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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Shawburysbury Hot.
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Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.
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To usc Troup's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
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Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
To do this series on the ground with Chuff usually
a good idea taking on tacklers.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We'll push that pile all the way to the thirty
yard line.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
No whistle can Nick Chubb forceful one.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Let's see where the officials will mark this one down.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's gonna be a run of eighteen and a first
down by Chubb.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
I'm such a big fan of Nick Chubb.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Suck it down at six Chub again, Shock's got the
first down.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Colonel's other defender inside that time, touchdown Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
The Browns are on the board thirty three yards for
Nick Chubb. But this ny you see sitting.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Up the nights in a puddle for Nick Chubb.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Went up, but Mike Hill and I've got fourteen.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
High fly ball way back Josh.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Never all the way to the wall and it's a
walk off.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
Crab swam and on a wild night here at Chase
Field and the diamondback saw for nothing to out ninth
in a lead Spanish They went at eight to four.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
And that is how we start this morning. Away we
go and good morning here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
No Astro scheme last night.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
So Nick Chubb highlights for you because he has signed
with the Texans on a one year, two point five
million dollar deal, could be upwards of five million. But
while you were sleeping, the Astros were able to create
some space between them and the Mariners. You've heard Steve
Berth Hume on the Diamondbacks TV call with the Josh
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Naylor walk off there in the bottom of the eleventh
they beat the Mariners eight to four. So the Astros
sean interplay today, three games up on the Mariners for
first in the AL West.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, good to talk to you, man. It's always nice
to gain ground or excuse me, extend to your ground
when you're not playing. It's always a good thing. So
they'll take that get back to work, White Sox plan better.
But it should be a good start to a series
for the Astros. And yesterday's signing, if Nick sub stays healthy,
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which I'm assuming he will, will prove to be a
very underrated signing in the NFL this year. The division
all across the board, I think it's a great junior
get and having to Nick Chubb as a part of
it makes everybody better offensively, I assure.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
You yeah, And I mean as me and you talked
about yesterday with Chubb, it's not about, you know, is
he still the player of the past. I mean, you know, Sean,
I've talked about it numerous times. It's not about him
being that guy anymore. He's not being asked to be
the primary guy. He's being asked to bring some of
his physical running style be somebody who can be a
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compliment at this point, and who knows. I mean again,
he's betting on himself. The Texans are betting on him
that this could be kind of an even more extreme
version of when George Fans rejuvenated his career here in Houston.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh. I would say it's a much bigger deal than that,
meaning you get a guy who's going to have to
be probably will be more impactful or at least noticeable
because he plays the position that we see. You know,
he's a perimeter guy. So I don't even think it's
a rejuvenation of his career. I mean, yes, it's a
comeback because of the injury, but when the guy's been
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on the field, it's never he lost his skill set.
So if I'm him, I prepare that well. You know,
I know we got two backs here, guys that have
had Pro Bowl, top caliber seasons in their career, and
he and Joe Mixon. But I don't think Nick Chubb's
coming into this thing. It's just gonna be, my opinion,
be a great teammate. He's not a talker, as we've
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talked about yesterday. I think he'll prepare the shoulder any
load they give him. And so while yeah, he may
not have to be the Nick Chubb that was a
Pro Bowl caliber player, he still may be. Or the
time when an injury to the lower half, notwithstand SAMs,
maybe a achilles. And even if it is, the way
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these guys come back from this stuff's phenomenal. Nick Chubb's
not forty. I mean Nick Chubbs still got game in it.
So I don't think this is just a guy that
signed it. And what's the risk two and a half
million bucks in an NFL where rookies damn near make
a million or what's seven hundred thousand a year, they
can't the rookie, you can't make anything less now or whatever.
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It is six hundred and seven to fifty. So you're
paying a veteran, former Pro Bowl type player. It was
a bel cow back just two and a half years ago.
This kind of money, that's not that I mean, this
is basically that stuff you need. Oh he's a camp guy.
This is not a camp guy. And they know this.
I'm just telling you his game's not gone. The injury
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got lost in the shuffle. All the bad quarterback play Cleveland.
It's easy to get lost in the shuffle there because
of the way their football franchise has been. Nick Chubb's
a good football player, and it is nice that he
can ease his way in without having to be the guy.
But I don't think you should. I don't think when
you turn on your television and watch him, or you
go in personal watch him, you're gonna be saying, oh, yeah,
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that's a guy who's lost three steps. I think it's
gonna be quite the opposite. And I think Nick Chubb
will go in and prepare like he's the starting running
back even though he's not. We know that. But I
think Texans fans can be rest assured that you're not
just getting a guy. They're like, man, we got an
old and beat up running back room. That's not the
case here. Now. You hope both guys can stay healthy,
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but this is a physical running back group with both
with great pride, the two guys up front who can
carry the load. I think you're going to see more
from Nick Chubb than you expect.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Well, and you know, I saw and I don't remember
who said this yesterday on Twitter, so sorry if I
can't give proper credit, but their point was think of
the cam Akers move last year and what you were
able to do with cam Akers. You were able to
trade him for draft capital in the middle of the season.
So it's the same deal here in Chubb. I mean
you mentioned it. He's not even thirty yet. He's going
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to turn thirty in late December this year, so I
mean he's still somebody that could have a lot of football.
And I mean, Sean, this might be extreme, but I'll
throw it out there. I mean, what were people saying
last year about Derrick Henry when he got to the
Baltimore Ravens, wondering if he still had it in him?
I mean, you know, I all right, well, the Titans
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are moving on from him. Does that necessarily signal that
his best football is behind him.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Couple down because I mean average years for him weren't
very good. No quarterback protection, meaning it was the running
back or bust, because they weren't very good at that position.
They were starting a rookie and they had another young
player in They were just won't very good. And when
you're reliant on Derrick Henry, you knew that, and he was.
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You know, all those carries that up you think, well,
there's too much, you know, tread taking off the tire. Well,
they went to a team that's got a quarterback that's
a dual threat, you got offensive line, they draft, Well,
it's a great organization. Also he had to do is
do is say you saw hell as good at Nick
as good as Derrick Henry as we've seen, who for
half the season was an MVP candidate. And if it's
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not for him, I mean Lamar had another great year,
but he added to it. So that's exactly that's a
that's a that's a close comparison because and like you said,
he's not even thirty yet. He'll be thirty when the
season is just about done, So there's still football on
those legs and probably a little more traction than Henry
we would have thought going in because Henry's taking more
hits in his career. And then did a bigger workload
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because even in Cleveland he was able to share some time,
was Nick Chubb. So yeah, and Henry and look look
what it did. You got him with Lamar Jackson, a
great organization, boom revitalized in a phenomenal season. Well, sa
Kwon Barkley even though younger version goes to the Eagles
phenomenal season, even though he's young and wasn't hurt. Just
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change the scenery and hubbu change the scenery. But a
healthygy and all that hard work in the offseason. I
think you're going to see him. It may not be
the same season because he won't be the feature back
like a Henry or a Sakwon Barkley, but he's an
ankle turn away from being the feature back. That's what
he is. And then one of those guys have in
common Hurts quarterback, Lamar Jackson quarterback, Stroud quarterback, meaning all
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three really good. We always talking about the back making
the quarterback better. Well, great quarterbacks make backs better. Why
just because the bandwidth of a football field and especially
with that quarterback. In the case of Hurtz and Lamar
Jackson are dual threat quarterbacks and can pull down and
run for one hundred and twenty five yards in a
game and underrated feet is C. J. Stroud. This is
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nothing but a good ad. There is no risk. The
guy's a good guy. There's no locker room trouble, there's
no headache. He goes to work, he does his gig.
He wouldn't have signed if he didn't understand what his
role was coming in, but won't he feels like one
of those guys that won't accept I mean, he'll accept it,
but won't be content just coming off the bench and
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being you know, spelling Joe Mixon. They can push each other,
both physical players, which add to a culture shift offensively
for this team, and everybody else will buy in. I
just I don't know what's not to like about it? Well,
what is not to like about having a guy with
great attitude, great work ethic people like him in a
locker room, who's a beast who just had to rehab,
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to rehab his lower half and get himself ready to go,
and he'll be good to go as long as he's healthy.
What you say that about everybody in the league. What's
not to like. It's not a fifteen million dollar contract.
Guys making two and a half million bucks when we say, well, Sean,
that's a lot of money. Not in football terms, it's
not in sports terms. That's just a guy these days,
that's what the money says. My gut tells me he's
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going to get closer to the five million on the
earnings if if he's if something were to happen, I
won't mix it healthy. You know. I think he's a monster,
and they got to use them even better. But this
two head added. Find me two more physical backs on
one team in the league. Find it and when if
you can, let me know and I'll back off. I'm
talking about two guys. They can beat you on the edge,
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they will pass protect and it will thump you with
the football on their hand. And and don't run away
from hits, they run to them. So I don't know
what's not to like. This will be a sneaky offseason
signing that people will say, damn, there's other teams that
needed him more than the Texans, Let's put it that way,
and they let it. They let the Texans grow him,
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which is a good bit, which is a big get
for the Texans in my opinion.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Yeah, as the Texans will start madeatory mini camp today.
It's there a final offseason on field work before they
hit training camp later next month.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
C J.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Stroud, I mean something we haven't really had a chance
to talk about much. I mean, you know, Sean, I
mean it did make the declaration with you on here
we weren't going to do OTA's and mini camp deep dives.
But when it comes to the quarterback, well, I think
you can make somewhat of an exception because we haven't
seen him on the field yet.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Oh, there's no question about it. But I can't wait.
But I can't wait, can you? I can't wait? It
is well Wins training camp.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Start, It'll be later next month, so I guess, yeah,
well this I've got.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
If you don't have reason for optimism, not only for
individual players, but for this team, considering they make sure
that they were aggressive, and we talked about Dana Brown
and his eye for talent. I'm just gonna tell you
if you if you haven't been paying attention to Nick
Cassario's moves since he's been here, player moves, then then
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we're not We're not giving him the credit he deserves
because it's the Patriot way. He deserves a lot of credit.
Very easily a year or two ago could have been
the Executive of the Year as well. So keep an
eye on a couple leaks, close moves. These are the
type of guys that a guy like Bill Belichick with
With Corey Dillon, I'm just using going back to Chub
mind you, the example of him they revitalized. He's seen
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this movie for twenty years. But yeah, in the case
quarterback running back it's going to be and the way
this defense is built, we should be looking for this
training camp as much as any since well, since you've
been back in town and since I've been here. This
team's got to be You've got to be excited about
what they're bringing the table. They are that in my opinion,
they're a heavy favorite of the division. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Absolutely, I mean, even with the moves that the Jags
have made, I mean, you know, Tennessee is going to
be starting a rookie quarterback. Hind you, he was the
you know, top pick in the draft. And then I mean,
you know, the Indianapolis Coles still trying to figure out
what their quarterback situation is if Anthony Richardson can stay healthy.
So a lot of questions with the other three teams,
not as many with the Texans, as we'll get back
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into the Nick Chubb conversation as.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
The show goes along.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
But the Astros starting up a series tonight with the
White Sox over at dyke In Park. Lance mccullor's junior
going to get the ball and now a chance to
talk him much with you, Sean, So we'll do that
right here. It is the Sean Salisbury Show getting going
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Speaker 6 (13:51):
Sean, the last two times out that we've seen Lance
mccullors junior on the mound, it's been masterful work. Six
innings in both of those outings. He strikes out twelve
against the A's on the twenty eighth of last month,
and then his next time out against the Pirates up
in Pittsburgh, get seven strikeouts, just two hits, does not
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give up a single earned run.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
He has been impressive the last two starts. I'll be
honest with you. I didn't expect him to be that
good that fast. I don't know if people are calling
it good there Dan, I mean, I mean in Houston
and those two because I was out of town. The
second one, for sure, I might have been out of town.
I know we talked about the first one when we
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had the big strikeout day after being booed, and you know,
the threats and all those things. But I didn't expect
him to be this effective and to go that deep
this sin. I didn't. I matter of fact, during this
rehab thing the last year, I just figured lancemac colors
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was going to be destined for the bullpen. And we've
talked about it, and he's worked at it, and I
know in his mind and obviously and he asked us
he's a starting pitcher and it's needed because he didn't
know the first one was there. And then you're like, wow,
he got blown up and then comes back and does
that because you know he's going to get a lot
of swing in this. He's got great stuff. So but
I just didn't know, and I didn't trust it. Not him,
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I just didn't trust when you've seen this happen time
and you're like, oh my gosh, when is is he
going to get hurt again? What's the recovery going to be? Like?
Is can his arm? All those things? And we're still
early in the in the in the you know, in
his game, coming back in the rehab and getting back
and working himself into, you know, to be six innings
and throw quite a few pitches for a guy who
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hadn't pitched in a couple of years. I didn't. I
know he's competitive, but I did not expect him to
be this I don't know if efficient's the right word,
effective at times dominant. I didn't. I don't think I
expected this kind of distance with him just yet figured
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to see a lot of foreignning spot stuff where they
it would almost be like, they know, if we can
get sixty five seventy pitches out of him. Not a doctor,
but he just was kind of going through how you
rebuild what he's had to go through. I didn't expect
him to be this effective, and in his last two
starts he's been pretty damn good and it's a hell
of a bonus. And he looks like a starting pitcher
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and he there's at times he looks like lancemac Culors
did before he was before he went through any injury.
So it's been a I think, a blessing and a
pleasant surprise. Now sustaining it's always a problem for pitchers
in baseball to continue to do it and get through.
There's will be a time he's gonna have another tough
start and he's gonna have to fight his way through
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it and grind out where he's scattering some hits or struggling,
or as one of those games where he's just not
very good and comes back. But he's been pretty resilient
with this, and it's been I didn't believe that he'd
be as effective this early. I just didn't, and so
it's a nice surprise to see.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Yeah, I mean, for the most part, people have been
impressed with what he's done. Now, I mean, social media
will be social media. You also have people who will
do the old that consider the source of the a's
who are not very good and they lost again last night,
or the pirates who seemingly cannot score runs but still,
I mean, nineteen strikeouts and twelve innings, Sean, I don't
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care who's on the other side.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Those are still professional hitters.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
That's still sending guys back to the dugout with pretty
good regularity.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, and that's they get paid. Okay, they're teams that
they're probably both teams. You give them a couple extra
pitchers and a superstar and a couple of good players.
What are they four players away from that? You know,
some teams are eight players away from being eight players away.
So all of a sudden, the Pirates make a move here,
and make a move there, and make a move here,
and they're a playoff contender. It doesn't take much to
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get somebody to turn around. A little bit of luck
and a lot of health, which you got to be
lucky as well, and a couple of players. I don't
care who it's against. I wouldn't care if it was
against Triple A Baseball. It's a lot of strikeouts two days.
Consider this source, all the all the armwork and injuries
that he's been through and the things that he's had
to endure. I do not make an excuse for him.
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I mean, but he that's a lot of that's a
lot of swing and miss and a lot of whiff
and a lot of strikeouts. Regardless of your plan and
you could be I don't care if you go the
Colorado Rockies in there and make it a third one.
It's still he's still got to get throw enough strikes
to get professional guys out. And of course it's not
the Dodgers lineup, but it'd probably be a little different.
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But that'd be different for any picture from Schemes to
Fromber to anybody else. So but social media will do that. Okay,
look at a guy who's done this and you think
man all two years out a big deal. Look who
he did it against. Now, if he did it against
the Dodgers, they'd make the excuse that Mookie Betts had
a day off. That's how social media, some of social media,
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the people that use it for that very reason to
have this type of conversation over can't find anything good.
And there's still things that he's got to work on,
and there's things to like. Listen, man, when the comeback stories,
I'm always impressed with him, whether it's because of something
that happened to them emotionally, physically, mentally they've been through something.
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Comeback stories and how people handle them to me, or
the essence of what pro sports in life is. I
know it sounds cheesy, but it is and so easy
to root for. I know some people have a disdain
for him, think it took too long. I know all that,
But when you're just talking about when he toes the rubber,
he's been pretty damn good for a guy who hadn't
seen a You know, I haven't seen a live game
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until this year, and it's been a minute. So don't
let social media bog down how he's been because it
wouldn't matter who he did it against. There'll be some
ex from somebody. Fact that he's out there pitching and
getting you into six innings and as what you said,
nineteen strikeouts and two of those starts, I'd say that
that means he's commanding a little better than I think
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that I would have expected.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Well, and it's also your competitive when he pitches. I mean,
at least the last couple of times out and even
before that when he wasn't able to get into the
fifth inning or even past. It's in most of those starts.
You still won a couple of those games. So you've
lost Renel Blanco for the season. You're not gonna have
Hayden Wasnski the rest of the way. You're still waiting
on Spencer Arraghetti. Not to mention the other guys that
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you may or may not see this season. And I
bring up Blanco first because he pretty much was giving
you these type of outings whenever he was out there
five six innings. Maybe he'll give up a runner two,
a home run here or there, but for the most part,
you look back to the lineup and you say, hey,
you guys are in position where you can still win
this ball game.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
There's no doubt. Isn't that kind of the goal to start?
You know, would you'd like to have a dominant performance
every time, But isn't that kind of the goal? Give yourself,
ease up the bullpen, get a quality start, and give
your team a chance to win. Isn't that? I mean,
aren't we looking for that? Not everybody's fall schemes or
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goes out there and has a hundred round dominance where
you know that you're not only in every game, you
got a chance to win every game, and somebody who
scores your three runs. But the fact that after this,
there's no way that there is no way, even if
you know how competitive a guy like what Colors is,
even his own teammates would have expected maybe some of it,
but I got to believe they're pleasantly surprised too to
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see it come out, to know that it's not just
that these spitua, but the recovery time. I was always
concerned about in between starts, with all this and laboring
or going through this, how does he feel the next
start after striking out twelve? So yeah, man, I just
when you're in it, if you leave and have worked
your innings and qualify for a win, and you've given
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your team a chance, or you haven't, you know, walked
nine runners and put your team down. You lead off
innings and you're down, they're just you're just you're just
battling to get through because they don't want to waste
a bullpen and you're down eight to one and the
sixth inning, he's given his team a chance. And to
me and now for him, obviously the mental side of
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the approach of a player, that's not his approach. His approaches.
He wants to go out and dominate every day and
that's probably what makes him pretty good because he's not
just trying to get by. He wants to be a
quality frontline starter. Again, I can imagine, and what a
comeback story. It'll make if he can. So my colors
have still got some work to do. But if you
haven't been impressed with what you've seen into in these,
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you know, last two starts, then maybe maybe I'm watching
different baseball. Dominant and impressive don't have to be the
same thing. You can have success with.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Both yeah and the Astros hoping they can continue said
success with mccullors on the Mountain Night against Shane Smith
for the White Sox to start up the series. So
we'll continue to talk about this, and also mentioned the
Nick Chubb signing in the first segment that's on the
table as well against some one three two one two
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seven nine zero Dana Brown.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Are we giving them enough credits? We'll talk about it
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season as a talent evaluator and what the Astros have
been able to add to this team and use to
help this team get into the position that they're in
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usual guys to be able to help you get to
that point of this season. Let's take Steven Okert for example.
This year tied for third on the team in appearances
with Josh Hater, and this season so far he's one
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and two with a two point four to three e er.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
He has once save.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
He also has struck out thirty seven this year, which
is currently tied for us for second on the team
with Brian A.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Bray.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
You and what he has been able to do this
year for you to be able to put yourself in
position second amongst relievers is what I meant there. But
still somebody that you brought in, gave a chance as
somebody that could maybe be a middle of the rotation guy.
And just like we've seen an elevation of Sean Duban Sean,
we could probably even see in some of those seventh
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eighth inning situations that if you have a couple of
guys down, Steven Okert is somebody that you can count
on to be able to get some meaningful outs.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
With his versatility and his forms. This year has been
spot on and definitely needed. And yes, I don't think
anybody would waiver one second if you had to have
him for a couple of weeks or what have you.
In that role. He's been outstanding. And every year on
good teams there's a bullpen guy or a starting pitcher.
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Look around that man, this guy's nine to three. Oh man,
this guy's you know, his his era is below is
in the low twos, or he's strike out, the walk
ratio or his earn run, whatever it is. There's there's
always a guy on good teams you go in that
you really didn't count on, meaning you may have count
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on an organization, but not a lot of people know
a lot about that. You're like, oh man, where'd this guy?
And next thing, you know, he said in an All
Star Game You're like, oh, yeah, he's a reliever for
you know, for Boston or Baltimore, and we got one here.
He's been phenomenal, and good teams find those guys and
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his role. He has done every single thing that's been
asked to him. Short of a couple moments. It's been
a really, really good start here in the first seventy
games or so for him and much needed. And he
has made that bullpen a lot deeper and a lot wider.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
And Brian King right now is tied for the sensational man. Yeah,
tied for the most appearances on the team for the
Astros this year, as he is three and one three
point e er. Struck out twenty nine in his twenty
seven innings, pitched a whip of just flat out one.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I loved his approach during before they went off to
train and camp, get a chance to sit and talk
to him. I thought it was awesome, easy, got root, force,
had success obviously, we've seen it here and just continues
on the grind and he will lead innings for you.
And he's one of those guys you keep looking at
me and saying, man, it seems like every single day
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he's doing work the bullpen. When all is said and done,
this year, the hitting, honestly, you can hit two thirty
as a team and still make headway in the postseason.
You can. We've seen it. Said. I think when this
team won a World Series, I think they were hitting
in the low two hundreds or load of mid two hundreds.
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They were, and well, I think you see it as
an overall team. You as long as your bullpen and
you're starting pitching is healthy and successful, you can get
by the other way around. You can't. You can mash.
But over the course of one hundred and sixty two games,
there's going to be too many big games, too too
many high scoring games. You can't expect just your guys
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to score seven, eight nine runs the night. Pitching can
be too good, too specialized. So the opposite is true
that if you have bullpen and starting pitching and you're
averaging three or four runs, again, you can still win
a lot of games. And that's exactly who the Astros
are now. You expect more from their bats. But the opposite.
You can mash and hit and hit and hit. If
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you can not pitch you're pitching, you will eventually go
away and your team will fizzle. Oh, they'll put some
good numbers up and it'll be impressive, but the ultimate
but yeah, but how'd you guys pitch the ops?
Speaker 8 (30:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Man, you're leading, here's Jake Myers and you're rolling the guy.
And in no disrespect to input, that's not what you
expect him to do. But you can go and hit,
kind of like they're hitting. Your star's out. The power
hasn't been there as much as you'd like. You're waiting
for al Tuovid going keep pitching. You're in first place, bullpen,
Ocher King starting pitching fromber Hunter Brown. You've seen what
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mccullors has done. Okay, how's the Jordance season so far?
Injury riddled? Unfortunately? And he hasn't He wasn't. The power
wasn't there. Up and down for Altuve, up and down
for Jiner, No Kyle Tucker, no Alex Bregman, Prade, It's
been pretty good. Jake Myers has had a hell of
a start. Painting is playing great baseball. Christian Walker's in
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the round two ten. Now look at the pitching staff
and tell me why they're in first place. And you
can sustain that. I mean meaning if you can pitching,
stay healthy, the guys like King and Okre who eat
up innings and do their thing, and you get good
starting pitching, you can still win not only a lot
of baseball games, you can roll through playoff wins if
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you can pitch. Now, we love the hitting. You'd like
to get a little more leeway. It's a lot of
stress to put on pitching staffs, but the Kings and
the Ochres of the world are a big reason why
you get the comfort zone. If this team continues to
do this, they will win the division even if they
hit like this the rest of the year. If they
pitch like this and hit like this, they will still
win the division. If they hit great and pitch average
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and have injuries and their pitching is like blah, it
doesn't matter how well they hit. They may get closer
in a walk up, they won't last because you'll run
in to scooble, You'll run into guys like that. It
will shut you down. You'll be finished. So this you
can sustain, I mean, if you can sustain and it
gives you a better chance to win. It's just like anything. Eventually,
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it may get you where you don't have offense and
the other team's got great pitching as well, and they
beat you three to two. But in the NFL, offense offense,
offense can't play defense and can't get stops. You not
win a Super Bowl. You're just not. If you can
do both offense and defense like teams can Dodgers, then
you feel pretty good about your game. So this pitching.
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Do not discount that some of the most valuable players
on this team this year, two guys you just mentioned
in the bullpen the way they pitched well.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
And you know we've not even mentioned Ben at Susie yet,
who of course picks up the save on Saturday. Has
been somebody else that you can count on only seventeen
appearances this year, but still somebody that you did not
have all of last year, and we're able to pick
up after the roster deadline to be part of the
twenty twenty three postseason. But somebody that at the Astros
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get there, I would probably expect will be part of it.
And you mentioned it about postseason six, says Seany Salt
in twenty two. I mean, when you pitch as well
as the Astros, did you get timely enough hitting, then
you're a World Series Champion's that's what the postseason is.
It's not about how well you can hit, because you're
not scoring five, six seven runs in a game and
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winning them most nights.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Well, you're getting you're getting your their best pitchers all
the time. Well that's what that's what the playoffs are.
The rotate you're getting their best stuff. So yeah, you're
not getting into the sixth, seventh, eighth pitcher because somebody's
tired or missed the start, and you got a six
man rotation. That's not the postseason. So you're damn right.
And like I said, you can hit two thirty five
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as a team and still be a champion. You can
hit two thing. You can as long as you get now.
A lot of teams don't have the fortune that this
franchise does of getting such great pitching starting pitching. Even
with all the injuries, somebody else stepping in and doing
their job, and the bullpen's been fantastic. That's why you
hear pitching, pitching, pitching even when you go through slumps.
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Defense in NFL keeps you in games and travels. Pitching
always travels. Hitting can travel, but they'll knock your ass
out of a first class seat. If you get a pitcher,
you can knock it down so it travels at times,
but sustain travel for long trips. You give me pitching
and bulp is starting pitching, bullpen pitching over hitting. We
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just like the optics of hitting because it gives some leeway,
but it also looks sexier. Three to one games aren't
that much fun to watch unless you let into the
pitching and defense thing. We like it, and of course
you want your bats to be alive and well. But
one good outing for a pitcher cools bats in a hurry.
One I mean cools bats in a hurry. So the
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best way to keep the pitching going. You can still
win a championship even when you're not your best hitters
are not performing to their level or aren't on the
field because they're hurt. The Assos are the perfect example
of that, and lost all those bodies in the offseason.
They're still a matter of fact, they're in first place
at this point. Last year with all those bodies, they
weren't sniffing well, it's maybe around this point, but twelve
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and twenty four to start, so forty games in they were.
We were rolling our eyes singing, okay, whins football season start?
Not now. This is a different Astros team.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Definitely much more fun to watch too, as they've been
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Get back at it.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
As I mentioned, the Astros wake up this morning with
a three game lead on the Mariners. It was two
and a half heading into yesterday, but thanks to Josh
Naylor in a walk off grand Slam in the eleventh
out there in the Desert, Diamondbacks able to beat them
eight to four. But it has not been a good
week and a half for the Mariners. In their last
ten games, they are three and seven. They got swept
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by the Orioles when the Astros took two out of
three from the Pirates, then they lost two out of
three to the Angels over the weekend after the Astros
took two out of three from the Angels, and then
last night. So they are the primary the competition that
the Astros have in the West right now, and the
Astros have been able to handle business while the Mariners
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have not.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Similar situation. I don't know the record wise, I didn't
haven't looked last year, but if you recall when they
were twelve and twenty four, and then as they started
to get on a little bit of a run and
push towards the mid season, that the Mariners helped him
as well. There was a time and I don't remember
when the months came down. If you remember the Mariners,
when the Astros were going through their good the Mariners
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were not playing great baseball either, which allowed the Astros
to go from twelve to twenty four to work in
their way, calm their way back in and then the
swing from where they were to where they ended up
was alarming. You have to get some help during that.
You can play well if the other team's playing well
as you, and it wasn't it Also last year at
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one point when we had the Dodgers, Dodgers were playing
great baseball and we're like, whoa, and the Padres didn't
go away, right, The pot were hanging around when it
was Dodgers, Dodge and Padres like, we keep talking about
how well this team's playing. Well, it goes the ops
as well. While the Astros were starting to play really
good baseball and needed to pick up and have themselves
a month or so plus the game ground the rest
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of the division helped, and the Mariners at the top it, Yes,
they are the main competitor there. Obviously when they're healthy
and right, they're loaded on the pitching staff. But I
just even though cal Rawley's having a hell of a
big year with the bat and a long ball, and
we know some of the skills set they're the truth
of the matter is they have to get good. They
don't have great hitting. And I know a lot of
teams can say that when you go up and down
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their lineup. I don't know if you fear it, does
that make sense when they're full of I don't know
if you fear it. There's good players, but they know
they have to pitch well. But I think they know
they have to even do more than that. Where the
Astros and there's an experience that goes with no one
how to win. So the Mariners talented, They've got good players,
but pitching is going to. The one who can sustain
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the pitching wins the division. Because we know what the
Rangers' bats look like when all of those guys are
healthy and raking, and along with good pitching led them
to a World Series championship and a hell of a manager.
So Seattle's got that in them, the ability to scratch
stuff out, and they've got some long ball in them.
But I just I don't think I go in with
the major fear their lineup, and you can probably say
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that about a lot of lineups, but they are leaving
the door open for the Astros to continue to extend this.
But it has happened at times last year as well,
where when the Astros were able to hang around, but
when they started winning, they got some help from the
rest of the division so they could close the gap
and eventually, you know, take care of their business and
get to the division and make the playoffs. So you
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have to have help during the season from other people
as well.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
It was June into July last year, we go, where
are the Astros At July eleventh last season had the
best record in baseball since the first of June. They
were twenty four and eleven during that stretch, and then
twenty eighteen when they were in the throes of still
having a lot of their homegrown guys.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
In the organization.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
Remember, at one point they had won eleven straight road
games that tied a franchise record. They were also eighteen
and three in a twenty one game stretch that dated
back to June sixth of that season. So June has
been kind of the Astro.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, and I'll bet you. I'll bet you the Mariners
record And maybe I'm wrong, but I'll bet you the
Mariner's record during that stretch. Ginger July was not stellar.
I don't have it in front of me, but I
would bet that the for to make ground up you
had to have help. I mean, it's okay for the
other teams of the division to go through their struggles
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so you can make ground. And I would imagine the
timing was pretty perfect for the Astros. On the switch.
You got better, they got worse.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
Well, it's usually past to take advantage of said timing.
That's what the Astros have been able to do.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
What about the.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Time that is in front of them, Well, that could
be equally as kind to the Astros, and we'll talk
about that as we start our number two of the
Seawn Salisbury Show.
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This is the Seawan Salsbury Show. First with three against
the Chicago White Sox. It's gonna be Lance mccullors junior
tonight against Shane Smith. Diamondback's able to walk off the
Mariners in eleven innings last night, eight to four. So
the Astros wake up this morning at three games in
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front of Seattle for first in the West. And the
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the number to get in. Continuing the Astros conversation, Sewan
I found this last night on Twitter and the guy
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goes by at TJ stats. His name is Thomas Nastiko
and he is on Patreon and substack. He's a stats
guy and his data compiled from Major League Baseball and
schedules played this season. Are you aware that the Astros
have played so far to this point, at least by
record the hardest record in all of baseball?
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Had shock? Yeah? Yeah, and that's and they play their
best baseball, it seems when they're playing, haven't they always
though last year the year was it? Last year in
the year before, when the year before when they tied,
had the tiebreak at the end of the season, had
to go five or six down the stretch to win,
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didn't They put themselves in a bind by getting beat
by the A's Kansas City teams that were poor. They've
now maybe the stats don't bear this out, but I
test tells me that they've always played better against good teams.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe the stats don't match it. And
it doesn't shock me that they've played the toughest record,
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the toughest schedule in baseball. That doesn't surprise me. I mean,
there's some of their early teams, in early starts they
have and you know the changes. Sometimes you go into
the season, say, this team is supposed to be really good.
Look at the Baltimore Orioals. Did you have this on
your Bengal card? One of the the awful manager fired.
So you play teams like that and you think, well,
you know they're supposed to be good, so that didn't count.
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Things do change, But when you're playing the toughest schedule,
it seems to me the Astros since I've been here,
I feel like they've elevated against good teams. It was
the games they were supposed to win, the birdie holes
that a couple of years that struggled, and playing at
home that same season trying to close games out home
they weren't very good. They played better at home this year.
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So yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all. And I
think that for us and for my op, they always
seem to elevate their game against dud teams as opposed
to the opposite. I don't know over the last five
or seven years that bears it out, but with their record,
it would seem to me. With who they've beaten all
these ALCS runs. It would I think that it would
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bear it out in most seasons that the Astros play
really well against good teams. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:21):
The sixty five games they've played this year, fifty of
them have been against teams that are above five hundred.
They're twenty seven and twenty three in those games. The
fifteen that are against teams under five hundred, they are
nine and six.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yeah, so I mean they're doing that. Those are those
verdic goals we talked about. But I also am going
back just real quick. I think last year June and July,
the Mariners record was like twenty one and twenty four
of those two months combined, so they were you know,
three or three games under five hundred, and the Astros
were able to make a move. As I digress, but yeah,
it doesn't. Some teams elevate the Astros. It almost feels
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like they they're locked in. Whether it's playing a good
golf course and you are playing with good players on
a golf course, you play better because you want to
make sure that you don't slow them down. The Astros
seem to elevate when they're playing against good pitching clutch hits,
timely pitching for them. And you can say, well, listen,
everybody like that, and that answer is no, everybody's not
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like that. Individuals aren't like that. Some are and some
teams are. But my suggestion is that they played over
five hundred teams one hundred and sixty two games, that
they'd win the division because I think that there's a
there's something about them that and whether it's part of
that we over use it again culture word that we
talk about, or maybe we under use it, maybe maybe
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we should talk about it more, but this team seems
to they're they're they're they're more locked in when when
things when when they're pressed and they're struggling and they
need wins, or when they're playing against teams that they're
really good. Especially in the regular season, this team has
been pretty locked in against good competition.
Speaker 6 (46:58):
Well, and you mentioned those party holes because we've also
talked about and Spark you mentioned it yesterday when he
was on with us, that it is going to be
the start of thirteen straight games in thirteen days for
the Astros, and as of right now, ten of those
opportunities are going to be against teams that are under
five hundred.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
These are the ones. This is how you This is
when you create the distance. Right. You expect playing good
teams you're gonna win some series and you're not. But
when you play teams like the White Sox or you
mentioned the Pirates, teams you're supposed to beat you, you
those are Birdie and eagle holes. Got to do it
because in the end this division will be close, and
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you'd hate to if you look back and say, you
know what, we got beat by the Dodgers on a
no tiny walk off home run. If you're in the
National whoever you are, not just the ass anybody you
can live with it, I mean nobody. You'd like to
obviously make somebody else beat You don't want the other
team's best player, you know, to beat you. When you're
playing Boston, you prefer its not Bregman or Devers. If
you're playing the Astro either you don't want out two
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they or you're on to be the ones. Make Jake
Myers beat you. This year he's been able to do it.
It's the same thing for them. When you're playing against
teams you're supposed to beat, you can't let them hang
around in the seven till the seventh inning. I know
they're pros, I know they get just can't let them
hang around because then it's the bloop single that costs you.
Those are the games where you got to win ninety three,
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ninety two. Now, you'll take a win anyway you can
get it. But I say it every year and I
continue to that you don't win golf tournaments making pars.
You just don't. When there's a par a hard par long,
par three over water that you got to surrounded by bunkers,
you hit in the middle of the green and putt
and get out. And at times a bogie ain't a
bad thing. But when you play bad teams regularly, which
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is which aren't the good teams. So you got to
make pars against good teams, you better you'd be a
better birdie an eagle some of these holes, or you can't.
You can't win them. You can hang around. You ain't
win the tournaments that way, you'll be in a top
hundred hot top one, twenty five on the money list.
You ain't want to winning a tournament. So if you
can't birdie the par fives, you're just not part of
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the par five. You're you will not win. So I
will continue to stress that that they've they've got the
folks kicking. They got to treat like they're playing the
Dodgers and they play teams are supposed to beat them.
If they continue to do that, then that the ass
is going to be fine. I know they're locked in
when they're playing good teams when it comes to there,
the way they approach it, it's these type of games
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where you can get laxed and say, oh, come on, man,
we're supposed to win these, Well, then then go do it.
And I think that's that's been a problem for any
team that struggles. When you're not birty in par fives,
you realize we can't let it. It almost cost them
a playoff Berth two years ago and down. It almost
costs them not winning at home and not beating teams
that they're supposed to smoke. It almost costs them two
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more days of that they wouldn't have made the playoffs.
So that that's a focus we can all askay, oh yeah,
tho's not that big a deal. They're that big a
deal because at the end of the season, there's no
way anybody in this divisions winning by ten games unless
there's a rash of injuries. It's just not going to
happen well.
Speaker 6 (50:05):
And they've yet to see the Angels, who are now
five games back of them. They've been playing good baseball,
but you have to wonder how much longer that lasts for.
But Ron Washington's club is thirty one and thirty four
at the moment, so still below five hundred. We'll see
what changes in about a week and a half when
the Astros do head to Anaheim and take on the Angels.
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But you've got the Athletics who continue to slide their
twenty six and forty two during that stretch, the White Sox,
who aren't playing terrible baseball, Sean, but there's still twenty
two games below five hundred, so there is plenty of
ground to be able to make up. It is worth noting, though,
as the graft that TJ Stats had put together, the
Mariners have played thirty three games. They are third most
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in that category against teams that are below five hundred
this year.
Speaker 5 (50:53):
The Rangers. I'm not completely righting them off yet, Sean.
Speaker 6 (50:56):
They've played twenty six games this year against teams that
are below five hundred, and they have been reeling so
far because they can't hit.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yeah, and I'm just telling you that at some point
they will. We've said it about this team too, Now,
what's the struggle of hitting with the stars. It's a
Bruce Bochie managed team that, aside from really good pitching
that they got two years ago when they won the
World Series, they raked. Now they were the outlier. I
mean they're just scoring twelve and fourteen runs and then
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nine runs and they then we saw them in the
postseason hit. But they also got timely, really really good
pitching from was A Montgomery. I mean, they've got some
great pitching in that way you have to and it's
a Bochie managed team. So if anybody thinks after last year,
I would if people were wise, they would count on
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the fact that somehow, some way Bochi's team won't go away.
I just don't think they will either. I wouldn't count
them out because at some point they will hit, and
they've got quality starters at the So for me, I
thought they'd be in the division hunt at the beginning
of the year. And I'm not even close to counting
him out because we know who he is and his
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track record, and if we're giving people track record credit,
he deserves as much as anybody. I know the hat
fields in McCoy's feeling here from Houston to Dallas. I
get that. But the truth is I wouldn't blink when
I'm talking about the Rangers' gonna They're gonna be around,
and they've got some quality pitching as well.
Speaker 6 (52:30):
Yeah, definitely have to see if they are able to
pull through at some point this season. But as it
stands at the moment, the Rangers five and a half
games back of the Astros in the West. All Right,
most of us have been through a situations like this
in the past. But are you going to feel targeted?
When I read off some of the examples. We'll talk
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over one year could be worth as much as five
They start mandatory mini camp today. Dating Sean. Now, me
and you, we are in kept relationships. But Tripley, he
is our foot soldier. He is out there on the
front lines and you are at war. Triple Ye, I
don't want you to forget that that is what that
world is very much so out Kick was able to
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get wind of a Reddit thread that is out there
about toxic dating habits that have gone viral and a
few of them that were able to.
Speaker 5 (55:50):
Be listed here.
Speaker 6 (55:52):
Like one, testing people instead of being honest, I mean,
there is a cording process that does happen in dating, Sean,
We've all had to go through it. Sometimes it's great,
sometimes it's really awesome, and then sometimes it sucks because
then you're in a full on relationship and you're still
learning about each other, so those growing pains are still there.
But testing people instead of being honest, feel like if
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you're starting without honesty, usually the relationship isn't going to
go far.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
I would imagine, Yeah, dating can suck. I'm sure it
can be a great thing. I think we've all been
through both right where it's like, man, it's a lot
of work. I get it on both sides for men
and for women. But yeah, I think that a lot
of people do test and like low instead of like, okay,
here's what you know, setting parameters or kind of converse out.
(56:43):
I don't even think it's it's like here's what I do.
Here's what you do. It's kind of, you know, sifting
your way through it because you're if you're looking for perfect,
I got one suggestion, I keep it moving because that
ain't out there for anybody. It's the one of the
you know, those of us who think that perfect is
out there and I'm kidding because I don't is You're
(57:06):
you're probably going to be disappointed, but in all the fun,
But you're right. I think that relationships a lot of
times are let me test them first as opposed to communicate.
Is that basically what you're saying with this kind of
thing that communicate and honesty straight up front, that you
test them and see if they pass the test. That's
one percent of what it is.
Speaker 6 (57:23):
Yes, yes, where it's all you know, Oh, you weren't
one hundred percent honest with me?
Speaker 5 (57:27):
Well, I mean I mean trying to be like it's yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
Should everything in your past come to should you be
should you have to tell your relationship Let's say you're
married or dating somebody in the past. Do you owe
it to the future spouse and or girlfriend to tell
everything that's passed for you in your dating life, for
things that have happened good or bad. Do you owe
it to that person or is it none of their
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business what's happened prior to you.
Speaker 6 (57:55):
I think if it's asked, then sure, divulge it. But
I mean if not, no, it's in your past. I mean,
you're a reason. They're single for a reason. So just
take it for what it's worth.
Speaker 1 (58:04):
Are you okay? So let's say you're single and you're dating.
You start dating this gal and she wants to know
about your passion. It was a tough relationship and maybe
you you know, you'd matured and you got you got
better at it. Please say, you know what, it's something
I don't really want to discuss. It's the past. It
was a relationship that or a couple of relationships that
I had to learn the hard way or the easy whatever.
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We both had to learn the hard way. And it's
not worth discussing because I won't let it happen again.
Should that be sufficient enough for your the one you're
dating or future possible significant other or spouse to say,
you know what? That's fair? I don't need to know everything.
Speaker 6 (58:41):
Well, I mean, I think there's a little bit of
both there. I mean, I think that if the conversation
does come up, don't avoid it. But it is one
of the toxic dating habits that is on here talking
excessively about exes being hung up on x's or jumping
from person to person instead of committing. I think a
huge part of that is people who are not ready
to date, because I mean you'll see that all the time.
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What's the number one piece of advice a divorce, a breakup,
whatever it is, Hey, take your time, Like that's the
best friendly advice that you can get. And at the time,
you want that time to be able to speed up
because you're hurting, you're I mean, it is grief, it
is a loss, so that's part of it. But I
mean it does get to that where it's you know,
oh my ex used to do this, oh you know,
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like all of these different things.
Speaker 5 (59:24):
It gets nauseating.
Speaker 6 (59:25):
Man, Like you're just like, look, you're not over them,
and I'm not going to be your shoulder to cry
on for that because it's not what I signed up for.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
Yeah, I mean, if you're still conversing with an X
and trying to move on to another relationship that never works,
I mean it's bad because you're right, I mean, on bold,
whether you're male, or females. When you're moving on, you
got to. I mean, I think the one thing for
some in the dating world that Hella, don't look to
me for expertise, but in the dating world would be
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the inability to move on. But yet some force their
way into another relationship because they get a little bit
of a rebound, or some don't like being alone. I've
always been okay being I mean for a lot of
you being alone. I mean, I mean, go to movies
and life. There's something that you just can't. But I
don't know. I think there's a fine line between what
is your business to know and what isn't. Just because
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I'm moving on with you doesn't mean I need to
know everything about Okay, So somebody comes up says how
many women you had sex with? And you lie to
her and you've had sex with ten, but she and
you told her seven, right, but you left out You
just convenient left out three because maybe when her and
her they were friends back in junior high hopefully not
(01:00:39):
but high school or college, and you just seem to
kind of leave that one out. You don't talk to
that person. We just kind of leave it out because
it's maybe a little too close to home. Not that
you were cheating, it's just that before you met her
this happened and you just don't want to You don't
want to hurt feelings. Is that sufficient or should you
be able to? Do you need to walk down the
line and name everyone and tell the experiences. Are we
there or or is it better left on set? Well?
(01:01:02):
I mean I would say I don't think relationships need
to know everything about everything. Now if it's significant to
your relationship still you know you were a hoe and
you haven't quit being a hoe, Well maybe that's a problem,
right male or female. But if you you know, made
a mistake you would consider a mistake or got in
a relationship, or something happened when you know you were
twenty two and now you're thirty four, and it's just say,
(01:01:25):
you know what, it's not that it's not important in
our future. And then they find out ten years that,
well you left this one out. Do you all of
a sudden leave? Is that an eagle or pride thing?
Do you all of a sudden just up and leave
and break up because you say, well, they lied to
me twelve years ago because they just didn't want to
bring something. Is that a liar. Is that a convenient
leave out?
Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
I mean what I'm saying, I mean, I don't even
think it's a convenient leave out. It's just that was
our business like it was in the past.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
My point, so, when when does everything become the significant
other's business? When they crossed the threshold of marriage or
you're in a committed relationship, yes, yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
The committed relationship.
Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Yeah right, sure, Okay from then on, but do they
need to know you know who you you know who
you were ten toes up and ten toes down with
your freshman year in college. Now right, that's it's her sister. Okay,
I get that, you know, you know, that's families When
you come over for family dinner, I am I gonna
have to worry about you playing foot seas at the table.
(01:02:18):
I get that. But I'm going to say, like I said,
i'd being a relationship expert's got to be taxing, because
I don't even know how you become a relationship expert
when it comes to like because one for for some people,
one thing's great. You know, there's deal breakers for everybody. Right,
for some people, one thing they may like. If you
don't like tattoos, you probably don't do you know some
(01:02:41):
of us you're not gonna want to date, okay, but
if you do so, well, I guess maybe it takes
a person to look through things and say, okay, there's
a weakness, but I can live with that because I
love this person or the you know that person does this?
Got to do it. There are deal breakers that'll be
deal breakers no matter what. If I was in I could,
I wouldn't be able to do and a lot of
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like hygiene and personal hygiene and stuff. But as far
as relationships, if you're forty and you made a mistake
at twenty three, who am I to judge? If I
judged you on that, you should get out of the
relationship right as long as that trend of bad decisions
or a decision hasn't continued in a relationship. They're tough, man,
because a decision you and your girl may make in
(01:03:21):
a relationship you guys may love to be perfect for you,
but in Tripoli and his future that may be something
they say, no, that doesn't enter our relationship or that's
a deal breaker. Well maybe a deal breaker for them,
it's not for you. So relationships or a trip man,
but anybody out there that raise their hand and says
they love dating. It's got to be on crack.
Speaker 6 (01:03:42):
It is probably it is probably one of the least
fun experiences. But one of the ones that is on
here is one that me and Megan do, and that's
sharing locations. And it's not for a oh I need
to know where you are at all times. It's honestly
for convenience. For example, the other night, I helped her
out at her family pet resort. We were going to
eat afterwards she had to stay behind to finish something
(01:04:04):
up at their business. But then, you know, I was
with her parents and we were grabbing a drink at
the bar. So then I said, here, let me see
where she's at. And I saw she was turning into
the parking lot, and I said, let's get her a drink.
It's been a long day. Like that's me looking out
for her. And I also know that information without having
to text or call hey, how far away are you?
Speaker 8 (01:04:24):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (01:04:24):
Are you here yet? Like any of those things. Okay,
it's convenience is.
Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Okay, let me ask you this, and that sounds all
fine and in and I believe you, But let me
just be the naysayer. For the hell of it please
for the hell of it. Yeah, if she right now
that said, you know, I don't like that feels invasive
to me. I don't like that. Would you be offended thinking, oh,
she's up to something, see, because I do think that's invasive.
(01:04:48):
I feel like somebody put a thing. I would never
do that you realized. I never looked in the door
of my you know, in the dresser drawer of my
kid's room, or looked at their phone their entire life,
or a significant ever gone through significant other's drawer or
wallet when i'm I mean when i'm and not that
you have anything to hide. It's just to me. Unless
(01:05:10):
they say get in my purse and grab the keys
or grab the id or get I won't do I'll
hand them the purse to me. I understand on a
kid getting their license at sixteen, you're worried about them
or somebody's going for that night that they're going. You
want to make sure they get up safe. But I'll
ask you again. If she decided and she says, yeah,
that's a little too invasive. You don't need to know
(01:05:31):
where I'm driving down I ten on a regular base.
I'll text you or I'll tell you what I'm going
to be there and if I'm not, I'll let you
know text. Would you think that maybe even if it's
not you and her, just just play the game, if
you if it was somebody else, would you be offended
that she say? Would you start to think, hmm, I'm
going to watch a little closer. Why would she not
(01:05:52):
want me to know where she's driving down the street
when she's getting here? See? To me, I would never
put a tracker on my phone or no or where
I can watch their GPS and watch okay, they just
turned left her and right like it like a lift
or an uber. I would not do that. That for
me would be that for me would be too That
to me tells me you don't trust me. Where the
hell am I going? I said, you know my routine,
(01:06:14):
I'm going I'll be home at this time.
Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
If I'm two hours late and stopped in a bar,
get it. But for me, that seems too invasive. It
seems like that's a I'm watching every move you make,
so don't screw it up unless there was a cause
for it. If there, if there was probable cause, you've
cheated forty seven times, so I'd be out of the
relationship anyway. Sure, So what if she did that to you?
Is she said, I don't want to do this anymore.
(01:06:36):
I mean, I want, I love you to death, but
you don't need to, you know, track my car every
time I drive down the street. What would you.
Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Say, Sure, no problem, I mean, I'm gonna go home.
Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
I wouldn't. We wouldn't hurt your feelings, and you wouldn't
for one second think that she was up to something.
Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
No.
Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
I mean because I have a good idea of where
she is at all times, even if there you're going
to look at my phone, And I mean, for me,
it's my going out is my cow with a handle
of vodka, some sort of mixer and lemons and watching
either baseball or hanging out with the dogs.
Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
No. But I'm getting what you say about knowing, and
it's convenient right for you, it's convenient. Some others would
take it as oh you sure you get what I've said?
Like for sure, And there's plenty of them that don't
approach it like you. You know why they got They
want to know where their person is. Project way to
keep track of you, Oh, there's no, And there's a
way to keep track of them without you saying I
don't trust you. That's just kind of I care about you.
I love you. In your case, I believe it, But
(01:07:28):
I know there's some and you and I both know
they got that tracker on there. They want to know
whether they turn into the wrong neighborhood and what if
you make a wrong turn. It's like who's that address? Yeah?
Where they go? Why that grocery store? We usually go to?
Hem so to me because you know what its people
are like, the say you make it wrong. I made
the wrong turn. I wasn't paying attention. You sure who
(01:07:49):
lives who lives at heb? Nobody except a really good
grocery store. Other than that, I'm not really sure. So yeah,
I just think depending on the couple, it can be
awfully advasive if you let it, because then it becomes consuming.
Over why did they turn there? Well, it's like it's
like social media. Oh man, I got to see it
becomes and I would imagine it's the same thing. Oh
(01:08:12):
my gosh, I thought she said she was going to
be home. Well I had to run an er Well
you didn't tell me. Well that Errand's over at thirty
seven forty six West Jones Street. Didn't that your ex
boyfriend us to you know what I'm saying. You're starting
to trip out, right, So yeah, I just wonder how
people do it.
Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
There you go, you know, you know what. You're right.
You caught me. I'm cheating on you with brisket. Kso
that's that's what I'm doing, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Right, I was over at jbar and Barbecue getting some
good brisket. You're just screwed because you didn't make it.
That's it. I ate all your food too. There you go, yeah,
that's right.
Speaker 6 (01:08:41):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't think of you when you know,
thinking should I bring home some brisket?
Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
And the way I look at it like that, Dad,
what everyone? You know what when you got to question everything?
You know? Not you guys, but it would relationships with
this and that and well we just we care about it.
We want to know everybody's moved. No, you don't. You
lie in sack. You don't trust each other. And if
I got to do not I'm not talking about what
you're talking. I've told me that where everything gets questioned,
I wouldn't be in a relationship ever. I wouldn't. I
(01:09:08):
would not if I got a question when I get
up and walk to the restroom because somebody you missed
the phone call? Yeah I was. I was peeing and showering.
Do I need a phone in there too? That that
would not be that I couldn't do it to me.
It's just, man, you break the trust, you're done. That's
why always told my kids, if I got to look
at your drawer, at your phone, or if I got
(01:09:29):
to if I got to take you off, and then
then there's a reason and you won't have it. It's
pretty simple, and then I'll give you the trust until
you break the trust. And I was pretty fortunate my
three kids. I never had to. I'm sure they did
a little thing, you know, it's like all teenagers do.
But I never had to, and so I never wanted
that to be a problem. And I don't when you
have to start feeling that way to me or relationship
(01:09:49):
has gone south already.
Speaker 6 (01:09:51):
Yeah, it's easily when. As you said, when when the
trust is gone, the bow is broken. When the bow
is broken, well then the cradle will fall and the
ship will go down. As we learn some lessons trying
to help you out out there, Triple e again, keep
that armor up, buddy, you're gonna need it out there.
As we continue here on the Sean Salisbury Show, Dennis
(01:10:12):
c you want to get in on the conversation.
Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
Let you do that.
Speaker 6 (01:10:14):
Someone three two one two five seven ninety against someone
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car Cash. There are times when yes, it's great you
love each other. There's times we're also too. Let's be honest.
It's like any relationship in life, romantic or just a friendship,
(01:10:37):
it can suck.
Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
No, it's a fact that And the truth is when
they act like one hundred percent everything's perfect in my life,
subtract about thirty percent of that. And that's about where
most people live. You know, every day, some days are good,
some days are some days, he argues, I'm not even
just talking about relationships sometime about life. But social media
can paint a picture one to doom and gloom or
(01:11:00):
oh my gosh, I got the best life in the world.
You can do nothing. I'm rich, I'm happy, I'm healthy.
At my sex life, We're banging seventeen times a day
everybody loves I mean, one of those where it's not
it's not real and we know that and I am.
I'm with them too. My favorite is you'll see the
person post, oh my gosh, I've met my dream my
dream man, and then two weeks later it's complicated. A
(01:11:24):
week later, a week later they're broke up. And a
week after that, there she should no, she's got a new,
she got a new. I met the love of my life. Oh,
I've seen where it's like, oh yeah, man, everything's we
just traveled. And then all of a sudden, you know,
and if you ever noticed too, people that are in
(01:11:45):
a relationship all of a sudden that are I mean,
have plastered all over social media everything they do, every move,
every they take a bite out of a burger, it's
on there. They go to the gym, it's on there.
They date their guy, they take a picture of their
marguerita with salt, but don't tell us where they got
it so we can go enjoy it as well. And
then they tell us how I love there, take a
picture with the guy, blah blah blah blah blah, and
(01:12:06):
then the relationship hits the ground where they're going great,
they're social, they're non existent. Oh I took some time away.
The second they're back on two days in a row.
You know what. You know, relationship ended, they're no longer
in a relationship, so they're back on to hunt and peck. Right, Okay,
what am I gonna? Let's go here? So yeah, the
constantly this, I'm also a little bit flabberg acid. No offense,
(01:12:28):
and I know people are gonna they're not like this,
but I think too many pictures of your young kids
in this world we live in, I don't do that.
I'm not judging the constant pictures of kids. Least some
of these cycles will stalk them out. I'm back pretty
especially Dottie. I get a little protective of that. I
love seeing the pictures of going back to school. But
(01:12:49):
some is you know, he might as well give the
phone number and the address up where the kids live.
You know. That's to me, it just feels too trustworthy
of social media and these nut jobs that are out there.
I'm like, don't don't be careful to to you know
what I'm saying. I guess I'm a little protective over that.
I just and relationships too, But but I'm with you,
(01:13:09):
the constant this, this, this, this, this, that everything. And
the truth is most people, I hate to say, don't care.
They care about their own life. So and then if
you're shoving it down their throat, the ones who don't
have relationship or either say what you're lying Your relationship sucks?
You know, is it's it could be combatant. And I
love when people are happy and they do it and
they get after it. But my favorite is the they've
(01:13:32):
been in the love of their life relationship with five
different people in some months. I'm like, man, man, Well,
that's called serial data and serial social media and probably
a little bit narcissistic and need social media's validation approval.
Everybody likes a like on something or something funny, of course,
but if that's what the relationship's founded upon, then then
(01:13:54):
then maybe you need to start over and get a
little bit of advice. I wouldn't know, but I just
I think that's I mean, I like people who operate
the relationships in private where people say, well, they still dating,
of course they are. They just don't need to let
you know everything they're doing. Well, that's okay.
Speaker 6 (01:14:09):
That's why God invented the mute button for this and
for political rants and for both of those that will
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Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show sales.
Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 5 (01:16:22):
Good morning, Michael.
Speaker 9 (01:16:25):
Hey, how y'all doing this morning?
Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
Good man?
Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
How are you hey?
Speaker 9 (01:16:29):
Pretty good? I just wanted to comment on the last
thing he said. I do agree with the social media
and the pictures of the kids on there. That's absolutely right,
especially sometimes the way they deposing their kids. I don't
need to see your five year old daughter twerkin or
your or six year old son throwing up gang signs.
They really get some up nervous when I'm seeing that.
(01:16:50):
But Sean, I have to disagree with you on the GPS.
It is more of a matter of convenience to have
the GPS somewhat tracked on GPS is not them checking
up on them or anything like that. It's just, you know,
I was just what especially with my kids, you know,
it's the safety issues. And with a girlfriend, I need
to know, you know when you're going to actually be well,
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we're supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
At yeah, listen, and I said kids. I said, I
get while you put it on kids, especially in this
day and age when there's wackos out there, I said
kids for me, and I said, so right. And I
also said for you that may work, which I which
I'm okay with, And for me, I just don't believe
in it. I mean when I say don't believe it,
I don't do it. If somebody tells me they're supposed
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to be there at seven o'clock and they're not there
till seven thirty, then you know, well, people say, well,
then you have it all. I mean, I guess I
don't go into my everyday life thinking significant other, if
you're married or if you're dating, that they're trying to
do wrong or did I got to track it. I
do get convenience for some I understand in some worlds
that may be For me, it just feels it feels
(01:17:55):
invasive and if I don't need it, so I don't
think it's convenient. If I say I'm going to be
somewhere at seven o'clock, you don't need a tracker on
my phone or on my car to to to know
that I'm gonna be there. If I'm not there at
seven o five, call me. If I don't answer, then
then then you can get and then and it's and
it's twelve o'clock. Then then concern kicks and then I
(01:18:16):
know the answer as well, Sean, if I had a
tracker on your phone, then i'd know where to find it.
I get why some do it. I I just don't.
I just know kids. I do one get it. I
think there's enough why. That's why I wouldn't. I don't
sit there and put kids on you know, nine year
old dance into the streets and stuff and let them
know where you live. Uh with kids, because I want
to protect them, even adult kids. I you know, I'm
(01:18:38):
I'm very protected that it's it's it's listen, it's it's
like anything you like. I like Reese's Peanut butter Cup,
you may like kid Cat. I just don't damn does
it because it's convenient for them For me, I would
on an adult if they if they don't have the
the the they can't show up on time on a
regular I don't need to know where they are on
the freeway. If it's the seven o'clock I'm a assuming
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they're going to make the seven o'clock beating on time.
I just make it accountability and I'm assuming that they'll
be there on time. So for some it is convenience.
For me, I'm just going to take their word for it.
If they can't get a hold of me, they either
text or call, or I would do the same thing.
But I do get why some do it kids for sure, adults.
I just in a relationship, I don't need to an
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older woman or grandpa or grandma. Where you're tracking your
mom because she's seventy five. For me, I don't need
to track a thirty year old if you're thirty and
thirty year in my age, I don't need to track
a girlfriend or a wife. I just it's not convenient
for me. It just feels invasive. But I do get
why others think it's okay.
Speaker 6 (01:19:42):
Well, this isn't an accusation, but let's just say that
the other in the relationship is constantly late.
Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Well, if they're constantly late, then I probably at some
point would be a deal breaker. The person who makes
you late to everything you do because they're an hour
all the time. Our personalities wouldn't mix because I think
to me, it's just telling me if I show up
late to everything that we're doing as a male or
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female husband or wife, to me, you're telling me you
don't respect the people in the room. If a teammate
shows up late on a regular basis that I'm the coach,
I'm cutting him. I'm just cutting him. Hey, he didn't
fit in. You show up late. I've told this story man,
Dinny Green. Did Dinny Green, we had a rookie show
up late twice. He cussed out the veterans in a
(01:20:33):
morning meeting. For the guy show up late twice his
morning lift. Rookies had to be there at like six
and then six oh five. Six oh five didn't mean
six oh six. Where he's standing around the weight room
six o five, you're on your bench, ready to go
in your circuit. And if you were late. Steve or
Dinny Green every day asked Steve, how do we do today?
We had one late. Tell me it wasn't a rookie,
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it was coach. It happened again. He goes, tell me
it wasn't the same rookie. He goes, it was. He
stopped the meeting, He cussed out the veterans, and he said,
if he's late again, not only will you guys be accountable,
I will cut him. He will know. And everybody knew
who we were talking about, and so did he. Everybody's
in the meeting room. He didn't say his name, and
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he was never laid again because veterans basically grabbed him
by the nap of the next day we got and
he was a good player and a hell of a
good guy, he couldn't get there on time. And to me,
it's utter disrespect if you're put it this way. If
if you're married and your significant other can't show up
to pick a kid up at school, or show up
on time for dinner, or you're late going to pick
every single day, I wouldn't be in the relationship. It's
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the ultimate sign of team disrespect and relationship disrespect is
to think that your time matters more than your significant
other or your friend or your teammate. If that's the case,
what the hell's GPS going to do? You're just gonna
call up and say, hey, you know you're running late. Yeah,
for the fortieth day in a row. He's just going
to piss me off more. Because now I know where
they are, I can build in the excuse it, Well,
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it's overslept, you're not feeling well. But you can oversleep
and not feel well how many times before I'm like,
you're out of your damn mind. No, that would piss
me off more. If you are constantly late. If I'm
a coach, I'm cutting you. Even if you're my best friend,
I'm cutting you. You're you are late for the fifth
time in a row. You're telling everybody else in the
building you don't respect their time you're out for I'm
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cutting you. You're done. And if I'm in a relationship,
put it this way, I know real quick if I
was dating somebody, it's happened where I just to me consistently.
It's consistent disrespect. That means they'll disrespect everything else. Being
late is most of the times controllable. It's like getting
started ten minutes sooner. I think it's inexcusable the people
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who constantly have to sleep in late and keep hitting
the snooze on there. That's on you. I don't need
a tracker to know that you're not for me. I
would never be in a relationship with a with a
person who was late all the time. I just wouldn't
do it because it would it would irritate something else,
and then I'd get mouthy and I'd start like, okay,
(01:23:08):
well that's cool, and then I would intentionally this is bad,
and I don't encourage this. I'm gonna show up forty
five minutes late for something that's important to you, and
you can say, what are you doing, I'm gonna say, well,
you know what, I just you know what I wasn't.
I got a little bit of a late start. Something
that I'm talking about is mightily important now because because
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when it comes to that, I will keep score. And
I don't like to keep score, but I will. And
to me, you show up late all the time, that
tells me you got a relation, there's a major DNA flaw,
something's wrong. I don't care. If you got twenty kids
at home, I'll take care of the twenty kids. I
won't be late either. Once in a while's fine, I
get it. But if I'm tracking you and you're late
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every day, I'm just gonna be pissed more. I'll get
you all the help. I'll help all you can be.
If I'm with my kids, I'll just leave earlier. You
got to get start. Sometimes you're late it's it's uncontrol ullable,
but it's inexcusable to be late all the time. I
would never I don't care if it was a fifteen
and was a billionaire and the best person on the planet.
If you're late all the time deal breaker for me.
I wouldn't date you in the first place. I just wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (01:24:12):
Well, we all got things we got to put up with,
and Gunnery Sergeant Hartman he finally realized, well, I can't
keep going after private Pile. Now I'm gonna have to
go after the platoon. And we saw all that worked out.
It is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety Dennis Ray,
see you guys, hour three. Get back into the Astros
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Someone three two one, two five seven ninety is the
number to get in. Keep it going on the phone lines,
Ray in Montana wants to weigh in.
Speaker 5 (01:25:47):
Ray, good morning, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 11 (01:25:50):
How are you guys?
Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
Good man, how are you?
Speaker 11 (01:25:53):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Excellent?
Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (01:25:54):
You guys were talking about the being late, and uh,
I was in navy. Trust me, they have ways to
make sure that if you're late once or you know,
no big deal. But if you're habitual later, uh, they're
gonna fix it. And it's kind of kind of brutal,
but you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
And then my, uh, my.
Speaker 11 (01:26:15):
Wife's boss, she's late to everything and she one time
had a speeding ticket and I was like, I asked her.
I was like, how does someone who's late to everything
get a speeding ticket, and so that's just my I mean,
I'll only live a mile from where I work, and
I leave twenty minutes early. My wife drives. I'm sure
(01:26:38):
it drives my wife nuts. But anyway, Uh, you guys,
have a great day and talk to you later.
Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
I appreciate it, right, Yeah, I listen. I don't know
that I do understand people run late. We've been around
people that i'd like and friends of mine. It's just
that I don't trust it. That's why you rarely make
plans with them. I mean, if it's a normal thing,
it would drive me baddy. That's just me, and others
can handle it. That's fine, that's just not me. And
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I don't know how Ray's wife's boss got to be
a boss. There must be a lot of bad leadership,
and that it got to be a boss by being
late all the time. I wouldn't promote anybody that's late
all the time. Imagine in our business, showing up late
five minutes, ten minutes late to the show three days
a week. You're a boss. You tolerting that no matter
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how good the talent is, that the headaches too big
for the talent. That tells everybody else in the building
that your time's not as valuable as that person's sports work.
I don't know how anybody would have a leader that
shows up to the meeting late all the time, and
then I love it. Then then the self importance, Well
I'm the leader, I can show late that another meeting
with other important people. No, actually the people who actually
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make your business, of the people you wouldn't consider as Oh,
then have the vice president or president or see, those
are all important roles. But all the other people were
building it at ESPN. It wasn't the talent on TV.
That's what you saw. It was all the people grinding
their ass off. The production crew and the camera crew,
and the and the interns, and the and the pas,
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the production assistants would make that building go. The talent
just gets it in front of them and gets turned
on a mic and do it and look good with
makeup on and a tot and tie. While I gotta
have talent, I get it, but it doesn't listen. The
easiest thing to do, it doesn't take a lot of talent,
is show up on time. I get what we've all
been late traffic hits. You left ten minutes later than
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you normally would because for what it had that the
dog got out the backyard. Yet, whatever it is, and
you have to go, I get it. It's the we're
talking about habitual every day late. I'm not promoting anybody
that's late every day because the rest of the people
in the building think it's the farest. Trust me, even
if they're not telling the boss, they know, teammates know
who should be playing and who shouldn't show up late
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every day. You're getting cut. I couldn't. I don't know
how anybody can. If but he's in a relationship with
your significant others shows up late every day. I'm talking
about every day on a regular basis to something. They're
late all the time. Please tell me, why, tell me
how that feels, what that's like. How do you tolerate.
I'm curious because I'm pretty tolerant in most stuff. I'm
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pretty patient. I'm intolerant it consistently because it's just a
sign of disrespect. I just don't get it. So I'm
kind of curious how if somebody out there, male or female,
deals with it, And if you haven't, does it drive
you crazy? You just kind of it's cool because everything
else is fine. Because that is a controllable problem in
a relationship. To me, some health isn't. Sometimes you're going
(01:29:43):
to be late. Kids. But when people say, well, I
got five kids at home, I understand, Well, guess what
I guess When I've taken care of three dogs and
kids at home two and my three children and somebody else,
I guess I better start a little earlier. Things happen.
People are gonna be like habitual late people. I can't.
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I can't. I don't follow. I just have never understood.
It's disrespect. My dad hated it, hated it. You tell
me again. And it's also that we've all been in this.
I know a buddy of mine who's got his significant other.
You could be going to the grocery store and got
to do the full that it takes like two hours
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to get out of the house every time you see
and I'm like, I couldn't handle it. Hey, We're just
going down to get a burger and everything got to
get every layer of gut, put a baseball cap on it.
Let's go get a burger and beer. Her that driving
it drives him crazy, but he loves her and everything's fine.
But a guy, we all have our flaws. Trust me,
plenty of them. I got being late consistently ain't ever
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going to be one of them because I couldn't handle it.
Speaker 6 (01:30:52):
Well, it's also too I mean, from the professional standpoint
of it is I mean standards, If you don't have them,
then you're up against it.
Speaker 5 (01:30:59):
In the first place.
Speaker 6 (01:30:59):
But I think there's also a fine line two sean
of micromanagement. I mean, you know it's it's a oh,
well it has to be done this way. Well, no,
I mean this person's different than that person. I mean
it's we see it all the time, even in our
business hosting shows. I mean, remember I told you once
that I worked with somebody who said, I want this
show to sound like the next one. I said, well,
then you're going to have an awful sports radio station.
Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Because if you want to sound like the next Yeah,
if you want to sound like the next one, then
put the same two people on both shows. If you
want to sound like the same thing. I don't like.
And I'm very bandwidth and understanding of situations moments that happen.
I am. But if if you're a boss and you're
one of your salespeople shows up to the meeting late
(01:31:42):
every day, what are you doing I mean, isn't it
telling it? There are all other salespeople or executives or
a sports team or class. What do you what are
you telling me? Like I said, I always just say,
control the things you can control. Even then sometimes we
can hand But for the most part, showing up on
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time is not It is not you can't you can't
be well. You know, for the third day in a row.
Showing up on time doesn't take a lot effort. I mean,
it may take time, or you got to get up
ten minutes earlier. And I know that traffic hits in there,
But I'm talking about that person that you know, damn well,
if they got an extra hour sleep, they'll take the
extra our sleep plus ten and they'll still be in
the same area. They'll still be late. The people that
(01:32:28):
are listening, they say, no, Sean being late, it's just
part of life sometimes if it's it is going to
be part of my life, I will. I would never
ever date a long term or relationship of a woman,
or if I was a woman. I mean, my dad
would have never buried my mother. If my mother he
wouldn't have My dad he just and he loved her.
(01:32:48):
But if she was late, all the time, they had
never stayed in the relationship at the beginning. That's how
I am a damn I'm waiting again, ballgame, You're late school,
you're late church, you're late to other meetings. Not so
much that I if you love somebody to deal with it.
It's what you're the message you're sending to everybody else
that your self importance matters far more than anybody's. Now,
(01:33:08):
if you have health issues and can't get a ride
because you're sixty and you've had a blown out knee
or you've had some health issues, of course, we'll come
to you whatever it takes. I'm just telling that, in
a daily relationship, healthy people in their forties, if you're
late every day, that's that's a top notch deal breaker
for me. I would not stay in it.
Speaker 6 (01:33:27):
I had an old roommate and buddy of mine who
he would be late to work and a few times
he had used car trouble as an excuse. Boss pulls
him into the office and said, you know, hey, late
again to day. You know the car giving you a
hard time. Then he finally, he finally laid down the hammer.
Here he goes, well, here's what I'm going to tell
you either get a new car or find a new job.
Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
Yeah, oh, there's there's no doubt. Well, I don't make
enough to get a new car what you have, and
you're you're definitely not making enough now and turn your
playbook in and I'll see another day because you're done here. Yeah,
I this sympathy of once twice say, I get it. Kids,
you're pregnant, that the guy's been sick, he took over.
You got three kids and three dogs, and the husband's
(01:34:10):
out of town, and moms got all this stuff to
of course I get it, and bosses do too. But
every single day in the same excuse, it's the same
excuse of that person who you don't want it that
you've sent a thousand messages to you know they see
him text you. Oh man, I didn't see your message
for the four thousandth time. Sure you didn't, or I
would have been there on time. Dude, My bad, My bad.
Then then I know, not for me, but I would.
(01:34:32):
There's certain things when you get into Really, would you
get into a relationship with somebody who's stunk all the time? No,
who had bad body? I mean because they didn't shower enough,
or use or didn't brush their teeth.
Speaker 5 (01:34:42):
That's a deal breaker.
Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Okay, so is late for me? I put that under
the bad hygiene. Consistently late shows consistent disrespect for you
and everybody else, And it tells me you don't care
enough about yourself for the people around you. Yeah, if
you're consistently I don't care. If you've got one hundred
dogs at home, you better start a little earlier, Belichick. Hell,
you remember the time then running back had a great game,
(01:35:03):
or a super Bowl game, or a playoff game, great
playoff game, and then it was late during a snowstorm.
Remember Belichick sent him home. He was in Like in
a snowstorm, is late for practice or get into the meeting?
Send him home? Well, if it's a snowstorm, well, Belichick,
you better leave an hour sooner. Yeah, that was my
dad's philosophy. Now, my dad was a construct. My dad
(01:35:24):
would get there. It was like he was routine. Man.
You got to be checked in as a you know,
as a plaster by trade. I'm in by six, in
by seven. The shift starts with seven. He's in there,
sitting in there. Well, whether it's having a you know,
breakfast smoothie at six, at six thirty five whatever his
day sitting there bowling over what his day was like,
(01:35:44):
and he was in the construction world. My dad didn't
show up late. Ever, my dad, my dad did not
show up late. If he told my mom, I'm being
home with dead that's when the GPS would have come in.
If my dad said home at five fifteen, and he
walked in that door at five fourteen every single day,
if he was home at five forty five, we were
all worried what happened? Why didn't My dad was a
(01:36:06):
was a military time, but he didn't talk in military time.
He just felt it was a sign of respect to
get there on time. And I feel the same way.
And in relationship, that's a deal break with me. Just
like you said, bad breath, bad body, older because you
just don't care about yourself. Those are deal breakers in
an early relationship. That's the way I am about the
constant being late to somebody. We're all late. I've been.
(01:36:29):
I've been late plenty in my life, but I'm not consistently.
Once you're late with somebody, once you want to do that,
you want to test the boss again. Not bad idea,
those are those, those are grounds for you better find
a new gig or a new boyfriend.
Speaker 6 (01:36:41):
Well, it's like Greg on what's it not Old school
Belushi the college movie Animal House, as Greg, the frat
guy on Animal House, once said to Blueto, don't you
have any respect for yourself?
Speaker 5 (01:36:55):
I mean, that's pretty much what it is, Sean.
Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
That's what it all comes to others. And when it's time,
it's others time too, because you're more important than the
rest of us, So you can show up late. That's
exactly when we realize you're not that important at all.
And a boss should never show up late. You can't
be a boss and show up late. You just can't.
Speaker 6 (01:37:11):
Well, when it comes to Jordon Alvarez, better late than never,
I feel like is the tenor went approaching him. We'll
talk about the Astros in what we could hope to
see from him this week on the field, trying to
ramp up for a return.
Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
We'll do that right here. It is a Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:37:29):
I'm a Dillard Man.
Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (01:37:34):
As Sean, we get back into the Astros conversation and
the last time the Astros were in town, well, the
day before they left was when we found out the
news about Jordon Alvarez, so of course we weren't expecting anything.
But now they've been gone for a week, they are back.
The fracture at the time was quote sixty percent healed,
which even a week and a half later, I still
(01:37:56):
have no idea what that means. But Dana Brown, we
played the audio yesterday with Robert Ford on Astro Launch
on Sunday, saying that the next step get a bat
in his hands, ramp him up to live pitching, everything
of the sort. Was expected to keep running and doing
all the other baseball activities, just not swinging a bat.
So hopefully if we see him on the field in
(01:38:18):
the cage any other way of him swinging a bat,
that that would hopefully be the final step needed for
him to make his return after about a month and
a half away.
Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
And I don't mean this as a smart ass. I
mean this seriously, and I'll talk to Dana about this tomorrow.
But when when I saw that two sixty percent of
the fracture is healed, is that correct? Is that how
that's correct? Yes? Right? Okay, So in two weeks it
took what was supposed to be a soft tissue issue, right,
(01:38:51):
And like I said, I'm just trying to timeline and
figure out how how quickly people can get back. This
is for how we can get him on the field.
And I'm not a medical staff, and I'm being honest
when I asked this is and having been through a
bunch of injuries, my own, my damn self, and surgeries.
So if if a what was considered initially to be
a soft tissue injury was a couple week, put him
(01:39:14):
on the ten day. Then it went longer and was extended.
So let's say a twenty day and that's for soft tissue.
But then a structural part of a fracture sixty percent
and that was ten days to twelve days ago. We
heard that maybe two weeks. Let's just say two weeks, right,
So is the is the and they say that we
always say we don't rush anybody back too soon. I'm
just looking at logic and timelines. So if two weeks
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ago or a little less than two weeks was sixty
percent of a fracture healed, that's barely half a little
over half. So in two weeks the fractures healed, and
we expect to see him sooner than later. I mean,
I would think that there's a I mean, think how
long it took to heal the sixty percent. So if
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all of a sudden it was a fracture at the
beginning because they you know, swelling went down and they
did more imaging. So he's been out what thirty days now?
Has it been thirty days or more?
Speaker 6 (01:40:11):
Yeah? May the second was his last game.
Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
Okay, ironically enough against the White Sox five weeks. Today's
the tenth of June, So five weeks it took that
that was sixty percent to heal where he was doing
no activity for the most part, so there still was
forty percent to heal. So the forty percent is going
to heal in a week ten days? Shouldn't we expect
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in our time? If so, we're not disappointed. Anything else
is a bonus. And like I said, this is not
a smart ass high being serious. Shouldn't we in our
minds gear up for the fact that, Okay, if it
took thirty days to heal sixty percent and we didn't
even know the diagnosis ten days until two weeks ago,
the full diagnosis that it was a fracture, didn't we
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expect at least twenty more days to heal it or
it's full go, because I know they don't want to
put him out there where he's eighty percent, right, you
want to fracture to heal one hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
Am I correct in this?
Speaker 5 (01:41:15):
I mean that's what they've maintained from the beginning, Yeah,
that they want that.
Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Olate to happen. So you want you don't want rush
anybody back because you don't want to linger. That was
a soft tissue part. And you sure as hell don't
want like Kyle Tucker's last year, fracture his on his shin.
You don't want to bring him back eighty five per
cent ninety percent bound and bang another one to offer
you ort on Alvarez at eighty five or ninety percent.
And you know, even if his threshold of paint says
I can go, you don't want what if you know
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a ball hits there or something you want? You want
to get him one hundred percent. So I guess what
I'm saying is is the forty percent healing faster than
the first sixty percent? Is that where we are? So
what should our expectations be? The gun's going to be
back in a week. That if he's already picking up
bat and not going to go down for assignment live pitching.
And then they don't want to, you know, have him
down there where they takes time. They want to get
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him back as soon as possible. So where is that?
And now is not panic? But is there this sense
of urgency to get him back because of that? I
don't want to say misdiagnosis or because the swelling it
was a little bit of a later diagnosis went from
soft tissue to a fracture on the structure. I guess
what I'm saying, I'm just trying to prepare myself for
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I don't see how if forty percent had to heal
and get stronger as well in two weeks that you
should expect him back anytime soon. I don't tell you
can put a timeline on that. We're judging by that,
I would think you're to be lucky to have him
by the end of the month. But maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe it was it's more than sixty percent. I don't know,
but it seems when two weeks ago on it was
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sixty percent. Even if it's at eighty percent, are you
running him out there at eighty percent heel.
Speaker 6 (01:42:49):
I mean, if you are probably where the Rangers are
right now, then maybe he would even start to have
a little bit of the initiative to try to run
back and be running back to one hundred percent as possible.
Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
So running back suit okay, close to one hundred percent
if you're the Rangers. But if you're the okay, so
what is it if you're if you're a little you know,
if you're four or five games out trying to get hot,
do you running back sooner because he needs bat Or
if you're three or four games in front and six
seven games over five hundred do you wait longer because
you're playing pretty well? Steve Sparks had mentioned they have
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good record without him, and the same thing they had
a hell of a record without Kyle Tucker. My thing is,
you wait till he's healed. Now that we're here and
know the diagnosis, you got to wait till he's healed,
and that you wait till he gets to his one
hundred percent, and when he does or close, then you
go run him out there. So I guess I'm just
trying to figure out the timeline of Okay, sixty ten
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to twelve to fourteen days ago, did the other forty percent,
is it already close to healing, baseball activity getting going?
Do you expect to see him by the twentieth of
June that's ten days from now.
Speaker 5 (01:44:02):
I would bet no.
Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
Yeah, I'm going to go. If that was forty percent,
I'm going to go. You don't see him till a
new month, and then I'm not gonna I mean, that's
twenty days. That's twenty days which would have been like
thirty days plus since the diagnosis of or so since
knowing it was sixty percent that the fracture was healed
sixty percent, it just seemed not only you got to
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heal the fracture, you got to get stronger, you got
to get range of motion, all these things you got
to do. I'm not a doctor, but these things I
do know. But I don't know how long it takes. Again,
each individual is different. So I think you'd be disappointed
or would be irritated if you decided to say we
all played dog and say, at this time next week,
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Jordan's gonna be swinging a full bat. I don't see
how I think that Aaron on the side of caution,
How are you going to see him in the next
fifteen days. Wouldn't that be semi I don't want to
say miraculous, but wouldn't that be semi on the fast track?
Considering that we found out two weeks ago that he
has a fracture on his hand, and as Dana is
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set on our show, those hands are important, especially for
a big guy like that with that torque. We're not
talking about a singles guy. We're talking about a guy
who has the ball, leaves his bat explodes off his back.
So where are you in the okay? Where is the
gap of okay? We're ninety percent, we're good to go?
Is it a full hundred percent? And then he feels
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threshold of pain? Is good to go? I just think
for I think we'll be disappointed if you think this
time next week he's playing full time. If he is,
it would be phenomenal. I just don't think that you
should think that in my judging from what we've heard.
But then again, hell, some guys just heal different and
heal faster than others. But I don't think you're going
to risk running him out there at eighty five percent
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and there's no way that it can be one hundred
percent when ten days to two weeks ago was at
sixty percent on a fracture. There's no way.
Speaker 6 (01:45:57):
Well, hopefully we're in for a surprise later on today
when the Astros get back on the field for batting practice,
warm ups, all those other things to get fired up
for this series and the return back to Dyke and Park.
Continuing the Astros conversation, John, See, you're right there. A
couple of other people want to way in. There's a
couple of spots open if you want to join them.
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Continuing here on the Sean Salisbury Show, the seven ninety
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wants to weigh in. John, good morning, Hey, good morning,
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Gas and Nicky.
Speaker 12 (01:46:41):
I got a I got a question for Buffy y'all,
and I want all opinions.
Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
Now.
Speaker 12 (01:46:46):
I've been I've been watching the THO and uh, I
like the outfield, the Milton.
Speaker 13 (01:46:52):
Uh uh uh Cam and uh and uh myers my yeah, yeah,
thank you, thank you, I like that, I feel I
like that youth, and I like their speed out there.
Speaker 8 (01:47:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
I know that two big.
Speaker 12 (01:47:07):
Bus playing out left field, but I noticed that he
put thirty five there, and I noticed that every time
he playing left field not too productive at the plate.
So my thing is this here, and this is what
I want you all opinion on.
Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
Uh do you do you?
Speaker 12 (01:47:21):
I suggest that they leave them young species out there
the covered field, both corners in the middle, because they're
doing a great job.
Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
Bring a two me back in.
Speaker 12 (01:47:33):
And put them you know, if you got the rotating
by what ruds check him to do that when he's
not the the agent and let him come back and
feel and let them answers take care of that that
I feel out there like they've been doing. And uh,
I want to hear your opinion on that, because I
think if they let them answers stay out there, they'll
save a lot of runs by having them out there.
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I think a two beds running too much out there,
and I think it's zapping a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
Of energy act he can do. I want to hang
up and him all.
Speaker 5 (01:48:04):
I appreciate the call. I mean for right now.
Speaker 6 (01:48:06):
Obviously without Jordon Sean, you have to situate your line
up a little bit more because you want to get
Victor Carrattini involved because of how well he has swung
the bats. I mean not so much as of late,
but that means that jose L Twove probably playing a
little bit more second base, and Jacob Melton being up here. Well,
if he's here, then you want to play him, kind
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of like what we talked about with Cam Smith and
to some degree Zach Dezenzo.
Speaker 1 (01:48:33):
I would one agree. I listen and I get what
uh what he's saying about young outfielders with speed. Let
them play out there. They're going to mix and match
the line. You know this, Dan, Right when Jordon comes back,
he's still going to play some left field. You do
know this, right for sure? And and Al two Bay
is going to spend time out there and they will
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have whether that's like you know, the the Meltains, Decenzos,
Cam Smith, mccorny, m Myers, the group dubon that al
Tuove there, this is, this is who they are. You're
not gonna get left field, centerfield, right field done. You know,
young young young, it's not I do get what he's saying.
Let them police it and take care of the rest
and those young, energetic outfitterers who can run. But this
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is just a team and a lineup that one hundred
and thirty to one hundred and forty times one hundred
and twenty five to one hundred and forty times a year.
You're going to see different players in different positions, and
it's just the way it is. And I get what
he's saying, and I think I think we're a year
or so or two away from it being where it's like, man,
we can put Decenzo in disposition left field and one
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in center, you know, whether it's Jake Myers, and then
Cam Smith and Wright or Melton in his position and
start to work these young and this is the next
generation of hopefully greatness for this team and getting him
in and that young youth. But you're still going to
see veterans out there that may not have the same speed,
just because this team util a lot of days off
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and a lot of lineup changes. They just do and
they put people in different spots to keep them ready,
whether you and I like it or not.
Speaker 6 (01:50:08):
Well, and you're trying to find the most maximum production
that you can have this lineup, which I mean at
times we've seen they've been able to be extremely productive,
but more often than not, we've been left wanting more.
So that involves Mauricio Dumont at second base, who again
fits that same mold. And for you know, for Brendan
Rodgers hit the home run on Friday, but for the
(01:50:30):
most part he's been pretty disappointing at the plate this year.
Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
So that means still going to see some run though,
you're still going to give him run. You're gonna give
him run there. You've got three second basemen, You're gonna
have six seven guys that are going to move around
in the outfield. It's just the way it is. And
Jordon's not Jordon's gonna play some left field when he
comes back if he just is. So they're going to
just continue this who they are. I know Joe said
he didn't want to do one hundred and forty seven
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different lineups this year, But I don't know what they've
been at now. But I don't know if we've gone
three days in a row that you can remember with
the same exact lineup for four days in a row.
Speaker 6 (01:51:03):
First four, first five, Yeah, but after that, Yeah, it
usually moves around pretty.
Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
Good, Yeah, pretty often so, but that's a specialization we're
in and getting people ready just in case. And I
don't think that's going to change here. But a good
point by him, and there's some youth that can run
in that outfield that the future is pretty damn bright
when you look at defensively and offensively what you have
out there.
Speaker 5 (01:51:25):
For sure.
Speaker 6 (01:51:26):
Brandon At wants to weigh in here. Good morning, Brandon,
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
I say, I was playing my game.
Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
That's cool. Ye, sorry, I was playing my game.
Speaker 5 (01:51:35):
Now, that's all good, Bud.
Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
I was.
Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
I was.
Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
Chose when's my callers?
Speaker 5 (01:51:45):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (01:51:45):
So yeah, I mean he's throwing the night against Shane Smith.
So I mean you've got a pretty good track record there.
Hopefully you're able to pull them through tonight.
Speaker 4 (01:51:54):
Actually I'm doing different picture before the game starts.
Speaker 6 (01:51:59):
Okay, all right, so you're working ahead. I see how
you're working here. But we talked about earlier, Brandon that
the Astros got ten games in thirteen days against teams
that are below five hundred, so you expect them to
go on a little bit of a run here.
Speaker 4 (01:52:18):
I'm not going to borrow the lead, but I'm going
to try to.
Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
Get so I talk not score again.
Speaker 5 (01:52:25):
Gotcha? Gotcha?
Speaker 6 (01:52:26):
All right, Well, hopefully McCullers can hold them off tonight
and hopefully you win.
Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Man.
Speaker 6 (01:52:32):
Yeah, did you see the dying by pulling it off?
Speaker 1 (01:52:38):
We did.
Speaker 6 (01:52:39):
Yeah, We've been talking about that all throughout the morning.
The Astros have a three game lead now on Seattle.
Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
I'm happy, awesome man.
Speaker 5 (01:52:48):
Well, hey, good luck in your game and we'll catch
up with you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
Okay, all right, Good morning, Sean.
Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
Good morning, buddy. Appreciate your Brandon, and I hope you
have a great day. Always good to hear from you.
Thank you. Hey, Dan, I do have a quick for you.
What's acceptable the next thirteen games record wise?
Speaker 5 (01:53:05):
No less than seven and six.
Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
Oh, I think we'd be cheating ourselves at seven and six,
don't you.
Speaker 6 (01:53:12):
Well, I mean, i'd like to think that you can
take two out of three at least from Chicago. You
like to sweep, especially after you lost this series to them.
But it's also too I mean, you have to factor
in that Ryan Gusto is going to go in this series,
and unfortunately I can't trust him right now to be
able to put you in position to be able to
win games. And you've gotten good things out of Colton
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Gordon and out of Brandon Walter. But I mean, same deal.
There's three guys in this rotation I can trust. And
it comes down to what we've talked about all along.
You hit, you win games. They don't hit well. Then
we see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (01:53:47):
Say I look at the opposite. You pitch, you win games,
and you hope that you get hitting two extend games
and with a bigger lead. I'd love both. When they're
doing both, they're a pretty impressive force, as are most
teams in the league. When you're on a role hitting
and they it looks like a softball and you're getting
great pitching. So you said thirteen ten of the next
thirteen are sub five hundred, correct. Yes, so they're gonna
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I don't care who's pitch. Yeah, I don't care who's pitching.
Give me, give me. If they're not eight and five
coming out of this, I think it's a disappointing trip.
I understand that you want to win series and the rest,
but if you're not eighting, these are these are pars. Now,
remember you're now playing oakmontt us Open coming up this week, right,
These are the ones that you go into the tournament.
Say man, now at the US Open. Hell, par may
(01:54:30):
win you the damn tournament because the grass is high.
But you get my point that you come out of
this in thirteen games and you're you know, seven and six.
I would not consider that a great run. I know,
it's one game over five hundred and you're doing and
Gusto's pitch, and you got some young pitches, but they're
pitching them because they expect them to do well and
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for the team to elevate around them so they get
more run support, so they don't have to do what
Fromer or Hunter Brown do and go through an eight
inning gym where you give up two hits. So and
if you get it, that's great. But for me, I
can't against the teams and sub five hundred teams, I
think it's inexcusable. Now when you say that, I don't
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mean at that heart, so that's a little hyperbolic. But
to not come out of this three games over five hundred,
when ten of the teams you're playing out of the
next thirteen are sub five hundred. If you're gonna tell
me they're a World Series team, you can't, then then
I don't want to hear that. Yeah, they were six
and seven against sub five hundred teams. Well, ten of
the games there were six and four in those ten
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games against sub five hundred teams and against teams post
five hundred they won the series. That's still eight and five.
That would be eight and five. So to me, you
have got to you you have got to go six
and four and then and then two and three, and
and you know, two and one. I guess in the
next one, you got to get to eight and five.
To me, this is this is where you make those runs.
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Eight and five isn't too much to ask in my.
Speaker 6 (01:55:57):
Opinion, especially to how well the Ash was played in
the month of June in recent years. You'd like to
be able to continue that trend. You're gonna have three
against the White Sox, three against the Twins, who are
the team that's above five hundred, four on the road
against the A's who are not good, and then you're
gonna get three in Anaheim. And you'd like to be
able to at least push the Angels towards what we
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believe they will be.
Speaker 5 (01:56:19):
And that's a team that falls out of contention.
Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
Yeah, I listen, Well, the Angels that we've seen the movie.
I just don't know they have sustainability for a buck
sixty two of this, I just don't Maybe this year's
the aberration. Wash is a good manager. Players respond to him.
He's always had that ability. Yet they're just they're not
as gifted as these other two teams. They've got better
players this year, and they've upgraded in certain situations, especially
(01:56:43):
got a little bit more pitching. But yeah, to me,
keeping count, they don't come out of this with eight wins,
it'll be to me a bit surprising, and they should.
They should win every series they play in in the
next thirteen games.
Speaker 6 (01:56:56):
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Speaker 6 (01:58:26):
They're in ready to work today. If that's not the
case around the league, see that Terry McLaurin in Washington,
he is not there. Trey Hendrickson in Cincinnati the same
deal and TJ. Watt Up in Pittsburgh. They are all
absent from work as they get going.
Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
Yeah, is Hendrickson still contracted? They pay him?
Speaker 5 (01:58:47):
They have not paid him yet, that is yea, yeah,
that is That is why he is.
Speaker 1 (01:58:52):
And he deserves to get paid. Man, I'd be paying
a tell if you want to leave that guy out there.
I know a bunch of teams like stand in line
for that one. So yeah, this time, this final tune
up as far as team tune up goes for most teams,
if not well all teams before you know, guys going
to their individual take a little vacation coaches included, and
come back in July ready to go. So and do
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many camps matter? If they didn't matter, we wouldn't have them,
especially at the time. Why what is a mini camp
matter in June? Sean, Well, what it matters is you're
not bringybody to the ground, you're not hitting people. But
the mental side of gathering information and getting into your
book and understanding that in six weeks we got to start.
It's a head start, and people who don't pick it up,
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it's really easy to lose being in shape and lose
focus during vacation time, it is go take a vacation.
Everybody takes them. Think about your job. Go take a vacation,
and to be going a week or two weeks. When
you come back, what's the feeling. Man? You want to
get back, you're excited to get back. But there's part
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of that it's like, whooh, I got changed my rhythm.
It's safe. They go to a gym workout for a
year straight. I think, man, that was a hard grind
to get myself back to where I wanted to be.
And then take three weeks off or a month off
and do nothing and you feel like you're starting over again.
So the mental grind for this, why listen, nobody's going
to ground. You're not worried about it. You know the CJ.
Stroud can throw a curl route. You want to make
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sure that Nick Chubb understands what we're trying to get
accomplished and more philosophy, what we're trying to get accomplished here,
not just the goals of winning a championship but how
we're getting to it. What you wants one thing, The
why and how you're going to get to it is
another thing. So mini camps are important. And know an
interception in mini camp has nothing to do with the
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throwing in October. But if you made that throw in
mid camp and it was because mentally you didn't understand
the pass route or the coverage, you didn't understand what
you were trying to get accomplished, and you do it
three more times, well, they're in lives. The reason. I mean,
you know you're not seeing it the way that we
intended to. For mini camp. It's just to get a
feel for your teammates and to get an introduction into
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what you're trying to get accomplished. But it is important,
or there would be no reason to have it in June.
They'll take their vacation. But it's like anything, Dan, if
you team to teach me a lesson, if you're a
school teacher, teach us and I don't go apply it
for a week or two right away. The second I
get home or you're training somebody, what happens You go back,
got to do it again. So take what you learn
here and apply it. I know it sounds cheesy, like
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come on, Sean, that's overboard, but for some it isn't.
See the greatest equalizer or the greatest eliminator should I
say in football? I'll just speak for football. It's not
that a guy physically is not good. Everybody that's going
to line up on that field for the Texas, anybody
else's a good player. They were really good in college,
and they dominated in their high school. You know what
it is. The great eliminator is the mental part of
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getting behind. This is a chance to get you ahead
of that first week of training camp when they overload
you with formations, motions, defensive coverage. I'm just speaking from
the offensive side of the ball. Of all the things
that they're going to put in. They're trying to fit
a library in two weeks, a full library, and then
they'll just add to it, and you may never use
the full library during the season. But what gets behind,
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and I've said this before, Dan the receiver who comes
in wants to hang around the veterans during tranking, could
go out and have a beer. That was attention in
mini camp, but really didn't study that much between June
and July. Didn't get his nose into his playbook. And
you know what happens is eight plays, nine passes, five runs,
six formations, four coverages in the morning practice to open
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open training camp. Then go home and take your nap,
and then then we're adding four more formations, three more motions,
four more coverages, six pass plays and five more runs
with different formations in motion. And you're the Z or
the X. You got to play both of it. I
want I want to see it both. And now, oh
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my gosh, if you're not studying the tream prime, then
you go and before you know it, you're a weekend.
The library is in and you're breaking the huddle going
the wrong way? What's the coach thinking? Guys, not preparing
now that he dropped the ball that's going to happen.
You don't give yourself a chance physically if you mentally
don't know how to get lined up. That's what this
is for.
Speaker 6 (02:03:07):
And Hendrickson on the second franchise tag, so he cannot
be franchise tagged anymore, just trying to get a long
term deal.
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Can still they can still give him a long term
deal right right now under the walle he's under the franchise.
Speaker 6 (02:03:20):
Tag, right and that's what he's hoping to get. But
doesn't sound like there's much talking there. But at least
there is talking, and it's already been done, an opportunity
for this Houston Texan. We'll talk about it. John on
the northwest side, see you there. And Chris Gordy actually
going to join us at nine point thirty this morning
instead of his customary nine o'clock spot.
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The Diamondbacks beat the Mariners last night, walk off grand
slam from Josh Naylor to be able to put the
Astros in front of Seattle, three games in the West
and the Texans back on the practice field for mandatory
mini camp later on this morning. Nick Chubb, now here
on a one year, two point five million dollar deal,
can pay him as much as five million. Someone three
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two one two five seven ninety is the number to
get in been talking a little bit of Texans and
John on the northwest side wants to weigh in.
Speaker 5 (02:04:59):
John.
Speaker 1 (02:04:59):
Good morning, Hey Sean, Dan.
Speaker 8 (02:05:02):
What's up man?
Speaker 5 (02:05:03):
They doing?
Speaker 8 (02:05:05):
Hey man, I'm good, I'm good. Look man, I want
to ask y'all about Dalton shops. But let me just
throw this come in out there right quick. Since y'all
was talking about dash doors. You know, ow two Bay
man when he out there running to catch a fly
ball and he either slide prematurity or he shouldn't slide
at all. I can't get mad at him. Man, I'm
just laughing, you know, because it's our two Bay. It's
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a good thing.
Speaker 1 (02:05:27):
He built up so.
Speaker 8 (02:05:29):
Many brownie points with this organization. Man, it's just hilarious.
But this is what I want to ask y'all. Man, Look,
what is your opinion? You know, I was thinking Dalton shooks.
You know it's you know, I'm not gonna lie. He
pissed me off real bad last season. I mean, I
know a tight end can't block these big guys, but
I thought that his effort the block was just so horrible.
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And what I'm thinking, with these receivers and running bags
that can play the slide, that the Texans drafted and Reving.
Speaker 1 (02:06:00):
Jordan coming back and all that stuff.
Speaker 8 (02:06:03):
I think that Dalton Shulkes probably, I hope he's thinking
that he's under pressure, that he's gonna have to do
better this season and make maybe more of an eft
to block because we have this new offensive coordinator. And really,
you know, I wouldn't be surprised if Dalton Shulks find
hisself on the bench and not getting a whole lot
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of playing time with all these guys we have now
that can you know, play that slot positioning like the
receiver that they picked up from the Jaguars that run
the rookie running back. They got a lot of guys
man that can frankly take Dalton Shulke's place and Revend Jordan.
I think he's a whole lot more athletic and a
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whole lot more faster. So what do you all think
about that? You think maybe Dalton Shilkes better watch yourself have.
Speaker 1 (02:06:52):
A good day. He better play like his hair's on
fire under pressure. Let's call it like we see it.
Talented guy. Now, I need more from him offensively, whether
that's play calling in the mix and or quarterback him
same page, if he ain't gonna block. You better catch
a hundred passes because he's not a good blocker. He's
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a detriment blocking as an in guideline scrums. He just
is and that that's not the physical nature you need.
Now listen, are they win pits? Well, Sean Kelsey's not
a physical blocker, just kind of gets in the way, right,
But he's not Kelsey. Hey, that's an outlier. You better
catch a hundred balls. So I think he needs more
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production in the passing game, not just in block I
think I think that position is such an important position
in matchup issues in this league. It just is. If
you've got a guy who can put his hand in
the dirt, go out and play the stand up in
the slot, can go out and run a slant route
or a go route from the outside receiver position, come
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down in motion, motion him out of the back of
that versatility and catch eighty five ninety balls. Will still
lock a little bit, but you got a second tight
end that's basically your physical guy, but your other receivers
creating mismatch problems. If you got a guy who's that
good and he's got his hand in the dirt or
he's standing up and they decide they want to go
bigger personnel. That means a linebacker's covering him. If a
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linebacker covers my receiving tight end, the kelsey's those guys
in this league, the brock Bowers a problem. Brock Barers
is a pass catcher. I got news for you. The
brock Boars isn't going to dominate the line of scrimmage,
but brock Bowers is going to be. He's going to
catch a hundred balls. That's why those guys are rare.
But the mismatch problems you create if you've got a
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guy like the Tony Gonzalez in the past, or somebody
like that who blocks and catches, if you decide to
go big and put a linebacker on him, he's too
elusive for a linebacker. If you decide to go small
and put a nickel corner or a safety on him,
you're too big to those corners. The tightand is too
big to handle. So it's a great mismatch opportunity at
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that position. When you get physical specimens like pits, those
guys are rock Bowers who can run routes from anywhere
on the field. But don't discount how important it is
for that guy to be able to control an outside
linebacker or somebody up in the lane that you got
to go up and get on a safety in the block.
The first down's happened with physicality. Long runs happened from
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blocking downfield and condemn ant the line of scrimmage. And
he's got to get better. Schultz was a detriment blocking
and I'll be I contend that even at the pass
catching position, he's got to catch more and he's he's
got some skills there. So yeah, if he's not looking
at his competition, then he's probably going to about it wrong.
He's not a sacred cow. He's going to have to
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play well to get all the run he wants there.
Good player, but he's got to do more, and I
expect more from him. But he's never going to dominate
blocking the line of scrimmage, but he at least got
to give an effort. You got to pretend like you're
at least getting in the way of a guy at
a time he was ny. I could have taken a
sixty year old to put his hand in the dirt
and block better. He's got to be better. If not,
then somebody else will. Pretty simple well, I think there's
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a few things to consider here too. I mean, the
last couple of years they've invested in the draft and
tight end in blocking guys Kate Stover, Luke Lache out
of Iowa. This year, if those guys are here to
be able to add that physical presence to the position,
and I want to go jumbo and put multiple tight
ends in the game, no doubt. Sure.
Speaker 6 (02:10:26):
And I mean, and it does sound like that's what
Nick Cayley wants to be able to do this year.
I mean, John mentioned Brevin Jordan getting him back. I mean,
and another reason too, you weren't getting production out of
that spot. Irv Smith Junior, a guy that I think
had a lot more promise coming into the league hasn't
necessarily lived up to it. You signed him during the
middle of last season, so you've kept him around for
a reason to be able to, I guess, be able
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to try to find any production possible in that spot.
But I mean it also gets back to you know,
with Schultz last year, the injuries you had at the
receiver spot, was he good enough to be able to
overcome those And the answer was no. So if you're
having a guy it's a pass catching tight end and
he's answering no to that question, then Sean, I mean
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it kind of gets to a point of what are
you doing with the guy?
Speaker 1 (02:11:12):
And if the tight end is it right? If the
tight end position put it this way again, if my
veteran tight end getting paid is making is giving me
the same production as a younger guy who's coming off
the bench, why am I playing it? Starting it? That's
my point I got to And I think Schultz' is
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a talented guy. I was when they brought him over
from Dallas. I thought, Man, it is a pass catcher.
This is a good, good weapon. They've got to expand
the tight end position. They absolutely, whether it's a commitment
to it in the meeting room and a play calling
and I personally don't care if it's my committee, I don't,
but it's got to be at least a threat. It
can't be a I'll put my pass rusher over there
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and it's they can't block anybody or in the past
catching it's okay. If I'm going to play off this
tight end, he's going to catch twelve balls in the game.
And I don't think right now opposing teams fear that position.
With the Texans, it'd be nice if they did. And
there's a lot of teams that we may be saying
the same thing about. But you brought Schultzen here to
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be more productive, and he absolutely has to be because
on an offensive line, the one thing I do know,
you can block four of them or five of them.
If there's one that you don't block, inevitably that's the
guy that's going to get you. So I can as
a defensive tackle, I can miss a tackle, but my
linebackers two yards later there to clean up. As an
offensive lineman, if I'm not getting help from a back
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and I'm opposite side of that, and it's me and
my guy, and my guy beats me and my other
four guys protect or five guys in the tight end
misses a linebacker block because he can't handle it, or
a tackle at the line of scrimmage, you got to
everybody's got to do their job. That's the one position
where five guys got to play like one and even
a six. Now, obviously, if you had a tight end
who's in a blocking situation or he's a out and
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you got to block a linebacker a strong safety from
the a tight end slot, position, so to me removed.
So it's this for them to get even better. The
tight end position has to be more productive with their
hand in the dirt and running routes.
Speaker 6 (02:13:15):
Well in one of those backs that can help out.
Nick Chubb mentioned, you know the Texans signing him to
a one year deal, and I mean it's very much
a hey, here's an opportunity, make the most of it.
But I think the other part of it too, Sean
is I mean, he's twenty nine years old, realizes there's
not much football left in front of him. This is
a team that he looks at and says, I could
go there, be able to help this team out improve
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their running game by taking some carries off of Joe
Milton or Joe Mixon's plate, and to be able to
again give myself a chance to continue my career, even
if it's not here in Houston going forward, and even.
Speaker 1 (02:13:51):
With competition pushing Mixon to even be better than he
already is. There's no doubt abou him to think what
you just said. That isn't it amazing? You just said
I'm and there's not much football left the league about
didn't think about that? You're twenty nine and like thirty
years old becomes the cut of it. Is a thirty
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year old who doesn't have a one hundred yard rushing game.
The first time he carries it posts thirty, we think
he's done. It's crazy how that is, But you're right.
At twenty nine, this is the prime of their career.
This is trying to get one good season to milk
another two or three year deal that gives you, you know,
postseason secure, post career security. So in the next two
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or three years, this is Chubbs go. And this is
a good guy to get because right now he takes
a lot of pressure off your play action game and
puts pressure on defense and takes them. Lets Joe have
a little bit of leeway, and you don't worry when
he goes to the bench that there's not a veteran
that can come in there and tote the ball for
him or pick up in the blitz, pick up or
anything else, or won't be a pro. Nick Chubb's a pro.
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This is a good GIT. I'm just telling you, I
think it's a very underrated git, especially now this close
to training camp and a healthy Nicheub that's a strong
monster and a football plan. Jesse that we'll get after it, yeap.
Speaker 6 (02:15:07):
Hopefully he is able to reach that goal this year
in at twenty twenty five with the Texans. Let's get
into the Astros again because this has been a strength
for the team, and is this guy making it even stronger.
Speaker 5 (02:15:20):
We'll talk about it right here.
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On Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (02:17:39):
The astros sean starting up the series, and I mentioned
Lance mccullors junior getting the start and mentioned how good
he's been his last couple of times out. You'd love
to make it three straight starts of at least a
quality outing where he's done that the last two times
the Athletics six innings, struck out twelve in that start.
Then he was able to get the win against the
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Pittsburgh Pirates again six innings, no urn runs, only two
hits and he strikes out seven.
Speaker 1 (02:18:07):
Let's say he has a No.
Speaker 11 (02:18:08):
No.
Speaker 1 (02:18:09):
Seven and two thirds ninety five pitches. Let's go.
Speaker 5 (02:18:16):
I'll take that deal right.
Speaker 1 (02:18:17):
Now, No No through the eighth ninety nine pitches. You're
running him out there in the night. You're up three
to nothing.
Speaker 6 (02:18:25):
He would definitely want to you're up three to nothing,
I would think that probably Joe ninety nine pitches, I
think that probably he'd say, let's not chance it, especially
with the way that Lance has been throughout his career
with workload.
Speaker 1 (02:18:40):
I'm pitching him, he walks the first guy and gets
a base, Yet I pulled him out. I gotta give
him a chance. I know people say, well, he's been hurt.
I hear it all the time. Well, I mean, and
you're right that part of it, Well, the history the
last two years. Then I say to myself, is ten
extra pitches, twelve more pitches going to be the difference
in if that's our mentality for me? I did. I
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been talking to some old school guys in the past
that have pitched in Major League Baseball or played It
would be very hard. It'd be very hard for me
to take away that opportunity three to nothing. It would
almost matter of fact, I'm boosting his confidence, saying, dude,
this comeback years has been sensational. Twelve strikeouts, seven strikeouts.
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Now for your third one, I really got a chance
at a no. Ninety nine pitches and just let him
know we get a runner on base, from a walk
or a base that I'm pulling out, or we have
long at bats and you know then I gotta get
you out. But I'm going to give a chance to
establish he can go out there and get three clickouts.
I'm gonna I'm going to make the decision that twelve
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extra pitches isn't going to be the difference in his
career or not. I'm going to believe he can handle it.
I'm running him out there now. This is just for
fun and hyperbole. I don't know if we're going to
get to that, but when that decision comes, I would
have to leave him in.
Speaker 2 (02:20:01):
I would well.
Speaker 6 (02:20:02):
In the last few times that McCullers has been out,
the walks have gone down to He did have three
in his starts against the Mariners, where he went four
in a third, but only one walk given up against
the A's and only one against the Pirates. He did
hit a batter in that Pirates outing, but still again
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seven strikeouts in that win, which was his fiftieth of
his career too, So hoping to be able to get
win number fifty one tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:20:31):
Yeah, and I think you're probably right. I think they
probably would pull him out ninety seven to ninety eight
pitches eighth inning, no hitter, Probably I think i'd have
to let him go one aning, but you're you're probably right,
but I'm greedy. I'd want him to go get the
no no. I'd want to see what he did with
the first hitter. If he looks smooth, I'd let him
finish it. I've always said his ten pitch is really
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going to be the difference in whether he's hurting the
next start. Maybe it is that I probably here on
the side of aggressiveness with it, just because I think
it would make it confidence wise in show believability. With
this case in particular, I would leave him in.
Speaker 5 (02:21:05):
Well, just he goes.
Speaker 1 (02:21:05):
He's got the ability to dan to know no. People
for sure may no no you with three walks or
full but he's got enough stuff that even this quickly
in a comeback, he gets enough swing in this he
could induce a problem like that. Especially I guess the
team you're supposed to beat, even though they're playing decent.
I would love to see it. I'd love to see that.
I'd love to see us talk about that tomorrow. That'd
be awesome.
Speaker 5 (02:21:26):
Well, and it's funny too.
Speaker 6 (02:21:27):
You bring up that scenario, because the same thing kind
of happened with Fromber against Gosh, would they beat two
to one? Oh, it was the race that night where
he had gone the complete game, he'd pitched all nine
innings in the following day because he was at like
what eighty three pitches, I mean, he was well south
of one hundred. And we had asked Joe Hey that
tenth inning, would you have run Fromber back out there?
(02:21:49):
And he, unfazed, just said no, that would have been Hater.
And his reasoning was sound for that one because of
the situation. He goes, I wouldn't want to put Fromber
out there with the runner on set ends, and he's
not necessarily used to that, where Hater has pitched in
that situation numerous times.
Speaker 1 (02:22:05):
I'll go with him. That makes sense, well, complete sense. Well, now,
the only the only you know, the counter to that
would be eighty three pitches. Right, You say, okay, let's
let's let's see it. But he's exactly right. You're going
on there. You've inherited. It's just a different optic for you.
It's not a different optic for Hater. It's not a
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different optic for somebody in the bullpen. They're used to
pitching out of that stretch with the guy on before
you've even pitched anybody in extra nings. That's they get it.
But that part I do get, although it would still
be tempting. The situation would be to now go through
nine innings and he gets and he's got a no
hitter and it's tied zero zero, or you know, whatever
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whatever reason ye have. Then with the colors, then you'd
have to say, Okay, now we've got past the threshold
of one hundred pitches. He did his gig. We got
to get him out. You can only go so much.
But I have always aired on the side of airing
for the player as opposed to against him when it
comes to a situation, because those don't present themselves very often.
And I know the answers well, at the expense of
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a career and a and winning a World Series, do
you do you really do that this early in the season.
But no hitters matter to players, they just do. They matter,
and maybe not more than a championship, although I'm sure
there are some athletes that an m v P or
a Cy Young or a you know, an m VP
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in football matters more than a Championship ring. I didn't
Cam Newton say he'd rather win an m v P
than the Super Bowl. I believe he did this past year.
I think he said he would rather win an m
VP than a super Bowl. And to me that that
that's blasphemous. It just it just is. So I think
(02:23:50):
it's a I don't know, m VP means you did it.
But this is a team game, not golf for tennis.
I can't fathom you asked me if i'd love to
do both. Maybe if you win a super Bowl and
you're the quarterback, that you were the MVP because your team,
you know, you played good all year to get your
team there. But you give me the choice, you'd keep
the MVP. I want the ring, especially if I'm the starter.
I want that. I want the ring, no doubt. I
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think that was a part of the team. Yeah, I agree,
But in this case, the no hitter I would air
because you don't know how many time it's going to
pass away again. Now one hundred and thirty pitches, he's laboring.
Of course, there's common sense, but to me, if a
guy's going good and he's ninety two pitches and going
into the ninth inny coming off an injury, well sewn,
Do you want to risk it? I just go back again.
Would ten extra throws in my arm have forced rotator
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cuff surgery if I'd had to throw in fifteen extra
balls at the end of a football game. The answer
to that is absolutely not laboring. Maybe it's like, dude,
your mechanics are changing. Now you drop out of slot.
Now the mechanics are different, so the arm angle is different.
Now you're putting yourself in an injury situation. But from
optics and things look good in velocity, I'm not going
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to judge it on well, he's a ninety four pitches.
The threshold to me is where's the velocity is he
spot in his pitches? And how does he feel? And
I'm always going to err on the side of giving
the player the chance to achieve something that most don't
get a chance to achieve, as long as it's not
at the expense of his arm falling off like an
idiot would or costing my team for selfish reasons that
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the player becomes bigger than the team. But if it's
that situation, and I'm gonna look in his eyes and
if I can see and the optics tell me he's
going good. I have a problem with him pushing that
threshold and trying to get the no hitter because he'll
never forget it, and they'll also never forget the trust
he showed in him, short of you walk a guy,
or you've walked four guys and you lead off, walk
in the eighth inning, and let you get through the
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eighth inning. But I'm not running back out there in
the ninth no hitter or not if you've got one
hundred and eight pitches and we started to see velocity
fall off and your ability to spot pitch has become
a problem, but I'd love to see it. I'd love
to have this argument tomorrow if it happened. Should he
or shouldn't you have right? I would love I would
love to have that conversation.
Speaker 6 (02:25:56):
Well, hopefully we can't have that conversation tomorrow starting at
six am, But anyway, it is a Thursday, and that
means that it is Chris Gordy courtesy of Carbach Brewing.
He joins us right here for his one of two
weekly visits here on the show. Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 6 (02:28:04):
The seven ninety listener line here in the nine o'clock
hour is presented by one eight hundred car cap. We
didn't do all thirteen games, but it was what is
acceptable for you at the end of these thirteen games,
where ten of them are going to be against teams
that are under five hundred.
Speaker 5 (02:28:19):
Currently.
Speaker 6 (02:28:20):
We'll see if that remains the case with the Angels.
But I mean, is this same, you know, stretch of
games where it is a softer part of your schedule.
You look at it and sean throughout eight and five.
I said, seven and six is fine with me. Yeah,
I mean you got to take care of business. I mean,
weird things happen on those West Coast games. By the way,
I stayed up and watched for some reason, what was
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last night Monday? On a Monday night on FS one
at midnight, I was watching or Diamondbacks Mariners, and the
the Diamondbacks had I think it was a four to
nothing lead or four to the ninth, Yes, and then
give up a bomb and it's like what in that
world is happening? And they finally get it done in extras.
So that was nice to get the lead back to
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three in the division. But you know, again, weird things
happen when you go on on the road out in
those West Coast games.
Speaker 14 (02:29:08):
You realize every game next week is a late night game,
Like it's either an eight thirty eight first pitch or
a nine oh five first pitch. So there's gonna be
some late nights next week for the Astis. But look,
you come home. You start today with Chicago White Sox.
I mean two out of three at minimum. I'm just
telling you the White Sox stink. You ought to sweep them.
The Twins after this, you know, are kind of they're
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like the Guardians. They're right there nipping at your heels.
So in terms of American League standing, so yeah, you
want to You played so well at home. You just
had a nice little road trip where you took two
out of three or two out of three. So I
expect them to, you know, four and two on this
home stand and go go take care of business against
the low Liais and Angels.
Speaker 1 (02:29:51):
So to go seven and six or sub five hundred
on this trip, Gordy, I don't want to unacceptable, maybe
the wrong phrase to use, but in order to be
a championship caliber team, and you have to burdy these holes. Correct,
So eight wins, nine wins you get in two of
these series at home, Oakland, you should handle. I mean,
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this really looks like one of those where Dana Brown
who talks about we can get when we get going,
we'll hitting on all cylinders. This is the chance to
get on all cylinders, even though you don't have your
full lineup out there, and go win nine or ten
of these and extend this lead heading into middle of gym.
Speaker 14 (02:30:28):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, absolutely have too, searn, because I've
talked about this for weeks. That two week stretch you
have right before the All Star Break is pretty brutal.
I mean, you get three against the Felies here at home,
who have really good pitching, and that offense isn't very
bad either. Then get three against the Cubs, who've been
such an improved team this year with Kyle Tucker there.
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Then you go up to Colorado for three. Now that's
an easy one, right, I mean, ball should be flying
out of the ballpark. I hope Jordan Alvarez is back
for that trip because he'll be hitting bomb after bomb.
But then you got to go to Dodger Stadium July
fourth weekend, play three against them, last I check they
don't suck, and then you come home for three against
Cleveland and three against the Rangers. Again, Rangers have kind
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of fallen off here a little bit, but still have
great pitching and they're gonna give you everything they got.
And Cleveland right, there is neck and neck with you
battling for you know, seating in the in the American League.
So I'm with you, Sean, those last two weeks right
before the All Star break are going to be tough.
Rack up the wins now while you can. And yeah,
if you get to that Philly series and you got
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a five, six game lead on Seattle, heck you lose
to our three to Philly, it's no sweat. It's like,
all right, fine, at least we built up that separation.
Speaker 1 (02:31:39):
Right, you'd sure hake to go, you know, six and
seven on this road trip and get to that and
where you're having a rough time and you know, they
get to you and before you know it, you go
into the All Star break and you're down three games
in the division. Yeah, these are the ones that give
you a four stroke lead in a tournament that makes
everybody chase.
Speaker 6 (02:31:56):
And I prefer those. That's all my point is for sure.
And you know we've been talking a lot today about
Lance mccullor's junior. He's gonna make the start tonight, and
what you've been able to get the past couple of
times out, I mean, is it getting to the point
where if he has another one of those tonight that
this is the expectation for him going forward.
Speaker 1 (02:32:13):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (02:32:14):
I mean, look, don't don't get me wrong.
Speaker 14 (02:32:17):
I mean the two outstanding performances were against the Pirates
and the A's, two of the worst offenses in the country.
But to me, you know, I just he's been so
much better, you know, statistically speaking, and he's starting to
get that pitch count up. You know, that was ninety
six pitches last time out at one oh two. The
time before that against Oakland, six innings in both of
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his last starts. This is the real lance McCullers. And
thank god he's looked like this because you know, he's
been asked to be your number three guy right now
and you're getting by, you're making new with your Colton Gordon's,
your Brandon Walters and you're Ryan Gusto's. But to me,
mccullar's has to be on. He's your three. You know
what you're getting from from Burn Hudder Brown at the
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front end. But yeah, mccullor's has to be the guy.
And so tonight, you know, we'll be interesting that they
gave him an extra day's rest, didn't pitch him on
Sunday to kind of you know, just make sure he's
feeling good and all that, and you're pitching against the
White Sox I mentioned, you know, he did it against
Oakland and Pittsburgh too. The worst offenses. Chicago is one
of the worst offenses. To go take care of business tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:33:21):
Hey, Gordy, what did you expect in true just your
personal feelings, What did you expect you were going to
get from McCullers this year, before all the before, before
he got his first start, Did you think he'd be
sitting here saying this.
Speaker 14 (02:33:32):
No, No, I honestly did not think this. I mean,
you know, the look the era at four forty four
is really ballooned up from that one red start. You
take that red start out. I mean, he's got an
a race up three. I mean he's been he's been
outstanding in all these other games, and I thought I
thought you'd get some ups and downs, you know, five innings.
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I didn't think he'd be worked up this quick. In
other words, going six innings in his last two starts.
I didn't think he'd be here now. So you know,
he's got the swing and the miss stuff. The strikeout
totals are up there at the twelve against Oakland, two
starts to go. Yeah, he's to me, he's ahead of schedule.
This is better than we thought. Although on the flip side, Sean,
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I thought we'd be talking about mccullor's being the four
or the five, right, Like I thought we'd have a
healthy Spencer Raghetti and we'd have a healthy Hayden Wsnsky
and Runnel Bloco. So you know, I thought that it
was gonna be one of those things. Okay, well, maybe
he'll put tune, maybe we'll go six man rotation. But
obviously injuries happen and he finds himself as the number
three starter now, so good on him for getting himself right.
Speaker 1 (02:34:37):
He's been outstanding.
Speaker 6 (02:34:38):
Chris Gorney joins us every single week courtesy of Carl
Bach Brewing and going to the game as a fan
tonight first time all season long. And I mean, Gordy,
I gotta be honest with you, it's a Tuesday Nights
dollar dog night. I'm on the fence. I mean, I
know that you know Crawford Bock is there, but I mean,
you know it convinced me a little bit here.
Speaker 14 (02:34:57):
Well, I can't get you a discount, but I can
get you dollar hot dogs and I'll save you a
couple bucks more money to spend on the Crawford back
over there Carbock Brewing. It's all over the ballpark, you
know when you see it the Tequilo Center, ice stripes
on the can. I love it when you get it
in the draft. But of course the big tall cans
can't go wrong with those. They can last you a
couple innings sitting there watching the Astro. So grab yourself
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an ice cold Crawford bogber right here in Houston, Texas
at Carbock Brewing, and you know whatever you're chowing down
on nachos, hot dogs, chicken fingers, it goes perfectly with
anything you're having there at the ballpark, and goes especially
better when the Astros win. So grab you an ice
cold Crawford bought tonight at dyik And Park.
Speaker 5 (02:35:35):
Yeah, and I'm convinced. Now I'm back in Sean. I'm
good to go.
Speaker 6 (02:35:39):
Not too many though, I mean that early wake up
it definitely puts the snag on thing. But anyway, appreciate it, Gordy.
Always great to be able to catch up with you,
and hopefully, yes, the Astros can be able to take
advantage of this home stand.
Speaker 5 (02:35:53):
One guy that you'd love.
Speaker 6 (02:35:54):
To see be able to take advantage of this home stand.
He's had some good things happened to him, but also
not so many things. We'll talk about him here as
we continue on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:36:07):
We want to wait.
Speaker 2 (02:36:08):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (02:36:11):
I was thought of as being a Taylor Scott hater
and I said, no, no, no, you're looking at him.
Speaker 1 (02:36:16):
Remember any time you said you hated him? Remember that
time that never came out of my mouth?
Speaker 5 (02:36:20):
Sir, wasn't you no erroneous? Erroneous on all accounts?
Speaker 1 (02:36:24):
I just your erroneous zone. I could have swore Tripoli
and I talked about it. We were after one show.
We were like flabbergasted. Yeah, and all the callers it
was like, really weird you like that. I just hate
Taylor Scott as a picture, as a human being. As
I remember, remember when you said that you hated where
he was from. I mean, although you hated his birthday
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all of that, so it was just kind of weird Dan,
how you just hated him that day?
Speaker 8 (02:36:49):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:36:49):
I mean, have you been for forgiveness or what I mean,
you know the social media in the fan they're always right.
I mean, you know, nobody misconstrueded. I remember the word hate,
I hate Taylor Scott coming at you. I mean, don't
you remember that Triple League.
Speaker 6 (02:37:02):
I didn't even go for the mustache. I mean, Terrell
Owens in this situation right here, Yeah, you guy. You
guys are Tony Romo, Jason Whitten and Jason Garrett. You know,
holding no secret meetings.
Speaker 5 (02:37:13):
That's what this is.
Speaker 1 (02:37:15):
Yeah, I mean, it wasn't. SEQ was just talking about
and I remember a couple of people in the in
the building, a couple of salespeeks, and why does Dan
hate Taylor Scott? It was so weird. I didn't I
mean I didn't. I was like, I don't know. And
you guys heard it too. It was kind of weird, subliminal,
the old Yeah, it was weird.
Speaker 5 (02:37:33):
The old, the old side mouth. Hey, Sean, well, what's
what's the deal with Dan?
Speaker 1 (02:37:37):
Like you know, well they asked the deal, what they
asked with the deal, and they said, well, Dan's great,
but he hates Taylor Scott. It is weird. Yeah, I
don't know. Hey, who's counting though, who's keeping score well,
I mean.
Speaker 6 (02:37:47):
Well, I mean, at least you know the stats are
the ones that are counting. Because you've got Christian Walker
hitting two o seven with the six nineteen o ps.
Speaker 5 (02:37:56):
He does have eight homers. That's nice, twenty nine runs
batted in.
Speaker 6 (02:37:59):
Now you'd like for that to go up a little
bit more, But I have a hunch because he has
hit well at diyk in Park this year, that'd be nice.
And the average, like I said, sitting at two oh seven,
I'm gonna go on a limb right here, Sean, He's
gonna go on such a heater here that that average
bumps up to two twenty three at the end of
this Homestand I'll buy that.
Speaker 1 (02:38:22):
So that'll mean that you don't because I remember when
you said you hated him too, So will that help
you from hating him if he has a good Homestand
I mean, excuse me, I remember when you said his
name's Christian Walker, but does he have any religion in
his vat? Remember when you said that it was really weird.
Speaker 5 (02:38:37):
I wish, I wish I couldn't be enough to come
up with that line. Yeah, because that actually is a
pretty good one.
Speaker 1 (02:38:42):
But yeah, what Yeah, during a break one day, you
ran that you had to run out of the restroom
or get a cup of coffee. I can't remember. In
Triple God Mary, he said, man Seawan is okay? I said,
what what do you mean? He said, does he really
hate Christian Walker that much? I thought it was only
Taylor Scott, So no, I think he really likes Christian Walker.
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Dan just Hia has high expectations of him. But I know,
I know when you heard the word hate, he didn't
really mean it. It was just kind of a passing thing.
So hopefully we'll get some big production out of Christian
Walker so you can get back to loving him Dan,
because we don't want we don't want any hatreds.
Speaker 5 (02:39:18):
I just want to stay off the war path.
Speaker 6 (02:39:20):
That's that's how it is, Okay, Like I just I
don't want to be making my rounds and it's you know, oh,
here comes Dan again. Like you know, you just you
don't want to be known as the angry guy around
the office, and that's.
Speaker 1 (02:39:30):
Here comes the guy. Yeah, here comes the guy who
hates jose Al Tovey.
Speaker 5 (02:39:34):
Yeah, that one, that one won't happen.
Speaker 6 (02:39:37):
Like I always love, you know, the people he has
jose Al Tuove ever thought of doing this. I shut
that down every single time. I'm like, hey, look, jose
al Tuove has over two thousand hits and has gotten
more clutch hits than we can ever you know, think
of in an astros Uni. The last thing I'm ever
going to do is try to analyze analyze how.
Speaker 1 (02:39:59):
Jose L two V has his plate approach. It's worked out, well, yeah,
it fine. It finds a way to work itself back
into a hot streak. It usually does, right, for sure.
You have no hate for Taylor Scott or Chris Walk.
Speaker 8 (02:40:11):
You.
Speaker 1 (02:40:11):
I have expectations so today, and I would like to
see Christian watch Walker reach those this weekend with not
only the average but the power back. If you gave
me one of the two the slugging, hell, I'll take.
I'll take, you know, a hit or two a game.
But you know, when we come out of this, we're
in thirteen games. He's hit four home runs, that'd be great.
I'd take that with you. But give me give me
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eight nine wins in these next thirteen games, and I'll
consider that big heading Towards the end of July. It
definitely should, I say, into June.
Speaker 6 (02:40:41):
It definitely would be nice. It'd also be nice to
be able to give Lance mccullors junior some run supports.
And I've won to one on the season with a
four point four to four e RA, so hopefully the
Astros can make them two and one at the end
of this and with the win, I like it, I
like it, We'll.
Speaker 1 (02:40:58):
Go with it.
Speaker 6 (02:40:58):
Right here Astros and White Sox tonight starting up a series.
He's Shawan Salisbury Triple, Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews with no
hate in his heart right here on the Seawn Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety, The Matt Thomas Show with Ross
coming up next, right here on your home of the
Astros and the Rocket.
Speaker 5 (02:41:16):
Sports Talk seven ninety. We will talk to you in
twenty hours
Shawburysbury Hot.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc Troup's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
To do this series on the ground with Chuff usually
a good idea taking on tacklers.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We'll push that pile all the way to the thirty
yard line.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
No whistle can Nick Chubb forceful one.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Let's see where the officials will mark this one down.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's gonna be a run of eighteen and a first
down by Chubb.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
I'm such a big fan of Nick Chubb.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Suck it down at six Chub again, Shock's got the
first down.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Colonel's other defender inside that time, touchdown Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
The Browns are on the board thirty three yards for
Nick Chubb. But this ny you see sitting.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Up the nights in a puddle for Nick Chubb.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Went up, but Mike Hill and I've got fourteen.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
High fly ball way back Josh.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Never all the way to the wall and it's a
walk off.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
Crab swam and on a wild night here at Chase
Field and the diamondback saw for nothing to out ninth
in a lead Spanish They went at eight to four.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
And that is how we start this morning. Away we
go and good morning here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
No Astro scheme last night.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
So Nick Chubb highlights for you because he has signed
with the Texans on a one year, two point five
million dollar deal, could be upwards of five million. But
while you were sleeping, the Astros were able to create
some space between them and the Mariners. You've heard Steve
Berth Hume on the Diamondbacks TV call with the Josh
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Naylor walk off there in the bottom of the eleventh
they beat the Mariners eight to four. So the Astros
sean interplay today, three games up on the Mariners for
first in the AL West.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, good to talk to you, man. It's always nice
to gain ground or excuse me, extend to your ground
when you're not playing. It's always a good thing. So
they'll take that get back to work, White Sox plan better.
But it should be a good start to a series
for the Astros. And yesterday's signing, if Nick sub stays healthy,
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which I'm assuming he will, will prove to be a
very underrated signing in the NFL this year. The division
all across the board, I think it's a great junior
get and having to Nick Chubb as a part of
it makes everybody better offensively, I assure.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
You yeah, And I mean as me and you talked
about yesterday with Chubb, it's not about, you know, is
he still the player of the past. I mean, you know, Sean,
I've talked about it numerous times. It's not about him
being that guy anymore. He's not being asked to be
the primary guy. He's being asked to bring some of
his physical running style be somebody who can be a
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compliment at this point, and who knows. I mean again,
he's betting on himself. The Texans are betting on him
that this could be kind of an even more extreme
version of when George Fans rejuvenated his career here in Houston.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh. I would say it's a much bigger deal than that,
meaning you get a guy who's going to have to
be probably will be more impactful or at least noticeable
because he plays the position that we see. You know,
he's a perimeter guy. So I don't even think it's
a rejuvenation of his career. I mean, yes, it's a
comeback because of the injury, but when the guy's been
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on the field, it's never he lost his skill set.
So if I'm him, I prepare that well. You know,
I know we got two backs here, guys that have
had Pro Bowl, top caliber seasons in their career, and
he and Joe Mixon. But I don't think Nick Chubb's
coming into this thing. It's just gonna be, my opinion,
be a great teammate. He's not a talker, as we've
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talked about yesterday. I think he'll prepare the shoulder any
load they give him. And so while yeah, he may
not have to be the Nick Chubb that was a
Pro Bowl caliber player, he still may be. Or the
time when an injury to the lower half, notwithstand SAMs,
maybe a achilles. And even if it is, the way
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these guys come back from this stuff's phenomenal. Nick Chubb's
not forty. I mean Nick Chubbs still got game in it.
So I don't think this is just a guy that
signed it. And what's the risk two and a half
million bucks in an NFL where rookies damn near make
a million or what's seven hundred thousand a year, they
can't the rookie, you can't make anything less now or whatever.
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It is six hundred and seven to fifty. So you're
paying a veteran, former Pro Bowl type player. It was
a bel cow back just two and a half years ago.
This kind of money, that's not that I mean, this
is basically that stuff you need. Oh he's a camp guy.
This is not a camp guy. And they know this.
I'm just telling you his game's not gone. The injury
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got lost in the shuffle. All the bad quarterback play Cleveland.
It's easy to get lost in the shuffle there because
of the way their football franchise has been. Nick Chubb's
a good football player, and it is nice that he
can ease his way in without having to be the guy.
But I don't think you should. I don't think when
you turn on your television and watch him, or you
go in personal watch him, you're gonna be saying, oh, yeah,
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that's a guy who's lost three steps. I think it's
gonna be quite the opposite. And I think Nick Chubb
will go in and prepare like he's the starting running
back even though he's not. We know that. But I
think Texans fans can be rest assured that you're not
just getting a guy. They're like, man, we got an
old and beat up running back room. That's not the
case here. Now. You hope both guys can stay healthy,
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but this is a physical running back group with both
with great pride, the two guys up front who can
carry the load. I think you're going to see more
from Nick Chubb than you expect.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Well, and you know, I saw and I don't remember
who said this yesterday on Twitter, so sorry if I
can't give proper credit, but their point was think of
the cam Akers move last year and what you were
able to do with cam Akers. You were able to
trade him for draft capital in the middle of the season.
So it's the same deal here in Chubb. I mean
you mentioned it. He's not even thirty yet. He's going
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to turn thirty in late December this year, so I
mean he's still somebody that could have a lot of football.
And I mean, Sean, this might be extreme, but I'll
throw it out there. I mean, what were people saying
last year about Derrick Henry when he got to the
Baltimore Ravens, wondering if he still had it in him?
I mean, you know, I all right, well, the Titans
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are moving on from him. Does that necessarily signal that
his best football is behind him.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Couple down because I mean average years for him weren't
very good. No quarterback protection, meaning it was the running
back or bust, because they weren't very good at that position.
They were starting a rookie and they had another young
player in They were just won't very good. And when
you're reliant on Derrick Henry, you knew that, and he was.
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You know, all those carries that up you think, well,
there's too much, you know, tread taking off the tire. Well,
they went to a team that's got a quarterback that's
a dual threat, you got offensive line, they draft, Well,
it's a great organization. Also he had to do is
do is say you saw hell as good at Nick
as good as Derrick Henry as we've seen, who for
half the season was an MVP candidate. And if it's
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not for him, I mean Lamar had another great year,
but he added to it. So that's exactly that's a
that's a that's a close comparison because and like you said,
he's not even thirty yet. He'll be thirty when the
season is just about done, So there's still football on
those legs and probably a little more traction than Henry
we would have thought going in because Henry's taking more
hits in his career. And then did a bigger workload
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because even in Cleveland he was able to share some time,
was Nick Chubb. So yeah, and Henry and look look
what it did. You got him with Lamar Jackson, a
great organization, boom revitalized in a phenomenal season. Well, sa
Kwon Barkley even though younger version goes to the Eagles
phenomenal season, even though he's young and wasn't hurt. Just
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change the scenery and hubbu change the scenery. But a
healthygy and all that hard work in the offseason. I
think you're going to see him. It may not be
the same season because he won't be the feature back
like a Henry or a Sakwon Barkley, but he's an
ankle turn away from being the feature back. That's what
he is. And then one of those guys have in
common Hurts quarterback, Lamar Jackson quarterback, Stroud quarterback, meaning all
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three really good. We always talking about the back making
the quarterback better. Well, great quarterbacks make backs better. Why
just because the bandwidth of a football field and especially
with that quarterback. In the case of Hurtz and Lamar
Jackson are dual threat quarterbacks and can pull down and
run for one hundred and twenty five yards in a
game and underrated feet is C. J. Stroud. This is
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nothing but a good ad. There is no risk. The
guy's a good guy. There's no locker room trouble, there's
no headache. He goes to work, he does his gig.
He wouldn't have signed if he didn't understand what his
role was coming in, but won't he feels like one
of those guys that won't accept I mean, he'll accept it,
but won't be content just coming off the bench and
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being you know, spelling Joe Mixon. They can push each other,
both physical players, which add to a culture shift offensively
for this team, and everybody else will buy in. I
just I don't know what's not to like about it? Well,
what is not to like about having a guy with
great attitude, great work ethic people like him in a
locker room, who's a beast who just had to rehab,
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to rehab his lower half and get himself ready to go,
and he'll be good to go as long as he's healthy.
What you say that about everybody in the league. What's
not to like. It's not a fifteen million dollar contract.
Guys making two and a half million bucks when we say, well, Sean,
that's a lot of money. Not in football terms, it's
not in sports terms. That's just a guy these days,
that's what the money says. My gut tells me he's
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going to get closer to the five million on the
earnings if if he's if something were to happen, I
won't mix it healthy. You know. I think he's a monster,
and they got to use them even better. But this
two head added. Find me two more physical backs on
one team in the league. Find it and when if
you can, let me know and I'll back off. I'm
talking about two guys. They can beat you on the edge,
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they will pass protect and it will thump you with
the football on their hand. And and don't run away
from hits, they run to them. So I don't know
what's not to like. This will be a sneaky offseason
signing that people will say, damn, there's other teams that
needed him more than the Texans, Let's put it that way,
and they let it. They let the Texans grow him,
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which is a good bit, which is a big get
for the Texans in my opinion.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Yeah, as the Texans will start madeatory mini camp today.
It's there a final offseason on field work before they
hit training camp later next month.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
C J.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Stroud, I mean something we haven't really had a chance
to talk about much. I mean, you know, Sean, I
mean it did make the declaration with you on here
we weren't going to do OTA's and mini camp deep dives.
But when it comes to the quarterback, well, I think
you can make somewhat of an exception because we haven't
seen him on the field yet.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Oh, there's no question about it. But I can't wait.
But I can't wait, can you? I can't wait? It
is well Wins training camp.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Start, It'll be later next month, so I guess, yeah,
well this I've got.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
If you don't have reason for optimism, not only for
individual players, but for this team, considering they make sure
that they were aggressive, and we talked about Dana Brown
and his eye for talent. I'm just gonna tell you
if you if you haven't been paying attention to Nick
Cassario's moves since he's been here, player moves, then then
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we're not We're not giving him the credit he deserves
because it's the Patriot way. He deserves a lot of credit.
Very easily a year or two ago could have been
the Executive of the Year as well. So keep an
eye on a couple leaks, close moves. These are the
type of guys that a guy like Bill Belichick with
With Corey Dillon, I'm just using going back to Chub
mind you, the example of him they revitalized. He's seen
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this movie for twenty years. But yeah, in the case
quarterback running back it's going to be and the way
this defense is built, we should be looking for this
training camp as much as any since well, since you've
been back in town and since I've been here. This
team's got to be You've got to be excited about
what they're bringing the table. They are that in my opinion,
they're a heavy favorite of the division. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Absolutely, I mean, even with the moves that the Jags
have made, I mean, you know, Tennessee is going to
be starting a rookie quarterback. Hind you, he was the
you know, top pick in the draft. And then I mean,
you know, the Indianapolis Coles still trying to figure out
what their quarterback situation is if Anthony Richardson can stay healthy.
So a lot of questions with the other three teams,
not as many with the Texans, as we'll get back
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into the Nick Chubb conversation as.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
The show goes along.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
But the Astros starting up a series tonight with the
White Sox over at dyke In Park. Lance mccullor's junior
going to get the ball and now a chance to
talk him much with you, Sean, So we'll do that
right here. It is the Sean Salisbury Show getting going
on a Tuesday here in your home of the Astros
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Speaker 6 (13:51):
Sean, the last two times out that we've seen Lance
mccullors junior on the mound, it's been masterful work. Six
innings in both of those outings. He strikes out twelve
against the A's on the twenty eighth of last month,
and then his next time out against the Pirates up
in Pittsburgh, get seven strikeouts, just two hits, does not
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give up a single earned run.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
He has been impressive the last two starts. I'll be
honest with you. I didn't expect him to be that
good that fast. I don't know if people are calling
it good there Dan, I mean, I mean in Houston
and those two because I was out of town. The
second one, for sure, I might have been out of town.
I know we talked about the first one when we
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had the big strikeout day after being booed, and you know,
the threats and all those things. But I didn't expect
him to be this effective and to go that deep
this sin. I didn't. I matter of fact, during this
rehab thing the last year, I just figured lancemac colors
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was going to be destined for the bullpen. And we've
talked about it, and he's worked at it, and I
know in his mind and obviously and he asked us
he's a starting pitcher and it's needed because he didn't
know the first one was there. And then you're like, wow,
he got blown up and then comes back and does
that because you know he's going to get a lot
of swing in this. He's got great stuff. So but
I just didn't know, and I didn't trust it. Not him,
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I just didn't trust when you've seen this happen time
and you're like, oh my gosh, when is is he
going to get hurt again? What's the recovery going to be? Like?
Is can his arm? All those things? And we're still
early in the in the in the you know, in
his game, coming back in the rehab and getting back
and working himself into, you know, to be six innings
and throw quite a few pitches for a guy who
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hadn't pitched in a couple of years. I didn't. I
know he's competitive, but I did not expect him to
be this I don't know if efficient's the right word,
effective at times dominant. I didn't. I don't think I
expected this kind of distance with him just yet figured
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to see a lot of foreignning spot stuff where they
it would almost be like, they know, if we can
get sixty five seventy pitches out of him. Not a doctor,
but he just was kind of going through how you
rebuild what he's had to go through. I didn't expect
him to be this effective, and in his last two
starts he's been pretty damn good and it's a hell
of a bonus. And he looks like a starting pitcher
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and he there's at times he looks like lancemac Culors
did before he was before he went through any injury.
So it's been a I think, a blessing and a
pleasant surprise. Now sustaining it's always a problem for pitchers
in baseball to continue to do it and get through.
There's will be a time he's gonna have another tough
start and he's gonna have to fight his way through
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it and grind out where he's scattering some hits or struggling,
or as one of those games where he's just not
very good and comes back. But he's been pretty resilient
with this, and it's been I didn't believe that he'd
be as effective this early. I just didn't, and so
it's a nice surprise to see.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Yeah, I mean, for the most part, people have been
impressed with what he's done. Now, I mean, social media
will be social media. You also have people who will
do the old that consider the source of the a's
who are not very good and they lost again last night,
or the pirates who seemingly cannot score runs but still,
I mean, nineteen strikeouts and twelve innings, Sean, I don't
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care who's on the other side.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Those are still professional hitters.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
That's still sending guys back to the dugout with pretty
good regularity.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, and that's they get paid. Okay, they're teams that
they're probably both teams. You give them a couple extra
pitchers and a superstar and a couple of good players.
What are they four players away from that? You know,
some teams are eight players away from being eight players away.
So all of a sudden, the Pirates make a move here,
and make a move there, and make a move here,
and they're a playoff contender. It doesn't take much to
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get somebody to turn around. A little bit of luck
and a lot of health, which you got to be
lucky as well, and a couple of players. I don't
care who it's against. I wouldn't care if it was
against Triple A Baseball. It's a lot of strikeouts two days.
Consider this source, all the all the armwork and injuries
that he's been through and the things that he's had
to endure. I do not make an excuse for him.
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I mean, but he that's a lot of that's a
lot of swing and miss and a lot of whiff
and a lot of strikeouts. Regardless of your plan and
you could be I don't care if you go the
Colorado Rockies in there and make it a third one.
It's still he's still got to get throw enough strikes
to get professional guys out. And of course it's not
the Dodgers lineup, but it'd probably be a little different.
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But that'd be different for any picture from Schemes to
Fromber to anybody else. So but social media will do that. Okay,
look at a guy who's done this and you think
man all two years out a big deal. Look who
he did it against. Now, if he did it against
the Dodgers, they'd make the excuse that Mookie Betts had
a day off. That's how social media, some of social media,
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the people that use it for that very reason to
have this type of conversation over can't find anything good.
And there's still things that he's got to work on,
and there's things to like. Listen, man, when the comeback stories,
I'm always impressed with him, whether it's because of something
that happened to them emotionally, physically, mentally they've been through something.
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Comeback stories and how people handle them to me, or
the essence of what pro sports in life is. I
know it sounds cheesy, but it is and so easy
to root for. I know some people have a disdain
for him, think it took too long. I know all that,
But when you're just talking about when he toes the rubber,
he's been pretty damn good for a guy who hadn't
seen a You know, I haven't seen a live game
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until this year, and it's been a minute. So don't
let social media bog down how he's been because it
wouldn't matter who he did it against. There'll be some
ex from somebody. Fact that he's out there pitching and
getting you into six innings and as what you said,
nineteen strikeouts and two of those starts, I'd say that
that means he's commanding a little better than I think
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that I would have expected.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Well, and it's also your competitive when he pitches. I mean,
at least the last couple of times out and even
before that when he wasn't able to get into the
fifth inning or even past. It's in most of those starts.
You still won a couple of those games. So you've
lost Renel Blanco for the season. You're not gonna have
Hayden Wasnski the rest of the way. You're still waiting
on Spencer Arraghetti. Not to mention the other guys that
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you may or may not see this season. And I
bring up Blanco first because he pretty much was giving
you these type of outings whenever he was out there
five six innings. Maybe he'll give up a runner two,
a home run here or there, but for the most part,
you look back to the lineup and you say, hey,
you guys are in position where you can still win
this ball game.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
There's no doubt. Isn't that kind of the goal to start?
You know, would you'd like to have a dominant performance
every time, But isn't that kind of the goal? Give yourself,
ease up the bullpen, get a quality start, and give
your team a chance to win. Isn't that? I mean,
aren't we looking for that? Not everybody's fall schemes or
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goes out there and has a hundred round dominance where
you know that you're not only in every game, you
got a chance to win every game, and somebody who
scores your three runs. But the fact that after this,
there's no way that there is no way, even if
you know how competitive a guy like what Colors is,
even his own teammates would have expected maybe some of it,
but I got to believe they're pleasantly surprised too to
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see it come out, to know that it's not just
that these spitua, but the recovery time. I was always
concerned about in between starts, with all this and laboring
or going through this, how does he feel the next
start after striking out twelve? So yeah, man, I just
when you're in it, if you leave and have worked
your innings and qualify for a win, and you've given
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your team a chance, or you haven't, you know, walked
nine runners and put your team down. You lead off
innings and you're down, they're just you're just you're just
battling to get through because they don't want to waste
a bullpen and you're down eight to one and the
sixth inning, he's given his team a chance. And to
me and now for him, obviously the mental side of
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the approach of a player, that's not his approach. His approaches.
He wants to go out and dominate every day and
that's probably what makes him pretty good because he's not
just trying to get by. He wants to be a
quality frontline starter. Again, I can imagine, and what a
comeback story. It'll make if he can. So my colors
have still got some work to do. But if you
haven't been impressed with what you've seen into in these,
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you know, last two starts, then maybe maybe I'm watching
different baseball. Dominant and impressive don't have to be the
same thing. You can have success with.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Both yeah and the Astros hoping they can continue said
success with mccullors on the Mountain Night against Shane Smith
for the White Sox to start up the series. So
we'll continue to talk about this, and also mentioned the
Nick Chubb signing in the first segment that's on the
table as well against some one three two one two
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seven nine zero Dana Brown.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Are we giving them enough credits? We'll talk about it
right here.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
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season as a talent evaluator and what the Astros have
been able to add to this team and use to
help this team get into the position that they're in
right now, which is a first place division leading team
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seven games above five hundred and also a team that
has used a lot of really sean I would say,
usual guys to be able to help you get to
that point of this season. Let's take Steven Okert for example.
This year tied for third on the team in appearances
with Josh Hater, and this season so far he's one
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and two with a two point four to three e er.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
He has once save.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
He also has struck out thirty seven this year, which
is currently tied for us for second on the team
with Brian A.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Bray.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
You and what he has been able to do this
year for you to be able to put yourself in
position second amongst relievers is what I meant there. But
still somebody that you brought in, gave a chance as
somebody that could maybe be a middle of the rotation guy.
And just like we've seen an elevation of Sean Duban Sean,
we could probably even see in some of those seventh
(26:50):
eighth inning situations that if you have a couple of
guys down, Steven Okert is somebody that you can count
on to be able to get some meaningful outs.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
With his versatility and his forms. This year has been
spot on and definitely needed. And yes, I don't think
anybody would waiver one second if you had to have
him for a couple of weeks or what have you.
In that role. He's been outstanding. And every year on
good teams there's a bullpen guy or a starting pitcher.
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Look around that man, this guy's nine to three. Oh man,
this guy's you know, his his era is below is
in the low twos, or he's strike out, the walk
ratio or his earn run, whatever it is. There's there's
always a guy on good teams you go in that
you really didn't count on, meaning you may have count
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on an organization, but not a lot of people know
a lot about that. You're like, oh man, where'd this guy?
And next thing, you know, he said in an All
Star Game You're like, oh, yeah, he's a reliever for
you know, for Boston or Baltimore, and we got one here.
He's been phenomenal, and good teams find those guys and
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his role. He has done every single thing that's been
asked to him. Short of a couple moments. It's been
a really, really good start here in the first seventy
games or so for him and much needed. And he
has made that bullpen a lot deeper and a lot wider.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
And Brian King right now is tied for the sensational man. Yeah,
tied for the most appearances on the team for the
Astros this year, as he is three and one three
point e er. Struck out twenty nine in his twenty
seven innings, pitched a whip of just flat out one.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I loved his approach during before they went off to
train and camp, get a chance to sit and talk
to him. I thought it was awesome, easy, got root, force,
had success obviously, we've seen it here and just continues
on the grind and he will lead innings for you.
And he's one of those guys you keep looking at
me and saying, man, it seems like every single day
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he's doing work the bullpen. When all is said and done,
this year, the hitting, honestly, you can hit two thirty
as a team and still make headway in the postseason.
You can. We've seen it. Said. I think when this
team won a World Series, I think they were hitting
in the low two hundreds or load of mid two hundreds.
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They were, and well, I think you see it as
an overall team. You as long as your bullpen and
you're starting pitching is healthy and successful, you can get
by the other way around. You can't. You can mash.
But over the course of one hundred and sixty two games,
there's going to be too many big games, too too
many high scoring games. You can't expect just your guys
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to score seven, eight nine runs the night. Pitching can
be too good, too specialized. So the opposite is true
that if you have bullpen and starting pitching and you're
averaging three or four runs, again, you can still win
a lot of games. And that's exactly who the Astros
are now. You expect more from their bats. But the opposite.
You can mash and hit and hit and hit. If
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you can not pitch you're pitching, you will eventually go
away and your team will fizzle. Oh, they'll put some
good numbers up and it'll be impressive, but the ultimate
but yeah, but how'd you guys pitch the ops?
Speaker 8 (30:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Man, you're leading, here's Jake Myers and you're rolling the guy.
And in no disrespect to input, that's not what you
expect him to do. But you can go and hit,
kind of like they're hitting. Your star's out. The power
hasn't been there as much as you'd like. You're waiting
for al Tuovid going keep pitching. You're in first place, bullpen,
Ocher King starting pitching fromber Hunter Brown. You've seen what
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mccullors has done. Okay, how's the Jordance season so far?
Injury riddled? Unfortunately? And he hasn't He wasn't. The power
wasn't there. Up and down for Altuve, up and down
for Jiner, No Kyle Tucker, no Alex Bregman, Prade, It's
been pretty good. Jake Myers has had a hell of
a start. Painting is playing great baseball. Christian Walker's in
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the round two ten. Now look at the pitching staff
and tell me why they're in first place. And you
can sustain that. I mean meaning if you can pitching,
stay healthy, the guys like King and Okre who eat
up innings and do their thing, and you get good
starting pitching, you can still win not only a lot
of baseball games, you can roll through playoff wins if
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you can pitch. Now, we love the hitting. You'd like
to get a little more leeway. It's a lot of
stress to put on pitching staffs, but the Kings and
the Ochres of the world are a big reason why
you get the comfort zone. If this team continues to
do this, they will win the division even if they
hit like this the rest of the year. If they
pitch like this and hit like this, they will still
win the division. If they hit great and pitch average
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and have injuries and their pitching is like blah, it
doesn't matter how well they hit. They may get closer
in a walk up, they won't last because you'll run
in to scooble, You'll run into guys like that. It
will shut you down. You'll be finished. So this you
can sustain, I mean, if you can sustain and it
gives you a better chance to win. It's just like anything. Eventually,
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it may get you where you don't have offense and
the other team's got great pitching as well, and they
beat you three to two. But in the NFL, offense offense,
offense can't play defense and can't get stops. You not
win a Super Bowl. You're just not. If you can
do both offense and defense like teams can Dodgers, then
you feel pretty good about your game. So this pitching.
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Do not discount that some of the most valuable players
on this team this year, two guys you just mentioned
in the bullpen the way they pitched well.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
And you know we've not even mentioned Ben at Susie yet,
who of course picks up the save on Saturday. Has
been somebody else that you can count on only seventeen
appearances this year, but still somebody that you did not
have all of last year, and we're able to pick
up after the roster deadline to be part of the
twenty twenty three postseason. But somebody that at the Astros
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get there, I would probably expect will be part of it.
And you mentioned it about postseason six, says Seany Salt
in twenty two. I mean, when you pitch as well
as the Astros, did you get timely enough hitting, then
you're a World Series Champion's that's what the postseason is.
It's not about how well you can hit, because you're
not scoring five, six seven runs in a game and
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winning them most nights.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Well, you're getting you're getting your their best pitchers all
the time. Well that's what that's what the playoffs are.
The rotate you're getting their best stuff. So yeah, you're
not getting into the sixth, seventh, eighth pitcher because somebody's
tired or missed the start, and you got a six
man rotation. That's not the postseason. So you're damn right.
And like I said, you can hit two thirty five
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as a team and still be a champion. You can
hit two thing. You can as long as you get now.
A lot of teams don't have the fortune that this
franchise does of getting such great pitching starting pitching. Even
with all the injuries, somebody else stepping in and doing
their job, and the bullpen's been fantastic. That's why you
hear pitching, pitching, pitching even when you go through slumps.
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Defense in NFL keeps you in games and travels. Pitching
always travels. Hitting can travel, but they'll knock your ass
out of a first class seat. If you get a pitcher,
you can knock it down so it travels at times,
but sustain travel for long trips. You give me pitching
and bulp is starting pitching, bullpen pitching over hitting. We
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just like the optics of hitting because it gives some leeway,
but it also looks sexier. Three to one games aren't
that much fun to watch unless you let into the
pitching and defense thing. We like it, and of course
you want your bats to be alive and well. But
one good outing for a pitcher cools bats in a hurry.
One I mean cools bats in a hurry. So the
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best way to keep the pitching going. You can still
win a championship even when you're not your best hitters
are not performing to their level or aren't on the
field because they're hurt. The Assos are the perfect example
of that, and lost all those bodies in the offseason.
They're still a matter of fact, they're in first place
at this point. Last year with all those bodies, they
weren't sniffing well, it's maybe around this point, but twelve
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and twenty four to start, so forty games in they were.
We were rolling our eyes singing, okay, whins football season start?
Not now. This is a different Astros team.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Definitely much more fun to watch too, as they've been
able to handle their business and the past week. How
many favors has it done for the Astros. We'll talk
about it right here. It is Sean Salisbury Show on
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This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
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Get back at it.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
As I mentioned, the Astros wake up this morning with
a three game lead on the Mariners. It was two
and a half heading into yesterday, but thanks to Josh
Naylor in a walk off grand Slam in the eleventh
out there in the Desert, Diamondbacks able to beat them
eight to four. But it has not been a good
week and a half for the Mariners. In their last
ten games, they are three and seven. They got swept
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by the Orioles when the Astros took two out of
three from the Pirates, then they lost two out of
three to the Angels over the weekend after the Astros
took two out of three from the Angels, and then
last night. So they are the primary the competition that
the Astros have in the West right now, and the
Astros have been able to handle business while the Mariners
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have not.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Similar situation. I don't know the record wise, I didn't
haven't looked last year, but if you recall when they
were twelve and twenty four, and then as they started
to get on a little bit of a run and
push towards the mid season, that the Mariners helped him
as well. There was a time and I don't remember
when the months came down. If you remember the Mariners,
when the Astros were going through their good the Mariners
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were not playing great baseball either, which allowed the Astros
to go from twelve to twenty four to work in
their way, calm their way back in and then the
swing from where they were to where they ended up
was alarming. You have to get some help during that.
You can play well if the other team's playing well
as you, and it wasn't it Also last year at
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one point when we had the Dodgers, Dodgers were playing
great baseball and we're like, whoa, and the Padres didn't
go away, right, The pot were hanging around when it
was Dodgers, Dodge and Padres like, we keep talking about
how well this team's playing. Well, it goes the ops
as well. While the Astros were starting to play really
good baseball and needed to pick up and have themselves
a month or so plus the game ground the rest
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of the division helped, and the Mariners at the top it, Yes,
they are the main competitor there. Obviously when they're healthy
and right, they're loaded on the pitching staff. But I
just even though cal Rawley's having a hell of a
big year with the bat and a long ball, and
we know some of the skills set they're the truth
of the matter is they have to get good. They
don't have great hitting. And I know a lot of
teams can say that when you go up and down
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their lineup. I don't know if you fear it, does
that make sense when they're full of I don't know
if you fear it. There's good players, but they know
they have to pitch well. But I think they know
they have to even do more than that. Where the
Astros and there's an experience that goes with no one
how to win. So the Mariners talented, They've got good players,
but pitching is going to. The one who can sustain
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the pitching wins the division. Because we know what the
Rangers' bats look like when all of those guys are
healthy and raking, and along with good pitching led them
to a World Series championship and a hell of a manager.
So Seattle's got that in them, the ability to scratch
stuff out, and they've got some long ball in them.
But I just I don't think I go in with
the major fear their lineup, and you can probably say
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that about a lot of lineups, but they are leaving
the door open for the Astros to continue to extend this.
But it has happened at times last year as well,
where when the Astros were able to hang around, but
when they started winning, they got some help from the
rest of the division so they could close the gap
and eventually, you know, take care of their business and
get to the division and make the playoffs. So you
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have to have help during the season from other people
as well.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
It was June into July last year, we go, where
are the Astros At July eleventh last season had the
best record in baseball since the first of June. They
were twenty four and eleven during that stretch, and then
twenty eighteen when they were in the throes of still
having a lot of their homegrown guys.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
In the organization.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
Remember, at one point they had won eleven straight road
games that tied a franchise record. They were also eighteen
and three in a twenty one game stretch that dated
back to June sixth of that season. So June has
been kind of the Astro.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, and I'll bet you. I'll bet you the Mariners
record And maybe I'm wrong, but I'll bet you the
Mariner's record during that stretch. Ginger July was not stellar.
I don't have it in front of me, but I
would bet that the for to make ground up you
had to have help. I mean, it's okay for the
other teams of the division to go through their struggles
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so you can make ground. And I would imagine the
timing was pretty perfect for the Astros. On the switch.
You got better, they got worse.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
Well, it's usually past to take advantage of said timing.
That's what the Astros have been able to do.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
What about the.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Time that is in front of them, Well, that could
be equally as kind to the Astros, and we'll talk
about that as we start our number two of the
Seawn Salisbury Show.
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This is the Seawan Salsbury Show. First with three against
the Chicago White Sox. It's gonna be Lance mccullors junior
tonight against Shane Smith. Diamondback's able to walk off the
Mariners in eleven innings last night, eight to four. So
the Astros wake up this morning at three games in
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front of Seattle for first in the West. And the
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I found this last night on Twitter and the guy
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goes by at TJ stats. His name is Thomas Nastiko
and he is on Patreon and substack. He's a stats
guy and his data compiled from Major League Baseball and
schedules played this season. Are you aware that the Astros
have played so far to this point, at least by
record the hardest record in all of baseball?
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Had shock? Yeah? Yeah, and that's and they play their
best baseball, it seems when they're playing, haven't they always
though last year the year was it? Last year in
the year before, when the year before when they tied,
had the tiebreak at the end of the season, had
to go five or six down the stretch to win,
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didn't They put themselves in a bind by getting beat
by the A's Kansas City teams that were poor. They've
now maybe the stats don't bear this out, but I
test tells me that they've always played better against good teams.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe the stats don't match it. And
it doesn't shock me that they've played the toughest record,
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the toughest schedule in baseball. That doesn't surprise me. I mean,
there's some of their early teams, in early starts they
have and you know the changes. Sometimes you go into
the season, say, this team is supposed to be really good.
Look at the Baltimore Orioals. Did you have this on
your Bengal card? One of the the awful manager fired.
So you play teams like that and you think, well,
you know they're supposed to be good, so that didn't count.
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Things do change, But when you're playing the toughest schedule,
it seems to me the Astros since I've been here,
I feel like they've elevated against good teams. It was
the games they were supposed to win, the birdie holes
that a couple of years that struggled, and playing at
home that same season trying to close games out home
they weren't very good. They played better at home this year.
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So yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all. And I
think that for us and for my op, they always
seem to elevate their game against dud teams as opposed
to the opposite. I don't know over the last five
or seven years that bears it out, but with their record,
it would seem to me. With who they've beaten all
these ALCS runs. It would I think that it would
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bear it out in most seasons that the Astros play
really well against good teams. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:21):
The sixty five games they've played this year, fifty of
them have been against teams that are above five hundred.
They're twenty seven and twenty three in those games. The
fifteen that are against teams under five hundred, they are
nine and six.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yeah, so I mean they're doing that. Those are those
verdic goals we talked about. But I also am going
back just real quick. I think last year June and July,
the Mariners record was like twenty one and twenty four
of those two months combined, so they were you know,
three or three games under five hundred, and the Astros
were able to make a move. As I digress, but yeah,
it doesn't. Some teams elevate the Astros. It almost feels
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like they they're locked in. Whether it's playing a good
golf course and you are playing with good players on
a golf course, you play better because you want to
make sure that you don't slow them down. The Astros
seem to elevate when they're playing against good pitching clutch hits,
timely pitching for them. And you can say, well, listen,
everybody like that, and that answer is no, everybody's not
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like that. Individuals aren't like that. Some are and some
teams are. But my suggestion is that they played over
five hundred teams one hundred and sixty two games, that
they'd win the division because I think that there's a
there's something about them that and whether it's part of
that we over use it again culture word that we
talk about, or maybe we under use it, maybe maybe
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we should talk about it more, but this team seems
to they're they're they're they're more locked in when when
things when when they're pressed and they're struggling and they
need wins, or when they're playing against teams that they're
really good. Especially in the regular season, this team has
been pretty locked in against good competition.
Speaker 6 (46:58):
Well, and you mentioned those party holes because we've also
talked about and Spark you mentioned it yesterday when he
was on with us, that it is going to be
the start of thirteen straight games in thirteen days for
the Astros, and as of right now, ten of those
opportunities are going to be against teams that are under
five hundred.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
These are the ones. This is how you This is
when you create the distance. Right. You expect playing good
teams you're gonna win some series and you're not. But
when you play teams like the White Sox or you
mentioned the Pirates, teams you're supposed to beat you, you
those are Birdie and eagle holes. Got to do it
because in the end this division will be close, and
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you'd hate to if you look back and say, you
know what, we got beat by the Dodgers on a
no tiny walk off home run. If you're in the
National whoever you are, not just the ass anybody you
can live with it, I mean nobody. You'd like to
obviously make somebody else beat You don't want the other
team's best player, you know, to beat you. When you're
playing Boston, you prefer its not Bregman or Devers. If
you're playing the Astro either you don't want out two
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they or you're on to be the ones. Make Jake
Myers beat you. This year he's been able to do it.
It's the same thing for them. When you're playing against
teams you're supposed to beat, you can't let them hang
around in the seven till the seventh inning. I know
they're pros, I know they get just can't let them
hang around because then it's the bloop single that costs you.
Those are the games where you got to win ninety three,
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ninety two. Now, you'll take a win anyway you can
get it. But I say it every year and I
continue to that you don't win golf tournaments making pars.
You just don't. When there's a par a hard par long,
par three over water that you got to surrounded by bunkers,
you hit in the middle of the green and putt
and get out. And at times a bogie ain't a
bad thing. But when you play bad teams regularly, which
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is which aren't the good teams. So you got to
make pars against good teams, you better you'd be a
better birdie an eagle some of these holes, or you can't.
You can't win them. You can hang around. You ain't
win the tournaments that way, you'll be in a top
hundred hot top one, twenty five on the money list.
You ain't want to winning a tournament. So if you
can't birdie the par fives, you're just not part of
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the par five. You're you will not win. So I
will continue to stress that that they've they've got the
folks kicking. They got to treat like they're playing the
Dodgers and they play teams are supposed to beat them.
If they continue to do that, then that the ass
is going to be fine. I know they're locked in
when they're playing good teams when it comes to there,
the way they approach it, it's these type of games
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where you can get laxed and say, oh, come on, man,
we're supposed to win these, Well, then then go do it.
And I think that's that's been a problem for any
team that struggles. When you're not birty in par fives,
you realize we can't let it. It almost cost them
a playoff Berth two years ago and down. It almost
costs them not winning at home and not beating teams
that they're supposed to smoke. It almost costs them two
(49:49):
more days of that they wouldn't have made the playoffs.
So that that's a focus we can all askay, oh yeah,
tho's not that big a deal. They're that big a
deal because at the end of the season, there's no
way anybody in this divisions winning by ten games unless
there's a rash of injuries. It's just not going to
happen well.
Speaker 6 (50:05):
And they've yet to see the Angels, who are now
five games back of them. They've been playing good baseball,
but you have to wonder how much longer that lasts for.
But Ron Washington's club is thirty one and thirty four
at the moment, so still below five hundred. We'll see
what changes in about a week and a half when
the Astros do head to Anaheim and take on the Angels.
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But you've got the Athletics who continue to slide their
twenty six and forty two during that stretch, the White Sox,
who aren't playing terrible baseball, Sean, but there's still twenty
two games below five hundred, so there is plenty of
ground to be able to make up. It is worth noting, though,
as the graft that TJ Stats had put together, the
Mariners have played thirty three games. They are third most
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in that category against teams that are below five hundred
this year.
Speaker 5 (50:53):
The Rangers. I'm not completely righting them off yet, Sean.
Speaker 6 (50:56):
They've played twenty six games this year against teams that
are below five hundred, and they have been reeling so
far because they can't hit.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yeah, and I'm just telling you that at some point
they will. We've said it about this team too, Now,
what's the struggle of hitting with the stars. It's a
Bruce Bochie managed team that, aside from really good pitching
that they got two years ago when they won the
World Series, they raked. Now they were the outlier. I
mean they're just scoring twelve and fourteen runs and then
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nine runs and they then we saw them in the
postseason hit. But they also got timely, really really good
pitching from was A Montgomery. I mean, they've got some
great pitching in that way you have to and it's
a Bochie managed team. So if anybody thinks after last year,
I would if people were wise, they would count on
(51:48):
the fact that somehow, some way Bochi's team won't go away.
I just don't think they will either. I wouldn't count
them out because at some point they will hit, and
they've got quality starters at the So for me, I
thought they'd be in the division hunt at the beginning
of the year. And I'm not even close to counting
him out because we know who he is and his
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track record, and if we're giving people track record credit,
he deserves as much as anybody. I know the hat
fields in McCoy's feeling here from Houston to Dallas. I
get that. But the truth is I wouldn't blink when
I'm talking about the Rangers' gonna They're gonna be around,
and they've got some quality pitching as well.
Speaker 6 (52:30):
Yeah, definitely have to see if they are able to
pull through at some point this season. But as it
stands at the moment, the Rangers five and a half
games back of the Astros in the West. All Right,
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Astro's back Home a homestand first with three against the
White Sox the night they are three games up on
the Mariners in the West. That's because the Diamondbacks walk
off Seattle in extras eight to four and the Nick
Chubb the Old Texans is official. Two point five million
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over one year could be worth as much as five
They start mandatory mini camp today. Dating Sean. Now, me
and you, we are in kept relationships. But Tripley, he
is our foot soldier. He is out there on the
front lines and you are at war. Triple Ye, I
don't want you to forget that that is what that
world is very much so out Kick was able to
(55:40):
get wind of a Reddit thread that is out there
about toxic dating habits that have gone viral and a
few of them that were able to.
Speaker 5 (55:50):
Be listed here.
Speaker 6 (55:52):
Like one, testing people instead of being honest, I mean,
there is a cording process that does happen in dating, Sean,
We've all had to go through it. Sometimes it's great,
sometimes it's really awesome, and then sometimes it sucks because
then you're in a full on relationship and you're still
learning about each other, so those growing pains are still there.
But testing people instead of being honest, feel like if
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you're starting without honesty, usually the relationship isn't going to
go far.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
I would imagine, Yeah, dating can suck. I'm sure it
can be a great thing. I think we've all been
through both right where it's like, man, it's a lot
of work. I get it on both sides for men
and for women. But yeah, I think that a lot
of people do test and like low instead of like, okay,
here's what you know, setting parameters or kind of converse out.
(56:43):
I don't even think it's it's like here's what I do.
Here's what you do. It's kind of, you know, sifting
your way through it because you're if you're looking for perfect,
I got one suggestion, I keep it moving because that
ain't out there for anybody. It's the one of the
you know, those of us who think that perfect is
out there and I'm kidding because I don't is You're
(57:06):
you're probably going to be disappointed, but in all the fun,
But you're right. I think that relationships a lot of
times are let me test them first as opposed to communicate.
Is that basically what you're saying with this kind of
thing that communicate and honesty straight up front, that you
test them and see if they pass the test. That's
one percent of what it is.
Speaker 6 (57:23):
Yes, yes, where it's all you know, Oh, you weren't
one hundred percent honest with me?
Speaker 5 (57:27):
Well, I mean I mean trying to be like it's yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
Should everything in your past come to should you be
should you have to tell your relationship Let's say you're
married or dating somebody in the past. Do you owe
it to the future spouse and or girlfriend to tell
everything that's passed for you in your dating life, for
things that have happened good or bad. Do you owe
it to that person or is it none of their
(57:52):
business what's happened prior to you.
Speaker 6 (57:55):
I think if it's asked, then sure, divulge it. But
I mean if not, no, it's in your past. I mean,
you're a reason. They're single for a reason. So just
take it for what it's worth.
Speaker 1 (58:04):
Are you okay? So let's say you're single and you're dating.
You start dating this gal and she wants to know
about your passion. It was a tough relationship and maybe
you you know, you'd matured and you got you got
better at it. Please say, you know what, it's something
I don't really want to discuss. It's the past. It
was a relationship that or a couple of relationships that
I had to learn the hard way or the easy whatever.
(58:26):
We both had to learn the hard way. And it's
not worth discussing because I won't let it happen again.
Should that be sufficient enough for your the one you're
dating or future possible significant other or spouse to say,
you know what? That's fair? I don't need to know everything.
Speaker 6 (58:41):
Well, I mean, I think there's a little bit of
both there. I mean, I think that if the conversation
does come up, don't avoid it. But it is one
of the toxic dating habits that is on here talking
excessively about exes being hung up on x's or jumping
from person to person instead of committing. I think a
huge part of that is people who are not ready
to date, because I mean you'll see that all the time.
(59:02):
What's the number one piece of advice a divorce, a breakup,
whatever it is, Hey, take your time, Like that's the
best friendly advice that you can get. And at the time,
you want that time to be able to speed up
because you're hurting, you're I mean, it is grief, it
is a loss, so that's part of it. But I
mean it does get to that where it's you know,
oh my ex used to do this, oh you know,
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like all of these different things.
Speaker 5 (59:24):
It gets nauseating.
Speaker 6 (59:25):
Man, Like you're just like, look, you're not over them,
and I'm not going to be your shoulder to cry
on for that because it's not what I signed up for.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
Yeah, I mean, if you're still conversing with an X
and trying to move on to another relationship that never works,
I mean it's bad because you're right, I mean, on bold,
whether you're male, or females. When you're moving on, you
got to. I mean, I think the one thing for
some in the dating world that Hella, don't look to
me for expertise, but in the dating world would be
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the inability to move on. But yet some force their
way into another relationship because they get a little bit
of a rebound, or some don't like being alone. I've
always been okay being I mean for a lot of
you being alone. I mean, I mean, go to movies
and life. There's something that you just can't. But I
don't know. I think there's a fine line between what
is your business to know and what isn't. Just because
(01:00:17):
I'm moving on with you doesn't mean I need to
know everything about Okay, So somebody comes up says how
many women you had sex with? And you lie to
her and you've had sex with ten, but she and
you told her seven, right, but you left out You
just convenient left out three because maybe when her and
her they were friends back in junior high hopefully not
(01:00:39):
but high school or college, and you just seem to
kind of leave that one out. You don't talk to
that person. We just kind of leave it out because
it's maybe a little too close to home. Not that
you were cheating, it's just that before you met her
this happened and you just don't want to You don't
want to hurt feelings. Is that sufficient or should you
be able to? Do you need to walk down the
line and name everyone and tell the experiences. Are we
there or or is it better left on set? Well?
(01:01:02):
I mean I would say I don't think relationships need
to know everything about everything. Now if it's significant to
your relationship still you know you were a hoe and
you haven't quit being a hoe, Well maybe that's a problem,
right male or female. But if you you know, made
a mistake you would consider a mistake or got in
a relationship, or something happened when you know you were
twenty two and now you're thirty four, and it's just say,
(01:01:25):
you know what, it's not that it's not important in
our future. And then they find out ten years that,
well you left this one out. Do you all of
a sudden leave? Is that an eagle or pride thing?
Do you all of a sudden just up and leave
and break up because you say, well, they lied to
me twelve years ago because they just didn't want to
bring something. Is that a liar. Is that a convenient
leave out?
Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
I mean what I'm saying, I mean, I don't even
think it's a convenient leave out. It's just that was
our business like it was in the past.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
My point, so, when when does everything become the significant
other's business? When they crossed the threshold of marriage or
you're in a committed relationship, yes, yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
The committed relationship.
Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Yeah right, sure, Okay from then on, but do they
need to know you know who you you know who
you were ten toes up and ten toes down with
your freshman year in college. Now right, that's it's her sister. Okay,
I get that, you know, you know, that's families When
you come over for family dinner, I am I gonna
have to worry about you playing foot seas at the table.
(01:02:18):
I get that. But I'm going to say, like I said,
i'd being a relationship expert's got to be taxing, because
I don't even know how you become a relationship expert
when it comes to like because one for for some people,
one thing's great. You know, there's deal breakers for everybody. Right,
for some people, one thing they may like. If you
don't like tattoos, you probably don't do you know some
(01:02:41):
of us you're not gonna want to date, okay, but
if you do so, well, I guess maybe it takes
a person to look through things and say, okay, there's
a weakness, but I can live with that because I
love this person or the you know that person does this?
Got to do it. There are deal breakers that'll be
deal breakers no matter what. If I was in I could,
I wouldn't be able to do and a lot of
(01:03:01):
like hygiene and personal hygiene and stuff. But as far
as relationships, if you're forty and you made a mistake
at twenty three, who am I to judge? If I
judged you on that, you should get out of the
relationship right as long as that trend of bad decisions
or a decision hasn't continued in a relationship. They're tough, man,
because a decision you and your girl may make in
(01:03:21):
a relationship you guys may love to be perfect for you,
but in Tripoli and his future that may be something
they say, no, that doesn't enter our relationship or that's
a deal breaker. Well maybe a deal breaker for them,
it's not for you. So relationships or a trip man,
but anybody out there that raise their hand and says
they love dating. It's got to be on crack.
Speaker 6 (01:03:42):
It is probably it is probably one of the least
fun experiences. But one of the ones that is on
here is one that me and Megan do, and that's
sharing locations. And it's not for a oh I need
to know where you are at all times. It's honestly
for convenience. For example, the other night, I helped her
out at her family pet resort. We were going to
eat afterwards she had to stay behind to finish something
(01:04:04):
up at their business. But then, you know, I was
with her parents and we were grabbing a drink at
the bar. So then I said, here, let me see
where she's at. And I saw she was turning into
the parking lot, and I said, let's get her a drink.
It's been a long day. Like that's me looking out
for her. And I also know that information without having
to text or call hey, how far away are you?
Speaker 8 (01:04:24):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (01:04:24):
Are you here yet? Like any of those things. Okay,
it's convenience is.
Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Okay, let me ask you this, and that sounds all
fine and in and I believe you, But let me
just be the naysayer. For the hell of it please
for the hell of it. Yeah, if she right now
that said, you know, I don't like that feels invasive
to me. I don't like that. Would you be offended thinking, oh,
she's up to something, see, because I do think that's invasive.
(01:04:48):
I feel like somebody put a thing. I would never
do that you realized. I never looked in the door
of my you know, in the dresser drawer of my
kid's room, or looked at their phone their entire life,
or a significant ever gone through significant other's drawer or
wallet when i'm I mean when i'm and not that
you have anything to hide. It's just to me. Unless
(01:05:10):
they say get in my purse and grab the keys
or grab the id or get I won't do I'll
hand them the purse to me. I understand on a
kid getting their license at sixteen, you're worried about them
or somebody's going for that night that they're going. You
want to make sure they get up safe. But I'll
ask you again. If she decided and she says, yeah,
that's a little too invasive. You don't need to know
(01:05:31):
where I'm driving down I ten on a regular base.
I'll text you or I'll tell you what I'm going
to be there and if I'm not, I'll let you
know text. Would you think that maybe even if it's
not you and her, just just play the game, if
you if it was somebody else, would you be offended
that she say? Would you start to think, hmm, I'm
going to watch a little closer. Why would she not
(01:05:52):
want me to know where she's driving down the street
when she's getting here? See? To me, I would never
put a tracker on my phone or no or where
I can watch their GPS and watch okay, they just
turned left her and right like it like a lift
or an uber. I would not do that. That for
me would be that for me would be too That
to me tells me you don't trust me. Where the
hell am I going? I said, you know my routine,
(01:06:14):
I'm going I'll be home at this time.
Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
If I'm two hours late and stopped in a bar,
get it. But for me, that seems too invasive. It
seems like that's a I'm watching every move you make,
so don't screw it up unless there was a cause
for it. If there, if there was probable cause, you've
cheated forty seven times, so I'd be out of the
relationship anyway. Sure, So what if she did that to you?
Is she said, I don't want to do this anymore.
(01:06:36):
I mean, I want, I love you to death, but
you don't need to, you know, track my car every
time I drive down the street. What would you.
Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Say, Sure, no problem, I mean, I'm gonna go home.
Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
I wouldn't. We wouldn't hurt your feelings, and you wouldn't
for one second think that she was up to something.
Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
No.
Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
I mean because I have a good idea of where
she is at all times, even if there you're going
to look at my phone, And I mean, for me,
it's my going out is my cow with a handle
of vodka, some sort of mixer and lemons and watching
either baseball or hanging out with the dogs.
Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
No. But I'm getting what you say about knowing, and
it's convenient right for you, it's convenient. Some others would
take it as oh you sure you get what I've said?
Like for sure, And there's plenty of them that don't
approach it like you. You know why they got They
want to know where their person is. Project way to
keep track of you, Oh, there's no, And there's a
way to keep track of them without you saying I
don't trust you. That's just kind of I care about you.
I love you. In your case, I believe it, But
(01:07:28):
I know there's some and you and I both know
they got that tracker on there. They want to know
whether they turn into the wrong neighborhood and what if
you make a wrong turn. It's like who's that address? Yeah?
Where they go? Why that grocery store? We usually go to?
Hem so to me because you know what its people
are like, the say you make it wrong. I made
the wrong turn. I wasn't paying attention. You sure who
(01:07:49):
lives who lives at heb? Nobody except a really good
grocery store. Other than that, I'm not really sure. So yeah,
I just think depending on the couple, it can be
awfully advasive if you let it, because then it becomes consuming.
Over why did they turn there? Well, it's like it's
like social media. Oh man, I got to see it
becomes and I would imagine it's the same thing. Oh
(01:08:12):
my gosh, I thought she said she was going to
be home. Well I had to run an er Well
you didn't tell me. Well that Errand's over at thirty
seven forty six West Jones Street. Didn't that your ex
boyfriend us to you know what I'm saying. You're starting
to trip out, right, So yeah, I just wonder how
people do it.
Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
There you go, you know, you know what. You're right.
You caught me. I'm cheating on you with brisket. Kso
that's that's what I'm doing, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Right, I was over at jbar and Barbecue getting some
good brisket. You're just screwed because you didn't make it.
That's it. I ate all your food too. There you go, yeah,
that's right.
Speaker 6 (01:08:41):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't think of you when you know,
thinking should I bring home some brisket?
Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
And the way I look at it like that, Dad,
what everyone? You know what when you got to question everything?
You know? Not you guys, but it would relationships with
this and that and well we just we care about it.
We want to know everybody's moved. No, you don't. You
lie in sack. You don't trust each other. And if
I got to do not I'm not talking about what
you're talking. I've told me that where everything gets questioned,
I wouldn't be in a relationship ever. I wouldn't. I
(01:09:08):
would not if I got a question when I get
up and walk to the restroom because somebody you missed
the phone call? Yeah I was. I was peeing and showering.
Do I need a phone in there too? That that
would not be that I couldn't do it to me.
It's just, man, you break the trust, you're done. That's
why always told my kids, if I got to look
at your drawer, at your phone, or if I got
(01:09:29):
to if I got to take you off, and then
then there's a reason and you won't have it. It's
pretty simple, and then I'll give you the trust until
you break the trust. And I was pretty fortunate my
three kids. I never had to. I'm sure they did
a little thing, you know, it's like all teenagers do.
But I never had to, and so I never wanted
that to be a problem. And I don't when you
have to start feeling that way to me or relationship
(01:09:49):
has gone south already.
Speaker 6 (01:09:51):
Yeah, it's easily when. As you said, when when the
trust is gone, the bow is broken. When the bow
is broken, well then the cradle will fall and the
ship will go down. As we learn some lessons trying
to help you out out there, Triple e again, keep
that armor up, buddy, you're gonna need it out there.
As we continue here on the Sean Salisbury Show, Dennis
(01:10:12):
c you want to get in on the conversation.
Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
Let you do that.
Speaker 6 (01:10:14):
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It's like any relationship in life, romantic or just a friendship,
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it can suck.
Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
No, it's a fact that And the truth is when
they act like one hundred percent everything's perfect in my life,
subtract about thirty percent of that. And that's about where
most people live. You know, every day, some days are good,
some days are some days, he argues, I'm not even
just talking about relationships sometime about life. But social media
can paint a picture one to doom and gloom or
(01:11:00):
oh my gosh, I got the best life in the world.
You can do nothing. I'm rich, I'm happy, I'm healthy.
At my sex life, We're banging seventeen times a day
everybody loves I mean, one of those where it's not
it's not real and we know that and I am.
I'm with them too. My favorite is you'll see the
person post, oh my gosh, I've met my dream my
dream man, and then two weeks later it's complicated. A
(01:11:24):
week later, a week later they're broke up. And a
week after that, there she should no, she's got a new,
she got a new. I met the love of my life. Oh,
I've seen where it's like, oh yeah, man, everything's we
just traveled. And then all of a sudden, you know,
and if you ever noticed too, people that are in
(01:11:45):
a relationship all of a sudden that are I mean,
have plastered all over social media everything they do, every move,
every they take a bite out of a burger, it's
on there. They go to the gym, it's on there.
They date their guy, they take a picture of their
marguerita with salt, but don't tell us where they got
it so we can go enjoy it as well. And
then they tell us how I love there, take a
picture with the guy, blah blah blah blah blah, and
(01:12:06):
then the relationship hits the ground where they're going great,
they're social, they're non existent. Oh I took some time away.
The second they're back on two days in a row.
You know what. You know, relationship ended, they're no longer
in a relationship, so they're back on to hunt and peck. Right, Okay,
what am I gonna? Let's go here? So yeah, the
constantly this, I'm also a little bit flabberg acid. No offense,
(01:12:28):
and I know people are gonna they're not like this,
but I think too many pictures of your young kids
in this world we live in, I don't do that.
I'm not judging the constant pictures of kids. Least some
of these cycles will stalk them out. I'm back pretty
especially Dottie. I get a little protective of that. I
love seeing the pictures of going back to school. But
(01:12:49):
some is you know, he might as well give the
phone number and the address up where the kids live.
You know. That's to me, it just feels too trustworthy
of social media and these nut jobs that are out there.
I'm like, don't don't be careful to to you know
what I'm saying. I guess I'm a little protective over that.
I just and relationships too, But but I'm with you,
(01:13:09):
the constant this, this, this, this, this, that everything. And
the truth is most people, I hate to say, don't care.
They care about their own life. So and then if
you're shoving it down their throat, the ones who don't
have relationship or either say what you're lying Your relationship sucks?
You know, is it's it could be combatant. And I
love when people are happy and they do it and
they get after it. But my favorite is the they've
(01:13:32):
been in the love of their life relationship with five
different people in some months. I'm like, man, man, Well,
that's called serial data and serial social media and probably
a little bit narcissistic and need social media's validation approval.
Everybody likes a like on something or something funny, of course,
but if that's what the relationship's founded upon, then then
(01:13:54):
then maybe you need to start over and get a
little bit of advice. I wouldn't know, but I just
I think that's I mean, I like people who operate
the relationships in private where people say, well, they still dating,
of course they are. They just don't need to let
you know everything they're doing. Well, that's okay.
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Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
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Speaker 5 (01:16:22):
Good morning, Michael.
Speaker 9 (01:16:25):
Hey, how y'all doing this morning?
Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
Good man?
Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
How are you hey?
Speaker 9 (01:16:29):
Pretty good? I just wanted to comment on the last
thing he said. I do agree with the social media
and the pictures of the kids on there. That's absolutely right,
especially sometimes the way they deposing their kids. I don't
need to see your five year old daughter twerkin or
your or six year old son throwing up gang signs.
They really get some up nervous when I'm seeing that.
(01:16:50):
But Sean, I have to disagree with you on the GPS.
It is more of a matter of convenience to have
the GPS somewhat tracked on GPS is not them checking
up on them or anything like that. It's just, you know,
I was just what especially with my kids, you know,
it's the safety issues. And with a girlfriend, I need
to know, you know when you're going to actually be well,
(01:17:11):
we're supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
At yeah, listen, and I said kids. I said, I
get while you put it on kids, especially in this
day and age when there's wackos out there, I said
kids for me, and I said, so right. And I
also said for you that may work, which I which
I'm okay with, And for me, I just don't believe
in it. I mean when I say don't believe it,
I don't do it. If somebody tells me they're supposed
(01:17:34):
to be there at seven o'clock and they're not there
till seven thirty, then you know, well, people say, well,
then you have it all. I mean, I guess I
don't go into my everyday life thinking significant other, if
you're married or if you're dating, that they're trying to
do wrong or did I got to track it. I
do get convenience for some I understand in some worlds
that may be For me, it just feels it feels
(01:17:55):
invasive and if I don't need it, so I don't
think it's convenient. If I say I'm going to be
somewhere at seven o'clock, you don't need a tracker on
my phone or on my car to to to know
that I'm gonna be there. If I'm not there at
seven o five, call me. If I don't answer, then
then then you can get and then and it's and
it's twelve o'clock. Then then concern kicks and then I
(01:18:16):
know the answer as well, Sean, if I had a
tracker on your phone, then i'd know where to find it.
I get why some do it. I I just don't.
I just know kids. I do one get it. I
think there's enough why. That's why I wouldn't. I don't
sit there and put kids on you know, nine year
old dance into the streets and stuff and let them
know where you live. Uh with kids, because I want
to protect them, even adult kids. I you know, I'm
(01:18:38):
I'm very protected that it's it's it's listen, it's it's
like anything you like. I like Reese's Peanut butter Cup,
you may like kid Cat. I just don't damn does
it because it's convenient for them For me, I would
on an adult if they if they don't have the
the the they can't show up on time on a
regular I don't need to know where they are on
the freeway. If it's the seven o'clock I'm a assuming
(01:19:00):
they're going to make the seven o'clock beating on time.
I just make it accountability and I'm assuming that they'll
be there on time. So for some it is convenience.
For me, I'm just going to take their word for it.
If they can't get a hold of me, they either
text or call, or I would do the same thing.
But I do get why some do it kids for sure, adults.
I just in a relationship, I don't need to an
(01:19:23):
older woman or grandpa or grandma. Where you're tracking your
mom because she's seventy five. For me, I don't need
to track a thirty year old if you're thirty and
thirty year in my age, I don't need to track
a girlfriend or a wife. I just it's not convenient
for me. It just feels invasive. But I do get
why others think it's okay.
Speaker 6 (01:19:42):
Well, this isn't an accusation, but let's just say that
the other in the relationship is constantly late.
Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Well, if they're constantly late, then I probably at some
point would be a deal breaker. The person who makes
you late to everything you do because they're an hour
all the time. Our personalities wouldn't mix because I think
to me, it's just telling me if I show up
late to everything that we're doing as a male or
(01:20:12):
female husband or wife, to me, you're telling me you
don't respect the people in the room. If a teammate
shows up late on a regular basis that I'm the coach,
I'm cutting him. I'm just cutting him. Hey, he didn't
fit in. You show up late. I've told this story man,
Dinny Green. Did Dinny Green, we had a rookie show
up late twice. He cussed out the veterans in a
(01:20:33):
morning meeting. For the guy show up late twice his
morning lift. Rookies had to be there at like six
and then six oh five. Six oh five didn't mean
six oh six. Where he's standing around the weight room
six o five, you're on your bench, ready to go
in your circuit. And if you were late. Steve or
Dinny Green every day asked Steve, how do we do today?
We had one late. Tell me it wasn't a rookie,
(01:20:54):
it was coach. It happened again. He goes, tell me
it wasn't the same rookie. He goes, it was. He
stopped the meeting, He cussed out the veterans, and he said,
if he's late again, not only will you guys be accountable,
I will cut him. He will know. And everybody knew
who we were talking about, and so did he. Everybody's
in the meeting room. He didn't say his name, and
(01:21:15):
he was never laid again because veterans basically grabbed him
by the nap of the next day we got and
he was a good player and a hell of a
good guy, he couldn't get there on time. And to me,
it's utter disrespect if you're put it this way. If
if you're married and your significant other can't show up
to pick a kid up at school, or show up
on time for dinner, or you're late going to pick
every single day, I wouldn't be in the relationship. It's
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the ultimate sign of team disrespect and relationship disrespect is
to think that your time matters more than your significant
other or your friend or your teammate. If that's the case,
what the hell's GPS going to do? You're just gonna
call up and say, hey, you know you're running late. Yeah,
for the fortieth day in a row. He's just going
to piss me off more. Because now I know where
they are, I can build in the excuse it, Well,
(01:22:02):
it's overslept, you're not feeling well. But you can oversleep
and not feel well how many times before I'm like,
you're out of your damn mind. No, that would piss
me off more. If you are constantly late. If I'm
a coach, I'm cutting you. Even if you're my best friend,
I'm cutting you. You're you are late for the fifth
time in a row. You're telling everybody else in the
building you don't respect their time you're out for I'm
(01:22:23):
cutting you. You're done. And if I'm in a relationship,
put it this way, I know real quick if I
was dating somebody, it's happened where I just to me consistently.
It's consistent disrespect. That means they'll disrespect everything else. Being
late is most of the times controllable. It's like getting
started ten minutes sooner. I think it's inexcusable the people
(01:22:46):
who constantly have to sleep in late and keep hitting
the snooze on there. That's on you. I don't need
a tracker to know that you're not for me. I
would never be in a relationship with a with a
person who was late all the time. I just wouldn't
do it because it would it would irritate something else,
and then I'd get mouthy and I'd start like, okay,
(01:23:08):
well that's cool, and then I would intentionally this is bad,
and I don't encourage this. I'm gonna show up forty
five minutes late for something that's important to you, and
you can say, what are you doing, I'm gonna say, well,
you know what, I just you know what I wasn't.
I got a little bit of a late start. Something
that I'm talking about is mightily important now because because
(01:23:29):
when it comes to that, I will keep score. And
I don't like to keep score, but I will. And
to me, you show up late all the time, that
tells me you got a relation, there's a major DNA flaw,
something's wrong. I don't care. If you got twenty kids
at home, I'll take care of the twenty kids. I
won't be late either. Once in a while's fine, I
get it. But if I'm tracking you and you're late
(01:23:50):
every day, I'm just gonna be pissed more. I'll get
you all the help. I'll help all you can be.
If I'm with my kids, I'll just leave earlier. You
got to get start. Sometimes you're late it's it's uncontrol ullable,
but it's inexcusable to be late all the time. I
would never I don't care if it was a fifteen
and was a billionaire and the best person on the planet.
If you're late all the time deal breaker for me.
I wouldn't date you in the first place. I just wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (01:24:12):
Well, we all got things we got to put up with,
and Gunnery Sergeant Hartman he finally realized, well, I can't
keep going after private Pile. Now I'm gonna have to
go after the platoon. And we saw all that worked out.
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Ray in Montana wants to weigh in.
Speaker 5 (01:25:47):
Ray, good morning, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 11 (01:25:50):
How are you guys?
Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
Good man, how are you?
Speaker 11 (01:25:53):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Excellent?
Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (01:25:54):
You guys were talking about the being late, and uh,
I was in navy. Trust me, they have ways to
make sure that if you're late once or you know,
no big deal. But if you're habitual later, uh, they're
gonna fix it. And it's kind of kind of brutal,
but you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
And then my, uh, my.
Speaker 11 (01:26:15):
Wife's boss, she's late to everything and she one time
had a speeding ticket and I was like, I asked her.
I was like, how does someone who's late to everything
get a speeding ticket, and so that's just my I mean,
I'll only live a mile from where I work, and
I leave twenty minutes early. My wife drives. I'm sure
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it drives my wife nuts. But anyway, Uh, you guys,
have a great day and talk to you later.
Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
I appreciate it, right, Yeah, I listen. I don't know
that I do understand people run late. We've been around
people that i'd like and friends of mine. It's just
that I don't trust it. That's why you rarely make
plans with them. I mean, if it's a normal thing,
it would drive me baddy. That's just me, and others
can handle it. That's fine, that's just not me. And
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I don't know how Ray's wife's boss got to be
a boss. There must be a lot of bad leadership,
and that it got to be a boss by being
late all the time. I wouldn't promote anybody that's late
all the time. Imagine in our business, showing up late
five minutes, ten minutes late to the show three days
a week. You're a boss. You tolerting that no matter
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how good the talent is, that the headaches too big
for the talent. That tells everybody else in the building
that your time's not as valuable as that person's sports work.
I don't know how anybody would have a leader that
shows up to the meeting late all the time, and
then I love it. Then then the self importance, Well
I'm the leader, I can show late that another meeting
with other important people. No, actually the people who actually
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make your business, of the people you wouldn't consider as Oh,
then have the vice president or president or see, those
are all important roles. But all the other people were
building it at ESPN. It wasn't the talent on TV.
That's what you saw. It was all the people grinding
their ass off. The production crew and the camera crew,
and the and the interns, and the and the pas,
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the production assistants would make that building go. The talent
just gets it in front of them and gets turned
on a mic and do it and look good with
makeup on and a tot and tie. While I gotta
have talent, I get it, but it doesn't listen. The
easiest thing to do, it doesn't take a lot of talent,
is show up on time. I get what we've all
been late traffic hits. You left ten minutes later than
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you normally would because for what it had that the
dog got out the backyard. Yet, whatever it is, and
you have to go, I get it. It's the we're
talking about habitual every day late. I'm not promoting anybody
that's late every day because the rest of the people
in the building think it's the farest. Trust me, even
if they're not telling the boss, they know, teammates know
who should be playing and who shouldn't show up late
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every day. You're getting cut. I couldn't. I don't know
how anybody can. If but he's in a relationship with
your significant others shows up late every day. I'm talking
about every day on a regular basis to something. They're
late all the time. Please tell me, why, tell me
how that feels, what that's like. How do you tolerate.
I'm curious because I'm pretty tolerant in most stuff. I'm
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pretty patient. I'm intolerant it consistently because it's just a
sign of disrespect. I just don't get it. So I'm
kind of curious how if somebody out there, male or female,
deals with it, And if you haven't, does it drive
you crazy? You just kind of it's cool because everything
else is fine. Because that is a controllable problem in
a relationship. To me, some health isn't. Sometimes you're going
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to be late. Kids. But when people say, well, I
got five kids at home, I understand, Well, guess what
I guess When I've taken care of three dogs and
kids at home two and my three children and somebody else,
I guess I better start a little earlier. Things happen.
People are gonna be like habitual late people. I can't.
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I can't. I don't follow. I just have never understood.
It's disrespect. My dad hated it, hated it. You tell
me again. And it's also that we've all been in this.
I know a buddy of mine who's got his significant other.
You could be going to the grocery store and got
to do the full that it takes like two hours
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to get out of the house every time you see
and I'm like, I couldn't handle it. Hey, We're just
going down to get a burger and everything got to
get every layer of gut, put a baseball cap on it.
Let's go get a burger and beer. Her that driving
it drives him crazy, but he loves her and everything's fine.
But a guy, we all have our flaws. Trust me,
plenty of them. I got being late consistently ain't ever
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going to be one of them because I couldn't handle it.
Speaker 6 (01:30:52):
Well, it's also too I mean, from the professional standpoint
of it is I mean standards, If you don't have them,
then you're up against it.
Speaker 5 (01:30:59):
In the first place.
Speaker 6 (01:30:59):
But I think there's also a fine line two sean
of micromanagement. I mean, you know it's it's a oh,
well it has to be done this way. Well, no,
I mean this person's different than that person. I mean
it's we see it all the time, even in our
business hosting shows. I mean, remember I told you once
that I worked with somebody who said, I want this
show to sound like the next one. I said, well,
then you're going to have an awful sports radio station.
Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Because if you want to sound like the next Yeah,
if you want to sound like the next one, then
put the same two people on both shows. If you
want to sound like the same thing. I don't like.
And I'm very bandwidth and understanding of situations moments that happen.
I am. But if if you're a boss and you're
one of your salespeople shows up to the meeting late
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every day, what are you doing I mean, isn't it
telling it? There are all other salespeople or executives or
a sports team or class. What do you what are
you telling me? Like I said, I always just say,
control the things you can control. Even then sometimes we
can hand But for the most part, showing up on
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time is not It is not you can't you can't
be well. You know, for the third day in a row.
Showing up on time doesn't take a lot effort. I mean,
it may take time, or you got to get up
ten minutes earlier. And I know that traffic hits in there,
But I'm talking about that person that you know, damn well,
if they got an extra hour sleep, they'll take the
extra our sleep plus ten and they'll still be in
the same area. They'll still be late. The people that
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are listening, they say, no, Sean being late, it's just
part of life sometimes if it's it is going to
be part of my life, I will. I would never
ever date a long term or relationship of a woman,
or if I was a woman. I mean, my dad
would have never buried my mother. If my mother he
wouldn't have My dad he just and he loved her.
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But if she was late, all the time, they had
never stayed in the relationship at the beginning. That's how
I am a damn I'm waiting again, ballgame, You're late school,
you're late church, you're late to other meetings. Not so
much that I if you love somebody to deal with it.
It's what you're the message you're sending to everybody else
that your self importance matters far more than anybody's. Now,
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if you have health issues and can't get a ride
because you're sixty and you've had a blown out knee
or you've had some health issues, of course, we'll come
to you whatever it takes. I'm just telling that, in
a daily relationship, healthy people in their forties, if you're
late every day, that's that's a top notch deal breaker
for me. I would not stay in it.
Speaker 6 (01:33:27):
I had an old roommate and buddy of mine who
he would be late to work and a few times
he had used car trouble as an excuse. Boss pulls
him into the office and said, you know, hey, late
again to day. You know the car giving you a
hard time. Then he finally, he finally laid down the hammer.
Here he goes, well, here's what I'm going to tell
you either get a new car or find a new job.
Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
Yeah, oh, there's there's no doubt. Well, I don't make
enough to get a new car what you have, and
you're you're definitely not making enough now and turn your
playbook in and I'll see another day because you're done here. Yeah,
I this sympathy of once twice say, I get it. Kids,
you're pregnant, that the guy's been sick, he took over.
You got three kids and three dogs, and the husband's
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out of town, and moms got all this stuff to
of course I get it, and bosses do too. But
every single day in the same excuse, it's the same
excuse of that person who you don't want it that
you've sent a thousand messages to you know they see
him text you. Oh man, I didn't see your message
for the four thousandth time. Sure you didn't, or I
would have been there on time. Dude, My bad, My bad.
Then then I know, not for me, but I would.
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There's certain things when you get into Really, would you
get into a relationship with somebody who's stunk all the time? No,
who had bad body? I mean because they didn't shower enough,
or use or didn't brush their teeth.
Speaker 5 (01:34:42):
That's a deal breaker.
Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Okay, so is late for me? I put that under
the bad hygiene. Consistently late shows consistent disrespect for you
and everybody else, And it tells me you don't care
enough about yourself for the people around you. Yeah, if
you're consistently I don't care. If you've got one hundred
dogs at home, you better start a little earlier, Belichick. Hell,
you remember the time then running back had a great game,
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or a super Bowl game, or a playoff game, great
playoff game, and then it was late during a snowstorm.
Remember Belichick sent him home. He was in Like in
a snowstorm, is late for practice or get into the meeting?
Send him home? Well, if it's a snowstorm, well, Belichick,
you better leave an hour sooner. Yeah, that was my
dad's philosophy. Now, my dad was a construct. My dad
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would get there. It was like he was routine. Man.
You got to be checked in as a you know,
as a plaster by trade. I'm in by six, in
by seven. The shift starts with seven. He's in there,
sitting in there. Well, whether it's having a you know,
breakfast smoothie at six, at six thirty five whatever his
day sitting there bowling over what his day was like,
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and he was in the construction world. My dad didn't
show up late. Ever, my dad, my dad did not
show up late. If he told my mom, I'm being
home with dead that's when the GPS would have come in.
If my dad said home at five fifteen, and he
walked in that door at five fourteen every single day,
if he was home at five forty five, we were
all worried what happened? Why didn't My dad was a
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was a military time, but he didn't talk in military time.
He just felt it was a sign of respect to
get there on time. And I feel the same way.
And in relationship, that's a deal break with me. Just
like you said, bad breath, bad body, older because you
just don't care about yourself. Those are deal breakers in
an early relationship. That's the way I am about the
constant being late to somebody. We're all late. I've been.
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I've been late plenty in my life, but I'm not consistently.
Once you're late with somebody, once you want to do that,
you want to test the boss again. Not bad idea,
those are those, those are grounds for you better find
a new gig or a new boyfriend.
Speaker 6 (01:36:41):
Well, it's like Greg on what's it not Old school
Belushi the college movie Animal House, as Greg, the frat
guy on Animal House, once said to Blueto, don't you
have any respect for yourself?
Speaker 5 (01:36:55):
I mean, that's pretty much what it is, Sean.
Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
That's what it all comes to others. And when it's time,
it's others time too, because you're more important than the
rest of us, So you can show up late. That's
exactly when we realize you're not that important at all.
And a boss should never show up late. You can't
be a boss and show up late. You just can't.
Speaker 6 (01:37:11):
Well, when it comes to Jordon Alvarez, better late than never,
I feel like is the tenor went approaching him. We'll
talk about the Astros in what we could hope to
see from him this week on the field, trying to
ramp up for a return.
Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
We'll do that right here. It is a Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:37:29):
I'm a Dillard Man.
Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (01:37:34):
As Sean, we get back into the Astros conversation and
the last time the Astros were in town, well, the
day before they left was when we found out the
news about Jordon Alvarez, so of course we weren't expecting anything.
But now they've been gone for a week, they are back.
The fracture at the time was quote sixty percent healed,
which even a week and a half later, I still
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have no idea what that means. But Dana Brown, we
played the audio yesterday with Robert Ford on Astro Launch
on Sunday, saying that the next step get a bat
in his hands, ramp him up to live pitching, everything
of the sort. Was expected to keep running and doing
all the other baseball activities, just not swinging a bat.
So hopefully if we see him on the field in
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the cage any other way of him swinging a bat,
that that would hopefully be the final step needed for
him to make his return after about a month and
a half away.
Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
And I don't mean this as a smart ass. I
mean this seriously, and I'll talk to Dana about this tomorrow.
But when when I saw that two sixty percent of
the fracture is healed, is that correct? Is that how
that's correct? Yes? Right? Okay, So in two weeks it
took what was supposed to be a soft tissue issue, right,
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And like I said, I'm just trying to timeline and
figure out how how quickly people can get back. This
is for how we can get him on the field.
And I'm not a medical staff, and I'm being honest
when I asked this is and having been through a
bunch of injuries, my own, my damn self, and surgeries.
So if if a what was considered initially to be
a soft tissue injury was a couple week, put him
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on the ten day. Then it went longer and was extended.
So let's say a twenty day and that's for soft tissue.
But then a structural part of a fracture sixty percent
and that was ten days to twelve days ago. We
heard that maybe two weeks. Let's just say two weeks, right,
So is the is the and they say that we
always say we don't rush anybody back too soon. I'm
just looking at logic and timelines. So if two weeks
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ago or a little less than two weeks was sixty
percent of a fracture healed, that's barely half a little
over half. So in two weeks the fractures healed, and
we expect to see him sooner than later. I mean,
I would think that there's a I mean, think how
long it took to heal the sixty percent. So if
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all of a sudden it was a fracture at the
beginning because they you know, swelling went down and they
did more imaging. So he's been out what thirty days now?
Has it been thirty days or more?
Speaker 6 (01:40:11):
Yeah? May the second was his last game.
Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
Okay, ironically enough against the White Sox five weeks. Today's
the tenth of June, So five weeks it took that
that was sixty percent to heal where he was doing
no activity for the most part, so there still was
forty percent to heal. So the forty percent is going
to heal in a week ten days? Shouldn't we expect
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in our time? If so, we're not disappointed. Anything else
is a bonus. And like I said, this is not
a smart ass high being serious. Shouldn't we in our
minds gear up for the fact that, Okay, if it
took thirty days to heal sixty percent and we didn't
even know the diagnosis ten days until two weeks ago,
the full diagnosis that it was a fracture, didn't we
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expect at least twenty more days to heal it or
it's full go, because I know they don't want to
put him out there where he's eighty percent, right, you
want to fracture to heal one hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
Am I correct in this?
Speaker 5 (01:41:15):
I mean that's what they've maintained from the beginning, Yeah,
that they want that.
Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Olate to happen. So you want you don't want rush
anybody back because you don't want to linger. That was
a soft tissue part. And you sure as hell don't
want like Kyle Tucker's last year, fracture his on his shin.
You don't want to bring him back eighty five per
cent ninety percent bound and bang another one to offer
you ort on Alvarez at eighty five or ninety percent.
And you know, even if his threshold of paint says
I can go, you don't want what if you know
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a ball hits there or something you want? You want
to get him one hundred percent. So I guess what
I'm saying is is the forty percent healing faster than
the first sixty percent? Is that where we are? So
what should our expectations be? The gun's going to be
back in a week. That if he's already picking up
bat and not going to go down for assignment live pitching.
And then they don't want to, you know, have him
down there where they takes time. They want to get
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him back as soon as possible. So where is that?
And now is not panic? But is there this sense
of urgency to get him back because of that? I
don't want to say misdiagnosis or because the swelling it
was a little bit of a later diagnosis went from
soft tissue to a fracture on the structure. I guess
what I'm saying, I'm just trying to prepare myself for
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I don't see how if forty percent had to heal
and get stronger as well in two weeks that you
should expect him back anytime soon. I don't tell you
can put a timeline on that. We're judging by that,
I would think you're to be lucky to have him
by the end of the month. But maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe it was it's more than sixty percent. I don't know,
but it seems when two weeks ago on it was
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sixty percent. Even if it's at eighty percent, are you
running him out there at eighty percent heel.
Speaker 6 (01:42:49):
I mean, if you are probably where the Rangers are
right now, then maybe he would even start to have
a little bit of the initiative to try to run
back and be running back to one hundred percent as possible.
Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
So running back suit okay, close to one hundred percent
if you're the Rangers. But if you're the okay, so
what is it if you're if you're a little you know,
if you're four or five games out trying to get hot,
do you running back sooner because he needs bat Or
if you're three or four games in front and six
seven games over five hundred do you wait longer because
you're playing pretty well? Steve Sparks had mentioned they have
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good record without him, and the same thing they had
a hell of a record without Kyle Tucker. My thing is,
you wait till he's healed. Now that we're here and
know the diagnosis, you got to wait till he's healed,
and that you wait till he gets to his one
hundred percent, and when he does or close, then you
go run him out there. So I guess I'm just
trying to figure out the timeline of Okay, sixty ten
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to twelve to fourteen days ago, did the other forty percent,
is it already close to healing, baseball activity getting going?
Do you expect to see him by the twentieth of
June that's ten days from now.
Speaker 5 (01:44:02):
I would bet no.
Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
Yeah, I'm going to go. If that was forty percent,
I'm going to go. You don't see him till a
new month, and then I'm not gonna I mean, that's
twenty days. That's twenty days which would have been like
thirty days plus since the diagnosis of or so since
knowing it was sixty percent that the fracture was healed
sixty percent, it just seemed not only you got to
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heal the fracture, you got to get stronger, you got
to get range of motion, all these things you got
to do. I'm not a doctor, but these things I
do know. But I don't know how long it takes. Again,
each individual is different. So I think you'd be disappointed
or would be irritated if you decided to say we
all played dog and say, at this time next week,
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Jordan's gonna be swinging a full bat. I don't see
how I think that Aaron on the side of caution,
How are you going to see him in the next
fifteen days. Wouldn't that be semi I don't want to
say miraculous, but wouldn't that be semi on the fast track?
Considering that we found out two weeks ago that he
has a fracture on his hand, and as Dana is
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set on our show, those hands are important, especially for
a big guy like that with that torque. We're not
talking about a singles guy. We're talking about a guy
who has the ball, leaves his bat explodes off his back.
So where are you in the okay? Where is the
gap of okay? We're ninety percent, we're good to go?
Is it a full hundred percent? And then he feels
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threshold of pain? Is good to go? I just think
for I think we'll be disappointed if you think this
time next week he's playing full time. If he is,
it would be phenomenal. I just don't think that you
should think that in my judging from what we've heard.
But then again, hell, some guys just heal different and
heal faster than others. But I don't think you're going
to risk running him out there at eighty five percent
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and there's no way that it can be one hundred
percent when ten days to two weeks ago was at
sixty percent on a fracture. There's no way.
Speaker 6 (01:45:57):
Well, hopefully we're in for a surprise later on today
when the Astros get back on the field for batting practice,
warm ups, all those other things to get fired up
for this series and the return back to Dyke and Park.
Continuing the Astros conversation, John, See, you're right there. A
couple of other people want to way in. There's a
couple of spots open if you want to join them.
Sub one three two one two five seven ninety. Again
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that sub one three two one two five seven ninety.
Continuing here on the Sean Salisbury Show, the seven ninety
listener line in the eight o'clock hour is presented by
one eight hundred car Cash talking Astros here seven one
three two one two five seven ninety. John in Fresno
wants to weigh in. John, good morning, Hey, good morning,
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Gas and Nicky.
Speaker 12 (01:46:41):
I got a I got a question for Buffy y'all,
and I want all opinions.
Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
Now.
Speaker 12 (01:46:46):
I've been I've been watching the THO and uh, I
like the outfield, the Milton.
Speaker 13 (01:46:52):
Uh uh uh Cam and uh and uh myers my yeah, yeah,
thank you, thank you, I like that, I feel I
like that youth, and I like their speed out there.
Speaker 8 (01:47:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
I know that two big.
Speaker 12 (01:47:07):
Bus playing out left field, but I noticed that he
put thirty five there, and I noticed that every time
he playing left field not too productive at the plate.
So my thing is this here, and this is what
I want you all opinion on.
Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
Uh do you do you?
Speaker 12 (01:47:21):
I suggest that they leave them young species out there
the covered field, both corners in the middle, because they're
doing a great job.
Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
Bring a two me back in.
Speaker 12 (01:47:33):
And put them you know, if you got the rotating
by what ruds check him to do that when he's
not the the agent and let him come back and
feel and let them answers take care of that that
I feel out there like they've been doing. And uh,
I want to hear your opinion on that, because I
think if they let them answers stay out there, they'll
save a lot of runs by having them out there.
(01:47:55):
I think a two beds running too much out there,
and I think it's zapping a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
Of energy act he can do. I want to hang
up and him all.
Speaker 5 (01:48:04):
I appreciate the call. I mean for right now.
Speaker 6 (01:48:06):
Obviously without Jordon Sean, you have to situate your line
up a little bit more because you want to get
Victor Carrattini involved because of how well he has swung
the bats. I mean not so much as of late,
but that means that jose L Twove probably playing a
little bit more second base, and Jacob Melton being up here. Well,
if he's here, then you want to play him, kind
(01:48:27):
of like what we talked about with Cam Smith and
to some degree Zach Dezenzo.
Speaker 1 (01:48:33):
I would one agree. I listen and I get what
uh what he's saying about young outfielders with speed. Let
them play out there. They're going to mix and match
the line. You know this, Dan, Right when Jordon comes back,
he's still going to play some left field. You do
know this, right for sure? And and Al two Bay
is going to spend time out there and they will
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have whether that's like you know, the the Meltains, Decenzos,
Cam Smith, mccorny, m Myers, the group dubon that al
Tuove there, this is, this is who they are. You're
not gonna get left field, centerfield, right field done. You know,
young young young, it's not I do get what he's saying.
Let them police it and take care of the rest
and those young, energetic outfitterers who can run. But this
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is just a team and a lineup that one hundred
and thirty to one hundred and forty times one hundred
and twenty five to one hundred and forty times a year.
You're going to see different players in different positions, and
it's just the way it is. And I get what
he's saying, and I think I think we're a year
or so or two away from it being where it's like, man,
we can put Decenzo in disposition left field and one
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in center, you know, whether it's Jake Myers, and then
Cam Smith and Wright or Melton in his position and
start to work these young and this is the next
generation of hopefully greatness for this team and getting him
in and that young youth. But you're still going to
see veterans out there that may not have the same speed,
just because this team util a lot of days off
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and a lot of lineup changes. They just do and
they put people in different spots to keep them ready,
whether you and I like it or not.
Speaker 6 (01:50:08):
Well, and you're trying to find the most maximum production
that you can have this lineup, which I mean at
times we've seen they've been able to be extremely productive,
but more often than not, we've been left wanting more.
So that involves Mauricio Dumont at second base, who again
fits that same mold. And for you know, for Brendan
Rodgers hit the home run on Friday, but for the
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most part he's been pretty disappointing at the plate this year.
Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
So that means still going to see some run though,
you're still going to give him run. You're gonna give
him run there. You've got three second basemen, You're gonna
have six seven guys that are going to move around
in the outfield. It's just the way it is. And
Jordon's not Jordon's gonna play some left field when he
comes back if he just is. So they're going to
just continue this who they are. I know Joe said
he didn't want to do one hundred and forty seven
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different lineups this year, But I don't know what they've
been at now. But I don't know if we've gone
three days in a row that you can remember with
the same exact lineup for four days in a row.
Speaker 6 (01:51:03):
First four, first five, Yeah, but after that, Yeah, it
usually moves around pretty.
Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
Good, Yeah, pretty often so, but that's a specialization we're
in and getting people ready just in case. And I
don't think that's going to change here. But a good
point by him, and there's some youth that can run
in that outfield that the future is pretty damn bright
when you look at defensively and offensively what you have
out there.
Speaker 5 (01:51:25):
For sure.
Speaker 6 (01:51:26):
Brandon At wants to weigh in here. Good morning, Brandon,
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
I say, I was playing my game.
Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
That's cool. Ye, sorry, I was playing my game.
Speaker 5 (01:51:35):
Now, that's all good, Bud.
Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
I was.
Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
I was.
Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
Chose when's my callers?
Speaker 5 (01:51:45):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (01:51:45):
So yeah, I mean he's throwing the night against Shane Smith.
So I mean you've got a pretty good track record there.
Hopefully you're able to pull them through tonight.
Speaker 4 (01:51:54):
Actually I'm doing different picture before the game starts.
Speaker 6 (01:51:59):
Okay, all right, so you're working ahead. I see how
you're working here. But we talked about earlier, Brandon that
the Astros got ten games in thirteen days against teams
that are below five hundred, so you expect them to
go on a little bit of a run here.
Speaker 4 (01:52:18):
I'm not going to borrow the lead, but I'm going
to try to.
Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
Get so I talk not score again.
Speaker 5 (01:52:25):
Gotcha? Gotcha?
Speaker 6 (01:52:26):
All right, Well, hopefully McCullers can hold them off tonight
and hopefully you win.
Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Man.
Speaker 6 (01:52:32):
Yeah, did you see the dying by pulling it off?
Speaker 1 (01:52:38):
We did.
Speaker 6 (01:52:39):
Yeah, We've been talking about that all throughout the morning.
The Astros have a three game lead now on Seattle.
Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
I'm happy, awesome man.
Speaker 5 (01:52:48):
Well, hey, good luck in your game and we'll catch
up with you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
Okay, all right, Good morning, Sean.
Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
Good morning, buddy. Appreciate your Brandon, and I hope you
have a great day. Always good to hear from you.
Thank you. Hey, Dan, I do have a quick for you.
What's acceptable the next thirteen games record wise?
Speaker 5 (01:53:05):
No less than seven and six.
Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
Oh, I think we'd be cheating ourselves at seven and six,
don't you.
Speaker 6 (01:53:12):
Well, I mean, i'd like to think that you can
take two out of three at least from Chicago. You
like to sweep, especially after you lost this series to them.
But it's also too I mean, you have to factor
in that Ryan Gusto is going to go in this series,
and unfortunately I can't trust him right now to be
able to put you in position to be able to
win games. And you've gotten good things out of Colton
(01:53:33):
Gordon and out of Brandon Walter. But I mean, same deal.
There's three guys in this rotation I can trust. And
it comes down to what we've talked about all along.
You hit, you win games. They don't hit well. Then
we see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (01:53:47):
Say I look at the opposite. You pitch, you win games,
and you hope that you get hitting two extend games
and with a bigger lead. I'd love both. When they're
doing both, they're a pretty impressive force, as are most
teams in the league. When you're on a role hitting
and they it looks like a softball and you're getting
great pitching. So you said thirteen ten of the next
thirteen are sub five hundred, correct. Yes, so they're gonna
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I don't care who's pitch. Yeah, I don't care who's pitching.
Give me, give me. If they're not eight and five
coming out of this, I think it's a disappointing trip.
I understand that you want to win series and the rest,
but if you're not eighting, these are these are pars. Now,
remember you're now playing oakmontt us Open coming up this week, right,
These are the ones that you go into the tournament.
Say man, now at the US Open. Hell, par may
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win you the damn tournament because the grass is high.
But you get my point that you come out of
this in thirteen games and you're you know, seven and six.
I would not consider that a great run. I know,
it's one game over five hundred and you're doing and
Gusto's pitch, and you got some young pitches, but they're
pitching them because they expect them to do well and
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for the team to elevate around them so they get
more run support, so they don't have to do what
Fromer or Hunter Brown do and go through an eight
inning gym where you give up two hits. So and
if you get it, that's great. But for me, I
can't against the teams and sub five hundred teams, I
think it's inexcusable. Now when you say that, I don't
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mean at that heart, so that's a little hyperbolic. But
to not come out of this three games over five hundred,
when ten of the teams you're playing out of the
next thirteen are sub five hundred. If you're gonna tell
me they're a World Series team, you can't, then then
I don't want to hear that. Yeah, they were six
and seven against sub five hundred teams. Well, ten of
the games there were six and four in those ten
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games against sub five hundred teams and against teams post
five hundred they won the series. That's still eight and five.
That would be eight and five. So to me, you
have got to you you have got to go six
and four and then and then two and three, and
and you know, two and one. I guess in the
next one, you got to get to eight and five.
To me, this is this is where you make those runs.
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Eight and five isn't too much to ask in my.
Speaker 6 (01:55:57):
Opinion, especially to how well the Ash was played in
the month of June in recent years. You'd like to
be able to continue that trend. You're gonna have three
against the White Sox, three against the Twins, who are
the team that's above five hundred, four on the road
against the A's who are not good, and then you're
gonna get three in Anaheim. And you'd like to be
able to at least push the Angels towards what we
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believe they will be.
Speaker 5 (01:56:19):
And that's a team that falls out of contention.
Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
Yeah, I listen, Well, the Angels that we've seen the movie.
I just don't know they have sustainability for a buck
sixty two of this, I just don't Maybe this year's
the aberration. Wash is a good manager. Players respond to him.
He's always had that ability. Yet they're just they're not
as gifted as these other two teams. They've got better
players this year, and they've upgraded in certain situations, especially
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got a little bit more pitching. But yeah, to me,
keeping count, they don't come out of this with eight wins,
it'll be to me a bit surprising, and they should.
They should win every series they play in in the
next thirteen games.
Speaker 6 (01:56:56):
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Speaker 6 (01:58:26):
They're in ready to work today. If that's not the
case around the league, see that Terry McLaurin in Washington,
he is not there. Trey Hendrickson in Cincinnati the same
deal and TJ. Watt Up in Pittsburgh. They are all
absent from work as they get going.
Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
Yeah, is Hendrickson still contracted? They pay him?
Speaker 5 (01:58:47):
They have not paid him yet, that is yea, yeah,
that is That is why he is.
Speaker 1 (01:58:52):
And he deserves to get paid. Man, I'd be paying
a tell if you want to leave that guy out there.
I know a bunch of teams like stand in line
for that one. So yeah, this time, this final tune
up as far as team tune up goes for most teams,
if not well all teams before you know, guys going
to their individual take a little vacation coaches included, and
come back in July ready to go. So and do
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many camps matter? If they didn't matter, we wouldn't have them,
especially at the time. Why what is a mini camp
matter in June? Sean, Well, what it matters is you're
not bringybody to the ground, you're not hitting people. But
the mental side of gathering information and getting into your
book and understanding that in six weeks we got to start.
It's a head start, and people who don't pick it up,
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it's really easy to lose being in shape and lose
focus during vacation time, it is go take a vacation.
Everybody takes them. Think about your job. Go take a vacation,
and to be going a week or two weeks. When
you come back, what's the feeling. Man? You want to
get back, you're excited to get back. But there's part
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of that it's like, whooh, I got changed my rhythm.
It's safe. They go to a gym workout for a
year straight. I think, man, that was a hard grind
to get myself back to where I wanted to be.
And then take three weeks off or a month off
and do nothing and you feel like you're starting over again.
So the mental grind for this, why listen, nobody's going
to ground. You're not worried about it. You know the CJ.
Stroud can throw a curl route. You want to make
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sure that Nick Chubb understands what we're trying to get
accomplished and more philosophy, what we're trying to get accomplished here,
not just the goals of winning a championship but how
we're getting to it. What you wants one thing, The
why and how you're going to get to it is
another thing. So mini camps are important. And know an
interception in mini camp has nothing to do with the
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throwing in October. But if you made that throw in
mid camp and it was because mentally you didn't understand
the pass route or the coverage, you didn't understand what
you were trying to get accomplished, and you do it
three more times, well, they're in lives. The reason. I mean,
you know you're not seeing it the way that we
intended to. For mini camp. It's just to get a
feel for your teammates and to get an introduction into
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what you're trying to get accomplished. But it is important,
or there would be no reason to have it in June.
They'll take their vacation. But it's like anything, Dan, if
you team to teach me a lesson, if you're a
school teacher, teach us and I don't go apply it
for a week or two right away. The second I
get home or you're training somebody, what happens You go back,
got to do it again. So take what you learn
here and apply it. I know it sounds cheesy, like
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come on, Sean, that's overboard, but for some it isn't.
See the greatest equalizer or the greatest eliminator should I
say in football? I'll just speak for football. It's not
that a guy physically is not good. Everybody that's going
to line up on that field for the Texas, anybody
else's a good player. They were really good in college,
and they dominated in their high school. You know what
it is. The great eliminator is the mental part of
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getting behind. This is a chance to get you ahead
of that first week of training camp when they overload
you with formations, motions, defensive coverage. I'm just speaking from
the offensive side of the ball. Of all the things
that they're going to put in. They're trying to fit
a library in two weeks, a full library, and then
they'll just add to it, and you may never use
the full library during the season. But what gets behind,
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and I've said this before, Dan the receiver who comes
in wants to hang around the veterans during tranking, could
go out and have a beer. That was attention in
mini camp, but really didn't study that much between June
and July. Didn't get his nose into his playbook. And
you know what happens is eight plays, nine passes, five runs,
six formations, four coverages in the morning practice to open
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open training camp. Then go home and take your nap,
and then then we're adding four more formations, three more motions,
four more coverages, six pass plays and five more runs
with different formations in motion. And you're the Z or
the X. You got to play both of it. I
want I want to see it both. And now, oh
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my gosh, if you're not studying the tream prime, then
you go and before you know it, you're a weekend.
The library is in and you're breaking the huddle going
the wrong way? What's the coach thinking? Guys, not preparing
now that he dropped the ball that's going to happen.
You don't give yourself a chance physically if you mentally
don't know how to get lined up. That's what this
is for.
Speaker 6 (02:03:07):
And Hendrickson on the second franchise tag, so he cannot
be franchise tagged anymore, just trying to get a long
term deal.
Speaker 1 (02:03:15):
Can still they can still give him a long term
deal right right now under the walle he's under the franchise.
Speaker 6 (02:03:20):
Tag, right and that's what he's hoping to get. But
doesn't sound like there's much talking there. But at least
there is talking, and it's already been done, an opportunity
for this Houston Texan. We'll talk about it. John on
the northwest side, see you there. And Chris Gordy actually
going to join us at nine point thirty this morning
instead of his customary nine o'clock spot.
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The Diamondbacks beat the Mariners last night, walk off grand
slam from Josh Naylor to be able to put the
Astros in front of Seattle, three games in the West
and the Texans back on the practice field for mandatory
mini camp later on this morning. Nick Chubb, now here
on a one year, two point five million dollar deal,
can pay him as much as five million. Someone three
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get in been talking a little bit of Texans and
John on the northwest side wants to weigh in.
Speaker 5 (02:04:59):
John.
Speaker 1 (02:04:59):
Good morning, Hey Sean, Dan.
Speaker 8 (02:05:02):
What's up man?
Speaker 5 (02:05:03):
They doing?
Speaker 8 (02:05:05):
Hey man, I'm good, I'm good. Look man, I want
to ask y'all about Dalton shops. But let me just
throw this come in out there right quick. Since y'all
was talking about dash doors. You know, ow two Bay
man when he out there running to catch a fly
ball and he either slide prematurity or he shouldn't slide
at all. I can't get mad at him. Man, I'm
just laughing, you know, because it's our two Bay. It's
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a good thing.
Speaker 1 (02:05:27):
He built up so.
Speaker 8 (02:05:29):
Many brownie points with this organization. Man, it's just hilarious.
But this is what I want to ask y'all. Man, Look,
what is your opinion? You know, I was thinking Dalton shooks.
You know it's you know, I'm not gonna lie. He
pissed me off real bad last season. I mean, I
know a tight end can't block these big guys, but
I thought that his effort the block was just so horrible.
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And what I'm thinking, with these receivers and running bags
that can play the slide, that the Texans drafted and Reving.
Speaker 1 (02:06:00):
Jordan coming back and all that stuff.
Speaker 8 (02:06:03):
I think that Dalton Shulkes probably, I hope he's thinking
that he's under pressure, that he's gonna have to do
better this season and make maybe more of an eft
to block because we have this new offensive coordinator. And really,
you know, I wouldn't be surprised if Dalton Shulks find
hisself on the bench and not getting a whole lot
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of playing time with all these guys we have now
that can you know, play that slot positioning like the
receiver that they picked up from the Jaguars that run
the rookie running back. They got a lot of guys
man that can frankly take Dalton Shulke's place and Revend Jordan.
I think he's a whole lot more athletic and a
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whole lot more faster. So what do you all think
about that? You think maybe Dalton Shilkes better watch yourself have.
Speaker 1 (02:06:52):
A good day. He better play like his hair's on
fire under pressure. Let's call it like we see it.
Talented guy. Now, I need more from him offensively, whether
that's play calling in the mix and or quarterback him
same page, if he ain't gonna block. You better catch
a hundred passes because he's not a good blocker. He's
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a detriment blocking as an in guideline scrums. He just
is and that that's not the physical nature you need.
Now listen, are they win pits? Well, Sean Kelsey's not
a physical blocker, just kind of gets in the way, right,
But he's not Kelsey. Hey, that's an outlier. You better
catch a hundred balls. So I think he needs more
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production in the passing game, not just in block I
think I think that position is such an important position
in matchup issues in this league. It just is. If
you've got a guy who can put his hand in
the dirt, go out and play the stand up in
the slot, can go out and run a slant route
or a go route from the outside receiver position, come
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down in motion, motion him out of the back of
that versatility and catch eighty five ninety balls. Will still
lock a little bit, but you got a second tight
end that's basically your physical guy, but your other receivers
creating mismatch problems. If you got a guy who's that
good and he's got his hand in the dirt or
he's standing up and they decide they want to go
bigger personnel. That means a linebacker's covering him. If a
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linebacker covers my receiving tight end, the kelsey's those guys
in this league, the brock Bowers a problem. Brock Barers
is a pass catcher. I got news for you. The
brock Boars isn't going to dominate the line of scrimmage,
but brock Bowers is going to be. He's going to
catch a hundred balls. That's why those guys are rare.
But the mismatch problems you create if you've got a
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guy like the Tony Gonzalez in the past, or somebody
like that who blocks and catches, if you decide to
go big and put a linebacker on him, he's too
elusive for a linebacker. If you decide to go small
and put a nickel corner or a safety on him,
you're too big to those corners. The tightand is too
big to handle. So it's a great mismatch opportunity at
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that position. When you get physical specimens like pits, those
guys are rock Bowers who can run routes from anywhere
on the field. But don't discount how important it is
for that guy to be able to control an outside
linebacker or somebody up in the lane that you got
to go up and get on a safety in the block.
The first down's happened with physicality. Long runs happened from
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blocking downfield and condemn ant the line of scrimmage. And
he's got to get better. Schultz was a detriment blocking
and I'll be I contend that even at the pass
catching position, he's got to catch more and he's he's
got some skills there. So yeah, if he's not looking
at his competition, then he's probably going to about it wrong.
He's not a sacred cow. He's going to have to
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play well to get all the run he wants there.
Good player, but he's got to do more, and I
expect more from him. But he's never going to dominate
blocking the line of scrimmage, but he at least got
to give an effort. You got to pretend like you're
at least getting in the way of a guy at
a time he was ny. I could have taken a
sixty year old to put his hand in the dirt
and block better. He's got to be better. If not,
then somebody else will. Pretty simple well, I think there's
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a few things to consider here too. I mean, the
last couple of years they've invested in the draft and
tight end in blocking guys Kate Stover, Luke Lache out
of Iowa. This year, if those guys are here to
be able to add that physical presence to the position,
and I want to go jumbo and put multiple tight
ends in the game, no doubt. Sure.
Speaker 6 (02:10:26):
And I mean, and it does sound like that's what
Nick Cayley wants to be able to do this year.
I mean, John mentioned Brevin Jordan getting him back. I mean,
and another reason too, you weren't getting production out of
that spot. Irv Smith Junior, a guy that I think
had a lot more promise coming into the league hasn't
necessarily lived up to it. You signed him during the
middle of last season, so you've kept him around for
a reason to be able to, I guess, be able
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to try to find any production possible in that spot.
But I mean it also gets back to you know,
with Schultz last year, the injuries you had at the
receiver spot, was he good enough to be able to
overcome those And the answer was no. So if you're
having a guy it's a pass catching tight end and
he's answering no to that question, then Sean, I mean
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it kind of gets to a point of what are
you doing with the guy?
Speaker 1 (02:11:12):
And if the tight end is it right? If the
tight end position put it this way again, if my
veteran tight end getting paid is making is giving me
the same production as a younger guy who's coming off
the bench, why am I playing it? Starting it? That's
my point I got to And I think Schultz' is
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a talented guy. I was when they brought him over
from Dallas. I thought, Man, it is a pass catcher.
This is a good, good weapon. They've got to expand
the tight end position. They absolutely, whether it's a commitment
to it in the meeting room and a play calling
and I personally don't care if it's my committee, I don't,
but it's got to be at least a threat. It
can't be a I'll put my pass rusher over there
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and it's they can't block anybody or in the past
catching it's okay. If I'm going to play off this
tight end, he's going to catch twelve balls in the game.
And I don't think right now opposing teams fear that position.
With the Texans, it'd be nice if they did. And
there's a lot of teams that we may be saying
the same thing about. But you brought Schultzen here to
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be more productive, and he absolutely has to be because
on an offensive line, the one thing I do know,
you can block four of them or five of them.
If there's one that you don't block, inevitably that's the
guy that's going to get you. So I can as
a defensive tackle, I can miss a tackle, but my
linebackers two yards later there to clean up. As an
offensive lineman, if I'm not getting help from a back
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and I'm opposite side of that, and it's me and
my guy, and my guy beats me and my other
four guys protect or five guys in the tight end
misses a linebacker block because he can't handle it, or
a tackle at the line of scrimmage, you got to
everybody's got to do their job. That's the one position
where five guys got to play like one and even
a six. Now, obviously, if you had a tight end
who's in a blocking situation or he's a out and
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you got to block a linebacker a strong safety from
the a tight end slot, position, so to me removed.
So it's this for them to get even better. The
tight end position has to be more productive with their
hand in the dirt and running routes.
Speaker 6 (02:13:15):
Well in one of those backs that can help out.
Nick Chubb mentioned, you know the Texans signing him to
a one year deal, and I mean it's very much
a hey, here's an opportunity, make the most of it.
But I think the other part of it too, Sean
is I mean, he's twenty nine years old, realizes there's
not much football left in front of him. This is
a team that he looks at and says, I could
go there, be able to help this team out improve
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their running game by taking some carries off of Joe
Milton or Joe Mixon's plate, and to be able to
again give myself a chance to continue my career, even
if it's not here in Houston going forward, and even.
Speaker 1 (02:13:51):
With competition pushing Mixon to even be better than he
already is. There's no doubt abou him to think what
you just said. That isn't it amazing? You just said
I'm and there's not much football left the league about
didn't think about that? You're twenty nine and like thirty
years old becomes the cut of it. Is a thirty
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year old who doesn't have a one hundred yard rushing game.
The first time he carries it posts thirty, we think
he's done. It's crazy how that is, But you're right.
At twenty nine, this is the prime of their career.
This is trying to get one good season to milk
another two or three year deal that gives you, you know,
postseason secure, post career security. So in the next two
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or three years, this is Chubbs go. And this is
a good guy to get because right now he takes
a lot of pressure off your play action game and
puts pressure on defense and takes them. Lets Joe have
a little bit of leeway, and you don't worry when
he goes to the bench that there's not a veteran
that can come in there and tote the ball for
him or pick up in the blitz, pick up or
anything else, or won't be a pro. Nick Chubb's a pro.
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This is a good GIT. I'm just telling you, I
think it's a very underrated git, especially now this close
to training camp and a healthy Nicheub that's a strong
monster and a football plan. Jesse that we'll get after it, yeap.
Speaker 6 (02:15:07):
Hopefully he is able to reach that goal this year
in at twenty twenty five with the Texans. Let's get
into the Astros again because this has been a strength
for the team, and is this guy making it even stronger.
Speaker 5 (02:15:20):
We'll talk about it right here.
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On Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (02:17:39):
The astros sean starting up the series, and I mentioned
Lance mccullors junior getting the start and mentioned how good
he's been his last couple of times out. You'd love
to make it three straight starts of at least a
quality outing where he's done that the last two times
the Athletics six innings, struck out twelve in that start.
Then he was able to get the win against the
(02:18:00):
Pittsburgh Pirates again six innings, no urn runs, only two
hits and he strikes out seven.
Speaker 1 (02:18:07):
Let's say he has a No.
Speaker 11 (02:18:08):
No.
Speaker 1 (02:18:09):
Seven and two thirds ninety five pitches. Let's go.
Speaker 5 (02:18:16):
I'll take that deal right.
Speaker 1 (02:18:17):
Now, No No through the eighth ninety nine pitches. You're
running him out there in the night. You're up three
to nothing.
Speaker 6 (02:18:25):
He would definitely want to you're up three to nothing,
I would think that probably Joe ninety nine pitches, I
think that probably he'd say, let's not chance it, especially
with the way that Lance has been throughout his career
with workload.
Speaker 1 (02:18:40):
I'm pitching him, he walks the first guy and gets
a base, Yet I pulled him out. I gotta give
him a chance. I know people say, well, he's been hurt.
I hear it all the time. Well, I mean, and
you're right that part of it, Well, the history the
last two years. Then I say to myself, is ten
extra pitches, twelve more pitches going to be the difference
in if that's our mentality for me? I did. I
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been talking to some old school guys in the past
that have pitched in Major League Baseball or played It
would be very hard. It'd be very hard for me
to take away that opportunity three to nothing. It would
almost matter of fact, I'm boosting his confidence, saying, dude,
this comeback years has been sensational. Twelve strikeouts, seven strikeouts.
(02:19:26):
Now for your third one, I really got a chance
at a no. Ninety nine pitches and just let him
know we get a runner on base, from a walk
or a base that I'm pulling out, or we have
long at bats and you know then I gotta get
you out. But I'm going to give a chance to
establish he can go out there and get three clickouts.
I'm gonna I'm going to make the decision that twelve
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extra pitches isn't going to be the difference in his
career or not. I'm going to believe he can handle it.
I'm running him out there now. This is just for
fun and hyperbole. I don't know if we're going to
get to that, but when that decision comes, I would
have to leave him in.
Speaker 2 (02:20:01):
I would well.
Speaker 6 (02:20:02):
In the last few times that McCullers has been out,
the walks have gone down to He did have three
in his starts against the Mariners, where he went four
in a third, but only one walk given up against
the A's and only one against the Pirates. He did
hit a batter in that Pirates outing, but still again
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seven strikeouts in that win, which was his fiftieth of
his career too, So hoping to be able to get
win number fifty one tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:20:31):
Yeah, and I think you're probably right. I think they
probably would pull him out ninety seven to ninety eight
pitches eighth inning, no hitter, Probably I think i'd have
to let him go one aning, but you're you're probably right,
but I'm greedy. I'd want him to go get the
no no. I'd want to see what he did with
the first hitter. If he looks smooth, I'd let him
finish it. I've always said his ten pitch is really
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going to be the difference in whether he's hurting the
next start. Maybe it is that I probably here on
the side of aggressiveness with it, just because I think
it would make it confidence wise in show believability. With
this case in particular, I would leave him in.
Speaker 5 (02:21:05):
Well, just he goes.
Speaker 1 (02:21:05):
He's got the ability to dan to know no. People
for sure may no no you with three walks or
full but he's got enough stuff that even this quickly
in a comeback, he gets enough swing in this he
could induce a problem like that. Especially I guess the
team you're supposed to beat, even though they're playing decent.
I would love to see it. I'd love to see that.
I'd love to see us talk about that tomorrow. That'd
be awesome.
Speaker 5 (02:21:26):
Well, and it's funny too.
Speaker 6 (02:21:27):
You bring up that scenario, because the same thing kind
of happened with Fromber against Gosh, would they beat two
to one? Oh, it was the race that night where
he had gone the complete game, he'd pitched all nine
innings in the following day because he was at like
what eighty three pitches, I mean, he was well south
of one hundred. And we had asked Joe Hey that
tenth inning, would you have run Fromber back out there?
(02:21:49):
And he, unfazed, just said no, that would have been Hater.
And his reasoning was sound for that one because of
the situation. He goes, I wouldn't want to put Fromber
out there with the runner on set ends, and he's
not necessarily used to that, where Hater has pitched in
that situation numerous times.
Speaker 1 (02:22:05):
I'll go with him. That makes sense, well, complete sense. Well, now,
the only the only you know, the counter to that
would be eighty three pitches. Right, You say, okay, let's
let's let's see it. But he's exactly right. You're going
on there. You've inherited. It's just a different optic for you.
It's not a different optic for Hater. It's not a
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different optic for somebody in the bullpen. They're used to
pitching out of that stretch with the guy on before
you've even pitched anybody in extra nings. That's they get it.
But that part I do get, although it would still
be tempting. The situation would be to now go through
nine innings and he gets and he's got a no
hitter and it's tied zero zero, or you know, whatever
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whatever reason ye have. Then with the colors, then you'd
have to say, Okay, now we've got past the threshold
of one hundred pitches. He did his gig. We got
to get him out. You can only go so much.
But I have always aired on the side of airing
for the player as opposed to against him when it
comes to a situation, because those don't present themselves very often.
And I know the answers well, at the expense of
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a career and a and winning a World Series, do
you do you really do that this early in the season.
But no hitters matter to players, they just do. They matter,
and maybe not more than a championship, although I'm sure
there are some athletes that an m v P or
a Cy Young or a you know, an m VP
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in football matters more than a Championship ring. I didn't
Cam Newton say he'd rather win an m v P
than the Super Bowl. I believe he did this past year.
I think he said he would rather win an m
VP than a super Bowl. And to me that that
that's blasphemous. It just it just is. So I think
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it's a I don't know, m VP means you did it.
But this is a team game, not golf for tennis.
I can't fathom you asked me if i'd love to
do both. Maybe if you win a super Bowl and
you're the quarterback, that you were the MVP because your team,
you know, you played good all year to get your
team there. But you give me the choice, you'd keep
the MVP. I want the ring, especially if I'm the starter.
I want that. I want the ring, no doubt. I
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think that was a part of the team. Yeah, I agree,
But in this case, the no hitter I would air
because you don't know how many time it's going to
pass away again. Now one hundred and thirty pitches, he's laboring.
Of course, there's common sense, but to me, if a
guy's going good and he's ninety two pitches and going
into the ninth inny coming off an injury, well sewn,
Do you want to risk it? I just go back again.
Would ten extra throws in my arm have forced rotator
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cuff surgery if I'd had to throw in fifteen extra
balls at the end of a football game. The answer
to that is absolutely not laboring. Maybe it's like, dude,
your mechanics are changing. Now you drop out of slot.
Now the mechanics are different, so the arm angle is different.
Now you're putting yourself in an injury situation. But from
optics and things look good in velocity, I'm not going
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to judge it on well, he's a ninety four pitches.
The threshold to me is where's the velocity is he
spot in his pitches? And how does he feel? And
I'm always going to err on the side of giving
the player the chance to achieve something that most don't
get a chance to achieve, as long as it's not
at the expense of his arm falling off like an
idiot would or costing my team for selfish reasons that
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the player becomes bigger than the team. But if it's
that situation, and I'm gonna look in his eyes and
if I can see and the optics tell me he's
going good. I have a problem with him pushing that
threshold and trying to get the no hitter because he'll
never forget it, and they'll also never forget the trust
he showed in him, short of you walk a guy,
or you've walked four guys and you lead off, walk
in the eighth inning, and let you get through the
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eighth inning. But I'm not running back out there in
the ninth no hitter or not if you've got one
hundred and eight pitches and we started to see velocity
fall off and your ability to spot pitch has become
a problem, but I'd love to see it. I'd love
to have this argument tomorrow if it happened. Should he
or shouldn't you have right? I would love I would
love to have that conversation.
Speaker 6 (02:25:56):
Well, hopefully we can't have that conversation tomorrow starting at
six am, But anyway, it is a Thursday, and that
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Speaker 6 (02:28:04):
The seven ninety listener line here in the nine o'clock
hour is presented by one eight hundred car cap. We
didn't do all thirteen games, but it was what is
acceptable for you at the end of these thirteen games,
where ten of them are going to be against teams
that are under five hundred.
Speaker 5 (02:28:19):
Currently.
Speaker 6 (02:28:20):
We'll see if that remains the case with the Angels.
But I mean, is this same, you know, stretch of
games where it is a softer part of your schedule.
You look at it and sean throughout eight and five.
I said, seven and six is fine with me. Yeah,
I mean you got to take care of business. I mean,
weird things happen on those West Coast games. By the way,
I stayed up and watched for some reason, what was
(02:28:40):
last night Monday? On a Monday night on FS one
at midnight, I was watching or Diamondbacks Mariners, and the
the Diamondbacks had I think it was a four to
nothing lead or four to the ninth, Yes, and then
give up a bomb and it's like what in that
world is happening? And they finally get it done in extras.
So that was nice to get the lead back to
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three in the division. But you know, again, weird things
happen when you go on on the road out in
those West Coast games.
Speaker 14 (02:29:08):
You realize every game next week is a late night game,
Like it's either an eight thirty eight first pitch or
a nine oh five first pitch. So there's gonna be
some late nights next week for the Astis. But look,
you come home. You start today with Chicago White Sox.
I mean two out of three at minimum. I'm just
telling you the White Sox stink. You ought to sweep them.
The Twins after this, you know, are kind of they're
(02:29:31):
like the Guardians. They're right there nipping at your heels.
So in terms of American League standing, so yeah, you
want to You played so well at home. You just
had a nice little road trip where you took two
out of three or two out of three. So I
expect them to, you know, four and two on this
home stand and go go take care of business against
the low Liais and Angels.
Speaker 1 (02:29:51):
So to go seven and six or sub five hundred
on this trip, Gordy, I don't want to unacceptable, maybe
the wrong phrase to use, but in order to be
a championship caliber team, and you have to burdy these holes. Correct,
So eight wins, nine wins you get in two of
these series at home, Oakland, you should handle. I mean,
(02:30:12):
this really looks like one of those where Dana Brown
who talks about we can get when we get going,
we'll hitting on all cylinders. This is the chance to
get on all cylinders, even though you don't have your
full lineup out there, and go win nine or ten
of these and extend this lead heading into middle of gym.
Speaker 14 (02:30:28):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, absolutely have too, searn, because I've
talked about this for weeks. That two week stretch you
have right before the All Star Break is pretty brutal.
I mean, you get three against the Felies here at home,
who have really good pitching, and that offense isn't very
bad either. Then get three against the Cubs, who've been
such an improved team this year with Kyle Tucker there.
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Then you go up to Colorado for three. Now that's
an easy one, right, I mean, ball should be flying
out of the ballpark. I hope Jordan Alvarez is back
for that trip because he'll be hitting bomb after bomb.
But then you got to go to Dodger Stadium July
fourth weekend, play three against them, last I check they
don't suck, and then you come home for three against
Cleveland and three against the Rangers. Again, Rangers have kind
(02:31:10):
of fallen off here a little bit, but still have
great pitching and they're gonna give you everything they got.
And Cleveland right, there is neck and neck with you
battling for you know, seating in the in the American League.
So I'm with you, Sean, those last two weeks right
before the All Star break are going to be tough.
Rack up the wins now while you can. And yeah,
if you get to that Philly series and you got
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a five, six game lead on Seattle, heck you lose
to our three to Philly, it's no sweat. It's like,
all right, fine, at least we built up that separation.
Speaker 1 (02:31:39):
Right, you'd sure hake to go, you know, six and
seven on this road trip and get to that and
where you're having a rough time and you know, they
get to you and before you know it, you go
into the All Star break and you're down three games
in the division. Yeah, these are the ones that give
you a four stroke lead in a tournament that makes
everybody chase.
Speaker 6 (02:31:56):
And I prefer those. That's all my point is for sure.
And you know we've been talking a lot today about
Lance mccullor's junior. He's gonna make the start tonight, and
what you've been able to get the past couple of
times out, I mean, is it getting to the point
where if he has another one of those tonight that
this is the expectation for him going forward.
Speaker 1 (02:32:13):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (02:32:14):
I mean, look, don't don't get me wrong.
Speaker 14 (02:32:17):
I mean the two outstanding performances were against the Pirates
and the A's, two of the worst offenses in the country.
But to me, you know, I just he's been so
much better, you know, statistically speaking, and he's starting to
get that pitch count up. You know, that was ninety
six pitches last time out at one oh two. The
time before that against Oakland, six innings in both of
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his last starts. This is the real lance McCullers. And
thank god he's looked like this because you know, he's
been asked to be your number three guy right now
and you're getting by, you're making new with your Colton Gordon's,
your Brandon Walters and you're Ryan Gusto's. But to me,
mccullar's has to be on. He's your three. You know
what you're getting from from Burn Hudder Brown at the
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front end. But yeah, mccullor's has to be the guy.
And so tonight, you know, we'll be interesting that they
gave him an extra day's rest, didn't pitch him on
Sunday to kind of you know, just make sure he's
feeling good and all that, and you're pitching against the
White Sox I mentioned, you know, he did it against
Oakland and Pittsburgh too. The worst offenses. Chicago is one
of the worst offenses. To go take care of business tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:33:21):
Hey, Gordy, what did you expect in true just your
personal feelings, What did you expect you were going to
get from McCullers this year, before all the before, before
he got his first start, Did you think he'd be
sitting here saying this.
Speaker 14 (02:33:32):
No, No, I honestly did not think this. I mean,
you know, the look the era at four forty four
is really ballooned up from that one red start. You
take that red start out. I mean, he's got an
a race up three. I mean he's been he's been
outstanding in all these other games, and I thought I
thought you'd get some ups and downs, you know, five innings.
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I didn't think he'd be worked up this quick. In
other words, going six innings in his last two starts.
I didn't think he'd be here now. So you know,
he's got the swing and the miss stuff. The strikeout
totals are up there at the twelve against Oakland, two
starts to go. Yeah, he's to me, he's ahead of schedule.
This is better than we thought. Although on the flip side, Sean,
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I thought we'd be talking about mccullor's being the four
or the five, right, Like I thought we'd have a
healthy Spencer Raghetti and we'd have a healthy Hayden Wsnsky
and Runnel Bloco. So you know, I thought that it
was gonna be one of those things. Okay, well, maybe
he'll put tune, maybe we'll go six man rotation. But
obviously injuries happen and he finds himself as the number
three starter now, so good on him for getting himself right.
Speaker 1 (02:34:37):
He's been outstanding.
Speaker 6 (02:34:38):
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tonight first time all season long. And I mean, Gordy,
I gotta be honest with you, it's a Tuesday Nights
dollar dog night. I'm on the fence. I mean, I
know that you know Crawford Bock is there, but I mean,
you know it convinced me a little bit here.
Speaker 14 (02:34:57):
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get you dollar hot dogs and I'll save you a
couple bucks more money to spend on the Crawford back
over there Carbock Brewing. It's all over the ballpark, you
know when you see it the Tequilo Center, ice stripes
on the can. I love it when you get it
in the draft. But of course the big tall cans
can't go wrong with those. They can last you a
couple innings sitting there watching the Astro. So grab yourself
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an ice cold Crawford bogber right here in Houston, Texas
at Carbock Brewing, and you know whatever you're chowing down
on nachos, hot dogs, chicken fingers, it goes perfectly with
anything you're having there at the ballpark, and goes especially
better when the Astros win. So grab you an ice
cold Crawford bought tonight at dyik And Park.
Speaker 5 (02:35:35):
Yeah, and I'm convinced. Now I'm back in Sean. I'm
good to go.
Speaker 6 (02:35:39):
Not too many though, I mean that early wake up
it definitely puts the snag on thing. But anyway, appreciate it, Gordy.
Always great to be able to catch up with you,
and hopefully, yes, the Astros can be able to take
advantage of this home stand.
Speaker 5 (02:35:53):
One guy that you'd love.
Speaker 6 (02:35:54):
To see be able to take advantage of this home stand.
He's had some good things happened to him, but also
not so many things. We'll talk about him here as
we continue on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:36:07):
We want to wait.
Speaker 2 (02:36:08):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (02:36:11):
I was thought of as being a Taylor Scott hater
and I said, no, no, no, you're looking at him.
Speaker 1 (02:36:16):
Remember any time you said you hated him? Remember that
time that never came out of my mouth?
Speaker 5 (02:36:20):
Sir, wasn't you no erroneous? Erroneous on all accounts?
Speaker 1 (02:36:24):
I just your erroneous zone. I could have swore Tripoli
and I talked about it. We were after one show.
We were like flabbergasted. Yeah, and all the callers it
was like, really weird you like that. I just hate
Taylor Scott as a picture, as a human being. As
I remember, remember when you said that you hated where
he was from. I mean, although you hated his birthday
(02:36:45):
all of that, so it was just kind of weird Dan,
how you just hated him that day?
Speaker 8 (02:36:49):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:36:49):
I mean, have you been for forgiveness or what I mean,
you know the social media in the fan they're always right.
I mean, you know, nobody misconstrueded. I remember the word hate,
I hate Taylor Scott coming at you. I mean, don't
you remember that Triple League.
Speaker 6 (02:37:02):
I didn't even go for the mustache. I mean, Terrell
Owens in this situation right here, Yeah, you guy. You
guys are Tony Romo, Jason Whitten and Jason Garrett. You know,
holding no secret meetings.
Speaker 5 (02:37:13):
That's what this is.
Speaker 1 (02:37:15):
Yeah, I mean, it wasn't. SEQ was just talking about
and I remember a couple of people in the in
the building, a couple of salespeeks, and why does Dan
hate Taylor Scott? It was so weird. I didn't I
mean I didn't. I was like, I don't know. And
you guys heard it too. It was kind of weird, subliminal,
the old Yeah, it was weird.
Speaker 5 (02:37:33):
The old, the old side mouth. Hey, Sean, well, what's
what's the deal with Dan?
Speaker 1 (02:37:37):
Like you know, well they asked the deal, what they
asked with the deal, and they said, well, Dan's great,
but he hates Taylor Scott. It is weird. Yeah, I
don't know. Hey, who's counting though, who's keeping score well,
I mean.
Speaker 6 (02:37:47):
Well, I mean, at least you know the stats are
the ones that are counting. Because you've got Christian Walker
hitting two o seven with the six nineteen o ps.
Speaker 5 (02:37:56):
He does have eight homers. That's nice, twenty nine runs
batted in.
Speaker 6 (02:37:59):
Now you'd like for that to go up a little
bit more, But I have a hunch because he has
hit well at diyk in Park this year, that'd be nice.
And the average, like I said, sitting at two oh seven,
I'm gonna go on a limb right here, Sean, He's
gonna go on such a heater here that that average
bumps up to two twenty three at the end of
this Homestand I'll buy that.
Speaker 1 (02:38:22):
So that'll mean that you don't because I remember when
you said you hated him too, So will that help
you from hating him if he has a good Homestand
I mean, excuse me, I remember when you said his
name's Christian Walker, but does he have any religion in
his vat? Remember when you said that it was really weird.
Speaker 5 (02:38:37):
I wish, I wish I couldn't be enough to come
up with that line. Yeah, because that actually is a
pretty good one.
Speaker 1 (02:38:42):
But yeah, what Yeah, during a break one day, you
ran that you had to run out of the restroom
or get a cup of coffee. I can't remember. In
Triple God Mary, he said, man Seawan is okay? I said,
what what do you mean? He said, does he really
hate Christian Walker that much? I thought it was only
Taylor Scott, So no, I think he really likes Christian Walker.
(02:39:02):
Dan just Hia has high expectations of him. But I know,
I know when you heard the word hate, he didn't
really mean it. It was just kind of a passing thing.
So hopefully we'll get some big production out of Christian
Walker so you can get back to loving him Dan,
because we don't want we don't want any hatreds.
Speaker 5 (02:39:18):
I just want to stay off the war path.
Speaker 6 (02:39:20):
That's that's how it is, Okay, Like I just I
don't want to be making my rounds and it's you know, oh,
here comes Dan again. Like you know, you just you
don't want to be known as the angry guy around
the office, and that's.
Speaker 1 (02:39:30):
Here comes the guy. Yeah, here comes the guy who
hates jose Al Tovey.
Speaker 5 (02:39:34):
Yeah, that one, that one won't happen.
Speaker 6 (02:39:37):
Like I always love, you know, the people he has
jose Al Tuove ever thought of doing this. I shut
that down every single time. I'm like, hey, look, jose
al Tuove has over two thousand hits and has gotten
more clutch hits than we can ever you know, think
of in an astros Uni. The last thing I'm ever
going to do is try to analyze analyze how.
Speaker 1 (02:39:59):
Jose L two V has his plate approach. It's worked out, well, yeah,
it fine. It finds a way to work itself back
into a hot streak. It usually does, right, for sure.
You have no hate for Taylor Scott or Chris Walk.
Speaker 8 (02:40:11):
You.
Speaker 1 (02:40:11):
I have expectations so today, and I would like to
see Christian watch Walker reach those this weekend with not
only the average but the power back. If you gave
me one of the two the slugging, hell, I'll take.
I'll take, you know, a hit or two a game.
But you know, when we come out of this, we're
in thirteen games. He's hit four home runs, that'd be great.
I'd take that with you. But give me give me
(02:40:32):
eight nine wins in these next thirteen games, and I'll
consider that big heading Towards the end of July. It
definitely should, I say, into June.
Speaker 6 (02:40:41):
It definitely would be nice. It'd also be nice to
be able to give Lance mccullors junior some run supports.
And I've won to one on the season with a
four point four to four e RA, so hopefully the
Astros can make them two and one at the end
of this and with the win, I like it, I
like it, We'll.
Speaker 1 (02:40:58):
Go with it.
Speaker 6 (02:40:58):
Right here Astros and White Sox tonight starting up a series.
He's Shawan Salisbury Triple, Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews with no
hate in his heart right here on the Seawn Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety, The Matt Thomas Show with Ross
coming up next, right here on your home of the
Astros and the Rocket.
Speaker 5 (02:41:16):
Sports Talk seven ninety. We will talk to you in
twenty hours
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