Astros Swept By Athletics', Texans Suit-Up for Training Camp, MLB Trade Deadline Top Prospects, Steve Sparks Weekly Segment

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Sean Salisbury, Salisbury to usc true longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Dan matthewscuse, this is the Sewan Salisbury show.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Damn Matthews out one more day. He'll be back in
to mar Chris Cordy here with you, Shawn Salisbury here,
Triple E on the other side. And we got a
lot to get into, fellas. We have got MLB trade
deadline coming up this Thursday. Will the Astros make a move?
They're being rumored on a couple of different fronts. Astros

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on the field swept at home by the A's of Sacramento, Oakland,
Las Vegas, whatever city they're claiming right now. Asers was
four in a row. Good news is Maren lose yesterday.
Astros maintain a four game lead to AO West. But
those pesky Rangers have won six in a row, nine

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of their last ten. They've caught the Mariners in the standings,
so they're only four week four games back. Billy Wagner
ducked into the Baseball Hall of Fame and Joe Mixon
remained sidelined over at Texans camp. By the way, Texan's
putting on pads this morning, so getting to be a
little bit more of a football field. Sean, good Morninsy.
How are you, Mark.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
I'm doing great, Man, Good morning to you. I hope
you had a good weekend. It good week and except
marred by this and I know we're not on the
payroll for the Austras. Gordy, I really do that. I
hate to start Mondays like this. This is gonna be there.
This is gonna go one of two ways. This series
that you just saw this weekend is gonna do one
of two things. By the time this season's over. It

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is either going to be to the point where they
look back and say that was the that was the
one that set us back and we couldn't overcome it,
or it's gonna be the one regardless of four game lead,
those four I'm talking about the compartmentalized for just a series,
or it's going to be the one that kick started
them again and said, man, little humble pie was delivered
by a team in truth, we talk about the minor
league lineup. You know we've always kidded Oaklando another triple

(02:09):
A lineup. Well, that triple A lineup got some young players.
They aren't exactly Triple A. It may be a better
lineup with the bats in their hand right now than
the astros Is, and they proved it. I mean, you
talk about guys All Star. I mean they've got was
it Wilson, They've got kurtz Is off the charts. That kid,
he's a special player. And you know Rooker was an
All Star. They've got some players and they put it

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on them. And I guess in sports, Gordy, there's you know,
they always and never phrases are probably something we shouldn't
use because things change all the time. But I'll be
honest with you, I think it's almost inexcusable to have
that happen to I don't care who's plan, and it's
gonna it's gonna affect them wondering. It's either going to
be the detriment to their season and they're gonna look
back and say, we got our ass.

Speaker 6 (02:50):
They didn't just get beat.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
I know it only counts as one per game in
the lost column, but I rarely I'm on it this hard.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
They got their ass handed to them this series. It
was utter.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
This looked to me like your LSU Tigers, the Joe
Burrow year, playing against slippery Rock and get spot him forty. Okay,
that's even though they didn't play slippery Rock. You get
the point. They or Louisiana Monroe. You know what I'm saying.
It was just a This was a full blown overmatched

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beat down by the by the Oakland A's.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Well, let me ask you this, don't don't they always have
a series like this, August, Yes, like there's always a
big letdown series or you go, what the hell was right?

Speaker 7 (03:33):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (03:33):
It does, and then they either and then then they
get back in there. Now I understand resilience. I got
to see it again, and we've seen it all year
with this team. But this is another punch right to
the to the gut. This isn't the old flailing away
knockout shot where you get a lucky punch in.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
They put that, I mean they put it on them.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
They were They pounded and pounded and pounded, and they
jumped out on him all the time, punching him in
the gut, knocking the ball out of the ballpark. And
you know they going at one hundred and four miles
an hour out of the bullpens.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
Pretty good.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
They've got some Gordy, They've got some young star power.
That's impressive, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but it
was a this was a beatdown. Now the Astros, I know,
will respond and I know we're looking forward to the
Calvaries coming because there looks like they're going to get healthy.
It looks like it you had another setback now because
Walter's hurt. I mean, it just you can't win for losing,

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and so I was, I was, what's the word, not
just disappointed. It was when it got to three to zero,
I almost felt like, oh, they're gonna be and then
they went and hammered him again. I mean, it is,
this was a rough series. It's going to go one
of two ways. This isn't gonna be all yeah, we don't.
They're going to look back and say that was either
something we allowed to happen and it put us in

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a tail spin, or they're gonna do what the Astros
do every year. You're right, Gordion, have one of these
series like you got beat by who where how bad?
Or they're going to come back, get people healthy, and
it's going to be when they look back saying that
series against Oakland, even though we got our ass handed
to us, was a wake up call.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
I had to look it up because I seem to
remember this September eighth, twenty seventeen. September eighth, ninth, tenth,
and eleventh, the Astros got swept in a four game
series by the Oakland A's What year was that? Twenty seventeen.
Two months later they were holds it up the right
series trophy. So it just I every year has a

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moment like this. It's the ups and downs of a
one hundred and sixty two game season. You're gonna ride
it here, You're gonna ride a losing streak. It's just
always gonna happen. But it just always feels like John
late July, early August, somewhere around this time of year.
There's always that series that you look at and go,
the hell was that? And then you wake up and
you go, all right, let's put that behind us, let's

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flush it, let's move on.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
And it's up.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
It'll be important upon them, you know, we we one thing.
I do know we probably as fans media we love,
we'll celebrate a little longer and we will be in
despair a little longer. Players get over stuff quicker, you know,
wins and losses. They to do because they're moving on,
they got to play the next day, all those things.
But well, Gordy, let me ask you, what would be

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bothered more bothersome to you? Would it be more bothersome
for you to lose to the to the Tigers for
straight or you know a Yankees, Tigers, Dodgers team, or
would it be bothersome to you to lose to a
Rockies as that that type of team. Well, I'm not
comparing the Rockies of the Asda's got a lot more
young talent.

Speaker 6 (06:26):
But what what bugs you more as a fan?

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I think it says a little bit more about a
team like the A's that's been so bad all year
that they just they they'll go through a stretch where
not out of ten they get red hot, they look
like and they look at but then they go back
down in the feeling how they were, you know, like
it's it's those bad. And even go back to those
Asters teams of twenty eleven, twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, they

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were bad.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
They were the A's in the row.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
They'd have a week where they played WHOA, what's this team?
Where did that come from?

Speaker 5 (06:55):
So you think it's more of a compliment to the
A's than an indictment on the Astros.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I think so. I mean again, they've got uh what
the Lawrence Butler, guy, Brent Rooker, Shayline Lawyers. I mean,
these these are players. If they were on the Dodgers,
who would be going it's a great player right there.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
What's the what's the kid that he's got all that movement,
the batting, the kid who's fresh in the league?

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Is it Will?

Speaker 5 (07:16):
What's the Why am I losing my mind over the weekend? No?
I know who that is. I'm talking about Thay, No
the I'm talking about the infielder. What's team is in
the All Star Game?

Speaker 6 (07:30):
That guy?

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Yeah? Yeah, there you go that song too, that triple triple?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
I think you've got the Yeah?

Speaker 5 (07:40):
Why am I losing my mind? Hang on a second, Cordy,
I'm losing my mind. That was a we we just
put that in there to mix it in just for
for good measure. Why am I losing my mind? Who's
the kid that's got all the activity and that he
was in the he was in the All Star Game?

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Is you yes? Ursula?

Speaker 5 (08:01):
No, dude, No, it's gonna drive me nuts.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Man.

Speaker 6 (08:06):
You'll know it's going to drive you nuts.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
When I tell you too, you're gonna say, oh, okay,
my bad, Okay, Hey.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Well here's the thing. Every one of the every one
of their dudes was hitting. I mean it doesn't really matter.
I mean they every dude was a problem this weekend.
So uh, you know it just it's one thing to say.
Your starting pitching was not great, and it was not
great outside of Hunter Brown. Hunt Brown was good, although

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his pitch count got a little bit high. But your
bats didn't show up. You scored two runs, three runs,
one run, one run. I mean that they're not good enough.
This Asterisk team is not good enough to overcome that
to win games won and nothing. They're just they're not
going to do it.

Speaker 6 (08:49):
So how about your boy? Kurtz?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Though? And I was at the game Friday night. I
just I I think the week caught up to me
about middle of the game. I just I was with Buddy.
I'd dozed off and uh I woke up and yeah, dude,
it just hit I think his third home run.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
I was like, all right, I'm yeah, he's pretty. I'm
gonna go back to sleep here. Yeah. Lose fifteen to
three on Friday.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
Nicks for six six hits eight RBI's, four home runs,
a double, A pretty impressed game, Wilson.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
That's why what I said the shortstop gotcha.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
He is.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
I mean, they got a bunch of young studs. So
to finish your point, you're exactly right. This is I mean,
they're they're they It'd be nice if if Billy Bean
had if they said, you know, for them, here's a
couple hundred million dollars, go spend it. But they'll never
say that to them, right, But what ends up happening
is guys like Kurtz and Wilson and Rooker ended up
playing elsewhere when they're done. But you know, when they've

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had enough for when they hit the time when it's
gonna be big money.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
But they're just so impressive. He's hitting over three hundred.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
They got a bullpen, you know, that ramps it up
in a closer that throws at one hundred and four.
I mean, he's living at one hundred and two, boom
hundred and two, one hundred and three and his and
it's not just fastball.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
He's got some wicked stuff.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
And they and then they've got the Kurtz kid, who
right now is building to the point of he's becoming untouchable,
you know, one of those guys in their organization. Yet hell,
they may trade him for fifteen guys that are eventually
going to make.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
A lot less.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
So I don't know, Gordon, it just was bothersome. We
can make all the Okay, they're going to come round.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I'm with you.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
Every year this happens, and it happens to every team.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Then the Dodgers just get swept a couple of matter
of fact, two or three Series two going into the
All Star Breaker one and another one coming out of it.
So it does happen. It's just the look of it
looked as if the Astros were the seventy win team.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, and it feels like it. It is caught up
to them, this line up that they're running out there
with Turmel and Humble and Zach Short, you know, putting
in Cam Smith in there, who I think only has
two hits in the last week. You know, he's been struggling.
He's cooled off. And what's tough with that is it
was a whole article last week in the Athletic Channel.

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The Room wrote about how they're the Tony Clark is
literally telling him when he chose at the ballpark. Do
not go hit, go just go rest, go sit Like
they're they're trying to keep him fresh because he's playing
the most games ever played. But I think that's messing
with I think him not hitting in the cage's pregame
is messing with like the routine is. You know, you
get out of your routine and suddenly you're off.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Yeah, I uh.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
And for me, a young kid like that doesn't that
they can grind. They don't need a lot of time off.
I mean, you fight there. It's not you know, day
off in you're right, and sometimes we'll take you know,
take a day off batting practice. I get it, but
those guys the ball's not heavy and fresh legs. He'll
get back at it. But and he hasn't had a
chance to settle in at one, you know, in the

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order he's hitting seventh one day, eight, the next second,
the next, leading off, the next he's hitting what the
three and four? I mean, he's hitting about five different
slots this year or more so. Uh, they are, They're
gonna be fine. But this is reason if you're a fan,
to say, how in the world this happened and you're
still four games out in front. I mean, I don't
know how often they can stave this off. And you're right,

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maybe it is catching up to them. But supposedly the
Calvary's coming with some some at least.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
It looks that way.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yet on the other side, it looks like what paradus
is injury or might it's gonna take a little longer,
looks serious.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's not good. We'll get to some Dana Brown audio.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
But keep an eye on third basement in Arizona. I've
been saying it for and I know when I first
said it, I'm like, well, that seems like a pipe dream.
But I don't care if it's right or left handed.
Power that guy fills right in. And if this ends
up being a six week the two month injury, you're
gonna need that.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
Gordy.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
You may you may have to have something sting, but
that third baseman in Arizona, you you may have to
jump all in on Suarez and see if you can
bring him here.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
We got some some injury updates from Dana Brown yesterday.
We'll get to that one return. It's Shawn Salisbury, sure,
just getting started here on a Monday morning sports talks
of an hoey. This is Craig Busy.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Oh, you're listening to Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven
ninety it so you're home with the Stros.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
They play up to the good opponents, and sometimes they
play down to the lesser opponents. The boy did they
play down over the weekend to the Oakland A or
whatever the hell are? They just call them the A's now, right,
Like everything I see, they just rear them as the athletics,
and I'm like, you gotta put a city in front
of them.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Just start calling them Las Vegas. That's where they're headed.
So that's the way I look at it. Sacramento, Yeah,
they can call them that too. The A's is the
easy way, But you are, I mean, the frustration of
getting beat by dominated in a series, and I understand
why people.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
I wonder what the vibe of the city.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
I guess is, GORDI, is this one of those that
says people at the top say we've got no chance?
Or is this one that says this is normal? Like
you long season. Now it'll kick in. I guess we're
going to see how they respond in this series, right,
I guess you'll see. Now, when when do you start
to when is your concern kick in.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
I mean, the concern was coming out of this. You
know when Hunter Brown goes Saturday and you least Thursday, Friday,
and I felt like, all right, crap, all right, maybe
we win these next thing and you split the series.
You go to Sataraday and you feel good with Hunter
Brown on the mound. But Sean, I want to say,
it's what's the number out? I think it's seventeen straight
games the opponent has scored first on you. Now, yeah,

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it was like it's a franchise record.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Now, yeah, it might've it's either seventeen or eighteen games.
Sunday might have been eighteen, but you may be correct.
I know it's in the upper teens, pushing twenty because
I head into the weekend it was like fifteen or
sixteen and they and then well they had it happen
to them.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah fourth, Yeah, wait the hell up and find a
way to score a run.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Yes, because we've seen over the course of what if
you if you put together the last decade and when
the Asses have been on a pretty healthy run. Here,
if you put that together and say how many what's
their record when they score first, I'm sure we could
find it statistic. I'll bet it's overwhelming for them in
the win column. Overwhelming, and we can see what happens

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with them over the last and they've had some losing
streak going into the All Star break, have won some games,
but also had a couple losing skids coming out of it.
So and a lot of that has to do with
slow starts, and then you put pressure, obviously on the
starting pitching to grind, meaning the starting pitching does if
you come out and give up two home runs early,
now you're playing from behind, and then what does that
do for the guys at the plate. Maybe they're getting

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a little more impatient and not working their way through
pitches and getting good at bats, and before you know it,
it's five to nothing and Oakland's rolling, or Sacramento's rolling,
or Las Vegas rolling or somebody else. But they've had
a hard time coming out of the gate. It's like
they're getting started in inning three or four, and that
won't be good enough, especially when you play good teams.

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And you mentioned how they played down to competition. The
only good thing about that is in the playoffs, they're
all good teams, so you got that to look forward to.
But they it becomes a habit losing and winning. This
team's had a habit of winning. But you can't get
caught up and to say this didn't matter, not you,
But then they and I don't think they will, but
this did matter. It did matter. It's an a loud message.

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It doesn't matter. You have to show up. And I'm
just telling you this is not going to be a
six or seven game division win distance wise, it's not.
The Mariners and the Texas Rangers are going to hang around.
And you mentioned how well the Texas Rangers are starting
to play, and the pitching of Seattle just tells me
they're going to hang around some and they may may

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not be done themselves getting stuff done at the break.
I mean, we already saw the Yankees jump up and
grab McMahon over the weekend, and so this is going
to be a huge week in a lot of different
ways and reasons for reasons, and the asshles are going
to be I would hope right in the mix of
it to see where they're going to go next.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Real quick, on the we could remember Jacob Wilson's name,
I guess it even realized said watching the game the
series this weekend, he had a hand injury. He only
played Friday.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
I didn't play Thursday in place Alreday and play Sunday.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
And he's heading over three hundred eight right, and he
was out of the lineup. But he's got you know,
all that activity in the bullpen. I knew, and I said,
Will Say said, I'm I losing my mind.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
But you know sometimes I started on Sunday and I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
No, But he didn't get played right, And so they
they are, they're loaded with young players. But this is
a team now coming in next that you should not
have any trouble with.

Speaker 6 (17:17):
Yet. We'll see they will yep, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Nick Kurtz by the way, he hit the four home
runs on Friday night. Brian mctagger tweeted this first rook
MLB history of four homers in a single game. There
sean there have been twenty four homer games in MLB history.
There have been twenty four perfect games in history, so
it's like this that's even more of a rarity.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
Than a perfect game, which is crazy.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
And we've had it done twice in the last twelve months, haven't.
We didn't Suarez do it either earlier this year. A
late last year. You're right, I think he homered four times.
I don't know if it was the beginning of this
year or if it was last year. But in the
last twelve months we've had two guys home or four
times in a game, one a rookie and obviously won
a veteran. So unfortunately it happened against against the Astros.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
So let's see. So on this was on Friday. The
Astros had allowed the Yes, Friday, the lastor has allowed
the oppetition opposition to score the first round of the
game sixteen consecutive games. They did it again on Saturday.
That was seventeen. They did it again on Sunday. That
was eighteen eighteen consecutive games. You've allowed the other teams

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score first. You have not scored first since fourth of
July in a game. That's hard to fathom, isn't it
hard to fat? Literally turning the calendar at August right.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
You're you're in a chase mode the whole time.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
So we're you're talking about a month, which is which
is hard to stomach, but it is. You don't want
to get into this habit of thinking that you can just, oh,
take a deep breath because the other team's getting paid too,
And I'll tell you a few more of those, and
before you know it, now the pressure builds and you're
down to a one game lead with a team that's hot.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
And you're going the wrong way.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
And then they got to go on the road, you know,
after they deal with this, and there's a couple of
good teams that are playing on the road that they're
going to have to handle. So this is an important
if for nothing else, confidence and series, let alone in
the winning lost column to take care of a team
that you should dominate, especially after the wake up call
you got this past weekend.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
The that's, by the way, coming off winning a series,
taking two out of three against the Twins in Minnesota.
So Knots maybe filling themselves pretty good. They prior to that,
they won a series two out of three against the Reds.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
So and the Runs are playing damn good baseball right
now too.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
They've won four of their last six. The Washington Nationals
have some they maybe getting a bad team peaking at
the wrong time.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
Again, Great, just what we need to hear.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I do want to start getting into some of the
health updates, because we got a ton of them from
Dana Brown. On the pregame show yesterday. But I want
to start with this one, Sean, because the quote was
interesting and how he said it. Pay attention to this quote.
Dana Brown asked for an update on Jr. Don Alvarez.

Speaker 8 (19:59):
Here was a you mentioned You'ordon Alvarez. So is he
going to go down to Florida or go somewhere else
so he can see some life pitching here soon?

Speaker 9 (20:09):
Yeah, I mean we're still working through the details of that,
but it will. We're trying to make it a short
step wherever it is because we need them back as
soon as possible. And my thing is, I'll take seventy
five percent eurrodon Alvarez over. You know some of the
guys that we have. Now, those guys have, you know,
given us all they have. They've shown some grit, but
there comes a time when you got to get your

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big horses back in the building.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
So we need them.

Speaker 8 (20:34):
So it's a possibility with Jordon. You're saying, you're still
working through the details. He could go maybe see some
live pitching somewhere, uh and like in Florida at the complex,
or he could go on to rehab assignment. Is that
still a possibility for your Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
I mean, wherever he goes.

Speaker 9 (20:49):
If it's just to get the live pitching, that'll be quick,
and then maybe we'll get him in a few games
to you know, have him run and then get them
here as soon as possible.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
So they again, he's they're hoping to get and I'm
basically saying we're gonna get him. We're ramping up his
workload right now. Once we get through this hurdle, then
he's gonna go through some live hitting, and then he's
gonna play in a few rehab games. That's basically the
gist of what they said with you on. So I'm
thinking in my mind, all right, that's about two weeks.
But the quote he had in there Seawan the Comedy
was I'll take us seventy five percent yord On Alvarez

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over some of the guys we have now. And then
he qualifies. He goes, by the way, the guys here,
they're doing their best and all this, But that sentence
right there tells you was tired of watching freaking Cooper
Humble taking Pats and Zach short. We need yord On
freaking Alvarez back in this lineup.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
I swear to you the exact same thing.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
I was a one hundred percent and saw saw the
uh this, just saw some of the sound and saw
what he had said yesterday. I think somebody had posted
on our seven ninety side and the quote some stuff
some of the uh you know, the translation from the audio.
And when I saw that, Gordy as I'm getting ready

(21:59):
to sneeze.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Is in tight.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
Excuse me, thank you very much. That wasn't an intentional
pregnant pause. Excuse me, thank you. It is something Yeah,
I got exactly is two things. One was what you
just said is wow. If you're one of the other guys,
you're like, well, whoa, WHOA, how are you going to
qualify that? And I think there's a great respect and

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appreciation for what the guys have done, because that's also
when you're in a front officer, you're a manager, that's
a tribute to you. It's like taking a guy who's
not supposed to be a star and turning him into
a player if you take pride in that, of course,
but it's still not yourd on. So yes, the way
he made sure, yes, they've done a good job, but
it also told me that almost they feel like they've
hit the ceiling. With some of these other players, right,

(22:45):
and you're waiting, but even as bigger concern, Well, if
you want to, you're not at seventy five percent.

Speaker 6 (22:50):
Hasn't he been seventy five percent?

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
I and plea, here's what I'm going to tell you now,
do not bring him back in seventy five percent, because
we don't need another We got to shut him down
at least get it close. I know what he met
was jord On at seventy five percent is better than
most players when they're healthy.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
But let's make sure that when he comes back that
it's fully healthy, ready to go, and there's no setback.
And so that means that the images tell you he's
fully healthy and that he's pain free, and we'll see
how long that takes. And then we got to see
timing wise and what kind of player is when he
comes back, and how he's feeling it the last fifty
or so or whatever it gets to by the time

(23:27):
he gets back and line up. So I'm with you
that that whole phrase had a bunch of a bunch
of branches to it.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
How about a few of the updates on the other
walking injured as Brandon Walter went to the eel as
well on Friday. We'll get to that and much more
sewn Salzburg show more right.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
After this.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
And show it sells. We're showing little long here on

(24:33):
a Monday morning. It's a it's a wash your mouth
out type Monday morning. It's a let's get that bad
taste of out of her mouths with the a's let's
get back to our winning ways. He lose his frobbers
back on the mound tonight, so you feel good about
Frobber going. He's actually been more consistent lately than Hunter Browns.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Yes he has Hunter Brown's last but three or four
starts Gordy at least and maybe one mixed in there,
but have been in none hundred Brown like as far
as domination, you know what I'm saying, just in the
depth of his you know, getting into deep, but what
he is he had a four inning something or a
five couple five and straight starts.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
He is not going past five inning.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
There you go?

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Where's I mean? John all season was six seven, eight
innings every time he was going out there.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
And it's looked a little different now. I don't know
if that means he's tired or whatever it is. But
you know, you'll get a lot of pitchers going through
this as well, and he'll get through it. But it
has looked a little different because we're so used to
the dominance and you just pencil in six innings and
hopefully seven, but he's once five get there, they're making
changes and get into the bullpen. So hopefully as he
gets his legs and ways underneath him and they start

(25:40):
scoring more runs than a hunter, Brown gets back into
the act of dominating and getting it late.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
He wasn't bad Saturday. He won five of one run
ball and ninety eight pitches. I mean, you'll take that
from any of your starters. It's just it's not you know,
it was not a normal starter. Yeah, he had to
work for that one, right, and I when I put
it this way, Sean, he picked up his ninth win
of the season back on July second, and he's made
four starts since and the Asters have not gotten him

(26:09):
a win. Like it just feels like when he got
that ninth winning Colorado, You're like, oh, this is gonna
be a ten game winner. Grow on the All Star break, yep,
and he is still looking for win number ten.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yes, and it's been you know, with some no decisions,
but also just he just hasn't looked quite as dominant
and we normally see him grind his way, like you said,
a little deeper into games, and hopefully Fromber will take
care of that and get you deep into the seventh
inning today would be nice.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Fromber eleven and four on the season. In the month
of June he went four and oh with a one
to seventy four ERA, and so far in the month
of July two and oh with a two thirty seven ERA.
So Fromber has been your more steady pitcher here in
the last two months, more than Hunter Brown.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
And that's well, and that's a good thing. You run
him out there first anyway for a reason he's supposed
to be your ace. And what you said six and
on when his last six decisions, that's a good thing.
It's going to need to continue today. And uh, obviously,
if you're a betting man, which i am, this is
a to me, it feels Gordy like about as safe
a bet as there is from were going against Lord, Yeah, exactly,

(27:14):
our lord, b Lord.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
So I'm is that night game, Gordy yeah, night game,
and it's a three game series, right, yeah, okay, so yeah,
I think that I want to say it, but you
didn't hear it here. Well you did if you won, But.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
We just don't want to go to the ballpark tonight show.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
And go oh Lord, Yeah, yeah, that's those you want
to say old lord in a good way, but not
the old lord that you have lord in your head
goes yes, oh Lord, that's a five hundred footer, or
yeah he threw a no hitter. Yeah, that'd be great.
So but this feels like a pretty normal go by them.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
This is like the guy that went for the age yesterday,
a guy that started the year as a starter, or
he was a start. He starts the games earlier in
the year, then he went to the bullpen. He's basically
been a bullpen guy for the last two three months,
and now he's back in a starter role. Uh, I'm
gonna start tonight for the for the National So but
that's what the the ace through yesterday, that that dude

(28:09):
gin JT Gin, that guy had been a primarily reliever
all year long, gets a start last Tuesday against the Rangers,
goes five innings of one run ball yesterday has his
best outing of his career, six shutout innings against the Trust.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
Yes, he's not going back to the bullpen anytime him.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
It is like JT. We did get some more injury
updates from Dana Brown yesterday. Let's start with the good
Spencer Arraghetty Sean may Day, Uh a rehab start, I
want to say Corpus. The other day, Dana says Spencer
will make one more rehab start and if all goes well,
he will rejoin the big league club after that. So

(28:51):
we are we're within a week.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
So getting him quicker than Javier. Huh.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
So, yes, Ragedty's gonna be the first one back. It's
according day Brown. Then on Javier, he didn't really go
into you just said Javier will be quote shortly after him.
So we know Howvier's made a rehab start. Probably need
you know, probably maybe you put two more on him.
So if Arrogetty's at one more, maybe you do two
more rehab starts for for Javier. Let him continue to
stretch out a little bit and feel good.

Speaker 6 (29:18):
What do you think that's gonna look like when they're
both back starting?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Gordy?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
What is it?

Speaker 6 (29:21):
What happens now?

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I think they're both gonna have to build back, Like
I wouldn't expect six innings out of either, but you know,
maybe I guess if if Arragedy's back beforehand, I was
gonna say, maybe you could piggyback them almost and have
Arrogedtty starts, goes four innings and then Javier comes in
and pitches three behind him. But it doesn't. I mean,
it seems like there's gonna be a little bit of
time between both of them coming back.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
So fromber Brown, Arragetty, Javier and Gordon right now as
your five.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, because what Gusto, uh, Brandon walters out, Gusto got
to start Friday night. It wasn't great. Uh you still
have Jason Alexander hanging around here, but yeah, and Lents
mc colors is not coming out anytimes.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
But we that the kid you're going to start Argetti
and Javier both. The question is how many pitches you're
going to give him, where's the count and how deep
you're going to let him get into effective wise, So
we should expect in both of those games for the
most part, Gordy that you're probably thinking to yourself, what
eighty pitches to start out at? The most when they
come up here and you get four and a half,

(30:24):
four and two thirds to five innings and then get
to your bullpen when when both of those guys get
their first starter or two, Yeah, I would think that
would be a plus on neither one are starting, neither
one are going to be in a bullpen. I would
expect both of them to be in the starting rotation
right when they come back, wouldn't you, Gordy with this
depth and now with Walter especially.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, you really needed Here's the other thing you still
have TBAs for Tuesday and Wednesday this week. Uh. There
there is an interesting name to keep an eye on.
It's a guy that's in their Triple A system that
you could bring up. Miguel Uloa rang up seven bad
on Friday night and rute to another win for the

(31:03):
Space sugar Lands Space Cowboys. He has been awesome this year.
Do you pull the trigger now and bring him up
and give him a spot start here? Or do you say, nah,
you know what, keep that bun in the oven, let
him keep developing, and you know we'll throw out Jason
Alexander will throw out Gusta.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
However, hell of a point, Gordion okay, so, but if
you do bring him up, I don't know a lot
about him. I've heard of him, but I don't know
a lot about well, their top pitch yeah prospect, but
I've never I haven't seen him pitch. But I would
imagine as a top pitching prospect that he's doing what
the Ashlos do. They've developed him and he's close well
with that. If you bring him up and start him
in one of these TBAs and then all of a

(31:42):
sudden arragett he's in the rotation by next week, next weekend,
whatever you know, this coming weekend or a week from now, right,
get him another start and he's here and then shortly thereafter.
Is it wise boom, bring him up, bring him down?
Or is it better to save him, not make a move,
let him continue to work, knowing that those two are
on on their way.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
And that you have enough to salvage it.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Or do you kind of want to get a taste
of what he's all about and then willing to send
him back down just in case when those guys get healthy,
but give him a taste to what it's like up here.
Which one would you do if you were faced with
that decision?

Speaker 6 (32:16):
This week.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Well, the tough part is the stupid you know how
bout MOLB does the roster where it's like you got
to put them on the end, so then you got
to take somebody off the active roster and he designated
this guy for a sign then or whatever.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
So and no one would probably be short term anyway
with the guys that are coming. Or do you just
patient your way into waiting on Javier and Arraghetty and
assuming that those guys that he'll get more quality work
instead of spot work here or is it time to
let it rip? And since it's a TBA and you
know who you're playing that we still don't have exact
timeframe on Aarraghetty and Javier, although we feel like it's

(32:50):
within a certain region and close right.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, I think they could go with I mean, Jason
Alexander started Thursday night, so that would be he could
technically go tomorrow, and then Gus who started to go,
could go again on Wednesday, So you could just piece
it together that way, and then it would set up
for for Brown Gordon Valdez in Boston this coming weekend
and then in Miami that next series. Arraghetty could be

(33:14):
back for that series. So again that's how they could go.
But again it's all up to Dana Brown if you
want to bring up the and I just saw he
had a five walks and four innings. You low us.
So the seven strikeouts is great, only two earned runs
is good four innings, but mastering five walks too much,
it might not be ritten. So we'll see.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
It's one of those it's it's been the it's the
feast or famine with him right now, but apparently good
stuff and it's.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Just gonna be good to have back. And again, fingers crossed,
we don't want to ever hear the words set back
ever again. You know what he had a setback, you know,
just we'll just crumple up the piece of paper thrown
away at that point. But I was told you want
to at spring training. I remember talking to somebody there going, hey,
what do you think on on Hobvier is he gonna
be back? And somebody told me at the time, yeah,

(34:02):
I mean they'll be lucky if they get him back
this season.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
According when we talked about on the show, like at
the end all you know, when the season ended last year,
and then coming into that, he was a guy that
was to me during spring train was that he was
just going to be a street closed guy, I mean rehab.
But you're never going to see him in a uniform
this year, yeah, major league level. So this is an
incredibly pleasant surprise because I had already and I think
I said on the show, you're not seeing Javier in

(34:26):
twenty twenty five. Well, not only are you seeing him,
but you may see him in an important stretch run
when they definitely need him and with the Walter injury.
But you just got to make sure the timing's right.
But it's it's gone a lot faster, and I think
a lot of people that are even experts in the
business that cover it closely probably would have said the
same thing. So this is impressive, and he's pumping it
at ninety five. Let's see if he said he can

(34:48):
sustain that, because that's not usually where he lives, although
to hitters it feels like it because the way he
lives in the you know, up and out of the
strike zone, and he's got that heavy, heavy fastball upstairs.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
But I'm anxious to see him pitch.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
But I would have never I thought we were seeing
him at the best, maybe a postseason this year, but
I didn't have him til pegged until twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
May twenty first, twenty twenty four was the last time
we saw Christian Hoveer on the mountain for the Astros.
And I mean, it's the guy who's making twelve point
eight million year.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
He is.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
He's one of your guys you paid. Yes, all the
people that they don't pay, we love to talk about, Oh,
I don't pay this guy. Pay the man. They paid
the man. So he needs to come back. And look,
I'm not asking to be the no hitter guy, but
if he wants to be some shade of the no
hitter guy, we'll take that.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
And if his stuff's good and his velo's up and
his arm is you know, and they can stretch him out,
he is a great addition because if you get the
hobby aer that pitch, what was it two years ago,
Gordy in the postseason? Was it the two year ago
or was it the year before he got paid? I
can't believe it. Has it been three years? Twenty two postseason?
There was hit right and then he was and he
was lights out And here we are in twenty twenty five.

(35:52):
If you get that guy, this is a boost because
there was one point time Gordy when he was going good,
when he got paid that I think a lot of
us thought that he was a front line first or
second guy, and you talking about is he the ace?
That's exactly right, that's right because.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
We knew Verlander was getting up there Fromber was so
you know, Fromber's been so consistent this year, but much
of his career has been the up and down, up
and down roller coaster.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
We had Javier peg to be an ace before Hunter Brown,
yeah we did, and then you know his step last
year when Hunter Brown started slow and ever since then
has been pretty dominant. But Javier was supposed to be
that guy. Hopefully he gets that back.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Hey, this is like you know, making amidst the mid
season trades.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
Yes, like, well, and so it paid you.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
Dare I say so, admirers right now right, considering what
you're what you're lacking there, it'll be nice to see
what this team looks like when they're actually the band
aids are off and they're actually all in uniform.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Well, when we return, we'll stay in the er because
we've got some more injury. This is we do literally
eighteen segments of just injuries and everybody for the assholes
discuss the latest on Jeremy Paina. When we're gonna turn.

Speaker 10 (37:00):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues, and now you know.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
We found out Spencer Araghtty will make another rehab start.
If all goes well, he's expected to join the big
league clubs. That's coming in about a week. He said.
Christian Javier will be shortly after him. So again I'm
kind of putting the timeline of two weeks from now
Javier should be back. Jeremy Pagnya, here's what Dana Brown said.
He said, quote, Jeremy will be back here soon, could

(37:27):
be as early as August first. Here was Dana Brown
talking about Jeremy Paynha.

Speaker 8 (37:32):
With Jeremy Pagnia. Could we see him on this upcoming
road trip.

Speaker 9 (37:37):
Yes, I think he will be on this road trip
and at some point he will get in one of
these games here soon, could be as early as August first.

Speaker 8 (37:46):
So what's the next step for Paine. I know he's
been seeing some live pitching down in Florida. What's the
next step for him?

Speaker 9 (37:53):
Yeah, just to continue to get him some live pitching
and get him in some a few games. I think
we got to get him in a couple of games,
maybe two or three games, and then get them back here.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
So again could be as quickly as this Friday, could
be back with the big league club in Boston, he said,
on this next road trip. But they want to get
him in a few games. Okay, So we're starting the
series with the Nationals. I wouldn't be surprised, Sean if
we get an update later today it says Jeremy Page
has reporting either sugar Land or Corpus. He's gonna start
getting some games then.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
Yeah. And I think also Gordy whenever Dana Brown, I
think there's I think there is. I don't want to
say hidden me. I think there's meaning this. You know,
we interview him every week on here, and when Dana
Brown puts a date on it, to me, that solidifies
that this is close. Yes, because he didn't still stay vague.

(38:45):
He doesn't want to give you a time exactly right,
which means he's kind of giving it. When I hear
that it's almost that August first is the max away.
That's the way I look at it. And yet that's
what Saturday or Friday Friday, right Friday, the beginning of
the gust.

Speaker 6 (39:00):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
So to me, normally he would say if if it's like,
for instance, you asking about Jake Myers, you'd say he's rehabing,
getting better, it's going to be it's going to be
a little bit. And the same with you know paratus
that part. But when he says, you know what, he's close,
he could be back as August first, as quickly as
August first, that tells me they've had the conversations. There

(39:21):
is a at least there's that light that says August
first is the goal, right, So when he puts that
on it, it's a little less vague. So I honestly
think that you probably could prepare for him in Fenway Park.
I think that you possibly could prepare for him. So
that's a good thing. And then from then on we'll see.
But if in the next ten days you get Pania

(39:44):
and Javier and Arraghetty, that feels like three guys that
came over by the trade deadlinding.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
That's exactly right. That's huge. Yep.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
We mentioned that jord on the ramping up his workload,
whatever the hell that means, I mean, it's that's the
vagueness that's the one where he didn't say, look, I
think Jurdon's back.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
On Monday, and like he didn't, but he didn't say that,
so and which tells you it's still going to be
a minute.

Speaker 6 (40:10):
I wouldn't doubt him. He wouldn't. He won't be back
by Friday.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
He did say, though, wherever he goes next is Ford
asked him, is he going to Florida? Is he going there?
He said, wherever he goes, it's going to be quick.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
Yeah, temporary.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
We want him back because he goes even a seventy
five percent or on. I'm sorry, it's better than some
of these guys we got here now.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
Gordion to me, I've always questioned stuff like this, When
you get to a guy this good, right Jordon, when
he's right, I don't know, do you want to waste
it bats down there? Do you like when you think
he's right and he's got a live VP. A part
of me just wants to say, you know what, just
let's just roll.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well. The problem is earlier in the years and the
intensity players looked off, Yes, like for him to get
his timing right fair enough. He goes to triple A
and crushes two bombs and go all right, that's.

Speaker 6 (40:50):
It, game fair enough.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
And that's probably why Dana says whatever he goes it
will be temporary even if he doesn't crush bombs. As
long as that bat speeds there and when they sing
the ball come off exactly, then you get him back.
Because it's like me on the driving range. I don't
want to spend a lot of time on the driving range, Gordy,
because you put a stripe on her to send me
on the driving range.

Speaker 6 (41:09):
I'm a practice range all American. It's like false sense security.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
Oh look at that man, I'm hitting it anyway I want.
Then you get on the first team and it's like,
this doesn't quite look like the driving range. I don't
want to waste my good shots on the rage. Give
me five warm up swings and let's go play and
in a much bigger fashion and a much better player
that I don't think I need to see much because
the naked eye will tell you what you need to
see about Jordan, wouldn't you think? As long as he's

(41:32):
paying free absolutely two more real quick Brandon Walter.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
He says he thinks he'll be out maybe three weeks
or so, hopefully get him tossing a ball as soon
as this il like. They put him on what the
ten day fifteen Diel said, a fifteen day when he
hit that fifteen days, he expects he'll start throwing around
then and it'll be a three week build back up.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
So we're talking about last week of August heading into September.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, but that's good he put a timeline or Walter.
So I like it because we hear at elbow like,
oh God, as I.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
Thought that, oh, we're gonna wait and swelling is gonna
go down, they're gonna come back and tell us.

Speaker 6 (42:04):
We'll see you next year. I don't want to hear that.

Speaker 5 (42:06):
Hopefully, if they're saying that, then they don't think it's
especially serious.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Good news for Walter because he's been pitching well for you.
He's been a nice fine the last one here. Lance
McCullers says he's been dealing with that blister the last
couple of starts. They want to get him throwing again,
start getting him stretched out, quote hopefully get him back
in a few weeks. So again, not a definitive timeline there,
But again I don't know what's true what's not with Lance.

(42:29):
I don't know. All I know is this three weeks
ago in Dodger Stadium. He looked like old Lance mccollor.
So I got news for it. There was no blister.
Then he was a blister at Dodger Stadium, that's for sure.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
And yet getting him back in Gordian truth depending on
Howvier and Arragetty and when he comes back, meaning and Walter,
when Lance comes back, I'm curious to see, you know,
five six man rotation, which way they're going to go
and where you put him because the struggles over the
last three starts have been real too. Oh it's minimum two,

(43:04):
but the last three start have been back.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
If all these guys are back, I'm sorry, Lance, here,
bullpen your bullpen.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
I would agree one hundred percent, because then I can
you know, you get one at and with all that stuff,
you get some swing and miss and he strikes out
the side and then boom, we're in the sixth inning.
Get me somebody else right now. That may be, you know,
you've got to take out the feel good part of
it and got to put in what makes the team
feel good. And it may not be Lance mccolors as
a starter, depending on Howvier and Arraghetty's health and the

(43:30):
urgency of their return, and you're gonna get probably two
or three weeks Gordy, or two weeks of those guys,
or at least a couple starts, or at least one
of each if they're back on the time, Dana says,
you're gonna get at least a visual of what it
looks like before Lance comes back.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
I would imagine, yeah, no, no doubt. The last one
we got to get update on, and we're gonna tie
this into the next segment is sac paratus. Didn't sound good?
Good news? This trade deadline's Thursday. Well, the askers make
a move. We'll give you the latest on that coming.
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Speaker 2 (44:24):
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Speaker 3 (44:26):
Sean Salisbury, Salisbury, the USC trouvees, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury,
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Astros took it on the chin over the weekend and
getting swept at home by the Oakland A's. They've lost
four in a row. Rangers have won six in a row.
They have won nine to their last ten, and they
are now tied with the Mariners for second place in
the Al West. They are just four games behind. You
reminds me of Jurassic Park. Objects in the rear view

(45:02):
are closer than they appear. Also, Billy Wagener reducted into
the Baseball Hall of Fame. Sean, we got some updates,
injury updates. We were running through all of them, and
the one we did not touch on is perhaps the
most important with the looming trade deadline. And this was
Dana Brown yesterday on ESESOC paradis striply if you got that.
Let's hear Dana Brown on the injury diagnosis for ESOC Parades.

Speaker 9 (45:27):
It's a little bit more severe than we projected. And look, ultimately,
I think he's gonna get this second opinion. We get
him to get a second opinion, and we'll know more,
you know, probably in the next week, less than a
week I would I would say, but the fact that
it was a little bit more severe is it's more
painful to us, you know, and it's tough to be optimistic,

(45:52):
you know, when you know that it's a little bit
more severe. So but you know, hopefully the second opinion
clarifies a few things for us and then we can
move forward.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Sean, when have they ever had a second opinion that
told them what they wanted to hear?

Speaker 5 (46:07):
A second opinion is because you hated what you heard
the first time and you're getting one. And I've always
said this, like, now I understand in soft tissue with
it's his hammy right, in soft tissue that maybe images
or can be skewed depending on who's viewing them, because
like when I shred my knee, Gordy and the ligaments hanging,

(46:29):
the pictures tell you, dude, you're bone to bone and
the ligaments hanging.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
So it doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
You can get seven hundred opinions that they're going to look
at it, if they've got any kind of if if
they went to medical school, they're going to say that
that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Now handle the local clinic.

Speaker 6 (46:45):
I don't need that. Well, I'll take a picture of
it myself.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Roll.

Speaker 6 (46:47):
Yeah, this knee is screwed up. Okay, but what.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
Youah med not med spa, but med whatever it is,
you're going there and hey, what's going on? Well, my hand,
he hurts, how bad? Well it's ripped from the bone. Okay,
you probably need some time off, but these things, yeah,
rub some dirt on it and some ice and you'll
be good to go. Get in a plunge pool. When
he says it's tough to be optimistic and it's serious, Gordia,
I'm just going to tell you from as not a doctor,

(47:14):
but being around guys who've had it. First off, you
always worry about what if you come back too quick
on a hammy?

Speaker 6 (47:19):
It lingering. We hear them all the time.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
Secondly, when it comes to a hamstring and it's soft
tissue and Dana is saying they're going to get a
second in pin because the first one sucked, meaning the
news sucked, not the doctor, right. And when Dana says
it's hard to be optimistic when we it's more severe
than we thought, I could tell you what this isn't Gordy.

Speaker 6 (47:39):
This is not a hamstring.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
String.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
This is either a pull if it's serious, and that
takes a minute. And the worst one is if the hamstring,
if the is off the bone. You know what I'm
saying if it's separated to the point that would be
a hamstring tear, and if that's the case, you'd be
lucky to see him the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yeah, And I looked that up just to catch what's
you know, what's the most severe hamstring injury. Yeah, I'd
say it's completely off the bone. But he even said
full surgery and rehab and all that. It's four to
six month recovery.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Yeah. So either way, Esox have got back for your
next spring training. So that's that's the good news.

Speaker 6 (48:18):
Question is are you going to get him back in
September to play?

Speaker 1 (48:20):
And it basically said a hamstring strain is three to
four weeks, So basically on the on the good end
of this, if it's the best news they've ever gotten,
this will be back in a month and he'll be
back and ready to go. If it's the worst news
they ever gotten, he's just done for the rest of
the season and we'll see him next year.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
And put it this way, either way, football season will
have started with games on college football by the time
the guy's back in more than likely you will have
already passed by your weekend holiday with Labor Day.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
Yeah, before you see him.

Speaker 5 (48:48):
Because anytime somebody on a soft tissue calls it severe
and uh worse than you thought, and you're getting a
second opinion, Uh bummer for us paradis is, I just
don't see it being in time urgent, so we don't
keep asking that's one that's going to be on the
shelf from it, which does beg this question though, do
you go out and get the third base on the Suarez?

(49:10):
Are somebody else that you need to play third base
and supply some power?

Speaker 1 (49:13):
So that is the big one you Inineo Suarez of
the Arizona Diamondbacks. Now, one thing here Dana did say
on the trade deadline, he said, we were always looking
for a left handed bat and now possibly an infielder.
Suarez is right handed right, so it's that it doesn't
solve your left handed bat problem, but it does solve
your third base problem. The problem is, I was just

(49:35):
reading a story on CBS sports dot com last night.
They say Suarez remains the crown jewel of this trade
deadline with the Cubs, the Mariners, the Tigers, the Brewers,
the Reds, the Phillies, and the Astros all interested in
the slugger.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
Yes, so that means bidding war. And guess that means
it's gonna stick more than you can imagine that you
may not.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
And he's pushing away from the right.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
That's exactly right. And so listen, I'm to the point now, Gordy.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
I could care less if the power comes from one
side of the plate or the other. But you're also now,
if all those teams are interested in actually going after him,
that's a long line to stand in, which means you're
gonna have to pay a lot more than you would
have expected. And they also know that there's a little desperation,
not only from the injuries, but you lost your starting
third baseman and it's going to be for a minute.

(50:25):
So they're gonna hold him hostage. And if I'm Arizona,
I do the same thing. There is no question. I
always wonder who else is coming from there? Merrill, it
is what's going Zach Gallan. I mean, are they really
going to just just clean house and go fire sale
with some of their big time players. Suarez is more
than likely moving. They're going to take that off there.
Yet he keeps this up and hits close to fifty

(50:46):
home runs, which he's on pace to hit, it's gonna
cost you and it is a rental, so you're not
going to get him just to hopefully make the playoffs.
This is one that wants to get over the top
and there's a need, but there's also a long line
for him, which is going to raise the price.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Do you put any stock into the player and what
they say, because I'm just reading Chandler. Rome's got a
piece up and talking about when they were just in
Phoenix a week ago that jose L Twov came out
of the dugout. He said. He said Suarez stopped his
conversation with who he was talking with on the field,
walked over to hug his countryman and you know, say
what's up to him and hug him. And then Astro's

(51:20):
bench coach Omar Lopez, who managed the Venezuela national team,
also comes over. He says the trio remains close. Does
Suarez have any poll with the Diamondbacks office to go, Look, guys,
I know you're trading me, but I really want to
go to Houston.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
Oh, I think that there's as long as now what
I wouldn't let Goda. I'm trying to put myself in
the situation as a GM in that situation of the
person making the deal. If I'm in Arizona, one thing
I'm not doing. You're not going to dictate to me
where you go. If the deal is much better at
Yankee Stadium, We're going to Seattle, right, if it's much better.
But all things being equal, you've been good to our organization.

(51:58):
Of course you would try to accommodate. Plus, it gets
you out of the National League and into the American League.
So yeah, I would say, Plus, you know, and does
having people that you're familiar to. Familiarity is from the
player Suarez matter when you go to hang with a
couple of countrymen, communication feeling comfortable, the ballpark sets up
beautifully for him because he will do he should tatter

(52:19):
the left the Crawford boxes. So yeah, I do think
it matters. But when it gets right down to it,
of all of a sudden, the the Astros are offering
something that's three levels lower than the Mariners, well then
they're gonna say, uh, we love you, buddy, but we
got to get what's best for us.

Speaker 6 (52:34):
But yes, I do think.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
From the NBA, right, the NBA, we see this all
the time. I want to go to the Lakers, nowhere else.
Oh crap, man, now you've limited.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Us, right.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
I don't think player empowerment exists as much in baseball,
let's put it that way. But if you're Soarez, you
nudge the GM say, listen, if you're going to move me,
I wouldn't mind going to that team in the American
League and being with my countrymen in someplace I'm comfortable. Plus,
they need a third base when I can save my
position every day. But if I'm Arizona, I'm I'm not
trading you to a place that's two times you know,

(53:03):
it's twenty percent worse for us. In the end, they're
going to maximize it. And if all things being equal,
then I try to accommodate the player.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Taylor says, Dana Brown is not hitting. The fact they
are looking for a left handed bat stancy reiated reiterated Sunday.
But Suarez hits right handed and his strikeout prone problematic
for an offense that at full strength has no balance
at prides itself in putting the ball in play. He
does say, does Houston even have enough prospect capital to

(53:32):
compete with Suarez? A slew of other suitors that is
a legitimate question the big time.

Speaker 6 (53:37):
That is a great point, you know, it's just well,
they have them. The question is that you're going to
part with them.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
At least the good news is here. According to Chandler
of sources, they have at least reached out to the
Diamondbacks on Hey, what would a deal look like? What
would you be looking for?

Speaker 5 (53:51):
You just named a third of the league that wants
him though, So that's that's a that's a tough gig too,
considering what you're going to have to get into, and
some others may willing to make it more than a rental.
If he's worth the money that we think he's going
to be worth next year, this may just be a
two or three month thing.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Yeah, get Suarez on the phone with Anthony Davis, go
a d when you demanded a trade on New Orleans
that I only want to go to the Lakers. How'd you?
How'd you do that? If I put out there I
only want to go to Houston, I think that'll fly
in MLB.

Speaker 5 (54:17):
And Anthony Davis, well, I'm talented and I'm six eleven
as far as so, and I don't strike out other
than I but I only play in half the game.

Speaker 6 (54:24):
So that'd be nice.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Yeah, I don't know. I could take him here your
empowerment you want to hear MLB.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
Wantare let's discuss what about I know we got to
do the steak out, but at at seven thirty, let's
talk about what'd you what would you give.

Speaker 6 (54:37):
Up for him? How much?

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Exactly?

Speaker 6 (54:39):
So that's going to be the well, that'll be the tail.
We'll find out.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yeah, more Sean Salisbury Show coming up next the Houston Forts.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
Yeah, Sean Salisbury knows how to play the game because
he really played the game.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yeah, former prol QB right here.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
He actually has it on his name.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Take former pro right here.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Back to Sean on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 10 (55:11):
The Salisbury's takeouts Salsbury's takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Chewn Salisbury Show continue on here Sports Talk seven ninety
And one of the biggest things that kind of took
over the weekend as far as just hot storylines, Happy
Gilmore two hitting Netflix and Sean, it seems that the

(55:40):
overreaction all over social media is people either you loved it,
you liked it. So, Yeah, I had some pretty good
laughs in it, or you went out overboard said it
was the worst movie you've ever seen, and oh my god,
how dare them even disrespect the name of Happy Gilmore
to make a sequel of it?

Speaker 6 (55:59):
Right?

Speaker 5 (56:00):
And it's been thirty years, right, yeah, thirty years and
twenty nine years and in the well, I don't want
to say in the making, but to convince that Sandler
and those guys let's do this again. Well, I can
tell you I didn't see it normally. I jump out
in front of this and see him. First off, we
know what Adam brings to the table. If this was
uncut gems, we'd be talking about critical acclaim and an

(56:21):
incredible role, his role as we laugh and golf. We'd
see some stupid stuff in a good way and we
laugh and it's fun and I'm into golf. And I
didn't see it the first weekend on purpose. I want
to let it all settle. I want to and I'm
not going to judge it by somebody, because I've seen both.
Somebody said it's the worst movie they've ever seen. I
saw people that recognizable names that have said it, and
I've also seen so he said, I really enjoyed it. It

(56:43):
was a good movie. So I am going to go
see it this week, but I have not yet. I
always laugh, And what did you think? What I mean
when there's some stupid lines in in their stupid lines
in Step Brother, I mean, there's no stuff.

Speaker 6 (56:57):
That's what they do.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
It's because it hits the word comedy and getting all
the golfers involved.

Speaker 6 (57:02):
If it makes me laugh, it's not.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
Gonna win an Academy Award, folks, But that's not how
this was designed. But it is designed to print money
and to make you laugh, and it's gonna do both.
So I'm going in regardless.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (57:14):
I don't ever.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
It's like reading a book. I've had people I'm gonna
have it. I'll read book after book after book. If
somebody suggests it or if they don't, I'm gonna read it.
If I'm interested in the author, regardless, I'm gonna find out.
So and then you know, I always may. Maybe I'm
a little more mostly tied because I love Sandler and
but I also know that when I watched you know,
the Zohan, then that movie sucked ass and I love him,

(57:36):
but it did, but it still made money, so it
was horrible. Yet do you still find yourself. Man, this
is so dumb it's makes you laugh. Yet it's Happy Gilmore.
Our expectations on the first is like, damn, how do
you repeat that?

Speaker 6 (57:47):
Well?

Speaker 5 (57:48):
Find out so for some So I'm going in with
the clean slate, regardless of the relationship I have with
the guy who made the movie and who's in the
movie and Happy Gilmore. If it makes me laugh, I'm good. Okay,
it's a good two hours.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
It's a good balance. I mean, like it's I think
what happened was he had kids, right, and then he
started to make movies and go, you know what, I
want to make stuff that my kids can watch too.
So he did grown ups and they did grown ups too,
and it's like.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
It's always mattered to him, Gordy, I can tell you
that now.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
And there's some goofy kid humor in it, sure, but
there's some other stuff that's fun. And look, they just
didn't give them anything away, but they take some shots
to live golf tour, which I kind of think if
you're a true golf fan and you love Happy Gilmore
and all the great golfers, I think you kind of
get on board with and go, yeah, they should poke
fun at that because have By Gilmore was a member.

(58:36):
He was the rebel who became part of the PGA club.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
That's exactly right. And you know what, if you can't
take a joke, I mean it's okay. It is okay,
is it d Chambeau in the movie?

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
They got a ton of right kirklf he and he, Yeah,
a bunch of them. And I've heard some of them,
and I think the Scottie Scheffler not again it's supposed
to be hilarious, but that they buy into it. They
have some good stuff and Xander Shawfla's role, but you
know they're there's the subway commercial that's got this, the
happy Gilmrman, the shooter shooters doing with and Dishambo's in there.
It's okay to let wife's called comedy. It's okay, and

(59:11):
you should poke fun. They're a new player on the
market and they've been in it a couple of years
and you can have friends on both and still have
a good laugh at them. I got news for you.
Laugh all we want Deshambo's gonna be on the Ryder
Cup team. They're gonna mix the minutes the way it goes.
That's what's funny part of it? The movie pokes fun
at the Lift tour.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Yet they've got the live golfers in the movie making
fun of it.

Speaker 5 (59:30):
And those guys are having some fun and laughs. And
you know what, shouldn't you in that part of it?
If you can't laugh at yourself and have a little
bit of humor there, then because everybody knows it's the
elephant in the room.

Speaker 6 (59:39):
Everybody knows that. And plus you're gonna get these guys.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
On the Ryder Cup that that are against you know,
some guys saying well I don't want them back, and
some guys and then now your teammates, there's twelve. You
guys are gonna dig in and go play together. So
it's okay to have some humor. And it is Ryder
Cup tights. It's falling into perfect time for good humor,
good laughs and headed into football and golf season. All

(01:00:02):
the majors are over and getting those guys involved. Listen,
if it makes me laugh, I know I'm not going
for critically acclaimed best you know, supporting actor in a
big time drama.

Speaker 6 (01:00:13):
It's a comedy and it's gonna make us laugh.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
We know what we're gonna get and it's Sandler, So
you know you're gonna get some kids and some adults
making laughing at the humor we laugh at and talk
about on radio and podcasts every day.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
There is a in a sudding give bunch away. But
you find on the first five minutes John Daily lives
with his family, and somebody brought up they said, the
funniest thing that means they don't explain why John Daly
is living in his garage. And I thought about it
like that is pretty damn funny, Like you no context needed,
don't give me any backstory.

Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
And you don't need to because in truth we need
the long beard. And John's out smoking grits and heat
drinking pepsis and having a blast on the course is
and you know what, and John takes his trailer around
with his memorable and his outside the meshes everything that fits.
And if you're John Daily, guess what you're doing. Probably
you're laughing your assholes at it and having a good
time because don't take yourself too seriously. It's a movie
and it's flattery, okay, And we can picture John Day.

(01:01:04):
Like I said, I don't know the whole storyline, but
I can picture John like, yeah, man, for about two
years before I got on tour. I live with my family.
Yeah you get in line, dog who has it?

Speaker 6 (01:01:13):
So there you go?

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
So yeah it again. I liked it. I want even
watch it the second time because I saw so many
people could play and say it's the worst movie ever. Again.
If you liked Happy Gilmore of the original, here's this
other thing too, Sean. It's all the same people, Tim
Hurlehey that wrote the movie with Sandler, they wrote this
one together. It's the same producers, the same everybody. So

(01:01:34):
if you if you hate this movie, you're basically telling them, hey,
y'all suck, right. I must have not liked the first
one very much because it's all the same people, right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
And it's probably one of those Gordy us. Like you said,
you saw it twice. It's probably for some not a
sit in the middle of it kind of kind of
you either like Sandler and you love the silly humor
or you're like, okay, I'm out. But the fact and
I also think Gordy listen, I think there's a there's
a slew of people out there that are going to
criticize it no matter what, because it's another one. They

(01:02:03):
didn't want anybody to mess with it, and it makes
for good banter for them. You know, if you can
rip it, people take pride in like, oh, this didn't
fit my movie genre the way I want to see it.
It wasn't like the first one. Well, the first one
rarely is that if you're comparing it to you know,
I would imagine I've seen John Wicks about eight thousand times.
The fourth one's not the first one. It's a little different, okay,
but it's still it kills four thousand people instead of

(01:02:25):
just four hundred people.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
So any sequel that's better than the original.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
I'm going to tell you one that I thought was
in the category. I thought the Top Gun Maverick. I thought,
I thought I can make the argument that they were
that if you if you shoot showed the other one first,
I could say, well, this was pretty good too. Now,
obviously the storyline we know why the second one second,
So I thought that was Listen, I think all the
Mission Impossible is yeah, awesome, There's no question about it.

(01:02:51):
So yeah, I think there is a case when some
are but James Bonds no doubt, and those are just
they almost set apart in their own little vertical where
it's like all of them just they have different stories
and I love them so yes, that the whole franchise,
and in truth, I mean even though they're getting a
little out of hand now, I mean with a Fast
and the Furious and then we got them going to
space and doing all that's a little out of hand.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
But we still watch them.

Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
And when they keep it, you know why they keep
asking them to do it, because they're printing money and
they're keep making them.

Speaker 6 (01:03:17):
The guys keep hitting.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
So I'm in, Yeah, tell you what I'm in.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
You're going to Mars and all Mosk is in the
movie and he's going with you. Well, cool, I'm in.
Let's do it. So, yeah, I know what I'm getting
when I go into a Sandler comedy. Yeah, it makes
me laugh. And plus I love golf, so I can't
help but go. Want to see it, and I'll see
it more than once as well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Yeah again, it's whatever you think of it. I think
lower expectation, and that's for me when I go to
a movie. If I got low expectations, if it turns
out to being halfway decent, I go.

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
It's pretty good right now, movie, you better see this month, Gordon,
I tell you got to watch the first Nobody and
then you've got to go see the the f one.
But you got to go see the second Nobody that's
out and I'm just pev if you haven't seen. It
came out during COVID and it kind of got lost
in the shuffle. It was the most underrated, and I
thought the best movie of twenty twenty, I think is
when it came out. This next one. I can't wait

(01:04:06):
to see it. So that's another one coming up in August.
And yes, go see F one. I loot Brad Pitt
was spectacular in the movie.

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Let me return here on the Shawn Salisbury Show. We'll
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would a trade look like? What would you be willing
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Live after the Seawan Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
In a trade and by the way, Dana Brown was asked.
Robert Ford said, you know, is it something that you
would feel like you'd have to trade something from the
major league roster? And Dana all but said yes. Here
was his line, there's a good chance we would have
to trade from the major league roster to get a
deal done. So yeah, good and played. If you got triple.

Speaker 9 (01:06:29):
There's a good chance we may have to deal from
the major league roster because you can't exclude teams that
are also competing, so they may want another major league
player back, and so you know, you have to try
to touch all the bases, and you know, look, we'll
talk to every single team and try to get, you know,
more pieces to make this run. But you can't limit

(01:06:51):
yourself just to the teams that are not going to
make the postseason.

Speaker 6 (01:06:56):
I would ask you, Gordy with that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
Okay, So if it's giving up a guy on roster,
what's that look like who?

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Well, let's break it down. None of these There is
zero value in a Taylor, Turmel, Zach Short, Cooper Hummel.
All those guys are out.

Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
That's the value in that is if you like one,
but they're not the piece of the trade.

Speaker 6 (01:07:21):
They're a throw in.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Right. Then there's Chas McCormick, who is thirty years old,
batting two fifty four. I don't think there's any value
in him now. A couple of years ago, sure, coming
off the twenty two World Series where he's making the
catch up against the wall in Philadelphia and you go, hey,
decent bad. He's really good defensive.

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
Places not the deciding piece in your trade.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
He ain't. He ain't gonna be the centerpiece of a trade.
So will we really break it down that jord And
Alvarez is hurt and you're not moving, you're on period.
We know al Twova is not being moved. That's the
untouchable Jeremy Paine. Yet I think they're not moving because
of he's an all star. He's a centerpiece of short
that's that's that. So we really get down to it,

(01:08:01):
Victor Carrottin, he's not going anywhere's your backup catcher. Nobody
wants him. You really get down to it. Sean, who
would who would teams be calling about? Well, first and
foremost of the top of this camp.

Speaker 6 (01:08:11):
Smith right field, I think number one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
That's the number one guy.

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
Because you know Jordan and al too, they are untouchable
here right now with one being hurt and the other
being well, he's going to play his whole career here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
But I think with Dana having just made one of
the big trades that he's very proud of in trading
Kyle Tucker going in his last deal and getting Estak
Paratus Hayden was nesky. What was the big centerpiece of
that trade? It was prospect camp Smith who impressed us all.

(01:08:42):
So again, I I hate to use the word untouchable.
I think he's untouchable. I think you're not moving.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
Okay, what if I threw this name in, Just bear
with me. They got a catcher in the minor league's pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Good, yeah, Walker gannick Janek.

Speaker 6 (01:08:58):
He's not the kid from sam Houston, is he?

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
Okay, he's their number three prospect currently. Right then you
have Salazar who's been up and down. Right, I'm just
talking about his depth. I'm not talking about Yea and
Victor Krarttini, who right now I would agree, Who's back?

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
Do you trust more?

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
Right now? Carotenis are yiners? I'm talking about today? I
guess is there a chance that the catcher of the
future now becomes a piece that you would move.

Speaker 6 (01:09:26):
To instill?

Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
Put Kartini in the starting rotation, I mean starting spot
the rest of the season. If somebody says, oh, you
want this guy, well, I'm going to need that prospect,
that prospect and jin Or Diez and I'd be happy.
Or is it Victor Carrottini they want? So is a catcher?
Because I'm looking around, it's not out, it's Parade's hurt out.

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So you're not trained for him, especially if you're a
team that's chance to make the playoffs and you're just
kind of you're making lateral moves to see we need
this guy and the Astros need that guy.

Speaker 6 (01:09:57):
Jake Myers is hurt and he's not.

Speaker 5 (01:09:59):
Jake is good, but I don't I wonder if people
are still asking themselves, Gordy, is this that real for
the course of.

Speaker 6 (01:10:04):
Three or four years.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
So yeah, I don't think he has so parade us
out and it's gonna be a while.

Speaker 6 (01:10:09):
Payna to me.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
Is is I don't want to say untouchable, but I
don't think that. I don't think this is even in
the in the cars right now? Right Cam Smith has
got too much future and you went out and did
what you did. He was a piece that I don't
think you're moving in Jordan obviously, So what does it
get down to? How much trade value does a Christian
Walker have? And but to Arizona, it's not he just
left so Christian Walker in his mid thirties, right, Yeah,

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he's another guy in a trade possibly, So where do
you look, Gordy If it's a guy off the major
league roster and it's not one of those guys that
you know, Tremmel and Humble and the guys you had
mentioned go through and the pitching you got to be
very careful because the surplus of pitching you got to
still wait to keep get healthy I don't know is

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the catcher is one of these catchers involved in this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
The Yonder deal would be interesting because he's twenty six,
and yes, he's not having the best hitting season, but
I also go back and look at what he did
the past two seasons. Right, So you go somewhere else
for the next seven years one of the best thing catchers,
you'd be kicking yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:11:14):
That's the point you have to Then you got to
ask yourself. So but I'm saying here trying to figure out,
Gordy of the IF's somebody on your roster that would sting.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
I think it's Bryce Matthews. I think that's the one
that you do.

Speaker 6 (01:11:24):
And I am still not looking at you with.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
That versus what you would get Assuarez or something like that.

Speaker 6 (01:11:31):
Would you what if they just said.

Speaker 5 (01:11:35):
McCormick and Bryce Matthews for Eugenius Suarez?

Speaker 6 (01:11:39):
What would you do?

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
I think I'd say no, because the Drew Gilbert thing
still stings a little too much. You know, Dana had
just gotten here. What was his EMO when he got here?
Jim Crane said, Dana, we need to build back this
farm system. You've got the scout side. Let's build back
the farm. He started to build back the farm and
then immediately, well, you gotta get you and help this
pitching staff. Let's get him from the Mets. Let's give

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up Drew Gilbert. Ah, it's my top guy. We just
got we just got him. Well, let's let's pull the trigger.
And then it's compounded with the Kokuchie trade last year
where you give up Joey Lo Perffito, Jake Bloss. You know,
it's like low Perfito just gotten here. He kind of
became a fan favorite. Everybody liked him, and then he goes,
I don't know if I can keep doing this sea
on every trade. Thenne giving up my young prospect. I'm

(01:12:25):
trying to build this farm system back right, not keep
giving it away.

Speaker 5 (01:12:29):
But doesn't it feel and Dana just from the voice
that that they are going to be aggressive in this.
Don't you just get from the tone of the voice
that they're going to be aggressive?

Speaker 6 (01:12:37):
Gordy or what? Do you think there's a better chance
of having a wow factor move or no move.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
At all if Parades is out, you know, possibly the
rest of the season. I think you have to make
you have to add a third basement. But it's again
if there's nine suitors for Suarez right now, the price
of poker's too high. I can't I can't do.

Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
That because if it isn't bright And I keep thinking,
you know Bryce Matthews on the rosters, and I think
sub two hundred right now, and we know what kind
of potentially has in three home runs. First, Yeah, he's
he's gonna be a hell of a player. The question is,
and I almost feel like she's still a triple A guy,
but he is on the roster, So that's something you
have to look at. I just wonder if the astros.
I'll tell you, what, wouldn't you if you were a
team that needed wouldn't you inquire about the catcher position?

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (01:13:20):
I would at least ask.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
Right now, The question is, I mean, you're willing to
part with Corey Lee because of the I d is.
Are you willing to part with a yin or d
is because of Victor Carratine and or your minor league
where you say the kid's ready, yet there's really not
a lot of place to get him up here getting
any work in right, So I don't know, maybe that's
just maybe that's just far fetched because Jiner has got
you know, he really is a good player, But would

(01:13:43):
you entertain that if you thought that you really were
a World Series team and you wanted to rental like Suarez.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Now somebody brings up to me, he said, keep in mind,
data never said the major league player would be the.

Speaker 6 (01:13:53):
Key piece in this, that he'd be part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
So yeah, in other word, saying nobody, you know, not
off the table that we were trading. So what if
it was a Miguel you Lowe who right now is
one of your top pitching prospects, with you throw in
a Chas McCormick or something, you know what I mean? Like,
so it's not Chas isn't the centerpiece of the trade,
but he's a throw in.

Speaker 5 (01:14:15):
Yeah, because if you're going centerpiece of the trade, we
know those names, and some of those names are not moving,
and a couple of those names are hurt. So I
just think, like when you start to breaking down, if
it's the centerpiece, then you're you're exactly right, you're talking.
You're talking Matthews or somebody Jacob Melton.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
And again he's rehabbing right now. He's back in the minors,
so he's getting close to coming back or rejoining the
big leag club. But we didn't even it was such
a small sample size, Rightn't we really get to see
Jacob Melton do his thing?

Speaker 6 (01:14:45):
But it'd be trading for him on potential obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Here's the other part too, Seawan is Bryce Matthews. I
want to say the latest rankings they did was like
the eighty eighth prospect in baseball.

Speaker 6 (01:14:54):
Yeah, and he's your number one prospect, right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Other teams have multiple prospects on that list ahead of inside.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
So again, if if one of those teams calls Arizona,
Arizona's gonna go. We're making the best deal right with
with whoever? And I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:15:11):
Exactly right, And they've got some veterans to part with
if they really want to that would I mean, think
about the group we're talking about. If you're able to
go get them like a Zach Gowan or Assuarez, they've
got some people that they can go out and build
a farm system up again and add to their Arizona
because they're not far away. How it is help their
two years removed from a World Series, but they who

(01:15:31):
have bodies that they could go out and uh and
reload if they were on a fire sale because they've
got some veteran talent. They've just underachieved this year.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
When we come back showing. Jose Altuve had an interesting
quote about the trade deadline following yesterday's game. I'll tell
you what Altuve said coming up next.

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Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
And with that for the Seawan Salisbury show continues. Chandler Rome,
tweeting this out, said, I'm thinking about the guys we
have here, the guys that are showing up every day
to play the game. We're still in first place, so
we're gonna leave it up to the front office and
see our guys get healthy at some point and join
the club. So again I get al Tuvay. He is

(01:17:44):
the team guy. He is the guy that you know,
basically saying, look, give some credit to the guys that
are here. We built this thing. We got the first
place with the guys here, We'll see what the front
office does. But it almost sounds like to me from
that quote Sean, i'l two they.

Speaker 5 (01:17:59):
Saying take all what we got, and I think that
also is a sign of, you know, wanting to the
encouragement that comes from don't worry, guys, we got there.
We're going to handle this one way or the other.
The resilience that then the grit that they continue to
talk about, and Dane it makes a good point of
always stress and that's been that has been their calling card,
regardless of talent, which is pretty damn good. That Dane

(01:18:21):
has done a good job describing really who they are,
resilient and grit and that they just understand these moments
and this will be an important series after what happened
against the A's or got some talented young players. But yeah,
if and I think that that's human nature, Gordy, I know,
and being on teams in the NFL, then when the
trade dine deadline was coming around and names would be

(01:18:42):
would be like, uh mentioned, you know, you're almost trying
to keep it, hey man, we want you here. There's
this feeling of we'll take care of what's going on
in the building. But the thoughts by players in the
clubhouse at times or locker room can be a little
different from the way that the folks upstairs who signed
paycheck and make personnel decisions matter. And al Twove has

(01:19:03):
always been such a good guy as far as what
we got's good enough. Yet you know, if you can
enhance like anything, you know, it's not personal. You're just
trying to give you the best nine every single time.
And if they don't feel like you're getting the best nine,
and depending on the injuries, they're going to make a decision.
But I like the fact that al Tuove who doesn't
want to rally around the guys that are on the

(01:19:23):
team as opposed to not knowing the speculation and their
jobs not to speculate because they got enough work on
their hands. They got to go play baseball and try
to win, and after this four game losing streak against
the A's, they'd like that to change quickly. So I
love Al tuove always players that want to create that
camaraderie always air on the side of their players, right,
And I think that's important.

Speaker 6 (01:19:45):
But as we well know, the.

Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
Front office and mister Crane and Dana Brown are going
to make decisions based on what gives us the best
chance to win, not just now, without mortgaging a future
and dealing with as he told me, what may be
you know, a rental or that. They're in the business
for all of it if it's going to enhance and
give them a better chance to win. And when it
comes to these type of decisions, it's nothing personal. But

(01:20:07):
I do like that Al too. They rallies around his
guys because they're the ones you're going to bat with
right now. You can't count on anybody else until they're here.

Speaker 6 (01:20:14):
I do like that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Let's get Mark in here real quick and see what
he has to say. Mark, what's up man? Welcome in? Oh,
thank you?

Speaker 7 (01:20:23):
Really, I don't want to margage it anymore of the farm.
The thing that gripes me I think they would be
okay is if they would stop swinging it so many
very first pitches make the picture. Throw more pitches. It
gives you more opportunity to see a better pitch. And

(01:20:47):
I think that's what's wrong with our offense and we're
really hurting. It's from the pitch and prospect. I mean
the side of it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:55):
You say, too impatient at the plate exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:20:58):
They're swinging the first pitch and double play, double play,
double play pop up. You know they're not giving themselves
a chance to see very many pitches.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
I think that's the whole key. Well think about it. Yeah,
thanks for the call. Mark. The thing with that is
there sometimes the mo or the game playing against certain pitchers.
The game playing shown sometimes is this guy throw is
known to throw a lot of first pitch strikes. And
sometimes you'll have that game or that first inning where

(01:21:30):
it's base it bas it basit basis. Loaded nobody out
because you were aggressive, And I get it. When it
doesn't work out and you swing, it's the first pitch
pop up, and then next the guy sees two pitches
and it's a flyout, and the opposing picture you get.
You head out of the first inning and he's throwing
six pitches. You're like, well, it's not working up the
guy's pitch count. But again, sometimes that's the game plan.

Speaker 5 (01:21:51):
And Gordy, from my vantage point, I understand patients at
the plate. But if I'm a guy who loves fastballs
and I got a guy who likes the first fastball
strike to get ahead in count out, why wouldn't I
have to pitch that I can drive? I mean, I
get it for me. And maybe Mark's saying the same thing.
It's hunting the pitch you want, but it's this non
competitive strike and you're chasing it out of the zone.

(01:22:11):
I have zero problem with you ambush and pitches in
the zone that you love. Now, if all of a
sudden throws one of those in, you know, a big
old sweeper, and it's off the plate and you're waving
at it, it's like, okay, now we've got to be
more selected. Now you're down in the count. Now you're
chasing the whole time. I have never had a problem
with guys that ambush pitches that they love. Now, it

(01:22:32):
may end up in a pop up, and if it
goes out of the park, we love it. If it's
a base it. If you don't, then we want to
know why we're not more patient. He does make sense
for me. It's patient with pitches that are non competitive
or out of the strike zone to get ahead in
the count, because you know, I mean, if I'm a pitcher,
I'd like to get ahead in the count too. But
if it's a pitch I can go after that's somewhere
near the strike zone, I have no problem being aggressive

(01:22:53):
and going after it. Now, if a guy has walked
two players in a row, and you're up there chasing
balls out of the zone and not making it and
throw a strike, that's different. But you open up the game,
you open up in any and got throws your pipes.
You have fastball ninety five right down the You know what,
why wouldn't I hack If I'm a fastball hitter and
looking dead red and if you miss it and foul
it off, Oh well happens that. I have a problem

(01:23:14):
people hunting pitches they love, because when you're down oh
two in the strike in the count, that becomes a problem.
Now advantage obviously. So it's the the choosiness of the
pitch you're going after, not necessarily why you're going after it.
So aggressively, so early in the count. You gotta work
account if you can. But a pitch that's right down
the middle, or a pitch that's where you like it,

(01:23:34):
or or the you know from a pitcher you're used
to hidding. I don't have a problem ambushing pitches like that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Never have two hours down, two hours to go. We
still got plenty more we got to get into. The
Texans are going to be putting on pads today at practice.
We got more on the Astros and the trade deadline.
Plenty more we goes. Sean Salisbury Show returns right after.

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Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Join us right here at Sports Talk seven ninety. Sparky,
welcome in, man, Good to have you. Wish I wish
we had seen a little bit better baseball coming off
the weekend. I guess the good news Disaster is still
in first place, albeit getting swept in four games by
the A's. How are you, man, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Doing great, Gordy, how are you doing?

Speaker 5 (01:24:30):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Look I've been better, right, I mean, getting swept by
the A's. I think I fell asleep in my chair
for the Friday night game. They were getting beat so bad.
But again, you get humbled. I brought up to Shoan earlier, Steve,
it feels like every season they have a series like
this this time of year.

Speaker 11 (01:24:46):
Yeah, I remember twenty seventeen. It was the same Oakland
A's at that time that got them in a four
games sweep in September, and the Astros.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
Got hot right after that.

Speaker 11 (01:24:56):
So, you know, I was thinking, it's kind of good
that you something like this might happen before the trade
deadline too. Gives you a little bit more sense of
urgency going into that deadline.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
So we'll see.

Speaker 11 (01:25:07):
You know, everybody, everybody goes to it at certain times
of the season. Tigers and Dodgers going through it at
the same time as well.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
So the Astros just got to get more healthy.

Speaker 5 (01:25:18):
Hey, Steve, was there when you were pitching and playing
in Major League Baseball? Was there a time or did
it happen every year? I know in football it does
where we'd look back when the season was winding down
or over and say that game or those two weeks
or that series or that half changed us meaning and
I know it's along, but there are certain points in
a game or series you look back and say that

(01:25:41):
was either a springboard for us because we got going
after that, and it can be good or bad, or
that's what ended up taking us down because we never recovered.
Do you believe that happens or is this just another series?
Because I thought it was a bit alarming because they
didn't just get beat, they got hammered.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:25:59):
Well, going back to that a series back in twenty seventeen,
they got outscored by twenty six runs too. So the
way it happens sometimes is just circumstance. You know, you
don't use your leverage relievers in games you fall behind early.
I think that's one thing the Astros needs, just need
to get the lead.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
It's just been so.

Speaker 6 (01:26:16):
Long, eighteen straight eighteen straight.

Speaker 11 (01:26:20):
Yeah, yeah, so you know it falls on both sides
of the baseball in that regard, you know, you've got
to do a better job of coming out and getting
to that other starting pitcher, and in your starting pitcher
needs to do better too, and I think Robert Valdez
is the best place to start, and he goes tonight, Steve.

Speaker 6 (01:26:37):
Hall, hard is it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:38):
I mean, now with the injury to you, to your
Walter is one thing, but the severity which seems it's
going to be a little bit longer with paratus at
third base, you know, this is the old need or
do you draft on need or best player available? When
it comes to the NFL, so do you trade on
specific needs or best available in this situation third base

(01:26:59):
Now maybe something they need and it may be from
right handed power anyway, that that becomes a little more
urgent for you considering the Paradis injury.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
I do think so. Yeah. I mean, you've got to
fill those gaps.

Speaker 11 (01:27:12):
And there's expectations of guys starting to trickle in in
the month of August, and I think, I think every
week we're going to see somebody new come in and
fortify this lineup or the roster, whether it be from
the pitching side or the hitting side.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
But right now, and it just sounds like you parade,
this is gonna be.

Speaker 11 (01:27:28):
Out longer than they hoped, and I think they need
to fill that need.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
And if it's a left.

Speaker 11 (01:27:34):
Handed bat, you know, from that position, I think if
it's available, you know, and it's a pretty decent deal,
then you've got to go for it. One thing that
Dana said yesterday, I thought it's pretty interesting, And I've
always kind of thought this is when you're trying to
trade with somebody that's not in contention.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
You know, there's going to be a.

Speaker 11 (01:27:55):
Lot of bidders and you're gonna you're gonna have to
outbid somebody and it's gonna to really be painful.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
But if you're trading with somebody it's in contention.

Speaker 11 (01:28:06):
And Dana said that, you know what I mean, we
might be trading with somebody that's in contention.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
He mentioned that yesterday.

Speaker 11 (01:28:12):
I think you have way less chance of getting ripped off, say,
you know, having to try to outbid somebody, like you
can look at each other's rosters and say where do
you have surplus and where do you have surplus?

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Do we match up?

Speaker 11 (01:28:26):
And it's a more fair deal, you know, And it
might be from the major league roster, but it's more
fair because you've got this area covered a little bit
more than some other areas that the other team can
help you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
So I thought that was really important, and.

Speaker 11 (01:28:41):
I think that's if I was a general manager, that's
what I would be looking for that way, you know,
if you're going to keep your eye on the present,
Dana says this, right, I am the present and on
the future.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
I think that's the best way to do it. But
it's not. It's not always going to match up.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
Yeah, it's a great point. And again, you know, the
hope is that you know, if if Paradus does miss
the rest of the year, you know, if it is
just a hamstring injury, they he'll be back fully healthy,
ready to go for spring training and be healthy all
next year. The problem with that becomes, how do I
get through the rest of this year as a playoff
contender with third base? And so that's where a rental

(01:29:19):
makes most sense. And one of the names that's being
flawed out there is your Hineo Suarez, who's you know,
we know it's just crushing bombs out there in Phoenix.
But when I read the CBS Sports Report this morning,
Sparky has lists nine teams interested in and it's like, gosh,
you just I don't know if the Astroids have the
ammo to get into a biding war, you know, and look,

(01:29:40):
you talk about it's gonna hurt. I just I can't
see them training a guy like Cam Smith that they
worked so hard to get in the Kyle Tucker trading,
there's just so many guys you look up and down
the roster goes. It doesn't make sense to trade this guy.
So I just wonder if they even have the ammo
to pull off to make a big move.

Speaker 11 (01:29:55):
You know, yeah, I agree, and that would probably This
is just me and you know, it could come back
to buy, but I'm not I'm not interested in losing
a bunch of capital the way things are going right now.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
And I know it's just coincidence.

Speaker 12 (01:30:12):
But in a few of the Astros last trades, like
you're thinking of the Christian Basquez trade, that was William
or Reu and Manuel Valdez to get Verlander. You gave
up Brian Clifford and Drew Gilbert and then Wagner and low.

Speaker 11 (01:30:23):
Braffido to get Kakucie. What are those guys have in common?
They're all left handed. And I think it's just coincidence.
But the Astros, I've shuffled off a lot of guys
that may have been able to help them, you know,
and not have them in a position where.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Right is melting?

Speaker 11 (01:30:41):
Is melting going to be the answer, he's the only
guy that's left handed in the order that there's there's
a few more now and you're looking at Joseph Sullivan
and Bush the catcher in hi A so uh, but
they still they still need some balance in that lineup
and everybody else knows that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
So you're gonna have to give up more than you
want to.

Speaker 5 (01:31:03):
Astros broadcaster Steve Sparks was weekly visit at eight o'clock. Steve,
put yourself in position of the other teams, and you're
and you're looking for you know, some future, but some
pop and the rest of it. Would you would you
inquire about the catching position on this team?

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:31:20):
You wouldn't.

Speaker 11 (01:31:21):
No, No, I mean, would I inquire about it?

Speaker 5 (01:31:25):
Yeah? You know, you're you're you're the you're the opposing team.
You're not the Astros you're calling up? Yeah, what would
you would you say to everybody?

Speaker 11 (01:31:32):
I'm asking about everybody who's available, you know, and who
can help me? I mean, you've got to be a realist.
Who can help me?

Speaker 6 (01:31:40):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
You know?

Speaker 11 (01:31:42):
And if you're talking about some fringe guys and I'm
not going to name names, but talking about French guys,
they're not going to help guys.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Win the World Series.

Speaker 11 (01:31:51):
We're looking for if I'm another team, I'm looking for
guys that helped me win the World Series, especially if
it's another contender, Like you know, we're not playing games here,
We're not We're not playing on the fringe.

Speaker 6 (01:32:03):
Do you believe it's a wild factor trade, Steve.

Speaker 13 (01:32:08):
If the Astros make a deal, Yep, yeah, yeah, I
think I think it's gonna make a difference, you know,
when you're talking about so many guys, when you're talking
about Jordan, Jeremy Pan you coming back, Jake Myers coming back.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
We had we didn't get the update on Jake Myers yesterday.
We'll get a little bit more on that as soon
as we can.

Speaker 11 (01:32:28):
But uh, there's a lot of pictures and I for me,
you know, I'm still looking at a maybe a bullpen
arm and a left handed back, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
And I'm going out there.

Speaker 11 (01:32:38):
I know dan is and uh he's going to go
out there and get the best deal done for the Astros.
And one thing I do know is I don't think
the luxury tax threshold is going to make a big
difference at all. I mean, if it's going to mean
that the Astros have a better chance to win the
World Series.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
I think the Astros will certainly blow past that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
Yeah, I mean you're basically I mean what it's within
two millions, so it's almost like anybody you add, they're
gonna go over it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:05):
So well, especially if it's not a French player and
it's a difference. Masa be paid.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
Yeah, I think I think Jim Crane has shown he's
got a history of look we got we gotta go
big or go home. If we're gonna do this and
we're gonna make a big move, let's go make a
big move. But it's funny, Steve, you mentioned not getting
up date on Jake Myers because that's lot some people
tweeting about it, and I said, look, Robert Ford gets
eight minutes with Data Brown on the pregame on Sunday,
seventeen guys on the IL. I mean, it's like you

(01:33:30):
can't even get to everybody. But I was encouraging the
other thing go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
The other thing about that Gordy is part of that
gets cut up too.

Speaker 11 (01:33:38):
We just don't have it time on our pregame, so
it'll go on a podcast later.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
The rest of it, but some of it's cut up
to begin with, well, any.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
More injury, Steve will block off an hour of nightly
programming for you guys to get through all the players.

Speaker 6 (01:33:51):
Starting Alan from Mash. That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
But the good news is Steve at least with with
a lot of these guys. I mean, I look, you
you would ask me to spring training about Christian Javier,
I would have said, we're not going to see him
at twenty twenty. I just thought the vibes were gosh.
I mean, some of these injuries have just taken so
many guys so long to get back. But here we are,
steering there in the barrel. Dana basically says, what arrog
Getty one more rehab start and he's probably going to

(01:34:15):
be back. Javier is right behind him. So I mean,
this is a good thing. Man. You're starting to get
healthy at the right time, just in time for the
backstretch of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
Right. Louis Garcia is right behind him.

Speaker 11 (01:34:27):
I mean, these guys are I mean, if nothing else happens,
these guys are on track to come in and help
this team, and you know, to watch capacity and how
can they bounce back and all of those things we'll
just have to wait and see. But I'm saying positive
about you know what this team's been able.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
To do on the road lately.

Speaker 11 (01:34:45):
It gets good teams the entire season, They've played great
against the other first place teams.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
They just hit a little buff of the road right here.

Speaker 11 (01:34:53):
And I think before the trade deadline and before some
of these guys get hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
That's okay.

Speaker 11 (01:34:58):
I mean there's still a long way to go, and
I know you're trying to hold off these scenes and
it gets nerve wracking from time to time.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
But that's baseball, man.

Speaker 11 (01:35:06):
This is this is a this is a long haul
and to stay healthy to begin with, who's to say
that the other teams are going to stay healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
The Astros might be getting healthiest at just the right time.

Speaker 5 (01:35:16):
Hey, Steve, before we let you go back to this
past series, and not to make a big deal of it,
but it's four games and you've got to see it
up close, and there's some really good young players on
with the A's.

Speaker 6 (01:35:27):
There really is.

Speaker 5 (01:35:28):
But was there something that stuck out the most to
you that was I don't know if alarming is the
right word, but concerning in the four games, it's just like,
oh man, that that's that was a rock bottom series
for them?

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
What was it, you know, for.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Me, Sean and I said this.

Speaker 11 (01:35:44):
I said this, since the New York Mets came here
in the first home series of the season, the Astros
need balance in their lineup, you know, and when you
get a guy with a really good slider, you guys
see it. I mean, it just looks like they're chasing, chasing, chasing.
One of the big reasons, like some people probably talk
about early the Astros swinging counts, it's because they don't

(01:36:07):
want to see.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
The slider with two strikes, right.

Speaker 11 (01:36:11):
And I remember Griffin Canning that first series when the
Mets came here. He just absolutely dominated the Astros. And
I just feel like, you know, if they had three
guys in there, you know, Jordan included, they can go
in there and get guys away from getting locked in
with that breaking ball. And when you're seeing the same

(01:36:32):
side guys over and over and over, you get locked in.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
As a pitcher.

Speaker 11 (01:36:37):
On where you need to focus in where that tunnel is,
and you're throwing it over and over, it's more easy
to locate it. And I just think when you get
a lefty in there, you're trying to back door it.
You're trying to get it to the back foot. You know,
it's not as clear as where you need to throw it.
I don't think you get in the groove with that
pitch the way some of these rioties are against this
Astro's lineup. So for me, that's been going on all

(01:36:58):
year long, and we saw it again against the Eights.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
He is Steve Sparks. Of course you can hear right
here in your home for Astros, Baseball, Sports Talk seven
ninety and Nationals coming in. Steve. They they took two
out of three against the Twins. I said, the only
thing we don't want to say tonight is oh Lord.
We want to go, Oh Lord is on the mount
for the nets.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
Yeah, that's right, Brad, Lord's going to be. But you
know what, there's another Lord pitching for the and that's Farmer.
Who's to know?

Speaker 11 (01:37:29):
And if last thirteen stars, that's so that's the Almighty
right there?

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
Right Lord?

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
Yeah? Yeah? If you say Lord Almighty, it means Fromber's
doing something good tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
I know.

Speaker 5 (01:37:38):
If he happens to walk on water, we're in real trouble,
aren't we. There you go, Steve, great stuff, man. We
appreciate you and h By this time next week we'll
have some I would imagine, some good stuff to talk about,
trade deadline and hopefully health as well.

Speaker 6 (01:37:52):
Brother, We appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
You're very welcome. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 6 (01:37:56):
You got it.

Speaker 5 (01:37:56):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
Steve Sparks's one and only Steve Sparks love it. You
don't want to be saying, oh lord.

Speaker 6 (01:38:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:38:02):
And he's got such a great perspect he sees it
every day and he played it so long. It's like
a four game These happen, but it's always the next series.

Speaker 6 (01:38:09):
What are you doing next? And I think that's h
and heading to the trade.

Speaker 5 (01:38:12):
Deadline in the sense of urgency one way or the
other is going to kick in.

Speaker 6 (01:38:16):
No doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
Yeah, And let's you know, look, if there's a trade
to be made out there, they're not good. They're not
going to leave any stone unturned. That's right. Dana Brown
will make every call he needs to to see what
they could do to upgrade this club. My return here
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Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
Back to Sean Salisbury, the big.

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
You know, SEC media days and a little Orange beach.
You got to come back ten.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
He hit some long days out there.

Speaker 6 (01:41:26):
Oh I know, I can't give.

Speaker 5 (01:41:27):
You what I'm Kiddingham, I said, oh'll do what a
country of you?

Speaker 6 (01:41:30):
Just fat cat.

Speaker 5 (01:41:31):
And the truth the matter is he's chasing around people
all day long and needed that vacation to have him
back tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
Walking around the All Star Game. And I know Dan
worked in Atlanta for a decade, but I mean you'd
have thought local celebrity.

Speaker 5 (01:41:44):
Yeah he's dah oh dy big dy in the house. Yeah, yeah,
exactly good and deserve that vacation. Be back at it
and then and for all of us now it's football
kicks in with baseball. Now we're on staying on that grind.
As Dane always talks about his team, we're staying on
it too. It'll be good to get Dan back. I
appreciate you taking the time to come in, brother, with

(01:42:05):
all your obligations.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
I know this. We're coming, Astros fans, You're just going
to give you that on Wednesday, Damn right. There was
a name that was floated out there.

Speaker 5 (01:42:15):
Just don't lose three to two in a row before
you say we're kin. Yeah, he gets swept by the Nats.
We're not coming. I can tell you this I'm feeling.
I'm feeling from er Valdez. I feel like that's about
as big a guarantee in sports as.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
Stop stop the bleeding please you Fromber. There was a
Nanos float out there during the off season, Sean that
the Astros are very interested and in fact I think
had a trade in place but ultimately did not happen.
And it is the third basement. His name is Nolan Arenado.
He was at the center of multiple trade talks during

(01:42:48):
the off season the Cardinals. There's talk that they could
potentially move him at this trade deadline. The problem is
they will once again have to get approval from our
who has a full no trade cause and can veto
any trade, which he Cordner reports did so after the
Cardinals and Astros had agreed to a trade back in December.

(01:43:12):
The only issue with this move and look again fits
whole round peg fitz hole whatever here with the opening
at third base with parades out. But the only issue
here Sean is he's got two years remaining forty two
million dollars remaining on the contract.

Speaker 5 (01:43:28):
Right and let me ask you this, Cordy, what would
make him if he didn't want to come here post
Bregman pre.

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:43:37):
This was December post Bregman pre paratus, right, yeah, remember
when it was talked about before you had made and
Bregman was on, you know, still going through it with
Scott Boris. But if you had a pretty good idea
he wasn't going to be here, and Aaron Otto decided,
well that's not where I want to go, and they
couldn't pull the trade off regardless of the overall reason.
One is the money situation. Do you really want to
get into that? Because I as much respect and you

(01:43:58):
know he's a guy who people are gonna mention Hall
of Fame, but he's like, what holla, very good as
we are discuss during a break. So, but the money
that comes with it, is this the one that gets
you over the top.

Speaker 6 (01:44:09):
That's what you got to ask.

Speaker 5 (01:44:10):
And him knowing Paratus is eventually coming back, does he
want to be a part of this. I mean it's
a little more muddied now than it was even before
the last time, you get what I'm saying, because a
little more open when you knew Bregnan was going to
be gone and you had to pull off the trade
for for Paradus. So my question is what would if
you're him? What would encourage you now? Just that you're

(01:44:32):
in the hunt with a chance to make the playoffs
and be of a World Series team, which he does
not have a World Series ring to his resume yet.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
Yeah, people I talked to it said it wasn't like
they talked to him behind and behind the scenes. So
it wasn't so much that it was going to Houston.
It was that they didn't talk to him about beforehand, gotcha.
So it was more him trying to prove a point. Gone. No, no, no, No,
I have a full note trade clause in my contract
for a reason. You got to come talk to me, right,

(01:44:59):
you come get the That's why I got the clause,
and that's what he was angry about, and even said
after that fell through, Hey, I'm still open to revisiting
the trade to the Astros. Let's talk about it. But
at that point the Astros then made the trade and
got Paradies and it was that was done.

Speaker 5 (01:45:13):
But both and both of these are the prizes at
third base, right, Suarez and Aeronauta. If you want to
call them prizes, you get my point. Take them both,
and let's just throw the money out for a second.
Let's say both were under control for a year after this.
Fair enough, although Souarez is what he's a rental and
two years more for for uh yes, for Nolan Arnatto Aeronatto,

(01:45:40):
all things being equal other than the money, let's say
the both, who would you take and then you're giving
up the same guy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
Let's just for the hell of it, who do you want? Well,
looks they're the same age, they're both thirty four years old.
The difference is and I get batting averages and everything.
But Arnatto went from batt in two seventy two last
year to two thirty five this year, and then look
at the pop Arnaud has got ten homers this year.

Speaker 5 (01:46:04):
It's a pretty easy decision, right, Yet what offsets it
for both is one's worth more money than you want
to pay or that's what he's wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
That's exactly what's perfectly with Isa coming back next year.

Speaker 6 (01:46:15):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 5 (01:46:16):
Yet it is a rental and you're gonna have to
part with somebody that you don't want to part with.
So the advantages and disadvantage both more production Suarez, uh,
but less love for him and you know that he's
not under control pass this year and you'd have to
pay him a lot because he's pushing. He's going to
push fifty home runs. And then the other side of
it is you're going to have to give up something,

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probably more for Suarez I would think in a rental
than you would And then you're taking on a lot
of money from Ernado even though he's had a great career,
his best baseball's behind him. Yes, so that's decision you
have to make. And this is from CBS Sports. They
say despite their need for third basement following Paradis.

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
Recent injury. Sources have indicated the Astros do not appear
inclined to make another bid for Ronado again. I just
think the year he's having and the money that's due there,
we're good man. We'll keep plugging in Dubon or whoever.

Speaker 5 (01:47:07):
And in truth, Gordy, if you couldn't or didn't want to,
or the ask was too big, Big Dubon can hold
third base down until you get to if that's what
you need I'm talking about, If that's what the way
you wanted to go. He can hold third base down
if you have to, the problem is you have to
hold third and shortstop down, and he's the guy who can.
He can do both right now. But with paying you

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out now, hopefully you get paying you back soon, which
would allow you to use his versatility to go there.

Speaker 6 (01:47:33):
If in fact you didn't pull anything.

Speaker 5 (01:47:34):
Off, you're still going to get a guy who who,
even though he may be playing five different positions, is
in the lineup quite often in Dubon. So it's not
one of those desperate If we don't get one of
those guys, were screwed. But it appears that that injury
is going to be a little bit longer. So whoever
you get or if you play somebody in house, they're
going to be there a minute and Dubon can give
you that versatility. The question is are you looking for

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that extra and the extra in truth and the Souarez.
It's a bummer that you only get him for a
half a year and then you'd have to go in
with a lot more money, even though it'll be a
lot different money at mid thirties and it is in
late twenties, right, So that's your advantage. But you're getting
some pop that you don't have at third base, and
quite frankly that very few have this year because he's

(01:48:19):
going to hit fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
When we return here on the Sewann Salisbury Show, we'll
get some of you guys in the full lines. I
want to talk about the astros and the trade deadline.
Also when you switch gears at some point, talk about
something that might be a little bit concerning with the
Houston Texans. We'll get to that as well. Sean Salisbury
Show rolls on after this for The Sean Salisbury Show
continued and Breggi hitting a big Breggi bomb yesterday to

(01:48:45):
lead the Red Sox to four to three win over
the Dodgers and a series victory over the Dodgers kind
of sucks. I kept thinking, look at the schedule. I'm like,
ah Asker was gonna go to Fenway this weekend. They'll
miss Greggy. No, Breggy is back, and Breggie's doing Breggy.

Speaker 5 (01:48:59):
Things, know much, but I do pay attention to that roster,
and I knew he was back, and it was nice
to get him going and get back into the to
the flow of things and having him there, and they're
trying to make their run. I'm acious to see what
they do. Is Duran available? Is a bray you available?
Are they in a We're still got a chance to

(01:49:20):
win this thing because they are in a in a
wild card race. They're in it, The Mariners are in it,
the Yankees are in it, obviously, the Rangers are in
There's four or five teams that are hovering within a
couple of games of each other, and in paying attention
to that, Obviously, getting Bregnant back is a big part
for them and makes them more versatile. And I'm curious
to see what they're gonna do at the trade deadline

(01:49:42):
concerning a couple of their players. But they've got a
lot of young players that have that have opened some
space for you to move some guys in.

Speaker 6 (01:49:48):
Duran's a name that keeps getting mentioned and a guy
with energy.

Speaker 5 (01:49:52):
So I'm anxious to see if the Red Sox how
deep into the cellar buy their in. But Bregman obviously
not going anywhere, and he'll have an out clause at
the end of this year. And where will that take them?
We'll keep him in a place he'll put up numbers
in Fenway. Maybe it's a place to play because they
can pay him as well.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
Yeah, and this this Roman Anthony kid is uh, he's
been pretty good for them so far.

Speaker 6 (01:50:12):
Skilled, he got some young pitching and some.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
Of the off hitter for them. Now yeah, uh, Now
I'm excited. We're gonna be up there for the series
this weekend. I've talked to a ton of Astros fans
that are all making the trip up there. I guess
when you looked at the schedule and with yeah, Boston
in late July could be great weather, get to see Bregman.
You know, I think there's a lot of people playing
to make this trip.

Speaker 5 (01:50:32):
So yeah, I've actually been considering and have been for
a couple of weeks of popping on in there and
going you know, Friday, Saturday and coming back. Just can't
leave my dogs long, but popping in there, going in,
watching a couple of games and getting back because it'll
be a fun series and a huge series. But also, yeah,
and you say your wife hasn't seen that ballpark yet, Gordy, No, oh,

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she's gonna go in. You have though obviously you guys
going in going from the home plate side, so she
can walk righter that one tour. But not a game, right,
so you're gonna have a blast all over the place.

Speaker 1 (01:51:04):
There's been football stadiums that I've been in and seen,
but not for a game.

Speaker 5 (01:51:08):
So it's like, yeah, so do you consider that knocking
it off your list?

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:51:12):
I don't either. I think you have to watch a
game for it to be part of your list.

Speaker 1 (01:51:15):
Right. We were years ago. We were driving to Disney
and we stopped off in Gainesville see a friend, and
then we went to Ben Hill Griffin Stadium and at
that time they had it open, like there were students running,
you know, laps up and down the stairs and all that.
You can't do that now, but uh, but we got
in there, walked all around. But when people say have
you ever been to the swamp, I say no, I've

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never seen a game in the swamp. I've been all
around the stadium.

Speaker 5 (01:51:39):
Absolutely, So, hey, you guys are gonna have a blast,
man this end of the You're gonna get good weather.
More than likely it's gonna be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
Well, it's even more incumbent. They take care of business
against these now, no question. I mean, look, I don't
want to go as far as to say sweep, but
two out of three, guys, let's do it. Then stink
take two out of three, get back into the winning ways.
Because in that way you go drop a series in
Boston this weekend. It's not the end of the world.
You're not going, oh my god, it's panic button if
you get swept by the Nats and then go lose

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a series of the Red Sox.

Speaker 5 (01:52:08):
Right, and the Red Sox do have the ability and
pitching to make it very difficult on you. And as
you said, getting they get some good young town. But
getting Bregman back obviously helps them, and he'll have something
to you know, obviously this will matter to him even
a little bit more because.

Speaker 6 (01:52:24):
Of who's coming to town. So you're gonna have a blast.

Speaker 5 (01:52:26):
But this series here, well, I mean, I don't know
when we'd say, hey, the series against the Washington's huge,
but in truth, it really is. You go in there,
especially coming out of the one you just saw against Oakland,
who didn't just put it to him, They put it
to him and with authority. So but the resilience of
this team always says, bounced back tonight feels like the

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safest pick on the planet should be the Astros, right
c J Abrams.

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
So that kid is he's pretty damn good. Hit a
leadoff homer and stole three bases. I think he was
like the first player to do that in like forty
years or something crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:53:00):
So we're finding guys like that all over the league
that coming like, man, where'd this kid come from? And
all of a sudden he's in the lineup playing every day.
We see it on a lot of teams, and we've
seen it on this team hence the right fielder and
a few others.

Speaker 6 (01:53:10):
So this is a huge week in a lot of
different ways.

Speaker 5 (01:53:14):
How they're going forward, who's going to be and you
know what, by that Boston series, Gordy, somebody on this
roster more than likely won't be a part of it.

Speaker 6 (01:53:20):
The question is how big will it be?

Speaker 5 (01:53:22):
And does it go down to Sugar Sugarland or down
to Corpus Christy and then getting guys healthy. But this
is a monster series leading into a road trip.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
Yeah, and that'll be interesting. I mean again how this
series plays out. But Good News Disasters is an off
day Thursday, So any trades or moves that are made,
you know, they're getting on that plane Thursday and head
to Boston. Hey, hey, Bryce, come let me talk to
you real quick. Right, Oh, what's going on?

Speaker 6 (01:53:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:53:45):
What move did we make? H Bryce is sitting out
the Wednesday game? Okay, no, let's go.

Speaker 6 (01:53:52):
On there you go.

Speaker 5 (01:53:53):
Had him in the lineup, but he were scratched.

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
I love.

Speaker 6 (01:53:56):
So you don't want to hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
Hits at five Central Thursday, so the A Team will
be on live and and they've been our show that's
been on when trades have been made and stuff. But
I remember, gosh, a few years ago, they were just
coming on the air and the trade deadline passed and
we thought, oh, Estros didn't make any more moves, and
it was at like three oh five it came out
that they had made the trade for Zach RANKI.

Speaker 6 (01:54:17):
Right, it was like and five prospects right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
All the red alert bells and whistles and everything. So
that's it's always fun going up to that last those
last minutes to see if a deal gets done.

Speaker 6 (01:54:28):
You know what I want.

Speaker 5 (01:54:29):
I want a deal to get done Wednesday at nine
thirty three, while Dana's.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
On the air with us, or you're calling Dana, he's
not answering. Yes, I think that's when you go.

Speaker 5 (01:54:39):
Send me, sends me a tech, sends me a text,
says Sean him in the middle of a big deal,
could you guys postpone this for a while. We absolutely hell,
it may not be a bad ideal, although I'd like
to hear then we did if he put it this way,
If he says he's moving it to Thursday for us,
then then we'll know that Wednesday is a big deal.
So either way, we look forward to our conversation with him,
just like we do Steve Parks every week.

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
Yeah, all right, Well, return, we're gonna switch gears. Talk
a little bit on the NFL. The Madden ninety nine
list has come out. We'll touch on that coming up next.

Speaker 4 (01:55:11):
Let's go This is this Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 3 (01:55:15):
Let's go.

Speaker 5 (01:55:16):
Oh the football coach, Yeah, the football coach, the Hall
of Fame coach of the broadcaster.

Speaker 6 (01:55:21):
Oh, the video game guy.

Speaker 5 (01:55:22):
That video game guy has made a lot of money
with that, God rest his soul, But most of us
know him for other things. And it's Oh, by the way,
it's the video thing, which I'm sure probably made more
money than anything he could have ever have fathomed, although
I don't think it really mattered to him. But you know,
I've got John Madden my coach John Robinson have always
been best friends. Unfortunately both are passed away now. But

(01:55:43):
what a gig that is. And I don't play Madden either.
My kids did not watch it, but when I'm playing
video games, it's usually if I did, it would be
something else, like baseball or hockey. But this mad thing.
I have taught kids how to read some coverage in
Madden before you. Yeah, I went to their house, honestly,
guy way, I had a young kid who's a great kid,
went to his house to watch tape and then we
were learning. He said, well, I got the Madden video

(01:56:06):
game and we were talking coverages and we put it
on and they got guys going to the right spot
so you can identify and the rest of it. So
Madden's reach went further than just guys pissed off because
they don't get a ninety nine and their speeds down.
That actually has helped kids understand all. That's the visual
part of the coverage. But yeah, the ninety nine's have
they've never given a hundred, right, right?

Speaker 6 (01:56:25):
Ninety nine is the hundred right?

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
Yeah, So that's it means you're the best player. So
that's what I wanted to get to because the big
news with the game about a week out for being released,
they have put out don't put.

Speaker 6 (01:56:35):
The names out. Let's get you see the names already.

Speaker 1 (01:56:37):
I've gone. Yeah, it's seven guys are in the ninety
nine club for Madden twenty six.

Speaker 5 (01:56:44):
Okay, and I would imagine the majority of them are
on offense.

Speaker 1 (01:56:49):
Let's see one, two, three, four, five, Six of the
seven play.

Speaker 5 (01:56:54):
All right, so on the offensive side. And I don't
know because I don't know, and I don't know what
they're I don't even know what their criteria to give
ninety I'm gonna say Mahomes is.

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
Going to be on a badass.

Speaker 6 (01:57:04):
Okay, Mahomes is gonna be on there.

Speaker 1 (01:57:06):
So that's the first one that that there is no
mahomes on here, so that must mean a downgrade. If
he was a ninety nine last year, so they must
have dropped into a ninety eight.

Speaker 5 (01:57:16):
It okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Allen and Jackson,
not Alan Jackson, but Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
Allen and Lamar Jackson, ding ding both of those.

Speaker 6 (01:57:28):
I'm gonna go with Jefferson and Chase.

Speaker 1 (01:57:31):
On Jefferson and Chase both on the list.

Speaker 5 (01:57:36):
Kwon Barkley gonna be on that list, and he'll be
the only number. He'll be the only ninety nine running
back in my opinion right now if McCaffrey is the
full but I'm gonna say it's only him.

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
Am I right? You've got five of the seven, So okay, listen,
one offense, one.

Speaker 6 (01:57:48):
Defense, offensive player.

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
And this is why be this is a little bit
harder because this would not be I would go twenty
guesses without getting this guy.

Speaker 5 (01:57:58):
And if it's an offensive guy, it's not gonna be
brock Bowers, although he's gonna rise up in one of
these days of tight end. How about is it an
offensive lineman? Yes, it's not Slater, although it should be.
Uh yeah, we got paid. Well, he got divorced too,
and they got paid after. I'm gonna maybe they're they're not.

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It's not Ronnie Stanley Kansas City. Does he belong in
Kansas City?

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
No? But a team that does play for Super Bowls?

Speaker 5 (01:58:33):
Team that plays for Super Bowls. Oh, it's gotta be
a left tackle Brown, I mean not Brown. My guy
out at uh forty nine ers left tackle?

Speaker 6 (01:58:44):
No, not him? Why am I losing my mind?

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
For Philadelphia?

Speaker 6 (01:58:48):
It's not Lane Johnson?

Speaker 1 (01:58:49):
Lane Johnson.

Speaker 5 (01:58:49):
Okay, they got him in a ninety nine. I would
have had him high, but I wouldn't have thought that
he'd be nine. What's my wymow? What's my guy that
plays left tackle for Brown?

Speaker 6 (01:58:57):
Yeah? No, it's Trent is it? It's it's what's is?

Speaker 5 (01:59:01):
Why am I losing my mind?

Speaker 1 (01:59:03):
Dude?

Speaker 6 (01:59:03):
Who's the left tackle for the tax?

Speaker 1 (01:59:06):
There?

Speaker 6 (01:59:06):
You go?

Speaker 5 (01:59:07):
There's there because there's a bunch of there's Trent Brown.
There's that. It's Trent Williams. I would have had him there.
But I get the Lane Johnson thing. As far as
defensive player goes, it's going to be it's going to
be an edge rusher. I would imagine, am I correct, correct,
and it's going to be either Parsons or TJ.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
Watt.

Speaker 6 (01:59:23):
No, neither one. Oh, then it's Miles Garrett. Yes, there
you go.

Speaker 1 (01:59:26):
Okay, there you go. It's the only one that he
did pretty well there.

Speaker 6 (01:59:31):
But yeah, Mahomes numbers have dropped him a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:59:33):
Most people kind of incensed that no Mahomes and and
to which somebody replies, immediately, what did he do last
year that makes him a ninety nine?

Speaker 5 (01:59:43):
I I in the team concept. I get it as
an individual. The way they do which they judge it,
I wouldn't have I would have you were asked me
what I thought the game. I think that there's some
people that have bypassed him as far as explosiveness. Although
if he ain't a ninety nine, he's not a ninety,
he's somewhere close. I would imagine that they've bannered about
it and talked about it and said, well, you know what, close,

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But his numbers the last two years have not stood
up to the gaps closed. Let's put it this way,
with the Burrows and those guys, I would imagine him
and Burrow are the next level down from ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
So let me ask you this, bring it local. If
there were to be a Houston Texan that would join
the ninety nine club in the coming years, who would
you bet on?

Speaker 5 (02:00:24):
Well, right now, I would think the highest ranking Texan
in my opinion, would be Stingley at corner.

Speaker 1 (02:00:32):
Sting Yeah, that's probably a good one. I would say,
Nico's got to be up there. Nico Collins is you
know tops.

Speaker 5 (02:00:39):
The unfortunate thing is he's got a few guys to
run through, and that's why they don't want to put
five receivers on there.

Speaker 1 (02:00:43):
I'd say. But but to me, if there was a
guy that's going to be on that list in the
next five years, Will Anderson Junior, he would.

Speaker 6 (02:00:49):
Be my second choice. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:00:50):
I when you were asked me, the first thing came
in my mind was it's going to be one of
those two. And the closer to the football a lot
of times gets more love. And so if Will Anderson
and him both can seing you on this ascent, the
natural one would be, let's get the edge rusher because
he's getting sacks and we know we love those numbers.
So yes, one or two, and then depending on Stroud's

(02:01:10):
you know, the Stroud's continued elevation. He and Jade and
Daniels as we move forward, will be two guys that
you'll consider the problem is there. Obviously they've got a
bunch of quarterbacks to get through on the Madden list
to reach it, but I would imagine they're not far behind.

Speaker 1 (02:01:23):
Yeah, you get Stroud has an awesome MVP like year
and get see Texans to the AFC Championship game. Yeah,
he'll be climbing up that list. He'll be covering.

Speaker 6 (02:01:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:01:33):
I would imagine that some of these guys, you know,
used to be cover of Sports Illustrated. Now it's the
cover of Madden. You want to get on the cover
of Madden is the oh man, I'm the guy, and
it does matter to these guys, and they do take
their speed and all that stuff pretty serious. Although I
don't know the criteria to get to a ninety nine,
I would imagine it's pretty extensive and it's hard to
argue the list that they have out as far as
ninety nine's go.

Speaker 1 (02:01:53):
Yeah, not a bad list. So, and they do do
a thing in season when they move guys up and
down week to week, well, so could have some change there.
All right, we'll return. We'll stick with the football front
because we had some news on a key player for
the Houston Texans who is eyeing a week one return.
How concern should we be about the health we'll discuss

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that coming up.

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Speaker 1 (02:04:40):
It was announced she is going to be inducted into
the Texans Ring of Honor.

Speaker 6 (02:04:44):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:04:45):
This comes on the heels of of course. Uh, let's see,
you had Bob McNair was the first inductee into the
Ring of Honor, and then since then they have done
Andre Johnson and JJ Watt. I'm fine with again, you know,
she's as much of a part of this as you know,
when Bob wanted to buy the team and all that.
I almost feel like they probably could have both gone

(02:05:07):
in together, you know, when they first played bother.

Speaker 5 (02:05:09):
It feels to me, I mean, yeah, I mean it's
I mean, the impact of them both. It would have
been easy to do, right, but maybe also they wanted
to send a message to stand alone that she's impacted
it whether mister McNair was around or not, right, right,
and so, and I understand let her stand alone and
give her her credit. But I'm with you at the time,
you think, well, you probably could have put him in
together and honored them both the same time. But it

(02:05:33):
also may mean a lot because when you putting anybody
in by themselves, they would get to celebrate you all loan,
which is which is okay with me?

Speaker 1 (02:05:41):
Who's who's next on this list? And you're I mean,
I I think I think Arion Foster deserves to be
in there with what he was. He was one of
the best running backs in the NFL during his peak
with the Texans, and as good as Andre was as
the receiver. And yes, he didn't have the best quarterbacks
on the ball, there was so much of those offenses

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in those Kubiak years, Arion Foster was the offense.

Speaker 5 (02:06:04):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of former players the impact
of what they did and Wayne Brown, Yep, the way
it ended for Drane Brown may be may be a problem, right, Joseph,
there's another guy. You start to look at the names
that are there and you say, okay, on the cusp,
it would seem that the best player in it in

(02:06:27):
that period of time for this roster and they're good,
was Arion Foster. Now, well, they put him in, is
it time? Do they make him wait? And then I
start to think, is it actually going to be somebody
who is on this current roster? That's a long ways away,
you know what I mean? Where does that come from?
But as over the time, Gordon, you've been here, you know,
most of your life. I've been here the last twelve

(02:06:49):
twelve or so years, Arion Foster is the name that
I think would come up the most outside of the
guys that are already in. I don't know, does Gary
Kubiak count does he come into play after his impact
and what they did and and uh franchise playoffs rights? Yeah,
does that come into Does that? Does that impact anybody

(02:07:09):
at all? And I think Gary's well, again, Gary's had
a hell of a career as a coach and played
a long time as Elway's backup, but really has done
some good things as a coordinator and head coach. Maybe
I would probably say I would probably say that as
a player, the next one in line would probably be
And I can understand Cushing, he did it a long
time and did it at a high level. Foster's probably

(02:07:30):
next in line. If that was going to be somebody,
if you felt he was worthy of getting in. I
think that he probably And longevity is one thing, but
your impact in the time you were here, and aside
from Joe Mixon and and you can still say Foster's
been the best running back in franchise history.

Speaker 1 (02:07:46):
Yeah. And it's tough too because the Texans franchise, like
this is just the Texans Ring of Honor. But Andrey Johnson,
we know went into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
We know JJ Watt. It's just a matter of time
before when he's eligible, he'll go in. So both those
guys being the Texas Ring of Honor is no brainer
because they're both Pro Football famers. Yep. But then you
start to get into the categories of like DeAndre Hopkins,

(02:08:10):
who you know here at his peak was as good as.

Speaker 5 (02:08:13):
You know, I forget about him because he's no longer.
I mean, he's been on a couple teams since. But
if you're just talking about production and longer career, he'd
be next if you're willing to do that, Like I said,
if you can put aside like the Dwayne Brown and
the Hobbins, how it ended and just their impact here,
and that doesn't a lot off. It ends wrong, guys
come back and retire where they are. I production wise,

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DeAndre Hopkins probably belongs in because it was a little
longer than Aaron Foster. But six and one a half
does the other. Both impactful, both dominated their position, and
both were considered one of the best of their positions
in the league in a certain amount in a certain
period of time. But I put it this way, I
don't think we'd argue if either one went in, and
there's a chance that over the course of time both will.

Speaker 1 (02:08:57):
Yeah, it's again, it's just kind of some fun to
kind of kick around, you know, on on who's going
to be the next person.

Speaker 6 (02:09:04):
Into anyway that neither one of them make it in.

Speaker 1 (02:09:08):
Well, I mean, how exclusive do you want the Texans
Ring of Honor to be?

Speaker 5 (02:09:11):
Think how long it took Jimmy Johnson with the Cowboys
to get in. That was ego and pride.

Speaker 1 (02:09:16):
Yeah, no doubt Jerry being petty. But you know, but
the other one is Demiko Ryans. I mean, his years
as a player here and now he's back as a coach.
He's getting it done on two fronts.

Speaker 6 (02:09:27):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 5 (02:09:28):
A couple more years of doing this and getting deeper
into the playoffs, and you would have to consider him
because of how he performed, what he's done, the path
he's taken, and now he's impacting this franchise a second
time in a different way and and probably in a
more important way considering all the lives he's touching that
that you know, he's the leader of this thing and
oversees a bunch of you know, a bunch of players,

(02:09:49):
and he's a pretty dynamic individual. Yeah, I would say
that he probably comes into play, but you're going to
let the coaching part of it take a little longer
before you do that.

Speaker 1 (02:09:59):
I think down the road in like fifteen years twenty
years from now, we're looking back and Hannah McNair going
into the.

Speaker 6 (02:10:06):
I would I would.

Speaker 5 (02:10:07):
I would think that a lot of the great change
in the front office.

Speaker 6 (02:10:10):
You got to give credit where credits due. Gordie.

Speaker 5 (02:10:13):
She's she's I think there's some some of the big
brains behind it and some of the bold moves.

Speaker 6 (02:10:19):
I think she has something to do with it. Did crap?

Speaker 5 (02:10:23):
Yep, she did, and she's done a really really nice job.
This franchise is now three years ago. People are looking
at this franch like, who wants to be a part
of that four years ago. Now there's there. It's becoming,
at least on the on the surface of destination spot.
Because of ownership's changed the way the front office handling it.
The professionalism from top to bottom is now looked at

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different viewed Nash and I could tell you that for
a fact because having dealt with that when I was
doing TV and then mister McNair, then there came that lull.
People loved it, came that lull of man, where are
they going when Bill O'Brien and the ambracive part and
all the controversy that has been well documented and they've
got it fixed. They've hired the right people, and now

(02:11:06):
there are people that want to come play here that
five years ago wouldn't have wanted any part of it.

Speaker 1 (02:11:11):
Few other Texans notes here was note over the weekend
low Kiki, local Houston rapper revealed that Andre Johnson was
a victim of a burglary at his home a couple
of nights ago. Said that some some some things that
were personal to him were stolen. Said things that were
special to him and commemorate his NFL career in addition

(02:11:33):
to jewelry, I can tell you he doesn't give a
damn about the jewelry. He wants the NFL memorabilia back.

Speaker 5 (02:11:39):
I can replace the jewelry or whatever. You can't replace
that one autograph for that one thing that met some
to you or if it was like a you know,
a ring, a hollow you whatever it is, or a
watch that somebody gave you, or a hall of you know,
those things that he well, the money can't buy unless
you're a memory of b a salesperson you want to
sell him. I hope that somebody recovers that he gets back.

(02:12:01):
And I just people are people are frigging pathetic. Okay,
people are pathetic. The stuff that take you know what
you want cash, knock on my door. Okay, all right,
but leave my rings and watches and memorabilion stuff, a
picture or a frame or something a painting somebody did.
Just just leave those alone, and they seem to know
exactly where to go. I'll forget leave the million dollars

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cash there. Let's grab this ring. That's it's sentimental value.
The other stuff's replaceable, and that's you know, it's such
a violation when somebody does that and we see it
happen often, way too often.

Speaker 6 (02:12:33):
That's a bummer. I hope there's a way to recover it.

Speaker 5 (02:12:35):
And if you ever noticed that, they never steal it
when the guy's there because and where he can catch you.
And it's like, okay, now you're going to suffer the
punishment in my home.

Speaker 1 (02:12:44):
I've seen Shaw Salisbury's dogs and guns. I would not
go close to his home.

Speaker 6 (02:12:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:12:50):
Well, well now listen, my memorabiliy is not gonna make you
any money. It's they's not gonna make you any money.
I mean, they've got some good stuff from some other people.
They may make you some money. And so you know,
if you want to take the Mark McGuire bat or
the Willie Mace autograph, fine, but I could I can
tell you this did I was gonna say, there's a
layer you're gonna have to go through it well for

(02:13:10):
you either, but I could. Matter of fact, you don't
have to break in, come on in and have your
selection if you wanted that bad and if you make
four bucks off it, great, But the the stuff that
you'd have to do that, if you're really get a
fight to get to it, you'd just be better off
and safe for asking me.

Speaker 6 (02:13:25):
Because that's not layers you want.

Speaker 1 (02:13:26):
To go through. Keikey said, Andre Johnson's my brother. He's
the first Texans Hall of Famer. He dedicated his life here,
his career here. Over the weekend, someone broke in his home,
stole some things that represent his legacy, his dedication, his
hard work, and his family. We need to recover that
and get that back to him. This isn't like a
car or jersey hanging around. This is stuff that represents
his career and his family. So again they said they're

(02:13:49):
working with polleys hoping that somebody will come forward.

Speaker 6 (02:13:52):
Yeah. So gut wrenching. And the truth is the matter
is you return it.

Speaker 5 (02:13:57):
Obviously you're gonna get in trouble, but it almost gets
the aren't we Like you know what, man, this is
just but if you're stealing it, you really don't care
about somebody's feelings. Unfortunately, and after all that hard work,
the stuff that you can't replace.

Speaker 1 (02:14:10):
And Andre just one of the good dudes. Yeah, I
mean it's not even like exactly you know.

Speaker 5 (02:14:15):
If if you didn't need it something bad enough, the
guy seems like a good enough duty to probably help
you get it.

Speaker 1 (02:14:19):
Yeah, he's around practice. You want his autograph, you want something,
He'll sign whatever you bring to him.

Speaker 5 (02:14:24):
Yeah, and that's a big fellow too. Probably why is
that you If you're going to do it, you probably
didn't want to run into him in his living room
pissed off either because we saw a player on the
field that didn't that got a little bit of that
wrath as a player when Andre played. But it's just that,
and then you like, you feel like now my house
is that it's just different. Somebody came in and violated

(02:14:44):
and knew my routine and knew how to get in
and broke into my.

Speaker 6 (02:14:47):
Home and knew where my stuff was. Yeah, I don't
like that man that bothers me.

Speaker 1 (02:14:51):
When we're return one more Texans nugget here, a star
player for the Texans who is sidelined. When will he return?
Can we be concerned? We'll discuss that coming up next.

Speaker 4 (02:15:04):
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Speaker 10 (02:15:13):
Don't forget to book a few air holes. You'll be
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Speaker 5 (02:15:23):
And people are said there saying, who the hell's Barry
Gordy Lowell music legend.

Speaker 1 (02:15:27):
Yeah. Look at any Motown record and look at the
name on the record.

Speaker 5 (02:15:31):
Yeah yeah, talking about a guy who controlled all of
Motown and it started with him, no doubt.

Speaker 6 (02:15:35):
Pretty good legend legend.

Speaker 1 (02:15:38):
Uh, there was a little concerning news, Sean. I just
wonder what your level is of concern is when we
saw over the weekend, we knew Joe Mixon. He's been
sidelined with foot and ankle issues he initially suffered last
season and then aggravated them working out independently this offseason,

(02:15:58):
and so is our buddy Aaron reports, Mixon is not
expected to do much throughout this training camp or anything
during preseason as far as team activity and his big
picture medical outlook remains positive in a sense that he's
been doing great and is expected to Basically they put
a target of that week one road opener against the Rams,

(02:16:20):
Mixing is gonna be ready to go for that. But
any level concern here that he's just not gonna do
anything with the team throughout the training camp or preseason.

Speaker 5 (02:16:27):
Gordian most positions and depending on how long you've been
in the league and would normally say yeah, concerns me,
but There's a couple of layers to this that don't
concern me.

Speaker 6 (02:16:35):
One is as we.

Speaker 5 (02:16:37):
Go on longer, and you know, in the way the
collective bargaining set up, I mean training camp is short
and got a country club feel to it at times.
That's and I know that sounds like old school, but
it was different then. And and but I Mixon comes
to camp in shape that we know that he takes
that serious. Adding Nick Chubb gives me a little bit

(02:16:58):
of latitude knowing that I've got a stud who is
a starting running back who's going to be the backup here.
I wouldn't play mix. Let's say Mixon was one hundred
percent healthy. You know what I'd be telling you at
the beginning of camp. He's not getting any work. Yeah,
he'll he'll go through and we'll practice and stuff, but
I'm not gonna wear him out or not dragging him
to the ground. That ankle and we want to make

(02:17:19):
sure the ankle foot, regardless of what it is, are healthy.
But even if he was healthy, I'm not giving him
any work. If I'm Derek Henry, if I'm Baltimore, Derek
Henry's not getting one touch in a pre matter of fact,
I'm not even putting him in any uniform during the
preseason games, so it's the one position that those guys
usually take their conditioning serious, so he'll be in shape.
Two is I don't need him knowing who to block

(02:17:42):
in the preseason, because he knows who to block, and
he's been in the league long enough at running back
that the preservation of their legs are far more important
to me than somebody rolling over on him on accident
in a nine on seven drill in full gear like today,
they're putting the pads up.

Speaker 6 (02:17:56):
I don't need it.

Speaker 5 (02:17:57):
So those are for other guys that are trying to
make the team that we'll see how they add on.
I don't need mixing. So to be honest with you,
as long as they're not feeling you. Now, if you
give me this thing that says Sean he's in the
same feeling pain wise, or where he was three weeks
from now, you're telling me the same thing after he's rested,
then I'm concerned because we're one Nick Chubb injury away

(02:18:19):
from this offense. Obviously in their bandwidth changing, I don't
care if he doesn't get a lot of work during
the preseason. I don't care that he doesn't take a
snap in a preseason game as long as he's doing
enough to stay in safe condition. I need fresh legs
with Joe Mixon more than I need battle tested. He's
been plenty battle tested.

Speaker 1 (02:18:37):
As Aaron reports, he was in a walking boot in
the spring after getting injured working out on his own.
Once he got out of the boot, he wore a
lace up ankle brace to protect him, and over the
summer he has made a significant improvement in his mobility
and has made strides. As Aaron Wrights, Mixing doesn't typically
play in the preseason anyway, thank you. He didn't normally

(02:18:58):
play in preseason games, so the best and the Texans
followed a similar approach with him since he joined the team. Well,
it's far from ideal Mixing to not have snaps. To
get acclimated to new OC Nick Cayley's offense and the
new overhauled offensive line, the Texans will lean on Nick Chubb,
dary ogibowally and what he marks in his house.

Speaker 5 (02:19:16):
And in truth, Gordy, the verbiage isn't going to be
that much difference because he comes from the similar tree,
meaning the coordinator, the McVey Shannan the verbiage will be
pretty soon, and I think that was important to the
Texans of not having it where the verbage is completely changed,
where you've got to spend your whole off season in
a playbook, where it's like, Okay, a lot of this
sounds similar, but how we call the places and how

(02:19:38):
we get to it maybe different. So as long as
also would Joe be at practice doing those things, walking
around taped or in a boot, I'm okay with. As
long as he's in the meetings and paying attention to
how we're doing it. The mental side is more important
than me for that with a guy that I know
is going to post every week when he's healthy and
is going to bring it physically, so I'm not worried
at all.

Speaker 6 (02:19:57):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (02:19:58):
I would not if I was the head coach and
he was healthy. He wouldn't get one carry in the
preseason in a game. I don't care if it's his
seven for sixty five for mixing in the preseason. What
I do care is in the first week of the season,
we come in saying he's one hundred percent healthy and
ready to go. There will not be nothing sluggish or man,
can you beat the physicality of him. Joe Mixon has

(02:20:18):
got plenty of that. The more importantly for him is
to have these two backs healthy.

Speaker 6 (02:20:23):
And ready to go.

Speaker 5 (02:20:24):
And Nick Chubb wouldn't get a lot of carries in
a preseason game, if any I don't need that risk either.
He's probably got to be a little more acclaim I
mean into it. Although you know this guy is rehabbing
the offseason, but for him just hearing it getting out
of huddle, he'll probably end.

Speaker 6 (02:20:38):
Up getting a little more work in practice.

Speaker 5 (02:20:39):
But Nick Chubb's not getting a whole lot of carries
in the preseason either.

Speaker 6 (02:20:43):
I don't need that.

Speaker 1 (02:20:44):
I was gonna say a little bit of I saw
him out there in camp the other day. He looks good.
I mean, I again, he's been around, done it so long.
I don't need him doing it so again preseason. Expect
plenty of Jawar Jordan, Dario Goabowali and Rookie. Would he
come on down.

Speaker 5 (02:21:00):
It's it'sjan out there to get some running and get
all that physicality. Let him, let him get himself battle tested.
I don't need my two best running backs to play much.
I'm really I'm not worried. Just like I wouldn't give
Stroud but a couple handoffs in a few ties. I
don't need those guys being in the wrong place at
the wrong time in preseason. I've changed my thought over
the years on this because I liked playing in some

(02:21:22):
in preseason, But when it comes to the stars are
guys that need to impact my franchise. Their carries in
the preseason don't mean squad.

Speaker 1 (02:21:29):
Tom Well, we're already down the three preseason games. I
think we're you're on your way to two, you're on
your way to two regular season games.

Speaker 6 (02:21:38):
You are. They're not going to give up that revenue.

Speaker 5 (02:21:40):
But eventually it's going to get to the point and
I'm okay with them getting to the point where you
treat it like college at a game. Uh, if you want,
and let them practice against other teams on the practice
field for two or three days and control those so
people aren't on the ground when you need them. You
can go live but controlled, and you can do away
with preseason if you ask.

Speaker 1 (02:21:59):
Me games though, We're just it was a joke. It
was dude, You've never heard of guys that will not
be making an NFL roster. It's just it was silly.
And every now and then you find a gem.

Speaker 5 (02:22:11):
And he got it served its purpose for him to play.
But it's like he would in three games.

Speaker 1 (02:22:15):
I feel like that will bore itself out through more
rigorous trading. Gise. Well, you know again, if a guy
deserves a spot, he'll earn it there. I don't think
we need a fourth preseason game to see it.

Speaker 6 (02:22:24):
Gordian truth.

Speaker 5 (02:22:25):
Most of the it's the daily grind of meetings and
going down in the practice with sustaining good play and
practice it and gets guys to make teams. It's not
the did you see he completed five passes for five
passes in a preseason game? Yet he's still your fifth quarterback.
He's not making your team, right, But you start making
that when I had to make team my rookie year.
And I'm just using minus example, there were six quarterbacks

(02:22:45):
in camp. It had and I played well in preseason games.
But now that was just the validation. Had I have
not played well in the practices and in the meetings
and showed up during those drills, I would have never
got a chance to play in a game because we
had sign they would just get reps to a few
and that was back when the starter was playing a
lot anyway, like David Craig, but I was getting a
lot of work. But in truth, that was just validation

(02:23:07):
the way you practice. If you don't practice well, the
chances of you getting in a game, if you're that
deep at a position, are slim. That's how I make
my judget can you handle the every day, two a
day grind that gets you to, oh, now you're gonna go.
It should be easier because they get tired of watching
you on the practice field doing the same thing. You
go play another game. We're not game planning for the
Baltimore Ravens in preseason. You go play them, You go

(02:23:28):
get your six to eight throws in and move on.
But if you're not sustaining good play and making good
decisions in practice, the coaches won't trust you.

Speaker 6 (02:23:35):
It won't matter what you do in the third preseason game.

Speaker 1 (02:23:37):
One more Texas note, Aaron points out linebacker Christian Harris
still isn't practicing today, still making progress from his calf injury.
Is he hanging out with Jake Myers do some CAF.

Speaker 6 (02:23:48):
I'm a little more concerned with him than I am
Joe Mixon.

Speaker 1 (02:23:50):
Yahually, somebody said he was supposed to be ready for
training campus what they said.

Speaker 5 (02:23:54):
It's been a long because Joe hurt his any offseason,
Christian Harris, this has been going on for a minute, right, Yeah,
I'm a little concerned about him and if he's still
in that calf, as we know, those things linger, if
you're not one hundred percent healthy, and he the depth
that he provides would be really important and impressive here.
If you could get that done and get him back
on the field, that's that's a little dangerous and a

(02:24:16):
little little a sneaky concern, even if it's not sneaky
for me.

Speaker 1 (02:24:20):
They brought an EJ. Speed from the Colts. But in
a perfect world, I think you want what Harris al
Shair Toatoa. You're three starting back by the way week
from Saturday, this Saturday. A week from this Saturday, Texans
at Vikings, first preseason game.

Speaker 6 (02:24:38):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (02:24:39):
It's crazy, it is, and before you know it, we're
going to be opening in September and I can't wait
for it.

Speaker 1 (02:24:46):
Out wait, let's go outside during the break and start
throwing some some bombs around.

Speaker 5 (02:24:50):
Just don't make me move. I can still throw it.
I just don't want to.

Speaker 1 (02:24:52):
Move it all right? Well, return here on the Shawn
Salisman Show. Got a couple of stories we have not
hit on yet. We'll throw those Shawn's way, coming up
next and live. But the Sewn Salisbury Show continued. You know,
my career is always going to come first, but you'll
be second on that list. The dog will be third, even.

Speaker 5 (02:25:14):
Even if it's not. Don't admit it, Okay, honey, You're
always first. You're always first, and then you put your
time and people understand you're trying to grind through your career.
But to admit it and say you can't be good
at it, I can give you an example of a
whole lot of people that could balance kids, family, dogs,
in laws and still be really good at that. Yes,

(02:25:36):
what's the one guy? What's one guy who dominated but
waited till his career was over. He dated plaint was jeter.
He waited till his career was over and got married,
which is fine, but he didn't get cheated out of
the funny he was having along the way, which you
do know what I'm saying. There you go, but you know,
married and happy and waited until he's done because he
was focused on his gig. But I don't think we

(02:25:56):
lost thee We never thought, well, that's a selfish guy.

Speaker 3 (02:25:58):
He just was.

Speaker 6 (02:25:59):
He didn't he wanted to wait.

Speaker 5 (02:26:00):
But when in this case, you're sitting in a studio
the whole time, you can actually prepare. There's twenty four
hours in the day. It's like I always laugh when
guy says, Man, when you'll get a guy who sets
out of a bowl game and instead of just telling
us I want to sit outcause I don't want to
get hurtcause I'm gonna be a first round pick, he'll
say I'm getting ready for the NFL draft four months
from now, and it's November twenty eighth. All right, I

(02:26:23):
get your getting ready, or hey, you want to go
do something while I'm working out. You're not working out
fifteen hours a day. I get you don't want to
get hurt. Let's put it in perspective. You're going to
the gym a couple hours, going to your sitting in
your breathing chamber, going whatever it is, and then there's
sixteen more hours in the day. You've got stuff to do.
So basically you just say you don't want to play,
you don't want to get hurt. And you're gonna focus
on that, not just I'm working out. It's the same

(02:26:45):
thing here now Skip Bayless can do what he wants.
But this can't surprise you, Gordy, that there's a selfish
part of this. That he looked his wife in the
face and said, you're always going to play second fiddle
to my career.

Speaker 6 (02:26:58):
You can balance both, and if you are, don't admit it.

Speaker 1 (02:27:00):
Now. Maybe when he sent that multi million dollar deal,
she looked at and went, well, let me guess it
was worth it.

Speaker 5 (02:27:06):
Yeah, And plus you talk too much anyway, so I
don't care if you're gone half the time anyway. And
by the way, if you do something really stupid, half
of that's mine, right, So there you go, so be careful.
So while he was opinionated and changed the debate game
to me and did he say something about Scheffler so.

Speaker 1 (02:27:23):
That this is where it ties in, So Scotty Scheffler.
Prior to the Open Championship, which of course he ended
up winning. By the way, Scheffler admitted, while he obviously
wanted to win the tournament, his value in life now
is as a father and a husband, and to him
that'll always be more important than him being the best
golfer in the world. Well, Skip Bayless, Yes, it deserves
around them. Applause. Skip Bayless shared a different opinion on

(02:27:45):
his most recent episode of The Skip Bayless Show, which
he dropped Friday. He said, the guy who has a
chance to be Tiger Woods, maybe even Michael Jordan, was
questioning what it all means on the eve of a
major championship that he had never won. My initial reaction
was rest in peace. Scotti Scheffer is a major championship winner.
He had doubted, he had questioned, he had asked why

(02:28:07):
he was. I thought, for a moment, done you know me?
I'm all about the goats being cold blooded sports killers,
being obsessed with winning to the detriment of everything else
in their lives. Win or else, win or go home
to nobody. Basically, he went into detail about how his
professional career has been fueled by an obsession to his craft,

(02:28:27):
how Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods are the goats of
their sport and Skip wants to be the goat of his.
So he just couldn't understand. Scotty Scheffler would say being
a father and a husband was more important than being
the best golf forever.

Speaker 5 (02:28:41):
Let me give Skip a little advice here. First off,
he went and not only did Scotty Scheffer win it,
he won it in bold fashion just because he says
his wife and kids are the most important. Give him
more satisfaction, which most people probably feel that way. I
would think that are in it. Did he forget the
part where Scotty Scheffer says, oh, it doesn't disrupt I'm

(02:29:01):
not practicing and grinding every day to be the best
player in the world and to win.

Speaker 6 (02:29:06):
That's why he does it.

Speaker 5 (02:29:07):
So it's not as if he got fat and happy
and said, you know what, my mentality change. His mentality
is the same. I go into every tournament expecting to win.
I go into every tournament. I've put the time in
and practice time because you can't hit the ball where
he hits it. Just by showing up on Thursday, Friday,
Saturday and Sunday. He practices, he grinds, He's got a
great cat. Everything's rolling well for him. I don't think

(02:29:28):
what he said meant that his drive to be great.

Speaker 6 (02:29:30):
It's not it.

Speaker 5 (02:29:30):
He just said the satisfaction win and more satisfaction and
more that feeling of peace or whatever it is. He
described I paraphrase that when he's around his son and
it is winning and losing his fleeting, and it's right.
Look what Saban did when he'd win a championship. You'd
watch the camera on him when he'd walk off, and
I said this, and I don't know if it was
you that was with me last week, then I said it.
But Lane, I mean Lane Kiffin had said that after

(02:29:56):
they won a national title that the next morning, Nick
said even called a seven or seven thirty morning meeting. Yea,
and Lane questions said, why are we meeting this early?
He goes, We've won this, We've played longer than everybody else.
We're behind in recruiting. Instead of sleeping in after you,
you drank and smoked a cigar till four in the morning.

Speaker 6 (02:30:14):
That was saving.

Speaker 5 (02:30:15):
So he didn't really enjoy it long, Dick Vermil told
me years ago in an interview. As Dick said, I said,
what's your one regret? He goes, The only regret I
have in my coaching career is I didn't enjoy the
wins enough. But all that preparation still winning because you're grinding.
So I watched Cheffer looks pretty single minded to me
when he's on the course. But what a novel concept.
You mean, versatility and the ability to be able to

(02:30:35):
do other things and actually get away from your sport
for a second. Okay, Michael Jordan got away from his
Michael Jordan played a lot of golf ale he was playing.
Michael Jordan liked to go to Vegas during an All
Star weekend and get played a little blackjack or poker,
and then come back and play and still dominate.

Speaker 6 (02:30:51):
He's cut different for a reason.

Speaker 5 (02:30:53):
All this is telling me is Skip can't multitask, and
that Scottie Scheffler can. But make no mistakes, We'll be
hitting balls out of the bunker before the FedEx Cup Championship,
before the Ryder Cup all day, every day, trying to
get himself ready. But when he's home, more satisfaction out
of raising kids. And most of us feel like that.

Speaker 1 (02:31:11):
More on the quote, he says, I was jolted and
jarred by what Scott he said. No, Scotty, no, God
gave you the spectacular ability to play the world's hardest game,
the strongest drive since Tiger gave you what Jack Nicholas had.
You can't just shrug it off. At age twenty nine
and focus on being a better father than a golfer.
You can't do that, Scotty. No, God wants you to
maximize that platform. That's what he led you to, not

(02:31:34):
the focus of your wife an infant son. Before you're thirty.
Golf is just too hard, right.

Speaker 5 (02:31:39):
And then he's won, He's won more by the time
he's not even thirty yet, he's going to be the
number one guy at FedEx. He's been in one hundred
and some weeks or whatever it's been where two and
a half years, he's been the most dominant golfer and
it's not close and he just happens to be a
dad to There's no way Skip Bayless believes this. This

(02:32:00):
is this hot technie every time.

Speaker 6 (02:32:03):
I hear him, there is no way he believes.

Speaker 5 (02:32:07):
Oh, He's giving you this talent to be that God
doesn't care about if he makes a put or not. Okay,
what kind of life would it be if you did
all these victories in one of these games, had nobody
to share it with, or all of a sudden you're
forty five and you're like, I was a crappy ass dad,
and a lot of dads have gone through.

Speaker 6 (02:32:24):
That because you couldn't.

Speaker 5 (02:32:25):
And I get the commitment to career as long as
the commitment doesn't get in the way of I mean
of being a parent. You still got, like we do,
you got to go to work. I mean, you got
to earn a living. And I would think that Scottie
Scheffler's drive to be the best, that the proof is
in the pudding, which is the way he's played. And
once again his perspective is probably would a lot of
us need the ability to multitest would be when you're focused,

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you're single minded on that task.

Speaker 6 (02:32:49):
Why you're on the task.

Speaker 5 (02:32:50):
It doesn't mean you've got to be immersed into all
of it twenty four to seven and think it toward
drives you insane. And some of Skip Bayless's takes are insane.
And this is at the top of the list. Okay,
are you kidding me? There's no way he believes this, Gordy,
There's no frigging way.

Speaker 1 (02:33:07):
I think you're right. It's just again another way for
it enough to talk about.

Speaker 6 (02:33:11):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (02:33:12):
Just the hot takes continue.

Speaker 5 (02:33:14):
Oh, he's becomfort. I mean, you're not trying. He's not
on any national show, right, it's just his podcast. Right,
and he's had a good run. I'll give him credit
because he loves to work. I don't dog him for that.
But to say that Scotti, Sheffer and Scheffler's probably laughing
his ass off. Well, you want to come and hold
the trophy from the British Open. I can help you
hold that if you'd like. And I assume he'll play
pretty well the rest of the year and heading into

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next year. I don't think his grind is going to stop.
It's just that he has proper perspective, which is a
good husband and a good father. Yeah, I would say
that I'd probably get locked up into that. More important
is my identity than if I can hit a golf
ball two thirty to a coffee can size hole, which
is pretty good.

Speaker 6 (02:33:51):
It appears to me he can do both.

Speaker 1 (02:33:52):
Wow, and he could also do movies. He's fantastic and
happen there'll go too, So there you go. Check that out.

Speaker 6 (02:33:56):
All that personality for a guy who doesn't say a whole.

Speaker 1 (02:33:59):
Lot is not happy. Gilmore too, Well, it's.

Speaker 6 (02:34:02):
Because he's working on his path. He hasn't wondered a
movie to get.

Speaker 1 (02:34:04):
In the way him working on his coming up. Final
segment we got to show a little love to Billy Wagner.
We haven't talked enough about him going to the Hall
of Fame. I'll discuss that in our final segment coming
up next.

Speaker 10 (02:34:16):
Let the celebration startre Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:34:24):
My only gripe with it. And I don't know, I
don't know how you change it, but doing it on
a Sunday while games are going on, it's just it
just sucks because you're asking your fan base to choose.
You're asking your fan base, Hey, either watch the live
game your favorite team is playing, or switch over and
watch the Hall of Fame speeches.

Speaker 5 (02:34:43):
There is no doubt. It kind of gets lost in
all the shuffle, doesn't it. And it's such a big moment.
They got parades and all that stuff going on. I'm
with you, when's the last time you watched all the
speeches at the Cooperstown.

Speaker 1 (02:34:57):
I mean, I think I've really only watched. I mean
I've I watched Bagwell, I watched Bigio, I watched Wagner. Yeah,
I mean probably a few here and there of big players,
did you.

Speaker 6 (02:35:11):
Yeah, But the NFL makes it a they do it.

Speaker 1 (02:35:13):
Yeah, it's such a Saturday night during preseason. It is
the show, the games. The precing game has already been played.
It's the only thing happened.

Speaker 5 (02:35:20):
Right, Uh, people of you team fans will obviously Texas
Longhorn played seventeen years. Greg Swindell, who I follow and
have played a golf tournament before and love his personality.
He tweeted a couple of days ago, best move the
Astros ever made, and this has come from a guy
who played seventeen years and had was a hell of
a player. Best move the Astros ever made was releasing me,

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meaning Greg Swindell, the kid they brought up, is being
inducted into Cooperstown this week. In congrats Billy Wagner thirteen.
And so that's a great compliment, you know, and also
awful humble to say, that's the best move the Astros
ever made. And it's ended in a Hall of Fame
career a little later and some had wanted it, but
finally got in and that's all that matters.

Speaker 6 (02:36:02):
And congrats to him.

Speaker 5 (02:36:04):
What a player and what a career, and what a
great compliment from Greg.

Speaker 1 (02:36:08):
Yeah, and I think it was a Bigio was telling
the story. They had it on MLB Network but basically
saying that him and Jeff Bagwall went over. They said, oh,
let's let's go check out this kid, and he said,
first day they saw him third and went, man, this
kid throws hard. And I mean I was like their
first reaction like, oh, all right, yea turn in some

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heads and then goes on to be one of the
best closers of all time, and like you said, had
to wait a little time. But as long as you
get it right. I mean, that's That's always a crazy
thing to me is Baseball is always very protective about
first ballot. You got to be truly special to be
first ballot. But then it's like, so you tell me
this guy's a Hall of Famer. He wasn't a Hall

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of Famer last year or the year before, the year before,
but this year is the year's you know. It's just like,
if you're a Hall of Famer, you're a Hall of Fame.

Speaker 5 (02:36:55):
The whole Baseball election process for the Hall of Fame
bugs me.

Speaker 6 (02:37:00):
It does. I can't say the whole thing. A lot
of it does.

Speaker 5 (02:37:02):
And I wish it was as big an ordeal as
the as the NFL, because I got news for you
that they trying to get into the baseball Hall of
Fame is a chore, buddy. I mean, they're all chore.
It's the elite of the elite. Don't misunderstand me, but
I would say the Basketball Hall of Fame is the
easiest because it's not a lot of times it has
nothing to do with what you've been doing. I mean,

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I know they all call choose an owner or somebody
else will be in, But it feels to me that
more people are in the Basketball Hall of Fame than
the others.

Speaker 6 (02:37:30):
That's the way it feels.

Speaker 5 (02:37:31):
I'd have to go look at the numbers, but we're
less than four hundred in the NFL Hall of Fame.
And there will be times we've gone through where nobody
gets in, which is weird in the big you know
what I'm saying, which is odd to me. But he's
in the Hall of Fame and we decided no one
was worth right. It's it's almost there's there's so much
like pride and ego and feels like controversy and personal.
It's like, well, what'd you do on the field. Yeah,

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but he snubbed me for an interview, so I'm going
to leave him out. It's like, good gracious, but Billy
Wagner got his due, just took longer than we thought.
But the truth of the matter is a Hall of
Famer and to him, the timing of it now probably
doesn't matter. He gets to celebrate it with his family,
and congrats to him and each he row who else
Dave Parker, Dick Allen? Really, I mean, did I leave

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somebody out? So Bathia, there you go, another one who's
had a phenomenal career. And I saw his story. He said,
I've woke up this morning a Hall of famer, you know,
his whole life he you know, waited for this and
worked for this, and that's good. That's a phenomenal, phenomenal
way to after your career is over, to somebody come
tap you on the shoulder. And I know every year
guys are you know, sitting there waiting and concerned about

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when their opportunity is going to present itself. And congrats
to Billy and the whole class. Good class with a
lot of good players. And for those who didn't get
to see Dave Parker, you missed a treat Sad that
he didn't get to present, you know, give a speech.
But also Dick Allen was pretty damn special too, So
it's good to see this.

Speaker 6 (02:38:53):
Group get in.

Speaker 1 (02:38:53):
So the question I leave you with seanis who's the
next astro to go in. We've got Justin Verlanders forty two.

Speaker 6 (02:39:01):
It's him.

Speaker 1 (02:39:02):
He's grinding out with the Giants, but you gotta feel
like it's nearing the end for him. Maybe gives it
one or two more years. And then he got al
Twoves thirty five.

Speaker 5 (02:39:11):
Alto Sachen. Yep, Alve is going to play four or
five more years. Verlander isn't as much as I'm sure
he'd like to. Verlander both should be first ballot Hall
of Famers. The al Twove this twenty seventeen thing, because
I have talked to Hall of Famer that said he
wouldn't at that time he wasn't going to vote for Altuve.
This was like two years after the fact. It's like,
come on now. But regardless, but Verlander's a no brainer.

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He's next, and then he'll be followed by al Tuove
and then there may be a little time in between
for that.

Speaker 1 (02:39:39):
Yeah, it's I mean, we've got to wait a couple
of years. No question who on that? Uh these World
Series teams, do you think potentially the Bragman's, the Springers,
the kore As, those guys.

Speaker 5 (02:39:50):
I don't right now, right as we sit today, I
don't think Springer is not a Hall of Famer, Hallow
really good, Correy is not a Hall of Fame right now,
hall of really good, And depending on Bregman's you know
where the assent goes. I don't think any of them
as we sit today or Hall of famers other than
Altuve and Verlander. But there's still the ways to go

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in some of these careers. And then younger than that,
we'll see.

Speaker 1 (02:40:15):
Sign me up, Cam Smith and Bryce Matthews, You're all
of famers.

Speaker 5 (02:40:19):
Come talk to me after that happens down the road.
You know what, I don't know how many how much
longer does Hater do this? I don't know. It's gonna
take a while too because saves and stuff. But yeah,
it's it's Verlander and al TV and then there's gonna
be a gap and those guys that you just mentioned
are going to have to have some great stuff at
the end of their careers.

Speaker 1 (02:40:36):
And then Hunter Brown when he wins his eighth CIG,
there you go, let's go. That's gonna do it for
the Seawan Salisbury Show. Appreciate sew Dan.

Speaker 6 (02:40:43):
Thank you for joining in.

Speaker 1 (02:40:44):
Brother, Appreciate you, and it'll be back tomorrow. Matt Thomas
and Ross coming your way next right here on sports
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