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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saul Salbury. Hod. Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
To usc troups longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthew excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury shower.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Straight's up as he comes set.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Here's the two too swaying in a mess, struck him
out on a curveball.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
That is eight strikeouts for Fromber.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
As the side is retired, tirrates hit three straight two
out of hits to score a run.

Speaker 5 (00:37):
Final seconds, no fouls to do.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Haliburton looking, Halliburton driving, pulls off.

Speaker 6 (00:42):
Jump shot, It's gone with three tons of a second
reverting time out.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Okay, see Tyrese Halliburton.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Don't it again? Oh one, that's d real deep down
the left field line. If it stays fair, it's gone.
It's fair, and it's gone.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
On second home run of the night for East Soak Parades.
This one a two run shot and the astros late
as eight to two.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Aesak hits his fourteenth of the year. Here's the two
kid me.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
Preserves the lead and eighties the championship series.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
And one gable piece the two round ball left side
charging pain You shortstop has it throws on the move
to first and that is the ballgame. Will a long
night at the ballpark ends in an Astros victory as
they defeat the Pirates eight to two to take two
out of three in Pittsburgh, the second road series win

(01:47):
of the season for the Astros.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
And what a hell of the night it was Thursdays,
So a lot of that while you were sleeping. And
we say that with away we go here on the
show on Salisbury shows Sports Talk seven to ninety. You
just heard Robert Ford tell you the final of that
Astros game that ended at about eleven thirty or so
last night. So maybe you kind of burnt the candle

(02:12):
at both ends there to be able to see the
end of that game, although probably after what was it
a three run inning there that they were able to
put up to kind of salt it away at that point,
or actually no, I think it was they were up
six to two. That's why Bray you pitched the eighth,
and then they scored a couple of runs there top
of the ninth, and that's when Joe Spott had decided

(02:34):
with Josh Hater to say, hey, go go ahead, sit down,
you don't need to get hot anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
You're good.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Got to help on.

Speaker 7 (02:41):
Helping Esac Paratis comes in hits a two run bomb
for a second of the night. At the end of
the game, Astros in general just played well. The offense
exploded there for that four run inning. You get two
bombs from Paradis, paying you three hits and a stolen base,
and then you're young guys. Look at Cam Smith, look
at Jacob Melton coming in and showing what the Astros
future is. The series win. You finally get out of

(03:02):
Pittsburgh after a Godfather Too length delay of three hours
and twenty two minutes.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
I actually looked it up.

Speaker 7 (03:09):
So if you would have started the movie right when
the Astros should have started the game, the movie ends
exactly when they did start the game.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Dan.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
Interesting, Okay, well, I mean, you know, first and foremost here,
where the hell are my manners you've mentioned? Dan, I'm
Dan Matthews, Ari, Alexander KPRC two in for Sean and tripley,
Emanuel Elmore hanging out with you this morning.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
All right, Intros are out of the way.

Speaker 6 (03:31):
It's kind of like, you know, like when you go
to a concert, you get the bass guitarist is playing
and then the lead singer, you know, on lead guitar,
it's so and so on drums, it's so and so
on the bass. And then you know they always if
it is, if it fits, and like somebody's from Houston.
You know our bass guitarist, he's.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
One of your own.

Speaker 7 (03:50):
He's a Houstonian from Hockley, Texas. Actually grew up on
a farm there. You go, yeah, well, you know it's
the old from Houston. Oh where are you from?

Speaker 6 (03:59):
Well, I'm like, okay, dude, if you're from here, then
you know it's what part. I mean, it was kind
of the same thing when I lived in Atlanta. I'm
from Atlanta. Oh really, well what part? Oh Cobb? Okay, yeah,
from the area. But anyway, yeah, so you mentioned it
the Godfather too, because that's the you know, if you've
ever been in rain delays, which we don't have them
here because of the roof for obvious reasons, but when

(04:21):
I worked in Atlanta, we had to deal with them
all the time. You can only watch so many of
the MLB Top ten lists, and you know, classic team
moment things that like all of the you know in
stadium entertainment that they will have. But that's a good idea,
is maybe next time if you think you're going to
have a pronounced rain delay.

Speaker 7 (04:41):
Just put on a movie like that, you know, you
should put on what Harry Potter?

Speaker 5 (04:45):
That'd be a good one.

Speaker 7 (04:46):
Long movies easy to get into halfway through or so.
Harry Potter is good because if you have an extended raindela,
you can get through, like start the second one. You
always start in the middle, right you ever, you're just
flipping through TV. You never see the second Harry Potter movie.
It's either always the first one or four, five or
six that's randomly strolling along TV.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Can I see?

Speaker 6 (05:07):
It's funny you mentioned Harry Potter because this is one
thing that's always really fascinated me about the franchise. Women
love the Harry Potter franchise. Like what is it? I
don't get it, Like.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
It's a bunch of good movies.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
No it is.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
I mean I get that, but like you know, like
my fiance loves it, shudder to say it.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Ex girlfriend loved it.

Speaker 6 (05:30):
And like I've seen like numerous other women like on
social media, oh.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
Harry Potter, and I'm like what, like what is it?

Speaker 6 (05:36):
Like this seems like it would be like you know,
the kind of the Dungeons and dragons like you know,
crowd like more of that that would be really into it.
A superhero movie like in any of the Marvel or
DC universe would work, although I mean, like with DC,
it's kind of like, hey, man, don't TNT me.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
I don't need to see Batman and Superman, you know,
for the for the ninetieth time or whichever one is
what the Justice League and that the DC version of
the Avengers, I don't need to see it for the
ninetieth time because I left my TV on while the
Rocket's Late Game was happening.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Here.

Speaker 7 (06:08):
I feel bad for the nerds because like Marvel nailed
it and have all these movies that have blown up
and earned some of the best selling movies of all time,
that have made a billion dollars and are kind of
part of society and how we talk, and then like
DC seem to have screw up every single one. Like
I'm not a huge comic book superheroes guy, but I'll

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watch them just kind of out of interest.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
And I watched enough.

Speaker 7 (06:31):
Marvel movies where I was like, all right, yeah, I
can get into the storyline here, and I'll go see
the next movie. Because it's just kind of entertainment, right,
So I tried to go see because you grow up,
you know, Superman is and Batman obviously, like Batman animated
series was great. When I was a little kid, I
used to spend the summers in Brooklyn with my grandma.
My grandma doesn't speak English, she speaks Russian, so she
doesn't have real TV. We had like six channels, right,

(06:53):
so the only thing you could watch as a kid
is Blind Date on UPN all right, or w B
would have cartoons, so we'd have like the Spider Man
animated series, the Batman animated series. So that's the only
stuff that you could watch essentially as a kid. And
then there's obviously the obvious daytime TV, the Maury, the
Jerry Springer and what.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
Of course I was never super into.

Speaker 7 (07:14):
Blind Date was good though many Yeah shout out Rogers
sports guy.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
I didn't realize that.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
I think he still is a sports radio host in
Orange County.

Speaker 7 (07:23):
They should bring back Blind Date like that was a
well made show, and especially too, like how like dating
shows are so popular right now, like you know Love Island,
Love is Blind, I mean one that was filmed here
in Houston, married at First Sight, which my buddy was
on that. So I had a friend audition for Love
Is Blind and she was excited about it, but she'd

(07:44):
never like been on camera or anything, and so she
just bombed her audition. They liked her, but as soon
as they're like, all right, rolling, we're on camera, she
froze and then she didn't make the show.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
I feel bad for her.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
It happens.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
I mean, look, you know this isn't for everyone, are you.
I mean, that's that's the one thing that I think
we know, most of us have come to realize in life,
is that you know, it's, hey, I want to do this,
Oh god, I mean, you know, it's it's it's stepping
out on a plank a little bit, you know, whenever
you speak into a live microphone.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
I had a buddy on The Bachelor too. He stole
my move.

Speaker 7 (08:17):
So if I were to ever be on The Bachelor,
which now is obviously moot since I'm married, But you
know how they come out in the first episode. They
come out in the limos and they have like five
seconds on TV to like make their thing. And some
people are ridiculous and they'll wear, you know, some absurd
suit or do something or whatever. So his move to
to try to capture attention. Immediately he spoke French. I

(08:39):
didn't know this about him, but he comes in and
like speaks French to the girl, and I was like,
that's my move with Russian, Like Russian significantly worse for
this than French. But I'm watching that. His name's Connor,
and I was like, all right, Connor, what are we
gonna do? What's your big move coming out of the limo?
And he just drops like a I don't think he
said vik mob, but he drops something in French, and
I'm like, no, that's my thing if I was ever.

(09:02):
I'm single at the time, and I'm like, god, like
three years away from being on the batcher, I was
gonna come out and speak Russian, but it was gonna
come out way worse than what you just did.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Why did you steal my thing? Like Vince fun you
stole my move? Yeah exactly, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (09:13):
I mean, look, you know, imitation is the greatest form
of flattery. But that blind date, that's funny. Have you
seen the meme that's making its way around right now
of Bob Barker, because you know how like it started
off initially as like a multi pronged meme where it
was the I'm home sick from school and it's Prices Right,

(09:34):
Young and the Restless, and then a bowl of chicken
noodle soup with saltine crackers.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
I haven't seen that one, but I've seen the one
where it's like a kid laying in bed like you
Job Barker's taking care of like yeah, yeah, Barker's like
rubbing their head like it's okay.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
It's like it's like this was my childhood. No, it's
one hundred percent what it was. That's where you know
you stayed home from school and you watch that and
then you know you were, I mean more often than not.
You know, as you get older, I'm not feeling well,
whereas like when I'm a little kid.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
I'm not feeling well. Well, you gotta stay home from school.

Speaker 7 (10:02):
Yeah, well, I never got into prices right. I was
a big Jeopardy guy, right.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
Jeopardy later in life, but that price is right, definitely
Plinko all of that, for sure. I never could get like,
I never could understand all of the stuff. When I'm
a little kid, You're flipping through channels and that Bob
Barker's great and the show's legendary, but I found it
as a kid a little hard to follow, whereas Jeopardy
is easy.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Man.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
You go up there and you answer.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
Questions about you take I was watching one category it
was like take a letter out of a musical or something,
and they were like absurdly hard, and finally they got
to the easiest category and it was something along the
lines of Matron Mama Morton. But she's Latino, and so
you have to change one letter in the musical as
Chicano instead of Chicago.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (10:48):
So I like I was, I was locked into Jeopardy
as a kid blind date. Give me Jeopardy and give
me Batman and take me pictures of Spider Man.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Okay, fair enough, I mean we all have.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
I mean, like for me, you know, the after school
TV was you know, teenage meeting Ninja Turtles, I mean,
and then later on in life it was VR Troopers
and Power Rangers.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
You want to know what mine was after school? Hey Arnold?

Speaker 7 (11:12):
Yes, Hey, I did like Hey Arnold, But as after
I got older, once we get into high school, you
get home from my school about three thirty every day.
Italian a shot at de Laurentes, Oh, interesting. I didn't
learn a single thing about cooking. Dan Oh, No, I
can understand that for sure.

Speaker 6 (11:27):
She definitely makes some good dishes though, so I mean
later in life, you know, you can appreciate that. But
you know, when you're a young growing boy, well you know,
it happens.

Speaker 7 (11:36):
So I met her. She did a book signing in
a mall. My dad's a big cook, so we got
him for Father's Day. We got him a book, and
we waited like three hours in line at the mall
in Dallas, and my sister and I met her. And
I was going to have some sort of again before
I met my wife here, some sort of like slick
line because I think she had divorced her husband or
something close to the time.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
And I wasn't that, like, you know, John Mayer somehow
like slipped his way in there or something maybe.

Speaker 7 (11:57):
But I was like, all right, I have one chance
to hit Jada Dolorenti, so let me see if I can,
you know, and I froze, I was just.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Nice to meet you. Yeah, yeah, I got nothing.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
Sometimes the best laid plans, you know, they go out
the window. Mike Tyson's line, you know, everybody's got a
plan until you get punched in the face.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
Yep, walked up there. I got punched in the month.
That's that happens.

Speaker 6 (12:17):
That happens. What can we say? But yeah, Ari Alexander
hanging out with us this morning. Yes, Astros eight two winners.
Last night Fromber was awesome, seven innings, eleven, K's NBA Finals.
You heard the Mike Breen call right there to bring
us in here to start the show. Pacers one eleven,
Thunder one ten, and the Women's College World Series sexist
text sending it to a winner take all game three

(12:40):
tonight after taking down Texas last night four to three.
But speaking of Fromber, we'll start things off this morning
with that. As you know, he just continues to go
out there, he continues to do what he do what
he does, and the price continues to go up.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
We'll talk about it right here.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
Sean Salisbury show, just getting going here on a Friday
morning at Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 8 (13:04):
Wear a mask, wear gloves, wear leather and chains. Reminds
me of that time I accidentally walked into an S
and M convention.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Hey, my back still hurts, would be good speaking of
back pain.

Speaker 8 (13:20):
Back to former QB Sean Salsbury on Sports Talk seven
ninety get Medieval ontom.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Shun me and you.

Speaker 6 (13:30):
During a break, we're talking about just how good Fromber
has been, and I looked up his game log.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Here.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
Let me take you back May the seventh. That was
after he gave up four earned runs in a loss
to the White Sox up there in Chicago.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Not a great outing.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
As a matter of fact, it bumped his ra from
a four point h to a four point thirty nine,
giving up four and runs in five innings. Again, not
great struck or what was it to walk to and
struck out six in that outing? So not terrible, but
at least for what you hope to get out of
the ace of your staff, not what you want whatsoever.

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May the seventh, the finale against the Brewers that afternoon
they're in Milwaukee. Seven innings, one earned run, and he
strikes out seven. The following outing eight innings, and that
was the one at home against the Kansas City Royals,
So two times this year he's gone eight innings against
the Royals, and he picked up a no decision in

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that one, but he strikes out seven at the Rangers.
He had that one bad inning takes a no decision
or actually no, he did take the win in that one.
I forgot about that because it was the top of
the eighth is when the Astros got their damage there
against the Rangers and were able to win that game.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
So he gets the win.

Speaker 6 (14:45):
So his last four times out, he has four straight
wins and he is five and zero during that stretch
of six starts where he has gone no less than
six innings.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Don't be surprised if he's an All Star. He's back
dooring his way into it right now.

Speaker 9 (15:00):
Now.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
He's just above three r at three zero seven for
the year. He's been pitching really well, and he was
rough to start the year, but he's starting to round
into form at a good time when the All Star
voting is coming out. I know you don't vote for pitchers,
but he's a guy that has been good for a
number of years. Since twenty twenty, he's been one of
the best pitchers in the American League. He's always somewhere
in the Cy Young voting, whether it's seventh, ninth, fifth,

(15:21):
and he's going to get into the All Star break,
maybe with a sub three era if he keeps pitching
the way that he does and some of the better
guys in the American League right now. The lower eras
the Tyler Meylee, the Chris Bubach's, those are not guys
that have been as good as they are for a
long time. There are guys that are hurt. Nathan Valdi
has been incredible this year. He got pulled recently from

(15:43):
a start, and they might have to limit his innings
up here soon. There's some guys that are pitching above
their weight, and Fromber was pitching below his weight and
now he's pitching at his weight. And I think once
we get to the All Star break, he's going to
be a guy that the numbers look really good and
he's got a good reputation. Don't surprised if from ber
Valdez is an All Star.

Speaker 6 (16:02):
At his worst this season, he was at a four
point nine to one er. Ever since then he has
been able to significantly lower it, and last night with
his two earned run performance over seven innings, it is
all the way down to a three.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
Point oh seven. He's just been really good.

Speaker 7 (16:18):
He's doing what he's doing because this is a platform
year for from ber Valdez. He is looking for a
huge contract two hundred million dollars don't be surprised if
from ber Valdez gets that.

Speaker 5 (16:30):
Brother.

Speaker 6 (16:31):
I mean that that is the that is the floor
for the deal that he is going to seek, at
least if his representation is you know, reputable enough to
be able to know like, hey, like this is what
my guy is worth. Because I mean, you look at
some of these contracts that some of these pitchers get,
and I mean, if you thought there was a time
in the NFL where teams overpaid for quarterbacks like you

(16:52):
paid what for Kirk Cousins. Seriously, two different teams have
done that. Now major League Baseball, the biggest fear is
not having good pitching. And I mean he's a guy
that when he's at his best, has shown you he
can be a front of the rotation guy. When he's
not at his best, middle of the rotation at best, well,
he posts too. That's the other thing.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
He is one of the most innings pitched guys in
the league. And everybody is looking for that now because
this whole league is about give me five innings. Throw
everything you have in the tank, throw as hard as
you can for five innings. Get me through the lineup twice,
and then we're gonna pull you. Fromber's one of the
very few guys in the league that is averaging six

(17:31):
almost seven innings a start, and you know he's gonna
give you one hundred and ninety two hundred innings a year,
not much of an injury history. Max Freed got eight years,
two hundred and eighteen million dollars. They're comparable. Fromber is
gonna go into free agency, just one year older than
Max Freed, with a cleaner bill of health than Max
Freed had throughout his career with the Braves, and the

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numbers are very comparable. Freed doesn't necessarily go as long
as Fromber. He's been a little bit more effective VRA wise.
The strikeouts are very similar eight to eighteen, and so
we know there's inflation with contracts. Yes, Fromber is a
year older, but we're a year later. I wouldn't be
surprised if that's around what he ends up getting, because

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those two guys are extremely comparable.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
And it's funny too that you just mentioned about the
age because Fromber's gonna turn thirty two in November, and
when you were mentioning Max Freed, I was like, well,
wait a minute, that can't be right. But it's probably
just because you know, was around him when he first
came up. But then he first came up in like
what twenty sixteen twenty, you know, somewhere around that time,
because I remember they had gotten them in that Craig

(18:37):
Kimberl trade from the Padres the Braves did, and I mean,
he's he's been around for a good amount of time
and fromber I mean about twenty twenty, I think was
when we first got him up here at the major
league level. And I remember when he first came up,
and you're thinking to yourself, Okay, maybe this guy can
round into being a back end of the rotation guy

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because he got hit hard at the beginning of his
career and then he started to really rely on the sinker,
started to rely on the stuff to get some ground balls.
But this year, I mean, it's not just the ground
balls that started to come as of late because he
got hit hard early on in the season.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
It's the strikeouts.

Speaker 6 (19:16):
And last night where he's able to pick up eleven
strikeouts against the Padres. I mean, that's another thing that
will also get you a nice set of papers set
in front of you with a check that has a
signing bonus on it to be able to get you
to enlist your services with another team.

Speaker 7 (19:33):
Yeah, he's a guy too that he can do it
in different ways. The curve ball has been incredible for
him this year. Is watching the first inning and he
looked so sharp. And when he's like that and it
looks like it's going to be in the zone, many
of them ended up in the zone and you still
can't hit it just because it's so tightly spun. Guys
are struggling. He's just ripping through. Obviously the lefties like

(19:53):
O'Neil Cruz had a hit later in the game, but
O'Neil Cruz can't hit lefties, and fromber made him look
really bad for most of those at bats. He's ripping
Brian Reynolds like these are legit good MLB hitters. Two
hundred plus million dollars, that's what we're looking at and
what that means I think for the Astros is I
don't think there's an extension coming from Fromberveldez. I think

(20:14):
that's extremely extremely unlikely, and I don't think they'll I
think they'll be involved, just kind of casual, like, hey,
we'd love to bring him back. I don't think they're
actually going to be involved because that price tag is,
we know, too rich for their blood, as we've seen
with the Kyle Tucker trade and how they've handled other
deals with some other players. But there's a team out

(20:34):
there that is going to give Fronbervaldez a lot of
years and a lot of money, and they're going to
be very happy with what they get because there are
just not that many pitchers in Major League Baseball who
are left handed, who go deep into games, who can
get the strikeout, who are one of the best ground
ball pitchers in the league. And he has worked on
and fixed many of the issues that he had early
in his career when he got hit hard. A lot
of it was step back, take a breath. There's a

(20:56):
couple of pitches last night where he threw got called
a ball quite clearly a strike. There was one It's like,
where did this miss? He was frustrated visibly, because that's
that's who he is, and that's fine. He just took
a step back, took a breath, got the dreads, you know, back,
just walk back to the mound. Strike, curveball, strike out.
He's good. He knows how to handle those situations. He's

(21:18):
managed him well. Every once in a while it'll happen,
because it happens to every picture. But this is over
the course of now one, two, three, four, five, six seasons,
where by the end of the year you look at
his stats and strikes out about a guy in inning
era is three twelve something like that. He's given you
one hundred and ninety innings and oh hey, he's sixth

(21:38):
in Cy Young voting. He's done this for a long
time now, and.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
You shudder to think about the scenario that you laid out,
which I mean, I think most Astros fans know that
it's a distinct possibility that this is going to be
the end of fromer Valdez and an Astros unique. But
you know, it's the other side of what we've talked about.
You know, we've mostly talked about on the negative side.
Christian Javier is still out there and probably won't be
here this year, but next year we'll come back. And

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he's a guy that you project to be a front
end of the rotation. Guy Luis Garcia, same deal. You
might get him back at the end of the season,
but he's probably going to be basically a bullpin game
type of guy. You're getting about three or four innings
at most out of him if you're able to stretch
him out at all this season. And then you know
was Nesky and you factor in Renel Blancos. So the

(22:24):
ammunition is there for the astros to say, yeah, this
is it, because it's not only them coming back. I mean,
we're gonna talk about Jeremy Pania at some time during
the show today. I mean, soon enough, you gotta start
locking some of these guys up. I mean, I've said
it all the time. It's like the children's book The
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all of the things from the tree, it becomes a stump.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
And that's what they're trying to avoid.

Speaker 6 (22:50):
But you also you gotta be able to replenish the
tree just a little bit.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
They have some guys in. I mean Melton came up,
He's looked good. But you do need to extend the
guys to keep the going. Paynya is a big one
from ber Valdez. Makes sense as to why you would
let him walk. He's going to be an older free agent.
He'll be thirty two in free agency and locking up
a pitcher who by the way has had a really
clean injury history up until now. Not the smartest thing.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
We know.

Speaker 7 (23:15):
Pictures get hurt. Look at Christian Javier. You signed him
to an extension. He got hurt. And I'm not saying
that's a bad thing. It's just the cost of doing
business with almost every picture. Corbyn Burns just left the
game with Arizona. He got a huge contract. It's just pitching.
Jacob de Gram got paid one hundred and eighty five
million and he can't stay healthy.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
And obviously he has been this year, which is good.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
But it's just the cost of doing business with pitching,
and you essentially factor that in. If you're Max Freed,
for instance, Hey we're gonna give you eight years and
two hundred eighteen million, and we kind of know one
of those years you might be out the whole year.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
Well, but we also know the astros. We'll give guys
in their thirties long term deals. We've seen that happen,
so I don't know, maybe the reverse happens this time.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
They come ahead and go, you know what, from her,
We took a took a look at your ol.

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Yep, you're getting the money here, here you go. But uh,
anyway from er Valdez. Awesome last night for the Strows.
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Speaker 5 (26:29):
Sheena, Good morning, Hi, good morning.

Speaker 10 (26:33):
So I'm just listening to y'all's talk about Fromber and
his contract, something that I've kind of been thinking all
all year because I've always been a big fan of Fromber.
You know, you can count on him not just for
a quality start, but to go to link go seven,
sometimes eight, sometimes complete game, and just his clean bill

(26:55):
of health. I think I've heard like over the past
three years, including posts, he's up there with the top
two or three pitchers as far as innings pitched and
all of them be So we know his contracts up
at the end of this year. We've got some guys
injured that are going to continue to be injured next year,
and then we've got I believe Hunter Brown's contract up

(27:18):
after next season, after the twenty twenty sixth season. There's
no way Astros are bringing both back. I mean not
possible with how Astros have run things. But which one
do you think is going to be more more in
line with the Astros? You know their budget they're thinking
to bring back if we brought back one. My concern

(27:38):
is Hunter Brown has Boris for an agent and has
no ties to Houston.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
I'm sure he would love to go.

Speaker 10 (27:46):
Back, play more hometown Detroit and play with Scooble to
see that, you know.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
So that's my thinking.

Speaker 10 (27:54):
You've tried to try to get the extension and try
to get from or back because I think he's going
to be the more realistic one to bring back versus
him and Brown. So kind of wanted to get Yall's
thoughts on that.

Speaker 7 (28:07):
I appreciate the call. Sheena, she in a great question.
So Hunter Brown is actually up after twenty twenty eight.
He is on his third full season, so twenty three,
twenty four to twenty five are his pre ARB seasons.
He's going to be an arbitration one in twenty twenty six,
arbitration two in twenty twenty seven, arbitration three and twenty
twenty eight, and then he is a free agent before
the twenty twenty nine season. So don't worry about Hunter Brown.

(28:28):
You still have Hunter Brown for the rest of this
year and three more seasons after that. He's still got
three more ARB years to go. But in terms of
who you're going to extend of the two, unfortunately your
answer is neither of them. And Sheena was right to
point out that Scott Boris is Hunter Brown's agent. Hunter
Brown went through a couple agencies last year and got
to his third one of the year by going to

(28:49):
Boris eventually this past offseason, and he is another guys.
The two hundred million is the number that I keep
bringing up because that's top pitchers are getting. That number
is going to be chasing two hundred million dollars and
potentially more if he keeps healthy and he keeps pitching
the way that he has as an ACE a few
years from now. But do not worry about Hunter Brown.

(29:10):
You got him for another three and a half years.
I don't think Fromber is going to be extended either.
I think it's extremely unlikely. Just be happy you're gonna
have Hunter Brown for the next few seasons. I think
it's very unlikely that Fromber is extended, and it just
not necessarily always smart to pay that much for pitching
because we know that these guys get hurt. And yes,

(29:31):
Fromber has been healthy for the most part. He had
that shoulder scare last year when they had to one
start bring up Blair Henley last season if you remember
in Arlington, but he has been healthier than most pitchers.
Hunter Brown has been really healthy so far, but almost
every pitcher gets hurt. Justin Verlander was healthy forever and

(29:52):
ever and ever, and then by the end of his
career he started to break down. Mac Scherzer was healthy
forever and he started to break down. And now obviously
his guys are going max tilt all the time. It's
harder to keep pictures healthy. That's why their contracts are
structured the way they are. They're super important, but they're volatile,
and I just don't think that you're gonna be able
to get an extension done with either of them unless

(30:12):
you go way over budget for Hunter Brown to make
it make sense for Scott Boris, but I know the
mo for Boris Corp. And that is get your guys
to free agency and get them paid as much as possible,
get a big number. I think that's what's gonna end
up happening with Hunter Brown.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
Yeah, the unfortunate truth is, I mean, you don't have
a bunch of Jose al Tuovas because for al Tuve
it was built in. He dictated to Scott foris. No,
we're not doing the free agency thing. We're not going
to test the markets any of those things. We're going
to get a deal done with the Astros. Make it
happen like that. That's how that goes. I mean, you
would like for that to be the case with many

(30:51):
of the guys here, but I mean you quickly realize
and these guys have seen it. They've seen it with
Alex Bregman, They've seen it with Carlos Carea, They've seen
it with a lot of guys that have been inside
that clubhouse. That it's like, Okay, it's great here, we
love being here. But at the same time, I only
get a finite amount of time to be able to
make the most of this.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
I've I've got to be able to do that.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
I'm shortsighting myself and I'm short changing my family if
I don't.

Speaker 7 (31:16):
It's a business, and there's a reason that people hire
Scott Boris. And I know there's a lot of baseball fans.
I would say the amount of fans who are anti
Boris would lean unsophisticated about the ins and outs of
the details. Because Scott Boris is not bad for the game.
I know he's blamed for a lot of stuff. And
I wouldn't count Houston as a small market, and I

(31:37):
know the small market people hate him.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
That's the reality.

Speaker 7 (31:40):
Like I'm sorry that you're a Milwaukee Brewers fan or
a Kansas City Royals fan or whatever, but that's just
the reality. If you were grew up in a bigger city,
you would love the guy. Like this wouldn't be an issue.
If you're a Dodgers fan, if your parents decided to
have you in LA instead of Milwaukee, you'd be like, Oh,
I see this guy at the games. He's great, he's
represent I mean, my favorite player making three hundred million dollars.

(32:02):
That's just the reality of the business. There's a reason
people hire Scott Boris because he is known to get
these big record breaking contracts. Juan Soto record breaking contract,
Scott Boris client almost every single one Is before CAAA
got it with Shohey was a Scott Boris client getting
the record. I think Trout is he's got one guy
who's known forever and ever, because Trout's a very special

(32:24):
case type of person. He's got one client, Mike Trout,
and then he had a record breaking contract. But for
the rest of them, it's Boris And there's a reason
guys hire him for that. Not only that because he's
made so much money. And I'm not just like shilling
for Boris here, but guys go to him for a reason.
He's got all of these resources, probably more resources than
the Colorado Rockies. Like I'm serious, They've got a biomechanical lab,

(32:47):
They've got injury stuff, like they will the second opinion
when guys go for Tommy John, Like, there's a third
opinion that comes from Boris Corp's own doctors and their lab.
And this is what we looked at at your elbow,
and you know, they got all their own stuff. So
he is poort resources, not just like a guy sitting
in a shed with a bunch of money, Like they
have a whole facility.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
Have never been out. There's one.

Speaker 7 (33:07):
It's in Orange County as supposedly it's incredible, and so
that's the smart thing. And I do think that that
blueprint is something other agencies will eventually do. Is like
you have your own place for your own guys, your
own biomechanics. So you know that because this is for them,
it's the same thing. It makes sense for teams to
keep their guys healthy. It makes sense for agencies to

(33:27):
keep their guys healthy. But the mo has always been
get to free agency, get them a big number, because
that's how the promise works.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
And it's almost like college football coaches and even a
couple of pro coaches if you have Jimmy Sexton and
if you're employing said coach and somebody else gets a
contract extension, Hey, who's coach so and so's an agent.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
It's Jimmy. Oh great, that's that's awesome.

Speaker 6 (33:51):
Like that, it's the dooming words for the ones that
have to do the paying and not for the one
who's going to get paid.

Speaker 7 (33:57):
And it works out with owners because there is a
real relationship built over a number of years. You don't
think Jim Crane knows how to deal with Scott Boris,
or that they've been in a room together.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
How many times.

Speaker 7 (34:06):
You how many guys are represented by Scott Boris and
the Astros right now, I think it's at least four.
And then you have some of the minor league guys
like for Kuci and Alonso Treadwell, like they deal with
him all the time. It's he's put up to be
this big, scary boogieman and it's just not true. Like
he just has a system, right, same way that the
Astros and Jim Crane have a system. We're not going
over six years, We're not going over this much money

(34:28):
because I have done great business as a billionaire and
these are my tenants that I hold to and it's
worked for me in multiple industries now, So this is
what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Scott Boris does the same thing. Well it's funny too.

Speaker 6 (34:41):
I mean it's you know, we were talking about jose
Al two vay and we can carry some of this
stuff over. But when he signed and they did the
press conference last year and Boris was there and Boris
talked with us afterwards, that's immediately what I came away
from thinking.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
I was like, oh, you're good.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
Like here he's up there talking about his Catholic faith. Uh,
you know, I go to mass every Sunday, and I
think the good Lord that I've got these good players.
You know that I'm able to represent. I'm like, I'm like, oh,
you know what you're You're turning.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
On the charm right now.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Stop it. Man.

Speaker 7 (35:07):
It's funny because he's I think he's in his seventies now,
I mean he's yes, he he's very smart. He's done
a lot of research about how to do his part
of the business, all these other little things that people
would never think of. They know so much about these
players about when they were younger. Ex Keep in mind,
a lot of these guys, it's like fifty to fifty, right,
Like they get guys from how they get the best

(35:28):
high school guys, and then they'll get them through the
draft and then they take a lot of different clients.
Because there's a guy Hunter Brown, good example, Hey, I'm
pretty good. I'm a fifth round pick. Oh it turns
out I'm a top hundred prospect. He had good representation. Wasserman's,
you know, one of the biggest agencies out there. Right,
But when you get a phone call from that Orange
County area code, this is Scott Boris on the phone,

(35:49):
I think you could be one of the best pitchers
in baseball. If you get to free agency, I might
get you two hundred million dollars. That's hard to turn
down given his background.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
Yeah, I'm convinced.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
I mean, you know, if I could throw ninety eight
and I got Scott Boris calling up my phone, it'd
be hard to say no too. Maybe the Astros will
say no to a guy eventually, And I wonder if
we're starting to see the decline just a little.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
Bit right now, we'll talk about it.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
It is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety This.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
So before we get back into the Astros conversation here
and carry it over in the hour.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Two more likely to happen. First, CJ.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
Stroud throws or Aaron Rodgers throws for the Steelers. I
want to say Aaron Rodgers throws because Stroud is super precautionary.
I think it's gonna be totally fine at the end
of the day, but they're just keeping a precaution on
him because he's got that muscle strain in his shoulder
and they know that everything's gonna be okay. Rogers is
obviously super stubborn, about everything, as we know, but like

(36:52):
you gotta go out there and do something right, like
you just signed with this team. You gotta at least
give him a courtesy toss or whatever. So that's gonna
be such a We're gonna hear so much about Aaron
Rodgers this year.

Speaker 7 (37:04):
I know we did last year because Jets, but like
the Steelers are one of the most iconic franchises in football.
They get more coverage maybe than they deserve sometimes just
because like they're the Steelers, and now you're gonna get
a guy who courts attention as much as Aaron Rodgers
is and there's this marriage. We're gonna hear so much
about Aaron Rodgers this year.

Speaker 6 (37:23):
It's gonna be an overload. I don't think there's any
doubt about that. And it's also you know, I was
talking about it with a buddy of mine last night
that's a big Steelers fan, that it could go one
of two ways where maybe the season's not going great,
and I don't see the Steelers doing this scenario, but like,
let's just say it's not going great Week ten or eleven,
you just say, hey, Mason Rudolph, go out there.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
Well we'll go to the top of.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
The draft and gets you know, I don't know, Kate
Klubnik or you know, Garrett nus Meyer, whoever you might
go after. I mean, people are saying Arch. It's like,
I think Arch comes back for one more year, if
I had to guess. But what I'm saying is the
quarterback class is much better season. So I think that
the Steelers did this with the express purpose of we're
not going to reach for a guy this year. Will

(38:07):
maybe be I don't know, I'm sixteen seventeen next year
and be able to still get a good quarterback at
that point, they could be higher than lower in the
draft than that. I mean, Mike Tomlin has just made
chicken salad year after a year after year with no quarterback.
I mean, Kenny Pickett not good like they've had these guys.
They've had no quarterback for a while. They've just had
to work with it and figure it out, and somehow

(38:28):
they're just like eight and nine or to nine and eight.

Speaker 7 (38:30):
Right, the guy doesn't have a losing record. They're eight
and eight, nine and eight in their worst years. So
if Rogers can be raw, you know, close to what
he was, obviously he's not and We saw that with
the Jets. There were flashes, but he's not what he
was and the rest of the team and the infrastructure
is good, like they could end up being kind of solid,
but that division's good. Like the Bengals, I think are

(38:50):
gonna be a lot better. The Ravens are the Ravens.
It's not gonna be easy.

Speaker 10 (38:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
As a buddy of mine once pointed out, Mike Tomlin,
you want to know how good of a coach he is.
He made Antonio round seems seane for eight years.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (39:02):
I mean, that's that's case in point right thereon Bell
and all these guys he's dealing with the most ridiculous personality,
had a full plate. I don't think there's any doubt
about that. All Right, that's our one hour two. Get
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Emmanuel Elmore here with us as the Astros win last night,
Late into the night eight to two over the Pirates
in Pittsburgh. Frommer Valdez awsome seven innings eleven k's NBA
Finals Game one.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
Thank you Tyrese Halliburton.

Speaker 6 (41:52):
If you are a Pacers fan, he does it again
in the final seconds against the OKAC Thunder. Sorry Tripley
and Aaron Rodgers. Gonna sign with the Steelers on a
one year deal pending a physical. Be ready for a
mandatory mini camp. But it's funny thinking about the Astros game,
because I was talking about this with you during the break.

(42:13):
I get nostalgic, and especially like early in the morning,
I think about, you know, oh yeah, hey, you know
this like the stakeout that's gonna come into play. The
nostalgia of it. Remember the old newspaper days where your
favorite team. You got up the next morning, Hey, let
me see the newspaper. Astros are playing in LA against
the Dodgers, and you saw late next to it. Yeah,

(42:33):
like that's what me, you know, giving out the Astros
score right there. It's like, okay, I am your new
age newspaper right there. Of Hey, howd the Astros do
last night? You know, you don't have to wait on
Sports Center because I mean, you know, remember sports Center,
this was pre the bottom line ticker days. I mean
you had to wait until you know, Keith Oberman or
whoever Dan Patrick gave you the highlight of the night before,

(42:55):
and you know you could see how the Astros did
in that game, whereas now, I mean you wonder why
newspapers are gone.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
Well, I mean you can just get on your phone.
Oh man, I fell asleep.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
How they do?

Speaker 6 (43:03):
Well?

Speaker 5 (43:03):
They won eight to two. That's cool.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
Yeah, you go to YouTube and there's a six minute
super cut of everything that happened in the game. I
mean things have changed drastically over the past thirty years.

Speaker 10 (43:11):
For sure.

Speaker 6 (43:12):
So the Astros able to pull off the win last night,
I mean it started off a little sketchy. I mean
that first inning you get the lead off double from
Jeremy Pania and then you see Paritis line out to left,
which I mean that's fine. You get Al Tuvey who
flew out deep to left center field and it's able

(43:33):
to move Panya over to third, and then Christian Walker,
who he does get a hit last night. But I mean, still, man,
and this is going to come into early on the season.
I was thought of as being a Taylor Scott hater,
and I said, no, no, no, no, no, you're looking
at it all wrong. I'm just hoping for better out
of Taylor Scott. I'm expecting better out of Christian Walker.

(43:53):
Like it's one of those. And I saw Ross though
this out on Twitter last night as an instable. You know,
will the Christian Walker or breakout happen? It needs to, Yeah,
it has to, and I think I think it will
at some point. He's just been too good of a
player for too long. And I know everyone said that
about Jose BRAYU Krisha Walker.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
Is the back of the baseball cut. You throw that
at the audience.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
They love that.

Speaker 7 (44:15):
Now Krishia Walker's younger than Jose Bray. You something will happen.
And the good thing is they're they're winning. The attention
isn't necessarily been on him. There's so many other kind
of storylines with the astros that are going on that
Christian Walker struggling, and he's's been better as of late.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
He's had some big moments, he's had the walk offs.

Speaker 7 (44:33):
He's a good clubhouse presence, and I know that's the
same thing with you know, Bray was a good clubhouse presence,
but he's slowly getting there. The good thing is a
lot of your other guys are picking it up. I
know Paradis had had a slump, but he had been
your best hitter on the team up until the slump.
He had two home runs last night. He's playing good
defense at third. He's kind of doing everything you're asking for.

(44:53):
Paradis has fourteen home runs already. He could hit thirty
this year easily. And you get that big part of
the Colets trade. You nailed it right. We know Cam
Smith is a positive player and right field playing excellent defense.
He was in a slump and he came out had
a good game yesterday. Everyone's a little excited about Jacob
Melton now, Josel Tuve is rounding into form. Jeremy Pania

(45:15):
is playing like an all star one hundred million shortstop,
Mauricio Dubon is probably playing a little bit above his weight.
Like everything is sort of okay, and then Christian Walker
is the fourth or fifth storyline in all of this,
especially when the team is winning, when they're back and
forth with the Mariners, half game up, half game down,
everything's sort of okay. Yeah, this isn't the one hundred
and six win twenty twenty two team. You're not running

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away with it. But last year they were chasing, and
it was a nightmare. He started twelve and twenty four
and Joe Spota had to deploy all his top relievers
constantly and by the time they got to the playoffs
they were out of gas.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
They're fine this year. This isn't an issue.

Speaker 7 (45:51):
So the Christian Walker conversation is just not exactly top
of mind. And he's slowly climbing. He is not below
the Mendoza line right now. He's done a few big
things lately that I think should help him build confidence
that his swing is closer to where it needs to be.
And yes, a breakout has to happen, because at the

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end of the year, if he's ops plusing eighty eight,
you're gonna be extremely disappointed with the fact that you
got him for two more years and forty more million.
So I believe it's gonna happen. It's gonna be really
bad if it doesn't happen. But I don't think it's
panic mode right now. Yeah, and now, I mean you
mentioned about you know where the record is. They're thirty
four and twenty eight, a game and a half in

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front of the Seattle Mariners who lose and get swept
by the Baltimore Orioles don't look now, man, the Orioles
are starting to look like what we expected. They could
look like, winters of six straight now eleven games under
five hundred. So trying to kind of do what the
Astros did last year and climb their way back into it.
By the way, as an aside to the conversation we're

(46:54):
having right here, you see the end of that Rangers
game last night, No, but I.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
Heard about plenty of gone to see it yet.

Speaker 6 (47:01):
So for those of you that don't know what happened,
it was a you know, I don't know if it
was base as loaded. I can't remember exactly, you know,
all the runners that were on, but you've got, I
believe a runner on third and a runner on second,
and there was a ball hit to the right side
of the field and it was a convergence of the
first basement and the second baseman Marcus Simeon Pitcher's not

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covering first. One run scores and not only does that happen,
then the second runner, Junior Cameronaro, is rounding third and
he comes home and.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
He scores, and they lose the game.

Speaker 6 (47:35):
As they were up I think three to two at
that point two runs score on what should have been
a simple out at first base, and maybe one run scores,
and that's in that scenario.

Speaker 7 (47:45):
They're just not collectively as good as they should be,
because when you look at their talent at the top
of that team, they should be awesome and they're not.
And it's strange because everything clicked for them in twenty
twenty three in their offense was just one through nine scary,
and I thought that was gonna happen again this year,
and their pitching was finally healthy, and you have Nathan

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Evaldi and Jacob de Gram at the top of their rotation,
and Tyler Mayley had been pitching amazing. They were the
scariest team in the Aos to me, scarier than Seattle.
Seattle has really good pitching. Seattle could be good in
a playoff series with how good they're pitching is, but
they just can't hit, aside from Cal Rawly, who was
awesome and might break the catcher home run record this
year because like he is, on a tear, but the

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rest of their lineup is not that scary. The Rangers
conceivably should have a terrifying lineup and they just don't.
And they should be a good collective team and they
just aren't. And I don't understand why you have all
these good players, the Corey Seker and I know he
was out and just came back from injury, and Marcus Simon,
who's having a down year, and you have two really

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good pitchers at the top of your rotation. Adolays Garcia
is having a down year. Evan Carter is coming back
from injury and not looking anything like the Evan Carter
that looked like in the twenty three postseason. Like White
Lankford is playing pretty well, but collectively they're not that
good and it's strange to me.

Speaker 6 (49:08):
Yeah, it's not going well, and they're five and a
half games back in the Astros at the moments, and
I mean they're not hitting well whatsoever. They're run differentials
minus three this season, and boy, they do not play
well away from Global Life field.

Speaker 7 (49:22):
They're nine to twenty one on the road this year.
Can't happen. You cannot be that bad somewhere right like home,
a road or whatever. You're supposed to care a business
at home, But why are you nine and twenty one
on the road. You have any good players that team
has or supposedly has that's I don't know if that's
a manager issue with them, but it's Bruce Bochie, so

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it shouldn't be. I think if you looked at Bruce
Bochie's career road record, it's probably above average for managers
who have managed for a billion years.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
I don't get it.

Speaker 7 (49:54):
I don't get why they're not as good as they
should be. They fired their hitting coach, who was one
of the prime reasons they won the World Series in
the first place. I don't know how he immediately became
the scapegoat. This guy was a huge reason why they won,
and suddenly they can't hit because of him. And I
know it's a big fire. The hitting coach, fire, the
pitching coach. No, we know it here, Yeah we do.

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You hear it here all the time.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
I don't get it.

Speaker 7 (50:18):
And maybe he didn't update whatever it was that he
was doing in twenty twenty three with the approach that
they need. But they're strange. I don't know who to
fire if I'm the Rangers owner, like why because this
is the second year in a row, and I get
the World Series hangover, but this year there's no excuse.
Your pitching is, for the most part healthy, you finally
get Jacob de Gram, who, when healthy, can be the

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best pitcher on earth at any time. Back Evaldi has
a sub two era, is potentially gonna be an All
Star if he's healthy. And you have all these other
guys back there. Jack Lighter is finally pitching at an
acceptable level. You just put Kumar Rocker on the il,
but he was pretty good at the end of the
year last year. You've got a little bit of a bullpen.
Conceivably the lineup's good. Something's wrong there. Maybe it's a

(51:01):
clubhouse thing. Maybe it's maybe they lost Nathaniel Lowe and
he was the guy that was keeping it all together
even though they traded him. But there is something that
doesn't work that should work better with them.

Speaker 6 (51:13):
Yeah, it's not going well, but I don't think you're
canna have a lot of tears shed down in this
part of the States. But the Astros, Now, as I
mentioned a game and a half up, Jiner Diaz was
a guy I wanted to talk about because I mean,
he man some of these at bats right now. But
we'll hold that over to the bottom of the hour.
And I mentioned about being nostalgic, Well, it happens to

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us quite a bit, and we'll let you know a
little bit more of what makes me nostalgic.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
Next right here, Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
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Speaker 10 (51:44):
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Speaker 9 (51:52):
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Speaker 6 (52:13):
It is a stakeout here on a Friday edition of
The Sewn Salisbury Show. Dan Matthews, Ari, Alexander KPRC two triple,
Emmanuel Elmore hanging out with US astros A two winners
late last night in Pittsburgh over the Pirates. NBA Finals
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ten over the Oklahoma City Thunder and Women's College World

(52:36):
Series winner take all Game three coming up tonight, Texas
Tech beating Texas in game two.

Speaker 10 (52:42):
All right.

Speaker 6 (52:42):
Normally this is when we break away from sports, we
do something you know, wacky and zany, like yesterday, for example,
it was Cole Thompson with me and we did the
good Night Challenge. Everything's a challenge, like you have a
noticed on social media, everything's some sort of challenge to
do some sort of dance or something like that. But
you know what it is, right, it's where you call
our FaceTime a buddy. Hey, I just want to tell

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you good night. What you know, especially with dudes, it's weird,
Like you knows. Megan, my fiance, pointed out, She's like,
you know, if I do it with one of my
friends that I talk with quite a bit, then it's
kind of like, you know, that's very nice, that's very
sweet of you. You know, thanks for checking in, you know,
all that kind of stuff. But like dudes, it's like
what especially too, Like I think you were in the

(53:24):
time we talked about calling and texting, and you know,
for me, it's if I text you, don't call me. Yeah,
Like I'm texting you for an express purpose of you
just right back. All I need to see, if you
are an iPhone user, is just ellipses right there that
you've seen it and you're texting back. Yeah, that's that's
all I need. Well, we're gonna do it a little
bit different this morning because, as I mentioned, nostalgia just

(53:46):
randomly putting all my shoes this morning, and I started
to think about sports theme songs and what you know,
trip this into my mind and we'll go through some
of the favorites that have gone in the past that
I'm just like, oh man, like that that gives you
the feels is the inside the NBA and and NBA
on TNT going away and it's just kind of a
reminder of like the great theme songs, like we're gaining

(54:08):
one back your your parent company, NBC. We're getting you know,
round ball rocks coming back. John Tesh. He'll be up
there with the with with the haircut on the keyboard,
you know, doing all of that caterer, yeah, with with
the vest you're right, yeah, yeah, look at like a
like like a banquet server right there of you know,
coming around making sure the water glasses are filled. Didn't

(54:29):
Sidekis do the bit with him on that oh him?

Speaker 7 (54:32):
And is a Tim Robinson bit by the way, went
back when he was like he didn't fit into SNL
And it makes sense why he didn't now that we
see all the success he's having doing the stuff that
he does. But that was one of his better like
an unbelievable one. And uh, the first thing that came
to my mind when you when you mentioned theme songs.
Was Bubba Bubba.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
Gave me a game in because I'm gonna dunk it.

Speaker 6 (54:56):
It's a lyric forward song that's like, uh, you know,
and you completely forget that Tesh, you know John Tesh
obviously the creator of a round ball rock was part
of Entertainment Tonight with Mary Hart. I mean, that's that's
that's part of the childhood too. Speaking of nostalgia, all right,
so got a few of them that were some of
the favorites as a kid. And I asked you, I
think during the break, I asked you this of were

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you familiar with the Braves on TBS? Yeah, you know,
with being able to see them national TV audience. It
was the same deal with the Cubs, much less the
White Sox. Put the Cubs on WGN one of the
best and you can find it, I think on YouTube.
Is it was the end of a game, and you
know how like T and T TBS, you know, dinner
in a movie, all all of that, and skip Carrey's

(55:42):
doing a read and he goes the Magnificent Seven warming
up in the bullpen after you know, so and so
grounds into the six four to three double play, and
sure enough, six four three postgame coming up next and
enjoy the movie.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
Now he's just smooth as could be. But anyway, that
just kind of put.

Speaker 6 (55:59):
Me back in the of those days, because I mean, yes,
I did work there for a few years, but I
mean even before that, Chipper was one of my favorite players,
even though he killed the Astros numerous times. Nineteen ninety nine,
Like I met Brian Jordan for the first time when
I'd moved there, and I said, I still don't forgive
you for ninety nine.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
And he killed the Astrodome. You yourself ended it.

Speaker 6 (56:20):
You hit the go ahead home run and then you
caught the final out Ken Caminetty lining out to right
center field.

Speaker 7 (56:26):
I still remember it to this day. What an unbelievable
athlete Brian Jordan was. Like, those guys that can both
do both football and baseball impressed me so much.

Speaker 5 (56:33):
Is so different, it's so hard.

Speaker 7 (56:35):
The Jameis Winston's of the world who played at Florida
State obviously, Dion Is you know the guy that was
really good at it, Bo Jackson of course.

Speaker 10 (56:47):
Bo.

Speaker 7 (56:47):
Yeah, well yeah, everyone, yes, everyone, Bo gets mentioned every
time of the greatest overall athletes of all time.

Speaker 5 (56:53):
It's deserved.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
I think he gets slept on.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
I don't think.

Speaker 6 (56:56):
I mean there was the thirty for thirty a couple
of years ago, but I mean out side of the
Southeastern United States, I feel like Bo gets slept on.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
I think it's an age thing.

Speaker 7 (57:05):
I think Bo gets slept on because nobody, you know,
under the age of thirty had any idea what he was.
But I think the older generator, the Facebook generation, Oh
my god, he's up there with Tony Gwinn and Greg
Maddox to the guys that get mentioned all the time.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
So I mentioned NBA on TNT. I mean it's a
more recent one. But I'm gonna miss hearing this. I like,
I seriously am going to miss hearing the theme song
being played and in the studio Ernie Johnson, everybody else.

Speaker 7 (57:34):
And there's so many things that come from It's funny
that like the Bad Rockets have one of the greatest
memes of all time from TNT inside the NBA of
Shack with Christian Wood going, oh, isn't familiar with your
wa you know.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
And so like, But being on there, it's it's special.

Speaker 6 (57:53):
No, And I mean Kevin Harlan Staple Center downtown Los Angeles.
I mean, it's all almost one of those. It's a prerequisite.
If Kevin Harlan's on the game, then it's got to
be exciting and he'll find a way. And I would
say one hundred percent less obnoxious than Mike Breen, because
with Mike Breen, if it's a big shot every single time, bang, yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
That feels good for your team?

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Man, he does. Yeah, it does.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
I mean, if if it happens for your team.

Speaker 6 (58:18):
But it's just also too it's like, hey, man, you know,
I know, you got a lot of different pitches in
your arsenal.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Switch it up a little bit. It's okay.

Speaker 6 (58:24):
I mean Kevin Harlan, I mean, it's if it's an
exciting moment and Kevin Harlan's on it, it's amazing. Like
Joe Tess on ESPN, great guy, by the way, but
it's sometimes with him, it's way too much like it's
just a twenty yard run in the second quarter and
he's acting like it's like the biggest play in the
entire history of the sport, and it's just like, dude, dude,

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back off.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Just a little bit.

Speaker 6 (58:46):
A couple of quick more speaking of college football. ESPN
and ABC have kind of brought it back, but whenever
I would hear this because for the longest time, if
you were going to get your college football, it was
on ABC and you would have Keith Jacks. But I
remembered that Nancy, my great aunt, Finally, at about one thirty,

(59:08):
said all right, let's pack it up. The Hawks kick
off against the Wolverines at two thirty. No, it was
Tim Dwight all of those Hawkeys. So I mean we
had to get home and watch the Hawkeys and Wolverines
and one quick one here to play us out. You
mentioned Baseball Tonight. I mean that just takes me back
of going going gone.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (59:27):
I mean I wish so Baseball Tonight doesn't exist in
the form that it obviously did. I wish ESPN, now
that they're losing MLB rights, would license the rights to
some of the stuff that they did with baseball, because
web gems should exist in the form that it existed somewhere.
I don't care if ESPN does it, but whoever has

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baseball rights, like, I'm surprised the MLB network has not
bought the rights.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
I would think they'd be the ideal one to web.

Speaker 7 (59:57):
Gems and put that on MLB tonight because just the
and the way that it happened, and going going on too,
like credit to ESPN for nailing it, for nailing the name,
for nailing the branding, for nailing the way that we
saw it, and whatever ways you try to copy it. Now,
it's not the same. A great catch is a web gem,

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no matter what, because they some guy in a boardroom
somewhere in Connecticut was like, eh, web gem, he nailed it,
and it's.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
Never gonna be the same.

Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
I mean, I can totally see Greg Amsinger the Anthony
Michael Hall of our industry, you know, And it's time
for us now, guys to hit the web gyms, you know, Harold.
I mean, you know you got Joey Lo Perfido leaving
the feature in Toronto.

Speaker 7 (01:00:40):
Greg Amsinger very tall. I ran into him far at
the All Star Game last year. And I don't, like,
I'm not a big I don't think of people as
tall or short, like that's not the first thing that
comes to my mind. But and I just had didn't
had never considered it whether or not he's tall, and
I ran into him. He's like six or five. Him
and Carter Blackburn.

Speaker 6 (01:00:58):
I always remember from the old STV College Sports TV,
which then became CBS College and now it's just the
CBS Sports Network. But so then when you showed up
on MLB Network, I was like, I remember that guy.
And then Carter gotten the run into him quite a bit.
Curvelle native Carter Blackburn does some CBS games college football.
So yeah, that's that's that's how I remember those guys.

(01:01:18):
But yeah, I mean, it just takes because it's also
you know, with inside the NBA going to ESPN, I mean,
it's just it just kind of feels like, I don't know,
like ESPN's product when it comes to games, the crowd
doesn't sound as loud, like it just it just kind
of just feels like tamped down to me a little bit,
like it's not as built up as it is, Like,

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you know, like I said, NBC, like, I'm I'm thrilled
that Major League Baseball might go there for Sunday Night
Baseball because I feel like the picture is clear, I
feel like the announcers hype up the game a lot more,
and I just also I just feel like that the
you know, the ambiance of the picture also with the
crowd noise everything, it's even louder like I I'm excited

(01:02:00):
about that possibility, not so much Apple or right, yeah,
not so much Apple TV. Well, if Apple TV can
nail the announcers and the way they broadcast the game,
they have the clearest picture, like Apple, the way it looks,
it looks incredible. It's just the rest of everything surrounded
because they haven't gone all in yet. And I do
think it's gonna happen at some point that Apple and Amazon.

(01:02:21):
I did for a long time believe that the betting
sites Good DraftKings or FanDuel would go all in and
get rights, and that just hasn't happened and probably won't.
But at some point, I think everything's going to be
just Apple Amazon. So these are the things that remind
us of our youth at a certain point, and it's awesome.
I mean, theme songs just in general for shows like
the only ones now that I can you know, still remember,

(01:02:41):
have theme songs other than reality TV shows, which that's
most of our TV now is Law and Order. They
still have THEIRS and then SWAT on CBS they still
have THEIRS and some of them still do. But like
for the most part, show theme songs the networks that
pretty much just said I just get to the content.

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
There's a few recently.

Speaker 7 (01:03:02):
True Detective Season one nailed it with their theme song
and they keep changing it every year. The Game of
Thrones Universe, True, there's some I think his name is
Remin Jawadi, the guy the composer for the Game of
Thrones song. There's a good theme song out there every.

Speaker 6 (01:03:18):
Now and apparently two people were upset with White Lotus
is a third season theme song. I mean it's all
pretty much the same thing. It's all, you know, like
that's that's all it is. So it's just like, can
you not just find somebody else to do it? If
that guy's walking off? You know who nailed the theme song?
And this is a great show that I think is
relevant now that we have an American Pope is the

(01:03:38):
Young Pope and then season two the New Pope. Unbelievable
job of theme songs. I have to check that out.
I'll have to check that out. But great job when
you're in there, Tripoli. So some of the sports theme
songs that make us think of our youth?

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
Mentioned JANR Diez some concern there and we'll talk about it.

Speaker 6 (01:03:57):
Here on the other side, as the app Stros do
win last night and now have a game and a
half lead on the Mariners in the West, as they
start up a series in Cleveland against the Guardians.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
We'll talk about it right here.

Speaker 6 (01:04:09):
It is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven to ninety,
the seven o'clock hour, seven ninety listener line is presented
by one eight hundred car Cash. And I said, no,
I never have, But I said, but I can almost
guarantee you it's probably a favorite of Matt Thomas said,
as a matter of fact, once he's done, let's let's
ask him when he's coming in here. Fanny be Tender, Tender. Yeah,

(01:04:31):
that's a real song. That's a real song.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
What is it about.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
I have no clue.

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
I've never heard Fanny's being Tender that is?

Speaker 6 (01:04:37):
That's what I'm thinking, probably some sort of you know,
I don't even know if it's dancy. I don't even
know if it's easy going, any of those things. But
so the payoff was finally Matt gets in here and
I was like, I was like, Sean, ask him the question.
And he goes, hey, Matt, you ever heard the song
Fanny Be Tender? And Matt goes, Yeah, it's on my phone,
so it's pretty much if it's a song that is

(01:05:02):
South of the nineteen eighties, it's a favorite of Matt Thomas's.

Speaker 7 (01:05:05):
Fanny Be Tender with My Love. I believe it is
the full song. It is Fanny parentheses be Tender with
My Love. Yeah, I mean I just assume it's it's
a high voice, high pitch.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
It's the Begs. So yeah, big tender with not not.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
You know how easy it is to hurt me? Yeah,
big tender with not not.

Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
Yeah. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 7 (01:05:28):
So I've never heard I hope it sounds relatively like that,
but uh yeah, no, I don't that's it. That seems
like a deep cut, right, like I know, like three
BEG songs. Yeah, that sounds like a deep cut. Well
it's more or less too, like you know, what's your
favorite song? And I mean a lot of times, like
with certain groups, it's like I don't know the name
of it, but it's you know, it goes this way.
I mean that's why I get made fun of all
the time by my fiance for shizaming. Yeah, because I mean,

(01:05:50):
like I hear a song and I'm like, oh man,
I love that song and then I and I don't
want to let it go, so then I shazam it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:57):
So then that way I know, so you know you've
got that going for you, which is nice.

Speaker 7 (01:06:01):
There's a big shazam meme that people of our general
age group got really mad about.

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
The other day.

Speaker 7 (01:06:07):
There's a younger there was a girl szam at the
bar on someone over the shoulder able to take a
picture of her phone. You could see her shazaming. And
the song playing was mister Bright's side, the white people
wedding ender.

Speaker 6 (01:06:21):
Dude, so tripley didn't he fit right in because we
had this exact conversation two days ago with Cole loves
the song and I've said that college college student sections ruined.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
It for me like Auburn seven Nation Army.

Speaker 7 (01:06:36):
Yes, seven Nation Army is an incredible song, but you
hear it so much during a Champions League game or whatever.
Real quick, while I mentioned white people wedding ender songs,
the worst wedding ending song I've ever been a part of,
say it so for us. For my wife and I
it was closing time, which I felt was good, and
she liked it because at Oklahoma State where she went,
they would play that to close the bars. So my

(01:06:57):
buddy got married a couple of years ago and they
played American Pie by Don McLean.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Is not going. So that's fine, that's fine, it's not
that bad.

Speaker 7 (01:07:04):
However, they did like all nine verses of American Pie
ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Yeah, so like nine minutes long.

Speaker 6 (01:07:12):
They thought everyone was into it, and so like at
the beginning, you're like, we're gonna end the night with
American Pie.

Speaker 7 (01:07:16):
It's like okay, sure, like that makes sense, classic American song.
And then it's like verse chorus, verse, chorus, and they're like, okay, cool,
like over repetition gets and then he kept going and
where now we're like in the sixth verse when they're
talking about like pulling pieces of Buddy Holly's ankle bones
out of the ground in Atlantic.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
Iowa, and we're like, what are we still doing at
this wedding?

Speaker 7 (01:07:36):
Man, it's like the big Bopper's hat was found for
eight yards away, Bye bye bro?

Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
Why are we still here? Dude?

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Land the plane, let's go.

Speaker 6 (01:07:46):
Well that's why there's a song, because they didn't well no,
that's the good point there Forridian slipped by me. But
maybe I could go free Bird for oursten and have
the entire version of free Bird, not the you know,
won't you fly free ten minutes?

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:08:04):
Yeah, well, I mean because you gotta have the beginning,
you know, because you have to build up for Jenny
to be able to go up to the roof of
the building and you know, think she's gonna jump off
in Forrest Gump where then it finally hits that part
going through all of that, and you know she chickens out,
and yeah, actually no, she made the right decision. But then,
you know, the funniest thing is too about it. I mean,

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when it comes to music and all of that, trust me,
you can get me to go many different directions. But everybody, oh, Jenny,
she was Forrest's love. I'm like, no, she wasn't. She
completely took advantage of the guy all throughout. She strung
him along his entire life. Maybe at the beginning because
she actually like gave him attention and was nice, you know,
because he was different than everybody else.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
But then as she got older, she completely just led
him on the entire way.

Speaker 6 (01:08:48):
And then all of a sudden he gets rich from
that Fruit and Company money and the Bubba Gump money
and she shows back up.

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
I guess it's a pretty common refrain.

Speaker 7 (01:08:57):
I don't think Jenny has a lot of sympathy these
days as a more critical look of Robert Zemeckis's classic.

Speaker 6 (01:09:03):
Because that's exactly what it is. She was definitely a
person of convenience for for Forrest, and it wasn't the
convenient to Forrest.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
It was convenient to her.

Speaker 7 (01:09:13):
It was part of the reason was to show all
the different tensions and things that were going on, and
they kind of I feel like Jenny got thrown into that.
I don't know if it's her fault, that's just her character.
Remember in San Lot, Bertram got really into the sixties.
Jenny got really into the sixties and the seventies. Yeah,
so both of those.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
But anyway, that's that's that's besides the point. Yeah, the
Astros win last night eight to two over the Pirates.
They're gonna get the Guardians up in Cleveland. Game one
NBA Finals goes to the Pacers over the Oklahoma City
Thunder and Texas Tech and the Women's College World Series,
forcing a winner take all Game three. Let's do the

(01:09:51):
Das thing next. I could probably even just hear our
program director right now. Hey, yeah, you tease the das
thing man, but you know, we're just having so much
fun with the Beg's and with Forest Ump and you know,
just going through all all of the different tendencies of
people like there there are there are internet theories out
there that in Karate Kid that it was actually Daniel's

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son that was the bully and not Johnny and not
Cobra Kai.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Cobra Kai was just he's trying to win.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
That's it. Yeah, that's all they're trying to do. They
just had a very like Soviet attitude.

Speaker 6 (01:10:22):
Yeah, because because Daniels sons, you know, swooped in and
got Elizabeth Shoe and you know all of that. I mean,
I I can kind of see it, but I'm still
a believer that that Daniel Caruso was was very much
in the right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
Maybe he just you know, he's a he's just he's
just a simple kid with a single mom trying to
make his way, and you know he's he's getting bullied
and picked on by the Cobra Kai kids. Yeah it's
not fair. Yeah, i mean all of them in their
in their skeleton outfits on Halloween, that's all it was.
He just was he he was putting to use at
a certain time, wax on, wax off, paint, the fence

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and and all of the different things that mister Miagi
taught him.

Speaker 7 (01:10:58):
You know, it's a good karate themed thing. Is the
episode of Hey Arnold where he learns karate and then
he takes it too far because the guy like stole
his bus passer or whatever it was, and then he
like feels bad about it.

Speaker 6 (01:11:09):
He Ronold's such a good show. Taught a lot of
good lessons up taught a lot. Yes, yes, it still
does for sure. King of the Hill's coming back to
so we got that to look forward to. But yeah,
I promise is we're paying it off right here. It
is the Sean Salisbury Show. What do you want from us?
It's a Friday right here. Sports Talk seven ninety We.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Want Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety number one.

Speaker 6 (01:11:33):
It's brought on by him with some of his swings
at some of these sliders, Like there was the one
pitch last night, and once I started to see Hobby
Baia's comparisons to the slider that he swung over that
was in the left handed batter's box, then I'm just like,
oh man, you are just not seeing it right now.
I mean, it's it's him going up there right now

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as a guess, not as an approach. This is how
I'm going to go after it. He did as the
game and on did lay off some of those pitches.
So I was like, Okay, maybe we're making improvements. But
to twenty seven at six thirty ops this year, all right,
I wonder if some of those innings on those knees
catching and you know, just the fatigue that can come

(01:12:15):
from catching in the general weardown that comes from catchers
at the plate, if that's starting to hit Yanrdas, Yeah,
it has an impact.

Speaker 7 (01:12:22):
That's why catchers have a hard time putting together season
after season after season of production. That's where you go
back one of my favorite, maybe my favorite player as
a kid, Mike Piazza. Not a good defensive catcher, but
every year like he was crushing and he was catching
one hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty games a
year and the bat was outstanding. And so that's why
what cal Rawly is doing this year is impressive. He

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catches a ton of games and he is just crushing
on offense. I won't push back a little bit on
Yiner though had a really good May. He was horrendous
in April, and that's why you see two twenty seven
right now. You look at his May stats and I'm
not counting the last few games that we've gotten into
June and I'm looking at just May two eighty three,
batting average seven ninety five ops, hit, five home runs.

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He had a good May. Like he's back, right, that's
he is what you expect him to be. He is
two for sixteen here in June so far, and that'll happen.
But he looks much different. He is liable to have
those swings. He just is, and I hope and think
that a couple of years from now that'll get coached

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out of him a little bit. And as he's in
the bigs longer. That was a big thing about Peena, right.
So what everyone says Jeremy Pagna outside Slider, Well, he's
one of the best guys at not striking out this year.
You can make adjustments at bat to at battle. Look
at camp Smith yesterday. Cam Smith is twenty two, and
this is so impressive because he's twenty two and he's

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played five minutes of minor League Baseball. He had a
lot of trouble against Mitch Keller sweeper yesterday until he
didn't swing and miss strike three. First at bat at
the SWEEPERA Keller kind of knows like, Okay, this guy's
twenty two, I can get him chasing this. Next that
bat gets him a sweeper swing and miss. He still
got one more tries to get him to chase. It
gets a little bit too much zone pitch recognition thing.

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He's twenty two and recognizes, Oh, he's got another sweeper
on me. I don't think that's a guess. I think
that's spin. Seeing spin coming out of his hand, waits back,
takes it up the middle because it caught a little
bit more plate than I think Mitch Keller wanted it too.
I think Yiner can do that. He understands hitting to
a degree that if Cam Smith at twenty two years
old can recognize, oh, they're pounding me with sweepers, I

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think Yiner can too. And the fact that he had
a really good seven ninety five ops for a catcher
is incredible. Look at around the league. You know what
good Francisco Alvarez was for the Mets in his first
full year and now he struggled to hit because the
knees give when you're catching. Adoie Rutschman is not the
same player as he was supposed to be. Catching is hard.
I think Yiner will be fine long term, and I

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think the good May speaks to that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:14:59):
I mean you get the outliers like Salvador Perez who's
been able to keep it, you know, up throughout his career.
But I mean even the Royals now, I mean they're
catching for me a ton more.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
You're seeing it here.

Speaker 6 (01:15:08):
I mean, you know, Jiner still is your primary guy,
but you're getting more Victor Krottini.

Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
Yiner is the DH. There's a little bit of a
you know, mix and match with that right now.

Speaker 6 (01:15:18):
And I mean you're getting more of jose al Tuova
at second with Melton being up here.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
So this is the value.

Speaker 6 (01:15:23):
That is why you need to have two viable options
behind the plate that can be able to handle themselves
at the plate. I mean, Kerotini has been probably of
all of the signings that Dana Brown has made, that's
been the one that you can look at and say
that is one that massively hit nailed it because it's
two years for twelve million and I think that they
should extend Victor Karattini, give him another one plus one

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with a club option on the back side, almost the
same deal. I'd say go to ten right where let's
say you pay him six for the first year on
one for twenty twenty six, and then you give him
a club option for four million or club option for
five million or whatever, even be six million, and give
them the same deal but with a club option attached
for that second year, because he's earned it. And I

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think that the Dana haters should look at that and
go this guy clearly has an eye for talent, and
he clearly to some degree has an eye for value
because this is one of the best backup catchers in
the game. This was an accident when they signed him
that he's one of their very few now left handed
bats because he's a switch hitter and they're so righty

(01:16:27):
driven now, especially with jord On out. But that ended
up working out, and that's a big reason why he
gets so much playing time as he does. But it
all kind of worked out on every level. No, it
absolutely has, and I mean there have been very few
misses when it comes to Dana Brown with guys like
him and I mean even you know for last year
what you got out of Taylor Scott. The proof is

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absolutely there. That's kind of what Brad wants to talk about.
Brad will get you involved in the conversation. You want
to join up talking some strows seven one three, two,
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Astros eight two winners last night in Pittsburgh, late into
the night there three hours and twenty two minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
Is that what you said? It was the raindo lay
godfather to length. I was looking this up last night four.

Speaker 7 (01:18:01):
I was gonna talk about it on the news and
it was like, what movie can I find that is
the exact length of this three hour, twenty two minute raindelay?

Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
And it ended up being The Godfather too. You know
what movie. I'm surprised it wasn't Avengers, Not Avengers.

Speaker 7 (01:18:15):
Funny people, that movie is so damn long and is
so much longer than it needs to be, And someone
needs to tell jut Appetitow to speed up the second
halfier movies. All right, the first forty minutes of every
jut appetitew movie quick, joke's fine, good, last whatever hour drags.

Speaker 6 (01:18:37):
Yeah, you have the fallout with them and the come
up of seth rogen. I totally get that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
I'm with you on that.

Speaker 6 (01:18:45):
Like it's funny too. Of Like, I heard somebody the
other day talking about a movie. I can't remember what
it was, but they were like, man, it was long.
It was two and a half hours. I'm like, two
and a half hours. It's not long, I mean, but
I guess now by like hour standards for movies, it's long.

Speaker 7 (01:18:57):
It's TikTok era man, Like, yeah, anything above fifteen seconds
is long.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:19:03):
No, Funny people's like it was like two thirty two,
Why is that movie two hours.

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
And third, it's the.

Speaker 7 (01:19:08):
Triple He's right, Why is funny people the length of
an Avengers movie? There are no superhero fights and funny people.
That's that's that's a two hour movie at best.

Speaker 5 (01:19:17):
So one movie get out of here.

Speaker 6 (01:19:18):
Yeah, probably you're not wrong about that. But Astros having
to brave through the weather, and you know it's funny too.
We've got MLB Network on in studio and they showed
the meeting that if you follow Chandler Rome or Matt Kawahara,
any of the Astros riders on Twitter, both of those
guys on the road for this one. I think tags

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is going up to Cleveland and they were talking about
the meeting behind home plate while the rain delay is happening,
and how demonstratively angry it looked like that Dana Brown got.
We found out after the game that it was Dana
Brown saying, guys, bang the game, like we'll we'll work
on a day where we've got you know, both of

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us have off days. We can try to fly back
up here play it. Then we've got to be in Cleveland,
which is a short flight from Pittsburgh. The Pirates, I
think their contention was to play it because the Pirates
are back home to night for the Phillies, so they're like,
we don't have anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
To go, what do we care?

Speaker 7 (01:20:15):
Yeah, Dana didn't want his ace fromber Valdez pitching the
rain or start and stop or whatever. I also think
it's really funny that, and this is one of my
favorite Dana things. He's such a scout because he'll say
publicly in a quote like yeah, I wanted to bang
the game. That's not like a thing that most people know.
It's a very inside baseball like super baseball term. Like

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every once in a while i'll drop one like fromber
Valdez posts right, or this guy shoved, Like that's not
a thing that's in normal conversation, and Dana will drop
in a media session casually like these very specific to
baseball scouting phrases.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:54):
Well, It's like I said last night with Mauricio dubon
a grounder that he fielded behind second, that he pimped it.
Like mostly you hear about that, like for the fly
ball at center field, you know center fielder, you know
kind of casually one hands it. Oh he pemped it,
like I had never seen somebody do it. On a
grounder where he just got it and he kind of
just stood up there for a second, waited, and then
just threw it over to first.

Speaker 5 (01:21:14):
I was like, Oh, that's why you're a goal glover.
I get it. Yeah, he knows what he's doing.

Speaker 7 (01:21:17):
But I always think it's funny when people will casually
use like baseball language like that. I loved it that's
what he did in his media session, because you want
to try to be as clear as possible, Like, you know,
he come in and go, yeah, you know, I didn't
want this game played or whatever. But Dane is like
full scout mode all the time, like this thing needed
to be banged.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
Yeah, you hear that.

Speaker 6 (01:21:37):
On the surface, you're just kind of like okay, man,
like what are we talking to? And the writers have
to explain what that means because not everyone knows these
like specific baseball phrases or no. He'll talk about Frombrie'll
be like, oh, we think it's a good picture because
he posts and it's like, not everyone knows what that means?
Man cam Smith this year the aircraft Carrier, where people
are like, what does that even mean?

Speaker 5 (01:21:55):
I didn't know that. I didn't know it either, And
see even Graham with the Astros.

Speaker 6 (01:21:59):
I mentioned it to him because I had had the
idea of that they need to have like aircraft carrier,
like USS whatever hats made for the Astros team store. Yeah,
And he was like, yeah, I'm kind of surprised. He's like,
that's been a popular baseball term for years. I was like,
I had never heard somebody that's a power hitter, you know,
called an aircraft carrier. It makes sense, but I just
had never heard it. They should do the you remember
the Hayden Fry hat, the Iowa hats with the little

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yeah the knowings on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they should
do that for Cam. I agree, I absolutely think they
Shouldow Houston, are you listening? You have a business opportunity here,
you know, there you go. There's there's always a way
to be able to market out there. NBA Finals, the
Pacers take Game one over the Thunder and Tyrese Haliburton
game winner yet again. Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers one

(01:22:43):
year deal. We'll talk about it here a little bit
in this third hour, but we've been talking the Astros again.
Seven one three, two, one two five seven ninety is
the number to get in. Brad you've been waiting patiently. Man,
appreciate the time.

Speaker 5 (01:22:55):
Yeah you uh.

Speaker 13 (01:22:58):
You mentioned how Milton Melton I'm sorry Melton would to
be traded for uncle Charlie. I mean, that would be
the worst trade and hit Astro's history. What if Melton
I'm gonna go to the other side. What if Melton
turns out to be the everyday left handed bat and

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replaces Altuve in left field, and then next year this
Brice guy that's turned up Matthew, Yeah, he comes up
and he's your second base, and what happens to Altuve?

Speaker 6 (01:23:33):
Well, I mean, now al Tuovey is going to be
here for the length of his deal. I mean if
that's playing second base, so that's playing left field. I
mean you've seen that they're willing to do that flexibility
in terms of I mean I probably did throw out
Jacob Melton out there, just because I probably did the
lazy of, oh, you know, they're not here outside out
of mine kind of deal.

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
But I did throw out the idea of a reunion
with Charlie Morton.

Speaker 6 (01:23:54):
For what you're looking for in the back end of
the rotation, the innings are not what they have been
in the past, and he's all has been kind of
a five to six, you know, inning type of guy.
But I mean that's that's more or less what I
was doing there. But in terms of just the overall
like player he is, I mean, are you're you're all
over that you're mister Sugarland Melton or Charlie Morton, man

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like your trade proposeds well either. Melton's been good.

Speaker 7 (01:24:20):
He's actually a little better in the big leagues these
early few days than I thought that he might be.
I could see him being a trade piece because there
are he's had a little bit more of a circuitous
route than expected because he's had some lingering back stuff.
He's had some other il things that maybe you could
flip him for something. But so far, and I know
we've had like four days of sample size, he can

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play and the tools are good. Like that's a big
thing that the scouts look for and the astros look
for with guys, especially position players. How loud are your tools?
His tools are loud. He hits the ball hard, he
can hit the ball the other way. He runs really well.
He had a thirty point six I think feet per
second on that infield single in his first game. Covers
a lot of ground on defense. I don't necessarily think

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that you need Jacob Melton to be your left fielder
as whatever kind of Altuve replacement. To me, he's a
potential Jake Myers replacement because he's a center fielder by nature,
and I think at his upper level he could be
as good of a defender as Jake Myers and probably
a better bat.

Speaker 5 (01:25:25):
Wow, that sounds pretty good to me. I'm I'm game
either way.

Speaker 13 (01:25:28):
I always like new blood and if Melton can do
he's the left handed stick. I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:25:36):
I'd go I'd wrong.

Speaker 13 (01:25:37):
You gotta keep putting him out there and see what
if he's a good, good player man, I mean I
wouldn't look at trade him. That's what you're trying to
That's what it's all about, not paying and having studs.
I mean, that's Jim Crane's thought. Keep him six years
and use the most you can at him, and then

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you don't pay him and let him go somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
For sure.

Speaker 5 (01:26:01):
Yeah, I appreciate the call, Brad.

Speaker 6 (01:26:03):
I mean, yes, see, it is one of those that
it would be hypocritical of me to, you know, mention
what I did earlier about you know, keeping guys like
Jeremy Paine everybody else. But then you know, hey, I
want to trade all these guys because I am very
much of the Casey Stern way of thinking. Casey Sterner
used to be on MLB Network Radio. He had the
famous saying prospects are parades over prospects. I mean, it's

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to the point here with the Astros where your farm
system isn't what it was, and I mean it's a
good thing because that means you've been winning and you're
not picking where you used to pick, so you're not
getting those guys.

Speaker 7 (01:26:38):
Woll The Dodgers went every year and their farm system
is still the top of the league.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
So there's a way that you can do both.

Speaker 6 (01:26:43):
Well, there's a way you can do both because the
way that the Astros have done it of just absolutely
crushing in the international market. Yeah, the way that they have,
and they've started to be able to ramp that back
up with getting some of that money back from the
punishments and everything else that came their ways. So I mean,
it'll be interesting to see how that goes from there.
But I mean I think more or less, like if
I do make a statement like that, like maybe I

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did I'm not saying that I didn't mention Milton because
I didn't know anything about the guy. I just knew
that he was oft injured, and I mean I saw
that he was hitting about two fifty in his career
down in the minor leagues. So I understand average is
an intiquated stat now, so maybe it is a little
bit of an old school approach to that, but that's
more or less what it was of And then also

(01:27:25):
too of that you just don't have much to be
able to offer in a trade, like you are going
to have to trade away some guys if you want
pitching at the deadline. That's gonna hurt a little bit
and probably earn some criticism on Astros Twitter. And so
what we saw last year in the trade they made
for you say Kacucci, And guess what. Kacucci was incredible
down the backstretch. Joeilo, Brafido, who I like a lot

(01:27:47):
as a guy. He is in Triple A right now
with the Blue Jays. Will Wagner, we know that Will Wagner,
he started super hot son of Billy. He's going to
be a utility guy that bounces around and is going
to be a semi useful player for a long time,
like he's gonna have a career, but you're not necessarily
losing this prime guy by trading him. And then Jake

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Boss is under the knife for Tommy John surgery this year,
So those three guys and everyone's freaking out, like how
could you clean out the system for two months? So
this guy that sucks, you say, ka Kuchi, by the way,
turned out to not suck, although he's not quite as
good with the Angels because the Astros I don't understand
what the Angels are doing.

Speaker 7 (01:28:26):
They watch the Astros have him for two months and go, hey,
do this, don't do this. And then the Angels paid
him sixty three million dollars and we're like, yeah, we're
not gonna do anything. The Astros taught him how to
do and he can go back to being the league
average pitcher that he was and not use all of
his gifts. And which is why I thought the Astro
should have signed him this offseason and paid him the
money because they know how to use him.

Speaker 6 (01:28:47):
HM.

Speaker 7 (01:28:47):
But that trade edge ends up looking pretty good. Dana
Brown again, it seems like he kind of knows what
he's doing, right, So yes, they don't have a ton
of guys. I do think Melton is tradable in the
right situation. But I think Melton is very necessary specifically
on this year's team because he's left handed. That makes
Bryce Matthews a little bit more tradeable because he's right handed.

(01:29:10):
I'm not necessarily here over like trying to let's go
trade this guy. Charlie Morton, I'll tell you right now,
is not a guy I would want for multiple reasons.
He's making fifteen million this year, all the back end
stuff is way down, like he could be cooked one
guy would look at if you want to trade for
a starting pitcher. Although I think other teams are going
to go after him, and the Astros are gonna have
a tough time beating out other teams for a package.

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Andrew Heeny for the Pirates, He's had a good year.
He's on a five and a half million dollar deal,
so you can afford him under the luxury tax, which
is what Jim Crane is trying to do. I think
there's gonna be a lot of teams going for Andrew Heiny,
but he's a guy that makes sense and the Astro
scouts have seen him. Came up with the Angel That's
why I think, you know, and maybe this is a
conversation we can carry into the third hour of the show.

Speaker 5 (01:29:53):
Is the trade deadline where it is?

Speaker 6 (01:29:55):
You just don't have enough separation yet with some of
the teams that could still be in wildcard striking distance,
that are willing to be able to part ways with players.
And that's why you know it's a buyer's market. You
heard that all last year. It's gonna be the same
thing this year. I mean, that's why you know we
made We were giving a hard time about Joel Sherman
the other day, santi Astros could be surprise sellers. And
my contention was, have you followed this team over the

(01:30:17):
recent years, Joel, Like have you been around them? Has
there been any trend from this team that shows you, ah, well,
you know what, we're gonna pack it in this year
and and you know, try it again next year. They're
in the division lead at the moment at the time,
they were half a game back, Like, no, they're not
doing it, Like it's it's a non starter, Like it's
a non argument.

Speaker 5 (01:30:35):
That you're making right now. He gave the caveat though
that Jim Crane is known to try to win.

Speaker 6 (01:30:39):
And it's full stop. Yeah, then it's full stop right there.
Like everything that you said after that doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (01:30:45):
I think the thinking is because they traded Tucker, they're
more open to a reset instead of a rebuild. But
he did do the caveat of like, well, Jim Crane
likes to win, and they're probably not gonna, you know,
do any of that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:58):
I mean, look, it's it's early June.

Speaker 13 (01:31:01):
This was the uh.

Speaker 7 (01:31:01):
I think he did that before the days of the
All Star ballot coming out, and now the conversation is
going to be driven by who should and who shouldn't
be an All Star, right but yeah, I mean we'll
get the rest of the division. The A's are playing
horrendous right now. The Angels are the Angels, the Rangers.
We've already talked about this earlier on this show, how
they're bizarrely not as good as they should be. You

(01:31:23):
really have one and a half teams that you're competing
for in this division, and there's no reason the Astros
can't win the.

Speaker 6 (01:31:29):
West now and right now they got a game and
a half lead in said division. So as you know
we do all throughout the show, the Astros are always
top of a conversation in Top of Mind, seven one three,
two one two five, seven ninety is the number if
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the most unpopular man in sports, well one for good

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and maybe the other one h who knows. We'll see
how it goes on that, but we'll talk about it here.
It is the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Let the celebration start wor Sean Salisbury. It's a Sean
Salisbury show.

Speaker 7 (01:32:08):
You know movie they showed us in Spanish class about
a girl who'd fall asleep at her desk and then
teacher would yell her name to wake her up, and
you go, Mareta Marta. And so I made fun of
it and I suddenly could roll my rs so in Russian.
So you know, I came to the US when I
was five. My first language is Russian. You roll your rs.
And there's a very standard word you say in Russian.
A lot just means okay, how to sha, It's just

(01:32:29):
like okay, good, right, And so I'd say that all
the time and I couldn't roll my rs. My family
would make fun of me rolentlessly, and so one day
I'm like sixteen, I come home from Spanish class and
I go.

Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
Hey, guess who knows how to roll?

Speaker 7 (01:32:41):
There are now so if you try to say Marta
over and over, I I just did it one day,
so I think it's doable.

Speaker 6 (01:32:48):
Yeah, it's like you know voice training, you know, actors do.
I mean, it's eventually you can get to that point.
Like it's it's always funny, you know, they always have
the Brits who play Americans and then you know, not
the other way around, and it's you know, any like
Roman Empire movie, it's always British actors.

Speaker 5 (01:33:04):
Man, that's funny. I didn't know that all the Roman
emperors were British. Who knew?

Speaker 7 (01:33:08):
Or there's a great Key and Peel skit about this
where they they have like a gangster movie they're doing
and it's Key and Peel and Peel or Key plays
a British actor acting as a like an American gangster,
and then Peel is like a guy who they actually
took out of the hood, who like really was like
a gangster in this fictional scenario. And the director comes

(01:33:30):
up and he's like, hey, you know, doing a wonderful job.
And he's like, oh, thanks mate. All the training that
I've done in Oxford is really paid off. And he's like, Peel,
I'd really like to see there's more gangster for you.
Just doesn't feel authentic. And he's like, hey man, I
lived this life. And he's like I just I don't know,
and he's like, oh, y know, maybe if you try this, Like,
hey man, I did all this stuff, it's great.

Speaker 6 (01:33:49):
It's like the actress that played Shiv and the guy
that played Tom, Yeah, I think she's Irish and he's
English because I mean he he does the full on
English accent in the newest Deadpool, Deadpool and Wolverine. So
you're kind of like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, Like
this is this is fourth dimension here, Like I had
no idea that this guy was British. And you know,

(01:34:11):
same deal with Shiv, Like I saw her do an interview.
I can't remember her name, but she she did an
interview and I'm like what, I'm like, no way, Like
I totally thought, like you you know, she was from
like Jersey somewhere, you know, just with how shoot, how
well she was able to pull that off.

Speaker 5 (01:34:25):
That show ruled.

Speaker 7 (01:34:26):
There's so so I've never seen it but I might
start it because I just finished The Bodyguard or Bodyguard
with Richard Madden. It's only this is the thing Simpsons
had one of the greatest jokes of all time. There's
an episode where Homer is watching PBS and they have
some British show on and they have to cut into
it and they're like, oh, the longest running show in
Britain's history, all eighteen episodes. Like I was so excited

(01:34:46):
to watch Bodyguard after the first episode it was so
good and I looked up how many episodes are and
they're six and then it's over forever.

Speaker 5 (01:34:53):
That's what they do.

Speaker 7 (01:34:54):
But yeah, there's Christian Bale, Like I watched American Psycho
and he's unbelievable in that movie. Hey, Paul, I had
no idea he was Welsh and then you see him
doing the interviews and he's got like the super you know,
thick Welsh accent, Like, how are you guys so good
at being American?

Speaker 5 (01:35:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:35:08):
You know me and you have talked before about, you know,
treating people a certain way. That's always my favorite. The
Christian Bale whenever, yeah, yeah, whenever the production assistant you
do that to method actors, man watch out for the
wrath that you're going to incur, because that's exactly what
it was.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
Oh was it good?

Speaker 6 (01:35:27):
Good for you hearing that, and it's like that's Christian Bale, Like,
come on, man, that that can't be him.

Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
I always love that part. Batman right, and he does
the you know, oh my god, where is you? Like
Huey Lewis in the news. Yeah that part.

Speaker 6 (01:35:42):
Yeah, well it's not it's not for the squeamish out
there if you're not doing it. I heard that too, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think Patrick Bateman is going to make a return.
But number get in someone three, two, two, five, seven,
ninety hashtros last night eight two winners late in the
night over the Pirates in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
They take two out of three in that series.

Speaker 6 (01:36:01):
NBA Finals Tyres Halliburton doing it again for the Pacers.
They're up one to zero in that series over the
Thunder and Women's College World's Serio is gonna be a
winner take all Game three tonight in Oklahoma City between
Texas Tech and Texas The Lady Red Raiders able to
win that game last night. Automatic balls and Strikes coming

(01:36:21):
to Major League Baseball in twenty twenty six at least
looks like it's gonna be that way. Rob Manfred telling
the Athletic that they're going to propose the ABS challenge
system for twenty twenty six.

Speaker 5 (01:36:33):
We saw it in spring training.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
We saw it.

Speaker 6 (01:36:36):
Mocked the other day when Taylor Walls and which, by
the way, did you see that Taylor Walls's wife put
out the video on TikTok of how do you talk
to your husband after he's been ejected from a game?
And it's just him on the couch just kind of
like shooting the basketball in the air to himself, and
she's just like.

Speaker 5 (01:36:52):
Hey, how is your day?

Speaker 6 (01:36:54):
Okay, that was great? Yeah, he had a legit crash out.
That was awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:37:00):
George Brett level.

Speaker 7 (01:37:01):
Yeah, I love the tapping, and I know they've said like,
you can't do it or you're gonna get thrown out.

Speaker 5 (01:37:06):
ABS is so good.

Speaker 7 (01:37:07):
I'm not necessarily talking about like fully make umpires robots.
I maybe don't even do that, but I think you
should be able to challenge it have a certain amount
of challenges a game. And I called Triple A games
for the Sugarland Space Cowboys a couple years ago before
they'd hired Garrett full time.

Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
It's like ten seconds, man, it's quick.

Speaker 7 (01:37:25):
They tap the helmet, they call in, they show the
little video of the ball crossing the plate. It turns
out to strike back to the game like it's quick. Yeah,
it's not going to add much more time, and it's
nice to see that. That's one thing he wants to add.
The other thing was too, is the media rights. You know,
talked about it earlier.

Speaker 6 (01:37:42):
NBC could be a possibility, Apple TV, which I mean,
it's more or less with Apple TV what we know
right now.

Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
They seem like they're in on it.

Speaker 6 (01:37:51):
I think I've even seen that Amazon Prime has been
somebody that could possibly join in on this as well.
But Rob Manfred also in that same story, actually, I
think this one was with The Wall Street Journal where
he wants to try to have the other parts that
were taken up by ESPN.

Speaker 5 (01:38:09):
He wants to have that wrapped up by the All
Star Game.

Speaker 6 (01:38:11):
It does seem like the All Star Game is kind
of Major League Baseball super Bowl because.

Speaker 5 (01:38:15):
That's when they do the draft. That's when pretty much
everybody is right there.

Speaker 6 (01:38:19):
And he'll address the media as you know, the state
of the league that all commissioners have to do, so
I could see that. I could understand where you're wanting
to put a deadline on this because deadlines make deals
and you want to be able to have that in place.
So then whoever gets it, like if it's Apple TV,
they can get with them and be like, hey, start
going after these guys like some of the people you have.

Speaker 5 (01:38:41):
There's a reason why people are doing the home and
away radio broadcast for it.

Speaker 7 (01:38:46):
Yeah, they're All Star Game is definitely one of those
because there's really three times a year where everybody gets
together four I guess if you count GM meetings where
everybody in baseball is together in one place. That's the
All Star Game, it's the World Series, It's GM meetings,
which are like pretty quick, and it's Winter meetings, and
that's when all this kind of stuff gets done. So

(01:39:06):
I'm not surprised that he's doing it at the All
Star Game. He's gonna give his State of the League
or whatever, you know, Rob Manfred stuff. But All Star
Games cool. It's in Atlanta this year. I know you're
excited about that. You see Media Day is going on
at the same time. Wow, Yeah, that's why the hotels
are outrageously expensive. I didn't think about a sc media days. Yeah,
so there, you know, everyone gets together, all the media

(01:39:27):
from all over the country and it's a cool little
three four days of different stuff. The prospects get to
play in the early part. I don't think the draft
should be at the All Star Game. I think it
should be separate, and I think that they should make
it more of a TV event. I get why it's
not because you draft a quarterback in the NFL, rookie
Mini camp, OTA's camp, He's a starter. Like, it's immediate, right,

(01:39:48):
NBA you draft a guy number one, Wembin Yama's on
the court, game one. You draft a guy in Major
League Baseball first overall, welcome to corpus Christy, buddy, right,
Like it's so, I get it. But I think that
the the way that the NFL in the NBA draft
has been produced in a way that it's turned into
this like massive event. Baseball can try that and see

(01:40:08):
if people will care. And I think if they give
them a reason to care, they'll care more. Even though
those guys are gonna be stuck in the minor leagues
for a couple years, or if you're Cam Smith, stuck
in the minor leagues for ten minutes or Jack.

Speaker 5 (01:40:18):
Tawny, Jack cagleone.

Speaker 6 (01:40:19):
Yeah, although I mean it does seem like they were
gonna mostly use them as a DH there. But you know,
it's the only thing is is last year, you know,
because it was up in Arlington and media Days was
the same it was in Dallas, so we were there
for both me and Gordy went over to the game
on Tuesday, didn't do all the pre stuff just because
Jordan was the only guy that was there. Whereas this year,
I mean, if it plays out the way that you're

(01:40:41):
saying could play out, yeah, all Star game wise, well
maybe that's gonna be a split squad. I head over
to Truest Park and you know, Gordy handles all the
locked on SEC stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:40:50):
Could be four astros I think in the All Star Game,
I think three are more than likely gonna make it.
And I think that Fromer could backdoor sneak his way in,
and the guys that likely to make it, I think
they'll play right. Like Tucker doesn't always really wanted to
do it, but he did. I think in la Altuve
never wants to do it because you know it sucks.
He gets booed, right, he's one of the greatest second

(01:41:10):
basement of all time. He's gonna be a Hall of Famer,
and this guy is to deal with that over Buzzer
never happened. He didn't use the signs stealing system. He
still gets booed. It sucks and you'red on just not
an attention guy, and so he was. He had to
be convinced to do it and do all this stuff
last year. You're not gonna have that problem this year
because he's hurt and he's barely played, and when he's played,

(01:41:30):
he hasn't been as good as he usually is. So
he's not gonna have to deal with that. But I
think the guys that I believe will be All Stars
or can be All Stars from Valdez will do the stuff.
Hunter Brown would be his first time and he'd be
excited to do it. Jeremy Paine, I think would be
happy to do whatever, and then Josh Hater, I think
would be happy to do whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:41:48):
Yeah, Well, here's hope and the Astros have a large
contingent there in Atlanta this year for the Midsummer Classic.
Someone three two, one, two, five seven ninety is the
number two get in. And I've talked about this storyline
with the twenty twenty five astros numerous times played out
last night. We'll explain what we mean right here as
we continue to roll along on the Seawan Salisbury Show
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
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Speaker 6 (01:42:11):
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Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
Good morning, Brandon, Good morning.

Speaker 5 (01:42:19):
I was wstling to it. I was in ben Okay, So, I.

Speaker 6 (01:42:22):
Mean you stayed up for as much as you could,
and you were able to kept catch Fromber doing his
thing and East Soak parrettis doing his thing, camp Smith
doing his thing, so.

Speaker 5 (01:42:34):
A lot.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
Did you see what.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
Twitas is dead tide.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
It say that again?

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
He tied the game?

Speaker 6 (01:42:46):
Yeah, Paratis? Okay, Yeah, I thought you said somebody else's name.

Speaker 10 (01:42:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:42:50):
No, the home runn he hit? Yeah, no, absolutely, you
got it all.

Speaker 10 (01:42:56):
And then.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
Hey, I almost try to break it.

Speaker 5 (01:43:02):
Yeah no, I mean that's that's for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:43:05):
You know the sure way that you can be able
to make sure you get one out is send it
Minnie Rose deep and then he did it again later
in the game, assaulted away.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Yep, Kyle's Womber and Steve doing They're great man.

Speaker 5 (01:43:20):
What was it?

Speaker 6 (01:43:21):
We had Steve on on Monday, and Steve said that
his son was making his way up for the trip.
I know that they went to Primanny Brothers up there,
which is really good sandwiches there in Pittsburgh. And then
I think they were part of the team that went
over to the Roberto Clemente Museum on that off day
Monday night.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
So Sparky's doing great. Robert, you know how he is.

Speaker 6 (01:43:41):
See you later, kiss it, goodbye, all of those things.
You know what Robert brings you.

Speaker 5 (01:43:47):
Yeah, for sure, Well I know you.

Speaker 6 (01:43:49):
I know you're gonna be listening this weekend. I know
you're gonna be playing the game, doing all those different things.
Have a great weekend, and we'll catch up with you
on Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
All right, have a good weekend, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:43:59):
See you and Robert.

Speaker 6 (01:44:01):
You can always in the thing too that I've said
that is underrated when it comes to Robert Ford on
his calls, the opposing home runs is just the dejection
where it's like deep to left and it's gone like
it's it's almost kind of like like Matt Thomas used
to do with, you know, the opposing teams when he
was the PA guy over at Toyota Center.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
Of course, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:44:24):
James Harden, James Marden, whereas you know Lebron James, Lebron James. Yeah,
you know that's that's you gotta let the you gotta
let the crowd know. Screw impartiality, man, screw it. I
need Robert to bring back his immaculate grids. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:44:39):
He is scary good. He has fallen off on that
he has that was like one of his motifs.

Speaker 7 (01:44:44):
He's so good at it, and like, I think I'm
good at it, and then I see the guys that
he's dropping, like the zero point zero one percent nineteen
sixties guys.

Speaker 5 (01:44:52):
It's so impressive.

Speaker 6 (01:44:53):
Well it's it's not only that. I mean you kind
of have your own niche yourself. I mean where you're
going with the beat the streak and yeah you've been
well not anymore. I lost my twenty one game streak.
I do love some beat the streak. I got it
last night though. I had someone was like, Ahmed Rosario,
what are you doing? Hey, crush his lefties? And Amed
Rosario got his hit and yeah, there you go, crushed

(01:45:15):
the lefties, crushed the lefty. Yeah, it's all it's always
good when you could be known for for packing on
the winners right there. You know of the locks, you know,
like Jimmy Yacht is a guy that does radio over
in Baton Rouge and he's got the Otter locks. They
call him the at Father nice and you know, he
always posts his plays and one of them last night
was the Astros. And being able to get that run

(01:45:36):
line is usually a tough one to be able to
pick because it's that one and a half and so
many games are determined by one run. But he had
the Yankees and the Guardians and then he also had
taken the Pacers last night, so and I think what
was it. I think he took Giants money line against
the Pods, So he got that. So there you go,
shout out to the at Father. I don't mess with money.

Speaker 7 (01:45:57):
Earth run lines, man, run lines are hard and baseball
all my favorite ones if I were a betting man.

Speaker 5 (01:46:02):
If if I were a betting man.

Speaker 7 (01:46:04):
Is either to parlay two guys two different guys to
get a hit, or you pick your one guy that
you're most confident in to get two hits.

Speaker 5 (01:46:12):
And those are usually pretty decent hos.

Speaker 6 (01:46:13):
One of my favorite things to do is whenever something
happens and Astro grounds into a double play or you know,
bad strikeout, whatever it is. It's a terrible thing to do,
but I do it is to search Twitter for their name,
and Christian Walker is one that Astro's Twitter. Obviously they
get frustrated with him at times. It's a lot of
gamblers with Christian Walker, which well, I mean we saw

(01:46:35):
that play out here, but that's another story. But with Walker,
it's always, you know, with whatever the one and a
half runs hits air, you know, runs hits whatever. The
other one is yeah, yeah, that you can have for that,
And it's always I'm never betting Christian Walker again. I'm
just like, Okay, then don't. Yeah, then don't. Man.

Speaker 7 (01:46:54):
I've had some guys in my DFS lineups like I'm
never gonna put Divine and a DFS lineup ever again.

Speaker 5 (01:47:02):
But like, am I gonna tweet a Devon.

Speaker 7 (01:47:05):
Vley and be like, hey, man, I bet my life
savings on you having five plus catches.

Speaker 5 (01:47:11):
You ruined my life? Well you think Devon Vley cares?

Speaker 6 (01:47:14):
Now, that's like the drunk gambler with you know, with Lance,
it's just like okay, dude, Like first of all, you're
telling me what your gambling chops are. Not if you're
betting on the guy who just made his first start
in two years and only went four innings and he
didn't give up any runs, I'll give him that. But
his second start in that time, and you're placing money

(01:47:35):
on the guy, that's that's more on you, it's not
on him.

Speaker 7 (01:47:37):
I love that he's overseas and I want to know
what eventually, and maybe we'll find out what country is from.
And I hope it's like a really random one that
you would never expect to be betting on baseball.

Speaker 6 (01:47:48):
I mean you gotta wonder, like, are police reports or
I mean cause you gotta believe some sort of police
report was taken or are they public record? And if
they are and you find out the identity, wouldn't that
be a great project of you go find him? Hey, dude,
what the hell's your problem?

Speaker 5 (01:48:01):
Yeah? You know, you just get them coming out of
Danang or somewhere over there.

Speaker 7 (01:48:05):
Guy in Estonia, he's just sitting there like, man, you
know what I'm gonna do today in Estonia. I'm gonna
bet on Lance mccullor's junior having a good game I
don't know why I know who he is because I'm
in Estonia and then like, Lance mccullor's ruins some Estonian's life,
and he's just like.

Speaker 6 (01:48:21):
I have access to Twitter. I'm going to tell his kids,
you know, like come on, ye, No, it's a bad look.
There's no doubt about it. And glad that there was
some sort of conclusion to it, and it had a
good conclusion to it, and Lance talked about that a
little bit the other night. So we're glad to and
we're also glad to have Lance mccullor's pitching the way
that he has these last few games.

Speaker 5 (01:48:40):
That's that's nice to see again. Yeah, I mean you're.

Speaker 7 (01:48:42):
Gonna be First of all, I'm sort of glad that
it it ended up the way that it did, in
that we know that this guy is far far away
overseas implies there's an ocean between him and mccullors. He
was regretful and wanted to apologize and all that. I mean,
what he did is absolutely unacceptable, But in terms of

(01:49:03):
a present danger situation, I'm glad that Lance mccullor's is
not in dangerous mind. And yeah, and it sucks that
he had to deal with that, and he had to
get twenty four hour security because it is scary and
it's not something that he should or any athlete. I
know Liam Hendricks had something that came up recently similar
that those guys should have to deal with. But the
result being that this guy's far far away and feels

(01:49:24):
bad about it is a much better result than other results.

Speaker 6 (01:49:27):
Absolutely, we will always like having happy endings to stories,
that is for sure. Let's get into something rockets related
because I saw something that came out yesterday that almost
makes me wonder if the hand is being tipped with
rafel Stone in the crew over there. We'll talk about
to close out the third hour of the show. It

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Speaker 5 (01:50:09):
And I'm like, you know I hear all about Kennedy?
Is that how you say your name? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:50:13):
I mean, is you know you hear all about her?

Speaker 6 (01:50:15):
But I'm like, this is gonna be tough to be
able to wiggle out of and she's able to get
an ounce or no, she got the sacrifice fly to left.
They keep the runner at second. Then the next hitter
for Texas, who is I guess their lead off hitter
just did like the little not even a drag bunt,
just like kind of like a little like half swing,
little tapper. Third third baseman gets it, throws it over

(01:50:37):
first runner gets the third, then she gets the strikeout
to end it, and I was like, this is pretty exciting.
Like my brother and sister in law are massive longhorns
and they've got three little girls, so I'm like, you'll
have to be watching this, right They're like, oh, yeah, absolutely,
we're watching this. And my brother played college baseball and
people have always oh, they're gonna play softball, and he's like,
I don't really know if I want him to. I mean,

(01:50:57):
if they want to, sure, but yeah, they've been watching it.
So's it's entertaining TV to say the least. Softball is
great because it's also fast. Like I used to cover
Arizona baseball and Arizona softball, and the Arizona baseball coach
at the time was Jay Johnson, now at LSU and
Jay Johnson is the longest.

Speaker 7 (01:51:17):
Game manager ever. Every game takes four and a half hours.
Having watched plenty of LSU baseball, I am not gonna
push downs.

Speaker 5 (01:51:27):
It's so true.

Speaker 7 (01:51:28):
Nine pitching changes and talk to the guys about running strategy.
And then you go to an Arizona softball game and
if they have a good pitcher and they're facing a
team that can't really hit too nothing, game's over and
you know, seventy eight minutes, right, Dan Yellow Tool Shout
out Dan.

Speaker 5 (01:51:46):
Yellow Tool, by the way. So she was a superstar Arizona.

Speaker 7 (01:51:48):
And then she was featured in one of the Jackass movies,
one of the newer ones, and they had her like
softball throw I don't remember what it was, and it
was like vegetables or whatever, like as hard as she could,
like at the guys, and so like she got into
this movie.

Speaker 5 (01:52:01):
I think she's a coach somewhere now. And she was
like on the an Olympic team and like she was great.

Speaker 7 (01:52:07):
But there would be games where they're playing whoever in
the Pac twelve and Daniell o'tool will throw a three
hitch shutout and you're out of there in an hour fifteen,
they went four nothing. I can one hundred percent back
you up on Jay Johnson because it's not only for
those things that you mentioned.

Speaker 5 (01:52:25):
It's also conferring with the umpires.

Speaker 6 (01:52:28):
Even if it's not necessarily his argument there the other
dugouts doing it. Then he'll come out won an explanation like, yeah,
he he definitely is an hourglass manager, that is for sure.
Like Major League Baseball would hate him.

Speaker 7 (01:52:41):
I don't think he'll ever coach in the big league
because he's so good at doing what he does at
the college level. But like, just go to an l
like LSU games, I'm sure equally bad now, like a
random LSU Kentucky games three and a half four hours long. Yeah,
Jay drags on every little everything has to be thought through,
every little strategy.

Speaker 6 (01:53:00):
Like the Little Rock game on Monday, as I mentioned,
it ended at about midnight.

Speaker 5 (01:53:04):
It does because it's you know it.

Speaker 6 (01:53:06):
He only made a couple of pitching changes, but it
was that it was pitch you know, hitters calling time out,
So they call time out, then go back over to
the on deck circle. He's right there while they're pine
tarring their bat whatever. Both base runners are over there.
Then they got to run back out there, they got
to get back in umpire puts the ball back in
play like it's it's all of those things.

Speaker 5 (01:53:26):
So I'm one hundred percent there.

Speaker 6 (01:53:28):
But you get super regional action this weekend, even though
you know the Horns, any of the local teams, they're
not in it. But you get super regional action which
people will be watching UTSA, Patrick hallmarky Houston guy that'll
be watching them. Stro is a good series. Game two
Sunday NBA Finals, This game tonight an elite sports weekend.

Speaker 7 (01:53:46):
Yeah, UTSA getting in the super regional super impressive. U
of h is keeping Todd Winning as their coach as
they announced this week, and they did that. Eddie Nunya
as the athletic director of the statement was interesting of like,
hey where a little disappointed and how this season went,
but we are keeping the guy and he said he's
gonna make changes. But you bring up Patrick Hallmark, he

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would be a pretty good manager for University of Houston
in the Big twelve.

Speaker 6 (01:54:10):
He'd be massive. And that's why you know A and
m they had a disappointing year. There's people who wonder
if Michael Early the coach there, if it doesn't get
better next season, if that could be a possibility, So
Patrick Hallmark, I would venture to say that this is
going to be his last full year at UTSA. The
next year, somebody's gonna come calling and say, hey, yeah,

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we got a we got a larger check for you.
It's it says somebody I worked with once used to say,
it's the we're here for your coach. Well, but we
know you didn't understand what I was seeing. We weren't asking,
we were telling you, we're here for your coach. That's
how that goes. Some program, some good program is going
to take him. There's been a lot of movement.

Speaker 7 (01:54:46):
And you know, Jay originally before he was at Arizona,
came from Nevada, and before that or San Diego and
then Nevada. If you're good and you're at a smaller school,
they will find you. And if even if you're at
a bigger school and you're like at Arizona and LSU,
who has all the resources in the world, decides they
want you, they will find you.

Speaker 6 (01:55:08):
Absolutely. All Right, we've made it three hours in so far.
At this point, what the hell is time going? It's
a Friday.

Speaker 5 (01:55:14):
What can we say?

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series in Cleveland with the Guardians. A little bit later
on this evening NBA Finals, Tyrese Haliburton not overrated anymore
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with the Pittsburgh Steelers on a one year deal. But

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you know, talking about the NBA Finals, obviously the Rockets
aren't there, close enough to getting there, and people wondering
what's gonna happen this sofseason. I mean, you know, when
I was on with you guys on Sports Sunday, me
and Ross talked that with Randy and we played the
cut from rafel Stone that was part of your piece
about untouchable players, and he was like, look, nobody's untouchable,

(01:57:29):
Like you know, I'm not untouchable, like I can be
out the job at any time. But then it was
also to the thing that people held onto that he
said during that end of year press conference with e
May was if I were a betting man, in so
many words, if I were a betting man, I would
bet on continuity with this team. But there are rumors
out there Yannis as a possibility Kevin Durant that does

(01:57:51):
not go away. There seems to be perceived interest on
both ends of Durant wanning out of Phoenix, but also
the Rockets too. Dj august who played a couple of
seasons with the Rockets and also to college teammate of
Durance in college at Texas, in a good relationship there
between the two. He's been hired on to join the

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Rockets front office, according to The Chronicle yesterday, Danielle Lerner
reporting this news. So Dj Augustine hired before this offseason.
All of those rumors are out there, and we possibly
see that something is afoot here with the Rockets.

Speaker 7 (01:58:29):
I don't know, because the Dj Augustine hire could be
a byproduct of one the whole Rockets industrial complex loved
him when he was a player here, the tank commander, right,
Dj Augustine. He's also close with royal Ivey, an assistant coach,
a high fast rising I think eventually will be an

(01:58:50):
NBA head coach years from now on. Emay's staff, and
there's a continent of Texas guys.

Speaker 1 (01:58:57):
TJ.

Speaker 5 (01:58:58):
Ford, who's not on the Rocket staff.

Speaker 7 (01:59:00):
He works with the NBA Players Association and helps kind
of the younger guys get ready. He's pretty good friends
with Augustine. He's close friends with Royal Ivy. He'll train
up Kevin Durant sometimes. So there is there's some of
these these Longhorn connections around here. I wouldn't look too
far into it being a placing DJ Augustine in the

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organization for Kevin Durant to feel comfortable. I think this
is more and I could be wrong, and maybe you
know there are imaginations going on behind the scenes, but
I think this is more of DJ Augustine's looking for
something to do. Everybody in Houston, everybody in that organization
likes him. He's going to be eventually really good at
being some sort of executive or assistant coach or whatever.

(01:59:41):
He's so well liked guy, and they're getting in early
on getting just a smart, useful guy somewhere in the organization.

Speaker 6 (01:59:49):
See and back to the continuity thing, because I hear
that and I'm immediately like, you saw what you were
offensively this year, Like You're not Indiana or Oklahoma City
because of what you couldn't do offensively. We saw that
play out against Golden State, so you say that, But man,
you've got to find a way to be able to
improve the shooting of this team. Otherwise I'm not so

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sure that you're the number two seed next year. And
I've been hot and cold on the Durant rumors. When
they first came out, I was like, you're not getting
that guy anymore. That's that's he is not going to
still be that player. And I don't think anybody disagrees
with that. But now I've come to the other side
where I am in favor of it, because what are
you trying to do with Jalen Green. You're trying to

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get him to take that next step. You're trying to
get him to be more consistent offensively. A guy like
Kevin Durant, who he's talked about before, I think worked
out with them. You know there is a relationship there.
Do you almost do this kind of as a you
bring him in here. I don't know how much time's
left on his deal, but that it's a hey, you're
here to be that scorer, for us to be that guy,

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and we understand what the health is, We understand all
of that. I almost wonder, though, if it's a you
still believe in Jalen you want him to be that
guy here, because I think that is the fear in
that building that they don't want him to become that
guy somewhere else. Kind of the reverse of what happened
with James Harden coming here as opposed to what he
was in Oklahoma City. You bring him here to shepherd

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him along of Here's how you avoid the fall offs,
Here's how you become more of a consistent score. Here's
how you create opportunities for yourself. Follow me, I will
take you to be that guy. That could make sense,
and it would make sense if you have that strong
belief that Jalen Green is going to turn into a superstar.

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And it's still early, and he's still young, and he
came straight out of the G League ignight after high school,
just the one year there. But it feels like by
now he should be a little bit better of a
player with a higher floor than he is. Because I
was looking up Tyrese Haliburton last night. Tyres Haliburton is

(02:01:57):
older than Jalen Green. Obviously, by a few years because
he played in college for a couple of years at
Iowa State, and he was kind of like a late
bloomer type of guy. But by year four, Tyrese Halliburton
was All NBA Third Team. By year three, Tyrese Halliburton
was an All Star. And I know he plays in
the East and it's harder, but we just finished year

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four of Jalen Green. He's still not an All Star.
He's nowhere close to being an All NBA player. And
in the first time that we ever saw him in
a playoff series, he had one massive game that he
played great, and everything else had a low, low floor that.

Speaker 7 (02:02:34):
You just cannot have. And I know the Warriors keyed
in on him, but if you're gonna be that guy,
they're going to key in on you. This isn't the
eighty nine Pistons Jordan rules in you. This is just
Ron Adams, the defensive architect of the Warriors, being smart
and knowing what he's doing. And it's beatable because other

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teams have beat the Warriors. If you're gonna be the
next Devin Booker or the next Anthony Edwards, words, you
gotta give me more than eight or nine points, and
I do think that that's where they need to bring
in a guy Kevin Durant. Apparently Kelly Eco wrote a
good article the other day that the Suns really want
to get rid of him, and the price just keeps
going down. So the Rockets are in a great spot

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where all their messaging is we're good with the continuity.
We like Jalen Green. We believe he's super young and
he's going to turn into a good player. We just
signed him to a long extension. We just signed Shangun
to an extension. Also, we have this guy named and
Men Thompson who we believe is going to turn into
a superstar. So we're okay with running it back. And
I think that's the right messaging because if profel Stone
got up on that podium that one day and said, yeah, guys,

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you're right, we need a score, we gotta go get someone,
price goes up. So I think they've played it smart
and they're in a good position right now. I do
believe they should go after Jiannis and get him now,
because I think you are going to be upset if
you miss out on a generational level player. But you
don't need Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant is a want and
Kevin Durant is not in need. And I think the
way that they've been messaging from an organization going try us,

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We'll just run it back with all of our super
young players that just won fifty plus games this year,
and they're going to keep getting better and a men
Thompson is going to be a nightmare, and we're going
to have a good team. And if we don't win
at all, because there are other the thunder are set
up in a way where they're awesome, then we don't
and then we'll make a move. But right now we
don't need to make a move because we got a

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bunch of good young players.

Speaker 5 (02:04:22):
Chess not checkers.

Speaker 6 (02:04:23):
I mean, it does make sense that you mentioned it
that way, because then you're not dealing from a position
of desperation where I mean it does. I would be
very shocked and surprised if Milwaukee doesn't move Giannis this offseason.
I don't think he necessarily wants to have the perception
out there that he's forcing his way out to mean,
and it seems like he's played it well. It seems

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like they've played it pretty well on that and I
think that most Milwaukee fans would understand it with them,
but I'm here in Houston. I don't necessarily care how
Milwaukee fans feel about it because I want him here.
And that's the point that you bring up is because
then if you're coming at it from a position of desperation,
then Milwaukee can say, oh, we want Shangoon, we want Jalen,
we want this guy, we want that guy, we want

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Jabari Smith Junior, we want your tenth pick. I mean,
all of those different things start being thrown out where
then you're the Rockets and you're kind of like, man,
that's scene. I mean, I understand that Giannis is who
he is, but if you play it that way, then
you come to the table with a all right, let's
hear what you have to say. Now we're not so
we're not so high on it, but try us again.
The Bucks need to have a franchise changing return for

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arguably the greatest player in their franchise's history. I know
Kareem Abdul Jabbar early career won them a title Oscar
Robertson legend, but like Jannis, won a title in modern basketball,
not against plumbers and firemen in the modern NBA against
you know, in the era of Lebron James and Steph

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Curry and all these great players, Kevin Durant and all
these winners, and he had his MVP Yo kitch right,
he had his moment, he had his title, and he
did it in Milwaukee, a small market team that for
a long time, like I grew up in the nineties,
NBA was like Glenn Robinson's good and then they got
Ray Allen, but then ray Allen left, and then it

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was like Michael Red's sort of okay. And for a
long time the Bucks were super irrelevant.

Speaker 7 (02:06:17):
They were just like one of the NBA teams who
had cool nineties uniforms, and then no one cares about
anything else that's going on with them. And then they
got Yannis and now they matter. And so if you're
gonna deal him, which they should, because this is this
is the end of the road, they've made so many
wrong decisions around him and it's run its course, you

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have to, like the thunder. If you're gonna give up
the Hardened, the Westbrook, the Durant, you have to eventually
get back to where your small market team is relevant
and can make a run. And that worked for the Thunder.
It took obviously a long time, but they're in a
great spot now. For the long term, that's what the
Bucks will need and I think it's gonna be a
lot sustainable success.

Speaker 6 (02:06:58):
That's what everybody wants, and that's what the Rockets hoping
they can be able to build upon to not only
get back to the playoffs next year. But I mean
that's part of you watching this finals and you're kind
of like, man, what could have been?

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
Like seriously, what could have been?

Speaker 6 (02:07:13):
Because the Rockets were one of the few teams this
year that beat that team twice and had also handled
you know, Cleveland, who of course, in turn got handled
by Indiana. I mean, they showed you that they could
win games like this, and it's just it's again the
offensive inefficiencies at time that is what did them in
and that's why they went out in the first round.

Speaker 7 (02:07:33):
I was talking to Jabari Smith the other day. He
was working Promise. This is not like a name drop situation.
He was working out at Tracy mcgrady's house, so we
were there to talk to Jabari and at the gym
there at Tmax House, and he felt like they could
have gone further It's just like, man, we were a
few plays away. The Warriors gave us trouble, but we
felt like we matched up really well against the other

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teams in the West, like there was a reason we
were second in the West. They felt like over the
stretch of the season, they played really well against these
other good teams, and they could do a good job
against these these high level teams, the Thunder, the teams
that made it deep into the playoffs, and it was
just the Warriors are a bad matchup and they do

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need to get to a point I believe where you
don't have bad matchups where yeah, that team could maybe
take you to six, but you have all this talent
and they're working at it. Jabari told me when I
talked to him the other day, I want to transform.
I want to be a completely different player, more confidence,
more shot making ability, more ability to find my.

Speaker 5 (02:08:34):
Own and hunt my own shot.

Speaker 7 (02:08:35):
So these guys are trying, these guys are working, and
if it is continuity, I think they have one more
year of it before now maybe the desperation sets in. Yeah,
And I think he showed that, at least on the
offensive end during the playoffs. So I was very impressed
with the way that he played. Now it's kind of like,
all right, does that carry over into next season? And

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sounds like that's what he's working on right now.

Speaker 6 (02:08:58):
So we shall see once the NBA off season is
upon us if indeed the Rockets will be active. Let's
get back into the astros from Raveldes. The price continues
to go up. We will talk about him here on
the Sean Salisbury Show on a Friday Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:09:18):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 7 (02:09:21):
Love when he drops scouting language in the media sessions,
and he definitely did that here because you know, we
were talking about a little bit earlier.

Speaker 6 (02:09:29):
And if you've been watching MLB Network this morning, they've
been showing footage of whenever there is a rain delay,
you will have managers and front office executives meeting with
the umpires. And it was first just Don Kelly, who
is the interim manager for Pittsburgh and Espada talking with
the the you know, the umpires, and then soon enough

(02:09:50):
it was front office people.

Speaker 5 (02:09:51):
Dana Brown finally made his way over.

Speaker 6 (02:09:53):
Like I said, Matt Kalahara and Chandler Rome, we're doing
a good play by play on Twitter about it and
then they said that Brown was quite demonstrative when he
was on the field, and he mentioned it afterwards. Hey, Dana,
what happened? Oh you know, I told him I wanted
the game banged. Yeah, they want to bang the game.
I wanted the game bangs, you know. So he's yeah,
that was that was fun. That was one of some

(02:10:14):
of the most fire I think we've ever ever seen
from Dana. I like it.

Speaker 5 (02:10:18):
Dana can be an interesting guy sometimes.

Speaker 7 (02:10:19):
I love when he drops the scouting language and aircraft
carrier cam Smith. He'll drop a post or shoved or whatever.
He speaks in full twenty eighty mode. He's very much
you know the scout's eye.

Speaker 6 (02:10:33):
That was one thing because I didn't really deal with
him much when when he was in Atlanta, but you know,
once we both were here and he came back and
then I got here August of twenty three to come
back home. And that was one thing that I asked
a buddy of mine who knew him a little bit.
I said, hey, you know, just a little insight on him,
and he said, mentioned to him that you know about

(02:10:54):
the scouts eye, and that was kind of like a
little bit of a oh okay, you know I can
talk to guy, so that helps.

Speaker 5 (02:11:01):
So appreciate my Bundy for throwing that out there. Yeah,
he's it was funny.

Speaker 7 (02:11:05):
He was really getting into it, really wanted that game banged,
and it turned out not to be, and I think
it ended up. I think today they're going to see
some of the byproduct of that. But there were some
positive things we saw from the game last night. He
didn't want his ace pitching in the rain. They waited
till the rain subsided, and from ber Valdez was excellent,
getting the eleven strikeouts and seven innings.

Speaker 5 (02:11:23):
The curveball was working. I believe I was hearing during
the game.

Speaker 7 (02:11:27):
He leads the league in strikeouts via curveball, and the
curveball was nuts last night. And then you get Jacob
Melton with a confidence building game. He had a great game,
Cam Smith doing some good things. And then the guy
that I believe should be an All Star for the
first time this year and I'm almost sure that it'll
happen even if he's not a starter, and a guy

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that I believe is a one hundred plus million dollars
shortstop that the Astros should get on their horse to
extend as soon as possible before the price continues to
go up because he is among the most valuable players
in the American League. I am, of course talking about
Jeremy Payne.

Speaker 6 (02:12:05):
Yeah yeah, And you know, speaking of prices going up,
I mean I think the price was already high you
mentioned Fromber. I mean it just it continues with every
single start mentioned the stats that he's had the last
six starts where it's been no less than six innings,
he's won his last four starts that he's pitched, and
he's had some seven eight inning out eight innings in

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there as well, where last night was seven out of
him where it looked like he could possibly get to
the eighth and then gives up either a hit or
maybe that was another Triolo walk. It was basically anybody
who was not named Jered Triolo, the former UAH product
that was being sent back to the dugout rather quickly
by Fromber. Last night you mentioned that curveball though, I

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mean O'Neil Cruz had no chance. He had the one
decent at bat, which is shocking because O'Neil Cruz is
horrendous against lefties and he's so good at everything else
physically on a baseball field. Yeah, Fromer was working him
because he just does not see it out of the hand. Well,
he was so good against that lineup. This is and
I know a lot of people are like, oh man,
two hundred million dollars a lot of money. He matches up.

Speaker 7 (02:13:07):
Really well with Max Freed in free agency, and Max
Fried got eight years two hundred eighteen million. I think
that's the range we're looking at for Fromber, which makes
me believe an extension is very very unlikely, and the
Astros keeping him in free agency is very very unlikely.

Speaker 6 (02:13:23):
Well, I mean, and you know some of the numbers
that you were throwing out there, Chandler Rome last night
when Fromber's knight was finished, the seven innings, giving up
five hits, two run runs, he walks three, So, I mean,
you know, that's one that is a.

Speaker 5 (02:13:36):
Little bit of a ding on the stat sheet.

Speaker 6 (02:13:38):
But eleven ks, ninety nine pitches, sixty six of them
for strikes, and he got twenty three swings and misses.
The Pirates swung twenty six times against Fromber's curveball and
whift on eighteen of them.

Speaker 7 (02:13:52):
Jeez, eighteen whiffs on a single pitch is ridiculous. Eighteen
whiffs in a game is really good. But the fact
if you had eighteen whiffs on the curveball alone, that's absurd.

Speaker 6 (02:14:04):
And you know, the sinker another pitch that's massive for
Fromber bumping it up to ninety eight at times last night.
Now down there with three zero seven ERA on the season.
So yeah, I mean, we knew that Fromber was going
to be a tough keep for the Astros. It's getting
tougher by the outing because I mean there are opposing
gms who are salivating right now of saying, hey, we

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need this guy, like we know we have this guy.

Speaker 5 (02:14:30):
He's the missing piece for us.

Speaker 6 (02:14:31):
At this point, it is going to be very much
The Astros have to get in early and talk often
if they want to try to get this done. An
early horse I think could be a team that would
be good for Fromber or should go after Fromber is
someone who has a familiar face in the front office,
Michael Lias. The Baltimore Orioles need pitching. They need pitching
that is sustainable. They can go deep into a game

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and can run that rotation because they have Grace and
Rodriguez hurt right now and they have just put together
this patchwork awful rotation without Grayson Rodriguez Fromber makes a
lot of sense for them. Michael Lias was there. You
know he understands, he knows what the deal is with Fromber,
and I think that makes the most sense. And new

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ownership they got the money. Is this the one that
finally the Orioles go all right? Here is our expenditure.
He's not the sexiest player, but he knows. We know
that he's gonna go out there. He posts, he's gonna
give us one hundred ninety innings, he's gonna strike out
a ton of guys, and he's gonna have a three
twenty era and he could be an all star. Well,

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we also know that Steve Cohen spends money, and David Stearns,
guy that used to be here too.

Speaker 7 (02:15:39):
I don't see him spending two hundred million dollars on Farmerveldez.
The way that they've been paying for pitching lately is
all short term deals. They did it with Frankie mown Toss,
who's hurt. They did it a little longer deal with
Sean Minaya, who's close to coming back. They have not
really gone deep on the pitching. Sterns even though he's
got an open wallet totally. They've spent more money on
the side and a lot of their money is tied

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up in uh Juan Soto. And next year, I think
they're gonna have to go after Pete Alonzo again because
he's got an opt out in his deal and he's
having an unbelievable year and he's clearly comfortable there, and
I think both sides want that to stay together. Scott
Boris and Steve Cohen had a very difficult negotiation, according

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to Steve Cohen about Pete Alonzo, but they ended up
getting it done, and I anticipate them having another very
difficult negotiation. Steve Cohen said the Soda negotiation was a
breeze compared to Pete Alonzo.

Speaker 5 (02:16:34):
I think that's gonna happen again.

Speaker 7 (02:16:36):
I do, ultimately think that's where they end up spending
their money and try to David Stern's the Pitching Lab.
There are a number of teams the Dodgers could be
won because they also have unlimited money, and they would
like a pitcher who actually stays healthy. Could be one
that looks after fromer Valdez.

Speaker 6 (02:16:53):
Hm, how funny that would be, But he wasn't really
part of twenty seventeen. So it's fine, yeah, yeah, all
of that. And he talked about the lazy narratives earlier.
Nothing will get me to roll my eyes. I might
go blind rolling my.

Speaker 5 (02:17:04):
Eyes with that one.

Speaker 6 (02:17:05):
But anyway, you mentioned one guy that could be an
All Star for the Astros this year. Just how good
has he been? Let's talk about it here. It is
Sean Salisbury Show again. Ari Alexander in for Sean as
we continue to roll along here on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 5 (02:17:20):
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (02:17:21):
The seven ninety listener line here in the nine o'clock
hour is presented by one eight hundred car Cash. And
you've got the NBA Finals Game two on Sunday, Astros
and Guardians this weekend. I mean, you can't give me
the there's nothing on TV this weekend because if you're
a sports fan, you got plenty all around the clock.

Speaker 5 (02:17:41):
There's a lot to watch. Super Regels are gonna be fun.

Speaker 7 (02:17:43):
What if Texas tech Man, What if they can pull
it off tonight against Texas bringing in the one million
dollar nil pitcher and then getting it done with Patrick
Mahomes in the in the dugout there at press box
watching as a fan.

Speaker 5 (02:17:55):
That would be fun. He was definitely fired up, that's
for sure.

Speaker 6 (02:17:59):
They showed him as as soon as the final out
last night that Kennedy gets the final strikeout and then
you know, Texas Tech, they're fired up and the crowd's
fired up. It looks like it's a pretty cool atmosphere
up there for that too, Like you know, for years, Omaha,
Like I've never been to the new stadium TD Ameritrade.
I went twice once to see my brother played when

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he played for Wayne Graham at Rice, and then years
later I went when the LSU played against Texas in
the National Championship. Jared Mitchell guy hung out with yesterday,
part of that LSU team, And I mean, just an awesome,
awesome atmosphere. Like I don't know how to compare it
to TD amer Trade now, but like Rosenblatt, the way
it was, it was the college baseball version of Wrigley Field,

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of Fenway Park, in the middle of a neighborhood. You
parked in someone's yard. You've got pop up shops all
over the place where you can buy T shirts, merchandise,
you know, bars right there to be able to hang
out like it was an awesome atmosphere there and just
haven't been to a new place yet. I remember going
to Rosenblatt when I was a kid. Every year our

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high school baseball team would set up a series with
Lewis Central High School and like Western Western Iowa, and
we would drive and we'd go to Omaha and go
to the games, and our coach would be like, hey,
you see how them them kids over there at Oklahoma
State are doing it, or Alabama or whatever the whatever
teams are the college old series that year do that.

Speaker 5 (02:19:22):
Those are the fundamentals right there.

Speaker 7 (02:19:24):
And then we'd go and play a series against a
couple of games, like back to back days against this
like Super Western Iowa, big high school.

Speaker 5 (02:19:30):
So we were a small high school.

Speaker 7 (02:19:32):
We also Mitch Keller, by the way, last night, the
Pirates pitcher, so we played against him in high school.

Speaker 5 (02:19:37):
He drilled my friend in the head. God, I don't
think you did it on purpose, but yeah, you.

Speaker 7 (02:19:40):
Lost command of a fastball and drilled our catcher, my
buddy Trent, right in the dome. So yeah, now he's
a big leaguer, So yeah, my buddy's got a story.
Now it's like, yeah, hit in the head by the
one of the pirates best starting pitchers, so it's it
was cool. Rosenblatt was cool. But then I came back
in twenty sixteen. I was in Tucson covering the Arizona Wildcats.
I was there for fifteen days, and the sleep in

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right there near Omaha, and uh, it was, Uh, it's
a cool atmosphere.

Speaker 5 (02:20:08):
It's fun. Don't be in a sleep in for fifteen days.

Speaker 7 (02:20:11):
But the one good thing that was nice there because
it's Western Iowa, they have Casey's. I don't know if
you ever heard of cases all right, so Casey's Pizza.
I missed it. I'd lived in Memphis, had lived in
TUCSONA and had Casey's Pizza for years, and I missed
Casey's pizza. So every night I'd go get myself a slight.
It was this was not a healthy fifteen days. Yeah,
I'd go get myself a slice of Casey's pizza. I'd
go play some black jack at the casino, and then

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I wake up the next day and go cover college
baseball for two weeks straight, and biscuits.

Speaker 5 (02:20:36):
And gravy from Zesto's.

Speaker 6 (02:20:38):
You know, you get the you know, the frozen treats
that Zesto's has, you know, that's that's part of it too.

Speaker 7 (02:20:43):
I don't know Zesto's, but I will say everyone told
me go to the steakhouse the Drover not good, overrated,
really not good.

Speaker 5 (02:20:51):
Yeah we did. We did mister C's up.

Speaker 1 (02:20:54):
There in.

Speaker 5 (02:20:56):
Omaha, and we went when my brother played.

Speaker 6 (02:20:58):
But yeah, he was part of He was on the
ninety seven team, Lance Berkman, Bubba Crosby, all those guys
had during that time. So it was a fun time
for sure. I mean it was one of those how
my brother gets to do this, I want to do this. Well,
the problem was I just wasn't as good as I mean.
That's why I speaking to a microphone now.

Speaker 5 (02:21:14):
So there you go.

Speaker 7 (02:21:16):
That's what I saw, rosenblaus Man. I can't I can't
wait to lead the Iowa Hawkeyes to the College World
Series and just was not good enough to do any
of that.

Speaker 5 (02:21:25):
Sometimes our dreams remain that way. What do you gotta do?
It's it's fine real quick here, Jeremy Pania.

Speaker 6 (02:21:30):
I mean, you've been singing his praises, We've all been
singing his praises, just how good he's been. And last
night I mean it just continues with you know how
he's been at the plate since moving to the leadoff spot.
He continues it with another great performance, a couple of
doubles in the wind infield single again, and I mean
stealing bases the way that he is. I know that

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you've been on the twenty twenty track with him of
how he's looking. Stole a couple of basses last night.
Twelve stolen bags this year. Now for Jeremy Pania, we're
in eight seventy ops three eighteen. I mean, I understand
there's some competition at shortstop in the American League, but
how can you not if you're an Astros fan, You're

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doing the voting early and often with Jeremy Panna.

Speaker 7 (02:22:13):
He needs to be the starting shortstop. He's beloved here,
he's the World Series MVP. He's got plenty of different
types of fan bases right around Houston, around the country.
This let's get the Dominican involved here, right like he
was one of the main shortstops on the Dominican team.
This is a guy that deserves to be an All
Star for every single reason. Not only is he hitting

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this year better than he ever has in his career,
he's essentially playoff Jeremy Pania from twenty twenty two, but permanently.
Right now, he's running better than he ever has in
his career. He's one of the fastest players in baseball,
and now that he's starting to realize how to recognize
tip offs with pitchers on where to go, he's starting
to run. His defense has been significantly better this year

(02:22:55):
than it was last year. He is plus four to
zaa right now. That is ninety third percentile in baseball.
His batting run value ninetieth percentile, so he's one of
the top ten percent best hitters in baseball right now.
Base running run value eighty third percentile, top twenty percent
base runner fielding run value eighty fifth percentile, so top

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fifteen percent. So yeah, one of the best hitters, who's
one of the best base runners, who's one of the
best fielders.

Speaker 5 (02:23:25):
Two things need to happen here, Dan.

Speaker 7 (02:23:28):
He needs to be an All Star whether or not
he gets voted in, because Bobby Witt is going to
be tough competition or chosen, but he needs to play
in that All Star Game. He is an All Star
player this year. And secondly, the Astros need to get
a contract extension done with Jeremy Paanya because when Dana
Brown came in and said, I'm going to extend all
these players. We want to build this team out for

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the future. The guy you do that with is Jeremy Paigna.
On the field, does everything right, has clearly improved in
all the things that he wasn't as good at. There
were all these tools, and I've always said for years,
I like Jeremy. I think he's a good player. I
think he's a good person. If all of this comes together,
he is a star player. You know who else has

(02:24:09):
said virtually that same thing year after year. Jose Altuve
from day one in spring training before Payya debuted, said,
this guy is going to be a superstar. If he
puts it all together, He's going to be a superstar.
This is what it looks like when he has put
it all together. That price is probably about one hundred
million or more. Now and makeup big scouting thing. We've

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been talking about scouting talk all day. Everybody has given
him high, highest possible marks on makeups. You have a
guy that could eventually be a clubhouse leader, who's a
great clubhouse guy in general, who does everything right off
the field. You never have to worry about him. Who
represents your organization and the right way is already in

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the HB commercials, already in the takaiad Ondus commercials, and
does it in a way that represents the organization pos
and he's playing out of his mind and it looks
to be sustainable. That's the guy you extend no pania
penia a commercial. Yeah, why are you guys talking to
orbit like? He doesn't speak.

Speaker 5 (02:25:11):
He'll come up and.

Speaker 7 (02:25:12):
Drop like uh, he'll drop a dimelo to me sometimes
and I have to like, you know, I can only
do like a tiny bit of Spanish, and I have
could be like, oh, it's just like, hey, what's going
on whatever? So I can drop a k okay here
here and there. But he's a guy that this is
a place, a city that is incredibly diverse. We have
a large Latino population. So you have a guy speaks
perfect English, speaks perfect Spanish. He can be marketed to everyone.

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Then he's already in the HIV commercial. It's a make
good for Alex Bregman.

Speaker 6 (02:25:39):
Is a possible I mean, because you know you heard
how how just loud Jose Altuve was about trying to
bring him back last year. He's done the same thing
with Pania this year. And the other thing is, I
mean the leadership part of it. I mean people wondering
all the time who the leaders on this team. You've
heard Joe Spotta talked about it numerous times. I think
Pania could be that guy. He wants Paanya to step up.

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And he's not, by design a super outgoing guy. He's
a I have my routine, I get there, I do
my job. I do everything I need to do to
be good and do the right thing. He's not super vocal,
but he can be. He can grow into it.

Speaker 7 (02:26:15):
He's twenty seven years old now, he's in his fourth
year of Major League Baseball. He's starting to come out
of his shell a little bit. And Josel Tuve has
always been a quiet guy, but when he needs to
say something, he'll say something.

Speaker 5 (02:26:26):
And Paya could grow into that role.

Speaker 7 (02:26:28):
To me right now, it feels like on the pitching
side from ber Valdez is definitely one of the leaders
in the clubhouse.

Speaker 5 (02:26:33):
He's always super vocal.

Speaker 7 (02:26:34):
He's kind of the guy they talked to before that
it was sector nearis on that side with the hitters,
Marisio Dubon is that guy right now. He's the vocal one.
He's the guy that gets everyone involved. I'm pretty sure
he's for most of the time the DJ now that
Kyle Tucker has left. Yeah, this guy's a utility player,
though you need one of your real top two three
better players.

Speaker 1 (02:26:55):
Bregman was that guy. Correa was that guy.

Speaker 7 (02:26:58):
Martin Maldonado not necessarily one of your best players, but
he's a catcher, so it naturally fits.

Speaker 6 (02:27:02):
I think pain you can eventually grow into that role.
Fromer's the vibes guy vibes. Remember remember back to the
parade where it's him nearest. I forget who else was
on that. Montero's probably there. I was like, man, that's
that is a fun looking float right there. You got
you got the drinks going, he got the loud speakers
on there. They were having fun that day.

Speaker 5 (02:27:21):
Fromber is very much a ViBe's guy.

Speaker 7 (02:27:23):
If you walk in the clubhouse, he's always playing the
Dominican dembo music. I'm a big so El Alpha. By
the way, if you know your Dominican dembo, I'll have
to get into it. Coming to Houston in November and
when he was here, last time, I think it was
twenty twenty three, did a concert in sugar Land and
it was a Thursday off day, I think, and a
bunch of the guys went and he I think he

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came to the field one day and Martin Maldonado had
some relationships with some of the different guys, and I
think fromber had met el Alpha somewhere in the Dominican
But yeah, he's coming coming.

Speaker 6 (02:27:56):
To November, okay for a concert. Maybe I'll check it out. Maybe,
you know, he kind of kind of expand my horizons
when it comes to music. It's good gym music.

Speaker 7 (02:28:05):
So if you want to just like pretend you're fromber Valdez,
like doing the running where he runs, you know, the
polls with his headphones on, it's good man, you're doing
the treadmill or lifting or whatever. There's nothing like having
a Dominican guy just screaming the same forwards in Spanish
at you to like an unbelievable beat.

Speaker 6 (02:28:21):
Okay, well, I mean you know that's when you're suffering
in silence. I mean, you know, he need something to
be able to kind of get you over the finish line.
So I'll give it a shot. I'll try I'll try
this out.

Speaker 7 (02:28:30):
I'm not trying to listen to the stuff they play
in the gym when you don't have your headphone. Now,
it's like, you know the worst Maroon five songs. You know.

Speaker 6 (02:28:38):
Yeah, no, it's it's definitely not it's not setting the
tone the way that you want it to.

Speaker 5 (02:28:43):
No, yeah, no, you can't have that. All right, speaking of.

Speaker 6 (02:28:46):
The ways you want things, I think this guy is
learning that he can't call the shots anymore. We'll talk
about that here as the Matt Thomas Show with Ross
is coming up from ten to two right here on
your Home with the Astros and the Rocket, Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:29:01):
Why isn't the rat race more racy? Construction?

Speaker 6 (02:29:05):
Completely shutting down the Southwest streetways?

Speaker 3 (02:29:10):
Anyway, enjoy your time and crawling through Houston Road construction
with more.

Speaker 1 (02:29:15):
Sean Salisburg on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (02:29:21):
All right, Bill Belichick, it's the story that just want
to go away. Jordan Hudson like it's funny on your channel.
The other day, just happened to wake back up from
my mid afternoon nap that he usually I'll take and
saw that entertainment tonight was on. They had Patty Stinger
who was the celebrity matchmaker, and they were asking her
ring or run. Was kind of like a quick, little,

(02:29:42):
you know, hitting topic, and when it got to Jordan
Hudson and Belichick, she emphatically goes, run, She's gonna take
all of your money.

Speaker 5 (02:29:50):
Yeah, that's such a funny story.

Speaker 7 (02:29:52):
I love that Pablo Torri is like going deep on
that and just like running Belichick into the ground. I
get it because and I don't like hypocrites. Most people don't.
Bill Belichick spent, however, many years as the greatest NFL
coach of all time of the Patriots, with his whole
mantra being do your job, don't be a distraction. And

(02:30:14):
I know everyone has said this, but you're the distraction.
Now you're a college coach who couldn't get hired at
the NFL because you're so difficult to deal with. And
also as a GM, heated terrible, is oddly horrendous at
drafting wide receivers. It's kind of the first thing I
thought of. And now most you played lacrosse, yeah unless
you yeah, or a quarterback at Kent State or whatever,

(02:30:36):
and you figured out that you can get Julian Edelman
both the upper draft picks receivers he took was horrible.
And now you're the distraction, and you're the guy who's
telling everyone do the right thing. And I'm not necessarily
saying it's right or wrong to be a seventy three
year old man dating a twenty four year old pageant contestant,
but visually, optically it's not good. And it could be

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not Belichick, it could be any coach, any you know,
older college football coach. Let's say if Nick Saban divorced
Miss Terry and started dating some girl in his twenty
in her twenties, you don't think that would be a
massive daily story. I've talked about it numerous times, Like
it's well known how close they are in terms of

(02:31:23):
being friends. Dude, you have to imagine that Saban is
even like, Bill, what are you doing?

Speaker 10 (02:31:29):
Man?

Speaker 7 (02:31:30):
But seriously, even if that's someone like I'm not seventy yet,
But if one of my buddies in their mid thirties
started dating a girl in college, which is still less
ridiculous than the situation we're talking about, because the age
difference would be like fourteen and not you know, fifty, I'd.

Speaker 5 (02:31:47):
Be like, what are you doing?

Speaker 6 (02:31:48):
Apparently those leaked messages with the publicist. He was pissed
about the CBS interview because it was supposed to be
about the book. I'm so glad that reporter for CBS
asked the question because nobody cares about book.

Speaker 7 (02:32:00):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (02:32:01):
I learned a love of football from my dad.

Speaker 6 (02:32:04):
Oh awesome, I've got three hundred more pages of this
amazing Oh I learned from playing lacrosse.

Speaker 10 (02:32:10):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (02:32:11):
Great.

Speaker 6 (02:32:12):
Nobody cares about your book. Everyone cares about your personal life.
Right now, You've made a sideshow of it. And he's
trying to control the narrative again. And I'm sorry. You
don't have Tom Brady around you anymore. You're not hoisting Lombardes.
You don't get to do it anymore. Sorry, Bill, You're
not protected. He can't control the narrative when he's just
a first year college coach. You can't do it at
a school where you're not even the most important on

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your own campus. No matter what Carolina Basketball does, that
will always rule the day. He's Ari Alexander KPRC two,
Dan Matthews, Tripoli, Emmanuel Elmore. It's been an awesome week.
Sean Salisbury back with us on Monday, We'll talk to
you in sixty eight hours The Matt Thomas Show. Next
right here, Sports Talk seven ninety with Ross Can't Leave
You Out.

Speaker 1 (02:32:52):
Ross