
because look, we get attached to the names, right, Yeah,
we get still attached to as fans with a lot
of these guys. But let's not act like Kyle Tucker
didn't miss over half of last season and this team
still still sustained. Let's not act like, you know, Alex
Bragmant wasn't batting below the Mendoza line for a good

(01:36:39):
bit of early last year. I mean they weren't.

Speaker 7 (01:36:42):
They were.

Speaker 15 (01:36:43):
With all the good, there was a lot of bad
there too that we can't just ignore. And so yeah, look, man,
if Christian Walker comes in here, that's three hundred and
it's clubbing home runs. We'll we'll forget pretty quickly about
the guys who left, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (01:36:56):
Chris cordiorpdi here and he's down at spring trainings every
year covering this Astros and giving us great insight on
the Astros. Obviously, Alex Bregman now Boston Red Sox of
the Buzz will be that, among other things that spring
training for the Astros. Gordy, this may seem odd, but
he's seen Springer leave, He's seeing Korea, his infield running

(01:37:16):
mate Leaf and now his guy that he wanted to
go to, you know, wanted here obviously, jose Al TV
and Alex Bregman. Does it come to a point and
I'm sure we're going to hear from him at some
point here in the next week or two or whenever
he speaks on this. Is is it going to get
to the point that the cumulative effect. Can it wear
on him mentally and psychologically? Or is he such a
pro it doesn't matter.

Speaker 15 (01:37:39):
L Twovey has seen a lot come and go, so
I don't I don't think anything is gonna I don't
think that anything's going to change his approach to coming
to the ball club. I mean, look, I remember a
couple of years back when George Springer will last elling
man that is the heart and soul of that clubhouse.
I mean, I'd be sitting in the clubhouse during media
availability and he's the guy that would go up behind
a guy, tap him on the shoulder and run. I mean,

(01:38:00):
just like the class clown almost And I was like, man,
it's going to really suck without George Springer. And yet
they sustained. And then here came the you know, the
Chieting scandal, and you know, Carl's Korea was the voice
of the leader of this club, and you know when
when he had free agency, it was like, oh my god,
they're losing such a big leader at Carls Korea. I
don't know how they're going to sustain. And yet their

(01:38:21):
twenty two World Series champs, so you know what I mean,
Like the guys have come and gone, and you know,
as much as we want to overreact and to it's
the biggest loss. Ever, somehow, this this organization, the foundation,
they find a way to sustain. And so yeah, look
to me, the two faces of this club are Jose
al tuo Van and Jordon Alvarez. Still, there was no

(01:38:42):
offense to the guys like Justin Verlander or Kyle Tucker
or even Bregman. You know, those are all great players.
But to me, the two pieces that are gonna, you know,
stir this drink are Altuve and You're not. They have
got to be the two guys that lead by example
and produce. And I mean, you know, now two rolls
out of bed and he's going to bat three hundred right.

(01:39:02):
To me, it's about It's about Jordan Alvarez and Joe
Spotta has talked about it. They're going to try to
get him off his seat way more this year. They
want him primary dh. They don't want him in the outfield,
they don't want him playing positions. They want to keep
his legs fresh and uh and get those power numbers up.
So you know, if they do that, this club's going
to be right there, you know, als champs again and

(01:39:23):
making the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (01:39:25):
Gordie, you mentioned earlier, I don't want to bury the
lead of this opening where you said Forrest Whitley is
at his tenth spring training, his tenth Now that it's
this is kind of a two it's it's it's it's
kind of sitting on the fence because most organizations, after
what he's been through, weight loss, changing pitching mechanics. Uh,

(01:39:46):
you know, the injuries, everything he's been through. Wouldn't never
have had the patience even though the expectations for him
were through the roof and still maybe are. They would
have moved on a while ago, but they still see
something that says he can be really good. And now
here we are in his tenth spring training, why should
this year be any different? And will it?

Speaker 15 (01:40:06):
Well, he knows his role. You know, I was talking
to him about you know, he still wants to be
a starter, but he said he gets it. They want
him to be a reliever right now. And you know
he would talk specifically about Ryan Presley leaving and you
know that that there's a hole there. Obviously we all
know Brian A. Brayhue moves up to kind of the
setup man role ahead of Josh Hader. But you know

(01:40:26):
who's that seventh in a guy? And you know Force Whitley.
Go look at his thory appearances last year. Guys, he
gave up a couple of runs, but they were unearned.
I mean, he made his big league debut finally last
year and he's got a zero point zero e R.
So he seems confident, man. I mean he's a guy
that has gone through the rigger with everything injuries and
I mean, you name it, he's been through it, and

(01:40:47):
so what what more does he have to lose here?
I think I think he seems like he's in a
good headspace and we'll see how he does thereout the
spring training if if he shows up and shows out. Yeah,
he's a guy who absolute we can make this club
and make this bullpen out of a spring training and
it would be a heck of a story.

Speaker 5 (01:41:04):
Our teammate in uh obviously a teammate here at the
Sports Talk seven to ninety and RPD and always down
at spring training. Chris Gordy joins us from West Palm
Astros pitchers and catchers for a couple more minutes. All right, Gordy,
you're now the manager and the general manager. You're Dana
Brown and Joe Spot and put together how do we
line up and outfield this World Series? Worthy? Put it

(01:41:26):
together for me?

Speaker 15 (01:41:28):
Yeah, I mean, look, hos how too? May they are good?
This is a very real thing. And that's what we're
so interesting about seeing here for these workouts at spring
training is he is going to get some run in
left field. That that was not just a contingent on Oh.
If they signed Bregman back like they really want to
get him. I mean, and look at the advanced numbers
Ross v Rrell and I talked about Oh last year,

(01:41:49):
Like his defensive numbers at second were not good. I
mean they were dipping, dipping, dipping, And so I think
they realize, you know, if we can if we can
plug out two May and left field for you know,
I don't know half the sea, and if if that,
you know, if they get that many but like plug
him in the in the left field, they just solve
so many issues. It makes you better defensively with paritis
and and Christian Walker on the ipsfield. That that's a

(01:42:12):
real thing. We're gonna have to watch.

Speaker 6 (01:42:14):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:42:14):
Jess McCormick and Jake Myers are here. Man, they were
just laughing and cutting up in the clubhouse, and you know,
those are two guys that have to elevate. They've got
to have, you know, one of their best seasons yet,
both those guys. And if they can do that, you know,
then we can get into the guys like Taylor Trammel
who's in the mix, and you know, maybe one of
these other guys that's knocking on the door. Jacob Melton.

(01:42:35):
I even talked to Cam Smith, who's now their number
one prospect in the system, told me he's he's gonna
play some outfield throughout this spring training. I think they
they recognize that they're there are holes there. And the
other thing to think about, guys, what if Jake Myers
or Chas mccoranck goes down with an injury. You know,
then you're really behind the eight ball. We're just kind
of counting on them plugging them into centerfield and right field. Okay,

(01:42:57):
they're just everyday starters. But if either of them has
lost or any extent a period of time and they
were really really hurt and looking for a outfielder, So yeah, man,
it's it's gonna be interesting to see who kind of
has a hot spring and who kind of earns that spot.
But you know, we talked to Taylor Tremmell at at
at FanFest and he's a journeyman who's plays with the
Mariners and the Yankees, and you know, he studies up

(01:43:18):
for the opportunity. So hopefully somebody rises out of camp.
Guys that that really helps solve that outfield depth issue.

Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
All right, Gordy. With that, you mentioned some great names
and some guys and the young guys that want an opportunity.
And I don't even care if it's a veteran, a
guy coming back from injury like lancemc colors. It can
be anybody. Give us one name that maybe in your
gut you feel that we need to keep an eye
on and see if they elevate, or that you plan
on seeing them elevate at any position.

Speaker 15 (01:43:47):
Yeah, I got, I'm just I don't know why. I
just really really like him and I'm high on him.
Is active though, I mean, the guy just looks the part.
I mean you guys, I mean he. I mean he's
got the body of a of a.

Speaker 5 (01:44:01):
Of a linebacker.

Speaker 15 (01:44:02):
I mean he's he's a big dude, and and I
just like all his tools, all his skill set, man.
And so you know, he's a guy that that they
were even talking about last year. Is a possible airror
parrot to Bregmit at third base. And so you know,
we'll see he can play multiple infield spots. We'll see
if they use him in the outfield. But uh, I
don't know, man, I just like his batle lot And

(01:44:23):
so that's the guy. I'm going to be watching. I mean,
we're gonna have the games, spring training games right here
at seven ninety. You definitely want to be tuned into
those first couple of weeks of spring training. And here
are what some of these guys do, like Shay Whitcomb,
like Zachtazenzo, because a bunch of these guys got a
little bit of a taste last year of the bigs.
But man, if any of those guys elevate their game,
it's it sells good things for the astro.

Speaker 5 (01:44:45):
If do Zenzo's production matches his optics. The look the body, Gordy,
we got a monster in the lineup, dude, because he
is I'm six, and that dude stare at me square
of the eye and looks like he's about two seventy
five with about four percent body. I know he's not
that big, but he's every bit of two forty. If
those optics match production, brother, we are in for good

(01:45:07):
shape and have a nice long future with him, all right.
With spring training. There's always a cold beer too, and
I know that you got somebody that took you down.
There's pretty good too, man.

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(01:45:36):
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Speaker 5 (01:45:58):
Gordy, always appreciate you great stuff and enjoy should be
pretty uh pretty interesting uh few days there and we'll
talk to you tomorrow. Man.

Speaker 15 (01:46:05):
Thanks for the time, definitely, guys and Keith for our listeners.
Check out Sports seven night dot com. We'll have content
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Speaker 5 (01:46:16):
Always brother, thank you. That's Chris Cordy appreciated good stuff
down there. And then Brian, you and I both know Dezenzo. Uh,
like I said, the optics, it's just there. When he
walks into the room, it's it's a big dude. Oh
yes it is. It's a big dude. Jimmy cam Smith.
You know what you say when people say that, you say,
okay that on TV when he walks in, it's like, damn, dude,

(01:46:38):
what times football training camp start with with monthy linebacker?
Your edge rusher this year? Or you played left field? Yeah,
the third base of what. Yeah, it's pretty impressive. And
apparently camp Smith ain't ain't exactly small either, so I
can't wait to see him both.

Speaker 4 (01:46:51):
So uh keep you rolling seven one three, seven ninety
right here on The Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 5 (01:46:56):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued, Please come to Boston. Yeah, well,
you know it is what it is. He got paid
forty million dollars a year. You can't hate him for it.

Speaker 4 (01:47:10):
No, anybody that's bitching, moning, a complaining on the Twitter
streets right now.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
Oh bragman didn't want to be here.

Speaker 5 (01:47:17):
You would take forty million years, every one of them,
every single one of us would every two at the end. Addition,
just apply it to your job and blow the opt
blow the metrics out of the water. Where one boss
is offering you one hundred grand in your job, or
two hundred grand in your job, or fifty grand, and
then another one comes in if you're making fifty grand
and says, I want you to come here and I'll

(01:47:38):
pay you a buck forty five. Yeah, that's even worse
than that. We'll pay you two hundred. That's the jump.

Speaker 15 (01:47:44):
You're not.

Speaker 5 (01:47:46):
Saying, I'm loyal to this one year, Yeah, for two years.
Going to go back to your boss s here's the offer,
and they're going to say love you, good luck. Right,
you gotta take this. That's exactly right. So whatever it's
relative to your job, we're all, every single frigging one
of us.

Speaker 4 (01:48:02):
Yeah, even if if you get offered one forty five
and you're making fifty, you're taking it.

Speaker 5 (01:48:08):
Especially when you're in your thirties. If you're seventy and
somebody offers you may say, you know what I've done
did enough, you can keep it. This is the quality
of life I want for him. It may be Boston
it maybe it doesn't matter. The point is, and we
got to and I do it jokingly. Loyalty in sports,

(01:48:29):
we've it's skewed. They're not loyal and money and our caller,
I can't remember who it was, said, you can buy loyalty,
and you can. The Boston Red Sox did exactly that.
I would if Alex Bregman would have come back here
for twenty seven million or twenty six million instead of
and knowing Boston offered him what they offered him and
he turned it down, I just said, he's an idiot. Yeah,

(01:48:50):
we all would if he came back here. We all
wanted to take that. He's not going to a hack team.
They're pretty damn good and they had to be a
pretty good off season and some arms, which is but
when Boston it's good, and Boston's been good when evolved
he was there. They've always when their pitching has been good,
they'll hang around. They just do they scrap. But I'm
just telling you that I had thought he was more

(01:49:11):
nuts to stay than to take it, knowing the discrepancy
million dollar job in broadcast world. And all of a
sudden somebody offers you four million. You're taking it. Of
course you are three more million dollars. Of course you
are so get as mad as you want to. And
it's it's pride for us. We all get stung by
how can I dare you?

Speaker 7 (01:49:29):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:49:29):
I can tell you how dare you? The hundred and
twenty million reasons? How dare you so? I don't have
a listen him? And once again, Boris is smart for
a reason. We may not like his approach, but his
job is number one. Job is to please his client,
who obviously approved of it, and squeeze as much out
of the turn up as you possibly can without killing both.

(01:49:55):
And he's done it again. And guess who hired him?
Didn't Hunt A. Brown? Just Brown didn't just I? And
God news. If Hunter Brown's assent continues, you're you're going
to be him. He won't be here either. If his
ascent continues as it is with Scott Morris, they will
not be able to afford him.

Speaker 4 (01:50:11):
God forbid your On Alvarez higher Scott.

Speaker 5 (01:50:14):
Borris, God forbidding Lord On Alvarez gets into the four
hundred million range. I mean, I want it for him, Well,
I want it for him. If he stays on this track,
he will his assent. That's my point. And guess what
you'll be looking at a new DH that's reality. And
guess where he'll end up Boston, yank Yankees, Mets, or

(01:50:37):
Dodgers with a sneaky San Francisco Giant Giants right there,
they'll jump in and pay. Yes, there, there it is
because he's not gonna have to scramble around and settle.
I'm not saying it's settling for a smaller market, but
he's not going to Pittsburgh because they're not coming to
Miami or Cincinnati or Kansas City. And they may all

(01:50:59):
still win, but he's not going any of them. No,
and he ain't going to Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (01:51:04):
You know he's not there. You go, oh, he's not.
Just take a quick call and then we'll get to break. Brandon,
what's up, buddy?

Speaker 5 (01:51:12):
Good morning Brian, Hey, Brandon, we gotta let's try that again.

Speaker 4 (01:51:16):
You gotta say good morning, Brian, good morning, Sean, good morning,
tripley like you always do.

Speaker 17 (01:51:20):
All right, let's go, come on, good morning, Sewan, good morning,
good morning, Brian.

Speaker 20 (01:51:26):
How you go?

Speaker 7 (01:51:27):
There?

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
We go?

Speaker 8 (01:51:28):
Brand oh love, triple triple triple z up in this house?

Speaker 5 (01:51:36):
Yeah? What's up? Brandon? Brand? Did I like it?

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
Hey?

Speaker 20 (01:51:39):
I'm happy Brightman got signed to the Boston What.

Speaker 5 (01:51:42):
Yeah, go ahead, brand Yeah, let it brand That's what
I'm talking about from Brandon. Ah, damn it?

Speaker 19 (01:51:54):
Love.

Speaker 5 (01:51:54):
Why are you happy Brandon that he's with Boston?

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
Because nice?

Speaker 5 (01:52:03):
Hey, Hey, when that's not my mom's yeah, mom, mom,
When moms decides that you're gonna you're gonna be happy
with the trade, damn well, better that's disciplined, or mom's
is wheeled, my mom's Yeah, the mom's mom is running
the show at the house. I love it. I love it.

(01:52:23):
What else is on your mind? Brand out?

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
Yep?

Speaker 20 (01:52:28):
Hey the Walkeets one? I watched the game, restaurant.

Speaker 5 (01:52:31):
Did you watch all of it?

Speaker 6 (01:52:34):
Yes?

Speaker 20 (01:52:34):
I did.

Speaker 4 (01:52:35):
I'm proudy Brandon, proudy Brandon. Are you happy the Rockets one?

Speaker 7 (01:52:39):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (01:52:41):
Appreciated, Brandow. We'll talk to you tomorrow, buddy, trade day.

Speaker 5 (01:52:43):
Great to hear from you. Brandon.

Speaker 8 (01:52:45):
Please come to Bosting in the springtime.

Speaker 5 (01:52:50):
Oh yeah, man, listen. Okay, So I'm a little giddy
if he leaves and goes. I mean, I wanted him here.
Do you say giddy?

Speaker 21 (01:52:58):
Yeah, giddy kind of it's kind of it's kind of
can I see you go ahead? This is kind of game. Okay,
it's okay. They're both g words and that's I'm right,
don't you know what. Don't judge me, okay on my
giddy choice? All right, kind of a weak word, but
I used it anyway. I'm giddy and now not because

(01:53:18):
that I want to hear with the ashes. I told
you all along. But if he is gonna leave, he's
gonna go to and I haven't been Boston. Please can
you have just appeased me with something? And I don't
care how much you paid him, you know why.

Speaker 5 (01:53:32):
Because it han I paid for season tickets and Fenway
and I'm gonna beg for freebies when I do go,
so whatever, So you right. So I'm gonna miss him here,
but you know what, I'm gonna love him there, so
hard to hate, right, And I really want to see parades, Okay,
I want to. I want to see him already for

(01:53:53):
him so planned the paradis nice. Yeah, socks it over
the wall every single time he shows up, so we
can play in the parades.

Speaker 4 (01:54:01):
Yeah, there, you go ethought Perettas. That's home run number
twenty five of the season.

Speaker 5 (01:54:06):
Blumber.

Speaker 4 (01:54:07):
Then do we miss You know a lot of people
said we're going to miss Alex bregmant. We sure do,
just from a family standpoint, but Pretties has played really well.

Speaker 5 (01:54:16):
There you go. The truth is you're actually hoping it
happen that you're hoping that that conversation with with the
with t K and Blumber take place, right, which means, okay,
it's a bummer losing him, but the guy that replaced him,
we'll take it.

Speaker 4 (01:54:32):
Christian Walker with a good scoop over there first. Some
people call him Luke Skywalker. Heard that on the Shot
Salisbury show. That's right, you damn right, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:54:42):
I love it. A lot of problems wrong, wrong, Oh,
I know a lot is wrong with you don't and
I don't take any medicine for it, but maybe I
should start. But you know what, doctors, you know, only
see those commercials, which I love real quick. Yeah yeah,
and I've said this before, but they put the commercial
on and they give you like, for instance, let's say
there was a commercial that they came up. They came

(01:55:03):
up with a pill for whack job inness okay, And
it was directed and I was endorsing the product. And
then they go through after telling you, hey, if you're
a whack job and you beat to a different drum
and some people look at you like your nuts, here's
what you take and you know ten right, take ten
milligrams and solve us all your whack job problems in here.
And then I go on and give you a personal testimony.

(01:55:24):
And then it comes back and for the next twenty
minutes it gives you all the side of the said,
why you're gonna die from the pill. That's my favorite.

Speaker 6 (01:55:31):
Do this and this.

Speaker 5 (01:55:32):
By the time you're dead, you said, well, every part
of my body is disintegrated. I'm still not a pill, right,
but I'm not a whack job. Okay. It's my favorite.
And by the way, real quick, I got a problem
with when I order a sandwich or a burger and
you give me the heel of the tomato. Oh god
on on both of them. The heel of tomato should

(01:55:57):
be outlagged. You cut both heads off and move on.

Speaker 7 (01:55:59):
Move on.

Speaker 5 (01:56:00):
Don't give me the heeled tomato. No, I almost went
back to the kitchen. You can't heal tomato. You can
you can't. That's awful, right, who eats with a little
green at the end of it?

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
You know the root?

Speaker 5 (01:56:10):
Don't. Don't give me the heel of a tomato on
a sandwich. That's bad, man. I almost opened up.

Speaker 8 (01:56:16):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (01:56:16):
I'm not gonna sell him out. No, And it wasn't
you know, uh what a Patty melt? Okay? Which is
what the which is what the restaurant should be called anyway,
because that's the best thing on the menu. What a
Patti melt? Or what a what a tiketos? Yeah it was?
It wasn't there, Okay? And I'm not gonna sell anybody
out because maybe I'll endorse their product. But that being said,

(01:56:39):
don't serve me a dog on the heel of the tomato?
And why is it in the rotation? Okay, I don't
eat a six man rotation. Yeah, give me my middle
of the tomato. Yes, this is my bitch day. But
let's get back to let's not bury the lead. Please
come to ban We'll get get back out to the

(01:57:01):
phone line to John and Lisa. You're up next. All
that Mightey Bregman makes. Wouldn't it be great if we
could all take that from our own bank and go
to tras Wealth and Sam thinking about retirement in a
handful of years, how do we get there? Well, it's
a good start, Sean. You've done a good job of
preparing for it, and I want the same for you guys, right,
I want the same for you guys. We think about

(01:57:21):
preparations that an agent has to put together to prepare
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Speaker 4 (01:58:56):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Get back at it, Lisa,
You're up first and we'll get to John. What's up, Lisa?

Speaker 5 (01:59:04):
Good morning, gentlemen, God, why we Why are we exasperated? Lisa?
What's going on? What happened sign somewhere or some.

Speaker 22 (01:59:17):
Bregman's gone and another one of our guys.

Speaker 5 (01:59:20):
But but here's it.

Speaker 22 (01:59:21):
Here's the thing, like I think the reason that that myself,
I'm gonna speak for the whole fan base.

Speaker 5 (01:59:25):
I'm just gonna say it right now.

Speaker 22 (01:59:27):
I feel like, you know, the we are in we
have been any of this core group of guys since
twenty seventeen, any of them that that brought us one
or both of our championships. I think we're emotionally invested
in them and attached to them for that reason, and

(01:59:48):
that's never gonna change. I Mean, these guys brought us championships, right,
and and I just feel that's that's why it hurts
to me. That's why I get just so bummed when
when one of these core guy's leaves is because of that.
You know, Bregman's got two championships. He doesn't, I mean,
he just wants to get paid and take care of
his family. But you know what, we have two championships,

(02:00:10):
and so I just it's like a bittersweet thing. It's
business and there's and I just it sucks, but we
just have to. I think that's why it feels different
with these guys when they leave, because of what they
gave us and were attached to them and the excellent
baseball that we were treated to over the last several years. This,

(02:00:33):
I mean, this was a dynasty.

Speaker 5 (02:00:34):
I don't care what anybody says, and.

Speaker 2 (02:00:37):
I just think that's why it hurts.

Speaker 22 (02:00:39):
But at the same time, I'm happy for him to
get paid and any of these guys to get paid,
and that's that's that's it, that's all.

Speaker 5 (02:00:48):
I gotta say. But I'm I'm disappointed, but it's the business.

Speaker 22 (02:00:53):
But I'm also think that's why we're so disappointed is
because of what they gave us and how emotionally attached
we we became to them over the last few Yearsantastic,
fantastic point.

Speaker 5 (02:01:06):
I think she hit it spot on. It is this
is listen. You know, athletes come and go. I actually
think it would be different if they had won a
championship with this group, that they'd be able to part
with them easier. We all would. Because he said sports,
it's business. People move on, get new jobs, getting new promotions,
whatever it is. It's I don't think I think Lisa's
spot on it, and and I'll even raise it one.

(02:01:27):
I think it's one hundred percent emotional. I don't think
they're mad that he got forty million. I don't think
they And maybe they're bothered that somebody didn't offer him
forty million. Here that the Astros don't budge from what
they do from their their game plan. But this is
one hundred percent Springer Correa Bregman. It's emotional because they

(02:01:49):
grew up in your family and then they got married
and moved away and you became an empty nester. Yeah,
that's how you feel. It's like I want Tom back.
I want Tom back. But you also know when your
kids grow up, they got grow up, they're gonna so
in the process, whenever you'll hear people talk about it,
I know it's kind of a cheesy comparison, but develop
you and your wife, for you and your significant other together,

(02:02:09):
because when the kids move out, you better have something
to talk about. When these players move on, you better
have something to replace them. And it's the young guys.
It's Descenzo that this is the group you're talking about.
How the Astros were built in the first place, the
very way they were built is the very thing that
bothers you that those guys you're emotionally tied to are
leaving the essence of life, the evolution of life. And

(02:02:33):
now Descenzo's Bregman, somebody else's Cam Smith, Jacob Melton, Cam
Smith is Kyle Tucker. That's what you're hoping, right, And
so here we are. And yet Forest Whitley has been
to ten spring trains so wild that he just cast
in spring Train ten ten. I couldn't pull for the

(02:02:53):
guy any harder to finally ten spring. There is no doubt.
So it is Lisa's right. It's all this is amotional
through and through. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:03:02):
And also, man, you know when you think about like
the homegrown guys right like you mentioned it Korea, they're
not somebody else's Ringer yep. Now Bregman, Jose two Ve
is the only one that stayed. He was homegrown right here,
but he's a little bit earlier. Look, man, don't cry
because it's over. Smile because it happened.

Speaker 5 (02:03:16):
Oh here we go. You had to hit the go
go a sheet for a quote. I hear here I
am by in all your like the buck said, man's
going did you ye?

Speaker 4 (02:03:27):
Don't cry because it's over smile because it happened.

Speaker 5 (02:03:29):
Who said that one? Uh me?

Speaker 21 (02:03:31):
Okay, so that's the Brian liv saying yeah. Also unknown yeah,
author unknown man, the.

Speaker 5 (02:03:35):
Jose Al two Bays. When it comes to staying rare,
that's very rare in all of sports. It's very rare.
It's actually my guy, doctor Seuss. Yeah, very rare, the
one guy stays with the same franchise whole career. Yeah.
Maybe in baseball. And I have to look at the
metrics of j even starting quarterbacks in the NFL, the
Bradys of the world twenty five years ago would have
been insane. You Brady would have never left Yeah Montana,

(02:03:58):
you know had at the end of his career, ended
up going to Can't See. But years and years ago
when you had your study, they they didn't go anywhere.
Right now, if you can keep them, it's a it's
a win win. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:04:10):
Hey, real quick, excuse me, Trevor uh tweeted us, and uh,
I'm gonna do it in uh you know, just real quick.
Parrettas hits one deep to left field. Farget about it.
We got to fire up some raids against the machine
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Speaker 5 (02:04:25):
Is that what he wrote for you to say. Now
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that's good stuff.

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Where it began.

Speaker 7 (02:06:02):
I can't begin to know and.

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Six walks right out to two Raymond lights. This one
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Speaker 19 (02:06:10):
Can you conness that one goodbye, make it two hovers
for aliclipmit Tastro's lad, it's four to two in spring.

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That came its hot.

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On the Raymond hits it well, it hits it till
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Here we go touching.

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Sweet caramel line, my cop ba good time never seems.

Speaker 5 (02:06:53):
So good, so good, so good, so good. I've been inclined.

Speaker 1 (02:07:00):
Bob to bellyeve never.

Speaker 5 (02:07:12):
Uh well, you know what, you could either be down
or you could just like kick his ass out the
door with sweet carry letter. Yeah, you know, we're just
actually trying to add a little We're trying to add
a little you know, a little light to a situation.
Why not, you know, but if you didn't know this
was coming, maybe not to Boston for forty bill, but

(02:07:32):
you know, hey, Triple I got another banger for you.
Boston's more than a feeling man. Are we going to
just continue to harp on the Boston? Yeah? Yeah, you're
not going with a drop kick Burphy's.

Speaker 2 (02:07:47):
Are sweet Caroline.

Speaker 5 (02:07:53):
We're just trying to make people laugh at a time,
you know, It's one of those things, you know, when
things are god, you gotta laugh. You doctor Sue said,
don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened.

Speaker 4 (02:08:06):
It's true in life. Dog, Look he's in it. We're
empty nesters, now, okay?

Speaker 5 (02:08:10):
Are they someone still here? Is josel to Man a
right empty dester? And when he grows up and gets
buried and leaves mm hmm, we'll sing, let's go Yankee, Well,
who damn you know he's a lifer.

Speaker 4 (02:08:27):
Yeah, that's true, that is very true, real quickly, and
we'll get out to Chris and John on the phone lines.
Dana Brown spoke to the media this morning at spring training. Uh,
we'll cunkle tweeting out some of these tweets. Also, Chris
Cordy's gonna be doing it on our Sports seven ninety good.

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Stuff Sports seven Yeah, Sports seven ninety dot com for
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And then also on our Twitter page Sports Talk seven ninety.
We'll conkle put up a quote with Dana Brown saying, quote,
we feel like our outfield is strong right now.

Speaker 5 (02:08:53):
End quote. When does our when does my regular visits
start with Dana Brown here?

Speaker 6 (02:08:56):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:08:57):
Beginning to see the first week usually the first week
prior to the season. I think, okay, week prior or
the first week week, and I'm gonna ask him that
I wish I could get them on spring training because now, listen,
I always reserved that kind of judgment. Whatever what he's
seeing in house is not the optics we see outside
of it. So and that's and that's fair. But that

(02:09:19):
being said, what tells him My question was, what tells
you this is a good outfield or a great outfield
or a World Series outfield. He's going to have to
do some convincing, and you know, we love data convincing
that this isn't going into the season field average. Now,
if you're telling me that you got plans for Cam
Smith in a position, you know, an outfield, and you

(02:09:42):
got the Descenzo can play some left field, and you're
telling me these young bodies are gonna chip in and
be a big part of it, then I'm telling you, okay,
we're heading the right direction. But if you're telling me
that what we got going in is an outfield, that's
and maybe they maybe they have career years, Brian, We've
seen that in other places, right, But on paper, going
in you'd have to do a lot of convincing to

(02:10:03):
convince people that this is a good outfield. Yeah, there
are that you feel really good about it.

Speaker 4 (02:10:06):
We heard this last spring training, Joe A. Spotta, Dana Brown.
Jake Myers is the guy. Jake Myers is the guy.
We've got a lot of confidence in Jake Myers. He's
gonna have a good year. The dude hit two eighteen
for you.

Speaker 5 (02:10:17):
I think you'll hit better than John Jacob jingle Heimer Smith.
I would take jingle Himer Schmidt over Jake Myers right now,
you would.

Speaker 4 (02:10:22):
Yeah, have you seen his game? Who's John Jacob jingle
Himer Smith. He's gonna hit better than two twenty. I
guarantee you that.

Speaker 5 (02:10:29):
He's dude, he's slap hitter, Jake John Jacob jingle Himer Smith.
Oh maybe, so you're right. Okay, So I put two together.
I said, Okay, starting centerfielder Jake Myers or John Jacob
jingle Heimer Smith.

Speaker 4 (02:10:40):
Give me John Jacob jingle Heimer Smith all day and
twice on Sunday. Yeah, Jake Myers is the bomb.

Speaker 5 (02:10:46):
Dude. Let's go to John John j d. Guy from
high school. It was Jack could put him in center
field superstars.

Speaker 2 (02:11:00):
What's up, John, Yeah, Brian, he's a bomb. He's he's
what what do you call it, Miles a bomb out of.

Speaker 19 (02:11:07):
The Yeah, he's a bomb man. And I love him
to dad. He's a nice kid. But he damned came here.
But look, man, I'm gonna ask you, you guys a
couple of questions. I've been behind a little bit, but
I want to say something to Sean about Gregman. Uh
that new old c is that today that he does
introduction and.

Speaker 4 (02:11:25):
D Nick nick Keyley, Sorry John nick Keyley, one o'clock
today speaking at NRG Stadium.

Speaker 18 (02:11:31):
Okay, did he bring some coaches with him?

Speaker 19 (02:11:33):
Man offensive line offensive line coach?

Speaker 5 (02:11:36):
No he did not.

Speaker 19 (02:11:38):
Okay, well all right, well we're gonna have to see.

Speaker 6 (02:11:40):
What we got.

Speaker 5 (02:11:40):
Their offensive line coach is hired in house right here. Okay.

Speaker 19 (02:11:46):
I was hoping, yeah, I was hoping he'd bring a
guy so with him that he really cause. But anyway,
he looks Sean, you get it, Huh, buddy, I'm happy
for you man. I'm happy for Gregman. You know, because
Gregman helped was win two championships. I mean, if they
ask those can pick up some players and and and
they played for us five six years and then they

(02:12:07):
got and we get a championship. We're doing real good.
But listen, I love Greggy. I hope you do good
over that for Boston, for you, but you know, you
know he came here.

Speaker 5 (02:12:17):
Mhm mm hmmm. Appreciate it. John, that's John. And for
people that know, I mean obviously, Sean, what do you
the only reason I'm a little bit giddy. I'm still
bummed that we don't get to see him every day here,
but at least he's going to my lifelong where my
heart's been team my whole life. Yeah, it's easy to
fall in love with this team. But yeah, if he's
gonna go, if he's gonna leave, go to Boston. Him
to Boston. There, you go show him up to Boston, Chris,

(02:12:39):
appreciate you a him. Good morning, Good morning guys.

Speaker 15 (02:12:44):
So I wanted to start with Alex Bregman, and I
will say I'm glad he went to Boston. Boston was
my ale team before we were in the AL I
will say I think the biggest burn with most of
the fans with him as opposed to Springer and Korea.
Springer and Korea when they were on the cusp of
free agency were always very ambivalent in non committal, and

(02:13:05):
so you kind of knew that they were looking to
get the money, whereas Bregman spent the last year and
a half two years beating me. I want to stay
in Houston drum, So I think that's kind of where
that comes from. And then I wanted to move on
to spring training because y'all were talking about it.

Speaker 5 (02:13:25):
Y'all had somebody out at.

Speaker 15 (02:13:26):
Spring training, anybody in the fan base that has never
been I suggest they go. Aside from probably World Series games,
excuse me, and watching Jose Cruz at nine years old
in the Dome, because we all know nothing in baseball
is better than it was when you were watching it

(02:13:46):
at nine. Spring training is the best experience I have
ever had. The players are accessible there. My daughter and
I tried to go every other year. Last time we
were there, she got Jeff Bagwell with Segner glove and
play softball. So Bagwell looks at her and says, what
are you going to do with this glove? And she
looks right at him and says, my daddy paid two

(02:14:08):
hundred dollars for this glove. I'm playing ball with this glove.
And it looks at her, gives her a big old
smile and says, and that's exactly what he said. He said,
I love it so but no, it's a great time
down there. Uh you've got the Marlins and.

Speaker 5 (02:14:23):
Uh Nationals share ball park. Yeah, national shareh ballpark with
the Astros. You got a couple of ballparks, all.

Speaker 15 (02:14:29):
Right, the teams right there within five miles.

Speaker 5 (02:14:32):
I mean it is.

Speaker 15 (02:14:33):
It is absolutely wonderful. And if y'all are out there
and I see y'all, I'll I'll come by and say, hey,
we'd love to be there first week in March because
we got a week off from Marty.

Speaker 5 (02:14:42):
Girl, let's go. Chris, thank call man, Thank you, and
you and your daughter that those have got to be
the greatest memory is you and your daughter. He she'll
remember that forever. That's freaking out, as will you. I'll
tell you where. He was spot on about every athlete
I've ever been around while they're under contract, I I
want to stay here for life. I love it here.

(02:15:03):
Every would be a little bit hyperbolic, but most of
them while they're here. Why every athlete panters at the
home crowd, You just do. But then and how many
times were got him and I want to be here
for life. You can be bought. Yeah, you want to
be here for life until somebody makes you a better
offer soon. Right, So that's the way it is. But

(02:15:24):
he's he's right. I mean, hey man, I'm I'm a
lifer here. I'm a lifer here until it doesn't work
out contract wise, and then I'm going to go somewhere else. Yeah,
And that's the truth is that's okay. My My problem
would always be if you're under contract and you got
three years left on a deal and you hold out
a camp and don't show up and you demand that
that's that's my problem. That's a problem. You're a free

(02:15:45):
agent that you do whatever you want to do, whatever's
best for you. Because I guess what, guess what I'm
not doing for Alex Bregman and neither of you, and
neither is one of our callers, and neither is somebody
who loved him and cheered for him. I ain't paying
his bills.

Speaker 7 (02:15:58):
No.

Speaker 5 (02:15:59):
Now, fans in a roundabout way help because of they
going to the ballpark. But the truth of the matter
is everybody loves where they are until something better comes along. Yeah,
And that's the way it's always going to be. Yeah,
So that's where loyalty ends and loyalties to something, a
little loyalty to the dollar goes. If it was within
a half a million dollars, then we could have the argument. Right,

(02:16:20):
they blew and you were on a call, great call
by one. They completely blew the metrics away. And I said,
it would be like putting your house up for a
million dollar. Let's say your sell your house for a
million bucks and the comps around the neighbor is between
nine to fifty and ten, twenty million, twenty five million, two,
you know, twenty five thousand, And all of a sudden,
somebody comes in and says, you know what, I got

(02:16:40):
a corporate I got people here would come do the
oil and gas business. And guess what I'll give you
right now, if you won't take any other officer, I'll
give you one point nine million. Give me a million
more than I'm asking the Constable of the water. That's
this is what happened with Bregmant. Yeah, it's forty million,
top six, you know, yearly average salary. And he couldn't
get five years for twenty seven million year, let alone six. Yeah,

(02:17:02):
so the point is is that, hey, man, I don't
hate him for it at all, but they destroyed any
metric that goes with Oh, here's the going rate. The
he went thirteen million, fourteen million by the going rate
for a guy at his level. Yeah, and that's hard
to turn down. Yeah, do you turn that? I don't
hate him, you don't turn that down.

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Speaker 5 (02:19:05):
We get that day off. It's a national holiday. You in?
I think? Are you in like Flynn and Ain't no sin?
National holidays?

Speaker 15 (02:19:12):
Are we?

Speaker 5 (02:19:12):
I don't know. I'm I'm asking. I'm talking about it's
a cool company holiday. It's a company holiday. Did we
get the President's Day off? Or is there some big
game Sunday we got to say we get money off?
Let's see figured I throw that out there. I mean,
the peeps are taking Monday off, aren't they peeps everywhere?
All right? Oh, we're in February. My bad, My bad,
February big. No, President's Day is is a federal holiday?

(02:19:34):
You ready? Yeah? I'm out? You're taking it off? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (02:19:38):
All right?

Speaker 5 (02:19:38):
Cool? Yeah, I'm in.

Speaker 19 (02:19:42):
Nice.

Speaker 5 (02:19:43):
Want you want to break down spring training more?

Speaker 7 (02:19:45):
I do?

Speaker 5 (02:19:45):
But not on Monday? Yeah? Like president, we go out
and celebrate our presidents. I mean we didn't. We didn't
get Martin Luther King Day Junior off.

Speaker 21 (02:19:52):
So we'll take this one off there, King Day, We'll
take this one off. It's federal holidays. Good all we
off Tomorrow's Valentine's Day.

Speaker 5 (02:19:59):
No, we're not off of that's not a federal holiday.
That's a that's a fraudulent Instead of fraudulent federal which
one you will, It's not fraudulent. It's really good. If
Alsie's Day's want the great holidays, for sure it is. Hey,
it's a great anyway, go ahead. You can't you know
you're not into that sled, are you?

Speaker 3 (02:20:19):
No?

Speaker 5 (02:20:20):
No, not at all, No, not at all. I felt
like I was going to see a bunch of Irish
dancers walk through the door before the last.

Speaker 21 (02:20:26):
Make that happen. Yeah, big in the Irish community. You're
big in the Irish community.

Speaker 5 (02:20:32):
Irish Italian dog. Does that mean you're bigger the community? Yeah,
Well I'm Hispanic American. I'm big at ESCO. We know,
we know. Starting to Jeff, what's up? Jeff?

Speaker 20 (02:20:47):
Hey, guys, how y'all doing this morning? Love your show?

Speaker 5 (02:20:49):
Thank you, I'm doing great.

Speaker 20 (02:20:52):
Yep yep. Things about mister Bregman. Uh, as we all know,
he notoriously has a slow stars every year. I'm wondering
if he's going to miss the climate controlled formerly min
it made part as compared to the cool weather in
the spring and Fenway Park. You know, it might not

(02:21:13):
be a big deal with him, but I guarantee you
it's not going to help him.

Speaker 4 (02:21:17):
Well, Jeff, let me let me uh, let me reach
you some stats here real quick. Alex Bregman's career swinging
the baseball bat at Fenway Park. He's got a three
seventy five batting average, He's hit seven bombs, he slug
seven to fifty, and he's got a hope he has
at twelve forty he's going to do just fine there.

Speaker 18 (02:21:32):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:21:33):
I don't know what he's gonna do.

Speaker 4 (02:21:34):
We don't know what he's gonna do with his slow starts,
but he hits way better at Fenway than he does
dyke In Park.

Speaker 20 (02:21:40):
Well, I mean, I know that. I've listened to all
those playoff games where he back a few years back
when he yeah, I know he hits good there. All
I'm saying is when it's thirty freaking you're.

Speaker 5 (02:21:52):
Talking about this the early start that he's struggled here.

Speaker 20 (02:21:55):
And I'm talking about the early start.

Speaker 5 (02:21:56):
Okay, the weather, That's what I'm talking I gotcha, my bad, Jeff.

Speaker 20 (02:22:02):
Yeah, And I don't blame him, you know, but I
think it's ridiculous Boston. How many other guys on Boston
are making forty million a year.

Speaker 5 (02:22:10):
I know they have some Well, Devers will probably be
their highest paid player right now, and he's just under
thirty five. He's the only one on that team making
forty mili you know, but.

Speaker 20 (02:22:20):
Hey, uh my opinion, good riddance. Let him go if
you don't want to be here. How much money do
these guys have to make? Anyway, I'll let you guys go,
Thank you, Jeff.

Speaker 5 (02:22:31):
I appreciate the calling.

Speaker 4 (02:22:31):
Well a lot, listening a lot, probably, Yeah, Rafael Devers
is making twenty nine point one million dollars Trevor Story
twenty three, Walker Bueller twenty one.

Speaker 5 (02:22:44):
Yeah, but didn't the front loaded?

Speaker 21 (02:22:46):
Was it?

Speaker 5 (02:22:46):
Didn't he make more upfront though? Devers? Nevers? Yeah, Well
hasn't he been over thirty at some point? Well, they're
not his average sellary, but he they get a bonus
or something that pushed him over.

Speaker 4 (02:22:55):
They backloaded his cond wehll I backloaded like the middle
part of it. So in twenty twenty seven, twenty eight, nine,
and third, I'll push him into thirty forty range, right,
thirty two thirty two? Yeah, yeah, still eight million.

Speaker 5 (02:23:07):
I think that name now with obviously BET's going, I
think the Devers is their highest paid player. I don't
think anybody else I'm trying to think of the roster,
your ten year, three hundred and thirteen million. There's your answer.
He is their highest paid player. Yeah, maybe the highest
paid player in Red Sox history. Gotta be right, I
would think you got to be it's got to be
him or uh Poppy probably never saw that money. No,
that's not that big of money, No way, David Ortiz Man, Well,

(02:23:31):
why do you gotta talk like that? What do you mean?
I mean triple and I call him David Ortiz, big
Poppy David or they try to get Chris Berman saying
the Raiders is okay, So how do you see?

Speaker 7 (02:23:42):
Man?

Speaker 5 (02:23:42):
That's David Ortiz Man?

Speaker 2 (02:23:43):
Who is it?

Speaker 5 (02:23:44):
David Ortiz? David? Or call him big Poppy? So that's
you see if you try to say it like well,
like like a white guy, you are, yeah, David Ortiz.
Yeah what is his nickname?

Speaker 6 (02:23:58):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:23:59):
Almost yeah, you can't do poppy? Yeah, big Poppy.

Speaker 4 (02:24:02):
The most money that David Orties made in a season,
fifteen point fifteen.

Speaker 5 (02:24:12):
And a half. Nows that for some person? I'm sorry,
sixteen sixty, my bad? Sixteen? Is that for some perspective?
For your yikes? What do you call him again? Big Poppy.
What's his name? David Ortiz what's his name? Not you
being like you're from Esco. Oh, that's David Ortiz. Man,
that's big Poppy, exactly poppy. Alex Bredy, Alex Breman going

(02:24:33):
up my peak? Man, How excited are you? Twenty twenty
five is a good year so far. That pic started
out good. I'm just excited about life, Brian. Okay, I'm
excited about life. Life is adrenaline, Brian, I'm excited about
what life is adrenaline. Life is adrenaline. When I get
my adrenaline flows just because life, all right, Brian, some

(02:24:55):
of us don't need drugs and stuff to wake up.
I mean like when you you know, when you do
blow before the show starts. Oh kidding. We are driven
by life, Brian, are we? I mean life? Somebody could
get you down, if you're an ass, he could get
you a little bit down. Do you know if you
knew it was coming.

Speaker 4 (02:25:13):
One of the big time millionaires or like big time
speakers said something over the weekend like during super Bowl,
not during this like during the super Bowl on social
media and talking about work being your therapy.

Speaker 5 (02:25:25):
Yeap, work is your therapy for life? No, the it's
not you. Sure it's not. I'm positive. We like our work.
I love our work, not even work. Good call by you.

Speaker 4 (02:25:37):
But dudes going into work in a construction site, that's
not their therapy.

Speaker 5 (02:25:41):
Oh no, but they probably they probably like being around
the fellows.

Speaker 4 (02:25:44):
Oh yeah, five degrees outside, hard work, no doubt, ain't
your therapy, dog. Yeah, we're just driven by what'd you say, adrenaline?

Speaker 5 (02:25:53):
We listen. Life's adrenaline, dude, we wake up to we
are adrenaline infused in our It's not our blood. Okay,
it's good. I go get a drip? Sure, would I
go get a drip?

Speaker 6 (02:26:03):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:26:03):
It's just adrenaline, that's all it is. We got to
go to break. Yeah, let's do it. That's that as
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(02:26:48):
in West Palm Beach. A couple guys getting on the
mountain today. Guys are taking BP.

Speaker 4 (02:26:54):
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Speaker 5 (02:27:05):
I love going to don't you love go to the
park and seeing BP?

Speaker 9 (02:27:08):
I do?

Speaker 5 (02:27:08):
I love it? Yeah. Man, when a guy when they're
just relaxed and hang out of the cage, Yeah, I
love VP, me too. Seven. What's up? Why don't you
like for adding practice? I love batting practice, free spirited, right, Yeah,
I like it. Yeah, I'm free falling. Andrew has happening.

Speaker 23 (02:27:30):
Well, it's a sad morning. I well, actually I was
up till probably midnight, one in the morning, so I'd
found out pretty late. But it's sad to see Bregman go.
But for forty million a year. I am glad the
Astros did not touch that. I mean, that would that
would have been a as a fan of Bregman, that

(02:27:51):
would have been a hard pill to swallow. I mean,
but I gotta be thinking, what does au Tuvay think?
I mean, he's got sitting there thinking and all his
friends keep believing him.

Speaker 5 (02:28:05):
That's a fact. That emotion, eventually, you think would take
its toll. But he's a pro man, He's overcome it before.
But yeah, you're right, that empty nest is now empty now.

Speaker 23 (02:28:14):
Yeah, I wish Bregman the best, But it kind of
makes you appreciate all tuve even more for not having that.
I mean, I get, yeah, he's getting paid, but he
doesn't have that greed that I feel like some of
these other players have. This kind of makes you appreciate
All two eight even more a little bit. But time
to move on and let's get the parade ready for November.

(02:28:37):
Late late October early November.

Speaker 5 (02:28:39):
There you go, here're the duck boats. Oh, I mean
that that was in Boston. Kidding, I'm kidding. He's right though.
He makes a great point the appreciation for Al two
vas through the roof. But you do got to have
this sense of he feels like home because there's only
a handful of guys in sports to Jose Ramirez gave
a huge discount to stay in Cleveland, and I sure

(02:29:00):
they love him for it. You'll never put Altuve in
the greedy category ever. You never will dead. On the
other hand, if you're a free agent, you've earned the
right to be a free agent. I don't begrudge you
for taking all for going to getting money, going to
get whatever you consider the bag you need. Al Tuove's
built different and it was more important for Altuve to
stay than get a little a few extra dollars because

(02:29:21):
if he was a free agent, al Tuove is going
to command a lot of money. Great teammate, great winner,
great player, great guy. What's not the like? Yeah, and
he's decided that if I almost feel like al Tuove
has a great appreciation for what it took for him
to get in the league, and he truly is a

(02:29:46):
Put it this way, the people in this town feel
about al Tuove as much as anybody feels about their
favorite son in any other city playing baseball. Right, That's true.
As matter of fact, I'm not sure if you went
around the league to each team and say, okay, who's
their guy, who's their favor I don't know who do
you name? With the Rangers, they don't have one right now,
right now, they're coming and go. It was Adrian Beltray

(02:30:09):
for a long time, long time. Was there for a
minute too. But you start to think over, well, who
is it.

Speaker 11 (02:30:18):
Here?

Speaker 5 (02:30:18):
It's it's jose Al TV if I said in Philadelphia,
who is it Bryce Harbor? Yeah, but that's a short stint.
I talk about the home I mean the whole thing.
I talk about the guy who started with him, stays
with him, could have left and didn't not jt reil
Muto because he got he went there after being with
the important I mean. My point is is that you

(02:30:42):
could go through all these baseball teams and our favorite
son here meeting Houston's favorite son. They love him as
much as anybody loves whoever their favorite son is any
city in baseball. Any I guess Judge now has become
that guy with the Yankees, right probably, yeah, But they
don't love him more than this city loves Altuve.

Speaker 4 (02:31:03):
I mean you look, man, you look just in history.
Uh Wayne Wright with the Cardinals, Joey Vada.

Speaker 5 (02:31:12):
With the Reds. Beloved and beloved Clayton Kershaw with the Dodgers.
Back for.

Speaker 4 (02:31:20):
Stephen Strasberg even though he's kind of non existent. All
Brandon Crawford when he was with the Giants, he stayed
there for a long time.

Speaker 7 (02:31:26):
Run.

Speaker 5 (02:31:27):
Uh, Charlie Blackma with the Rockies. I think he just retired.
Actually oppose he was their favorite son from because he
was there for so long and won an m v
P and World Series.

Speaker 4 (02:31:35):
And Salvador Perez he's only played with Kansas Royals. There
you go, Jose Ramirez, he debuted with the Guardians. I
think Salve is a big part of Kansas City.

Speaker 5 (02:31:45):
Yeah. But to me, of all those names you just
said for longevity and Ramirez, it's and less missing because
but look what Ramirez did. He took way less money
to stay in Cleveland. Like I said, that was if
you were ever look at for a guy who was
probably worth sixty million dollars more over the course of
a contract, honest to god. I mean, he took a

(02:32:05):
lot less than he probably could have got on an
open market. And and Al two Vey's that guy here
and he makes a gain. It makes me think Al
Twovey's the most beloved player in this in the history
of this franchise. And that's no disrespect to the guys
came before him, from Nolan Ryan to j R. Richard
to to to Carlos Korea, throughout through the Killer Bees,

(02:32:30):
you know, Bigio and Bagwell, I mean right on through.
You can roll through them all, Larry Derker, it doesn't matter.
This dude here is the most beloved after of all
type effort and for some of these reasons we're mentioning,
aside from the great production.

Speaker 4 (02:32:47):
Do you realize that Jose Ramirez has gotten MVP votes
eight out of the last nine years.

Speaker 5 (02:32:54):
I absolutely absolutely do we eight week seven eight when
you and I talked about it during the season. Yeah,
and then he got him again this year and played
great Basins again fifth in the MVP voting, probably because
he was in a smaller baseball market and what happened,
you probably could have get he probably could have been
higher on the list if he was playing in New York.
He to finish in the top three five out of
those nine years.

Speaker 4 (02:33:14):
He's been the Silver Slugger winner, six time All Star,
five times Silver Slugger winner.

Speaker 5 (02:33:18):
And he'll jack you up if you decide to message,
he'll knock your ass out right. I love him like
I love Altuve here and his but but this isn't
a dig at Bregman. I would have done what Bregman
did for forty million. Yeah, forty million. Yeah, I think that.
I actually think they had to wake up and think,
oh my gosh. If it was a late offer, there's
no way they expected it. Yeah, no you could. You

(02:33:38):
can't plan for that, No, no way, man.

Speaker 4 (02:33:40):
And you're if you take forty million, If you don't
take forty million and you take twenty five to stay home,
I was a dumb ass move.

Speaker 5 (02:33:47):
Then you're a fool. You are. I'm not going to
charge him if he's still comfortable here and his kid
was in school. But the truth of the matter is,
I'll get my kid comfortable in school at fifteen million
dollars somewhere else. Yeah extra, Yeah, no doubt they'll. They'll
just have to learn to teach him adjustment and adversity early.
I don't know what kind of adversity comes from forty
mili when it comes to the bank account. But yeah,

(02:34:07):
al Twovey is special and it's hard to put a
finger on just one major thing. The guy's been great.
He sure has.

Speaker 4 (02:34:14):
Let's get to the final segments right here on Sports
Talk seven to eighty.

Speaker 2 (02:34:19):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Salsa that's dutiful.

Speaker 4 (02:34:26):
Alex Bregman is now a Boston Red Sox. Talk to Andy,
final call the show. What's up Andy?

Speaker 10 (02:34:33):
Yeah, let's get this straight. If he has a career
ending injury, he walked away from one hundred and forty
seven million dollars.

Speaker 5 (02:34:44):
You mean from the Astros. If he were to take
that down, yeah, oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:34:49):
And you know what if you if you guys hear
a loud.

Speaker 10 (02:34:53):
Noise kind of like nails on a charkboard. That's Kyle
Tucker up in Chicago scratching his head going forty million?

Speaker 15 (02:35:03):
What did he signed for? What's this contract?

Speaker 10 (02:35:05):
Sixteen million this year?

Speaker 5 (02:35:07):
Yeah? With the arbitration.

Speaker 10 (02:35:08):
Wow, yeah, yes, that poor guy. He's got to be
thinking to himself. See, this is what happens when you
get when you get what's the word greedy, self absorbed,
It just tells you they want it out of the Houston.
That's what it tells you. Because if kl Tucker would

(02:35:29):
have went to the UH, to the owner and said,
give me thirty million for four years he would be
a Houston Astro. He would be guaranteed hundred twenty million dollars.
They just wanted to That's what people need to understand.
Tucker and Breckman did not want to play for the

(02:35:52):
Houston Astros anymore. So don't nobody feel bad about about it.

Speaker 15 (02:35:57):
They got what they wanted.

Speaker 10 (02:35:58):
They wanted out of Houston, which tells you is they
wanted out of a team who is what seven years
in a row? Hours at eight they won the division
title in the four World World Series and have won
two and I mean how many alcswers as they've been too.

(02:36:19):
They don't care about winning.

Speaker 15 (02:36:21):
It's not about winning with these guys.

Speaker 10 (02:36:23):
It's all about they wanted out of Houston. So any
fans that are upset or anything at Dana Brown or no,
it's all on those two individuals.

Speaker 15 (02:36:39):
Do you got that?

Speaker 10 (02:36:39):
A great day?

Speaker 5 (02:36:40):
Thank you? Any thank you? Andrew? I'd call him little
Andrew today, a little formal. Yeah, I mean listen, money,
he'll talk brother forty mil and bregnant had to take it.
Why wouldn't you. Yeah, Hey, it'll go on and they'll
win and the organization is always bigger than one player,

(02:37:02):
and he'll, I'm sure do well for Boston. And it's uh,
the emotional part of it. It'll eventually subside. And but
there may be some hurt now, but you can't blame
him for going and getting his paper. Yeah, gotta do it,
gotta go get the bag man, bag man, I ain't
I ain't mad at you. No, the suck he's not
in Houston. Yeah, of course, but the dude is making

(02:37:26):
forty million dollars. Yeah, one hundred and twenty million, actually
forty million. That's the least he can make over the
next few years. Yeah, think about that. Are doing a pinch?
Be all right, man, be okay? Yeah, congratulations to him.
I can't wait for tomorrow. Who best day of the year. Boys,

(02:37:50):
Valentine's Day?

Speaker 21 (02:37:51):
You got Time's Day, Valentine's Valentine's dayDay?

Speaker 5 (02:37:56):
Come on light like this is just Friday?

Speaker 7 (02:37:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:37:58):
What what?

Speaker 3 (02:37:59):
What?

Speaker 5 (02:37:59):
What's what are we?

Speaker 16 (02:38:00):
David?

Speaker 5 (02:38:00):
Tomorrow? You got a great name for Fridays, don't you.

Speaker 3 (02:38:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (02:38:03):
Tomorrow is yeah, uh funk funk of Delic Friday. Funk
Adelic Friday.

Speaker 5 (02:38:09):
Yeah, okay, sounds okay, funk care fun. Okay, that's not
really what I was thinking, or are you thinking then?
Just friendly Friday, Friendly Friday. Everybody's nice to each other. Okay,
that's that sure would suck. What that would suck? That
would suck. How do you think the fan base is
feeling a little wompy job? You know, kind of like wow?

(02:38:32):
What even though you knew it was probably common for
the last two months. You just don't know where or
for what price. But forty million a year, you don't
have to like sing kumbai al like you said, and
be all happy and but you can wish him well
he's not here. It's fine. Now he becomes well, he
quite frankly becomes the enemy on game days. But listen,
I can't. I'm not ever gonna begrudge anybody for go
and get paid, especially when they're free agent. Begrudge. Good word,

(02:38:56):
But I would have never expected it to get to
forty million out of saw. No, it's an overpay. Sorry
it is. There is no doubt it is. Judging by
the bat the last three years, it's an overpay. But
you know what, it's only an overpay to all the
other teams, to the Red Sox right now. They don't
feel like it, or they wouldn't have done it, and
they've carte blanche given him. Hey, by the way, we'll
just give you an opt out after the two years.

(02:39:17):
Go go kick ass and you can leave if you'd like. Yeah, yeah,
not my style. No, it's not, it is not.

Speaker 4 (02:39:23):
That's Sean Salisbury is our producer. I am Brian Lima.
Thank you for listening. We're back tomorrow morning, Friday edition
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