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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Two to one lead for the A's.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Here's the pitch and it's a ground ball through the
right side base hit. They're gonna send Walker. Could be
a play a bottle for a second, and is say
the bottle costs Butler. Walker scores on a quick slide.
An RBI for Cave Smith and we're tired.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Here's the two two langladers swaying in a mess, struck
him out on a breaking ball. Twelve strikeouts for Lacema
Colors Junior, and we head to the bottom of the six.
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Breaking pitch is belt at the center field, Clark going
back on it, still drifting, and it's gone for time.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Dessentzo does it. His second home run of the year.
Is three to three.
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That was a crack.
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Three to three ball games Sterner out of the stretch.
First pitch is laced up the.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Metal baseet Payneli score.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
They'll send Perettes.
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Along, throw in not a time.
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Five to three astros keratinis.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Wasting no time.
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Two RBIs Cartini does it again.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Hater delivers playing and a mess struck him out on
the slider and that is the ballgame.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Thank Houston.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Astros take both games from the A's winning this afternoon
five to three. Astros when they're fourth in a row
and have won five of.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Their last six.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Robert and Steve telling you all you needed to know
about yesterday afternoon's Astros game right here on Sports Talk
seven ninety KBM E Houston and iHeartRadio station. And with
that we say away we go here on the Sean
Salisbury Show, and good morning to all of you. Sean,
We'll start first with Lance mccullors. I mean, we had
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expectations of hopefully get through five yesterday and I thought
after he gave up that home run to Jacob Wilson
that was going to be the end of his day.
But Jo Aspottas said, nine, I'm sending them back out
there for the sixth.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Kind of eerie.
Speaker 7 (02:31):
How we had the conversation yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
If he's in there going well at five but they
had a little hiccup, then when would Lance mccullors, when
would we know when he was going to get to six?
And how could you count? I mean or as is
four and two thirds five innings, which you're going to
get from him. Well, the trust factor one hundred plus pitches,
gets through six strikes out twelve, controlled the strikes on
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his zone amazingly, now like you put on seven people
with walks.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
He was extremely impressive. And if you get.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
That, especially in the news of what we heard from
Blanco yesterday, which we'll get to, it was that was
masterful by him. Now that guy, that guy was okay,
then worth the wait, the two years worth. I mean,
he was sharp, focused and did his thing. And we
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talked yesterday about he'll get swing and miss and he'll
get strikeouts, but double digits. Now that walked that strike
out the walk ratios, and that's impressive. And they needed
his performance yesterday, a little back and forth and you know,
they hung around. I just I was really it was
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impressive and light of all because I'll be honest with
you when when I when going into the season, the
word count on wasn't at the top of my Bengo card.
It just wasn't. It wasn't part of it. When it
came to to Lance's not that I didn't think he
could pitch, don't misunderstanding that I didn't think I could
count on him to be that guy this year.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I don't know if this is going to continue, but
when you see something like that, you know he's got
it in him. And the fact that Joe trusted him
to run him out there again, to bring him out
in the sixth inning. It was an impressive start for
the Colors and that had to be. It was almost
as if he knew after the news, Okay, I got
to ramp my game up, and boy did he that.
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Lance mc colors is exactly why you're patient for a
couple of years and waiting for him to get right.
It was needed. I'm sure confidence now is through the roof.
Now let's see how he feels going into his next
start after one hundred plus pitches and if the recovery
and everything's fine. That guy there is why he got
paid as well when he did. So. Those are in
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lights and bad news yesterday for Blanco. This was a
great news for the Astros and lancemic colors, no.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Doubt about It's you mentioned the walks, only one from him,
only three altogether of the four pictures that you used
yesterday in the game, and it's fair for you too
to bring up what you said about you being able
to count on him, because I mean, Sean, let's be
honest here, there's a pattern, there's a history, there's all
of those things when it comes to Lance mccullors.
Speaker 8 (05:18):
That.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
I mean, you even heard Joe Spotus say yesterday he
hadn't thrown six innings in a while. Now we have
to see how he reacts after this one.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yep, I've told you since he since he came back,
and I even I think had mentioned it to either
Steve Sparks or Joe I mean Dana Brown anyway on
one of our interviews that Okay, I'm not so concerned
about the start when he made his first start, Okay,
I want to see how he responds.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
I was armed response to the result and all that.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Obviously you want a good result, but they get him
out there was important on the first on his first start,
So I was like, okay, let's see what was on
the second one. The second one I don't think was
very good. Okay, So then you get to as he
rolls along it was a second or the third one
where it was a struggle a big time, and so
you didn't see Irakai. I mean you're like, well, what's
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going on? Well, now gets the six innings, one hundred
plus pitches, how will he respond? So for me, it's
how the arm, because the ability is there. We know
he gets people out, we know what kind of we
know what kind of stuff he's got. So it's the
recovery time and the injury situation and his confidence gets
it starts to grow, and his command of the strike
zone in twelve to one, strike out the walk, Ray SiO,
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You'll win a lot of games that way, and had
some help from his sitting friends at the right time yesterday.
Impressive performance. And I don't think that, like you said,
I don't think it was a negative. He said, Well,
I don't know if I can count on Lansma colors
even going in because you still tread lightly saying okay,
are we going to get another one? Where about every
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third time he's supposed to start, they got to push
him back because he's and understandably so with an injury,
you know, with his injury history. So he's got to
be waking up today feeling really good man about what
he was about. The key is next week, how's the
arm feel? And if he goes out there and can
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pump up close to one hundred pitches and give you
five or six innings again. Then then right now, I
can guarantee you the city's probably waking up when they
are like, damn, is this the Lansma Colors we're going
to get where? Or is it somewhere in between, you know,
the four inning, three inning guy and this guy, or
is this who you're going to get. You're not going
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to get twelve strikeouts on every five or six days,
of course, but he was impressive man, And you could
say naked eye. I can tell you all you need
to know, but experts inside of watching the way he
worked yesterday would probably even dive a lot deeper. But
it was. It was much needed and I am sure
emotional for him from death from you know, all the injuries,
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to the death threats, to the emotion that goes with it.
I mean, and now you have to count on him.
It's no longer I hope I can count on him.
Blanco out Raghetti, you know throwing the ball. Was Nesky
out for the season. That's two of the two of
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your five original starters or or are done for the year.
Another one is working his way back. And the guy
now that you're counting on has been out for two years.
But now it's no longer I hope I can count
of last because you have to count on him. He
has to perform, he has to start, and he has
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to post every fifth, every time it's his turn, whether
you're going through five or six starters, and he did yesterday.
So in order for them to get he doesn't have
the he don't have a choice. I mean, team really,
I mean, where are you going? I mean, what are
you going to do? He has to you have to
get stuff out of him, and you have to get
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I mean, you'd love to be something near that on
a regular basis, which will be tough to do. But
I was impressed. And so it's no longer a hope thing.
It's a Blanco's out now west Nesky's out. That's two
guys in the last what two weeks where it's like,
damn out for the season. What do we do? And
that's two fists of your starting rotation. The three fists
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is distill out and now I need you, And so
counting on him is a must, not just an option.
And he pitched like he pitched like there was urgency
yesterday and to be impressive and to show his team
that they can count on him. And the fact that
Joe ran him back out there tells you a lot,
as he was approaching one hundred pitches.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Yeah, lance had that second outing is when he gave
up the seven earned run radio the Reds and did
not get out of the first inning, as matter of fact,
only got one single solitary out. But since then, Sean
has thrown over fourteen innings and giving up a combined
at five earned runs during that time, and yesterday two
of those from Jacob Wilson, but still.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Not walking people.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Dan He's pretty good man, and he and his command
of the strike zone and throwing it at the right
spot was staying ahead in the count. Impressive. That's how
he gets twelve strikeouts. We've always know he can get
swing and miss and and incite some walks back to
the dugout, but he's now that the count on him
as a must if they're going where they want to go.
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Lancelack Colors is going to have to be one hell
of a third starter for.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Sure, and we'll talk about that a little bit more
here in a second. But one other thing you mentioned
the timely hitting, and I mean we've said it. I've
said it, and you know, wondered aloud if this team
can be able to carry itself, sustain itself with the bats.
But I've also said before you did enough. I would
say yesterday was in between there because the timely hitting.
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You get the home run to tie it up by
Zach Desenzo, and then you get Victor Carrattini coming through
with the two run single.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
The guy's a stud, Karatine's clutch man. I think we're
pretty lucky. Is there a better backup clutch player a
catcher in the league. Is there a better more versatile Yeah,
just a clutch the guy who can hit, who can
play a couple of positions for you, leaders can call
a game. Considering he's not yours, he should be starting
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on a handful of teams in this league. I think
he's that good. And he is. He is such an
unheralded bonus for this team. He just finds he's done
it since he's been here. Some clutch hitting. Oh, I
need you to go play first, Oh I need you
to catch, okay, And he does it without a whole
lot of fan fair He just keeps doing it. But
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he's delivered time and time again. And lucky to have
him because I can guarant ask to you there's a
bunch of places that guy'd be playing one hundred and
forty five games and we're fortunate or whatever to have
him here. But yeah, one thing that has been missing
the last year in fifty five games has been the
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timely hitting you're talking about. Not that they don't have it,
but one of the biggest complaints the last year in
fifty five games has been their ability to get runners
across timely hitting with runners in scoring position or the
timely home run. When the Asshs are at their best,
that's always been a part of their m it has
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not been a part of their mo They've had to
struggle for us to ay because most of the struggles
have come with what's wrong with them with guys when
you got runners in scoring position, left on base and that.
But if you can solve that taking care of your
business at home, which they're doing a great job of,
birdie the par fives, which they did in this series,
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and get Lance mc colors going like that, the timely
hitting will be important as well. The health of the
starting pitching but they got it yesterday. The hitting's fine
and dandy, but it's like that team. I'm not talking
about the Astros, but you know the guy who hits
forty five home runs during the year, and thirty of
them are solo jobs when you're down five to one.
Sure that the Astros don't live that that way. They
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never have. But the timely hitting has been part of
their mo during these alcs's and World Series runs and
it's been a bit missing. But if you can start
to get that and get the timely hitting and sometimes
from people you may not expect it from.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
De Zenzo's home run.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I mean, we started to expect it from Karatini, but
guys who have come through that aren't the ones we
are always talking about. That's a good thing, but there
was no bigger highlight in the game than Lance mcculor's performance,
not even close.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
For sure, as the Astro is able to win it, yes,
say five to three. Even better news that Mariners lose
last night, so you're now half a game behind at
Seattle for first place in the AOS, says. The Tampa
Bay Rays will come into town to fire up a
four game homestand this weekend also to last night, the
Thunder moving on to the NBA Finals and five games
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over the Timberwolves. The Pacers trying to close out the
Knicks tonight New York for Game five of that series.
They are up three to one there. But we'll continue
the Astros conversation because with the things we were talking
about with Lance McCullers, now, Sean, I think it's a
race to two for the Astros, and we'll break that
down right here as we're just getting going here on
a Thursday edition of The Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
Let's go.
Speaker 10 (14:33):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
You mentioned this last night on Twitter, and I don't
think that there's any doubt that we need to address
this because especially with the news that we found out
twofold yesterday, when it comes to the Astros with a
couple of different guys, first with Renelle Blancos So, we
had the conversation with Dana Brown, Astros GM who joins
us every single week nine thirty, and we wrapped it
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up probably about nine well yesterday, just after ten twenty,
a press release comes out for the Astros right hand
to pitcher Renel Blanco gonna undergo right elbow surgery next week,
gonna sideline him for the remainder of the twenty twenty
five season. He's anticipated to return during the twenty twenty
sixth season. I bring that up because here was Dana
Brown with us yesterday when you asked him about Renel Blanco.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, Blanco had.
Speaker 11 (15:22):
His second opinion, and we're gonna talk to the doctor
at some point this afternoon. But he had the second opinion,
and we'll have an update probably at the end of
the game today this as we have a day game,
all right.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
So a couple of things right there, Sean that I
think we can obviously disagree with. Number one, I mentioned
that we wrapped it up at about nine to fifty
and then just after ten twenty we get that release
that comes out. And I find it pretty hard to
believe that the afternoon came in those forty minutes.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
I said, I guess the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
That would make it about three point thirty or so
four o'clock after the game right now, you would think yesterday, Yeah,
Dana's been great to us, Love Dana, but I can
tell you that it's not above christ. One of two
things happened. If it happens within an hour after the show,
either you are not in the loop and this decision
was made without you, or he basically roniated in the
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face and told us it was raining.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Because what I gathered from that.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Is that that basically that the Houston astros knew before
our interview yesterday, or coming right out of it, the
Renelle Blanco or even coming into it, was done that
the second opinion was they were told on a second opinion,
he needs to be shelved for the year. He's gonna
get Tommy John. And then, like you said, I didn't
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pay attention to the time stamp and I went back
and looked at it because when I got off here,
I had other stuff to do that that ain't the afternoon,
and that is an after the game, if you know,
tell us I understand the fans disdain about injuries. That
business has happened before, no problem. I mean, I know
what happens. You're protecting your team and the rest of it.
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But what's the secret when you know forty minutes later
you got to I mean, is there a certain protocol
you got to wait so certain people are sitting in
a room to hear the press conference or the announcement
when you know we're going to find out in an
hour of it. And and you're a regular here weekly.
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I don't think, not that you need to break stories here.
I don't care, but you know, didn't wait till four
o'clock if that's what you're going to tell us.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
But in my opinion, you can't.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Say, yep, we're gonna wait till after the game and
within an hour after a show if you've been asked
the question specifically about that player. I could only deduct
one or two things. The general manager had no clue
what was going on with the injury, which I find
hard to believe. No indeans day to day hands on
stuff and the way he follows and loves this team,
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or he just oh well, we can't announce now. And
my question is why, well, what? What?
Speaker 12 (18:10):
What?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Who needed to know first? If you had a chance,
you're on here, it's it's damn near ten o'clock. The
difference team ten and ten forty five. But what would
would he have to get clearance from Clarence? I don't understand,
So to me, I actually think it's weak, and I
rarely say that about stuff that they do, not personal professional,
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but I know, damn well, when you're specifically asked and
he said second opinion. He knew when he answered it
one of two things. Either he's out of the loop
on the injuries, which as the GM that's hard for
me to fath him because he's good. Secondly, he knew
and decided they were going to wait. But that to me,
there's about a six hour time difference in that we
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were told on here. But I assure you, and I'm
making this promise to you again, like I do every
single week, I don't do softball questions with with Dana Brown.
He will if you're done still out the next time
this show airs and he's on, he's gonna get the
whole Segment's gonna be why where, when, what's going on?
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What's going on? Threshold of paint because they put it
in his lap, So I'm gonna find out. So if
you ever thought that you wanted a soft interview, it
ain't coming from me.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
I can sure as I'll tell you that. Ever, they don't.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Owe me anything, They don't know you anything other than
the fact that you know, just saw you'd come on
and do it. But the frustrating part about it, and
I do get the astros fans disdain you, wonder well,
is it true? Is in it? My gut tells me
this is my opinion. I'm sure it's hell entitled to it.
When it comes to business and your credibility in mind
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in the show and everybody else's. It does work like
we do when you ask the question and you answer it.
I can only deduct two things, so you can't get
mad at me for saying what I want to say.
Either you did know and you're out of the loop,
or you damn well new and decided you're just gonna
wait another thirty minutes. And I say, for what, ask
a question, get an answer given a lot of leeway, man,
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we do, but I can. I can tell you, so
anybody do out there that wants to know if there's
everything and Dan one thing I may not be good
as much, but one thing I know how to do
is interview a guest. And I always have. I've been
a good learner and listener. And they're not a person
in our building or in their building that's gonna prevent
me from peppering with the right questions every single week.
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Every every week that will be a deep dive. And
sometimes when a can of worms open up and now
now the deep dive is gonna be I need an
extra hour of fresh air to dive, to dive way
down into that ocean to get the answers I'm looking for.
And I assure you I'm gonna get them one way
or the other. And if we don't, I'm gonna tell
you what. It'll be an exhausting fifteen minutes. I promise
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you that. So yeah, I mean it's fine. And so
I can only deduct two things in my journalism career
and broadcast career and entertainment career that when you tell
me that forty minutes later, you either knew and didn't
want to answer it, or you're the GM and you're
out of the loop, or somebody's tapped and don't talk
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about it. Don't talk about and whatever the three is,
I don't care. It will not prevent me from peppering questions.
So please let your non get back healthy between now
and the next time I do an interview on Wednesday
at nine thirty.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Well, and that's not the only thing too that we
covered with Dana Brown yesterday, because we also found something
else out after our conversation. You asked him about Spencer Raghetty.
This was the answer we got.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
He's going to get the uh, you know, the cast
off sometimes here soon and he's going to start a
throwing programs.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
You know.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
I think he's going to be fine. You know, he's
right there at the brink of of tautin. So once
he gets through that, well we're gonna be work to
go and get him stretched out and let him start
to throw. So I think he's probably within a week
of getting it off.
Speaker 10 (22:09):
Sean.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
He no, he threw on Tuesday. He played catch on Tuesday.
He addressed the media about it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So they played catch in private on Tuesday, addressed the media.
Value Well, I'm out of town, so I didn't see
his address to the media. So there it is. I
can tell you what I'm not. I'm not a sounding board.
I promise you that. So love him, always do. We'll
always support. But if they don't like tough questions, I'm
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the wrong guy. Okay, I can assure you I'm the
wrong guy. So yeah, it's I don't even know how
to I'm I'm not even sure how to take it. Dan,
to be honest with you, I'm not I'm not really sure
how to take it.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Although my disdain.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
So the next time you tell me about an injury,
I'm just gonna freaking say you're lying to me.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Whoever it is. That that's what I guess.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I got a deduct or that when you tell me
one thing that I'll either know that so so how
I mean, we went from we'll know in the late
afternoon to the guy's done for the year and we'll
know what he gets his cast off.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
That the guy already.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Threw and his cast was already off and nobody knew
and happened the day before. Huh okay, all right, never personal,
always business. But guess what guess of my job is
as a host of this show when the interview is
to find answers and to ask answers that unfortunately for
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the fans, they don't get asked. And at times I
thought maybe the fans are a little too harsh on
this because of the secretive or the but you know what,
they're not have every right to be that frushrated, especially
oh man, every guy he's gonna throw tomorrow, Well it
happened twenty four hours ago, oh man, Blanco, We're gonna
find out this afternoon. Later this afternoon, what the answer
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is within an hour you get oh he's got Tommy John.
So yeah, you know what, sometimes you got to go
through these things to do it. Better do your homework
because I'm coming. Just you know, when he says, hey,
we're coming, I mean and I love him. We're gonna
bring it. Well, guess what I'm bringing it too, just
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like I could do every week, So there will be
no soft selling injuries or okay, they until I'm satisfied
and you're satisfied.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
In fact, I'm just gonna keep at it.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
If that means that it's a fifteen minute injury interview
for answers, That's exactly what I'm going to do because
that's my job and that's what I get paid. And
if somebody tasked me on the show and says you
can't ask him anymore, then then then then we'll have
to adjust that because guess what I'm gonna say, then
we should, we should, we would. Then that's an interview
I shouldn't be doing because I got a responsibility and
I'm not gonna and I won't be that guy, I
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promise you. So there you go. Needless to say you
lost Blanco Arragett, He's a ahead a schedule. Just see
you guys know he's a day ahead of schedule. It
was Tuesday instead of Wednesday. And Lance mccullors looked good
last night. And if you want answers, you're in the
right place because I promise you I'll get them one
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way or the other.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Well, I mean it's something too that we owe to
our audience. I mean, this is a fan base that
has stood with this team for a really long time,
especially after twenty seventeen. And I mean I paired exactly
what you said about the one of two things. Either
we were intentionally misled or he just didn't know. And
that's second part is one that I shut her to
think because I can't have the GM of the team
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not knowing what's happening with his team.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Well, if he's out of a loop on injuries like that,
disastrous team's in trouble.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
As a GI, I can say. So, I'm just asked
somebody telling.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Me what else that we're supposed to deduct from it
either doesn't know it has zero idea what's going on
in the injury world, or just decided to take the
trail somewhere else. And then forty five, I don't even
know when the answer. But I can tell you this,
We asked, get answers, and we will continue to do it.
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And you know, on Wednesdays at nine thirty or anybody
else that comes on here, they're not getting off the
air without getting tempered proper questions. If you want softballs,
I go a couple of TV shows you can tune
into where guys make a lot of money. They wouldn't
know how to interview their way out of a wet
ass paper bag or paper towel for that matter. So
you can find those guys on this show. On this show,
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regardless of anybody else is disdained for the tough questions
that are asked. I don't care. They will get asked.
They will continue to get asked, and it'll never be personal.
It'll be baseball related as always. And you know, maybe
next time we'll get a little bit better time stamp
(26:52):
on it.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Well, here's hoping for that. But yeah, those were a
couple of things. And Sean, I mean, I don't go
back and delete tweets, but you know that I transcribe
whenever you're talking. I went back and deleted those because
it's it's an insult to our audience to keep those
out there and when clearly it's just not factual news.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
So if it was me, I wouldn't have I wouldn't
have deleted them. It's not a matter of fact. It's
clearing quotes. That's not on you. They get asked the
questions pretty simple. What's the what's the prognosis for Renel Blanco?
You get the answer. That's not on you to de
lead them. So if the fans got a problem with
(27:32):
the answer, let the fans decipher what their.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Problem is with it. It's our job.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
It's not your job to decipher what they're thinking. Sure
you put the quote in, leave it up. That's not
on you. Here's what was said on a live radio show.
What tape, there's no doubt. Here's what was said. Now
you go and do whatever you want as a fan,
deducting it from whoever it is. I don't care if
it's football, basketball, baseball, player, coach, manage, it doesn't matter. Owner,
(27:57):
don't care. They're all gonna get asked tough questions. Don't
care what they make or what they do or what
their title is. Could care less. They're gonna get asked questions.
And when they put their answer there, and it's in quotes.
You don't know what to anybody to delete it. So
you look right or we look right. The fact of matters.
It was asked, it was answered, and the answer was
far away different than what the result was.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Period.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
That's called accountability. Brother, Yeah, that's what that's called. And
it sits. So next time you get quotes, don't erase them.
Don't erase them. Let everybody else deduct what they wanted
deduct from the answers. It's not our job to erase
somebody else to something that came out of somebody else's mouth.
It ain't your job to do that. It's their job
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to deduct what they want. As long as the quote's accurate.
It ain't on you, my friend, next time you leave it.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Yeah, fair enough, no, no doubt about it's and it's
something that we can continue to talk about all throughout
the show. But also too, there are positives when it
comes to the astros, and we will discuss some of
those here as we continue along on The Sean Salisbury
Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 10 (29:04):
I had lived that, but the Sewn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
One three, two, one two five seven ninety. The number
to get in. Me and Sean just talking a couple
of minutes ago about our conversation yesterday with Astro's GM
Dana Brown, who joins us every single week here on
the program, and I mean it is appreciated. We we
do absolutely appreciate having the chance to catch up with Dana,
and we do get great things out of Dana. But
(29:33):
I mean, Sean, I'm gonna even use some of Dana's
words against him here, not from yesterday, but when Renel
Blanco last year got suspended for getting ejected for supposed
sticky stuff and it lanted a suspension, he had a
line of saying, hey, look after what came out in
twenty twenty, we have to be very you know, dotted
(29:54):
i's and cross t's when it comes to the stigma
of this organization and things like this again where you
think about the audience in this case right here, where
this is an audience that has stood by this organization
through thick and thin ever since all that came out,
the booze on the road, cheeter allegations, trash cans, all
(30:15):
of those different types of things. And I can't help
but think like this is how you repay them where
they honestly want to know what is happening with their team,
what is happening with their players, and the depth of
this pitching staff has been stretched all of those different
types of things, and it's just like, I just I
can't understand taking that tact with this. If you don't
(30:35):
want to answer it, just straight up say every single week,
Hey guys, I can't get into it, or I'll get
into it later or something like that. Don't just tell
us something that is just on its merits completely false.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, but the still the thing is that you can't
get into their injuries. I'm still asking. I just am
I'm going to ask. Now, there's certain things personal stuff
that we don't need to ask or hip a stuff.
Of course, I'm not going to ask that. It's called
being fair. I love Data on every Wednesday Night thirty.
He's been great to me and been great to us.
(31:09):
I love it. But I also don't have to agree
with everything he says. It's not my job to kiss ass. Okay,
it's not my job. Oh yeah, well this is. You know,
you want to start naming shows on TV I can
turn on for you that are popular where they would
that it's just a hug Fest or I'm not doing
that on this show. I'll quit the career before I
(31:31):
do that. I ain't losing credibility on questions to appease
an organization or my own organization.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
I'm just not doing it.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
My job when you put me in the chair and
turn on a mic is to ask questions that people
need to know the answer to or want to know
the answers to. Whether you get him or not, it's
up to whoever you're in interviewing. I need to know
a question about an NBA player, and I'm interviewing an
NBA guest and he doesn't want to give it. That's
on him. It doesn't mean I'm not going to ask
it now going into an interview sensitive information. This person
went through this, they're probably a life, they're family. Of course,
(32:01):
I'm not going we were you know when it came
when it When it comes to what's been going on
with some other things about the Lanceoma colors investigation, about
the threats, when when when when? When you can't get
into those, I completely get it. I been not above
with their things that you just absolutely can't talk about,
of course, But when it comes to injuries, we could
(32:23):
talk about it, and I'm going to ask even if
I'm going to ask and listen, this is we get
good stuff, great stuff every week, some many times breaking stuff.
The Catcher of the future is Yainer Dias, while Corey
Lee is in the organization at the time Dieas was
(32:43):
the Catcher of the future. So we get good, great stuff,
and I love it. I look forward to it. But
I don't have to agree with everything and said, and
I sure as hell don't have to stop asking questions
because well, you know what you've done now is you've
just made me more curious, and so I'm gonna I'm
gonna dive even deeper. So if you didn't, if you
don't like the injury talk before, you're gonna hate it.
(33:06):
Now if if you're the one has to answer the questions,
I can promise you that, okay, So there will be
no muzzle put on about what you can't talk injuries. Oh,
I'm gonna ask you do whatever you want with them.
But meaning whoever's a guest, I do love it. I
don't have to agree, and you're exactly right at a time, listen,
there's a way to go about it without giving up
(33:28):
some guy's private or personal injury information. It's not as
if somebody had an injury and well, we're trying, we
need we need to keep it quiet for a week
and then an answer. But they left the show yesterday
and I knew Ronel Blanco was done for the year.
And if they didn't, then they're awfully Then then then
they're out of touch in the organ did and I
(33:49):
don't think they're out of touch. So love them and
do it. But that doesn't mean I have to agree
with everything. Is that I got best friends and people
who've been married, or you got kids. I love my kids.
I don't agree. We've had plenty of head banging situation,
has any family and parent that's out there doing it?
So I'm going to ask them, and I'm going to
ask deeper and harder. You don't get it. We don't
(34:10):
get the answer anymore of just well we're just going
to take it day by day. What does that mean?
You explain to me what that means. Well, we're gonna
wait and we're gonna see after it. Because next time
he says, well we're gonna wait till after the game.
Guess what I'm going to say. Are you sure you're
going to wait, fair, and that's exactly what I'm going
to say. And listen, Guess guess what dan in my
(34:32):
life over the last forty years or thirty years. Guess
the next time I'm bothered by somebody a guest or
bothered by somebody that that is bothered by the question,
that'll be the first time that I'm affected by it.
It ain't gonna happen because when you choose to get
into this profession, your job, you can be an ask kissing,
(34:54):
soft selling, softball question over talking interview forty seven sentences
to get four answers out of a guy. Yeah, I'll
point you to those guys when they do interviews. But
if you if you want answers, or at least the
questions that need to be asked, you'll get them. Here
sounds arrogant, it's not arrogant.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
It's just fact.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
So and you may not get the answers you want
to hear, but I'm going to seek the answers and
with the fans here, Now, why would you now not
not have more be more bothered by it? I don't
know what the big secret is? WHOA what the secret
is three? Or is there an obligation to somebody else.
You got to tell them first. Does that obligation exists?
(35:33):
I don't know, didn't think so. But what's the big
secret about Ronell Blanco?
Speaker 7 (35:38):
We knew he was bothered.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
And I mean, just as quickly as you could have
answered it at nine forty five, you can answer it
at ten twenty. They don't know any obligation to me.
Just I guess what you're always looking for is transparency,
the same transparency I'm going to give you. And I
asked the question, so you know, I don't have to
agree with it. It's okay, it's not it's not per
(36:00):
so this is business related. But when you come on
at nine thirty, if you're expecting it, or you come
on at ten oh five, or you come on with
Steve Sparks at eight o'clock, we have laughs. I'm not
softballing Steve Sparks the question. Steve knows it. And if
Steve can't answer it, you know what Steve will say,
probably not, Probably can't answer it. Steve. Steve's very good
at understanding this. He's in the business. He gets it.
(36:20):
So no, it's not not that big a deal. But
don't get you can you can't complain as an organization wondering, man,
what answer do I trust? Remember, this was a bone
bruise for seventy for seventy games last night. Okay, it
was a bone bruise. This is just discomfort in a hand.
(36:40):
It's a lot of discomfort for three weeks. So we'll see.
But fans, you can rest assured that at nine thirty,
at eight o'clock, any other time you have a guest
that comes on, I will have plenty of last but
they're not going to get softballed. It will It will
not happen in the day that it ever happens where
that's something that has to be done. I will not
(37:03):
be the guy doing the interview period at any level,
any show, anytime, any part of it, at seventy five
or at thirty, I will not be doing it. If
you're looking for well, we're just here to butter them up.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
Guess what wrong?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Cat? That ain't it?
Speaker 5 (37:21):
Yeah, we're not.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Fans deserve more than an ask kissing softballer. Okay, question,
you ain't getting it from me. Like I said, you'll
have to put a muzzle on me before that happens.
And I don't have a problem with it. See because
I'm not thirty begging for forty more years in the business.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
Not doing that.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Okay questions, Like I said, if I want to do that,
I'll go have a beer and smoke a cigar and
we'll softball our ass off. Okay, on here, when it's
time to ask a question. The fans who pay to
go watch games and do them buy all the memorabilia,
does deserve at least the question. And whether you get
the answer or not, ain't me. I can't ask an
answer it and ask it again. I can give you
my opinion when the interview's over. So, like I said,
(38:03):
it's never personal. But if you if you people want
to wonder why there's fans disdain, you should protect your
players the right way to protect your players when it
comes to injury and you're trying to figure out what
it is. But come on, man, If if you know
twenty minutes thirty minutes after a show that the guys are,
you're on and I'm asking the question and you already
(38:24):
know if you did, I think it's just silly. I
don't understand why you wouldn't say there's a good chance
he may be on the shelf of the year what's
the difference, right, because you've got to have more bodies around.
There's plenty of people listening. Hints that there's a number
one behind that number sign from this show, so plenty
listen and they look forward to it. And people did
know baseball, So it's okay. Like I said, I'm still
(38:47):
going to probe the for answers. I still am so.
But you can't have a problem with the disdain of
fans over injuries when the elementary part of injuries you
have to guess on no, won't happen here. I'm just
telling you and I don't and I don't. I don't
care who decides that they need to talk to me
(39:08):
about that. Wow, it won't matter.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Well, we're not in the business of public relations on
this show.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I go work for a PR firm. Yep, yeah, I
think we're not in a PR firm. I'm into building
strong relationships and partnerships. But also, when you quit asking
the tough questions, that's when your show sucks, and then
people can look and say you're not going to get
any fair answers because the guy who's asking the questions
isn't asking any is It's just kind of beating her
(39:33):
und oh Man al tuove he's hitting two fifty five,
but boy, we'll see him in the Hall of Fame.
Those aren't the questions that need ask Now. This is
during a baseball season, okay, and they're tough questions and
they need to be asked, whether the answer or not
on who. It's not just it's any It wouldn't matter
what the sport or who the guest is. So have laughs,
have fun. But I'm not in it to buddy up
(39:57):
every week to anybody. I'll be their friend when it
comes there. There's that fifteen minutes. This is you answer
what you want to answer. But if you're looking for
a softball, go find somebody who doesn't have the credibility
in asking it, because it won't be.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Me fair enough. Here here as it is the Sean
Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety seven one three two
one two five seven ninety the number to get in.
I will continue with more Astros conversation next right here.
As they win yesterday five to three over the A's
and sweep that series for The Sean Salisbury Show continued,
(40:30):
I guess now it's a wait and see on Christian Walker,
which is a bummer too, given what we've seen up
from him with the bats in recent games. The home
run the night before yesterday takes the pitch off the right.
I think you said middle finger knuckle, but he said, now,
it's just dealing with the inflammation, and well do we
know how that goes?
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah, Dan, it's uh, it is a bummer. Hopefully we're
back on the injury thing. Hopefully it's short term okay,
and you can get him back out there, because he
looked like he's starting us to feel it a little bit.
So I'm sure it'll be a question we get to
ask next week. Well, we'll see.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Yeah, he did say he is going to be good
to go. That is what he said in the clubhouse
yesterday after the game. Hopefully that's the case. Yeah, let's
hope that that's true. Let's hope it's true sooner than
later and hopefully right away. And if it is, then
no big deal. It's not an injury. He's banged up.
Big difference between hurt and injury. Injury. You're out hurt
(41:32):
sometimes you got to play through it. So let's hope
that that's the case. Absolutely all right, So let's get
into the astros in the race for number two. When
it comes to the pitching staff, we'll discuss that. Here
is hour two gets going next right here Sean Salisbury Show,
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Speaker 5 (44:03):
Five to three over the A's and sweep that quick
two game series. The Rays coming into town for four
games over the weekend, the Thunder moving on to the
NBA Finals in five games over the Timberwolves. The Pacers
trying to close out the Knicks tonight in New York.
They are up at three to one in that Eastern
Conference Finals series. Some one three, two, one two five,
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seven to ninety is the number two jump in and Sean,
as we get back into the personnel discussion with the Astros,
pitching has been a constant topic of conversation with us
here and for good reason, because it's been really good
for you this year and you're hoping that continues to
be the case as you move forward this season.
Speaker 10 (44:45):
But I threw out.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
Something a little bit earlier in the show, and we
can get into it right now. It's the race for
number two because I feel like with the performance you
got yes day at a Lance mccullors junior and what
we can know about him from his past when healthy,
that is an important caveat to throw out there because
that has been an issue with his career. He can
take over the Renel Blanco spot in this rotation. Blanco
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was giving you about the same results whenever he would
take the mound for you, he was giving you five
innings or so. I mean, I know, a couple of
starts before he went out he had an eight inning performance,
which was really nice to see, but for the most
part he was living in that five getting into the
sixth inning range. Lance mccullors can take over that spot.
Now it comes down to who are your two other
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guys in the rotation where you probably believe that now
you can go with a five man rotation at least
for the foreseeable future. Colton Gordon absolutely up for conversation.
Ryan Gusto a guy that's been yoyoed all season long,
but now he's a starting pitcher for you. That's a
guy that's competing. And then it's who are you going
to get at the trade deadline?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, I mean you mentioned the two options. Aren't those
the two strongest options to.
Speaker 7 (45:56):
Be four and five for right now?
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Lord? Yeah? I mean so knowing now that two of
your five starters are out for the year. You're hoping
now that mccolors is back. That's what you saw yesterday
and you don't know, I mean just how and when
effective wise, Spencer Ragetty's going to be when he'll be
effective when he comes back. You guys good and young
(46:20):
and young people recover pretty well. But there's no doubt
that with the two of your guys out for the
year that finding the four and five will be important.
You know those aren't just throwaway starts. Those are important
every single week and every time they come up. But yes,
knowing this now, you are going to because the odds
(46:43):
are at some point this season. Hate to say it,
but odds will tell you that some other starter is
going to miss a starter or two.
Speaker 7 (46:52):
They just are.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
So the depth was so once again you needed Kokuchi
trade deadline. You needed a body, and that body was
really good and not just a body, but a body
that can get stuff done.
Speaker 7 (47:06):
You're going to have to go out and search that you.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Just are because right now there's more wonder than there is.
No brainer. Now the bullpen has been spectacular. We know
what fromber and Hunter Brown bring and hopefully this is
more lance than you know. His start number two this year.
The other two still a crap shoot, Gordon and Gusto
not knowing, you know, as they get in and maybe
(47:30):
settle in. You don't know. But there's still ifs and
then the if of okay, well what if this happens?
Then what do we do? So right now, I mean,
I know you want more power And every year we're
having this conversation. Every team's probably having the conversation, especially
when it comes to pitching in depth. Yeah, as it
stands right now, because the chances are you're you're going
(47:53):
to need another big and another starter who can log
innings and be really good, because the chances of the
five guys that are going to be run out there
being the five guys in September day every single time,
the statistics would probably tell you that that's that's not
it's not gonna be easy to get to that. So
(48:14):
if a guy misses a start or you know, is
on the IL for ten days or two starts, then
what well, you scramble around And I trust the organization
when it comes to finding ways to develop, they just do.
They develop players. Guys that are from your JP France
shows up two years or whatever it was ago then
a Ronelle Bloco shows up last year and you're hoping
(48:35):
somebody else, But guys, you got to go get the
One thing about it is you keep parting with assets.
You did it for Kokuchi last year. We've seen this
in the past, and it's going to take it again.
If this is a World Series aspirations team, which I
believe it is, and we haven't even seen them with
their best baseball yet. So yeah, Dan, that is something
(48:57):
that I would imagine. That's when you go to the
whiteboard in their little scouting or talent evaluation room or
what the needs are on the whiteboard, there's we need
another starting pitcher.
Speaker 5 (49:09):
I would imagine that exists well, and that is something
that immediately gets the mind wondering of who is out
there as a possibility. I got a name that is
at the top of my list, and it's a familiar name.
Charlie Morton on a one year deal right now with
the Orioles. He's making fifteen million dollars this season Sean,
but his first six outings he was zero to six
(49:29):
with a ten ERA, twenty one AR twenty four and
a third innings pitched. His last seven outings one and
one with a three point five seven era with twenty
two and two thirds innings pitched, somebody that can get out,
somebody that can log innings for you, and obviously two,
even though there's a lot of different faces in the
clubhouse from the last time he was here, somebody who
(49:50):
knows that clubhouse very well.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Yeah, you hope that the ladder of the two is
who the Charlie Morton is and the guy city loves him.
He's been lights out here. He's had a good career
wherever he's been. For the most part, Charlie's been a
pretty clutch guy. The question is do you think that
who is he? Is he the early season Baltimore guy
(50:13):
or this guy? And I think fans believe he's this guy.
And then once again, when you come to this city,
it seems that whatever the best is you're giving Kukuchi,
that's what you're going to get when those guys come here.
And familiarity does matter, and it's not overly costly, that's
for sure.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
Well, in the Astros currently, if my numbers are correct.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Baltimore struggling. They fired manager. I mean, the Baltimore's reeling,
you know with their I mean, you know when you
fire a manager, they're going they're going through their questions themselves,
so they may be willing to deal and work some
things too. So there you go.
Speaker 5 (50:48):
Well, I mean, and that's to your point. There are
sixteen games out of first there are eleven games out
of a wildcard spot. They've just lost too straight. It
doesn't seem like that's going to get back on track
this year for Baltimore. I mean, they did fire the manager.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Times.
Speaker 5 (51:00):
That's the hope that maybe you can get the twenty
twenty two Phillies where you fire Joe Girardi and you
bring in Rob Thompson and you think that things can
turn around, and obviously it worked out for them there,
but it doesn't seem like it's doing that in Baltimore.
And again too, I mean for an aging guy who
is on a one year deal, probably not gonna be
with you after next season, it's a win win for both.
(51:21):
That number comes off the books for you to you know,
depending on how much money you take on that. And again,
I mean, we know he's a guy that can sometimes
start slow and pick up steam as the season goes along.
And more importantly, I mean I'm not asking for him
to be the bell cow of this rotation. I got
two guys that can already do that. I'm asking him
(51:41):
to be somebody that can log innings for you at
the back end.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Yeah, and like I said, nothing but good feelings for
Charlie more than this town, and I think everybody would
echo those same sentiments. The question is if you're going
to go get him, which, like I said, you're not
gonna have to mortgae. It's not like you're gonna have
to trade four prospects or Charlie at this stage of
his career. But you do have to ask yourself, is
(52:05):
he that piece? Is there somebody else who provides more
that's gonna it's a veteran that innings and we won't
have to mortgage, you know, assets. We have again to
get a guy that hopefully is not a rental in
some cases, you know, like Kokuchie was last year, and
then it hopes you can keep him. But Charlie's had
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success here and I know this city likes the Mortons
and the Ulie who've had success even though they're along
in their career, and familiarity makes it easy to make
that decision. But the other side of it, you also
have to sift through it and say, well, is Charlie
Morton this Baltimore ool or when he was here, when
he was pitching somewhere else? Which guy is he at
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this stage of his career? And if you believe that
he's the guy who's pitching well right now, and we'll
do that for you, then you don't hesitate to make
a move like that, especially one that will be fairly
inexpensive when it comes to assets.
Speaker 5 (53:03):
I'd start making the calls right now. I think that
there is nothing that could be lost from that. I mean,
all you can be told is, hey, we're gonna wait
until next month. But I mean, if you're the Orioles though, too,
there's really no reason for you to continue to wait.
I mean, it doesn't seem like it's gonna get any
better anytime soon. All right, coming up right here on
the Sewn Salisbury Show. It's a topic we've talked about
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numerous times, and all we can say is not all
heroes wear caves. We'll explain what we mean right here.
It is the Thursday edition of the Shawn Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (53:36):
Why You're back.
Speaker 10 (53:38):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Get back at it.
Speaker 10 (53:45):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?
The Salisbury's takeout, Salisbury takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 5 (53:56):
It is the Shawn Salisbury Show, every weekday mornings from
here on Sports Talk seven ninety six to ten, a
m Astros five to three winners over the A's yesterday
they sweeped that series. The Rays next in town for
four games and the thunder dispatch of the Timberwolves in
five games, moving on to the NBA Finals Texans on
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the OTA's practice field, Sean, a recurring theme here on
the show. Like yesterday we talked about driving and frustrations
with that. We've talked about before air travel, and that
is where we go today because I know that you're
a road trip guy. I'm a road trip guy. If
it now you know, like the Texans have the eighty
to fifty rule, they say they do, but if it's
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above eighty degrees or it's below fifty degrees, well then
the roof is going to be closed over there in
RG Stadium. Mine for road trips as opposed to flying
is if it's about eight hours or less in a
straight shot, I'm driving Like that is happening. There's no
BUCkies in the sky. There is nobody sitting next to
me other than people I want sitting next to me.
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I control my own music, I control my own temperature,
everything else of the sorts. It is much better than security,
everything else that goes into air travel. What about the
unloading the plane, the unboarding process that happens. We've shared
our frustrations with those two. You get the people who
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you're in twenty three, see they're in twenty seven, and
they decide, oh, I just need to get off this plane. Well,
so do I. You're in twenty seven, I'm in twenty three.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Well.
Speaker 5 (55:30):
The country of Turkey apparently is taking this into consideration
in offering punishments for those who violate said rule. Under
Turkish ruling, which was approved by the Turkish Directorate General
of Civil Aviation, all cabin crews on flights landing in
Turkey must alert passengers of the new instructions. Passengers will
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be warned they must respect the disembarkation priority of passengers
in front in a world around you, or you will
be reported to Turkish authorities and an administrative fine will
be imposed in accordance with the applicable legal regulations. Fines
for the line jumpers and for the people who immediately
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get up as soon as the plane hits the gate.
These are all frustrations I do share, and I am
for it.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Good for Turkey. There's the flights now ruined by sometimes
flight attendants aren't having their best day, and it's like, well,
if you don't like ask when somebody asks for a
glass of water, then why are you doing this. You're
in the customer service business.
Speaker 7 (56:40):
It's your job.
Speaker 1 (56:41):
But on the other side, I wouldn't want if I
was them have to deal with the fans. You deal
with when I say fans, the customers, they can be
a pain in the ass. I'm all for it. There's
no doubt the guy who wants to sprint up and
move as if the people in front of him didn't
have a flight to catch as well. Okay, yeah, we
all want to get off, we all want to stand
up there. There's no doubt the flights have become I
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cringe at the customer that they're going through all that
stuff now. Honestly, even if you you know, got the
TSA stuff, you can go through the other line, which
you do because you don't want to have all that
I'll see I'll see and I'll raise you one. I
don't fly unless it's an in and out, have to
be in for a meeting and back out that same
day or the next morning. I'm I'm out on the
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West coast, drive, be driving up to Monterey, be driving back. Drive.
If it's over I don't care if it's under three
hours or over three hours or over time. I'm driving.
And a lot of it is I bring my dogs
because I don't trust a dog hotel to take care
of my dogs for three weeks, and I don't want
to be without them. They travel and I travel. I
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won't unless I own a private plane, which I don't,
but you you know, sell a business and make a
billion dollars. I'd buy one just so I can come
and go as I want. I'm not a snob, but
I want. It comes to flying that part, I am
TSA and all that. The parking airports, how irritate you know.
You go to a candy store, everybody's happy, you go
go buy everybody's tame.
Speaker 7 (58:10):
You go to the airport, nobody's happy.
Speaker 1 (58:12):
Unless they're flying to Vegas, and then they're miserable flying home.
It's the greatest flight in and the worst flight out. Okay,
so it's to me the air travel's got gotten worse,
It's all.
Speaker 7 (58:23):
It's gotten worse. So and I don't like.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
A lot of rules and regulations, but Turkey's got it right.
If you're going to be that dumbass in the back
of the plane that's pushing and shoving because you've got
to catch, well, the person in twelve A has one two,
so stop it. And it's miserable the person next to
you and there and then you don't know what smells
and who snores, and who wants this and to have
to get up and go to the restroom. I'm telling
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you now, dude, I don't care if it's the twenty
I drive. I can't remember the last time unless it
was a business important flight or where I flew for leisure.
I load the truck up and I drive. I like
stopping at certain places along the way. I like seeing
the countryside. I do fly. I mean I used to
fly all but when I was at ESPN, did I
flew two hundred thousand miles a year.
Speaker 7 (59:08):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
It's a even if you fly enough where you're sitting
in first class, just the whole hassle I don't. I
have no problem driving. A matter of fact, I don't
remember the last time I took a vacation flying. Hell
until this, I remember the last time I took a vacation.
So there's gonna be more of it because it's we
all need it. But I have no problem if I
don't have to be there in an hour or two
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hours or three hours. I'm flying, I mean I'm driving.
I am driving truck. People are like, oh, that miserable
trip across Texas. Yep, I've made it a million times
and I'll make it a million more, So I'm with you.
More stipulations you can put on customers that are dumb
asses on a plane or in an airport and they're
always irritable.
Speaker 7 (59:50):
Put it on them, okay.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
I'm okay, put the stranglehold on them to stop them.
I don't mean literally to stop this stupidity. But yeah,
when it comes to that, there's a few things. I
it's not high maintenance that just bug me, and airlines
and parking at airports and frivolous crap drive me nuts.
Speaker 7 (01:00:06):
I'll get in.
Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
I can come and go as I please with my truck,
and they don't have to rent a vehicle when I'm there,
and that's a pain in the ass. You know how
that goes. I'm driving everywhere. If I go to Fenway Park,
I get back a week, I'm driving it. If I
go to Cape Cod, if I go to San Francisco,
if I drive to Montana or any vacation, they will
be in a vehicle. I'm driving. I'm not flying there
unless somebody wants to do what they did to Trump
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give me a brand new plane for free, or you
know I could afford to buy one. We have all
that kind of money. Yeah, that's luxury because my dogs
can come on that private plane and I'm good to go,
and I can get there and don't have to deal
with all the nonsense. Yes, that's the high maintenance part.
Other than that, I'm pretty casual about it. I'm driving.
My dad loved to drive. I love to drive. I
like seeing little diners along the way. You miss too
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much in an airplane. As long as I don't have
to be there quickly, I'm driving. Period.
Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
Well. It's also you know that I'm a big rules
and exceptions guy, and the exception here for me is Yes,
like you said about connections on a flight, the person
behind you, Hey, tap on my shoulder, say, hey, do
you mind it? I know that I'm in twenty six.
You guys are in twenty four. Do you'll mind if
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I go in front of you because I've got about
ten minutes to get to my flight and it's two
terminals away. My response every single time you do that,
go go.
Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
I'll help you get your luggage down. Absolutely, I'll help you.
I'll help I'll tell the person in front of me that,
hey man, this person I got it.
Speaker 7 (01:01:33):
There's no issue. It's the one who.
Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Shimmy's through that you. But usually what happens, the one
who's pushing their way through isn't trying to catch a flight.
Speaker 7 (01:01:42):
They're just impatient.
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
The one who's trying to catch a flight will literally
tell you, hey, man, would you mind like we all have,
I'm fifteen minutes away from catching this flight, and I
can't miss this because there's no other connection. Of course,
here the path for them. Man, take a sprint, here's
your luggage, have at it. But it's it's it's the
impatient why you're doing that. I mean, listen on every
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flight and it doesn't it seem over the years, for
whatever reason, it's gotten worse that people are far worse
on flights than they ever were. I honestly, I get
such there's traffic gets me. Very few things get me
in a bad mood to the point I don't. I'm
not a bad mood very often. I'm pretty pretty easy.
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I kind of like life. And it's we make, you know,
the stupid stuff that gets all what we all do.
But I'm usually a pretty good mood and love and life. Man,
We've got a good life. But I can tell you
this like other people. Because of other people, I can't
stand and they nickel and dimey at airports and I
I can't remember the last time I went to an airport,
no matter even if I was flying to go on vacation,
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which has been years, I can't remember the last time
I was in an airport and thought, man, I'm in
such a great mood.
Speaker 7 (01:02:53):
Because even if.
Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
You are, like you're going to Hawaii for a vacation, somehow,
some way, somebody standing in line for food, somebody waiting
in line to get on the plane, somebody on the
plane will get to a point where it's like, well,
you ruin my good mood. So I'll just come on
in a bad mood. When I get there, I'll change
my mood. So and that's why in planes, like we've
talked about, I don't I'm not a big verbiage talk guy. Okay,
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I'm a book a book guy, and let me read
and I'll buy eight magazines that I want to read,
and I'll read a book, and I just I'm just
not a talker because I don't want to get you know,
because once you dial in, if you got that one
person who wants to talk for four st eight hours
and you needed like a cat nap or you need
to study something, you ain't getting it. So yeah, I'm
not a gotten to the point where I'm not going
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to the Airport's not my favorite thing. Let's just put
it that way. So I'll drive.
Speaker 7 (01:03:45):
I just as soon drive.
Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
And if it took me four extra hours, it's four
extra hours less of stress. I cannot. I'm to the
point I almost despise going to airports. Now, Well, don't
even get You've had a lot to do with that too.
The virtue signaling. You know the guy that the virtue
signals that you want to punch in the face. Yeah,
that one, Yeah, that that ruined it, and now it's
almost as.
Speaker 7 (01:04:07):
If airports are they're just I.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Don't see many happy people at airports, and I like
to see happy people, so I just usually stay away
from it so I can drive on driving simple now.
Speaker 5 (01:04:18):
I mean, and don't even get me started on the
people who crowd the jetway in terms of you're in
group five and they're calling group group three, get out.
Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Of my way.
Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
And then the ben horders. That's another one of people
who because bag fees are a real thing, we're finding
that in even more about a more local airline this week.
But I mean, all of those things, Hey, you know
you're supposed to check that, pay the extra thirty dollars
and check it or just don't fly. Oh right, you
know I didn't want to pay. Okay, Well then put
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it in your car and drive.
Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Yeah, I mean you can fix that, right. And it's
it's just there's just so many little things that become
big things for me. Not the least of which is like,
you know, the delays, and if you're going it's on
in one place, it's just like it's flying. And then
if it's not direct, I'm sure going to drive because
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stop it in Chicago for weather and going there and
get direct flight. It's just like, you know what, by
the time you guys do it all, I'm six hours
into my drive. I've enjoyed it. I could stop at
a diner and I can. I don't have to worry
about if I overpacked fifty pounds of luggage, doesn't matter.
I got a big old truck and we're going and
I'm enjoying the hell.
Speaker 7 (01:05:30):
Out of it.
Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
If I'm in no hurry, I'll take two extra days
to get back. I'll do whatever I gotta do. I'm not.
Speaker 7 (01:05:35):
It's no rush.
Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (01:05:38):
I only rush when I have to.
Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Now, I'm not rushing for an air flight, and I
don't that's you know, that frenzy of like, oh my gosh,
we got to get there an hour before, and I'm
the guy on an international flight that'll show up an
hour and fifteen minutes before and then wonder.
Speaker 7 (01:05:50):
Why I'm pissed? Right, So now I just I just
get rid of all.
Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
That and put my key in the Ignition and drive. Brother.
Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
I prefer it because I can go on my schedule. Yeah,
I'm on my time. I'm not this world to do
you any favors.
Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Man I'm here and you know that. Man, I'm out
of town and i've been It's all. It was all
drive all the time, So I will have covered a
lot of real estate between now and the time I
get back. So I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
God bless you in that windshield time, Randy Brad Brandon.
See all you guys right there. We'll get you guys
involved in the conversation. Get back into the astros. Here.
It is the Thursday edition of The Shawn Salisbury Show
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 10 (01:06:30):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Do you say the list is plenty or of plenty?
Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
Plenty plenty? A lot of times I feel like when
you're speaking it doesn't have to be proper grammar, and
if people try to correct you on that, those people
are jerks.
Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Because Steady, it sounds too far when you say, oh, man.
Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
Right, I'm not speaking the King's English.
Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Here right there? You go?
Speaker 7 (01:06:53):
Gotcha, Yeah, gotcha?
Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
Yeah, So there you go. The list is plenty. We're
gonna go with that. I'm sure somebody will correct us.
But what are you gonna do? Someone? Three two and
two five seven nine. You get it fired up on
the phone lines. Know a lot of you want to
get in on the astros discussion, So we'll start this
morning with Randy. Good morning, Randy, Hey, Good morning, gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
How y'all doing very well?
Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
Appreciated, Buddy good good Hey.
Speaker 13 (01:07:16):
Enjoyed your discussion about Charlie Morton. I found that interesting.
But you didn't bring up Javier or Garcia as pitchers
who are going to be available as the season goes on,
maybe in lieu of going out and picking up somebody else.
So what's the latest on those two?
Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Jabber is not going to pitch this year? I don't think, Dan,
do you have any other updates than that.
Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
That's that's the the.
Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
His name doesn't even come up.
Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
Right, that's the impression. That's the impression that I get
this year with him, Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
But hell, who the hell knows when it comes to
astros and injuries. Don't know, but I don't think he is.
And I asked Dana Brown yesterday and he said late July,
early August for Garcia, So by mid August, so you
will more than likely at least the schedule says that
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they plan on happ having him, and that would be
for the stretch run. I wouldn't count on Vier this year.
Don't know how much you're going to get out of
Garcia if he stays on schedule and it's late July
early to mid August type thing. But if you do,
that'll be a great bonus. And that's how I'd look
at it. A bonus to get Garcia Javier in twenty
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twenty six more than likely.
Speaker 7 (01:08:38):
And if Garcia can give you and he's.
Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Fully healthy and gives you the quality stuff bullpen and
or starting and that, then you know at the end
of the season, but you're not going to see him
before your kids back in school more than likely.
Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
Well, I mean, and you mentioned Garcia. I mean we're
saying the same things with him we've said about Lance
mccullors junior. And that's why I feel like the trade
market is where you have to get your fifth starter,
because the last time that Luis Garcia pitched was May
the first of twenty twenty three. If we're let's just
take data with this word right there, late July, early August, Sean,
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that's the same deal as Lance mccullor's. He won't have
pitched in two years.
Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Yeah, And then then you take it. Then you start
to work into it by that time. We're in October, right,
So for me, I'll just tell how I'm approaching it.
Speaker 7 (01:09:29):
If Garcia is there, fit.
Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Ready and gives you a mccullor's twelve strikeout game when
he comes back in mid and whenever they tell me
early August, I'm going to suggest that you probably should
plan on mid August. Then I'm going to say, well,
what a bonus it is? I personally me, I'm not
counting on Garcia to make an impact in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (01:09:52):
If he does, I'll take it.
Speaker 14 (01:09:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
That doesn't mean I don't think the guys that have
packed the pitcher I hold him in high regard. But
after two you and then coming back and trying to
fit a timeline in for a twenty twenty five season,
and where you get, you know, August and summer, September,
and if you're fortunate enough to be playing in mid
to October, great, But if you get him, to me,
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it's that bonus. It's that check you didn't expect in
the mail, that residual income. Oh that's right, I forgot
about that man boom this comes in. Yeah, then then
then then take it. Okay, But if you're counting on
the fact that Garcia is the piece that in twenty
twenty five is going to take us over the top.
If that's your if that is on your bucket lid,
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I mean, that's on your on your agenda and you've
got it marked down, I think you'd probably be wise.
You're probably going to stress a little bit more if
he if he's able to give you good Garcia and
be healthy, I think it's just a bonus which gives
them a little latitude and bandwidth. But to me, it's
twenty twenty five seasons. Success is not going to be
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based on Garcia and a hobby here. I don't think
you're going to see him this year. That's just me. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:11:04):
I mean and again too, I mean just to you know,
go off of what you were just bringing up about
Luis Garcia. I mean you're already trying to build up
Lance mccolors and been told numerous times be patient. It's
gonna take time all of this. I mean you're talking,
let's just say it is that August right there. I mean,
that's not enough time to be able to get that.
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That's that's a bullpen arm at best. I would think
if you're counting on anything from him this.
Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Year, And I mean, what exactly the way I feel.
Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
With where your issues are with this, with this pitching staff,
it's in the starting rotation in terms of having capable
arms at this point. Bullpen is fine. I've got those guys.
I've got Caleb Org back there, I've got Steven Okert.
I've got a couple of guys that we haven't talked
about today that have been unsung heroes for that group
this year, Sean Dubin and Bennett Susa been fantastic. So
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I just I think that you're probably counting on both
of those guys for the twenty twenty six season. Brad Brandon,
see you guys right there. We'll get you guys involved. Also,
one thing I do want to squeeze in with the
Astros conversation is is it time up regarding this guy?
We will talk about it right here. It is the
Sean Salisbury Show on a Thursday, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 10 (01:12:15):
Let the celebration start or Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
It was another opportunity yesterday for Brendan Rodgers to be
able to start at second base for the Astros, and
the glove has been fine. The problem has been the
bat so he has had sporadic playing time ever since
he was getting rather regular playing time in the middle
of this month. He has not gotten a hit since
the Cincinnati game, the final game of that series, where
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he went one for four. He has gone oh for three,
oh for four, oh for two, oh for three, and
oh for two yesterday, with the at bats not looking
anywhere close to being competitive or anywhere close to what
you want out of a guy that is going to
be counted on in this lineup. It's abouting one ninety
four on the season. A homer ten runs batted in.
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I almost think we're to the point here, and I
know that we're past the May first deadline where his
money is now guaranteed for the rest of the season,
but you're getting to a point where these roster spots
are so finite and you're trying to get as much
out of this roster as possible. You almost wonder if
it's time for someone else.
Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Yeah, what do you I mean? You brought him in
and you you remember Dan For any of us who thought, well,
this seems like a good addition, Gold Glove winner, pretty
decent hitter, and then the people who were who fought
that and said, yeah, but look where he played.
Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
That.
Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Everybody hits in Colorado, right, you remember reading that a
lot and hearing that a lot. Yep, and they weren't
so struggling with the bat. I don't know what they're
going to do. This team's been relatively patient with veterans
or people who struggled did come from somewhere else, and
you and I both know it. We've seen it, so
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I get what you're saying. But in one hand, is
a couple hundred at bats for now? I understand a rookie,
but for a guy who's been in baseball for a
few minutes enough are you concerned about depth? Even though
what we've got three three guys basically rotating it, you know,
at second base when needed. But is the bat? We
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know he's got a good glove. I don't know when
the winner if they'd make a decision roster wise with him, Dan,
I'm going to air on the side of this team's
more patient with players than expected, or then maybe fans are.
But the production he's going to make the decision a
lot easier if it keeps up correct. Oh, absolutely going
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to make the decision easier, and nobody wants to. I mean,
nobody hates struggling more than the guy who's struggling, I
assure you. But the contribution's got to be there because
if you can find somebody, you know, put it this way,
I'm going to have to have more production because if not,
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you can find anybody to hit like he's hitting, is
what basically you're saying. I think. So, you know, they
may have to make some tough decisions on it, but
this team has aired on the side of a little
more patience and maybe they think that they see something
that you don't day in right now that somebody else doesn't.
But the bat's going to have to improve. Well, there's
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no doubt.
Speaker 5 (01:15:35):
As far as I'm concerned, Mauricio Dubond has beat him
out for that playing time and that's does it advise
you though, No, it does not at all because of
how well he's swinging the bat. You know that he
also too has a goal glove at many different positions
the utility player, so you get roster flexibility in that
regard to But I mean, you know, is there an
answer with somebody else? Brad might have that answer, as
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we'll go to him right here.
Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Good morning.
Speaker 6 (01:16:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:16:03):
I mean, uh, Dubon is a utility player. His purpose
is supposed to come in when needed, if somebody's injured
or somebody needs to take a break. He's not a
regular everyday player. I think this guy, Shaye Wickhamb on
the triplay level, he's tearing it up and he's getting disrespected.
(01:16:27):
I think I know he came up for just a
little bit. I think you bring him up. You just
let Brendan Rodgers go, and this way before the trade deadline.
Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
You see if Shae Wickhamb can.
Speaker 8 (01:16:40):
Tear it up up here, so you don't need to
make a move at the trade deadline for another second basement,
because I like I said, Dubon is a utility guy. Ben,
Now you're taking now who's gonna be a utility guy?
But I think Shae Whitcomb deserves and not just once
every week.
Speaker 6 (01:16:59):
Bring him up.
Speaker 8 (01:17:00):
Let him play like four or five games in a row.
See what happens. I mean, all you can do is
be no better than Brendan Rodgers. But I guarantee you
he'll be a lot better than Brendan Rodgers. I don't
think they it would hurt. Do you think it's gonna
hurt him. I don't think it will. So anyway, that's
what I got, all.
Speaker 5 (01:17:17):
Right, appreciate the call, Brad. I mean, if you're doing
if you're going that route Sean, as we saw last
year in the late season game with Whitcomb, you can't
really count on him defensively, So I mean that does
have to factor in. But to Brad's point, does have
sixteen homers in a Hitters League two sixty four with
a nine to twenty five ops. So if you are
looking for the offensive upgrade at that spot, well then
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clearly he does provide that for you.
Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
There's absolutely no question about it. There there is no
question about it. There's competition and there's heat there. And
I always had the rule, I don't really care how
long you've been in the league or how sure you've
been in the league. My twenty plus best twenty four
to twenty five. That's so I'm playing so and that's
who's on my roster. I don't feel, you know, the loyalty.
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If you're not performing, that's your job and you have
to look at it. I can be patient. I understand
new venue and new organization, but when it comes to it,
I always dare I say this in sports, in football
all the time. If the rookie, if the veterans playing
like a rookie, play the rookie, makes sense? Or play
the young When I say rookie after about young player
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right right? If somebody is continuing and I don't mean
it disrespectless, just when people talk about that at quarterback,
well you play the four year veterans, let the rookie sit.
Can you imagine if they were saying that in Washington?
What would happen to the commander's future? Even know what
Jaden Daniels is. So if the veteran plays like a
rookie and a rookie plays like a veteran, or if
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the veterans playing is making mistakes that a rookie should
be making or is not performing like a veteran, play
the young guy.
Speaker 7 (01:18:58):
I have zero issue.
Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
I'll always well, what if he loses confidence, then you
shouldn't have drafted him in the first place or trade
for him the first place. So that's the case, So
I'm all for it, give me my best. I'll be patient.
I we got things to work through, but I'm not
going to keep making for anybody the excuses or well,
it'll be okay two years from now, he'll be better.
That's not me. If I got fifteen guys that are
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young that I got to play, then I'm playing it.
It's okay or KG veterans. I am building for what's now, don't.
I'm not worried about twenty twenty nine. I'm honestly, and
I never do. I'm worried about twenty twenty five and
heading into twenty twenty six. And right now he's gonna
have to play better to get run. And if a
young guy's playing better, then you may have to consider
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that run. But the question is when win's the run
up and you know Brendan, he's going to have to
he himself is gonna have to stave off some people
that are actually playing better, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (01:19:54):
Well it's also too I mean, you know, somebody brought
up a trade possibility. I mean, as I said earlier,
you pretty much have one crack at this and it's
got to go to your starting rotation. If you are
making a position player deal at this point, you're going
to be getting somebody that probably is not much more
of an upgrade when it comes to that, just with
what to offer.
Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Where you're gonna put it. I mean, I know you
can always use it, but but you're talking to me.
You're not talking about a frontline, superstar, everyday player. That's
why I say pitching as well. I'm with you, But okay,
who are you gonna go get? What play? Are you
going to go get that? You're not gonna have to
give if you get a great player. Guess what you
got to do, Dan, You give up some assets. You
got to give up some people, and people start going
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after the people that you know, your your farm system
and your good players, your top prospects, and they'll probably
try to get pitching from you. You know want you
don't want to give that up. So where where do
you go? Right now?
Speaker 7 (01:20:48):
Is it going to start over? Al Tuvey?
Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Whoever?
Speaker 7 (01:20:50):
You go get no first base? Maybe that's fine.
Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
We've been having that cop Christian Walker starting to get better,
Paratus is dialed in. They love Jake Myers. Cam Smith's
your right fielder for now tomorrow in the future. You've
got your catcher, your three, I mean, your shortstops playing
like an m VP. Where are you going? You got
dozenzo you go get? You know he can fill in
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it a handful of different positions. So you've got a
d H when he's healthy, whatever that is day to day.
So what everyday player are you going to go get
that would make that could turn it be a star here,
but you'd have to give up a whole bunch to
get him. So, yes, you'd like one of those guys,
but where's he gonna play? What are you gonna have
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to give you? So if you go get a star,
does that mean Dezenzo and Wit come in somebody and
two other players do? Regardless of where you get the star,
you're gonna have to give those guys up. Are you
willing to do that? Now? Are you saying?
Speaker 7 (01:21:47):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
So if you're gonna just go get a warm body,
you've got a few of those. Du Bond's versatile. I
mean you you've got players. It's pitching because in truth,
unless you're willing to give up a lot to get
a star player somewhere, and it's hard to get star
players then, and where's where's.
Speaker 7 (01:22:03):
He gonna start?
Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
And starting right field, not starting the center field and
starting a third base. The good first base and are
hard to come. You ain't going to get to get them.
So where are you going to get them, So, yes, pitching,
or you're gonna have to give up a lot to
get that star guy who under contract and he's underperforming
somewhere and you get him here. That's great and fine
and dandy. But to get a guy like that, you're
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gonna have to give up a lot, And in order to
keep your guys, you're gonna have to do it the
right way without mortgaging your future.
Speaker 5 (01:22:34):
Well, the need is defined. I don't think there's any
doubt about that. And it's also too you're dealing with
what actual trade chips do you have to be able
to get said need, So I don't necessarily think that
a second addition to the house can be made here.
Brian sheen Up, Brandon, see you guys. We'll get you
guys involved here in the eight o'clock hour. Also to
Chris Gordy normally joins us on Thursdays at nine o'clock.
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Today is going to join us at eight thirty. So
we'll get into the third hour of the show right here.
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the conversation we were just having here to close out
our number two. We'll fire it up again with Brian
in Paarland. Good morning, Brian, morning guys. Hey real quick.
Speaker 9 (01:25:45):
I know the you guys are talking Brendan Rodgers before
the break, and I know you got if you need
a left handed bat I just looked at him.
Speaker 16 (01:25:53):
I know he's not blazing trailby. Do have I think
Lewiski or man.
Speaker 6 (01:25:57):
Down there who could be another.
Speaker 9 (01:25:59):
Utility if you wanted to put you know, do bond
in more permanently or spread him around a little bit
more to give guys days off. And then you also
got Bryce Matthews, who I think is bat in two
fifty two sixty and who was supposed to be one
of your stars of the future, and yet you yet
to call him up. So I'd be curious to maybe
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bring up those guys. But doesn't Britain and Rodgers have
an opt out himself, like a June first opt out
or something like. I know you had a like three
opt outs in this contract. It was a weird way
it was written, but I think he had like three
three different opt outs after spring training May first and
June first. Maybe that he could opt out himself and
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still get paid, but you know, I don't know if
he would.
Speaker 5 (01:26:44):
If he would take that.
Speaker 9 (01:26:45):
But you also got to find a way to keep
Carotenis bat in the lineup, and you know, maybe he
gets to start the next couple of days if you're
gonna give Christian Walker a little bit of a breather
at first, But it's hard to get that bat out
of the lineup when he's when he's as effective from
both sides of the plate as he is. And you
got to assume at some point you're gonna get your
on back and you're hoping whatever the ailment was that
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he had is gonna hopefully lead to an increased average
when he comes back, and at least having that fear
in the lineup. So I mean, you got options at
Triple A. Why they're sitting there and and Dan, I
know you had poster. You guys have posted something about
Charlie Morton on X.
Speaker 16 (01:27:23):
I'd be I'd love to think it'd be a great deal.
He's making what fifteen million kids find a way, I
guess to work out that money situation. But I think
for the rest of the year he'd be perfect here.
Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
You know, we can at least.
Speaker 16 (01:27:36):
Get you into the fifth inning, sixth inting at look
at the status with Baltimore, but I'm sure he wants
to get out of there.
Speaker 5 (01:27:42):
But for the rest of yeah year. Yeah, Brian, you're
breaking up a little bit there. Appreciate it. With h
With Rogers, his opt outs were at the end of
spring training past that same deal with me the first
in June one. He's not opting out of his deal.
I mean he's got would you right?
Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Why would you?
Speaker 5 (01:28:00):
You've got two million on the books for you right now?
If they keep you on the roster, don't make their
job easier for them. In that case, it's one of
those if you're Brendan Rodgers, you want me out of here,
You're the one that's got to get me out of here,
not myself.
Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Well, not only that, I would Brinton Rogers has some pride.
Speaker 7 (01:28:18):
I mean, you're getting paid.
Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
You you don't want to waltz in here and say, well,
I'm getting paid, but let mean, let me opt out
of this thing.
Speaker 7 (01:28:26):
Don't you want this to work?
Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
You're in a good organization with a championship caliber team,
with a good group of players, good dudes, and you
don't want it. Well, it didn't work the first couple
of months, So I guess what, I'm fifty five games,
so it's time for me to top down in Bolt Why?
And I wouldn't imagine no disrespect. There's a long line
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of people standing waiting for him to come join them.
Correct for for production matters.
Speaker 7 (01:28:54):
Correct absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
I don't think I get the idea of what he
was saying, But I would think that Brendon Rodgers gonna
wants this to work, and wants to be playing more
and wants to be productive and wants to be all
a part of it. I don't think we're in danger
of him wanting to get out right now? Well, and
why would you?
Speaker 5 (01:29:15):
And he brought up gill Or May Giormey is a
light hitting second baseman and he also can play other positions.
But I just don't really feel like if if that's
somewhere that you would go, well, then you're better off
keeping Brendan Rodgers. And yes, things have started to pick
up a little bit after the concussion for Bryce Matthews.
But you also wonder if they feel like another year
of seasoning is in the cards for him and then
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next year having a chance to make it out of
spring training. Only time will tell on that. Sheena and Sugarland,
Good morning, Sheena, Hi, good morning.
Speaker 12 (01:29:48):
So first I want to get to the Brendan Rodgers,
but I probably missed y'all talked about this earlier. I
wanted to just call out how amazing my Colors was yesterday.
You know, I was watching both game cast and and
the game and just the pitches that were sworn at
six inches out outside the zone chasing and then even that,
you know he misses with a high fastball in and
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they strike out because they're expecting it to break. You know,
just amazing production, amazing game from him yesterday. Do want
to talk about the Brendan Rodgers conversation, you know with
the one caller earlier that about Dubon being a utility player,
when you Dubon is raking like he has been. You know,
(01:30:31):
he's got I think a little bit of a hitch
streak going, but he's been very strong to pass like
three series at least.
Speaker 5 (01:30:38):
You're going to keep him in the game.
Speaker 12 (01:30:39):
You're not going to wait for somebody to need a
rest day or somebody to be injured to get him
in there.
Speaker 5 (01:30:44):
You're going to find a way to keep him in
right now.
Speaker 12 (01:30:46):
Second base is that place, because you got Jake Myers
has been swaying good back, camp Smith has been swaying
good back. Dezens has been swinging a pretty good back.
McCormick's been picking up some and showing some really good swings.
So second basis where you're putting Dubon. I would hate to,
you know, dfa Rogers right now, because Dubon is still
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your utility guy. You know, Penya gets hurt, Brettis gets hurt.
You know, he's the guy that you need to go
in and fill those positions, and then you need to
have your second basement. And having a veteran guy on
the team as opposed to another call up from from Sugarland,
I think is also important. We don't know what type
of you know, support and help to the team that
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Rogers is given off the field as that veteran presence
as well, So I think that's something that you know
to consider here. Shay Whitcomb, I believe was Raking last
year in Triple A and we brought him up. I
think he played about twenty games, hit about two twenty
and made some defensive errors and misplays as well. So
I'm not crazy confident about just bringing him up right
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now either, Just go on it.
Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
Yeah, great point in the stability gives you defensively is
something that I think that they that it matters to them.
And you're right if somebody else sort to go down
and you have to move Dubon to be permanent at
that position. And with that, there's one thing about a
utility player that I know, the ben Zebras of the world,
you know what they want to do. They don't want
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to be a utility player. They want to play every day, right,
they want to play it there. But they do their
utility because they're versatile and valuable and that they're they've
been able to master it and elevate their game to
another level because you can stick them at you know,
five different positions, which is great as as every single
one of us have played little league or played football
or basketball. The more you can do parents, the more
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you can do, the more you can do it makes
you more valuable. What value you bring it well, Dubon
brings value because I can stick them anywhere quite frankly
on the field, and he can play it in the sands,
catcher it, he can, he can survive it. So there
is a there, there is a luxury and versatility. But
if you ask Devan Dubon, if he's every day player,
what do you think he's saying? Damn right, I am right.
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And if he's earned the everyday spot at second base
and somebody else is going to have to fill in,
or he stays there untell if you were to have
somebody get hurt for two weeks, then he can go
back to being that versaal guy and going handling their position.
That's the luxury of being talented and being good enough
to be able to move around. But forevery utility. Get
Ben Zobrist all the years he was doing it, Zobras
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wanted it. There's no you would like to lock in
and play a position every day. Now playing every day
at a different position, still playing every day. But we all
want our secure home where we get that's my place,
and I would imagine Dubon's the same way.
Speaker 7 (01:33:38):
But because he's a great team player.
Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
But yeah, while you have versatility and you have depth
at second base. Now you're an injury away and Dubon
having to move for you not having the depth or
production at that position you want, because then you're putting
out two v there full time and not playing any
left field. I mean, so you're moving things around. It's
great to have a versatile Swiss Army knife. That Swiss
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Army Knife usually wants to play every day, don't we all?
But the Rogers luxury of I don't have to train anybody,
even though the guy's bat struggle and I know what
I'm going to get from him at second base would
probably prevent me from DF and the guy.
Speaker 5 (01:34:15):
As well well. Fair point, But I mean it's also
I've got to be able to count on the guy
with the bat, and for right now, what I'm seeing
with him at the plate, it's not something that I
can count on.
Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
Yeah, but think about it, go back before Jake Myers.
Is this Jake Myers the way he's hiding if he
hits two ten, Guess who's playing center field every day?
Jake Myers, Sure so. And they've said that it doesn't matter.
And Steve Sparks admitted as much on our show when
he said, I don't care if the guy hits sub
two hundred. If Jake he's playing, it's a luxury. If
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he's hitting two thirty, right, And there's just certain positions.
So maybe Brendan Rodgers becomes that guy. But you can't
have four of those guys because then you're limited. Then
your production's in trouble. That's the problem. Well, Jake, Jake
is hitting you know, ho around three hundred to ninety
to three hundred right now, So that's a good thing.
So the second base production, you're not going to get
nine guys all hitting it once when you do talk
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about luxury. So yeah, you just don't want five guys
that are hovering around two ten or two fifty. But
Jake's elevated his play, and I would imagine Rogers feels
like he can too, with with you know, more and
more and more at bats. But there are certain guys
you're going to keep around not just for their bat,
but for a presence, and that provides you some security,
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even knowing you don't have to babysit them every day,
and I think that's important to some.
Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
Well, it's just also too I want all nine guys
if ideal to basically I can count on with the bat,
and I mean you shorten your lineup to about seven
guys that you can pretty much count on, well, then
you're shortening your chance.
Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
But isn't that really But isn't Dan, isn't that really
what we go through anyway? For sure, not here but everywhere. Right,
you'd love to have nine, and you'll get nine. And
you know when you score twelve runs in a game
or eleven runs, and you would you'll get that. But
in truth, most teams games, even the good, even the Dodgers,
have their struggles at times at the bottom of the order,
at times the bottle order, their talents enough where their
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ninth guy could hit second. I get it. But for
the most part, everybody in the league's complaining about I
wish we had nine of them, but were playing with
the six man hitting lineup and the other three got
to pick it up. I get it. And but you
don't want you don't want them to be the case
all season long.
Speaker 7 (01:36:21):
There's no doubt, no.
Speaker 5 (01:36:22):
Perfect player, no doubt about that. What about the guys
that aren't with the team right now? And Dana Brown
joins us every single week here on the show, let's
discuss some things that were talked about yesterday here on
the Shawn Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety of this
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Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
Nine Lance callers.
Speaker 7 (01:36:48):
How about the performance.
Speaker 5 (01:36:50):
Your home for Houston Astros baseball. But Sean, something that
we've talked about and once you revisit again as yesterday
and of course Wednesday here on the show, we have
Dana Brown joining us every single Wednesday at nine thirty,
and a couple of guys in particular were brought up
with Dana during the discussion and first and foremost we
(01:37:12):
wrapped up the conversation at about nine to fifty. About
forty minutes later, the release came out that elbow surgery
done for the year. Expect him back next year. But
you asked Dana Brown before that information was released about
Renelle Blanco and this was his answer.
Speaker 1 (01:37:29):
Yeah, Blanco had.
Speaker 11 (01:37:30):
The second prit, second prit, second prit, second prit, second prit,
second prit, second prit, second prit, second prit, second prit
in And we're going to talk to the doctor at
some point this afternoon, but he had this second opinion,
and we'll have an update probably uh at the end
of the game today since we have a day game.
Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
So there you go. Well, all of that came before
that happened, Sean, and you asked him the question, and
he decided to answer it the way that he did.
Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
Yeah, was all that was that on purpose? The way
we went to his second opinion, That was pretty clever.
Speaker 5 (01:38:04):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
It was a a in the system.
Speaker 5 (01:38:09):
Yeah, I was gonna say it was a timely coincidence.
Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
I guess, Yeah, we have worked.
Speaker 7 (01:38:15):
I mean it was classic.
Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Yeah. Well the only thing I can deduct from what
we were told at nine five and what came about
an hour later instead of after the game later in
the afternoon talk to the doctor that they knew when
he was on the air that Renelle Blanco has done
for the year and decided not to say it until
more people were around, and when they decided to say it,
(01:38:39):
which I don't get our show or somewhere else. I mean,
we are one show. He does regularly love Dana Brown,
always transparent, but yesterday we might have missed the mark
on a little transparency.
Speaker 11 (01:38:53):
Four.
Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
He's is out of the loop. And it's hard for
me to believe that a gentleman manager is at a
loop on injuries of key players, let alone everybody. So yeah,
I just You're going to get asked questions and I'm
going to continue to ask him, and I it makes
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you validate the disdain fans have and media have for
the way you're talked about injuries. Remember Kyle Tucker had
a Bruce shin for seventy plus games, but it was
fractured and we knew it the first week and it
took them, you know, fifty games or sixty games to
tell us. But no problem, it's never personal. That it
(01:39:39):
also does is now that when somebody gives me an
answer at nine p thirty on Wednesdays, when Danny does
about an injury, that won't be enough. I will if
I'm not a softball guy when it comes to asking questions,
and I won't be. And now it just means that,
I mean, now just kind of have to dive deeper.
So when you tell me, well, it's day to day,
(01:39:59):
I don't know what that means. They're gonna tell me
we're going to do it this afternoon. I'm My next
question is going to be this afternoon meeting one o'clock,
this afternoon meeting eleven forty five. Is that the morning
or this afternoon meaning five o'clock is the dinner times?
Speaker 7 (01:40:13):
At lunchtime? Is at post breakfast?
Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
That that's where I'll be going because you know you
asked the question if you knew Ronel Blanco was out
for the season, because I sure didn't fit the timeframe.
We're going to find out after the game. We'll talk
to the doctor. And before the game even started we
had the news that Ronew.
Speaker 7 (01:40:32):
Blanco was out.
Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
Yeah, so softball questions won't be asked, never have been
by me and never will be. And now it just
it just makes you realize why you know you ask
hard hitting questions, and now the the I won't be satisfied. Well,
they can do whatever they want with their answer, but
just to tell me that we're going to talk about
it later won't be enough. Now it just won't. So
(01:40:56):
team fan here when it comes to the disdain for
and I understand protecting your players, I do, but I
don't know where the protection came in forty five minutes later,
when you could have simply just said yeah, it looks
like we may be losing for the season. We're going
to try to validate that at some point today. Hopefully
we're wrong, but that's what it looks like. And then
you know, so if you know the answer and you
(01:41:17):
get asked the question and you're a weekly visitor, probably
pretty simple to answer it. But everybody has their way
of going about it. But it's just if you thought
you got hit between the eyes with hardcore questions before this.
It will continue and I may not get the answers
I want to hear, but by the time fifteen minutes
(01:41:39):
is over, it'll be exhausting because I will probe as
deep as I possibly can to get answers for fans.
That's my job, and I will continue to ask them well.
Speaker 5 (01:41:48):
And you know, there was another part of this too,
which we played audio earlier about Spencer Arraghetti, where Dana
led it to us to believe that the splint cast
whatever he still had on his thumbs still there and
go and started throwing program next week. Well then we
came to find out that he played catch on Tuesday
and addressed the media yesterday. Spencer Raghetti that.
Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
Is, yeah, I don't even know how to respond to that.
Dan other than it's it's I don't get it, and
I don't know what the big secret is. I understand
if somebody gets hurt the very first day and we
don't know because we haven't had MRI or results. But
I almost feel at times the fans that were ahead
(01:42:29):
of them on knowing the decision before they announce it.
Just like with Kyle Tucker, there was no way on
God's green Earth, any normal human being that has any
kind of one ounce of toughness misses seventy plus games
with a bone bruise a contusion. Okay, hockey players don't
(01:42:53):
miss five minutes because of a contusion. So we knew
it all along and said it, and sixty games later
validated on the fact that, of course it's a fracture.
It's not a bone bruise. It's a fracture. So yeah,
I mean, hey, you can approach anyway. But I love
having love our Wednesdays.
Speaker 7 (01:43:11):
They love them.
Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
But when it comes to injuries, if you thought you
were pressed before that, it's gonna you may have to
just say no comment by the time I'm done with
these interviews now, because if you know Ronel Blanco was
going to miss and forty minutes later you decided to
say it after you left the show. Then I don't understand,
but I don't have to, and nor do they have
(01:43:34):
to explain it to me. But they nor do I
have to explain why My questions are going to be
just as hard hitting between the eyes as they've always been.
But just if I got to keep them over time,
that's exactly what I'll do to get the answers. But
or do I Am I supposed to come up with
a deduction that? Man, how's the general manager not know
(01:43:56):
that Renelle Blanco's done for the year? But he did
it ten What am I missing here?
Speaker 5 (01:44:02):
All right?
Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
And Dana is too dialed in not to know? So
I guess you chose to wait to tell people Blanco
was done, But you were asked the question. And that's
all we can do is ask. But I'll ask eight
times if that's what it takes. So and you'll have
to put a muscle on me, and that still won't
stop me. So and regardless, So, Peter, if you don't
(01:44:23):
like tough questions, I'm the wrong guy to come on with.
Speaker 5 (01:44:25):
Well, that's our job is to ask questions and try
to get answers to the audience. I mean, that's why
we're here, and that's what people want to know when
it comes to this team, especially with some of the
topics that we've touched on with him in recent weeks.
And we'll continue to do that. Speaking of touching on topics,
we're gonna do that next our Thursday visit with the
Gordatron Chris Gordy, Cursey a Carbock Brewing. That's next right here,
(01:44:46):
Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 10 (01:44:49):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (01:44:53):
It's courtesy of Carbock Brewing with the Gordatron Chris Gordy
joining us as Gordy. A lot of good things that
talk about with this Astros team. Let's start first with
yesterday's win. How about Victor Carrottini.
Speaker 6 (01:45:07):
You are just determined to make a Gorda tron a
thing that nobody else is making a thing. But I digress, Dan.
Speaker 5 (01:45:14):
We'll get there, We'll get there. It'll it'll wash over
you and everybody else.
Speaker 6 (01:45:19):
I just to think anybody, no, nobody, nobody's gonna make
fetch happen. Man. But the uh no, you you mentioned Karatini.
Speaker 12 (01:45:26):
Man.
Speaker 6 (01:45:27):
It's what's been so fun with this lineup, has been
seeing all these numbers start to creep up the last week.
I mean, we saw, you know, Jeremy Pange has been
batting right about three hundred. He's been your best hitter.
You know, Jake Myers still batting around two ninety three.
That's great. But to see Karatini come up to two eighty,
to see Maurice Yo Dubaun come up to two seventy six,
(01:45:49):
even Josel Tuve, you know he's been in two sixty seven.
Now do you guys realize a week ago he was
batting two thirty eight. In the last seven days t
is not one but two home run games, and since
last Tuesday he's got fourteen hits. I mean, that's just
it's insane. You know, they say hits coming bunches. But
(01:46:11):
that's what's been so crazy to see is that this
lineup just as a whole. All it took was playing
a series, a four game series against Seattle and then
playing a two game series against the Aids, and all
these batting averages have dramatically improved in the past week.
But Victor Kartini, you see why, He's a guy that
even when yannar Diez is catching, they're deaching him a
lot because they like his bats so much they want
(01:46:33):
to keep it in the line up.
Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
Gordy, we're about a third of the way through the season.
Do you believe this is a World Series team?
Speaker 6 (01:46:41):
Lord, It's so hard to say that because for a
World Series team, you feel like you got to have
at least four reliable arms, and right now you really
only have two. When you get Spencer Getti back, that
will help.
Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
We'll see.
Speaker 6 (01:46:54):
On Luis Garcia. It's nothing against mccolors, and he was
great yesterday and that was a huge step forward for him.
And Ryan Gusta and Colet and Gordon have certainly done
their best job so far. But I again to say
it's a World Series team, I just I don't have
the faith and the pitching staff right now. You know,
Hunter and brand and from Ravaldez are certainly good enough.
(01:47:14):
But you know, in the offense, I think will come
around and get a lot better, you know, even better
when Jordan Alvaree gets back in there. But I think
the whole you know, the expectations kind of changed here Sean.
The last year or so, it used to be we
would say is this a World Series team? I think
now you look at it and say is this is
this a playoff team that can make a run? And
(01:47:35):
I think that's how you kind of have to pivot it,
say well, yeah, this is certainly a team that could
you know, win this division, get in the playoffs. And
as we know, teams get hot. I mean, go look
at the Atlanta Braves a couple of years ago, the
Washington Nationals teams that got hot at the right time
and made a run. Right now on May twenty ninth,
this doesn't look like a World Series team, but certainly
(01:47:57):
if they put some things together and they're clicking at
the right time going from September into October, yeah, absolutely,
this team is is a team that could could make
it deeper up.
Speaker 1 (01:48:06):
You saw how they did without Kyle Tucker last year,
played pretty damn good baseball. But if the yord On
thing is one of those things that just kind of
lingers throughout the year? Did did he plays a little
hurt and a little disc It's uncomfortable and he's not
the the yordon we've had in the past. Just this year,
what is that now? I'll ask you, is this team, uh,
(01:48:28):
do they have the ability to make a run?
Speaker 6 (01:48:32):
Well, I think if It's if Christian Walker is pulling
his weight and starting to improve, and he's crushing bombs
east Okparatus continues to do his thing and hitting home
runs al Tuo, but it gets back to playing like
an MVP player like he's been playing the last week. Yeah,
I think I think this team can overcome a a
yord On Alvarez, uh, you know, not explosive performance. Now
(01:48:56):
he's gonna have to produce something. You know, he can't
just be an over five with three strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
Every night in the lineup.
Speaker 6 (01:49:01):
But you know, I do think that there are other
guys on this team who could pick him up. But yeah,
it's I mean no doubt. We knew he was gonna
be a loss, losing you know, Alex Bregman and Kyle
Tucker and somebody else was gonna have to step up.
But so far, they so far, so good. Man. I mean,
Jeremy Paye is having his best statistical season, you know,
as a big leaguer, So that is a nice surprise.
(01:49:23):
You're getting some great things out of camp Smith. Guess
does I feel like this kid is starting to figure
it out? When you look at what he's done in
the month of May, you know the season batting average
is up to two sixty one, but Man has been
He's been one of your hottest hitters so far this
month at three thirteen. So if he continues to figure
it out, if Jake Myers continues doing what he's doing, yeah,
(01:49:44):
I think this team could overcome not having Jodan Alvarez
be the centerpiece. But it would certainly help if he could.
If he could get back here and he's, you know,
back to being one of the most feared hitters in baseball,
it's only gonna make him that much more dangerous.
Speaker 5 (01:49:56):
Chris Gordy again join us for his weekly visit courtesy
at Carback bro here on the Sean Salisbury Show, and Gordy,
I threw out a name earlier when you start looking
at pitching options that are out there for this team.
Last time out on the mound, Charlie Morton's six innings
against the Cardinals a little bit of a slow star
for him this season, still on a fifteen million dollar
deal for one more year. I get where the Astros
(01:50:18):
are with the CBT, but if that is a possibility
for you, if you're Dana Brown, do you do it?
Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
Man?
Speaker 6 (01:50:26):
I'd rather I'd rather make a move in all honestly,
I'd rather bring verlanderback on a on a half a
year rental than going again into Charlie Morton. I just
I just wonder if he shit that that proverbial wall.
I know he's had some decent starts as of late,
but still on the season a record of one and
seven and any over nine. He's forty one years old,
(01:50:49):
he's had some some you know, history of injuries. I
just I don't know if that's the guy. I know
that the sentimental attachment, you know, with fans and being
a part of that World Series team and all that.
But I think I think if they were to make
a move for a veteran arm out there, I think
there are some other names they would look at, but
uh yeah, and they have no you know, they've shown
(01:51:10):
no propensity to want to add guys that have future.
Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
Money on the books.
Speaker 6 (01:51:16):
You know a lot of times you look at Kakuchi
last year. They made that move knowing it was a
half year rental. So I would almost say, if they
were to make a move for a veteran arm, that
would be the move to bring in a guy that's
you know, gonna be a free agent at the end
of this year, that that won't cost a ton of money,
that could just come in and help me eat up innings.
I think that's what they'd be looking at. I don't
think they'd be looking at a guy to be, you know,
(01:51:37):
a number one or number two arm in the rotation.
I think they would just be looking at a body
to help come in and eat up some innings. Whereas
you know, right now you're looking at Ryan Gusto and
Colton Gordon saying, guys, we're gonna have We're gonna ask
you to pitch more innings than you've ever pitched in
your career. I just think that's a tough ass for
the rookies.
Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
So you do believe that there's a body outside of
the organization that they're going to have to go get pitching.
Speaker 6 (01:51:59):
Wise, Uh yeah, I think he almost have to. I mean,
I just because the odds are guys. Uh, here's the secret.
Hunter Brown's gonna get banged up at some point from
Arvalda is gonna be get banged out, like one of
those guys is gonna miss miss a starter or two
or miss you know, So, I mean, just relying on
those guys, Hey, you better stay healthy. We have no
margin for error here. I mean when I saw Christian
(01:52:21):
Walker get hit on the hands yesterday, I said, my God, like,
if he misses time, I don't know how much more,
how many more injuries this team can overcome, uh to
sustain the success, But certainly on the pitching side of things.
I mean, they there's a void there right now. Again,
nobody's saying anything because Gusta and Colton Born have been okay.
But let's say both those guys just go out there
(01:52:43):
and they're getting given up eight er and runs an outing.
I mean, then you're going back into the farm system
and going, all right, who else is down here? Who
wants the aj blueball you get up here? I just
think that's a tough ass for a team with postseason
aspirations to keep dipping down to the Triple A and
grabbing the next young arm.
Speaker 5 (01:53:00):
Well, go to this homestand has been awesome for the Astros.
They get four more chances to make it even more awesome.
Five and one so far. But for Astros fans, I'm
sure they're looking for an undefeated record, especially with a
Carbock browing Crawford Bach in their hands.
Speaker 6 (01:53:16):
Yeah, we were out at Carbach last night and it
was you know, it's a lot of fun hanging out
with some of our listeners came out to see us
and enjoying ice cool Crawford Bach. You know, paris perfectly
with Astros baseball, and I don't know, sometimes it just
tastes even better when you're there at the source at Carbok.
Where are you getting it right on tap in house
where they make it. And make sure you guys watch
(01:53:36):
An the Astros this weekend. If you're at the ballpark
or listening on the radio at home, make sure you
have some Crawford Bock in the fridge. And like we said,
goes perfectly with Astros baseball. And hey just feels like
every time you have a Crawford Bock the askers seemed
to win that game that day. So grab you one
today and let's go.
Speaker 5 (01:53:53):
Astros can argue with that. Thanks going to Sean, Thank
you good. I appreciate Chris already joined us for his
weekly two visits the Thursday one here on the Sean
Salisbury Show, we'll continue the Astros conversation because somebody I
brought up during our conversation with Gordy is somebody that is,
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Speaker 7 (01:56:28):
Get back at it.
Speaker 5 (01:56:31):
But especially with the work that he is putting together
this year after the work that he did last year,
it's almost coming to a point where you got runners
on and he's in that left handed batter's box. You're
counting on Victor Carrattini to come through.
Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
Oh. I don't think there's any question. I think he's underrated.
An important piece is any team to a guy who's
not your everyday player, but he feels like he should be.
I believe the guy's a starter in Major League Baseball.
I do. It's a luxury to have two of them
(01:57:05):
that can play. We know what Yainar diaz Is future
looks like pretty damn good, and his presence pretty good.
He still just hasn't got rolling yet. But that's what
the other guy's job is to do, is when you
need him to go in there and deliver. Some guys
are in that position, they deliver once in a while.
It feels to me like Keratinis that delivers all the time.
(01:57:26):
And let's not forget that behind the plate. He can,
he's a calming effect. He gets it. There's nothing he
doesn't do well he did, There's not a glaring weakness
in his game. I just I'm so impressed with him.
That's a guy who is stuck behind a young, big
time prospect, who's a player at catcher, who is growing
(01:57:47):
defensively and obviously offensively, has a twenty five ninety type
guy in in Yinar Diaz. I think Victor quarantine Victor
Carratini is a starter on quite a few other teams
in this league. I think he's I think his value
is not only recognizable, but I think he's one of
(01:58:07):
those guys. If you said, oh, we got a planthorugh
of catchers, we don't need him that, there would be
teams standing in line to grab him. Firstat ale at
the plate, delivers and he can deliver at first base,
he can deliver at DH and he can deliver a
catcher underrated. I know our guy Dubon gets a lot
of the credit for being that Swiss army, and I
think rightfully so. But I can tell you what, when
(01:58:28):
you're looking for a guy to come off the bench
and be clutch, I'm not sure Victor Karattini isn't isn't
a guy that you say I can I can win
a lot of games with him.
Speaker 5 (01:58:38):
He's he's impressive, and he's also been a guy that
you've kuinted on a lot more behind the plate as
of recent times because of what you're not getting offensively
out of Yanner Diaz. You saw that yesterday Yner had
to come in a little bit later on the game
as a pinch hitter and you were able to put
him behind the plate and put Keratini over at first
when you had to lift Christian Walker with.
Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
You think there's ever a time that Diaz isn't a
full time catcher, that he's a full time other position guy.
Speaker 5 (01:59:10):
Possibly, but he's got to get better at first base
if that's going to happen, because no doubt.
Speaker 7 (01:59:14):
Defensively, there's no question.
Speaker 5 (01:59:16):
Yeah, I mean, because DH has spoken for at least
until twenty twenty nine. And I mean you do have
future plans, I would guess, because you drafted him in
the first round for Walker Yannick. At some point.
Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
Yeah, I just and I think he'll develop into I mean,
it's just the bad He's going to be a really
good player and you know, we know how the organization
holds him higher guard. I just always wonder at that
position where the comfort level is. But right now the
versatility goes where Kartini can go over there and play
and you can put Yordas back behind the plate. He's
a catcher and he'll be a damn good one. But
(01:59:50):
for him, it's just got to get his his uh,
you know, his bearing straight at the plate where he's
more consistent. But we know what he brings. But Karatini,
it's not like when you go to the ball game
and you say, we're going to give Yuyaner a day off. Man,
I hope it works out. You don't have to worry
about that when you throw Caroteni in the lineup here.
As a matter of fact, you're saying, right now, we
(02:00:11):
don't lose anything we got. We've got a guy who's
got some good veteran leadership and who produces. He's not
just a body, a warm body that you throw in there.
You expect him to produce. And I'll be damned, it
seems like every time I turn around, he's getting a
hit that matters. It's weird, and maybe I'm overstating it,
but it feels like that to me when I watch him,
(02:00:31):
I'm pretty confident. I'm pretty confident that he's going to
have a good at bat whatever that results.
Speaker 5 (02:00:35):
In, no question, and especially during this homestand he's knocked
in four runs and also had a three hit, one hit,
and two hit performance during the astros recent winning ways
where they have won five of the six games they've
played so far during this home stand at dyke In Park,
Jim in Most City wants to weigh in.
Speaker 14 (02:00:54):
Good morning, Jim, Yeah, Hey, guys wanted to uh, I
wanted to talk touch base on the Astros and a
couple of comments about the I guess trading four pitchers
probably the route that they're gonna have to go.
Speaker 17 (02:01:09):
If they wanted a bat, they would probably just go
and call up Melton or Bryce Matthews. I think they're
gonna have to get a starting pitcher to it to
do to get where we want to get. And then
you guys were talking about the injuries and as much
as we all want to know when these players are
gonna come back, is it nothing more than Dana just
(02:01:31):
doesn't want to show his hand because we're all interested
and I'm sure every other GM in the league is
interested in what the true state of the world is
on the Astros, because if he tells too much, then
he might be weakening his position and trade talks and
so forth. So I'm wondering if it's just, you know,
he's he's gonna tell us the bare minimum, not because
he doesn't want to tell.
Speaker 5 (02:01:50):
Us as fans.
Speaker 17 (02:01:51):
More, it's just he can't don't want to show his hand,
you know, as a GM, because everyone else is listening,
that's on the other end of a trade talk.
Speaker 5 (02:02:00):
So that was just my feedback. Thanks Jim.
Speaker 1 (02:02:02):
Yeah, Jim, I'm sure that that always, you know, always
trying to have your best leverage and bargaining position on
your side. But in the RENW. Blanco case from yesterday,
there was that there was no trade or anything involved.
It was just simply got to ask the question. Decided
to wait forty five for men that I mean, I
don't know, I mean, was there a time frame that
(02:02:25):
they are not for you, Jim, but for them. It's
like when you ask the question at nine point fifty,
what's for now, Blanco? How is he? And it's like, well,
we're going to talk later after the game with the doctors.
The second opinion and then within an hour he's on
the shelf and out for the year. Having Tommy John
Yeah that I don't think that was to guard against
worrying about what other general managers and organizations think about
(02:02:47):
a trade. But maybe that's just etched in their DNA
that we're going to overprotect talk less, same minimal hope
that we get him back and we're just going to
keep giving the pad answer, which is what they do
in a lot of cases. With jord On, they put
it in his lap, with Blanc always out. But I
guess the frustration for us is you had it, I
mean to let people know, and I would imagine for
(02:03:09):
fans and media, is that what happened in forty five
minutes to change your opinion or to change your timeline yesterday?
There wasn't either Either you were out of a loop,
which I can't fathom, or you just chose to did
you do? You really didn't say what you believed about
the Renel Blanco situation yesterday. I don't know what. I
(02:03:31):
don't know how else to deduct it, and I'd sure
hate for being able to get for to go up
there and have to talk about today saying well, you
know what, maybe the GM's not in tuned with what's
going on in the rest of the organization. The GM
should have a finger on the pulse of everything that
goes on, and I'm assuming Dana does that.
Speaker 7 (02:03:48):
He's pretty transparent.
Speaker 1 (02:03:49):
I love our visits, but doesn't mean I have to
agree with everything he says or or the way they
go about it. And I sure as hell didn't agree
with the way we got the answer from Blanco and
within an hour, not after the game, not later on,
within an hour, we were told that renew Blanco was
done for the year. Had that opportunity at nine five.
What change between ninety five and ten forty five yesterday.
(02:04:12):
I'm not sure, but Jim, I think there is. As
the season goes on close to the deadline, sure people
are going to protect their you know, try try try
to be as as the protective as you can so
other teams you don't devalue your trade opportunities. This had
nothing to do with that. This was just a simple,
(02:04:32):
cut and dry question and a cut and dry answer.
But I guess it wasn't as cut and dry as
we thought.
Speaker 5 (02:04:38):
Well, and it's also two trade secrets. Teams know who's
healthy and available, and teams know who they want to
be interested in or who could possibly be out there.
So I don't think that has really.
Speaker 1 (02:04:47):
Well, I'm not trading for him if they don't pass
the physical anyway. So it's a mood point there you go,
and trying to hide that.
Speaker 5 (02:04:53):
Stuff for sure, for sure, Charlie, Anthony Brandon, see you
guys right there. We'll get you guys involved. Hour number
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Five games over the Minnesota Timberwolves, the Pacers trying to
close out the next tonight, Game five of the Eastern
Conference Finals, and the Texans back on the OTA practice field.
A little bit of Texans conversation coming up in this,
but the Astros are the top of you guys want
to join it in on it right now and you
can do so se one three, two one two five
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seven ninety. Let's keep it going with Charlie in Metarie
wants the weigh in here. Charlie, good morning, Good morning guys.
Speaker 18 (02:06:14):
I first want to say I really enjoy the program.
You guys are really informative.
Speaker 15 (02:06:19):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (02:06:19):
My question, Sean is.
Speaker 18 (02:06:23):
I know for a fact that in the Superdome there
are two guys that take X rays for all the ballgames,
for the Saints games. So I assume that the Astros
have something like that within the stadium and they can
get instant results just forward of those digital pictures to
us to their doctor team doctor. But really, as Damer,
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has your dying gone to a hand surgeon? Not just
the primary care guy, but is he going to a
hand surgeon? And what was that guy's diagnosis? He's hiding stuff,
just like they hid in top injury. So I think
you could back them into a corner and try to
get some more concrete information on the injury.
Speaker 5 (02:07:10):
I know they like they have to hide.
Speaker 18 (02:07:11):
Stuff, but come on, you know you've got thousands of
fans that pay for tickets and stuff to go to games,
So it's an honor system to me.
Speaker 1 (02:07:21):
Yeah, oh, we appreciate the compliment. And I dived Charlie
as deep as I can, you know, short of asking
what the doctor's name and where we can go, because
that's that starts to get into hippolaws right where they're
not going to give that information. But you know you
can keep asking and keep asking, and I think that
in this case. And yes, X ray machines are usually
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in ballparks or you know, close by, but when it
comes to like a Renel Blanco in his situation, X
rays aren't enough. I trust me. I've got an ankle
that needs fuse together. You can go get an extra
that and tell them enough. So you've got to get
in an MRI machine. There's much deeper dive the x
rays were back when you and I were growing up. Now,
the x rays to tell you if something's wrong. The
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MRI's to dive deeper when it comes to Jordon, so
they they that stuff and you got to wait till
swelling goes down. All that with Jordon. Listen, I mean
I've asked him, and you make a good point. Yes,
you put him on the spot to a point of okay,
how much how much deeper. Can you go other than
we're now to the point of Joe Spot and Dana Brown.
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It is on Jordon. It's him, it's his threshold of pain.
So it's no longer does he got to pass the
test from the trainers? Does he have to go see
a doctor? And by the way, with Renel Blanco, whenever
a guy never goes and gets a second opinion if
the first opinion was in your favor. Ever, I've never
(02:08:47):
been oh, because you want the first peeting says you're
good to go. Hell kick good, I'm good to go.
I don't need it. Let me get to rehabit or
surgery whatever. They always go to the second Jordon win, Jordon,
Renelle Blanco went and got a second opinion. We all
should have been alarmed and should have known that this
wasn't on the good side. Going to get a second
opinion because you didn't like the answer from the first doctor.
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That's commonplace and no brainer. So we see. I mean,
I don't know if we saw full season loss coming,
but you knew a second opinion was not good news
in the case of Jordon. You know when it comes
down to especially this and you make a good point.
My man is, but the structure and soft tissue are
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two different things. Structure you can see it, torn ligaments,
you know, the hams, you can see it. But it's
a different approach than the rest and relaxation and the
things that you would do structurally for surgery. You know
you may not have to do for a soft tissue.
So yeah, with you with Jordon, I mean, now it's
taken out of it, and I've asked how long, what
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is it? How deep is it? I literally said, is
it structural? Are we sure it is soft tissue? About
three weeks ago I asked that, I said, right when
it happened, or we were about five days or so
in Dan. You remember before I left on vacation, I said,
is it soft tissue?
Speaker 7 (02:10:06):
For sure?
Speaker 12 (02:10:07):
We know?
Speaker 1 (02:10:07):
Yes, it's soft tissue. There is zero structural damage. None
was the answer. We got none. So when you give
you that, man, I get there's I don't know how
much deep you can go to say, can we go
to the doctor's office and look at the MRI ourselfs
So they have gone through when you're talking about your
prized dude, from X rays to MRIs, they have looked
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the MRI. You have to look at to find out
is it structural or is it soft tissue. You just
have to so we know they've done that part of
it and they're not going to be negligent in that.
Where the negligence, and it's not even negligent, isn't right.
Where where the lack of transparency comes in is when
they tell you this and you know it's a fracture
and sixty games later it's not a bone bruise on
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Kyle Tucker and with jord On now it's apparent that
it comes down to his threshold. Not when the trade
says he's okay, it's when Jordon feels he's been cleared.
We've seen this in sports. He's cleared to play. The
question is can he handle it? And that's where we
are and that's the only question only Jordon cauld answer. I.
(02:11:13):
I don't even think Dana Brown could answer that. And
you look and Joe Spota because it ain't the pain
on their hand. So and yes, you need your hands
to hit and it matters, but if the inflammation continues,
then they'll have to look deeper, diver the hurt. Should
we say the injury still bothers him, then they'll have
to look into it. But this has now become a
Yordon thing according to the Astros that it's just based
(02:11:33):
on him. If he wakes up today and says, I
feel great, they'll put him through a simulated game and
within a day or two he'll be playing. But that
hasn't happened yet, and who knows when it will? And
are they when the injury first happened? Do we know
if they told us everything you need to know. No,
and you're never going to get that out of a
team for the most part. But there are certain things
(02:11:54):
I just don't get the secret. Certain things with Renelle
Blanco yesterday, there is zero reason in my mind unless
you had an obligation that you're doing a national interview
they had to do ob this zero obligation in my mind,
or zero reason when you're asked the question in nine
forty five, did you say, well, we're gonna go and
and it's later this afternoon, after the game, we'll talk
(02:12:16):
and get to the doctor. He got the second opinion
when you're more than likely knew within an hour you
were going to tell the world Renel Blanco was out
for the Season's that that's my disdain When it comes
to that stuff. I don't get all the secrets. I
get the secrets early. I don't get the secrets late
when everybody knows. Second opinion, something's wrong. I think the
(02:12:36):
timing was kind of weak yesterday, and I think that
we probably could have known earlier.
Speaker 5 (02:12:40):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's certainly not for a lack
of effort of you asking the questions. I mean you
ask him, it's it's on him on how he answers
it at that point, and you bring up yord on here,
and this is something that I just can't shake. Do
you feel like this is a little bit of a
slippery slope putting this on him? Like you know, it's
it's Dana, it's Joe.
Speaker 1 (02:12:57):
Hey.
Speaker 5 (02:12:58):
You know he tells as he's good to go, Well,
then you know he's good to go. Then it's like okay,
well you know the player. How are you feeling, I mean,
do you feel like it's it's a little bit on him?
Speaker 1 (02:13:07):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (02:13:07):
Cool, not a little bit. It's all on him.
Speaker 1 (02:13:10):
But it's also the way if the organization has cleared it,
they can't he said, well we're not clear. You know,
even when they're talking about and say, well you know
they're gonna they'll get together and they'll talk about it
and converse about when he says he's ready to go.
But Joe and Dana have have said unequippcal. You can
go listen to the quotes. It's on Jordon Alvarez. So
(02:13:30):
for whatever reason, whether we think it is or not,
whether they intend it to or not, it's and I
confess it's on him. Now this takes the stress away.
It's not on our doctor, it's not on our on
our trainer, it's not on me. It's not on Joe,
it's not on the backup to the d H. It's
not on anybody. It's it's not on It's on him.
(02:13:51):
And there's yes, some will take it. It's a simple fact.
Some will take it it's I confess he did it.
The longer it takes, it's Jordon's toughness. Not are we've
been straight with this, Not that they're intended to put
it on your I don't think there's any disdain for
each other with that. But yes, it becomes a slippery
slope because now if he's out two more weeks, they
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can just we don't know what's their answer. Then right,
well you're not, because what happens the longer it goes,
you know, we see just like with Kyle Tuckery, you
know we all did. I did? I said, what kind
of professional athlete in baseball, a non contact sport unless
you're hit by the ball like he was and fouling
it off his shin? And this is I think we
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all at least question this at some point. What kind
of guy misses seventy games with a bone, bruise, a bruise,
a contusion. So there was part of us it started
to question, is Kyle tucker soft? We all did I did.
If you didn't, then you you weren't paying attention because
(02:14:55):
you know what, Like I said, I've never met a
football player who missed a game due to a contusion. Okay,
so you take a shot, you take drugs, you take
for whatever whatever it is. Whether you like the fact
that I'm saying this or not, the fact of the matter,
if we've all done it, man, I'm a little sore
dude here, take this shot or take this drug? Oh okay, cool,
Now I can play. So we start to question when
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you put it in their lap, because I'm gonna tell you,
it keeps up three more weeks. I saw it on
Twitter this morning. Trade Jordan Alvarez because he's always going
to be hurt and he's not He's not tough enough,
he doesn't care, he's not a team player. I'm paraphrase,
but those words were in Twitter this morning. So what
happens when you put it on the player? There is
that danger? And when you keep telling us last year
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with Kyle Tucker, tell you tell me, be honest with me.
Was there any point in time that you question whether
Kyle Tucker was tough? Of course you did. If you didn't,
then you were paid it. Because there's no way if
you're gonna if I get hit with the baseball today
and it's a contusions at even at my age, I
ain't missing seventy games, dude, I'm just sorry. I'm not
so to defense of Kyle Tucker. It's almost like if
(02:15:59):
you're Kyle Tucker, like, yeah, I understand, but can can
we please tell them that it's a fracture, that it
isn't a contusion, because it's starting to make me look
like I don't care and I'm not tough enough. I
don't want to be in a lineup, and that will
happen with yourd on if this is a two more
weeks away, it's already started to happen. And we know
he's tough, we know he's been banged up, but the
guy's a great player. But when you put it in
(02:16:20):
the player's lap, now the onus is off. You ain't doctors,
ain't trainers, ain't us. They ain't transparency. It's that guy.
It's his threshold of pain. And the longer the threshold
of pain can't get him on the field because he's
hand is sore. What do you think? People start to think? Yeah,
damn and I question and the first time ever Kyle
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Tucker five tool guy been durable as hell thirty games
in on a contusion. Oh you know it really hurts
when you Yeah, yeah, of course it does. But you
know what, guy's been hitting the rib cage within a
one hundred mile an hour fastball and broke a rib
that didn't miss seventy games, So you knew ten days
in this wasn't no contusion. Hell, take a shot, wrap
(02:17:05):
it up and go play. After a two games, mister,
a series seventy plus, you do damn well twenty in
that this was not anything less than a fracture or
some kind of break with jord On. They say it's
not structure. I'm believing them in the case of that,
it is one hundred percent now according to them, in
his lap, not theirs.
Speaker 5 (02:17:27):
Well, it creates a lot more questions when I don't
really think they want those questions being asked.
Speaker 1 (02:17:31):
But if we give that answer, that's the only question
that you can ask. No, absolutely, the only deduction you
can get it's on jord On. And if you the
more he misses, the more we question if his threshold
of pain's tough enough to handle it. That's what you've
created with this period.
Speaker 5 (02:17:46):
It's borrowing trouble when you didn't necessarily intend to do that.
But sometimes things happen that we don't intend to have
happened to us. All right, to Anthony Brandon, see you
guys right there, get you guys involved. Also here in
this fourth hour, I do want to get into a
little bit of Texans OTAs talk. Not a deep dive,
trust me, I promise you on that. As it is
the Shawn Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 10 (02:18:10):
There's a lot happening and he's got a lot to
say about it. Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety one,
Anthony and deer Park wants to way in. Good morning, Anthony, Hey,
good morning guys. Hey, I have a point I'd like
to make, and then I do have a question for
you off that's okay.
Speaker 19 (02:18:28):
Yeah, So my first my point is to dad to
what Sean was saying about professional athletes being tough, that
that point was proven last night Christian Walker got tacked
on the hand with a fastball and then immediately there
after hustled to break up a double play and then
scored second to home on a single of center field,
(02:18:49):
sliding in the home plate with the hand that just
got hit by a fastball. So I didn't really like
I didn't really care for the picture that the Astros
painted of Kyle for last year, and I feel like
they're maybe doing the same thing to yord On this
year and we're not getting the full story. But my question,
(02:19:09):
the Astros are going to obviously need to add to
their pitching debts at the trade deadline, and it's sounding
like the Brewers are going to be sellers at the deadline.
So I was curious what you guys think about a
guy like Freddy Peralta. He's a sub three e R
A guy for four and one record and his decisions,
and he's only got a three point one million AAV
(02:19:33):
on his contract and he's under team control till twenty
twenty seven. Just wanted to hear y'all's thoughts on maybe
bringing him to the Astros.
Speaker 5 (02:19:41):
Appreciate the call, Anthony, I mean, is Sean the shortest
chance I can give on that? Well, it would be awesome,
but for everything that he just threw out there, it
would absolutely cost you. And I just don't think the
Astros have the asking price to be able to reach
that ask.
Speaker 1 (02:19:56):
Yeah, and I don't think the asking price you're talking
about has anything to do with my It has to
do with assets and what you'd have to give up
to get Freddie Peralta who's Yeah, and they may depending
on what happens the next you know, month plus month
and a half for Milwaukee. I know they expected different,
but yeah, hell, now you're that's that's not just some guy,
(02:20:20):
you're just getting an innings user. Dan that that that
that's a difference making picture right and on a good team,
hell even better. So, yes, if you could pull it
off and you could get him on the cheap, but
once again, and the control is important, the AAV obviously important.
Those aren't the parts that now, Bobby, it'd be what
are you going to have to give up to pull
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that off? And if you're going to give it up,
you keep doing that every year, I mean it becomes
even more depleted. But if you think a guy like
par Alta is the difference in getting you to a
World Series, and one thing about it is we're not
going to be the only team that would like a
guy like that.
Speaker 7 (02:20:58):
Well it comes to the trade deadline.
Speaker 1 (02:21:00):
The value for a guy like that, especially, the value
goes up too because he's not a thirty million dollar
price tag and he's got control. So of course people
are going to be standing in line to try and
get a guy who's pitching well for a team that
isn't doing their thing well.
Speaker 5 (02:21:16):
And cheap and under control like that usually means it's
not only going to hurt, it's going to extra hurt
from the team because they're like, all right, what's in
it for us if we're moving on from this guy.
We're not giving up you know completely here, we're retooling here.
But how much does it mean to you? Because they
want to make sure that it stings you as much
as it's stinging them.
Speaker 1 (02:21:37):
Yeah. Dan, that's the one thing every year that we
come around with this and like we are talking about
getting you know, a pitcher last year in Kakuchi, it
was gonna hurt. You knew going in when you were
going to go get somebody that while it may hurt
the team that's losing, and it's it's going to hurt
you too because you're going to get and in his case,
you know, the value and the premium price took placed
(02:21:58):
on a guy who can get strikeouts and you know Lefty,
all those things that come into play, there's no doubt.
Speaker 7 (02:22:06):
So it's not just the.
Speaker 1 (02:22:07):
Well, well what does it do to them and how
does it help our team? It also comes in what's
the sting and the gut wrench that's gonna it's gonna
cause you some issues. Listen, the Kokuchi thing worked when
he was here. The problem is not keeping him. It
didn't work fully. I mean he was great. It didn't
work fully because three dudes are under control in Toronto
(02:22:30):
for a while and Kokuchi's pitching in Anaheim. That you
get my point. So it worked while I was here,
But what have they won a World Series and he's
been been a part of it. We would have said,
and we didn't even get to see him the postseason,
did we too soon? You didn't get to see him
there there you go. So that I loved the gig
(02:22:51):
and the way it paid off while he was here.
The problem is you didn't get the full payoff because
a world series and you said, yeah, but what about
three years from now. I don't care, I'll trade the
ring for three years of wondering anyway. I'll always want
the ring first, because that means we got to mix
and match for the next two years to try and
get it back. I'm okay with it. Give me a ring,
I'll read, I'll redo everything else. But yeah, Dan, that
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was it didn't It wasn't the full path when it happened,
people questioned it. After about four starts, people said, this
is a good gig, and unfortunately it ended before we
got to see him in the postseason and what could
really go on? And then he obviously went, and he
was an early signing in free I mean he was
gone the second and I mean right away he had signed,
So it wasn't you didn't even get a chance to
(02:23:35):
get in the mix for a long term or you
weren't going to get in the mix anyway. So while
it didn't work, overall it did work, you just didn't
get the final payoff you wanted. So what's the case issue?
You go get a guy. It's not just what it
does to help your team, it's what's the sting And
it can be gut wrenching.
Speaker 7 (02:23:52):
It's not just a thing. Sometimes it's a.
Speaker 1 (02:23:54):
It's a fracture, not a bone bruise, Dan, how's that
it's not a contusion. And in this case, and people
aren't gonna just want to give the Astros cart blind
because first of all, they already know even with injuries,
the Astros pitching staff is still good. And you got
two front line studs, and then adding a Parola type
player would would would obviously catapult them. And the fact
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that it wouldn't be a rentals a good gig.
Speaker 5 (02:24:17):
Well, I think you could say it would be both
soft tissue and structural.
Speaker 1 (02:24:20):
With there you go in and require a second MRI
and a second opinion.
Speaker 5 (02:24:24):
Yeah, yeah, all the above. Brandon. Let you in here
pretty quickly, Buddy, good morning, good.
Speaker 1 (02:24:30):
Morning, Sorry, I was playing a game. Are you cool,
I'm gonna I'm gonna win this game.
Speaker 5 (02:24:38):
Cool awesome, manight as as bad and right.
Speaker 1 (02:24:44):
Now for me?
Speaker 5 (02:24:45):
Okay, well, I mean he's been swinging it well for
the Astros, and I know you're happy without their plan.
Speaker 1 (02:24:52):
Your may head home one.
Speaker 5 (02:24:55):
That would be great as well. Yeah, there you go. Hey,
there's never a bad time for it.
Speaker 1 (02:25:00):
Get to hear your home run on a video game.
Speaker 5 (02:25:02):
There you go for sure.
Speaker 6 (02:25:06):
That he needs from Jurdon.
Speaker 5 (02:25:08):
Have we heard anything with your on? No, I mean
just with what Dana told us yesterday. I mean, still
waiting to see and Joe said it and gives him
the thumbs up and he's good to go. He's back
in the lineup. So we'll see if he gets that
simulated game in and is back in the lineup soon.
Speaker 1 (02:25:23):
Well on, it's all on Jordon now. They've cleared him
ready to play. It's just whether he can handle the pain.
So that's what it is. So we it's day to
day night and what is this ringer? Okay, Sean his hand, Well,
it's not okay yet because he's not playing, but the
doctors say that you know, the structurally it's fine now
(02:25:43):
because it's a soft tissue injury. That it's on what
he can handle. So whenever he says I'm either pain
free or I can live with the pain and play
through it, that's when you'll see Jordon in the lineup.
But until then, so it's not an astro's decision. Now
it's his.
Speaker 5 (02:26:00):
Yeah, But I was about to say.
Speaker 1 (02:26:02):
Say that, there you go. We'll see. We don't know
any more than you do about that, other than we
could wake up on the weekend and Jordan could be
in the lineup, where we could wake up next week
and he's still not in the lineup. Here's what all
depends on his pain threshold.
Speaker 5 (02:26:17):
All right, Brandon, appreciate it, man, we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1 (02:26:20):
Yep.
Speaker 18 (02:26:21):
So that's hit a home one office.
Speaker 5 (02:26:23):
Guy, get after it. Man, We'll leave you to it. Okay,
all right, So brandon't gonna hit a home run with
East sac preadis that is something that in real life
and in video games, we hope we always get to see.
Speaker 7 (02:26:37):
My day's made. That's been a home ru on his
video game.
Speaker 5 (02:26:39):
Right there you go, My god, Brandon's here to deliver.
Speaker 1 (02:26:42):
All right.
Speaker 5 (02:26:43):
Speaking of delivering, if you're looking for instant results when
it comes to this with the Texans. Well, then you're
gonna have to wait. We'll discuss that here. It is
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We're the Sean Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (02:29:23):
I mean, you've talked about it numerous times with me
and me and you have gone back and forth about
you know, this time of the year, in the football
off season where you can wait a little bit to
get deep into the football conversation, and on this one,
I'm absolutely going to agree with you on because I'm
itching for football on the field as quickly as possible
(02:29:43):
like anyone else. I'm not watching the USFL or whatever
the hell else is out there. I can deal without it.
But we're in the middle of OTAs right now with
the Texans, and in terms of the talking points and
everything else news related items that could come out of there, well,
I'll go ahead and let Demiko Ryans explain what this
time of the year is.
Speaker 1 (02:30:04):
There's nothing going on right now within are guys.
Speaker 5 (02:30:07):
Everybody's just on their own schedule. All right, there, you go,
quick and right to the point, Sean. I mean this,
of course, was in response to being asked yesterday about
c J. Stroud not throwing, not going through seven on seven,
eleven on eleven, doing a lot of stuff on the
side whatever, That's fine, it's OTAs. I there is nothing
for me in our audience that I feel like is
(02:30:29):
interesting enough for us to be able to do a
deep dive into. I'm not interested in hearing about people
trying to be better today than they were yesterday. What
are you trying to do? Oh, I'm trying to make
my technique better. Great, that's awesome. Kaylon Bullock's wearing number
two now cool, awesome, love it. But I mean, aside
from that, everything else, you can leave all the talking points,
(02:30:50):
like I get everybody's got a job to do. But
I saw one headline yesterday, Will Anderson Junior trying to
work on his hand placement. Great that that absolutely is
something that I feel like can fill a show for
four hours. And we've gone over three and a half
hours without even mentioning other than headlines. What's happened over
at Kirby Drive.
Speaker 1 (02:31:09):
Listen, man, you're not getting much done in shorts and
a T shirt. It's more to me the mental learning process,
getting no teammates and play booking your ass off, so
you'd understand when you come back to the fall that
you're not left behind. Okay, I'm not finding anything out,
and it's a good time to work on mechanics and
technique like Will Anderson, it sure is. Now it's nothing
(02:31:31):
you can talk about until we see it applied when
a guy's got full gear on and going after it
how it works and how that technique and application. But
you're always working to perfect your craft when you're doing
lonely work, when you're doing work with your own team.
But there's nothing you're going to learn now, says Ooh,
that's going to be a great play in the fall. Well,
you experiment right now is the time. But I am
(02:31:51):
a big part of in these moments. Don't waste them
because every chance you get a chance to be on
the field a couple hours, hour and a half, it's
a chance to work on you, not really your your
well you're building chemistry and all that. I get all that,
But in truth, guys are coming and going there thinking
about that six weeks they're going to get off between
now and training camp and the you know, the vacation
or whatever they're doing. But when you're out there with
(02:32:13):
Will Anderson working on hand placement, where where's the best
way when I put this move on or I do it,
you know, I rip or I spend. Where's my best
place to put my hands? Yeah, no doubt hand placement.
You know your stance, quarterback and mechanics and and you're
but you're walking through a lot of conversation and talk.
So yeah, you can't make a four hour show, nor
(02:32:35):
would I try, nor would I care to try. On
an ota. Now a guy comes out injured, why are
we doing all that? But the listen. Showing up matters.
Just being around and listening is important. But to me,
it's all the mental stuff. So when you get the
training camp and they're putting eight passes in and four
runs and uh seven formations the first day and you're
(02:32:56):
a young player and you don't, you're like, well, what
were you doing between June and July that you didn't
even look at it? So now you've set us back,
but you've set yourself back, and now you're not giving
you the chance, the best chance to physically compete.
Speaker 7 (02:33:10):
That's what these are.
Speaker 1 (02:33:11):
Four See who's there, how we moving around, let's exp
we've got a new coordinator on offense, just kind of
getting going. But it's the mental part that you could
take a major advantage of, because when you go to
camp as a young player, you are so overwhelmed with
the mental and emotional part. Band what about this play?
What about that? I got to do this? The audible check?
What about this? If you can get out of the huddle,
(02:33:31):
you've got an eighty percent of it licked. Going to
the line of scrimms, you're not saying okay on the
curl flat ride of mount on the back side of
the front side. What is this again? Had you and
mentally stayed in it between OTAs and this, you wouldn't
have to because guess what they do? Practice number two
put five more passes in, six more formations, four more emotions,
four more runs, four more blitz pickups, and now you
(02:33:54):
got to say and and eight more coverages over the
two days. Now you're like, oh, okay, know you get
behind and now you're chasing the whole time and you
physically can't do what you want to because mentally your
mind is overworked and there's too much clutter. That's what
this time is for. When they go away, don't just
tick that playbook aside. Make sure when they break the
(02:34:15):
huddle and you're a young receiver, then they say, hey,
double right that you don't line up on the left.
If you're the Z, you're supposed to line up with
the Z on the right outside right. Then you don't
forget where to go. That's what prevents you from physically
playing well, not the other way around. It's the mental
that allows you to physically play freely, not the physical
(02:34:36):
that allows you to mentally think freely.
Speaker 7 (02:34:38):
Big difference.
Speaker 5 (02:34:39):
Well, and it's also too I mean this even goes
as far as the training camp. Like we talked about
it last week, the show Hard Knocks, like the mystique
of it is gone, like it's it's done. I understand
what the show is going to be. Every single year,
an undrafted free agent that's not going to make the team,
Nor should I care if they necessarily make the team,
because they're not going to be a consequential part of
(02:35:00):
the team. When it gets to the training camp. Seawan
for me. Guess when I'll pay a little bit more attention.
Joint practice against the Panthers, joint practice up there in
Detroit against the Lions.
Speaker 1 (02:35:09):
I like joint practices far more than I do preseason games.
You learn more. You can control the environment. I mean,
you know, you're playing against those guys and it gets physical.
You're the drills fast, you're right there. You can coach
it on. You got to wait till they get to
the side and you're standing behind the drill. You can
coach it and teach them tempo. So many different things
(02:35:29):
you can do. I'm much more. You can get rid
of all the preseason games for me, Let me practice
against other teams.
Speaker 7 (02:35:35):
For two, four or three days.
Speaker 1 (02:35:38):
Dan, So I'm one percent, Uh with you on that,
and that that's how you You don't want to hold
the team up by that, but yes, those techniques and
the things you're talking about. I want to know how
it holds up, not in shorts and the T shirt,
not in OTAs, but how it holds up although I
want you there, how it holds up under to rest
(02:36:00):
in big important games and the rest of it. But
it lonely works important between June and now because it's
easy to gain. I mean, it's easy to lose your
your fitness, your training, if you take three weeks off
or if you don't study it, it's hard to get
back no matter what. So just just stay on top
of it gives you an extra chance, and the teams
that do that the tremendous, tremendous advantage for them. But
(02:36:26):
as far as preseason goes, you know, I'm not a
preseason game guy. Practice to me is where you win
and lose your job and your opportunity in heading into
the regular season.
Speaker 5 (02:36:37):
A Shawn Salisbury show promise there.
Speaker 1 (02:36:39):
Will not be good Yeah, so what we're gonna say.
Speaker 5 (02:36:41):
I was gonna say there will not be ota mini camp,
deep dives all this show.
Speaker 1 (02:36:49):
Yes. One other thing I can say to you, do
you realize I have never And it's not even a
badge of honor, it's just fact.
Speaker 7 (02:36:54):
You know, I've never seen an episode of Hard Knocks.
Speaker 5 (02:36:58):
You're not missing much at this point. It's that I
don't see a storyline. Yeah, it's the same storyline every year.
Speaker 1 (02:37:03):
Seeing a clip like when Jeff Fisher was there and
Todd Gurley you know, if our back goes down. You
know I've seen clips, yeah, you know, thirty seconds here there.
I've never, ever, ever, ever, in my entire life, sat
down and watched Hard Knocks. I don't know. Maybe it's
because you lived it and you're part of it, you know,
(02:37:23):
it wasn't Hard Knocks. I don't know why, and I
know some love it, but maybe maybe it's weird.
Speaker 7 (02:37:28):
But I've never seen an episode.
Speaker 1 (02:37:30):
I don't know what. What is it on Netflix now
or is it on HBOS still? Okay?
Speaker 6 (02:37:35):
Ye?
Speaker 5 (02:37:37):
Season one now too?
Speaker 1 (02:37:38):
Yeah, well you know I've never seen that. If I've
never seen the one, it's training camp, so ye never
seen it. So but yeah, the storylines are the same,
it's just the rapper changes.
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You know, awesome stuff.
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Remember the game in San Diego I think played in
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and Top Gun. Top Gun School was big back in
the day, so yeah, I'm all about it.
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Two to one lead for the A's.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Here's the pitch and it's a ground ball through the
right side base hit. They're gonna send Walker. Could be
a play a bottle for a second, and is say
the bottle costs Butler. Walker scores on a quick slide.
An RBI for Cave Smith and we're tired.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Here's the two two langladers swaying in a mess, struck
him out on a breaking ball. Twelve strikeouts for Lacema
Colors Junior, and we head to the bottom of the six.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Breaking pitch is belt at the center field, Clark going
back on it, still drifting, and it's gone for time.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Dessentzo does it. His second home run of the year.
Is three to three.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
That was a crack.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Three to three ball games Sterner out of the stretch.
First pitch is laced up the.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Metal baseet Payneli score.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
They'll send Perettes.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Along, throw in not a time.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Five to three astros keratinis.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Wasting no time.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Two RBIs Cartini does it again.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Hater delivers playing and a mess struck him out on
the slider and that is the ballgame.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Thank Houston.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Astros take both games from the A's winning this afternoon
five to three. Astros when they're fourth in a row
and have won five of.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Their last six.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Robert and Steve telling you all you needed to know
about yesterday afternoon's Astros game right here on Sports Talk
seven ninety KBM E Houston and iHeartRadio station. And with
that we say away we go here on the Sean
Salisbury Show, and good morning to all of you. Sean,
We'll start first with Lance mccullors. I mean, we had
(02:17):
expectations of hopefully get through five yesterday and I thought
after he gave up that home run to Jacob Wilson
that was going to be the end of his day.
But Jo Aspottas said, nine, I'm sending them back out
there for the sixth.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Kind of eerie.
Speaker 7 (02:31):
How we had the conversation yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
If he's in there going well at five but they
had a little hiccup, then when would Lance mccullors, when
would we know when he was going to get to six?
And how could you count? I mean or as is
four and two thirds five innings, which you're going to
get from him. Well, the trust factor one hundred plus pitches,
gets through six strikes out twelve, controlled the strikes on
(02:55):
his zone amazingly, now like you put on seven people
with walks.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
He was extremely impressive. And if you get.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
That, especially in the news of what we heard from
Blanco yesterday, which we'll get to, it was that was
masterful by him. Now that guy, that guy was okay,
then worth the wait, the two years worth. I mean,
he was sharp, focused and did his thing. And we
(03:25):
talked yesterday about he'll get swing and miss and he'll
get strikeouts, but double digits. Now that walked that strike
out the walk ratios, and that's impressive. And they needed
his performance yesterday, a little back and forth and you know,
they hung around. I just I was really it was
(03:46):
impressive and light of all because I'll be honest with
you when when I when going into the season, the
word count on wasn't at the top of my Bengo card.
It just wasn't. It wasn't part of it. When it
came to to Lance's not that I didn't think he
could pitch, don't misunderstanding that I didn't think I could
count on him to be that guy this year.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I don't know if this is going to continue, but
when you see something like that, you know he's got
it in him. And the fact that Joe trusted him
to run him out there again, to bring him out
in the sixth inning. It was an impressive start for
the Colors and that had to be. It was almost
as if he knew after the news, Okay, I got
to ramp my game up, and boy did he that.
(04:28):
Lance mc colors is exactly why you're patient for a
couple of years and waiting for him to get right.
It was needed. I'm sure confidence now is through the roof.
Now let's see how he feels going into his next
start after one hundred plus pitches and if the recovery
and everything's fine. That guy there is why he got
paid as well when he did. So. Those are in
(04:52):
lights and bad news yesterday for Blanco. This was a
great news for the Astros and lancemic colors, no.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Doubt about It's you mentioned the walks, only one from him,
only three altogether of the four pictures that you used
yesterday in the game, and it's fair for you too
to bring up what you said about you being able
to count on him, because I mean, Sean, let's be
honest here, there's a pattern, there's a history, there's all
of those things when it comes to Lance mccullors.
Speaker 8 (05:18):
That.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
I mean, you even heard Joe Spotus say yesterday he
hadn't thrown six innings in a while. Now we have
to see how he reacts after this one.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yep, I've told you since he since he came back,
and I even I think had mentioned it to either
Steve Sparks or Joe I mean Dana Brown anyway on
one of our interviews that Okay, I'm not so concerned
about the start when he made his first start, Okay,
I want to see how he responds.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
I was armed response to the result and all that.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Obviously you want a good result, but they get him
out there was important on the first on his first start,
So I was like, okay, let's see what was on
the second one. The second one I don't think was
very good. Okay, So then you get to as he
rolls along it was a second or the third one
where it was a struggle a big time, and so
you didn't see Irakai. I mean you're like, well, what's
(06:09):
going on? Well, now gets the six innings, one hundred
plus pitches, how will he respond? So for me, it's
how the arm, because the ability is there. We know
he gets people out, we know what kind of we
know what kind of stuff he's got. So it's the
recovery time and the injury situation and his confidence gets
it starts to grow, and his command of the strike
zone in twelve to one, strike out the walk, Ray SiO,
(06:29):
You'll win a lot of games that way, and had
some help from his sitting friends at the right time yesterday.
Impressive performance. And I don't think that, like you said,
I don't think it was a negative. He said, Well,
I don't know if I can count on Lansma colors
even going in because you still tread lightly saying okay,
are we going to get another one? Where about every
(06:50):
third time he's supposed to start, they got to push
him back because he's and understandably so with an injury,
you know, with his injury history. So he's got to
be waking up today feeling really good man about what
he was about. The key is next week, how's the
arm feel? And if he goes out there and can
(07:10):
pump up close to one hundred pitches and give you
five or six innings again. Then then right now, I
can guarantee you the city's probably waking up when they
are like, damn, is this the Lansma Colors we're going
to get where? Or is it somewhere in between, you know,
the four inning, three inning guy and this guy, or
is this who you're going to get. You're not going
(07:33):
to get twelve strikeouts on every five or six days,
of course, but he was impressive man, And you could
say naked eye. I can tell you all you need
to know, but experts inside of watching the way he
worked yesterday would probably even dive a lot deeper. But
it was. It was much needed and I am sure
emotional for him from death from you know, all the injuries,
(07:55):
to the death threats, to the emotion that goes with it.
I mean, and now you have to count on him.
It's no longer I hope I can count on him.
Blanco out Raghetti, you know throwing the ball. Was Nesky
out for the season. That's two of the two of
(08:15):
your five original starters or or are done for the year.
Another one is working his way back. And the guy
now that you're counting on has been out for two years.
But now it's no longer I hope I can count
of last because you have to count on him. He
has to perform, he has to start, and he has
(08:39):
to post every fifth, every time it's his turn, whether
you're going through five or six starters, and he did yesterday.
So in order for them to get he doesn't have
the he don't have a choice. I mean, team really,
I mean, where are you going? I mean, what are
you going to do? He has to you have to
get stuff out of him, and you have to get
(09:01):
I mean, you'd love to be something near that on
a regular basis, which will be tough to do. But
I was impressed. And so it's no longer a hope thing.
It's a Blanco's out now west Nesky's out. That's two
guys in the last what two weeks where it's like,
damn out for the season. What do we do? And
that's two fists of your starting rotation. The three fists
(09:22):
is distill out and now I need you, And so
counting on him is a must, not just an option.
And he pitched like he pitched like there was urgency
yesterday and to be impressive and to show his team
that they can count on him. And the fact that
Joe ran him back out there tells you a lot,
as he was approaching one hundred pitches.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Yeah, lance had that second outing is when he gave
up the seven earned run radio the Reds and did
not get out of the first inning, as matter of fact,
only got one single solitary out. But since then, Sean
has thrown over fourteen innings and giving up a combined
at five earned runs during that time, and yesterday two
of those from Jacob Wilson, but still.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Not walking people.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Dan He's pretty good man, and he and his command
of the strike zone and throwing it at the right
spot was staying ahead in the count. Impressive. That's how
he gets twelve strikeouts. We've always know he can get
swing and miss and and incite some walks back to
the dugout, but he's now that the count on him
as a must if they're going where they want to go.
(10:25):
Lancelack Colors is going to have to be one hell
of a third starter for.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Sure, and we'll talk about that a little bit more
here in a second. But one other thing you mentioned
the timely hitting, and I mean we've said it. I've
said it, and you know, wondered aloud if this team
can be able to carry itself, sustain itself with the bats.
But I've also said before you did enough. I would
say yesterday was in between there because the timely hitting.
(10:52):
You get the home run to tie it up by
Zach Desenzo, and then you get Victor Carrattini coming through
with the two run single.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
The guy's a stud, Karatine's clutch man. I think we're
pretty lucky. Is there a better backup clutch player a
catcher in the league. Is there a better more versatile Yeah,
just a clutch the guy who can hit, who can
play a couple of positions for you, leaders can call
a game. Considering he's not yours, he should be starting
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on a handful of teams in this league. I think
he's that good. And he is. He is such an
unheralded bonus for this team. He just finds he's done
it since he's been here. Some clutch hitting. Oh, I
need you to go play first, Oh I need you
to catch, okay, And he does it without a whole
lot of fan fair He just keeps doing it. But
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he's delivered time and time again. And lucky to have
him because I can guarant ask to you there's a
bunch of places that guy'd be playing one hundred and
forty five games and we're fortunate or whatever to have
him here. But yeah, one thing that has been missing
the last year in fifty five games has been the
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timely hitting you're talking about. Not that they don't have it,
but one of the biggest complaints the last year in
fifty five games has been their ability to get runners
across timely hitting with runners in scoring position or the
timely home run. When the Asshs are at their best,
that's always been a part of their m it has
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not been a part of their mo They've had to
struggle for us to ay because most of the struggles
have come with what's wrong with them with guys when
you got runners in scoring position, left on base and that.
But if you can solve that taking care of your
business at home, which they're doing a great job of,
birdie the par fives, which they did in this series,
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and get Lance mc colors going like that, the timely
hitting will be important as well. The health of the
starting pitching but they got it yesterday. The hitting's fine
and dandy, but it's like that team. I'm not talking
about the Astros, but you know the guy who hits
forty five home runs during the year, and thirty of
them are solo jobs when you're down five to one.
Sure that the Astros don't live that that way. They
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never have. But the timely hitting has been part of
their mo during these alcs's and World Series runs and
it's been a bit missing. But if you can start
to get that and get the timely hitting and sometimes
from people you may not expect it from.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
De Zenzo's home run.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I mean, we started to expect it from Karatini, but
guys who have come through that aren't the ones we
are always talking about. That's a good thing, but there
was no bigger highlight in the game than Lance mcculor's performance,
not even close.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
For sure, as the Astro is able to win it, yes,
say five to three. Even better news that Mariners lose
last night, so you're now half a game behind at
Seattle for first place in the AOS, says. The Tampa
Bay Rays will come into town to fire up a
four game homestand this weekend also to last night, the
Thunder moving on to the NBA Finals and five games
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over the Timberwolves. The Pacers trying to close out the
Knicks tonight New York for Game five of that series.
They are up three to one there. But we'll continue
the Astros conversation because with the things we were talking
about with Lance McCullers, now, Sean, I think it's a
race to two for the Astros, and we'll break that
down right here as we're just getting going here on
a Thursday edition of The Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
Let's go.
Speaker 10 (14:33):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
You mentioned this last night on Twitter, and I don't
think that there's any doubt that we need to address
this because especially with the news that we found out
twofold yesterday, when it comes to the Astros with a
couple of different guys, first with Renelle Blancos So, we
had the conversation with Dana Brown, Astros GM who joins
us every single week nine thirty, and we wrapped it
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up probably about nine well yesterday, just after ten twenty,
a press release comes out for the Astros right hand
to pitcher Renel Blanco gonna undergo right elbow surgery next week,
gonna sideline him for the remainder of the twenty twenty
five season. He's anticipated to return during the twenty twenty
sixth season. I bring that up because here was Dana
Brown with us yesterday when you asked him about Renel Blanco.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, Blanco had.
Speaker 11 (15:22):
His second opinion, and we're gonna talk to the doctor
at some point this afternoon. But he had the second opinion,
and we'll have an update probably at the end of
the game today this as we have a day game,
all right.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
So a couple of things right there, Sean that I
think we can obviously disagree with. Number one, I mentioned
that we wrapped it up at about nine to fifty
and then just after ten twenty we get that release
that comes out. And I find it pretty hard to
believe that the afternoon came in those forty minutes.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
I said, I guess the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
That would make it about three point thirty or so
four o'clock after the game right now, you would think yesterday, Yeah,
Dana's been great to us, Love Dana, but I can
tell you that it's not above christ. One of two
things happened. If it happens within an hour after the show,
either you are not in the loop and this decision
was made without you, or he basically roniated in the
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face and told us it was raining.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Because what I gathered from that.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Is that that basically that the Houston astros knew before
our interview yesterday, or coming right out of it, the
Renelle Blanco or even coming into it, was done that
the second opinion was they were told on a second opinion,
he needs to be shelved for the year. He's gonna
get Tommy John. And then, like you said, I didn't
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pay attention to the time stamp and I went back
and looked at it because when I got off here,
I had other stuff to do that that ain't the afternoon,
and that is an after the game, if you know,
tell us I understand the fans disdain about injuries. That
business has happened before, no problem. I mean, I know
what happens. You're protecting your team and the rest of it.
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But what's the secret when you know forty minutes later
you got to I mean, is there a certain protocol
you got to wait so certain people are sitting in
a room to hear the press conference or the announcement
when you know we're going to find out in an
hour of it. And and you're a regular here weekly.
(17:32):
I don't think, not that you need to break stories here.
I don't care, but you know, didn't wait till four
o'clock if that's what you're going to tell us.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
But in my opinion, you can't.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Say, yep, we're gonna wait till after the game and
within an hour after a show if you've been asked
the question specifically about that player. I could only deduct
one or two things. The general manager had no clue
what was going on with the injury, which I find
hard to believe. No indeans day to day hands on
stuff and the way he follows and loves this team,
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or he just oh well, we can't announce now. And
my question is why, well, what? What?
Speaker 12 (18:10):
What?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Who needed to know first? If you had a chance,
you're on here, it's it's damn near ten o'clock. The
difference team ten and ten forty five. But what would
would he have to get clearance from Clarence? I don't understand,
So to me, I actually think it's weak, and I
rarely say that about stuff that they do, not personal professional,
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but I know, damn well, when you're specifically asked and
he said second opinion. He knew when he answered it
one of two things. Either he's out of the loop
on the injuries, which as the GM that's hard for
me to fath him because he's good. Secondly, he knew
and decided they were going to wait. But that to me,
there's about a six hour time difference in that we
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were told on here. But I assure you, and I'm
making this promise to you again, like I do every
single week, I don't do softball questions with with Dana Brown.
He will if you're done still out the next time
this show airs and he's on, he's gonna get the
whole Segment's gonna be why where, when, what's going on?
(19:17):
What's going on? Threshold of paint because they put it
in his lap, So I'm gonna find out. So if
you ever thought that you wanted a soft interview, it
ain't coming from me.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
I can sure as I'll tell you that. Ever, they don't.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Owe me anything, They don't know you anything other than
the fact that you know, just saw you'd come on
and do it. But the frustrating part about it, and
I do get the astros fans disdain you, wonder well,
is it true? Is in it? My gut tells me
this is my opinion. I'm sure it's hell entitled to it.
When it comes to business and your credibility in mind
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in the show and everybody else's. It does work like
we do when you ask the question and you answer it.
I can only deduct two things, so you can't get
mad at me for saying what I want to say.
Either you did know and you're out of the loop,
or you damn well new and decided you're just gonna
wait another thirty minutes. And I say, for what, ask
a question, get an answer given a lot of leeway, man,
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we do, but I can. I can tell you, so
anybody do out there that wants to know if there's
everything and Dan one thing I may not be good
as much, but one thing I know how to do
is interview a guest. And I always have. I've been
a good learner and listener. And they're not a person
in our building or in their building that's gonna prevent
me from peppering with the right questions every single week.
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Every every week that will be a deep dive. And
sometimes when a can of worms open up and now
now the deep dive is gonna be I need an
extra hour of fresh air to dive, to dive way
down into that ocean to get the answers I'm looking for.
And I assure you I'm gonna get them one way
or the other. And if we don't, I'm gonna tell
you what. It'll be an exhausting fifteen minutes. I promise
(20:56):
you that. So yeah, I mean it's fine. And so
I can only deduct two things in my journalism career
and broadcast career and entertainment career that when you tell
me that forty minutes later, you either knew and didn't
want to answer it, or you're the GM and you're
out of the loop, or somebody's tapped and don't talk
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about it. Don't talk about and whatever the three is,
I don't care. It will not prevent me from peppering questions.
So please let your non get back healthy between now
and the next time I do an interview on Wednesday
at nine thirty.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Well, and that's not the only thing too that we
covered with Dana Brown yesterday, because we also found something
else out after our conversation. You asked him about Spencer Raghetty.
This was the answer we got.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
He's going to get the uh, you know, the cast
off sometimes here soon and he's going to start a
throwing programs.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
You know.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
I think he's going to be fine. You know, he's
right there at the brink of of tautin. So once
he gets through that, well we're gonna be work to
go and get him stretched out and let him start
to throw. So I think he's probably within a week
of getting it off.
Speaker 10 (22:09):
Sean.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
He no, he threw on Tuesday. He played catch on Tuesday.
He addressed the media about it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So they played catch in private on Tuesday, addressed the media.
Value Well, I'm out of town, so I didn't see
his address to the media. So there it is. I
can tell you what I'm not. I'm not a sounding board.
I promise you that. So love him, always do. We'll
always support. But if they don't like tough questions, I'm
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the wrong guy. Okay, I can assure you I'm the
wrong guy. So yeah, it's I don't even know how
to I'm I'm not even sure how to take it. Dan,
to be honest with you, I'm not I'm not really sure
how to take it.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Although my disdain.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
So the next time you tell me about an injury,
I'm just gonna freaking say you're lying to me.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Whoever it is. That that's what I guess.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I got a deduct or that when you tell me
one thing that I'll either know that so so how
I mean, we went from we'll know in the late
afternoon to the guy's done for the year and we'll
know what he gets his cast off.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
That the guy already.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Threw and his cast was already off and nobody knew
and happened the day before. Huh okay, all right, never personal,
always business. But guess what guess of my job is
as a host of this show when the interview is
to find answers and to ask answers that unfortunately for
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the fans, they don't get asked. And at times I
thought maybe the fans are a little too harsh on
this because of the secretive or the but you know what,
they're not have every right to be that frushrated, especially
oh man, every guy he's gonna throw tomorrow, Well it
happened twenty four hours ago, oh man, Blanco, We're gonna
find out this afternoon. Later this afternoon, what the answer
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is within an hour you get oh he's got Tommy John.
So yeah, you know what, sometimes you got to go
through these things to do it. Better do your homework
because I'm coming. Just you know, when he says, hey,
we're coming, I mean and I love him. We're gonna
bring it. Well, guess what I'm bringing it too, just
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like I could do every week, So there will be
no soft selling injuries or okay, they until I'm satisfied
and you're satisfied.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
In fact, I'm just gonna keep at it.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
If that means that it's a fifteen minute injury interview
for answers, That's exactly what I'm going to do because
that's my job and that's what I get paid. And
if somebody tasked me on the show and says you
can't ask him anymore, then then then then we'll have
to adjust that because guess what I'm gonna say, then
we should, we should, we would. Then that's an interview
I shouldn't be doing because I got a responsibility and
I'm not gonna and I won't be that guy, I
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promise you. So there you go. Needless to say you
lost Blanco Arragett, He's a ahead a schedule. Just see
you guys know he's a day ahead of schedule. It
was Tuesday instead of Wednesday. And Lance mccullors looked good
last night. And if you want answers, you're in the
right place because I promise you I'll get them one
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way or the other.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Well, I mean it's something too that we owe to
our audience. I mean, this is a fan base that
has stood with this team for a really long time,
especially after twenty seventeen. And I mean I paired exactly
what you said about the one of two things. Either
we were intentionally misled or he just didn't know. And
that's second part is one that I shut her to
think because I can't have the GM of the team
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not knowing what's happening with his team.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Well, if he's out of a loop on injuries like that,
disastrous team's in trouble.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
As a GI, I can say. So, I'm just asked
somebody telling.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Me what else that we're supposed to deduct from it
either doesn't know it has zero idea what's going on
in the injury world, or just decided to take the
trail somewhere else. And then forty five, I don't even
know when the answer. But I can tell you this,
We asked, get answers, and we will continue to do it.
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And you know, on Wednesdays at nine thirty or anybody
else that comes on here, they're not getting off the
air without getting tempered proper questions. If you want softballs,
I go a couple of TV shows you can tune
into where guys make a lot of money. They wouldn't
know how to interview their way out of a wet
ass paper bag or paper towel for that matter. So
you can find those guys on this show. On this show,
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regardless of anybody else is disdained for the tough questions
that are asked. I don't care. They will get asked.
They will continue to get asked, and it'll never be personal.
It'll be baseball related as always. And you know, maybe
next time we'll get a little bit better time stamp
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on it.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Well, here's hoping for that. But yeah, those were a
couple of things. And Sean, I mean, I don't go
back and delete tweets, but you know that I transcribe
whenever you're talking. I went back and deleted those because
it's it's an insult to our audience to keep those
out there and when clearly it's just not factual news.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
So if it was me, I wouldn't have I wouldn't
have deleted them. It's not a matter of fact. It's
clearing quotes. That's not on you. They get asked the
questions pretty simple. What's the what's the prognosis for Renel Blanco?
You get the answer. That's not on you to de
lead them. So if the fans got a problem with
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the answer, let the fans decipher what their.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Problem is with it. It's our job.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
It's not your job to decipher what they're thinking. Sure
you put the quote in, leave it up. That's not
on you. Here's what was said on a live radio show.
What tape, there's no doubt. Here's what was said. Now
you go and do whatever you want as a fan,
deducting it from whoever it is. I don't care if
it's football, basketball, baseball, player, coach, manage, it doesn't matter. Owner,
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don't care. They're all gonna get asked tough questions. Don't
care what they make or what they do or what
their title is. Could care less. They're gonna get asked questions.
And when they put their answer there, and it's in quotes.
You don't know what to anybody to delete it. So
you look right or we look right. The fact of matters.
It was asked, it was answered, and the answer was
far away different than what the result was.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Period.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
That's called accountability. Brother, Yeah, that's what that's called. And
it sits. So next time you get quotes, don't erase them.
Don't erase them. Let everybody else deduct what they wanted
deduct from the answers. It's not our job to erase
somebody else to something that came out of somebody else's mouth.
It ain't your job to do that. It's their job
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to deduct what they want. As long as the quote's accurate.
It ain't on you, my friend, next time you leave it.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Yeah, fair enough, no, no doubt about it's and it's
something that we can continue to talk about all throughout
the show. But also too, there are positives when it
comes to the astros, and we will discuss some of
those here as we continue along on The Sean Salisbury
Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 10 (29:04):
I had lived that, but the Sewn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
One three, two, one two five seven ninety. The number
to get in. Me and Sean just talking a couple
of minutes ago about our conversation yesterday with Astro's GM
Dana Brown, who joins us every single week here on
the program, and I mean it is appreciated. We we
do absolutely appreciate having the chance to catch up with Dana,
and we do get great things out of Dana. But
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I mean, Sean, I'm gonna even use some of Dana's
words against him here, not from yesterday, but when Renel
Blanco last year got suspended for getting ejected for supposed
sticky stuff and it lanted a suspension, he had a
line of saying, hey, look after what came out in
twenty twenty, we have to be very you know, dotted
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i's and cross t's when it comes to the stigma
of this organization and things like this again where you
think about the audience in this case right here, where
this is an audience that has stood by this organization
through thick and thin ever since all that came out,
the booze on the road, cheeter allegations, trash cans, all
(30:15):
of those different types of things. And I can't help
but think like this is how you repay them where
they honestly want to know what is happening with their team,
what is happening with their players, and the depth of
this pitching staff has been stretched all of those different
types of things, and it's just like, I just I
can't understand taking that tact with this. If you don't
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want to answer it, just straight up say every single week,
Hey guys, I can't get into it, or I'll get
into it later or something like that. Don't just tell
us something that is just on its merits completely false.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, but the still the thing is that you can't
get into their injuries. I'm still asking. I just am
I'm going to ask. Now, there's certain things personal stuff
that we don't need to ask or hip a stuff.
Of course, I'm not going to ask that. It's called
being fair. I love Data on every Wednesday Night thirty.
He's been great to me and been great to us.
(31:09):
I love it. But I also don't have to agree
with everything he says. It's not my job to kiss ass. Okay,
it's not my job. Oh yeah, well this is. You know,
you want to start naming shows on TV I can
turn on for you that are popular where they would
that it's just a hug Fest or I'm not doing
that on this show. I'll quit the career before I
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do that. I ain't losing credibility on questions to appease
an organization or my own organization.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
I'm just not doing it.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
My job when you put me in the chair and
turn on a mic is to ask questions that people
need to know the answer to or want to know
the answers to. Whether you get him or not, it's
up to whoever you're in interviewing. I need to know
a question about an NBA player, and I'm interviewing an
NBA guest and he doesn't want to give it. That's
on him. It doesn't mean I'm not going to ask
it now going into an interview sensitive information. This person
went through this, they're probably a life, they're family. Of course,
(32:01):
I'm not going we were you know when it came
when it When it comes to what's been going on
with some other things about the Lanceoma colors investigation, about
the threats, when when when when? When you can't get
into those, I completely get it. I been not above
with their things that you just absolutely can't talk about,
of course, But when it comes to injuries, we could
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talk about it, and I'm going to ask even if
I'm going to ask and listen, this is we get
good stuff, great stuff every week, some many times breaking stuff.
The Catcher of the future is Yainer Dias, while Corey
Lee is in the organization at the time Dieas was
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the Catcher of the future. So we get good, great stuff,
and I love it. I look forward to it. But
I don't have to agree with everything and said, and
I sure as hell don't have to stop asking questions
because well, you know what you've done now is you've
just made me more curious, and so I'm gonna I'm
gonna dive even deeper. So if you didn't, if you
don't like the injury talk before, you're gonna hate it.
(33:06):
Now if if you're the one has to answer the questions,
I can promise you that, okay, So there will be
no muzzle put on about what you can't talk injuries. Oh,
I'm gonna ask you do whatever you want with them.
But meaning whoever's a guest, I do love it. I
don't have to agree, and you're exactly right at a time, listen,
there's a way to go about it without giving up
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some guy's private or personal injury information. It's not as
if somebody had an injury and well, we're trying, we
need we need to keep it quiet for a week
and then an answer. But they left the show yesterday
and I knew Ronel Blanco was done for the year.
And if they didn't, then they're awfully Then then then
they're out of touch in the organ did and I
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don't think they're out of touch. So love them and
do it. But that doesn't mean I have to agree
with everything. Is that I got best friends and people
who've been married, or you got kids. I love my kids.
I don't agree. We've had plenty of head banging situation,
has any family and parent that's out there doing it?
So I'm going to ask them, and I'm going to
ask deeper and harder. You don't get it. We don't
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get the answer anymore of just well we're just going
to take it day by day. What does that mean?
You explain to me what that means. Well, we're gonna
wait and we're gonna see after it. Because next time
he says, well we're gonna wait till after the game.
Guess what I'm going to say. Are you sure you're
going to wait, fair, and that's exactly what I'm going
to say. And listen, Guess guess what dan in my
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life over the last forty years or thirty years. Guess
the next time I'm bothered by somebody a guest or
bothered by somebody that that is bothered by the question,
that'll be the first time that I'm affected by it.
It ain't gonna happen because when you choose to get
into this profession, your job, you can be an ask kissing,
(34:54):
soft selling, softball question over talking interview forty seven sentences
to get four answers out of a guy. Yeah, I'll
point you to those guys when they do interviews. But
if you if you want answers, or at least the
questions that need to be asked, you'll get them. Here
sounds arrogant, it's not arrogant.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
It's just fact.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
So and you may not get the answers you want
to hear, but I'm going to seek the answers and
with the fans here, Now, why would you now not
not have more be more bothered by it? I don't
know what the big secret is? WHOA what the secret
is three? Or is there an obligation to somebody else.
You got to tell them first. Does that obligation exists?
(35:33):
I don't know, didn't think so. But what's the big
secret about Ronell Blanco?
Speaker 7 (35:38):
We knew he was bothered.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
And I mean, just as quickly as you could have
answered it at nine forty five, you can answer it
at ten twenty. They don't know any obligation to me.
Just I guess what you're always looking for is transparency,
the same transparency I'm going to give you. And I
asked the question, so you know, I don't have to
agree with it. It's okay, it's not it's not per
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so this is business related. But when you come on
at nine thirty, if you're expecting it, or you come
on at ten oh five, or you come on with
Steve Sparks at eight o'clock, we have laughs. I'm not
softballing Steve Sparks the question. Steve knows it. And if
Steve can't answer it, you know what Steve will say,
probably not, Probably can't answer it. Steve. Steve's very good
at understanding this. He's in the business. He gets it.
(36:20):
So no, it's not not that big a deal. But
don't get you can you can't complain as an organization wondering, man,
what answer do I trust? Remember, this was a bone
bruise for seventy for seventy games last night. Okay, it
was a bone bruise. This is just discomfort in a hand.
(36:40):
It's a lot of discomfort for three weeks. So we'll see.
But fans, you can rest assured that at nine thirty,
at eight o'clock, any other time you have a guest
that comes on, I will have plenty of last but
they're not going to get softballed. It will It will
not happen in the day that it ever happens where
that's something that has to be done. I will not
(37:03):
be the guy doing the interview period at any level,
any show, anytime, any part of it, at seventy five
or at thirty, I will not be doing it. If
you're looking for well, we're just here to butter them up.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
Guess what wrong?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Cat? That ain't it?
Speaker 5 (37:21):
Yeah, we're not.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Fans deserve more than an ask kissing softballer. Okay, question,
you ain't getting it from me. Like I said, you'll
have to put a muzzle on me before that happens.
And I don't have a problem with it. See because
I'm not thirty begging for forty more years in the business.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
Not doing that.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Okay questions, Like I said, if I want to do that,
I'll go have a beer and smoke a cigar and
we'll softball our ass off. Okay, on here, when it's
time to ask a question. The fans who pay to
go watch games and do them buy all the memorabilia,
does deserve at least the question. And whether you get
the answer or not, ain't me. I can't ask an
answer it and ask it again. I can give you
my opinion when the interview's over. So, like I said,
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it's never personal. But if you if you people want
to wonder why there's fans disdain, you should protect your
players the right way to protect your players when it
comes to injury and you're trying to figure out what
it is. But come on, man, If if you know
twenty minutes thirty minutes after a show that the guys are,
you're on and I'm asking the question and you already
(38:24):
know if you did, I think it's just silly. I
don't understand why you wouldn't say there's a good chance
he may be on the shelf of the year what's
the difference, right, because you've got to have more bodies around.
There's plenty of people listening. Hints that there's a number
one behind that number sign from this show, so plenty
listen and they look forward to it. And people did
know baseball, So it's okay. Like I said, I'm still
(38:47):
going to probe the for answers. I still am so.
But you can't have a problem with the disdain of
fans over injuries when the elementary part of injuries you
have to guess on no, won't happen here. I'm just
telling you and I don't and I don't. I don't
care who decides that they need to talk to me
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about that. Wow, it won't matter.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Well, we're not in the business of public relations on
this show.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I go work for a PR firm. Yep, yeah, I
think we're not in a PR firm. I'm into building
strong relationships and partnerships. But also, when you quit asking
the tough questions, that's when your show sucks, and then
people can look and say you're not going to get
any fair answers because the guy who's asking the questions
isn't asking any is It's just kind of beating her
(39:33):
und oh Man al tuove he's hitting two fifty five,
but boy, we'll see him in the Hall of Fame.
Those aren't the questions that need ask Now. This is
during a baseball season, okay, and they're tough questions and
they need to be asked, whether the answer or not
on who. It's not just it's any It wouldn't matter
what the sport or who the guest is. So have laughs,
have fun. But I'm not in it to buddy up
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every week to anybody. I'll be their friend when it
comes there. There's that fifteen minutes. This is you answer
what you want to answer. But if you're looking for
a softball, go find somebody who doesn't have the credibility
in asking it, because it won't be.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Me fair enough. Here here as it is the Sean
Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety seven one three two
one two five seven ninety the number to get in.
I will continue with more Astros conversation next right here.
As they win yesterday five to three over the A's
and sweep that series for The Sean Salisbury Show continued,
(40:30):
I guess now it's a wait and see on Christian Walker,
which is a bummer too, given what we've seen up
from him with the bats in recent games. The home
run the night before yesterday takes the pitch off the right.
I think you said middle finger knuckle, but he said, now,
it's just dealing with the inflammation, and well do we
know how that goes?
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah, Dan, it's uh, it is a bummer. Hopefully we're
back on the injury thing. Hopefully it's short term okay,
and you can get him back out there, because he
looked like he's starting us to feel it a little bit.
So I'm sure it'll be a question we get to
ask next week. Well, we'll see.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Yeah, he did say he is going to be good
to go. That is what he said in the clubhouse
yesterday after the game. Hopefully that's the case. Yeah, let's
hope that that's true. Let's hope it's true sooner than
later and hopefully right away. And if it is, then
no big deal. It's not an injury. He's banged up.
Big difference between hurt and injury. Injury. You're out hurt
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sometimes you got to play through it. So let's hope
that that's the case. Absolutely all right, So let's get
into the astros in the race for number two. When
it comes to the pitching staff, we'll discuss that. Here
is hour two gets going next right here Sean Salisbury Show,
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Five to three over the A's and sweep that quick
two game series. The Rays coming into town for four
games over the weekend, the Thunder moving on to the
NBA Finals in five games over the Timberwolves. The Pacers
trying to close out the Knicks tonight in New York.
They are up at three to one in that Eastern
Conference Finals series. Some one three, two, one two five,
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seven to ninety is the number two jump in and Sean,
as we get back into the personnel discussion with the Astros,
pitching has been a constant topic of conversation with us
here and for good reason, because it's been really good
for you this year and you're hoping that continues to
be the case as you move forward this season.
Speaker 10 (44:45):
But I threw out.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
Something a little bit earlier in the show, and we
can get into it right now. It's the race for
number two because I feel like with the performance you
got yes day at a Lance mccullors junior and what
we can know about him from his past when healthy,
that is an important caveat to throw out there because
that has been an issue with his career. He can
take over the Renel Blanco spot in this rotation. Blanco
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was giving you about the same results whenever he would
take the mound for you, he was giving you five
innings or so. I mean, I know, a couple of
starts before he went out he had an eight inning performance,
which was really nice to see, but for the most
part he was living in that five getting into the
sixth inning range. Lance mccullors can take over that spot.
Now it comes down to who are your two other
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guys in the rotation where you probably believe that now
you can go with a five man rotation at least
for the foreseeable future. Colton Gordon absolutely up for conversation.
Ryan Gusto a guy that's been yoyoed all season long,
but now he's a starting pitcher for you. That's a
guy that's competing. And then it's who are you going
to get at the trade deadline?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, I mean you mentioned the two options. Aren't those
the two strongest options to.
Speaker 7 (45:56):
Be four and five for right now?
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Lord? Yeah? I mean so knowing now that two of
your five starters are out for the year. You're hoping
now that mccolors is back. That's what you saw yesterday
and you don't know, I mean just how and when
effective wise, Spencer Ragetty's going to be when he'll be
effective when he comes back. You guys good and young
(46:20):
and young people recover pretty well. But there's no doubt
that with the two of your guys out for the
year that finding the four and five will be important.
You know those aren't just throwaway starts. Those are important
every single week and every time they come up. But yes,
knowing this now, you are going to because the odds
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are at some point this season. Hate to say it,
but odds will tell you that some other starter is
going to miss a starter or two.
Speaker 7 (46:52):
They just are.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
So the depth was so once again you needed Kokuchi
trade deadline. You needed a body, and that body was
really good and not just a body, but a body
that can get stuff done.
Speaker 7 (47:06):
You're going to have to go out and search that you.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Just are because right now there's more wonder than there is.
No brainer. Now the bullpen has been spectacular. We know
what fromber and Hunter Brown bring and hopefully this is
more lance than you know. His start number two this year.
The other two still a crap shoot, Gordon and Gusto
not knowing, you know, as they get in and maybe
(47:30):
settle in. You don't know. But there's still ifs and
then the if of okay, well what if this happens?
Then what do we do? So right now, I mean,
I know you want more power And every year we're
having this conversation. Every team's probably having the conversation, especially
when it comes to pitching in depth. Yeah, as it
stands right now, because the chances are you're you're going
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to need another big and another starter who can log
innings and be really good, because the chances of the
five guys that are going to be run out there
being the five guys in September day every single time,
the statistics would probably tell you that that's that's not
it's not gonna be easy to get to that. So
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if a guy misses a start or you know, is
on the IL for ten days or two starts, then
what well, you scramble around And I trust the organization
when it comes to finding ways to develop, they just do.
They develop players. Guys that are from your JP France
shows up two years or whatever it was ago then
a Ronelle Bloco shows up last year and you're hoping
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somebody else, But guys, you got to go get the
One thing about it is you keep parting with assets.
You did it for Kokuchi last year. We've seen this
in the past, and it's going to take it again.
If this is a World Series aspirations team, which I
believe it is, and we haven't even seen them with
their best baseball yet. So yeah, Dan, that is something
(48:57):
that I would imagine. That's when you go to the
whiteboard in their little scouting or talent evaluation room or
what the needs are on the whiteboard, there's we need
another starting pitcher.
Speaker 5 (49:09):
I would imagine that exists well, and that is something
that immediately gets the mind wondering of who is out
there as a possibility. I got a name that is
at the top of my list, and it's a familiar name.
Charlie Morton on a one year deal right now with
the Orioles. He's making fifteen million dollars this season Sean,
but his first six outings he was zero to six
(49:29):
with a ten ERA, twenty one AR twenty four and
a third innings pitched. His last seven outings one and
one with a three point five seven era with twenty
two and two thirds innings pitched, somebody that can get out,
somebody that can log innings for you, and obviously two,
even though there's a lot of different faces in the
clubhouse from the last time he was here, somebody who
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knows that clubhouse very well.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Yeah, you hope that the ladder of the two is
who the Charlie Morton is and the guy city loves him.
He's been lights out here. He's had a good career
wherever he's been. For the most part, Charlie's been a
pretty clutch guy. The question is do you think that
who is he? Is he the early season Baltimore guy
(50:13):
or this guy? And I think fans believe he's this guy.
And then once again, when you come to this city,
it seems that whatever the best is you're giving Kukuchi,
that's what you're going to get when those guys come here.
And familiarity does matter, and it's not overly costly, that's
for sure.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
Well, in the Astros currently, if my numbers are correct.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Baltimore struggling. They fired manager. I mean, the Baltimore's reeling,
you know with their I mean, you know when you
fire a manager, they're going they're going through their questions themselves,
so they may be willing to deal and work some
things too. So there you go.
Speaker 5 (50:48):
Well, I mean, and that's to your point. There are
sixteen games out of first there are eleven games out
of a wildcard spot. They've just lost too straight. It
doesn't seem like that's going to get back on track
this year for Baltimore. I mean, they did fire the manager.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Times.
Speaker 5 (51:00):
That's the hope that maybe you can get the twenty
twenty two Phillies where you fire Joe Girardi and you
bring in Rob Thompson and you think that things can
turn around, and obviously it worked out for them there,
but it doesn't seem like it's doing that in Baltimore.
And again too, I mean for an aging guy who
is on a one year deal, probably not gonna be
with you after next season, it's a win win for both.
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That number comes off the books for you to you know,
depending on how much money you take on that. And again,
I mean, we know he's a guy that can sometimes
start slow and pick up steam as the season goes along.
And more importantly, I mean I'm not asking for him
to be the bell cow of this rotation. I got
two guys that can already do that. I'm asking him
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to be somebody that can log innings for you at
the back end.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Yeah, and like I said, nothing but good feelings for
Charlie more than this town, and I think everybody would
echo those same sentiments. The question is if you're going
to go get him, which, like I said, you're not
gonna have to mortgae. It's not like you're gonna have
to trade four prospects or Charlie at this stage of
his career. But you do have to ask yourself, is
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he that piece? Is there somebody else who provides more
that's gonna it's a veteran that innings and we won't
have to mortgage, you know, assets. We have again to
get a guy that hopefully is not a rental in
some cases, you know, like Kokuchie was last year, and
then it hopes you can keep him. But Charlie's had
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success here and I know this city likes the Mortons
and the Ulie who've had success even though they're along
in their career, and familiarity makes it easy to make
that decision. But the other side of it, you also
have to sift through it and say, well, is Charlie
Morton this Baltimore ool or when he was here, when
he was pitching somewhere else? Which guy is he at
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this stage of his career? And if you believe that
he's the guy who's pitching well right now, and we'll
do that for you, then you don't hesitate to make
a move like that, especially one that will be fairly
inexpensive when it comes to assets.
Speaker 5 (53:03):
I'd start making the calls right now. I think that
there is nothing that could be lost from that. I mean,
all you can be told is, hey, we're gonna wait
until next month. But I mean, if you're the Orioles though, too,
there's really no reason for you to continue to wait.
I mean, it doesn't seem like it's gonna get any
better anytime soon. All right, coming up right here on
the Sewn Salisbury Show. It's a topic we've talked about
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numerous times, and all we can say is not all
heroes wear caves. We'll explain what we mean right here.
It is the Thursday edition of the Shawn Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety.
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the OTA's practice field, Sean, a recurring theme here on
the show. Like yesterday we talked about driving and frustrations
with that. We've talked about before air travel, and that
is where we go today because I know that you're
a road trip guy. I'm a road trip guy. If
it now you know, like the Texans have the eighty
to fifty rule, they say they do, but if it's
(54:40):
above eighty degrees or it's below fifty degrees, well then
the roof is going to be closed over there in
RG Stadium. Mine for road trips as opposed to flying
is if it's about eight hours or less in a
straight shot, I'm driving Like that is happening. There's no
BUCkies in the sky. There is nobody sitting next to
me other than people I want sitting next to me.
(55:01):
I control my own music, I control my own temperature,
everything else of the sorts. It is much better than security,
everything else that goes into air travel. What about the
unloading the plane, the unboarding process that happens. We've shared
our frustrations with those two. You get the people who
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you're in twenty three, see they're in twenty seven, and
they decide, oh, I just need to get off this plane. Well,
so do I. You're in twenty seven, I'm in twenty three.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Well.
Speaker 5 (55:30):
The country of Turkey apparently is taking this into consideration
in offering punishments for those who violate said rule. Under
Turkish ruling, which was approved by the Turkish Directorate General
of Civil Aviation, all cabin crews on flights landing in
Turkey must alert passengers of the new instructions. Passengers will
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be warned they must respect the disembarkation priority of passengers
in front in a world around you, or you will
be reported to Turkish authorities and an administrative fine will
be imposed in accordance with the applicable legal regulations. Fines
for the line jumpers and for the people who immediately
(56:16):
get up as soon as the plane hits the gate.
These are all frustrations I do share, and I am
for it.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Good for Turkey. There's the flights now ruined by sometimes
flight attendants aren't having their best day, and it's like, well,
if you don't like ask when somebody asks for a
glass of water, then why are you doing this. You're
in the customer service business.
Speaker 7 (56:40):
It's your job.
Speaker 1 (56:41):
But on the other side, I wouldn't want if I
was them have to deal with the fans. You deal
with when I say fans, the customers, they can be
a pain in the ass. I'm all for it. There's
no doubt the guy who wants to sprint up and
move as if the people in front of him didn't
have a flight to catch as well. Okay, yeah, we
all want to get off, we all want to stand
up there. There's no doubt the flights have become I
(57:04):
cringe at the customer that they're going through all that
stuff now. Honestly, even if you you know, got the
TSA stuff, you can go through the other line, which
you do because you don't want to have all that
I'll see I'll see and I'll raise you one. I
don't fly unless it's an in and out, have to
be in for a meeting and back out that same
day or the next morning. I'm I'm out on the
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West coast, drive, be driving up to Monterey, be driving back. Drive.
If it's over I don't care if it's under three
hours or over three hours or over time. I'm driving.
And a lot of it is I bring my dogs
because I don't trust a dog hotel to take care
of my dogs for three weeks, and I don't want
to be without them. They travel and I travel. I
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won't unless I own a private plane, which I don't,
but you you know, sell a business and make a
billion dollars. I'd buy one just so I can come
and go as I want. I'm not a snob, but
I want. It comes to flying that part, I am
TSA and all that. The parking airports, how irritate you know.
You go to a candy store, everybody's happy, you go
go buy everybody's tame.
Speaker 7 (58:10):
You go to the airport, nobody's happy.
Speaker 1 (58:12):
Unless they're flying to Vegas, and then they're miserable flying home.
It's the greatest flight in and the worst flight out. Okay,
so it's to me the air travel's got gotten worse,
It's all.
Speaker 7 (58:23):
It's gotten worse. So and I don't like.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
A lot of rules and regulations, but Turkey's got it right.
If you're going to be that dumbass in the back
of the plane that's pushing and shoving because you've got
to catch, well, the person in twelve A has one two,
so stop it. And it's miserable the person next to
you and there and then you don't know what smells
and who snores, and who wants this and to have
to get up and go to the restroom. I'm telling
(58:46):
you now, dude, I don't care if it's the twenty
I drive. I can't remember the last time unless it
was a business important flight or where I flew for leisure.
I load the truck up and I drive. I like
stopping at certain places along the way. I like seeing
the countryside. I do fly. I mean I used to
fly all but when I was at ESPN, did I
flew two hundred thousand miles a year.
Speaker 7 (59:08):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
It's a even if you fly enough where you're sitting
in first class, just the whole hassle I don't. I
have no problem driving. A matter of fact, I don't
remember the last time I took a vacation flying. Hell
until this, I remember the last time I took a vacation.
So there's gonna be more of it because it's we
all need it. But I have no problem if I
don't have to be there in an hour or two
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hours or three hours. I'm flying, I mean I'm driving.
I am driving truck. People are like, oh, that miserable
trip across Texas. Yep, I've made it a million times
and I'll make it a million more, So I'm with you.
More stipulations you can put on customers that are dumb
asses on a plane or in an airport and they're
always irritable.
Speaker 7 (59:50):
Put it on them, okay.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
I'm okay, put the stranglehold on them to stop them.
I don't mean literally to stop this stupidity. But yeah,
when it comes to that, there's a few things. I
it's not high maintenance that just bug me, and airlines
and parking at airports and frivolous crap drive me nuts.
Speaker 7 (01:00:06):
I'll get in.
Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
I can come and go as I please with my truck,
and they don't have to rent a vehicle when I'm there,
and that's a pain in the ass. You know how
that goes. I'm driving everywhere. If I go to Fenway Park,
I get back a week, I'm driving it. If I
go to Cape Cod, if I go to San Francisco,
if I drive to Montana or any vacation, they will
be in a vehicle. I'm driving. I'm not flying there
unless somebody wants to do what they did to Trump
(01:00:29):
give me a brand new plane for free, or you
know I could afford to buy one. We have all
that kind of money. Yeah, that's luxury because my dogs
can come on that private plane and I'm good to go,
and I can get there and don't have to deal
with all the nonsense. Yes, that's the high maintenance part.
Other than that, I'm pretty casual about it. I'm driving.
My dad loved to drive. I love to drive. I
like seeing little diners along the way. You miss too
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much in an airplane. As long as I don't have
to be there quickly, I'm driving. Period.
Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
Well. It's also you know that I'm a big rules
and exceptions guy, and the exception here for me is Yes,
like you said about connections on a flight, the person
behind you, Hey, tap on my shoulder, say, hey, do
you mind it? I know that I'm in twenty six.
You guys are in twenty four. Do you'll mind if
(01:01:18):
I go in front of you because I've got about
ten minutes to get to my flight and it's two
terminals away. My response every single time you do that,
go go.
Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
I'll help you get your luggage down. Absolutely, I'll help you.
I'll help I'll tell the person in front of me that,
hey man, this person I got it.
Speaker 7 (01:01:33):
There's no issue. It's the one who.
Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Shimmy's through that you. But usually what happens, the one
who's pushing their way through isn't trying to catch a flight.
Speaker 7 (01:01:42):
They're just impatient.
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
The one who's trying to catch a flight will literally
tell you, hey, man, would you mind like we all have,
I'm fifteen minutes away from catching this flight, and I
can't miss this because there's no other connection. Of course,
here the path for them. Man, take a sprint, here's
your luggage, have at it. But it's it's it's the
impatient why you're doing that. I mean, listen on every
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flight and it doesn't it seem over the years, for
whatever reason, it's gotten worse that people are far worse
on flights than they ever were. I honestly, I get
such there's traffic gets me. Very few things get me
in a bad mood to the point I don't. I'm
not a bad mood very often. I'm pretty pretty easy.
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I kind of like life. And it's we make, you know,
the stupid stuff that gets all what we all do.
But I'm usually a pretty good mood and love and life. Man,
We've got a good life. But I can tell you
this like other people. Because of other people, I can't
stand and they nickel and dimey at airports and I
I can't remember the last time I went to an airport,
no matter even if I was flying to go on vacation,
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which has been years, I can't remember the last time
I was in an airport and thought, man, I'm in
such a great mood.
Speaker 7 (01:02:53):
Because even if.
Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
You are, like you're going to Hawaii for a vacation, somehow,
some way, somebody standing in line for food, somebody waiting
in line to get on the plane, somebody on the
plane will get to a point where it's like, well,
you ruin my good mood. So I'll just come on
in a bad mood. When I get there, I'll change
my mood. So and that's why in planes, like we've
talked about, I don't I'm not a big verbiage talk guy. Okay,
(01:03:19):
I'm a book a book guy, and let me read
and I'll buy eight magazines that I want to read,
and I'll read a book, and I just I'm just
not a talker because I don't want to get you know,
because once you dial in, if you got that one
person who wants to talk for four st eight hours
and you needed like a cat nap or you need
to study something, you ain't getting it. So yeah, I'm
not a gotten to the point where I'm not going
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to the Airport's not my favorite thing. Let's just put
it that way. So I'll drive.
Speaker 7 (01:03:45):
I just as soon drive.
Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
And if it took me four extra hours, it's four
extra hours less of stress. I cannot. I'm to the
point I almost despise going to airports. Now, Well, don't
even get You've had a lot to do with that too.
The virtue signaling. You know the guy that the virtue
signals that you want to punch in the face. Yeah,
that one, Yeah, that that ruined it, and now it's
almost as.
Speaker 7 (01:04:07):
If airports are they're just I.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Don't see many happy people at airports, and I like
to see happy people, so I just usually stay away
from it so I can drive on driving simple now.
Speaker 5 (01:04:18):
I mean, and don't even get me started on the
people who crowd the jetway in terms of you're in
group five and they're calling group group three, get out.
Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Of my way.
Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
And then the ben horders. That's another one of people
who because bag fees are a real thing, we're finding
that in even more about a more local airline this week.
But I mean, all of those things, Hey, you know
you're supposed to check that, pay the extra thirty dollars
and check it or just don't fly. Oh right, you
know I didn't want to pay. Okay, Well then put
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it in your car and drive.
Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Yeah, I mean you can fix that, right. And it's
it's just there's just so many little things that become
big things for me. Not the least of which is like,
you know, the delays, and if you're going it's on
in one place, it's just like it's flying. And then
if it's not direct, I'm sure going to drive because
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stop it in Chicago for weather and going there and
get direct flight. It's just like, you know what, by
the time you guys do it all, I'm six hours
into my drive. I've enjoyed it. I could stop at
a diner and I can. I don't have to worry
about if I overpacked fifty pounds of luggage, doesn't matter.
I got a big old truck and we're going and
I'm enjoying the hell.
Speaker 7 (01:05:30):
Out of it.
Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
If I'm in no hurry, I'll take two extra days
to get back. I'll do whatever I gotta do. I'm not.
Speaker 7 (01:05:35):
It's no rush.
Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (01:05:38):
I only rush when I have to.
Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Now, I'm not rushing for an air flight, and I
don't that's you know, that frenzy of like, oh my gosh,
we got to get there an hour before, and I'm
the guy on an international flight that'll show up an
hour and fifteen minutes before and then wonder.
Speaker 7 (01:05:50):
Why I'm pissed? Right, So now I just I just
get rid of all.
Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
That and put my key in the Ignition and drive. Brother.
Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
I prefer it because I can go on my schedule. Yeah,
I'm on my time. I'm not this world to do
you any favors.
Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Man I'm here and you know that. Man, I'm out
of town and i've been It's all. It was all
drive all the time, So I will have covered a
lot of real estate between now and the time I
get back. So I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
God bless you in that windshield time, Randy Brad Brandon.
See all you guys right there. We'll get you guys
involved in the conversation. Get back into the astros. Here.
It is the Thursday edition of The Shawn Salisbury Show
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 10 (01:06:30):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Do you say the list is plenty or of plenty?
Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
Plenty plenty? A lot of times I feel like when
you're speaking it doesn't have to be proper grammar, and
if people try to correct you on that, those people
are jerks.
Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Because Steady, it sounds too far when you say, oh, man.
Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
Right, I'm not speaking the King's English.
Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Here right there? You go?
Speaker 7 (01:06:53):
Gotcha, Yeah, gotcha?
Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
Yeah, So there you go. The list is plenty. We're
gonna go with that. I'm sure somebody will correct us.
But what are you gonna do? Someone? Three two and
two five seven nine. You get it fired up on
the phone lines. Know a lot of you want to
get in on the astros discussion, So we'll start this
morning with Randy. Good morning, Randy, Hey, Good morning, gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
How y'all doing very well?
Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
Appreciated, Buddy good good Hey.
Speaker 13 (01:07:16):
Enjoyed your discussion about Charlie Morton. I found that interesting.
But you didn't bring up Javier or Garcia as pitchers
who are going to be available as the season goes on,
maybe in lieu of going out and picking up somebody else.
So what's the latest on those two?
Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Jabber is not going to pitch this year? I don't think, Dan,
do you have any other updates than that.
Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
That's that's the the.
Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
His name doesn't even come up.
Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
Right, that's the impression. That's the impression that I get
this year with him, Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
But hell, who the hell knows when it comes to
astros and injuries. Don't know, but I don't think he is.
And I asked Dana Brown yesterday and he said late July,
early August for Garcia, So by mid August, so you
will more than likely at least the schedule says that
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they plan on happ having him, and that would be
for the stretch run. I wouldn't count on Vier this year.
Don't know how much you're going to get out of
Garcia if he stays on schedule and it's late July
early to mid August type thing. But if you do,
that'll be a great bonus. And that's how I'd look
at it. A bonus to get Garcia Javier in twenty
(01:08:35):
twenty six more than likely.
Speaker 7 (01:08:38):
And if Garcia can give you and he's.
Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Fully healthy and gives you the quality stuff bullpen and
or starting and that, then you know at the end
of the season, but you're not going to see him
before your kids back in school more than likely.
Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
Well, I mean, and you mentioned Garcia. I mean we're
saying the same things with him we've said about Lance
mccullors junior. And that's why I feel like the trade
market is where you have to get your fifth starter,
because the last time that Luis Garcia pitched was May
the first of twenty twenty three. If we're let's just
take data with this word right there, late July, early August, Sean,
(01:09:17):
that's the same deal as Lance mccullor's. He won't have
pitched in two years.
Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Yeah, And then then you take it. Then you start
to work into it by that time. We're in October, right,
So for me, I'll just tell how I'm approaching it.
Speaker 7 (01:09:29):
If Garcia is there, fit.
Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Ready and gives you a mccullor's twelve strikeout game when
he comes back in mid and whenever they tell me
early August, I'm going to suggest that you probably should
plan on mid August. Then I'm going to say, well,
what a bonus it is? I personally me, I'm not
counting on Garcia to make an impact in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (01:09:52):
If he does, I'll take it.
Speaker 14 (01:09:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
That doesn't mean I don't think the guys that have
packed the pitcher I hold him in high regard. But
after two you and then coming back and trying to
fit a timeline in for a twenty twenty five season,
and where you get, you know, August and summer, September,
and if you're fortunate enough to be playing in mid
to October, great, But if you get him, to me,
(01:10:14):
it's that bonus. It's that check you didn't expect in
the mail, that residual income. Oh that's right, I forgot
about that man boom this comes in. Yeah, then then
then then take it. Okay, But if you're counting on
the fact that Garcia is the piece that in twenty
twenty five is going to take us over the top.
If that's your if that is on your bucket lid,
(01:10:36):
I mean, that's on your on your agenda and you've
got it marked down, I think you'd probably be wise.
You're probably going to stress a little bit more if
he if he's able to give you good Garcia and
be healthy, I think it's just a bonus which gives
them a little latitude and bandwidth. But to me, it's
twenty twenty five seasons. Success is not going to be
(01:10:58):
based on Garcia and a hobby here. I don't think
you're going to see him this year. That's just me. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:11:04):
I mean and again too, I mean just to you know,
go off of what you were just bringing up about
Luis Garcia. I mean you're already trying to build up
Lance mccolors and been told numerous times be patient. It's
gonna take time all of this. I mean you're talking,
let's just say it is that August right there. I mean,
that's not enough time to be able to get that.
(01:11:25):
That's that's a bullpen arm at best. I would think
if you're counting on anything from him this.
Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Year, And I mean, what exactly the way I feel.
Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
With where your issues are with this, with this pitching staff,
it's in the starting rotation in terms of having capable
arms at this point. Bullpen is fine. I've got those guys.
I've got Caleb Org back there, I've got Steven Okert.
I've got a couple of guys that we haven't talked
about today that have been unsung heroes for that group
this year, Sean Dubin and Bennett Susa been fantastic. So
(01:11:54):
I just I think that you're probably counting on both
of those guys for the twenty twenty six season. Brad Brandon,
see you guys right there. We'll get you guys involved. Also,
one thing I do want to squeeze in with the
Astros conversation is is it time up regarding this guy?
We will talk about it right here. It is the
Sean Salisbury Show on a Thursday, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 10 (01:12:15):
Let the celebration start or Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
It was another opportunity yesterday for Brendan Rodgers to be
able to start at second base for the Astros, and
the glove has been fine. The problem has been the
bat so he has had sporadic playing time ever since
he was getting rather regular playing time in the middle
of this month. He has not gotten a hit since
the Cincinnati game, the final game of that series, where
(01:12:46):
he went one for four. He has gone oh for three,
oh for four, oh for two, oh for three, and
oh for two yesterday, with the at bats not looking
anywhere close to being competitive or anywhere close to what
you want out of a guy that is going to
be counted on in this lineup. It's abouting one ninety
four on the season. A homer ten runs batted in.
(01:13:06):
I almost think we're to the point here, and I
know that we're past the May first deadline where his
money is now guaranteed for the rest of the season,
but you're getting to a point where these roster spots
are so finite and you're trying to get as much
out of this roster as possible. You almost wonder if
it's time for someone else.
Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Yeah, what do you I mean? You brought him in
and you you remember Dan For any of us who thought, well,
this seems like a good addition, Gold Glove winner, pretty
decent hitter, and then the people who were who fought
that and said, yeah, but look where he played.
Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
That.
Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Everybody hits in Colorado, right, you remember reading that a
lot and hearing that a lot. Yep, and they weren't
so struggling with the bat. I don't know what they're
going to do. This team's been relatively patient with veterans
or people who struggled did come from somewhere else, and
you and I both know it. We've seen it, so
(01:14:06):
I get what you're saying. But in one hand, is
a couple hundred at bats for now? I understand a rookie,
but for a guy who's been in baseball for a
few minutes enough are you concerned about depth? Even though
what we've got three three guys basically rotating it, you know,
at second base when needed. But is the bat? We
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know he's got a good glove. I don't know when
the winner if they'd make a decision roster wise with him, Dan,
I'm going to air on the side of this team's
more patient with players than expected, or then maybe fans are.
But the production he's going to make the decision a
lot easier if it keeps up correct. Oh, absolutely going
(01:14:51):
to make the decision easier, and nobody wants to. I mean,
nobody hates struggling more than the guy who's struggling, I
assure you. But the contribution's got to be there because
if you can find somebody, you know, put it this way,
I'm going to have to have more production because if not,
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you can find anybody to hit like he's hitting, is
what basically you're saying. I think. So, you know, they
may have to make some tough decisions on it, but
this team has aired on the side of a little
more patience and maybe they think that they see something
that you don't day in right now that somebody else doesn't.
But the bat's going to have to improve. Well, there's
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no doubt.
Speaker 5 (01:15:35):
As far as I'm concerned, Mauricio Dubond has beat him
out for that playing time and that's does it advise
you though, No, it does not at all because of
how well he's swinging the bat. You know that he
also too has a goal glove at many different positions
the utility player, so you get roster flexibility in that
regard to But I mean, you know, is there an
answer with somebody else? Brad might have that answer, as
(01:15:58):
we'll go to him right here.
Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Good morning.
Speaker 6 (01:16:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:16:03):
I mean, uh, Dubon is a utility player. His purpose
is supposed to come in when needed, if somebody's injured
or somebody needs to take a break. He's not a
regular everyday player. I think this guy, Shaye Wickhamb on
the triplay level, he's tearing it up and he's getting disrespected.
(01:16:27):
I think I know he came up for just a
little bit. I think you bring him up. You just
let Brendan Rodgers go, and this way before the trade deadline.
Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
You see if Shae Wickhamb can.
Speaker 8 (01:16:40):
Tear it up up here, so you don't need to
make a move at the trade deadline for another second basement,
because I like I said, Dubon is a utility guy. Ben,
Now you're taking now who's gonna be a utility guy?
But I think Shae Whitcomb deserves and not just once
every week.
Speaker 6 (01:16:59):
Bring him up.
Speaker 8 (01:17:00):
Let him play like four or five games in a row.
See what happens. I mean, all you can do is
be no better than Brendan Rodgers. But I guarantee you
he'll be a lot better than Brendan Rodgers. I don't
think they it would hurt. Do you think it's gonna
hurt him. I don't think it will. So anyway, that's
what I got, all.
Speaker 5 (01:17:17):
Right, appreciate the call, Brad. I mean, if you're doing
if you're going that route Sean, as we saw last
year in the late season game with Whitcomb, you can't
really count on him defensively, So I mean that does
have to factor in. But to Brad's point, does have
sixteen homers in a Hitters League two sixty four with
a nine to twenty five ops. So if you are
looking for the offensive upgrade at that spot, well then
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clearly he does provide that for you.
Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
There's absolutely no question about it. There there is no
question about it. There's competition and there's heat there. And
I always had the rule, I don't really care how
long you've been in the league or how sure you've
been in the league. My twenty plus best twenty four
to twenty five. That's so I'm playing so and that's
who's on my roster. I don't feel, you know, the loyalty.
(01:18:06):
If you're not performing, that's your job and you have
to look at it. I can be patient. I understand
new venue and new organization, but when it comes to it,
I always dare I say this in sports, in football
all the time. If the rookie, if the veterans playing
like a rookie, play the rookie, makes sense? Or play
the young When I say rookie after about young player
(01:18:27):
right right? If somebody is continuing and I don't mean
it disrespectless, just when people talk about that at quarterback,
well you play the four year veterans, let the rookie sit.
Can you imagine if they were saying that in Washington?
What would happen to the commander's future? Even know what
Jaden Daniels is. So if the veteran plays like a
rookie and a rookie plays like a veteran, or if
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the veterans playing is making mistakes that a rookie should
be making or is not performing like a veteran, play
the young guy.
Speaker 7 (01:18:58):
I have zero issue.
Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
I'll always well, what if he loses confidence, then you
shouldn't have drafted him in the first place or trade
for him the first place. So that's the case, So
I'm all for it, give me my best. I'll be patient.
I we got things to work through, but I'm not
going to keep making for anybody the excuses or well,
it'll be okay two years from now, he'll be better.
That's not me. If I got fifteen guys that are
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young that I got to play, then I'm playing it.
It's okay or KG veterans. I am building for what's now, don't.
I'm not worried about twenty twenty nine. I'm honestly, and
I never do. I'm worried about twenty twenty five and
heading into twenty twenty six. And right now he's gonna
have to play better to get run. And if a
young guy's playing better, then you may have to consider
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that run. But the question is when win's the run
up and you know Brendan, he's going to have to
he himself is gonna have to stave off some people
that are actually playing better, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (01:19:54):
Well it's also too I mean, you know, somebody brought
up a trade possibility. I mean, as I said earlier,
you pretty much have one crack at this and it's
got to go to your starting rotation. If you are
making a position player deal at this point, you're going
to be getting somebody that probably is not much more
of an upgrade when it comes to that, just with
what to offer.
Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Where you're gonna put it. I mean, I know you
can always use it, but but you're talking to me.
You're not talking about a frontline, superstar, everyday player. That's
why I say pitching as well. I'm with you, But okay,
who are you gonna go get? What play? Are you
going to go get that? You're not gonna have to
give if you get a great player. Guess what you
got to do, Dan, You give up some assets. You
got to give up some people, and people start going
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after the people that you know, your your farm system
and your good players, your top prospects, and they'll probably
try to get pitching from you. You know want you
don't want to give that up. So where where do
you go? Right now?
Speaker 7 (01:20:48):
Is it going to start over? Al Tuvey?
Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Whoever?
Speaker 7 (01:20:50):
You go get no first base? Maybe that's fine.
Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
We've been having that cop Christian Walker starting to get better,
Paratus is dialed in. They love Jake Myers. Cam Smith's
your right fielder for now tomorrow in the future. You've
got your catcher, your three, I mean, your shortstops playing
like an m VP. Where are you going? You got
dozenzo you go get? You know he can fill in
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it a handful of different positions. So you've got a
d H when he's healthy, whatever that is day to day.
So what everyday player are you going to go get
that would make that could turn it be a star here,
but you'd have to give up a whole bunch to
get him. So, yes, you'd like one of those guys,
but where's he gonna play? What are you gonna have
(01:21:36):
to give you? So if you go get a star,
does that mean Dezenzo and Wit come in somebody and
two other players do? Regardless of where you get the star,
you're gonna have to give those guys up. Are you
willing to do that? Now? Are you saying?
Speaker 7 (01:21:47):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
So if you're gonna just go get a warm body,
you've got a few of those. Du Bond's versatile. I
mean you you've got players. It's pitching because in truth,
unless you're willing to give up a lot to get
a star player somewhere, and it's hard to get star
players then, and where's where's.
Speaker 7 (01:22:03):
He gonna start?
Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
And starting right field, not starting the center field and
starting a third base. The good first base and are
hard to come. You ain't going to get to get them.
So where are you going to get them, So, yes, pitching,
or you're gonna have to give up a lot to
get that star guy who under contract and he's underperforming
somewhere and you get him here. That's great and fine
and dandy. But to get a guy like that, you're
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gonna have to give up a lot, And in order to
keep your guys, you're gonna have to do it the
right way without mortgaging your future.
Speaker 5 (01:22:34):
Well, the need is defined. I don't think there's any
doubt about that. And it's also too you're dealing with
what actual trade chips do you have to be able
to get said need, So I don't necessarily think that
a second addition to the house can be made here.
Brian sheen Up, Brandon, see you guys. We'll get you
guys involved here in the eight o'clock hour. Also to
Chris Gordy normally joins us on Thursdays at nine o'clock.
(01:22:57):
Today is going to join us at eight thirty. So
we'll get into the third hour of the show right here.
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Speaker 5 (01:25:13):
They get the raised in town for over the weekend
thunder and move on to the NBA Finals in five
games over the Timberwolves. The Pacers trying to do the
same tonight against the Knicks, up three to one in
the Eastern Conference Finals, as they'll play that game in
New York. Someone three two one, two five seven ninety
is the number two. Get in. I want to continue
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the conversation we were just having here to close out
our number two. We'll fire it up again with Brian
in Paarland. Good morning, Brian, morning guys. Hey real quick.
Speaker 9 (01:25:45):
I know the you guys are talking Brendan Rodgers before
the break, and I know you got if you need
a left handed bat I just looked at him.
Speaker 16 (01:25:53):
I know he's not blazing trailby. Do have I think
Lewiski or man.
Speaker 6 (01:25:57):
Down there who could be another.
Speaker 9 (01:25:59):
Utility if you wanted to put you know, do bond
in more permanently or spread him around a little bit
more to give guys days off. And then you also
got Bryce Matthews, who I think is bat in two
fifty two sixty and who was supposed to be one
of your stars of the future, and yet you yet
to call him up. So I'd be curious to maybe
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bring up those guys. But doesn't Britain and Rodgers have
an opt out himself, like a June first opt out
or something like. I know you had a like three
opt outs in this contract. It was a weird way
it was written, but I think he had like three
three different opt outs after spring training May first and
June first. Maybe that he could opt out himself and
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still get paid, but you know, I don't know if
he would.
Speaker 5 (01:26:44):
If he would take that.
Speaker 9 (01:26:45):
But you also got to find a way to keep
Carotenis bat in the lineup, and you know, maybe he
gets to start the next couple of days if you're
gonna give Christian Walker a little bit of a breather
at first, But it's hard to get that bat out
of the lineup when he's when he's as effective from
both sides of the plate as he is. And you
got to assume at some point you're gonna get your
on back and you're hoping whatever the ailment was that
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he had is gonna hopefully lead to an increased average
when he comes back, and at least having that fear
in the lineup. So I mean, you got options at
Triple A. Why they're sitting there and and Dan, I
know you had poster. You guys have posted something about
Charlie Morton on X.
Speaker 16 (01:27:23):
I'd be I'd love to think it'd be a great deal.
He's making what fifteen million kids find a way, I
guess to work out that money situation. But I think
for the rest of the year he'd be perfect here.
Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
You know, we can at least.
Speaker 16 (01:27:36):
Get you into the fifth inning, sixth inting at look
at the status with Baltimore, but I'm sure he wants
to get out of there.
Speaker 5 (01:27:42):
But for the rest of yeah year. Yeah, Brian, you're
breaking up a little bit there. Appreciate it. With h
With Rogers, his opt outs were at the end of
spring training past that same deal with me the first
in June one. He's not opting out of his deal.
I mean he's got would you right?
Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Why would you?
Speaker 5 (01:28:00):
You've got two million on the books for you right now?
If they keep you on the roster, don't make their
job easier for them. In that case, it's one of
those if you're Brendan Rodgers, you want me out of here,
You're the one that's got to get me out of here,
not myself.
Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Well, not only that, I would Brinton Rogers has some pride.
Speaker 7 (01:28:18):
I mean, you're getting paid.
Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
You you don't want to waltz in here and say, well,
I'm getting paid, but let mean, let me opt out
of this thing.
Speaker 7 (01:28:26):
Don't you want this to work?
Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
You're in a good organization with a championship caliber team,
with a good group of players, good dudes, and you
don't want it. Well, it didn't work the first couple
of months, So I guess what, I'm fifty five games,
so it's time for me to top down in Bolt Why?
And I wouldn't imagine no disrespect. There's a long line
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of people standing waiting for him to come join them.
Correct for for production matters.
Speaker 7 (01:28:54):
Correct absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
I don't think I get the idea of what he
was saying, But I would think that Brendon Rodgers gonna
wants this to work, and wants to be playing more
and wants to be productive and wants to be all
a part of it. I don't think we're in danger
of him wanting to get out right now? Well, and
why would you?
Speaker 5 (01:29:15):
And he brought up gill Or May Giormey is a
light hitting second baseman and he also can play other positions.
But I just don't really feel like if if that's
somewhere that you would go, well, then you're better off
keeping Brendan Rodgers. And yes, things have started to pick
up a little bit after the concussion for Bryce Matthews.
But you also wonder if they feel like another year
of seasoning is in the cards for him and then
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next year having a chance to make it out of
spring training. Only time will tell on that. Sheena and Sugarland,
Good morning, Sheena, Hi, good morning.
Speaker 12 (01:29:48):
So first I want to get to the Brendan Rodgers,
but I probably missed y'all talked about this earlier. I
wanted to just call out how amazing my Colors was yesterday.
You know, I was watching both game cast and and
the game and just the pitches that were sworn at
six inches out outside the zone chasing and then even that,
you know he misses with a high fastball in and
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they strike out because they're expecting it to break. You know,
just amazing production, amazing game from him yesterday. Do want
to talk about the Brendan Rodgers conversation, you know with
the one caller earlier that about Dubon being a utility player,
when you Dubon is raking like he has been. You know,
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he's got I think a little bit of a hitch
streak going, but he's been very strong to pass like
three series at least.
Speaker 5 (01:30:38):
You're going to keep him in the game.
Speaker 12 (01:30:39):
You're not going to wait for somebody to need a
rest day or somebody to be injured to get him
in there.
Speaker 5 (01:30:44):
You're going to find a way to keep him in
right now.
Speaker 12 (01:30:46):
Second base is that place, because you got Jake Myers
has been swaying good back, camp Smith has been swaying
good back. Dezens has been swinging a pretty good back.
McCormick's been picking up some and showing some really good swings.
So second basis where you're putting Dubon. I would hate to,
you know, dfa Rogers right now, because Dubon is still
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your utility guy. You know, Penya gets hurt, Brettis gets hurt.
You know, he's the guy that you need to go
in and fill those positions, and then you need to
have your second basement. And having a veteran guy on
the team as opposed to another call up from from Sugarland,
I think is also important. We don't know what type
of you know, support and help to the team that
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Rogers is given off the field as that veteran presence
as well, So I think that's something that you know
to consider here. Shay Whitcomb, I believe was Raking last
year in Triple A and we brought him up. I
think he played about twenty games, hit about two twenty
and made some defensive errors and misplays as well. So
I'm not crazy confident about just bringing him up right
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now either, Just go on it.
Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
Yeah, great point in the stability gives you defensively is
something that I think that they that it matters to them.
And you're right if somebody else sort to go down
and you have to move Dubon to be permanent at
that position. And with that, there's one thing about a
utility player that I know, the ben Zebras of the world,
you know what they want to do. They don't want
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to be a utility player. They want to play every day, right,
they want to play it there. But they do their
utility because they're versatile and valuable and that they're they've
been able to master it and elevate their game to
another level because you can stick them at you know,
five different positions, which is great as as every single
one of us have played little league or played football
or basketball. The more you can do parents, the more
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you can do, the more you can do it makes
you more valuable. What value you bring it well, Dubon
brings value because I can stick them anywhere quite frankly
on the field, and he can play it in the sands,
catcher it, he can, he can survive it. So there
is a there, there is a luxury and versatility. But
if you ask Devan Dubon, if he's every day player,
what do you think he's saying? Damn right, I am right.
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And if he's earned the everyday spot at second base
and somebody else is going to have to fill in,
or he stays there untell if you were to have
somebody get hurt for two weeks, then he can go
back to being that versaal guy and going handling their position.
That's the luxury of being talented and being good enough
to be able to move around. But forevery utility. Get
Ben Zobrist all the years he was doing it, Zobras
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wanted it. There's no you would like to lock in
and play a position every day. Now playing every day
at a different position, still playing every day. But we all
want our secure home where we get that's my place,
and I would imagine Dubon's the same way.
Speaker 7 (01:33:38):
But because he's a great team player.
Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
But yeah, while you have versatility and you have depth
at second base. Now you're an injury away and Dubon
having to move for you not having the depth or
production at that position you want, because then you're putting
out two v there full time and not playing any
left field. I mean, so you're moving things around. It's
great to have a versatile Swiss Army knife. That Swiss
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Army Knife usually wants to play every day, don't we all?
But the Rogers luxury of I don't have to train anybody,
even though the guy's bat struggle and I know what
I'm going to get from him at second base would
probably prevent me from DF and the guy.
Speaker 5 (01:34:15):
As well well. Fair point, But I mean it's also
I've got to be able to count on the guy
with the bat, and for right now, what I'm seeing
with him at the plate, it's not something that I
can count on.
Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
Yeah, but think about it, go back before Jake Myers.
Is this Jake Myers the way he's hiding if he
hits two ten, Guess who's playing center field every day?
Jake Myers, Sure so. And they've said that it doesn't matter.
And Steve Sparks admitted as much on our show when
he said, I don't care if the guy hits sub
two hundred. If Jake he's playing, it's a luxury. If
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he's hitting two thirty, right, And there's just certain positions.
So maybe Brendan Rodgers becomes that guy. But you can't
have four of those guys because then you're limited. Then
your production's in trouble. That's the problem. Well, Jake, Jake
is hitting you know, ho around three hundred to ninety
to three hundred right now, So that's a good thing.
So the second base production, you're not going to get
nine guys all hitting it once when you do talk
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about luxury. So yeah, you just don't want five guys
that are hovering around two ten or two fifty. But
Jake's elevated his play, and I would imagine Rogers feels
like he can too, with with you know, more and
more and more at bats. But there are certain guys
you're going to keep around not just for their bat,
but for a presence, and that provides you some security,
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even knowing you don't have to babysit them every day,
and I think that's important to some.
Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
Well, it's just also too I want all nine guys
if ideal to basically I can count on with the bat,
and I mean you shorten your lineup to about seven
guys that you can pretty much count on, well, then
you're shortening your chance.
Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
But isn't that really But isn't Dan, isn't that really
what we go through anyway? For sure, not here but everywhere. Right,
you'd love to have nine, and you'll get nine. And
you know when you score twelve runs in a game
or eleven runs, and you would you'll get that. But
in truth, most teams games, even the good, even the Dodgers,
have their struggles at times at the bottom of the order,
at times the bottle order, their talents enough where their
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ninth guy could hit second. I get it. But for
the most part, everybody in the league's complaining about I
wish we had nine of them, but were playing with
the six man hitting lineup and the other three got
to pick it up. I get it. And but you
don't want you don't want them to be the case
all season long.
Speaker 7 (01:36:21):
There's no doubt, no.
Speaker 5 (01:36:22):
Perfect player, no doubt about that. What about the guys
that aren't with the team right now? And Dana Brown
joins us every single week here on the show, let's
discuss some things that were talked about yesterday here on
the Shawn Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety of this
high fastball mis mc caller' junior. If he is just
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an Astros you're listening to Sean Salisbury, I'm Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
Nine Lance callers.
Speaker 7 (01:36:48):
How about the performance.
Speaker 5 (01:36:50):
Your home for Houston Astros baseball. But Sean, something that
we've talked about and once you revisit again as yesterday
and of course Wednesday here on the show, we have
Dana Brown joining us every single Wednesday at nine thirty,
and a couple of guys in particular were brought up
with Dana during the discussion and first and foremost we
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wrapped up the conversation at about nine to fifty. About
forty minutes later, the release came out that elbow surgery
done for the year. Expect him back next year. But
you asked Dana Brown before that information was released about
Renelle Blanco and this was his answer.
Speaker 1 (01:37:29):
Yeah, Blanco had.
Speaker 11 (01:37:30):
The second prit, second prit, second prit, second prit, second prit,
second prit, second prit, second prit, second prit, second prit
in And we're going to talk to the doctor at
some point this afternoon, but he had this second opinion,
and we'll have an update probably uh at the end
of the game today since we have a day game.
Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
So there you go. Well, all of that came before
that happened, Sean, and you asked him the question, and
he decided to answer it the way that he did.
Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
Yeah, was all that was that on purpose? The way
we went to his second opinion, That was pretty clever.
Speaker 5 (01:38:04):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
It was a a in the system.
Speaker 5 (01:38:09):
Yeah, I was gonna say it was a timely coincidence.
Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
I guess, Yeah, we have worked.
Speaker 7 (01:38:15):
I mean it was classic.
Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Yeah. Well the only thing I can deduct from what
we were told at nine five and what came about
an hour later instead of after the game later in
the afternoon talk to the doctor that they knew when
he was on the air that Renelle Blanco has done
for the year and decided not to say it until
more people were around, and when they decided to say it,
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which I don't get our show or somewhere else. I mean,
we are one show. He does regularly love Dana Brown,
always transparent, but yesterday we might have missed the mark
on a little transparency.
Speaker 11 (01:38:53):
Four.
Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
He's is out of the loop. And it's hard for
me to believe that a gentleman manager is at a
loop on injuries of key players, let alone everybody. So yeah,
I just You're going to get asked questions and I'm
going to continue to ask him, and I it makes
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you validate the disdain fans have and media have for
the way you're talked about injuries. Remember Kyle Tucker had
a Bruce shin for seventy plus games, but it was
fractured and we knew it the first week and it
took them, you know, fifty games or sixty games to
tell us. But no problem, it's never personal. That it
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also does is now that when somebody gives me an
answer at nine p thirty on Wednesdays, when Danny does
about an injury, that won't be enough. I will if
I'm not a softball guy when it comes to asking questions,
and I won't be. And now it just means that,
I mean, now just kind of have to dive deeper.
So when you tell me, well, it's day to day,
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I don't know what that means. They're gonna tell me
we're going to do it this afternoon. I'm My next
question is going to be this afternoon meeting one o'clock,
this afternoon meeting eleven forty five. Is that the morning
or this afternoon meaning five o'clock is the dinner times?
Speaker 7 (01:40:13):
At lunchtime? Is at post breakfast?
Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
That that's where I'll be going because you know you
asked the question if you knew Ronel Blanco was out
for the season, because I sure didn't fit the timeframe.
We're going to find out after the game. We'll talk
to the doctor. And before the game even started we
had the news that Ronew.
Speaker 7 (01:40:32):
Blanco was out.
Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
Yeah, so softball questions won't be asked, never have been
by me and never will be. And now it just
it just makes you realize why you know you ask
hard hitting questions, and now the the I won't be satisfied. Well,
they can do whatever they want with their answer, but
just to tell me that we're going to talk about
it later won't be enough. Now it just won't. So
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team fan here when it comes to the disdain for
and I understand protecting your players, I do, but I
don't know where the protection came in forty five minutes later,
when you could have simply just said yeah, it looks
like we may be losing for the season. We're going
to try to validate that at some point today. Hopefully
we're wrong, but that's what it looks like. And then
you know, so if you know the answer and you
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get asked the question and you're a weekly visitor, probably
pretty simple to answer it. But everybody has their way
of going about it. But it's just if you thought
you got hit between the eyes with hardcore questions before this.
It will continue and I may not get the answers
I want to hear, but by the time fifteen minutes
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is over, it'll be exhausting because I will probe as
deep as I possibly can to get answers for fans.
That's my job, and I will continue to ask them well.
Speaker 5 (01:41:48):
And you know, there was another part of this too,
which we played audio earlier about Spencer Arraghetti, where Dana
led it to us to believe that the splint cast
whatever he still had on his thumbs still there and
go and started throwing program next week. Well then we
came to find out that he played catch on Tuesday
and addressed the media yesterday. Spencer Raghetti that.
Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
Is, yeah, I don't even know how to respond to that.
Dan other than it's it's I don't get it, and
I don't know what the big secret is. I understand
if somebody gets hurt the very first day and we
don't know because we haven't had MRI or results. But
I almost feel at times the fans that were ahead
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of them on knowing the decision before they announce it.
Just like with Kyle Tucker, there was no way on
God's green Earth, any normal human being that has any
kind of one ounce of toughness misses seventy plus games
with a bone bruise a contusion. Okay, hockey players don't
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miss five minutes because of a contusion. So we knew
it all along and said it, and sixty games later
validated on the fact that, of course it's a fracture.
It's not a bone bruise. It's a fracture. So yeah,
I mean, hey, you can approach anyway. But I love
having love our Wednesdays.
Speaker 7 (01:43:11):
They love them.
Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
But when it comes to injuries, if you thought you
were pressed before that, it's gonna you may have to
just say no comment by the time I'm done with
these interviews now, because if you know Ronel Blanco was
going to miss and forty minutes later you decided to
say it after you left the show. Then I don't understand,
but I don't have to, and nor do they have
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to explain it to me. But they nor do I
have to explain why My questions are going to be
just as hard hitting between the eyes as they've always been.
But just if I got to keep them over time,
that's exactly what I'll do to get the answers. But
or do I Am I supposed to come up with
a deduction that? Man, how's the general manager not know
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that Renelle Blanco's done for the year? But he did
it ten What am I missing here?
Speaker 5 (01:44:02):
All right?
Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
And Dana is too dialed in not to know? So
I guess you chose to wait to tell people Blanco
was done, But you were asked the question. And that's
all we can do is ask. But I'll ask eight
times if that's what it takes. So and you'll have
to put a muscle on me, and that still won't
stop me. So and regardless, So, Peter, if you don't
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like tough questions, I'm the wrong guy to come on with.
Speaker 5 (01:44:25):
Well, that's our job is to ask questions and try
to get answers to the audience. I mean, that's why
we're here, and that's what people want to know when
it comes to this team, especially with some of the
topics that we've touched on with him in recent weeks.
And we'll continue to do that. Speaking of touching on topics,
we're gonna do that next our Thursday visit with the
Gordatron Chris Gordy, Cursey a Carbock Brewing. That's next right here,
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Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 10 (01:44:49):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (01:44:53):
It's courtesy of Carbock Brewing with the Gordatron Chris Gordy
joining us as Gordy. A lot of good things that
talk about with this Astros team. Let's start first with
yesterday's win. How about Victor Carrottini.
Speaker 6 (01:45:07):
You are just determined to make a Gorda tron a
thing that nobody else is making a thing. But I digress, Dan.
Speaker 5 (01:45:14):
We'll get there, We'll get there. It'll it'll wash over
you and everybody else.
Speaker 6 (01:45:19):
I just to think anybody, no, nobody, nobody's gonna make
fetch happen. Man. But the uh no, you you mentioned Karatini.
Speaker 12 (01:45:26):
Man.
Speaker 6 (01:45:27):
It's what's been so fun with this lineup, has been
seeing all these numbers start to creep up the last week.
I mean, we saw, you know, Jeremy Pange has been
batting right about three hundred. He's been your best hitter.
You know, Jake Myers still batting around two ninety three.
That's great. But to see Karatini come up to two eighty,
to see Maurice Yo Dubaun come up to two seventy six,
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even Josel Tuve, you know he's been in two sixty seven.
Now do you guys realize a week ago he was
batting two thirty eight. In the last seven days t
is not one but two home run games, and since
last Tuesday he's got fourteen hits. I mean, that's just
it's insane. You know, they say hits coming bunches. But
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that's what's been so crazy to see is that this
lineup just as a whole. All it took was playing
a series, a four game series against Seattle and then
playing a two game series against the Aids, and all
these batting averages have dramatically improved in the past week.
But Victor Kartini, you see why, He's a guy that
even when yannar Diez is catching, they're deaching him a
lot because they like his bats so much they want
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to keep it in the line up.
Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
Gordy, we're about a third of the way through the season.
Do you believe this is a World Series team?
Speaker 6 (01:46:41):
Lord, It's so hard to say that because for a
World Series team, you feel like you got to have
at least four reliable arms, and right now you really
only have two. When you get Spencer Getti back, that
will help.
Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
We'll see.
Speaker 6 (01:46:54):
On Luis Garcia. It's nothing against mccolors, and he was
great yesterday and that was a huge step forward for him.
And Ryan Gusta and Colet and Gordon have certainly done
their best job so far. But I again to say
it's a World Series team, I just I don't have
the faith and the pitching staff right now. You know,
Hunter and brand and from Ravaldez are certainly good enough.
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But you know, in the offense, I think will come
around and get a lot better, you know, even better
when Jordan Alvaree gets back in there. But I think
the whole you know, the expectations kind of changed here Sean.
The last year or so, it used to be we
would say is this a World Series team? I think
now you look at it and say is this is
this a playoff team that can make a run? And
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I think that's how you kind of have to pivot it,
say well, yeah, this is certainly a team that could
you know, win this division, get in the playoffs. And
as we know, teams get hot. I mean, go look
at the Atlanta Braves a couple of years ago, the
Washington Nationals teams that got hot at the right time
and made a run. Right now on May twenty ninth,
this doesn't look like a World Series team, but certainly
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if they put some things together and they're clicking at
the right time going from September into October, yeah, absolutely,
this team is is a team that could could make
it deeper up.
Speaker 1 (01:48:06):
You saw how they did without Kyle Tucker last year,
played pretty damn good baseball. But if the yord On
thing is one of those things that just kind of
lingers throughout the year? Did did he plays a little
hurt and a little disc It's uncomfortable and he's not
the the yordon we've had in the past. Just this year,
what is that now? I'll ask you, is this team, uh,
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do they have the ability to make a run?
Speaker 6 (01:48:32):
Well, I think if It's if Christian Walker is pulling
his weight and starting to improve, and he's crushing bombs
east Okparatus continues to do his thing and hitting home
runs al Tuo, but it gets back to playing like
an MVP player like he's been playing the last week. Yeah,
I think I think this team can overcome a a
yord On Alvarez, uh, you know, not explosive performance. Now
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he's gonna have to produce something. You know, he can't
just be an over five with three strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
Every night in the lineup.
Speaker 6 (01:49:01):
But you know, I do think that there are other
guys on this team who could pick him up. But yeah,
it's I mean no doubt. We knew he was gonna
be a loss, losing you know, Alex Bregman and Kyle
Tucker and somebody else was gonna have to step up.
But so far, they so far, so good. Man. I mean,
Jeremy Paye is having his best statistical season, you know,
as a big leaguer, So that is a nice surprise.
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You're getting some great things out of camp Smith. Guess
does I feel like this kid is starting to figure
it out? When you look at what he's done in
the month of May, you know the season batting average
is up to two sixty one, but Man has been
He's been one of your hottest hitters so far this
month at three thirteen. So if he continues to figure
it out, if Jake Myers continues doing what he's doing, yeah,
(01:49:44):
I think this team could overcome not having Jodan Alvarez
be the centerpiece. But it would certainly help if he could.
If he could get back here and he's, you know,
back to being one of the most feared hitters in baseball,
it's only gonna make him that much more dangerous.
Speaker 5 (01:49:56):
Chris Gordy again join us for his weekly visit courtesy
at Carback bro here on the Sean Salisbury Show, and Gordy,
I threw out a name earlier when you start looking
at pitching options that are out there for this team.
Last time out on the mound, Charlie Morton's six innings
against the Cardinals a little bit of a slow star
for him this season, still on a fifteen million dollar
deal for one more year. I get where the Astros
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are with the CBT, but if that is a possibility
for you, if you're Dana Brown, do you do it?
Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
Man?
Speaker 6 (01:50:26):
I'd rather I'd rather make a move in all honestly,
I'd rather bring verlanderback on a on a half a
year rental than going again into Charlie Morton. I just
I just wonder if he shit that that proverbial wall.
I know he's had some decent starts as of late,
but still on the season a record of one and
seven and any over nine. He's forty one years old,
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he's had some some you know, history of injuries. I
just I don't know if that's the guy. I know
that the sentimental attachment, you know, with fans and being
a part of that World Series team and all that.
But I think I think if they were to make
a move for a veteran arm out there, I think
there are some other names they would look at, but
uh yeah, and they have no you know, they've shown
(01:51:10):
no propensity to want to add guys that have future.
Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
Money on the books.
Speaker 6 (01:51:16):
You know a lot of times you look at Kakuchi
last year. They made that move knowing it was a
half year rental. So I would almost say, if they
were to make a move for a veteran arm, that
would be the move to bring in a guy that's
you know, gonna be a free agent at the end
of this year, that that won't cost a ton of money,
that could just come in and help me eat up innings.
I think that's what they'd be looking at. I don't
think they'd be looking at a guy to be, you know,
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a number one or number two arm in the rotation.
I think they would just be looking at a body
to help come in and eat up some innings. Whereas
you know, right now you're looking at Ryan Gusto and
Colton Gordon saying, guys, we're gonna have We're gonna ask
you to pitch more innings than you've ever pitched in
your career. I just think that's a tough ass for
the rookies.
Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
So you do believe that there's a body outside of
the organization that they're going to have to go get pitching.
Speaker 6 (01:51:59):
Wise, Uh yeah, I think he almost have to. I mean,
I just because the odds are guys. Uh, here's the secret.
Hunter Brown's gonna get banged up at some point from
Arvalda is gonna be get banged out, like one of
those guys is gonna miss miss a starter or two
or miss you know, So, I mean, just relying on
those guys, Hey, you better stay healthy. We have no
margin for error here. I mean when I saw Christian
(01:52:21):
Walker get hit on the hands yesterday, I said, my God, like,
if he misses time, I don't know how much more,
how many more injuries this team can overcome, uh to
sustain the success, But certainly on the pitching side of things.
I mean, they there's a void there right now. Again,
nobody's saying anything because Gusta and Colton Born have been okay.
But let's say both those guys just go out there
(01:52:43):
and they're getting given up eight er and runs an outing.
I mean, then you're going back into the farm system
and going, all right, who else is down here? Who
wants the aj blueball you get up here? I just
think that's a tough ass for a team with postseason
aspirations to keep dipping down to the Triple A and
grabbing the next young arm.
Speaker 5 (01:53:00):
Well, go to this homestand has been awesome for the Astros.
They get four more chances to make it even more awesome.
Five and one so far. But for Astros fans, I'm
sure they're looking for an undefeated record, especially with a
Carbock browing Crawford Bach in their hands.
Speaker 6 (01:53:16):
Yeah, we were out at Carbach last night and it
was you know, it's a lot of fun hanging out
with some of our listeners came out to see us
and enjoying ice cool Crawford Bach. You know, paris perfectly
with Astros baseball, and I don't know, sometimes it just
tastes even better when you're there at the source at Carbok.
Where are you getting it right on tap in house
where they make it. And make sure you guys watch
(01:53:36):
An the Astros this weekend. If you're at the ballpark
or listening on the radio at home, make sure you
have some Crawford Bock in the fridge. And like we said,
goes perfectly with Astros baseball. And hey just feels like
every time you have a Crawford Bock the askers seemed
to win that game that day. So grab you one
today and let's go.
Speaker 5 (01:53:53):
Astros can argue with that. Thanks going to Sean, Thank
you good. I appreciate Chris already joined us for his
weekly two visits the Thursday one here on the Sean
Salisbury Show, we'll continue the Astros conversation because somebody I
brought up during our conversation with Gordy is somebody that is,
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Speaker 5 (01:56:31):
But especially with the work that he is putting together
this year after the work that he did last year,
it's almost coming to a point where you got runners
on and he's in that left handed batter's box. You're
counting on Victor Carrattini to come through.
Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
Oh. I don't think there's any question. I think he's underrated.
An important piece is any team to a guy who's
not your everyday player, but he feels like he should be.
I believe the guy's a starter in Major League Baseball.
I do. It's a luxury to have two of them
(01:57:05):
that can play. We know what Yainar diaz Is future
looks like pretty damn good, and his presence pretty good.
He still just hasn't got rolling yet. But that's what
the other guy's job is to do, is when you
need him to go in there and deliver. Some guys
are in that position, they deliver once in a while.
It feels to me like Keratinis that delivers all the time.
(01:57:26):
And let's not forget that behind the plate. He can,
he's a calming effect. He gets it. There's nothing he
doesn't do well he did, There's not a glaring weakness
in his game. I just I'm so impressed with him.
That's a guy who is stuck behind a young, big
time prospect, who's a player at catcher, who is growing
(01:57:47):
defensively and obviously offensively, has a twenty five ninety type
guy in in Yinar Diaz. I think Victor quarantine Victor
Carratini is a starter on quite a few other teams
in this league. I think he's I think his value
is not only recognizable, but I think he's one of
(01:58:07):
those guys. If you said, oh, we got a planthorugh
of catchers, we don't need him that, there would be
teams standing in line to grab him. Firstat ale at
the plate, delivers and he can deliver at first base,
he can deliver at DH and he can deliver a
catcher underrated. I know our guy Dubon gets a lot
of the credit for being that Swiss army, and I
think rightfully so. But I can tell you what, when
(01:58:28):
you're looking for a guy to come off the bench
and be clutch, I'm not sure Victor Karattini isn't isn't
a guy that you say I can I can win
a lot of games with him.
Speaker 5 (01:58:38):
He's he's impressive, and he's also been a guy that
you've kuinted on a lot more behind the plate as
of recent times because of what you're not getting offensively
out of Yanner Diaz. You saw that yesterday Yner had
to come in a little bit later on the game
as a pinch hitter and you were able to put
him behind the plate and put Keratini over at first
when you had to lift Christian Walker with.
Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
You think there's ever a time that Diaz isn't a
full time catcher, that he's a full time other position guy.
Speaker 5 (01:59:10):
Possibly, but he's got to get better at first base
if that's going to happen, because no doubt.
Speaker 7 (01:59:14):
Defensively, there's no question.
Speaker 5 (01:59:16):
Yeah, I mean, because DH has spoken for at least
until twenty twenty nine. And I mean you do have
future plans, I would guess, because you drafted him in
the first round for Walker Yannick. At some point.
Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
Yeah, I just and I think he'll develop into I mean,
it's just the bad He's going to be a really
good player and you know, we know how the organization
holds him higher guard. I just always wonder at that
position where the comfort level is. But right now the
versatility goes where Kartini can go over there and play
and you can put Yordas back behind the plate. He's
a catcher and he'll be a damn good one. But
(01:59:50):
for him, it's just got to get his his uh,
you know, his bearing straight at the plate where he's
more consistent. But we know what he brings. But Karatini,
it's not like when you go to the ball game
and you say, we're going to give Yuyaner a day off. Man,
I hope it works out. You don't have to worry
about that when you throw Caroteni in the lineup here.
As a matter of fact, you're saying, right now, we
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don't lose anything we got. We've got a guy who's
got some good veteran leadership and who produces. He's not
just a body, a warm body that you throw in there.
You expect him to produce. And I'll be damned, it
seems like every time I turn around, he's getting a
hit that matters. It's weird, and maybe I'm overstating it,
but it feels like that to me when I watch him,
(02:00:31):
I'm pretty confident. I'm pretty confident that he's going to
have a good at bat whatever that results.
Speaker 5 (02:00:35):
In, no question, and especially during this homestand he's knocked
in four runs and also had a three hit, one hit,
and two hit performance during the astros recent winning ways
where they have won five of the six games they've
played so far during this home stand at dyke In Park,
Jim in Most City wants to weigh in.
Speaker 14 (02:00:54):
Good morning, Jim, Yeah, Hey, guys wanted to uh, I
wanted to talk touch base on the Astros and a
couple of comments about the I guess trading four pitchers
probably the route that they're gonna have to go.
Speaker 17 (02:01:09):
If they wanted a bat, they would probably just go
and call up Melton or Bryce Matthews. I think they're
gonna have to get a starting pitcher to it to
do to get where we want to get. And then
you guys were talking about the injuries and as much
as we all want to know when these players are
gonna come back, is it nothing more than Dana just
(02:01:31):
doesn't want to show his hand because we're all interested
and I'm sure every other GM in the league is
interested in what the true state of the world is
on the Astros, because if he tells too much, then
he might be weakening his position and trade talks and
so forth. So I'm wondering if it's just, you know,
he's he's gonna tell us the bare minimum, not because
he doesn't want to tell.
Speaker 5 (02:01:50):
Us as fans.
Speaker 17 (02:01:51):
More, it's just he can't don't want to show his hand,
you know, as a GM, because everyone else is listening,
that's on the other end of a trade talk.
Speaker 5 (02:02:00):
So that was just my feedback. Thanks Jim.
Speaker 1 (02:02:02):
Yeah, Jim, I'm sure that that always, you know, always
trying to have your best leverage and bargaining position on
your side. But in the RENW. Blanco case from yesterday,
there was that there was no trade or anything involved.
It was just simply got to ask the question. Decided
to wait forty five for men that I mean, I
don't know, I mean, was there a time frame that
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they are not for you, Jim, but for them. It's
like when you ask the question at nine point fifty,
what's for now, Blanco? How is he? And it's like, well,
we're going to talk later after the game with the doctors.
The second opinion and then within an hour he's on
the shelf and out for the year. Having Tommy John
Yeah that I don't think that was to guard against
worrying about what other general managers and organizations think about
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a trade. But maybe that's just etched in their DNA
that we're going to overprotect talk less, same minimal hope
that we get him back and we're just going to
keep giving the pad answer, which is what they do
in a lot of cases. With jord On, they put
it in his lap, with Blanc always out. But I
guess the frustration for us is you had it, I
mean to let people know, and I would imagine for
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fans and media, is that what happened in forty five
minutes to change your opinion or to change your timeline yesterday?
There wasn't either Either you were out of a loop,
which I can't fathom, or you just chose to did
you do? You really didn't say what you believed about
the Renel Blanco situation yesterday. I don't know what. I
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don't know how else to deduct it, and I'd sure
hate for being able to get for to go up
there and have to talk about today saying well, you
know what, maybe the GM's not in tuned with what's
going on in the rest of the organization. The GM
should have a finger on the pulse of everything that
goes on, and I'm assuming Dana does that.
Speaker 7 (02:03:48):
He's pretty transparent.
Speaker 1 (02:03:49):
I love our visits, but doesn't mean I have to
agree with everything he says or or the way they
go about it. And I sure as hell didn't agree
with the way we got the answer from Blanco and
within an hour, not after the game, not later on,
within an hour, we were told that renew Blanco was
done for the year. Had that opportunity at nine five.
What change between ninety five and ten forty five yesterday.
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I'm not sure, but Jim, I think there is. As
the season goes on close to the deadline, sure people
are going to protect their you know, try try try
to be as as the protective as you can so
other teams you don't devalue your trade opportunities. This had
nothing to do with that. This was just a simple,
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cut and dry question and a cut and dry answer.
But I guess it wasn't as cut and dry as
we thought.
Speaker 5 (02:04:38):
Well, and it's also two trade secrets. Teams know who's
healthy and available, and teams know who they want to
be interested in or who could possibly be out there.
So I don't think that has really.
Speaker 1 (02:04:47):
Well, I'm not trading for him if they don't pass
the physical anyway. So it's a mood point there you go,
and trying to hide that.
Speaker 5 (02:04:53):
Stuff for sure, for sure, Charlie, Anthony Brandon, see you
guys right there. We'll get you guys involved. Hour number
four of the Sean Show. Right here, Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Five games over the Minnesota Timberwolves, the Pacers trying to
close out the next tonight, Game five of the Eastern
Conference Finals, and the Texans back on the OTA practice field.
A little bit of Texans conversation coming up in this,
but the Astros are the top of you guys want
to join it in on it right now and you
can do so se one three, two one two five
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seven ninety. Let's keep it going with Charlie in Metarie
wants the weigh in here. Charlie, good morning, Good morning guys.
Speaker 18 (02:06:14):
I first want to say I really enjoy the program.
You guys are really informative.
Speaker 15 (02:06:19):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (02:06:19):
My question, Sean is.
Speaker 18 (02:06:23):
I know for a fact that in the Superdome there
are two guys that take X rays for all the ballgames,
for the Saints games. So I assume that the Astros
have something like that within the stadium and they can
get instant results just forward of those digital pictures to
us to their doctor team doctor. But really, as Damer,
(02:06:47):
has your dying gone to a hand surgeon? Not just
the primary care guy, but is he going to a
hand surgeon? And what was that guy's diagnosis? He's hiding stuff,
just like they hid in top injury. So I think
you could back them into a corner and try to
get some more concrete information on the injury.
Speaker 5 (02:07:10):
I know they like they have to hide.
Speaker 18 (02:07:11):
Stuff, but come on, you know you've got thousands of
fans that pay for tickets and stuff to go to games,
So it's an honor system to me.
Speaker 1 (02:07:21):
Yeah, oh, we appreciate the compliment. And I dived Charlie
as deep as I can, you know, short of asking
what the doctor's name and where we can go, because
that's that starts to get into hippolaws right where they're
not going to give that information. But you know you
can keep asking and keep asking, and I think that
in this case. And yes, X ray machines are usually
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in ballparks or you know, close by, but when it
comes to like a Renel Blanco in his situation, X
rays aren't enough. I trust me. I've got an ankle
that needs fuse together. You can go get an extra
that and tell them enough. So you've got to get
in an MRI machine. There's much deeper dive the x
rays were back when you and I were growing up. Now,
the x rays to tell you if something's wrong. The
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MRI's to dive deeper when it comes to Jordon, so
they they that stuff and you got to wait till
swelling goes down. All that with Jordon. Listen, I mean
I've asked him, and you make a good point. Yes,
you put him on the spot to a point of okay,
how much how much deeper. Can you go other than
we're now to the point of Joe Spot and Dana Brown.
(02:08:25):
It is on Jordon. It's him, it's his threshold of pain.
So it's no longer does he got to pass the
test from the trainers? Does he have to go see
a doctor? And by the way, with Renel Blanco, whenever
a guy never goes and gets a second opinion if
the first opinion was in your favor. Ever, I've never
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been oh, because you want the first peeting says you're
good to go. Hell kick good, I'm good to go.
I don't need it. Let me get to rehabit or
surgery whatever. They always go to the second Jordon win, Jordon,
Renelle Blanco went and got a second opinion. We all
should have been alarmed and should have known that this
wasn't on the good side. Going to get a second
opinion because you didn't like the answer from the first doctor.
(02:09:09):
That's commonplace and no brainer. So we see. I mean,
I don't know if we saw full season loss coming,
but you knew a second opinion was not good news
in the case of Jordon. You know when it comes
down to especially this and you make a good point.
My man is, but the structure and soft tissue are
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two different things. Structure you can see it, torn ligaments,
you know, the hams, you can see it. But it's
a different approach than the rest and relaxation and the
things that you would do structurally for surgery. You know
you may not have to do for a soft tissue.
So yeah, with you with Jordon, I mean, now it's
taken out of it, and I've asked how long, what
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is it? How deep is it? I literally said, is
it structural? Are we sure it is soft tissue? About
three weeks ago I asked that, I said, right when
it happened, or we were about five days or so
in Dan. You remember before I left on vacation, I said,
is it soft tissue?
Speaker 7 (02:10:06):
For sure?
Speaker 12 (02:10:07):
We know?
Speaker 1 (02:10:07):
Yes, it's soft tissue. There is zero structural damage. None
was the answer. We got none. So when you give
you that, man, I get there's I don't know how
much deep you can go to say, can we go
to the doctor's office and look at the MRI ourselfs
So they have gone through when you're talking about your
prized dude, from X rays to MRIs, they have looked
(02:10:29):
the MRI. You have to look at to find out
is it structural or is it soft tissue. You just
have to so we know they've done that part of
it and they're not going to be negligent in that.
Where the negligence, and it's not even negligent, isn't right.
Where where the lack of transparency comes in is when
they tell you this and you know it's a fracture
and sixty games later it's not a bone bruise on
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Kyle Tucker and with jord On now it's apparent that
it comes down to his threshold. Not when the trade
says he's okay, it's when Jordon feels he's been cleared.
We've seen this in sports. He's cleared to play. The
question is can he handle it? And that's where we
are and that's the only question only Jordon cauld answer. I.
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I don't even think Dana Brown could answer that. And
you look and Joe Spota because it ain't the pain
on their hand. So and yes, you need your hands
to hit and it matters, but if the inflammation continues,
then they'll have to look deeper, diver the hurt. Should
we say the injury still bothers him, then they'll have
to look into it. But this has now become a
Yordon thing according to the Astros that it's just based
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on him. If he wakes up today and says, I
feel great, they'll put him through a simulated game and
within a day or two he'll be playing. But that
hasn't happened yet, and who knows when it will? And
are they when the injury first happened? Do we know
if they told us everything you need to know. No,
and you're never going to get that out of a
team for the most part. But there are certain things
(02:11:54):
I just don't get the secret. Certain things with Renelle
Blanco yesterday, there is zero reason in my mind unless
you had an obligation that you're doing a national interview
they had to do ob this zero obligation in my mind,
or zero reason when you're asked the question in nine
forty five, did you say, well, we're gonna go and
and it's later this afternoon, after the game, we'll talk
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and get to the doctor. He got the second opinion
when you're more than likely knew within an hour you
were going to tell the world Renel Blanco was out
for the Season's that that's my disdain When it comes
to that stuff. I don't get all the secrets. I
get the secrets early. I don't get the secrets late
when everybody knows. Second opinion, something's wrong. I think the
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timing was kind of weak yesterday, and I think that
we probably could have known earlier.
Speaker 5 (02:12:40):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's certainly not for a lack
of effort of you asking the questions. I mean you
ask him, it's it's on him on how he answers
it at that point, and you bring up yord on here,
and this is something that I just can't shake. Do
you feel like this is a little bit of a
slippery slope putting this on him? Like you know, it's
it's Dana, it's Joe.
Speaker 1 (02:12:57):
Hey.
Speaker 5 (02:12:58):
You know he tells as he's good to go, Well,
then you know he's good to go. Then it's like okay,
well you know the player. How are you feeling, I mean,
do you feel like it's it's a little bit on him?
Speaker 1 (02:13:07):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (02:13:07):
Cool, not a little bit. It's all on him.
Speaker 1 (02:13:10):
But it's also the way if the organization has cleared it,
they can't he said, well we're not clear. You know,
even when they're talking about and say, well you know
they're gonna they'll get together and they'll talk about it
and converse about when he says he's ready to go.
But Joe and Dana have have said unequippcal. You can
go listen to the quotes. It's on Jordon Alvarez. So
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for whatever reason, whether we think it is or not,
whether they intend it to or not, it's and I
confess it's on him. Now this takes the stress away.
It's not on our doctor, it's not on our on
our trainer, it's not on me. It's not on Joe,
it's not on the backup to the d H. It's
not on anybody. It's it's not on It's on him.
(02:13:51):
And there's yes, some will take it. It's a simple fact.
Some will take it it's I confess he did it.
The longer it takes, it's Jordon's toughness. Not are we've
been straight with this, Not that they're intended to put
it on your I don't think there's any disdain for
each other with that. But yes, it becomes a slippery
slope because now if he's out two more weeks, they
(02:14:12):
can just we don't know what's their answer. Then right,
well you're not, because what happens the longer it goes,
you know, we see just like with Kyle Tuckery, you
know we all did. I did? I said, what kind
of professional athlete in baseball, a non contact sport unless
you're hit by the ball like he was and fouling
it off his shin? And this is I think we
(02:14:34):
all at least question this at some point. What kind
of guy misses seventy games with a bone, bruise, a bruise,
a contusion. So there was part of us it started
to question, is Kyle tucker soft? We all did I did.
If you didn't, then you you weren't paying attention because
(02:14:55):
you know what, Like I said, I've never met a
football player who missed a game due to a contusion. Okay,
so you take a shot, you take drugs, you take
for whatever whatever it is. Whether you like the fact
that I'm saying this or not, the fact of the matter,
if we've all done it, man, I'm a little sore
dude here, take this shot or take this drug? Oh okay, cool,
Now I can play. So we start to question when
(02:15:15):
you put it in their lap, because I'm gonna tell you,
it keeps up three more weeks. I saw it on
Twitter this morning. Trade Jordan Alvarez because he's always going
to be hurt and he's not He's not tough enough,
he doesn't care, he's not a team player. I'm paraphrase,
but those words were in Twitter this morning. So what
happens when you put it on the player? There is
that danger? And when you keep telling us last year
(02:15:37):
with Kyle Tucker, tell you tell me, be honest with me.
Was there any point in time that you question whether
Kyle Tucker was tough? Of course you did. If you didn't,
then you were paid it. Because there's no way if
you're gonna if I get hit with the baseball today
and it's a contusions at even at my age, I
ain't missing seventy games, dude, I'm just sorry. I'm not
so to defense of Kyle Tucker. It's almost like if
(02:15:59):
you're Kyle Tucker, like, yeah, I understand, but can can
we please tell them that it's a fracture, that it
isn't a contusion, because it's starting to make me look
like I don't care and I'm not tough enough. I
don't want to be in a lineup, and that will
happen with yourd on if this is a two more
weeks away, it's already started to happen. And we know
he's tough, we know he's been banged up, but the
guy's a great player. But when you put it in
(02:16:20):
the player's lap, now the onus is off. You ain't doctors,
ain't trainers, ain't us. They ain't transparency. It's that guy.
It's his threshold of pain. And the longer the threshold
of pain can't get him on the field because he's
hand is sore. What do you think? People start to think? Yeah,
damn and I question and the first time ever Kyle
(02:16:43):
Tucker five tool guy been durable as hell thirty games
in on a contusion. Oh you know it really hurts
when you Yeah, yeah, of course it does. But you
know what, guy's been hitting the rib cage within a
one hundred mile an hour fastball and broke a rib
that didn't miss seventy games, So you knew ten days
in this wasn't no contusion. Hell, take a shot, wrap
(02:17:05):
it up and go play. After a two games, mister,
a series seventy plus, you do damn well twenty in
that this was not anything less than a fracture or
some kind of break with jord On. They say it's
not structure. I'm believing them in the case of that,
it is one hundred percent now according to them, in
his lap, not theirs.
Speaker 5 (02:17:27):
Well, it creates a lot more questions when I don't
really think they want those questions being asked.
Speaker 1 (02:17:31):
But if we give that answer, that's the only question
that you can ask. No, absolutely, the only deduction you
can get it's on jord On. And if you the
more he misses, the more we question if his threshold
of pain's tough enough to handle it. That's what you've
created with this period.
Speaker 5 (02:17:46):
It's borrowing trouble when you didn't necessarily intend to do that.
But sometimes things happen that we don't intend to have
happened to us. All right, to Anthony Brandon, see you
guys right there, get you guys involved. Also here in
this fourth hour, I do want to get into a
little bit of Texans OTAs talk. Not a deep dive,
trust me, I promise you on that. As it is
the Shawn Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 10 (02:18:10):
There's a lot happening and he's got a lot to
say about it. Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety one,
Anthony and deer Park wants to way in. Good morning, Anthony, Hey,
good morning guys. Hey, I have a point I'd like
to make, and then I do have a question for
you off that's okay.
Speaker 19 (02:18:28):
Yeah, So my first my point is to dad to
what Sean was saying about professional athletes being tough, that
that point was proven last night Christian Walker got tacked
on the hand with a fastball and then immediately there
after hustled to break up a double play and then
scored second to home on a single of center field,
(02:18:49):
sliding in the home plate with the hand that just
got hit by a fastball. So I didn't really like
I didn't really care for the picture that the Astros
painted of Kyle for last year, and I feel like
they're maybe doing the same thing to yord On this
year and we're not getting the full story. But my question,
(02:19:09):
the Astros are going to obviously need to add to
their pitching debts at the trade deadline, and it's sounding
like the Brewers are going to be sellers at the deadline.
So I was curious what you guys think about a
guy like Freddy Peralta. He's a sub three e R
A guy for four and one record and his decisions,
and he's only got a three point one million AAV
(02:19:33):
on his contract and he's under team control till twenty
twenty seven. Just wanted to hear y'all's thoughts on maybe
bringing him to the Astros.
Speaker 5 (02:19:41):
Appreciate the call, Anthony, I mean, is Sean the shortest
chance I can give on that? Well, it would be awesome,
but for everything that he just threw out there, it
would absolutely cost you. And I just don't think the
Astros have the asking price to be able to reach
that ask.
Speaker 1 (02:19:56):
Yeah, and I don't think the asking price you're talking
about has anything to do with my It has to
do with assets and what you'd have to give up
to get Freddie Peralta who's Yeah, and they may depending
on what happens the next you know, month plus month
and a half for Milwaukee. I know they expected different,
but yeah, hell, now you're that's that's not just some guy,
(02:20:20):
you're just getting an innings user. Dan that that that
that's a difference making picture right and on a good team,
hell even better. So, yes, if you could pull it
off and you could get him on the cheap, but
once again, and the control is important, the AAV obviously important.
Those aren't the parts that now, Bobby, it'd be what
are you going to have to give up to pull
(02:20:42):
that off? And if you're going to give it up,
you keep doing that every year, I mean it becomes
even more depleted. But if you think a guy like
par Alta is the difference in getting you to a
World Series, and one thing about it is we're not
going to be the only team that would like a
guy like that.
Speaker 7 (02:20:58):
Well it comes to the trade deadline.
Speaker 1 (02:21:00):
The value for a guy like that, especially, the value
goes up too because he's not a thirty million dollar
price tag and he's got control. So of course people
are going to be standing in line to try and
get a guy who's pitching well for a team that
isn't doing their thing well.
Speaker 5 (02:21:16):
And cheap and under control like that usually means it's
not only going to hurt, it's going to extra hurt
from the team because they're like, all right, what's in
it for us if we're moving on from this guy.
We're not giving up you know completely here, we're retooling here.
But how much does it mean to you? Because they
want to make sure that it stings you as much
as it's stinging them.
Speaker 1 (02:21:37):
Yeah. Dan, that's the one thing every year that we
come around with this and like we are talking about
getting you know, a pitcher last year in Kakuchi, it
was gonna hurt. You knew going in when you were
going to go get somebody that while it may hurt
the team that's losing, and it's it's going to hurt
you too because you're going to get and in his case,
you know, the value and the premium price took placed
(02:21:58):
on a guy who can get strikeouts and you know Lefty,
all those things that come into play, there's no doubt.
Speaker 7 (02:22:06):
So it's not just the.
Speaker 1 (02:22:07):
Well, well what does it do to them and how
does it help our team? It also comes in what's
the sting and the gut wrench that's gonna it's gonna
cause you some issues. Listen, the Kokuchi thing worked when
he was here. The problem is not keeping him. It
didn't work fully. I mean he was great. It didn't
work fully because three dudes are under control in Toronto
(02:22:30):
for a while and Kokuchi's pitching in Anaheim. That you
get my point. So it worked while I was here,
But what have they won a World Series and he's
been been a part of it. We would have said,
and we didn't even get to see him the postseason,
did we too soon? You didn't get to see him
there there you go. So that I loved the gig
(02:22:51):
and the way it paid off while he was here.
The problem is you didn't get the full payoff because
a world series and you said, yeah, but what about
three years from now. I don't care, I'll trade the
ring for three years of wondering anyway. I'll always want
the ring first, because that means we got to mix
and match for the next two years to try and
get it back. I'm okay with it. Give me a ring,
I'll read, I'll redo everything else. But yeah, Dan, that
(02:23:13):
was it didn't It wasn't the full path when it happened,
people questioned it. After about four starts, people said, this
is a good gig, and unfortunately it ended before we
got to see him in the postseason and what could
really go on? And then he obviously went, and he
was an early signing in free I mean he was
gone the second and I mean right away he had signed,
So it wasn't you didn't even get a chance to
(02:23:35):
get in the mix for a long term or you
weren't going to get in the mix anyway. So while
it didn't work, overall it did work, you just didn't
get the final payoff you wanted. So what's the case issue?
You go get a guy. It's not just what it
does to help your team, it's what's the sting And
it can be gut wrenching.
Speaker 7 (02:23:52):
It's not just a thing. Sometimes it's a.
Speaker 1 (02:23:54):
It's a fracture, not a bone bruise, Dan, how's that
it's not a contusion. And in this case, and people
aren't gonna just want to give the Astros cart blind
because first of all, they already know even with injuries,
the Astros pitching staff is still good. And you got
two front line studs, and then adding a Parola type
player would would would obviously catapult them. And the fact
(02:24:15):
that it wouldn't be a rentals a good gig.
Speaker 5 (02:24:17):
Well, I think you could say it would be both
soft tissue and structural.
Speaker 1 (02:24:20):
With there you go in and require a second MRI
and a second opinion.
Speaker 5 (02:24:24):
Yeah, yeah, all the above. Brandon. Let you in here
pretty quickly, Buddy, good morning, good.
Speaker 1 (02:24:30):
Morning, Sorry, I was playing a game. Are you cool,
I'm gonna I'm gonna win this game.
Speaker 5 (02:24:38):
Cool awesome, manight as as bad and right.
Speaker 1 (02:24:44):
Now for me?
Speaker 5 (02:24:45):
Okay, well, I mean he's been swinging it well for
the Astros, and I know you're happy without their plan.
Speaker 1 (02:24:52):
Your may head home one.
Speaker 5 (02:24:55):
That would be great as well. Yeah, there you go. Hey,
there's never a bad time for it.
Speaker 1 (02:25:00):
Get to hear your home run on a video game.
Speaker 5 (02:25:02):
There you go for sure.
Speaker 6 (02:25:06):
That he needs from Jurdon.
Speaker 5 (02:25:08):
Have we heard anything with your on? No, I mean
just with what Dana told us yesterday. I mean, still
waiting to see and Joe said it and gives him
the thumbs up and he's good to go. He's back
in the lineup. So we'll see if he gets that
simulated game in and is back in the lineup soon.
Speaker 1 (02:25:23):
Well on, it's all on Jordon now. They've cleared him
ready to play. It's just whether he can handle the pain.
So that's what it is. So we it's day to
day night and what is this ringer? Okay, Sean his hand, Well,
it's not okay yet because he's not playing, but the
doctors say that you know, the structurally it's fine now
(02:25:43):
because it's a soft tissue injury. That it's on what
he can handle. So whenever he says I'm either pain
free or I can live with the pain and play
through it, that's when you'll see Jordon in the lineup.
But until then, so it's not an astro's decision. Now
it's his.
Speaker 5 (02:26:00):
Yeah, But I was about to say.
Speaker 1 (02:26:02):
Say that, there you go. We'll see. We don't know
any more than you do about that, other than we
could wake up on the weekend and Jordan could be
in the lineup, where we could wake up next week
and he's still not in the lineup. Here's what all
depends on his pain threshold.
Speaker 5 (02:26:17):
All right, Brandon, appreciate it, man, we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1 (02:26:20):
Yep.
Speaker 18 (02:26:21):
So that's hit a home one office.
Speaker 5 (02:26:23):
Guy, get after it. Man, We'll leave you to it. Okay,
all right, So brandon't gonna hit a home run with
East sac preadis that is something that in real life
and in video games, we hope we always get to see.
Speaker 7 (02:26:37):
My day's made. That's been a home ru on his
video game.
Speaker 5 (02:26:39):
Right there you go, My god, Brandon's here to deliver.
Speaker 1 (02:26:42):
All right.
Speaker 5 (02:26:43):
Speaking of delivering, if you're looking for instant results when
it comes to this with the Texans. Well, then you're
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the Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven.
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We're the Sean Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (02:29:23):
I mean, you've talked about it numerous times with me
and me and you have gone back and forth about
you know, this time of the year, in the football
off season where you can wait a little bit to
get deep into the football conversation, and on this one,
I'm absolutely going to agree with you on because I'm
itching for football on the field as quickly as possible
(02:29:43):
like anyone else. I'm not watching the USFL or whatever
the hell else is out there. I can deal without it.
But we're in the middle of OTAs right now with
the Texans, and in terms of the talking points and
everything else news related items that could come out of there, well,
I'll go ahead and let Demiko Ryans explain what this
time of the year is.
Speaker 1 (02:30:04):
There's nothing going on right now within are guys.
Speaker 5 (02:30:07):
Everybody's just on their own schedule. All right, there, you go,
quick and right to the point, Sean. I mean this,
of course, was in response to being asked yesterday about
c J. Stroud not throwing, not going through seven on seven,
eleven on eleven, doing a lot of stuff on the
side whatever, That's fine, it's OTAs. I there is nothing
for me in our audience that I feel like is
(02:30:29):
interesting enough for us to be able to do a
deep dive into. I'm not interested in hearing about people
trying to be better today than they were yesterday. What
are you trying to do? Oh, I'm trying to make
my technique better. Great, that's awesome. Kaylon Bullock's wearing number
two now cool, awesome, love it. But I mean, aside
from that, everything else, you can leave all the talking points,
(02:30:50):
like I get everybody's got a job to do. But
I saw one headline yesterday, Will Anderson Junior trying to
work on his hand placement. Great that that absolutely is
something that I feel like can fill a show for
four hours. And we've gone over three and a half
hours without even mentioning other than headlines. What's happened over
at Kirby Drive.
Speaker 1 (02:31:09):
Listen, man, you're not getting much done in shorts and
a T shirt. It's more to me the mental learning process,
getting no teammates and play booking your ass off, so
you'd understand when you come back to the fall that
you're not left behind. Okay, I'm not finding anything out,
and it's a good time to work on mechanics and
technique like Will Anderson, it sure is. Now it's nothing
(02:31:31):
you can talk about until we see it applied when
a guy's got full gear on and going after it
how it works and how that technique and application. But
you're always working to perfect your craft when you're doing
lonely work, when you're doing work with your own team.
But there's nothing you're going to learn now, says Ooh,
that's going to be a great play in the fall. Well,
you experiment right now is the time. But I am
(02:31:51):
a big part of in these moments. Don't waste them
because every chance you get a chance to be on
the field a couple hours, hour and a half, it's
a chance to work on you, not really your your
well you're building chemistry and all that. I get all that,
But in truth, guys are coming and going there thinking
about that six weeks they're going to get off between
now and training camp and the you know, the vacation
or whatever they're doing. But when you're out there with
(02:32:13):
Will Anderson working on hand placement, where where's the best
way when I put this move on or I do it,
you know, I rip or I spend. Where's my best
place to put my hands? Yeah, no doubt hand placement.
You know your stance, quarterback and mechanics and and you're
but you're walking through a lot of conversation and talk.
So yeah, you can't make a four hour show, nor
(02:32:35):
would I try, nor would I care to try. On
an ota. Now a guy comes out injured, why are
we doing all that? But the listen. Showing up matters.
Just being around and listening is important. But to me,
it's all the mental stuff. So when you get the
training camp and they're putting eight passes in and four
runs and uh seven formations the first day and you're
(02:32:56):
a young player and you don't, you're like, well, what
were you doing between June and July that you didn't
even look at it? So now you've set us back,
but you've set yourself back, and now you're not giving
you the chance, the best chance to physically compete.
Speaker 7 (02:33:10):
That's what these are.
Speaker 1 (02:33:11):
Four See who's there, how we moving around, let's exp
we've got a new coordinator on offense, just kind of
getting going. But it's the mental part that you could
take a major advantage of, because when you go to
camp as a young player, you are so overwhelmed with
the mental and emotional part. Band what about this play?
What about that? I got to do this? The audible check?
What about this? If you can get out of the huddle,
(02:33:31):
you've got an eighty percent of it licked. Going to
the line of scrimms, you're not saying okay on the
curl flat ride of mount on the back side of
the front side. What is this again? Had you and
mentally stayed in it between OTAs and this, you wouldn't
have to because guess what they do? Practice number two
put five more passes in, six more formations, four more emotions,
four more runs, four more blitz pickups, and now you
(02:33:54):
got to say and and eight more coverages over the
two days. Now you're like, oh, okay, know you get
behind and now you're chasing the whole time and you
physically can't do what you want to because mentally your
mind is overworked and there's too much clutter. That's what
this time is for. When they go away, don't just
tick that playbook aside. Make sure when they break the
(02:34:15):
huddle and you're a young receiver, then they say, hey,
double right that you don't line up on the left.
If you're the Z, you're supposed to line up with
the Z on the right outside right. Then you don't
forget where to go. That's what prevents you from physically
playing well, not the other way around. It's the mental
that allows you to physically play freely, not the physical
(02:34:36):
that allows you to mentally think freely.
Speaker 7 (02:34:38):
Big difference.
Speaker 5 (02:34:39):
Well, and it's also too I mean this even goes
as far as the training camp. Like we talked about
it last week, the show Hard Knocks, like the mystique
of it is gone, like it's it's done. I understand
what the show is going to be. Every single year,
an undrafted free agent that's not going to make the team,
Nor should I care if they necessarily make the team,
because they're not going to be a consequential part of
(02:35:00):
the team. When it gets to the training camp. Seawan
for me. Guess when I'll pay a little bit more attention.
Joint practice against the Panthers, joint practice up there in
Detroit against the Lions.
Speaker 1 (02:35:09):
I like joint practices far more than I do preseason games.
You learn more. You can control the environment. I mean,
you know, you're playing against those guys and it gets physical.
You're the drills fast, you're right there. You can coach
it on. You got to wait till they get to
the side and you're standing behind the drill. You can
coach it and teach them tempo. So many different things
(02:35:29):
you can do. I'm much more. You can get rid
of all the preseason games for me, Let me practice
against other teams.
Speaker 7 (02:35:35):
For two, four or three days.
Speaker 1 (02:35:38):
Dan, So I'm one percent, Uh with you on that,
and that that's how you You don't want to hold
the team up by that, but yes, those techniques and
the things you're talking about. I want to know how
it holds up, not in shorts and the T shirt,
not in OTAs, but how it holds up although I
want you there, how it holds up under to rest
(02:36:00):
in big important games and the rest of it. But
it lonely works important between June and now because it's
easy to gain. I mean, it's easy to lose your
your fitness, your training, if you take three weeks off
or if you don't study it, it's hard to get
back no matter what. So just just stay on top
of it gives you an extra chance, and the teams
that do that the tremendous, tremendous advantage for them. But
(02:36:26):
as far as preseason goes, you know, I'm not a
preseason game guy. Practice to me is where you win
and lose your job and your opportunity in heading into
the regular season.
Speaker 5 (02:36:37):
A Shawn Salisbury show promise there.
Speaker 1 (02:36:39):
Will not be good Yeah, so what we're gonna say.
Speaker 5 (02:36:41):
I was gonna say there will not be ota mini camp,
deep dives all this show.
Speaker 1 (02:36:49):
Yes. One other thing I can say to you, do
you realize I have never And it's not even a
badge of honor, it's just fact.
Speaker 7 (02:36:54):
You know, I've never seen an episode of Hard Knocks.
Speaker 5 (02:36:58):
You're not missing much at this point. It's that I
don't see a storyline. Yeah, it's the same storyline every year.
Speaker 1 (02:37:03):
Seeing a clip like when Jeff Fisher was there and
Todd Gurley you know, if our back goes down. You
know I've seen clips, yeah, you know, thirty seconds here there.
I've never, ever, ever, ever, in my entire life, sat
down and watched Hard Knocks. I don't know. Maybe it's
because you lived it and you're part of it, you know,
(02:37:23):
it wasn't Hard Knocks. I don't know why, and I
know some love it, but maybe maybe it's weird.
Speaker 7 (02:37:28):
But I've never seen an episode.
Speaker 1 (02:37:30):
I don't know what. What is it on Netflix now
or is it on HBOS still? Okay?
Speaker 6 (02:37:35):
Ye?
Speaker 5 (02:37:37):
Season one now too?
Speaker 1 (02:37:38):
Yeah, well you know I've never seen that. If I've
never seen the one, it's training camp, so ye never
seen it. So but yeah, the storylines are the same,
it's just the rapper changes.
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Speaker 5 (02:40:27):
You grew up in southern California in the mid to
late eighties, that's correct, You are correct. You ever been
the Fighter Town, USA?
Speaker 1 (02:40:38):
You talking about top Gun?
Speaker 5 (02:40:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:40:40):
Absolutely, come on, brother, I that's that's in our DNA.
If you're from San Diego and you've got a military dad,
it was a it was a eighty second airborn even
though he wasn't a fighter pilot. But Oceanside, UH, Fighter Town, Coronado,
big military area in San Diego, so of course, and
(02:41:01):
the most famous of all is obviously the you know,
you got some great ships that are in there to
docked in the harbor.
Speaker 7 (02:41:09):
You know, awesome stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:41:11):
Remember the game in San Diego I think played in
the NC two A basketball game. You know how they
play that preseason like four teams will go play on
the ship, right, so yeah, no Fighter Town and Maverick
and Top Gun. Top Gun School was big back in
the day, so yeah, I'm all about it.
Speaker 7 (02:41:29):
Big military town.
Speaker 1 (02:41:30):
So yes, Now you.
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combination of deering rydes live entertainment, dining experiences that help
invoke the spirit of the Tom Cruise nineteen eighty six
action film In twenty twenty two sequel, I'm in.
Speaker 1 (02:42:04):
Let's party, Dude, Let's go I'm well mav Let's go Goose,
Let's go mav it up in Vegas. Dog. Hey, it's
like Hollywood. We don't do new stuff, We just reinvent
old stuff. That's it will give you eight different movies
of the same movie.
Speaker 5 (02:42:20):
As long as I get my own, Yeah, as long
as I get my own you know, pilot name, you
know like cougar, Maverick.
Speaker 7 (02:42:27):
What would yours be called?
Speaker 1 (02:42:30):
Ice?
Speaker 7 (02:42:30):
Man's pretty tough to beat, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (02:42:31):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I think I'd go with
the wolf.
Speaker 1 (02:42:34):
The wolf. Yeah, yeah, so you are you do you go?
Are you a lone wolf?
Speaker 6 (02:42:38):
That's it?
Speaker 7 (02:42:39):
I can go alone.
Speaker 1 (02:42:39):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 5 (02:42:40):
Like Maverick was on his own because you're dangerous Maverick.
That's right, I I am.
Speaker 7 (02:42:45):
Maybe I think maybe I should just simply go by.
Speaker 1 (02:42:49):
Daddy. I like it.
Speaker 5 (02:42:51):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (02:42:52):
It's daddy.
Speaker 5 (02:42:54):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (02:42:54):
That's gonna don't But but you don't call me that dam.
Speaker 5 (02:42:57):
No, no no, no, no no no. So that's gonna
do it for the guy who calls himself daddy, a
self proclaimed daddy.
Speaker 1 (02:43:05):
Nick Dame.
Speaker 7 (02:43:05):
Where you got Nick Dame?
Speaker 1 (02:43:06):
There you go?
Speaker 5 (02:43:07):
Hey, you know what, we can't control who we are
at times. He's triple Emmanuel Elmore Matt Thomas Show with
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