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June 23, 2025 • 154 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salisbury Salisbury Hot, Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury to usc True's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Sean Serania reporting the Rockets did it.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
They pulled off the trade to get Kevin Durant, Jalen Green,
Dylan Brooks the tenth pick overall in five second round picks, going.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Back to Phoenix to get KD to Houston to one,
and Dubon drives a pretty deep to left field.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
It sents back ward, still going back on the warning
track at the Wall Sea Atlanta, Mauricio Dubon goes deep
for the fourth time this year.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
This could be two in the game. Dickodson l in fantastic.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
Tigertown is title town again as the Boys bring the
eighth World Series title back to the VYU. And that's
rocketed deep to left center field. Back on it as
ward and he will watch that one go. Jeremy Paynia
with the second home run of the inning for the

(01:21):
Astros and we're tied at two. Paynia is eleven with
one pot, but he can come back.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Not to be believed.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
The two to one and Duban smashes it deep to
left ward, going back on the warning track at the wall.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
He leaves it. It's gone.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Burratio Duban's second home run of the day is a
two run shot, and the Astros reek lay the league.
They're up six to five. Dubon's fifth of the year
run it.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
Out thunder taken the NBA by storm for the first time.
The NBA champion resides at Oklahoma City. The story book season.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Is complete three one and trout lanxis when in the
center Myers coming in, he's there, makes the catch it.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
That is the ballgame.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
The Houston Ashros hold on and defeat the Los Angeles
Angels eight to seven.

Speaker 7 (02:28):
Yes, and if you are not a sports fan whatsoever,
which number one, you probably wouldn't be listening to us.
But number two, I feel bad for you because yesterday,
this weekend, all of it encompassing it absolutely ruled. And
with that we say away we go in good morning
here on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
What's up, dude? I mean, just yesterday, could you have
dreamt of.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
A butter na over their hammer and went out because
you're LSU Tigers? One another time it didn't hurt because
that cat's will ramping it up a buck one in
college dude of like, okay, go do your thing. And
that ball was felt like it was moving four feet
when it leaves the strikes and you know when he
a high fastball, when he threw the high cheese y.
I digress, But yeah, he was a good day, especially
for LSU fans. And if you like college baseball, another

(03:15):
good one. Bad you can't run it. Whether you like
the Coastal Carolina manager or not. Can't run him in
a first inning. We'll discuss that throughout though, So yeah,
it was a good sports statement.

Speaker 7 (03:24):
I did like his quote that he had though about
the umpire that fell over, and that's what was going
to get him the two game suspension, because you get
ejected in college sports, you're already suspended for the next
match game, whatever it might be after that. Anyway, it's
like a targeting rule, but there is that because then
the umpire will hold up two fingers to say that's
a two game suspension for that. And Kevin Schnall is

(03:46):
the head coach at Coastal Carolina and his line after
the game was, it's not my responsibility for somebody else's athleticism.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Or locked thereof right, it's true the fact. So whether
you like it or not, that's not the way you start.
You've got to be more patient and give some latitude
to both teams early and you got to let him
cuss you out if it's not you know what I'm saying.
Early on, you got to you gotta say a little
paid okay, get it out of your system, but don't
come back here again the second time or you will
get run. But regardless, LSU, congratulations as there, they're a

(04:16):
great baseball program with the eighth times World Series champions.
I do have a question for you, though, please I'm coming.
I'm coming right out and jumping on. It's do you
do good videos? You're heading home?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Right, dude?

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Where do you buy your hats? Because that's the biggest
brim of a hat. The hat is four inches wider
than your head. Yeah, you don't exactly have a skinny head.
I don't have a skinny head.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
You're thick. You know what I'm saying. You got I
got a dude. The brim looks like it looks like
a from Sandlot.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
But it looks like the brim looks like somebody stuck
a plate on your on the brim on the hat.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
I've always like you a flat brim guy.

Speaker 7 (04:59):
I am a flat brim guy just because I like
going back to the baseball days. You get unimpeded vision
right there. I got you from the days of pitching.
But then also too, you know, it looks a little.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Bigger on video, but yeah, I thought it was a
ten gallon baseball cap or like one of those what
do they call the big hats sombreros are you'd be
like the floppy hats, the not not not like you know,
you're talking about the ones you're like you'll get at
the at a ball game that gives.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
You the foam finger, but the foam hat.

Speaker 7 (05:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I forget what they call
those hats, but like they become, yeah, they become really popular.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I forget who it was. Do you just get a change?

Speaker 5 (05:39):
I did?

Speaker 7 (05:40):
Yeah, I feel like this new one better. I feel like,
well fair well because like we were in stereo there
for a second. But now, but Triple is on top
of it.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Shock he always is, he always is.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
So just I was just checking on the brimy, just
just checking them because I'm telling you, dude, you could
eat a meal off that brim cap.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
You got normal size of it? What size is your slaphead?
This is seven and a half. So I got a
crazy bit tight or gives you a little Lea'm not
I'm not quite Bruce Boach. Yeah, you do get it. Yeah,
I love you, dude. Who is dude? I've my birthday
was here.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
We were celebrating in Scottsdale, you know, because the giants
were out there. Yeah, and Boaches and we're having and
we went out and of course in spring training when
you had a day off the next day and you're
with good buddies.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
We and it was my birthday, so he had no choice.
Good time.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
So we celebrated and drank and kept drinking and drank
and got our you know, our person who doesn't drinks
ride back home to a buddy's of mind. So we're
having an after party celebration, nice laughing, and I finally
looked at him with all the because I've no boachs,
because he's a sandy, you know, I played in sand
when I was in San Diego. Was there, And I
finally looked at him, and man, we've had a good time.

(06:48):
We're just laughing and joking and it was all in
good fun. But I looked at him and said, man,
I did, I said, I mean, your head comes in there.
It's like the two biggest heads that I ever seen.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Where O J.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Simpson him OJ said, came in the room four minutes before,
and I looked at boats.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I said, that's like a force sliced toaster head. It
really is.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Now, think about a big force sliced toaster a big dress. Yeah,
I'm telling you, dude, he couldn't get a concussion. You
can hit boats with the fastball, and the fastball would
the ball would explode right now. Oh dude, he's just
we're laughing. The point is, dude, you can't imagine you
think your head's you got a little bit of a slab.
That thing is enormous. There's a lot of brain in

(07:28):
there too. But one of the great, great good dudes
in those sports world. But you know how sometimes you
drink in the Trees's like.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
You know what, you got a big ass force liiced
toaster head. And he just had that boat.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
He laughed, Go but man, no, yours, dude, yours looks
like a like give it a whale a tick tack
your head compared to his But yeah, I mean you
gott a you got a big you got a big,
a big melon.

Speaker 8 (07:51):
I do.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
And that's a good thing though it is. Did it
fits your bible?

Speaker 4 (07:56):
You would look weird if you were wearing like a
six and seven eighths hat saying.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
It would look weird.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
It'd be like it'd be like that small head on
on the the uh Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones
and that what's that thing they do?

Speaker 1 (08:09):
You the guy with the small head behind the counter.
It would look weird. But your head fits the body.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
But I just want to because your brim on the
on the video, that's that's an eight course meal on
that bro.

Speaker 7 (08:19):
I was gonna say it's it definitely uh because I
mean it is just a normal size hat. But it
definitely does look like I am wearing like one of
those white mask masks.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Take the sideways uh sun out too, you know, like
the sunglass who wrap around or have the squared off
so it doesn't get into your into your iris.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
But congratulations to you, brother, and uh, I'll tell you
what I was focused in on the medello on another
video you did you know saw the medello with the
l s U in the back to a celebratory beer.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Well that's good Mexican beer for you. Focused in. Just
a good day for.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
LSU fans, sports fans, Astros fans did it at the plate,
Rockets fans. Yes, interesting trade though, interesting trade that we're
going to dive and do deep today. So a lot
going on man football right around the corner.

Speaker 9 (09:08):
So here we are.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean he touched on it.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
The Astros able to win that series, that was nice,
I mean, and no thanks to Nolan Shanonwell, like what
is it about certain guys with the Astros like Ty
France all those years, Nolan Shean and well I'm trying
to remember who it was for the longest time. I mean,
Pooholes always got him. But Adam Dunn used to always
really have their number.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
And he lives in Houston now and just gets to
rub it in because he's got his son to hell
of a two sport athlete, that's no surprise. Yeah he
was too, Yeah, hell of a quarterback. He could only
hit it. He made the right decision for longevity. Yeah
hit it about four hundred miles. So the kids a
really good athlete. But yeah, so done gave them fits
here too as well. He also played the bartender in

(09:50):
Dallas Buyers Club. There you go, and our our buddy,
Butch Guotzman is in that scene too. Butch will tell
you that too. Hey brother, hey brother, you know you
know I was in that.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I was in that scene. That's the one with McConaughey.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Right.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, that's a good, good movie. Underrated movie. It is
an underrated movie.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
It was pretty good.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
So yeah, Adam Dune, Yeah, I'm trying to think who
else can fits? Well, we saw the fits of the
Oakland A's what's his name? Uh for Oakland gave them
in the previous areesh the kid's name?

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Oh Nick Kirk, Yeah, Kurtz. Maybe he's gonna be a one. Yeah,
they're those guys.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Well it's like, right, yeah, there you go, and uh
it's uh it was with the Angels, I'm saying, you know,
and losing what ran our best around Washington as he
gets healthiest too.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
You don't like to see that. Washed is such a
good dude.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
But win the series and something you've been begging for,
although you don't want it to be at the expensive pitching.
Pitching wasn't at its best over the weekend. They were
not at their best overall.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
Friday the stuff we used to right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Friday Friday night, the bullpen was fantastic. I mean, Sean
Duben a little shaky, but I mean Brian King comes in,
he does a job. Bennett's sus so, yeah, he's been great.
Like Bennett, Sue says. The guy that you tell them
every single time, Hey, the tenth thinning, you got it?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Goes and does it? Hey, you got it? Okay?

Speaker 4 (11:05):
I mean, and that's I mean those guys who don't
It doesn't matter what the number is at the inning.
You just know you've got to get some people out right,
And that's that that almost for if you're in a
relief situation, does it really matter You're going to throw
the same pitches in the tenth inning that you throw
in the fifth, depending on the matchup and the guy
you're facing through your study, So.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I don't care the inning, dude, you gives it? Mean,
how many outs you need? Three? I'm okay, then that's
what I'm going to do. Without allowing to running.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
The point is that they weren't as sharp starting pitching
as we're used to seeing, right, in a couple of
the in a couple of the last hand, you know,
three or four games, but the things that you asked
for to get the get the hitters to carry the
pitching for a minute, and now when both can come
together where they feel like they got to carry the
other one but they really don't because both are pulling
their weight. That's the next level. But you win a

(11:52):
series and move on and then it's capped by the
mid day. Oh wow, they did pull off Kevin Durant,
and we can into the reasons why they did it
and did they win this. I think you can win
on the short term without winning on the long term.
I think that's where we're headed with this conversation.

Speaker 7 (12:10):
We definitely do have some thoughts on that. And I
believe a special Steve Sparks at seven am this morning.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Seven am, Yeah, just so, I mean, you got to
adjust your schedule to divas man.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
The truth is, it's can you guys get me in early?

Speaker 9 (12:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
He's the good charity event I think today for Steve,
and in truth, he's about the least diva guy we'll
ever have, the least about a diva they'll ever be.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
So we'll move it around days or time for him. Oh,
I'll get him at seven. That's not true.

Speaker 7 (12:41):
I've heard him with the parking guy at Dyke In
Parks say there's a brown Audie parked in my spot.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I want it Tod immediately. Do you know who I am?
That's sparky all the way right.

Speaker 7 (12:51):
That is so sparky with us hearing about forty five
minutes for his weekly visit. We always look forward to
catching up with him. The thunder NBA champions a lot
to get into, but normally we go Astros here, especially
after the weekend they just had, which we will get
into the Astros. But that Kevin Durant trade, I think
there's a couple of things at play here. We'll talk

(13:13):
about it right here. Sean Salisbury show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
This is Craig Visio. Oh, you're listening to Sean Salisbury
on Sports Talk seven ninety. Oh, so you're home of
the stros It.

Speaker 7 (13:30):
It was a nooner and pulling out of my neighborhood
and I've got the station on. So we've got Fox
Sports going and you know they do one of their
little uh you know, news breaks there and it was
breaking news. Kevin Durant has been traded. And as soon
as I heard that, that's the old you know, turn
up the dial a little bit, you know, I want
to hear this to the Houston Rockets, and I was like,
oh my gosh. So then immediately it's well, what's the package.

(13:54):
Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks, the tenth pick overall in this
upcoming draft which will be on Wednesday, and then five
at second round picks heading back to the Phoenix Suns
immediately when the deal is made. Jalen Green to me
at first was a little bit of a surprise, but
then it really wasn't once I started to think about
it a little bit.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
No, no surprise, maybe a little bit if he'd have
been gone in somewhere was a lesser star power name
Kevin Durantz thirty six.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I have mixed emotions about this. I do.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
I don't think there's any question. You know, we know
last offseason the talker, are you gonna move him in?
During the season, even at the beginning of the year,
they hung in there boom when I got on fire,
he's improved, meaning Jalen Green. I think the Golden State Series,
if they were sitting on the fence about the future
move him.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
If he plays really good.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Basketball in five of those games of the seven, I'm
not sure he's gone right now. I think in postseason
it's heightened, its hyper sensitive. You start to look at
guys the way we judge is that who he is?
Is he a regular season All American? But the postseason
just he disappears. They meant that made it easy for

(15:06):
the door to stay open and in truth, right now,
as we sit today, Kevin Durant gives you a better
chance to win than Jalen Green does. He's been in him,
he's big moments, one of the best closers we've had
in NBA history.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
We know about that.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
What are you going to get on the buy in?
I'm sure he will, Udoka will give him buy in.
I'm talking about the buying on the defensive end from
can he still do it? You know when he puts
his mind to it in the past, he's been, He's
long and is able to do it. But the perimeter defense,
how how much can he give you or is he will?

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Hopefully a lot?

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Hopefully it's rejuvenated and revitalized. But we've had this message,
We've had this question about Durant a handful of times
where he's gone, so on the the initial part of
it over the neck. This is a think about this,
even though not the contract, but think about the mentality
of this trade is simply this, in my opinion, is

(15:58):
it an upgrade for the next year and a havel
to two years? It absolutely is. It absolutely is. You're
talking about a top twenty five player of all time.
I think in most people's mind at least score and
shooter her right. And he's got championships, so he's in
the team picture, right and once he got left or
where's the enthusiasm? Does he feel like he has unproven
Kevin Durant. Sure, but think about this like you would

(16:21):
a rental in baseball, but not candidate's Oh you get
him half season, he's gone because of money. You got
him under contract. But you got to start to think.
Kevin Durant's thirty six and so this is in my opinion,
it's a two year I think the windows open a
lot longer for the for the Rockets, but with Kevin
Durant on the roster, this window is a two year window.

(16:42):
So don't don't start looking at thirty nine years old
because he's had trouble closing in a couple places, meaning
his team in places not named Golden State and in
Phoenix where they just haven't been able to. So that
guy is the one who's supposed to get you over
the top. Phoenix got him to get him over the top,
right they just did. When Brooklyn, I mean, we start

(17:03):
to look around the teams that win got gotten to
get over the top. Golden State got him to add
to what was already a monster franchise. So here we
are thirty six. He'll gonna he's gonna fall out of
bed and get you twenty five.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
So you get that.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
And the guy who wants the ball at the end
still is Kevin Durant, and that's a good thing. We've
seen him handle it from the point and dribble up
there and be the facilitator when he was in Golden
State when he needed to do it. So it's two
your window if they make the playoffs or get to
the Western Conference Finals and lose in the next tw
year's this trade. Normally I wouldn't say this, but considering
the rental part of it of his career because his

(17:37):
age and with the window you're looking at for him
to be still a fairly dominant player on the offensive
end this two year window.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
If you just make the playoffs, it's a failed trade.
It just is now. If you go close it out
and win, then it was worth it no matter what happens.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
If Jalen Green goes on and wins the MVP three
times in a row and Dylan Brooks is an All
Star and after you win it, the help Phoenix win
it two years later, it's still that both teams won.
I'll always take the ring over what if anytime, But
if they don't, you're gonna go back into five second
round picks, two first round picks. Dylan Brooks, who while
out of Superstar, is a player that do you mean?

(18:15):
He's got basketball skill, He's an agitator, he's a good
you know, one of those guys you love on your
team you hate playing against him. And Jalen Green, if
he can ever get his postseason mox hip in consistency,
he may end up being a top ten scorer in
the league.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
He's got that skill set.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
So to me, it's on the short term. Rockets win it.
If they win an NBA title, be worth it for
the next twenty five years. No matter what happens. If
they don't, just getting there will not be enough. Like
for instance, when I say the Astros, and I know
the Rockets aren't Astros yet, but we're starting to think
along that line getting better every year. They had, you know,
second best record in the West this year, boom boom boom,
boom boom, and you start to look at the youth

(18:50):
and the guy who's running the team, not only in
the front office but the head coach. Okay, yeah, this
is the windows open. But the Kevin Durant window on
this franchise is two. If they don't win it, it's
not a good trade. If they do it, and just
getting there will not be enough because they didn't. If
you just want to get there, Jalen Green can get
you the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
This is get win it.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
And it's a window, and they saw the opportunity and
it's an expensive window. But if all of a sudden,
three years, if you say sean five years from now,
it's a five Kevin Drant, it's gonna be her toll.
He's forty three. If that was the trade that you
think it's a four or five years away, I don't
make that trade. But on the urgent, and now you
have to do it because of who the guy is

(19:32):
and the game he still got left. If this is
two years from now, I don't make it, but you
have just getting there will out be good enough because
their team's good enough to get there regardless of making
any trade. And by the way, they still have plenty
of firepower to go get the other guy if they want.
If they want, they do have enough firepower and assets.
That's why you gather all these assets to do this.
Now Phoenix will probably you know, put some together and

(19:55):
use some of those second round picks to trade up
in the first round or give them to somebody else
to get another player. But I like it now, but
it's a window and it's not I like it because
they got to the playoffs. I need them winning the
Western Conference and representing the Western Conference. Then that validates
why you went and got him, because if you didn't,
you'd be saying, let's fight through the Jalen Green stuff.
In two years from now, may be he may be

(20:17):
one of the best closers in the league if he
can get over that Golden State Series.

Speaker 7 (20:20):
This is the Justin Verlander trade. August of twenty seventeen
without it being about a contract inning. It's the Justin
Verlander trade or the Randy Johnson gets that. It's the
Justin Verlander trade. Window wise, Yes, you knew you had
a chance with the Astros. They got him, and they
went and got it. You know you have a chance
already without Kevin Durant.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
You go get him.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
This is that you know, when you're putting those four
hundred piece puzzles together and at the end there's always
one missing and you look on it, you can't find it,
and it's under part of the table that you just
couldn't find. Oh, there it is, and you put it
in as a final piece. Right now they're holding that
piece and it's Kevin Durant. The question is is it's
gonna fit and if it does. Sounds cheesy, but it's
a fact getting to the playoffs or winning a couple

(21:01):
series and it will not be enough. You brought this
guy into Verlander it that's exactly why he's here. And
if you don't Kukuchie, it was great on the surface,
right over the long haul. It's not the great trade
because we didn't get to resign him. But this isn't
about the money part. This is about the age and
where Kevin Durant is an elite player at to win.
So I just say two years a guy can still

(21:22):
score so and it's a better He's better than Jalen
Green right now, well two years from now. I think
that we'll look at if they didn't win a championship
say wish we wouldn't have made it, But you gotta
go all it. I do love the fact that they
decided we're not waiting until twenty twenty eight. There's an
opportunity here. Durant wants to be here. Let's go pull
this off and see what we got. But to pull

(21:43):
it off is to win and hoist the trophy like
Oklahoma City did that? Did they doing it? You want
exactly what happened to Oklahoma City. That's exactly what you want.
You want a Men Thompson to be your star and
Kevin Durant to be the early star. But as you
grow the untouchable, you want the shen good. I mean,
you look at a starting five dude, and if they

(22:04):
get the production from the bench, this is a.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Good team and they do have a lot of firepowers.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
So to me, this is a you need win it
will validate it and then you never have to don't
worry about what the other eight guys do. Ten guys,
don't worry about it. Let it what it would be.
Nine guys, five, two and two. So there you go,
two current and five draft pick. There's seven draft picks,
so don't worry about that. And it doesn't even matter
if where they go to the Phoenix Suns that they
win one after you. The key is if you win one.

(22:29):
This trade was worth it. But I think when you
look at skill set wise, it's about a two year
goal with him and then you can replace them go
because they're young enough to carry this where the window
stays open. But you got to approach it like Oklahoma
City Star carry it deep bench, dude. Look at what
they did last night with Dort and chet Holmger on
the defensive end. Now we can give I know, the

(22:50):
MVP and Gilgess Alexander the defensive end last night they
thwarted and having no Tyrese Haliburt other than the first
seven minutes obviously, so on good luck to him because
it sounds like it's and Achilles, Yeah, but it's just
and it was the defen the effort in block shots
and getting up and down the floor. They went in
the fourth quarter, minute after minute after minute. They tried
to let Indiana back into it. They couldn knock down,
they didn't get him score basket. They're getting free throw.

(23:12):
They could score basket. And then Holmegrin got a dunk.
But it was the defensive end. So that's what you're going.
You're looking for the one or two pieces and they believe,
and so I think all of us do that Kevin
Durant in the next two years and can get through.
If you're looking at twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight,
I would suggest you'll say no. If you're looking at
the next two years, that windows there. I think you
have no choice but to go get Kevin Durant. And

(23:33):
I think that, you know, just for the pieces that
were in this trade. A lots being said about that,
and I think that it is very explainable what the
Rockets did.

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Speaker 1 (25:48):
Chris this morning wants to weigh and Chris, good morning.
How you doing?

Speaker 10 (25:54):
Ernest?

Speaker 1 (25:55):
What a great move. Buffao.

Speaker 11 (25:57):
Stone is a and prose mode aggressive hell making big
time moves, and guys, I was kind of nervous the
think wouldn't be able to pull this out because san Antonio,
I think, had more to offer than the Rockets, and
I thought maybe the Spurs would take their offer, or
even possibly Miami would come in with a bigger offer
and try to sneak in and take Durant. But man

(26:17):
Stone is a killer. Loved that he pulled it off. Guys,
there was only two untouchables on this roster as we
all know, Seng Gooon and Amen, and we didn't have
to depart with them. Jalen Green I think eventually will
be a star, but I think maybe he needs to
go elsewhere, like somewhere like Phoenix. I think perfect playing
with Booker, he can thrive and as far as losing Brooks,
I can pass on him sort of a less skilled

(26:38):
Green and we obviously the twos or second round ficks
will pass on that as well. So overall, you look
at Kevin Durant, to me, he's motivated as hell because
ever since he left Golden State, it's been a complete
disaster for him.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
He's one of the all time greats.

Speaker 11 (26:51):
And then people just look at him as a guy
who you know now at this point just you know,
gets into Twitter battles with anonymous people, and he's still
an all time great and you put him on this
team now where he's not. Let's face, he's not really
a leader, never has been. He's just an all time
great player.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
He's the one.

Speaker 11 (27:06):
Closer, missing piece that we needed because you watch these playoffs,
what do you need with like Okay, see just wanted
You need it closer at the end of games and
KD can still do that at a high level, and
you put him on this team with this roster, I
think they can compete with Okay, scene and anybody else
to come out of the West. The one thing, guys
that makes me nervous, and I was telling a lot
of my rocket friends who were going nuts about this
trade is durability has been a problem for him. So

(27:29):
if you're if you're emy, Dokah is one of the
best coaches and deserved that new contract, massive contract. ESTENTI
you got, you got to be able to space his minute, guys,
because he's had a durability problem and yet thirty seven
years old, he's kind of riddle. When he's on the court,
he's still as good as anybody in terms of he's
a walking bucket. To me, he's the best mid range
scorer I think we've ever seen outside of Larry Birds. So, guys,

(27:51):
that's the one thing that makes me nervous him. Can
he stay healthy not only through the regular season, the
grind of two months of the playoffs and getting through
a brutal Western Conference and then whoever comes out of
the East is one of.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
The only thing that makes me nervous.

Speaker 11 (28:03):
But overall, if you tell me they're healthy, I think
they can beat okay See and anybody else because I
just think with this new era with the salary cap,
I think the dynasty thing and even though now they're
saying with okay See, I don't know if that's gonna
happen anymore because let's base it. Okay, see probably should
have lost at Denver in the second round. They really
got a gift there in game five. So guys, I'm pumped.

(28:23):
I can't wait to see it. And and the Rockets
are not gonna be done because Rockbaelstone the one thing
we know of him, Like Presty, he's aggressive, He's gonna
make more moves and he's gonna until he stacked titles.
And I think that's the thing I love about me
and email Duca is as a master coach. So guys,
I'm pumped about this. I can't wait to see it.
Then if knock on wood Man, all we need is
KD to stay healthy because if he does, I honestly

(28:44):
think we got a title contending team in my mind,
Am I am? I just have my rose colored glasses on?

Speaker 12 (28:50):
Or do you guys agree things?

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Chris Chris great, appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
I can tell you this that that that's why and
that is it for Durant And that's why I've put
a two year window on it.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Not with the team.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
The team is going to go on and build because
they've built it the right way. This is the piece
the rental, and the rental, in my opinion, is a
two year window if he stays, and that's the if,
and hopefully he will, and he does not have to.

Speaker 9 (29:13):
Be the leader.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
He doesn't have to shoulder that. That head coach has
got plenty. He's plenty of leader for you. And you've
got Van Vliet who's been in Champion. Now you start
to see how they accumulated him right in this trade.
The Dylan Brooks part of it is not hampering your franchise.
It's what's Jalen Green going to turn into And man,
look how he was improving here. Do we really want
to do this on the short term? You've upgraded your team.

(29:35):
In the short term, you just have you get one
of the best closers of all time.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
You just do.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Now, he's not twenty five year old Kevin Durant, but
I can tell you what maturity was he is. And
now when you got other people to get him the
ball on his spot and do what he needs to do.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
If he can stay healthy.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
And the minutes will be managed, I would imagine properly
that window with Durant, the window will still be open.
The window with Durant, I think it's two years and
I think it's two years Max.

Speaker 13 (29:58):
With that.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Now he may go and find the you know, the
fountain of youth and go about it.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
But you have to you have to approach it, and
you're the way you coach it and the way you
build it. That with Durant, this piece of the puzzle
is a is a window that we got to We
we got to get in and jump out. Get in,
take care of our business, go win a championship, and
that will validate what we did, and then we'll worry
about all the other assets we gave up later. You
won't worry about it because you've done the ring. Now

(30:26):
is more important to me than if they didn't. They
won the ring and then they made the playoffs, missed
the playoffs, got to the Western con You know, if
they didn't win another championship for five years and this
ring mattered in the next two the trade was worth it.
So I'm I'm with Chris.

Speaker 9 (30:40):
I do I like it.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
It excites me.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
There's always going to be ifs when you go get
a star, you're always if you traded for Joe LMB,
when you traded for Anthony Davis. Now Durant's a little
more durable than they are. But he is also right
and I said it earlier aside from Golden State.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Since then, it's been a.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Right and we've talked more about their playoff championship Taliber
team that he's been on. We've talked more about the
Rabbit Ears, and he gets in it. You know, like
Chris said about battling people on Twitter. Oh, he's still
doing it.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
I saw it this morning.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
He will regularly, but I think that fuels him. I
think if he's not battled on Twitter, he almost needs that.
Oh okay, your questioning, they'll go get forty on you.
He can score, and that's what he's brought here to
do and to bring closing leadership and the ability to say,
thirty six, give me the ball. We'll take care of
this at the end. So in the short term, this
was an outstanding trade for the Rockets. In the long term,

(31:35):
if you win a championship, it doesn't matter in the
show because they still got bodies.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
But he's right.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Thompson, Durant and shng Gun literally give you three all
star type players.

Speaker 7 (31:46):
Happiest guy in the building player wise yesterday, Jabari Smith Junior.
Because I got to tell you the directive as soon
as Kevin Durant is introduced and you say, hey, you're
working out here, Jabari Smith Junior, eight am the mall morning.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
You're with that guy. I would if I was.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Him, I'd follow Kevin Durant until Kevin Durant said, Jabari
go home. Okay, we're in the gym shooting together. Talk
about this how to attack a team because Jabari Smith
has three in the ability. He's obviously a hell of
a why you drafted him. He can fill it. He's
got energy and he can play the defensive end. Which
is the greatest improvement on this team is their commitment

(32:23):
to go and getting young stud players and not waiting
for three more years or Felstone to say, Okay, maybe
then it'll be a go get the guy now and
let's let it rip because you're that close after what
you saw in the playoffs. But this team, I love
that they're not passive, that they're going after it and
they've sent a lowed message.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
They listen. They're not crazy enough to.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Think the windows open for eight more years with Durant,
maybe open for the Rockets, but not with Durant. So
you're doing it because you think we're close, and that
guy's the one that gets us over them. It's the
rental in baseball move without it being contract related.

Speaker 7 (32:56):
Well, I mean it's also to somebody that's done it.
I mean, even you know what you said.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
He should be hungry.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
You had thirty six most guys Hall of Fame career,
everything he's done, the accolades, everything, you know, podcast, all
the things he's doing. He should be hungry because people
are questioning, is who is Kevin Durant now on a
good team again.

Speaker 7 (33:14):
Oh and that's something that's a buddy of mine brought
up yesterday, was it's a friend of mine that's a
Warriors fan. I said, I'm going to be honest, I
was kind of surprised that he wasn't you know about
going back there, and he was like he's won it here,
Like he's he's already shown he can win. I think
a little bit of that ego kind of came in
of no, you know what, let me prove that I
can do it somewhere else and pretty much on my own.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
What is also the talk about KD unfortunately around the NBA,
whether it's Shaq and Charles Show, anywhere, great player, great
talent love and I do love dude. He's a stone
cold sniper killer. When he's got the ball in his hand,
it's a closing but he just is. But there's still
whether people like it that here's Lebron the second best
player of all time possibly And what do you still

(33:56):
say after this long career that you hear people say, yeah,
but he had with players he couldn't stay in the
same place like Johannis did.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Right, fair enough, And they're.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Saying the same thing about Drant because when he went
to Golden State, I don't know Draymond Green and Klay
Thompson and Steph Curry, two of the three are for
sure Hall of famers, first before Draymond, but earlier point.
But I'm just going to tell you watch dude, because
of his versatility and his longevity, he's going to get in.
When he went there, you just add he wasn't the puzzle.

(34:25):
He just added the final piece. So they already were good.
Now you want to come here and say, oh, the
ash is a good with the Ashers, the Rockets are
good with their young. So now I can take it
over there and this will do some taken away, add
some more shine to what's already a shiny career. But
there has been the questions because now when I say, hey,
top five, top ten players in the league, KD is

(34:46):
the He's no longer the automatic top five guy.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
You're thinking Gilgess, Alexander Anthony Edwards, skill set, Nikola Jokic,
you start to go around me, you start to go
around say, oh yeah, Kevin Durant, he can score. I
don't think he wants that because listen, what part of
the things that make him great or he takes that
ego stuff and he utilizes those rabbit ears to his
fullest where some wilt KD will go out and he

(35:11):
lives thrives on that.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
So I'm anxious to.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
See how it works out in the short term. This
trade needed to happen in the post two years. If
you don't win a championship, then we're gonna look back
and say, oh my gosh, Jyleen Green's average in twenty
nine a games somewhere else and they're in the Western
Conference championship. Sure, but the window is there, and I
think it was. I like teams that go for it
and they did not mortgage the future to the point
of they're not very good, they're still pretty good, and

(35:34):
they still have assets in that under their umbrella. They
still have assets to go get pretty good players too. No, absolutely,
I mean the options are still there for him, but
as formidable as there is in the West. And I'm
just telling you, yes, no very long, no doubt. So
you got that going for you, which is nice. We'll
continue the Durant conversation here in the second hour. Do
you want to get into a little bit of astros though,

(35:55):
because we've been asking for it, we got it.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
We'll talk about it right here. It does a Sewn
Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
The Seawn Salisbury Show continues, and it did.

Speaker 14 (36:06):
No.

Speaker 9 (36:06):
No, Now, you know.

Speaker 7 (36:10):
We've been asking for it, we wanted it in Yesterday
thirteen hits eight runs in Mauriceo Dubon not necessarily asking
from Mariseo Dubon, but we've been asking for the bats
to carry us, and he was one of them yesterday
that was swinging larger than normal.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yeah, when Dubon hits two home runs in a game,
good things are happening. Offensively, I don't mean that disrespectful,
but locked in you move Meyers up in the order
a couple more hits. If this is who Jeremy Paine is,
you know, I thought a good year from him. Honestly, Dan,
I would take two eighty from him because I think
that a lot of us thought over the just of
the last couple of years. We'll just look at his

(36:48):
averages during the regular season. Didn't you think if he
hit two seventy five, you're getting to win.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Yeah, and you didn't exist defensive speed on time?

Speaker 4 (36:56):
About the overall pack two seventy five, twenty three home runs,
eighty five RBIs and one hundred runs, Right, that's a
we're looking at something different here.

Speaker 14 (37:05):
Now.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
The dude's up there.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Every he goes, oh for four to one game, come back,
get three hits next game, two hits the next game.
Everything he's doing is elevated the play of this team.
And they did it when they moved him up into
more pressure pack situation, which tells me the dude thrives
in pressure. Keep him there no matter what, put him
under all the rest you can, because he seems to
respond to it. So but you mentioned it, Dubon Homers twice.

(37:26):
Your guy got a couple hits. I think you got
to go at least one yesterday, Christian Walker.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
I know you got to there you go. I thought
it was a huge show, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
You got bullpins, the good stuff, bullpen, you know, like
for instance with Gusto, this is a this kind of
a this kind of explains what we need, what we
were talking about last week. Then give me six innings,
scatter a bunch of hits, give up some runs, which
could you after four and two? Third, Okay, let's get

(37:55):
to the ball six innings, guts through it, hangs in there,
they find a way to get it done, get a
couple of clutch hits and close it out. And it
was a close obviously a close game, but you took
care of it. And winning those type of games is
just as important as going ten to one. The fact
that Gusto had to cut through it, we didn't get
it wasn't the best starting pitching that we're used to performance.

(38:18):
And by the way, but by the way, Zach Needo,
if you're gonna step out in front of home plate
on a ball that was four inches off the plate
and hit you, it would almost hit the bat handley,
and you call that a brushback pitch or he's trying
to throw at you, and you're gonna stand out.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
See these guys that do this, this pillow fighting, guys
that stand out. And I know I don't mean to digress.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
First Off, that country asshoop and you were about to
take wouldn't have been good. Secondly, stepping out in front
of home plate and staring if you're gonna do that,
and I love the hunter Brown walked with him and
walked towards him, didn't say, come get some it's like
you want basically walking towards you. If he was gonna
hit you, he's gonna get more out.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Of it than that.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
A ball that runs in on a two steamer that
he dives over the plate and crowds it and dives
over the plate and it's three inches off the plate
and hits him, And you're gonna sit there and just
step out plate. You must have woke up on the
wrong side of bed. First of all, that's a that's
a probably the wrong place to tread unless you got
teammates that are getting out there with you. Secondly, let's
have some feel, dude, have some feel for the game

(39:17):
and what's going on and the situation you're in and
also who you are. If I'm hitting it ain't it
ain't gonna be you, okay. And I know he homered
at the end of the game yesterday, But to me
this and then they wonder why they get hit even
though it wasn't on purpose. Next time it won't be
in your wrist. My thought process walking away from that,
if you're hunt a Brown is like, really, yeah, yet

(39:39):
next time you won't get you you'll turn your back
on it. Either hit you in the ribs or square
on the back. I'm not giving you a chance to
dive over the plate, okay, So if you really want
to go that way, I couldn't make it a lot
worse on you.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
And it was just a two.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
It gets away, which happens. And if you're gonna be
over to dive over the plate, then guess what. You're
gonna get hit. You're gonna lead the league in getting hit.
So with that in mind, it's just for me the
front frustration of it. But the great thing is fine
in different ways Dubon and Walker, and it's important for
this team and again another series one and another opportunity
to continue to gain ground.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Loved it.

Speaker 7 (40:13):
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(42:52):
and get through it, when he scattering some hits and
they're scoring some runs, and you know, when somebody else different,
Dubon yesterday, Christian Walker start to get a little hotter,
and the way pain is energy, it seems to be
there's always somebody different. But when yesterday or when the
pitching staff starting pitching struggled, the bullpen was there. But
more importantly, the hitting seems to have picked up, even

(43:13):
though it hasn't been consistent.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
It starts to look a little different from my optic Steve.

Speaker 17 (43:18):
You know, you look at that series, and I even
look back at the day before that, because Brandon Walter
didn't pitch that well, right, but he pitched six innings
and they only had to cover eight innings losing on
the road, so you only had to use two believers
the night before, so I think you're always going into
those road series, in particular Sean trying to win those series.
And you win that first one, it's certainly a luxury.

(43:41):
But what Walter was able to do as far as
get deeper into the game despite not having his best stuff,
he got them six innings and you had a loaded
bullpen for yesterday's game and you needed them, yep. And
that's the reason why they won. I mean, what Walter
did the night before is the reason why the Astros
won yesterday.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Steve, are we on pace?

Speaker 4 (43:59):
You probably looked at the metrics of the analytics of
you know, the innings and usage and stuff, which you
do very well. The fresh legs starting pitching, I know,
with the injuries, but also the bullpen. Are we on
pace to say we're not giving them too much usage?
Are we on pace right now? Do you feel good
about the way they're being used?

Speaker 12 (44:18):
I do, you know.

Speaker 17 (44:19):
I think if you're able to keep a little bit
of a cushion, you're going to get creative, I think.

Speaker 9 (44:25):
And that's what the Astros did in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 17 (44:27):
They were more fresh and livelier than anybody else, especially
in the pitching department, because they went to that six
men rotation for more than half the season, and it
was very evident that the Astros were they still had
a lot to go.

Speaker 9 (44:42):
Remember the extra innings.

Speaker 17 (44:43):
Yeah, in Seattle, YEP, there was a famous line by
the Astros pitching coach Josh Miller said, Hey, we still
had one hundred pitches left in our chamber.

Speaker 9 (44:52):
They really did, you know?

Speaker 17 (44:53):
They still had Urkidi and they had somebody else, and
I think they felt very comfortable that they could have
played another five or six innings. So I think that's
the goal for the Astros is to build this lead,
continue to play good baseball. Despite Jordan alvarezby announced it's
May third, I believe it is in Houston, still ten

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games over five hundred in his absence. But if you
can continue to increase that lead, I think you got
a chance to get creative. Maybe skip a guy, start
keep a six man rotation. I'm not sure how this
looks right, but maybe be creative with that injured list.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Steve Sparks Astros broadcasters weekly visit an hour sooner today,
got an event to go through, and we'll we'll change
days or schedule for him anytime. Joins us here on
Sports Talk seven ninety Sean salisby show, Steve, you've been
in playing it and covering it all these years, You've seen,
you know, managers that have to make tough decisions in games.
I was just thinking, you know this morning, how often
you know, somebody reminded me of that.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
How often in a game in a series throughout the season.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
I'm talking about those tough, tough decisions that come within
a game. How often do you see managers happened to
make tough tough decisions in professional baseball?

Speaker 9 (46:04):
You know, in a game to game decisions.

Speaker 17 (46:07):
I think it varies just because you know you're personnel
better than anybody else. And that's probably my favorite question
is to ask a manager of the day after, is
what was your toughest decision yesterday? But when you think
about tough decisions for me, if I was a coach
or a manager, I think the hardest part for me
personally would be releasing guys, you know, especially in the

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minor league.

Speaker 9 (46:31):
I was thinking about this yesterday.

Speaker 17 (46:34):
I played in the California League for three seasons, and
one year I had a minor league coach who had
five kids, and the last three weeks of the season,
his wife decided to take his four youngest kids back
home to Arizona for the rest of the season, and
his oldest kid was nine years old. He ended up
staying with his dad for the rest of the summer,

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so he would be at the ballpark every day, and
we had a great time with him.

Speaker 9 (46:59):
But he just became part of the team.

Speaker 12 (47:01):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (47:01):
And I remember one day in Bakersfield, California.

Speaker 17 (47:04):
We were stretching before batting practice one day and Ben,
the oldest son, he was nine years old, was just
kind of sifting through the rest of the players.

Speaker 9 (47:13):
And now keep in mind, he was around his dad
in the hotel rooms.

Speaker 17 (47:16):
He heard all his dad's conversations on the landline back
in the hotels of those days, talking to the front office.
But he was running around with the guys on the
team and they were punching him and knocking him down and.

Speaker 9 (47:28):
Just having a good time.

Speaker 17 (47:28):
He finally he goes up to this one guy in
our team who was stretching, and he shook his hand
and he said, hey, John, Hey, I'm gonna miss you.
And John goes, oh, Ben, you're you going home with
your brothers and sisters. He goes, no, I'm not going
anywhere you are. He goes what he said, Yeah, I
heard my dad on the phone. Oh my god, getting
released after the game. Oh my god, look at him.

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We're going getting released after the game. And he goes, yeah,
you and Scott both, and then we all looked at
Scott and literally these two guys got up out of
the stretch, went into the coach's office and got released
and we never saw him again. That's how they got
released from professional baseball by a nine year old in
front of their whole team.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Gosh, dang.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Yeah, it's one thing find out on the internet, but
the nine year old's got it before you do. Yeah,
I get the conversation. It's like, hey, breaking news. It's
not Jeff Passon. Happens to be the nine year old
who's the son of a kid out there during batting
practice and you guys are gone. And it's also part
of when you lose teammates like that to go somewhere
else you never see him again. David Craig when I
was my rookie year, he wasn't nice to me during
training camp, and you know what he told me after

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him make a long story short, and he became one
of my dear friends.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
He said, Sean, I.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
Developed these relationships with guys I've learned, and then they
get cut or they're not here, and he goes, and
it bothers me.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
He goes, So I'm a little cold. Once you make
the team.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
He was the first guy to hug me, But during
the whole time I wanted to fight him because he
wasn't talking to me very much.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
It wasn't because of his job.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
He'd been in the league, but he didn't like that
gut wrenching filling of forging relationships and then all of
a sudden, the guy's gone. So making the team made
it a little easier to for forge a long term Yeah,
talk about tough decisions and then having a nine year
old come in. That's not what a manager or teammates
want to hear. I would imagine, Steve right.

Speaker 17 (49:08):
It was brutal though, I mean losing your buddies, you
know along the way through the minor leagues, and you
knew it would never be the same, and you try
to keep in touch, but it's never the same as
when your teammates.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Steve, is this team good enough in your eyes? Right now?

Speaker 4 (49:23):
I'm talking about with the with the injuries they have
right now, And I said, can you see them in
the World Series?

Speaker 1 (49:31):
What's your answer?

Speaker 9 (49:35):
Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 17 (49:35):
I mean I look at everybody. Everybody's got warts Sean,
and I just feel I don't think Jordan's too far away.
And you say, look at them right now, but I
don't think they're too far away from getting their best
hitter back right and I think that's that's gonna make
everybody better. But you look at three guys in particular
offensively for this team, and we've talked enough about the pitching.

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The pitching, there's no question they have is go to pitching.
Is anybody in baseball Amen one through thirteen? Yep, but
they need you or it on.

Speaker 9 (50:06):
But there's three guys.

Speaker 17 (50:07):
In particular, Pana, Myers and Paradus have three of the
top eleven upticks and ops of anybody in all of baseball.
So when you look at those guys and see their improvement,
Jake's got the second best road batting average in baseball
behind Aaron Judge.

Speaker 9 (50:26):
I mean, there's some there's some crazy stuff.

Speaker 17 (50:28):
Kind of going on right now, but you've got enough
guys in there that are putting together some kind of
breakout seasons and it's fun to watch that stuff.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
Steve, he's about eighty or eighty or ninety points higher
than you said when the spring training you said, I
don't care what he hits, the way he plays defense,
we're gonna be fine, and this bonus and blessing. So
you've covered baseball for a long time and watched him
closely since he's been here. Why there's got to be
it's not just always you know the ball's falling where

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they you know where nobody is now what is so
you can't keep hitting it like that and it just
be an aberration at least maybe it can seventy five
eighty games in, but you see.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
It every day.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Why is he better? Why is he making so much contact?
Why is he so confident right now?

Speaker 9 (51:13):
I think he really concentrated on the right things in
the offseason.

Speaker 17 (51:17):
I played against his dad in the minor leagues, and
his dad helped him in the off season talking about
approach and figure out what you hit best, where's your zone,
and concentrate on that early in the count. I think
it's as simple as that. He's swinging at better pitches.
He knows himself better and he's sticking to a plan.

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He's staying up the middle. He's not pulling off, trying
to pull balls up in the air, something that he's
not really good at to begin with. He's just staying
in the middle of the diamond, staying gap to gap,
using his speed, stealing bases, stole two bases yesterday. He's
just doing the things that he's capable of. And to
learn yourself. You know, three or four years in probably

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more hell healthy than he's ever been. I think you're
starting to see somebody is really starting to blossom into
who they can be. And you get, you know, almost
halfway into the season. Now you figure out this guy
is not only one of the best center fielders in baseball,
this guy is starting to be at threat offensively too.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Yeah, no doubt, Steve Sparks. So one final question, Steve,
I know you've got some stuff to do today, is
with this team and the pitching, what do you do
play the game with you speaking to tough decisions. You'd
be the manager and the general manager combined right now.
And we're sitting in a room and all of a sudden, Garcia,
we start to see, you know, he's improving. I don't
know how long it's going to be, but let's just

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the what if game and then Ragetty and then Javier
what pumped it up to ninety five last week?

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Throwing?

Speaker 4 (52:45):
So it doesn't feel maybe I don't know when not far?
Is is it fifteen days? Is it forty five days?

Speaker 9 (52:50):
Too much?

Speaker 4 (52:50):
But let's just say the pitching continues like it has
and these guys are healthy. Talking about tough decisions, how
do you keep a full roster of pitchers in gage?

Speaker 17 (53:01):
I think that usually takes care of itself, number one,
But I mean, you love problems like this right thinking
about Christian Xavier at points at like long term for sure,
and they've they've signed him up and locked him up
to a long term deal.

Speaker 9 (53:15):
Long term.

Speaker 17 (53:16):
You want him as a starter, but he's he's really
excelled as a reliever at times. And if he's so
in ninety five without adrenaline in a bullpen in on
the side fields in Florida right now, I can't I
can't even imagine where he could probably touch in a
one or two inning stint, you know, in game action.
So that's a possibility. I mean, there's there's limitless possibilities.

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But uh, I'll go to this too. You get a
lot of guys healthy, say Luis Garcia, Spencer Arrighetti, Lance McCullers,
JP Franz.

Speaker 9 (53:53):
You mix and match, and you can piggyback.

Speaker 17 (53:56):
You know, on certain days with with with a couple
of starters and have him go four and four and
that's another rest day for your bullpen.

Speaker 9 (54:03):
Things like that. I think what you're trying to do
is keep these guys as fresh as possible.

Speaker 17 (54:07):
While you're winning these games, and then continue to play
great baseball.

Speaker 9 (54:12):
The record in one run games is certainly flip flopped
from years past. I think they're.

Speaker 17 (54:17):
Fifteen to seven now after yesterday's game. So winning close
games is I think probably a byproduct. Twenty two comeback
wins is a lot of it. That's a great trait.
We've talked about that. The two outruns that they scored
this year. They're up among the leaders, and they're pitching.
I think they've got a lot of good traits of
good teams.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
Yeah, and at no time in the history of baseball
or sports anywhere has anybody complained about having too much pitching.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
It'll never happen. That's all right, There you go, good
problem to have.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Hey, enjoy your event today, brother, hit him straight, and
then we'll do it again next Monday.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
We appreciate you moving it around so you could join
us today.

Speaker 9 (54:54):
Good talking to you, Sean, You too, brother.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
That's a great Steve spark solid ball striker, solid ball striker.

Speaker 7 (55:00):
Solid ball striker. I mean, is he his words even himself?
You know for baseball he puts together a really good
at bat.

Speaker 9 (55:06):
Right.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Can you imagine though, what that story he told about it?
Now you find it out while you're in stretching life. Yeah, yeah,
like that's nine year olds. They don't think they're doing
any horrible says, that's my pop's talking. Crazy stuff man.
And uh a tough, tough, tough profession, tough career, great profession.
You want to know where you stand, just ask a

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little kid. Yeah, there's no filter. Oh, they're absolutely for one.
That's exactly right, crazy business man. Good to have Steve
Sparks on always. We'll see in a minute.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
The Houston Sports World.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Yeah, Sean Salisbury knows how to play the game because
he really played the game.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yeah, former prol QB right here, he actually has it
on his name tag. Former pro QB. Right, here back
to Sean on Sports Talk seven ninety. All right, Sean,
what are you hearing out there now? The Salisbury's takeouts?

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Salsbury's takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
It is the Monday edition of the Sewn Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety. Astros eight to seven winners yesterday
over the Angels. They take two out of three in
that series. Kevin Durant is a rocket trade with the
Phoenix Suns. You send back Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks, the
tenth pick in the upcoming draft, and five second round picks,
and the Thunder are NBA champions in seven games over

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the Pacers. Sean, we can agree, it's pretty hot outside
right now. I mean, look, it's not like it's a
surprise to us. We know once the calendar hits probably
about late April, is all right, it's warm right now.
We're finally out of winter and it's only going to
get hotter. I mean the days where it's ninety five out,

(56:54):
Oh man, it's a nice day out right. Well, it
hasn't necessarily been as as good for the people over
in the UK. Apparently right now they are dealing with
a heat wave and one of them is somebody on
Twitter who goes by Pica Boky.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
It's the Brits. What can I say?

Speaker 7 (57:15):
Who the blank decided the UK needed to have a
heat wave and they post a picture of their Apple
forecast where it's got the temperature right there, so the
current tempts and it says twenty five degrees celsius, which
would equate to being about seventy eight eighty degrees somewhere there.

(57:39):
That's considered to be a heat wave. It continues in
the UK. Yes, Dobson, hottest day of the year in
the UK and I have to go do an eight
hour shift. Wish me luck in Hartlepool twenty six So
somebody pointing out by the way, seventy eight degrees fahrenheit.
So what this reminds me of is like last year

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during in the winter time, we had little snow ice
come through and it sent some of us out of
commission and it also sent where some of us had
to pull a little extra duty for it.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
It's the job. It is what it is, but it
is also too.

Speaker 7 (58:18):
What cracks me up with all of this is that
you'll get the people in the Northeast and the Midwest
who look at people like us or any other southern
city and they're like, oh, you guys are such clowns.
Two inches of snow and you can't move around. My
response to them is, yeah, we don't have to. It's
a little different for you guys because you're used to it.

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You've got the ways to be able to brine the streets,
and you've got the snow plows and all of the
other things.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
We don't have to deal with it, you do.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
You lost me on anybody listen a city or state
happy to deal with snow once a year where they're
just not used to it.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Arizona gets snow.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
Of course they're not prepared for it, because you do
three hundred and sixty four days a year it's sunny here.
Same way we have to deal with some other stuff.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
But you know, we'll get that.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
Colder a snow maybe once or twice a year, a flurry,
and then maybe a decent snow that melts the next
day or later that day. You lost me on the
fact that there's people complaining about it being eighty degrees.
If I had eighty degrees in this city year round,
eighty you would You're like, this is the greatest thing

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on the planet. So I'm sorry that somebody has to
work an eight hour shift in eighty degree weather. Nobody
in Arizona, well, nobody quite tranquily across the country right
now with the heat wave, wants to hear it. Okay,
they don't want to hear it on golf courses, they
don't want to hear it in construction sites, they don't
want to hear it in oil fields.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Eighty degrees.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
So yeah, I mean in Minnesota, twenty eight inches of
snow on a Halloween When I was there the next day,
early in the morning, the streets were cleared enough to
go to work, and that happened. Snowing on Halloween. It's
either twenty four to twenty eight inches. It was literally
two feet in a day's period or less the next
day they went. Now, Minnesota may not be as prepared

(01:00:08):
for one hundred and fifteen a dry heat like Arizona
because it's a little it's humid and the rest. So
the perspective of it is. But if it'd be like
somebody complaining about having to play sports in sixty degrees
sunny weather, stop it, okay, stop it now. In August
in practice in full gear in one of those places

(01:00:28):
where you can't breathe because there's so much amidity.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Different story, but it lost me.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
When somebody is soft enough to say, it's eighty degrees
and I gotta work an eight hour shift, I don't
care if it's digging a ditch, working in an oil field,
or sitting in your office.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
A minimal, minimal, minimal compassion for that.

Speaker 7 (01:00:46):
Well, the way I found out about this story was
through OutKick, and one of the lines they had in
the story was the Revolutionary War losers. So maybe it's
maybe it's a little bit that mentality right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Now tied into that. Yeah, yeah, you know, you're just
you're not tough enough. You can't handle it.

Speaker 7 (01:01:02):
Our good buddy Greg Cook, remember he shared a story
of some of his packer teammates that I think you
know still live up there in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Ye,
and you know they were talking to him about living
down here. They're like, man, I don't know how you
live in that heat and humidity. I love his line back,
He goes easy, I don't have to shovel it. Yeah,
that's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
My response will be, I don't know how you spend
eight months or six months a year dealing with this
at every day. You got to wake up and get
up an hour early so you can actually get out
of your front door at times. Great, great little community,
but I'll deal with excessive heat and excessive snow. Although
it'd be nice to have San Diego temperatures year round.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Sure, then you got to move there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
But there's one sacrifice you'll have to make aside from politics,
if you're okay with you know, them taking all your
money is there's traffic, but that house you have here
somewhere else is probably a tad more expensive there.

Speaker 7 (01:01:49):
It seems like, you know, most times I've ever been
in southern California, it's been just a massive deluge of rain,
which it doesn't happen there very often. I was there
for the National Championship for years ago, and that was
when they had the atmospheric River.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
So it's like any weather event here.

Speaker 7 (01:02:05):
You watch the local news, it's gonna be every single
start of every single segment. They're going to Anthony Janniz,
They're going to Justin Stapleton, whoever it is, Hey tell
us about the weather, you know, and just going through
where the low pressure system is coming in and all
of that, and that's the way it was there because well,
I mean, as you know growing up there southern California,

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when it comes to rain, they're like, the hell's this?

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
We don't know this? Yeah, and at the time you
do need it, you don't.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
You get Santa Ana wins and the wind blows and
then fire start and you're begging for that rain, but
only after about oh two thousand acres or more of
bird or twenty five thousand acres burned. Then the rain
kicks in after some tough times and you get that
at a lot of places. It's happened, and it's unfortunate.
It sucks that time of year, and this time of
year become a problem in some places they don't get

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that moisture.

Speaker 7 (01:02:52):
The only time that the Santa Ana wins are allowed,
it seems, is in during a middle of a raindy
Newman song.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
There you go, that's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
We love it, yeah, we do love it, sixt but
it's got to be with a big nasty redhead at
your side.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
That's it. There you go.

Speaker 7 (01:03:08):
So the Brits they can't handle the heat, We definitely
can around here. Let's get back into the rockets conversation.
With the trade made yesterday, was it say about the
part of the trade that people are focusing the most on.
We'll talk about it right here. It is the Sean
Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety the seven o'clock hour,

(01:03:28):
seven ninety listener line is presented by one eight hundred
car Cash. We put a pen in it for a
second when it came to the Kevin Durant trade. But
we've been talking a lot about Jalen Green, and all
I could think about yesterday when they made this trade
was they answered the question that I figured they were
mulling over over there at the Memorial Herman Training Center

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during the meetings ro fell Stone and his staff of
do we believe that Jalen Green can become a star?
And I think this trade said yes that through the
numerous discussions they had they came to after the playoff
series and after the season that he just had that
they said, we don't believe that he can become that guy.
And it was a little bit of a shock at first,

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because I felt like that he was going to be
one of the tougher guys for them to be able
to part with because of that very reason. Do we
want to run the risk that he becomes a star
somewhere else and not in our building, or would we
want that here in our building. And I think that
it finally came down to we can move on from
him because we probably feel like, at best, he's a
two or three in this league.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Okay, here's my thing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
I would have made this trade in my mind, psychological
and psychologically convincing myself that he is going to be
a star somewhere else. But we have a window to
win n NBA Championship, So the trade's worth it because
I don't know what's going to drive him, but I
know during the regular season there was more than a
whisper about this guy's the next star in this city.

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The postseason squelt shat because he did not play well
but one game. And it's easy when you have the
hovering that's hanging out there, the dangling carrot that is
Kevin Durant, which is a really good one. But there's
a window there with him. And he's thirty six years old.
Kevin Durant's not going to be dominant at forty. Now,
he still may be able to come off the bench

(01:05:21):
for somebody shoot if he still wants to do it.
But I think that the window for not the Rockets,
as I've said, it's just for the Kevin Durant Rockets
is in the next two years. And if you don't
win a championsip forget into the payoffs. They're going to
get to the playoffs. If you take Durant off the
roster and trade Jalen Green, you're still a playoff team
They've got They've got a good enough roster to make
the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
With that in mind, it's not getting there now.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
They're starting to get to the point where the expectations
are growing and the talents got a chance to match it.
They proved that during the regular season. But I would
have gone in for my sake saying let's before I
made this trade, let's say that, and almost convincing yourself
that yes, he's going to be a star Jalen Green.
Does that affect us five years from now, Well, it'll
affect you more. It hurts you more if you don't

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win a title in the next two And I think
it comes down to simply this, are you better now
than you were when the season ended? With Kevin Durant
in tow The answer is absolutely yes. Are you better
now three years from now. And will Jalen Green be
a better player in three years than Kevin Durant will
be in three years? And that answer is probably in
three or four years. But it's the closer. It's a mentality,

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it's another winner in the locker room. It's man, you
know what, we're willing to take the risk that our
two year window I'm not even talking about, sorry, I'm
just talking about the window of his talent and how
it works that we can win one. If they don't,
you should say five second rounders, two first rounders and
two players and one potential star.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Was too much.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
But right now this will have an I inc. Next
It's incomplete. It's incomplete for obvious reasons. Because if you
win a title next year and don't make the playoffs
for three years, the trade was worth it because that
ring is hard to come by. You're gonna find an
Oklahoma City's chance to repeating. They're gonna be I don't
want to say slim, but it's hard to do. It

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is hard to do, and they're young and excitable, but
sometimes it's just everybody raises their game for you. Kevin,
Kevin Durant's got something to prove so for me in
the long term. If you're thinking five years his trade,
he probably wouldn't have made it. But if you're a
Felstone thinking this window's here, why are we gonna sit
and kind of be passive. Let's go jump through it.

(01:07:29):
Let's see what we got. We haven't decimated our team
with five second rounders and a couple first rounds. They
still have artillery. They still got good players on the bench.
Watching Kevin Durant play, he's a closer, he can do
a lot of things for you. I like it, but
this is short term.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Long term.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Just think about this, like I said earlier, as a
baseball rental without the contract issue. It's a baseball rental
in the terms of talent and window for the age
of this player. And right now, if he's not hungry,
something's wrong because he's got a chance to do something
that people keep chirping about. You didn't go chase it
with three superstar guys. You went and chipped who's a

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superstar right now? Not a budding superstar who is a
looked at as a superstar on the on the rockets
right now? Nobody We all think that men Thompson's got
that ability and he will. He's not there yet, He's
we also look at Shangun. He's an All star hell
of a player. Will he be ever a Number one?

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Maybe not?

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
But if you get three guys who can take over
games and play both ends of the floor. Shn Gun
obviously he's got to play better defense, and Durance had
moments in his career. He'll have to elevate that. But
on the offensive end. In short term, this trade needed
to happen, and I think it was a damn good one.
But you have to win a title over this trade.

Speaker 18 (01:08:39):
You just do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
So.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
It's a rental, not because the contractor. It's a rental
of the talent window with Kevin Rant because at forty
Kevin Durant's not going to be a guy you're leaning
on in your first two players.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
At thirty six, he is.

Speaker 7 (01:08:52):
See the offensive part of it is why this deal
was made, because I think Raffelstone and his staff met
up and said, we were very forced to have the
season we did. We put together some really good work.
We did all those things offensively, though that was an
achilles heel for this team when they were shooting.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
It any more points, it was it was from.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
I mean, they got to score regular consistency of a
close out guy who can get twenty five falling out
of bed and you're not worried about and that's the
case with him.

Speaker 7 (01:09:17):
And that's and that's exactly what you didn't have, is
you'd have certain guys on certain nights. And Dylan Brooks,
oddly enough, one of the guys going out the door,
was the one who had the famous saying of you know,
one night, it's you, one night, it's me, it's it's
all of these. That's all fine and good. That doesn't
win championships. You just saw what just won a championship
in Oklahoma City. Shake Gilgess, Alexander. When it comes down
to it, he's the guy. Jalen Williams is the guy.

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Lou Dort, some of those guys, those are guys.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
You can count on it, right well, you have the
star and then they got phenomenal postseason performances offensive rebounds, Dort,
hustling his butt off running back and tapping the ball
away when you're when you're having trouble scoring in the
fourth quarter, even with the big leads, he's been almost
got down to nine, but they missed a free throw er,
a shot so meaning Indiana. And then you look at

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the Holmegren's defense. He's an elite shot blocker and elite defender.
And wait till he finally gets more comfortable. The guy
can score twenty two to twenty three. And the guys
that if he stays healthy, unique talent, he just is so. Yes,
while they may not be that guy, they have that guy,
but all the other guys with Dylan Brooks on with him,
another guy each night doing that other stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
I'm all for that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
But to have a close out guy that when you
come over, there's no question who's getting the ball. Now,
he may distribute it to somebody else because they double
him or what have you, but there's no question right
now with the game online and with Jalen Green here
in the postseason, there was a question so on the
earth and I think Jayalen Green has a chance to
be a great player. He's got stuff to work on.
But Udoka's seen the movie, and the movie is this

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window with Kevin Durant is open. Let's go out and
jump on. I love aggressive teams. They think they can
win an NBA title, or they would not have made
this move.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
They would not have.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
They would have said, let's continue to grow. Doka can
continue to teach. He'll learn from his postseason mistakes. Jalen Green,
you got Kevin Durant in here. That is that's tell
in the world. And we may not be done yet,
that's tell in the world. We were, we're a step away.
And we finally added that. I don't know what you
want to call it, the panage, the the uh wow factor,

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the ooh. The optics of this is Kevin.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Durant, You're a Christmas d You're a Christmas Day team.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Now there there's no question. There's absolutely no question about it.
And you added a guy that if he's healthy you
never have to worry about. He will score. The question
is how does it all fit in? And that'll be
up to Doka, and I think he'll figure it out.
I love the trade on the short term. If they
don't win an NBA championship, regardless of what the rest

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of it, what it happens, it'll be like, ah, man,
we parted with a lot of bodies. Of course you will,
but winning a title cures at all. And this team
did not go get Kevin Durant to just get to
the Western Conference Final and trading away Dylan Brooks too.

Speaker 7 (01:11:51):
I mean, you appreciate it energy, and he set the
tone for the culture of what you wanted to build here.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
I mean I said it when.

Speaker 7 (01:11:58):
They went out on this purpose here, when they went
out and got him and Van Vlietz, I knew exactly
what those guys are being brought here to do. And
now you feel like you're ready to take the next
step off of that. Otherwise you don't make this deal yesterday.
But the Rockets definitely thinking, and I mean I think
most of us believe upgrading offensively. Now it's going to
be a question of who's next down the line for

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Speaker 10 (01:14:44):
My brothers, that's up, buddy, Hey, Dan and Shine will
tell you I was, I was team pumped the breaks.
Let's keep it together, Let's let the young fellows work
it out. However, se ever, right, isn't that Stephen A.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Smith go to how.

Speaker 10 (01:15:08):
All the time?

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Rules exceptions love guard guy Corso not so fast, my friend, right, yeah, not.

Speaker 10 (01:15:16):
So fast man, Lissa Sean. You say it's a short term,
do I say it's both short term and long term.
I give Ropel snow and all the president will putting
for him to only give up one of the young guys.
I don't even count Brooks. I'm you know you Brooks
helped them and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
But this is you know, he's he's replacing the young
He's replaceable. He just is Kate to me, it's kad
for Green.

Speaker 10 (01:15:43):
You mean to tell me that he didn't have to
give up any of those first round picks, that he
has a phoenix. You mean to tell me he didn't
have to give up Cam with more or Ree Sheppard.

Speaker 14 (01:15:54):
Or Jabari.

Speaker 10 (01:15:57):
No, man, the rockets is looking good. At the man,
they are looking good. You got some guys over there
with Mark, got some talent, Red Spard got some talent
and they got some picks coming from Phoenix. You can't
tell me, Sean, if Phoenix wanted Jalen Green. Oh nay, Yeah,
they have Jayalen Green ring roster. It's Devin Booker. They

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got Bradney bil They got a bunch of two guards.
I know they probably wanted Jebori and Bobby Geester or
somebody like that. And from Stone to whole pack say
go talk to other teams and see what you can get.

Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
Mah, biscuits, great, yeah, biscuit for me, and you got
a closer and Kevin Durand who's still got game for me.
That's why it covers both. I agree with you. For me,
it's the short term because of the age with Kevin
Durant that you know that window if we're going to
get him to win a championship, we are not that
we're just making the playoffs isn't enough. And the long
term is they didn't have to give up a bunch

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to say, you know, some second round picks and who
turns out and you package them together to get first rounders.
But the truth of matters, they can still the windows
still open even if KD retire after two years because
they've got the youth on their side and a great
coach and a general manager who's pulling strings and doing
great things. My thing is with the Kevin Durant window,
you're expecting to if you're gonna win a title, and

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that's why you went and got him to do it
in the next couple of years. But they haven't buried
themselves long term because they didn't give away the farm.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
For sure.

Speaker 7 (01:17:21):
Yeah, Biscuits connection, they're starting to get a little away
from them.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
But we got his point in and he and I
are on the exact same page you did. The trade
is big. His long term is same as mine. I
just worded it different. Of the window with Durant is
not closing even post Durant because of what they have
now and the foundation. They just got better because Durant's
a better player than Jalen Green right now. And they

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didn't get Kevin Durant to be talking about twenty thirty.
They got Kevin Durant for them to be a Christmas
Day game and to not only get to the playoffs,
but when the Western Conference Finals comes around to eliminate
the Denver gets to eliminate the Oklahoma City Thunder and
be playing in the finals against one of those Eastern
Conference teams and win it. Kevin Durant's not here to
just be you know, oh look how good he is.

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He can score thirty and then you to be eliminated
in the second round of the playoffs. That's not why
he's here. The playoffs will not be enough. And I
think they've upgraded. When you talk about on the short term,
there's no doubt they are a better team than they
were when it ended. Because Durant is better at this
stage than Jalen Green. It's an express purpose.

Speaker 7 (01:18:24):
It's exactly as you said, where you feel like, all right,
what we did this year, if we stay the way
that we are, we don't believe that we can get
back to where we were this year.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Second playoffs.

Speaker 7 (01:18:34):
But that's not enough, right, But I mean, but you know,
looking at it as if you don't improve offensively, you
will not be the number two seed in the West
next year.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
Well, aren't the Rockets and the Texans damn near mirror images?

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Yeah, of the two of the major teams in this town. Yeah, absolutely,
get a good coach, change the front office, change the
mindset of the building, the culture, and that's by changing
the front office and the coach culture changes.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
Accumulate assets, Watson assets, I mean get where you can
make a move on the next guy. Start to think
about guys that are helping you during the regular season
and don't don't elevate in the postseason and then the
next levels.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
I got to get rid of those guys. That's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
And Andy Laramie Tunsel is a pro bowler. You got
rid of your best offensive lineman because it was better
draft pickwise and for you to clear that out money
wise and the rest. Because he's good enough to get
you there. But did he really have the nasty and
the stuff to take you to another level? And they've
decided he didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
So same thing. Assets. Key players are what closer C J.

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
Stroud defensive backfield, young and energetic pass rushers.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
You go get KD.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
You already have Shan Goun Amn Thompson's taking it to
another level. I don't believe they're done. You know there's
you're these some of these younger guys. Jabbari should be
elevating to another level. They're very similar and they're also both.
Now can you imagine that the Texas just to poach
a super approach the season and said it's going to
be awesome.

Speaker 9 (01:20:02):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
We'll get to the playoffs, but can't get by the
divisional round, then it's not a success for them. Now,
that's what you've been doing. That's exactly right, getting to
the playoffs. Both teams can get there as they sat
last year. The question is can you get where the
ultimate goal is? And that is the ultimate goal for
Carolina maybe a super Bowl. That ain't happening next year.
They're in that phase four years from now maybe, but

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right now and the Rockets and the Texans are in
that mode. We got to go get it. Hence why
you're seeing both of them do what they're doing. I
think it's a brilliant move on the short term long
term to preserve the window being open, but championship window.
You just elevated your championship chances by getting Kevin Durant
over Jalen Green. Whether people like him or not is

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to Twitter and stuff. Kevin Durant's a better player five
years from now, I'm not worried about. I'm worried about tomorrow.
And tomorrow. The Rockets are better because of Kevin.

Speaker 7 (01:20:52):
Durant and I mean you eventually want to get to
what the Astros are, and the Astros are in the
maintenance phase of where things are, because you're trying to
maintain where you've been of getting into the postseason and
getting deep into the postseason.

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Nine and four.

Speaker 7 (01:21:55):
In those thirteen games in thirteen days and off day.
Finally for the Strows, Kevin Durant a Houston Rocket in
the trade with the Phoenix Suns. He sent back Jalen Green,
Dylan Brooks, tenth pick in the upcoming draft and five
second round at selections. Heading towards Phoenix and the NBA Finals.
The Thunder are the champions for twenty twenty four and

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twenty twenty five.

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I got real quick and and great stuff in the
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I'm just gonna read. And this is really good. It's
h town h three sixty five. He says.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
This KDI signing reminds me of what Texans fans wanted
Kubiak to sign Peyton Manning. But Kubiak s David Matt
shop shop good player. Yeah, yeah, had had a Pro
bowls you know, Stone for four thousand, they had a
window with Aaron Foster, great o' line and dominant defense.
You miss all the shots you don't take. That is

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exactly right. Well, now they're not doing it with a
new regime. And it's the same thing here with with
Udoka and rafel Stone and the Rockets commitment and Tilman
Furtita's commit to buy into this as well. In the
organization is it's sitting there, don't be Well, why am
I losing my mind about your point guard from LSU?

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Who's in the end that the LSU point guard went
from Philadelphia who didn't want to Yes, Simmons, great perimeter defender,
can't shoot a good passer, don't be him at the
rim and pass that up, which since then he's never
been the same. Right, you had a great shooter, anybody
we look at him different. This is an organization that

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the window is open open to get into the platform.
You're saying, Okay, what's next? They study every single metric
in everything, rightfully, so how does this get us to
another level? If you were if it was a lateral move,
you wouldn't have done it, especially thinking well, but what
if Jalen's a star? I think you had to prepare
that Jalen is goo to go be a star. Good
on him, but you're still making the trade because Jalen

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being a star is still not at this stage of
the game the star that KD is on a night
in and night out basis, as we saw in the postseason,
cape will getting you for thirty plus and then going
six other games where he basically disappeared. That opened the
door for them to say we got to get better,
not to get to the playoffs. But if Kd's on
that team, guess what in truth with that performance, the

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Golden State does not win that series. Went seven games anyway, right,
seven games anyway, the KD difference. You're not winning that
series with Durant here. And that's not just on Jalen Green.
It's not fair just to put it on him. But
when we talk about big picture of what we're all
looking for, like I always say, front office and coaches
are always looking to replace you, who's the better player?

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Not in a negative way. If twelve fifteen cats, I
gotta have my best.

Speaker 9 (01:24:49):
I like you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
You're a good kid, good player. He could be a star.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
But I'm always looking to upgrade, always Corporate America upgrade,
and the players always looking to prevent you from doing that.
To you be the upgrade, right And while Jalen Green's
gonna be, he may be Phoenix's upgrade. He may very
well because they're thinking a little longer term. Even though
they've got a window where they've still got good players.

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This team's thinking now with longer terms still available because
of the youth. To me, you had to make the deal.
The door was open. You didn't allow it to slam
shut in your face. You've at least given your fan
base and your organization and your team and your coach
a legitimate chance to be playing in the NBA Finals

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and you can't tell me, well, Sean there, that's premature.
It's no longer premature. And they could have said, you
know what, we're ways away. Let's just grow into this.
If you're a dopey, say screw growing into it. Oklahoma
City says it that way, and Sam prest he guess what,
they ain't playing in the NBA finals. They used assets
the right way. The Rockets are doing the same thing.
This window with Kevin Durant's an important one and they've

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got to seize the moment. And at least with the
trade they did. This is a better team to than
it was in December the NBA I say that it
was in what what are we in in March or April?
Right even in December as well, This is a better
team right now.

Speaker 7 (01:26:10):
The NBA title odds have the Rockets with the fourth
best according to FanDuel.

Speaker 4 (01:26:15):
Means that means the ones that are ahead of them
are going to be Celtics. Nope, you talk is just
Western Conference representative of the overall NBA overall, Well, Oklahoma
City is in it, number one, Okay, Denver probably still no, Oh,
they don't have Okay, they're not still saying Cleveland, are they?
Cleveland three? Okay, Cleveland three. There's got to be a
big name team the Lakers, Nope, because of the coast,

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the other coast Knicks.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Number two. Are they anticipating that Giannis is going to
be in New York Kicks?

Speaker 7 (01:26:47):
I mean either that, I mean I guess maybe they
know something about who the next head coach is going
to be.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
When's the last time the betting odds in a going
into a season at Cleveland, Oklahoma City, the New York Knicks,
and the Houston Rockets? Is your first four odds on
favorite to win the NBA Championship? And none of them
include Lakers, Celtics, Nuggets, you know, those so called big

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name teams, the Miami Heat. Right, pretty impressive how we've
seen a shift. But if you're fourth and grabbing that
and we haven't even seen it, you got a closer?
That tells me, well, judging from that, what is that?
That gives you two teams in the West and two
teams in the East.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Right, Yeah, and the.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Rockets hunger ought to be what the Oklahoma City's hunger
was going into this season.

Speaker 7 (01:27:35):
Magic plus nine fifty so just right behind the Rockets
the Celtics. Pretty sizable difference there plus thirteen hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
See, even after the Luca and with Lebron and the
ownership change, really the gambling world doesn't hold the Lakers
in the high in that highest star. So they made
the It's amazing right in minnesotas a team that's obviously
continues to be on the right with Edwards and that
young talent.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
But think about that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
You make the trade and within his trade, it's all
the Dallas Mavericks is the worst thing they've ever done,
and which should catapult the Lakers. Not only it catapulted
him at least you thought it would. But yet when
you look at the betting odds in Vegas builds hotels
and casinos and puts the air conditioning for the right reasons,
think about how they feel about the Lakers organization.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
Got stuck the You got stock those gourmet buffets for
a reason. Brother, you ain't lying.

Speaker 7 (01:28:25):
You know, those crab legs at the Bolagio, they ain't cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
You ain't lying. Yeah, and hopefully we're back to being
able to do that without a mask on. So there
you go.

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
So yeah, it's just I love all right, there you go.
And of those teams, the simple question is why not
the Rockets. Why not Kevin Urrant made him better through
this trade, especially on the short term. When it comes
to his window to win another championship, he's got to
be elated because it's pretty good gig man, and he's

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well coached now.

Speaker 7 (01:28:55):
And that's why I brought up the Verlander example earlier,
because I mean, remember that twenty seven the non waiver
trade deadline comes and goes, and you got guys like
Dallas Kiku in the clubhouse who.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Are like, what are we doing?

Speaker 7 (01:29:07):
Man, Like we're right there, and like you can go
make that move right now to make sure that we
get there. And I mean, I think a huge part
of that was the Carlos Gomez trade the year before
it backfired on you didn't go well, and I think
that there probably was a little bit of buyer's remorse
with that that kind of crept over in the twenty
seventeen But then it came to it in August right

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there where you ask Verlander at midnight, Hey, you're going
to do this or not?

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
And he said, yeah, let's do it. Scared money, don't
make money, brother, And it's the truth. And when it
comes to making deals, scared money would have been not
to do this, and it's like, no, not only are
we doing it. I don't think they tread lightly through it.
I think they realized what could be with Jalen Green,
what is with Kevin Durant, and what I think will

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be Kevin Durant or not with this organization and the
way they're headed with some really good, good youth grow
into another year, they needed a full fledged, all out
closer and hopefully if his attitude and his health are
in the right spot, which he's always as a competitor,
and their health in the right spot, Kevin Durant is
just taking this team and vote second best record in

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the West.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
Yeah, there is no reason why they can't win the West.

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
I'm talking about regular season West and Oklahoma City's really good.
But what do they have that we don't a little
more experience. They've been in it trying to find Shay
Gilgess Alexander for this team. Now you don't have one.
But Kevin Durant's about as close as you're gonna get.
And I can argue on the offensive end that adding
in the way he plays amen Thompson, especially on defense,
but with sken Gun's double double each night. There's a

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lot of similarities between the two Tims teams and the
rim protecting and the things that are going on. I
like the way they're doing it and both braced for
this with all the assets they have. This is a
good deal for their window with Kevin Durant.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
No question about it.

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Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Back to Sean Salisbury, Brad wants to talk Katie trade.
Good morning, Brad, good morning.

Speaker 13 (01:31:39):
I still think there's a small deficiency by trading Brooks.
Is there that can or do you think they would
make a trade or is they do they have any
money for free agent? That is maybe, like I know,
they got players on the roster, but maybe another piece
that's kind of similar to Brooks.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
And that's all I got, all right. I appreciate the call.

Speaker 7 (01:32:04):
I mean, I just I feel like that trade was
made with the express purpose of you feel like you've
got the replacements here already. We talked about Jabari Smith Junior.
You're looking for him to improve offensively this year. But
I gotta tell you, I mean for the other side
of Dylan Brooks, and was probably the selling point of
why you got him here in the first place, and
enforce her a little bit of an agitator, all of

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those different things.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Tarry Easton fits that mold. Tarry Easton's that guy.

Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
Yeah, I mean that guy who agitates and has no
basketball skills. We smirk at, right, laugh at the guy
who's an agitator and irritating. We get we want to
fight when he's on another team. Right, the guy who's
on your team who's an agitator that's got some basketball skill.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
You love having him.

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
And I completely understand what he's talking about as far
as that edge. That's what is listening. And this is
no disrespect to Dylan Brooks. I can replace the basketball skills.
I mean, there's guys who can do what he does
on the court and one of the few. Because you know,
going into a game, it's like when you play in
a in a lesser and a more respectful I guess

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when you play Draymond Green, what do you know? You're
getting a good basketball player. But at some point the
game is gonna erritate. You want them, We're gonna want
to fight him. And Brooks takes on a little bit
of that when he was playing elsewhere. Was it Memphis
before he came here.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
Yeah, Memphis.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
Right in Memphis, I'm like, some of needs to knock
his ass out. And then when he got here, you're like,
I get wise here. So you do need that, and
it may be in a difference, it comes in different
shapes and sizes, but you have to have the guy
that there's the energy level or the agitator level. But
in order to stay on the court, the agitator has

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to be able to play some ball, and Brooks has
proven he can. And that may be and that's a
little bit, but I can find Udoka obviously knows there's
somebody on that roster that can fill that. But what
is tougher to fill is not an attitude when it
comes to that. The tougher phill is close the closer
in a big game and postseason, not in the regular season,

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a postseason to where when you come over, like I said,
and draw it up, everybody in the group knows who's
starting with it. The question is who's going to end
with it. And it may be the very same guy
and Kevin Durant when he has the basketball in his hand.
But you got a closer that gives you a little different.
Even though this city, I mean, this league respects and
I think the national basketball approaches Houston's becoming different now,

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I still think there's another level and bringing this guy
to the building, you just it's like when you got
a good team when you walk down Remember when the
Miami Hurricanes used to I'm not comparing them yet, you
get when the Miami Hurricanes when they had all those players,
when they'd walk down the tunnel, you knew two things.
You're in a fis fight and there was a good
chance that they were more talented than you. And if
you didn' show up, you're getting you ask kicked. I
know when I was a freshman at SC, I did.

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I felt the same way Bruce Matthews and Don Mospar
and Roy Foster and Jack del Rio and Dwayne Bikett
and Marcus Allen. And I'm thinking, in order to beat us,
we have to help you because when we walk down there,
if nothing else, you know, when we walk down the tunnel,
were better than you, were, more physical than you were,
nastier than you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
Now you just can't make a few mistakes.

Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
So I think that the outside, the NBA around is
starting to say, oh okay, that when they walk into
the building, there's a different feel.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
They were really good last year.

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
Oh my goodness, they've added that, dude, Oh okay, this
is the things got real. Things started already get real.
You've added you've upgraded on the short term in a
championship window to go get it. And I think it's
a very very it's a good move. Five years from now,
we'll deal with it. And if they don't win a championship, well,
Kevin Durant's here, then we will probably look at it

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and say it didn't work out. But you do have
to take the chances. If you don't shoot it, it
has no shot of going in. If you don't you
want to win power Ball, you got to play the numbers.
And you don't play the numbers. It doesn't just fall
out of the sky and land in your lapp or
fall out of a turn up truck and give you
two hundred million dollars. Kevin Durant your your lottery ticket.
As long as that lie ticket doesn't get lost, meaning hurt,

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he's got a chance to take him to another level.

Speaker 7 (01:36:04):
I just feel like that there is still another move
to be made to improve this team offensively. And I
think the other thing that kind of feeds into money
and everything else that you still have your avail is
if I'm not mistaken, I think the Fred van Vliet
deadline is this Monday next week, So that will also
determine what you're able to do in terms of how
much do you pay him.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Do you decide to.

Speaker 7 (01:36:25):
Pay him, I mean any of those type plus this year, Yeah,
forty four I believe was the number.

Speaker 9 (01:36:32):
Dan.

Speaker 4 (01:36:32):
I'm not so sure that's not even a tougher decision
than Kevin Durant for Jalen Green, because it's I mean,
I like Van Vleet's game.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
Is he championship point guard? I think he is?

Speaker 4 (01:36:43):
But can he take over a game at least done
it at times. Does he can he take over a
game if he can't facilitate that day.

Speaker 7 (01:36:50):
I just think that now, because of the lack of
offensive firepower that you had, he had to try to
tap into that, and every once in a while you
can get it. Sure, But for the blame that he
took for that from the fan base, I was like,
that's incredibly unfair overboard. It's not what he's supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
Well, he's not supposed to be the right He wasn't
expected to when he came here in the first place.
So Van Vliet is serviceable is like, to me, a
bit demeaning to him because I think he's better than that.
And he also has a ring on his finger that
a lot of guys in this roster don't have, so
he knows how to win. And that's another reason why
I don't you know what you're getting from him for
the most part. But somewhere along the line, whether it's

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in the building elevation to shooting and scoring, you're gonna
need another guy that gets you seventeen a night off
the bench. That's what I'm talking about, regardless of work.
You know, Eddie Johnson because Williams, you know, the guy
who comes into sixth man instant offense gets you twenty,
get you fifteen and seven, get your four blocks, fourteen points,

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ten rebounds, get you twenty two points on a night
you need him. Yeah, I know what hing Gunn's gonna
give me a Men Thompson special. You know Kd's fallout
of bed twenty five points worth? The question the next
score when maybe somebody gets in foul trouble, who takes
over the game?

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
Is Jabari Smith? The next guy? Who is it?

Speaker 4 (01:38:10):
This team is not far off and all you did
was take I don't know if I one through ten.
They're eight and eight eight last year?

Speaker 9 (01:38:19):
Is that fair?

Speaker 4 (01:38:20):
Sure that at the end of the rector give them
an eight eight, even though second the way that the
national scope looks at them. All right, so they went
from eight eight, What do you give now going into
the season? Nine two, nine three, And the only reason
it's not higher is because haven't made the decision for
another score. But you're also dealing with a thirty six

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year old and you're wondering, Okay, what's in the tank?
We know we've seen what's in the tank, but can
that Can he give you seventy games this year? Can
he give you seventy two games or seventy five games?
If he can, this trade will end up being a very,
very phenomenal decision by the Rockets.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
I already think it is. You can't sit there, well,
what if all the negative? You gotta like?

Speaker 4 (01:39:01):
What if the positive and assume the Jalen Green is
gonna go on to be a player, gonna help for
you great? But if you win the ring, that trade
won't matter. If you gave away twenty five people. Win
in the ring not only buys you time as far
as okay, we got it. You want to win another one,
win another one. But it's validation that the decision on
Kevin Durant was the right one.

Speaker 7 (01:39:19):
Parades have a funny way of doing that to people,
and if you're able to do it, the means don't
necessarily matter. Roger Tony Brandon, see you all right there,
get you involved well. Also, we've back into the Astros conversation.
As the hour goes along. It is the Sean Salisbury
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Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
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Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
Good morning, Roger, Good morning fellas.

Speaker 12 (01:39:45):
Wow, what a weekend of sports. Man got a got
a new NBA Crown Champion and they looking like they
might have to might we have to gear up for
that kind of run because those guys are young and
they're hungry, and they look they look legit. Man being
said on this Kevin Durantdale.

Speaker 5 (01:40:02):
Man.

Speaker 12 (01:40:02):
Uh, the only reason why jenmen Gray was traded was
because his former coach got him traded. Mister Silas, they're
gonna bring that on him because of it his late development.
Had he had a proper development, because he's got all
the telet in the world, Make no mistake, this guy
is gonna be a star. Maybe maybe be a couple
of three years long down the road, but he's definitely

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gonna get there. The reason why we couldn't keep him
was because we couldn't wait for his development any longer.
Meaning in the end, in the end, in the playoffs,
everything's emphasized, so there's no there's no way you can
get just an off season of work and have him
work on so many things that he did at work
on He had a loose handle from the left side,
and he didn't he didn't present any packages, any any

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offensive packages. When you when you met an opposing defender,
meaning you get that metal roller theecks in your head
and you know how this guy's gonna play. You have
to boom switch to that boom switch that I got
this for that, I got this for that he was
he was no work close to that, and we just
and not wait for that kind of development. So Rafell
and em had to make a decision. A situational trade
is what I call it, because for this situation, for

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the way we are now and be, and make no mistake, guys,
we're still looking for forward progression from our youngsters. This
doesn't work. This, this doesn't come close to working if
our guys don't progressively visually get a lot better than
they were last year meeting read Shepherd Cam went more
uh Jabari Smith. Guys like that need to really be

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on the uh you know, have some progression in their
games for all this to work out. Uh you know
uh uh uh. Shandon's loose left left side hangle handle
when he spends and knows just the ball riffle, all
that has to be has to be cleaned up. So yeah,
it's it's It's a good trade for for the situation
that we needed. And I just think that uh, you know,

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by no means that we need to uh you know,
think that we've already you know, accomplished something because we have.
And e May is a perfect captain for this for
this title. Straight to work. And yeah, you take Kevin
Duratch just a lag on defense just because he's older.
You've got another thing covers all right.

Speaker 7 (01:42:10):
They appreciate the call, Roger. And an interesting point he
brings up to is Cam Whitmore. I mean, because that
was a name that I was kind of surprised was
not part of this deal. And you know what he
can bring you on the offensive end. I mean, we
thought he was going to be turning into a star
at this time. Well because elevate right, because of what
he's getting you on the offensive end. Doubt it was
the lack at times on the defensive end. And when

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you do that, you are quickly out of the circle
of trust with IMJ.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
Doka.

Speaker 4 (01:42:35):
You know what, It reminds me of a running back
who's a great player running the ball in college And
do you wonder why you can't get on the field
very much as a rookie past.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
That's exactly right, dude, your great love it effort. Smart.

Speaker 4 (01:42:47):
The problem is you don't understand how to read defense
who's coming, and you can't block or your technique whatever,
you're not working on it. I can't put you in
there in third and five because you're putting us in
harm's way, not fully trusted with the scheme, no question. Yeah,
and you know that is a rookie dude.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
The easiest thing for a running back to do, and
it's not easy, is when you catch the ball in
the backfield on a toss, sweep or whatever it is
you're doing, run to daylight. That's what you're naturally. That's
why your skill set says. The hard part is, oh,
it's a three four defense, a four to three defense.
They say, Mike Wright, you're going away from the mic line,
the slide line. Then you got to work into out

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the will linebacker pretends like he's coming, drops back in
the coverage, and the guy off the slot comes and
you're looking inside and you're late. The quarterback gets in
the back.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
Things like that.

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
The trust Yet when he has the ball in his hand,
it's like, damn, he's really good or a third down
back that can't run routes. Then if you can't run routes,
can't protect the quarterback, you're not a three down back.
I got to send you to the sidelines and keep
that KG veteran in the game who gets it. So
that's why some young players don't get in the lineup.

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And it's the same thing here Cam Whitmore. We know
he can score, but you can't be on this team.
It appears, and I love it. You don't get to
just knock down jump shots on the other and put
us in a disadvantage where it's four on five on
the other end. So when he elevates that, and again,
it doesn't take a lot of talent, and I know
this is gonna say, it does not take a lot
of talent for effort and to play defense. It just

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some of the least talented guys in the world can
play defense.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
Now you've got to be all the guys that are
in the NBA are skilled.

Speaker 4 (01:44:20):
But like goal line running game attitude, defense is just
a commitment buying an attitude. Now, if you've got exceptional
skills in length like some of these guys doing, you're
a seven footer that can cover a two guard. You're different.
Those guys aren't normal. But the effort on the defensive
end you have to match that. You want your sports

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center to highlight to be great defensive stop on one end,
not just necessarily the three pointer or the dunk on
the other end. And when that's as important to you
as the other thing, you gain elevates. And Roger's right,
the progressive part of keep moving, keep getting better. It
won't work out if everybody gets stagnant. Because Kd's in
the house, let's stand around and watch him shoot because

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he's really good. We saw that with the other guy,
a left hander who was here for a long time.
Stand around and if he decides to dish the ball
to us, great. He's talented and harden. But you're not
going to get some on the defensive end, and you
may feel like you spend five trips. It's dribble dribble, dribble, dribble,
and he can score, but you can get caught gawking.
You don't want to get to the part and say,
oh Kd's here, good, we got our mighty life serial commercial.

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He'll do it all for us. You have to continue
to elevate. You should go into this same Kd's here
to elevate our play and protect us and take care
of us, as opposed to the other way around. I
mean that you're here to protect him as opposed to
he's just here to take care of everything that you
have to make sure that you're putting him in a
situation and supporting his offensive game.

Speaker 7 (01:45:45):
It's supposed to add to it. It's not supposed to
make it stagnant. If it was stagnant or a lateral move,
you can't make this move. It's not He's better now,
everybody progresses. The energy in the room should go up.

Speaker 4 (01:45:57):
This should go up immediately, not because you didn't like
Jalen Green, just because you know you took another step closer,
at least on paper to getting better and having a
chance to win an NBA time.

Speaker 7 (01:46:06):
I don't think there's anything that beats feeling like you've
got belief from the people who when they give it
to you, the front office ownership, that when they do
that for you, it makes the workouts even better.

Speaker 4 (01:46:17):
And if you're Kevin Durant, think about all the times
he's moved, how many different good bodies, how many assets
he's required over the trades to all these different places.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
You wake up.

Speaker 4 (01:46:29):
You don't know if Phoenix is committed to it or
committed to you hear all the whispers and he was asked,
I think it was by Adams yesterday. What's her first name,
not Amy Adams, that's the Kay Adams and she's really good.
Asked him if he had anything to do with this.
He goes, absolutely no, he said, I absolutely did that
player empowerment. You want out and they usually get you out,

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but he didn't get out and get traded to a hack.
He got traded to. They're on the come, man, They're
ready to roll. You know what I'm saying. They are
on the rise. And he knows they wanted him, and
he made that point. He goes going to a place
where I know they wanted that, they wanted me, And
think about it. You woke up and you hear two
first rounders, two players, and five second round picks. His

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co his confidence probably is, well the Suns. The Suns
uh screwed themselves. They should have got more. Yeah, but
still that's a lot of bodies. And you went, you
don't give up that many bodies for a lateral move.
You give up that many bodies because you think you're
an NBA championship type team. There's congrats star Guy Tripoli
for his Oklahoma City Thunder win. In the whole thing,
there's a video making its way out there right there.

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Yeah you did, you were, you were on it from
the beginning.

Speaker 7 (01:47:36):
There's a video making its way out there where it
was after the panel where he's up on stage with
Taylor Rooks and then you mentioned talking with Kay Adams.
It's a moment that somebody was able to capture of
he and Rich Cleman, and there's excitement between them both
of hey, we got it done. So he's excited to
be here, he's ready to be here. And I would
probably guess that. I mean, even though the NBA season

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just yesterday, I would probably guess there's a few guys
that showed up to the Memorial Herman training facility this
morning saying, hey, here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
Oh that would have been a mandate.

Speaker 4 (01:48:10):
So exciting times on an NBA season that just ended,
and now you're sitting here thinking, Okay, when's the last
time you anticipated It's been a minute since you since
the season ended last night, and is a rote with
the Astros getting in their Chase and playing pretty good
baseball and knowing that football seasons ahead that you thought

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this early about, I can't wait till November, when October,
November whenever they start saying this is as much enthusiasm
as you've had, maybe since the Hardened Paul Hardened Westbrook
thought process. And you get a guy hard and Paul
hard and Westbrook who's a better shooter and a better
winner than both of them. It just this, all three

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of them actually mean he's a better He's a he's
a better player than all three of them. Now, at
the time, James Harden was as good offensive player as
we had in the league. My point is he's got
ring and I know who he got it from and
why he got those You know why he got his stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:49:08):
But he's proven that he's a closer.

Speaker 4 (01:49:10):
But the anticipation of a season coming immediately shifted your paradigms,
and the NBA season did. Normally, We're like, okay, great,
the season's over. Let's folk football is right around the corner, right,
But there is another part of this, man. The NBA
season can get here pretty quick.

Speaker 7 (01:49:24):
This is going to be the most anticipated season opener
in this town since twenty nineteen, Hardening.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
Westbrook, and I'm not so sure this one isn't more. No,
I agree because of the championship chops and it brings.

Speaker 7 (01:49:37):
Because I mean, you also see it from not only
what we see on the floor, but also I mean,
I know that some people might say own national voices,
they only watch so much so they don't truly know.
But the belief from at least a lot of those
people that this style can win, this style will win,
this style will put them in position to be playing
in the NBA finals. So you marry that up and

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there's reason to be really excited about what's to come
over there with the Rockets, Tony, Gary Brandon. See you guys,
We'll get you guys involved in the conversation. You want
to join them. Sebone three two one two five seven ninety.
Once again that someeone three two one two five seven ninety.
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Speaker 14 (01:50:18):
Let's go on.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 7 (01:50:22):
The Rockets nets James Harden trade James Harden for twenty
twenty two first round pick that got Ittari Eason twenty
twenty four, which became a number three. You got Reed
Shepherd this year's first round pick, of course, which was
initially the Suns, but it goes back to the Suns
and that's what you used to Kevin Durant trade. You
still have the Sons first round pick in twenty seven,

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the first round pick swap with the Nets in twenty
twenty twenty seven as well, and then the Suns and
or MAVs first round pick in twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
So assets still there. For the Rockets, there's.

Speaker 4 (01:50:58):
No doubt and I would not be shot if there's
still something in front of them to make a move on.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
But this is this is so far now the deal
of the.

Speaker 4 (01:51:06):
Off season, and I know the off season it's really
has started yet because we just want But when I'm
talking about bout everybody else that wasn't playing, and the
next one is the big fellow in Milwaukee who lands
that that that big fella is one thing, but this
was a team that's on the cusp and feels like
this got him over the speed bump and I and

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we'll see and we won't know for a long time,
meaning for a handful of months, but on the surface
and on the short term, for the Kevin Durant window
with the rockets. It's it's opening wide open, and uh,
I think this is a really really good decision.

Speaker 7 (01:51:43):
Yesterday, just after one o'clock, speaking of Jannis Santa Cumpo
tweeting out, oh oh like aha.

Speaker 4 (01:51:51):
You know the truth is, if Jannie is, if Katie
at this stage of his career is worth that, what's
the guy in Milwaukee worth?

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
Oh, almost double that?

Speaker 4 (01:52:00):
And there's a haul, so gear up for it. But
it doesn't matter what everybody else does. It matters what
this team does to better themselves, and they did get better.
On Twitter, guy asked Yesterdy, he goes, this is an
A plus move, and I said, I'm not willing to
give it that grade.

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
And I've been thinking about all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:52:18):
It's an A plus move for now, right right now,
for what you want right and it may end up
being an A plus move four years down the road.
It's a definite A plus move and a no brainer
walk of fame move if you go win a championship
and you went and got this because of his age rental,
not because of his salary rental, although he's expensive, but
you know you think he's worth every dime and Kevin

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Durant's proven that he's a closer in this league.

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
So I like it a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:52:45):
I love it on the on the urgent side of it,
and I'm not worried about what Jalen Green turns into
because I made this trade because I believe that this
is the move that gives me NBA championship trade and
if it doesn't, then you tee it up. We've seen
it with quarterbacks, so you've got to do it again.
But that's why they made this trade, not to get
to the playoffs to win it.

Speaker 7 (01:53:04):
Well, I mean especially too after last year where I
mean it was a disappointing finish. You wanted to be
able to move on to the next round, maybe even
get to the Western Conference finals, and you were unable
to do that because you couldn't get past Golden State.

Speaker 4 (01:53:17):
No player in the postseason for what he gave in
the regular season, and then going into the postseason, no
player in the NBA improved more and then took a
step back in the postseason more. It was the seven
game series ago, the so called star and air quotes.
No star played worse with that kind of pressure on

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the line. Then Jalen Green did six of the seven
games he just did.

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
That's just the facts.

Speaker 4 (01:53:47):
But we know he's got ability, but his next step
is how does he do in a playoff series?

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
Well, I mean, and that's the burden of proof with him.

Speaker 7 (01:53:54):
But I mean it was also to the inconsistency at
times offensively that people would talk about because when it
was really good, oh man, it was awesome, it was
just the other parts of it.

Speaker 4 (01:54:04):
That's you got too much of the other parts of it, right,
That's what got you talking trade a year before. Right,
is then we start to seeing man the growth and then.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
Oh yeah, all.

Speaker 4 (01:54:14):
Those things and then he you know that it was
there sitting on the table for him to do what
he needed to do with it. And unfortunately he didn't
seize the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
He just didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:54:22):
And you're not going to get six six to seven
games bad from Kevin Durant like that. And it doesn't
mean that Jaylen Green doesn't have a chance to be
a star. You had to make this move, especially it
was validated by those playoffs. You would have made this move.

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
It was just for a guy.

Speaker 4 (01:54:36):
You went out and got a guy that you thinks
the difference between you getting to the playoffs and winning
an NBA title, and that'll be the measuring stick, not
getting to the playoffs. Did we win an NBA championship
under Kevin Durant's watch, And if you did, it'll be
worth whatever suffering you.

Speaker 1 (01:54:50):
May have to go through.

Speaker 4 (01:54:51):
In the Jalen Green stuff, meaning he turns into the
best score in the league, he wins an m v P,
they go to the playoffs for the championship and win
the window. The Kevin Durant thing. If you get a
ring under Kevin Durant being here, it will and he's
that guy. It doesn't matter what they do with those
nine other you know, the five second rounders, the two
first rounders, and the two players. It won't matter. If

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you don't win a championship. We'll go back and say
they gave up nine assets for him.

Speaker 1 (01:55:19):
It didn't work.

Speaker 4 (01:55:19):
Championship in the next two years is a must for
them under Kevin Durant's watch.

Speaker 7 (01:55:24):
You at least can believe it now because before I mean,
you appreciate everything Jalen Green did for you. He gave
you some really good times argument there, but at all
you're not a championship team with the team that you
were yesterday before this trade was made.

Speaker 4 (01:55:37):
It about if they thought they were they would not
have traded nine people for him, meaning assets and people,
they would not have done it. They're on the exact
same page, and they know where Kevin Durant is in
his career and what he still brings and how quickly
you need to seize this moment important.

Speaker 7 (01:55:54):
Well, I mean that's the thing is, you got those opportunities,
you've got to be able to seize it when it's
right there in front in the Rockets feel like it
is there for the taking. Tony, Gary Brandon, get you
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Speaker 7 (01:57:14):
Astros eight to seven winners over the Angels yesterday in Anaheim.
They take two or three in that series. NBA Finals
goes to the Thunder over the Pacers in seven games,
and Kevin Durant is a Houston Rocket as they make
the trade with the Phoenix Suns to send Jalen Green
Dylan Brooks tenth pick overall in the upcoming draft in

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five second round picks to Phoenix to complete the deal, someone.

Speaker 1 (01:57:39):
Three, two and two, five, seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:57:42):
Eight bodies or nine let's see two and the second
rounders first rounder, so that would be eight.

Speaker 1 (01:57:49):
Okay, So they didn't give us Durant, so nine. Okay,
there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:57:52):
Okay, So there's nine people involved and they're giving away eight.
They're not giving away a second first round pick, just.

Speaker 1 (01:57:59):
The one, yeah, just the one, the one coming up.
It's uh, this gives you a better chance to win
the whole thing. It just does. For how long we'll
see and for how healthy we'll.

Speaker 7 (01:58:12):
See, you're already better offensively today than you were with
two guys that did help you offensively a lot last season,
Dylan Brooks.

Speaker 1 (01:58:20):
Don't diminish their impact.

Speaker 19 (01:58:21):
You won.

Speaker 7 (01:58:22):
You won some games because of how well he shot
the three ball. At times he was pretty much I
would say, probably across the board. I don't know what
the stats are, but one of your most consistent three
ball shooters last year.

Speaker 4 (01:58:32):
You're you're better and you haven't had and he hasn't
taken a jump shot yet in an an ashes in
a rocketsin of farm, he'll.

Speaker 7 (01:58:38):
Be he'll be wearing an Astros UNI over there. As
a matter of fact, what's the guy from Fanatics? It's
not Gary Vee.

Speaker 1 (01:58:44):
What's uh?

Speaker 7 (01:58:45):
They're the guy that that created Fanatics. But yesterday after
that was another thing that somebody caught on video, is
he started bringing over a bunch of Houston gear Astros stuff,
you know, just other things like to kind of like
tell a kadie like, hey, you know you you need
to be ready to go when you get down there.
I would suspect that we will see in the diamond
club seats Kevin Durant sitting at an Astros game sometime

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here in the next few weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:59:08):
I would imagine you can probably guarantee it making his
way through the clubhouse. Hopefully he doesn't throw out the
first pitch though.

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
See that's the thing too.

Speaker 7 (01:59:17):
Hitting well, no, but like when it comes to you know,
because throwing a baseball is a skill.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
And I remember it a few years ago.

Speaker 7 (01:59:25):
It was when Georgia played against Notre Dame and George's
fans took over Wrigley Field that Friday night, and they
initially wanted Leonard Floyd to throw out the first ball.
Former Georgia player played for the Chicago Bears, and I
remember somebody saying, man, that's a mistake for him to
turn that down. I said, no, you're looking at it
the wrong way. He probably can't throw a baseball, so

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he doesn't want to be fifty cent. He doesn't want
to be Carli ray Jepson any of those replays out there.
He probably doesn't know how to throw a baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
I don't even care if you throw a strike.

Speaker 4 (01:59:57):
Matter of fact, throw it four feet over the guy's
head on a fast because you don't realize that the
mound and that when you when you when you're playing
fun flat ground, and then you go on a mount
and you're new at it and you throw it. It
usually tendency to be high because you don't have any
flex in your knees throw it, especially if you're thrown
from the rubber. It as a pro Kevin Durant. You
get you you got to get back to the rubber
right and it goes. I don't care if you fly it.

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Go Bob Uker on a high fastball that goes over
the catcher's head, but it's smoked.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
Oh good, you got away from you. I'm okay.

Speaker 4 (02:00:24):
But the one where the ball ends up in the dugout,
I've just never understood. And this is not disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (02:00:30):
Maybe it is.

Speaker 4 (02:00:32):
Whenever I see a professional athlete any sport that can't
pick up a ball and just toss it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
I don't mean throw it farther at least look the part.
I mean, can't you turn on like even golf.

Speaker 4 (02:00:43):
I may not strike it square when I first start square,
but I can look Okay, Okay, I watched that guy. Okay,
here's how they grip it. Okay, I could take the
club away and swing it. I mean it may not
go where I want it, but at least I can
survive it to where it looks halfway athletic. Sometimes a yeah, yeah,
I mean well more now than I've ever been. But
when you first start out I'm talking about, or you

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grow up, you watch a guy and maybe it's just different.
I'm a visual guy anyway, so okay, that guy's doing that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:08):
They're like when.

Speaker 4 (02:01:09):
Coaches put extras on the board, you talk visual, let
me see it. How to what's this concept? I've just
never understood the concept. I don't care if you're an
offensive lineman or running back, a tight end, a baseball
player football. If a baseball player can throw a ball,
can't throw a football, I don't mean because his hands
are but his form looks different. I've just never understood.
All the years growing up you didn't have to play it.

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Then you just pick up baseball. Oh this is he
just a motion to throw back and not look like
somewhat of an athlete. It always baffles me. You don't
need to throw a strike. I don't care if you
bounce it or what have you. But the one that
misses by fourteen feet outside or the one that's like
thrown where you just they kind of throw it half
armed it, and you're.

Speaker 1 (02:01:47):
Like, dude, what happened?

Speaker 6 (02:01:51):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (02:01:51):
I mean did didn't At some point in time, regardless
where you're you and your buddy picked up a rocking
through it. Forget this amaze, we all rocking through it.
It's just always bad to me. Throwing a strike kind
of problem with But I got news for you. Just
throw it around the play but hard. Let it rip,
don't do back off, throw the damn thing, but it
ends up in the dugout or down the first baseliner
hits a.

Speaker 1 (02:02:10):
Mascot in the badge, just like what the world is
going on here? And I would maybe Katie's got haven't
I seen him throw out the first pitch before Somewhere's
Maybe I haven't. I'm sure he probably somewhere.

Speaker 4 (02:02:21):
I mean he's athletic. I don't imagine he's picked up
a baseball and throwing it. I'm just talking about hell
like I use a guy like Bruce Masthews. Bruce Matthews
is an example. Bruce Matthews picked up a football and
throwed sixty yards when he was playing sixty five yards
no problem as an offensive lineman.

Speaker 7 (02:02:36):
Let's see, I've got a video in front of me, right,
now it's Kevin Durant throwing out the first ball at
a Giants game eight years ago.

Speaker 1 (02:02:44):
What it looks like.

Speaker 7 (02:02:45):
And I'm getting to that right now. He's talking with
Hunter Pence. He's walking out to the mound. Let's see.

Speaker 4 (02:02:50):
Not bad actually, okay, good, not bad. I don't remember
ever seeing him. He threw it from the mound. Okay, cool,
then good, then he's good to go. So stros I mean,
just to me, it's yeah, I'd love to see it,
but I've just never understood the concept of at least
looking the part, even if you're bounce it or throw
it over the guy's head.

Speaker 7 (02:03:09):
I always remember the guy that threw out the first
ball at the Red Sox game, and you got Wally
the mascot, and there's some poor bastard right there with
you know, he's a photographer, and he wears it right
in the midsection, and you see Wally like, you know,
as much a mascot can do of being like, oh, yeah,
hit him.

Speaker 1 (02:03:26):
Redmond is a stude, right, yeah, right? Do you talk
about that one?

Speaker 14 (02:03:29):
Right?

Speaker 4 (02:03:29):
Yeah, dropped him And it's like you couldn't hit that
spot if you tried to, and yet you still hit it.

Speaker 1 (02:03:34):
So I don't know, but maybe we'll.

Speaker 4 (02:03:36):
Get Katie throwing out the first pisure you can rest
a shirt. He'll be in an oversize jersey which is
hard for his body. Right then Astros jersey sitting down
behind home plate or somewhere now to welcome him here
and rightfully, So this is an upgrade and an exciting one.

Speaker 7 (02:03:49):
You can't miss him either. I mean, you know, as
soon as soon as he walks into the building, you
see him on the field. He's about a good seven
eight inches taller than everybody that's out there, so you'll
know it's him. And usually too, like when you get
a guy like him, you know, shows up to the park.
It's funny how quickly everybody even in the field, hey man,
what's going on? Oh, extended hand out for a handshake
the guy.

Speaker 4 (02:04:08):
He's one of the all time greats. And you're not
supposed to be right at seven foot and be able
to shoot like he did. That's just that's the inhuman
part about it. The guy's got the range of a
five to eleven dude and always has. That's to me,
we don't even talk enough about that. These cats that
are seven feet that just do stuff that when I
when you were growing up back in seventies or eighties,
that you didn't expect big fellows. Although Chamberlain was well

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before his time. But the ability to do the things
that some of these cats do now, it's it's incredible
to watch. That's why you want to do something for yourself.
Nostalgic sake is go back and watch footage of prime
a chem Elijah one. He was doing things footwork wise,
son that you're just like, that's that doesn't seem fair.
Chamberlain had really good feet. Abdul Jabbar underrated feet because

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it's just with the hook shot and get himself a position.

Speaker 1 (02:04:55):
We've never had a center.

Speaker 17 (02:04:58):
It had.

Speaker 4 (02:05:00):
Well, he played soccer and played Goldie, but we've never
had a guy whose feet were Muhammad Ali's feet on
an NBA court. And anybody that doesn't know how good
Muhammad Ali's feet were for a heavyweight, go go back
and watch. He had lightweight guy's feet. When he moved
around the ring. You couldn't hear his feet hit the canvas.
You know, I tell quarterbacks that when don't you drop back?
If I close my eyes, am I gonna hear heavy

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heavy feet glide right glide and those guys like Elijah Wang.

Speaker 1 (02:05:27):
We've never had a big man. Hell, we may never
had a somebody seven inches smaller than.

Speaker 4 (02:05:32):
Him with the feet that he had around the basket defensively, offensively,
But that's just stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:05:37):
I mean, obviously he was trained right, but that's DNA.

Speaker 4 (02:05:40):
Brother, he came out with, Like the Good Lord said,
he's gonna be special and a special basketball player. But
the athleticism is off the charts. Yeah, can't coach that. Hey,
how can my son throw a hundred?

Speaker 1 (02:05:51):
Is he born with it? No, then he ain't gonna
do it. Sorry. Hey, we got every speed coach working
with them. All right, Well, now maybe he'll run a
five flat. You're never running four four. Yeah, that's that's
just Notice.

Speaker 4 (02:06:05):
If you're a four to five two guy, you may
go four four eight, sure, But if you're if you're
a five five flat guy, I'm sorry to tell you
you ain't ever running four five.

Speaker 1 (02:06:13):
The Good Lord just blessed certain ones, and Elijah one
got a lot of blessings. I was just gonna say.
And Kevin Durant, I'm right, there's no doubt about that.

Speaker 4 (02:06:20):
And the ability to knock down shots is is He's
one of the best shooters the NBA has ever.

Speaker 7 (02:06:24):
Seen, for sure, and now the Rockets have him in
their building. Someone three two, one, two five seven ninety
real quick. Tony in Angleton, Good morning, Tony.

Speaker 18 (02:06:33):
Good morning guys. I think the reason why the Rockets
made this trade they needed an alpha dog. That they
needed that guy like like Bryant. He's thirty what thirty
six thirty seven, but he's still an alpha dog man
when he when he takes the court, he is he's
all business, uh Like, like Sean said, he's a big
guy that can move around.

Speaker 9 (02:06:53):
I think we can play him at the three.

Speaker 18 (02:06:56):
You slide him men Thompson into the two, and you
just took care of the two players you just traded.

Speaker 14 (02:07:01):
I like to trade a lot.

Speaker 18 (02:07:03):
It's a good time to be an out of a
sports fan in Houston, if you think about it. A
lot of excitement coming up for the Texans now that
the Rockets are in the mix. Astros are playing good baseball.
And don't forget about the saber Cats man our rugby team.
We're playing for a championship this weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:07:21):
I think they are to it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:07:23):
Good, they got championship. Good, that's the hooker. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (02:07:29):
I got guarantee somebody out there has got califlower here
playing rugby.

Speaker 1 (02:07:33):
I promise you that.

Speaker 18 (02:07:34):
So I think the Rockets are going to get bigger
and more physical and nashier up front. I think I
think that.

Speaker 9 (02:07:39):
I don't think they're done yet.

Speaker 18 (02:07:41):
They got to make a decision on fred Van Fleet
and I you know, I'm on the fence on that deal.
I think he's better if he has some help around him.
I don't want him to try to score thirty points
a night. I want him to facilitate. I think they're
expecting Tarry Easton, Marii Smith and and uh suppose the

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other the the swing.

Speaker 1 (02:08:03):
Man, Cam Whitmore, h Cam Whitmore.

Speaker 18 (02:08:06):
I think they're expecting a tremendous growth from those three guys.

Speaker 9 (02:08:09):
You bring in a guy on alpha dog like like Bryant.

Speaker 18 (02:08:12):
I'm not saying they're gonna win the NBA title, but
but I think last year during the playoffs, coach you
Doka was very frustrated with with with with Jalen Green.
You know, he was expecting him to step up, and
I think he's I think he's a great player. I
think he's gonna I think he has some room, a
lot of room for improvement. But I think you've seen
what you're gonna see. Uh, we're gonna miss Dylan Brooks,

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but he's a he's an enforcer man.

Speaker 1 (02:08:38):
That role can be filled. I like the trade and
I like it a lot.

Speaker 9 (02:08:42):
I like the trade a lot.

Speaker 7 (02:08:44):
Appreciate the call Tony and you know, I mean that's
that's the thing too. Of guys that you keep here.
You know you mentioned Jabari Smith Junior, Tari Easton, those
guys will see increased roles.

Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
You know, Cam Whitmore.

Speaker 7 (02:08:55):
I mean it's just you know, are are you willing
to be able to do what's necessary to stay on
the floor, because I mean that's really what it comes
down to. Offensively, we know what he can do there.
It's the other part of it, and that's I think
the lesson learning curve that he made Doka gave him
last year of Look, there's a reason why you're not
on the floor. You're not doing the part that we
have to have out of you.

Speaker 4 (02:09:15):
The first stage of coming out of a trade for
everybody is and everybody has their opinion on how this
will work. The first stage is for the organization stuff
when you come out of it. You know how you
see the war room on draft day in the NFL
and they make a pick and everybody's pumped and high
fiving and hugging and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
Oh this is the guy we want it all. Oh yeah, pick.
But that's that feeling.

Speaker 4 (02:09:39):
Either it's fake enthusiasm or it's enthusiasm, but that feeling
that you won. The first step in all this is
do the rockets and do all of us have the
feeling that right today that they won, that they're better today.

Speaker 1 (02:09:54):
I don't know how you can tell me they're not.
You don't make this trade if you don't answer that question.

Speaker 4 (02:09:58):
And Rafelstone's seen it enough. He's involved in the tail
end of the of the James Harden stuff, right, he's
seen it. He's had to replace coach, and he gets it. Uh, this,
you do not make a deal like this, unless, of course,
you say, this isn't lateral, this is upgrade. And now
you just stay healthy and now, god forbid anything happen.

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If he stays healthy the next two years, you'll see
the upgrade.

Speaker 1 (02:10:24):
You just will.

Speaker 4 (02:10:26):
This is a championship caliber team and Vegas knows it,
and the rest of the world should too.

Speaker 7 (02:10:32):
Yeah, I mean we went through the odds earlier, fourth
best odds all throughout the NBA this season, so hopefully
the Rockets could be able to play up to that
level this season. Adrian Brandon, See guys, you want to
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Speaker 4 (02:13:05):
That we would stand in and we do live at
eleven eleven o'clock Eastern Sports Center, and then sometimes depending
we go live, like after Monday Night Football Live, we
would do Post Sports Center, the one o'clock version live
right doing the highlights. But also there was times if
there was nothing going, you would tape the one o'clock
Sports Center, so you'd sit around and tape it.

Speaker 1 (02:13:24):
And I got news for you, dude.

Speaker 4 (02:13:25):
When it's taped, you sit into a you get a
little too casual, right because you're like everybody does little too.
It's okay if you screw up that line or whatever,
you're trying to do it again. Let's just do it again. Yeah,
And an hour and a half later you're like, I
want to just do it again. I'm pissed at the world.
Now you went from Okay, cool tape and I can
get home and get to bed because I got to
start early tomorrow. Nope, And by the time it is

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we should just go one live in the first place.
With live, there's this sense of urgency and focus and
dialed in. So with that, it's like we're gonna have
a jam Sessiman hit that record, you'll know when to
pick it up.

Speaker 1 (02:14:01):
All right, guys, let's just let's just practice real quick. Guys.

Speaker 4 (02:14:04):
I want to want two, three maybe, and then he
hits it like that's the one, that's the one that's
right right right. As a matter of fact, a lot
of in those jam sessions, the old garage jam sessions,
hit record and let it run until we tell you
to turn it.

Speaker 1 (02:14:17):
The rest of them don't know Bam, then there you go.

Speaker 9 (02:14:20):
So it is.

Speaker 4 (02:14:21):
It's it's amazing with the live to now live TV.
If you're not prepared from that can can beat you
down too. But prepay for there's an urgency. Yes, there's
an urgency. The MIC's always on. There's an urgency though,
of getting it right live because you don't get a
redo the tape. You get fifteen readers. And the truth is,
I never thought tape was as good. Because you miss

(02:14:43):
by the tenth one, your energy's gone. It's like again
again the live version. Say let's go, man, and you
let it rip, and you're willing to toe the line
at times for what's going over the line times, which
is no good broadcaster I've ever met has never been
slapped on my head, and they all.

Speaker 1 (02:15:00):
Have all did you say that? Yep? Sure did happened?
Right back off a little bit, right. It's the way
it is.

Speaker 12 (02:15:06):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:15:07):
I'd rather have somebody I got to back off than
somebody I got to say. Come on, man, let's go
give me some energy.

Speaker 7 (02:15:11):
Just just go off the metronome right there there, All right, guys,
let's pick it up from the top top six seven.

Speaker 4 (02:15:17):
Yeah, there you go, and we're singing it and then
all of a sudden they're like, Okay, when are we
going to start recording? It's laid down, dude, you were phenomenal.
What are you talking about it was spectacular. Here, have
a listen.

Speaker 7 (02:15:28):
Back in the studio, right, yeah, Bruce Dickinson with what
was it, Blue Oyster Cult?

Speaker 1 (02:15:34):
I gotta have more cow bell? Oh yeah, how about it?
My guys, I'm just like you. I put my pant
legs on one leg at times. Just when I do
I make gold records.

Speaker 4 (02:15:44):
Speaking of Blue Oyster Cold, first concert I ever went
to really sophomore year high school.

Speaker 1 (02:15:51):
Went with our point guard. It was two years older
than me.

Speaker 4 (02:15:53):
It took it took me to Jack Murphy Stadium, which
became qualcom Blue Oyster Cult, Cheap Trick, Pat Travers and
Blue Oyster Cheap Trick UFO, you have to Cheap Trick,
Pat Travers and Blue Oyster Cult. Yea dude, At the
time we hear that, I wasn't really I didn't know
a lot about some of you know, I'd never heard

(02:16:13):
him in concert, any of them. That was my first concert.
But you know, you know, Blue Oyster Cult was and
Pat Travers, and but after you go and contree, you say, Okay,
now I got to know more about these groups. But
now as you look back to then, you're like, Okay,
Blo Oyster Cult, Pat travers. But now you look back
and say, dude, that's a legendary foursome right there, even
though some UFO didn't turn out like some may want.

(02:16:35):
But at the time, now looking back, I'm not sure
I realized how good that concert was.

Speaker 1 (02:16:40):
It was awesome.

Speaker 7 (02:16:41):
Yeah, I mean it's one of those you know, in
the moment, you're you're not sure. And then, like you said,
the taping the lives that happens to me all the time, Bill, O'Reilly, Oh.

Speaker 1 (02:16:48):
Yeah, he ain't the only one. Brother, I can't do it. Yes,
we'll do it live. Yeah, we'll do it.

Speaker 4 (02:16:54):
Live, because this frustrated started to build a tapepe tape
like live comes on, right, and then I love like,
you know, the cutaway right there of the jim camera
oh yeah, showing him ripping off his if the walk
aroun bombs under his breath, throwing his jacket off all
and the gip and.

Speaker 1 (02:17:12):
The Jim's moving all the way around saying oh got it, okay, great, okay, Bill.

Speaker 4 (02:17:18):
Yeah, we got a new cut from sting taking away
that's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (02:17:23):
Oh Bill, Oh he just looks like a happy, go
lucky guy. The producers don't feel that way. No, there.
What they're here in their ears a lot different than
what you guys are hearing. I can tell you that.
There you go. That's one of the classes. All have those.

Speaker 4 (02:17:35):
It's fun listening to it, listening to when you're on
the set, set setting next to him. Yeah, and once
had one of those days, like if boomers had one
of those days. Well, I got this, I need this,
I need the ship. You're going back and forth. You're
like producer director, senior coordinating producer. And it's like when
Mike h one of our great senior coordinator producers. There

(02:17:55):
you know the old line when Steve Levy said he's
got a bulging disc in his back. They were talking
about football guys on the IL the following the five
told this when Laline was on the show. The following
they're doing a sports center and the following h read
the following in the segment of you know A one,
A two. The next one in line after the injury

(02:18:16):
report was I believe in O bit and Steve Leevy
comes on. They were talking about an injury. He goes
he's got a bulging disc in his back, but he
left out the s because he was a bulging Richard
in his back. Ah, dude, And that was a sports
Center and everybody's crying, laughing, and Mike McQuaid, who's a
legend in the building, Mike's.

Speaker 1 (02:18:36):
Like, you have to scratch the O bit.

Speaker 4 (02:18:38):
You got to move it now to the next break
or the next because you can't come laughing to say, oh, by.

Speaker 1 (02:18:43):
The way, this guy died, you know. And I believe
it was old segment.

Speaker 4 (02:18:47):
I think Olberman was on the set we have to
and they came back or Olberman right when he said
he's got a bulging disc.

Speaker 1 (02:18:52):
Now, one thing about Olberman, he's a wacko.

Speaker 4 (02:18:55):
I was his intern at KTLA Channel five before he
became Keith Olberman. Yeah, dude at Sports Center. A phenomenal writer.
He could write Sports Center probably in a tenth of
the time everybody else could. Brilliant mind when it came. Now,
that doesn't take away from the fact that he's a wacko.
But when he was there, I think after Levy said that,
I think it was him who said when he said

(02:19:18):
he's got a bulging Richard in his back, I think
it was Oldman who said that's got to hurt.

Speaker 1 (02:19:24):
Because Lee and Levi just and what do you do?

Speaker 4 (02:19:26):
It happens, right, it happens all the time, and just
wear of course you know, I mean not that, but
you just you know, you deal with it.

Speaker 1 (02:19:35):
You didn't mean to.

Speaker 4 (02:19:36):
But the crazy thing about it was live going into
it's like, what in the hell all hell's breaking loose arounds?

Speaker 1 (02:19:41):
We've got an Oh, but how's the timing?

Speaker 4 (02:19:43):
And you're talking about bulging discs but bulging Richard, And
then the laughs, dude, that's some of the most fun
stuff we ever is like, oh my gosh, how are
we coming on of?

Speaker 1 (02:19:51):
This is the best to.

Speaker 7 (02:19:54):
Kasey kase the famous one, see you come out, come
out of those up tempo numbers.

Speaker 1 (02:19:58):
They do this to me every time. And where are
those damn pictures I asked for? Yeah, exactly. So I'm
doing a dog dedication yeap. Yeah, it's it's tough.

Speaker 4 (02:20:07):
And then transfer the laughs to this and all of
a sudden got a little bit coming up nice.

Speaker 1 (02:20:11):
Yeah, yeah, it's don on the phone. Sometimes you can't.

Speaker 4 (02:20:14):
I've been on that set sometimes and Dan or somebody
had made me laugh so that you come back live
and your head's on the desk laughing, and the producers
saying director Saint Sean.

Speaker 1 (02:20:23):
Camera two's on. But you're laughing so hard, you're crying
and you can't.

Speaker 2 (02:20:26):
What do you do?

Speaker 1 (02:20:27):
You just have to fun, right, That's just It's like
when Charlie Steiner saw Carl Lewis thing.

Speaker 4 (02:20:31):
The National ath I was like, what are you going
to do? If you don't laugh, go to break? If
you don't laugh, then that's that's real, right, Just don't
be a robot?

Speaker 1 (02:20:40):
Right right, exactly. It happens.

Speaker 4 (02:20:41):
And I missed those days of Sports Center because it
was the grind, But man, was it fun fun?

Speaker 5 (02:20:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:20:48):
It was a blast man. Dan Patrick gone, Yeah, I
always love those.

Speaker 4 (02:20:53):
They they I think we tried too hard to force
those Those guys were just natural and we had some
of the best talent I've ever been a part of.
And Leaves was part of what is he supposed to do? Like, yeah,
my bad bettings happened, Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (02:21:04):
It's live TV. All of us been there.

Speaker 7 (02:21:06):
Yeah, live radio too. Yes, we're not immune to it either.
Adrian Gary Brandon, get you guys involved in the conversation.
Do you want to get to some of the Dana
Brown stuff from yesterday's I thought he had some interesting
things to say, so we'll have all that four close
up shop here on a Monday Sean Salisbury Show. The
seven ninety listener line here in the nine o'clock hour
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Speaker 1 (02:21:28):
Adrian wants to weigh in. Adrian, Good morning, Mortals. Well,
how you doing good man?

Speaker 14 (02:21:34):
Ah, that's all right, that's all right.

Speaker 19 (02:21:35):
I'm doing pretty good. Saw the street pharmacists this morning,
so I'm doing pretty good anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:21:41):
Ah.

Speaker 19 (02:21:43):
I love this peeing contest going on with our GMS here.
Mister Cassario walked out and said, here, let me go
ahead and start this.

Speaker 9 (02:21:50):
We saw what he did.

Speaker 19 (02:21:52):
Raphael Stone looked at him, was like, god, Trent Nick,
but I'm gonna want up you here, don't mind me.
I'm gonna mister Durant back to Texas. Nick looked at him,
He's like, good track. So guess what, Dan, you know
it's your turn and that's the good news there.

Speaker 1 (02:22:12):
Well, real quick, what kind of news you want from
the astros? What are you looking for?

Speaker 4 (02:22:16):
And not the health wise because that's out of Dan's control.
What is that move you're looking for?

Speaker 6 (02:22:22):
You know what?

Speaker 19 (02:22:23):
I agree with him, We need a left handed stick
because when the cyboard gets back, left hand is taken
care of. But I don't want him tired come the playoffs,
because that's when he mashes his best. We already know
he's going to be one hundred percent. And this pitching staff,
this bullpen especially needed this day off. Everything falls in
a great place so far this season, and uh as far.

Speaker 9 (02:22:46):
As everything else.

Speaker 19 (02:22:48):
California, even though I'm in Texas, I'm so proud. You
ain't gonna walk in here and take our neighbors.

Speaker 9 (02:22:55):
Bruh uhh.

Speaker 2 (02:22:56):
Not like this.

Speaker 14 (02:22:57):
Everybody gets to do process.

Speaker 1 (02:22:59):
And let me warn you.

Speaker 19 (02:23:00):
When you get to Watts and you get to the valley,
just remember the cops don't even go in there.

Speaker 14 (02:23:06):
The rescue people.

Speaker 7 (02:23:08):
He appreciate the call, Adrian, see a lot of California
license plates around here.

Speaker 4 (02:23:14):
Stop moving here. The one thing I know about, no
more room. One thing I know about he's talking about Watts,
about like the Nickerson Garden, Compton areas and stuff, is
He's right. Police won't go into some of those areas.
They don't need to because those folks police themselves. And
if you walk in there and you decide to start
raining on their parade and I'm talking about looting or

(02:23:37):
doing it in there. I mean, I know it's happened,
but now they they they there's a reason why they don't.
Cops don't go in there. They know how to play it.
I mean that is a comp I mean, you said,
you're complimenting a tough area with the school not too
far from there, obviously, and they know how to police
their area. They want, they want to they want to

(02:23:58):
be the ones who run the show, right, and.

Speaker 1 (02:24:02):
They don't.

Speaker 4 (02:24:02):
They don't want anybody to disrupt that, regardless of what
walk of life you're from.

Speaker 1 (02:24:07):
How's that that makes this? That is that a simpler
way to put it? Yeah, we know, we know how
things go in the neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (02:24:13):
That's exactly right. And they protect what's in their neighborhood
and rightfully so. But they also will run out those
who try to come in and squat in their neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (02:24:22):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:24:23):
That's not that's it's a they think different and they
get that respect from everybody else. Lets them police and
not from here. And you're going to tell me how
this neighborhood goes, That's not how it goes. There's a
few areas in that area that that Adrian's talking about.
That's not happening, ye, that that that area there, regardless
whether it's you, it doesn't matter what side of the
fence you sit on with when it comes to politics.

(02:24:45):
They know who's supposed to be in there and who
is and they will protect it till you. And I
know that because I've had teammates and buddies that lived
it and one watched his dad get shot and killed
when he was growing up, so that that ha and
so they know they protect their own and the first

(02:25:07):
responders police, they understand that part of the country. Let's
just put it that way. Gotcha, That makes sense, jotcha,
It's a fact.

Speaker 1 (02:25:15):
Talk to you.

Speaker 4 (02:25:15):
I mean, I'm just I'm not telling you anything they
don't know, but I'm just telling you it's there's a
deep bond inside there, whether you like the danger of
it or not, as a deep bond when you roll
in there. Hence why the police officers say you take
care of which we have at it And I get it.

Speaker 7 (02:25:34):
Well, the Rockets had at getting Kevin Durant in the
trade and Gary wants to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (02:25:38):
Gary, good morning, Hey guys.

Speaker 8 (02:25:40):
Good morning, real quick first, for to the Rockets sewn,
You reminded me of my first concert.

Speaker 14 (02:25:45):
It was back in the late sixties.

Speaker 8 (02:25:47):
I saw the Who at the Sam Houston Coliseum and
they freaked me out at the end because they busted
up all their instruments and I.

Speaker 14 (02:25:55):
Didn't know back then that they were doing that on purpose.
But that was my first concert.

Speaker 1 (02:25:59):
There's all guitar.

Speaker 14 (02:26:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure that. I'm sure that was
the cheaper ones there.

Speaker 2 (02:26:07):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (02:26:08):
I don't know. My apologies if somebody has talked about
this or yeah I brought this up, but I haven't
heard it.

Speaker 1 (02:26:14):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (02:26:14):
On the rockets trade right there.

Speaker 2 (02:26:16):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (02:26:16):
If you if you're going after a superstar that's already
reached the pinnacle, and you got somebody that's trying to
reach it, is not not there yet and probably will
reach it, you have to give up more to get
the guy that's already been there, if he's still got
active legs on him.

Speaker 14 (02:26:31):
To get the guy, you have to give him up.
You have to give up more to get the get
the one that's already been there.

Speaker 8 (02:26:36):
So and I hated the Sea Green Go because I
thought he had the most spoke and he probably does
the most potential of all of.

Speaker 14 (02:26:42):
Them, but they didn't want to wait around when they
had the opportunity. So let me ask you a question.
The what's the owner's name of the Rockets?

Speaker 2 (02:26:51):
Is he?

Speaker 14 (02:26:52):
I know the owner up there in Dallas is so proactive?
Was his theme? But is this owner?

Speaker 8 (02:26:57):
Is he active with the players or does he just
kind of stand back and watch it, watch it happen.

Speaker 7 (02:27:03):
I mean, I think his hands on to a point,
appreciate the call Gary, we're up against the break.

Speaker 1 (02:27:06):
I think he trusts the guys that he's hired. That's that's. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:27:10):
One thing about Tillman Furtita. If you go buy his business,
I'm driving through. I'll make this real quick opening night
of Mastros here if you want to just know how
he is. And I think I don't think Tilma Fatita
gets into any business that he doesn't know everything that's
going on. Sure that there's a different scene knowing everything
and meddling and everything, and maybe, but I'm just saying
from my vantage point, I saw it in full form,

(02:27:31):
pulled up to the drive through and mastered. When I said,
the drive not the drive through where you getting up? Hey,
give me a mistake. The valet, and it was it
was there like soft up opening. It was the little
welcome people in and walks out the door and stands
to the left watching Ballet opening night, not talking to anybody.
I mean, he was just minding his own business. And
why he was watching. I sat there and watching him, well,

(02:27:55):
wait car and get out and get in the ticket
and all that. I watched him watch vale as if
he was stating it wasn't on his phone out there,
just kind of a keen eye like, okay, is this
running smoothly? Are they getting a minute out of cars efficiently?

Speaker 1 (02:28:09):
Is there?

Speaker 4 (02:28:09):
Are they handling customers right? And I've never met him personally,
and when I saw that, you know, the reputation is
Tilman Ferteita.

Speaker 1 (02:28:17):
He runs.

Speaker 4 (02:28:17):
He's a big time businessman and has obviously done a
phenomenal job well with all the things he's done in
his businesses. And I was watching, I thought, oh, now
I get it. The attention to detail of just making
sure that everything's precise and dynamic down to the guy
that's parking your car. So to answer Gary's question, my
assumption is that, well, I think he trusts his big

(02:28:41):
boss at the front office around him because He's got
a lot to do and you have to trust some people,
and he does.

Speaker 1 (02:28:48):
But make no mistake about it.

Speaker 4 (02:28:49):
I doubt there's much going on in the building from
concessions to his office that he doesn't know about, and
I think that's a good thing that he's I think
he's engaged. But I also think he knows rafel Stone
knows basketball, yeah, and Udoka. And then part of being
a great business matter, a great in anything is knowing
your weaknesses as well as your strength. I don't know

(02:29:10):
how many weaknesses you have, but recognizing that rafel Stone
can pull off this trade, all approve it and get
out of the way because that's.

Speaker 1 (02:29:17):
Who they are. And then you take it to him.
And who's going to complain about Kevin Durant.

Speaker 7 (02:29:20):
I'd say the best way to describe him visible and accessible,
but also trust the people that he has in there.

Speaker 1 (02:29:27):
Rafel email his son Patrick. Yes, you're not getting ry instrument.

Speaker 4 (02:29:30):
I doubt you're going to see Tillman Fatita sitting on
the end of the bench, running up to the referee
and arguing over a call like we've seen some owners.
Do you know if you know what I'm talking and
getting technical fouls was thinking of the guy that used
to be the majority of the turner. So I think
that yes, so does he involved heavily like all of
his businesses, because that's who he's been. And part of

(02:29:52):
it is a lot of the feeling of if I'm
not involved, how am I going to build success? So
I watched it, I got and thought, you know what,
I get it, and I now get it because he
was watching every little detail and.

Speaker 1 (02:30:05):
It was not long.

Speaker 4 (02:30:05):
He wasn't hovering over the guys, just fole by himself
and then went back inside and made sure everybody was
there and you know, shake hands, kiss babies and watch
your operation. But the ability that guys like him just
don't miss much. They just don't.

Speaker 1 (02:30:16):
They're there there on their own point.

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Speaker 7 (02:31:58):
Ninety real quick on the Astros the Dana Brown stuff,
just because we were so Kevin Durant heavy today, I
think that does carry over to tomorrow, so we will
get into some of that from his visit yesterday with
Robert Ford on Astro Launch. But you know one thing
that I did want to talk about though, Sean before
we get out of the show today, is I get
that right now you have jose L Twva playing a

(02:32:20):
lot of second base really by necessity. No, Brandon Rogers,
you want to still be able to move around, Mauricio Dubon.
You give at least an off day in the field
to Jeremy Paniez. You dhed him yesterday, but you're kind
of limited, and of course Luis ki Ormay helps you out.
But this is getting painfully to the point where he's
almost becoming Chuck Knoblock over there. And I'm talking about

(02:32:43):
the double play yesterday. That's a tailor made six four
to three double play that he throws wide at first.
Then eventually one of the runners that was still on
base comes around. The score makes it a two run
game at that point, which almost became pretty costly. I mean,
you had the tying run on second base with Mike
Trout at the plate at the ninth inning yesterday, and

(02:33:03):
luckily you're able to get Jake Myers, being who he is,
out there in center field to track down the liner
from Mike Trout.

Speaker 1 (02:33:08):
So it's all's well, that ends well. But do you
think he's a detriment at second base. I think he's
a massive defensive detriment at second base. And I didn't
say I said second didn't. Yeah, yeah he did.

Speaker 7 (02:33:18):
And I mean, and I think he's played a serviceable
left field. I think he's been fine for you out there.
And I think that when Jordan gets back and you
are able to have a little bit more flexibility in
this lineup, that you will see him playing less second base.
But you get to the playoffs and you've got to
count on him being there. You're trying to tell me
where you can't. You can't sub him out of the game.

(02:33:39):
His bat's too valuable, right you got to have him
in there. I just I look at it and I'm like,
I can't have because that happens to you in the playoffs.
You don't turn a double play that was Taylor made
like that, that can lose you a ball game.

Speaker 1 (02:33:53):
Yeah, moving forward, you wonder is he gonna have to
dh more? That's I think that's definitely gonna be on
the table for sure.

Speaker 4 (02:34:03):
And more yard on in the outfield could be. But
you don't want him at second base anymore. No worth
a long discussion point tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (02:34:13):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:34:13):
That's a jumping off point. There you go.

Speaker 7 (02:34:15):
It's been a fun day here on a Monday edition
to the Shawn Salisbury Show. He's Sean Tripoli, Emmanuel Elmore,
Dan Matthews here the Matt Thomas Show with Ross coming
up next. We will talk to you in twenty hours
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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