Astros Tie Series Against Blue Jays 1-1, Texans Practice Continues, TNF Preview, Chuck Edel's Weekly Segment

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salisbury Salisbury Hot. Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
To usc Tropes longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthewscus. This is the Sean Salisbury show. And DS
hits it well deep down the right field line. Lucas
on the run, still going back and that ball is
off the wall, scoring as Sanchez. DS lies in the
second base with an RBI double, one nothing. Astros Geyner

(00:37):
with his six run batted in in his last four games,
one one, and that is drill date to left field
back is.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Low, Perfido, kiss it goodbye. End of the Blue Jays bullpen.
Correa homers for a second straight day, the two hundredth
home run of Carlos Correa's career, and the Astros go
up two to.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Nothing, two outs of full count.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
The Pitchta Kerk and it's a chopper backhanded by Payna
at short stop, long throw, and it's dug out by
Kristin Walker at first base, and it's another one, two
three for Jason Alexander on the long throw from Paena
in the outfield turf.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
A one to one, and that is hammer day till
I fail. You can't kiss that one goodbye. Over the
Blue Jays bullpen yiner Ds puts the Astros up three
to two with.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
This nineteenth of the year two two strike three call
at the knees.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
And fat is the ballgame, yiner das Homer's in the
top of the ninth, and the Astros defeat the Toronto
Blue Jays three to two to end a two game skid,
three game series even at a game apiece.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh man, much better, huh.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
We like that so much more, And with that we
say away we go in good morning here on the
Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety kbm E
Houston and iHeartRadio station. As the Astros able to pull
it off last night with a three to two win
in Toronto, didn't need extras this time, jiner Diaz, thank

(02:16):
you very much, appreciate your efforts. Jason Alexander even more,
thank you very much. Great stuff out of him as
he goes a season high seven innings.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Love to see that out of him.

Speaker 6 (02:28):
And I mean, you take the good with the bad
and the bad in this one too. Is the Astros
obviously runners in scoring position, Yeah, still a little bit
of an issue as they end up stranding a lot
of runners again and they go one for eight with
runners in scoring position, but all is well, that ends well,
And that's a good thing too, because well, the Mariners

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and Rangers they continue to do the not losing thing.
I mean, what if I said to about the Mariners
they don't lose at home, and then the Rangers just
continue right now to just not lose whatsoever as they
sweep the Brewers out of town. So Rangers playing good baseball,
but I mean the Astros just as a whole. Last

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night you get some key production out of guys that
you really needed out of.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I mean Jiner Diaz.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
We'll talk about him as the show goes along, but
it's great to see him. Seems like the back end
of the road or the back end of the batting
orders seems to be the spot that Jiner loves the
most and he has really been able to thrive since
moving back there. But last night also a night off
for Jose Altuve by necessity, I think we can probably

(03:40):
agree on that. As Ramonirius gets the started second base,
but then al Tuove able to come in late in
the game and pinch hit, he strikes out. I mean
his at bat kind of looks like the way that
most of his at bats have looked lately, and I
think that was kind of the goal was to get
him off his feet last night. Maybe a mental he
set as you heard Dana Brown mentioned yesterday as a

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possibility with Sean when he was on with them for
his weekly visits.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
And I mean doesn't.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
Necessarily work out that way for the bat that he had,
but I mean Sean just last night for the Astros.
You know, as we've kind of said all along, the pitching,
yeah it's there, but the hitting well continues to be
a little bit of an issue. But at least the
first part what was able to carry them through last night.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, but the one thing, even though they didn't rake
last night, you've been begging to have them hit at
the right time, and Heerdeaz did late game, late inning
win to get the big home run THENTO abrayd you
to close it out after going with thirty pitches the
day before, and Dana Brown even had mentioned on Wednesday

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that he didn't know if a braid he was even
going to be available. Well he was, and he took
care of his business and it's a huge win. Man.
So sometimes and I don't think you're going to get
a lot of both this year, where it's or the
trifecta of great pitching, great hitting, and clutch hitting at once.
That has not been the norm for them this year.
But like I said, if they lose last night and

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get fifteen hits, well they got eleven the night before
I got beat. So I'll take a game in which
they get a clutch hit from a guy who's had
an up and down season at the plate and win
a game late, and that goes a long way. Take
them how you and get them, especially now when you're inside,
you know you're in the teens. You have to and
momentum be damned, but confidence. If they get that back,

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it could be a different story down as we roll
down the last fifteen or sixteen seventeen games and head
into the playoffs. But it was the timing of the
hit that mattered more to me than the number of
the hits. Now, obviously, offense is going to have to
increase because you can't keep beating in these type of
games and expect to win most of them.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
Now, but I mean, I am going to push back
on that a little bit because that is what postseason based.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
It's games like this. I didn't say postseason. I said,
if you hit like this and you're counting on pitching
all tea, you're also facing better pitching in the postseason.
That's sure you don't go five deep. So I didn't
say playoffs. I said in the last fifteen sixteen seventeen games,
you'll take these wins. Three to two is exactly what
I said, late wins. More. Now, you can have a
pretty loss, but it's still a loss. Nobod's gonna look

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back and say, man, we lost nine to eight, but
boy we exploded. But they will remember three to two
and a break. You come in after pitching the day before,
and the guy that I mean has been in your
crawl most of the year, Yiner Dias coming up with
a big hit late in the game. So yeah, playoff
baseball is exactly like that. There's one small problem. You
got to sustain it to get to the playoffs first.

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And with this, they're in position, but you're not. I
assure you, somebody's gonna score more than three or four
runs against them as we rolled down and Toronto may today,
and they may get it from somebody else or Texas
or Seattle. So the hitting is going to have to improve.
But if you tell me they're going to win three
to two games fourteen out of the next seventeen, I'll
take it all day long.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
Even if there's five hits in a game. No, I
mean especially too. I mean you mentioned the result there
if it's a w for the Shrows. Well, I mean,
like I've said numerous times, there's no there's no college
football playoff committee here.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
You don't.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
You don't have to impress anybody with a style of win.
It's just did you win and were you able to
get into the postseason. That's the whole thing. We'll get
to a break you in just a second, because I mean,
just what a bounce back performance by him.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
But the confidence part of it, I mean.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
I've got to believe that clubhouse was pretty fired up
after this one, because Sean, these are games they've been
losing lately, and last night they found a way to win.
So you almost wondered, is it unlocked something mentally with
this team.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I don't know. I mean, I yeah, it was a
big win, and it was the timing of the win
that I think. You know, listen, I think you gained
more at least the teams I've been on scraping out
a win in a fourth quarter than you do when
you beat somebody forty one to seven. It's like, Okay,
aren't the norm. So you take them and you love them,

(08:02):
and they're more relaxing on you. But you got to
get back into because most in football, or within a
touchdown in baseball, it's within a couple of runs. So
I think you can carry something like this and it
could kick in, say okay, we run at the right time.
Now they've done that. Especially in the season, they were
winning a lot of run run games against good teams.
They were they were as a matter of fact, for
the first what fifty sixty games or seventy games, they

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were near the top of the league and being able
to stave off to when they got a lead, they
held it and were able to keep it and win.
And that'll be as you get to the playoffs. You're
going to win three, two, five, four, two to one,
or lose, and that's usually what it is because of
the pitching you face. But they how they want it.
Will it carry over? I don't know, because every time
they get a win like this, or they can win

(08:46):
a game or two in a row. We asked the
same thing. Oh is this the thing that's going to
kickstart them? And then for three straight games they'll be
in one run games and lose two of them and
win one. So I really don't know. I don't know
what's going to kick start the bats, because as we see,
momentum gets stopped when a good pitcher goes out there
after you win, this one goes out there and shuts
you down. Well, then momentum was one game, So I

(09:08):
don't know how they're going to respond. I know this though,
they got to be able to feel better going to
the ballpark today winning three to two than they do
when they lose a game or they don't hit, or
they get you know, three hits and no runs and
make an air and have a couple of bad base
running airs or performances should I say on the offensive side.
But the timing of the win last night was more
important than score nine runs and winning that way. I

(09:30):
guarantee you they win nine to one. It's like, okay,
Toronto's now. You're not going to beat Toronto nine to
one very often. So you just say it was our
night and it wasn't theirs, which everybody has. But when
you have to scrape out a win like this and
then close it out. I think those are bigger, And
I know it's cheesy and sounds cliche, but those are
bigger character wins. I know, well, at least in my
life they have been. I learned far more from those

(09:51):
than I do. When you kick somebody's ass and you're
staring into the stands at halftime because you know this
game's over, you don't learn anything from it. So and
they've had a lot to learn this year, to overcome
a lot, but nobody feels sorry for him, and a
win like that is huge for them. And like I said,
no matter what happens tonight, they're still gonna have to
face the guys that are chasing them and stave them

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off one way or the other. And both of those teams,
and the Rangers and Seattle can pitch and can also
hit when it's right. But that's been the story of
this division and been the story of this team all year.
What night are they going to show up and get
all three phases taken care of? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (10:26):
And we mentioned Brian a Bray, you where he's able
to bounce right back and get a three up, three
down ninth, and you see that. And you know, I've
made the example before of the movie Bad Boys, remember
with you know Mike Lowry getting on Marcus. You know
Martin Lawrence's character for driving, and finally he drives aggressively
at the end of the movie and he yells, from
now on, that's how you drive, well, Brian and Bray,

(10:47):
you your Marcus in this scenario.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
From now on, that's how you close. Yeah, it was
a pretty impressive.

Speaker 7 (10:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I guess the fact that they had the faith to
go out there and run him out there again. I
like it. I mean, is okay? I mean a guy
who's that dude's a monster anyway. Hell, the ball that
was hit back at him to made what the second
out of the ninth inning, It's I like taking a
pellet gun to a horse. I mean, it bounced right off.

(11:14):
He popped up and then goes and tells him, puts
a smile on his face and go get the final
out as well. So he was impressive, and I'm looking
for that in my closers, one of them. And can
you go another day? You damn right, I can go
another day? And he did so. Now I doubt that
he's going to be available tonight, although he made pretty
short work. It didn't take a thirty pitch inning to
get out of this one. But he may not be.

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But I like the fact that Listen meant the mentality
of the closure's got to be you're willing to go
five days in a row if that's what it takes.
Although that's not realistic and doesn't happen, but if you
have that, then things will change. And for a guy
like that, that that you know, Endo the inning, somebody
you know, staring at the third strike and pumping it
up there, it looked really good and it also gives

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this team, I think a little more faith to know
that you can count on him in the ninth Inny. No,
it is good to know that.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
And I mean especially to with the bullpen without Hater,
without Susa, even Ort too, I mean, a guy that
you'd counted on later on the season. It's nice to
see that you have Brian a Bray you put together
that performance last night. Nice to see the Astros be
able to win. But as I mentioned at the beginning
of the segment, the only problem is well, the Mariners
and Rangers continue to not lose, so the Astros need

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to continue to try to handle their business on their
own in we'll handle business here on the Sean Salisbury
Show with you involved. That's Sebon one three two and
two five seven ninety against Someone three two one two
five seven ninety. As we mentioned with Joe Aspata and
you know you really could say he let him hang
last night. We'll discuss we'll talk about it right here.

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It does a Sean Salisbury Show on a Thursday, Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Let's go. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (12:58):
Texan's gonna get back on the practice field this afternoon
and get ready for Monday night against the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers over at NRG Stadium.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
But we're talking astros right now.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
If you want to join us Someone three two one
two five seven ninety and Sean last night, I mean
we talked about a little bit at the end of
the first segment of Brian a Bray you in the decision,
and I think probably most of us, you know, you
see even during the commercial break if you're watching on
TV or you're listening to Robert and Steve on the radio,
which that's the preferred method we have, but that you

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see Brian a Bray, you coming in in the ninth
inning and you're probably like, oh, man, we just dow
him thirty pitches yesterday.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
It didn't go well.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
And it's a one run lead, so if he walks
somebody and gets them on base, you immediately have to
go ahead run at the plate. But Brian Abray, you
quickly quelling any worry that people would have of him
getting back out there. And I say, for Joe Aspada,
kudos man, because you really put yourself out there with
that decision to throw him in this game, and it

(14:00):
really worked out. I mean, I know a lot of
times I reel against don't focus on the result, but
I think the result plays into this.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, I think at this stage of the game the
result is. I know, the journey's all fun and it's
a you know, roses and birds singing around our head.
The truth of the matter is it's never like that,
and I got to focus on the result. And I
think they do too. I think it's the opposite.

Speaker 7 (14:24):
Now.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I don't think that am man. It looked good, but
I mean we're getting back first month of the season,
six weeks, guys are fitting in Cam Smith's young all that.
For me, we're past the don't focus on the result.
If you don't focus on the result, I know that.
I know what you mean, because focus on the result.
It's hard to take care of the process if you're

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focused on the result. But I think you do have
to focus and it's not on the result, it's how
to get to it the right way. And last night
they did. And it did take guts for you know,
a spot at a running back out there because you're
throwing yourself out to Christmas. Why you do in two
days in a row. That's not I mean, you know
what it is. And I'm sure people had that bitch
when when a braid you took them out. But he

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did take care of his business. And it's hard to
speak out of both sides of your mouth and you say, well, man,
you know the ball ain't heavy, let's go do it,
And then you're mad when a guy goes back out
there back to back days and he's your horse as
a closer. That's the way it's supposed to be. So
hard to get both or sit on both sides of
the fence. The bottom line, as you went with you
felt as the best to close it out, and you
felt and I'm sure he checked with a brain and

(15:29):
brace said I'm good man, let's do it. But he
would have faced less criticism and a loss if a
braid you didn't close that game out, as opposed if
he did so, the criticism was on the line more
against him, you know, the criticism had it not worked out,
then compliment him for it working out, because that's just
the nature of society. But it did take guts because
it would have been very easy to build an excuse

(15:51):
to say, hey, through thirty twenty nine or thirty pitches
day before, of course we can't run him out there.
Even if you'd run Kimberl or somebody else out there
and lost, well, why didn't you put a brak you?
Very few would have it. But if you would have
lost with a bray you everybody would have said you
can't run him out there to in a row. Heck,
even the general manager said he probably not available to us. Well,
Joe thought he was, and it was the wise move,
coupled with a big hit, you know, to get him

(16:14):
the lead and to close it out. Those are you'll
always plan. If they go and win this division and
keep the lead, that'll be one of those victories. Say, man,
give me some key things that happen at the end
in Toronto, a clutch hit in the ninth inning, and
a guy who'd pitched the day before coming and closing
it out when that's not been his normal role. They
that those type of things can sustain you.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
Well, I mean, you know the other thing is, if
nothing else, Joe Aspota is anything but reactionary. I mean,
for some of the criticisms that I've given, we've given,
anybody's given, that's one thing that you can point to
with him and say, eventually that does pay off when
you do have that belief in someone. Because to your point,

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if he is reactionary right there and he sends Craig
Kimberle out there and he gives up to run Homer
games over, then immediately the criticism is, come on, man,
don't be so knee jerk.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I mean, you kidding me.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
You're using Brian A bray you as your closer. And
if he tells you he's ready to go. If we
find that out after the game and he doesn't use him,
well then you've got an even larger problem on your hands.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, I listen, And the last thing a spot has
been has been reactionary. Since he's been the manager, there
is no doubt and just like I always say, you
can't manage based on social media's response and Joe said,
I don't read it, but he says, I have people
that report to me and tell me what's in there,
and so when you don't. But the truth is you'd

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be managing out of both sides of your brain at
the same time if you're worried about what you and
I thought about who he should use. So did take guts.
But the lead of this whole game. While Jiner Diaz
his home run, we also with the way a bray
you comes in and does it again. But lost in

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this is the fact that Jason Alexander's been fantastic. Man.
He goes on a road, he's going to be the
underdog against the three guys you had lined up to
pitch in Toronto, just for the history of it. But
the way he's pitched, he should not be an underdogs.
He's been fantastic seven more innings, helping out a bullpen pitching,

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and it's considering where he was and what we expected
or I didn't know who he was at the beginning
of the year. Did you know no idea who who
he was. And as a matter of fact, he was
the Oh that Jason Alexander's not this Jason Alexander and
you know, oh he's the actor. No, no, no, the
guy who pitches. I didn't know he pitched? Who where?

(18:43):
What's his background? And I'll be damned, the second best
pitcher on your team the last thirty games or more
has been Jason Alexander. It has not been From ber Valdez,
Hunter Brown and Jason Alexander. If this was if this
was a history of over the last three years and
you kept getting this, what you've seen the last forty

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games is the history of the last five years with
like skin in the game, it's Hunter Brown, Jason Alexander,
and from ber Valdez. Now stuff, Well, I'm not talking
about stuff or where they are, what they've met here.
I'm just saying from what you've seen, if you're in
the trust world, the trust world right now says that
Jason Alexander's more trustworthy. That's a fact. Now what does

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that mean? I don't know. The thing with Frombers, I know, well,
which one am I getting? If that guy goes out
there and gives me a stuff and is under controlled,
good free and you get him a two to three
to zero lead, and nothing goes sideways for the first
three or four innings. I'll see in the eighth inning
and he'll have given up, struck out nine and given
up three hits. That'll be it. But get a little
sideways early on. You don't know. I just know this.

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Jason Alexander is a bulldog too, man, and considering like
I said, and I don't care outside of the Brian
mctaggarts of the world, who know everybody everywhere when it
comes to baseball, most even baseball fans, and I would
con or you and I big baseball fans had no
idea you could if you said, Sean, what's his three pitches?
I don't know. I don't know he had three fingers
to pitch with, let alone who he was, you know

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what I mean. I would have had no idea. And
I just it's impressive, man. And he keeps posting. But
it's not just posting and eating innings. It's posting and
giving you a chance to win every single time he
goes out and then loging seven more. This has been
such a blessing for the Astros and going forward, you

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can't take him out of the rotation, regardless of how
healthy you were. If unfortunately with the Garcia thing, but
if Garcia was lights out and Javier was lights out,
you're not moving that guy. You go to take somebody
else and stick him in a bullpen because every second
or third of every fifth day.

Speaker 8 (20:46):
But in the.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Playoffs, hell, I want him that if we got to
start three, he's one of them, sorry to tell you.
If he's not, then we're then I'm not seeing the
same things the rest of the world's seeing. So he
has been his contribution that almost cheapens oh contribution, Thanks
for your contribution. He's no participation, trophy man. This dude's

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real right now, at least what we've seen this year.
He's been without Jason Alexander and the way things have gone,
the Astros are not in first place that they would have.
I can say that you can if that to all
teams and if this guy's but Jason Alexander wasn't the
if he's not your don, he's wasn't losing Hunter Brown.
This is the guy he had no idea about. So

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the yif really doesn't apply. Nobody expected this. So if
that guy put it this way, Guys you never heard
of coming into a season on any team in Major
League Baseball? Is there anybody that's impacted a team more
or done with his job more from a guy you'd
never heard of or expecting nothing from this year? Of
all these thirty teams in baseball? The answer is no.
And so what he's done these last what's it, six seven,

(21:54):
eight starts? Whatever it's been to maybe even more than that. Hell,
you lose track of time. In the second half of
season he has been. They would not be in first
place if he's not pitching for them right now. I mean,
there was a.

Speaker 6 (22:06):
Caller last night with Ross as I was falling asleep,
I was listening, that said, he's this year's us, say
Kakuchi that, I mean, what you got last year out
of Yusa Kakuchi down the stretch? I think we can
all agree, Sean, that won the division.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
For them, And yet we all know who Kakuchi was
before he got here.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
Well, you're right, I mean we at least knew a
little bit more about him than I mean, judging by
the reaction the sum with the trade package you gave away,
not a ton of knowledge about use Kakuchi and what
he could do.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
But I mean that was another decision. Last night.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
You mentioned him going seven innings. He hadn't gone more
than six this entire season. So Joe would have been
very much within his rights of saying, now now we've
hit that six innings, we haven't thrown him more than this.
But he also looked at the bullpen and said, not
so much of that group right now. I'm gonna stick
with this guy because he's keeping him off balance.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Absolutely, absolutely, it was just off I mean, and I
had no time did I feel like, oh man, this
guy doesn't belong here, get him out. He's just been
he's been fantastic. And well, always say this, your stars
have to rear their head at this time of year.
But there's always somebody from the Marwin Gonzalezes to the

(23:17):
JP Francis to there's always somebody on a roster that
when you're gonna win the thing or win the division,
it's there, Sorry somebody, you say, how did that? Jake
Myers would have been that guy? How did a two
twenty hitter hit three two ninety eight this year? That
those are the things just and they've been fortunate. And
I always say this when you get all these injuries,

(23:39):
you have to have a guy or two that maybe
you didn't expect have career years. Well, Jason Alexander's having
one the way his impact here and Jake Myers was
having one. Pain you just had one. So they with
all that, if those guys don't have career type years,
that the Astros are chasing this down, the Astros in
air chase regardless of you're one of the stars. And
then you got to get that production from a guy

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like Jordan al Alvarez of the Stars to carry. But
there's always somebody, one or two guys like damn, and
the Astros would not be in first place if the Myers,
the Paynia, the Jason Alexander's haven't elevated their game to
another level. And with all these injuries, hell, we'd be
sitting here saying, ah, football season is going to be
a good one. Hopefully this is going to be tough
to get in the playoffs. That's where you'd be right now.

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So it's the other guy that's made a huge impact
on this team. When I say the other guy, the
guy that hasn't had a three hundred hitting season like
Paynia or Jake Myers, and have contributed mightily, even though
injuries have befell this team big time now.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
Definitely had to battle through a fair share of those
this year, and the Astros trying to be able to
get their way to the finish line as best as possible.
Rogers c. You're right there, will work you in. You
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Speaker 1 (24:56):
We're there for the Sewn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
Continued Roger to get us going early this morning, Roger,
good morning, Good morning, gentlemen.

Speaker 9 (25:07):
As I'm here at the atm uh uh so, my
my thing is with Jason Alexander, and I've been I've
been saying this quite a few times. Yeah, he is
your number two starter, and it happened. What He's been
steady the whole time he's been here, but really since
Robber's been going south with the last six or seven starts.

(25:28):
And my thing is, my argument is this because I
was saying as playoffs for starts today, I started Alexander
after Hunter Brown and then there's everybody saying, well, he
might get upset and he might take it the wrong
way and he might not understand. I go, well, my
argument is this, he's gonna get upset anyway. He's gonna
be He's gonna get a set after a ground ball
that he doesn't feel. He's gonna get upset after a miscalled,

(25:50):
the deal doesn't get he's gonna get a miss called
with no offense. He's gonna get upset with no offense.

Speaker 10 (25:56):
I mean, there's a lot of variable's going on with
Humber right now. So and and we're prepared to live
well off of that Farmber next year. So what what
are you really losing if the playoffs are stat today?

Speaker 9 (26:06):
That's just my point. And I'll get your I'll get
your over the phone. I'm right.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I appreciate it, buddy, Thanks Roger. I guess what I'm
not worried about Fromber's feelings when it comes to where
he is now. I can tell you this, what's going
to happen in the postseason they get there, it's gonna
go Hunter Fromborough and Jason Alexander. Jason's not going to
start ahead of him. I'm with Roger right now. I
have more confidence to Jason Alexander today than I do
from bra Valdez. From Ber Valdez got some of the

(26:34):
best stuff on the in the world, and at some
point in his career, when the stuff matches, the mental
approach and the emotional deal with it. Like I said,
I've said it before, he'll be damn near unhittable. But
when in that case, yes, you're gonna If you're gonna
get where you want to go, from Ravaldez has to
pitch well, not just now to get there, but in
the postseason he just does. So you're counting on him.

(26:54):
But Roger's right, I mean, he's gonna be playing somewhere
else next year, but you're trying to make a World
Series run, so you're hoping you get it right here.
But one thing you can't worry about is if Fromber's
having a tough day because you decided to pull him
or start somebody else, which you're not going to start
anybody in front of him. So he's going to go
and probably going to get the first start in the postseason.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
But here's the thing. You know, you put Joe a
spot in the room of truth. You think he has
any regret about not pitching. You say Kakuchi at all
in that two games that he had the postseason last year,
because you almost feel like you have a do over
right now with Jason Alexander the way he's pitched.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, oh, I listen. One of the biggest bummers we have.
We didn't get to see Kakuchi because they didn't take
care of their business to get to him, which he
would have had the next start. Correct, Yeah, you would
be number three and never saw him. So yeah, maybe
it's going to be a decision you were talking about
the decision he made to face the criticism. If the
if the trend of what's happened continues, some up, some down,

(27:51):
but the other two guys, Hunter Brown doing his thing
and Jason Alexander doing his you'll be faced with the decision.

Speaker 8 (27:57):
Now.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
You know that I play empowerment too much of it
bugs me. But to Roger's point, but that I'm with
him that I'm not worried about your fragility. Let's see,
you're tough enough. We got to do that. But I
can tell you this when it gets right down to it.
This is so I hate saying this, but you almost

(28:19):
have to because in the playoffs, if you're down to
I treat every playoff game like it's single elimination, even
if it's not. That's the mentality you have to have
in order in a longer series to go. In football,
you're always living by a single game mentality, and baseball
you got seven of them see leeway. But your attitude
has to be how are we going to do this?
Just you treat it like it's an elimination. That's you
have to pitch. I just have to play even if

(28:40):
you're up three games, because we've seen teams come from
three down and win a championship, So you almost I
hate to say this, but there will be the mentality
to get the most out of him in twenty twenty five.
You may have to cater to him or you may
lose him. That's the sad part. So Roger, I'm with you.
If I'm gonna lose him next sure, why do I care?

(29:00):
Let's find out? Well, the reason why I care is
we didn't trade him at the deadline. You're got you're
not gonna get much for your not you known' you're
not gonna get the value you would have got to
trade the deadline. If somebody gives you what a compensatory timey.
They'll give them qualifying he'll reject it and go right,
So you're not gonna get what you would have got
for a premium left hander. The reason why you didn't
try to trade him is because you felt your World
Series team, well, here we are. So you get to

(29:23):
a point you say, you know what I am gonna
have to cater to him, aren't I, which means when
you open up the World Series or the playoffs, you
know who's going to start Game one, more than likely
it's from her. Wouldn't you know? You don't think? You
don't think so, or you don't And I didn't say

(29:43):
want ed to What are they gonna do? You go
Hunter Brown? I just say who you? I know who
the ace is? What do you think they're gonna do?
I think they're gonna go Hunter Brown?

Speaker 10 (29:53):
Do you?

Speaker 11 (29:56):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (29:56):
You don't know? Won't we won't shock you if they
choose from a I'm just tell you I would like
to think that they're going hunder Brown because I don't
think it's even in question. But who can handle going
number two as opposed to number one? More? Who meant
emotionally would handle it better? I can't worry about that.
You have to, unfortunately, because you absolutely have to because

(30:18):
of one strigid. I get one, I get the next,
and then I'll worry about tomorrow. Tomorrow, I know, But
you're not answering. I'm not talking about Joe spotted. I'm
talking about which one of those pitchers. It's a simple
question which one of those pictures handles pitching second as
opposed to pitching first better emotionally. I mean it's probably
Hunter Brown. If it's probably, then you ain't been paying
attention to emotion on the mount, and I know you have.

(30:40):
So there's no doubt who we point to as the starter. Hell,
i'd make from or start the third game if it
was me. But you're going to go what righty left?
I get it, But I'm just telling you that one
you're in more chance of Lucy, unless, of course, he
doesn't want the pressure of pitching Game one and Hunter
Brown does. May there's no doubt what they'll do, But

(31:02):
you cannot be shocked if they run from Er out there,
and the only reason they do it first is there
it's the hope factor. Please let this be that day
when he's that Fromber And then the problem is if
you get sideways in two and a third, you're getting
your ass handed to you. Because he went sideways. You
don't got him in game two now, and you don't

(31:23):
have him in game three. See my point, So you
got to be very judicious in that decision. I know
the decision you and I'd make. I don't know if
that's the decision they'll make, but they are gonna have
to test that fragility and what they're willing to risk
with him for the rest of twenty twenty five because
at this time next year you may be facing him
in a playoff game. You ain't gonna he's not gonna
be leading you out when you open the season.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
Well, it's a shame that you even have to have
that enter into your thought process, but seemingly the Astros do,
because well that's you take the good, you take the bad,
all of that.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
How often do you hear them criticize him.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
They don't criticize him openly. I've heard things behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, but I'm talking about but do you' they're very
cognizant of his rabbit ears, correct. I mean, that's why
I think that it's it's no doubt of you know, when.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
You want to win.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
You want the bigger guarantee to win Game one, that
you know that if he has a struggle in the
first thing will tough. It will tough, the toughest way
through it. We know that answer. Now, maybe he'll surprise
us if you get the good Fromber, No problem. Hell,
I'll take him Game one all day, every day. The
problem is the if that's in front of it.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
Saying I mean, if you're telling me Doc Brown's in
front of me telling me he's gonna be twenty twenty
two Fromber, then of course sure. But I just there's
there's no reason for me to believe that that guy
is there right now.

Speaker 11 (32:46):
I HA.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
The problem I hate saying that about your number one starter.
Yeah socks pleased? Is Detroit saying that no about Google?
Yeah not even close. That's there you go. Would would
you run at game one? Come hell or high water.
The dude has a brace on his right arm, He's
pitching with his left arm. Okay, he'll roll it back

(33:07):
to his ass. So you get my point. I mean,
you're like, well, whatever we gotta do. The sad thing
is with that stuff, You're like, this shouldn't be creeping
in we should know who our number one starter is.
Yet we don't got to get there first though, because
it's still a one game leaks, we lose, they lose,
the Astros win, the other two teams win, and hang tough.
It's if you love the final week of baseball season,

(33:29):
the drama it's coming.

Speaker 6 (33:31):
It'll be fun watch. And you know how much of
a Pat Murphy fan I am. But damn you Brewers
and damn you Cardinals.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Both of you.

Speaker 6 (33:38):
You're both in time out. You're both on the list anyway.
They don't want to be on the list.

Speaker 10 (33:43):
No, you don't.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
You don't want to be on the list. Once you're
on the list, it's hard to get off the list.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
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Speaker 6 (35:15):
Like, if you ever notice people will move from the Northeast,
they go down to the Florida and people in the
Midwest will go out to California.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Well used to not so much anymore. Yeah they there
you go, that might help they go to much better
they go to. The truth is, people in the Midwest
a lot of times ends up in Scottsdale. Now that
that that's that's like a Chicago, that's a big Cubs
spring training place. But yeah, it is that you're right

(35:43):
east coast, go to Florida, West coast, California until the
course California leadership ruins just about everything. But if you're
gonna go to California, excuse me, san Diego ain't a
bad place to go. I was gonna say, I think
San Diego, Orange County, Orange County, down south, that's where
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(36:04):
the closer you get to Gavenowsom, and the closer you
get to a headache for the rest of your life.
So don't do it. The traffic, Yeah, people, you got
eight nine lanes and at twelve thirty in the morning.
Two in the morning, you can be driving home and
you'll have to im you could get bumper to bumper.

Speaker 11 (36:21):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
I've literally left games like back in the day, like
when the Lake we go to a Laker game or
a Clipper game, its season ticket. We'd come back for
San Diego. Yeah, you'd go grab like drive through Tommy's
Burger afterwards to get something for a road trip home,
be like eleven thirty. And I'm not talking about the stadium.
Traffic right around what used to be the Forum or
the Staples Center now or the Sports Arena before it
became Staple Center over across the way, and once you

(36:45):
get out of there, you think, okay, I'm on getting
from Beverly and Rampart where Tommy's Burger is to get
on the freeway. I've literally been driving back down to
San Diego at midnight and it's been full of traffic
and no accident. So I mean it's just like, hey man,
welcome to Welcome to California. If you're in a hurry,
don't be in a hurry at two in the morning,
because you're you're not getting home so until it's going

(37:06):
to take you three hours to get to San Diego
then two at that time, so yeah, it's beautiful state
and we could stop right there. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:14):
The craziest thing I've ever seen was flying out of
lax at odd hours twice in my life. One of
them was after I covered a rose bowl. I flew
out at midnight that night. You would have thought that
it was five o'clock in the afternoon, trying to even
get to the terminal, Like I remember to even telling
my buddy, I go, dude, I don't know if we're
gonna make it. I was like, if that happens, what
the hell are we going to do? And then the

(37:35):
other one was I had an early morning red eye
at like four am to get out of there after
the National Championship obviously headed back this way, right yeah,
And I mean, same deal. And that was also too.
It was in January February. That's when you get the
atmospheric rivers that come through there, so they actually get rained,
so rain there is a lot like when we get

(37:55):
ice on the ground here, the entire area just shuts
down and people don't know what the hell to do
with themselves.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
But both of those times, it was like, like, is
not the only two times you've ever been in Lactually no, no, no, no, no, right, yeah, yeah,
I've been to La quite a bit.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
Yeah, I mean despite what it's you know, turning into,
I mean, I still love the town.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
The city itself is also it's a there's so much
to love about it. Yes, unfortunately, if it's a breathing
human being in a lot of senses, you know that
ain't the one. Meaning the leadership, that's the bummer part
of it, because it's like, what a beautiful state, but
everybody wants to run away from it and it's just expensive.
Why we're paying six dollars and fifty cents a gallon?

(38:38):
It's the how does anybody do that? You got to
walk to work there? Use a Fred Flintstone mobile to
get to work. It's nuts for you know, everybody's not
rich that lives in California. The perception that it is
ain't the case. Most of them were. Probably their car
is probably nicer than the place they live because the presentation.
But yeah, it's crazy, man. And it's sad to say

(38:59):
because as my home state, like Texas, I'm a Texas
person even though I grew up in San Diego and
was born there. If you are allowed to say that
or can say it. I just know that I don't
know why anybody would want to deal with all that
right now. The beauty of it, yes, the rest of it,
the pop just the way they go vackstage. You can't.
People just I don't ever remember that being an issue.

(39:20):
Growing up was just you go and you didn't carry
and you just loved the weather and loved growing up there.
It was a great place to grow up where I
grew up asking you it was awesome. And now you
look back and say, there's always something. And I haven't
been in Santa Monica a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,
that's that's that city and that state look a lot different, man,
and they're not not a good way.

Speaker 6 (39:39):
Well, I mean started working out and using TRT to
help me because I got fat and lazy. In LA's
kind of gotten fat and lazy too, So maybe it
needs like whatever for a city is TRT and working out.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
So that's it. You know, we get that they're going
to need a lot, need a lot. You don't have
to find the presentation of a state. The state's awesome, beautiful,
it's a and people can ruin a lot of things
about Unfortunately, they've done a good job of it in
that state, forcing people to go somewhere else. And that's
strictly on leadership and nobody else. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:08):
Anyway, well, leadership heer is good, especially with the astros
and also to a guy that, as I've mentioned, maybe
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Speaker 6 (42:57):
And at the Astros winners last night three two nice
to say that again back at this afternoon Christian Xavier
against Kevin Gossman. Listen to it right here. Astros on
deck coming your way at one o'clock. You know my
problem is the Mariners and Rangers. Well, those darn guys
just continue to win. And the Mariners win last night,
Rangers do too, So Seattle just to game back of

(43:18):
the Astros and the Rangers two and a half back
in the Aos. Texan's gonna get back on the practice field.
This is their Wednesday as they get ready for Monday
night against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers over at NRG Stadium.
Someone three, two, two, five seven ninety is the number
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(43:38):
with Ross, Well, they do a thing every single Friday
called I'm Sorry, and Jonathan, their producer, will start playing
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
I'm sorry. Hey, tell me the gist of it.

Speaker 6 (43:49):
So the gist of it is, you know, they apologize
to each other, they apologize to people they've wronged outside
the building, and you know, they confess your sense a
little bit, a little bit yeah, kind of kind of
and you know, and they apologize to UH athletes coaches
that they've criticized.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Sukay. Yeah, they feel like they get like fifty apologies
or just pick one away.

Speaker 6 (44:12):
I mean it's it's as many as you want. I mean,
what whatever, whatever you want to get off your your
your chest. It's the trust tree here, it's the nest.
And then they allow listeners to do the same thing.
Maybe I should apologize to yinor Dias because I mean
I've I've bagged on Yinor quite a bit this year.
It's been the one handed swings over the sliders where
you're like, why do you keep swinging at that?

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Why do you keep doing that?

Speaker 6 (44:34):
Which it seems like jose Al Tuves kind of got
the disease right now. But yinor Diaz, you don't win
that game last night without Yiner, and you don't went
on Saturday without Yiner batting right there in that eighth spot. Well,
I mean, we like to think of Yiner being an
up in the order guy. But maybe just for this year, Yiner,
maybe you found your place.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Are you gonna apologize? Or they sit there and saying
maybe I should apologize? Could I could I lay out
the Could I lay out the spread. How start freaking long?
Do you need? Well, I mean to the point play
if you if you keep interrupting, I can't that. That's
a rich concept that the guy interrupts. Hell, you'll I'll
be in the middle of the interview in Dana Brown.

(45:14):
He'll say, hey, Sean, remember this movie data? Did you
remember when closed? And people at Homer saying why is
he talking about?

Speaker 11 (45:23):
So there I go.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
But the word interruption from others should never come out
of your mouth. Okay, never come out of your mouth.
Judging from the the inboxes, I get is he gonna
let you finish talking, So have at it and continue
your soliloquy on a simple.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
But you brought the game up, so show me what
you got. The final plate is being put on the table.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I've been so.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Hard on you.

Speaker 6 (45:49):
Okay, what if he goes over for tonight, Well, then
you know we take all of the plates off the
table and it's it's a day to day apology.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
No, no, no, no, no, it's it's not.

Speaker 6 (45:56):
He's he seems like he's he's really in a good
spot right now and he's feeling the most comfortable at
the plate that he has all season long.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
I think he's batting just under three hundred right now
in the month of subject. You've been hot, there's no doubt,
and it's needed. He we talk about astros getting to
where they're going. We mentioned Fromber and guys that have
salvaged it. I think it's going to be especially with
Jordan and depending on where he hits in a lineup,
which is I would imagine he's going to stay in

(46:25):
the two hole most of the time to get him
more at bats, but to be able to get a
Christian Walker or a Jiner Diaz driving the baseball and
doing what he did last night, believe it was a
double earlier in the game that he had as well.
That that's going to not just lengthen and strengthen the lineup,
but wouldn't it be nice that if you get people
in scoring position that you can trust that he's getting

(46:45):
hot and putting the ball in play in key moments
like he did last night. We know he can hit hints.
Why he's been Listen, they didn't make him the catcher
of the future here just because his glover arm. Matter
of fact, those are still behind and understanding pitching staffs
that that's a work in progress. But the thing that
catapulted him was his bat. And that's exactly why Dana
Brown in this group committed to him when Corey Lee

(47:07):
was here and said, that's the guy. He should be
a twenty five to thirty home run guy, driving ninety
runs plus every year, even as a catcher part time
once in a while. DH, maybe you put him at
first base once in a while, but if he gets
the forty four and fifty five hundred bats, that's a
twenty five and it should be every year. I don't
need him to get three hundred, but you know a
two seventy five guy. Listen when you say catcher playing

(47:28):
every day at two seventy five and hit you twenty
five to thirty home runs, driving in eighty five to
one hundred runs, isn't that? Isn't that? Well the numbers
that you beg for if you get, if you get
the Buster Posies and Johnny Bench's of the world. I'm
not saying he's them, but go back and look at
Bench's big years. I mean, I know the game's changed

(47:48):
with the long ball, but the Carlton fists, those guys
or you can count on them and if you're getting now,
if you get Mike Piazza, god bless you.

Speaker 10 (47:56):
So it is.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
His bat is explosive enough to hit two seventy five
and hit twenty five home runs and there's plenty of
power there. So that's why he was the catcher of
the future. It's not like you had, you know, Pud
Rodriguez behind the plate throwing people out every time. Now,
that doesn't mean that sometimes he's not going to advance
into that because when you usually draft a first round catcher,

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you're hoping he can hit. But what do you say,
great arm, great defensive catcher, and the hitting seems like
it's supposed to be a bonus for your catcher, right Well,
then you get a guy who can do both and
it's a blessing. And he can do both. But the
hittings ahead of the pitching. It just hasn't been consistently
this year but lately, and he's been he's been challenged
all year long. He's answered that. The question is can

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he sustain the rest of the year. He's a guy
you can't if he's not catching, you got to keep
them in the lineup right now because that he's starting
to feel it, let him feel it, keep him in
a lineup one way or the other, whether he's between
him and Karatini, I don't care how you do it.
If youred On stays and left and al two VA's
at second base and Christian Walker's at first catcher DH
for both of them, then you get both in the
lineup and you because right now, you don't have time
to worry about, well what if we got to make

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this switch? And you gotta have your nine best every
single time, especially at the plate, and Yaner Diaz is
playing well enough to offer that right now.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
Three zero three with a home run and eight runs
batted in in the month of September and the last
few games for Yinery. He's had at least a run
batted in in his last four games, three against the Rangers,
one on Sunday and then one on Monday, and then
also the game last night with the two runs that
he had batted in, including the most important one, the

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third one, the one that ended up making the difference
in the game last nights. And yeah, I mean, would
you like him to be Salvador president in his career?
That'd be great, especially two when you factor in how
he got here. Yeah, he got here almost as a
throw in in that trade for Miles Straw. So much
for the throw in in your future. Okay, he proven
now why he's that guy just like he did last year.
He looks more like the guy at the plate that

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we saw last year. And when he's driving the ball
to right, say, he's got power tool. When he's going good,
he's driving at baseball and it's nice. So right now, however,
days and he's young enough he as long as he's
not catching every day, he can take us for it, Pats.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
And it's amazing because two months ago you just said, gosh, dang,
and we did. Should Caroten to be playing more? That's
was the question. Right now again they make good decisions
and they allowed Yainer to play through it.

Speaker 6 (50:19):
And here we are, all right, the stakeout is upon
us here on the Sewan Salisbury Show. And let's just
say this is one interesting way to try to get
out of a debt. We will talk about it here.
It is a Sean Salisbury show on a Thursday, Sports
Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Let the celebration start war Sean Salisbury. It's a Sean
Salisbury show.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now
the Salisbury stakeout, Salisbury's takeout on.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
The Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (50:57):
And on this Thursday, getting ready for the Astros in
Blue Jay's finale this afternoon one o'clock Astros on debt
coming your way as the Stros try to take that
series up there after winning last night three to two.
Mariners and Rangers both win yesterday, so Seattle remains a
game behind and the Rangers are now just two and
a half games back of the Astros in the Al West.

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Sean getting out of a debt, and we've talked about
something like this both on air and off air before.
Of you lend somebody money, which, by the way, I
still ow you twenty dollars, so you know it's perfect
timing for me to remember that. No, no, well I
do remember, and tomorrow you will have a Crisp Nice
who's on the twenty?

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Is that grant?

Speaker 6 (51:40):
You'll have a Crisp Nice twenty right there as you
get into work tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
All right, sounds great? All right?

Speaker 6 (51:45):
So at least I don't know you seventeen thousand dollars
in a gambling debt like Jay Gonzalez Diaz did because
he was booked under the passenger name Jeremy Diaz, when
he was attained after he allegedly jumped off Royal Caribbean's
Rhapsody of the Seas. During the disembarkment of the ship,

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security footage shows Gonzales Dias being brought to shore by
two passing at jet skis, and Customs and Border Patrol
officers said they found fourteen thousand, six hundred in US currency,
one backpack, one handbag, two mobile devices, and five identification
documents in his possession. When asked why he jumped off

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the ship, he allegedly told officers in Spanish that he
didn't want to report the currency on his possession because
he thought it was going to be tax duties for
bringing in the currency, and the cruise line investigators then
told they told investigators that Diaz Gonzales Dias actually had
a gambling debt of almost seventeen thousand dollars that was

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exclusively associated.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
To casino and gaming expenses.

Speaker 6 (52:55):
So he had a marker with the ship and they
come to collect and he said, all right, well the
hell with this, I'll just jump off the boat and
you can't get me.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Do you have you ever noticed cruise ships. Nowadays, it
feels like every cruise ship that lead. I know it's not,
but we're always talking about some issue with a cruise ship.
Everybody's sick, somebody got batchelism, somebody got pushed off, somebody
was on their honeymoon and the husband threw the wife off,
somebody jumped off, somebody accidentally fell off, people fighting around

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the pool because they got their drink a second later
than somebody else.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
I mean, cruise ships have become trash. It's is the
branding right now is definitely taking a hits. I mean
it's kind of like media me and you have talked about,
you know, are disdean for flying. Like for me, it's
it fits a drive of less than eight hours.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
I'm driving. I'm going. If it's a drive in the
United States, you're going. If you give me the choice,
I'll leave a day or truly, And it's not for
any other reason other than I just think airport's are
pain in the ass. I'd rather drive. I learn, I
enjoy it. I know it's tough to get there, and
plus I like taking my dogs with me anyway, So
I only get on a plane like going to Hawaiian

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because that's I have to. I gotta get on a
plane to go and deal with you know, hopefully read
a book and not talk and get there and enjoy
the beach and then get back home. So I'm not
I don't get it. And I know there's some really
good cruise ships that don't go through us, but it
feels like every day I'm looking I'm looking at a

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at a cruise ship, and it's another story. Now imagine
standing over that you've got yourself seventeen grand a debt
because you're chasing money as a gambler and your only
recourses too. Let me jump off the bloat. Let me
jump off the ship, not a boat of ship. I'll
tell you man. People are people are whackle. But there's
always something going on with a cruise ship. And during

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hurricane season, you ain't finding me out in the middle
of the ocean unless I can see land with a
during hurricane season, I just that's not for me because
I don't get seasick. But the thought of being out
there with those swells that I that's I you're no control.
That's not for me. So and I've been on them,
and I love I've had every cruise I've been on

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it has been great, but it feels like the industry
is taking a major hit the last decade, say at
least since twenty twenty or even sooner. But you see
all these videos, it's like this is this is I mean,
there's got to be better than some of the trash
you see on there and people stealing from people and
fights and yeah, I mean it's just cruise ships. The

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industry is not exactly their favorite right now.

Speaker 6 (55:36):
I would just say that probably cabin fever literally, you know,
because they tell you your room is your cabin. I
mean I feel like that that can start to kind
of creep in for people where it's like you got
to get me off this boat, but.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
You're you're off every day. If you want to you're off. Well,
then that's the youth. Then why go on a cruise?
See that's if you're going on a cruise and you say, okay,
we're pulling into Saint Bart's next stop, kids, and you're like,
I'm stir crazy, and you don't get off for the
eight hours you can get off and go sit in
the sand or walk around and have a beach taco,

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and you stay on the thing because you just don't
you then and you get then why take a cruise
of what do you do it?

Speaker 6 (56:14):
See that's me right there, because I'm like, just just
give me a low cow. I mean, even if it's
a small island. I can go to one beach one
day and then ride a bike or do something to
get over to the other side and go to that one.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Like I'm good with that. I'm getting a every time
you docs, I wish they've stayed longer. At times, I'm
getting off the plane to see the new country or
the new city or whatever it is. I just but
to get on a cruise say no, I'm not getting off.
I'm just gonna say. Then you got to really love
the one, then you. I think the people who don't
get off don't get stir crazy because they love it.
How about the people who live on those like cruise

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nine or ten months a year, like the Ritz Carlton,
it's basically it's docked. It's your home on the water.
I mean that's pretty good, peaceful fun lived as long
as you know you can see shoreline and get in
whatever you want. But I don't cruise lines man. And
if you're chasing money on a gambling that forces you
to have to jump off the ship. You probably need

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probably need to go see somebody.

Speaker 6 (57:13):
Seill help life goals here is get rich enough to
be able to go on below deck and be one
of the you know, be the primary is you know,
I mean these are people who have just gobs of money,
boatloads of money, and they go on there and it's
I mean, it's it's a luxury yacht. It's it's everything
you want. A martini Martini is ready for you. I

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want an espresso martini in the morning.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Oh when you get on the spresso Martini's ready for
a right cruise with like an outdoor deck where you
can go and sit out and look and in a
big room that's got a shower that's tall as you
feel like you're in a condo, right those those uh
those rooms, Uh hell, what's not the love well?

Speaker 6 (57:52):
And then it's also too, Oh it's got entertainment. Well,
I can find entertainment anywhere. Oh it's cart casinos. Yeah,
so does that town the desert out in the west.
They've got it too, And it's on land. I'm good
with that. That cruise I never have and I don't
think I ever will.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
You know, if you get the right one, the one
that's like they're not overly crowded in during a sea
you know, cruise seasonal time where everybody wants to go.
They're actually they're actually worth one. It's it's worth doing
it one time if you get the right one in
a nice room and you get to serve, because it
really is. If they gave you the good serve here
on one of those, it's like, Okay, that was worth it.

(58:29):
But the people who do it like everything. Like I've
told you, my aunt was a she took a thousand crew.
When I say a thousand, I'm not joking. In her life,
her vacations were always like every two months or every
six weeks was a cruise, and they go all the time,
and they became to the point where they're damn cruising
for free. I'm like, man, I love you. That just
wasn't for me. But it's like that was everything they

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did was get off the cruise. You've already planned the
next one. I guess their favorite was like going to Alaska.
My mom went with her on that one. My parents
did that said it was phenomenal. That's a cruise. I
have not been on that, And my parents raved about
it when they.

Speaker 6 (59:01):
My parents played golf at midnight because it was still
daylight out there in Alaska during the summer when they
need to move there.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
So you can actually time. I can get out out
of it, and it's not a simulator, and I could
play golf, noah, because you can play golf like one
month a year there, that's why. So that's twenty four
hours a day for thirty straight days. Mike thirty six
might blister the hands on that one if I don't
get callouses enough from holding that golf club. So now, yeah, man,
I'm with you.

Speaker 11 (59:25):
I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Atlanta was the furthest north that I'm willing to go.
That's for me. What about Nova Scotia, You look like
a Nova Scotia guy.

Speaker 6 (59:34):
No, No, eventually, I mean like Toronto. I hear great
things about Toronto. Yeah, like I might wanted the bank
account if you're going to Toronto, That's what I hear. Yeah,
one of these years, maybe if baseball ever goes back
to Montreal, Yeah, it'd be good.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Go to Montreal. It won't be Jerry Park now with
the little pool in the right the right field, like
it's like it looked like your public pool that we
had a baseball field at it old Jerry Parks. It
was awesome and I could already picture Rusty Stob hitting there,
you know. But yeah, I thought you might be a
Nova Scotia guy. No, I thought you might be a

(01:00:09):
Calgary Stampede guy, like during the rodeo. No, no, neither
neither of those places. I don't work.

Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
I don't work in oil and gas. There's no need
to go to Calgary. Calgary Calgary nice. Is that what
you guys call it here?

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Calary? I believe that is what they call it up
There is Calgary there in their country. They Calgary beautiful area.
Now it's beautiful.

Speaker 6 (01:00:31):
I mean, look, look, I mean like my buddy Andy
that I was hanging out with last night, he was
telling me about their trip last year to BAMFF and
he said it was awesome, said it was great.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
It was it was amazing out there. But no, I'm good. Look,
here's a lot of places in the States I still
want to see that I haven't seen before. I need
to go to BAMF state side with you, though, if
you like to ski. Baff is a good place.

Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
Stateside for me. Remember we talked about, you know, and
we did the exercise on air. You know, money, money
not an issue. Live anywhere, I said, Clearwater, Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
What about give me a result right now? Get a
week where you're going in the state.

Speaker 6 (01:01:03):
I've never mainland. I've never been the key West Mainland.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Yeah, okay, I'd like to go to key West. Fun
bars there, That's what I hear. Good time, you know,
go hang out with Jimmy Johnson if you like to
fish al Mara. If you get a chance to go
to al Marod, it's one of the great fishing resort.
It's the cheek a lodge.

Speaker 11 (01:01:19):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
The al Marod is one of the best in the Keys.
Is one of my favorite places. I'll throw on a
Tommy mohamma in a you know, one of those uh
straw little lops golf shorts, nice t shirt and goes
Panama jack hat. I'll throw that on.

Speaker 6 (01:01:33):
And you know you like a cold beer down there?
I do love a cold beer. So I mean all
of that, It all plays. I'm with Go fishing a
little bit, find Jimmy Johnson and try to get some
you know, old Miami stories.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
Out of there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
His yacht. Oh there, he invites me. I think the
party is always where Jimmy is in the Keys. I
got to get to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, or which
I haven't been to play golf but for me, yeah,
abandoned dunes, but it's just golf. But I want to
get to Kiawa Island and the Charleston, Savannah and then

(01:02:08):
Kiowa Island there because that I need to go play
that state that was and play at that golf course
like eight straight days. That's what I need to do.
My eyes are set there. But I had never been
stayed at the night in Savannah, Georgia or Charleston, South Carolina,
and I'd love to go to both.

Speaker 6 (01:02:23):
We did Bandon, we did. We did Bandon in Pacific
when I was in high school. Fun time, those phenomenal.
It was awesome.

Speaker 10 (01:02:29):
It was.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
It was when Ben Curtis won the Open. We watched
it in Eureka, California. Then we drove to Eureka.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
It's about as northern as you can get way up
there in northern CALIFORNA beautiful too. Mount Shasta. We passed
by Mount Shasta. Yeah, it was. It was quite a trip.
What's the name of that resort in Kiowa it's it's
what's the golf course the ocean course. Oh yeah, the
Ocean course which is where the Ryder couple was that
one year and the war by the Shore. Yeah, PGA,
that's where Phil won when Phil was thumb up and everybody,

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everybody I've taught, when you'll get like a golf site,
that'll say, hey, tell courses in the world you ever played,
you start going through them. And there was a couple
people there said, I think the sanctuary is the resort
there that you go to Myrtle Beach and you're playing
from like Bact's there at that golf course, at the
Ocean course. That it is absolutely frigging brutal just if
you're not playing good golf, even if you are, if

(01:03:18):
you're not and it's windy, you can you might as
well just have Mike Tyson punch in the face twenty
five times.

Speaker 6 (01:03:22):
Elite Summer and I will die on this hill. Elite
Summer spots is North or South Carolina beaches.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Yeah, from hilton Head Sea, I tell you, Sea Island,
Sea Pines, Reynold's plantation out there, bald Head Island. Yeah.
Oh oh, that's a small little live take golf carts
only right Cataline Island and you know who has a
place there, No Cower. I friggin love it. Yeah I
could go there and yeah I need the Myrtles of

(01:03:49):
the Beach Charleston, Savannah for a week and just get
that old, that old low country love that they got
there to eat your Philip shrimp and grants. Dude, I'm
on it like a chicken on a june bug. Dude.
When I tell you you know people here, Oh we're
in the South, I'm like, we ain't. My buddy's the
Pebble Beach trip we just took. I think this year's

(01:04:11):
this next year's trip. Do it yearly. Now we'll be
a minimum once a year we're going to do it.
It would be it's either going to be the Myrtle Beach,
Hilton head that area this year. Because you can play
a million course, you can play thirty six in a
day and never get tired of point.

Speaker 6 (01:04:23):
Hilton's awesome. Yeah, Hilton's a great time. That's the That's
the stop this year for us. So if you go
to Hilton, I got places for you, thank you. That
was that was that was always a weekly or weekly,
a yearly trip for me. And my Atlanta buddies.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
I love it is.

Speaker 6 (01:04:35):
One of our friends drive from there from Atlanta like
four and a half. I was going to say five. Yeah,
wasn't that bad?

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Okay? It was good time, so good golf, good times,
good everything.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
All right, So let's get in a little bit of
Texans because, you know, talking about Tamiko Ryans the other day,
there's one more question that I have regarding the Texans
head coach. We'll discuss it here on the Sean Salisbury
Show Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
The Shawn Salves Show continued.

Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
Sean, I mean, you know today, especially just a lot
of heavy hearts with the events that happened yesterday out
in Utah and just you know the sadness that that carries.
But you know it's also I mean you look down
at what day it is. You know how people ask
you sometimes, hey, what day is it? Well, this is

(01:05:23):
one that we shouldn't have to remember what day it
is because for a lot of us, I mean, this
was a day that I mean you, even with it
being nearly twenty five years ago, you remember exactly where
you were, You remember who told you, how they told you,
and the footage of.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
That day, the this day is always going to be
this day now, and September eleventh will hit different, even
if you know it's just you know, when you wake up,
it's different for you turn on your TV and you're
seeing the incredible images and people who are still the
constant reminder of what happened and that somebody from outside

(01:06:01):
our country rolled in and just basically changed our world forever.
And you know, everybody knows somebody who knows somebody who
was there. And then you hear the stories of you know,
the guy who never missed a day of worker late
in his life and that day was derailed and couldn't
get to work on time, or somebody that was going

(01:06:23):
to get coffee and bagels for for somebody and they
were twenty minutes late from working and that didn't happen.
And obviously, our you know, if you didn't have respect
for our first responders and the people who save lives
in and before, then shame on you. But coming out
of that, it's like and if you saw what it did,

(01:06:44):
the collateral damage to guys like Pat Tillman who signed
a new contract said no, I gotta put my money
where my mouth is. I it's always emotional. I don't.
I still don't know how how people deal with it.
And then you see the m of people so hopeless
that they're jumping from forty stories up thinking that's the

(01:07:05):
only way they can live. And then yesterday you're simply
at the debate with people who agree and disagree with you,
regardless of the politics, when you used to be encouraged
to debate because we learn more, You're sitting outside in

(01:07:26):
a college campus and a high powered rifle takes your life.
And you're thirty one. You got two young kids at
home and a wife. They'll never understand. I don't understand.
We're not Unfortunately, we're not a wee place anymore. It's
us versus our own. People are killing each other, man
over who you voted for and debate and because you

(01:07:48):
disagree with somebody's approach to whatever it is. I just
I can't believe where we are. And then the happening
yesterday into today. I Charliie Kirk didn't deserve to die yesterday.
He just didn't. And somebody's got to explain to his kids,

(01:08:08):
your dad's not coming home. The youngest one doesn't understand,
and the four or five year old is going to
be like, what, what do you mean Dad's not coming home?

Speaker 10 (01:08:16):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
I thought he was just with a bunch of college
kids that were just encouraging debate with our young people,
whether you disagree or not, encouraging debate. He had great spirit.

Speaker 10 (01:08:25):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
I was devastated. Yes, I lost focus. I didn't return text.
I mean, I was like so discombobulated after it happened,
and just just thinking about what it was the impact
of what it met yesterday. And I can't go too
deep into it because I don't need a week suspension.

(01:08:48):
FCC may not like me, but I do have a
show called Unpaved at twelve noon Central every day you
get on iTunes and Spotify and YouTube and the rest
of you can tune in and see the audio video
every day. I can go with that one a little harder.
But it just was I don't know if you're I'm
angry as could be, or if I'm sad or both,
and I think both. And yesterday it was just devastating

(01:09:09):
to see the horrible pictures and then coming into today
on this changed everybody's life in this country one way
or the other, from how you went about your life
and security and the rest of it. I just this
day's never the same. And then you come on here
and we're talking about striking out and I'm like, man,
do you I was thinking about yesterday, I'm like, how

(01:09:29):
do you add? How do you walk into I seriously
considered taking today off nine to eleven, obviously, but just yesterday,
just by the pictures at a college campus. Who wakes
up in the morning thing, you know, I'm going to
go shoot this thirty one year old kid because I
disagree with his politics and shoot him in the neck.
And his kids are going to see the images on

(01:09:51):
TV forever. And I don't care who it is sitting
in that chair, especially when it's somebody who was passionate
what he did, whether you liked, is what he was
passionate about. At least he encouraged conversation, dialogue, and it's important,
and I did. I've thought I was living in a
sci fi movie watching it yesterday, and then today you're

(01:10:13):
seeing all this and the honoring is all our day
should be. We'll never forget and we shouldn't when it
comes on. It's just the emotion that it brought. I
remember exactly where I was, exactly what the call was
like my exact feelings and what it was like going
into work that way after waking up in a hotel
room at ESPN and the bill, knowing that we were

(01:10:36):
just an hour and forty five minutes away from that
and how ESPN has Sports Network, we were going to
handle it. I can remember I was laying in bed.
I had done late Sports Center the night before, and
we didn't have West Coast Sports Center, so you'd do
the eleven o'clock East Coast and then back again at
like one o'clock. I had to get up the next NFL,
so I didn't get done and out of the studio

(01:10:57):
makeup off till two thirty in the morning. Three in
the morning, and I wasn't doing Morning Drive at the time,
so we went to the hotel room right by ESPN
and stayed the night there because I had to get
up early and thought I might have even had to
go on Mike and Mike the very next morning. That changed.
The world changed, so the sports was off right. They
called us in and I told us how we were

(01:11:17):
going to handle all these shows, which was it's going
to be a new show and Bob Lee was going
to handle you know, the general was going to handle
it all. And I can remember I went to bed
three o'clock and I got a call on my hotel
phone because my turn your ringer. I was trying to
sleep a little bit because I knew it was going
to be another fifteen hour day right now, like a
construction worker. And then when you think about what you're
complaining about, people are walking up in hotels, I mean,

(01:11:40):
and business is trying to save lives, right But I
went to bed that night, and if I finally fell asleep,
you know you're still jacked up after a live sports center.
So I probably got to bed about three thirty four o'clock.
The hotel's right across the street, and I got to
call in my room and there was only one person
time I was married that knew what room I was
in to check, and it rang. I'm like, what's what

(01:12:02):
the hell's you look at the It was like, I
can't remember nine eastern eight. I can't remember where an
East Coast time if it was, it was just it
was between the first and second building being hit. And
I got an answer. I said, hello, turn on your TV.
It was my wife at the time. I said, turn
on my TV. You knew what my schedule was late

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last night. What do you mean turn on my TV?
I don't want what I get to sleep for another hour.
I gotta get up and turn your TV on. And
normally I wouldn't sleep that late because I'm an early riser.
But four o'clock in the morning and you're jacked up, right,
And so it was like eight whatever the time was,
and I said what she said, our countries under our
country is under attack. I said what. I was discombobulated.

(01:12:46):
Turn on that TV, dude, and I'm talking about it.
In a matter of sixty seconds, second plane flies into
the building. And then you're like and I'm like, I
it was confused, right, you just are not that. I
didn't drink or anything before. I just was confused, and
I'm like, well what, So I said, well, let me
call you back, and I hung out the phone, turn
that sound up, like what's going on? And then your

(01:13:07):
phone gets text message and from work and when you're
going in, here's how come on in. We got to
talk about how everybody's going to handle this, and it
was I'll never forget it because I still was like
what And then you start to hear this plane's in
the air and then in Pennsylvania and it was just
it was and like I said, far people, far more
people were affected. We all were, but far more people

(01:13:29):
were affected because it directly related to their family member.
And it's something you should never get over. And it's
the emotions so rampant. It just it's just hard for
me to believe that somebody would waltz in and do
that in our country and think it was okay.

Speaker 6 (01:13:45):
Certain things happen in life that I mean, they're just
they're burned in your brain and yesterday will be burned
in your brain for a long and sadly, and their
kids kids, you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Just can't get rid of it. And I mean it's
just I mean, just thankful for people you have. It's awful.
If you still got your parents around, just thankful for them.

Speaker 6 (01:14:14):
I mean, if you've got kids, be thankful for them,
Be thankful for your heroes, be thinking of the people
who I mean, even all these years later, it's you know,
you know they tell you all the time when you're
going through grief, that time will you know heal all wounds?

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
It doesn't. You just you kind of learn how to
deal with it. That's tough.

Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
But anyway, just God bless our heroes and please please
never forget about this day. Sean Salisbury show Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
Let the celebration start or Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
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Speaker 6 (01:14:51):
I hear someone ask a question about losing the first game,
and oh, you weren't going to be the seventy two Dolphins.
You know, it's only one week all of that, and
the it's just like, Okay, we get it. Yes they're
going to lose games. But I think it was just
it was more than anything, it was just kind of
a continued frustration of the way things were last year

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carrying over in the same issues hurting this team, and
I guess a little bit of fear of anticipation of
is this our life now?

Speaker 9 (01:15:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Well, and you're talking listen, you're not going to go
I mean, how many of we play play seventeen now, right? Huh,
that's what we do. Obviously rhetorical, But they did get
beat last week by a really good football team. Correct, Yeah,
that's that that can't be lost. While there's a very
but a one hundred percent agreement here is the fact

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that they lost. It is how they got that loss.
It looked way too. Matter of fact, if I'd just said, hey,
this is twenty twenty four, what would you have said, Well,
why isn't tunsl plan right? That she said, because everything
looked the same, struggled offensive line moving around. I don't
like a rookie being your swing tackle as a rookie
trying to learn a position. He got him at two
different ones in his first game game right, defense looking

(01:16:12):
like they look a few self and you know, guys
run through getting open once in a while, but they
can fix that this. I'm not concerned about the defense
running the ball with lack of physicality and quite frankly,
Nick Chubb had to bring his own blocker and he's
physical enough to do it. Not enough big plays. It
looked early similar in certain games last year. Yet crazy

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thing about they're in the red zone, chance to win
a game and laid it on the ground. But we
could say that about a lot of teams. Well, if
this guy kicks a field goal, then Cincinnati's a win won,
meaning Cleveland has says, you know, has taken care of
their business, but their kicker misses a couple and so
you can say about everybody, But the truth is you're
trying to get rid of. And it's the way when
you lose the same way, and the penalties, questioning what

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practice was like, not big plays, quarterback happened to to
move a little sooner than he wanted, not getting your
best star on offense, meaning you know Nico Collins involved,
all those things. It looked in the sports term of
eerily similar to what we saw last year, and which

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would mean you would expect a bigger game from them
this week against Tampa, and I doubt you're keeping them
out of the end zone. I expect a much better
game from them. Their defense is too good to flounder
at all. And they only gave up fourteen points to
the best to maybe the best team not named Philadelphia
in the NFC. And some would argue better when they're right,

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which is a hard argument at least to make now,
so that it looked bad the loss in it given
if it was, you know, if they lose twenty one
to seventeen, you're like, okay, but they lost in a
way that they lost plenty of times last year. Nine
points isn't going to beat many people men neither. It's
just kicking field goals.

Speaker 6 (01:17:55):
I got a final question about Demico Ryans that we'll
cover here as we get into the eight clock hour.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
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saturdays and studies get up put the spread. It always

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Speaker 6 (01:20:20):
The only bad news is the Mariners and the Rangers
both win yesterday. So Seattle just staying a game back
and Texas two and a half back in the Al West,
and the Texans going to get back on the practice
field getting ready for the Bucks on Monday night over
at NRG Stadiums. We're talking right now if you want
to get in on the Texans conversation seven one three

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two one two five seven ninety and the other day,
I think I did a good job with both on air,
in the head and home video of I'm not advocating
that Demico is in trouble or he should be, or
any of those things.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Let's not get ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (01:20:57):
The man's won two straight divisions, he's won two straight
years of playoff games, ten wins in both of those seasons.
I mean, we're really kind of I wouldn't say that
we're crying from the yacht because we're not on the
yacht yet. We're we're on a nice enough boat. But
We're not completely on a yacht. You get on a
yacht when you get to the super Bowl. You get
there when you win the super Bowl. That's when you

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can start seeing that the Texans have done anything but
that at this point. But it is kind of one
of those things that the two things we covered of
the penalties and also the you know, just overall, Demiko
are excuse me CJ. Shroud saying yeah, we didn't practice
very well last week. As a matter of fact, our
preparation was not good. Those two things.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
I just want to know how that happens. And that
leads me to the third thing here.

Speaker 6 (01:21:43):
Because I feel like every single head coach that fits
the bill of Demico calling plays, they run into this
at some point where eventually, as a head coach you're told,
or at least you learn on your own, you tell yourself,
I got to give this up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Are we possibly looking at where.

Speaker 6 (01:21:58):
Demiko Ryans after this sea and is going to have
to say calling plays in being the head coach is
too much. I need to have somebody here that I
trust that, yeah, you are involved in the game plan
all of those things, but in terms of executing it,
that guy's got that well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
The problem is, and here's the crazy thing about you
hire guys, do you trust right sure to be your coordinators?

Speaker 6 (01:22:22):
I would say that, I mean at least you trust
them from their body of work, because I do think
that's sometimes having a you know, hey, I worked with
this guy is a good guy. Give them a shot
even though you didn't directly work with them. It's a
tight enough community.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
That, Oh, most coaches are hired because of familiarity, not
because you didn't know them and they went through an
interview process and wowed you it had That does happen
because of a suggestion from somebody else should work with.
But a lot of guys will always lean in any
walk of life to people they may know or that
have been productive and that they know of work with
the past. Okay, And if you're making those decisions to

(01:22:54):
be able to bring somebody like that in with this
case with Damiico Ryans, Listen, everybody's not Andy Reid. Does
make no mistake Eric being to me he didn't call plays. Ever,
Matt Naggie doesn't call plays, and never they're there helping
and assisting and formational and all that. Andy Reid's been
the play caller while he's been the head coach since
he's been there, and they've had great success, and so

(01:23:19):
we can't. It's like when we compare every young quarter
he's not Patrick Mahomes No kidding, really, what a shock.

Speaker 11 (01:23:25):
Just like this.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
You can't be a play caller and think that you're
gonna have the success continually. But the reason why some
find it hard to give up is the very reason
they got the job in the first place. In the
most cases, regular rarely, like a John Harball who was
in a special teams coach in Philly under Andy Reid,
he got the job of Baltimore's head coach. That's usually

(01:23:46):
not the way it goes. The special teams guy, you
know what he usually is. He's the interim coach. At
times it takes over. It's rare that you'll hire a
guy from there's just been a special teams coach that
takes over as a head coach. Normally it's a position coach,
but more often than not, it's a coordinator. So what
is what's Ben Johnson known for? Oh, no doubt and

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call it some good ones and it you got to
be it's a special kind why because and it happens
on all teams that on the practice field, you'll know
if if I'm coordinating the defense Demiko Ryans on the
practice field, I've got to be with the defense the
whole time. Now during special teams, you're walking around seeing
both sides special teams, but you can't be two places

(01:24:30):
at once. So you got to either trust somebody to
call the players while you're the head coach, or you
gotta trust it you're gonna call the plays in it.
Somebody else on the defense or on the offensive side
is making sure that you trust that offensive guy. And
yet he's trusting a rookie play caller. So that's that's
that's hard to do because you're calling him on defense,
and then you get to a point people will start
to say, well, is he is he too spread too thin?

(01:24:53):
Call him the plays. Happened to be the CEO and
oversee all those things that come into play when you're winning,
nobody has a problem with it when you are losing.
Mike Holmgren was the head coach calling plays in Seattle.
I'll never forget Stuart Scott and I were sitting on
the set one night after a game and Stuart teed
it up and he said Sean Mike Comer I said
when Mike Holmgren, I wish we had the cut now
when Mike Holmgren quits, he was not the play call

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He's always been the play GM and head coach very similar,
and just give you an idea, he was both. If
you remember in Seattle, he gave up the GM duties
the next year they were in the Super Bowl. Because listen,
he's a football that's too much to what happened here
to Bill O'Brien got too much power. The thing that
got Bill O'Brien hired was his play calling, an ability

(01:25:37):
to coach ex'es and o's. He got here and we
found out a little abrasive and power hungry. Then adds
more to a schedule and he can't do it and
they run him out, and then he got more power,
and it's like you forgot why you got the job.
And that's why for Demico or Billy Napier, Billy shouldn't
be calling the plays right now. They have struggled since
he's been there calling the plays. And DJ Lagway's a

(01:25:58):
good player and he won't give it up. Why his
comfort zone is play calling, because that's how we got
the job at other places. They hired him because he
was a really good play caller as a coordinator somewhere else,
or a head coach calling place at a smaller school.
So for me, at some point time, you'd like to
think that, yes, now, some may never give it up,
but you've got to be really special to be able

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to be a dominant play caller and still not lose
sight of the fact. On third and one, are we
going forward? And oh, that's right, I'm getting my defensive
group ready, but offense we have the ball. I'm your
head coach if you want to be Eventually, what happens
if you don't do it right here or anywhere else?
You go back to being a coordinator on another place
because you got fired as a head coach. So it's

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a unique situation. I subscribe to the fact be an
expert at one, not kind of good at both. Andy
Reid just happens to be an outlier. Most eventually get
to a point where it's like you got to turn
it over to somebody eventually, or you go back and
some miss the interaction in the film, they just do Dan.

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I talk to guys in at the think tank. I
went with like twenty defensive an offensive coordinators in Florida
two years ago, just talking film. I told you about that,
Kurt Warner. We just for a week we ate sat
on the beach talk and watch film. Drew up everybody's
West Virginia, the Southern everybody with a different idea, laughing
and joke and say, you guys can't run RPO and
here's how we defended. And it was awesome. It was

(01:27:23):
freaking awesome. But to a man, when you talk to them,
you know what they missed the most when they were
head coach and why when they go back to being
it they kind of like it more. The daily interaction
as the head coach. You don't have the daily in
the meeting with the fellow's interaction. You kind of oversee it.
Pop your head in here, run practice there. So you
got to be unique. So yes, to answer your question,
I think at some point you've got to prime somebody

(01:27:44):
to trust enough that says who thinks like you but
actually sinks outside the box too. You don't want an
exact clone. You want somebody who's like, Okay, I want
to add a little bit of my flavor. The challenge here, though,
is he's calling defenses, so he's got to do two
wear two hats, and he also you know, he's a
one truck, and he also has a rookie offensive coordinator.

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So that's that's a very slippery slope to be on.
You'd almost say, man, if I am not saying that
Nick Kyley's not going to be great, but you could
see first game jitters like a first game player that
close to the vest and they didn't get it. Now
getting one game against the team just nasty the Rams.
So I just for me, I'd love to have two

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coordinators that were awesome like Philly. You don't think Siriannie
wants to call plays. I'm sure he did because he
cut his teeth being a guy who knows how to
call him well, he went and hired the great defensive coordinator,
got Kellen Moore. That's what got Kellen Moore the job,
and he's going to call the place for now eventually.
Like I said, you've got to be a special cat
to do both at a high level. And there's only
a couple of them McVeigh and and Andy Reid, even

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Bill Belichick in the second half that was not calling
defenses in New England. He trusted Mayo at one point
he trusted other McDaniel. Obviously McDaniel's on offense, so Romeo,
Romeo Crenell and Charlie Weiss on offense. You get to
a point where it's like because he needed to maxify
as being a head coach. So I just I get it.

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But at some point in time, you got to trust
somebody enough and then you can take it back. You
gotta trust somebody enough to take that off your hands
if you're the head coach.

Speaker 6 (01:29:20):
It's one of those things you wonder if something's been
uncovered when it comes to the Texans, and we'll discuss
that here as we continue the conversation. seOne three two
on two five seven ninety against someone three two on
two five seven ninety. It is the Shawn Salisbury Show
here on a Thursday Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Salsbury.

Speaker 7 (01:29:40):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
Chicken palm. I don't think a subway in Russ the
RUSS sub no, he because remember in the commercial he's chick. Absolutely,
And now you got Eli doing Danny DeVito Mike lies Eli. Yeah,
that's pretty clever if you if they're there's only three

(01:30:03):
people doing commercials nowadays. Yeah, it's it's Shack, Peyton and Eli.
Other than that, anybody else doing it advertising it in.
But if you want your brand to change, like literally overnight,
just call up Sydney Sweeney and she's she's to make
the rich in the three posts. Yeah, but she's not
sports so she might as I mean, big sports fan,

(01:30:26):
no doubt, Yeah, no doubt so yeah, huge sports fans. So,
but the Mannings and Shack, they've got the whole fucking covered.

Speaker 6 (01:30:34):
I've said it numerous times that you cannot go a
day without hearing or seeing Shaquille O'Neal.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
I'd say that's probably true, even when he's not on
the commercial. Yeah. Now the new is it Draft Kings
they do Kevin Hart and Lebron James when they're redoing
the old touchdown from Tennessee when they you know, the
Music City, Music City Miracles and they go in there
and they're sitting and Kevin r to ask if you

(01:31:01):
break down the game, and Lebron says, well, he goes
it was what he say, it's epic or so he
didn't say epic, but said something, and Kevin Hart said,
that's that's it. That that that's a bit. That's it.
He goes, he looks over like the producer and says, hey, man,
is Shack available. He's just Shack available. Man, he might

(01:31:22):
have said, but because Shaq would have said he was
and they sayd and Lebron start laughing. But it's true.
He just gave him one word analysis and Hard looks like,
that's it. That's what he got, his shack available. And
it is so true. Even when Shaq's not on a commercial.
He's on a commercial, right, and you know what, I'm
sure they say, hey man, you might well use your

(01:31:42):
name doing Sure, that's another million, just a bit. That's
the funniest. Yeah, that's the funniest part of the commercial
is a Shack available. Lebron goes, are you serious? He goes, yeah,
at least Shaq's gonna give me this, this, this, and
then heart starts imitating him. So yeah, it was classic.
But you're right, hey, Shaq, did you do a commercial?

Speaker 10 (01:32:02):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
Day No, but they didn't mention my name in the commercial.
And I probably got paid good money for that too.
Let me check with my accounting department. You have a department,
not just a person. Yeah, that dude can move product
like no other right now, Dude, He's incredible. Yeah, I
love him. If you had the money and wanted your
product moved, the shack's the guy to call.

Speaker 6 (01:32:19):
And I can tell you from personal experience, takes care
of people, what takes care of them.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
I think that, and you know what, I am convinced
he does not do it to get a pat on
the back. I am convinced he does it because I
think the guy is a twelve year old man. He's
just a child man. He's a big child. I mean
that affectionately. He's the largest human being you will ever
see in your life. That's a fact. You've seen a
person you're like, like, you know, it's bigger than him.

(01:32:46):
Great kawi. Oh yeah, I was on a flight with him. Dude.
I went from standing next to Baseli at the other game,
who's standing next to Anthony Munjos And you're like, damn,
I'm a big dude too. And I was like, I
was the Kevin Hart of the go at six five forty.
And then you go to Bisselli, who's bigger than me,

(01:33:06):
and then Munos is bigger than Besselli, And then stand,
this is the truth. To dude, is one, two, three,
four wards. They have those eyelides of a game. And
then there's Shack and you're like, well, the fact that
he can set a drink on all of our head
number one, but also is just big. If you said
who was the All American left tackle and a Hall
of Famer, Shaq would have been a guy you'd said,
Munios will look like the tight end. Now with all

(01:33:27):
the way BISSELLI probably my outside wide receiver and me
still trying to get him the football. But Shack and
then on the on the longest yard, then I saw
Kyle Wee, the great cart and the nicest human being
ever did when he shakes your hand, his hands the
size of a foam finger shakes your hand plus your forum.

(01:33:49):
But I'm telling you now, and I'm like, he big hands.
But he it was as if and he shook my
hand when I first met him, and he grabbed it
with two hands really like gentlemen and really really right,
like as if to say, if I decide to squeeze,
you'll probably die. I'll cut off all your your veins
and your audition on the table. And it was so

(01:34:11):
it was a meat hook. It was crazy. And he's
just dude. At that point in time, he's about four
hundred yeah and about eight percent body. Fact, Hey, where
do you end?

Speaker 10 (01:34:22):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
How much taller are you? The long stringy hair? And
I thought nobody's bigger than Shack until I ran into
this cat and he makes Shack look like a point
guard and it was just weird. But getting back to
I think Shaq, who's such hiy. He got that childlike
life right and he's loving it. I got a place
to be everywhere. I love him because I do think
he cares about people. I don't think there's one ounce

(01:34:43):
of racists in him. I don't think he cares about it.
I think Shaq is about his lack of judge and
now he'll be honest on the set. But when it
comes to people, I feel like Shack's the perfect representative
of how you're supposed to just kind of be man,
help others, give where you can give, try to help
lift people, protect the people that are in your life
that you need. Just everything about him, I think he's fascinating.

(01:35:05):
I love him and he was I was great engaging
conversation when I met him, and he makes you feel
like you're a friend, even if you're not. No, He's
got a unique ability to make you feel great. Even
if you just met him, he engages with you like
you've known him for thirty years. I think he's one
of the I love I do. I aside from him
as a Laker, what I love Shaquille O'Neil because I

(01:35:28):
think he treats everybody good. Now, he made sure that
he make sure Robert Griffith to start talking to and
and I imagine and I haven't seen Robert make a
comment about it since, but I think Shaq's I think
Shaq's type of guy. Griffin went up to him, sad,
my bad that he'd hug him and say, okay, young fella,
just protect the way regardest to be like her. I

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think Shaq would. I think he's got a huge heart.
I think he's he's the twelve year old. He just
is the twelve year old guy who's kind of got
some mama's boy and him. But he was like and
he wants to do everything, and I love it.

Speaker 6 (01:36:02):
So the place I used to work at in Atlanta,
he used to come in and record his podcast there,
so that's how we would see him quite a bit.
And our studios were right there outside the Braves Ballpark,
so game days, I mean, how you're gonna hide Shaquill O'Neil.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
You can't hide Shaquill O'Neil.

Speaker 6 (01:36:17):
But we would try to tell him, hey, we can
send somebody to go get your truck, because it was
that monster truck he had with the Superman logo on
the front. We're like, we can send somebody to go
get it and then bring it around the side and
we can get you out the back door that way.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
It's quick. He goes, no, I'm good and sure enough.

Speaker 6 (01:36:32):
I mean he goes out there and of course you
see him and immediately you're like, oh my god, that
Shaquille O'Neill mobbed took care of everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
He's everyone phenomenal human being.

Speaker 7 (01:36:42):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
I just like I said the time I met him,
and I just I felt like he's you made him
once and you feel like, hey, man, i'll give you
a call next week. We'll play golf. That's how you
feel about the guy. So but if you need a
he want to do a commercial, and you know you're
going to get a guy who's into it that you'll maximize.
It feels like Shaq doesn't want to rip anybody off

(01:37:02):
when it comes to you're gonna get maximum love from
him with moving Now, it's gonna cost you, I'm sure,
pretty pity, but I believe it's worth it. And I
think he's a phenomenal guy man, I do. And he's
such a just I feel like he's got the heart,
matches the body.

Speaker 6 (01:37:18):
It does it does you know? Top shelf, he's the
best big fan. Absolutely well. I get back into the
Texans conversation someone three two on two five seven ninety
against someone three two on two and five seven ninety.
Is the Texans get back on the practice field a
tone setter?

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
Do they need one? Maybe Tamiko Ryans as an answer,
we'll discuss the Seawan Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 6 (01:37:43):
If you're playing on a Thursday, It's one of the
weirdest things covering an NFL team where if your team
does have that quick turnaround and they got Thursday night football,
they'll usually have like a Monday night practice and then
Tuesday and then they're off Wednesday because then you you know,
you gotta cram everything in and you know, the whole
ten pounds five pound bag kind of thing. Well, a

(01:38:04):
little extra practice day, but the week just bumps up
a day. So on Tuesday was when Demiko rans met
with the media, and of course that's the first chance
after CJ Stroud made his comments because CJ talks after
the head coach after games and mentioning what CJ said,
Dimiko asked about it's and of leadership.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
Who who is.

Speaker 6 (01:38:27):
The one that kind of drives the bus when it
comes to practice a tone center, if you will. This
is what Demiko Ryans had to say. It's never an
entire group, that's the.

Speaker 8 (01:38:37):
One thing about it. So they're individuals that have their
have their moments throughout the week. And the lollygagging, it's
a term everybody want to use now it's it's uh
for me, it's just our temple right in and out
of the huddle, right, we got to get in the
in and out of the huddle quicker so we can
get to the line of scrimmage so we can operate
and make sure we got checks and things we have

(01:38:58):
to make at the line of scrimmage. Well to make
those checks in a proper manner, right, we got to
get out with some urgency. So the urgency piece from
everybody has to pick up from the offensive side of
the ball, right, the urgency picks up and we'll be
able to operate cleaner when it comes to pre snap
and postmip.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
Does that necessarily inspire much confidence with you? Well, right
now he thinks his team's lolligagon on offense. Okay, Well,
the same coaching it allowing it to happen. Yeah, And
the question is how hard is he coaching on the
practice field to make sure that they're not lollygagging on
Wednesday so it doesn't carry over to Sunday. Right, you
can tell it's a point of contention with him. But

(01:39:41):
unfortunately or fortunately, however you want to look at it,
he hired them. So if it's the players, which that's
where that leadership comes in. Where if you're on a
team that's filled with great leaders, the offensive coordinator, the
head coach don't have to tell you about tempo.

Speaker 6 (01:39:58):
Like Michael Irvin going to the Jim Johnson with a
list of players and saying, these are the guys that
have to go.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
Yeah, and Jimmy listening. But that sense of urgency to
where guys like Michael Irvin, I've had this conversation with him,
dude said, it's fascinating listening to him talk about what
practice and training camp was like, or Aikman explaining who
the guy the tempo setter for practice was for them,
and we think, well, was it Aikman of that or

(01:40:24):
the d No, it was Michael Irvin and he not
willing to accept mediocrity. Hence they have great players. See,
they worked like a team that didn't have great players.
As hard as they partied and had fun, they played
just as hard in practice. They didn't mispractice, dude, They
went did their thing, They had expectations, everybody knew it.
And then Michael show up and take care of his

(01:40:46):
business and make sure everybody else did and grabbing people
bad back of the jersey and saying keep up. That
was basically what it was. And when you have great
players and trained always say it, play like a starter,
trained like a backup, meaning you want the job, so
you're not willing to stop training to catch up. And
when you get in there and play, you play like
a starter meeting I'm here to keep this. And the
Cowboys did that as well as anybody for that period

(01:41:08):
of time. Well, in this case here is that Demiko
Ryan says, two, now you're talking about hats defense head coach,
and now you've got to deal with tempo. It's it,
and it's my I'm telling you coaches for me the
same way, And Danny Green hated it. Of showing up
and kind of slogging through practice temple, you'd have bad practice,

(01:41:30):
but the tempo, get in out, give yourself a better
chance of the line of scrimmage to see checks and
audibles and get out. He's right, But my question is
how hard is Domico And I'm sure he is, but
how much he's got to coach the coaches? How much
pressure is he putting Nikko? Get their ass in and
out of the huddle. We're not rerunning plays, so they
better be on the right tempo now and we'll correct

(01:41:51):
it after practice. Get going, and you know what it
says in hour in forty five minutes, Denny Green wasn't
going an hour and forty eight if we had to
here pissed to get them going. And you could be
standing right there and be the guy who who was
sluggish getting out of huddle and the coach standing next
to you. You know, Danny say, he'd look at the coach,
So you better get these guys going. You knew the message.

(01:42:13):
You sent it to the player, but you also knew
the loud message. Listen, you're you're held to the standard
of you're at. They're gonna be as much as good
as you tell them to be when it comes to
playing quick and playing playing with tempo. So I don't know,
And that's the only thing I hate is that I can't.
We can't put our finger on it because not tangible.
But when you watch performance and then hear the coach

(01:42:33):
and here CJ. Stroud, it can only tell you they're
they're uh, they're not getting practice in the way they
want to, at least that first week. That will have
to change. They're not good enough to practice bad and
go kick ass. Maybe the defense is, but you can
tell and remember the head coach defense. Was there any
mention about the defense on there? No all offense? Right,

(01:42:56):
So which to and you want to guard against if
you're de Mek anybody else, of pitting both against each other,
because right now it appears that just from that, and
I'm team Dimiko, don't misunderstand me, it appears from that
that he's saying, my defense is playing with their hair
on fire. I need my offense to match that they're
getting lined up your damn right good and they make mistakes,

(01:43:16):
but we're hitting somebody that's moving and on offense, if
I can't get to my checks, then I'm late. And
if I can't get through my checks, then I'm running
up hill and running into a strong safety blitz er
not prepared for a four off the slot, and before
you know what, you're playing hurried. And as an offensive player,
hurried's a bad it's a cussword. So they've got to
fix that or they'll take more than one ass whoopan well, I.

Speaker 6 (01:43:37):
Mean, and it gets back to what we talked about earlier.
This isn't against Nick Kyley. I don't have any doubts
that he can do that. You do, You have doubts
because you saw them, because I have doubts because I'm like,
what was the rush? Like, why did you have to
hire him? You had Chip Kelly out there, you had
other people who have had tons of experience calling plays
and are respected around the league, and this is a

(01:44:00):
coveted job that was out there that you didn't need
to just go and get.

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
Hey, we might have found the next first guy that's
a McVeigh or Shanahan guy. This isn't a.

Speaker 6 (01:44:08):
Training ground, man, Listen. Your team is not the team
that needs to be the training ground. If you were
a team that went from two wins last year, then maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
You can do that at Kansas City though too, you
can because there's such a flowing machine. Eric Bannamy goes,
Matt Naggie's airb enemy comes there, takes over. Then Naggie
comes back, and benam he's gone, and Mike Kafka's you know,
is the offensive coordinator with the Giants calling in place.
So it happens. But you're right about that. But here's
the deal. It's not even a Nick Cayley thing. It's

(01:44:38):
the experience thing. It could be any name with experience.
They went from rookie to rookie hiring. I'm talking about
Bob Slogan in a second year didn't get done, so
aswell kept him. Listen. And I think we're premature to say, well,
Nick Cayley is just like a player, let's let it
play out. But if you're getting the same doing the
same a month from now, we're saying this same thing
about practice and aggressive and Sundays, then it's a experience issue.

(01:45:04):
So Nick Kayley deserves a chance to let's go see.
But I think all of us are like normally, when
you have inexperience, you go to experience. Like I said yesterday,
if your experience, maybe say I'm gonna try somebody. Let's
get to a younger, fresher one in here. The problem
is calling the play caller and defenses. I don't care
if you're a ten year guy or rookie. They understand

(01:45:25):
how to attack weaknesses and they will find it quick.
These defensive coordinators and offense courts are way too smart.
So Nick Kayley, it is a it is a it
is a an art to be a play caller. I'm
just telling you it is.

Speaker 6 (01:45:37):
The comparison is in the neighborhood, but it's not one
hundred percent on the same level because Dimiko is not in.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
Danger of going anywhere.

Speaker 6 (01:45:44):
But Gary Kubiak his defense that was that was perceived
to be a blind spot for him. What did he
finally do going into the twenty eleven season, because he
came off of very disappointing twenty ten he had to
fire Frank Bush.

Speaker 1 (01:45:57):
What did he do? Well, you know what he did,
get a guy that you trust, not that he didn't trust.
Frank Push. He had to get a guy that that
you know can handle it without you having to babysit
him every practice. His name was Wade Phillips. Absolutely the
Hall of Fame. Wade Phillips is if we put coordinators
in the Hall of Fame, he's on the first list,
so to me. And that's that's the thing. It's hard

(01:46:18):
to go back to back with young guys that and
like I said, it doesn't mean not that smart or
not going to get it, but you've got to be
good enough to be able to withstand the early barrage
of first time play caller to get him through it.
And then truth, he's been a passing game coordinator and
he's been a tight ends coach and those are really good,
but it's not the rhythm of a play caller, and

(01:46:41):
he's still trying to figure out what he's got. Six
weeks wasn't enough. And I know he was here in
the offc but you know when you put the pads on,
it's different. So of course, giving him a chance and
you saw something in him, but there is no doubt
what he saw in him, too, is we don't have
to change the verbiage. We'll be able to adjust quickly.
And secondly, is I trust the staff. Did Sean McVay
and Kyle Shanahan produce So I'm gonna look there first.

(01:47:04):
And Nick Cayley obviously interviewed well, so I hired him.
Now all that's out the window. Nobody cares. Now you
got to you got to show up and get the
most at him. But I despise, not that I despise
anybody who comes to practice and it just kind of
flops around and you can get the feeling during the week. Dude,
I'm telling you've seen it. Like we went to Tampa.
We went early to practice there one year from Minnesota.

(01:47:24):
Jerry Burns didn't like practicing the cold, so we was
like November, so we went Tampa. Dude, I'm telling you.
It was a business trip, but it felt too casual.
We were a far better team than them. We went
in there and got curb stopped, I mean and Barren.
It was twenty seven to twenty or whatever. Felt Yeah,
it was, yes, but it felt you know the old berman,

(01:47:45):
old skull sombrero. Is it felt like we got creamsicle jersey. Yeah,
we got beat worse than we did, right, but it
felt like it because and you could feel it. Dude,
football make you feel that way. I feel it's like
we should have stayed home and practicing in the cold
and been that grunt. But it felt too country clubbish
and it's soaked in and you've blinked and they came
out like we're kicking your us and they did and

(01:48:08):
that wasn't like us. And you learn the valuable less
that way. But I'm just telling you most teams aren't
good enough to practice crappy, you have bad tempo and
still play well.

Speaker 6 (01:48:15):
They got to pick it up. It's not a question
for now. It's way too premature. But you know I've
said it before show of honesty here on the Seawan
Salisbury Show. If we get to January, the end of
season and the offensive issues are still the same way,
I will be in that room asking Tamiko Ryans, then
why not go get an experienced guy that knows how
to handle this. What you don't want is a third

(01:48:36):
one in two years because of the people start looking
at you.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
Well, don't they have to? Well, if Nick Cassario misses
on a third coach, he's not the GM anymore. Think
about that. And he's been really friggin good got great players.
He's got him. He's been outstanding here. Had he hired
one more coach that was here two years and gone
three coaches under his watch athletic directors. Head athletic directors

(01:49:02):
don't last through that, and neither do general managers because
they are directly tied to what you do. Fortunately, he
got one that was different than the other two, you know,
a little younger and not that and love he had
his run. David Cully was a little bit over his
head as a head coach, to be kind, but a
good assistant. You need those guys. Wasn't ready for guy
and Lovey. The game didn't pass him by, but how

(01:49:23):
he went about Lovey is great to have on his
host part. Point. Yeah, he wasn't being a head coach.
The energy had to change and they went out and
did it. No disrespect to a guy who had a
great run, but you needed a change. Now it falls
on Demico's shoulder to get the right coaches that he
can trust that can handle their group. And the Texans
offense is going to have to play better because they

(01:49:44):
want to go where they're going to go to the offense,
I can tell you right now when the season's over,
how you're going to be talking about the defense top
five defense in a league period, as long as they're healthy.

Speaker 6 (01:49:53):
All right, So let's switch up the conversation just a
little bit, because I never thought that these words would
be uttered out of my mouth. Is a legend here
in the area? A trader?

Speaker 10 (01:50:02):
God?

Speaker 6 (01:50:03):
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Speaker 6 (01:52:03):
We got real quick here and we don't do a
ton of NBA around here, Sean, But this isn't really
an NBA topic. I'll just go ahead and read the headline.
Victor wmbin Yama is now working out with a Keem
Elijuan in an effort to become the most dominant basketball
force known the man so a man who plays for
the Spurs and shashack a. Keem has worked with players

(01:52:26):
of the past. I mean he worked with Kobe, he
worked with Lebron. I think he worked with Jannis too.
So I mean he is known for being a personal coach,
like kind of like your quarterback coach, kind of like
that for NBA players who some of them want to
work on their post moves.

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
Whatever it might be.

Speaker 6 (01:52:44):
You know, one of the guys that was known for
having the best feet work of anyone on the floor,
you go work with them. But if you're a team,
I mean almost like on principle alone, Hell yeah, do
you have to say, hey, yeah, I can't do it.
Hey Dave, David Robinson's around, you know you want to
work with him? Absolutely not, you do exactly what he's doing.
I understand your point. I know it's kind of tongue

(01:53:05):
in cheek at the same time. But if a guy's
getting recruited by UCLA and signs with the UCLA and
I'm training him, I'm gonna keep training him, and I'm
gonna train him to beat usc Any offseason. Now, I'm
hoping he throws for four fifty and usc wins career.

(01:53:26):
When you step inside the colise, that's the sixty minute
ass whoop, And I want you to have handed But
I hope you throw for four fifty, no doubt. Now,
I always say you want to put me on retainer
usc every guy trade filter your way, great, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
Even know if you're allowed to do that. I don't
think you are. You don't, well, it's costs me a
chance to work because I was training, school was recruiting,
so I get it for me, right, But you know
what the truth is, you're just trying to make and
with a transfer portal, dude, you could be having one
guy who you trade to go to UC. The next
day he's at your campus playing for yours team across.
The most ridiculous part of all is it's a joke.

(01:54:03):
So you're really not trading to get your school because
inevitably eighty percent of a million up somewhere else anyway,
So you traded to be and you're trying to help
the kid keep playing. In this case dangerous because if
wenbin Yama has two ears in one mouth, then uses
them accordingly and it is healthy. And you got the
best big man footwork guy that's ever played now against

(01:54:24):
Michale was great footwork in the low block, phenomenal, for
there's nobody better on both ends. Not only to teach
intensity and how to play, but his footwork with the
ball in his hand or out of his hand was
a guy five and eighty pounds.

Speaker 6 (01:54:40):
When I'm talking about Elijah, when you go back and
watch the footage, you're just like, how the hell.

Speaker 1 (01:54:45):
If he puts a lot of time in and Elijah
Wan is there with him often. I am just telling
you that you don't want that big fella in San
Antonio if you're playing to learn the stuff that Elijah Now,
Elijah w One's a fre okay, this is dere now
women yam is too. So it's it's it's it's perfect
because athletic can get up and down the floor like

(01:55:07):
you know, dream can and could looks like he still
got eligibility. Left said yeah, I'm just telling you if
if he catches on lookout, it's it's I don't understand
why more people don't do this. I've always said if
I'm a rookie quarterback cam Ward Shouldere Sanders, I don't
care who you are, or if you're Bo Nick's second

(01:55:29):
year guy, Drake May. I'm calling up Peyton Manning, Kurt Warner,
Eli Manning, Tom Brady, I don't care who Drew Brees, David.
I'm calling them up. It's not just to train them
on the field to you know, mechanics. I am calling
up because you got money. I'm calling it braid and
say listen, man in the summer, can I borrow you can?

(01:55:49):
I can I fall shatow you for two weeks. Well,
you know I want him to say, are you out
of your mind? Dude? Two weeks you try because most
guys are receptive to you asking for help. Why wouldn't
I just I've never understood why go with it alone?
Get rid of your ego? Okay, you're the first pick
of the draft. You want to stay the first pick
of the draft and play like it. I got a

(01:56:10):
good idea forget just the training's one thing, the mechanics.
An hour with Brady is like one hundred hours with
somebody else in an apprenticeship. But you hire him and
pay him now he may not even want to pay him.
Say let's walk through, dude, just to say, twice a
week can I watch tape with you this offseason? I'll
come to you, I'll fly in. I'll pay you five
thousand bucks a day because in the end the contract

(01:56:32):
is going to even be better for you. I just
don't understand why you wouldn't want to go and say,
if Peyton Man's willing to watch tape with me once
a week in the off season, that's worth my flight
in and out. Hell, I'll get an off season apartment
where he lives just so I don't have to fly
in and out. A lot of the young guys aren't married. See, dude,
I just the investment in you is one thing. But

(01:56:53):
if you can have somebody assist you along the way
like that women Yama, hell I had to chase Dream
down to pay him? Would it take to get it?
He's got plenty of money, So why don't you get
the expertise from a guy who knows? And it's the
same thing with these I just don't get it. I
don't get why you wouldn't lean on somebody who's quite
frankly known more better, been through it and trying to

(01:57:16):
give you the same knowledge that would cost a corporation
one hundred thousand dollars to hire for an hour. But
you know, when it comes down to ego, well I
got this. I'll put my time in. But it's different,
and I've sat listen, sitting next to Warren Moon watching
tape is different, and you learn from that. Why would
you do it alone? If you got somebody willing to

(01:57:37):
help the ego will all do this myself? And usually
when you're doing it yourself, eventually you hire somebody to
help you get better. Either by necessity or does Scheffler
have a golf teacher? I've heard that, Yeah, did Tiger?

Speaker 4 (01:57:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
Nicholas? Yeah, how about that? So now you're getting one
of the best athletes in all of basketball getting trained
by the best foot work, best some argue, the best
big man. He's in the conversation in that team picture.
I'd do the same thing if I was him, And
it's worth the investor. You invest in everything, want to

(01:58:11):
invest in yourself and dreams a good place to start.
Play like a starter, prepare like a backup.

Speaker 6 (01:58:17):
Like you said, let's get back into the astros because
maybe this guy is not necessarily the hero we want,
but maybe he's the hero we need. We'll discuss here
at nine o'clock hour, Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (01:58:29):
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Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
Dan Matthews.

Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
This is the Sean Sells Very Show, so usually Thursdays
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Speaker 6 (01:59:11):
Courtesy a car Bock Brewing Chris Gordy is here, but
he's working. Remember quit, did he? No, No, he didn't quit.

Speaker 1 (01:59:17):
He's working.

Speaker 6 (01:59:18):
I mean I would say probably right now, let's see
if he Yeah, I mean, if he and the lady left,
Let's just say about an hour ago from where a
in Beaumont. Right now, approaching Beaumont, I'd say, i'd say
they're about annawhak and he's probably got us on and
I'm sure probably here in just a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
We're gonna see the hot line, you know, ring and it's.

Speaker 6 (01:59:36):
You know, yeah, guys, uh, approaching Lake Charles right now,
gonna stop at Darryl's Pool.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
Boys, you don't get get to that. A little popular place.
It's a great place. And what did you say, Ana?
What what do you say?

Speaker 7 (01:59:47):
Bo?

Speaker 6 (01:59:48):
Is that a city? Yeah, like a little town is
just outside Beaumont. Yeah, it's probably about thirty minutes outside Beaumont.
It's my dad's from Golden Triangle. What's up? Represent Yeah,
like like like stee like a s. Jack says, you know, pa, representer?

Speaker 1 (02:00:03):
When I enter? Do you like to represent?

Speaker 11 (02:00:05):
Well?

Speaker 1 (02:00:07):
Yeah, well, I mean I guess I gonna say, I
guess my dad I do? What do you call it
osmosis or through it's just it's just part of the DNA.

Speaker 6 (02:00:16):
And I guess it wouldn't be by proxy because he's
my dad. So yeah, I guess osmosis away from each
other and still got still still got.

Speaker 1 (02:00:24):
Family in the triangle. Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 6 (02:00:26):
Cousin in Nederland got uh aunt and uncle, and Beaumont
got got some aunts and uncles out in Orange, it's
up shout out four o nine.

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
Any good golf courses out there? So yeah, that's all
I have to asked, is there is very good sunset.

Speaker 6 (02:00:41):
Sunset Grove in Orange used to throw a Labor Day
golf tournament every year, and it's a Donald Ross design course,
Donnie Ross. But so there was a really rich family
in Orange, the Stark family. Starting to sound like Michael Berry.
I'm sure probably somebody's gonna tell me close friend. Hey, Hey, Mike,
you know Michael They're they're they're talking about Orange, Texas well.
Better give him a call, Ramon. But yeah, they used

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to throw this tournament every year. My dad would play
in it. And I'll and I'll say this too, the
simplest foods are always the best foods. There was this
guy who every year would grill sausages behind I can't
remember what the par three was. I think it was
number eleven or number twelve, but he would grill sausages
and people would come by, just get a piece of
white bread, piece of sausage, some mustard, and then go

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to the next team.

Speaker 1 (02:01:28):
Spicy mustard, and it's like eat it on the car,
drive right right, regular yellow little frenches.

Speaker 6 (02:01:33):
Yeah, a little frenches. Throw that on there, and then
get right to your next shot. Like dude, I mean,
I probably.

Speaker 1 (02:01:42):
It's why I drive, man stop in places like that.
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 6 (02:01:45):
So that's that's the thing is is my trips to
Baton Rouge are always I've got a place going and
I got a place coming, and it's both right there
and like Charles Daryl's going steamboat bills on the way back.

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
Nice you got it? Yeah, no, I do. I have
to check in with you on that, dude.

Speaker 6 (02:02:02):
That's why, honestly, I mean, part of the reason that
that I do choose to drive places is because of
that very reason.

Speaker 1 (02:02:10):
Absolutely you miss out on when you're in the sky. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, what do I care about?

Speaker 11 (02:02:15):
You know?

Speaker 6 (02:02:15):
Hey, can I get a bottle of water. Yeah, there'll
be eight dollars. Let's get you that quicker cool awesome?

Speaker 1 (02:02:20):
Yeah great.

Speaker 6 (02:02:21):
How about I stop at a place where I can
get this some jerky, a brisket, sandwich, many other things.
You think, po boy guy massive if it is a
sandwich of any kind, yes, it's me Poe boys. You're
a cold cut guy, are I will absolutely take it.
You throw some salt, pepper, some oregano, some oil and

(02:02:43):
vinegar on there. Let's go lettuce to thin slice tomato.
It's gotta it's gotta be the tomato is. Especially sandwiches
like Philly cheese steaks.

Speaker 1 (02:02:56):
There's a reason. There's a reason why I got up
to three, bill. I don't think you know anything about
a Philly.

Speaker 6 (02:03:01):
Now we're now, we're on now, we're on the elevator down.
So there's less sandwiches right now, which is fine.

Speaker 1 (02:03:06):
Yeah, I don't think you Philly. I don't think you
like sandwiches. Did you just not hear or see how
I see through the radio? I think it's all optics. No,
it's not. It's not even told. You told Tripley the
other day you couldn't stand cold cuts. That is not true.
I never said that triple he is gonna pack me
up on that. You hate enchiladas, you hate cold cuts.

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You neither of those are true. You said Margerita suck
not true. Said barbecue is your worst food in the world.
I mean, I can't believe you said all that stuff. Barbecue. Yeah,
and I thought you were a big j barium guy.
I'm a massive guy. You kidding me?

Speaker 6 (02:03:42):
And as soon as I saw Hoffey post that yesterday
with the Mediterranean bowls, I was like, you got I
gotta give me one. Damn right, I'm gonna go get
me a Mediterranean bowl. You know, I like, I like Euro,
but I mean you throw a brisket in there, brother?

Speaker 11 (02:03:55):
Good?

Speaker 1 (02:03:55):
Euro? Is that bad?

Speaker 11 (02:03:56):
Brother?

Speaker 6 (02:03:57):
So like the buddy of mine that I worked with
in Atlanta, his brother had a phu and a barbecue
place and he unshed a pa like you know, I
mean foe, yeah, foe Yeah. But he's pronounced the fu
are you talking about? Pronounce is the way it's pronounced.

Speaker 1 (02:04:13):
I've never heard anybody in the history outside of somebody
that may live in a foreign country called fu. It's
pronounced Are you talking about it?

Speaker 4 (02:04:21):
Really is?

Speaker 1 (02:04:21):
Yeah? I call it foe. Okay, I'm phonetically correct. It
looks like a p h O to me. So anyway
does it look like? Does it look like? And if
it's fu no put intended. I'm not cussing with you,
but wouldn't it be. You don't say kung fu fighting.

Speaker 10 (02:04:35):
Do you?

Speaker 11 (02:04:36):
Well?

Speaker 1 (02:04:36):
I mean no for that one you say kung fu? Okay,
So oh, it's that Houston thing kirkandall doesn't have an
R in it, but we call it kirkandal well and
a humble is spelled um b l e apparently without
an ah.

Speaker 6 (02:04:49):
So you're telling me that it's called fuh well, probably
around these parts we call it foe. I mean, just
like I've said with Spanish words.

Speaker 1 (02:04:56):
Yeah, but you get mad at the people going to
broadcast and they're given American americanized podcast. All of a
sudden they mentioned especially yeah, man, he ran a stop sign.
They had to stop and take him away, and his
last name is Sanchez or anything that you got to
roll a castillo the way that you would talk. But
that's but that you drive you craziest. That's what it does.

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And now you're all of a sudden you on here
not a soul understood and you said, Oh yeah, I
mean I love I love a sandwich and some fu.
And that's why I said, what the fu are you
talking about?

Speaker 6 (02:05:26):
Well, he merged Q along with the first part together
for the name of his restaurant, so we don't have
to say it out loud. But it was kind of
a play on words. I like it for where we're
going to eat at. But it's fae, but you call it,
you call it pha. Yeah, so you call me sean.
I want to go get some fu. Talking if I

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want to eat soup, then I know that I'm eating soup.

Speaker 1 (02:05:52):
Do you call it pizza peas? I mean, what do
you call it? Pizza? Pizza? Pizza are a pie? Either one? Right,
that's that's what I go thin crust only crispy. You
need to need it, Chris formal, Like you're from that
part of the world. You've played the funk hard on us.
I almost said. I was like, oh no, yeah, stay

(02:06:13):
foe so I could stay away from get in trouble
with what I said.

Speaker 6 (02:06:17):
What I said about Spanish words in Texas like, probably
a good idea for you, but.

Speaker 1 (02:06:21):
How do they do it? Yeah, because I'm in you know,
from ESCO. So we were substantial. Like I told you.

Speaker 6 (02:06:27):
You know, one of your buddies out in La I
was listening to him once and he called it Blanco Texas.
And I was about to message him and say, brother,
here's the thing. In Texas, we say Spanish words, but
we see him as white as possible. It's Blanco Texas,
San Felipe sand Phil.

Speaker 1 (02:06:43):
But see if you asked me, I as white as
possible is saying blanco right, not blanco. I don't call it,
but I've never called a blanco all my life. I
just call it. Where are you from? Blanco Texas?

Speaker 7 (02:06:53):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:06:54):
Who are from there? I say you're from blank? I
say you're from white Texas. It's like Mitchell Tenpenny, the
singer I called it Mitchell died. I mean, I'm just
trying to make and break it down the smallest fraction
possible works, right, you know? And if you're I'm truly
humbled by it, as opposed to humbled.

Speaker 4 (02:07:10):
See.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
So I just I'm I don't keep saying perfectly that
was really good. You keep saying fun dude, I'm gonna
finish it because I'm gonna be pissed off. As I say, Man,
I'm gonna go give you a bull. Well, I met foe,
So there you go. That's your style.

Speaker 6 (02:07:25):
It's like in Austin, you know, the street itself is Manchaka,
but they just call it Manshak. So I remember somebody
telling me once, yeah, it's right off Manshak Road, and
I'm like, hey, brother, like I'm not seeing the sign
for Manshack Road, and he goes, oh, yeah, well because
it's Minshaka, And I'm like.

Speaker 1 (02:07:40):
Why didn't you just say that?

Speaker 6 (02:07:42):
Yeah I don't because I'm looking like for like the
freeway exit signs right there, and I'm likely correct, and
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, all right, I'm thinking
I'm gonna see Manshaq Road. Like I'm driving around Detroit.
It's gonna say eight mile road, so like you know
it would say that on the sign. Yeah, I'm not
in Austin.

Speaker 1 (02:07:59):
I I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:08:00):
You don't speak fluid Austin, No, you and Austin's not
even Austin anymore anyway. Every single time I go there, man,
I'm like, this thing is turning the only not disdain.
I'm just saying that. Like people now have like an
image of Austin. It's kind of like when you go
through a breakup, you're missing a projection of what he
or she used to be, not who they are.

Speaker 1 (02:08:20):
It's like going through San Francisco now right, it's not
the same the charm that is there. They've got to
fix it a little bit, and I can get it.

Speaker 6 (02:08:26):
Probably, like we were talking about la earlier, probably next
time I go to l A, I'll be like, all right,
I get it now. I understand why people leave this place.
I understand why people think it sucks.

Speaker 1 (02:08:34):
Right, I fail you dog some fu huh. Yeah, I
like your style. I'm gonna get to that one Poe
Boy place you talk about.

Speaker 6 (02:08:42):
We're doing it. I'm in, We're doing it. We're going.
I'm in halopenium, halopeno mayonnaise too.

Speaker 1 (02:08:47):
I'm in. That's dude, when it out slaps some mayo
on your hips, I'm in. Damn right, let's go anyway. Yeah,
I get back into the Astros conversation. H Ryan will
get you involved.

Speaker 6 (02:08:58):
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Speaker 6 (02:10:55):
That was always my dad's thing every single day is
go go get him a sandwich somewhere. And I remember
once off they rushed to the radio and then off
campus lunch. I remember once you know, I happened to
run into my dad as he was out in the
parking lot. Somebody goes, hey, and that your dad, and
I was like yeah, and I went knocked on the window.
I was like, Dad, what are you doing? He was like,
seat my sandwich, listening to Rush.

Speaker 1 (02:11:15):
So everybody's got their thing, whether it's reading the paper,
listening to Rush, whatever, meet playing golf whenever I can,
hitting golf balls in the living room and breaking window
dom kidding.

Speaker 6 (02:11:26):
Well, I mean, you know, it's your house. You're allowed
to do with it whatever you want. Not a wise move,
and it's usually not good for the resale value. Good point,
you know, unless unless you're good at drywall all that
kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:11:37):
The d I wire on the drywall. No, I'll pass you. Thanks, Yeah,
I don't. I don't have that thumb unfortunately. But yeah,
talking strows, talking Texans too. As we've gotten through both
of those here on this show today, Ryan and Montgomery
wants to wag and Ryan, good morning, good man man.

Speaker 12 (02:11:57):
I was gonna talk about the Texans that you got
me ready run through a brick wall, Dan, I lived
in or I lived in Lake Charles for a little
bit in Lafayette Darryl's. I would eat Darrel's every day,
the specials.

Speaker 1 (02:12:09):
With Mayo Brother oh Man.

Speaker 12 (02:12:13):
So, Sean, if you haven't had Daryl's. Drive drive two
hours just for that sandwich, and then if you after
you really love it, order another one. Get in the car,
drive to Lafayette and go to Bunk Pons and get
crawfish enchiladas. It'll change your life. And then see a
Rage and Cage's football game.

Speaker 7 (02:12:28):
I'm all want to come back to second.

Speaker 1 (02:12:31):
Find a good golf course along the way. I'm in, brother,
I don't don't have to ask.

Speaker 12 (02:12:37):
Where I lived at in Lake Charles behind my house
of the golf course, and we would sit out there
drink beer and watch golfers play, and then we would
go to Daryl's. Eat, come back, mess around, maybe go
to the casino. Leave the casino, go back to Daryl's
because they also have these batty waitresses that all go
to McNeice. Darrel's is the spot. You gotta get the
Darrel's special Jalapeno mayo with the with the gravy and everything.

(02:12:58):
My god, it'll change your life. But sorry, I was
going to talk about Texans. But yeah, man, how do
you feel about the round?

Speaker 1 (02:13:05):
How do you feel real quick about the Texans start.

Speaker 2 (02:13:09):
This one game?

Speaker 12 (02:13:10):
I think that was a very winnable game. It's sad
that they lost, but it's game one. I think, you know,
they'll make some adjustments. I believe in Jamiko Ryans, I
believe in the team. I think it'll be okay. I'm
not going to overreact over week one.

Speaker 6 (02:13:26):
There you go, appreciated, buddy. Glad I could take you.
I'm glad I could take you there mentally at least today.
But uh yeah, shout out cowboys too. Right there in
Lake Charles, I guess maybe maybe the last time I
went to Darryl's.

Speaker 1 (02:13:38):
I was I must be missing out on something. Yeah,
it was. It was a long night the casino. I've
only been to Lake Charles to do one thing. Let's
go gamble at the casino. Okay, Well, I mean you
know we can take that. I just haven't done the
other stuff, which.

Speaker 6 (02:13:50):
I need to take a small break go over to
Darryl's and from there like a mile Yeah it's not
even that far.

Speaker 1 (02:13:58):
And then you know with uh, Louisa, do you ever
call D's no, D's nuts Darryl's. Yeah you forced that, Yeah,
of course I did. But were you ready for it?
I blocked you, Okay, just making sure you see you've
been easy to get lately didn't.

Speaker 6 (02:14:13):
It didn't pump fake me to get me off the
block like you. You went up and just tried to
go with the full shot.

Speaker 1 (02:14:18):
It was one of those I give you the the
Angel Reese triple pump and then I hit the bottom
of the rim.

Speaker 6 (02:14:22):
Yeah, yeah, I was. I was following. I'd watched film,
I'd seen it, study some tape.

Speaker 1 (02:14:27):
Yeah I had. Yeah, I knew not to jump into you.
Sometimes you just gotta, you know, take the d's nuts
jokes and run with it, you know what I mean. Sure,
sometimes a square, a peg, round hole.

Speaker 6 (02:14:38):
Sometimes though with it it's well, I mean that's fine.
It's it's one of those that you just kind of
have to like lob the grenade and then just deal
with the consequences afterwards.

Speaker 1 (02:14:49):
So my best time when I get you between like
six and seven thirty, when you're on a subject you're
passionate about that, I can slide that in there. Oh yeah,
I could pull the okie dock on you. You know
what I'm saying. Yeah, you do the Europodope, Well, every
now and again you got to state but still stick
and move. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 6 (02:15:05):
No, you can get me off off the jump something
Destros won't lose again. Ooh, okay, sixteen or seventeen straight. Sixteen,
Now we're down sixteen, right.

Speaker 1 (02:15:16):
So then Dana comes on with us and says, three,
I told you, I told you what we were gonna do.
Sixteen straight and they don't lose a playoff game, and
they win the World Series four to zero. They don't
lose the rest.

Speaker 11 (02:15:25):
Of the year.

Speaker 6 (02:15:26):
So then is there a way that we can pitch
Jason Alexander for every single game because seemingly he's.

Speaker 1 (02:15:30):
The comber is going to throw a no hitter before
the season's over? Oh wow, yep, okay, dll no, no, no, no,
I'm letting you roll. Yeah, they're not winning them all.
I'm just trying to throw it out there, you know, win.
I'll be great though. But if he did, I mean,
at nine to twenty seven kind of prediction, would that
be the hell it is?

Speaker 10 (02:15:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:15:50):
I mean, because do you imagine that they went on
like a twenty game win streak and then carried it
into the Milwaukee Brewer to everybody this year with fifteen
sixteen in a row, that would be awesome, and then
get in the playoffs and roll. That would be awesome. Phenomenal.
I love it. I'm trying to because yesterday was a
rough day. Today is a rough day for a lot
of people, and for all of us it should be.
But trying to find it and you get the astros

(02:16:12):
when it almost feels I almost said, I know that
we shouldn't because people need it, but it almost feel
I almost feel guilty talking sports today, I really do,
and to try to add light and make people smile
because today's a miserable day for a lot of people.
It is hard day.

Speaker 10 (02:16:24):
No it is.

Speaker 6 (02:16:24):
I mean it's always yesterday, but it's also too I mean,
in two thousand and one, what what brought us back?

Speaker 1 (02:16:30):
No, there's no doubt. That's why I'm saying. People need
to hear it. But it's okay to laugh here. On
a matter of fact, you've got to almost force yourself
to find something, and there's a lot to be grateful for.
Quite the opposite is that we are here fortunate enough
to watch how we're honoring our people and you weren't
there that day, you know, but never go away. It
just it's you know, it's tough. So almost at these

(02:16:51):
times you're like is it appropriate? But then again, we're
sports and people too to have some laughs and maybe
get a little shed a little light on something. It's
a pretty miserable couple days when it comes to our country,
really is for sure, for sure. But hopefully we can
bring some light to you here on the show, and
that's what we aim to do.

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For the Shawn Salisbury Show continued. Chuck Eddley's two time
winner the Circa Invitational and one of the sharpest betters
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didn't get in the end zone. He's back again this
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my man. So let's start this week off first with
what's the favorite player? What are you seeing as we
started off, my man?

Speaker 7 (02:19:32):
Yeah, appreciate it. You know, it's good to start off
with the winner. You know, this is this time of year,
you know, as you know, I love it because after
Week one, so many overreactions the public, the press, they
all tend to overreact to some of these lines and
the way they're way over adjusted. You know, there's lots
of value out there. I've got three plays this weekend,

(02:19:54):
so they're all built around flated numbers, and you know,
I've got a game going on here that I feel
is an over you know, an example of one of
those overreacted games. You know, last week the New York
Giants were plus six versus Washington. So now after a
rough first week for the Giants, they're plus six again

(02:20:17):
versus Dallas. And listen, we all know that Washington should
be rated higher than Dallas. So you're telling me why
they were plus six against Washington. Now they're plus six
against Dallas. Obviously an overreaction here. This is a game
where the Giants did start off bad again. You know,
they kept the game closed for a little bit, but
they offensively, they struggled, and this this line seems to

(02:20:41):
be a good line now to take the dog here.
You know, Dallas themselves got a lot of love because
they almost beat the Eagles. So even though the Eagles
were definitely shorthanded on the defensive end, but Giants defensive
line here should dominate the Cowboys offensive line. Plus the
Giants they should move the ball much easier versus is
a weeker Dallas defense. So I think this is a

(02:21:02):
classic example of the market not adjusting properly. And again,
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Yeah, and it's a max wager type game tonight for you. Chuck,
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Speaker 10 (02:21:43):
Chuck.

Speaker 1 (02:21:43):
Before I get the question too, let me add, just
for overall, like in your career, how many hours a
week do you spend studying this stuff?

Speaker 7 (02:21:52):
Pretty much during this time of the year and the
basketball season, I'm pretty much about twelve hours a day.
On a Wednesday, which is a little bit of a
slower day, I work about five or six hours. That's
kind of family day. And then but put a lot
of time and effort into it. And you know, you know,
the information is out there these days everybody. You know,

(02:22:15):
it's depending on how hard you want to work and
how you find the information. So it's not as easy
as it sounds. Is a lot of work goes into it, no.

Speaker 1 (02:22:23):
Doubt, and that's why you're good at it and been
dominating for a long time. You mentioned over adjustments, so
you've been doing this a long time. We know that
in your track record obviously speaks for itself, and you're
one to zero on this show. An example maybe of
what kind of adjustment you're talking about when.

Speaker 7 (02:22:40):
You say that, well, you know, for example, like the
Giants game that we were speaking of. So so let's
say the Giants Week one, we're plus six points at Washington. Okay,
Now we know Washington is rated higher than the Dallas
Cowboys on the power you know, on the power numbers,

(02:23:02):
you know, and even maybe even from the its coming
into the season, I would assume you would thought Washington
was better than Dallas as well. However, they were getting
six versus Washington. Now again, now this week they face
Dallas and they're plus six again. So that basically what
they're telling you, which we know I don't feel is true.
Maybe somebody else does. They're telling you that Washington and

(02:23:24):
Dallas are rated equally or obviously they're also telling you
that the Giants may be dropped on, and maybe they
raised the number on Dallas because Dallas did look good
against the Philadelphia Eagles, even though you know they were
a little banged up defensively, but Dallas could have won
that game. So I think, you know, you know, everybody
I think makes a mistakes. This happens during the season

(02:23:45):
as well. Too many people tend to look at the
previous week instead of the whole you know, the whole season,
and I think a lot of times there's things that
could take advantage of Because of that.

Speaker 1 (02:23:56):
I always wonder what would happen and what the line
would look like if Jackson Dart was starting in little
more energy for the Giants, and maybe we'll see that
this year. So let's be clear. You got the that
that game circled obviously the Giants Cowboys, but you also
have a huge play going tonight and you said, like
a Max wage or so, let us what tonight tell
us about this one?

Speaker 7 (02:24:15):
Yeah, so there, you know, tonight we got the NFL game.
I also got a couple of these plays. You know,
the same thing happens in college football, the overreactions in
the lines. I've had a big play Saturday. I've got
one on Sunday, and anybody who wants those plays, all
they have to do is called the one eight hundred
eight zero eight three four eight one, or you can
just go right to chuckwins dot com. And this is

(02:24:38):
a really strong player going for me Tonite in the
in the Washington Green Bay game.

Speaker 1 (02:24:43):
And you can get all that Chuck Chuck atle by
the way, Chuck wins dot com expert at doing this
will be with us every Thursday at nine thirty, so
set your clocks by it to get these plays. So
you can get all that with just one call to
eight hundred again one eight hundred. Let's make sure we
get it one eight hundred eight eight thirty four eighty one,
or go to chuckwins dot com so all that will
come with one phone call.

Speaker 7 (02:25:04):
That's correct, You just have to call, or if you
just log right in at chuckwins dot com and the'll
direct you how to get that. And that's for the
game this evening and then also a college game Saturday,
in the NFL game Sunday. I feel like we have
an advantage on all three of these games.

Speaker 1 (02:25:18):
Everybody loves to hear that you'll get all three plays
Tonight's game, Saturday's over Adjustment, playing Sunday's Winter all in
one spot one call eight hundred eight oh eight thirty
four eighty one, or go to chuckwins dot com again.
That's eight hundred eight zero eight thirty four eighty one
or Chuck wins dot com. Chuck, great stuff, man, great insight.
Look forward to next week and when we get you

(02:25:39):
on here, it'll be four and oh by then, and
everybody will be happy because we like winning, and I
know you do too, So we'll look forward to next
week's conversation. Brother, Thank you, appreciate, thank you, great stuff.
That's Chuck Adell. We'll come back. And I said a Dell.
I always want to say Adel. It's not Adel, Chuck Edel.
I feel like tomato tomorrow. I'm sure an right, I
go by sALS, some say Salisbury. Either way, it's Chuck Edel. Regardless.

(02:26:04):
Alls you need to know is this first name Chuck
wins dot com. It's Dan and Sean. Come right back.
As we wrap this up, we'll kind of give you
a little bit of a plethora, and obviously those that
are struggling today, hopefully you can put a smile on
your face somehow after always a tough day. On September eleventh,
ste Talk seven ninety, I am a dip guy. You say,

(02:26:25):
Sean will kind of dip. Well, I can tell you
what kind of dip. Daisy French onion dip and the
daisy ranch dip. Now I am. I'm like the finger
food appetizer chips, you know, throw a fredo in their
chips to get the dips. Sometimes to the point on
college game day or during saturdays and studies, get up
put the spread. It always has the daisy french onion

(02:26:46):
dip or the daisy ranch tip. Was in the local
grocery store over the weekend picking it up, and why
because well, the other food's fine and dandy later in
the day, but in order to get you through. And
don't you do it on holidays too. You do it
on Labor Day, you do it on holidays. You do
it sports and it's sports season. This is this is
daisy french onion dip and ranch dip time a year, right,

(02:27:06):
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(02:27:29):
Saturday and Sundays or any other day of the week
doing what really is the strength of a meal, my
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Daisy ranch dip. I can go to my refrigerator and
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a grocery store near you. This is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 7 (02:27:57):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 6 (02:27:59):
Those early nineties Blue Jays teams, they were they were
hell to pay.

Speaker 1 (02:28:03):
Yeah, rocket wasn't half bad either, was No. No, the
rocket was up there worked out well.

Speaker 6 (02:28:07):
Texan's gonna get back on the praxe field getting ready
for the Bucks on Monday night.

Speaker 1 (02:28:11):
And don't forget.

Speaker 6 (02:28:12):
Tomorrow night TDCU Stadium, Houston Cougar is gonna take on
Coach Prime and the CU Buffalo's Colorado coming to town.
Coog's looking to start three to OHO for the first
time in a decade, and Coach Willie Fritz he's got
the program rolling. Don't miss out on the Hispanic Heritage
halftime show performed by the Spirit of Houston Marching Band.

(02:28:33):
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that's sub one three. Go Coog's see double Ogs to
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Speaker 1 (02:28:48):
Come early, be loud.

Speaker 6 (02:28:49):
We're red tailgating gonna start tomorrow three thirty uh and
cee U tomorrow from right there in third ward looking
forward to it and looking forward to the Astros game
to say afternoon. Sean is mentioned where yesterday I said
this earlier that Joe Espada maybe heard you and listened
people saying not only move Jose Ltov. He even had

(02:29:12):
some calls of people saying get him out of the
lineup right now, and he did that last.

Speaker 1 (02:29:17):
Night, and I don't believe it was a physical day.
That's just me scheduled day off. Scheduled day off is
I'll try to tell you. I think I think yesterday
was a mental scheduled day off because the guy is
going through the you know, squeeze the sawdust out of
the bat type situation. I don't die, I mean he's

(02:29:37):
I don't think it's because Jose is tired. I think
it's because he's been grinding a lot and struggling that
some days, the mental days are far more important than
whether you like it or not. The mental day sometimes
can be better than the physical day because at this
point you're working on adrenaline a lot of times anyway,
because then the point we are in the season, you
really don't have time to be tired. It's the mental

(02:29:57):
the mental approach. Wouldn't be shocked if he's going to
line up to day.

Speaker 6 (02:30:00):
In Homer's that's usually his m There's two tells that
he's he's really struggling, he's up against it. One is
the wild swings, which he's a free swinger as is,
sometimes he gets away with it. The other is trying
to lay down bunts when you see him try to
do that, You're like, you're not seeing it.

Speaker 1 (02:30:17):
Well, that's right now. I'm sure the feeling is that's
the only way he's getting back to ball, and he
feels like he's trying to hit an aspirin right. Yeah,
it doesn't look like a beach ball, that's for sure.
So I get that mental date. I hope there's not
many more of them, because in truth, when he does
get hot, it's almost like he can close his eyes
and hit it anywhere. So you're hoping you get that back.
But I understood they found a way to pull it out,

(02:30:39):
but we don't need many. Hopefully that their mental acuity
is at the rights place right now, so they're mentally
focused and can overcome a few mistakes. But then jose
Al two, they'd be nice. He hasn't been hot in
a while. It'd be great to get him rolling because
I think the rest of the group kind of feeds
off his m.

Speaker 6 (02:30:54):
One hundred percent days energy, and we've seen it numerous
times in the past where he starts getting going, then
you know everybody else. I mean, that loosens up Christian Walker,
who he needs it. That loosens up Jake Myers last night,
bases loaded, chance to be able to again blow the
game open, and then you get.

Speaker 1 (02:31:12):
They missed some opportunities last night Dan one more for
eight with runners in scoring position, and that happened.

Speaker 6 (02:31:17):
I was watching it. I was over at place in
the woodlands. Some listeners recognized me and came over and
said hello. It was like, hey, what's going on? They're like, man,
these astros, I go runners in scoring position?

Speaker 1 (02:31:27):
Huh been some tough sled, needless to say an absolute
other statement. So they I mean as good as they
you know, is the way they closed it out mean
and get it done. And as good as Alexander was
last night, they still left a bunch on the table
that probably shouldn't have been as close as it was.
But it was the timing of the hit that was

(02:31:47):
huge last night for Deals.

Speaker 6 (02:31:49):
Oh man, massive, Where you get that in the ninth
and then you know you had the carea home run
earlier in the game. They left seven on base, one
for eight with runners in scoring position. Some one, Big Jay,
he wants to get in here, Big Jay, what's going on?

Speaker 11 (02:32:06):
Good morning, guys, Happy Thursday. Man. I was just listening
to the show. I'm pressure washing day off today pressure
washing my pop sidewalks and driveways, and y'all were talking
about Lake Charles and then where to eat? Where to go?
Wife and I are taking a trip to Lake Charles
ryder Cup weekend and I'm like, I plan my vacations

(02:32:28):
on where we can go eat, right, So I was
happy to hear that.

Speaker 1 (02:32:31):
I believe it was Darryl's is where I need to go.

Speaker 6 (02:32:34):
Darryl's and then Steamboat Bills. Those are my two spots there.

Speaker 11 (02:32:38):
Okay, all right, that's where we're gonna go. We're playing
contraband golf course, and I was looking for places to eat. Man,
so now now I know where to go. So that's, uh,
that's very appreciative. And I will disagree on y'all with.

Speaker 1 (02:32:52):
With y'all on one thing.

Speaker 11 (02:32:53):
I'm a flyer so that I can fly to the
location faster to get where I want to go eat.
That's the only thing. I know. Driving is a great thing,
but man, I want to fly there so I can
get to all the restaurants and when I plan my vacation.
But just had to drop that in. I know, it's
a tough day, it is a new day. That's what
I look at and y'all been doing a great job

(02:33:13):
sending out the positive vibes today, so I want to
thank you all, ghostros and Man. We'll get into this
later and maybe Monday, but prime time Texans games always
scare me. Just saying yep, you'all have a great rest
of the week and can't wait for fights on Friday.

Speaker 6 (02:33:29):
There you go, brother appreciated, Big Jay Jay awesome. Now
a man after my own heart, because I mean that is.
I've often been made fun of for you know, Hey,
we're gonna go to this place for dinner.

Speaker 1 (02:33:39):
We're eating breakfast. Well I don't care, We're still going
to go there.

Speaker 6 (02:33:42):
Yeah, like you know, Yeah, I've got things planned out
and then looking at the menu ahead of time.

Speaker 1 (02:33:46):
I don't want to waste everyone's time. I want to
know what I want and what to get, and planning
vay cases around good restaurants is part and parcel to
a good trip.

Speaker 6 (02:33:54):
Shopping and eating are both the same thing. I need
to have a plan. I need to know I go
to the grocery store, I've got my app.

Speaker 1 (02:34:02):
You'll let you know. Yeah, So that way I'm not
to go when you go. Oh man, those chips look good.
Oh that looks good too. That will be one hundred
and twenty dollars. The hell? So you are you are
a planner for the grocery store. Yes, you got your
list guy, strategical list planner? Where is George W told
us strategicy? Do you do itinerary for vacations? No? Okay,
so you can fly off for food for food, for food.

(02:34:24):
The guy who has like restaurant reservations, like for five
straight nights type of Yeah, you're you're I like it.
So you're the guy that if we're going to plan
everything to put it all together, you're the guy to
come to because then here's what happens when you don't
plan for it. Then it's Hey, there's an olive garden
around the corner, which I shouldn't I shouldn't name names. Yeah,
but I mean, you know, they're talking about places that
you can go anywhere as the things.

Speaker 6 (02:34:44):
Being built for the locals. Thank got it, Like you know,
hey there's this place around the corner, and it's just.

Speaker 1 (02:34:49):
Like I do everything I can to stay to get
something unique and not go to a place I can
get right outside my door in my home. There you
go whenever I go out of town I'm with you.
There and there all sounds like a good place to start,
damn right, you know it. If nothing else we learned today,
Daryl's Poe Boys, Lake, Charles, Yes, the spot all right,
He's Sean Triple, Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews appreciates everybody hopping

(02:35:10):
aboard with us today The Matt Thomas Show with Ross.
They're working until one what anyway? Shock ya? Yeah, exactly?
Country club.

Speaker 6 (02:35:18):
That guy hasn't that. That guy has the nerve whatever,
you know what, he's gonna be here. We'll talk to
you in twenty hours. Shawn Salisbury Show,