Astros Sweep Series Against Phillies, Astros vs. Cubs Preview, Texans Offseason Chatter

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc Troupe's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Dan Matthewscus.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Two and DS rifles this one in the left center
field for a basin, fires rounds third and coming home.

Speaker 6 (00:30):
He will score.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
Smith goes to third Diaz with an RBI single of
the Astros have a one nothing lea Gyner drives in
his thirty first of the season.

Speaker 7 (00:40):
One two pitch get topped over the right side, fielded
there by Christian Walker. He'll flip it to Brown, steps
on the bag and that'll retire the side to two.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
Did he go around on the pitch up in? And
he sure did, that's according to Jacob Betts. At first
Turner couldn't hold up on that ball that was chasing
him in and the sight is retired to too and
Smith lines it over the leaf of the shortstop Turner
in the left around their paradus and he will score
without a throw cam Smith popped up at first base.

Speaker 6 (01:12):
Astros lead it too to one.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
The O two sway this good morning, good afternoon, and
good night, Nick Castianos. As the Astros break out the
Brooms against the Phillies sweep the three game series, winning
this afternoon two to one.

Speaker 8 (01:30):
Hey, thank you, Cameron Smith.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
Appreciate that and appreciate the Astros sweeping the phil eats.
And you just heard Robert Ford give you the final
score from it yesterday's game right there. And with all
that we say away we go and good morning here
on the Sewn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 7 (01:45):
Good morning. Uh, it is a good it is a
great morning. Love Fridays, Love my Fridays. I just love them.
Uh you think that the bray you threw some cheese
up there, just a bit up and little off speed
stuff to get you.

Speaker 8 (02:00):
He had those guys clueless at the play.

Speaker 6 (02:03):
And it was not an easy part of the order either.
He had two, three, four right there in the ninth
and you're only up by one. So you're like, if
somebody gets on, this could get interesting. And he said,
I don't have I don't just have one strikeout for you.
I don't even have to just have two. I have
three for you.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
It was he got chere Rber, then he got Boom
boom Alec boom chasing, and then he got the Cassianos. Yeah,
and it was really impressive. You will not see maybe
the I mean maybe, let's hope they do it regularly,
but against the team that good, you're not gonna see

(02:43):
a better all around pitching performance by the Astros or
anybody else for three straight games against them, a competitor
like that, right, I'm not talking about against the team
to thirty games out of first place. I'm talking about
a World Series hopeful team, even though it was sans
Harper with that lineup, and they're pitching, and to go
in pitch like that back to back to back days,

(03:06):
to take the entire series and to get it out
of starting pitching and bullpen and win them and again
another one run game, and also being able to come
from lead, come from I mean get the tie, and
then which doesn't count as it come from behind, but
then to respond immediately with Cam Smith's base hit and

(03:28):
a bray You's thinking he's got to keep it, keep it.
You know, well it's you know one o coming, Oh
it's one to one now then boom, now it's two
to one, and now I got a chance to go
get The only bummer about the game is it Hunter
Brown didn't get to win.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
It's about it.

Speaker 7 (03:42):
But I'm telling you both those pitchers again, Sanchez Hunter,
they were awesome. It's just what a what a an
example of if you're going to show somebody, say I
I want to show you three games in a row
of how you're supposed to do it defensively in pitching,

(04:03):
you saw it.

Speaker 8 (04:04):
It was. It was a phenomenal.

Speaker 7 (04:06):
I was, and when I enamorhag is probably a little overboard,
but I was. I was like that they can't this
pitching these last well the season, but just these last
few days it kind of epitomized who they'd been. But
you don't that's not I'll tell you right now that
ain't gonna happen to Philly again this whole year where
they get I'm talking about where you are, where they
can barely put the bat on the ball back to

(04:29):
back days facing pitching that you're gonna get three straight
days of that. You may get three good pitchers, but
the odds are that one of the performances going to
end in four and a third and they get knocked
out right of the of the box that you know,
of the off the mound.

Speaker 8 (04:45):
I just I don't know, maybe we are. I'm not sure.

Speaker 7 (04:53):
That there's enough buzz for what the pitching staff's doing
in this town. I understand it usually is like this
in post All Star break football started, they start to
creep in. You're in that day when people are taking vacations.
Maybe I'm wrong, but you know how you get that
feeling that you walk around it feels like everything's everybody's
talking about the Astros, and I think they are. I
don't know if maybe they're just having a hard time.

(05:14):
All of us are like, they're good, but man, they're
over They're doing some things that we didn't expect them
to do. And so you're kind of sitting back saying, man,
either I'm superstitious and I'm going to keep this approach
to it, or I'll catch you post July fourth to
see where we are. Well, here you are. I'm not
sure over this course of time, considering the circumstances with injuries,

(05:39):
that you've seen them pitch better in the last five
or six years. And I'm including with Verlander's on here
and the rest of it, and they're going good.

Speaker 8 (05:46):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 7 (05:48):
Just to boom and they've had bigger names they've had, say,
well the year Cole and Verlander, we're here and you
could have given the cy young to Cole and Verlander.

Speaker 8 (05:55):
I mean all that, but I'll tell you.

Speaker 7 (06:01):
Through all their times what you saw pitching bullpen and
starting pitching the last three days. Go ahead and show
me a time where you've seen it better over the
last eight years. In the in a three game series
against a team that good. When you're hittings giving you
two runs or one run, you're not getting eight runs.
There's no there's no security in any of these games,

(06:22):
meaning they were grinded out. You're one swing away from
all these games being decided differently. So to me, and
maybe we're just settling in because I don't even know
if I'm giving them. I mean, I sit here and say,
you would have begged for this record fully healthy, at
the All Star break when it hit, or at the
beginning of July. If I said this was the record,

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you would have said, no way. And I'm talking about
Jordan twenty home runs and Bragman and Tucker starting in
the corner outfield, quarner infield. We would have said, this,
give me this record. We're on our way to a
World Series. That's how you'd have felt watching with even
with some flaws in the hitting. You just said, this
team's different because the names and the rapper of the

(07:04):
name has changed.

Speaker 8 (07:07):
This is who the Astros are. But it's just different
to me. I am.

Speaker 7 (07:12):
I don't know if maybe are because we lowered expectations
that you're like trying to find We're all trying to
find our way back in saying, well, man, maybe they
are better than we thought. Well, those guys that do
the scouting and the coaching and the playing. The good
thing about that is most of them don't listen to
what we think about them. Pre you know, we're like, well,
they're going to battle for a playoff, and it is early.

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There's still another whole half the season, but we only
got eighty games of judge eighty one. Now for the Astros,
you can't tell me that you're not just pleasantly surprised
but on borderline shocked about how they've done this.

Speaker 8 (07:48):
It really is.

Speaker 7 (07:48):
And I mean, I know this city loves the Astros,
and I know there's buzz, but I'm talking about that
buzz where it's like, do we realize what we're seeing
here and what they just did these last three games
of that pitching staff. But it's been a It's not
an aberration. That's what they've been doing all year now.
To do this for a bucks sixty two, you say,
how do you sustain it without somewhere there's a major slump.

(08:11):
Maybe there's not this, I don't know, but I can
tell you there will not be three games better from
a pitching staff, maybe in a league against a good
team doing what they did for those three games the
rest of this baseball season. It'll be hard pressed for
the Astros to do that against the A's, let alone
the Phillies. Just because it's baseball. People are really good.
It's hard. But I'm telling you you want to talk

(08:32):
about taking it to another level and just getting it done.
This team's different, and you know what, different may be
really good because with that pitching staff, there's not a
team in the American League that they cannot beat in
a long series.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
Three for twenty one with runners in scoring positions, seventeen
runners left on base, you score five runs the entire
three days. I give you that just as a lined resume.
What are we talking about over these three games. We're
talking about them getting swept. We're talking about because that's
the thing you went on Tuesday night one nothing. That's

(09:11):
a hey, a pitch got away from you with a
runner on base to run homer. You lose that game
two to one. Wednesday night you win two to nothing.
Maybe you gave up a three run homer in the
third inning, or you know, you gave up a two
run double and then somebody hit a solo home run
in the fifth inning. I mean, you're still getting good
pitching at that point, but it's three losses because well,

(09:31):
then we're looking at the offense. This was a Phillies
team that was playing really well coming in too. They
just beat the Mets two out of three to take
the division lead, and they had won eight of the
last ten. So Harper or no Harper, there's still a
really good team coming in as well.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
Harper, no Harper, Yordan no yord On. True, it's very
the similarities with that left handed power and guys that
make a difference on their team and just add energy
when they're in the lineup, let alone, good play the
I don't think Schwarber hit a ball out of the
infield in three games. I'm dead serious. I'm trying to remember.
I don't think you did. I don't think you've got

(10:08):
what twenty four home runs. A guy's going to hit
forty five right before the seed, he just is. I mean,
I don't think you got a ball out of the
infield in three games. I don't think, and I'm not
that's not hyperbolic. I'm not sure a ball he hit
left the infield. So to teep that down and to
you know, make great pitches by a bray you where

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you didn't have hater available because his back to backer.
I just it was a masterful pitching Tuesday Wednesday, three
game series.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
It just was.

Speaker 7 (10:39):
And you know what the other Cats. If you're complained
about the Astros hitting and you're Philadelphia, they got great
pitching they could be complained about. I mean, not complaining
if you're if we're complaining, meaning about Astros hitting, imagine
in Philadelphia getting that pitching, which you got three good

(11:00):
days of pitching and losing all three. And so if
we'rekerd play, we won. Those that didn't score much left
a bunch of runners. How do you think those Cats
are feeling? Schwarber's walking out of this saying I'm not
sure in the three game series, in my life, if
at least the ball hasn't left the infield where I'm
flying out the deep center or a deep right field.
So it was as masterful of me. It's in the

(11:22):
middle of the week, it's right around the holiday with
July fourth coming, kind of get lost in the shuffle.
Don't kid yourself as they look back and say, Okay, man,
where did you gather another bit of confidence there? You're
gonna get them a bunch of people saying take you
back to the Tuesday, Wednesday Thursday series before July fourth,
the week before July. The pitching staff, You'll think, you'll

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you'll go back to these three and say that kind
of defined who we were this year. And they you
got to give them credit. They each and every single
person who took them out stepped his game up and
realized the height of the situation. Even though it's June.
They took it, and it felt to me like they
treated like this three game series man, and we had
single elimination, were down two and we had to sweep

(12:06):
them boom boom, or five game series and then went boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 8 (12:09):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (12:10):
If the old days would go three or five or seven, depending,
but they they there was a I don't know, and
there seems like a sense of calm about them under
duress this year, which is different.

Speaker 8 (12:20):
I like it. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (12:21):
I just asked for my optics. Wasn't in the ballpark
in any of the three games. We'll watch them all.
They're pitching was spectacular.

Speaker 6 (12:28):
Now seventeen and seven in one run games this year.
Thirty wins at dyk In Park this year of your
forty eight, and you talked about the top hitters in
the Phillies lineup, Turner, Schwarber and boom Oh for twelve.
You throw Costianos in there for the top four. They
were one for sixteen yesterday, and they weren't much better

(12:48):
the whole series.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Dude.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
They kept them in the ballpark, and they kept runners
away from the base pass, especially in scoring position. And
they got great pitching the entire time. Scattered a few
hits here and there, but took care of their buzz.
Like I said yesterday, the only thing not to like
was it Hunter Brown and get to win well once again.
Dude's pumping it up at ninety nine. He he's really

(13:11):
freaking good.

Speaker 6 (13:11):
Man Lowers Lower's the e r E one seventy four
on the season. Yeah, you mentioned he doesn't get to
win because he goes the seven innings, doesn't give up
an earned run, three hits, nine strikeouts in the performance.

Speaker 8 (13:23):
That's getting it done.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
As the Astros now bring in another really good National
League team, the Cubs, over the weekend. So we'll talk
about that, but mentioning how good the pitching has been,
Just how good has it been? The numbers tell you,
and they tell it directly. We'll talk about it right here.
It is the Sewn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
I'm a dollar back to the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (13:49):
Hey, stand up, get give him a nice little give
him a nice little round. Well, why wouldn't you, Why
wouldn't you.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
We're in a time if you decide to up and
leave your job because somebody paid you more than your
job in a corporate America. You left one oil oil
and gas for something else, or you less the sales job,
or you moved to go to a different hospital. We're
happy for you. You come back, We invite you back to
your reunion. You do it unless you were just a

(14:18):
complete turd as a as a coworker. Right, neither one
of these guys were. And oh, by the way, did
either one of them leave free agency hold out and
said this organization sucks and having all that and having
chaos around him, or were they both traded?

Speaker 8 (14:34):
It was the second scenario, right, so.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
In a trade. Kyle Tucker played really good bass player,
was injured last year, but other than that was durable here.
Ryan Presley for all the he'd taken some heat at
the end because move into the eighth, but as a
closer here in Houston, he was as good as anybody
in their city during his time, and in the postseason
he was lights out. Yes, it was time to move on.

(15:00):
I get it, But why this isn't ah, we had
a bad thing. And I wouldn't boo Korea or Springer
those guys either. Because they're moving on to what they
think is better for them and their fans. That's okay,
But when you get traded what they supposed to do,
you damn right. You don't have to stand up and

(15:20):
go cray. But they deserve an ovation. They were a
big part of a lot of success here. They got traded.
It's business. It's a working world. Bet, it's a workworld.
They're not going to come in here and say, man,
these fans sucked. They're probably getting it in you and say, man,
some of my best times in my life were here.
Great fan base, great team, great clubhouse. We loved it.
But it's baseball. It's business. You go on, you move on,

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you go get it. And had they left for one
hundred million, if he Tucker leaves the Cubs and he
doesn't get an extension, he goes and signs with the
Yankees for five hundred million, I'm still.

Speaker 8 (15:51):
Not mad at him.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
Hell and anybody that is is a selfish idiot. You
could go out there, don't you want people to have
success us and go and I may piss you off
the Yankees, but I'm not mad at Bregman for I mean,
I'm definitely not mad because of Boston, but I'm not
mad at Bregman for going and what he thought. I
understand we always want them to be loyal to us.

Speaker 8 (16:14):
But in turn, if you go get you moved.

Speaker 7 (16:16):
But when when we got to go somewhere else for
a job, or you got to move, or you want
to upgrade, you for your family, you want to move
to a different city, I'm not mad at you for that.
And when you get traded, that's simply going in what
what what sports is? So you're damn right if you're well,
that doesn't mean you got to put a major video

(16:36):
up for the guys we're probably.

Speaker 8 (16:38):
I mean, if you want to, that's fine. You know,
I don't have to.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
We sem to think that everybody needs not here, but
let's give video right now. When you're Derek Jeter, if
you were to get trade, or you're somebody who's been
with an organization for twelve years and you go play
somewhere else and you come back, you were here and
you go for two years and you come back, and
then you go, yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
I'm all for it.

Speaker 7 (16:56):
If you want to put a videog I don't even
know if they are, but if you want to put
a video together.

Speaker 8 (16:59):
For both them, that's great.

Speaker 7 (17:01):
But the truth is the respect when they walk in
the they deserve an applause here because they were really
good here and they're in Chicago and they're doing their thing.

Speaker 8 (17:11):
But why would you be mad at him?

Speaker 6 (17:14):
I don't think you are, and I think that fans
will react the proper way. And one thing that kind
of reminds me of is the World Series Game one
in twenty twenty one against the Braves starting picture was
Charlie Morton, and I remember, you know, Bob Ford's doing
the introductions because you know World Series Game one, everybody
goes down right exactly and the starting picture number fifty

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Charlie Morton. And there was a he because, I mean
everybody was like, dude, you helped us in seventeen.

Speaker 7 (17:42):
Listen, sometimes you can't get him to help you forever.
But did he help you while he was here?

Speaker 6 (17:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (17:46):
Hell yes, a huge wait, you damn right he did.

Speaker 7 (17:48):
And the truth is he helped you so much that
everywhere he's gone since you've been pining for a little
Charlie Morton back saying, man, Charlie was really good in
some big games for us here that he didn't leave
in a bad way. I mean, Charlie went on to
do what most do. You play until they drag you
off the field and you go where you're getting paid,
got a family. We all do the same thing, give
or take a couple extra bucks. That may be the difference.

(18:10):
But yeah, I listen, maybe I think different because of
of my career, but you know, everybody has a way
to approach it. I have never Now you're under contract,
you got three years left on your contract, you hold out,
demand a trade, play that player empowerment, and you're just
a complete as clown to the organization. I don't have
to sit there and standing ovation for you, even if

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you did good things. If that's the one thing where
I got a problem. You sign a contract, you got
three years left in it. Now you're begging out and
you're not going to show up to camp and you're good. Now,
it's the collateral damage on your teammates. You're on a contract.
If you thought, if if that was case, signed a
bunch of one year contracts and bet on yourself if
you got the balls to do it.

Speaker 8 (18:49):
So with that and those situations is different.

Speaker 7 (18:52):
But guy wants us best for his family, served his time,
did their time here as far as competing and quite frankly,
helping this team win.

Speaker 8 (19:01):
Why would I be mad at him?

Speaker 7 (19:02):
I don't take it personal when they leave my favorite
team or leave my team in a trade or free
agency to upgrade what they think is best for them.
Now I can guarantee you George Springer hasn't had a
better time playing in Toronto than he did here. Carlos
Correa has not had a better time in Minnesota. He

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may love the community and the people, but he hasn't
had a better time on the field on a daily
basis is a fact. There's no way if they did,
then they're the different type of competitors that I would
have thought. But we know damn well that that's not
the case. And you can always do that. Man, I
sure would have loved to stay in Houston. But I'm
sure they're happy because they got paid and all that stuff.
They like their new teammates, but deep down, when their

(19:45):
careers they look back, said, man, the best times of
my life playing baseball were here. And then there's some
that go and probably having a better time in their
life than when they were playing.

Speaker 8 (19:55):
I mean, it happens both ways, right, But for.

Speaker 7 (19:58):
That run here, I've never had a I wouldn't bow
Garrett Cole.

Speaker 8 (20:04):
Why would you? I mean, but why would I bow Gerett?

Speaker 6 (20:07):
I get because he's.

Speaker 7 (20:08):
A part of the sum, right, he's the representative of himself. Yes,
that and that, and I get that, But to me
then I just am sidess not. I don't have to
cheer for him. It's not a big deal. My point
is he's not a bad guy. He was good here.
I know he left to the Yankees and he and
the thing with that is he wasn't like one of
those guys that was grown in the system, you know
what I'm saying. So he felt like, oh, he's an
outsider coming in, he became an insider, and then he's

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an outsider leaving again. I get it. But when it
comes to the I get that. I'm just not a
guy man. You left to go to something bigger and better.
I hate you you. I don't now. He's he's a
little different, So I get why people have a little
bit of with him. But when it comes to Charlie,
it comes to anybody else, Julisk whoever it is right,

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guys were here right when you when you competed and
did your thing here. I've got no reason to want
to boo you or not welcome Kyle Tucker and Ryan
Presley because if they were here, his team would still
be good, and they've made the other team just good too.
It's you know what, you just know that in those

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two dudes are what do they do that's a problem?
What have they ever done to like be mean to
anybody here? Kyle Tucker doesn't talk to any He just
does his thing. He's calm, and Ryan Presley seems like
as good a dude as there is.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
For Tucker it was that he wasn't very good in
the playoffs, and for Presley it was.

Speaker 7 (21:30):
So we got to boot, so we've got to butt right.
But my point you look at the body of work,
and yes, Tucker was not great in the playoffs. My
guess is that's not who he is. My guess is
he's better than that as a postseason guy. And maybe
he is, I don't know, but it's still not worthy
of me. Is like you, the guy gave some good
time here. And Ryan Presley, yes, last year, but they

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took him out of a role. It wasn't comfortable for him.
And you're right, you got to say, man, not get paid.
I got to show up and do my job. But
the human part of it is it was a demotion
a lot of times. When you get to mooted, it's
a tough thing. And so you get to moot and
now you go to another team and you're doing your thing.
So I just for me, I love sports, I don't
love it enough to make somebody else miserable. That was

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here and helped us win, that left good were here,
good guys left, good guys, and we'll be back this
week and as good dudes. It's they're just in a
different uniform. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Well.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
Watch how the players treat them.

Speaker 7 (22:23):
If you want to know how you're supposed to treat
Tucker and press it, how am I supposed to feel?
If you could watch how they treat them during batting practice,
I was gonna be.

Speaker 8 (22:32):
Hugs and love and then talking.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
And they'll spend more time with the Houston Astros guys
than they will with their own guys during batting practice.
It's like a reunion, of course they will. If you
want to see how you're supposed to treat them, just
watch how those guys treat them, and that will tell
you everything you need to know about what kind of
teammate they were.

Speaker 6 (22:48):
If they were a great teammate, nothing else matters. It's
not only going to be that with you know, huddling
around the batting cage. It's also going to be the
Astro fans that are able to be on the field
before buying the rope dof section, going over pictures on
no doubt, good to see you again, we miss you here.
All of that, I'm sure that's probably all going to
be happening that night, a little dap and let's go. Yeah,

(23:10):
and you know what, they were here during some really
freaking good time. Yes, And another reason why you shouldn't
be mad. That doesn't mean you gotta yellow. Hey, Cam's
better than you, Kyle, whatever you want to do, but
of course he will. But in truth, Kyle Presley's gonna help,
you know, Ryan Pressley will help them. This team right

(23:33):
now they're doing Thriving without him doesn't mean well, we're
better without you. They're just getting they're in their right roles.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
And with Kyle Tucker, come on, man, he's going to
make four to five hundred million bucks. Of course he's good.
And Cam Smith hopefully is going to be Kyle Tucker
one day. And you got to put it this way,
if you were going to get somebody thought, man, do
we have a future? That's are we replacing a guy
with a guy that could be the guy? And the
answer is absolutely, you are. But it's going to take
a minute to be Kyle Tucker. Guy's an MVP candidate

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and then going in every year and he's the top
twenty five player in the league. So and both of them,
like I said, regardless of their play. I kind of
like to judge people what kind of people they are,
how they treat you, and how they treat other people.
And to me, I can't ever remember a time where
Kyle Tucker and Ryan Presley while they were here. Whether
you had disdain for their approach or their injury or
the way they played at times, most of it was good.

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And I can ever remember those guys treating anybody with poorly.
Treat him the same as they treated you.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
Yeah, and as you mentioned too, I mean twenty two
Ryan Presley was unbelievable, Tucker the career he had here,
and you know, you just wish them both the best,
just not for these next three games. You know, maybe
maybe have minimal results.

Speaker 8 (24:46):
Ye, I don't need that. I don't need now. I
don't care Kyle Tuck can go for twelve in the series.
I don't care about that.

Speaker 7 (24:51):
But because he's going to be fine regardless, Just don't
you know, you just don't have to be Like I've
joked around with some like, hey man, you guy can
throw for four hundred against my team because I like
him trained there or what, But just four hundred, well,
you still get beat by a touchdown, you know, of course,
So if Tucker hits eight home runs, well we don't
want that. But just don't drive in runs or just

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don't beat this team. And if you go over twelve
and Presley you don't even see the field because you're
getting blown up. Great, just don't get right against that.
That's yes, oh, yes, exactly what I said.

Speaker 8 (25:21):
Brad, see you right there. Get you involved if you
want to join them.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
Seon one three, two on two five seven ninety against
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Speaker 8 (25:31):
Right here.

Speaker 6 (25:31):
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Speaker 8 (25:40):
Brad.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Good morning, Hey, good morning, Thanks for taking my call
real quick.

Speaker 9 (25:44):
You know, this is this is what's so great about
every sport, the professional sports.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
We deal with.

Speaker 9 (25:50):
It's collective bargaining. It's the players Association. In five years
will be discussing something else. If people don't like it,
go build your own sandbox and play in it.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Your hit on some great points.

Speaker 9 (26:01):
I think a couple of years ago you and I
were talking about NFL players or they chasing the ring,
or they chasing the money, and you know, that's.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Just something they gotta come up with.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Now.

Speaker 9 (26:13):
You gotta remember, though, legends never die. So I think
a lot of these guys that left could have been legends.
They're gonna be Hall of famers. But you're gonna be
a legend. You're gonna you know, you got that chance
to chase four or five more rings, to be honest
with you, In my.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Opinion, with this team now, age will be a factor.
But I kind of treat this season kind of like
a no hitter. Let's be quiet, guys, Let's be quiet.
Lay it low.

Speaker 9 (26:39):
We're not that many far days away from being the
All Star Game eighteen.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I'm looking at usually.

Speaker 9 (26:45):
By that break is where you're at, is where you're
gonna end up at.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
That's just stats. So I'll hang up and listen.

Speaker 9 (26:51):
Oh real quick, do you think this season that I
understand our divisions really watered down for the last seven
Don't be wrong. We got great baseball team, and the
Mariners always tried, but they just can't get over the edge.
But it looks like the whole collective American League's kind
of Iffy, the tigers are coming around, but look who

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was here managing them also too. We always put that
stigma on these guys that leave. Oh he was a leader,
he was a leader. He was a leader. I just
sometimes I'm cranking the Ovan route up here. Some of
these guys that have left look like.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
More of I. I I me, me, me, I'm sorry,
but I'll hang up and listen. Be safe, guys.

Speaker 8 (27:36):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
I mean, I don't think anybody ever considered Kyle Tucker
to be a leader in the clubhouse, least not.

Speaker 7 (27:42):
A vocal one right doing their thing. You can lead
a lot of ways. It doesn't have to be with chatter.

Speaker 6 (27:47):
Presley, though it was considered to be one of the
guys that was the glue in that bullpen.

Speaker 8 (27:52):
Ag veteran gets it.

Speaker 7 (27:53):
And when you've been down the road, it's easier because
you most guys when you're when you're the veteran that
you took unpaved road because you had to set the turn.
I mean, you had to set the tempo. And you've
given other guys a little path, and you what you
want to do for anybody is you want to keep
them away from the whether it's the hardships of the
stuff you went through, so you can make it an

(28:14):
easier path. You just do. It's like you do for
your kids, you do for younger players. I mean, if
you're a good leader, right, but leading leadership comes on.
I five found guys that don't talk much. Warren Moon,
Warren talk but wasn't a big loud talker. Warren when
he did speak, everybody shut their mouth and listened. And
then I've been on teams where guys, you know, Jimmy
Mack loved to talk, where you had just leadership, and

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I've had where the guy's performance was enough to say
that spoke loudly.

Speaker 8 (28:39):
Andre Johnson there's no clue didn't need to.

Speaker 7 (28:41):
But every time he showed up, he showed up and
posted so and in what he was talking about. And
he makes a good point, is I remember when Corey left, what.

Speaker 8 (28:53):
Are we going to do about the leadership? What are
we gonna do?

Speaker 7 (28:55):
You're gonna be just fine somebody else will you know,
the heel and all that. But somebody, somehow, some way,
you find it, maybe three guys instead of one, and
that's okay. So leadership is underrated, but at times we
make it overrated because he got to be a leader guy,
And no, twenty five twenty six guys aren't leaders on
your team. Some guys are followers. They just are. I'll

(29:16):
follow that guy. But while you're follow and do it right,
you just weren't born to be the guy who stands
out in front. You're the one who was born to
get in line. That doesn't mean you're not just as important.
But the guy in front is willing to take shots
that the other guys aren't, and there's something to be
said about that. And with this team and I working
in silence, I kind of like this because in truth,

(29:36):
I think everybody's looking around nashally and saying, man, they're.

Speaker 8 (29:39):
Good, But is this real?

Speaker 7 (29:42):
I still think they're saying that, And obviously the Astros
players don't take it.

Speaker 8 (29:45):
They're just doing their things. So and then when he
had mentioned.

Speaker 7 (29:50):
About you know, guys go and they'll be you know,
and he's right, hall of famers. Maybe some are legend
and there's being being great in a legend. I know what,
he's a legend here because you buildings. That's like whoa
statue type stuff?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Right?

Speaker 7 (30:04):
How many guys that have left? It's a really good point.
You think Garrett Cole as we speak today's a Hall
of famer? Oh yeah, oh you do? How many wins
does he have?

Speaker 8 (30:13):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (30:14):
You think Carlos Gray as we sit today as a
Hall of famer? Now do you think George Springer's a
Hall of Famer? No, Charlie Morton, No, no, and no?
Right and Verlander is I'm just thinking of the former
players that have been here that have left, are they
on Hall of Fame? Getting into the Baseball Hall of
Fame is the most difficult. That's a brutal task, buddy,

(30:35):
for whether you like the voters or not, it's brutal task.
I don't think Carlos Krey is a Hall of Famer.
Maybe not Garrett.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
I think you're premature with Garrett because I thought that
he had had more wins, awards and wins and everything
else than give me his overall numbers, right, one, fifty
three and eighty three eighteen e r A one time
Say Young Award winner, six time All Star, and two
strikeout leader. He is going to get major consideration because
right now, the three hundred wins that will never happen

(31:05):
again for a guy just starting baseball now you're not
gonna now when you say again, always and never can
sometimes be a problem in sports because we see people
do some shocking great stuff and you also could have
guys playing twenty twenty five years now.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
Yeah, well the problem is yeah, but you do what's
twenty times fifteen?

Speaker 8 (31:23):
Many times fifteen?

Speaker 6 (31:25):
Cash Man, he's putting me on the spot here.

Speaker 7 (31:27):
Dude, Well do twenty times tens? What two hundred two hundred? Okay?
And then twenty times five is what?

Speaker 1 (31:34):
One?

Speaker 6 (31:35):
So what is what is two hundred one hundred equal
oh three hundred? How about that?

Speaker 7 (31:39):
You would have to win fifteen games for twenty years? Jeez,
The CY Young winner this year won't win twenty games.
I want you to think about that now. The CY
Young Winner this year is going to go seventeen and eight,
sixteen and four, maybe eighteen and seven. I'm just telling

(32:00):
you what you ain't tell me now. It can happen.
You think Hunter Brown is going fifteen twenty years of
fifteen straight wins, It's not going to happen. It already
hasn't happened. And that's we're talking about the best of
the best. Three hundred now is two hundred. That's where
Garrett Cole comes in. If they've shifted their narrative that
the way it is now, if you get to two

(32:21):
hundred wins, because we don't expect it to go longer
and complete games are no longer an issue when it
comes to you can't compare these guys to Bob Feller.
You're going to compare them to a different era of
the way it is. So the two hundred win guy
I've talked about, guys who just started in the last
two or three years playing Garrett Cole will not sniff
three hundred wins. Verlander is going to have a tough

(32:42):
enough time getting it to him, getting them to it himself.
So those guys that leave, I think it's an interesting conversation.
The track that Carlos kra is not a Hall of Famer.
He's not Hall of Fame moments.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
He is not.

Speaker 7 (32:52):
He's not even sniffing it right now with the numbers,
no way. Same with the Springer's got diad, He's not
got no shot. Charlie Morton's not going. Verlander is Garrett Cole.
Maybe the All Stars. He's won a Cy Young, the
Big Award cy Young. He's been an All Stars six times,
He's got one hundred and fifty plus wins. By the
time he's done, it'll be over two hundred. He's probably

(33:14):
going to if he continue wins the strikeout you know
that way wins the league strikeout another time or two.
I think he's he's on a pace to at least
be considered those other Nobody else that I can think
of that left here now Kyle Tucker's on. You know,
if he stays healthy for fifteen years. But think about that,
isn't it?

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Am I right?

Speaker 7 (33:35):
Twenty twenty wins? I mean twenty years with fifteen wins
twenty times fifteen is three hundred?

Speaker 6 (33:41):
Right?

Speaker 7 (33:41):
Am I losing my mind? Twenty forty sixty eight hundred,
three hundred. Verlander's at two sixty two. Yeah, oh, he's
getting in the Hall of Fan That's a no brain.
But still, dude, you know how hard it is to
get thirty eight more wins.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
He's going five this year.

Speaker 7 (33:53):
The thirty eight more wins at his age, Yeah, dude,
that's gonna be hard. That's fifteen thirty. That's two and
a half more seasons. It fifteen wins a year. It's crazy.
It's gonna be He may have to play five more
years and get seven wins here ten wins. I mean
maybe hopefully gets it, but it is hard to do.
So can you imagine, hey man, you gotta make the

(34:14):
Hall of Fame, but you don't. Now it's to two
hundred because you're not getting if the barometers three hundred,
Like when you get the three thousand hits, it's like
an automatic p five hundred home runs or as long
as steroids haven't been involved or you've been accused of
it and that type of thing. And three hundred wins,
you know that was usually okay, you're in. If three
hundred wins is a barrometer, you ain't gonna have a

(34:35):
pitcher get to the Hall of Fame anymore. So that's
not gonna be it because it's rare. Fifteen wins twenty years.
First of all, you got to play twenty years. Secondly,
you got to be good twenty years. Thirdly, got to
win fifteen fifteen wins. Now at the end of the season,
you're getting a major pay race. When's the last time
somebody won twenty wins, had twenty wins? How many guys

(34:56):
in the last five years have had twenty wins in
this league? Like Derek Skuball was just looking it up.
He was eighteen and four last year. That's going to
be your side, young guy. Him liked that eighteen and six,
seventeen and four held the ground, won it one year,
and I think with eleven wins because the era was
like nothing. So I'm just telling you man that the

(35:17):
Hall of Fame, we we used that turn. I know
our caller wasn't using it loosely, but I'm just saying
in truth, the legends and great and Hall of famers,
there's one surefire Hall of Famer that's left here in
the last eight and it's Vernander Cole probably on the track.
The other guys right now, Korea Springer that they're not
sniffing it right now, they're not even were close than that.

(35:37):
And Carls Grans what now holds he okay is his number?
He's not going to get aywhere near there, not anywhere
near there. So I mean if he's not, I mean
he's been a great player, and he's he's had great moments,
but the numbers don't say Hall of Fame. They just don't.
And he's not going to get in at this day.

(35:59):
I'm talking about it. If he just parlay this out.
He won't get in well.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
And you got one guy that's still here that will
be a Hall of Famer, and that's of course Jose.

Speaker 8 (36:06):
I'll do no doubt.

Speaker 7 (36:07):
And those that don't vote for him because of what
happened in two thousands of shame on them. And there'll
be one. But he's going to get in. That's the current.
I'm talking about guys that have left. Verlander is the
only stone cold lock.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
I'll get ready for the grand standing because it's happening.
Oh my column, Why in good conscience I could not
vote for him? Oh great, I'm so glad that you
can sleep well at night.

Speaker 7 (36:29):
But the same guy who's in good conscious can't vote
for him is the same guy whos made plenty of
mistakes himself.

Speaker 8 (36:34):
We just don't get to.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
See him or or you mean a guy that rails against, say,
the Atlanta Braves doing the Tomawk chop, and then you
see about a month later he's at a Kansas City
Chiefs game in full Chiefs gear. Yeah, I'm talking about you,
Jeff Passing. I mean, what's good for you may not
be good for me, right or good for me? Some
people just must not have mirrors in their house. That's

(36:56):
that's all. It is easy to throw them in order
to catch them. How's guy say, make sure your house
is higher up on the hill. John and Fresno, see
you're right there. You want to join them? Seven one
three two one two five seven ninety against seven one
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continues to the ten year is hitting two oh seven

(37:20):
against them with a six thirty seven ops.

Speaker 8 (37:23):
They have a three twenty one era.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
Now, a lot of that is inflated by that Raise
series when it got away from them that first game
of the series, the Saturday game in the series where
you just kind of you packed it in after that,
because I would say that the Astros have had two
of the weirdest series as a whole this season, both
at Dyke and Park. That Raise series was weird. You

(37:46):
get outscored thirty to nine, and then this one you
win it five to one combined in how those series
went overall. As a pitching staff this year, they're fourth
in eer three point four oh era.

Speaker 8 (37:58):
They're first in strikeout seven ninety eight.

Speaker 6 (38:01):
How many times have we seen this year where they
have had runners on the corners, bases loaded, whatever it is.
You're saying yourself, Man, a ground ball right here would
be great. You get a strikeout. Salt the other night
with Brian King in that eighth inning that he had
where the bases were loaded one out and you're saying, man,
we need we need a ground ball at somebody, and

(38:22):
he said, I got one better for you. How about
us strikeout and then how about we get somebody to
lift something in the air or actually knows the bouncer
to paignet short and then he threw out Castianos.

Speaker 8 (38:31):
That's the inning, No, no run's given up.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
But overall this year as a pitching staff, the Astros
are first, and opponent batting average, opponents are hitting two
eighteen against them.

Speaker 7 (38:41):
You're gonna win a lot of games, man, You're gonna
win a lot of games. And the thing that we
cannot discount and you have to continue to pay attention to,
and what they've done is getting distance out of your
starters when they're not pitching their best. Hunter Brown of
course from of course, when you can get six out
of Gore and you can get I mean, you start

(39:01):
to the Gustos of the world are giving that grinding through.
It's like scattering seven eight, scattering seven or eight hits,
but still get you to six. And then you can
be a versatility of a bray you And you mentioned
Bennett coming out of the bullpen, where you can get
a Fred Hater goes gives you an it and gives
you anything Tuesdays and you can sit him down in
a close game and a chance to sweep, and a

(39:22):
Braill goes in there and get you what four outs?

Speaker 8 (39:24):
You get you four outs?

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Right?

Speaker 7 (39:25):
He came in with and I think with the one
out in the eighth, Yeah, and got it done and
then went and finished up the ninth.

Speaker 8 (39:31):
It was.

Speaker 7 (39:32):
It's been spectacular. So you keep an eye on that.
And Steve Sparks constantly harps on keeping that bullpen fresh
in the second half of the season, constant and rightfully so,
because we always say battle tested are fresh legs? You
tell me this weekend, I mean this last Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday wasn't battle tested. And they've been battle tested against
good teams and they've they've come on the on the

(39:53):
victory side more often than not. So battle test, it'll
be fine. That there are plenty of battle tested and
some of these young guys are learning on the fly
what it's like to be battle tested, which is a
good thing, and that you know, you learn how to
do it. And like I said, it becomes contagious. Winning
can become contagious and success can so. On the other
side of that is is why you're doing that and

(40:14):
staying focused on that. Keep an eye on the second half.
You keep these legs fresh. As Steve continues to harp,
and we always do, they will be able to be
So that's the battle tested part. Through tough games. But
fresh legs in September, fresh arms. I say fresh legs
when we say it, but it goes hand in hand
because if your legs are wobbly, the army and is
good even with a pitcher. So keep them fresh. I

(40:35):
don't see any reason after eighty one games for you
to tell me that this is going to be different.

Speaker 8 (40:40):
They're rolling. How many else did you say, Brian or
bre you got four?

Speaker 6 (40:43):
Right? Yeah? How many strikeouts would you say he got?
I know he had three minimum, might have got them all. Yeah,
I know he went bing obangal, but I couldn't remember
if he struck out, got the last out in the
eighth with a strikeout. I sat there and watched him
turn and ring him up, bingo, bangle, that's exactly right,
on a nasty that's exactly right.

Speaker 7 (41:03):
And then and he, dude, he was throwing some balls
in places did fairly unhittable. You're like, okay, I can't
get that. I can't get to that, and and uh,
he just he was spectacular. So that guy and the
versatility of the being able to move around and get
You're you're closing this one out. Okay, hey, Josh, we

(41:23):
may need you to keep this even for us, and
Bennet will go in there and do his thing, and
then oh okay, then we got to Brian doing his thing,
and then all of a sudden, King's got I mean,
it's just it's been a phenomenal effort and nobody's getting
left behind as a pitcher right now. That that's the
great thing. You're not the one guy going on I'm
not doing my gig, right. Yeah, it's almost like they've

(41:43):
raised the game. Like if you don't do your gig,
the whole room's gonna snap their head and look at you, like, dude,
pick this tempo up.

Speaker 8 (41:48):
It's been impressive, man.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
Where you can't be here John, And now see you
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Speaker 6 (42:44):
A go ahead RBI single in the bottom of the
eighth by Cam Smith is what does it? We're gonna
get the Cubs next, Kyle Tucker and Ryan Presley. They
get the tribute video treatment tonight and a little bit of.

Speaker 7 (42:56):
The tribute video, a tribute video of this. So what
I asked, did you did you just find out that
we just know?

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Then?

Speaker 7 (43:01):
Why didn't you chime in and say, Sean, they're getting
the video I didn't video. Well, I guess I didn't
hear it. It's a Friday Friday Brain so they are
getting a video. Yeah, they're getting that's why they get
a video. Okay, cool, so they are getting the video.

Speaker 8 (43:13):
Nice. I'm just yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 6 (43:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (43:16):
Nice.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
You know, maybe maybe that's probably me man.

Speaker 7 (43:18):
I was probably said I was probably so focused on thinking,
and you said the Strows. I'm just wondering if it's
Stros before Bros.

Speaker 8 (43:25):
Is that? Of course? Stros before Bros.

Speaker 6 (43:27):
And then and then our our production for the show,
like the promos. I'll let you know that we're coming up.
Calls us the morning Shrows Bros.

Speaker 8 (43:36):
Yeah, so but is it? So would you take the
Strows before Bros? Probably?

Speaker 6 (43:41):
Really? What about Stros before Hose? Of course? Yeah, you
got you gotta stay, you gotta stay with that second girl.
So Stros before Hose fun in the fun in the moment,
but not fun in the long.

Speaker 8 (43:53):
But Bros before Hos too, of course.

Speaker 6 (43:55):
Yea.

Speaker 7 (43:56):
So they finished third and the Stros finished first. So
basically Bros finished second. Yeah, medal, but Hose about the third.
That's what you're saying. And whatever you describe could be
if a fan base somewhere else could be a guy
could be a girl. I mean you can you could
be a Hose kind of like well, how do It's
not just Zoid's hose, right, It's just it can be
you can be a dude a hoe just because you're

(44:17):
a bad fan based from somebody else with.

Speaker 8 (44:19):
The saying goes, you can't tournamental house.

Speaker 7 (44:24):
So but we have decided STROS before all of it
is basically what you're going.

Speaker 8 (44:27):
Yeah, all right, so they're getting the video. I digress now.

Speaker 7 (44:33):
Yeah, I think you're gonna get an argument that some
of the fellaws may say bros before Stros probably maybe,
but it's usual base. Yeah, the third ones never got
the third ones never winn.

Speaker 6 (44:43):
I'll watch it if it's on or okay, get get out,
get out.

Speaker 7 (44:47):
We we we have no use for you. Okay, you
got out. But just you got any disdained any for
us on a Friday. You're too happy today.

Speaker 6 (44:56):
I'm on the fence, straddling the line right now. Subject
not really any subject. I'm just you know, it's kind
of in your crawl, but you're not sure if you
want to just it's just you're not sure if it's
brewing just yet or not.

Speaker 8 (45:09):
It's brewing, but.

Speaker 6 (45:09):
You're not ready to pour the cup. Yeah, yeah, I
mean it's it just started. The coffee pot, so let
it let it brew a little bit.

Speaker 8 (45:16):
Let it brew.

Speaker 7 (45:16):
Yeah, And would it be it like in sports or
something else in your crawl, maybe the gal sitting in
the middle of the old lady sitting in the middle freeway.

Speaker 8 (45:24):
I didn't have to worry about that. Yeah, yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 6 (45:27):
I I was able to skirt around that on my
way to car back. But then it's funny because I
guess it's not really funny obviously if you know the story.
But I just thought it was an accident, so I
went around it. And then later I get there and
my aunt texts me and goes, you're not on forty five?
Are you a go No, why what's happening? Like, I'm
thinking somebody struck by lightning something like that, you know,

(45:48):
whatever it is, And she told me what it was,
and then we turned on the TV there at car
Bock and we were like, oh my god. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (45:55):
But my favorite is when somebody will come on TV
and say they're looking into mental issue.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
You think last I checked, I don't think that people
just sit in the middle of forty five for the gun. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (46:10):
Was she in like a lawn chair or something.

Speaker 6 (46:11):
Sitting in a lawnchair. Yeah, yeah, I've seen I've seen
the videos too of people. You got the car accident
off to the right and she's just sitting there cadillacing.

Speaker 8 (46:20):
You do know we you lot pimping is the call?
Yeah PPP. She was e LP.

Speaker 7 (46:25):
She was posted up like a lot pimping. But here's
the deal. We need somebody on the way the Pauli wall, Yeah,
posted up like a mailbox. They're my favorite. There you go,
nice little rap, little freestyle it.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (46:40):
Here's the thing though, do we need a highly trained
doctor to get on the television and let us know.

Speaker 6 (46:51):
My favorite of it was hopefully she gets the help
that she needs. Thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks for that, Thanks
for that.

Speaker 7 (46:57):
Last that go to like, well, they're looking in to
determine if maybe she's got some metal issues.

Speaker 8 (47:06):
M You know this is somebody goes through you.

Speaker 7 (47:08):
Somebody will do something that's like that's heinous, and then
you're like, well, there there's there might be some PTSD
or metal you know, like on somebody who's like a criminal. Right, really,
oh so somebody did that because normalcy says driving down
on I forty five, getting in an accident or causing

(47:29):
one popping out of your vehicle, throwing out a long chair,
the lawn chair.

Speaker 8 (47:35):
You know that dude in.

Speaker 7 (47:35):
The meme or the gift where he throws out chair
when he's like mister confident. Yeah, slaps that thing right right,
yanks out of glock and sits in the middle of
the freeway. And you want to tell me, hey, I
mean maybe something going on here. There may be there
may be some metal and emotional uh trauma. Really Okay,

(47:57):
it took eight years of a medical school for that one. Yeah, okay,
I'm just curious. I had no idea that mental and
emotional issues might be a problem.

Speaker 6 (48:08):
We're just glad, you know, like if anybody was stuck
there in that traffic and like they're right near the situation,
it's duck well, not only that, get out of the
car and run. You know, they didn't have to throw
a flash bang or something. You're just sitting right there
and you see one of the swat guys come in
throw the little canister out and you're like, oh, that's
not gonna be good for me. And when they tap
your car and say yeah, we're gonna get you guys

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in the fur of the front row, you don't want
this front row seat. Yep, because we got guys that
are sitting on buildings or on top of trucks or
whatever that if needed, that we're going to keep you
out of danger. That she's the one in danger because
you don't want and I'm not making a light of this,
but the cross is, you don't want to be the
first car next to her accident right where she said there,
you're the one vehicle behind because you can't turn around

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on a freeway. Either duck down low, get behind the vehicle,
get out and take a mad dash. Get the truck
or car later. I was gonna say either that or
if you know you're in your car and they tell you, hey,
get out here, you don't tell me twice. Yeah, here's
the keys. Yeah, there you go. Well I'll see all
later and all that. Hopefully that this this woman's okay. Yes,

(49:12):
hopefully she's okay, but we do know that she there
could be some mental and emotional trauma. Right, just good
that it did that, it had it good and wouldn't yes, right, yeah,
that's the one, because I mean, god forbid, it'd gone
haywire there.

Speaker 8 (49:27):
And she just says, all right, well, well we're trying
to take out as many as like.

Speaker 7 (49:30):
Tragic regardless, because you know, we're not making fun of
that situation. We're just talking about I always laughing. It's
like when a doctor tells you he had knee surgery.
It was successful, right, thanks. What it's like as the
doctor ever got up there and said, hey, I had
knee SIK surgery, and guess what, it's a twelve and
it's twelve to twenty months. You know, they'll give you
an eight months leeway in there, so they're right, twelve
to twenty months and then it'll be back fully healthy.
And it was successful surgery, as anybody ever got on

(49:53):
television said the surgery sucked. Man, It's like we didn't
we didn't do the knee right, and we're gonna have
to redo it again.

Speaker 8 (49:59):
But let's see how you rehab.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
Yeah, that is one of my little successful surgery.

Speaker 8 (50:04):
Well yeah, he's still alive, right, okay, Yeah, then i'd
say it.

Speaker 7 (50:07):
Was I'm just waiting for the one doctor come say
you know what, man, I missed the spot and we
tried our best, our best.

Speaker 8 (50:14):
He'll be eighty five percent.

Speaker 7 (50:15):
He'll never get to a hundred because I missed one
of those I was trying to tie the lig of
it together. It was getting late, and so we got done.
But he's eighty five percent. We don't ever hear the
time one hundred percent. He returned full successful surgery. All right,
thank you, because I've never heard anybody mention anything else.

Speaker 6 (50:32):
It's like if anybody watched The Sopranos for the first time. Oh,
Tony Soprano was such a likable character. But he was
an awful guy. Of course he was. He was a
mob boss. Yeah, that's what they're They're not nice people,
but they're really great at dry cleaning.

Speaker 7 (50:47):
I love when they have that dry cleaning business, you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, because that's always the
way it is. What are you into aside from all
the racketeering I have? I have a dry cleaning business.
Got those no show jobs?

Speaker 6 (50:58):
Yeah, I own a meat packing Right you get all
get all those guys just sitting out there, funny enough
and lawn chairs, yes, you know, just right there on
the construction site.

Speaker 8 (51:08):
Why you busting my balls? That's another one with somebody.

Speaker 7 (51:11):
Well, we're just out here doing construction, playing cards, running,
you know, we're not doing anything with this meat packing.
We're not put anything in that in the meat at all.

Speaker 8 (51:20):
And in our dry cleaning, did you get not enough starch? Okay.

Speaker 6 (51:24):
That's what always cracks me up is the uh, you know,
their negotiations. Yeah, and so many no show jobs in there. Okay,
so just you know, don't show but collect. Sometimes they
tell you got to show up and collect.

Speaker 7 (51:36):
Yeah, with the with those big mob bosses, it was
never the negotiations really were one sided. Oh yeah, what's
called ultimated nero?

Speaker 8 (51:44):
What's for me? I'm not I'm not looking out for you?
What's for me?

Speaker 7 (51:48):
And if it's for you, then you you're it's either
your life or you can continue to supply me with
all that good information and money.

Speaker 6 (51:55):
One way or another. Seawan, we all get ours.

Speaker 8 (51:58):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 6 (51:59):
That's a good buddy of mine's uncle once told them
and it stuck with me. Told you this day, all right, Uh,
Alan John, see you guys right there. We'll get you
guys involved in the conversation seven one three two one
two five seven ninety Beach Front Resorts. They sound great, right,
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On Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

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Speaker 6 (54:55):
It is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talks seven ninety. Astros
sweep the Phillies to one winners yesterday, seven innings, nine
strikeouts from a Hunter Brown. He picks up the no
decision and in College Sports Reports to stay. Texas State
going to join the revived PAC twelve A beach revived
and I understand it was still around with two members,

(55:17):
but they're at least starting to build it up where
it's got more than two.

Speaker 7 (55:21):
Yeah, this is a great upgrade for Texas State. I
was on doing the show yesterday and I defended Texas State.
It's great because they it's good for them to recruiting wise,
and it really is. And they started to build a
really nice program. It's been doing it for a while
and they I think they've got their head in the
right direction. So it's good for them now the PAC twelve,
but listened to for those of us who played in

(55:42):
the conference and Washington State and Oregon State where the
two you got to play teams twice this year, and
I know they're building it and head the right direction.
I do believe it's good for Texas State, but I
have a lot of speaking of disdained, Danny, I've got
a lot of I don't get too caught up in
the emotional where you lost the pack. When I played,
it was the PAC ten, not the PAC twelve, and

(56:04):
they're doing that. I don't have a problem with that
because the truth is getting Michigan playing USC in October
on a Saturday, other than just the Rose Bulb.

Speaker 8 (56:14):
I'm good with it.

Speaker 7 (56:14):
A great competition, it's a better conference having them in
the big thing it is, but it's still there's that
little bit of sentimental value that says, that's my conference
and it got blown up. So while you say they're
they're they're what do they called the revived it's revived
because there's actually more than two teams. Yeah, and it's
good for Texas State, but it is not anywhere the

(56:38):
power power in five don't mix because that's it's become
just it's an also ran conference, but it will be
up good because I think Texas State can compete there.

Speaker 6 (56:46):
I do. Just don't hire a tennis commissioner to be
your commissioner. And uh, you know, I have a conference
that actually has schools that want to be good.

Speaker 7 (56:56):
Yeah, and I'm I'm good on Texas State. I'm happy
for them. But it's just there's this part of who's
going to screw up the PAC twelve now, you know
what I'm saying. There's that feeling and out there in
the on the West coast and teams at you know,
Oregon and Washington.

Speaker 8 (57:10):
Area in Arizona.

Speaker 7 (57:12):
It's just frustrating because they had a good thing going
and a commissioner literally brought it to its knees.

Speaker 6 (57:18):
Terally Kleoff Goff did everything he could.

Speaker 8 (57:20):
It's just it was too.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Late at that point.

Speaker 8 (57:21):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 6 (57:22):
And you had these programs who looked at it and said,
you know, yeah, hey, that money they're making in the
big ten, Yeah we want to do that.

Speaker 8 (57:29):
Let's let's let's do that.

Speaker 6 (57:30):
We can have half full stadiums and still be getting
into the positive in terms of revenue.

Speaker 8 (57:36):
Yeah, we we'd much rather have that than.

Speaker 7 (57:38):
The crazy thing about it is you're rarely going to
get a with a with the competition and all the
good teams, there's not a lot of bye weeks when
it comes to that, and you're not getting very many
the South and the Big Ten. You're not getting many
empty stadiums on a Saturday, no matter what the competition is.

Speaker 6 (57:53):
Nope, usually not all right, beachfront resorts. So we see
him all over the world, you know, you see him Thailand, Hawaii,
you know, Fiji, any any of those places we know
all about him. Sean, Could I interest you in going
to the Wansan Kalma on the east coast of North Korea.

Speaker 7 (58:14):
On a vacation, Yeah, beach resort. No, I'm going to
pass on that one. That's enough for me to say.
I mean, I'd like to, you know, glow. I've been
to play Japan and Germany and stuff, but there's enough
here in the United States that I haven't seen yet.
I mean, I want to go to Savannah. I want
to go play golf in Charleston. I want to go
down to Reynolds Plantation, Yeah, and play golf there. Sea Island, Georgia, Right,

(58:37):
I want to go to Bandon Dunes.

Speaker 8 (58:38):
Yeah, all those been there.

Speaker 7 (58:40):
I don't want to go to North Korea on a
vacation at a beach side resort unless you're going to
tell me something of the reason why.

Speaker 8 (58:44):
I do want to go.

Speaker 6 (58:45):
The BBC had the story that Kim John Nun hopes
that the Wansan Kalma Beachfront Resort is going to boot
boost tourism in the secretive communist regime. So Kim grew
up here in this area and wants that to have
private villas and has been trying to transform the town,

(59:08):
which was once a missile testing site. That it says
that it can it can attract twenty thousand visitors, occupies
two and a half miles of beach with hotels, restaurants,
shopping malls and a water park.

Speaker 7 (59:22):
None of those can be verified. Well, one of these
things I gotta tell you. First off, you go there,
you're probably a little nervous. You're never coming home. Secondly,
you go there. The last thing I want on a
relaxing beachside resort vacation, aside from the very place it's
the guy running it, is twenty thousand people. That's that

(59:48):
That that to me it's not relaxing that that I
can sit. I can go sit in the middle of
a freeway, not I'm not talking about sit in a
launch chair now driving in the middle freeway and traffic
time before a holiday week like next Thursday, or if
you're traveling for the weekend, get on the freeway at
drive time and realize you're going to be there for
nine hours. I don't want my vacations do not want

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to exist with twenty.

Speaker 8 (01:00:10):
Regardless of where it's located.

Speaker 7 (01:00:12):
I don't care if it was feed You're the greatest
beach house in the world or beach resort in the
world for twenty thousand people there that hold in twenty
thousand people when I'm there. That's not a vacation. That's chaotic.
That that's organized chaos that I don't want to be
a part of. That's not relaxing to me. My idea
of a beach resort relaxing is the good people on
the beach, you like a good energy, but that there's
a beachside taco stamp, that there's a swim up bar

(01:00:33):
at the pool, that if I don't want to be
around anybody, I don't have to, that there's a golf
course that I can literally walk out and get on.
I can go deep sea fishing, which is I set
my vacations around golf, deep sea fishing, sun, sand and
great food. The rest is gravy, right, And I said
deep sea fishing.

Speaker 8 (01:00:52):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (01:00:52):
So No, and you may be able to get all
that there. The problem is I don't want to do
it with twenty thousand people. If I want that, I'll
just stay where I'm at. Sign beach is closed. Why
it's just beach is closed? Routine maintenance? Somebody? Yeah, they
they lost a land mine. They don't they don't know
where it's at.

Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
Yeah, so they're they're they're making sure you don't step
on it.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:01:11):
No, I'm bad for business. I'm sure for some that's fine.
But I'd rather go to what's the beach down in Galvison?
The good one is its sunset? Is it's crystal? It
is that the good one. Give me some areas, areas
where it's a good I mean, I know you're not
getting the blue, the blue you know you get to.

Speaker 8 (01:01:33):
See Joss Barkley.

Speaker 7 (01:01:34):
He says, no, yeah, I know you're not getting blue
in Florida with whites.

Speaker 8 (01:01:39):
I get it.

Speaker 7 (01:01:40):
But where's the place to go down there? That's the Strand?
I know the Strand, but is there a place a
certain name of it? Maybe wherever it is great? I
mean it's fine. There's good stuff and they're doing some
good things. I'll go there on a day when you're
when it's raining before I'll go where there's twenty thousand
people at the resort.

Speaker 8 (01:01:57):
Come on now, Son.

Speaker 7 (01:01:58):
Calvison is on the come up, man, I believe it is.
I do food down I enjoy it. Listen, being from
California used to the problem is you just can't. Just
don't start comparing beaches, right, that's for your problem. But
there's some good things to like down there. And no
buddy of mine just built a home down there and
loves it, and I get it. And anytime you can
be around the water, to me, that's my that's my zen.

(01:02:21):
That's my piece. Man, being around the water.

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
It's like, you know, we're we're gonna go to golf
shorts here in about three weeks.

Speaker 8 (01:02:27):
That's that's the beach for that old beach? Is that
is any area?

Speaker 11 (01:02:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:02:31):
Yeah, right there.

Speaker 7 (01:02:32):
You see what I want to do is I want
to go down there you hop on and hit the
Trent Jones trail stop all the way down there and
then get down there because I know that's kind of
my I know, it's kind of it's it's how a
lot of people go down there. But just I like
those places that there's a dive borrow of shack kind
of on the way on the beach and you get like,

(01:02:53):
grab yourself a fish and it's fish, tacos and and
a cold beer and then set the sun down. It's
just I'm pretty simple when it comes to that one.

Speaker 6 (01:03:02):
The Florida Bama which is right there on the Florida
Alabama state line. It's notorious, which Kenny Chest needed a
song about it. I think even Buffett did a song
about it. He's from that area, mobile right around there,
and it's known for the Florida side will close earlier
because East Coast time. So when that closes, then you

(01:03:23):
just go over to the Bama side and you can
keep partying.

Speaker 7 (01:03:26):
Right is that what in the summertimes like two in
the morning. Yeah, right, yeah, But I'd like to go
down there, you know, you rented to get an airbnb
or something and stay down because I'd like to see
I've never seen those part of the beaches, the Kenny
Stabler area, right.

Speaker 8 (01:03:38):
You see a lot of football people down.

Speaker 7 (01:03:39):
There, right right. So I'd like to, but I just
liked the simple stuff. But twenty thousand people at a resort.

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
It's not for me. It's like I remembered being at
the Senior Bowl a couple of years ago, and Ozzie
knew someone when he was still the GM of the Ravens. He's,
you know, up there in the press box watching what's
happening on the field, me making his notes everything. Somebody
comes up to him, Hey, Ozzie, got any vacations, and
he goes, I'm gonna head down to Orange Beach for
a couple of days.

Speaker 8 (01:04:04):
There you go. So there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:04:05):
I need decompression before you get into the draft, That's right.
I need to get there at some point in time.
I was gonna say I want that too. Where it's like, hey, Dan,
where do you go? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:04:14):
He's in Key West, Yeah right, And I'm tired of
my drives going west where it's twenty hours. I would
like to take an eight hour one to Destin. Yeah
you know, I know, Dustin's not Orange Beach, but you
get my point. Right, A little quicker to get there. Yeah,
little Zen, did I drive everywhere? Little Zen? That's all
we asked for. All right, I'm with you.

Speaker 6 (01:04:31):
That's it, John. I'll see you guys right there. One
thing I do want to get into here in the show.
Get involved in the conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
There you go. I like it.

Speaker 8 (01:04:39):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:04:40):
But one guy who is involved right now, who under
other circumstances would not be, but somebody else has helped
him out. We'll discuss that. It is Sewn Salisbury Show
Sports Talk seven to ninety. The seven o'clock hour, seven
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Speaker 8 (01:04:58):
Good morning John, Hey, Good.

Speaker 6 (01:05:00):
Morning guys, John.

Speaker 8 (01:05:02):
Then Hey, look at y'all left out one you make a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Beat down there and gases. It's pretty cool place to
go to.

Speaker 11 (01:05:08):
Hey, Nikia. Uh, just for as Tuck and Presley. Uh,
they gonna get plenty of love.

Speaker 7 (01:05:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
They made men.

Speaker 11 (01:05:15):
They helped this team get the championship. And no matter
where they go, what they do, they always don't get
in love in Houston, Texas. Now, last night, what I
seen last night is that what would make you get
the respect of the fans and the manager and the
whole team.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
It's when check is at y'all.

Speaker 11 (01:05:39):
It's two outs right, Your picture just pitched life out,
I mean life out. You don't want to see them
lose this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Two out, two men's on base.

Speaker 11 (01:05:50):
Now here comes this young man come up here, precious
on it smokes all over it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
He come up here.

Speaker 11 (01:05:56):
He get down to the count oh two out, and
all of a sudden he work his way to a
hit up account and he drives.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
That run in the winning run.

Speaker 11 (01:06:08):
Hey man, that's beaking to the team, to the manager,
to the fans. And that won't makes Houston fans feel
comfortable by seeing touch them come to town because we
know we got a star, a star, because Sean you
always said stars.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Are not made, that they not made.

Speaker 11 (01:06:27):
They bun. He don't run from the fire. He running
to the fire. He likes that situation. And now I
see good things for this young man. So that's all
I had. But you know what he'll make a beach
is nice man. Y'all have a great weekend.

Speaker 6 (01:06:41):
All right, See John, Uh, it's been a wild stuff.
John to Jamaica Beach, trying to remember exactly where this is.
To Jamaica Beach, I've heard of it. I've never been there.
All right, it sounds like there's a lot of people
that have more experience with that area down there, but
it is getting better than there's some good eats that.

Speaker 8 (01:06:58):
I do love.

Speaker 6 (01:06:59):
Now a little bit redfish down there. Let's let's let's
go all about it. But now, you know one thing
that kind of has stuck with me here is yesterday
you do get the the double out of Christian Walker.
But I thought about this with his at bats and
we talked about it yesterday with with Chris Gordy when
he was on with US Sean, is it hard to

(01:07:20):
really fathom that if jose A Bray doesn't happen last year,
that maybe a stint and triple A has thought about
with him for Walker? Yeah, yeah, maybe maybe.

Speaker 8 (01:07:35):
I just.

Speaker 7 (01:07:38):
There's a part of me that says, we got to
quit tripping because he's gonna play first base. Just so
you understand this, what's the other option? I mean, I know,
Dozennzol getting a healthy moving him over there, or you
know what's fact, getting Singleton back in the mix at
some point I've seen those or or Caratini or Diaz
the problem too. But the problem is that you kind

(01:07:59):
of like the care teen. He can catch and then
go do his thing when theroers dh and or playing
for whatever? I get it. How much are you gonna gain?
I guess one thing you have to take into account.
Think about all the gripes we have. I'm trying to

(01:08:19):
look at it from both sides. I understand the frustration.

Speaker 8 (01:08:21):
I do.

Speaker 7 (01:08:21):
And then I'm looking at a veteran and I'm taking
an account the money, everything you spent for him, and thinking, okay,
would they do with a BRAI with that money when
he was struggling mightily at the one point, remember the
second they sent him to Florida to get right right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
I just.

Speaker 7 (01:08:37):
I don't think you're going to get what you want
out of this. When it comes to put somebody there
full time. I don't think it's going to happen this year.
I think they're going to play this out because in
listening to Dan and Brown on the way, you always
hear hitting the ball hard, having some pretty good at bats.
It's just not showing up in the average and the production. Well,
if the ball is going out of the ballparky, it'll

(01:08:57):
show up. Because I think you're just gonna have one
of those this year where it's just you're dealing with
it and I understand the grind that position and the
thing that makes it hypersensitive. That position here since Yulie left,
has not been solidified at all, and you're going good,
you're winning as a team, and you just think, at
some point, I think, with the temptation of his career,

(01:09:19):
dare you say back in the baseball card, his career
gives them and when they sign and say, we're gonna
let him play through this, and it'll just lead to
the expertise of these guys in their scouting department how
they do it if it happens. But I get why
you'd want to send him down down Maybe you don't
even send him, maybe a few days off, or you
send and maybe you do go down and get batstball.

(01:09:39):
What happens if he struggles down there? Yeah, how do
you justify bringing him up? I don't think you're going
to see unless he's heard on a rehab assignment. I
don't think you're going to see him go to tripa A.
I think they're going to fight through it. And much
to maybe your chagrin right now and some of the
people you watch Twitter and how they're going off. I
don't think that you're going to see them quit on

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career Shin Walker in twenty twenty five, whether you like
it or not, I don't think that's gonna happen.

Speaker 11 (01:10:05):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:10:05):
And they're trying to give him every single opportunity, right
hit him in the eight hole if you have to.

Speaker 8 (01:10:10):
Do, that's okay. I'd rather have the Aight, this was
going to be it.

Speaker 6 (01:10:13):
I thought it was like, Okay, hey, he can get
going there and he can be he can be just fine.

Speaker 7 (01:10:17):
Hit him in the eight hole, it doesn't matter. I'll
take his production anywhere. I think you've got a better
chance at seeing success or feeling better about that and
him as well, to the eighth hole. Then kicking him
in the ribcage. They go down to Triple A. It's
not like he's twenty five struggling. The guy's in his
mid thirties and is and has been a pretty good
success in the league. And whether we like it or not,
I'm a production guy as well. But they invested a

(01:10:40):
lot in him and they're winning like this and I
know that it's a winner. Let's just keep this going.
At some point, man, it's going to be great because
he will get hot. I think that's how they think.
I don't think you're going to get your suggestion in
twenty twenty five. I think they're going to let him
work through it. You may see other people over there
in certain situations, but I think they're going to battle

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to get Christian Walker back to.

Speaker 8 (01:11:03):
At least respectable numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:11:06):
And it's also that it's starting to creep into the
field because he has made a few errors in these
last week And.

Speaker 7 (01:11:12):
Listen, I've told you one of the hardest things to
do is compartmentalize going to the sidelines as a football
player and come back out in my position a quarterback
and letting last series go, whether it was good or bad.
And baseball, that's got to be hard to because you're
the demands on you are immediate. You may have a
fifteen play drive. You're sitting on this as a sidelines
on a bench. After throwing a pick or a touchdown pass,

(01:11:33):
you're like, okay, they're driving defense and you're setting them,
mulling it over and baseball boom, you strike out the
indi enda and you're going back out to first base.
It is hard to not take it with you and
maybe they'll come a point in time. As a veteran,
he realizes, you know, have gone through these and this
is obviously the biggest slump of his recent career.

Speaker 6 (01:11:49):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:11:51):
But the pressure because of the lack of success at
that position, it's even worse on him because of what's
gone on since yu Lee is not the regular here,
I'm pulling for Christian Walker.

Speaker 6 (01:12:02):
I don't think it's going to be in Triple A now.
The same here I am as well. But I mean
with with the pray you, I think that the out
was for Dana.

Speaker 8 (01:12:11):
That wasn't my guy.

Speaker 6 (01:12:12):
I didn't I didn't sign him, I didn't bring him here,
and they tried to give him every single opportunity. You
just realize this isn't gonna happen. We got to move
on and we just got to eat the sunken cost.
You see teams that are willing to do that now.
But this one is Dana, Like this one is that
that was his decision to bring him in and pay
him what you paid them.

Speaker 7 (01:12:31):
Okay, So if you're Dana and Joe spot up, are
you gonna eighty one games in?

Speaker 8 (01:12:35):
Say we were wrong?

Speaker 7 (01:12:36):
Move on or are you going to try to validate
your belief and say, at some point we trust this
guy to get going and we're better with him.

Speaker 6 (01:12:44):
If he's right, they're gonna they're gonna validate their belief.

Speaker 7 (01:12:47):
I would think that that's probably And when you say, well, Sean,
what comes into that decision, well, good baseball, good teammate.
How he's handling the failures and the successes that he's
had is that haven't been as many in the clubhouse.
And also, make no mistake about it, none of us
want to think that we were wrong on personnel and
people we brought in in any situation, right, you want

(01:13:08):
to say, Okay, I got to I believe in this person.
That's why I brought him and paid him this that
that's why. And so I think that you always air
when it's your guy bringing him in air on the
side of more patients and eighty one games in, you've
had to be patient. But we got eighty one more
post all star bicks. See how he starts out and
see these next few weeks going in. Nobody's probably more

(01:13:29):
bothered by it than him. It's not like he's a
bad teammate. He's struggling, but at least he knows obviously
that the expectations for him are high, and I'm sure
at times he squeezing the dust out of that damn
bat And I get it, but think about it, I'm
trying to look at the glass half fool that if
he does get going well, Sean, it's not changing after
eighty one games. Okay, well, and that means you're going

(01:13:51):
to tell me that Jake Myers is going to keep
doing this. It's not changing, and that is going to
be the empty So you're just telling me that if
those guys good are not going to change, then they're
going to go through slumps. So hopefully at a time
when they're struggling, this guy elevates his play and goes
on one of those twenty home run second halfs and
he's in the three and he's like, Okay, hit two
forty eight, drove in eighty five, and uh, played solid

(01:14:14):
first base for you and hit twenty nine home runs
thirty home runs.

Speaker 8 (01:14:18):
Then you'll say, Okay, I get it.

Speaker 7 (01:14:21):
So I think you, whether you want it or not,
I think you're going to have to just deal with
the fact that he's going to be the regular first
baseman in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 6 (01:14:28):
Well, nobody needs see All Star Break more than that
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Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (01:16:36):
Now, you know, Sean. With the Cubs coming into town
this weekend, just like the Phillies, one of the teams
that is neck and neck with you right now in
terms of the best records in all of baseball. At
the moment, the Astros are forty eight and thirty three
on this season. That means they are two and a
half games back of the Detroit Tigers for the best

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record in the American League. They in the Cubs, are
also two and a half games back of them and
the Dodgers for the best records and all of baseball.
It's a Cubs team that swings the bat incredibly well.
They're second in home runs this year, they are fourth
in overall team batting average, and they are also third

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no they're third and home runs second and runs batted
in this season. But then the other side of it,
they're near the bottom of the league and overall team ERA.
They're pitching staff as a three point eighty five e RA,
so they score a lot, but they give.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Up a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:17:35):
And you said that was who Cubs. Yeah, okay, you're
talking about the team coming said you say that was Philly.
Philly's bullpen was a problem. There's no doubt. And they will.
Of course they're gonna mash why. I mean, they've got
good hitters. But also that ballpark when you're at home,
is going to be fly balls in up on Waveland, right.
But that's the problem with them and it will always

(01:17:57):
be the problem with opponents. Two, when you go in
there giving up a lot of runs, it's just that's
a hard that's a hard place to be a you know,
a Rick Sutcliff for guys that are what well didn't
the area to win his Cy young there.

Speaker 8 (01:18:11):
I mean, it's a hard it is.

Speaker 7 (01:18:13):
It really is a hard place to you know, we
always talk about Colorado and pitching, but it's tough. You've
got to be really good and keep the ball down.
Like Fromber would be great in that. And I don't
want them to go there, but you get my point.
A lot of ground balls, so they're going to give
them up, but they will hit and for them it's
going to be you know, the Cubs to be a
title contender like we saw them win. Not only great
pitching in which they got their World Series year, but

(01:18:36):
their ability to make sure that because they got to
go in thinking, even with good pitching, we have got
to the things we talk about. We got to post
four or five runs a night to make sure we
do it. This is a really good team, formidable, and
they will be around at the end of the season.
They're really good and Kyle Tucker has been a great upgrade.
But that's a place where the stress on pitching has

(01:18:58):
to be because you can be hitting and raking well
and up by three runs and a little fly ball
in the wind.

Speaker 8 (01:19:05):
It's just different there.

Speaker 6 (01:19:06):
It just is.

Speaker 7 (01:19:06):
I know that sounds simple, simplifying it, and you got
to get people out, but that can be a hard
place to play if you're a flyball pitcher.

Speaker 8 (01:19:12):
Too.

Speaker 6 (01:19:13):
Six guys in that lineup with at least ten home
runs this season shouldn't sixth one ean half with twelve.

Speaker 8 (01:19:19):
Yeah, yeah, it shouldn't shock you.

Speaker 7 (01:19:22):
And they'll they'll end up with five or six guys
in the mid twenties to thirty. It's just I mean,
if it continues, that's just it's part and parcel to
the ballpark. But also they've got some good talent there.
And while Philadelphia probably in my mind is a bit
more threat because they're pitching and starting pitchings off the charts.

(01:19:43):
You can't take a deep breath because this team will
beat you and they can sweep you just as quickly
as you did Philadelphia because they've got enough bats in
that lineup to do it. And the way this team's
hitting clutch. Yes, but here as far as I mean
a lot of low scoring games advantage Astros when it
comes to the way that they're keeping people down and
keeping people from crossing home plate, especially in this previous series.

Speaker 8 (01:20:04):
Yeah, they've been tough.

Speaker 6 (01:20:05):
Pete Crow Armstrong and Cha Suzuki both with twenty one
our great buddy Kyle Tucker sixteen this season. Zuki's already
got twenty one home run tun and then highly regarded
players and he's obviously paying that off who we face
in meaning the Astros in this series on the mound.

Speaker 8 (01:20:23):
Tian's going to be on Sunday today. It is.

Speaker 6 (01:20:27):
I just saw his name and it's escaping me right now.
It's gonna be Walter going for the Astros. But it's
gonna be Orton, Oh going tonight, cad Orton right tonight
for the Cubbies.

Speaker 7 (01:20:37):
Okay, So yeah, I mean it's uh and I like,
you know how I feel about day to day momentum.
To me, in game, momentum exists game the game doesn't
because all it takes is a guy like Hunter Brown.
If you're a team with momentum having to face a
guy like that and he mows you down, momentum gets
punched right in the face. That discipline and that confidence though,
that's growing. And I believe this team here they've got it.

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I think they think that every time they're in a
close game, they're winning it. And this year, for the
most part, they have been spot on.

Speaker 6 (01:21:06):
Colin Ray going tomorrow night again, there you go, more
than likely Lance mccullor's junior.

Speaker 8 (01:21:11):
That's good news.

Speaker 7 (01:21:12):
There it is, And let's hope Lance is healthy ready
to go in that.

Speaker 8 (01:21:17):
But the calf was it?

Speaker 7 (01:21:18):
It was at the calf foot foot Spring's right, that's right,
it was the lower half.

Speaker 6 (01:21:24):
Let's hope that he's Okay. Yeah, John goes out there
and does his steel kobiak Ye, Johny's got a leg.

Speaker 8 (01:21:29):
Yeah, he got a.

Speaker 7 (01:21:29):
Leg of course he's got two. Yeah, hopefully he does. Yeah,
let's hope if he's playing, he probably does. But yeah,
so it's uh, I like what the Astros are doing
and the momentum. It can carry over the good feelings,
but you still got to hit, You still got to
pitch because the team your play is not gonna give
They're not gonna give you a lot of latitude.

Speaker 6 (01:21:50):
Hopefully it's overall good news and hopefully that continues for
the Astros because we'll talk about that startup the third
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Speaker 6 (01:22:48):
As we're heading into the weekend here on the Salisbury
show as the Astros two one winners yesterday, and it's
even more reason to be fired up. They sweep the
Phillies out of town. Now you get the Cubs in
town tribute video time for Kyle Tucker and Ryan Presley
as the Astros also expected to get a Lance McCullers
junior back on Saturday. And that's one thing to Sean

(01:23:10):
that you know, the optimism Dana Brown the other day,
we played that cut last night on the Crawford Box
cast of the way he finished it off where he said,
frustration is not even in my vocabulary, because even Dana
Brown has to probably sit back with his staff and
be like, boys, how are we doing this everyone? How

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are we fifteen games about five hundred right now?

Speaker 12 (01:23:33):
Like?

Speaker 6 (01:23:34):
How are we able to beat a good team like
the Phillies the way that we just did and now
have a six and a half game in the division
with fourteen guys on the IL right now, And the
overwhelming majority of those guys are not just contributors, they're
heavy contributors to this team. Starting pitchers, high leverage guys
like Sean Dubin, Jordan Alvarez, Chas McCormick, somebody that you

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count on and the astros still continue to find a
way to win.

Speaker 7 (01:24:03):
Yeah, well, here's the deal, the expectations, and I know
it surprises us, but you don't put together a roster
of what are we had twenty six people right now?

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
Is that?

Speaker 6 (01:24:12):
What is twenty twenty six on the active.

Speaker 7 (01:24:15):
You don't put a roster together and say, you know what,
we got twelve good players.

Speaker 8 (01:24:20):
The other fourteen sock hopefully will be okay, you do
put it.

Speaker 7 (01:24:24):
While it's a shock to us, and it's probably a
little bit of a surprise to them because some of
the names we didn't know are the performance and quite frankly,
you went and got guys that have been a little
bit have been on a little bit of a journey
right with elsewhere and didn't work there. And even from Humble,
you know what I mean. Where he comes here, bam
goes two other places get him. I don't want to

(01:24:45):
call him a scrap he player, but he kind of
got him and and look what he's doing. He's one
of those guys you go to his locker, you know,
you got the baseball bags. He's one of those guys
that's got about two or three teams baseball bags in
as locker.

Speaker 8 (01:24:56):
Oh yeah, and probably got pine tar all over as
you know, one of those.

Speaker 7 (01:25:00):
It feels like just kind of a down and get
down and dirty grind or blue collar guy. He's playing Pittsburgh, right, yeah,
I was there for six months, right right, right, But
but it'll play for twelve years because he's willing to
just grind, right, and we hear grinding grit from from
Dana often Dana Brown.

Speaker 8 (01:25:15):
But mistake, Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 7 (01:25:18):
But the truth to the day that the truth is
they don't they didn't get these guys because they thought,
you know what, we got a bunch of hacks. Let's
just the second half of our roster. Let's just fill in.
They expect them, and you know what, in truth, when
you go get them, there's that big reward like nobody
we went and got this humble guy, and he's contributing

(01:25:38):
to us when everybody else is shocked, and like you
may be shocked that he's contributing.

Speaker 6 (01:25:42):
But as a front office guy, he wouldn't.

Speaker 7 (01:25:44):
Got it because you think he can help your team,
or he wouldn't be all the twenty six man roster
or the forty with twenty six on the active roster, right, So, well,
it's a surprise, you like, how are they doing this?
How is the Gusto's in the and the group of
pitchers bullpit? How are they all doing this all at
the same time. Have we ever thought that maybe because
the names aren't big doesn't mean that the talent isn't
that somebody else may have missed out on the ability.

(01:26:06):
What's the number one thing that we talk about here
all the time, their ability to select talent and develop it.
So if they're that good at doing it and we
recognize it, shouldn't we give them more credit that maybe
Boston missed on a guy and the Astros didn't. That's
what separates them. They understand how to sift through it.

(01:26:28):
I mean the track record says it to sift through
and just find another guy, or you've developed him in
your farm system, or you've went and got him from
somebody else and somebody lost belief and you've got him
for an apple and a roadmap and he comes here
and he's a part of your team contributing. So maybe
just maybe because we didn't know the names or we did,

(01:26:51):
the success wasn't regularly there. Maybe this team when the
role that they were going to be put in. Knew
that with the people around him, it was going to work.
And you have to be a little lucky dude. They've
been unlucky with injuries. They've been extremely lucky with the
guys who filled in for them. So maybe it's not
the fact that they're overly surprised. We are. But they're

(01:27:14):
doing what their job is, not only to scout them
and bring them here. But the players that you're seeing
do it, they're pros man, they're getting paid. You set
your roster up to contribute, not to just be the
nineteenth guy who doesn't get off the bench and he's
over there and a raw rock guy.

Speaker 8 (01:27:30):
At some point you're going to count on him. They've
just come through.

Speaker 7 (01:27:34):
I can tell you this, if they go and do
this in the second half of the season. Since I've
been here, I'm not saying there hasn't been more thrills
and more excitement.

Speaker 8 (01:27:42):
I can tell you this, it will be.

Speaker 7 (01:27:44):
It will have been the best job overall as an
organization that they've done since in the last decade. And
there's been a lot of great jobs. I'm talking about personnel.
Everything you've had in your best hitter on the sidelines
for a lot of time. This will end up being
the best job all around that this they've done in
a decade. Considering all the circumstances. If this continues and

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they win the division and win over ninety games and
get into the placif, we'll see what happens there. But
regular season wise, you wouldn't. If this continues and they
win the division, win ninety two games, there is no
way you can convince me that in nineteen or seventeen
or eighteen or twenty one or twenty two, you can't
convince me that the job they did was any better
than this one as a front office and as players,

(01:28:27):
because this may look different, but the performance is the same.
I almost want this World Championship much more than the
other two. Now you tell me would be would this
not be the most I'm not gonna say most memorable one?
The fans memorable ones are always the first one, and
then you had all the controversy, and then the second
ones like damn, and now this one. Considering all the circumstances,

(01:28:50):
this would be more impressive than the other two.

Speaker 6 (01:28:52):
Look at the roster, the other two pretty damn loaded.
If they did too. I think that you would even
have people in opposing ballparks be like, I can't really
boo these guys anymore because they keep doing And none
of these cats were on this oil, right Altuve, but
these guys weren't around. This is just a new group
of guys doing it, and it's amazing. This would be

(01:29:12):
the most impressive job that I've seen since I've lived
here winning for the Astros. There's been some impressive but
when Correa and Springer and Altuve and Bragman and all
those guys are on your team, you expect them to win.
When you have Cole and Charlie Morton and I'm not
saying the same time, when you have those guys running
through and Verlander and Zach Grenky and all the success

(01:29:35):
they've had in the press, Leason, you expect success. Now
do the other names?

Speaker 7 (01:29:40):
You're like, well, I hope you were hoping you expected
now this year was more hope than expectations. And then
when it got all these year, he's like, oh my gosh,
what And I forgot mccolors was part of this too,
but now as seventeen. But now you're looking at and
you're saying Oh this is different. This would be the
most impressive job that's happened here or performance considering all

(01:30:01):
the circumstances and the names involved that they've done since
they've been on this Playoff World Series run.

Speaker 6 (01:30:08):
Plus, I need overall sparky, That's that's what we need.
We need sparky in the Tequila Sunrise astros overalls in
there getting downs with champagne and it just but think
about how you're exactly right to be to look around
and say this is it's incredible what they're doing, and
they already do, but other organizations would want to come
and get cliniced by the astros on how to how

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to do what they do.

Speaker 8 (01:30:30):
It's true.

Speaker 6 (01:30:30):
Hey, is that Dave Dombrowski and the Phillies. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
they're here. It's kind of like we see that in
college football all the time. Hey, the coaching staff went
and visited Nick Saban. Like you heard the Tom Herman
story right when he got hired on at U of
h that he called him up and said, Hey, before
we get down to Houston, can he drop by here?
And all right, Tom, how'd you beat us?

Speaker 8 (01:30:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:30:48):
And he started showing on the video whiteboard whatever it
was yeah, this is how we attacked this, This is
how we went after you guys.

Speaker 7 (01:30:56):
Instead of saying, oh, this is how you beat us.
I'm not going to talk to those guys. I'll figure
it out. He said, oh, show me.

Speaker 8 (01:31:05):
But that's the way. Well, and you're not there anymore.

Speaker 7 (01:31:08):
And people also will argue, well, how you letting him
in a secret? You into the coaching world. It's amazing
you go win. Everybody wants to come clinic with you. Oh,
teach me how you ran that RPO. What are your
reads here? Teach me how you defended this. Teach me
and you clinic the very guys that may be in
the way of even if you're people that are still there.
Now maybe it's not as relevant now with all this

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transfer portal and stuff, but you would do it all
the time.

Speaker 6 (01:31:32):
You go in there.

Speaker 8 (01:31:32):
We just got our ass kicked by you.

Speaker 7 (01:31:33):
Now we're going to come visit you and we want
you to tell us how you kicked our ass in
the off season, and guys will get up there and
literally show you how they kicked your ass. And then
you try to put it in because it goes down again.
X's and o's are great. It comes down to the
J's and the Jays, the Jimmy's and the Joe's, the
execution of it, and the good ones seek that knowledge.
Even when you get your ass. If a guy beats

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you in a boxing match and he becomes your friend,
don't you want to say, dude, what was your plan
going in? How'd you attack me? Because I was a
favorite in this right and then it's the same thing here,
and it'll be the same thing people will and I
put clinic in air quotes because you're not cliniccking somebody
on x's and o's, But how to teach it and
how to get it out? People want to know how
the astros do this.

Speaker 6 (01:32:12):
I assure you, I don't think Lane Kiffin's gonna have
Jimbo Fisher stop by the facility though.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
No.

Speaker 7 (01:32:17):
But I'll tell you this, Lane, that's a fact. But
I can tell you the other side of it is
that Lane Kiffin would drop by Texas and ask Sarka
had to do and vice versa. Yeah, they would, hey,
how did you attack Alabama? They'd know two of the
best on field interviews. It was both the same guys,
Cole Kublick and Lane Kiffin. One of them was they
beat A and M at A and M and at

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the end of it, Cubulic goes, Halloween's coming up.

Speaker 8 (01:32:42):
What are you going to be this year? He goes,
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:32:43):
I think Jimbo's got a joker outfit for me because
they called him a clown. And then the other one
was when they played at Tennessee and they're throwing golf
balls and he asked Kiffin after the game, what are
you feeling right now? He goes, relief that defensive stand
right there. Either that or dodging the golf balls they
were on at and there you go it, bottles of mustard.

Speaker 7 (01:33:02):
Yeah, Kiffin's probably the closest. We got to Mike Leech
right now. And Spurrier, Yeah yeah, Prime, Prime Spurry. You
ain't confident but quirky, but give you something not afraid
of the fallout of somebody if if he says something
that defends somebody and is a great troll, you know
on social media. A brilliant mind as matured over the

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years with some of the things as early successes and
failures he had, And yeah, he's the closest thing right now.
We got to those guys like, okay, you got it
you hang your head. You got to listen or watch
him on social media or is because you know you're
going to get something from.

Speaker 6 (01:33:38):
Him in a game or in a press conference. It's
the best Spurrier ever was when you did have the
coaches call in shows of a Florida State fan calling
in coach, I'm tired of hearing it from my Florida buddies.

Speaker 8 (01:33:48):
You know, I got to figure out who to root for.
He goes well.

Speaker 6 (01:33:51):
I wouldn't recommend rooting for Georgia because we handle those
guys pretty good too.

Speaker 7 (01:33:55):
He's the one of the greatest one liner guys of
all time as a coach with zero filter is lying
about they used to play Georgia early every year and
they were like, hey, coach, you know, do you like
playing him early in the year.

Speaker 6 (01:34:08):
Yeah. I like playing him early in the year because
you can always count on a couple of guys being suspended.
That's one of my favorites, meaning they're suspended for their
offseason stupidity.

Speaker 8 (01:34:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:34:16):
Yeah, he's the best at that. Man and spill. Spurrier
is the guy that when you're bleeding, he doesn't hand
you a band aid, he hands you well, can we
extend that cut a little bit more. That's who he is,
right very much. And oh somebody else can fix that,
put the band aid on it and then dress it up.
I'm just gonna wall it's down. Let me give him
a little little nute. And or you know in a

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movie when a guy, when a guy shoots somebody or
stabs somebody, they pulls out and then they press on
it to make yourself. For Spurrier, maybe the guy goes
over and kind of puts this toe on and say,
how does that feel?

Speaker 6 (01:34:48):
Knife from there?

Speaker 8 (01:34:49):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:34:49):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (01:34:50):
But I love him, man, freaking love him. Yeah, he's
one of my favorites. And Spurrier was Leech before Leech.
But Spurrier's far more what's it?

Speaker 8 (01:35:00):
Don't know?

Speaker 6 (01:35:01):
When I say this, I mean it.

Speaker 7 (01:35:02):
If he could be affected like an invasive thing he
wants to make. Leech is just you know, you talk
about cookies and Leach can go on for an hour.
Spurrier wanted to make sure you knew that he's rattling
your cage on purpose. Leech just likes to rattle the
He's out a shake hands, kiss baby guy when he
was alive, right, But he loved hearing him.

Speaker 8 (01:35:22):
There's a little bit more.

Speaker 7 (01:35:25):
Make sure there's a little bit more twists the knife
with with the Spurrier. But there's nobody more brilliant than
Mike Leach in the way he handled everything.

Speaker 6 (01:35:33):
And he still would do that too, he'd still enjoy
doing that.

Speaker 7 (01:35:36):
And you know he's doing it. I got news for
you that that Leech is doing it in heaven.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
Brother.

Speaker 8 (01:35:41):
Yeah, I got to know.

Speaker 7 (01:35:42):
Nobody's safe in a good way up there because Leech
is walking. He's probably wanting somebody to teach him, me
to talk about uh, asking him about the mesh play,
and he's not giving you any informations.

Speaker 6 (01:35:53):
Hey, hold on for a second. Aristotle's over there. I
gotta go talk to him.

Speaker 7 (01:35:58):
And while he's while he's going over to talk to Aristotle,
he'll grab Bill Walsh on the way and see he'll
be talking sports while he's talking out the other side
of his mouth about you know, about life and wanting
to know about Aristotle and all the things he did.
Oh yeah, and he'll mix them both in and somehow,
some way, all of a sudden, when he when he
stops mind get Bill Walsh, he'll turn Walsh and Aristotle
into best Friends too. Yeah, I notice Colligula ain't around

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here anywhere.

Speaker 8 (01:36:22):
That's him.

Speaker 7 (01:36:23):
I've had those conversations at the four in the morning,
standing in a hallway and dipping one part of his
mouth of a drink in the other, talking about Winston
Churchill and talking about Sean. How do we attack this
four versts at the time at my turn, I'm not
kidding you at for Sean. You know when you drew this,
I think Mike, it's four we got to play them
and he that's who he was and it but that's

(01:36:44):
his time. Three three four is when Mike comes in
the note just that's when Mike would come alive, right
and boy would be nice to have him at this
time of the year.

Speaker 8 (01:36:53):
Soon to be Hall of Famer as well.

Speaker 6 (01:36:55):
No, rightfully, so all right, see a couple of you
waiting online if you want to join him. Someone three
two one two five seven ninety against someone three two
one two five seven ninety. It is Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety. Let the celebration start war.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
Sean Salisbury is Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 8 (01:37:17):
Brian, You've been waiting patiently. Good morning, Brian, Good morning morning.

Speaker 13 (01:37:25):
Yes, sir, If I remember correctly, the starting bid for
Tucker was ten years, three hundred million. Jim Crane said, no, way,
go ahead and get rid of him. And I think
the general consensus is that both Chicago and Houston and
Rutal happy with the trade. Now the part where it'll
have a lot of your listeners clutching their pearls. What

(01:37:46):
would you think about doing the same thing with Tramber
this year at the deadline not happening.

Speaker 6 (01:37:52):
I will go ahead and stop that one now from
er Valdez is finishing out the season with the Astros,
and you'll see where things go. I had brought it
up earlier in the season because at the time, the
way that the season was going, it looked like you're
going to be probably battling for a wildcard spot. If
you were able to edge out the division that maybe
you'd think about it. But no, you're one of the

(01:38:13):
best teams in baseball right now. He's one of the
best pitchers in baseball. Keep that guy and see where
it goes. They're playing for a World Series. They believe
they're a World Series team, and his first half has
validated that their pitching is outstanding. You're not going to
disrupt that apple cart while.

Speaker 7 (01:38:29):
You fall under the well, what if we lose him
and don't get what we want free agency. You're going
to take the risk because you're going all in on
the second half. Now, if all of a sudden they
were twenty games out of first place and with no
shot and they were playing poorly, you would probably try
to move him because every day he goes out there
and is successful, the chi ching goes up, and he's

(01:38:51):
left handed, and he keeps the ball in the ballpark,
and he's really good, and he's an innings eater. So
the question you have to ask is then where's the
floor and the ceiling? Not performance money. So you're going
to take that risk. They're not there as it goes now,
they're they wouldn't. They're not even going to entertain I
guess I'll answer the phone. But you can't entertain that

(01:39:11):
because people will call understanding what fromber situation is. But
there's they are in too good a position, and with
the way the American League is, you can't give that
guy to somebody else. You can't now I understand assets
and the rest of it, and you may end up
losing him next year. You very well may, but another
World series with him involved in going putting a ring

(01:39:32):
on your finger.

Speaker 8 (01:39:33):
Would be worth losing him. Does that make sense?

Speaker 7 (01:39:36):
I don't want to He'd like to win a World
Series and keep him, but it would be worth losing
him and not getting the value you thought to make
sure that he was a part of putting a ring
on your finger? Like I said, he say, is it
really if you told me you could get a ring
and not trade Fromber and at the end of this
year you won the World Series Fromber was going to
go and you weren't going to make the playoffs the

(01:39:57):
next three years, I'm taking the ring you absolutely.

Speaker 6 (01:40:01):
Let's let let's see how this scenario would play out.
Right here, you know, Dana Brown's in the middle of
a staff meeting. It's after lunch. Hey, guys, Brian Cashman's
calling me, Hey, Brian, how you doing. Hey, Dana would
love to trade for that left hander. You got Valdez
a little over served at lunch, Brian, he ain't going
anywhere right.

Speaker 7 (01:40:18):
And you'd also say, by the way, tell me something
I don't know and get in line. And you don't
have enough. You don't you don't have enough assets for me,
whether whether they do or don't. So you may answer
the phone out of being courteous to there's somebody dumb enough
to offer me forty seven picks for this left hander.
It's not going to happen. But I know that sounds crazy.
If you told me they could win a World Series

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and if Fromber was a big part of it and
he was going to leave in free agency at after
they won the World Series, because he's going to be
worth whatever it is. The high priced top five are
getting paid at his position, and that Sean. That means
we're not going to make the playoffs next year. Dan,
We're not going to make the plus for three years.

Speaker 8 (01:40:56):
Would you do it?

Speaker 7 (01:40:57):
The answer is absolutely, World Series salut So the risk
and the reward. There's a risk, but the reward is
worth that risk on both counts. This team's not going
to miss the playoff for three years, but you get
that's the extreme I'm talking about. That's how important getting
a ring is. And I know we talked earlier about oh,

(01:41:18):
you know, get yours and get yours. I've said this forever.
When players first come in the league, they want to
get theirs, me and their starting life and then they
want to prove it and then go get that title
as if they're a starter, and then they want to
get theirs. Meaning after you do that, and I'm a
free agent, I want to get the bag.

Speaker 8 (01:41:35):
I want to get Pilar.

Speaker 6 (01:41:37):
I went thirty two years without seeing a World Series, right,
So my point is way right.

Speaker 7 (01:41:42):
As a player, when you bring it up, what do
they want? What's more important to them?

Speaker 8 (01:41:46):
Both?

Speaker 7 (01:41:46):
Because if you play great and you get a World
Series or a super Bowl ring, you're getting paid. If
you get paid and don't get a Super Bowl ring
or a World Series ring and it's going on, then
we all question, well, you need that one thing of validation,
so you get that championship while you're a starter early
on and try to go win more, and then you
want the bag. And some would prioritize it different. They

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want the money the championship. If they get it, fine,
Just like when Cam Newton said he'd rather win a
MVP than a Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 (01:42:14):
Now that right there.

Speaker 7 (01:42:18):
No, I don't know many that would approach that way.
I'd like to win the MVP during my Super Bowl year.
That's that's the pinnacle. But the two things that players
when they said I gotta get mine. You gotta get
years meeting the ring on a finger, and you got
to get years, meaning they all want to get paid.
And if you do both, then the rest of your
career work hard. Now you're just stacking not only money,

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but you're stacking championships if you're fortunate.

Speaker 6 (01:42:41):
Well, I ask Dan Marino how that went. I have
many times Dan and I've had conversations and gets there.
First second year he was there, in eighty three and
eighty four they were in the Super Bowl. Yeah, and
then he had a really good rookie year and an
eighty four he threw for forty eight touchdowns and five
thousand yards are right around there, and was the best
player in the league.

Speaker 7 (01:43:01):
Dan has told me on more than one occasion that
after his rookie year he thought he was going multiple
times multiple times. Yeah, and the greatest thrower and quickest
release of football in the history of this game that
we've ever had. And I would argue in their professions,

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this is the best player never to win a championship
in any sport. He's in the argument. I'm just telling
you can throw Karl Malone in there, you can throw
Barkley in there. You could take a baseball player whoever
Ted Williams said to Ted Williams, he'd probably be at
the top of the list, because people really don't Ted
Williams never won a World Series, which is crazy, right,

(01:43:42):
But you take and put Marino in there. He's the
He's in that photo and as matter of fact, it's
it's maybe three or four deep. You'll see his face.
And Dan has told me in person, not even any
of just sitting around laughing and joking. He thought he
was going to many more and that lose the first one. Okay,
we'll be back after at nineteen eighty four, they never

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got back.

Speaker 6 (01:44:03):
It's like I remember Todd McClure telling the story of
Thinkers lineman for the Falcons. Falcons and I think it
was his first or second year in the league. They
made it to the NFC Championship Game and it was
before they played the forty nine ers and twelve and
he goes, I mean, I'm on the doorstep of my
career being over, and this is the second time I've
gotten back.

Speaker 7 (01:44:23):
And he's ranks about ahead of about eighty five percent
of the players who played. All right, getting back whether
you win it or not, of course you want to
win it, but most players will say they never got
to win.

Speaker 8 (01:44:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:44:36):
I mean, you get there early on in your career
and you're like, oh, this is great, We're gonna be
back here every single year.

Speaker 7 (01:44:41):
You've got to get there thinking this is the only
time I'm coming here. So whatever it takes to win,
beg borrow, cheat, steel, tackle, grab a guy, take penalties
to get that win.

Speaker 8 (01:44:50):
And I mean it obviously.

Speaker 7 (01:44:51):
Sure I'm not saying literally, but that's how your thought
process has to be. And Dan, and for a guy
that good never to get back after what you saw
him do not only an a through but in eighty four,
Dan was doing in eighty four what the quarterbacks are
doing now.

Speaker 8 (01:45:05):
And we're calling him the greatest throwers of the football ever.

Speaker 7 (01:45:07):
And he did it when you could get knocked, you
get the living hell knocked out of you and standing
and he couldn't move a lick. Dan couldn't run from
me to you in five minutes, okay, but he didn't
need to single handedly. That ball come out quicker than
you can actually blink. And that's how and that's how
good he was. But he told me on numerous occasions
Sean it was I thought I was going back.

Speaker 6 (01:45:29):
Wasn't even multiple times, wasn't even the worst thing that
happened to him though, I mean, you got kidnapped by
Ray Finkel, einehorn.

Speaker 8 (01:45:36):
There you go. And then he asked Ace if he's
got any more of that gum.

Speaker 6 (01:45:39):
That's right, Danny Football. It's none of your damn business. Dan,
and I appreciate if you stay out of my personal affairs.
You're a weird guy, a a real weird guy.

Speaker 7 (01:45:48):
The fact that you know every single line of all
these movies is fascinating to me. Hi, I'm looking for right,
I know the movie, but all those studies, possibly a
new pair of shorts.

Speaker 8 (01:45:58):
How many people think?

Speaker 7 (01:45:59):
No, like, how many people that are listening of the
percentage when you when you roll through those How many
people know your lines?

Speaker 6 (01:46:06):
The true I have confidence in our audience. I think
most of our audience probably knows Ace.

Speaker 7 (01:46:10):
Yeah, I think so. I do like the move. Well,
the movie was tremendous. Is Trump It's just tremendous. But yeah,
I would say there's something but you're you're in rarefied here.
When it comes to being able to quote movie lines,
I see them. All I can give you all the movies.
I just can't give you all the quotes in the
movie lines, but you can. But yeah, Dan's a best

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supporting actor in a comedy role. Yeah, there you go,
he's a man. There you go, all your properly rated. Oh,
I think it's properly I think. I think I think
most people probably feel that way. All all Ice was
trying to do is just rescue Snowflake, which he did
and in the process rescue Dan Dan Marino.

Speaker 8 (01:46:49):
Who doesn't want it today. There you go.

Speaker 7 (01:46:50):
Dan would have loved that. If he'd rescued him and
got him a ring, that would have been nice.

Speaker 6 (01:46:54):
That would have been That would have been Unfortunately, Ace
could only do so much. He is not a miracle worker.
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Sean Salisbury Show on a Friday. The seven ninety listener
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eight hundred car cash Biscuit.

Speaker 8 (01:47:16):
Good morning, biscuit, how you doing hey?

Speaker 14 (01:47:19):
Top of the morning. My brother, somebody Sean, before I
get in my asstro you know when you guys were
talking about Leech and spur Man that the coach immediately
came to mind. It was McKay man, Oh, yeah, do
you have me to action? I know you will have
Robinson to do you have any.

Speaker 7 (01:47:37):
I not a lot, but I did. Real quick story
is I'll and I'll share it with you. But Biscuit,
actually coach McKay was actually Leech and spur before Leech
and Spurrier. You're exactly right, Yeah, an animated opinion and
quick one liners, a smart ass and a great football
mind and knew how to recruit. We're in Notre Dame

(01:47:59):
and it's not a funny story, but it was like,
oh my gosh. We're at Notre Dame getting ready to
play and our head coach said, we have a guest speaker,
and you know it's Notre Dame, so your your nerves
are on end. You're ready to go. And he said,
I have a guest speaker, and all of a sudden,
we had no idea who was and we were in
South Bend the day of the game. So coming up
before on our pregame speech, coach turns it over and

(01:48:21):
coach John McKay comes walking in and Coach McKay said,
he gave it it all, you know speech and like
he's revered, right, even if you didn't spend time with him,
the reputation like this is coach McKay. So I have
minimal dealings with him, but enough to know, right. And
he stood there and he told us he goes, he
went through his speech and then I'll never forget it.
Near the end, he said, I want you to make

(01:48:41):
sure you enjoy this and cherish this, he said, because
there will be no game you play in in your
life that will sit harder, longer, or better or word
depending on the result of the game. There's no game
you will remember more than uscver Notre Dame, this one.

Speaker 6 (01:49:02):
And he's right, thisscuit.

Speaker 7 (01:49:03):
I played in a lot of as a Minnesota Viking,
playing against Green Bay, being in the playoffs, playing in
a championship, you know, whatever it is along the way.

Speaker 8 (01:49:11):
You can ask me about it. A lot of those games.

Speaker 7 (01:49:13):
Yeah we got beat here to this, but that feeling
I'm talking that, and that's what he was talking about.
That feeling and cherishing of you did not many people
get to. You're at South Bend playing against Notre Dame,
and we're both good. What his point was is, no
matter what goes on, no matter how much money you make,
no matter what you do suit, it won't matter this
one because college hits different basically, you know that, because
we're it almost feels like it's our that's it's like family.

(01:49:37):
You go to the pros, it's more of a business.
Now college is too, but then it wasn't. There was
still some purity to it. And he's right. You can
tell me everything about well, Sean, when you walked into
green Yan Lambeau historic traditional, it was awesome. But when
I can remember every nook and cranny and every single
thing about that day, I can from bookstore to his speech,

(01:49:58):
to the day before getting in it fight with a
teammate because we were uptight about the game. He is
one of my best friends. Although after the walk through
in the locker room, hitting shoulders and fighting because the
intensity of who we were getting ready to play, and
then coach McKay comes in and says that, yeah, he's right, man,
sc notre Dame biscuit. I still to this day talk
more about that rivalry and that game in that day

(01:50:20):
than I do when when when I was the NFL
Player of the Week, and I mean it as a
pat on the back. I remember it more playing at
South Bend and he was right. So McKay was great
with a quick line. He and he and your guy
from Alabama, obviously Bear Bryant were tight. He was a
fun storyteller and held in the highest regard at Southern Cow,

(01:50:41):
no doubt.

Speaker 11 (01:50:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:50:43):
And like you say, sing those robberies back in the day,
those must be TV right there.

Speaker 7 (01:50:48):
And they hit different. They hit different than any NFL
game you play, brother, I'm just telling you did was unread.

Speaker 3 (01:50:56):
You.

Speaker 14 (01:50:56):
You wasn't around last year, Sean, but shot. I had
him in here have some of the uh fire spoter
and uh Dana Brown on one.

Speaker 7 (01:51:06):
Of those conversations. I'm here, just not here here. Yeah,
I heard him. I've got done. I don't see many. Hey, man,
when are we firing Joe and his data done here?

Speaker 6 (01:51:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:51:16):
Bring back uh Jeff Lou. Yeah, we're not here. A
lot of that right now, are we business?

Speaker 6 (01:51:21):
A lot of that?

Speaker 14 (01:51:22):
Man. I'm like, you know, it's amazing, man, Just I
give a spot of credit man that he's just that
steady hand and I guess that personalized touching you know, said, man,
he don't never get he's not firing enough and he
get thrown out of games. He's too much of a friend.

Speaker 15 (01:51:39):
Of the players.

Speaker 14 (01:51:40):
Okay, how's that working out? Man?

Speaker 7 (01:51:42):
Yep, you're one hundred percent correct, Biscuit. It's uh. Those
are few and far between now, aren't they. It's crazy? Yeah,
you are one percent correct, brother.

Speaker 14 (01:51:51):
A spot of credit.

Speaker 16 (01:51:52):
Man.

Speaker 14 (01:51:53):
I think he if he keeps his pace up, he's
definitely in line for Manners in the Year.

Speaker 16 (01:51:58):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:51:58):
Oh, I think I gotta be.

Speaker 7 (01:52:00):
If they voted at the mid season awards, he is
the manager of the Year, Biscuit, no doubt. I don't
think there's any doubt. Ye, great stuff. I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:52:11):
Yeah, fifteen games about five hundred usually gets a lot
of patience from people.

Speaker 8 (01:52:15):
And and that's when you're healthy.

Speaker 6 (01:52:17):
And I don't know if if it's been a concentration
of the TV side, but they've shown Joe in those
tense moments a little bit more. And yesterday I think
it was the ninth inning, standing top the top step
of the dugout right there on the steps, He's got
a baseball in his left hand, kind of you know,
tossing it back and forth there a little bit, but

(01:52:39):
then leaning against the railing, you know, watching what's going on,
and I'm like, oh, he's dialed in, He's he's having
fun right now. This is this is him saying, this
is baseball and we're getting it done.

Speaker 7 (01:52:49):
Kind of goes to show you, as Biscus mention, you
don't need to be a constant yeller and screamer. And
we always said, does he get more fire or is
he too close to the players? We brought it up
on this show.

Speaker 6 (01:52:59):
It was a concern.

Speaker 7 (01:53:00):
I said, it said, I love him, but other players
do they get too comfortable with him?

Speaker 6 (01:53:04):
And the answer is no.

Speaker 7 (01:53:06):
Joe Spotta gets it and he has been nothing short
of phenomenal in year two as well.

Speaker 6 (01:53:10):
Speaking of sc Notre Dame, this is something we never
had a chance to get to. What about Lincoln Riley
being reluctant to commit to the future of that rivalry.

Speaker 7 (01:53:20):
I'm going to tell you now, if he doesn't sell that,
I don't care how much money. And I like link
I do. I think Lincoln Riley's brilliant offensive mind, but
they don't play defense. Won't matter, right, But he's brilliant
when it comes to calling plays, but do not if
you really want to be out of a job at
USC preach against that rivalry. I can't fathom that he's

(01:53:40):
not all in on it.

Speaker 8 (01:53:41):
I just can't.

Speaker 7 (01:53:42):
I know what's going on with the talk right now.
You got to crawl ten miles over broken glass to
keep that rivalry because, first of all, lose to Notre
Dame in UCLA a couple times as a head coach,
you will.

Speaker 8 (01:53:52):
Not have a job.

Speaker 7 (01:53:53):
Secondly, preach against that rivalry and the USC alum alone, hell,
Notre Dame will jump into the fray too. That is
that rivalry on a national scale is even bigger and
more important to Southern cal And I know it's going
to sound crazy than beating UCLA.

Speaker 8 (01:54:07):
We expected to beat Ucla.

Speaker 7 (01:54:09):
Notre Dame was a fistfighter, and UCLA beat US two
no disrespect. It's because you played high school against those
guys are somewhere on your own team. My high school
football coaches at UCLA. He played at UCLA, so it
was all there and it was kind of fun and
ribbon and getting after it, and it mattered on game day.
But in the national scope of things, if you're Lincoln Riley,
you better beg, borrow, cheat and steel to keep that
rivalry in place, because the quickest.

Speaker 8 (01:54:32):
Way to get start selling that we don't need that rivalry.

Speaker 7 (01:54:34):
And watch watch what happens with the players and the
former players and the border regents and the rest of
When they.

Speaker 6 (01:54:39):
Say, what did you just say?

Speaker 8 (01:54:43):
That's that's you.

Speaker 7 (01:54:45):
You're committing career suicide, or at least USC suicide. If
that's where you want to go. Lincoln Riley smarter than that.
Get rid of it, Get rid of them and bring
back coach. Oh, there's plenty of people that want coach
oors Aron back at USC.

Speaker 6 (01:55:00):
Trust me as a recruiter and just getting after it.

Speaker 7 (01:55:04):
Coach Oorgeron brought USC and John Robinson to him and
they went and won a national title. So I don't
have a problem with him return in the favor. I'd
love him in that building. Who wouldn't coach yep in
La Yeah, well time let's go. Yeah, I'm dude, I'm
all in if that, If that happened, If I was
like Riley, I just put him on as there's a
special assistant, just like he did with John. Stick him

(01:55:26):
on there with me and there's a little Firelanders belly
that will never go away. They will meaning coach O. Yeah,
that'd be great. And also ask him if he likes
SC Notre Dame rivalry.

Speaker 8 (01:55:36):
Oh, I think I know.

Speaker 7 (01:55:37):
Ask him how he feels about that game week? Yeah,
you know how he feels. I got a good idea.

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:55:41):
Continue the Astros conversation. Tough series coming up for this shows.
How can they approach it? We'll talk about it right here.
It is Sewn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety Coach
Sark here, touchdown, Texas.

Speaker 17 (01:55:54):
You've got Sports Talk seven ninety, Houston's home of Longhorn Football.

Speaker 6 (01:55:59):
Back to the on Salisbury Show.

Speaker 8 (01:56:03):
Good morning, Joe, Hey, I was.

Speaker 15 (01:56:06):
A guy good. I was watching her. I was watching
a YouTube video to day and there was some Philly
fans that were mad and said that they were mad
that the Phillies couldn't score on the cheating Astros. Their words,
not mine. And I just want to say our pitching amazing.
Hunter Brown looks like he might be m v P.
Can I forget the and we have no Tucker, no Bregman,

(01:56:33):
and hour is out, but yet we're still doing good
and we got players stepping up like Frady Smith Walker
and this new guy Kennedyan pronounce's name is like humble
or something like that. That's got that, And I'll hang
up and listen. I want to see what y'all think
about that stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:56:51):
No, I appreciate, appreciate the call.

Speaker 6 (01:56:53):
I mean, that's that's the go to line for any
opposing fan base is just to go that low hanging
fruit and look, you're sore losers, and you know, take
your l and move on. And now for the Phillies,
they go on to Atlanta and you know, go about
your season and maybe we'll see you in October. Who knows.

Speaker 8 (01:57:09):
But it's I don't even stop to acknowledge it anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:57:12):
He used to really bother me, but now it's just
kind of like you keep telling the same joke over
and over again. I'm not even gonna give you the
pity laugh to like make you feel like you really
delivered the punchline. Like I know the punchline now, trust me,
we're good. I've heard it.

Speaker 7 (01:57:27):
Yeah, it's listen the people say it looking for a reaction, yeah,
And I just to me, it's that's the old go
to when you really don't know what else to say,
meaning them, I don't care and it doesn't mean a
hill of beans.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
See.

Speaker 6 (01:57:44):
The funny thing is, as I saw speaking of braves fans,
I saw a guy that commented about the Astros being
inevitable all of that, and then a couple of Astros
fans responded and he goes, man, it really triggers you guys.
I wrote him back. I go, you're the one who
started it. And then they responded to you, who's the
one who's triggered here? Chief Like, nobody nobody came at you,

(01:58:05):
nobody called you names, nobody did any of those things.
But you're the one who you wanted to have this interaction.

Speaker 8 (01:58:11):
Now you got it. Don't bitch because you got it right.

Speaker 7 (01:58:14):
Oh yeah, complain trigger Well, dude, that isn't a half it.
Wait till you get a reaction. Then we said, okay,
got mine. They're just looking for it.

Speaker 6 (01:58:20):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:58:21):
I'm not giving a reaction on the on that trash comes.
You got to come at me with a little more
than that.

Speaker 6 (01:58:27):
Well, it's just like remember the guy the what was
it a shame tour guy on Twitter that was out
there and I finally had responded to him when he
took exception with me, I go, you're.

Speaker 8 (01:58:38):
Trying to be a heel.

Speaker 6 (01:58:40):
The whole point of being a heel is embracing this
and going through it and knowing that that's gonna come
at you. But look at the best heels in all
of wrestling history, they embrace it. It's fun for them,
that's the whole point of it. You can't be thin skinned.
Didn't do that and then get upset when people get
upset with you. That's not how this works.

Speaker 7 (01:58:59):
Well yeah, I just that, Well, that's that's the typical
give it and you pound your chest. When somebody gives
it back to you, you you fight it back, and
you get thin skinned and and you know, you turn
it into.

Speaker 8 (01:59:14):
An argument and make it personal. Sax.

Speaker 7 (01:59:16):
Just stop. That's why I just don't engage with that stuff.
And I mean we all have and sometimes you do.
But when it comes to the astros and they're the
cheating talk and all that stuff, it's they have nothing
else to say and obviously have done zero research. So
if I'm not going to take advice from him, why
the hell would I give their opinion any any pay

(01:59:37):
any attention at all to it?

Speaker 6 (01:59:38):
And especially time and time again, how many times do
you have to be proven wrong, right, Like, seriously, twenty
two should have been enough.

Speaker 7 (01:59:45):
So does it are you still a little triggered by it?
Does it bother you when people say it? I'm more
of just the lack of originality. A guy comes into
a bar setting next to you, He and his buddy
start in, and then the guy says, yeah, you guys
cheated an he's serious and it's not if he jokes
about you laughing. Okay, you're having a beer together. But
he's one of those guys unrelenting. Do you do you
sit there and have to defend the astros or do

(02:00:06):
you give him the old you got an ultimatum? You
can turn and walk, just let it go. I'm not
engaging in this. I mean, does it still trigger you?

Speaker 3 (02:00:12):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (02:00:13):
Is that jose L Tuvey? And then I kick out
their chair? There you go, Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 6 (02:00:17):
Yeah it still gets you a little bit, right, I mean,
it's just if if you want to, if you want
to be obnoxious for the sake of being obnoxious, then
I'll meet you there.

Speaker 8 (02:00:25):
Sure, Why not? Right for a petty like that? If
you want to be petty, I can match your petty.

Speaker 3 (02:00:29):
Now.

Speaker 8 (02:00:29):
Oh you fell down?

Speaker 6 (02:00:30):
Oh my gosh, are you okay? And I'm not helping
you up? Type of fancaft there here, Let me help
you with that.

Speaker 8 (02:00:36):
Oh well he fell down again.

Speaker 6 (02:00:40):
Yeah? What were you saying again about the astron I'm
so clumsy.

Speaker 8 (02:00:45):
Nothing I could do.

Speaker 6 (02:00:46):
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Speaker 6 (02:02:18):
Baretta's scores actually be Peretti's first and out to get
my point. I get your point, That's all I always
you always love that. It's a big spot in the game.
Strike three TK there you got them. Yeah, good stuff man,
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(02:02:40):
Julia is awesome on the field, the players, everybody, we
we for sure, as you said, we are very lucky
around here. Is the Astros win? You have stay two
to one over the Phillies. They sweep that series over
at tik In Park. Now you bring the Cubs in
town over the weekend. Welcome back Kyle Tucker and Ryan Presley.

Speaker 7 (02:02:58):
So they were nine and four on the thirteen right straight, yep,
you sweep, which gets you now to twelve and four,
your last sixteen playing. Well, remember Dana Brown and they
this was around the time last year they they was
moving months for them. Yeah, same thing here, and Dana
Brown constantly says, we'll get hot, we'll roll off someone

(02:03:20):
a rope. Well, this is part of that visitation what
he teach. He warns you that this is going to happen.
Twelve and four shut out the Phillies and gave them
one run during the series one, and Schwarbert didn't leave
the infield.

Speaker 8 (02:03:34):
We're in the grind every day.

Speaker 7 (02:03:36):
That's right, and it's their grit and he just but
you know what, it's pretty simplistic, but it's real and
he's he's right, hang on, Astros fans, we're coming. Yeah,
that's exactly right. Twelve and four is about what he
had in mind. Now, you'd like twelve and four to
look different when he scored nine runs a game, but
you know what, it don't matter. How when this is
all said and done, you think you're gonna be looking

(02:03:58):
back saying, man, we only scored one running beatfil they'll
figure you're not gonna give a rats ass. No, Now
you score one run of the playoffs in single elimination,
get beat because somebody out pitched you. Then a different ballgame.
But it's it's been very pleasing to see what they've
done this first eighty one games. And that's exactly where
at the midpoint today and an end of what about

(02:04:20):
five four thirty or so yesterday is when you hit
that midpoint and they are what fifteen games over five
hundred forty eight and thirty three and sitting in first
place and a pitching staff that takes a backseat to nobody.

Speaker 8 (02:04:33):
Impressive, it really is.

Speaker 6 (02:04:36):
Is the Astros get the Cubs in town, who share
the same record as them too, and both of them
are two and a half games back of the Tigers
and the Dodgers for the best record in all of baseball.
So maybe you're able to finish out this month of
June carried over in the July and head into the
All Star break on a lot of momentum that at

(02:04:56):
this time last year you didn't have as much momentum,
but the Astros definitely carrying that this year. So someone
three two, one two five seven ninety is the number
two get in DFW. Jacob once away in Jacob, good morning.

Speaker 12 (02:05:12):
Hey, good morning, thanks again for having me on you guys. Yeah,
I think the Astros are obviously in a great place.
And I say this precariously, and this phrase has been
passed around quite a bit, and I think about it
every time. Is the Astros are inevitable.

Speaker 1 (02:05:30):
Who knows what.

Speaker 12 (02:05:31):
Will happen in the second half, but you know it's
things are going really great. And you know, you really
do have to tip your hat to Dana Brown, you know,
with all of these days, all of these moves that
he's done, that Kyle Tucker trade. You know, it's just
it's we we hated to see it go. But who
knows where we'd be without Without cam Smith and of

(02:05:54):
course you know Opinia and and Myers is you know,
improvement in playing all that, but just you know, if
without Brown's eye for pitching, with that, with that, not
just the back end of the bullpen, but you know,
Okre or all those supporting role guys, you know, and

(02:06:14):
then the depth of the pitching, who knows where the
Astros would be. Of course, I you know, we saw
I have a whole second half to go. I don't
want to pop the bottles of champagne nowt but yeah, man,
they are they are rolling man, it is just an
exciting time. You know, their bats may not be scoring
like five or six rounds a game, but you know,

(02:06:35):
at least with this they demonstrated this this last series,
they've been hitting when it matters. You know, the clutch
factor has got to be was was on par And
it's not just from one person. It's like every night
it's somebody different, you know, and that's huge.

Speaker 3 (02:06:53):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:06:53):
I just hope that that carries into the second half
of this season. And how about Josh Oh my gosh, man.
I remember I called into you guys last year and
and Hater had that rough start, you know, and it
correspaired with the ross start the entire season.

Speaker 1 (02:07:10):
Laughter.

Speaker 12 (02:07:10):
But now he is just I've got to eat my words.
He's just are we looking at another Mariano Rivera? You know,
it's like it like, no matter what he throws, he's
he's almost unhittable.

Speaker 16 (02:07:23):
I mean, I mean he could throw like five sliders
and this every single time, and it's just it's incredible.
It's incredible over or watching.

Speaker 12 (02:07:35):
It's just I mean, I just hope that it continues
with the addition of your don going go moving forward
and uh yeah, go Astros.

Speaker 11 (02:07:46):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (02:07:47):
No, I appreciate the call Jacob safe driving too. I mean,
he does sound like he's driving safe. I heard the
blinker being turned on right there, so we put on him.
But no, I mean hater twenty one of twenty one
this year. I mean, it really comes down to everything.
He was just talking about two things, Sean the pitching,
and Dana Brown says it all the time. He says
it with three exclamation points. Pitching, pitching, pitching, and that's

(02:08:08):
been the constant for this team this year. I think
the other thing is too, is the culture is not
wanting to let up. I mean, I think that's really
what you could probably point to is even with all
the new guys that come in there, I don't know
if it's necessarily spoken word, but it's understood of, Hey,
this is how you go about your business around here,
and this is how you're able to continue to contribute

(02:08:30):
to this thing if you want to be able to
stick around here.

Speaker 7 (02:08:33):
Oh, and it's I think it's pretty clear. It's about
as subtle as a punch to the face. And I
think guys take them well, it's obvious. Not think it's
obvious that they take on that role. And you know what,
don't discount how people talked about you before you started
this season. And I don't mean talking about it, just like, well,
are they going to be as good? And yeah, they

(02:08:54):
got rid of those two guys and Bregmann and you
know they moved on, should they say.

Speaker 6 (02:08:58):
And Presley's not here? And how long can the Ashles
keep doing this?

Speaker 7 (02:09:02):
Well, they will lose great players and keep doing it
well as long as they keep evaluating them the right way,
and you've got good people making smart baseball decisions. It's
a pretty it's a pretty good resume and presentation for
them to say, this is the way we do it,
and this way we'll continue to do it. So they
have been It's been the most surprising thing in baseball

(02:09:23):
this year has been this pitching staff and this team
being fifteen games over five hundred. If you had an
all star team, you'd be happy with fifteen games over
five hundred, eighty one games in. And the truth is,
and we can say it the ifs and hands and
butts and all that stuff, imagine that they're doing this

(02:09:46):
with all these injuries. If they get any offense from
Christian Walker and Jordan Alvarez. When he comes back and
the pitching stays the same, they're going to win mid nineties.
It's it's the it's the most it's a shocking is
not the word, but it's the most eye opening story

(02:10:06):
in baseball the first half of the season, other than
maybe as an individual that cal Raley's got seventy four
home runs at the All Star break. In truth, we
expect Otani to play well, you know, the normal stuff.
I expect Swarber to hit home runs. But you didn't
expect this.

Speaker 8 (02:10:21):
You didn't.

Speaker 7 (02:10:23):
And I would bet anybody to dare anybody to call
in and say, oh, yeah, I knew this was going
to happen. You may knew they were going to be
two games over five hundred, maybe in first place or battling.

Speaker 8 (02:10:32):
You didn't see this.

Speaker 7 (02:10:33):
It's the most impressive overall team thing in Major League
Baseball this year, regardless how other people playing. Detroit's good,
but we expected Detroit to be good. You expect this
team to be solid, but in one of those years,
that is the way I heard it is the window closing. Well,
if it was, they sure as hell kicked it open
and lifted it to the top again because they've they've

(02:10:54):
they're doing it the right way.

Speaker 8 (02:10:55):
Still a lot of baseball left.

Speaker 7 (02:10:57):
We only got eighty one games to judge, and at
the midway point people are going to give mid season
awards and do all that on national shows and the
rest of it. The mid season award is Jeremy Payne,
you should be in the MVP.

Speaker 1 (02:11:08):
Hut.

Speaker 7 (02:11:09):
Joe spot is the player of the year, I mean,
the coach of the year right now. And overall, this
pitching staff has been as impressive as any there is
in the league with what they've had to deal with,
and no choirs.

Speaker 6 (02:11:21):
Playing the way that he has, hitting the way that
he has. That's the biggest house story he's doing this. Yeah,
outside of really three guys. I mean, you know, we
said career years out of a couple of guys.

Speaker 8 (02:11:32):
I mean, pinion myers are having.

Speaker 6 (02:11:34):
The career is a handful of games for Cam Smith, So,
I mean, you've seen what you've gotten out of him.
He's got it seems to me that he's got a
little bit of a gene for clutch as you saw
yesterday as well. Impressive. It's been fun watch, ye, There's
no doubt about it. Brandon, Good morning, Brandon, how are
you good morning?

Speaker 1 (02:11:56):
How are you good?

Speaker 9 (02:11:57):
Many the fairies out of here?

Speaker 8 (02:12:01):
That's it. What was your favorite part of yesterday's game?

Speaker 6 (02:12:06):
Ibelievabes, all right, but I mean like camp Smith's go
ahead single pitching Hunter Brown.

Speaker 8 (02:12:15):
What did you like the most?

Speaker 11 (02:12:18):
Go ahead one?

Speaker 8 (02:12:20):
Okay? So the camp Smith's single?

Speaker 6 (02:12:22):
All right? And now now you've got Kyle Tucker and
Ryan Presley coming back.

Speaker 8 (02:12:26):
So excited to see them.

Speaker 6 (02:12:28):
Yep, I will point them in the world.

Speaker 8 (02:12:30):
But all right, well, there you go.

Speaker 6 (02:12:32):
Well, Brandon, hopefully the Astros are able to continue taking
care of business and you know where to find us.

Speaker 8 (02:12:38):
Ye show. No, I'm off this weekend, so.

Speaker 6 (02:12:44):
I'm gonna I'm gonna be enjoying some time off.

Speaker 3 (02:12:46):
Man is Chris for.

Speaker 6 (02:12:50):
I think he's gonna I think he's gonna do Sunday,
and I think it's Matt tonight and Ross tomorrow. So
that's the that's the three man lineup you got this weekend.

Speaker 16 (02:13:01):
I like it.

Speaker 8 (02:13:02):
There you go, all right, man, have a good weekend.
We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 11 (02:13:05):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (02:13:07):
So yeah, I always know he can count on. Brandon
had a lot going on back there. Yeah, there was
a little voice in the background. That's just him fighting
through it. Doc said, and stay the course, you find
a way. Somebody's in. You just got to keep on
keeping on. Yeah, I like it. You know what it was?
He he listened to John Gruden. But more importantly, I
want better execution.

Speaker 8 (02:13:28):
We clear on that. I want better execution.

Speaker 6 (02:13:31):
And I guess what we got better execute, solid execution,
solid execution. There we go. How good has this Astros
pitching staff been? The numbers don't lie. We'll talk about
it right here. It is Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (02:13:46):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 7 (02:13:50):
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Speaker 7 (02:14:31):
Fluent Podrag Harrington, you better turn up the volume and
have nothing. You gotta listen closely because that I mean,
it's a tough, tough one to get because he's I
mean he's full on deep Irish in his verbiage and everything.

Speaker 8 (02:14:45):
It's class.

Speaker 6 (02:14:46):
See, you've always been in America long enough that you
have to listen for it. But for Padrake Harrington you're
listening for I got to pick out a word about
every six. If you've got a if you've got a cartoon, Leprechaun,
he'd be a great voice for the cartoon. There is
absolutely no I'm absolutely able to fall on the fairways.

Speaker 8 (02:15:05):
Yeah, he's here at this golf course.

Speaker 7 (02:15:08):
It's I mean, with the wind in the mountain and
he's going, I can't do the Irish voice, but yes,
getting after it and Padrag, but tough golf course. Ball
is gonna fly a little bit there. So clubbing at
the right distance and stuff.

Speaker 6 (02:15:19):
I think a distant cousin of Joey Harrington too.

Speaker 8 (02:15:22):
Really, I think I remember that one not to.

Speaker 7 (02:15:24):
Be distant, because I don't think Aaron Joey speaks fluent padreg.
But the other thing about it is to these the
dudes that are up there and watching, like Miguel on
Hell and Menez, they're still smoking it two ninety and
they're still attacking flags. Your guy who is hitting the ball,
hit the hell out of the ball right now, is

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on Hell Cabrera. Obviously he was a Charlie Ups guy
who's been a teacher in this town forevertire the great
Charlie Ups. So there's really you know, you think justin
Leonard and he's out there striping it not very long,
but hits it close and makes punts. It's I'm still fascinating.
Do you think hit another one yesterday? Almost went in
the hole, almost hold out. He's shorter than everybody, always
hitting first, but hitting last, usually other Greeds because he

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he nestles him pretty close. But yeah, it's going on
and just the beat the hell was one thing watching
the tournament with the Broadmoor. I have never played there,
but it's a place I think you gotta play. Well,
it's good looking. We went there when I was eight. Yeah,
never been to that golf course, but it's cool. So yeah,
that's going on right now, man. And then the British
Open will be later this month, and you know, obviously
Rory's going to be one of the favorites and Birkdale's

(02:16:30):
a tough golf course and the Schefflers and the live
guys and the John Rams will be excited for that too,
and they come in a hurry. So I'm sure those
guys are getting prepared and they're in Detroit this week
playing in that in the tournament, in the what is
it Rocket Mortgage, Yeah, laying there. So yeah, as you
can say, I'm a little obsessed with all that stuff.

Speaker 6 (02:16:50):
I was gonna say, they what was it Colin Markklee
getting into it with the guy the other day?

Speaker 7 (02:16:55):
Yeah, getting with it and very respectfully though, Yeah, and
mare I was a respectful guy. And you're just having
a little troubles, changing caddies a little bit and decisions
and trying to get back. Here's the guy changing caddies
and he's still want the like top twenty players in
the world. That's why they're always tinkering. And you got
a broadcast who puts both ways. Now, yeah, I've seen
him put right hand leed his note of the gay.
Yeah he yesterday saw he put it right handed. From

(02:17:18):
a little distance. He gets closer and he put it
left handed. It's like got that flat stick blade putter
where you could use it either way and it's good.
And normally you're here note of the gate broadcast and
he's uh, he's playing in this one.

Speaker 6 (02:17:30):
So it's really cool, monitors, he's walking up. Let's go
the seventeenth. Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, the Rock Classic. Chris Kirk,
not Charlie Kirk. Oh, I'm a big fan of Charlie Kirk.
Help melect Chris Kirk. Also an American. He's leading, he's
leading the tournament thirteen under park playing good golf.

Speaker 8 (02:17:50):
Is he really thirteen hunder? Dude?

Speaker 6 (02:17:52):
They started yet, what did you shoot yesterday? Fifty nine?

Speaker 7 (02:17:55):
He's six under today, so oh okay, So he got
the early tea time, so having a thirteen hunder and
he has it halfway through his second round, and boy,
things must be going well in Detroit for Christian Kirk
right now. Good gracious, he's moving along.

Speaker 6 (02:18:08):
There's no doubt the final major of the golf season
coming up here in just a couple of weeks. Let's
let's let's seeze Roger in here. We always know we
can call on Roger. Roger loves himself some golf too,
now he does.

Speaker 8 (02:18:20):
Roger, Good morning, give more insert.

Speaker 18 (02:18:23):
I just want to get your take on the Jerey
McKinney contract situation.

Speaker 15 (02:18:27):
Is uh, he and Scott Morris gonna mess this up.

Speaker 18 (02:18:31):
He didn't pay what he thinks he's worth and he's
gonna go somewhere else, or we just goat to work
with our farm late, bringing Bryce Matthews up, or try
to move camp Smith over to shortstop and get him
working on that because he's actually a natural third basement.
Maybe he could play short What do y'all think on that?

Speaker 7 (02:18:50):
And that's a different Roger. Well have our other Roger
who's handed golf. I don't know if this Rogers, but
the other Roger loves yeah, Roger, Roger, even a jolly Roger. Yeah,
that's exactly what you're good. Good candy clear clearance, Clarence. Yeah,
Vector Victor. To answer Rogers question, you don't have to
worry about that yet even though he hired Bors, pain

(02:19:10):
is not going anywhere. You got him under your umbrella
for a couple more years, what twenty eight Okay, so Roger,
don't don't chase that goes to borrow that trouble just yet,
No stress yet, you're gonna be playing well, enjoy it.
You're gonna You hired Bors for a reason to get
all the money you possibly can.

Speaker 8 (02:19:27):
Hopefully it'll be here.

Speaker 7 (02:19:29):
And they got a five million, well at least it
was on the table, or at least to talk of,
as already pointed out yesterday, five years at a buck
in a quarter somewhere in there, buckets buckle five Okay,
so twenty one million a year or whatever it is,
twenty one yeah, whatever, that is little seventeen right, so exactly.
But he probably thinks he can make double the seventeen million,

(02:19:51):
right he keeps playing like this, and he will. He's
at a premium position. But we don't have to worry
about that. But he hired Bors for a reason, and
yes it'll be there'll be some bumpy roads along the way.
Probably if I was payinia, I wouldn't take one hundred
and five right now, I'd bet on myself. If I
was the Astros, I'd hope that he does it this
year and does it again next year, and I wouldn't
be too hurry to offer him thirty five million a year,

(02:20:12):
why because I want to see him do it for
a full season again. I get neither one. I'm on
both sides right now. I get Penya and he hired Boris.
You don't think Boris is settling one hundred and five
million dollars, do you?

Speaker 3 (02:20:23):
No?

Speaker 6 (02:20:24):
Okay, neither do I. So I say I think if
nothing else, he would say, why don't we flip that
five and that zero around? And then we're getting into
the neighborhood here.

Speaker 7 (02:20:34):
Yeah, one fifty range, right and fair enough. So either way,
both have their argument now, but it's no rush. So Roger,
I get what you're saying, but I don't think we
need to worry about cam Smith or Bryce at that
position just yet, because you get the rest of this
season and you're gonna get next season. They'll get to talking,
but there is no what's the urgency of talking about it.
He hired Boris and you probably knew that was coming

(02:20:56):
down the pike. So you're putting a plan together and
one hundred and five million will not be enough to
keep paying you.

Speaker 6 (02:21:01):
We all know that.

Speaker 7 (02:21:02):
But as an extension, even when you're making four million,
the temptation said, yeah, Scott go. He hired Scott bors
for the reason to say, relax on the temptation. Dude,
we're gonna be fine. You're not going anywhere anytime soon.

Speaker 6 (02:21:12):
Like Dana last year, you talked to Scott Boris in
a while, Yeah, I need text him back.

Speaker 8 (02:21:17):
Exactly where it was, just like I'll get to him.

Speaker 7 (02:21:20):
Yeah, yeah, as I was like the newsage reminded of
bors Is out there.

Speaker 8 (02:21:25):
Yeah, I'll get back.

Speaker 6 (02:21:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:21:27):
Yeah, he called me.

Speaker 6 (02:21:29):
He didn't leave a message, so I'm not really sure
what he wanted to call about. So I figured if
he didn't leave a voicemail, it wasn't really that important.
So yeah, all this stuff that's got to deal with.

Speaker 7 (02:21:37):
Yeah, when I got time, and there's that one in
fromber first, there's stuff coming out of the bike. The
job's never easy when you're running a program or an organization, and.

Speaker 8 (02:21:48):
And they're doing it quite well here in Houston.

Speaker 6 (02:21:50):
He's making it look easier, especially the way this team
is playing. This bullpen is keeping teams to hitting two
oh seven on the season, six thirty seven ops the
ERA at three point two to one overall is a
team three forty ERA, leading the league in strikeouts seven
ninety eight. So while Pina is playing well Sean, the

(02:22:10):
pitching staff continues to be a stall wark.

Speaker 7 (02:22:13):
Now I almost say something may be hyperbolic, but I
think I believe. I think I believe this, and it's
not hot take for me. As good as Pain has
been and he has been fantastic, the overall pitching has
been better. And that's saying the guy's sitting what three
twenty five, somewhere in that range, what do we had?

(02:22:35):
Ten or eleven home run somewhere in the eleven home runs?
He double digits right now?

Speaker 6 (02:22:38):
Did he get you that ten? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:22:39):
Double digits home runs. Obviously he's on pace to he's
on pace to hit to get you have two hundred hits.

Speaker 6 (02:22:48):
He is on pace.

Speaker 7 (02:22:48):
He's over one hundred hits already, I think one hundred
and one going into yesterday's game. So he is, he's
having a monster season. But I can make the argument
as a group eleven homers.

Speaker 6 (02:22:59):
There you go.

Speaker 7 (02:23:00):
I can make the argument as a group that pitching
is impressive as pain has been the overall thing because
there's more bodies involved that the pitching's been starting and
bullpen have even been more impressive than Painia. And that's
saying something because the guy is an All Star and
will be an All Star, should be an All Star,
and to this team he's been as valuable as anybody,

(02:23:21):
but as an overall group and just judging from the
season they've had, I can say that the pitching has
been as impressive as any not just here.

Speaker 6 (02:23:29):
Is anybody in the league stealing bases? Two fifteen of them,
It'll be twenty twenty before August.

Speaker 8 (02:23:36):
Yeah, you'd think so, he should be.

Speaker 6 (02:23:38):
He should be.

Speaker 7 (02:23:39):
In the truth of matter, he's strong enough to be
a twenty five guy. He hit in the baseball you
know he's gonna steal twenty. He runs and he is
everything he hits. He's going all out and there's not
a whole lot of worrying about him popping up and
you'm jogging out where it actually lands. And the guy
plays the way it's supposed to and his production is
now the production matches the potential now at.

Speaker 6 (02:24:01):
Least this year, and he's he's been really, really frigging
good been a huge reason why of this team's fifteen
games above five hundred, and they're trying to be able
to continue that pace. All right, an NFL legend sticks
up for CJ Stroud? How did they exactly stick up
for c J Stroud. We'll talk about it right here.
It is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety. The

(02:24:22):
seven ninety listener line here in the nine o'clock hour
is presented by one eight hundred car cash.

Speaker 8 (02:24:28):
Overrated, Underrated, properly rad the Love Train properly.

Speaker 6 (02:24:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:24:34):
I think it's underrated. Yeah, I think the Love Train
might be underrated. I think that's one of those songs
that people hear it and they're like, you know, oh
hey I love this song.

Speaker 7 (02:24:41):
Yeah great, Yeah, just because it's a little energy booster. Yeah,
I would agree. It's gets the dance floor going, old
time classic it is, there you go, it is. I
think Matt Thomas has that on his phone, no doubt,
that's a no brainer. He's probably listening right now. We'll
just oh yeah, yeaheah, he's in good for him. Hey,
four hours today, you're putting four is And then, as I.

Speaker 6 (02:25:04):
Heard him mentioned yesterday, I guess his daughter Carly has
a volleyball tournament.

Speaker 1 (02:25:08):
He'll be working.

Speaker 6 (02:25:09):
She is going to play in college, but that he
is going to be working the show while she's not playing.
So well, Matt next week too. It's a grinder that
Matt Thomas is.

Speaker 1 (02:25:21):
Why are you on?

Speaker 6 (02:25:22):
Why are you on?

Speaker 8 (02:25:23):
Mattie? It's a labor of love.

Speaker 6 (02:25:26):
Yeah, why why you?

Speaker 8 (02:25:27):
Why are you on him? For taking like working from
home yesterday? Do you hear the guy when he walks
into the studio.

Speaker 6 (02:25:33):
Yeah, you guys like to get out of you, Matt,
breakfast occers.

Speaker 8 (02:25:37):
They look good, they're fine, that's that's fine, fine, whatever, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:25:42):
Because I mean I I do agree with his point
about not everything could be great. Yeah, great, Yeah, oh
it's great, that tremendous. Like I actually did work with
somebody once. So if everybody gave you the right answer,
that that how they really felt when right? How are
you feeling? Yeah? Fair to Midland today?

Speaker 8 (02:26:00):
Today's Midland?

Speaker 6 (02:26:00):
Is it?

Speaker 7 (02:26:01):
Yeah? I feel great today? Yeah, but everything can't be great?
So what are you gonna say?

Speaker 8 (02:26:05):
Not every single day?

Speaker 6 (02:26:06):
But I worked with somebody who's the complete opposite of
Matt that, like you mentioned anything about a place people
whoever it was, Oh they're great. Oh there, there's there's
they're so amazing there. It's just like, oh my god.
It is incredibly disingenuous that you feel that way. Because
you don't feel that way.

Speaker 8 (02:26:24):
Why did you ask.

Speaker 11 (02:26:26):
Them?

Speaker 8 (02:26:26):
Yeah, what you said, how are you doing today? It
would never even be an ask.

Speaker 6 (02:26:29):
It would just be somebody else made a statement about, Hey,
I went to this burger place last Oh it's so great.

Speaker 7 (02:26:34):
Oh my god, everything's everything's phenomenal.

Speaker 6 (02:26:38):
Yeah and great.

Speaker 8 (02:26:38):
Oh yes, I mean some burghers are better than others.

Speaker 6 (02:26:41):
Trust me. I, like, you know, to Matt's point, I
will let you know, Like you know, hey, how's how's
that burger you're eating?

Speaker 8 (02:26:47):
That's fine.

Speaker 7 (02:26:48):
Yeah, I'm not gonna brown nose, just a brown nose, right, No,
for sure, kiss the ass of a burger because it's
an average burger. If it's an average I'll let you
know because I had a good smash burger last night
over at car back. There you go, there you go,
great fries, there you go. So but then there's the
opposite one that we've talked about and we've kind of
mentioned that everything's just woe with me. Yeah, you know

(02:27:09):
that guy, that gal, it's just I mean, and you
do then you walk down the hallway and you know
when I ask how they're doing all, it's going to
be better. Going to grab a lunch pail. Yeah, yeah,
it's gonna be because.

Speaker 6 (02:27:22):
That's that's one of those even though you planned on
just doing a drive by, just like a quicklick.

Speaker 8 (02:27:25):
Hey keep walking, You didn't make eye contact.

Speaker 6 (02:27:28):
Hey what's up? Oh my back started hurting, then my
knees started hurting.

Speaker 7 (02:27:33):
It's Friday. I got so much to do before I
get home. Yeah, it's just like and we wake up tomorrow.
I'm not going to get to enjoy my weekend because
I got to run around the kids and and then
you know, my dog's got to go to the vat.

Speaker 8 (02:27:45):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (02:27:46):
And I got a grocery shop, and you know what
the price is of groceries. I know they've gone down,
but you know, and then I look at the gas
tank and I got to fill up, and I'm so
tired of not having full service gas tanks. Get you know,
they're one of those right that everything luck with that buddy,
Well wait a second, latest thing I wanted to tell you, though, I.

Speaker 8 (02:28:03):
Gotta get moving, man, you gotta get that. Ye have
a good week, get an muh okay, we'll catch up
next Monday.

Speaker 7 (02:28:09):
Yeah, I talk to you. Which wait, I'm sure the
story will be the same. Yeah, you're ailing back right
right exactly. Sometimes it's the things that can be a
down dude. It it's ahead. Give me the everything's great person.
More than the everything's it's just a downer. Life sucks.
Oh yeah, that one where it's like, okay, it may today,

(02:28:33):
the sun will come out to you know, it's gonna
be odd.

Speaker 6 (02:28:38):
If you need some help, we're here for you. But
if you just want Hey, I want power Ball? How
you doing?

Speaker 7 (02:28:44):
I want power Ball? Oh congression? Yeah, I know I
want a billion, but I gotta pay taxes, auto. I'm
only going to get seven hundred million. Oun No, seven
hundred and twenty five million or whatever. That's all I'm
gonna get. It's you know, it's great, but now I
got to go to Austin and pick it up, right,
nobody's the delivering it to me.

Speaker 6 (02:29:00):
Yeah. That person that could turn powerbally two what Yeah,
I gotta gotta do the big check thing all of that. Yeah, yeah,
I don't even nobody's gonna know you.

Speaker 8 (02:29:09):
I don't even know if the bank takes it. Yeah,
what am I gonna do?

Speaker 7 (02:29:12):
It's to pay seven hundred and twenty five million dollars
after TAXI I mean it was it was a billion,
you know. The last one that won won two billion.
I I'm pissed off that I didn't. They couldn't wait
till get to two billion when I went, why can't
I just have the six numbers?

Speaker 6 (02:29:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (02:29:25):
What about me? When do I get mine? That person?

Speaker 6 (02:29:29):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (02:29:30):
We all know that person though? Am I right? Fredo
was that way?

Speaker 6 (02:29:34):
We all know that person? Yeah, you're my kid, brother, Mike,
you take care of me. That's the way that Pop
wanted it.

Speaker 4 (02:29:41):
That's not the way that I wanted it.

Speaker 6 (02:29:43):
Yeah, John Cazzali tell them the movie oh Godfather too?

Speaker 1 (02:29:48):
There you go.

Speaker 7 (02:29:48):
Yeah, some people haven't watched There are some who haven't
watched Godfather one, and I don't want to reference them
that they've been on the show before.

Speaker 6 (02:29:54):
You're weak, Fredo, and I want nothing to do with
you anymore. Fredo was, uh, the who was the actor
of that?

Speaker 8 (02:30:01):
John is?

Speaker 1 (02:30:02):
There?

Speaker 11 (02:30:02):
You go?

Speaker 8 (02:30:02):
That's right, That's why you just said it earlier.

Speaker 1 (02:30:04):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (02:30:05):
All four major films that he was in were all
nominated for Academy Awards, every single one of them.

Speaker 8 (02:30:11):
It's not a bad gig, No, it means you're making
an impact in your movie.

Speaker 3 (02:30:14):
Huh.

Speaker 6 (02:30:15):
Because he was deer Hunter. He was that deer Hunter,
great flicking. That's underrated. Godfather one and two. I forget
the other one that he was in, but uh, yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:30:24):
You're my kid, brother, you take care of me. Yep,
what a what a what a what a show man?

Speaker 1 (02:30:31):
What a movie?

Speaker 8 (02:30:32):
He sold him out though, Yeah, oh I know he did.

Speaker 6 (02:30:34):
Yeah, that's why I said, what a movie. And then
that's when Freda went fishing and Fredo didn't come back.

Speaker 8 (02:30:39):
Yeah, well Fredo became a fish.

Speaker 6 (02:30:40):
That's it.

Speaker 7 (02:30:40):
One you caught and didn't release yead.

Speaker 6 (02:30:44):
Oh man, dude, I didn't know in Lake tah we
could catch one. Oh my god, there you go. Yeah,
call the authorities.

Speaker 7 (02:30:52):
When when those guys say, hey, man, uh meet us here,
we're gonna go out to We got to take a
little drive and bring a shovel and don't tell anybody
where you're going, it's probably.

Speaker 8 (02:31:02):
Not the words you want to hear.

Speaker 6 (02:31:03):
Back to the doc, they don't go anywhere they want
to talk to you. Why they want to talk to me?
All I do is just do a hook out there
for a fish. Yeah, don't take that car right now.

Speaker 7 (02:31:12):
Yeah, you could talk to your shovel, stick it in
the truck and don't tell anybody where you're going.

Speaker 8 (02:31:17):
All right, right you go.

Speaker 6 (02:31:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:31:20):
All I just came out to do was go fishing.
I got this.

Speaker 6 (02:31:22):
But anyway, Astros get the Cubs in town for a
weekend series after sweeping the Phillies to one win yesterday.
How about l J. Cryer signing an Exhibit ten contract
with the Warriors so hopefully is able to catch on
there in Golden State. But the Astros, so we'll continue

(02:31:42):
to talk to them. Do you want to get to
the NFL legend sticking up for c. J. Stroud. We'll
have that for you here before we close up shop.
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Speaker 6 (02:33:21):
I think he's pretty adept at that, so usually when
he talks about quarterback play, we're willing to.

Speaker 8 (02:33:26):
Listen if you're smart. Yeah. Yeah, it'd be wise with
both ears.

Speaker 6 (02:33:31):
For sure, for sure, and we will both get a
chance with both ears to do that right now, because
last week was the Fanatics Fest up in New York
and they had panels all those different types of things.
Manning was asked about CJ Stroud. Hey, you know, hey, Peyton,
you know CJ took a step back last year. He
had a down season. Here's how Peyton responded to that.

Speaker 17 (02:33:51):
I always talking about how hard it is as a
rookie to play. TJ kind of goes, obviously, it's not
that hard because he dominated as a rookie, And what
does that do that it gives defenses more film to
look at to know what they have to do to
try to stop him in his second year, right as
a rookie year, you know, and I don't know what
you're going to do. But guess who gets to figure
out what defenses are doing? CJ does by watching film

(02:34:13):
this season. Go oh, this is what they're trying to
do to me. Watch me counter this with this type
of play. So you know everybody wants to judge right away. Oh,
great rookie year.

Speaker 1 (02:34:22):
Second year.

Speaker 17 (02:34:22):
By the way, he went to the playoffs in his
second year, it was twenty two. Let's be careful saying
it was a down year. Okay, I didn't win a
playoff game till my sixth year, right, And so he's
two for two, and that's all he's trying to do
is give the Texans a chance.

Speaker 6 (02:34:40):
And giving them a really good chance, because I don't
think that most people around here. Again, it gets back
to the thousand foot view, the Peter King theory that
I've talked about before of people who don't necessarily watch
the Texans on a weekly basis. Most of us here
who do would say it wasn't on him, It was
on his offensive cord on him.

Speaker 7 (02:35:00):
Part of it is he's still got to deliver the
bald open receivers. I mean it's not it's in Peyton's right.
It's like, damn let's say they won the division. Okay,
the gaudy numbers weren't as gaudy as they were the
year before for a lot of reasons, offensive line play
coordinator backing off and not being as aggressive and all
those things that go with it. But he's not void

(02:35:22):
of any blame. There was times when the guy was
open and he missed a throw. It happens, which he
made the year before. But what do we consider a
down year? Would you rather had him throw for forty
three hundred yards and not make the playoffs?

Speaker 8 (02:35:36):
So yeah, a number eighteen.

Speaker 7 (02:35:38):
In a Colt uniform, in a Bronco uniform gets it,
understands the position, the difficulty. Like he said, year six
is when he finally wanted made a play. Its hard
to believe that was true, but fall no, he isn't.

Speaker 8 (02:35:49):
And think about Peyton Manning.

Speaker 7 (02:35:51):
Though he does the Monday night stuff, he's not in
a studio set every day on the set basketball I
mean football show, right, he doesn't do a podcast every day.
He's a family guy, a lot of business interests, all
those things, and then does this stuff. The fact that
he knows in and outs about what CJ. Stroud's doing
on a regular. He doesn't live here. I can understand
if he's talking about arch Manning, but that just goes

(02:36:12):
to show you that dude still pays attention to everything.
And that's the way he was as a player. I'm
talking about every detail everything. He really isn't so but
if you went and asked him about bow Nicks, he's
going to give you the same. It won't be the
same evaluation. But in evaluation sake, did.

Speaker 6 (02:36:27):
You watch all seventeen games they put you?

Speaker 7 (02:36:30):
Probably did somehow someway. The guy's watching, so he gets it.
He's right, so be careful to the overcredit. To win
back to back division titles your first two years in
the scene as a starter, I'm imagining that hasn't been
done many times from a quarterback.

Speaker 8 (02:36:45):
Brady didn't do it. Manning didn't do it. It's hard
to do.

Speaker 6 (02:36:49):
He actually had the success that you said that Arch
Manning could be a victim of right where he came out,
was able to have a hell of a season and
people are like, man, he might be creeping up on
Mahomes and all those guys right now. I mean, you know,
those were things that were being said about c. J.
Strout after his first time, and we were too quick
to crown him of the Hall of Famer too. We

(02:37:09):
oh my gosh, the expect he's going to be the
next Patrick Malmes. And he might. But let's it's one
here and just like this, it's Oaks sophomore year.

Speaker 7 (02:37:16):
They struggled and he still managed along the way to
have this team not only get to the playoffs, get
you know, the divisional part of it. They just couldn't
get over the hump. So he's off to a pretty good.

Speaker 6 (02:37:30):
Start in his career.

Speaker 7 (02:37:31):
And I assure you Number eighteen knows his weaknesses and
knows his strengths, and there's more strength than weaknesses.

Speaker 3 (02:37:36):
For c J.

Speaker 6 (02:37:36):
Strout.

Speaker 7 (02:37:37):
And now it's back in his lap. How do we
counteract the way they played us last year? And that's
the part of the growth that Peyton Manning was as
good as anybody in the history of this game. Are
the mental grind it takes to figure out how to
attack a defense, and Manning did it as good as
anybody we've ever had.

Speaker 6 (02:37:54):
I'm not using this as an excuse, but if you noticed,
we have not heard a ton from CJ the offseason.

Speaker 7 (02:38:02):
You know, the last quarterback who who did that and
it turned well for him as well. Think about a
Heisman Trophy winner that was up and down, up and
down and did about a million commercials and travel and
did all that, and then you didn't hear.

Speaker 8 (02:38:16):
Crap from him last year?

Speaker 6 (02:38:17):
Who was that?

Speaker 8 (02:38:18):
Baker? That's exactly right. Not saying it's a coincident.

Speaker 7 (02:38:21):
I mean, maybe it's coincidental, but there is something to
be said for the off season grind and get back
to work, working in silence and celebrating the silence.

Speaker 8 (02:38:29):
Mayfield did it.

Speaker 7 (02:38:30):
Mayfield's now become one of our better grinders and quarterbacks
in the league.

Speaker 8 (02:38:33):
He really has.

Speaker 11 (02:38:34):
And c J.

Speaker 6 (02:38:35):
Stroud.

Speaker 7 (02:38:36):
Sometimes you got to go back to what made your
day jobs special. The rest of the stuff will come.
Brady did that his whole career. You didn't see him
doing anything in the aufes and print ads, but you
didn't see him do much. It's a hard position to play,
and if you want to be great, then you've got
to give up stuff that makes you great, unfortunately, and
then you can get back to it. The great ones
are sacrificing stuff that they may want to do. You

(02:38:58):
can be good and you can be averaged not doing
the extra stuff. But the Peyton Mannings of the world
and the CJ. Strouds and those guys doing stuff. In
order to do something different, you got to do stuff
that you're not.

Speaker 6 (02:39:08):
Used to doing. Sean Salisbury a grinder and a ball knower,
that's for sure. Emmaniel Elmore Tripoli a grinder and the
glue guy, Dan Matthews.

Speaker 8 (02:39:18):
I don't know what the hell I am, but it
is the Matt Thomas Shows.

Speaker 6 (02:39:21):
Matthews, Hey, I try.

Speaker 8 (02:39:22):
I do what I can.

Speaker 6 (02:39:23):
Some days I live up to it, some days I
fall woefully short. But the Matt Thomas Show with Thross
is coming up next. We will talk to you in
sixty eight hours right here Sports Talk seven to ninety.
I have a great weekend, same, Bud.