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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury Salisbury, Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury to usc troupe's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury, Dan Matthews,
this is the Sewan Salisbury show.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Tonight, start up a three game series in Colorado. Bad
news on Jeremy Pania. He's going to the IL with
a fractured rib. Report says that Shay Whitcomb going to
be recalled and the Rockets wasting no time at the
open a free agency four year deal for forward Dory
and Finney Smith. Also a three year deal for center

(00:44):
Clint Capella to come back and Sean as I mentioned
there with one of the headlines in the start of
the show today, Jeremy Pania the newest one to go
on the IL. Pretty much it was as soon as
our show ended yesterday we get the release from the
astros that, yeah, hey, by the way, Peenia, I can

(01:05):
miss a little bit of time. And we did a
little extra imaging and we found out there's another fracture.
Is fracture becoming the new discomfort for this team, like
where all of a sudden, you know it's it's found
small fracture too. If we're being if we're being even
more specific.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
It appears that way. Good morning Justice, Mike.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah, I mean that's become well, that's become the new
discomfort is the fracture that was horrible news yesterday. I know,
in the light of what's going on in the world,
I get I'm talking about sports news for local Houston.
People may not agree with this, And I know who
the heartbeat of this organization is for years over the overall,

(01:50):
the heartbeat of this team this year is Jeremy Paanya.
It's not Hosel tu Veg as much as he's always
the guy that he's almost you know, when we're having
conversations about, Okay, who's the best of all time? Jordan
kind of sits alone for some and people that don't
have him first then we need to get their head checked.
But anyway, Jordan, and then we start voting for everybody else,
like Okay, where's this guy fit in?

Speaker 4 (02:11):
And lists?

Speaker 5 (02:12):
We always have lists, and I'll two, Vay's the goat
here in my opinion. That's no disrespective baggl would be
here or Nolan Ryaner, but just for all the things
that we've talked about, beloved and he's beloved the heartbeat
of this team this year is Jeremy Payam It's zero,
there is zero.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
It's not he may not be the.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
Best player, although he may very well be, but I
know pitching well, the bullpens, the heartbeat, no, the heartbeat
of every day getting up, going to work every day,
and the energy level and a new level of leadership
and performance.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Jeremy Payne is it.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
When it's a fracture depending on his threshold of pain,
anybody and I've had him rib issues when you get
taken a hit, and Ron Rivera's responsible for that is
it'll come down to like what do you do with
a broken Now, maybe I'm wrong. If it was it
was car bledger stuff around it required surgery that I
don't think that's the case.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Are they just gonna it's just gonna let it heal right?

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Yeah, it seems like it's just that I don't think
it requires certain there's certainly when I broke a toe
a couple months ago, you could it's still sowled up.
What are you gonna do about it? Cast it's nothing
you can do? Or when you break a fingers like
tape them together. When I when when I my ribs
got I mean just demolished in college, you take your

(03:29):
you know, whatever pain man or whatever you know medicine
they require for you, and when that runs out, it's
just your threshold of pain. That's that's basically core stuff too.
I mean where you know, the torque and all those things.
And I don't know the vibration of about I don't
know how severe it is for a baseball player what
have you. But from my advantage point, I'm not a doctor.
I'm just telling from people I've been around and having

(03:50):
had a major rib beat down. Well, mine got hitting
like in November. I rolled over in February and I
was still hurting and season was over, so I didn't
miss a game, but you got to be padded up
and the rest of it was miserable. So I don't know,
I mean, how where his pain level is, but it's

(04:12):
obviously not. He's not in a comfort zoner. He'd still
be playing. I would air on the side of I
don't know. Have they said they given it what they're
day to day after a certain time on the aisle.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
I'm just telling you right.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
Now, there's no way you see him before the All
Star break unless his pain thresholders and whatever they're doing,
if it's a normal Oh my gosh, ribbon and he's
on IL. It's going to take a minute, man.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Well, I mean it's just from the sheer number of days.
I don't think he would be able to come back
before the All Star break.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
It was fifteen day. I don't know it was fifteen day.
Do they still have twenty one day ils in baseball?
I think it was just ten ten days and then
they can redo it if they need to, right yeah,
or I mean I just I think you get like
a little bit of a gir period, which whatever when
I say redo it, I mean another ten days and
they have well, like with your don it started out
a ten days, and so in really a ten days

(05:08):
basically your appetizer for what may be longer. Well, whatever
the rules are of well you get off and we
put you back on and you got to stay on
this long and whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Oh to your point.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yesterday, as soon as I brought it up to someone,
when I went and got a work out in, somebody
else that works out with us, just unprovoked goes, yeah,
that means he'll be out two months.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Right. Oh.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
I was like my initial you're catching on here, my
initial thought and not because of how they approach or anything.
Just when I think of that, a little fracture in
a rip right at his high leverage important position with
all the quick twitch stuff he's got to do. And
quite frankly, the worst part is normally in those is

(05:50):
that torque through the hitting zone of being able to
do that right and power. But then again, I don't
it's so hard because you if you had one, we
had the same injury. It may feel different because of
either our movements, our position, or however we do it.
But certain ones are gonna affect everybody when it comes
to the plate because of the stuff you've got to
do to get through the hitting zone and the reverberation

(06:11):
of a bat who knows right, I don't know how
severe his is in his mind he's on the IL.
I can't fathom. I put it this way, if it's
if it is a severe when I say severe, when
they say fracture, I guess do we consider that severe?

Speaker 4 (06:29):
I'm assuming we do.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
If the guy's on an IL, but he ain't playing
in ten days, and you and I both know that,
And so all star break comes. What are we talking
first of August, first week of all If everything goes.
This is a depending on the length of it, this
is a massive injury.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
It just is.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
Now we can sit here and say, but pitching, Yeah,
now what you've done is now you've put and you know, Whitcombs,
that's all fine in they're not paying you this year.
And it's a bummer for him because he's going to
miss what would have been a fun All Star game,
because he will make the All Star team. And I
know it's it's about the season, but still you want
to make that team.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
You want to feel it would be his first right.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
I just to me, this is this is I hope
we're not blow it's in the field will be fine,
and maybe.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
We will maybe they'll do what they always do.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Oh another star got hurt or sign somewhere with free agency,
or we traded him and a guy coming in from him.
All of a sudden we find out that this guy's
That could happen, I guess. But the way that Payne
is playing, all those everything he's doing is going to
be awfully difficult to replace while he's out. Let's just
hope this isn't one that a month later, it's not

(07:40):
healing the way it needs to and we're talking middle
of August. It's like, oh my gosh, because you've just
added a major burden to the pitching staff if you're
going by the first eighty plus games of offensive inconsistency
yet explosive at times, but the inconsistency that I know
that day liked get rid of. You lost a leadoff

(08:02):
energy guy who plays gold gloves shortstop and is hitting
over three, is hitting three twenty five or whatever it is.
Right now, he's been your best player, period every day,
but period and quite frankly, Jay, even if you want
to say Jake has to the distance between he and Myers,
even though Myers is having a career year, everything about it,

(08:23):
it's a different.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
It's different.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
This has been by far your best player, and second
would probably be Myers or paradis right. But when you
get right down to it, if I say who's been
the best player on the Astros this year, you not
not named the pitcher. You don't even think twice, right,
So this is and I don't know, maybe I know that,
wait and then got to find out and they reimage
and the rest I get all that. I just don't

(08:45):
in that area with the way that you've got to
swing the bat and the way he's got to play defense.
But at all, you know, if they're not going to
do anything to it and it's just rest, then it
comes down to how are you, once again, how are
you feeling? How's your threshold paying? Can you get through
it without can you can you play hurt without re
injuring it? Whatever that, whatever the doctors say about that

(09:07):
when they read the pictures and the images. So when
I saw that, you say, did I was mortified. I say,
you've got to be kidding me. This will be if
they go on and win the division. I'm just telling you,
and they go and make headway in the playoffs and
find their way in the ALCS, it will be, since
I've been here, the most impressive team and coaching job

(09:29):
that this team's ever this team's had in the last decade.
For me, I don't twenty seventeen all the good teams
in town. That's what we said. There's been some teams
that are supremely talented here. Most of them have been
pretty damn talented. And I don't say it's the least talent.
I think there's a lot of talent, but it's it's
kind of different talent because we're so used to that.
The same guy's been doing it, you know, seven eight guys,

(09:49):
the same cats in the field doing it all the time.
This is if they can continue this run now without
that guy playing, and a pitching continues to elevate, there
is no better job done in baseball.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
And they're sure as hell.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
Since I've been here, and there's been some great jobs
done by Hinch and obviously by Dusty and by assistants
and Brent Strom on the pitching staff, and this pitching
coaching staff with the pitching staff and Joe Spot when
he was a bench coach. You can put all those
in there. There's there's no way there'd be a more
impressive job than this. If they're able to push this
and do their thing and be in position to get
in a World Series. And I know that's but dude,

(10:23):
we're gonna blink and it's going to be one hundred
and forty games in football starts in a month.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
M hm. So I mean it comes fast.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
So we said, he say, oh, you know we're far
away from No, No, we're actually not. This is now
When you say stretch run, what's the stretch run in
baseball is it twenty games, forty games, sixty games. For me,
when you when you hit the middle of August and
it said football and that new energy and sports starts
and you start to head towards that Labor Day, it's that.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Stretch run, buddy, That's damn right it is.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
And so whether it's thirty games for some twenty five
games you'd like to be in position which you don't
want to do is tax a bullpen because you lost
another play and they got to pitch more. And all
of a sudden, you get to September and the Steve
Sparks mentioned, you start to run out of gas and
you're like, uh oh, let's not be on fumes heading
into the postseason. There's too many good pitchers on other
teams as well. Well we saw last year.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, And I mean this is something too with him
that has not been a case for him during his career.
I mean, he joined the Astros in twenty two and
I can't think of any il stints for him. I mean,
we've seen him with Carlos Korea. I mean that was
kind of a little bit of if there were any
detractors for bringing him back, that was one of them.
Is that they said this guy will miss a handful

(11:34):
of games a year because there's gonna be something. There's
gonna be a lower back, there's gonna be something else.
That has not been the case with Jeremy Pinya. He's
been lineup very much.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
I my mistake. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
He's probably since his rookie yar, he's probably been on
at a time or two maybe, but I don't remember
it being oh my gosh, pages out two and a
half months, right it. Maybe you know, he may have
missed a start or a couple of games because an ankle.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
I don't even remember.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
In order the hell, you know, trying to figure out
who's been on the trying to figure that out, you'd
be safeer saying yeah, they've all missed a stint on
the IL, as opposed to has somebody missed a stint,
because over the last few years, it's like, how how
many of these are you going through? Whether losing a
guy or an injury to a guy. But you're talking now,
look at this team al Twov's playing a different position
a lot of times, you are. You have a new

(12:20):
first baseman who's struggling, a third baseman who's playing well.
But no Bregman, no Tucker, no Paynia, no Alvarez. Fifty
eight and forty am I writer, I mean if it
was not fifty eight and forty hifteen fifty thirty four, Yes,
fifty and thirty what was I thinking? Fifty and thirty four?
We talked about the record yesterday, sixteen games over five hundred.

(12:44):
Now we'll go find out that continues without paying you.
But fifty and thirty four without those guys we've talked
about an amazing job. But this isn't the news you
wanted to hear heading into July. I'm just telling you
it's not, and it'll be another level of wow. If
all of a sudden, this team final some way to
play that kind of baseball that allows them to continue

(13:06):
this incredible June they had and roll it into July
and win July. I know that's the way you gotta
look at. You gotta win July. And without Payina, it
goes the Walkers and these are gonna have to step
their game up. They just they just they have to
understand you're gonna bear that burden.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
You just have to, and you.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Have to when the pressures on, sometimes people go away
and can't handle it. This is the Astros team's been
able to handle the past, and one of the new
dudes and the rest of them, they're just gonna have
to elevate. And that's how Tuv and all of them.
You lost your best player right now. This year, he's
been your best player. So it just blows that news
sucked yesterday. It really did. And I'm not sure we

(13:46):
know and I don't think we do is say how
damaging it can be. But the thing that gives you
great hope is that this team's done this. I don't
know anybody that's done it better of losing one and
replacing them with another. It's not considered a star until
you watch them for a while and say, oh, guy's
got a great future. So it's their resilience has been

(14:09):
nothing short of fantastic, and it's gonna have to elevate again.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yep, something we can talk about too, if you want
to jump in on the phone line seven one three
two one two five seven ninety. Once again, that's seven
one three two one two five seven ninety. A couple
of names you mentioned right there. We'll talk about them
here as we're just getting started on the Sewn Salisbury
Show on a Tuesday Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
Ninety Buckle Up The Shawn Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
It's gonna be a hell.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Like we have it at night where we're singing karaoke
follow aside and say, I go up there and we're
we're doing a collab and he says, well, I say
to him, well, I don't want to put the music
on your Clint cappella, so I'm assuming you can sing.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
I was gonna say, let's let's hear those notes.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
Yeah, a cappella, So forget the music. That's like putting
a boatload of water in a good glass of bourbon.
I'll water it down, splash it. So let's go. I
don't put any of it in there, strow but a cappella.
Do you think you haven't answered my question?

Speaker 4 (15:13):
I I'm probably, I would guess not. You think not.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
I'm gonna say he's like when he that he likes
to I'm gonna say, when he's driving down, I'm gonna say,
Clint capella lex to.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Sing like just with no music going, just in his car,
He's like.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
All of a sudden, the song will come on, but
he has to turn it down for a second, he's like,
let me see, let me like in the shower. You know,
sometimes you're in the shower you don't have music, Blair,
and sometimes sometimes you do. Yeah, and all of a
sudden you'll be thinking of a cut and you're like,
let me get into this, and they'll sa you're jamming
because whatever, the acoustics off, the shower walls always seem
to make you sound better.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
I forget what John Taffer said the reason for that was,
but so Taffor had a reason for that, well, because
they they they rescued a karaoke bar and the acoustics
were so bad. So then you know the way they
reworked it is they said that it was going to
be almost like a shower effect for the person singing. Okay,
therese it was going to make them sound like they

(16:03):
sound better, which is important.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
So I'm assuming I'm going to go the other I'm
going to say, yes, I'm going to say that I'm
not the first dad joke he's ever heard like that,
and that he's like, okay, then next time. So if
you ask them right the next time, somebody says, so
he's prepared, propella guy. Yeah, remember how many times you
think I've gone through the Salisbury steak stuff, and of
course a million like somebody invented it new right, Hey

(16:27):
you got any steak with that?

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Boy us? Do you own it?

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (16:31):
That steak sucks? Yes, it absolutely does unless you do
it right with the problem.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Right.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
If it's that well, you'll know people's The truth is,
if I could get it the frozen if I could
get in the frozen food section with a Swanson's dinner
that may not be your favorite, yes, if it's made
properly at home and done right, you can do it.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
The namesake.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Yes, I don't have a I don't have stock or
equity and in Swanson's dinners, but I've all you know,
You're like, yeah, thanks, man, I've never heard that one,
so I would imagine click Copela has heard the capella before.
But he's not going to have to do this alone.
See where I'm going with all this cheesy dad joke stuff.
As he comes to a team that they're pushing towards

(17:11):
favorites in the Western Conference and not named Oklahoma City
right now, seven game series. They can they can play
with Denver, they can play with the Lakers. I mean
this team. I'm just telling you this is another depth.
Now the question adds with three centers, what's next?

Speaker 4 (17:27):
That's what I want to know.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
There's still a moving day involved in this, so we'll see.
But yeah, I'm going I'm going all in on the
Clint Cappella a cappella dad joke that he's probably heard
four million times.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Well the next time or less.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
People just aren't as smart as me in the thinking,
you know, as quick witted as I am. Next time,
the next course, next time the Pentatonics are here, if
they they say lazy and gentleman, Houston would love to
bring up a special friend and a special guest. Peditals,
big Christmas and you go there, they throw a cappella

(18:00):
on it, and Clinton oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Harry Conic Jr.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
Conic Junior is like Frank Sinatra thirty years after. Oh yeah,
that's Conic Juniors. That's who he is. He's the big,
he's the cruider. And to your Salisbury steak thing is
for me. It's it's fellow basic white guys. And I
say fellow because I am one of them. Is you
truly are a basic white guy?

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I don't hide it. And I can't either. It's just
it is who I am. It's it's built in with
the fabric. It's not a negative thing. Basic white guy. Yeah,
it's just cool.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
That's who I am.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
Yet that's who that's the cause song too, look that
song up, that's who I am.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yeah, Jessica something, Oh yeah, granddaughter all right, yeah, I
remember today. He's an educational day.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
I think it was like a retreat or something, and
they played that and I was just like, oh my god,
like to.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Can you get the snack time already? Please? What is it?
I'm rose? Yeah, my father? Yeah that cut?

Speaker 5 (19:02):
You don't So what were you going? What was your
your payoff on the Basic White guys? Dan Matthews So whenever,
you know, introduced myself someone Dave Matthews.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Kid or oh you know, I thought your name was Dave.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
That's a new one. Yeah that's great. Hey what's your name? Oh,
Chad who knew? Yeah exactly?

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Shock. Yeah, yeah, it's shocking. You don't look like a Chad.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
I like to call him Chadwick though, Yeah, yeah, I
don't know a Chad that I don't call Chadwick. I
don't think I've ever called any any Chad at Chadwick.
It's just chad Well. I think that that's just disrespectful.
It's also too for basic white guys. If you're called
a chad it's not a good thing to be. Okay,
aren't most Chadwick's basic white guys. But there's a great actor.

(19:47):
Isn't that great actor? Isn't he Chadwick?

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Buz?

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, God rest his soul?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Right?

Speaker 5 (19:52):
He was what was his Yeah, and some of his
breakout well he was we lost too soon. He was
Jackie Robins. There you go, that's exactly. That was his
first huge role there. He might be the only Chadwick.
It's not a white guy from Newport, Rhode Island. They
went to an Ivy League school. I don't think there's
many Chadwick I don't think there's many Chadwick's in Paramus,

(20:15):
New Jersey, which the last day. But think about it.
Don't you picture Mortimer? You know on Mortimer? Yeah, is Chadwick.
Doesn't he work on Doesn't he work in the financial
district in New York? Didn't he go to Harvard undergrad
or Yale? Probably has an ascot or too well? Oh yeah,

(20:38):
and he where's topsiders, he's got his family has they
have him, they have they they they vacation or what
they holiday at the Cape. Not a vacation, the holiday
on the Cape. I mean we go there for the summers.
Oh yeah, we spent our summers there. They also spend
time at their his his dad's brother has a mansion

(20:58):
in Newport, Rhode Island, and they have a sailboat. We're
a really big sailboat that he and his fraternity brothers
go and depending on Chad when his buddies are with her,
they play golf at the greatest country club. They're playing
Shannacock next week, right, Yeah, they're going down. They'll they'll
have a suite at the Ryder Cup. You know, you
know that's a bad thing. Not that all Chadwicks have it,

(21:19):
but the name Chadwick. It reeks of give me another
good name. That's a that's a that's a IVY league.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
No doubt.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
Tanner, well, Tanner's all white all the time, there's no doubt.
But Chadwick, Chadwick Bosen maybe the only non white Chadwick.
I know there's some Chad's Chad Johnson, but I mean,
where where they I feel like, oh, Chadwick, you're you
gotta be Chadwick on your verstivity. Right, So it just
feels like the name that Chadhills, he's got to he

(21:50):
just started a VC and you know he's a venture capitalist.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Of course, got to start up all.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
They just they did their first round of funding.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
They just raised one hundred million.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
Hey man, I want I want to talk with you
about something. Hey, hey, you know what you think your
boss would be interested?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
No?

Speaker 5 (22:08):
I don't think they would, Chadwick. Yeah right, yeah, so
now we're good.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
It's okay. You're a basic white guy. Yeah that's okay.
Just you own it. I do embrace it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
So with all that said, click Capella would look at, say,
two basic white guys while we're saying an acappella but
big get right, a couple of them go for depth.
I just wonder, is there a move with somebody going
out the door? Still, that's what it seems like. It
looks like it's trending in that direction.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
We'll see.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
So, I mean, it's just I'm just reading the tea
leaves here where I don't think you're gonna have three
centers and you just signed a guy to a three
year deal, all guaranteed, and you just re upped Steven Adams.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
So what it gains Adam for three? Did I see three?

Speaker 5 (22:52):
I think it was three for Adams too, So yeah,
getting more physical, uh, adding some closer, longer and feeling
on the wings big time. Been a lot of length
three and you can knock down shots, yeah, which the
last one knock the first one right finished, no question,
But Capella though long and and gives you another.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Nick.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
We can run the court pretty damn well. And it's
been a while since it's been but gosh, it feels
like a long time since he's been here. And I
know it hadn't been that long, but it just feels
like it. But he's done a good job moving his
career forward. I think that's a really good get depth twice,
I do for sure.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
For sure, it's something we'll talk about as the show
goes along. Jason, Chris, see you guys right there seven
one three two one two five seven ninety against seven
one three two one two five seven ninety And what
the hell today if you either on the phone lines
or on Twitter, basic white guy name, we.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Had we had to miss some Well, let's have some
fun with this. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (23:52):
We we did this about a year and a half ago,
year ago, and they were coming up with some names.
I was freaking crying. They call in, come up, this
is a big white guy. But there we we we
we know who they are. Is Shawn's not a basic
white guy? Dam I No, No, I wouldn't think so.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
It's it's not. It's a working that's a working man's name.
It's a good it's a good, solid Irish name.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Dan.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Yeah, white guy, basic white guy for yeah yeah Dan right, yeah,
And you got the way he stressed you guys, Sean
Dan Tanner, Yeah, Dan Carley, thunder Dan Dan Well, I
mean went by Danny, but you know, he get to
be confused with Dolf. He could now be Dan.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
So Dan Janssen.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
Skater Yeah, big big ham Hawk legs, monster legs, right,
and far be it for me to you know, stare
at Hamhawks.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
But I went away.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
It's so bad because when you trade quarterbacks of one
of the first things I do is look how big
is my quarterbacks?

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Thought? You know, the big strong lower.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Half I do.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
That's the the huge sounds weird, but that's that's that's
the way I beat it. But you get my point.
I want to know, man, how powerful are they in
the lower body. That's the h freeze with ankles. Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Supposedly, whenever he'd go see recruits, if they're wearing pantsy,
go let me see the ankles, and if they're a
little you know, fat down there, and.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
Ankles is non athletic. Yeah, oh okay, I'll tell you another
things non athletics toes pointed out an athlete. Now, Lebron
is one of the few toes pointed way out when
the heels are inside toast point. We usually call that
guy spewey at a football camp. Has all the stuff
but can't play a lick. You know, man, he looks good,
he's got goggles on under his helmet, does it all.
And then you put him out there and you see
him start walking to the line of screening. He's like,

(25:32):
oh hell, we're screwed. Little pigeon toad, little turned in
Like that's athletic. No, it's not always the case, but
we called that guy spewey at camps and toes pointed out,
and you knew he was a heel toe guy on
the athletic field, not in a long distance run. Like, yes,
if you're scouting guy, Hey, why didn't you draft him?
He's a toast pointed out guy. He's not athletic. You

(25:55):
can all you can always go back to it, that's
for sure.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
But yeah, we're just getting started here on the sho
Sean Salisbury's show. Plenty of astros, plenty of rockets, everything
in between right here is so we continue along here
on this Tuesday edition of the show.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
The seven to ninety.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Listener line in the six o'clock hour is brought to
you by one eight hundred car cash. You know, me
and Gordy, you're going to be in Atlanta for SEC
Media Days, so I'll be there doing the show and
all of that. And last year SEC Media Days was
in Dallas, and of course the All Star Game was
in Arlington, so we went over to the All Star
Game for that.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
But this year it's in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
And I joked with Chuck Dunlap of the SEC, I said,
so you guys are just going to follow the All
Star Game every year? He goes, yeah, it's kind of
you know, shaping up to be that way, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
So who knows?

Speaker 5 (26:41):
Its not a bad gig, No, it's not. Yeah, especially for.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Tradition you'll bring even more people to it.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Right, right, And that's they always would have sec media
days during All Star Game week because of a huge
swath of the media that covers the conferences in Atlanta,
or at least you know, is covering the breakout, right exactly.
So their thought was, all right, well, there's there's nothing
that gets in the way, so they'll all be here.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
And plus it's a fairly easy sports week as far
as demand, right because you got.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
The All Star Game.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
Then post All Star Game, they get the next day
off and they're traveling or whatever to their next city.
You know, all the other sports for the most part
are done. You know, tennis is going on doing their
golf as well, and you're getting ready. But it did
that that day does not or that even that weekend
does not conflict with you know, with with a lot
of there's not a lot of conflicts sports wise. And
then you know, once that British Open hits, then it's

(27:35):
sports heaven. After British opens over, then we're back to okay,
all Star games over, baseball's in full swing.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
We get all this, you know.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
The summer league basketball is right around the corner, and
then football starts and kicks in and until the end
of February, you are locked in, loaded with the best
and the best sports on the plan.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I would probably say that you know this that week
is kind of like what New Year's Day is to
baseball fans, that once you get north of New Year's Day,
you're like, all right, hey, we're we're close, Like base
Baseball's here and further for this it's it's football, because
I mean, you go to SEC Media Days, which, by
the way, you haven't seen a radio row until you've

(28:15):
been the SEC Media Days. Because then you find out
towns in Arkansas and Alabama and Mississippi and all these
other places that you're like, I didn't even know that
that place existed.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
Right, Oh yeah, packed, and they're ready to me. I've
always said when when July fourth is over, you're you're
you're you've turned in, and if you're a football fan,
you're you're players as well. Once July fourth was over,
you felt like your last vacation was done, and now
it's time to mentally and just get yourself right because
you're a couple of weeks away from getting your butt.

(28:45):
You know, young guys, and you used to maybe start
to get if you're gonna, if you're living in off
another city, you've already started to move your stuff back
to your apartment, or you're off, you're in season home
and mentally, even if you have two weeks before you
got to go in truth, you're not in vacation mode.
Now it's okay, the's about to start. That's exactly right.
So that's post July fourth for me, it was always

(29:05):
post your Life fourth, and then it was it was
time to start thinking about.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
My sport for sure.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Seven one three, two one two five seven ninety the
number to get in Jason, Good morning, how you doing?

Speaker 7 (29:17):
Good morning fellows, how y'all doing today?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Good mate?

Speaker 7 (29:21):
Look guy, before I get to Jeremy Peney. I grew
up in this small town of Hackbury, Louisiana, and my
good friend's name was Bobba Loo Hanks.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Say that again, Bobb a Loo, Bob Bobba.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Loo Hanks, Bob Blue Hanks, Bob.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Called oh, okay, bobble Loo is what you guys called him?
Was Bob Bobby Lewis Hanks or what was his Bob
Lou dash.

Speaker 7 (29:46):
No, it was Bobby lou Hanks.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Bobby Lou Lou the in the middle right. Yeah, nice, okay,
But Bobby Lou Bobba Loo, nice nickname.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
I like that. How's your guy? I like it?

Speaker 7 (30:03):
Yep, good friend of mine. He didn't like it, but
he loved it because he was all his buddies. But
when it comes to when it comes to Jeremy Pinya,
this is a time where the Astros are gonna really
figure out how important he really is because, like you

(30:26):
said earlier, man, you don't have alba Is right now.
You're dealing with a lot of injuries. And he was
the leadoff guy and you could always count on him
to get on base. And now this changes the way
he probably plays shortstop for a good little while, because
I mean, when you have a really when you have
a riot of injury, that changes the way you slide.

(30:49):
It changes the way if you have to die to
grab a baseball, you know, to keep it from going
in the outfield, you know, and now you gotta you know, Now,
this really puts Dubon in a great spot because we
all know he's one of the best utility players in
the game right now, and you know him playing shortstop's

(31:11):
gonna help out now. So I mean this, this is
a This could either be a good thing for the
Astros when it comes to negotiating when it comes to
Delan di Boris, and then this this could also really
really be a true telling point of he's always been
really good, He's always been important to the team, but

(31:33):
like this changes the way that you construct your lineup
and like pretty much going forward, you know he's We're
not sure if he's gonna doctor it every game, but
this this is a good chance or in a good
spot to where he can sit out of a while
and get healthy because they got a good lead. I
don't really see Seattle or Texas really taking a run

(31:58):
anytime soon. So this is a good chance for us
to see kind of where the negotiation balls around. If
it helps us, if it hurts us going forward, I
think it changes the dynamic ifout plays the rest of
the season. That's pretty much how I feel about it.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
I appreciate the call, Chase, and and you know, it's
something we can continue to get into. I mean, because
we've shared a little bit in the first segments, you
know just about how important he is to this team.
So we'll do that and Uh.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
And Dan real quick as we go to break and
talk about about that. What he's talking about as well,
is I would The thing that concerns me is he's
been hot. The disruption of that for an extended amount
of time, because then what happens in that area You
start to get a little if it's tender. What do
we do if I my shoulder sores a throw? You
don't want to get tired? What do you do?

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Change your armslat a little bit?

Speaker 5 (32:47):
Sure, And so so what starts to happen is the
mechanics change a little bit. Now you got to be
dialed in, but it it's normal for you to say, man, okay,
so now now now you're it changes, so you almost
got to go refix it and hopefully you stay locked
in as mentally as you can. But you know, when
you have that injury, it's like all you got to
do is drop your hands another inch or two and
it's our position wise and now you're in chians off.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
Yeah, So it's for me, it's his the way he's
built this where it's like he's seeing everything.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
It appears to me the way a hot player.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
But he's been hot all year long from the big
he's just started to roll, you know, and when he
got going.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
So that's my concern.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
He'll heal and fine, But the longer it takes, the
more I get worried about how long does it take
to get back into being Jeremy Paine you twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
It's a real concern and it's something we can talk
about again. Chris matt Wan see you guys right there.
We'll get you guys involved. Seon one three two one
two five seven ninety against Someone three two one two
five seven ninety Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk, seven ninety.

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Speaker 4 (35:12):
Boy You're back. This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Get
back at It Morning, Chris, Top of the Morning Fellas. Man.

Speaker 8 (35:22):
I am just pumped about what this killer Raphael Stone
is doing. I thought maybe that Durant move would be
obviously a huge blockbuster deal, and maybe they'll find some
guys on the edges there just to fill out the rotation. Gladly,
I was proven wrong once again. This guy just going
out there, adding the Finney Smith which is now standing
three in d guy. The guy is a dog on defense,

(35:45):
so he's he fit in perfectly because he doesn't really
need to score anything the lights out a three point shooter.
Then addressing the depth, adding another legit big net bringing
bringing back.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
The big fellow Capella.

Speaker 8 (35:56):
So this has been a masterful offseason for the Rockets,
and to me, uh, they're just not settling to compete
with okay See. They want to take out okay See
and and come out and win the title next year
in and hopefully with the trend going with seven different
winners seven straight years. To me, okay See's not that
unbeatable guy, because as good as they are, they were

(36:18):
very very vulnerable, and to me they should They probably
would have lost to Denver in the semifinal. Gordon did
it pull his handstrings. So I'm just loving what this
guy's doing. This rebuild I thought would be long term
as rockets.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Oh it wasn't me. I think he just dropped it happens,
he made it.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
We got his point, good point that he likes where
they're going and the big point there and he mentioned
the players. You do have two Smiths that are both
three and D guys with that ability and knockdown shots
and play you on a perimeter on the other end
and important, right, But for me, if you had a
question that they were going all in to win the
thing now and not not nurturing young players to say, okay,

(36:58):
we'll go through two three years, which is import But
that's that that that that part of the ship has sailed.
These young players are now starting to come into their own.
It's time for the next elevation of the Whitmores and
the Jabbari Smiths and East. I mean they're they're there.
We've seen that jump from Thompson on a consistent basis, right,
and you add these type of guys to the mix,
some veterans and some they're getting pieces.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
It doesn't.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
It's not always about the superstar deal where everybody's got
to be the chef. They went out and got some
guys that can be a chef at times, but also
understand what it's like to move theirselves around a kitchen.
And if you wondered if they were all in, this
team's not going in to get to the playoffs. They
did that with Jalen Green and the group they had
and Dylan Brooks, and probably could have if they'd have
played even halfway decent.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
They win.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
They pulled their star score, played poor six of the
seven games and it still went seven games.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
Does that make sense? Yeah, so they're overall.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
If you said they're gonna do it again next year,
who you're picking, Golden State or Houston? Gimme Houston all
day and twice on Sunday. No disrespect to Golden State.
So for me, Dan, if you were questioning at any
point in time, well, how long until they're gonna go
get another level? And we're saying that Nudoka had a
twenty plus win team two years ago and now that

(38:14):
the second best record in the what in the Western Conference,
and they didn't.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
They didn't. It would have been easy to say.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
Look, we're the second best record in Western Conference. Right,
we had a few lapses in the Golden State Series.
We're good well, had a few small pieces. We don't
need to do much. It would have been easy to
be complacent. They went aggressive. They didn't play passive. They
went out and jumped right into the fray. Traded for one, go,
get a couple other guys may not be done yet.
So if you had to and then sign, you get

(38:40):
Smith signed, you get Van Vliet signed, even though, and
then you got him at your price.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
What haven't they done right this offseason so far? What's next?
Who knows?

Speaker 5 (38:50):
But if you were wondering if they're all in and
playing for a championship, don't be misled. They're not playing
for the Western Conference final. They're playing to win the
whole thing. And spacing is nice. But spacing is nice
if if you make shots. They at times did not
make shots last year, and that's why, well, there's no
spacing if you don't make shots well.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
And then that's the problem is then you know you're
starting to try to force it into Alprin Schengoon. You're
trying to get Jalen Green going in. He's being double
teamed and blitzed and all of these other things that
we were hearing about the way he was being defended
in the you know, in the playoffs. So I mean
all of those things that they feed in where there
were two goals that were set out this year in

(39:28):
this offseason for this team, get longer and get better
shooting the basketball from the outs.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
Hez the Baltimore Ravens for an example. We can compare
it to anything. They just stick out. They went and
got Derrick Henry and Kevin Durant. Oh, their best is
behind him, right, Like I said, Durant to fall out
of bed score twenty five without even blinking. And Derrick
Henry on a decent team, carry the ball twenty times,
you're probably getting a hundred plus normally, and if not,

(39:54):
you're going to be punished for tackling him. But take
a look at when you talk about spacing, Goon's job
get easier and Durance and the guys who are going
to be pumping long range shots with that spacing, does
it not get easier when the other half, meaning if
you're not the inside guy with your back to the
basket or down in the low block, and you're knocking
down shots, doesn't it become easier for the low low

(40:15):
block guy to get his you know, shen goon in
the group, to get there, to be able to make
easier decisions.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
There's a lot of one on ones there, sure is.
That's what I about to say.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
Hard to get doubled when you're getting not when you're
knocking down shots, especially on a consistent basis. And so
when you look at Baltimore, when you defend Lamar Jackson,
it's one thing. Now you added Derek Henry to it.
How you defend him. If they're going good, If you
sell out to the run, Lamar's killed you with his
legs or the way he's throwing the football. If you
sell out to the pass and back off and play
two deep, two ice safeties and the box favors us,

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Derek Henry will run for three hundred yards and beat
you down the whole way there. This is the same thing,
knockdown shots and be able to pound it into the
low block. It just gives you more spacing. And it's
what's made a lot of teams like Golden State and
teams of the past to be able to have a
presence inside, to be able to defend on the other end,
but also that when you need a knockdown shots to
create spacing, it just gives your bigs a lot more

(41:08):
latitude down in the low play, in the in the
low paint, and in that inside those mid range jump
shots are playing with your back to the basket.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
It just does.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
There is the reason why we're highly anticipating this Rocket season.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
I've never anticipated it more. Yeah, that's for me since
I've been here, and that's that's and we were here
through the garden and Paul and Rustbrook, it feels more
unselfish to me. Well, it's just there's also far more unselfish.
There's even more reason to believe so. And you know
who the stars are and who the role players are,
and those role players will like with the Astros play

(41:40):
a big part of this.

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Speaker 4 (42:12):
Okay, let's do this. Sewan Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
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Speaker 6 (42:19):
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Speaker 3 (42:28):
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Speaker 4 (42:51):
What's going on?

Speaker 9 (42:54):
How about Duncan and Dustin for a white guy named.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Two very good ones very good? You know it's like
almost because he used to be part of the Dan
Patrick Show, didn't you. And it used to be like
where we need to have a bell for it, like
if we ever have stuff like this, because remember where
it would be, you know, wan In Mott Bellevue.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Hey, guys six two two ten.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
Oh yeah ding yeah, yeah, there you go the tail
of the tape thing, so you get you get two
bells right there? Who was I missed the stackle? Get
heard Dunkustin? Oh Dustin? Oh yeah yeah, Well I'm trying
to think Dusty Baker. But hey hey hey one great point.
Does anybody do you know do you know a non
white Dustin? No, I don't think I've ever met one,

(43:35):
and I I can't. I'm sitting here trying to think
and all my teams that I've played for in my
life grown up. Hey, Dustin, it's just that he's or Duncan.
I mean it's Dustin as well. Both fit, but Duncan,
I I don't. That's that's all white all the time.
It is. He's got to be the one that's one

(43:56):
of the most average white guys on the planet. Right, Hey, Dunk,
it's up Duncan. Yeah, Oh, there's no doubt that fits.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
Very good.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
Yeah, good call one, nice stuff. What do you think
about these rockets?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Man?

Speaker 4 (44:09):
So I have a question about the cap.

Speaker 9 (44:11):
I'm all for all the acquisitions we just made and
Stoneley trust he's doing great moves, but what are we
gonna do with the money saying that we're getting past
the taxpayer mid level exception?

Speaker 10 (44:23):
What can he do in order to keep us out?

Speaker 9 (44:24):
And does that mean that we have to ship off,
you know, another core guy of the young guys, and
what does it look like?

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (44:34):
I appreciate the call.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
I know.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
I saw Danielle Lerner last night.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Uh brought that up stuff on thank you, And the
thought is that like Cam Whitmore could be on his
way out and you know what for that.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
For the deep dive into exact where they stand. Ben
to Boz join us atay thirty. Right, Yes, who covers
the rockets extremely well in sports in this town. I'll
bet he can answer that for us. Oh yeah, I
mean we can look it up, but to get a
precise answer because you know those guys who cover that
and the chandeler romes the world are dialed in and
you know be Mac, Brian, McTaggart, all of them there.

(45:05):
When it comes to that, it's like, I mean, down
to the dollar. They have a pretty good idea where
the space is and how to get to. Once you
know what it is, then we can also help how
to get to it. But one will at eight thirty
if you're around listening, and we'll try to get it
out there and you'll be able to hear Ben Debose's
interview as well here and on our podcast. But yeah,
well we'll see if Ben can answer that question. Are

(45:26):
you with a mid level exception or with a salary
cap issue?

Speaker 4 (45:30):
Do you got to move a guy on to clear space.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
And we'll dive into that with somebody who probably knows
that cap a little bit better than I do.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Dan.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
I mean, we can speculate, but I can't get within
a you know, the dollar amount in my mind knowing
how this works. And the truth is they've made have
they not made trades at NBA drafts and trade. This
is a protective pick if you tried to figure it out.
It's like quarterback rating system. Even quarterbacks don't know the
rating system, honest to god. At no time in my

(45:57):
career it's like Warren Bates right now, I still have
zero idea. Yeah, I mean with war right, how you
figured out our quarterback rating? Now they can put it
up there. No quarterback I know knows. Maybe they do
now because you pay attention to it for money or
what have I don't know. I never knew it. Still
to this day, it's like it's complicated. And when it
comes to this and this and moving guys and after
the from mid level exception to drafts and protected picks

(46:19):
and all that it is, you got to have a PhD.
I'm talking about, to be a deep dive into that thing.
A PhD in quite frankly in analytics. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
Well, I think there is actually like an equation for war?
What there is? Sure? Fine, do you want to take
the time to put it together?

Speaker 6 (46:36):
No?

Speaker 4 (46:36):
I don't, as well figure out pie.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
And then I think another good example is you know
something that some will fall into the trap of doing, oh, well,
the Pro Football Focus grades And I'm like, okay, what
does that even mean?

Speaker 5 (46:48):
Like like what are they grading against? What is their
their formula? Like you got to show me the work
on that, right, Like I can't just see. Hey, this
right guard was ninth in the NFL this week amongst
right guards. Okay, and they based off and they have
their Listen, we're being fortunate. We've had a lot of
great the guys who are do deep dives from Pro

(47:09):
Football Focus have come on our show and they will
during the fall for football. Got some really good insight.
But here here's what it is. It's all relative.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Work.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
But I'm with you. The company, well, what's their criteria?
And they have their criester and I know this for
I you know, Collinsworth owns that. That's part of his
that's his company, and he's got all these great people doing.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
We're all do and Sean.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
You know we we will, you know, take these amounts
of plays and you know, look at him against you
know plays, say, you know the Texans played against the
Jaguars a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
Now Palin Tworth swears by, well, it's his company, but
he refers to it even on his broadcast, which is fine.
They do great work, but it's not the end all
what I may see that they may see. They may
be greating something different. My thing is, are you are
you moving the pile or you're not giving up sacks
and you are are you giving us a chance to win?
You know, there's this deep dive on their boom boom boom,

(48:05):
and people rely on them and they're good. I get it,
but it's just different criteria. So what they may look at.
Have a guy ranked it in ninety two. You can't
jump off side sixteen times and have a high ragging
in the nineties. In my book, if you're larying me
TNSL when the ball snap, now give me the stat
ball snap, pre snap, all that other stuff different. Now
I'm marking you down for penalties unless they're an aggressive

(48:27):
protect your quarterback penalty. You're holding or jumping off sides
all the time, just on basic stuff. Then I can't
rank you as the second best offensive lineman of the week.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
I'm just sorry. I can't.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
Okay, But they do have their formula, but really it's
just their formula is not the end. All depends on
who's following it. Some don't, there's some who don't won't
pay attention to it, and there's some who swear by it.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
And that's okay.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
The Rockets projected salary right now from what I could
just look up, is one hundred and ninety four point five.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
That's the season for right now. Where they set with
their roster, they're in the first apron.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Of the tax the the NBA, you know obviously, uh,
luxury taxes, all of that.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
So they're in the first part of that, okay, so
kind of similar to and the question is what does
that mean. If they're in the first part of that,
then they're they getting fine getting stripped of something? Are
they getting I don't what does that mean? The first
it is like a probationary period what I mean to
of their clothest like the appetizers. If you go a
little further now, you're going to be in trouble and
you're going to get taxed on it. That's that's something

(49:30):
when it comes to that deep dive of where they
got to go and how they got to move contracts
around and because one's a five year deal, one is
a two year deal, and how football is easier because
you can spread it out and sign. That's why when
people say, hey, he's redoing his deal, people think that's
a pay cut.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
No.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
No, when you go to adventure, you're just moving money around.
They end up getting more because they get more upfront.
They let them do what they want with it, and
it's working in the sad cap But honestly, you have
to be I would imagine even a lot of gms
in this in in sports, that's why they have a
capologist or a because everybody making deals, it's talent, scout
and talent to ask them every single hey, what's this this? Well,

(50:05):
let me let me go talk to my guy who's
the money guy who was an accountant and we went
and hired him and he's got a doctorate in fifty
things and he's a master's degree and that he'll tell
you to the dime what it is. There's not enough
time in the day for a general manager to do
it all. So as a fan, some get into it
and I think it's awesome. That's why I lean on
when it comes to salary cap that I know this

(50:26):
in football, I can manipulate the salary cap to make
it work. I can move money around to make it
work if I wanted. That's why when people say wow,
they're almost over the cap, they got a plan. People
know how to move money around to make it work.
And I'm sure the same thing is here, but baseball
doesn't quite figure that out yet because we don't have
one other than the luxury tax, but a true salary cap.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
If anybody's being honest in this business, you have a
blind spot. And for me, it's always been salary caps.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
It is I am.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
I am the gift of Julia Roberts looking around confused
and like numbers and everything are like floating around her.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
That's me the numbers.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
For me, I'm a numbers guy because of football and
county all those things. But the other side of it
is not the deep dive. And if you tell me, Sean,
you want to analyze this and watch the tape and
do this or do you want to go deep dive
and like mathematician where you're figuring out formulas of how
we fit this guy in. You defer because I don't
think you can be a doctor and a lawyer in
the same building the same guy.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
You can't be great at both.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Day.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
You may think you want to be a lawyer when
you debate with your buddy on Twitter, but you're a doctor.
You're not going to dominate both. You get my point.
It's the same thing here. If you're a general managerer
focused on this, that's why you put a guy standing
right next to you say we're going to handle the analytics,
the metrics, the salary cap whatever that is. I'm with you, Well,
I get the deep dive of hey man, do you
know what happens when this mid level thing you just

(51:46):
put it? Put it in front of me so I
know how to explain that. But as far as figuring
out the formula to get to it, nah, that's above
my pay grade. Brother, Yeah, and rely on people that
do that for a living.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
I was going to say, usually that's when I bring
on the you know, like Joel Corey. Oh, of course,
good guy to bring on you know people like that.
You know I can answer it with who know it
in every sport right now? Can pull it up just
like if I say, hey, you know the Georgia quarterback
is you'll know forever? Oh yeah, the history of who
played in nineteen eighty or at least the moneygazine.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
That's there, So I'm going to look it up. Oh yeah,
hey there are there. Second guy?

Speaker 10 (52:19):
Is this?

Speaker 5 (52:19):
But I do like the question because it makes you
think more like man, I don't how but as you
mentioned in the first layer, and it makes a good
point because it does matter. But that's why those experts
get paid the big money, right for sure?

Speaker 4 (52:30):
For sure. Hey, look, job security is a good thing, Roger.
See you right there.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
We'll get you involved in the conversation. But coming up,
this part of life is hard and someone maybe even
for some maybe it even harder. We'll talk about it
right here. It is The Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
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Speaker 4 (53:01):
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Speaker 3 (53:12):
It's a Tuesday edition of the show Astros in Colorado
for three against the Rockies, sharing me paina on the
shelf with a fractured rib, and the Rockets wasted no
time in free agency, four year deal for forward Dorian
Finney Smith, also a three year deal for Clint Capella
to come back. All right, we'll get to the steak
out here in just a second, because there is some

(53:33):
audio that accompanies today's steakouts and it deals in the
world of dating, and it's gonna make a lot of
sense once you hear it. But real quick, though, let's
get Roger involved. Roger, what's going on?

Speaker 11 (53:45):
Hey, good morning, Jent. Real quick, so, yeah, I think
this deal, these deals for the Rockets that happened overnight,
I would to say early. So yeah, overnight. So what
is a Colin Connor? Which what's the colling cards for
all all our sports teams in Houston?

Speaker 1 (54:03):
What?

Speaker 11 (54:04):
What what's the U of Ages calling cards? What's the
Rockets calling cards? What's the Texas calling cards? Finally, what
the all? It's gotta be defense, right.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Yeah, seems like that's that's probably across the board.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
That's a fact.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
Pitching is part of defense and the way that the
Rockets are playing. I mean that the the way that
the Texans defenses, I think they're gonna be a top
five defense in the league this year. Yes, their defense
is their strong point.

Speaker 11 (54:30):
So I would think our culture around Houston now is
defense first, and you know, sprinkle in some offense and
you know, you find find a way to get to
shut them down in the fourth quarter. It's pretty much
the par for the course of all for all our
teams in Houston, which is awesome because that's never been
our coach and not not with all all of teams,

(54:51):
not with all of our teams. And I just think
the Rockets found the right sprinkle of offense to to
mix in with that, with that bush that sets in
and he's got the right guy. He got Now he's
got his team. Now, he's got his Vets, his rookies
word they turn transformed.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
At the Vets.

Speaker 11 (55:10):
Now he's got Vets, knows how to coach him, knows
how to coach him hard. They know how to take
it and and and and and move forward with with
what he's what he's given them. And I just think
it's gonna be an awesome tripe to see injuries aside,
But yes, I just think that that the the Rockets
have that right perfect mix going and it's gonna be

(55:30):
nice to see it really is, and that that's the
same with all mostly all our teams. The Astros are
doing something else is on nomine I don't know, ass
are doing it with glue, glue take the bubble gum man.
These guys are just going going at it and just uh,
you know, to throw a cautious to the winner say
you know what, I'm gonna What this game is all
is who's on, who's on the who's in the lineup,
who's not a lot of who's taking them out, who's

(55:52):
doing the level? No matter, it's gonna do it, we
do it. I just think it's just it's a rarity man,
all right, guys, I got a.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Good one, you too, Roger.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
By any means necessary, it's pretty much the way that
the Astros have done things this year, and.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
You'd absolutely it has all right.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
So that actually feeds in perfectly to now because dating
it's not easy. It is one of the toughest things
to do, Triple le knows, and especially to on the
dating apps world now because you don't have the person
to person interaction when it comes to it. So the
first impression you make is how good are your one liners?

(56:29):
How good are your your you know, your first line
that you have to either the guy or the girl
that you're trying to rise up and you're trying to
take out on that date, and maybe you find out
that things work out well. So there's a girl on
TikTok Sean who goes by the name of cathin twenty
five and she has found a way to try to

(56:52):
weed out guys that she actually wants to meet up
with as opposed to guys that are the FB category.
If you need to know what FB is, I can
tell you that off the air. But she put out
a challenge to them that you know, they're asking, you know, hey,
what you know, what what do I have to do
to get to get you to talk or whatever?

Speaker 2 (57:11):
You know.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
However, to try to get the conversation.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Going, she told them that her way to get them
to talk to them was that they had to do
the Tim Allen grunt from Home Improvement. And here are
some of the examples.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
Too much.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Almost there, oh, awful, out, totally out. At least the
last guy, you know, he knew that that it was
not good. But Sean, I mean I admire I admire

(57:58):
her her vetting process here of seeing all right, you
know what, hey, this is this is an uncomfortable situation
for both of us. So why don't Why don't I
make you a little bit more uncomfortable and it kind
of takes the pressure off of me.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Yeah, no, thanks. I don't do ultimatums. I just don't.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
I don't do ultimatums. Forget the pressure. No, And she
came with with this win, I don't do. I don't
do ultimate one. As you put that on me, it's like,
get to step and I'm done. It's you're you're you're
already putting stipulations before we've even had a spoken word.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
To each other.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
That doesn't happen. That's uh, that's not worth my time
and effort. I don't care how hot or how good.
No done, It's it's the age.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
It's the age old in uh in dating, you know,
oh you know, why are you single?

Speaker 4 (58:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
It's like I think I have a good idea. That's
that's that's undre present what it is. It's like it's like, yeah,
there's there's there's you're a lot to deal with. I
can tell you no, I'm not. If I gotta. If
I got a.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
Babysit manage and be given ultimatums, I can find another
relationship or be single the rest of my life.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
I could care less. I don't do that. I don't really.

Speaker 5 (59:04):
I don't do ultimatums when it comes out, especially when
you don't know me before I get into the mix.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Yeah, I got a few ultimatums on my own. How's that?

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Then you become a viral video right there? No thanks,
I don't think that, you know, I don't think names
were attached to this, but I mean it's still one
of those that you're being asked to do that.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
It's like kind of feel like I'm being put on here,
kind of yeah, you're being put on. No way.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
Whenever I start to hear that, I start to your
head's on a swivel, like, okay, what's the catch here?

Speaker 4 (59:35):
No, I'm out. I think the response back for me
would have been I'm not doing that. Yeah. They wouldn't
have needed a response.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
My face would have said it all, resting bitch face
would have been right back in your kitchen, okay.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
As the ladies like to God, no thanks.

Speaker 5 (59:48):
Like I said, ultimatums when it comes to relationships, if
you give me the ultimatum, it's probably going to be.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
The one you didn't want to hear.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
Well, if you don't do this, you do this, or
you got to do this, it's probably going to be
the one where you might find somebody else not worth.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
It to me.

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
See, like I said, dating is hard enough, and I mean,
and this is exhibiting. Yeah, yeah, that's that's cool. I'm
I'm good.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Thanks, what tripoli? You find you a good one?

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Stay with her man, I'm telling you, it makes it
makes all the difference now it because that's the thing too,
is it gets back to and I brought this example
up when we've done similar topics before of the guy
that was getting after del Curry on on Twitter when
you know, found out that he and missus Curry had

(01:00:35):
divorced and he was back out there in the dating world,
and he was like, you haven't been in here, you haven't.
You haven't been in this world. You don't want to
be in this world. You don't, you don't want this. See,
Like that's that's what always cracks me up, is oh
I could always do better?

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
Well, was it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Richard Jenkins in the movie Hall Pass. I loved his
line to his buddy. Every loser in Vegas thinks they
can do better. That's why they keep going back. It's
not fun, man. I I can't say it enough that
the single guys out there, because I just gave the
advice to the triple le you find you a good one,
stay with her, trust me. Yeah it works, it works.

(01:01:14):
But uh yeah, I as far as me trying to
get Sewan to do the Tim do you have one?
If you even want to come on?

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
Dude, if I'm not taking the ultimatum, why would I
do something I wouldn't know how to do on this air?

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Yeah? No, you want to do it me? Yeah? Yeah,
not good.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
I would see what happens now that that's just that
was right there, that's the deal breaker already.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
It'd be like, you know, I'm out Borland in that
case because Al was always the straight man on the show,
you know, because Tim was the guy that always screwed
everything up during home improvement. Uh yeah, or no, no
tool time yeah, tool time, but tool time?

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
No, I'm does everybody know what time it is?

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
Even by doing it right there, you succumbed.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
You gave in.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
No, I'm not doing that. I'll do a lot of
stupid stuff. Yeah too, not on an ultimatum from a
woman that I don't know. So your meat loaf, yeah loaf, Yep,
that's exactly I will do anything for a long time.
That's right, that's exactly right. I remember that cut.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
I remember Doctor Pepper had a commercial where it was
the guy wouldn't share his Doctor Pepper, and then she
finally got his Doctor Pepper and he was running down
the street and she's running after him while like the
chorus of the song is playing.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
Right, Yeah, and uheper good old soda commercials as well,
so to coke whatever you want to call it, even
though it's Doctor Pepper. Yeah, no, No, ultimatums are not
good in a relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
I got a cousin of mine who his pet peeve
amongst all pet peeves, is not sharing food. And he
had a breakup because he went to the movies with
her and he asked, Hey, I'm going to go to
the concession standing you want anything, No, I'm good. Then
she started eating some of his popcorn and he was like,
I can't get past it. So he doesn't like to share,
does not like to share his funderstand. I always think

(01:02:59):
it's weird when somebody goes out to dinner and I understand,
you may not be hungry and eat appetizer together. I
always find it weird when they share an entree. Is
that is that normal?

Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
I'm talking about when nobody the other one doesn't order anything,
and they sit there and they order, and then they'll
they cut their piece of chicken.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
In half, and it just feels weird to me.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
Not the appetizer, or if it's just a quick thing
and you're not overly hungry, then maybe just stick with
the appetizer.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
I just say that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
Then it's not a bad thing. It just looks odd
to me. I'm going there, I order, and you're gonna
move shoulder to shoulder with me, and I'm going to
give you half my piece of steak. I'll give you
a bite of it, but order your own sake.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
Portion size.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Like we went to a restaurant once in One of
their specialties was a tomahawk, and I forget how many
ounces it was, but it was gonna be too much
for me. It can be too much for her, but
it was gonna be perfect for us both to split, right, you.

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
Tell them in the back kitchen, right, it just looks look, hey,
bring out your plate.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
We all share, right, I like to think.

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
But but when you come out, it's like we just
ordered the one plate and I, oh, yeah, yeah, hey yeah,
that the ve that everything you ordered, I'm putting on
your plate in front of the world to do it
in the back, and it looks like we're just I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
The optics are weird to me. Yeah, And I was
about to center.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
Tomahawk because you wanted, because it was there especially, But
if you can't handle the tomahawk alone or don't want
to give a bite, then order a smaller steak.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
I would say the pressent at the time. I'm very much.
There's two for me. It's number one. If I ordered something,
I ordered it for myself. But the other one is
I don't like to order with somebody else's table ordered.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
That's fair.

Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
I mean, if everybody orders the same thing, you don't
get to step out, and I don't have sharing the
appetite all that. It's not even a big deal. I
just I'm not If you go grab yours, I'll grab my.
And if you don't want to get a smaller one,
and well we'll share that. But if it's a steak
or something or post in the back, or a salad,
you don't get the big salads too big, do that
all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
Just put it in two bowls and we'll split.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
The quickest way too, to uh find yourself in the
doghouse is to reach on to my plate, oh and
grab something unless I am completely finished, Yeah, and I say, hey,
would you like some? It's just rude, right, that's just rude. Well,
I mean it's it's a bad look. It's what got
a guy. It's what got a guy whacked on the
Sopranos with phillyotarda.

Speaker 5 (01:05:08):
I get yourself finger chopped off? Never know, I mean,
you know, after dinner. That's what he found out, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Speaking of the Astros, a couple of guys you'd love
to see get going. And maybe there's good news on
that front. We'll talk about it right here. It is
Sean Salisbury Show on a Tuesday Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
The seven o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Hour, seven ninety listener line is presented by one eight
hundred car Cash. Of the chronicles that have been the
season for Christian Walker and we throw Jiner Dias in
there too, because he's another guy this season that just
has not been able to get it figured out at
the plate, kind of like Walker. It seems like he
has a good game or two and you think, all right, hey,

(01:05:47):
that's gonna be it for him. He's gonna be able
to finally get into a little bit of a groove
here and see the ball better and start to have
better performances at the plate. And it just hasn't necessarily
seemed like it has added up to doing so this season.

Speaker 5 (01:06:01):
Okay, let me, let me be the other guy, and
he hasn't lived up to Christian Walker, and hopefully it'll go.
But when it does go, how good do you expect
it to go? How big? So when are you at
your okay, this was worth it? What kind of numbers
or what kind of production? Cause very few players are
going to sustain great play. I mean, what are we

(01:06:22):
talking at two sixty hit or hit twenty five womornths?
What will you be happy with when we get to
September and you say he's turned it around?

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
What will it look like to you?

Speaker 5 (01:06:32):
So so it doesn't it will get you get out
of your head from being that guy. It's his performance
is bugging you on a consistent basis.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
What is it? Cut down the strikeouts, hit about three
hundred for a month.

Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
Hit about three hundred for a month, cut down strikeouts? Okay,
now are you? Would you replace him right now?

Speaker 7 (01:06:49):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
Okay, So you're gotta let him play through it. And
what if you did and the guy behind him was
the same, would you be bothered?

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Well, I mean, there's just no point in doing that
for the money to you've had tied up in him
and what he gives you defensively.

Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
Okay, So there you go. And now so you just
count or what do you say? It was a bust?
If he kind of goes like this, he ends up
hitting two forty drives in seventy eight or eighty runs,
drives in eighty runs and has.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
Twenty one home runs.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
See, I'm glad that you brought that up, because I
was thinking a lot of people are hung up on
this right now. Well, because the memories, the memories of
jose A. Brady were so much right without a braid,
you would you be pissed right now?

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
Would you?

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
Would you be a little more patient? It's a Brady
one that played in the max.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
I do I do believe that people would have more
patients with them if you didn't have a bridge.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
You yeah, would you okay, so you'd understand, you'd say, okay,
it's a new team, first start, different league from the
National League to the American League, getting adjusted right after
you lee, we haven't or Singleton was there that if
for Bray you the big money that he brought in
and didn't play like the former MVP that he was,
did it kind of not sour it, but as the
lack of production at that position since Uly's been gone

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got you to the point that we're almost premeditated to say, okay,
anything short of this is failure there that we're not
really even though he struggled, should we be judging in
by a season or should we be judging by the
midway point? Considering the invest what they put in it.
I would say slightly concerned. And the only reason I
wouldn't be more concerned is because the bats beat is
still there, the hard hit percentage is still there. All
the things that I'm sure we've all heard at nauseum,

(01:08:22):
but in terms of the overall the big B category,
the big B word, you just threw out there, We're
not even remotely to that line, and I think about
halfway through next year, if this continues, then maybe you
could because at that point where you've got a year
and a half left on the deal, then you could
say this is a sunk cost we missed again, we

(01:08:43):
move on. But I think that exactly what I brought
up last week about probably if you did not have
Josea bray You a year before, that could be a
possibility of sending him down the TRIPLEA to get figured out.
Because now I think that Dana Brown looks at this
as this is my guy, this, this is who I
stake myself to the other guy. He had plausible deniability

(01:09:04):
because it wasn't him. He didn't bring Josea bray You here.
He took over after Josea Brady was brought here, and
he finally got to a point where he just says, guys,
we can't keep doing this. We're not going to win
the division if we keep running this guy out here.
I don't think you're to that point with Christian Walker,
but you do need to see the production tick up
for him. What if I told you that Christian Walker
was going to be there like this the whole year

(01:09:27):
and in the postseason he was going to deliver like
you expected season ends. However, it is into the playoffs
and he's AND's forgiven at that point. Okay, all right,
So so you are willing to wait this out to
see if he can't.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
It's trusted.

Speaker 5 (01:09:40):
It's frustrating, And the question is can they win the
division and be a player without him being the Christian
Walker we saw in Arizona? I think that answer is
pretty clear right now. Now, would it make it easier?
And do I believe with Jeremy Pane out he is
going to have to elevate or somebody else, A couple guys, maybe, Hell,
it may take two to give me what pain has

(01:10:00):
given me, and Christian Walker being one of them would
be nice. But even if he goes on a hot
streak and tears up the league for thirty days and
then urinates down his leg the postseason or down the stretch,
and you'll still we'll still have the frustration. For me,
it's the assent to the crescendo of getting better. And

(01:10:20):
one thing about a brave you that his career always
had by month that got better. We have a third
baseman that played here did for the first month and
a half of the season, sucked offensively, absolutely sucked offensively,
and was a non factor in a lot of cases.
And he's a great player and is big here. But
maybe it's because of his production over the years here

(01:10:42):
in the postseason and what he met and his glove
and the rest of it that we were willing to
give him a Hall pass. Well, Walker's been doing it
longer than Bregman has. And so while it's new, and
I know, we want everybody, all eight positions to dominate, right,
not counting the pitcher. We want all Oh, you got
to be great, gotta be great. Hell, we were pissed
when Maldonado didn't get hit. Well, he was never going

(01:11:03):
to hit to twenty, Right, They'd get that clutch home
run once in a while, right, But he was there
for defensive purposes. We brought Walker was brought here to
be more productive at first base, an eight hundred ops guy.
But regardless, he's he's the struggle.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Going in now.

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
The questions, you couldn't do worse at first base, and
it's just a while to get going. And I'm not
defending listen, you know, I'm frustrated too, But I also
know that these things somehow work themselves out, and if
they don't, then eventually you'll get replaced. But they've proven
that they can win, but they keep having these injuries.
This is the time which would be really good for
a veteran like him to step up and take it

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with that responsibilities on his shoulders, and he delivered. Now
would send a loud message, I think to a lot
of people saying, now that's what we needed when you
got him. They can win without him being great, but
it'd be nice if he.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
Was really good.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Well, I got good news for you because lifetime against
the Colorado Rockies, he's a three twenty two hitter with
an over thousand OPS, second most against any opponent in
baseball home run wise twenty five, sixty nine runs batted
in against them. It gets better at least home run
wise twenty seven and fifty nine twenty seven homers, fifty
nine runs batted in against the Dodgers during his career,

(01:12:14):
and he ate sixty two OPS against La Right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
And even if he goes and.

Speaker 5 (01:12:19):
Has seven home runs in the two series in the
six games, six games.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
Yeah, six games from here to three there that's exactly right.

Speaker 5 (01:12:26):
So six game series and hits five home runs or
hits seven home runs, I'm talking about racks hits four
hundred in the two series in six games. Are you
home free or you still want to see it?

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
Right that?

Speaker 5 (01:12:40):
Now you're going to want to see it for the
not that, but you're going to they say, okay, that's
the start you'll get. It'll tease you. I can at
least see the sun is right there. You go right,
and I think at some point that'll come to fruition.
I don't know if you'll have the type of year
we expected, but the way it's going now, he doesn't
have to. He just has to play solid baseball at
the plate, where there's more consistency of ghetting the pitches,

(01:13:03):
not chasing bad stuff on the you know when somebody's
throwing it outside a non competitive pitch, and because his
natural power will take over. Does that mean thirty home
runs or twenty two?

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
It's it's when he delivers these hits Dan for me,
that's going to be more important.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
And I think it was Blumber that brought this up
on the TV side the other day that it was
a questionable strike call and he goes, Man, those seem
to happen to this guy more than anybody else this season,
And I was like, you know what, you're not wrong,
Like it seems like he's the he's the bad luck
recipient of those calls where you're just like, man, that

(01:13:38):
was two inches inside.

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
You know it is.

Speaker 5 (01:13:40):
When it rains, it pours, dude, you know how it goes,
and then all of a sudden you get one, and
all of a sudden, like the bills keep coming, the
bills keep coming, and then finally, all of a sudden,
there's some residual checks or something like, oh man, that
tax check came in for three thousand bucksh okay, get
you back on.

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
Same thing for him.

Speaker 5 (01:13:56):
You know, when you're struggling, it seems like every close
pitch is against you, hard hit ball is at somebody,
and you would just think the law of averages for
a good hitter says at some point he starts to
rake on a consistent but we've seen flashes of it,
so it's not like I'm giving him a hall pass
and he's above criticism. But I also know that the
stress that comes with knowing what they expected at that position.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
Even pros face.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
That they grind a little too hard sometimes. And I
don't even go be benched or anything. I wanted to
do what a veteran does, play your ass through it.
And he's been doing that so far, not to the
success you may want, but he's still showing up in posting,
which is a good thing, and he probably knows at
some point it'll turn around for him as long as
he stays the course.

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Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
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Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
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Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
That's another one.

Speaker 5 (01:16:29):
Oh, come on man, Timothy and Timothy Yeah, oh Timothy.
There's no doubt Noah is a no brainers. Matter of fact,
the name Noah. That guy's hadn't seen a tan a
day in his life.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
There there's that probably has a vest or two in
his in his closet, a.

Speaker 5 (01:16:50):
Sweater, vest, a golf or like like the vest it's
on button you wear over a T shirt, bokay and
you'll you'll even go like the Patagonia a little Patagonia
vest jacket, like the like the the fleece Patagonia best.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
Hey, no, where'd you go to school? Ole? Miss who knew? Shocker? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:17:09):
And Mitchell Mitchell is another one, not like I feel
like Mitch can still have like a Hey, you know what,
I the only Mitchell I remember Mitchell, well, not with
the last name like Kevin Mitchell the baseball player, but
a guy played for the Oakland A's and people in
old school baseball guy named Mitchell Page.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
They didn't call him Mitch Page.

Speaker 5 (01:17:29):
It was Mitchell Page, left handed hitter when played in
Oakland and probably a couple other places.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
But I remember that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
But I don't know many Mitchell's that aren't basic white guys.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 5 (01:17:41):
Yeah, Mitch, and Mitch is still kind of a there
get some of Mitch is still kind of a white guy,
basic white guy.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
See like on this one Anthony was listed here.

Speaker 5 (01:17:50):
No, no, no, no, no that I think that that
runs the gamut through a lot of different communities.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Anthony's as Tony's. Yeah, Tom an one, but that you
could antoine, I like to be a little more formal,
but yeah, I would say that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
Henry, Yeah, yeah, Henry Hank We although one of my
the best receivers I've played with the SCS Hank Long
Beach poly guy. So there there's some, but there are
Noah of that group. Noah sits in the cat bird seat.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
In that group.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
It's another one. I already said, Timothy. Uh, Brian, Yeah, yeah,
but Brian, there's a lot Brian goes, I mean Brian Mitchell.
I can go with a lot of Brian. Brian. Yeah,
I disagree. Michael Jordan's kids name is Jeffrey. A lot
of Jeffries they, I mean African American. It's not just

(01:18:42):
a basic, basic white guy name in my town, a
bunch of Jefferies.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
So now, but but then when you're when you're in
the Tanners, the Noah's there, you're in the Red Duke,
I got one for you. I mean, Jake's a great name,
But tell me, Jake's not just your basic white guy named.
One of my cousins kids names Hudson. Oh, hudds oh, yeah,
with the hard one of the quarterbacks I trained. His brother.

(01:19:11):
His name Hudson. Great kid. Yeah, and just like the
rest of us, are average white boy, you know what
I'm saying. But I like the name Taylor's. I look
at Taylor's now, Taylor's more of a girl name for
me that it's becoming that. Yeah, but if your name's Taylor,
I'm assuming. If I don't see you, then I'm talking
to a female.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
But I mean it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Used to be for my age group, your name was
Taylor growing up in you know, bell Air Wes.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
Jake too is Jacob now and Taylor biblical names and
Taylor drives a black Z seventy one, Tahoe Yeah probably yeah, yeah?
Who what what name? Drives a bird on the hood?
Trans am Eddie Eddie Eddie?

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
Okay, makes sense, makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:19:57):
I wonder what would be voted if we asked a
or if if you really did this, if you put
a poll question up, the greatest, the most blatant, you know,
the guy's white, average white guy named, what would win?
I'm gonna I'm gonna consider that, Preston, Preston. I think
Tanner's at the top of the list. And I know
a lot of Tanners, but I love them. But this

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isn't a derogatory It doesn't mean well, how dare you
call it? But let's face fact, some people name their
kids after We all have like either the legacy or
a name in our family or something. But it'd be
funny as a matter of fact. It's where you should
wear it as a is a compliment. But my point
is there are names you just autumn, we automatically affiliate

(01:20:40):
with that, and like like a Jacob or Tanner, they're
they're gonna be at the top of the list.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
In this Mookie Wilson's Son's name was Preston Preston Wilson.

Speaker 5 (01:20:49):
Well, how about the what what's the play for the
Colorado Rockies? Preston home run hitter, struck out all the time,
you know, and he's at the present. Preston Wilson didn't
play here too. Did you say Preston Wilson did? Says earlier? Yeah,
just like two seconds. Okay, So you did say press
when you said Preston, what was the second Preston you said?

(01:21:10):
Did you have another president? Okay'n oh? So that is Preston?

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
Yeah. No, you know what, I don't think I ever
put two and two together. Yea, Preston Wilson.

Speaker 5 (01:21:20):
That's why when you said, I, well, I know another
press president Wilson power hitter, I didn't know because Mookie
Wilson still I'm still bothered by the Mets, the Red Sox.
But he was a he was a solid, good play
and Preston Wilson had some power.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
His fault.

Speaker 5 (01:21:33):
It's not his fault that Buckner watch your mouth. Dude
with high top black cleats on the baseball player behind
the had like twenty seven hundred hits. Good guy, that's
three hundred hits away from her four under hits away
from a Hall of fame. That's that's why I'm glad
that Red Sox fans. No doubt that friggin Buckner watched
that slow Rolling High. It was a bummer watching Buckner
go through that. I did not know after all these

(01:21:54):
Maybe I did, but I didn't put two and two
together when you said Mookie Wilson's son and obviously Wilson.
But I didn't know you were talking about that Preston Wilson.
So yeah, there you go. I know that I didn't.
I had no idea that I guess I should have
thought of it. Wilson, Wilson and the time era that
the age wise, the difference, but I felt like Preston

(01:22:15):
Wilson was a little closer to his day, you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, but Mookie Wilson was my era
and Preston Wilson was too. But obviously whatever you're considering
your era twenty years apart.

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
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Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
Okay, let's do this.

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Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
First of three.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
They're in Denver, Jeremy Pania on the ile with a
fractured rib, and the Steelers and Dolphins pull off a
trade yesterday. Jalen Ramsey and Johnny Smith going to Pittsburgh,
Minka Fitzpatrick heading back to Miami. Twenty twenty seven draft
picks also involved in the deal. As you mentioned, it
got fourth of July coming up this week, and that

(01:23:47):
kind of you know, once you get north of that,
it's like, all right, hey, football season's coming up. I mean,
for all the things the Steelers are doing now, you're
starting to hear that the contract discussions with them and
t J. Watt going well, that teams are starting to
reach out and say, hey, would you be willing to
move that guy?

Speaker 5 (01:24:05):
What We're going to find out and he make He's
gonna make a lot of money. He's thirty now, I
believe right. I think he's thirty. Hell of a player
with Pittsburgh real quick because they're they're in the AFC,
so they're a threat obviously to not only the division,
but to the AFC. And it's always anybody that's in
the AFC's in the rock, I mean in the Texans way.

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
We'll go find out real quick about this team.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
John HW.

Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
Smith's an upgrade for them at tied end, and he's
with the guy who got his best football at him
Arthur Smith's offensive coordinator in Pittsburgh and when he was
the head coach, actually I say coordinator in Tennessee. John
who Smith was playing his best football before they moved him,
what to New England or wherever they moved him first.
And then obviously you know Arthur Smith went on to
Atlanta and now he was back and now in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (01:24:51):
So that's a good get.

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
The question is how physical they'd be at the running
back position. No Nase Harris, so maybe it's by committee
or finding somebody to be that guy, because Pittsburgh's always
been known as great upfront defense, knocks you around and
they're gonna run a football. Now, when Ben was there,
they changed it up, but they haven't had the same
offensive success consistently without him. But they've always been based

(01:25:15):
on physicality. But you look what they've done now, Darius
Slay now getting rid of Mika Fitzpatrick. And I know
this is gonna be hard to understand. If you say, Sean,
you want the best safety in the world or the
best corner in the world, I'm always taking the best corner.
That's why in the draft, when's the last time you
saw a pure safety drafted in the first five picks?

(01:25:38):
So and if you did, it's it's the outlier. Corner's
top ten regularly, right, Sauce Gardner Stanley. I mean it
happens all the time because it's a more I mean
it's not saying it's not a valuable position, but you're
always it's like you're always going to take the tackle
over the guard most of the time unless the guy
like Quenton Nelson shows up right or Bruce Matthews. But
point as you just are if they're equal. You're taking

(01:25:59):
the tackle before the guard. Yet most of the pocket
quarterbacks in the world, what you're inside sewn up as
supposed to you're outside. So it's a weird. It's a
slippery slope on what you go with. And now the
right tackle is just important his left tackle because well
not only that, but people are just moving the guy
over there to get away from your best pass protector
to put him on the second best pass protector. But

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you think about Pittsburgh, We're gonna find out if they're
veteran or if they're old. Rogers is forty one, Watts thirty.
They've got Jalen Ramsey's now thirty, Darius Slay's a KG
veteran in the league. You added John hus Smith who's
either close to it or posts. He might even be
post thirty. I don't know his exact age. But what
this is unlike the Steelers, they've spent this offseason going

(01:26:41):
and loading up like the Rockets in a different way.
I'm not saying they're there because they're the third best
team in the division right now, Dan, they are. Baltimore
and stant Cincinnati are better than Pittsburgh. Now you got
the Mike Tomlin effect. He doesn't have losing seasons. You're
going justin fields and Russwell, it doesn't matter who comes in.
They're making the Rudolph. It doesn't matter who the quarterback.

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They find a way to it. Either get in and
lose or lately or it's phenomenal franchise, or have a
winning record and get in and lose in the wild
card round or what have you. But it's amazing how
they continue to stave off bad, horrible seasons. But now
who's Rogers? Is it Rogers at thirty three or Rodgers's
forty one? Looks like he did the last two years injury,

(01:27:24):
but also a little sluggish in his game. It doesn't
move the same way, but he's accurate. Oh and let's
not forget they went out and got metcalf so but
got rid of pickings, so they have loaded up. Don't
sink for a second. This isn't got Aaron Rodgers. We
ain't got much time one year maybe all we get
with him, according to him, So we got to maximize
the opportunity and they're going all in.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:27:44):
Is it gonna end up being the Philadelphia Eagles? Years
ago when they bought that one of that dream team
and it went to hell in a handbasket. They weren't
They were awful. This isn't dream team. But if you're
a Pittsburgh Steelers fans fan after watching Baltimore and Cincinnati play,
there's a different hope there. Now you know your franchise wins,
but now you've added explosive players in a lot of positions.

(01:28:07):
And they're known for defense in Pittsburgh and now you've
added offensive help. I'm actually they're one of the teams.
I'm really curious to see where they go. You're gonna
find out are they old and it's just they bought.
They got guys at the wrong time in their career
or their veteran and those guys are going to get
them over the hump dealing with Joe Burrow and Lamar
Jackson in that division, you better be damn good offensively.

Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
We'll go find out.

Speaker 5 (01:28:31):
You'll know in a month into the season if this
is an old team or a veteran team, and that
they're better. But this is the best quarterback they've had
and it isn't close since Ben Roethlisberger.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
They're the second best team in that division because Cincinnati,
their defense last year what they showed you, and they're
going to find a way to screw it up a trade.

Speaker 5 (01:28:47):
But if they can find a way to, I hope
not for them. If their defense is just average, if
they're capable, and if Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals they
have bregman like starts when they first month of the
sea what is going on? And then at the end
they're the hottest team in the league and when they
get in they're dangerous. Last year, if they'd have got
in just one winner, the different in September, they're in

(01:29:09):
the playoffs. And I'm telling you now, the way they
were playing offensively, they could have scored from the parking
lot of mile away during a tailgate. They just can't
defend anybody. Hence why they've made changes. But I'm just
telling you that while Pittsburgh's defense and their overall is better,
you get Burrow in a game against Pittsburgh in December

(01:29:31):
when they're flowing. Give me Cincinnati. But the history and
the fight that said that Pittsburgh has and what that
I'm anxious to see who Pittsburgh is gonna because I
don't think any of us know.

Speaker 4 (01:29:41):
On paper, it looks really good.

Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
But are they old? Are they veteran? And there is
a major difference. We'll go find out quick.

Speaker 4 (01:29:49):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
And I mean it's see you mentioned Mike Tomlin. It
just seems like he, you know, kind of like you
were talking about earlier with Kevin Durant rolls out of
bed scores twenty five. With Tomlin, it's just you know,
starts to see and he's got ten wins.

Speaker 5 (01:30:01):
Think about what he's had to deal with. I'm talking
about some turds that he's had to coach.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Buddy of mine once brought it up, and it's still
to your point, maintains to this day.

Speaker 5 (01:30:11):
He made Antonio Brown seem sane for eight years. I
would love to play for Mike Tomlin. I really would have,
because players love him. But there is a line, dude,
well it'll be a player's coach. See, that's the right
players coach. Hey, I love you, can do it all,
but make no mistake who runs this show. And I
think those are the best players coaches. They're comfortable with you.

(01:30:32):
But dude, you cross the line, do something stupid, come
sit by me, or you'll be playing somewhere else. And
that's that organization. It's just been a winning organization with
great fans. Mike Tye're right, he falls out of Ben
wins nine games, But make no mistake, he's had to
deal with some crap that's come through there. Not I
mean just individuals and stuff, but just all the stuff
he lost Ben and some of the things he's had

(01:30:53):
to overcome with, and he's had some turds he's had
to coach Carl Listen, Pickens isn't Carl, but it's Dickens
isn't exactly the easiest guy in the world to coach, Right, Yeah, he.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
Got this grubbled and they finally said enough.

Speaker 5 (01:31:05):
Right, he's in what Dallas now, which kids them an upgrade,
But they've got some personalities they're going to have to
deal with. But Mike Tomlin and his ability to do
that and still find a way to stay afloat.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
And I want you to think about it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:15):
Look when Chuck Nole started, and look where we are now,
and think that they've had three head coaches, all of
them have won Super Bowls, and all of three coaches
in what sixty years?

Speaker 4 (01:31:27):
Fifty years?

Speaker 5 (01:31:28):
Isn't that what Since the seventies Chuck Nole was there,
they've had three three. That's called continuity in an organization.
Mike Tomlin and people are gonna say, well, gets the playoffs,
doesn't win, but he's won a super Bowl. But he
keeps winning keep and he's done it with quite frankly,
some makeshift times. Offensively, he just has post Ben. I'm

(01:31:49):
telling you, he's a first ballot Hall of Famer in
my mind. And Mike Tomlin is underrated if you get
to me the coaches right now, and it starts with
Andy Reid in my opinion, in the edit right now,
but the McVeigh, Mike Tomlin, you're I'm not going I'm
not going far down the list. If I get to four,
I've missed out. If Mike Tomlin's name's not mentioned, make

(01:32:11):
no mistake. If Mike Tomlin had had had give me,
I don't know, give me, give me a different if
he If Mike Tomlin was in Kansas City, they'd be
winning super Bowls.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
They would.

Speaker 5 (01:32:21):
I'm not saying he's Andy Reid, but there's not a
far drop off from Andy to Mike. And at times
there may be people that think Mike's overcome more than
Andy had could have. Patrick Mahomes. So yeah, Pittsburgh will
be relevant. Trust me. The question is are they older
veteran and we'll go find out real quick.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
And you know we're just that much closer to football season,
and you even mentioned it. Fourth July gets us even
closer to it. Brad, see you right there. Get you involved.
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety is
the number two. Get in a couple of rockets notes.
Also one more astros note that I've been holding on
to get those to you. Bend Bow's gonna join us
in about fifteen minutes here to talk about the Rockets moves.

(01:32:59):
All of that's still here on the Sean Salisbury Show, going.

Speaker 12 (01:33:05):
Non stop with former QB Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 5 (01:33:12):
Or people know, if somebody out there may say, oh,
it's easy to tell the difference. It's like me and
pepsi and coke. It's the easiest taste test in the world.
And for some the David Lee Roth Eddie Van Halen
thing may they may say, oh yeah, that's no no doubt.

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
But I've heard David Lee Roth.

Speaker 5 (01:33:29):
You know what he's doing when you hear him on
like chorus at times has hit those notes like it's
got a hint to that. But I guess with both
of them. The part of the thing is is it
when they can actually sound like each other at times,
but they're pretty distinct. So but that one, I'm with you,
I would have I I would have said, David Lee Roth,
a good call by you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
Pretty good athlete Eddie van Halen too. Just just just
look up a photo that's out there of van Halen jumping.

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
You see he has some pops, he's got some hops.

Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
Yeah, so he had he had that the combine over
David Lee Roth do yeah, yeah, the vert went to
him and he was been married to Valerie Burtnelly for
a long time. I saved you know, I mean, pulled
by him and pulled by her. Good couple. Right, it's
gonna say, is that he still with us? Eddy man
Halen is still alive? Yeah, I gotta be right. Yeah,

(01:34:19):
I don't think her. I think he's still alive current day.
There's some respect on his name. I don't think he's
passed away. I good gracious, Please tell me I didn't
miss that twenty twenty he passed away October. Oh okay, well
there you go. I'll tell you what anything that happened
in the COVID year, we all get a hall pass. Yeah,
because I wouldn't even be able to tell you what

(01:34:40):
days I was awake during COVID. Honestly, it felt like
I was living in a sci fi movie. So passing
twenty twenty, huh, that's too bad, man. I think we
probably now when you think about it, think about when
they were talking about and I may even heard an
interview with Valerie Burtnelly after that, because she does all
these cooking shows and stuff. Now she got her own
cooking show.

Speaker 4 (01:34:59):
But yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:35:00):
I wouldn't would not have been able to win that
sports quiz head. But when it comes to dude, what's that?

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (01:35:06):
Guys, we've had two callers, Ryan and Brian. They said
that it's Sammy Hagar.

Speaker 4 (01:35:11):
What did we say for eighty or? Yeah, Van, that's right,
that's right. Who are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
Yeah, Eddie, Eddie van Halen or I said Eddie van
Halen or David Lee Roth, I got I got my
I got my eighties singers confused?

Speaker 4 (01:35:25):
Sorry, so what happened? Would you?

Speaker 5 (01:35:27):
Would you do instead of Sammy Hagar was the other one?

Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:35:31):
Yeah, they yeah? I think he.

Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
Over who because it's van Halen or it's right, And
David Lee Roth was the lead singer for now That
Now that you've got me confused, and that was my era.

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
See, David Lee Roth was the lead singer of uh
well no, I mean no, he was. He was van
Halen too.

Speaker 5 (01:35:53):
But I think that that we're thinking of No, I
was actually thinking of David Lee Roth.

Speaker 4 (01:35:58):
Well, that's exactly what I was thinking of.

Speaker 5 (01:35:59):
So but I, like I said, when it comes to
deaths of somebody, dude, if you ask me when George
Carlin died, I'll say, for like four years ago, and
it's been like twenty Yeah, I can tell you when recent.
But if you asked me, hey, Sean, when did that
guy die, it got say, oh, like three years ago,
so it was like twenty five years ago. I was
gonna say, don't tell me. David Lee Roth didn't. He
was van Halen guy.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
So on a show that I used to work on,
we used to play a semi weekly game where you
would win one of the hosts dinner because he had
a sponsorship with the place YEP. And one of the
questions that could be part of the you know, seven
questions in sixty seconds was dead or alive.

Speaker 5 (01:36:35):
Okay, but that was still van Halen, not Hagar's what
you're telling him. Yeah, yeah, that was van Halen.

Speaker 4 (01:36:40):
Yeah. So David lee Roth was a member of van Halen.

Speaker 5 (01:36:44):
Yeah correct, I thought he was, unless I've lost my mind.

Speaker 4 (01:36:48):
Yeah, lead vocalist for van Halen for three stints. There
you go.

Speaker 5 (01:36:52):
So so we had really the trifecta. So the battle though,
is Hagar versus van Halen was what the caller was
talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
I would say that probably you know, Sammy, you know,
gets gets as much of a connection as is he.

Speaker 4 (01:37:05):
The cobble wobble ye dude, Okay, the bar and the
tea can't drive fifty five?

Speaker 5 (01:37:10):
That now, See it's so weird because had you just said, hey,
who sings I can't drive fifty five?

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
What would you say, Sammy Hagel exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:37:17):
When you throw them into the van Halen, it's a
it's a plethora. But there's some people that got some
great rock backgrounds that would know, Like I said, with
the death of van Halen, with Eddie van Annen twenty
twenty comes anything that happened in twenty twenty, I reserved
the right say I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
He were Steve fixing outlaw Dave when you need him
there you go rock one on one KL.

Speaker 5 (01:37:35):
So what were they arguing about that? But what was
the call that we were leaving a Throaday?

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
Their point was is they thought that we were we
were confusing David Lee Roth for Hagar.

Speaker 5 (01:37:44):
I wasn't, but I was wrong on whose voice that
was when it was that Van Halen on that song.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
They basically said, Sean, you didn't put enough respect on
Sammy Hagar. That's the way I heard Triple just say it. Well,
I would say that you brought the subject up. So
I'm going to say that you led us astray. So
it would me, Yeah, you led us astray. You are
fake news. I'm the problem here.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
It's me. I'm the one. I'm the Taylor Swift anti hero.

Speaker 5 (01:38:09):
Yeah, let it go now, you got to send now
if you now, Triple he doesn't know David Lee Roth
and Sammy Hagar and Eddie Van Halen.

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
From it's a learning experience for us all.

Speaker 5 (01:38:19):
So basically you did it on purpose to see how
we could be brought back to the room. He took
us on a road down a dark place because there's
some out there that would be offended that you confused
Hagar and David Lee Roth. Well, and you know what,
And I jumped right on and piled on with you, like, yeah,
that guy, Oh that's right, that Hagar guy was pretty
good too.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
Yeah, one of my one of my favorite responses ever,
don't you find that offensive? And the person they asked
the question to said, yeah, oh well, oh well, I
know my weaknesses.

Speaker 5 (01:38:47):
And apparently when it comes to the trifecta, whose voice
sounds any? But if you played three different cuts on
a chorus in a van Halen cut, would there be
any part of it? You would be able to say,
I'm not sure the difference between them, the three right?

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:39:04):
Right? For me, I wouldn't be able to I'm not
musically inclined enough to know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:39:08):
Musically inclined, but not that musically inclined. I can say, oh, yeah,
that hint of Eddie van Halen, But that's Sam dude.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
Anytime sing along with songs on this show, you've heard
me numerous times get the lyrics wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:39:19):
So movie a movie quote, I am not, dude, I
want no part of it. Oh, I can deliver an
entire dialogue for you. Yeah, and you have yeah, no,
no argument here. Impersonations and movie quotes you are You're
right at the top of the list, brother, Yeah, I
mean movie quotes is back and watch your expertise flow.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
Movie quotes the primary strength. I would say that, you know,
impersonation is the secondary pitch. Sometimes it hits and sometimes
it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (01:39:44):
The real question is you got one concert of Van
Halen to see and it's in your favorite venue. Who's
the front man? Is he the origin for you? But
what do you think everybody feels that way? You think
it'd be dominated? Yes, I think you're gonna get some
argument there. I mean, I'm with you, but I think
that the poll would be closer than you think. There'd

(01:40:05):
be three dudes getting votes. Just put it that way,
there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
Maybe maybe maybe we could even throw that out there
if people want it. But anyway, let's get into the
rockets next because they have been busy and then some
when it comes to the start of free agency. Our
good buddy Ben Dubo's from the Logger Line podcast going
to join us right here.

Speaker 4 (01:40:23):
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
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is beIN Dubo's been appreciate the time this morning, let's

(01:40:48):
just start. I mean, you know, we heard the rumors
yesterday that Dori and Finney Smith was a possibility. But
when you heard the news about Clint Capella, what immediately
came the mind for you?

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
Definitely shocking. The first thing I wondered about was is
there something big cooking? Like everybody? I sort of wondered, hey,
and they're about to flip Alprinchraan Goon and some guys
for Giannis, because now you have two veteran centers and
Steven Adams and Clint Capella that could conceivably fill those minutes.
But the more I thought about it, and the more
I did some digging, it dawns on me that hey,

(01:41:22):
this is such a friendly contract. Clint Capella is getting
paid less than Jaque Landil was last year, and he's
a far better player, So there is a role there.
We saw Landal play a decent bit last year, because
you know, Steven Adams is now in his thirties, he
needs to be load managed, and unlike Jack Landale, Clint
Capella is a lot threat. He's an above the rim guy,

(01:41:43):
so he provides a different type of player. Now down
the road, he could be tradable salary, or perhaps having
Clint makes it to where if Jannis comes available later
and you think you need to do something like that,
then I guess the optionality that you can backfill the
center minutes. I'm sure that's part of it. But the
more I think about it, and the more I did

(01:42:03):
some digging, I think, honestly, it just comes down to
the fact that, look, jacqu Landale had a role last season,
but Clint Capella's an upgrade and he's going to get
paid less money, So why wouldn't you do it. It's
an awkward bit because he's definitely overqualified to be a
third string center, But if you can get a better
player making less money, why wouldn't you do it? That's

(01:42:23):
ultimately where I sort of landed on this.

Speaker 5 (01:42:25):
Absolutely, Now, Ben, is there a big deal still ahead?
Is there a chance that Giannis is possibly in play,
or that shn Good or someone like that gets moved
or are they done.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
I think for now they're probably done, I could see.
So one thing to keep in mind as you go
into the season, these guys that they've signed in the
off season, most notably Capella and Dorey Anthony Smith will
become tradable. I think December fifteenth is the date. And
so these guys that are on friendly contracts or any

(01:42:58):
one years that they sign, you can potentially aggregate salaries
during the year, and that might be more realistic anyway,
both the Rockets and you know, a team such as
Milwaukee might want to, you know, give it a little
bit of a trial run, and then if it's not
working out, you can look for a big deal during
the season. I think it's difficult to pull off now,
both in terms of do the Rockets have enough salaries

(01:43:21):
and also just because with bringing in Kevin Durant and
the guys that they've signed. Even if you could theoretically
package like three or four players for one and bring
in a Giannis or Lebron or someone like that, they're
now you know, we're getting in the weeds here with
the salary cap. But they're basically hard capped at the
first apron, that's what it's called, and you would then

(01:43:41):
have to fill those roster spots. So even if you
do a four for one, you still have to eventually
sign players for those roster spots, right, and so it
would be very difficult to do that for the full season.
You might could do it midway through and you'll have
more options then, But for now, I think they're probably done,
and this is a team that I think, by and
large they'll take the training gap.

Speaker 5 (01:43:59):
I've been this. Vegas loves what they've done. Obviously we've
all seen and there is an excitement, the buzz around it,
and you're dialed into this team. Where's the weakness now,
at least on paper, where's the weakness when you look
at them heading into this season?

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
I think it's more so people will question if they
have enough guards because they've traded Jalen Green, who is
the primary backcourt creator in the Kevin Durant deal, and
most people look at KD as a forward. Now what
I'll tell you sean internally inside the building, they view

(01:44:35):
Kevin Durant as a shooting guard. So I don't think
I can I.

Speaker 5 (01:44:39):
Had him as the two I had him playing the
two did right? Is that exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:44:42):
That's where I had him exactly Now. Defensively, I think
he'll probably guard forwards because he'll be thirty seven and
Aman Thompson is quick enough that even if he's technically forward,
he can guard guards on the other end. But I
think people will look at them and say, hey, they
don't really have a traditional guard in terms of, you know,

(01:45:02):
a super athletic guy that can pressure the rim, and
so how's that kind of work against a really good
defense like Oklahoma City, who's obviously their primary competition. But
I think what they'll tell you, Number one, with Kevin Durant,
you might can shoot your way out of it. And secondly,
I think what ties all of these signings together. They
want to be a bigger team. That's something I've heard

(01:45:25):
all off season when I talked to people inside the
building there is that when you look at their data
last year, they were at their best when it was
just one let's say, point guard, either Fred bent Leet
or Jalen Green, not both, just one of those guys,
and then you had three wings and a center. And
so the idea, and this plays into emy Udoka's coaching
style as well with how he wants to be tough physical. Basically,

(01:45:49):
the more size the better, And so guys like Dorian
Phineysmith and Clint Capella they can set screen, they can
crash the glass. In Finnie Smith's case, you can shoot
and face the four. They just want more long rangy
bodies that can you know, defend in space, can jump
the passing lanes, can be physical. And I think the
way they're looking at this Sean is that they don't

(01:46:11):
necessarily need a traditional shooting guard to sort of attack
the rim. They want to do it with more size
and shooting, and they think that they have enough long
rangey physical guys that they can generate often. You know,
there was this talk in the playoffs about the double big,
and to all brench and Good and stevens Adam's credit,
it did work well, but it wasn't just the two

(01:46:33):
of them. It was more that they were big in general.
They often played Jabari Smith at six to eleven at
the three. So I think what they're trying to do,
you know, philosophically, I understand the question. So I think
the way they look at it is that if you
have the shooting of Kevin Durant, and you have all
these long guys and an athletic freak like a Men
Thompson that even if it doesn't look traditionally like the

(01:46:54):
way a modern NBA offense runs, that they can get
the production that they need simply because they're that damn
big and they can just crash the glass and do
all the little things that we know Emo Udoka wants
his team to do again.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
He's part of Rockets Wire as part of USA Today.
Also too, you can hear him as part of the
logger Line podcast, which is available right here on the
iHeartRadio app. He's been to bos Ben. I mean you
mentioned you know the possibility of the larger move that's
out there, because I mean, I'm in that camp that
wonders if these moves are being made to set up

(01:47:26):
the massive move to go get Yanna Santa Compo. But
where they sit salary cap wise, do you see any
other small moves maybe that need to be made in
order for anything else to be thought about?

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
I am watching what's going to happen with Cam Whitmore,
and it may not be to bring in an immediate upgrade.
It could be simply that hey, Cam's going into year
three and whether he's here or someone somewhere else for
his development to maximize this contract, he needs to play.
And you've already got a clear top nine between the starters,
and then the poor top guys off the bench ll

(01:48:01):
be tari Ethan, Steven Adams, Toreann Phinnys Smith and Ree Shepherd.
So I am watching Cam. Maybe they keep Cam because
they think he can sort of fit into that mold
I was just describing he six but seventy the super athlete.
We know he's very physical. So maybe they keep him
and try to play a ten man rotation, or maybe
they try and find another home for him. I think

(01:48:23):
that's something that they're going to try and resolve in
the next few days. I will say that if you
keep it, you don't just park him at the end
of your bench the way they did for a lot
of last year going into year three. If you keep him,
you need to have a plan to actually play him,
and so I think that's a discussion that they're going
to have. But I really think the more I look
at these contracts, which that's something that under Rafelstone for years,

(01:48:45):
they have been very disciplined in the contracts that they
give out. I really think they're largely going to go
to camp as is. Maybe you move Cam whitmore, maybe
there's a move around the Margins to add one more
shooter to the backcourt. They are a little bit thin there,
But I don't think it's going to be anything drafted.
What I think they want is the flexibility, as you said,

(01:49:05):
to make a move later. And at this point, you know,
the draft is gone. Free agency, the first wave is
come and went, So it's not impossible for another big
name to hit the market this offseason. But I think
it's a lot less likely than it was, you know,
a month or two ago. So I think by and
large the plan is get to the season as is,

(01:49:26):
to see how it goes, and then if you get
to December, you get to January and things aren't progressing
as you would like, then they do have the option
to pursue some of those bigger moves later.

Speaker 5 (01:49:35):
All right, Ben, let me get some closure on this
Jalen Green thing. Now I contend, and maybe I'm wrong
that had it been reversed against Golden State, let's say
you play six good games and as one, you know,
crap out right, where a year an E's downs leg
doesn't play well. Would they have would this move have
been made? When did they decide that it was time
to move on from Jalen Green.

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
I don't think it was just because the playoffs, but
it certainly it certainly didn't help. I think they wanted
to give The way I looked at this, so if
you can get Kevin Durant at a low price point,
which they did, really the only young assets they gave
up were the number ten pick in the draft and

(01:50:20):
Jalen Green, Right, that's pretty low from an assets standpoint,
and he was an All Star last year and he's
still you know, his game should age well as you'd
have two or three great years still left. And so
especially with Jalen now on a more expensive contract which
they signed him to prior to last season. The only
way that I think in the long run you'd be,

(01:50:44):
you know, regretting trading Jalen Green, is if he turned
into like a legit all NBA guy, like top ten,
top fifteen. And I think we've seen enough now after
four years, and you have gotten to see what happens
in the playoffs, it's fair to say that's unlikely. Like,
I don't think you should conclude that Jalen Green is
a terrible basketball player or anything like that. No, that's
way too reactionary. But I will say that they've given

(01:51:07):
him enough of a runway to where we can safely
say he's probably not going to be a legit star.
And if he's not a star, at the money he's making,
and with so many of these young guys do for
new deals in the coming years, you know one other
factor behind them being so aggressive this offseason. They really
believe in Amn Thompson and a men Thompson has got

(01:51:30):
two more years on his rookie scale deal. So Sean
is kind of like in football when you have a
star quarterback on that first contract and you really want
to load up while he's cheap. That's the window for
the Rockets right now. With a men Thompson, they think
they have a star level player who has two more
years very cheap. So if Jalen's not going to be
worth his contract in that window and you can get

(01:51:50):
a Kevin Durant, I think they had to do it.
And you know that's no disrespect to Jalen. I think
he can still be a good player in the NBA.
But the odds of him being a star are I
think at this point those have dropped significantly. And if
he's not going to be a star, I don't think
you're gonna regret moving on from him, especially if he's
really the only piece that goes out for Kevin and Ben.

Speaker 5 (01:52:10):
That's such a great point because well, c J. Stroud
is what you're talking about about him, Men Thompson. Right now,
you know a rookie salary who's going to make sixty
million bucks a year when it happens to get it
while the getting's good. In truth and Dan and Ben
both even if Jalen Green turned out to be that guy,
you know Ben that he's a top fifteen player. If
the Rockets win a World Series under this window with
Kevin Durant, it won't matter what he does, it will

(01:52:33):
have been worth it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:34):
At least that's the way I feel. Because the Rings.

Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
They win a world that would be pretty amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:52:39):
Did I say World Series? I met the World Champion?
Yeah that too. They do, that'll be double. But if
they do, you're going on, I was gonna let you go.

Speaker 5 (01:52:46):
Hell And if they and if the Astros win an
NBA Championship, they'll be great to.

Speaker 1 (01:52:52):
Be.

Speaker 5 (01:52:52):
It'll be worth it no matter what he does, if
they put a ring on their finger. Ben, that's just
the bottom line, it'll.

Speaker 10 (01:52:57):
Be worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
Absolutely, Yep, for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:53:00):
You can find him part of the Logger Line podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
Listen to it right here on the iHeartRadio app and
also to part of the USA Today with the Rockets Wire.
He's been to Bo's Ben, appreciate your time this morning. No,
it's been pretty busy, but appreciate you spending a few
minutes with us.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
Great stuff, Ben, Thanks man, Thanks for having me. Guys,
I appreciate it. So yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:53:18):
I mean just it would be quite amazing if they
pulled off a world series.

Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
That would be that really would be. Boy, I'll tell
you what a men Thompson. He's a front line starter,
that guy. He shoves there. He's a special skill set
and he's gonna get paid. Puts together good at bat
Oh yes, yes, he does really good around the room,
very good.

Speaker 4 (01:53:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:53:38):
Yeah, and then that's good stuff by been great explanation
of tool player, right, and I think he's spot on
four and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:53:44):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 5 (01:53:45):
I think he's spot on about Jayden Green superstar. No,
can he be a star offensively and score a lot,
sure for sure. But winning a ring well will will
won't matter what he does the rest of his career for.

Speaker 3 (01:53:56):
Sure, Brad Biscuit. See you guys want to get in
on this conversation. Lets you guys do it. Don't forget
Chris Gordy for one of his two weekly visits with
us courtesy at Carbock Brewing. All of that's still to
come here. It is a Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 13 (01:54:12):
Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue, and you saw the
most I think all of the other original members, like
Jonathan Kane still with it, who randomly Clinton was told
me a story once that he was sitting in Diamond
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Kane and somebody goes, yeah, it's him, and they like.

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
He went over and I like it and introduced himself.
You know, he's versatile that Jonathan Kane can play, can play,
can play the keys, yep, can then also pick up
a guitar and start playing.

Speaker 4 (01:54:41):
Hence the name musician. Uh huh. They can play more
than one instrument. Yeah, a lot of it. That's not me,
not me.

Speaker 5 (01:54:47):
Those guys who can grab any him, hit the keyboards,
go over there and grab a guitar, pop on the drums.
I mean a little bit of everything, man, Which is
I think that's such an underrated trait. You know, Sam
to play the guitar and then all of a sudden
say hey on this and I'm gonna pop on the drums.
Oh you know what, let me grab the keyboards on
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(01:55:08):
it feels like it takes forever, right, and then bam,
dan to be good at it. And then you got
another one and you think, how do they find time of.

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The day to do all right?

Speaker 5 (01:55:15):
And yeah, eight different instruments. Oh they grab the sacks.
I can play that too, It's like crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:55:21):
Well, and then the problem is, like especially with guitar,
is then you have people that you know who think
they can play it and then you're like.

Speaker 5 (01:55:28):
No, yeah, and they're a little in their own little world,
sit around a fireplace with their buddies or you know,
out at the fire with the.

Speaker 4 (01:55:33):
Playing a couple of chords does not make you a guitarist. Well,
let them enjoy their moment. Dan, Yeah, it doesn't, it's
just when it becomes so there was there.

Speaker 3 (01:55:43):
There was a buddy in high school who, if there
happened to be a guitar at a party, would pick
it up, and then one of our other buddies would
roll his eyes every single time because it's just like, man,
you don't know how to play guitar, and it's painfully obvious.

Speaker 4 (01:55:55):
There you go that those people can play a bunch
of instruments.

Speaker 3 (01:55:58):
Huh what a skill set? Yeah, very much. But almost
take that over. Actually, no, I take the better golf game. Yeah,
golf game.

Speaker 5 (01:56:07):
You know how obsessed and addicted I am to golf.
If you said Sean PJ Tour front man with a voice,
it's well like Furgain jesus.

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
I'm not sure what. Yeah, I'm not sure what i'd.

Speaker 5 (01:56:21):
Take, although, dude, it's hard you threw that out there
thinking that I wouldn't know that kind of Yeah, good good,
nice by you.

Speaker 4 (01:56:27):
Nice.

Speaker 5 (01:56:28):
I'm not sure which one I speak steps fluent apparently. Yeah,
I'm not sure which one i'd take. That's I'm gonna think.

Speaker 4 (01:56:36):
About that one.

Speaker 5 (01:56:37):
So the golf game, the golf game probably probably oh yeah, no,
it's it's without a doubt, and twice on Sundays, Astro's
getting ready to fire up a series with the Rockies
in Colorado.

Speaker 4 (01:56:48):
They'll get that going tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:56:50):
Rockets busy on the free agent front and they picked
up Dori and Finney Smith on a four year deal.
Also Clint Capella bringing him back on a three year deal.
We just talked with Bindubos of the Logger Line podcast
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Speaker 3 (01:59:27):
Who are back in action tonight against the Rockies out
in Colorado. Jeremy Pania on the io with a fractured
rib and the Rockets wasting no time in free agency.
Four year deal Dorian Finney Smith and three year deal
four Clint Capella, all of that much more to get
into with you, Gordy, But you were gone over the weekend.

(01:59:49):
You were over at the Manning Passing Academy. Now, me
and Sean had this as a topic yesterday. I don't
know if you heard it, but of the videos that
will come out from things like the NPA and people
immediately start freaking out, and the one that I'm referencing
the most right now is the ty Simpson throw that
he had that, Everybody's like, oh my gosh, man, you know,
look at that arm. He's gonna be amazing for Alabama.

(02:00:11):
It's like he's throwing in shorts and he's never going
to make that throw. Yeah, everybody wins on air, right,
I mean just about it's.

Speaker 4 (02:00:20):
Uh, they do. Tell them, Sean, tell them the reason.

Speaker 10 (02:00:23):
Why you can't put too much into the combine in
Indie when you're watchings, we put so much stock into that.

Speaker 5 (02:00:29):
It's like when we start playing in shorts and a
T shirt, then I'll give them all the credit they
need for making a forty fifty yard throw down the
right sideline.

Speaker 10 (02:00:36):
Yeah, hey, did we just make flag football is going
to be in the Olympics. Great for that, But in
tackle football, yeah, I need to know what you look
like when you've got three hundred pounds be sparing down
on you and those guys down the field, those windows
are smaller and smaller and smaller.

Speaker 5 (02:00:52):
Well, tell me what it was like there as far
as those guys you saw work and just the whole
overall experience at the man in camp and what they're
doing for these kids.

Speaker 10 (02:01:00):
Yeah, well, just to let you guys know. I mean,
this thing's gotten bigger and bigger over the years. It
is now I want to say. They said it was
about fourteen hundred kids there this year, with forty eight
or forty nine camp counselors, and that includes some of
the top quarterbacks in college football and you know, old players,
old coaches. It was a guy I was standing next

(02:01:22):
to one of the fields and I was like, who
is this guy? I don't know who he is. And
I hear him introduce himself to the kids and he goes,
how you guys doing. I'm the dbast coach for Washington
the Huskies. I'm like, that's just so's people you've never
heard of are just out there that want to come
help and volunteer at the Mannings. But the biggest stat
I heard Sean Peyton Manning brought this up at the
start of things last year. On opening day of the NFL,

(02:01:44):
twenty five of the thirty two starting NFL quarterbacks had
previously been camp counselors at the Manning Passing Academy. So
that just tells you the level of athlete, the level
of start quarterbacks that are coming to this thing.

Speaker 5 (02:01:56):
Yeah, it's so bad that they're all about quality. And
I'm telling you, having coached at that camp, even the coach,
you better show up on time.

Speaker 4 (02:02:03):
You have fun, but you better do it right.

Speaker 5 (02:02:05):
And when you're coaching, they expect you to coach because
they do, you know what I'm saying. They walk around
and make sure it's done. With that in mind, has
there ever been a player coming into college that's had more.

Speaker 4 (02:02:21):
Grooming than Arch Manning? I don't think so.

Speaker 10 (02:02:26):
I mean he he is. Everything in his life has
prepared him for this moment. I mean it's that. That's
why people if you get all if you're not a
Texas fan, and you get exasperated at why is arch
Manning number one on this list? Why is he getting
all this love? If his name was Archie Davis, he
wouldn't be getting this kind of attention. Yeah, no doubt.
The Manning name brings a lot of attention with it.

(02:02:48):
But the kid is just he's mature beyond his years.
I always I describe it as he gets it. Like
when you talk to him, he goes, oh, this kid
gets it. He's good head on his shoulders. But it
speaks to the Manning family. I mean Archie raised Peyton
and Eli Cooper that way, and Cooper's raising his kids
that way. I'm sure years from now we'll see Peyton
and Eli's kids will be the same way. So, yeah,

(02:03:10):
he's the kid. Is is the real deal?

Speaker 5 (02:03:12):
Now?

Speaker 1 (02:03:13):
You know?

Speaker 10 (02:03:13):
Is he gonna lead Texas to an undefeated season this
year in national championship? I don't know, but just when
you talk to him, you get the sense. I mean,
this kid has got a great head on his shoulders
and he's he's talented. I mean, it's not his fault.
The two games he started last year when Quinn you
Weers went down was against Louisiana Monroe and Mississippi State.
But he looked great in both of them. I mean
he passed the spell tests. You know, the tough test

(02:03:36):
comes in week one. They got to go on the
road at Ohio State in just under what two months? Yeah,
when the first week of college football starts. So we're
gonna find out that if he's ready to go. But yeah,
I mean, the kid's got an arm. He looks even
more athletic and in shape coming into this season. So
sky's a limit for Arch.

Speaker 3 (02:03:56):
And let's get into a little bit of astros now,
because obviously the Jeremy Paine. News comes out yesterday, and
as soon as you hear it, you, you know, probably
have the same response that most people do. How that sucks.
Twelve games left until the All Star break. What's your
level of concern with them being out? Well, I just
I keep saying this, how many more injuries can this
team overcome? It's it's amazing what they've been able to

(02:04:18):
do with all the injuries and everything that they've had.
But I mean, now you're taking their best bat out
of the lineup for I don't know that I've seen
anything from two to four weeks, six to eight weeks,
so there's no timeline on a rib injury on when
he's gonna for sure be back.

Speaker 10 (02:04:35):
But it doesn't help. I mean, it certainly hurts taking
their best bat out of the lineup. But the best,
you know, the only thing you could hope for is
what's kind of happened last couple of weeks is somebody
new steps up every night. I mean, yeah, what was
that one nothing game you won last week? Cooper Humble
hit the home run? Yeah, I mean he was the
unsuspecting hero that night. So you're gonna need those kind

(02:04:55):
of games where eastac Paratus is the hero one night
and Al two vays the hero like he was on Sunday.
Like I think, it's just other guys are just gonna
have to step up, step up a fellows holes. But
make no mistake about it, he is your best bet.
He is your MVP of this team so far this year,
and you're taking him out of the lineup for a
month to two months.

Speaker 5 (02:05:16):
Are we nuts to think that they can again find
somebody to do this? I mean they can, man make
I mean, I guess if you keep pitching and giving
up no runs or one run or two runs, you're
going to be in all of them. And that gives
you a chance. But that even adds more pressure to
that staff to have to even be any better because
I feel like you're losing a run of game with him.

Speaker 1 (02:05:35):
I just do.

Speaker 5 (02:05:36):
I don't know what the metrics say, but it feels
like it to me because I said he's the heartbeat
of the.

Speaker 4 (02:05:40):
Team this year.

Speaker 10 (02:05:41):
Well, what's amazing is go look at their game lots
from the last two to three weeks, and yeah, they've
had a few games where the offense is bubbled up,
but many of these wins, guys two to one too,
nothing to nothing, one nothing, you know, three to two.
I mean these are all low scoring games, and that
tells you right now there it's the pitching that is
getting this done for you. The starting pitching has been phenomenal,

(02:06:04):
obviously led by Hunter Brandon from ber Valdez, but these
other guys have been stepping up from Brandon Walter to
Colton Gordon and on down. We'll see hopefully McCullers can
get back on track next start. But the bullpen has
been absolute nails as well. I mean, everybody out's bullpen
has been awesome. It's so funny. Steven Oker gives up
a run and we're going, we're freaking out, going, what's
wrong with this guy. It's like, hey, that's what normal

(02:06:27):
bullpens do. They are not on every night, but this
bullpen rivals out of the twenty twenty two World Series
bullpen in that they are absolute nails. When you hand
the ball to Bryan at Bray, you he's getting it done.
When you hand the ball to Josh Hater, he is
getting it done. And so to answer your question, Sean,
that's the way they kind of overcome this is doing

(02:06:47):
what they've been doing, getting dominant enough pitching that you
can win a to nothing game, that you can win
a three to two game. And that's how you survive
without Jeremy Paynea.

Speaker 3 (02:06:56):
For now again, Chris Gordy joins us every Tuesday Thursday
here on Sean Salisbury Show Curtsy at Carbach Brewing. Two
parter here, how much more of an emphasis is on
Christian Walker and Jiner Diaz without paying a round? And
the other one is Dana left the door open for
a possibility of a yord On return for the Dodgers series.
Do you think that could be even more of a

(02:07:17):
possibility now with yesterday's news.

Speaker 10 (02:07:19):
I'll believe anything regarding your on the day I see
him in the lineup, I mean that's that's I'm not
gonna put any added pressure or whatever on Oh maybe
he's back this weekend. I just think you wait, and
when he's back, he's back. Look, if the hand's not
fully healed now by now, just wait wait, I mean,

(02:07:39):
what's wait? Two more weeks? We got the All Star
break coming up, give him plenty more time to make
sure he's one hundred percent healed. So I would lean
towards just come coming out of the All Star Break.

Speaker 4 (02:07:49):
Bringing a Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:07:50):
My thought about that is if you have to ask,
if you think he's ready, you sit him. You can wait,
if you know, play him. I mean, if you're one
hundred percent sure and he's good to go. Hell would
be nice to have him lineup in Los Angeles, would
be great.

Speaker 10 (02:08:01):
But and you can't do the thing sewn, oh, because
Painia is out, let's rush it.

Speaker 1 (02:08:06):
No.

Speaker 4 (02:08:06):
In fact, you've got to fight against that even more so.
And we can we can do this.

Speaker 10 (02:08:11):
We can do this without those guys. No reason to
rushing back.

Speaker 5 (02:08:14):
Right, and if we come the thing about it is
you talk about spoiled. If they come out of this
and like let's say he's out for a month and
they're in the month of July. There, I don't know
how many games they have in July. Let's say twenty
five whatever and there, and they're fifteen and ten or
they're eighteen and whatever, it is, eighteen and seven, whatever
it is right without him meaning Pania and you just

(02:08:36):
got a little bit of.

Speaker 4 (02:08:37):
Yourd on back in. I don't know what we're going
to say.

Speaker 5 (02:08:40):
I think, Gordy, this will end up being if if
they go and get into the playoffs, which they're going to.
But they make a good run or get to the
World Series. How is there a more impressive, more impressive
job in the last decade here with the Astros than
what they will have done front office and managing wise
and performance wise, considering all the changes in and you
don't have eight stars on your team they're going to

(02:09:02):
the All Star Game.

Speaker 10 (02:09:03):
Yeah, No, I think a lot of credico is all around.
I think a lot of it with the development staff,
the scouts, the people that find, hey, Brandon Walter is available,
let's go get that guy, Colton Gordon coming up through
the system. All these different guys that have made an
impact for you. Credit all around, Dana Brown, even onto
Joe spot it. Do you realize how many calls we

(02:09:23):
used to get on a weekly basis Sean on what's
Dusty Baker doing?

Speaker 4 (02:09:27):
What's aj Hinch thinking? What a stupid move?

Speaker 10 (02:09:30):
How many Joe Aspotta calls have we had on the
regular this season of Oh I didn't like that call?

Speaker 4 (02:09:36):
Probably, you know on this show this year. I don't
think we've had.

Speaker 10 (02:09:39):
Less than ten. Yeah, I mean so that just goes
to show what a good job he's doing. And I
understand We were all skeptical out of the gates last
year where that team started so slow, and we were
questioning is it the manager's fault or whatever. Look, when
everybody's performing and doing what they're doing right now and
they're winning games, nobody's looking the mager blaming him for anything.

Speaker 3 (02:10:00):
Real quick here, before we get you out of here, Rockets.
We see the new moves made yesterday, mention him there
in the headlines. But at least from what I saw
from you on Twitter, you seem to believe that there's
something else down down the pike.

Speaker 1 (02:10:12):
Well that's it.

Speaker 10 (02:10:13):
I just assumed when I saw the Capella deal and
it's three years with you know, and you just gave
Steven Adams a three year deal, I'm going, wait, what
why you have so many centers on this team, and
so yeah, if you were to make a trade for
a Giannis Antetokombo, you'd have to part with a big piece.
Alprin Chagun is that big piece. He just made his
first All Star game. I understand there's a lot of

(02:10:35):
Rockets fans who are attached to alpiing, Oh, we can't
let him go. Look, if you can get out Giannis
for Alpi and some picks.

Speaker 5 (02:10:42):
You do it?

Speaker 2 (02:10:43):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (02:10:43):
The interesting part I sard Ben de Bo's earlier. He
made some great points. But if you're gonna play Adams,
you're gonna play Capella.

Speaker 1 (02:10:52):
You know.

Speaker 10 (02:10:52):
I had a lot of people I mentioned saying, oh,
you're gonna play Alpi at the four. You do not
want Alpi defending fours in this league. I mean, offensively fine,
but defensively it will be it will be ugly. So
and we know how much of a you know, he
may preaches defense, So we'll see what happens here. Again,
compelling points by Ben, And I've seen a lot of

(02:11:13):
the Capologists people saying, yeah, look where they are right now.
This is kind of the team. They really can't add
anything else. Yeah, I think this might be it, but
I'll be curious as hell how they use these guys.
All year people were saying, oh, Steved Adams, he's only
going to play half the games this year. Why the
hell I signed? I got a three year deal, it's
only going to play half the games. Like, I get it,
he's he's aging and you want to you want to

(02:11:34):
be conscious of it. But yeah, that it was a
little bit of a head scratcher. But look, man, we
got Kevin Durant coming in with this young core. Trust
the front office until they until they prove you're wrong.
Trust the front office.

Speaker 3 (02:11:47):
Absolutely. Chris Gordy joins us every week courtesy a Carbok Brewing.
I'm gonna set an over under right now. I'm assuming
that probably they allow for fireworks in the neighborhood. So
how many Crawford box does it take to drown out
the fireworks?

Speaker 10 (02:12:00):
Yeah, I mean I had a couple last week over
there at dike In Park. It's always nice to watch
the Astros playing and enjoy at Crawford Back. One more
road trip here before the All Star break there. They'll
be out in LA this weekend. Make sure you are
stocked up on playing at Crawford Back in your fridge
at home, or if you're going your local water hole,
drink responsibly. Grab a Crawford Back from Carbock Brewing. I'm

(02:12:22):
just telling you, when I drink a Crawford Block, more
often than not, the Astros are winning that game, So
there may be a correlation there.

Speaker 4 (02:12:27):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (02:12:27):
It's like red wine with me in the two thousand
and seven postseason. Seemed like whenever I did. They did well,
so you know, if it works, it works. Chris Gordy
again courtesy at Carbock Brewin joining us every Tuesday and
thirty Thursday. Gordy appreciate the time, Buddy Hright, Fellas, there
you go, we covered it all with Gordy Manning passing
Academy astros rockets. Let's get back in to those astros

(02:12:49):
because I mentioned Cause for optimism with one astro. How
about the other? We'll discuss that here. It is a
Sewn Salisbury show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 14 (02:13:00):
Let's go on.

Speaker 6 (02:13:01):
This is the Sean Salisbury Shows.

Speaker 3 (02:13:04):
Sean Sharania reporting that the thunder have signed shay Gilges
Alexander to a four year, two hundred and eighty five
million dollars super Max extension. So that's one of those
where it's like you aren't going anywhere, but you're definitely
not going anywhere.

Speaker 5 (02:13:21):
Now, how's that for the Timing Award and for a
year where you're the MVP, you're the postseason MVP in
the NBA Finals, you got a ring on your finger
and a trophy. You're in the infancy of your career,
you're widely known as one of the best players and
now you're making almost three hundred million.

Speaker 4 (02:13:39):
It's working out, well, how much? How many years? Four four?
For how much two hundred and eighty five million?

Speaker 1 (02:13:45):
You do?

Speaker 7 (02:13:45):
Do?

Speaker 4 (02:13:45):
You want to do the math? So it's like, what
seventy plus a year.

Speaker 5 (02:13:51):
Pushing eighty million dollars? Yeah, so eighty and eight hundred
and sixty that'd be three to twenty.

Speaker 3 (02:13:56):
So I can't imagine Oklahoma City you can spend any
even close to half of that.

Speaker 5 (02:14:01):
Well, seventy million year is exactly to eighty and how
much is it to eighty what to eighty five? Okay,
so he's basically making a little over seventy one million
a year.

Speaker 4 (02:14:11):
Good for him.

Speaker 5 (02:14:11):
I listen, I don't get people's wallet. It's all thumbs
up all the time. You get it to negotiate what
you're worth. I mean, you are worth what you negotiate.
That's just the bottom line, even though some think they're
always worth more. You're talking seventy one million dollars a year,
not including incentives and bonuses and endorsements that are going
to come with that. But that's what happens when the

(02:14:33):
timing's right and you've taken a city by storm and
really been the main gig in taking this team over
the top. I call that trusty as well.

Speaker 4 (02:14:41):
Wallet watching. You know people do that.

Speaker 3 (02:14:44):
Yeah, hey, look how much money they're going makes. What
doesn't mean he has to spend it on you?

Speaker 4 (02:14:47):
Well, and it doesn't mean you have to. He can.

Speaker 1 (02:14:49):
He can.

Speaker 5 (02:14:50):
If you're Jeff Bezos and you want to spend forty
five million dollars on a wedding, frivolous maybe to us.
I guess if you're a billionaire and you could change, hell,
you could. You could end homeless one hundred communities that money.
But it's his money if it matters to them, whether
we like it or not. And you spend in damn
near fifty million bucks on a wedding. I can think
of a lot of things I'd do with it, but
it's his money. And just like that, why would I?

(02:15:12):
And you know what, we'll complain about the money, yet
will still go watch? You know, when it comes to
Gilgas Alexander, is it in the in? Is it a
fantasy world? It absolutely is. But as Nick Saban always says,
what value you bring it?

Speaker 1 (02:15:25):
Well?

Speaker 5 (02:15:26):
Are you bringing value? He brought a lot of value
and the timing perfect. You win an NBA Championship all
comes together. He won't forget twenty twenty four to twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 3 (02:15:34):
I can assure you of that that wedding led to
a dumb argument between me and the lady. What was
that she was getting drawn off sides and I was
getting annoyed that she was getting drawn off sides.

Speaker 4 (02:15:43):
I just said, who cares? Who cares?

Speaker 5 (02:15:46):
Mad that they spent that much, or like that's really
cool to be able to spend it, Mad that they
spent that much because I mean for me, yes, like
you said, everything frivolous.

Speaker 4 (02:15:55):
Sure, it's your life, man, go for it.

Speaker 1 (02:15:58):
Do it?

Speaker 4 (02:16:00):
Oh, listen, we want to?

Speaker 1 (02:16:01):
You want to?

Speaker 5 (02:16:02):
You want to go buy kit from night Rider and
drive around the leather jacket. Dude, it's your life, go
for it. Let me just explain from my point of view,
I don't have an issue with people spending money really
want do. I think it's frivolous and there's a lot
more you can do with the yes, But when you're
worth about two hundred and fifty billion, I guess or
whatever he is now Bezos, I mean she did the

(02:16:22):
dress was nice, and so I don't know about all
the thing I it was nice, but for for forty
five million, listen if it, I mean, the memories are
going to come from.

Speaker 3 (02:16:30):
She aparently released a hole behind the scenes about the
dress course forty five minutes of course you did, of
cour Well, this is Hollywood. I think that I think
that should come with a stamp across your forehead that
says buffoon, Yeah we're watching that.

Speaker 5 (02:16:43):
I can just tell you, for that kind of money,
there's a lot of other things I do with it,
And I think that you can really have a really
beautiful wedding as a billionaire. The memories from that wedding
are not going to become at least I wouldn't think
of mine. Never come from Oh man, remember that move
you did walking down the aisle.

Speaker 10 (02:16:59):
You know what is.

Speaker 5 (02:17:02):
The dress was beautiful and all that, it's the people
you laughed and joked with. I can do that in
blue jeans, and I can do it in a pair
of tennis shoes, and I can do it spending forty
five million. But for me, I just soon had a
You know, even if you're the billionaire, So I spent
a couple hundred on the venue and flying people in
and having the top seafood or whatever spend Let's say

(02:17:24):
you even spend a see, a quarter of a million
dollars to me, even if you're a billionaire, is absurd.

Speaker 4 (02:17:29):
It is absurd.

Speaker 5 (02:17:30):
I'd rather have a ten minute wedding, twelve minute wedding,
and then have a party for a week. We're all
having fun and everybody hanging around and doing it for
the night and go, oh it doesn't know. I said,
for the weekend a week, invite everybody to Venice. Come
on and even if you want to, you know, put
them up and you get their hotel. It doesn't cost
forty five million. To me, it's a little it's a

(02:17:50):
little much. That's not my money. And it's okay. If
I was worth one hundred billion dollars, I can just
tell you now as I'm sitting here now, their principle
alone would never allow me.

Speaker 4 (02:18:03):
And goes back to the ultimatum.

Speaker 5 (02:18:04):
If if the significant others said, hey, I needed twenty
million dollar wedding, I'd say, good, you better call up
you better call up the man who owns Tesla or
some other billionaire. Find out what Warren Buffett's doing, because
you ain't getting twenty million dollars or forty million dollars
or fifty million dollar wedding here because it's.

Speaker 4 (02:18:25):
Just to my point, it's just dumb.

Speaker 5 (02:18:27):
But if you don't make a dentt in your money
and you spend forty five million bucks, have at it.

Speaker 4 (02:18:33):
To me, I think that you could.

Speaker 5 (02:18:35):
I'd rather build a take about ten acres and build
a place where dogs can go and they're never going
to die until they die of old age, that they
never have to worry about that for a lot less.
And I'm making difference, But for him and her, that
was what they wanted twenty years. So now I'm not
sure it's going to matter. And the next day he
probably made more interest on his money than he spent

(02:18:55):
on the wedding. I think it's frivolous. But I don't
get as well.

Speaker 4 (02:18:58):
It's on them. I wouldn't. I'd know her.

Speaker 5 (02:19:00):
She came to my golf tournament. She's a nice person.
But everybody has different interests, dude. I even if I
was worth a billion or ten billion dollars, I'd have
a hard time going and spending a half a million
dollars on a vehicle.

Speaker 4 (02:19:12):
You know some people too.

Speaker 5 (02:19:14):
It's just the thought process of how I was raised like, damn,
I could, but it's not self right just and if
those people who want to do it have at it,
I just think a little different. My truck's just fine,
and I don't need forty five million dollar wedding. Matter
of fact, the simpler the better for me.

Speaker 4 (02:19:30):
That's just me. Well, I just invited Elon Musk to
my wedding.

Speaker 5 (02:19:34):
You did, I did, Okay, And what if he decides, well,
let me chip in a million.

Speaker 4 (02:19:39):
Dollars to pay. I mean, I'm not gonna tell him no,
there you go.

Speaker 5 (02:19:42):
Why don't you say, give me the nine hundred and
eighty thousand of it and I'll have a We'll have
a nice little wedding and go about our business. I understand,
I do, but it's beyond my realm of principle. Wise,
I'm not spending forty five million dollars to get married.
It almost feels like you had to do that. That's

(02:20:02):
just not my style. But Jeff Bezos makes a lot
of money and he already made up for that, like
I said, with interest yesterday. So whatever they want, But
for me, that's just not where I'd go. I'd be
a little bit different on my spending. He's crazy enough
to show too, like where it's just like, oh my god,
he showed what Elon Musk?

Speaker 4 (02:20:20):
Is that our wedding? Oh yeah, oh he might. Did
you really invite him just on Twitter? I'd like to
invite Elon Musk into the wedding, got it?

Speaker 5 (02:20:27):
Okay, there you go, there you go for me, The
less that know, the better come out of it. I'm
just oh, I know, I would let you know. I
would let you know afterwards, right right, But I don't know.
I just have a hard time, and I get people's
disdain with it. I do, But listen, you're making that
kind of money. Forty five million to him is probably
the equivalent is going through a drive through to us,

(02:20:48):
I guess. So, But I know what I could do
for others people football, right, But for you to tell
me how to spend my money business, yeah, there you go.
So I I'll pass on the forty five million. Well,
I ain't paying a million dollars for a wedding my
daughter they Dad, we'd like to have. Well, I hope

(02:21:08):
you got three jobs. Well, Dad, you're worth ten billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (02:21:11):
I know.

Speaker 5 (02:21:12):
And I'm still worth ten billion dollars because I'm not
paying twenty million dollars for your wedding.

Speaker 3 (02:21:16):
See that's there, you go. See that's that's the point too. Yeah,
it's people you want to be Rachels because I got it.
I mean I got to spend it on that do
as rich people do. Rich people don't spend money frivolously, right,
Wealthy people don't.

Speaker 5 (02:21:28):
Yeah, well this one did. But in his mind it
wasn't frivolous. The forty five million fit. In my mind,
it looks a little frivolous. But if that's what they
need for their for their union, have at it. I
would just it's not a pound on the back. There's hell,
even if I wanted to, I'd I'd rather buy four
hundred different toys of if if if you were into that,

(02:21:49):
then I would spend forty five million dollars to walk
down the Aisle five. It's a decent enough vacation for him.
Who you think, Yeah, I hope so. But like I said,
good on that. It's their money.

Speaker 3 (02:22:00):
I'm sure he made forty five million dollars yesterday with Amazon,
so it all works.

Speaker 5 (02:22:04):
So don't cheat him out of the other half a
billion he probably may probably, Well you do the interest
here because they get, they get good rates. When you
spending all that money, just throw it in there. When
you're you're two hundred billions sitting somewhere, guess what.

Speaker 4 (02:22:15):
And you know what's coming out from today? Yeah? Prime Day?
Oh there you go.

Speaker 3 (02:22:19):
So yeah, I know he doesn't bother me, but I
wouldn't do it. It's like when people got on Mattress Mac.
Oh my god, I can't you know this guy's gonna
lose all his money. I go again, Remember what I
just told you about wealthy people. Listen, Mattress Mack's a
very smart guy.

Speaker 4 (02:22:37):
That's how you. So smart and hard working make you
a lot of money. And if not, they buy.

Speaker 5 (02:22:42):
They give you the opportunity to be in position to
do make some decisions. Don't worry about those people on
their money. They'll be fine for sure, for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:22:50):
Someone three two one two five seven ninety the number
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You want to weigh in and see a lot of
people want to get in on both. So so those
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(02:25:34):
they're pretty good.

Speaker 4 (02:25:34):
They're not bad.

Speaker 5 (02:25:36):
Pitching is going to be at a premium too, as
we know, but it would be great for that trend
to continue, especially since it's jumping on you right after
this Colorado series, and which is a ballpark that you
can rake in. It's captain obvious as well. But the
to get that going and the momentum or the confidence,

(02:25:56):
like I said, game to game momentum gets thwarted by pitching,
but the confidence that those two will need saying Okay,
did it in Colorado, did it in Los Angeles. But
it also helps you on understanding that man and it's
on the urgent with Jeremy Panigan. It's not like three
weeks down the road how the team's fitting in. It's
right sending a message that says, Okay, we lose that guy.
You're going to get production from us now, and those

(02:26:18):
two guys of all the names you mentioned, al two
v ales show up and the rest of it. If
those two guys do show up and that the trend
of trending up starts and continues for them through the
month of July or at least through the All Star
break as you start to figure out the health, that
would be great, because in truth, I just think it's
it's crazy for us to ask and although we're doing

(02:26:39):
it or expect pitching to be this good, this long
all the time, or they don't go through a mini
slump themselves, and let's hope it's many. So for me,
I am sold on the fact that you keep pitching,
you'll do well. But what a great and it also
when those guys come back, it'll be a great feeling
for Christian Walker and those guys that know that we

(02:27:01):
not only carried ours but.

Speaker 4 (02:27:02):
We went but we did a little bit more.

Speaker 5 (02:27:04):
And it's going to take it because you know what,
just as quick as you win in two zero games,
you can lose those two games with one swing of
the bat on one bad pitch. You don't get a lot.
There's not a lot of luxury in bandwidth to work in.
So with that, I do, and they have to know
this because if they don't, what do we expecting altovate
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(02:27:27):
sooner and cam Smith to start could continue to play
like he's a rookie of the year guy. So it's
going to take a lot, but it would be nice
with the with with the catcher in the first baseman
and Walker and Diaz to elevate, especially against good teams.
And this team's played really, really good against good teams
and in close games. I'm going to tell you eighty

(02:27:49):
games in they're doing all the right things except the
consistency at the plate. And you've got bodies that have
proven they can do it. Now'd be a good.

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Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety Brad once again in Brad,
good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (02:29:57):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (02:29:58):
I heard I read and that Clint for Clint Compella
the Rockets gave up a two thy thirty one second
round pick and cash consideration.

Speaker 4 (02:30:09):
So I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 14 (02:30:12):
I think it is, but I guess they have to
manage the books, right, I mean, even though he still
is just a free agent.

Speaker 4 (02:30:21):
I don't know, y'all didn't ask that guy how.

Speaker 14 (02:30:24):
That works when it's a total free agent.

Speaker 5 (02:30:26):
But really, let me ask a question in truth, do
you really care about what they gave up? If it
was a second round pick in cash in twenty thirty one,
do we really care about that?

Speaker 14 (02:30:40):
No, as long as he didn't give up too much,
I'm glad we.

Speaker 5 (02:30:44):
Got it to the right price. Yeah, Copella's the Capella
is A is A. This is a This is an upgrade,
especially for the money he's making. There's no doubt.

Speaker 14 (02:30:54):
Hey, Oklahoma City's got two big men. I would now
we got three two and a half. I consider shan
Gun like a tweener, But yeah, we need to three.
I mean, the more the merrier.

Speaker 4 (02:31:10):
But the other thing I had for the astro real quick,
real quick.

Speaker 14 (02:31:15):
You think that call up could be Bryce Matthews.

Speaker 3 (02:31:18):
No, it sounds like it's gonna be Shaye wakemb. I
appreciate the call ari Alexander, who's always all over.

Speaker 5 (02:31:22):
It isn't Matthew's playing in the futures game. He's playing
in the futures game. But I mean, the thought that
I have with that is that they want Runway with him.
If you bring them up, he stays and I just
don't feel like that. They feel like they're.

Speaker 4 (02:31:35):
Ready to do that. And you know what, there's no
rush there no rush there.

Speaker 3 (02:31:40):
Well especially too, you don't want to waste options for
somebody that could be a short term.

Speaker 4 (02:31:45):
Bring up Brandon, what's going on? Brandon? A good man?

Speaker 5 (02:31:49):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (02:31:51):
I need to talk to you about pitching, hitting and proing?

Speaker 4 (02:31:55):
All right, well, what do you got on him?

Speaker 1 (02:32:00):
And we didn't get in need a double pois on
the home team. What do you think?

Speaker 3 (02:32:08):
Well, I mean, yeah, double plays are great. You just
don't want to be the one grounding into them.

Speaker 1 (02:32:14):
How about keep it from scoring.

Speaker 4 (02:32:17):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (02:32:17):
That's that's where the pitching comes in. And the Astros
have gotten a good pitching and now you just need
some of the guys to step up with the hitting.

Speaker 4 (02:32:25):
Okay, all right, Brandon, appreciate it. I mean, you know
those are at least two of the three.

Speaker 3 (02:32:31):
For the most part, the Astros have done well at
It's been the hitting at times that has been inconsistent
for them.

Speaker 5 (02:32:39):
But if it happens and you've got to win two
O games a whole year, I'll take well, yeah, it's unrealistic,
but I can't wait till they get to that. Whether
they're out there and they're raking and peep their winning
games and pitching hasn't had to worry about logging too
much innings and happen to be in high leverage situations
every day.

Speaker 3 (02:32:58):
Remember this come October though, remember this, when we get
to that point where those are the type of games
they're going to be in and callousing over with that
right now is something that could really benefit.

Speaker 5 (02:33:09):
You when you get to that point. You do not
want to wear out. I say, fresh legs. It's fresh arms,
fresh legs, you know, football's fresh legs. You do not
want to peak now. And then all of a sudden,
because hitting is that the pitching falls back a little,
and then all of a sudden, the hitting is they're

(02:33:30):
still going like they're going. And now then what happens
with the bullpen, then what happens and what happens with
starting pitching. I know there's expectations, Dan, but to me
and you'll take them. Maybe it's one of those years
where this is just the way it's going to be.
And if it is, God bless them. But for me,
at some point in time, even if it's for a
couple of weeks, the hitting will have to carry the

(02:33:51):
pitching to preserve their September October run.

Speaker 3 (02:33:54):
They're just going to have to. I think it'll be
the case for every team that's any good. No time
like the present. All right, Terry, you're gonna close this
out this morning. Good morning, Terry, Good morning.

Speaker 1 (02:34:04):
I just wonder what's going on with Juice scrugs.

Speaker 3 (02:34:08):
Juice scrugs. Yeah, uh, with the Okay, that's that's who
you're asking about. I mean, fighting for a playing spots
on the offensive line, trying to.

Speaker 4 (02:34:22):
Was there something that he was being specific about?

Speaker 3 (02:34:24):
Well, I mean he just wanted to know, I mean
calling from Ohio, so I'm guessing probably you know.

Speaker 4 (02:34:29):
He wants to know like he's got a chance to
be a starter.

Speaker 2 (02:34:32):
And is that?

Speaker 4 (02:34:33):
Is that what he's asking pretty much? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:34:34):
Oh, I didn't know if I missed something overnight that
something happened or that they were that there was movement
or something. But uh, I I'm he's part of an
offensive line that they're trying to get better at.

Speaker 1 (02:34:46):
Is that is that? Does that?

Speaker 4 (02:34:47):
Was that his question?

Speaker 1 (02:34:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:34:48):
I mean, because I'm just like you, I haven't seen
anything that any any news out there to wonder if
them and if we missed it, well we'll find out. Yeah,
appreciate the call.

Speaker 4 (02:35:01):
There you go. When we getting calls from Ohio, I'm
all in there you go.

Speaker 3 (02:35:04):
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