Astros Suffer Series Loss To Orioles, Yordan's Rehab, Texans Preseason Week 2 Recap, Scottie Scheffler Wins BMW Championship

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc true, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Dan matthewscuse, this is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
There's a ditch curve ball poked to right and hit
well back on at Santez onto the warning track and
he leaves and he makes the catch.

Speaker 5 (00:31):
He robbed a homer. It's gonna be a sacrifice fly.

Speaker 6 (00:35):
Orioles take the lead, but it's a home run, robbing
grab by Santez in right field and there's two away
now the three one, and Westburg hits it out to
right center and deep, racing back Melton at the wall
and it's gone into the Astros bullpen.

Speaker 7 (00:54):
A three run homer for Jordan Westburgh and the Orioles
lead is five to nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Outfielders are deep one and he hits this one high
in the air right field.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
That could be out of here. No, it's rob by Sanchez.
He does it again, Sanchez over the wall.

Speaker 7 (01:19):
This one's lifted to left and deep back at the
out of town scoreboard. Tremmel makes the catch and chas
McCormick with a one two three in and first pitch
runner takes off at first Caratini bloops this one to
the shortstop Basquez, who backs up to make the catch,
and that is the ball game. Bultiple Orioles take two

(01:39):
out of three from the Astros as they shut out
the Astros today twelve to nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Owner goes this one beating into the ground.

Speaker 8 (01:46):
A Koya's got time, nailor he's out in the Mets
and one to two in a row. They win it
on Sunday night here with the Little League Classic seven
to three over Seattle.

Speaker 9 (01:57):
All right, that part was cool, But the first part
right there you just heard Sean. I was at a
pickle this morning when I woke up and I'm deciding
to come in, and I'm like, do we put together
a show open? Because that was just an abominable dross yesterday.
Like it got to a point there where it was
just like, okay, do I start doing some organizing and

(02:18):
you know other things that possibly.

Speaker 10 (02:20):
I was gonna say, I was watching golf anyway all
day yesterday and watch it. We'll get to I know Scheffler,
how just dominant. He is so neither here nor there.
I quit watching it. They and I'm gonna tell you this,
I don't mean disrespectful Sean Duban right now, cannot he.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Is getting his ass handed to him. Am I right
or wrong?

Speaker 11 (02:38):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (02:38):
You're not wrong one.

Speaker 10 (02:39):
I mean it's every time you go, it's like, it's
it's really odd to see. It's just but he is
having a rough, rough go of it. And you want
to talk about rock in a hard place. He doesn't
have any options left. Yeah, if he had options, that
guy would have been gone after yesterday's game. But the
fact that that's the case, you're gonna have to go

(03:00):
and bear it. Sorry, I mean it's a hard watch man.
Oh I quit it. I quit watching, and you know
it's there and then it's going, it's like what what what?

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Before you know?

Speaker 10 (03:12):
Yesterday it really was it was a it was a beatdown.
They're fortunate in the middle game of the series that
got a guy hustling and getting very fortunate.

Speaker 9 (03:23):
I mean, we could be talking about the second straight
time that one of the worst teams in baseball swept
you at home very easily and two of them shut outs. Yes,
it's not for somebody falling asleep on third base getting
doubled up on a line drive.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
Knows how the rest of the game goes.

Speaker 9 (03:40):
I mean it's just watching that game Saturday was the
weirdest day, like probably I've had in my entire life.
I mean, just that game itself. And I do the
tenth inning show and love our callers, love our audience,
love all of you, well most of you more than others.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
We don't have to agree with them.

Speaker 9 (04:01):
And I mean just it was almost like either did
you watch the game or have you even watched this
baseball team all season long?

Speaker 5 (04:10):
But like that right there.

Speaker 9 (04:12):
And I had a realization watching that game too, that
we'll get to as the show goes along. But even
with that win, you came out of that game on Saturday,
and I know, people, oh win's a win, is a
win and all of those things. You couldn't feel good
about that whatsoever. Pitching wise, yes you could. And Neil
de la Santos that was nice. Brian Kings inning, that
was Jason Alexander Listen. I was going to just as

(04:36):
much as the Duban thing. And you're like, this is
hard to watch right now. It's like you run him
out there and it's just it's you're not getting out
of an inning. It feels like right, I mean, you
don't have to errors taken along three straight times that
I mean, this thing has absolutely got helium in it
and floated away the.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Exactly to the point where you're like, this isn't And
I know he is.

Speaker 10 (04:56):
He's good. I'm not beating him down, but it hadn't
looked like he's a major league pitcher. Does that make sense? Yeah?
Back to what you were saying about, what'd you just say,
we guy caught up and do? What was your lead
to me before this?

Speaker 9 (05:07):
Oh, even Saturday's game, Like you came out of it
and you're like, yeah, cool, it's a win, but I mean,
good to god, you're the grinded out against that.

Speaker 10 (05:14):
Yeah, it's it's the mental struggle to get through it.
There's there's absolutely no question about it. It was Oh
Jason Alexander.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
That's it.

Speaker 10 (05:23):
Listen, he just as much as Duban on one side.
Stro the guy again gives you six innings. He's been
really good man. I understand he wasn't perfect, but come on,
I think that's three straight starts or four straight starts.
He's got his sixth or seventh inc right AND's and
it's given you position to put you in position where
you've had a chance to win and hang around. So

(05:45):
he's been really, really good. I'm gonna tell you right now,
I can't take him out of the rotation. I cannot Hobvier.
You know, still working through it. But that was yeah, okay, you.

Speaker 9 (05:55):
Know you get my point, right, Hey, if he was
able to cut through it yesterday, no pun intend probably
a bad one. You know, I don't know what his
illness is. But if he's able to do that, are
we calling it the Javi aer game?

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Probably?

Speaker 9 (06:09):
But I understand he would Phil, but you know, he's
just oh yeah, your offense has a score runs for
that time.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
But I digress. God, no doubt about it.

Speaker 10 (06:16):
So I'm I'm looking forward to seeing how he continues
to progress, and we know how good he can be.
Right But Jason Alexander's been magnificent. And Fromber still is
he got you deep? But is still not it had
a dominant performance. It still hasn't been the Fromber that
were used to Cy Young Fromber. It just doesn't look
the same glass.

Speaker 9 (06:36):
Handful of you were talking about pulling the shoot yesterday
when it happened, I probably on Friday night should have
pulled the shoot, grabbed a cigar, gone outside and just
enjoyed the rest of my night. After Fromber tried to
pull that hero ball play, like, what are you doing?

Speaker 11 (06:50):
Man?

Speaker 10 (06:51):
Well, do you know that he's had lapses in his
career about stuff like that? You know, and he just
has emotional or mental lapses? Am I right or wrong?
One hundred percent?

Speaker 5 (06:59):
You're right.

Speaker 10 (07:00):
The physicalities, I mean, the ability to get people. It's
there and you saw it on his face afterwards. It was, oh,
another one of those infield hits great. Oh he wears
it now, he wears it. And you know they talk about, oh,
never let him see a sweat. You can know when
you know when Frombers either had it or has been

(07:21):
through something that he didn't want that he didn't want
to happen. So uh, I listen, you'll take a win.
The other half of that that they're right, but you
will take a win anyway and get it with a man.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
Did you have to gut it out?

Speaker 10 (07:32):
And I apologized for my jinxing this team on Friday.
I told you the rookie. I told you that, Remember
I said he was all five. I said watch him.
He saw on the show. I said, watch what's going
to happen. He'll come out and pitch the best game
of his career and he'll get the seven innings and
he'll he'll get you know, I said, Oh, he's gonna

(07:52):
have one of those days where he's going to get
to seven innings and it'll be like because I said, statistically,
at some point in time, the odds are going to
change in his favor where he's gonna pitch well at
some point, watch it.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Be against us. Excuseually the way it goes pretty good.

Speaker 10 (08:06):
Dude, he's a he's a former teammate, single away from No.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
No in you're ass with a perfect game.

Speaker 9 (08:14):
And even going back and watching that, and I even
brought it up to uh Ross. We went to lunches day.
We were just talking and showed him in the replay.
If he lets that go through and his third baseman
grabs that, I think he gets him out.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
I think you're probably right. I think you're probably right.
And who made the hustle play to salvage the game
on Saturday? Same cat.

Speaker 10 (08:35):
Yeah, I mean when you're talking about, you know, beating it,
when I say hustle, you give allowed you what was
it a fielder's choice? I think it was. It scored
the run. It was, yeah, so, but just say the
former teammate, I mean.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Which which on that too?

Speaker 9 (08:46):
Going back, I mean where Saturday and I made the
joke on the tenth Inning Show there was a member
of the National Baseball Hall of Fame there with Billy Wagner.
That game was not being sent to Cooper's town. It
just all over the place, ugly, right that if you're
that third baseman and I'm sure probably you know they
show him on an iPad go home with that ball.
The pitcher spot would have been up next with two

(09:08):
outs in the bases loaded.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Yeah, I mean, I mean.

Speaker 9 (09:13):
It just goes to show you just how much you're
having to grind this thing out right now. And we'll
get into just the overall makeup of this team at
the moment. But getting back to Brandon Young, but I
think he was.

Speaker 10 (09:25):
He threw eight innings, they got to they closed it out,
but eight innings of one hit ball and he was
on his had they not got the hit, he's not
coming out right, They're gonna let him get the They're
gonna let him try. He was, he was, but he
was so good and he's a rookie and had won.
And I apologize. I got a message from somebody that's
just like you said, John, I hope you don't jink him,
and I'll be damned.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
The big guy pitched his ass off, bigger.

Speaker 9 (09:47):
Star his performance or Missus Young, Miss Missus Young was
firing up the internet.

Speaker 10 (09:55):
Oh I didn't see. I didn't pay attention, did I stay?
I made a commit this week. I was not on it.

Speaker 9 (09:59):
Veris leaf that she was like missus Missus Lumberton at
one point miss Missus Young and and you know, I'm
not going to say what broadcaster it was, but you
know the Young family was shown and I joked and
I said, good thing.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
He didn't pull a Mussburger.

Speaker 10 (10:18):
Oh yeah, well she that is she strong? Oh really
ninety eight on the Black Brother Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
I did not see her. Well she got to see
a good performance. She did?

Speaker 10 (10:28):
Are they she's the debt's his wife? You said no,
miss mom mom? Oh that's right, because he's a rookie.
If I'm not mistaken, right, Yeah, Oh I didn't.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
I didn't see it.

Speaker 10 (10:38):
So he was that that one he would thought about
Golden Brothers. He comes from good stock.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
There you go, Well, well, DNA is a good thing.
So it is it is?

Speaker 10 (10:48):
They asked Sidney, sweetie, She'll tell you that apparently as
well everybody else in the country. So yeah, man, I
I uh he was you even said it? Oh well
you Sean. You said that about Jay and what's he doing?
Not a bit about uh Brandon Young Young and he
was lights out, man, and you're watching going along and

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I'm thinking, you know how sometimes you forget you cut it.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
He's perfect right now.

Speaker 9 (11:14):
It's probably probably about the fifth in the age is
when I was like, they haven't gotten anybody on base, right.

Speaker 10 (11:19):
Which You're like, well, and then all of a sudden
did You're rolling the sixth and You're like, damn, still,
what's going on here?

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Right?

Speaker 9 (11:25):
And speaking of those cigars, I went in the seventh
inning because I finally was like, you know what, switch
it up a little bit, get it, get out of
the house for a second, right.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
And you know, I went to change hats, do something. Yeah,
I went.

Speaker 9 (11:36):
I went and grabbed a couple of sticks from where
I was and I get back in the car and
I hear Robert Ford We're through seven and whatever the
score was at the.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
Time, and I'm like, oh my god, he still got it?

Speaker 10 (11:45):
Is it appropriate for the I know the answer, but
I'm just wondering what you think kind of a tooral
question appropriate for the team that's getting no hit to
talk all of the guy's got a no hitter to you,
I mean, that's you. You do you want to show
that out in the space regularly as opposed to the
other side. The Baltimore announces, I'm sure we're not mentioning

(12:06):
it that he was perfect through you know, a certain
amount of innings and they're not talking about But if
you're on that side, do you mention it all the
time hoping that the jinx is real true?

Speaker 12 (12:13):
Ye?

Speaker 5 (12:14):
Sure you do that, I mean, you know.

Speaker 9 (12:15):
At the same time, though, I mean, Robert Ford has
addressed this, I know that people always jump on tags
for doing you know, hey, it's you know, through six
and they've got a no hitter, and then of course
the next inning, of course, somebody gives up a hit
and then it's dmu tags. It's like, it's not like
the guys going back into the dugout checking his phone
and saying, oh damn it, man, Brian mctagger just said
this about me.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
I'm really screwed now. See, I'm with with that too.
I don't follow into that job is to describe the game,
especially broadcast, the.

Speaker 10 (12:45):
Fact that you j no, he didn't, you didn't, Just
like when the guy's talking broadcast he had missed a
free throw and twenty five free throws and he missed
the next one.

Speaker 9 (12:51):
They have no goal kickers, nothing, Well, he's made twenty
three of his last yet you know.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Missed, which is it right?

Speaker 11 (12:58):
Right?

Speaker 5 (12:59):
Damn you?

Speaker 10 (13:00):
Nothing has nothing to do with it, but the fans
somehow think it does. Sure, and my talking about how
I'll watch young go out throw Jim against the Astros
had zero to do with it. But I was thinking, Sean,
just the next time when a guy's hadn't won a
game and he's a rookie, make it the next start
when you get out of here, because he was sensational.
So yeah, man, it was a weird weekend when it

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comes to Astros baseball.

Speaker 9 (13:22):
That's why this team makes zero sense because all three
games you're facing really good pitching. I think flarity goes
in one of these games. I want to say, I
think flarity starts tonight. I think I'm trying, I'm trying
to remember I saw but tomorrow night. I mean you
want to talk about appointment viewing or an ar case
appointment listening?

Speaker 13 (13:42):
What is it?

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Is it Schoobale and Brown ping go pretty good?

Speaker 9 (13:47):
That's gonna be pretty great, is what It's going to be?
Arraghetti and Flarity tonight, and then you get that game
tomorrow night, and then Wednesday's finale is going to be
afternoon Chuck Morton against Fromber. So let's let's just ask
Fromber to cut down on the acrobatics on the mound
of Hey, you're not Charlie Kerfeld. You can't field it

(14:09):
behind your back. Let Ramona Reus get that ball. Do
you know who's the guy he's opposing. Is a good
example to watch how to handle Just stay relaxed because
Charlie's got ice in his veins, right, He's got.

Speaker 10 (14:21):
Ice in his veins, and he's incredibly thought out. Yeah, exactly,
big time. So this is a you want to talk
about another three game of matters, and they're fortunate they're
getting a little help. If they asked if the Mariners
were kicking ass right now, they'd be in the chase mode.
They still look. The gate's still in the game and
a half. I'm not mistaken because both is yeah, because

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both lost yesterday there.

Speaker 9 (14:43):
Yeah, so yeah, the Mets win last night seven to three,
so Jesus mentioned the Astros still up a game and
a half on them, So you got that going for you.
But same time, boy, you know, it almost makes you
feel the way they're playing right now, if you're just
delaying the inevitable, because.

Speaker 5 (14:59):
This just does not look like a team that gives
me reason to believe that this is a deep run.

Speaker 10 (15:03):
They can't think that way though, they can't keep You're right,
and yet they're still in first place. And you know,
we talked about the Calvary and I guess Jordan's get
his minor league assignment, right, so we say close, that's closer.
It's closer, so it's at least tangible at this point, right,
So it's a little bit closer. So that gives you
a cause for Okay, things are getting better. But yeah,

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I understand from the from the point of we're doing it.
Oh man, they're not playing great baseball. How do they
make a deep run? And they're they're one second, you're like, okay,
they're they're they're close to doing that, and then you're like,
I mean, the discrepancy between good and bad. They've had
some clunkers that have been awful, and then when they're
going good, you're like, man, they can do it.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
The question is where do you feel? Where do you sit?

Speaker 10 (15:48):
More on on a more consistent side, their inability to
score runs of times when they're not going good is
a bit alarming.

Speaker 9 (15:54):
Well, I'll tell you what, sometimes your segues are just
perfectly timed. Thank you, because that's that's where where you're going. Yeah,
because there was a realization made this weekend, and I'll
share that with you all. Also, Roger Seu right there.
You want to join him seven one three, two and
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Rope strutching completely shutting down the Southwest streetway back last low?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
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Speaker 5 (16:37):
Let's hope Jake's bats like it was before he left.

Speaker 9 (16:40):
Well, I mean it's anything like Sean Dubin. I don't
mean to like be you know, open to a possible jinx.
But I mean we were saying the same thing about
Duben when he went on the IL with the hit
with the forearm strain. And look, they're not they're not
tied in. But I mean, Myers's been off now after it,
let's just say a couple of weeks next week, midweek

(17:03):
he's back. Just let's let's just throw it out. It's
been longer than a couple of weeks, right, it's been
about a month and a half, almost two months since
he's played, because it was right before the All Star breaks,
so mid July.

Speaker 10 (17:16):
So if you come back then a month and a half, Yeah,
it's a long time away. I hope he's as in
tuned as he was when he's the first half of
the season.

Speaker 9 (17:28):
And if I'm not mistaken to your not's gonna d
h tomorrow night and then he's off on Wednesday?

Speaker 5 (17:33):
Why bingo?

Speaker 10 (17:36):
Why The answer is going to be because we don't
want to back to We just want to we want
to work it slowly.

Speaker 9 (17:42):
Then don't say that it's a possibility he can be
back at the end of the week, because then he's
not ready, right, right.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
Does he gotta play every day when he comes up here,
I would assume, right.

Speaker 13 (17:52):
So how do you get it.

Speaker 9 (17:53):
That's the only reason you would activate him, I would think,
because you're bringing him back because you need him.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Okay, well, then if you need him, then play them.
Can you run a marathon if you've only trained for
one hundred meters sprint? Not well?

Speaker 10 (18:04):
I mean unless your your DNA says you get one
of those that kind of but your best. So my
thing is, at some point, is it going to be
like that when he gets up here?

Speaker 5 (18:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (18:11):
The answer I'm asking is, Okay, he's up here, we
don't want to risk it. We're gonna he'll d h today.
He's gonna take Wednesday off, then we travel there.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
I'm just you.

Speaker 10 (18:21):
Then we we'll play on Friday, but we're not gonna
playhim Saturday. We'll play him Sunday. I mean, is this
every other day thing where you're platooning it just just
so you give be a hard sell to the fan base.
It is to me.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Here's the way I look at it.

Speaker 10 (18:34):
If you elevate him to to the point he goes
through Corpus Christy and I'm sure on his maybe he
won't even swing in sugar Land.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (18:41):
He may jump from there there if it looks good.
But if it does and they're gonna keep him a
handful of games, that one or the other of both.
When he gets up here and you say, okay, he's
ready to come to the major league team, now I'm
just looking at the logic of this for me as
a fan. If he's here and that you're tell me
he's one hundred percent ready to go, then why do

(19:02):
I only got to play him. I'm not saying that's
what they're gonna do, but I'm almost at the point
if he's taken now minor league swings, isn't it one
of those that aren't you we talk about build up
and lengthening a picture, don't you got a test If
he can do it back to back, or I wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
Have him up here doing it, You're gonna have to
do it soon enough.

Speaker 10 (19:22):
If he gets to the major league team where we
are in the season, you're telling me he's fit, healthy,
pain free, and ready to go, or when I say
pain free, at least can handle there the thresholds there
that he can handle going. So if he's here, my
build up's over, buddy. If he's here, let's just say

(19:43):
he was here this Friday, then he's playing Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
And if there's no setback, if he plays Friday and
he doesn't come to me and say, man, I'm hurting.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
If he does that, then he he wasn't ready in
the first and he was never going to be. That's right.

Speaker 10 (20:03):
And if he doesn't say anything to you, don't you
have to just Saturday and say you just got to
play him.

Speaker 9 (20:08):
Or you just keep putting him in the lineup card
until he says, hey, scam, I'm hurting. Lill something here right,
And then you say to yourself, well, it's see the reinjured.
He was already correct.

Speaker 10 (20:17):
So I mean, unlike a pitcher where he's been out
a year and a half and comes back and can't
throw one hundred and ten pitches.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Is first, I get it.

Speaker 10 (20:27):
You're talking about four bats, my man, no offense, And
I know people are gonna they get mad this a
d H at four bats is not that taxing, sorry
to tell you.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
It's just now.

Speaker 10 (20:36):
I know it's the hand in the wrist in that area.
But if you're worried about it, then the build up
isn't where it's supposed to be.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Correct. Do you get my points?

Speaker 10 (20:45):
You would assume yes, or in this case presume right.
I'm not getting I'm the build up ain't happening here.
It should have happen when he gets here. It's all
all force. I mean, all all engines go right, twelve cylinders.
Let's let it rip, Chris, And this is a lineup,
didn't it too? So maybe that's what they're thinking. But
from your the standpoint of we got him here, don't

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you got to see if he can go back to.

Speaker 9 (21:08):
Back well in corpus Christy to the point I just
brought up, okay, LinkedIn, if your lineup really needs him,
then he needs to play.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
He needs to be in there because you're bringing him
back to LinkedIn this lineup.

Speaker 10 (21:18):
Because you have a ten game lead. Until you see
what un tell he says, you got to play me
every day. I know there's no issue.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
I get it.

Speaker 9 (21:24):
Hey, Walker, you're batting fifth today. Oh Jordon's back. Yeah,
Hey you're batt and fourth today. Oh he's not back, right.

Speaker 10 (21:30):
I just to me and I don't know how they're
going to go about it, but I'm just looking at
the logic to me, once you get here, then all that,
all all your build up and getting lengthening it out
and making sure you're good to go, should be ready.
How do I know he can go back to back
here if he can't go back to back in sugar,
I mean in corpus Christie. It's a fair point because
I mean I said, I don't know that protocol. But

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for me, when a guy gets here, an everyday player,
you've been pronounced fit, ready to go, and had your
minor league and you looked good, let's go, I mean
you would hope that you're ready to go at this
point because if you're not ready to go at this point,
then then he shouldn't be here. That's just the way
I look at it. If you're here, listen, we're in
the thirties now. Of games to play, mid thirties or whatever,

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mid to upper thirties, thirty six, thirty seven, get whatever
it is.

Speaker 9 (22:20):
And you heard what Dana said, twenty to twenty five
games left, it's full sevent to go.

Speaker 10 (22:24):
Okay, Well for him, his twenty five games is thirty
games here. I mean he's you have got to have him,
and you've got to be able. I don't want to
wake up, and it's the playoffs and wondering can he
play every day?

Speaker 9 (22:37):
That's just me saw we saw what the answer was
last year when he got the one extra base hit,
which by the way, too, I mean, that's something else
with this team, and that was the realization Sean's is
not a good lineup, and I've been getting mad at
them for the wrong reasons. They don't slug, they don't
judge the strike zone well, they don't put together good

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at bats in terms of they're aggressive when they're supposed
to be passive, and they're passive when they're supposed to
be aggressive, and you've got just inconsistencies across the board.
Jose al Twove is not the hitter that he was,
and maybe he can recapture that for enough of a
time to be able to put you over the top.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
But he's still hitting two eighty. But there's you're talking
about the timing.

Speaker 9 (23:20):
Who in this lineup without you and on him without
the socprettis do you look at and say, I gotta
watch out for that guy.

Speaker 10 (23:26):
Yer can run in the one, Christian Walker can run
into one. Al Tuove and Corea both can run into
him as well. And I mean I put it this way,
I'm not going to pitch him casually.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
That's that's what. But I know what you're saying. You
don't pitch them at all?

Speaker 9 (23:39):
Is the point, because of some of the other guys
that are in this lineup, right, You pitch around there.

Speaker 10 (23:44):
But I'm not getting beat by Karrey or al Tuova.
I'm letting somebody else beat me. If they do, then
they got me that day, is what you're saying. The
Irons at the plate, well, well, Jeff your Pane, you'll
put some fear in you because of the way he's
played all year. I'm not talking about home run fear,
but he's gonna compete and get a bats.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
He's been.

Speaker 10 (23:58):
He's their MVP, right, yes he is. Okay, So I
get what you're saying. When you now we just mentioned it,
you say, well, Paya and Korea now too. But it's
not so much that going in the reputation. It's the
production the entire lineup and the timing of the hits
that you can't they have too many times where they're
scoring two to one and no runs.

Speaker 9 (24:17):
If this lineup is having you say, damn, we are
really short without Painy and Jake Myers, you don't.

Speaker 13 (24:24):
Have a good r ight.

Speaker 10 (24:25):
Oh listen, The biggest weakness on this team, without question,
aside from injuries that you can't control, is there at
the plate.

Speaker 9 (24:33):
They are a very average team that that actually are
a very average. See of all of the things, Sean,
you probably just hit it on the head the most.
Right there, they're average, Yes there, they're nothing more of
average townent.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
They're playing average, nothing less. Right, they're average.

Speaker 9 (24:50):
They got a handful of good hitters in it, and
aside from that, a bunch of guys who things have to.

Speaker 10 (24:56):
Go really well for them to be dominant, have to
go pretty damn well for them to be good. The
truth is the incomes when I when we say they're
not their average, it's not that the talent's average is
whatever reason. It's like I'll use another golf for a
Xander Shaffle two time major winners are right. This is
the first time he's not going to Atlanta to play
at East Lake. He didn't finish in the top thirty.

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He's had it, he came off an injury, has had
an average year for him. Then now does that mean
he's got talented not great. Hell no, I want him
on my Ryder Cup team, and he's earned it and
all that, but he isn't. This team's got really good
players and names and but they're an average hitting baseball team.
When you comply, I don't know what the metric, Well,
they're up here in average. Well everybody's told me average
doesn't matter anymore, but we can so don't lean on

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the metric if you don't think, I.

Speaker 9 (25:40):
Can't say you can't use it when it's convenient, right,
you know, it's like Pro Football Focus. Oh, his Pro
Football Focus grade was, Oh, really, well, how are they
grading it?

Speaker 11 (25:49):
Well?

Speaker 5 (25:49):
Were they grading right? Then you can't answer that question.
There you go.

Speaker 10 (25:52):
So at least baseball, you can't tell, well, Sean, they're
hitting two seventy as a team. I'm just used that
as example. And then come back and tell me, well,
you know average doesn't matter. Okay, you can't use it
to your convenience. The bottom line is they did right Now,
you do not fear one bit. You believe your fourth
pitcher can get through an Astros lineup and beat you.
And it was proven almost to the perfection.

Speaker 13 (26:11):
Part.

Speaker 9 (26:12):
I was gonna say, even worse than the fourth pitcher,
a guy with an oh to six record in the
six seventy e er. When it comes to not like
Dean Kramer's been gamebusters this year either, it's you know
how you say, oh, that guy's just a guy in
a lineup right now?

Speaker 5 (26:24):
The way they hit their in first place is a team.
The pitching. I talk about it at the plate. They're
just a guy.

Speaker 10 (26:30):
They're a team full of guys. Yeah, right right now.
Their performance says they're just a guy. You don't go
in and thinking, oh my gosh, this is relentless Astros line.
Now it may get back to that point, but I
can just tell you right now, if they don't pitch
really really good, you can beat the Astros on a
regular basis.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Relentless. Man, there's that word again. I remember that from
last year.

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Speaker 5 (29:05):
Roger, go ahead, Hey, good.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Morning, Shawn and Dan. Hey, uh yeah, it's all a
little bit of dupid glue. But hey, it's like, uh,
it's like no bursting told Tony Montana, every day above,
every day above above the ground is a good day.
So every day in the in the lead with the
aost is a good day. So you know we're still
in the lead. Yeah, it's like the team use these

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too much with these guys, you know, they they they
seem to contribute, they all seem to contribute with the
wins man, but they really do contribute with the losses man.
It's like it's like a big void.

Speaker 10 (29:41):
Man.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
It's just like they, oh't know, it's just a doctor
head doctor Jacko, mister Hyde. Just a really odd team
right now. And yeah, we're all mentioning that power punch.
We we missed parades a lot. You can see how
much we miss him. Uh and uh, you know, just
with the yord On thing, I'll believe it when I
see it. That's how I am with that whole situation.

(30:03):
I believe it when I see it. And how many
times I said, effing Sean on Friday, when you describe
that I want to have a pitching.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
I was Sean, oh yeah, and I was cussing.

Speaker 10 (30:17):
I was cussing myself, my man, saying, Okay, I was
kind of joking, but this dude comes out and pitches
like these. Roger Clemens, a rookie, had one, but the
statistics said, but you know, then, Roger, I didn't have
him going perfect.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
On your ass for you know what I'm saying, for eighties.

Speaker 10 (30:31):
Like other than the one in I'm like, Okay, he's
gonna you know, at least give him a chance.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
He didn't. More than give him a chance. He was
lights out. But yeah, I imagine you cussed me because
I did too.

Speaker 11 (30:40):
Man.

Speaker 10 (30:40):
I'm sitting there watching golf cussing myself over the Astros
as well. Dude, because of Sean. Why did you tell
him that this kid was gonna go there and be
really good?

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Right goodness, but all good, all good looks like I said,
It's like it's like that when that crooked cough kill him.
Told me my time hate. Every day above ground is
a good day. So I'm gonna go ahead and just
turn to pay to leave it at that for now.

Speaker 11 (31:01):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
CJ. Stroud, Uh, I know he's got a couple of
guys in this group that that that they can, they can,
you know, show him how to read a room better
than that. I hope you don't read defenses like you
read the room.

Speaker 13 (31:15):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
That's Seattle cap. Not cool man, not cooling any stretch.
I don't care how many caps you have. I got
plenty of caps too. I ain't gonna wor Seattle cap
in a middle of a presser playing for the Houston Texas.
It's not gonna do it. Just come on, man, get
get get with it. And you know, just you know,
I just I decided that that was a weird hiccup
on his part, like, you know, come on, man, it's

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just you're you're in Houston, man, that you can't wear
that hat. And that's all I got, John, That good guys.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
Roger appreciate it, buddy. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (31:45):
And we'll get into the CJ. Stroud Mariner's hat a
little bit later because his his reason for wearing it, well,
it's all about swag. And King Griffy Jr. You know
those days. I mean the Mariner is back when I
was growing up in the midle late nineties. They were
all their age, man him Buner.

Speaker 10 (32:05):
That whole group that you're like, oh man, this group's
so cool, led by the kid Glar Bartenez to Edgargar.

Speaker 9 (32:11):
Yeah, I mean you know the unit, Randy. I mean
you had that whole group, Lou Penela. You know, they
were the bad guys in the movie A little Big League.
But guess what I'm not. I don't usually make a
big deal of that. Uh, the Rogers, right about just
knowing that if you'd have had a I don't know,

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you could eat hell, if you'd wear a Colorado Rockies hat,
maybe we'd probably said nobody would care, right, But there's
probably there's three hats who can't wear, and that's one
of them. Yeah, they got four. Four there's four hats
who can't wear, and that's one of them. The Rangers
for Mariners, for sure. Dodgers, even though he has a Dodgy,
he is a Dodgers. I hate to tell people that.
And the Yankees hat, that's it. It's not that they can.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Wear a Red Sox hat. People would be like, why.

Speaker 10 (32:58):
Right, but that like you like logo yet, especially the
timing and guess what, swag takes a back seat till
the neck to.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
Walking around maybe at your house or something.

Speaker 10 (33:08):
Now you know you want to go play golf in
it and sweat it out, so you sweat it out,
so it leaves a sweat stage that you go for it.
But yeah, uh you probably great, great kid, but probably
didn't think twice about it.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
But missmit reading the room. Roger's right about that.

Speaker 9 (33:22):
I have less of a problem with this than I
do with direct pandering. Well, I'll give you a good example.
When I worked in Atlanta. Dan Quinn was not very
popular after twenty eight to three and the Braves were
going through a playoff run. In one of his press conferences,
he wore a Braves hat and people were like, take
that off. You're a jinx. Nobody wants you wearing that hat. Stop,

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just wear your Falcon's hat.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Bingo.

Speaker 13 (33:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (33:45):
Yeah, So that's just part of kind of the presence.
And when you're think, well, it's not I didn't think
it like that. That's not the point. The point is
you're trying to think it like, Okay, what's this going
toa not that you have to pander and kiss ass
to everybody. You shouldn't care, but right, But the others is,
it's just that's a hat that probably doesn't come especially
during baseball season. Just that, considering probably doesn't come off,

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isn't that big a deal. No, but it is a little.
I can understand my fancy wearing that hat. He's got
his team's right here at Dyke And Park and they're
in a battle for their baseball twenty twenty five lives.
When it comes to just baseball, I'm talking.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Now he knows, and now he will wear it again
in the building or out in public.

Speaker 10 (34:23):
Right, that's the thing. Maybe out in public you don't
have to be rate him for it and move on.
But I get what riders saying. We didn't pound him
into the ground. He just said, yeah, read the room, man,
it's simple, and then you move on. And I would
have guessed that you're not going to see him at
Texas Rangers hat anytime soon, no, let alone a Seattle hat.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (34:41):
I was gonna say, and look, this is an opportunity.
If you're the Astros, you overload them like those jerseys
that they were sending out to influencers.

Speaker 10 (34:50):
CJ gets his own and in truth, no doubt, would
you do this? Let me ask you this, would you
in high school have ever worn a give me your
big rival. It's still it's a strict jeg. Yeah, it's
just it's straight jesuit right that you would have never worked.
We had one of their hats on even on a
Tuesday night, on a game day right.

Speaker 9 (35:07):
Same time, though, I mean, I know that I've cracked
on Saint Pias before and I always like their gear
a lot. Oh yeah, you may love the kind of
the Pittsburgh Pirates with the orange pe, but you're still
wearing their hat during the week.

Speaker 10 (35:17):
I'm stating you're thinking, but I ever wear like a
rival or my like, even if I wasn't playing a
sport like my right. Matter of fact, I've never even
I wouldn't even think about even to this day with a.

Speaker 11 (35:28):
No.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
Yeah, the answer is no, right, yeah, well I just did. Yeah. Yeah,
there you go and keep saying it so not that
big a deal. You move on from it. There's that
bigger fish to fry. But it's just like.

Speaker 9 (35:38):
We're still in to wise, we're still in talking season,
and that's and that's what the NFL in football allows
for is because you don't have another game too quickly
get ready for, so we've got to find something to banter.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
But right, yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 9 (35:50):
So maybe maybe if, maybe next time, if you have
a Sunday going into a Thursday, you could do it,
because then it's not really going to be talked about
because you don't have enough time to really be able
to do it.

Speaker 10 (36:01):
And stay out of Just stay out of the rivals,
Just stay out of them. Just just keep those keep that.
Buy all the hats you want, because I got a
bunch of different baseball hats too. No one thing I've
ever had. I don't have a Yankee hat, and I
never will. I just don't, but I will. You know,
you keep them up there and wearing what nobody's it's
not that but you want to wear in the off
season with your buddies paying.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
Nobody cares.

Speaker 10 (36:18):
Uh, But it's just the timing of it probably looked.
And plus when somebody catches on camera, it's a boshes people. So,
especially where things sit at the moment, yeap quite tight.
I'm still worry more about him making great throws in
a regular season.

Speaker 9 (36:31):
I am not the Hattie War now I think, and
not getting crushed on the field, because clearly that lingered.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
All right, we'll continue the Astros conversation.

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Speaker 9 (38:39):
Know mentioned about fromber on Friday and you know, like
you have moments in a relationship or whatever it is
that you're like, this is it, this is done? Like
I can't see it the other way. Now, that play
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(38:59):
of with his high jinks. I really am. I'm done
with the infield number throws him off. I'm done with
a pitch that clip the zone but was called a ball,
is not a strike and it throws off his inning.
I'm done with it. I'm completely out the window on him.
I don't care how he finishes the rest of the way.
I don't care if he's lights out in the postseason,

(39:21):
which I mean from what we saw the last two years,
do you really think that that's gonna happen.

Speaker 10 (39:26):
I like the word number too, a little number out
in front of home. I like that good old school reference.
Thank you, thank you for the Yeah, that's that would
be maybe a Kurt GOUDI reference. Usually it's old school,
maybe you're Earnie Harwell. It's usually one that goes up
the third base line. In this case, it was a
hard hit ball, but or harder hit ball, it wasn't
necessarily that hard hit. I would think that either Penia

(39:47):
or Eureus would have gotten to the ball. Probably Aureus.

Speaker 9 (39:50):
But like, so that happens, and then you see it
on his face that he's just completely oh see this
is how it goes, this is how it happens. Well
was me he turns into e or on it, and
then you saw the inning go the way that it did,
and he lost the games.

Speaker 5 (40:06):
It's real simple.

Speaker 10 (40:07):
Fromber's Fromber's biggest problem in his pitching career is him
his inability to either hide it get over it. Now
at times when he's dealt with it, he's done. Remember
when he first started. I was like, gosh, dang, a
one bad inning, he was done. That would have been
a four or five running. There's no doubt that he's
gotten better at it. The problem is that still when
they say never let him see a sweat, you see

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he's it.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
It is blatant when you see him.

Speaker 10 (40:33):
You know when things I can tell when Frober's not
having when he's having an emotional or a you know,
one of those where the mental parts get in the way.
That doesn't mean baseball IQ. I'm talking about just to
deal with stuff. Stuff, because stuff happens in every game.
If Frober doesn't get paid the money he wants, that
will be the reason, not stuff or as far as pitching.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
When I say stuff, there's two stuffs.

Speaker 10 (40:54):
There's the stuff you got because you're so good pitcher,
and then there's the stuff that are every day, the
minutia that drives people crazy. But the minutia can bog
a picture down. He lets minushia getting the way of
a clear mind. His mind gets cluttered when things don't
go the way he wants, and it almost becomes and
I confess that somebody else did its problem, and or
if he did it, it's just a And I'm not
saying that guy's not a hell of it. He's phenomenal,

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premium left hander. There's a place, but the question is
that the trust level of him, not of he'll grind
and he'll log innings, but is he his mental gets
in the way of the physical. It just does well,
there's a he can get sideways, and he's not great
at showing that. He's not great at hiding it.

Speaker 9 (41:36):
Well, there's a reason why we talk about him in
the way that we do in terms of, oh man,
I hope we get this guy, and we'll discuss that
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Speaker 9 (42:33):
So the Astro is still a game and a half
up in the West and Scotti Scheffler winning up the
BMW Championship fifteen under two strokes better than Robert McIntyre
seOne three two one two five seven ninety is we're
talking from er Valdez here and you know, the the
lack of trust in him because lost his last four

(42:54):
games that he's pitched. The other night, I mean, I
understand you weren't helped whatsoever by your pitching staff, and
that does or your hitters, and that does add to
a little bit of the pressure. He gives up the
home run the Kobe Mayo, so maybe in his mind
he's thinking, well, all the way these guys aren't swinging it.
That might have been my shot right there, and that
could have kind of, you know, boiled into everything. And

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sometimes you're gonna lose a tough luck game. That happens.
That's baseball. How many times we've seen it happen with
Hunter Brown? How many see how many times did we
see it happen with Justin Verlander when he was here.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
In Pittsburgh. Shit, this sallient point.

Speaker 9 (43:29):
I mean, that's that's another one that's just been across
the board that you're just like, hey, maybe if you
scratch out a couple of runs, you can help your
guy out here.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
But it's just it's it's all of these things boiled in.

Speaker 9 (43:40):
And I talked about the last couple of years, the
postseason in twenty three, he was awful. He was average
at best. He was not good for you last year
that one game your hitters didn't hit and my god. Yet,
no disrespect to Jason Hayward, but if you've got a
lineup that has Jason Hayward in it, you're probably not
a good lineup. And we got exactly what we deserved

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against the Detroit Tiger is a team that was hotter
than you, a team that probably topped about him, was
a better team than you were, and they came in here.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
And they showed it. There's no doubt.

Speaker 9 (44:08):
So that's not necessarily on fromber. But you want to
be the ace, and you want to and and sure
as you're born, this is going to happen. He's going
to turn it on and he's going to have people
as we get closer to postseason, and if they somehow
make a run to the ALCS.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
Oh, pay the man, pay the man. Yep, hell no, no, no,
I'm not doing it. What's it going to do?

Speaker 9 (44:31):
You fooled me too many times to show how inconsistent
you are that I will not even entertain the idea
of giving you many years and a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
No, no, what is it?

Speaker 10 (44:41):
What is the what's the going rate going to be
for him? Yeah, honey, just yearly average starts at thirty
a year. Okay, so thirty a year. So thirty a
year for five is what he's going to be asking
something like that.

Speaker 9 (44:54):
That would probably be the baseline, and maybe maybe you
are able to get a team that's desperate enough to say, boy,
we really need some pitching.

Speaker 10 (45:01):
Let's give him seven or eight. I can't give him
one hundred and fifty million dollars for five years.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
I can't do it. I just can't.

Speaker 9 (45:11):
This team's going to have so many other needs, especially
on the offensive end, that I'm not even remotely entering.
And it's pretty telling how the team's going to handle this,
for the way that they have handled it to this point,
because they feel probably the same way that I do.

Speaker 10 (45:24):
Speaking into this microphone right now, Yeah, I listen. I
get when we see him, he teases it with greatness
because he's really good.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
He really is.

Speaker 10 (45:33):
But it's the other stuff that prevents him from being
great all the time. Do you take a precipitous drop
off without him right right now?

Speaker 1 (45:41):
You do?

Speaker 10 (45:42):
Oh, of course you do now, But then it'll put
a lot of onus on you in the off seas
that either hit a free agent market or somehow, some
way you're hoping that your guy.

Speaker 9 (45:51):
Hill is pitching for this team next year. Let let's
not get this twisted. He will be here next year. Okay, Well, then,
although he's not a lefty, he can he can give
you what Fromber can with a with a lineup that's
healthy here, he can. Yeah, I mean he's he's in
the he's in that group of those ten guys that
you talk about, or twelve guys, whatever it is.

Speaker 13 (46:09):
He just is.

Speaker 10 (46:10):
Now, you know, fromber is really good. We've had Smoltz
on here telling us just how good he thinks Fromber is.
The problem is, then Smolts admitted it too, the emotion
of handling that and if I got to if that's
got to be a question to pay somebody thirty million,
The question for me has been answered. It's too inconsistent
the emotional side for me to say, oh, what happens

(46:32):
when he gets to to when bad things are happening,
it's usually not great for him. If he didn't have that,
we wouldn't even be having this conversation. It could already
be under an extension. There you go, it'd be it
would have already been extended. H Yeah, it's it's I
don't And if he pitches, great, he's going to price
himself out here. And if he pitches the way he's pitching,

(46:54):
he's probably pricing himself out here. But if he wants
more than maybe when he's you know, all the statistics
and numbers, metrics you're going to go through to judge
him on whether you pay him.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
He's not there. They're not going to dive in and
pay that because of his volatility on the mount. I
mean I know that.

Speaker 9 (47:09):
I said, you know, we started at five years, and
then I said, maybe somebody gets desperate.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
That's a two or three year guy for me.

Speaker 10 (47:16):
Oh if he comes back and says, how about two
years for fifty five to sixty million, I'm in on that.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Want you to test the market, Yeah, I'm gonna have to.
I'm gonna have to this case.

Speaker 10 (47:30):
They put it this way, I'm not going to uh
have him hand him a pen the second he says it.
We'd have to negotiate that. But it's not gonna be
because he's not he doesn't have all the stuff you
need for a starting pitcher when it comes to the
physical side. I think the one thing that we've all questioned,
what's the first thing comes up? You say, man, what
do you do you trust from? And if you say yes,

(47:51):
you'll give me the reasons you do. But they'll all see.
But there's gonna be a butt in it. And if
you don't trust him, the number one thing you're gonna
say is not going to have anything to do with
this pitching skill set and his stuff. It's going to
be the other stuff. You're gonna say, eh, can he
handle a crapload of adversity on the mound? You say,
Kakuci was three years sixty three million, so twenty one

(48:11):
million per so you would probably think that fromber is
at least seven to eight million dollars more than he is.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
Yeah, but not for five or six years. Buddy, I
can't do it.

Speaker 10 (48:23):
But Lefty premium big time. When he's good. He's damn
near unhittable. But you don't want to say when he's good.
Like if I said, if I said right now, you
could say it like Scooball, those says you Lefty, not
comparing the two.

Speaker 9 (48:37):
But if I said, would you spooball and I misspoke
Scooball is a seven to eight years Oh, there's no doubt.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
That's why it is probably in the forties. Oh, in
his youth.

Speaker 10 (48:46):
I mean he's just that good. Yes, but I think
that sure, And but we're not questioning the rest of
the stuff. And that's probably and when your ace is
on the mound. The last thing I want to question, Okay,
do you question a Hunter Browns emotional toughness.

Speaker 9 (49:01):
No, As a matter of fact, you go the opposite
way with Hunter Brown because he climbed his way out
of it.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
Well in a way that he was.

Speaker 10 (49:10):
It felt like he was a start away from being
in the minor leagues away possibly being a we cannot
count on this guy we thought he was. He was
very he was dangerous close to being forced Whitley. Oh,
there's no doubt without and and it not being because
of an injury. Yes, they're just like now, just can't
do it. He's gone, what's words?

Speaker 5 (49:29):
He going from here? And then he turned it around
and is as tough as it gets.

Speaker 13 (49:32):
Now.

Speaker 10 (49:32):
You can't even imagine life without him, that's right, And
no adversity is going to affect him. And he's proven
that he's Yet I still wonder if it's in that
if it was a series to where you were facing
a picture that was as good as you physically and
it was a close game late what or you struggled early.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Could you get through it and keep it going? Maybe?

Speaker 10 (49:51):
But I still think it. I think he lets things
fester longer than you absolutely have to. And those of
us who've done it in your own careers in a
different way that he did, where you didn't get over
something as quick as you needed to, I know the
effect in a different way in a different sport, and
obviously held in it regard because he's an ace and
I wasn't an ace for my quarterback as a quarterback
in the NFL, But I know the feeling of when

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that you can't get over a play in three plays later,
it's like, dude, you just caused another play to go
back because you can't get over it. That's him And
finally you start to realize, my career, you don't do that,
but it takes him getting through that's the only thing holding.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
Him back, and it's it's it's a big thing.

Speaker 9 (50:30):
Well, I mean, and here's where I know there's a
lot of baseball left to be played and you've got
to get to this point. But Hunter Brown's my game
one starter. Well, but then here's the problem. You lose
that game and you got fromber and a winner take all,
batten down the house.

Speaker 10 (50:47):
You talk in a three game a short series. Yeah,
oh yeah, dangerous, there's no doubt. But you know what,
you know who they're probably gonna roll out there?

Speaker 5 (50:55):
Do you think? Yeah? I wouldn't.

Speaker 10 (50:58):
I've we've said all one. You could tell me if
I've said it. We said on the show. If you're
in a Game seven of the World Series and you
have to win it and everybody's rested, I'm talking about resting,
ready to go. Who are you pitching? I'm starting Hunter Brown? Yeah,
set it then, set it three months ago. Say it now,
and I'll say it next fall. I'll say it next spring. Whatever. Yes,

(51:19):
I'm starting him. If everything's on the line and I
gotta win one game and all my pitchers are rested.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
He starts.

Speaker 9 (51:25):
That's just my zero argument for me. Jason will get
you into the conversation before we hit the steak out.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
You want to join him?

Speaker 9 (51:31):
Someone three, two, one, two, five, seven ninety that's the
number to get in and a tough look for this guy.
That's all I can say for right now. It'll make
more sense once we get to it. It is a
Sean Salisbury Show on a Monday, Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Speaker 5 (52:56):
Quick couple things on Bromber.

Speaker 14 (53:00):
I like Bromber, but there's a big turnaround from last
year to this year. I know last year they was
you know, he was big on quality starts and everything
and he still is. But you know, if you're gonna
talk about positioning on the field and backing up or
being in the right spot, you know, you know this

(53:22):
weekend when he didn't back up home plate, that just
you're just contradicting yourself. And the second thing is, I'll
be honest, people do care about the teams that you wear,
the hats, the jerseys. This weekend I had an unfortunate
incident at Dyking Park, but shout out to the fans

(53:44):
who offered to buy me another jersey. But I wore
my Chipper Jones Hall of Fame jersey to the Astros
game because our family just decided to go on to fly.
It was a surprise of my mother in law, and
some idiot decided he was gonna dump his beer on
me because he was pissed off. So kind of some
people do kind of care what you wear.

Speaker 10 (54:04):
It just depends on who it is, all right, I
appreciate it. Sorry to hear about that that sucks. But no,
that's that's unacceptable.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
Oah.

Speaker 10 (54:12):
Even if they would have wore a Yankee hat in
that ballpark, Yeah, you don't.

Speaker 5 (54:17):
You you'd leave.

Speaker 10 (54:18):
You don't dump a beer on them, and you don't
fight them because of the hat. If you do, you're
just buying into some of these other cities who do that.

Speaker 5 (54:24):
Don't be them. Oh well, that's that's just being fan
That's what's fanatic.

Speaker 15 (54:28):
You know.

Speaker 10 (54:28):
That's called being an idiot, that dumb ass. It's called
being something else that I got news for your brother.
I'm wheeling at that end. You want to see Red
come out and see red, dude it there will be
no hesitation.

Speaker 9 (54:42):
I was gonna say, there's probably two times that I
would get to that level of anger'd be something like that,
or if like I've got kids and you're talking to
my kids and not to me. You want to talk
to me, talk to me, don't talk to my kids.

Speaker 10 (54:56):
Yeah, and I have been you know, you see it
happen had you been somebody around him, and that would
have been a problem. I would you know, Jason gets defended, right,
I just and let me back up for a second.
A Chipper Jones Hall of fame jersey. You know, Astro's

(55:17):
ballpark is a problem for who I mean, for a moron,
for who I mean, for exactly who I could care
less if you wear to stop it. You are Kim
Griffy Jr. Jersey and they're playing, and you're in the
fans stands. He played for the team. He doesn't play
for this team. Not not only that it's Kim Griffy Junior.
It's a pretty good player of people love you. It's

(55:38):
okay to wear Randy Johnson jersey even though he played here,
a Seattle Randy Johnson jersey on a day that they're
not here.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
It's it's a hall of fame.

Speaker 11 (55:46):
See.

Speaker 10 (55:46):
I think there's different levels of it. I don't think
you probably want to show up wearing a Julio rodrig
while they're playing. I get that, or a hat if
they're from Seattle and they root from leave them alone.

Speaker 5 (55:59):
You know, excuse me. You don't have to boom. I
mean you can boom, joke around.

Speaker 10 (56:03):
You don't have to throw beer on somebody because they
because I would want the same treatment when you go
to Boston, New York or Seattle that you can wear
an Altu Bay jersey. And not have to worry you
about your safety. You're getting a beer thrown on you,
a Chipper Jones Hall of Fame jersey. Whoever the fan
has deserved an ass whooping, and I hope somebody gave
it to him in the right way. I'm not promoting violence,
but grabbed him by the nap of the neck and
walked him up away from people and made sure that

(56:26):
he had an idea that this is unacceptable. Don't be
that fan. Don't tell well, I'm a great fan of pass.
You can't wear somebody else. Yeah, I can't see. There's
times I want to do that on purpose, just to
test it. Honest to god, I never get to be
the guy, and I'm not looking for trouble ever, But
when I hear this stuff, I get the point. I say,
just once, let me wear a hat from some or
something like that, a Hall of Fame jersey from somebody else,

(56:47):
and somebody that's at the ballpark decides they want to
throw a beer on you because you got that jersey
on it, a Chipper Jones, You got a Jim Rice
Hall of Fame jersey on and somebody don't like and
you're not even playing the Red Sox and they stow
a beer on you. Oh no, no, no, But I
never get that. I never get the guy who if
you wore a Trump hat, that wants to fight you.

(57:08):
I don't ever find that guy ever. And maybe size
has something to do with it, But I never get
that guy. And I'm never sitting next to the guy
who gets the beer thrown on him, so I can
help defend him because he didn't do anything wrong, and
he's with kids and he has to apologize to somebody
or explain why he's wearing a chipper Jones. He didn't
know what apology to anybody. If you're that fan who
threw it on him, that's a problem man. For me,

(57:31):
I'm sure it is for you too. I just don't
get it. Don't give me well, I love my tea,
were good. If you love your team, pay a little
respect to That's exactly right. That's exactly right. Those type
of guys, you know, that's one where Oh he responded,
he took he took a right hook to the face.
Never saw it, Sorry, So I don't know what happened.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
Who punched him?

Speaker 10 (57:52):
Yeah, I don't even remember who was Yeah, I didn't
see it. Yeah, I didn't see it was Jack Reacher. Okay,
I saw you got punched. I just didn't see. I'm
not sure it could have been from many seven, four
or five different people, not exactly. Sorry, but yeah, it's
just unacceptable to have to go through that, to go
to a ballpark. See, if you're him, do you ever
go back?

Speaker 5 (58:10):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 10 (58:11):
That's pretty that's probably soiled and soured me, right, and
that that's not fair to all fans. And in ballparks
there's always a group of somebody in your mind goes there.
There's no doubt, there is no doubt because it's the
old one. When one does it, it feels like all
do it. And it's not fair. But that's the way
you think. And I got news for you. If one
of our fans was in another city and that happened

(58:32):
to them, they it would be you'd be fit to
be tied. See.

Speaker 9 (58:36):
And that's where it kind of because I mean, I
remember we went to a game a few years ago
and they were playing the Padres, and the guys that
were sitting next to us were Padre fans. And then
also too, I got to talk with the guys. They
were all deputies with the San Diego County Sheriffs, So
you know, I was just like, you know, hey, you know, man,
these people are giving it to you pretty good. And

(58:56):
they're like, we're cops, dude, we know how to handle.
We're good.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
Yeah, we're seeing the movie before.

Speaker 9 (59:02):
Like I got a get it on a daily basis, right,
even in our own hometown, We're good.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
No doubt.

Speaker 10 (59:07):
I was at a ballpark. I might even been in Boston.
I can't remember it was, but I have a Chris
Sale All Star. You know, I told you I'm not
a Jersey guy beer, but I did get that. I
thought it would look cool and a Sale fan. Yeah,
so you're telling me if the Astros play the Red Sox,
and my whole life has been you grew up a
socks guy.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
Even though I'm here right now, I end up in Houston,
I can like both.

Speaker 13 (59:26):
I love.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
I mean, it's just that's the way. But I'm not
gonna rub anybody's face.

Speaker 10 (59:29):
But if I wore a Chris Sale jersey who no
longer pitches for them, but a Chris Sale Jersey All
Star jersey to dik In Park and the Red Sox
were playing the Astros, do you think that warrants.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
Somebody trying to throw a beer on me, I would
tell that person to pack a lunch. Given your size,
well they wouldn't need a lunch because they wouldn't even
get a first bite. Okay.

Speaker 10 (59:50):
If it would be, it would be one of those
you know you talk about quick twitch. If it wouldn't be,
I wouldn't talk my way through. It's just like parties,
is no. I just like Chris SAMs An also reds.
It's not it doesn't matter. It's not that big a deal.
They thank you, and it's not being tough guy. It's
just like that kind of smoke. He's right around the corner.
BULLYE drive me friggin' especially drunk ones. You know, I'll

(01:00:11):
get the real drunk was say the next day, Man,
I was drunk good and I was doing it gives
you then you know there's meetings for that and you
should probably look into it. Yeah, somebody shoots somebody and
they say, oh, he's got a mental health issue, No kidding, No,
he went he went and lit somebody's house on fire.
You think he's got a mental health issue?

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
Yeah, you do that. Oh I was drunk.

Speaker 10 (01:00:30):
Well then guess what next time you're drunk, baby, baby,
stow that beer. Wait, don't throw it on somebody for
wearing a jersey you didn't like a Chipper Jones jersey.

Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
Stop it.

Speaker 9 (01:00:38):
You're two for two today because Florida teacher arrested by
police after finding him passed out in campus parking lot
behind the wheel of a crashed car. This happened in
spring Hill, Florida, and thirty two year old Phillips Sire
rested in charge were driving under the influence. According according
to the Hernando County Sheriff's Office, police first arrived on

(01:01:00):
the scene single car vehicle crash that he went into
a fence in the rear parking lot of the school
and was the school's resource officer.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
He was I'm sure won't be now, I would imagine not.

Speaker 9 (01:01:16):
Why so vehicle is still in gear when the cops
found him several single served alcohol containers, Which wouldn't that
be the thing, because I don't think you're going to
drink something out of a bottle or a can and say, hey,
let me refill this thing.

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
Right, Snydecker.

Speaker 10 (01:01:30):
So basically he's fortunate that he ran into a tree
and not somebody else and killgo So ingo it just
to me, it's a poor excuse. But leave a family
alone that happens to wear Chipper Jonester, just stop it,
Just stop it. You're not proving to me you're a
bigger fan because you can't stand somebody wearing a non asphoc.

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
So that's one of those that.

Speaker 9 (01:01:46):
You're sitting around even as you're an Astros fan, and
you're like, I'm embarrassed for.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Us, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 10 (01:01:51):
And if you're the wife of the guy who did
it or the friend, you should have been embarrassing. You
should have grabbed him. And because we stopped it.

Speaker 9 (01:01:56):
Because we see this a lot in college football where
something like this happened. Granted, it does seem like the
fan fights are more in the NFL because most most
college venues, they're like no alcohol, we're just not gonna
do it. We're not gonna have the we're not gonna
have the liability, we're not going to allow for this
to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
Fight in the stands. Yeah, so a lot of this happens.

Speaker 9 (01:02:14):
So a lot of the videos that you will see,
they're fights in the parking lot, they're fights at the tailgate,
which if you're a school you're just kind of like, hey,
fight out there. We don't care as long as it's
not in our place and as long as we're not
the ones on the hook.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
But I'm still I just assume if you're wearing a
jersey for the other team, it's part of me.

Speaker 10 (01:02:31):
It's okay, I talk about you're playing against each other
in Auburn and Alabama. Auburn fans go to Alabama. It's okay,
it's it's part of them, of course.

Speaker 9 (01:02:40):
But then it's like also though too, it's just like,
all right, hey, you got you got your shots, and
we're good.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
The attentions out here.

Speaker 10 (01:02:47):
Yeah, we're watching watching the game, right, And I respect
that you're A and M playing Texas and you're both
wearing your jerseys.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
That's cool, no big deal. But this, come on now, man,
it's just it.

Speaker 10 (01:02:56):
I've just never understood that type where you get to
a player you want fight somebody for wearing some jersey.
That's an ode to Chipper Jones. Yeah, we should all
have a Chipper Jones Hall of Fame jersey. That sucks, Jason.
I'm sorry to hear that, man, But yeah, you know,
idiots will be idiots. There's not much you can do
about it. Hide that, that's for sure.

Speaker 9 (01:03:15):
Well, you can also avoid them to at a certain point,
and as you get older in life you kind of say, hmm,
my bucket of problems.

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
You Yeah, you're not going in it. Sorry.

Speaker 10 (01:03:25):
Sad thing about it is he shouldn't have to worry
about that at a ball, you know, don't don't judge
so and so. Well I just did, and I'm not
going to.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
Be around him. It's tough to make a better impression
the second time. It's hard. I'm gonna say one of
those type of impressions.

Speaker 9 (01:03:36):
There's not a lot of retease in life, and so
you know you want that, Well, go ahead and hit
it in the fairway next time. All right, let's get
into a little bit of Texans because Trader Nick he
is at work and the motives are very simple to understand.

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Speaker 9 (01:05:27):
And The Shawn Salsbury Show continued. They obviously got you know,
doors blown off them in the What's it called?

Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
Series?

Speaker 9 (01:05:38):
The Tampa Bay Rays series, even though they split the series.
That was the only other time that I think you
did position player. Both of those games you got crushed.

Speaker 10 (01:05:48):
It doesn't happen. But I'm saying it's it's that doesn't
happen very often. Doesn't happen very often, real quick to
thirty one. The five they got outscored this weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
Yeah, not good. That's getting that's getting it done. Good job.

Speaker 10 (01:05:58):
You've said that a couple times this year on weekends
with the discrepancy. Now the other one that I mentioned
that right, Uh, this from s R sexy common since
five seven five, so I said, Sean Fromers said the
I don't know why his dredge. Sean Fromer said, the
second most innings pitch since twenty twenty two. I'll stop
right there. Did I not say he's an innings eating
log He logs innings and he is always gonna Yeah,
he went six innings in that start that he completely

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fumbled it away against the Red Sox. What's the point
most innings pitch per start three oh seven ERA A
one three three e r A plus is two inconsistent.
Nobody here said he was inconsistent with his performance at
least I don't. I don't know, but he's been inconsistent
as far s you can log innings and do that
but still be inconsistent with some of the things you're doing.

Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
I said. The mental inconsistency.

Speaker 9 (01:06:39):
Bothers me is I think the more fairs he's been
inconsistent in the key moments that you remember.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
Fair enough, So only two.

Speaker 10 (01:06:45):
Pitchers six innings, six hundred innings pitch since twenty twenty
two have a lower eer, Wheeler and Burns.

Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
We just said that.

Speaker 10 (01:06:51):
Smoltzen said that he's dynamic and dominant. I said when
he's going right, he's at at times unhittable. All pitchers
have bad games. Nobody said they didn't. We've had said
that Wheeler sucked twenty two World Series. Great, but I'm
not talking about Wheeler. He doesn't pitch here. And Colin
jv lost three games in the World Series in twenty
nineteen World Series. I've said part of it. I've said
in my pastor you're talking about Justin Berlander. His postseason

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and seven in World Series has not been great. For
the most part, he has not been a dominant one
of those guys. He just hasn't. But he's been really
frigging good. Okay, So we just just let you know
you got when you listen and you gotta just not here.
You gotta listen. Nobody said that fron Braval does. We
have matters that called him a premium left hander. That's

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I just said. I won't pay him right now thirty
million bucks a year for six years. I won't do
it five years. I won't not today. So the inconsistencies
for me are with the mental instabilities not the right word,
the middle inconsistency of wearing it on your sleep. But
he has been, as I said this show, been able

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to more than ever be able to at least fight
through and get to the next thing. When he first
started doing it, he was done, he got sideways, he
was finished. He's got better at that. There's no doubt
when he's going good. When Smoke stets up here and
says that, of course he can pitch. Hence why you
did I not say that? We could have resign him
or extended him earlier yet no doubt. But now the

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better he gets or the way it goes, it's gonna
be gonna price himself out. So if he pitches grad,
he will price himself out here, not somewhere else. Hell yeah,
he's gonna get paid. I just I'm not willing to
go thirty million for five or six years. You said
you aren't either, So there's the case, and maybe they will.
So nobody nobody's comparing him to to how good you
know Corbyn Burns are, or how good you know Scooball

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or anybody else or Verlander and Cole I get that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
But when it comes to mental inconsistencies, I got news
for you.

Speaker 10 (01:08:46):
You're taking Verlander over over from or any day of
the week and twice on Sunday to get through that stuff.
So he's got some great things to love, he's got
a few things not to like. And his is the
emotion part of him gets the best. If there's a weakness,
that's it. That's all set on here. So you can
dial it any way you want on Twitter, but you're

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not going to win that fight. Okay, because you looked
up some stats. We know the stats. See him all
the time, but you can't just poably have bad games.
Well he's had some bad games. I mean, he hasn't
been great the last four, but he's logged innings and
you know why they need it because right now Sean
Duban can't get me out.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
Okay, So there you have it.

Speaker 10 (01:09:24):
And I've said I think Frommer's a hell of a pitcher.

Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
We've said it.

Speaker 10 (01:09:27):
He was going through a stint earlier this year Dan
where he was like, damn, this dude is out of
his mind, going the sinker and the breaking ball, was
getting the ground balls. He was doing in the ballpark
most of the time.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
So so that's it. You don't have to give me statistics.

Speaker 10 (01:09:42):
I mean some are great, but I have a pretty
good idea of what he's done in his career and
what he's done and put him. He's as good a
workhorse as there is in baseball. He always has been
when logging innings. Here's the Rockets comparison. You know who
he can be at times, Jalen Green. And what'd you
do with Jalen Green?

Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
Well, he's playing for the Suns right now.

Speaker 13 (01:10:00):
There.

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
You just answered my question. Oh but yeah, so they
I mean he's not the He's not perfect.

Speaker 9 (01:10:05):
Hey, Jalen Green. You know he averages twenty one points
or whatever he does per game. Don't text me, but like,
you know, whatever it is. We saw what had happened
in the playoffs while he's getting blitzed. Well, guys that
are supposed to factor factor they find.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
A way, right And and listen, do I want from
brow on?

Speaker 10 (01:10:23):
Of course you need him, but you're gonna need his
emotional and mental toughness to match the physical toughness.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
If if he had the.

Speaker 10 (01:10:30):
Emotion of Hunter Brown, in my opinion, fromber would be
damn near unhittable. He would be your he'd be the
and he'd win a cy Young more than once. That's
the only thing in my mind that keeps him away
from even another level. And he's really damn good. Now
nobody's doubted that. But you could be really good and
not be everybody's favorite. If it's a game seven and

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in the seasons on the line, I'm starting Hunter Brown.
You can start whoever you want so that I need
them both or they've got no shot. That's don't ary
the lead. It's the hitting clutch, hitting at the right time.
This team is just a bund They're just very average
at the plate as a baseball club this year. And
I know I said thirty one to five, Okay, fine,

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they got outscore thirty to five.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
Are you happy? Is that better?

Speaker 9 (01:11:17):
So somebody checked you on that? No, I'm just I
checked myself. But for the ones, it's a preemptive checking
right there with anybody. Oh well, Dan, it was actually
this with nice little amper sand in there. Yeah, I
don't need it asterisk whatever, who cares. But I mean,
it's just not a good weekend. He set the tone
for it, and it's not to say that this weekend

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went the way it did for how he pitched. But
I'm just saying for guys that are counted on, I'm
now my attention has turned to the pitching staff because
it was the other way around early on the season.
I wasn't upset with them if something bad happened because
I was like, that's pleasantly surprising. Now it's the other
way around, especially with him and Hunter Brown. Sorry, those

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are the cards you're dealt That's what you deal with.

Speaker 10 (01:12:01):
That's why we all have an opinion, brother, and uh not.
Every statistic tells you the full story, good and bad.

Speaker 5 (01:12:08):
Right, So there you go.

Speaker 10 (01:12:09):
So if you're going to tell me you think Frombers
is mentally tough as some of the other guys when
it comes or emotionally not even emotionally tough, then then
you're you're talking to the wrong guy. And that that's
something I I think I know something about and that
his if he has a weakness, that's it. And I
don't mind a guy gets fired up until but when
it affects you in a negative.

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
Way, I don't know. He just said it. I don't
mind if you do.

Speaker 9 (01:12:34):
If you can rein it in like there are guys
that can do that and there are guys that honestly,
you just you have to carry the stoic approach out
there otherwise you're off your game.

Speaker 10 (01:12:41):
Right, It might be one of them, and that's okay
as long as you can overcome it. And he will
log innings all the time. But the great Fromber's unhittable.
Well if that's with everybody, Yeah, but he's done a
great kudos to him. He's done a much better job
over these last handful of years of being able to
still get through games to point even when he either
is not pitching his best they need innings logged, or

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he's had some emotion get to him, but it still
affects him and it's visible.

Speaker 9 (01:13:08):
Let me tell you when logging tangible to let me
tell you when logging innings really doesn't matter the postseason.

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
Did you get outs? That's what it is. Did you
get outs? Because that's that's all that matters at that.

Speaker 10 (01:13:20):
Point, and get outs when runners are when you're in
a high leverage situation, not only as a starter in
the bullpen right now and unfortunately they're not pitching. The
bullpen hasn't been as well Dubin's been a part of
that that has not been as good as they've been
all year long, and they are. It comes down to this,
as we've said, if there's one major weakness that will
keep them out of advancing deep into the playoffs, it's

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going to be their inability to drive the baseball at
the right time.

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the hour. Around it back into some astros.

Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
But Sean, we talked about it.

Speaker 9 (01:15:56):
I think it was even last week, even without Brevin
Jordan and old job bummed. I was for that because
I was like, man, you know Brevin Jordan in this
offense when I think I have an idea of how
Nick Cayley is going to do things based off the
way that they did things in LA because Higbee is
the tight end there, right And you want to talk
about a guy that puts up some yards for you
fantacy football owners out there, your commercial renegade. You know

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he's a guy to think about, no doubt, but also
to help your quarterback. I mean, we've seen an offense
that at times was unimaginative last year. If they ran
the football, they won games. If they didn't run the football,
then it was going to be a struggle, and we
saw more often than not it didn't go their way.
So that's where the tight end. And you can count
on the tight end. And Bryant is a guy that

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if I'm not mistaken with Mackie Award winner, I think, right,
I don't know he might have. So somebody that might
have an opportunity to catch on somewhere else, be in
the right system and finally realize that potential.

Speaker 5 (01:16:53):
And you know what's.

Speaker 10 (01:16:54):
Interesting about this if you wondered, well we can go
on without Revin Jordan, that ought to tell you how
their concerns at the tight end position. They went and
got a guy who's who's not going to start every day.
You know, he's a he's he's gonna make a roster
in Philly. But they went and got a guy who
can play. They and gave up a fifth round pick

(01:17:15):
to get to to give up Mechi and a fifth
round pick they get, they get up, they get, they
give up Mechi. They got a fifth round or and
a tight end for Mechi. The point is a tight
end was including that what do we say Last week
when Brevin Jordan was hurt, we thought, okay, are you
going to continue to work to upgrade the position, or
do you believe that with last year's draft pick from

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Ohio State and having Dalton Schultz is going to be enough.
They obviously don't, or you wouldn't have done this. You
may have done it for a fifth round pick in
something else, but a tight end was obviously important to you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
That I mean.

Speaker 10 (01:17:49):
Just but now the way this irb Smith last year
for a reason, right, and a fifth round pick can
be impactful. It really, it really can be so and
mechi as much as I wanted him to have success
here and hopefully he will there, it just never you know,
with the injury and his battle with I was was
it non lymphoma?

Speaker 13 (01:18:07):
Is that what it was?

Speaker 10 (01:18:09):
Right to his battle and God bless him, but it's
just never the guy we saw at Alabama just because
of those you know, the knee and the rest of it.
We never got to see him at his best because
when he was at his best Alabama, he was what
you see from Devontae Smith.

Speaker 5 (01:18:23):
He was that guy and you just never got to
see it.

Speaker 10 (01:18:25):
But it tells you how important they feel, and Nick
Casseroo feels a tight en position is Remember Nick was
there when they were loaded with tight ends in New England.
He gets it and that's an important position. So they
didn't just say a fifth rounder and a throw in guy.
You know that, we want a fifth round and throw
in guy from Mechi. They went and got a fifth
rounder and a guy that they think needs to come
help them. And it's important and that position is going

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to be important for their success, not only with your
hand of the dirt and blocking, but creating space for
the guys on the outside. You cannot just be outside
the numbers team. You've got to be able to operate inside.
And that tight end position is going to be big,
and also got to be able to put a couple
in there and play you know, twelve personnel or what
have you, and line up and say we're gonna we
got a four minute drill. We're ending this game running

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the football and we are going to dominate you. And
that titan better be able to block. So there's an
elevation to this that has to happen. And you know what,
I think this is a good trade for the Texans.

Speaker 9 (01:19:19):
I do Pro Football Riders All Rookie Team in twenty
twenty with the Cleveland Browns twenty four catches, two hundred
and thirty eight yards that year, thirty one catches for
two thirty nine, which is one touchdown. A couple of
years later, but ever since then, it's just kind of
been what are you talking about, Bryant? Oh yeah, but
just a guy.

Speaker 10 (01:19:37):
But the truth is, but a guy, a guy that
creates depth and gives you an opportunity as a backup
going in and making a few plays. I'm not expecting
him to come here and catch ninety balls, but I
expected to come here and contribute. And right now that's
the At some point in time, I'm gonna tell you
what you talk about a test year for a tid
end position here this year and Dalton Schultz's is this

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He's got to understand this is critical for him this
year to elevate.

Speaker 5 (01:20:04):
You got talent at that spot, this would be the
spot to be.

Speaker 9 (01:20:06):
We can continue the Sexans conversation a little bit later
on in the show, but for now, back into the
astros Steve Sparks for his weekly visit here Sean Salisbury Show,
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Speaker 5 (01:20:58):
Steve Sparks joined this and it's good to have him aboard.
Steve welcome in.

Speaker 10 (01:21:04):
Crazy series to say the least, but heading on to
Detroit to take care of their business this week. But
I guess you're overall just kind I'm kind of curious
about your overall evaluation just on what you saw from
the Astros this week. And I know the win loss column,
but overall evaluation, if this was the first time somebody
was watching them, yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:21:23):
I looked very uneven, you know, when you're watching the
whole homestand and that the Astros were able to go
three and three being outscored by thirty something runs, it
was pretty remarkable.

Speaker 13 (01:21:34):
So thank goodness that the Americas have cooled down a
little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:21:38):
Yep.

Speaker 13 (01:21:39):
But you know, we talked about this. This is going
to be tooth and nail all the way to the end.
I don't just count Texas either, but there's just weaknesses.
Every team has a weakness or two, you know, and
everybody's tired, and everybody's not feeling great at this time
of the year. So you just had to fight your
way to get maybe into that timber where you can

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see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Speaker 10 (01:22:03):
Steve, we're at a point now when you've been at
this stage of the game. Is there too much discres
you know, when they're not playing well and getting hammered,
it's it's it's it's it doesn't look good at the plate.
Are we at the point of the season where these
discrepancies are a little bit too far apart for people
to feel comfortable about the hitting going into the well,
which is the one hundred meters sprint.

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
Now to the end.

Speaker 13 (01:22:25):
You know, it's funny, and I probably said this on
your show a couple of times, that there's a certain
type of picture that gives the astros the most trouble.
And it's exactly like the one that pissed yesterday Dan
Kramer with a cut fastball. Things moving away from the
right handed hitters where it's you feel like, okay, well
the left he's got to pick up a little bit
of a slot because this is a weakness that the

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team has. And you know when you get san Chanz
and Melton and Tremell and these guys, they need it.
They need to do some stuff on those days when
when it's a tough matchup and Jordan, you know, hopefully
he gets back sooner than later and he provide that
spark that you need to. But you know, we saw
it in the first home stand. I remember Griffin Canning.

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It wasn't a big name where you're thinking, all right,
the Astro should win this game, but nope, he's going
to deal. I think he went seven endings, maybe one
run I can't even remember, but he struck out a million.
And it's that type of picture that gives the Astros
a lot of favors. There are a lot of problems
and the biggest reason why they're so right handed heavy

(01:23:28):
so when they do get left, he's in there. Those
guys have to have to do something for him.

Speaker 10 (01:23:33):
Steve Sparks, Astros broadcaster, joins us as he does every
single Monday at eight o'clock.

Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
Steve, I am, we had a chance to.

Speaker 10 (01:23:39):
I don't think we discussed this with you, the hater
situation with him out how big I mean, obviously he's
having a phenomenal year. How big a disruption is that
going to be to this team?

Speaker 13 (01:23:51):
I think it's very difficult. I think it makes it
imperative now that you have to you have to really
make sure that Brian and Brady remains healthy and fresh
the rest of the rest of the season. And whether
it's not whether it's pitching in the eighth inning or
the ninth inning, you're looking for the leverage and which
portion of the lineups up for the other team. He's

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your guy. He's the one guy that you can't have
go down. You know, just assume that Hater's not coming back.
Hater's got to be your man. Uh, and he's gotta
he's got to face the toughest hitters. And in my eyes,
I mean, you got to really take care of him
and not get him up too much, don't don't put
him in a five run game and things like that.

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I think he's the one person on this entire team
that you can't afford to lose at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
So is the Hater.

Speaker 13 (01:24:43):
Injury dire? It is, But if a break goes down,
and then I would I would say, all right, man,
it's it's really gonna be almost impossible to survive what
you need to survive for the next six weeks.

Speaker 10 (01:24:58):
Steve, you've talked about this bullpen, how good they've been
for the majority of this year, you have and in
stress that you the US strength obviously, and that's in
the numbers and all that, but as of late and
we'll get to dubin here in a second, But are
they tired?

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
I know it's late in the season. Everybody's tired.

Speaker 10 (01:25:13):
Yeah, but so tired, especially with the way that they're
the inconsistency in driving runs and putting people across the plate.
We talked about that discrepancy. Are they Is this going
to be a problem when you combine the two. I mean,
do you see this being an issue with rest the
way it's going.

Speaker 16 (01:25:30):
Well, it's yeah, it's a great question, and I think
it's a problem if you have situations occur like yesterday
and you can't plan for these.

Speaker 13 (01:25:39):
You can't plan for a line drive off of the
guy's ankle, right, or a guy getting thick and only
pitching three innings and then uh oh, we didn't plan
for this. But one thing that the Astros need more
than anything else and I think they're always get on
really good runs when somebody comes almost out of nowhere

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and it's a long reliever and he gives them three
in the third innings and he throws a ton of
strikes and he gets them deeper into the game, and.

Speaker 16 (01:26:07):
Even if they lose that particular game, he sets up
the rest of the bullpen for the next four or
five days. But what you can't have is back to
back days of guys not going very deep and somebody
can't throw strikes in long relief, and then you crush everybody,
and then you feel it for the entire next series,

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and especially when you're in a tough portion of your schedule.
Those guys got to come through, and you like to
load what they're able to do when they when they
do well, and talk about it and tell people like
Jason Alexander, it's so important that he's gone six innings
those last.

Speaker 13 (01:26:48):
Three games and given them quality innings and we really
didn't expect that, but it came out of nowhere, and
you really have to have that, And it's one reason
why I feel like I'm more comfortable with Hunter Brown
than Probat Valdez. Split in the rotation, so you don't
have three days in a row of guys that aren't
their caliber pitching in a row where you might have

(01:27:09):
a situation maybe back to back days when you have
to cover four or five minutes out of a bullpen.

Speaker 5 (01:27:15):
Steve with that, Sean Duber, Oh go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 11 (01:27:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:27:19):
Well, the first part of the season, I would say,
the first three and a half months or whatever before
the All Star break, they really got good consistent pitching,
and they go hand in hand as far as the
starter is getting deep, then you can line up your
bullpen and things usually look pretty rosy.

Speaker 10 (01:27:35):
See Sparks a couple more minutes here for his weekly
visit eight o'clock on Mondays. Steve, you, you're you watch
these guys a million times? Well, what, Sean Dubin? I know,
coming off an injury, but it's been a rough watch.
What what's the problem?

Speaker 13 (01:27:51):
I don't know. It's not the it's not the stuff,
it's the location. So it's you know, he had a
he had a long layoff and getting back in to
the routine, so he had a really tough home stand.
And you know guys who played that, they have all
been there, and man, I think he his e ra
raised from one three three. I think it was Sean.

(01:28:12):
I think his era was in the loath ones and
he raised it to five something.

Speaker 5 (01:28:17):
He was spectacular.

Speaker 13 (01:28:19):
He was phenomenal, no doubt. So I don't know what
kind of reset, you know, and I don't know how
much time they have to get him on track. But
stuff wise, he looks fine to me. The velocity looks good. Uh,
just just poor location and he got bit.

Speaker 5 (01:28:36):
Steve is fromber We talked about it. We know how
good he is.

Speaker 10 (01:28:39):
Hell would that that that'd be overstate and we've we've
talked about, you know, his stuff and what he's doing
right is is emotion still getting in his way?

Speaker 12 (01:28:46):
Is he?

Speaker 5 (01:28:46):
Is he still in his own way a little bit?

Speaker 13 (01:28:49):
Yeah? Yeah, of course, yeah, you see it. I mean
we all see it from time to time, and you
see frustration and not backing up basis. That's always frustration,
you know, and you know he's still a man in
a nightmare. Yeah yeah, I mean, yeah, he gets in
his own way from time to time. And you know

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that's just you know, you've known that since he was
what they signed him at twenty years old. They've known
that since he got into the organization that you know,
when he's right and he's focused and can deal with
adversity in the right way, that that's when you get
the best version of him. But man, the best version
of him, Sean is he is really good a game. Yeah,

(01:29:33):
he's a game change, no doubt. The question really really good?

Speaker 5 (01:29:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:29:37):
I guess Steve, well, he you know, at times he
and like I said, we've talked about the guys out
of his mind, you talked about Smoltz has come on
here and said, you know, and there's nobody that argues
that The question is moving even moving forward? Steve, you
and I aren't going to We're not. We're not you know, uh,
taking care of the contractor the money. I don't Eve
want to get into that because I'm worried about this year.
But you know, for him, the trust factor of building

(01:29:58):
of like, okay, if it he gets to nut cut
in time or their adversity hits in a in an
elimination game, how should we feel?

Speaker 5 (01:30:06):
You know better night?

Speaker 10 (01:30:07):
And it's not personal, it's just a will he ever
get full grasped with that? I know it's a hard
thing to do, but can you fix that at this
point in his career.

Speaker 13 (01:30:17):
Well, my answer is I don't know, right. But the
next answer I have is, when you look at the
free agency market, I think his best comp lately has
been Max Free who signed an eight year two hundred
and eighteen million dollars something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:33):
Yeah, that was two hundred plus.

Speaker 13 (01:30:35):
Yeah, And I think Robber might be a year older
than him, but he's been more healthy throughout his career.
So you're talking about a very valuable pitcher and everybody
would love to have him on their team, everybody. I mean,
he's just he's really good, and you're crossing your fingers
that you can help him get through some of those

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things from time to time. And maybe that just reminds
Carlos Korea to up, you know, to the middle of
the diamond, maybe a little quicker with him, make sure
things don't spiral, you know, from time to time we saw,
you know, we see catchers do that. But I think
Carlos can help him that matter too.

Speaker 10 (01:31:13):
See Sparks for a couple more minutes here on Sports
Talk seven ninety Steve, you know you're not going to
be heading down to Corpus for that that rehab assignment.

Speaker 5 (01:31:21):
You know they're gonna play.

Speaker 10 (01:31:22):
I mean, what do you think we should if if
he gets back in the normal you know, however long
they're going to keep him down there when they see
enough when he gets up here, should we when he
gets your expect to see him every day in the lineup.
I mean at this stage of the game, if he's here,
he's healthy and ready to go correct. So should it
be a play where he's given him days off or
is it he's here and we're hitting the groundrunning because

(01:31:44):
we know he's gonna have fresh legs.

Speaker 5 (01:31:46):
What do we expect from him when he.

Speaker 13 (01:31:47):
Gets just a very dynamic hitter in an explosive bat.
I think that's what you expect. I don't think he'll
play every day, and that's just me and I might
be wrong, but I would imagine there's days but they
need to let it calm down, especially if he has
a couple of awkward swings. I think when he makes

(01:32:08):
contact and he's taken batting practice and everything's smoothie, he
makes good contact, I think he's fine. I think it's
you know, if you get fooled on a certain pitch
and it's an awkward swing, that's where things might flare
and you might give him a day off just to
get it reset. But I think you know, this is
the first time and Dana came in our booth yesterday
in pregame, this is the first time that I saw

(01:32:28):
him pretty excited about, you know, the chances of him
coming back and helping his team. And it's been a
while since I've seen that, So I'll just leave it
at that. You know, I think they're going to want
to see him play back to back days at some
point down there, right, and know that it's going to
recover cover well enough to get out there and impact
this team. So I think they're very optimistic and they're

(01:32:51):
excited about who they who could they can have late
late in this uh run the.

Speaker 10 (01:32:56):
Therapy, yeah, right now, just his presence alone obviously changes
his picture approach off, you know, when it comes to
Jordon and.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Better.

Speaker 13 (01:33:04):
Yeah, thinking about it the whole time, right all right,
Jon's four betters away.

Speaker 10 (01:33:08):
Right, And I would think that they would, like you said,
have to play him back back just to see if
they can. If he can handle it down there, can
he handle it up here? And so, uh, just to
test it, I would think you'd have to Steve before
we let you go. It doesn't get any easier with
where you're well, where you're playing your your next series.

Speaker 5 (01:33:23):
They're pretty good and they can pitch. Yeah, so this
should be a great test.

Speaker 13 (01:33:28):
Yeah, they've done well against first place teams. I think
I think they've won twelve out of fifteen against first
place teams this year in Seattle's playing in Philadelphia right now,
So you know, you got one eye on the out
of town scoreboard and one eye on the game. And
it's fun. I love this, you know. And amen, Uh,
you get Hunter and Frommer pitch it in this series
against Detroit, and you always like your chances with those guys.

Speaker 5 (01:33:51):
Would you change anything about the lineup right now? Steve?
The way that I mean lineup? I mean, I know
we don't set the lampup, but is there something that you.

Speaker 10 (01:33:57):
Would move around if you were making a decision for
the way at the plate I'm talking about?

Speaker 13 (01:34:03):
And there's nothing I really noticed. I will say that
I feel like they missed parades quite a bit. Yeah,
you know, his that and the amount of pitches he
sees was very taxing, and we kind of suspected that
when he went down. You know that that little piece
right there was going to mean something.

Speaker 10 (01:34:22):
That has well, it's going to be a grind, but
that's hell. Everybody's engaged. It should be a blast to watch.
As competitors, we would love to see this. So they
just hope that ends on the right way and a
little more comfort with a five or six game leave
would be great. But it's the way it is, and
it's kind of way we expected. It's, Steve, at the beginning,
I don't think anybody thought anybody's gonna run away with
a division.

Speaker 13 (01:34:42):
Yeah, it's a couple of really good teams, you know,
and everybody has their flaws, and everybody's hurting and they're tired,
and and that's why we love to watch it.

Speaker 5 (01:34:51):
I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 10 (01:34:51):
Should be a great series, and we always appreciate you,
and we'll do it again next money. Hopefully we'll even
be closer or at the point when the big fella's here,
so hopefully closer, and this time closer means he's just
well a couple cities away to get here. Steve, great stuff, brother,
We look forward to talking to you again next Monday.

Speaker 13 (01:35:08):
Thanks for having me, Sean, Thank you much.

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Speaker 9 (01:37:51):
Good teachers, Yeah, you always remember the good teachers, you know,
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I'm fully aware. But the old saying, you know, people
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you know, and teachers, I mean that was kind of
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ones were the ones that at one time I came
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Speaker 5 (01:38:20):
They hate me.

Speaker 9 (01:38:21):
No, it gave me a bad grade because I put
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the ones here I'll help you, although there was one
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If I'm not getting it, that's more on you than
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Speaker 10 (01:38:53):
The next chapter, the next whatever it might be. But
we also that's why good teachers are important. We also
remember the bad ones, and those are the ones I mean,
we do because they impact you. That's why good teachers
are so important and so good on, good on, uh,
good on your teacher today that you said is that
what you said?

Speaker 9 (01:39:13):
Early college, high school, good man nice in fact, and
I still remember some of my teachers. Shout out, mister Simon,
shout out, mister Bruno. You'll always remember the good ones ones.
You'll always remember your teachers. You will the impact they had.
One way, one of one of the greatest Spanish teachers
I ever had, Missus Gregorson, little Scottish lady that taught
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(01:39:33):
you know, Cadillac bar was right up the road, right
around Shepherd, she would come by in that Scottish accent,
you know, not at the Cadillac boss, sit up straight
to thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:39:42):
She wanted to make sure you wanted the Cadillac bar.
That's it.

Speaker 9 (01:39:44):
I like it that posture. Right, This isn't happy hour,
you know, especially in my class. You know, you get
your two's and s's and no sotros and all of those.
You make sure you come correct when you head into
Miss Gregorson's class. But a couple of things, just to
react to what Sparky talked about with us, and of
course he and Robert on the call tonight from there
in Detroit, Sean Duban was one thing that I thought

(01:40:07):
was interesting where he said and I think that a
lot of times, you know, Joe will say this, and
obviously Sparky pitched in the majors.

Speaker 5 (01:40:15):
I think he knows about this.

Speaker 9 (01:40:17):
Well, the stuff was good, and the fans kind of
hear that, and they're like, if the stuff was good,
why did he give up at least three runs in
every single one of his outings, Like, like, how good
was this stuff really? And sometimes that can happen. Sometimes
you do get beat by bad luck. Sometimes you just
happen to miss a spot with a couple of guys
on base, and well, they put it into the Crawford box.

Speaker 10 (01:40:36):
It's called it's called that's called pitching, it's called hitting.

Speaker 5 (01:40:41):
That's the way.

Speaker 10 (01:40:42):
You just don't want it to live there, right, You
want that to be the outlier as opposed to the
consistency of the team. And this team's unfortunately at the
plate this year, speaking of non pitching at the plate,
this year had their moments, and recently bullpens a little
bit taxed, had a few moments and Sean Duban has
not been the same guy. Says he come back, and
I guess understandably so but if you're gonna run him

(01:41:03):
out there, you have expectations that he's going to be
the one point three to three or one point three
five y are a guy, and unfortunately he hasn't been
able to get back to that so far. And how
patient you'll be with where he goes and how you're
gonna use him in leverage situations or non leverage situations,
and as far as pitching goes, and I'm with Steve
one hundred percent, staggering them is a wise move. It

(01:41:23):
really is, because you don't want there to be major
discrepancy between your one and two and then boom boom boom.
But I can tell you this, they're the biggest positive
over the last of the pitching staff the last fifteen
games because he's had three Star day like every fifth
day or whatever it is, every fifth chas and Alexander
has been outstanding. He has been a plus plus plus

(01:41:46):
for them, getting into past six innings or into the
sixth inning and giving you a chance at a time,
as Steve said, when well, he's done a good job.
But you didn't expect it to be like this, At
least I didn't. Most of us didn't even know who
the guy was he didn't know what to expect from
a guy. Well, yeah, I guess I've heard of him,
but I don't know much about his stuff. For what
he relies on what his pitch is. And here he is,

(01:42:07):
quite frankly, giving you a chance every time. And I
don't think right now he's been your third best pitcher
on your staff. He has been with the way he's going,
but that bullpen can't keep running him. He can't can't
run him into the ground. Like Steve said, the abray
you thing you do not want him tired or you
do not want him hurt, Well, both of those things.

Speaker 9 (01:42:26):
But I mean with Dubin four runs against the Red Sox,
three runs against Baltimore four yesterday you mentioned it, he
had a one point three to three ERA.

Speaker 5 (01:42:34):
Now he's up to five point four eight. It's been
a tough turnaround for him and it needs somehow Someway.

Speaker 9 (01:42:39):
Got to work his way back to pre injury because
it's getting to the point with no more options. You
got no choice than the pitch a guy down because
I can't throw him out there if I can't count.

Speaker 10 (01:42:48):
On him, and we're you're at the time and of
the year where you can't say it's okay, he'll come around.
We got time, there's not you're inside of forty games.
It's it's now. It has to You got to if
you're gonna get your best for them all this this
is the time to get it. And I know the
other team's getting paid, but this will be a great test.
This team has been good against good teams, so you
should expect them to perform. And then where they go

(01:43:10):
up to try back to Baltimore. I f on Baltimore,
you got you got six more. They will not be
easy in the and the You saw what the Orioles
can bring to the table. And we know hitting, but
more importantly pitching what Detroit's all about. And I think
Flarity gets to start. Although the record doesn't say it,
Flerity is still capable of going out and throwing a
gym on anybody.

Speaker 9 (01:43:25):
Yeah you get Flerity, you get Scooble tomorrow night, then
you get Chuck Morton on Wednesday. For you you go
Arraghetti tonight, Hunter Brown tomorrow and then uh fromber in
the afternoon finale.

Speaker 10 (01:43:35):
Yeah, the Wash on Tuesday. I mean, because I mean
the head to head pitching. It's it's it's you know,
to really really get over under is for that four
and a half. Oh yeah, probably they'll probably set it
me five five and a half, four and a half.

Speaker 9 (01:43:49):
So many Astro puts seven runs on them and you're like,
who are you guys like seriously, like, I don't I
don't get.

Speaker 10 (01:43:54):
Yeah, I don't understand agains. Well, you saw them. You
saw them finally get to Crochet, you know, I mean
they after him. I mean he's been the lights out
going into that.

Speaker 9 (01:44:02):
He was like, whoa double take from the fairway on
a par five where you're just like the one hopper
into the that's real rich you make that, but then
you miss about you know, three or four from less
than five.

Speaker 10 (01:44:15):
Feet right, And then now spencerra Getty, would you don't
you really don't know what you're gonna get, just like
Flerity requests. Flerity's been healthy, but you don't know what
you're gonna get. And then in the in the third game,
you know there's Charlie Morton's pretty Charlie Morton's the guy
that he's pitching the third game of the series.

Speaker 5 (01:44:32):
She said on Wednesday.

Speaker 10 (01:44:33):
You know, Charlie's one thing you know that the poison
will be there, and he's always he's going to show
up and compete. So this is the hell of a
pitching matchup because of the uncertainty. And then the Tuesday
ones can't miss baseball.

Speaker 9 (01:44:44):
Well for aarraghetty, it's ice cube, Shake him up, shake
him up, shake him up, shake him right. It's it's
truly a crapshoot.

Speaker 10 (01:44:51):
There's and and I would imagine that that that Detroit
understands that we know what he's capable of, but you
haven't quite seen that yet coming back. So there's a
lot to a lot of reasons to watch, aside from
the fact that you love baseball, love the Astros.

Speaker 5 (01:45:05):
But these pitching matchups are going to be interesting.

Speaker 10 (01:45:07):
Like you said, the Tuesday one, no matter what the
records are, those are two cats you want to see anyway,
anxious to see where the bats fit in. And like
you said, that's going to be a low number when
it comes to the over under, we'll go find out
real quick just exactly the Astros inconsistently of plate it's
going to have to rear its head on Tuesday, because

(01:45:28):
that guy a lot like Hunter and a lot like Farmer.
When they're going good, can make it miserable for you,
and it can embarrass you a bunch.

Speaker 5 (01:45:34):
In a baseball game on the mound.

Speaker 9 (01:45:35):
You're sixty nine and fifty five on the season, so
that means that you're thirty five and thirty one against
teams that are below five hundred.

Speaker 5 (01:45:42):
You want to know how you lose a division? You
keep doing that.

Speaker 10 (01:45:45):
Yeah, And as Steve pointed out, they're really good against
teams that are in first place.

Speaker 5 (01:45:49):
And here you go with one of the World Series
favorites in the American League.

Speaker 9 (01:45:53):
And also a two team that's not too far ahead
of you. So you want to be able to try
to get into one of those final two spots and
avoid that wildcard round.

Speaker 5 (01:46:01):
Well, this could go a long way to doing that.

Speaker 9 (01:46:04):
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Speaker 9 (01:48:01):
Just to wrap up. You know what we were talking
about with Sparky. That was the other thing that I
made a mental note to myself about. He's so right
about missing you socked Perettas. This lineup has not been
The sedger.

Speaker 10 (01:48:11):
Said the same thing, you know exactly one of our
callers about how important that loss has been, and it.

Speaker 9 (01:48:16):
Has been because he was a guy that for all
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is not good.

Speaker 5 (01:48:23):
He did them all.

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Now he's a guy that Again, some people I know,
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to forty type of guy.

Speaker 5 (01:48:33):
I get that. But it's the at bats that he
provides for you.

Speaker 9 (01:48:36):
He was an outstanding top of the order guy, where
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at it. Leadoff hitter or not, doesn't matter, he'll go
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(01:48:59):
you look up and it's a six, seven to eight
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Speaker 10 (01:49:02):
Yeah, he exhausts you. And and it's good he's been.
It wasn't just a pleasant surprise. He thought he'd be
a good player, But he's even better than I thought.
And this is a devastating injury to them. Now you say, well,
Correy is there, But all it does is it just somehow,
some way, pretes needs being a lineup right when I'm
talking about when he's healthy.

Speaker 5 (01:49:21):
You saw the difference he made. They do miss those
type of a bats.

Speaker 10 (01:49:25):
You're gonna hope you get those from somebody else, from
more than one Guy's one guy consistently. But he really
really did a great job of working the count up
in pitch counts and then being selective when he needed
to drive the baseball, and he did. That was a
great get considering the circumstances and what you needed when
you lost Bregman. Unfortunately, it's not it didn't happen. Unfortunately

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it didn't happen that we got him for a full season.
But I loved his grind and the way he performed
was nothing short of uh phenomenal. And you miss him
in the lineup, there's absolutely no questions. Yeah, and I
know he was with the team this weekend. Joe spot
him in exercise, bike, all of those different things. And
it's funny when I walked out onto the field for
the chance to talk with Joe on Saturday, I look

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to my left and I say, yeah, there's a number
fifteen for players weekend on the side of that hat.

Speaker 5 (01:50:12):
Is that him?

Speaker 8 (01:50:13):
You know?

Speaker 9 (01:50:13):
Kind of stocky guy, and I was like, oh, that's Peretis.
So there you go, so at least making the effort
to get back. I just don't count on him being back.

Speaker 10 (01:50:21):
Oh I love his grind how bad he wants to
be back that he just put the season asides out. Hey,
I'll wait till next year to keep myself healthy and
save myself. I've done enough to show them what kind
of player I am. Now he's done that. But I also,
to me, it says that the guy loves to compete
and and you know, and the question would be, will

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shit he have got surgery and worry about next year?
But you know what, you can't tell the guy that
if you feel if they say that, you don't have
to and if you still have a chance to make
it happen, love to have him back. I'm not counting
on either. Danny'd be a great bonus if you got him.
But regardless, he was given an opportunity and made the
most of it. And he's the type of guy you need.

Speaker 9 (01:50:59):
Here someone three two one, two five seven NINEY. We'll
squeeze in Brandon really quick. Brandon, what's going on?

Speaker 12 (01:51:06):
Good morning trying? Good morning Dan, how are you, good man,
how are you I'm doing Okay, I'm buying the Tiger.
Actually I'm playing. I'm playing the Astros against the Tigers.

Speaker 9 (01:51:18):
Got you, man, that's awesome. What about this weekend? What'd
you think about this weekend?

Speaker 12 (01:51:26):
We need to start losing.

Speaker 9 (01:51:28):
We need to start losing. We need to stop losing.
Oh okay, I thought you said start. I was like, wow,
they've been doing that.

Speaker 8 (01:51:36):
I was.

Speaker 5 (01:51:36):
I was like, oh no, Brandon, no, we we don't
want that type of energy out there.

Speaker 12 (01:51:41):
No, we need to stop moving.

Speaker 5 (01:51:43):
Okay, I got you.

Speaker 6 (01:51:44):
I got you.

Speaker 5 (01:51:45):
It's me.

Speaker 9 (01:51:45):
Maybe the coffee just didn't kick in. It's all good man.
But how are you feeling about the Tigers series?

Speaker 12 (01:51:52):
Hey, I'm playing with the Tigers right now.

Speaker 9 (01:51:54):
You're playing with them, So you're playing against the Astros.
You're playing against your own guys. Brandon, we can't have this.

Speaker 12 (01:52:00):
No, I'm playing I throws against the Houston.

Speaker 5 (01:52:07):
So you're playing against him. I got you, man, I
got you. Well, you two have both lost me. I know. Well,
I'm confusing myself. That's half the problem. Brandon. Good luck
in your game, man. We'll talk to you soon. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:52:20):
Not a good weekend, but first place teams. You heard,
Spark you mentioned it, what twelve twelve out their last
fifteen wins against first place teams.

Speaker 10 (01:52:28):
Yeah, they've been really good and they're going to get
a chance to get tested on the road again. But
just as quickly as we're frustrated dead, they'll tease you
back to gold Witted two or three winning the series.
You're like, okay, you know Duben goes and pitches lights
out to bullpit opportunities and Hunter Brown throws a three hitter.
I mean, well, I'm hoping, right. I threw that out
there last week about one thing. Let me throw that

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out there. I hope that it does win the series,
which will always be a good thing if you can
do that. This will be difficult, as we well know,
but this team has a way of getting things fixed quickly,
at least in the win loss column.

Speaker 5 (01:53:04):
I wouldn't expect this to fester. It may not look
the way you wanted to.

Speaker 10 (01:53:08):
It may be a two to one win, especially on
a game like Tuesday with those two pictures, but just
get out.

Speaker 5 (01:53:13):
Of here with a couple would be great. You know
what I was right there?

Speaker 9 (01:53:17):
I was you know how you get like that string
on your shirt and you probably should just go like
grab a knife for like, you know, pulling. It keeps
going and going and going. That's it And and then
you can see it. So I'm self reporting to the audience. Yeah,
it's like right in the middle. Yeah, and it goes
and then there's a little bit then there's a line
that shows you that you're trying to pull this sting
out right, yeah, like right about like the third or
fourth rib in your rib cage.

Speaker 10 (01:53:38):
That's all it would have been done. But just the
stubbornness and you wrap it around your finger and yank it.
It keeps yanking and true and shrinks it up where
it's like that's why I separate it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:45):
Yeah, that's okay.

Speaker 9 (01:53:46):
Yeah, I'll take the blame. I'm all gito right there.
I don't want you to personalize this. I'll take the blame.

Speaker 11 (01:53:54):
Ye.

Speaker 9 (01:53:55):
After he just asked the guys that they've been in
a gang fight or a street fight, which it's like, no,
you're dealing with a bunch of kids from suburban Houston
or Dallas or somewhere like that, right, of course they haven't.

Speaker 10 (01:54:05):
There was a there was a communication gap going on
in that list between you two. It happens, though sometimes
sometimes it does alltimes. Does Oggie lived a tough life
right there? Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:54:15):
In southern California? I guess yeah, school of hard knocks.

Speaker 10 (01:54:19):
Yeah, tough times had by all right, Yeah, tough hard
times is spreading just like the flu or Aggie was.

Speaker 5 (01:54:24):
I guess right.

Speaker 9 (01:54:25):
You had a good conversation because Julia Morales, of course
does a great job on TV. Well, her husband Matt Clark,
played baseball at LSU.

Speaker 5 (01:54:32):
And he was with Paul Minary there.

Speaker 9 (01:54:34):
So we were just talking a little college baseball this weekend,
and we were both just dying laughing thinking about Augie
where he perfectly is slamming the table in the Texas
locker room and yelling, I.

Speaker 5 (01:54:46):
Gotta live with this for the rest of my bleep
in life.

Speaker 10 (01:54:49):
He's one of a kind man, well, I mean he was.
He was special, There's no doubt and knows how to coach,
I mean no doubt to manage it. Do we call
the manager a coach in college, don't we?

Speaker 5 (01:55:01):
In college? Coach?

Speaker 13 (01:55:03):
Coach?

Speaker 10 (01:55:03):
And but he you know, at Fullerton and you know,
all those guys like Nevin and those guys got some
fun stories and Augie obviously was phenomenal.

Speaker 9 (01:55:11):
And a hell of an actor too. In the movie
for Love of the Game, there you go with the
line Stroud wreck it. There you go, And we'd love
that Stroud to wreck it this year, Yes, mister, we would. Yeah,
well he did reckon on the college level. And somebody's
got an idea that I understand what it is, but
it's still just ridiculous. We'll talk about it here Sean
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Speaker 9 (01:57:43):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show, the Big Ten, floating
the idea for a twenty four or twenty eight team
college football playoff because, well, as the headline says in
OutKick on OutKick dot Com, everyone deserves a chance U
huh in this case right here, I mean we also

(01:58:04):
have sean approof of what a twelve teamer looks like.
And I understand too the people, oh, well, South Carolina
had a chance, Ole Miss had a chance. You know,
Alabama had a chance. So those teams should have gotten
an opportunity should they have. I mean, what do we
see the first weekend of the college football playoff? Last year,
Indiana went to Notre Dame. They got smacked. Tennessee went

(01:58:24):
to Ohio State, same deal there. SMU went to Penn
State and they had zero chance to win that ballgame.
And the same goes for trying to think of the
other one that I haven't mentioned, Oh, Clemson at Texas.
Even though that was a little bit more of a shootout,
Clemson was not beating Texas that day. So we're talking
about teams that should have made it in that So

(01:58:46):
let's just say you had four more teams from last
year into the College Football Playoff.

Speaker 5 (01:58:50):
Any of those teams making a difference.

Speaker 10 (01:58:53):
I think you can win a game if you're lucky
to because in truth, the sixteenth team with a big
win on a normal like say in the game seven
of the season, and two teams lose, you go from
sixteen to twelve in a weekend. So yes, sixteen can
be impactful, meaning win a game. If you're asking me,
do I think the sixteenth ranked team in the country

(01:59:13):
can go on a roll and beat and win four games?
The answer is no, not because of the just the
depth of it. Now, if that sixteenth team on a
bad year happened to be Alabama, let's just say for
the hell of it. Fair enough, key injuries, maybe lost
a couple of games you weren't supposed to use right
and then and one a couple that you maybe with
the way your team was, your quarterback got hurt, backup

(01:59:35):
comes in is playing.

Speaker 5 (01:59:36):
Well, you know, you get my point? Do I think
that it's Do I get it?

Speaker 11 (01:59:40):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (01:59:40):
I get it?

Speaker 10 (01:59:41):
Do I think we're really on the slippery slope of
watering it down and making it because in truth, I'll
bet you we can have this conversation ten years from
now and the sixteenth team, if we had sixteen teams
will not have won a national title.

Speaker 9 (01:59:52):
That's premium television inventory too, So I mean that's part
of this. That's what it comes down to. Money, of course,
And you like you're on skyways do and you like
you're on campus games for the first weekend. We'll enjoy
them while you can, because soon enough the bowl games
are gonna realize they don't matter as much.

Speaker 5 (02:00:08):
So how do you matter?

Speaker 9 (02:00:09):
Hey, let's pony up this money that we've got and
be able to have the first round game between Notre
Dame and Indiana.

Speaker 10 (02:00:15):
Let's have it here in Tampa. Let's pony up some
money if you're it's always going to money, will always
eventually win in the end. So you may get a
first round at home. But if they're paying you ten
more million dollars, guess.

Speaker 5 (02:00:25):
What you're gonna do.

Speaker 9 (02:00:25):
You're the alibi ble Yeah, pony it up and get
Texas and what's their name? Playing in San Antonio?

Speaker 5 (02:00:31):
The great thing?

Speaker 10 (02:00:32):
The only thing I like about sixteenth? Now, listen and
do I like an underdog winning?

Speaker 5 (02:00:35):
If you get sure?

Speaker 10 (02:00:36):
Can sixteen upset one in football? More likely than sixteen
is gonna upset one in college basketball? Of course we
have seen it happen. Sixteen's not winning an NC to
a tournament in basketball, that's too six games they're they're
just the depth wise is just gonna wear them down right,
So yes, it can happen.

Speaker 1 (02:00:54):
Miss.

Speaker 10 (02:00:54):
If all Miss are in South Carolina, get in last
year as a twelve, they can beat somebody. But if
they are sixteen, say they can it's can they win
a national title? But the only thing I do like
about it more football? Who doesn't like more football?

Speaker 5 (02:01:07):
But the main thing is.

Speaker 10 (02:01:08):
I'm all for one not getting a bye. I am
I want to let's play them all. Let me ask
you this in the n C two a tournament does
in basketball trenches one get a bye, he plays, the sixteenth,
he plays six. After the play in games to get this,
the sixty four he plays. I had to think about
it as a trick question for a second, but but
he does. He plays. So for me, I want that.

(02:01:31):
I want you to have to play. Now, well, what's
the bonus to be in the first team. Well, you're
obviously having people. The committee's picking it, so you're subject
to some mistakes by which we've seen. But the main
thing is you get the sixteen draw. That's that. That's
your bye week. You get to play number sixteen if
you're voted one. That's the only thing I love about it.
I want them all to play and then it's all equal,

(02:01:53):
all battle tess like in the golf tournament real quick
dan In the past, depending on where you were and
how you played, you get a five stroke lead, you'd
be you'd be min five and when you're teeing it
up the term if you're Scotti Scheffler, you're not gonna
relinquish that. So this year everybody plays equal. Well what's
the advantage for Scheffler. The facts that he abody else

(02:02:15):
has got all the bonus money leading up to it.

Speaker 5 (02:02:17):
There you go.

Speaker 10 (02:02:18):
So yeah, if you're gonna go sixteen, it obviously says,
but you can't get bye.

Speaker 5 (02:02:23):
I'm all for that. I am all for that.

Speaker 10 (02:02:26):
Other than that, we're on the verge of getting it
two watered down. To me, sixteen in college football feels
like fifty plus teams in basketball.

Speaker 9 (02:02:34):
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Speaker 9 (02:05:53):
This is the Sean Salsbury Show, and Duick Myers could
be back here pretty soon. Scotty Scheffler went at the
BMW Championship fifteen under two strokes better than Robert McIntyre.

Speaker 10 (02:06:06):
And that doesn't tell one ounce of the story of
how good this fun it was. Oh my gosh, good weekend. Yeah,
he's pretty damn good that he is, and he's.

Speaker 5 (02:06:16):
Putting it together earnings wise.

Speaker 9 (02:06:17):
And you know, I was listening a little bit to
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe earlier before the
show that comes on before us. Don't listen to the
show before them that that one's a gold colossal waste
of time. But Brady Quinn bringing up just the career
earnings this year, that's Scotty Scheffler's thirty million and alone.
There's guys that could work two careers in this game

(02:06:40):
and not sniff that type of money.

Speaker 5 (02:06:41):
And it just keeps on it.

Speaker 10 (02:06:43):
And that was that's not even including what he made yesterday,
because they were talking about his earnings on the broadcast,
just through this FedEx bonus stuff that he gets before
they goes and has a chance the first place prize
gets ten million in Atlanta. Couple with that, it'll be
a thirty plus million dollar run with the FedEx part.
If he wins this, it'll be over thirty just for that,

(02:07:04):
the bonuses and the winning of the FedEx Cup. That's
not to count the other wins he's had on tour
this year or anything to do with what the name
on the bag and Nike and all their paid. There's
nobody dominating their job in sports better than this guy
is at his jobs. Listen, when Judge and Otani are

(02:07:26):
playing their best, let's just use those too. His example,
you can make an argue I mean, Otani's the most
unique player, but Judging gonna be far behind.

Speaker 13 (02:07:32):
Right.

Speaker 10 (02:07:32):
If Otani's having his B game, Judge's a games better
than Otani's big game.

Speaker 5 (02:07:36):
There's not that wide of a gap, right, no doubt.

Speaker 10 (02:07:39):
And we can do it in all sports, right, Joe Burrow,
Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen Jefferson and Chase Oh
they happen to both be for the same school. You
could do it in basketball, Oh, man shake Gilge is
Alexander is the best player in the world. Well, hold
my beer if you're Nikola Jokich or you get my point.

Speaker 9 (02:07:58):
Even when we had Brady and Manning and have some
people about Aaron Rodgers, about Drew Brees, Right, there's always
the Philip Rivers argument, not so much for help that's
running back in the league.

Speaker 10 (02:08:07):
Oh, Saquon Barkley, But sat Com McCaffrey was Saquon Barkley
before Sakuon Barkley last year with the versatility, right, So
you get it. Sure when I say he was the
best player in golf when he's got his A game,
what's the gap between him and as good as McElroy's who's.

Speaker 5 (02:08:21):
Winning well, Right, now it's Scotty I'm talking about right now.

Speaker 10 (02:08:24):
Yeah, the way they play right now, there's nobody that's
clearly put it this way. C game, he'll be on
the front page of the leader board.

Speaker 14 (02:08:33):
B game.

Speaker 5 (02:08:34):
He can still win a game.

Speaker 10 (02:08:36):
Everybody's playing for second place, and as well witnessed under
the most difficult circumstances, chips in from eighty to eighty
three feet on a on a chip, nobody can hit
on the toughest hole on the golf course.

Speaker 9 (02:08:47):
Yes, you can make the argument that he's doing what
people thought that Rory was supposed to do.

Speaker 10 (02:08:52):
Right, You could also make the argument and people are
gonna say it's it's not been over extended put of time.
But take Tiger's three best where he was like when
he went out out there and played his A game,
nobody could touch him. Scheffler over this last three years,
dude has been I'm not saying he's been over the
course of a career.

Speaker 5 (02:09:07):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 10 (02:09:08):
But if you didn't put a name by him or
the picture of their face said here's those three guys,
I'll bet you that the dominant were there, and all
the statistics and the way they play and how we
talk about him. If you didn't put it and he said, well,
match one with the other and you didn't know, you'd say, damn,
I can't. How am I going to choose between the two?
That's how dominant Tiger was for a long period of time.

(02:09:30):
But Scheffler. Tiger had twenty tournaments where he entered twenty
tournaments one year twenty in a row, was in the
top twenty, was on top twenty. Scheffler now is at
eighteen eight. He's been in eighteen tournaments this year and
he's finished the top twenty in all of them. In
like twelve or fifteen of them, he's finished in the
top ten. The guy is just when you're the best
iron player and he's not. He's improved his putting, but

(02:09:52):
you know what burns he's a better putter than he is.
I mean, there's a lot of his there's plenty of guys.
Yet when the money's on the table, there is no
better putter right And as far as driver, people hit
it farther. But when you need a shot hit in
the middle of the fairway at three ten, to hit
a small short iron into a green to win a tournament,
I'll take that guy all the time. So it's just

(02:10:12):
it's quite frankly, it's fascinating to watch. Plus now he's
an Adam Sandler guy. Oh yep, the Sandlor guy. He
love his family, he's got his priority straight.

Speaker 5 (02:10:20):
What's not like, Hey, buddy, I want to use you
in my next film? What about that? What about that?
That Scheffler guy? Yeah, use him.

Speaker 10 (02:10:28):
He didn't ask me, but you know what I'm saying,
that's how that's how Sandler would talk. But he is, uh,
Scottie Scheffler is is phenomenal. And if he has his
A game in Atlanta this week, nobody's such he's winning
the tournament. Now that we'll see if he has his
A game. But when he does, which is most of
the time, he's at least gonna be by on Sunday,

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you're gonna be saying, I wonder Scheffler looms, that's what
you're gonna be. He puts a golf club to a
golf ball. It's it's usually four strokes. He was in
second place by four strokes when the tournament started. By
the fifth hole, the tournament was tied and he never
looked back after.

Speaker 9 (02:11:03):
It's like yesterday, you know, went to lunch and walking
by one of the TV's the place we were at,
and they had the golf some of the guys were
watching it, and uh, I just saw who was at
the top of the leaderboard and I said, hm, shocking.

Speaker 5 (02:11:13):
Yeah, yeah, I bet you.

Speaker 10 (02:11:14):
And if you when you look at it, if it
was like on hole twelve, by the time he got
the whole eight teen, you knew that you were gonna
look at it again, and there was really very little
doubt that he was going to be the guy that
won the damn thing. It's it's incredible to watch man
for those of us who are obsessed about golf, I
am mesmerized by the way he hits a golf ball
every with mechanics that look well, the squares, the club,
but his footwork, You're like, dude, has he do it?

Speaker 5 (02:11:36):
It doesn't matter, he does it.

Speaker 9 (02:11:38):
I want to tie it back into the college football
conversation we were just having at the end of the
eight o'clock hour, because I think there are two things
that are going to absolutely boil Sean Salisbury's blood.

Speaker 5 (02:11:47):
So we will do that. He'll wait for this.

Speaker 9 (02:11:49):
Yeah, the Astros comparison to a local team, will do
those John on Northwest Side, see you right there? You
want to join John seven one three two one two
five seven ninety against seven one three two to five
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Speaker 5 (02:12:04):
This is this Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 13 (02:12:06):
Yes, yes, that's very nice.

Speaker 5 (02:12:09):
Now with that fresh leather scent on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 9 (02:12:17):
And if it expands one more time, this is already
going to be enacted. And the more that you do it,
the more this is going to be the case. Number one,
I understand the argument that people have about the regular season,
but then when it really comes down to the regular season, Sean,
does it matter. There's like a game or two that
you look at and you're like, oh, man, I got
to be in front of the TV for that. Other

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than that, it's LSU taking on Mississippi State. You're not
an LSU fan. You don't care. And don't even get
me started on the directional FCS schools that you have
coming to play for you, because you pretty much already
have a lot of those teams using load management for that.
But Sean, this gets enacted the thing that you love

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the most. You're gonna see load management not only those games,
some of the other ones Hey, you know what, what's
what's our matchup against these guys?

Speaker 10 (02:13:06):
Rest your star players? That's it more than once to listen,
we had it. I remember we played Utah State one year.
We were up forty something like forty for to nothing.

Speaker 9 (02:13:16):
It happened in some cases, don't even dress right right right,
he's got a little bit of an ankle.

Speaker 10 (02:13:19):
But who were playing at Tarleton. We're not playing them,
and that wasn't I hate to say it wouldn't know.
If you were hurt, you played, if you were injured,
you didn't. But then, but it's the player. I mean,
I'm not saying the tougher, it's the it's the way
we're doing it. I think a lot of players want
to play. But the way we've created with money and
all that stuff, it's different. And you can't tell me
it's the same.

Speaker 5 (02:13:40):
And I know you're not.

Speaker 1 (02:13:41):
Dan.

Speaker 10 (02:13:41):
You just can't tell me because at forty four to
nothing and going have to you couldn't come to it. Hey, Sean,
we're getting ready to play Utah State. You had that
high ankles frame or anybody else that was by Rodney
Pete or anybody.

Speaker 5 (02:13:53):
You're not playing for either? Is he right?

Speaker 10 (02:13:55):
But back then, was like, oh, I'm absolutely playing I
happened against Stanford. You know, I was playing against Lway
my sophomore year, week before. We had two weeks between
the game. It's national televised game. I'm going against them,
having a good year as a sophomore at the time,
leading the nation and passing right. Elway's mister l We're
going to play them at the farm on the farm

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high ankle sprain. Oh no, no, no, we're we have
two weeks by the time. Play taped it up and
spatted it and did it all. But I wasn't missing that.
It's not a matter of patter on the back, but
it was just I didn't have the option and we're
you know, it was Stanford.

Speaker 5 (02:14:26):
At the time.

Speaker 10 (02:14:26):
At SC we were better than Stanford most of the time,
right with Yeah, did you see lay or did you
see the teeth?

Speaker 5 (02:14:33):
First?

Speaker 1 (02:14:34):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (02:14:35):
Well Elway, but uh John that has a big teeth. Yeah,
it was a guy's named John and huge teeth. Candelaria
about as good as his talent too, biggest, I mean
a monster town. But I didn't want to miss it
because it was him, even though we were always favored,
but yet there was the lway men, we never know

(02:14:56):
pull off the spectacular, right, So I'm just saying that
it's changed. I don't want load management college football, dude,
it sends the wrong message. But you're right, you're undefeated,
You're getting ready to play a team you're forty point.

Speaker 5 (02:15:06):
Favorites by why would you play your guy?

Speaker 9 (02:15:09):
It's gonna get even worse, Sean, because here's the second part,
and the nil. I got to protect the money, the
investment the players also getting. And it's not just the
way they're doing it, Dan. The player may come to
you say, you know, I'm not feeling well today because.

Speaker 5 (02:15:21):
I'm playing it. I don't want to.

Speaker 10 (02:15:22):
It's like playing in the bowl game that they're now
missing so they don't get interrupt their NFL stuff. That's
where it gets worse. But it's before bowl season. Don't
make me go crazy, dude, I'm trying to temper my
anger at this. Well, it should be for those kids. No,
it's not just it's hard. It's sorry to tell college
people this, or fans or listeners or people on social media.

(02:15:44):
It's not just about the kid Championship players, right, it's
championship weekend. You're undefeated, Hey, it's undefeated Georgia against undefeated Alabama?
Why would you play your players? Who cares? You're you're
going to be one of the top seeds as is right?

Speaker 5 (02:16:00):
Who cares?

Speaker 10 (02:16:01):
Especially if they are you playing your sixteen teams and
you're gonna draw the fifteenth team or the sixteenth team
or one or two. Here's here's what here's what they
should tell you. Why am I going to play my
guys because it's Georgia and it's Alabama and we're gonna
go battle, test it and get ready. But then here's
what that basically what the setup is telling you.

Speaker 5 (02:16:20):
Why would I? Why would I? We lose? They first
of all, we win at the expense of what if
we get beat We're still in a.

Speaker 9 (02:16:27):
Playfor you can win, but your top receiver turns in ankle,
And now they're so, congratulations, you won in your SEC champs.

Speaker 5 (02:16:34):
That's awesome, But it doesn't mean what he used to.
What do they always say? Hard to beat a team
two times in a row?

Speaker 11 (02:16:39):
Right?

Speaker 9 (02:16:39):
These conferences now are getting to the point where they
almost don't even want to play The coaches. The conferences
itself says, well, now, wait a minute, we got contracts
with Atlanta, Charlotte, all of these other cities, Like, yeah,
we're playing that game, right, but you show up, you play.

Speaker 10 (02:16:53):
But if you know, say listen, I don't want to
give them any advantage to see our game plans and
stuff against them. So listen, we're going to see them
again in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (02:17:00):
Got in here. What's the big deal. We're undefeated, man,
we're one long.

Speaker 10 (02:17:03):
We're getting the second through the fourth seed anyway, and
if we get the first seed, what's the difference between
number sixteen and number fifteen. We're two playing fifteen, one
playing sixteen. At the expense of the risk factor or
my kids feeling physically beat up because George is physical.
Here's what we'll do. We'll suit you up. We'll play
a couple series like we will treat this preseason game. Yeah,

(02:17:24):
preseason game.

Speaker 1 (02:17:25):
No, you know what it is.

Speaker 9 (02:17:26):
It's week eighteen in the NFL and you've got the
division clinched, we're locked into the divisional round.

Speaker 10 (02:17:31):
We've got to buy whatever it is. But we still
want to get a little rhythm because we don't want
two weeks off from our guys being in competitive football.
So we'll we'll give them a We'll hand it off
a few times. Quarterback, you're gonna throw a couple of times.
We'll a couple series and get you out, all right, David,
get a ball, start tossing.

Speaker 5 (02:17:45):
That's what it'll be like. That's what it is.

Speaker 10 (02:17:46):
Well, we're three quarters of the way there with the
way we pay our players anyway. Yeah, and I I
mean it's you know, I'm talking about college and the
high school and why guys are transferring and do all that.
Why the hell wouldn't you protect your investment now by
saying what do I have to now? Old school would say,
what are you talking about? It's Alabama versus Auburn. And

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but and the players should want that. You get my point, Dan,
But we've created it for the players to say, Okay,
we get it. So when we say when people say,
it's a vehicle to get to that's what I say.
Vehicle to make as much money as possible. And what
we've done is players that may have created was gone
in tough. You come out and say, well it's soft,
and how often I want to Like I said, twenty
years ago, you'd never had a guy sit out a

(02:18:28):
Bowl game, no matter who you were playing. Then it said, well,
I don't want to wreck my NFL career. Well, I'm
getting prepared. I want him to see me on tape
one more time. Oh, you're gonna be the first pick
of the draft. Why play? I'm telling you what is
going to happen. You're going to get to the point
that somebody's going to sit out a playoff game. You
think I'm kidding somebody that if he feels a little uncomfortable,
is going to saw Jackson Smith and jigbas sit out

(02:18:50):
a playoff game in college football because he did not
want to. Yes, but I'm talking's or a quarter he's
just going to say, you know what, my people, that
my my ni, all the people that that are consulting
with me.

Speaker 5 (02:19:02):
And said, you're the first pick of the draft. What's
more important to you winning this?

Speaker 10 (02:19:06):
Well, if we have a quarterback who's been an MVP
in the league but said that the MVP is more
important in than winning the Super Bowl, Cam Newton, then
what's going to stop a college guy from saying being
the first pick of the draft is far more important
to me, or being a top five pick is far
more important to me to get ready for the NFL
than it is for me to win a playoff game.
You think that's not coming. If your question now, that

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will never happen. We said a lot of nevers. Did
you expect that a seventh grader was going to have
to hire an agent? Did you expect that a high
school senior was going to make more because during the
recruiting process, then the coach that's going to coach him
in his quarterback room in college. Did you expect that
you now have to pay a guy at times to

(02:19:49):
put you on that recruiting visit. We're going to give
you a bonus for making sure you visit our school
so then we can roll out the red carpet for you. Well,
we got it all backwards. He dude, I don't care
anybody says this nil is. It's good if it's done right,
because the kids should get paid the right way. It's
not good the way we're doing it. This is and
every there's very few people, David Pollack when I interviewed

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HM last week that think that the way we're doing
it is a good way.

Speaker 5 (02:20:14):
It is good. The thought process is right. Not this way.
It's just not all that's for the kid. The kids.

Speaker 10 (02:20:19):
No, it's not just for the kid. It's for the university,
it's for his teammates, it's not just for the kid. Well,
if that's it, go play an individual sport and get
the hell out of my way.

Speaker 9 (02:20:27):
Well, I mean it's it's the system the way that
it was before, name, image and likeness. Anybody with a
functioning brain in their head new this is exploit of
it's not good.

Speaker 10 (02:20:36):
We got at both extremes. Dan, that was extreme. That's
this extremely seated.

Speaker 9 (02:20:40):
Basically, it's like it's like throwing a coup ata in
a country and then being like, all right, hey, what's next.
Oh well guess I guess we didn't really think about
that because you had for the longest time the people
yelling pay the players, pay the players. And then it
was the rational one Sean who were saying, Okay, how
do you do it? Like what's your plan? Yeah, And
we listened to the first group right there. That's why

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we're in the situation we're in because there's no guardrails
to it, and it's just basically, hey, you know, you
can't pay that guy five million, Like, hell I can't.

Speaker 10 (02:21:08):
I'm doing it, and I'm gonna upgrad. We gotta call
anil because I may have to pay him more so
he doesn't transfer after these freshmen of the year in
the country and as a Heisman candidate. But he wants
to leave because somebody's popped in and said they're going
to give him two and a half three million more
and il Tennessee and UCLA and he didn't even get
paid more and you left.

Speaker 5 (02:21:26):
Did you see that? Hypold had to deal with it
again a mother.

Speaker 10 (02:21:31):
Now, I did not see the story, and I'm glad,
but I'd love you to tell me real quick. Called
him up, Yeah, called him up. Wants more money, playing time,
all that kind of stuff. Yeah, this isn't Pop Warner
youth football where the parents come out of the stands
and are mad because their kid's not pitching every time,
or in football not playing quarterback because the guy in

(02:21:52):
front of him is better, but he should be playing more.

Speaker 5 (02:21:55):
So we're there now, so that's what we're doing. Okay.

Speaker 9 (02:21:58):
You should also to from somebody that I know that
has dealings, you know, representing players with name, image and likeness.
He goes, it's amazing the contracts that these guys sign,
where it's like a threshold to make this much money.
And he'll tell is you know, because the players will
come to him. Well, hey, you know, man, I'm getting
three hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, but it says if you
play sixty five percent of the snaps. Guess who controls

(02:22:21):
if you play sixty five percent of the snaps? The
people who'd be paying you that money. That's exactly right.

Speaker 13 (02:22:26):
Now.

Speaker 10 (02:22:26):
Think about this too. Some will have to deal with
and it's going to be a huge topic. You got
Brian Kelly's driving down the street talking to Trace Armstrong's agent,
calling my agent about somebody else, somebody else.

Speaker 5 (02:22:39):
Here's the deal?

Speaker 10 (02:22:40):
Now, where does think about the age that Trace Armstrong,
who's a very good form of player.

Speaker 5 (02:22:43):
Sure.

Speaker 10 (02:22:43):
Yeah, so you represent Brian Kelly. Let's say you represent
Dablosweeney as well. I'm just just saying it for the
hell of it. And let's say you got that player
on your campus that is at your school and you
don't want it to transfer, or he's at the other
school and he wants transfer to you, and your agent's
representing you the coach the other coach, and now these

(02:23:08):
guys are hiring age and he's representing the player.

Speaker 9 (02:23:10):
I mean, you've already got coaches talking about their zoom
calls and then they're like, well, wait a.

Speaker 10 (02:23:15):
Minute, those are some of my players, right, And so
all of a sudden, what's the agent tell you? Well,
the player wants to go get more and guess who
gets a cut of all three?

Speaker 5 (02:23:23):
The agent does.

Speaker 10 (02:23:24):
So we're going to get to the point now where
the agent represents the player and he also represents the
coaches that you're trying to prevent one side from leaving
the transfer portal. You're trying to prevent the other side
to go into the transfer portal because they're offering you
three million more, which means you're going to get your
six to ten percent as the agent, and you're trying. Dude,
we're the conflict of interest. This is going to be
a bad thing. I'm just telling you because there's a

(02:23:46):
lot of there's a handful of agents that represent in
the coaching business that represents five percent or eight percent
of the guys represent ninety percent of these coaches.

Speaker 9 (02:23:54):
There's a lot of eating at the same buffet. There's
a reason why buffets were shut down during COVID.

Speaker 10 (02:24:00):
What the conflict of interest, Well, I represent these two coaches.
He wants to leave LSU to go to Southern cal
Let's just say, hey, Lincoln, I got a guy once. Come,
you got three extra million bucks? Oh yeah, we can
get it's Oh I saw him as a freshman, great player.

Speaker 5 (02:24:13):
Yeah, hey Anenburg, you got some money. He got money.
Hey Brian, Lincoln wants it.

Speaker 10 (02:24:17):
Well, you represent me and you represent well wait a minute,
but you also represent the player.

Speaker 5 (02:24:21):
Well, I like to keep me here.

Speaker 10 (02:24:21):
Well, Lincoln's already telling us that he's going to give
him three more million dollars. What do you see how
that works at all? That's not gonna have your ass.
It's already happening. Just go look it up the little
sec documentary they have on on Netflix. We got it,
We got it all backwards here. College football will never
be what you used to think it was. It never
will be that way again.

Speaker 9 (02:24:40):
It's gonna be hard to rain this thing in because
you know, you start telling people, well, you can't make
as much money as you used to, and they saying like,
hell I can't.

Speaker 10 (02:24:47):
Once you've opened the flood gates, closing them again, it's
a lot harder than doing it before the flood hits.

Speaker 9 (02:24:52):
And the flood has hit in college football, and then
it's the cleanup after that John on the northwest side.
As we get back into the Astros conversation, you'll be first,
you want to be second, third, fourth, fifth, hell even sixth.

Speaker 5 (02:25:03):
It's all there for you.

Speaker 9 (02:25:04):
Seven one three, two one two five seven ninety Because
finally pay it off about the comparison between the hometown
baseball club and a local team. I think it's pretty striking.
We'll talk about it here Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 10 (02:25:16):
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Do you know that banks are extending loans out now
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Twenty percent of auto loans now are for seven years.
I don't I don't want to be into that. So

(02:25:37):
what we we're looking for a solution, and we know
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Speaker 13 (02:25:53):
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Speaker 9 (02:27:21):
Continued someone three two, one, two, five, seven ninety is
the number to get in. Larry and Stafford not going
to keep you waiting long, But I did just want
to throw this out pretty quick because I was thinking
about again we were talking about a little earlier at
the Astros lineup. You know, they are Sean, they're the
Rockets offense. Last year, like remember the Rockets, it was
not a very good three point shooting team. But then

(02:27:43):
one night, oh how about that, Dylan Brooks made about
six or seven of them.

Speaker 5 (02:27:46):
That's awesome.

Speaker 9 (02:27:47):
It wasn't sustainable like where it's not only that where
you didn't have a primary score. Now I think that's
alleviated because you get number seven on the floor, well,
then number seven is probably gonna be the guy putting
up high twenties all out of bed and give you
twenty five.

Speaker 5 (02:28:01):
There you go.

Speaker 9 (02:28:01):
So, I mean that's what you're getting out of Kevin Durant.
But I mean that's what it was is. You know,
it was the old QTZ saying of a sometimes it's me,
sometimes it's you. That's nice, but then what did we
see in a seven game series against Golden State?

Speaker 5 (02:28:15):
It's not going to win it for you.

Speaker 9 (02:28:16):
It's the same deal here with the Astros, where you've
got a bunch of guys that are really good players
and good hitters, but they're not good enough to be
able to If they're not pretty much in locked lockstep
working together, then it's not going.

Speaker 5 (02:28:30):
To be a good time for your offense. And when
we say that, it's not overall, it's this year.

Speaker 10 (02:28:35):
This has been every every season this year they have
not They have had a and you know it was
part of last year too, Dan it hit him last
year where they scoring runners in scoring position and leaving
runners on base happened often. It's been a it's carried
over there. I wouldn't think going into the plass right now.
A lot of teams, right they know that Korea can
damage you and that the clutch gene seems to rise

(02:28:58):
with this team. The closer the plays, and as the
closer they get to a World Series, they seem to elevate.
There's no doubt. And they're as resilient as it gets.
But let's just call like we say they're an average
hitting team, they're not an average when it comes to power.
The power cogs not exactly there on a regular basis.

Speaker 9 (02:29:14):
Let's just say you get a healthy yord On, right,
So a healthy yord On which this late in the
game seems like it's going to be tough.

Speaker 5 (02:29:20):
Right, they play small ball when they don't want to
play small ball?

Speaker 10 (02:29:22):
Does that make sense? Oh you saw how well that
worked the other night? Right, without even but I'm not
even talking about the bunting part. I'm just talking about single, single, single,
saying the clutch yet the potential is there, but potential
gets people fire.

Speaker 5 (02:29:33):
I'm introduction. I mentioned that the other night.

Speaker 9 (02:29:35):
For the people who you know, whenever you use batting average,
it's the old you know, it's you know, whenever I
say it's a business, you tell me it's a game.
Whenever I tell you it's a game, play business, right,
I mean that the other night. Oh well, they got
eight hits. Okay, how many of those were for extra bases?
I just held up the number one one of them, right, listen.
I believed to go to a review to make sure
that it was a home run.

Speaker 5 (02:29:56):
I believe in it.

Speaker 10 (02:29:56):
But I believe they're gonna have to win games that
are tight. I don't think this is an offense that
goes end of the postseason. If you had experts rank
I'm going into the postseason as we sit now, take
the teams that are in the playoffs. Now put in
in the playoffs, they are gonna be below the mid range.
You're they're gonna get more of higher grade hitting because
of the people, the altoves and craze what you've seen
in the past postseason. But if you're going by an
overall body of work from one to night of healthy players,

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this is an average hitting.

Speaker 5 (02:30:20):
Baseball team this year twenty nineteen, it is not. That
is for sure, all right, Larry.

Speaker 9 (02:30:24):
I want to give you as much time as possible,
so I gonna give you a chance coming up here
in also ponders you right there working in seven one
three two one two five seven ninety against someone three
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Speaker 2 (02:30:38):
The celebration start more Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (02:30:46):
Larry and Stafford. Good morning, Larry.

Speaker 11 (02:30:48):
What's going on Bulldogs? Sean, how y'all doing on this
beautiful Monday morning?

Speaker 15 (02:30:52):
Mate?

Speaker 5 (02:30:53):
Oh you're hearing it, man, Things are good.

Speaker 11 (02:30:56):
Hey man, that's good. I'm glad to hear that.

Speaker 8 (02:30:57):
Man.

Speaker 11 (02:30:57):
Hey, look, let's get into it. The Houston Astro should
not be losing games twelve to zero or fifteen to one,
or using Chas McCormick to pitch. This is the first
time in a couple of years that I have had
zero confidence in the Astros bullpen.

Speaker 1 (02:31:16):
A spoter.

Speaker 11 (02:31:16):
Better get that figured out, man, because him bringing in
Duban and Sosa and all these other dudes that ain't
gonna work trying to get you to a championship. Man,
they better figure out exactly how they can get some
dudes in that bullpen that can get us to the
dudes that are gonna get us some outs and to
bring you and hater man, because watching this kind of stuff, man,

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with that lineup over there is too inconsistent for me,
especially when you got dudes that really want to win
the Championship. I just wanted to say that about the
strolls real quick. Let me get this in. Also, big
shout out to the Houston Texas and Nick Casserio and
Damico Ryans for the solid they did John Metsi Man,
Because they sent John Mitchell to a squad that has

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two of his boys that he played with and Zalen
Hurts and Smith over at the wide receiver that is
going to make sure that he can simulate into that
locker room over there seamlessly and become a part of
that franchise over there. And that just goes to show
you how far you can go as a franchise when
you start doing things in the best instance of the players,

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because they could have sent Metsi anywhere or could have
cut him or whatever, but they sent him somewhere where
he got a chance to go and make a difference
and be a fact over there, because it was gonna
be hard for him to make the squad here because
we got some dogs in that wide receiver room, man,
And it just was a good thing to see man
and maybe that his time in Houston was for him
to be in one of the best cities in the

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world with the best medical center in the world that
can help him get through that issue that he was
in and now he could go on about his life
and go and become the kind of football player that
we know he is. And we saw them boys play
over there on Saturday, Son, and I can tell you
without a doubt, that was a super Bowl looking team
over there on Saturday, with that defense and that all

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that was able to go down and play against another
team and put points on the board and shut them
boards out like that. The NFL better beware, man, because
I can tell you real quick, we got a quarterback
and we got a defense, and that's what you need
in the natural the football league. Last thing before I
let you go.

Speaker 5 (02:33:16):
Sean Nil.

Speaker 11 (02:33:19):
So when my mom dropped me off at in college,
she sat me on the curb and we talked for
a little bit and she said, look, baby, you know
I don't have a whole lot of money, but here's
twenty dollars that it gets you through this week.

Speaker 5 (02:33:33):
Or this month.

Speaker 11 (02:33:34):
You got a meal ticket and you got a roof
over your head. You make sure that you go over
there and you let the coach know that you are
here and that you come to play. And he gonna
make sure he take care of you. This nil thing shun.
You said you can't. Once you open the floodgates and
you can't close it, I'll be damn. I turned that
damn falset off right now. It mat till they figure

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this thing out, man, because now it's starting to get
to the point where you have no loyalty and you're
ruining sports. And I'm a big proponent of people getting money,
but it can't be something so careless that you take
away what the value of the education and loyalty to
those programs is. It is silly as it can be.
And I'm not a fan of how they're going about it,

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because if you're going to do this, you might as
well just take the amateur tag away from them. It
just make them a franchise, I mean, a farm scene
for these sports league. It's stupid, man, I turn that
falset off and make all their ass. He had hurt
in a hall.

Speaker 9 (02:34:31):
I appreciate Larryry good to see you last week. Yeah
he measured Larry about that. Well, you know what he've
ever gotten measured Larry and Stafford. I'll he spot on
because with the ni l that you can't money get
Getting paid is great, but not at the expense of
ruining who's paying you. But it's the adults in the

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room have are fairly clueless and all this, and they've
opened up the floodgates.

Speaker 5 (02:34:56):
And I'm with him. I'd shut the water off right now.
The problem is you can't.

Speaker 9 (02:35:00):
Well, here's the thing that the first one through the
wall would be the bloodiest, because then you start doing that,
that word gets out, Oh hey, they don't want to
pay you over there. Oh you're cutting off opportunities right,
although there's no doubt the fore players then, But he's right.

Speaker 5 (02:35:13):
He showed up.

Speaker 10 (02:35:13):
I can remember as a sky you know, going and
my parents didn't have much either, and trying to get
you know, twenty bucks and l Larry's not Joe. That
was for me twenty bikes like okay, I can get
a pizza this week. You your training table and all that,
But it was the ability to compete. Now, listen, it's
a fantasy world that we're going to ever get that back.

Speaker 5 (02:35:31):
We're not. I get it.

Speaker 10 (02:35:32):
But what we've done is we've taken kids who may
have grown up in competitive and ready to do it,
and we've softened it and made it so red carpet
that they don't know how to deal with adversity. They
don't know how to deal with losing their job the
second week of training camp, practice and getting it back
the third week. I'm not saying everybody, it's not an
umbrella statement, but you get my point. And with this money,
we've created this to the point where loyal we used

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to say this about pro sports. You're to the point
now where I have to double check is.

Speaker 5 (02:36:01):
That guy still in Oregon? Is that guy still that
all the time? Is that guy still our defensive tackles?

Speaker 9 (02:36:06):
Mentioned a quarterback from somewhere and I'll be like, oh, yeah,
you know he's starting to share right, No, now he's
at lowel of right.

Speaker 5 (02:36:12):
It's craziness. So I get it. So he's one hundred
percent right.

Speaker 10 (02:36:15):
You've got to get this under control because the greatest
to me, Saturdays are so I love him, but you're
getting to a point where Saturdays are becoming so business
and so pro like. They're not amateurs already, Larry hit it,
They're not anymore. So we've taken someway. You got to
shut it off because it's going to get worse before
it gets better. It already is. And the NFL stuff.

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I've said this, dude, I think the Texans defense and
Larry hit it. Of all the conversation we can have,
they've got two things you absolutely have to have to
win a super Bowl. A guy under center and a
defense that get gets stops and is physical and nasty
and turns you over and is relentless and you keep
They're just those two things. Now the rest comes together.

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You've got to have a lot of things. It's starts
there and with the coach who gets it. And they've
got those three things, two things. The coach who gets
it as part of the reason they got these two things.
Now it's the only thing that's going to stop them
in this division is being injured and an offensive line
that must elevate their play from last year to this year.

Speaker 5 (02:37:16):
You just said it.

Speaker 9 (02:37:17):
It's the it's the center and the other four guys
that are in front of that guy under center.

Speaker 5 (02:37:21):
Ponder wants to weigh in.

Speaker 17 (02:37:22):
Ponder, Hey man, Yeah, Hey, good call from Larry. He
kind of stole some of my thunder on the Astros.
But that was that was my point with the inconsistency. Uh,
you know, we were all excited and and waiting for
some of these players the arms to come back, specifically
Eric Getty Christian Vierra, to give us some relief on

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that starting lineup or the starting rotation. But the two
points I want to hear you guys talk about it
is I'm not not confident in the in the batting lineup. Yes,
Avin jordan comeback is great, but he's nowhere near mid
season form. So what are you going to get out
out of a certain amount of time. The main thing

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is this is a huge, huge, huge series we're about
to play because we really need to get into one
of those pop spots. I think we're what four games
out behind Detroit and behind uh whoever the other two
teams that are that are that are beating up divisionally.

Speaker 9 (02:38:24):
So yeah, ponder, I don't I don't mean that. I
don't mean to cut you because I mean I do
want to squeeze in Howard. I'm sorry, but no, I
mean it's it's a huge series and you've been able.

Speaker 5 (02:38:34):
To spot on.

Speaker 10 (02:38:35):
Yeah, they've the inconsistent season about the getting you you
shouldn't be getting up twelve runs and then scoring one,
and the being good and then scoring give it up.

Speaker 13 (02:38:43):
Nine.

Speaker 5 (02:38:43):
It's just too inconsistent. How are you got like thirty seconds?

Speaker 13 (02:38:47):
Okay, have at it?

Speaker 5 (02:38:49):
Well, now you got twenty five?

Speaker 14 (02:38:52):
Okay.

Speaker 18 (02:38:53):
Hey, I just wanted to say that I love my
asscros I was it was pathetic last night. But I
have renamed Chas McCormick from the chas Manian Devil to
BS for blind squirrel, And unfortunately, it seems like we've
got a lot of blind squirrels looking for a nut
to hit. And you're not gonna win any games if
you don't score runs.

Speaker 10 (02:39:11):
Yeah, good, I appreciate it. Listen, we know they got
the potential, but you've got to find a way. They've
got to bring the inconsistency closer with the meet in
the middle, because consistency right now is more more impressive
than spectacular. Once in a while, that'll get you more wins.
You'd like to have that middle ground going to be
tested tonight.

Speaker 9 (02:39:27):
Yeah, less of the hills and valleys from that group,
and that seems like we've gotten a lot of those.
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