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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 3 (00:14):
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Speaker 4 (00:23):
Well one two to Dubon and that's smacked the other
way past the dive of Talasen in the right field.
Around third, buyers, he will score. Smith goes to third.
Mauricio Dubon checks in with an RBI single to make
it three to two. Astros first pitch and Paenia rockets
this one out to left center, racing back of ros Arena,
and that's over his head. What hops off the fence
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in front of the visitor's bullpen. Smith scores Dupon around third.
He's coming home.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
He scores.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
It's a two run triple for Jeremy Payana and the
Astros lead is five to two three two Al two
ve ammers this one tta left center field and you
can kiss that one good bye through the archery and
the Astros lead is six to two OL two a
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s fifth of the year and his first since April
twenty eighth first pitch and al two A trills at
DTA lot kiss it got by a two homer game
for jose L two Vey Let's run a two run
shot and the Astros lead eight to two. Al Twove
has driven in four tonight or it delivers and that's
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hitting the right center. Smith on his horse racing back
drugs it down. Excellent catch by Smith and a good
way to finish off this ballgame. The Houston Astros scoring
four consecutive innings and beat the Seattle Mariners nine to
two to take the first game of this four game series.
The Astros are now two and a half back in
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the AL West.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Oh much better, much better.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
I mean that was fun to watch as the Astros
able to win last night. You just heard Robert Ford
filly in on the arrest of the details, Jose Altuve,
a couple of homers, get to that in just a
second renew Blanco on the il elbow inflammation, gonna seek
a second opinion, and the thunder taking a two oh
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lead on the Timberwolves in the NBA's Western Conference Finals.
And with all that we say away we go in
good morning here on the Sean Salisbury Show. Cole Thompson
in on this freaky Friday for Sean. You are back.
Here you go, Katie Bill. Everybody's excited for that I'm
for sure TRIPLEE Emmanuel Elmore in there, and a couple
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of the highlights you heard in there, Jose Altuve leaving
the yard not once but twice.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
It was glorious. We love to see it. In this case,
we'd love to hear it. It would have been a
great for a third one.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Oh, Dan Matthews, what a good way to start a
Hawaiian Friday. What away You mentioned that we got to
see enough of vintage Lance mccullor's junior kind of peak
its way through last night too. That was another big
time thing that I think a lot of people are
kind of taking a big exhale after the news of
Rono Blanco earlier in the afternoon.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
And that's exactly it.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
I mean, you know, you get the news of Blanco,
You're already without Hayden was Nesky, You're gonna be without
Spencer Arraghetti. I mean, me and Gordy were talking about
it yesterday. I guess he finally got the cast off,
so he'll probably sometime this weekend start tossing. But then,
I mean, we had Dana Brown on yesterday and he
said it's gonna be a spring training build up all
over again. Throwing program everything before. Maybe you get an
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inning in and then you get a couple in and
then you're, you know, just trying to build up from there.
So that to me is not showing me he's back
until the All Star breaks. So last night, to your point,
you need Lance mccullors Junior to do what he did.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
And honestly, I'll take four to third if I'm getting
eight strikeouts, if I'm working out of jams, if i
give up a two run first, because remember back when
we had a healthy Lance mccullors on the things that
everyone would talk about was his rocky start where he'd give.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Up two runs in the first two innings.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
Calm down, he'd give you six strong, he wouldn't let
anybody else on base, he'd strikeout six, he'd only walk one.
He'd work counts in his favor, and then you just
trust your bullpen. Well, he got eight strikeouts last night,
you got four and a third.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
You only gave up the.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
First two runs and then it was smooth sailing the
rest of the way through, as long as the way
the bullpen is playing. Where eether it's be Brian King
or the Steven Oaker performance last night with three strikeouts
or Caleb worret. He didn't have to turn to Josh Hater,
wasn't a safe situation, didn't have to turn to Brian
and Bray you.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
But we know what both of them can do.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
You're in a really good spot, and this is one
of those times where is it gonna be a full
pitching performance whenever Lance McCully takes them mount Probably, But
are you willing to take that if you're able to
get eight strikeouts, if you're willing to only give up
two runs, and this is the way that your offense
mechanically works. And again I'm not saying that you have
to have josel two of a breaking eighteen game hitting
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st eighteen game RB streak, which nobody is asking for.
Nobody is wanting to see this version every eighteen days.
They'd rather see it every seven days if need be sure.
But if you're getting that, and you're getting the offensive
East SoC predes still, if you're getting the version of
a Jeremy Pan hitting multiple extra base hits, if getting
better play at the bottom of your order, Jake Myers
still being Jake Myers, You'll take a full performance as
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long as this is the version of Lance mccallors.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
That's giving you four strongs and.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
If nothing else last night, I mean you finally saw that, Okay,
like I can see it now, like, oh yeah, it's
right there. I don't have to have somebody telling me
I can see the future that. I mean, you're able
to not have shades of what you had against the Reds.
I mean when he walks the leadoff had the leadoff
hitter Crawford. Yeah, and then yeah, he walks a couple
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on that inning, and then he gives up the RBI
single to Roddy Tilez. You're just kind of like, dude,
don't have us out of this already. I mean, even
though it was his first star of the year, it's
still George Kirby, and early on it looked like he
was still going to be George Kirby.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
There was a part of me last night when watching
the first two innings just like come on, really, like
this is gonna be the new norm for Spencer Arragheddy,
Like that's where Astros fans brains are gonna go, oh,
you missed two months of work. Well, George Kirby just
came out here in mode past the Astros lineup Rageeddy,
that's the new standard when you come back like that's
how it felt.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
Well and then you know tripley. I still got to
highlight number twelve up there. But I mean, in terms
of just the overall phant excitement in the building last night,
I think it kind of ratchets up a little bit
more for certain players. And this is jose Al two
Bay's second home run. Listen to the pop after he
hits the ball.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
First pitch and Al two trills it taste.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
It gout by.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
A two homer game.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
For hose L Twove.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
This run a two ruck shot and the Astros lead
eight to two.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Al Twove has driven it four tonight.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Yes, second, older people who thinks that he's aging with time,
uh huh, we saw vintitch Josel two ball.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I mean, and that's exactly it is.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
I mean, I think that you know, obviously Astros fans,
you're huge fans of all of the guys that are
on this team, but there's certain guys that like have
like an extra level of being made, you know, in
terms of like you want to look like a mafia comparison.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Here is that. I mean, he's one of those guys.
And Lance is one of those guys.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Jordan still one of those guys, because I mean, as
this thing has changed ever, you know, it's not even slightly,
It's completely changed.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I mean from everything in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
The only guy that's still hear position player wise is
Jose Al tub The only guy that's still hear picture
wise is Lance mcculler's junior.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
So I mean it's completely different.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
It's a completely different version of the Astros than what
we've seen. But like for Altuve last night, like when
I heard that highlight this morning, I was like, those
are like fans like being like, please God, we want
to see this out of you again. And I mean
I understand what you said about you know, people questioning
his age, thirty five years old, all of that, but like.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I that cheer right there.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Cole told me that, like people are legit concerned about Okay.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
The thing is when it comes to al Tuovan, I
think it's more so him. It's you're allowing two players
that are younger, that are as influential and probably have
the same value and could have that same homegrown field
by the end of the day, walking for the free
agency to trade him because of Alex Bregman is now
playing in Boston and he's three five years younger, and
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he's crushing it. In femway, you're looking at the MVP
season that Kyle Tucker's putting on at Wiggley Field right now. Now,
Tucker's a completely different situation. You're not paying four hundred
million dollars in Houston. We all knew that, so you
might as well recoup as much benefits as possible and.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Call it a day.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
But the Bregman deal, when you sign out two by
to a new five year contract, knowing that he's thirty
five years old, he's going to finish his career as
an astro and he's going to get the three thousand heads.
He's gonna go down as the greatest player to ever
wear the uniform.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
It's like it means something.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
But also you don't want that window to automatically be closed.
You don't want to say we bet on our best
player and our most valuable player in terms of the
franchise ambiance because of we want him to end his
career as an astro And in the process we watched
that window close since they move him to the three hole.
And again, this is a big time deal, because if
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we've talked about this multiple times, he was hitting one
ninety one in the two hole. In the three hole,
he's beat in two to eighty seven. He has a
nine to eighty one. Ops.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
It might be enough.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
Like honestly, the fact that we saw a change the plate,
we saw a change his as his delivery. Uh, he's
not swinging as much as at first pitches, he's at
least leaving the ball in play and he's watching the
counts Bodewild's favor. I think it's something that you have
to take into consideration moving forward as this is where
Josel Tube has to play because with all of that
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money that you have allocated towards his contract, you gotta live.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Up to it.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
Whether or not he's thirty five, whether or not he's
turned on the back mind, whether or not he's getting older.
It's the fact that you invested in Hoseel Tuob it
is still be a cornerstone piece for this organization. So
where is he best going to be propri vide that value?
Is it in the three hole, is it in the
sixth hole, is it in the seventh hole, whatever it is,
just to make sure that he lives up to the
contract stats.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
She got to see it last night. We saw it
in the three hole.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
And how funny is it too? I mean you mentioned
est soak Paratis. Every single Astro starter not named escoc
Paratis got a hit last night.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Yeah, and I'll take that.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
I will take that. I think everybody in Houston will
take that. You give me two hit performance from Christian
Walker and a one hit performance every other day from
estoch Predes for a week and you end up going
six out of seven.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Nobody is complaining about that.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
Esoch Parides did his job when everyone else was struggling,
So let him have a moment to kind of catch
his breath and everyone catch him speak.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Yeah, he also has run batted in there where it
looked like it was going to be yet another double
play where I mean his first step out of the
game grounds in on a double play. And I made
the joke that I said, you know, if we were
starting to play a drinking game with Astro double plays,
we would not draw a sober breath from month.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Really you think so?
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Yes, we we would be would choices the big question.
We would be pretty much anything. I mean, it's you know,
in what what it made me think of as a
buddy of mine, Mac that I used to work with,
and it was the one of the major like power
balls or mega millions like jackpots that were out there,
and it's the old you know, oh man, you know
you hit the six numbers? What are you gonna do?
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And I just remembered his line, he goes, he goes,
we'd be in Jamaica. We would not draw a sober
breath for weeks.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
All I think of right now is my buddy Chris,
who's having rumblement shots on Whover, Alabama. Oh, come on, okay,
rumblem It's fine, It's it's the fireball.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
I can't do it anymore. I can.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
I can handle fireballs. See I can't. I'm thirty thirty one.
I don't do I don't do fireballs.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
There's just like an extra zing to it. And I'm
just like, oh god, is it the after burn that
tastes like that?
Speaker 8 (11:49):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Yeah, yeah, rumplement. For me, it's the cinnamon Like I
don't know why. It's like doing the cinnamon Challenge, like
back in circa twenty thirteen. I got ruined off of
that because if I choked.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
So that's why.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Kids, It's like Christmas almost like where like you eat
like a peppermint, you know, bite or something like that.
That's what I feel like. Basically, I'm drinking as as
a shot right there. And it's it's not.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
As solokalo in there. You call it peppermintmocha. It's just
a it's just not a virgin one. There we got
problem solving.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
All right, there you go, Well, you know where you
could be like Robert Goulay or his his brother in
the Red Ships of Spain on Saturday Night Live. You know,
drinking straight Khalua in the theater bathroom.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
You're a drunk. That was Will Ferrell, right.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
It was Will Ferrell, but it was I forget who
Robert Goulay's brother was that played.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
That was played by Alec Baldwin. Oh, you're actually talking
about who is his brother?
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Well, I just I can't remember what his brother's name was.
But anyway, that is yeah, but that's that's what he
threw out him. He said, you know, you're drinking straight
Kalou in the theater bathroom.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
And then he stops for a second. He goes, you're
a drunk. You're a loser.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
I always hate Okay, that was the one character by
Will Ferrell that I never got in to the Robert Goodlight.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I loved it. I never did. I don't know why. Well,
I mean, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
I'm just trying to think. Is it because I'm too
young to understand? And Robert probably yeah, I'd probably say
that's it. But I mean, you know, you know who
Neil Diamond is.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Yeah, And I love the Inside the Artist Studio or
whatever they did with John Goodman, Tim Meadows and I
forget who the other guy was that was part of it.
But like he's telling like inappropriate stories and like getting
very racial and like other other ways that you know,
obviously you would not do Saturday Night Live now, but.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Why not be fun. Let's just see what happens. Like
you know, I always love where he's He's like, you needs.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
To retire anyway, So lord, do this do the ones?
Get you out at the top, Eddie over here and
John Goodman he goes. We've talked for hours about this.
Leave me out this one, Neil, No, I would leave
you in again. Just Lauren, go back to old nineties version.
I promise you that's the way to go ahead and go.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
They're kind of doing I mean they're pushing the envelope
a little bit more now, Like that is one thing
I will say about SNL. I mean, I've seen it
a couple of times. Like you know, I'm a big
Shane Gellows guys, So you know.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Watched the episode. See, I like, so I watched that.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Yeah, that was. That was a good one. The Mother's
Day brunch skit, that was. That was a good one.
But Mark, Yeah, yeah, he does, he does. He does
lean into the southernness a little bit, does Walton Goggins.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
But sorry, he is one of the most underappreciated actors
currently in the game, and I hope that he's finally
he's got the respect he deserves.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Well, I mean he he got respect from me when
he was Downtown Billy Anderson and major League back to
the minors.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Okay, see, I didn't realize he was in that movie.
Yeah he was, Yeah he was.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
He was the hot shot prospect that Scott Baculo was
trying to rein in I tell you lay one down,
you lay one down.
Speaker 9 (14:41):
See.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
The only thing that I remember him from first was Justified,
And then I got fully invested when him and told
Timofield a fan on a really.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Great show.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
He doesn't, And that was like one of those f
X shows that like right before the Baron all the
other things kind of came out. That was like the
staple of television for those that didn't want watch like
the network shows on NBC.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Following for sure.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
And that's the thing like I think, like if you
had that show now, obviously with how you know much
Goggins has grown over the years with Jim Stones and
most recently with The White Lotus, I mean, I think
that probably if he had this a little bit later
on in his career, because Timothy Oliphant, I mean basically
he plays the same guy in everything that he's Yeah,
he just plays.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
An he just plays an a hole. Yeah, he plays
Josh Jumel.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
No, Josh Dumel plays like the much nicer, like endearing
version of right.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
That's why they're twins, That's why they're doppelgangers. Ones getting
ones yet? Okay, all right, have.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
You ever heard that story, by the way of Timmy,
I mean of Timothy Olifant taking a photo with Josh
Dumel's family and them setting it out as a Christmas
card and the mom not realizing it until two years later.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Interesting? Yeah, No, I never heard that. That's that is interesting.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
That's how you know for a fact that you are
actually doppelgangers. Is that when your own mother can't tell
that that's you for two years and then you take
another Christmas card? How did you get work done on
your face? No, it's a completely different actor. I'm so
glad that you notice over time.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Yeah, buddy of mine's in the industry. Dumel is one
of his guys. And I'm like, that is he really
like you know, and he's buddies. So I try to
take it with a grain of salt, and I'm like,
is he really as cool as like he comes across?
He goes, Oh, even cooler he goes, He goes It's
not like, yes, his profession is to act, but he
goes like he really is like a dude's dude, massive
sports fan, like big, he's a big sports dude. Yeah,
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he's big, big Minnesota everything, Vikings, Twins, all of that.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
That's where you know he's from. But just everything.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
I mean, like he he's like, he's like if we're
not on set, like we're not doing anything like that,
it's it's beer, it's wings, it's it's us watching you know,
the NBA Finals or whatever it might be. Like, He's like, no,
he's he's definitely one of the guys. But anyway, we'll
get back into the Astros conversation. Bill a c right there.
You want to join him Sebone three two one two
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five seven ninety against seven one three two one two
five seven ninety much better.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Lance.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
We'll talk about that here as we're just getting started
here on the Sean Salisbury Show Sportstock seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Is that when he was with the Astros.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
I'll have to go back and look of when it
was one of the many I remember too when Kratzy
as they call him on the show when he retired,
a bunch of his buddies showed up wearing the different
jerseys from all of his stops during his major league career.
So he had the Phillies and as he I think
he played for like nine teams. I mean, he just
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he was one of those journeyman catchers that you know,
he calls good game, handles, the pitching staff, all of that.
A little bit of a light hitter, but still it
was he was a valuable guy that you could get
every single year for the other things that I just mentioned,
and so he was able to keep a job in
Major League Baseball for many years because of it's so good.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Kind teams, including a one year stop or a half
year stop at the Houston Astros in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
There you go, all right, So I thought it was
twenty sixteen. But anyway, Kratz A, you gonna join us then,
and we'll get into a little bit of Astro and
everything else with him coming up here in about a
couple and a half hours. Someone three seven ninety again
is the number. Just told you a little bit about
Lance mccaller's stat line. We could talk about that, but
Billy gonna get us started here this morning.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Good morning, Billy, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (18:17):
They're gonna hit. I said it yesterday. They're gonna hit.
Speaker 9 (18:20):
Now.
Speaker 11 (18:21):
Can they do it consistently?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (18:23):
I was actually scared last night that they might get
to ten runs. Uh, they don't do well the next
game after scoring ten runs. I wish I could explain that,
but I got a little nervous about that. But they
they did. Uh, they did what I expect him to do.
They just moved the line. Yeah, A couple of home runs,
but uh, they I just need to see that consistently
now and I'm hoping they can find that. Lance looked better,
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like you said, but still control. But if he gets it,
how long does it take in spring training for a
pitcher to find his control? Six eight appearances something like that,
And we're not there yet for him. Technically, this is
spring training for him. So that's a positive. If you
want to get under Seattle Mariner's skin, I found it
to be very easy. If you think that Astro's twitter
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is whiny, go look at Seattle Mariner's X. When Brian
Wu got hurt, some guy described it as a very
hard hit foul ball got him in the lower leg,
and my response to that was I thought it was
being polite. I said, I hope the ball's okay. I
don't know I have a problem with that. I don't
know why they have such a problem with it, but
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they apparently did. But I'm looking for the Astros to
some consistency, get on a roll. They're at home for
a little while. This is where they play better, and
let's pick up some games, get a little separation between
them and the Rangers. I really not worried about Seattle
because they're going to find their way to not hit
this year as they always do, and we're going to
be there at the end.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
As I said.
Speaker 11 (19:51):
Yesterday, great show as always, guys, thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
They appreciate Billy now. I mean, we'll start first with
what he ended with that call. I think I'm more
concerned about the Rangers than I am about the Mariners.
I mean, I just I feel like the Mariners. Yeah,
I think that they're starting pitching is probably on par
with the Mariners, and they've been without Corey Seeger. They'll
they'll hit like that. That team will finally put it together.
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Simeon's been down, Garcia's been down, although I don't know
if Garcia is ever gonna be like what he was.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
What was it twenty three that one season where is
Garcia is not gonna come back?
Speaker 6 (20:27):
I know, crazy, there's some thoughts of that, but I
mean they still have a good enough team to be
able to challenge you down the stretch. And I mean,
I just I think Seattle, like seeing the way that
they were hitting early on in the season, I was like,
is that sustainable for them? Because it's basically the same
lineup that they had. I mean, it's how much can
you necessarily improve in one season?
Speaker 7 (20:45):
But well, damn, what do they do the most in baseball?
The one thing that's constant besides they're pitching.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
They hit home runs and they strikeout. They strike out.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
They still lead the majors in strikeouts. What happened last night?
Fifteen up, fifteen down with the k like that. That's
who they are as a team. But here's the thing
that always bothers me with people. And we were talking
about this on the A team yesterday. Just because of
you have a trade deadline doesn't mean you can't be
making phone.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Calls in the middle of May.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
You could easily be picking up some picking up the
phone and going, hey, Pittsburgh, you're you're selling, You're fire sailing.
Besides everyone's besides Paul Skeens, what do you want for
Spencer Horties, What do you want for O'Neal Cruz?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Cincinnati?
Speaker 7 (21:30):
You have like nine different outfielders, What can we get
for Will Benson? And then you throw them in the
outfielding and throw them in the heart of your lineup
and then you start hitting. And that could be what
Seattle decides to do if they want to because if
they know that they're pitching is still gonna be one
of the best in baseball. They have some pieces there,
Like Big Dumper took a big dump last night in Houston.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
He was terrible.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
He had three strikeouts, and nobody's complaining about that here, but.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Like that's all you got.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
If you have to get another bat in there, and
you have a two and a half lead in the
division and you want to continue to have that lead,
you could make a phone call. The problem is Seattle
just doesn't care enough of the deadline. Houston at least tries.
We've seen Texas at least try. Seattle's like, hey, we're
that cool city that made Starbucks. We're right up top
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where everything's nice and easy. We're a homegrown feel Now
you're not. That's why you haven't been to the playoffs
more than once in the last twenty years.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Well, it's just I mean, I understand trusting your own guys.
Excuse me, I understand trusting your own guys, but I
mean it's also where you get to a point of
can we take that next step? And that's where you
know the Astros seemingly, I mean Carlos Gomez trade notwithstanding
have been able to pretty much hit on making those trades.
(22:43):
I mean, you make the Verlander trade. You don't win
in twenty seventeen without making that Verlander trade. And remember too,
that was an after the trade deadline deal. That was
when we still had the waiver trade deadline. So I
remember the deadline came and went, and you had Dallas
Kaiko in the clubhouse after it was passed saying, well,
I thought we're going.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
For this thing, Like what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (23:02):
Like, you know, we feel like this team has what
it takes to be able to win it all, And
I mean, we're not going forward here. And I mean
you even have kind of heard the same things in Seattle.
I mean, a guy's not even there anymore. Justin Turner
did a whole interview during spring training of saying like,
look like you've got the pitching, and you just make
no moves to be able to help out this offense. Like, hey,
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you know, Jerry Depoto, that's why we were not in
the playoffs last year is because we didn't hits.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
Well, that's why I get so frustrated with the Texans
right now when they don't go all in on investment.
I agree, he's blind because if you have a quarterback
on such a team friendly contract, you have all these
pitchers that are homegrown that you have built. I mean,
Brian Wood could be in the bullpen for all we know,
but he's done such a good job. He's your number
five starter most teams. He's a two if nine to
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one for really underwhelming performing pitching staffs. And that's your
five guy. And you're saying, oh, well, you know what
is that of trading away one of these guys. We're
just gonna go put them out there, six innings, nine strikeouts.
They're gonna have a whip combined of like one point
two to three. They're going to end up leading the
majors and starting er and we're gonna go eighty two
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and eighty like that. Like that's the tradition in Seattle.
Great pitching, underwhelming offense, the same results, doesn't matter who
is the manager.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Yeah, it seems like it's rents to repeat. There's no
doubt about it. And I guess that's good for the
Astros because you're able to continue to stay competitive here
and hopefully be able to outlast them when it's all
said and done. But we will continue the conversation. One
thing that Billy did bring up though, was about the
lineup last night. I do want to get into that
on the other side, So we'll do that as we're
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a lot of people already you know, singing the praises
(26:21):
of him in Thompson, huge fans, I mean players and
the league alike, starting to realize how good this guy
can be.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
He improves on the offensive end, I e. From the outside,
I mean You're talking about a complete player that would
be an absolute find that the Rockets are able to
grab in that draft.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
So I don't agree with Ac on everything, but I
will agree he is the most untouchable player right now.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
I don't I do agree you know where I mean,
we talked about it when me and Ross were on
with Randy McAvoy on Sports Sunday on Channel two, and
I said that pretty much everybody else I'm willing to
listen on. But the funny thing is a close second
that I guarantee you in that building. It's the case
is Jalen Green.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Did you see the trade package that came out from
Bill Simmons a couple of days ago.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Yeah, for Jalen Brown.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Do you hate it?
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Because I personally am not the biggest fan of it,
mainly because of the Tara.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Easton package that comes with that.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
I just don't know how much you necessarily improve offensively.
I mean, he's a thirty two three point shooter, so
I mean that's pretty much right in line with what
you've been getting from the rest of this team. So
I just I don't think that it is like where
you know, the the Yiannis trade. If if you're able
to pull that off, then I'm like, Okay, I'm listening.
You're getting one of the best players in the league,
(27:36):
obviously one of the finalists for the MVP. But that's
one that I'm willing to really say, yeah, go hard
after that one.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
The reason I am at least tempted to listen to
it is because of Ema knows how to get the
best version out Jalen Brown.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Sure, and so I'm not afraid of that.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
That's yeah, that's not your top score that you pay
with the men, and that takes a lot of pressure
off of.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
A men Thompson.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
The other thing is, while you are losing Targe Easton's defense,
and while you are losing his role, Drew Holliday is
one of the better defensive players in the NBA, and
that keeps your window open, and it kind of advances
your window to where you have that veteran feel, you
have that leadership, You know that you have that intimidation
factor that is going to allow you to be able
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to go up against whether it be Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Whether it be against this this.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Oklahoma City team that right now feels unstoppable after the
way they played the last two games against Minnesota, whether
it be against Los Angeles, whether it be against whatever
happened to Golden State, who, for my money, just go
ahead and say, cyanar to all of those wonder years.
You're entering an area of where you're a playoff team,
nothing more, nothing less, going into the twilight of Seth
Curry's career, whatever happens with San Antonio. But at the
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same time, are you willing to give up that window
because the other thing is that you are benefiting and
you are helping out Boston a little bit because Boston
is gonna take a step back next year because they
lost their best player. Jason tan is probably not playing,
but they're gonna be fine when he comes back in
twenty twenty seven. Like when he's back, And then you
throw in Jabari Smith, and you throw in Tari Easton,
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and there was one of the person forgot that was
in that trade package for Jalen I think.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Fred, Yeah Van Vliet was there.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
When you throw that in, then you're saying, Okay, Boston's
still going to be competitive. Houston's going to be competitive.
So it does feel like a win win scenario. But
this is also a person that says Jalen Brown and
Tyrese Haliburton are not overrated players and so far was
right last year with him one of the MVP in
the finals and what we're seeing from a guy in
Tyrese Haliburton. So maybe that's just my fandom of what
I've liked seeing Jalen Brown be as a complimentary number two.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Let him be that number one. Finally.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Yeah, I mean, it's gonna be an interesting offseason, no
doubt about it with the Rockets, and you know, just
to see if they are willing to be aggressive. I mean,
I know that Rafelstone did say that he would bet
on continuity with this team, but you know, doesn't mean
that you have to keep everyone.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
So we'll see what they decided to do there.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
The problem is is that when you say you're gonna
keep everyone, asking do you want the same results? Because
when you keep everyone, unless everyone is getting that much
more improved, this is what you are as a team
where you may be able to beat up on an
order veteran roster like Los Angeless or Golden State, but
you lose in the next round to a Minnesota Order
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in Oklahoma City, your window is now attack for it.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
Well, I mean and you know that's the thing too
that could be a lesson learned in the NBA. I mean,
we've seen teams that it felt like they were employees
to be able to take that next step, and they
didn't really necessarily make the moves needed in order to
be able to ensure that could happen. And that's what
I want to guard against. I mean, I'm with you
on you know, just thinking that, oh, we can run
this thing back and it's gonna be much improved based
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off what I mean, these guys are going to take
just a marked improvement and a much improved step in
terms of the outside shot and being able to that's
being able to actually knock down threes with some regularity,
because that was a problem that you saw with this
team this year. The offensive les that this team would
go through or eventually what did them in the misfree
(31:02):
throws that's baked into it too, So like there were
a lot of offensive deficiencies that again kept you from
being able to move on and still play in the
NBA playoffs, and we saw that play out.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
They're a team that I still feel like has yet
to reach its potential. But I also feel like with
the current status of where the roster is. You're only
going to get to a certain level of that potential,
Like you're at about seventy five percent, and you need
to get to that one hundred. That one hundred says
second round of the playoffs. You need that enforcer. And
again I understand, I'm I'm pro, let's not give up
(31:36):
on Jalen Green for Giannis and watch and go to
Milwaukee and then average a triple double when he's in
the Eastern Conference when other opponents are going to be
going after Giannis. And maybe Giannis doesn't even want that deal,
but I do feel like there is something that needs
to be add to your roster.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
You need an efficient scorer.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
You need somebody on the back end that is going
to take pressure off of a mend when it comes
to shooting, that will add value in the three point range,
that will get we give you a number two at
least complimentary piece.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I don't know who that is, but I.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
Like what I'm hearing more when it comes to these
deals that are built around at Jalen Brown and Drew
Holliday more so than the Kevin Durant. Like I'm fully
out on the Kevin durant conversation. Anybody that wants to
bring it up with me, you automatically are done.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Yeah, And like I said, I mean, it's going to
be an offense to pay close attention to what the
Rockets decide to do in terms of bringing a lot
of these guys back, making a deal here or there,
maybe a free agent signing. But that's the fun of
the NBA offseason. We look forward to it. All right,
Let's get back into the Astros here as the offense
last night. Things that we absolutely love to see, things
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that we were asking for, pining for yesterday when Gordy
was in for you as so we will discuss that
here as we close out the d six o'clock hour
on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
We'll be talking all things and Major League Baseball with
him at here in a couple of hours. But one
thing that you know, I did tease and did want
to talk about is the Astros at the plate last
night and mentioned that every single Astro got a hit
except for eastcoc Pretis. So you put up thirteen of
them last night and a day removed from six strikeouts
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looking at twelve overall against the Rays. You cut that
number in half last night. And that was a massive
difference in this game because you get the bases loaded
there in the third inning and you got East soock
pretis and it looks like, oh, you know there's a
double play. Well, at least we'll get something out of this.
And luckily you got a little bit of a bobble
over there at third base. You get the out at
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second when close play there, he beats it out at first,
so it's able to continue the inning. You only have
one out at that point. But this is when I
feel like kind of the game flipped. Is the al
two at bat, runners on the corners with one out
and he hits the two strike opposite field sacrifice fly
that As soon as I saw him hit that, I
was like, Okay, that looks like a swing of a
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guy that's kind of starting to come out of this.
Because when you hit a ball like that the opposite way,
you're seeing it, well, you're connecting with well, you're doing
all those things. And I mean soon enough, a couple
more at bats, he's able to put a couple of
base balls over the wall. So It was nice to
see that from the perspective of not trying to do
too much and then also just simply put the ball
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in play. You put it in play, you give yourself
a chance. You don't put it in play, you don't
have a chance. And that was something that was a
little bit different nice to see last night out of
this Astros lineup, primarily Josel tuvaz So.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
I was at dinner last night and I was watching
as SGA was hoisting up the worst MVP trophy to
ever exist. It's just a terrible looking trophy. I don't
care what anybody says. And I remember watching basses loaded
and looking turn to Cares. I say, if they don't
score here, they don't deserve to win. Because of when
you have basses loaded against a pitcher that is coming
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off of a major injury and hasn't been on the
and basically is hitting reset after two months, you have
to take advantage of that. I agree with you at
that moment when you saw that fly ball the way
that it traveled and it was deep enough to where
you were able to score. Who was at Mauricio was
here on third at that point or was it was
it Cam Okay, so as Mauricio who came home, I
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felt more comfortable because that's the type of swing that
you want to see from Josel to be at thirty
five years old. It's deep enough to win, you have
runners in scoring position, it's gonna score, and it's also
got enough philosophy on the ball to where it could
drop and you get on base.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
And I will take that.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
And again, like you already brought this up, thirteen hits
last night, one none for Esac Prees. The only thing
like it was it wasn't a good Esac Pares game
because he also had an error in the matchup. Okay, whatever,
I will take that. If it means that I'm getting
a multi hit game from Yanu Diaz in the four hole,
if it means I'm getting a multi hit game for
Victor Karantieny, who's filling in right now is the left
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handed bat in place of jord On Alvaas, if I'm
getting at least one hit from Zach Decenzo or a
Camsmith or a du Bond who's playing at second, or
Brandon Rodgers for that matter, I will take that because
of it's showing you that there is more consistency with
this lineup and that they truly aren't that far off
in a division that is winnable. It very much is
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like like we're sitting here and we complain because of
as Astros fans, our brains are wired to believing we
are still the best in the American League, and we're not.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
And that's fine, but it is a winnable division.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
You're still two games above five hundred with mediocre play
against the Reds at times, with mediocre play against the Rangers,
with the inability to hit on Thursday and give run support.
The one hundred Brown beautiful performance and the way that
we saw them play in Tampa. What the hundred Brown
gaven Thursday night?
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Oh you talking about? Oh gotcha? Okay, I thought you
were talking about the most recent one.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Yeah, that was No.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
That's a game to where, look, we can talk about
one hundred having a six and four record. That's one
of the ones to where you say, okay, you give
up four runs and three long balls in the first
five innings, it's going to be a rocky path to
come back from deep fly balls that got out. I mean,
that was pretty much what it was. I mean, he
didn't help himself in the first inning. But then I
mean you also, you know, saw him be the beneficiary
(37:16):
of bad luck from the rays of I mean, seeing
some of those balls off the bat, I was like,
that would be a flyout at Dyking you mean, how
literally everywhere besides right field at Yankee Stadium and where
you play now, which is the Yankees Minor League ballpark.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
That's a home run shocker. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
So, I mean we've seen a lot of the frustrating
times with this lineup.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
I mean, and you know, Lord.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Knows I've documented them too, But I mean that kind
of got the night going. And then you get the
three run fourth inning there, of course, capped off with
the two run triple that Jeremy Payne was able to hit.
But then Altuve able to help out other guys able
to chip in, you know, Mauricio, excuse me, Jeremy Pania
chipping in again, you get Victor Karattini with an RBI.
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I mean, it just it was top to ball where
it just seems like this group has been so disjointed
at times this year, and that's been part of the frustration,
is that, Okay, you know, you start to get the
middle of the order guys going, and then you're not
getting anything out of the bottom of the order, where
you know recently you've been getting the bottom of the
order getting things going like six, seven, eight nine last night,
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three hits out of Victor Kartini, one from Jake Myers,
a hit from camp Smith, and then also a couple
of hits from Mauricio Dubon, And he was the guy
that broke the gates open for you to be able
to reel off more runs after that RBI single, to
be able to make it three two.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
But that's what you want to see from the bottom
of your lineup. But you also want to see from
the top of your lineup is that they have eight
combined hits from the one two three spot. That's the difference.
I'll take five or six hits from a MAURICEO. Myers
Dezenzo Smith combination as long as I'm getting seven or
eight hits from a pinga Parade is not two BA combination.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
Yeah, it's six hits last night from the first five
guys in the order. I mean, finally move Christian Walker
the cleanup spot. That was nice to see, but I
mean the results haven't necessarily translated.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
I'm given him one more game with the mustache. I
will give him one more game before we dude shave
the caterpillar, get rid of.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
That or even you know, soon enough, just go like
mullets maybe, I mean, just just find you gotta find something, man,
you gotta, you gotta, you know, almost become like Kevin
Costner's character and tin Cup of looking ridiculous on the
driving lump shops on top and didn't have you know,
as somebody that's like Romeo told them, because you're not
thinking about the doctor lady man.
Speaker 7 (39:33):
It's just something's gotta change. Because of again you are
seeing him. He's had what two hits in the last
two games, so okay, you move him out of the
four hole when he was oh of sixteen after getting
an RBI double on Saturday, he has two hits. Can
we get something going in that five spot.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
It'd be nice to see.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
I mean, he's kind of the last part of all
of this with this Astros batting order this year, so
hopefully you can start to see Christian Walker put it
all together. Yin or Di has a couple of hits
last night, although I mean he still had some of
those at bats early on in the game where I'm
just like, dude, we're in game fifty one now away.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Why are you swinging so far to the outside.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
It's just like I said, it's it's been frustrating to
you know, say the least with how Yaner Diaz has
approached some of his at bats, because it's not only that,
it's just it's also too of taking the pitch that
he should be ambushing, which is a fastball that's middle in,
and it's just like, no, that's the pitch.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
You just missed your pitch.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
That's why they are able to get you to start chasing,
and you're you're doing it, so obviously the book is
out there on you.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Hey, you're giving them free target prackets.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
That's what it is, I mean, And that's what it's
been for him for much of the season. As Yeah,
like I mentioned, he gets a couple of hits last
night two thirty one. Now with the six twenty four
ops for Yiner Diaz. All right, it's uh mentioned it
about Lance mccullors and just how important that performance was
last night. It'll be even more important going forward. We'll
discuss that. Start seven the clock hour here does the
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Four and a third, eight strikeouts from Lance McCullers, Junior
Renel Blanco on the il with elbow inflammation, Gonna seek
a second opinion and a men. Thompson named the NBA's
All Defensive First Team for the twenty twenty four twenty
five season seven one three, two, one two five seven
ninety The number two get In talked about a little
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bit of mccullor's performance last night. And this is after
we get you know, Jospota in the dugout before the
game saying second opinion all of that, which we'll just
start there.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
Cole.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
I mean if what does that mean?
Speaker 6 (42:21):
Well, I mean and and and that's That's where I'm going,
is that you know, I heard Ross mention this last
night's on the pregame show that if you got what
you wanted to hear in the first opinion, well then
you're not going to seek a second opinion. So it's
just whenever people do this and teams do this, and
I get it too. I mean, look, maybe there is
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the outlier of they'll be like, oh, no, rest, recuperation,
he'll be fine, you know, just just keep keep them
from throwing for you here for a few weeks and
then you can give it another shot here in about
a month. But it just feels like you're delaying the
inevitable when you do that. It's like, why not if
you already have a good idea of how this is
going to play out, just go ahead and start the
CLA man.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
If he plays again this year, which again big if
minimum August In my opinion, minimum is August when we'll
see him back after the All Star break. He's gonna
have to go through a couple of rehab stants, he's
gonna be on rest for the next month, not even
picking up a baseball. That's if, and again that's you
looking at it from the positive side of things. Here's
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the other problem with it. If you wait too long,
you're keeping him out for longer than a year, because
if he's getting TJ surgery, or if he's get going
underneath the knife in say July or August, he's not
pitching in twenty twenty six, he's not gonna be back
in time for you.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
And so you really wasted two months of what.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
Could have been recovery to where maybe he would have
been back in June of next year, July, right before
the All Star Game, but it would have given you
another arm, and an arm that probably would have added
tremendous value in a race to winning the Pennant. Once again,
you shut yourself in the foot because if you wanted
that second opinion, that second opinion that you're getting better,
come with bit of upside and presence and joy and
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that there is a serendipity shot in the dark that
he is gonna pitch again at some point in a
run to the postseason. Because if not one hundred percent
agree with you, you have got to stop delaying the inevitable.
You did this with Hayden was an esky, and I
get it. You wanted to make sure that everything was
crossed off for you. Had to get him underneath the knife.
But at least you said, we're not gonna put him
back out there this year. He's not gonna pitch anymore.
(44:26):
Let's get him into surgery. Let's make sure that he's
ready for twenty twenty six. Do that, we'll run out Blanco.
If you have that second opinion, and even if you
have the shredded out up, maybe it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
Maybe it's not.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
Well, I mean, it's just it's I just I think
you're kidding yourself at a certain point, because when it
comes to elbows, shoulders, I'm not necessarily as concerned. I mean,
unless you know it's rotator cuff, it's labrohm and stuff
like that, then of course, yeah, you're gonna be done.
But I mean when you have elbow issues like this
or forearms, that's what I'm immediately like, it's a long
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shot at best that you're coming back. And it's not
only that, it's you know, the for me, like mentally,
I'm already preparing myself that you're not going to have
him the rest of the season. I mean, it's if
you're doing this and you know, yesterday we have Dana
Brown on and he said, oh, we'll have an update
later on the afternoon.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
That to me is me and Gordy talked about afterwards.
Speaker 6 (45:20):
That raised my INTENTNA because if it's good news, well
then you want to shout it from the rooftops, right
of saying like, hey, you know what, we feel like
we we dodged something here, you know, met with the doctor.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Things looking good.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
We'll talk about a little bit later on this afternoon,
but we're feeling good. We feel like we're still going
to see Renel Blanco. Back in twenty twenty five, Cole,
we didn't get that.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
But is that data thing?
Speaker 7 (45:37):
Like, is that just a data thing. Let's just wait
until we get all the media around. He'll be he'll
be transparent, Yes he is.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
He is probably one of the very few executives that
you ask him a question, he'll give you a direct response.
And I do appreciate that about it.
Speaker 7 (45:52):
So then that that should have been the sign right
then and there. Okay, it's not good news, Like I'm
not saying that it was season ender. I'm not saying
that you're to put him under the knife. But that
was a sign guaranteed he is not pitching anytime soon.
He's probably not pitching till after the All Star break.
And now we have.
Speaker 5 (46:07):
To look at two things.
Speaker 7 (46:08):
Number one, what does our farm system look like with
a lot of these younger guys, the AJ Blue Blue
bas the Ryan Gustos. You know, you just brought up
what's his name who just started on Wednesday? Why am
I blanking on Brandon Walter? Brandon Walter? There you go, yeah,
Walter White, because yeah, that guy, he's back up it
they end.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
Up not working out.
Speaker 7 (46:27):
The question that I have is when do you start
making that phone call to another organization to go bring
in another starting pitcher.
Speaker 6 (46:34):
Because the windows right now so open to well, it's
it's not only that it's still open. I mean I
think the problem with that is it's still early enough
where you're not going to have teams that are going
to really feel compelled to make a move because I
mean they look at it. I mean, let's just take
the Angels for example, not saying that you would trade
with the Angels, but that's also a team that is
what five games out of first at this moment, but
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they also they are three games back right now, so
I'm I mean for the Angels, they look at it.
And say, therefore, excuse me, but you get my point.
I mean, they're not completely out of this thing right now.
So I mean you've got teams like them, the Rays.
I mean they're seven games back. I don't think the
Rays necessarily believe that they're going to be contenders this year.
But you still got good arms there. So the point
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being is that you have teams that are saying, hey,
you know, give us a shout. In about a month,
maybe we'll talk with you, maybe even a couple of months.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
Then we're willing to talk with you.
Speaker 6 (47:25):
Because you do start to see teams fall back and
they don't look like that they are going to be
able to make that run to get back into this thing,
and then that's when they start being receptive to your calls.
Speaker 7 (47:34):
Rag Getty is going to have to go through basically
a second spring training. You don't know when you're getting back.
Grown out, block out, Hayden wasz Nesky is going to
be out for the rest of the year. That's three
pitchers from your opening weeks starting rotation that are out.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
I think of it in this way.
Speaker 7 (47:49):
It's a thirty day period, thirty day window, just like
the transfer portal you got thirty days figure out what
is your next course of action. In those thirty days,
I better have an answer on what does the rest
of my rotation look like? Do I feel good about Gusto?
Do I feel good about Walter? Do I feel good
about having Atlance mccullors give me five strong? What am
I getting from from ber? What am I getting from
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Hunter Brown? Who is maybe stepping on up from the
bullpen side of things? Because of that point, if I'm
still three or five games over five hundred, if I'm
still in the hunt for the American League West title,
if I'm still right there alongside with Texas and right
alongside with Seattle, and maybe I'm even ahead of them
a little bit, but I know that I need that
extra arm that can be my number three consistent, six
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ending strong.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
That's where I'm making a phone call.
Speaker 7 (48:34):
And sometimes the beauty of what is when it comes
to scouting is when you have a knack and a
knowledge of understanding what you're looking for, you sometimes are
able to swindle a deal and get a Cole Reagan's
out of it the way they can't stay.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
Dad with Texas well, and it's you know, how good
is your scouting department in terms of being able to
evaluate not only your own guys. But then you know,
it's you call a team and you ask about somebody, Hey,
why are they asking about him? Well, they're asking about
him because of this. There's certain team that have that reputation.
The Astros are one of them. The Rays were that
team forever of you know, you traded away Chris Archer.
Speaker 5 (49:06):
What the hell are you doing?
Speaker 6 (49:07):
And then you see the risk, you know, the package
they get back in return of you know, you get, yeah,
you get you get Glass now I mean you get
Jake Bowers. I mean just a really good package back.
And Chris Archer fell off the face of the planet.
So like, right as soon as he touched down in
Pittsburgh's career was over. Well, that happens to a lot
of people, but like even quarterback situation. But and you know,
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it's it's having now to count on somebody that you
know is here and somebody that you hope is here.
Who you know is here is Lance mccullor's junior, right,
And this is the thing that I have cautioned people
against ever since there was even belief that mccullor's is
gonna be on a moundain this year is I said
him pitched in two years, guys, So I understand you
want to see immediate results. You want to see him
get back to what we believe Lance mccullor's junior can be.
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But as we've seen from these first what four starts
that he's made, it's showing you that those two years
are still causing a little bit of a build up
for you.
Speaker 7 (50:01):
If you got last night's performance of Lance mccolors fifteen
times this year, how would you.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
Feel feel great about it?
Speaker 6 (50:06):
Because I think eventually he is going to be able
to get out of the fifth and then maybe even
be able to get you into the sixth inning, which
are things that you hope for with him. The good
and the bad with Lance is he's got a ton
of movement, all right. Well, he can get a lot
of swing and miss. The bad is well, he can
also walk a lot of guys, and he walked three
of them last night.
Speaker 7 (50:23):
So if you give me one extra walk, one extra run,
one extra strikeout for one extra ending, so I'm getting
five and a third. I'll take that because if as
long as my offense is able to be combative, as
long as it's able to hit with drunders in scoring position.
And I'm watching the way that my bullpen has performed,
especially in the first fifty three games of the season.
Speaker 5 (50:43):
I feel really good.
Speaker 7 (50:45):
About the trajectory of a pitcher that hasn't been on
the mound in two years.
Speaker 5 (50:49):
He's only going to improve.
Speaker 7 (50:51):
And again, I agree with you that movement on the
ball is sometimes a negative because it leads to a
lot of outside pitches that will lead to good walks,
that will put runners on base, and it puts you
in situations to where, now, if you're Joe's body, you
have to decide how many more pitches am I gonna
give him? But I'll take five and a third, seven strikeouts,
three earned runs and four walks if that means I
get good play for my bullpen.
Speaker 8 (51:11):
Well.
Speaker 6 (51:12):
And the you know what we don't know is are
you going to see Christian Hobvier sometime this year? Sure,
you get woe was it like a week two ago
that he threw fifteen pitches off a mount in West
Palm Beach. I mean, I'm not trying to, you know,
hurry somewhat up here, but I mean I think the
fact that again, not getting good news where you're not
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getting Hey, he threw again, all right, soon enough, he's
gonna throw in a SIM game, all right, he's gonna
throw in a lower level game down here in the
Florida Gulf Coast League, whatever it might be. I mean,
you're getting none of those things right now, and that
to me signals that, well, you're not going to be
able to count on him this season, and that's discouraging.
Speaker 7 (51:49):
You know how they say no news is good news.
You ever heard that saying not with pitchers now? So
when I hear second opinion, that's the kiss of death
on that. Like, to me, that is just straight up
that's that's even a worse not getting good newde like
the Gang. It's just it's it's also too.
Speaker 6 (52:03):
I mean, you know you're you're sending them to your
team doctors, right, So if you don't trust what your
team doctor is saying, then what are you doing? I mean,
it's who I mean, and who knows what the diagnosis was.
Maybe the doctors said, hey, you know, I'm thinking it's this,
but you might want to consult someone else.
Speaker 5 (52:18):
I mean, maybe that does happen.
Speaker 6 (52:20):
But it's like you hire these people because you believe
that they are the best.
Speaker 7 (52:24):
Right, I'm like doctor Cox, throwing my head against the banister,
screaming into it whenever I here, Oh second, opigion from
an outside noise? What is your regular doctor not seeing
in this prognosis to where we got to go to
an outside dude to just tell us what we already know.
Speaker 6 (52:39):
Well, it just seems like you're delaying the inevitable at
a certain point and the astros. We'll see if indeed
this does have a happy ending to the story. But
me and you both have our doubts and probably seems
like Renel Blanco is doing it for the twenty twenty
five season.
Speaker 5 (52:54):
But hopefully we're wrong.
Speaker 6 (52:55):
Look, I have no problem being wrong, especially in situations
like this. You can give me wrong game. I mean,
I mean, not so much me, but you know, I
try to never be wrong. But if I am, look
I'll own up to it. So that's just the transparency
I try to deliver for all of you out there,
for you, the people.
Speaker 5 (53:15):
As we continue.
Speaker 6 (53:16):
Here on the Shawn Salisbury Show, a Michigan father and
son say they saw something.
Speaker 5 (53:21):
Oh my god, I hope this is true. Please make
this true.
Speaker 6 (53:25):
As we will talk about that here as we get
continued to get going here in the seven o'clock hour,
it is the Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven to.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
Ninety emunctionally tied to the team.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
The Seawan Salisbury Show continues, Ah, let's.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
Go all right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?
Speaker 2 (53:49):
The Salisbury takeout?
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Salisbury takeout on the Seawan Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (53:58):
It is the Salisbury state out here on the Sean
Salisberry Show. Sports Soca seven ninety Astros nine to two
winners last night over the Mariners, a couple of home
runs from jose L twove Renel Blanco inflammation in his elbow,
gonna seek a second opinion, and the thundertake a two
e leite on the Timberwolves in the NBA's Western Conference Finals.
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Do you believe in Bigfoot? Cole Thompson, Yes, I do.
What makes you believe in Bigfoot? I know it's out there.
Speaker 5 (54:25):
I believe in now.
Speaker 7 (54:26):
I believe in aliens, the Locknus Monster, everything that has
ever been reported. I guarantee you someone actually saw it. See,
so you believe?
Speaker 8 (54:33):
All right?
Speaker 6 (54:33):
So I talked about these. I talk about this all
the time with teams of teams. Hope they can win,
as opposed to teams that believe they can win. I'm
in the hope phase of this because this is where
my skepticism comes in. If it's real or in the
case of bigfoots, I mean, you have encounters supposedly in
the Midwest, in the Northwest, you know, you know, on
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the east coast, like for example, the station I used
to work out, we used to do shows in western
North Carolina. Sure, and you go through some of these
small towns and the Appalacha right there, you go, you go,
and I remember, and I can't remember what small town
it was that. I think it was in northeast Georgia.
But they had a Bigfoot shop and I think even
a makeshift museum of people who have claimed to have
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seen Bigfoot there in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountain.
Speaker 7 (55:22):
My people, those I guarantee you I was driving through
to get to Charlotte, and I stopped off in that town.
I would make sure that we made a detour to
go and see that museum, because I'm fully invested in.
Speaker 5 (55:31):
It, whether or not it's real.
Speaker 7 (55:33):
The thing with me is that I have the hope
that there is something greater out there and I want
to have that feeling for whatever I have kids that
that is the beliefs.
Speaker 6 (55:43):
Like, isn't there supposedly in like the remote woods of
Tennessee supposed to be like this like indigenous group of
people that they're cannibals and they don't speak English, like
whatever it is. And like people have said, you know,
said to have had encounters with them, which that's creepy enough.
Speaker 7 (55:59):
And yeah, like there's that family that is the most
inbred family in West Virginia. And I'm like, no, that's
the most inbred family that you know of.
Speaker 5 (56:07):
That he took it in a direction I was not
hoping to go here. That is gross beyond belief, all right.
Speaker 6 (56:12):
So a father and son on a fishing trip in
Michigan reported a close encounter with who they thought was Bigfoot.
They were out with their dog when all of a sudden,
they're walking through the woods and they hear just this
massive thump. The dad Edward writing, I was bowfishing today
with my son.
Speaker 5 (56:31):
Around eleven thirty.
Speaker 6 (56:32):
We walked down Plum Creek past four Bridges, which is
a railroad bridge. I guess headed into the marsh. One
hundred yards into the marsh, the dog scared something up
that was bedded there. The trees were shaking. We thought
it was a group of deer. We continued for about
two hundred more yards into the marsh, heading back through
the cattails, we observed a lot of deer beds and
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heard some sirens in the distance. So Ed decided to
pull out his phone as earbuds and pull up the
police scanner app to find out what was going on.
His son and dog both behind him. They heard rustling
in the trees and a huge thud hitting the ground
From the trees, A huge, heavy animal hit the ground,
crouched and started moving towards me through the brush. My
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dog fired off to the right of me towards the creature.
Dog almost got to it, but the creature shot off
extremely fast through the trees and brush, and the dog
chased it up the slope and over the train tracks.
So he then called for his dog to come back.
He said, his son said to him, holy crap, what
was that. It was as big as a bear, but
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looked like a gorilla. We walked back. We heard something
crunching in the ground behind us, and we left so
saying that it was.
Speaker 5 (57:47):
Big as a bear.
Speaker 6 (57:48):
Like immediately too, where again hoping like would love to
actually like that this has happened. But again the skepticism
of all of the cameras, of all of the people
that are out there, like, how do we not have
anything that's more more than a grainy you know, footage
from Montana years ago of what people think it's bigfoot.
And then there's also people that believe that somebody just
put on a gorilla suits and said, hey, here, let
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me have some fun.
Speaker 7 (58:10):
See you said bear, and you said moves like the
size of a gorilla. Immediately my brain went to Al Gore,
Man bear Pig south Park, which.
Speaker 6 (58:18):
I want to be sure, and I know it's been
it's been years for me for south Park, so you're
probably gonna have to you know, you're gonna have to
unroll that for so Man bear Pig is basically a
terminology that al Gore used at a time when talking
about global warming, and South Park decided to take it
to a new extreme where literally they created a man
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bear pig hybrid that they threw in an episode called
Imagination Land and it became a reality and al Gore,
who was in love with the fact that South Park
made fun of him was like fully invested in, and
so then they created a whole new character of it.
But like it's the size of a bear, it moves
like a man, but it sounds like a pig. The
way you described it was main bear pig, not Bigfoot.
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So maybe like we're talking about some sort of like
government psyop. Heare that, like you know, they've made like
a bear into something else.
Speaker 5 (59:09):
That sasquatch is Or isn't that what Bigfoot is?
Speaker 7 (59:12):
Just a very bad experiment gone wrong that you throw
into the wild.
Speaker 5 (59:16):
No, it could be.
Speaker 6 (59:17):
I mean, you know, look, I'm not one to shy
away from conspiracy theories. Like you know, when I was younger,
I was like, you know, oh man, you know, conspiracy
theories they're for wackos. But then you know, soon enough
some of them started coming true. So then you're like, well,
I can't really you know it, dispute them anymore. But
in this case, I mean again, I'm in the hope
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you're in the belief. Like Elon Musk has said numerous
times that he doesn't believe that UFOs are real. No,
they're real, And people will then respond of saying that's
somebody who is an alien that's exactly what they would say.
Speaker 5 (59:51):
But I loved his line. They sure are subtle.
Speaker 7 (59:53):
Well okay, like I truly believe tilta Swinton from the
line of the Witch in the world. Unless the only
think I know are from or from Doctor Strange. That's
an alien like that is a legit alien that is
living amongst us. By the way that she acts, the
way that she talks, that is what I envision them
breaking onto this earth.
Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
And I'm okay with calling her out on that one.
She looks like one.
Speaker 6 (01:00:13):
It's like in Men in Black, you know. Yeah, I
had the second grade teacher. Man, we thought she was
from Mars, miss so and so, yeah, she was from
Jupiter like that.
Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
Like I love stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (01:00:22):
Like have you ever heard the story about Richard Nixon
and Jackie Leeson with aliens? No, so apparently they got
bombed one night, like they're just drinking like crazy and
that Nixon with his good buddy, goes, hey, you want
to see some crazy stuff? Like that's one of those
that you know, you could either look at it two fold.
I was thinking about this last night when I heard
the story again, is that you could look at it
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as hey, I've got a friend that can see some things,
and he's asking me if I want to see some
crazy stuff?
Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
Hell yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
But then it also is the other part, how good
of a friend is that? Because then this friend could
be showing it to these things and then he tells
whoever you know, Cia and say, whoever it is, Hey,
he knows too much.
Speaker 7 (01:01:02):
No, that's like, that's like the last shot line that
I go about. You're on that line of do you
want another sip of whiskey?
Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
You do it?
Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
You do a shot. If you do it, it's like
the matrix. You're going in Yogo see some weird stuff.
So you take either the red pill. I guess case
you do take the red pill. You either take the
shot or you go home. And that's the line is that, Hey,
you wants you some crazy stuff? Do you take the shot?
If you take it, you don't know what to expect next.
If you don't, you're going home and you're just you're
never wondering about it again.
Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
So we actually did go up to as far as
you can get close to Area fifty one in Nevada once,
and all you can really do is go up to
this It's not even a fence. It's just a sign
that says I don't even remember what it said, but
I think it pretty much told you you coming any
further than God help you.
Speaker 7 (01:01:48):
Do you remember when they had that what was it
twenty seventeen where they were going to try to raid
Area fifty one.
Speaker 6 (01:01:53):
There was a Facebook message great, yeah, that people were
going to try to run like Dragon ball Z characters
or whatever to get through, and it's just like, yeah,
that's that's not gonna work. There's some people who wonder,
now if you know, the government's using remote viewing, which
is basically like people being seances that can see like
other parts of the world like at any given time,
which I would love to believe that that's the case.
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If that is the case, is it trainable because I'd
be willing to do that.
Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
What do you believe that pigeons are cameras?
Speaker 6 (01:02:20):
I mean there are people who will say, you know,
birds are not real. They stop being real back in
the sixties. I mean that's something that maybe see I
believe birds are real. Did anybody did anybody look at
the pigeon that Randy Randy Johnson shattered, you know, just
completely obliterated.
Speaker 7 (01:02:35):
Like that's what I'm talking about, like it's it's not birds,
it's pigeons, because I don't remember seeing pigeons back in
the day, but guess what, nineteen sixty worlds around, pigeons
are everywhere.
Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
What would be the reason for that? What's the reason,
Dan Matthews. No, it's interesting.
Speaker 6 (01:02:50):
But like with Area fifty one, like you know, if
I went back now, I would kind of hope that,
like I don't know if they if they do have
alien craft and like they're flying it around, that they
would like fly it like a little bit off their
flight path and be like, oh my god, Like they
honestly just need to mess with people when they do that,
Like just put up drones that look like they could
be UFOs and just.
Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
Fly them around. Dude, I'm telling you.
Speaker 7 (01:03:11):
Area fifty one, I think at this point is just
a scare tactic. Like all the all the government evidence
of aliens existing, it's somewhere in like Butte, Montana or
something like that.
Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
See, that's just it. Like it's like Area fifty one.
Speaker 6 (01:03:23):
You almost feel like is like what Fort Knox is,
Like you know, hey, all the gold's there, all the
gold's not there. No, But that's just it like it's
just like, hey, where's where's the where's the black ops
site that we don't know about?
Speaker 7 (01:03:36):
Just send your least likely friend to ever see again,
just because they ran off into something else to Area
fifty one. Tell them to go touch the building they
come back, guess what they survived, because they're going to.
I promise you it's a scare tactic with Area fifty one.
Speaker 6 (01:03:49):
No, maybe they just they take you in and they
feed you to the aliens. What a way to go out,
though they know that actually be one of the worst
ways of all the ways to go you know, drowning,
falling off a building, something like that. I would probably say,
being eaten alive by something is right up there.
Speaker 7 (01:04:07):
Oh alive, I would. But what if they just see
you one bite? What if it's like what if it's
like Jurassic Park, like.
Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
You didn't even necessarily see it coming? No, you know,
just clever girl, boom out. That's one way to look
at it.
Speaker 6 (01:04:20):
I guess if you don't necessarily see it come and
the lights go out and you're just like, oh man,
what the hell just happened?
Speaker 7 (01:04:26):
Well maybe, well I'm also one of those people that
wants to go on a blaze of glory like in
the war battles, like like I'm one of those when
you see that that three hundred scene. I want to
be a Leonio this last man standing.
Speaker 6 (01:04:36):
That's the way I want to just take on a
throng of arrows coming at you, fire away.
Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
All right, Well that's Cole Thompson for you.
Speaker 6 (01:04:42):
I guess we will continue here on the Sean Salisbury
Show Sports Talk seven ninety. You want to get into
a little bit more on the Astros hitters, because I
will caution fans on this. If you really want this
wish granted, then you better not complain if it becomes
that's true, and I'll explain what I mean right here
on Sports Talk seven to ninety.
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For The Sewn Salisbury Show continues. Yesterday, I was watching,
you know, before the Astros. It was a early afternoon
game and the Yankees are taking on the Rangers, and
I saw that those on TV, so I was like, okay, fine, yeah,
I'll watch. You know, it's something to be able to
fall asleep to for the mid mid afternoon nap. And
(01:06:55):
it's also you know, see how the Rangers do if
the Astros are able to hopefully gain some ground on them.
Speaker 7 (01:07:00):
By the way, I'm jealous that you can actually take
a midday nap. It's is it is a nice perk.
Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
I'm not gonna lie like it's it's being able to
be finished here at ten, you know, do whatever I
need to do up here, and then head home and
be able to nod off for about an hour or so.
It's it's definitely nice any and you want to make
sure too, like that's one thing that I learned a
long time ago. Somebody had taught me this doing morning radio.
They said your naps about an hour. Yeah, well what
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if I only slept like four hours? You want to
not throw off your sleep schedule, so then maybe you'll
be tired when nine o'clock rolls around, and you can
get a good seven hours and.
Speaker 7 (01:07:37):
Feel good the next No, I'm just jealous that you
can take naps in general. It doesn't matter if it's
a midday nap or a four PM I can't now right.
Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
I am when i'm up. I am up until i'm out.
Speaker 6 (01:07:48):
If I'm tired, I am not going to fight it.
If I'm tired and I have the ability, I'm just
gonna let nature take its course.
Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
See.
Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
I need my brain to finally start listening to my
body and say stop having ideas at three in the morning,
just go to sleep, because that's where my brain is
at three in the afternoon.
Speaker 6 (01:08:04):
They have things for that. In some cases it's legal,
some cases it's not. I mean, I'm just I'm not
here to judge. I'm not here to tell you to
go one way or the other. I'm just telling you that,
you know, they got things for that. I got too
much railing around some of my brain down, see, and
that's what's that's what's always funny too. And I'll get
to my example here for the Astros in a second,
is don't you love that like when you're trying to
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go to sleep and then like you have things like
that that happen, or you go down a rabbit hole
on social media, whatever it might be, that you're just like,
couldn't I do this at any other time?
Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
Like? Why? Why?
Speaker 15 (01:08:35):
Is?
Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
Why is there all of a sudden yearning to do
this right now?
Speaker 7 (01:08:39):
Like here since sent me a video yesterday that said,
when you say good night, you don't actually mean good night.
One of you is going to sleep and the other
one is staying up on TikTok reels until two am. Yep,
why am I the one that is the ladder? Is
my only question? Yeah, it's it's Megan for that.
Speaker 6 (01:08:53):
She she's the one that like, as soon as I'm
like all right, you know, see you in the morning,
which I mean I'm up in the morning, right, you know,
she's the dogs are too.
Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
But anyway, so I'm watching the game day.
Speaker 6 (01:09:04):
And the Yankees beat the Rangers won the nothing, and
it immediately got me thinking of, oh, the Rangers did
what some Astros fans have wanted them to do, and
that's get rid of Alex sent Trome, Troy Snicker, whoever,
and just switch up the offensive staff here for your
hitting coach. And they did that a few weeks ago
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when they let go of their offensive coordinator who I
can't remember. His name doesn't matter, but they bring in
Brett Boone, right, does matter. So they did it during
the Red Sox series. And in that Red Sox series,
they scored six runs against the Red Sox in the
very first game, they scored for the night following, and
then they got shut out the next game. Then they
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went to Detroit one run, they put up ten runs,
six runs, won both of those games, two runs against
the Rockies, four against the Rockies eight and we swept
that series. One against the Astros, three in a loss,
five in a win, three in a loss. And then
they go to New York and they score two runs
at three runs and no runs yesterday to get swept.
(01:10:08):
And that's where I'm looking at it and saying, Okay,
I get, you know, thinking that maybe there needs to
be a new voice that you know, just the approaches
aren't improving. You've got the guys that are supposed to
be hitting they're not hitting. And you know, the Rangers
are also pretty similar with the Astros, where they don't
have Corey Seeger right now, he's kind of the straw
starts to drink offensively for them. The Astros don't have
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Jordan Alvarez. All of those things kind of bake in.
But it just also again, whenever people something's not going right,
fire the coaches. Oh you know, fire the OC like
let be hosty you. I was kind of surprised that
Bobby Slowak was fired this year. I thought that he
was going to get at least an opportunity to be
able to make good on it. But clearly enough Dmiko
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Ryans and c. J. Stroud whoever else, they just didn't
feel like that he was the right guy for the job.
Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
So they moved on.
Speaker 6 (01:10:55):
Okay, fine, but it's also now you've made that.
Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
Now you've ring that bell.
Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
There's a reason in football why coaches get an opportunity
to flip their coordinators. And then after that you've got
if it's the college level, you've got your administration. If
it's the pro level, you got the owner looking at
you saying, well, now it's on you, dude. Now you
did it. So with the Astros. Okay, fine, you make
that move, but what the hell tells you that anything
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is going to be marked improvement in terms of what
you've already been getting. The answer for me is, look,
I'll go with who I know and maybe after the
season you can have those discussions and make those evaluations.
But you just making a change does not mean that
this thing is going to completely turn around.
Speaker 7 (01:11:39):
My personal belief is bearing a complete and total destruction.
I mean the way that Colorado's playing right now, the
way that Pittsburgh's playing right now. Coaching staffs are meant
to be changed at the end of the year. When
you enter the year, you have to give them one
hundred and sixty two games to figure out what is
the identity of this team, and afterwards then you can
figure out what needs to change for us to get
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to that next level. But I think it's dumb when
you have an entire offseason to make the necessary changes,
to think that you are trending downwards, to think that
there is not a laundry list of evidence that backs
up your claim of this isn't working. This is what
needs to change, This is what we're seeing that hasn't
been going in our favor to where you're saying, oh, well,
now we're going to make the firing in the middle
(01:12:21):
of June. You don't know what you're going to get
on the opposing side. And I'm not agreeing with you
that I'll take what I already know. But what I
am saying is is that what I know right now
is better than maybe thinking that it's going to get better,
because in my opinion, it always gets worse before it
gets better. So it's mediocre right now, it's going to
(01:12:41):
get dreadful before you actually get back to mediocre.
Speaker 6 (01:12:44):
Well, and you know, the Rangers, I mean that's you know,
kind of in the same vein as the Astro has
been getting really good pitching. It's just the hitting has
not been there, and they've had their issues with runners
in scoring position. The Astros obviously did not last night.
You hope that that's something that maybe might be a
little bit of a leaf turn for them, But I
mean still, you know, when you look at the overall numbers, yeah,
I mean, you've had it down year so far from
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you on your dias. You've had same from Christian Walker
before the hand injury. It was the same deal with
Jordan Alvarez. Hopefully you get him back here pretty soon.
But I mean again, it's just it's not bad enough
for me to look at it and say, oh, wholesale
changes are needed, because then it becomes reactionary. And then
when you become a reactionary, you don't have a foundation
underneath you to necessarily guard against. Okay, if this thing
(01:13:29):
gets even worse, then it's people looking at everybody else
in the building saying, Okay, well, then what does that
say about you?
Speaker 7 (01:13:34):
Look maybe it's because if I went into this year
thinking that Houston was going to be a playoff team,
nothing more, nothing less.
Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
That's just what I said.
Speaker 7 (01:13:41):
And it's not to be disrespectful thinking that there are
other teams out there that can be competitive, But I
just look at it as they're a playoff team. They
can still be a playoff team in this division with
the way they're hitting right now, because if they currently
are only two gains back, I'm not gonna make that change.
Speaker 5 (01:13:56):
And I didn't think that they were going to be
anything more.
Speaker 7 (01:13:58):
So why am I going to hope that they could
regress to only get better when I can go into
the offseason and make the changes that will keep them
in the same conversation that we're having right now, if
not a better one.
Speaker 6 (01:14:08):
Major League Baseball. We talked about this a little bit yesterday.
They've already had discussions with somebody, but somebody else I
would absolutely run away from this idea. We'll talk about
it here to close out the seven o'clock hour.
Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
Don't forget.
Speaker 6 (01:14:20):
Eric Krat's gonna join us from Foul Territory TV at
nine o'clock right here on Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
We want to wait.
Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
Someone three two, one two five, seven ninety. Could Apple
TV be even more of a presence on your MLB coverage.
We'll discuss that here in at just a second, But
first Shina wants to weigh in.
Speaker 5 (01:14:47):
Good morning, Sheena, Hi, good morning.
Speaker 10 (01:14:51):
Just a couple of comments on things that have been
talked about through the morning. You know, going back to
what y'all have talked about with the coaching, I think
it's really hard for you know, fans when they're yelling
at we need a coaching change to judge what's going
on really behind the scene.
Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
There's only so much coaching can do.
Speaker 10 (01:15:07):
You can tell, you know, going back to an issue
that hasn't been as present this season. But just as
an easy example, Penya's swinging constantly at that slider that went,
you know, off the plate outside. It's like you can
constantly tell him.
Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
Not to do that.
Speaker 10 (01:15:21):
But when he's got you know, just a split second
to recognize the pitch and decide to lay off of it,
actually putting that into action, it's like completely different story.
And I think you also need to give our hitting
coaches the credit that they deserve. It's like Penya is
having a breakout ear Myers is having a breakout year.
We've seen some better at bats from cam Smith lafe late.
(01:15:43):
We've seen some better at bats from McCormick lately. As
far as Altuve, Altuve has always been a streaky hitter
and always will be a streaky hitter. Just need to
give him some time to climb out of it. So
so that's my opinion on that. I also wanted to
go back to something y'all were talking about earlier with
Blanco in the second opinion. So to me, the second
(01:16:04):
opinion is, yeah, we know he needs Tommy John, we
know he's got this issue with his elbow. But there
are a few you know, star surgeons and experts when
it comes to Tommy John, and you do have the
two types of Hommy Tommy John. You have the hybrid
that has the faster recovery and then you've got you know,
(01:16:25):
your traditional Tommy John. You also have what I think,
you know, not knowing I think all the information. But
what I think Garrett Cole did last year with he
had some elbow issues, he took some conservative measures and
came back and I think made five starts last year
including postseason, and then you know, the issue wasn't solved
obviously and had to have Tolby John this year. But
it was a way to delay the process which might
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not be bad for the Astros if you could, you know,
have Blanco out for a little while, get him back
a little bit, and delay Tommy John until.
Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
You know, say Javier gets back. You know, somebody gets back.
Speaker 10 (01:16:58):
So I think you know to me that that's what
the second opinion is is we know he has this issue.
Speaker 5 (01:17:03):
Yeah, No, I appreciate the call, Sheena.
Speaker 6 (01:17:05):
I mean, I just I think that it's for me
and you know, I wasn't aware of that. In terms
of the two dis points, No for sure, but I
mean it's just if if you already have a good
idea that that is going to be the course of
action you have to take, then what are we even
talking about at a certain point, Like you're just wasting time?
(01:17:26):
I mean it's it's a week or so or a
few days, that's I get all of that.
Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
I mean, you know, talked with Dana Brown.
Speaker 6 (01:17:31):
You say Hayden was Nesky hasn't even undergone his operation,
and once that happens, it's what a year to fourteen
months or however long it takes for him to be
able to get back. So probably about mid season next
year is when you can hope to have Hayden was
a Nesky back in the fold.
Speaker 5 (01:17:45):
All right. Good.
Speaker 7 (01:17:45):
The one thing that I completely disagree with Sheena on
is when she said they're waiting for Christian Javier to
come back.
Speaker 5 (01:17:53):
When is he coming back?
Speaker 7 (01:17:55):
There's no timeline right now, we know that he thrower
has thrown fifteen pitches.
Speaker 6 (01:17:59):
I think she was throwing it as a hypothetic, right,
But I'm just saying it's more of again believing and hoping,
like a hope that he comes back.
Speaker 7 (01:18:05):
But it's like when you talk to people around the
Garret Cole situation. Garrett Cole never needed Tommy John. What
he needed was he just needed to rest his elbow
and he needed to go about changing his delivery, and
that led to him missing the start of the season
last year. Eventually coming back, he wasn't great. We saw
what happened in Game five of the World Series, but
he still was able to be out there. You knew
that he didn't need Tommy John though. You knew that
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he didn't need a procedure. He just needed to work
on some mechanic issues so that way this would eventually
not become a problem.
Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
It didn't.
Speaker 7 (01:18:34):
He got into spring training, he went to the he
went to the doctor. They said, nope, we need to
shut you down for the rest of the year. You're
not pitching in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (01:18:43):
I don't think that's what this is.
Speaker 7 (01:18:44):
I think what this is is they are trying to
make sure that every scenario out there isn't possible outside
of Tommy John when they know that Tommy John needs
to happen. That's that's where I come to. I also
will say that one thing that I do will completely
agree with her on fans want instantaneous results. They always
have it. I argued this with college football fans, especially
(01:19:05):
with Ohio State. They're so tired of losing to Michigan.
But Ryan Day has ten losses in six years as
a head coach. What are you getting better at who's
coming in here and providing better results than what you
currently have? Because if you can show me that, I'm
guaranteed to get that guy in the building by all means,
go ahead and make that higher. But if I don't
(01:19:27):
know that, why am I going to throw away eleven wins?
Why am I going to throw away being this year?
Maybe a middle of the pack lineup when it comes
to hitting, but I have elite pitching and it's going
to carry me to an AL West title.
Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
I mean, we've seen countless examples of that in college football.
It means to your point, I mean, when Texas A
and M got rid of RC Slocome years ago, thinking oh,
this is going to immediately be better, you haven't sniffed
even remotely the amount of success that guy had on
the football field. Tennessee years ago with Philip Falmer.
Speaker 5 (01:19:53):
It took a decade for mac Brown to finally get
a good replacement. I mean that.
Speaker 6 (01:19:57):
I mean, it's just it's it is a good point
brought up by you, where it's it's flashy, it's fun.
You want to have the hot coach name that's going
to show up and be able to change the fortunes
of your program. But Kirby smart does not happen as
much as more of those other things that do happen.
Where it's just like, look, staying the course sometimes is
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not necessarily the worst thing. I mean, because is it
really that bad to go nine to three, ten and
two mostly every year and pop for a national title
chance every so often? I mean, teams don't win these
things six times in a row. It's more or less
you win them six times in your entire career.
Speaker 7 (01:20:33):
Is it bad to go eighty seven and seventy eight
but guarantee that you're in the playoff spot?
Speaker 16 (01:20:37):
Like that?
Speaker 5 (01:20:37):
Like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (01:20:38):
It's the exact same thing when it comes to hitting,
when it comes to get read, you're hitting, coach. You
can readjust in the offseason, you can look at the problems.
You can say we had this solution. It didn't change
when we went about talking in regular season. These mechanics
weren't able to be fixed. We're going to go in
a different pathway. That's what you have right now. But
right now is not the time to go ahead and say,
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well look at what Texas doing.
Speaker 5 (01:21:01):
Texas has got.
Speaker 7 (01:21:02):
Skunked yesterday in a sweep by the New York Yankees
in Yankee Stadium with that complain incredible, the sad, pathetic
excuse of our right field porch. You could even want
launch one ball out there. So congratulations, you got rid
of your hitting coach, you still have the exact same results.
Speaker 6 (01:21:19):
Well, I mean it's also too you gotta deal with
the guys that you've got available to you, and if
those guys aren't doing it well, then you can't really
blame anybody else. All right, As I mentioned Apple TV,
they're backing it with Major League Baseball. And we know
what we think about the Friday package. What if there
was even more? We'll talk about it here at start
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Later on tonight, I'll be with you on Astros on
deck six o'clock. From there at dyk In Park, Renel
Blanco on the il with inflammation in his right elbow,
gonna seek a second opinion, and the Thunder take down
the Timberwolves in Game two of the NBA Western Conference Finals,
take a two zero lead in that series. The Adam
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Clinton post victory video is out, and it might be
one of his best works yet of all of the
videos he puts out. I mean, like you know, I
love Cole the ones that he will put up after
the Astros beat the Rangers, and of course it's got
all the JFK and of course in Ranger fans, so
there's much more around here than JFK. And his response
(01:23:19):
is always the same, Well he left Houston alive.
Speaker 5 (01:23:23):
I've never actually read the commentation.
Speaker 6 (01:23:24):
Yeah, I've seen him have that response before, and I'm like,
that's a finishing move right there.
Speaker 5 (01:23:29):
I don't think you're gonna come back from that one.
Speaker 6 (01:23:31):
And then, of course, you know, people once they realize
their premise is done, is still try to like I
always love that, like whenever you know, And I haven't
done this in a while and I don't plan on
doing it that much, but whenever you get into a
Twitter feud or any type of social media feud, the
best for me in the biggest tell that you're not
(01:23:52):
convinced that your argument is that you don't truly believe
in your argument is the novel when you when you
write the novel to me, my response is, I'm not
wasting my time and you obviously don't believe what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (01:24:06):
If you have to truly.
Speaker 6 (01:24:07):
Convince yourself while writing that in a fit of rage
and being emotion filled.
Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
That you're right in this argument, I'm just gonna be
completely real.
Speaker 7 (01:24:16):
I'm not snazzy or snarky enough to come back with
one liners, so I just don't argue with them and
what they call back, I drop the I'm not reading.
Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
I'm not reading that.
Speaker 7 (01:24:25):
I'm sorry for your lost or best luck, and I
agree with you like just that little, that little gift
that comes out.
Speaker 5 (01:24:30):
That's all I do.
Speaker 7 (01:24:31):
That's the only thing I can do at this point,
or I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
Speaker 6 (01:24:35):
He usually easually, my sign off is cry louder. It
usually helps. Like that's that's usually my sign off when
it comes to that. And of course you deal with
the posing fan bases. But today's edition of the Adam
Clanton post victory video good morning to everyone but Seattle
hashtag tried ends up fans. What is easily the dumbest
home run dugout celebration in Major League Baseball? Hey, you
(01:24:56):
know what would be so sick walking around like Ariel's
father from a Little Mermaid because they when they get
in the dugout, they have the tray ye with the
home run.
Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
Yeah cute, it's funny.
Speaker 7 (01:25:07):
I thought you would go with something like Kurt Cobain
didn't also make it eye, I didn't hear the music.
Speaker 6 (01:25:11):
I mean, I've just seen the video and obviously it's
got all the footage all of that, but yeah, he
will have some sort of musical accompaniment with it.
Speaker 7 (01:25:18):
No, like how he said, well when he left Houston,
JFK was alive.
Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
Well, when he left Houston, Kirk Cobain was alive.
Speaker 6 (01:25:25):
I'm trying to remember even the last time he was here.
But I mean, sure, I though you didn't leave Seattle
that way. I just think you'd have to kind of
like wrap your brain like a little bit more. Whereas
like you know, a good one liner, Oh, you get
it immediately, like it's it's right there.
Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
That's where I'm at.
Speaker 6 (01:25:41):
Yeah, I mean I've gotten better at them. I used
to not be so good at them. But you know,
it's one of those you watch enough comedy you're able
to kind of pick up on a few things and
then say, oh, yeah, hey that's good.
Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
Mentally write that down. Mentally write that down.
Speaker 7 (01:25:53):
Usually I have to physically write that down just for
me and then looking at the paper.
Speaker 5 (01:25:57):
Comics app journals for a reason. Man.
Speaker 6 (01:25:59):
So you just work on your material a little bit,
do a couple of open mic nights, and maybe you'll
get there.
Speaker 7 (01:26:03):
Are you gonna come watch me? You're gonna Are you
gonna come with the tomatoes? Getting ready to pull them.
Speaker 5 (01:26:07):
Out my head.
Speaker 6 (01:26:07):
Oh no, I wouldn't do any of that, and I
wouldn't be any of the hecklers in the crowd, because
I mean, it's one of those that, like, you go
to a comedy show and somebody thinks they're being funny.
It's like, hey, JACKO, I came to see him or her.
I didn't come to see you. Shut your mouth, drink
your drink and watch the show. See for me whatever,
laugh in a few jokes like look, you will have
comedians who will absolutely bomb on stage, and the funny
(01:26:29):
thing is is their comedian friends will then, you know,
laugh even harder because they're like, oh man, they are
feeling it right now and it sucks.
Speaker 5 (01:26:36):
Oh it's great, Like does it so?
Speaker 9 (01:26:38):
Like?
Speaker 7 (01:26:38):
Our fantasy football punishment one year was open mic night,
and the loser had to do fifteen minutes of stand
up in the curently fifteen fifteen damn fifteen.
Speaker 5 (01:26:47):
We went, We.
Speaker 7 (01:26:48):
Got ripbroor and drunk, and we sat down at the
improm and then watched them go up on stage. They
were also not allowed to have a drop of alcohol,
and we were allowed to say whatever the hell we want.
Speaker 6 (01:26:57):
I would think that like five minutes would be enough
punish because like you think to yourself, oh, it's five minutes.
You know, I can get up there, i can say
a few things and then I'm going to be off
the stage.
Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
No, that's the longest damn five minutes you've ever had.
Speaker 6 (01:27:08):
Like, there's a reason why you go to some open
mic nights, and I've seen people who do comedy for
a living have like panic attacks before they're about to
go up there in the in the club owner is like, hey,
can you do like three minutes?
Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
All right, Hey just do three minutes. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:27:22):
No, to be fair, that is the one time in
life when people are like, oh, you've been talking forever,
and it's like, I've only been talking for two minutes.
That is one of those times you've been talking forever.
It literally has been thirty seconds. It feels that way.
You're you are one hundred percent right. The longest five
minutes of your life is doing stand up. We may
himed it fifteen fifteen. Geez, he never he paid it. Okay,
(01:27:42):
here's the reason why he never paid attention. Like he's
still he started lineups every single day. Those guys on
bays he like he trade away Jonathan Taylor for who
was it Rashad Penny and someone else like he wasn't
paying attention to his entire league and just got swindled.
So we're like, we're punishing you for if you're going
to pay the one hundred and fifty dollars to join
the league, pay attention or we won't make you do
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this kind of stuff.
Speaker 6 (01:28:06):
That's why I mean, when it comes to fantasy leagues
like I used to do fantasy baseball, I gave that
up a long time ago. It's just right now, it's
too much of a time commit. And now when it
comes to fancy football, like I would like get like
up to like three or four of them. I know,
fantasy football team talk here on the radio. It's great radio,
for sure, get past it. We'll be through it in
just a second. But I've got it now to where
(01:28:28):
it's just the work league here and then some friends
of mine that I still have from where I was
previously living.
Speaker 7 (01:28:35):
Two leagues both one hundred and fifty dollars to join.
That's much I want to spend there.
Speaker 6 (01:28:38):
You go, all right, well, if you are willing to
spend money, are you willing to spend money for an Apple?
TV plus TV package because according to Awflow Announcing, MLB
and Apple have had extensive talks over the ESPN package.
The league is also talked with Amazon, Netflix, Google. I
guess Google is the one who has decided, hey, we
(01:29:00):
want to get into this, but also NBC.
Speaker 5 (01:29:03):
It was actually John Arrand of PUCK. I didn't know that.
Speaker 6 (01:29:06):
Such a thing existed, but I know who he is.
He's a sports media column this guy that's out there
kind of like Andrew marshawn website. Yeah, sure, probably, but
that Rob Manfred has had talks with the previous three
and Apple about taking over the ESPN rights once they
get out of their media rights deal, which of course
(01:29:28):
that'd be Sunday Night Baseball. That would also, I'm assuming
be the first round of the playoffs because talked about
it yesterday with Gordy. The divisional round. All through the
World Series is the first two are Fox and Turner,
but then after that just becomes Fox at the end.
I hate it if it's going to be on Apple TV.
I do because if I think that there is value
(01:29:49):
on still having the games to where you're not paying
a premium package, and you know that those Sunday night
games oftentimes are among the best teams or the highest
market rated teams, which is why you see the revenue,
which is why you see the rating skyrocket. So you're
already telling me, as say an Astros fan that is
going to see a matchup over the weekend against the Dodgers,
(01:30:10):
that one game is going to be on Apple TV
Friday night.
Speaker 5 (01:30:13):
Roku's getting more involved.
Speaker 7 (01:30:15):
Let's say they move to a Saturday night and then
you get Sunday Night Baseball, which is now a part
of Apple TV. I have to have two different subscriptions
to watch the best series of the weekend. Who wins
in that one? Because of when you're trying to grow
a fan base, and I talk about this for college
football as it constantly is changing right now, and they're
saying that pay per view is eventually going to come
to the sport, when you're trying to grow a fan
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base and say that we still care about the product,
we still care about the fans, we still care about
building a culture and a legacy for the sport. And
then you say, well, here's what we're going to do.
We care enough as long as you're willing to slap on,
you know, an extra fifteen ninety nine per week. That
way you can go ahead and watch your team. You're
saying that you don't really care NBC would at least
(01:30:58):
have the game on NBC.
Speaker 6 (01:31:00):
See, And that's the thing is I mean, you have
to also remember that not everybody is technologically inclined. Like
I mean, there's a reason that I've joked with you
in Tripoli about getting calls from people you know, hey,
what channel is that going to be on? It's gonna
be on YouTube. Well I know that, but it's just like, Okay,
I just answered your question. Like you know, you get frustrated,
but you also you have a little bit of empathy
(01:31:22):
because like obviously the person you know that they're they're
not as technologically inclined as US three and a.
Speaker 5 (01:31:28):
Lot of people are Channel two. There we go.
Speaker 6 (01:31:31):
But yeah, and that's just it, I mean of being
able to at least have that Like with the NFL,
you know that if it's an Amazon game, it's Netflix, whatever,
if the Texans are involved, well then somebody here is
going to have it. So like you know that way,
you'll know that. But it's also though too, I mean
for the same people that I was just saying, like, hey,
you know, be a little kind to them whenever they
ask those questions. It's also, you know, whenever we get
(01:31:53):
calls about hey, what time is the game tonight? What
what is the channel? My response is, dude, d learned
how to text and my dad learned how to use emoji's.
Speaker 5 (01:32:02):
I have faith in you.
Speaker 6 (01:32:03):
That thing that you have in your hand that you're
calling me on right now, it's got a computer, lion,
It's got a thing called Google.
Speaker 5 (01:32:08):
You can find it there.
Speaker 7 (01:32:09):
The problem is, though you're gonna see the random people say,
I don't want to pay for Apple TV. It's a scam,
and it's not a scam, but it also kind of
is a scam because of we're gonna have shows on there.
Speaker 5 (01:32:18):
They have some good shows.
Speaker 7 (01:32:19):
But if you're really saying that, I'm one of the
clientele for baseball, seventy five year old that wants to
enjoy the sport that I grew up loving, and I
gotta pay fifteen ninety nine just to be able to
watch one game a week like that's that's where I
have the problem with you.
Speaker 5 (01:32:31):
Friends man telling you you want to peacock.
Speaker 7 (01:32:34):
That's fine, because of at least with Peacock, a go
on NBC first, then you can watch the replay.
Speaker 6 (01:32:38):
And plus, you know, you can watch all the Bravo shows.
I'm not ashamed to admit it. We're a Bravo house,
are you really?
Speaker 5 (01:32:43):
Damn right?
Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
We are?
Speaker 7 (01:32:44):
See Kersen's watching Secret Lives and Mormon Wives right now,
and now I'm fully getting invested.
Speaker 5 (01:32:48):
I haven't gotten into that one.
Speaker 6 (01:32:49):
I mean, we were, you know, the the Ogs, which
the you know what kind of got started for Bravo
was OC and still still watch that.
Speaker 5 (01:32:56):
That was that was on Bravo, not the not the
OC talking about the household Lives.
Speaker 6 (01:33:01):
Yeah, yeah, and then from there, you know, Beverly Hills
everybody else kind of came in.
Speaker 5 (01:33:05):
So you've got that.
Speaker 6 (01:33:06):
But I mean it's just it's also too from Are
you going to necessarily tell me that the overall product
of Apple TV is going to get better? Because there's
a reason why the option is there for Hey, do
you want to listen to your radio broadcast? And immediately
I say yes, because I don't care you know whoever
is on the broadcast call of you know whatever kid
(01:33:29):
from Syracuse you got to do the game with, you know,
I don't know whoever is on MLB Network that that
they throw out there for it, and it's just like,
these are two nondescript people that for the most part,
if I'm watching it on TV, I'm seeing the action
of what's happening. But good broadcasters do enhance the product itself,
(01:33:50):
and as it is right now, you don't have that.
Speaker 5 (01:33:52):
We got Tom have A Ford and Jimmy Rollins. No,
I have Robert Ford and c. Sparks. That's why I
listened to see you just told me two names.
Speaker 6 (01:33:59):
Jimmy obviously I know, but like you know, I would
be interested enough to hear what he has to say.
But the other guy, you could put him in a
lineup with ten other people, I'd have no idea who.
Speaker 7 (01:34:08):
Tom Havard and Chris Burke. All right, cool, great, I
got Robert Fer and se Sparks right here on.
Speaker 6 (01:34:13):
We love Burkey. Look, we didn't get to the opportunity.
And one of our listeners yesterday pointed out a guy
that I think is underrated when it comes to baseball
and basketball, Brian Anderson.
Speaker 5 (01:34:24):
Like you put Brian Anderson on there.
Speaker 6 (01:34:26):
Okay, I mean again, I'm not watching it for Brian Anderson,
but he absolutely makes the product better for sure. No,
I'm there with you. Here's one that I'll throw out,
and it's one that me and you, I think would
agree on.
Speaker 5 (01:34:38):
Tom Hart and Ben McDonald.
Speaker 6 (01:34:40):
I watch that because because for people to watch for
people that don't know Tom Hart, Like, one of my
favorite booths in all of sports is the one that
he has with Jordan Rodgers and Cole ki Block for
doing SEC games.
Speaker 5 (01:34:53):
They have so much fun. They call a hell of
a game.
Speaker 6 (01:34:56):
And I mean again, I'm not watching necessarily for them,
but it makes it even better, like like it's a
it's a fun watch and listen at the same time.
Speaker 7 (01:35:04):
See, I'm not a Cole Cublic sideline guy, but I
am a lot. I am full love, but I'm full
Jordan Rogers, Tom hartbooth like, I think that they are
for SEC network the best.
Speaker 5 (01:35:13):
Booths and game seeing.
Speaker 6 (01:35:14):
Tom's a friend too, So when I ran into him
last time at a Georgia game up in the press box,
I go, hey, where's Cole. He goes, Cole's an outside dog.
We we we keep him outside.
Speaker 5 (01:35:24):
Cole's a barner. I don't want to talk to him
right now. I love Court. Yeah, No, he's a barner.
I'll tell you what too.
Speaker 6 (01:35:29):
If you're a football fan, you love film breakdowns, all
of those things, Prime Coldinger, Cole Cole cublic man, he
he can deliver it. So anyway, that's something on the
MLB rights talks for Sunday Night Baseball everything else, And
uh see that Biscuit wants to get in on that.
So we can continue the conversation on this, I mean,
(01:35:50):
you know, just to kind of wrap it up on
it as well with NBC. I mean, I do know
that you're going to run into where all right, Well
if you still got Sunday Night Baseball, you got you know,
Sunday Night Football. Sure that's not being moved, like that's
staying right.
Speaker 5 (01:36:03):
Where it is.
Speaker 7 (01:36:04):
You have Peacock congratulations. One game out of the what
would it be, fifty two is on Peacock.
Speaker 6 (01:36:09):
Plus you get to watch below deck, so you get
that going for you. All right, So, like I said,
you want to get in on the phone lines this
Astros conversation all fair game some one three two one
two five seven ninety again seven one three two one
two five seven ninety Also in this hour, do you
want to get into the little bit of Texans news
that came out to yesterday.
Speaker 5 (01:36:27):
What does that mean for them going forward? We will
discuss here.
Speaker 6 (01:36:30):
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Speaker 1 (01:36:37):
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Speaker 7 (01:36:41):
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Biscuit on was the way in on the conversation. We
were just having biscuit. Good morning, by the way to
where you been?
Speaker 17 (01:37:14):
Man?
Speaker 5 (01:37:14):
I mean, listen to the.
Speaker 6 (01:37:15):
Matt Thomas Show and I hear him calling for you,
and I'm like, what the hell, man, he's he's a turncoat.
Speaker 17 (01:37:20):
He's leaving us. No, man, it's the heat man is
hating me getting up a little late. Man.
Speaker 8 (01:37:27):
You know, I'm out here with the Brown Army Man.
Speaker 17 (01:37:29):
So the heat is getting to have some late mornings.
So I have been missing out on you guys.
Speaker 5 (01:37:35):
I'll get that.
Speaker 10 (01:37:36):
Man.
Speaker 6 (01:37:37):
Well, it's just it wasn't frustration. It's more of a
good to hear from you. So absence makes the heart
grow fonder. It's great to hear from you again, Buddy.
Speaker 8 (01:37:47):
Is my brother? Hey man, listen.
Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
And I may be.
Speaker 17 (01:37:50):
In the minority, and you know, I'm that old guy whatever,
But if I got to go through three or four
different things to find where you what channel you on?
You know what time you on? I think that's that's
not a good thing, you know what I mean. I'm
you know, and I'm a sports guy. I don't mind
paying the fifteen ninety nine or whatever. Uh uh you know,
(01:38:11):
I'm you know, I got all the sports packages or whatever.
But if I gotta flip through my my thing and okay,
well baseball isn't on this channel?
Speaker 8 (01:38:20):
What what? What channel?
Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
You know?
Speaker 8 (01:38:22):
I mean, I already know what.
Speaker 17 (01:38:23):
NBA gonna be on, t N, T or ESBN. Uh
football is you know Fox, CBS or you know NBC,
you know ESPN on Monday? I mean I know where
you know where to go? If I gotta figure out
where to go, I think that's the problem and I
and especially in the playoffs with baseball, you you have
to flip around and look at you gotta try to
(01:38:45):
figure out where they're playing.
Speaker 18 (01:38:47):
And I don't.
Speaker 8 (01:38:47):
I don't understand you know that to.
Speaker 17 (01:38:48):
Me, and I may be in the minority, but to me,
you know, sometimes people just you know whatever and just
go on to something else. I think baseball needs to
get that figured out. They need some consistency. And you know,
if you get some consistency, then I can you know,
I can support you. But if if you're all over
the place, you know, get three different you know channels
(01:39:09):
and this and that, Nah, you're gonna miss me now.
Speaker 6 (01:39:14):
I definitely hear you on that. Appreciate the call, Biscuit.
Don't be a stranger. You know where we are every
single day six ten. Awesome man, stay safe out there today.
Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
Yes, their awesome.
Speaker 5 (01:39:24):
See buddy, have a good weekend.
Speaker 7 (01:39:25):
Biscuit brings up to the exact point that I was
trying to make. You're trying to grow the sport. You're
trying to make sure that the fans are cared about.
This is the way to lose fans because they don't
want to pay attention.
Speaker 6 (01:39:35):
Well, the funny thing is Major League Baseball seems to
grasp this when they're probably the league of the major
three that should grasp it the least, because the NFL
could very easily say all right, hey, we'll have it
wherever you're going to watch, you're going to pay for it,
We know that you are, and they decide not to.
They make it the most accessible of any of them.
I mean the Biscuit's point right there of you know,
(01:39:58):
you know that your local team is going to be
on Fox or CBS if they're playing on Sunday afternoon,
and if they're not, then you know they're going to
be on NBC that night or on you know, ESPN
ABC for Monday night football. Same deal with the Amazon Prime.
I mean that's kind of like the dabbling that they've
done with it a little bit, and then it's okay,
well my team is not in the market, Well then fine,
(01:40:18):
by the buy the TV package and you can watch
it that way. You're paying a little bit of extra money,
but that's all good. Major League Baseball, I think, kind
of looks at it with the fans of just saying hey,
you can find us, Well no I can't find you. Okay,
Well then come see us play in person. Well you're
out of town. Well, I don't know what else to
tell you. That's pretty much what they tell their fans.
Speaker 5 (01:40:37):
You know it's bad.
Speaker 7 (01:40:37):
And I've gone two hours and twenty seven minutes without
making a hockey reference. But even in the NHL, TNT, ESPN,
that's where you're gonna get the games. And if they're
not there, they're on ESPN Plus. So you got to
pay the pianer and package, but that's where they are.
Baseball it's a one night's on Roku, one night's on Amazon,
one night's on local stations, one night's on ESPN, and
(01:40:58):
then you have the blackout restriction, which is another problem.
So like if you're going to make sure that we
have these games, go to NBC or Peacock, get rid
of the blackout restrictions.
Speaker 5 (01:41:07):
Then whenever MLB doesn't well, I mean in the NHL.
Speaker 6 (01:41:10):
Is even more than what I was just talking about
with baseball, because baseball is such a sport because of
how long it is and how many chances there are,
there's no urgency to watch it. Like football, there's urgency
to watch it because there's only a handful that you're
able to see during a finite amount of time, because
then after that there's the vast wasteland that is the
off season of just being able to talk about the
(01:41:30):
dumbest things possible when it comes to a sport that
is playing the shortest amount of time of any of
the others that we have.
Speaker 5 (01:41:37):
Oh, I enjoyed the dumb stuff in the off season.
I mean, sure, for your job, I get it.
Speaker 6 (01:41:41):
But then it's like also though too, It's like, all right,
finally let's get here, and then let's get training camp.
Tweets of oh, so and so just shook Derek Stingley Junior.
They're both wearing shorts. Trust me, Once they put on pads,
then maybe I'm willing to listen to you. But until then,
save the tweet.
Speaker 7 (01:41:56):
Do you mean that undrafted free agent that was able
to win his one on one rode.
Speaker 5 (01:41:59):
Across he is on his way to the No, they're not.
Speaker 6 (01:42:04):
If they were, they would have been drafted either in
Day one or day two. That's how that always goes.
And maybe somebody slips through the cracks every once in
a while, but no, for the most part, not But no,
I mean that's these are the things we've been talking
about with baseball for the longest time of exactly what
you just mentioned in the blackout restrictions. It's also which
I will give them credit. I do think that they
(01:42:25):
are doing a better job now of highlighting the stars
of the game. Sure, I mean there's almost to a
point now where there's fatigue of shohe Otani and Aaron Judge.
And look, even though people on the outside might try
to tell you that Jose Altuve is not a league favorite,
I mean, go ahead and look at the jersey sales
around Major League Baseball. Go ahead and look at the
All Star voting by both the fans and the players.
Speaker 5 (01:42:48):
Jose Altuve is a star in this game. You told
me this last week.
Speaker 7 (01:42:51):
It's better to have for somebody to have a negative
opinion on you than no opinion at all. So whether
or they boot him, he still is getting that star
ambiance when he goes to other ballparks for negative reasons,
but it still is happening.
Speaker 6 (01:43:03):
No, Reggie Jackson said it best they don't boo nobody's
and Jose l Twov I think has proven throughout his
career he is definitely not a nobody. Martin s You
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Speaker 6 (01:44:44):
Initially when this all came out, it was thought, you know,
centering around their stadium and you know, trying to renovate
it and it's something that needs to be up to date.
Which immediately with the hiring of Mike Towman, you're thinking
to yourself, Oh, this guy's not here just to do
a renovation.
Speaker 5 (01:44:59):
That guy here to find you a new home. That's
why he's here.
Speaker 6 (01:45:03):
And Well, he built the Star in Frisco, Danny Well,
I mean he built the Star in Frisco. I think
he was part of the Raiders stadium too, So he's
part of that Legends group, which that's what they do,
like they they're hired on to be able to, you know,
bring in the people to design your stadium, sell your suites,
do all those different types of things saw in Atlanta
with the Falcons. But it's also too, I mean to
(01:45:25):
the point that you just brought up about the Star,
I mean it's concepts like that are what teams now
want because the Braves were kind of the ones that
got it started with their ballpark and what's outside of it,
I mean, it is a city outside of a ballpark,
basically restaurants, sharps, shops, bars, hotels, even in apartments right there,
(01:45:45):
all of those things that you can have that's pretty
self sustaining, and it's also something that is able to
generate revenue for you all throughout the year. Where you've
started to get teams that when they were building stadiums,
like the Rangers built theirs shortly thereafter and they said,
oh we can't just have a ballpark, you know, that's
in the shadows of AT and T Stadium. We have
to have an attraction in addition to the ballpark. And
(01:46:07):
they built that there Jim Crane. It's been teased for
the longest time. They're going to do the same thing
with where the bus and where Luckies used to be
right there across from the ballpark. Nothing's necessarily happened with
that yet, but still, I mean, it's something that they
have in the plans to possibly be able to do.
And to your point with the Star now, the Texans
want to be able to do that of have their
(01:46:28):
own team headquarters. I mean, you heard Hannah McNair talk
about we can't even necessarily use our building year round
because then you've got the Rodeo, you've got Disney on ice,
whoever else it might be that is also going to
be involved here. So it's ours, but it's not fully ours.
Because that's the thing too, is that when you get
into situations like this, billionaires, you know, they have egos
(01:46:51):
just like any of us. I mean, any of us
that do something that you feel somewhat of pride in,
you're going to have an ego about how you do it,
otherwise you're not doing it well.
Speaker 7 (01:46:59):
Why wouldn't you want to have an ego about it
is the big thing? Why wouldn't you want to act
like that what you own is the greatest thing, and
everybody should want to appreciate it the way that I appreciate.
Speaker 6 (01:47:09):
And that's where you get two stadiums being built, because
then you get these people. They go see something else
and they're like, Oh, that's awesome. You get to keep
all the revenue from this. I want that too, And
you know what, I don't even just want it. I
want to make mine better than yours, and then somebody
will make theirs better than yours.
Speaker 5 (01:47:25):
All of those different things.
Speaker 6 (01:47:26):
It's all fine and good, but Harris County leaders are
working with Texan's on trying to keep a potential new
headquarters within Harris County lines. Leslie Brionis, who's one of
the county commissioners, telling the Chronicle, I love sports, and
I believe it brings the community together. Obviously, it's a
huge economic impact, and I'm really energized by the new president,
(01:47:47):
Mike Towman, so I'm optimistic and I really do hope
that they choose the our site in the county, which
initially in the story.
Speaker 5 (01:47:58):
And that was the thing.
Speaker 6 (01:47:58):
I was texting with Matt Thomas about this last night
because he had mentioned around like Holly Hall, like North Maine,
like kind of around there.
Speaker 5 (01:48:05):
I guess was something that was.
Speaker 6 (01:48:07):
Thrown out, But then I looked in this story and
it wasn't there. So my guess is that, like, hey,
you know, that's not the site or whatever it might be.
Speaker 5 (01:48:15):
I don't know, but what I know that some people are.
Speaker 6 (01:48:20):
Going to think about this is okay, you can have that,
But then what happens when it's not football season, or
when it's not training camp, or you know, any of
those things that you would think in your mind is
going to bring you there. But the teams own it,
the teams run it, the teams have the revenue. So,
for example, what I talked about when I was in
Atlanta are studios where I worked at were right there
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in the battery, that's what they call the area outside
Truest Park. They would have fun runs, they would have
Christmas tree lightings, and they would have any other type
of event, beer festivals, whatever, it might be, something to
keep you saying, hey, this place is pretty cool. And oh,
by the way too, Like you have places in there
that you go to and you're like, man, this place
is awesome. Like they have a spot there, it's a
(01:49:03):
sports bar that seriously looks like a Vegas sports book.
So you go there, and if it's football season, you're like, well,
look at the size of this TV. Damn Ry, don't
want to come here, drink some beers and eat some
wings and see the game here. I'm not going to
find a screen like this anywhere else.
Speaker 7 (01:49:18):
So the thing about the Star is is that everything
that's in the Star has some property or intellect owned
by Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. The reason they
do that is because if they want to bring in
a revenue. If you're the Texans and you're looking at
this from a financial standpoint, number one, you know the
first rule in business, you gotta spend money to make money.
Speaker 5 (01:49:37):
So if you're willing to invest millions and.
Speaker 7 (01:49:40):
Dollars, I'm building a sports bar, I'm building restaurants, I'm
building a team shop. On building what you have, like
what would be a rally house, but it's only Texans
gear and maybe it's vintage Texans gear and all that
and then you throw in how smart business people do
when the holidays are around and when we have the
off period and we need to be able to make
up for time.
Speaker 5 (01:49:58):
We have events here.
Speaker 7 (01:50:00):
We have something along the lines of an Easter celebration,
we have something along the lines of a Fourth of
July Memorial Day parade, a fun run. As you said,
there's ways to go about it to where you're still
profiting in the off season. And the best part is
a lot of the players, especially for the Texans, live
in Houston in the off season.
Speaker 5 (01:50:18):
So what do you do.
Speaker 7 (01:50:19):
You sell it with the marketing proposition of come to
the fun run and meet Nico Collins, come to this
Memorial Day event parade that we have headlined by our
Master of Grand Champions, Jalen Petrie. And then people who
are infatuated, are fully invested in the Texans that want
to see as much as possible, They will go to
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these events simply for the opportunity to see this person
up close.
Speaker 6 (01:50:45):
And it's also though, I mean, you have to have
the attraction, but not only that accessibility to be able
to get there right And that's where I would think
if I'm Mike Toeman or in this case i'm one
of the McNair's, my charge to him would be, have
we done a feasibility study of our season ticket base,
like where's our season ticket base?
Speaker 5 (01:51:04):
Where are they living? Like what part of town are
they in?
Speaker 6 (01:51:07):
And if you see most of the money is right there,
go to them right And even if it's not in
Harris County, you're doing yourself a disservice. And it's also
too you have to have your players in mind because
a lot of the players live right there, the bel
Air Wesu area, Paarland on the south southwest side of town.
That's that's where they're living. So it's also you know,
being able to attract players of hey, look look at
(01:51:28):
these neighborhoods around here, look at all of the other things.
And oh, by the way, where you're gonna go to
work every single day mile or two from your house.
So it's not necessarily something that you're gonna have to
you know, completely crane your neck for and be able
to you know, have to make you know, a forty
five minute drive there, forty five minute drive back home
every single day unless you want to.
Speaker 7 (01:51:45):
Well, it's like there's an episode of south Park it
says I own this little piece in Aspen. It's the
same thing that when it comes to this with the Texans.
I own this little piece in I don't know, the
Woodlands or in Katie or wherever our major priority ticket
season ticket holders are. We own that property. We're going
to make this property a Texans community. And then what
we could also do is we could throw in some
other sporting events when the Astros are doing well, when
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the Rockets are in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (01:52:09):
Make it to where this is.
Speaker 7 (01:52:10):
A Houston based community, but it's still centered around the Texans.
Speaker 6 (01:52:13):
Well, I mean it's you know of you know, maybe
even focusing on the NRG Park area right there. That's
all fine and good, but it's like also too at
the same time, why are you necessarily trying to go
through all this effort when you're pretty much going to
get the same thing that you already have exactly?
Speaker 7 (01:52:29):
And to me, I just feel like that when you
are looking at other organizations and how they've gone about,
especially in the last decade or so, building communities for
their football teams, building legacies, building building ambient ambiances that
lead towards you having a culture and a dialect that
(01:52:50):
goes into game days.
Speaker 5 (01:52:51):
I view that as a massive win.
Speaker 7 (01:52:53):
I think that Jim Crane is foolish not to consider
doing what we saw with Lucky's and building like a
ballpark theme going into the ball game, because it just
it adds value and it adds culture. I love going
to Cleveland because of rousside of Progressive Field. They have
a great vicinity. Wriggleyville is great. I don't like the Cubs,
but I love Wrigglyville because if it's more than just
going to a game, it's an event.
Speaker 5 (01:53:12):
Well it's also too.
Speaker 6 (01:53:13):
I mean, the Texans I think are smart in trying
to capitalize on their most recent run of success, because
I mean that hasn't always been the case. Notice they
didn't try to do this around twenty twenty or twenty
twenty one, when it was the city completely out on them.
I mean, you're gonna have your diehards, that's fine, But
for the most part, Bill O'Brien and everybody there, Jackie
easter Beat, they ran people off like where it was
(01:53:34):
just like you guys just aren't serious, Like why do
I want to pay attention to this? But then you
bring Demko Ryance back in, you go get CJ. Stroud,
you get Willy Anderson Junior, and all of a sudden
you look at it and you say, huh, you guys
are actually competent. Now, okay, cool, Maybe I will put
a little bit more money into your product, Field of Dreams.
If you build it, they will come build it the
right way, They'll come in droves. Well, that's why it's
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also incumbent on the Texans to continue these good decisions
and those good decisions paying off on the field. So,
Charles c you want to get in on this, Martin,
I see also to one of the other things we've
talked about. We'll get you guys involved here in the conversation.
Don't forget to Aircrats of Foul Territory TV. Former astro
going to join us here in the nine o'clock hour
(01:54:16):
as we continue on the Seawan Salisbury Show Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
More, Sean Salisbury, get in, strap In and write in.
Speaker 6 (01:54:29):
Got into a couple of different topics that I know
some of you want to weigh in on, Martin and
Charles Martin will get us started down in Angleton.
Speaker 5 (01:54:35):
What's going on?
Speaker 19 (01:54:37):
Hey, I always wanted to I want the NHL in
Houston is so bad. I've been one of it since
I was a little kid, and I was wondering, I
don't know if what if it was to come to Houston,
would they have their own they would share the Toronota
Center with the Rockets or what they or with the
(01:54:58):
NHL team want to build their own arena, do y'all know?
Speaker 7 (01:55:03):
Well, it's based off of who owns the team is
the big question mark, because if it's Tillman, then it's
a little bit different because again, you can just use
Toyota Center, but if somebody else is using it, then
you got to pay for the rental fees. Maybe you
want to build your own complex because it's your complex.
Speaker 19 (01:55:19):
Well, I hope the NHL comes to Houston. But my
other thing is the new president of the Texans specializes
in building new stadiums. What I understand, But I thought
the president of the Texans was supposed to be like
(01:55:39):
the football operations on the field person dealing with the
football operations on the field. Only it would seem like,
why didn't they just hire this person as an outside consultant.
Speaker 6 (01:55:53):
Well, because the team president handles the business day to
day operations.
Speaker 5 (01:55:58):
The other stuff that you're mentioning it's Nick Cassario.
Speaker 19 (01:56:02):
Okay, So this guy, this new president, is on the
business operations side, yes, not football operation. Yes, yes, that
explains everything perfectly. Thank y'all.
Speaker 5 (01:56:14):
All right, thanks Martin, appreciate it, buddy. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:56:16):
I mean, you know Greg, Greg Grissom, that was before him,
Jamie Roots before him. I mean, you know, same deal here.
I mean, as soon as I saw what this guy's
chops were, and you know, there was the conversation about
renovating in RG Stadium. As soon as I saw who
it was, I said, oh, this isn't going to be
about renovating in RG Stadium. This is about, hey, you
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built those other places, help us build one.
Speaker 5 (01:56:39):
Of our owns.
Speaker 7 (01:56:39):
That's one hundred percent while he was hired. Now, maybe
they keep in RG Stadium for Sundays, but they're going
to have their own complex. It's going to be the
Houston Texans Complex, just like the Star, Just like he
got out in Flowery Branch, just he goed out in
Las Vegas.
Speaker 5 (01:56:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:56:51):
So, I mean, things are not necessarily done, and in
this case, they're not done. When you're dealing with this
amount of money by coincidence, it's all right, go ahead
and follow the money if you will on that, and
that's what leads us to believe that sections are going
to try to find their own place one way or another.
Charles inmost city wants the way in Charles, good morning, what's.
Speaker 9 (01:57:11):
Up, guys.
Speaker 18 (01:57:11):
I just wanted to first say, let's talk about the
elephant in the room. Why do we have the astrodome
still sitting there? Loved astrodome, got opportunity to play in
at all that, but tear the dome down and you
could build whatever you want right there and being out
here in most city for being people fickle, they might
like it for a little while. Let's say the team
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takes a dip, whatever, you're going to take your money
and invest in moving facility away from just been there,
the rodeo, all that generates revenue. Take your money that
you're getting from the fans whatever for the football team.
But to move somewhere completely different. When you have an
astrodom there that you could just tear down, be able
to build whatever you want on that site and maybe
(01:57:54):
make an agreement that you own whatever was there with
the astrodom, because from my understanding, they don't own the stadium.
We have put in tax dollars, or at least they
did in Houston to create the stadium.
Speaker 5 (01:58:05):
Is that correct, Yeah, they least in the county, correct.
Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 18 (01:58:09):
So you're making more money in my opinion, by leasing,
and you're not obligated any other times of the season
because let's say God forbid, the team sucks or whatever
and people aren't coming to this fancy thing. Dallas is
living off the Cowboys winning the Super Bowl one hundred
years ago. That's why the people want to come. And
they're also one of the highest revenue generating teams in
(01:58:30):
sports paraphernalia whatever. Because the Cowboys fans delusional, We're fickle.
So if you turn around and build this new place
and ten years from now we're having that downturn that
sometimes Houston teams do. Now you're stuck with this place
that you own, and you can't walk away in the
off season and hope that you're going to make money. Well,
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now you just get you get the best of both
wor ros. You get to take the money with the
leaf and you don't have to own or worry about
it in the off season. I hear what you're saying.
We got some great fans, but we can't be fickle,
and you've built this new whatever because somebody else is
doing it. I would think if you're a billionaire or
a trillionaire or whatever they are, you would be smarter
with your money build something on the site you're on
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because you have the land to do it around the area.
Just like guys talk about Holly Hall and the Astrodom
is sitting there doing absolutely nothing. When is the last
time Astrodom generated any revenue?
Speaker 6 (01:59:24):
Now, that's for sure. Appreciate the call, Charles. I mean
a couple of things there. It's also when you do
the ask and the Texans are doing it. Like I
just thought about the Astros when they finally asked the
voters of Harris County to approve what would now become
dyke In Park.
Speaker 5 (01:59:41):
They didn't win.
Speaker 6 (01:59:42):
Oh the team's getting good, Oh the team's making the playoffs.
This looks like if we do this right, eventually we
could win a world Series around here. Well, it took
a little bit longer to get there, but still you
had enough interest of people saying, well, we've already lost
the Oilers, let's not lose these guys too, and let's
also be able to to enjoy something nice and new
(02:00:02):
But the other part is, you know, with with what
he was saying is with the fans, that's one hundred
percent true, And we can maybe talk about this a
little bit more after Eric Kratz here in just a
few minutes. But it's if the team is not doing well,
and the team doesn't necessarily seem like they have any
emphasis to do well, then you shouldn't be involved in
it either. Like you know, that's one of those Oh,
(02:00:23):
I've been a fan since day one. Oh, so you're
spending tons of money to go watch a crap product
that you don't think is gonna get better anytime soon.
You're an idiot.
Speaker 7 (02:00:30):
Yeah, how many times have we heard that the astrodom
needs to be torn down? Trillion quadrillion, a billion billion, like.
Speaker 5 (02:00:37):
Whatever it is. How many more times am I gonna catch?
Speaker 6 (02:00:39):
It's just at this point with me, like I'm just
like happening, Well, it just make a decision at a
certain point, Like you've got a concept, fine, go with it.
Speaker 5 (02:00:46):
I don't care at this point.
Speaker 6 (02:00:47):
Or maybe the concept is, hey, yeah, guess what, we're
gonna put some TNT in there.
Speaker 5 (02:00:51):
We're gonna level this thing.
Speaker 20 (02:00:52):
Fine, Hey, guys, one of our calls been called in.
He adds, do you guys know where the training facilities are, like,
are they are still like where they play it or
yeah you're talking.
Speaker 7 (02:01:02):
About around the league or just for the Texans, for
the Texans. Yeahs are inside the building.
Speaker 6 (02:01:06):
Yeah, I was gonna say locker room, everything, weight room.
It's inside the building. Practice fields across the way. Anyway,
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Got Astros baseball tonight after a nine to win last
night over the Mariners to start off this four game
series renewe Blanco though on the il with inflammation in
his right elbow, and I'm going to seek a second
opinion on that. And the Timberwolves now down two to
(02:02:55):
oh to the Thunder in the NBA Western Conference Finals,
but supposed to be joined here any minute by Eric Kratz.
But do want to kind of pick up on what
we've talked about all throughout the show today with the
Astros last night, I mean, hitting wise, it was everything
that you could hope to see out of this team,
and maybe even more because you get the two runs
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there in the third inning, then you get the three
spot there in the fourth. Four straight innings of runs
being scored by the Astros, and three of those with
crooked numbers in those innings. So yesterday me and Gordy,
you know he threw out the where are the crooked numbers?
Speaker 5 (02:03:33):
Like where?
Speaker 2 (02:03:33):
Where?
Speaker 6 (02:03:34):
Where is that production from this team of being able
to put up some serious damage And we hadn't seen
that as much in recent games, but last night it
was a nice chance to be able to break out.
Speaker 7 (02:03:43):
It was for a better case of the word minus
e sec credit is not going getting a hit Probably
the most ideal game that you want to see from
the Astros. You take advantage of a great pitcher coming
off of an il stamp where he has been on
the mountain two months, and you make him pay. You
have great pitching from your starter, and you get to
see a vintage maybe not fully complete, but I would
(02:04:06):
say about seventy five to seventy six point two percent
way fully through Lance colleg shooting your back on the
mount eight case four to third. Yeah, did he walk
through batters, Yes, it's part of the deal. Did he
give up two runs early on including the homer, Yes,
it's part of the deal. But you also watch as
the bats star to waken up, and you shy everybody
deliver on their end of the bargain, whether it be
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a single by Christian Walker, whether it be an RBI double,
a triple by by Jeremy Pania, two home runs from
Josel tu May now getting comfortable in the three hole.
It's one of those things where it doesn't deteriorate from
yes you have problems. Yes there are some issues that
you're going to have to compromise over time, but it's
a way for you to take a giant exhale in
a series that many people are kind of targeting as
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not a must win but certainly a This is a
way for us to get back on track and feel
like the optimism is so growing through.
Speaker 5 (02:04:56):
It's a way to set the tone going into the weekend.
Speaker 6 (02:04:58):
Well, I mean, at the very least this weekend, you
can't get out of here without at least one more
win in this series. You get a split, you're like,
all right, it's not great that we didn't get ground
on these guys, but we didn't lose it either.
Speaker 5 (02:05:10):
Let's, you know, try this again when we face them again.
Speaker 7 (02:05:12):
But it's a lot easier to sell the idea of
still being two games or even a game above five
hundred and being three games below going into your series
against the Athletics.
Speaker 6 (02:05:20):
Well, I mean, it's it's that and it's just also too.
I mean, you wonder if at that point are you
starting to kind of see the struggles that you had
at the beginning of last season, or are you going
through them right now, because this is when if you
go them through them right now, then that does not
bode well for you going forward. You go through them
at the beginning of the season, it's just a all right, fine,
you know, it's just as you know, something that you
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have to kind of weather through and try to hope
that you get through it without minimal damage at that point.
Speaker 7 (02:05:46):
See, I'm one of those people that would rather start
off the year looking like the Colorado Rockies than starting
off the year looking like the San Diego Padres.
Speaker 5 (02:05:53):
Now you know, he never he never go full Rockies.
Speaker 7 (02:05:55):
But what I'm saying is is that I'd much rather
be sitting five game below five hundred middle of May
then sitting at five hundred in the middle of July
knowing that I have to start spending money, giving away
prospects and swinging big if I want to get back
in this race. This is where the Astras are right now.
They're slightly about five hundred with question marks with their
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rotation on the number three, four and five guy, But
you have a great bullpen. You have guys delivering when
it comes to hitting. Now, it's not the faces that
you want it to be, but it is names that
are a foundational part of this roster.
Speaker 5 (02:06:29):
And you feel good about where you stay.
Speaker 7 (02:06:31):
In the division because Los Angeles is going to go
back down to reality at some point. This nine game
win streak is eventually going to come to an end.
This Athletics team, they don't have a home right now,
like the reason why they're struggling. It's great that they
have some pieces, but they don't have a home, which
is why they're losing out in Sacramento. They're playing in
the minor league ballpark teams taking advantage of them. Texas
is Texas. Seattle is Seattle. I feel good about where
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I am despite going through the trials right now.
Speaker 6 (02:06:56):
Well, I mean, you know, it's you never want to
see the losing streaks happen, but it's also where if
you go through it, you're hoping that it's not a
coming at the wrong time and b something that could
really just completely break you as a team. I mean,
that's we've seen it numerous times. I mean, at the
end of seasons, teams that have a five game lead
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going into the final month of the season, and that's
when they play their most baseball and the team that's
chasing them starts to play their best baseball and that's
how they're able to overtake. You see the Astros and
the Mariners last year, where for much of the season
it was all the Mariners.
Speaker 5 (02:07:33):
It was never the Astros. I mean, do you remember
last season the Detroit Tigers.
Speaker 7 (02:07:36):
They were very much a ho hum five hundred team
going into the month of June. Then they found their
identity and it wasn't just Trek Scruble, And it wasn't
just a guy like a Parker Meadows starting to heat
on up or a Spencer Torkolsen being sent down and
you're getting better played from cold Keith.
Speaker 5 (02:07:51):
It was everybody finding ways.
Speaker 7 (02:07:53):
To be able to combat what was a overall roster
that was a little bit ahead a schedule, but then
found a way to be able to keep their best
asset until August and September when they went on the
run and then eventually made the postseason and got to
win over the Astros at dyk In Park.
Speaker 6 (02:08:09):
Yeah, I mean, and to the point you just brought
up there. I mean, that's when you want to be
playing your best baseball. You want to be playing it
in August September, and those are usually the teams that.
Funny enough, if they're playing their best baseball, then well
then they carry it over in the October. And we've
seen the Astros do that a few times. As promised,
let's head out to the hotline. Let's talk with foul
(02:08:29):
Territory TV and former Astros that catcher Eric Krautz. Eric Kratz,
excuse me joining us here on the Sean Salisbury Show. Eric,
appreciate the time you got myself, Dan Matthews, got Cole
Thompson here with you.
Speaker 5 (02:08:44):
First and foremost.
Speaker 6 (02:08:46):
I remember a video of you years ago when you
were with the Brewers and you guys got the final
out of your series against the Rockies and you turned
around shook the umpire's hand. Hey, it's great to work
with you. I've always wanted to ask you if I
ever met you, like, did you do that at all
times or was it just kind of a special time
to do that?
Speaker 14 (02:09:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
All times.
Speaker 15 (02:09:05):
I mean Teddy Barrett was one of my favorite umpires,
so it was cool that like we got to work
together in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (02:09:11):
But no, like you do that all the time.
Speaker 15 (02:09:14):
Like the guys, even even when they sucked, you were like,
you know what, like it was fun working with them,
enjoyed the time. Like sometimes you had to kind of
grit your teeth and say it. But I tried to
say it all the time. And you said earlier, you said,
former Astros Catcher, I mean that is a loose, loose turf.
I was there for like a minute.
Speaker 6 (02:09:38):
Well, I mean I saw the video of your buddies
showing up in the jerseys and there was an Astro's
jersey in there. Eric, So once an Astro, always an Astro.
Speaker 8 (02:09:47):
Absolutely, I claimed to be an Astro.
Speaker 6 (02:09:50):
There you go again, Foul Territory TV's Eric Kratz joining
us here on the Sean Salisbury. So, let's talk about
the shrows on the field right now. That was a
nice showing last night, and the bats really broke out
for this team. And we've kind of seen, you know,
hot and cold with that portion of this team all
throughout the season. What you saw last night is that
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something that you feel like is something that they can
ride the rest of the season, especially with the injuries
they have to their starting pitching.
Speaker 15 (02:10:20):
It was perplexing to me that their best hitter essentially
was either Jeremy Paignet or east O Paradis before this game,
and you know, it's still those numbers would probably say that.
But you sit there and you go, why was this
team not hitting? Was Kyle Tucker who missed most of
the season. That big a deal with Alec Bregman, That
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big a deal. Yeah, I think he's that big of
a deal.
Speaker 8 (02:10:47):
I think he added a element to the lineup that
is not irreplaceable. It's just difficult to simulate. It's difficult
to say, Okay, well, this is the guy that's going.
Speaker 22 (02:11:01):
To be able to hit that ninety eight up at
the top of the zone on a consistent basis. The
biggest thing with Bregman to replace in a lineup.
Speaker 1 (02:11:13):
It besides his swagger.
Speaker 15 (02:11:15):
And confidence and just the will to win, which is immeasurable,
it's essentially a guy that strikes out less than he
I mean, yeah, strikes out less than.
Speaker 1 (02:11:27):
He walks, which sounds like an easy thing to do, but.
Speaker 15 (02:11:31):
In the big leagues, at the level that he had
played for a long time, I think it's hard to duplicate,
But I think moving forward, this team has those pieces.
The only thing that I would say is probably going
to be tough for Joe A Spada in a platoon
type of world is the fact that they have right
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handed hitters Goalore. I mean it is with jordn Out,
with Kyle tuffer Gone. You really lose a lot of
like consistent left handed power, which helps a pitcher right
handed or left handed navigate a lineup so so much
easier because you don't have to worry about that power
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from the left side and right on right off speed,
right on right power against power which a lot of
teams bring out of the bullpen. Ken kind of neutralize
this team. But moving forward, you're going to continue. To me,
we felt like Jermy Paeney was going to when we
talked to the Astros guys in the spring training, he
was going to break out this season. Obviously he's you know,
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he's trending towards the All Star type of season. Christian
Walker is going to start hitting. Christian Walker is not
Jose of Bray you at the age that they signed
him last time, So Astro fans don't need to worry
about it.
Speaker 8 (02:12:51):
Yeah, yes, they could find a left handed bat, and.
Speaker 1 (02:12:54):
I think that's Jordan Avarez.
Speaker 8 (02:12:55):
Hopefully this hand muscle thing, mystery injury that there is
can come back.
Speaker 22 (02:13:00):
And this team is still at five hundred and so
this lineup has so much potential and I think will
turn it around the rest of the year.
Speaker 7 (02:13:09):
Yeah, Eric, I want to get your opinion on the
Christian Walker situation. This is his lowest batting average and
his lowest ops since twenty eighteen, and during that span
he only played thirty seven games, he only had forty
nine at bats. He's batt in less than two hundred
right now, and I agree with you. I can't stomach
when Astros fans are saying, Jose Bray you two point
zero because Jose Brady wasn't offering this type of defense.
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But what is it right now that needs to change?
Is his approach to the plate. Is it something with
his swing discipline? When you go back and you watch
the tape, what's up with Christian Walker and why he's
not able to have that same similar success that we
saw on Arizona for the last five se seasons.
Speaker 8 (02:13:51):
Changing scenarios, the pressure, all that stuff could be factors.
Speaker 15 (02:13:55):
Obviously, only Christian Walker can answer to that when I
watch his When I watched and I you know, I
need to watch more Astros baseball to see how teams
are not just facing him, but also how they attack
the rest of the lineup.
Speaker 8 (02:14:12):
He was in a lineup that he understood. How he
understood how pitchers were attacking.
Speaker 15 (02:14:18):
Him in the NL West consistently with other guys around
him the last few years.
Speaker 8 (02:14:24):
Corbyn Carrol to tell Marte, you.
Speaker 15 (02:14:26):
Know, even even a Heraldo Perdomo like guys that.
Speaker 8 (02:14:30):
Were consistently in the lineup. Now he's consistently in the
lineup with new guys in.
Speaker 15 (02:14:34):
The American League West. How are teams going to face him?
And that's what a veteran hitter will learn.
Speaker 16 (02:14:42):
But also ultimately I got to see him take advantage
of the home team bullpen in right center field more.
Sometimes when you get to the Crawford Boxes.
Speaker 1 (02:14:54):
Pool, happiness is exciting. He sat Paradis never hits.
Speaker 15 (02:14:59):
The ball center field, to the right of center field,
so it's a different type of dynamic for him. Easily
fits in. Hey, you know what, keep your game plan,
keep pulling the ball like you do. Christian Walker was
banging balls into the pool for.
Speaker 1 (02:15:15):
A minute out in Arizona.
Speaker 8 (02:15:18):
If you sit there and you go, wow, I.
Speaker 15 (02:15:21):
Can just easily pull hook a ball to left field
and it's a homer.
Speaker 8 (02:15:26):
Now all of a sudden, whether or not he's trying
to do that, his elevated amount of strikeouts at this
point in the season has struck out percent. And don't
forget what exactly it is. He's just going to go
up ultimately because you're not staying on the ball as
long as you can.
Speaker 1 (02:15:44):
For me, when he.
Speaker 15 (02:15:45):
Starts to drive the ball to right center, that's when
you buy on the upside because Christian Walker is going
to start to get hot and he will. Nothing that
I've seen in any of his outlier metrics besides the
strikeouts is crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:16:00):
I haven't heard any injuries.
Speaker 15 (02:16:02):
And you know what, I would bet on his track
record more than his first what.
Speaker 1 (02:16:10):
Are we at fifty games? I would say he will
turn it around again.
Speaker 6 (02:16:15):
Eric Kratz i felt Territory TV. Join us here on
the Sean Salisbury Show and two parterre for you here. Eric,
first part is the Astros pitching, I mean starting to
see some attrition. It looks like Renelle Blanco might be
done for the year. We already know Hayden was Nesky
is done getting Lance mccullors back in. So that's the
first part. Do the Astros have enough pitching to be
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able to run this thing? And the other part is
if you are the Astros, who do you feel like
you have to stave off more? Is it Seattle or
is it eventually Texas? If they start to get things
figured out at the plate.
Speaker 1 (02:16:51):
Can I say yes, sure? Please?
Speaker 8 (02:16:56):
I really see this as a three horse race, and
not to be negative towards ashtro fans, but I don't
know if they have enough starting pitching.
Speaker 15 (02:17:07):
They have an elite, cy young candidate who was to
I mean, come into his own like nobody's business.
Speaker 8 (02:17:13):
In Hunter Brown.
Speaker 15 (02:17:15):
He got hit by a few wind aided home runs
in George Steinberner Field, Tropiccana Stadium whatever they're calling it
this year.
Speaker 8 (02:17:24):
And that was really that's really his only stinker and
it was only a couple pitches. To me, he's really
come into his own and he can be. For the
last year and a half, even the year and three quarters,
he's been that consistent number one for this team.
Speaker 1 (02:17:41):
Everybody knows a fromber can do. It's awesome.
Speaker 8 (02:17:45):
And then some days you're like, is this the real
promber or is this a different promber. So the inconsistency
with Fromber is you can live with it because of
how great the great is. And from there somebody needs
to step up in this rotation to be.
Speaker 1 (02:18:05):
More than a five inning guy.
Speaker 8 (02:18:07):
And I don't know if Lance mccullors last three years
out of the game recovering from what all the stuff
he recovered can be enough to be a sixth inning guy.
Lance McCullers is.
Speaker 1 (02:18:20):
Going to give you everything he has. That's clear. You
don't come back from.
Speaker 8 (02:18:24):
You don't come back from the injuries, the setbacks, the
surgeries that he has and be like, hey, you know what,
I'm just kind of playing out the rest of my contract.
He's going to give you what he has. But take
a look at last night. He had eight punchouts I
think in four and two thirds for a third I think,
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so he didn't get to the fifth inning. He wants
to get to the fifth inning is not a desire thing.
He is out there for the boys, But can your
team sustain the rigors of one hundred and sixty two games.
They have one hundred and twelve left with only two
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and a half rotation pieces. Now when someone else steps up,
when someone else starts growing consistently six innings, this team
will vault to the top of this division, just like
they have every other year.
Speaker 1 (02:19:21):
Because this bullpen is ridiculous. I think I.
Speaker 8 (02:19:26):
Didn't check today, but I think it's the lowest dra
in baseball right now, and if not, it's one of
the best. And they just bring out a cavalcade of arms.
Speaker 15 (02:19:39):
Now, I might go against the trend here and say
if they could add another bullpen arm, that would stretch
that out. Now, all of a sudden, you have six
guys in the back of that bullpen with King and Oker.
Speaker 1 (02:19:55):
And Ort already with a Braye and Hater.
Speaker 8 (02:20:00):
You have six guys in that pen. Now, all of
a sudden, you can go four deep almost every game
with two guys getting arrest. It's a luxury. It's a luxury.
But I say that because I don't know that there's
a starter that the Astros are.
Speaker 1 (02:20:15):
Gonna go get until the end of July. And in this.
Speaker 8 (02:20:19):
Division, the end of July might be too late. But
we will see real.
Speaker 6 (02:20:24):
Quick here, Eric, before we gets you out the door,
one of our listeners, Trevor, wanted to ask about Opening Day,
the tumble out of the dugout, what do you remember
from it.
Speaker 15 (02:20:34):
I remember that somebody said nobody will take a dive
on opening day and I was like, huh, yeah, right,
and lic Gregor saying goes, you won't do it for
a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (02:20:46):
I said huh.
Speaker 8 (02:20:47):
And then Scott Feldman.
Speaker 15 (02:20:50):
Came into the dug at the same time and goes,
who's doing well for one thousand dollars. I'll put one
thousand dollars on it. They were like two grand you
won't take a dive. I'm like in my head and
I'm like please, I'd taken a dive for two hundred
and fifty dollars, so they would go. Eric Kratz number
twenty three, just like Jordan made it back, ran up
the stairs, tripsky, tripsky.
Speaker 8 (02:21:12):
The girl who was holding the flag. If you watch
the video, the girl who was holding the flag, she goes,
oh no, but she never never moved. I mean watching
the video, she never moved, but I never hear her.
I'll never forget her say oh nor ran out gainst
my five. We were playing my previous team, the world
champion twenty fifteen Royals and they were all excited about it.
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They loved it, and I got.
Speaker 5 (02:21:37):
Two grand there you go.
Speaker 6 (02:21:39):
Well, sometimes taking a dive does payoff for sure. Eric
Kratz again, foul Territory TV. It's part of my daily routine,
finish up the show, head home, tun you guys on you,
Scott Braun, aj Brazinski, Todd Frazier, Lonaizzo part of it
as well.
Speaker 5 (02:21:54):
It's it's it's a great.
Speaker 6 (02:21:56):
Product to follow every single day podcast as well. So Eric,
I really appreciate it, man, great stuff, and we'll definitely
call you up here.
Speaker 5 (02:22:03):
Again here very soon.
Speaker 1 (02:22:06):
Please do it.
Speaker 8 (02:22:06):
Thanks me.
Speaker 5 (02:22:07):
I appreciate it again, Eric Kratz. See, that's the thing.
Speaker 6 (02:22:10):
You love the guys that are game to be able
to you know, you won't do this like hell, I
won't for one hundred and fifty bucks, as you said.
You know, he's down for the guys. So loved that
conversation with Eric. All Right, obviously you could tell we
went way over, so we'll step aside react to some
of the things he said. The Christian Walker thing I
thought was really interesting. We'll discuss here. It is Sean
(02:22:31):
Salisbury Show.
Speaker 2 (02:22:34):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 6 (02:22:38):
You know, willing to take the risk for. But there's
also like certain other things.
Speaker 5 (02:22:42):
You know.
Speaker 6 (02:22:42):
It's like if you if you make me try to
eat a bug or something that's not happening five bucks
right now.
Speaker 5 (02:22:48):
No, no bugs, no, Balie, tell me to do something
five bucks, I'll do it. No bugs. I'm like Dan,
no bugs.
Speaker 7 (02:22:53):
No, but just think about it during the commercial break.
Whatever you want me to do, five bucks, I'll do
it for the rest of the show.
Speaker 6 (02:22:58):
Yeah, I mean, it's there is you know, it's meat loaf,
set it best. I will do anything for love, but
I won't do that's that's that's one of those like
like spicy stuff, like you know, I bet you won't
eat that pepper.
Speaker 5 (02:23:09):
I'm definitely in.
Speaker 7 (02:23:10):
I have done the fire in the whole challenge three
times of Pluckers, just because if I want to have
one of my friends did that.
Speaker 2 (02:23:17):
I was bored.
Speaker 7 (02:23:18):
Literally, someone said, I bet you want to do it? Okay, cool.
I didn't even do it for money. And that's the
worst part is I to pay for it afterwards soon enough, though.
Speaker 6 (02:23:24):
I mean, I feel like the numbing kind of happens,
like it's almost like you know, you drink enough bourbons
that soon enough like you can still sort of taste it,
or like you know, vodka soda. I call it the
water effect that you finally get to a point like
where you know it just basically just tastes like water.
Speaker 7 (02:23:38):
Literally, I have the taste buds of a sixty year
cigarette smoker.
Speaker 5 (02:23:42):
Anything hot, it can't taste anymore.
Speaker 6 (02:23:44):
That's a good thing to have, but it's also not
so good for the insides either, you know. That's that's
another story for another time. But anyway, as you can tell,
we obviously ran over with Eric, so Brian, I do
know that you want to get in on that. A
couple of things that Eric did bring up that I
thought were great points that I do want to talk
about with the astros.
Speaker 5 (02:24:01):
So let's do that. Let's make sure the bosses are
happy with us.
Speaker 6 (02:24:04):
In terms of, hey, you got to get out on time,
all of those different types of things.
Speaker 5 (02:24:08):
We'll do that.
Speaker 6 (02:24:08):
Here it is The Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven
to ninety for the Sean Salisbury Show. Continued of talking
about with Christian Walker, and a lot of it makes
sense too, because you know all the things we said
about he and East Soak Perettis Oh man, that swing,
that that left field porch, You're just gonna see the
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power ball just jump off their bats, and you almost
kind of feel like that maybe that started to creep
into his mind a little bit of oh man, I
can just go to left field and I got one
right here, changing things, changing the approach, doing all those
different things that maybe slowly and surely starting to get
back to what's made him him of talking about, Oh
his power is the right center field. He's hitting it
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that way, then the swing's going good.
Speaker 7 (02:24:52):
Look, we have a president of the Jake Myers fan
club here. I am going to be the self proclaimed
president of the Christian Walker fan kelub.
Speaker 5 (02:24:59):
I'm totally fine with now. I'm totally okay with him.
Speaker 7 (02:25:01):
With him, I will ride and down with him because
I rote and doe with him with last season when
he was in Arizona. I thought that he deserved an
All Star bid, he didn't get it, and I thought
that the second of the Asters were going to make
a ploy for a first basement go after him. So
I stand by it. Defensively, he has earned his spot
on the field. There's reasons why you've stayed in games
because of Christian Walker. And it has nothing to do
with the offensive side. The other thing though, that when
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it comes to the Jose Bray you nonsense, is Jose
A Bray you wasn't making contact. He was just striking out.
He was swinging outside the zone. He was missing easy
pitches at eighty four miles because if he was late.
Speaker 5 (02:25:35):
That's not what Christian Walker's doing.
Speaker 7 (02:25:36):
Christian Walker is just not driving the ball to his
sweet spots. He's late behind it on his swing and
so it goes to left field when you want to
go to centerfield. It's a little bit when it comes
to his approach to the plate. He's swinging low on
sliders and on changeups when he probably needs to go
ahead and have a higher arc. But at least he's
making contact with it. So is change of scenery a
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big problem?
Speaker 5 (02:25:59):
Possibly?
Speaker 7 (02:26:00):
Is it just the fact that where he's sitting in
the lineup is a little bit different being in the
same rotation where for the last six seven years you've
been in Arizona with a very consensus lineup that you've
been used in the custom of playing with, whether it
be Catl Marte and any Hango Suarez, and they can
throw in what you've seen over the last few years
of Corbyn.
Speaker 5 (02:26:17):
Carrol, maybe that's been beneficial to you.
Speaker 7 (02:26:21):
I agree with Eric in the sense of I don't
think that we're that far off from getting Christian Walker
back to maybe not what he was last season, but
an identity to where you feel proper enough to where
it does seem like it was a win of a
move to be able to feel like that you sign
him on a three year contract. Again, defensively, he is,
so he is still earning his key. I think that
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as soon as he starts to dry the ball, whether
it be the right center field, whether it be just
a straight center and he's not pulling it to the
left side, you're in a better spot to where you're
not gonna get the home runs, but you may get
a few more extra base hits, which again, that was
what I wanted the Astros to sign him for the
fact that he is a first baseman that can say
it outside the park, but he also has great defense
and enough speed to make it.
Speaker 6 (02:27:03):
A second well, I mean at least the you know
first you know, the last two things you were just
talking about, I mean, we're seeing those, it's just the
consistency with the first part is the problem that a
lot of us are hanging on pitching wise. I mean,
obviously we agree where I mean the starting pitching, you know,
just the subtractions that you're starting to have there from
injuries is starting to pile up. And and it's also
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too it's going to it's going to leak over to
the bullpen because even as good as Okret and any
of these other guys have been, you trot them out
there more and more times, there's much more of a
book on them.
Speaker 5 (02:27:34):
I what do I go after? What do I lay
off of?
Speaker 6 (02:27:37):
And you start to see other teams start to have
some success I mean, and it's also to the fatigue
factor that kind of starts to come in.
Speaker 7 (02:27:44):
What's also the fact that when you talk about like quarterbacks,
so once you get more film on them, you can
kind of base off of how good they're going to be.
Speaker 5 (02:27:49):
Like we argued that CJ.
Speaker 7 (02:27:50):
Stroud or now Jayden Daniels, let's wait two three years
before we decide to crown them at top ten passer
in the game. Because the more film you get on them,
the more you're able to see what works and what doesn't,
how we can combat them, and how we can put
them in a position of tragedy. It's the same thing
with relief pitchers. Steven Oaker looked really good to begin
the season. Well, now you got multiple innings on him
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to see what works and what does and what pictures
you can crank.
Speaker 6 (02:28:14):
Someone three two and two five seven ninety. Let's head
down the Parland. Brian wants to weigh in. Good morning, Brian,
Hey morning Dan.
Speaker 15 (02:28:22):
I it was good to hear you real quick.
Speaker 14 (02:28:24):
Dan.
Speaker 23 (02:28:24):
I know you and I went back and forth on
X here and for those people that were I guess
we're before the nine o'clock hour, there was talking about
the Texans and ripping down the dome. I looked it
up and as of twenty fourteen, the astronome is a
registered historical landmark.
Speaker 8 (02:28:39):
It cannot come down.
Speaker 23 (02:28:41):
It has to be renovated and redeveloped, but it cannot
come down. The problem is, and I know this, I
do have some intimate knowledge of what's going on, not completely,
but I have informed information that there's too much of
a power struggle between the Houston Rodeo and the Texans
and the sports authority and they all have to agree
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on it.
Speaker 8 (02:29:03):
And apparently that doesn't.
Speaker 23 (02:29:05):
Seem like it will ever happen in terms of what
to do with it. I think the Texans would love
to repurpose it for a parking lot and parking garage whatever,
or like if you ever been outside a Soldier field,
like they have like a little plaza across the lay
where they have like a tailgate area and games and
all that.
Speaker 18 (02:29:26):
And make it that way.
Speaker 23 (02:29:27):
But I don't think the Rodeo wants that to happen,
and so it's just a huge mess in terms of
getting them all together. So tearing down the Astronome and
redoing it and rebuilding the new Texans Stadium there just isn't.
Speaker 8 (02:29:40):
Gonna happen because it can't happen.
Speaker 23 (02:29:43):
When it comes to Christian Walker. I also wonder how
much of this is new League, new Division. I know
there's interleague play, but when you don't see these guys
on a routine basis George Kirby's in which so much
spin in the game, I think sometimes there's just an
adjustment period of I got to see some of these
pitchers once or twice and actually see the ball come
out of their hand more than maybe once every three
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seasons when I might face him an interleague play.
Speaker 1 (02:30:08):
I wonder how much of that'll.
Speaker 8 (02:30:10):
Be and work.
Speaker 23 (02:30:10):
I still think he'll probably finish the season around two
fifty two sixty, which, hey, at this point I will take.
Speaker 8 (02:30:16):
But I hope he will snap found of it.
Speaker 23 (02:30:19):
And I'm hoping once you get your one bank, you
can move Walker a little bit lower in the lineup
and maybe that'll free him up a little bit. But yeah,
regarding the astronome, that's kind.
Speaker 5 (02:30:28):
Of what's going on with it.
Speaker 23 (02:30:29):
So if the Texans won something, they're either gonna have
to build bulldoz n RG and figure out something while
they build a new stadium, or go elsewhere, because the
astronome is a movie.
Speaker 6 (02:30:39):
Gotcha, guys, Hey appreciate the call, Brian. Yeah, I mean,
you know, we've touched on that a little bit earlier.
But with Walker, I mean, and you know, even one
of the things that Eric brought up with us, I mean,
new team, it's it's human nature. You want to be
able to come out of the gate with the cannon
shots and needed it a little bit at the beginning,
but then you started to see the strikeouts, piling up,
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the runners in scoring position, all of these other things
kind of trying to play outside of the abilities that
he's got, and it's obviously yielded no results in that return.
Speaker 16 (02:31:10):
Well.
Speaker 7 (02:31:10):
Brandon also brought up a good point that when you
don't have a Yurnon Alvarez out there, you can't really
move him that much further down the lineup because who
are you moving up that's going to be able to
hit with the Rierson's scoring position.
Speaker 5 (02:31:20):
Yarner makes sense.
Speaker 7 (02:31:21):
Maybe if you were to have hal too may bat
in the five hole and then you have Walker in
the six hole, that could make sense. But you don't
have somebody right now that can be in that three
hole right behind the sock Pretties and Jeremy Panoes.
Speaker 5 (02:31:31):
That's why you have what you currently are dealing with.
Speaker 6 (02:31:33):
Yeah, and I mean the astros. You're hoping that the
offense starts to kind of turn a corner, especially to
when you factor in again, you know some of the
things that you're dealing with on the starting rotation side.
I mean, when it comes to it, it's, you know,
looking at this rotation, they will have to make a move.
I don't think there's any doubt about that. I just
think that if this team wants to try to be
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able to keep base and maybe even pass Seattle and
keep the Rangers at arm's length. I mean, you're going
to have to have somebody that can come in here
and eat some innings. And I'm not talking about going
after a frontline guy. A. You don't have the guys
who go be able to go get that guy.
Speaker 14 (02:32:08):
But B.
Speaker 6 (02:32:09):
I mean it's also you already have the front end
of your rotation figured out. It's the back end right
now that you're having to worry about.
Speaker 7 (02:32:17):
Well, you and I were talking about this during a
commercial break. You Saiy Kacuci coming on in last year.
You give up Will Wagner, you give up a picture,
and you give up Joey Lo Braffito. None of those
guys were probably going to be a part of your
long term plan.
Speaker 5 (02:32:29):
And what did it do.
Speaker 7 (02:32:30):
It was a number four guy that got you over
the hump to win the Al West. That's what you
have to do to get rid of maybe a name
that's not going to be here for the long haul.
Speaker 18 (02:32:39):
So be it.
Speaker 7 (02:32:40):
If it gives you a number five starter that has
a three point six y five to four oer, you
pair that with what you have in the front line,
and maybe somebody breaks on out and you feel healthy.
That's good enough for me right now. That's fine right now,
and that's all I'm asking for at this point.
Speaker 6 (02:32:54):
Aggie, Doug will get you involved in the conversation. Also
a slight amount of college ball before we go out
the door, because me and you can't pair up without that,
because how do we not go on a local Ish program.
Was asked a question and their answer was no, we'll
talk about it here as it is the Sean Salisbury
Show Sports SOX seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:33:20):
Now back to to Sean Salisbury.
Speaker 5 (02:33:23):
I thought I probably told you that narmerous time.
Speaker 7 (02:33:25):
I was supposed to go to Same Pius in trouble
and then I got keep out of private school.
Speaker 5 (02:33:29):
That's a story. That's a story for a different day.
Speaker 6 (02:33:31):
Sometimes life has a funny way of working out well
for itself. But uh, anyway, Astro's nine to two winners
last night over the Mariners.
Speaker 5 (02:33:40):
They're gonna get back in action again tonight.
Speaker 6 (02:33:43):
Renel Blanco on the ale with inflammation in his right
elbow and the Thunder take a two to zero series
lead on the Timberwolves in the NBA's Western Conference Finals.
One three, two five seven ninety. The number to get in,
Aggie Dug. He wants to bring us up this morning,
ag you what's up?
Speaker 8 (02:34:01):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 9 (02:34:02):
Man? I was at the game last night, and I mean,
it was great to see that Lance got eight strikeouts.
I didn't even realize that when they pulled him.
Speaker 8 (02:34:10):
I was like, damn eight.
Speaker 9 (02:34:11):
I didn't realize that. But they were hitting the ball really,
really hard. So he's definitely missing some spots for sure.
I feel like he's basically learning how to pitch again
when he's out there. So I mean, that's definitely going
to be a you know hitter, you know, who knows
what's going to happen every time he pitches. I mean,
obviously have Hunter, you have you know, Framberg, and then
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we kind of have to figure it out after that.
But I was talking to somebody at the game last night.
I just feel like the Astros are getting into the
Pittsburgh Steelers type of mode right now, where they're always
competitive every year, which is great for the fan base.
I'm not complaining. It's just that you're never going to
be able to bottom out and get those draft picks
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that you need to push you into that next big run.
There's so many teams that basically, you know, do really well,
then they bought them out. You know, you think about
like even the Red Sox they've done that a couple
of times, The Nationals have done it a couple of times.
Even the Marlins have done it a couple of times.
And obviously the Marlins are trash and the Nationals. But
and I don't want to get to that point. So
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it's kind of like, you know, it's a double edged sword.
Speaker 6 (02:35:19):
Do we.
Speaker 9 (02:35:20):
Do we you know, just suck enough to where we're
not going to be competitive at the trade deadline and
we can trade some of those guys away. Or do
you actually just kind of like like Paul was saying,
is that you just kind of keep feeding that that
we need a fourth or fifth starter, We need this guy,
we need this small bat, we need the left head
to bat. You know, I just feel like the Astros
(02:35:43):
aren't dominant anymore, and in order to be dominant.
Speaker 5 (02:35:46):
You got to have those guys.
Speaker 9 (02:35:48):
And you got to get those guys to the draft
because I don't think we're going to.
Speaker 6 (02:35:50):
Sign them well and aging before you go. I mean,
I feel like part of that's already been done. I mean,
the Kyle Tucker trade I feel like was being able
to get back to what you're talking about right.
Speaker 9 (02:36:04):
No, with Cam Smith, obviously he's Cam Smith and Descenzo.
I think those guys, if you can plug those guys
for the next seven years, is your corner outfielders.
Speaker 1 (02:36:12):
I think we're golden.
Speaker 18 (02:36:14):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (02:36:14):
And then if you probably signed resigned Jake Myers to
A to A, I mean, I guess an okay contract,
he's having a great year.
Speaker 5 (02:36:21):
He's gonna get a contract. Man, That's the only.
Speaker 9 (02:36:23):
Thing I'm gonna have to Yeah and so and so.
I guess from my perspective, you got your outfield. They're
pretty young, but you're gonna have to start getting some
younger guys on the infield. You know, Al two A
is not gonna be around very long. You're not gonna
probably be able to re sign your don and you know,
and then you kind of go from there. Do you
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look at possibly trying to trade him? Uh, you know,
to kind of replenish the system, because I just think
the way the Astros, I mean, obviously they've been extremely successful,
so you can't complain about the the the results, but
they're I just I feel like the other shoe's going
to drop and when it does, I feel it's going
to end really badly.
Speaker 5 (02:37:05):
Now I appreciate the call. I mean, I get what
you're saying.
Speaker 6 (02:37:07):
I just you do run into a situation where you
have to take inventory of where you are as a team.
And that's why sometimes you will get organizations that they
make trades they you know, allow guys to leave in
free agency. I mean, where you know the fan base
is looking at them and saying, well, wait a minute,
what are you doing. You don't have to do this
because they asked and answer the question to themselves of
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are we competitive? Are we chasing something that's just not there?
And if you answer yes to that, then it's okay,
well then let's go this route. But then it's a
somewhat painful process that me and you were just talking
about during the break, if you do it right.
Speaker 5 (02:37:43):
Look at the Astros.
Speaker 6 (02:37:44):
They finally decided in twenty eleven about even before that,
I think it was ten was when they traded uh
Berkman away. But during that time, it was when they
finally just admitted to themselves, this just isn't happening, like
we need we need to go a different direction and
try this again in a few years. In twenty fifteen
is when you were able to be competitive again. So
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if you decide to go that route, it's a couple
of years where it's man, this burns. But then it's
also two Like I remember that twenty fourteen season where
it was starting to see some of these guys come up,
I see the promise, and in twenty fifteen it was, oh,
we got postseason baseball again.
Speaker 5 (02:38:21):
This rules two things.
Speaker 7 (02:38:22):
Number One, you still have to be competitive at the
time that you think of the windows open. If you
think that there's enough of a window open for the Astros,
you can't be trading away all of your progressive talent
right now. Number Two, you also have to realize that
when you struggle a lot of these players, are they
going to resign or are they going to want to
hit the open market.
Speaker 5 (02:38:40):
If they want to.
Speaker 7 (02:38:41):
Resign, your windows so open. So how many of these
guys are actually leaving in the offseason. As for yourd On,
there's no rush. He's not a free agent until twenty
twenty nine, so he's not going anywhere. Jose al Tuva
is not going anywhere.
Speaker 6 (02:38:52):
The Astros have the pieces, it's just it's they need
to be able to probably make a move here for
a starting pitcher, and hopefully they can do that sooner
rather than later. Cole Thompson, you're the best, buddy. Appreciate it.
Don't forget too the a team later on this afternoon
three fifteen, John is going to be joining them. Well
maybe step into the room right there with the couch,
get yourself in that, but triple Emmanuel Elmore, you're the best, buddy.
Speaker 5 (02:39:15):
Have a great weekend.
Speaker 6 (02:39:16):
Dan Matthews, we will talk to you all in more
than sixty eight hours. Have a great weekend, everybody,
Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan matthewscuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Well one two to Dubon and that's smacked the other
way past the dive of Talasen in the right field.
Around third, buyers, he will score. Smith goes to third.
Mauricio Dubon checks in with an RBI single to make
it three to two. Astros first pitch and Paenia rockets
this one out to left center, racing back of ros Arena,
and that's over his head. What hops off the fence
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in front of the visitor's bullpen. Smith scores Dupon around third.
He's coming home.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
He scores.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
It's a two run triple for Jeremy Payana and the
Astros lead is five to two three two Al two
ve ammers this one tta left center field and you
can kiss that one good bye through the archery and
the Astros lead is six to two OL two a
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s fifth of the year and his first since April
twenty eighth first pitch and al two A trills at
DTA lot kiss it got by a two homer game
for jose L two Vey Let's run a two run
shot and the Astros lead eight to two. Al Twove
has driven in four tonight or it delivers and that's
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hitting the right center. Smith on his horse racing back
drugs it down. Excellent catch by Smith and a good
way to finish off this ballgame. The Houston Astros scoring
four consecutive innings and beat the Seattle Mariners nine to
two to take the first game of this four game series.
The Astros are now two and a half back in
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the AL West.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Oh much better, much better.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
I mean that was fun to watch as the Astros
able to win last night. You just heard Robert Ford
filly in on the arrest of the details, Jose Altuve,
a couple of homers, get to that in just a
second renew Blanco on the il elbow inflammation, gonna seek
a second opinion, and the thunder taking a two oh
(02:21):
lead on the Timberwolves in the NBA's Western Conference Finals.
And with all that we say away we go in
good morning here on the Sean Salisbury Show. Cole Thompson
in on this freaky Friday for Sean. You are back.
Here you go, Katie Bill. Everybody's excited for that I'm
for sure TRIPLEE Emmanuel Elmore in there, and a couple
(02:43):
of the highlights you heard in there, Jose Altuve leaving
the yard not once but twice.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
It was glorious. We love to see it. In this case,
we'd love to hear it. It would have been a
great for a third one.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Oh, Dan Matthews, what a good way to start a
Hawaiian Friday. What away You mentioned that we got to
see enough of vintage Lance mccullor's junior kind of peak
its way through last night too. That was another big
time thing that I think a lot of people are
kind of taking a big exhale after the news of
Rono Blanco earlier in the afternoon.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
And that's exactly it.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
I mean, you know, you get the news of Blanco,
You're already without Hayden was Nesky, You're gonna be without
Spencer Arraghetti. I mean, me and Gordy were talking about
it yesterday. I guess he finally got the cast off,
so he'll probably sometime this weekend start tossing. But then,
I mean, we had Dana Brown on yesterday and he
said it's gonna be a spring training build up all
over again. Throwing program everything before. Maybe you get an
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inning in and then you get a couple in and
then you're, you know, just trying to build up from there.
So that to me is not showing me he's back
until the All Star breaks. So last night, to your point,
you need Lance mccullors Junior to do what he did.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
And honestly, I'll take four to third if I'm getting
eight strikeouts, if I'm working out of jams, if i
give up a two run first, because remember back when
we had a healthy Lance mccullors on the things that
everyone would talk about was his rocky start where he'd give.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Up two runs in the first two innings.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
Calm down, he'd give you six strong, he wouldn't let
anybody else on base, he'd strikeout six, he'd only walk one.
He'd work counts in his favor, and then you just
trust your bullpen. Well, he got eight strikeouts last night,
you got four and a third.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
You only gave up the.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
First two runs and then it was smooth sailing the
rest of the way through, as long as the way
the bullpen is playing. Where eether it's be Brian King
or the Steven Oaker performance last night with three strikeouts
or Caleb worret. He didn't have to turn to Josh Hater,
wasn't a safe situation, didn't have to turn to Brian
and Bray you.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
But we know what both of them can do.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
You're in a really good spot, and this is one
of those times where is it gonna be a full
pitching performance whenever Lance McCully takes them mount Probably, But
are you willing to take that if you're able to
get eight strikeouts, if you're willing to only give up
two runs, and this is the way that your offense
mechanically works. And again I'm not saying that you have
to have josel two of a breaking eighteen game hitting
(04:58):
st eighteen game RB streak, which nobody is asking for.
Nobody is wanting to see this version every eighteen days.
They'd rather see it every seven days if need be sure.
But if you're getting that, and you're getting the offensive
East SoC predes still, if you're getting the version of
a Jeremy Pan hitting multiple extra base hits, if getting
better play at the bottom of your order, Jake Myers
still being Jake Myers, You'll take a full performance as
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long as this is the version of Lance mccallors.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
That's giving you four strongs and.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
If nothing else last night, I mean you finally saw that, Okay,
like I can see it now, like, oh yeah, it's
right there. I don't have to have somebody telling me
I can see the future that. I mean, you're able
to not have shades of what you had against the Reds.
I mean when he walks the leadoff had the leadoff
hitter Crawford. Yeah, and then yeah, he walks a couple
(05:46):
on that inning, and then he gives up the RBI
single to Roddy Tilez. You're just kind of like, dude,
don't have us out of this already. I mean, even
though it was his first star of the year, it's
still George Kirby, and early on it looked like he
was still going to be George Kirby.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
There was a part of me last night when watching
the first two innings just like come on, really, like
this is gonna be the new norm for Spencer Arragheddy,
Like that's where Astros fans brains are gonna go, oh,
you missed two months of work. Well, George Kirby just
came out here in mode past the Astros lineup Rageeddy,
that's the new standard when you come back like that's
how it felt.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
Well and then you know tripley. I still got to
highlight number twelve up there. But I mean, in terms
of just the overall phant excitement in the building last night,
I think it kind of ratchets up a little bit
more for certain players. And this is jose Al two
Bay's second home run. Listen to the pop after he
hits the ball.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
First pitch and Al two trills it taste.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
It gout by.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
A two homer game.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
For hose L Twove.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
This run a two ruck shot and the Astros lead
eight to two.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Al Twove has driven it four tonight.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Yes, second, older people who thinks that he's aging with time,
uh huh, we saw vintitch Josel two ball.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I mean, and that's exactly it is.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
I mean, I think that you know, obviously Astros fans,
you're huge fans of all of the guys that are
on this team, but there's certain guys that like have
like an extra level of being made, you know, in
terms of like you want to look like a mafia comparison.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Here is that. I mean, he's one of those guys.
And Lance is one of those guys.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Jordan still one of those guys, because I mean, as
this thing has changed ever, you know, it's not even slightly,
It's completely changed.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I mean from everything in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
The only guy that's still hear position player wise is
Jose Al tub The only guy that's still hear picture
wise is Lance mcculler's junior.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
So I mean it's completely different.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
It's a completely different version of the Astros than what
we've seen. But like for Altuve last night, like when
I heard that highlight this morning, I was like, those
are like fans like being like, please God, we want
to see this out of you again. And I mean
I understand what you said about you know, people questioning
his age, thirty five years old, all of that, but like.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I that cheer right there.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Cole told me that, like people are legit concerned about Okay.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
The thing is when it comes to al Tuovan, I
think it's more so him. It's you're allowing two players
that are younger, that are as influential and probably have
the same value and could have that same homegrown field
by the end of the day, walking for the free
agency to trade him because of Alex Bregman is now
playing in Boston and he's three five years younger, and
(08:25):
he's crushing it. In femway, you're looking at the MVP
season that Kyle Tucker's putting on at Wiggley Field right now. Now,
Tucker's a completely different situation. You're not paying four hundred
million dollars in Houston. We all knew that, so you
might as well recoup as much benefits as possible and.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Call it a day.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
But the Bregman deal, when you sign out two by
to a new five year contract, knowing that he's thirty
five years old, he's going to finish his career as
an astro and he's going to get the three thousand heads.
He's gonna go down as the greatest player to ever
wear the uniform.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
It's like it means something.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
But also you don't want that window to automatically be closed.
You don't want to say we bet on our best
player and our most valuable player in terms of the
franchise ambiance because of we want him to end his
career as an astro And in the process we watched
that window close since they move him to the three hole.
And again, this is a big time deal, because if
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we've talked about this multiple times, he was hitting one
ninety one in the two hole. In the three hole,
he's beat in two to eighty seven. He has a
nine to eighty one. Ops.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
It might be enough.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
Like honestly, the fact that we saw a change the plate,
we saw a change his as his delivery. Uh, he's
not swinging as much as at first pitches, he's at
least leaving the ball in play and he's watching the
counts Bodewild's favor. I think it's something that you have
to take into consideration moving forward as this is where
Josel Tube has to play because with all of that
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money that you have allocated towards his contract, you gotta live.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Up to it.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
Whether or not he's thirty five, whether or not he's
turned on the back mind, whether or not he's getting older.
It's the fact that you invested in Hoseel Tuob it
is still be a cornerstone piece for this organization. So
where is he best going to be propri vide that value?
Is it in the three hole, is it in the
sixth hole, is it in the seventh hole, whatever it is,
just to make sure that he lives up to the
contract stats.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
She got to see it last night. We saw it
in the three hole.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
And how funny is it too? I mean you mentioned
est soak Paratis. Every single Astro starter not named escoc
Paratis got a hit last night.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Yeah, and I'll take that.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
I will take that. I think everybody in Houston will
take that. You give me two hit performance from Christian
Walker and a one hit performance every other day from
estoch Predes for a week and you end up going
six out of seven.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Nobody is complaining about that.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
Esoch Parides did his job when everyone else was struggling,
So let him have a moment to kind of catch
his breath and everyone catch him speak.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Yeah, he also has run batted in there where it
looked like it was going to be yet another double
play where I mean his first step out of the
game grounds in on a double play. And I made
the joke that I said, you know, if we were
starting to play a drinking game with Astro double plays,
we would not draw a sober breath from month.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Really you think so?
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Yes, we we would be would choices the big question.
We would be pretty much anything. I mean, it's you know,
in what what it made me think of as a
buddy of mine, Mac that I used to work with,
and it was the one of the major like power
balls or mega millions like jackpots that were out there,
and it's the old you know, oh man, you know
you hit the six numbers? What are you gonna do?
(11:22):
And I just remembered his line, he goes, he goes,
we'd be in Jamaica. We would not draw a sober
breath for weeks.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
All I think of right now is my buddy Chris,
who's having rumblement shots on Whover, Alabama. Oh, come on, okay,
rumblem It's fine, It's it's the fireball.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
I can't do it anymore. I can.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
I can handle fireballs. See I can't. I'm thirty thirty one.
I don't do I don't do fireballs.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
There's just like an extra zing to it. And I'm
just like, oh god, is it the after burn that
tastes like that?
Speaker 8 (11:49):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Yeah, yeah, rumplement. For me, it's the cinnamon Like I
don't know why. It's like doing the cinnamon Challenge, like
back in circa twenty thirteen. I got ruined off of
that because if I choked.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
So that's why.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Kids, It's like Christmas almost like where like you eat
like a peppermint, you know, bite or something like that.
That's what I feel like. Basically, I'm drinking as as
a shot right there. And it's it's not.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
As solokalo in there. You call it peppermintmocha. It's just
a it's just not a virgin one. There we got
problem solving.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
All right, there you go, Well, you know where you
could be like Robert Goulay or his his brother in
the Red Ships of Spain on Saturday Night Live. You know,
drinking straight Khalua in the theater bathroom.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
You're a drunk. That was Will Ferrell, right.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
It was Will Ferrell, but it was I forget who
Robert Goulay's brother was that played.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
That was played by Alec Baldwin. Oh, you're actually talking
about who is his brother?
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Well, I just I can't remember what his brother's name was.
But anyway, that is yeah, but that's that's what he
threw out him. He said, you know, you're drinking straight
Kalou in the theater bathroom.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
And then he stops for a second. He goes, you're
a drunk. You're a loser.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
I always hate Okay, that was the one character by
Will Ferrell that I never got in to the Robert Goodlight.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I loved it. I never did. I don't know why. Well,
I mean, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
I'm just trying to think. Is it because I'm too
young to understand? And Robert probably yeah, I'd probably say
that's it. But I mean, you know, you know who
Neil Diamond is.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Yeah, And I love the Inside the Artist Studio or
whatever they did with John Goodman, Tim Meadows and I
forget who the other guy was that was part of it.
But like he's telling like inappropriate stories and like getting
very racial and like other other ways that you know,
obviously you would not do Saturday Night Live now, but.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Why not be fun. Let's just see what happens. Like
you know, I always love where he's He's like, you needs.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
To retire anyway, So lord, do this do the ones?
Get you out at the top, Eddie over here and
John Goodman he goes. We've talked for hours about this.
Leave me out this one, Neil, No, I would leave
you in again. Just Lauren, go back to old nineties version.
I promise you that's the way to go ahead and go.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
They're kind of doing I mean they're pushing the envelope
a little bit more now, Like that is one thing
I will say about SNL. I mean, I've seen it
a couple of times. Like you know, I'm a big
Shane Gellows guys, So you know.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Watched the episode. See, I like, so I watched that.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Yeah, that was. That was a good one. The Mother's
Day brunch skit, that was. That was a good one.
But Mark, Yeah, yeah, he does, he does. He does
lean into the southernness a little bit, does Walton Goggins.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
But sorry, he is one of the most underappreciated actors
currently in the game, and I hope that he's finally
he's got the respect he deserves.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Well, I mean he he got respect from me when
he was Downtown Billy Anderson and major League back to
the minors.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Okay, see, I didn't realize he was in that movie.
Yeah he was, Yeah he was.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
He was the hot shot prospect that Scott Baculo was
trying to rein in I tell you lay one down,
you lay one down.
Speaker 9 (14:41):
See.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
The only thing that I remember him from first was Justified,
And then I got fully invested when him and told
Timofield a fan on a really.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Great show.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
He doesn't, And that was like one of those f
X shows that like right before the Baron all the
other things kind of came out. That was like the
staple of television for those that didn't want watch like
the network shows on NBC.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Following for sure.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
And that's the thing like I think, like if you
had that show now, obviously with how you know much
Goggins has grown over the years with Jim Stones and
most recently with The White Lotus, I mean, I think
that probably if he had this a little bit later
on in his career, because Timothy Oliphant, I mean basically
he plays the same guy in everything that he's Yeah,
he just plays.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
An he just plays an a hole. Yeah, he plays
Josh Jumel.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
No, Josh Dumel plays like the much nicer, like endearing
version of right.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
That's why they're twins, That's why they're doppelgangers. Ones getting
ones yet? Okay, all right, have.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
You ever heard that story, by the way of Timmy,
I mean of Timothy Olifant taking a photo with Josh
Dumel's family and them setting it out as a Christmas
card and the mom not realizing it until two years later.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Interesting? Yeah, No, I never heard that. That's that is interesting.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
That's how you know for a fact that you are
actually doppelgangers. Is that when your own mother can't tell
that that's you for two years and then you take
another Christmas card? How did you get work done on
your face? No, it's a completely different actor. I'm so
glad that you notice over time.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Yeah, buddy of mine's in the industry. Dumel is one
of his guys. And I'm like, that is he really
like you know, and he's buddies. So I try to
take it with a grain of salt, and I'm like,
is he really as cool as like he comes across?
He goes, Oh, even cooler he goes, He goes It's
not like, yes, his profession is to act, but he
goes like he really is like a dude's dude, massive
sports fan, like big, he's a big sports dude. Yeah,
(16:22):
he's big, big Minnesota everything, Vikings, Twins, all of that.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
That's where you know he's from. But just everything.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
I mean, like he he's like, he's like if we're
not on set, like we're not doing anything like that,
it's it's beer, it's wings, it's it's us watching you know,
the NBA Finals or whatever it might be. Like, He's like, no,
he's he's definitely one of the guys. But anyway, we'll
get back into the Astros conversation. Bill a c right there.
You want to join him Sebone three two one two
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five seven ninety against seven one three two one two
five seven ninety much better.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Lance.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
We'll talk about that here as we're just getting started
here on the Sean Salisbury Show Sportstock seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Is that when he was with the Astros.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
I'll have to go back and look of when it
was one of the many I remember too when Kratzy
as they call him on the show when he retired,
a bunch of his buddies showed up wearing the different
jerseys from all of his stops during his major league career.
So he had the Phillies and as he I think
he played for like nine teams. I mean, he just
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he was one of those journeyman catchers that you know,
he calls good game, handles, the pitching staff, all of that.
A little bit of a light hitter, but still it
was he was a valuable guy that you could get
every single year for the other things that I just mentioned,
and so he was able to keep a job in
Major League Baseball for many years because of it's so good.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Kind teams, including a one year stop or a half
year stop at the Houston Astros in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
There you go, all right, So I thought it was
twenty sixteen. But anyway, Kratz A, you gonna join us then,
and we'll get into a little bit of Astro and
everything else with him coming up here in about a
couple and a half hours. Someone three seven ninety again
is the number. Just told you a little bit about
Lance mccaller's stat line. We could talk about that, but
Billy gonna get us started here this morning.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Good morning, Billy, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (18:17):
They're gonna hit. I said it yesterday. They're gonna hit.
Speaker 9 (18:20):
Now.
Speaker 11 (18:21):
Can they do it consistently?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (18:23):
I was actually scared last night that they might get
to ten runs. Uh, they don't do well the next
game after scoring ten runs. I wish I could explain that,
but I got a little nervous about that. But they
they did. Uh, they did what I expect him to do.
They just moved the line. Yeah, A couple of home runs,
but uh, they I just need to see that consistently
now and I'm hoping they can find that. Lance looked better,
(18:46):
like you said, but still control. But if he gets it,
how long does it take in spring training for a
pitcher to find his control? Six eight appearances something like that,
And we're not there yet for him. Technically, this is
spring training for him. So that's a positive. If you
want to get under Seattle Mariner's skin, I found it
to be very easy. If you think that Astro's twitter
(19:08):
is whiny, go look at Seattle Mariner's X. When Brian
Wu got hurt, some guy described it as a very
hard hit foul ball got him in the lower leg,
and my response to that was I thought it was
being polite. I said, I hope the ball's okay. I
don't know I have a problem with that. I don't
know why they have such a problem with it, but
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they apparently did. But I'm looking for the Astros to
some consistency, get on a roll. They're at home for
a little while. This is where they play better, and
let's pick up some games, get a little separation between
them and the Rangers. I really not worried about Seattle
because they're going to find their way to not hit
this year as they always do, and we're going to
be there at the end.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
As I said.
Speaker 11 (19:51):
Yesterday, great show as always, guys, thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
They appreciate Billy now. I mean, we'll start first with
what he ended with that call. I think I'm more
concerned about the Rangers than I am about the Mariners.
I mean, I just I feel like the Mariners. Yeah,
I think that they're starting pitching is probably on par
with the Mariners, and they've been without Corey Seeger. They'll
they'll hit like that. That team will finally put it together.
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Simeon's been down, Garcia's been down, although I don't know
if Garcia is ever gonna be like what he was.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
What was it twenty three that one season where is
Garcia is not gonna come back?
Speaker 6 (20:27):
I know, crazy, there's some thoughts of that, but I
mean they still have a good enough team to be
able to challenge you down the stretch. And I mean,
I just I think Seattle, like seeing the way that
they were hitting early on in the season, I was like,
is that sustainable for them? Because it's basically the same
lineup that they had. I mean, it's how much can
you necessarily improve in one season?
Speaker 7 (20:45):
But well, damn, what do they do the most in baseball?
The one thing that's constant besides they're pitching.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
They hit home runs and they strikeout. They strike out.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
They still lead the majors in strikeouts. What happened last night?
Fifteen up, fifteen down with the k like that. That's
who they are as a team. But here's the thing
that always bothers me with people. And we were talking
about this on the A team yesterday. Just because of
you have a trade deadline doesn't mean you can't be
making phone.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Calls in the middle of May.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
You could easily be picking up some picking up the
phone and going, hey, Pittsburgh, you're you're selling, You're fire sailing.
Besides everyone's besides Paul Skeens, what do you want for
Spencer Horties, What do you want for O'Neal Cruz?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Cincinnati?
Speaker 7 (21:30):
You have like nine different outfielders, What can we get
for Will Benson? And then you throw them in the
outfielding and throw them in the heart of your lineup
and then you start hitting. And that could be what
Seattle decides to do if they want to because if
they know that they're pitching is still gonna be one
of the best in baseball. They have some pieces there,
Like Big Dumper took a big dump last night in Houston.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
He was terrible.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
He had three strikeouts, and nobody's complaining about that here, but.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Like that's all you got.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
If you have to get another bat in there, and
you have a two and a half lead in the
division and you want to continue to have that lead,
you could make a phone call. The problem is Seattle
just doesn't care enough of the deadline. Houston at least tries.
We've seen Texas at least try. Seattle's like, hey, we're
that cool city that made Starbucks. We're right up top
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where everything's nice and easy. We're a homegrown feel Now
you're not. That's why you haven't been to the playoffs
more than once in the last twenty years.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Well, it's just I mean, I understand trusting your own guys.
Excuse me, I understand trusting your own guys, but I
mean it's also where you get to a point of
can we take that next step? And that's where you
know the Astros seemingly, I mean Carlos Gomez trade notwithstanding
have been able to pretty much hit on making those trades.
(22:43):
I mean, you make the Verlander trade. You don't win
in twenty seventeen without making that Verlander trade. And remember too,
that was an after the trade deadline deal. That was
when we still had the waiver trade deadline. So I
remember the deadline came and went, and you had Dallas
Kaiko in the clubhouse after it was passed saying, well,
I thought we're going.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
For this thing, Like what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (23:02):
Like, you know, we feel like this team has what
it takes to be able to win it all, And
I mean, we're not going forward here. And I mean
you even have kind of heard the same things in Seattle.
I mean, a guy's not even there anymore. Justin Turner
did a whole interview during spring training of saying like,
look like you've got the pitching, and you just make
no moves to be able to help out this offense. Like, hey,
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you know, Jerry Depoto, that's why we were not in
the playoffs last year is because we didn't hits.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
Well, that's why I get so frustrated with the Texans
right now when they don't go all in on investment.
I agree, he's blind because if you have a quarterback
on such a team friendly contract, you have all these
pitchers that are homegrown that you have built. I mean,
Brian Wood could be in the bullpen for all we know,
but he's done such a good job. He's your number
five starter most teams. He's a two if nine to
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one for really underwhelming performing pitching staffs. And that's your
five guy. And you're saying, oh, well, you know what
is that of trading away one of these guys. We're
just gonna go put them out there, six innings, nine strikeouts.
They're gonna have a whip combined of like one point
two to three. They're going to end up leading the
majors and starting er and we're gonna go eighty two
(24:12):
and eighty like that. Like that's the tradition in Seattle.
Great pitching, underwhelming offense, the same results, doesn't matter who
is the manager.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Yeah, it seems like it's rents to repeat. There's no
doubt about it. And I guess that's good for the
Astros because you're able to continue to stay competitive here
and hopefully be able to outlast them when it's all
said and done. But we will continue the conversation. One
thing that Billy did bring up though, was about the
lineup last night. I do want to get into that
on the other side, So we'll do that as we're
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a lot of people already you know, singing the praises
(26:21):
of him in Thompson, huge fans, I mean players and
the league alike, starting to realize how good this guy
can be.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
He improves on the offensive end, I e. From the outside,
I mean You're talking about a complete player that would
be an absolute find that the Rockets are able to
grab in that draft.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
So I don't agree with Ac on everything, but I
will agree he is the most untouchable player right now.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
I don't I do agree you know where I mean,
we talked about it when me and Ross were on
with Randy McAvoy on Sports Sunday on Channel two, and
I said that pretty much everybody else I'm willing to
listen on. But the funny thing is a close second
that I guarantee you in that building. It's the case
is Jalen Green.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Did you see the trade package that came out from
Bill Simmons a couple of days ago.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Yeah, for Jalen Brown.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Do you hate it?
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Because I personally am not the biggest fan of it,
mainly because of the Tara.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Easton package that comes with that.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
I just don't know how much you necessarily improve offensively.
I mean, he's a thirty two three point shooter, so
I mean that's pretty much right in line with what
you've been getting from the rest of this team. So
I just I don't think that it is like where
you know, the the Yiannis trade. If if you're able
to pull that off, then I'm like, Okay, I'm listening.
You're getting one of the best players in the league,
(27:36):
obviously one of the finalists for the MVP. But that's
one that I'm willing to really say, yeah, go hard
after that one.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
The reason I am at least tempted to listen to
it is because of Ema knows how to get the
best version out Jalen Brown.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Sure, and so I'm not afraid of that.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
That's yeah, that's not your top score that you pay
with the men, and that takes a lot of pressure
off of.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
A men Thompson.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
The other thing is, while you are losing Targe Easton's defense,
and while you are losing his role, Drew Holliday is
one of the better defensive players in the NBA, and
that keeps your window open, and it kind of advances
your window to where you have that veteran feel, you
have that leadership, You know that you have that intimidation
factor that is going to allow you to be able
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to go up against whether it be Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Whether it be against this this.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Oklahoma City team that right now feels unstoppable after the
way they played the last two games against Minnesota, whether
it be against Los Angeles, whether it be against whatever
happened to Golden State, who, for my money, just go
ahead and say, cyanar to all of those wonder years.
You're entering an area of where you're a playoff team,
nothing more, nothing less, going into the twilight of Seth
Curry's career, whatever happens with San Antonio. But at the
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same time, are you willing to give up that window
because the other thing is that you are benefiting and
you are helping out Boston a little bit because Boston
is gonna take a step back next year because they
lost their best player. Jason tan is probably not playing,
but they're gonna be fine when he comes back in
twenty twenty seven. Like when he's back, And then you
throw in Jabari Smith, and you throw in Tari Easton,
(29:05):
and there was one of the person forgot that was
in that trade package for Jalen I think.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Fred, Yeah Van Vliet was there.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
When you throw that in, then you're saying, Okay, Boston's
still going to be competitive. Houston's going to be competitive.
So it does feel like a win win scenario. But
this is also a person that says Jalen Brown and
Tyrese Haliburton are not overrated players and so far was
right last year with him one of the MVP in
the finals and what we're seeing from a guy in
Tyrese Haliburton. So maybe that's just my fandom of what
I've liked seeing Jalen Brown be as a complimentary number two.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Let him be that number one. Finally.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Yeah, I mean, it's gonna be an interesting offseason, no
doubt about it with the Rockets, and you know, just
to see if they are willing to be aggressive. I mean,
I know that Rafelstone did say that he would bet
on continuity with this team, but you know, doesn't mean
that you have to keep everyone.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
So we'll see what they decided to do there.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
The problem is is that when you say you're gonna
keep everyone, asking do you want the same results? Because
when you keep everyone, unless everyone is getting that much
more improved, this is what you are as a team
where you may be able to beat up on an
order veteran roster like Los Angeless or Golden State, but
you lose in the next round to a Minnesota Order
(30:16):
in Oklahoma City, your window is now attack for it.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
Well, I mean and you know that's the thing too
that could be a lesson learned in the NBA. I mean,
we've seen teams that it felt like they were employees
to be able to take that next step, and they
didn't really necessarily make the moves needed in order to
be able to ensure that could happen. And that's what
I want to guard against. I mean, I'm with you
on you know, just thinking that, oh, we can run
this thing back and it's gonna be much improved based
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off what I mean, these guys are going to take
just a marked improvement and a much improved step in
terms of the outside shot and being able to that's
being able to actually knock down threes with some regularity,
because that was a problem that you saw with this
team this year. The offensive les that this team would
go through or eventually what did them in the misfree
(31:02):
throws that's baked into it too, So like there were
a lot of offensive deficiencies that again kept you from
being able to move on and still play in the
NBA playoffs, and we saw that play out.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
They're a team that I still feel like has yet
to reach its potential. But I also feel like with
the current status of where the roster is. You're only
going to get to a certain level of that potential,
Like you're at about seventy five percent, and you need
to get to that one hundred. That one hundred says
second round of the playoffs. You need that enforcer. And
again I understand, I'm I'm pro, let's not give up
(31:36):
on Jalen Green for Giannis and watch and go to
Milwaukee and then average a triple double when he's in
the Eastern Conference when other opponents are going to be
going after Giannis. And maybe Giannis doesn't even want that deal,
but I do feel like there is something that needs
to be add to your roster.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
You need an efficient scorer.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
You need somebody on the back end that is going
to take pressure off of a mend when it comes
to shooting, that will add value in the three point range,
that will get we give you a number two at
least complimentary piece.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I don't know who that is, but I.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
Like what I'm hearing more when it comes to these
deals that are built around at Jalen Brown and Drew
Holliday more so than the Kevin Durant. Like I'm fully
out on the Kevin durant conversation. Anybody that wants to
bring it up with me, you automatically are done.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Yeah, And like I said, I mean, it's going to
be an offense to pay close attention to what the
Rockets decide to do in terms of bringing a lot
of these guys back, making a deal here or there,
maybe a free agent signing. But that's the fun of
the NBA offseason. We look forward to it. All right,
Let's get back into the Astros here as the offense
last night. Things that we absolutely love to see, things
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that we were asking for, pining for yesterday when Gordy
was in for you as so we will discuss that
here as we close out the d six o'clock hour
on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
We'll be talking all things and Major League Baseball with
him at here in a couple of hours. But one
thing that you know, I did tease and did want
to talk about is the Astros at the plate last
night and mentioned that every single Astro got a hit
except for eastcoc Pretis. So you put up thirteen of
them last night and a day removed from six strikeouts
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looking at twelve overall against the Rays. You cut that
number in half last night. And that was a massive
difference in this game because you get the bases loaded
there in the third inning and you got East soock
pretis and it looks like, oh, you know there's a
double play. Well, at least we'll get something out of this.
And luckily you got a little bit of a bobble
over there at third base. You get the out at
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second when close play there, he beats it out at first,
so it's able to continue the inning. You only have
one out at that point. But this is when I
feel like kind of the game flipped. Is the al
two at bat, runners on the corners with one out
and he hits the two strike opposite field sacrifice fly
that As soon as I saw him hit that, I
was like, Okay, that looks like a swing of a
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guy that's kind of starting to come out of this.
Because when you hit a ball like that the opposite way,
you're seeing it, well, you're connecting with well, you're doing
all those things. And I mean soon enough, a couple
more at bats, he's able to put a couple of
base balls over the wall. So It was nice to
see that from the perspective of not trying to do
too much and then also just simply put the ball
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in play. You put it in play, you give yourself
a chance. You don't put it in play, you don't
have a chance. And that was something that was a
little bit different nice to see last night out of
this Astros lineup, primarily Josel tuvaz So.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
I was at dinner last night and I was watching
as SGA was hoisting up the worst MVP trophy to
ever exist. It's just a terrible looking trophy. I don't
care what anybody says. And I remember watching basses loaded
and looking turn to Cares. I say, if they don't
score here, they don't deserve to win. Because of when
you have basses loaded against a pitcher that is coming
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off of a major injury and hasn't been on the
and basically is hitting reset after two months, you have
to take advantage of that. I agree with you at
that moment when you saw that fly ball the way
that it traveled and it was deep enough to where
you were able to score. Who was at Mauricio was
here on third at that point or was it was
it Cam Okay, so as Mauricio who came home, I
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felt more comfortable because that's the type of swing that
you want to see from Josel to be at thirty
five years old. It's deep enough to win, you have
runners in scoring position, it's gonna score, and it's also
got enough philosophy on the ball to where it could
drop and you get on base.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
And I will take that.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
And again, like you already brought this up, thirteen hits
last night, one none for Esac Prees. The only thing
like it was it wasn't a good Esac Pares game
because he also had an error in the matchup. Okay, whatever,
I will take that. If it means that I'm getting
a multi hit game from Yanu Diaz in the four hole,
if it means I'm getting a multi hit game for
Victor Karantieny, who's filling in right now is the left
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handed bat in place of jord On Alvaas, if I'm
getting at least one hit from Zach Decenzo or a
Camsmith or a du Bond who's playing at second, or
Brandon Rodgers for that matter, I will take that because
of it's showing you that there is more consistency with
this lineup and that they truly aren't that far off
in a division that is winnable. It very much is
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like like we're sitting here and we complain because of
as Astros fans, our brains are wired to believing we
are still the best in the American League, and we're not.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
And that's fine, but it is a winnable division.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
You're still two games above five hundred with mediocre play
against the Reds at times, with mediocre play against the Rangers,
with the inability to hit on Thursday and give run support.
The one hundred Brown beautiful performance and the way that
we saw them play in Tampa. What the hundred Brown
gaven Thursday night?
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Oh you talking about? Oh gotcha? Okay, I thought you
were talking about the most recent one.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Yeah, that was No.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
That's a game to where, look, we can talk about
one hundred having a six and four record. That's one
of the ones to where you say, okay, you give
up four runs and three long balls in the first
five innings, it's going to be a rocky path to
come back from deep fly balls that got out. I mean,
that was pretty much what it was. I mean, he
didn't help himself in the first inning. But then I
mean you also, you know, saw him be the beneficiary
(37:16):
of bad luck from the rays of I mean, seeing
some of those balls off the bat, I was like,
that would be a flyout at Dyking you mean, how
literally everywhere besides right field at Yankee Stadium and where
you play now, which is the Yankees Minor League ballpark.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
That's a home run shocker. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
So, I mean we've seen a lot of the frustrating
times with this lineup.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
I mean, and you know, Lord.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Knows I've documented them too, But I mean that kind
of got the night going. And then you get the
three run fourth inning there, of course, capped off with
the two run triple that Jeremy Payne was able to hit.
But then Altuve able to help out other guys able
to chip in, you know, Mauricio, excuse me, Jeremy Pania
chipping in again, you get Victor Karattini with an RBI.
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I mean, it just it was top to ball where
it just seems like this group has been so disjointed
at times this year, and that's been part of the frustration,
is that, Okay, you know, you start to get the
middle of the order guys going, and then you're not
getting anything out of the bottom of the order, where
you know recently you've been getting the bottom of the
order getting things going like six, seven, eight nine last night,
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three hits out of Victor Kartini, one from Jake Myers,
a hit from camp Smith, and then also a couple
of hits from Mauricio Dubon, And he was the guy
that broke the gates open for you to be able
to reel off more runs after that RBI single, to
be able to make it three two.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
But that's what you want to see from the bottom
of your lineup. But you also want to see from
the top of your lineup is that they have eight
combined hits from the one two three spot. That's the difference.
I'll take five or six hits from a MAURICEO. Myers
Dezenzo Smith combination as long as I'm getting seven or
eight hits from a pinga Parade is not two BA combination.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
Yeah, it's six hits last night from the first five
guys in the order. I mean, finally move Christian Walker
the cleanup spot. That was nice to see, but I
mean the results haven't necessarily translated.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
I'm given him one more game with the mustache. I
will give him one more game before we dude shave
the caterpillar, get rid of.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
That or even you know, soon enough, just go like
mullets maybe, I mean, just just find you gotta find something, man,
you gotta, you gotta, you know, almost become like Kevin
Costner's character and tin Cup of looking ridiculous on the
driving lump shops on top and didn't have you know,
as somebody that's like Romeo told them, because you're not
thinking about the doctor lady man.
Speaker 7 (39:33):
It's just something's gotta change. Because of again you are
seeing him. He's had what two hits in the last
two games, so okay, you move him out of the
four hole when he was oh of sixteen after getting
an RBI double on Saturday, he has two hits. Can
we get something going in that five spot.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
It'd be nice to see.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
I mean, he's kind of the last part of all
of this with this Astros batting order this year, so
hopefully you can start to see Christian Walker put it
all together. Yin or Di has a couple of hits
last night, although I mean he still had some of
those at bats early on in the game where I'm
just like, dude, we're in game fifty one now away.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Why are you swinging so far to the outside.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
It's just like I said, it's it's been frustrating to
you know, say the least with how Yaner Diaz has
approached some of his at bats, because it's not only that,
it's just it's also too of taking the pitch that
he should be ambushing, which is a fastball that's middle in,
and it's just like, no, that's the pitch.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
You just missed your pitch.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
That's why they are able to get you to start chasing,
and you're you're doing it, so obviously the book is
out there on you.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Hey, you're giving them free target prackets.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
That's what it is, I mean, And that's what it's
been for him for much of the season. As Yeah,
like I mentioned, he gets a couple of hits last
night two thirty one. Now with the six twenty four
ops for Yiner Diaz. All right, it's uh mentioned it
about Lance mccullors and just how important that performance was
last night. It'll be even more important going forward. We'll
discuss that. Start seven the clock hour here does the
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Speaker 6 (41:45):
Four and a third, eight strikeouts from Lance McCullers, Junior
Renel Blanco on the il with elbow inflammation, Gonna seek
a second opinion and a men. Thompson named the NBA's
All Defensive First Team for the twenty twenty four twenty
five season seven one three, two, one two five seven
ninety The number two get In talked about a little
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bit of mccullor's performance last night. And this is after
we get you know, Jospota in the dugout before the
game saying second opinion all of that, which we'll just
start there.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
Cole.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
I mean if what does that mean?
Speaker 6 (42:21):
Well, I mean and and and that's That's where I'm going,
is that you know, I heard Ross mention this last
night's on the pregame show that if you got what
you wanted to hear in the first opinion, well then
you're not going to seek a second opinion. So it's
just whenever people do this and teams do this, and
I get it too. I mean, look, maybe there is
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the outlier of they'll be like, oh, no, rest, recuperation,
he'll be fine, you know, just just keep keep them
from throwing for you here for a few weeks and
then you can give it another shot here in about
a month. But it just feels like you're delaying the
inevitable when you do that. It's like, why not if
you already have a good idea of how this is
going to play out, just go ahead and start the
CLA man.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
If he plays again this year, which again big if
minimum August In my opinion, minimum is August when we'll
see him back after the All Star break. He's gonna
have to go through a couple of rehab stants, he's
gonna be on rest for the next month, not even
picking up a baseball. That's if, and again that's you
looking at it from the positive side of things. Here's
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the other problem with it. If you wait too long,
you're keeping him out for longer than a year, because
if he's getting TJ surgery, or if he's get going
underneath the knife in say July or August, he's not
pitching in twenty twenty six, he's not gonna be back
in time for you.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
And so you really wasted two months of what.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
Could have been recovery to where maybe he would have
been back in June of next year, July, right before
the All Star Game, but it would have given you
another arm, and an arm that probably would have added
tremendous value in a race to winning the Pennant. Once again,
you shut yourself in the foot because if you wanted
that second opinion, that second opinion that you're getting better,
come with bit of upside and presence and joy and
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that there is a serendipity shot in the dark that
he is gonna pitch again at some point in a
run to the postseason. Because if not one hundred percent
agree with you, you have got to stop delaying the inevitable.
You did this with Hayden was an esky, and I
get it. You wanted to make sure that everything was
crossed off for you. Had to get him underneath the knife.
But at least you said, we're not gonna put him
back out there this year. He's not gonna pitch anymore.
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Let's get him into surgery. Let's make sure that he's
ready for twenty twenty six. Do that, we'll run out Blanco.
If you have that second opinion, and even if you
have the shredded out up, maybe it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
Maybe it's not.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
Well, I mean, it's just it's I just I think
you're kidding yourself at a certain point, because when it
comes to elbows, shoulders, I'm not necessarily as concerned. I mean,
unless you know it's rotator cuff, it's labrohm and stuff
like that, then of course, yeah, you're gonna be done.
But I mean when you have elbow issues like this
or forearms, that's what I'm immediately like, it's a long
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shot at best that you're coming back. And it's not
only that, it's you know, the for me, like mentally,
I'm already preparing myself that you're not going to have
him the rest of the season. I mean, it's if
you're doing this and you know, yesterday we have Dana
Brown on and he said, oh, we'll have an update
later on the afternoon.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
That to me is me and Gordy talked about afterwards.
Speaker 6 (45:20):
That raised my INTENTNA because if it's good news, well
then you want to shout it from the rooftops, right
of saying like, hey, you know what, we feel like
we we dodged something here, you know, met with the doctor.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Things looking good.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
We'll talk about a little bit later on this afternoon,
but we're feeling good. We feel like we're still going
to see Renel Blanco. Back in twenty twenty five, Cole,
we didn't get that.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
But is that data thing?
Speaker 7 (45:37):
Like, is that just a data thing. Let's just wait
until we get all the media around. He'll be he'll
be transparent, Yes he is.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
He is probably one of the very few executives that
you ask him a question, he'll give you a direct response.
And I do appreciate that about it.
Speaker 7 (45:52):
So then that that should have been the sign right
then and there. Okay, it's not good news, Like I'm
not saying that it was season ender. I'm not saying
that you're to put him under the knife. But that
was a sign guaranteed he is not pitching anytime soon.
He's probably not pitching till after the All Star break.
And now we have.
Speaker 5 (46:07):
To look at two things.
Speaker 7 (46:08):
Number one, what does our farm system look like with
a lot of these younger guys, the AJ Blue Blue
bas the Ryan Gustos. You know, you just brought up
what's his name who just started on Wednesday? Why am
I blanking on Brandon Walter? Brandon Walter? There you go, yeah,
Walter White, because yeah, that guy, he's back up it
they end.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
Up not working out.
Speaker 7 (46:27):
The question that I have is when do you start
making that phone call to another organization to go bring
in another starting pitcher.
Speaker 6 (46:34):
Because the windows right now so open to well, it's
it's not only that it's still open. I mean I
think the problem with that is it's still early enough
where you're not going to have teams that are going
to really feel compelled to make a move because I
mean they look at it. I mean, let's just take
the Angels for example, not saying that you would trade
with the Angels, but that's also a team that is
what five games out of first at this moment, but
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they also they are three games back right now, so
I'm I mean for the Angels, they look at it.
And say, therefore, excuse me, but you get my point.
I mean, they're not completely out of this thing right now.
So I mean you've got teams like them, the Rays.
I mean they're seven games back. I don't think the
Rays necessarily believe that they're going to be contenders this year.
But you still got good arms there. So the point
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being is that you have teams that are saying, hey,
you know, give us a shout. In about a month,
maybe we'll talk with you, maybe even a couple of months.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
Then we're willing to talk with you.
Speaker 6 (47:25):
Because you do start to see teams fall back and
they don't look like that they are going to be
able to make that run to get back into this thing,
and then that's when they start being receptive to your calls.
Speaker 7 (47:34):
Rag Getty is going to have to go through basically
a second spring training. You don't know when you're getting back.
Grown out, block out, Hayden wasz Nesky is going to
be out for the rest of the year. That's three
pitchers from your opening weeks starting rotation that are out.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
I think of it in this way.
Speaker 7 (47:49):
It's a thirty day period, thirty day window, just like
the transfer portal you got thirty days figure out what
is your next course of action. In those thirty days,
I better have an answer on what does the rest
of my rotation look like? Do I feel good about Gusto?
Do I feel good about Walter? Do I feel good
about having Atlance mccullors give me five strong? What am
I getting from from ber? What am I getting from
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Hunter Brown? Who is maybe stepping on up from the
bullpen side of things? Because of that point, if I'm
still three or five games over five hundred, if I'm
still in the hunt for the American League West title,
if I'm still right there alongside with Texas and right
alongside with Seattle, and maybe I'm even ahead of them
a little bit, but I know that I need that
extra arm that can be my number three consistent, six
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ending strong.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
That's where I'm making a phone call.
Speaker 7 (48:34):
And sometimes the beauty of what is when it comes
to scouting is when you have a knack and a
knowledge of understanding what you're looking for, you sometimes are
able to swindle a deal and get a Cole Reagan's
out of it the way they can't stay.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
Dad with Texas well, and it's you know, how good
is your scouting department in terms of being able to
evaluate not only your own guys. But then you know,
it's you call a team and you ask about somebody, Hey,
why are they asking about him? Well, they're asking about
him because of this. There's certain team that have that reputation.
The Astros are one of them. The Rays were that
team forever of you know, you traded away Chris Archer.
Speaker 5 (49:06):
What the hell are you doing?
Speaker 6 (49:07):
And then you see the risk, you know, the package
they get back in return of you know, you get, yeah,
you get you get Glass now I mean you get
Jake Bowers. I mean just a really good package back.
And Chris Archer fell off the face of the planet.
So like, right as soon as he touched down in
Pittsburgh's career was over. Well, that happens to a lot
of people, but like even quarterback situation. But and you know,
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it's it's having now to count on somebody that you
know is here and somebody that you hope is here.
Who you know is here is Lance mccullor's junior, right,
And this is the thing that I have cautioned people
against ever since there was even belief that mccullor's is
gonna be on a moundain this year is I said
him pitched in two years, guys, So I understand you
want to see immediate results. You want to see him
get back to what we believe Lance mccullor's junior can be.
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But as we've seen from these first what four starts
that he's made, it's showing you that those two years
are still causing a little bit of a build up
for you.
Speaker 7 (50:01):
If you got last night's performance of Lance mccolors fifteen
times this year, how would you.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
Feel feel great about it?
Speaker 6 (50:06):
Because I think eventually he is going to be able
to get out of the fifth and then maybe even
be able to get you into the sixth inning, which
are things that you hope for with him. The good
and the bad with Lance is he's got a ton
of movement, all right. Well, he can get a lot
of swing and miss. The bad is well, he can
also walk a lot of guys, and he walked three
of them last night.
Speaker 7 (50:23):
So if you give me one extra walk, one extra run,
one extra strikeout for one extra ending, so I'm getting
five and a third. I'll take that because if as
long as my offense is able to be combative, as
long as it's able to hit with drunders in scoring position.
And I'm watching the way that my bullpen has performed,
especially in the first fifty three games of the season.
Speaker 5 (50:43):
I feel really good.
Speaker 7 (50:45):
About the trajectory of a pitcher that hasn't been on
the mound in two years.
Speaker 5 (50:49):
He's only going to improve.
Speaker 7 (50:51):
And again, I agree with you that movement on the
ball is sometimes a negative because it leads to a
lot of outside pitches that will lead to good walks,
that will put runners on base, and it puts you
in situations to where, now, if you're Joe's body, you
have to decide how many more pitches am I gonna
give him? But I'll take five and a third, seven strikeouts,
three earned runs and four walks if that means I
get good play for my bullpen.
Speaker 8 (51:11):
Well.
Speaker 6 (51:12):
And the you know what we don't know is are
you going to see Christian Hobvier sometime this year? Sure,
you get woe was it like a week two ago
that he threw fifteen pitches off a mount in West
Palm Beach. I mean, I'm not trying to, you know,
hurry somewhat up here, but I mean I think the
fact that again, not getting good news where you're not
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getting Hey, he threw again, all right, soon enough, he's
gonna throw in a SIM game, all right, he's gonna
throw in a lower level game down here in the
Florida Gulf Coast League, whatever it might be. I mean,
you're getting none of those things right now, and that
to me signals that, well, you're not going to be
able to count on him this season, and that's discouraging.
Speaker 7 (51:49):
You know how they say no news is good news.
You ever heard that saying not with pitchers now? So
when I hear second opinion, that's the kiss of death
on that. Like, to me, that is just straight up
that's that's even a worse not getting good newde like
the Gang. It's just it's it's also too.
Speaker 6 (52:03):
I mean, you know you're you're sending them to your
team doctors, right, So if you don't trust what your
team doctor is saying, then what are you doing? I mean,
it's who I mean, and who knows what the diagnosis was.
Maybe the doctors said, hey, you know, I'm thinking it's this,
but you might want to consult someone else.
Speaker 5 (52:18):
I mean, maybe that does happen.
Speaker 6 (52:20):
But it's like you hire these people because you believe
that they are the best.
Speaker 7 (52:24):
Right, I'm like doctor Cox, throwing my head against the banister,
screaming into it whenever I here, Oh second, opigion from
an outside noise? What is your regular doctor not seeing
in this prognosis to where we got to go to
an outside dude to just tell us what we already know.
Speaker 6 (52:39):
Well, it just seems like you're delaying the inevitable at
a certain point and the astros. We'll see if indeed
this does have a happy ending to the story. But
me and you both have our doubts and probably seems
like Renel Blanco is doing it for the twenty twenty
five season.
Speaker 5 (52:54):
But hopefully we're wrong.
Speaker 6 (52:55):
Look, I have no problem being wrong, especially in situations
like this. You can give me wrong game. I mean,
I mean, not so much me, but you know, I
try to never be wrong. But if I am, look
I'll own up to it. So that's just the transparency
I try to deliver for all of you out there,
for you, the people.
Speaker 5 (53:15):
As we continue.
Speaker 6 (53:16):
Here on the Shawn Salisbury Show, a Michigan father and
son say they saw something.
Speaker 5 (53:21):
Oh my god, I hope this is true. Please make
this true.
Speaker 6 (53:25):
As we will talk about that here as we get
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Do you believe in Bigfoot? Cole Thompson, Yes, I do.
What makes you believe in Bigfoot? I know it's out there.
Speaker 5 (54:25):
I believe in now.
Speaker 7 (54:26):
I believe in aliens, the Locknus Monster, everything that has
ever been reported. I guarantee you someone actually saw it. See,
so you believe?
Speaker 8 (54:33):
All right?
Speaker 6 (54:33):
So I talked about these. I talk about this all
the time with teams of teams. Hope they can win,
as opposed to teams that believe they can win. I'm
in the hope phase of this because this is where
my skepticism comes in. If it's real or in the
case of bigfoots, I mean, you have encounters supposedly in
the Midwest, in the Northwest, you know, you know, on
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the east coast, like for example, the station I used
to work out, we used to do shows in western
North Carolina. Sure, and you go through some of these
small towns and the Appalacha right there, you go, you go,
and I remember, and I can't remember what small town
it was that. I think it was in northeast Georgia.
But they had a Bigfoot shop and I think even
a makeshift museum of people who have claimed to have
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seen Bigfoot there in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountain.
Speaker 7 (55:22):
My people, those I guarantee you I was driving through
to get to Charlotte, and I stopped off in that town.
I would make sure that we made a detour to
go and see that museum, because I'm fully invested in.
Speaker 5 (55:31):
It, whether or not it's real.
Speaker 7 (55:33):
The thing with me is that I have the hope
that there is something greater out there and I want
to have that feeling for whatever I have kids that
that is the beliefs.
Speaker 6 (55:43):
Like, isn't there supposedly in like the remote woods of
Tennessee supposed to be like this like indigenous group of
people that they're cannibals and they don't speak English, like
whatever it is. And like people have said, you know,
said to have had encounters with them, which that's creepy enough.
Speaker 7 (55:59):
And yeah, like there's that family that is the most
inbred family in West Virginia. And I'm like, no, that's
the most inbred family that you know of.
Speaker 5 (56:07):
That he took it in a direction I was not
hoping to go here. That is gross beyond belief, all right.
Speaker 6 (56:12):
So a father and son on a fishing trip in
Michigan reported a close encounter with who they thought was Bigfoot.
They were out with their dog when all of a sudden,
they're walking through the woods and they hear just this
massive thump. The dad Edward writing, I was bowfishing today
with my son.
Speaker 5 (56:31):
Around eleven thirty.
Speaker 6 (56:32):
We walked down Plum Creek past four Bridges, which is
a railroad bridge. I guess headed into the marsh. One
hundred yards into the marsh, the dog scared something up
that was bedded there. The trees were shaking. We thought
it was a group of deer. We continued for about
two hundred more yards into the marsh, heading back through
the cattails, we observed a lot of deer beds and
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heard some sirens in the distance. So Ed decided to
pull out his phone as earbuds and pull up the
police scanner app to find out what was going on.
His son and dog both behind him. They heard rustling
in the trees and a huge thud hitting the ground
From the trees, A huge, heavy animal hit the ground,
crouched and started moving towards me through the brush. My
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dog fired off to the right of me towards the creature.
Dog almost got to it, but the creature shot off
extremely fast through the trees and brush, and the dog
chased it up the slope and over the train tracks.
So he then called for his dog to come back.
He said, his son said to him, holy crap, what
was that. It was as big as a bear, but
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looked like a gorilla. We walked back. We heard something
crunching in the ground behind us, and we left so
saying that it was.
Speaker 5 (57:47):
Big as a bear.
Speaker 6 (57:48):
Like immediately too, where again hoping like would love to
actually like that this has happened. But again the skepticism
of all of the cameras, of all of the people
that are out there, like, how do we not have
anything that's more more than a grainy you know, footage
from Montana years ago of what people think it's bigfoot.
And then there's also people that believe that somebody just
put on a gorilla suits and said, hey, here, let
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me have some fun.
Speaker 7 (58:10):
See you said bear, and you said moves like the
size of a gorilla. Immediately my brain went to Al Gore,
Man bear Pig south Park, which.
Speaker 6 (58:18):
I want to be sure, and I know it's been
it's been years for me for south Park, so you're
probably gonna have to you know, you're gonna have to
unroll that for so Man bear Pig is basically a
terminology that al Gore used at a time when talking
about global warming, and South Park decided to take it
to a new extreme where literally they created a man
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bear pig hybrid that they threw in an episode called
Imagination Land and it became a reality and al Gore,
who was in love with the fact that South Park
made fun of him was like fully invested in, and
so then they created a whole new character of it.
But like it's the size of a bear, it moves
like a man, but it sounds like a pig. The
way you described it was main bear pig, not Bigfoot.
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So maybe like we're talking about some sort of like
government psyop. Heare that, like you know, they've made like
a bear into something else.
Speaker 5 (59:09):
That sasquatch is Or isn't that what Bigfoot is?
Speaker 7 (59:12):
Just a very bad experiment gone wrong that you throw
into the wild.
Speaker 5 (59:16):
No, it could be.
Speaker 6 (59:17):
I mean, you know, look, I'm not one to shy
away from conspiracy theories. Like you know, when I was younger,
I was like, you know, oh man, you know, conspiracy
theories they're for wackos. But then you know, soon enough
some of them started coming true. So then you're like, well,
I can't really you know it, dispute them anymore. But
in this case, I mean again, I'm in the hope
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you're in the belief. Like Elon Musk has said numerous
times that he doesn't believe that UFOs are real. No,
they're real, And people will then respond of saying that's
somebody who is an alien that's exactly what they would say.
Speaker 5 (59:51):
But I loved his line. They sure are subtle.
Speaker 7 (59:53):
Well okay, like I truly believe tilta Swinton from the
line of the Witch in the world. Unless the only
think I know are from or from Doctor Strange. That's
an alien like that is a legit alien that is
living amongst us. By the way that she acts, the
way that she talks, that is what I envision them
breaking onto this earth.
Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
And I'm okay with calling her out on that one.
She looks like one.
Speaker 6 (01:00:13):
It's like in Men in Black, you know. Yeah, I
had the second grade teacher. Man, we thought she was
from Mars, miss so and so, yeah, she was from
Jupiter like that.
Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
Like I love stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (01:00:22):
Like have you ever heard the story about Richard Nixon
and Jackie Leeson with aliens? No, so apparently they got
bombed one night, like they're just drinking like crazy and
that Nixon with his good buddy, goes, hey, you want
to see some crazy stuff? Like that's one of those
that you know, you could either look at it two fold.
I was thinking about this last night when I heard
the story again, is that you could look at it
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as hey, I've got a friend that can see some things,
and he's asking me if I want to see some
crazy stuff?
Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
Hell yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
But then it also is the other part, how good
of a friend is that? Because then this friend could
be showing it to these things and then he tells
whoever you know, Cia and say, whoever it is, Hey,
he knows too much.
Speaker 7 (01:01:02):
No, that's like, that's like the last shot line that
I go about. You're on that line of do you
want another sip of whiskey?
Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
You do it?
Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
You do a shot. If you do it, it's like
the matrix. You're going in Yogo see some weird stuff.
So you take either the red pill. I guess case
you do take the red pill. You either take the
shot or you go home. And that's the line is that, Hey,
you wants you some crazy stuff? Do you take the shot?
If you take it, you don't know what to expect next.
If you don't, you're going home and you're just you're
never wondering about it again.
Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
So we actually did go up to as far as
you can get close to Area fifty one in Nevada once,
and all you can really do is go up to
this It's not even a fence. It's just a sign
that says I don't even remember what it said, but
I think it pretty much told you you coming any
further than God help you.
Speaker 7 (01:01:48):
Do you remember when they had that what was it
twenty seventeen where they were going to try to raid
Area fifty one.
Speaker 6 (01:01:53):
There was a Facebook message great, yeah, that people were
going to try to run like Dragon ball Z characters
or whatever to get through, and it's just like, yeah,
that's that's not gonna work. There's some people who wonder,
now if you know, the government's using remote viewing, which
is basically like people being seances that can see like
other parts of the world like at any given time,
which I would love to believe that that's the case.
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If that is the case, is it trainable because I'd
be willing to do that.
Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
What do you believe that pigeons are cameras?
Speaker 6 (01:02:20):
I mean there are people who will say, you know,
birds are not real. They stop being real back in
the sixties. I mean that's something that maybe see I
believe birds are real. Did anybody did anybody look at
the pigeon that Randy Randy Johnson shattered, you know, just
completely obliterated.
Speaker 7 (01:02:35):
Like that's what I'm talking about, like it's it's not birds,
it's pigeons, because I don't remember seeing pigeons back in
the day, but guess what, nineteen sixty worlds around, pigeons
are everywhere.
Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
What would be the reason for that? What's the reason,
Dan Matthews. No, it's interesting.
Speaker 6 (01:02:50):
But like with Area fifty one, like you know, if
I went back now, I would kind of hope that,
like I don't know if they if they do have
alien craft and like they're flying it around, that they
would like fly it like a little bit off their
flight path and be like, oh my god, Like they
honestly just need to mess with people when they do that,
Like just put up drones that look like they could
be UFOs and just.
Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
Fly them around. Dude, I'm telling you.
Speaker 7 (01:03:11):
Area fifty one, I think at this point is just
a scare tactic. Like all the all the government evidence
of aliens existing, it's somewhere in like Butte, Montana or
something like that.
Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
See, that's just it. Like it's like Area fifty one.
Speaker 6 (01:03:23):
You almost feel like is like what Fort Knox is,
Like you know, hey, all the gold's there, all the
gold's not there. No, But that's just it like it's
just like, hey, where's where's the where's the black ops
site that we don't know about?
Speaker 7 (01:03:36):
Just send your least likely friend to ever see again,
just because they ran off into something else to Area
fifty one. Tell them to go touch the building they
come back, guess what they survived, because they're going to.
I promise you it's a scare tactic with Area fifty one.
Speaker 6 (01:03:49):
No, maybe they just they take you in and they
feed you to the aliens. What a way to go out,
though they know that actually be one of the worst
ways of all the ways to go you know, drowning,
falling off a building, something like that. I would probably say,
being eaten alive by something is right up there.
Speaker 7 (01:04:07):
Oh alive, I would. But what if they just see
you one bite? What if it's like what if it's
like Jurassic Park, like.
Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
You didn't even necessarily see it coming? No, you know,
just clever girl, boom out. That's one way to look
at it.
Speaker 6 (01:04:20):
I guess if you don't necessarily see it come and
the lights go out and you're just like, oh man,
what the hell just happened?
Speaker 7 (01:04:26):
Well maybe, well I'm also one of those people that
wants to go on a blaze of glory like in
the war battles, like like I'm one of those when
you see that that three hundred scene. I want to
be a Leonio this last man standing.
Speaker 6 (01:04:36):
That's the way I want to just take on a
throng of arrows coming at you, fire away.
Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
All right, Well that's Cole Thompson for you.
Speaker 6 (01:04:42):
I guess we will continue here on the Sean Salisbury
Show Sports Talk seven ninety. You want to get into
a little bit more on the Astros hitters, because I
will caution fans on this. If you really want this
wish granted, then you better not complain if it becomes
that's true, and I'll explain what I mean right here
on Sports Talk seven to ninety.
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For The Sewn Salisbury Show continues. Yesterday, I was watching,
you know, before the Astros. It was a early afternoon
game and the Yankees are taking on the Rangers, and
I saw that those on TV, so I was like, okay, fine, yeah,
I'll watch. You know, it's something to be able to
fall asleep to for the mid mid afternoon nap. And
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it's also you know, see how the Rangers do if
the Astros are able to hopefully gain some ground on them.
Speaker 7 (01:07:00):
By the way, I'm jealous that you can actually take
a midday nap. It's is it is a nice perk.
Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
I'm not gonna lie like it's it's being able to
be finished here at ten, you know, do whatever I
need to do up here, and then head home and
be able to nod off for about an hour or so.
It's it's definitely nice any and you want to make
sure too, like that's one thing that I learned a
long time ago. Somebody had taught me this doing morning radio.
They said your naps about an hour. Yeah, well what
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if I only slept like four hours? You want to
not throw off your sleep schedule, so then maybe you'll
be tired when nine o'clock rolls around, and you can
get a good seven hours and.
Speaker 7 (01:07:37):
Feel good the next No, I'm just jealous that you
can take naps in general. It doesn't matter if it's
a midday nap or a four PM I can't now right.
Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
I am when i'm up. I am up until i'm out.
Speaker 6 (01:07:48):
If I'm tired, I am not going to fight it.
If I'm tired and I have the ability, I'm just
gonna let nature take its course.
Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
See.
Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
I need my brain to finally start listening to my
body and say stop having ideas at three in the morning,
just go to sleep, because that's where my brain is
at three in the afternoon.
Speaker 6 (01:08:04):
They have things for that. In some cases it's legal,
some cases it's not. I mean, I'm just I'm not
here to judge. I'm not here to tell you to
go one way or the other. I'm just telling you that,
you know, they got things for that. I got too
much railing around some of my brain down, see, and
that's what's that's what's always funny too. And I'll get
to my example here for the Astros in a second,
is don't you love that like when you're trying to
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go to sleep and then like you have things like
that that happen, or you go down a rabbit hole
on social media, whatever it might be, that you're just like,
couldn't I do this at any other time?
Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
Like? Why? Why?
Speaker 15 (01:08:35):
Is?
Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
Why is there all of a sudden yearning to do
this right now?
Speaker 7 (01:08:39):
Like here since sent me a video yesterday that said,
when you say good night, you don't actually mean good night.
One of you is going to sleep and the other
one is staying up on TikTok reels until two am. Yep,
why am I the one that is the ladder? Is
my only question? Yeah, it's it's Megan for that.
Speaker 6 (01:08:53):
She she's the one that like, as soon as I'm
like all right, you know, see you in the morning,
which I mean I'm up in the morning, right, you know,
she's the dogs are too.
Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
But anyway, so I'm watching the game day.
Speaker 6 (01:09:04):
And the Yankees beat the Rangers won the nothing, and
it immediately got me thinking of, oh, the Rangers did
what some Astros fans have wanted them to do, and
that's get rid of Alex sent Trome, Troy Snicker, whoever,
and just switch up the offensive staff here for your
hitting coach. And they did that a few weeks ago
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when they let go of their offensive coordinator who I
can't remember. His name doesn't matter, but they bring in
Brett Boone, right, does matter. So they did it during
the Red Sox series. And in that Red Sox series,
they scored six runs against the Red Sox in the
very first game, they scored for the night following, and
then they got shut out the next game. Then they
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went to Detroit one run, they put up ten runs,
six runs, won both of those games, two runs against
the Rockies, four against the Rockies eight and we swept
that series. One against the Astros, three in a loss,
five in a win, three in a loss. And then
they go to New York and they score two runs
at three runs and no runs yesterday to get swept.
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And that's where I'm looking at it and saying, Okay,
I get, you know, thinking that maybe there needs to
be a new voice that you know, just the approaches
aren't improving. You've got the guys that are supposed to
be hitting they're not hitting. And you know, the Rangers
are also pretty similar with the Astros, where they don't
have Corey Seeger right now, he's kind of the straw
starts to drink offensively for them. The Astros don't have
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Jordan Alvarez. All of those things kind of bake in.
But it just also again, whenever people something's not going right,
fire the coaches. Oh you know, fire the OC like
let be hosty you. I was kind of surprised that
Bobby Slowak was fired this year. I thought that he
was going to get at least an opportunity to be
able to make good on it. But clearly enough Dmiko
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Ryans and c. J. Stroud whoever else, they just didn't
feel like that he was the right guy for the job.
Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
So they moved on.
Speaker 6 (01:10:55):
Okay, fine, but it's also now you've made that.
Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
Now you've ring that bell.
Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
There's a reason in football why coaches get an opportunity
to flip their coordinators. And then after that you've got
if it's the college level, you've got your administration. If
it's the pro level, you got the owner looking at
you saying, well, now it's on you, dude. Now you
did it. So with the Astros. Okay, fine, you make
that move, but what the hell tells you that anything
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is going to be marked improvement in terms of what
you've already been getting. The answer for me is, look,
I'll go with who I know and maybe after the
season you can have those discussions and make those evaluations.
But you just making a change does not mean that
this thing is going to completely turn around.
Speaker 7 (01:11:39):
My personal belief is bearing a complete and total destruction.
I mean the way that Colorado's playing right now, the
way that Pittsburgh's playing right now. Coaching staffs are meant
to be changed at the end of the year. When
you enter the year, you have to give them one
hundred and sixty two games to figure out what is
the identity of this team, and afterwards then you can
figure out what needs to change for us to get
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to that next level. But I think it's dumb when
you have an entire offseason to make the necessary changes,
to think that you are trending downwards, to think that
there is not a laundry list of evidence that backs
up your claim of this isn't working. This is what
needs to change, This is what we're seeing that hasn't
been going in our favor to where you're saying, oh, well,
now we're going to make the firing in the middle
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of June. You don't know what you're going to get
on the opposing side. And I'm not agreeing with you
that I'll take what I already know. But what I
am saying is is that what I know right now
is better than maybe thinking that it's going to get better,
because in my opinion, it always gets worse before it
gets better. So it's mediocre right now, it's going to
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get dreadful before you actually get back to mediocre.
Speaker 6 (01:12:44):
Well, and you know, the Rangers, I mean that's you know,
kind of in the same vein as the Astro has
been getting really good pitching. It's just the hitting has
not been there, and they've had their issues with runners
in scoring position. The Astros obviously did not last night.
You hope that that's something that maybe might be a
little bit of a leaf turn for them, But I
mean still, you know, when you look at the overall numbers, yeah,
I mean, you've had it down year so far from
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you on your dias. You've had same from Christian Walker
before the hand injury. It was the same deal with
Jordan Alvarez. Hopefully you get him back here pretty soon.
But I mean again, it's just it's not bad enough
for me to look at it and say, oh, wholesale
changes are needed, because then it becomes reactionary. And then
when you become a reactionary, you don't have a foundation
underneath you to necessarily guard against. Okay, if this thing
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gets even worse, then it's people looking at everybody else
in the building saying, Okay, well, then what does that
say about you?
Speaker 7 (01:13:34):
Look maybe it's because if I went into this year
thinking that Houston was going to be a playoff team,
nothing more, nothing less.
Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
That's just what I said.
Speaker 7 (01:13:41):
And it's not to be disrespectful thinking that there are
other teams out there that can be competitive, But I
just look at it as they're a playoff team. They
can still be a playoff team in this division with
the way they're hitting right now, because if they currently
are only two gains back, I'm not gonna make that change.
Speaker 5 (01:13:56):
And I didn't think that they were going to be
anything more.
Speaker 7 (01:13:58):
So why am I going to hope that they could
regress to only get better when I can go into
the offseason and make the changes that will keep them
in the same conversation that we're having right now, if
not a better one.
Speaker 6 (01:14:08):
Major League Baseball. We talked about this a little bit yesterday.
They've already had discussions with somebody, but somebody else I
would absolutely run away from this idea. We'll talk about
it here to close out the seven o'clock hour.
Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
Don't forget.
Speaker 6 (01:14:20):
Eric Krat's gonna join us from Foul Territory TV at
nine o'clock right here on Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
We want to wait.
Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
Someone three two, one two five, seven ninety. Could Apple
TV be even more of a presence on your MLB coverage.
We'll discuss that here in at just a second, But
first Shina wants to weigh in.
Speaker 5 (01:14:47):
Good morning, Sheena, Hi, good morning.
Speaker 10 (01:14:51):
Just a couple of comments on things that have been
talked about through the morning. You know, going back to
what y'all have talked about with the coaching, I think
it's really hard for you know, fans when they're yelling
at we need a coaching change to judge what's going
on really behind the scene.
Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
There's only so much coaching can do.
Speaker 10 (01:15:07):
You can tell, you know, going back to an issue
that hasn't been as present this season. But just as
an easy example, Penya's swinging constantly at that slider that went,
you know, off the plate outside. It's like you can
constantly tell him.
Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
Not to do that.
Speaker 10 (01:15:21):
But when he's got you know, just a split second
to recognize the pitch and decide to lay off of it,
actually putting that into action, it's like completely different story.
And I think you also need to give our hitting
coaches the credit that they deserve. It's like Penya is
having a breakout ear Myers is having a breakout year.
We've seen some better at bats from cam Smith lafe late.
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We've seen some better at bats from McCormick lately. As
far as Altuve, Altuve has always been a streaky hitter
and always will be a streaky hitter. Just need to
give him some time to climb out of it. So
so that's my opinion on that. I also wanted to
go back to something y'all were talking about earlier with
Blanco in the second opinion. So to me, the second
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opinion is, yeah, we know he needs Tommy John, we
know he's got this issue with his elbow. But there
are a few you know, star surgeons and experts when
it comes to Tommy John, and you do have the
two types of Hommy Tommy John. You have the hybrid
that has the faster recovery and then you've got you know,
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your traditional Tommy John. You also have what I think,
you know, not knowing I think all the information. But
what I think Garrett Cole did last year with he
had some elbow issues, he took some conservative measures and
came back and I think made five starts last year
including postseason, and then you know, the issue wasn't solved
obviously and had to have Tolby John this year. But
it was a way to delay the process which might
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not be bad for the Astros if you could, you know,
have Blanco out for a little while, get him back
a little bit, and delay Tommy John until.
Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
You know, say Javier gets back. You know, somebody gets back.
Speaker 10 (01:16:58):
So I think you know to me that that's what
the second opinion is is we know he has this issue.
Speaker 5 (01:17:03):
Yeah, No, I appreciate the call, Sheena.
Speaker 6 (01:17:05):
I mean, I just I think that it's for me
and you know, I wasn't aware of that. In terms
of the two dis points, No for sure, but I
mean it's just if if you already have a good
idea that that is going to be the course of
action you have to take, then what are we even
talking about at a certain point, Like you're just wasting time?
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I mean it's it's a week or so or a
few days, that's I get all of that.
Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
I mean, you know, talked with Dana Brown.
Speaker 6 (01:17:31):
You say Hayden was Nesky hasn't even undergone his operation,
and once that happens, it's what a year to fourteen
months or however long it takes for him to be
able to get back. So probably about mid season next
year is when you can hope to have Hayden was
a Nesky back in the fold.
Speaker 5 (01:17:45):
All right. Good.
Speaker 7 (01:17:45):
The one thing that I completely disagree with Sheena on
is when she said they're waiting for Christian Javier to
come back.
Speaker 5 (01:17:53):
When is he coming back?
Speaker 7 (01:17:55):
There's no timeline right now, we know that he thrower
has thrown fifteen pitches.
Speaker 6 (01:17:59):
I think she was throwing it as a hypothetic, right,
But I'm just saying it's more of again believing and hoping,
like a hope that he comes back.
Speaker 7 (01:18:05):
But it's like when you talk to people around the
Garret Cole situation. Garrett Cole never needed Tommy John. What
he needed was he just needed to rest his elbow
and he needed to go about changing his delivery, and
that led to him missing the start of the season
last year. Eventually coming back, he wasn't great. We saw
what happened in Game five of the World Series, but
he still was able to be out there. You knew
that he didn't need Tommy John though. You knew that
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he didn't need a procedure. He just needed to work
on some mechanic issues so that way this would eventually
not become a problem.
Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
It didn't.
Speaker 7 (01:18:34):
He got into spring training, he went to the he
went to the doctor. They said, nope, we need to
shut you down for the rest of the year. You're
not pitching in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (01:18:43):
I don't think that's what this is.
Speaker 7 (01:18:44):
I think what this is is they are trying to
make sure that every scenario out there isn't possible outside
of Tommy John when they know that Tommy John needs
to happen. That's that's where I come to. I also
will say that one thing that I do will completely
agree with her on fans want instantaneous results. They always
have it. I argued this with college football fans, especially
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with Ohio State. They're so tired of losing to Michigan.
But Ryan Day has ten losses in six years as
a head coach. What are you getting better at who's
coming in here and providing better results than what you
currently have? Because if you can show me that, I'm
guaranteed to get that guy in the building by all means,
go ahead and make that higher. But if I don't
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know that, why am I going to throw away eleven wins?
Why am I going to throw away being this year?
Maybe a middle of the pack lineup when it comes
to hitting, but I have elite pitching and it's going
to carry me to an AL West title.
Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
I mean, we've seen countless examples of that in college football.
It means to your point, I mean, when Texas A
and M got rid of RC Slocome years ago, thinking oh,
this is going to immediately be better, you haven't sniffed
even remotely the amount of success that guy had on
the football field. Tennessee years ago with Philip Falmer.
Speaker 5 (01:19:53):
It took a decade for mac Brown to finally get
a good replacement. I mean that.
Speaker 6 (01:19:57):
I mean, it's just it's it is a good point
brought up by you, where it's it's flashy, it's fun.
You want to have the hot coach name that's going
to show up and be able to change the fortunes
of your program. But Kirby smart does not happen as
much as more of those other things that do happen.
Where it's just like, look, staying the course sometimes is
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not necessarily the worst thing. I mean, because is it
really that bad to go nine to three, ten and
two mostly every year and pop for a national title
chance every so often? I mean, teams don't win these
things six times in a row. It's more or less
you win them six times in your entire career.
Speaker 7 (01:20:33):
Is it bad to go eighty seven and seventy eight
but guarantee that you're in the playoff spot?
Speaker 16 (01:20:37):
Like that?
Speaker 5 (01:20:37):
Like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (01:20:38):
It's the exact same thing when it comes to hitting,
when it comes to get read, you're hitting, coach. You
can readjust in the offseason, you can look at the problems.
You can say we had this solution. It didn't change
when we went about talking in regular season. These mechanics
weren't able to be fixed. We're going to go in
a different pathway. That's what you have right now. But
right now is not the time to go ahead and say,
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well look at what Texas doing.
Speaker 5 (01:21:01):
Texas has got.
Speaker 7 (01:21:02):
Skunked yesterday in a sweep by the New York Yankees
in Yankee Stadium with that complain incredible, the sad, pathetic
excuse of our right field porch. You could even want
launch one ball out there. So congratulations, you got rid
of your hitting coach, you still have the exact same results.
Speaker 6 (01:21:19):
Well, I mean it's also too you gotta deal with
the guys that you've got available to you, and if
those guys aren't doing it well, then you can't really
blame anybody else. All right, As I mentioned Apple TV,
they're backing it with Major League Baseball. And we know
what we think about the Friday package. What if there
was even more? We'll talk about it here at start
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deck six o'clock. From there at dyk In Park, Renel
Blanco on the il with inflammation in his right elbow,
gonna seek a second opinion, and the Thunder take down
the Timberwolves in Game two of the NBA Western Conference Finals,
take a two zero lead in that series. The Adam
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Clinton post victory video is out, and it might be
one of his best works yet of all of the
videos he puts out. I mean, like you know, I
love Cole the ones that he will put up after
the Astros beat the Rangers, and of course it's got
all the JFK and of course in Ranger fans, so
there's much more around here than JFK. And his response
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is always the same, Well he left Houston alive.
Speaker 5 (01:23:23):
I've never actually read the commentation.
Speaker 6 (01:23:24):
Yeah, I've seen him have that response before, and I'm like,
that's a finishing move right there.
Speaker 5 (01:23:29):
I don't think you're gonna come back from that one.
Speaker 6 (01:23:31):
And then, of course, you know, people once they realize
their premise is done, is still try to like I
always love that, like whenever you know, And I haven't
done this in a while and I don't plan on
doing it that much, but whenever you get into a
Twitter feud or any type of social media feud, the
best for me in the biggest tell that you're not
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convinced that your argument is that you don't truly believe
in your argument is the novel when you when you
write the novel to me, my response is, I'm not
wasting my time and you obviously don't believe what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (01:24:06):
If you have to truly.
Speaker 6 (01:24:07):
Convince yourself while writing that in a fit of rage
and being emotion filled.
Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
That you're right in this argument, I'm just gonna be
completely real.
Speaker 7 (01:24:16):
I'm not snazzy or snarky enough to come back with
one liners, so I just don't argue with them and
what they call back, I drop the I'm not reading.
Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
I'm not reading that.
Speaker 7 (01:24:25):
I'm sorry for your lost or best luck, and I
agree with you like just that little, that little gift
that comes out.
Speaker 5 (01:24:30):
That's all I do.
Speaker 7 (01:24:31):
That's the only thing I can do at this point,
or I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
Speaker 6 (01:24:35):
He usually easually, my sign off is cry louder. It
usually helps. Like that's that's usually my sign off when
it comes to that. And of course you deal with
the posing fan bases. But today's edition of the Adam
Clanton post victory video good morning to everyone but Seattle
hashtag tried ends up fans. What is easily the dumbest
home run dugout celebration in Major League Baseball? Hey, you
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know what would be so sick walking around like Ariel's
father from a Little Mermaid because they when they get
in the dugout, they have the tray ye with the
home run.
Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
Yeah cute, it's funny.
Speaker 7 (01:25:07):
I thought you would go with something like Kurt Cobain
didn't also make it eye, I didn't hear the music.
Speaker 6 (01:25:11):
I mean, I've just seen the video and obviously it's
got all the footage all of that, but yeah, he
will have some sort of musical accompaniment with it.
Speaker 7 (01:25:18):
No, like how he said, well when he left Houston,
JFK was alive.
Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
Well, when he left Houston, Kirk Cobain was alive.
Speaker 6 (01:25:25):
I'm trying to remember even the last time he was here.
But I mean, sure, I though you didn't leave Seattle
that way. I just think you'd have to kind of
like wrap your brain like a little bit more. Whereas
like you know, a good one liner, Oh, you get
it immediately, like it's it's right there.
Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
That's where I'm at.
Speaker 6 (01:25:41):
Yeah, I mean I've gotten better at them. I used
to not be so good at them. But you know,
it's one of those you watch enough comedy you're able
to kind of pick up on a few things and
then say, oh, yeah, hey that's good.
Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
Mentally write that down. Mentally write that down.
Speaker 7 (01:25:53):
Usually I have to physically write that down just for
me and then looking at the paper.
Speaker 5 (01:25:57):
Comics app journals for a reason. Man.
Speaker 6 (01:25:59):
So you just work on your material a little bit,
do a couple of open mic nights, and maybe you'll
get there.
Speaker 7 (01:26:03):
Are you gonna come watch me? You're gonna Are you
gonna come with the tomatoes? Getting ready to pull them.
Speaker 5 (01:26:07):
Out my head.
Speaker 6 (01:26:07):
Oh no, I wouldn't do any of that, and I
wouldn't be any of the hecklers in the crowd, because
I mean, it's one of those that, like, you go
to a comedy show and somebody thinks they're being funny.
It's like, hey, JACKO, I came to see him or her.
I didn't come to see you. Shut your mouth, drink
your drink and watch the show. See for me whatever,
laugh in a few jokes like look, you will have
comedians who will absolutely bomb on stage, and the funny
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thing is is their comedian friends will then, you know,
laugh even harder because they're like, oh man, they are
feeling it right now and it sucks.
Speaker 5 (01:26:36):
Oh it's great, Like does it so?
Speaker 9 (01:26:38):
Like?
Speaker 7 (01:26:38):
Our fantasy football punishment one year was open mic night,
and the loser had to do fifteen minutes of stand
up in the curently fifteen fifteen damn fifteen.
Speaker 5 (01:26:47):
We went, We.
Speaker 7 (01:26:48):
Got ripbroor and drunk, and we sat down at the
improm and then watched them go up on stage. They
were also not allowed to have a drop of alcohol,
and we were allowed to say whatever the hell we want.
Speaker 6 (01:26:57):
I would think that like five minutes would be enough
punish because like you think to yourself, oh, it's five minutes.
You know, I can get up there, i can say
a few things and then I'm going to be off
the stage.
Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
No, that's the longest damn five minutes you've ever had.
Speaker 6 (01:27:08):
Like, there's a reason why you go to some open
mic nights, and I've seen people who do comedy for
a living have like panic attacks before they're about to
go up there in the in the club owner is like, hey,
can you do like three minutes?
Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
All right, Hey just do three minutes. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:27:22):
No, to be fair, that is the one time in
life when people are like, oh, you've been talking forever,
and it's like, I've only been talking for two minutes.
That is one of those times you've been talking forever.
It literally has been thirty seconds. It feels that way.
You're you are one hundred percent right. The longest five
minutes of your life is doing stand up. We may
himed it fifteen fifteen. Geez, he never he paid it. Okay,
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here's the reason why he never paid attention. Like he's
still he started lineups every single day. Those guys on
bays he like he trade away Jonathan Taylor for who
was it Rashad Penny and someone else like he wasn't
paying attention to his entire league and just got swindled.
So we're like, we're punishing you for if you're going
to pay the one hundred and fifty dollars to join
the league, pay attention or we won't make you do
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this kind of stuff.
Speaker 6 (01:28:06):
That's why I mean, when it comes to fantasy leagues
like I used to do fantasy baseball, I gave that
up a long time ago. It's just right now, it's
too much of a time commit. And now when it
comes to fancy football, like I would like get like
up to like three or four of them. I know,
fantasy football team talk here on the radio. It's great radio,
for sure, get past it. We'll be through it in
just a second. But I've got it now to where
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it's just the work league here and then some friends
of mine that I still have from where I was
previously living.
Speaker 7 (01:28:35):
Two leagues both one hundred and fifty dollars to join.
That's much I want to spend there.
Speaker 6 (01:28:38):
You go, all right, well, if you are willing to
spend money, are you willing to spend money for an Apple?
TV plus TV package because according to Awflow Announcing, MLB
and Apple have had extensive talks over the ESPN package.
The league is also talked with Amazon, Netflix, Google. I
guess Google is the one who has decided, hey, we
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want to get into this, but also NBC.
Speaker 5 (01:29:03):
It was actually John Arrand of PUCK. I didn't know that.
Speaker 6 (01:29:06):
Such a thing existed, but I know who he is.
He's a sports media column this guy that's out there
kind of like Andrew marshawn website. Yeah, sure, probably, but
that Rob Manfred has had talks with the previous three
and Apple about taking over the ESPN rights once they
get out of their media rights deal, which of course
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that'd be Sunday Night Baseball. That would also, I'm assuming
be the first round of the playoffs because talked about
it yesterday with Gordy. The divisional round. All through the
World Series is the first two are Fox and Turner,
but then after that just becomes Fox at the end.
I hate it if it's going to be on Apple TV.
I do because if I think that there is value
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on still having the games to where you're not paying
a premium package, and you know that those Sunday night
games oftentimes are among the best teams or the highest
market rated teams, which is why you see the revenue,
which is why you see the rating skyrocket. So you're
already telling me, as say an Astros fan that is
going to see a matchup over the weekend against the Dodgers,
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that one game is going to be on Apple TV
Friday night.
Speaker 5 (01:30:13):
Roku's getting more involved.
Speaker 7 (01:30:15):
Let's say they move to a Saturday night and then
you get Sunday Night Baseball, which is now a part
of Apple TV. I have to have two different subscriptions
to watch the best series of the weekend. Who wins
in that one? Because of when you're trying to grow
a fan base, and I talk about this for college
football as it constantly is changing right now, and they're
saying that pay per view is eventually going to come
to the sport, when you're trying to grow a fan
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base and say that we still care about the product,
we still care about the fans, we still care about
building a culture and a legacy for the sport. And
then you say, well, here's what we're going to do.
We care enough as long as you're willing to slap on,
you know, an extra fifteen ninety nine per week. That
way you can go ahead and watch your team. You're
saying that you don't really care NBC would at least
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have the game on NBC.
Speaker 6 (01:31:00):
See, And that's the thing is I mean, you have
to also remember that not everybody is technologically inclined. Like
I mean, there's a reason that I've joked with you
in Tripoli about getting calls from people you know, hey,
what channel is that going to be on? It's gonna
be on YouTube. Well I know that, but it's just like, Okay,
I just answered your question. Like you know, you get frustrated,
but you also you have a little bit of empathy
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because like obviously the person you know that they're they're
not as technologically inclined as US three and a.
Speaker 5 (01:31:28):
Lot of people are Channel two. There we go.
Speaker 6 (01:31:31):
But yeah, and that's just it, I mean of being
able to at least have that Like with the NFL,
you know that if it's an Amazon game, it's Netflix, whatever,
if the Texans are involved, well then somebody here is
going to have it. So like you know that way,
you'll know that. But it's also though too, I mean
for the same people that I was just saying, like, hey,
you know, be a little kind to them whenever they
ask those questions. It's also, you know, whenever we get
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calls about hey, what time is the game tonight? What
what is the channel? My response is, dude, d learned
how to text and my dad learned how to use emoji's.
Speaker 5 (01:32:02):
I have faith in you.
Speaker 6 (01:32:03):
That thing that you have in your hand that you're
calling me on right now, it's got a computer, lion,
It's got a thing called Google.
Speaker 5 (01:32:08):
You can find it there.
Speaker 7 (01:32:09):
The problem is, though you're gonna see the random people say,
I don't want to pay for Apple TV. It's a scam,
and it's not a scam, but it also kind of
is a scam because of we're gonna have shows on there.
Speaker 5 (01:32:18):
They have some good shows.
Speaker 7 (01:32:19):
But if you're really saying that, I'm one of the
clientele for baseball, seventy five year old that wants to
enjoy the sport that I grew up loving, and I
gotta pay fifteen ninety nine just to be able to
watch one game a week like that's that's where I
have the problem with you.
Speaker 5 (01:32:31):
Friends man telling you you want to peacock.
Speaker 7 (01:32:34):
That's fine, because of at least with Peacock, a go
on NBC first, then you can watch the replay.
Speaker 6 (01:32:38):
And plus, you know, you can watch all the Bravo shows.
I'm not ashamed to admit it. We're a Bravo house,
are you really?
Speaker 5 (01:32:43):
Damn right?
Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
We are?
Speaker 7 (01:32:44):
See Kersen's watching Secret Lives and Mormon Wives right now,
and now I'm fully getting invested.
Speaker 5 (01:32:48):
I haven't gotten into that one.
Speaker 6 (01:32:49):
I mean, we were, you know, the the Ogs, which
the you know what kind of got started for Bravo
was OC and still still watch that.
Speaker 5 (01:32:56):
That was that was on Bravo, not the not the
OC talking about the household Lives.
Speaker 6 (01:33:01):
Yeah, yeah, and then from there, you know, Beverly Hills
everybody else kind of came in.
Speaker 5 (01:33:05):
So you've got that.
Speaker 6 (01:33:06):
But I mean it's just it's also too from Are
you going to necessarily tell me that the overall product
of Apple TV is going to get better? Because there's
a reason why the option is there for Hey, do
you want to listen to your radio broadcast? And immediately
I say yes, because I don't care you know whoever
is on the broadcast call of you know whatever kid
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from Syracuse you got to do the game with, you know,
I don't know whoever is on MLB Network that that
they throw out there for it, and it's just like,
these are two nondescript people that for the most part,
if I'm watching it on TV, I'm seeing the action
of what's happening. But good broadcasters do enhance the product itself,
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and as it is right now, you don't have that.
Speaker 5 (01:33:52):
We got Tom have A Ford and Jimmy Rollins. No,
I have Robert Ford and c. Sparks. That's why I
listened to see you just told me two names.
Speaker 6 (01:33:59):
Jimmy obviously I know, but like you know, I would
be interested enough to hear what he has to say.
But the other guy, you could put him in a
lineup with ten other people, I'd have no idea who.
Speaker 7 (01:34:08):
Tom Havard and Chris Burke. All right, cool, great, I
got Robert Fer and se Sparks right here on.
Speaker 6 (01:34:13):
We love Burkey. Look, we didn't get to the opportunity.
And one of our listeners yesterday pointed out a guy
that I think is underrated when it comes to baseball
and basketball, Brian Anderson.
Speaker 5 (01:34:24):
Like you put Brian Anderson on there.
Speaker 6 (01:34:26):
Okay, I mean again, I'm not watching it for Brian Anderson,
but he absolutely makes the product better for sure. No,
I'm there with you. Here's one that I'll throw out,
and it's one that me and you, I think would
agree on.
Speaker 5 (01:34:38):
Tom Hart and Ben McDonald.
Speaker 6 (01:34:40):
I watch that because because for people to watch for
people that don't know Tom Hart, Like, one of my
favorite booths in all of sports is the one that
he has with Jordan Rodgers and Cole ki Block for
doing SEC games.
Speaker 5 (01:34:53):
They have so much fun. They call a hell of
a game.
Speaker 6 (01:34:56):
And I mean again, I'm not watching necessarily for them,
but it makes it even better, like like it's a
it's a fun watch and listen at the same time.
Speaker 7 (01:35:04):
See, I'm not a Cole Cublic sideline guy, but I
am a lot. I am full love, but I'm full
Jordan Rogers, Tom hartbooth like, I think that they are
for SEC network the best.
Speaker 5 (01:35:13):
Booths and game seeing.
Speaker 6 (01:35:14):
Tom's a friend too, So when I ran into him
last time at a Georgia game up in the press box,
I go, hey, where's Cole. He goes, Cole's an outside dog.
We we we keep him outside.
Speaker 5 (01:35:24):
Cole's a barner. I don't want to talk to him
right now. I love Court. Yeah, No, he's a barner.
I'll tell you what too.
Speaker 6 (01:35:29):
If you're a football fan, you love film breakdowns, all
of those things, Prime Coldinger, Cole Cole cublic man, he
he can deliver it. So anyway, that's something on the
MLB rights talks for Sunday Night Baseball everything else, And
uh see that Biscuit wants to get in on that.
So we can continue the conversation on this, I mean,
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you know, just to kind of wrap it up on
it as well with NBC. I mean, I do know
that you're going to run into where all right, Well
if you still got Sunday Night Baseball, you got you know,
Sunday Night Football. Sure that's not being moved, like that's
staying right.
Speaker 5 (01:36:03):
Where it is.
Speaker 7 (01:36:04):
You have Peacock congratulations. One game out of the what
would it be, fifty two is on Peacock.
Speaker 6 (01:36:09):
Plus you get to watch below deck, so you get
that going for you. All right, So, like I said,
you want to get in on the phone lines this
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Biscuit on was the way in on the conversation. We
were just having biscuit. Good morning, by the way to
where you been?
Speaker 17 (01:37:14):
Man?
Speaker 5 (01:37:14):
I mean, listen to the.
Speaker 6 (01:37:15):
Matt Thomas Show and I hear him calling for you,
and I'm like, what the hell, man, he's he's a turncoat.
Speaker 17 (01:37:20):
He's leaving us. No, man, it's the heat man is
hating me getting up a little late. Man.
Speaker 8 (01:37:27):
You know, I'm out here with the Brown Army Man.
Speaker 17 (01:37:29):
So the heat is getting to have some late mornings.
So I have been missing out on you guys.
Speaker 5 (01:37:35):
I'll get that.
Speaker 10 (01:37:36):
Man.
Speaker 6 (01:37:37):
Well, it's just it wasn't frustration. It's more of a
good to hear from you. So absence makes the heart
grow fonder. It's great to hear from you again, Buddy.
Speaker 8 (01:37:47):
Is my brother? Hey man, listen.
Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
And I may be.
Speaker 17 (01:37:50):
In the minority, and you know, I'm that old guy whatever,
But if I got to go through three or four
different things to find where you what channel you on?
You know what time you on? I think that's that's
not a good thing, you know what I mean. I'm
you know, and I'm a sports guy. I don't mind
paying the fifteen ninety nine or whatever. Uh uh you know,
(01:38:11):
I'm you know, I got all the sports packages or whatever.
But if I gotta flip through my my thing and okay,
well baseball isn't on this channel?
Speaker 8 (01:38:20):
What what? What channel?
Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
You know?
Speaker 8 (01:38:22):
I mean, I already know what.
Speaker 17 (01:38:23):
NBA gonna be on, t N, T or ESBN. Uh
football is you know Fox, CBS or you know NBC,
you know ESPN on Monday? I mean I know where
you know where to go? If I gotta figure out
where to go, I think that's the problem and I
and especially in the playoffs with baseball, you you have
to flip around and look at you gotta try to
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figure out where they're playing.
Speaker 18 (01:38:47):
And I don't.
Speaker 8 (01:38:47):
I don't understand you know that to.
Speaker 17 (01:38:48):
Me, and I may be in the minority, but to me,
you know, sometimes people just you know whatever and just
go on to something else. I think baseball needs to
get that figured out. They need some consistency. And you know,
if you get some consistency, then I can you know,
I can support you. But if if you're all over
the place, you know, get three different you know channels
(01:39:09):
and this and that, Nah, you're gonna miss me now.
Speaker 6 (01:39:14):
I definitely hear you on that. Appreciate the call, Biscuit.
Don't be a stranger. You know where we are every
single day six ten. Awesome man, stay safe out there today.
Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
Yes, their awesome.
Speaker 5 (01:39:24):
See buddy, have a good weekend.
Speaker 7 (01:39:25):
Biscuit brings up to the exact point that I was
trying to make. You're trying to grow the sport. You're
trying to make sure that the fans are cared about.
This is the way to lose fans because they don't
want to pay attention.
Speaker 6 (01:39:35):
Well, the funny thing is Major League Baseball seems to
grasp this when they're probably the league of the major
three that should grasp it the least, because the NFL
could very easily say all right, hey, we'll have it
wherever you're going to watch, you're going to pay for it,
We know that you are, and they decide not to.
They make it the most accessible of any of them.
I mean the Biscuit's point right there of you know,
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you know that your local team is going to be
on Fox or CBS if they're playing on Sunday afternoon,
and if they're not, then you know they're going to
be on NBC that night or on you know, ESPN
ABC for Monday night football. Same deal with the Amazon Prime.
I mean that's kind of like the dabbling that they've
done with it a little bit, and then it's okay,
well my team is not in the market, Well then fine,
(01:40:18):
by the buy the TV package and you can watch
it that way. You're paying a little bit of extra money,
but that's all good. Major League Baseball, I think, kind
of looks at it with the fans of just saying hey,
you can find us, Well no I can't find you. Okay,
Well then come see us play in person. Well you're
out of town. Well, I don't know what else to
tell you. That's pretty much what they tell their fans.
Speaker 5 (01:40:37):
You know it's bad.
Speaker 7 (01:40:37):
And I've gone two hours and twenty seven minutes without
making a hockey reference. But even in the NHL, TNT, ESPN,
that's where you're gonna get the games. And if they're
not there, they're on ESPN Plus. So you got to
pay the pianer and package, but that's where they are.
Baseball it's a one night's on Roku, one night's on Amazon,
one night's on local stations, one night's on ESPN, and
(01:40:58):
then you have the blackout restriction, which is another problem.
So like if you're going to make sure that we
have these games, go to NBC or Peacock, get rid
of the blackout restrictions.
Speaker 5 (01:41:07):
Then whenever MLB doesn't well, I mean in the NHL.
Speaker 6 (01:41:10):
Is even more than what I was just talking about
with baseball, because baseball is such a sport because of
how long it is and how many chances there are,
there's no urgency to watch it. Like football, there's urgency
to watch it because there's only a handful that you're
able to see during a finite amount of time, because
then after that there's the vast wasteland that is the
off season of just being able to talk about the
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dumbest things possible when it comes to a sport that
is playing the shortest amount of time of any of
the others that we have.
Speaker 5 (01:41:37):
Oh, I enjoyed the dumb stuff in the off season.
I mean, sure, for your job, I get it.
Speaker 6 (01:41:41):
But then it's like also though too, It's like, all right,
finally let's get here, and then let's get training camp.
Tweets of oh, so and so just shook Derek Stingley Junior.
They're both wearing shorts. Trust me, Once they put on pads,
then maybe I'm willing to listen to you. But until then,
save the tweet.
Speaker 7 (01:41:56):
Do you mean that undrafted free agent that was able
to win his one on one rode.
Speaker 5 (01:41:59):
Across he is on his way to the No, they're not.
Speaker 6 (01:42:04):
If they were, they would have been drafted either in
Day one or day two. That's how that always goes.
And maybe somebody slips through the cracks every once in
a while, but no, for the most part, not But no,
I mean that's these are the things we've been talking
about with baseball for the longest time of exactly what
you just mentioned in the blackout restrictions. It's also which
I will give them credit. I do think that they
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are doing a better job now of highlighting the stars
of the game. Sure, I mean there's almost to a
point now where there's fatigue of shohe Otani and Aaron Judge.
And look, even though people on the outside might try
to tell you that Jose Altuve is not a league favorite,
I mean, go ahead and look at the jersey sales
around Major League Baseball. Go ahead and look at the
All Star voting by both the fans and the players.
Speaker 5 (01:42:48):
Jose Altuve is a star in this game. You told
me this last week.
Speaker 7 (01:42:51):
It's better to have for somebody to have a negative
opinion on you than no opinion at all. So whether
or they boot him, he still is getting that star
ambiance when he goes to other ballparks for negative reasons,
but it still is happening.
Speaker 6 (01:43:03):
No, Reggie Jackson said it best they don't boo nobody's
and Jose l Twov I think has proven throughout his
career he is definitely not a nobody. Martin s You
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Speaker 6 (01:44:44):
Initially when this all came out, it was thought, you know,
centering around their stadium and you know, trying to renovate
it and it's something that needs to be up to date.
Which immediately with the hiring of Mike Towman, you're thinking
to yourself, Oh, this guy's not here just to do
a renovation.
Speaker 5 (01:44:59):
That guy here to find you a new home. That's
why he's here.
Speaker 6 (01:45:03):
And Well, he built the Star in Frisco, Danny Well,
I mean he built the Star in Frisco. I think
he was part of the Raiders stadium too, So he's
part of that Legends group, which that's what they do,
like they they're hired on to be able to, you know,
bring in the people to design your stadium, sell your suites,
do all those different types of things saw in Atlanta
with the Falcons. But it's also too, I mean to
(01:45:25):
the point that you just brought up about the Star,
I mean it's concepts like that are what teams now
want because the Braves were kind of the ones that
got it started with their ballpark and what's outside of it,
I mean, it is a city outside of a ballpark,
basically restaurants, sharps, shops, bars, hotels, even in apartments right there,
(01:45:45):
all of those things that you can have that's pretty
self sustaining, and it's also something that is able to
generate revenue for you all throughout the year. Where you've
started to get teams that when they were building stadiums,
like the Rangers built theirs shortly thereafter and they said,
oh we can't just have a ballpark, you know, that's
in the shadows of AT and T Stadium. We have
to have an attraction in addition to the ballpark. And
(01:46:07):
they built that there Jim Crane. It's been teased for
the longest time. They're going to do the same thing
with where the bus and where Luckies used to be
right there across from the ballpark. Nothing's necessarily happened with
that yet, but still, I mean, it's something that they
have in the plans to possibly be able to do.
And to your point with the Star now, the Texans
want to be able to do that of have their
(01:46:28):
own team headquarters. I mean, you heard Hannah McNair talk
about we can't even necessarily use our building year round
because then you've got the Rodeo, you've got Disney on ice,
whoever else it might be that is also going to
be involved here. So it's ours, but it's not fully ours.
Because that's the thing too, is that when you get
into situations like this, billionaires, you know, they have egos
(01:46:51):
just like any of us. I mean, any of us
that do something that you feel somewhat of pride in,
you're going to have an ego about how you do it,
otherwise you're not doing it well.
Speaker 7 (01:46:59):
Why wouldn't you want to have an ego about it
is the big thing? Why wouldn't you want to act
like that what you own is the greatest thing, and
everybody should want to appreciate it the way that I appreciate.
Speaker 6 (01:47:09):
And that's where you get two stadiums being built, because
then you get these people. They go see something else
and they're like, Oh, that's awesome. You get to keep
all the revenue from this. I want that too, And
you know what, I don't even just want it. I
want to make mine better than yours, and then somebody
will make theirs better than yours.
Speaker 5 (01:47:25):
All of those different things.
Speaker 6 (01:47:26):
It's all fine and good, but Harris County leaders are
working with Texan's on trying to keep a potential new
headquarters within Harris County lines. Leslie Brionis, who's one of
the county commissioners, telling the Chronicle, I love sports, and
I believe it brings the community together. Obviously, it's a
huge economic impact, and I'm really energized by the new president,
(01:47:47):
Mike Towman, so I'm optimistic and I really do hope
that they choose the our site in the county, which
initially in the story.
Speaker 5 (01:47:58):
And that was the thing.
Speaker 6 (01:47:58):
I was texting with Matt Thomas about this last night
because he had mentioned around like Holly Hall, like North Maine,
like kind of around there.
Speaker 5 (01:48:05):
I guess was something that was.
Speaker 6 (01:48:07):
Thrown out, But then I looked in this story and
it wasn't there. So my guess is that, like, hey,
you know, that's not the site or whatever it might be.
Speaker 5 (01:48:15):
I don't know, but what I know that some people are.
Speaker 6 (01:48:20):
Going to think about this is okay, you can have that,
But then what happens when it's not football season, or
when it's not training camp, or you know, any of
those things that you would think in your mind is
going to bring you there. But the teams own it,
the teams run it, the teams have the revenue. So,
for example, what I talked about when I was in
Atlanta are studios where I worked at were right there
(01:48:41):
in the battery, that's what they call the area outside
Truest Park. They would have fun runs, they would have
Christmas tree lightings, and they would have any other type
of event, beer festivals, whatever, it might be, something to
keep you saying, hey, this place is pretty cool. And oh,
by the way too, Like you have places in there
that you go to and you're like, man, this place
is awesome. Like they have a spot there, it's a
(01:49:03):
sports bar that seriously looks like a Vegas sports book.
So you go there, and if it's football season, you're like, well,
look at the size of this TV. Damn Ry, don't
want to come here, drink some beers and eat some
wings and see the game here. I'm not going to
find a screen like this anywhere else.
Speaker 7 (01:49:18):
So the thing about the Star is is that everything
that's in the Star has some property or intellect owned
by Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. The reason they
do that is because if they want to bring in
a revenue. If you're the Texans and you're looking at
this from a financial standpoint, number one, you know the
first rule in business, you gotta spend money to make money.
Speaker 5 (01:49:37):
So if you're willing to invest millions and.
Speaker 7 (01:49:40):
Dollars, I'm building a sports bar, I'm building restaurants, I'm
building a team shop. On building what you have, like
what would be a rally house, but it's only Texans
gear and maybe it's vintage Texans gear and all that
and then you throw in how smart business people do
when the holidays are around and when we have the
off period and we need to be able to make
up for time.
Speaker 5 (01:49:58):
We have events here.
Speaker 7 (01:50:00):
We have something along the lines of an Easter celebration,
we have something along the lines of a Fourth of
July Memorial Day parade, a fun run. As you said,
there's ways to go about it to where you're still
profiting in the off season. And the best part is
a lot of the players, especially for the Texans, live
in Houston in the off season.
Speaker 5 (01:50:18):
So what do you do.
Speaker 7 (01:50:19):
You sell it with the marketing proposition of come to
the fun run and meet Nico Collins, come to this
Memorial Day event parade that we have headlined by our
Master of Grand Champions, Jalen Petrie. And then people who
are infatuated, are fully invested in the Texans that want
to see as much as possible, They will go to
(01:50:41):
these events simply for the opportunity to see this person
up close.
Speaker 6 (01:50:45):
And it's also though, I mean, you have to have
the attraction, but not only that accessibility to be able
to get there right And that's where I would think
if I'm Mike Toeman or in this case i'm one
of the McNair's, my charge to him would be, have
we done a feasibility study of our season ticket base,
like where's our season ticket base?
Speaker 5 (01:51:04):
Where are they living? Like what part of town are
they in?
Speaker 6 (01:51:07):
And if you see most of the money is right there,
go to them right And even if it's not in
Harris County, you're doing yourself a disservice. And it's also
too you have to have your players in mind because
a lot of the players live right there, the bel
Air Wesu area, Paarland on the south southwest side of town.
That's that's where they're living. So it's also you know,
being able to attract players of hey, look look at
(01:51:28):
these neighborhoods around here, look at all of the other things.
And oh, by the way, where you're gonna go to
work every single day mile or two from your house.
So it's not necessarily something that you're gonna have to
you know, completely crane your neck for and be able
to you know, have to make you know, a forty
five minute drive there, forty five minute drive back home
every single day unless you want to.
Speaker 7 (01:51:45):
Well, it's like there's an episode of south Park it
says I own this little piece in Aspen. It's the
same thing that when it comes to this with the Texans.
I own this little piece in I don't know, the
Woodlands or in Katie or wherever our major priority ticket
season ticket holders are. We own that property. We're going
to make this property a Texans community. And then what
we could also do is we could throw in some
other sporting events when the Astros are doing well, when
(01:52:07):
the Rockets are in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (01:52:09):
Make it to where this is.
Speaker 7 (01:52:10):
A Houston based community, but it's still centered around the Texans.
Speaker 6 (01:52:13):
Well, I mean it's you know of you know, maybe
even focusing on the NRG Park area right there. That's
all fine and good, but it's like also too at
the same time, why are you necessarily trying to go
through all this effort when you're pretty much going to
get the same thing that you already have exactly?
Speaker 7 (01:52:29):
And to me, I just feel like that when you
are looking at other organizations and how they've gone about,
especially in the last decade or so, building communities for
their football teams, building legacies, building building ambient ambiances that
lead towards you having a culture and a dialect that
(01:52:50):
goes into game days.
Speaker 5 (01:52:51):
I view that as a massive win.
Speaker 7 (01:52:53):
I think that Jim Crane is foolish not to consider
doing what we saw with Lucky's and building like a
ballpark theme going into the ball game, because it just
it adds value and it adds culture. I love going
to Cleveland because of rousside of Progressive Field. They have
a great vicinity. Wriggleyville is great. I don't like the Cubs,
but I love Wrigglyville because if it's more than just
going to a game, it's an event.
Speaker 5 (01:53:12):
Well it's also too.
Speaker 6 (01:53:13):
I mean, the Texans I think are smart in trying
to capitalize on their most recent run of success, because
I mean that hasn't always been the case. Notice they
didn't try to do this around twenty twenty or twenty
twenty one, when it was the city completely out on them.
I mean, you're gonna have your diehards, that's fine, But
for the most part, Bill O'Brien and everybody there, Jackie
easter Beat, they ran people off like where it was
(01:53:34):
just like you guys just aren't serious, Like why do
I want to pay attention to this? But then you
bring Demko Ryance back in, you go get CJ. Stroud,
you get Willy Anderson Junior, and all of a sudden
you look at it and you say, huh, you guys
are actually competent. Now, okay, cool, Maybe I will put
a little bit more money into your product, Field of Dreams.
If you build it, they will come build it the
right way, They'll come in droves. Well, that's why it's
(01:53:55):
also incumbent on the Texans to continue these good decisions
and those good decisions paying off on the field. So,
Charles c you want to get in on this, Martin,
I see also to one of the other things we've
talked about. We'll get you guys involved here in the conversation.
Don't forget to Aircrats of Foul Territory TV. Former astro
going to join us here in the nine o'clock hour
(01:54:16):
as we continue on the Seawan Salisbury Show Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
More, Sean Salisbury, get in, strap In and write in.
Speaker 6 (01:54:29):
Got into a couple of different topics that I know
some of you want to weigh in on, Martin and
Charles Martin will get us started down in Angleton.
Speaker 5 (01:54:35):
What's going on?
Speaker 19 (01:54:37):
Hey, I always wanted to I want the NHL in
Houston is so bad. I've been one of it since
I was a little kid, and I was wondering, I
don't know if what if it was to come to Houston,
would they have their own they would share the Toronota
Center with the Rockets or what they or with the
(01:54:58):
NHL team want to build their own arena, do y'all know?
Speaker 7 (01:55:03):
Well, it's based off of who owns the team is
the big question mark, because if it's Tillman, then it's
a little bit different because again, you can just use
Toyota Center, but if somebody else is using it, then
you got to pay for the rental fees. Maybe you
want to build your own complex because it's your complex.
Speaker 19 (01:55:19):
Well, I hope the NHL comes to Houston. But my
other thing is the new president of the Texans specializes
in building new stadiums. What I understand, But I thought
the president of the Texans was supposed to be like
(01:55:39):
the football operations on the field person dealing with the
football operations on the field. Only it would seem like,
why didn't they just hire this person as an outside consultant.
Speaker 6 (01:55:53):
Well, because the team president handles the business day to
day operations.
Speaker 5 (01:55:58):
The other stuff that you're mentioning it's Nick Cassario.
Speaker 19 (01:56:02):
Okay, So this guy, this new president, is on the
business operations side, yes, not football operation. Yes, yes, that
explains everything perfectly. Thank y'all.
Speaker 5 (01:56:14):
All right, thanks Martin, appreciate it, buddy. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:56:16):
I mean, you know Greg, Greg Grissom, that was before him,
Jamie Roots before him. I mean, you know, same deal here.
I mean, as soon as I saw what this guy's
chops were, and you know, there was the conversation about
renovating in RG Stadium. As soon as I saw who
it was, I said, oh, this isn't going to be
about renovating in RG Stadium. This is about, hey, you
(01:56:36):
built those other places, help us build one.
Speaker 5 (01:56:39):
Of our owns.
Speaker 7 (01:56:39):
That's one hundred percent while he was hired. Now, maybe
they keep in RG Stadium for Sundays, but they're going
to have their own complex. It's going to be the
Houston Texans Complex, just like the Star, Just like he
got out in Flowery Branch, just he goed out in
Las Vegas.
Speaker 5 (01:56:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:56:51):
So, I mean, things are not necessarily done, and in
this case, they're not done. When you're dealing with this
amount of money by coincidence, it's all right, go ahead
and follow the money if you will on that, and
that's what leads us to believe that sections are going
to try to find their own place one way or another.
Charles inmost city wants the way in Charles, good morning, what's.
Speaker 9 (01:57:11):
Up, guys.
Speaker 18 (01:57:11):
I just wanted to first say, let's talk about the
elephant in the room. Why do we have the astrodome
still sitting there? Loved astrodome, got opportunity to play in
at all that, but tear the dome down and you
could build whatever you want right there and being out
here in most city for being people fickle, they might
like it for a little while. Let's say the team
(01:57:33):
takes a dip, whatever, you're going to take your money
and invest in moving facility away from just been there,
the rodeo, all that generates revenue. Take your money that
you're getting from the fans whatever for the football team.
But to move somewhere completely different. When you have an
astrodom there that you could just tear down, be able
to build whatever you want on that site and maybe
(01:57:54):
make an agreement that you own whatever was there with
the astrodom, because from my understanding, they don't own the stadium.
We have put in tax dollars, or at least they
did in Houston to create the stadium.
Speaker 5 (01:58:05):
Is that correct, Yeah, they least in the county, correct.
Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 18 (01:58:09):
So you're making more money in my opinion, by leasing,
and you're not obligated any other times of the season
because let's say God forbid, the team sucks or whatever
and people aren't coming to this fancy thing. Dallas is
living off the Cowboys winning the Super Bowl one hundred
years ago. That's why the people want to come. And
they're also one of the highest revenue generating teams in
(01:58:30):
sports paraphernalia whatever. Because the Cowboys fans delusional, We're fickle.
So if you turn around and build this new place
and ten years from now we're having that downturn that
sometimes Houston teams do. Now you're stuck with this place
that you own, and you can't walk away in the
off season and hope that you're going to make money. Well,
(01:58:50):
now you just get you get the best of both
wor ros. You get to take the money with the
leaf and you don't have to own or worry about
it in the off season. I hear what you're saying.
We got some great fans, but we can't be fickle,
and you've built this new whatever because somebody else is
doing it. I would think if you're a billionaire or
a trillionaire or whatever they are, you would be smarter
with your money build something on the site you're on
(01:59:13):
because you have the land to do it around the area.
Just like guys talk about Holly Hall and the Astrodom
is sitting there doing absolutely nothing. When is the last
time Astrodom generated any revenue?
Speaker 6 (01:59:24):
Now, that's for sure. Appreciate the call, Charles. I mean
a couple of things there. It's also when you do
the ask and the Texans are doing it. Like I
just thought about the Astros when they finally asked the
voters of Harris County to approve what would now become
dyke In Park.
Speaker 5 (01:59:41):
They didn't win.
Speaker 6 (01:59:42):
Oh the team's getting good, Oh the team's making the playoffs.
This looks like if we do this right, eventually we
could win a world Series around here. Well, it took
a little bit longer to get there, but still you
had enough interest of people saying, well, we've already lost
the Oilers, let's not lose these guys too, and let's
also be able to to enjoy something nice and new
(02:00:02):
But the other part is, you know, with with what
he was saying is with the fans, that's one hundred
percent true, And we can maybe talk about this a
little bit more after Eric Kratz here in just a
few minutes. But it's if the team is not doing well,
and the team doesn't necessarily seem like they have any
emphasis to do well, then you shouldn't be involved in
it either. Like you know, that's one of those Oh,
(02:00:23):
I've been a fan since day one. Oh, so you're
spending tons of money to go watch a crap product
that you don't think is gonna get better anytime soon.
You're an idiot.
Speaker 7 (02:00:30):
Yeah, how many times have we heard that the astrodom
needs to be torn down? Trillion quadrillion, a billion billion, like.
Speaker 5 (02:00:37):
Whatever it is. How many more times am I gonna catch?
Speaker 6 (02:00:39):
It's just at this point with me, like I'm just
like happening, Well, it just make a decision at a
certain point, Like you've got a concept, fine, go with it.
Speaker 5 (02:00:46):
I don't care at this point.
Speaker 6 (02:00:47):
Or maybe the concept is, hey, yeah, guess what, we're
gonna put some TNT in there.
Speaker 5 (02:00:51):
We're gonna level this thing.
Speaker 20 (02:00:52):
Fine, Hey, guys, one of our calls been called in.
He adds, do you guys know where the training facilities are, like,
are they are still like where they play it or
yeah you're talking.
Speaker 7 (02:01:02):
About around the league or just for the Texans, for
the Texans. Yeahs are inside the building.
Speaker 6 (02:01:06):
Yeah, I was gonna say locker room, everything, weight room.
It's inside the building. Practice fields across the way. Anyway,
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Got Astros baseball tonight after a nine to win last
night over the Mariners to start off this four game
series renewe Blanco though on the il with inflammation in
his right elbow, and I'm going to seek a second
opinion on that. And the Timberwolves now down two to
(02:02:55):
oh to the Thunder in the NBA Western Conference Finals,
but supposed to be joined here any minute by Eric Kratz.
But do want to kind of pick up on what
we've talked about all throughout the show today with the
Astros last night, I mean, hitting wise, it was everything
that you could hope to see out of this team,
and maybe even more because you get the two runs
(02:03:17):
there in the third inning, then you get the three
spot there in the fourth. Four straight innings of runs
being scored by the Astros, and three of those with
crooked numbers in those innings. So yesterday me and Gordy,
you know he threw out the where are the crooked numbers?
Speaker 5 (02:03:33):
Like where?
Speaker 2 (02:03:33):
Where?
Speaker 6 (02:03:34):
Where is that production from this team of being able
to put up some serious damage And we hadn't seen
that as much in recent games, but last night it
was a nice chance to be able to break out.
Speaker 7 (02:03:43):
It was for a better case of the word minus
e sec credit is not going getting a hit Probably
the most ideal game that you want to see from
the Astros. You take advantage of a great pitcher coming
off of an il stamp where he has been on
the mountain two months, and you make him pay. You
have great pitching from your starter, and you get to
see a vintage maybe not fully complete, but I would
(02:04:06):
say about seventy five to seventy six point two percent
way fully through Lance colleg shooting your back on the
mount eight case four to third. Yeah, did he walk
through batters, Yes, it's part of the deal. Did he
give up two runs early on including the homer, Yes,
it's part of the deal. But you also watch as
the bats star to waken up, and you shy everybody
deliver on their end of the bargain, whether it be
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a single by Christian Walker, whether it be an RBI double,
a triple by by Jeremy Pania, two home runs from
Josel tu May now getting comfortable in the three hole.
It's one of those things where it doesn't deteriorate from
yes you have problems. Yes there are some issues that
you're going to have to compromise over time, but it's
a way for you to take a giant exhale in
a series that many people are kind of targeting as
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not a must win but certainly a This is a
way for us to get back on track and feel
like the optimism is so growing through.
Speaker 5 (02:04:56):
It's a way to set the tone going into the weekend.
Speaker 6 (02:04:58):
Well, I mean, at the very least this weekend, you
can't get out of here without at least one more
win in this series. You get a split, you're like,
all right, it's not great that we didn't get ground
on these guys, but we didn't lose it either.
Speaker 5 (02:05:10):
Let's, you know, try this again when we face them again.
Speaker 7 (02:05:12):
But it's a lot easier to sell the idea of
still being two games or even a game above five
hundred and being three games below going into your series
against the Athletics.
Speaker 6 (02:05:20):
Well, I mean, it's it's that and it's just also too.
I mean, you wonder if at that point are you
starting to kind of see the struggles that you had
at the beginning of last season, or are you going
through them right now, because this is when if you
go them through them right now, then that does not
bode well for you going forward. You go through them
at the beginning of the season, it's just a all right, fine,
you know, it's just as you know, something that you
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have to kind of weather through and try to hope
that you get through it without minimal damage at that point.
Speaker 7 (02:05:46):
See, I'm one of those people that would rather start
off the year looking like the Colorado Rockies than starting
off the year looking like the San Diego Padres.
Speaker 5 (02:05:53):
Now you know, he never he never go full Rockies.
Speaker 7 (02:05:55):
But what I'm saying is is that I'd much rather
be sitting five game below five hundred middle of May
then sitting at five hundred in the middle of July
knowing that I have to start spending money, giving away
prospects and swinging big if I want to get back
in this race. This is where the Astras are right now.
They're slightly about five hundred with question marks with their
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rotation on the number three, four and five guy, But
you have a great bullpen. You have guys delivering when
it comes to hitting. Now, it's not the faces that
you want it to be, but it is names that
are a foundational part of this roster.
Speaker 5 (02:06:29):
And you feel good about where you stay.
Speaker 7 (02:06:31):
In the division because Los Angeles is going to go
back down to reality at some point. This nine game
win streak is eventually going to come to an end.
This Athletics team, they don't have a home right now,
like the reason why they're struggling. It's great that they
have some pieces, but they don't have a home, which
is why they're losing out in Sacramento. They're playing in
the minor league ballpark teams taking advantage of them. Texas
is Texas. Seattle is Seattle. I feel good about where
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I am despite going through the trials right now.
Speaker 6 (02:06:56):
Well, I mean, you know, it's you never want to
see the losing streaks happen, but it's also where if
you go through it, you're hoping that it's not a
coming at the wrong time and b something that could
really just completely break you as a team. I mean,
that's we've seen it numerous times. I mean, at the
end of seasons, teams that have a five game lead
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going into the final month of the season, and that's
when they play their most baseball and the team that's
chasing them starts to play their best baseball and that's
how they're able to overtake. You see the Astros and
the Mariners last year, where for much of the season
it was all the Mariners.
Speaker 5 (02:07:33):
It was never the Astros. I mean, do you remember
last season the Detroit Tigers.
Speaker 7 (02:07:36):
They were very much a ho hum five hundred team
going into the month of June. Then they found their
identity and it wasn't just Trek Scruble, And it wasn't
just a guy like a Parker Meadows starting to heat
on up or a Spencer Torkolsen being sent down and
you're getting better played from cold Keith.
Speaker 5 (02:07:51):
It was everybody finding ways.
Speaker 7 (02:07:53):
To be able to combat what was a overall roster
that was a little bit ahead a schedule, but then
found a way to be able to keep their best
asset until August and September when they went on the
run and then eventually made the postseason and got to
win over the Astros at dyk In Park.
Speaker 6 (02:08:09):
Yeah, I mean, and to the point you just brought
up there. I mean, that's when you want to be
playing your best baseball. You want to be playing it
in August September, and those are usually the teams that.
Funny enough, if they're playing their best baseball, then well
then they carry it over in the October. And we've
seen the Astros do that a few times. As promised,
let's head out to the hotline. Let's talk with foul
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Territory TV and former Astros that catcher Eric Krautz. Eric Kratz,
excuse me joining us here on the Sean Salisbury Show. Eric,
appreciate the time you got myself, Dan Matthews, got Cole
Thompson here with you.
Speaker 5 (02:08:44):
First and foremost.
Speaker 6 (02:08:46):
I remember a video of you years ago when you
were with the Brewers and you guys got the final
out of your series against the Rockies and you turned
around shook the umpire's hand. Hey, it's great to work
with you. I've always wanted to ask you if I
ever met you, like, did you do that at all
times or was it just kind of a special time
to do that?
Speaker 14 (02:09:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
All times.
Speaker 15 (02:09:05):
I mean Teddy Barrett was one of my favorite umpires,
so it was cool that like we got to work
together in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (02:09:11):
But no, like you do that all the time.
Speaker 15 (02:09:14):
Like the guys, even even when they sucked, you were like,
you know what, like it was fun working with them,
enjoyed the time. Like sometimes you had to kind of
grit your teeth and say it. But I tried to
say it all the time. And you said earlier, you said,
former Astros Catcher, I mean that is a loose, loose turf.
I was there for like a minute.
Speaker 6 (02:09:38):
Well, I mean I saw the video of your buddies
showing up in the jerseys and there was an Astro's
jersey in there. Eric, So once an Astro, always an Astro.
Speaker 8 (02:09:47):
Absolutely, I claimed to be an Astro.
Speaker 6 (02:09:50):
There you go again, Foul Territory TV's Eric Kratz joining
us here on the Sean Salisbury. So, let's talk about
the shrows on the field right now. That was a
nice showing last night, and the bats really broke out
for this team. And we've kind of seen, you know,
hot and cold with that portion of this team all
throughout the season. What you saw last night is that
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something that you feel like is something that they can
ride the rest of the season, especially with the injuries
they have to their starting pitching.
Speaker 15 (02:10:20):
It was perplexing to me that their best hitter essentially
was either Jeremy Paignet or east O Paradis before this game,
and you know, it's still those numbers would probably say that.
But you sit there and you go, why was this
team not hitting? Was Kyle Tucker who missed most of
the season. That big a deal with Alec Bregman, That
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big a deal. Yeah, I think he's that big of
a deal.
Speaker 8 (02:10:47):
I think he added a element to the lineup that
is not irreplaceable. It's just difficult to simulate. It's difficult
to say, Okay, well, this is the guy that's going.
Speaker 22 (02:11:01):
To be able to hit that ninety eight up at
the top of the zone on a consistent basis. The
biggest thing with Bregman to replace in a lineup.
Speaker 1 (02:11:13):
It besides his swagger.
Speaker 15 (02:11:15):
And confidence and just the will to win, which is immeasurable,
it's essentially a guy that strikes out less than he
I mean, yeah, strikes out less than.
Speaker 1 (02:11:27):
He walks, which sounds like an easy thing to do, but.
Speaker 15 (02:11:31):
In the big leagues, at the level that he had
played for a long time, I think it's hard to duplicate,
But I think moving forward, this team has those pieces.
The only thing that I would say is probably going
to be tough for Joe A Spada in a platoon
type of world is the fact that they have right
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handed hitters Goalore. I mean it is with jordn Out,
with Kyle tuffer Gone. You really lose a lot of
like consistent left handed power, which helps a pitcher right
handed or left handed navigate a lineup so so much
easier because you don't have to worry about that power
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from the left side and right on right off speed,
right on right power against power which a lot of
teams bring out of the bullpen. Ken kind of neutralize
this team. But moving forward, you're going to continue. To me,
we felt like Jermy Paeney was going to when we
talked to the Astros guys in the spring training, he
was going to break out this season. Obviously he's you know,
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he's trending towards the All Star type of season. Christian
Walker is going to start hitting. Christian Walker is not
Jose of Bray you at the age that they signed
him last time, So Astro fans don't need to worry
about it.
Speaker 8 (02:12:51):
Yeah, yes, they could find a left handed bat, and.
Speaker 1 (02:12:54):
I think that's Jordan Avarez.
Speaker 8 (02:12:55):
Hopefully this hand muscle thing, mystery injury that there is
can come back.
Speaker 22 (02:13:00):
And this team is still at five hundred and so
this lineup has so much potential and I think will
turn it around the rest of the year.
Speaker 7 (02:13:09):
Yeah, Eric, I want to get your opinion on the
Christian Walker situation. This is his lowest batting average and
his lowest ops since twenty eighteen, and during that span
he only played thirty seven games, he only had forty
nine at bats. He's batt in less than two hundred
right now, and I agree with you. I can't stomach
when Astros fans are saying, Jose Bray you two point
zero because Jose Brady wasn't offering this type of defense.
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But what is it right now that needs to change?
Is his approach to the plate. Is it something with
his swing discipline? When you go back and you watch
the tape, what's up with Christian Walker and why he's
not able to have that same similar success that we
saw on Arizona for the last five se seasons.
Speaker 8 (02:13:51):
Changing scenarios, the pressure, all that stuff could be factors.
Speaker 15 (02:13:55):
Obviously, only Christian Walker can answer to that when I
watch his When I watched and I you know, I
need to watch more Astros baseball to see how teams
are not just facing him, but also how they attack
the rest of the lineup.
Speaker 8 (02:14:12):
He was in a lineup that he understood. How he
understood how pitchers were attacking.
Speaker 15 (02:14:18):
Him in the NL West consistently with other guys around
him the last few years.
Speaker 8 (02:14:24):
Corbyn Carrol to tell Marte, you.
Speaker 15 (02:14:26):
Know, even even a Heraldo Perdomo like guys that.
Speaker 8 (02:14:30):
Were consistently in the lineup. Now he's consistently in the
lineup with new guys in.
Speaker 15 (02:14:34):
The American League West. How are teams going to face him?
And that's what a veteran hitter will learn.
Speaker 16 (02:14:42):
But also ultimately I got to see him take advantage
of the home team bullpen in right center field more.
Sometimes when you get to the Crawford Boxes.
Speaker 1 (02:14:54):
Pool, happiness is exciting. He sat Paradis never hits.
Speaker 15 (02:14:59):
The ball center field, to the right of center field,
so it's a different type of dynamic for him. Easily
fits in. Hey, you know what, keep your game plan,
keep pulling the ball like you do. Christian Walker was
banging balls into the pool for.
Speaker 1 (02:15:15):
A minute out in Arizona.
Speaker 8 (02:15:18):
If you sit there and you go, wow, I.
Speaker 15 (02:15:21):
Can just easily pull hook a ball to left field
and it's a homer.
Speaker 8 (02:15:26):
Now all of a sudden, whether or not he's trying
to do that, his elevated amount of strikeouts at this
point in the season has struck out percent. And don't
forget what exactly it is. He's just going to go
up ultimately because you're not staying on the ball as
long as you can.
Speaker 1 (02:15:44):
For me, when he.
Speaker 15 (02:15:45):
Starts to drive the ball to right center, that's when
you buy on the upside because Christian Walker is going
to start to get hot and he will. Nothing that
I've seen in any of his outlier metrics besides the
strikeouts is crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:16:00):
I haven't heard any injuries.
Speaker 15 (02:16:02):
And you know what, I would bet on his track
record more than his first what.
Speaker 1 (02:16:10):
Are we at fifty games? I would say he will
turn it around again.
Speaker 6 (02:16:15):
Eric Kratz i felt Territory TV. Join us here on
the Sean Salisbury Show and two parterre for you here. Eric,
first part is the Astros pitching, I mean starting to
see some attrition. It looks like Renelle Blanco might be
done for the year. We already know Hayden was Nesky
is done getting Lance mccullors back in. So that's the
first part. Do the Astros have enough pitching to be
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able to run this thing? And the other part is
if you are the Astros, who do you feel like
you have to stave off more? Is it Seattle or
is it eventually Texas? If they start to get things
figured out at the plate.
Speaker 1 (02:16:51):
Can I say yes, sure? Please?
Speaker 8 (02:16:56):
I really see this as a three horse race, and
not to be negative towards ashtro fans, but I don't
know if they have enough starting pitching.
Speaker 15 (02:17:07):
They have an elite, cy young candidate who was to
I mean, come into his own like nobody's business.
Speaker 8 (02:17:13):
In Hunter Brown.
Speaker 15 (02:17:15):
He got hit by a few wind aided home runs
in George Steinberner Field, Tropiccana Stadium whatever they're calling it
this year.
Speaker 8 (02:17:24):
And that was really that's really his only stinker and
it was only a couple pitches. To me, he's really
come into his own and he can be. For the
last year and a half, even the year and three quarters,
he's been that consistent number one for this team.
Speaker 1 (02:17:41):
Everybody knows a fromber can do. It's awesome.
Speaker 8 (02:17:45):
And then some days you're like, is this the real
promber or is this a different promber. So the inconsistency
with Fromber is you can live with it because of
how great the great is. And from there somebody needs
to step up in this rotation to be.
Speaker 1 (02:18:05):
More than a five inning guy.
Speaker 8 (02:18:07):
And I don't know if Lance mccullors last three years
out of the game recovering from what all the stuff
he recovered can be enough to be a sixth inning guy.
Lance McCullers is.
Speaker 1 (02:18:20):
Going to give you everything he has. That's clear. You
don't come back from.
Speaker 8 (02:18:24):
You don't come back from the injuries, the setbacks, the
surgeries that he has and be like, hey, you know what,
I'm just kind of playing out the rest of my contract.
He's going to give you what he has. But take
a look at last night. He had eight punchouts I
think in four and two thirds for a third I think,
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so he didn't get to the fifth inning. He wants
to get to the fifth inning is not a desire thing.
He is out there for the boys, But can your
team sustain the rigors of one hundred and sixty two games.
They have one hundred and twelve left with only two
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and a half rotation pieces. Now when someone else steps up,
when someone else starts growing consistently six innings, this team
will vault to the top of this division, just like
they have every other year.
Speaker 1 (02:19:21):
Because this bullpen is ridiculous. I think I.
Speaker 8 (02:19:26):
Didn't check today, but I think it's the lowest dra
in baseball right now, and if not, it's one of
the best. And they just bring out a cavalcade of arms.
Speaker 15 (02:19:39):
Now, I might go against the trend here and say
if they could add another bullpen arm, that would stretch
that out. Now, all of a sudden, you have six
guys in the back of that bullpen with King and Oker.
Speaker 1 (02:19:55):
And Ort already with a Braye and Hater.
Speaker 8 (02:20:00):
You have six guys in that pen. Now, all of
a sudden, you can go four deep almost every game
with two guys getting arrest. It's a luxury. It's a luxury.
But I say that because I don't know that there's
a starter that the Astros are.
Speaker 1 (02:20:15):
Gonna go get until the end of July. And in this.
Speaker 8 (02:20:19):
Division, the end of July might be too late. But
we will see real.
Speaker 6 (02:20:24):
Quick here, Eric, before we gets you out the door,
one of our listeners, Trevor, wanted to ask about Opening Day,
the tumble out of the dugout, what do you remember
from it.
Speaker 15 (02:20:34):
I remember that somebody said nobody will take a dive
on opening day and I was like, huh, yeah, right,
and lic Gregor saying goes, you won't do it for
a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (02:20:46):
I said huh.
Speaker 8 (02:20:47):
And then Scott Feldman.
Speaker 15 (02:20:50):
Came into the dug at the same time and goes,
who's doing well for one thousand dollars. I'll put one
thousand dollars on it. They were like two grand you
won't take a dive. I'm like in my head and
I'm like please, I'd taken a dive for two hundred
and fifty dollars, so they would go. Eric Kratz number
twenty three, just like Jordan made it back, ran up
the stairs, tripsky, tripsky.
Speaker 8 (02:21:12):
The girl who was holding the flag. If you watch
the video, the girl who was holding the flag, she goes,
oh no, but she never never moved. I mean watching
the video, she never moved, but I never hear her.
I'll never forget her say oh nor ran out gainst
my five. We were playing my previous team, the world
champion twenty fifteen Royals and they were all excited about it.
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They loved it, and I got.
Speaker 5 (02:21:37):
Two grand there you go.
Speaker 6 (02:21:39):
Well, sometimes taking a dive does payoff for sure. Eric
Kratz again, foul Territory TV. It's part of my daily routine,
finish up the show, head home, tun you guys on you,
Scott Braun, aj Brazinski, Todd Frazier, Lonaizzo part of it
as well.
Speaker 5 (02:21:54):
It's it's it's a great.
Speaker 6 (02:21:56):
Product to follow every single day podcast as well. So Eric,
I really appreciate it, man, great stuff, and we'll definitely
call you up here.
Speaker 5 (02:22:03):
Again here very soon.
Speaker 1 (02:22:06):
Please do it.
Speaker 8 (02:22:06):
Thanks me.
Speaker 5 (02:22:07):
I appreciate it again, Eric Kratz. See, that's the thing.
Speaker 6 (02:22:10):
You love the guys that are game to be able
to you know, you won't do this like hell, I
won't for one hundred and fifty bucks, as you said.
You know, he's down for the guys. So loved that
conversation with Eric. All Right, obviously you could tell we
went way over, so we'll step aside react to some
of the things he said. The Christian Walker thing I
thought was really interesting. We'll discuss here. It is Sean
(02:22:31):
Salisbury Show.
Speaker 2 (02:22:34):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 6 (02:22:38):
You know, willing to take the risk for. But there's
also like certain other things.
Speaker 5 (02:22:42):
You know.
Speaker 6 (02:22:42):
It's like if you if you make me try to
eat a bug or something that's not happening five bucks
right now.
Speaker 5 (02:22:48):
No, no bugs, no, Balie, tell me to do something
five bucks, I'll do it. No bugs. I'm like Dan,
no bugs.
Speaker 7 (02:22:53):
No, but just think about it during the commercial break.
Whatever you want me to do, five bucks, I'll do
it for the rest of the show.
Speaker 6 (02:22:58):
Yeah, I mean, it's there is you know, it's meat loaf,
set it best. I will do anything for love, but
I won't do that's that's that's one of those like
like spicy stuff, like you know, I bet you won't
eat that pepper.
Speaker 5 (02:23:09):
I'm definitely in.
Speaker 7 (02:23:10):
I have done the fire in the whole challenge three
times of Pluckers, just because if I want to have
one of my friends did that.
Speaker 2 (02:23:17):
I was bored.
Speaker 7 (02:23:18):
Literally, someone said, I bet you want to do it? Okay, cool.
I didn't even do it for money. And that's the
worst part is I to pay for it afterwards soon enough, though.
Speaker 6 (02:23:24):
I mean, I feel like the numbing kind of happens,
like it's almost like you know, you drink enough bourbons
that soon enough like you can still sort of taste it,
or like you know, vodka soda. I call it the
water effect that you finally get to a point like
where you know it just basically just tastes like water.
Speaker 7 (02:23:38):
Literally, I have the taste buds of a sixty year
cigarette smoker.
Speaker 5 (02:23:42):
Anything hot, it can't taste anymore.
Speaker 6 (02:23:44):
That's a good thing to have, but it's also not
so good for the insides either, you know. That's that's
another story for another time. But anyway, as you can tell,
we obviously ran over with Eric, so Brian, I do
know that you want to get in on that. A
couple of things that Eric did bring up that I
thought were great points that I do want to talk
about with the astros.
Speaker 5 (02:24:01):
So let's do that. Let's make sure the bosses are
happy with us.
Speaker 6 (02:24:04):
In terms of, hey, you got to get out on time,
all of those different types of things.
Speaker 5 (02:24:08):
We'll do that.
Speaker 6 (02:24:08):
Here it is The Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven
to ninety for the Sean Salisbury Show. Continued of talking
about with Christian Walker, and a lot of it makes
sense too, because you know all the things we said
about he and East Soak Perettis Oh man, that swing,
that that left field porch, You're just gonna see the
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power ball just jump off their bats, and you almost
kind of feel like that maybe that started to creep
into his mind a little bit of oh man, I
can just go to left field and I got one
right here, changing things, changing the approach, doing all those
different things that maybe slowly and surely starting to get
back to what's made him him of talking about, Oh
his power is the right center field. He's hitting it
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that way, then the swing's going good.
Speaker 7 (02:24:52):
Look, we have a president of the Jake Myers fan
club here. I am going to be the self proclaimed
president of the Christian Walker fan kelub.
Speaker 5 (02:24:59):
I'm totally fine with now. I'm totally okay with him.
Speaker 7 (02:25:01):
With him, I will ride and down with him because
I rote and doe with him with last season when
he was in Arizona. I thought that he deserved an
All Star bid, he didn't get it, and I thought
that the second of the Asters were going to make
a ploy for a first basement go after him. So
I stand by it. Defensively, he has earned his spot
on the field. There's reasons why you've stayed in games
because of Christian Walker. And it has nothing to do
with the offensive side. The other thing though, that when
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it comes to the Jose Bray you nonsense, is Jose
A Bray you wasn't making contact. He was just striking out.
He was swinging outside the zone. He was missing easy
pitches at eighty four miles because if he was late.
Speaker 5 (02:25:35):
That's not what Christian Walker's doing.
Speaker 7 (02:25:36):
Christian Walker is just not driving the ball to his
sweet spots. He's late behind it on his swing and
so it goes to left field when you want to
go to centerfield. It's a little bit when it comes
to his approach to the plate. He's swinging low on
sliders and on changeups when he probably needs to go
ahead and have a higher arc. But at least he's
making contact with it. So is change of scenery a
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big problem?
Speaker 5 (02:25:59):
Possibly?
Speaker 7 (02:26:00):
Is it just the fact that where he's sitting in
the lineup is a little bit different being in the
same rotation where for the last six seven years you've
been in Arizona with a very consensus lineup that you've
been used in the custom of playing with, whether it
be Catl Marte and any Hango Suarez, and they can
throw in what you've seen over the last few years
of Corbyn.
Speaker 5 (02:26:17):
Carrol, maybe that's been beneficial to you.
Speaker 7 (02:26:21):
I agree with Eric in the sense of I don't
think that we're that far off from getting Christian Walker
back to maybe not what he was last season, but
an identity to where you feel proper enough to where
it does seem like it was a win of a
move to be able to feel like that you sign
him on a three year contract. Again, defensively, he is,
so he is still earning his key. I think that
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as soon as he starts to dry the ball, whether
it be the right center field, whether it be just
a straight center and he's not pulling it to the
left side, you're in a better spot to where you're
not gonna get the home runs, but you may get
a few more extra base hits, which again, that was
what I wanted the Astros to sign him for the
fact that he is a first baseman that can say
it outside the park, but he also has great defense
and enough speed to make it.
Speaker 6 (02:27:03):
A second well, I mean at least the you know
first you know, the last two things you were just
talking about, I mean, we're seeing those, it's just the
consistency with the first part is the problem that a
lot of us are hanging on pitching wise. I mean,
obviously we agree where I mean the starting pitching, you know,
just the subtractions that you're starting to have there from
injuries is starting to pile up. And and it's also
(02:27:25):
too it's going to it's going to leak over to
the bullpen because even as good as Okret and any
of these other guys have been, you trot them out
there more and more times, there's much more of a
book on them.
Speaker 5 (02:27:34):
I what do I go after? What do I lay
off of?
Speaker 6 (02:27:37):
And you start to see other teams start to have
some success I mean, and it's also to the fatigue
factor that kind of starts to come in.
Speaker 7 (02:27:44):
What's also the fact that when you talk about like quarterbacks,
so once you get more film on them, you can
kind of base off of how good they're going to be.
Speaker 5 (02:27:49):
Like we argued that CJ.
Speaker 7 (02:27:50):
Stroud or now Jayden Daniels, let's wait two three years
before we decide to crown them at top ten passer
in the game. Because the more film you get on them,
the more you're able to see what works and what doesn't,
how we can combat them, and how we can put
them in a position of tragedy. It's the same thing
with relief pitchers. Steven Oaker looked really good to begin
the season. Well, now you got multiple innings on him
(02:28:11):
to see what works and what does and what pictures
you can crank.
Speaker 6 (02:28:14):
Someone three two and two five seven ninety. Let's head
down the Parland. Brian wants to weigh in. Good morning, Brian,
Hey morning Dan.
Speaker 15 (02:28:22):
I it was good to hear you real quick.
Speaker 14 (02:28:24):
Dan.
Speaker 23 (02:28:24):
I know you and I went back and forth on
X here and for those people that were I guess
we're before the nine o'clock hour, there was talking about
the Texans and ripping down the dome. I looked it
up and as of twenty fourteen, the astronome is a
registered historical landmark.
Speaker 8 (02:28:39):
It cannot come down.
Speaker 23 (02:28:41):
It has to be renovated and redeveloped, but it cannot
come down. The problem is, and I know this, I
do have some intimate knowledge of what's going on, not completely,
but I have informed information that there's too much of
a power struggle between the Houston Rodeo and the Texans
and the sports authority and they all have to agree
(02:29:03):
on it.
Speaker 8 (02:29:03):
And apparently that doesn't.
Speaker 23 (02:29:05):
Seem like it will ever happen in terms of what
to do with it. I think the Texans would love
to repurpose it for a parking lot and parking garage whatever,
or like if you ever been outside a Soldier field,
like they have like a little plaza across the lay
where they have like a tailgate area and games and
all that.
Speaker 18 (02:29:26):
And make it that way.
Speaker 23 (02:29:27):
But I don't think the Rodeo wants that to happen,
and so it's just a huge mess in terms of
getting them all together. So tearing down the Astronome and
redoing it and rebuilding the new Texans Stadium there just isn't.
Speaker 8 (02:29:40):
Gonna happen because it can't happen.
Speaker 23 (02:29:43):
When it comes to Christian Walker. I also wonder how
much of this is new League, new Division. I know
there's interleague play, but when you don't see these guys
on a routine basis George Kirby's in which so much
spin in the game, I think sometimes there's just an
adjustment period of I got to see some of these
pitchers once or twice and actually see the ball come
out of their hand more than maybe once every three
(02:30:06):
seasons when I might face him an interleague play.
Speaker 1 (02:30:08):
I wonder how much of that'll.
Speaker 8 (02:30:10):
Be and work.
Speaker 23 (02:30:10):
I still think he'll probably finish the season around two
fifty two sixty, which, hey, at this point I will take.
Speaker 8 (02:30:16):
But I hope he will snap found of it.
Speaker 23 (02:30:19):
And I'm hoping once you get your one bank, you
can move Walker a little bit lower in the lineup
and maybe that'll free him up a little bit. But yeah,
regarding the astronome, that's kind.
Speaker 5 (02:30:28):
Of what's going on with it.
Speaker 23 (02:30:29):
So if the Texans won something, they're either gonna have
to build bulldoz n RG and figure out something while
they build a new stadium, or go elsewhere, because the
astronome is a movie.
Speaker 6 (02:30:39):
Gotcha, guys, Hey appreciate the call, Brian. Yeah, I mean,
you know, we've touched on that a little bit earlier.
But with Walker, I mean, and you know, even one
of the things that Eric brought up with us, I mean,
new team, it's it's human nature. You want to be
able to come out of the gate with the cannon
shots and needed it a little bit at the beginning,
but then you started to see the strikeouts, piling up,
(02:31:01):
the runners in scoring position, all of these other things
kind of trying to play outside of the abilities that
he's got, and it's obviously yielded no results in that return.
Speaker 16 (02:31:10):
Well.
Speaker 7 (02:31:10):
Brandon also brought up a good point that when you
don't have a Yurnon Alvarez out there, you can't really
move him that much further down the lineup because who
are you moving up that's going to be able to
hit with the Rierson's scoring position.
Speaker 5 (02:31:20):
Yarner makes sense.
Speaker 7 (02:31:21):
Maybe if you were to have hal too may bat
in the five hole and then you have Walker in
the six hole, that could make sense. But you don't
have somebody right now that can be in that three
hole right behind the sock Pretties and Jeremy Panoes.
Speaker 5 (02:31:31):
That's why you have what you currently are dealing with.
Speaker 6 (02:31:33):
Yeah, and I mean the astros. You're hoping that the
offense starts to kind of turn a corner, especially to
when you factor in again, you know some of the
things that you're dealing with on the starting rotation side.
I mean, when it comes to it, it's, you know,
looking at this rotation, they will have to make a move.
I don't think there's any doubt about that. I just
think that if this team wants to try to be
(02:31:54):
able to keep base and maybe even pass Seattle and
keep the Rangers at arm's length. I mean, you're going
to have to have somebody that can come in here
and eat some innings. And I'm not talking about going
after a frontline guy. A. You don't have the guys
who go be able to go get that guy.
Speaker 14 (02:32:08):
But B.
Speaker 6 (02:32:09):
I mean it's also you already have the front end
of your rotation figured out. It's the back end right
now that you're having to worry about.
Speaker 7 (02:32:17):
Well, you and I were talking about this during a
commercial break. You Saiy Kacuci coming on in last year.
You give up Will Wagner, you give up a picture,
and you give up Joey Lo Braffito. None of those
guys were probably going to be a part of your
long term plan.
Speaker 5 (02:32:29):
And what did it do.
Speaker 7 (02:32:30):
It was a number four guy that got you over
the hump to win the Al West. That's what you
have to do to get rid of maybe a name
that's not going to be here for the long haul.
Speaker 18 (02:32:39):
So be it.
Speaker 7 (02:32:40):
If it gives you a number five starter that has
a three point six y five to four oer, you
pair that with what you have in the front line,
and maybe somebody breaks on out and you feel healthy.
That's good enough for me right now. That's fine right now,
and that's all I'm asking for at this point.
Speaker 6 (02:32:54):
Aggie, Doug will get you involved in the conversation. Also
a slight amount of college ball before we go out
the door, because me and you can't pair up without that,
because how do we not go on a local Ish program.
Was asked a question and their answer was no, we'll
talk about it here as it is the Sean Salisbury
Show Sports SOX seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:33:20):
Now back to to Sean Salisbury.
Speaker 5 (02:33:23):
I thought I probably told you that narmerous time.
Speaker 7 (02:33:25):
I was supposed to go to Same Pius in trouble
and then I got keep out of private school.
Speaker 5 (02:33:29):
That's a story. That's a story for a different day.
Speaker 6 (02:33:31):
Sometimes life has a funny way of working out well
for itself. But uh, anyway, Astro's nine to two winners
last night over the Mariners.
Speaker 5 (02:33:40):
They're gonna get back in action again tonight.
Speaker 6 (02:33:43):
Renel Blanco on the ale with inflammation in his right
elbow and the Thunder take a two to zero series
lead on the Timberwolves in the NBA's Western Conference Finals.
One three, two five seven ninety. The number to get in,
Aggie Dug. He wants to bring us up this morning,
ag you what's up?
Speaker 8 (02:34:01):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 9 (02:34:02):
Man? I was at the game last night, and I mean,
it was great to see that Lance got eight strikeouts.
I didn't even realize that when they pulled him.
Speaker 8 (02:34:10):
I was like, damn eight.
Speaker 9 (02:34:11):
I didn't realize that. But they were hitting the ball really,
really hard. So he's definitely missing some spots for sure.
I feel like he's basically learning how to pitch again
when he's out there. So I mean, that's definitely going
to be a you know hitter, you know, who knows
what's going to happen every time he pitches. I mean,
obviously have Hunter, you have you know, Framberg, and then
(02:34:34):
we kind of have to figure it out after that.
But I was talking to somebody at the game last night.
I just feel like the Astros are getting into the
Pittsburgh Steelers type of mode right now, where they're always
competitive every year, which is great for the fan base.
I'm not complaining. It's just that you're never going to
be able to bottom out and get those draft picks
(02:34:54):
that you need to push you into that next big run.
There's so many teams that basically, you know, do really well,
then they bought them out. You know, you think about
like even the Red Sox they've done that a couple
of times, The Nationals have done it a couple of times.
Even the Marlins have done it a couple of times.
And obviously the Marlins are trash and the Nationals. But
and I don't want to get to that point. So
(02:35:16):
it's kind of like, you know, it's a double edged sword.
Speaker 6 (02:35:19):
Do we.
Speaker 9 (02:35:20):
Do we you know, just suck enough to where we're
not going to be competitive at the trade deadline and
we can trade some of those guys away. Or do
you actually just kind of like like Paul was saying,
is that you just kind of keep feeding that that
we need a fourth or fifth starter, We need this guy,
we need this small bat, we need the left head
to bat. You know, I just feel like the Astros
(02:35:43):
aren't dominant anymore, and in order to be dominant.
Speaker 5 (02:35:46):
You got to have those guys.
Speaker 9 (02:35:48):
And you got to get those guys to the draft
because I don't think we're going to.
Speaker 6 (02:35:50):
Sign them well and aging before you go. I mean,
I feel like part of that's already been done. I mean,
the Kyle Tucker trade I feel like was being able
to get back to what you're talking about right.
Speaker 9 (02:36:04):
No, with Cam Smith, obviously he's Cam Smith and Descenzo.
I think those guys, if you can plug those guys
for the next seven years, is your corner outfielders.
Speaker 1 (02:36:12):
I think we're golden.
Speaker 18 (02:36:14):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (02:36:14):
And then if you probably signed resigned Jake Myers to
A to A, I mean, I guess an okay contract,
he's having a great year.
Speaker 5 (02:36:21):
He's gonna get a contract. Man, That's the only.
Speaker 9 (02:36:23):
Thing I'm gonna have to Yeah and so and so.
I guess from my perspective, you got your outfield. They're
pretty young, but you're gonna have to start getting some
younger guys on the infield. You know, Al two A
is not gonna be around very long. You're not gonna
probably be able to re sign your don and you know,
and then you kind of go from there. Do you
(02:36:45):
look at possibly trying to trade him? Uh, you know,
to kind of replenish the system, because I just think
the way the Astros, I mean, obviously they've been extremely successful,
so you can't complain about the the the results, but
they're I just I feel like the other shoe's going
to drop and when it does, I feel it's going
to end really badly.
Speaker 5 (02:37:05):
Now I appreciate the call. I mean, I get what
you're saying.
Speaker 6 (02:37:07):
I just you do run into a situation where you
have to take inventory of where you are as a team.
And that's why sometimes you will get organizations that they
make trades they you know, allow guys to leave in
free agency. I mean, where you know the fan base
is looking at them and saying, well, wait a minute,
what are you doing. You don't have to do this
because they asked and answer the question to themselves of
(02:37:29):
are we competitive? Are we chasing something that's just not there?
And if you answer yes to that, then it's okay,
well then let's go this route. But then it's a
somewhat painful process that me and you were just talking
about during the break, if you do it right.
Speaker 5 (02:37:43):
Look at the Astros.
Speaker 6 (02:37:44):
They finally decided in twenty eleven about even before that,
I think it was ten was when they traded uh
Berkman away. But during that time, it was when they
finally just admitted to themselves, this just isn't happening, like
we need we need to go a different direction and
try this again in a few years. In twenty fifteen
is when you were able to be competitive again. So
(02:38:05):
if you decide to go that route, it's a couple
of years where it's man, this burns. But then it's
also two Like I remember that twenty fourteen season where
it was starting to see some of these guys come up,
I see the promise, and in twenty fifteen it was, oh,
we got postseason baseball again.
Speaker 5 (02:38:21):
This rules two things.
Speaker 7 (02:38:22):
Number One, you still have to be competitive at the
time that you think of the windows open. If you
think that there's enough of a window open for the Astros,
you can't be trading away all of your progressive talent
right now. Number Two, you also have to realize that
when you struggle a lot of these players, are they
going to resign or are they going to want to
hit the open market.
Speaker 5 (02:38:40):
If they want to.
Speaker 7 (02:38:41):
Resign, your windows so open. So how many of these
guys are actually leaving in the offseason. As for yourd On,
there's no rush. He's not a free agent until twenty
twenty nine, so he's not going anywhere. Jose al Tuva
is not going anywhere.
Speaker 6 (02:38:52):
The Astros have the pieces, it's just it's they need
to be able to probably make a move here for
a starting pitcher, and hopefully they can do that sooner
rather than later. Cole Thompson, you're the best, buddy. Appreciate it.
Don't forget too the a team later on this afternoon
three fifteen, John is going to be joining them. Well
maybe step into the room right there with the couch,
get yourself in that, but triple Emmanuel Elmore, you're the best, buddy.
Speaker 5 (02:39:15):
Have a great weekend.
Speaker 6 (02:39:16):
Dan Matthews, we will talk to you all in more
than sixty eight hours. Have a great weekend, everybody,
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