Astros Take Series Opener From Marlins, Texans Training Camp Rolls On, Texans O-Line Room Resolution

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salisbury. Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewan Salisbury, Salisbury to usc Trup's longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthewscus. This is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Share me at second back.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Contra's first jitch is occur and that's hit hard into
the right field corner of base hit and it slams
off of the wall.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Payne is going to score.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
Easily, sliding into second. Sanchez, he's got himself a double
at Loan Depot Park. Sanchez comes home and delivers the RBI.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
A Contra out of the stretch. Here's the pitch and
that's a.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Liner left field, and that is gonna get down for
a base hit. Sanchez will score and it's a two
to nothing ballgame, RBI single for Carlos Correa. Here's the
one too, and that's pulled and that's a fair ball
in the left field. She goes, Walker will score easily.
Carrottini into third base. They're gonna send him. Here comes

(01:06):
Carrotini and he's gonna make it. And it's a two
run double for Yiner Diaz and it's five.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Nothing oh one, and that's a ground ball fielded by
Wagaman steps on first for one, throws down the second
and they don't tag the runner.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
What does he think it?

Speaker 5 (01:24):
Xavier Edwards must have thought it was a force play. Actually,
that's Lopez, the shortstop who came over. He must have
thought it was a force play. He stepped on second,
Wagiman had stepped on first, so that meant Lopez had
attacked Caratini and he had plenty of time to do so,
but didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
And that's line down the left field line hooking and
it's a fair ball, just inside the chalk and it
bounds down into the corner. Carrotini scores, Dubon trades places
with them at second and RBI double for the pin
chitter Mauricio Dubon seven to two, Astros another three to two,
twinging you and a miss Wagon strikes out on.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
The splitter, and that is the ball game.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Astros into three game skin takeing Game one in Miami,
winning eight to two.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Robert Ford, not Robert Hord, Robert Ford with the very.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Happy final big shot, Bob Robert or last night he
did not.

Speaker 6 (02:22):
It was it was our normal crew of Robert Ford
and Steve Sparks. But you just heard Robert Ford give
you the very happy final last night from there in
South Florida as the Astros getting back on the winning track.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
And with that we say away we go.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
In good morning here on the Sean Salisbury Show and
Sean I threw it out on Twitter last night and
it's as simple as can be.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
You put the ball in play, well, good things can happen.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
And the Astros in that fourth inning last night, for
the five runs that they erupted for, well, when a
novel concept they put the ball in play they did.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
That was big and it was never in question after that,
and that was a it looked a similar to the
day before the other way. Yeah, it's just a shoe
was on the other foot, exactly right. Big inning, and
sometimes those are hard to overcome, and usually they are,
especially when they're that big. And then you know, they
got help from a lot of people last night to play.
Even though ball wasn't flying out of the park, they

(03:15):
were getting a lot of extra bates hit clutch hits
at the right time, you know. From Correa Karattini got
into the act, Christian Walker got into the act, Jeremy
Paine a couple times in the act, they Diaz, that's
exactly right, loaded up and did a great job. And
I'm gonna tell you phenomenal performance of scoreless for what's six.

(03:38):
I thought the pitching performance last night, considering think about
the pressure they're and knowing people are coming back wondering
is this my gig or isn't it? Where am I
going to be in this rotation and you're coming off
And they needed it off a three game losing streak
in Boston. They needed to have that performance in a
biginning like that allows you to settle in. But they
got everything done they needed to get done last night,

(03:59):
including to win, and I uh, I thought, I thought
they did a hell of a job. I know the
back to back home runs for pinchhit home runs off King,
but that's at the point when you have the lead
that that validates, even though you never like to see it,
that validates what we're talking about it give yourself some
latitude and leeway. Can't be always being two to one,
three to one, three, two games where one swing of

(04:20):
the bat one way or the other cause a problem.
Two solo home runs meant what last night nothing exactly
right could have been might as well have been two singles. Now,
ego and pitching if you're the pitcher. You don't like
it as good as he's been this year, King has,
but they it didn't. It wasn't like a two to
one game where that's where you had the leeways. Okay,
they get away with a couple of them, a couple

(04:41):
you know, pinchhit home runs, no harm, no foul, all good,
take care of your business. But it all starts with
scoring quickly and jumping on them and then forcing them
to chase, and then giving yourself the latitude that if
you miss a pitcher two and they you still win
this game. So there you have it. It looked nice,

(05:01):
Like I said, it was just I don't want to
say mirror image, but it looks early similar to what
the what the Astros had to go through with Fromber
and they couldn't get out of that, They couldn't overcome
their poor inning defensively and you know as a pitcher,
and they never could catch back up and never got
anything done. Same thing happened last night.

Speaker 6 (05:18):
Get back into the offense in a second. But I
mean you touched on him a little bit, Jason Alexander.
Where I think last night we would have been fine
with get to the fifth inning and then you let
the bullpen go to work from there. But when you
find out what today's game is a bullpen game, his
six innings is even more crucial for you to be
able to get last night, and he delivered.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, and I don't. And you're right that the attitude
of of get me to five. But I'd like to
switch my thought process and I think he'd I screw
get into five there, get to six those damn weighted balls. Yeah, yeah,
get the six innings. Yeah. Our guy Rob Dibble would say,

(06:02):
get get to six innings. Make it even less pressure.
And today with this, like I said, yesterday kind of
figured out what they didn't have. They had to announced
a starter for today. You've kind of got an idea
what they were going to do. But that's how you
approach this thing where you don't as a pitcher, don't
say like, yeah, I got to five and a third
so that's enough. I mean it start and you know

(06:26):
we sit here and say, okay, baseball's gotten to the
point it feels like that if you get to five
and two thirds innings, we're starting to put you on
our shoulders and hero worship. Right, But you go in
there and you take care of that. You go six
scoreless and you take care of your business. Not only
are you saving a bullpen, you're also creating confidence among
the guys. And don't think that doesn't matter. I'm just
telling those guys behind you, they want to know what's

(06:46):
going on with you? Would would how good are you
under pressure? How good are you? In quite frankly, everybody
passed past Hunter Brown and fromber on the mound in truth?
Are they not trying to? Uh? Aren't they battling for
their starting pitching job right now? Easily? Yeah, you're bad
no matter who you are. It doesn't matter who it

(07:07):
is Jason Alexander, doesn't matter if it's Gordon. And if
everybody was healthy and ready to go, those the front two, yes,
the other three and when the Colors is out there
all battling for a shot to be three, four and five. Yeah,
and he posted his score, But also what that does?
It tells the guys behind you that he's that the
guy's throwing good pitches. Get people out working fast and

(07:30):
getting things done, man, And it does matter. And then
a bullpen said, they're saying, oh, they just saved us
twenty five pitches or whatever it could be right getting
an extra ining. So the thought process of you know what, no, no,
no five is not enough. Let me get you guys
to six and it'll all be scorless and so the
guys behind you, and that that confidence starts to build
to where if you have a six man rotation, or

(07:51):
if you have a guy that has to spot start
for you, you're not sitting there saying Jason Alexanderson over
his head, he shouldn't look, and I know who it is,
but they've been playing pretty good baseball. He sure as
hell wasn't in over his head last night, and was
a hell of a performance. And everybody, like when we
mentioned Sanchez got himself. He he what was a double?
He had hit his double? Two? They took care of it.

(08:12):
Dubon took care of his. I mean, it was an
impressive performance up and down the lineup and uh and
chasing Alexander Rodoby. When I say, proud, stand up and
give a thumbs up. That was important last night. No,
it absolutely was. And he's able to give you that.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
I mean, you touched on King giving up those couple
of home runs and then also a double on that inning.
But even after the home runs came back struck out.
The next two guys like almost kind of like all
right enough, like what's it Hans Kruber and die hard
enough jokes. Oh yeah, that was That was Brian King
in that inning of just being like, all right, hey,
you got all three times.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
It ain't gonna happen anymore, right, And you know what
if that means that was your performance. It doesn't happen
to you very often this year and it hasn't once again.
Six runs gives you the latitude you go up there,
you have two solo home runs when it's six to nothing.
You can live with that and I don't have to
rush to the bullpen to think, oh my gosh, and

(09:05):
then you get it done and then you fight back.
Kind of shows his resilience, which has been typical of
that bullpen what they've been about this year. But make
no mistake given them that big inning allows Jason Alexander
to pitch a little freer, even though he was pitching
really well anyway. But that just gives you a little
attitude and I don't think we can overestimate how important

(09:26):
that is. And it was it was a really good
especially coming when they needed it, because you don't know
what's going to happen in a bullpen game like this today.
You don't. You have no idea. And it was because
if I'm not mistaken that I mean, I don't think
the Mariners played last night, But Rangers took care of
their Yes, they did. And in the American League, you know,
you know that it's that there's five six teams that

(09:48):
can win it, and you're trying to post your score
and win this division. Last night was huge, so they
what they stayed. The Rangers stayed the course. And now
you're three games up on Seattle with a half last
night three three on Seattle, four and a half on
the Rangers. And Josh Young and I was talking with
Alex Middleton, who's a big Yankee fan with the Rod

(10:09):
Ryan Show, and I was just, you know, kind of condolences, sorry,
your guys lost, all that kind of stuff. But then
I told him, I said, hey, man, seeing it in
twenty twenty one, when Jock Peterson does what he did
last night, that's usually bad news for opponents because the
guy's batting like one twenty five this year, but he
hits those home runs, he gets fired up like that.
They usually coming bunches and all they do. And he's

(10:32):
he's he's the most desirable one twenty five hitter in baseball.
You know what I'm saying, because average just just all
that seems like every year somebody latches onto him and
he'll hit you five home runs in about a two
weeks span, and three of them will be will be
important parts of the game. And the guys just got

(10:54):
a knack for hitting the ball out of the park
when things aren't go well. It's the modern day Jim
Lairets is what he That's exactly what he is. Yeah,
and then anybody who doesn't know what that is to
take a look at his numbers like postseason or in
clutch Moore post career. Don't look up post career. No,
And you know what, Jim's not a bad guy. I've
interviewed him and spent time. Yeah, has had his troubles,
but you know he was a he was Let's put

(11:18):
it this way. I try to judge the book by
the way they you know, not a bad guy. That's
neither here nor The bottom line is you're exactly what
Labits came through big and big moments for a guy
who's quite frankly, you know, Jack Peterson's had a better career.
Jack Peterson, He's not gonna hit three hundred, but I
can tell you what. You give him one of those
low fastballs on the inner part and he's in that

(11:39):
mode where it looks like a softball, that ball will
leave the ballpark. He's got He's got a little Kyle
Schwarber in him too, you know what I'm saying, similar,
a little thicker, and he's not going to hit as
many or his be as in the lineup every day,
but there's this if you miss and they're going good,
they'll make you pay. And he's just a good body
to have and he probably drives a it's nuts. And

(12:01):
plus he's got some heal in him where he that
that attitude makes you want to you know, punchable. Right,
Yet there's on your team, like, go get us a
couple of two run jobs in, you know in a
game that we need so that this division is going
to be fun to watch man the next in the
next forty games. The punch ability.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
He caught up promo in his opening press conference with
the Rangers about the division runs through us now or
something to that effect of the Astros time is coming gone.
So yeah, yeah, he's that guy.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, and and and wears it and and quite frankly
embraces it. And whether you like it or not, I can.
I can hang with you who embraces it, who knows
what his role is and knows who he is, and
it has no fear and won't back off it. Now,
whether they can extend and do their thing, I would

(12:50):
beg to differ that the Astros time is over because
they're about to get healthy and you're gonna have to well,
he's gonna have to post up now when you say it,
here we go. Now, if you're on the other side
and you don't buy into what he's saying, I'd be
careful because that team can pitch too. He's just one
of those guys. You're like, this dude's driving me nuts.
Yet he'll get that clutch two out, two run job

(13:11):
that it wins a game for it and you're like, oh, him,
it's happened a lot of times in his career. And
it has.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
And you also need to remember that in high school,
the football team in Palo Alto, California, your receivers him
and DeVante Adams.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Well, I guess that there were what was he a
slow slot white guy? He was actually actually remember when
he came into the league. If you remember, Jack Peterson
was like a gold glove caliber center fielder. Yeah, and
I can remember, well, I think it was Vin Scully.
Then he got to know the trainers. Yeah, yeah, Vin
Scully talking about how good defensively Jack Peterson was. Most

(13:49):
people don't look at him like that, but he was there.
Jack Peterson was their center field of the future, had
a damn good glove and then he you know, he
didn't Taco Tuesday a few times. As his career's gone on.
He's got a little jolly, but the bat speed's still
there now and if you miss, he makes you pay.
But yeah, he was. People don't realize that that guy

(14:11):
was when he first Like all the Dodgers seem to
always have another rookie, right, another guy, another guy, and
Jock Peterson was one of them. And Vince Gully was
talking on broadcast on how good defensively he was. This
was like first or second year, and then you know,
Jock has played all three outfield positions and moved around
and DHD and done it all. But he's been I
think He's even played some first base too, if I'm
not mistaken, so yes, But he is now at that

(14:33):
point in his career where he may play on five
teams in five more years, but at some point in
time he seems to deliver for them. But he will
post it at the plate but also with his mouth
at times, and this will be fun to see and
here he really will. I like this. I like I
like the challenge throwing out there.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
For those that don't know the trainer's table reference, it's
not medically, it's what they call the dining hall for
athletes in college.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, you're going to the trainer's table. It's like when
somebody says freshman forty or freshman twenty, when you go
there and you say, man, she came here, Yeah, and
I saw it, Jock, Jock, you want to lay off
the soft serve machine. Butdy, yeah, we're going there. And
she'd come in from Palace Verdic High School. You like
or chicken tenders. I don't think you need those, buddy. Yeah,
she was like a smoke show, right. Yeah, I didn't

(15:15):
even good guys too, But you're like, damn. And then
like the spring of her freshman year, you're like, oh,
what happened to me? Springing your freshman year? You're like,
that's a lot of beer and pizza. Yeah, yeah, you
better get We've all been there at some point in
our life. And just at freshman twenty or thirty, it's
like you get a little too comfortable in your study.
It's like, I can't get caught up in this, and
then this spring by the summertime back at it normal.

(15:35):
But yeah, that's the same thing you're talking about, push
yourself away, mixing a salad type of thing that you're saying, yeah,
now that was that was mine too.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
For me, it was bud heavy and uh you know
the orange and white place that serves burgers.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
That was that was my problem. What yeah, a bird said,
there you go. Yeah, that's yeah. I'll never forget.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
My parents showed up to the first fall in her
squad and they were like, hey, yeah, we can't see
you anywhere. This is before you know, cell phones were
with us at all times. And afterwards, you know, I
get on my phone and I'm like, huh. I was
like I was right here, and sure enough, there you go.
That's how much weight I'd put on.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Happens brother, Then you get back and say, you know
that ain't happen in myself sor what? Fortunately with us,
with Tray and Davids football, you had no choice could
You'd have been reminded about it every frigging day, right,
What you got a problem? I'm all in on real quick.
It's just you hit me with when school and the
rest of it. Cell phones. I love the fact that
no cell phones in class. I saw that yesterday. Freaking

(16:30):
love it. That's what we are. I friggin love it.
Keep it away. You're not allowed. You can't do it there,
can't bring it to class, can't no, no, uh what
the eye watch? Which that cell phone? Watch to watch? Yeah?
They none of it. And I'd like that, and and
I do. I think that should be, that should be
all over the place. But there are certain states that
are not going to allow that because they want to control.

(16:52):
But I friggin love keep your cel phone. No, you're
here for a reason, and I friggin love it. So
sixteen seventeen years old, you don't need to be on
it all, nor are you at twelve or at nine
or at ten. Right, good good on them. Bring that back.
I freaking absolutely love it. Yeah, I think that's a
good thing. The old thing that I told you. A
buddy of mine said that whenever like kids would smarten

(17:12):
up to them. You know, you've only been fifteen. I've
been fifteen and I've been thirty. There you go, so
I know them both so and then you go fifteen
thirty forty five. Uh huh, yeah, don't le lot of
every fifteen years. There you go.

Speaker 6 (17:24):
Don't remind me, man, don't rhyme anyway. It is a
Sean Salisbury show here on a Monday. You want to
jump in. Let's talk some astros. Let's talk some happy astros.
Seven one three two want two five seven ninety against
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about it here. It is a Sean Salisbury show on

(17:44):
a Tuesday. Sports Talks seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Buckle up. The Sean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
It's gonna be a hello.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
And it was bumper to bumper all the way, and
then pretty much I hit the Budweiser distributorship right there
in Baytown is when it opened up.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
And I need somebody sorry to play, you know, somebody,
somebody like you. He's got a lot of good cuts,
does yeah, and he can guy like that in concert
live is good because he's got that that hoarse, scratchy
voice that comes seems to come across when you're acoustics wise.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
And Sean, let me tell you, he doesn't waste time.
There's no opener, he says, seven o'clock. He's hitting the
stage right at seven o'clock. We were out of there
at nine.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
I love it. It was. It was awesome Brian Adams fan.
But the band gave it to him right right down
right in the heart last night. I didn't expect that.
I mean, Alexander's been solid. I didn't expect him to
roll in there and give you six six scoreless and
do it. But yeah, little Brian Adams, a little Jason
Alexander do this.

Speaker 7 (18:50):
Man.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
The only problem I have is the ASTROS official Twitter
account's say, the only problem you have with Brian Adams. No,
I don't have any problems with Brian Adams. But the
only problem I have is being huge Seinfeld fan and
the guy who sits in his chair after me, Matt
Thomas is our boss.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Brian, Brian Erickson is too.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
Is that their caption on the the tweet for Player
of the Game for Jason Alexander was no soup for you, And.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I was like, ah, that's not really a George line.
I know it isn't. No, it's not. It was the
soup Nazi.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
So the follow up is that, you know, I almost
wanted to tell somebody over there to say, hey, a
better one would have been he got his bread and
it wasn't three dollars, because remember George was the one
who was like, hey, I didn't get any bread, and
the soup Nazi goes, you want bread two dollars. He's like,
but then last person just going you want bread three dollars?

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Oh see, because I don't. And then he got his
soup taken from him. Oh so he had that. That's
where the line comes from. I gotta come clean, man.
I as much I love to laugh, love comedy and
into movies and shows, I probably have not seen this
is the true, which is weird. Don't say it. I
haven't seen episodes of Seinfeld Trip. You're co hosting the

(20:02):
rest of the show. I'm out of here, I honestly,
and I don't wear it's a badge of honor. I
can't when you're saying this, I have zero idea. I'm
sure people listening do, but I have zero idea about
the soup Nazi thing I have. I mean, I know
the the the personalities of the different people from the
show from the time, I can kind of get into
what dryfists and I mean getting a kind of an

(20:25):
idea Jerry and who they are and what their voices
are and how they went about known as Newton. There
you go. But I yeah, you mean, geez, would you
say Newton Newman? I have never I have I can't
honestly sit here and say I sat through is it
a thirty or sixty minutes show? Thirty thirty? Said typical sitcom? Right, Yeah,
I've never When it comes to time, I can't remember.

(20:48):
I don't even know if i've I mean, I've seen
bits and pieces of one hundred of them, you know,
like when you're flipping the channels, yam. I can't ever
remember seeing a matter of fact, ten, I think I'm
stretching at by about five or from start to finish
out there and said, I'm gonna watch Seinfeld from beginning
to end, and I know it's one of the great
comedies of all time. I can't. I can't honestly tell
you that I have any idea about any of it

(21:10):
when people refer to them, like, oh remember that, I don't.
I have no idea.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
It's one of my goots that if I see, if
I see that it's on comedy, sensual or any of
the chick You've.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Seen them all, you've binge watched them all. You know
from all of them, but most of them nice, right,
And I can tell you this until they ran on reruns,
when the series was basically over, I hadn't seen Friends
three times in my life. See like, now I've seen it.
Sometimes you just sit around watching it. This is pretty funny.
It was a good. It's different. But you start watching

(21:40):
and say, okay, I can watch three or four of them.
But while it was on, I can't tell you I
saw three of them. I'd cheers and mash anything. But
I can't tell you anything about Seinfeld other than knowing
small part of it and Friends post stuff when the reairs.
Other than that, I was more of an n C.

(22:00):
I S and Criminal Minds. Yeah, great show. Those shows
were more I have not but I'm going to it's
really good. Yeah, So that's more for me, but I can't.
I don't know anything about I'm one of the guys
I love. Yeah, he's great. I interviewed, we interviewed him,
have interviewed him before. He was a big Chicago sports fan. Yeah,

(22:21):
and he's a huge sports fan period. And he sounds
just like he does in such a gentleman in an interview.
You know, but I've always been a fan. I think Sean.
I always remember watching you, you know, when you used
to play against the bigs. He may have said, he
may have mentioned about playing time right, about playing but
he was just such a kind gentleman. And he you know,
he's listed the test time but he said a hell

(22:43):
of a run. But he was perfect on that show.
So and I liked Mandy Patinkin too. I thought he
was phenomenally How you going to replace him on Montana?
Was pretty good? He was.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
He was really good on that show. And I feel
like that that gave him the leverage to run on
Homeland because he was so good.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
He was so believable to like Pin Yeah, as like
a a CIA like no doubt, you know, station chief
type of guy, like he was so believable, Oh, no doubt,
kind but bruder yeah, you know, he really didn't open
up much to even his own team. Very protective of
his squad, but also of him in Criminal Minds obviously
in Patentkin in Home. You're exactly right he was. I

(23:24):
think he is critically acclaimed guy. He's extremely gifted and
with the beard and the glasses, it looks almost exactly
like my soon to be father in law. Oh really yeah, yeah,
he was a big big John looks a lot like yeah,
talented Saul on Homeland. There you go, that's exactly right. Homeland,
I think underrated show. Maybe it was properly righted, but

(23:45):
I like it. But I can't ever say Seinfeld. I never.
I don't think I've watched five episodes in my life.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
Did we got to work on that because it's it
still stands to this day, like there's still things that happened.
I mean, god, what is it thirty years ago now?
On that show that like you watch it and you're.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Like that that still plays today? The application still works. Yeah,
I probably have to go and watch like a full
season to be like, okay, I'm in the mood now,
I'm in the rhythm. I just never, I never. I've
never been a Jerry. I like Seinfeld, but I've never
been a his. If you said Sean picked fifteen comedians

(24:21):
that you want to just go watch, I'm sure he's
great live in personally he's doing standing up, yeah, but
I just he wouldn't be one that I would have
laned on, but he listen to everybody else. But I
feel like in the sitcom, how it was written was
see I was a two and a half men guy.
I thought it was the best written comedy on the planet.
So good. I thought it was phenomenal. And the Charlie
Sheen version because Charlie didn't have to act, the Ashton

(24:42):
Cocher version sucks. That's well, I got dues for you, brother.
But Ashton Kocher became Charlie Sheen and that it was
friggin' awful. Yeah, it was awful because Charlie was playing himself.
Yes see, that's what I'm saying. He had to act.
He didn't come in, wear your little bullying shirt, your
cargo short to whatever, and just act like a do

(25:03):
what you do. And he was great, and they did
the camaraderie and even what's the maid's name who's passed
away since name? And I think Burdo's character was phenomena.
Oh yeah, you know, and Charlie Bang and everything in
site the brothers like, oh gosh, but yeah, as much
as Ashton Kocher may have his strengths, it wasn't that show. No,
it was not. Yeah, it was that one. So I

(25:24):
watched that. But I've never Seinfeld's comedy. I guess I
got to dig into it because even if he came
to Town Live right now, I'd say, eh, I can
do without. I know how gifted he is, and I
probably should give him more of a chance. It just
his comedy never moved me, or the show just never.
I gotta go watch it, even when everybody was talking
about it. It's a trip, man, Now, what a show.
And it's funny too.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
If people all, you know, love to see Seinfeld come
back in my response to them as well, it did
curby your enthusiasm, it was it was an extension of Seinfeld.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Now that's the that's the brains behind the whole Larry, Yes,
But I mean it was the same situations though, that
he's running into. It's like just sub out Larry for
or just sub about Jerry for Larry David, who was
the emphasis for George Costanzi right, and if you are,
if real quick, if you are Seinfeld with all the residual,
all the stuff, because I'm sure he owns part of
the right like like Mark Harmon does, Fan cis uh huh,

(26:14):
I would. When you're printing that kind of money with
the tune of one hundred a million a year, whatever
it is, at least right, you get to pick and
choose your schedule. Sure you don't have to go worry
about doing fifteen straight years of great comedy unless your
ego gets the way. He's like, I can pick a
choose what I want. I don't need it. I got
he's printing money. He's Paully and Goodfellas. PAULI didn't move
for nobody because he didn't have to move for nobody exactly.

(26:35):
And Seinfeld's in the position where it's like, I don't
need to check my ATM. I know it grows every day,
no doubt about it. Now, that's it's a good position
to be in no doubt about it.

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Speaker 6 (28:49):
You know, Jonas Knox and Brady Quinn and all of
them are and uh, it was funny they brought that up.
And Brady Quinn, who obviously knows what life is like like,
you know, JJ McCarthy said, yeah, he should play. He's
a rookie, like he didn't play at all last year.
So he needs to get out there and play.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
No, there is absolutely zero doubt about he is one
hundred percent correct. Now, if you say, Sean should Aaron
Rodgers play he's in a new system, the answer is
absolutely not. He'll get all that down. And what am
I going to learn from Aaron Rodgers on seven snaps
and where five of them are handoffs and tour slants?
I don't need that. And he's been in the league

(29:26):
in systems long enough. Aaron Rodgers will be fine, right.
I don't need Jaden Daniels playing in the repriason or
see now, listen, Daniels and Stroud will get a little
bit with the first like in game two or Game one,
they'll play a little bit and you know, run the ball,
get the ball out quick, nothing that puts them in
harm's way, and get just for a little feel good
rhythm and get out. But JJ McCarthy now hasn't thrown

(29:51):
a football in a game since a National championship game,
so which they won, and you know it was a
fast riser of that off. He's in the draft obviously,
and Minnesota loves him. Thinking about you want to talk
about somebody who loves a quarterback that has not yourinated
to drop in the league. New Listen, he's a winner.
I'm a McCarthy fan. I am. I don't know if
he's ready yet. I don't think any of us do.

(30:13):
Kevin O'Connell thinks he is, because you'd think what they
pass on trying to get Rogers, letting Daniel Jones go
to compete and probably win the job in Indianapolis to
having a chance to jump into the fray elsewhere Donald
they could have brought back. That's where I was going.
Donald was a pro bowler and had his best season.
Donald looked like the guy that we thought, look like,

(30:36):
that's exactly right. And then he goes and gets his
thirty five million from somewhere else, and in truth, I
know we would see I mean went he just left
there and went somewhere else, meaning to Seattle. But think
about his route where he's like, you know, the Jets
or Carolina backup in San Francisco, and then he finally
got a chance and maximized it. Put it this way,

(30:58):
if Donald plays well against the detroit in the last
game of the season or in the first playoff game,
their starting quarterback is Sam Darnold. Because you can't get
rid of a four thousand yard guy who threw thirty
plus touchdowns and was in the MVP talk most of
the year. But it goes to show you how much
you let a pro bowler who played Reclamation Project, who

(31:18):
they was out of his mind last year and JJ
McCarthy has not taken a snap and was in street
clothes all year long, and they cleaned house and said
we're going with him no matter what. And they could
have drafted a guy if they want. There's so many
things they could have done they didn't. And so here's
a guy, So Brady Quinn, anybody, they're exactly right, McCarthy

(31:40):
needs work. Now, if you're Kevin O'Connell, you're probably gonna
stick away. You may mix one in, you're gonna stick
away from putting him on the edge and getting him
in harm's way. Also because coming off an injury, you've
committed so much to him. I mean you literally said,
don't care who's out there, that's our guy. And he's
never taken a snap. So they obviously loved his leadership
in the way he won. And I actually think O'Connell's

(32:02):
gonna prove the not O'Connell but McCarthy's gonna prove at
the next level. It's kind of I compare it, and
I don't know if he's gonna have same success. And
I understand when I'm saying this when you watch Jordan
or Anton Jamison or any of those guys at North
Carolina Dean Smith in the Transformation. Michael Jordan didn't everage
twenty four points a game in college. You know, he
and Vince they were like in the seventeen eight I

(32:23):
don't even know what Michael avervid I guarantee wasn't twenty
eight or twenty nine a game like a Steph Kurt,
you know what I'm saying. And they might have even
been in the upper teens, but played slow, slowed it down,
and so we never saw their scoring ability. And then
when they get to the league, Jamison's a twenty point
per game score. We saw Vince Carter erupt offensively instead
of just being a high rise where we saw him score.
And then Jordan well became he is the best player

(32:44):
we've ever seen. What I'm saying is that Michigan, you
don't really know how good of passers they are because
they throw go sixteen to eighteen sixteen to nineteen. We
don't see in college. Now, if you're starting quarterback in college,
you blink and throw thirty five times. Right, that's not Michigan.
That's not the way hardball played it. So I actually
think there's still a big band with for him passing wise,
because he's accurate and he's athletic as hell, and now

(33:07):
he's going to get a chance. But think about that.
You got a team that was on the verge of
being a Super Bowl possibility and challenging for home field
advanced throughout. If they beat Detroit, they are home field
advanced throughout the playoffs, right, I mean they're staying in
their building and they obviously we saw the result. But
so McCarthy, I'm with you, seeing now McCarthy needs to play.

(33:30):
Let me say, three and a half quarters in this preseason.
I understand the first one, get him a little bit
of go get him out, second one a half, maybe
even a half, and get him coming out in the
third quarter to see what it's like to take that
time off, come back out, one drive, be successful, get
him out, and maybe maybe one drive of success where
you go six to six on a drive, short passing

(33:50):
it and get out throughout this preseason. He does need it.
But Steve J. Stroud here is c J. Stroud plays
four quarters in this preseason. I will lose my ever
loving mind. Okay, so I used to be different, but
certain guys need it. Bow Knicks doesn't need much. He's
kind of in the Jade Daniels And you look at
Jaden Daniels and bow Nicks. Did you see bo Nix's
numbers compared to Daniels. We don't get bow Nicks enough credit.

(34:12):
And I think Jade and Daniels is special. Bo Nix's
numbers were better. Sean Payton, Man, I'm just telling you
that they've got something going on there. Brother, I'm just
telling you and that AFC West is the best fourth team.
The best worst team in the division in the league
is the Raiders. I'm just telling you they are. They've

(34:33):
upgraded with Gino Smith. You go around the league. Are
they better than Tennessee? Yeah? Are they better than the Giants? Yeah?
They better than whoever. The fourth place team in the
AFC East is jet Yeah. You start to go around
the league, They've got something going on there. So this
is the bo Nixes and Jayden and Daniels. They'll get
a little work, But yes, McCarthy needs a lot of
work because he is, in essence still a rookie because

(34:53):
he didn't get one run at all last year.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
Sean Payton did one of the most remarkable things I
think I've ever seen an offensive play caller do. He's
switched mid career his offensive scheme to be able to
fit his quarterback. Drew Brees used to be able to
throw the football. Then it got to a point where
this guy can't throw it as well. He couldn't throw
at forty yards a certain point at the end of
his career. But here's mark Ingram and here's Alvin Kamara,
and that's going to be our offense.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
And think about this shift. Now he's got a guy
that Drew Brees was never mobile. Drew Brees is a
true pocket, accurate passer. Now he's got bow knicks that
can kill you. He's got he's accurate, can kill you
with his feet. Sean Payton, that's a sign of a
good coach. Yep. He doesn't make you adjust to all
the things he does. He adjusted his personal That's exactly right.
There's what twelve to fifteen coaches as opposed to fifty

(35:39):
sixty players. If you've got a guy who's different, you
better be good enough coach to make those adjustments you
ask your players to make. Normally, bow Knicks has done it.
We've got some helified young quarterbacks in this league, and
JJ McCarthy made it being one he does need preseason
work normally, I wouldn't say that for a starting quarterback
in the league.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
One of those hellified good quarterbacks in this town. And
he's part of that group at the Greenbrier right now
working out with the Texans. But the Astros still the
topic of conversation too. Here and for the rest of
the show, you want to get in someone three two
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Speaker 1 (36:19):
You're back. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Get back at it.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
What a way to keep here for you, dude, Right there,
eleven am, big noon kickoff. I am here and I
love the fact that it's a day game. I don't
have to wait around all dad, I do it. Kicks
off your day. I friggin love it. And they're gonna
get after it. And plus method to it is if
you're arch manning, you have to sit around all day.
Now you wake up out of bed, get your pregame meal,
go through it, and let's go play. So I'm into

(36:46):
that and back to the East, OK, creatus real quick,
because I know you've been teasing the astros. I love
what he's doing. Now we're gonna hate it if they
if it lingers and he doesn't get back in and
we say now, yes, if all of a sudden he
wakes up up in January and has surgery, then it's
going to bother you because now you're saying I'll see
in July. So I do you know what it tells me?

(37:08):
The dude doesn't want to leave his glove on the
mount or somebody else come out pick it up on you.

Speaker 6 (37:13):
No realizes what's going and said he wants to still
be a part of me.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
That's to me. Here's the option, dude. You can either
rest it, rehabit and try to get back by the
time it starts I mean the postseason at a late
different stretch run or get it done. We'll see in
the spring. I love the fact that the guy is saying, well,
I'm getting paid. It's good. I'll see in the spring.
He understand. We traded for Korea. Who's beloved here. That's
your position. You've played great baseball. You know that there's

(37:40):
a chance you can win this whole thing. Everybody's getting healthy.
I loved that pray. He said, Oh, hell no, I'm
getting back, come back, and I'm gonna pressure you guys
got to be I want to be in that lineup.
I freaking love it now. The only risk is we've
seen it happen before. Why in the world is Will
Levis waiting till two weeks before camp to tell us
he's getting shoulder surgery when he could have done it

(38:01):
six months before last year, yes, twisted Metal, and now
he can't play this year because surgery. So that's the
only risk. But if he'd come back and rehab it
and get done right with the proper shots, I'm all
for it. But I do love you know. It tells
me something about paradis that he's not here just collecting
a check and saying that it's good, I'll be fine,
that he wants to be a part of this team

(38:21):
now and recognizes for him even there's a sense of urgency.
It's not like they didn't go out and get somebody
and you're dealing with a backup you. They wouldn't got
a guy who's popularity here is through the roof and
is quite frankly, hit the ball pretty hard right now,
and it's going to be a gold glover at third base.
He just is if he plays there long enough. I
love Paradis's attitude towards this. I do my kind of guy.

(38:43):
At a time when guys want paid more and do less,
Paradis wants to play. And that tells me he loves
baseball as opposed to he loves the paycheck. So I'm
all in on him and I like his decidion. If
it doesn't work, it doesn't get healthy, keeper rehabit it.
I'll see in the spring. Anyway, what's the lop? If
you're ready to go, you get surgery, you're automatically eliminated

(39:05):
from this season. Yeah, you don't get now, you just
play it and then all of a sudden you say, Okay,
I'm good to go, let's go. If he's not, and
it adds great depth for them. But I learned something
about that. I know people say, well, would you learn
I can tell you this. It would have been easy
to get a paycheck and sit back and watch it happen.
The guy wants to die back in. Hell, if he
dives back in, he may not even be at one
hundred percent. He's at ninety percent. Feels good, So I

(39:26):
got to I'm going to play. Think about what that
bandwidth does for your team. What if Korea turns an
ankle and is out for two weeks in September and
wanted to happen. There's always the what if. You've got
to prepare for all, especially with this team. This tells
me something about a guy who's here in his first
year and says, oh, hell no, I'm not missing out
on this. You learn a lot about people in their decisions,

(39:47):
daily decisions. This for paradis good on him. I was
a fan already. He's elevated that staff think about.

Speaker 6 (39:55):
The clubhouse trust too that he gets from those guys
of well, this guy still wants to be a part
of this.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
While he watched. While he watches a World Series postseason
astros hero waltz into the building and hit the ground
running from the start and realize, no, no, no, I have
been your most consistent player and he had well pain
in him. But then, even if it's just a small
piece down the stretch, I'm going to show you. I'm
gonna tell you what you get. Guys like that, you'll

(40:21):
win a lot of games. Because he wants to play.
I know plenty of people who don't want to play.
I'm just I'm not talking about the astros high school
that want all the good stuff but aren't willing to
put the time that it takes to get the good stuff.
This dude said, you know, I'm not canceling this season
right now. He's not s U and c Hell no,
show up and colluse. That's exactly right. He is show

(40:41):
up and show out, or show up and show you
what I got, even if it's in a smaller because
is not coming out of the lineup. But this continues.
The question is how do you find a spot for
me if you're Paradius. Look what Victor carrotiniz done. He
has created a spot for himself. Huh. I mean, we
got DH and Ketcher playing the same day all the time,
and you're not even miss two hits here to it.

(41:01):
It's every day. So he's the same. What give me
those guys you're gonna win a lot, and uh there's
a there's a reason why they're still in first place.
It's attitude like that and some of these pitchers. And
what Alexander did last night, I'm all in on Paradis brother.
The way he did just on that we may not
even see him this year. The fact that he said
screws to the effort. Absolutely, yeah, no question, a long one.

(41:21):
That kind of guy for sure. All right.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
Uh, you know, speaking of the astros and the lineup
and guys that you want in or maybe in certain positions,
Well we can discuss that here because an interesting decision
made last night and we will talk about it. Sean
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Speaker 6 (42:21):
Stro's eight two winners last night over the Marlins in
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on the mound East Soak perettis he's gonna hold off
on surgery on that hamstring, taking a PRP injection instead
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(42:43):
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Speaker 1 (42:50):
So good luck to Lamar Little League.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
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five seven ninety is the number to get in and Sean.
Last night we saw a lineup that looked a little

(43:13):
bit different than what we've seen in recent times, even
with the additions of Jesus Sanchez, Carlos Korea, and Ramon Erius,
where we had seen a lineup for the better part
of about the last month or so that had Jose
Al Tuove either leading off or batting second, with Jeremy
Pania out.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
But last night we saw.

Speaker 6 (43:35):
Things switch up a little bit, and I'm gonna read
through it as quickly as I can, and also just
point out where some of the changes are. Penia leading off,
which we have zero problem with with the bats that
he's put together, Jesus Sanchez batting second, had seen him
bat third. I think he batted second in one of
the games in Boston, but batting second for this one,

(43:56):
I think it was second in the game that Penia
missed on that Saturday, Altuve batting third, Korea cleanup, Christian
Walker fifth.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
We like that.

Speaker 6 (44:07):
Victor Carrattini sixth, which you would had Jiner Diaz right there,
so you'd had kind of a little bit of that
logjam right there of Walker and Diaz.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
And I believe it was.

Speaker 6 (44:19):
A call on the postgame show on Sunday, on the
tenth Inning show of somebody, and I couldn't have agreed
with this point more brought up by a caller of
you need to split up Jiner and Christian because those
guys have not been consistent enough for you to believe
that they can prolong an inning and be able to
keep a rally going. If anything, they've shown you they've

(44:40):
been rally killers at times, and maybe Joe A. Spotta
listened and said, you know what, let's stagger them a
little bit. Let's have Victor Carrattini in the middle, who
we know is going to put together a good at
bat and more than anything, it's going to put the
ball in play.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah, Dan, they pay attention. I'm not sure that now.
One thing Joe spotted did say to us. You said
it sitting next to me at the fan fest before
spring training. I said, are you on social media? Do
you pay attention to what people say? He says, no,
but I do have somebody watching it to let me
know what the buzz is. Basically, the buzz is he's

(45:14):
on the always on the gram. Yeah, but he I mean,
but what I'm saying is he's not day to day based,
like we all are looking for stories for our show
and the rest of it, and you know, engaging with
that Joe. But they are paying attention because you do
want to pay attention to the buzz, but you don't
have time to. Joe's got bigger things to do than

(45:35):
talk to me and you on Twitter. You know, you
get my point, but you got to pay attention for
I think we all the more information you can gather
good information, excuse me, Dan, is the more information you
can gather, the more Like I said, I'm always looking
for me and when I look for solutions and stuff

(45:57):
that I don't know answers to or that I'm trying,
whether it's quarterback coaching, whether it was playing, whether it's
now is I'm trying to find the conflict, man, whatever
it is. It didn't have to be a mah, life changing.
But the conflict for Joe Aspot is you've got to
put a lineup in every day and if you don't know,
it's kind of nice to have, and it just to
get a feel for everything. All you're doing is well,

(46:18):
in analytics, what do we do. We gather information that's evidence.
So if the evidence says, man, I just saw this
number on social media from some stat guy, and you
know what, even though we got all these analytics here,
I didn't really realize and I do need to. And
Joe's not silly, I mean stupid. You know, he gets it.
And so you start to see something that is or
isn't working, and then all of a sudden it's validated

(46:40):
by you know what, people agree that's okay. It's okay
to make decisions with people that sometimes may know a
little more than you about a situation that you've got
caught up and doing five million other things. That you
missed a story if you're in broadcasting, or you missed
a video, if you're in the financial world. That oh, man,
I didn't know that that little law changed in the
real estate world in the last three months. Right, It's

(47:00):
easy to do that. Things are ever changing. So I
think that when we say listening, do I think he's
scanning the internet?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
No?

Speaker 1 (47:06):
But do I think he hears. That's why you have
teams around you, people around you to inform you on
what's happening. And sometimes you know we've done stuff. In
the next week you say, man, they moved to pain
you to the leadoffs sight. Yeah, if people have been
pining for or whatever whoever, it is, right. So that's
just called making adjustments, man, that's called it's smart. You

(47:29):
found the conflict, let's stagger and see if it works.
What's the answer to the test? After you find the conflict,
the rest is usually much easier. It's fine. And who
you got to attack on the football field or where
their strength is and where I can turn that into
where's their weakness? Same thing here, what's our strength? How
do I? Oh, that's the conflict. I got too many.
I got to stack them a little different and then

(47:49):
you go get the answers to the test. And then
when you have the answer to the test and you
ace it, you're like, Okay, we can live there for
a little while longer and if that doesn't work, then
you make adjustments from there. I have no problem with it.
I think it's a art move and if it can
pay off to the tune of six runs, seven runs,
five runs and five run innings all day every day, brother,
I'll take it. Well.

Speaker 6 (48:08):
Tremmeel beat at eighth, who's put together really good at
bats and I think been a bright spot for your
team with Jake Myers out and then Cam Smith back
in the lineup last night, who we've known how he
can put together good at bats and he did look
refreshed last night. That is one thing that I will say,
even with the foul ball home run that he hit,
he went the east Soak preitis route right there of

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hitting one where you're like, man, you straighten that out.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
That's that's going a long way.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
And just missing out on one, but a couple of
hits out of him too in that nine spots. And
one thing that I did notice the way that al
Contro was pitching him and the Marlins were pitching him.
Teams are peppering him with fastballs right now. They're saying
to them, Hey, we're gonna we're gonna bust you inside.
And once you prove that you can start getting around

(48:53):
on those and you can start hitting those with some authority,
then we'll adjust to you. But that's been a huge
part of what's allowed for Cam Smith to struggle this
about last month and a half or so.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Okay, And you know, it's a constant point counterpoint. You
just I adjust, you just diadjust. That's the way it works.
And it's like in anything. If you've got a team
that blitzes you all the time and you don't show
them that you can handle it, what are you going
to do as a defensive coordinator? Pressure pressure, pressure. The
second you hit a slant a blitz pick up for
a touchdown, the second you throw a fade route for

(49:26):
a touchdown on a blitz, what's the defensive coordinator a man?
He's crushed us twice on blitz, right, go back to
his own. You're going to play his own and not
pressure quarterback. But that's like shooting fish in a barrel.
I never done it before, but it seems pretty easy. Right.
So yes, here, and it's the same thing hitting. Oh
he's good here. Oh now he's learned to catch up
or has good inside out. He's short to the baseball. Okay,

(49:48):
let's try to pitch him with If you were pitching
anything to pain you when he wasn't going good, anything
but sweepers and sliders that were non competitive that he
was chasing early in his script, then you were an
idiot against it. Than you're an idiot right now once
they've realized oh that's they're not chasing it or they're
better at it, and competitive strikes, he's hitting the other way.

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I got to find a different way now to pitch him.
Look how they changed up the way they pitched h
McCormick and his when when he had the big year
with that closed stance, And what do you start doing?
You bust me. He's trying to pull everything. When he
is at his best, he's hitting the ball to the
right side of second base. You know what I'm saying,
so it's a just and this is that's smart managing
by Joe A. Spota, and it's it's really nice when

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you get start to get people healthy and start to
feel it in the depth of your lineup gets deeper.
You have more of those options that you're talking about
and adding adding the trade deadline players. They've expanded that.
And now if you can throw yord On into their
pain is rolling right now and start to get those
people healthy. Pitching staff now it's now you're the conflict

(50:52):
to other teams and they're searching and begging for answers
to their test.

Speaker 6 (50:55):
It shows that it's realizing the normal of the situation,
the urgency of the situation, because as I said yesterday
with Ross two and a half, that's what that smell is.
That smell is the Mariners right on your tail at
two and a half games back. Now they're three with
them being off last night, and then the Rangers, same smell.

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Four and a half out of the Rangers and they're
still there.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
I can tell you this that the Yankees have lost
four straight. They're not going good right now, and there's
a lot of heat and a lot of heat on
Aaron boon from former players that are putting it on
him twenty six and thirty three. Since May twenty eighth,
you're playing in Miami, I would suggest you get it
going because it's three games right now over Seattle. You

(51:43):
go there, you should expect, kind of like the Astros
when they are going good, to fix what happened in
Boston quickly. You should expect when you get back and
headed the Northeast, that that Yankee team is gonna should
hit different. You shouldn't expect the team to getting there.
Ask if you do get the team that's down and
out and people are questioning, have at it, go bury them,

(52:04):
but they're going to be You should be prepared for
when you go there. You got to take care of
this next two days, but be prepared that that they're
going to have their They're going to have a swift
kick in the ass from their fan base and from
their manager because they need it. Another hot take for you.

Speaker 6 (52:19):
I know you usually don't preface your hot takes, just Sam,
but remember what I said going into that mar that
Mariner series, which you're able to win that final game
so you're still in play to win the division. The
Astros go up there and sweep the Yankees this weekend,
they'll fire Aaron Boone. They will fire Aaron Boone if
they get swept this week if the Astros sweep them.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
There, well, if they struggle in the next couple of
games before the Astros get there and then all of
a sudden they get hammered by the Astros. Bengo Banngo Bongo.
You you may see something that's been talked about it
And I love Booney, I do. He's a trojan. How
can I not right? But you're gonna when when you when?

Speaker 2 (52:56):
When?

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Yeah, I get it, he that that will be that
won't be a hot take. That that that's not hot takers.
I think that's the question is do you gain anything
at this stage of the season firing a manager? Wow?
I mean the Phillies did it in the World Series
year was agreed. That's the aberration and it worked with

(53:18):
Thompson right that and it can But especially if I'll
tell you when it works is if there's no if
if the buy in from the players, if they I
don't want to say quit, if they're reeling right now
on their belief and their manager or vice versa.

Speaker 6 (53:34):
Into them, didn't that O three Marlins team. Didn't they
do the same thing with McKeon.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
They might have came in. You talk about Trader Jack, Yeah,
where he came in middle of the season.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
He's on the bench smoking his cigars before the games
and a series Trader Jack for a long time.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
You might be was that Meggie Cabrera's team? It was, yeah,
that he might be right and he was akinny old
veteran right care or two hundred at the time. Did
stop hi from it and rope at it and do
it all the things he does? This guy's a really
call of fame career, right, So maybe, but that's the aberration.
But that's what you're counting on when you do make

(54:09):
that move, is that that red bull kicks in and
lets it rip right and your then get on a
ten game run or fifteen game run. These next couple
of weeks is going to be interesting to watch what's
going on in Yankee Stadium. Like us talking in the
microphones here, imagine what it is on f an and
all of those When when you get the captain questioning decisions,

(54:30):
who doesn't question much, that's the Walter Cronkite. Yes, I
was gonna say Jeter's questioning decisions. Things start to take
It's there's a problem going on in New York, and
Aaron Boone knows they're gonna have to fix it fast.

Speaker 6 (54:43):
For gen Z and the millennials out there that don't
know what I just mentioned, just go look up Walter
kronkr Vietnam War and you'll know.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Yeah, that's probably that's above their pay grade. But they
can go find that answer. Google is a beautiful thing.
It brings, It brings everybody on the equal pay grade.
That's exactly. Yeah, not hard to find. Hence the name
of Arizona State Broadcast School, right or even what was it?
Signetti the coach at Indiana, I win google me. That's exactly.
That was on college game now yea a way to

(55:11):
press conference. Yeah yeah, he's got some good one liners.
He's got a confidence for a guy who coaches Indiana football.
I like it.

Speaker 6 (55:17):
Non't got him to the playoffs, damn right, argue with
all in for sure. All right, you love your pets, Sean,
I love my pets. I think belief. Yeah, most of
us love our pets. But sometimes that love gets too
much that somebody has to step in and I'll explain
what I mean right here. It is a Shawan Salisbury
show on a Tuesday, Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Speaker 3 (55:54):
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The Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
It is the Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
We do it at this time every single weekday morning.
It's the stakeout here on the show. After the Astros
win last night eight to two over the Marlins, Esak
Perettis is gonna hold off on surgery. It hope's playing
again this season on that hamstring taking a PRP injection instead.
In the NCAA, gonna keep the basketball tournament at sixty

(56:42):
eight teams or the foreseeable future.

Speaker 6 (56:45):
All right, Shawn, as I mentioned, you love your pets.
I love my pets. Shout out Pixie and Choco love
our dogs. And you will travel with your dogs because
you're notorious for road trips. Because no one Now I
want to I want to bring my pups with me.
I can't remember the last time I took a trip
without my dogs. So means I'm driving everywhere.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
It helps?

Speaker 6 (57:05):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely So a Florida woman, there's the Florida
man out there that's like, you know, ha, what me
this timy jerks. A Florida woman caught the attention of
TSA because she tried to board a flight with two
turtles stuffed in her bra She had cuff and link
with her.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
So did they say, are those two turtles? Are you
just happy to see me? I? Maybe?

Speaker 2 (57:29):
So?

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Who knows? I mean maybe?

Speaker 6 (57:31):
You know sometimes with TSA, you know, they the sense
of humor is not free flowing.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Well you think, yeah, yeah, laptops out, shoes on damn?
Oh yeah, oh man, I'll tell you what. I'd kill
somebody not to have to do this. What yeah, yeah,
you can't say. Well, I just said to me it
was like a Joe, I kill somebody not to have
to take my shoes off. Well you don't anymore, but hey,

(57:57):
call security, you said, you know I did? Was it mad?
That's that's that's that's when the glove.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
Absolutely no doubt you're getting You're getting the search, whether
you like it or not. But a Florida woman traveling
through Miami International airports recently attempted to board a plane
with a pair of turtles and try to take them
through the security checkpoint. T s a writing on Facebook. Okay, friends, please,

(58:23):
and we cannot emphasize this enough, stop hiding animals in
weird places on your body then trying to sneak them
through airports security. So in this case, right here, it
was somebody who and it's always inevitably the same response, Oh,
I need to have my pets with me. I I
need to I need to have my turtles with me.
They're they're they're my service turtles. They're turtles.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
They don't they don't do anything. How do you know
it's not one of those turtles from the cartoon. Probably not.
That's a teenage mutant. It's not Michaelangelo, it's not not
Leonardo Raphael. Yeah, don't be mean to those. Tripley has
a couple that he takes with him on his trips back, and.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
He brought Master Splinter. I'd hate to see where she
stuffed Master Splinter.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
That would be in the butt, Bob. Do you ever
did you ever see the newly Weed game? Well, the
strangest place you've ever had sex? Uh, that'd be in
the butt. Bob. Oh, yes, dude, go back the all time.
I've seen great clips. I know you definitely have because
you don't miss that stuff. But yeah, Triple, and I
got a clection. We were asking Triple, I got a cquestion. Dude,

(59:35):
you're making fun of me? Is this? Was this like
a dig at me because I traveled with my turn
and I keep him in my pants, in my pockets.
And then somebody said, are those turtles in your pockets?
Now this fails the left in his hut? And who's
the other guy? What's giving?

Speaker 6 (59:52):
I mean, there's any of the follow was always I
call him, call it stupid wooden stick, call him Donnie.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Yeah, but I got him in my front left right pocket.

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
Mike, you with the numb chucks, you had Raphael with
the daggers, and then you had of course, who am
I leaving out the blue one? God, this this sucks
because Leonardo Leo.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Not to be confused with Leonardo da Vinci or DiCaprio. Okay,
real quick, I'm going to check you on something because
I want to know if I'm right or wrong. I
know there's a story here and we're going with it.
But that's the story. Right, that is the story I
want to finish off. Yes, dude, you okay the things
that Bruce Lee uses. What are they called again, numb chucks?
Spell it in U M C C h U K

(01:00:40):
s okay hence and I'm glad you said. It's kind
of like I always get people on this. They say,
I'm not calling out, but I always wonder how people
like You'll get people say Valentime's day, t I M
E S. And you'll also get people who call him
mister snuffle luff A. Guess I remember this one for
snuffle up. I guess I've told you that before Susan Street,

(01:01:00):
but this one is not. I don't think they're numb,
and you am. I think they're none, and you end
chucks ah all your life. I get. I'm with you.
I'm just trying to think numb chucks, right, numbchucks, numb chucks,
we all think that, but I do believe it's nun chucks.
Check it out? Am I right or wrong on that?
I'm asking I'll look it up during the break. I'm

(01:01:22):
not sure you don't have to worry about, like looking
up on the company computer. Nunchucks isn't gonna come up
as a porn side or anything. I think it's nun chucks.
But so you're so if she wants the moral of
the story, did she say she takes them because they
are herr her like safe space.

Speaker 6 (01:01:39):
Fleet in a roundabout way, just because. I mean, if
you're trying to go to Great Links to bring your turtles,
then we'll drive. And if you're going somewhere and you
try to put them on there, I mean, can't turtles
if you leave them in their cage and home or
have somebody come check. It's like a fish, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
You feel you don't travel with your goldfish that you
bought your three kids, that a bunch of goldfish. You
don't stick them in a glad bag or a snake
see through and take it with you. Snakes on a
plane and take it with you. You have somebody come
over and watch it. You pay some kid to come
over and feed it every three days. I would think
the turtles are quite survivable. Hell, if you have a
fence in your backyard, that's clothes. Stick them in your

(01:02:15):
backyard and nobody gonna hurt them. See.

Speaker 6 (01:02:17):
I love dogs as much as anyone, but like some
of the emotional support or even service animal vests that
are out there, because my mom trained service.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Does some people just do it. They they you used
to be able to order it online as a vent,
that's what it was. And there really wasn't your service dog.
And they sat them fool because.

Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
There was one that was a service dog on my
flight once and it was in one of those little
like carrying cases. Because it was a small dog yapped
and whined the entire way, which make miserable for those see,
and that's that's what it was. I don't want to
You've got to be aware of the people around because people,
you know, will say this about kids flying, which it's like, hey, look,
kid's gotta fly to but like for that right there,

(01:02:56):
it's a you're making it worse for your dog for
your own selfish benefit. I get why you want your
dog with you, but your dog like and if it's
doing that, it's probably done other things in there, right
because it's so scared.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
And I got three now my big one can't go
short snout to my one hundred pounds bully, right, three dogs,
but if I want to take them, I just now.
We used to travel with the little one when that
was the only one we had. But didn't say no
peep on the flight nothing. I would never And even
when I had kids, dude, one thing I had from
the time they rolled enough to pacifier out of their
mouth when we're on a plane. We don't whine, we

(01:03:29):
don't cry, we don't yell. We're not doing any of that.
And if they're too young to know what that means,
then you either feed them or have something to do
for them. The family, no offense. And I understand somebody's
got an earache and it's miserable, completely understands. But the
one that they won't discipline their kid and the kids
just kick in the back seat and the rest of
I don't care. If it's your kid, enough discipline them,
which goes back to I had somebody ask me, Dan,
remember I told you a story about the rabbit, right,

(01:03:51):
Did I tell you the story about the rabbit last week? Yeah? Yeah.
We nursed it back to shape, cleaned it up, stayed
with us day and a half, and released it out
back of the wild and it's sprinted away healthy, it's
paw no longer bleed, and it has a big old
scar on the top of its head. I picked it
up in the middle of the street after somebody had it.
Somehow it ran into it but didn't run over it.
And it was just so staggered, but it took it

(01:04:12):
and there I couldn't vet it was after closed, So
I told you, but I had somebody asked me. So
I'm just letting you know that the rabbit was nursed
back to shape. We got it back in shape and
and uh, I don't want to in a roundabout way,
Banje did it bandage up and cleared the health and
then released it out there into the green belt. It
it ran away and as health happy and healthy as

(01:04:33):
could be. So other than just gonna have it's probably
gonna be able to pick up on a chick because
it's gonna have the scar to show for their battles,
you know, the ones were the the other but and
they'll probably bang like rabbits. That's what they do. Now
that's a cycle. Look, there's your answer. Yes, the rabbit's
healthy and safe and ready to go. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:04:53):
Well look, I mean I I just know like for example,
Pixie is very very territorial and your dog. Yeah, and
I brought her up here during Beryl last year because
I didn't have anywhere else to go with her at
the time, so we just only had her. And like
Brian Erickson came into the studio barking like crazy, Chris Gordy,
same deal. So if she's doing that there, what would

(01:05:14):
she do on a flight where she doesn't like being
in unfamiliar settings as is? Thunderstorms, all those things not good?

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
So you probably don't take her on them. No, right, No,
that's why I drive control. Yeah, of course, but I
just can't for my three dogs and they have their habits,
and so I I just don't put them, you know,
you know, and I understand why people do, but they
were place right right or no. I prefer, like my
sister to fly into town, so I had to come

(01:05:41):
to stay at the house so they're familiar and then
it's easy because they love it. But a stranger watching
my dogs for a week. But like I won't I
can't go to Hawaii right now or now I'm going
to White for my son's marriage, but dogs don't get
to go. So I'm going to is that I won't
go to Cobble or any of those places that your
flight or anywhere that requires a flight where you're going

(01:06:03):
for a week or two. I going to California. I
drove all the way to Pebble Beach. Why because I
get an Airbnb for my dogs. I don't remember last
time I stayed with a fan at a hotel. It's
been a long time because I ain't keeping a hundred
pound bully in a hotel room. So it becomes expensive
in a pain in the ass. But you learn to
adjust because they're more important to me than an extra
two days saved on a flight vacation. I know that

(01:06:25):
sounds psycho, but my goal is to get a big
old spread for dogs that they never have to worry
about dying. That if you can't do it, we'll I'll
feed them, I'll take care of them.

Speaker 6 (01:06:34):
It's just also too always funny, no matter how small
like a dog like Pixie is, she's always going to
find a way to make even if it's a king
sized bed even smaller.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Of course knows that for me all the time, custom
a double California cakes. But even if you're over did
they'll find even those other spaces they're going to lay
right now, there's numerous times we're in the middle of
the night, she's sleeping sideways and I'm like, okay, we're
going to sleep. Do you ever give pixie sticks? Have
every once in while choose? Yeah? I did there, Yeah, yeah,
I know where you're going. See some people don't know

(01:07:03):
about PIXI stick, No dad jokes today, moral of the stories.
Don't get on the plane with no turtles. Turtles in
the bras, where your brawls are your master splinter and
any other places that maybe or not, I don't know
you could either confirm nor did I write that. You know,
because there was that long time internet rumor about Richard Gear,

(01:07:24):
which that's an Internet rumor. Well maybe it is. Maybe
it is it to each his own behind his closed
doors family guy did think that too. No, thanks, Hey Richard,
is that true? Really came out of nowhere?

Speaker 11 (01:07:36):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Where'd that come from? You'd have to really gear up
for that. He would.

Speaker 6 (01:07:40):
Try not to think of primal fear that way. But
by the way, Nune Chucks is none Chuck you, it's
in you in Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
So I was right about the d h A k U. Okay, yeah, guys,
that's what Brandon caught. Well, yeah, I was going to
tell you guys. Brandon called it the Yeah right, Okay,
there you go. So there, see Dan, all these years
of your life now you know, but none would make
sense though, because you know you get hit with one
of them. Yeah right, they both work. But just just

(01:08:10):
you know, we just like to give you a little
inside information. That's it.

Speaker 12 (01:08:14):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
Yeah, shout out to the teenage meeting Ninja, Turtles and
Master Splinter still huge heroes, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Dwayne, and see you right there.

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
We'll get you involved in the conversation because the astros
still front of mind and Mike, one of these guys
found their way out of the hl COT last night.
I'll explain what that means. It is a Sean Salisbury show,
Sports Talk seven night.

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Speaker 6 (01:09:50):
For the Sewn Salisbury show continues. First, Duayanne and El
Paso wants to weigh into Wayne. Good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 12 (01:10:01):
I got a question for Sean and Matt, both of y'all.
Do the fans, the city of Houston, and the management
of the Houston Astros trust in Dane Brown after the
decisions that he made in this last pick that he got. Now,

(01:10:23):
the question I'm asking is do his captains, his scouts
and all the rest of the management and stuff. I
mean think that he's done a good job because they're
still in first and yeah, there's only two and a
half or three games. But once I think Joe A
Spotter gets these guys moved around to the positions that

(01:10:45):
he thinks they're going to be in, then I think
they'll continue to do a good job. But the question is,
what's all with the controversy that is coming up in Houston. Oh,
he dropped the ball or he made is still struck
out or stuff like that? Do they trust in this
man enough to let him go and continue to do

(01:11:07):
what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Hey, that's my question, Dwyne. Don't go anywhere real quick,
I don't you just tell me from your vantage point.
Are you do you like what Dana Brown's doing? Yes?
Or no?

Speaker 12 (01:11:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Okay I do too. Okay, So let me ask you this.
Let's just just the personnel decisions. There's only one thing
I ever hear anybody complain about with Dana Brown, and
that's that that he's that he doesn't have a doctorate
on coming on here and have to talk like he's
a trainer or doctor injury report. Yes, yeah, he's got
and he got it on the fly. He got the

(01:11:43):
original one because he's got to answer all the all
of our when's Jordon coming back? Is paying you? Hell?
I mean there's twenty internship and everything, right, he would
like to Yeah, where are you going in your well?
I got to do my next, my next what do
they call uh? What do they call it? When they
go with like ten different notes? They call him ten
different residencies whatever it's called. Where they go? Won this

(01:12:05):
orthopedics and the next one is right, Dana Brown's I
feel bad for him because he gets peppered with doctor
questions about when's the guy got to be healthy? I
can't wait till he says, Hell, Sean, how would I know?
I'm not your dog?

Speaker 7 (01:12:17):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
But when it comes to baseball talent scouting decisions, he
crushed the trade deadline. He just didn't get you didn't
get the picture they wanted. But he didn't have to
mortgage the future. I don't hear Dana Brown to me,
I can put him in the Executive of the Year category.
Anybody that's saying Dana Brown fired, Dana Brown's an idiot,

(01:12:38):
And I don't mean it personally. It's just that you've
got to be smarter with your baseball decisions. Jordan's injury
report isn't a Dana Brown issue. It's an issue trying
to get your team right. But that's not the you
mean that. Talk to the orthopedics for guys that do
that right. So, Dwayne, I think for the most part
and heavy lean towards people support Dane Bran and I've

(01:12:59):
over this last trade. I saw people on Twitter contact
us saying he won me over because he's making good decisions.
Most people's frustration is with the length of the injuries
and the making progress, you know, because that's they protect
their players, right, You're always going to say stuff about oh,
you know, and rightfully so you want to protect those
guys on your own team. But other than that, when

(01:13:20):
it comes to personnel and getting the right people, this
team's three games in first place has had four thousand
injuries and Dana who would have thought that Hummel Tremmel
would have contributed just in any way? Gordon, Jason, Alexander,
So I think Walter, Dwayne, I think that I think
it's overwhelming that Dana Brown's done a great job and

(01:13:43):
the people that may may want Jeff Luno back that
can't let go. Well, I get it. Luno's good and
he'll be a GM again. I think as you and Ias.
But I don't see how anybody can question Dana Brown's
not only commitment, but his expertise on what he's done
building this team and getting players in to play well
under the circumstances. Yeah, I'm all in on Dana Brown,

(01:14:04):
even though he doesn't want to be a doctor. And
I don't blame him. Dwayne got to hit a break man.
Appreciate the cold stuff, Dwayne, Thank you, brother, appreciate it.
Thanks buddy.

Speaker 6 (01:14:11):
Yeah, the short answer is unequivocally yes, And I'm gonna
leave you with the question.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Joys Spott will never be no matter what happens, He'll
never be able to people are still going to compare
him to who oh it's a J Hinch And guess
who won a World Series in between the two. Yeah,
Dusty Baker was pretty damn good as exactly. So it's
the ones that just and I get it. But at
some point, ty, hell, who does I want Jim Rice
and fred Lynn bat back in Boston? They don't play anymore?
You know what? I mean, so you got to do it.

(01:14:37):
And we're fortunate here that no matter who you put in,
James clicked, they've been able to elevate in whatever their
specialty is. And Dana Brown's specialty is understanding, scouting and talent,
and he's done a hell of a job about.

Speaker 6 (01:14:47):
It, given that I had experienced both with the Braves
and with the Astros. The Braves used to make really
savvy roster decisions who was in the building. Dana Brown
and the Astros now are making really savvy rosters who's
in the building. Listen, it's it's not coincidence, Dand it's
just good solid knowing. Certain guys just go places, and

(01:15:09):
no matter where they go, thanks change for the better.
Dana Brown's done some good stuff. Man, you just answered
my question.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
It really is. We shouldn't be talking about, well, what
are we doing next? You talk about a contract extension
with a guy like that. You can't save everybody, yeah, yep,
but at least you can keep Dana Brown around, and
that's what the Astros plan on doing. Seven one three, two,
one two five, seven ninety is the number to get
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Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
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Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
Before we get into the high leverage circle of trust.
That's the hl coot that I was mentioning. It was
a pretty funny interaction last night with a group of three.
It was Joe Aspata who mentioned what the pitching plans
were going to be bullpen game, and then Arraghetty on
Wednesday and Schadler, Rome and McTaggart. They were kind of

(01:16:03):
working through the semantics there. It was almost like an
Abbott and Costello, you know who's on first, Like it was,
you know, oh so so this is happening. Yeah, yeah
that no, no, no, that's that's happening. No, Like it
was for about a minute and a half and Ross
played it last time on the Tenth Inning Show where
it was like all three of them just kind of
working through bullpen bullpen tomorrow, Raghetty on Wednesday. Okay, so

(01:16:27):
it's bullpen tomorrow, Ragedty Wednesday. Yes, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Yeah, it was trying to figure out and dude, considering
all the different ways they've had to mix and match,
not only reporters who've had to cover it, but a
Spota who's had to try and walk us through it. Yeah,
it's the hardest part of their job these year has
been trying to who do I have available to me.
That's a lot of substitute teachers, brother, Yeah, that is
a lot of substitute teachers that have filled in and

(01:16:53):
quite frankly, didn't just push the card in and run.
The video actually taught them up and and they've done
a hell of a job. Three game lead, two more
important games and then go hammer the Yankees and come
back home. And you owe the Red Sox a little something.
I was gonna say, why don't you exactly a little
revenge against the Red Sox? Hey, you got us at
your place. Guess what we got you here a message

(01:17:14):
set and if you want to come back for that
ass kicking again, you know where to find us. We'll
see in the postseason.

Speaker 12 (01:17:19):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
I like it. I'm with you.

Speaker 6 (01:17:21):
Love those challenges for sure, But the high leverage circle
of trust Brian King has been in it. It's Brian
King finding his way out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Because of recent struggles. Do you believe in body of work? Yeah?
How was his body work last year?

Speaker 6 (01:17:42):
And that's what I said to somebody who mentioned that
to me. I said, he's a victim of his success.
A lot of so good in the beginning of the
season last year, and this year he's had tremendous he was.
I mean, you saw something and when you saw him
last year, then this year you knew he was bringing
something to the table, and he has.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
He's actually going through what we saw Bray. You go
through last was it last year? Right? Because two years
ago he was like unhittable for the most part. Then
last year you know different. I mean with the he
and the Presley and the hater situation, and at times

(01:18:20):
of Bray you're like, oh, stubbed his toe a little bit,
but was still when he's right, he's right, and he's
back to being Brian and brave for the most part.
They don't all relievers, And it's kind of a rhetorical question,
but in truth it don't most of them go through this. Yes,
as much as you used and relied upon, you're gonna
You're going to go through this tent. My thing is

(01:18:40):
for him to get through this, get out on the
other side, and get back to who you've been since
they've trusted you. I wouldn't say yet I think, like,
if you're Joe Spot and Dana Brown and the team,
I think you're probably saying, no, no, no, we know what
this guy, what he brings to the table. He's stubbed
toe a little bit. But now, Dan, if you're telling me,

(01:19:02):
you're asking me the same question in September, beginning September
on August, is that it's not whether they've lost it
or not. You would have to make some different changes.
Didn't we see that a little bit somehow some way?
Did Dusty lose it with Ryan's Stanick a little bit
at one point in time where we weren't seeing enough?
You know what I'm saying, It only takes one of
those guys making decisions. Hey, I'm just not feeling it

(01:19:24):
right now. I don't think we're there yet because he's
been really really good and really relied upon and really
competitive and and but he also knows that it relievers
like no other. You're about as good as the next appearance, right,
So there's pressure there, But you know what, the guy's
been really good, So I'm gonna go body of work.
It's not a hall pass. It's a belief that this

(01:19:46):
isn't who he is Okay, No, I mean, and I'm
I'm on the bouts creeping in for some I'm sure
there are well, I mean because I mean especially too
with how well Bennett Susan there's no question. So I
would ask you this, if Susa goes through a two
weeks band where he's not the same guy, you automatically
quitting on his trust.

Speaker 6 (01:20:03):
It's kind of like a quarterback. You can't keep interchanging
these guys. You gotta finally ride with somebody and go with.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Them, and not only until they play their way so
far out of it you just sure then well you
know who that is. When Montero, Yeah, remember great came here,
was good, got a pay raise, and really was never
the same guy consistently. He eventually they eventually lost that
belief in him after they pay it just didn't work.

(01:20:28):
We're not there with these guys yet, but that's what happens.
And you say, listen, man, I mean, hell, you could
ask the same question about Lance mccullors. Are they losing
that trusted that circle of faith in him?

Speaker 13 (01:20:38):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
And for a guy who's been here kicking ass when
I'm talking about right when he was, when he was
Lance mccullor's that guy. It's been a minute for his consistency.
So yeah, it's easy to lose when you're a When
you're a and those guys, they're such high leverage guys,
it's tough man.

Speaker 6 (01:20:53):
Perhaps with Montero, they should have followed the Daryl Morey
way of thinking. With Chandler Parsons, you find the Chandler Parsons,
you don't sign Chandler Parsons well. To Rafael Montero, it
should have been you you find Rafael Montero, you don't
sign him well.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
And it proved to be one of the decisions that
they'd probably like back well, and it worked out with
them trading him to Atlanta and then they shipped him
off to Detroit.

Speaker 6 (01:21:15):
So it all works out in the end. These things
have a way of working themselves out, that's for sure,
all right. Speaking of the Astros and the guys that
are coming back in the rotation and maybe throughout this
pitching staff, might a plan already be in place? I
have one cooked up. We'll talk about it here. Sean
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(01:23:01):
know that Spencer Araghedty's going to pitch on Wednesday, and
then probably sometime next week when you're back home, Christian
Xavier is going to pitch now at least Arraghetty his
last time out. I think you brought it up yesterday,
seventy nine pitches the last time that he was on
the mound in TRIPLEA. And I always caution people don't
look at the stats when it comes to that, because again,

(01:23:22):
it's spring training. It's him just trying to work on pitches,
throw pitches, not necessarily working a game plan any of
those things.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Oh, his game plans is not studying the hitter. His
game plans himself is just a preseason game. In football.
You don't game plan against the defense. You gain plan
for you.

Speaker 6 (01:23:39):
I'm going to throw them, throw what I need to
throw in order to get me ready, that kind of thing,
for sure. But I have to believe when he comes back,
especially for the first two or three starts. And the
same deal with Hoavi here. You're not looking for longevity
out of those guys. You're looking for probably they hit
that seventy five to ninety pitch range.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
That's maxed out at ninety. If they're in there, get
that high at least early in their starts. You say in.

Speaker 6 (01:24:01):
Arraghetti, is one of those guys in hobby or can
be that way too where gosh, I mean, that's maybe
three four innings, So then you're all right, what's that
bridge to get to the next part. That's where the
final two guys of the four that have been slated
to come back and you've been waiting on, that's where
they come in. Because I almost wonder if Joe is
going to kind of take this approach with those guys

(01:24:25):
of they give me three or four innings, that's cool,
Give me two or three innings, JP Frantz, give me,
give me a couple of innings, Luis Garcia, and then
we can get to the back end of the bullpen.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Yeah. I would imagine if you're Joe a spot in
this organization, you're saying, if I get four, plan on four.
If I get more than that, plan on three, plan
on four innings. If I get more than that, I'm
talking about their first start or too sure, then you're
prepared that by the fifth inning, somebody else is coming
into pitch. That's what you're prepared for. You don't prepare for. Well,

(01:24:57):
he's going seven and you you adjust up, you don't
adjust down when it comes to their initial starts, and
so you go into it and your bullpen's thinking to themselves,
no matter what happens, by the fifth inning, the next
man up is coming into pitch. Yet my question is,
let's say Raghetti comes in. He's at seventy pitches and

(01:25:17):
he's mowing him down in the fifth inning. Now what
stick with him, do you? Yeah? Okay, eighty pitches, fifth inning,
mowing him down. Velo's round the same. But this is
his first start, and he's got your five inning, scattered
four hits, no runs, walked one, struck out five. Oh,

(01:25:38):
if it's the first start, well then probably at that
smut I'm talking about. Right, Hey, he comes out next week.
This is a good starting point, right he starting with Wednesday?
Wednesday's game. Yeah, four innings, sixty five pitches, no runs,
but scattered three hits. You bringing him out for a fourth? Yeah,
he's going back out there. Okay, fifth inning, gets to

(01:25:59):
throws fifth pitches in the inning, they get a hit
off him, he's got one walk, So he now gets
you through your your into the fifth inning and he's
thrown seventy five pitches, seventy seven seventy eight pitches of
scoreless ball scattered, five hits and one walk, struck out five.
Are you keeping him in by necessity? You might have

(01:26:20):
to because of what you're doing today. Okay, then you go,
that's a good point because they're what they're rolling out.
Now you're going to ask him. Pretty good ask considering
you're going bullpen today and you're asking him. You're bringing.
It's not like Fromber's starting tomorrow. We say, okay, we're
going to get the six or seven innings your hunter brown, right,
So it is an ask. And then the question is

(01:26:43):
where's the line in the sand? Is it a sand
or is it etched in stone? He's going good, he
got the eighty pitches, he's done. It's sand because you
got the off day there on Thursday. Okay, so you
can stretch guys a little bit. And obviously it becomes
how are you feeling? And you're keeping an eye on
is the ball up? Is the velocity up? After seventy
seventy five pitches. I'm with you, I'm on my pitch count. Okay,

(01:27:07):
we get him to seventy he's out. What if it's
seventy pitches, he's going strong. You got to extend him, correct,
You got to let this run right at least another inning,
or bring him out if he walks the lead off, batter,
stir and get going right. Sure. So that's where I'm
really anxious to see between him and Javier and Javier
in the next one week or so, I'm really anxious

(01:27:30):
to see how they do this. I know what they'll
do if they're laboring a little. I got that answer.
My question is what do they do if they're not laboring?
And you got Javier hovering in the ninety four to
ninety five range when he pitches, and Raghetti doing his
thing get and swing and miss, and they're scattering a
few hits but pitching well. And then they're in the

(01:27:51):
fifth inning and they're at seventy seven pitches. Now, may
not be the most efficient five innings with seventy seven,
but you know the inning for you you had a
nine pitch in by today's standards, that'd be very efficially. Agrees. Now,
if you're talking, does it feel efficient? Almost eighty pitches
in five innings? You're like, no, But it is. So
the question is night, that's exactly right. Where where does

(01:28:15):
the where's the cutoff point of pitches verse workload verse
kick an ass? There's got to be there. I almost
believe there's got to be when you get to a
certain point, like you said the one the five innings
at seventy five pitches line in the sand, six inning,
eighty five pitches etched in stone.

Speaker 6 (01:28:34):
Correct, seventy five seventy five pitches. Josh Miller's on the phone.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Okay, and you're stirring up, and you may bring him
out for one more, one more bring him out in
the fifth of the sixth inning, and see how it
goes if he walks or labors with the first batter
or pitch count gets up twelve pitches to one guy
foul and balls off. Get that through that batter, next
guy out, eighty two, get through the inning, and or

(01:28:58):
if it's eighty two in labor and he walk, somebody
that's getting on shake and a hey, great job, phenomen
come back right, Yeah, yeah, I'm anxious to see how
they deal if it's successful. We already know how they'll deal.
If you know pitch counts at sixty and you're in
the middle of the third inning, you know, I'm saying,
or if you should, I say, you're two outs into
the third inning, You're like, Okay, it's not overly efficient,

(01:29:18):
and he's laboring a little bit, but at least we've
got some work. I'm acious to see how they do
if they're success with the arraghetti On Wednesday.

Speaker 6 (01:29:24):
As you kept talking, I started to think through this
and I was about to ask it this way, but
then I now know the answer, but I just want
to know if you know the answer. Lance mccullor's worked
his way out, like it's just he comes back. Maybe he's,
you know, a middle relief guy for right now. But
I mean, at this point, with what you just got
last night out of Jason Alexander, can you necessarily say hey, thanks,

(01:29:48):
but can't really keep you around here now For Lance mccullors.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
I'm at the point now that Lance mccollors is my
spot starter if I need it. So he's the gusto. Yeah. Yeah,
see you talked about circle of trust. See the circle
of trust isn't from last year the year before. Lance's
circle of trust goes back two years plus, oh yeah,

(01:30:14):
two years plus, yeah, yeah, and this year one day
it's boom and then next then a blister. For my money,
right now, Lance mc colors has to take the gig back.
I just for me, I think, what right now? You're
and I and you know I'm a fan, I am,
But you run him out there right now, there's no
bigger question mark in the starting rotation than him. I

(01:30:38):
agree as a matter of fact, Mike the questions with him.
I haven't seen Spencer Getty pitch yet, and I'm talking
about since the injury, and neither of you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
Uh. I.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
I trust that he's going to come back and give
me more. I do, and I think Lance has Like
I said, I understand it's been through an injury. I
get all that, But if you run him out there
as a starter, then I got to have a I
gotta have some expectations, right man. It's not two and
two thirds, it's not three and the third. It's just
not so to me, Lance mccullors is a spot starter
and a bullpen guy right now. That's for free. If

(01:31:11):
you're in a five man rotation, I think that you're
I think the risk right now is a little bit
greater than the reward.

Speaker 6 (01:31:19):
Arrogant he got hurt from a freak accident, and Lance
McCullers has had a lot of freak accidents. So if
that sounds harsh and that's unfair, it's not a matter
of harsh or unfair. It's not a person's on you.
I mean, it's just I can't trust that he's going
to be healthy. That's the problem. It's evidence. It's yes,
we've seen it. Yes now not only healthy, but when

(01:31:39):
he's out there, I don't know what kind of command
he has. And I can tell you this, if this
was a postseason or you had a week to go
and he had five more starts and this series were tied,
you're tied with the Mariners and the Rangers, everybody was
winning the game first place.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
I can't do it. Not you're not seeing him as
a starting pitching if it goes like this now, if
he comes back and his light's out for three yes,
But as we sit today, if you push it forward
and this was a final week of the season and
he was healthy, you can't run him out there as
a starter. You just can't. And I know that sounds
little or unless you run him out and say it's
we're bullpinning of the final week of the season, give

(01:32:16):
me two innings, okay, but right now, no, there's there.
Lance mccullors has got some work to do for me to.
I can't run him out there as one of my
first five. I just can't.

Speaker 6 (01:32:26):
Even before the injury, it was walks, it was too
many barrels being met, it was all the stuff in
the world.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
The command has just not been there. And that then
you start to question, Okay, where's the confidence. How is
he Because the guy's a hell of a talent. But
if it's if it's a if this's the seasons on
the line, with five games to go, when he's one
of the five starts, I can't run him out there.
I can as a bullpen short, short guy, I can't.
I can't run him long out there. I just can't.
When I say short guy meaning two innings in a

(01:32:54):
bullpen thing or if you start him. You know, dude,
I'm just asking for nine outs. Lance, we just we
next time you get the opportunity we need Dodger Stadium lands. Yeah.
And I love him. I love him, I just said.
And I think he probably knows that he's battling for
that too. He's he knows what competition is sure. But
right now you talked about circle of trust. I think
that there's a I think that that while they love him,

(01:33:17):
there there is no doubt. Right now you're wondering can
he get us the five? Because when he's good man,
you can't. You can't hit him. The question is the
win hasn't been there enough.

Speaker 6 (01:33:26):
It's just you're not getting that guy enough for you
to be able to trust him. That's the problem. Serious
injuries are effectiveness.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
The seasons on the line, and it's it's his start
or it's or it's uh, Jason, Alexander start, and you've
got to win it, and everybody else's beat your starting
pitch to beat who you run out there first. I mean,
I know you want me to answer, Alexander. You're gonna
say mcculor's because of this past history exactly. Yeah, you see,
I I can't give you that stand. I can't give
you that that answer just yet. And I want to

(01:33:56):
because I would say mccullor's seen it a million times sure,
and I want that to be my answer. I'm not
sure today I can make that decision. Is he with
the team on this road trip?

Speaker 6 (01:34:04):
I'm not sure I need to look at the injury
report that they threw out once.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
Yeah, I'm just wondering we're getting what was it a
fifteen dayer originally?

Speaker 6 (01:34:12):
Yeah, with the with the the blister. So I'm just listen,
I want to be right now. He threw a sim
game recently, so I.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
Was, so I don't know if he's here, if he's
down somewhere else, or he just letting it heal. But
I listen, A healthy and dominant Lance mccullors is big
for this team. I just don't know right now if
you're going to get that.

Speaker 6 (01:34:31):
They threw a four inning simulated game and an off
site facility.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
I don't even know what that means. Last Wednesday. I'm
a huge fan of his and I hope, but right
now I got to live on more than just hope. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:34:43):
Well, I mean, you need results, and at least this season,
it's been kind of inconsistent in that regard. Anthony and
deer Park. I see you want to get in on this,
Let's give you an opportunity. You want to join them?
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Speaker 10 (01:36:49):
Going non stop showing with former QB Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
I need play in Tuesday and Wednesday. Even that much
more I'm less is more in my opinion. But if
you get the sixteen teams, you can't go any more
than that, I would hope, and if you get to
sixteen teams, it's obvious that first and the only reason
I care about sixteen teams in it the only reason

(01:37:16):
I personally don't think the sixteenth ranked team in the
country can. I think they'd have a hard time rolling
through four games or whatever it would take to get there.
Is that what it would take. Let's see one in sixteen,
then there sixteen, you're down to eight, down to four
to yeah, four games, right, you're probably even ten, eleven,
twelve or having a tough one. There's no question just
on the sheer depth of a team. But listen, if

(01:37:36):
the sixteenth ranked team happened to be Georgia on a
bad year, well we're dealing with a different egg there, right.
If the sixteenth ranked team is no disrespect to Boise State, yea,
they may win one. They may win too. It's gonna
be hard to roll through there. Sure, It's just it's
like taking a twelve seed that can win two or
maybe one or two games. The chances of a twelve

(01:37:56):
seed winning the national championship in basketball going through six
of them. Eventually the depth of a team catches up
t unless I mean, I guess it can happen. But
hence why we only see it a couple times, a
sixteen beat to one. But to go through twelve, rolling
through six games in a basketball that's hard to do.
Just don't share talent alone. So with this the only
way sixteen games, which I do like, I want them

(01:38:19):
all to play all the games. Well, what's the advantage
then if you're the number one team in the country. Well,
we always have questions who the number one team is
because the committee's voting on that, So there's always going
to be we're your fair Is that the number one team?
Like right now, who is number one? Ohio State or Texas?
We know what the polls say, but are they number one?
Are there is the number you're gonna get somebody? No, no, no,
we should be number one. They're the reigning national champions.

(01:38:41):
Wait a minute, we got this team return we got
these many guys returning, or we're at a bigger conference.
You get those arguments for me once you get in
when they say, well, what's the advantage of being the
number one team? At the end of the year, you
get to play number sixteen. That's what the advantage is.
I want. That's the only reason I care about sixteen teams,
the sixteenth rand team meeting. If they upset the one
will not go on and win the National chams Haampionship
more than likely. I guess you can never say never,

(01:39:02):
but the chances are slim. But the sixteen team can
on the right day beat number one. Sure play it.
Forget buys. If you're going to sixteen teams, give me
all of them. We don't need to buy. And if
you get to sixteen teams, you shouldn't have a buy.
Let's go play, make them play them all, and let's
deal with the possible sixteen to one upset like we

(01:39:22):
do in college basketball. Past sixteen teams. It's over flooded.
It is not good, and putting thirty two teams in
there would be a monumental mistake. More often than not,
the talent wins out, and there is no especially in
more than one game, right and the depth of that
Georgia is going to be a lot deeper than Boise State, okay,
And the chances of them getting through Texas and Ohio

(01:39:45):
State and Georgia and Southern cal or LSU, that's a
that's a brutal it's tough enough to do that in
your own conference, let alone when you got sixteen teams.
So if you give me sixteen, get rid of bye
weeks and let's go play them all, all right?

Speaker 6 (01:39:59):
So do you want to give Anthony and John plenty
of time here? So we'll let you guys get your
chants here coming up? If you want to join them
Someone three next week, that's it, you know, it's seon
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do you want to wait bring in some of that
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that I saw yesterday and I was just like, oh,
I can't wait.

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It's a pain in the ask. But I'm sitting on
both sides and I know where you're going with this.
One is, I don't like the look. Two is it
has no effect if you know what I mean for sure,
So we'll talk about it here.

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The Sean Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
Dude, I have a salad. It's like with Sabbie dresses. Salad.
It is stupid, it's so friggin good. Oh dude, you
throw a jumbo shrimp cocktail or Seafood Tower, get that
salad with the bread they have there, and then you
get your steak or whatever, your cream corner or whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:42:52):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
I'm a big cream corner guy. I love the spinach
in the rest of it. But I'm just telling you
right now, well you can get any number of salads there.
That am with sabby salad, dude is you're like, you're
you're when you're done with it, You're like, do you
have to take the plate away? Can I lick it?
The dog does?

Speaker 7 (01:43:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Yeah, it's spectacular and he would tremendous. He would say
that too, and Michael Barry too. I need this at
the Lighthouse. Yeah, you know going over to Mastros Ramone, yay, Ramone.
You like that with sabby salad over there, dude, It
is so frigging good. So now I digress one day,

(01:43:30):
one day you want to do it. You gotta do
it to yourself. Yes, for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:43:33):
Someone three two one, two, five seven ninety the number
to get in, uh, Anthony and Deer Park.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
You're in Anthony, what's going on? Hey? Good morning guys.

Speaker 13 (01:43:42):
Hey, So I know with Christian Javier and Luis Garcia,
you know when they come back to the big league club,
they'll probably be on a hard pitch count regardless of
how the game flow is going. I was just curious
if you guys think, because Spencer's not coming back from
an elbow, if y'all think it'll be more based on
how Spencer's feeling himself and how the game flows going,

(01:44:05):
or if y'all think he will also still be on
a hard discount, like, hey, you're coming out at seventy
five pitches.

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
Yeah, it's a fair question. Appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:44:13):
I mean, probably to Anthony's point, not as much as
the other guys for that very reason, because I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
It's a fantastic point. Yeah, I would agree his was
just a freak injury.

Speaker 6 (01:44:23):
It was just getting the timing back, getting the feeling back,
all of those things to be able to try to
be an effective pitcher again. But I mean, at least
in the early going, just because he hasn't pitched on
since April, so about three and a half four months
that you've been away from the field, and you don't
want to just throw somebody in and say, hey, one
hundred pitches right here, go ahead, make the most of them,

(01:44:45):
because once you hit that hundred, then we're probably gonna
pull you. I don't think we're gonna be seeing that.
I think, at least in the early going. Now, I
think that probably you do trust him much more than
you trust the other guys.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
For that very reason, I would one hundred percent agree
that you'll get a better feel for him him than
than anything else you're doing on the decision, right, Yeah,
I mean, you know you're coming back from TJ and
we've seen it.

Speaker 6 (01:45:08):
I mean we saw it with Louis Garcia last year
where you thought, all right, he's gonna come back. Now
he had a set back, so it's not gonna happen
for him this year. And I mean he's scrapping and
clawing to even try to make it happen this year.
I mean we're already in August, so we see Louis
Garcia maybe what for a month?

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
I mean September? And I mean is that enough to
necessarily get a good enough read where you can trust
him in the postseason, let's hope. So, I mean it'd
be a massive I think I think a month for
me would be enough if he's to gauge where he's
at come postseason.

Speaker 6 (01:45:39):
I'd like to see him at the end of this
month though, to feel even better about one. So if
you get these two guys back, I mean, like I said,
arraghetti Wednesday, then probably on the homestand you're gonna get
Hobby air and then maybe even a week after that.
Maybe it's just kind of a revolving door at this
point of Hey, now here's JP France. Hey everybody, now
here's Louis Garcia. So and be a sight for sore

(01:46:01):
eyes for sure, John and Fresno wants to weigh in.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
John, good morning, there was.

Speaker 7 (01:46:05):
Gun old guys, I would set he'll thinking, you know,
I was just thinking about your don Everest, to be exact,
and I was thinking, you know, I look at Michael
Parson up there in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:46:16):
He wants money, ain't you know? All this here?

Speaker 7 (01:46:19):
And I was thinking that if you're done, we have
to agree that if he's healthy, he by one of
the top five left hand sluggers in the gap and
uh healthy and we already know how him not being
on the team how to effect the whole team as
a whole.

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
But I think going untill.

Speaker 7 (01:46:37):
I think you about the fifty low paid superstar in
the game. I'm wondering that if if they add a
couple of more, a couple of more, he rolls onto
his contract with that hend he'll faster. So my question
is to y'all, is that do you think healthy? You're

(01:46:58):
done to be paid like the number one superstar on
this team and I hang up with.

Speaker 6 (01:47:03):
This, I mean, in essence, is this a holdout? No,
it's not a holdout. I mean Ordon Alvarez wants to
be on the field. Ord On Alvarez wants to play,
and he agreed to the contract. He signed the contract.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
If you got a problem with it at the time,
then hold off, don't don't sign it. He got paid
a good amount of extension for when he got it.
But we all said, man, that's going to be a
bargain price as we move forward. If this on, if
this onslaught on opposing pitches and this ambush on apojing
pitchers continues, and his postseason, wow, there's no doubt that, man,

(01:47:37):
we're getting You're getting a great bargain for a guy
who not only is he one of the five best
left handed hitters, would he's right major League Baseball, the
players this is a top ten player with the bat
in his hand in Major League Baseball right or left handed. Yep. Now,
the injuries and stuff a little set back this year,
But John, I don't This has nothing to do with money.

(01:47:57):
This hold on and if he had an extra one
hundred million dollar he wouldn't be playing. Matter of fact,
he might be a little more careful because sos Jordon.
This isn't about now. At some point in time, those numbers.
If if he gets back to being Jordon, when the
next one rolls around, it's going to be big. And
if you're asking, if he's playing Jordon baseball, will he

(01:48:17):
be the highest paid player on this team? The answer
if they retain him, the answers on equivocally yes, it
won't be close. And tell well, if Cam Smith five
years from now or whatever, his deal comes up right,
so there's no doubt. But this is not about money.
If he was making Soto money, he still wouldn't be playing.

(01:48:38):
This has to do with getting him right and then
get him out there. But yeah, he's a monster and
everybody in baseball knows it. When he's right and on
the field, DH or no DH.

Speaker 6 (01:48:47):
When he's going, he is every bit of Otani, He
is every bit of Aaron Judge. He is every bit
of any of those good hitters that are out there.

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
When you put those numbers together, Dan of Jordon and say, okay,
I'm I'm drafting everybody's healthy in the league, and we're
going through just We're not worried about their position. We're
just taking our best hitters. You're not getting to ten
and Jorda not being mentioned. He he is going to
not just mentioned. He is going outside the top five. Yeah,

(01:49:17):
he is going to be picked. A healthy yord On,
you're going you're talking Otani Soto Judge. When Akun is
one hundred percent healthy, it's pretty damn good. Mookie Bets
is obviously you're with, but it's still right. I'm talking
about when they're right and doing their thing. Those are
hell even Trout when he's healthy. Right, but think about
think about this with Trout and Mookie Bets, we're actually

(01:49:41):
wondering are they top ten right now? You know? Maybe
not right now? You get my point. So you're not
getting through ten cats. And matter of fact, no disrespect
to cal Raley right now, if they were both healthy,
you're taking yord On ahead of cal Raley even even
though he should be an m VP. And it's that
a fantastic gear. So John, all that, but one's true.

(01:50:04):
Yes he would be the highest paid player. Yes, he's
a top ten player, top five player with a bat
in his hand. And the one that's not is this
has zero to do. Would he be back sooner if
he was making more money? This is and I'm sending
a message I want a new contract now. This is
because right now you'd say, we'll get on the field

(01:50:25):
and prove it and then we'll discuss it a couple
of years. He's under contract. This isn't about this. This
is about want to contribute, and I'm sure the frustration
for him is through the roof now when it comes
to pain threshold. I have zero idea what that is
for him, because we're not him. So that's something that
the team and only Jordan Alvarez knowes.

Speaker 6 (01:50:43):
Going through a hitting progression right now down in Florida.
So hopefully that will progress to him getting into some
games next week and then hopefully back with this team
sooner rather than later.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
I'll give you something alarming, you know, I like to
give you every week, maybe ah you wealth of useless
knowledge in baseball. I have to give you the bab
gives it real quick, since you brought his name up
on Tani as we go to break and we'll get
to Brad when we come back. As a pitcher, through
ninety one starts in his career, Nolan Ryan had six

(01:51:14):
hundred and seven strikeouts, Show Heyo Tani six hundred and eighteen,
Clayton Kershaw three point one six ERA, show Heyo Tani
two point ninety seven. As a hitter, Babe Ruth through
nine hundred and fifty five games, two hundred and forty
home runs, Show Heyo Tani two hundred and fifty seven

(01:51:37):
through nine hundred and fifty five games, Ken Griffy Junior
five hundred and fifty one RBIs, Show Heyo Tani six
hundred and twenty seven RBIs. So the point is, and
when you say that, say, well, okay, a lot of
you two starts. Then when you add it together, say
the guys that good at both Okay. So he does
more than just pitches every five days, and then d

(01:51:58):
h is the rest of the way. He's he's he's
an alarming skill set. He really is. I mean, I
see has come across. I'm always looking for Frank Tanana
fourteen straight complete games. These things not to comparison. Well,
they're softer there, just how numbers have changed over the
years and how good. I still think he's the most

(01:52:18):
unique athlete in the history of sports. Yeah, sorry, Bo,
Sorry Dion, Sorry, Jim Thorpe, Sorry Jim Brown. The most
unique athlete in the history of sports is this cat.
He's a large man too. Stood next to him at
the All Star Game, so didn't he he? Is he
a fifty to fifty or forty forty guy? I think
he was fifty fifty last right, fifty to fifty at

(01:52:39):
what sixty? Yeah, Yeah, it's just it's just I'm channing.
I like throw an appreciation out there for players no
matter where they play. The guy is sick when it
comes to skill set uncanny, that's for sure. Brad will
work you in.

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Speaker 3 (01:55:10):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
Brad wants to weigh in. Brad, good morning.

Speaker 11 (01:55:21):
You know, I haven't heard a word about Miguel you Lola,
and I think he's about done with Triple A and
he's done everything they've asked him. I don't know if
it's because of the six or seven year rule. But
they brought up the couple of position players that they
didn't care about that rule. So I was wondering about him.

(01:55:41):
And then if you're the manager and Parrettis does come back,
tell me what your lineup.

Speaker 6 (01:55:47):
Is, appreciate the call. I mean, well, actually, hold on,
hold on, hold on. So is this Parretti's playing third
or you got him somewhere else?

Speaker 1 (01:55:55):
Well, he's asking you where you'd put him in, where
you put him in the order. Okay, that's what Brad,
Thank you, I'll give you mine. Praydus comes back. Just
judging from what we know today, is in yourd uns healthy. Yeah,
he's in the lineup. Your your full strength, your full strength.

Speaker 6 (01:56:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:56:11):
Yeah. On the the the other eight I misunderstood. Yeah, Lena,
and good, good point. And I don't the first question asked,
I have no idea about what the answer is to
his question about Yeah, I don't. I mean, I don't
know why or why not. I I know who the
player is. I don't know enough about him, but I've
been three, three, five, five, e r A. He's pitched

(01:56:32):
well enough. But I think going deep in the games
is still an issue, so maybe a little bit more.
Se I've listened to people talk about him, so you
need to go look at a clip. Say, well, let
me who is this guy? You google him?

Speaker 12 (01:56:42):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
I don't know enough about him. I know how he's pitched.
But if you said, if he walked in the room
right now and said, Sean, can you give a fifteen
minute breakdown? I couldn't give you a five minute breakdown.
So it's great to hear. So I don't know. They
obviously just don't feel maybe what he's ready yet, Dan possibly.

Speaker 6 (01:56:57):
I mean I was seeing a lot of five and
the thirds, four nings, four and a third, three and
two thirds.

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
So but supposedly has a pretty bright future, correct, Yeah,
I mean they're high on him. That's that's all I
know about him. So I'll go to you know, I
guarantee you a guy like Brian McTaggert could probably tell
you every single thing about the guy. So but it's
nice to know and then at least to get a
feel for somebody that's at some point in time they
have plans for to get to the lineup. For me,

(01:57:23):
it would be it would be this is Jake Myers, healthy,
Jake Myers is healthy, okay, fully healthy. As you said,
Pain is leading off, AL two VE hitting second, or
I take that back, Paradius may be hitting second. AL
two VE hitting third. You're not hitting in the four
hole and d Hing my five hole hitter Sanchez maybe

(01:57:54):
lefty lefty though, that's what just say, so probably can't
and that's why I'm satting here thinking about a teeny catching.
There's Yiner Diaz catching Walker. That's that's who you put
in the five hole, Christian Walker's five. I would probably
say that if you go lefty, then you put Sanchez
at six in left field. Where's where's Korea? Did you

(01:58:17):
say Korea?

Speaker 12 (01:58:17):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:58:18):
Okay, I keep forgetting he's on the team. Dude, Okay,
let's backtrack here for a second. I'm so stuck on Paradis.
First of all, Paradis is playing second base. Yeah, okay,
Pain is leading off. Considering that Paradis is just coming back.
Corre is hitting in the two hole or Al two
V in the two hole, Korea in the three hole,

(01:58:38):
or you'red On in the three hole, Karrey in the
four hole. Does that make sense that one through four
is going to be if Korea keeps into this hard
and knowing his postseason chops and what he's about, one
is a no brainer. Painon the two, three, four, four
is either going to be Alvarez or Korea. I do
two Correy in the two hole and AL two A

(01:59:01):
in the three hole or vice versa. I go al
two A three, Okay, So you got Kara hitting two
correct or five? I go in five? Okay, So you
have then if they if you he's into two, who
you got hitting in the three hole? Al? Then who's
hitting too? Is okay? So you're going pratis a second
hitting two al twove in the three plane? Where's he

(01:59:22):
playing left field? What are you doing with Sanchez? Sanchez? Humm,
here's what's going to probably have to have see then
that's why I'm going through this. Brad asked a great question.
But come back, So if that's the case. If that's
the case, you probably have big brains on Brad. You
probably have to do this, dude. You probably have to

(01:59:43):
go Pena Correa at third, AL two A or you
go al twove hitting in the two hole, plan or
three playing second base. You get Sanchez gonna be in
a lineup. What if Korea? There's another way you can
use them. And as you mentioned, Korea in the five hole,

(02:00:07):
I like him better than Walker right now in the
five hole. But who's hitting second? That if Paradus isn't
in the lineup, who hits two? Let's get this going
in nine o'clock out because I'm true that we're sitting
in a roll and I forget about Korea because I'm
focused on praise. And we sat there and say we
got him a left field? Well were you putting? Uh uh?
Remember you said Myers was healthy as well. Sure, so
we're gonna have to manipulate this because it's a good

(02:00:29):
you know why we're so shocked by this. We haven't
had a problem of it's been too e we're just
using other people to do that is healthy. Yeah, I
do want to dive into this because I think it
makes for a good point. Somebody's sitting, yeah, and who's
the logical sit That's exactly right.

Speaker 6 (02:00:44):
That's a good place to be. It is Sean Salisbury Show,
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Paritis holding off on surgery on that hamstring, which would
have cost him six months, but instead taking a PRP
injection hopes of coming back this season. Will continue the

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conversation about him and the Astros here in just a
second in the Texans another day of training camp practice
from the Greenbrier.

Speaker 1 (02:01:53):
They're gonna open.

Speaker 6 (02:01:54):
Up preseason play Saturday in Minnesota against the Vikings. As
we continue to talk about it's Paratis and just this
lineup when he comes back, I think it's pretty obvious, Sean,
he's a bat off the bench if he if he
is back, and you do again too, Myers jord On
or if I'm leaving anybody else out there, uh, from

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the guys that that you expect to come back at
some point, but you would think, okay, you know, do
you put him over at third base still after that hamstring?
Are you tempting fate when you do that? And even
more you'd be doing it putting them at second. So
I don't I don't think either of those options are
available to you. And then the d H, well, then
that takes out Jordon unless you want to play him

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out in left field.

Speaker 1 (02:02:40):
I don't see them doing that. Well, it all depends
for for Paraitis second base, just how he feels. If
he says I'm one hundred percent healthy and all the movement,
the lateral quick twitch movement at second base getting the
then you know, then uh, you know, the the reaction
time with third base ball hitting so hard and you
know you got to go to your left and right high. No,
he's up because I think Corey is a better third baseman.

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I think you got a gold Glove third baseman waiting
to happen for me, I agree looking through this, Paradis
has to be your first bat off the bench, and
depending on matchups, you'll play him. You know, if at
a time maybe there's a matchup issue and you say
we're gonna move out, you know, out two eighty second base,
jord on to the left field, you're gonna D eight

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whatever it is, or play third. That's the matchup he
comes in or he's first got off the bench for
me and and he and Dubon give you a lot
of bandwidth there. Right, I'm leading off with PANMF. I've
thought about this and we may work the lineup in
different days, like joe Ah Spot has to. But Panya,
I'm hitting out two a second, playing him at second base.

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Alvarez is third. I want his battop. I don't need
him a fourth. I'm putting in Karre in the four hole,
and then I'm putting Sanchez at five to get a
left handed bat. Then I go back to Walker at
six or DZ whoever you decide it is swinging the
better at the time. Oh and let's not forget that
you got the left handed or switching in Victor Carrottini
coming off the bench as well. Carotini, Dubon and Paradis

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give you a pretty stout threesome.

Speaker 6 (02:04:10):
I'm gonna say that's that's not going John singletrespect to
John Singleton.

Speaker 1 (02:04:16):
That's deep in every single one of them. When they
get in the batter's box shape, they got a chance
to give us hit. So Sanchez fifth, left handed bat
Walker sixth, then seven, eight nine, it's hard to go lefty, righty, lefty.
Then I'm going Diaz depending on Carrotini's thing. Now, if
it was Krotini, you know he right or left, so
it doesn't really matter. But I'm going Walker in the
six hole, DZ seven, Jake Myers eight, Cam Smith ninth

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and playing right field or Jake, And I don't care
how you adjust those guys. But yeah, Painal too, ve Alvarez, Correas, Sanchez, Walker, Diaz,
Myers and Smith's that's my lineup. That's salty.

Speaker 6 (02:04:50):
I mean, that's that's a team that coming into the season,
you're like, man, where's the depth, Like where are we
going to find this thing? And all of a sudden,
just from moves made either from the trade Dudle line
or guys that were able to step up and fill
some of those roles this year. And oh, by the way,
I mean I don't even think we mentioned Taylor Tremmell,
No and your Tremmel is We've got to count numbers,

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and who's staying I mean Tremmel, it's uh, Chas McCormick,
and then you got maybe. But I'm just saying, now,
that's that's the that's where you because there's only so
much room, but you're.

Speaker 1 (02:05:26):
More spots to work with. That's right, And that's Kartini,
that's Dubond, that's Paradius when he comes back, and that
is that is Taylor Tremill.

Speaker 6 (02:05:33):
I agree, Yeah, I mean it's because I mean, especially
for a guy like Chaz, you got to prove that
we can use you and use you as not just
out in the field, using you is also at the plate.

Speaker 1 (02:05:45):
Right, So that's it. But I'm I'm quite comfortable with
a lineup that has pain you leading off, Altuve, Alvarez, Correa, Sanchez, Walker, Diaz,
Myers and camp Smith and seven eight nine. You got
DS who's above two fifty now pushing two sixty, starting

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to hit the ball better, driving it a little bit better.
Jake Myers is hitting three hundred plus. And then Cam Smith,
who's in you know, who's had his ups and downs
as a rookie, but gives you great speed and the
ability as a nine hole. Knowing that you're leading off
with Paynya next. That's so that's pretty formal. If my
knifef my seven eight nine is those three cats, I'm

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in pretty damn good shape. Brother, This is a pretty
damn good shape.

Speaker 6 (02:06:29):
This is all of a sudden two years ago when
you face the Rangers in the LCS, you're looking at
their lineup and you're like, God, they got those guys
batting seven eight nine right, and you've got the Astros
hitting these guys seven eight nine.

Speaker 1 (02:06:40):
You're basically batting six right. Right hander comes in bullpen,
ds is having a maybe as has against the starter
has struggod couple strikeouts, and you're in the seventh inning
or the eighth inning, and you need a left handed
bat because they're bringing in a right handed reliever. It's
not a bad deal to have Victor Tarantini ratey to

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to get to the place. You trust him much more
than you trust late innings to do it right. And
then you trust his back just as much, at least
in the that he's going to give you a great
at bat. So that gives you a really deep bench,
a versatile bench, because you got paratus who can play
more than one position. We know Tremel can play a
couple outfield positions. You have Kroten, you can play first base,

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DH and catch, and then well, camp Smith is a
right field or right field right and if you're going
to the bench, and who'd I leave out on that
bench Tramuel Dubon, Well, you can play he pretty much
put him anywhere you want.

Speaker 6 (02:07:34):
But Catcher, here's the other one too that you have
to consider. And this might mean that it's a decision
between them and Dubon.

Speaker 1 (02:07:42):
You're EUS club control and you know, it's crazy. We
haven't even said his name. I know, and he plays
gold glove defense. Yeah, but how is he and my
when I'm putting my best lineup on the field, where's
he planned? I mean, where is he playing right now?

Speaker 6 (02:08:01):
I was gonna say, because I mean, you don't need
a late any replacement over at third.

Speaker 1 (02:08:04):
I mean, I I want to see over how he
works out. You got to win a crow in the long
I'm talking about if you need a lineup to win
a game, and it's the it's the winning. Everybody's healthy,
and you got a three game series. You got to
win two out of three, and everybody's at your disposal
depending on the matchup of who the picture is and
what you're facing my lineup, I'm not replacing anybody out

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of my lineup.

Speaker 6 (02:08:27):
Garrett Two's gonna get DFA from this roster again, and
it's going to be able to help somebody else.

Speaker 1 (02:08:32):
Yes, That's what I'm saying. So I mean, are you
taking pains? Obviously you're not getting rid of Altuve, Alvarez
and Kray are going to be your first four in
my opinion. Then you go Walker, Sanchez, I mean Sanchez Walker,
you know Diaz, and you've got Keratini if you need
Dubond can come in here and hit all the way
from first to second to eight the ninth. Cam Smith's

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your right field or you know what you got in
the future there. Jake Myers has had a phenomenal year
when healthy, depending on how long he's out. Now, assuming
if Myers wasn't in the lineup, now you got to
make some adjustments. You'd put Boom. Now you got to
mix and match out two. V probably is back in
left field. Is eu Reus your second basement and you

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move Tremail if you need a guy in SAA. Does
he play center field for it?

Speaker 6 (02:09:18):
Eurius is one of those guys that if he starts
to come around at the bat, you're gonna have to
really think hard about it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:22):
Right So, because you got to defend the baseball as
well as we know very much it's important here, so
especially that time of the year too, but if I'm
lining up, you're going to have to do a lot
to prove to me that my nine that I got
for a must win. You can shuffle if you want,
Alvarez in the four hole in Karrey and the three,
or Karray and the two and al two A and
three and you're on in four. I don't care. I

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know who my first four hitters are, in my opinion,
and then you adjust it if you want to go lefty, righty,
however you want to do it. But that lineup right there,
and think about it. Eureus, Dubond, Trammel and parade is
can't start for me. It's pretty crazy to say. Now,

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think about this conversation a month ago we're having like,
oh my gosh, we scrambled around. Now, think about the
good that if this can have. Think about what it
could look like feasible. It's very feasible too. Getting closer,
think about what the lineup could look like, and think
about how Tremuel I mean not Tremmeel, but Sanchez and
Correas being here, the depth that they've added to a

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lineup that you were begging for depth a month ago,
and you may have too much of it. A good
player is not going to be on this roster at
the end more than likely. I would even say two. Yeah,
there's a really good chance to because you also got
a load up on pitching. Dude, you've got to have
your pitching. So it is. It's interesting. But now that
becomes seven, eight, nine are pretty good. I can get
back to number one and get through this to where

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my guy's leading off or we're already the pain you
comes up, and now the leadoff hitter in the in
inning two is ol Tuva or inning seven or any eight, right,
So I can win with that, and then the pitching
staff gets healthy, formidable, if not the best all around
lineup and pitching staff in the American League if they're right.
I know Detroit will have an argument. I get it.
But if you get if you get those guys back

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and Arraghetty, he's doing his thing, and and Javier, we're
looking at it at a whole different egg and this
team's already in first place.

Speaker 6 (02:11:20):
Pretty tough for fire Dana Brown guy, especially when you
factor in how this team has been built on the
fly this year.

Speaker 1 (02:11:26):
And that's yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 (02:11:30):
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He talked about riding hot in the city, living in
New York and partying with the Stones.

Speaker 1 (02:11:55):
That's the hell of a party, I would imagine in
their prime.

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And then another one was drinking whiskey with them out
of the bottle, of course. And I forget what song
he said that was that was for, but I was like, man, yeah,
he's probably Jagger and the group Rebel Yell. Yeah, because
I think they think because I think the whiskey was
called Rebel Yell.

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Oh, okay, there we go. Yeah, that's a that's a
pretty good if you're gonna if Billy idol is gonna
idolize somebody, and it's the Stones, that's not a bad group.

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That was my That was my last concert before we
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winners last night eight too over the Marlins in Miami.

Speaker 1 (02:12:37):
He sacked.

Speaker 6 (02:12:37):
Peretti's gonna take an injection already, already has in that
hamstring in hopes of holding off surgery and playing again
this season. And the Texans back on the practice field
for another day of training camp out at the Greenbrier. So, Sean,
me and you both saw this, and I'm sure some
of you have too. That Cowboys coach Brian Schottenneimer, I
guess at the podium yesterday wearing his visor backwards as he's.

Speaker 1 (02:13:01):
Meeting with the media.

Speaker 6 (02:13:02):
Yeah, and it's one of those another county heard from.
Our good buddy Colin Cowherd decided he wanted to wait.
He is so caught quarterbacks and coaches. He's caught up
at this. He really picks the most interesting hills to
die on. I'll just say that before I read the quote.
You know, I don't like backwards hats. You know what
is worse a backwards visor. That's a two win team.

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I'm taking away four wins. That's awful. That's so bad.
So I know everybody gets mad at this. I only
really care. For instance, BAK of America is behind him.
It's a big sponsor. I do think if you are
a quarterback or a head coach of an organization, you
do a press conference, you're not only representing yourself, You're
representing Dallas Cowboys, representing bave A. It's probably a huge

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team sponsor that probably paid eight million bucks or something
like that to the Cowboys, so some big money.

Speaker 1 (02:13:50):
My response to that is, who cares. It's training camp.
It's training camp.

Speaker 6 (02:13:55):
It's a somewhat relaxed atmosphere because, yes, you are getting
ready for the season.

Speaker 1 (02:14:00):
All of that.

Speaker 6 (02:14:01):
I don't think that Brian Schottenheimer is going to fail
this year because he wore a backwards advisor. I think
he's going to fail because well, he's not really that
good of a coach. And when you carry a name
like Schottenheimer, you think that one way or another.

Speaker 1 (02:14:12):
Somewhere along the.

Speaker 6 (02:14:13):
Line, Jim tom Sulla was a head coach in the NFL.
For god's sakes, Listen, David Cully was a head coach
in the NFL. For God's sakes. This guy's been around
it for about twenty five years. Don't you think you
would have gotten a job.

Speaker 1 (02:14:25):
There's similaryers to this. First off, God rest his soul.
I loved Marty Schottenheimer. I was able to work with
him at ESPN, covered him when I did stuff when
he was a coach in Kansas City, and Marty was
always good to me. He want to talk about one
of the all time grinders. Marty had a phenomenal career.
Brian Schottenheimer's good football coach. If you remember the last

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time the Jets were in an AFC championship game, who
their coordinator was, Yeah, it him. They wanted to run
it and they wanted to play defense, and Rex Ryan
was head coach and Brian Schottenheimer's had one of the
best run games in football, and he wants to do
that in Dallas. Want to be physical and run it.
They don't have the personnel to do that right now.
Run it. They just don't. So if he's going to

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die on that sword, then it's going to be trouble
because they're not a dominant physical team on the office
kind of like we've seen here. They got some fixing
to do up front and in their run game, and
they don't have a state. They don't have Joe Mixon
or they don't have Nick Chubb in their lineup. So
that's neither here nor there about the Cowboy or even
Damian peers. That's exactly right. I'm going to tell you this,

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Brian Schottenheimer, this is Jerry Jones mo. He has not
hired a Wow Factor head coach since Jimmy Johnson. Now,
Bill parts Ells, did we talk about this yesterday? No,
it was okay. I did talk about this on a
show another show, And like I said, tell me the

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last time he hired a coach, it was like a
needle mover. I'm not saying not good coaches. Listen, Wade
Phillips hell of a coach. Jason Garrett was with his
guy and waiting, but I wouldn't consider him a great
head coach. Great job, guys, great job. And you know
you know there with Wade Phillips, Wade Phillips belongs to

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the Hall of Fame as a defensive coordinator. He we
we should be putting assistants in the Hall of Fame.
We found that out here. Wade's on the short list,
but his head coach is Garrett, Dave Campbell, Switzer got built,
he got Jimmy Johnson's team, and Barry was a good coach,
but at that point in time, immediately a blind dumb
and definitely, I mean all of us could have could
could have gone outway with that that group. Barry just
had to make sure he stayed out of the way,

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coach him and get some light And like I said,
you know how my affinity for Switzer, love it. But
that was still Jimmy's team when Jimmy Johnson left. Why
Jerry's never going to be challenged is who the I'll
say it again. If you're the face and the name
and the face and the voice of an organization as
an owner, your team is not going to be good.
The head coach can be the face and the name.

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Name me one that's won a championship. Gimmey. I've said
it before George steinbern it was on his last year
before he passed away. They've kind of moved on into Cashman,
into to hal Steinbrenner, Name me one. Where an owner
was the face in the name of the organization, I mean,
maybe the voice, but I mean you never even doctor Bust,
never did Jemmie Bust Knott. That's no magic Johnson, Abdul

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doctor Bus. Matter of fact, of all owners, he was
a non medal. Jerry West was even a not the
face in the name of the organization, although maybe at
that point time, the best GM on the planet in
any sport. Jerry Jones. The reason why Jerry will not
allow somebody. That's why Jimmy the ego is the reason
Jimmy wasn't there. And then he tried Bill saw Parcels.
But Bill was at the end of his career the

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coaching part of it right, and so he really didn't
get that Parcels. He got him that was the last
powerful voice. But Jerry think about his hires now, good
great assistance head coaches that are yes men. He's not
all the opportunity. He wasn't gonna hire Deon. Deon Sanders

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has too much voice. He wasn't gonna Brian Schottenheimer's the
perfect coach for him. He's not gonna say he's not
gonna challenge authority. I'm going to do the press conferences
after games. I'm going to be the face, the name
and the voice behind it, not just the marketing and
the GM. And Brian's gonna just fit right in. He's
not gonna bitch me about personnel decisions. He's not gonna

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beat down my door about Michael Parsons. He's just gonna
sit back and he's gonna coach football and he's gonna
get out of the friggin way. That's who Jerry is.
And that's why you don't see the top name getting
if they get interviewed. It's just for the pub because
he likes us. He loves this Michael Parson stuff. Why
because it's driving eyes and ears to him. Because during
training camp, everybody's talking about everything but no, and Jerry's

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gonna get it done. Michael Parsons is going to play
for the Cowboys and he's going to be the highest
paid non quarterback in NFL history more than likely. That
being said, Jerry loves this why because every day we're
talking about him. That's part. That's his marketing expertise, the
fact of the matters. He should not be the voice
or the face of this franchise. And he is like,
he's just not going to hire if Demiko Ryans is

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the face of this franchise right now and CJ eventually
that's okay. He's the coach, coach, I'm good, not the owner.
And Jerry, Jerry, he wears too many hats and he's
having a hard time with the general Anders hat, let alone,
the marketing hat, the owner's hat, the assistant coach's hat,
all those things that go with it, the negotiators hat.
So when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys and hiring

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that coach, there's a reason why they hire Brian Schottenheimer.
He fits the perfect not too powerful, great pedigree, first
time head coach, and I can control him if I'm
Jerry Jones now to the colin. But Brian Schottenheimer's not
losing games because his hat's backwards exactly. But there's I

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hate to admit this, okay, because I like, listen, who
doesn't wear their hat. I don't like hat backwards guy
on the golf course or with Little League baseball guy
learned to do it right when you're Ken Griffy junior,
where you're hat backwards any day. Because there is a part,
there is a part of me and I'm listen, dude,
the hot takes you know, I don't do this, but
there's a part of me that when it comes to

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hat backwards guy at a press as a head coach,
let's just stick to the coach. I forget the quarterbacks
champ press conference advisor hat backwards sometimes upside down. I
get what he's talking. Listen, what did the what did
comedians say? I what comedian was this? I can't remember
who was I understand was that? Chris Rock said, I understand,

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but basically I don't get it. But I do understand.
I do understand what Coward's saying here because I too.
The only guy that can pull off hat backwards coach
right now, and I don't even know if I like
him as a coordinator. Was Dan Quinn and Dallas, he'd
be up there hat backwards. And I think a lot
of that has to do with Dan Din'd like the
brim getting in the way he studying his play sheet.
But Andy Reid, I'm just I'm not and that I

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it's gonna have any difference in wins and losses because
it's not. It's like the guy who's super STITIU. If
you eat steak before a game, but I haven't eat
Hamburger one time. You're not gonna play poorly just because
of Hamburger. Now, if you, in your own mind have
beat yourself up, then I didn't eat steak. I'm gonna suck.
You'll probably suck, but no, it's you're not gonna winn
lose games. But I do. The appearance for me does
matter and hell, think about all the flak Belichick could

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for cutoff sweatshirt as a head. Gawhy isie wearing? People
dogged him all the time about that. It doesn't look
coaching style, you know, people wanted. But I don't mind
the training camp. You're right relaxed. We're going into a
work what's that clinging on the table? Oh it's a
championship ring. Oh why Belichick and dress that. I agreed.
I agree with all that, but there is a part
of me that I said when I saw Schottenheimer, I

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swear to you, when I saw Brian's hat backwards visor guy,
the thought I was in over his head trying to
be a football boy cool, you know, like like the
like you'll see on the show with Stak with the
when the Golf show. Oh then when the when the
lady says I can't stand golf bros. You know those

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guys the shirts on tucked on a private course. I'm
just saying what they said on the show, right Well,
And he looked like, Brian, you're turn the hat around,
take it off, put the visor on normal like Gruden
would do. I get it. And it's it's such a
it's such a such a ticky tack thing. But for me,
I do because I go back and you probably shouldn't.

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Times change, but they don't have to change. I can't
picture Tom Landry or Chuck Knowle or Andy Reid hat backwards.
Visor guy. I don't mind it against wearing all the time.
I get it. It's a young thing. And so the
problem is, isn't Brian fifty somewhere in the fifties or
pushing it problem? Not that not that age matters on
hat back either, but in his position, it almost feels

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like I don't need to be one of the guys.
I'm actually their head coach that Michael Parsons can wear
his hat backwards in a postgame interview or and it's
it's such a silly thing, but it does. It's not
old or young. I don't give it. If you there's
some guys who look pretty cool in a seventy year
old that can wear a hat backers like you, cool bastard.
But there is right, There is right to get the

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brim out of the way. But there is something about
the presentation that I do think matters. It does, and
I'm with Coward on one thing. I don't like to
see Brian Schottenheim with his visor turned backwards. As a
head coach. I know even on the field, just flip
you wouldn't have a problem with the visor. Flip it forward.
Is it a big deal? No, but it isn't. We
all have our little quirks. And it does bug me

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because I think with this guy with this guy, with
this guy with this guy, And the answer is probably not.
But he doesn't have to be like them. Go win
and nobody will care. But I do get why it
bothers him a little bit, because it bothers me. The
visual is not gonna have any effect on how they play.
They're just gonna get their as kit because they're not
very good. If they lose.

Speaker 6 (02:23:49):
That's the way it's work, and that's that's what it's
gonna come down through. There's just not a very good
football team. That's why they're gonna lose games.

Speaker 1 (02:23:55):
It's not gonna because the head coach wore his hat
advisor backwards. Hard for me to want to up what
he said about it because it's such a something he
says it doesn't believe it. But I did say that
I looked at it, so I didn't say they're gonna lose,
But I thought, you don't need to turn the hat round.
That was my first three even just take it off
through all the sweat, because yeah, you'll be fine. Backwards visors.

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I think we'll goofy as is right. Backward visor guy
all the time is like, you're trying too hard, dude.
That's the problem now is you're trying way too hard
now to look the part you don't need to. I
just love that.

Speaker 6 (02:24:31):
Andy Reid's nickname with the players up there in Kansas
City is Big Red. Like I love, I love it.
That's his nickname. I'm like, you see him on the
sidelines and you're like, oh, I get it.

Speaker 1 (02:24:40):
Yes, Big Red, who probably wants to come over eat
meat loaf and mashed potatoes in your house on a
Sunday for Sunday dinner. Yeah, that's him and what he
has their quirks, that's I do get it. Although it's
not going to make a difference in a game. I
want to talk some twelve personnel. Oh you know, they
think I just want to enjoy this mule. All right.

Speaker 6 (02:24:58):
It is the Sean Salisbury Show. He on a Tuesday.
Let's continue the football conversation because an interesting story about
a former Texan, but I think it says something about
another former Texan. We'll talk about it here, and this
is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:25:12):
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Speaker 6 (02:26:52):
And the Sean Salisbury show continues cause Laramie Tunsel, we
know he's not here any more. The Texans trying to
find their offensive line, Cam Robinson going down and practice
yes day. Gonna have to see what the deal is
with him. But remember over the offseason, there was that
report from the league meetings in March that the offensive

(02:27:13):
line room for the Texans was toxic last year. Borderline
toxic were the words used. Well a story published on
Monday in The Washington Post, Adam Kilgore talking with Tunsell
and also catching up with Chris Strasser, who was the
offensive line coach last year, and with tunsall.

Speaker 1 (02:27:33):
Where is Strawser now? Did he he was going to retire?

Speaker 6 (02:27:37):
So I think that once he was bounced, he was
just like, all right, that's retirement, I'm out of here. Well,
Tunsell responding to it talking with kil Gore didn't make
me feel that way because our room wasn't like that.

Speaker 1 (02:27:48):
Did we play well?

Speaker 3 (02:27:49):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:27:49):
Did? Did CJ get sacked a lot? Yes?

Speaker 6 (02:27:53):
I see where the rumors could be made up and
come from. But I feel like we had a in
his words, great ass room. Well, Strausser did not quite
see it that way, as he caught up with Kilgore
as well. I don't think our room was good last year.
It was a combination of a lot of things. By
no means Laramie being the issue or the main issue

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one of them, but it was a combination of many things.
And here's where it gets really good for me. A
lot of guys trying to figure out an offense that honestly,
we weren't that well educated in. So again, it wasn't
Laramie Tunsel. It was a guy calling your plays last
year that Sean I said at the time, I said

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it even after he was fired, and this just goes
ahead and proves it even more. You're in year two,
Why is your offense tough, Bobby slowick, and why couldn't
you explain it? And why couldn't you coach it? That's
why you're not in a job. This isn't about tunsl
this isn't about Strausser. It's about that line right there.
An offense that honestly guys were trying to figure out

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and weren't that well educated.

Speaker 1 (02:29:00):
It did in year two. So it didn't surprise me
that every single week, because.

Speaker 6 (02:29:06):
There is a little bit of gift for gab that
is needed if you're an offensive coordinator, and every single
week was slow. It seemed like you could ask him
the most innocuous question and you were just gonna get
utter words salad for two and a half minutes. Because
why people on the radio, people listening on the radio
right now can't see what I'm doing, but I'm motioning
that I got water above my head.

Speaker 1 (02:29:25):
He was in way over his head. Okay, so what
do you say about year one?

Speaker 6 (02:29:32):
Obviously the offense was well enough where you didn't get
too into the weeds, and you didn't, you know, start
to overthink yourself and.

Speaker 1 (02:29:39):
I think your silky quarterback and let it rip. And
it got two year two and the expectations went up
and he was in over his head. Then here's I
disagree on. It's not Tunsil, it's not Strausser, it's only
Bobby Sloweck. First off, I know this in quarterback rooms
I've been in. If the offensive coordinator is teaching something
that is not sound or is it teaching it properly

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our quarterback coach, and we took care of with the
way it's supposed to be in our room. You're responsible
for your room, and then you elevate the people. Brandy,
you can't elevate the people around you until you do
your job first. So slow was he a problem? Yes,
and he's out, there's no doubt. Was it too complicated?
Did he not teach it well? Did he just put
up on the board? Did he did he not teach it?
Then expect his assistants coaches to teach it and he

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just oversaw it and called it and expect them or
called plays. They didn't work on it. All those things, Yes,
fired right, But as an offensive line coach, and I've
been with him, you may not get what you want
from the coordinator, but if you know what you're running,
you go in there, and you guys handle your business
in that room, you don't really well, I confess it's
it got to be slow ex fault because well, it

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wasn't a good room and we didn't really know what
we were teaching and we're kind of lost to it.
Then you go in and teach it like you know
how to teach it if you're teaching a red So
he was a problem too because he allowed what's happening
outside his room affect what goes on inside his room.
So he was part of the problem. Well, and nobody
on the planet is going to tell me that Tunsell
wasn't a problem. I don't care if Bobby Slok couldn't

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call a play out of his ass. And at times
it felt like that when you're in your three point
stance or in your two point stance, Bobby Slowick wasn't
responsible for the cadence and you jumping off side fourteen
times pre snap. So while I understand it, and there's
some wrong, see, it's usually somewhere in between. Strawser didn't
like it, Tunsell did, current players didn't. The problem is

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this Bobby Slock wasn't a great teacher and then he
became an average play caller. Strawser didn't say, I'm going
to put that out. I've got to direct. I've got
to take care of my guys in the room to
make sure they're at least doing their gig to give
us a chance, because if they're not, nobody else has
a chance anyway. And Laramie Tunsell for us to just
give him a complete halles, good player when the ball snapped,

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Larimie Tunsel, more than any lineman in the NFL last year,
put his team in a pre snap buind more than anybody,
more than anybody, has absolutely zero to do with the
snap count and him getting off because he's just impatient.
It isn't paying attention. So he is a big problem
last year and they should have traded him and now

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he'll be I think he's a great upgrade for Washington.
He's a hell of a talent and a player, but
you can't give him that Hall pass and you can't
give Strausser because the ol I confess I'm the quarterback coach,
but the coordinator's teaching it wrong. Well, then you get
your ass in there and you fix it. That's what
I do with my room. I'm responsible for Stroud and
Mills and anybody else that's on that roster in that room,
and then we'll expand it out. But to give me

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and Brian Billick wasn't responsible for me throwing the ball
to the wrong guy. That was on me. And if
I didn't like to play, switch it and have the
balls to do it, or check down or go over
there and say cuss each other out on the sidelines
or locker room and get it fixed. But the part
of the reason they weren't any good at the end
last year or they had to fight and we say
wasn't any good they won the division is that's the problem.

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Fourteen guys teaching seven different things room and teach it
and then well, bitch later. But none of those guys
are free from criticism Tunsel Strausser or slowk. Hence why
all three are playing somewhere else or not playing at all.

Speaker 6 (02:33:11):
I think a question was the answer, and we'll discuss here.
It is a Seawan Salisbury show.

Speaker 3 (02:33:16):
We want Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (02:33:21):
I think the question that was answered was what was
the accountability last year? That's kind of as you were talking,
I started to think. I was like, okay, so maybe
that was the issue. Is that, Yeah, you're you're oc
And there's probably even in that meeting room of hey,
don't listen to that guy.

Speaker 1 (02:33:36):
He doesn't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 6 (02:33:38):
Have you ever heard the story that's out there about
Ozon at LSU where he.

Speaker 1 (02:33:42):
Had told which one he had told? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (02:33:45):
He had told Dave Randa, Hey, I want you to
fix this, this and this, and Aranda would then turn.

Speaker 1 (02:33:49):
Around the coordinator.

Speaker 6 (02:33:51):
Yeah, and then when when Ojean would leave the room
and he'd say, don't fix anything, like we're we're good.
That does happen on a coaching staff like where it's
just you know, are you guys doing this? We running enough?
Twelve personnel? Yeah, yeah, coach, we're doing well. I want
to see more. We're not running more. Yes, We're just
gonna run the same amount that we do.

Speaker 1 (02:34:08):
Listen, Sometimes you have to know what to soak in
and what to leave alone. Coaches are around, they do
it all, they trust them. That happens, You're exactly that
happens more than you think where that go would come
in out. I want to do this great and you
just do the same thing. Coach is excited, he's got
a lot on his mind, and you go in there,
see how you thumb up the coach because he's your boss.
And then when he leaves the room, it's like, just

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keep doing what we're doing. I'll handle that part of it.
And then it's just handled because you're just moving on
to the next game plan the rest of it. So
happens all the time. But accountability is important, and this
team has it. Hints why if you're not having accountability.
Demiko Ryans is replacing and you know, one thing's interesting
we can talk about tomorrow Dan with this lineup, we
talked about that if they're healthy, what would your lineup be?

(02:34:51):
You know who most people have left out of the lineup,
which is interesting conversation. They want parade us in. They're
moving it around. You know who they're taking out of lineup?
Camp Smith interesting and that's who they've taken out of there,
our friends and some great interesting stuff I saw on Twitter.
Yeah that we're directed in saying the similar line up
stuffs in batting order, but that they'd have Smith out

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and Paradus in just how however you move it, but
not Paradus in right field, but how you'd move the
lineup thing around? Interesting worth talking about tomorrow. Are we
at that point if Paradus was back? Would cam Smith
be off the bench instead of Paradis because of the
position he plays until you move somebody like Sanchez to
right field, Alt to Vada, left, Myers to center and
then Paradis at second base. Interesting.

Speaker 6 (02:35:36):
The post and pre show here on the Sewan Salisbury
Show always on social media, but for Sean Triple, Emmanuel Elmore,
Dan Matthews, we will talk to you in twenty hours.
The Matt Thomas Show with Ross is next

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