Astros Tie Series with Yankees, Astros Lead in AL West Increases, Chuck Edel Joins 790!

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewan Salisbury to usc trop longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan matthewscu. This is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hammers a data left hand.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
You can kiss it goodbye off the community leader side
and it's four to two New York Hanya ghoste for.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
The fifteenth time this year.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
Here's the one. One pitch hits it the other way.
That's a base it. It's fourth knock. They're gonna send Melton.
Here's the throw in he said, we're tied. Jordon goes
to second base on the air throw Albarez four for
four and the Astros come back to tie.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
In the three to one inside and low ball four.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Astros take the lead on the bases loaded walk as
Terrey and Trot's home five to four. Houston, oh one,
and that's hit through the right side of base hit.
Sanchez scores, Walker stops at third. Jereby Painia's second hit
in second RBI of the night, six to four.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
Houston has a bullet the other way.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
What a swing by Paynia.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Here's a one one that bounces in there gets away
from Wells.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Kangaroo's back to the screen.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Another run comes home as Tremel crosses the plate and
the Astros lead is eight to four, and it's all
coming undone for the Yankees. Here in the bottom of
the eighth, three to two, Bellinger hits it deep to right.
It sends back Sanchez at the wall and it's gone.
A three run homer for Cody Bellinger and the Yankees

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get to within a run. It's eight to seven Astros
three to two. Strike three, call slider on the outside
corner and fact is the ball. It got interesting, but
the Astros hold on to defeat the Yankees eight to seven.
As the Astros even up this series at a game apiece, and.

Speaker 7 (02:16):
They needed all eight of those runs. And with that
we say away we go in Good morning here on
the Sean Salisbury Show as Robert Ford fills the in
on the conclusion of last night's game over there at
dyke In Park. A huge win for the Astros. Not
gonna say much needed, because well, Tampa Bay helped you

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outside of Arizona again, but it is nice to be
able to finally capitalize on your opponents in the West
starting to fall back a little bit. But with that
win last night, the Astros now four games up on
Seattle and five and a half up on the Texas Rangers.
And I mean just this was a game that kind

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of had it all too. I mean, this was a
game that had early offensive struggles. I mean, you get
a hit in the first inning from your Don Alvarez,
then after that you really don't muster any type of
offensive attack until the fifth inning when you finally get
the double out of Jiner Diaz and then you get
him home on the ramoniu Reus sacrifice fly. But then

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the Stros for the next four innings would proceed to
score the seven other runs that they needed. And Sean
as I mentioned too, I mean it was one of
those that you don't get even that last one on
the pass ball, then you are sending its extras and
even with the Yankees bullpen, with this Astros lineup, it's

(03:41):
kind of like, all right, well, hey, they got you
seven runs. It's kind of on you. Now you're the
one that needs to figure this out.

Speaker 8 (03:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
From the fifth inning on, they were pretty special.

Speaker 8 (03:48):
Man.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Offensively, they did some great things. It started out and
you're like, oh man, that's gonna be one of those
where they're not putting the ball in play, and then
all hell, broke loose and they execute hit. The ball
of pain was, you know, a base hit the other way.
Was really a great, great piece of hitting. I know
that sounds like such a baseball ternam, but it really was.
And you know, Jordon was on. I think we've come

(04:10):
to the conclusion that Jordon's fine. Okay, just now you
can play him every day. And then you've proven that
the guy you know, four hits and hit the other
one to you know, excuse me, ten feet to the
left and he's got five hits left of the second
basemin and right of the second basement on his final
at bat. But yeah, that, uh, it was. It's impressive

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because the way it started and the way it ended,
and you know, it would have been easy. I'm sure
the fans in the ballpark. It wasn't in the ballpark
because I got into the lull of saying, oh, down again,
now you got to chase but an incredible resilient effort
to chase it down and beat a good team and
take care of their business. And they took care of
their business late, and as you said, they needed every run,

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but it was and that eighth inning, you know, put
it away, and fortunately they were able to close it
out after the three run Homer Bellinger. But listen then,
I mean that's one you needed eight instead of three,
and you got them, and it could have turned out
a whole bunch different if your offense, you know, heading
into the fifth inning or around. It was just kind
of stayed floundering around. But they had some really good

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approaches at the plate after that and then and got
it done. It wasn't pretty, but offensively it looked better
than it's looked. I mean, you can see where they
can go with it if if everybody's getting into the act.
Good at bat by Christian Walker to draw a walk.
Was that in the eighth inning as well? I think
it was just start to jump around and think about it.
But they and be able to get help from their

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friends now and increase the lead. It's a big one,
especially after the night before and all the controversies around it.
And I will say this and talking to and watching
yesterday from er Valdez lost a lot of respect around
Major League Baseball. The clip well, I mean I'm talking
about from guys who've been in the batter's box on

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the mound scoring. He lost an extreme amount of respect
and to me liking you were thinking you're a great player,
a great talent. It's one thing. When you lose respect,
it's a whole different ballgame. I think he lost it
locally and nobody was buying the excuse. And when Dana

(06:19):
came on and explained that he's competitive and and and
he is competitive, and those things happened with frustration, and
that's that's what it was. This was now it was miscommunication,
but it was miscommunication on the catcher thought that that
was that was not by accident, okay, and it was
obvious and around baseball, dude, and looking into comments from

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guys who played a long time and have a much deeper,
longer resume than him, it was a he lost a
lot of respect because everything you just that's your own dude. Man,
you lose respect if you don't throw at somebody else
who hits one of your guys and your teammates are
you know, you better go all Bob Gibson Don Drysdale

(07:03):
on him, because that's what you do to protect your
team to his own guy, And it wasn't an off
speed pitch to his own guy, Cross. It was fastball
right in a gut. So regardless how you feel and
how you think and competitive, and Dane is right, he
is competitive, but he's also an emotional child when it
comes to some things like this. He's lucky he didn't

(07:24):
get an ass whooping. He is, but I will tell
you this, in a big win last night, the hidden
part of this is he did if respect matters to him,
he lost a ton of it around Major League Baseball
yesterday he did.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
I mean, it's just you know, some of the antics
and even when he's not pitching, you know, the Julia
Morales getting peanuts from the fans and all of that,
Like it's just all of that just doesn't even matter
anymore because of what he did the other night. I mean,
I think for the most part, the fans are overhim,
and I mean there were unconfirmed reports out there about
how it was handled in the clubhouse. But Sean, I mean,

(07:57):
you know, just kind of piggybacking off what you were
just saying right there. I mean, Aj Persinski, Eric Kratz,
Kratz straight upset it. He goes we get back to
the dugout, We're going into the hallway. We're fighting, yes,
like I'm fighting you. And the point too, that was
brought up, and I think it was brought up by
Kratz of just the low hanging fruit right there. He's
not gonna do that to Yiner. He's not going to

(08:20):
do that to Victor Kartini. He's doing it to a
guy who's barely hanging on to a job at this point.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
That can do nothing about it, right or he's the
odd man out.

Speaker 7 (08:29):
And I mean, you know I said this during the
whole cheating scandal and the aftermath of it is, of course,
you know, everybody wanted their pound of flesh. You know,
Nick Markakis, those guys deserve a beating. All of the
people who wanted to sound like fake tough guys. Baseball
does it well. But then you finally, like once the
emotions subsided, you started to get a lot of the
players who said, hey, look, if they were the only

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ones doing it, then I would say, yeah, go ahead,
you know, bring down the hammer on these guys. Do
whatever you need to do. But you know, Chris Sale
one of those guys saying they weren't. I defer to
players whenever I hear things like this. If players are
saying things like that, I'm not going to listen to
anybody else out there who thinks that their opinion matters,

(09:11):
because well, social media allows for people to think that
their opinion matters. But in this case, I mean aj Prazinski,
Eric Kratz, I think Dallas Braden weighed in on it.
I know, Ernie yeah. Osmer yeah, uh.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
There's a lot of people who wants to Eric Hosmer.
I mean there's a lot of people weighed in on it,
and a lot, oh, I'm sure wanted to and respects
hard to get, easy to lose, and much harder to
get back. That was so blatant that it's one of

(09:52):
those that if somebody else on another team, if Fromber
could come to the plate, they'd hit him like I'm
I'm serious. I could see tell you that Catcher's for
attorney saying, you know what, we're up nine to three.
Any guy's coming, It's not gonna happen, can't because they
never go to the plate. But you get my point.
I think their some will say, you know what, Okay,

(10:14):
you know what, Bush leaguetally, I'm a waste a pitch
into your rib cage. Never see it. They don't ever
have to worry about it. But he's exactly Fromer's fortunate
that it was twenty twenty five and not twenty nineteen
ninety five or nineteen eighty five or even two thousand
and five. So with that being said, and listen, call

(10:35):
like we see it. Maybe this is one of those
where they say, guys play a little angrier. I don't
know what it's gonna take. Last night, they were resilient
as hell in their win. It was a really good win.
But that hover and over the head, it's got to
be an irritant. Shouldn't have to answer it, shouldn't have
to be doing that. And every time I go back
now and look at the visuals of it, it bothers

(10:56):
me immensely. It does. It bothers me because I'm sitting
there thinking, I mean.

Speaker 7 (11:04):
The more you watch it, the more you're filled with tree.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, And the more I feel like this is this
is your your dog, this is your guy. Man, he's
your teammate. You might as well go up and punch
a family member right in the face. You know what
I'm saying. No, obviously, no, but I don't mean literally,
but literally would probably be the way I mean that, dude,
that's no joke now, And I just to me and

(11:30):
I think the reason people don't want to make a
big deal of it. You want to know why people
don't want to make a big deal, because a bigger
deal than we think it is. And that's a friend.
You can fracture a clubhouse in a hurry by doing that.
And when you have a reputation of being kind of
soft minded at times with phenomenal stuff, the discrepancy between
the two is incredible. If you can bring one closer

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to the other, and you know which one needs to
be brought closer to the other, he may never, nobody
ever may hit him. But yeah, that was bothersome to me,
and judging from the comments, was bothered something to a
lot of them. And I know times changed, it would
have been handled different years ago, but now with the
fragility and all the softness we have going on in
pro sports, so you can't you can't police your own

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clubhouse or your own locker room. It's different. But that
being said, the resilience of the Astros this season, they
are still now what four games in front? Yeah, no,
four games in front? When you start talking, you know
what's the magic number? A little too early to start
talking it, but I'd rather be four up than chasing.
This team's talented. If they can put it together at

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the plate, they're going to be fine.

Speaker 7 (12:35):
It's gonna say that's the big If I mean, you
get that, then I think you start to feel a
lot different about this team. And this would be a
really nice time of the year to start to get
that going for you. And we will talk about last
night's game, because you win a game like that, it
does need to be talked about, so plenty of time
to be able to get into that. But football season, Hey, hey, hey, easy,

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I hear you, I hear the audience.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
We got that.

Speaker 7 (13:00):
We got football season starting tonight. Yes, we got that.
And tomorrow night you get a double Wahomie two for two.
So yes, because the college football weekend is just.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
A little so long, but it's college foot but it's
really it's our second week and so you're still pumped.

Speaker 7 (13:16):
Well, you only get saudy Saturday, right, That's that's the saying.
You only get so many Saturdays. But I mean maybe
if there is one Saturday that you know, hey, can
you do this in the backyard? You know who's playing
the eleven o'clock games?

Speaker 6 (13:27):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (13:28):
You Iowa, Iowa State do I really need to the
border war?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Do I really need to? I mean, you know, so
you got that going, we keep it on, but you're
you may be doing something mess.

Speaker 7 (13:38):
Game right right right, you know, walk by, Hey, what's
the score? You know those kind of things. Yeah, for sure.
So yes, to Shawn's point, there is that. But the
mixed messages, I feel like with this conversation we were
just having. I feel like they're just continuing. There were
a couple of more examples of it yesterday. We'll talk
about it right here. It is a Sean Salisbury show
on a Thursday, Sports Talk seven ninety. Let's go as

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this is the Sean Salisbury Show as the Cowboys going
to take on the Eagles there to open up the
NFL season, and you get the Chargers and Chiefs tomorrow.
But a couple of more things from the Fromber Salazar situation.
So we'll start it off first with some audio if
you'll indulge me here it's about a minute or so.
This was Joe Aspota yesterday about the whole situation, and

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you know, like I said, some loose reports out there,
and Joe took a few minutes at the beginning of
his pregame availability with the media to address such things.

Speaker 9 (14:35):
So yesterday I obviously met with Salazar and Valdez once
I finished talking to you postgame, and I really wanted
to get down to number one was the asking him
to step off. I want to know about the top process,
what you know, whitch pitch, who.

Speaker 8 (14:52):
Was calling which pitch and what.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
And I wanted to hear from both of them.

Speaker 9 (14:57):
At the same time, I wanted to have a compass
face to face because I wanted to hear the truth
about the whole entire thing that happened in that ending.
I have a lot of respect for both players, and
I truly believe that when they when we have these conversations,
that they're honest, and I want them to tell me
the truth, and I want them to tell you guys

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the truth once they, you know, talk to the media.
So I don't want to get into specifics, but I
do want to say that.

Speaker 10 (15:29):
I want to put this behind us.

Speaker 9 (15:31):
There's a lot of speculations and stuff that's been said
on media which I don't read, but they make me,
you know, people tell me what's going on, and I
don't like it. A lot of a lot of that
stuff is not true, but I understand the environment and
the what comes with it, right, so I appreciate it.

(15:51):
We can just get past this and go back to
you know, baseball.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
All right.

Speaker 7 (15:56):
So remember yesterday Sean I had said that something like
that I was pretty sure was coming. Where it was,
Let's get past this. You guys are making too big
of a deal of this, all of these different types
of things. And I mean, I don't really overall have
an issue with what Jospotas said, but I mean it
is going along the lines of a report that was

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out there. Michael Schwab, who is somebody on Astros Twitter,
who I mean, at least does seem like he has
people inside the Astros clubhouse who will give him some
information and he's gotten some things right. And in this case,
there was a report yesterday from him that there was
a confrontation in the clubhouse that some of the veterans

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went to Fromber and said that ain't right. What you did.
You need to make it right. You need to address
it with Sesar Salazar.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
And go on.

Speaker 7 (16:47):
And I mean, you know, I haven't seen it from
anyone else, but at least that's out there, and it
doesn't surprise me if that's the case, because I understand
you don't want to do it during the game, but
you've to be able to address that soon enough. And
I mean, again, we're going off unconfirmed reports on that.
But it doesn't shock me that something like that happened.

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Then it doesn't shock me that the Astros wouldn't want
something like that out there.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Well, if it did happen. If it did happen, it
should have. And I don't know why the Astros would
have a problem with one that out there, that there
was a confrontation, because it tells me the players have
control of what they're supposed to have control over. I'd
very much want it out there. When Joe responds said,
I wanted you guys to be honest with each other

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and honest with me, and then you can go out
there and be honest when you tell it. That tells
me they won't being honest. After the game experiences, there's
no doubt and regard. I don't know if there was
a fight, I don't know, if there's an argument, I
don't know. I know this if it was an accident,
those are the worst optics between a catcher and a
pitcher I've ever seen after that, nobody throws a fastball

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on an off speech pitch and hits the catcher and
turns around walks away to center field. If they're concerned
about what the confusion period, you can be asked me
how you want I've been in pro sports locker rooms
on plenty of times in my life, more than most
that are listening, and more than most that are actually
coaching it because I'm older than all of them. Is
that that body language will tell you everything in a

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locker room at a clubhouse, trust me. And on the mound,
when you do something that affects one of your teammates,
you go to him. You don't walk away from him.
And I sure sec don't snap my head back at
the picture. I put my head to walk out there,
call time out right away, and go and say pat
my chest. That's my bad. So the world knows it
was on me. That's the way you do it. So
if the astros are concerned about this getting out, it's

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already out. You have a picture who's now lost a
lot of respect to Major League Baseball, who is a
great pitcher but needs to get his crap under control.
To his teammates, if nothing else, period, and stop the
emotional roller coaster and act like a seven year old
didn't get his president at Christmas when things go sideways
at his sideway, stuff is self inflicted, no matter how

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good he is. Those are just the facts here now
what they do moving on and the rest of it.
I respect his game, but you know what, if I
was on that team, he'd have been addressed as well,
just like they should have. And the Astros should want
that because it tells me it's not a pussified clubhouse.
That's what it tells me. Because if you let it
run rough shot, oh, do it to him and get
to pick and choose who you do it to. That's

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like being a boss at a place and treating the
intern a lot worse than you treat the star. No, no, no,
that doesn't work here. So if all the clubhouse stuff
we hear about the Astros is true, then that should
have happened. As a matter of fact. As a manager,
you turn the other cheek and you let it happen.
You make sure they police themselves, You make sure that
they babysit themselves. You shouldn't need to, and if you do,

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you're in the wrong sport and probably in the wrong
position to be in. I'm talking to any man. It
doesn't matter. Those things get taken care of by the
right people. And I don't know if it's true or not,
but I can tell you this, I'd be more disappointed
to hear that somebody didn't address him in the clubhouse
as opposed to somebody or two or three players did,
because if that tells me that you just look at

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each other say we're in the we ain't in this together.
So all this, this is a tight knit clubhouse, great
leadership through all these years, and I think that's true.
Perfect opportunity to prove it was yet was what Tuesday night,
And let's hope they did. So I don't know what
the sources are, and all that, I don't care. I
know this. If it is true, good stand up and

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cheer it till the high heavens, because you need people
to know your clubhouse is under control. Let it faster.
I don't want to do this. We it's walking on eggshells,
poor sensitive, old fragile. Screw your fagility. Screw it. Okay,
I really I can care less about how fragile somebody
is about some that just didn't quite go their way
in a ballgame, competitive or not, don't be a competitive

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a punk to your teammate. Competitive you I can compardmentalize,
you could be a punk and you could be a prick.
And when you put them both together against the other team,
that's a good thing. But when it's to your own teammate,
for god in the world to see, nah, I'm not
here for that, and nor should they be.

Speaker 7 (21:06):
In another way, as Chandler Room put it on Twitter
as part of his story to quote get past it,
and he even used it in quotes Sesar salas are
sent out last night with the lineup card in the pregame.
You're only doing that for either an honor. I mean,
remember the Tigers did it when Jim Joyce missed the
call over at first base for Armando Galarraga, and the

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next day it was kind of, oh, hey, it's a nice.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Gesture for the perfect game.

Speaker 7 (21:33):
Yeah, right, So, I mean, you know a lot of
times it's optics, empty gestures. But to me, it feeds
into more mixed messages. Why are you sending them out
there if it's if this is no longer a big deal,
You've addressed it, it's done, it's over with, just send
your bench coach out there with the lineup card. You
go out there with the lineup card, if that's really
the case. But you're sending them out there. To me,
that's pandering, it's playcating, it's all of those things.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
It's a makeup call to make it seem like nothing.
It's okay to have. Listen, here's what I don't do
you think the Yankees, when Billy Martin and Reggie Jackson
were there, cared about these fights. Matter of fact, they
loved them. They freaking loved them. Derman Thomas did they
freakin loved them? I'm sorry, Yeah, they loved them. Billy
fighting in the dugout there. Now, don't you want your fighting?

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But about behind closed doors? I don't understand. Oh listen, man,
if you don't know, you don't know. I've watched some
of the greatest. Now you don't want anybody get hurt
and break a hand. I've watched some of the best
club locker room fights on the planet. And if I
told you one, your jaw would drop. And if I

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told you the result and who was involved, you'd say,
no friggin way. Terrell Owens and he don't Oh no,
I never played for either one of those teams I've
done about when when one is supposed to have no shot,
and that was one that's surprised me. Listen, listen, I
mean that you would, you'd be shocked. But it goes
on all the time. I don't know why I were

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I would. I'm okay, you don't need to let us
know that he's walking out with the lineup card wide,
because here's a makeup call. You'll show we're all tight
and you know we're together, we're in sync. Okay, great,
that's fine, I get it, But do you embrace this?
Can you imagine going through one hundred and fifty games
or one hundred and forty five games wherever we're at now,

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and not having an argument with a teammate. Hell, people
have disagreement with their wife every third day, or disagree
this If you, oh, I didn't it is or we're late.
You got to go pick up the kid. I mean,
not bad, but it's just it happens. You got a bed,
wake up. Hopefully it's good next day. It's not one
of those ones. You let it fester and be kind
in it and get it getting over with, let hash
it out. So I I just to me. It's okay.

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A picture and a catcher were on the same page.
One was pissed, he acted like a child we've seen before.
The other got your third string catcher and coming in
trying to do a job and got oaky dope. So
it happens, we make it own. None of us are
going to buy in the fact that they're gonna go
out to dinner and spend their best friends after And
maybe they are. Maybe it turns it into a better relationship.

(24:07):
I don't know, but I don't know. Embrace it every day.
You're not perfect. Okay, you're trying to seek nobody. Twenty
six dudes in the clubhouse, I got news for you.
There's plenty of them. They walk out there. I can't
stand that guy, but they respect him as a teammate.
I ain't been in a locker room where everybody loves everybody.
If you do, then your team's probably not very good. Okay,
you need the guy, I mean, it's okay. Tread and

(24:28):
lightly walking on eggshells. Screw the as and I'm not
walking on eggshells. Come, guy's fragile in the clubhouse when
he's my ace. Now I'm not worried about your fragility. Dude,
you go handle that. You're a grown ass man. You
pitch like one, like a grown ass man, Now act
like one all the time. Okay, but get when they
go against each other. I can't believe we don't hear
more of it in baseball, with all the with all

(24:49):
the nosy nellies that get involved in people you know
in the clubhouse, there's plenty of it. But I can't
believe we don't hear more about it, because you know what,
there's plenty of times dudes you're yelling and screaming, are
mad at each other, go behind, want to break bats
and throw it. And I get it. It's a long season.
And if you're not competitive, and the probably if that
hasn't happened in your clubhouse, then you probably well you're

(25:10):
in a church league. Hell, it probably happens in church
leagues too. So I don't have a problem with it.
Embrace it, man. That tells me you're competitive and you're
into it. What doesn't tell me is when you disrespect
your own teammate. For God in the world to see,
that's a problem because if it happens again, he on accident,
you know, we're all gonna say accident. You're your ass.

(25:30):
We're not going to say it's an accident even if
it was, because well the history, and then we won't
cut him a brick. Address it, get it over, raise
your hands, hands of my bad and keep it moving
and quit trying to hide it. And no, you gotta
protect now you know how to protect it. They're growing ass, guys.
Now this is a strong clubhouse. I heard that for
ten years. Perfect time to prove it.

Speaker 7 (25:50):
Well, I think you did last night with that comeback
win in the way that you got to do in
that's how you get things done for sure. So I'm
sure that was a nice change of pace and we
will get into that too as well, as you know.
Sean pointed out a little bit of football as the
show goes along with Joe and Brad. I know you
went to weigh in on this. We'll give you that opportunity.
You want to join them Someone three two and two
five seven ninety against someone three two and two five

(26:12):
seven ninety Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety. The
Shawn Salisbury Show continued. Joe in clear Lake wants to
get us going this morning. Joe, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 11 (26:27):
Love the Show'm up early enough to watch it. I
think it's seven nineties. Missing a tom slot for you guys.
You guys ought to be at mid morning. Got a
great show you and the A team.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Thanks.

Speaker 11 (26:39):
But to address similar situations. We talked about great win
last night. We needed that win. I listen to your
show yesterday, and I honestly think that we're not coaching
like we have a sense of urgency to win this division,
even though we're we're just looking back and what and Seattle.

(27:00):
You know, domino Is lose games and Rangers lose games.
We're not winning as many games as we should. This
team's potentially could go deep in the playoffs. Will this
team go deep in the playoffs? Probably not. That's my
personal opinion, and I'll bleed orange. Okay, Alvarez four for
five last night, go back to yesterday morning while was

(27:23):
he off at four months rest. That's four out of
five reasons why I should have played yesterday. Like I said,
we're not coaching with the sense of urgency to win
the division. Fromer Valdes and the sales are incident Okay
fromer Valvedz.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
Dude, we got the point. You don't have to spell
it out.

Speaker 8 (27:41):
We're good, okay.

Speaker 11 (27:44):
So, and as far as major League Baseball with him
going with free agency next year, you know, nobody wants
to know the trail that wins in their locker room.
That's what I've got to say.

Speaker 7 (27:56):
All right, Appreciate the call, Joe. I mean, you know,
with the Jordan stuff, and I know we're talking about
Fromber and Salazar right now, but I mean, clearly paid
off last night because you saw what that guy can
do when he's ready to go, and you heard Dana
Brown say yesterday too. I mean, with that off day,
now it's full go for him, at least until they

(28:20):
locked up their postseason spot and they know where they're
going and how they're going to get there, all of
those different things. But I mean, I feel like the
nail was already there for Fromber. This was just another
thing that furthered the thought that you're done with them.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
He just put an exclamation point and validated why it's
not going to aside from the money he's gonna want,
and he'll be pitching somewhere else next year unless something
short of a miracle, he'll be pitching somewhere else. That's that.
But I'll tell you another key to this. If they
did handle the clubhouse a good thing. Moving forward, we'll see,

(28:55):
we'll see how he rot. I'm not worried about how
Salazar is gonna respond. I'll be honest with you, I'm
not at all. I'm worried about how his rabbit ears
are going to respond. Being frommer listen, when he's going
good and he's locked in, you look at him and
this is tough minded pitcher, and we know his stuff.
And as Dana said, there's no doubt that he's competitive.
But you can be both. You can be competitive and

(29:18):
soft minded. There is no doubt about it. You can't
be in these things. Being a front runner is not
a good thing. His pitcher, You having to pitch through
some crap. You be in a front runner when all
things are good, it's all fine and Danny, for most
it's the guy who can who can shine, and you
can see it shine in the in the worst of times.

(29:38):
Right now, that's not his strength. Let's let's just put
it that way. But on the other side of this,
the great thing about this was they won last night.
That this didn't fester to the point where it affected
their performance. You've got to be able to compartmentalize and
hang it on the on the door outside walking in. Okay,
we got all these things. Once you walk in, your
back to being teammates, do whatever you got to do well,
or address it while you're there. But once you at

(30:00):
the field, locker room, clubhouse, the field, you got to
look at it different. You just have to. And that's
a pro. That's being a pro. And when it got down,
it looked like fat of these guys lethargic, what's going on?
Bam bam bam bam man Before you know it, you
know they'd have eight runs on the board and still
have to stave it off. But every one of them
met and they needed eight last night to get it done.
So I'm okay with it. The way they responded told
me something about them, which says strong clubhouse. But you

(30:23):
got to get those things taken care of immediately. And
if you're just honest about them, two dudes didn't get
along in the game for whatever reason. If there's a
who the hell cares but Fromber, this is fro Fromber
needs to extend the olive branch. That's where that needed
and hopefully it got that last yesterday or whenever it
was done.

Speaker 7 (30:42):
Well and maybe we'll find that out. But you know
it's funny too. And talking about this, a Houston sports
comparison came up. I feel like the circumstances are a
little different, but it is something that I do think
we can cover here.

Speaker 8 (30:53):
Brad.

Speaker 7 (30:53):
We'll get you involved in the conversation when I join them.
Seven one, three, two on two five, seven ninety the
number to get in Sean Salisbury shows let's talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
From h Town.

Speaker 8 (31:03):
This is a for h down.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
This is this is sports talk seven nights because right
now you see it right on Houston right now, going
back to Sean Salisbury. Because so I parked it here
and then I looked down and say, maybe a little bit,
and I think of a life. I wasn't drunk last night,
So I'm I wouldn't have drove it anyway, right, wr right,

(31:28):
because around sc it's just you're either taking your buddy,
you're riding your bike, or you're walk into the wall
in l A. You ain't doing that. So I said, okay,
so I didn't drink. I don't even remember even driving
my car past six o'clock. Where's my vehicle? It was
a little pickup truck. Gone after after the second time,
you never saw it again.

Speaker 7 (31:45):
You call and they're like, eh, a game, maybe, yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Mike's vehicles stolen. Yeah, here's your case number. Yeah, I'm
driving down though you had everything right except the convertible
because yeah, and then pull the blouse punked out, and
he's just it was a slide inside out stereo because
they'd get stolen all the time.

Speaker 7 (32:03):
They were the precious commodities.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yes, the the stereo in your vehicle was the equivalent
till it. Now people are stealing. Everybody thought, well, they're
stealing your what's with the catalytic converter? You know, they
stealing them to steal themselves. That's what they used to
do with the copper. Yes, that's what they used to write.
That's what they used to steal. But that now, now,

(32:26):
that's was the fashionable thing to steal. Back then, it
was oh, yes, steal the vehicle if you can't steal
the stereo one of the two. Unfortunate in mind, they
did both couple times.

Speaker 7 (32:34):
It's kinda say, I mean, is it one of those
that the vehicle can be replaced but not the stereo
or the other way.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Around. I mean, I guess, yeah, I mean one's a
little more man. That's why you know you took on.
You had all your tapes and a holder there too, right,
you put in your oh yeah, you know the line
down on the sun shield, yep, pull them out, and
then so the vehicle probably and I couldn't replace it.
So then you got to get a little in insurance

(33:00):
money and hope that the insurance money gives you enough
to put a down pay on another.

Speaker 7 (33:04):
Here you go, here's here's five grand. Oh thanks.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Your car was found in Bakersfield, stripped, nothing left. Yeah,
keep it.

Speaker 7 (33:13):
I think your transmissions in Barstowe.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah. First time it was Mexica. It's headed towards Maxfield.
The second time I got stolde was up going north
towards Bakersfield. It was in Bakersfield. Yeah, it was great.
Good to be me.

Speaker 7 (33:25):
Bakersfield the home of Buck Owens.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, Bakersfield home of a lot of Trojans.

Speaker 7 (33:30):
To ye, that's a ya. Just look up Buck Buck
Yeah he haw another day looking up.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, I love that show.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
Popular as a kid. Yeah, that's well, I mean, you know,
at least for the kids.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Who was his sidekick, Buck Owens and I don't remember
remember the I want you to do a little Google
shirt on that show he Haul good show Man.

Speaker 7 (33:54):
I mean it's kind of like, you know, the modern
day example would be Yellowstone, Like how everybody now thinks
like they're a cowboy, so they start wearing like the vest,
the boots, the belt buckle and all of that, and
right right, we'll probably back then, he Hall was kind
of where, you know, even the kids that grew up
in like New York City would be like, you know,
I want to be like Buck Owens.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, a little more howdy duty.

Speaker 8 (34:14):
Back then, for.

Speaker 7 (34:15):
Sure, I was thinking, like everybody's like Hoss from you know, Bonanza,
rights car right, walking around the thing and the.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Enforcer in the family.

Speaker 7 (34:28):
I couldn't sound like more of a middle aged white
guy if I tried, right now, right, oh yeah, Hoss
cart right, there's nothing more middle aged white guy than
Bonanza on the Countryside, right, maybe a gun smoke. It's
like one of the obscure you know, channels that you
can get on your cable packages is Grit and it's
a lot of Yeah, it's a lot of old Western TV land.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah yeah, Lone Ranger, Yeah, no doubt. He and Tato big.
Why is this guy?

Speaker 7 (34:56):
Why is this guy riding around with the black mask?

Speaker 1 (34:58):
What's steel here? Yeah? What was this horse's name again? Gosh,
that's silver is it? Ohio silver? Yeah, Hio silver Silver.
Then the horse would start to those old school the
Riflemen with Chuck Connorsua.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
And m uses it for their strikeout song like whenever,
and then the raggies as they call them, the students
up there in the second debt, we'll start doing like
you know, uh, pistols.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
You know, like Yosemite Sam. Yeah, I call Himite Sam.
I'll tell you on those what I miss is like
the we don't our cartoons these days suck the old
they're really not animated series. You go back when you
got Bugs Bunny, Roadrunner Hour and the Wacky Weight Racers
and all those.

Speaker 7 (35:50):
Even California is the first ones kind of crossover.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
They bring those back, you know with the you know
the actme when when you know Roadrunners chasing his ass,
getting his ass chased, can't quite catch up to him.
It's just everything about the cartoons in that time just
kind of like the music blows away that we don't
have cartoons anymore. So he's missed a couple of generations,
missed the right cartones. But you can get him like
on well that Cartoon Network, sometimes Looney Tunes, but old school,

(36:17):
which is uh, which is to me? I know as
an adult, I'd still watch them. Nostalgia. Yeah, love, we
need a good time nostalgia.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
No, absolutely, all right, we'll get Brad and Roger and
involved in the car. You're going to get Brad Roger
involved in the Car's going to get Brad and Roger
involved in the conversation. Later told Brad last segment, You're
going to get him involved in the conversation.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Conversation. I think Brad enjoyed it. Roger's not involved in
the conversation. He told me he was going to be
involved in the conversation, right he showed. He showed up
as the conversation was ongoing, probably getting ready for his
tea times. So what are you gonna tell him? Hey,
Roger and Brad will stay right there. We're gonna get
you involved in the conversation. Are you going to involve
him in the conversation at seven o'clock right off the top?

(36:59):
You are, You're in. You're gonna before you even tell
what the Astros scores. You're gonna bring a bit, You're
gonna give him that kind of cred.

Speaker 7 (37:06):
Well, I go ahead and give you one going in
and then coming out fair enough, eight to seven. You
beat the Yankees last night. Robbert gave the series tonight.
So tell them that's it. Tell them what you're gonna
do for Roger Brad at the top of seven o'clock,
Glad you're leading this off with Rogers.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
You's got to get in involved in the conversation, said,
tell it there, that's right.

Speaker 7 (37:24):
There, you go, you guys, you guys are involved in
the conversation.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
Is that fair?

Speaker 7 (37:28):
I'm looking I'm looking right at you and saying, ey eye,
that's it. Let's go just so you know, no lies
here with a show of honesty. Sean Salisbury Show, Sports
Talk seven ninety.

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Speaker 8 (38:03):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Sewn Salisbury to usc Troupes, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Dan Matthewscus.

Speaker 7 (38:13):
This is the Sewan Salisbury Show, as the Astros now
four games up on Seattle in the West, and they
are five and a half up on the Rangers in
the NFL. Going to get going tonight, and so we'll
get the Cowboys and Eagles to start off the season.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Before you get to your get involved in the Thanks
for bringing the cookie cookie? Yes, No, I don't, Okay,
I don't. I hope somebody else does.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
But I gave him the D.

Speaker 8 (38:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Is this the D on the happy birthday? Just say
that a little louder. You didn't give me any D?

Speaker 8 (38:55):
Dan?

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Okay? Well I literally did? I mean, in fairness, this
isn't This isn't the club I don't know you were
at last night. I literally gave you the letter D. Right.
But if somebody tunes in and they're driving down the freeway, right,
I says, hey Dan, Sean here, did did you get

(39:15):
the D?

Speaker 8 (39:17):
How do you like?

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Would I give you the DY? Birthday?

Speaker 13 (39:21):
Dan?

Speaker 8 (39:21):
Right?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
So was it the D from the It's a cookie cake, right,
which I love You didn't know that but you do
now and underrated, by the way, under incredibly under underrated
cake type of pie for dessert. Right, Because there's times
even at the mall when I see him. You got
me spitting into the you know, but with the frosting.
So the D is it the D and birthday? Or

(39:43):
is it the D and Dan, D and D or
is it just the D, D and D, D and Dan.
Thank you, good birthday, great birthday. I just wanted to
have it. Buy this cookie and get you involved in
the cons how about that birthday? Look at you because
I get now I want I do like, is I
like a little extra frosting?

Speaker 7 (40:02):
And I got it. There's a lot of frosting on
the D, A lot of frosting on the D. There's
a lot of a lot of frosting on the outside too.
So what did triple get a triple starfish? I think
he got one of the t's the tea. Yeah yeah, no,
no squid word, no, no, anybody liked that, you know,
didn't didn't have any of the characters.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Tell you what I'm mowing through this d.

Speaker 7 (40:25):
Dude, it's delicious. It's delicious. Enjoy, enjoy. It's the only
time I will there you go. It's the only time
in the history that I'm glad. I'm glad I could
be of use this spouting. So when you woke up
this where you said, let me give a show on
the D I mean, I prefer you give it to
It's it's a happy coincidence right here and that and

(40:45):
that what Bob Ross said.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Now, there's no mistakes, just happy coincidences. Let me wash
this down with with my coffee. And do you guys
know I like my cough of course, yeah, of course,
of course we know, sir. Yes see, I finally got him.
Look with the assist you got, you got the chainsaw
right there, you're Jazz Chisholming. You just wrung me up.

(41:09):
That's it. That's it. I prefer to me Belinger with
a three run job that just quite came up.

Speaker 13 (41:15):
Shot.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Gosh, that was the thing.

Speaker 7 (41:17):
As soon as you get that, you're like, oh and
then you get the full count on on Chisholm. I'm like,
pray you homeerd a couple of times a day before, right,
I'm like, I'm like, bray you. We're not gonna do this,
are we?

Speaker 14 (41:26):
Like?

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Come on, man, It's like I've had enough. We're gonna
We're gonna. I don't need more. Right, We're gonna hammer
from or tomorrow at least, lets me a win. That's it.

Speaker 7 (41:36):
Yeah, yeah, No, there's still still hammering.

Speaker 8 (41:39):
All right. Uh.

Speaker 7 (41:40):
I feel like the coach and Rudy you know when
he finally all right, kid, you're in.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Uh, get him involved in the conversation. Yeah, Brad's Rudy,
Brad go.

Speaker 13 (41:50):
I what's up?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Guys are doing good? Brother.

Speaker 13 (41:54):
I feel like I feel like the guy on the
on deck circle who always gets recalled.

Speaker 15 (41:58):
You know you're you're gonna get in.

Speaker 13 (42:01):
You're gonna get in.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
And I got recalled. Yeah, you know, you know what
is Brad. It's like, you know, you're on the on
deck circle. You're kind of playing it out and you're thinking, well,
this guy gets on, I got a chance to hit
a grand slammer, a three run homer, and then he
makes the third out and you gotta go grab your
glove and you gotta wait to get yeah, to do
it for the next right, Hey, we got a double shift,

(42:24):
got a double shift and Brad, sorry, we got to
send me down a triple A for a day.

Speaker 8 (42:27):
Brother. Yeah, you feel like Chad McCormick. You no big deal.

Speaker 13 (42:33):
Hey, Okay, we're.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Never going to df A you. We're never going to
d f A you. You always got a roster spot
dog there you go.

Speaker 13 (42:39):
Hey, what I felt to mentioned yesterday is that what
got me a little bit more proverb You know, I
could get chewing somebody out. They don't leg one out.
You know, they're running half had, but this guy could
have hurt somebody. Number two, it's the Yankees. Do not
let him get back in their head, in our heads.
You know with Boone over there, he saw what went on.
Everybody saw all went on. You don't think he's sitting

(43:01):
there salivating.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
We got him, We got him.

Speaker 13 (43:03):
There a team that's busting apart. Uh, they're starting to
come apart. You know in the scenes this you know
back in that I've seen it. I've literally seen it,
heard it. I've had players tell me get rid of him,
dump him if you got a chance to get him
in the first in and get him out of here.
We hate you catchers and pictures. When I was coming up,

(43:25):
you didn't go out and drink. They just basically liked
each other between the lines, and even then they hated
each other. So it's part of the game. It's personalities.
They needed to do what they did. You're right, Sean,
Let's see what happens to this next go around. Any inclination.
Know of him melting down, you get rid of him.

(43:46):
And I hate to say it, but I wouldn't put
him on, you know, put him out, but maybe miss
another start. That's my opinion. Y'all be careful, man, God
bless you.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Thanks appreciate I appreciate it. I think the key here
is and and you know, Brad makes some good points.
I do want to see how he handles the next
bit of adversity, meaning from er I do. I think
we all do. Like I said, when he's going good,
he's he's there. There's there's very few better. But like
when you get a headache of a player, I'm not

(44:17):
saying him whether he's a headache or not. When you
decide whether you're going to go get somebody or not,
it's like, yeah, man, well how's that. Well, we think
about the questions that we're asked. When Steph Diggs came here,
well he's had a little Buffalo and Minnesota who and
he came here, was named the team captain, gets he
was he was having a good season. Unfortunately gets hurt.
Now the Patriots are hopefully he'll they need a good receiver.

(44:38):
And there you go. So you have that part of it,
but in here in a different way because it's so
he gets sied. And like I said, I don't know
his personality with he seems like a a fun loving
guy that has a good personality. I don't I don't
know how it's perceived in a locker room or the
clubhouse like this. But when something like this happens, it
doesn't matter. And Brad's right about one thing. Friendships are fine,

(44:59):
but when you're a teammate, the respect is far more important.
The friendship comes out of respect. Respect doesn't come out
of the friendship. And so in the in this case,
I don't know what's going to go on, and we
do we move it on will be a good thing.
The way you move on is when they let you
move on. That that that's the key. When they when
you quit talking about it and you go handle your
business like they did last night, and now his next
start and the next one, and Salazar gets out there

(45:21):
and they keep going that's that's that's when we'll move on.
Is when you could get in sideways fromber and keep
doing your thing or disrespect the teammate, or if we
didn't talk about it, what a bunch of cowards, we'd
be okay, it doesn't mean the team's not. It may
be one of those rallying Christs. Oh, it's that us
against the world's. Even our own locals are pissed at Fromber.
Great if it elevates his play. Good know that we're

(45:43):
pissed times five and do that in the postseason two,
No big deal, and well everybody will get over it.
The optics were awful. We know exactly why it happened,
and there's there's, there's you. You can't skirt it. The
fact that Joe said, handle it, get it done, be
honest with it, and let's move forward. And that's all
you got to do. Now, when you move forward, you
get over it, and so will we and go handle

(46:04):
your business.

Speaker 7 (46:04):
Remember I said the circumstances are different, but there is
a Houston sports comparison because Fromber is going to walk
at the end of the season. You're not going to
trade him because when he's a free agent, Yeah, you
can't trade him. Now that that ship sailed. He's Laramie Tunseell.
You win with Laramie Tunsell on the field because when
he doesn't false start or illegally shift or anything like that,

(46:25):
just any of the pre snap penalties. I mean, the
illegal shift is in play. But you get my point.
And then it's also, oh, he can't practice the first
couple of weeks of training camp. He's got a knee.
I told you during the break. I remember the final
press conference that Demiko Ryans did last year, and he
talked about, you know, once we get to April, if
you haven't been working out, it's too late. At that point,
I said, oh my god, he's talking about Tunsil. He's

(46:47):
talking about a guy who has a reputation of being
good at football, but doesn't really like the things that
go into being good at football.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
I mean the preparation that everybody has to have. Yeah,
then it finally got.

Speaker 7 (46:57):
To a point where you're like, look, the talent does
not over ride the just annoyance of dude, can you
understand what we're asking you to do and what we're
asking you.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
To be for this team? I mean, people have you
heard say I'm craving him back? No, no one, not
a single one. You know what's gonna happen here.

Speaker 7 (47:12):
It's not that he's a bad guy, Like I don't
think is a bad guy.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Oh I don't either, This has nothing to do with
liking him as a human being as absolutely nothing. See,
when you criticize somebody what they did, it's like whoa,
you hate him or disrespect and now personal, it's not personal,
and it shouldn't be prett you know. Now, if you're
if you're Salazar, that's personal. You throw a ninety three
mile an hour fast, you damn right, that's personal. If

(47:38):
it hits him in the wrist, Salazar's done for the year.

Speaker 7 (47:40):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
So regardless, that's personal. They handle it, And I'm not
Gladys Kravitz on Bewitched walking down the street want to
look in their window and see what they're doing. Handle
it as a team, handle it, and we don't need
to know how you handle it. The truth is we
want to, Oh boy, do we want to, but we
don't need to know. I don't care if you went
in there and whooped each other's ass, as long as
the next day come out there, if you've got a
black eye, you perform, and you hug each other and

(48:02):
tip each other's at and let's go. I don't care.
It's not archaic. It's called being around somebody every day.
That's why the ladies have their happy hour with the ladies,
that you get away from each other, because it gets
to the point where damn enough saying't they here players
around each other all that they're around there more than
they are their families during the season. If you're not
pissed at a teammate because he's annoying you because he

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likes to sing while everybody's driving on the bus to
the next ballpark, or what. You know what I'm saying
on the point that guy like dude not today. Everybody
gets irritable, and you know what, when you take it
on the field, but that's what it's got to stay.
You handle it in your clubhouse, go back to business compartmentalizing.
Good teams handle that. Every team fights. If you're any
good Philadelphia Eagles, you don't think they got in fights
on the practeville, in the clubhouse or in their locker room.

(48:45):
Last Shock and Garret asked, they did. And it's okay,
matter of fact, I don't have a problem with Sometimes
it's sometimes it's like when a basketball coach says, I
gotta get run here, my team's not playing, goes and
gets run. Their team goes on a twenty two run Bam.
Sometimes you got to do. It happens, but it's the
irritation being around. It's gonna happen, but you've got to
get over it. And you watch when he goes sign

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somewhere else. He's not gonna be talked about and saying, hell,
He'll just be he did his job. But it's never personal.
I think Promert's probably a really good dude, and I
think Tounson was probably a really good dude. But we're
talking about how they handle situations on their team. That's
why this is a sports radio show. I don't know
him personally, so I wouldn't say anything about it. He
might be if he was my friend and I knew him,

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he'd still be getting criticized for this.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Well.

Speaker 7 (49:33):
I mean, he seems like an enjoyable guy, smile on
his face often. We saw the party float with him
and Nears and all the guys when they won the
World Series. And I know every single time I'm in
the clubhouse he starts playing his music and singing, and
you know, seems like he's a likable guy.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
So, I mean, but it can't be a turd to
your teammates, right, I'm telling it. In that situation, you
got to you're held you're you're you're good.

Speaker 7 (49:54):
You can do selfish things and not be a selfish person.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
That's exactly trust me. I know that from experience, and
we this hold start to a different standard, and we
look at him, say you're our ace, you know, step
off the thing, go talk, get it worked out so
it doesn't fester. It wasn't just one to the home run.
Then it got to he didn't step out. Then he
gives up the grand slam, and then he throws the
other one, and Volpi's even looking like this is weird.

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I mean it was. See how it festered. He threw
a pick and then threw two more. It's like, dude,
and then turned his back around, threw the pick and
pointed the finger at the receiver. That's basically what that
was when everybody watched the miscoverage and threw right to
a guy and then turned his back as if to say,
that's not my bad, that's his bad, which to me,

(50:42):
the I confess he didn't think bugs me more than anything.
But I think Farmer's probably a really good guy. But
around baseball right now today, the respect factor is waning.
Trust me by other people out there. Now go do
your job and get rid of it. We'll get over it.
I'm already over it. I actually kind of liked the
fact that it was handled and they had to get
after it. Maybe maybe hurt a few feelings. Oh well,

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now respond such as life. That's right, all right, Roger.

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seven ninety is the number to get in, Roger. I'll
let you get going, Roger, good morning.

Speaker 15 (53:58):
Good morning, Happy lady, birthday.

Speaker 7 (54:00):
Dan Dad, thank you, brother. I appreciate it.

Speaker 15 (54:03):
Absolutely. Yeah. I got a cue the Sam knis if not,
I know you're a conversation mystery helper.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
I won't.

Speaker 7 (54:11):
The only difference is if I'm doing my set, I
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Speaker 15 (54:19):
Yeah, I mean that gout was such a leg anyway.
Uh So, on the farmber issue, I had this going
on and on. I just think that he lost his
he's lot a lot of money. Usually what he did,
he's not a lot of money. Uh So all those
probably a lot of those j ms are like, you know,
the ones that are heavy contenders are like, hey, I
believe you need this guy's and left he uh now

(54:42):
kind of like probably recanting on that decision maybe a
little bit. You know, we still have to make him
a qualifying officer. We'll lose our compensatory pick. So that
might that might need to even us keeping trumble thinking
and believe that. But my my thing is, yeah, I
would have. I would have, you know, uh you know,
respected and and and and and the professionals would be damned. Yeah,

(55:05):
I would have. I would have. I would have went
up to the locker room. And you know a lot
of people are like, well, you know, Fumper's a big guy.
He probably didn't want to get his budget. I don't care.
I would have. Although I would have happened after I
gave him with two people, no biscuit and everything else
after that happens, and what happens, but and that that
two pieces when he came out, I'm sorry, it just
it just would have because you're wearing that ninety five
mile Oh well on your stomach. And I know everybody

(55:26):
in locker rooms looking at that, So hey, man, you
know that's that's that's that's just a different uh. You
know that you're talking about pride and being a man
and all that stuff. You know, you got to be
a man. You can't just you can't just wear that,
not just and and I hope, uh, you know, and
I hope for for sellers our sake that you know,
everything's all right, you know, because he's just like, you know,

(55:48):
it's just messed up. And you pick on a guy
like that, that's that's not cool, man, that's kind of stuffy.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (55:55):
Uh And that's all I had to say about about
that bro. And also, uh, with with the guys in
the lineup, yet they look a little better. I'm worried
about Correan though. Kara seems like he's uh, I don't know.
It's like he's trying to do you anything to one
time and start play a big uncle. He's you know,
he's trying to you know, I just really think he's

(56:18):
a focus on his game, man, And I know he's
a leader catcher board with that, but so he just
needs to just really focus on his game. We need
that bad, You really need that bad out there, and
that's the guy.

Speaker 7 (56:29):
All right, Yeah, I appreciate it, Roger. I mean Dana
Brown's comments yesterday about he's a middle linebacker out there,
all right, that's all fine, and good middle linebackers can
get your beat. Middle linebackers can be out of position.
Middle linebackers can hit somebody a little bit after the
play and get you fifteen yards and that sets a
team up for a field goal to beat you. I mean,
like I understand the aggressiveness. I understand you know how

(56:52):
he runs out there, and when he's good, it's it's great.
But you don't have to worry about the Astros bringing
him back. They're not going to bring him back. But
one person that I do trust, and I've talked with before,
he straight up said, I gotta tell you, if I'm
a team, I don't make that guy comfortable in terms
of like a lot of years.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
You give that guy a lot of years.

Speaker 7 (57:11):
It's all right. I got my money that. I mean,
if that's coming from somebody I trust, I think that
probably is getting out to a lot of teams too. Frombert,
probably no better will get a three year deal this offseason,
so something like, what, I still.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Have not invested ninety million dollars for three years in him?
Are you somebody else will the stuff?

Speaker 10 (57:32):
Stuff?

Speaker 7 (57:32):
Says yes, But I mean that's the thing though, too
is I mean, I feel like he's got to be
with a manager.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
That can handle that.

Speaker 7 (57:39):
That can I mean, you know, I think you mentioned
Terry Francona being one of those guys. Francona can handle that. Oh,
there's no doubt. If Boachi decides to still man handle it,
can Boachi can handle it?

Speaker 1 (57:50):
No, there's there's no question. So who knows what's gonna
happen his stuff? You want here for the right price? Hell,
you work your way through it, I guess, But I
just don't know. It feels like it feels like there's
borrowed time here. This is just whenever this season ends,
that you cut bait, move on to the next one.

(58:10):
You got your next dace waiting anyway, and they the
only thing you say. Well, and when I do give
the Astros credit for at a time when you could
have traded him to the deadline people are always looking
for premium left handers, you still went all in on
the World Series this year, said we'll deal with it.
So I just don't see him being backer. And you mentioned,
as Danny did, middle linebacker mentality. When it comes to

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the one thing that's missing from the middle linebacker mentality,
they're not they're they're they're they're usually emotionally as tough
as anybody on your team.

Speaker 6 (58:40):
Not as soft.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Well, I mean that's what's missing from that middle linebacker competitiveness.
But there's a middle linebacker competitives as the fragility of
a kicker at times when they miss two field goals
in a row, that's the problem and I need you
to make the third one.

Speaker 7 (58:53):
Well, what about is ziz Al Shaier last year where
he makes a play and get suspended for it of
getting Trevor Lawrence the way he did, but I mean
it hurt your team, Yes, you were without him.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Listen, penalty aggressive penalties. You say, man, I can go,
But when you do something self inflicted, make a mistake,
guess what happens. Now you're no good to me in
street clothes because I need you. That's a big It's
a backhanded compliment. It is like, dude, I let you
aggressively you're doing I get it, but we we need you,
So you got to choose the one that says back

(59:25):
off a little bit. Got to have you on this team,
got to have you playing because he's a hell of
a player and an emotional leader. But your emotion doesn't
do me quite as good in street clothes on the sidelines. Right,
So I think, yeah, you can be good. I can't
have the fragility of a of a non confident kicker.
I'm not saying all kickers met, matter of fact, plenty
of them aren't. But the guy who misses too in
a row, and you know he is going to knock

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the third one that some farmer needs to adopt. You
may get sideways in your own mind, but you've got
to control it and then go make the third one
because it's not the last time Frommer is going to
run into some kind of adversity when he's pitching this year.

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
And it's also you're you're no good to me if
you're giving up six earned runs in your performance, which
I mean the time before this he was good. This
last one he was not good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Well, if you're talking about the last six starts or
so five of them or so, yeah, been one of
them has been has been good, right, and the others
have been also par awful. That you're not winning, right,
so with those performances. So and even if you were,
you don't do that to a teammate. That's that simple.
But they won, so it didn't fester. They took care
of the this. Now we got to find out if
it's festered for him in four days when he gets

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another start.

Speaker 7 (01:00:32):
Time will tell, that's for sure. Charlie, Ronnie, you guys
are up next. You want to join them seven one
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three two on two five. Seven ninety is the number
to get in. Let's go across state lines. Let's get
Charlie and METI involved, Charlie, what's up?

Speaker 8 (01:01:06):
Man?

Speaker 17 (01:01:08):
Hey man? I wanted to comment on fromber. I know
we're that's a dead horse we're beating. But if I
was Salazar, you would have had to restrain me from
Fromber in the locker room. It was inexcusable his behavior.
And then he turns his back after hitting the guy
in the chest. Inexcusable. I hope he's gone. We don't

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need him.

Speaker 13 (01:01:31):
Uh.

Speaker 17 (01:01:31):
Secondly, I heard in the pregame on the radio. I
heard Sean's interview with Dana Brown, and Sean did a
great job pressing him for the three or four questions
he and you knew that in the sense that he
wasn't going to answer them like you wanted and we
wanted and dand Brown just sounded like a politician reading

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a paper that his staff wrote. It was for him
to say all of those things that he said. I
lost faith in him. I thought he was doing a
good job. But if I'm a boss and Fromber and
Salazo worked for me, I guarantee you I would have

(01:02:16):
had them in my office getting in the story from
both sides, and then as a boss, I would have
decided how to handle it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:23):
That's what.

Speaker 15 (01:02:25):
Data.

Speaker 17 (01:02:26):
Brown was inexcusable with the stuff that he said, and
I lost faith with him. He just sounded like a
roebut just covering his butt, the team's butt. And Frombis butt.
There's no need to cover frombis. But what he did
was inexcusable, and I'm sure that I would have trouble
supporting him as a teammate. I would do it automatically

(01:02:48):
because we'd be wearing the same jerseys, but I wouldn't
put my whole heart behind him.

Speaker 7 (01:02:55):
I appreciate Charlie a couple of things there. I mean
when it comes to meeting with players. I mean, he
did what he's supposed to do right there. That's the
manager's job. Manager handles downstairs. I handle the personnel. And
if it gets to a point where need to get involved,
then I'm sure Dana Brown would get involved. But in
terms of answering the question the way that he did,

(01:03:17):
clearly there is a talking point inside that building of
how they're going to handle this. And Dana Brown works
for the Astros. He doesn't work for us, He doesn't
work for anybody else where. He owes us full transparency
on it. He works for the team that signs his checks.
And I mean, as we've said, Sean as maybe the
mixed of the messages and they might be. I mean,
Dana Brown still he's got an employer to answer to.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
I understand people's frustration when they don't hear what they
you know, in an interview. I mean anytime it's whatever
we're doing, we don't hear or see what we want
to see. I believe they probably, I don't believe they
let it fester. I don't know if Dana Brown was
involved in any conversation with it two of them, but
Joe Spot obviously admitted he was, which is a good thing.
It didn't wait a week. You got after it. And

(01:04:01):
Dana's number one responsibilities to his organization, and it should
be I'm gonna ask questions until you know to tell
Well the interviews over, We're gonna just like yesterday and
Pepper him and he was very It's a animated in
his in his enthusiastic. He's always enthusiastic, but it was
as animated and passionate as I as I've heard him.

(01:04:23):
And he's always he's always into baseball. But he was like,
and I loved it, and and I love the fact
that you know a linebacker and listen, no matter what
Dana said yesterday, he's a baseball guy. He's been in clubhouses.
He knows that what happened can't happen, but his obligations
to them and to ask it. And if you're listening closely,

(01:04:44):
you you you you get answers competitive uh, frustrated, which
meant that it wasn't a miss that there was there
was an issue and they'll get handled. Now going forward,
we're gonna see out here. I always want hey handle
it and let it go if we let go, but
you got to let it go too. Frober's gotta let
it go. So I get people bothered by what they saw,

(01:05:05):
and I am too, and I'd have trouble it would
it would have been addressed, that he wouldn't have gotten
the shower before it was addressed. There's there's no question
maybe it was. That's why I always say, take care
of your business there. When we see the business, we're
going to ask questions about it, and then you take
care of about it. And if you don't want to
tell us how it was standing care of, but it
was standing care of. I could live with that. But

(01:05:25):
Fromber's got some fixing to do for himself for his teammates,
and I'm sure they love his game, but I'm sure
after that there's like, Okay, you know we're watching you
go do your thing, man, And I'm anxious to see
how it affects him if he get sideways in a
game again where he goes from there and who's catching
him the next time he pitches.

Speaker 7 (01:05:45):
It's just it's about the benefit of the doubt too,
and when you have the track record that Fromber has
again going off script last year, going after the coach
is about defensive alignment, which I've told you what I
truly think that that is. And I mean you have
where the very next start after going after the coaches,
he tries to make a hero ball play and it

(01:06:06):
leads to a huge inning, and then you get the
other night. I'm sorry, you don't have the benefit of
the doubt. It's not a oh you know what, it
was just a miscommunication. It was loud in there. All
of those things. Miss me with all of that, seriously,
miss me with all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
And you know what nobody's gonna question when Fromber takes
them ount ever, Hey does the guy got stuff? Is
he a good picture?

Speaker 15 (01:06:24):
Hell?

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Yes, So he doesn't have to prove that to anybody.
Now that to the consistency of getting people out winning
games is the most important thing in the end, and respect,
But for him, you want to know how he wins
others over, if he wants to go sign with bigger
money or or takes his game wherever it's at, to

(01:06:46):
another level. Simple prove that you can do the things
in duress that you do without it, that you're that
kind of teammate, that you're the one I can lean
on when hell go, when crap goes sideways. Not the
guy that I just think is it time to do?
Is it time to get him out?

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Is he gonna go sideways when one bad thing happens.
There's only one weakness in his game and that's it.
And unfortunately, the biggest weakness, and you better be talented,
have stuff. The biggest weakness or the one that eliminates
you more than anything, is between your own friggin' ears.
I know that as a quarterback lived it when it

(01:07:26):
came to not getting over what's next Now, I'm never
gonna put a team in a situation a player a
teammate in situation he did. But the frustration. If you're
not frustrated when things aren't going well, then I quite
I'd have to question your commitment to wanting to win.
He's frustrated. Obviously he wants to win, but it's got
to be the end. It's not even just for the optics,
for the right reasons for your team. The only thing

(01:07:47):
left for Fromber to prove is how good are you
when the crap hits the fan regularly? Not once in
a while, most of the time. Everybody's gonna get sideways.
All of them are gonna get kicked out of a game. Arguaball.
I get it. But the one thing you can't do.
You don't pull the eye, confess he did it to
a teammate. You just don't and that. And if you're
going to do that, please don't make it a ninety

(01:08:08):
three mile an hour fastball into the dog on rib,
cage your gut, and then turn your back on him
and walk away as to say, hey, don't you dare
address me with this. That's where I'm most bothered by.
So but do we make a big deal? Yeah, because
it was a big deal at the time. And if
they're still if they're feeling they got to give the
lineup card, the salves aren't STI talking about it is
a big deal, But it won't be a big deal

(01:08:29):
as long as you keep winning and it's taken care of.
It's up the front of that. I don't need to
I don't need you to judge a babysit us and
tell us that, well, what's up the update you're giving
us the update? He handled it. Now let's move forward.
I mean, they won a game last night. Again, it's
up to fromber.

Speaker 7 (01:08:43):
I mean, if he pitches well down the stretch and
he's able to help be a reason that you make
a deep run in the postseason, then people will forget
about this. But if he continues to flounder the way
that he has and have these blow up innings, well
then he's going to continue to cost himself money in years.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
If you're going to be have emotional outburst, you better
be kicking ass. Even then when it's against the teammate unacceptable,
but you better be kicking ass. Then we give you
hall passes for whatever reason. People like to win and
you're kicking ass. But when you're not and stuff like
this happens, then you start to question, can I run
him out there first? Or second? If we get into
an elimination game or an elimination series, we're down two

(01:09:21):
and got two must wins, or I got one must win,
it's three to three in a long series? Is he
my guy? Or that? Valid questions? And you know why
you got asked that question even more now? Real quick,
Dan is as I said yesterday is if you started
Hunter Brown in an elimination game like opening of the Playoffs,

(01:09:41):
I'd be afraid right now. I wouldn't be if I
knew who were you afraid with Smoltz and Glavin? Were
you worried if they said they start maddoxing? Or no,
y'all knew they were going to show up? And now
I'd be right now concerned that if I thought a
Hunter Brown's my lead guy, how will Fromber respond? Not
being the guy who goes out there first? And you
shouldn't be asking that about a guy. I'm not asking
that about yord On. If he's hitting in the two

(01:10:02):
hole of the five hole? Will he disappear? But the
emotional part with Fromber makes you wonder what would you
lose him? Because he didn't get his his his mini
bike in his seventh grade Christmas. He got a great bike,
but not the mini bike, which means you're starting the
second game, not the first. Where will he go? If
you told Hunter Brownie starting third and they're putting two guys.

(01:10:23):
He'd probably go in to clubhouse tear things park say
who wha why? Okay, you think it's best, I'll show
I'll see in game three. You know what I'm saying.
And I don't know, but the mentality watching them feels
like that's who he is. Fromber's one hell of a pitcher.
When the emotions match, the stuff from Raveldees will be unhittable.

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We've seen it in twenty two. Ronnie, you're up and
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and check it out. You will love the indoor outdoor
part of it, no reservations needed. On the other side
of it is if you can't do what Dan did
for his birthday, have it delivered, and they did it,
and it was I didn't get to stick around because
I had to do a podcast, but I heard it
was awesome and all the feedback, but that shouldn't surprise you.
So what was they brought all the fixed? Yeah yeah,

(01:12:26):
it means with it too. Great people and great barbecue.
You dang right it is.

Speaker 7 (01:12:29):
And mister Toomey sets the tone over there, and as
I mentioned, a rash and Hafe, those guys make it
happen every single day over there at twenty two oh
one Leland Street. You got a great inside right there,
You've got an awesome up beer garden. I mentioned college
football Saturdays. The Texan's gonna get going here too. And
the weather, believe it or not, even though it doesn't
seem like it, it is going to cool down and
it is gonna be patio season around here. So that

(01:12:51):
beer garden is absolutely in play. The food elite, the
scene elite, the full service bar in the beer garden. There,
same answer as I had right there, it's Jbarm Barbecue
twenty two to one Leland Street, J bar M Barbecue.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Let the celebration start. War Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 7 (01:13:11):
Ninety Ronnie wants to weigh in.

Speaker 18 (01:13:15):
Ronnie, good morning, Good morning guys. I wonder I don't
know if this Frank us with a Fromber and Salazar
could have been avoided.

Speaker 8 (01:13:28):
But I think.

Speaker 18 (01:13:31):
It doesn't matter whether you're on a pitch clock or
mound visit limitation. Somebody should have gone out to the
mound and settled him down before he threw that pitch
that hits Salazar. You know, there, there's got to be
a way to sort of diffuse some of that that's
going on with people. And another comment, I'll make it Sean.

(01:13:54):
You'll remember Dan probably, I don't think you're old enough.
Remember the great great Oakland A's teams of the seventies.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Yeah, Blue and Joe Rudy and Reggie Jackson Bando tennis group. Yeah, fought.

Speaker 18 (01:14:09):
They fought all the time except when they got on the.

Speaker 10 (01:14:13):
Field then go and and took business on the field.

Speaker 8 (01:14:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:14:20):
I don't know who was in control of that team,
whether it was I mean, I know Dick Williams I
think was the manager, but who actually who actually ran
the team. And that's another thing. I like what Joe
some of the things that Joe Espota has done, and
Dana Brown, but I'm not sure that I would want
either one of them to be the commandant of the

(01:14:40):
United States Marine Corps because I just I just don't
know if they can handle it, you know, I really don't.
And and as far as having Fromber back next year,
you know, I don't know if they can going to
be able to sign him. But my god, who's going
to pitch? You know, blinde uncle? Was he coming back?

(01:15:02):
We're getting so many guys injured with I don't know
how they're going to be able to elbow their way
into the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (01:15:09):
Well, I mean we wondered the same thing this year, Ronnie.
Appreciate the call. I mean, we were wondering coming into
this year where you trade away Kyle Tucker and it's
a uh oh, that's a signaling that maybe you're not rebuilding,
but you're willing to take a step back if that
means that you can take a couple of steps forward
here in the next year or two. But the Astros
continue to find themselves in first place, now even further

(01:15:31):
in first place.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
But don't take it for granted, and don't back off man.

Speaker 7 (01:15:34):
But the one thing again, you know I say this
all the time, all right, guys, we get it. Joe
Spot and Dana Brown are not aj Hinch and Jeff Luna.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
We get it.

Speaker 7 (01:15:43):
And Luno had his faults when it came to dealing
with situations like this and situations with the media.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
So base I have zero issue with. I think. I mean,
Joe's in his second year, right, good, I could take
you back. Do we forget how Hinch was in Arizona?
Well you have the right players here.

Speaker 7 (01:16:00):
People are like, the hell are you hiring this guy for?

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
Turned out pretty good? Right, It's amazing concept. If you
know how to manage tasks and lead players and you
get good players. What a combination. What a combination it is, right,
What a combination. And then and I listen, Dana Brown's
a good base one. You know how people judging Dana
Brown most of the time by an interview, but by
the fact that he likes to use the word grind
and that's his team that he's given you. A coach

(01:16:24):
speaks sometimes, which is okay.

Speaker 7 (01:16:26):
He literally sounds like a college football coach at the end,
and it's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
And don't go keep pepper and pepper and try to
get something out of him. But you know what, that's
the way it works. But he should be so we
can't be basing guys off interviews. I got to we
had a basement off how they handle it, and apparently
Joe Spot handled this situation with them. I'm sure Dana
was involved in how they're going to handle that conversation
with those two and salads are and Frober and in truth,
how you're gonna handle Fromber first, Wow, Salazar is trying

(01:16:51):
to just fit his way in and go about it.
So and Ronnie made a good point. It's so weird
how the Oakland Raiders of the seventies and the Oakland
both playing in the same ballpark in Oakland, Alameda County
Coliseum had the exact same thing. And I know the
Raiders used to fight because Stabler and I sat down
for three hours in blocks in Mississippi and he walked
me through it personally. And the Oakland A's Reggie Jackson

(01:17:15):
and Ronnie to answer your question as a guy with
the Oakland A connection and now with Billy there just
from the history even though Billy wasn't there, Billy Bean
meaning the GM just and a guy who was a
fanatic Reggie Jackson and growing up in that big red
machine in Oakland A's every year the Yankees mixed in
as well, is how they policed it. I don't think
it was one Bando's kicking. You've heard it all the time.

(01:17:37):
Billy Martin also managed there, but Bando Dick Williams was
a hardcore old school guy, Bando fighting Jackson Jackson and
tennis tennis and Bert Campaniras, Bert camp and Airs throwing
a baseball bat at a picture when he got hit
one time. I mean right at the mound. They were,
they misfits with talent raiders, same way Ted HENDRICKX and

(01:17:58):
Phil Villapiano, I mean, all of beating into a different drum,
riding a horse on the field is I think it
was a Ben Davidson or Ted Hendricks and maybe it
was Ted Hendricks did before practice and John Madden making
sure they police themselves, but they knew the rules. Come on, yeah,
what are we doing around here? We're gonna throw the
ball over the fence. Make sure you can go get it,
and they did. So you don't have to be like them,

(01:18:18):
but it's okay to have a little bit of h
a little bit of fire on your belly and a
little bit of you know, a little bit of p
and vinegar. And that's why, that's what, that's.

Speaker 7 (01:18:29):
Why Madden too supposedly he was notorious for at the
facility he would have a burrito and one hand and
a bottle of Maylock's In the next I.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Can tell you John Robinson shared a lot of John
Madden's stories. They were best friends, my hand up together,
John Robinson right up there in northern California, best friends
forever from Daily City area and and John. The reason
why I know Madden did it because John rabs John
Madden and John Robinson were the same guy with different

(01:18:58):
laughs names, so we'd get the if John Madden had
something going on with his raiders. I assure you John
Robinson had a very similar approach to how he treated us.
We didn't have any rules. Show up on time, play
your ass off, and don't embarrass the university. Those were three.

Speaker 8 (01:19:14):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
You could have your hair down to your ass, you
could grow a beer, it did not matter. Show up
on time, play your ass off, and don't embarrass yourself
for the university. Lo and behold worked out pretty good
for us.

Speaker 7 (01:19:25):
Well, continue this conversation just a little bit longer, but
I do want to get into the last night's game,
so we'll do all of that, and also get able
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Maybe maybe I can if we got able.

Speaker 7 (01:19:41):
Yeah, I was gonna say, if there's somebody out there
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you know, with an eye in at the end, you're
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try to take the series. A little bit later on
this evening, Spencer Arraghetti the newest astro to go on
the il elbow inflammation for him. Jaden Murray called up
in his place, and the NFL kicks off tonight. Cowboys

(01:20:52):
and the Super Bowl champion Eagles gonna play each other
in Philadelphia. Talked a little bit about last night's game
talked of course, you know the fromber. Just another day
of that with him, and Saysar Salas arm and we
can continue that conversation if you want. At someone three
two one two five seven ninety but Able on the
Heights wants to weigh in.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Able.

Speaker 19 (01:21:13):
Good morning, Hey, good morning guys. I got a couple
of questions for you. Then I'll hang up, but listen
to you know what your thoughts are on last night
on the broadcast, I heard a couple of reports about
you saw Prety is possibly making a comeback this year,
and you know, if he does, I mean, where would
you put him? You know, I don't know if you
shipped over Correy at a second. Don't know Carey has ever
placed second or Totel Tuba in the left field and

(01:21:35):
have PADI's field, you know, play second base. There was
a couple of reports that he's done that before in
the past. Not sure me it would be a good
problem to have, but just wanted to get your thoughts
on what you would do there and do we have
any information on Pater's return? You know, I just don't
think a prayer is our guy for the ninth in
een you know, last night was just too close for comfort.

(01:21:57):
And with that, I'll hang up and listen and let
me know your thoughts on those.

Speaker 7 (01:22:00):
No, I appreciate the call able when it comes to parretis,
he's going to go to Florida, continue his rehab, do
some baseball activities. I know he was out there yesterday
doing a little bit of light running, fielding some grounders,
all of that kind of stuff. That is as long
a long shot to return. And it's the same deal
with Hater too. I mean, he's still no throw I
think that this weekend he could start throwing again if

(01:22:23):
you wanted to, but they might just hold him off
until next week. And I mean, he's still a guy
that you're what two weeks left in the regular season
after this weekend, So don't really know if you would
have him ready for you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
I mean maybe if you really think he's gonna after all,
and then he's got to do the build up. Do
you think he'll be ready?

Speaker 7 (01:22:41):
I mean, and even if he comes back from what
I've understood is he would be limited to no more
than an inning.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Yeah, my hope is there. I'm planning on the fact
that you're not gonna have hater in the postseason, and
that's I mean, it's also he's not close right now
to being ready. Let's put it that way. Well, read
between the lines.

Speaker 7 (01:22:57):
While you went out and got Carlos Korea two getting
back to Parreta.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Well not only that, but you also you also went
out and got Craig Kimball a Kimbrel. Well he's not.
You still went and got another body and a player
who's who's had phenomenal postseason success at times. Right he
just has he's been on World Series team. So that's
one thing to answer the other question about paratist, Dana

(01:23:20):
Brown said he started to do some baseball stuff yesterday basically,
so I don't know. If you get either guy back,
it's a bonus. And where would Partis play. They'd find
a spot for him if he's healthy, because the bat's
too valuable. If that means, if that means that Paradis

(01:23:40):
plays some second base or d h is at times
when Jordan plays left field and al two VA's at
second base, or crazy as it may seem, if Walker
needs some rest there, you move around and Paradis or
Korea either one grab the first base glove and the
other one plays third. I just know this. You find
places for bats. The key is here. I want that problem,

(01:24:02):
all right. I'd love to have the problem where Paratus
is back healthy and that Hammy and he didn't get
surgery and rehabit to the part where he can contribute,
give me all that the problem is. I'm not. I'm
more worried about not getting him back than i am.
What am I going to do if he's back, because
I'll find a place for him with eight dudes that
are coming to or nine guys should I say that
are coming to the place.

Speaker 7 (01:24:20):
That's a pleasant surprise if you get him back for
that reason, And I mean and I would probably have again.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Was left for dead. We thought until spring, right they were.

Speaker 7 (01:24:27):
Talking about having the surge of the repairents. So that
tells you all you need to know, yep, And so
get it back. I always say this, I'm going with
what I got, And if Spencer Eraghetty gets healthy again
and that this isn't a long one and he's able
to come back and give you that, and these injuries
and with Garcia and Javier, they continue to improve, and

(01:24:47):
you're able to get hater Myers and obviously Myers is
the closest one, but hater and and paradis back. I
need a good problem to have it. Well, man, paradis
where am I going to find his? Bo I'll find
a spot for your ass, I got newshe. I'm find
a spot for a guy wh puts a ball in
play and can threaten you with the long ball too.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
I'm all in. They'll find a spot for at the cups,
damn right, all day, every day with probably a little
less power than Schwarber, but you get the point.

Speaker 7 (01:25:15):
They sent They send him to the Arizona Fall League
before that World Series in sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Yeah, they sure did. And look now he's gonna be
the MVP of the National League. Seems like it. I mean,
I know there's Otani. You can give to a Tawny
every year for the next fifteen. This is an outlier.
You're what. Schwarber's brought everything over and above the long
ball to that clubhouse and that team. That's the perfect
example when a guy comes in since he's been there,

(01:25:39):
he just fits. I mean, you're not talking about Bryce
Harper's your MVP. Talk about Kyle Schwarber. He's been amazing
and he does not get cheated man, it's crazy. The
thing great to.

Speaker 7 (01:25:50):
Have for them someone three two one two five seven
ninety the number to get in John on the northwest side, John, good.

Speaker 8 (01:25:56):
Morning, Hey, good Mark, Buz.

Speaker 9 (01:25:58):
You know.

Speaker 20 (01:25:59):
Listening to you gat it reminded me the Astros had
a player man twenty eighteen, Ken Giles. Ken Giles did.
He did a lot of stuff that from is doing.
He he couldn't handle emotionally. Come out the blood pen
and he pitched and things wouldn't go right, and he'd
give up runs and everything.

Speaker 10 (01:26:17):
From the start, Yeah, let himself in the face.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
It was like, all you don't need to do that,
can because there'll be enough people doing that for you.

Speaker 7 (01:26:28):
All right, what a knuckle head. We can't have this guy,
but go ahead, John.

Speaker 20 (01:26:31):
Yeah, you know, and and you know, I'm sure most
people I did. I felt bad for him. I wanted
to see him make it because he was trying so hard,
but emotionally he was the wreck. I think one night,
I think A J. Hinch went out there to get
the ball. He didn't from him, he would he didn't want.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
To give up the ball.

Speaker 20 (01:26:47):
But I think what really did it when he went
to the Doug guy and started beating his head against
the wall.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Man.

Speaker 20 (01:26:53):
The Astros players were standing back looking like, man, get
this guy out of here. And I think Luno finally
trade him to uh Toronto.

Speaker 8 (01:27:02):
Man.

Speaker 20 (01:27:02):
He probably played over another couple of years or so
something like that, but he's not in baseball anymore. You know,
when you do things like that, you can't handle it emotionally,
and you keep doing things like that, you find yourself
out of baseball.

Speaker 8 (01:27:16):
Nobody will sign you.

Speaker 20 (01:27:17):
I mean, we know we can think of a few
examples of players that snedge and all kinds of stuff
like that. You know their career ended prematurely. So if
Fromby is listening, you better you better get your act together, son,
because pretty soon when the fans turn on you, you're
gonna get You're gonna have to get out of here

(01:27:38):
when we start turning on you. And listen. Sean, all
due respect Fromber, he's a good pitcher, but he ain't
no very Land and he ain't them as in their prime.
He's had times where he's up and down. He's okay,
he could be great if he gets his head together.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
You know, yeah, you'll ever you'll never hear me him
in that category. He got a long way to go
before he even stiffs that category. And I never call
anybody great that mentally isn't caught up. I mean, you
can be great stuff, a great picture doesn't get sideways
like he's that. Damn, he's got great stuff. But you're
you're right, there's there's no he's not those guys yet.
He's got stuff to be one, but he's gonna have

(01:28:19):
to get his emotions under control if he ever wants
to extend it like a Verlinder. He's not even he's
not in that area code yet, not even close.

Speaker 20 (01:28:27):
Yeah, you know, I give him a live break because
I know he went to his hometown and he built
the people and live cheritchill over there, so I know
he got a good side about himself.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Well, that has nothing to do John that is a
personally and all his charity and all the great way
I'm sure Fromber's a hell of a guy. I'm sure
he's charitable, and his country people and his folks love him,
the countrymen and everybody he's given, I'm sure he's awesome.
That has nothing to do with it being a great guy.
But I can tell you this though, what he did
the other night wasn't right, and that's not a good teammate.

(01:28:58):
Doesn't make him a bad guy. I'm sure he's fun
to hang around. This is just simple baseball related and
in baseball related terms, he's got a tough en up
mentally when things go bad. Period. That's as easy as
the world to see. It's not personal. I'm sure he's
a charitable, good guy. Right now, we're talking baseball, and
I don't care about that, right.

Speaker 20 (01:29:15):
Yeah, you did cross the line a little bit when
you start hitting your own teammate, Be honest with you.
I loved him, you know. I loved that era of baseball,
but I didn't like it too much when pitchers got
mad and they start throwing at dad as head. You know,
it's a no tradition. I didn't like that too much
because a big if you hit the guy, you could
give it, you know, But yeah, definitely don't. And it

(01:29:38):
does look like from a did that on purpose. Man,
You can't. You can't hit your own teammate. He hit
the other player.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
But there you go, John, thank you, brother, appreciate it.
Good stuff. And you know what, Oh, head hunting should
never be allowed ever. And you know what, I'll give
Salas are a lot of credit. He handled it like
a champ. Can you imagine if that's Carlton Fisk or
one of those. It's got a j it's got, it's got,
it's got a red ass. Prazinsky said it yesterday.

Speaker 7 (01:30:06):
Prasinsky said, I'm rifling that ball right at his knees
and then I'm telling him throw whatever you want. I'll
catch it. Yeah, just throw whatever you want. I mean
you run calling anything.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Yeah, you run into a guy that's that's got it's
got some you know, like I said, a red ass
that that that looks different. And I'm sure Salazar's got
it in. But the way he handled it not to
even though Fromber embarrassed him pulling this with Jason Veritech, No, well,
Veritech would have gone all a rod on his on
him and tried to the way he would have called

(01:30:36):
time out. He turned the umpire called time out, and
if Frober would have said but he would have walked
his ass out to Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. So
and it's just sometimes that's needed. We'll go find out
just how mentally tell Frombris to overcome this, and they're
gonna need him. It isn't that in the big scheme
of things is gonna be a big deal though, But
if it fractures a team, it's a big deal. We
don't know how that's gonna happen. I think that they
probably took care of it. The question is, is fromber

(01:30:57):
over it? Well? Who knows? We'll go find out and
how deep was the postgame talk or whenever they got
there come to Jesus together. How deep was it go?
How deep did it cover? And who was the one
raising their hands saying my bad. That's what I want
to know too, because I think we know where that started.

Speaker 7 (01:31:16):
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Now I am. I'm I'm like the finger food appetizer chips,
you know, throw a fredo in their chips to get
the dips. Sometimes to the point on college game day
or during Saturday and studies get up put the spread.

(01:31:49):
It always has the daisy French onion dip or the
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Ninety you're a golf snob. Of course, you're a pull
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get annoyed with those types of people.

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if you don't get the right ip.

Speaker 7 (01:33:30):
If I if I order some sort of light beer
that is, you know, beneath their standards, and they make
the comment, I always go, hey, let me ask you
a question.

Speaker 6 (01:33:39):
Are you drinking it?

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
Yeah? Are you the one drinking it? But you are
a golf snob?

Speaker 8 (01:33:43):
Yes? Yeah? You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
One of the greatest things about golf when golf is
when you're not paying for a round the two. Yeah,
I'm the complimentary golf is the greatest thing. I'm the
king of that. But you're so, you're a golf stop.
So you're not going to go out and play a
goat track in forty five degrees to try and improve
your game, no, you now, Oh, but get invited to
the big boys, the Big Easy at Covey, at the

(01:34:06):
Big Easy Ranch. Then you're going, yeah, yeah, can you
pick it clean? Or you are you a divot guy
all the time? Clean?

Speaker 7 (01:34:12):
You're a clean pick. I'm not a divid guy. If
I'm a divot guy, that means that shoulders dipped and it's.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
It's not your style. Too many chili dips. That's a
chili dip. All right. I'm just making sure a soft
partner that's not afraid to go out in weather, some
British open weather and get going.

Speaker 7 (01:34:25):
I'm just saying that, Look, if it's gonna be worth
my while, then it needs to be worth my while.
If the elements are against me.

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
Face him, dude, rain gear in your bag? Can you
keep rain gear in your bag all the time? Not
all the time, but I mean I've got to load
them up, Danny, unpaved gear coming your way soon. We'll
have your rain gear ready to go.

Speaker 7 (01:34:44):
Then, you know what, Then then I will rock it,
and I will I will brave proudly see in the
it's funny you mentioned the beer snob, I feel like
that on the you know, the hierarchy of snobbery of
the people you can't stand. Beer snobs are right there,
music snobs right there to where it's in this day
and age. Oh well, what was your favorite album? I
don't know. In the age of stream music, who the

(01:35:07):
hell even has an album anymore?

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
And what does it matter?

Speaker 7 (01:35:10):
I still collect I like a couple of songs, you know,
and I say that I'm a fan of their music. Okay, fine,
that I am. But my favorite is when you do
that and they want you to name the fifteen songs.
I'm sorry that I don't know the deepest of deep
cuts that nobody knows about that maybe every once in
a while you hear on like classic Vinyl or something.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
I don't know what's the worst snob though, Is it
a beer snob, car snob? Food snob? Car snobs are
up there too, car stop boots, beer snob? What other snobs?
Are there food snops? Food snobs for sure. Sometimes that's
just all They don't eat music. You know, the guy
who sits in this chair from below? Yeah, well, I mean,

(01:35:48):
you know, mister you know, it's fine, it's fine, you know.
He he has coined himself as being mister Texas, but
then brisket is not one of his favorites. I'm like, brother, Okay,
you cannot coin yourself mister Texas unless you love three things.

Speaker 7 (01:36:02):
Brisket's one of them. Text Max is the next. Aren't you?

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
Aren't you contradicting what exactly you said about somebody questioning
your beer? Hey, are you eating it?

Speaker 7 (01:36:10):
It's not to say that I'm not that I'm not
free from hypocrisy at times.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
But you're saying, you're just saying you don't care if
he doesn't like brisket, But don't claim you're mister Texas
if you don't like That's okay, that's fair, Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 7 (01:36:24):
And the other one is the orange and white beacon
of hope that serves great burgers.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
The orange and white beacon of hope that.

Speaker 7 (01:36:31):
Has amazing fries too, and may or may not have
fancy ketchup in a in a red pack and then
also spicy one in a.

Speaker 1 (01:36:37):
Black one serves great, Pattill. I'll give you that, brother percent. Now.
So I'm just wondering golf snob and I don't know
what is a golf stop. I guess a golf snob
is a golf snob the guy who won't play public courses,
or is the guy that when you go to the
country club, looks at you different because maybe you're sure
it's a little flat, like got a little more color

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than his base.

Speaker 7 (01:36:59):
There's all of those Oh god, if you don't belong
in our country club, right, that snobs a bother something. Yeah, now,
just here to play around of golf, man, I ain't
bothering you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
Yeah, my shirt's tucked in. I'm good to go, mingo,
I'll play. I'll play a thirty nine dollars look around
and I'll play it a private course from whatever, and
then the best one too, is right there.

Speaker 7 (01:37:15):
Then you know, you do the whole guy's kind of
sharking you a little bit, and you can be like,
all right, you want to go out there and play.
That's because we can find out who's got the game
and who doesn't no problem. You can look the part
all you want. Yeah, I look the part and I
am the part there. There's absolutely no doubt. And always
look for a guy who has iron covers on his
golf clubs. Oh, I'm hammering that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
If a guy you do that, then yes, for you've
be able to play like betting, if you want to
guaranteed win on your betting on your round, it's overcome.
They find the guy that's got iron covers on his
golf clubs. When you find that guy, yeah, you take
his money. Bet bet everything, empty your bank account, bet
that guy because mister beat you.

Speaker 7 (01:37:53):
It's it's misdirection, is what it is. Because you're wanting
to show that you you've gotten everything out of whatever
catalog there is, whatever golf's door there is. You know,
Oh hey, you know I look like the guys on tour.
They don't have iron I can't take an iron cover guy, Seriously,
I just can't.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
No, I can't, I can't. I can't. The car and
at the dog on vallet stand what yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:38:17):
You see it's like also like I remember once we
were at a bar and I wouldn't even call them
a biker gang because it was a bunch of It
was a bunch of no I'm not I'm not going
against bikers, but it's just it was a bunch of
middle age you know, Chad's and John's that were you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
We call those American black American Express Harley.

Speaker 7 (01:38:35):
And now and that was the thing. And they're they're
outside revving the inn.

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
They wouldn't go to a dive bar to save their life,
but they've got there was it was a beach from
one in gallons all together. But they're they're those are
the ones who aren't that they're they're not going to
go by themselves to stur just because well that's.

Speaker 7 (01:38:54):
The drinking call me on that. You're you know, you're
enjoying yourself. And then you continue to hear the you know,
you know, it's like all right, fine, you do it
about one more time and then finally the third one
is when you take a sip of your beer and
you kind of put it down a little forceful and
you just kind of look over and you're just like, what's.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Going on here?

Speaker 7 (01:39:11):
Like we know you're here, Like we know you paid
one hundred ger for that bike.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
It's fine. That's the that's the American Express. That's not
the true biker, that's the American Express. Harley guy. They
lack America. They have they have their.

Speaker 7 (01:39:25):
Bikes trailered to sturges and then you know, hey, drop
it off around the corner and well.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
Hey dude, we stay up till minute. Well can I
get a Can I get a warm shower before?

Speaker 6 (01:39:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
You know what I'm saying, Man, you're braving the road
the thing. That's why you got what it is. I
think you're gonna be part of the angels doing that
all in good fun. Brother, of course, of course it is.
But I'm just saying, So, what's your biggest snobbery?

Speaker 7 (01:39:48):
I would probably say if I had a ranking of snobs,
it would be beer for you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
Yeah, so you're a beer snob. About what is your
biggest a mom? Yeah, the biggest where people look at it.
He's kind of a now, but that is it? Golf?

Speaker 6 (01:40:01):
Food?

Speaker 8 (01:40:02):
Food?

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:40:03):
Okay, Like you order your steak, you order your steak
anything above medium.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
You're you're judging them?

Speaker 7 (01:40:08):
Yes, I am, of course i am, because i I'm
especially if it's a nice place, I'm like, then you
might as well just ordered the burger Man and I'm
sure the burger would be really good.

Speaker 1 (01:40:18):
But I'm you do go hipocrite. It's like, well, are
you eat it?

Speaker 20 (01:40:21):
Dan?

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
I mean I get that. Yeah, it's okay. I'm not
free from it. There you go. Who is?

Speaker 7 (01:40:25):
Yeah, exactly who is? I'm a walking contradiction at times
like okay, you know, fine, I'm new here.

Speaker 6 (01:40:31):
I get it.

Speaker 7 (01:40:31):
That's fine, you know, it's it's all good.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
Trevor telling me I'll include him in a conversation.

Speaker 7 (01:40:36):
Damn right, we will, because we'll go out to Buffalo
and we'll talk with Trevor. And you know, if you're here,
you're in Buffalo, you're in Sheboygan hell.

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
Wherever did you go?

Speaker 8 (01:40:46):
Boy?

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
Get good place?

Speaker 7 (01:40:47):
Play golf and sab boy with the with the Kenosha
swingers or whatever they were.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Gotta love some boy, you know. By the way, have
you heard of us? Polka? Polka? By the way, yeah,
my favorite TRIPLEI you gotta be on at like six thirty.
I try to involve you in the conversation. Now you're twenty.
The guy's still patiently waiting.

Speaker 7 (01:41:05):
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I know, as I've said, show of honesty. Alright, complain
you confess you did it. Oh yeah, I feel you, Yeah,
I feel you. Yeah, I'll wear it. You can come
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That's DM auto leasing dot com. But the Shawn Salisbury
Show continued, you know that's John Candy did of course,
what's what was his name again? Polenski Gus Polenski. Yeah, Hey,
how are you doing? Gus Polenski. Yeah, he was perfect
for that role. Oh he's so good. Sheboygan. Sheboygan's not
far from Kohler. Is that correct? That's what Black Wolf

(01:42:25):
run Whistling Straits.

Speaker 7 (01:42:26):
And the thing is, you ever noticed that like towns
in certain states, they're named after where you can't say
them unless you sound like you're from there. Kenosha, you know, Sheboygan,
what's it Waukeshaw? Those Boston's the same way it is Massachusetts. Yeah,
you know Falmouth, Newton?

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
Yeah? And here, yeah, kind of like here where you say,
there's no way it's pronounced that way, and that's how
they pronounce it there.

Speaker 7 (01:42:54):
Well, it's like one of your buddies on air with
our sister station in l A and they called it
Blanco Techs And I almost messaged them and said, hey, brother,
here's the thing you need to know that Texas, we
very much lean into the text mes here that if
there are Spanish words, we're going to say them as
white as possible, Blanco, like Manchaka Road and Austin Manshaq.

(01:43:16):
Is that what it's called manshak That's what people there call.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
It yeah, okay, is like you guys call Philip or
San Philippi, Yeah, San philipp san Felipe.

Speaker 7 (01:43:25):
Now we we know the proper pronunciation. We just we
choose to do it our own way.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
Here, you guys try to keep up humble with the
silent h Yeah, might say you guys, but I now
have gotten it even even you know, Houston for some
is Houston Houston? Yeah, like well the why yeah Houston.

Speaker 7 (01:43:44):
Like you know, if you're from Atlanta or you've been
there for a while, you don't say Atlanta, you say Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
So it's almost like two wins at the end. Like
Clemson South Carolina, it says a little MP. It's not Clemson,
it's Clemson. There's an MP. I've always said it with Z,
but the MP I'm talking about not at the Yeah. Yeah,
And I've asked somebody who went to school. Then it's
the M and the P. There's a little you hear
a little bit of a P at Clemson, there's a
P before the sh. They can keep their dollar bills.

(01:44:12):
Oh judging them now too, huh, of course I am
users Dabo, what a yah? They scored a sixty five.
We scored a fifty eight.

Speaker 7 (01:44:20):
Did you love Brian Kelly's response, Well, we dominated him
in the second half. Maybe he didn't see the second half.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
I was like, yeah, how about that little how about
that little dig on both sides? Damn right? I like it?

Speaker 8 (01:44:30):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:44:30):
Of course, Dad like gamesmanship. I mean Dabo's press conference.
Like a buddy of mine did radio up there, and
he would be on and in those college towns, those
college markets where you know, it's so huge college sports,
where it's the head coach gives his weekly press conference,
and they'll duck out to get those press conferences, and
Dabos is like forty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
He said that.

Speaker 7 (01:44:49):
Every single time, he'd start packing his bag because he
was like, I'm not coming back on.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
I'm done.

Speaker 7 (01:44:54):
It's gonna be the guys after me as soon as
they wrap, or we'll just go to commercial. Then it's
them all right. Yeah? Is that it's Dabbo? You know
up there? Ah, you know we're playing against Charleston Southern
this weekend. You know, don't overlook Charleston Southern. Now, that's
a good program. You know, coach whatever's got got those
guys playing good.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
Ball, and that's a Lou Holtz approach. Yeah, Mark Mark
Rick used to do that too, Mark Rick forty seven
point favorites and you're worried about.

Speaker 7 (01:45:18):
Right, He'd come up there with the full too deep
and be going over it. And it was always the
same with every single kicker. Their kickoff guy, ah, their
kickoff guy. He can boom it out of the back
of the end zone, whereas Kirby would just get up
there and just go, you know, maybe a quick you know,
all right, we got Florida this week. You know, coach
Napier's got a good team. What do you guys got it?

Speaker 1 (01:45:38):
Yeah, don't tell me you're concerned when you're forty seven
point favorites.

Speaker 7 (01:45:43):
I I always like the lectures from Saban too, you know,
the emphasis for this team and what you have to
be in life and what you want out of life.
Like where he'd get.

Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
Like he's disrespect somebody, but any of his words, he'll
sometimes basically say now we should kick their ass without
saying it. That's what he's a genius.

Speaker 7 (01:46:03):
The one guy you know in the second half, you know,
you can get some guys who says they're going to
get a chance to play. You also to another tell
for Sabman if he ever does get back in the
coaching listen for this, it was the podium taps. You
could hear like he'd start tapping the podium.

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
When his passion kicks in right right when he wants
to emphasize the point.

Speaker 7 (01:46:20):
And then he also you know, both hands out in
front of him doing like kind of like mini circles
with them and how we want to play in the
way we want to play.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
If you want to know if this guy's if he's
going to play, well, my question is what kind of
value are you bringing to the program. That's that's him.
The program. We have a process here at this program,
and you know kids that want to transfer and I
get parents all the time talking to me about always
my kid gonna play? Is he gonna get well? Are
you bringing value to the program? Right? That's him, That's

(01:46:49):
no doubt. I don't think he's done. I don't think
so either. And if Lincoln Riley doesn't work out at
s I hope Lincoln does because I love link I do.
But if he doesn't, the very few teams that I
think Saban would come back to college for, whether it's
Alabama or whether he figs my work is done, there
go somewhere else. But u T would have been one.

(01:47:10):
And if if USC's job opened up, we should write
a blank check sign it, tell him to come. You
got a fit LA recruiting base. He's the best recruiter
in the world. When when NIL is not involved, now
that they're going to they would accompany him with nil
open checkbook. They'd be the national champions within three years. Guarantee.

(01:47:33):
That's my program cheating him out of years. Say again,
because he ain't going back to a program to build.
He'd go back to a program that just needs fooling
and adjustice. If he's coming back, he's coming back to
No disrespect did Alabama, But Nick Saban's recruiting base better
if he's a coach there as opposed to well, look

(01:47:54):
how he recruited when he was at Bama.

Speaker 7 (01:47:55):
I mean, hell, one year is top twenty of the
you know, seven of the top twenty guys here in
this to Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Where'd they go Tuscle. I'll be able to get that,
get this and then dominate California. So I don't know
if we're getting way ahead of ourselves. I don't know,
But if I was, I'd say dude, he'd be the
first call if you were going to move on. Only
call the first call I get is to save, and said,
was gonna take a twenty million yere, it's not for five, Foster,
twenty twenty million for five.

Speaker 7 (01:48:18):
Hey, we lost forty three to ten. But you know what, guys,
we were so close.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
Twenty twenty million for five in that bank you see
down down the movie Heat. You know that they're robbing
that bank accounts yours for nil. Whatever you want to do, dude,
I'm all in, but I'm hoping. Lincoln, No, no high
powered rifles needed for you. He is the high powered,
right said, yeah, he he is DeNiro, he is Val
Kilm and rest in peace. Hey, Brandon Trevor, hang on there,
we're gonna we're gonna involve you into conversation.

Speaker 7 (01:48:43):
Here short what he said right there, he said, it's
the Kenosha Kickers, Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
Jbar and Barbecue. Though you damn right did Jay bar?
See what I did there? How about you you saving
the show?

Speaker 2 (01:48:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Save what I did there for it? But jbarm twenty two,
one Leland Street, The change up. We talk about the venue.
We talk about the great customer service, talk about the
great food, but I'd like to know how many of
those that are in the barbecue space match that well,
because I mean this city, how many do really?

Speaker 6 (01:49:13):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
I mean, look, you tasted the food yesterday. I did,
and I've.

Speaker 7 (01:49:17):
Tasted it numerous times. And it's also to jbarm Is
there a line? Is it going outside?

Speaker 9 (01:49:23):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:49:23):
Is it a hey, where am I going to sit? Well,
we don't really have anywhere fee to sit. No, it's
none of those things huge veneo irritant. There is that
narrow irritants if anything. You're going there and you're having
a barbecue experience the way that it's supposed to be.
You're going to be sitting comfortably, you're going to be
taking in all the smells, you're gonna be eating the
great food, and then you're saying to yourself, well this tea,

(01:49:43):
you know it's it's it's nice and good. But I
see that full service bar over there. Oh they got
craft cocktails. I want to take one of those.

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
Anytime I've ever eaten there or had their food, the
best in the business. And you know how I'm about
comparing to other stuff. I want to know if I'm
if I'm really right about this and I am, and
so are you, and so were they? Is that I
never leave Hungary and I never leave empty handed? Does
that make sense all the about? So that goes to
show you that you're getting a big servings, but you're

(01:50:09):
also saying once is not enough. I gotta have more.
And that's the never left empty handed even after leaving
full So's Jbarn Barbecue dot com. Check out the menu.
You don't need reservations. You'll love it.

Speaker 7 (01:50:21):
You leave there unsatisfied, that's your problem. It's not theirs.
Mister Toomey sets the tone, haffe a rash in the back.
Those guys make it all happen for you. And that
staff top notch everything, the venue, the food, the drink,
just all of it. And you got the beer garden outside,
the full parking outside to right there, twenty two oh
one Leland Street. Jbarm Barbecue, jbar m Barbecue.

Speaker 8 (01:50:44):
Why you're back?

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (01:50:48):
Get back at it.

Speaker 7 (01:50:51):
Trevor in Buffalo wants to weigh in. Trevor, good morning,
what's up guys.

Speaker 14 (01:50:56):
I will say that I am a chicken wing snub
myself or a snob. If you guys ever come up
here in Buffalo. There are a couple different spots that
I can show you where we can get some good
seventy five wings.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
But uh, I've been to the original. I've been to
the original. You have, Yeah, I sure have.

Speaker 14 (01:51:12):
I feel like a lot of people have. Yeah, that
is a that is a pretty good one. But there
are a couple other spots that are kind of you know,
hidden hit.

Speaker 7 (01:51:20):
Again, the locals will tell you duffs, and the locals
will be like, this is.

Speaker 13 (01:51:25):
A great one.

Speaker 8 (01:51:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:51:26):
Great.

Speaker 13 (01:51:27):
I would go with bar Bill in.

Speaker 14 (01:51:29):
The town of East Aurora, just outside of town.

Speaker 1 (01:51:31):
However, one of the great tailgating football game day places
in the world is Buffalo, Adams, could.

Speaker 14 (01:51:38):
You name another city where they jumped through flaming tables.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
And if you like a cold beer and people the
guys that don't care that are just passionate. There's passion everywhere,
but from the wings and the eating and how early
they get it doesn't matter what the weather is. And
I know fans are like that everywhere, but there's just this,
There's a special atmosphere there there There just is. And
I'm always thinking Buffalo's who I grew up watching the
French connection line and I'm always thinking about My favorite

(01:52:03):
player growing up was Bob McAdoo and the Buffalo Braves.
And then you apply that to Buffalo. That is, if
you like a working town football, tough town, they have
got to win a super Bowl at some point that
place will celebrate the roof. Yes, no, you had no
doubt about that.

Speaker 14 (01:52:20):
But Josh Stanley coming wearing those the uh you know,
the old old school.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
Buffalo Yeah, sweet too and those, but everything about the
Buffalo uniforms football, basketball, and hockey. When the Buffalo Braves
were there, off the charts, their trifectives off the charts,
when they had those people drinking molten.

Speaker 7 (01:52:40):
Oh, it's the best. He got the guy out there
that cooks pizza. And in a filing cabinet, I watched
Peyton Mannings wrong. I was covering the game. I watched
Manning's longest run of his career on a naked boot.
He ran and put that neck back, that long back,
ran like fifty two yards. Devilis. He made such a
great fake. The whole field went to the right. He
ran old stretch fake to the left. I'm staying on
the sides watching he's going and he's moving it about

(01:53:02):
running about a seven five forty speed. By the time
it was over, I asked about he goes was laboring
because he's looking at.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
Where is everybody? Finally to hold up that forehead for
a reason. Yeah, Trevor, great wings, great place, man. What
else is on your mind? And good luck to your
Buffalo teams this year, Buffalo Bills. You think maybe you.

Speaker 14 (01:53:20):
Know was thinking about the ending of the game last night.

Speaker 13 (01:53:22):
You know, the.

Speaker 14 (01:53:23):
Astros proved that they could score eight runs. I mean,
they took advantage of a lot of the Yankees' mistakes.
And we just need to see this more of a
more of a consistent pattern with these guys, because we
know what they can do it, they just need to
be more consistent with it.

Speaker 13 (01:53:35):
And also a little.

Speaker 14 (01:53:36):
Trivia for you. This was the first Astros victory against
the Yankees in Houston since Game two of the twenty
twenty two als. Yes, I thought I just throw that
out there, just a crazy, crazy stat that is three years.

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
That's a lot. I had no idea that A great number.

Speaker 15 (01:53:51):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
You stuff, Trevor. I appreciate it, buddy.

Speaker 7 (01:53:53):
I have a great one man, and Uh, I know
that TK and Blumber brought that up, and I know
we're gitting here that stat last night. Yeah, and I
know that we're gonna get Gordian here in a second.
But one thing that somebody brought up earlier, and it
was just such a great point, is you can get
in the Yankees' heads very easily. And you even saw
it last night. For the guys that got thrown out

(01:54:14):
of the game. They were also yelling at the home
plate umpire last night, but they were still yelling at
Ramon Dejezu's the guy that was bad on Monday night
for both teams, but the Yankees were still getting after him.
So you fear the Astros over there. You're just kind
of like, hey, keep you on at the umpires, you know,
and then and then keep making, you know, mental mistakes
in the field and keep having Gen Carlos stand out.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
There left field.

Speaker 7 (01:54:36):
Which I texted Blumber is one call that he had
on the replay was he goes, yeah, and then here
comes Stanton, you know, on corking a shot put.

Speaker 1 (01:54:45):
To home plate. Yeah, unrealized and he didn't he said
it like rest the ball was leaving there. You go,
And I didn't know it's been that long since they
since they had beaten at Home three they got swept
and then of course that's right. You know what happened
last year, So I guess that's right. And Booney did

(01:55:05):
what he does. Get j Yeah, get your reputation for
a reason. Yeah, just he probably was tired. Man, We're
going to clubhouse. Left this thing and let brad Astmas
take care of Hey, let met the Empire of the back. Yeah,
there you go. Just you set there and noticed it, right,
like it's.

Speaker 7 (01:55:21):
Such an organization that's should be above all of that
stuff and they just have turned into complete can't.

Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
So you're also a Yankee snob too, Yes, a lot
of people when.

Speaker 7 (01:55:30):
When it comes to the rivalry in your side. I'm
definitely your side than I am. But the ones right
there in the Bronx.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
You don't have to You don't have to ask me
or tell me that twice. Yeah, and it's just had
I never owned.

Speaker 7 (01:55:40):
The only redeeming quality on that team is Aaron Judge.

Speaker 1 (01:55:44):
Aaron Judge is likable by everybody. Yes, easy to like
a player, there's no doubt, and he doesn't hurt you
in October. So the reason it's even more positive that
he takes on the team captain rolling. He's even better
than he's ever been. There's no doubt.

Speaker 7 (01:55:55):
He's just not quite as good as the other captain
that time of the year. But that's okay, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:55:59):
You know, I got new. We can't have everything in life. No,
he's not to tell you what. He's still gonna end
up in the same place as at other time. Will
good with the bust of the Hall of Fame, that's
for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:56:09):
Thursdays here on the Seawan Salisbury Show, nine am. That
means our good buddy. Courtesy a Carbach Brewing Chris Gordy.
I wonder if he's a beer snob. I bet he is.

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
You think he's a beer snob?

Speaker 6 (01:56:18):
I think so. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:56:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:56:19):
One. I think he's a college football snap, oh very
much and sec Yeah, I love which. I'm with them all.
I'm okay with that. Yeah, we'll cover it all soup
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Speaker 7 (01:57:33):
They're gonna try to take the series tonight's and the
NFL gonna kick off tonight. What do you The Cowboys
in Super Bowl champion Eagles in Philadelphia and the Texans
gonna take the field Sunday the later game, the late
afternoon games out there in La against the Rap.

Speaker 1 (01:57:49):
Are you thinking curb stop or are you thinking cowboys
got a chance.

Speaker 7 (01:57:53):
I think the Cowboys actually have a chance. You do,
like I I've told you my my cycle of Cowboys
fandom right that this is a game they win, and
then tomorrow morning you get everybody on the talking head shows.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
Are we overlooking for the Cowboys?

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
Well?

Speaker 22 (01:58:08):
The Cowboys go sixteen to know, we're gonna have to
skip a less stop by to break that down.

Speaker 7 (01:58:11):
But don't worry though, if they lose, then Stephen A.
Smith will do the same shtick that he's been doing
every since the Cowboy had a cigar. Yes, yeah, and
then I'm an HB HBCU right with Cam there talking
about it, and he'll come on. They'll introduce him, and
also he'll be doing is laughing at first, you know, gets.

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
In that big laugh. We know the routine, right, and
we know a live studio audience will be there because
they'll be at the whether It's Center, you know, you
know what I'm saying, they'll do it and they'll be
it's our next tour, right. And then at some point
in time he'll stop into Dallas and they'll have the
tour in Dallas during the middle of the season, and uh,
he'll be going off.

Speaker 7 (01:58:45):
Yeah, I know the routine. Yeah, we we know it. Well,
it's pretty much you can set your watch to it.
But I really do that you did some of the
studio segments. Let's skip back in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
I did how was that aside from the ass whoop?
And I gave him the one good deal physically or verbally.
Didn't need to give him one physically. I took that
ass away from him from the verbal side, so I
didn't need to go have to do it for physically.

Speaker 7 (01:59:08):
So uh uh.

Speaker 1 (01:59:10):
I like to think that I was one of the stats,
one of the roadblocks before Stu Skip Bayless became the
Skip Bayless. Yeah, he took he took that. Uh well,
what remember the belt belt? Yeah, yeah, he didn't take
it from me. I assure you that well. I mean,
you know, in fact, he still might have a chunk
of his ass sitting somewhere in Dallas, Texas or wherever

(01:59:31):
he's living these days.

Speaker 8 (01:59:32):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:59:32):
The saying that I have is that's one of those
where he didn't want none.

Speaker 1 (01:59:37):
Yeah, and I don't want to brag about that, Gordy,
but let me for a minute now that you reminded me.

Speaker 6 (01:59:43):
Eight and a half Eagles.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
That's a lot in the NFL. That's the equivalent of
Alabama LSU getting ready to play Tennessee Chattanooga and they're
there favored by thirty three and a half. Yeah, that's
what it is. That's a large line. And if you
get a double digit line in the NFL. It's that
that well, you saw sc play in Missouri State last week.
That's what that becomes. It's eight and a half to
open the season when you're still, you know, feeling your

(02:00:09):
way out of training camp. I know the reigning Super
Bowl champs, but how are they going to settle in
all that? Trey Wingo gave an interesting stat last year.
Do you know like the guys who go two thousand?
I mean I interviewed Tray yesterday and he gave an
interesting stat about he looked over the course of time
of two thousand yard rushers in a season because I
was talking about are they the favorite again to win?

(02:00:31):
And they are? And you know the hunger fact, all
those things that go with it, and he said to Shine,
I looked into the history of the season after two
thousand yard rushers from Derrick Henry to all of them
right the OJ all the way back to O. J. Simpson,
and he said this, the drop off is about two
yards per carry, which is significant. So the question is

(02:00:52):
with those were and we saw we saw Jalen Hurts,
Gordy and Dan take it to another level in the
Super Bowl where even though Barkley got a lot of touches.
Steve Spagnola did a great job of containing but what
did they do? They were great. Both DeVante Smith and
aj Brown get touchdowns in the game. They may have
to do a little more of that. Now, listen, it
is Saquon Barkley. He's just going by the history of

(02:01:12):
it that nobody had a better year. Now, if Barkley
goes and catches seventy five balls and rushers from fifteen
hundred yards, that's a hell of a season. The chances are, basically,
you're not getting two thousand or twenty one hundred yards
out of him. But can you get more production out
of him, using him less and preserving him and cut
the carries back a little bit but still get the
same production, but not to the tune in.

Speaker 7 (02:01:34):
Two thousand, very little chance. He repeats, there's no question.
Last year and it's never been done.

Speaker 1 (02:01:38):
We've never had to We've never had a guy rushed
for two thousand yards packing.

Speaker 22 (02:01:43):
The same GUYO. We're playing a seventeen game season. You
know how many times up here now in week seventeen's
this guy has a chance to set the franchise record
for most receiving yards.

Speaker 6 (02:01:50):
Because you're playing an extra.

Speaker 1 (02:01:52):
Game, right, it's stupid.

Speaker 22 (02:01:54):
I hate that these history books are going to be
compared to the ones of years.

Speaker 1 (02:01:57):
But no doubt I hate OJ Simpson or not like him,
whatever it is. He ran for two thousand and three
yards in a fourteen game schedule. Right, you know who
the single season rushing champ is.

Speaker 8 (02:02:08):
It's O. J.

Speaker 1 (02:02:09):
Simpson. Like it or not, it's O J. Simpson, fourteen
of them. So, but it goes significantly down. So I'm
really it's a little sidebar to keep an eye on
what happens. The key is the Cowboys can score some points.
I believe that. Now I don't know. We're still in
checking on the offense. I was about to say those
are the two I was gonna go, offensive line and
running back room. If they score points, ceedee, Lamb's gonna

(02:02:32):
have to catch about fifteen balls to do it. On
the other side of it is though, so they may.
I don't know how they're getting off the field defensively,
I honestly do not know how they're getting off the
field defense. That's right, Yeah, yeah, he'll be doing that
at lambeau Field after It takes a nice little needle
to get himself. You think Kenny, we brought you over here,

(02:02:53):
and not to just stop. You got to take on
five offensive linemen dealing with you on the defensive.

Speaker 6 (02:02:58):
Chance you get like three sacks in that position.

Speaker 7 (02:03:00):
Can we get quick Aaron Donald penetration from Yeah? Can
you turn into Aaron Donald really fast, real quick?

Speaker 1 (02:03:06):
Here? You know.

Speaker 7 (02:03:07):
We'll continue with the NFL with Chris Gordy courtesy a
Carbock Brewing. NFL Red Zone is gonna have commercials.

Speaker 8 (02:03:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (02:03:15):
There were two significant pieces of news that came out yesterday.
One is that stream East was busted by the FBI
and they've shut it down. That's the illegal streaming site
that you go to to go.

Speaker 7 (02:03:27):
Find games until somebody else shows up.

Speaker 6 (02:03:29):
But yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 22 (02:03:31):
It's just to me, it's like, why do you think
this website exists? Because the average Joe can't pay four
hundred dollars for the freaking Sunday takes.

Speaker 7 (02:03:39):
The premium product, right, That's what the commissioner told us.

Speaker 6 (02:03:43):
Look, you're pricing out a lot of Joe fan by doing.

Speaker 1 (02:03:46):
It so well, most of them, so most of them are.

Speaker 22 (02:03:49):
I'll live in a different city from the team that
I that I love. I'm gonna go to this website
to streaming, So that that was one that they busted that,
So I don't know how you're gonna get your illegal
stream of games now. But two yeah, them saying ESPN
saying red Zone will now have commercial breaks defeats the
whole freaking purpose of what NFL Red Zone is supposed
to be. But put your damn banners on the bottom

(02:04:10):
of the screen, put graphics on, you know, wherever you want.

Speaker 1 (02:04:13):
Let him roll on the lower third immercial breaks, Like
that's why we watched the red Zone, not to have
to go to a commercials stupid, But you know what
this is in an ESPN decision, you know who it is,
it's an NFL decision because the NFL still owns regardless
of running on ESPN, NFL still is running the ship.
They're running red Zone. So those advertised and we never
thought we'd see it come, just like you never thought

(02:04:34):
you're going to see a streaming super Bowl that's coming
too and somewhere global at some point in time, you're
going to get a super Bowl on somebody else that's
so used to are Oh yeah, I don't know if
we're in lifetime. But with that gory that was and
the other news. I don't want to get off the
beating pad. But the NBA and Charles Barkley listened to
him about all those streaming things. How do you keep
up with the NBA schedule? Charles said, they care about

(02:04:55):
the fan. They don't care about the fan. They care
and he made a good point that that'll be for
NBA season. But used to to think about streaming is
taken over because once again, always follow the dollar. And
that's happened when you.

Speaker 6 (02:05:05):
Get tired of paying you one hundred and fifty dollars
cable bill.

Speaker 22 (02:05:08):
But now you got Peacock at ten dollars a month,
Netflix at twelve dollars.

Speaker 6 (02:05:12):
I mean it all adds up to what it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:14):
Ten dollars anyhow, Yeah, if you want to watch sports,
but I the only.

Speaker 22 (02:05:18):
Thing I'd say with the red zone is do what
And we're seeing this more and more now we see
We've seen it with baseball, We've seen it with I
saw with college football this past weekend. The split screen.
Go put your ad on the left side of the
screen and keep the game on the right side. That's
totally fine.

Speaker 1 (02:05:33):
That with golf on majors, a commercial free or all
they'll do is they're showing the golf swing on the
left side. In a two box, you get the golf
in the left side and you're running your progressive ad
on the right.

Speaker 6 (02:05:45):
Because when you.

Speaker 22 (02:05:45):
Watch an actual NFL, when you're watching one NFL game,
they go to break their stoppage on the field, You're
not missing anything on red zone. There's something always happening.
So because not everything commercial leave the action is stupid
and I hate that. And golf when they come back
form break, hey during the break this, no keep put
the action right. If Tiger is putting on eighteen, don't go.

Speaker 1 (02:06:06):
To commercial break right, That's exactly right. And I know
it's going to drive people crazy. You knew it was
coming because eventually there's too much money on it. Scott
Hansen's probably like, damn good, I can go to the restroom, right,
this is cool. I get that. So yeah, it's just
it's changing, man, And you know what, it'll look different
three years from now than it does this year. It

(02:06:27):
just will. And by the way, it's one of the
great inventions, I mean, one of the great inventions of
all time, right is the red Zone channel.

Speaker 7 (02:06:33):
And we were talking about off the air about some
of the college football games this weekend, and you were mentioning,
you know, double digit lines in the NFL. You've got
linden Wood taking on app State this weekend. But then
you also look at the lines for a lot of
these games. Forty two and a half, thirty six and
a half, eight and a half.

Speaker 6 (02:06:52):
It's a rough week.

Speaker 22 (02:06:52):
I mean it's there's only like three or four really
good games. By the way, the ratings last week through
the Roof for ESPN College Game Day four million viewers,
most watched episode ever, which makes sense.

Speaker 6 (02:07:05):
It was the lead Corso farewell shot.

Speaker 1 (02:07:07):
And it ended the last fifteen minutes with five point
one million.

Speaker 22 (02:07:09):
But Notre Dame Miami ten point eight million, Alabama FSU
ten point seven million, LSU Clemson ten point four million.

Speaker 6 (02:07:16):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:07:16):
It's Ohio State, the Ohio on the other side of
the Ohio State Texas game, which that was Fox, right, Yeah,
Ohio State Texas game fifteen plus million, the highest rated
first the opening football game in college football history.

Speaker 7 (02:07:30):
Mean that people who are not massive college football fans
like US three are that they'll actually tune in to
watch marquee matchups.

Speaker 1 (02:07:38):
Weird, what a novel concept. Yeah, strange.

Speaker 22 (02:07:40):
Now, Wow, I'm just telling you right now, the games
this weekend will not be It's almost like they're taking
the backseat to Oh it's NFL weekend.

Speaker 8 (02:07:48):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:07:49):
They always do that too. They'll give you the first
one it's like, oh my god, what a light's out
opening weekend. Then they soften you on Saturday because well,
this is NFL. We're going to give them their We're
going to give them their flowers, and then they'll be
back at it in week three.

Speaker 22 (02:07:59):
Given a state, you know, they're the number two team
in the country. They were really impressed last week and
they're thrashing of Nevada. Uh, they're gonna get a tougher
test this week as Florida International comes to Penn State.

Speaker 1 (02:08:09):
Dude, throw out the records for throughout.

Speaker 22 (02:08:14):
If I had an AP vote, I wouldn't even know
what the hell the rank them, because I dude, play somebody.

Speaker 6 (02:08:18):
I don't know if you're any good.

Speaker 7 (02:08:19):
Bama's thirty six and a half against U El Monroe.
I wouldn't favor take the Warhawks. I guess say, I
think I think they might have it.

Speaker 1 (02:08:27):
Well, you know what you want to talk. You think
that they're at rock bottom. Now, don't let this one
be within ten points, or it'll be even in a win,
it'll be deeper rock bottom. I got news from Saban's
first year.

Speaker 22 (02:08:37):
They lost to Louisiana Monroe Oh seven Alabama twenty one
to fourteen.

Speaker 1 (02:08:41):
Michigan knows it all too well against App State, didn't
didn't Apple Aachia State or somebody who got the Texas
A and M a couple of years ago a state
there was, app State, didn't Georgia.

Speaker 7 (02:08:50):
Georgia State got Tennessee that one year.

Speaker 1 (02:08:52):
And remember, hey, and remember App State got Michigan. Now
that's kind of that. So the go ahead and sleep
on it, especially when your team's not that good.

Speaker 7 (02:09:00):
Well, and then that's the thing, I mean, the fact
that it's almost fifteen years later and we still remember
that almost twenty in that case, and that's that's one
of those too, like where if you go to those
campuses and you go into their athletic facility, it's still there,
it's all over the place, still still t shirts of Hey,
remember that time we went to college station.

Speaker 1 (02:09:16):
Beat those guys, I'm telling you right now, they're not laughing.
And there and there their practices and meeting rooms aren't
real fun this week in Alabama, I assure you. And
if Saban was there'd be even worse.

Speaker 22 (02:09:26):
All are the reports that were getting door dash sent
to their room, like the night before the game, and
like one of the guy's girlfriends coming to the hotel,
like you know who wouldn't allow this the previous coach.

Speaker 1 (02:09:36):
Well, I watched Denny Green on a Monday night football
Sunday Night guys show about four or five minutes late
for curfew. They cut him and he was he cut him,
brought it back the next year. Cut him. It's uh,
this means this is not a four minutes it did?
Did curfew? Didn't say eleven oh five, it's at eleven
on the road by v in by eleven.

Speaker 22 (02:09:57):
I still like the old Greg Cook stories of they
were out drinking and then they show up to the
game hungover.

Speaker 6 (02:10:04):
A different top.

Speaker 1 (02:10:05):
Like I told you we had to Chuck Knox my
rookie year. We had beer and Burger feed was our
our pregame, the nine o'clock meal snack before you'd go
to bed. It was a tub of Heineken and it
might have been a local beer tubs and you Chuck
just said if be a pro. So you know some
guys here, Dave, David Craig att time. Dave doesn't drink

(02:10:27):
anymore like the six pack of beer night before game,
showed up, played his ass off the next day. As
long as you could retrieve the ball. Nobody had a
problem back there. It was just old school and on
the plane ride home if you won, there was no
beer left in that city by the time home and
they loaded you up. But yeah, you got liquid IV.
Oh yeah, yeah, night night before though, a whole different

(02:10:49):
ball game from the eighties and nineties to now.

Speaker 7 (02:10:51):
There is no question, say different different breed, different cut
from the cloth, that's for sure. You got time. All right,
there we go. We'll talk some astros. Chris, Gordy, Kurtis,
see a carbox brewing. It's a Thursday here, Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 1 (02:11:03):
I am a dip guy, you say, sham will kind
of well, I can tell you what kind of dip.
Daisy French onion dip and the daisy ranch dip. Now
I am. I'm like the finger food appetizer chips, you know,
throw a fredo in their chips to get the dips.
Sometimes to the point on college game day or during
Saturdays and Sundays, get up put the spread. It always

(02:11:25):
has the daisy French onion dip or the daisy ranch tip.

Speaker 8 (02:11:28):
Was in the.

Speaker 1 (02:11:28):
Local grocery store over the weekend picking it up, and
why because well, the other food's fine and dandy later
in the day, but in order to get you through.
And don't you do it on holidays too. You do
it on Labor Day, you do it on holidays. You
do it sports and it's sports season. This is this
is daisy French onion dip and ranch dip time of year,
right and now it comes out with this delicious French

(02:11:49):
onion dip. As an obsession of mine. They are delicious
as homemade dip. You can add whatever you want to
be you won't need to because they got the real
IRBs and spices and the other ingredients you'd find in
your own kitchen. But they're doing it for Pop on
into your local grocery store and find out what I
already know and have known. And I'm grateful to be
part of this where I get to well spend my

(02:12:09):
college football Saturday and Sundays or any other day of
the week doing what really is the strength of a meal.
My chips and dips, and it's Daisy French onion dip
and Daisy ranch dip. I can go to my refrigerator
and take a picture. You'll see it. Now, visualize it,
and then go out and do it. Get to your
local grocery store and look for Daisy French onion dip

(02:12:30):
at a grocery store near you. Barrels his way to
the basket.

Speaker 8 (02:12:36):
I'm the window in.

Speaker 6 (02:12:37):
Hey is Jay Back to the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 7 (02:12:43):
On Sports Talk seven ninety flagship station of.

Speaker 1 (02:12:47):
Your Rockets plus.

Speaker 7 (02:12:48):
You hold up your hand and say, hey, guys, you
know I got to be the brass here. You know,
I gotta gotta go do this, got to go there
some weeks.

Speaker 1 (02:12:54):
Then you know he's got to play big shot, you know,
into his office. You know I don't want that. I don't. Yeah,
clo close and.

Speaker 7 (02:13:06):
Bring your playbook man in this. In this case it
would be the laptop.

Speaker 1 (02:13:11):
Yeah. But uh, anyway, that more show. They'll they'll always
catch you after the show. Hey, guys, show here. They'll
do at like five fifty seven. Hey, can you see
me after the show? Yeah, and then but but won't.
But again, it gives you the look like this, this
isn't a good one. Yeah, you got a focus for four.

Speaker 6 (02:13:30):
It doesn't give you enough time to run.

Speaker 1 (02:13:32):
Right, and they do it on Then you go in
there and say, ah, I was just kidding, man, everything's good.
We're just having a breakfast. You want to let you know, hey,
your endorsement came through and the ratings through the rush
I had.

Speaker 7 (02:13:42):
I had a boss who would play mind games like
that on purpose?

Speaker 1 (02:13:45):
Yes do I know him? I think you do? Oh
I do, Yeah, I think you do.

Speaker 7 (02:13:50):
But like would play mind games like that, and you're
just like, dude, this isn't cool, Like legit had anxiety,
like thinking like what am I going to do?

Speaker 1 (02:13:58):
All of that? Like we end up being a good meeting,
but for four hours you have to think, oh this
is good.

Speaker 7 (02:14:02):
It's just if it's one of those that it's totally
fine just to be like, you know, hey, you got
a second you know, so.

Speaker 1 (02:14:09):
There's we have a commercial break in five minutes.

Speaker 7 (02:14:10):
You can tell me then, right, that's the best are
Like you know when when the brass steps in here
and you know, says something really quick, then it's like.

Speaker 1 (02:14:17):
Okay, all right, we're good, We're good. Thought scared now, Dan,
I'm good. I'm good. You're a man. You're forty.

Speaker 7 (02:14:24):
Well he's fifty eight now, but I am forty.

Speaker 1 (02:14:27):
Right, yeah, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 22 (02:14:28):
Something they don't do anymore. But they would do back,
and they would let you go, and then you would
do your last show. The worst idea, you don't put
somebody on the air after they've already been like.

Speaker 7 (02:14:37):
Ghos's gonna say, I mean, then you can get rules
to follow. Right now, what do I care? You guys
are gonna be the ones wearing the fine Gordy.

Speaker 1 (02:14:46):
What did you think about it last night? Didn't let
the night before fester with the fro all the chatter
you know that goes on. Would have been easy to
be distracted, and it looked like they might be for
a minute. But the barrage from the fifth inning almost
pretty impressive.

Speaker 6 (02:15:00):
I mean it was getting ugly there early.

Speaker 22 (02:15:02):
I mean they you know, you're in a three nothing
hole and Jason Alexander's not looking his best and you're like, oh,
this ain't good, you know, And I had a buddy
texted me. You know, they add to sack fly in
the in the sixth and it's like it's four to one.

Speaker 6 (02:15:16):
And he's like, you know, my buddy's texted me like, dude.

Speaker 22 (02:15:19):
This team, you know what, why don't he just lay down,
let's Seattle just pass him, just just let's just be
done with this. But yes, they they Peyna hits the
home run and then josel two that you know, Jordan
gets on with the double L twove grounds out and
it's for you know, you're four to three. You're like, okay,
within one run and then the seventh thron of course
or seventh Naing.

Speaker 6 (02:15:38):
Alvarez ties it.

Speaker 22 (02:15:40):
And once they tied it, I was kind of like,
you know what, I think they're I think they're gonna
come back and pull this out. Yes, very scary with
Bellinger there in the night to make this one run game,
but you needed that, I mean, the absolutely needed this,
and you know, an opportunity tonight to with Christian Javier
on the mound who I'm just looking at looking it up, guys,
the last two times Christian Hovier has faced the New

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York Yankees. Of course, you got to go back to
twenty twenty U what is it, twenty twenty three and
twenty twenty two. I believe, I mean, he's he's zero
runs given.

Speaker 6 (02:16:14):
Up to the Yankees in his last couple of starts.

Speaker 22 (02:16:17):
He'd go back to July of twenty twenty two, he
went five innings of one run ball against the Yankees,
and you go back to June of twenty twenty five
or twenty twenty two, seven innings shut out that was
part of the no hitter.

Speaker 7 (02:16:29):
Plus you'd love to be able to do it tonight
against Carlos Redon after he ran his math of few years.

Speaker 22 (02:16:33):
Sure, but I mean Javier's numbers, I gotta go look
just since he came up. I mean, his numbers against
the Yankees are probably better than any other ball club
out there.

Speaker 7 (02:16:41):
Well, and you're gonna need him too because Spencer Raghetti
goes down with the elbow inflammation. But from the hitting
side last night, Jordan, I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:16:49):
I've seen enough to know Jordon needs to play every day.

Speaker 7 (02:16:51):
I was gonna say, I mean, at this point, you
heard what Dana said yesterday. I mean we're not gonna
be missing him, but I mean completely changes things now
for how we feel about about that group.

Speaker 1 (02:17:02):
There's one guy do it for you.

Speaker 22 (02:17:04):
Yeah, I mean, he's he's the straw that stirs the drink. Certainly,
you know you're right. I mean, a hot Jordan can
help jump start this thing into you know, an offensive tear.
I mean, go look at the last handful of games
where they're scoring one run, no runs, one run. You know,
this lineup is too talented to have nights where they

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get shut out and you know, one run and that's it.

Speaker 1 (02:17:28):
So once in a while is fined. Yeah, it happens,
but it's happened too often this year. Correct.

Speaker 22 (02:17:32):
Yeah, but I think you know you got an off
day on Monday, you play, You'll play Yankee and I and
then you go up to Arlington for three. By the way,
you know who crushes up there in Arlington, Well, Josel too, Thay,
So hopefully.

Speaker 6 (02:17:43):
He can make again going.

Speaker 7 (02:17:44):
I mean, my god, another double play. Last night, He's
trying to bunt with with with two outs. I'm like, well,
what are we doing here, man, Joseal'll try to surprise
you with one of those once in a while.

Speaker 1 (02:17:54):
Don't just flail away, don't.

Speaker 22 (02:17:57):
Christian Havier six career starts against the Yankees in the
ear of nine strikeouts.

Speaker 1 (02:18:03):
We'll sign up for it. Take it again. I'm okay
with it. Yeah, that'd be great. No, absolutely would.

Speaker 7 (02:18:09):
So, yeah, as you mentioned, you get the Yankee tonaight,
you get the Rangers over the weekend, and I mean, Gordy,
that's a prime chance for the Astros to be able
to space out their lead and kind of knock the
Rangers out of this thing. But it's also you know,
they've got that carbox sign up there and left field
at at Global Life Field. But who we know where
Karbak is?

Speaker 1 (02:18:26):
Gordy, real quick, before you do that, I meant to
ask you this real quick, is do you see the
Texans going into the Los Angeles and beating them? This
was since we're not gonna have you on Friday. I don't.

Speaker 6 (02:18:37):
I don't think so. I think it's gonna be tough.

Speaker 22 (02:18:39):
I mean, I think the defense, right think the Texans
defense is going to come into play. I just have
big questions about Texans offensive line protecting against that front
of the of the Rams with Fisk and I mean,
they they're just they're loaded. Even with Aaron Donald retired,
they're loaded again on that D line. So I think
maybe maybe it's a low scoring game, maybe it's something

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like twentieth team. I just think I just think he
is gonna be running for his life back there, and
I question Nick Chubb carrying the load. You know, I
think I set the line yesterday thirty five and a
half rushing yards.

Speaker 6 (02:19:11):
Would you go over under for Chubb over.

Speaker 1 (02:19:14):
I'm gonna take the over because he's gonna have to.

Speaker 22 (02:19:16):
Okay, I think they're gonna bottle him up. I think
Damian Pierce will get some touches. I think they'll try to,
you know, go running back by committee a little bit.

Speaker 6 (02:19:24):
But I don't know, man, I just.

Speaker 1 (02:19:25):
If he rushes for thirty five yards or less, Gordy,
guess what you're owing?

Speaker 6 (02:19:30):
What a loss? Yeah, I'm just I'm talking up as
a loss.

Speaker 1 (02:19:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (02:19:33):
Now on the other side, I don't think Stafford's a
world beater, but they got some weapons, Karin Williams.

Speaker 6 (02:19:38):
I mean, they got dudes over there.

Speaker 1 (02:19:40):
So they're loaded this year. If if Stafford stays healthy,
they're a legitimate threat. Hell, they had a chance to
win the whole thing at the end last year had
they been playing in a different facility, and they may
have pulled that off. And then Philly goes and wins
the whole thing.

Speaker 6 (02:19:50):
That's time. Yeah, at chance, agreed.

Speaker 7 (02:19:55):
Well, I mean we'll have that going more teams may
struggle to run the football this week. Let's just put
it that we both really solid defensive fronts.

Speaker 22 (02:20:02):
But you got that, so mention your taste buds will
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Second ship a crate out there to La for the
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Speaker 7 (02:20:40):
Okay, Gordy's not a beer snob. He just knows really
darn good beer, and I co sign on that because
Carbock Brewing does make some darn good beer. Carbock Crawford
back in there, too, So Gordy, appreciate your time. You're
you're an affable guy, You're you're magnetic brother. We were
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Speaker 7 (02:22:57):
Jared his concerns for this one. I think that for
the Texans, it's one of those that you're gonna have
a chance to win this one. Defense has got to
be able to play a factor where you get some
short fields, a turnover or two. Hell, Sean, I might
even get a little greedy here. I might even want
to scoop and score or a pick six. You make
a chance, you know, and you go in.

Speaker 1 (02:23:19):
I don't know how rusty, you know, a veteran like
Stafford would be, but remember he's not worked much. And
that's probably one of those where you're gonna get a
little injection to have yourself ready to play, I would assume,
and to hope that you're the one thing they do.
Their offensive line can keep him up right. They're really good,
but they're facing a really active defensive front. And on

(02:23:40):
the other side, like we said, the Rams are loaded
and as the Texans, you you know, mixing's not involved.
You're trying to see how this offensive line and you
know they're going to give them a bunch of looks
defensively to see how the offensive line deals with different
stunts and stuffed and they may look base and they
may end up being basic, but they're going to try
to make it look complicated. See how a rookie left
tackle with it. So that's it. The truth the matter

(02:24:02):
is the quarterback that a team that doesn't abandon the
run game and a quarterback that stays upright, and both
of them are going to have to stay up right
against two good defenses, probably has a hell of an advantage.
The key. The one thing that happens in games like
this and been involved in stuff where you're going against
a team where you're you're you're depleted in some places
or you're still questionable in some places, is to abandon

(02:24:23):
something that you know you got to have. Does that
make sense? You go three and out three and they
embarrassing in the run game for the first quarter, and
it's like you abandon it and you start to do
something different. In an opener like this, you just can't.
Now you're not going to play uphill and swim upstream
the whole time. But the premium on quarterbacks making plays
an extension of the run game and making sure you
stay involved in it, and the coordinators to not play

(02:24:47):
so conservative in the opener because defense so good that
you play where you're you know, four or five yards
and you're still punting. You've got to be aggressive on
this because it may take one aggressive play. And both
of these quarterbacks are great, not just good, great mid
range throwers of the football.

Speaker 7 (02:25:02):
I would say that probably if I'm going to put
my money on who would fit into either of those
categories in terms of the offensive game plan, that probably
Kaylee would not try to empty out the chamber right
off the gate, right right out the gate. But anyway,
I mean, you know, the Texans in their defense too,
where I mean, you've got to believe that they can

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Speaker 8 (02:27:11):
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Speaker 1 (02:27:14):
You want to put some money in your pocket. He's
sharpened in Vegas. He's two times Circa Invitational champion, beating
the best aggie cappers around the country, and a professional
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chuckwins dot com, chuckwins dot com, Chuck Welcome in man.

(02:27:36):
It's great to have you with us, Always great to
have you with us. And it's going to be a
weekly occurrence this year. Does this time of year for
you and your betting flow. I mean, I know it's
a year round thing, but football must just hit different
as well for you. And is this where you make
that big coin?

Speaker 8 (02:27:52):
My man? Yeah, thanks for having me.

Speaker 23 (02:27:55):
Yeah, football is a great time of year, you know,
as far as making the coin. You know, your basketball
is right up there too, but football, you know, you
could get down a lot more on a football game
than you could a college basketball game.

Speaker 8 (02:28:07):
But yeah, we you know this.

Speaker 23 (02:28:08):
Is we're looking forward to the football season of course,
and uh, you know every you know, things that aren't
different every year. Of course, with the college football now
it's you know, with all the transfers and the NIL program,
you know, it's it's not what it used to be.

Speaker 8 (02:28:24):
Predicting the week one and week two.

Speaker 23 (02:28:26):
There's a lot of speculation trying to see who's you know,
who's playing, how they're how they're coming together. And then
of course the NFL. Everybody loves the NFL and have
high expectations of that as well.

Speaker 1 (02:28:38):
Chuck, before we get into some of your your plays
in the direction you're going with this week that the
opener does, how much has it changed for you. And
we have a lot of great following in Houston. How
much does sports betting change for you and the preparation
that goes in with it, with all the different data
and now with social media and all the thing and
everybody's a better Well, how's it changed you and handicapping

(02:29:01):
these games and going about your business or has it?

Speaker 23 (02:29:05):
Well, first you hit the head on the social media.
The information is out there everywhere now, you know, if
you want to put the time, and you know it
used to be back in the day.

Speaker 8 (02:29:17):
I've been doing this a long time.

Speaker 23 (02:29:18):
Back in the day, you get some information, you were
able to hold on to that information and maybe do
some things with without the lines moving. You know, now
some information gets out there they say Nick Schubb is
out or Mixtion is out. You know that the words
write so much faster, so the lines move faster.

Speaker 8 (02:29:36):
You have to be quicker to get on these on
the line movement.

Speaker 23 (02:29:40):
And so that's where the social media, you know, and
and you know plays a role. You know a lot
of the reporters from the from the teams are on
the social media, so the immediately are reporting things that
happened where in the past. If you had the right
connections and the right people in place. You get that information,
but you you know it would you know you'd be
able to do some things with that information. Now you

(02:30:03):
have to be super quick with that information because everything
spreads that much faster.

Speaker 1 (02:30:08):
Chuck Ettel, you can get him at Chuck Wins. That's
chuckwins dot com. Will join us every week eight hundred
and eight oh eight thirty four eighty one. He is
a champion, obviously a two time Circuit Invitational champion and
beat the best handicappers in the world. We got him
right here to help you. So, Chuck, your approach this
week and maybe your first play where we focusing on
where are you going with the first one when you

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give an information out to our great listeners.

Speaker 8 (02:30:33):
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on.

Speaker 23 (02:30:35):
I mean, as far as week won the NFL, it's
always it's a little bit different.

Speaker 1 (02:30:40):
Craps you, right, Yeah, yeah, a.

Speaker 23 (02:30:42):
Lot of it craps you, but it is a little
you know, I always like to try to take advantage
of a week one of.

Speaker 8 (02:30:48):
Maybe the public type of opinion.

Speaker 23 (02:30:49):
You know, a lot of people I think put too
much emphasis on the preseason. You know, we know that
the preseason really is a totally different season. Vanilla defenses,
vanilla offenses looking at a lot of younger players. So
sometimes there's things you can take advantage of. Maybe teams
are overvalued, some teams are undervalued because of the perception

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that happened in the preseason. But you know, so there,
you know, and then and then you get the teams
who don't play anybody in the preseason, you know, and
there has been teams over the years when they hardly
play anybody in the preseason, they do struggle early on.
We saw the Cincinnati Bengals this year. They decided to
play everybody in the preseasons. The last three years they
haven't played anybody, and they started off one in twelve

(02:31:33):
in those in those three years. So the Rams are
a team who never plays anybody, but they were able
to get away with that. Sean McVay always has that
team ready. But so there is a lot of things.
I mean, I'll go to you know, one of the
totals that I'm looking at is right there, and you
know with your team, Houston, so I'll just touch base
on that. There has been some sharp money on the
on the under in that game, and I have a

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little piece of that I that I was looking at
as well. Obviously we know about Staff with his back
issues all off season. He's a year older. Houston very
strong defense they should put pressure on.

Speaker 8 (02:32:08):
But on the other hand, you know, we'll see how
that Houston offensive line does.

Speaker 23 (02:32:12):
They did struggle a little bit last year and didn't
give it, you know, strouded enough protection and they weren't
able to get some things done that they that they
wanted to. With that offensive line, it's almost rebuilt. I
think they had one returner right on the offensive line
this year.

Speaker 8 (02:32:25):
So see how they do that.

Speaker 23 (02:32:26):
I'm sure that's a point of emphasis for the Houston
coaching staff. But you know, the total open up forty
five and a half, it's down to forty four, and
I thought under forty five and a half was a
good play.

Speaker 1 (02:32:38):
Yeah it is, and I am with you one hundred percent.
We were actually talking about it before you came on, Chuck.
Chuck edtele born in Chicago and obviously is sharpened those
skills in one of the Champions Circuit Invitational two time
champion against the best handicappers in the world to join
us every single week, and we were discussing the under
with that and Chuck you mentioned because like Stafford hadn't
played much, starters don't play much, which kind of puts

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gambles in a in a you know, and people who
bet on games like, well, what do I look for?
So do you go back to last season or is
it offseason moves? Is it trends of the coaching staff
when you're explaining to somebody your expertise on picking the
under in this game? How much history from last year
carries over to the first game of the season without
knowing what their direction is in the regular season in

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twenty twenty five, because it's the first week of the season.

Speaker 23 (02:33:25):
That's a big chuck of the is from last year,
you know, I mean, still the nuclease of the team
is there. You do have to look at the changes
that were made, any injuries that were made. But you
do put an emphasis on what happened last year because
you're seeing a lot of the same players play. You know,
in college it's a much higher turnover, it's a different thing.
But absolutely that's a big piece of the puzzle how

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they played last year.

Speaker 8 (02:33:48):
And then you do have to weigh in all the you.

Speaker 23 (02:33:51):
Know, the the offseason transactions and you know, sometimes teams
lose coordinators, sometimes they gain ones.

Speaker 8 (02:33:57):
You always look, you know.

Speaker 23 (02:33:57):
You're always looking at that whether it's going to help them.

Speaker 1 (02:34:01):
It's Chuck wins dot com. Chuck wins dot com. Great chance.
So one of the plays you got for uced in
the opening week of the season, which is huge. And
there is some great matchups as you mentioned this one,
the Philadelphia Dallas matchup tonight, a couple other places you're
going for our listeners.

Speaker 23 (02:34:17):
Yeah, you know, I'm still looking. And now you know,
people could go to the Chuck wins dot com. You know,
Chuck wins dot com. Now I will have all the
plays there. But there's some very interesting games here that
I'm I'm you know, looking to take a piece of,
you know something. You know, we talked about the overrated teams.
You know, I'm a huge Mike Gravel fan. I think
he's a great, great coach. He's going to do a
good job there. But I think that that's an overrated

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team right now. I mean New England last year won
four games, really three if you count the fourth win
was the last last week against Buffalo when they when
they said everybody now, all of a sudden there's such
high expectations. You know, the verdicts still out made looked
good last year, but keep in mind a lot of
those passing yards came when they were down big scores,
and you know how that is a lot of prevent

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de that's you know, he's throwing the ball again. So
I think they're getting maybe a little bit too much attention.
So I'm going to you know, sometimes I'll be looking
to go against New England early on until they you know,
until they prove me wrong. That's a situation there that
they still you know, they still need players and it's
going to take them a while to get to.

Speaker 1 (02:35:18):
Do you when and pay for an amateur gambler who's
trying to learn how to bet, and with your extend,
this is great for us to tee it up and
get specific as we go on through the rest of
the year, Chuck, and I'm grateful we got this introduction
to you for our fans, especially when it comes from
a champion who gets this. When do when does an
amateur better know during the week, when should they really

(02:35:40):
pay attention to the line knowing, okay, the experts and
the sharps are hitting this is it? Thursday on a
Sunday game is the front When will that line move
for somebody who's just breaking into betting that you say, okay,
this is where the non public money's going. It's going
to the sharps. When when during the week would we
pay attention to that?

Speaker 8 (02:35:59):
If you if you had to pay attention to be
late in the week. For a few few reasons.

Speaker 23 (02:36:04):
First of all, a lot of places who take the
bets you could bet a lot more on Friday.

Speaker 10 (02:36:09):
Saturday, Sunday.

Speaker 23 (02:36:10):
Yeah, week during the week they're not taking quick as much.
So you know, so Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I mean the
most important move at the NFL game would be day
of the game, I would say, because a lot of
sharp money, you know, coming in on Sunday and on Saturday.
So you know, in the college football, you know Friday,
you know Friday, the a lot of sharp money coming

(02:36:30):
in on Friday.

Speaker 8 (02:36:32):
You know, I would look that way, all.

Speaker 1 (02:36:33):
Right, as we what will they find as we close
up this week and we'll be back at it at
nine thirty next week, we'll get it all squared away.
When they go to Chuck wins dot com. What are
they going to find there so they can prepare for Chuck.

Speaker 23 (02:36:46):
Yeah, you know, we're going to be giving out, you know,
some selections, and you'll put a lot of hard work
and hopefully we'll make some money together. That's kind of
the goal for us and hopefully for the customers as well.

Speaker 1 (02:36:57):
Hey, Chuck, next week, maybe I'll come with a games
and maybe we'll instill a contest for our listeners as well,
and see how we do against you, which probably not
very good for me, and I love the bet, but
I might as well take my chances in my ass
whooping while we can, and I'll prepare for it next week.
How's that sound, my man?

Speaker 8 (02:37:13):
Sounds great? Look forward to I.

Speaker 1 (02:37:14):
Can't wait again. The numbers eight hundred eight oh eight
three four eight one. That's eight hundred eight oh eight
three four eight one. Just an introduction in an opening
season to a guy who gets it, Chuck Edel, and
you can get him. He's a champion, he's a two
times Circuit Invitational champion, and he is as good as
handicapper as there is in the country. Chuck wins dot com,
Chuck Wins dot com can't wait to have you on
all season long, Chuck, and we look forward to it

(02:37:36):
next week at nine thirty sounds good. Thanks all right,
but appreciate it. And that's Chuck Edel and uh, it's
just kind of an introduction, I know. But people that
want to get into it, it's nice to hear. Okay,
when doy, why is the line moving? Some don't understand
it and some don't get it. Go to Chuck Wins
dot com. That's the guy who does get it.

Speaker 7 (02:37:51):
Well, they're squares and their sharps and he's definitely yeah,
not a square.

Speaker 1 (02:37:55):
And I got news for you that early in the week,
when the public money's on it, you probably want to
be a little patient son as you want to jump
in and hold hope that line holds.

Speaker 7 (02:38:03):
Oh man, I'm getting a great line here. Okay. Yeah,
that's that's where you are. That's why your house looks
the way it does and that building out there looks
the way it does. Just think about it that way.
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