Astros Rally To Win Game 1 Over Phillies, 2025 NBA Lottery Draft, Dana Brown's Weekly Segment

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salisbury. Hot, Okay, let's do this. Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
To usc Trup's longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthewscus. This is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Kennedy with that high over his head, hits this one
on the ground to Peretti's. Peretti's to home and he's
got his man. Peretta's had to feel it right on
top of the bag. A little one hopper to him,
throws home and he gets Otto Kemp on the five
to two put out Kennedy from first and this ball's
hit high in the air to center field. Lazy fly

(00:46):
a ball. Jack Myers is there, he'll make the catch
and that'll retire the side for the third straight at bat.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Phillies two out.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
Of the three epics have left two on first pitch,
brown ball right side. Bondo is right, he has it
on dr hands the second for one paint in a
first that's two, just what the doctor ordered for. Frober
Valdez and the astros A four to six y three
and the side is retired. Phillies have stranded seven tonight
and after five and a half, astros nothing, Phillies nothing.

(01:17):
He's three to two and that's driven out toward right
center field. That hit pretty well. Long run for Rojas, looking.

Speaker 6 (01:22):
Up Sealana opposite field. Hover for Cooper Hubble, enter the
Astros bullpen. What nothing, Houston. Second home run of the
season for Hubble. Here's the two two.

Speaker 7 (01:36):
Swing and a miss.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
Can't hold up on the fastball, away and fat is
the ballgame.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Cooper Hubbles home run in the eighth inning.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
The difference tonight as the Astros defeat the Philadelphia Phillies
one to nothing.

Speaker 8 (01:50):
And sometimes one is all you need. And that was
the case over there at dyke In Park last night.
Robert Ford, Kevin Ashenfelder on the call with that we
say away we go in good morning here on the
Sean Salisbury Show on a Western Wednesday.

Speaker 9 (02:05):
One is the loneliest number that you've ever seen.

Speaker 7 (02:10):
Rangers.

Speaker 9 (02:11):
Sarez could have used a one, not one against him.
You know, two can be as bad as one, right,
But or however they say it. You know the cut,
you know the cut triple he knows that cut? No way,
probably not, no, he didn't know the cut. Good song though,
good song, old classic. Yeah, watch that you told me

(02:31):
to take the over under? And about what Yeah, exactly
with the over with runs, give me the under? What
was the sea sparks he was talking about it? Maybe
about the over under or just how you know what
three runs combined?

Speaker 7 (02:43):
Well, you saw it. Pictures matchup.

Speaker 9 (02:45):
We had two of the very best left handers, best
pictures in baseball, doing their thing and both hot for
the most part. One was pretty much unhittable the whole night.
The other one again grinded through some walks. It's a
double play, grinded through some hits, hung in there and
took care of it, and you know, offensively, they just

(03:06):
couldn't quite get it going.

Speaker 7 (03:07):
I thought it would you know what was the inning?

Speaker 9 (03:09):
When it was what Diaz and Humma went back to
back base hits right, and then Dubon hit into a
double plug.

Speaker 7 (03:15):
That was the sixth.

Speaker 9 (03:16):
Yeah, so I think it was right classic. I didn't
remember what enning, but classic pictures matchup, which is I know, cliche,
but it was phenomenal. And you knew going in if
you got them both at least what would I say yesterday?
If they're at ninety percent of their best, you're going
to get aw take the under basically, and I uh,
it was impressive. And then Humble's ball when it was

(03:37):
first hit, you know that sound off the bat that
sometimes you hear it did it. It didn't feel like
it had that much late life on it.

Speaker 7 (03:45):
It was a gap.

Speaker 9 (03:46):
Or yeah, maybe to the wall and stuff, but kept
carying and carrying and that was so huge. And then
obviously Hater coming in and closing it out.

Speaker 7 (03:52):
It was it it had.

Speaker 9 (03:54):
If you like great pitching against some really good hitting
on I mean at least potential hitting on both teams,
you liked watching what you saw last night, it was fine.
The truth is sware if it was anybody else, Warez pitched,
pitched lights outside young stuff well enough to win, well
enough to win, and the clutch hit by Humble Man.

(04:16):
You know, sometimes it only takes one and winning these
again a one run game. Who won this has been
the Astros for the most part this year. Took care
of it, you know, three singles up until the point.
I think of the home run that Humble hit and
he goes oppics field. It was a good piece of hitting.
So another guy that you don't expect helping out. Wins

(04:36):
like that are huge, close one gut it out. Their
pitcher actually pitched a little bit better than ours, but
he just from approved again you get late grind through
some negative stuff or some stuff that could put you
in a buying some walks and took care of his business.
It was another impressive pitching performance. And then you know,

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I know everybody gets nervous when close out situation, but
it struck out a couple in the night that was
loved it.

Speaker 7 (05:03):
And you know, Bray, you did his thing as well.

Speaker 8 (05:06):
And if you were taking action on this game last night,
the over under was seven and a half.

Speaker 7 (05:11):
That was hammered. The thunder, I hammered it. You know
what's crazy.

Speaker 9 (05:17):
When I left here yesterday, I said, I got to
go put it in uh huh, and I got caught
up and everything, and by the time the game's going,
it was too late. That that was the easiest bet
in basement. Well in sports the last month is and
I'm being serious of seven runs with those two teams
and those two pitchers, Yeah no, no, And hell if

(05:40):
you got him at seventy five percent of each, I
don't think you're getting seven runs. I mean, you may
give up a couple of walks, but I'm talking about
the ability for those guys to get out of innings,
and man, that was that was impressive. And nobody is
pitching better right now than than their guy. I mean,
Suarez has been off the charts, yeah, or six starts.

Speaker 8 (06:00):
I can't remember if it was the radio side of
the TV side that gave where he had a later
start this year to his season, and his first one
didn't go all that great. But then ever since he's
had a one.

Speaker 7 (06:13):
He's damn near been unhittable. He really has.

Speaker 8 (06:16):
And he logs innings as well, and he was for
over five plus. There's no doubt, literally unhittable, no doubt.
I'm gonna talk and you'll know who I'm talking about.
But speaking of pitching, just real quick to get this
in and then after listening to his family get interviewed,
I get the MLB package.

Speaker 7 (06:31):
I'll get all those all the games, right. So I
got really.

Speaker 9 (06:37):
Immersed into the Yankees Reds game last night and they
interviewed his parents.

Speaker 7 (06:42):
Chase Burns Now, dude, oh yeah, I mean good. He
was in college.

Speaker 9 (06:46):
Now he's toned down the over excessive celebrations walking off
the mount after a strikeout, right, which he needed to do.
What he gets up with the big boys There's no
doubt because when I watched him in college, he's like, dude,
I love the enthusiasm, but you didn't just win the Worlds.
It was just again and I love his energy. But
at times, if you're a hitter, you're like, we're gonna
You're gonna have to calm this down. At the next
level with the big boys.

Speaker 8 (07:07):
You almost wonder if, like those Tennessee guys, as soon
as they get drafted, you know how they in college
there's the process of de recruiting if there is sort
of that in Major League Baseball where they get there
and you know, you sign with the team and you
get into the building and they're like, hey, you can't do.

Speaker 9 (07:22):
That, and you do you know exactly what they're saying without.

Speaker 8 (07:24):
Your brain, and wear it and one of us are
gonna wear it, and then we'll make you wear it.

Speaker 9 (07:28):
Oh, there's no doubt. It's and I listen, it's I
love the enthusiasm.

Speaker 10 (07:31):
I do.

Speaker 9 (07:32):
I think bat flipping on a base hit in the
first inning is probably a little much, but Tennessee has
the ability to get on your nerves at times on
baseball right, but a lot of college teams do because
of the you know, the energy and the celebration. It's
kind of half pro baseball, half Savannah Bananas. Not with
the gimmicks, but with the you know, you're saying, man,

(07:52):
that's a that's an Outlanta's things, right, that's it's.

Speaker 7 (07:56):
It's it's it's not got into what was.

Speaker 9 (08:00):
It's almost like they want the benches to clear like weekly, yeah,
and get you talking about it. They're great now. It's
a great baseball program, sure, and a hell of a talent,
as we well know. Of course you do, and I
would have said it's not as good as USC twenty five,
thirty years ago when we were in college. World seriously
walked to that door a lyon and boy do we

(08:20):
miss him, but it did their enthusiasm. So what I
was when I saw that Burns was pitching. You know,
he's only had thirteen starts in minor leagues, I think,
and uh, I think Skiing's got there in twelve and
he's got there in thirteen, or vice versa. So I
wanted to see him because obviously watching him at college,
I want to see it, dude. I watch him from
the start. He struck out the first six guys he faced,

(08:42):
his first six outs were all strikeouts, and you know
he pumps it at one hundred and he's got more.

Speaker 7 (08:48):
Than one pitch.

Speaker 9 (08:48):
And they interviewed his parents, and I thought, you know
what his dad the discipline about working. I thought, okay,
I understand why he's grinding and doing his thing. You
could tell that way, But dude, he was. He was
pretty damn good. And I thought, after I eat strike
out and strikes that Aaron judge, he didn't walk off
the mound throw doing what he did. Tennessee, you're exactly
right because if what he signs, it's now you don't

(09:09):
even have to bring up the subject. Like you said,
they walk in the bilding and say, can't do that,
and they automatically know what you're of. All at a
baseball player there that I know exactly what they're talking about,
because you wouldn't just wear it, dude, it would be
embedded in you like a chip.

Speaker 7 (09:23):
Okay, yeah, you can't.

Speaker 9 (09:24):
So love the enthusiasm, but he also learned, as Pops
probably told him, hey, love you love your energy, Go
down to the clubhouse steps, go back in there when
you get a peanut butter and jelly sound in between
innings or something you do. It did because these big
boys here they have a way of And his dad said,
after the first six dragts, the guys interviewed him the stands.
He goes, well, it's a long game. We'll see and

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then what do you see?

Speaker 7 (09:46):
Boom?

Speaker 9 (09:47):
You know, home run, I mean a smoked home run
to right field. And then the grind begins. You know,
you get in three or four. Any second time around,
they start to look at you. They'll do he's gonna
be a hell of a pitcher because he's got everything,
and he's got overwhelming fastball that hard to catch up too,
and a couple other pitches.

Speaker 7 (10:01):
But I was just.

Speaker 9 (10:02):
Smiling because I thought, oh yeah, I remember in Tennessee
he'd throw a ball and celebrate. You know what I'm saying.
But that's kind of them at Tennessee. But they play
good baseball too. But I liked him. Speaking of good pitching,
there's another one, you say, the right hander that can
pump it over one hundred.

Speaker 7 (10:18):
Who's good.

Speaker 9 (10:19):
Yeah, they and Frank COONa doesn't run him up there
like that. If in fact he doesn't think the kids ready,
he probably loves his energy too. Oh absolutely, we got
a great pitching performance list. It was a great watch
and clutch hitting at the right time.

Speaker 8 (10:31):
No, And that's the thing is I mean, you get
the sixth inning is when you finally break through with
a couple of hits. You leave those guys on base
with the Dubon double play, and then peretis a questionable
strike three call there to end that threat. But then
the astros, I mean, you get the one that matters
the most from Cooper Hummel the home run there in

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the eighth inning to the opposite way.

Speaker 7 (10:52):
So they're able to hold on and win. And that's good.

Speaker 8 (10:56):
News because I mean, yesterday he got even more bad
news on the pitching front, with Sean Dubinet now on
the IL with a forearm strain, got an MRI hoping
that it's minor, does not think surgery is going to
be needed, and hopeful to return after the All Star break.

Speaker 7 (11:17):
Somebody's hurt. I mean, it.

Speaker 8 (11:21):
Really is kind of the reaction now, it's just like,
all right, just another one.

Speaker 7 (11:25):
And what did you say?

Speaker 9 (11:26):
The return was scheduled for he when I when I
saw yes, I rolled my eyes in a gut wrenching
We're like, oh my gosh, another one.

Speaker 7 (11:32):
Yeah, It wasn't what's wrong with him? How can we?

Speaker 9 (11:35):
It was oh my gosh, another one? So fifteen day
or after what late July frustration? How do you continue
to do this? Overcome it? How do you continue? I
know Dana, he loves the word grit, and it does

(11:56):
describe the team. But I mean, grit can go so
far right. That's point, doesn't somebody it doesn't have to
be a leak meaning a little crack in the that
this guy is not quite as good as the next guy.
Doesn't there somehow, some way have to be a well
that he's he's good. But that's that, that's a weakness
in our in our rotation. I'm not where they're still learning.

(12:18):
I'm talking about a weakness. Has there ever come the
point in time where it's like, oh, you're an astros
picture and your your your weakness because you're you're just
not you're new at it. We're trying to get your
role and you're not supposed to be here yet. But
it seems like everyone who goes there, it's like another guy.
Bullpen's are another guy and another guy. As we've talked about,
it's incredible. The question is how often how many can

(12:40):
you do this with how how many can you expect?
We lost this guy, do this, lost this guy to
free Aenci, He lost this guy to an injury, lost
this guy to another injury, and still continue to do this.

Speaker 7 (12:51):
Uh, we'll see.

Speaker 9 (12:52):
But yes, that's exactly my first thing here again. Yeah,
it's it's got to be a beat down for them
and for him, but an incredible challenge as they continue
to have to overcome another guy because as we well know,
he's been pretty damn good here.

Speaker 7 (13:07):
He absolutely has.

Speaker 8 (13:08):
I mean, somebody that you've been able to count on
even in high leverage situations. So now that puts more
on guys like Brian King, on Ben at SUSA, Steven Okert,
maybe even Caleb b Ort I mean, is that a
guy that you count on kind of for the dubin
role right now? So that's you know, Seans you just
laid out. It's just it's another name that's part of

(13:29):
a long list for the Astros this season and top
five in all of baseball in terms of IL time
this season. The Dodgers are first with over a I
think it was like a thousand games with all the
guys that they have, but the Astros not too far
behind them. So just shows you what Joe Spot and
the crew over there dealing with on a regular basis.
But we're just getting going here on the Sean Salisbury Show.

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And one thing I do want to talk about is
this was once a weakness.

Speaker 7 (13:57):
Now it's become a strength for your stros.

Speaker 8 (13:59):
We'll talk about it here as we're just getting going
on the Seawan Salisbury Show. Seven one three two one
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Speaker 1 (14:13):
From h Towns.

Speaker 11 (14:14):
This is a.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
For h down. This this is Sports Talk seven nights.

Speaker 9 (14:21):
Because right now you see it light on Houston right now.

Speaker 8 (14:24):
Back to Sean Salisbury. All right, Sean, the DeLorean, it's
right there, it's right in front of us. We're gonna
hop in it really quick, Doc Brown, Sean Dan, we
need to go back to let you at this.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
Time, all right, Doc Brown, we we will.

Speaker 8 (14:40):
You know, go in the trash can fill up the
flux capacitor there for a little bit.

Speaker 7 (14:44):
You know, you gotta load up.

Speaker 9 (14:45):
You gotta load up the flux's yeah, meaning like banana
peels and stand appeals, aluminum cans, whatever it was.

Speaker 7 (14:51):
You know, he was just going to right, you know,
uh yeah, illuminum cans are big with the flex fu.
Yeah it was.

Speaker 8 (14:57):
It was once for for Doc. I mean, remember it
was two different paths of history. He went from being
commended to committed where you had the newspaper change on
him there in real time. But in this case, last year,
at this time, one run games, come from behind games,
any of those types of scenarios.

Speaker 7 (15:15):
This was not a good baseball team.

Speaker 8 (15:16):
This was a team that was finding a way to
lose those some quick numbers here sean for how good
the Astros have been this year in both of those
scenarios one run games. With that win last night won
the nothing that would qualify sixteen and seven. This year,
there are thirteen games above five hundred. So obviously that's
a huge reason why that is the case, the biggest reason,

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and it was about a week and a half ago.
I haven't gone back to look and see if that
number had changed, but the Astros twenty to ozher and
come from behind performances this season another huge reason.

Speaker 7 (15:51):
Now, so so what when you come from behind? What inning?
Does that matter? Any inning?

Speaker 9 (15:55):
So when you come from behind, you never relinquished the lead.
Is that how that ship stat place stit or at
least or at least that you win, right, so they
they could come from behind in the third, get called,
then then relate, give up the lead in the fifth,
get it back in the seventh, and go win. Doesn't
matter when how many times you get it and give

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it away, as long as you were behind at some
point and ended up winning.

Speaker 7 (16:20):
That's a come back.

Speaker 9 (16:21):
And they're twenty and oh so they've never relinquished in
the end a game that they have somehow got the lead.
Even if they've given it back, they found a way
to get the lead again and have not lost a game.
That's a that's a pretty in truth, a fairly alarming
stat for the rest it is. I mean, he just says, sometimes,
you know, you come back and then all of a

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sudden you'll run into a tenth inning game where guys
on second guy gets a blue base hit and you
lose twenty and oh and sixteen and seven and one
run games. There's a lot about this team that's different
this year, meaning personnel decision, a lot of it. And
there's a lot that's different this year, and the statistics
you just laid out are different, and they'll be very
few in the lead. If that continues in the second

(17:04):
half of this season, they will run away with the
division because you can't. You want to talk about trying
to sustain one run wins hard to do and to
sustain the fact that doesn't everybody get up in a game.
Oh you're up three to two, Oh you're down four
to three, and you just get closed out by another
good pitching performance. But they haven't. You haven't been able

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to close the team out once you've had a lead.
You've always given it back to the Astros somehow, some
way in the game.

Speaker 7 (17:30):
Twenty to zero.

Speaker 9 (17:31):
That's a pretty moving statistic when you're talking about why
the team's good. That explains the grit. I mean, if
that's the word, it's the word for the Astros because,
like I said, Dana Brown loves it. We'll get into
day nine thirty and he's right. But doesn't that take
grit because I can tell you what, twenty times this year,
there's been plenty of those twenty wins. There's been plenty

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of times they were in position to lose the game
or had four hits and found a way last night
last night, three hits until the home run, and they
were all singles against one of the best, against the
guy who's going as good as anybody in baseball, and
who was who was going great last night, and Ranger
Suarez is off the chart. So to be able to

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do that, that's different. DNA there, buddy, it absolutely is.
And not a one of them I didn't mean to interrupt.
Not a one of them in the last month and
a half, for probably not many of them with the
way he was hidden, have been done by the big
left hander and the dug.

Speaker 7 (18:31):
It hasn't been playing thish.

Speaker 9 (18:32):
I don't know how many he's been involved in those
twenty comebacks or one run games, but they're doing it
most of the time without his bat in the lineup,
which is pretty impressive.

Speaker 8 (18:43):
Last year at this time where coming into this game tonight,
it would have been the game against the Rockies June
twenty fifth of last year. The Astros were thirty eight
and forty at that point and in the throes of
a win streak at that point where they had taken
out the White Socks for a couple, swept the Orioles,
and then we're able to sweep the Rockies, and that's

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how they were able to get back to five hundred.
So they were able to get the five hundred at
forty and forty on June twenty sixth. Right now they're
thirteen games above five hundred and Oh by the way, dude,
don't look now, but the Yankees have lost a couple
of games. The Astros now three and a half are
excuse me, yes, they're three and a half games back
of the Detroit Tigers for the best record in the

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American League and all of baseball, and they're a game
in front of the Yankees. So right now the Astros
are the second best record in the American League.

Speaker 9 (19:33):
And extremely impressive. But also, once again, we could say
it all we want. They they're not supposed to be
in this position, considering all the changes and now another injury,
there's not So if you want to call it resilience,
grit culture, DNA, whatever it is, it was somebody else.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
Uh he was hummel, was.

Speaker 8 (19:54):
It on my Maybe that can be a rousing, you know,
rousing applause once you get to the end of the season,
But for right now, it's just.

Speaker 7 (20:01):
A golf clop.

Speaker 9 (20:02):
No, it is because there's a lot of baseball in
front of them, but you have to but you can write,
but you can only judge the games that have been played.
And at this point in the season, I know it's
going to be hard for people to understand, and some
don't want to hear this. Maybe outside this market, considering
all that's happened, Joe's Spott is the manager.

Speaker 7 (20:23):
Of the year. Oh, there's no question.

Speaker 9 (20:25):
Joe's spot is the manager of the year. Seventy nine
games in now you could say, you know, we'll look
at what Dave Roberts is doing, because but the expectations
for the Dodgers were different. They have like forty seven
starting pitchers that can win the Cy young when the
season started, Hey, you can lose Mookie Betts for a

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couple of weeks because of you know whatever he's going
through and and still find a way to win a
bunch of games because you've got like six more MVP
candidates on your roster over the course of time. Freddie
Freeman in Atlanta and the Dodgers, and you know months,
he's going to hit a bunch of all.

Speaker 7 (21:03):
I mean, everywhere you look. Otani obvious.

Speaker 9 (21:06):
So it's uh, it's impressive, man, It's it's impressive what
the astros are doing. And Joe spot is the manager
of the year. Guys that belong in the All Star
Game in my opinion, performance wise paying you for sure.
I don't know how you leave Hunter Brown off that
you can't that's a no brainer in my mind. The

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question is is from burn All Star?

Speaker 7 (21:30):
He should be? I think he should be as well?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Will he be?

Speaker 9 (21:33):
Those are three no brainers in my opinion. Now how
you fit the rest in? Do you do you believe
that hater at the back end of the bullpens the
guy who should be? Like I said, they take a
lot of start up pictures. Absolutely, is he the All Star?
He's the second one, right, I would think so, wouldn't you?
So that puts him in to close out the game
for the American League. I would assume that's going to

(21:54):
be the case. So what they got those guys and
then you know, depending on how the you know, the
rest goes before the All Star break, But we should
be well represented there at a time when most people
didn't think the Assles would be sitting in this position
heading into July, and we're pretty close.

Speaker 8 (22:12):
And you factor in what fromber has been able to
do in the last couple and a half months. Where
April fourteenth was his start against the Cardinals where he
went four innings and gave up seven runs. It was
not good. His e er at the time was four
point nine to one. Now it's down to two point
eight to eight. So he's lowered his er in about

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two and a half months by two hole runs.

Speaker 9 (22:35):
Yeah, I'm hidden that dude, And that feels like that's
supposed to take a season to have happened, right, you know,
like to get.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
Started one way.

Speaker 9 (22:43):
I'll see in Game one fifty where you finally get
it down when you're going good. It's been there's been
some quantum leaps this year, and now you got another
injury to overcome. Who's stepping there? Who's stepping up to
the plate this time? Not literally but figuratively.

Speaker 8 (22:56):
Well, I mean, yeah, in this case, it's who's stepping
up to take the ball, That's right.

Speaker 7 (23:00):
And it's so funny too.

Speaker 8 (23:01):
You stole my thunder on Dave Roberts because all the
talking heads on MLB Network and anybody else.

Speaker 7 (23:07):
That Jeff Passings, you cannot overlook what dad, Dave.

Speaker 8 (23:11):
I just do a little bit of Tim Kirchin in there,
but I think that Kirchin would absolutely say, well, now,
Joe A. Spotta, you know you got you gotta look
at him.

Speaker 9 (23:19):
I get all the injuries, but dude, they literally had
like eight nine starting pitchers being that are a nine
starting pictures to the point, you didn't have room for
Walker Buehler, who's who in the past, when he's healthy,
has been there rolling him out there one or two.
You know what I'm saying, right, you have to get

(23:40):
in place for him. So while I understand, but that's
like saying like when the Pittsburgh Steelers I'm going back
to seventies, or when when teams are going at their best,
or the Lakers Michael Cooper is injured, Oh that Bob
mcadool step in, but you got magic and Abdul Jabbar unworthy.

Speaker 7 (23:58):
You know what I'm saying. It's it's like, come on, man,
just just stop it.

Speaker 9 (24:03):
Or at s see when I was there, there's four
guys behind the Heisman Trophy winner that should probably win
a Heisman. Oh your backup tight end got you're starting
tight end and one of your wide receivers got hurt.
But you know that, dude, in the backfield, Otani, Marcus Allen,
they're pretty good. While Dave Roberts, I know the expectations
are always high, but let's stop for a second.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
He's just a good manager. I get it.

Speaker 9 (24:26):
Joe has spot as Jo and guess who. Guess who
Dave Roberts didn't lose this offseason. Mookie Bets and Freddie Freeman,
he Bregman. You know what I'm saying, He didn't lose
those guys. You know, Otani and Mookie Betts aren't playing
somewhere else, the equivalent to what what Bregman and Tucker
mean at least here to this team. So no Joe

(24:48):
spotted they had They were so deep that their backups
probably make the playoffs if they You know, I'm a
little hyperbolic, but you get my point. So I can't
go there. Man, I'm sorry, he's not the manager of
the year. He's had to overcome and congrats to my
San Diego guy, Dave Roberts. But the manager of the
year is right here in this town. Considering and where
they are and then what you've got out of the
guys that have replaced the guys that have been hurt

(25:09):
and then losing two big money free agents at corner
positions in the infield outfield. Nah, you just you're not
supposed to be able to do this this many times.
There's got to be a falloff. It's just it's the
way it is. And probably the most underrated thing in
baseball is what the Astros do with less every single year.

(25:32):
When I say less, not they're not talented, but dealing
through all these arm injuries that guys are they got
more guys in street clothes than they do that they
can find pitching, and yet the guys that are pitching
are getting to the point where they're keeping the dudes
in street clothes. Joe spot is the manager of the
year eighty games in making zero mistake about it.

Speaker 7 (25:50):
Crushing a lot of narratives too.

Speaker 8 (25:52):
And in another guy that we will be talking with
at nine point thirty this morning, Dana Brown. I mean,
you want to talk about maybe even a clean sweep
this year.

Speaker 9 (26:00):
If they go I got news for you. If this
goes on like this and they do something at the
deadline or somebody gets back in injuries, are we gonna
keep denying to what they've done every year? And put yes,
he should be in contention because we don't. Some people
don't like the way he goes through the injuries. He
owes it to his team to protect his team, even

(26:21):
though it may be frustrating. I get it. He's been
pretty damn transparent with us. That's not his job, but
we got to ask it, and so he's got to answered.
His job is getting talent and making it better in
the building so they have a chance in the spot
a win. And you cannot tell me that he's not
also in the running for Executive of the Year.

Speaker 7 (26:38):
Considering what they've done.

Speaker 9 (26:41):
We thought, Kyle, what and then you woke up and said, damn,
two really good contributors are starting at those corner positions
where you desperately needed him, and they know the pressure
that's on them because of who they replaced, and they
haven't batted an eye.

Speaker 7 (27:00):
So yeah, I listen.

Speaker 9 (27:02):
I loved my man, Dusty Baker, as you well know,
friend loved him, and I didn't know what was going
to happenhen Joe took over.

Speaker 7 (27:07):
I just didn't.

Speaker 9 (27:07):
I didn't know if it was he was too friendly
with the guys and great baseball guy. But it's a
difference between being a bench coach and a manager. And
you know what, I love Dusty and I'd still love
him around and here. But when you lose one, you
gotta hope the other guy says, Okay, I can do this,
and I got There is zero issue. As a matter
of fact, he's exceeded my thought probably early. I love

(27:28):
him and I think that he is he is the manager.
Now he probably doesn't care about that now. It'll matter
at the end of the year if this keeps up
and he wins it. It always does. But this team,
I don't care if you want to call him over achievers,
whatever you want to call him, or they just know
how to get talent that knows how to play.

Speaker 7 (27:43):
So did a thumbs up to datea brown?

Speaker 8 (27:46):
No question in the Astros now thirteen games above five
hundred on the season. After the win last night, they
moved to forty six and at thirty three someone three,
two and two, five seven ninety Billy, to see you
right there, will get you involved in the conversation. Just
how how long is that list for the Astros that
Sean was alluding to. We'll discuss it here. It is
the Shawn Salisbury shows. Let's talk seven ninety the seven

(28:08):
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Speaker 7 (28:14):
Billy wants to wig in. Good morning Billy, Hey, good
morning guys.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
And you just nailed it.

Speaker 12 (28:19):
Dana Brown deserves all kind of consideration for Executive of
the Year. When you know, I wasn't sure about Cam Smith.
I was one of the guys was going he ain't
gonna make it through May to be back in triple A.
And that's typical if rookie is not a big deal,
he's still gonna be a great player. But this guy's
a great player and he didn't need Triple A. And
and it's a tribute to Dana Brown and his ability

(28:42):
to identify talent. And let's not forget what west Nesky did.
I know he's injured, but the guy was pitching his
butt off. And it's all because of what Dana Brown did.
The Joe has got, he's got this team in line
to win a championship legitimately, and all of our guys
and I don't know if there's an award for it.
I don't know what these guys get. But whoever our

(29:05):
developmental staff is, those are the guys that deserve all
kind of awards because they're down there in sugar Land.
They're down there a corpus Christy. They're developing this talent
that data is bringing in. And it's guys that you know,
the national media doesn't look at as great players, are
great prospects, but they come up here and they immediately produce.

(29:28):
And it's amazing to watch this organization.

Speaker 13 (29:31):
And I'll end with this.

Speaker 12 (29:33):
Dusty said something that's stuck with me. You win fifteen
games a month. You got ninety wins and you're in
the playoffs, and let's see what happens. We're on pace.
We need pace to do that. We need one more
win this month to get to fifteen. And I agree
with what Thisssy said. Let's win ninety games, win the division.
Let's see what happens. Gratios always, guys.

Speaker 10 (29:52):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (29:52):
I appreciate it, Billy, and thanks Billy.

Speaker 8 (29:55):
You know, speaking of that development development, yep, part of
it's got poached yetyesterday because the Astros director of pitching,
Eric Neeson, gonna go be the pitching coach now at
wake Forest, who, by the way, speaking of like the
way that the Astros, it's not only a Great Baseball Program,
one of the ones on the cutting edge for pitching.
For all of the track man they have like basically

(30:15):
an entire laboratory they're at wake Forest that they put
there all those stuff you get in golf and getting
there for them for base right exactly. RT Louder one
of the guys that's already making an impact at the
major league level. I mean, you know, you're starting to
see some of those guys, and obviously Nissan they feel like, well,
you know, we see what you guys are doing down
there in Houston and especially on the pitching front.

Speaker 9 (30:36):
So you're saying, it's like Liam Neeson taken. That's yeah,
yeah taken.

Speaker 8 (30:41):
And you know when he had the interview with wake Forest,
he said that I have a particular set of skills.

Speaker 9 (30:46):
Yes, but he will find you. I will find you
and I will right.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
I play the same men in every single movie. My
wife died years ago. Now I'm alone Wolf taking on
the power. Who drinks too much booze.

Speaker 9 (30:58):
That's lea base they feel kick and then his kid,
he's like the strange from his kids. And at the
end of the kid and he gets to be a grandpa.
Oh yeah, that's Liam. That's Liam. But Billy makes a
great point about and the truth is you're never gonna know,
not because anybody doesn't want you to know, but you're
never gonna know who all the names are. Because if

(31:21):
there's ever a group that works in silence and probably
celebrates in silence too, it's you know, it fits perfect.
Hey we want power ball if we said, uh, I'm
going to work in signs and celebrate silence. But there
will be signs, and let's side right, who's that guy?
Don't worry about who that guy. That's exactly right. But
there will be signs and you're seeing them. Wake Forest

(31:41):
Plucking tells you there are signs that that we're not
the only ones in that. You know, Billy and any
fans aren't the only ones knows what about those guys,
but it is that what's that guy's name?

Speaker 10 (31:51):
Oh? That?

Speaker 9 (31:52):
And and then he ends up running a team or
managing a team, or pitching coach or a general manager.
That's how it works with the President of Baseball OPS.
So I'm it's impressive. And he's exactly right about the
development and about getting players. And it's so hard to
be a when you scout people, you don't know you

(32:12):
just and when Billy hit what point I was making
is that the national media, you know when he said that,
you know, by their standards, sometimes these guys aren't highly
ranked in the ASTROS organization. One thing I could tell Billy,
and I think we know this. Those national guys that
are on in gals that are on TV don't always
have the answers and hot take sometimes getting away of

(32:32):
good scouting or good tape evaluation. And thank goodness, we
listen to the people who actually are in the building
watching the guys every day instead of somebody yelling at
us on TV A why guy shouldn't play because he's
struck out once and you haven't watched the game in
eighty weeks. So yeah, So, Billy, anytime you hear that
national stuff, matter of fact, get to the point where

(32:53):
you say, hmm, then that guy who they're talking about
that's not very good.

Speaker 7 (32:57):
Let me go take a look.

Speaker 9 (32:58):
At him, right, because you may we may learn and
it's not all of them, but we may learn that,
oh you mean, because you didn't read it in an
article or google it, that you actually didn't watch him play.

Speaker 7 (33:08):
What a shock? And then you're gonna come up with
all these opinions.

Speaker 9 (33:11):
Yeah, I'm not talking about Billy, about the national certain
parts of the national media, and Billy's right. Trust with
these guys closer to the action, See, it's much it's
much easier to judge when you're up close than it
is from far away.

Speaker 8 (33:23):
So we could say that the behind the scenes people
are kind of like Josh Brolin's character in Sacario, you know,
just shows up flip flops.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
You're like, who the hell is this guy always there?

Speaker 9 (33:32):
But you're just like, damn right, or the guy on
tape that's not the superstar.

Speaker 7 (33:38):
Oh oh that's what he does, right, Oh Okay.

Speaker 9 (33:40):
You go to watch a team like you're watching tape, say, man, okay,
I gotta study this guy.

Speaker 7 (33:43):
You're getting recruiting him.

Speaker 9 (33:45):
Yeah, And you're like, okay, he's a five star, but
this three started keeps showing up on tape.

Speaker 7 (33:49):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (33:50):
He's like, who's this guy who's fifty Who the hell's
fifty five? Yeah, well he's a junior and he's not
getting heavily recruited. Oh every time the time I see him,
I'm watching this guy and this dude's the one making
the tackles. Every single time I look up, I always
think of Zach Thomas when I think of a small
you know, not overly recruited, goes to Texas to and

(34:11):
in every time at every game of his career from
high school to pro until he walked off the field.
The guy showed up all the time he's in and
you're looking at how good all the other athletes looking
this guy. And now he's in the Hall of Fame.
So those guys that they go get it's amaze. That's
exactly who it is. It's that, oh yeah, why is
this guy keep shooting up on tape?

Speaker 1 (34:31):
It's here?

Speaker 7 (34:31):
How do the Astros keep doing this?

Speaker 9 (34:33):
That guy wasn't he's a twenty seventh ranked prospect and
he's on the major and he's and he's winning games
and giving him six innings. It's called smart hires, and
and this team's made more smart hires as players. It's
the than than most in Major League Baseball. You don't
sustain and maintain this without it and.

Speaker 7 (34:56):
Fact.

Speaker 8 (34:56):
And that's uh for all the people of you know,
yelling after the twenty twenty COVID shortened season about cheaters
and everything like that. Keep yelling morons because you continue
to have egg on your fan and they all want
to know how we do it here. I mean, anyway,
say we meeting the asses, hey man, all that stuff aside,
How do you guys keep developing these players? Yeah, well

(35:17):
the way we clinic is on a regular basis that
I mean them answering that, well, we'll just take care
of that business on a regular basis daily on the baseball.

Speaker 7 (35:24):
Fan I'm talking to you, Brian Cashman.

Speaker 8 (35:26):
You want to continue to make awful personnel decisions and
then blame everybody else, that's your business, bro.

Speaker 9 (35:31):
He's the epitome if I confess he did it, okay,
knowing that he did it too, So just save it,
say save the you know, the self righteous stuff.

Speaker 7 (35:41):
I don't.

Speaker 8 (35:41):
It's like for Jonathan Allen who sits in after Tripoli.
I forget what Matt said, but it led him to
call him a sub silverspoon goon. Well, in this case
right here, that's what Brian Cashman is. He's a silverspoon goon.
There you go, Well that's a fact. But he's still
running the most popular team in baseball, right.

Speaker 7 (36:02):
And I mean, you know, just being mediocre every single year.

Speaker 9 (36:05):
But again, it's good gig if you can get it that,
you know what, good if.

Speaker 8 (36:09):
You can get Look, there's a certain status to be
reached where you can start mailing it in. Trust me,
we see it on a daily basis in this business. Yeah,
great gig if you can get it.

Speaker 9 (36:16):
Brother, Oh you tell yeah all the time.

Speaker 8 (36:19):
That's the that's the end of the rainbow right there.
Oh yeah, Oh man, this guy needs to retire. Guess
what he'll retire on his joker. A mount of money
that he's got, like that part in Dark Knight. Jep's
got the pyramid of money. That's basically what those guys have.

Speaker 7 (36:32):
I'm mad at them for it.

Speaker 9 (36:33):
Good on them. Yeah, Hey, if you can't dazzle them
with brilliance, baffle them with bs.

Speaker 8 (36:40):
It's all about informing and entertaining and some do one
better than the other. And you know what, don't hate
him for it?

Speaker 7 (36:46):
All right?

Speaker 8 (36:47):
Speaking of that long list for the Astros, just how
long is it? We'll discuss it here as we close
that hour one of the Sean Salisbury Show.

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Speaker 7 (38:43):
Give you a chance to tease the top of the
hour here. But have you seen a Manda Binds? Yeah?
It's sad, it really is.

Speaker 9 (38:50):
Did I saw a picture of her the pre when
she was just like a happy actress and stuff. I
don't ever make fun of it, but I was dead
serious when I saw it. Then I saw the split
screen of her now, so that's a fall now and
I the first thing came to my mind. I thought
she would look like dog the Bounty Hunter. Have you
seen the picture?

Speaker 7 (39:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (39:07):
Oh, and she was one of my favorite hit it.
I'm like set dogged about it. Oh my gosh, that's
the other version of Amanda Bynes.

Speaker 8 (39:13):
Yeah, it's it's nuts and it's you're a parent. Hard
to look at your your a parent. So I would
probably tread lightly on watching the Nickelodeon documentary.

Speaker 7 (39:23):
I can't. It's disgusting.

Speaker 9 (39:25):
Hopefully my that's something my kids will don't, you know,
go about that business as a dad. No, it's sad
really and I'm not being a smile when I first
saw it, and I was like, when I first took
a quick glance, I thought it was Dogged the Bounty
Hunter and that were ruined. Yeah, lives plural. I don't
want to and I don't know the whole story. I
know part of it about how it's falls, and I don't.

(39:47):
I can't those it's gut wrenching and from what I've heard,
I won't watch that.

Speaker 7 (39:52):
I had to stop watching it because I was getting
visibly angry.

Speaker 9 (39:55):
I won't watch that. Yeah, I just can't do it.
But it's a trip, so I digress. I just you
know what you're talking about. Alan Jackson's got the long
blonde hair and that it hit me. Dog the Bounty
Hunter reminded me that I thought that was Amanda Bynes yesterday.

Speaker 8 (40:07):
By the way, Dog the Bounty Hunter family in the
Woodlands really yeah former Actually speaking of the Dodgers, Danny Layman,
who's their bench coach, played at Rice, played in the
woodlandsh Dog Bowney Hunter is his family. His mom's sister
was Beth Man.

Speaker 9 (40:24):
Hear you call it?

Speaker 7 (40:26):
And and Dog Leland Uh what's uh?

Speaker 8 (40:30):
The the the other guy that forget their nickname for him,
But I remembered once being in a Rice Super Regional
game and people were like, Dog the Bounty Hunters here,
and sure enough you see him. He's got the you know,
the the leather tank top on all of that.

Speaker 7 (40:44):
You couldn't mistake him. What what is what's his name,
Dog the Bowney.

Speaker 9 (40:49):
Hunter, Dwayne Dwayne Chapman it is, Yeah, so does anybody
call him Dwayne?

Speaker 7 (40:54):
When do you see him? What's up?

Speaker 9 (40:56):
Dog?

Speaker 10 (40:56):
No?

Speaker 7 (40:56):
Dog? Yeah you do? Yeah, you gotta you gotta call him?

Speaker 9 (40:59):
What can I call him?

Speaker 7 (41:00):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (41:00):
Yeah, But you see that was always you can't say
the hey, what's up the bounty Hunter? Because no dog, dog,
he's gotta it's gotta be dog. Then the boundary if
you don't like you don't know his name, and you
go by and say, man, what's up dog? If you've
never seen him, don't know who he's walking down the
street and he says, hey, what's up dog, he'll think
you know him?

Speaker 7 (41:19):
Of course, you know, like, hey, what's up?

Speaker 9 (41:21):
Dog? It's my dog? I mean, it's just everything. He's
an easy one to hey, what's up dog.

Speaker 8 (41:27):
I can't remember Grace or if it was the Woodland's church,
but he spoke at one of them because they had
it on the billboard right there. You're driving up North
Freeway and uh they had the billboard that Dog the
Bounty Hunter would be there on on Easter.

Speaker 7 (41:41):
So still swim through.

Speaker 9 (41:42):
Wait, so you're safe if you say, oh, man, do
you know himh yeah, it's my dog?

Speaker 8 (41:46):
Okay, absolutely, You just you just don't want him coming
after you. Yeah, So I would say in this case,
just don't do ice, and he won't. He won't come
after you. Because remember that was always But what I
haven't been doing drugs?

Speaker 7 (41:59):
What's the pipe?

Speaker 9 (42:00):
Brother? But what if what if he shows What if
he shows up and you and him start to get
a little chippy, you know, you like roll up on
him because he, for whatever reason.

Speaker 7 (42:11):
Dog's life.

Speaker 10 (42:12):
I don't think.

Speaker 7 (42:12):
I don't think he has to worry about me.

Speaker 9 (42:13):
Right, But if he comes up on you, you're like, hey, man,
I thought and you look at him and you say,
and I thought we were dogs?

Speaker 7 (42:19):
What's he say? Yeah? But then you know I was
talking to my dog. It goes back.

Speaker 9 (42:24):
I was talking to my dog. Well I am dog? Right,
Well yeah, but I was not talking. I know we're friends,
but I was talking to my dog. No, I am dog.
I know we're dogs, but I was talking to my dog.
How that conversation could take off?

Speaker 7 (42:39):
Yeah? How do we get the dog about it? Hunter?
Looking like Amanda Mines post Amanda byd.

Speaker 8 (42:45):
That's that's yeah, it was it was your initiation with it,
and then of course it might be hotter. I used
to love the show. So yeah, I'm trying to remember
who the other one that they used to give a
hard time to his name was, But well, we'll have
that for you, all right, our one in the books,
our two coming up because a little bit of a
lighter note because some of the guys are coming back.

Speaker 7 (43:07):
The list is long for the Astros.

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Speaker 8 (43:53):
The difference with an eighth inning home run, You're on
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Kyrie Irving has signed aar is going to sign a
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Someone three two one two five seven to ninety the
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(44:14):
was Tim Chapman was the other guy that I was
trying to think of. They used to always give him
a hard time because apparently his files were not very detailed.
As everybody else's so you know, at the beginning of
the show, if you ever watched Dog the Bounty Hunter,
it was always they're looking for someone and they would
write their details up on the whiteboard and you know,

(44:35):
go through, all right, who's their co signer, Who's who's
somebody that we can get in touch with, and you know,
try to I think he did. I mean well, I
mean clearly he did. With the camera crew. Yeah, you
know you'd have the camera crew. But I mean, if
I'm not mistaken, I think because there were even some
episodes where they would go to Denver and and do
some bounty huh really, because I mean I think that's

(44:57):
where Dog is from.

Speaker 9 (44:58):
What where's that show? U uh filmed out of? Well,
where's the home location? Originally it was No, it was Hawaii?
Oh the original Yeah, do they not ever do it?

Speaker 8 (45:12):
The Ken Bailbonds, which was the name of his place.
And I remember when we went to Hawaii when it
was like in the throes of that show, and I
saw an advertisement for it, and I almost thought about
calling just to see if he would answer, really yeah,
or Beth or somebody, just to see.

Speaker 7 (45:27):
And I led an interesting life as a young kid imagine. Yeah,
I like it exactly.

Speaker 8 (45:32):
I mean, I'm in Hawaii, and you know that's that's
the first thing I think of, is.

Speaker 7 (45:37):
I mean that could be that can be sentimental.

Speaker 8 (45:41):
I learned, I learned how to put I learned how
to put childish ways behind me.

Speaker 7 (45:45):
Why, I mean to a certain points. I mean there's
still some things I do.

Speaker 9 (45:49):
That be childish every once in a while, I know,
I like it.

Speaker 8 (45:54):
I I pick and choose my spots. Now, I think
would probably be the best way to do. You rather
be twenty or fifty twenty? You would twenty even this
day and age? Yeah today? Now, now here's here's the cap.
You can move to New York City. Oh no, yeah, thanks, thanks, thanks,
but no thanks. You're like when your crib.

Speaker 9 (46:12):
You're trying to protect your house and somebody on the
streets are walking alone by themselves and social workers are
protecting you the police department. I'm good, okay, just figure
I digress, But go ahead. I would join the Guardian Angels.
Oh you think, Yeah, the put the old red gap
onto it, put the red berett of the walk away Curtis. Yeah,
there you go. Sleeve was big of that town, still

(46:34):
is in the Red Jackets. Yeah, gotta have the red Jackets,
no doubt, to go along with it, no doubt. I
think they even have started getting back on the subways
too good, because that was I think that was the
big thing in the seventies with all the muggings and everything.
That's how the Guardian Angels came about. They were like,
all right, you know, we'll be here to help those
those subways are It's like you're it's a it's a

(46:56):
ticket to either a fight or somebody doing something gross
or wrong or beating on something, buddy, and everybody videoing
it instead of getting in there and helping. And I
wust say that. Now, what a great what a great
what a great place.

Speaker 10 (47:06):
Huh.

Speaker 9 (47:07):
It's in such a great city in truth, such a
great city. Awful, awful. Yeah, I have no desire anytime
knowing I'm good. Yeah, I'm good down here and I'm good.
You know, Kenny Webster are good, buddy. Over at KPRC
nine fifty, he was talking about, you know, New Yorkers,
and he was saying, come to Texas. I responded, I said, no,
go to Florida. Yeah, hea'ts. Kenny's right, you go eat

(47:29):
the place fine, but I don't. Boy, we've had some
great cities that have been pummeled by bad leadership.

Speaker 7 (47:36):
Unbelieve it's too bad, too bad for sure.

Speaker 8 (47:39):
But what is not bad leadership is the Astros because
I mean, you look at it at the moment. Now,
the Astros have right now sean fourteen players who are
on the Major League guy l Spencer Arraghetty, who he
posted a video I think last night of him throwing
off the mound, so that's good to see, but again,
not gonna have him back until at least mid July

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probably is what you're looking at now, because you figure
that once he starts throwing in earnest that it's going
to take him about a month to get back. So
there's that, and then you're still gonna have to build
him up even as you go forward. So you're probably
talking what three four innings out of him and then
maybe you can get it to you know, hopefully five, right,
but that's what you're looking for out of him. I mean,

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there are the guys that are the group of JP France,
Luis Garcia and Christian Javier Lance McCullers junior. He did
throw off the mound on Monday for the first time
since the injury, So that's good news. Hopefully that means
that once he's eligible to come off the il, he's
right back out there and he's ready to go. Mention
Jordon in the headlines hitting off a tee and was
going to do the same again yesterday. So maybe towards

(48:46):
the end of this home stand, that's when you see
Jordon is starting to take live pitching, and maybe you
take him with you to Colorado, into La And I mean,
at this point, if you're the Astros with Jordon, do
you not just wait until after the All Star.

Speaker 9 (49:00):
Right, you were about to ask me, say, Sean, what
is your just? From my vantage point, I'll be not
even just pleasantly surprised, a bit pleasantly shocked if he's
playing in a game before the All Star break, when
is exactly the fourteenth, fifteenth, twelfth, somewhere in the.

Speaker 7 (49:18):
Week of I think is it the sixteenth? That week?

Speaker 9 (49:22):
Well, let's see, you got three games, will take you
into then Mondays at the thirtieth, so three more games
at well five, but take you into the the month
of July.

Speaker 7 (49:32):
You'll be at the halfway point at the end of
this series. That's right.

Speaker 9 (49:34):
I heard Robert Ford say that last night. Well we
said it yesterday, aren't you at the end of this series.
I mean, whether whether they've played eighty games or seventy nine.

Speaker 8 (49:42):
They right now have played eighty forty seventy nine. They're
forty six and thirty three, so they played nine games.

Speaker 9 (49:49):
Okay, as we say, yesday, so today the day game,
they will be point they will be well another eight
they're they're midway point after the Thursday afternoon game. That's
eighty one games. They played bucks sixty times. Oh, they're
at the halfway point. Seventy nine games. So at eighty
one games, at the halfway point they are. They'll be
beyond a halfway point when we get through the CUB series.

(50:12):
But I just for me, just maybe it's just the
have no expectations and you never disappointed considering the up
and down of this injury that he's had, you know,
from inflammation to oh there's you gotta you know, you
got to shut it down.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
Did this to me? Was it a little fracture in there?
What have you?

Speaker 9 (50:33):
I'll I'll be more shocked if he's playing before than
after the All Star break. I'm gonna I'm gonna tame
my expectations so there's no disappointment. I'm gonna suggest that
they're I'm gonna my guess is that you're not going
to see him take a swing in a game until
after the All Star break, just to be sure.

Speaker 8 (50:49):
And Zach Dezenzo is still not hitting, so I mean,
he's for sure after the All Star break. Chas McCormick
has been hitting and throwing. In the same goes for
pedro Leone, who has not played with the Astros on
a sixty day right now, right, Yeah, they retroactive or something, yep.
And Jacob Melton and also Brendan Rodgers also dealing with

(51:12):
like Chaz the left oblique, but they've been hitting and throwing,
so at least they get back.

Speaker 7 (51:17):
But fourteen guys Sean and I mean.

Speaker 8 (51:20):
And I didn't even in that group mention Sean Dubin,
who we've talked about going on just yesterday with the
forearm strain.

Speaker 9 (51:26):
Yeah, And my first thought after when when I saw
he was hurt, like you said, is like roll my eyes, like,
oh my gosh, another injury. How do you overcome this?
My second thought was forearm strain. Talk to me in
fifteen days. I just whenever. Now, if the word discomfort

(51:47):
comes comes from anybody in the forearm, I got news
for you. I'm to the point now. Unfortunately, I think
for the best, always like no way, no way, no way.
But I'm also prepared when it's in that part of it.
You're saying the first thing coming, you know what, the
first thing you thought of. Let's hope we're wrong, and
I'm assuming we are. Let's hope it's not more serious.
A little rest, he can come back and rehab and

(52:09):
he's good to go. But anytime I hear it in
that part of the body, I'm like tripping.

Speaker 13 (52:13):
A little bit.

Speaker 8 (52:14):
Maybe I'm just not listening or reading close enough, but
I don't believe I've heard them say discomfort, and sometime
I agreed, that's good, agreed, That's why I'm saying it.
I'm wondering if finally a meeting was had and they said,
we've got to get a little little urbage.

Speaker 9 (52:29):
So I just, like I said, I'm not a negative now.
I always on the upbeat, thinking sooner than later. But
just to taming your expectations will probably keep you a
little more uncluttered and stress.

Speaker 8 (52:42):
It's a trained response, because I mean, how many times
have we had this up? They're closes, Oh, they're shut down?
What how do we get there?

Speaker 9 (52:48):
With all the guys out there try and getting themselves
back though, I mean when you hit the heat here
and you like training outside, I mean with the guys
that heard you could see a guy melting out there.

Speaker 7 (52:58):
I see what you did. It was very good.

Speaker 9 (53:00):
The only guy that's melting out there, it is melting. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 8 (53:05):
We were warned. And the name says it. I mean
an Oregon guy. He you know, he's not used to this.

Speaker 9 (53:10):
Yeah, exactly. Good player though, Yeah, I'm an idiot.

Speaker 7 (53:14):
No you're not. I'm a child.

Speaker 8 (53:16):
Don't don't. Don't be so hard on yourself. You're a
tremendous slouch. Jacob Melton who said that? But was that
ch Chase? Yeah, that's right, Yeah, tremendously that's it. That's
what it was. It was one life. Doctor Peeper is
quite the player, and I'm no slouch myself. Yeah's yourself, short, judge,
You're a tremendous slash.

Speaker 7 (53:36):
One of my favorite lines of all time.

Speaker 8 (53:38):
Well, I think one of my favorite lines is, uh,
Rodney hits the ball and it's going towards Judge Smalls
and then it hits them next time.

Speaker 9 (53:48):
I should yell too, I.

Speaker 7 (53:50):
Missed a feeling. Oh so good.

Speaker 9 (53:52):
There you go, all those injuries, dude, it's the laundry
list nuts reaction. Yeah, there you go. And you know
what else, b back to this about Dana Brown comes
on here. With all these injuries you just named, m
we could actually do an interview for two segments just
breaking down the injuries.

Speaker 7 (54:11):
Of every pretty pretty much.

Speaker 9 (54:12):
You know, we could do the mash, you know, like
we're having the show Mash, and in an hour we
wouldn't be able to get through them all exactly. And
then and they're still in first place headed towards the
ninety wins. We'll talk about there you go, now amazing,
that's the beauty of it.

Speaker 7 (54:27):
And you could be in Colorado right now. Boy.

Speaker 8 (54:30):
Yeah, no, Siberia. We do not need Siberia, all right,
coming up. If they're gonna let this guy do it,
you gotta let him cook. Otherwise it's not gonna work out.
We'll talk about it here. It is a Sean Salisbury show,
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
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Speaker 7 (54:52):
Could you get paid for a.

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Speaker 1 (55:04):
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Speaker 8 (55:16):
Here on Sports Sox seven ninety the Astros one nothing winters.
Last night's over the Phillies. They'll get back at it
again tonight. It's gonna be Colton Gordon against Zach Wheeler,
so you'll have that coming your way. Also Yourdan Albaretz
hitting off at and hoping to progress here soon enough
to being able to face live pitching. But Shane gillis

(55:41):
gonna host the ESPIS And you at one time spent
time at Bristol.

Speaker 7 (55:46):
And I got a brother.

Speaker 8 (55:48):
I gotta believe that you probably found yourself there at
the Espy Answers.

Speaker 9 (55:51):
No, never went went to the the party across the
street at the mondre On Hotel.

Speaker 7 (55:57):
Okay, we have to go party.

Speaker 9 (55:58):
I never you get tickets, but I never went in
the building. And I've got to come clean about And
this is the honesty. God truth. Don't worry to badge
might now. The parties were a blast. I'm not an
award show guy. Never never happened. I've been able to
host some, like the MVP Award in Kansas City for
the NFL.

Speaker 7 (56:14):
That was a blast.

Speaker 9 (56:15):
That was when Peyton and Michael Strayan and ray Lewis Ronerd.
It was fun being up there and introducing those guys,
right those. I've been able to do that.

Speaker 7 (56:21):
But I don't.

Speaker 9 (56:22):
I don't watch award show I haven't watched many award
shows in a long time. I can't even remember. Well
there's too many for me. It's like it's like every
you got to get to it all, so everybody at
least gets participation, right But and that's fine.

Speaker 7 (56:35):
But I mean, you know, stroking egos. I get that.

Speaker 9 (56:37):
And I'm not dogging him.

Speaker 7 (56:38):
That's that's that's what it is. Yeah, I get it.
But it's one long ego straight right now.

Speaker 9 (56:44):
MVP Award at the end of the season, hard work,
all that once a year, a gat. I get all that.
I just I'm not an award show guy. And the
SPS and while it was my company and they put
on a great production and had a you know, they
put a lot of effort, time and money into it
to make it a presentation, get the right host, and
it's great. I got to come clean here too. I
have never, and I mean never watched fifteen minutes of

(57:07):
it the twelve years I was there and the fifteen
or so i've been gone, and since the s wes
have started, I have not watched an hour of them,
probably combined, but I've never seen. I'll go back and when,
like when Peyton was at Peyton and Paisley, Who's who's
he hosted?

Speaker 7 (57:22):
Was it Brad Paisley and him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it
was a good one.

Speaker 9 (57:25):
Right now, I go back and listen it because I
think he's hilarious. Naturally, Peyton is I watched the CMA's
or a CMS. I wanted to perform, but usually for me,
it's a right and it's usually a like if you
told me that the Grammy Awards when he was alive,
that Prince was going to perform, or you know, all
tune it in, or when the when the uh, what's

(57:48):
the one in the when they honor people in the
New York Honor at the with the what's once a
year Kennedy and the Kennedy Center on Awards when led
Zeppelin was inducted and Jason Bonham played the drums to
for the Wilson's as the back of it was a
drummer as they were singing Stairway to Heaven while led
Zeppelin tears in the eyes. And I'll watch something like that,

(58:08):
but I don't do award show, so I'll be honest
with you. You're gonna ask me something about the SP's
other than a clip here, and there is something really funny,
like if Ricky Gervais hosted him, I would have to watch.
I mean, he's priceless and there's been some good news.
But I watched clips. I've never in all the years
I was there, I never set foot in that in
that inside that building.

Speaker 8 (58:26):
In this case, I probably will watch the opening monologue
because she and Yellows is gonna host it.

Speaker 7 (58:31):
You may I'll watch the clip.

Speaker 8 (58:33):
I just I don't set my clock by and that's
where the rubber meets the road on this. Do not
micro manage him if you're if you're hiring sing Yellows
to do this, you can't do the whole Oh my gosh,
I can't believe he told that joke. You can't. You
can't put training wheels on the guy if you're gonna
have him in that position, don't be surprised if he

(58:54):
goes that route.

Speaker 9 (58:55):
Well, don't give a don't give a guy who who's
a marathon guy who can they'll he'll he'll give you
two hours of crushing you and make him a sprinter. Right,
you know you know where we're vice versas. That's exactly right. Yeah,
don't don't don't do that. Let him if you're hiring him,
you know what you get. Yeah, so cut it loose
or it'll just be another fake award show.

Speaker 8 (59:16):
But this is also what we do in society now
we we we love to act so surprised, We love
to act so just taken up back by everything.

Speaker 7 (59:25):
And you know, oh, I can't believe.

Speaker 8 (59:26):
It's like if you paid attention to who the person was,
I don't think it necessarily was going to surprise you. Like,
why why do you want to always continuously not see
the person coming?

Speaker 9 (59:37):
I just to me and I said, when it comes
to comedy, therein lies the meaning of Kylie. We're supposed
to laugh and have fun, and even when it's at
your expense. Now ILike the Tom Brady thing when now
you little regret because you're going, you know, and the
roasts are far worse. They're they're far worse. You don't
have to go on the roast and will roast you.

Speaker 7 (59:58):
That's fine. When you do that, now you've.

Speaker 9 (59:59):
Opened up canters, and and then afterwards you're like, oh man,
that was heavy. Kids and family are involved, but here
when they're making jokes and rolling through it. I don't know, man,
I've never been offended with somebody like a comedian. I'm
talking about a comedian has made fun of religion or
family or at your expense. When a buddy makes a joke,

(01:00:19):
you're like, yeah, and everybody knows it's and you get
a good laugh at it. I just don't understand why
we're offended by all this stuff. It's it's listen, it's
not it's not personal. Well that would joke was at me,
it was personally, yeah, joke hints to joke, wear it, man,
who cares.

Speaker 8 (01:00:33):
It's a huge reason why a lot of comedians now
do not allow phones because it's twofold.

Speaker 9 (01:00:39):
It's I wouldn't if I was a comedian.

Speaker 8 (01:00:41):
You eat a lot of times if you're testing out material.
You don't want somebody else to Oh, hey I got
this great joke. Oh really, so did Shean gillis right,
he had that scene. Oh really, Tony Hinchcliffe had that
exact same one, right. You know Tim Dillon had the
exact same one. Oh you came up with that bit yourself, right.
But the other one too, is for that very reason
of you tell a joke and then it gets out

(01:01:04):
and then of course people, oh I can't believe, like
I mean, Hinchcliffe at the rally this year telling the joke,
and it's just like, do you not understand.

Speaker 7 (01:01:13):
That that's what the guy is.

Speaker 8 (01:01:15):
He's crass, he's rude, but he's he is also insensitive.

Speaker 9 (01:01:21):
That's who he is. Well, that's comedy. If you know
he's insensitive and you hire him, then everybody that signs
up to go to that event.

Speaker 7 (01:01:31):
Be offended.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
You know what.

Speaker 9 (01:01:32):
Sometimes you just got to be offended and wake up
the next day and get back to your life without Whoh,
we're not going to hire him anymore.

Speaker 10 (01:01:38):
Now.

Speaker 9 (01:01:39):
If the guy's slurring, drunk and falling off stage and
doesn't performers an hour late to a set, different story.
When you're hosting an award show or you're doing a
comedy set. That's why we go to laugh and not take,
like to get away from life. You should be making
fun of athletes, you should be making fun of politicians.
You should be making fun of when you see some
crazy skit long nobody. I mean you know what, that's

(01:02:01):
what they do. They take stuff that you're not supposed
to lie you wouldn't laugh out on the TV in
real life, and turn it so we can laugh. Because
we all need a little light in the world. And
that's why commed I think we need more of it.
More offend me all you want at a comedy show,
because you know what, hence the word comedy, that's why
I'm there. And an award show if you want to,
if you don't want to be offended, hire somebody who

(01:02:22):
doesn't cuss, doesn't talk dirty, doesn't and and and never
had sex in their life and stick them on there
and doesn't watch sports and let them just read a teleprompter.
Let it go and quit being offended by everything, even
if it offends you. On a comedy I'm talking about
straight comedy, let it go. That's w's when they're at
their best and if they're laughing at you because you're
part of the joke.

Speaker 7 (01:02:42):
Oh well, she's like a buddy of mine.

Speaker 8 (01:02:45):
Meryl Streep got honored for something, and of course then
she went political. Oh shaka, and of course you know
people standing ovation all of that. My buddy goes, she
could have farted into the microphone and still gotten the
same response.

Speaker 9 (01:02:57):
They wouldn't have mattered. They would not have mattered. You're
exactly right. She could wouldn't have Hell, she could have
just stuck out, stuck her hand out and wave. They
didn't give a speech, and it would not have mattered. So, yeah,
I think he's.

Speaker 8 (01:03:10):
Gonna crush because he's been on Saturday and all of
his perfect and he's and it's cable.

Speaker 9 (01:03:17):
Let him go exactly, let him do what he needs
to do. If not, don't hire him. Yeah, I don't
get comedy. He's gonna be here in September comedy. Yeah,
the sports guy, I'm good regardless of that. He's a
big funny guy, our buddy Todd Fritz. I think maybe
maybe we could pop him in the studio if possible,

(01:03:38):
that would be nice, and let him stay the whole
time and just have the dump button roll.

Speaker 8 (01:03:42):
I'll let him talk Notre Dame and whatever Philadelphia Eagles.
All he wants, he can talk Notre Dame and I'll
talk to you. Sc let's go and he probably I
mean more often than not, I usually will either appearance
or whatever it is, I I end up catching the
wrath of some of the comedians jokes. That's why, like
when I go to shows, I don't sit for bro
because I figure, one way or another, it's it's gonna

(01:04:03):
come to me, and I don't want it to come
to me.

Speaker 7 (01:04:05):
Although right, yeah, we went and.

Speaker 8 (01:04:08):
Saw God Australian comedian. I'll have to look it up
during the break, but he did allow phones at his
at his performance, and me and my buddy went and
saw him at the improv and my buddy just really
quickly checked his phone and he's up there on stage,
got the micro funny looks down. He goes, come on, man,
really you know, just in that Australian accent. And I

(01:04:30):
was just like, oh no.

Speaker 9 (01:04:31):
See that part now that that makes you feel crappy
because You're.

Speaker 8 (01:04:34):
Like because then everybody's looking at my table and I'm like,
it wasn't me.

Speaker 9 (01:04:38):
Oh so you're that kind of friendly. I confess my buddy,
did it? Oh no, no, no, no, not in the moments,
that's what you're thinking.

Speaker 8 (01:04:44):
But like I was just like I think like at
that moment, I just kind of did like the you know,
just calm turned the head and uh, you know, whispered dude,
put your phone away.

Speaker 9 (01:04:53):
Yeah, well you shouldn't have to say that to your friend. Yeah,
you're at a comedy show, right, and if you're setting
up front, you know that it's quite frankly like it's
gonna it's it's like asking a chef.

Speaker 7 (01:05:02):
It's the splash.

Speaker 8 (01:05:04):
Well the world, you know where that you've got the
sign that tells you you Shamo's gonna splash.

Speaker 9 (01:05:09):
And then when you sit there and sham Who's splashes you,
then you're mad that sham Who's splash. Or at the
log ride when you go down here sending a certainty
you're gonna get you're gonna get oh yeah, flooded with water.

Speaker 7 (01:05:19):
That was always the funny.

Speaker 9 (01:05:20):
Time you walk off your whining and I can't believe
I got this web.

Speaker 8 (01:05:24):
Then don't sit there, dude. That was that was like
part of it was the experience that you wrote. You
rode the cyclone and then you went to the title with.

Speaker 9 (01:05:34):
You can't order four big Macs and a and a
diet coke every day for the rest of your life
and expect that the diet cokes keeping you skinny. Okay,
so common sense, man, that's a policy we all should take.

Speaker 7 (01:05:46):
It's not bad.

Speaker 9 (01:05:46):
I just said every day, four of them and think
the diet cokes could off set it?

Speaker 7 (01:05:49):
Yeah, probably not.

Speaker 9 (01:05:51):
Just like if you set up there and it's gonna flood,
you just know you're getting wet. If you're sitting in
front of the comedian and you do something or there's
a chance you will be the butt of a joke.

Speaker 7 (01:05:59):
Especially night before you got a little banged up, and
then you're you're still a little banged up the next morning.
The shows I got, I don't get sensitive. Little a
little fast food burger man cure it cures, it cures.

Speaker 8 (01:06:10):
Make it a double with an egg. You try, you
try to get back to neutral. I remember that was
a line that I heard Matt Matt Ryan say once
and I was like, I like that, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:06:19):
Yeah, sorry, level it out, d there you go. Yeah,
especially after that rough wake up, what are you gonna do?
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (01:06:26):
Coming up here? The astros. We've talked a little bit
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of the night when you're all sleeping in the back and.

Speaker 9 (01:06:47):
And also has to uh, has to deal with you know,
whether there's a party or some fun or people are
having to disagreement. You gotta deal with all. You gotta
be a psychologists driver, yeah, navigator, I kind of got
to do it all. And keeping in time key and
the get back coach, yeah, as well as the hey coach.
We got three time outs left right, It's all there.

(01:07:09):
Those bust I hope they're getting paid reckt because they
sure deserve it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:12):
You definitely deal with the lots, and I mean that's
that's part of it's part of the gig. But I mean,
you know those old school outlaw country guys, I mean
going from state fair to state fair, County Fair to
County Fair, just whatever it was. Hijinks on the road too,
Like if you watched Walk the Line. Remember they're all
sitting around drinking. And I mean, I don't even think
it was fireworks. I think it was like straight up

(01:07:33):
dynamite that they're blowing up.

Speaker 7 (01:07:37):
You gotta keep your mind right.

Speaker 8 (01:07:38):
Probably probably probably some pills mixed in there too, you know,
just to kind of continue to take the edge off.

Speaker 9 (01:07:44):
Probably, you say, probably a few, a few, just a couple.

Speaker 8 (01:07:49):
Hey, hey man, my back's been bothering me. Can you
give me one of those? Oh man, all of a sudden,
I don't even feel my back.

Speaker 7 (01:07:55):
No, there you go.

Speaker 9 (01:07:55):
Because you had a week you got a week back. Yeah,
when'd you heard it? This is a Mike Tice, former coach,
Mike ty Special. Yeah, great guy, the first, oh, phenomenal
human being, one of my best buddies.

Speaker 10 (01:08:05):
Bed.

Speaker 7 (01:08:06):
I'll never get it.

Speaker 9 (01:08:07):
I have a rookie the first time we're hanging around
stretch of lines and trainer comes up to tie you
know word the stretch lines. They go around, make sure
tapes through you and anything tape or you everything good.
You get to your helmet, all that the equipment guys
in the end of trainers And I may not sound
funny you but I was there. I was a rookie
in Seattle and it was training camp and Tyser kind
of takes guys under his wing, just a great dude.

Speaker 7 (01:08:28):
Loves the horses too, by the way.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
Huh.

Speaker 7 (01:08:30):
And so he says.

Speaker 9 (01:08:32):
The trainer walks up and says, Mike six seven and
a half six, say, big tall guy, right he's supposed
to Oh he is, And he said, uh, hey, uh,
how's your back feeling?

Speaker 7 (01:08:42):
He goes, yeah, I do I have a week back?

Speaker 10 (01:08:43):
Man?

Speaker 7 (01:08:43):
He goes yeah, when did that happen?

Speaker 9 (01:08:45):
When'd you get He goes, oh about a week back,
but it's all behind me now, And dude, I know
it sounds cheesy, but I've got a rookie and I'm like,
if what he said in my back? They said, well,
how do you feeling? Mike goes yeah, I got a week back, man,
and I'm like, damn, Tyser, are you okay? And he's
standing next to me and I'm like okay, and the
track goes, when did that happen? When did you get it?
He goes, oh, about a week back, but it's all

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behind me now, and I'm like, you idiot, but I
was laughing. And then I found out that that's kind
of his personality all the way through teammate, Seattle teammate Minnesota.
Head coach in Minnesota loved the guy and it was funny.
Last time I saw tys Er we walked into del
Mar Racetrack in the summer, and I'll be damn, who
do I see like Tys You?

Speaker 7 (01:09:24):
Damn right?

Speaker 9 (01:09:25):
He gets down there and plays those horses for about
a month or so when he goes down to del Mar.

Speaker 7 (01:09:29):
So good dude.

Speaker 9 (01:09:30):
But just speaking to backs and stupidity on a joke.
You can borrow that sometime and give tys credit. I
was gonna see, you got to credit your sources. But
it's better than George Brett's. All his problems are behind
him now, you know. Remember I mean that's what got
him the Preparation h commercial. Oh yeah, it's because the
World Series and they asked him about it and he said,
all my problems are behind me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Now.

Speaker 7 (01:09:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:09:48):
That's gotta be tough when that hemorrhoidal tissue he flares
up and you and you think to yourself, I gotta
go to the rest of them, but I don't want
to go.

Speaker 10 (01:09:59):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:09:59):
That's that's got to be one of those Please don't
let me have to. Yeah, now, thanks and it's a
blowtorch that needs a I'm sure I've never had one
that I've talked to a buddy who has, and it's
it's not And here we are talking about that.

Speaker 7 (01:10:13):
But that's that's a that can't be fun.

Speaker 8 (01:10:15):
The great equalizer in life is plumbing issues. Yeah right,
I'm still horny. Now, Yeah, you have those issues. I
saw so, I saw so you did you did?

Speaker 9 (01:10:26):
Yeah, but that but part of me is starting to think,
I'm staring at you drinking coffee. Part of me starts
to think that you may have been through something. Most
of them are going, who hasn't. Oh, you're talking about
just the overall when you have one of those days, Yeah,
who hasn't. Yeah, when when you need an emodium a
d endorsement?

Speaker 7 (01:10:42):
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 8 (01:10:43):
And you couldn't hurt? But yeah, I'm just saying, you know,
you get, you get the sweat going to be the
sweat on the forehead.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:10:50):
Right now everybody's thinking they looking at their coffee cup,
thinking it's on it's right here.

Speaker 8 (01:10:54):
Well, I mean chances are if you're drinking coffee soon enough,
you're going to be in a similar situation.

Speaker 9 (01:10:59):
I don't think them to do that. So I'm under
the thing I've always thought. I'm under the what do
they say under the guys that I don't think women
do that. I think that it's I don't think they do.
I think I think they were put on this not
to do. They just don't ever have to.

Speaker 10 (01:11:12):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:11:12):
That's why exactly that's my visual because I don't want
to visualize the other part of right, I don't think.

Speaker 7 (01:11:17):
Women do that. It can definitely ruin a perception for sure.

Speaker 9 (01:11:21):
Yeah, so my perception is they don't do that, right,
So we'll just leave it at that. Don't try to
break that, don't get that thought process out of my mind.

Speaker 7 (01:11:27):
Fair enough?

Speaker 8 (01:11:28):
There you go, fair enough? All right, good jumping off point.
Because this guy deserves being astro or an All star.
That guy deserves me star. Before you tell me the names?
How many three guarantees? Three guarantees? Is there a fourth
one in the making? Could possibly be? Okay, we'll discuss
right here. Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues right now.

Speaker 8 (01:11:52):
He's at seven hundred and ninety five plus thousand, and
he's behind Jackson Holiday at just over eight hundred and
six thousand and Glabor Torres at over a million at
the moment. He's having a great season for the Detroit Tigers,
but guys like Jeremy Pania also as well, where he
is still in third behind Jacob Wilson and also behind

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Bobby Witt Junior.

Speaker 7 (01:12:17):
That's a travesty.

Speaker 9 (01:12:19):
There's nobody at the position plan better than him and
impacting their team. I know how good Bobby is, but
you just got to look at the can't just be
numbers or if he doesn't have twenty home runs at
the All Star right not everybody can be Cal Rowley
and have thirty.

Speaker 7 (01:12:33):
Two bombs right now. Whatever it is is, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:12:37):
Paynia impact team, change in the lineup, playing defense, all
those things. He's an All Star, There's no doubt. And
maybe biased because we see him play every day and
we're not listen. Witt Junior may be a top five
player in the league right now overall period. If you're
choosing a team, he ain't getting out of the top
five or six picks.

Speaker 7 (01:12:58):
Maybe Paynia is.

Speaker 9 (01:13:00):
But right now, I judge All Stars by not the
body of work in their history, the body of work
in the season, and I don't think we do enough
of that. We give a lifetime Achievement awards to people
that don't deserve it, you know that, or the bigger
name and people stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:13:14):
Then I get it.

Speaker 9 (01:13:15):
It's an All Star game and it is an exhibition,
so the fans have a say in it. But don't
discount how important it is to the player, who may
have an incentive in his contract, who it may be
on the resume for a Hall of him, all those
things that come into play. Jeremy Payne is an All Star,
and Jeremy Panna, for my money, has had his big
impact on his team as any other shortstop has on theirs.

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He deserves to start, and he's a he's a no
brainer All Star, as I believe Hater is. And and
who'd I leave out of that list? Brown and Hunter
Brown and there's a couple on the cusp, and that's
Fromber's one of them.

Speaker 8 (01:13:48):
I would say that Fromber at the moments is gaining
momentum and might get it because look, it comes to
it that name brand does help.

Speaker 7 (01:13:57):
There's no in this case right here.

Speaker 8 (01:13:59):
If he came a decision for Aaron Boone between Hunter
Brown and Fromber, I think he would go Fromber, do
you I.

Speaker 7 (01:14:06):
Do see I think I would.

Speaker 9 (01:14:08):
I think that right now you go Hunter Brown, and
I'm to the point and maybe and sometimes does having
you know, if it's Hater and Hunter Brown, does it
affect a manager's decision if there's two guys like Fromber
and somebody else in another city are equal, And says
too many Astros pitchers on this one, not players, but pitchers.

(01:14:29):
Let me throw another guy in there, which the good
part about it is love to have Fromber and these
guys get rest. That's the part is a selfish Astros
fan or you want your guys.

Speaker 7 (01:14:38):
It's fun.

Speaker 9 (01:14:39):
I haven't played, but I don't Hopefully I don't have
to throw it any right right. But on the other side,
you want to see your guy once to say there
they're proud. So Fromber's pitched like an all star. He has,
but Hunter Brown's has been. He to me, he's the
no brainer. So and maybe you're right about Aaron Boone,
maybe that's who he'd choose. But there's three, in my opinion, guarantees.

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And then Know Fromber's on the cusp, and that's probably it.
I don't think there's a fifth one unless I'm missing something.
But three three to me are just absolute no brainers.

Speaker 8 (01:15:11):
And the only way as a reliever that you make
it with if you're not a closer is if you
have like an seventy nine e er, like you've just
been unbelievable. Very rarely do you see setup men take it.

Speaker 7 (01:15:23):
It's it's extremely rare. But I mean you would wonder,
you know, why not Brian to brad You for the season.

Speaker 9 (01:15:28):
So it's not going to take a starting pitcher and
he's going to pitch anying for him in the sixth
or seventh or eighth, then it's.

Speaker 7 (01:15:32):
Not going to be a Brad You.

Speaker 9 (01:15:33):
But closer wise, you know Rivera and Hoffman, those guys,
and now you know the way haters pitching, he belongs
to something.

Speaker 8 (01:15:40):
All start to talking about the popularity of astros. I mean,
where Jose Altuve having a good season, he's not having
a great season offensively, where after last night's game he's
hitting two sixty six with a seven forty six OPS
and Jordan Alvarez hadn't played in almost two months and
he's fifth as a.

Speaker 9 (01:15:58):
Designated Well, it's the way it is, like I said,
it's a an exhibition.

Speaker 7 (01:16:02):
It's an All Star Game.

Speaker 9 (01:16:03):
It's cool. It's still the best All Star game we got.
It was supposed to be in an exhibition, right, It's
it's an all you know, it's great and fans want
to see it, and I know Houston like see it.
But in truth, I don't know I did. I didn't
even consider your honor or Al two B for the
All Star team this year based on performance. One's obviously
been hurt, the other's been up and down and bunches
in the lifetime achievement of word. Hell yeah, we want

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him in to be great. I don't even know if
he'd accept it and go I mean doesn't He turned
down a couple of them recently, and so I don't know,
But I'm I would say probably that long shot for
Al two B and longhif if he doesn't win the vote,
long shot for Al TWOV to get in, because he's
probably the numbers. Don't say All Star now, Like I said,
selfish reasons. We always want him in. Does he want

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to play it, does he want the rest? And when
all said and done, if this was the last year
of his career, of course I'm selecting him because I
want to see him and he deserves that. But if
he's playing five mornings here and somebody else deserves it
more than vote the guy and who deserves it but
Elvish reasons, Yeah, we'd love him. I don't know if
he's gonna go or not, but I don't I think
it unless he's voted in as a starter, I don't
think that. I don't think that somebody's gonna say it's

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an All Star first half for him.

Speaker 7 (01:17:11):
I'm not even sure he'd think it's an All Star
first half.

Speaker 8 (01:17:13):
We even mentioned Jake Myers as the guy that's deserving
seven seven sixty seven ops.

Speaker 9 (01:17:19):
If you were choosing a fourth guy outside of Fromber,
who would it be on this team?

Speaker 7 (01:17:24):
Honestly? Position player wise.

Speaker 9 (01:17:26):
Yeah, I know Parretis is put up good. It's a
little right. The third base has got some pretty good
players there.

Speaker 8 (01:17:30):
You're gonna say the power the power numbers, I think
would probably give Parrettis the nod there because I mean,
even with a three zero seven batting average, who's.

Speaker 9 (01:17:40):
The most shocking player on the team this year, Oh,
Jake Myers. There's no question so, and it's in truth.
I mean he's been clutch. He has been absolutely clutched.
So I think it's three. You might get a fourth,
and that would be fromber I don't. I don't think
you're getting a fifth, And quite frankly, I think that's
fair judging today by the numbers. Although we want fifteen

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of our favorite players, and I get it, it's an
All Star game, then't count other than for our viewing
pleasure and for their money or for their three days
of enjoying and being with the fellows and having a
mini frat party and a reunion. And it's great. But
you know, I'm a big guy in believing that you
reward the guys who've earned it. And three for sure,
maybe a fourth. I'm just talking about in eighty games

(01:18:23):
or seventy nine games in twenty twenty five. That's how
I'm judging it. And that's how an All Star unlet's
last year career. Your name's Ripkin or Bogs or Gwynn
or Willie Mays or hell's al two it where we
want you at that last year because we do you
deserve that. I'm not sure that there's I'm not sure
there's a fifth All Star on this team this year.
My three out there playing like you got ten of them.

Speaker 8 (01:18:43):
My three are Penia, Hater, and Brown that but again,
like I said, it comes down to looking at resumes.
I could absolutely see Aaron Boone picking from Okay, well,
here's the deal.

Speaker 9 (01:18:57):
If they get to that point and you're gonna choose Fromber,
then they're better before astros on the All Star team.
If you're gonna choose Brown, then I'm hoping there's a
fourth one because Fromber is pitching like it.

Speaker 7 (01:19:09):
But if you.

Speaker 9 (01:19:09):
Choose Fromber over Brown, then you better I mean then
somewhere along there in your picks Fromber, Brown better be
part of that as well. I don't think you can
get one meaning Fromber without putting the other on. I
do understand how you'd put Brown on and question Fromber
at times, I mean maybe the early start to the
wins losses, even though he pitched well, sometimes he didn't

(01:19:31):
get a win from it or got a loss, however,
but Brown's been more consistent. If you take Fromber, you
gotta take Brown. If you take Brown, I don't know
if you'll take Fromber. But Hater, Brown and Painia are
absolute no brainers to me.

Speaker 7 (01:19:46):
I've seen stranger things.

Speaker 8 (01:19:47):
Happen, though, absolutely grind in and out sometimes does get
you the result you want. We'll discuss that here as
we start hour three on the Sean Salisbury Show. Don't
forget Dana Brown' gonna join us nine thirty for his
weekly visit here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Studios Astros GM. Dana Brown can join us here at
nine thirty for his weekly visit. You were on alf
back to hitting off of at but fromer Valdez last
night though. Sean outstanding for the Astros seven innings out
of him, four walks, three strikeouts. But it was the

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ground balls that you were able to get in this game.
And you get two different times that you're able to
get guys out with ground balls, and you also hold
the Phillies to zero for seven with runners in scoring positions.

Speaker 9 (01:22:24):
To who he is, you know, induce ground balls, get
some double plays and at times last night pitched himself
into a little trouble. Bo was able to pitch himself
out of it and get himself deep into it and
turn it over to a break you. And then then
Hayter pitched like an all star again and did his thing.
But once again, Dan, think about the times when you
get eight nine, ten hits last night, scattered three singles,

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did Suarez and pitched great. It just takes the one
clutch one like last night.

Speaker 7 (01:22:54):
Let's say you lose one.

Speaker 9 (01:22:56):
Or nothing, but you get fourteen hits, right, and they're like,
oh man, the offense erupted, but they didn't get the
key hit.

Speaker 7 (01:23:02):
So I don't know, is it chicken or egg?

Speaker 9 (01:23:04):
What do you prefer more getting all those hits and saying, Okay,
we're alive and well for the big picture, the long
we're starting to get hot all of us, or taking
care of one run victories when you were dominated for
the most part by range of schwaz the whole time,
and then you get one where you punch it the
other way. Imagine if he tries to pull it and

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it rolls over it and hits a slow roller and boom,
you know done, and we don't get the run. And
now you're going to extra innings and taxing a bullpen.
It's all those things. But give me the meaningful hit
over the The quality over the quantity for me always exists.
Now I do understand why some because you've been begging
for more offense, did a fifteen hit night even if

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you lose, You're like, okay, there's the the you know,
moral victory in it that we got. Are they getting hot.
Now we homeward twice lost seven to five. Man, it
looks like it. Or are you sacrificing all that for
the one run win that you got three hits until
you got the home run the opposite way and you
still find a way to win. I'll take the character
builder in the clutch hit more than I will Ooh,

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they just teased me with fifteen hits. Harder to come
by getting ten twelve hits and not getting the clutch
hit or the clutch hit. It's always harder to get
the one when it matters, and they got it last
night from a guy.

Speaker 7 (01:24:21):
Then in spring you had no idea what was going
to help this team this year? Zero there you go.

Speaker 9 (01:24:26):
I mean it was a guy that you even sent
a with a little bit of a journeyman, right and
two three here, two or three other places back here
and going opposite against one of the best pitchers in
baseball and win in the first game of a series
on an opposite field home run and turning it over
to your bullpen. Hater was going in there to keep
it at zero zero in miss one swing of the bat,
Hater's going in there to get another save.

Speaker 7 (01:24:48):
And there you have it. I'll take those any day
of the week. Well, and I mean this is a
series two.

Speaker 8 (01:24:53):
That's I mean, I am not going to get overly frustrated.
I got frustrated with Paradis's where. I mean, you know,
it's one of those situations you feel like you're not
going to have very many chances to be able to
come through against Ranger Suarez. And that strike three call
was abysmal. I mean, it's just talk about the first one,
the strike three call.

Speaker 9 (01:25:14):
Yeah, I'm talking about the strike three call. You're talking
about the sixth inning. Was it exactly before after the
double play? That's when Dubont hit the double play. That's
the one, because there was another one later that he
had a question about when he struck out again later on,
he hesitated with the umpire and again looked back as if
to say and that the second time was a strike.

Speaker 7 (01:25:35):
It was in the zone.

Speaker 9 (01:25:36):
It was a strike, and I think even the TV
broadcast had admitted as such it was a strike. The
first one was that it was outside the strike zone.
And he did have an argument, and you're thinking, right that,
oh lost a moment, and then Hummel comes in. But
the first time, no doubt the second time. It was
a strike to Paradis when he struck out I mean
Suarez last night, you're going to face Zach Wheeler. To know,
you're going to face Christopher Sanchez tomorrow night, who's been

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really good.

Speaker 7 (01:25:57):
He's a sub three r A guy.

Speaker 8 (01:25:59):
It's a situation where you're not counting on a ton
of offense being able to carry you through this. This
is where you rely on your strength you're pitching, and
Fromer able to do that last night. I mean, that's
That's the thing with him is I think we've almost
gotten to the point where you get runners on a walk,
a hit. Maybe somebody makes an error, which Christian Walker
did last night, you know whatever it might be that

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you're like, he's going to find a way because he's
going to get a ground ball at someone. And he
was able to get two huge ground balls in that inning.

Speaker 7 (01:26:29):
No doubt.

Speaker 9 (01:26:29):
And you had mentioned, you know, matchups and key hits
and getting those the timely ones advantage. Listen, you're facing
Zach Wheeler advantage. As good as Gordon's been, Zach Wheeler
is you're going to have to scratch it out if
he's at his best. It's a filly advantage tonight, there's
no doubt. But the way this team has stepped up

(01:26:53):
and that phrases over you stepped up, but the way
they've elevated their play and the pitching staff through all this,
you may get a hell of a matchup, but the
advantage going in, But nobody cares about Van.

Speaker 7 (01:27:05):
She still got to play it. And this is this series.

Speaker 9 (01:27:08):
Man, when you're facing these three, you're going to be
hard pressed all year long.

Speaker 7 (01:27:13):
If you're the Astros.

Speaker 9 (01:27:15):
With the way they're pitching right now, you're gonna be
hard pressed to go bingo bango bongo with three dudes
that are better than this with the way they're performing.
Maybe reputation, but the way they're performing. We know who
Wheeler is obviously, so we know who Ranger Suarez is,
and you mentioned Sanchez. You got back to back to back.
That's about as tough a trifecta as you'll face all

(01:27:35):
year long. And yet they got the first one with
a clutch hit and didn't hit the ball well, so
that the timeliness of it. And you know what, if
you're Gordon, you better be thinking I got to elevate
my play.

Speaker 7 (01:27:46):
Again tonight, and you just do.

Speaker 9 (01:27:48):
But pretty rested bullpen after that, because well, you only
had to see two of them last night. Thank goodness
it didn't go to extra innings and got to the
twelfth or thirteenth, we had to use three or four
more cats. Clutch hitting you never know when it's going
to be that part of it, and another guy who
wasn't expected to be a part of this this year
gets you a clutch hit at the right time, and

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it was impressive. I don't like pitching matchups unless it's
like last night, meaning, you know, mostly if you're turning
on to another game.

Speaker 7 (01:28:17):
I wanted to be nine to seven.

Speaker 9 (01:28:18):
At Wrigley Field, I wanted fifteen to twelve, right win
blowing out at Fenway Park. But when it's your team
and you do it real baseball. Watching those guys work
last night, it was pretty impressive. Pitching out of a jam.
Suarez wasn't really in one. He didn't even get to
get into a jam. It just left one out over
the plate that Humble pounded the other way. Other than that,
he didn't tell me any bad pitches. Did He didn't

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tell me, But the one that he did throw, the
one that he did throw. And remember the bullpen if
you get to their bullpen, they're like in the load,
they're in the twenties. As far as best bullpens in
the league, they're not very good. And John Kinkaid mentioned
that again yesterday about the Phillies. So but Suarez, if
you're a Philly, you wanted him in there as long
as possible, and he was pitching well enough, and you think, well,
a solo home ern pitching as well as he did,

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you're never thinking a solo home run is gonna beat you,
because you're assuming you're up six to one zero zero
puts one out in front, and sometimes somebody will foul
that off. He didn't, and then now you gotta face well,
you gotta face Hater coming up, and right now this year,
that's not been a good remedy for any opposing team
for the most part.

Speaker 8 (01:29:22):
I mean, lucky enough where he does get an O
two hit batsman, but Auto camp was the guy let
off the inning.

Speaker 7 (01:29:28):
He hit him on the back foot, but he swung
right right.

Speaker 9 (01:29:33):
But it's just the way he's I mean, you're to
the point now, I'm not overly stressed out. I mean,
you know, the high leverage I believe Hater is gonna
handle that. Remember, we came into this season saying he's
got to pitch. He's gonna pitch better. Even with all
the saves, there are some things that he left on
the table. I'm sure last year in his mind we
saw it, Ques, well, is he worth all this?

Speaker 10 (01:29:53):
Well?

Speaker 9 (01:29:55):
This is why he's been an elite closer in Milwaukee
and in San Diego, and here you are to do just
what he's doing. And uh, I'm sure he was pleased too.
Oh a chance for a zero zero. I'm gonna go
in there and hold this off until you know Sousa
comes in and the you know after whoever right right
that I don't want to tax it.

Speaker 7 (01:30:11):
And he fortunately got the clutch.

Speaker 9 (01:30:12):
You know, he came up there with the one run
and that's got to be rejuvenated energy two for him
to go out there and struck out two in that
final inning, and they took care.

Speaker 7 (01:30:20):
Of their business. Absolutely did one nothing. Winners last night.

Speaker 8 (01:30:23):
Love to see it, and hopefully you can continue to
play this way, especially on the pitching front. Brian Brandon,
see you guys right there, get you guys involved. Seven
one three, two, one two five seven ninety What it's
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Continue here Sewn Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 13 (01:30:44):
I need to know no now, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:30:48):
Good morning, Brian, how you doing. Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 14 (01:30:51):
Hey real quick, y'all. I was listening to the early
part of the show this morning. Yeah, we're talking about
just the Astros record and when they're behind what twenty
and ozer or something like that, or when they come
from behind us, they hold on to those leads and
that's absolutely wild. Like I mentioned, yeah, something they weren't
doing last year, and it's something that everybody else is,
you know, but it's everybody.

Speaker 7 (01:31:12):
On the team.

Speaker 14 (01:31:13):
It's Stubon, it's Humble, it's Cam Smith. It seems like
whenever they need that clutch hit, somebody comes up with
it and it's not that one guy.

Speaker 13 (01:31:21):
So it's it's.

Speaker 14 (01:31:22):
Refreshing to see. And it's teams like that that are
hard outs and the when you get to the playoffs
and that you don't want to play when you when.

Speaker 7 (01:31:30):
You get to October.

Speaker 14 (01:31:32):
But guys, that'd be curious, ton't know. And if y'all
have anybody out there that's listening, I can call in
and speak to this.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
I would love to know.

Speaker 14 (01:31:37):
But Sean, you might remember back in the day.

Speaker 7 (01:31:39):
You're a little bit older than me.

Speaker 14 (01:31:41):
I mean, I'm in my mid forty, so I've been
watching baseball my entire life, but I've never understood when
when it comes into the umpiring, Like Dan, I know
that pitch you're talking about to Paradus that missed when
you had runners, I think on first and first and
third or second third, and the pitch was clearly inside
for ball four.

Speaker 13 (01:31:59):
But I wondering, I think back in.

Speaker 14 (01:32:01):
The day, Sean, like I said, you might remember, I
think Hunter or Harry Wendeles that used to set up
over top of the catcher, not over his inside shoulder.
And I wonder why that may not be taught that way.
And like I said, I would love to know if
any umpires out there listening, But it seems like they
always set up over the catcher's inside shoulder, depending on
what which way the batter is. And that doesn't make

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sense to me that you miss so many outside calls
because you can't maybe see that little edge of the plate,
And why setting up over the top of the catcher's
head and moving maybe slightly with him couldn't give you
a better outcome. Now, granted they still get three percent right,
but it seems like when it's the crunch time, but

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it seems like they're missing more.

Speaker 7 (01:32:47):
And more calls.

Speaker 14 (01:32:48):
And I'd just be curious to know why One it's
taught that way, and two why maybe setting up over
the top of the catcher wouldn't make more sense in
the long run. Like good show, guys. I'm loving this
Astros team and just the grit these guys have and
uh god, if we could ever get healthy, they could
be really really dangerous down the stretch.

Speaker 7 (01:33:09):
Ran great stuff. It's a hell of a question.

Speaker 9 (01:33:12):
And you know, I think at times where we pay
attention to umpires obviously, but we don't pay attention to
where they set up. And he's exactly right. Back in
the day when the chest protector used to be outside,
the whole thing a big ass thing that was like
bigger than the body. But and then you'd slightly slide
or shift if the player catcher set up inside or outside.

Speaker 7 (01:33:31):
So you'd get advantage.

Speaker 9 (01:33:32):
But but it is a valid point they play if
that's the case with him and the reference he's talking
about Harry Windelstadt, hunter Windlstadt's father. I believe Harry Windelstadt
is a long time hunter who's an empire. Harry Windelstadt,
I believe was a crew chief for many years, but
he's a long time umpire in Major League Baseball at
the time with the Dutch renderts and all those guys.
And I don't I have to go back and look

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some old tape, and I'd like to know some old
video and stuff of games. At how many empires set
up above the head as opposed to inside target. I've
always the two things that have always made me laugh.
And I know everybody doesn't see it the same as
an umpire, because well everybody's eyes are different and with
their perception. But it's right if you're setting up on
the inner half and between the inner side and where
you're setting up the depth procession looking over the side

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of somebody, he said to the outside. It would only
be natural if a receiver's running and he's got two
eyes on the ball or sees the full ball. Depth
perceptions easier. It's got to be harder to adjust from
sitting up on inside, just like if you set up
on the outer part to judge where the inside where
you miss the ones that are an inch or two
off the plate. I'm not saying you're gonna get them
all right, but he does make a point that it's

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got to be easier to see with peripheral vision above
the catcher as opposed to tilted the one side. Even
when he slides, you slide where he's set up because
that's where he's anticipating the ball ending.

Speaker 7 (01:34:44):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:34:44):
But that's a hell of a question. I don't know
how many are doing it and why they don't, and
how many did it in Harry Wendelstat's era, that you're
not missing calls and they do get most of them right,
but we want all of them right. I get that,
and it's not going to happen, but depth perception and seeing.
And I've always laughed, what did they tell you growing
up top of the knees to the armpits right?

Speaker 7 (01:35:06):
Strike zone? That's sort of ye.

Speaker 9 (01:35:08):
So if that's I mean the strike, but that's not
the strike zone. Okay, it's not whether you like it,
But I'm talking about when you're in elementary school and
you're playing little league baseball, was always.

Speaker 7 (01:35:15):
Top of the knees. But why do strike zones.

Speaker 9 (01:35:18):
You know, it used to be like, if you're American
leaguer Nashally, Oh the guy, the guy loves the low pitch.
Is it because the way he's positioned, or he just
thinks it's tough for a pitcher to throw the low strike,
so I'm.

Speaker 7 (01:35:28):
Gonna give him the strike.

Speaker 10 (01:35:29):
I know.

Speaker 9 (01:35:29):
All I'm talking about all the questions that maybe an
amateur baseball fan or even somebody who watched that wonder,
why isn't the strike zone the strike zone? The strike zone?
So what gives you the best setup to see the
strike zone. It's almost like a catcher and Smoltz went
off the other night in a game, guy on first
base catches on one knee. They're so worried about the
framing of the pitch that it's legalized theft on first base.

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You've got anybody who can run, I mean the way
we're and guys who are trying to fame frame pitches
eight inches ten inches off the plate.

Speaker 7 (01:36:00):
Guess what.

Speaker 9 (01:36:02):
If I'm an umpire, You're never get you keep framing it,
You're going I'm gonna I'm gonna miss the earlier year.
It's like, don't offend me like that. Trying to frame
a pitch that's obviously a ball. I just the way
we're training him, the stance of the catcher, And I
was loving what Smolts was saying, the way we're teaching
them on one knee.

Speaker 7 (01:36:18):
Frame frame, frame, frame frame.

Speaker 9 (01:36:20):
What happens when we get the electronic strike zone and
framing doesn't even matter anymore and you got to pop
up and throw people out. Well, I think that's why
it changes. Well, of course, but you better be working
on it. You You just can't overnight change that, especially
when you start to get locked into another habit. We've
we've overemphasized framing, and it's gonna it's gonna backfire because
you're gonna get an electronic strike zone at some point.

(01:36:41):
But he's right about the setup of the empire. For me,
i'd rather see everything. I don't line up over the
left guard. I don't mean when I drop back to pass,
I don't close down so the backside of me I
can't see, I would think. And I don't know if
that makes a difference, but it seems like depth protection
would be easier in a hundred in a in a
hairy windowstat type said, where you're slightly above the catcher,

(01:37:01):
I know, resting your hand on the catcher's shoulder. It's
like I caught and it's like, dude, why are you
leaning on me? I'm tired too, But they do that.
That's exactly right to see. To catch the whole strike zone,
it would seem easier up. I mean, I'm talking about up, down,
and in and out. So I don't know why some choose,
but I always laugh, Well, he's a low strike guy.
Well where's the strike zone? Should we I mean, when

(01:37:24):
you're locked? And should we all be? It strikes that
strikes a strike? But it's not and they miss it
all the time. Uh, but probably get it right, you know,
like you said in the nineties, they get it right
most time.

Speaker 7 (01:37:35):
It's the one or two they miss the drive. It's nuts.

Speaker 8 (01:37:37):
Depending on the time of the game, and that was
an important time. It's the gamesmanship that goes with it too.
As catchers, the good ones, they understand that, shake the hand,
you know, talk with them during the game, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:37:48):
Come up to the plate, tap the tap the catcher
and the umpire with with the with the bat a
little bit and recognize them, which is part of the
part of the bove kiss and it goes. I hope
you get a call, right, they'll last kiss him. But
the truth of the matter is that they miss. And
I wouldn't want their job because I think they, for
the most part, do a really good job. But it's
the timing of some You miss runners and a chance
to score and you get wrung up on a pitch

(01:38:08):
that was off the plate and was it the setup
or was it he just didn't see it or what
have you. But it's the blatant ones. I think that bothers,
not the bang bang plate that's on the black. It
was like John Lipka, the guy that did the Friday
night game in Anaheim. He was ninety one percent accurate
according to umpire scorecard. But it was also more of
the miss calls went the Angels direction. That was what
the Astros fans ninety one percent. Though in life, anything

(01:38:33):
you do in your career usually gets your raise, right, Hey,
j it just does, and it's pretty good. Now you're
driving a car, you want to be one hundred percent
straight correct.

Speaker 7 (01:38:43):
But you know what I'm talk about.

Speaker 9 (01:38:44):
I'm talk about in the careers, ninety one percent, you're
getting a pay raise and a promotion most places you're at,
except umpires and referees, you just don't. Maybe they do,
but I'm talking about NRIs. He missed four percent. It's
even more than three calls out of one hundred and forty.
It's even more than quarterbacks. Yeah, NOC defensive coordinators a
point you know. Oh hey called a great game except

(01:39:05):
for that third down. Yeah, oh yeah, just like we
scored forty, but they wanted fifty two.

Speaker 8 (01:39:10):
It's not enough, right exactly, Gary don Brandon. See you
guys right there working into the conversation. Do you want
to work in a little bit of a rockets note too?
Later bit a little bit later on in this hour,
don't forget an hour from now, Dana Brown astros GM
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Speaker 7 (01:39:36):
Hey, good morning, guys.

Speaker 11 (01:39:37):
I'm calling about my opinion on the All Star Game
coming up, any baseball, football or whatever. But first of all,
on the umpires. Their human nature, so they're going to
miss some and so forth. But the deal is the
batters need to are supposed to adjust to the umpire.
You know, the umpire's not going to adjust to the batter,

(01:39:58):
so you have to adjust to the umpires. So anyway,
on the All Star Game, you guys are going to
freak out when I tell you what my opinion on this,
and this is strictly for the teams that are still
in the running for a playoff position. So I believe
that the players that are are that are voted onto
the All Star Team should not go to the All

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Star Game. I think they should stay at home, rest,
be with their family, sleep, eat, completely decompressed, because if
you go to the All Star Game, it's just like
continuing the season, the flights, the interviews, the practices and
so forth.

Speaker 13 (01:40:34):
So they didn't really get any break or anything.

Speaker 11 (01:40:37):
So I don't know if probably nobody else out in
the world sees this thing my way. But and injuries
can happen too, So I'm all for the the acclimates
that they get and the camaraderie with their the people
that they play with, But I just wish all of
them would just stay home and decompress and come back

(01:40:59):
fully charged up for the first game after they all start, right,
So have y'all heard of anybody thinking that way.

Speaker 7 (01:41:07):
No.

Speaker 9 (01:41:07):
I think individuals at times, like some will go, like
when you get some will go maybe they're tired, or
they'll like I got a hamstring because they want the
days it's like used to happen to the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 7 (01:41:16):
Well, yeah, and he's been a guy and he and
yeah and healthy enough.

Speaker 9 (01:41:22):
Right back in the Pro Bowl days like Marin would
get selected for the ninth time. Yeah, and instead of
going to Hawaii because that's the time like at and
T Pebble Beach was going on, he'd say, I got
to get my knee cleaned out, and Dan would be
played at the one of those guys like, yeah, we
know why that's right. At that time, it was probably
Pat Summer, all right, So with Marinos, So yeah, I

(01:41:44):
get what he's saying. But if we did that and
every team had the same thought process, we the good
players wouldn't go to the All Star Game. But I
understand when he's right, it's nice to have him go,
and you hope that the player gets won at bat
and plays a couple of it gets out, but you know,
it's it's an honor for them to be there. So
I don't think we'll ever going to get to that point,
but there will be some I'm sure that have a

(01:42:04):
little bit of twins and they're like tired and they say,
like you mentioned al too, it's like I'm going to
spend family time where get away from it for a
minute and they know their body pretty well. But in
case the most, the baseball and pro sports encourage you
if you can.

Speaker 8 (01:42:21):
To play well. I mean a first a first time.
I mean, you want to go through that, you want
to get to experience, you want to go because.

Speaker 7 (01:42:29):
You run derby.

Speaker 8 (01:42:30):
All of that I mean, and it's I mean to
the baseball activities that Gary was alluding to.

Speaker 7 (01:42:35):
It's as relaxed an atmosphere as possible.

Speaker 8 (01:42:37):
Yeah, you get some swings in on the field if
you're in the home run derby. I understand what people
have said about whether it does changes. And second you know,
second half of the season.

Speaker 7 (01:42:46):
I actually hit all that.

Speaker 8 (01:42:48):
But I mean for a guy like Jeremy Panea, he
doesn't know when he's going to get another one of
these opportunities. A guy like Hunter Brown, same deal. I mean,
Josh Hater's been in a few, but for Hater, you
pitch an inning and you go.

Speaker 9 (01:42:59):
Home with the lack of Pete Rose ray Fosse contact
we have now, you know, you hope nobody pulls a
handy going to get a ball in the gap. I
would probably, and I know you can't tell great athletes,
but it's like on the practice field when you're working
with somebody and you're throwing routes on air.

Speaker 7 (01:43:14):
You tell them don't dive on them.

Speaker 9 (01:43:16):
You need to dive, and right now I understand your
effort doing it, but if the ball misses, I don't
need you on the ground right now. We don't need
to tackle guys to the ground. We don't need It's
the same thing there. Hopefully, you know you want to
be competitive. I know some of the rules have taken
that part out of it competitive. Those guys are just
built in to go make a diving catch in the gap.
But for the most part I think that they injuries.

(01:43:39):
You may be tired from the season going in or
the home run derby, because maybe change your swing because
you want to hit it on the you know the
way your launch angle is approached the ball. But in truth,
rarely do we have a guy that walks out of
the All Star Game with a major injury.

Speaker 8 (01:43:54):
And for the most part, the starters, once they're out
of the game, they're in the clubhouse, showering and support
their buddies, right to enjoy a couple of more days
off before the season gets going. Like it's as soon
as it happens, you're pulled from the game, right then.

Speaker 7 (01:44:07):
It used to it used to be in old days.

Speaker 9 (01:44:10):
There's times you'd see guys six seven innings playing the
All Star Game. I mean he played. They wouldn't just
go in I mean pictures. But I'm talking about every
day players. If if you loved Reggie Jackson was playing
in Oakland, you might see him for you know, in
Oakland Alla Media County Coliseum, might see him for seven hours.

Speaker 7 (01:44:23):
Some guys have played more.

Speaker 9 (01:44:25):
But now it's trying to get everybody in unless it's
a picture that's got to start coming out or started
the you know, the the Monday or the Friday before
the Sunday before the All Star Game. And you don't
want to put him in, But I understand what he's saying.
You want a ball hog safety. But and in this team,
you hope that you hope it doesn't happen. But I
would anticipate that the players also understand the severity to

(01:44:45):
their team of what what it matters by doing something crazy?
But how am I going to tell Ronald Lacuna not
to go for a ball in the gap?

Speaker 7 (01:44:53):
Right? Or how am I going to.

Speaker 9 (01:44:54):
Tell Payinia not to take third when it's a double
and he's competitive and wants to get the third.

Speaker 7 (01:44:59):
That's just human nature and competitive. It's tough.

Speaker 8 (01:45:01):
It's like remember Barry Bremen, the great impostor guy. It
would just like, you know, find his way into certain situations.

Speaker 7 (01:45:10):
He regularly at different events and stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:45:12):
He was the All Star Game here in Houston in
eighty six and he got out there on the field
in a Mets jersey and looking like a ballplayer and
Tommy Losorta and he was miked up because if I'm
not mistaken, I think Bob Allen, who used to be
at Channel thirteen, kind of put him up to it
and had him miked up. And Losorta is just dog
cussing him getting off the field.

Speaker 7 (01:45:32):
Get off the field and.

Speaker 9 (01:45:36):
There, yeah, nobody and tom Tommy had Tommy had a
reputational of up to so that got out there.

Speaker 8 (01:45:42):
So Tommy was upset about that, but it's like, well,
most people know about you, Tommy.

Speaker 9 (01:45:47):
I'm sitting in Tommy's his locker shower, his office.

Speaker 7 (01:45:52):
At Dodger Stadium.

Speaker 9 (01:45:53):
Yeah, and Sacksy had just Steve I was there for
him and Mike Marshall visit. He says, get getting me
and my best friend from Sean get in here. We
go and sit in his office away from the locker room,
and I love it. He's dude, it's every there's mother,
I mean, saxy and he loves him. But he's f
bombs his fill word and we're sitting there and he
goes and he hated if you wore open toad shoes.

(01:46:15):
Get these guys some showers, saying hated it. So we're
sitting there and waiting for those guys in the locker
room to shower. They're putting the spread out and we're
sitting there. We're in Tommy and Tommy's just dragging around,
balls dangling down to his calves. You know, he's old,
and you well, you want the truth on this show
and you want to fake. But they're just dang and
he's he's dog cussing and there are people putting the

(01:46:37):
spread in his room and he's but it's it's part
of the conversation. It's not like he would say the
same thing if Saxy walked in, right, get these mother,
and that was just his fill word and Sean, how's
it going. He'd be talking about how do we do this?
And we won this? We can't leave a guy on second,
we can't throw the ball away, and an F bomb,
and then there's entertainers over there trying to get in
the spread. I'm thinking, I'm literally sitting here with a

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naked Tommy Lisorda.

Speaker 8 (01:47:00):
We not have h towels and the Dodger Stadium clubhouse.

Speaker 9 (01:47:04):
With his clackers go around telling me Dog cussed my
buddy in a good way, but Dog custed him because
of something that he did in the game and wants
to go over and grab some postgame less agna and
he's done, and then he's pissed at us because we're
wearing you know, whether it's flip flops in the summer,
I can't remember, but he doesn't like that. And it
was like, I'm like, this cool bastard.

Speaker 8 (01:47:25):
Admit it. Yeah, it admitted. You never saw Tommy Lasorda
the same ever again. I would never be able to.

Speaker 9 (01:47:31):
See you because because he cussed. Well, no, it's for
the appearance. Yeah, that's maybe the first time I've ever
it's not a pat. It was like, oh we mentioned
Asorta said, oh do you cuss? When you say, oh,
he was cussing. You think aside from Jerry Burns, my coach,
nobody that I've been around, it could fit in an
F bomb faster and quicker and just more efficiently than

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my head coach in Minnesota Jerry Burns and Tommy Lesorda.

Speaker 7 (01:47:58):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 9 (01:48:00):
It's to the point where it's you don't even hear
him anymore because that's just he liked to cuss. And
he was a classic dude.

Speaker 7 (01:48:06):
Of the time.

Speaker 8 (01:48:07):
Notice he left those out in the old Slim Fast commercials.

Speaker 9 (01:48:10):
Yes and no no, no, no camera phones, you know. Okay,
so went in the locker room. Hey, look at I'm
in the Dodger locker. Now that's one you didn't want.
But they're just sitting there. But it's Tommy Losora talking.
So you're not getting up to say, coach, well we'll
go out, you know, or skip, we'll get it, he said.
And he loved because he and Dada were tight and
he loved, he loved s c everything right. And it
was I'm sitting there thinking, I'm sitting here, look at
Tommy the Sorda naked, cussing Saxy out because he threw

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the ball away or something I can't remember, and I'm like,
I looked at my buddy said, dude, weird. It's good
to be us. I remember, even if his crackers are sitting.

Speaker 7 (01:48:42):
In front of us. It's Tommy Lysorda.

Speaker 8 (01:48:43):
That was the the old days of going into the
manager's office for the post. He had no shame when
it comes to that stand cow. For the most part,
it's out in the hallway. They've got, you know, a backdrop,
all of that. You got to get your sponsors in.
But we were in there for Lesorta and it was
twenty eleven and it was that Maverick's Heat series in
the NBA Finals and the guy's asking Larusa question and

(01:49:07):
Larusa goes, hurry up, men, the game's about to come
back on, like saying like, I'll answer your question, but
you better get your question.

Speaker 9 (01:49:14):
Out because once that game comes back on, this press
conference is so done. It's exactly right. I'll tell you
another thing too, with I guess. Don't let me lose
my train of thought. I'm so intrigued with the whole
just the whole gamesmanship that goes in with how they
handle press conference.

Speaker 7 (01:49:30):
It'll come to me.

Speaker 9 (01:49:31):
It was about Lesorta, and I can't remember what I
was gonna say to validate what you were just saying
as well.

Speaker 8 (01:49:37):
Maybe you didn't like Chevy Chase after fletch Tommy Lesorda. Huh, yeah,
that's right. I hate Tommy Lasorta. Yeah, there you got
the picture.

Speaker 9 (01:49:45):
I uh, but it was those moments where you're like, man,
this is this is really cool, but just how they
handle ball clubs and it was like, I'm living the
dream and this that wasn't exactly the way I wanted
to live at that day, but it makes for a
hell of a fun story. And uh, certain things you
just don't forget, and that is one the visual. Yeah,

(01:50:07):
but he was, he was. He was great to us man. Also,
lucky for me, we didn't deserve to be in that situation.
We just had friends in the right place.

Speaker 8 (01:50:13):
Well, lucky for me, it was an Astros kids baseball
camp in the infield droller doing was right in front
of the third base dog out at the Dome. Tommy
Lasorda comes out and of course me, hey, mister Losorda,
and he's how you doing.

Speaker 7 (01:50:24):
Young man?

Speaker 9 (01:50:25):
Yeah, giving he was full uniform. Give great dude, right,
he just he loved it. And if you want an opinion,
he'll give it to you. But he loved his Dodger baseball.
He was so fun to watch. And you know, it's
rare that the personality of your team starts with the manager.
I mean, I understand you take on the person as
a player, but I'm talking about like the face with
all those great Dodgers, Kurt Gibson's and all of them,

(01:50:45):
Lesorda was still well. Vin Scully and Lesorta, two guys
that didn't have the bat in there hand were the Yeah,
I was right there in the heat of it. Man,
it was rookie, it was it was it was well,
it was just odd the there was they were. It
was unbelievable actually being in be in l A at
that time with the Lakers and Dodgers.

Speaker 7 (01:51:01):
It was crazy. They didn't like us, And well it
hasn't much changed around these parts either, That's right. What
a gem. Tommy Lasorda was just a gem. Astro's fans
didn't feel the same way. I understand, but they probably
would have. Even media.

Speaker 9 (01:51:14):
Take you from the baseball diamond, competitive guy, and he
made sure you had his emotion as time. As time
goes on, it's like, eh, you know, it wasn't so bad.

Speaker 7 (01:51:21):
Good good guy, difference maker. Everybody loved him in that town.

Speaker 8 (01:51:24):
So it's kind of like people with Steve Spurrier now,
Like if you're a Florida State fan or any other
fan of a team, you're just.

Speaker 7 (01:51:30):
Like, eh, you know I said about arch Manning. I'm
we're going to get to that.

Speaker 8 (01:51:33):
Yes, yeah, we will have that here before we get
close up business on a Wednesday edition.

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Don see you right there, Brandon.

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Speaker 7 (01:53:48):
Don on a mobile wants to weigh in Don, good morning.

Speaker 13 (01:53:52):
Hey, what's up man?

Speaker 10 (01:53:53):
Hey?

Speaker 15 (01:53:53):
I want to get rid of some of these myths
about the empires and what we're doing and how we
get set up and stuff. And as I'm going on
the road, so if if I lose you.

Speaker 13 (01:54:03):
That means I went out of pocket somewhere. I'm going
to try to explain it.

Speaker 9 (01:54:06):
Hey, Don you so, Don, you got answers for our callers,
so you get an idea about the setup right to
fill us in because you're more explate at this.

Speaker 7 (01:54:13):
Yeah, please, Yeah, I'm thinking that.

Speaker 15 (01:54:15):
I'm thinking to tell you all exactly how we get
set up in what we're doing. The first thing we do,
if we put our nose in the river. The river,
let's talk about a right handed batter. Left handed batter
is going to be exactly the same, but the right
handed batter, we're gonna stick our nose right down the river.
The river is the point between the batter's box line
and the plate. There's that little six inch area right

(01:54:35):
there that we're going to put our nose down.

Speaker 13 (01:54:37):
That's our starting point.

Speaker 15 (01:54:39):
What happens is the catcher's gonna set up and we're
going to set up just right above his left shoulder.
When we get set up above his left shoulder, we
want to see all five points of the plate. If
we can see all five points of the plate that
we're set up in the right spot, you're going to
see umpires stick their right hand out and put it
barely touching the shoulder of a catcher. What that is

(01:54:59):
is that right hand is touching the outside portion of
that plate, that bottom point of that plate. That's where
our right hand is it kind of gives you a
feeling of when that ball comes in. If it hits
that area right there, you can definitely feel it.

Speaker 13 (01:55:16):
It's not a seeing thing, it's a feeling. But what
winds up happening is that a lot.

Speaker 15 (01:55:21):
Of these catchers they study umpires on their weak points,
and they're strong points. And what happened on that parades
inside strike that I saw, and I'm only just because
I always watched the umpires.

Speaker 13 (01:55:35):
I've rarely ever watched the games and.

Speaker 15 (01:55:37):
Stuff like that, but what I saw was that the catcher, Muvedo,
he scooted over and he haugged the inside portion of
that plate, and it made it look like that the
umpire was looking over the top of the catcher. We
never want to look over the top of the catcher
because that's where the ball is going to go. And
if you're in the direct line of where that ball

(01:55:58):
is and if you've ever had a concussion from that
foul tip coming back, man, I'm want to tell you what,
it'll ring your bell.

Speaker 13 (01:56:04):
So you never want to be over the top of
the catcher.

Speaker 15 (01:56:06):
The catcher puts us in that position, and you know,
we just we don't ever want to be there.

Speaker 13 (01:56:12):
Strike zone hit.

Speaker 15 (01:56:13):
The strike zone is the top of the The strike
zone is the top of the ball, bottom of the knee,
and two balls above the bell. That's our strike zone.
There has nothing to do with an armpit. The rules
says armpit. But i'll tell you what.

Speaker 9 (01:56:24):
Yeah, nobody follows.

Speaker 13 (01:56:27):
Coaches, right.

Speaker 9 (01:56:28):
That was the little league talk, you know when you
got the Little league was always armpit, the top of
the knee. Right, So I wonder, and you've explained it well,
so don let me let me ask you real quick.
And we got to go to break. But I got
about a minute with you. Is when you set up.
But you're right, but you don't want to set up
above an old school some did. He mentioned Harry Waddlstadt,
but I had so. So the only reason you don't
set up above looking where you can see all five

(01:56:48):
points above the catcher's head is because of the safety
for you guys. Otherwise you okay, that makes sense. Now
does depth perception? So your right arm, when it's set
up out there, that's helping your depth perception. If it
clears the right arm, your your tendency is to think
it's outside the strike zone. Because my arm's on the
outside part, set up on the catcher's outside part. Anything

(01:57:10):
outside of that depth, perception wise, you're inclined to call.

Speaker 7 (01:57:13):
A ball correct.

Speaker 13 (01:57:14):
That is correct, That is correct.

Speaker 7 (01:57:15):
Makes sense great, That's why it.

Speaker 15 (01:57:17):
Happened on that inside what happened on that inside strike.
You know, I don't blame the umpire for calling that
a strike because mutold he he scooted it over and
he raised his head up and he stole that inside line.
And basically it's a fifty to fifty shot. It's a
guest line now because I mean, he took the visual
point out of what the umpire could actually see. And

(01:57:37):
the ball didn't miss by much. It probably missed by
half a ball, and that was it. So you know,
you can't let something like that go. So you know,
some umpires are good, some umpires are bad. You know,
I hit it about ninety five ninety five and a
half percent accuracy during my games and stuff, and you
know that's usually that's pretty accurate.

Speaker 9 (01:57:55):
Now, I don't want you, yeah, even apologize sometimes. Yeah, yeah,
I don't want that, gig man. You guys are two guys. Man,
we'll criticize it. Well, you don't want to do it
because it's too hard a job. Great explanation on why
they did that. Absolutely, you're invited back anytime. Don appreciate that.
Don thank you, Bud.

Speaker 7 (01:58:10):
Thanks man. No, I mean that's interesting.

Speaker 9 (01:58:12):
So it's just simply safety, not aside a line of
sight for why they don't line up.

Speaker 8 (01:58:19):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean when I you know that,
when I was younger, I caught, and then as I
got older, went away, went over to first base, but
I would catch every once in a while during the summer,
and I remember the ball got past me and it
hit the umpire in the in the shing garden. He
was a pitcher in college. He goes, hey, man, I
need my legs. Yeah, so like you got to you
got to get to those you almost as a catcher,

(01:58:39):
which I was in high school as well.

Speaker 7 (01:58:41):
You see, you have.

Speaker 9 (01:58:43):
The part of the deal is protecting the umpire and
he expects it, and I get it tough of ninety
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Speaker 8 (01:58:51):
Make make sure it hits the webbing of the glove,
not me, and the chest protector, no doubt.

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All right, speaking of.

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Speaker 8 (02:00:09):
Sean, Dan Tripoli, Emmanuel Elmore hanging out with you here
this morning, Astros GM, Dana Brown going to join us
here in a little over twenty minutes. The Stros do
win last night one nothing over the Phillies. Cooper Hummel,
thank you very much. Ay th Inning go ahead home
run and fromber throws seven innings to get the no decision.
Jordan Alvarez hitting off a tee as he tries to

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work his way back from the fracture in his hand.
Get to the Astros and how good they've been at
these scenarios this season in just a second, but Brandon
wants to weigh in.

Speaker 7 (02:00:43):
Brandon, good morning, good morning, How are you good man?

Speaker 13 (02:00:46):
How are you good?

Speaker 4 (02:00:49):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (02:00:49):
I had I Gord cool.

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Mine, Sewan?

Speaker 7 (02:00:55):
How are you doing great? Brandon?

Speaker 1 (02:00:57):
How are you good?

Speaker 13 (02:00:59):
He guys?

Speaker 14 (02:01:00):
Card huh yeah, Dan was fired up.

Speaker 7 (02:01:03):
Let us know. I like it absolutely, yep. How about KD?

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
I like it?

Speaker 10 (02:01:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:01:11):
It's a good pickup.

Speaker 8 (02:01:12):
And something we're actually going to talk about in this
hour is just how good of a pickup it is
for the Rockets. But how about how about fromber last night?
How about those Astros being able to find a way Brandon.

Speaker 1 (02:01:23):
On my things? Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 7 (02:01:27):
There you go.

Speaker 8 (02:01:28):
Well, hopefully they can get at least one more in
this series and take two from the Cubs and be
able to make it a winning, winning homestand against two
really good teams.

Speaker 13 (02:01:39):
Yep, there you go.

Speaker 7 (02:01:40):
All right, man, We'll let you get back to your game.
Appreciated buddy, have a good one, all I see. Man.

Speaker 8 (02:01:46):
Yeah, the Stros with that one run win last night, Sean.
I mentioned it earlier, sixteen and seven in one run
games this year, and a.

Speaker 7 (02:01:56):
Lot of the oppressive statistic in the first half.

Speaker 8 (02:01:58):
Of the season massively ompressive because you factor in they're
nine games above five hundred in those scenarios, they're thirteen
games over overall. And I talked about two of comeback
wins where it's if they get a lead late, even
if they have to come back and get it with
that bullpen, they don't give it up.

Speaker 9 (02:02:16):
They sure don't, which has been as big as strength
for a team that's needed it. You know how some
teams like when this guy's got to come in and
he's giving you an MVP performance or somewhere else or
man alive, they haven't hit, and they this year. This
part of the back part of the order is carrying
a team. You know, you hear it all the time.
For this team here, the importance of what the bullpen

(02:02:36):
and the fill in starting pitching, and I don't mean
that derogatory, just is they weren't starting pitchers when we
started this season, have been as good for this team
as any other strength for any other team has been
for Theirs, whether it's pitching, hitting, bullpen, one guy cal
Rawley's ridiculous start with power at the beginning of the season,

(02:02:56):
whatever it is, nobody's had a bigger strength for their
team then the Astros overall. Pitching has for Theirs, considering
the circumstances going into a season, which is huge.

Speaker 7 (02:03:07):
And now we're saying all that.

Speaker 9 (02:03:11):
And twenty and to zero coming from behind in a game,
they are twenty and oho and sixteen and seven, as
you mentioned, in one run games that will be that
will be as impressive as any team that wins their
division when this season's over.

Speaker 7 (02:03:25):
If this trend.

Speaker 8 (02:03:26):
Continues, No, it's a massive trend that you want to
see continue because it's also one that that's what postseason
baseball is. These are these games like last night, where
you do get an opportunity to be able to score runs,
you better make the most of it because you might
not get another chance and you might lose the game
two to one, one nothing, whatever it might be, because the

(02:03:46):
other team has a really good guy pitching for them,
hence why they're in the postseason. And I mean the
Astros when they've been at their best. They've been able
to do that last year. That's what kind of frightened
you a little bit of Man, is this kind of
really a true sign that this thing is starting to
turn a direction you don't want to see it turn.
And I mean credit to this team of being able
to find ways to get it done late in games,

(02:04:08):
because I gotta tell you, Sean, you're going to get
into that situation maybe they're down four to three in
the sixth inning in the alds, where you're going to
have that dugout looking at each other saying we've been here,
we know this. The football example that comes to mind
for me is all those criticisms that used to come
to Dabos Sweeney's Clemson teams when they were making their

(02:04:28):
national title runs. Oh well they you know, they don't
blow anybody out, Okay. But then here's the beauty of it.
They get to those games. They don't worry when they're
in those games because they know that they can find
a way to win it.

Speaker 9 (02:04:39):
It's not foreign. It's just not foreign. They've seen the
movie before, and then their expectations are they know how
to win it. Make no mistake, contagious learning, how to
win and learning how to lose is contagious. It is,
and the more you sit in it, the more it
becomes engrossed in your DNA. Just does I've been on
teams on that we're far better than a two game

(02:05:01):
losing streak, and you're like, man, we can't stay here
long because you start to and or you'll go through
a season it's like, we're so much better than this.
How are we winning one, losing one, winning two, losing two?
How is this happening? I know the other guys get
paid too, but there is there is something to be said.

Speaker 7 (02:05:15):
I know we don't most people.

Speaker 9 (02:05:17):
We don't talk about enough, but the ability to understand
not only how to win, but to that you expect
to win.

Speaker 7 (02:05:23):
And there's a big difference.

Speaker 10 (02:05:24):
Man.

Speaker 9 (02:05:24):
There just is well win, you know, we all want
to win, but the expectations and some yeah, man, we
want to win late any games. The problem is if
you're in them and don't win them, it's only human
nature to go in and say here we go again.
And it's also the other is true if you're in
them all the time Clemson and it's seventeen to fourteen
in the fourth quarter, when you're used to winning forty

(02:05:46):
seven to ten. If you're somebody else and they win
close games, I would imagine in postseason football and in
postseason baseball, most of them are close and there is
something to be said. And I don't care what anybody says. Psychologically,
I've seen it when in your own world golf basketball,
if you're a great free throw shooter under pressure, Larry Bird,

(02:06:10):
Steph Cree does not go to the line thinking what
if I miss? It's when I make this what happens.
It's the same thing here right now. It appears from
my vantage point, I imagine yours too, Dan, that when
you're watching the Astros, they expect, oh, we're up one ball,
game's over. Not that they're gonna take it for granted,
but their expectation is these are the games we win.
And it does become a habit and it can be

(02:06:31):
a self fulfilling prophecy if you start to buy into
either one, and it's a good thing to buy into
the winning part.

Speaker 8 (02:06:36):
The bullpen is doing right now what we thought they
were going to do last year. We thought with Presley
a bray you and Hater that it was going to
be kind of like what you know, Lidge dotel On
Wagner was in the years that they were together, where
it was you get it to the seventh inning, we
feel good about how this thing' are going to finish.

Speaker 9 (02:06:54):
Same rapper, different names at time, I mean two of
the same names, but you know throughout the bullpen, different names.

Speaker 7 (02:07:01):
Better result this year.

Speaker 8 (02:07:03):
Massively better result because you're actually because you're not giving
up the lead, You're actually going out there and if
it is a tie ball game, you keep it tied,
give your guys a chance. And I mean the seventh inning.
I mean at times it's been Brian King, and I
mean we'd even seen Sean Duban work his way into
that role. And I mean sometimes Steven Okert at Bennett
SUSA has been unreal for this team this year. And

(02:07:26):
I don't even think most Astros fans really fully recognize
how good he's been for this team this year.

Speaker 9 (02:07:30):
If in Susan Andy like last night, almost set up
for that. If it was stayed zero zero, right, haters
gonna come in and keep it in.

Speaker 8 (02:07:36):
The tent, then closer in baseball told you it's no doubt.

Speaker 7 (02:07:40):
So it is.

Speaker 9 (02:07:41):
It's I for one, would rather have a team and
we say battle tested. We use it sometimes as a
throwaway line, but battle tested to me is when you
go back and the postseason starts.

Speaker 7 (02:07:50):
Team to look back and say, man, we were.

Speaker 9 (02:07:54):
Twenty seven and ten in one run games. Or you're
a team and man, we mash all the time we've
been and you know, the margin of victory has been big,
the plus category of runs compared to our opponent. That
all matters. But when it gets to the playoffs and
you're in those type of games, you better have learned
during the season or in your career, or as a
team how to win those because if you're used to

(02:08:16):
playing out in front all the time and it gets
a little uncomfortable, because sports is all about being comfortable
being uncomfortable, you gotta get comfortably and uncomfortable because it's
not comfortable. Football sucked when you're playing. I love don't missend.
I love playing it. When everybody says, oh, you having fun, No,
I'm not having fun. In the second quarter, I'm in Pittsburgh,
it's freezing, I'm getting my ass kicked. I threw a pick,

(02:08:36):
but I threw two touches with No, I'm not having fun.
I love the sport, Love the competition. But when it's
that grind, dude, I'm not running out of the field. Now,
when you're in one of those games, dude, it's the
middle of the third quarter and you are flying, you're
up forty one to nothing, and you've had one of
those gaps. Yeah, now I'm having fun. But I got
news for you. Facing Nolan Ryder, facing a guy throwing
a buck, facing from er Valdez is not fun. You

(02:09:00):
get the hit, it's fun while you're staying on second base,
but then all of a sudden you get doubled off.
That's not fun football. The greatest of the funnest part
of football. You have to throw touchdown, celebrate, you gotta
get back in the mid was when I get to
take a knee at the end of the game. Now
afterwards celebration and mulling it over, we kick their ass.
It's not fun while it's happening. It's competitive and it's
intense in your minds. So when they say many have fun,

(02:09:21):
but those ones are fun, So you better learn how
to win those uncomfortable games, which they'll be more of
those in the other way. Seventh inning and beyond, you're
probably gonna be in more two run games and you
are in seven run games either way. So yeah, it's
it's I got to said, man, you're having a blast
win in the middle of the first quarter when I'm

(02:09:41):
facing it all out blitz on a regular basis, getting
your brains being hoping you make a throw in the years, yes,
or getting ready for the game and leading up the
care Yeah, but literally in the game, dude, the focus
is so and as a player, even if you're even
if you're going good, like Suarez was last name, you
think he got comfortable and thinking, oh, I'm pitching well.
But do you think he at the point where he
was having a blast, No, because he knows that one

(02:10:04):
bad pitch and the game changes and now nobody's talking
about his excellent performance. They're talking about what a job
to get the home run? Right, So to me, it's fun.
It's we use the term loosely. It's fun when the
game's over, when you're kicking somebody's ass. But most of
the time in a game, you're not in those situations.

(02:10:24):
You're grinding it out twenty to zero when they've come
from behind.

Speaker 7 (02:10:28):
Impressive statistic for sure.

Speaker 8 (02:10:30):
And you know a couple of things that we'll get
to before we get to Dana Brown here in about
fifteen minutes. As we've mentioned something that was said about
Arch Manning. Do you want to get into that, But
also a quick note on Kevin Durant that could make
Rockets fans really excited about this season. We'll do all
that right here on this Sean Salisbury show Sports Talk

(02:10:50):
seven ninety. But you heard Sean mention the word uncomfortable.
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Speaker 11 (02:12:39):
J Take take barrels his way to the basket.

Speaker 1 (02:12:43):
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Speaker 16 (02:12:44):
Is Jay shaunte Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on
Sports Talk seven ninety flagship station of your Rockets.

Speaker 8 (02:12:56):
Quick things to throw out to number one Kevin Durant.
Think we talked about how he's going to improve this
team offensively this year. Adam Wexler sharing this stat yesterday
twenty twenty four, twenty five catch and shoot three point
field goal percentage, and this is for the entire league.
Kevin Durant was third in the entire league forty five

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point seven. The next closest to him one of the
guys you just traded away Dylan Brooks forty one, right
on the number, and then Jalen Green was at thirty fourth,
just behind him at forty point nine, and then you
get Fred van Vliet at seventy fifth, Jabari Smith Junior
at eighty first. So your point, the point is that

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this guy immediately improves your offense in the fashion that
you needed it to improve the most because this was
a woeful three point shooting team.

Speaker 9 (02:13:48):
Isn't that when you're making a decision, isn't it pretty
much anil brainer because of what he's been, that's been
his career, that's who.

Speaker 7 (02:13:55):
He is, right for the most part.

Speaker 9 (02:13:57):
Yeah, I mean I'm talking about when you said, right,
his shots, all of that, and just's he's different and
that's why he's here. Different in a lot of ways.
But his game's different. And as I've said all week long,
everybody knows his age. Now everybody knows if there's a deficiency,
whatever those deficiencies may be in your own eyes, everybody
has an opinion.

Speaker 7 (02:14:18):
The one thing that is you don't have to worry
about his confidence.

Speaker 9 (02:14:22):
I think people are going to question as the number
one at thirty seven, where he's the guy, what happens
when Steph's and I think we all know he can score,
but when those points come and how often? And in
you know, nut cutting to all those things that Kevin
Durantz built a reputation on being a dominant player and
a postseason MVP and all those things and wearing a ring,
can you bring here because now there's a level of

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this is a group of young guys. You lost a
culture guy in Dylan Brooks. You've got Van Vliet hopefully
depending on the contract, and you're coming here to make
an impact. And I don't believe that rafel Stone and
Emo Udoka brought him in here just to score.

Speaker 7 (02:15:00):
That makes sense. There's got to be there. There's got
to be another element to it.

Speaker 9 (02:15:03):
But if he is Kevin Durant, who we think he is,
You've got a guy now at the end of a
game that you know where the ball is going first,
at least you know you know where's going to and
you trust the fact that he can close it out.
It closes are so important when it comes to hoops
and that confidence that goes with expectations. We talked about baseball.
You know your expectations. You know, aren't Humble's gonna be

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the guy? Right And and I'm talking about for the
Astros that you think, oh, it's got to be al
to be It's got to be somebody as well.

Speaker 7 (02:15:33):
It's been somebody else on this.

Speaker 9 (02:15:34):
Team their starting lineups obvious and then the backups. But
bringing in a guy that is your I know, your
Hunter Brown, you know, I mean, I'm just you're yourd
Don Alvarez comparing it to baseball that you know, that's
who you want with the ball, and what he does
with it will be determined by how they play him.
This is a this is an upgrade. It's an upgrade

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now five years from I'm not worried about it now.
If it doesn't work, they don't win a chance, you can,
we can bitch and moan all we want that the
trade didn't work, regardless of what Jalen Green does wherever
he ends up, if it's in Phoenix or somewhere else,
and Dylan Brooks, but.

Speaker 7 (02:16:09):
It is an upgrade.

Speaker 9 (02:16:10):
And the upgrade is you're trying to win an NBA championship,
and they obviously didn't feel that they were going to
win one under the current setting, and Dylan Brooks had
to go with him as well as picks.

Speaker 7 (02:16:19):
But you upgraded on the immediate.

Speaker 9 (02:16:21):
When you open the season next year, you are immediately
a better team because of Kevin Durant and those numbers.

Speaker 7 (02:16:25):
You just you know, you just spit out for us.

Speaker 8 (02:16:28):
Well, it's also too playing to his strengths. I mean,
at this point of his career, he's still an elite scorer.
He's still somebody that's gonna be able to put that
up for you and get it.

Speaker 7 (02:16:36):
Can give?

Speaker 9 (02:16:36):
Can he give you MVP basketball? At this stage? Does
he still have that in him?

Speaker 8 (02:16:40):
I mean, you know that he may has expectations when
it comes to the defensive end, but it's also too
when you get a guy like Durant, it's all right, Well.

Speaker 9 (02:16:48):
The truth is, we let this guy do what he
wants to do, right, But we're also we don't vote
for the MVP based on who they defend on defense
or Harden would have never wont it right? You know
what I'm saying. The MVP is an offensive statistic. It's
the offensive player of the year in football. But we
claim at the MVP that's just the way it is.

Speaker 7 (02:17:05):
Now.

Speaker 9 (02:17:06):
You want to go be the be great All defensive team.
You got that big fella you know in Thompson doing
that as well. So the expectations are if Kevin Durant
is healthy and plays like that guy, this is not
only an upgrade. It immediately is well witnessed by what
Vegas is saying. A team that not only had to

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be a forced last year and be reckoned with, but
it just elevates the reputation and swagger as well.

Speaker 8 (02:17:30):
I'm gonna hold off on the arch Manning thing because
do you want to give you plenty enough time with
Dana Brown.

Speaker 7 (02:17:36):
So we're gonna do that.

Speaker 8 (02:17:37):
The Astros GM joining us for his weekly visit here
on the Sean Salisbury show that's coming up right here,
Sports Talk seven to ninety. The seven ninety listener line
here in the nine o'clock hour is presented by one
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Speaker 9 (02:17:50):
General manager Dana Brown joins us. Now, Dana, welcome in.
It's great to have you on for your weekly visit.
What a wins like last night? A great pitching performance
by both teams, clutch hitting at the right time for
the psyche and the confidence and swagger. What's a win
like that do when the bats weren't alive and well
but the clutch hit.

Speaker 10 (02:18:12):
Yeah, those wins are huge. You know when you get
the performance that you got from Framberg. You know Valdez,
he was outstanding for seven. You know, the bullpen came
in and shut it down. It's a big win because
it's a really good team. The Phillies are really good,
they're playing well, they're in first place. You get that
one win, you got two really good teams coming into

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the the building this week to dyk In Park, and
so you know, you get that first one against two
teams that you're playing are in first place. He's gonna
be two tough series for us. You know, it's an
exciting first win, and that's it's big for the club.
The timely hitting and just I can't say enough about
the pitching, Dana, Do.

Speaker 7 (02:18:54):
You use series like this?

Speaker 9 (02:18:55):
I mean, obviously they're all important, but when you play
a good team like the Phillies and the way they're
playing in those three guys you're facing, the starting pitchers
are all damn good and pitching well, we know the
reputation of the guy you're facing Day and Zach Wheeler.
When you see this, do you what do you get?
I mean, do you know going in that this is
a measuring stick? Do you literally measure against Philly more

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than you would against Oakland? The wins and losses all matter,
But is it easier to gauge your team in a
game like this or when you're supposed to beat a
team on a regular basis.

Speaker 10 (02:19:26):
Yeah, I mean we love to play the good ball clubs.
I mean we actually play very well. I think we're
leading in winning series against all the better teams, and
so you know, that's a nice feather in your cap.
And so, I mean, these guys really step it up.
You know, when we play these tough teams, they know
it's going to be a tough battle day. Are they
getting a few eighths in this series? And so you know,

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it does a lot for you confidence wise when you
play a good club and you could, you know, pull
out some victories, haven't. Doesn't make no mistake about it.
You know, it does lot for the club.

Speaker 11 (02:20:01):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (02:20:02):
You know, these guys are locked in right now and
they've been fun to watch.

Speaker 9 (02:20:07):
This everything you get. Let me let me go to
one of the injuries real quick, because you mentioned the bullpen.
We'll get back to last night and the team in
the season. Uh, Dubin the strain in the in the forearm, Dana,
is there any reason that we should believe that surgery
is possible or when will we know we're out of
the woods on that.

Speaker 10 (02:20:26):
Yeah, I don't think surgery is possible. Look, I think
that at the end of the day. Uh, you know,
Dubin's going to be fine. It's just going to take
some time. He's probably needs a little bit of rest.
You know, you've heard me say this often on this
program that the one sixty two you know you're going
to run into some hiccups when you play all these games.
And so I think this is, you know, one of

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those injuries where you know, he'll go through the you know,
the fifteen day I l and then we'll circle back
and see how he feels. But uh, we don't think
this is going to be that long. And you know,
he's been a really good piece for use in the
middle of our our bullpen, pitching those middle winnings, and
so we're looking forward to getting them back.

Speaker 9 (02:21:06):
Dana Brown asked Thos GM for his weekly visit here
on Wednesday on the Seawan Salisbury Show on Sports Talk
seven ninety Dana, any chance we see him in the
batter's box before the All Star break, meaning Jordan Alvarez.

Speaker 10 (02:21:19):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think there's a good chance.
He's just started his hitting on Sunday late afternoon, and so, uh,
you know, he's taking some picking some cuts. I think
we're gonna amp him up, get them amped up this uh,
you know, this week, we'll we'll allow him to uh,
you know, take some batting practice live, we'll take some
off the tee. You know, we'll get to the point

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where we'll take some off the machine. And so now
it's that time where you know, he's feeling really good,
and so we're gonna allow him to swing the bat.
You know. We started on Sunday, Sunday afternoon, and so
you know, talking to jord isand yesterday he feels really good,
and so you know, we're gonna, you know, we're going
to push through this thing with him, and I think

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he feels good this time, and so we're looking forward
to getting them back, you know, at some point here soon.
I feel confident that it should be before the All
Star break.

Speaker 1 (02:22:13):
Dana.

Speaker 9 (02:22:14):
You mentioned the word grit a lot, which is a
great word and a great kind of description of this team.
But you're sixteen and seven, and stats can be overrated
and misleading. These two aren't sixteen and seven in one
run games and twenty and oh in games where you've
come from behind. You're twenty and oh. You know, those
are fairly alarming statistics. And grit's important, as you well know,

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and mentioned in a good way regularly. There's something other
than grit. What is it with this team.

Speaker 10 (02:22:44):
Yeah, I would start with the pitching. You know, the
bullpen's been really good to hold down those leads when
we come back. You know, it really starts with the
pitching and the defense. The defense has been really good.
You know, we can catch the baseball, you know, at
some point, you know, on our nfield you'll see that
we'll have a gold glove at every position, and so,

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I mean that's very important. And then getting those timely hits,
you know, our our offense every now and then we'll
get on all cylinders. We've been on and off, but
you know we've been heat we've been heating up lately,
you know. So that's been good to see our guys
heating up. And so you know, when you put all
three of those together, that's when you can get those

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you know, those good numbers like that. You know, good pitching,
good defense, timely hitting very important to one run games.
We've been really good in one run games too as well.
So uh yeah, it's too fun to watch. The boys
are picking each other up, you know, even with these
injuries that we have, these guys consistently pick each other up,

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and we're getting pretty good performances, you know, out of
our guys, and you know, some of these young starters
have come up and given us some really good stuf
arts like Gordon, you know, Walters, you know, Gusto has
been really good and you know Alexander. These guys have
really stepped it up with these injuries we've had, you know,

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in our rotation. So you know that hat's off to them,
and you know, we hope they continue to have some
success at the major league level.

Speaker 9 (02:24:20):
Dana, We we talked so much about you know, your
upbeat about your team, and you always let us know
that you're going to go on this hitting streak and
the rest of it. So it's so much positive and
especially this year to like and it's a long season
as you mentioned, but hey, it's a grinding grit for
you too. You got to deal with it the emotion.
You don't get a bat in your hand or you
don't get to throw a baseball. So for you when
you're going through this, all the good stuff, but what

(02:24:41):
is the biggest frustration for you, Not that it can't
be fixed, but the biggest frustration for you seventy nine
games into your season.

Speaker 10 (02:24:50):
Yeah, I don't have much frustration at all. I mean,
we're forty six and thirty three. We're thirteen over, we're
in first place, four and a half up in the
in the division. We're battling through injuries, the guys are
showing grit. Yeah, there's there's nothing to be frustrated about.
We just have to continue to do what we're doing.
And you know, we're gonna we're gonna get some of

(02:25:12):
these guys back off the I L and uh, you
know it's probably gonna come at a time where we're
gonna need them. And you know, if we can continue
to play like we're playing, you know, the frustration is
there is none. I mean we I can't get frustrated
when you know the guys are playing the way they're playing,
especially when we have so many guys on the IL.
I really love the grit of this team, and you

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know the support we get at home with our fans
and even on a road. I mean, we're going through,
you know, a tough time with injuries, and these guys
are continuing to battle every single night. And so, yeah,
frustration is not my vocabulary right now.

Speaker 9 (02:25:53):
Dana Brown's a couple more minutes here on Sports Talk
seven ninety. You know, Dana, you uh and in the
way you've built this team. And uh, you mentioned no frustration,
but the way you've built this team and the way
Joe A Spot has handled this year forty six and
thirty three, and you mentioned that there's not a lot
of frustration when you're judging and everybody just all this
guy's hurting, what's going on here? And you have to

(02:26:14):
hear all that from media fans. You go through it
and the grind for you, as I mentioned, but with
you when you're evaluating yourself and I don't think we've
ever talked about this, when you're evaluating yourself on when
you see a team doing what they're doing and you're
by yourself self reflecting, how do you evaluate your performance
yourself the things are going? Is it just by the

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way a players playing everything? How do you evaluate you
through a season?

Speaker 10 (02:26:39):
Yeah? Yeah, My principle is this, judge yourself and you
won't be judged. That's that's the principle that I go by.
And I'm I'm tough on myself, constantly evaluating what I'm doing.
And look, I got to hand it to Joe and
the coaching staff. These guys are really getting these guys

(02:27:01):
to turn the corner. Uh, you know, I'm hard on myself.
I judge myself. I got a good staff around me,
my assistant GM and my directors, and so look, we're
in the grid every single day and then we're trying
to work this thing out and we're trying to get better,
and we we take what we got and we make
the best of it. We prepare for every single game.

(02:27:24):
You know, as I mentioned, we got a good coaching
staff down there, you know, and led by Joe as
the head as the head guy. Look, the manager, he's
really doing a great job with these players. We have
good relationship with these players, and so I think it's
a well loyal machine. And uh, you know, guys are
getting after it and we're we're we're battling the bumps

(02:27:45):
in the road and we're continuing to keep our eyes
on the prize and the eyes on the prize. Just
went into the division, getting back deep into the postseason
to try to get another World championship here and.

Speaker 9 (02:27:55):
He's Dana, is Joe a spot of the Manager of
the Year with all the circumstance. I know you're not
voting for it, but just looking what he's done, it's
pretty spectacular.

Speaker 7 (02:28:03):
With with with with.

Speaker 9 (02:28:04):
All these injuries and people leaving in the off season,
it's been pretty impressive. I would imagine that you're you
hold the same feelings about him.

Speaker 10 (02:28:13):
Absolutely very impressive. Joe is a steady hand, He really
manages well. He has, uh, you know, that right temperament.
You know sometimes you know, I get a little high strung,
and uh, you know, Joe is like level head, you know,
keep it calm, you know, keep your hands on the

(02:28:33):
steering wheel, eyes on the road. And he's done a
really good job with these guys, and you know, hats
off to him, you know, for what he's done, you know,
to to keep the shift in the right direction with
all the injuries and you know, staying positive. I mean
we talked every single day, twice a day down in
his office, and uh, you know, he's been doing an

(02:28:54):
outstanding job. And I think you know, his style of
leadership with his relationship with the players, you know, that's
big in today's game.

Speaker 9 (02:29:03):
Dana, you mentioned, I know you talk to the players
often too about getting over stuff and moving forward and
staying the course and grinding with that grit. Do you
get over to frustrate you talking about high struck do
you get over him as quickly as you expect the
players to do you get over the tough times.

Speaker 10 (02:29:20):
Yeah, Look, I get a little high strung because you know,
I sometimes demand profession, right, you know, And I know
in this sport you can't be perfect. And you know,
I don't win one hundred and sixty two games and
lose zero, that's them possible. But that's my goal is
to like win every ball game. And so we know
that some games we're not going to win, but I

(02:29:41):
expect to win every time we hit the field, and
you know, sometimes you're gonna come up on the losing side,
which is part of this part of what we do
in baseball. But you know, I really hold myself to
a high standard, you know, And you know that's just
the way it is. And I think you have to
be that way when you play one hundred and sixty

(02:30:02):
two games, because you never want to get to the
end of the season and come up one game short.
I don't think there's anything more frustrated. And so you
hold high standards for every single game and you hope
to push out on the top, you know, with a
nice lead.

Speaker 7 (02:30:15):
At the end.

Speaker 9 (02:30:16):
All right, as we let you go we all when
we're talking injuries, and we have today about oh, it's
a bumber, this guy may not be back. This guy's
coming back at the All Star Breaker at the end
of the All Star break. Obviously the good news on
yourd on Is there any good surprising news that you're
going to say this guy could come back sooner and
help us when we didn't expect it. Are we going
to see any of that coming down the pike soon?

(02:30:37):
Good news on the injury.

Speaker 10 (02:30:38):
Side, Yeah, I'm hoping. We have two of those in
the Javier and Araghetty. As I mentioned before, Araghetty's biting
at the bit, you know, he's ready to accelerate it,
but we have to actually slow him down. Javier is
down in camp right now in West Palm, touching ninety five,
so he looks like the Hobvier hold. And so those

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two guys, we can get those guys back, you know,
let them continue to progress. We don't want to rush them.
But they're both looking really good. And so those are
two guys that I really have my eyes on to
be nice pieces to put back into the rotation. And
so yeah, we're looking for a shot in the arm

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with those guys.

Speaker 7 (02:31:23):
Yeah, wouldn't that be a blessing.

Speaker 9 (02:31:25):
Congratulations on everything that's happened these first seventy nine, A
lot to go and good luck on the rest of
this Homestand that's five pretty impressive games we're gonna have
to play in against two good teams, and it sure
is fun. I just say, we like I'm going to
do anything meeting the Astros. You guys, keep it up
and we'll look forward to next week's conversation.

Speaker 10 (02:31:44):
Absolutely, let's go Astro fans, keep the energy high. We're
ready to go.

Speaker 7 (02:31:49):
There you go, Davis, is a weekend coming up.

Speaker 9 (02:31:51):
We appreciate you, brother, thank you, and we'll talk to
you next week. That's the Astros GM Dana Brown. I
would imagine even this while they expect to win them
all day and as we go to break, I don't think,
considering all the circumstances, that he would have thought forty
what are we at forty forty forty six six or
thirty three? Thirteen games over five and that we would
have thought that this would be the case first place, maybe,

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but not like this, not the way it's impressive.

Speaker 7 (02:32:16):
It's impressive. Absolutely, it's the best record in baseball.

Speaker 3 (02:32:21):
I live out there for the Shawn Salisbury Show. Continued,
that is nice to hear. That's great news.

Speaker 7 (02:32:29):
I would have never.

Speaker 8 (02:32:29):
Thought it, especially too with what people were saying at
the beginning of spring training, thinking that maybe that was
not going to be a possibility.

Speaker 7 (02:32:37):
More than likely it was not going to be.

Speaker 8 (02:32:39):
But I mean, throwing ninety five, I mean, you get
him coming back and he's able to possibly be a
long relief maybe even you know, if you need to
go pseudo bullpen game in the playoffs, that's a hell
of an option.

Speaker 7 (02:32:52):
That's great, great news. Great here he was.

Speaker 9 (02:32:54):
You could tell he's when you're going this good with
all these injuries, and you said when I asked him
about from strations and he doesn't have many, if any,
pretty impressive. I know he'd love more power and hitting
two seventy as a team or whatever is that'd be great.
But the way they're winning, he'll take sixteen and seven
and one run games in twenty and zero on comeback

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twenty you know, twenty and nothing.

Speaker 8 (02:33:18):
It's pretty impressive. Man tied for the fourth best record
in baseball. Team you're gonna see over the weekend in the
Chicago Cubs, seven starting pitchers five position players, one reliever
on the il.

Speaker 7 (02:33:29):
Right now, things are good, Astros fans, Yeah, Kent sway.

Speaker 9 (02:33:33):
The frustration probably is the stuff out of his control,
like injuries. But there's a lot to like. Even when
you're not playing your best offensively regularly, you're coming up
with wins at times well from the front.

Speaker 7 (02:33:44):
Well, as you saw last night, there you go.

Speaker 8 (02:33:46):
Well said is Shawn Salisbury, Triple Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews,
The Matt Thomas Show with Ross coming up next.

Speaker 7 (02:33:52):
We will talk to you in twenty hours.