Astros Win Series Over Angels, NBA Finals Game 2 Recap, Caitlin Clark Left Off Olympic Roster?

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Saulsby. Okay, let's do this. Shawn Salisbury, The USC Truths,
longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury, BrianLima, go Lobos. This is the
Shawn Salisbury Show. The Celtics takea two games to nothing lead after they

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beat the Mavericks one O five ninetyeight. Last night, Scott Scheffler wins
another tournament in the PGA. Didyou call him? Scott? I went,
Shotler? I went Scott Scheffler.Scott Scheffler. Yeah. Hey,
you know what, Yeah, ifwe open a good morning, by the
way, good morning, good morning, Tripoli, what's up? Good morning
there he is. Hey, there'sa new word for bitter hater. It's

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called w Yeah. Is there agroup of people that can't stand a Star
Wars the Death? You're going toa four thousand seed areta and you have
to move it to a bigger arenaand it sells out at twenty two thousand
because of Caitlin Clark, and thenyou just decide to leave her off the
Olympic team, even if you don'tthink she could start for you. More
people are gonna watch what she's there, right, and then you see interviews.

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Is there a group of people thatare more bitter at their own player
in a league that's enhanced the leaguemore than this. They are the biggest
group collectively of haters, not justin sports, anywhere anywhere, let alone
sports. It is so I mean, you can see it from a million
miles away. It's just And thenshe goes when she gets snubbed, then

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goes in haggs thirty on him infront of twenty two thousand, puts on
a clinic and knocks down seven threes. I'm thinking, all right, people
that would have watched aren't now.It's just it's it's classic, and it's
so obvious four or five reasons whythey don't. And it'd be like Tiger
Wood's coming into the and everybody hatinghim for making them more money. It's

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the dumbest thing I've ever seen.But I digress. I know we got
Astros, talk had a chance tosweep and didn't. And Ryan Presley is
just an average pitcher man. Ihate to say it right now, right
now, And the confidence part ofit, but Brian, it was fromber
was phenomenal on Friday, and theytook here their business on Saturday, and

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Jordan's heating up a lot of goodthings you like about the Astros. But
man and he got that, andhe and Hate are both and let's not
let Hater off the hook. Hedidn't know. Neither one of them closed
it out the way that they needto. And I don't know. I
hate thinking about Ryan Presley as justa pedestrian pitcher and a guy, but
since he's been demoted for the mostpart, that's what he's been. But

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let's look at the good stuff.They won two or three, didn't sweep.
Mariners and Rangers both won yesterday afterthey got were on the Vergie,
but getting swept over the weekend,and he gained two games and then lost
one right back back to six anda half out of first place. But
there's some good things going on withthem on and al two v a bunch
of hits yesterday as well, butyeah, four hits, Yeah you got

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you gotta close it out. Mancouldn't do it. So Yeah, a
lot going on in basketball, includingthe Celtics are gonna I don't think you
can come down from two oh,and Kyrie struggled again. So there's a
lot of good sports to talk about, man. Yeah, just uh.
In regards to the Houston Astros,Ryan Presley Rough eighth inning, Josh Ader
Rough ninth inning. Trey Cabbage wentup to rob the baseball on a obviously

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the game winning home run. Hadit in the glove, comes down onto
that wall, pops out, ballgame over, YEP. Should have had
better lettus. I mean well,I was gonna say, you go,
if your cabbage, you go upgrab it. The lettuce kind of got
away, you know, it wasit was shredded lettuce. It was you
don't like shred lettin, Yeah,you do, you know you do?

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Or the kind of lettuce, thenice iceberg lettuce. Yes, that stays
together, right, like when you'reputting one of those what do they call
the when you just put the meatin the lettuce? What's that called it?
Let's wrap there, you go,yeah, let us wrap? Yeah,
good, let us wrap by cabbage. Unfortunate four hits yesterday, forday,

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should I say sorry about that?Three RBI for Jose al Tuove with
a home run. Alex Bregman leftthe game he had a ball hit off
of his He was hit by apitch and it was hit off of his
wrist. X rays were negative.He's listed as day to day. Kyle
Tucker over the weekend went to theI L Joe Joey lo Berfido was brought

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back up to the major league squad. That's the hell of a bone bruise
on it on for for Kyle Tucker, Yeah, hell of a bruise.
Not good. Jake Myers a couplehits yesterday. Basically everybody in the lineup
except for Trey Cabbage and Jordan hada hit. That was just yesterday.
But like I said, they didwin the series. Uh, don't look
now, don't look now. Okay, what what am I not looking at?

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Jose A Brays hitting buck thirty two? Yeah to yesterday, you know
what he's doing, sizzling. Ifeel for John Singleton because I feel like
when jose A Bray you went downto West Palm Beach. I feel that
John Singleton put together some really goodat bats, hit some home runs,

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played really good defensive first base,and in my opinion, earned the spot
to continue to play at first base. And he didn't sniff the field this
weekend. Well has he continued toearn it even in spot to where they're
they're they're going back and that's thatyou have to look at it. He's
a pro that's gonna have to fightoff competition as well. And I know
it's part of it too. Yeah, exactly, I understand that. I

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just feel for them a bit.I agree because the only reason that jose
A. Brady was in this lineupis because of nineteen and a half million
dollars in Jeff Bagwell, right now, what if a Brave goes on and
hits two seventy five this year,Well, then I'm going to buy it.
I'm going to buy a lottery ticketand all that. There you go.
So he had a couple of hitsyesterday. I guess that's a positive.
Obviously, let's not go overboard onhim. He's hitting in the what's

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he hitting one thirty? Yeah?We probably slower a roll he I mean,
he may be a little hotter thanhe was saying. Man, well,
when you got to get hot toget the one fifty we got,
there's there's a a little issue overit. He's uh three eighty five ops,
sizzling. You think about where itwas before he got the three eighty
five. There's only one way togo. That's up baby, that is

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uh yeah, three three eighty fiveops. He's got two bombs. On
the season. So we're making alittle bit of stride there. Oh hey,
every couple hits, it prolongs theinevitable in my opinion. Yeah,
that he's going to be a starky. Don't you roll up off him?
Man, Roll up off, Rollup off, brill dog. It's probably

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good that you roll up off,don't you think? I guess? Damn
tough man, Ryan Presley, let'ssee here, all right, excuse me?
Ryan Presley went appearing in the gametied up one up to this season.
You're ready for these? Yep?Bring them? Uh? March twenty
eighth against the Yankees, he gotthe loss. He got the hold against

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Toronto. I'm just gonna scroll.This goes from March until today or yesterday
against Toronto. He successfully held thelead against Atlanta, blown save against Washington,
blown save against Cleveland, he keptthe game tied against Seattle, hold
against New York, hold against Oakland, blown save against Los Angeles, game
tide against Seattle, blown save inthe loss against Minneapolis, for excuse me,

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Minnesota, he got the loss,and then yesterday blown save. Wow.
So is somebody gonna tell me thathe's that everything's just fine with him?
I'm not trying about health. I'mtalking about the the mental or emotionless.

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He's obviously healthy, he wouldn't bechick going on. And it comes
down to simple as the way itlooks now, he's just not a he
hasn't handled He's handled it well inpublic eye, but it doesn't look to
me like the demotion has been somethingwe can try to cover it because they're
grown men and the rest of it. From my vantage point, the demotion

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has bothered him and he has notpitched as well, or as confident or
as dominant as he did when hewas the guy that you were closing out
games with. That's as simple asit looks now. If you told me
he was missing appearances because maybe hisarm was tired and the rest of it.
But I'd say it's deeper than that, And I know people I can
to protect. Sometimes it's okay toadmit that the demotion bothered somebody. Now,

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how you overcome it's going to continuewill be whether you continue your career
in that role or in the closerrole or somewhere else. But right now,
I don't think there's a lot ofpeople that fear Ryan Presley come into
the plate when they come to theplate in the eighth inning. Matter of
fact, I think they can't waitfor it right now. And that's nothing
against the dude. He's been great. But if he's not hurt and they

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say he's he's got good stuff,then what is it? Then? Then
what is it? I mean,he's had put it this way right now,
we're not even at the midway pointof the season. He's had a
full season of gaffs already that wouldhe that he would not normally have right
so, And like I say,it's nothing against him personally at all,

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it's the fact that so if we'retrying to slice it and figure out what's
the reason, is there any biggerreason than a demotion has bothered him?
It's kind of And that's that's humannature. I get it. But then
you've got to st to get toa point where it would be a risk
of losing that gig if you're notcareful. I'm getting the motive right right

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now. The truth is you shouldbe flipping the meaning him in a brave
But I can root harder for himbecause the guy has been really good here
and he seems like a hell ofa teammate. But if he's not hurt
and there's velocity is the same andhe's still got the same stuff, it's
hard for me to sit there andsay that and make excuse Yeah, well
it was a weak hit or itwas a soft hit. You know,

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we try to cover up something andput you know, spray spray cologne on
something that made that's not be whereit's supposed to be. This is not
the Ryan Presley we're used to.And if he's not hurt, then what
is it If it isn't the demotion. And that's exactly now when you say
demotion or when I say it,should I say the demotion isn't that he's
not good. It's simple that theythought somebody was better. So it's a

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you can you could sugarcoat it anyway you want. Anybody can not just
you don't talk about all of us. But the bottom line is they went
out and got a guy, paidhim ninety million dollars because I thought he
was better than Ryan Presley, andPresley it appears has not responded the way
you thought, meaning all of uswe thought, and he just hasn't.

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I mean, he can't locate anything, He leaves pitches over the plate.
There was a wild pitch yesterday inthat eighth inning. I mean, he
it's just it's ugly. Yeah,it's just ugly. It's not been the
same and it's the only way youcan slice it. And then Josh Hader
coming in and well we know itwas a rough one. Yeah yeh.

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nice VCR on because I or vVCR is with that VCR v DVR.
Yeah, VCR is back of theeighties, uh DVR because first pitch just
before like a little before nine.Yeah, nope, I'm out man,
Sorry, I but I can't.I can't see a midnight a midnight closed

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say hey, man boy, thatwas worth it. Yeah, you got
to get up three and a halfhours later. I'll probably catch about the
first catch minutes. Yeah, ay, two inning and b didn't be then
didn't have to get up early andsee if there's and then to look and
say, okay, where were thekey innings you had to watch or the
key plays? But yeah, thatWest Coast swing makes a little difficult for
a three thirty wake up. Butregardless of that, over the weekend you

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can stay up and do it.And saw some good baseball and yesterday down
had it tied boom working their wayaround, jump back up and then uh,
you know, two in the eightto two in the ninth by I
think it was, yeah, fourruns in the eighth the ninth and yep,
and that was the end for theAngels. And should I say the
Astros and the Angels took care oftheir business on a on an odd ending,
but uh, even more odd consideringthe eight and nine guys who were

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supposed to be you know, footon your throat closers and and and we've
seen haters start to do that.It's just been a struggle all year,
up and down, lack of consistencyfor Ryan Presley locating and getting it done.
But there was some things to likeover the weekend. There's no question
about it. Yeah, you knowwe're gonna be glass half full like we
always are. Well, what we'lltell me coming out of this? Are

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you more bitter or happy after whathappened this weekend? I saw some good
things from the astros. Jordan obviouslyswinging in a little bit better, jose
Al Tuve continue to do it.Colets are going on the IL. I
know it's not broken, but stillhaving him out on the ten day Ils
sing out Bregman being day to day. Now he got hit on his back
of his left hand, and hegets hit on his wrist. He gets

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taken out from er Valdez. Soyelts So now Bregman got Now just to
add another pad to the left,maybe a Jeff bag is it Bagwell?
Who wears yes? Would he worethe biggest Franklin with the big paddle right
on the left hand, and thenthe shin thing and then maybe where the
the back of the arm thing upsev. It takes fifteen minutes to take
off the arm yeah, you know, so I saw some good things,

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but the I say, you're ina part of the let's see schedule that
you need to sweep. You arethirty and thirty six. You need to
get back to five hundred, andthose are games that you have to win.
I'm sorry, that's where we areright now with this team. You

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have to sweep. You should havetaken that game yesterday and if your eighth
and ninth any guys can come inand do their job, we would be
talking about a sweep. Yeah,and they'd still be five and a half
out of first place. Now it'ssix and a half and the Mariners won
their game late yesterday too, atsix or five, I think in their
game. So listen, it's alot of good things, but you got

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to sweep. Right, There isa lot of good things, and there's
some things happening that you've got tolove. But you still look at them
and say, bits and pieces ofthem look like a championship team. The
consistency of dominant dominance at times lookslike a champion team, right, But

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there were some things. The Batswhen they're going, man there, they
are relentless on pitching staffs. Theyjust are but trying to figure out,
you know, putting every single thingtogether for that June run, which will
be important if they come out ofJune six and a half or seven and
a half out of first place.With this schedule, I think that you
can be a little more concerned,don't you Yet when you think deep down

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to it, that's too series,dude, that's two friggin series, and
you're going to play the Mariners andthe Rangers more games. I mean,
that's a sweep of a series,but it's also the sweep of the other
team series. It puts you inlike, well, could go from six
and a half to nine and ahalf, So yeah, you got it.
There were some things really like andI did. And as you're watching
that game yesterday and you say,oh, don't let this one get away

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from you, and unfortunately did lateand those are the ones that you can't
let happen. Yez. He wassensation. It was fantastic, man,
sure was complete game four hits,one earned, eight, one walk,
one hundred and six pitches. Thatwas a stuff, man, And I'm
glad they let him do it.I'm glad they when he went in the
eighths, like you can't he rerunnerhim right back out or you don't risk

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anything, and he took care ofhis business. What a performance it was.
Remember we joked around on Friday goingand I said, ah, six
to two, and he goes seventy'ssix and a third to seven innings and
he dominated that he was He wasdamn near unhittable the entire night. He
was really good. And then HunterBrown was also really good. Six innings,
pitch, two hits, no run, seven k's four walks. Obviously
had to get those walks down,but he looked really good. Man,

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he did, and if he couldlimit those walks, you're looking at a
guy who's who's starting to look exactlylike who they expected when they all the
talk the last few years, andhe's logging some innings now. He was
really really frigging impressive. If hecan just he and arra Gett, he
just got to limit the walks,man, because you're gonna need them.

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Those two cats are going to beso important for this run, and they're
not used to logging this many innings, No, and they're doing a hell
of a job. Good for them, but walk's got You can't give free
passes teams punish you with free passes. But Hunter Brown and both and and
Fromber were really really good. Andyou know, Verlander does what he does.
He grinds and grinds and grinds,and you know you're going to stay

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in it. Just couldn't get it, couldn't get it finished down the stretch
for them yesterday. Yeah, let'ssee four. Justin Verlander. I know
at one point, excuse me,he met with Joe Spot. I believe
at that point, you know,you trust your veteran to get out of
it. And then he, youknow, induces a double play. Verlander
five innings, seven hits, fourruns, all of them earned three k's,

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one hundred and one pitches. Solast couple outings, he's kind of
grinded through five innings, the pitchcount getting elevated a little bit. But
one thing we do know about JustinVerlander is is anybody that's gonna make adjustments
for his next downing and it willbe him. There's no doubt about it.
He does it all the time.That's just typical of his and you
can count on it. Grind man. He may not always give you,

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it may not always be the best. You know, when you look at
the stats that, well, theygave up two solo home runs. But
he will grind and adjust. He'sone of the great adjusters in all of
basement. Yeah, it has beenfor a while, no question about it.
Seven one three, two, onetwo five seven ninety of the number
to join Steve good morning. Hey, hey guys, I've got a suggestion.

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I don't know if it will work. I played Little league, so
there's my extent, and I'm areal good business man. You'll find it
out, Sean one day. Youknow, the metrics versus the situation,
That's what I'm gonna talk about today. I just briefed over. I know
they were leading and they're supposed towin this game. Would you agree with
that, Brian? Yeah, absolutely, But it's just like Sean, I

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know that you know that that andI'm picking on Brian because I like Brian.
Uh, you know that regardless isthe way it sounds, but I
mean the way way it sounds betterthat way. But They're real word is
Irregardless is not a word. Sothe same thing with metrics. That's my
point. I'm picking my time whatthey consider you got to get. I

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think the lead was seven five andthey gave it up, the lost nine
to seven. Instead of thinking,well, let me put bring in six,
seven, eight nine. I thinkI think Verlanda went went five the
normal way. They think, whycouldn't they think let's bring in a guy
that's instead of going five rotations,let's go four now, and let's bring

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in Aringatity and close it out insteadof the normal way. That's that's my
thought process. I know, longhaul, that's not a way to go
because you know arms are going tobe a little tired, but over the
over the long haul. But thething is, let's win the game.
That's my point. Let's win thegame, and to me, that would

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be a better play. But I'lllisten to y'all smartness, don't they're smarter
than me in this. But Ijust think, like, you know,
let us spot it. Get atext like, hey, we got to
win this game, not let's doseven six, seven, eight nine like
we normally do and lose. Iknew they were then lose when they did
this game. It's just it wasjust like it just pisses me off sometimes

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really, but but anyways, Iwant to know why they wouldn't do that.
I know, maybe it's a longhaul, But I'll hang up and
listen. But why couldn't you bringin on your if you have a five
or six rotation, bring one ofthose rotation guys if in a situation,
not every time, but in asituation and I think this calls for that
situation. I'll hang up and listento. He appreciated, Steve. I
think, I mean, obviously therotation thing's not going to happen, but

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why not bring in Taylor Scott.Taylor Scott has sub two ERA, he's
pitched extremely well. Well, I'lltake it a difference. I'll take it
a different step. First off,and Steve, the one thing you're not
going to do is take a starterand stick him in the bullpen when he's
got to start, even if it'sa six man rotation, unless it was
the seventh game of the World Seriesor in a World Series, must win,

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all hands on deck situation, You'renot going to take your starter who's
in the rotation currently and then allof a sudden say, hey man,
you're starting in two days, butwe need you to get in the eighth
inning to set up hater that they'renot going to do that. They if
the baseball has become such a specializedwhether we like it or not. Baseball
has become such a specialized deal thatwe pay a guy to be in the

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seventh we pay a guy to bein the eighth, whether we like it
or not, and you could stepout of the box. I don't like
always being in the same comfort zoneof do it this way all the time,
especially if this way is not workingthe way you want to. And
the eighth inning has not been normalthis year period, but it's not going
to be a starter. What Iwhat bothers me to no ends of the
earth or to the ends of theearth. Should I say, is if

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if you're seventh inning guy's going good, I don't know why you can't run
him in the eighth inning. Tome, it's just we see guys.
I watched my guy in Kenley JansenBoston. They were losing. He came
in, it was four to three, boom they close to and up winning
the game. He came in topitched two innings. At the end,
he gave you two and he's he'she's got a little age, he's starting

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to age up a little bit,Kenley Jansen. So point is is it?
I think we're at times too cutewith specialization. The ball's not heavy.
And if a bray you have tothrow twenty five pitches, guess what?
Or thirty pitches he's a big boy. Then you just then he can't
pitch the next day. Oh well, that's why you got a bunch of
guys on your roster. I don'thave to go seven eight nine just the

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way it is all the time.And if Hater's got to give me six
outs, then guess what? Orfive outs or four outs or twenty five
pitches and guess then he's got todo it. So but it's not gonna
be a starter there. But Idon't have to I'm with most. I
don't think it has to be seveneight nine the same way all the time.
Now, yesterday may have called forwe've won two games a bray,
you let's see it. It setsup for Presley. We got a lead.

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You didn't think the Pressley was gonnago in there and do that,
and he didn't think Hater was,so I guess why they did it yesterday.
But I don't think you always haveto go in saying if a breaker
goes bingo bango bongo, let's justsay against San Francisco and strikes out the
side in the seven into ten pitches, Why can't he give me twelve more
pitches? He can, And ifhe gets one out in the eighth inning

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and you see him walk a guy, Every pitcher doesn't have to have a
clean inning. If everything's got tobe exactly the way they want it,
then your life's gonna I mean,it doesn't go like that in baseball in
life. So to me, weare overly specialized, not just here but
in sports to the point where youthink this is what we gotta do.
No, sometimes it's not what yougot to do. But it's not going
to be a starting pitcher that goesback there unless it was an all hands

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on deck thing. Something's got tochange in the eighth inning. Well,
it may be a very body thathas to change in the agency. I
hate to say it, but yeah, it will be. But everything that
we've seen production wise this season,it's not been there. Let's just call
like it is right now. Whenthe eighth inning comes around and it's within
two or three runs, your nervousas hell. Yeah, sadly to say,

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but you just are. And ifyou were playing the Dodgers in the
eighth inning, and it was aone run lead by you and the heart
of the orders coming up and abray you just struck out the side the
inning before. You cannot go toRyan Press. You cannot. Not today.
You can't maybe by the end ofthe year. Today you can't.
And I don't really care what hishistory was as a closer. He ain't
the closer now. You just absolutelycannot do that unless it's a short least

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first guy walks get him out.Yeah, but listen the fact that these
guys give you he's a big enoughbody to go in the eighth NAF.
You cannot do it right now ina game like that, if it was
an elimination game. Can't do it. No, not today, not from
what we've seen so far. Let'sget to break. We'll continue to take
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a lit up phone board. Let'sget out to you the Astro fan want

(27:15):
to talk Astros. Looks like alot of people want to get in on
Ryan and Pressley. Let's talk toLeon first. Leon, welcome in morning,
guys. What's happening. I'm likehere, I'm like here everybody else
I'm disappointed, but here it's justa casual fan, just just the observation.

(27:37):
Our pitching has not been the samesince Brent Strong has been gone.
I'm sorry that that's just the wayI see it. And and maybe I'm
wrong, but I remember a fewyears ago. So the pictures when they
on a bad day, they lookover the dougout and see strongly for the
walk out that dugout, and theygo like, oh crap, he comes
strong me. I'm gonna get aDutch on your car talk too, And

(27:59):
maybe that's what somebody guys need mewe call him too much. I don't
know, And you're right, Seanpress is not the same Pressley two years
ago. He's just not the sameguy. And I can appreciate, you
know, you feel a certain kindof way because they brought hater in with
all that money. But dude,you professional athlete. You got to get
it done. I'm sorry, youjust got to get it done. And
yesterday it's just from the sixty ain'ton. It was just not necessarily a

(28:22):
comedy of errors. But dubon.You know buddhah deck play at third base.
I know he's a better player thanthat. You know, guys misjudging
the fly balls a couple of times. Just it just seems to lose that
game when we shouldn't have that.Again, the whole thing, I think
our pitching is inconsistent because we don'thave Brentam anymore. And that's just the

(28:42):
way I feel about it. Icould be wrong. Appreciate the call leons,
I don't. I don't think Lion'soff when you lose the best at
what he does. If you losea great player, are you the same?
I know, unless you're placing witha great player, right, you
lose the best pitching coaching baseball arguably, And maybe it's not even an argument,
of course, that he's going tosuffer. And you saw what he
did the Arizona. He's a differencemaker. He's a needle mover. And

(29:04):
it's no knock on the guys behindhim. It's just those are big shoes
to fill, and Brent Strom wasa difference maker. And there's no question
things are a little different now.I will argue that the starting pitching has
done their job for the most partthe last for the most part, not
all of them. Fifteen starts maybesomewhere in that range, and they're get
there, getting better. But yeah, the consistency of it all the way

(29:26):
around, from top to bott it'snot just about starting pitching, it's everywhere.
Brent Strom was a difference maker,and you can't you can't lose guys
like that and all of a suddenthing easy to replace. No, I
think it's pretty easy to see thatit's not. It's a great point.
By a caller. Seven one three, two one two five seven ninety the
number to join. Let's talk toScott. Hey, Scott, Hey,

(29:47):
what's up guys, Good morning morning. I uh, I didn't get on
first thing this morning, so I'mnot sure if y'all mention it or not,
but I just I want to knowif you guys have heard the report
on Trevor Bauer and if there's anytruth behind it. You know, I
know that the Astros aren't really shyfrom taking a flyer on a on a
guy who's had a shady pass.I mean, look at as sooner that

(30:10):
we got from the Blue Jays.I just want to see what you guys
had to say. And as faras Presley goes, you know, father
time always wins it. It mightbe time to put somebody else there.
I don't know. I'm listen towhat you guys have to say. Thank
you, Thanks Scott. So Idon't know if you saw Sean. I
believe it was Friday, Trevor Bauerthrew a bullpen in front of a lot

(30:33):
of major league teams and on hisInstagram he uh grabbed an Astro's hat,
kind of a cryptic type thing.That's as far as I know. So
he did throw in front of multipleteams. There was a lot of guys
that threw bullpens in front of majorleague scouts. From my understanding, Uh,

(30:53):
it's still not gonna happen here.Yeah, it's gonna happen somewhere.
Yeah, he's gonna play. He'sgonna pitch again. Now, whether you
like him or not, I don'tlisten the depth of what goes on.
Who wasn't over the week, andI can't remember what the guys have?
You got some freaky sex ideas?Apparently who Trevor Bauer? Uh yeah,

(31:15):
okay, I was reading. Ican't remember who tweeted it, but talking
about how I mean he's a littledifferent. Maybe it was a buddy of
mine. I can't I can't rememberwho tweeted. But but the guy can't
deal. The guy can pitch.Yeah, he's listen, but he's a
douchebag. That's I'm not there yet. Okay, sorry, I'm not there
yet. There's a lot of douchebags. For forget the criminal part of it.

(31:41):
Pushed that aside because apparently, aswe sit today, he's been proven
innocent, right or not guilty.He hasn't been charged, right, and
that that the the person who's accusedhim, or whoever, has has been
looked into as well. Correct,one of them is right. Okay,
So as we sit today, listen, I'm not taking trouble side, but

(32:01):
that there's there's way too much smokethere, probably for somebody you want to
deal with it. Let's just sayas it sits today, the guys didn't
is innocent of what they said ornot guilty, whatever it is, Take
the law part out of it.If it's because right now, is he
in jail? Is he pitching?He's pitching? That in and it is?
Has he been found to the pointwhere they threw did they throw charges

(32:22):
out or found him not guilty?Is that correct? He was the the
previous charges so far? Correct?Just go where we are, don't speculate
on what may happen. He's pitching, he's not behind bars. Correct,
And apparently, according to that judge, didn't know anything wrong right now,
freaky weird all that stuff apparently,Yes, But I'll ask you this.

(32:49):
Okay, So now let's get downthat's clear. Now, let's get to
the douchebaggery, good words. Heseems to be a douchebaggery filled guy.
Yes? Is that enough to keephim off your roster? Me here,
Yes it is. But do youwant to go through Major League Baseball or
sports and you want to line upjust the the arrogant pricks that run around

(33:09):
the locker room that drive that arenut jobs on Twitter and all that.
Those guys there, there's a lotof them. Now he may be,
he may be the lead dog,but there's guys in line with him.
So I'm giving both because to me, I'm with you. It's like I
don't know if I want touch himwith a ten foot poll because or maybe
has he overcome the to the pointof douchebaggery that he wants to fit into

(33:30):
a locker room or is it inhis dnau Either you can't can't get rid
of those spots. No, he'sstill doing it right, Okay, even
in Mexico. Right, So thepoint comes like live vog But you know
what, he wins three straight.Guess what that team that signed him going
to say, right, he's outthere. When I say so, you

(33:51):
give both, I give both.I get why people pining for him because
he's the hell of a pitcher,and I get why you wouldn't but take
the well, he's guilty. Listen, according to what's been decided today.
He's pitching, so he's not behindit, okay, and who the accusations.
I wasn't in the room. Itseems really weird. And if he

(34:13):
did do it, then the dudeshouldn't even be pitching anywhere. But apparently
to those that are making these decisions, he's not. I wouldn't know other
than what I read and see andhear too, right, Yeah, as
just a pitcher. Is the pitchingbetter than the douchebaggery? That's what you
got to ask yourself, since that'swhere we are right now. Is the
pitching more important to you and thewins and losses? Then you just got

(34:35):
a guy who comes to the lockerroom and very few people like I'm sure
that exists on more than one team. Yah. That's what you have to
decide, whether you're the Astros orany other team. I'll tell you what's
going to be a bummer though.If he does sign somewhere else and he
goes on a roll where he's likeseven and one and kick an ass,
you know, you know what,everybody's just say, I smuld have done
it, and there will be regreteverywhere. And it's the same the other

(34:58):
way. If he comes in anddisrupts a club house, everybody's gonna say,
why in the hell would and he'sone in four, why would you
do that? It's the risk thatthat's where the that's where you earn your
money as a front office. Yeah, decisions like this, do they get
you over the top or do theybear you even more? We'll see,
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Salisbury show continues and it no nowyou know. Celtics beat the MAVs and
take a two zero series lead inthe NBA Finals. Get back out to
the phone lines seven one, three, two, two five seven. I
need Let's start with Andy and you'reup first. Good morning, Good morning
guys, You guys, Joey hasto lay up. Yeah, I've talked

(37:15):
to you guys before about sparking.Hey, Tripley, grab him and tell
me his connection is really poor andto give us a shower back. Let's
keep it wrolling with Andrew. Welcomein, Good morning morning. What's happening?

(37:35):
Well, I know y'all talk aboutPresley being having some mental stuff going
on. I would say about Presley, if your heartbroken over your closer job,
suck it up and do the newjob. I mean, it's really
that simple, bingo And if hecan't suck it up, then he needs
to be removed from that role likeMontero was removed from his role last year.

(38:00):
I mean, and if if Spottacan't do that, then maybe he
needs to go. I mean itsounded like after the game yesterday is Spot
is still going to keep throwing Pressleyout there? Uh? And then one
other thing. I am not afan of Trevor Bauer. I would hate
it if he signed here. Butwith your pitching depth as then as it

(38:22):
is, would you be desperate enoughto get him? And would it ever
come to that point. I mean, all he would cost is a little
bit of money instead of having atrade away prospect to get somebody else.
Well, why don't you answer youthe question? You said you don't want
him here? And it's a greatpoint, Andrew, would you job right
right today? You know what wegot, you know the injury situation,

(38:45):
you know who may be coming backand win and possible and if we don't
know, you tell me you saidyou would hate to do it, but
you're the GM. You make thedecision. What are you doing? As
much as I don't like him,I would probably probably first, I'd probably
ask around the players in my clubhouseand it kind of get their take and

(39:07):
if they gave me a we needthe help. As much as I don't
like power, I'd probably take takea chance because you was one more pitch.
You're going to minor league players thataren't ready. What if you had
four of your stars, two ofthem said yes, two said no,
So the decisions back on you.Oh God, that's that. That may

(39:30):
be exactly what you'd be facing,right. Two guys may say yes,
two guys may say no. Iguess it depends on which two stars said
no. So you're you're gonna letyour players make the decision. Well,
I know Alex Pregnant hates Trevor Bauer. So there's there's yeah, say tough

(39:50):
decision, right, Andrew. Iguess it's it's when you're faced with this
a little difficult, is it.So there you go. Good point,
though, man, I appreciate thecall, brother, And there we go
to see we got we got Andy, fire back up, Andy, welcome
in. Yeah, Hey, guys, Joeys spotted. We don't need Trevor
Bauer. The starting pitching has inthe last twenty five games has been good,

(40:14):
has been real good. Your problemis Joey spotted. Two games ago,
they're winning six to one, andthis is how he used his bullpen
a break New through a third ofan inning, Montero to two through two
thirds of an inning, and thenthey bring in Presley in the eighth,

(40:37):
had a good, good, goodeight, and then they put Scott in
in the ninth. They won sixto one. He used four relievers on
a six to one game for forthree innings. You know he doesn't.

(41:04):
It doesn't make sense. And nowlet's look at last night. Do you
know who the two worst gold penpictures you have are right now? Presley
and Hatter. Presley has a fiveforty and who the mad Hatter? The
mad Hatter? Yeah? And Joey, so we got Ray? Who that

(41:29):
gets to the mad Hatter? Did? Did? Uh? That's for joe
He prays for Joey A spotted Imean you got you got Andy, you
got Joey Now, Joey, Ilove you, I love you. Yeah.
Hey, sen Don, if youweren't doing your job good, I'll
call you Salisbury State job. Thankyou, Andy. I want you to

(41:52):
call me Shawnie. I can't dothat, Jo, I'm doing my gig.
Know what you do? You're aclassic, But listen to me.
A brand new has figured out thathe's two point nine to seven Martinez two

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point one two Scott Scott one pointseven six, and he used him to
pitch an in the ninth inning ona six to one game. Now tell
me it takes four relievers to pitchthe innings on a six to one game.

(42:35):
And so what did you do lastnight? He's winning by four runs.
He puts Presley in, he givesup too, and then he puts
the man hatter and he gives upto your worst two pitchers. What the
hell is Joey doing? That's theissue. The man has not had a

(42:58):
good rookie head coach year. Heis terrible in his decision making. And
don't even get me started. Yougot a first basement bat in one thirty
two, You've got breaking bat intwo thirty seven, and they keep him
in the either from the second tothe fourth hole, maybe fifth sometimes.
And then you got Dubon bat intwo ninety seven, who proved himself last

(43:22):
year that he could be a starter, and the guy still gets overlooked.
This is what's wrong with the HoustonAstros. Yes, they had a slow
start the first thirty games, butthe last thirty games. This head coach,
his decisions are killing this team.And I'm not sure if it's from

(43:43):
him or David Brown, but theseguys aren't in Presley and Anne Hatter.
They would not be my eighth toninth pitchers. They're your worst pitchers.
Andy, we got to get tothe top of the hour. We appreciate
it, man, Thanks for thecall, Thanks Andy, Thanks for the

(44:05):
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They take a two zero series leadin the NBA Finals seven seven.
I got few people that have beenwaiting patiently on hole. We appreciate that.
Billy, you're up first. Goodmorning, Welcome in Hey, good
morning, Brion Seen. Uh,I'd like to talk about the way that
Joey Espada is using Priesley. Uhwow, okay, sorry, but uh

(47:32):
you know, as Sean you saidyou nailed it well ago and uh,
I think the previous caller did aswell. That these guys have to do
their jobs very regardless of where theyare, they going to do their jobs.
They're supposed to professionals and they should. But we know the reality is
that some of these guys have acomfort zone. And if you look at
Presley just a couple of games agowhere he got the ninth, he was

(47:53):
the closer. He went in thereboom boom, boom, and he looked
like a different guy, completely different. His focus was there, he was
sharp and it was a different guy. He doesn't focus in the in the
eighth but for some reason, andlast year he didn't focus well in non
safor situations. Now it's I'm makingexcuses for the guy, but it's just

(48:15):
his reality. And you look atthe experiment earlier in the year with Alvarez
Jr. Don didn't hit well inthis in the two hole, all right,
is it? Do you trade Alvarez? Not because he can't hit in
the two hole. No, youput him in a situation where he can,
where he does do well. Presleymay need to be traded, and
I don't think moving to the seventhis just gonna make things worse, and

(48:37):
he's gonna need to be traded.And in July we're going to have a
new new arm out there and he'llbe closing for somebody. It's just the
reality of sports. Some guys theydon't have the mental ability to focus in
other areas where they should be ableto because they're professionals, but they don't.

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And you've got to get him ina situation where they can. And
that's the job. That's the jobof the GM and of the manager.
And I think they're both in abad situation. Our GM and manager a
very bad situation because what do youdo it first, what do you do
at center field? All of asudden, myrus can't hit at all,
So he is in a bad situation. You got to put these guys in
position to excel. You look atwhat the Texans have done with Demiko's done.

(49:22):
He's gotten these guys in positions andplays and they're doing better. A
lot of the same players that we'relosing all the time. Now they're in
position to make plays. That's whatthis team has to do. Does that
mean that Scott a Bray, youhater, needs to be their back of
a little pen. Hey, let'sdo that until you can find a place
to get Presley. But for rightnow, Presley's not your eight thing guy.

(49:44):
He just can't be. Thank youfor the call of Billy. I
mean today he I mean as wesit now. I mean the trend is
that he's been majorly affected by themove. For whatever reason. He's got
a job to do and if itcan't do it, you can't just go
by what he did when he wasin the closure rule because he is.

(50:04):
It's visibly different and he's one hundredpercent correct. And we've been saying it
for a minute now too. Iasked a question before the season started.
Will it affect Oh? No,everything will be fine. They're pros,
sure. But guess what, whetheryou're twenty five, thirty five, or
seventy five, when you feel likeyou've been demoted or moved aside for somebody
else, it doesn't mean you're stillnot there doing your job of getting paid.

(50:28):
But it's like, man, nowyou go from a back I started
to a backup. Even though you'reon the thing, you get the comparison.
What is your first thought? Hethat do wrong? This is uncomfortable.
I feel like I got demoted andyou did. Yeah, see what
happened. It's facts, and hehasn't performed the way that we're used to

(50:50):
him performing. Ronnie, thanks forholding. Good morning, Good morning,
guys. I don't understand the thoughtthat these guys will feel they're being demoted
if I don't call. He's stillgetting his paycheck and they haven't decreased the
amount of money on that paycheck,you know. I mean if they put
Sean, if they put him outon from midnight to sixth instead of six
TRIVIALI will you let him know hisconnection is down a little bit. Let's

(51:15):
talk to Robert. Robert, what'shappening? What's up? Guys? Hey,
I've got a couple of questions.Does I think it's hinted at sometimes
that Presley's upset or is he ishe up? Is it heard that he's
upset about being demoted? Or ishe just more or less uncomfortable? And
then the last caller, the callera few times ago, very passionate guy,

(51:36):
seems like a sharp guy was reallyupset at a spot of Joey's managing
game situations. I just think aspota with all the people that are kind
of in the know that think thatBagwell and Craneer like the puppet Mapster almost

(51:57):
to even Dana Brown into Joey's spotting, I kind of cutting a spot of
his legs out from under him alittle bit, and that affects a lot
in my opinion. So I don'tthink the a spot is his game,
man, is't it? Now?I'm not smart enough. I don't know
enough about baseball. There's a lotof decisions that are made in the game
that I don't even see. Andfor example, the caller was upset at

(52:19):
the use of the bullpen at asix to one score. Well, there's
a lot of things where just bullpenguys need to get working every now and
then. So there's just a lotof things I don't see and understand.
But I do feel like I wasa Bagwell fan and now I'm kind of
I'm kind of getting I'm gotting,I'm kind of getting I don't like the

(52:40):
guy anymore. That's all I gotgot. Thanks, Thanks, Robert Well
to answer the first question, Idon't know. We've never said he's visibly
upset or complain about it. Hehasn't. I have never heard him.
A matter of fact, I've saidquite the opposite. We have. I
don't know. I mean, Robertmight have been talking about a caller he
sees it on top. He wasjust asking, right, I personally have
not seen anywhere he is out complainedabout it out loud. The performance is

(53:02):
the thing that tells me it's beenuncomfortable and it is a demotion. Yes,
he's getting paid. The paycheck didn'tget any less, but you took
out. I mean, that's justit's a fact. If you go from
the four hitter to the nine hitter, what is that? What are they
telling you? You get your gameright and they thought Josh Haden was better

(53:22):
in the closing role. It's prettysimple. But that you're still getting paid.
But Robriyetta, I've never heard Presleydo anything but be a great teammate,
never heard him complain once. Ithink this comes down to pure it
feels in his performance, says EvenDana Brown admitted when I asked him about
if he if a demotion was partof Presley goes. I can see how
a demotion would bother somebody, andthen that's what it is. He got

(53:45):
moved from the ninth closed role ofthe epholl. So there you go.
So that that that's one thing.But as far as you know a spota,
I don't think any of us deepdown know how much a percentage of
responsibility in gamer. I can't amaein a game when you're making decisions that
there's anybody making the decision, butjoe'spot at his bench, coach or is

(54:07):
pitching coach and him. I can'timagine somebody's sending a text down, not
that anybody suggested it, that you'remaking decision that they go through. Okay
in the seventh inning, if thishappens, I want you to put this
guy in that crane Bagwell and DanaBrown are telling Joe Spot to do that.
I don't believe that in game decisionsI think are based sold. They'll
have conversations about it and go overokay if this presents itself, what could

(54:28):
we possibly do here? But ingame decisions that's made by the manager period.
As far as what they talk aboutbefore and say, if it gets
to the eighth inning and we're upa run, Presley's got a pitch for
us, and Joe's making the decisionbased on pressure from somebody else. Well,
then then then that's something that they'regoing to have to deal with.
But I don't see any way wherein game decisions that Joe a spot his

(54:49):
hands are tied about who he putsin in the fifth inning? Do you
no? In game? No?I think maybe if somebody's telling them beforehand,
hey, it started, we've goingto break you down there bringing back
we need him to play. Ican see how that would happen. Yeah,
I can. But the end gamedecisions are for the most part,
I would believe Ron Joe spot right. I agree. And the decisions that
they make going into those I thinkthat. And Dana Brown's admitted they have

(55:13):
meetings and talk about this stuff often. But in the third inning, whether
to pull a pitcher out or not, I don't think they're checking with Jeff
Bagwell or Dana Brown whether to pullthem out or not. This organization could
not have success. No organization canliving like that. So I think it's
fascinating. You know what's going tohappen. The bottom line is it gets

(55:34):
right down to it. At timesthey've underperformed. They've gotten better starting pitching
lately over the last fifteen to twentytwenty five starts. And the problem is
the consistency of putting every part ofthe game together at once for an extended
amount of time, whatever reason thatis. And none of us have all
the answers, because if we did, we hell, then I think they're
smart enough. People say, well, didn't do it this way. But

(55:54):
they're making decisions based on what theythink they see and maybe money pressure.
But I don't believe for a secondand the fifth inning that Joe spot is
making decisions based on somebody upstairs tellinghim what to do. Yeah, I
don't believe it's that big a puppetmaster thing. I don't believe that at
all. I think in game decisionsare one hundred percent on Joe Spot.
Well, we've seen him put onehundred percent on the guy before him,

(56:15):
and then the guy before him.I don't think it's any different here.
I don't either. Let's get tothe steak out next on Sports Talk seven
ninety. Let's go. This isthe Sewan Salisbury Show. All right,
Sean, what are you hearing outthere now? The Salsbury's Steakout. Salsbury's

(56:36):
Takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.It's time for the steakout here on the
Sean Salisbury Show, Sean Bryn andTripley Astros and Giants up in San Francisco.
Tonight eight forty five pm is thefirst pitch seven to thirty on Deck
Show right here on seven nine yearown for Astros Baseball Steve Sparks. At
eight thirty this morning, Celtics beatthe MAVs take a two zero series lead

(56:59):
in the NBA Finals. Since Ronniegave us a shower back, so let's
see if the connection is good.Ronnie, good morning, I hope so,
guys, all right, two thingsquickly and then a good joke for
you. Pressley. Didn't he havea period of time earlier on in the

(57:20):
season when he missed a few daysbecause of a back pain or injury,
I won't say injury, And I'mjust wondering if that was the case,
if it's still bothering him. Youknow, the Astros aren't always revealing about
things that are going on with people. And there was one movie that that
one movie moved that spot I madeyesterday and even Barts and Ford. I

(57:45):
won't say they criticized it, butthey were curious about it. When Martinez
came in and was pitching, andI believe Taylor Ward was the next batter,
he pulled Martinez in the middle ofthe inning and put Montero in because
they said, well, Montero hasa better fastball than Martinez, and they

(58:07):
know that Ward was or the guywhoever was batting was going to have trouble
with the fastball. But he threwhim fastball and got ahead in account and
then threw him a change up andthe guy got a hit. And they
were questioning, well, why didyou pull one guy if the other guy
was going to throw him a changeup? So, you know, those
kinds of things I don't understand.And as far as steaks and steaks out,
steakhouts go, Sean, I loveyour program and you guys are great.

(58:31):
I listen to you almost all dayevery day. But I'll take a
t bone or a ribi over aSalisbury any day of the week. I
will take a Salisbury over a MichaelBerry any day of the week. Well,
yes, how's that take that?Michael? All right? I love
me some Michael Berry, but Iget Will you'll take me over Michael Berry

(58:52):
right now? Right? Yeah?I would? Yeah, sure would.
I love me some Michael Berry though, Yeah, I mean, now appreciate
how you take. He'll take ata bone and a what a ribi over
a Salisbury steak? Guess what,Ronnie? So will I? But listen,
is there anything better slapping that Swanson'sin the microwave? The potatoes,

(59:16):
The mashed potatoes are so hot,and then the dark gravy with a little
mushroom in it on top of theSalisbury steak from a Swanson's dinner You've cooked
in about two minutes and thirty seconds, and you take a bite of the
mashed potatoes first, and it burnsa roof of your mouth, and so
you can't taste the salisbury steak anyway, because your taste buds are different.
How about that? How many seeyou guys know nothing about a Swanson's Salisbury

(59:37):
steak dinner? No, but Iknow about a kid cuisine about the same
thing. Yeah, hungry man alwayscollege. I always liked it too.
When they put pudding and you putin the microwave and the pudding was cooked
for you tooah yeah, no,And then the carrots and the and the
green beans together mixed in Salisbury steak. Now, listen, some salisbury steak

(59:59):
if you want to go on thewhich it is you listen. If you
grew up on the cheap like afamily, you know it was that was
some good eating. And a ribbiand a t bone were once every couple
of months because that was that waswe get a special night, Right,
Ronnie, I'm with you one hundredpercent, winning doubt. You don't even
need to apologize for that. I'vetaken a I've taken salisbury steak third as

(01:00:22):
well. I'm going rib by at bone long before and about eight other
steaks before I'm taking the Salisbury steak. But if you're going on the cheap,
with some good gravy smother it andsome some other stuff, you can
cover up maybe cover up a littlesalisbury steak. Maybe yep. But it's
a meat and hardy Okay, sois the salisbury steak. Yeah, oh

(01:00:43):
okay, he's right though, don'tever picked salisbury steak first. But you
know, every now and again it'llhit it hits different. Yeah, literally,
it'll hit you different, it will. I'd rather have a Salisbury steak
over a meat loaf though, well, don't let your meat loaf exactly right,
Yeah, dude, really you takeSalisbury take over a good, good
homemade meat loaf. Yeah, probablyreally Yeah, man, I'll tell you

(01:01:06):
what it might be a confidence willtake here for it. It might be
a little hot, just saying,man, I appreciate your your commitment to
Salisbury' steak over meat loaf. Youjust can't let your meat loaf. You
can't, No, you sure can't. Speaking of a meat called Salisbury steak,
how is that called steak? Idon't even I have no idea that
there's nothing about it. It's nota steak, No, it sure is.
No, it's closer to ground beef. That's around beef. Thank you,

(01:01:28):
good night. Speaking of meat andmeat loaf, Ryan Press meat,
Ryan Press, He asked Ronnie askedby Ryan Pressy he did he was had
some lower half soreness. So hehad a week back. That was in
early May. Speaking, he hada week back. When did he get
it? About a week back?About a week back to all behind him?
Now, I hope so clearly it'snot what happened to us. I

(01:01:51):
don't know. So Monday that we'refired up dealing with soreness in lower half?
Then why are you running him outthere? I was back in May,
Oh comes over a month? Wasit still there? Is it?
Is it a lingering or is everythinggood? No, because we're not going
to label that as an excuse.He is just not executing right. So
the vilo we like to call itvello villo has been ninety six ninety five

(01:02:13):
ninety six guy right ish, Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You can ramp up there, asthey say, yeah, he can touch
it. Yeah, he can rampit up to ninety four ninety five ninety
six. But uh, it didn'tmatter if you're looking for a different locale
right now? Yeah, I needlocal you just are you just giving us
nicknames this whole segment? Why wouldn'tI Why wouldn't we got Joey a spot

(01:02:35):
on joe We that's the first thisyear a guy and he went with the
Joey a spot of card like thisweekend though, Yeah, it was like
this weekend. They did still sixand a half out. There were some
things to like, and I Fromberwas great, Hunter Brown was solid.

(01:02:55):
Verlander grinds. It's just the thethe the walks, gotta temper those.
I thought Fromber looked like an acethat we have expected I did. I
thought he was And Fromber's been prettydamn good. Now what two three,
four starts in a row, right, huh? He's rolling along pretty good
and he mowed the Angels down.So some things to like. But there

(01:03:16):
is some stuff that's still concerns you. And we've hit it hard this morning,
and that's the eighth inning situation andinjuries piled up, and some of
them with the Kyle Tucker on Il and Bregman's day to day, you
still don't like them missing time youneed them. Both have been extremely durable
in their careers. And when itcomes down to where the Astros are right

(01:03:37):
now, they're still below five hundredsix games, and the way that the
eighth inning goes for the Astros isnot going to get that back to five
hundred, not at this stage nowright now. Have got to be more
consistent there, and I might haveto think outside the box a little bit
with this, you know what I'msaying. Yeah, so who pitches the
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dot com. The Shawn Salisbury Showcontinues, Maybe they're all hard? Are
they EASi or hard? What doyou think most questions you could ask easy
to answer hard? I would sayfor the most part, they're pretty easy.

(01:05:32):
I would agree, in and outof sports. And so one question
I have is, you know,I'm pretty upset that neither you nor Triple
E laughed at my funny meme thatI sent you guys on Saturday. What's
your excuse? Emmanuel? Did Inot respond? Are you talking about the
one? Yeah? I didn't saynothing. What do you mean, yo?
You guys are on your phone twentyfour to seven? Yes, you

(01:05:53):
that's not true. That's not true. Around on Saturday sending memes. We're
not sorority system. You know whatwe are thoughts? Go ahead say and
yeah, go ahead, I'll tellyou we're family. Yeah. Now,
now look at the mean. Iknow Universal Universal with with Universal report literally

(01:06:17):
wants a fast and furious and drasticJurassica World crossover. That's is that true?
Yeah, don't do it. Sothen there's a picture of Dom Touretto.
Well you know what these dinosaurs can'tstop? Yeah, easy answer.
Would you sit that Saturday? ASaturday? Yeah? Well guess what at

(01:06:38):
two thirty on a Saturday, Iwas hitting in the pig. Yeah,
dude, I'm not I'm one thingI'm not doing. I told you this
from Friday, when we're off theair normally until I get here Sunday morning.
Monday morning. My phone sits onmy office desk and rarely gets used.
Yeah, rarely gets used. AndI but I will come clean.

(01:06:58):
I see it. I know,I did see it all Friday. Huh.
And I actually I said it onSaturday, Saturday to thirty, I
mean Saturday, Yes, Saturday,at two thirty afternight, I did see
it. But you know what Iactually thought, I put the laughing with
the tears emoji. Yes, Ithought I responded in your head, I
did, and I didn't. AndI didn't respond because I thought, because

(01:07:18):
I actually when you said it thefirst day I said to myself was family.
I did. I did, becausethat's it. So it was clever,
my bad. You were being youwarn seriously regarded. No one of
the demoted. You were devoted.You still love you? What's yours?
Yeah, I'm sorry, man,I was busy. I don't do this.

(01:07:39):
I don't do it. I neverI was busy for you. I
just don't. I don't look atmy phone, no U over the weekend.
So I when I the best pitchat all when I coached during the
weekends. As I'm very rarely,I stay away from social media es.
I so like on Sunday evenings,when I get done coaching in early Monday
mornings, I'm scrolling through Twitter tosee, uh, how everybody's feeling about
the astros. Which missed? Yeah, what I missed because I get away

(01:08:01):
from my phone on the weekends.It's fantastic. It's great, gives you
a little reset. But uh,yeah, I look back to Wednesday,
Wednesday, past week. Yeah,that I sent you a message oh never
mind, Yeah, I responded.I'm just trying to find what was you
didn't but I can't, so justto rub it back in your face,
I can't, all right. Butbut see it wasn't on that I sent

(01:08:23):
you. Yours was sent through ourgroup text as opposed to the individual.
The individual when you respond, andI would have because I'm like, okay,
somebody needs something. No, Ijust when somebody responds with the on
our group text over the week,and I'm assuming on our Salisbury show thing
it's going to be something like this, it's gonna be something. I responded.
But my response was to myself saidfamily, Yeah, so it hit,
it hit. Yeah. Now maybemaybe we can next week can focus

(01:08:46):
on you accepting my friend request onFacebook. And it's only been up for
like, have you said one ofthose? Yes, it's literally bad.
I got to come clean about that. You probably that's and and and I
don't mean that in that way.You know, what is it when you
get to know five, you openit up to where you can have ten
thousand of them twenty Yeah, Ihaven't done that yet, so sometimes if
you're tapped out with that, andbecause I've got dude, I've got buddies,

(01:09:10):
somebody that I've noted since Hey,soals when you get accept body said,
I didn't know it was in there, so i'd have to scroll.
I mean, I put your namein. I will do that, you
know what I mean? A clearsomebody that I haven't talked to in forty
seven years. Put you to go. It's not like I stared to say,
I think I'm yes, it's mybad. Dude. Trey on Twitter

(01:09:30):
says we need a fast and furiousand gone to sixty seconds crossover Dom Toretto
Steels eleanor you know the car thatI'll lose? Yeah, Nick Cage so
Nicky Cage, h Angeline and JoeLee, Bobby Devall. What if there's
one? Is there anybody that's inboth? If there was, how do
you double down on that? Here'sthe cross what is this? Uh n

(01:09:53):
cis and and uh, what's theother one n cis, And what's the
one with criminal Minds? N cisCriminal Minds cross over and bring back h
Horatio. Yeah, could do that. The nn cis Miami, right.
Yeah, you probably probably somehow throwingLaw and Order restvue in there too,

(01:10:15):
because there is that yeah, thetrifecta. Yeah, because there is a
the guy who used to be theon n CIS Miami, one of H's
guys is now on Criminal Minds.Yeah, Criminal Minds. That's right,
so they have had the crossover man. Or you could go on n CIS
Vegas and get the guy from thatseventies show What's that kids? Isn't that?

(01:10:36):
What's the is? Was he inthat seventies show? Who's now on?
I think n C I S Vegas? Roll through the list? Give
me the guy's names? Is itsm William Peterson? No, William Peterson's
was the lead on the original nC I S Vegas. Give me that
seventy show guys, or the orthe new cast on n CIS Vegas.

(01:11:00):
Who's in that? You've got Kenneththink no, wait, that's uh come
on, where's it at? Okay, here we go. Wilmer Valderama?
Is there is he on? Thereis that name on there? That guys
pulled that right out of my well. He was on that seventies show,
but he is not on Las Vegas. I think you might be wrong.
I'm looking at it. Okay,I got will Wilmer Valdorama. You sure

(01:11:24):
at some point he's never been onn C. I s I think if
I'm wrong Wilmer Valdorama, am Iright? Yeah? And yeah, yeah,
yeah, okay, just just youknow, don't question the Sean.
Oh yeah, the per se thereyou go. The cross is big though,
because you know what it all comesdown to, and he's not on

(01:11:45):
a cast list, so you know, you know it all comes down down
to, Yeah, it does,really does. So yeah it does,
triple and I owe you an apologizesall right, validated, but about it
triple. He was probably hanging outthere. Your feelings hurt? No,
uh, not at all. Iknew you probably got you. Guys aren't
gonna respond, And then I plannedto bring it up here on air.

(01:12:05):
Oh sell it sell out? Yeah, pretty good, I got you.
That's pretty cool. Yeah, Idon't want to keep it in the clubhouse.
Thanks a lot, man, Iappreciate. That's so awesome. Was
probably hanging out with his Latina friend. I cannot confirm nord denial doing Saturday.
Ye. Yeah, I cannot confirmnor deny. You're probably playing two
k No. He might have been. He might have been latin it up,

(01:12:27):
dude. I'll tell you. Iwas on the prospects. I figured
out the method. You did figuredout the method? What is it?
Sell it out? Let's go whatis it? I'm gonna tell you guys
during break, during breaking, okay, to share with you. You don't
want to give out any free giveout the sauce. Yeah, you gotta
go on there, charge them tomake them subscribe. But but dog,
one thing you don't want to dois get lost in the sauce. Facts.

(01:12:50):
Yeah, you can't get lost inthe sauce. Are the kids still
saying sauce? Yes? They areabout the streets, Yes, the streets
still. Yeah, everybody is Okay, everybody's saying that you can't get lost
in the sauso. You know whatI'm saying. Hmmm interesting. It's good
advice though, man, Yeah,I just cannot stay lost in the sauce.
Check that out, man. Wow, And that all started because you

(01:13:12):
guys didn't want to text me back. It's fine, though, but we
got much though, We've got alot of respect. Oh yeah, I
know, I know. All right, let's get back to these astros who
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Let's talk to Brandon first and we'llget to Roger. Hello, Brandon,
Good morning, Brian, How areyou guys? How was your weekend?

(01:15:25):
It was great? Band. Sorry, we have three guys coming to trim
the trees. Gotta get those treestrim brother, what's going on? Trim
them up. Yeah, what's onyour mind? Brandon? Yeah, I'm
t I'm terriff boring the three again. I'm sick of it. What needs

(01:15:53):
done? What do we got todo to stop that? Hits? Hits?
That's makes a great point, man, clutch shits tough one yesterday when
it came to closing out the gamewith the back the Presley and hater huh
yeah uh sean, yes, sir, Edny and news of number party talker

(01:16:20):
eat ten day, I l forKyle Tucker. Brandon, Tucker's out for
ten days, okay, and here'spitching tonight for Fencer. Okay, I
was thinking I was wondering. Okay, yeping there in San Francisco tonight,
buddy, So it'll be a lategame. We appreciate you and thank you
for checking in on a Monday.Have a great week. I will.
Thanks. Thanks Brandon. All right, and let's talk to Roger. What's

(01:16:43):
up, Roger? Well, let'sI got doing everything? Okay, okay,
always man, you bet all right, man, So just check this
out for a second. So it'salready been three starts as flowers Tuh as
a catcher, so obviously there's somekind of riff between he and DZ and

(01:17:04):
you know, how many games dowe have the season? How many?
How many games? Ninety something gamesleft? Kind of think that our showers
are what they are. That doesn'tmean we still can't win this week ass
division, but we kind of knowwhat we are we are. You know,
we got this way through the playersnumber one underachieving, uh two injury

(01:17:24):
of course, and three you know, just you know, all all these
all these things come together kind ofmake a like a perfect storm of things
that happened while the seasons turn upthe way it is, but you can
get a pretty good haul for Farmerbecause I don't know if I would have
a guy on my team that wouldjust go rogue like that, because he's

(01:17:46):
you know, having some kind ofsome kind of beef with the catcher and
he just totally just tanks the game, which is what it did. Tie
the game. Roger, I don'tthink there's a rift between him and Daz
fromer is just a weird cat andwent off the went off the page a
couple of starts. Aga. Idon't think it's part where I don't think
they're like having some where they're talking, right. Maybe maybe he just pitches

(01:18:09):
better with one. But I don'tthink it's a I don't think it's a
battle at any rate. I justthink that the season is what it is.
I think we should heear you know, they should jeer it for next
year, you know, not notsaying that not to be competitive, but
I think if you start doing thenecessary work now and you know, maybe

(01:18:30):
uh, put put the message outthere that you know, start off,
start off fast, you know,and you know, just leave us put
a message there and just kind oflike get your ducks in a row for
next year. Uh, you know, it's still try to win to the
vision. Of course, it's thereto get. But I would just start

(01:18:50):
gearing up Roger and go ahead.No, No, that's it. I
just that's kind of like what Ihad in mind. Just let let me
ask you this. How do youdo that? And I know you're one
of our favorites and regulars here,how do you how do you gear up
for next year while trying to winthe Well, hang on a second,

(01:19:11):
while trying to win the division.So if you win the division, don't
you have a legitimately if you winthe division, wouldn't that tell you that
there's no reason to gear up fornext year that if you win the division,
you're sitting there with a chance towin a World Series. So would
take well if they now think aboutthis, though, you said gear up
to win the division. They aresix and a half games out of first

(01:19:32):
place and they're what's six or sevengames under five hundred. If they go
on and win the division from here, what will that tell you? That's
that would be That would be atwelve and a half game turnaround with the
Mariners and them, I mean,they'd flew, So that would tell you
they're playing good baseball. If theygo on and win the division like you
want them to, that would tellyou they have a chance. Now listen,

(01:19:54):
all you can do is get inthe tournament, right, So if
they win the division, you don'tthink they have a chance. Who's the
The Yankees are really good, butin baltimore's really good. Once you get
in with this team's postseason, Moxie, you at least got a chance.
I'll fight a chance. I understandlook into the future. But if you're
gonna do that, I think it'shard to be both think about next year

(01:20:14):
while playing your ass off. Thatwould mean, well, if I want
to win the division. But I'mthinking about next year. Am I looking
to move somebody at the trade deadline? Am I looking to get somebody?
So to me, if you winthe division, it tells me you're playing
good baseball, and you got tothink about twenty twenty four. I don't
think twenty twenty four is out ofthe question yet, even though this is
by far, I mean, notby any stretch of the imagination, the
best baseball team we've seen the lastseven years. Nah, I mean yeah,

(01:20:39):
but bigeria depredation on me, like, you know, finding out who's
the leader in the office first ofall, finding out, you know,
see what Joe spot has got sesee what he's see what give him a
grade? You know what he's done. Right now, I'm giving Michael maybe
a C. You know, seewhat kind of leader he is, See

(01:21:00):
what kind of decision makers. He'snot very good with the picture staff.
But like I get a ghost tounder achievement. You know, a lot
of these guys were good last year, and I pressed he's never going to
get over his eighth metal block becauseI kind of think that's just what it
is. He just can't get overhimself. So, you know, just
stuff like that. So I justthink I just think the teams, you

(01:21:25):
know, needs to find out whoit is. Every team's different, right,
would you would do you have abetter idea if they go win the
division? About Joe A spotted though, would we think that he's he's I
think he's learning. I think he'slearning as he goes along. I think
he I think he's learning as hegoes along. And you know, a
trial and error man, we're allgoing through it and anything with any bla

(01:21:46):
blah life. So I just thinkthat it would have been better to get
a guy manager and had a littlebit more spirits. Sure, and I
you know, the hindsight twenty twentyI can always is. So you know,
I just really think you can startremoving some of the problems. Uh,
the corner of the infielders, man, that's embarrassment. That's an embarrassment.

(01:22:10):
I mean, he cannot think thatyou're gonna go and win anything anything
else into the vision. If yougot two quarter infolds, it can't hit
two hundred. It's just it's justthe way it is. I mean,
Bergmans turned it on, you know, Alvarez has turned it on a little
bit. I mean, but youknow, it's just is it gonna be
enough? Who knows. I justI just state that maybe if you get

(01:22:31):
if you can get a haul forfrom or start there, because you know,
like you said, he's just youknow, he just hit her,
miss man. And I just reallythink that now that he's got some of
the would have a nice little groovegoing on, maybe you can you know,
call around and see if you youknow, but and then and they
just from there. But that's allI had. Guys, appreciate it.

(01:22:53):
I appreciate Roger. We got againstthe top of the hour. All right,
are you? Thank you? Let'sget into the eight o'clock we'll continue
the discussion about the Houston Naturals andwe'll take your calls. Seven one,
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(01:25:05):
plenty more to get to on thephone line, so let's keep a crisp
al welcome in. Hey, what'sgoing on, guys, ain't too much
shout out tomorrows Uh. I justthink man I said in a while back.
I've just been laying in the cuts, Brian, or sitting back just

(01:25:26):
enjoying the game. Uh. It'scool. Uh if we just have one
of them seasons, it happens tothe best of us. Uh, and
we retool from now. It's justthat in between the lines of the baseball.
This team right here had been througha lot. Take considering with what
Andrey and the change of the manager. That's the you know left and you

(01:25:50):
know, you plug in some newguy, the new positions, and you
know injury bugs, you know hasplayed a big party and all that.
But you know, I just seethat, you know, accountability. We
need to start holding a lot ofthe players with the name on the judgy
account of business, justin very lyning. The first of all, you don't
give up four runs and Angel Idon't care what happened. He should have

(01:26:11):
pitched better, and it's okay,you need to, you know, say
you need to pitch better. Thathelps the other guys as well as Hater,
I don't care what happened you theclothes. You gave two one shot,
regardless of what happened with Press.Let all that. It is not
you still you ninety five million dollarman. You know you can't go out
like that. We're in the senseof urgency. We need to win.
So that's inexcusable for him too,because if brave Up can get it,

(01:26:33):
Hater and very Landy can get it. He opened it and he closed and
too many runs gave up. Butanyway, shout out to my strokes,
y'all ever go appreciate that, Christo the point? Yep, Hey,
where's that? Where's Tomas? Whataccountability is? Where's Tom? Downtown?
Tommy? Tommy? I wonder ifhe's on the vacation well hiatus? Yeah

(01:26:57):
Tom? We missed Tom a littlebit here. Well we miss him a
lot. I haven't heard its beenabout two weeks since time's come on more
than that? Really? Yeah?Is he's almost I think he's been more
like a month? Is he?Somebody tells Tom's okay? I hope he
is, because even when he's frustrated, he'll come on here fired up.
Yeah, he knows we love him, And I just wonder is he had
is he? Is he on thelike a travel or business or what with

(01:27:19):
his Remember he doesn't he go ona golf trip too with his buddies?
Doesn't he do that? Sometimes?Yeah? But it's been it's Tom.
Where the hell are Yeah? Whereyou're at? Tom? I hope he's
okay? Yeah? Same. Ialways love our keeps. Yeah. Yeah,
let's talk to Vince. What's happeningto Vince? Hello? Yes,
I want to talk about leadership onthe team. I'm a firm believer that

(01:27:40):
you play the way you're coached ormanaged. And I don't see any leadership
there. And uh, who arethe leaders in the clubroom. I'm talking
about the players, because there's nobodythere. I mean, as far as
I'm concerned, the two leaders thatwere there were Maldonado, which to me
was a thug leader, which Ilove. And then you got Uncle Bradley,
which to me was Michael corleone ofthe the team. They have nobody

(01:28:00):
inside the club room who talks tohim. I mean, what's going on?
Thank you, Vince for the call. I and you did lose two
leaders. And Dusty was a hadhis leadership been around baseball in a long
time. You know, a rookiemanager who's been buddies and stuff with the

(01:28:20):
teammates. I mean his teammates becausehe works in a different capacities, never
the one. You know, whenyou're the assistant and the bench coach,
it falls on the manager and youyou're basically kind of a relationship builder,
right, and a good teacher,don't mist understand me. Relationship builder.
Now that he's that guy, youknow, establishing that leadership is hard to
do immediately it takes time as faras the players go. I'll be honest

(01:28:44):
with you. When I asked DanaBrown that who the guy was that had
to step do his thing, itwas Alex Bregman that was mentioned. Who's
the voice? You mean the CarlosCarea, the Maldonado, the Brantley in
the locker room. There's different thelead. There's yellers and screamers. There's
example setters, there's guys who doit behind closed doors. There's guys who

(01:29:06):
are animated. There's different ways tolead. But a leader is not It's
not what he does to make himbetter, it's what he does to make
everybody else better. I don't knowwhere the voice is. I don't know
who. I'm not saying they don'thave one. But maybe it's a good
question for Steve today, if there'ssomething to be said where the bucks stops

(01:29:30):
here, who is that guy?Maybe Steve gets his answer. I'm asking
him, yeah, because I don't, I can, from my perspective kind
of get a feel for I almostfeel like Bregman's being around Altuve is more
of the fun, loving guy whojust goes out there and plays. I
don't yet, but when Al Tuovetalks, I would imagine people listen because
he doesn't seem like a you know, grab you by the nap of the

(01:29:54):
neck type of guy. Does thatmake sense? But he's so well respected.
Verlander's been in the league a longtime, not a lifelong astro,
but has earned enough respect in baseballfor if he talks, it's probably you
should probably take notice. But Idon't know who the daily voice is or
if you even need one. Idon't know. Some places you do need
it. Everybody's told me since I'vebeen here, this clubhouse controls it to

(01:30:16):
police. Is itself takes care ofitself. If that's the case, then
who's who is that guy or guys? Some places have too many voices,
some places don't have enough. Idon't know. I don't think a Joe
aspot for me. My vantage pointis that voice for them. And I
always think you have to have aplayer that polices a clubhouse too. I
do you do? I believe that? Yeah, so it's a good question.

(01:30:40):
My whole thing is when it's acome to Jesus, not a team
meeting. Screw team clubhouse meetings.Those are tired. They once in a
while, they work most of all, it's just what do you do to
different and listen, when you gottwenty five plus dudes in a clubhouse,
counting coaches and manager, it isincumbent upon You can't all of it don't
respond the same way. That's partof the leadership recognizing how guys respond.

(01:31:03):
I would imagine Kyle Tucker responds differentlythan than Yiner Diaz does. So I
don't. I don't know who thevoice is. I really don't. And
whoever that is, maybe Steve Sparkscan help us. But when it is
nut cutting time, who's the guythat if you needed someone to create a
little bit of disruption in the clubhouse, who is it? Disruption in a

(01:31:26):
good way I'm talking about? Yeah, I mean, I think with the
leadership aspect with Alt Maldonado, withoutMichael Branley and of course Dust, he
brought the leadership that we have discussedit so many times. I've discussed so
many different times. I mean,it's just like Ronald Reagan said, Sean,
the greatest leader is not necessarily theone who does the greatest things.
He is the one that gets thepeople to do the greatest things. I

(01:31:48):
mean, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know exactly what you
mean. I know exactly what that'sRon Reagan, Ron Reagan. Yeah,
you like that Triviley, You calledhim Ron kind of tough, called him
Ron. I was kind of smoothtoo, Reagan. Yeah, damn yep.

(01:32:10):
Well don't you just call him RonnieReagan, Ronnie Reagan. We can
do that too, R R Rand R. You know what I mean.
We can call Gary Gary, butjust don't call him what just don't
call him late for dinner Gary?Good morning? Hey guys, what's clapping
in man? Quick question? Yesterdayafter that Cabbage went for that uh pater
long ball that he threw out,what was uh what was the spot A

(01:32:33):
chirping about at the end, becauseI was trying to figure out was there
did the runners on first get crossedup or Yeah? So it was a
close It was close to where therunner almost ran past the other runner,
but they you know from all thecam wrangles, he did not. They
didn't touch each other or anything likethat either. So and then I think

(01:32:56):
they were also checking to see ifthere might have been fan interference or something
like that, just trying anything andeverything to try to get uh some kind
of call because Cabbage made a hellof an effort, had the ball secure
and hit that railing boom ball popsout ball game? Yeah, okay,
because that was the previous caller wastalking about leadership in the clubhouse and you
know, kind of like the toadsbeing set by the manager. But I

(01:33:17):
was just you know, seeing aspot out there and it looks like he
was giving them an earful Yeah.Yeah, I suit you guys thoughts on
that, but hey, man,I appreciate it. Good luck to the
shows this next series. Thank you, Gary, appreciate the call. What
kind of dance do you think TreyCabbage would have done if he made the
play the gritty no dig deep herenow hold on, it's some kind of

(01:33:45):
vegetable or fruit joke. No,yes, oh Trey Cabbage? Would you
have done the cabbage patch? Thankyou? Thank you? What would you
have done if he makes the catches, starts patching, he comes and it
goes on cabbage patch on him?You might have that? Would winning you
get? Some people say, man, look at that new dance. Hey

(01:34:11):
Randy, thanks for holding Good morningGordon. Guys. Hey, I have
to agree with Al on that thatlast call. I mean, you know,
We're so used to winning and andlast year just kind of backing in
the playoffs, and you know,it just might not happen this year.
It seems like we go two stepsforward and three steps back, and uh,

(01:34:31):
you just kind of got it.If you're a fan, you just
kind of got to look at itthat way and say, look, you
know it's just not going to beour year. But let's see what Dana
Brown can do after the All Starbreak, are in the offseason and go
get yourself a good first baseman andyou got global pedo in here going to
be a start and outfielder. Mostlikely, you could probably trade McCormick and
you know, maybe somebody else andand get you a good player. Will

(01:34:56):
Wagner, I think, is goingto come up and be our third basement
next year. I think is onthe Gaya plan and he's going to go
wherever he can get the most money. And that's fine, but you got
Will Wagner down there. It wascrushing it last year and he's pushing it
again this year. I think he'syour next our basement. So think if
you're a fan, kind of lookat it like that, and hey,
if you get into playoffs, thisyear, then wow, you know we

(01:35:18):
got in and we really didn't expectto kind of like the Texans last year.
You know, you weren't expecting theyear they had. But if he's
kind of got to start looking atit that way. As far as they
were lovers, and when Presley camein the other night in the ninth and
closed out that game, if youwatched him, to me, he looked
like a different guy. His demeanorwas different. He looked comfortable, he

(01:35:42):
was in control. I mean,slap him and Hater, you know,
for a week or two, andI don't think Hater would have a problem
with it. And let's see whathappens. You know, it just might
all be up in the head onPresley and well you got to lose.
John, have a good day.Thank you, Randy, And I think
Andrew. When it comes to afan base now, players are always going
to have different expectations. If you'redon't expect anything, disappointments less, you

(01:36:09):
know what I mean, lower theI mean, if you lower your expectations,
it won't keep you awake at night. That doesn't mean you don't root
for them to go win and doit because they're capable. I mean,
we're still six and a half outhere in Houston with the ninety plus games
to go, so obviously there's alot of baseball. But we can't keep
saying there's still got to be adjustment, because I do agree with when Roger
called and he said, maybe we'reat the point where they are who they

(01:36:29):
are and you can still, youknow, win. I think it was
Roger who said that. And youat this point in time, you know
who you are, but now youmake a few adjustments and try to go
on a run. So yeah,I just think that it's like anything in
life, less expectation, less disappointment. But the players are not going to
change their expectations. They think they'rethe best team in the American League,
right They're not playing like it,but they think they're now. They're loaded

(01:36:50):
with talent, but there's a lotof things that are going to have to
change for them. When I saychange adjust I guess I should say for
them to get where they want togo. Yeah, it's execution, man,
That's what it comes down to.All the stuff we talk about,
it's simply hit it, pitch it, and field it. Right. I
know it sounds so cliche and elementary, but the best blocking, tackling and

(01:37:12):
teams in the league and a quarterbackwho can deliver the ball under pressure,
you'll win most of the time.You'll have a chance most of the time.
Yeah, no different in baseball.Let's take a look at the Al
West after an action packed week,and where do the Astros stand. That's
next on sports Stock seven to eighty. The Jean Salisbury Show continues. Mariners

(01:37:35):
one yesterday, Rangers won, yesterday, Astros lost, Oakland lost, and
obviously the Angels won as well.The Astros are six and a half back.
Oh the Seattle Mariners, they arethirty seven and thirty, The Rangers
are thirty one and thirty four,and the Astros at thirty and thirty six.
The Mariners have let's see one sixout of their last ten. They're

(01:37:59):
six and four. Rangers are fiveand five, Astros six and four in
their last ten as well. Sothe division is still right there. But
like we said to start the show, when you have an opportunity to sweep,
you got to take full advantage ofthat and win those games. Because
you are still six games under fivehundred, you're six and a half back,
and you got to make things happenand win those games to secure those

(01:38:21):
sweeps. The Yankees beat the Dodgersyesterday. It's a hell of a series.
They are eight and two in theirlast ten. Baltimore Orioles, this
is over in the AO East.Baltimore Orioles are seven and three in their
last ten. They won three ina row. They're forty two and twenty
two seven one to three, twopoint two five seven ninety is the number
to join. Cleveland Guardians still winningthe AL Central forty two and twenty two.

(01:38:45):
Kansas City Royals at thirty nine andtwenty seven. That's a pretty competitive
division right now. In baseball,let's talk to go out to Naedville,
talk to John. What's happening toJohn? Hey, guys, y'a today?
Hey doing great? Thank you goodgood Pardner this morning, you know,
going to the office, get everythingrolling, get my computer on,

(01:39:06):
click on my my uh my web, get the radio going, get y'all
show going, and everything I lookon there. And on your page you
said something about Jeff Blum and thingsjust not going right just yet or something
like that on the website page.You know, they're just things aren't driving
yet, hitting's not right. Yetit's coming. Then yesterday during the game,

(01:39:31):
Dana Brown was on the telecast watchingit on TV, and sure enough
there's a pray you sitting up there, Batton. Oh, well, it's
coming coming, his time's coming,give it time. I'm gonna go back
to a few years ago when thisman walked into Houston and got on seven

(01:39:55):
ninety body. Name is Sean Salisbury, and I'm gonna give day Brown a
little bit of advice and showing I'dlike for you pass the long come with.
Don't piss down our leg and tellus it's raining when it's not,
because pray you ain't gonna do it. How much more time we would need
to give this line up? Peopleneed to accept to what they are this

(01:40:18):
year. This is what they are. I've accepted it. When Presley comes
in, when a comes in,if they out of an inning, I'm
shocked. If they don't give upa run, I'm shocked. So John,
John, So you don't want youdon't want someone to pee on your
leg and say it's rain, oris that pee in your face and say

(01:40:39):
it's rain. You can use eithera lot of times. Peeing your leg
like in your shower, you wouldgot but you're not getting rained on in
your shower, So I say,pe in your face a little more blatant.
Yeah, okay, okay, okay, you know, don't don't stand
around, don't turn around and pissinto a ninety an hour win bingo.
Yeah there, that's a little bitbetter. Yeah, okay, all right,

(01:41:00):
on the same page now, andthen tell me it's rain right,
because that's clearly urine. Yeah,David Brown's full of you know what I
mean, everybody, And you knowI like listening to blowm on the on
the TV, but with him sittingthere on the web page, I can't
remember exactly word for word what itsays and says astros lineup just hasn't fully

(01:41:20):
fired yet. What you wait on? Well, I don't know what more
we wait on? What has itfired yet? Dude? We're almost at
the All Star break and and andthis is what our astros are this year.
We just need all. I've cometo accept it. But you know,
but let's go. I'm gonna shipthe gear on you real quick because
I know we're up against it.At forty five seconds is up. Brian's

(01:41:45):
gotta go get his list in there. I've taken the last three days off,
John, We're about to go handBam, Thank you, officer.
I saw some damn good n cdouble a college. Hey, John,
those super reasons knows where those aresome of the that Clemson in Florida series.
That catch that Clemson kid made,that's one of the best catches I've

(01:42:06):
ever seen. I'll tell you what. That was a hell of a game.
I watched that. I watched thatgame and put some t bones on
the grill and fot that was agame. And then as you know,
and I'll give it to the Aggiesbecause I thought the Aggies were done when
we were watching that one and Oregonchoked. Man by Oregon. What an

(01:42:26):
implosion by Organ's bullpen. I mean, they absolutely choked. The Aggies are
nasty, they are they are,but they lost their they lost their best
player. Appreciate the call, John, Thanks John, appreciate it. Bud.
Yeah, let's let's get to break. I want to make sure we
can stay on time because we gotto Steve Sparks joining the show next right
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Go on and see him. Youget a free consultation, like I did.
I move to this town a decadeago, and a couple of years
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(01:44:20):
and it kept coming back doctor JeffWitson. So I went in visited him,
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(01:44:43):
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and Brian joined by our weekly visitfrom Astros broadcaster Steve Sparks every Monday at
eight thirty. Steve, welcome in, my man. Always appreciate you.
So for those who did not watch, we did, but some didn't.
Give me your best takeaway on thepositive side for the Astros in this series
this weekend this past weekend, Ididn't watch. Well the we're hoes,

(01:45:53):
aren't we? Well, hey,we can as we can say that,
Well, they took two of thethree. How's that? But yeah,
I mean something that hits you betweenthe eyes. If it did that stuck
out to you other than fromber beinglights out, but maybe that was it,
well his lights out. We sawMcCormick swinging the bat battery and your
Diaz. You know, there's acouple more guys swinging the bat. Bregman

(01:46:15):
continues to swing very well, Soyou get four or five guys in your
line that's starting to pick up theslack and then you're in business, especially
with Kyle Tucker out being able todo that with him out scoring you know,
somewhere around six runs per game ispretty good stuff. Steve, What
are you seeing with fromber? Imean, we know he's got stuff.

(01:46:35):
You said it all the time,talked about last year going in about you
know, flat and things were flattenout. What flash four or five starts.
Not only has he been a workhorse, I mean getting nine innings in
this past weekend but or Friday,but the way he's going about it there
seems to be confidence domination. Helooks like an ace of a staff.
What is it for me? Ithink it's not throwing his cutter as much

(01:47:00):
as he was. I think hewas being caught in between his two seat
fastball, which is his bread andbutter when he was throwing the cutter,
So I think he got lost fora while. He's not throwing it nearly
as much he threw it one timethat last game, he shook to it,
shipped to it, shipped to itto a slider. Next pitch was
a fastball that was probably three feetfrom the zone and he walked the only
guy he walked in that ball game. I really think that's a problem when

(01:47:24):
he throws that pitch. So Ithink if he can stay away from that,
I think you're going to see himgetting really deep into the games.
And with the five man rotation rightnow, that's what they need more than
anything for Promber is good quality anda lot of them and eating them up
as he did and was a greatperformance. So Steve, Steve with that,
let me get to the injury stuff. Kyle Tucker Alex Bregman. I

(01:47:45):
know one's day to day. KyleTucker's out. Both of the have been
durable as it gets. Can youstill hear me? I feel like I
cut out here. Hopefully you canstill hear me as durable as it gets,
Steve, both of them have Areyou concerned at all with the length
of these or when they come backfrom this or is this just something you
feels temporary as well? You know, a foul ball off the shin,

(01:48:05):
you know the second fastball off theback, of the hand. It was
a different spot. I got clarityon that last night on the airplane.
Bregman's was probably about four or fiveinches away from where he got hit last
week, So that probably shouldn't bea huge problem. Just wanted to make
sure that they got it in thereand got X rays and he wasn't going

(01:48:25):
to these things further. So thosetwo guys should be back probably next weekend,
you know, against the Detroit Tigers. We'll see, but I think
there will be back against the Giantsin this series, and Tucker probably this
weekend against Detroit. Do you likeBregman in the two hole right now,
Steve, when he's in Do youlike him in the tool if you had,
I understand as Joe's spot as team, but if you could pick one

(01:48:45):
spot for him to hit in regularly, where would it be? You know,
if he's staying on base? Youknow, I love Gregman in the
two hole. You know, Ilike guys up in the order that are
swinging the bat well. I wantthem to back the most. The other
day when when Jordan Alvarez, Ibelieve it was on Friday night, hit
the three run double the left centerfield right before that Bregman drew a walk,

(01:49:09):
you know, and that walked loadedthe bases where they had to pitch
to jord On. So traffic infront of Jordon, especially with Tucker out
of the lineup, is imperative.So him in the two hole right now
makes all the sense of the world. Steve sparks for his weekly visit eight
thirty on Mondays here on Sports Talkseven ninety Steve Presley, is it as

(01:49:30):
simple, And I know it's talkedabout, and I know he's got stuff
we've we've talked about it up now, but it is simply that the eighth
hole is I mean, being in, you know, in the eighth inning
is less comfortable than it was.Is a demotion. What is the reason
for his struggles this year? Youknow, it's probably a few things,
and you touched on it. It'snot easy, you know, and it's
not easy when you're not doing welland what that does to your psyching,

(01:49:54):
what that does to the mental portionof the game. He's been around this
game long enough to realize that it'smore about the process and just going out
there and executing. But it's easiersaid than done. So do you demote
him? You know when I say, demote, do you put him to
the seventh inning or sixth inning?Where does he fall in right now?

(01:50:15):
I think there's probably a little delicateline in there right now for especially for
a young manager to realize, Okay, do I want to show faith in
a certain picture because of what he'sdone? Don't forget his last nineteen appearances
in the playoffs have been scoreless,right right? Do I want to show
him that confidence? You know that? Or gratitude for everything done and show

(01:50:39):
my belief for do I need topull back a little bit? And they
pull back with guys in the lineupfrom time to time. Bragman's bat at
sixth a few times this year,but when he wasn't hitting the ball well,
so you know, maybe it's timethat you do take him out of
that specific role or give it toanother guy every once in a while,
just to kind of massage Presley untilhe gets back to where he usually is

(01:51:00):
and steve. That is one ofthe fine lines and one of the decisions
that may be underrated that a managerhas to make. Because you're right,
you think, Okay, when weget to this point, he's been so
good to us and so good forthis franchise in a postseason and during the
regular season been a hell of acloser. But it's a little different now.
So do you say, let meshow faith or let me make a

(01:51:21):
change now? Because right now wegot to have these wins and you don't
want to lose him completely. Andyet it's still Ryan Presley. It's his
job. He gets paid to finda way to work his way through it.
So that fine line is underrated ina decision that's really difficult to make,
especially when the guy's got to walkinto clubhouse every day. Yeah,
in the third too, when theteam is struggling to get back to five

(01:51:45):
hundred, So yeah, it makesthings more difficult. But you start leaning
toward making a decision when the team'snot playing as well as they should be,
right so you know, probably soonerthan later, you know you might
have to address something in that regard. Steve is the do you trust at
the back end of the bullpen asit rolls along is going to be fine?

(01:52:09):
Dominant? Good? Where are yousitting on your trust factor right now?
Well, I'm looking for depth rightnow because of how much all these
guys are getting used, you know, and it's not just getting pitched,
number of pitches. It's all thetimes they're getting up in the bullpen,
all the barrel activity in the penright now, and you don't see that

(01:52:30):
Taylor Scott got up every game inthat series when he only got one appearance.
You don't see those things right nowbecause the Astros are fighting and clawing
to try to get back into thisrace. And that's what we talked about
early on, is is you can'trest certain players in your lineup because you're
trying to win every single night,and that makes things difficult to get through

(01:52:53):
the season, not only playing,but get through the season fresh and healthy.
That's really difficult, especially right now. I mean there's not a lot
of in the rotation. Luis Garciais on the horizon, but right now
you're pushing these guys in a fiverotation and there's not much lead up and
there's not much depth left. Stevewith that with the team of the grind

(01:53:16):
that this is going to be,and it's hell. Some years you just
have it. It's a year longgrind, right, I mean it is
when you play under sixteen games,but when you're in a chase mode,
decisions come maybe more urgent, maybethere's a patient's issue, whether it's a
player or manager, whoever's making thesedecisions, trade deadline decisions. But you're
around it every day and you've beenin this game for so long. Do
you feel a sense of and it'snot panic, but do you feel a

(01:53:40):
sense of urgency, a sense ofthey're gripping too hard or a time because
they're playing some pretty good baseball.There was a lot to take away from
this week and said good and theywere close to a sweep, they just
couldn't close it out. So isthere a part of you there are you
feeling in years past around this time? Is there a confidence difference? So
are you feeling any buzz? Isthere any finger on the pulse? What's

(01:54:01):
going on with the way they're feelingand mentally and emotionally about the grind.
I think what we feel and whatwe see are probably a couple of different
things. What I feel is thatthere's a sense of urgency with a lot
of people, just in the waythat the game managed. There's a sense
of urgency. But what I seeis the team that continues just to prepare

(01:54:25):
on the plane. You know,it's business as usual. I think these
guys realize that they know how towin. They know what it takes,
and it's all about, you know, relaxing when you need to relax,
and then going to the ballpark andgetting all your work in it. And
I think they do a great jobof keeping each other accountable on getting their
preparation in, whether that's watching video, working out, resting, doing whatever

(01:54:51):
they have to do to be attheir best. And this team knows that
formula, and I don't think that'sgoing away anytime soon, just because the
got enough guys in the locker roomthat locked up even that they're going to
be showing the way for a longtime. So they know what it takes.
But right now, it's just away different paths to try to get
there because of the way they started. Steve, I, you're speaking of

(01:55:14):
the fans, what you are,they're they're listening and they love hearing your
segment. Should expectations be World Seriesstill with what you what we've seen so
far, they always should be.That's what That's what I believe, right
you know, that's what you know. Maybe the team's not as good as
it has been in the years pastright now, but it's still baseball.

(01:55:34):
Baseball is great, right, andyou know, and you get you gotta
love these different journeys that are tryingto get there. And look what the
Arizona Diamondback did last year. Wetalked about this little last week Sean.
They didn't get in till the lastday of the season. They made it
to the World Series. There's alot of teams that have started off slow
in recent years, with the Nationalsand the Braves, the Astros firsthand,

(01:55:57):
you just got to get in andyou've got to figure out way and you
can plug in some of those weaknesses. You can plug holes because of the
off days in the playoffs. It'sa whole different game the way you can
set your roster and cover up somedeficiencies. We saw that with the Texas
Rangers last year with their brutal bullpen. They put a couple of starters out
there and everything started to look prettygood because you don't need that many relievers

(01:56:19):
in the playoffs with all the builtin off days, So they're gonna There's
the one thing I worry about isguys getting overuse. You know, I'd
like to see how two V's notgetting any younger. I'd like to see
him, you know, with withmore days off. I'd like to see
Bregman, you know, with aday off or too, paying you the

(01:56:42):
same thing. He's plays hard,you know, and you love that about
him. But you know guys willperform better. And we saw that with
Yan Diev. You' got two daysoff and he's come back this last week
a different guy. At the lighttimes. Getting a mental break is very
important. We saw Dusty Baker dothat very well. Uh, the guys
in the bullten, you know,it might be a shuttle with three or

(01:57:03):
four guys all year long between sugarLand and Houston because they have to use
these pictures because you know, yougot to have a quick cook at right
now, that's just the that's justthe nature where they put themselves and first
base is going to be a platoonjob the whole year, right, Steve
de been on Who's Hot. It'sjust that that's just what you're You're just
gonna have to deal with that,correct I don't I don't know, you

(01:57:25):
know, I don't know, youknow, I mean, can you go?
Can you keep going with that productionat that position the whole year depends
on what everybody else does. Iguess, But you know, if a
couple of other guys are sliding.Then that, you know, then you
start to get the MAC to magnifycertain things like that, and you need

(01:57:46):
power, you know, out ofthat position. Yeah, for sure,
that's the power position. I think. You know, they're gonna have to
address They're gonna have to address it. You know, they're they're trying to
get to the playoffs. This teamis built to win. They're trying to
win a World Series. Back tothat question, Sean, and they they've
got to figure out what's the bestway to get there, no matter what,
no question about it, and decisionsare going to have to be made

(01:58:09):
by people far smarter than me.So let me lead to this. Leadership's
a big part of everything in lifeand in baseball. You've been on those
teams. This team in the pasthas a series of whoever it might have
been, whether it's Korea in thepast, Dusty Baker, whether it's you
know, Maldonado and Michael Brantley.We have We've had listeners and callers ask
the question. And I can seeit from my vantage point from a distance.

(01:58:31):
You're around it every day. Ifthey had to have a I'm not
talking about a team meeting. Youknow, I think they're overrated. I
do. I'm talking about if somebodyhad to put their foot down, and
you say I got to lean onsomebody to do that, who's the voice
of the clubhouse for the Astros.Well, I've been thinking about that a

(01:58:51):
little bit. So. Twenty twentytwo, the Cardinals win their division,
and whenever there's a meeting on themound, there was only one person talking.
We right last year they finished inlast place. After he retired.

(01:59:12):
Last year, Maldonado was the onlyperson talking on top of the mountain when
there was a meeting. One guywas talking. Buster Posey when he was
the Giants through those championship years,one guy talking. And when he left,
the team went in the tank.And I'm not saying I mean there
can be different voices. I'm justsaying there was one voice at that time,

(01:59:36):
and I think that matters. Whenone guy is taking control and he's
a natural leader, and there's there'sa there's a momentary drop off for whatever
reason, and somebody else has tofigure out. You know, I'm gonna
boys, can't give you a quick, quick, little example right now.

(02:00:00):
I think people are scrambling around heretrying to figure out who that one voice
would be. Yeah, please tellus. I'm not sure right now.
I think it could be a coupleof voices. But I'm just I'm giving
you three examples of catchers. Assoon as they were they were gone.
The team slipped. Okay, poseyYadier Molina Amaldonado. The other day,

(02:00:24):
Jojo Romero was pitching for the Cardinalsand he strikes out jose A Brau in
a big moment. He was pinchhitting and he's fired up, and he
starts walking toward his bench three orfour steps. Then he realizes there's chops.
And let me tell you this,just from experience, that trip's a
wire in the head of a picture. You're not the same. You get

(02:00:45):
back on the mound and you're thinking, oh my gosh, everybody's gonna rag
me. I'm embarrassed. That wason TV. Kangaroo courts gonna be brutal.
Next fift he throws is a tworun homer to YadA or to uh
Janar Diez. Next pitch, becausethat wire was tripped, and I've seen
it twenty times in my career,and that's when a catcher or a third

(02:01:09):
baseman should have gone to the moundand reset that wire. And that's a
mound visit where you figure that couldbe the difference to the ballgame, and
it was the difference to the gamest and omer was a difference maker.
Steve, Yadi or Molina would havegone out there. Yep. I think.
So that's a great point, man, which to steve from this passionate

(02:01:30):
conversation here, this last one thattells me leaderships even far more important than
we may even give it credit for. And you, I think you feel
the same way. Yeah, itfeels like I guess it feels like right.
And it don't take everything I sayas the truth, you know.
I We've got gospel. Gospel,brother, I just say it, man,

(02:01:54):
it's hard. It's hard to it'shard to pick up the slack Birds
such a kind of a dominant presencein the team's locker room. Phenomenal point.
I think we're trying to steal thatout right now. It's a great
point, Steve. This is anawesome conversation and something for us to soak
in. And we'll be listening againand enjoy the broadcast tonight, and then
what have we got? Three Gamerin San Francisco. Is that what it

(02:02:16):
is? Steve? Right here again? Yeah, well I'm back this weekend
for for the Tigers. Back thereyou go. We'll have a good one.
We appreciate the great interview and thatwas great stuff today and we'll look
forward to it next week. Brother. Thank you. All right, there
you go, great phenomenal points.And if you don't think leadership matters,
don't kid yourself. It does andSteve knows it as well as anybody.

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Sparks as always on Monday. Yeah, and that's Scheffler Victory was a grind
yesterday, dude, Scotch. Thatis I think, aside from AUGUSTA that's
gonna be the They said, that'sthe second toughest golf course this team so
far this year that anybody's played.It was a grind. I mean,

(02:04:26):
I'm talking about they're hitting good shotsand and and you're getting punished fair,
but you've got to be world classto win. And it was a grind
yesterday. And back to what SteveSparks said, and so congratulations to Scheffer.
That's five wins and eight starts thisyear. The dude in like in
the other three two seconds in likea tenth. It's just nuts what he's
doing. And he had to celebratewith his first time his son seen his

(02:04:49):
tournament, you know, it's amonth or so old, and got to
go, and his wife show up. She was missed the last two,
so good for him. The guy'sjust as good as it gets so and
he's playing at a level that isverybodyseems to be playing for second place as
far as the Astros go. Steve'sright, you know, and Steve gives
great insight and he's you know,he'd like us watching and but he's around
it every day. I thought itwas very telling point. If Steve Sparks

(02:05:15):
doesn't know who the voice is neitherdo we. He's around it every day,
and that's not I don't think he'sbeing derogator. I think he's just
trying to figure out who it is. And I think that the emphasis is.
You listen to him say, allthree of those guys have left,
all three teams have looked different,those catchers, Saint Louis, San Francisco

(02:05:38):
in here, there might be somethingto say for leadership over one hundred and
thirty batting average at times, rightat times, So make no mistake about
it. There's a leadership gap herein my opinion, that hasn't been applied
yet because I'm not sure we knowwho that guy is. Great stuff by
Steve Today, much great stuff everyweek. But it was really really interesting

(02:06:00):
what he said and about the homerun that Diaz hit after he thought it
was three outs, and YadA orMaline is one of the great leaders we've
had at the position in a longtime. Sang Lois has looked different ever
since then. Yeah, I don'tthink it's by chance either. No,
that's just me. Uh did yousee one of the one of the bright

(02:06:21):
spots. Did you see what Jordandid over the weekend off of Ben Joyce,
Benji sigil. Yeah, Ben Joyceuh threw a pitch at one hundred
and three point nine miles an hour. Jordan Alvarez smacked it the other way
for a double. Yeah, hewas the ball is starting to jump off
his bat again. It came offhis bat, came off Jordon's bat at

(02:06:45):
one oh six point three. That'sthe fourth fastest pitch anyone's had base hit
on in pitch tracking era since twothousand and eight. The fourth fastest pitch
or hit hit all of one ofthe fastest pitches right when the pitch thrown
that hard compared to a ball thatcame off the bat that hard, is

(02:07:05):
what you're saying. Yeah, FranciscoSurvelli, Stephen Voight, and Carlos Ruiz
twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen, andtwenty ten. All of those balls are
coming off of ere all just Chapmanand he was over a sea note obviously
had to beat above the century mark, right, Yeah, one oh four
point two miles an hour. SoBen Joyce threw one at one oh three

(02:07:27):
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a smoke in smoke out brother God, no doubt. All right, let's
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This is the Sean Salsbury Show.We had Steve Sparks a little bit
ago at eight thirty. If youmissed that interview, it'll be up on
our on our blog after the showat sports seven ninety dot com. The
Celtics beat the MAVs. They takea two oher series lead in the NBA
Finals. Let's get back out tothe phone line seven one three two one

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two five seven ninety's welcome in Mattress, Mac. What's going on? Mac
Hey? Brian just wanted to saythe interview state Sparks for spectacular. Thank
you, Mac, appreciate that onecould be the best thing I ever heard
on sports radio. It's an awesomecompliment. And matckew do you agree on
the leadership? Sorry party said aboutleadership. I would have never known that

(02:10:50):
in a years about that guy hittingthe home run, but he's right.
Last year we all like to criticizeMaldon, Adam and Dusty, but you
sure missing when they're gone. It'sa great point, Mac. I mean
it doesn't. But does the leadershipthing apply to everything? Mac? What
we do success wise? Great leadershipmaking people around you better and and and
being held accountable in that part ofeverything we do. And it's the astros.

(02:11:13):
You can see that. It's it'sbeing missed a little bit this year.
Yeah, I'm going to a leadershipcelebration here about an hour tusy would
have been the hundredth birthday of PresidentGeorge Herbert Walker Bush and I was raised
Bio today. He was shot downin the Pacific Gosha when he was twenty
years old, floatered in the waysfor two hours, so I got picked

(02:11:33):
up by American submarine. The leaderthat guy was. What of the difference
he made? So, as y'allsaid on the show, leadership matters and
quite often is very much underappreciated.It's a great point, Mac. Thank
you enjoy that and uh, whata great compliment coming from you. Thank
you so much for the call,Brother, appreciate you as always. Thank

(02:11:54):
you awesome And you know what thinkabout that? Just a baseball inside Mac
makes a hell of a point.What Steve Sparks said, and when Steve
Sparks said, Hey, Sean,you've got time for me to share one
other was like, hell yeah,we got time. Yeah, we'll blow
through a break to hear what Stevehad to say. Poignant little things that
Remember we talk about broadcasters and teachinginstead of just talking and telling and being

(02:12:20):
captain obvious and what you tell,oh, I'll strike down the middle grade.
We see that, and I broadcastdoes a great job of teaching.
And Steve Sparks is a great teacherbecause he's you know, Steve's not the
Hall of Fame, but man alife. He's got a great perspective. He's
pitched with Hall of famers, He'splayed on teams with great players, he's
been a player, a broadcaster andsees it from all different perspective. And

(02:12:41):
how many people, even baseball peoplewould have watched that and watched it and
he's so right about the embarrassment.Who of us hasn't done something, Get
under the wrongs, get under theright guard, or screw up the cadence
as a quarterback, and you're you'rethe one who called the cadence in the
huddle, and you're the one whojumps offside and pulls away from the center
when you're under center. I've doneit. And you know what you think

(02:13:01):
is, oh, the Fellers aregoing to crush me. I just cost
my team five yards the meat.There's gonna be those things. I'm talking
about. A million thoughts on thenegative side roll through your mind immediately instead
of being able to wash him out. It's normal and happens. And so
he steps off the mound thinking it'sthree outs and immediately you've you've kind of

(02:13:22):
lost focus on what dialed you into get the strikeout in the first place.
Nobody to come out there and checkyou. Throw a pitch right down
Broadway. Boss crushed for a homerun, a two run job. I
think it was the da Is hitand little things like that to teach,
and you're like, damn, Ididn't even think about, oh is he
focused? And how important it wouldhave been for a guy like YadA Ye

(02:13:43):
Molina had or hearing Maulden out ofthe walk back and say, hey,
listen, man, settle in.None of that crap matters. We'll have
some laughs about it later. Getthis guy out, don't lose focus on
the pitch, and good hitters willmake you pay. So and great great
call by Mac and great point toreemphasize that may have very well been as

(02:14:05):
good a teaching point that we've hadin our three years on this station,
you and I together, Yeah,no doubt. And that's what makes a
broadcaster. Yeah, needle moving tonot tell us the obvious Steve tells us.
Steve doesn't. He tells us somethingdifferent every week. Simple points like
that, because it's obvious to me. Steve Sparks thinks. And I'm speaking

(02:14:28):
for me and I'm not speaking forSteve. My vantage point that Steve's think
that there's some leadership gaps here.What's their record? Thirty and thirty six?
Again, Leadership isn't what you dofor you. Leadership is how you
bring out the best in others.That's the difference, and right now there's

(02:14:52):
probably not that. It may notbe a big gap, but a small
gap can be the difference in threeor four, five or six games.
Well, we're seeing it, yeswe are. It's not the Dame,
and let's talk about that. SteveSwarks interview. Damon, welcome in Very
good morning, guys. I caughtthe tear lid of that interview with Steve
Sparks and it got me to wondering. When we're talking about leadership, usually
it's the team captain, and ithit me, I don't even know who

(02:15:15):
the team captain is. Do weknow they don't have one? Well,
why don't they? They've never hadone, really, and I don't know
why. So he just there's sothere's nobody. I mean, I understand
that sometimes there's a pecking order,but I guess I always like to know
that's my guy. I've never beenon a team without a team captain.
Yeah, they've never done the teamcaptain. It's odd, isn't it?

(02:15:37):
Or do they just want everybody totake the role. It's a great point,
Damon. I guess we know whynow, Yeah, and now that
he brings it up, I neverknew they didn't have one. I guess
we just assumed. I guess weput a big old C on Maldonada's chest,
right, even though we didn't putit on there. I guess we
just assumed. I don't know,but that that's odd. I understand that
you want to keep everybody, youknow, everybody has a voice and fine,

(02:15:58):
but I guess I'm always looking forsomebody. I guess maybe they're saying
you don't need to see on thechest to be a leader. But I
still always I'm just one of thoseguys. I think it's the I think
the greatest honor on a team,Damon and Brian is being elected team captain
by your by your by your players, not being voted team MVP. I

(02:16:18):
think that's great. I think whensomebody votes you, what they're saying is
we trust you. No matter whatwe'll we'll go to We'll walk down the
alley with you without running out thebackside in a fight. And I don't
mean a little for you. Getmy point, no matter what goes on,
we know you got us, whichmeans we got you. I think
the highest honor that can be imposedupon you on your team from your teammates

(02:16:43):
is being elected team captain, notelected MVP of your team. An MVP
is going to be decided by yourperformance. Team Captain's decided by how you
make everybody else perform. The mosttenured on this current ASHOS team's got to
be out. Okay, Yeah,and he's probably not that guy. Well,

(02:17:03):
he's the guy who does it withhis bat and smiles and is a
great play he performs. But Idon't think he's the guy grabs somebody if
you need somebody to grab him aroundthe jersey and do it. You know,
I'm not that that's the way youlead. There's different ways to lead,
but I think that we would lookat a leader a little bit different
that maybe voice has heard a littlemore. Al Twovey's performance is always great

(02:17:24):
leadership, but sometimes maybe you needa little different type of leadership. But
Dame a great point got us tothinking, I didn't know they didn't either
after all this time, and Ijust assumed they did and and and they
don't. I did not know thata brother, thank you, I'm one.
I'm one that and that they candisagree all they want. I know
they've had great success over the lastseven years. For me, I think

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teammates need to know who the guysand maybe on the past you knew Maldonada
was the guy in Brantley without puttinga C on their chest. Don't kid
yourself though. Even a player wantto be elected team captain. It is
the fun. You were talking inthe same way. I was elected captain
in college exactly. And I'm tellme a bigger honor you've had in college.
I mean, I had my mycaptains with the sea on it.

(02:18:11):
I had it shadow boxed and myhead coach, coach Masker, who wrote
me a nice little piece that Iframed with it. No MVP, my
All Conference award as well. Okay, the if they had to take one
back, if they had to takeAll Conference award or leadership back, what
would you give back. I'd giveback the All Conference no question right.
Yeah, it's the greatest honor heapedupon a player. Yeah, that's why
I got it. Ye with thegood on you, Yeah, that speaks

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volumes for you, for your teammatesand what they expected from you, accountability
and even when you're going back.And the one thing about modern not or
even when he was going back,he kept leading. Well, you didn't
have to worry about any pictures goingrogue. So not saying you're going back
to get he I mean, I'mwatching me. He's he's struck out thirteen
his last thirty five at bats inChicago. But I'm just telling you,

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we don't emphasis on leadership. Ifyou were going to ever over emphasize anything
in your friggin life, running acompany, running a sales staff, running
a baseball team, it does notmatter if you were ever going to say,
man, maybe we overemphasize that.You can never overemphasize leadership enough.
Ever, nations fall leadership a lackof leadership were greed and because see,

(02:19:28):
great leaders don't let greed and selfishand ego and pride get in the way
of winning or get in the wayof their individual stuff. Yeah, there's
it's we As much as we emphasizeleadership, it's still underrated. It's crazy.
You can't overemphasize it enough. Surecan't. Attitude reflect leadership? Captain?

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There you go, name that movieattitude? What was it? Was
it? Attitude reflect leadership? Captain? What is it? What was it?
What's the movie? Really? Yeah? What is it? Remember the
Titans? Oh? There you go. I'm thinking when you said captain,
I was actually that's exactly right.I'm actually thinking and big Julius carry you.
That's exactly right. Damn right Iam what does he say? I

(02:20:18):
am the captain? Now, yeah, captain Philip, that was actually when
you said I'm thinking on a ship. Oh yeah, yeah, your captain.
Yeah. All right, let's let'sget a break. We'll continue to
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the celebration start war Sean Salisbury.It's a Sean Salisbury show. Steve Sparks
joined us earlier and Sean asked himabout leadership and voices in the clubhouse.
Steve Sparks basically alluded that he wasn'ttoo sure on who the main voices were
in the clubhouse. We've been discussingin leadership over the last I don't know

(02:22:11):
about twenty minutes or so when wegot into the nine o'clock hour, especially
with Eas Houston Astros. Let's getout to the phone lines. Look like
quite a bit of people want toget in on that discussion. We'll start
with Isabelle. Isabelle, thanks forholding Good morning, Hi, good morning.
Yes, I'm calling pisses in leadership. So I had a question,
or at least I thought when youguys were talking to Steve. Could it

(02:22:35):
possibly be that Diez is trying tostep up and be a leader, but
maybe they're not taking him into thatrole. And I say that because of
what happened between him and Froumber,when you know, he's trying to call
calls pitches and Farmer's not accepting it. And then next thing you know,

(02:22:56):
Fromber's you know, having a twohome runs of him, Diaz took his
mask off and just stared at him. And he hasn't catched for him since.
You know, maybe last year withthe clashing with trying to get Das

(02:23:16):
to play more, but Detty keptpushing Maldonado, maybe there's a sense that
Diaz isn't the leader because you knowthere's some remnants running over from from that
from last year. I don't know, I was just thinking about it,
and I was just wondering something likethat could happen or possibly be happening.
Thank you, Isabelle Uh. Ithink in regards to jan here Diaz,

(02:23:37):
I think that the he's just youngand he's just inexperience, and you know,
you got to take your woes withhow it is when you have a
catcher that is really starting as afull time catcher for the first time in
his career, and he didn't seethat last year. So he's got to
learn somehow. There's got to bea little bit of a curve where you
earn the respect of a pitching staff. Now, listen, I think Fromer

(02:23:58):
beats to a different drum as well, and I think that probably I think
the trust he put in a veteran, maybe he hasn't. Probably he's probably
one of those guys that wants tosee and when you turn when you keep
waving off a pitch a catcher,yep, you know, and not given
and not I don't want to sayrespect, but not trusting what he's calling,
it tells you that they're not onthe same page. That it doesn't

(02:24:20):
mean they don't like each other,just means on the mount. And there
are certain guys who have certain catchersin baseball. We've seen it here more
than once with Tupo. I mean, you know, Verlanders had his center
fielder and his catcher. I meanwe fromber had, you know, his
catcher on a regular basis. Sothat's a process that in truth, leadership
in most cases comes with time andconsistency, and accountability. I'm sure Yer

(02:24:43):
would love that role. It's it'sgoing to take a minute to get it.
Yeah, and that's just the wayit works. Yep. It's doctor
John, John. What's happening?Hey guys, Hi John, are you
doing? We're good? What's onyour mind? Sir? Oh? Yes,
sir, Well, I was thinking, you know what about Alex bregman

(02:25:07):
Man. I mean, you know, uh he he he reminds me of
Lex Berkman. Uh, you know, I mean he would make a good
person if they would listen to him. You know, he's he's been around
for a while there, you know, and I would respect him, you

(02:25:28):
know. Uh, he's you know, he's he's done his role so far,
he's had his schools. But Iwould you know, if there was
ever a voting in the team,I would vote for him. Yeah,
Alex is all right, yeah,you know, and I'm going to hang
up and I'm going to listen toyou about this, you know, seeway

(02:25:52):
think, thank you John, andyeah, you have a good day.
Let's get one more call and thenwe'll address Terrence. What's up? T
Money, T Dog, good morning, good morning? Uh oh bad connection,
Triple A. Will you have himgive us a shout back. I
don't know what's going on. Wegot a little phone issues, but okay,

(02:26:13):
so go back to John Alex Bregman. I mean he's been here,
done that. I mean, obviouslyhe is one of your pillars. As
we've heard from Dana Brown, Asher'sgeneral manager. Does he want the role?
It's hard for me to from aanswer that No, from a distance,
no, I don't think so.I think no, I'm saying it's

(02:26:33):
hard to answer from a disc becauseyou're not in the rout at all time,
right. And then I also justand this is my own opinion,
I don't think Alex Bregman is goingto be an Asher after this season.
Yeah. I think it's hard toheap it upon somebody that you think may
have not in his mind, butthat we all believe there's one foot out
the door. Not by the wayhe's playing, right, even though it's
been slow, he's gotten better andhis bats obviously doing what in normal.

(02:26:56):
He's starting to heat up. Andthe powers come back is that you said,
well, is he gonna it?Would it be a one year thing?
And I think that we all knowthat. See, I think Bregman's
the guy that when you say,well, he's got to carry when he
gets going. He's one of thoseguys that there's an energy about the team
when he's swinging the bat. Well, it feels like it's it permeates to

(02:27:16):
other guys. I don't know ifleadership is you say, who's the voice
that's gonna go out to the mindbe the sole voice that Steve Sparks talked
about. I don't know if thatis Bregman, because if it was,
wouldn't he have just taken it onautomatically when basically Kara left or Maldonado left.
I think it's been avoid since since. I mean, there was no

(02:27:39):
void from Karrea Maldonata because Maldonata graspedit. But I think there has been
a void this year. And Idon't know if that's I mean, it's
you need the leadership, but Idon't think it's a a void that says
that there's not good performers, butit feels like there's a different leadership they
need. Does that make sense then? Just a performer that swings the bat.

(02:28:00):
I think there that's a good wayto put it, all right,
I'll see if I can get Terrence. What's up Terrence. Hey, guys,
y'all can hear me? Good?Now? Yeah, we got you.
I was just gonna say that,you know, when it comes to
leadership, I'm gonna get a littlelike psychological here. But people are born
with the natural ability to lead.You know, I don't believe that,

(02:28:20):
Brian, you just became a leaderwhen you were at uh what is it
soul Ross. Yeah, and justbecause of your all conference, like you're
a natural born leader. Hence whyyou coach? I just think we don't
have anybody that wants to take onthat role. Whereas Maldonado natural leader,
brandly natural leader my high school team. I wasn't the best player on the

(02:28:43):
team, but I just I wasalways told that I was a natural leader.
And I just don't think we haveanybody and a spot about I don't
think he has that natural leading ability. Not to say he's a bad coach,
but there's just nobody that wants totake on the role. You're born
with it. You know, youyou you grow up and people follow you.
They want to follow You're a magnet. Yes, they engage with you.

(02:29:07):
They want to follow you in everyroom you go in, absolutely absolutely,
and that's something that I just noticedin my life, like not that
I'm the coolest guy in the roomor whatever, but people always followed me.
I was a leader more than afollower, and people like to follow.
And I think we have a bunchof followers and we don't have a
leader. So I'll hang up andlisten. But great conversation and love you

(02:29:28):
guys. Thankster's feelings mutual for youtoo, brother. I think leadership is
there's part of your DNA that hasto be the majority of it. I
know a couple things in roles thatI've been in a leadership position and people
have looked to you. It's nevernever had to ask for it or beg
for it, right, and Inever will. And it is a natural

(02:29:48):
thing. It just kind of it'sactually heaped upon you by your teammates because
they're just even if you're not.You walk in and people just kind of
gravitate towards you. Correct and that'sa good thing. And I know this,
this is a fact or every stepof the way in experience that I've
seen with leaders that have been guysI've looked to or guys that have looked
to me. Brian, I'm surewith guys that have looked to you and
what Terrence is talking about, andit's not just sports. In order to

(02:30:11):
be a great leader, you haveto be a great communicator and you also
have to be you just have tobe both are tied and you talk about
simpatico. They are tied together likea knot that you can undo that.
They are married together. And Iknow another thing, if you're afraid of
criticism, take two weeks off andquit the leadership role. It ain't popular.

(02:30:39):
It is to your teams, butbecause some aren't going to like you
for it. And you've got tomake some harsh, cold blooded decisions.
But the key is why you're makingthose cold blooded decisions. You've got to
be a great communicator with it.The greatest leaders I know, even if
they got to tell you something that'sbad, that news you don't want to
hear, You're like, okay,i'll fix this or I'll do what I

(02:31:03):
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Getty getting the start on the moundseven seven ninety A couple of guys want
to get in talking about the ASTROSleadership. Tony, You're up first.
Good morning, Good morning, gentlemen. Everybody seems they want, you know,
HARKing back on on maldonadoill being hisgreat catcher. You want to you

(02:33:18):
want you back in the organization,can hire him as a catching instructor.
He got some pretty good young catchersdown at the low level. John Garcia
is one of them. Maybe workwith these guys. But as far as
as far as as uh the isis concerned, I think it's just experience,
man. Yeah, he and notjust his his experience as a catcher,
but his experience with the umpires.He's he's not getting a lot of

(02:33:39):
calls, man, Uh, Maldonadogot a lot of calls, not just
because he framed better, because theyrespected him. Right, he's a proven
commodity. Umpires are human, right, they're human, and you know if
they like you, you've got arapport with him. That ball, that's
that ball that's an inch and ahalf outside to strike. Just give him
some to be patient with him,Bregman, it's not going to be here,

(02:34:03):
guys. I don't think there's anyway if this season continues to go,
even if we get back in it, I don't think you can let
because this guy's not staying. He'snot saying he's already sold his house.
He's not staying. He's not hehe sees hand riding on the wall.
He's out of here. They needto make they need to make a deal

(02:34:24):
for him, and the earlier thebetter. Don't wait till the very end.
If you get something that's that's that'sappealing. We're bringing some some pitching
into this organization because he's not goingto be here. I don't think he
is. I'll hang up, listen, thank you, Tony. If they
get the right offer instead of rightoffer and it's hovering like it is now
and they're five and a half,six and a half out and somebody makes

(02:34:45):
you an offer you can't refuse.It gives you a chance to as much
i'd like to have him back onwith Tony and Brian. You've said it,
we've said it spring training. Ijust don't think that the money's going
to be that what he wants here, even though he, let's say,
hits two forty this year with eighteenhome runs. Somebody's gonna pay him.
And I don't know if they're gonnapay him twenty eight million a year,

(02:35:09):
thirty one million a year for howlong. But I would agree if I
had to bet money I'd bet thathe's playing somewhere else next year, wouldn't
you. Yes, And so forme, if I know that, and
I know they're not a seller,if somebody makes me an offer, he
says, this is, this is, I can't turn this down, even
though Bregman at the point in timemay be a better player than the person
here, maybe maybe not having abetter season, but a better player.

(02:35:31):
If you're telling me, I canget something that helps still gives me a
chance to run in the second halfof the season, and builds me in
the future. And I don't justlose him to lose him. I can
get something that's worth an asset inreturn or two or three. I will
not bad any at doing that,will you? No, I will not.
Matter of fact, I'm actually seekingout to see what's out there.

(02:35:52):
Yeah, yep, that's exactly whatI would do. I mean, someone's
gonna pay him what he wants.Listen, I think I just don't think
it's gonna be here, right,And people got to be loyal to him,
got to No, No, Iunderstand loyalty, but people go where
they get the best deal. Andif the best deal for you is to
you're gonna have to find something forthird base this year, build something or

(02:36:16):
a prospect or a young player.But you can go out and get Vlad
Guerrero at first base. You're kindof killing two bridge. You're protecting yourself
in the future, even though Bregmanmay leave, and you're getting what you'd
think is a power productive guy,even though his home runs are down this
year. I think I trust Vladmore than both guys at the same time,
So I'm just using him as anexample. I don't think it's out

(02:36:37):
of the woods that somebody's going tomake an offer for him because and I
have to listen, Brian, Ijust do. That doesn't mean you're giving
up hope on the season. Itmeans that you're trying to enhance your baseball
club, not just and what maynot be this year as you build it.
Maybe it's a foregone conclusion that he'sstaying this year, maybe they're not

(02:36:58):
even gonna try to move him.But aren't you listening? Yeah, I
think it'd be. I think ifyou didn't, you'd be doing You're not
doing it, no question. Ithink you have to listen. I agree.
Now, if he was in thesituation of Kyle Tucker's in another year.
No, No, I'm gonna runit out right, I'll deal with
it next year, right, ButI'm not because I don't have to.

(02:37:18):
But you're in a position where youmay have to. You may very well
have to. Yeah, yeah,especially I mean if they're gonna be you
know, eight nine, ten gamesout, if they're seven and a half
out, yeah, you stuff tolisten, I think, so I agree.
Start the Jason Good Morning, JasonMorning fellas a great show listening here

(02:37:39):
in South Texas while I'm cleaning mygolf clubs and love the conversation about leadership.
I just wanted to jump in witha couple of comments that I was
thinking about. You know, whois gonna be the Jake Taylor that went
over to Dorn's house and said,hey, why did you tank that ball
in the night. Now, maybeit's not to that extreme, but yeah,
who's gonna be the guy to say, hey, guys, we need

(02:38:00):
to refocus. Now. We aretrending on an upswing, you know what,
five games away from being at leastfive grid, but it seems like
every time we get that close,seem to struggle, you know, So,
yeah, who is gonna be thatguy? And I don't know that
we have one. I personally thinkI'm thinking while I'm listening to this,
maybe the front office tried to thinkthat not only are we getting a talented

(02:38:22):
player in a brave you, maybehe would come in and be that leader
in the clubhouse to everybody. Andthat's also fallen through because it seems like
we've gone for some veteran guys thathad tried to be front office or that
have tried to be that leader,especially like with Maldy and Brantley. Now
Brandley was that silent leader. AndI also think about Maldy. Look,

(02:38:43):
we roasted Maldy, and you knowhe's he did all. He didn't do
much athlete. Man. I rememberlast year when Simeon hit that home run,
I think it was on a Sundaynight and he stumped on the plate
and Malty got in his grill likethat's the guy we need, Like,
who is gonna be the guy tosay, you know what, we're not
gonna take it. We're steer ofthe champs. We're still gonna act like

(02:39:05):
the champs, and we're gonna getright back in you. And that's what
I fear. You know that wedon't have you know, he just talked
about a month ago about the swag, getting the swag back, and we
saw glimpses of that with Pregnant,but it seems like it's just up and
down. We can't catch that solidrun. And maybe there is a guy
out there that we're gonna, youknow, maybe deal for and can bring

(02:39:26):
that to the clubhouse. But yeah, I think that's you know, that's
just what we're missing. And Ilove you know, Al Tubay, Right,
he's the smile guy, the feelgood guy, but he's not gonna,
you know, get up in anybody'sgrill, so, you know,
speaking to those points, I justthink, you know, maybe there's a
guy out there we need to getor we just keep riding it. Just
my thoughts. Thanks Jason, goodstuff. I felled all the ways since

(02:39:48):
Springs Training that a disruptor is neededand wherever it is, a disruptor,
I think they're good on every team. And disruptor doesn't mean negative disruption,
positive disruption. Business needs disruption.When we have somebody comes in Live tour,
they were just here, I'll justuse them an example. You may
not like you might PGA Tour more. Whatever you want, there's a lot
of majors on the Lift Tour.They've disrupted the golf world. They have.

(02:40:11):
They have completely disrupted, whether youlike it or not, they have
And here with the ashes, Ithink they needed a disruption. I do,
and I still think they do,and I still think they can win
the division. I still think theycan make the playoffs. But they need
some kind of disrupt And he maybe in the clubhouse now, I don't
know. I do know this though. The buzz you start to hear is
it feels like people are missing theleadership from mild Nato more than they're hating

(02:40:33):
the production at the plate. Doesthat make sense? Now? I don't
listen. You don't want him swingin a bat, but hell if he
was just around right, there's somethingto be said for that. And they
you know, sometimes you can justwin with your catcher hitting one because he
made up for it. Now you'renot getting back. You got to move
on. That's another thing. There'sno rearview mirror here. You got to

(02:40:54):
move on. Nobody cares about therearview mirror. But he did bring a
sense of we're not going to talkrate that and I don't know who it
is. And while there's been trending, really good trends lately for the team.
The consistent trend has to be ten, twelve, fifteen out of eighteen,
and you're getting good some places,and then somebody gets banged up and

(02:41:15):
somebody has a bad back into thebullpen and maybe a slow start or the
runners in scoring positions. So there'sbeen some good stuff to like, but
there's also been the one thing thatnobody's been able to put their finger on
is the leadership and who it is? Yeah, period the whole year.
And that's coming from the experts whowatch it every day, right, and
we also around it every day.Well's heard Steve Sparks talk about it at
eight thirty and he's one of theexperts I'm talking about And I asked him

(02:41:37):
and he's not sure yet who itis. Ond it that's pretty That's a
big tell for me about the team. Yeah, when a guy's around the
ball club every day. Let's getto the final segment here on a Monday
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women's basketball about how we watch itright There is no more popular and no
more impactful person on the on basketballright now in the NBA or WNBA than

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her. People are talking more aboutCaitlin Clark and what she did a couple
of nights ago by selling out.They had to move to a different arena
because she sold out over twenty twothousand from a get from a seat arena
that was just under five thousand.Yes, they're talking more about this than
they are about the NBA Finals rightnow, and they're also talking about it
like the players and people who arelike, well, she doesn't deserve it,

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and maybe maybe she doesn't, butif you just want to even enhance
it even more, people were gonnawatch, You're gonna look, you're gonna
view it different now that she's notthere. You us realize people in Paris,
when the twenty twenty four Olympics arehere, they are gonna go to
those games just in hopes of gettingto see her play for two minutes.
She'll be one of the five mostpopular athletes over there. Yeah, at

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any sport. But then you knowwhat else is gonna happen. They're gonna
say, Oh, Kelsey Plumb's alsoon this team, I might like Kelsey
Plumb. Oh Ajeia Jackson's on thisteam, I might like her. I
want to see her play. Shedoes right, it just makes everybody better,
so stupid and brings more attention toeverybody's game. And quit talking these
these these women for that that continueto want to push her aside. Quit

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talking as if the girl can't play, that she's some hack. I'm gonna
tell you what, You better gether now, because she is gonna eventually
get you, because she can play, and she's eventually gonna be a great
player in the league. I justdon't understand the resistance that I have never
seen a group of people in asport that hate somebody that's brought. When
I say hate, maybe that's ahard word that I don't think, maybe

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despise, whatever it is that haveresisted somebody who's brought so much attention,
And well, isn't she the firstperson I mean, isn't she the fastest
in WNBA history to a certain amountof points rebounds or assists in WNBA history.
Yes, so she's a hack.Huh, So she's gonna hurt your

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team, She's not only putting moremoney in your guys back pocket, more
attention when she walks up. Maybethey're jealous that when she walks off the
bus in France that everybody's gonna wantto talk to her, which all it
does is bring more attention to yourindividual games. I don't get it.
And I've never seen a sport withmore hatred towards one of their own than
this sport. Have you no?Colectively, they are the biggest haters on

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the plane. It's not and it'snot close, and not just in sports,
just in everything, just in everything. Yeah, it's it's it's baffling.
Those two teams that played. Itwas the Indiana Fever that the Caitlyn
Clark is on and then the otherteam that I forgot who it was,
and because you don't care who itis below both teams were below five hundred.
One team won three games and theother one twenty two. And they

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had to move it to a biggerarena. And you know the way say
again you don't remember who they played? No, I don't even Oh what
a shot, And all it doesis bring it because there's a lot of
great players understand the marketing and whatyou're trying to accomplish. Here the bigger
picture, they're gonna win a goldmedal whether Kaylen Clark shows up there or
not. If they don't then theythere, then they're horrible. They suck.

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They should dominate. If they don'tdominate. But also the bigger picture,
take the gold medal and then enhanceyour brand where everybody else gets paid.
We get to see a bunch ofother players. It is the reason
why you don't know because until KitlynClark came around, you didn't care that
the hard fact. If she walkedaway from the league, now guess what
you wouldn't do again. Here's right, here's another thing. Right. There

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was a game, and I knowwe got a got here. There was
a game a couple of games agowhere she showed up early to come out
for pregame warm ups. There waslike fifty six kids waiting for her for
autographs. But you know what theyalso did. They also wanted autographs from
the other player. What a shockten hance it. I listen, those
kids have no idea who the otherplayers are, but they want their autographed

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because they see they're playing against andwith Kaitlyn Clark. Rarely do needle movers
come along that move the needle justby their presence alone. And her game's
pretty damn good. When I wasgrowing up, I didn't know a lot
about golf, but I remember whenTiger Woods and then you know who I
who I who? I learned fromTiger Woods, Phil Mickelson, and then
then all of a sudden, nowyou're watching Xander Shafles of the world and

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Roy McElroy's of the world. They'reall really good players. They just didn't
get the attention. Jack Nicholas waspretty impressive, wasn't they But it still
took Tiger Woods to elevate it toanother level. Stupid. They just they
just don't get it, have someperial. They don't have a feel.
I feel, man, Wherewithal you'dwatch the Olympic, I'm telling you'd watch
it. Clark would at the Olympics. I promise that maybe more than you'll

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watch the men play. That's afact Jack. We'll talk more about that
tomorrow because I know this stuff's gonnago on all day. Fact Jack that's
gonna do it. He's shown Salisbury. Manila Moore is our producer I Brian
Lille. But thank you for listening. We're back tomorrow morning at six am.
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