July 8, 2025 • 14 mins
Dwindling down to the final games before the All-star break tees off in Atlanta and coming back down to Earth from their outstanding holiday weekend in Los Angeles, the Astros lose their series opener taking on the Guardians' yesterday evening with a final score of 7-5. Still leading the AL West division and still holding their rank at 2nd in the American League roughly 3 games back behind the Tigers Sean, Dan, & Chris evaluate yesterday's small setback and how yesterday's loss could be fuel to the fire rolling into and coming out of the All-star break.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Tuesday edition of to Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk
seven to ninety. That means our good buddy Chris Gordy
Carbock Brewing, he drops by for his weekly visit, Gordy Astros.
We've got to SEC media Days coming up next week,
and of course, I mean you will be out in
Atlanta for that All Star Game going on too. But
talked about a little bit earlier. You had a lineup
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last night that had one through five that looks pretty
similar to what it usually is. Obviously no Christian Walker
with paternity leave, but you get the number six hitter
Cooper Hummel, the number seven hitter Taylor Tremmel, eight Zach Short,
and then nine Kennedy Corona. I mean, I understand a
loss is a loss, and it's going to frustrate people,
But what are we doing here A certain.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, it's the sugar line Astros.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I mean, that's that's what they but that's what they
are right now, that's what they're going to be this week.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I predicted that.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yesterday, you know, on with with Matt and Rausin, I
was saying, I think they feel so good coming out
of the last week where you swept the Dodgers. You
beat the car you beat you know, like you beat
the Phillies. You did all these great things. And then
you come back for the home stretch, six games to
go before the All Star break, and it's the Guardians
and the Rangers. I think they feel pretty good about
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kind of catching their breath this week. And so that's
why I wasn't surprised where they go. You know what,
We're gonna give Jake Myers an extra day. We're gonna
give this guy an extra day. You know what, Let's
get Kennedy Corona in there, get his feet wet. So
it's not to say that they're throwing in the towel
and quitting, because they fought last night. They tied it
up and battled back. But it just kind of that's
the vibe I kind of get with these games this week.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
And I and if that is the vibe, if that
was real, I hate it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Now I don't hate that the the because the other
guy has been great for this team this year. I'm
not It's not even that I don't trust those guys
to go in and play tremmell and to hit a home,
to play good baseball. But I'm not forget the rapper,
the person, the mindset. As I told you earlier, I
think it would be a major mistake to take a
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sigh of relief five games to go before the other.
We play them and they count. What if, okay, let
me ask you this. What if you go one and
five and Seattle goes five and one. How many games
they gain on him? Four?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Three game lead within three to start with them up
there in Seattle?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Why wouldn't you treat this just like you did going
to Dodger Stadium. That's what the All Star breaks for Rest.
That doesn't mean one hundred and forty pitches for a
starting pitcher. But I'm rolling out what I think gives
me the best chance to win with my healthy players
every day. And if that means Tremmel, great, If that
means Dubond great, If that means Jake Myers, great. Cam
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Smith doesn't need a rest, he's a kid. Play him.
I I just am adamantly against taking that deep sigh.
And I don't even know if the Astles are doing this.
And I don't excuse I suggesting, right, but you can't.
You can't get casual, can't last night.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's okay tonight the regulars are all back in there,
and it's okay, let's let's we got to get serious here.
But I don't know, it's just kind of the vibe
I got with him. Uh you, well, have they earned it?
I mean you know, I'm not saying earned what earned
a little bit of a We don't cap that the
season of the great opponent? No, I get it, I'm
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not And again I'm not saying just throwing the towel,
but I'm just saying, like, could Jake, Like, if absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Necessary, could Jake Myers have played last night? Maybe?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
You know, if he's not healthy, don't play him. If
he's healthy, why am I resting him? I got the
Aul Star break, he's not going the All Star Game.
I know those four bats are a bitch, but come
on now, So so you both are sit on the
opposite side of me that it's okay to breathe a
sigh and say, even if we go two and four,
we're good.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Well, I know this. I got Hunter Brown tonight. I
feel pretty damn good.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Well, you could probably play with four guys behind him.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Okay, that I get Saturday. You love from Er, So
you feel pretty good about that one. So those are two.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Right, Okay, what have all of a sudden? They what
have all of a sudden? They said, you know what,
Hunter's had an All Star first half. Let's give him
a break, throw him two innings or not pitch him.
I think he'd want to go in there and fight him.
I don't think he's taking them out tonight thinking we
got some cushion. I think he's going out there to
mow your ass down. Plus those guys that they're playing
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that that Seattle, Let's see who do we got after Cleveland?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
The range?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
You got the range? I don't for me, that's your
head into the All Star break playing that team. I
want to bury their ass whoever it's with. My point
is it's not necessarily the bodies, it's the approach. I
don't think you can be casual. Five games may mean
the difference in October or September.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It just I I mean, I mean, you got guys
like Colton Gordon, you know, young guys that are being
taxed more than they've ever been taxed. I mean, don't
you feel like, I mean, there's a certain point where
you're gonna have to kind of give some guys a
little bit of a break.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Because camp Smith is.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Going to play the most baseball he's ever played in
his career this year, most games. He's never played this
many in college or you know, barely playing the minors.
So I think that's part of it too. I think
part of it is kind of was hit the halfway point.
Let's kind of give her by a little bit of
a break, catch her breath now.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Two day a day off, no problem, myers. If he
was banged up a little bit needed, I get it.
I'm talking about fully healthy guests. And no, I actually
don't have no, no offense. I know it's more games
than he's ever played, but I don't have like, man,
what if we wear camp Smith out if he was six,
if he was thirty nine, the different story. He's twenty
two years old or whatever, twenty one years old, whatever
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he is.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Well, the problem I always had with that argument too,
is like eventually you're gonna have to write so it's
always like this. You know, it's like a starring quarterback
in the NFL. He's plays most games he's ever played. Okay, well,
when is he if we give him a break? Now,
when is he going to get to that point where
he could go the.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Full right length. Yeah, how do you build him up
to now? I listen pitchers at eighty nine pitches, ninety
pitches starting to labor a little bit, get him out, yeah,
or guys got a little hammy, get him out, don't
play him. I get that. Like I said, for me,
it's not the bodies. I just am trying to guard
against the mindset that the next six games last night,
in the next five are hall past night, our hall
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past games. Hey, it won't really matter. It won't matter
if we losing, they lose, but it will matter if
you get four games gained on you because you're The
approach is catchup. I just don't see Dana Brown and
Joe Aspota, depending on the bodies. I don't think they're
going in like, well, the All Star breaks started yesterday.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Well, I mean, and I get what you're saying though too,
But I mean to also Gordy's point about I want
this team playing their best baseball in August and September.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
How can do you are you as sure that that
casually rolling in the All Star Break is gonna give them? No,
it doesn't guarantee, And why would I take somebody out
of the lineup that's sizzling. I'm milking it for all
I get. Listen, four days off that they'll get off
Monday Tuesday for those that are playing Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday and get traveling on Thursday to get to their ball.
But wherever they go in baseball on Friday. I mean,
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it's it and there's neither. There's not a right or
wrong answer for me. The right answer, though, is if
you're healthy, we scheduled one hundred and sixty two of them.
I'm gonna give you the days off when necessary. The
All Star break gives me. Pitching's a little different, of course,
I don't want to tax them open. But for me,
if I was a player, I'm your starting right fielder.
How you feel, what do you mean? How I feel?
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I'll see you in the lineup for the next five days.
That's how I feel. And it's just I just and
I know you want to. You got to get guys
rest along the year on the scheduled days off. And
it's not even the guy, it's the approach. I can't.
If you've checked out and you're thinking All Star break,
you will play like it. In any say, you will
play like you've checked out, and I assure you if
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you take a casual somewhere somehow, it will it will
backfire on you. You may not win them all, even
if you're going all in. My point is, I think
it's a mindset, not necessarily who the bodies are that
are out there.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Real quick here over under August first, you're on back?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yes or no? August first first. He still hasn't picked
up a bat yet, right.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Give me the over.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I told you, I told I'd said it last week
with you guys.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I said, let me know, like when he's when he's
in the lineup, then I'll get excited. But like he's on,
he's he's out a side out of mind to me
right now, Like I'm I'm moving on without your.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Whenever. That's yeah, you have no choice.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I I couldn't get it over the semantics of the
the statement that was released last week, where it was like, hey,
Astros have released some.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Encouraging news for your No. I'm like, okay, what's the
encouraging news.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
They're like, well, he had some he saw a new
specialist and he did some injections in his hand. It's like, oh, okay,
what's the same injections he had before. Oh, okay, so
let's have this before. Okay, and good news. That fracture
it's basically not even a problem anymore. It's not even
giving him pain. Well, was it fully healed? Well, we
can't tell you. But the pain he's having is not
from the fracture. Okay, Well that's great. What's the pain from, Well,
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the pain is from the inflammation.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
What the hell's the inflammation from the fracture?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Well, the inflammation he was having before, because you know,
he would hit and he'd feel good, but then the
next day the inflammation and then pain, and it's like,
so nothing's improved.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Like we're in this like circle of like you can
tell him he's fine, but.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Like, well we had to shut him down. Why'd you
shut him out because of inflammation? Why does he have
an inflammation?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
It's like it's we're talking in circles here and so
that when I read that, I just like they called
it encouraging, and I'm like, I don't know what's encouraging
about that. All it is was a new doctor came
in and said, yep, it's inflammation.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well, how do you fix inflammation?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
And then you know what I could take from that is,
are you telling me the Jordans can't handle pain if
I'm saying, well, the inflam and you don't normally if
it's inflammation, you don't shut him down. You take a day.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah I said that.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
The next day you come try it again. Right, that's it.
That's how inflammation. The reason I could speak expert on
that is because from surgery after surgery lived what's from
scar tissue to inflammation? I get it. But if you're
giving the shot, you're giving a shot for what to
be pain free or to take like certain medicines that
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lessen the inflammation. We know what those are, and ice.
Ice is one of those two, the great elixir. Right.
And then so you're your one hundred percent correct, what
is the pecking order of how didn't one begat the
other that begat the other that the fracture started? Then
work and it bothers you and then all of a sudden,
well it's inflame because there's a sore area, so it
gets inflamed. Now that the it's healing down there, the
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inflammation is still there. So you take a little time off. Okay,
now why are you coming back? He went out and
hit batty prede, Well, what's wrong, Well, it's inflamed, but
you shut him down because the pain or is it inflammation?
Is it just because it looks bigger? You got to
cankle down as you know when you got to do
big ankles, like, well is it blown out? Well, it's
it's bothering him, but the ankle's healed, but it's still inflammation.
Give him a shot before the game, go play to that.
(10:53):
That's why I.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Think it was two months ago Dana said that They're like, yeah,
I mean he's doing fine.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Like he was.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
He was there hitting, he was in the cages today,
he was hidden and he looked great. But then it
was the next day he came in and said, oh,
I'm having pain. So then okay, so we gotta saw
it down a little bit. But it was like, it's like,
have we made any progress since that?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And other than the fracture is probably healed by down.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Like no doubt. And you know what sometimes happens to
how you get inflammation is when you're playing when you're
still hurt is mechanics change. Think about a quarterback throwing
in a certain case that when he gets into his
normal armslot, it bothers him. So what's if you're playing
through it, what's the natural reaction? Like, think about when
you're sleeping on one side and you're like, man, my
left siatical you roll over. It's like, oh, this feels great.
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I can see you stay there. But the sciatic was
sore because well, it's like when you have knee injury.
You know what hurts next because you're favoring it your
left hip. Oh well my left hip. Why well I'm
favored Okay, of course the inflammation's coming from that. There's
no structurally wrong inflammation. Will how's this threshold of pain?
I don't know. Man, give me a pill, let me
go play. You know, you know, archaic thinking, but I
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get it. But yeah, it's just it's it's a numbering.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Tread to he wasn't ain't good and so like that's
the other part of this too, is let's say we
get him back somewhere mid late August. What if he's
not a good like? So that's why I say, like mentally, was,
I'm moving on from you and you gotta I gotta
build this team.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
We gotta win names.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
And Gordy, you gotta convince your players. They all want
Jordan back, of course, but with the guys. Like I said,
I'm coaching and managing and playing the guys that are
here in uniform. Not that we don't want him back,
but you also have to convince your players they're good
enough to win without him. It can't be the crutch
of yeah man, because and they're playing like they can
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win without him, so they're not. Obviously they're not thinking
about that. But you can't get locked into thinking, well,
without yord On, what are we gonna do. You have
to convince them, guys, they're so damn good that we
can win a World Series without him, whether it's true
or not, that's what you psychologically have to convince him.
You got to convince Tremmel that he can start in
left field and be a regular every day and kick ass,
and that you go.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
He goes, guys, we don't need you, got me.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
You're not gonna right now now out loud. He's gonna say, hell, yeah,
we need your done. At home, he's probably talking to
his wife or girlfriend. Have you. I say, you know what
I belong here, and that's I am.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Carnival's freaking humble. Guys, Get behind me.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Let's go I could argue that Cooper's having a better
season than you're done right now, I'm kidding, but you
get my point. You need him, but you've got to
convince yourself that you can win without him, and right now,
to me, you've got no choice because he's not in uniform.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well, you get five more games this week, you get
no Astros baseball next week until Friday. It's still a
great time for all of us to be drinking Crawford back.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I was talking about Budd who was at the game
last night, and he said, Uh, I think I know
why we lost.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I didn't have a Crawford Bak. So you went to
the game, you didn't have a Crawford Bok.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
What were you thinking.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
So if you go into the baseball game this week,
obviously a handful of home games left before the All
Star Break, get to dyke in Park, get your Crawford
bach and let's root on the Astros.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Let's get let's get this series.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
One tonight with Hunter Brown and when tomorrow when another
series feel pretty good.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
So goes perfectly with Astros baseball.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Whatever you have in there at the ballpark, of course,
dollar dog Night, whatever it is, get yourself a craw
from Carbock Brewing Berg right here in.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Houston, Texas.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I mean, I think that was the key to Friday's
game eighteen one, is that Crawford block was facing I was.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Over at Carbock on was that Thursday, and then won
that one, and there you go, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Good stuff, but appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Chris Gordy joins us every single Tuesday and Thursday here
courtesy of Carbach Brewing. A couple of things though, that
we just talked about right there will carry over to
the other side as we continue the Astros conversation on
a Tuesday Sports Talk seven ninety
The Tuesday edition of to Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk
seven to ninety. That means our good buddy Chris Gordy
Carbock Brewing, he drops by for his weekly visit, Gordy Astros.
We've got to SEC media Days coming up next week,
and of course, I mean you will be out in
Atlanta for that All Star Game going on too. But
talked about a little bit earlier. You had a lineup
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last night that had one through five that looks pretty
similar to what it usually is. Obviously no Christian Walker
with paternity leave, but you get the number six hitter
Cooper Hummel, the number seven hitter Taylor Tremmel, eight Zach Short,
and then nine Kennedy Corona. I mean, I understand a
loss is a loss, and it's going to frustrate people,
But what are we doing here A certain.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, it's the sugar line Astros.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I mean, that's that's what they but that's what they
are right now, that's what they're going to be this week.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I predicted that.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yesterday, you know, on with with Matt and Rausin, I
was saying, I think they feel so good coming out
of the last week where you swept the Dodgers. You
beat the car you beat you know, like you beat
the Phillies. You did all these great things. And then
you come back for the home stretch, six games to
go before the All Star break, and it's the Guardians
and the Rangers. I think they feel pretty good about
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kind of catching their breath this week. And so that's
why I wasn't surprised where they go. You know what,
We're gonna give Jake Myers an extra day. We're gonna
give this guy an extra day. You know what, Let's
get Kennedy Corona in there, get his feet wet. So
it's not to say that they're throwing in the towel
and quitting, because they fought last night. They tied it
up and battled back. But it just kind of that's
the vibe I kind of get with these games this week.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
And I and if that is the vibe, if that
was real, I hate it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Now I don't hate that the the because the other
guy has been great for this team this year. I'm
not It's not even that I don't trust those guys
to go in and play tremmell and to hit a home,
to play good baseball. But I'm not forget the rapper,
the person, the mindset. As I told you earlier, I
think it would be a major mistake to take a
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sigh of relief five games to go before the other.
We play them and they count. What if, okay, let
me ask you this. What if you go one and
five and Seattle goes five and one. How many games
they gain on him? Four?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Three game lead within three to start with them up
there in Seattle?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Why wouldn't you treat this just like you did going
to Dodger Stadium. That's what the All Star breaks for Rest.
That doesn't mean one hundred and forty pitches for a
starting pitcher. But I'm rolling out what I think gives
me the best chance to win with my healthy players
every day. And if that means Tremmel, great, If that
means Dubond great, If that means Jake Myers, great. Cam
(02:42):
Smith doesn't need a rest, he's a kid. Play him.
I I just am adamantly against taking that deep sigh.
And I don't even know if the Astles are doing this.
And I don't excuse I suggesting, right, but you can't.
You can't get casual, can't last night.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's okay tonight the regulars are all back in there,
and it's okay, let's let's we got to get serious here.
But I don't know, it's just kind of the vibe
I got with him. Uh you, well, have they earned it?
I mean you know, I'm not saying earned what earned
a little bit of a We don't cap that the
season of the great opponent? No, I get it, I'm
(03:23):
not And again I'm not saying just throwing the towel,
but I'm just saying, like, could Jake, Like, if absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Necessary, could Jake Myers have played last night? Maybe?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
You know, if he's not healthy, don't play him. If
he's healthy, why am I resting him? I got the
Aul Star break, he's not going the All Star Game.
I know those four bats are a bitch, but come
on now, So so you both are sit on the
opposite side of me that it's okay to breathe a
sigh and say, even if we go two and four,
we're good.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Well, I know this. I got Hunter Brown tonight. I
feel pretty damn good.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Well, you could probably play with four guys behind him.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Okay, that I get Saturday. You love from Er, So
you feel pretty good about that one. So those are two.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Right, Okay, what have all of a sudden? They what
have all of a sudden? They said, you know what,
Hunter's had an All Star first half. Let's give him
a break, throw him two innings or not pitch him.
I think he'd want to go in there and fight him.
I don't think he's taking them out tonight thinking we
got some cushion. I think he's going out there to
mow your ass down. Plus those guys that they're playing
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that that Seattle, Let's see who do we got after Cleveland?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
The range?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
You got the range? I don't for me, that's your
head into the All Star break playing that team. I
want to bury their ass whoever it's with. My point
is it's not necessarily the bodies, it's the approach. I
don't think you can be casual. Five games may mean
the difference in October or September.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It just I I mean, I mean, you got guys
like Colton Gordon, you know, young guys that are being
taxed more than they've ever been taxed. I mean, don't
you feel like, I mean, there's a certain point where
you're gonna have to kind of give some guys a
little bit of a break.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Because camp Smith is.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Going to play the most baseball he's ever played in
his career this year, most games. He's never played this
many in college or you know, barely playing the minors.
So I think that's part of it too. I think
part of it is kind of was hit the halfway point.
Let's kind of give her by a little bit of
a break, catch her breath now.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Two day a day off, no problem, myers. If he
was banged up a little bit needed, I get it.
I'm talking about fully healthy guests. And no, I actually
don't have no, no offense. I know it's more games
than he's ever played, but I don't have like, man,
what if we wear camp Smith out if he was six,
if he was thirty nine, the different story. He's twenty
two years old or whatever, twenty one years old, whatever
(05:38):
he is.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Well, the problem I always had with that argument too,
is like eventually you're gonna have to write so it's
always like this. You know, it's like a starring quarterback
in the NFL. He's plays most games he's ever played. Okay, well,
when is he if we give him a break? Now,
when is he going to get to that point where
he could go the.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Full right length. Yeah, how do you build him up
to now? I listen pitchers at eighty nine pitches, ninety
pitches starting to labor a little bit, get him out, yeah,
or guys got a little hammy, get him out, don't
play him. I get that. Like I said, for me,
it's not the bodies. I just am trying to guard
against the mindset that the next six games last night,
in the next five are hall past night, our hall
(06:14):
past games. Hey, it won't really matter. It won't matter
if we losing, they lose, but it will matter if
you get four games gained on you because you're The
approach is catchup. I just don't see Dana Brown and
Joe Aspota, depending on the bodies. I don't think they're
going in like, well, the All Star breaks started yesterday.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Well, I mean, and I get what you're saying though too,
But I mean to also Gordy's point about I want
this team playing their best baseball in August and September.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
How can do you are you as sure that that
casually rolling in the All Star Break is gonna give them? No,
it doesn't guarantee, And why would I take somebody out
of the lineup that's sizzling. I'm milking it for all
I get. Listen, four days off that they'll get off
Monday Tuesday for those that are playing Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday and get traveling on Thursday to get to their ball.
But wherever they go in baseball on Friday. I mean,
(07:01):
it's it and there's neither. There's not a right or
wrong answer for me. The right answer, though, is if
you're healthy, we scheduled one hundred and sixty two of them.
I'm gonna give you the days off when necessary. The
All Star break gives me. Pitching's a little different, of course,
I don't want to tax them open. But for me,
if I was a player, I'm your starting right fielder.
How you feel, what do you mean? How I feel?
(07:21):
I'll see you in the lineup for the next five days.
That's how I feel. And it's just I just and
I know you want to. You got to get guys
rest along the year on the scheduled days off. And
it's not even the guy, it's the approach. I can't.
If you've checked out and you're thinking All Star break,
you will play like it. In any say, you will
play like you've checked out, and I assure you if
(07:43):
you take a casual somewhere somehow, it will it will
backfire on you. You may not win them all, even
if you're going all in. My point is, I think
it's a mindset, not necessarily who the bodies are that
are out there.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Real quick here over under August first, you're on back?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yes or no? August first first. He still hasn't picked
up a bat yet, right.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Give me the over.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I told you, I told I'd said it last week
with you guys.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I said, let me know, like when he's when he's
in the lineup, then I'll get excited. But like he's on,
he's he's out a side out of mind to me
right now, Like I'm I'm moving on without your.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Whenever. That's yeah, you have no choice.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I I couldn't get it over the semantics of the
the statement that was released last week, where it was like, hey,
Astros have released some.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Encouraging news for your No. I'm like, okay, what's the
encouraging news.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
They're like, well, he had some he saw a new
specialist and he did some injections in his hand. It's like, oh, okay,
what's the same injections he had before. Oh, okay, so
let's have this before. Okay, and good news. That fracture
it's basically not even a problem anymore. It's not even
giving him pain. Well, was it fully healed? Well, we
can't tell you. But the pain he's having is not
from the fracture. Okay, Well that's great. What's the pain from, Well,
(08:58):
the pain is from the inflammation.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
What the hell's the inflammation from the fracture?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Well, the inflammation he was having before, because you know,
he would hit and he'd feel good, but then the
next day the inflammation and then pain, and it's like,
so nothing's improved.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Like we're in this like circle of like you can
tell him he's fine, but.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Like, well we had to shut him down. Why'd you
shut him out because of inflammation? Why does he have
an inflammation?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
It's like it's we're talking in circles here and so
that when I read that, I just like they called
it encouraging, and I'm like, I don't know what's encouraging
about that. All it is was a new doctor came
in and said, yep, it's inflammation.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well, how do you fix inflammation?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
And then you know what I could take from that is,
are you telling me the Jordans can't handle pain if
I'm saying, well, the inflam and you don't normally if
it's inflammation, you don't shut him down. You take a day.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah I said that.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
The next day you come try it again. Right, that's it.
That's how inflammation. The reason I could speak expert on
that is because from surgery after surgery lived what's from
scar tissue to inflammation? I get it. But if you're
giving the shot, you're giving a shot for what to
be pain free or to take like certain medicines that
(10:10):
lessen the inflammation. We know what those are, and ice.
Ice is one of those two, the great elixir. Right.
And then so you're your one hundred percent correct, what
is the pecking order of how didn't one begat the
other that begat the other that the fracture started? Then
work and it bothers you and then all of a sudden,
well it's inflame because there's a sore area, so it
gets inflamed. Now that the it's healing down there, the
(10:32):
inflammation is still there. So you take a little time off. Okay,
now why are you coming back? He went out and
hit batty prede, Well, what's wrong, Well, it's inflamed, but
you shut him down because the pain or is it inflammation?
Is it just because it looks bigger? You got to
cankle down as you know when you got to do
big ankles, like, well is it blown out? Well, it's
it's bothering him, but the ankle's healed, but it's still inflammation.
Give him a shot before the game, go play to that.
(10:53):
That's why I.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Think it was two months ago Dana said that They're like, yeah,
I mean he's doing fine.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Like he was.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
He was there hitting, he was in the cages today,
he was hidden and he looked great. But then it
was the next day he came in and said, oh,
I'm having pain. So then okay, so we gotta saw
it down a little bit. But it was like, it's like,
have we made any progress since that?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And other than the fracture is probably healed by down.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Like no doubt. And you know what sometimes happens to
how you get inflammation is when you're playing when you're
still hurt is mechanics change. Think about a quarterback throwing
in a certain case that when he gets into his
normal armslot, it bothers him. So what's if you're playing
through it, what's the natural reaction? Like, think about when
you're sleeping on one side and you're like, man, my
left siatical you roll over. It's like, oh, this feels great.
(11:35):
I can see you stay there. But the sciatic was
sore because well, it's like when you have knee injury.
You know what hurts next because you're favoring it your
left hip. Oh well my left hip. Why well I'm
favored Okay, of course the inflammation's coming from that. There's
no structurally wrong inflammation. Will how's this threshold of pain?
I don't know. Man, give me a pill, let me
go play. You know, you know, archaic thinking, but I
(11:56):
get it. But yeah, it's just it's it's a numbering.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Tread to he wasn't ain't good and so like that's
the other part of this too, is let's say we
get him back somewhere mid late August. What if he's
not a good like? So that's why I say, like mentally, was,
I'm moving on from you and you gotta I gotta
build this team.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
We gotta win names.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
And Gordy, you gotta convince your players. They all want
Jordan back, of course, but with the guys. Like I said,
I'm coaching and managing and playing the guys that are
here in uniform. Not that we don't want him back,
but you also have to convince your players they're good
enough to win without him. It can't be the crutch
of yeah man, because and they're playing like they can
(12:36):
win without him, so they're not. Obviously they're not thinking
about that. But you can't get locked into thinking, well,
without yord On, what are we gonna do. You have
to convince them, guys, they're so damn good that we
can win a World Series without him, whether it's true
or not, that's what you psychologically have to convince him.
You got to convince Tremmel that he can start in
left field and be a regular every day and kick ass,
and that you go.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
He goes, guys, we don't need you, got me.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
You're not gonna right now now out loud. He's gonna say, hell, yeah,
we need your done. At home, he's probably talking to
his wife or girlfriend. Have you. I say, you know what
I belong here, and that's I am.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Carnival's freaking humble. Guys, Get behind me.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Let's go I could argue that Cooper's having a better
season than you're done right now, I'm kidding, but you
get my point. You need him, but you've got to
convince yourself that you can win without him, and right now,
to me, you've got no choice because he's not in uniform.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well, you get five more games this week, you get
no Astros baseball next week until Friday. It's still a
great time for all of us to be drinking Crawford back.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I was talking about Budd who was at the game
last night, and he said, Uh, I think I know
why we lost.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I didn't have a Crawford Bak. So you went to
the game, you didn't have a Crawford Bok.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
What were you thinking.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
So if you go into the baseball game this week,
obviously a handful of home games left before the All
Star Break, get to dyke in Park, get your Crawford
bach and let's root on the Astros.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Let's get let's get this series.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
One tonight with Hunter Brown and when tomorrow when another
series feel pretty good.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
So goes perfectly with Astros baseball.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Whatever you have in there at the ballpark, of course,
dollar dog Night, whatever it is, get yourself a craw
from Carbock Brewing Berg right here in.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Houston, Texas.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I mean, I think that was the key to Friday's
game eighteen one, is that Crawford block was facing I was.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Over at Carbock on was that Thursday, and then won
that one, and there you go, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Good stuff, but appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Chris Gordy joins us every single Tuesday and Thursday here
courtesy of Carbach Brewing. A couple of things though, that
we just talked about right there will carry over to
the other side as we continue the Astros conversation on
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