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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Soulsby. Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury to usc Troup, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthews. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Here's the O two god name sweeper outside strike out
number seven for blue body strands a runner on third base.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Here's the one one two daz breaking ball ripped.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Left field, hooking toward the line and it bangs off
the out of town scoreboard. Myers will score carroten he
stops at third. A run scoring double by Yaner Diaz and.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
His three zip. Here's the one two driven up the
metal base hit Cartini scores.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
They're gonna send Yiner Diaz and the ball is gonna
be late.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Astro score two more on this single by Santez. It's
five nothing.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Here's a two to one from win and that's wrapped
to left field to base it and that's gonna knock
get another run. It's six to nothing on the Astros
sixth head of the inning.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Ray you set Rodder takes off Sway, got a mess,
got him on the slider away and that is the ballgame.
It got interesting late, but the Astros hold on to defeat.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
The Rangers six to five.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Astros maintained a three game lead over the Guardians with
a final wildcard spot and are still a half game
behind Seattle for the AL West League.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
Got a little bit more interesting then we wanted it
to late last night over at dyk In Park, and
with that we say away we go in good morning
here on the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Docs seven to ninety,
Robert Ford giving you the final details of that one
over there where the Astros go into the eighth inning
up six to one, then they came out of the
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eighth inning up six to five, and then you get
an infield hit to start things off. I believe it
was Jonaheim with one out an O two count, which
I mean, geez, Sean, how many of those do we
have to see this year where it's oh two and
you're just like, just don't throw him anything in the zone.
You don't have to just get him on three pitches.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
It's fine in the zone, dude. That's what we do here.
We like throwing the zone.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
Well, if you do, then make sure it's going to
be swung on and missed. I mean, I understand that,
you know that's kind of a two and two situation there,
but I mean, it's just like, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
You don't want to throw cheese right down the middle,
is what you're telling me. I mean it was.
Speaker 7 (02:40):
It was a decent enough pitch. It was low in
the zone. And we found out last night the home
play umpire was not calling that, but gives up that hit.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Low on the zone. Maybe he likes it low on
the zone though apparently he did. Yeah he did.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
Left handed hitters usually do, and they usually do a
lot worse with it. But luckily Jonaheim only hit it
for a single, and then well he was left on
first base, and so was Josh Smith on second, and
thankfully because the Astros pick up their eighty third win
of the season.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Well, who was on third? See what I did there?
Nobody was, well, no, you see what I did? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
Yeah, third base coach, I mean, but not standing on third.
But at least in this case, I mean, just top
to bottom. Last night for the shows, you asked aj
blue Ball to go out there give you some innings.
I mean, I don't know, man, I I would have
sent him back out for another. That guy, that guy
was cruising.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Yeah he uh, he's been really frigging good man. The
guy's got. This is if you're watching him and you're
this organization, aren't you think we got we got a
stud for the future. I am. He just seems to.
And we've had a lot of callers called in and
want blue ball pitching more and more often it being
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one of those guys. And he continues to come through
regularly and he can get some strikeouts too, man, which
I like he can.
Speaker 8 (03:55):
He is.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Uh, he's been in different roles, pretty outstanding for him.
So I'm looking back. I can't wait to see what
he is down the road. But he's been really good
when needed this year. And you could have run him
out there. You could have run him out there for
more won inning the way he was going it felt
like to me. But it's it's the same old story now.
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You don't want to You'll take him anyway you can
get him without complaining, won't we all? But there are
things they need to sew up, and you know they're
one swing of the one swing of the bat away
from it being a different ending. And boy, would that
have been a devastating way to lose a baseball game
Because Mariners hammered, hammered another win out in a big
in big fashion Roley Homer's two more times. I mean
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they're rolling, man. So it's it was every single game.
You have to look, it's going to be like this.
So they've sued themselves winning this series. But because Seattle listen,
they're going to get in the playoffs. Just a question
is when are they playing and how prepared and healthy
will they be. You're battling for the division, but you
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can't think like it. Once again, they've played the last
two games, even though last night was a little too
close for comfort, they've played the last two games as
if Okay, it is single elimination. That's going to take
care of our business and sense urgency. And I thought
the pitching staff, you know what, Sans de la Santos
was pretty good, right. They allowed them to get back
in it little too. The one thing about teams like
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the Mariners and the Rangers in this division is they're
so capable of that two innings that just boom boom,
boom boom. Before you know it, they've hung eight runs
on you. They've got that ability and with some power.
So they I'll tell you, damn well, you were a
little nervous going to the ninth inning, weren't you very exactly,
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So that would have that could have been one of
those who you say, man, how do you overcome this one?
But I love the fact that, see we talked about
it a little latitude. If you're up, if you hang
four or five six runs on somebody and you get
in good pitching and they hit a solo home run
or hit a two run job, you still you still
are in great position. The Astros have just given themselves
that much space. But you know, it's it's two to one,
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it's three to one. Fortunately, last night the game got
away from in the end. They were able to close
it out. But and that's given up five runs in
the last couple of innings. And the key here too
is they didn't score past it was it the fourth
or fifth inning they got their last run. Talking about
the Astros, it was the fourth is when they got
sixth run. Yeah, then they got shut down from then
on the four, five, and six. Yeah, they're going to
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have to you know, have the close out as well.
So take it, man. Well, while we can complain about
the small things right now, alls it is is survival victory.
So you can get in one way or the other.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Well, it's all that matters. I mean, I've said it
numerous times and I'll continue to say it. There is
no college football playoff committee here. There's there's not like
you know, Rob Manfred and a couple of owners and
some former players sit in a conference room somewhere and say, yeah,
you know, let's have the Blue Jays here, let's have
the Tigers here.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
None of that. It's all standings and it's all wins,
and well there's no there's no point system for the
quality you'll win there. There you go. So, I mean,
you know, it's none of that strength to schedule any
of those things.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
That doesn't matter. It's all right, what's your record. Do
you have a better record than somebody else? Well, then
you're in this spot. And the Astros now with the
win last night, moved to eighty three and sixty nine.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I'll tell you what too.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Here's the thing is, if you are able to overtake
the Mariners this weekend, you head into the final week
of the season where it seemed like all was lost,
getting the second seed is not out of the question.
I mean, for right now, Detroit has I believe, just
a two game lead on you, two and a half
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is what they're in front of you right now, for
a chance to be the second seed in the American
League West. So for all of the belly aching and
for all of the worry about injuries, which there's even
more reason to be worried about injuries, especially with what
we found out yesterday about Jordan.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
I mean, the.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
Astros have a chance to put themselves in a pretty
decent position.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yeah, I'm gonna stop right there. I'm greedy, I am
when it comes to winning games and scoring runs. I'll
worry about Detroit when I make sure that I just
just win, you get because right the thing is, you're
not going to be you don't see Detroit again. You're
not going to control one thing unless it's playoffs. You're
not going to control what they do. So if they
win and take care of their business and the key,
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you just you know, go on a streak where you win.
We have twelve games to go going into this, and
you go nine out of twelve, then you give yourself
a chance. But all win the division and if they
get the second seat, that'd be great. After all this,
and I don't know what the number was said, but
gamblers are looking at this saying, oh, the over under
on wins loss. I don't know if it was like
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an eighty six or eighty five or eighty eighteen, it
was eighty six. Well here, here we are, here, we
are sitting at it. I should know too, because I
think I bet it. But I got to go back
and remember if I did ant slip, if it was
the over under on wins this year, and you do
just looking at it right now, you're going to be hovering.
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Unless you go on a great streak and win seven
in a row, then you'd be at ninety and you're safe.
But right now, if you're one of those that had
the over or the under, you're like, okay. And here's
the problem is if you took the end, you're like, well,
I want the under, but I want the Astros to
win the division comfortably. So but with what are we
down to now? Ten games today will be there's there's
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ten to go. It's level ten. Yeah, there you go,
so you know, go take care of it and if
you get the two seed grade. But it is fascinating
after all this that they're in position that, with a
little help, they could be in that position, which is odd.
I still I was asked yesterday last night, and I interviewed.
Somebody on a show said, Astros baseball still being talked
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about with the football, So I said, of course, especially
with the Texans, and two, I said, but it is,
I said, but right now we're all treading a little
lightly winning are offensively? Are they good enough to do this?
Yet with all the injuries. It's fascinating that they're in
this position, and tribute to them. But nobody cares unless
you take care of your business regardless, because the excuse
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is they're not making them, so we should neither. Well,
I mean there's two sides to that too. I mean
there's you know exactly that nobody cares, do you take
care of your business? And then the other one.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
I mean, I've seen it firsthand of a team that's
in a postseason push and you know, you falter down
the last week and a half of the season and
you're out. I mean, twenty eleven Braves are a prime example.
I remember standing outside of the Cardinals clubhouse because we
were going to go in and talk with Lance Berkman,
he was with the Cardinals then, and we're all watching
the Braves Phillies game and Freddie Freeman grounds into a
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double play to end. It ends the Braves season and
sends the Cardinals into the into the postseason. And oh,
by the way, the Cardinals win the World Series that
year over these same Rangers. But last night, with the win,
the Astros now put four games of cushion between them
and the Rangers. And the funny thing is if they
don't overtake the Mariners, which right now it doesn't seem
like that's going to be an easy proposition because the
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Mariners just don't lose. I mean, they literally really have
won their last ten games. They're ten to zero in
their last ten games. So you'd like to see them
start to lose maybe one or two here in Kansas
City and then kind of roll that into Houston here
and you're able to take care of business against them.
But I mean the Cleveland Guardians now or the team
that you're kind of trying to hold off, and now
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the Astros, by the way, have the second wild card spot.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
They're half a game in front of the Red Sox
at this moment.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
So just I mean, it's the age old adage, Sean,
you win games, everything else takes care of itself.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
You can't go anywhere. You're not moving forward if you're
not winning, regardless of what the other team does, because
if they lose too, you're staying in the same spot.
So you've got to win to give yourself a chance.
I know that sounds well sewn. That's pretty obvious. Well,
as we always say on this show, the team that
scores the most runs wins one hundred percent of the time.
Oh say that again. The team that scores the most
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runs wins one hundred percent of the time. Team scores
the ghost runs, yeah, wins. And I really put out
Brian loves He said, listen, he really like one of
his great He goes, here's with my great analysis. I
underlined it three times. Oh yeah, he's put exclamation points.
He said, the team that scores the most runs, interesting
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wins one hundred percent of time. And I said, you
sure they win one hundred percent of the time. He said, yeah,
one hundred percent of time.
Speaker 8 (12:18):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
So there you it's a it's a staff that you
can't get anywhere else. There you go, Well, that's what
we do here.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
We're a full service operation here on the Shawn Salisbury Show.
You know that every weekday morning six to ten am.
That's us right here, all right, So we'll talk a
lot of Astros here seven one three, two one two
five seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Also too, is there.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Somebody over on Kirby that believes the team is so
close to being complete? We'll get that in here over
the course of the next four hours. Is Dana Brown
going to join us coming up at nine point thirty
for his weekly visit? But coming up next you saying
one thing, but then you're pressed and you're saying something else.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
We'll discuss that here.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
It is the Shawn Salisbury Show on a Western Wednesday,
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Let the celebration start more.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Ninety yesterday, delivering the news. We had told you that
the Astros would have more information on Jordan's ankle. That
went at as Ross said yesterday, at a ninety degree angle,
which I'm sure you've twisted an ankle, Sean. I'm sure
you've done all of those things.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Yeah, you won right now. The needs fused together, and
I've had torn ligaments in my ankle and playing sports
in high school. I know exactly what he's going through
and rolled over on it and it's not fun.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
So I mean, do you like unintentionally get the Scottie Scheffler,
you know, like where it's just like, man, his ankle's
not supposed to do that.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
No, I know it's not supposed to Yeah, but the
problem is with Scheffler what his ankle's not supposed to do?
That ends up about three twenty five sitting in the
middle of the fairway or a shot a five iron
from two thirty to three feet. The rest was yeah.
And I had a high ankle spraying before getting ready
to play Elway at Stanford, I had, but we had
a bye week. It took me two weeks icing it
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and doing it every day. I'm talking about good mind's
a high ankle, but just talking about it round that
part of the body, right, and I don't know for
Jordan if it's lower high regardless, and taped it up
and then spatted your shoe went in and and we
kicked their ass just as a sidebar, which is good.
At Stanford. I was like, when I can say we
beat Elway, which is every time I played him, when
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you shook hands with el Wade to say, hey man,
nice teeth, uh oh, I said, uh, I loved I
loved you as a horse on mister d. John's one
of the best people of all time.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Man.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
But I saw, I did the feeling, and it took
the two weeks and even when I got into the game,
tape job, high ankle tape job and the spat. But
we had a week off, so it was two weeks
to play in a football game. And I don't have
severe Mine was fairly severe. Fortunately was on my front
left ankle, so my back plant ankle opposite of him
at the plate was okay, but a little tender. But
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you know, you deal with it, and then then adrenaline
ca and you just say, hey, man, a high ankle sprains,
A high ankle spran's taped up. If it gets hurt worse,
then you're just going to deal with it. So but
you ain't missing that game. And I would imagine the
closer they get, but you want him for the postseason,
and now you're getting to a point and I would
imagine they're even going to be I don't know if
Testes are maybe testy about this because it's been bothered.
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I imagine the situation they're in. I know you want
to hear from the situation they're in, but they keep
meeting the Rangers and extend themselves and that they're probably
not going to rush him back. But it's like, well,
do we wait one more game or two because get
in because you're going to want him at full strength
because the last thing you want to come back and
he reaggravates it next thing, you know. Although you know
how I am, I hate day. If you're hurt, you play,
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if you're injured, you don't. That's how I feel. So
his must be an injury. But it's just been a
hell of a bummer year for him.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
It definitely has been. And you waited all this time
to try to get him back. Now you finally do,
and this happens for sure. Joa spotty yesterday talking in
the Astros dugout before the game, just how severe is
this injury.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
He's got a pretty significant ankle spring, so this is
going to keep him out for for a while. Let's
not get into days, weeks any of that. We are
going to take one day at a time, but this
is going to take some time to heal. We don't
have that many days left on the regular season, so
we are going to He's in there getting some treatment,
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getting some work done, so you know, hopefully it's not
He's not out for.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
For a long period of time.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It's just a point of that point.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
Yeah, you know we need him in there, right, But
those other things that we can't control. You know, it's
a it's a freak accident happens on a baseball field.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
But you know, but that's not what we what we
need right now.
Speaker 9 (16:43):
But we do have guys here that on the stand
of the situation that we in, we got we got talent,
We got guys who want it. We got guys that
can fight and and and and get us through this
do this stretch that I expect those guys to do
just that? Out did I just what did you just hurt?
I say, this is going to take some time.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I know, I'm wondering for your roster.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
You're gonna play men?
Speaker 9 (17:04):
Sure that listen, one day at a time. Chat Okay,
I'm not gonna give you days weeks. What we're gonna
do next, He's gonna have to set down and wait.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
Okay, all right, So Chandler Rome, all of us have
to sit down and wait a couple of things there.
I think three things. Number one pretty significant. Number two
A be out a while and then a very fair
follow up by Chandler Rome of all right, well're you
gonna put him on the IL? And then you get
the response from Joe A spotted there. Did you not
hear what I just said? Well, no, we did hear
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what you just said. You said's pretty significant now for
a while. So the follow up is very fair to
ask are you putting this guy on the IL?
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Yeah? But and it is. And Chandler Roam does a
great job. And one thing about him, he's in there
every talk about the grind, the ashles on. He's on
the grind too, every single day, as is the Brian mctaggarts.
The people that are round it every fact. Okay, right,
there's a bunch of them. I'm gonta leave anybody out.
You know who you are. And it's great because they
give information that we wouldn't otherwise get. And I love
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Chandler Rome's approach because he's looking for answers the why.
But both can be right. First of all, this city
can't bitch about Joe as spot is lack of fire
if they don't like it. And then when he gets
a little little red ass and I actually liked it,
and I don't think Chandler Rome was offended by it. No, Chandeler,
Rome's plenty tough, plenty mentally tough, and he knows it.
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Sometimes when you ask a tough question, which we got
to go through every Wednesday with Dana Brown, that you
don't know what the response is going to be. But
who cares. He's dealt with a lot of time. Yeah,
who cares. It's not that big hang on, it's not
that big a deal. It isn't you're asking for a
fiery manager. Then when he gives a little spicy answer,
you don't think he's pissed you. You don't think he's
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bothered that the Jordan's heard again on a freak accident.
You don't think there's more pressure on him than there
is on us. Now, listen, I don't defend everything Joe said.
I don't agree with everything the handle, but we also
complain about well, who knows what's gonna happen with his injury.
He'll hopefully sooner than later. I think you should see
this story between the lines. When the questions asked, he said,
it's a significant injury. So if you're thinking he's going
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to be back in a day or two, or a week.
He's not. They're at least telling me now is we've
been begging for them to be a little more specific.
Significant is a key word here. This is a significant
injury we don't know and the reason why they're not
putting him on the aisle. Which was a great question
by Chandler Roman a follow up regardless of what Joe said,
you're with her each other one hundred if your wife
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or girlfriend response and you live with her at the
end of five years later, we mad because well, you
get a little short with her, she gets a little
short with you. Oh well get over it and move on.
It's a great question the response. He had answered it earlier,
and he just wanted to follow up for purposes of
making sure we know where we are. And it was
a great follow up, a little spice side. It didn't
sound to me like Joe was pissed. It sounded like
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he had a little spice saying, listen, we don't have
any other answers, and it's good both ways, and it
can be right. So I don't want to hear anybody
bitch about it. Well, how dare him?
Speaker 8 (19:58):
No?
Speaker 5 (19:59):
And I'll bet you if you Chandler Roam Chandler Rome
would say he had no problem with it. Joe covers,
he covers. Joe's out there every day, as is Chandler Roam.
So it's good both ways. I don't mind the fire.
And everybody's complaining, Well, they don't tell us about injuries.
This we bitch and complain every day about Well, can
he be more forthright? He said it's significant and it's
going to be out longer than we hope. Basically, and
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I paraphrase that part of it. So, what's the deal.
Your Daine ain't coming back in this regular season. I'm
just telling you he's not. That's You've got ten games
to go. Significant ankle injuries don't just heal overnight. Now
he may come to you and say, my threshold pin
can handle it. I'm eighty percent judging from a guy
who's been there, it's going to be difficult to do.
So just hope it gets right. And if it says
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it's day to day, this is day to day. A
high ankle sprain is literally day to day. I don't
know what else we want to hear. Do you want
it to be specific? And sod I went in there
and looked at the images of myself, and I could
tell you this, there's a slight little thing with this legament.
It's a it's a it's a high ankle sprain, or
it's an ankle sprain. I mean, how specific what do
we need? Are we just fishing for bs now to
try and say, well, see they're lying to us, Akin,
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nobody's lying to you. You're uncertain Now if all of
a sudden a week later and it's the swelling's gone down,
I say, you know what in his training and rehab
that we see a little ligament damage, A little ligament damage.
Is this you can approach it the same way. Sometimes
a little ligament damage you can still play on. We'll
see a week from now or ten days from now.
It's significant. It's a bummer, and you got to go
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forward like you're not gonna happen if you get him,
to get him. But why are we up in arms
about a spot? As answer? And why are we up
in arms about? There was nothing disrespectful about his question,
You guys beg We all do for a little spice
from Joe, and you got it from a guy who
can quite frankly handle it. Channel Rome's plenty tough. So
when I when I hear people, well you better get after.
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What's Dana Brown gonna tell us any different today? He
can't tell us any different. What was he gonna say? Well,
Joe said it's significant. I say it's significant. It's a
day to day thing. We don't know. We're not putting
him on the IL yet because well roster situation. But
we're just trying to figure out maybe we get him
in four day to day means it could be three days,
it could be twenty five days. So I don't know.
We are always looking for something that bothers us if
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Chandler Rome's not bothered by, which I doubt he is.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I, like I said, he knows
the business and he's damn good at it. And Joe
a spot is you know how many million questions has
he been asked this year about an injury? And rightfully so,
they've been hurt to day to day. Man, we're gonna
do our best. We'll hopefully get him back. And now
it's like, this is a significant ankle injury and it
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was a freak accident. Well what else you wanted to say? Well,
what are you guys looking for? Well, what are you
looking for. They want a game that will bitch about
it because they gave up five runs and almost lost it,
and then Joe Spott. It gives you a little spice
on an answer. Media tough, media can handle it. I
can handle anything, Dana Brown tells me. Chandel Rome can
handle anything. Joe's Spott has dealt with those guys respectfully
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every day, as has the media dealt with him respectful.
It's easy to be respectful to Joey's a great guy
and a good manager, and he's got a team that
has zero business being in first place or close to
it by half a game out of first place. Zero
and about eighty percent of the season they've been at
first place. Yes, there's a lot of there's a lot
of warts on him. Yes, this is going to be
a struggle, but I'll be damned most places we'd be
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calling for coaching. Dude, you've been through forty seven injuries
and a couple of them do your best players and
you lost two of your corner best players in the
offseason and you're still here. You've lost Garcia again. You're
trying mccolors isn't the same. You're trying to get Javier
the same Fromber's gone into Hell in the handbasket. Ten
of his last starts, nine of them, and he hasn't
be Oh, by the way, we're bothered that he gets
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a little spicy on an injury because he's been asked
five thousand times stop the say we asked out people
to be so sensitive and be well, you get their feelings.
If Jaylor's feelings aren't hurt, nobody should be, and I
don't think they are. He's damn good and he should
have asked it, and he did. He reiterated it. I
told just day to day so and quite frankly, he
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doesn't owe us. He doesn't owe us as fans or
media to dig deep down into the medical hip of
history about if Ord. How the hell would he know?
Doctors don't you. I can tell you I've done it.
Doctors have no idea on a sprained ankle, how long
it's gonna take a lot of it's going to be
incumbent upon the number forty four, which we ask all
the time, what's his threshold of pain? Maybe we got
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to start questioning that more than we got to start
questioning the answer to a coach who really has got
to manage a baseball team, and he's not doctor a spada,
and quit judging Dana Brown by not telling you everything.
He doesn't. He comes on here to talk baseball and
he's got to be a medical report every day, and
we're gonna ask him and you're gonna get the same
answer that Joe Gaden. It's called taking care of it
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in house. What do you wanted to say? You ord
on to be back tomorrow, and if he's not, everybody's pissed.
You're going to be back in fifteen days. If he's
back sooner, they're a hero. If he doesn't play anymore,
well why didn't they tell us? Because guess what on
an ankle sprain, you don't friggin know. So what I
want more spice from a spoty? He gives you more
spice and fan what way? Joe can't say that, he's
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sure as hell can and any of us that have
been through it don't like it either. What do you
want to hear from him? And because he was a
little testy, A hundred guys are beating each other up
in the clubhouses in baseball at this stage of the season.
Trust me, I've seen it in football and they go
out and play. What are you supposed to do? Yeah, man,
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let me get my medical report. Doctor a spot here.
I'll make sure me and Dana bro slaw a role
and Chandler Roam asked the right question. God, Chandler Roan
didn't wake up this morning, madam. Ifin Joe didn't like
me anymore? Why because he knows the business. But the
sensitivity and worry about an answer to an injury. Your
dun's hurt. He's in a friggin walking boot. What's that?
Tell you?
Speaker 7 (25:42):
A couple of different answers to give you, and I
will share those because I do think that there is
a counterpoint to what you just brought up there, a
couple of them, so we'll do that.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
It's a counterpoint. If you're looking for something to bitch about,
that's the counterpoint. And sometimes when it comes to the
answers of an injury, we're always looking for something to
bitch out. You ain't getting your on in the next
five games, so deal with it. It is not wow.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
I just I think there's a ton to work with there,
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Speaker 7 (27:52):
I'll just go ahead and start it off with the
first part, and a lot of that is also.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
On the Astros organization.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
And I think that maybe a little bit of that
from Joe with some frustration of have to keep answering
these questions where he's got to be the middleman and
he's got to be the one that wears it. Like
I've said a numerous times, it's the most pointless exercise
possible by anybody out there to get upset with Dana
Brown for coming out and talking about injuries, or for
Joe Aspata for their explanation of it when they're the middleman.
(28:23):
They're being told at what to say there by the
medical people. Well, what bothered you about his answer? What
bothered me about it is exactly what he's done in
the past. Jordan Alvarez when he first went out with
the hand injury. Oh, it's up to jord On you know.
When he gives us a thumbs up that he's good
to go, he's going to be back in there less
than a week later.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Oh he's got a fracture on his hand. Guys.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Sorry, Like I mean, I understand that there's some information
that maybe there's been some wires crossed over there and
maybe the wrong information has been passed out at times.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
I get it. It's the human element that's fine, But
like for the franchises do this the Kyle Tucker last year,
like this is more of an organizational than it is Joe.
So I'm kind of doing what I just against this
second ago. I get that, But at the same time,
though too a very fair follow up by Chandler. I
don't think he was mad at Chandler rome he following
he wasn't. Think how frustrated you get when company comes
(29:11):
on there and can't make their point. You've been on
the show since March. He's been doing this for two years,
one hundred and sixty games a year. Somebody will call
in and take an extra minute and frustrated because they can't.
As you say land the plane, Think how frustrated you
are in just one show and you're dealing with the
guy who's had to do with fifty injuries, dealing with
a team and getting that. I think he understands the question.
(29:33):
But the frustration. Your guy, Brian Kelly at LSU does
it every week. You never get frustrated. But I could
keep rolling through if you want. That's all you need,
right right, So my point is is that you're frustrated. Yes,
it's an organization, like every organization does this. I've been
a part of them. Watch it what I just and
do you do realize in the medical world that sometimes
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a sprain. Listen, if you were dumb enough last year,
anybody in this city, and I'm talking to all of you.
If you were dumb enough to buy into did a
bruce keeps the guy out on your shin for seventy
some games, then you're dumber than the belief that it
was true. Now, I've never seen a football player, as
(30:17):
I've said, have ten days off when they took well,
sometimes bone bruises. Last time. Yeah, no, bone bruce keeps
a running back out of a bone bruise on your
shin for ten days, let alone seventy games. So the
second they said it, oh he's out ten eights, Oh
it's fifteen. The second you got past that fifteen day threshold,
(30:38):
that was never a bone bruise. If if that was
a bone bruise, the softest player in the history of
Major League Baseball was Kyle Tucker. If that was a
bone bruce. And we know he's not because he's been
pretty damn durable as a player. You knew right then
it was some kind of fracture. We find out fifty
to fifty five games and oh it's fracture. It's not
a bone bruce. But how did you buy into anybody? Well, listen,
(31:02):
it's par for that. I can write the script for you.
What they're gonna tell you or done? Maybe out till
next year with this ankle? Who the hell? And you
know what six weeks from now may require surgery. They
told us that once his name could have had his
hamstring ripped apart. Parentis and we're gonna get surgery and
see you next spring. The guy might play in the
regular season. See how that? And that? That's why do
(31:25):
you think doctors? Hey man, he blew out his knee.
It was a successful surgery. He've never heard him say
it was unsuccessful. And guess what else?
Speaker 8 (31:31):
I say?
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Unsuccessful means he's dead. Guess what else? Well, how long
is he gonna be? About? Oh, nine to seventeen, nine
to eighteen months? Thanks appreciate it. So we get a
nine month a cushion to protect the doctors from saying,
well else, see I told you it was nine to eighty.
Much just depends on his pain and how hard he rehabs.
So with this, I just I'm frustrated too with the injury.
(31:52):
We're more frustrated with the injury and how to handle it.
But you get a general manager that comes on here,
Joe Spotty gets a little testy one hundred and fifty
two games in because another his star is heard again.
And a follow up question, which was perfect by Chandler
rome he should have asked, it's great and he's tough
enough to handle it. He's less bothered, I'm sure than
the rest of the people are. But Joe getting a
little tessy. I actually would walk out of the saying
(32:15):
I saw some fire in his damn belly about this.
He's frustrated as hell, just like the fans are. So
I just don't understand. We think that we're privileged enough
as fans and media to know every answer to everything.
You're never gonna get him ever, ever, especially when it
comes to injury, you're never gonna get him. First off,
they're holding out hope that you get a guy back faster.
If they came out said Jordan's done for the playoffs,
(32:36):
what's the fan base say right now? What's the fan
base say? No, we're done? Wow? I mean they've been
saying that with or without you, or it's okay, So
why do you so? He says, listen, significance your answer.
Look for the keyword. There's always a keyword in it.
Look for the SIGNIFICA I told you that after one
interview we did with Dana, there was something that was said,
I can't remember about the injury. I came out to
you and I said it during a break. I said,
(32:57):
I'm telling you right now that word's the key. You
won't see the guy for I might have been Paradus's hamstring.
I don't know who. We can't remember what it was.
I said, Oh, you ain't seeing him for a long time.
And it's the same thing here. I don't know when
you're gonna see him. And it will come back to
if it's just a sprain, it is going to be
on his rehab and how Jordan feels it ain't gonna
be on Joe spot. So I hate the injury reports
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because I'd rather just talk squit baseball. But they've had
so many of them. You got to asked the question,
and Chandler was spot on. But I have zero issue.
In one hundred and sixty two game schedule, you battle
with people all the time, and it wasn't even that.
If that's as mad as Joe gets, be grateful because
I got news for you could run across somebody else
that would have jumped up and walked out and wouldn't
(33:41):
give you the next day the guy that was previously
in his spot. So it just we just we get
to this point where it's like the manager of the
team just lost his best player again. Chandler Rom understands that,
and it was the right question follow up to be
asked to know, well, what are we gonna do roster spot.
We're not doing anything right now, just spot because day
to day, because if the big fella comes back, we
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got to play him. That's all you need to know
about this.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
I just say, I just think that there's pretty wide
gap between pretty significant and out a while too. Then
this is a day to day thing. I just I
don't see the connection between the two between out for
a while and significant. Yeah, what's no, No, I'm talking
about between both I'm grouping out for a while and
pretty significant together along with it's a day to day thing.
I don't see the I do not see the connection
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between the two.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
The data is significant. The day to day is to
keep everybody kind of hanging on. Don't be shocked if
you wake up and says they need another body. If
you wake up by tomorrow or this weekend and they
put them on the IL do not be shocked. They
do not because maybe right when it happened, they're thinking, Okay,
how are we going to handle thist Let's wait two
days and see and put them on the aisle. When
they know that, well, we need bodies, man, We're gonna
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need another bat and that's when you'll know. So yes,
Significant tells me I L day to day tells me
they're holding out hope. In the next day or two
it happened. But why is that bother you? I think
that you could by just his answers alone. Can't you
tell what he's saying, man, day to day, we're trying
to handle the day to day, which is which is
a stock answer that managers are going to give you.
(35:12):
Since a guy hasn't been put on I L. You're
hoping was there. You're always hoping for the miracle quick recovery.
So right, there you go. So, so why is it
still bothering? What do you think the answer is? The
answer is when he says significant and out for a while,
don't play the day to day thing. That's the holdout
hope I'm talking about for you. But if you're used
to the same answer all the time, why is it
(35:33):
bother you when you get the same answer, would you
think you're gonna have some epiphany and they're gonna all
a sudden start talking openly about injuries and tell you
you know what, and what if he said it's what
if he said it's very significant and he played in
two days, Well why didn't you tell us it was
day to day?
Speaker 7 (35:46):
Because you're borrowing trouble at that point. You're creating more
of an issue where it's going to be asked about
day and.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Day and day and day and day again. But well,
if now when he says it's day to day, somebody
can ask him today, how's or you're on field and
you should and we will and if he opened up,
that's okay. But I just you're trying to be logic
here when it comes to injuries. That's the thing. You
ain't getting logic, dude. And you have it all year,
and you didn't last year, you did in the year before,
and you won't next year. You're not getting logic when
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it comes to this. Everybody holds out hope it's a
miracle fix, and everybody knows when you say it, don't
look at the day to day when it says significant
look more towards that air on the side of longer
with this team, because every time we wonder it's longer,
and then be surprised and blessed if it isn't. Because man,
you talk about baring trouble. If we're hanging on that
every day, dude, you might as well go and immerse
(36:34):
yourself in and check into a in service or in
help mental institution, because it's going to set you on
a couch every day going crazy over how to handle this.
What's the answer going to be? Bottom line? We got
to play nine guys out there, and if you're on
eight one of them, somebody better step their ass up.
Pretty simple. Well, the astros were able to do that
last night.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
One guy in particular able to really step up for
this team. We'll talk about him next. Brian, see you
right there, We'll get you involved. You want to join
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There are now four games in front of them in
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Let's fire it up on the phone lines this morning.
Roger gonna lead us off.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
Good morning Roger, Good morning, guys.
Speaker 11 (41:58):
I'll make you short and sweet. The people are different, man,
I don't know why people keep asking the same questions.
People are different. People have a different, different threshold of pain.
You're not the big guy. He rolled his ankle. It's
gonna take a minute, man, it's gonna take him minute.
It's not gonna be just maybe maybe a couple of
weeks ahe. It depends on the the person.
Speaker 12 (42:17):
Man.
Speaker 11 (42:18):
People act. They've never done anything in their life, they
never played sports and rolls an ankle.
Speaker 8 (42:22):
We've all done it.
Speaker 11 (42:23):
We've all done it. It's took it a while. We
never went right back on the course and Okay, we're good.
Speaker 13 (42:27):
No, Man, that.
Speaker 11 (42:28):
Stuff takes a while. Man depends on the person.
Speaker 8 (42:30):
Man.
Speaker 11 (42:30):
So I don't know why people just can't just you know,
think about it like that and just you know, people
are different.
Speaker 8 (42:36):
Man.
Speaker 11 (42:36):
Hey, this season's gonna go the way it goes. They're
doing everything they can man uh to split split taping, bubblegum. Man,
They're doing what they can. I love AJ Blueball, that guy.
That guy's a real deal. I hope they can stretch
him out later on. Is he a starting pitcher or
he's just a better relief guy, or is he gonna closer?
Speaker 8 (42:54):
I don't know what.
Speaker 11 (42:54):
But he's got some good stuff.
Speaker 8 (42:56):
Man.
Speaker 11 (42:56):
I like, I like what I see for that guy.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 11 (42:59):
But yeah, sure, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 7 (43:04):
See you man. Good landing there, Roger, you stuck it.
Good job. AJ blue Ball. I mean that's somebody that
I did want to talk about, and I mean we
talked about a little bit early on in the show.
Three innings out of him last night. He's able to
pass it off to Colton Gordon, who's able to give
you one run ball over the next three innings and
then the Astros only trouble they ran into was in
(43:26):
the eighth inning and Innial de la Santos, who's been
really good for this team, when he couldn't get that
final out of the inning, and then you had to
bring on Brian to bray you for an extended save,
which he picks up his seventh of the season. But
I mean, blue Ball is a guy that when I
heard because at the time, Sean you knows doing stuff
around the house. So I had Robert and Steve On
on the speaker while I was doing that, and I
(43:49):
hear Colton Gordon warming up in the bullpen, and I'm like, why, seriously, why,
Because I mean, you want blue Ball to be a
starter for you eventually, and as a matter of fact,
I think he is the starter moving forward. He is
going to be in the rotation next year like that.
That is as sure as you're born. That is going
to happen. Fifty pitches out of him last night, thirty
three of them for strikes. So you want to talk
(44:10):
about efficiency. But I threw this out on Twitter last
night too, and I fully believe it. He's got some
Hunter Brown in them.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
I mean a little piss and vinegar. Yeah, I'm okay
with that. Yeah, I'm one hundred percent okay. Well, you
want to go down a list of ten guys of
your current or former ones that have it. We can
start naming him from nineteen seventy to twenty twenty five,
and they all have one thing in common. They would
(44:37):
just assume fight you as strike you out when they're
on the mound. We know who those guys are. We'll
walk through it. You think, let me just use a name.
You think Royal's Walt wanted to fight you a little bit,
You think he had a little bit of that in him.
I'm just I'm just grabbing names, you know, Nolan Ryan here,
I mean, we can go on and Rod Lemons, the Lemons,
(44:58):
Pedro Pettit, Andy Pettitt. What about? And you don't have
to just throw one hundred to have a little of that.
You could throw ninety three and still be that guy
a little bit. Oh, there is no. He just did
it a different way. He carved you up more ways.
He did a list sixty mile an hour, one ninety seven,
ninety five and then smirk at you and give you
something around the back and under the legs. And and
(45:19):
and then hit a home run on you when you
were able to hit. So yeah, I'm okay with that.
And you know what, the sooner you can establish that
and make sure that your own players know and other
players know that when that guy steps in the on
the mound, go ahead and try to dig in. I'm
all for it. I'm here for it. I think he's
not only got a great future, but I think he
is a starter and will be in the rotation because
(45:40):
you're going to lose your frontline starter at the top
next year, so you're going to need meaning Fromber he's
going to be gone, so you got to not name
a second there. I was like, can Shaan see the future?
Hunter Brown's gonna get a hurt the guy you ran
out there first this year, which was Fromber, So I
get you. It's but Blueball will be a great addition,
and right now he may be big a key with
(46:01):
his versatility moving forward this year, you're gonna need him
where he is. You may need him in the starting rotation.
He may he's gonna have to give you what he
did last night, possibly a lot of pitchers and efficient
ones of that, and give yourself put you in a
position to win the game. And again they've been pining
for him and you're getting him. The guy's really good
and Steve Sparks has raved about him from day one.
Speaker 7 (46:23):
Getting to the postseason is the biggest charge right now.
And you're a half game back of the Mariners. As
I mentioned, you're in position to be able to make
the postseason. A guy like him is incredibly valuable in
the postseason. Where you run into trouble in the second
or third inning, you can't wait around, you can't fall
behind for nothing in that spot, you're down by two,
well you better keep it right there. And he's a
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guy that can do that.
Speaker 8 (46:44):
Well.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
He can also throw you five innings if you need him. Hey,
he can And I mean, oh second, any man's getting sideways.
We don't have time to waste or down forward to nothing.
Guy can't throw a strike. Bam. Guy comes in and
you're now you're now it's the sixth year and you're
six and two thirds into the thing, and he's kept
the score the same as it was when he came in.
That kind of guy, not giving free passes, striking people out.
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You want to talk about grind and doing what he's doing.
So he's a and you want to talk about some
of the guys have been invaluable this year, from him
and King and Jason Alexander, whether you're a starter, bullpen guy,
there's a ton of them that they're versatility and they
will never get the credit nationally that they deserve. But
in truth, if there was a string or a thread
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they were hanging on with all these injuries, the pitching
staff is make sure they put an extra that they've
they've added an extra twine to that rope because they
have kept you in it. Without them, they'd be ten
games out of first place. They absolutely have been last nights.
I mean, that was the funny thing about it, where
you're just like, all.
Speaker 7 (47:45):
Right, so we to the phase of the season where
you start hitting, but then the pitching starts to falter
a little bit. I mean it started creeping into my
mind a little bit in that eighth inning where I mean,
Della Santos has been so good for you and you're like, oh,
that's why he's here. Okay, Now I get it because
I asked my buddy, who does the pre and post
for the Braves, I go, hell, what are they getting?
He goes, somebody it's not very good. I was like, oh, okay, okay,
(48:10):
but you've been really good for the Astros.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
Yes, last night notwithstanding, and those can happen. They happened.
It's a regular occurrence around the league. Good pictures to
have nights. You just don't want three in a row. No,
you don't want to do that. You know, at this
time of year, you want that to be the aberration,
not the norm.
Speaker 8 (48:28):
So but.
Speaker 5 (48:30):
Take the win anyway you can get it. And they
were able to stave them off. But which allows you
to do that is by posting six runs early and
then getting pretty solid pitching until the end. You test
yourself too. I mean, we got six to two, then
it's six, three and sixth, and then you're thinking, okay,
what's going to happen here? And in the ninth inning
you you put them out of their misery and you've
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taken two and you're about a game away from eliminating
them from the playoff picture. Because it's going to be
maybe too tough to overcome.
Speaker 7 (48:59):
I was gonna say, if you win the night and
they're five games back of you, no matter what, with
nine games to go, that's you have to completely fall
flat on your face for them to be able to get.
Speaker 5 (49:10):
In well, if they are, if they if we're able
to that, not only they fall flat on their face.
The whole offseason will be spent on what happened down
the stretch to the Astros. If that were to happen,
it's not gonna happen. They take care of the the
Rangers tonight, the Rangers will be home watching football the
rest of the year before it's over, and they just
it's just it'd be too much to overcome because the
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Astros aren't gonna lose seven in a row or eight
in a row. That's just not gonna happen. Even if
they go five hundred, the Rangers would have to win
them all. And so they're putting themselves in a buying
This is a huge game for them to now after this,
now you focus on moving up the ladder and getting
the division and trying to move yourself into the two seed.
But all you got you win, and let's see what happens.
Speaker 7 (49:51):
Like I said, when takes care of itself. John wants
to wain and good morning, John, Good morning.
Speaker 12 (49:58):
I had a question for you.
Speaker 11 (50:00):
I'll answer, then I'll hang up and listen to what
I say, and.
Speaker 14 (50:04):
But my question was, you know, like whenever there's an
outfielder and like the ball is hit over their head,
sometimes they look at the ball I act like they're
gonna catch it just to duke the runner. And me,
I think the third base coach on that Jordan, I
think it was he did. I think it was a
go all the way. I don't think he was really
trying to stop him because I think he was running
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down third base. The coach a gownded line with his
hands up just to duke the outfielder. Because if he
really wanted to stop Jordan, I think he would have
stayed on third base with his hands up. But him
running down line, I think he will sign duke the outfolder.
That I mean, I don't mind him sending him. But
I'm just saying he was saying he was telling him
to stop. I think he had Yordan going the old time.
That's all I gotta say. I don't want to hear what
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your opinion is.
Speaker 7 (50:48):
Thank you, all right, So that's not when that happened.
The ball that Jordon scored on was a tapper back
to the picture and then the pitcher threw it away
and Tony Paris, Chica, did try to stop him. He's
down the third base line, both hands up in the air,
almost like a touchdown signal, like hey, big fella, don't
continue to run. Lock on at third base right there.
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As far as the deaking goes, I mean, that's a
trick as old as as time in baseball, both you know,
infielders will do it all the time. You'll have guys
that you know throw down the second base on a
stolen base. We'll look out to the outfield being like, hey,
where's the ball, where's the ball, just to see if
the guy's going to try to step off second base,
you tag him, he's out.
Speaker 5 (51:28):
Ronald Acuna Junior did it the other day. I think
he did it in the Sunday game to the to
the Astros where they've got that brick wall out there
and right field at Truest Park, and he did kind
of like he was shoring up like he was going
to catch the ball, then quickly turned around to get
the ricochet off the ball off the wall to then
throw it back in which we found out Friday night.
You don't run on that guy. Gamesmanship, it's okay or
(51:51):
none wrong with that. Who was he was he bummed
by it? Is that what he was?
Speaker 1 (51:54):
No?
Speaker 7 (51:54):
It just I mean about he said that he didn't
think that Paris Cheka was really trying to hold him up.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Yes he was, Oh yeah he was.
Speaker 7 (52:02):
He was halfway down the third base line, as third
base coaches will do again, both hands in the air
like stop.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
And he still made it go and he still made
it standing up right. Yeah. Then it makes you want
to well, if he his slid just for the hell
of it, would he be would there be in and
maybe it hurts his knee? I don't know. I hope no,
Maybe there's nothing right right, Yeah, it just it's crazy
how those things work. But yeah, when they're when the
third base coaches they're going to half to three quarters
down the line and get in your vision and you
see the arms going in the air, it's you listen,
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it's unfortunate circumstances with that, which has been the case
for these guys all year long. With you know, it's
almost like you say, okay, twenty twenty five baseball season
has been how do we overcome another injury? Not how
do we overcome the other team? How do we overcome
another injury? And then you get both because you're trying
to fight and scratch to win a division and get
into the playoffs and be playing your best baseball in
the playoffs. Listen, piece meals the name of the game.
(52:50):
Here with them right now, and you've got to hope
you can carve them out and that your resilience pays
off in the postseason. Here's hoping that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (52:57):
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As the Astros win last night over the Rangers six
to five, there's still a half game back of the Mariners,
because well damnit, Seattle just won't lose. They win last
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night twelve to five over the Royals in Kansas City
and Jordan Alvarez out with a pretty significant ankle injury.
Not on the il just EyeT by the way too
today on Western Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (55:40):
It's good timing too. I didn't know that it's International
Country Music Day. So isn't there a day for everything?
There is? There is? Maybe there's I wonder, why why
don't we do that? Why don't we have to have
something to say? Every day? Well, I mean, you know
the rules.
Speaker 7 (55:55):
I mean, everybody's a hero and everybody has to be
recognized in some sort of way. So I mean, soon enough,
there's gonna be a national Seawan day. Soon enough, there
will be in a national emmanual day like recognized day,
I recognize these nuts on your forehead day. God Is
asked tripley, he did.
Speaker 5 (56:16):
You really did? What kind of platter do you? You?
Speaker 8 (56:18):
Even?
Speaker 7 (56:18):
You even repeated yourself. I'm not falling for that one,
but you even repeated yourself.
Speaker 5 (56:23):
I did. Yeah, I simply said it. Said it again. Yeah,
you did?
Speaker 1 (56:27):
You?
Speaker 5 (56:27):
I said it. You said it. I said, fine, take that,
take the w You're fine, and Triple give you the
right hand er. I mean I can go home and
go to see it. Yeah, send you to the sheets.
All right, all right, hey, I need just give me
some blue ball before you go. All right, that can
sound right, Yeah that if you're just listening. You don't
know who blue ball is. Say if somebody Sean wants
(56:49):
some blue balls. Somebody just tuned in and you know
they're just turning on the woodway or somewhere and they're
just kind of like, man, did I pick the right
show today? Yeah? I don't know. Well, tell them to
get lines. A few people got those. No, he's he's
got some not gonna tell you what. He's got some stones.
I promise does he have that?
Speaker 7 (57:06):
And he he definitely lets him drop out there. All right,
So Nicky Smokes is one of the guys over at barstool.
He had an interesting question, Nicky smokes.
Speaker 5 (57:17):
Nicky smokes.
Speaker 7 (57:18):
Yeah, so he's he's one of the crew over there
at barstool, and he had an interesting question. Did they
have tailgates at the Roman Colosseum?
Speaker 5 (57:27):
Yeah, it is beheaded people. Well, I mean it was hitting.
It was also up to the emperor at that point. Yeah,
I would imagine you may like go out, like start
queueing the barbecue and stuff up.
Speaker 7 (57:36):
Hey, Lucius is going to have a party right there
at his chariots.
Speaker 5 (57:40):
Yeah, you know who's who's bringing the line Zachariah, Who's
who's bringing the I don't know. Some sort of fish
they were having. You don't think they had broughts? Probably not.
I mean, I mean I don't know. I like, maybe
can you imagine And I said, hey, we've got a
beer and brought feed here. The emperor wanted brots, little spy,
he wants the cheddar brought too, a little cheese somebody
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somebody somebody slaughtered the hog.
Speaker 7 (58:03):
So now now we're gonna be I mean, you know
they're all just hanging out, you know, drinking out of
goblets of wine and uh, you know, maybe maybe having
a they.
Speaker 5 (58:11):
Chill the goblet. Probably not, I mean it'd be hard
to be hard to chill at that point. Yeah, that's
a good question, I am. Did they tailgate at the
Roman College? Roman Coliseum a good place to tailgate though,
I think so, a lot of history there. Yeah, I mean,
next next time I'm in Rome, maybe maybe I try that.
I haven't. You know, sometimes you'll see like the old
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school pictures, like you know, did a school book or something.
I'm wondering how come I never saw anybody like sitting
standing at the grill grilling up. Then Brots and some burgers.
Man got they've got the hog on the spit. They
you don't want a hog on spit, Okay, you don't
want hawk toa there, you don't want to hog. You
can't say that. You can't say a hog on spit
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you got. You can't say that you got something you
got somebody turning the spit there you go, what it is?
See if we explain, say I know what the people
in this town know what that is.
Speaker 7 (59:02):
Yeah, it's just it's a kind of like a little like,
I don't know, turn like a rotisseriya.
Speaker 5 (59:06):
There there you go bingo, yeah, saying go bongo.
Speaker 8 (59:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (59:10):
You usually are the one that that can fill in
the blanks on that. Yeah, it's a rotisseriy. So I
mean it's just turning around the open flame.
Speaker 5 (59:17):
There you go, then go through. Yeah. So I mean
you know soon enough. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 7 (59:20):
I don't think that pulled pork was around back then,
but I mean I guess you could go that route maybe.
Speaker 5 (59:26):
Hogs back then, right, Yeah, so you probably could have
a little shore. Somebody should have realized that I had
to pull some pork. Good stuff.
Speaker 7 (59:32):
Man, You get you get a you get a wild hog,
and and you slaughter it right and get the shoulder.
Speaker 5 (59:37):
I think there was tailgating, but I think it was
a little different than the way we do it now.
Let's just but there had to be. It's a cellar.
You know, they're celebrating. It's an event. Everybody's been taught
from the beginning of time that celebrate something goods happened,
good happens. What what's the celebration now? I don't see
a whole lot of wine at tailgates. Maybe it old
miss when up there in the grove and it's like
they got their crystal mimsies. Yeah, yeah, you're a mimsy guy,
(01:00:00):
aren't you. Momo, This is what I call him.
Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
You know, I figure if I say it that way,
it's it's less you know, it's it's more manly.
Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
Just not as feminine. It's masculine. And I haven't momo.
Speaker 7 (01:00:13):
Yeah, I haven't had one in a while, just because
I mean, you know, starts to kind of bubble up
and do all of that. I mean, I just I
used to usually stick with one or the other, the
hard stuff for or maybe even a golden soda or too.
Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
So if I said bloody Mary or mimsy, which what's
your style.
Speaker 7 (01:00:29):
Depends on how the night before went, I would probably
go bloody. But I feel like I can only go
one one bloody yeah and feel that. Yeah, I mean,
because then then you start to get that, and then
you know, you start to kind of get red lobster,
you knowing there a little bit.
Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
What about that? What about that mimsy headache?
Speaker 8 (01:00:46):
Though?
Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
That champagne head That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (01:00:48):
That's what I'm saying, because I mean, for the most
part if you're if you're getting uh, as you said,
a mimsy somewhere.
Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
Lose your man card if you call it a mimsy.
I don't think so, you don't know. I thought if
part of me thinks a man?
Speaker 8 (01:00:59):
What?
Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
And yet I kind of didn't vent it. We got
out of your car, thing to like where people are
the unwritten man, You're you're drinking mimosa. I don't. I
don't know if I can be buddies with you. Okay, yeah,
all right, good. I haven't had a mimsy in a
long time. It's been a minute for me too. I
mean I'm more overly spicy, bloody marriage. I was gonna say.
Speaker 7 (01:01:19):
I mean, if it's going to be an all day
college football something like that.
Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
You're going memsy. I mean you're going bloody. Pop the top, yeah,
pop to top. How about a red beer. That's a
good hangover. Oh no, it's it's tremendous.
Speaker 7 (01:01:32):
It's tremendous. Little kalamadoe, you know, throw throw some top
of teo in there. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
I want to go back to your hogspit comment. Please,
I'm curious to see where you go. Oh you could.
The Romans did tailgate probably party better than you do.
I mean, party us.
Speaker 7 (01:01:54):
If I'm not mistaken to like tailgating at life or
death events this kind of thing. Because if I'm not mistaken,
I think the very first battle of the Civil War
I learned this somewhere was people showed up because they're like, well,
we haven't seen war in a while. It sounds fun
a battle this, this is gonna be great. It wasn't
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a Civil War reenactment. It was the actual thing. And
then people realize pretty quickly, oh yeah, this is war
with like muskets and cannons.
Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
We're celebrating like, you know, oh my god, that guy
just got a bayonet tailgate tailgate and us Meyer throwing
a touchdown passes Florida their tailgate. The guy getting his
head lopped off, and we gotta eat the head or
just celebrate it, right, Yeah, I don't know, man, the French.
Speaker 7 (01:02:36):
Revolution off with their head, but first one with his head,
but first the wine.
Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
Good word the lop you know what I'm saying. Yeah, well,
anybody says, man, I'm gonna I'm thinking when somebody brings
the man he lopped his head off, that's like old
school biblical you know what I mean, you can't lop
a head off now, I mean you can. Man, that's
a little archaic. Now, you know you don't. You don't
want to go that route.
Speaker 7 (01:02:55):
So if if you do tailgate anytime soon, perhaps we
can think the Romans.
Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
I think maybe we should have a Roman themed tailgate.
I'll be down with that. You know what I'm saying.
You're going there and you're like, it's on today, like
December football, You're rare November football, it's on. Let's roaming.
This is this is full fledged get after? Does everybody
else know that? I mean, I think I'd feel pretty
stupid if I showed up at a toga. Yeah, it's like, hey,
why are you dressing a toga? I got bad information.
(01:03:21):
We might want to make sure that twenty of your
best friends are on the same tage. Yeah, hey, nobody
allowed to bring some machette and lop heads off? No, no, no,
let's let's not do that. So we call it machete.
Would they call a sword? What is the difference a
machete and a sword? Like more pointed at the end,
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no longer? Maybe a sword feels longer than a machete.
Speaker 7 (01:03:44):
Yeah, I mean, I think the width of the machete
is a little bit more like it's kind of like
the feel of a because you're going for double barrel
sawed off and to be able to you know, lop
through kad zoo and do all that.
Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
Like I tell you know, lop good word man, it was.
It was good pulled by good job. All right.
Speaker 7 (01:04:02):
Speaking of tailgating, we want people tailgate to see this
guy and his team work, and he thinks they're close
to being complete.
Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
We'll see if we agree. We'll discuss that here.
Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
It is a Shawn Salisbury show on a Western Wednesday
Sports Talk at seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
But first I got taking a tailgates.
Speaker 7 (01:04:18):
Oh yeah, I mean where we've talked about it numerous
times of tailgating in venue, the full service bar, the
beer garden, whatever it might be. Lunch is coming up,
so you're looking for a great place to go Jay
bar m Barbecue.
Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
You can't tailgate inside of the real tailgate if it's
just an inside, if it's just the inside of a building.
Now when you have the venue that's got inside and outside,
now that kind of resembles a good game day tailgate.
But you don't need a game day excuse to go
to Jbarrow barbicue, great menu, great people, phenomenal food obviously,
and parking. I mean I could roll through the list.
(01:04:57):
The thing is, when all is sudden done, you want
to say, when I went in there, did it meet
my expectations? When I left, price, food, the helpings, everything
that goes with it, did from start to finish and
meet my expectations. If it didn't, then you either got
to go back and say, well, Jaybariam, you don't have
(01:05:17):
to worry about that. Every time you go in there,
it'll meet your expectations and more than likely I know
it for me and I'm sure for you Dan, it
exceeded them. It always does. The food's phenomenal in the
service is great. There is no better place in Houston.
And so your only excuse is you're hungry, you want
to go get good food. You don't need any other excuse.
Speaker 7 (01:05:32):
I was told before I went there the very first
time that it was the best brisket that you would
ever have, and it did not disappoint. The haulopeno Cheddar sausage,
it met the same expectations. And we've been telling you
about the daily specials like yesterday told you about the
Mexican hot dog that they were working with. What if
today I told you speaking of that great brisket, what
if I told you it's ground down and made into
(01:05:52):
a prime brisket burger on a potato roll with American cheese,
jaybar m mop sauce, top of some crispy onion and
served with some fries for sixteen dollars.
Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
Let's go a little cold drink with it, and you're
good to go. Let's go great indoor outdoor steating and
it's even give yourself a change, even if you can't
make it during the week, which you should pop on
in there like on a Saturday or Sunday, and you're
gonna freaking fall in love with the food and the
venue itself. Yeah, I'm been there. It's twenty two one
Leland Jbarn Barbecue dot com. For that menu and everything
else that's going on.
Speaker 7 (01:06:23):
You'll show up, You'll never want to leave. He just
told you about it, Ja Barbi two.
Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
What they can I think they can addle like three
to three hundred fifty people or they did it up
here there you go.
Speaker 7 (01:06:30):
Hoffee showed up with all the goodness and we enjoyed
some good briskets, some ribs, some sides going with it too.
Jbarm Barbecue twenty two one one Leland Street. As Sean mentioned,
you'll show up, you'll never want to leave. It's Jbarn
Barbecue for the Sean Salisbury Show, continued attitude. She knows
she's a smoke show. Hey your beer, damn your beer
(01:06:53):
got hot. Yeah, as Hardy told you in the beginning, Yeah, yeah, no,
it's oh the perils of dating. The Astros hold on
to beat the Rangers last night six five at dyk
In Park.
Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
They're gonna go for the sweep.
Speaker 7 (01:07:05):
Tonight, Mariners beat the Royals twelve five in Kansas City.
Speaker 15 (01:07:09):
They won.
Speaker 7 (01:07:09):
They've now won ten straight. And the Texans we're gonna
talk about right now. Back to work today. Get ready
for the Jags on Sunday in Jacksonville. There are zero
and two. And we talked at at length yesterday about
this offense, primarily the offensive line and then kind of
building it down from there. But what if I were
to tell you that at oh and two and with
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the team Sean that is lost by a combined well
was it six points? Because they lost by five to
the Rams and they lost by one to the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
That they're not far from being a complete team. Just
ask Tamiko Ryans for what we're doing offensive league defensive. Man,
we we're not far away. So I don't want that.
Speaker 16 (01:07:51):
I'm not in the mode to where hey it's it's
doom and gloom like we're We're not far away.
Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
We're close.
Speaker 16 (01:07:57):
I think we made a lot of strides in this
game on yesterday. We did a lot of positive things
and we did well. Of course, they're always things issues
and things that you can't correct, but it is not
far off.
Speaker 7 (01:08:12):
Not far off, says Demiko Ryans. I mean, unless I'm
missing something here, Sean, this is a team who through
two games can't run the football. This is a team
who through two games can't they cannot be able to
protect their quarterback. They're a team that at times, although
they did get better in the second game about getting
the opposing offense off the field on third down, not
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at the beginning of the game. It was a carryover
from what you had out there in La where you
gave up seven to thirteen in that regard. But saying
that they're not far off, I appreciate to Miko's optimism.
I don't share it.
Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
If I was reading between the lines that say I'm
gonna protect my offense, my defense isn't far off. And
I believe that that's one of those where it's you know,
you don't want to say my defense isn't far off
and put the whole burden. Because defensively, let's name a
few things they got pushed around in the run game
which they should be able to fix. This past week.
They gave up some plays that they should have stopped,
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a sack in the pocket that Baker Mayfield extends it
and gives you a chance to go win. And they
didn't get a stop on the last series to allow
you to run right down your throat to win a game.
So defense, that's an aberration. You're not going to see
that much for them. I think that's a when I
say a quick fix. They've got to be more discipline,
stop penalties. But they're close. Man, when the season's over,
we're not going to look back and say the defense sucked.
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I promise you that they are good enough to disrupt.
And they are. But that's the speaking of one and
special teams. The two thirds of it is the protection
of the third because there's no way you can watch
this offense and say they're efficient. They're kicking ass. They're explosive,
They're kicking ass. In the run game, the offensive lines dominate.
My quarterback's playing at a high level. They're not. They're not,
(01:09:51):
And I'm wondering why the young guys aren't getting a
lot of run wide receiver. These two iowas honestly, at
some point they look like there's some playmaking skills. Now.
The one thing we don't and Demiko watches the tape
that we didn't watch when they break up the cutups,
so they did do a lot of good things in
it that they did. So the question I ask is
if they were the close to where they want to
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be and they're not offensively, they just can't. If they are,
then I'm not watching the same game. But I defer
to somebody an expert like Demiko. His defense and special
teams are playing well. They had some lapses that cost
them in this game and penalties, but offensively didn't do enough.
So I asked the question. I got on with our
guy Matt Muscona and get into everything I do every
Tuesday talking about the Saints, who are the Saints. The
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Saints now on a roster that's limited. The reason why
I'm making the comparison not that they're neighboring states, but
similarity the similarities. The Saints have had a chance to
win it in the fourth quarter both games. That's the
forty nine ers and who they just lose toss Arizona
(01:10:54):
Arizona Diamondback, I mean Arizona Cardinals. They've had a chance
to close them out both and they have penalty third
and long drop, just some stuff where they just haven't
closed it out. Rattler's played pretty well. And say you say, well,
are the Saints a good team, that they're close right,
that they're hanging around they're good, or they've just proven
us they can't close. It's the latter because they're not
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a great roster and they're not explosive. They just they
don't know how to win. The Texans do know how
to win with the visions. But the question you ask
yourself this year is, oh, they've been inside the red
zone twice with chances to win, Which leads me to
one other question here, what was the score when they
went forward on fourth down inside the three yard line?
They were down fourteen to ten. At the time it
(01:11:39):
was rhetorical, but that's I just want to reiterate now.
So why not kick the question in the next levels.
I love going forward, I love aggressive But the question
I got asked this question by a friend who's been
on the Dallas Cowboys staff, Sean, why did why didn't
they kick a field goaling? Because there was time and
get it to one point where a field goal wins
it for you. Valid But here's the point. My answer
(01:12:00):
to that is we always when they're not aggressive, or
when somebody's not aggressive and they kick a field goal,
why not go for it? And if they are aggressive
and they don't get it, why not kick the field goal?
So we're all, you can't be right if you make it.
It's like, yeah, great, butt, there's always a butt. The
thing about that that bothers me not even that they
didn't kick it. The thing that bothers me is their
approach to the offensive philosophy telling me what I need
(01:12:21):
to know. As I mentioned yesterday, So now I'm with Themko,
two thirds of it's playing good football. The defense is
going to have to play better to overcome some of
the offensive woes. They can't let Baker Mayfield do what
he does and them, you know, physically wear you out
in the run game. But that's far quicker fix. You're
dealing with a rookie play caller, a quarterback right now
(01:12:42):
that is not played his best football since his rookie year,
an offensive line that's still reeling, a run game that's
went from deep to a tight end position that went
from pretty deep to two of them done. So they're
reeling on offense. And no, their offense right now isn't close. Now,
one game can fix that. Jackson will be a good
team to get it fixed. But this is a two
(01:13:04):
thirds thing. This is a coach saying, giving you coach speak.
It's the overall thing. They did do some good things,
not enough of them to win. So who are they
a team that can get inside the red zone in
the fourth quarter and get close or a team that
can get inside the red zone and close. Right now,
after two games, you'd say, if the defense doesn't keep
getting stops, they're not gonna win. You can't keep winning
score nineteen and twenty and nine points. You got to
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get in the en zone more than that, or the
burden falls on your defense, and that's too much of
a burden with all these quarterbacks in this.
Speaker 7 (01:13:32):
League, well two chances they've been close and not been
able to close, and that's why they find themselves at
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The Jong Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 7 (01:16:00):
Yeah, we've kind of got I would say that country
music has gotten back to what a lot of people
like and not you know, kind of the bubblegum pop
stuff we had with like Thomas Rhett and some of those.
Speaker 5 (01:16:10):
Guys out there. I still like Thomas Redt. I do too,
but I'm just saying that it's a little bit more poppy,
right Oh, I agree. But if you got a fire,
don't lose it.
Speaker 17 (01:16:18):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (01:16:18):
Now, if you've got to do or die, just do it. Yeah,
just use it. Yeah, you got to. I mean, if
if you got a fire, just don't lose it. Bailey Zimmerman,
if I'm not mistaken, wasn't he a quarterback? Was he?
Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Was?
Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
He one of the numerous ones like Sam Hunt and
a few others that I wonder if he could throw
a bang post.
Speaker 7 (01:16:35):
And then god, what's uh, what's what's There's one that
played uh at North Carolina another one because Hunt played
at UAB. I think Zimmerman played at George Southern?
Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
Nice? Nice?
Speaker 7 (01:16:49):
Who what what country music guy played quarterback at You
and C. Somebody out there is going to know it
because I know that, uh, the the one guy that
played quarterback at U and C that used to be with.
Speaker 5 (01:16:59):
No. I mean he's still going. I'm kiskidding. I mean
that does sound like a good country name. Yeah, so hey,
ladies and gentlemen, same al Yeah, Sam Hell's opening for
Thomas Rhett. Yeah, it's like, you know, some of the
teammates and some ladies show up.
Speaker 8 (01:17:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:17:11):
And then there was always the one guy who you know, Hey, hey,
I got the guitar.
Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
I'm sure you do. Get him on the highway driving
in with Y two Country and Cody Island or what's
the other what's the other dhouse? No, what's the other DJ?
On Y two Country? The main one? He always hosts
the gosh dang, I listen to him every day. It'll
come to me, not a big deal. Not a big deal.
(01:17:37):
Loves golf too. The other reason why I like him,
he's all, what are you doing your free just golf?
That's how he does golfing golf all the time. Yeah,
my kind of guy. Where where am I? I mean,
that's it's good for the marriage too, you know, like
where you know? Oh, well, at least I know he's
not out cheating. It's like, yeah, he's just playing golf.
It's all he's doing. Yeah, right there, there's no doubt.
And I got news for your Bad golf will drive
(01:17:58):
you more crazy than anybody will. Yeah, it carries over
a good golf will obsess you more than well. I mean,
what's what's annoying about bad golf is? You know, obviously
it's bad golf, But then you'll hit a good shot
at the end, So then that's what that's that's the
the serotonin boost you need to be able to come back.
Who what breaks you up more? A birdie or an
(01:18:19):
eagle or your your favorite zoid. I'd probably say a
birdie or yeah, yeah, because I mean I can control
you know, you know you have, but two forty five five, Yeah,
you hit a nice little cut shot in there because
I think your ballflight's a little left to right correct,
(01:18:40):
and you roll it in there, and you're sitting with
a four footer for eagle and the outright lead. Yeah yeah, dude, Yeah,
So you're taking an eagle on the golf course ahead
of the bird. The birdies and eagles and the zoids
will follow. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. What is it the
chicken or the egg? Is it the eagle gets the
zoid or the zoid? You got the zoid and she
just golf.
Speaker 7 (01:19:00):
Clapping for the one is if if you follow Mickey
from you know, Rockies logic, women weaken knees. So, I
mean sometimes it can go against you, but or I
mean it can help you play better.
Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
So the euphoria of an eagle in the outright lead
might give you more euphoria than your favorite zoid. Yeah
all right. I respect that you're not gonna get anything.
I said, you handle the business. Everything else takes care
of itself. You know, Like a twenty five footer with
a right to a little right to left swinger, I mean,
you knock it to the bottom of the cup. Yeah,
hard hard to pass that up, right, guys.
Speaker 15 (01:19:32):
A quick sidebar, Paul he called in. He's a dan.
To your question, he said his name was.
Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
Damn you forgot what's his first must have been a
good name. What's his first name? That's where he was
going to. Oh yeah, he told me his name. It was, uh,
some country singer.
Speaker 15 (01:19:52):
I was trying to get it. Yeah, I was trying
to fire.
Speaker 5 (01:19:54):
Up the Google machine. Well, well we'll figure it out,
but you want some perspective on age real quick while
we're talking about fun. Thanks.
Speaker 15 (01:20:01):
Yeah, his last name was Rice something. I can't remember
his chase Rice. He was in a quarterback. He was
a linebacker.
Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
Okay, well, I mean I was somewhat the neighborhood he was.
He was in uniform. Yeah, okay, see he wore the
tar heel blue. Robin you out for those of us
who watched that Hall of Favor play, Yeah, he's seventy.
Damn it. I want you to think about I'm think
of Robin you out, Cecil Cooper. What's going to be
the next thing of all of this is like seventy.
Speaker 7 (01:20:31):
It's not bad enough that like Bigio's kid plays and
Bashette and like some of the other it's going to
be when grandkids start playing.
Speaker 5 (01:20:39):
Oh yeah, it's Jeff Bagwell's grandson. Cool. Yeah, the great right,
the great Robin seventy.
Speaker 7 (01:20:46):
It's approaching that man. That's what happens. Only if you're
lucky enough to keep going up in that number. Will
Al Randall, We'll get you involved. You want to join
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Speaker 7 (01:21:52):
They beat the Royals last night twelve five in Kansas City,
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Get ready for the Jags in Jacksonville. They're owing two
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Cyprus will good morning.
Speaker 12 (01:22:15):
Hey, good morning you guys. Thanks for having me. Sure,
I just want to speak on the Texans. I was
at the Texans game, and uh, you know, I'm sure
waking up early early morning Tuesday, I'm sure a lot
of fans were playing the blame game, you know, trying
to blame Shroud if it comes down to accountability. I
(01:22:36):
don't think he's entirely the reason to blame. I would
blame the O C and the O line. You got
to give the guy a little pass protection.
Speaker 5 (01:22:44):
Who's Who's Who's blaming Stroud?
Speaker 8 (01:22:46):
Who?
Speaker 5 (01:22:46):
Who out there? You mean on social media? People blaming
Stroud that there's a he's the reason.
Speaker 12 (01:22:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm hearing it from a lot
of guys here at work and so on and so
forth social media. You know Stroud, I think he's a
type of QB to run the design play, you know,
he's not the type of guy to go outside the
pocket create plays. They had two missed opportunities. They were
(01:23:11):
fourth and one at the goal line, and you either
punch it in in that situation or play it safe
and kick a field goal. They also the other missed
opportunity they had was the two point conversion. Almost immediately
after he hiked the ball, he got sacked. So that's
my input on the game. They definitely had a chance
(01:23:33):
to win it, and they failed miserably.
Speaker 7 (01:23:37):
Appreciate the call well, I mean, he did have some plays,
and I talked about it yesterday. There's four or five
that I can remember off the top of my head
that his rookie year. He made those plays. And now
the feed are all over the place. The accuracy is
off and it's an incompletion or I mean the case
of you know, last week against LA it was an interception.
(01:23:58):
So there is that. But I also it's a trained response.
As I've mentioned numerous times, I understand he's sticking up
for the guys that are in front of him. That's
what you have to do as a quarterback. But Sean,
those guys are the reason that he is this way
right now on the field.
Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
Yeah, but he also if we're going to hold him
to the standard that we hold starting quarterbacks that are
difference makers to which I do hold him to that standard,
he's got to have to overcome some of that and
he and the coordinator are gonna have to find a
way to dial up plays that quite frankly protect the
offensive line too. What I mean by that is whether
it's an extra body and staying in constantly and you're
max protecting, or getting plays that get the ball out
(01:24:35):
quicker or that allow you to change the launch point
of the puck, which they need to do a better
job of. They need to change his launch point instead
of three and five sitting in the pocket and the
only time you're moving him is is on a naked
boot or a sprint once in a while, you've got
to change the launch point and set him up in
different areas so they just can't tee off because you're
it's too easy to get to him and you know
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he's on a spot and your pressure and you know
how to get him. You got to change a launch point.
That's one.
Speaker 11 (01:25:01):
Two.
Speaker 5 (01:25:01):
Is anybody who thinks it's just c J. Stroud doesn't watch.
Of course, there's still collateral damage from the past, but
as a great player who's in line for a huge
pay raise at some point if he continues to play
what I'm talking about when the time comes that he
has got to he's got to make better decisions and
make better throws when it's a clean pocket when he
does have the protection that's necessary. So he isn't the problem,
(01:25:23):
but he's been part of it the first two games
he has not been. Hell I can right now, he said, Okay,
who's a better player, Daniel Jones or c J. Stroud.
Of course he wants Stratt. Jones is playing better whatever.
He's bought into what they're doing, and they're it's clicking.
Anybody who thinks that the future is not c J. Stroud,
(01:25:45):
We're way your way, putting the car before the horse,
slow down. The guy's a hell of a talent and
the hell of a thrower, but he's got to get
to another level. And he has also got to help
the second year offensive coordinator, well, first year offensive coordinator
in his set. You're going into his third year, meaning CJ.
Stroud since it's still early in this third season, to
elevate his play too. They've got to work and collab
(01:26:07):
and make sure that they're on the same page to
help the offensive line, which in turn has to help Stroud.
But there are a big reason why he's like this,
but is a great talent. He's just gonna have to
overcome it, like we expect every other star quarterback in
the league to do. We expect Burrow to do, we
expect Lamar Jackson to do it. And when they don't,
it's on them and people put it on them. So
it's not just Stroud, trust me, There's a lot going
(01:26:28):
on on that thing. He's not a weakness, but right
now he unfortunately hasn't been the strength that we expect
that we got his rookie year. There's an elevation he
has to get to. It's not just his fault.
Speaker 7 (01:26:38):
I mean, and it goes back to the coordinator higher
over the offseason where you touched on it a little
bit yesterday, Nick Keyley with Matt Stafford would work right now,
It would be fine. Stafford's seen everything, he's done it all,
he's been through it all.
Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
All right foward, lean on Stafford more because Stafford probably
knows more about the posit, well, he knows more than
he does because why he's been doing it longough, here's
an idea.
Speaker 7 (01:26:58):
I mean, I don't know where he is, but I
I know a guy that when I was in Atlanta
covering the Falcons was a pretty decent OC.
Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
Why don't you bring on a guy like Dirt Cutter
as a as a consultant, as a support guy right
now to help this guy out because Dumiko Ryans and
Nick Cassario feel like they got the right guy and
they thought they had it after a rookie year with
Slok and year or two they didn't. They regressed big time,
and that they the progress is going slower than the
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regress is for the offense right now, it just is
so yeah, I get it. Like I said, I would
have preferred a veteran, which doesn't mean I don't like Kayley,
but you're you're you're dealing with basically, Thank goodness, the
verbiage is the same that you didn't have to relearn
that as a quarterback. But there's there, there's there. They're
(01:27:50):
got to find their place and unfortunately they're still in
search of what the identity is. What I mean, play
what they are because right now you don't have it
there identity is obvious. It's playing solid defense. But on
an offense, who's the We don't have an identity yet? Here?
Are you gonna run it well? Mixiner? Are you gonna
throw it well? There's Nico Collins and a bunch of
(01:28:11):
other guys that are trying to make headway. What are
you gonna do? So there is a I usually four
to five weeks in, I can tell you what a
team's identity is. Some we already know. You already know
Philadelphia's identity, and some have more than one. And that's
a good thing, meaning both sides of the ball. Green
Bay's identity has taken another step this year. That's a
team that's taken what they learned from last year and
(01:28:33):
elevated it and they are progressing big time. So it
is there is absolutely no doubt that for the Texans
to do what we expected them to do, the quarterback,
the line, receivers, the run game. The problem is we're
not just saying one thing. There's a weakness at every
step of the way so far offensively, Now, how far
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they think they're away as to how far you think
they're away may be completely different. Because they're in they're
watching tape and doing what they do. It takes one
game to get that rolling, but right now it feels
rigid to me offensively very much.
Speaker 7 (01:29:08):
And that's pretty much what we've seen throughout the first
couple of weeks of the season.
Speaker 5 (01:29:12):
Al Randall will get you involved.
Speaker 7 (01:29:14):
I also, do you want to bring up somebody who
could really help this offense? And I want to know
if indeed you do agree, Sean, so we'll talk Shaw.
I will touch on that here. On the other side.
Speaker 5 (01:29:24):
It is a Shawn Salisbury show on a Western Wednesday
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Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 5 (01:29:32):
And it no no, now you know, good morning, Al.
Speaker 8 (01:29:41):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 17 (01:29:42):
Dan?
Speaker 19 (01:29:43):
Hey, Sean, great show. Let me let me get a
couple of points in in real quick, Dan, before you
ringing the bill.
Speaker 8 (01:29:49):
Now, Brian never did the bill and he let us cook.
Speaker 7 (01:29:52):
Oh that's not true, that's not true. I used to
listen all the time. Brian would do it all the time.
Don't you put that evil on me?
Speaker 19 (01:30:00):
Not what's south side of the shun verify that? Hey,
let me say this, elf, it's not the quarterback. I
think people don't realize Sean. You was talking about that
just now. They don't realize stroud progression and all that.
Every quarterback MISSI miss a ball or missile throw down.
(01:30:21):
But people don't realize when CJ. Stroud was cooking, he
had all his weapons. He's dealing with Nicocollins and a
bunch of guys trying to make it in this league.
All these other quarterbacks have they weapon. He just has
new co Ocllllins. The rest he the rookie. You try
to get Kristen Kirk, he's a no show. You don't
have Joe Mixon. He's dealing with a bunch of guys
(01:30:42):
trying to.
Speaker 5 (01:30:42):
Find their way.
Speaker 19 (01:30:44):
And so that's a lot got to do with what
he's got going on, because these guys don't understand the
NFL level.
Speaker 5 (01:30:50):
They just got here.
Speaker 19 (01:30:52):
Secondly, the extra point conversion Sean Demiko ran have shown
this team doesn't have a sensor urgency. The game is
not over. They went in there with that play like, okay,
if we get it, we get it. We'll just use
our hat on the defense. And this is my last point, Dan,
and you can ring the bell shun. This defense was
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top three in long plays last year. If I ain't
mistaken correct me, if I'm Wallace. They gave up the
most plays. They was either the top two top three
defense in the league. They ran five points some yards
of carry on them. And it's just overrated defense. We
knew this three two years ago. They didn't address the
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middle of the D line. They still haven't and teams
have shown you can run on the Texans yeat. A
passing game is cool, but the Kenny's hell off this
for the the sense the Mico been here, it's been
up the middle in defense. It's softened now and they
never addressed it. That and that's all I got to
hang up when poor management on Mico Ryan, he doesn't
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manage to claim and since the urgency on this team,
and it's gonna be hard to fix because you've shown
your DNA, and I hang up with this, all.
Speaker 5 (01:32:04):
Right, I think, sal there's a lot to chew on there.
I gotta be honest. I mean I caught the defensive
part at the beginning. The offensive parts I don't remember,
Sean Well, defense, I'll help you. Defense. Want some more
stout in the middle because they have been pushed around
the run game in the last couple of years. They've
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been and well. Demico admitted as such as far as
got to get bigger and fit, more physical on both
sides interior, and he ran into a couple hard I
mean some physical runners in Tampa. That is going to
have to improve, especially if your offense isn't going to explode,
you got to get off the field. Unfortunately at the
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right time this past week on the drive they missed
out on a couple of tackle, was a tote in
the backfield that had a chance to make the tackle
in the backfield on Baker Mayfield didn't. So we've talked
about that, and then they let him go down to score.
So's there's some things. I don't think there's a glaring
Oh my gosh, this can't see I disagree with al
on the one thing. I think the offensive line is
going to struggle to be fixed during end season. I
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think you have enough bodies to be good enough in
your front seven to at least be better in the
run game. I do. I think this defense is going
to be the strength of the team and until until
somebody proves me otherwise. Yes, a'l. The weapons, yes, they
They've got to protect the quarterback better and the and
the coordinator has got to be more aggressive while also
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making sure they put their team in in situations that
aren't Hey, it's third and eight, drop straight back, hold
the ball only block with five and and hope that
you're going to get it out. That that's what you
can't do. But we can't. We can't leave you it.
It's just you just can't take away that's only one
guy or one group's fault. I think if you ask CJ. Shot,
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are you playing your best football and you've got to
get better, he'd absolutely say I do. I absolutely would.
So it's not just him, but we always focus on
the coach and the quarterback. There's a lot of other
things they got to fix. And maybe they are close
on defense, but there's grouping. Every group needs some work
on the offense and that includes the quarterback and we
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know that. But from the body of work I've seen,
I know what CJ. Stroud can do throwing the football,
but we can't keep saying that as they keep going
and it's their fault, it's their fall, it's their fall
when it's a clean pocket and when he's got a chance,
he has got to make throws that he made as
a rookie. How much will Christian Kirk help a lot.
It just increases your bandwidth on an offense inside and
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outside if you can put him on the spetch teams.
But it allows you now to hell, if you're going
to continue to roll coverage and do everything you can
to take Nico Collins away, you've got a guy who
can work the middle of the field and do a
lot of things with the football in his hand. Superstar, No,
but a great addition and a chance to be a
star for this team because of the need for it,
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and he's a veteran, he understands it. I remember meeting
that kid at the top one hundred players in high
school and I thought I loved his attitude when I
interviewed him, and it's turned out I just like, I
think he's a really good grinder to have on your team.
But aside from that, the guy's talented, and it would
be it'll be a great help. All it does is
expand your offense. Now, quarterbacks still got to be upright,
but what it also does is give you that quick
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ball to get out some option routes and allowing work
the middle of the field that gives you a security blanket.
Did a lot of quarterbacks find in their tight end
and you can also find it with a slot receiver.
Hopefully that's the case.
Speaker 7 (01:35:21):
This week in Jacksonville, Randall and Sugarland wants to weigh in.
Speaker 20 (01:35:23):
Good morning Randall, Hey, good morning, Good morning Shun and Dan.
First of all, I like to give a shout out
to Triple Leaf for us doing such a great job
in the backgrounds always Sean, you was spot on when
you were talking about the philosophy of decision making. I think,
other than execution, the decision making lost that football game because.
Speaker 10 (01:35:48):
It was early in the game. It was early.
Speaker 20 (01:35:49):
You had enough time to kick the field goal and
get back on defense and play ball. Okay, Houston Detexans
have a history and Matt Sharp and David Carr was there.
They was decent quarterbacks. But the offensive line, the history
of the offensive line has been a problem for the
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Houston Texans, and for some reason they would not fix
the offensive line.
Speaker 10 (01:36:15):
And not only that, I think that.
Speaker 8 (01:36:21):
And when.
Speaker 10 (01:36:23):
My man ran for.
Speaker 20 (01:36:24):
Fifteen yards, Strive ran for about fifteen yards right before
the AD, they should have went to a hurry of offense.
They don't have a situational plays. They don't have situational plays.
I sit there and I'm watch them intent a too
many drill and run the.
Speaker 10 (01:36:43):
Football or past the football.
Speaker 20 (01:36:44):
But you have to have situational situations to be.
Speaker 10 (01:36:50):
Able to execute good plays.
Speaker 20 (01:36:51):
You have to at some point pro the teams off
that you're playing.
Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
And we don't do that.
Speaker 20 (01:36:57):
We don't have trick plays.
Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
We don't.
Speaker 8 (01:36:58):
We don't.
Speaker 10 (01:36:59):
We just basic for all and you.
Speaker 11 (01:37:01):
Can just want us the way you want them.
Speaker 20 (01:37:03):
Whoopers, But I think that they'll they'll be okay if
they fix the offensive line. But the Miko Rans is
going to have to make better decisions when it comes
to get guaranteed points. Kick your field goals and keep
playing football. I don't know why these team has gotten
back from old fashioned football analytics and philosophies. Let's just
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go out there and play some hard nosed, old school
football and win those games.
Speaker 10 (01:37:31):
And you know, I hang up and listen. But the
Texans have to be better.
Speaker 5 (01:37:36):
All I appreciate it, definitely have to be better. And
here's why I bring up the when you're down for
to kick a field goal when there's time. While we
say okay, you trust, you're trying to send them out
and they were trying to send a message we're down here,
but the message they sent was we're gonna finessey instead
of be physical with you. That's one. Two is how
much do you trust your defense? In truth, the way
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they were playing, you trusted them a lot, sure, and
so you trusted your defense to get you the ball
back if you go for it. But there's also to
the field of thoughts says, let's get it with it
a point, our defense will get a stop and we'll
come down and we'll be in field goal range. So
it goes both ways. I would think you'd lean on Hell. Yeah,
he trust the defense because if we don't get it
on fourth down, we're going to get a stop. We
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are going to get a stop and make them go
ninety eight yards or whatever it is, right, And then
the next series was that the next series when Christian
Harris had a face mask, moved it out to the twenty,
and that's how they flipped it that I think that
I think they were. They were We're talking about the
same exact series. The bottom line is, you know, he
trusts his defense, but he sures heck doesn't trust the
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physicality of his offense, or they would have run the football.
Speaker 7 (01:38:42):
The intention was to trust the offense. But the problem is,
and it's twofold, you didn't trust your offensive line.
Speaker 5 (01:38:49):
I think it was. I think it was. I think
it was. You were trying to send a message for
your offense that I believe that we're down here. I'm
gonna believe in you that we can get this done.
The problem is, in the process of saying it out
of the other side of your mouth, you threw the football.
Didn't give them a chance to come out and puff
their chests say we ran this ball in like Tampa
right now. Is saying you get inside a three yard
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line right now, we're gonna do everything. We're running it.
And that's how they feel at the end. So while
you're trying to send a message for your offense, I believe,
and you go put this in the end zone, then
you know you're lining up in the gun and throwing
it regularly and not getting back to what linemen loved
to do, beat the snot out of somebody else and
body blow them on a regular basis. So, in the
of trying to send a message, you sent the message
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loud and clear on your believability in your offense, which
is we're gonna have to throw it or at least
if he turned it over to Kaylee and didn't say,
see I know in Denny Green real quick. When we
had Brian Billick, who was a brilliant offensive play caller,
Denny never told him what to do on the sidge,
but in a very subtle way, about a subtle as
a punch to the face. He'd walk by and say,
give me your best run. If it's third and two,
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that didn't mean throw the ball. That meant give me
your best run. Or sweet, don't you dare throw the
ball here, give Robert Smith the football and we're gonna
run it. Or he'd go by and say, give me
your best run, you get two downs. I'd stand ready
and you hear it all the time. Could he be
standing next to Brian or Denny because you're trying to
help the quarterback and listen to what's going on. Give
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me your best run, you get two downs, Throw the football.
Throw the football didn't mean hand it off. It meant
so Dinny had his way. That's exactly right. Without telling
you what play to call, that's on you. You're the coordinator.
You get paid. You dial up the formation and the
movement in the motion and get your quarterback and say, Page,
give me your best run. And that was the loud
messages said. And if he said give me your best
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runs down here you got two downs to get in,
that didn't mean on the second one throw it. That
meant whatever it is, you find me your second best
run and get it in the end zone. And that
was the message said. And I understand, give it autonomy,
let your coordinator do it. But there is that moment
when you got to say, listen, you want to send
a message, run it three or four straight downs. I
don't care you run the ball. We're sending a line
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message that we are not going to be a finesse team.
And unfortunately they looked finesse again and the finesse wasn't
good enough to beat Tampa, who did both physical and
finesse better than the Texans offense.
Speaker 7 (01:41:12):
Kenneth Ray, biscuits will work in you want to join
them Someone three two and two five seven ninety against
someone three two and two five seven ninety, continuing the
Texans conversation Here Sean Salisbury Show There for the Shawn
Salisbury Show continued. Let's go to my dad's hometown, Orange.
Let's talk with Kenneth Good morning.
Speaker 5 (01:41:31):
Kenneth.
Speaker 8 (01:41:33):
Here, Good morning.
Speaker 13 (01:41:34):
I got a command triple y uh with a good
job and uh most of all the callers. You don't
hear from me much because your callers seem to always
cover what I have on my mind. But I want
to add something this morning, and I feel it's very
important and it really discussed me. Man, to be boying
your team like that. Man, I know what it's like
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not to have a team here, because see, we had
an owner here got tired of that miss and going
through the changes of getting what he wants. And everybody
got to be aware of it. Man, our stadium need repairs,
and really they talking about it. They really wanted another stadium.
But the thing of it is here, we got to
have it and not showing up and see a team
here to make money too, and see a good a team,
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A good team. A bad team is like this pretty
woman you didn't appreciate for somebody else, a taker. You
look up, you might find this team in another city. Man,
we're gonna have to appreciate this team. Where your quarterback
get knocked on the air, have a bad day, bad week,
or bad year, you bag him up. Man, you don't
boo your quarterback.
Speaker 11 (01:42:37):
Thank you, man.
Speaker 7 (01:42:39):
I appreciate the call. I mean with Bud Adams, that
was more on him. That wasn't about the city not
loving the Oilers. It's just they didn't love him and
they didn't want to give him what he wanted. How
do you feel about booing your own team? Honestly, they're
the deep the deep part of it. Cancer is on
to something you reserved the right do whatever. Well, yeah,
not to do whatever you want. Throwing beer on people
and doing all this just.
Speaker 5 (01:43:00):
Beings relatively harmless, right if you bought a ticket, I mean,
does it I never really, never really bothered. But it
hits a little different when you and I have been
booted at home. I think anybody who've ever played you
have one of those games that it was like, boob
but I've heard it, and you can't. You can't bother
you during the game because you've got to go out
there and prove it otherwise, and so hopefully you do.
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But there is a party and when you walk out,
there's a damn that didn't take long.
Speaker 7 (01:43:23):
Well, I mean, what was happening on Monday night? And
by the way, that was a full building on Monday night.
People support this team, that's not the issue. You got
a problem with booing home team. No, I don't. I
mean because people both absolutely both. I mean I've been,
as a matter of fact, have been one of your
favorite ballparks, David Ortiz. I think we can agree that
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fan base loves that guy hit a routine ground ball
the second base and I mean wasn't even a jog
to first base.
Speaker 5 (01:43:50):
Starts getting booed. So if that guy can get booed,
anybody can't judge got booted. Has been booed in the
past in the postseason at times, has it.
Speaker 7 (01:43:56):
It's just it's look, as you said, I'm much of
that than you throwing things onto the field to show
your kids. Yeah, you're distaste. I'd much rather you do that.
But I mean the booze the other night where this
thing was supposed to be better offensively, and I'm booing
because well, this thing sucks. This thing looks like it
did last year. And if that's the case, then why
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did you make a change.
Speaker 5 (01:44:20):
Yeah, they got some fixing to do, and I don't
think Kenneth, I get your point. But either the new
facility or upgrade that one, which they're going to do
one of the two. Right. I don't think we're in
any danger. The NFL won't let Houston leave, and they're not.
They're printing money over there. They're fine, and it's be kind.
The organization has gotten better much they have. They've gotten
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better as far as you know. They they're trying to
shore things up. They got good people in the right positions.
I understand kennis frustration. I also understand why you don't
want the home team. But one thing Kenneth is building
that scar tissue up is that most players that aren't
overly sensitive know when you're having one of those days. Hell,
I've been booed out of my own damn home at
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times when I'm doing you know, when you're not put dad,
what why do? Right? So it happens. It's just that
if it becomes a habit, you end up making a change,
right because you got to get better. We're not anywhere
near that. But there's some things they got to do. See,
I'm not even thinking about things they got to do
in the division. The division colts. You know, the cults
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are to and over, but that division's far from over.
You did get to play them twice. But what I
do know is that I think bigger for them, just
like we do the Astros. To me, we've gotten to
the point playoffs, that's the first. You got to go
play well to get to the playoffs. But the playoffs
can't be the goal.
Speaker 7 (01:45:41):
The Astros have been booed at home before they got
swept by the Royals a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5 (01:45:44):
There did the Astros. I mean, the Astras or the
Texans can't be the goal is and the and the
Rockets created that last year with the way they've played
in how Doka has got them playing better, that's no
longer the goal. That's part of the process, that's the journey.
But it stands. You know, it's all okay, win the division, fine,
but that's not enough because most teams that expect more
when you win the division. Yeah, great thumbs up with
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your exit interview. When you go the offseason, it's not fun.
You say, we played some pretty good football and we
learned something, but we got to be better and it's
so now. Listen, if you're the Giants and you make
the playoffs, dude, you're ecstatic. Right. You're the Jets and
you get in the playoffs, man, you you may have
hit the ceiling on your goal this year because you
can't expect much more. Even though they'll tell you we
were here to win a championship, you didn't win a
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no championship, and you know going in you're the Saints
know going in this year they were they don't have
enough talent, but getting the playoffs is a huge win
for them. Getting to the playoffs now great, gets people
pay raises in some cases keep making the playoffs no
go further. It gets people fired. So the expectations have
been raised, so our level as fans, expectation has been raised.
And when they fall short of it twice in a
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row and two games had a chance to win and
have it, it's like a closure blowing a save two
times in a row, he'd get booed too. So it's
gonna happen. The key is what do you do with it?
We always ask, well why why? Then the next question is, okay, well,
how are you going to fix it? That's my concern.
I've seen two games, and the two games I've seen
flashes of brilliance, a lot of average and some bad
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and more of the other two when it comes to
offensively than the good stuff. Now, the next thing is,
how do you fix it? How do you get this
offensive line to say enough's enough? How do you get CJ.
Stout to get back and putting that anchor in that
back foot, putting into ground, not being a little frantic
in the pocket, and getting back to knowing what we
know he can do. One of the best pure throwers
of the football in the league. And how do you
get the physicality of a run game to say enough
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if we're going down one of these times, I'm not
going down the pillow fight and in a pass protection,
I am going to wear you out. And if we
get beat, so be it. At least a message was
sent right now. Unfortunately, you can out physical that the
your physical skills Tampa or whoever else to play are
far better on their defense than the finesse skills right
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now are with the Texans offense.
Speaker 7 (01:47:58):
And you hope it's message received starting Sunday in Jacksonville,
because it's Texans would like to get on the board
with a win. Ray Biscuit Gary work in someone three
two one two five seven ninety against Someone three two
one two five seven ninety. Continued sections conversation here Sean
Salisbury show.
Speaker 1 (01:48:15):
Oh also check this out.
Speaker 19 (01:48:16):
I should have warned you if Sewan only cares about
cold hard.
Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:48:26):
Pretty good little movie. What about dos Boot?
Speaker 7 (01:48:29):
That's what they were doing, shoot the boot, yeah, which
in this case it wasn't actually shooting the boot, because
when you shoot the boot, it's you just take your
boot off and you pour some in there and you
shoot the boot.
Speaker 5 (01:48:40):
You don't how to say doss boot? Well, I mean
just said it, so yeah, get real quick, doss boot. Yeah.
I like that Goss boot. So I want you to
refer to the silver boot. Could you do that Doss boot? Yeah?
All right, there you go.
Speaker 7 (01:48:49):
I mean, look, you know for New Brothels and right
there Central Texas, I'm sure that probably resonates with some
of those people, and you fighting for some fans over there.
Speaker 5 (01:48:57):
So you get to New bron Fels. It's a great town.
It really is green, good time. And I've never been
out to worst Miltree. What's that? What's Frederick Fredericksburg? Like?
They I like antiques and I like those shops, and
that's get there. Yeah, take the lady out there. That's it.
So you got to go out there and play a
little uh be a solid ball striker, get golf out there.
(01:49:18):
Oh yeah, fine, little little song, little little little bar.
All good peeps. I heard nothing. I mean people come
from far and wide to go to Fredericks, right. Yeah.
I love antiquing, do you. I mean no, I like
finding like furniture, like like I like furniture and antiques.
So it's like, oh, man, that looks like it be
(01:49:39):
cool in my backyard, like for like a table or something.
Speaker 7 (01:49:42):
My cousin's husband found a program and bought it for
me from the first exhibition game at the Astrodome between
the Astros and Yankees.
Speaker 5 (01:49:50):
Awesome. See I like that stuff, man. So I don't
know why I haven't been out there.
Speaker 7 (01:49:53):
But like in terms of like old lamps that look
like you would be inside an old pizza hut.
Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
No, I'm good. Oh but you can find some good
tables and some good you know, there's some I like
some of those. Some some really good well done woodworking
and stuff and iron and stuff.
Speaker 8 (01:50:08):
I like.
Speaker 7 (01:50:09):
I like you when you buy it as soon as
you know you you pay the cash for it, and
they've got the old paper tag right there with the
price written on it. You do you say as you're
moving it to the truck, man, they don't build them
like they used to.
Speaker 5 (01:50:21):
Who doesn't man? You see, but you'll see an old
school movie too, and they'll show like the foyer of
the house when you when you're there and you'll see
the staircase and it's big, thick wood and you're like,
I don't build them like they said. Yes, that's what
you have to say, and that and that it is,
but it's it is a fact. It's all. It's almost
like that hurry through a building now as opposed to
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get to the next one is finish a community, trust me,
and then they will do that to get the next
one instead of every nook and cranny proper. It's it's
mass production instead of constant good production in some of
the building.
Speaker 7 (01:50:54):
That's that's where when you get into a certain tax bracket,
then you can tell them like, no, this is the
way I want it right, so now you're going to
redo it. Yeah, that's a fact. Yeah, no doubt to
be able to get to that point someday. But Astros
GM Dana Brown going to join us here in about
thirty minutes. The Texans going to be back to work
getting ready for the Jags on Sunday. They're zero and
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two and a lot of you want to be able
to talk some Texans, So let's do it. Seven one, three,
two and two five seven ninety. It's got South Florida, Miami. Ray,
Good morning, Ray, Hey man.
Speaker 17 (01:51:26):
I want to say something first to his last caller.
It's a difference between a Fairweather fan and a diehard
Easton Texans fans. Let me tell you something. When Bob
and I wrote that check to give us the football team,
a lot of Heastonians was in tears. A lot of
Heastonians was in tears. And you guys understand that. And
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for you to be knocking on the door to the
SC championship game, man, trying to show me an acy
championship game, And now you start to knowing too, these
guys in South Florida feeling the same way too. Is
getting booed out of his mind right now. So they
showed him something down here in Florida, and that is
not showing him that that guy is a Fairweather fan.
And I'm a diehard Houston Texans fan and I ain't
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spent a lot of money on Houston Texans merchandise shipping
it over here getting the game when I was living
in Houston. I don't spent a lot of money in
them guys, So I feel like I have a right
to boot them whenever I want to, and they cheer
for them whenever I want to, And I'm gonna be
a Texans fan forever.
Speaker 5 (01:52:26):
That's a good, great point, right, and two is mercilessly
getting hammered. Wow is right on? He is It is
Mike McDaniel. They lose three more in a row. He
may McDaniels, McDaniels, Josh McDaniels, Mike McDaniel, they lose three
more in a row, dude, or get beat in the
next couple. He may be back on Kyle Shanahan's staff
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as a run game coordinator. You think that this team
is finesse that team, dude, men handled that men handled
by Mike Rabel's Patriots. The Finesses with a capital F. Dude.
The Miami Dolphins are the softest team in the league.
You know how they say they take on the person
out of your head, coach, take a look at the
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just just all you gotta do is weird guys are
starting to show up in cap That's strange. It's it's strange,
Tom Landry, you know where those capri pants on the sideline?
If we you know, you're not allowed to wear a
coat and tie anymore. Really, Jack del Rio did it
once in Jacksonville. They give him one time a year.
I think that you can do it or something. You can't.
But you can go out and wear joggers that pulled
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up to your knees like he does in your knees
and like like you're getting ready to go to a
what's the best way, Well, you're getting ready to go
to a mamba Clyde. What are they called zoomba? Mambo zoomba?
You know who's counting? Yeah, but that's fine. Bottom line
is this, If they were winning, it'd be fashionable. They're
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getting their ass kicked. Everybody was to know why he's
wearing the stuff on the side. But they are soft
as a wet piece of paper towel. And it ain't Brownie. Okay, brownie,
the paper town not Brownie. So yeah, he's getting booed
and it does get you. You want to boot your
boo wah. And if you're most of us when we're
getting booed at home, know why you get it because
you're playing like ass and that's that that's a problem offensively,
(01:54:12):
but you know what, it's part and parcel to the
paycheck and which with the expectations that you've stud well, you.
Speaker 7 (01:54:17):
Want to avoid the booze produce Biscuit going to close
the South to Soeur Biscuit, Good morning, Top of the morning.
Speaker 10 (01:54:25):
Hey real quick man Sean his book. You know, my
thing is everybody got to write the boom man, But
is it productive?
Speaker 20 (01:54:34):
Man?
Speaker 10 (01:54:34):
That doesn't help the team when you boom at home.
Speaker 5 (01:54:38):
I've never booted. I don't boom biscuit. I mean I everybody.
I've never boot anybody in my life. I may have
disdained for what's going on, like oh my gosh, you
got to make that throw or that catch, but I've
never I've been booed more than I've ever booed. I
don't think I've ever been to a stadium and boot anybody.
I've been pissed or internally, but I've never booted out
loud because I don't know what purpose it serves. But
(01:55:00):
I understand why people's frustration boils to a point with
all the money they're spending. It's just never been for me,
I understand why they do it, but I don't boom
because it's not doing me any good.
Speaker 10 (01:55:11):
I think, I think if it's lack of infert good.
But the other than that, you know, but let me
shine real quick. Two things that stick after me is
then third and long too much? Oh yeah, the third
and long, man, you're not gonna And that's the problem
I think, Dan is they're not getting enough plays. Run
(01:55:33):
They not you know, getting first downs, and so you
got to stay out of third and long and the shine.
That's where to me, I think some of us have
to go to CJ. I'm watching the game the other night,
man Shalter's inn. The shelter's in the flat all the time,
wide open. But Seej's not looking for that. But I'm saying, shoun,
third and two is better than third and seven, you know,
(01:55:55):
throwing the shows. Let him get fired yards and then
will you know, we'll line up, because when you get
third and long, shine, you know, here come these exotic
blitzes and you know you blaming the line, but they
bring in five or six people now, and so I
just think you gotta get a better grass for getting
third and shorts at a third and long. And then
to our last question.
Speaker 8 (01:56:16):
Of Shine, is you on the goal line.
Speaker 13 (01:56:18):
And I understand what you.
Speaker 10 (01:56:19):
Said earlier by running the ball, but Shine, you got
a one on one matchup with your best player. Third goal,
that was the play. And for the like mean, why
they ran that particular route, that little stopping goal on
the goal line, that's not enough. Yeah, why they didn't
(01:56:41):
run a sweat with the big dude or back show
to fade, which you got the big tall receiver. It's
one on one. That's what got me, Shine, that was
that's my only complain And and told to not making
the tackle those two plays and he lost the game.
Speaker 5 (01:56:54):
Yeah, and it's it's between it's usually sixty eight plays
and end up costing a miskick here, a block punt here,
the tackle in the pocket, air biscuit, great stuff, real quick.
I can tell you this that third in law. That's
what I've always said. Third and seven. I can blitch you,
force you to throw hot, tackle you for a four
yard game and make you punt third and two. You
blitz me, I throw hot, he catches it for a
(01:57:14):
three yard game. It's a first down, that's only and
it's third down. Is not the most important out of football.
I'm just going to tell you it's not. It's the
last one we see. So we say, ah, they failed
on third down. I'm telling you third and nine eighty.
I ain't got many plays in my playbook for third
and twelve. But first down is the most important. You
get six yards of more on first down, you control
the next two down. That's what Jack. You have to
win first down. I've set it for twenty five. Well
(01:57:36):
sean third, No, because if third down is the most important,
and I'm and I go minus four on first down,
third and fourteen ain't doing me any good. It happened
to me once and Brian Billick, who is a great
friend and a great coach, I held the ball too long.
Once we get to like third and eighteen, I look
over sideline to get to play. He points at me.
I look back over the sideline, get to play. Points
(01:57:58):
at me. You know what he was sending a message,
hold the ball longer. This is on you. I don't
have a play for third and eighteen. So you go,
you dial up a call to play, get yards back
and punt go over there. Great point message set take
care of you. It's not just see but I'm talking
about in my case, Yeah, yeah, we ain't gonna win
many games if you're not winning on first down. Look
at the stats. Teams that went on first down five
(01:58:19):
and a half yards or more are going to win
more games, period, and especially if you're not good enough
to overcome third and nine. And this team isn't right now, no,
and it's leading to a lot of three and outs.
Speaker 7 (01:58:29):
Sorry, let's get back into the Astros as a familiar face,
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Speaker 7 (02:00:43):
There's still a half game from the Stros. Strows in
front of the Rangers by four games now, so a
win tonight with nine games to go after this one,
you'd be up five in front of them, effectively knocking
them out. Let's go. Let's go for it tonight. Go
for the juggular if you're the Strows. Dana Brown gonna
join us, coming up at nine point thirty. Josh Hater
(02:01:04):
could start throwing next week, keeping the door open for
a possible postseason return, telling reporters yesterday, just taking it
day by day, seeing how I'm recovering. There's no set
timetable for me to get back for the first week
of the playoffs, but if everything goes well, it's looking
like we could possibly be back for the second, third,
fourth round. It just depends on how I'm recovering from throwing.
(02:01:27):
He of course, has that shoulder strains so a long shot,
it sounds like. But at least, if nothing else, it
does seem like that you would get Josh Hater back
at some point in the good news with him too,
he's not a guy that you look for to get
you a ton of pitches in an inning that you
want him to be able to go in there close
out the ninth. But just here's the problem with me, though,
(02:01:49):
Sean is for the layoff that he's had, and let's
just say that what he just said plays out, that'd
be almost two and a half months if that guy
hadn't closed a game.
Speaker 5 (02:01:57):
I don't know if I can use him there. But
if you bring him back, that's exactly where you're going
to use him. You have to be. Yeah, So once
again we always think of okay, it's good to go,
but good to go? Okay, ready fit and got now
throwing off the mound. Now back into that rhythm, because
you're I mean, you know it's almost a restart, isn't it.
I mean to get back and even as a closer
(02:02:17):
closer to lengthen it out to twenty five pitches that
thrown at ninety eight, right, whatever it is you're doing. So,
I just think the safe thing is to say that'd
be like, Okay, are you getting heater in the next
twelve days? Heater? Are you getting Josh hater in the
next on a heater? You get Josh the next twelve days. No,
So it's playoffs or bust. Right, And at least the
(02:02:38):
divisional round is what sounds like would be apposible. Divisional
round hadn't thrown yet. Well, we five game series and
division right, one game, it's one game apiece. You got
to close it out. Got a two run lead, and
he hasn't pitched you throwing him got you right? Yeah,
you got to assume that his work in the bullpen
and his sides out there, if he's out there, you sha,
(02:03:01):
that's exactly right. So it's it's going to be close
or bust. I just think it's I think it's awfully
ambitious to get him ready if he's not going to
be ready in the post, and then to trust that
it's going to be hitting the ground running. But he
started the season fast coming out of spring training, right,
I mean he was on fire right off the bat
and twenty two save appearances, All Star Game and the
(02:03:24):
rest of it. So, but if you're running him out there.
The key is how quickly are you going to advance
this forward? And he says day to day, no timetable.
But for me, they're always you know what I'm saying,
It's like a goals if there's no end date on
a goal. And now, I know injuries are different, but
if you say, hey, I want to be a ten
handicap in the next year, you're starting to work towards
(02:03:45):
that ten handing whatever it takes to get there. Same
thing here, it can't be well, I hope say one
day would be a ten handicap. Well, then twenty years
from now you still won't be a ten handicap, right,
So even with injuries, I don't I know with me,
when I blew out my kneees on my shoulder, it's like, okay,
they tell me. It's it's like, let's say this, this
is seven months, Well you're all your mind is always
like seven months. They don't know me, right, I'm gonna
(02:04:05):
get it down in five and a half. So I
just wonder where they are. And then it always comes
down to how does that player feel. Hater would be
different than a brayw who would be different than your
don who'd be different than Paratus, and it's hard for
us to accept. We wanted all to be same, like robotic,
but when you're in his role, you can't run out
there at eighty five percent because that will mean a
quick exit.
Speaker 7 (02:04:24):
Bennett Susa too, currently rehabbing in Florida and has resumed throwing.
That was a couple of days ago that we found
that out. Maybe he could be back for the playoffs.
So I mean, it's kind of pie in the sky.
But if you are able to get in, and like
I said too, you're only two and a half games
out of the second spot, if you are able to
overtake the Mariners to get back in the first place.
(02:04:46):
So a nice finish off this series, a good series
against the Mariners, and then a nice week next week
you don't even maybe even have to worry about that
wildcard round. But there is still a lot of work
to be done before we can even think about.
Speaker 5 (02:04:59):
The lot of work. And yet we're down to ten games.
But it feels like a lot of work left, right,
I agree.
Speaker 7 (02:05:04):
I mean, especially where the Astros sit at the moment,
as I mentioned, half a game behind the Mariners, and
I mean, you know, we I think had a good
idea too, that this weekend series was where it all
was going to come down to. Is whoever wins that series,
you win the West and you're on your home field.
They for the most part don't play well away from
T Mobile Park, and now you have a chance to
(02:05:26):
be able to overtake them.
Speaker 5 (02:05:28):
It would be really really nice too in this win streak.
It's it's kind of double ed edge. You want to
go and win the division, but there's also this, say
there's a vision winner. We can be a pain in
the ass to their to their hopes as well, and
see if we can get them reeling before the playoff,
because right now they're playing as good as anybody in
(02:05:49):
baseball and they are banging it for sure. They did
again last night.
Speaker 7 (02:05:53):
They and and that's the thing too, It's always been
the biggest thing with the Mariners is that it just
seems like they're always a bat away from being able
to overtake you. I think that Jerry Depoto finally said, oh,
Haino Suarez. Josh Naylor, Yeah, we're adding those guys because
we're serious about this thing.
Speaker 5 (02:06:12):
They've always come up short because of it, and now
they've added you know, when you're talking Seattle. Now you're talking.
There's some prodigious power in that lineup, and they're dangerous
and they are playing like it. And we know they
got good pitching. So your work's cut out for you.
Get them at home, but there's gonna be a battle.
And don't look now, man, but look at what the
A's did to the Red Sox. I mean, don't throw
(02:06:32):
that series away. The way that they play the Astros
and they got young guys just free swinging. I mean,
they're still, like I said, there's ten games ago. We
got to take care of this today. It's by no stretch.
The division's not over, obviously, wild cards over, but you
can extend this for you by taking care of the
Texas Rangers today to create some leeway in that part
of it.
Speaker 7 (02:06:51):
And another thing too, injury wise, we were talking about
with Hater and Susa Estak Paradis yesterday on Twitter no
caption know anything or Instagram, I'm sorry on his instant story,
just a picture of him standing on first base and
people are like, uh so, maybe Dana's not wrong that
this weekend. I mean, you've lost jord On and you're
(02:07:12):
not going to have him for this series probably for
the rest of the regular season. But no matter what
with peretis because the production was there and we appreciated
the production. What was the one thing that everybody was
saying about parretis when they lost him, of man, we're
losing those.
Speaker 5 (02:07:26):
At bats and the fact that he's been able to
as good as anybody give you as close to Bregman
on working counts as anybody in the lineup. He just has.
That's it's great specialty his and we know the guy
he replaced was as good as anybody in the league
at doing that, you know, and understanding the strike zone.
It'd be a great benefit to have him, and you're
(02:07:46):
probably gonna need him. And if if the injuries as
significant as they kind of we feel it is walking
boot and no timetable. Like the hater situation, you should
probably go into this thinking we're gonna have to win
a playoff series without jord On, and if you get
him for that playoff series, well, god bless you. I
don't think you're seeing him. You're sure as hell not
going to see him in Seattle. I mean here against
(02:08:08):
Seattle and then the last two series. I don't think
you're going to run him out there at eighty percent.
It's too risky.
Speaker 7 (02:08:13):
What's at stake for the astros we talked about a
little bit, but they also seem like this part of
their team really gets what the assignment is.
Speaker 5 (02:08:21):
We'll discuss that here.
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Speaker 1 (02:09:58):
We're going to have to turn this over to Sean
Oh no more.
Speaker 3 (02:10:04):
Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (02:10:07):
And Sean, I mean sure as you're born. You know
you've asked Diana Brown before about small ball. I would
say situational hitting. Last night, at least a couple A
handful of examples that I can think of is the
very first inning, you get the leadoff single from Jeremy Pania,
that's nice. You get the double down the left field
line by Carlos Korea, and you're like, okay, hey, here
(02:10:29):
we go. Well we got runners on second and third,
nobody out. But then you kind of then slink back
into reality. We're like, oh, yeah, we've seen this before.
We know how this goes. Somebody hits a taper to
a third base the infield's end, so you can't score
the run. Christian Walker strikes out. But situational hitting number one,
Jose Al Tuve, I gotta lift this ball somewhere. I
(02:10:52):
gotta put this ball in the air and off the bat.
You're thinking he lifted it up in the air. Hell,
he's got a chance to put that thing in the
crow for boxes deep enough, Jeremy Panna, he can jog home.
He didn't, but he could, and you score the run
right there. I believe it was the third inning, Jose
Al Twove laying down a bunt, and.
Speaker 5 (02:11:13):
He's going to try on that a lot lately. He has,
I mean, just because trying to find any way to
go on he's trying to get the you know, the
hand eye there, trying to be able to barrel up
the baseball.
Speaker 7 (02:11:24):
Do all those different types of things. But does that
and you move the runners up second and third. And
I had made the joke at the time that I said,
Ross Villareal and the tenth inning show will take all
of your bunt calls, every single one of them if
you score both of these runs. They only scored one.
But still, But let me ask you this. Now, you
brought this bunt thing up. Why the disdain not just
(02:11:45):
by disdain, Dan, but why And maybe you don't have
disdain for it, you just bring it up the situation.
It's one thing to rely on bunting all the time,
be like a bunt, bunt butt like it wins championships,
But situational baseball does require bunting once in a while.
Why are we so down on it? Because this team
struggles to not give away outs, and you're giving away
an out.
Speaker 5 (02:12:07):
Even when you can't. You're having trouble pushing runners across
or getting them over and in scoring position when they're there,
you're struggling. So what's the difference in bunting and getting
first and second and getting to second third? Isn't that
the job? Perhaps it is, but I mean, why is
that job? Chain?
Speaker 7 (02:12:26):
But it's also though too, you can call for a bunch,
which in that case, that was when I was listening
to Robert and Steve and they both agreed. They were like, no,
that was on al tuo v al Twove just did
that on his own, all right.
Speaker 5 (02:12:37):
But when you say giving up at a bout, what's
giving up at a bet? Not doing your jobs? Giving
up at a bet? But is there any difference in
taking a full swing and popping out to centerfield or
popping out to the first basement? Was running from. I'm
not listening. I don't advocate. I'm a bunting when I
was playing a free swinger, I get all that. That
didn't sound right. You get my point? Yeah, with a
baseball bat in my hand, is it's on you. I
(02:12:57):
don't have pineapples upside down on my shoulder. You're good
so shopping. But I'm under saying why are because it's
not macho, because it's small ball. Yet you get a
general manager who's come on here and said I asked him,
I said, do you want to be a team that's
known as move rounds over to play small ball this
was last year, or just you just bang it now.
Of course you want to slug, and all the evidence
says if you can hit the ball out of the ballpark.
(02:13:18):
But I've never understood that. You can tell me batting
average doesn't matter. Guy hits three hundred, guy hits two twenty,
who's on basemore that average doesn't matter, So regardless of
all your the nerd analytics that we all love but
also get tired of when it's too much of it.
And then the other thing is I mean, so in
nineteen eighty or nineteen ninety four or in two thousand,
getting guy over and getting guys at second third and
(02:13:40):
doing your job, which was applauded. Now he squared it,
but yeah he got up in second there. But what
if he'd hit in the gap. Yeah, but what if
he pops out to first base? I mean, it's the same.
Speaker 7 (02:13:48):
And I think you just get a better result from
taking a swing because just because you try to execute
the bunt doesn't mean you're going to do it.
Speaker 5 (02:13:57):
Yeah, but you're also not going to execute the swing
and you're not going to actually and we said, well
swing and miss doesn't matter. Why doesn't swing and mismatter.
When you put the ball in play, you give an
opportunity for somebody to make an error or for it
to fall. I just the analytics and sometimes the thinking
of some How did the job change from nineteen ninety
five to twenty twenty five where getting runners in scoring
(02:14:18):
position matters? But you know what, we'd applaud runners on
first and second right hand her up, punches it to
the right side, hits a slow roller to second, throws
out the guy at first, fielder's choice, they move on
to second, third man. That's a great way to get
the runner aside. But you lay down a bunch and
push it down the first baseline, get him over a
second third. What are we doing bunting? So I don't
(02:14:38):
understand the that's like saying we're on the footway. I
threw a touchdown pass, so I ran it in for
a score. Oh gosh, unless you're a fantasy lover, Well,
why is that a problem. Now? Listen, you got your
cleanup hitter on and there's runners at first and third,
and he scores around a bunt because you're afraid of
hitting hitting into a double play, Then well, then I
(02:15:00):
got to check somebody's skull. I take Jordan's not scoring
around a butnt but in certain situations. And I understand
a guy struggling wants to lay down a bunt because
he's just trying to get something going. But I just
there's a time and a place for all of it.
And Dana said he'd rather be known instead of that
a small ball was more effective. That's why I said.
(02:15:21):
I was a tweet about the Texans talking about it,
and we heard our cack on it, but we did
the and it was a valid point on you know,
gimmick plays or you know, the okie dope play. We
don't do enough of that one thing that is right
and was asked on Twitter. I can tell you this,
Okie dope and trick plays do not win championships. You
know what wins it? Oh, they're fine and dandy, like
the pitch to Foles who throws the you know, throw
(02:15:43):
it back to Foles for the touchdown. You know what
wins championships? Doing the boring, same oldtables every single day,
but doing it right all the time. Now, it's not
gonna be all to me. You get my point. If
you execute that the trick plays will come. Trick plays
cannot sustain you. And when you may win a game
on a trick play, but it was the seventy other
plays that allowed you to get in a position to
(02:16:04):
run a trick play. It's the same thing here. Hit
the ball in the ballpark's great. This team doesn't hit
the val ball at the ballpark very much. We'll just
put the ball in play, though, and that's what Christian
Walker did say Louder put the ball in play, thank you,
whether that's swinging or moving somebody over via bunt. Do
I want somebody to square around five times a game? No,
but there is a time and a place with the
disdain for he bunnet. You're not giving away in at
(02:16:25):
bat if it's a successful at bat.
Speaker 7 (02:16:28):
In this case, it was there you go tout. That's right,
all right. So it's that time of the week. Astro
GM Dana Brown going to join us for his weekly visit.
We will do that right here on a Western Wednesday,
Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3 (02:16:42):
For the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 5 (02:16:44):
Continued, Hey, and welcome, man. It's great to talk to you.
Just on an Nex's and Oh's point of it is
what's your favorite thing your offensive club is doing right now?
Speaker 8 (02:16:57):
Yeah, the favorite thing is with scoring runs.
Speaker 5 (02:16:59):
So yeah, that's that's a good thing, right.
Speaker 13 (02:17:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (02:17:03):
I said, look, we have to score runs. When we
score four runs or more, our team is really good.
And you know the fact that us, the fact that
we are scoring runs right now, it gets me excited.
So I know that we can pitch and so you know,
we score runs with our win ball games.
Speaker 5 (02:17:22):
Yeah, Dana, are you seeing You've been begging for quality
at bats and we know kind of what that goes
under and you see it a little more expertise than
we do. But are you getting more quality at bats
with these runs? I mean it would seem like you are,
but in your eyes that you see, are you getting
them from the people you need them from?
Speaker 13 (02:17:40):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (02:17:40):
Last night, as you've noticed that, you know, we have
some really good at bats and that's why we were
able to put up six runs. And so we're getting
those quality at bats.
Speaker 17 (02:17:49):
Now.
Speaker 8 (02:17:50):
It's good time to get hot. You know, we're four
of our last five, we've won the last two series
and so you know we're starting to jail with the
right time. We got ten left and this is definitely
the time in the space where you want to get hot.
And so you know, we're we got the grom to night,
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you know, and this is going to be a big game.
And if we win this game, we put a little
distance between us and the Rangers, and you know, our
next target would be Seattle. Of course.
Speaker 5 (02:18:22):
Dana Brown astros GM on his weekly visit here on
Sports Talk seven ninety Dana, five years from now, what
are we going to be saying about aj blue Ball?
Speaker 8 (02:18:31):
Yeah, I think we're going to be saying that this
guy has a power arm. He could throw it up
to ninety eight. You know, you could use them out
of the pen. You could use them to start. And
he's just starting to scratch the surface of his ability.
You know, it looks weird because he's so young looking
out there, right, and you know, I look, I look
at him, and I'm like, man, you know, this guy
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has really got a chance to turn the corner. I
think he's not done physically yet, you know, from a
scouting eye, right, I think he's got a chance to
add some strength and some weight, and so that should
give him a little bit more you know, sustainability with
the velocity, and so yeah, I think I think we're
going to be looking back going, hey, this was you know,
this was a good guy that we that really extract
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came into his own in twenty twenty five. But really
now five years from they, I think he's gonna be
pretty good.
Speaker 5 (02:19:23):
Yeah, we know that the importance of the stars, the
Jordans and the l two Vas and Koreas. But this season,
like most seasons, and then in your past you've seen it,
it always takes There's always got to be somebody else
in a season that you know, with especially with all
your injuries, it has like a career type here. I
start to think about what paradis meant to you guys,
and has meant what Jake Myers has done. Hell hitting
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about one hundred points or eighty points higher than maybe
most expected. You look at your pid from blue ball
to Alexander, I mean, Jason, Alexander, you're getting it goes
on king Bullpen. I mean, there's a lot of guys
that we didn't expect that if quite frankly, have your
team in this position within striking distance the first place,
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it's been amazing to see the other guy from other
people's vantage point kind of carry your team at times
when it's been desperately needed this year.
Speaker 8 (02:20:12):
Yeah, that's what it's all about. You know. You take
it from like Zach Cole most recently, yep.
Speaker 21 (02:20:17):
Coming up and doing what he's done, you know, providing
you know, that left hand bat athleticism in the outfield,
popping a few home runs, really digging deep in that
batter's box, you know, doing a really good job. You know,
these guys, this is what the team is all about, right,
That's why it's one hundred and sixty two games. It's
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going to take an entire organization and that goes from
the front office, from the scouting, from player development, you know,
from all of the teams that you have in the
minor leagues to the major league team and staff. I mean,
it takes an entire organization to be you know, as
successful as we've been, you know, in this organization and
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I my cap tool, you know, the entire organization for
continuing to put out player after player time and time again.
And so it's really exciting to see the young players
come up. You know, even Murray, the way he's been throwing,
he's been really good.
Speaker 8 (02:21:17):
You know, you talked about blue ball, you know, Alexander,
you know, eight and oh in his last few starts,
he threw the ball actually better than you know, the
line score said, you know the other day. And so
all of these guys have come up and you know,
we talked about this last week about getting guys off waivers. Ye,
it takes an entire organization to do what we've done.
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And think about it, Sean, We've we've had twenty nine
guys on the IL. You know, Fangraft has us as
you know, the team that has suffered in the most
injury wise in terms of impact. You know, at one
point we had our number one, number two, number three
hitter on the IL. That's Penya, Preretis and Alvarez all
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on the IL at one time. I don't think any
team has suffered anything like that. And so these guys
have continued to show the grit. So we have faith
in this team. This is a good team and we
continue to battle.
Speaker 5 (02:22:12):
Have you ever, Dana, seen anything like it in all
your years of baseball? And you talk about resilience, but
we've seen a lot of injuries and other teams, but
the injuries and then to still be in a position
where it can be gut wrenching and says well, the
first guy's out, second guys out. There guys at twenty
eight of them and you're still you're within a half
game of first place. Have you ever been a part
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of an organization that that has been able to be
this successful with this much injury adversity?
Speaker 8 (02:22:39):
No, I mean it's very difficult to be that good.
And in order to be that good, you're going to
need some of the names that I mentioned a few
minutes ago about step how they stepped up. And so
it usually when you suffer this many injuries as an organization,
you know you're barely in it in the wildcard, like barely.
Speaker 5 (02:22:59):
And you're usually look into next year, Dana. That's usually
what happens, right, I mean, most teams that aren't as
talented as years, it's usually like, okay, we understand. It's
almost I don't want to say it's a hall pass year,
but it almost becomes that everything's gravy because you didn't
expect to be in the position.
Speaker 8 (02:23:14):
Yeah, it is gut wrenching to pay you the truth.
I mean, I watch this every day. I look at
the lineup every day, I have to watch it, look
at our il sheet every day, and it is gutriching
to watch it and to know that we have continue
to you know, battle through this and show the grit.
And you know, from Joe Spatta to all his coaching staff,
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those guys are taking what we hand them and getting
the most out of these guys. And that's when you
know you're a part of something special. And you know
we just need to continue to do it. You know,
we have ten games left. It's pedal to the metal.
It's go time, and it's let's get it done. And
I think right now we control our fate. You know
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we can. Look we play well these next ten games,
we'll will win the division and then we'll get deep
into the postseason. We'll get we'll be able to hit reset.
But this is our time. I think this is the
time that we need to get hot. He's last ten
It's sprint time. Like you're on the last leg. It's
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time to sprint, all right.
Speaker 5 (02:24:21):
Dana Brown asked for GM for a few more minutes
here on his normal Wednesday visit. Dana, speaking of gut wrenching,
when you saw the big fellow limp, I mean, I
don't know if was I rolling gut wrenching or you
gotta be kidd me your initial thoughts and where are
we now with his injury?
Speaker 8 (02:24:38):
Yeah, the initial thoughts were, oh, my goodness, not again.
And you see, you know how he made an aggressive
move to go to home to score the run, and
you know, he just tells you he you know, Jordan
is a grinder and and just to make the attempt
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to score there. And I think he could have just
held it up, but he looked he's all in. And
I mean, it makes it really tough to watch when
your best hitter, you know, goes down for you know,
what we think could be you know, a couple of weeks,
but we're not sure right now. We'll know, you know,
like in a couple more days. We got to give
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it a couple of days to see if the soreness
can go out. You know, we got good news on
the initial MRI and the imaging that there's no fracture,
and so look, we're trying to stay optimistic about this,
but make no mistake, these guys have grinded through everything
to continue to maintain and to hold on to where
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we are to try to get this division one and
get deep into proceeds.
Speaker 5 (02:25:49):
And Dan, I know that there's no you're not going
to put a day on it because it's silly and
you're not the doctor and stuff, and you look at
the images, which was good news, as you said, But
if it's two weeks, I mean, in truth, just from
fans emotional standpoint, the playoffs are really will you're hoping
to get him back for the playoffs. You can't really
count on him being in the lineup in the next
ten games, can you.
Speaker 8 (02:26:11):
Yeah, I still don't know. We're hopeful, but it takes it,
you know, when you you know, frame your ankle like that,
it takes the soreness and the swelling. It takes a
few days to at least get a feel for where
that is, how much pressure you can put on it.
And so we don't want to, you know, be too
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quick to put them on the I L because if
you're nine is ready in eight days, you want them
back out there, you know, instead of doing the ten
day I L, we'll take the two days on the
back end, So we'll wait a couple more days, and
if it's really looking like it needs to be the
ten day i L, we'll do the ten day i L.
We can retro it back. And so look, we're we're
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maintaining that we're going to be hopeful, but we'll make
the adjustments in like forty eight hours.
Speaker 5 (02:27:07):
Got a great veteran team, Dana. We've discussed this, the
resilience and grind to your team. But when this happens
again to Yord, because we've talked, we know how important
he is. I mean, come on, you take the best player,
best hitter out of any lineup. It's a blow to
your team. But the emotional roller coaster, not just for you,
but for your ball club and Joe and the lineup
and all of it. If we get him back, oh
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my gosh, he's raking and it looks like Jordan, and
then all of a sudden it happens again. How does
your team, aside from being a good veteran group that's
seen it before, how do they continue to be resilient
through that, Because it's got to be a beatdown and
an emotional bummer, you know, like, oh my gosh, this
guy again. How do we overcome this? How do you
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how do you keep your team emotionally into it?
Speaker 11 (02:27:52):
Yeah, it's a roller coaster ride of emotions. Of course,
we know the grind of baseball, and so you know,
our guys. Of course, they look at this and you
know it's it's a good punch, no doubt about it.
You know, when you have a team full of good
players and you lose one of your best players, it's
a cut punch for sure. But everybody know you got
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to get up off the campus and you got to
You've gotta fight, you know, that's that's part of what
we do. And we've seen major league teams, you know,
win their division, go deep into the postseason, win the
World Series. Uh, you know, without their best player, you know.
I mean I experienced this in Atlanta when we lost
Akunya twenty twenty one. And so you can lose your
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best players still win. No one wants to do it,
but it could happen, and so you've got to get
up off the campus. You got to punch back. You
got to keep fighting.
Speaker 8 (02:28:44):
You can't throw into pal that's not an option. So look,
it hurts, but we got to get up and we
gotta fight.
Speaker 5 (02:28:53):
From a GM standpoint, not not a doctor standpoint, which
I hate halving you to be every week other show,
and I know you do too. There's much better things
we'd rather talk about. Whether it's hater or parades. Let's
just start there. What are the chances we see them
in twenty twenty five, either one of them real deep
chances we get to see him.
Speaker 8 (02:29:14):
Yeah, I think we're actually talking about a Parrettis coming
back this weekend. We're still working through that. There's a
there's an outside chance that he could be back for
you know, this weekend with the you know, Seattle series
coming up. He's doing that well in Florida right now,
and so you know, we're staying optimistic there here. It's
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more like if we see him and to be at
some point in the postseason, you know. And Alvarez we're
still on hold because of the swelling, you know, of
the ankle. There's this splane, but there's still a lot
of swelling. So you know, those three big ones. You know,
it's it's tough to stomach, but you gotta you've got
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to stay in the grind and the grid and you
got to show that, look, you're still can you still
can win games, which we've done a lot without Alvarez
this year, you know, and you see you see that
the Brave use seven out of eight and save opportunities.
So look, he can close out games and you know
Parretis getting him back, that would be pretty special because
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you know he's going to see a lot of pitches
and set the lineup and set the tone of the lineup.
Speaker 11 (02:30:28):
As I mentioned, you.
Speaker 8 (02:30:29):
Know when we went down uh with Pinya, Parrettis and
our resk all at the same time, that was a
difficult space for us to be in. This year, we've
we grinded through that and right now we just have
to continue to show the grit.
Speaker 5 (02:30:45):
Dane. I'll leave you on this. If Prade is, if
he gets back in this lineup this weekend, is he
gonna with that quick twitch movement?
Speaker 8 (02:30:52):
Are you?
Speaker 5 (02:30:53):
Do you see him playing the position or dhing for
you guys.
Speaker 8 (02:30:58):
Yeah, initially it will be the you know, I can't
say it's gonna be DH the whole time, but initially
it would be DH. I think that the idea would be,
let them DH give him a day off. Let them
DH give him a day off, like you gradually bring
him back into this, you know, because you don't want
you don't want to get him back and try to
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play him every day, you know, and he's coming back
a lot quicker, you know, than you had expected, so
you want to really gradually bring him back into this,
but it'll probably start off at the DH position for sure.
Speaker 5 (02:31:33):
All Right, I lied, I got to leave you with this.
I'm a glutton for punishment. I like these competitive races
where you guys got to do what you do, and
that's because I like the experience the ASTs have brought
to They seem to know how to win under a
half game. We know what it looks like. I know
that's not what you want to hear. A fifteen game
lead would be great, but there's got to be a
part of you data because you're competitive and you've played it,
(02:31:54):
and you scouted that you kind of love this, don't you.
Isn't there a party that says, man, this is the
way it's supposed to be coming too the last week
of the season. Ten games. Although it's not good for
the emotional part of it, but I got to believe
the competitor and you loves this stuff and trust your
team more in this than you would the casual fifteen
game lead with ten games to go.
Speaker 8 (02:32:14):
Yeah, listen, I gotta be honest. Just to be playing
competitive games in September, it is pretty special. It's great
for the organization. It's outstanding for our sport. I love
a good competitive game. Yes, what pressure took me five? Right,
But it really adds, It really adds the love of
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the game and that rush that you get. You know,
last night we're up six to one, you hate going
through the team's coming back. You know, it's the game
is getting more pressurized, and all of a sudden you
win that game and the ninth with you know, with
the way we ended the game and closing it out.
(02:32:57):
You know, there's this roar that comes from the Yeah,
we love all of that. Well, we like it to
be a lot less stressful.
Speaker 22 (02:33:04):
Absolutely, but the edge that it adds to the game
for the people who love the game, even on both
sides and your component, your opponent, Yes, it adds a lot.
Speaker 8 (02:33:17):
But can I do it a little less stress absolutely?
Speaker 5 (02:33:21):
Yeah. Well, you guys are stomping the grapes now, but
when it's all over and you put a ring on
your finger, it'll be kind of nice to drink the
wine too. That's when you look back and say, man,
I love that grind. The grind you're speaking out you're in,
So stomp the grapes now and drink the wine later, right,
my man?
Speaker 8 (02:33:36):
Absolutely let's get this thing going. We got ten left
and I think there's a hot streak coming. I feel it,
I really feel it. So let's go after the Well.
Speaker 5 (02:33:45):
They're started on the right foot in these two games
and look forward to another and won't be easy against
the ground, but that's the way you like it. Data,
great stuff. We'll look forward to talking to you next
week and hopefully that leads extended. Look forward to it. Man,
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (02:33:56):
Absolutely fired up about our conversation next Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (02:33:59):
Can't wait. There you go. That's dand Brown will come
back and discuss on our way out on a Wednesday.
Here in Sports Talk seven to.
Speaker 3 (02:34:05):
Ninety and were the Sewn Salsbury Show continued.
Speaker 7 (02:34:11):
Mentioned that they're taking a couple of days off, Like,
don't even mention to him what you're doing. I mean,
because if you say that, then he's, oh, oh, well,
look at all the time off.
Speaker 5 (02:34:19):
Sean gets. It's all the time off, Seawan gets. It'll
take me six years to catch up to the time
off they've taken. Yeah, exactly, okay, exactly Ross grinds Ross
shows up. No, I'm not talking about Ross and him.
I'm talking about that they meaning anybody who takes vacation exactly.
I finally took my two weeks vacation for the first
time in my eight years here and Matt, they call
it personal time for a reason. They want to keep
(02:34:39):
your ass. I'm actually going. So I got a son
getting married this weekend. See there you go time off
to see his kid, Matt, And that's got time off,
use them and getting them back. Yeah, hey, you get
I finally discovered that this year, Sean, after all this
I took vacation, you wouldn't see me for six months
because I got enough bills up. We don't get to
carried over and they give you that time.
Speaker 8 (02:34:57):
I got to get it.
Speaker 5 (02:34:58):
I guess what I'm going to use that time? You go.
Speaker 7 (02:35:00):
Good stuff from Dana Brown, good stuff from Sean Tripoli,
Emmanuel Elmore. A lot of love for that guy today.
Well deserved. It is very very much warranted. I'm Dan Matthews.
As I mentioned Ross the Matt Thomas Show. With Ross
coming up right now. We will talk to you in
twenty hours
Soulsby. Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury to usc Troup, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthews. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Here's the O two god name sweeper outside strike out
number seven for blue body strands a runner on third base.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Here's the one one two daz breaking ball ripped.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Left field, hooking toward the line and it bangs off
the out of town scoreboard. Myers will score carroten he
stops at third. A run scoring double by Yaner Diaz and.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
His three zip. Here's the one two driven up the
metal base hit Cartini scores.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
They're gonna send Yiner Diaz and the ball is gonna
be late.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Astro score two more on this single by Santez. It's
five nothing.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Here's a two to one from win and that's wrapped
to left field to base it and that's gonna knock
get another run. It's six to nothing on the Astros
sixth head of the inning.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Ray you set Rodder takes off Sway, got a mess,
got him on the slider away and that is the ballgame.
It got interesting late, but the Astros hold on to defeat.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
The Rangers six to five.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Astros maintained a three game lead over the Guardians with
a final wildcard spot and are still a half game
behind Seattle for the AL West League.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
Got a little bit more interesting then we wanted it
to late last night over at dyk In Park, and
with that we say away we go in good morning
here on the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Docs seven to ninety,
Robert Ford giving you the final details of that one
over there where the Astros go into the eighth inning
up six to one, then they came out of the
(02:02):
eighth inning up six to five, and then you get
an infield hit to start things off. I believe it
was Jonaheim with one out an O two count, which
I mean, geez, Sean, how many of those do we
have to see this year where it's oh two and
you're just like, just don't throw him anything in the zone.
You don't have to just get him on three pitches.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
It's fine in the zone, dude. That's what we do here.
We like throwing the zone.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
Well, if you do, then make sure it's going to
be swung on and missed. I mean, I understand that,
you know that's kind of a two and two situation there,
but I mean, it's just like, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
You don't want to throw cheese right down the middle,
is what you're telling me. I mean it was.
Speaker 7 (02:40):
It was a decent enough pitch. It was low in
the zone. And we found out last night the home
play umpire was not calling that, but gives up that hit.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Low on the zone. Maybe he likes it low on
the zone though apparently he did. Yeah he did.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
Left handed hitters usually do, and they usually do a
lot worse with it. But luckily Jonaheim only hit it
for a single, and then well he was left on
first base, and so was Josh Smith on second, and
thankfully because the Astros pick up their eighty third win
of the season.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Well, who was on third? See what I did there?
Nobody was, well, no, you see what I did? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
Yeah, third base coach, I mean, but not standing on third.
But at least in this case, I mean, just top
to bottom. Last night for the shows, you asked aj
blue Ball to go out there give you some innings.
I mean, I don't know, man, I I would have
sent him back out for another. That guy, that guy
was cruising.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Yeah he uh, he's been really frigging good man. The
guy's got. This is if you're watching him and you're
this organization, aren't you think we got we got a
stud for the future. I am. He just seems to.
And we've had a lot of callers called in and
want blue ball pitching more and more often it being
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one of those guys. And he continues to come through
regularly and he can get some strikeouts too, man, which
I like he can.
Speaker 8 (03:55):
He is.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Uh, he's been in different roles, pretty outstanding for him.
So I'm looking back. I can't wait to see what
he is down the road. But he's been really good
when needed this year. And you could have run him
out there. You could have run him out there for
more won inning the way he was going it felt
like to me. But it's it's the same old story now.
(04:16):
You don't want to You'll take him anyway you can
get him without complaining, won't we all? But there are
things they need to sew up, and you know they're
one swing of the one swing of the bat away
from it being a different ending. And boy, would that
have been a devastating way to lose a baseball game
Because Mariners hammered, hammered another win out in a big
in big fashion Roley Homer's two more times. I mean
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they're rolling, man. So it's it was every single game.
You have to look, it's going to be like this.
So they've sued themselves winning this series. But because Seattle listen,
they're going to get in the playoffs. Just a question
is when are they playing and how prepared and healthy
will they be. You're battling for the division, but you
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can't think like it. Once again, they've played the last
two games, even though last night was a little too
close for comfort, they've played the last two games as
if Okay, it is single elimination. That's going to take
care of our business and sense urgency. And I thought
the pitching staff, you know what, Sans de la Santos
was pretty good, right. They allowed them to get back
in it little too. The one thing about teams like
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the Mariners and the Rangers in this division is they're
so capable of that two innings that just boom boom,
boom boom. Before you know it, they've hung eight runs
on you. They've got that ability and with some power.
So they I'll tell you, damn well, you were a
little nervous going to the ninth inning, weren't you very exactly,
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So that would have that could have been one of
those who you say, man, how do you overcome this one?
But I love the fact that, see we talked about
it a little latitude. If you're up, if you hang
four or five six runs on somebody and you get
in good pitching and they hit a solo home run
or hit a two run job, you still you still
are in great position. The Astros have just given themselves
that much space. But you know, it's it's two to one,
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it's three to one. Fortunately, last night the game got
away from in the end. They were able to close
it out. But and that's given up five runs in
the last couple of innings. And the key here too
is they didn't score past it was it the fourth
or fifth inning they got their last run. Talking about
the Astros, it was the fourth is when they got
sixth run. Yeah, then they got shut down from then
on the four, five, and six. Yeah, they're going to
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have to you know, have the close out as well.
So take it, man. Well, while we can complain about
the small things right now, alls it is is survival victory.
So you can get in one way or the other.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Well, it's all that matters. I mean, I've said it
numerous times and I'll continue to say it. There is
no college football playoff committee here. There's there's not like
you know, Rob Manfred and a couple of owners and
some former players sit in a conference room somewhere and say, yeah,
you know, let's have the Blue Jays here, let's have
the Tigers here.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
None of that. It's all standings and it's all wins,
and well there's no there's no point system for the
quality you'll win there. There you go. So, I mean,
you know, it's none of that strength to schedule any
of those things.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
That doesn't matter. It's all right, what's your record. Do
you have a better record than somebody else? Well, then
you're in this spot. And the Astros now with the
win last night, moved to eighty three and sixty nine.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I'll tell you what too.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Here's the thing is, if you are able to overtake
the Mariners this weekend, you head into the final week
of the season where it seemed like all was lost,
getting the second seed is not out of the question.
I mean, for right now, Detroit has I believe, just
a two game lead on you, two and a half
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is what they're in front of you right now, for
a chance to be the second seed in the American
League West. So for all of the belly aching and
for all of the worry about injuries, which there's even
more reason to be worried about injuries, especially with what
we found out yesterday about Jordan.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
I mean, the.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
Astros have a chance to put themselves in a pretty
decent position.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yeah, I'm gonna stop right there. I'm greedy, I am
when it comes to winning games and scoring runs. I'll
worry about Detroit when I make sure that I just
just win, you get because right the thing is, you're
not going to be you don't see Detroit again. You're
not going to control one thing unless it's playoffs. You're
not going to control what they do. So if they
win and take care of their business and the key,
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you just you know, go on a streak where you win.
We have twelve games to go going into this, and
you go nine out of twelve, then you give yourself
a chance. But all win the division and if they
get the second seat, that'd be great. After all this,
and I don't know what the number was said, but
gamblers are looking at this saying, oh, the over under
on wins loss. I don't know if it was like
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an eighty six or eighty five or eighty eighteen, it
was eighty six. Well here, here we are, here, we
are sitting at it. I should know too, because I
think I bet it. But I got to go back
and remember if I did ant slip, if it was
the over under on wins this year, and you do
just looking at it right now, you're going to be hovering.
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Unless you go on a great streak and win seven
in a row, then you'd be at ninety and you're safe.
But right now, if you're one of those that had
the over or the under, you're like, okay. And here's
the problem is if you took the end, you're like, well,
I want the under, but I want the Astros to
win the division comfortably. So but with what are we
down to now? Ten games today will be there's there's
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ten to go. It's level ten. Yeah, there you go,
so you know, go take care of it and if
you get the two seed grade. But it is fascinating
after all this that they're in position that, with a
little help, they could be in that position, which is odd.
I still I was asked yesterday last night, and I interviewed.
Somebody on a show said, Astros baseball still being talked
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about with the football, So I said, of course, especially
with the Texans, and two, I said, but it is,
I said, but right now we're all treading a little
lightly winning are offensively? Are they good enough to do this?
Yet with all the injuries. It's fascinating that they're in
this position, and tribute to them. But nobody cares unless
you take care of your business regardless, because the excuse
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is they're not making them, so we should neither. Well,
I mean there's two sides to that too. I mean
there's you know exactly that nobody cares, do you take
care of your business? And then the other one.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
I mean, I've seen it firsthand of a team that's
in a postseason push and you know, you falter down
the last week and a half of the season and
you're out. I mean, twenty eleven Braves are a prime example.
I remember standing outside of the Cardinals clubhouse because we
were going to go in and talk with Lance Berkman,
he was with the Cardinals then, and we're all watching
the Braves Phillies game and Freddie Freeman grounds into a
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double play to end. It ends the Braves season and
sends the Cardinals into the into the postseason. And oh,
by the way, the Cardinals win the World Series that
year over these same Rangers. But last night, with the win,
the Astros now put four games of cushion between them
and the Rangers. And the funny thing is if they
don't overtake the Mariners, which right now it doesn't seem
like that's going to be an easy proposition because the
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Mariners just don't lose. I mean, they literally really have
won their last ten games. They're ten to zero in
their last ten games. So you'd like to see them
start to lose maybe one or two here in Kansas
City and then kind of roll that into Houston here
and you're able to take care of business against them.
But I mean the Cleveland Guardians now or the team
that you're kind of trying to hold off, and now
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the Astros, by the way, have the second wild card spot.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
They're half a game in front of the Red Sox
at this moment.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
So just I mean, it's the age old adage, Sean,
you win games, everything else takes care of itself.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
You can't go anywhere. You're not moving forward if you're
not winning, regardless of what the other team does, because
if they lose too, you're staying in the same spot.
So you've got to win to give yourself a chance.
I know that sounds well sewn. That's pretty obvious. Well,
as we always say on this show, the team that
scores the most runs wins one hundred percent of the time.
Oh say that again. The team that scores the most
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runs wins one hundred percent of the time. Team scores
the ghost runs, yeah, wins. And I really put out
Brian loves He said, listen, he really like one of
his great He goes, here's with my great analysis. I
underlined it three times. Oh yeah, he's put exclamation points.
He said, the team that scores the most runs, interesting
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wins one hundred percent of time. And I said, you
sure they win one hundred percent of the time. He said, yeah,
one hundred percent of time.
Speaker 8 (12:18):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
So there you it's a it's a staff that you
can't get anywhere else. There you go, Well, that's what
we do here.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
We're a full service operation here on the Shawn Salisbury Show.
You know that every weekday morning six to ten am.
That's us right here, all right, So we'll talk a
lot of Astros here seven one three, two one two
five seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Also too, is there.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Somebody over on Kirby that believes the team is so
close to being complete? We'll get that in here over
the course of the next four hours. Is Dana Brown
going to join us coming up at nine point thirty
for his weekly visit? But coming up next you saying
one thing, but then you're pressed and you're saying something else.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
We'll discuss that here.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
It is the Shawn Salisbury Show on a Western Wednesday,
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Let the celebration start more.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Ninety yesterday, delivering the news. We had told you that
the Astros would have more information on Jordan's ankle. That
went at as Ross said yesterday, at a ninety degree angle,
which I'm sure you've twisted an ankle, Sean. I'm sure
you've done all of those things.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Yeah, you won right now. The needs fused together, and
I've had torn ligaments in my ankle and playing sports
in high school. I know exactly what he's going through
and rolled over on it and it's not fun.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
So I mean, do you like unintentionally get the Scottie Scheffler,
you know, like where it's just like, man, his ankle's
not supposed to do that.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
No, I know it's not supposed to Yeah, but the
problem is with Scheffler what his ankle's not supposed to do?
That ends up about three twenty five sitting in the
middle of the fairway or a shot a five iron
from two thirty to three feet. The rest was yeah.
And I had a high ankle spraying before getting ready
to play Elway at Stanford, I had, but we had
a bye week. It took me two weeks icing it
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and doing it every day. I'm talking about good mind's
a high ankle, but just talking about it round that
part of the body, right, and I don't know for
Jordan if it's lower high regardless, and taped it up
and then spatted your shoe went in and and we
kicked their ass just as a sidebar, which is good.
At Stanford. I was like, when I can say we
beat Elway, which is every time I played him, when
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you shook hands with el Wade to say, hey man,
nice teeth, uh oh, I said, uh, I loved I
loved you as a horse on mister d. John's one
of the best people of all time.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Man.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
But I saw, I did the feeling, and it took
the two weeks and even when I got into the game,
tape job, high ankle tape job and the spat. But
we had a week off, so it was two weeks
to play in a football game. And I don't have
severe Mine was fairly severe. Fortunately was on my front
left ankle, so my back plant ankle opposite of him
at the plate was okay, but a little tender. But
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you know, you deal with it, and then then adrenaline
ca and you just say, hey, man, a high ankle sprains,
A high ankle spran's taped up. If it gets hurt worse,
then you're just going to deal with it. So but
you ain't missing that game. And I would imagine the
closer they get, but you want him for the postseason,
and now you're getting to a point and I would
imagine they're even going to be I don't know if
Testes are maybe testy about this because it's been bothered.
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I imagine the situation they're in. I know you want
to hear from the situation they're in, but they keep
meeting the Rangers and extend themselves and that they're probably
not going to rush him back. But it's like, well,
do we wait one more game or two because get
in because you're going to want him at full strength
because the last thing you want to come back and
he reaggravates it next thing, you know. Although you know
how I am, I hate day. If you're hurt, you play,
(15:38):
if you're injured, you don't. That's how I feel. So
his must be an injury. But it's just been a
hell of a bummer year for him.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
It definitely has been. And you waited all this time
to try to get him back. Now you finally do,
and this happens for sure. Joa spotty yesterday talking in
the Astros dugout before the game, just how severe is
this injury.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
He's got a pretty significant ankle spring, so this is
going to keep him out for for a while. Let's
not get into days, weeks any of that. We are
going to take one day at a time, but this
is going to take some time to heal. We don't
have that many days left on the regular season, so
we are going to He's in there getting some treatment,
(16:18):
getting some work done, so you know, hopefully it's not
He's not out for.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
For a long period of time.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It's just a point of that point.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
Yeah, you know we need him in there, right, But
those other things that we can't control. You know, it's
a it's a freak accident happens on a baseball field.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
But you know, but that's not what we what we
need right now.
Speaker 9 (16:43):
But we do have guys here that on the stand
of the situation that we in, we got we got talent,
We got guys who want it. We got guys that
can fight and and and and get us through this
do this stretch that I expect those guys to do
just that? Out did I just what did you just hurt?
I say, this is going to take some time.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I know, I'm wondering for your roster.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
You're gonna play men?
Speaker 9 (17:04):
Sure that listen, one day at a time. Chat Okay,
I'm not gonna give you days weeks. What we're gonna
do next, He's gonna have to set down and wait.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
Okay, all right, So Chandler Rome, all of us have
to sit down and wait a couple of things there.
I think three things. Number one pretty significant. Number two
A be out a while and then a very fair
follow up by Chandler Rome of all right, well're you
gonna put him on the IL? And then you get
the response from Joe A spotted there. Did you not
hear what I just said? Well, no, we did hear
(17:35):
what you just said. You said's pretty significant now for
a while. So the follow up is very fair to
ask are you putting this guy on the IL?
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Yeah? But and it is. And Chandler Roam does a
great job. And one thing about him, he's in there
every talk about the grind, the ashles on. He's on
the grind too, every single day, as is the Brian mctaggarts.
The people that are round it every fact. Okay, right,
there's a bunch of them. I'm gonta leave anybody out.
You know who you are. And it's great because they
give information that we wouldn't otherwise get. And I love
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Chandler Rome's approach because he's looking for answers the why.
But both can be right. First of all, this city
can't bitch about Joe as spot is lack of fire
if they don't like it. And then when he gets
a little little red ass and I actually liked it,
and I don't think Chandler Rome was offended by it. No, Chandeler,
Rome's plenty tough, plenty mentally tough, and he knows it.
(18:27):
Sometimes when you ask a tough question, which we got
to go through every Wednesday with Dana Brown, that you
don't know what the response is going to be. But
who cares. He's dealt with a lot of time. Yeah,
who cares. It's not that big hang on, it's not
that big a deal. It isn't you're asking for a
fiery manager. Then when he gives a little spicy answer,
you don't think he's pissed you. You don't think he's
(18:47):
bothered that the Jordan's heard again on a freak accident.
You don't think there's more pressure on him than there
is on us. Now, listen, I don't defend everything Joe said.
I don't agree with everything the handle, but we also
complain about well, who knows what's gonna happen with his injury.
He'll hopefully sooner than later. I think you should see
this story between the lines. When the questions asked, he said,
it's a significant injury. So if you're thinking he's going
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to be back in a day or two, or a week.
He's not. They're at least telling me now is we've
been begging for them to be a little more specific.
Significant is a key word here. This is a significant
injury we don't know and the reason why they're not
putting him on the aisle. Which was a great question
by Chandler Roman a follow up regardless of what Joe said,
you're with her each other one hundred if your wife
(19:28):
or girlfriend response and you live with her at the
end of five years later, we mad because well, you
get a little short with her, she gets a little
short with you. Oh well get over it and move on.
It's a great question the response. He had answered it earlier,
and he just wanted to follow up for purposes of
making sure we know where we are. And it was
a great follow up, a little spice side. It didn't
sound to me like Joe was pissed. It sounded like
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he had a little spice saying, listen, we don't have
any other answers, and it's good both ways, and it
can be right. So I don't want to hear anybody
bitch about it. Well, how dare him?
Speaker 8 (19:58):
No?
Speaker 5 (19:59):
And I'll bet you if you Chandler Roam Chandler Rome
would say he had no problem with it. Joe covers,
he covers. Joe's out there every day, as is Chandler Roam.
So it's good both ways. I don't mind the fire.
And everybody's complaining, Well, they don't tell us about injuries.
This we bitch and complain every day about Well, can
he be more forthright? He said it's significant and it's
going to be out longer than we hope. Basically, and
(20:19):
I paraphrase that part of it. So, what's the deal.
Your Daine ain't coming back in this regular season. I'm
just telling you he's not. That's You've got ten games
to go. Significant ankle injuries don't just heal overnight. Now
he may come to you and say, my threshold pin
can handle it. I'm eighty percent judging from a guy
who's been there, it's going to be difficult to do.
So just hope it gets right. And if it says
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it's day to day, this is day to day. A
high ankle sprain is literally day to day. I don't
know what else we want to hear. Do you want
it to be specific? And sod I went in there
and looked at the images of myself, and I could
tell you this, there's a slight little thing with this legament.
It's a it's a it's a high ankle sprain, or
it's an ankle sprain. I mean, how specific what do
we need? Are we just fishing for bs now to
try and say, well, see they're lying to us, Akin,
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nobody's lying to you. You're uncertain Now if all of
a sudden a week later and it's the swelling's gone down,
I say, you know what in his training and rehab
that we see a little ligament damage, A little ligament damage.
Is this you can approach it the same way. Sometimes
a little ligament damage you can still play on. We'll
see a week from now or ten days from now.
It's significant. It's a bummer, and you got to go
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forward like you're not gonna happen if you get him,
to get him. But why are we up in arms
about a spot? As answer? And why are we up
in arms about? There was nothing disrespectful about his question,
You guys beg We all do for a little spice
from Joe, and you got it from a guy who
can quite frankly handle it. Channel Rome's plenty tough. So
when I when I hear people, well you better get after.
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What's Dana Brown gonna tell us any different today? He
can't tell us any different. What was he gonna say? Well,
Joe said it's significant. I say it's significant. It's a
day to day thing. We don't know. We're not putting
him on the IL yet because well roster situation. But
we're just trying to figure out maybe we get him
in four day to day means it could be three days,
it could be twenty five days. So I don't know.
We are always looking for something that bothers us if
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Chandler Rome's not bothered by, which I doubt he is.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I, like I said, he knows
the business and he's damn good at it. And Joe
a spot is you know how many million questions has
he been asked this year about an injury? And rightfully so,
they've been hurt to day to day. Man, we're gonna
do our best. We'll hopefully get him back. And now
it's like, this is a significant ankle injury and it
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was a freak accident. Well what else you wanted to say? Well,
what are you guys looking for? Well, what are you
looking for. They want a game that will bitch about
it because they gave up five runs and almost lost it,
and then Joe Spott. It gives you a little spice
on an answer. Media tough, media can handle it. I
can handle anything, Dana Brown tells me. Chandel Rome can
handle anything. Joe's Spott has dealt with those guys respectfully
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every day, as has the media dealt with him respectful.
It's easy to be respectful to Joey's a great guy
and a good manager, and he's got a team that
has zero business being in first place or close to
it by half a game out of first place. Zero
and about eighty percent of the season they've been at
first place. Yes, there's a lot of there's a lot
of warts on him. Yes, this is going to be
a struggle, but I'll be damned most places we'd be
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calling for coaching. Dude, you've been through forty seven injuries
and a couple of them do your best players and
you lost two of your corner best players in the
offseason and you're still here. You've lost Garcia again. You're
trying mccolors isn't the same. You're trying to get Javier
the same Fromber's gone into Hell in the handbasket. Ten
of his last starts, nine of them, and he hasn't
be Oh, by the way, we're bothered that he gets
(23:34):
a little spicy on an injury because he's been asked
five thousand times stop the say we asked out people
to be so sensitive and be well, you get their feelings.
If Jaylor's feelings aren't hurt, nobody should be, and I
don't think they are. He's damn good and he should
have asked it, and he did. He reiterated it. I
told just day to day so and quite frankly, he
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doesn't owe us. He doesn't owe us as fans or
media to dig deep down into the medical hip of
history about if Ord. How the hell would he know?
Doctors don't you. I can tell you I've done it.
Doctors have no idea on a sprained ankle, how long
it's gonna take a lot of it's going to be
incumbent upon the number forty four, which we ask all
the time, what's his threshold of pain? Maybe we got
(24:18):
to start questioning that more than we got to start
questioning the answer to a coach who really has got
to manage a baseball team, and he's not doctor a spada,
and quit judging Dana Brown by not telling you everything.
He doesn't. He comes on here to talk baseball and
he's got to be a medical report every day, and
we're gonna ask him and you're gonna get the same
answer that Joe Gaden. It's called taking care of it
(24:39):
in house. What do you wanted to say? You ord
on to be back tomorrow, and if he's not, everybody's pissed.
You're going to be back in fifteen days. If he's
back sooner, they're a hero. If he doesn't play anymore,
well why didn't they tell us? Because guess what on
an ankle sprain, you don't friggin know. So what I
want more spice from a spoty? He gives you more
spice and fan what way? Joe can't say that, he's
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sure as hell can and any of us that have
been through it don't like it either. What do you
want to hear from him? And because he was a
little testy, A hundred guys are beating each other up
in the clubhouses in baseball at this stage of the season.
Trust me, I've seen it in football and they go
out and play. What are you supposed to do? Yeah, man,
(25:21):
let me get my medical report. Doctor a spot here.
I'll make sure me and Dana bro slaw a role
and Chandler Roam asked the right question. God, Chandler Roan
didn't wake up this morning, madam. Ifin Joe didn't like
me anymore? Why because he knows the business. But the
sensitivity and worry about an answer to an injury. Your
dun's hurt. He's in a friggin walking boot. What's that?
Tell you?
Speaker 7 (25:42):
A couple of different answers to give you, and I
will share those because I do think that there is
a counterpoint to what you just brought up there, a
couple of them, so we'll do that.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
It's a counterpoint. If you're looking for something to bitch about,
that's the counterpoint. And sometimes when it comes to the
answers of an injury, we're always looking for something to
bitch out. You ain't getting your on in the next
five games, so deal with it. It is not wow.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
I just I think there's a ton to work with there,
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The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
I'll just go ahead and start it off with the
first part, and a lot of that is also.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
On the Astros organization.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
And I think that maybe a little bit of that
from Joe with some frustration of have to keep answering
these questions where he's got to be the middleman and
he's got to be the one that wears it. Like
I've said a numerous times, it's the most pointless exercise
possible by anybody out there to get upset with Dana
Brown for coming out and talking about injuries, or for
Joe Aspata for their explanation of it when they're the middleman.
(28:23):
They're being told at what to say there by the
medical people. Well, what bothered you about his answer? What
bothered me about it is exactly what he's done in
the past. Jordan Alvarez when he first went out with
the hand injury. Oh, it's up to jord On you know.
When he gives us a thumbs up that he's good
to go, he's going to be back in there less
than a week later.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Oh he's got a fracture on his hand. Guys.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Sorry, Like I mean, I understand that there's some information
that maybe there's been some wires crossed over there and
maybe the wrong information has been passed out at times.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
I get it. It's the human element that's fine, But
like for the franchises do this the Kyle Tucker last year,
like this is more of an organizational than it is Joe.
So I'm kind of doing what I just against this
second ago. I get that, But at the same time,
though too a very fair follow up by Chandler. I
don't think he was mad at Chandler rome he following
he wasn't. Think how frustrated you get when company comes
(29:11):
on there and can't make their point. You've been on
the show since March. He's been doing this for two years,
one hundred and sixty games a year. Somebody will call
in and take an extra minute and frustrated because they can't.
As you say land the plane, Think how frustrated you
are in just one show and you're dealing with the
guy who's had to do with fifty injuries, dealing with
a team and getting that. I think he understands the question.
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But the frustration. Your guy, Brian Kelly at LSU does
it every week. You never get frustrated. But I could
keep rolling through if you want. That's all you need,
right right, So my point is is that you're frustrated. Yes,
it's an organization, like every organization does this. I've been
a part of them. Watch it what I just and
do you do realize in the medical world that sometimes
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a sprain. Listen, if you were dumb enough last year,
anybody in this city, and I'm talking to all of you.
If you were dumb enough to buy into did a
bruce keeps the guy out on your shin for seventy
some games, then you're dumber than the belief that it
was true. Now, I've never seen a football player, as
(30:17):
I've said, have ten days off when they took well,
sometimes bone bruises. Last time. Yeah, no, bone bruce keeps
a running back out of a bone bruise on your
shin for ten days, let alone seventy games. So the
second they said it, oh he's out ten eights, Oh
it's fifteen. The second you got past that fifteen day threshold,
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that was never a bone bruise. If if that was
a bone bruise, the softest player in the history of
Major League Baseball was Kyle Tucker. If that was a
bone bruce. And we know he's not because he's been
pretty damn durable as a player. You knew right then
it was some kind of fracture. We find out fifty
to fifty five games and oh it's fracture. It's not
a bone bruce. But how did you buy into anybody? Well, listen,
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it's par for that. I can write the script for you.
What they're gonna tell you or done? Maybe out till
next year with this ankle? Who the hell? And you
know what six weeks from now may require surgery. They
told us that once his name could have had his
hamstring ripped apart. Parentis and we're gonna get surgery and
see you next spring. The guy might play in the
regular season. See how that? And that? That's why do
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you think doctors? Hey man, he blew out his knee.
It was a successful surgery. He've never heard him say
it was unsuccessful. And guess what else?
Speaker 8 (31:31):
I say?
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Unsuccessful means he's dead. Guess what else? Well, how long
is he gonna be? About? Oh, nine to seventeen, nine
to eighteen months? Thanks appreciate it. So we get a
nine month a cushion to protect the doctors from saying,
well else, see I told you it was nine to eighty.
Much just depends on his pain and how hard he rehabs.
So with this, I just I'm frustrated too with the injury.
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We're more frustrated with the injury and how to handle it.
But you get a general manager that comes on here,
Joe Spotty gets a little testy one hundred and fifty
two games in because another his star is heard again.
And a follow up question, which was perfect by Chandler
rome he should have asked, it's great and he's tough
enough to handle it. He's less bothered, I'm sure than
the rest of the people are. But Joe getting a
little tessy. I actually would walk out of the saying
(32:15):
I saw some fire in his damn belly about this.
He's frustrated as hell, just like the fans are. So
I just don't understand. We think that we're privileged enough
as fans and media to know every answer to everything.
You're never gonna get him ever, ever, especially when it
comes to injury, you're never gonna get him. First off,
they're holding out hope that you get a guy back faster.
If they came out said Jordan's done for the playoffs,
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what's the fan base say right now? What's the fan
base say? No, we're done? Wow? I mean they've been
saying that with or without you, or it's okay, So
why do you so? He says, listen, significance your answer.
Look for the keyword. There's always a keyword in it.
Look for the SIGNIFICA I told you that after one
interview we did with Dana, there was something that was said,
I can't remember about the injury. I came out to
you and I said it during a break. I said,
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I'm telling you right now that word's the key. You
won't see the guy for I might have been Paradus's hamstring.
I don't know who. We can't remember what it was.
I said, Oh, you ain't seeing him for a long time.
And it's the same thing here. I don't know when
you're gonna see him. And it will come back to
if it's just a sprain, it is going to be
on his rehab and how Jordan feels it ain't gonna
be on Joe spot. So I hate the injury reports
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because I'd rather just talk squit baseball. But they've had
so many of them. You got to asked the question,
and Chandler was spot on. But I have zero issue.
In one hundred and sixty two game schedule, you battle
with people all the time, and it wasn't even that.
If that's as mad as Joe gets, be grateful because
I got news for you could run across somebody else
that would have jumped up and walked out and wouldn't
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give you the next day the guy that was previously
in his spot. So it just we just we get
to this point where it's like the manager of the
team just lost his best player again. Chandler Rom understands that,
and it was the right question follow up to be
asked to know, well, what are we gonna do roster spot.
We're not doing anything right now, just spot because day
to day, because if the big fella comes back, we
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got to play him. That's all you need to know
about this.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
I just say, I just think that there's pretty wide
gap between pretty significant and out a while too. Then
this is a day to day thing. I just I
don't see the connection between the two between out for
a while and significant. Yeah, what's no, No, I'm talking
about between both I'm grouping out for a while and
pretty significant together along with it's a day to day thing.
I don't see the I do not see the connection
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between the two.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
The data is significant. The day to day is to
keep everybody kind of hanging on. Don't be shocked if
you wake up and says they need another body. If
you wake up by tomorrow or this weekend and they
put them on the IL do not be shocked. They
do not because maybe right when it happened, they're thinking, Okay,
how are we going to handle thist Let's wait two
days and see and put them on the aisle. When
they know that, well, we need bodies, man, We're gonna
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need another bat and that's when you'll know. So yes,
Significant tells me I L day to day tells me
they're holding out hope. In the next day or two
it happened. But why is that bother you? I think
that you could by just his answers alone. Can't you
tell what he's saying, man, day to day, we're trying
to handle the day to day, which is which is
a stock answer that managers are going to give you.
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Since a guy hasn't been put on I L. You're
hoping was there. You're always hoping for the miracle quick recovery.
So right, there you go. So, so why is it
still bothering? What do you think the answer is? The
answer is when he says significant and out for a while,
don't play the day to day thing. That's the holdout
hope I'm talking about for you. But if you're used
to the same answer all the time, why is it
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bother you when you get the same answer, would you
think you're gonna have some epiphany and they're gonna all
a sudden start talking openly about injuries and tell you
you know what, and what if he said it's what
if he said it's very significant and he played in
two days, Well why didn't you tell us it was
day to day?
Speaker 7 (35:46):
Because you're borrowing trouble at that point. You're creating more
of an issue where it's going to be asked about
day and.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Day and day and day and day again. But well,
if now when he says it's day to day, somebody
can ask him today, how's or you're on field and
you should and we will and if he opened up,
that's okay. But I just you're trying to be logic
here when it comes to injuries. That's the thing. You
ain't getting logic, dude. And you have it all year,
and you didn't last year, you did in the year before,
and you won't next year. You're not getting logic when
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it comes to this. Everybody holds out hope it's a
miracle fix, and everybody knows when you say it, don't
look at the day to day when it says significant
look more towards that air on the side of longer
with this team, because every time we wonder it's longer,
and then be surprised and blessed if it isn't. Because man,
you talk about baring trouble. If we're hanging on that
every day, dude, you might as well go and immerse
(36:34):
yourself in and check into a in service or in
help mental institution, because it's going to set you on
a couch every day going crazy over how to handle this.
What's the answer going to be? Bottom line? We got
to play nine guys out there, and if you're on
eight one of them, somebody better step their ass up.
Pretty simple. Well, the astros were able to do that
last night.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
One guy in particular able to really step up for
this team. We'll talk about him next. Brian, see you
right there, We'll get you involved. You want to join
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Speaker 7 (41:29):
There are now four games in front of them in
the Al West, and now the Cleveland Guardians are the
team that are closest to the Astros and the wild
card hunt. That's because there are a half game behind
the Mariners, who beat the Royals last night twelve five
in Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
They've won their tenth straight.
Speaker 7 (41:44):
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Let's fire it up on the phone lines this morning.
Roger gonna lead us off.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
Good morning Roger, Good morning, guys.
Speaker 11 (41:58):
I'll make you short and sweet. The people are different, man,
I don't know why people keep asking the same questions.
People are different. People have a different, different threshold of pain.
You're not the big guy. He rolled his ankle. It's
gonna take a minute, man, it's gonna take him minute.
It's not gonna be just maybe maybe a couple of
weeks ahe. It depends on the the person.
Speaker 12 (42:17):
Man.
Speaker 11 (42:18):
People act. They've never done anything in their life, they
never played sports and rolls an ankle.
Speaker 8 (42:22):
We've all done it.
Speaker 11 (42:23):
We've all done it. It's took it a while. We
never went right back on the course and Okay, we're good.
Speaker 13 (42:27):
No, Man, that.
Speaker 11 (42:28):
Stuff takes a while. Man depends on the person.
Speaker 8 (42:30):
Man.
Speaker 11 (42:30):
So I don't know why people just can't just you know,
think about it like that and just you know, people
are different.
Speaker 8 (42:36):
Man.
Speaker 11 (42:36):
Hey, this season's gonna go the way it goes. They're
doing everything they can man uh to split split taping, bubblegum. Man,
They're doing what they can. I love AJ Blueball, that guy.
That guy's a real deal. I hope they can stretch
him out later on. Is he a starting pitcher or
he's just a better relief guy, or is he gonna closer?
Speaker 8 (42:54):
I don't know what.
Speaker 11 (42:54):
But he's got some good stuff.
Speaker 8 (42:56):
Man.
Speaker 11 (42:56):
I like, I like what I see for that guy.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 11 (42:59):
But yeah, sure, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 7 (43:04):
See you man. Good landing there, Roger, you stuck it.
Good job. AJ blue Ball. I mean that's somebody that
I did want to talk about, and I mean we
talked about a little bit early on in the show.
Three innings out of him last night. He's able to
pass it off to Colton Gordon, who's able to give
you one run ball over the next three innings and
then the Astros only trouble they ran into was in
(43:26):
the eighth inning and Innial de la Santos, who's been
really good for this team, when he couldn't get that
final out of the inning, and then you had to
bring on Brian to bray you for an extended save,
which he picks up his seventh of the season. But
I mean, blue Ball is a guy that when I
heard because at the time, Sean you knows doing stuff
around the house. So I had Robert and Steve On
on the speaker while I was doing that, and I
(43:49):
hear Colton Gordon warming up in the bullpen, and I'm like, why, seriously, why,
Because I mean, you want blue Ball to be a
starter for you eventually, and as a matter of fact,
I think he is the starter moving forward. He is
going to be in the rotation next year like that.
That is as sure as you're born. That is going
to happen. Fifty pitches out of him last night, thirty
three of them for strikes. So you want to talk
(44:10):
about efficiency. But I threw this out on Twitter last
night too, and I fully believe it. He's got some
Hunter Brown in them.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
I mean a little piss and vinegar. Yeah, I'm okay
with that. Yeah, I'm one hundred percent okay. Well, you
want to go down a list of ten guys of
your current or former ones that have it. We can
start naming him from nineteen seventy to twenty twenty five,
and they all have one thing in common. They would
(44:37):
just assume fight you as strike you out when they're
on the mound. We know who those guys are. We'll
walk through it. You think, let me just use a name.
You think Royal's Walt wanted to fight you a little bit,
You think he had a little bit of that in him.
I'm just I'm just grabbing names, you know, Nolan Ryan here,
I mean, we can go on and Rod Lemons, the Lemons,
(44:58):
Pedro Pettit, Andy Pettitt. What about? And you don't have
to just throw one hundred to have a little of that.
You could throw ninety three and still be that guy
a little bit. Oh, there is no. He just did
it a different way. He carved you up more ways.
He did a list sixty mile an hour, one ninety seven,
ninety five and then smirk at you and give you
something around the back and under the legs. And and
(45:19):
and then hit a home run on you when you
were able to hit. So yeah, I'm okay with that.
And you know what, the sooner you can establish that
and make sure that your own players know and other
players know that when that guy steps in the on
the mound, go ahead and try to dig in. I'm
all for it. I'm here for it. I think he's
not only got a great future, but I think he
is a starter and will be in the rotation because
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you're going to lose your frontline starter at the top
next year, so you're going to need meaning Fromber he's
going to be gone, so you got to not name
a second there. I was like, can Shaan see the future?
Hunter Brown's gonna get a hurt the guy you ran
out there first this year, which was Fromber, So I
get you. It's but Blueball will be a great addition,
and right now he may be big a key with
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his versatility moving forward this year, you're gonna need him
where he is. You may need him in the starting rotation.
He may he's gonna have to give you what he
did last night, possibly a lot of pitchers and efficient
ones of that, and give yourself put you in a
position to win the game. And again they've been pining
for him and you're getting him. The guy's really good
and Steve Sparks has raved about him from day one.
Speaker 7 (46:23):
Getting to the postseason is the biggest charge right now.
And you're a half game back of the Mariners. As
I mentioned, you're in position to be able to make
the postseason. A guy like him is incredibly valuable in
the postseason. Where you run into trouble in the second
or third inning, you can't wait around, you can't fall
behind for nothing in that spot, you're down by two,
well you better keep it right there. And he's a
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guy that can do that.
Speaker 8 (46:44):
Well.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
He can also throw you five innings if you need him. Hey,
he can And I mean, oh second, any man's getting sideways.
We don't have time to waste or down forward to nothing.
Guy can't throw a strike. Bam. Guy comes in and
you're now you're now it's the sixth year and you're
six and two thirds into the thing, and he's kept
the score the same as it was when he came in.
That kind of guy, not giving free passes, striking people out.
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You want to talk about grind and doing what he's doing.
So he's a and you want to talk about some
of the guys have been invaluable this year, from him
and King and Jason Alexander, whether you're a starter, bullpen guy,
there's a ton of them that they're versatility and they
will never get the credit nationally that they deserve. But
in truth, if there was a string or a thread
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they were hanging on with all these injuries, the pitching
staff is make sure they put an extra that they've
they've added an extra twine to that rope because they
have kept you in it. Without them, they'd be ten
games out of first place. They absolutely have been last nights.
I mean, that was the funny thing about it, where
you're just like, all.
Speaker 7 (47:45):
Right, so we to the phase of the season where
you start hitting, but then the pitching starts to falter
a little bit. I mean it started creeping into my
mind a little bit in that eighth inning where I mean,
Della Santos has been so good for you and you're like, oh,
that's why he's here. Okay, Now I get it because
I asked my buddy, who does the pre and post
for the Braves, I go, hell, what are they getting?
He goes, somebody it's not very good. I was like, oh, okay, okay,
(48:10):
but you've been really good for the Astros.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
Yes, last night notwithstanding, and those can happen. They happened.
It's a regular occurrence around the league. Good pictures to
have nights. You just don't want three in a row. No,
you don't want to do that. You know, at this
time of year, you want that to be the aberration,
not the norm.
Speaker 8 (48:28):
So but.
Speaker 5 (48:30):
Take the win anyway you can get it. And they
were able to stave them off. But which allows you
to do that is by posting six runs early and
then getting pretty solid pitching until the end. You test
yourself too. I mean, we got six to two, then
it's six, three and sixth, and then you're thinking, okay,
what's going to happen here? And in the ninth inning
you you put them out of their misery and you've
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taken two and you're about a game away from eliminating
them from the playoff picture. Because it's going to be
maybe too tough to overcome.
Speaker 7 (48:59):
I was gonna say, if you win the night and
they're five games back of you, no matter what, with
nine games to go, that's you have to completely fall
flat on your face for them to be able to get.
Speaker 5 (49:10):
In well, if they are, if they if we're able
to that, not only they fall flat on their face.
The whole offseason will be spent on what happened down
the stretch to the Astros. If that were to happen,
it's not gonna happen. They take care of the the
Rangers tonight, the Rangers will be home watching football the
rest of the year before it's over, and they just
it's just it'd be too much to overcome because the
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Astros aren't gonna lose seven in a row or eight
in a row. That's just not gonna happen. Even if
they go five hundred, the Rangers would have to win
them all. And so they're putting themselves in a buying
This is a huge game for them to now after this,
now you focus on moving up the ladder and getting
the division and trying to move yourself into the two seed.
But all you got you win, and let's see what happens.
Speaker 7 (49:51):
Like I said, when takes care of itself. John wants
to wain and good morning, John, Good morning.
Speaker 12 (49:58):
I had a question for you.
Speaker 11 (50:00):
I'll answer, then I'll hang up and listen to what
I say, and.
Speaker 14 (50:04):
But my question was, you know, like whenever there's an
outfielder and like the ball is hit over their head,
sometimes they look at the ball I act like they're
gonna catch it just to duke the runner. And me,
I think the third base coach on that Jordan, I
think it was he did. I think it was a
go all the way. I don't think he was really
trying to stop him because I think he was running
(50:26):
down third base. The coach a gownded line with his
hands up just to duke the outfielder. Because if he
really wanted to stop Jordan, I think he would have
stayed on third base with his hands up. But him
running down line, I think he will sign duke the outfolder.
That I mean, I don't mind him sending him. But
I'm just saying he was saying he was telling him
to stop. I think he had Yordan going the old time.
That's all I gotta say. I don't want to hear what
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your opinion is.
Speaker 7 (50:48):
Thank you, all right, So that's not when that happened.
The ball that Jordon scored on was a tapper back
to the picture and then the pitcher threw it away
and Tony Paris, Chica, did try to stop him. He's
down the third base line, both hands up in the air,
almost like a touchdown signal, like hey, big fella, don't
continue to run. Lock on at third base right there.
(51:10):
As far as the deaking goes, I mean, that's a
trick as old as as time in baseball, both you know,
infielders will do it all the time. You'll have guys
that you know throw down the second base on a
stolen base. We'll look out to the outfield being like, hey,
where's the ball, where's the ball, just to see if
the guy's going to try to step off second base,
you tag him, he's out.
Speaker 5 (51:28):
Ronald Acuna Junior did it the other day. I think
he did it in the Sunday game to the to
the Astros where they've got that brick wall out there
and right field at Truest Park, and he did kind
of like he was shoring up like he was going
to catch the ball, then quickly turned around to get
the ricochet off the ball off the wall to then
throw it back in which we found out Friday night.
You don't run on that guy. Gamesmanship, it's okay or
(51:51):
none wrong with that. Who was he was he bummed
by it? Is that what he was?
Speaker 1 (51:54):
No?
Speaker 7 (51:54):
It just I mean about he said that he didn't
think that Paris Cheka was really trying to hold him up.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Yes he was, Oh yeah he was.
Speaker 7 (52:02):
He was halfway down the third base line, as third
base coaches will do again, both hands in the air
like stop.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
And he still made it go and he still made
it standing up right. Yeah. Then it makes you want
to well, if he his slid just for the hell
of it, would he be would there be in and
maybe it hurts his knee? I don't know. I hope no,
Maybe there's nothing right right, Yeah, it just it's crazy
how those things work. But yeah, when they're when the
third base coaches they're going to half to three quarters
down the line and get in your vision and you
see the arms going in the air, it's you listen,
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it's unfortunate circumstances with that, which has been the case
for these guys all year long. With you know, it's
almost like you say, okay, twenty twenty five baseball season
has been how do we overcome another injury? Not how
do we overcome the other team? How do we overcome
another injury? And then you get both because you're trying
to fight and scratch to win a division and get
into the playoffs and be playing your best baseball in
the playoffs. Listen, piece meals the name of the game.
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Here with them right now, and you've got to hope
you can carve them out and that your resilience pays
off in the postseason. Here's hoping that's for sure.
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As the Astros win last night over the Rangers six
to five, there's still a half game back of the Mariners,
because well damnit, Seattle just won't lose. They win last
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night twelve to five over the Royals in Kansas City
and Jordan Alvarez out with a pretty significant ankle injury.
Not on the il just EyeT by the way too
today on Western Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (55:40):
It's good timing too. I didn't know that it's International
Country Music Day. So isn't there a day for everything?
There is? There is? Maybe there's I wonder, why why
don't we do that? Why don't we have to have
something to say? Every day? Well, I mean, you know
the rules.
Speaker 7 (55:55):
I mean, everybody's a hero and everybody has to be
recognized in some sort of way. So I mean, soon enough,
there's gonna be a national Seawan day. Soon enough, there
will be in a national emmanual day like recognized day,
I recognize these nuts on your forehead day. God Is
asked tripley, he did.
Speaker 5 (56:16):
You really did? What kind of platter do you? You?
Speaker 8 (56:18):
Even?
Speaker 7 (56:18):
You even repeated yourself. I'm not falling for that one,
but you even repeated yourself.
Speaker 5 (56:23):
I did. Yeah, I simply said it. Said it again. Yeah,
you did?
Speaker 1 (56:27):
You?
Speaker 5 (56:27):
I said it. You said it. I said, fine, take that,
take the w You're fine, and Triple give you the
right hand er. I mean I can go home and
go to see it. Yeah, send you to the sheets.
All right, all right, hey, I need just give me
some blue ball before you go. All right, that can
sound right, Yeah that if you're just listening. You don't
know who blue ball is. Say if somebody Sean wants
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some blue balls. Somebody just tuned in and you know
they're just turning on the woodway or somewhere and they're
just kind of like, man, did I pick the right
show today? Yeah? I don't know. Well, tell them to
get lines. A few people got those. No, he's he's
got some not gonna tell you what. He's got some stones.
I promise does he have that?
Speaker 7 (57:06):
And he he definitely lets him drop out there. All right,
So Nicky Smokes is one of the guys over at barstool.
He had an interesting question, Nicky smokes.
Speaker 5 (57:17):
Nicky smokes.
Speaker 7 (57:18):
Yeah, so he's he's one of the crew over there
at barstool, and he had an interesting question. Did they
have tailgates at the Roman Colosseum?
Speaker 5 (57:27):
Yeah, it is beheaded people. Well, I mean it was hitting.
It was also up to the emperor at that point. Yeah,
I would imagine you may like go out, like start
queueing the barbecue and stuff up.
Speaker 7 (57:36):
Hey, Lucius is going to have a party right there
at his chariots.
Speaker 5 (57:40):
Yeah, you know who's who's bringing the line Zachariah, Who's
who's bringing the I don't know. Some sort of fish
they were having. You don't think they had broughts? Probably not.
I mean, I mean I don't know. I like, maybe
can you imagine And I said, hey, we've got a
beer and brought feed here. The emperor wanted brots, little spy,
he wants the cheddar brought too, a little cheese somebody
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somebody somebody slaughtered the hog.
Speaker 7 (58:03):
So now now we're gonna be I mean, you know
they're all just hanging out, you know, drinking out of
goblets of wine and uh, you know, maybe maybe having
a they.
Speaker 5 (58:11):
Chill the goblet. Probably not, I mean it'd be hard
to be hard to chill at that point. Yeah, that's
a good question, I am. Did they tailgate at the
Roman College? Roman Coliseum a good place to tailgate though,
I think so, a lot of history there. Yeah, I mean,
next next time I'm in Rome, maybe maybe I try that.
I haven't. You know, sometimes you'll see like the old
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school pictures, like you know, did a school book or something.
I'm wondering how come I never saw anybody like sitting
standing at the grill grilling up. Then Brots and some burgers.
Man got they've got the hog on the spit. They
you don't want a hog on spit, Okay, you don't
want hawk toa there, you don't want to hog. You
can't say that. You can't say a hog on spit
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you got. You can't say that you got something you
got somebody turning the spit there you go, what it is?
See if we explain, say I know what the people
in this town know what that is.
Speaker 7 (59:02):
Yeah, it's just it's a kind of like a little like,
I don't know, turn like a rotisseriya.
Speaker 5 (59:06):
There there you go bingo, yeah, saying go bongo.
Speaker 8 (59:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (59:10):
You usually are the one that that can fill in
the blanks on that. Yeah, it's a rotisseriy. So I
mean it's just turning around the open flame.
Speaker 5 (59:17):
There you go, then go through. Yeah. So I mean
you know soon enough. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 7 (59:20):
I don't think that pulled pork was around back then,
but I mean I guess you could go that route maybe.
Speaker 5 (59:26):
Hogs back then, right, Yeah, so you probably could have
a little shore. Somebody should have realized that I had
to pull some pork. Good stuff.
Speaker 7 (59:32):
Man, You get you get a you get a wild hog,
and and you slaughter it right and get the shoulder.
Speaker 5 (59:37):
I think there was tailgating, but I think it was
a little different than the way we do it now.
Let's just but there had to be. It's a cellar.
You know, they're celebrating. It's an event. Everybody's been taught
from the beginning of time that celebrate something goods happened,
good happens. What what's the celebration now? I don't see
a whole lot of wine at tailgates. Maybe it old
miss when up there in the grove and it's like
they got their crystal mimsies. Yeah, yeah, you're a mimsy guy,
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aren't you. Momo, This is what I call him.
Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
You know, I figure if I say it that way,
it's it's less you know, it's it's more manly.
Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
Just not as feminine. It's masculine. And I haven't momo.
Speaker 7 (01:00:13):
Yeah, I haven't had one in a while, just because
I mean, you know, starts to kind of bubble up
and do all of that. I mean, I just I
used to usually stick with one or the other, the
hard stuff for or maybe even a golden soda or too.
Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
So if I said bloody Mary or mimsy, which what's
your style.
Speaker 7 (01:00:29):
Depends on how the night before went, I would probably
go bloody. But I feel like I can only go
one one bloody yeah and feel that. Yeah, I mean,
because then then you start to get that, and then
you know, you start to kind of get red lobster,
you knowing there a little bit.
Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
What about that? What about that mimsy headache?
Speaker 8 (01:00:46):
Though?
Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
That champagne head That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (01:00:48):
That's what I'm saying, because I mean, for the most
part if you're if you're getting uh, as you said,
a mimsy somewhere.
Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
Lose your man card if you call it a mimsy.
I don't think so, you don't know. I thought if
part of me thinks a man?
Speaker 8 (01:00:59):
What?
Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
And yet I kind of didn't vent it. We got
out of your car, thing to like where people are
the unwritten man, You're you're drinking mimosa. I don't. I
don't know if I can be buddies with you. Okay, yeah,
all right, good. I haven't had a mimsy in a
long time. It's been a minute for me too. I
mean I'm more overly spicy, bloody marriage. I was gonna say.
Speaker 7 (01:01:19):
I mean, if it's going to be an all day
college football something like that.
Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
You're going memsy. I mean you're going bloody. Pop the top, yeah,
pop to top. How about a red beer. That's a
good hangover. Oh no, it's it's tremendous.
Speaker 7 (01:01:32):
It's tremendous. Little kalamadoe, you know, throw throw some top
of teo in there. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
I want to go back to your hogspit comment. Please,
I'm curious to see where you go. Oh you could.
The Romans did tailgate probably party better than you do.
I mean, party us.
Speaker 7 (01:01:54):
If I'm not mistaken to like tailgating at life or
death events this kind of thing. Because if I'm not mistaken,
I think the very first battle of the Civil War
I learned this somewhere was people showed up because they're like, well,
we haven't seen war in a while. It sounds fun
a battle this, this is gonna be great. It wasn't
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a Civil War reenactment. It was the actual thing. And
then people realize pretty quickly, oh yeah, this is war
with like muskets and cannons.
Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
We're celebrating like, you know, oh my god, that guy
just got a bayonet tailgate tailgate and us Meyer throwing
a touchdown passes Florida their tailgate. The guy getting his
head lopped off, and we gotta eat the head or
just celebrate it, right, Yeah, I don't know, man, the French.
Speaker 7 (01:02:36):
Revolution off with their head, but first one with his head,
but first the wine.
Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
Good word the lop you know what I'm saying. Yeah, well,
anybody says, man, I'm gonna I'm thinking when somebody brings
the man he lopped his head off, that's like old
school biblical you know what I mean, you can't lop
a head off now, I mean you can. Man, that's
a little archaic. Now, you know you don't. You don't
want to go that route.
Speaker 7 (01:02:55):
So if if you do tailgate anytime soon, perhaps we
can think the Romans.
Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
I think maybe we should have a Roman themed tailgate.
I'll be down with that. You know what I'm saying.
You're going there and you're like, it's on today, like
December football, You're rare November football, it's on. Let's roaming.
This is this is full fledged get after? Does everybody
else know that? I mean, I think I'd feel pretty
stupid if I showed up at a toga. Yeah, it's like, hey,
why are you dressing a toga? I got bad information.
(01:03:21):
We might want to make sure that twenty of your
best friends are on the same tage. Yeah, hey, nobody
allowed to bring some machette and lop heads off? No, no, no,
let's let's not do that. So we call it machete.
Would they call a sword? What is the difference a
machete and a sword? Like more pointed at the end,
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no longer? Maybe a sword feels longer than a machete.
Speaker 7 (01:03:44):
Yeah, I mean, I think the width of the machete
is a little bit more like it's kind of like
the feel of a because you're going for double barrel
sawed off and to be able to you know, lop
through kad zoo and do all that.
Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
Like I tell you know, lop good word man, it was.
It was good pulled by good job. All right.
Speaker 7 (01:04:02):
Speaking of tailgating, we want people tailgate to see this
guy and his team work, and he thinks they're close
to being complete.
Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
We'll see if we agree. We'll discuss that here.
Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
It is a Shawn Salisbury show on a Western Wednesday
Sports Talk at seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
But first I got taking a tailgates.
Speaker 7 (01:04:18):
Oh yeah, I mean where we've talked about it numerous
times of tailgating in venue, the full service bar, the
beer garden, whatever it might be. Lunch is coming up,
so you're looking for a great place to go Jay
bar m Barbecue.
Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
You can't tailgate inside of the real tailgate if it's
just an inside, if it's just the inside of a building.
Now when you have the venue that's got inside and outside,
now that kind of resembles a good game day tailgate.
But you don't need a game day excuse to go
to Jbarrow barbicue, great menu, great people, phenomenal food obviously,
and parking. I mean I could roll through the list.
(01:04:57):
The thing is, when all is sudden done, you want
to say, when I went in there, did it meet
my expectations? When I left, price, food, the helpings, everything
that goes with it, did from start to finish and
meet my expectations. If it didn't, then you either got
to go back and say, well, Jaybariam, you don't have
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to worry about that. Every time you go in there,
it'll meet your expectations and more than likely I know
it for me and I'm sure for you Dan, it
exceeded them. It always does. The food's phenomenal in the
service is great. There is no better place in Houston.
And so your only excuse is you're hungry, you want
to go get good food. You don't need any other excuse.
Speaker 7 (01:05:32):
I was told before I went there the very first
time that it was the best brisket that you would
ever have, and it did not disappoint. The haulopeno Cheddar sausage,
it met the same expectations. And we've been telling you
about the daily specials like yesterday told you about the
Mexican hot dog that they were working with. What if
today I told you speaking of that great brisket, what
if I told you it's ground down and made into
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a prime brisket burger on a potato roll with American cheese,
jaybar m mop sauce, top of some crispy onion and
served with some fries for sixteen dollars.
Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
Let's go a little cold drink with it, and you're
good to go. Let's go great indoor outdoor steating and
it's even give yourself a change, even if you can't
make it during the week, which you should pop on
in there like on a Saturday or Sunday, and you're
gonna freaking fall in love with the food and the
venue itself. Yeah, I'm been there. It's twenty two one
Leland Jbarn Barbecue dot com. For that menu and everything
else that's going on.
Speaker 7 (01:06:23):
You'll show up, You'll never want to leave. He just
told you about it, Ja Barbi two.
Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
What they can I think they can addle like three
to three hundred fifty people or they did it up
here there you go.
Speaker 7 (01:06:30):
Hoffee showed up with all the goodness and we enjoyed
some good briskets, some ribs, some sides going with it too.
Jbarm Barbecue twenty two one one Leland Street. As Sean mentioned,
you'll show up, you'll never want to leave. It's Jbarn
Barbecue for the Sean Salisbury Show, continued attitude. She knows
she's a smoke show. Hey your beer, damn your beer
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got hot. Yeah, as Hardy told you in the beginning, Yeah, yeah, no,
it's oh the perils of dating. The Astros hold on
to beat the Rangers last night six five at dyk
In Park.
Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
They're gonna go for the sweep.
Speaker 7 (01:07:05):
Tonight, Mariners beat the Royals twelve five in Kansas City.
Speaker 15 (01:07:09):
They won.
Speaker 7 (01:07:09):
They've now won ten straight. And the Texans we're gonna
talk about right now. Back to work today. Get ready
for the Jags on Sunday in Jacksonville. There are zero
and two. And we talked at at length yesterday about
this offense, primarily the offensive line and then kind of
building it down from there. But what if I were
to tell you that at oh and two and with
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the team Sean that is lost by a combined well
was it six points? Because they lost by five to
the Rams and they lost by one to the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
That they're not far from being a complete team. Just
ask Tamiko Ryans for what we're doing offensive league defensive. Man,
we we're not far away. So I don't want that.
Speaker 16 (01:07:51):
I'm not in the mode to where hey it's it's
doom and gloom like we're We're not far away.
Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
We're close.
Speaker 16 (01:07:57):
I think we made a lot of strides in this
game on yesterday. We did a lot of positive things
and we did well. Of course, they're always things issues
and things that you can't correct, but it is not
far off.
Speaker 7 (01:08:12):
Not far off, says Demiko Ryans. I mean, unless I'm
missing something here, Sean, this is a team who through
two games can't run the football. This is a team
who through two games can't they cannot be able to
protect their quarterback. They're a team that at times, although
they did get better in the second game about getting
the opposing offense off the field on third down, not
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at the beginning of the game. It was a carryover
from what you had out there in La where you
gave up seven to thirteen in that regard. But saying
that they're not far off, I appreciate to Miko's optimism.
I don't share it.
Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
If I was reading between the lines that say I'm
gonna protect my offense, my defense isn't far off. And
I believe that that's one of those where it's you know,
you don't want to say my defense isn't far off
and put the whole burden. Because defensively, let's name a
few things they got pushed around in the run game
which they should be able to fix. This past week.
They gave up some plays that they should have stopped,
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a sack in the pocket that Baker Mayfield extends it
and gives you a chance to go win. And they
didn't get a stop on the last series to allow
you to run right down your throat to win a game.
So defense, that's an aberration. You're not going to see
that much for them. I think that's a when I
say a quick fix. They've got to be more discipline,
stop penalties. But they're close. Man, when the season's over,
we're not going to look back and say the defense sucked.
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I promise you that they are good enough to disrupt.
And they are. But that's the speaking of one and
special teams. The two thirds of it is the protection
of the third because there's no way you can watch
this offense and say they're efficient. They're kicking ass. They're explosive,
They're kicking ass. In the run game, the offensive lines dominate.
My quarterback's playing at a high level. They're not. They're not,
(01:09:51):
And I'm wondering why the young guys aren't getting a
lot of run wide receiver. These two iowas honestly, at
some point they look like there's some playmaking skills. Now.
The one thing we don't and Demiko watches the tape
that we didn't watch when they break up the cutups,
so they did do a lot of good things in
it that they did. So the question I ask is
if they were the close to where they want to
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be and they're not offensively, they just can't. If they are,
then I'm not watching the same game. But I defer
to somebody an expert like Demiko. His defense and special
teams are playing well. They had some lapses that cost
them in this game and penalties, but offensively didn't do enough.
So I asked the question. I got on with our
guy Matt Muscona and get into everything I do every
Tuesday talking about the Saints, who are the Saints. The
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Saints now on a roster that's limited. The reason why
I'm making the comparison not that they're neighboring states, but
similarity the similarities. The Saints have had a chance to
win it in the fourth quarter both games. That's the
forty nine ers and who they just lose toss Arizona
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Arizona Diamondback, I mean Arizona Cardinals. They've had a chance
to close them out both and they have penalty third
and long drop, just some stuff where they just haven't
closed it out. Rattler's played pretty well. And say you say, well,
are the Saints a good team, that they're close right,
that they're hanging around they're good, or they've just proven
us they can't close. It's the latter because they're not
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a great roster and they're not explosive. They just they
don't know how to win. The Texans do know how
to win with the visions. But the question you ask
yourself this year is, oh, they've been inside the red
zone twice with chances to win, Which leads me to
one other question here, what was the score when they
went forward on fourth down inside the three yard line?
They were down fourteen to ten. At the time it
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was rhetorical, but that's I just want to reiterate now.
So why not kick the question in the next levels.
I love going forward, I love aggressive But the question
I got asked this question by a friend who's been
on the Dallas Cowboys staff, Sean, why did why didn't
they kick a field goaling? Because there was time and
get it to one point where a field goal wins
it for you. Valid But here's the point. My answer
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to that is we always when they're not aggressive, or
when somebody's not aggressive and they kick a field goal,
why not go for it? And if they are aggressive
and they don't get it, why not kick the field goal?
So we're all, you can't be right if you make it.
It's like, yeah, great, butt, there's always a butt. The
thing about that that bothers me not even that they
didn't kick it. The thing that bothers me is their
approach to the offensive philosophy telling me what I need
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to know. As I mentioned yesterday, So now I'm with Themko,
two thirds of it's playing good football. The defense is
going to have to play better to overcome some of
the offensive woes. They can't let Baker Mayfield do what
he does and them, you know, physically wear you out
in the run game. But that's far quicker fix. You're
dealing with a rookie play caller, a quarterback right now
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that is not played his best football since his rookie year,
an offensive line that's still reeling, a run game that's
went from deep to a tight end position that went
from pretty deep to two of them done. So they're
reeling on offense. And no, their offense right now isn't close. Now,
one game can fix that. Jackson will be a good
team to get it fixed. But this is a two
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thirds thing. This is a coach saying, giving you coach speak.
It's the overall thing. They did do some good things,
not enough of them to win. So who are they
a team that can get inside the red zone in
the fourth quarter and get close or a team that
can get inside the red zone and close. Right now,
after two games, you'd say, if the defense doesn't keep
getting stops, they're not gonna win. You can't keep winning
score nineteen and twenty and nine points. You got to
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get in the en zone more than that, or the
burden falls on your defense, and that's too much of
a burden with all these quarterbacks in this.
Speaker 7 (01:13:32):
League, well two chances they've been close and not been
able to close, and that's why they find themselves at
zero and two. Will al see you right there. We'll
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Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
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The Jong Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 7 (01:16:00):
Yeah, we've kind of got I would say that country
music has gotten back to what a lot of people
like and not you know, kind of the bubblegum pop
stuff we had with like Thomas Rhett and some of those.
Speaker 5 (01:16:10):
Guys out there. I still like Thomas Redt. I do too,
but I'm just saying that it's a little bit more poppy,
right Oh, I agree. But if you got a fire,
don't lose it.
Speaker 17 (01:16:18):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (01:16:18):
Now, if you've got to do or die, just do it. Yeah,
just use it. Yeah, you got to. I mean, if
if you got a fire, just don't lose it. Bailey Zimmerman,
if I'm not mistaken, wasn't he a quarterback? Was he?
Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Was?
Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
He one of the numerous ones like Sam Hunt and
a few others that I wonder if he could throw
a bang post.
Speaker 7 (01:16:35):
And then god, what's uh, what's what's There's one that
played uh at North Carolina another one because Hunt played
at UAB. I think Zimmerman played at George Southern?
Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
Nice? Nice?
Speaker 7 (01:16:49):
Who what what country music guy played quarterback at You
and C. Somebody out there is going to know it
because I know that, uh, the the one guy that
played quarterback at U and C that used to be with.
Speaker 5 (01:16:59):
No. I mean he's still going. I'm kiskidding. I mean
that does sound like a good country name. Yeah, so hey,
ladies and gentlemen, same al Yeah, Sam Hell's opening for
Thomas Rhett. Yeah, it's like, you know, some of the
teammates and some ladies show up.
Speaker 8 (01:17:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:17:11):
And then there was always the one guy who you know, Hey, hey,
I got the guitar.
Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
I'm sure you do. Get him on the highway driving
in with Y two Country and Cody Island or what's
the other what's the other dhouse? No, what's the other DJ?
On Y two Country? The main one? He always hosts
the gosh dang, I listen to him every day. It'll
come to me, not a big deal. Not a big deal.
(01:17:37):
Loves golf too. The other reason why I like him,
he's all, what are you doing your free just golf?
That's how he does golfing golf all the time. Yeah,
my kind of guy. Where where am I? I mean,
that's it's good for the marriage too, you know, like
where you know? Oh, well, at least I know he's
not out cheating. It's like, yeah, he's just playing golf.
It's all he's doing. Yeah, right there, there's no doubt.
And I got news for your Bad golf will drive
(01:17:58):
you more crazy than anybody will. Yeah, it carries over
a good golf will obsess you more than well. I mean,
what's what's annoying about bad golf is? You know, obviously
it's bad golf, But then you'll hit a good shot
at the end, So then that's what that's that's the
the serotonin boost you need to be able to come back.
Who what breaks you up more? A birdie or an
(01:18:19):
eagle or your your favorite zoid. I'd probably say a
birdie or yeah, yeah, because I mean I can control
you know, you know you have, but two forty five five, Yeah,
you hit a nice little cut shot in there because
I think your ballflight's a little left to right correct,
(01:18:40):
and you roll it in there, and you're sitting with
a four footer for eagle and the outright lead. Yeah yeah, dude, Yeah,
So you're taking an eagle on the golf course ahead
of the bird. The birdies and eagles and the zoids
will follow. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. What is it the
chicken or the egg? Is it the eagle gets the
zoid or the zoid? You got the zoid and she
just golf.
Speaker 7 (01:19:00):
Clapping for the one is if if you follow Mickey
from you know, Rockies logic, women weaken knees. So, I
mean sometimes it can go against you, but or I
mean it can help you play better.
Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
So the euphoria of an eagle in the outright lead
might give you more euphoria than your favorite zoid. Yeah
all right. I respect that you're not gonna get anything.
I said, you handle the business. Everything else takes care
of itself. You know, Like a twenty five footer with
a right to a little right to left swinger, I mean,
you knock it to the bottom of the cup. Yeah,
hard hard to pass that up, right, guys.
Speaker 15 (01:19:32):
A quick sidebar, Paul he called in. He's a dan.
To your question, he said his name was.
Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
Damn you forgot what's his first must have been a
good name. What's his first name? That's where he was
going to. Oh yeah, he told me his name. It was, uh,
some country singer.
Speaker 15 (01:19:52):
I was trying to get it. Yeah, I was trying
to fire.
Speaker 5 (01:19:54):
Up the Google machine. Well, well we'll figure it out,
but you want some perspective on age real quick while
we're talking about fun. Thanks.
Speaker 15 (01:20:01):
Yeah, his last name was Rice something. I can't remember
his chase Rice. He was in a quarterback. He was
a linebacker.
Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
Okay, well, I mean I was somewhat the neighborhood he was.
He was in uniform. Yeah, okay, see he wore the
tar heel blue. Robin you out for those of us
who watched that Hall of Favor play, Yeah, he's seventy.
Damn it. I want you to think about I'm think
of Robin you out, Cecil Cooper. What's going to be
the next thing of all of this is like seventy.
Speaker 7 (01:20:31):
It's not bad enough that like Bigio's kid plays and
Bashette and like some of the other it's going to
be when grandkids start playing.
Speaker 5 (01:20:39):
Oh yeah, it's Jeff Bagwell's grandson. Cool. Yeah, the great right,
the great Robin seventy.
Speaker 7 (01:20:46):
It's approaching that man. That's what happens. Only if you're
lucky enough to keep going up in that number. Will
Al Randall, We'll get you involved. You want to join
him as we get into the eight o'clock the hour,
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Speaker 7 (01:21:52):
They beat the Royals last night twelve five in Kansas City,
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Get ready for the Jags in Jacksonville. They're owing two
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Cyprus will good morning.
Speaker 12 (01:22:15):
Hey, good morning you guys. Thanks for having me. Sure,
I just want to speak on the Texans. I was
at the Texans game, and uh, you know, I'm sure
waking up early early morning Tuesday, I'm sure a lot
of fans were playing the blame game, you know, trying
to blame Shroud if it comes down to accountability. I
(01:22:36):
don't think he's entirely the reason to blame. I would
blame the O C and the O line. You got
to give the guy a little pass protection.
Speaker 5 (01:22:44):
Who's Who's Who's blaming Stroud?
Speaker 8 (01:22:46):
Who?
Speaker 5 (01:22:46):
Who out there? You mean on social media? People blaming
Stroud that there's a he's the reason.
Speaker 12 (01:22:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm hearing it from a lot
of guys here at work and so on and so
forth social media. You know Stroud, I think he's a
type of QB to run the design play, you know,
he's not the type of guy to go outside the
pocket create plays. They had two missed opportunities. They were
(01:23:11):
fourth and one at the goal line, and you either
punch it in in that situation or play it safe
and kick a field goal. They also the other missed
opportunity they had was the two point conversion. Almost immediately
after he hiked the ball, he got sacked. So that's
my input on the game. They definitely had a chance
(01:23:33):
to win it, and they failed miserably.
Speaker 7 (01:23:37):
Appreciate the call well, I mean, he did have some plays,
and I talked about it yesterday. There's four or five
that I can remember off the top of my head
that his rookie year. He made those plays. And now
the feed are all over the place. The accuracy is
off and it's an incompletion or I mean the case
of you know, last week against LA it was an interception.
(01:23:58):
So there is that. But I also it's a trained response.
As I've mentioned numerous times, I understand he's sticking up
for the guys that are in front of him. That's
what you have to do as a quarterback. But Sean,
those guys are the reason that he is this way
right now on the field.
Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
Yeah, but he also if we're going to hold him
to the standard that we hold starting quarterbacks that are
difference makers to which I do hold him to that standard,
he's got to have to overcome some of that and
he and the coordinator are gonna have to find a
way to dial up plays that quite frankly protect the
offensive line too. What I mean by that is whether
it's an extra body and staying in constantly and you're
max protecting, or getting plays that get the ball out
(01:24:35):
quicker or that allow you to change the launch point
of the puck, which they need to do a better
job of. They need to change his launch point instead
of three and five sitting in the pocket and the
only time you're moving him is is on a naked
boot or a sprint once in a while, you've got
to change the launch point and set him up in
different areas so they just can't tee off because you're
it's too easy to get to him and you know
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he's on a spot and your pressure and you know
how to get him. You got to change a launch point.
That's one.
Speaker 11 (01:25:01):
Two.
Speaker 5 (01:25:01):
Is anybody who thinks it's just c J. Stroud doesn't watch.
Of course, there's still collateral damage from the past, but
as a great player who's in line for a huge
pay raise at some point if he continues to play
what I'm talking about when the time comes that he
has got to he's got to make better decisions and
make better throws when it's a clean pocket when he
does have the protection that's necessary. So he isn't the problem,
(01:25:23):
but he's been part of it the first two games
he has not been. Hell I can right now, he said, Okay,
who's a better player, Daniel Jones or c J. Stroud.
Of course he wants Stratt. Jones is playing better whatever.
He's bought into what they're doing, and they're it's clicking.
Anybody who thinks that the future is not c J. Stroud,
(01:25:45):
We're way your way, putting the car before the horse,
slow down. The guy's a hell of a talent and
the hell of a thrower, but he's got to get
to another level. And he has also got to help
the second year offensive coordinator, well, first year offensive coordinator
in his set. You're going into his third year, meaning CJ.
Stroud since it's still early in this third season, to
elevate his play too. They've got to work and collab
(01:26:07):
and make sure that they're on the same page to
help the offensive line, which in turn has to help Stroud.
But there are a big reason why he's like this,
but is a great talent. He's just gonna have to
overcome it, like we expect every other star quarterback in
the league to do. We expect Burrow to do, we
expect Lamar Jackson to do it. And when they don't,
it's on them and people put it on them. So
it's not just Stroud, trust me, There's a lot going
(01:26:28):
on on that thing. He's not a weakness, but right
now he unfortunately hasn't been the strength that we expect
that we got his rookie year. There's an elevation he
has to get to. It's not just his fault.
Speaker 7 (01:26:38):
I mean, and it goes back to the coordinator higher
over the offseason where you touched on it a little
bit yesterday, Nick Keyley with Matt Stafford would work right now,
It would be fine. Stafford's seen everything, he's done it all,
he's been through it all.
Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
All right foward, lean on Stafford more because Stafford probably
knows more about the posit, well, he knows more than
he does because why he's been doing it longough, here's
an idea.
Speaker 7 (01:26:58):
I mean, I don't know where he is, but I
I know a guy that when I was in Atlanta
covering the Falcons was a pretty decent OC.
Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
Why don't you bring on a guy like Dirt Cutter
as a as a consultant, as a support guy right
now to help this guy out because Dumiko Ryans and
Nick Cassario feel like they got the right guy and
they thought they had it after a rookie year with
Slok and year or two they didn't. They regressed big time,
and that they the progress is going slower than the
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regress is for the offense right now, it just is
so yeah, I get it. Like I said, I would
have preferred a veteran, which doesn't mean I don't like Kayley,
but you're you're you're dealing with basically, Thank goodness, the
verbiage is the same that you didn't have to relearn
that as a quarterback. But there's there, there's there. They're
(01:27:50):
got to find their place and unfortunately they're still in
search of what the identity is. What I mean, play
what they are because right now you don't have it
there identity is obvious. It's playing solid defense. But on
an offense, who's the We don't have an identity yet? Here?
Are you gonna run it well? Mixiner? Are you gonna
throw it well? There's Nico Collins and a bunch of
(01:28:11):
other guys that are trying to make headway. What are
you gonna do? So there is a I usually four
to five weeks in, I can tell you what a
team's identity is. Some we already know. You already know
Philadelphia's identity, and some have more than one. And that's
a good thing, meaning both sides of the ball. Green
Bay's identity has taken another step this year. That's a
team that's taken what they learned from last year and
(01:28:33):
elevated it and they are progressing big time. So it
is there is absolutely no doubt that for the Texans
to do what we expected them to do, the quarterback,
the line, receivers, the run game. The problem is we're
not just saying one thing. There's a weakness at every
step of the way so far offensively, Now, how far
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they think they're away as to how far you think
they're away may be completely different. Because they're in they're
watching tape and doing what they do. It takes one
game to get that rolling, but right now it feels
rigid to me offensively very much.
Speaker 7 (01:29:08):
And that's pretty much what we've seen throughout the first
couple of weeks of the season.
Speaker 5 (01:29:12):
Al Randall will get you involved.
Speaker 7 (01:29:14):
I also, do you want to bring up somebody who
could really help this offense? And I want to know
if indeed you do agree, Sean, so we'll talk Shaw.
I will touch on that here. On the other side.
Speaker 5 (01:29:24):
It is a Shawn Salisbury show on a Western Wednesday
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 5 (01:29:32):
And it no no, now you know, good morning, Al.
Speaker 8 (01:29:41):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 17 (01:29:42):
Dan?
Speaker 19 (01:29:43):
Hey, Sean, great show. Let me let me get a
couple of points in in real quick, Dan, before you
ringing the bill.
Speaker 8 (01:29:49):
Now, Brian never did the bill and he let us cook.
Speaker 7 (01:29:52):
Oh that's not true, that's not true. I used to
listen all the time. Brian would do it all the time.
Don't you put that evil on me?
Speaker 19 (01:30:00):
Not what's south side of the shun verify that? Hey,
let me say this, elf, it's not the quarterback. I
think people don't realize Sean. You was talking about that
just now. They don't realize stroud progression and all that.
Every quarterback MISSI miss a ball or missile throw down.
(01:30:21):
But people don't realize when CJ. Stroud was cooking, he
had all his weapons. He's dealing with Nicocollins and a
bunch of guys trying to make it in this league.
All these other quarterbacks have they weapon. He just has
new co Ocllllins. The rest he the rookie. You try
to get Kristen Kirk, he's a no show. You don't
have Joe Mixon. He's dealing with a bunch of guys
(01:30:42):
trying to.
Speaker 5 (01:30:42):
Find their way.
Speaker 19 (01:30:44):
And so that's a lot got to do with what
he's got going on, because these guys don't understand the
NFL level.
Speaker 5 (01:30:50):
They just got here.
Speaker 19 (01:30:52):
Secondly, the extra point conversion Sean Demiko ran have shown
this team doesn't have a sensor urgency. The game is
not over. They went in there with that play like, okay,
if we get it, we get it. We'll just use
our hat on the defense. And this is my last point, Dan,
and you can ring the bell shun. This defense was
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top three in long plays last year. If I ain't
mistaken correct me, if I'm Wallace. They gave up the
most plays. They was either the top two top three
defense in the league. They ran five points some yards
of carry on them. And it's just overrated defense. We
knew this three two years ago. They didn't address the
(01:31:33):
middle of the D line. They still haven't and teams
have shown you can run on the Texans yeat. A
passing game is cool, but the Kenny's hell off this
for the the sense the Mico been here, it's been
up the middle in defense. It's softened now and they
never addressed it. That and that's all I got to
hang up when poor management on Mico Ryan, he doesn't
(01:31:56):
manage to claim and since the urgency on this team,
and it's gonna be hard to fix because you've shown
your DNA, and I hang up with this, all.
Speaker 5 (01:32:04):
Right, I think, sal there's a lot to chew on there.
I gotta be honest. I mean I caught the defensive
part at the beginning. The offensive parts I don't remember,
Sean Well, defense, I'll help you. Defense. Want some more
stout in the middle because they have been pushed around
the run game in the last couple of years. They've
(01:32:24):
been and well. Demico admitted as such as far as
got to get bigger and fit, more physical on both
sides interior, and he ran into a couple hard I
mean some physical runners in Tampa. That is going to
have to improve, especially if your offense isn't going to explode,
you got to get off the field. Unfortunately at the
(01:32:44):
right time this past week on the drive they missed
out on a couple of tackle, was a tote in
the backfield that had a chance to make the tackle
in the backfield on Baker Mayfield didn't. So we've talked
about that, and then they let him go down to score.
So's there's some things. I don't think there's a glaring
Oh my gosh, this can't see I disagree with al
on the one thing. I think the offensive line is
going to struggle to be fixed during end season. I
(01:33:05):
think you have enough bodies to be good enough in
your front seven to at least be better in the
run game. I do. I think this defense is going
to be the strength of the team and until until
somebody proves me otherwise. Yes, a'l. The weapons, yes, they
They've got to protect the quarterback better and the and
the coordinator has got to be more aggressive while also
(01:33:25):
making sure they put their team in in situations that
aren't Hey, it's third and eight, drop straight back, hold
the ball only block with five and and hope that
you're going to get it out. That that's what you
can't do. But we can't. We can't leave you it.
It's just you just can't take away that's only one
guy or one group's fault. I think if you ask CJ. Shot,
(01:33:46):
are you playing your best football and you've got to
get better, he'd absolutely say I do. I absolutely would.
So it's not just him, but we always focus on
the coach and the quarterback. There's a lot of other
things they got to fix. And maybe they are close
on defense, but there's grouping. Every group needs some work
on the offense and that includes the quarterback and we
(01:34:06):
know that. But from the body of work I've seen,
I know what CJ. Stroud can do throwing the football,
but we can't keep saying that as they keep going
and it's their fault, it's their fall, it's their fall
when it's a clean pocket and when he's got a chance,
he has got to make throws that he made as
a rookie. How much will Christian Kirk help a lot.
It just increases your bandwidth on an offense inside and
(01:34:29):
outside if you can put him on the spetch teams.
But it allows you now to hell, if you're going
to continue to roll coverage and do everything you can
to take Nico Collins away, you've got a guy who
can work the middle of the field and do a
lot of things with the football in his hand. Superstar, No,
but a great addition and a chance to be a
star for this team because of the need for it,
(01:34:49):
and he's a veteran, he understands it. I remember meeting
that kid at the top one hundred players in high
school and I thought I loved his attitude when I
interviewed him, and it's turned out I just like, I
think he's a really good grinder to have on your team.
But aside from that, the guy's talented, and it would
be it'll be a great help. All it does is
expand your offense. Now, quarterbacks still got to be upright,
but what it also does is give you that quick
(01:35:10):
ball to get out some option routes and allowing work
the middle of the field that gives you a security blanket.
Did a lot of quarterbacks find in their tight end
and you can also find it with a slot receiver.
Hopefully that's the case.
Speaker 7 (01:35:21):
This week in Jacksonville, Randall and Sugarland wants to weigh in.
Speaker 20 (01:35:23):
Good morning Randall, Hey, good morning, Good morning Shun and Dan.
First of all, I like to give a shout out
to Triple Leaf for us doing such a great job
in the backgrounds always Sean, you was spot on when
you were talking about the philosophy of decision making. I think,
other than execution, the decision making lost that football game because.
Speaker 10 (01:35:48):
It was early in the game. It was early.
Speaker 20 (01:35:49):
You had enough time to kick the field goal and
get back on defense and play ball. Okay, Houston Detexans
have a history and Matt Sharp and David Carr was there.
They was decent quarterbacks. But the offensive line, the history
of the offensive line has been a problem for the
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Houston Texans, and for some reason they would not fix
the offensive line.
Speaker 10 (01:36:15):
And not only that, I think that.
Speaker 8 (01:36:21):
And when.
Speaker 10 (01:36:23):
My man ran for.
Speaker 20 (01:36:24):
Fifteen yards, Strive ran for about fifteen yards right before
the AD, they should have went to a hurry of offense.
They don't have a situational plays. They don't have situational plays.
I sit there and I'm watch them intent a too
many drill and run the.
Speaker 10 (01:36:43):
Football or past the football.
Speaker 20 (01:36:44):
But you have to have situational situations to be.
Speaker 10 (01:36:50):
Able to execute good plays.
Speaker 20 (01:36:51):
You have to at some point pro the teams off
that you're playing.
Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
And we don't do that.
Speaker 20 (01:36:57):
We don't have trick plays.
Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
We don't.
Speaker 8 (01:36:58):
We don't.
Speaker 10 (01:36:59):
We just basic for all and you.
Speaker 11 (01:37:01):
Can just want us the way you want them.
Speaker 20 (01:37:03):
Whoopers, But I think that they'll they'll be okay if
they fix the offensive line. But the Miko Rans is
going to have to make better decisions when it comes
to get guaranteed points. Kick your field goals and keep
playing football. I don't know why these team has gotten
back from old fashioned football analytics and philosophies. Let's just
(01:37:25):
go out there and play some hard nosed, old school
football and win those games.
Speaker 10 (01:37:31):
And you know, I hang up and listen. But the
Texans have to be better.
Speaker 5 (01:37:36):
All I appreciate it, definitely have to be better. And
here's why I bring up the when you're down for
to kick a field goal when there's time. While we
say okay, you trust, you're trying to send them out
and they were trying to send a message we're down here,
but the message they sent was we're gonna finessey instead
of be physical with you. That's one. Two is how
much do you trust your defense? In truth, the way
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they were playing, you trusted them a lot, sure, and
so you trusted your defense to get you the ball
back if you go for it. But there's also to
the field of thoughts says, let's get it with it
a point, our defense will get a stop and we'll
come down and we'll be in field goal range. So
it goes both ways. I would think you'd lean on Hell. Yeah,
he trust the defense because if we don't get it
on fourth down, we're going to get a stop. We
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are going to get a stop and make them go
ninety eight yards or whatever it is, right, And then
the next series was that the next series when Christian
Harris had a face mask, moved it out to the twenty,
and that's how they flipped it that I think that
I think they were. They were We're talking about the
same exact series. The bottom line is, you know, he
trusts his defense, but he sures heck doesn't trust the
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physicality of his offense, or they would have run the football.
Speaker 7 (01:38:42):
The intention was to trust the offense. But the problem is,
and it's twofold, you didn't trust your offensive line.
Speaker 5 (01:38:49):
I think it was. I think it was. I think
it was. You were trying to send a message for
your offense that I believe that we're down here. I'm
gonna believe in you that we can get this done.
The problem is, in the process of saying it out
of the other side of your mouth, you threw the football.
Didn't give them a chance to come out and puff
their chests say we ran this ball in like Tampa
right now. Is saying you get inside a three yard
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line right now, we're gonna do everything. We're running it.
And that's how they feel at the end. So while
you're trying to send a message for your offense, I believe,
and you go put this in the end zone, then
you know you're lining up in the gun and throwing
it regularly and not getting back to what linemen loved
to do, beat the snot out of somebody else and
body blow them on a regular basis. So, in the
of trying to send a message, you sent the message
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loud and clear on your believability in your offense, which
is we're gonna have to throw it or at least
if he turned it over to Kaylee and didn't say,
see I know in Denny Green real quick. When we
had Brian Billick, who was a brilliant offensive play caller,
Denny never told him what to do on the sidge,
but in a very subtle way, about a subtle as
a punch to the face. He'd walk by and say,
give me your best run. If it's third and two,
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that didn't mean throw the ball. That meant give me
your best run. Or sweet, don't you dare throw the
ball here, give Robert Smith the football and we're gonna
run it. Or he'd go by and say, give me
your best run, you get two downs. I'd stand ready
and you hear it all the time. Could he be
standing next to Brian or Denny because you're trying to
help the quarterback and listen to what's going on. Give
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me your best run, you get two downs, Throw the football.
Throw the football didn't mean hand it off. It meant
so Dinny had his way. That's exactly right. Without telling
you what play to call, that's on you. You're the coordinator.
You get paid. You dial up the formation and the
movement in the motion and get your quarterback and say, Page,
give me your best run. And that was the loud
messages said. And if he said give me your best
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runs down here you got two downs to get in,
that didn't mean on the second one throw it. That
meant whatever it is, you find me your second best
run and get it in the end zone. And that
was the message said. And I understand, give it autonomy,
let your coordinator do it. But there is that moment
when you got to say, listen, you want to send
a message, run it three or four straight downs. I
don't care you run the ball. We're sending a line
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message that we are not going to be a finesse team.
And unfortunately they looked finesse again and the finesse wasn't
good enough to beat Tampa, who did both physical and
finesse better than the Texans offense.
Speaker 7 (01:41:12):
Kenneth Ray, biscuits will work in you want to join
them Someone three two and two five seven ninety against
someone three two and two five seven ninety, continuing the
Texans conversation Here Sean Salisbury Show There for the Shawn
Salisbury Show continued. Let's go to my dad's hometown, Orange.
Let's talk with Kenneth Good morning.
Speaker 5 (01:41:31):
Kenneth.
Speaker 8 (01:41:33):
Here, Good morning.
Speaker 13 (01:41:34):
I got a command triple y uh with a good
job and uh most of all the callers. You don't
hear from me much because your callers seem to always
cover what I have on my mind. But I want
to add something this morning, and I feel it's very
important and it really discussed me. Man, to be boying
your team like that. Man, I know what it's like
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not to have a team here, because see, we had
an owner here got tired of that miss and going
through the changes of getting what he wants. And everybody
got to be aware of it. Man, our stadium need repairs,
and really they talking about it. They really wanted another stadium.
But the thing of it is here, we got to
have it and not showing up and see a team
here to make money too, and see a good a team,
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A good team. A bad team is like this pretty
woman you didn't appreciate for somebody else, a taker. You
look up, you might find this team in another city. Man,
we're gonna have to appreciate this team. Where your quarterback
get knocked on the air, have a bad day, bad week,
or bad year, you bag him up. Man, you don't
boo your quarterback.
Speaker 11 (01:42:37):
Thank you, man.
Speaker 7 (01:42:39):
I appreciate the call. I mean with Bud Adams, that
was more on him. That wasn't about the city not
loving the Oilers. It's just they didn't love him and
they didn't want to give him what he wanted. How
do you feel about booing your own team? Honestly, they're
the deep the deep part of it. Cancer is on
to something you reserved the right do whatever. Well, yeah,
not to do whatever you want. Throwing beer on people
and doing all this just.
Speaker 5 (01:43:00):
Beings relatively harmless, right if you bought a ticket, I mean,
does it I never really, never really bothered. But it
hits a little different when you and I have been
booted at home. I think anybody who've ever played you
have one of those games that it was like, boob
but I've heard it, and you can't. You can't bother
you during the game because you've got to go out
there and prove it otherwise, and so hopefully you do.
(01:43:20):
But there is a party and when you walk out,
there's a damn that didn't take long.
Speaker 7 (01:43:23):
Well, I mean, what was happening on Monday night? And
by the way, that was a full building on Monday night.
People support this team, that's not the issue. You got
a problem with booing home team. No, I don't. I
mean because people both absolutely both. I mean I've been,
as a matter of fact, have been one of your
favorite ballparks, David Ortiz. I think we can agree that
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fan base loves that guy hit a routine ground ball
the second base and I mean wasn't even a jog
to first base.
Speaker 5 (01:43:50):
Starts getting booed. So if that guy can get booed,
anybody can't judge got booted. Has been booed in the
past in the postseason at times, has it.
Speaker 7 (01:43:56):
It's just it's look, as you said, I'm much of
that than you throwing things onto the field to show
your kids. Yeah, you're distaste. I'd much rather you do that.
But I mean the booze the other night where this
thing was supposed to be better offensively, and I'm booing
because well, this thing sucks. This thing looks like it
did last year. And if that's the case, then why
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did you make a change.
Speaker 5 (01:44:20):
Yeah, they got some fixing to do, and I don't
think Kenneth, I get your point. But either the new
facility or upgrade that one, which they're going to do
one of the two. Right. I don't think we're in
any danger. The NFL won't let Houston leave, and they're not.
They're printing money over there. They're fine, and it's be kind.
The organization has gotten better much they have. They've gotten
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better as far as you know. They they're trying to
shore things up. They got good people in the right positions.
I understand kennis frustration. I also understand why you don't
want the home team. But one thing Kenneth is building
that scar tissue up is that most players that aren't
overly sensitive know when you're having one of those days. Hell,
I've been booed out of my own damn home at
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times when I'm doing you know, when you're not put dad,
what why do? Right? So it happens. It's just that
if it becomes a habit, you end up making a change,
right because you got to get better. We're not anywhere
near that. But there's some things they got to do. See,
I'm not even thinking about things they got to do
in the division. The division colts. You know, the cults
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are to and over, but that division's far from over.
You did get to play them twice. But what I
do know is that I think bigger for them, just
like we do the Astros. To me, we've gotten to
the point playoffs, that's the first. You got to go
play well to get to the playoffs. But the playoffs
can't be the goal.
Speaker 7 (01:45:41):
The Astros have been booed at home before they got
swept by the Royals a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5 (01:45:44):
There did the Astros. I mean, the Astras or the
Texans can't be the goal is and the and the
Rockets created that last year with the way they've played
in how Doka has got them playing better, that's no
longer the goal. That's part of the process, that's the journey.
But it stands. You know, it's all okay, win the division, fine,
but that's not enough because most teams that expect more
when you win the division. Yeah, great thumbs up with
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your exit interview. When you go the offseason, it's not fun.
You say, we played some pretty good football and we
learned something, but we got to be better and it's
so now. Listen, if you're the Giants and you make
the playoffs, dude, you're ecstatic. Right. You're the Jets and
you get in the playoffs, man, you you may have
hit the ceiling on your goal this year because you
can't expect much more. Even though they'll tell you we
were here to win a championship, you didn't win a
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no championship, and you know going in you're the Saints
know going in this year they were they don't have
enough talent, but getting the playoffs is a huge win
for them. Getting to the playoffs now great, gets people
pay raises in some cases keep making the playoffs no
go further. It gets people fired. So the expectations have
been raised, so our level as fans, expectation has been raised.
And when they fall short of it twice in a
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row and two games had a chance to win and
have it, it's like a closure blowing a save two
times in a row, he'd get booed too. So it's
gonna happen. The key is what do you do with it?
We always ask, well why why? Then the next question is, okay, well,
how are you going to fix it? That's my concern.
I've seen two games, and the two games I've seen
flashes of brilliance, a lot of average and some bad
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and more of the other two when it comes to
offensively than the good stuff. Now, the next thing is,
how do you fix it? How do you get this
offensive line to say enough's enough? How do you get CJ.
Stout to get back and putting that anchor in that
back foot, putting into ground, not being a little frantic
in the pocket, and getting back to knowing what we
know he can do. One of the best pure throwers
of the football in the league. And how do you
get the physicality of a run game to say enough
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if we're going down one of these times, I'm not
going down the pillow fight and in a pass protection,
I am going to wear you out. And if we
get beat, so be it. At least a message was
sent right now. Unfortunately, you can out physical that the
your physical skills Tampa or whoever else to play are
far better on their defense than the finesse skills right
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now are with the Texans offense.
Speaker 7 (01:47:58):
And you hope it's message received starting Sunday in Jacksonville,
because it's Texans would like to get on the board
with a win. Ray Biscuit Gary work in someone three
two one two five seven ninety against Someone three two
one two five seven ninety. Continued sections conversation here Sean
Salisbury show.
Speaker 1 (01:48:15):
Oh also check this out.
Speaker 19 (01:48:16):
I should have warned you if Sewan only cares about
cold hard.
Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:48:26):
Pretty good little movie. What about dos Boot?
Speaker 7 (01:48:29):
That's what they were doing, shoot the boot, yeah, which
in this case it wasn't actually shooting the boot, because
when you shoot the boot, it's you just take your
boot off and you pour some in there and you
shoot the boot.
Speaker 5 (01:48:40):
You don't how to say doss boot? Well, I mean
just said it, so yeah, get real quick, doss boot. Yeah.
I like that Goss boot. So I want you to
refer to the silver boot. Could you do that Doss boot? Yeah?
All right, there you go.
Speaker 7 (01:48:49):
I mean, look, you know for New Brothels and right
there Central Texas, I'm sure that probably resonates with some
of those people, and you fighting for some fans over there.
Speaker 5 (01:48:57):
So you get to New bron Fels. It's a great town.
It really is green, good time. And I've never been
out to worst Miltree. What's that? What's Frederick Fredericksburg? Like?
They I like antiques and I like those shops, and
that's get there. Yeah, take the lady out there. That's it.
So you got to go out there and play a
little uh be a solid ball striker, get golf out there.
(01:49:18):
Oh yeah, fine, little little song, little little little bar.
All good peeps. I heard nothing. I mean people come
from far and wide to go to Fredericks, right. Yeah.
I love antiquing, do you. I mean no, I like
finding like furniture, like like I like furniture and antiques.
So it's like, oh, man, that looks like it be
(01:49:39):
cool in my backyard, like for like a table or something.
Speaker 7 (01:49:42):
My cousin's husband found a program and bought it for
me from the first exhibition game at the Astrodome between
the Astros and Yankees.
Speaker 5 (01:49:50):
Awesome. See I like that stuff, man. So I don't
know why I haven't been out there.
Speaker 7 (01:49:53):
But like in terms of like old lamps that look
like you would be inside an old pizza hut.
Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
No, I'm good. Oh but you can find some good
tables and some good you know, there's some I like
some of those. Some some really good well done woodworking
and stuff and iron and stuff.
Speaker 8 (01:50:08):
I like.
Speaker 7 (01:50:09):
I like you when you buy it as soon as
you know you you pay the cash for it, and
they've got the old paper tag right there with the
price written on it. You do you say as you're
moving it to the truck, man, they don't build them
like they used to.
Speaker 5 (01:50:21):
Who doesn't man? You see, but you'll see an old
school movie too, and they'll show like the foyer of
the house when you when you're there and you'll see
the staircase and it's big, thick wood and you're like,
I don't build them like they said. Yes, that's what
you have to say, and that and that it is,
but it's it is a fact. It's all. It's almost
like that hurry through a building now as opposed to
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get to the next one is finish a community, trust me,
and then they will do that to get the next
one instead of every nook and cranny proper. It's it's
mass production instead of constant good production in some of
the building.
Speaker 7 (01:50:54):
That's that's where when you get into a certain tax bracket,
then you can tell them like, no, this is the
way I want it right, so now you're going to
redo it. Yeah, that's a fact. Yeah, no doubt to
be able to get to that point someday. But Astros
GM Dana Brown going to join us here in about
thirty minutes. The Texans going to be back to work
getting ready for the Jags on Sunday. They're zero and
(01:51:15):
two and a lot of you want to be able
to talk some Texans, So let's do it. Seven one, three,
two and two five seven ninety. It's got South Florida, Miami. Ray,
Good morning, Ray, Hey man.
Speaker 17 (01:51:26):
I want to say something first to his last caller.
It's a difference between a Fairweather fan and a diehard
Easton Texans fans. Let me tell you something. When Bob
and I wrote that check to give us the football team,
a lot of Heastonians was in tears. A lot of
Heastonians was in tears. And you guys understand that. And
(01:51:48):
for you to be knocking on the door to the
SC championship game, man, trying to show me an acy
championship game, And now you start to knowing too, these
guys in South Florida feeling the same way too. Is
getting booed out of his mind right now. So they
showed him something down here in Florida, and that is
not showing him that that guy is a Fairweather fan.
And I'm a diehard Houston Texans fan and I ain't
(01:52:09):
spent a lot of money on Houston Texans merchandise shipping
it over here getting the game when I was living
in Houston. I don't spent a lot of money in
them guys, So I feel like I have a right
to boot them whenever I want to, and they cheer
for them whenever I want to, And I'm gonna be
a Texans fan forever.
Speaker 5 (01:52:26):
That's a good, great point, right, and two is mercilessly
getting hammered. Wow is right on? He is It is
Mike McDaniel. They lose three more in a row. He
may McDaniels, McDaniels, Josh McDaniels, Mike McDaniel, they lose three
more in a row, dude, or get beat in the
next couple. He may be back on Kyle Shanahan's staff
(01:52:48):
as a run game coordinator. You think that this team
is finesse that team, dude, men handled that men handled
by Mike Rabel's Patriots. The Finesses with a capital F. Dude.
The Miami Dolphins are the softest team in the league.
You know how they say they take on the person
out of your head, coach, take a look at the
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just just all you gotta do is weird guys are
starting to show up in cap That's strange. It's it's strange,
Tom Landry, you know where those capri pants on the sideline?
If we you know, you're not allowed to wear a
coat and tie anymore. Really, Jack del Rio did it
once in Jacksonville. They give him one time a year.
I think that you can do it or something. You can't.
But you can go out and wear joggers that pulled
(01:53:30):
up to your knees like he does in your knees
and like like you're getting ready to go to a
what's the best way, Well, you're getting ready to go
to a mamba Clyde. What are they called zoomba? Mambo zoomba?
You know who's counting? Yeah, but that's fine. Bottom line
is this, If they were winning, it'd be fashionable. They're
(01:53:51):
getting their ass kicked. Everybody was to know why he's
wearing the stuff on the side. But they are soft
as a wet piece of paper towel. And it ain't Brownie. Okay, brownie,
the paper town not Brownie. So yeah, he's getting booed
and it does get you. You want to boot your
boo wah. And if you're most of us when we're
getting booed at home, know why you get it because
you're playing like ass and that's that that's a problem offensively,
(01:54:12):
but you know what, it's part and parcel to the
paycheck and which with the expectations that you've stud well, you.
Speaker 7 (01:54:17):
Want to avoid the booze produce Biscuit going to close
the South to Soeur Biscuit, Good morning, Top of the morning.
Speaker 10 (01:54:25):
Hey real quick man Sean his book. You know, my
thing is everybody got to write the boom man, But
is it productive?
Speaker 20 (01:54:34):
Man?
Speaker 10 (01:54:34):
That doesn't help the team when you boom at home.
Speaker 5 (01:54:38):
I've never booted. I don't boom biscuit. I mean I everybody.
I've never boot anybody in my life. I may have
disdained for what's going on, like oh my gosh, you
got to make that throw or that catch, but I've
never I've been booed more than I've ever booed. I
don't think I've ever been to a stadium and boot anybody.
I've been pissed or internally, but I've never booted out
loud because I don't know what purpose it serves. But
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I understand why people's frustration boils to a point with
all the money they're spending. It's just never been for me,
I understand why they do it, but I don't boom
because it's not doing me any good.
Speaker 10 (01:55:11):
I think, I think if it's lack of infert good.
But the other than that, you know, but let me
shine real quick. Two things that stick after me is
then third and long too much? Oh yeah, the third
and long, man, you're not gonna And that's the problem
I think, Dan is they're not getting enough plays. Run
(01:55:33):
They not you know, getting first downs, and so you
got to stay out of third and long and the shine.
That's where to me, I think some of us have
to go to CJ. I'm watching the game the other night,
man Shalter's inn. The shelter's in the flat all the time,
wide open. But Seej's not looking for that. But I'm saying, shoun,
third and two is better than third and seven, you know,
(01:55:55):
throwing the shows. Let him get fired yards and then
will you know, we'll line up, because when you get
third and long, shine, you know, here come these exotic
blitzes and you know you blaming the line, but they
bring in five or six people now, and so I
just think you gotta get a better grass for getting
third and shorts at a third and long. And then
to our last question.
Speaker 8 (01:56:16):
Of Shine, is you on the goal line.
Speaker 13 (01:56:18):
And I understand what you.
Speaker 10 (01:56:19):
Said earlier by running the ball, but Shine, you got
a one on one matchup with your best player. Third goal,
that was the play. And for the like mean, why
they ran that particular route, that little stopping goal on
the goal line, that's not enough. Yeah, why they didn't
(01:56:41):
run a sweat with the big dude or back show
to fade, which you got the big tall receiver. It's
one on one. That's what got me, Shine, that was
that's my only complain And and told to not making
the tackle those two plays and he lost the game.
Speaker 5 (01:56:54):
Yeah, and it's it's between it's usually sixty eight plays
and end up costing a miskick here, a block punt here,
the tackle in the pocket, air biscuit, great stuff, real quick.
I can tell you this that third in law. That's
what I've always said. Third and seven. I can blitch you,
force you to throw hot, tackle you for a four
yard game and make you punt third and two. You
blitz me, I throw hot, he catches it for a
(01:57:14):
three yard game. It's a first down, that's only and
it's third down. Is not the most important out of football.
I'm just going to tell you it's not. It's the
last one we see. So we say, ah, they failed
on third down. I'm telling you third and nine eighty.
I ain't got many plays in my playbook for third
and twelve. But first down is the most important. You
get six yards of more on first down, you control
the next two down. That's what Jack. You have to
win first down. I've set it for twenty five. Well
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sean third, No, because if third down is the most important,
and I'm and I go minus four on first down,
third and fourteen ain't doing me any good. It happened
to me once and Brian Billick, who is a great
friend and a great coach, I held the ball too long.
Once we get to like third and eighteen, I look
over sideline to get to play. He points at me.
I look back over the sideline, get to play. Points
(01:57:58):
at me. You know what he was sending a message,
hold the ball longer. This is on you. I don't
have a play for third and eighteen. So you go,
you dial up a call to play, get yards back
and punt go over there. Great point message set take
care of you. It's not just see but I'm talking
about in my case, Yeah, yeah, we ain't gonna win
many games if you're not winning on first down. Look
at the stats. Teams that went on first down five
(01:58:19):
and a half yards or more are going to win
more games, period, and especially if you're not good enough
to overcome third and nine. And this team isn't right now, no,
and it's leading to a lot of three and outs.
Speaker 7 (01:58:29):
Sorry, let's get back into the Astros as a familiar face,
hopefully back soon. Maybe some reason for optimism we'll discuss
here Sean Salisbury's show heading into the nine o'clock hour
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Speaker 3 (02:00:34):
Dan Matthews, this is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 7 (02:00:43):
There's still a half game from the Stros. Strows in
front of the Rangers by four games now, so a
win tonight with nine games to go after this one,
you'd be up five in front of them, effectively knocking
them out. Let's go. Let's go for it tonight. Go
for the juggular if you're the Strows. Dana Brown gonna
join us, coming up at nine point thirty. Josh Hater
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could start throwing next week, keeping the door open for
a possible postseason return, telling reporters yesterday, just taking it
day by day, seeing how I'm recovering. There's no set
timetable for me to get back for the first week
of the playoffs, but if everything goes well, it's looking
like we could possibly be back for the second, third,
fourth round. It just depends on how I'm recovering from throwing.
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He of course, has that shoulder strains so a long shot,
it sounds like. But at least, if nothing else, it
does seem like that you would get Josh Hater back
at some point in the good news with him too,
he's not a guy that you look for to get
you a ton of pitches in an inning that you
want him to be able to go in there close
out the ninth. But just here's the problem with me, though,
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Sean is for the layoff that he's had, and let's
just say that what he just said plays out, that'd
be almost two and a half months if that guy
hadn't closed a game.
Speaker 5 (02:01:57):
I don't know if I can use him there. But
if you bring him back, that's exactly where you're going
to use him. You have to be. Yeah, So once
again we always think of okay, it's good to go,
but good to go? Okay, ready fit and got now
throwing off the mound. Now back into that rhythm, because
you're I mean, you know it's almost a restart, isn't it.
I mean to get back and even as a closer
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closer to lengthen it out to twenty five pitches that
thrown at ninety eight, right, whatever it is you're doing. So,
I just think the safe thing is to say that'd
be like, Okay, are you getting heater in the next
twelve days? Heater? Are you getting Josh hater in the
next on a heater? You get Josh the next twelve days. No,
So it's playoffs or bust. Right, And at least the
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divisional round is what sounds like would be apposible. Divisional
round hadn't thrown yet. Well, we five game series and
division right, one game, it's one game apiece. You got
to close it out. Got a two run lead, and
he hasn't pitched you throwing him got you right? Yeah,
you got to assume that his work in the bullpen
and his sides out there, if he's out there, you sha,
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that's exactly right. So it's it's going to be close
or bust. I just think it's I think it's awfully
ambitious to get him ready if he's not going to
be ready in the post, and then to trust that
it's going to be hitting the ground running. But he
started the season fast coming out of spring training, right,
I mean he was on fire right off the bat
and twenty two save appearances, All Star Game and the
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rest of it. So, but if you're running him out there.
The key is how quickly are you going to advance
this forward? And he says day to day, no timetable.
But for me, they're always you know what I'm saying,
It's like a goals if there's no end date on
a goal. And now, I know injuries are different, but
if you say, hey, I want to be a ten
handicap in the next year, you're starting to work towards
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that ten handing whatever it takes to get there. Same
thing here, it can't be well, I hope say one
day would be a ten handicap. Well, then twenty years
from now you still won't be a ten handicap, right,
So even with injuries, I don't I know with me,
when I blew out my kneees on my shoulder, it's like, okay,
they tell me. It's it's like, let's say this, this
is seven months, Well you're all your mind is always
like seven months. They don't know me, right, I'm gonna
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get it down in five and a half. So I
just wonder where they are. And then it always comes
down to how does that player feel. Hater would be
different than a brayw who would be different than your
don who'd be different than Paratus, and it's hard for
us to accept. We wanted all to be same, like robotic,
but when you're in his role, you can't run out
there at eighty five percent because that will mean a
quick exit.
Speaker 7 (02:04:24):
Bennett Susa too, currently rehabbing in Florida and has resumed throwing.
That was a couple of days ago that we found
that out. Maybe he could be back for the playoffs.
So I mean, it's kind of pie in the sky.
But if you are able to get in, and like
I said too, you're only two and a half games
out of the second spot, if you are able to
overtake the Mariners to get back in the first place.
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So a nice finish off this series, a good series
against the Mariners, and then a nice week next week
you don't even maybe even have to worry about that
wildcard round. But there is still a lot of work
to be done before we can even think about.
Speaker 5 (02:04:59):
The lot of work. And yet we're down to ten games.
But it feels like a lot of work left, right,
I agree.
Speaker 7 (02:05:04):
I mean, especially where the Astros sit at the moment,
as I mentioned, half a game behind the Mariners, and
I mean, you know, we I think had a good
idea too, that this weekend series was where it all
was going to come down to. Is whoever wins that series,
you win the West and you're on your home field.
They for the most part don't play well away from
T Mobile Park, and now you have a chance to
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be able to overtake them.
Speaker 5 (02:05:28):
It would be really really nice too in this win streak.
It's it's kind of double ed edge. You want to
go and win the division, but there's also this, say
there's a vision winner. We can be a pain in
the ass to their to their hopes as well, and
see if we can get them reeling before the playoff,
because right now they're playing as good as anybody in
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baseball and they are banging it for sure. They did
again last night.
Speaker 7 (02:05:53):
They and and that's the thing too, It's always been
the biggest thing with the Mariners is that it just
seems like they're always a bat away from being able
to overtake you. I think that Jerry Depoto finally said, oh,
Haino Suarez. Josh Naylor, Yeah, we're adding those guys because
we're serious about this thing.
Speaker 5 (02:06:12):
They've always come up short because of it, and now
they've added you know, when you're talking Seattle. Now you're talking.
There's some prodigious power in that lineup, and they're dangerous
and they are playing like it. And we know they
got good pitching. So your work's cut out for you.
Get them at home, but there's gonna be a battle.
And don't look now, man, but look at what the
A's did to the Red Sox. I mean, don't throw
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that series away. The way that they play the Astros
and they got young guys just free swinging. I mean,
they're still, like I said, there's ten games ago. We
got to take care of this today. It's by no stretch.
The division's not over, obviously, wild cards over, but you
can extend this for you by taking care of the
Texas Rangers today to create some leeway in that part
of it.
Speaker 7 (02:06:51):
And another thing too, injury wise, we were talking about
with Hater and Susa Estak Paradis yesterday on Twitter no
caption know anything or Instagram, I'm sorry on his instant story,
just a picture of him standing on first base and
people are like, uh so, maybe Dana's not wrong that
this weekend. I mean, you've lost jord On and you're
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not going to have him for this series probably for
the rest of the regular season. But no matter what
with peretis because the production was there and we appreciated
the production. What was the one thing that everybody was
saying about parretis when they lost him, of man, we're
losing those.
Speaker 5 (02:07:26):
At bats and the fact that he's been able to
as good as anybody give you as close to Bregman
on working counts as anybody in the lineup. He just has.
That's it's great specialty his and we know the guy
he replaced was as good as anybody in the league
at doing that, you know, and understanding the strike zone.
It'd be a great benefit to have him, and you're
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probably gonna need him. And if if the injuries as
significant as they kind of we feel it is walking
boot and no timetable. Like the hater situation, you should
probably go into this thinking we're gonna have to win
a playoff series without jord On, and if you get
him for that playoff series, well, god bless you. I
don't think you're seeing him. You're sure as hell not
going to see him in Seattle. I mean here against
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Seattle and then the last two series. I don't think
you're going to run him out there at eighty percent.
It's too risky.
Speaker 7 (02:08:13):
What's at stake for the astros we talked about a
little bit, but they also seem like this part of
their team really gets what the assignment is.
Speaker 5 (02:08:21):
We'll discuss that here.
Speaker 7 (02:08:22):
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Speaker 1 (02:09:58):
We're going to have to turn this over to Sean
Oh no more.
Speaker 3 (02:10:04):
Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (02:10:07):
And Sean, I mean sure as you're born. You know
you've asked Diana Brown before about small ball. I would
say situational hitting. Last night, at least a couple A
handful of examples that I can think of is the
very first inning, you get the leadoff single from Jeremy Pania,
that's nice. You get the double down the left field
line by Carlos Korea, and you're like, okay, hey, here
(02:10:29):
we go. Well we got runners on second and third,
nobody out. But then you kind of then slink back
into reality. We're like, oh, yeah, we've seen this before.
We know how this goes. Somebody hits a taper to
a third base the infield's end, so you can't score
the run. Christian Walker strikes out. But situational hitting number one,
Jose Al Tuve, I gotta lift this ball somewhere. I
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gotta put this ball in the air and off the bat.
You're thinking he lifted it up in the air. Hell,
he's got a chance to put that thing in the
crow for boxes deep enough, Jeremy Panna, he can jog home.
He didn't, but he could, and you score the run
right there. I believe it was the third inning, Jose
Al Twove laying down a bunt, and.
Speaker 5 (02:11:13):
He's going to try on that a lot lately. He has,
I mean, just because trying to find any way to
go on he's trying to get the you know, the
hand eye there, trying to be able to barrel up
the baseball.
Speaker 7 (02:11:24):
Do all those different types of things. But does that
and you move the runners up second and third. And
I had made the joke at the time that I said,
Ross Villareal and the tenth inning show will take all
of your bunt calls, every single one of them if
you score both of these runs. They only scored one.
But still, But let me ask you this. Now, you
brought this bunt thing up. Why the disdain not just
(02:11:45):
by disdain, Dan, but why And maybe you don't have
disdain for it, you just bring it up the situation.
It's one thing to rely on bunting all the time,
be like a bunt, bunt butt like it wins championships,
But situational baseball does require bunting once in a while.
Why are we so down on it? Because this team
struggles to not give away outs, and you're giving away
an out.
Speaker 5 (02:12:07):
Even when you can't. You're having trouble pushing runners across
or getting them over and in scoring position when they're there,
you're struggling. So what's the difference in bunting and getting
first and second and getting to second third? Isn't that
the job? Perhaps it is, but I mean, why is
that job? Chain?
Speaker 7 (02:12:26):
But it's also though too, you can call for a bunch,
which in that case, that was when I was listening
to Robert and Steve and they both agreed. They were like, no,
that was on al tuo v al Twove just did
that on his own, all right.
Speaker 5 (02:12:37):
But when you say giving up at a bout, what's
giving up at a bet? Not doing your jobs? Giving
up at a bet? But is there any difference in
taking a full swing and popping out to centerfield or
popping out to the first basement? Was running from. I'm
not listening. I don't advocate. I'm a bunting when I
was playing a free swinger, I get all that. That
didn't sound right. You get my point? Yeah, with a
baseball bat in my hand, is it's on you. I
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don't have pineapples upside down on my shoulder. You're good
so shopping. But I'm under saying why are because it's
not macho, because it's small ball. Yet you get a
general manager who's come on here and said I asked him,
I said, do you want to be a team that's
known as move rounds over to play small ball this
was last year, or just you just bang it now.
Of course you want to slug, and all the evidence
says if you can hit the ball out of the ballpark.
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But I've never understood that. You can tell me batting
average doesn't matter. Guy hits three hundred, guy hits two twenty,
who's on basemore that average doesn't matter, So regardless of
all your the nerd analytics that we all love but
also get tired of when it's too much of it.
And then the other thing is I mean, so in
nineteen eighty or nineteen ninety four or in two thousand,
getting guy over and getting guys at second third and
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doing your job, which was applauded. Now he squared it,
but yeah he got up in second there. But what
if he'd hit in the gap. Yeah, but what if
he pops out to first base? I mean, it's the same.
Speaker 7 (02:13:48):
And I think you just get a better result from
taking a swing because just because you try to execute
the bunt doesn't mean you're going to do it.
Speaker 5 (02:13:57):
Yeah, but you're also not going to execute the swing
and you're not going to actually and we said, well
swing and miss doesn't matter. Why doesn't swing and mismatter.
When you put the ball in play, you give an
opportunity for somebody to make an error or for it
to fall. I just the analytics and sometimes the thinking
of some How did the job change from nineteen ninety
five to twenty twenty five where getting runners in scoring
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position matters? But you know what, we'd applaud runners on
first and second right hand her up, punches it to
the right side, hits a slow roller to second, throws
out the guy at first, fielder's choice, they move on
to second, third man. That's a great way to get
the runner aside. But you lay down a bunch and
push it down the first baseline, get him over a
second third. What are we doing bunting? So I don't
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understand the that's like saying we're on the footway. I
threw a touchdown pass, so I ran it in for
a score. Oh gosh, unless you're a fantasy lover, Well,
why is that a problem. Now? Listen, you got your
cleanup hitter on and there's runners at first and third,
and he scores around a bunt because you're afraid of
hitting hitting into a double play, Then well, then I
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got to check somebody's skull. I take Jordan's not scoring
around a butnt but in certain situations. And I understand
a guy struggling wants to lay down a bunt because
he's just trying to get something going. But I just
there's a time and a place for all of it.
And Dana said he'd rather be known instead of that
a small ball was more effective. That's why I said.
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I was a tweet about the Texans talking about it,
and we heard our cack on it, but we did
the and it was a valid point on you know,
gimmick plays or you know, the okie dope play. We
don't do enough of that one thing that is right
and was asked on Twitter. I can tell you this,
Okie dope and trick plays do not win championships. You
know what wins it? Oh, they're fine and dandy, like
the pitch to Foles who throws the you know, throw
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it back to Foles for the touchdown. You know what
wins championships? Doing the boring, same oldtables every single day,
but doing it right all the time. Now, it's not
gonna be all to me. You get my point. If
you execute that the trick plays will come. Trick plays
cannot sustain you. And when you may win a game
on a trick play, but it was the seventy other
plays that allowed you to get in a position to
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run a trick play. It's the same thing here. Hit
the ball in the ballpark's great. This team doesn't hit
the val ball at the ballpark very much. We'll just
put the ball in play, though, and that's what Christian
Walker did say Louder put the ball in play, thank you,
whether that's swinging or moving somebody over via bunt. Do
I want somebody to square around five times a game? No,
but there is a time and a place with the
disdain for he bunnet. You're not giving away in at
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bat if it's a successful at bat.
Speaker 7 (02:16:28):
In this case, it was there you go tout. That's right,
all right. So it's that time of the week. Astro
GM Dana Brown going to join us for his weekly visit.
We will do that right here on a Western Wednesday,
Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3 (02:16:42):
For the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 5 (02:16:44):
Continued, Hey, and welcome, man. It's great to talk to you.
Just on an Nex's and Oh's point of it is
what's your favorite thing your offensive club is doing right now?
Speaker 8 (02:16:57):
Yeah, the favorite thing is with scoring runs.
Speaker 5 (02:16:59):
So yeah, that's that's a good thing, right.
Speaker 13 (02:17:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (02:17:03):
I said, look, we have to score runs. When we
score four runs or more, our team is really good.
And you know the fact that us, the fact that
we are scoring runs right now, it gets me excited.
So I know that we can pitch and so you know,
we score runs with our win ball games.
Speaker 5 (02:17:22):
Yeah, Dana, are you seeing You've been begging for quality
at bats and we know kind of what that goes
under and you see it a little more expertise than
we do. But are you getting more quality at bats
with these runs? I mean it would seem like you are,
but in your eyes that you see, are you getting
them from the people you need them from?
Speaker 13 (02:17:40):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (02:17:40):
Last night, as you've noticed that, you know, we have
some really good at bats and that's why we were
able to put up six runs. And so we're getting
those quality at bats.
Speaker 17 (02:17:49):
Now.
Speaker 8 (02:17:50):
It's good time to get hot. You know, we're four
of our last five, we've won the last two series
and so you know we're starting to jail with the
right time. We got ten left and this is definitely
the time in the space where you want to get hot.
And so you know, we're we got the grom to night,
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you know, and this is going to be a big game.
And if we win this game, we put a little
distance between us and the Rangers, and you know, our
next target would be Seattle. Of course.
Speaker 5 (02:18:22):
Dana Brown astros GM on his weekly visit here on
Sports Talk seven ninety Dana, five years from now, what
are we going to be saying about aj blue Ball?
Speaker 8 (02:18:31):
Yeah, I think we're going to be saying that this
guy has a power arm. He could throw it up
to ninety eight. You know, you could use them out
of the pen. You could use them to start. And
he's just starting to scratch the surface of his ability.
You know, it looks weird because he's so young looking
out there, right, and you know, I look, I look
at him, and I'm like, man, you know, this guy
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has really got a chance to turn the corner. I
think he's not done physically yet, you know, from a
scouting eye, right, I think he's got a chance to
add some strength and some weight, and so that should
give him a little bit more you know, sustainability with
the velocity, and so yeah, I think I think we're
going to be looking back going, hey, this was you know,
this was a good guy that we that really extract
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came into his own in twenty twenty five. But really
now five years from they, I think he's gonna be
pretty good.
Speaker 5 (02:19:23):
Yeah, we know that the importance of the stars, the
Jordans and the l two Vas and Koreas. But this season,
like most seasons, and then in your past you've seen it,
it always takes There's always got to be somebody else
in a season that you know, with especially with all
your injuries, it has like a career type here. I
start to think about what paradis meant to you guys,
and has meant what Jake Myers has done. Hell hitting
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about one hundred points or eighty points higher than maybe
most expected. You look at your pid from blue ball
to Alexander, I mean, Jason, Alexander, you're getting it goes
on king Bullpen. I mean, there's a lot of guys
that we didn't expect that if quite frankly, have your
team in this position within striking distance the first place,
(02:20:03):
it's been amazing to see the other guy from other
people's vantage point kind of carry your team at times
when it's been desperately needed this year.
Speaker 8 (02:20:12):
Yeah, that's what it's all about. You know. You take
it from like Zach Cole most recently, yep.
Speaker 21 (02:20:17):
Coming up and doing what he's done, you know, providing
you know, that left hand bat athleticism in the outfield,
popping a few home runs, really digging deep in that
batter's box, you know, doing a really good job. You know,
these guys, this is what the team is all about, right,
That's why it's one hundred and sixty two games. It's
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going to take an entire organization and that goes from
the front office, from the scouting, from player development, you know,
from all of the teams that you have in the
minor leagues to the major league team and staff. I mean,
it takes an entire organization to be you know, as
successful as we've been, you know, in this organization and
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I my cap tool, you know, the entire organization for
continuing to put out player after player time and time again.
And so it's really exciting to see the young players
come up. You know, even Murray, the way he's been throwing,
he's been really good.
Speaker 8 (02:21:17):
You know, you talked about blue ball, you know, Alexander,
you know, eight and oh in his last few starts,
he threw the ball actually better than you know, the
line score said, you know the other day. And so
all of these guys have come up and you know,
we talked about this last week about getting guys off waivers. Ye,
it takes an entire organization to do what we've done.
(02:21:39):
And think about it, Sean, We've we've had twenty nine
guys on the IL. You know, Fangraft has us as
you know, the team that has suffered in the most
injury wise in terms of impact. You know, at one
point we had our number one, number two, number three
hitter on the IL. That's Penya, Preretis and Alvarez all
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on the IL at one time. I don't think any
team has suffered anything like that. And so these guys
have continued to show the grit. So we have faith
in this team. This is a good team and we
continue to battle.
Speaker 5 (02:22:12):
Have you ever, Dana, seen anything like it in all
your years of baseball? And you talk about resilience, but
we've seen a lot of injuries and other teams, but
the injuries and then to still be in a position
where it can be gut wrenching and says well, the
first guy's out, second guys out. There guys at twenty
eight of them and you're still you're within a half
game of first place. Have you ever been a part
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of an organization that that has been able to be
this successful with this much injury adversity?
Speaker 8 (02:22:39):
No, I mean it's very difficult to be that good.
And in order to be that good, you're going to
need some of the names that I mentioned a few
minutes ago about step how they stepped up. And so
it usually when you suffer this many injuries as an organization,
you know you're barely in it in the wildcard, like barely.
Speaker 5 (02:22:59):
And you're usually look into next year, Dana. That's usually
what happens, right, I mean, most teams that aren't as
talented as years, it's usually like, okay, we understand. It's
almost I don't want to say it's a hall pass year,
but it almost becomes that everything's gravy because you didn't
expect to be in the position.
Speaker 8 (02:23:14):
Yeah, it is gut wrenching to pay you the truth.
I mean, I watch this every day. I look at
the lineup every day, I have to watch it, look
at our il sheet every day, and it is gutriching
to watch it and to know that we have continue
to you know, battle through this and show the grit.
And you know, from Joe Spatta to all his coaching staff,
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those guys are taking what we hand them and getting
the most out of these guys. And that's when you
know you're a part of something special. And you know
we just need to continue to do it. You know,
we have ten games left. It's pedal to the metal.
It's go time, and it's let's get it done. And
I think right now we control our fate. You know
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we can. Look we play well these next ten games,
we'll will win the division and then we'll get deep
into the postseason. We'll get we'll be able to hit reset.
But this is our time. I think this is the
time that we need to get hot. He's last ten
It's sprint time. Like you're on the last leg. It's
(02:24:19):
time to sprint, all right.
Speaker 5 (02:24:21):
Dana Brown asked for GM for a few more minutes
here on his normal Wednesday visit. Dana, speaking of gut wrenching,
when you saw the big fellow limp, I mean, I
don't know if was I rolling gut wrenching or you
gotta be kidd me your initial thoughts and where are
we now with his injury?
Speaker 8 (02:24:38):
Yeah, the initial thoughts were, oh, my goodness, not again.
And you see, you know how he made an aggressive
move to go to home to score the run, and
you know, he just tells you he you know, Jordan
is a grinder and and just to make the attempt
(02:25:02):
to score there. And I think he could have just
held it up, but he looked he's all in. And
I mean, it makes it really tough to watch when
your best hitter, you know, goes down for you know,
what we think could be you know, a couple of weeks,
but we're not sure right now. We'll know, you know,
like in a couple more days. We got to give
(02:25:22):
it a couple of days to see if the soreness
can go out. You know, we got good news on
the initial MRI and the imaging that there's no fracture,
and so look, we're trying to stay optimistic about this,
but make no mistake, these guys have grinded through everything
to continue to maintain and to hold on to where
(02:25:46):
we are to try to get this division one and
get deep into proceeds.
Speaker 5 (02:25:49):
And Dan, I know that there's no you're not going
to put a day on it because it's silly and
you're not the doctor and stuff, and you look at
the images, which was good news, as you said, But
if it's two weeks, I mean, in truth, just from
fans emotional standpoint, the playoffs are really will you're hoping
to get him back for the playoffs. You can't really
count on him being in the lineup in the next
ten games, can you.
Speaker 8 (02:26:11):
Yeah, I still don't know. We're hopeful, but it takes it,
you know, when you you know, frame your ankle like that,
it takes the soreness and the swelling. It takes a
few days to at least get a feel for where
that is, how much pressure you can put on it.
And so we don't want to, you know, be too
(02:26:35):
quick to put them on the I L because if
you're nine is ready in eight days, you want them
back out there, you know, instead of doing the ten
day I L, we'll take the two days on the
back end, So we'll wait a couple more days, and
if it's really looking like it needs to be the
ten day i L, we'll do the ten day i L.
We can retro it back. And so look, we're we're
(02:27:00):
maintaining that we're going to be hopeful, but we'll make
the adjustments in like forty eight hours.
Speaker 5 (02:27:07):
Got a great veteran team, Dana. We've discussed this, the
resilience and grind to your team. But when this happens
again to Yord, because we've talked, we know how important
he is. I mean, come on, you take the best player,
best hitter out of any lineup. It's a blow to
your team. But the emotional roller coaster, not just for you,
but for your ball club and Joe and the lineup
and all of it. If we get him back, oh
(02:27:28):
my gosh, he's raking and it looks like Jordan, and
then all of a sudden it happens again. How does
your team, aside from being a good veteran group that's
seen it before, how do they continue to be resilient
through that, Because it's got to be a beatdown and
an emotional bummer, you know, like, oh my gosh, this
guy again. How do we overcome this? How do you
(02:27:48):
how do you keep your team emotionally into it?
Speaker 11 (02:27:52):
Yeah, it's a roller coaster ride of emotions. Of course,
we know the grind of baseball, and so you know,
our guys. Of course, they look at this and you
know it's it's a good punch, no doubt about it.
You know, when you have a team full of good
players and you lose one of your best players, it's
a cut punch for sure. But everybody know you got
(02:28:12):
to get up off the campus and you got to
You've gotta fight, you know, that's that's part of what
we do. And we've seen major league teams, you know,
win their division, go deep into the postseason, win the
World Series. Uh, you know, without their best player, you know.
I mean I experienced this in Atlanta when we lost
Akunya twenty twenty one. And so you can lose your
(02:28:33):
best players still win. No one wants to do it,
but it could happen, and so you've got to get
up off the campus. You got to punch back. You
got to keep fighting.
Speaker 8 (02:28:44):
You can't throw into pal that's not an option. So look,
it hurts, but we got to get up and we
gotta fight.
Speaker 5 (02:28:53):
From a GM standpoint, not not a doctor standpoint, which
I hate halving you to be every week other show,
and I know you do too. There's much better things
we'd rather talk about. Whether it's hater or parades. Let's
just start there. What are the chances we see them
in twenty twenty five, either one of them real deep
chances we get to see him.
Speaker 8 (02:29:14):
Yeah, I think we're actually talking about a Parrettis coming
back this weekend. We're still working through that. There's a
there's an outside chance that he could be back for
you know, this weekend with the you know, Seattle series
coming up. He's doing that well in Florida right now,
and so you know, we're staying optimistic there here. It's
(02:29:38):
more like if we see him and to be at
some point in the postseason, you know. And Alvarez we're
still on hold because of the swelling, you know, of
the ankle. There's this splane, but there's still a lot
of swelling. So you know, those three big ones. You know,
it's it's tough to stomach, but you gotta you've got
(02:30:00):
to stay in the grind and the grid and you
got to show that, look, you're still can you still
can win games, which we've done a lot without Alvarez
this year, you know, and you see you see that
the Brave use seven out of eight and save opportunities.
So look, he can close out games and you know
Parretis getting him back, that would be pretty special because
(02:30:23):
you know he's going to see a lot of pitches
and set the lineup and set the tone of the lineup.
Speaker 11 (02:30:28):
As I mentioned, you.
Speaker 8 (02:30:29):
Know when we went down uh with Pinya, Parrettis and
our resk all at the same time, that was a
difficult space for us to be in. This year, we've
we grinded through that and right now we just have
to continue to show the grit.
Speaker 5 (02:30:45):
Dane. I'll leave you on this. If Prade is, if
he gets back in this lineup this weekend, is he
gonna with that quick twitch movement?
Speaker 8 (02:30:52):
Are you?
Speaker 5 (02:30:53):
Do you see him playing the position or dhing for
you guys.
Speaker 8 (02:30:58):
Yeah, initially it will be the you know, I can't
say it's gonna be DH the whole time, but initially
it would be DH. I think that the idea would be,
let them DH give him a day off. Let them
DH give him a day off, like you gradually bring
him back into this, you know, because you don't want
you don't want to get him back and try to
(02:31:20):
play him every day, you know, and he's coming back
a lot quicker, you know, than you had expected, so
you want to really gradually bring him back into this,
but it'll probably start off at the DH position for sure.
Speaker 5 (02:31:33):
All Right, I lied, I got to leave you with this.
I'm a glutton for punishment. I like these competitive races
where you guys got to do what you do, and
that's because I like the experience the ASTs have brought
to They seem to know how to win under a
half game. We know what it looks like. I know
that's not what you want to hear. A fifteen game
lead would be great, but there's got to be a
part of you data because you're competitive and you've played it,
(02:31:54):
and you scouted that you kind of love this, don't you.
Isn't there a party that says, man, this is the
way it's supposed to be coming too the last week
of the season. Ten games. Although it's not good for
the emotional part of it, but I got to believe
the competitor and you loves this stuff and trust your
team more in this than you would the casual fifteen
game lead with ten games to go.
Speaker 8 (02:32:14):
Yeah, listen, I gotta be honest. Just to be playing
competitive games in September, it is pretty special. It's great
for the organization. It's outstanding for our sport. I love
a good competitive game. Yes, what pressure took me five? Right,
But it really adds, It really adds the love of
(02:32:36):
the game and that rush that you get. You know,
last night we're up six to one, you hate going
through the team's coming back. You know, it's the game
is getting more pressurized, and all of a sudden you
win that game and the ninth with you know, with
the way we ended the game and closing it out.
(02:32:57):
You know, there's this roar that comes from the Yeah,
we love all of that. Well, we like it to
be a lot less stressful.
Speaker 22 (02:33:04):
Absolutely, but the edge that it adds to the game
for the people who love the game, even on both
sides and your component, your opponent, Yes, it adds a lot.
Speaker 8 (02:33:17):
But can I do it a little less stress absolutely?
Speaker 5 (02:33:21):
Yeah. Well, you guys are stomping the grapes now, but
when it's all over and you put a ring on
your finger, it'll be kind of nice to drink the
wine too. That's when you look back and say, man,
I love that grind. The grind you're speaking out you're in,
So stomp the grapes now and drink the wine later, right,
my man?
Speaker 8 (02:33:36):
Absolutely let's get this thing going. We got ten left
and I think there's a hot streak coming. I feel it,
I really feel it. So let's go after the Well.
Speaker 5 (02:33:45):
They're started on the right foot in these two games
and look forward to another and won't be easy against
the ground, but that's the way you like it. Data,
great stuff. We'll look forward to talking to you next
week and hopefully that leads extended. Look forward to it. Man,
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (02:33:56):
Absolutely fired up about our conversation next Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (02:33:59):
Can't wait. There you go. That's dand Brown will come
back and discuss on our way out on a Wednesday.
Here in Sports Talk seven to.
Speaker 3 (02:34:05):
Ninety and were the Sewn Salsbury Show continued.
Speaker 7 (02:34:11):
Mentioned that they're taking a couple of days off, Like,
don't even mention to him what you're doing. I mean,
because if you say that, then he's, oh, oh, well,
look at all the time off.
Speaker 5 (02:34:19):
Sean gets. It's all the time off, Seawan gets. It'll
take me six years to catch up to the time
off they've taken. Yeah, exactly, okay, exactly Ross grinds Ross
shows up. No, I'm not talking about Ross and him.
I'm talking about that they meaning anybody who takes vacation exactly.
I finally took my two weeks vacation for the first
time in my eight years here and Matt, they call
it personal time for a reason. They want to keep
(02:34:39):
your ass. I'm actually going. So I got a son
getting married this weekend. See there you go time off
to see his kid, Matt, And that's got time off,
use them and getting them back. Yeah, hey, you get
I finally discovered that this year, Sean, after all this
I took vacation, you wouldn't see me for six months
because I got enough bills up. We don't get to
carried over and they give you that time.
Speaker 8 (02:34:57):
I got to get it.
Speaker 5 (02:34:58):
I guess what I'm going to use that time? You go.
Speaker 7 (02:35:00):
Good stuff from Dana Brown, good stuff from Sean Tripoli,
Emmanuel Elmore. A lot of love for that guy today.
Well deserved. It is very very much warranted. I'm Dan Matthews.
As I mentioned Ross the Matt Thomas Show. With Ross
coming up right now. We will talk to you in
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