Astros Win Series Over Braves; Drops 2nd in Division, UH Beats UTEP, Texans vs. Bucc's MNF, Steve Sparks Weekly Segment!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc Troup's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Dan matthewscuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Braves.

Speaker 5 (00:24):
A run probably was going to score there anyway, but
there certainly should have been an out recorded as well.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Pray with the deep crouch. Here's the three to two
chopper up the middle, could be too short. Stop Kim
has it steps on second, out over.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
The first base, double play the one to zero and
that is lined in the left center and down for
a base hit. A Profar scores Olsen around third. He
will score into third base. Goes a Kunya Ozzie. All
these drives in two with a single and the Braves
lead four to two. O two and that's whacked in

(01:00):
the center of another base hit. Akunya scores alb stops
at second. A hard hit single for Hasan Kim and
from Brevaldez has yet to get it out here. In
the fifth, as the Braves increase their lead to five
to two, the first five batters have all reached pitch
on the way and Paynia pops it up right out
in front of the home plate. Leon comes out in

(01:22):
front of the plate and said, Olsen comes in, makes
the catch, and that is the ball game. So the
Houston Astros miss out on a chance to sweep the
Atlanta Braves, falling in Atlanta eight to three, and now
set a half game behind the Mariners in the first
place in the Al West.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
Well at the time, it was a half game. Now
it is a full game because then the Mariners clabbered
the Angels. No thanks to Roger and JP for not
being able to summon Owl in the rest of the
Angels to help the Angels. But still the way that
the Mariners played him yesterday, I don't think it would
have mattered.

Speaker 7 (02:00):
And with that we say away we go in good morning.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Here on the shot.

Speaker 7 (02:04):
Oh the movie Angels now, oh yeah, I just said,
Joseph Gordon love it.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
And I don't know who played JP, but you've got
Danny Glover as the as the manager.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I just saw it last week. Yeah, it's a great movie,
isn't pretty damn good movie?

Speaker 7 (02:18):
And it's and it's funny. It's a good message it does.

Speaker 6 (02:21):
It's got a great message, but it's also the who's
who before they were who they're in that movie.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, it's pretty impressive.

Speaker 6 (02:28):
Good lineup, it is, for sure, but unable to get
them to help out yesterday. But the Astros, as you
just heard Robert Ford tell you, did take two out
of three over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Friday night was fun. I mean that was really really enjoyable.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
Where you get Zach Cole up and he says, hey,
my first at bat, how about the first pitch?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I just go over a right center field wall. Yeah,
not bad. Huh, welcome, welcome to it. It was nice.
It's two out of three, eight bad. As we always
say about the cut. But the problem is when you
were losing, uh Mariner lost. Now that you're winning for
the you won two out of three. They took care
of their business, got a one game lead. Now it's

(03:06):
just here we go with with you know what, four
series or five series to go and the season's over
and hopefully get into the playoffs. But you got six
of them against division, well more than the Angels as well.
It's nine of them against division opponents. And they who
they play next the Astros, Yeah it's Rangers here erst

(03:28):
the night. Yeah, that's exactly right. So you get the
division's going to take care of it. We'll see how
we'll see how they fare against two teams that are
in a chase. And Seattle's playing good baseball, so happens
and Fromer's not the same dude, Man, he just I
don't know if it's mental, mechanical, physical, But there's a

(03:49):
part of me that I mean, it's I don't know, man,
I don't know where his head is. I don't he
just and I don't want he's just one inning, Well, wanning,
we do play nine, can't. Well it's just two innings, Well,
we play nine of them. If I look at a
football team, say, man, you guys are great for three quarters,
but you still lost. I don't Yeah, I don't know.

(04:14):
I don't know how you. I mean, hell asked the Colts.
But that's like a team that they found a way
to take care of their business that I'd never had
the to it. Oh, Daniel Jones is at MVP candidate
two weeks into the season. But yeah, Astro, just you know,
you win series, you hope that you get a little leeway.
You were fortunate that they were losing when you were losing,
and you win and Seattle bingo bango bongo take didn't

(04:38):
they sweep the series?

Speaker 8 (04:38):
Then?

Speaker 2 (04:39):
They go three straight, the Mariners, I.

Speaker 7 (04:41):
Think I went four. They went four straight.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Oh they played it was a four game series. And slastersay,
well there you go. So now you're now you're the
one in the chase mode. So see how that does
for pressure?

Speaker 9 (04:52):
What have you?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Every one of them, he's got to play them all
and you got to keep your stars in the lineup
and hope you get production. But U is just not
the same guy, dude, He's just not a great stuff.
You great, I know all that. You can't tell me.
This is the same picture. You saw a lot of
self inflicted stuff, and you know, but it doesn't help.

(05:12):
And de Bond kicks it around and give extra you're
give an extra outs. He's not pitching well enough to
give extras too. That's the ut. And here you are,
your game out and kind of what we expected. You're
there's there's only a handful to go, a couple of handfuls,
and so we'll go find out. We'll go find out
real quick. Well, I mean, and that's where you know.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
Now it turns to the week, that is because tonight
you start up that series with the Rangers, Like I said,
where you've got Jason Alexander going to go against Jack
Lder to get that series going. And you know, I
was on with Randy McAvoy last night for Sports Sunday
on KPRC two, and I said, the playoffs have started,
Like you're you're in the playoffs right now. It's a

(05:55):
little bit of an inverse of what it was a
couple of years ago where the final week of the
season is when you had that series in Seattle and
then you had the final series against the Diamondbacks.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
But I mean, now you get it a week earlier
this year. That's what this series is.

Speaker 6 (06:09):
That's what this week is with you taking on both
Texas and Seattle, where Sean anything less than four and two,
you're not making the postseason.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well, let's see, there are six teams that go correct
division winners and three wild cards, and right now Yankees
are in Toronto, in from the East, Detroit, Seattle, what
the Red Sox and the Astros is not the way

(06:41):
it is right now?

Speaker 6 (06:42):
Yes, so as of right now, and I just had
the wild card standings, the Astros have the final wildcard spot,
but the team that you're facing for the next three games,
they're two games behind you.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
And the Rangers yeah, I mean, so it's you're gonna
have to I don't know what they have to do.
Depends on what the other teams do as well. I mean,
even though here, if you get two games behind or
after this series you're one game up, you you know,
they take two and Taia and then you lose a
third one say you're one talking over the Rangers. So

(07:18):
the Rangers say they didn't say they It gets to
one and three, I mean to one and two in
this and so that would make time up with with
their division not counting Seattle. Forget that right now. Let's
just assume Seattle wins a division and so but you
still but Boston is still it's it's Boston, you and
you're battling the Rangers for the third would be one

(07:40):
team fighting for three, I mean three teams fighting for one.
So yeah, you'd like to hope you go four six.
I don't know the way they're playing. I'm not sure
that's overly real to expect, but if they do, that'll
be nice. But if they go two and four, they
still got a chance. It depends on what Texas and
Seattle and Boston do and the rest of their series.
But Shervy nice not have to go in chase it

(08:02):
on a regular basis, but we know with pitching and hitting,
both the teams are going to face here and six games,
are both formidable and both know how to win. And
Seattle's played really really good baseball and we know they
can slug. So I don't know. Honestly, I'd like to
say here and say, oh it's a no brainer. I
don't know what to expect from him, do you in

(08:22):
game to game? Yeah, I really inconsistency, But I'm talking
about I don't know what to expect. I don't know
if they're capable of winning six in a row the
way they've played. No, not six in a row.

Speaker 6 (08:34):
I mean, I don't think that it's hard at home
to ask for your team to win two back to
back series. But I mean, and that's the thing, though,
is you know, oh we won the series. I mean,
I heard Joe a spot. I knew that was the
first thing he was going to say yesterday. Well, the
positive we take is we won the series. Okay, Well,
the other team doesn't stop losing. So when you have
a chance to win a game, then win the game.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
Win the game.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
You'd think after winning too straight and I'm running from
bro out there. You got a pretty good chance to
do it, you would think, you would think, but it's listed,
it's going to be. I know this is crazy. I
love the fact that you've got a battle, that that
it's competitive.

Speaker 10 (09:13):
I do.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I don't care that well. You don't want a ten
game lead, Yeah, sure, but I wouldn't be. I'd be
hell of was a ten game lead nobody had, none
of us would have really paid attention this weekend. We'd
have been hell It's tough enough during football season to
pay attention to all of it. Anyway, if they were
at a ten game lead, you kind of check out
to the playoffs, like, yeah, a great ten game lead.
We'll see you when the playoffs start when it matters again,
because you know they're playing other players and getting rest

(09:35):
and the rest of it. But gotta stay just like
I mean, fans, got to stay engaged. The when you're
ten games out with you know, a handful to go,
you check out that way when you're ten games up,
you say, well, let me get a little sabbatical, ease
my mind of all that baseball drama, and I'll see
you when the playoffs start. It's football time. Well, when
you're in this one, it's it may be football time,

(09:58):
but it's still baseball time. You've got to as a fan,
you're staying engaged.

Speaker 11 (10:02):
I do.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I love this. Plus we keep hearing grit and resilience,
which is who they've been. There's no doubt. Well, guess what,
they get a chance to prove it. They get a
legitimate chance. It's basically not that single elimination. You lose
a game is going to put you in a way
that you're out. But you have to approach it that way.
You just do, and if you don't, you won't make it.
If this is, oh, it's still a long season approach,

(10:26):
then you then you're gonna find yourself that long seed
is gonna end quickly. You're gonna find yourself going home
with all the other team. Then you'll end up being
no different than the Colorado Rockies. That's who you If
you don't make it, that's who you are. Nobody cares
the pecking order after the playoffs. We're not going to
say this is the twenty eighth best team. Nobody cares. Well,
at least we warn't Colorado great, and at least you

(10:46):
warn't Seattle, So you got a choice. I love this
because the astros we've known in the past have found
a way to get this done. Does it end? Does
it stop here? Or do they have to forget the
resilience and the grit. Do they have the talent and
the wherewithal to go win a division and get into
the playoffs? Because I wouldn't test the wild card. I

(11:07):
would just soon win the division and let everybody else
battle for that. We'll let the other three battle for
the two spots. Okay, that's what I'd want. So listen
if you like. If you like a little sports drama
and like a little sports competitiveness, you got it. And
I'm okay, and I'm here for every second of it,

(11:28):
because in truth, if there was ten games to go,
I mean, if they had a ten game lead right now,
I would have a baseball would have just that would
have been on the back burner for a second, I'll see,
but till the playoffs kicked in to give your own
minus sabbatical. So I like it this way, And if
they don't, they only got themselves to blame. There will
be no umpire to blame, there will be nobody. It's
them and you can blame it on injuries, but there's

(11:48):
plenty of teams that go through that so and nobody
usually wants to hear at the end of the season
the excuses and they don't make them. But they have
to do more than win series. You have to sweep
one or two along the way to put yourself because
you've created that now. Yeah, and that's when and that's
where we are. But I love it because it keeps
you fully engaged. Because I'll raise my end right now.

(12:09):
Your team's up ten games. My team's up ten games,
whether it's my Raiders, whether it's the Astros. I okay,
I'll see when it when single elimination matters. So if
they're not, if their approach isn't it's single eliminating. All
we lost the game, that's cool, We'll be okay. If
that's the thought, probably we got twelve more to play
or whatever it is. Then then you're going to find
yourself on the short end. It has got to be.

Speaker 9 (12:29):
You know.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
It reminds me and I know I'd use golf reference
a lot. You got a guy who's won five times
this year going into this tournament. It's the Pro Core tournament.
It's in Napa Valley. You'd rather go there with your
Ryder Cup teammates and drink wine and have you know,
leadership in bonding time together. Well, they go there and

(12:50):
you got these tournaments you're playing to get ready for
two weeks from now or well about nine days from
now Ryder Cup starts, and it's like, okay, what does
Scotty Scheffler really have to did? Seriously go there? Tune
up a little bit because the last time we took
before a Ryder Cup two years ago, they took like
five weeks off. Only one guy played in a tournament
in like five weeks and they got their ass handed
to them. But when you stay engaged in competition, especially golf,

(13:14):
you know how quick as hell. Anybody who plays it
knows how easy to lose the man five weeks. It's
like you clinched the division in mid December and football,
and then you're wondering why in January you've taken that
game off, you didn't play your players the last game,
and then you get the wild card round that you're
not playing. So it's like a training camp distance before
he playing, you wonder why he can't come out and
play until the third quarter. Oh, we're well rested, but

(13:35):
we ain't focused. So I like this in Scheffler, what's
he do? And they made the point of saying it
it would have been easier. I'm just getting tuned up.
I finished in fifth place. The dude won the tournament.
That's the sixth win of the year. And it's not
even it's not for you. It's not a major. They
all matter. Hell, it's a couple more million dollars, but
for him, he's past that point. It's just I'm gonna
prove it. I'm gonna go bury the field. And his

(13:57):
philosophy is no matter how many I played in, the
only thing that matters is a shot i'm hitting. I
could care less about the Ryder Cup right now. Forget
tuned up for the Ryder Cup. If I'm playing, I'm
going to win it. I'm the best player in the world.
I'm supposed to win it. And what's he do? He
goes and wins out of it. And it's the same
thing here, so you know what, And he treats it
every single time like it's like I think he stands

(14:17):
over a putt in a major or in a tournament
that's not a major. I think for him, they're the same,
and I think that's why the majors become so dude,
he has a bad day and they called it a
bad day. They said, oh, he gets to clear his mind.
And then this is kind of nice for him to
get back in the rhythm after his you know, last
outing at the Tour Championship with this tough outing, tough outing,

(14:37):
the guy finished in fourth place. See what I'm saying
at fourth place is just like, oh, a yawner. For him,
it's the same thing. You finished twenty fifth in the league.
You don't make the plass. Nobody gives a rat's ass.
You're twenty fifth, you're seventeen, you didn't make the playoffs. Yeah,
and so the tune in thing and tune it up,
and the astros absolutely, if they're who we think they are,
have to approach it that you lose tonight. Oh man,

(15:01):
every game your your your lineup card, and everything has
to be approached as if this is single game elimination.
We ain't saving anybody for squat or at least you
shouldn't be. And no more scheduled off days, any of
those things. How would I seen two bay off two
in the last two days, four games. I know, I
get it. I know what's a foot issue? Needs a

(15:23):
day rest? Yeah, scheduled day off. So if he plays today,
is the foot heeled? I guess, I don't know. That's
why I get I'm gonna say it. Play hurt. We
all do injured tougher to play. And there is a difference.
You got a cold or you're throwing up with food poisoning,
big difference. A little sniff, Yeah, a little sorry, there's

(15:45):
a shot and tape. Let's go. Okay, let's get this
thing going. Sorry, Sometimes you just gotta do. Sometimes you
just gotta roll. Okay.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
Well, hopefully he is able to roll with the Astros
here in this series. Again, they're gonna get going tonight
against the Rangers. Also tonight Monday Night Football over at
NRG Stadium, Texans and Bucks. We'll get into that as
the show goes along. Jt Rogers see you right there.
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(16:15):
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Speaker 7 (16:19):
Putting the logic in illogical.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Former pro sean Salisbury continues to break it down once
seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I do have a question about that ask away guy
had a hamstring so bad that the suggestion was missed
the sea, I mean the suggest that game, the option
missed the season and get it surgically repaired, right, mm hmm.
Yet without getting it repaired, which would have taken him
all the way to spring, and you know, probably maybe

(16:50):
even deeper into it as he as his healing hamstringer.
That soft tissue stuff can be a can linger. But
by not doing it now he's ready to play. I mean,
at least see he's in position they believe. But my
point is, you see, you see what I've seen a discrepancy,
and it's like the well, he's got a hamstring, it's
six months to a year and a half, oh so

(17:10):
fall somewhere in there. He's gonna I just it's crazy
because I know, you shed a knee, you shed it,
it's going to take a while for I mean, good
on him, man. Maybe it wasn't as severe as they
thought that, Maybe it didn't require that rest was more
important than surgery.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
It's better than a Grade three turf toe like Joe
Burrow has, which now he's going to be out. It's
going to require surgery and he's likely out three months.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Joe Burrow is never going to reach the potential that
we think that's in the NFL because his injuries. And
you know what, we say it about everybody else. If
you told me like I said, there's very few guys
I'm taking over Burrow as my quarterback. The problem is
is it? And it's just harsh to say because I
know what it's like to be banged up and missed
two seasons in college because of the injuries, and it sucks.

(18:00):
We're never going to see his fullest potential with the
constant injury situation. We just aren't. And you can't put
him as the best in the league, just like I
can't put Tunsel when they all he's the best. You
know when the ball snapped, well guess what. All the
pre snap stuff takes eight Well that's part of playing
that caveat's got to be told to h So you're

(18:21):
not the best in the league if you're creating problems
for my team. And Joe, who is such a good player,
but every year there he's missing. It's I I'm not
putting on him. I know he's tough because we've seen it.
But the injuries are going to prevent him from from
reaching his fullest potential or for us giving him what.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
He needs sewn Sean Frommer is a really good pitcher
if he doesn't have that one any right.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, but if we played eight okay, and if my
ann had ball, she'd be my uncle. So she's not.
And we play nine inning games and we and we
got to stay healthy's quarterback. But I mean, you know,
Browning came in there, they want a game, but it
just these injuries things, man, that hold people back. And
in three months on a turf toe three months?

Speaker 7 (19:05):
What about a sore hand?

Speaker 2 (19:08):
I don't I don't know what to tell you on that.
Like I said, there's a difference between me and hurt
and injured. But think about the fortunes of Cincinnati already,
even though Browning's a good backup, think about their fortunes. Now.
If you're thinking about where you really want to go,
can you get there with Burrow or are you like
already disheveled as a franchise over what happened this past weekend?

Speaker 6 (19:30):
Yeah, well Baltimore, I mean they did play the Browns yesterday,
but still Baltimore looks like they're they're prime to be
able to run away with that.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Well, I'm gonna tell you what, be careful of the
guy up in the Northeast, because Buffalo is pretty damn good. Dude,
I think you can say what you want. I think
that Josh Allen's the best player in the world right now.

Speaker 8 (19:48):
I do.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
I just think that everything he does and Philadelphia just
keeps trying. I told you that Kanstity's offense is very good. Man,
They're not. They're there. I questioned them, even with Worthy
and then Rice on the field. I mean, they're both
potential great But I'm telling you about.

Speaker 7 (20:08):
Travis Kelsey should have walked away last year.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Balls that he would have got two years ago. He
can't even been down and get him right now. Right
it's I don't see him two more years in the
league unless he decides he wants to be a backup.
It's getting to I mean, he's listen, he's a really
let me let me back that up. The guy is
still a good player, He's nowhere near what he was.
There's other things interesting and I get it, and he's competitive.

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He also made a great catch and run and put
the ball out there, you know, to get to get
a first down on a third or fourth down play.
And so he's still got He's a really solid route runner,
but he's balls are hitting him like he's a little
late to the ball like I've never seen before with him.

Speaker 7 (20:47):
The interception there and went.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Down at the goal line, and then the one in
the flat for example, one of the flat that was
down by his knees, got two hands onto the ball
at the ground. So he just is it's different. Can't
say Chiefs offense is not that talented. They're they're they're okay.
And it goes to show you that even the great
Patrick Mahomes comes up short when your offense is just
blah and they're Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. Camp save

(21:10):
an offense and doesn't have a lot of good players,
and they really don't. They're okay, They're just okay. Their
defense is far more talented than their offense.

Speaker 7 (21:18):
That's the age old.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
You pay your quarterback be prepared for what happens after that,
and Kansas City's living that life right now. All right,
we'll get back into the Astros conversation. Like I said,
j T and Roger will get you involved. You want
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on a Monday Sports Talk seven ninety. The Shawn Salisbury
Show continued Get it Fired Up this morning on the
phone lines. J T wants to start us off. J T,
good morning, Hey, good, good morning.

Speaker 9 (21:57):
I was flipping back and forth yesterday between NFL and
the Astros and I saw this. So when I put
back in the fifth inning, I was on the Brave
feed and it was in Fromber's melt down inning. And
I don't know if anybody if this is on the
Astro speed too, but you could readily see there was

(22:19):
a play where the ball kind of got away from
yin air Diaz right, so the camera is kind of
cuts away. It is on him. He's picking up the
ball and he clearly takes his mask off. I don't
speak Spanish, but he clearly is screaming at Fromber and

(22:43):
instead of going to the mound for a mountain visit,
he just takes the ball disgustingly and just freaking throws
it back at him and the Brave that was funny
the Braves announcing team. They didn't say anything, but there
was a pause and you could hear like their color commentator,
He's like, oh, like there's something going on. So I

(23:03):
would ask you, and the other thing that I've noticed
about Fromber if you if you cover the ass follow
the ASTs on social media. You remember back in the day,
they'd always Julian Morales. They'd always have the fun bunch
picture of those guys. You know, don't see that anymore.
So I would ask you, Sean Salisbury, who was a
professional athlete, do you are where there are situations in

(23:27):
your career or in professional sports even if you're a
professional athlete, And I know these guys play at a
high level, but they've had enough of this teammate that
in fact it impacts performance and outcome on the field. Now, hey,
it's all with Fromber. I get that he self destructs.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
It just takes one.

Speaker 9 (23:49):
You knew, right, everybody knew in the fifth inning they
went it today that you just knew while that yeah began.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
So I would ask you, Sean, go ahead and finish
your question.

Speaker 9 (24:02):
Is there do you think that impacts I mean, teammates
that have had enough of a guy like promp or
that impacts outcome and I'll hang up and listen and
hopefully the actors.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Can do it. Man, Thank you, man, thanks gg. I
can tell you this now if they have, I don't know.
If that's the case with Fromber, I agree with you.
Once he goes sideways, I get to the point where
I said, well, this is going to be a rough
one even though his stuff is so good. I if
that is the case. If you're asking me, have I
been on a team it looks at a guy who's
just a feels it almost feels selfish, and a guy

(24:37):
where you're like, okay, I've had enough of this. Yeah,
every team I've been on, there's one, whether it's college
or high school, there's always that guy. Now, some of
them aren't as good as Fromber. Some just think they are.
You know, the backup who thinks he should be playing
this guy who to the receiver who's your fourth receiver,
who thinks he's the best. I mean, yes, most every

(24:58):
team I've been on has one guy where you're like,
it wouldn't hurt your feelings if he's actually playing somewhere else. Yes,
And can it disrupt a team? It absolutely can't because
it almost feels like it's us versus him. When it's
like that, the key is veterans just okay. And I
hate to say this. And I don't know if this

(25:19):
the case was fromer because I don't know him. I
know this when he gets side to talk about him
has been the emotional part of being able to control it,
says he's been in the league. I can tell you
this that there's certain guys that you just look at
and you get to the point where the baby sitting
in the rolling out the red carpet and walking on
eggshells around a guy gets old to the point where

(25:39):
it goes one hundred and eighty degrees different. Then you
get to the point it's like, no, you're gonna adjust us.
We're not adjusting to you. So whether that's here or not, yes,
some teams can overcome it. What happens is you also
you'll get a couple other guys that fall into that crack.
I've seen veterans. A rookie'll come in who's got a
veterans kind of got a an, a an attitude that's

(26:00):
a little different. Rookie'll come in. You try to keep
the rookie away from him, because if he runs those
circles and all of a sudden there's three or four
guys now that are a little disheveled and bothered, and
before you know it, now there's eight of them. Clicks
on teams and that kind of thing where it's one guy, yeah,
and one guy can disrupt it. I don't know if
Frober's doing how it is in the clubhouse, if everybody
loves him and the rest of it. I know this

(26:22):
to answer your question, yes, rarely have I been on
a team with ninety guys or one hundred guys where
one or two of them aren't. Oh, this is about them,
not about us. Now, if that's the case with Fromber,
they know inside there what's going on, and maybe it
goes to a boiling point. But he gets in the
way of himself about as well as anybody on the

(26:43):
planet now pitching.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
I think the boiling point is pretty easy to point to.
It was hitting Sesar salves Are. I think when that happened,
he lost a lot of respect in that clubhouse. Oh,
there's no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
I think people go going in that the potential of
losing him part is like that that you know what
you're dealing with, but you get to a point where
walking on eggshells ain't it And if he doesn't like it,
then then then oh well and so oh there's no
doubt And that's Ryan convinced this was anything but frustration
is I think bs so for me. So I don't

(27:19):
know how they feel in the clubhouse about Fromber. I
think everybody who's gonna say, oh, I love him, great guy,
potentially just get I know, I know that goes. But
I also know that after you've seen it enough, there's
guys that you bring him in over a beer. Not here,
but in teams I've been on, it's eye rolling. It's like,
oh again, oh there's a shock. Yeah, And I don't
know for at that point with Fromber in their own clubhouse.

(27:40):
From my vantage point, if we can see it as amateurs,
you know, they can see it as pros.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
That usually does play out that way, And you know,
I guess maybe we'll get the stories after the season
of if indeed there was something going on.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
You should always be able to trust your ace and
crazy enough, how many people right now when he goes
out to the mound are asking men, I hope I
hope he gets through five and then always have that.
Right now, you're hoping he's having a great day, not
knowing the aberration was okay for for your ace sometimes,

(28:18):
Oh he had a bad day, you'll get back. The
aberration here is he went through a full game clean
where he's not upset about something. It's okay if you
take the upset and apply it to being competitive and
kick ass. But when it starts to hurt and throw
the balls at your catcher, all all those things, it
tells you that that and I know how competitive he

(28:41):
is according to just watching and listening to other people
talk about him. But competitive doesn't always mean emotionally tough.
There's a big difference, and you can do both. You
can you can comparmentalize, you can actually be both. You
can actually be mentally you know where emotionally you're not
as tough. But man, you're a competitor. Oh yeah. The
problem is you're a competitor when things are going great.

(29:03):
When they go bad, you take your ball and go home.
And it looks like that too often right now?

Speaker 6 (29:08):
Now, Yeah, I mean, at least for the last nine starts,
that seems like what we've seen at its too often
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Speaker 4 (31:01):
For the Shawn Salisbury Show continues, Roger wants to wag
in Good morning Roger.

Speaker 10 (31:07):
Good morning fellas. Yeah, excellent show is always that feverous
caller JT. Covid a lot of what I was gonna
discuss about. But that's my hate. Yeah, I I really
think that Roberts no longer approachable by his teammates. He
covered it now on the head with with with the
episode with UH with uh Diaz. He Diaz like, I'm

(31:28):
not gonna go out there. It's not gonna make it's
not gonna make any difference about going there and I
talk to this guy. He doesn't talk to Karrey anymore.
It doesn't look like, you know, when he had that incident,
uh with with set Fellows, are you know? I know
the spot of wanted to give him that pat on
the back and kind of like making sure like he's
gonna be okay.

Speaker 8 (31:46):
But I don't.

Speaker 10 (31:47):
I think he's beyond that. I don't think and I
don't even think Brombar wants that pat on the back.
I think Roberts totally feels like he's justified in what
he did and he didn't the game thing that he
did was wrong. I really think he has that attitude.
So my my, my question to you guys is, and
I know you're gonna probably gna respond with the same
We're gonna keep putting the bout it.

Speaker 8 (32:04):
But I don't know why it was.

Speaker 10 (32:07):
If you're gonna approach every game like it's a one day,
one one game playoff fatality, then you got to have
your best guys on the field barring injury. So I
would think it's a spot. I would think it's borderline
gross negligence to put this guy out there. I would
be smell it together with blue ball or somebody, rather
than you know, it's really if you're really it's really

(32:28):
that close, and we're really like a game turn one
game or two games a situation, I just stop. I
just think that it's it's time to cut ties with
not really cut ties, but just kind of like get
the start or something like that. I just and I
dont know, I've been harping off forward. But it's been
like ten games already, guys, I don't know if you notice,
it's been kid games. All right, all right, appreciate Roger.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
The reality of it is, no, I don't trust what
I see from him. I know what stuff he has,
and we all do. That's even the more maddening part
of it that there's a lot of guys that are
emotionally far tougher, that have a lot less stuff. There
is no doubt, like I've said, if the mental, if
the emotional part of his game ever matches the physical
skill set and the stuff he's down the mountain guy

(33:12):
went asy younger two. He's that good and he's a
premium left hander. But the reality is, I understand Roger
with what you're saying. Hell, I can't run him out
there first. Hell, i'd debate over whether I can run
him out there second. With the way he's going. The
reality of it is, you're not gonna he's gonna get
a start in the first two games of a playoff series.

(33:32):
It's just they're they're not shutting him down. They're not
going to say, hey, dude, you come out of the book.
That's just not going to happen, because what your thought
process is at this stage is if he's good, we
win because he's that good. So Roger, I'm with you,
But I'm looking at it from a managerial standpoint. They're

(33:52):
of any organization. Frommer's getting a start in the postseason.
You do know this, correct, that's a no brainer. He
is getting one of the first two starts, and may
damn well be the guy you run out there first,
even though you and I and everybody'd run out Hunter
Brown first. The other side of it is, I also
I'm with you, Roger. I almost feel like some of
the times when things goes on that Fromer doesn't think

(34:14):
that he's in the wrong at any time that it's like, oh,
if they'd feel the disc ground ball, if they put
a call to strike, if Salazar would have told me
to get step back off the mount and relax. If
I would I do as good as his stuff is.
There's a part of me that wonders, does he think
that is? Does he think that this is just the

(34:35):
part for the course where every the Hayschwis's approach every game,
Like I said, I admire how good he is. But
my questions, I couldn't pay him thirty million for five
or six years. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it.
I'd approached the same way if a quarterback was really
physically good but either didn't study football like you or
emotionally was a wreck every time he threw a pick.

(34:58):
I can't. I can't live with that as a team.
I can't. I can't run him out there all day.
So from are so good, and that's the more maddening thing.
He's that kind of average stuff and once he's not
a dow joner with his stuff, he's a dow joner.
Emotionally is the one thing that gets in the way him,
and it's a big thing when you're a front line pitcher.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
He is one in six in the month of months
of August and September, five point six four ERA in
August seven point eighty eight, and he's zero and three.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
He's lost his last three starts in September.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
So what are you asking, Well, I mean, I hear
it from teams and everybody all the time down the stretch.
Your best players have to do what they have to
perform their best. He's chose the wrong time not to
be right. So there you go.

Speaker 6 (35:45):
No, and that's I mean, that's a huge reason again
why he cannot be counted on. And I can't remember
an astro that has had the fan base so much
at a certain point saying, you know what one of
the perks of this season being or is that he
won't be here anymore, because usually it's.

Speaker 7 (36:02):
Been the other way around. Pay the man, but now
it's no, let somebody else pay him.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
We're done. Almost a bummer because you're out saying anybody,
we should be approaching him here the same way that
Detroit would approach Schooble, that somebody else would approach their
they're premium guy, Like, Wow, we can't let this guy go.
There's no way we can let him walk because he's

(36:27):
so lights out and he's and he's but I'm not
sure that they think that. I don't even know if
you're going to negotiate with the guy, are you? No,
not even are you even going to negotiate. You'll give
him the qualifying offer and say hey, good luck, and
he won't give him another one. Yeah, yeah, I don't.
And it's sad because this guy should be We should
be going in the postseason thinking our front two starters

(36:50):
just give him four runs and it's over. And unfortunately
that's not the way you're feeling. Not even close.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
I mean, it's almost to the point where you're saying,
and Jason Alexander needs to be the guy in game two,
is what you're thinking saying at this point, that's what
I would say.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Absolutely, he's pitching better and should be your game too,
but he's not gonna be. And you and I both
know it. Well, then either going to be from er
first or from or second, slice it any way you
want to. Well, I'm going Hunter Brown number one because
I need that first win and then we can, you know,
take from there. And I don't care if his feelings
are hurt. No, meaning that that's where that's what Roger,
that's where you got to decide right now, you're past

(37:28):
the feelings point of it's time for you to catch
up to us, not us to wait on you.

Speaker 6 (37:32):
The postseason is in the balance, and a huge reason
is because of how poorly he's pitched.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
I don't really give a rats ass about anybody's personality
right now. I don't the person I wanted you to
go out and pitch your ass off. That doesn't work. Fine,
But if you get sideways, you got to. You've got
a whole bunch of other players that are counting on.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
You well, and I mean it has gotten sideways, and
that's why you find yourself in the position you're in.
Say sorry, Jason, you guys want to get involved. Someone
three two one two five seven ninety against someone three
two one two five seven to ninety seven o'clock hour
is here on a Monday Sports Talk seven to ninety
You know I got to.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
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(38:27):
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(38:48):
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Speaker 4 (39:38):
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Speaker 2 (40:03):
Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
To usc trous longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
Dan Matthews US. This is the Sean Salisbury Show. They
do take the series. But here's the problem.

Speaker 6 (40:20):
The Mariners continue to win, and now Seattle is in
front of the Astros in the Al West by a
game as Seattle winning their ninth straight yesterday. But they're
gonna get back out on the road, so hopefully that's
good for the Stros. And Sunday, our Monday Night football,
it's gonna be the Texans and Bucks tonight over at

(40:40):
NRG Stadium, the home opener for the Texans.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
So we'll talk about them a little bit later on.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
Let's keep it going with the Astros conversation on the
phone line seven one three two one two five seven
ninety is the number, Saysar wants to get in.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Say sorrow, good morning, Oh.

Speaker 6 (40:55):
My god, I gotta do it, good man?

Speaker 7 (40:56):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (40:59):
My way to work?

Speaker 12 (41:00):
So here's my thing, sean custom for y'all. If Bromberg
is doing your little handsticks, you know he's not pitching
as well. He's getting into it with both of his
dads already. At what point do you say this is enough?

(41:21):
As joeas motto, and say you go into the playoffs.
I know Song is adamant about pitching him, but at
what point do you say this is enough? And does
it cost you your job if you don't do anything
about it, and if you don't make the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Hey, though, before you go anywhere. I'm not adamant about it.
I'm I'm I wouldn't. He's not my best pitcher. He
is when of stuff's good, but I can't The ifs
don't matter. I just said no, matter what we want,
They're they're gonna pitch him. They're not just saying, you
know what, this is our guy, he's your star. I
don't know when the last time they've taken an Ace

(41:57):
out of any playoff team and said the suppose it.
He's the guy you run out there first. For the
last three seasons, maybe four, even when Verlander was here. Now,
I'm with you his performance, the way he gets sideways,
the adversity hits, and I don't he just gets a
little sideways and sometimes a lot sideways. So I'm not
adamant about it. I wouldn't. I'd start Hunter Brown first.

(42:18):
But under the situation with these injuries, and you know
the mcculors is not you know, you can't trust him
as a starter right now, Jason Alexander. You can, but
the up and down part of it gives you concern.
And now with Garcia hurt, So what he's he's gonna
pitch you? And I both thought, i'll tell you when.
I'll tell you when you're gonna be move on from him.
When the when they're when you make the final out
of your whenever your season ends, that's when. But I'm

(42:40):
with you. It's frustrating. But you and I both know
you think a spot. You think they're going to pass
up pitching him with his stuff. If I if I
bring that up to Steve Sparks today, they're gonna say
if I say, Steve, will they ever keep him out
of the rotation? Steve might laugh and say that's that's
not even in question. So I'm with you, but they're
just not going to do it. You and I both
know that.

Speaker 12 (43:02):
He has great stuff when he's on, but at the
end of the day, he hasn't been able to keep
his hands straight. Nobody's been able to put him in check.
And if it cost me my job, then I mean
I might as well just go on with it and say.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
No, I'm not pitch.

Speaker 12 (43:18):
I didn't make it far in the playoffs last year.

Speaker 13 (43:21):
I got out by the.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Tigers, and if it's the same thing this year.

Speaker 9 (43:24):
We've both got to go.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
We'll see if that happens. I get you, I get
the disdain for it, but I just don't see how
an organization is going to sit him down.

Speaker 7 (43:34):
I just don't know he and you can't right now.
I mean you don't have arragetty.

Speaker 9 (43:38):
You.

Speaker 6 (43:38):
I mean you talked about mccullors, even though you haven't
been using him in the starting rotation, you just you can't.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Use him in the starting rotation.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
I mean, you've got to be able to have Fromber
go out there and you just hope that he can
be that guy. But the only problem is hope. No,
that's exactly it, and that's what sucks. And hope is
not a strategy. And that's what you've been running into
is you're hoping every single time he gets the ball, hey,
this is the start when he turns it around.

Speaker 7 (44:02):
And it looked like in one of his starts at
the end of August that was going to be the case.

Speaker 6 (44:07):
When he went seven innings against the Rockies, and I
know that some people are going to say, well, come on,
it's the Rockies, but still, I mean, he looked like
the guy that we've gone accustomed to knowing over the
last few years. But the problem is ever since then,
five innings, six earned runs run, seven innings, three earned
runs against the Rangers, and then yesterday where he gives
up five earned runs and three of those were because

(44:29):
he walked the bases loaded in.

Speaker 7 (44:30):
His final innings.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
So I'd like to know who else whose fault is
that that's him somebody else. An accountability thing that's got
to happen. But as much as people are saying to
skip him for dead, don't, I just don't see how
he can't they. I don't see how they're gonna do it.

Speaker 6 (44:45):
No, I mean you just you physically cannot do it
because you don't have the guys to be able to
do it. Right now, you mean, one of the spots
you're gonna have to go bullpen game.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
You're holding out hope that Fromber is going to give
you seven and two thirds of Fromber pitching as opposed
to the guy who gets sideways with one bad inning.

Speaker 6 (45:01):
And the way that that inning got started to was
I was listening to it at the time, and it
was where he was about to get a pitch time
or violation, and Diaz jumped from behind the plate as
to because if he'd stepped off, that's a that's a violation.
All of that, nobody on base, all all of those things,
and then again for pitch walk, then another walk, and

(45:23):
then another walk, and you're.

Speaker 7 (45:25):
Just like, come on, man, like that's what set you.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Off, Overly concerned about a pitch clock possible violation that
you're that you get sideways and can't throw a strike.
I guess with him, we are.

Speaker 6 (45:37):
But like, honestly, that's why the start before you where
it was, Oh, I was chilled. Today, I'm done hearing
all of that.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
I'm done. Just pitch. Should you be just just called
and dominate everything? Pitch, just pitch. Every time there's there's
always something when we're talking about after his start, there's
always something. It's it's happening to me. But like I said,
when he's on, boy he's fun to watch, but it's
a whole thing, not a no thing. And most of

(46:05):
your aces, you know that most of the time they're
going to show up, even if they get sideways for
an inning. If he doesn't learn that over his course
of his career, he'll come up short from where he
what he wants to achieve as well.

Speaker 7 (46:15):
Let's squeeze in Jason real quick for you at the
steak out.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Jason, good morning, Well.

Speaker 8 (46:21):
Good morn fellas.

Speaker 11 (46:24):
This weekend was kind of been a resting for me. Dan,
you probably know why. I'm glad y'all got the serious womb.
But at the same time, I'm glad we didn't get
slipped and when it comes to Bromber, some good pictures, man,
some good pictures bounced back after that inning, and he

(46:44):
used to be that guy. I remember last year when
he was lights out, had all those quality starts. But
at some point, you know, you just have a mental
breakdown with your mechanics and with with you know, with
everything that's going on. I don't know if he's completely
checked out, which I hope he hasn't. But like if

(47:06):
you get put in a situation like you said, where
you know, Valdez has to be the guy to win
you game number two, if it comes down to that,
I agree with you hundred percent, Sean. I really don't
know what's gonna happen in that situation. But the good
thing is we we know what he can do, and

(47:28):
you can be positive about certain things. But like like
Dan said, at some point, you can't have these, you know,
games where you give up seven or eight runs and
you just you just got to figure it out. But anyway,
that's the timer.

Speaker 6 (47:44):
I gotta go have a good day, fellas, all right,
I see you, Jason, Well, I mean, it's just it's
it's getting to this point where it's this is who
he is, and I heard a guy calling yesterday with
Matt on the tenth Inning show saying, there's no such
thing as good or bad Fromber.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
It's just Fromber. That's that's, that's who he is.

Speaker 6 (48:03):
And I mean it's if you get the if you
get the good side of it, great, but for the
most part you have to count on seeing like what
you saw on the fifth inning yesterday, and that's what
the Astros are.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Temmy Real quickly put it to you this way that
if you got to say when he's good Fromber, he's
not your ace. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (48:21):
Well he's proven that time and time again.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
You know, sometimes you gonna have bad addings, but we don't.
We should, we don't need to call. I mean, if
he has to or we all have to qualify but win,
or if he's good Fromber. Yeah, well we could say
that about a lot of people. Then you know, he's
not your ace. And that's I think it's pretty said
ace stuff. But there's a lot of really good potential

(48:45):
players and sports they never reached it because they got
in their own way and they're watching games from their
homes now while they're still at the age where they
could be playing.

Speaker 6 (48:54):
So you do that math and We've seen that quite
a bit, and all the Astros might be h one
of those teams sitting at home if things don't get better.
Someone three two on two five seven ninety is the
number two get in certain types of behavior that I
feel like need to be called out, and we'll discuss
it here. It is the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talks
seven ninety, the hottest takes in.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
Houston sports so emotionally tied to the team.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
The Sean Salisbury Show continues, Hi, that's on Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 4 (49:33):
The Salisbury takeout, Salisbury's takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (49:40):
And it's a Monday here on at said Sean Salisbury Show.
As the Astros lose eight three yesterday to the Braves
in Atlanta, they do take two out of three. Next
up crucial series with the Rangers at dyke In Park
starting tonight. Stros are also now the second place Astros
in the Aos.

Speaker 7 (49:58):
Mariners went again.

Speaker 6 (49:59):
They nine straight, so now the strow is a game
back of them and the Texans and Bucks Monday night
football over at NRG Stadium. Speaking of football, Sean sports
Bar is this time of the year, very popular for
the most part all around the year, but football season
seemingly probably if you ask anybody that owns those places,
it's probably when they get their highest traffic inside the building.

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They get the most volume of sales that time of
the year. Well, whenever you go watch a game at
a sports bar, I mean just depends on where you go.
You might be where every single bar stool, every single
booth and table is taken up, so you know, you
just kind of get in where you fit in, wherever
it is. But it's certain behaviors at sports bars that

(50:45):
honestly just annoyed me to nobody's business. And I threw
out this sweet yesterday. It did happen to me yesterday,
not directly to me, but at least within earshot. And
that is the loud clapping whenever something happens, and it
wasn't even a game, which you know because whenever you
hear it, it's either a sports bar or a sports book,

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like if you're out in Vegas or if you're out
in Louisiana and places that have sports wagering where you
know you can watch a game from there and it
will be one of the games on the screens and
a lot of the places where whatever the marquee game is,
that's the one that they'll have playing over the loud speakers.
Like yesterday they had the Cowboys and Giants game playing,

(51:27):
which was a crazy game.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
But it's unbelievable. It was awesome. You'll ever see Russ
Wilson play like that again. But real quick, I was
getting text messages Tripoli and I and Bridaly and they said, man,
I said, you know what, this is a game for
Russ has played his ass off and he is not
the best I've seen him place since he left Seattle,
and even his last year or two in Seattle, he
played out of his mind. But I said, an interception

(51:51):
over time is coming and they'ren house at the ball
and they go down and kick it if they just
I mean, I said, you can ask it if I
said it's coming, and I'll be damned if he just
doesn't throw it up where nobody is and they get
picked and the Cowboys roll right down the field and
get the end zone.

Speaker 7 (52:05):
When that pick happened, I was like, what were you doing?

Speaker 2 (52:11):
What are you doing? Well, he was doing what Russ
has done recently the last three or four years, but
I give him credit man to throw the deep ball
to get some neighbors to take the to tie it up.
Was that the tie it Yeah? It was phenomenal, phenomenal
football throw. I mean he was all over the place
throwing the ball. I mean he couldn't miss until the end.

(52:31):
And unfortunately he played. He played a great game, but.

Speaker 6 (52:34):
It just didn't end it the win, yes, And then
you get it to like thirty yards out and Aubrey,
who had made a sixty seven yarder and I think
that would have been good from like seventy plus, that.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Thing went halfway up and hit the back netting. As
much as I love our kicker here the best long distance.
And then the guy's got icens that Aubrey's sick how
good he is, and like guy's a friggin freak show.

Speaker 6 (52:56):
And it kind of like started to knuckle a little
bit too, Like you saw a go is right, and
you're like, uh oh.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Just his approach is like a like a like a
guy who's got one of those great golf swings so
sweet that even look like he's trying, he just kind
of swings through it casually and knows that his little
right to left draw is gonna get inside the upright.
So it's just it's pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Man.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
He's the Scottie Scheffler. He can hit it wherever he
wants to hit it.

Speaker 6 (53:19):
Well, you always know that you have a good one,
or you don't know if you have a good one
until you really need to find out. And they found
out yesterday they got a pretty good one. But watching
the games, and you know, most places have the NFL
package where you can you know, any out of market
game and the loud clapping was a Saints fan and

(53:40):
it's like, brother, you guys are gonna win like two
or three games this year.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Yeah, prob lucky.

Speaker 6 (53:45):
You're probably gonna be the team drafting one to one
this year. But it's any remote good play and you
heard it's like, okay, buddy, like stop.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
But don't you hear in a sports bar all time
drives I'm with you or the yeller. Yeah, I mean
I'm talking about any four yard game. Yeah yeah, it's like, dude,
I get the excitement. Let's let's let's time the excitement
for what it matters. But on a normal tackle in
the open field where a guy's supposed attack buy for
a three yard game. But I mean, dude, they get going.

(54:19):
It's like, I guess you know what you're gonna get
when you go to a sports bar only to be
replaced by the over talker. Is you're sitting and like
I said, sometimes you have to get in where you
fit in. And you see somebody sitting at the bar,
can't you just kind of like tell from someone you're like,
that guy's gonna talk a lot, isn't he. I don't
know if I want to sit there like that.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
And then and then it's you know, on top of
it all, which this doesn't happen often, but it does sometimes.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Hey, hey, you're you're that radio guy, aren't you?

Speaker 11 (54:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (54:48):
Hey, can I ask you? That's always my favorite. Hey
can I get your opinion on this? And I always go,
what's what's yours? No, what's what's your I'm not trying
to be rude, but I'm just like you are, well, no,
because it crazy, So because it drives me crazy because
I know exactly what the what the motive is there.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
The motive is, Hey, you know I asked Ian Matthews
this and then you know, he said this, So I
said this, It's like, just give me your opinion. Well,
I got a great idea. Guy asked who you are?
Say no, I look like him, and just leave it
at that, and you don't have to deal with it
now I'm I'm an engineer. Then then the conversation ends. No, man,
I've had heard that before. I don't even really like sports. Yeah,

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and boom and get back to your conversation with whoever
you're with. But you'll get that person who that's if
you don't want to talk. Sometimes there's some really engaging
good people around and it's awesome, but it's the one
who loud talks. It's breaking down every It's like the well,
it's similar to the person who talks in a movie.

Speaker 8 (55:42):
Right.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
I understand a bar is different than than a movie,
but it's like telling you all the scenes and like
breaking down every game is really giving you play by
play while we're all watching the same game. That's the
annoying part.

Speaker 6 (55:53):
It's it's so you know, most TVs you have to
stare up. If I'm staring up, that is kind of
like being on an airplane and I've got air pods,
I've got a book, magazine something like that. Usually that
is the verbal or the the visual cueue of I
don't want to be bothered, Like I'm I'm watching the game.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
That's why I'm here. Sorry, I assume that you're there
watching the game. They just have a fun, good time
and yell and scream and listen in bars, dude, you're
hear it all the time.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Though.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Yeah, if you're going to a bar, you just expect
you're gonna get the guys who have, you know, their
opinion of a game, and they're gonna end loud enough
seal here and they're gonna cheer.

Speaker 14 (56:31):
Man.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
That's that's why stay home if you don't want to
have all that comes home and watch it on the TV.
That's for the most.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
Part, you don't want to engage or even like a
lot of times I'll go to places that I know
won't be crowded, so then you know, you know that
there's gonna be a handful of barstools in between and
you can just kind of post up, chill. Nobody bothers
you any of those things. And look, I don't want
to to you know, come across as I'm not approachable.
I am approachable. But at the same time though too,
it's just like, dude, like just.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Why go to a bar to watch a game. If
you're not going to be if you're not going to
if you're going to care about people cheering, why why
go If you want to just be alone and do it,
why are you going there to do it? Why go
to a buddy's house.

Speaker 6 (57:13):
Well, it could just go to a buddy's house, but
for this one, it was convenience and I hadn't make sense.
So went up there and I was gonna get me
some good victuals, which I did.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Before you know it, you're involved in a heavy football conversation.
I don't remember what happened in the game because you're talking.

Speaker 6 (57:28):
Which luckily yesterday did not run into that because the
place I was at didn't have a ton of people
sitting at the bar. So I was like, oh, thank god,
So I got I got a few minutes of silence,
no dogs jumping on me anything like that, and was
able to watch some good football.

Speaker 7 (57:44):
Yeah they watched the Astros yesterday.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Let that game get away from them. Yeah they did.
And hopefully the Texans will take care of their business tonight,
which I know we're going to discuss, but yeah, it was.
I mean those bar, I know what you're saying, man,
the frustration of I'm trying to watch, but you do
know going in that there's that chance that you're gotta
get The guy that stands next to you likes to
cheer for every single play that's made and make sure

(58:09):
everybody hears it. I did, and he's got a Saints
jersey on. You said, or did he not have a
jersey on? I think he did. I think he did.

Speaker 6 (58:17):
But one of the best parts of it, though, was
a husband and wife duo that came in and their
chiefs fans, the husband wearing the Mahomes jersey and the
wife wearing the Kelsey jersey.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
So I was like, you know what, couples goals. That's nice.

Speaker 8 (58:30):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Unfortunately, they left owing too.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
I was gonna say, if it was going the way
that they were hoping for, then at least they enjoyed
each other's company there and it wasn't so much the game.
But no, it's look, I'm a I'm all for having
fun all of those things, but the same to you like.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
When people recognize you do I? Yeah. Do you like
when you go into a bar and somebody comes up
and says, there's Dan Matthews. I mean, yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 7 (59:00):
I mean, you know, at least I hopefully that that
speaks to the work that we're doing.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
I mean, you know.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
But at the same time, though, too, what what like
those same situations is when then I start getting station
complaints and I'm like, hey, brother, I ain't the program director, Damn.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Like I just I just work here. Famous. I could
use fame and other sing other ways hopeful hopefully fame
or fortune? What would you rather have? Fortune? Is there
any doubt? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (59:31):
For for fortune, no doubt about it, because I mean,
if I had enough fortune, I would disappear to Kawai
Hanlai and you'd never see me again.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
You'd be gone. Yes. Would your game? Would your golf
game be any good?

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Golf game would be great. Money was no object? How
good would you would it be? Ripe? Dude?

Speaker 6 (59:49):
It I I would have feel around the greens that
I've never had, and I would have every single part
of my game tightened up.

Speaker 7 (59:57):
Yes, because I play every day. I practice every day.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Yeah. Is it weird I've asked you this cat, but
not formally. Is it weird that, like, I'm so obsessed
with building this golf apparel and leisure business that I
like all day long when I leave here, that I'm
obsessed with it. That to the point where I want
to shadow a guy that I know has been in
the industry forever and built incredible golf and leisure clothing,

(01:00:20):
and I like want to I want to be I
like want Travis Matthew to hire me so when I'm
off the air at Tenant that I can go learn
that because I've it's been about thirty years. I've been
intrigued in about the last five, even more than the
last two. It's like, I can I know on the
golf course and leisure what people look good and want.

(01:00:41):
I know it sounds crazy. It's like somebody late decides
to get into the design business something. I swear to you.
I'm obsessed with it every day and I'm going to
build this if it's the last thing I do. Yeah,
no way, tell me when I'm one hundred and two,
it'll be done by it. Brother, we stopped dreaming, we die, man.
I just it's like every day I'm like, Okay, that clothing,
what would look good male and female on the clothes,
and there's great shorts and the material and what a

(01:01:02):
guy's comfortable and the moisture waking dude, I'm losing my
mind with this, so cheer away at the bar for sport.

Speaker 7 (01:01:09):
Yeah, look, it's it's fine. It's just it's it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
And Dan Matthews, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
Just and and to your point, I mean, like Saturday night,
me and good buddy of mine went out for a
little bit for the LSU game, and I was watching
the LSU game, fun time, and then we went back
to his spot to stay up until about two am
to watch Canelo and and Bud Crawford.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Saturday and Sundays are supposed to be time to rest,
to do if you don't rest at all, I mean,
I'm with you. Mondays, you wake up, be like man,
no rest. I needed a week in a rest and
let alone. Football will wear you out. Sports will wear
you out because you're in tuned in all day from
Friday to Sunday night. You are tuned in.

Speaker 6 (01:01:52):
That's why that that that t shot coming up here
in about a couple of hours. That's it's gonna be key.

Speaker 9 (01:01:57):
There you go.

Speaker 7 (01:01:57):
All right, let's speaking of the Texans.

Speaker 6 (01:01:59):
Let's get into them a little because they've got a
huge opportunity tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:02:02):
But shorthanded.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
They are.

Speaker 6 (01:02:04):
We'll discuss it is the Sean Salisbury Show here on
a Monday Sports Talk seven to ninety a little bit
later on. So you've got a Monday night doubleheader tonight
which the Texans and Buck's gonna get going at six.

Speaker 9 (01:02:19):
I like that.

Speaker 6 (01:02:20):
I like that, So that game will be over with
what about nine, so be able to go to sleep.
I am gonna go for the pre game and probably
until the half, I think, is what I'm gonna do tonight.
But the Texan's going to be a little shorthanded as
center Jake Andrews and receivers Christian Kirk and Braxton Barrios
have been ruled out. Not so much Barrios in terms

(01:02:42):
of what we're gonna talk about here, but Christian Kirk
is a guy that was brought here. I think with
knowing full well, you weren't gonna have Tank Dell for
much of the season, if not the entire season. As
a matter of fact, we're not gonna see Tank Dell
this year. Just go ahead and throw that out there now.
But for Chris Kirk and trying to see what this
offense will look like, it hurts because yes, you did

(01:03:06):
add you know, Jayden Higgins, Jalen Knowle, and you know
going out and getting Kirk this offseason.

Speaker 7 (01:03:13):
Haven't been able to see him just yet.

Speaker 6 (01:03:15):
But I mean this is a receiver group that last
week was not able to factor very much, including the
guy that you would want to factor the most in
Nico Collins. But I mean, Sean, is that kind of
a why you have to continue to give Nick kayley
and incomplete on what this offense can be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Well, continue, We've had one game, so that if this
was six weeks in, we say we'll continue again, he's
had one game. If that's the case, then man, we
better back then. Then then Ben Johnson's head coaching careers
got because the only they seem to only play about
a half when when they're doing it, they look good
from it, and all of a sudden they get they
get curb stomped. So yeah, it you know, one game

(01:03:55):
is not enough to see. I know this. They got
to be more aggressive pushing the ball down the field.
And I know that when you run into a game
that where you are limited offensively and they are limited
offensive line right now, when you say limited moving people
around and finding who they are, you're unlimited at the
running back position because Joe Mixon's not in the lineup,
you are. I mean when I say unlimited, you're limited?

(01:04:16):
Should I say and you are limited at the wide
receiver position because of injuries and the depth of it.
But make no mistake, if you're going down, you got
to put an ore in your hand, and Nico Collins
is part of that, or you got to you got
to force feed him by formation or whatever. That doesn't
mean force it to him if there's three guys covered him.
It does mean, though, that you've got to dial up

(01:04:39):
whatever you can to get him the ball and create
situations where the ball touches his hands. If not twenty yards,
fifteen yards, twelve yards down the field on curls and
digs and comebacks and bang posts, then it's I don't
care if it's a bubble screen or playing sideways. Get
him the football and let him get rolling. You just
have to. Now the other thing is is that who's
going to be the other guy, Because once again we

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saw last week, good defensive coordinators can can can do
everything I can to say that the big fella's not
beat me. Somebody else can, but he's not. So we'll
go find out a little bit and Nick Cayley, unfortunately,
you don't get an apprenticeship. That's already happened with the Rams.
This is you're you're the offensive coordinator, got to hit
the ground, run. You got a hell of a quarterback.
The question is do you believe enough and then where

(01:05:23):
you can push the ball back drop, set back up
five yards and take a hitch and throw the ball
and hold it long enough to let things happen, or
are you going to have to manipulate protections and keep
max protection and protect your guys so they're doing it right.
I don't know how he feels, because we're not on
the practice field. I know this, if the offensive line
doesn't improve, it won't matter how good CJ. Stroud and
Eco Collins are, it just won't so. And I also

(01:05:45):
know that in this sometimes you say, well, we don't
have a lot of bodies, we got to play it safe.
I think the opposite. I've got a hell of a receiver,
I've got a hell of a quarterback. I've got to
now get into my design phase. As an offensive coordinator
of that, that's your job. Your job is to put
your team in situations that allow success and mismatches against
the defense. Sometimes you're gonna guess wrong, but you've got

(01:06:06):
to at least give your team a chance. And this
team's not good enough to play it close to this
they are defensively, they're just not good enough right now. Now.
They may have to win a lot of twenty one
to seventeen games right now because they're just not explosive.
Maybe that changes tonight against Tampa, but we are one
game in, so let's we all need a slower role
on how good or bad they're. We already know the

(01:06:26):
defense will be good. It's how deep are they can
the guys that aren't playing, the guys that are playing
in place, the guys aren't elevate. Because if you're the
number two receiver, you've got to be thinking to yourself.
And Dalton Schultz included, I've got to take the game
over just in case they do everything they can not
to let Nico kin. So who's that guy going to be?
And if you're one of those guys that says it
ain't gonna be me, I'll let somebody else do it.

(01:06:46):
That can't be it. It's got to be it's gonna
be me. Regardless of what a guy like Nico knsas
the defense will get stops tonight against Baker Mayfield. The
question is can your offense sustain drives against the Tampa
Bay defense. It'll run around and Todd Bowles a good
football coach, especially on the defensive side of it. Can
they do enough? And one thing I know about Baker Mayfield,

(01:07:07):
don't he is under pressure. They're gonna this year they're
gonna try to pressure him, I would think, because he's
really good against zone in play action. He's had his
struggles versus man pressure, and so that's how you're going
to try to get to him this year. We'll see
what they've got dialed up. I'm not sure fourteen or
seventeen points will be enough. So we got to see

(01:07:28):
another level offense tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:07:30):
One of the questions with the Texans we hope we
get an answer to, and that answer hopefully will come tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:07:35):
We'll discuss that here.

Speaker 6 (01:07:36):
Don't forget Steve Sparks gonna join us in about fifteen
minutes for his weekly visit as we continue here Sean
Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continues The Aggie's Against the Run
and Love I would have never expected an eighty point.
I would have taken the under all day.

Speaker 6 (01:07:59):
And especially to two defensive coaches, no question, Elko and
Mark Freeman.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
So I would have I would have taken, you know,
close game, but I would have taken and I did
take Notre Dame and the under. I didn't bet it,
but that's what I would have taken. But incredible performance
by the Aggies. And while it wasn't their best defense,
they sure did enough to clutch to win a game.
And it's a it's a hell of a start. That's
a hard place to win a game. Man.

Speaker 6 (01:08:24):
We'll get back in the detections in a second, but
since we you know, talking a little college football right there,
what the hell is wrong with arch Manning? Like seriously,
what what Sean? It's gotten so bad he's getting booed now.
I mean I think that it's it's all of the
anticipation that everybody had for him to finally have this
be his show. Like I watched this in you know

(01:08:48):
and watching them last week, and there was the the
video footage of him kind of wincing a little bit
after a throw. I mean, you're you're, you know, really
big on quarterback mechanics because you coach it. I mean,
is there a possibility he's hurt and it's just not
being talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Yeah, I'm trying not to speculate on it. If he
was hurt, why would they play him hurt enough to
where it's really affecting his game? Why would you play
him unless you're nervous that the backup goes in and
plays well and it creates a problem. Why would you
play a guy, like I said, hurt. I get it.
People play hurt all the time. Injured that's affecting your performance,

(01:09:26):
then you got a problem with I don't know. I
can tell you what he has got, not minor major
mechanical flaws in his game, which I'm shocked to say.
You know, you think the first game was it just arrest,
But I'm talking about his footwork plus his arm angle.
It's going to lead to a lot of a lot
of incompletions and a lot of inaccuracy and clean pockets.
He went eleven for what twenty four against UTEP No

(01:09:49):
disrespect because their head coach is a buddy of mine
and he's done a hell of a job moving up
the ladder into coaching ladder and he's young and excitable,
and they'll they're going to be better as well witnessed.
But I can tell that as much as I it
pains me to say, because you you know, because I
love the family. But I got to remove you got
to remove yourself from that as a football player. If

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he didn't have Manning on the back of his jersey
right now, you'd say there's got to be a better option.
Three games in, that's what you'd think, because we thought
these last two games would be get right games. Now, well, Shawn,
he threw four touchdowns in five minutes. Of course he
did the previous opponent, but he still was not sharp
most of that game, throwing the football as sharp as

(01:10:31):
you'd expect him to be. I couldn't root harder for him.
But if you're just calling it like you see it,
mechanical flaws are leading to in completions that are leading
to some there's a confidence issue. There's a I don't
know what it is. I can just tell you this
from my eye, and my eye knows a little bit
about the position. Mechanically, that ain't what you're trying to
get accomplished. I'm just telling you it's not And it's
been three straight games of arm angle. Now, if you're

(01:10:55):
telling me his shoulders hurt and the arm angle that's
not a normal arm angle, then then and that he's
usually a a higher release in a clean pocket, then
we've got to we've getting his feet under him. Then
you do have to look at it. Well, then what
is it is? It is he's swimming because of the
expectations and there's complications to I mean, it's trying to

(01:11:15):
keep up with an office. But he's been in it
three years. That should not be the issue. So I'm
assuming it's not. He's a smart guy. So is it
confidence and the expectations hard to live up to? Manning's
been facing those forever. I don't know, And you know,
it's as much as I'd love the family. I don't
know because I've never met or talked to him. But
I can just tell you this if I if it
said Stevenson on the back of his jersey and I've watched,

(01:11:36):
I would have a major issue with the mechanics and
how it's going to lead to sustained success. He's gonna have. Hell,
you saw some of the throws he made, the great
hole shot in Game one against olo state. But then
you saw the easy stuff that he's yanking into the ground,
So there's there are mechanical flaws. If we find out
that's injury, it looks like he's hurt where he stole,

(01:11:58):
the where he's thrown from. But and that will lend
itself to there's very few guys that can do what
Stafford does, be a three quarter half and be as
accurate as he is on a regular basis. But his
feet are usually in a pretty good position. Yet he's
got such a strong arm that he can beat you
a lot of other ways just throwing it off schedule.
Underrated in that cat in that category, trust me. But

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arch Manning, if you watch, there's no way you can
go into that tape room and watch and say, man,
we are so mechanically sound at the quarterback position. It's
got to get better. They're going to lose four games
this year, five game. I'm telling you right now, they
are not one of the best teams in the country.

Speaker 15 (01:12:34):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Defensively, they're nasty and they're physical, and offensively they've got
some players, But right now, watching them for the first
three weeks of the season, there's no way you can
look at me now they're gonna be ranked up. There's
no way you can look at me and say the
way they're playing is one of the ten best teams
in the country. They're not. Right now, they'd get curb
stopped by some defense. To offensive they've got, They've got

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a ways to go, and it's going to start with him,
because right now their offense looks like Sarks never called plays.
At least you know the guy. I think he's one
of the best play callers in the world. There's a disconnect,
whether it's mechanically, which there is, or you know, the
confidence or believe it, but whatever it is that there's
a discuse. These last two games are supposed to be
the oh mechanics, he's getting right everything when the real

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schedule kicks back in after you know, these two and
then they got I think they got one more before
it gets a little more difficult. But there's some things
that need fix because right now this team is not
a ten or eleven win team. Talent, yes, production, absolutely not.
We'll leave that conversation here.

Speaker 6 (01:13:34):
And pick the Astros back up because it's that time
of the week, the weekly visit with our good buddy
Steve Sparks.

Speaker 7 (01:13:40):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Sewn Salisbury, USC troups longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Dan Matthews. This is the Sean Salisbury Show, Astros broadcaster
every Monday, eight o'clock. Steve Sparks joins us. Great to
have you on. Steve. Always appreciate you, my man. Judging
from the visit to Atlanta and just watching those games,

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tell take me out of there at the plate. I'm
talking about, not pitching. Take me something out of there
that says this team can sustain really good play the
last twelve games to win the division.

Speaker 9 (01:14:49):
Just from the hitter stand, Okay, bottom half of the
lineup starting to produce six, seven, eight hitters at one
point the first two games of that series. I think
we're fifteen for twenty one at one point. So getting
production in the bottom half, you know, guys like jord
Honor are going to produce.

Speaker 16 (01:15:07):
At the top, you feel good about where the Astro's
balance goes. As far as being competitive hitters one through nine.

Speaker 9 (01:15:15):
This is as bout as good as they've had it
for quite a while now with more guys getting healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
And Steve, you trust the top of the order is
going to pull their weight with the stars, correct, Yes,
I do.

Speaker 9 (01:15:27):
I mean you have to expect that, and that's what
you count on with Payna Altuvee and jord On and
Christian Walker. Those guys get paid to go out there
and produce. And I think where the Astros are right now,
I mean you can't ask for much more than this.

Speaker 16 (01:15:41):
They can control a lot of where they go from
here on out. They've got a great opportunity playing guys
in their division that they're fighting to get into.

Speaker 9 (01:15:50):
The playoffs with. And those guys, those guys at the
top sewn need to need to step up and lead
this team.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Steve, have you ever been on a team or all
your years are covering it and broadcasting it, And I'm
sure you have, But if you've been on a team
to where your stars at this time of the year
went south and didn't produce, yet you were still able
to go on and win, I mean win a bunch
of games or have you want where a team where
their stars didn't produce and they were able to get

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deep into a playoff run. That type offensively I'm talking about.

Speaker 16 (01:16:22):
Yeah, I can say you can say that about even
the playoffs with the Astros being in the playoffs so
many years now and we've been spoiled. But there's been
times when guys gotten really cold.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (01:16:33):
And you don't talk about it because the Astros have
been so successful, but there's been two or three guys
that have gotten cold at the same time and they
still been able to overcome it. That's what a team's
all about, you know.

Speaker 16 (01:16:43):
And I think the Astros have been built mostly on
pitching throughout the years, but they've had some great lineups
and they've had a lot of clutch players. And sometimes
it's how two Bay, sometimes it's pregnant, sometimes it's Tucker,
it's this guy that guy, but a couple of those
guys do need to step up, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Is there somebody at the top of the order? Steve?
I know how talented and you do too. I mean
you've talked about it, and you know the long season
part of it. Is there somebody at the top. You
know on the first five that you are concerned about.
I mean, al Tuovey seems obvious if he's banged up
or if he's not. Is there something or somewhat at
the top of the order that has that you are
concerned about.

Speaker 9 (01:17:21):
You know, I'm not concerned because I really trust him.
But it's Jeremy. I mean, Pania has gone on a
little bit of a hole, but I trust him implicitly
just because I think he's extremely talented and hard working,
and I think I think he'll play well, you know,
whether the results say it or not. I think he'll
give himself a great chance to be the best version

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of himself because the way he prepares.

Speaker 8 (01:17:45):
I love it.

Speaker 9 (01:17:45):
You watch him in between innings, you watch him in pregame, preparation,
all of those things him. Guys like Camm Correy at Man,
they're top notch as far as preparation.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Steve Sparks, Astro's broadcaster, on his Monday visit here on
Sports Talk seven ninety Sean Salisbury Show, Steve, I don't
know of anybody better with your approach. You're always fair
to talk about fromber than you. What are we missing well?
Why the last nine or ten starts. Has this been sideways?

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A couple of good ones? But what is it that
doesn't allow him to reach down and give us more
of that as opposed to less of it, especially at
the time when you need these guys to win a division.

Speaker 9 (01:18:30):
Well, I think it's just like anybody else, even if
you're a young player or an older player, or a
very successful player. I'll tell you one thing that I
noticed more than anything else, John, when I got to
the big leagues and I turned thirty one my rookie year,
and I couldn't believe. And I've played with a lot
of those guys in the minors, but I couldn't believe

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that major leaguers were as insecure as they actually were.

Speaker 16 (01:18:56):
Right, And I couldn't believe they weren't as confident is
even somebody who sucked like I did.

Speaker 9 (01:19:02):
I mean, some of those guys were all stars, and
they just didn't have a ton of confidence.

Speaker 16 (01:19:08):
And I say that because if you have a bad
game or two, it's hard to go out there with confidence.

Speaker 9 (01:19:16):
You know, sometimes you just have to be very confident
in how you prepared to really have a lot of confidence,
and if things go badly, it's hard not to say
here we go again in the back of your mind,
not to say it really audibly or to let it show.
But it's really hard to have.

Speaker 16 (01:19:35):
True confidence when things and results haven't been going your way.
So when they stumble or they scuffle. And that's why
we talked about you know, sometimes it's just one good
a b or a couple of blue pits away from
a guy getting hot at the plate, and the same
thing goes to the pitching. So I think, you know,

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when we see inconsistencies, a lot of times, if they're
there's nothing wrong with him. I think a lot of
times it's between the years and it lies mostly with confidence.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Yeah, and Steve in this case, he's so good, which
we've well documented so of you how good his stuff
is that we didn't even need to qualify it. He's
so good. If the emotional overcoming or the confidence matched
the stuff. Hell, we'd be talking to cy young winner
in competition every frigging year, and we already are at times.
But Okay, now that we know the conflict, and we've
known it with Fromber and it's it's not personal. It's

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just that he gets a little sideways and it's hard
to fathom that somebody that talented does lack some confidence.
But I've seen it in football too, and stories of
guys that people wouldn't believe you're like that guy's in
the Hall of Fame. But there was times. Bruce Matthews
will tell you the Great Guard, he was afraid of
his job every day on the practical That's why he
didn't miss. Now think about that eighteen nineteen years. If

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it's good enough for Bruce, it's good enough for me,
that's for sure. As a teammate of mind. But yes,
fear crazy, their fear of not being able to pull
it off. Yet everybody in the building knows well they're dominant.
They're never getting replaced until they decide they want to quit.
But with Fromer, now that we know the conflicts, even
I'm not trying to play psychologists, and I know you're
not either because I don't get paid by that hour.

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But when he knows the conflict, how do you fix it?
How does the guy so good with so much talent
fix it so the believability and so the emotional stuff
doesn't get in the way. Okay about any big deal,
how do you fix that after all this time? Because
that's been his weakness since he's been in the league.

Speaker 16 (01:21:29):
Well, I mean it's part of It's part of coaching, right,
I mean you get to know guys and you know
what buttons to push to get him through situations like that.
And you know, sometimes, you know, you don't coach everybody
the same way. Some guys who were brought up differently
and respond to different methods of coaching. And and do
you need to pat him on the back or you

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need to kick him in the rear end? Whatever you
have to do to keep them focused, I think is
the secret. So, I mean it's you know, it's a
lot of times go out there and coach man, and
go out there and and help this guy through this,
make him feel great about himself going into a game,
and and to be able to stick to a plan
and go out there and use your weapons. Do your

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stuff is good enough and go out there and use it?

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Are they doing that, Steve? Are they is he to
the point?

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Sometimes Yeah, sometimes you just love to do phenomenal.

Speaker 9 (01:22:22):
Right, These guys I would put them above most. I
mean I think Josh Miller, Bill Murphy, the pitching staff
with the Astros are fantastic and I think, you know,
sometimes you have challenges and you just you go through
the roll with Deck as a coach, right, sean quarterback,
Sometimes you can say one thing to a guy, but

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sometimes you have to say it a different way to
get them to do it right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
And the player's got to be receptive to it too, right, Steve,
The player's got to be two years in one mouth
and be receptive to coaching, right, Yeah, you know, And I.

Speaker 16 (01:22:56):
Don't want to speculate on how they you know, tried
to help through some consistencies. But man, when he's going well,
I mean, there's there's not much to talk about other
than just you know, drop your jaw and watch him
and get double plays and and get into the authentic. So, uh,
they needed to turn it around. I get what you're saying,

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you know. And when he's inconsistent, it gets frustrating because
you you have high expectations for somebody of that caliber.
But uh, you know, you just got to keep trusting
that he's going to go out there and figure it out.

Speaker 8 (01:23:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
I think the maddening part of the frustration is we
know how good he is, right. See, we're not talking
about an average guy, so he's taken us to top levels.
So when he's not, it's like, what the hell's going
on here? Right man? It's it's not supposed to be
like this because he's actually spoiled us with his stuff.
So hopefully he finds his way at the right time
of year, because we're there, Steve, what are we going
to find out about the Astros? In your mind and

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these next you know, with the with the Rangers and
the Mariners, and the Mariners are playing damn good baseball.
What are we going to learn in that six game
stretch about this team in your In your opinion.

Speaker 9 (01:24:00):
Well, I think we're going to learn about some of
the deaths that they have pitching wise, and I think
they'll probably have a bullpen game again like they did
in Atlanta, which worked out very well. Jayden Murray was
great starting that one, and the other three guys were
rookies that pitched very well and the Astros won the games,
and of course the offense was jump started by Zach

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Cole who kind of got it going. But the thing
I think that we're going to learn a lot is
that the Astros have won Jason Alexander's last eight starts,
and he starts off this home stand, which is I
think a big one. The Astros need to get off
to a good start, and I think they got the
right guy on the mount. I mean, he threw seven
scoreless innings and his last started to get some very

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good lineup in Toronto. He just looks unflappable right now.
I mean he looks like the real deal. I mean
he's very talking about somebody who's very confident right now.
That's jameson Alexander. And you talk about how much there's
expectations with from or high expectation. You didn't have any
expectations with Jason Alexander and Brandam Walter and some of

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these guys, and when they do what they're doing right now,
you're ecstatic. And I don't know where they'd be with
Alexander some of these guys who have stepped up, But
I think we'll learn about the depth of their pitching
right now. And I think jose Brian A Bray who
got some rest in that last series against Atlanta, and
I don't think that will hurt them at all.

Speaker 16 (01:25:25):
I think he needed a little bit of a blow
and to be able to probably lean on him quite
a bit in this last two weeks.

Speaker 9 (01:25:33):
I think the braid you will pitch it bout.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
You much needed and that'll be awesome. Steve. Before I
let you go on this one, do you have to
have the conversation? It was not specting on what Joe's
going to do. Just do we need the conversation of
like in a short series playoffs right now? The way
they're pitching. Is there any chance you run Alexander out
there second as opposed to from her?

Speaker 9 (01:25:59):
Well, we'll know a lot more by then. Are you're
talking about in the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Yeah, if we get to it and you say, okay,
everybody's fresh and ready to go, I'm running for me,
I'm running Hunt of Brown out first. Is there a
chance or do feelings get hurt that Jason Alexander if
this continues that your depth in your yeah, I mean
your belief and confidence in him says we got to
run him out there second? Is that where we are?
We're not there yet.

Speaker 9 (01:26:22):
We'll get a lot more information in the next twelve
game for me. Hunter and Fromber are your your one
two punch and those are the guys that got you
to this point in Promber has been brilliant at times,
and I think you just coach them up and get
him to that point again. And I'm confident that hill
pitch well his next game. I don't see, you know,

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the velocity is still good.

Speaker 16 (01:26:46):
I can see a couple of things mechanically that may
have flattened out his curveball and his two seam fast on.

Speaker 9 (01:26:52):
I think it's probably an easy fix. I think you
can get on top of those and get back to
what he was doing. So for me still, as Hunter
Brown or Robert Baldez, you win with those guys and
you lose with them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Yeah, the reward is just too big, not too steve, right,
I mean you've you've gone this far. You just got
to run. Yeah. Yeah, the reward is bigger than the
risk when it comes to fromber right now, correct.

Speaker 9 (01:27:14):
I believe so. I mean I would stick to my gun.
He's my guy, and I know he's a nightmare matchup
for anybody when he's on.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
And let's hope that gets started right away, because this
would be a good time to do it, and it's
going to be a blasteve. I know, I'm a glutton
for punishment. I love this because everybody's engaged, and I
love the competition, you know, what I'm saying. I told
I said earlier, and when you got a ten game lead,
which is nice for the players to get rest, but
you kind of say, Okay, I'll see in the playoffs. Man.
I love I know it's like organized chaos, but I

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do love it because this is like the player in
me that wants to have something every second of the day.
And I actually love it. Just as long as the
Astros are one game better than the person they're the
team that's chasing them, or that they're chasing that they
end up one game better. But I love this competition.
But I'm sure you kind of liked me a glutton
for it, Matt, I dig it me too.

Speaker 9 (01:28:04):
I can't wait together, especially this week. Man, it's home stand,
and I'm not trying to be a promoter or anything,
but to be able to control their own destiny by
playing that the two teams that they're fighting with, Man,
it doesn't get any better.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
I'm with you a huge at a huge six game set,
twelve games to go down one in the division. Steve,
great stuff, man. We look forward to it next week
and have a great week. This should be a blast
to watch, my man and listen to so Thank you.
We appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (01:28:31):
You got it, Sean, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
That's great. Steve Sparks come back and discuss and it
makes great sense. Like I said, if you ask him
if you're going to bench from or not benching, but
moving back, Steve says, you got to go with it, man,
and I understand the risk reward. We will learn a
lot in the next twelve games.

Speaker 7 (01:28:48):
And we'll do that right here. Sewn Salisbury Show, Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 13 (01:28:58):
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Speaker 6 (01:29:05):
There's not a lot of things that Sparky says that
I disagree with, but one of them is what he
said about his one and two. I mean number one,
it's a given Hunter Brown is going game one for you. Which,
now for the Astros, you get into the postseason, which
they're two games up on the Rangers for the final
wildcard spot. They're only a game back of the Red
Sox for the second wild card and two and a

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half back of the Yankees, which they're playing for the division.
That's what they want. They want to be able to
host those games. They want to be able to you know,
be in front of the home fans, all of those
different types of things. We get that, but two at
the same time, it's about who you trust going out there,
and at least for the last about seven eight nine
starts of from er Valdez, Sean, I can't trust him

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as far as I can throw him, and that's why
I can't use him as a starter in the postseason.
Nothing personal, but it's just the truth. I can't count
on him. I would agree, I don't trust him right
now at all. I gotta have my frontline starters. I
would actually rather have a grinder, bulldog, tough guy mentally

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emotionally tough than I would a guy with good stuff.
Does that make sense if he said, Sean, choose one
solid stuff but a mental bulldog, tough, emotion nothing bothers him.
Phenomenal stuff, but the second to gets sideways. I mean,
I'm talking about some of the three or four best
stuff in the league, and we can't argue that. When

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he's going right, he just does top five, but emotionally
he's going to be eh. Okay, you want a ten
talent with six emotional toughness or do you want a
six and a half talent? With ten emotional toughness.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
I'll take the second one. I always now if you
get both well, the guy in Detroit, Ferlander who was here,
we can roll through those cats, right, and some of
those guys we would mention fromber stuff good as theirs.
The problem is there's probably five or six guys on
the mound here that are emotionally tougher than he is.

Speaker 6 (01:31:10):
I just know what postseason baseball is. We've seen plenty
of it around here, and it is an infield hit
that gets an inning started.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
It's a bad call by the empire. It's a slide
into second base where the guy steals a base on you.
Now you're it's a step off the mound because I
can't quite hear and get you sideways, or they got
you on the pitch clock and the next thing you know,
and it's gonna happen all the time. There's far more
adversity than there is. I mean, in every inning there's
a high stress level. You know, you may go three up,
but then you may face where you walk to you're

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gonna induce the double play, or you're gonna get sideways
and walk a third one. Then Now, a double play
still scores a run if it's hit to the right
side of the infant. You get my point. Yeah, so
I listen. I want, like nothing else to believe that
this guy's an ace in every sense of the word.
He's an ace with this stuff, and he's an ace
with his competitiveness. He's a fourth star with his emotional

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ups and downs. Now, but the risk that we're talking
about with Steve and he is right, I would agree,
after all this time and what you've seen the body
of work, don't you think, well, what now?

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
Think?

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
I want you to think about this for a second.
Just think about the if you're in their situation where
you got to make a sense, you and I are
on the same page, and so trust me, there ain't
a soul alive that sets here and thinks that Jason
Alexander's not pitching better than fromber Valdez and that you
trust him more today because I do.

Speaker 9 (01:32:29):
You do.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
I'd imagine some who aren't saying it do as well.
You know that, whether it's fans or media or national
media or even people on that staff or in that
in those coaches meetings. But here's the risk you run too,
and don't think these things don't come into play when
it comes to organizational stuff in sports. One, you got

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the thought of, okay, let's just say Fromber goes out
that Jason Alexander starts the second game in the playoffs
season sess session, you know, in the in the playoffs,
and goes out there and gets knocked out in two
and two thirds.

Speaker 7 (01:33:07):
What do you think they're going to say, should have
been Fromber?

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
At least you know that if it was Fromber, that
I'm expecting this, because right now we're not expecting anything
but success from Jason Alexander. The way's pitch and then
you come under that scrutiny if you start Fromber, guess
what it is. It's well, he's been our race for
he's been our first front line star. You have the out,
you just do, not that you're looking for it, but
you have the out. So the risk of what Farmer

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goes side was like, Okay, we've we've come to expect
at the last ten starts. Now let's get in there
and hopefully we can scratch out a bunch of bullpen work.
If Jason Alexander starts and go sideways, everybody's gonna say
you can't start him here. He's never been in this situation.
You got to start a guy with experience and stuff.
You're starting fromber in your first two starts. I'm just

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telling you you are. And it may not be the
wise move, but it is the safer move organizationally.

Speaker 6 (01:34:00):
And I mean even with the struggles right now, it's
kind of like the same thing you run into with
Jose Altuve. Of he's earned the right to be able
to battle his way out of it. That's probably the
way they look at it with Frombert too, He's earned
the right to still have that chance.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
One's emotionally and mentally tougher. That's that's Altuve period. We've
seen he's seen the movie and many times people say, oh, man,
look at him, Chase so looking at you. And then
he goes on a streak and it's like dudes carry
a team on his back. Okay, that's just it is.
So it's him is just getting chasing bad stuff where
he's just getting one of those streaks where he's struggling.
I'm never worried about al Tuove's confidence or that if

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he comes back see Al two today expects he's going
to hit two home runs in this series. You just
know he does in a game, even though he may
not maybe chasing bad pitches are popping up and stay
out of the strike zone. I'm never worried if Altuve
thinks al Tuove can perform it. If he gets sideways,
you know who he's gonna say. Here's one thing I
definitely know about him. That's my bad, not anybody else's.

(01:34:57):
Not because I made an air, not because somebody else
made an that you affected me, none of that. He'll
fight through that. That's why you trust that. And there's
another guy. He could strike out ten more times in
a row in this day, in the next three games straight,
ten in a row, and guess what he's doing in
the fourth game. If you're not resting in with the
scheduled day off, his ass is played. And if it's
the postseason, you're not sitting how Tuove in game two

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of the postseason because of a struggle injury maybe, but
you're not sitting in because of a struggle, because there's
a metal toughness about him that says he can he
can do this thing. So the similarities are there, though
you're right with the struggle of pitching struggle for both,
but one you trust. I think a million times more
that emotionally he can. Still he's going to roll out

(01:35:39):
there confidently even if he strikes out three times now
twove right now, I don't know I know how Ralph
Tuva will respond. I don't know how from Er Valdez
is going to respond. And if he gets sideways in
a fourth inning in his first start in the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (01:35:54):
Oh, I have a good idea because we've seen it,
and we've seen it way too often, and that's been
the issue with him this year.

Speaker 7 (01:36:00):
Rick and spring Branch will get you involved.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
You want to join him?

Speaker 6 (01:36:02):
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And we're the Sean Salisbury Show continues. We've seen it
in years past.

Speaker 6 (01:37:53):
I mean Carlos Correa and then they let him walk,
George Springer let him walk. I mean, we've seen it
all play out. But one of the guys that they
did end up paying and keeping around just went on
the I L again with a sore hand, and that's
Lance mccullor's junior, which probably effectively ends his season. I
would probably guess that when this il stint runs out.

(01:38:14):
I mean, I don't even think you can have him
on the postseason roster at this point, just because I
feel like there's guys that have been able to post
for you and been able to pitch and been able
to do exactly what you need out of those guys,
and he just availability wise has not been there for
this team. So it gets to the point where he's
entering into his final year of his deal. I mean,

(01:38:35):
it's it's as simple as that. For you, you just
say eat the sunken cost and and move on.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
What do you see that tells you different? And I'm
and I'm a M Colors fan, dude, I am, But again,
what's what's the what's the full extent of the jury? Now,
a sore hand. It was rhetorical, but yeah, sore hand.

Speaker 7 (01:38:59):
I mean, just for of the audience that didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
No, that's that's why I asked the operation, right, That's
that's why I asked this so in case somebody didn't know. Uh,
love the guy, it's not personal. I do, but there's
no way that you can there's no way he can
be on your postseason roster, even if he was healthy.
I guess maybe in the bullpen, I guess you can
use him for an inning, I guess, but.

Speaker 6 (01:39:23):
Then it becomes an issue of command, which at times
has been an issue. And yeah, if I'm gonna use
him out of the bullpen, well then I need people
who can come in and throw strikes.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
Man, there's very few that you root harder for to
to come back and be fully right, you know, to
do his thing. It's just it's it's been a rough
though and now it's a handsoreness. How does that happen?

Speaker 6 (01:39:52):
I understand, blister shows up to the ballpark one day
and says, hey, yeah, but what is how does that
happen with the mono?

Speaker 7 (01:39:58):
It's it's it's not really feeling all that great. All right,
let's take a look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
Well, was it away from baseball?

Speaker 15 (01:40:06):
Sore on us?

Speaker 7 (01:40:08):
Your guests is as good as mine? And is it
it's his pitching hand?

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
Correct? Correct? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:40:15):
I mean if it's his glove hand, I mean, take.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
Your glove in there and go go do it right,
it's I bet. I'm just trying to figure out how
does that happen. I don't know, I understand carpal tunnel. Yeah,
I'm not sure about any of that stuff. But I
just go off of what the astros told us, and
they said, sore hand. So see, whenever your ile stent

(01:40:38):
is done, okay.

Speaker 6 (01:40:43):
Well, I mean it's just he's doing seventeen million dollars
next year, and you appreciate everything he did twenty seventeen.
He's been a massive part of this organization and will
be twenty seventeens eight years ago. No exactly, but I mean,
but my point is is that the emotion spending at
that point is what got you.

Speaker 7 (01:41:03):
I mean there's to a certain point.

Speaker 6 (01:41:05):
I think we can agree that some of the guys
that the Astros have let walk, they've been able to
find replacements. I mean, did anybody complain about Jeremy Pania
Not in twenty twenty two. They didn't, because the guy
showed up and was like, man, this guy is even
better than advertised. Always winning the ALCSMVP. Oh, he won
the World Series MVP. Okay, we'll take that. That'll work.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
I just I'm just wondering whenever we're gonna get him
for a full season of health.

Speaker 6 (01:41:33):
I think you're gonna be waiting a long time for
that because it's just unfortunately. And that's the part too,
is I think that the bullpen move was part of it.
I think they moved him out there because they just
finally sat him down and said, you being a starter
is not good for you longevity wise, because you haven't
proven that you can stay healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
Well, it's not just good for him, it's good for
it's not good for the organization because you can't keep
doing this start starting and stopping. And I mean, you know,
I crossed the disruption to the flow of first starting.
Got to get to let somebody else grab that confidence
if it's not going to work, and it's a bummer.
I hate it because we know when he's going good.
But how much long can you keep saying we know,
we know when it's every year it's something.

Speaker 6 (01:42:13):
Well, I mean, you can't and you've got to be
able to move on with the guys you got. I mean,
I understand that Javier was not great the last time out.
That's fine, that happens. Arraghetty. He's been up and down
this year with injuries and that sucks. You hope that
you get him back, but doesn't seem like he's going
to be back. And next year, I mean you with

(01:42:33):
the injuries, assuming these injuries heal the way that you
hope they will, then you should probably be in pretty
good shape when it comes to pitching next year.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
But I'm not worried about next year right now. I'm
worried about right now. Yeah. So I don't know. Do
we expect Lance to be even available to pitch in
the postseason? No, I don't. Then it's a moot point,
right deal with the offseason stuff. There's a chance that
two guys that have been on this team for a
while won't be here when the next time around. If

(01:43:01):
they can't, you know, one money wise the other how
healthy will he be for the longevity and what will
his role be? Is you defined Lance's role here moving forward,
it's stuff that you're gonna have to They'll address that heavily.
I'm sure when the season's over. Right now, you're just
trying to scrape out, how do I find enough people
to get this thing done healthy wise and get the

(01:43:21):
bats alive and well so they get hot at the
right time, so we at least have a chance not
just to get in, but to extend to stay in
the in the postseason, and.

Speaker 6 (01:43:29):
That would be nice. Hopefully the Astros can do that.
John and Rick will get you guys involved. You want
to join them? Someone three two one two five seven
ninety against someone three two one two five seven ninety
continuing the Astros conversation here on a Monday Sports Talks
seven to ninety.

Speaker 8 (01:43:47):
Let's go.

Speaker 6 (01:43:48):
This is this Sean Salisbury show, and Deebo stopped riding
around the neighborhood giving people for bully. That's the thing is,
once once you deliver, once you deliver that beating this
summer buddy, then they know yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
Mean then the the the bully, the bullyingess goes out
the way.

Speaker 6 (01:44:06):
Because every everybody knows that that guy's not as as
big as he thinks he is. There you go, so
somebody else is gonna try him. Then somebody else is
gonna try him. That's the door that opens up when
you do that. So good pull by triple right there,
nice triple good. That's that's that's too straight too.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
That you know.

Speaker 6 (01:44:23):
Sometimes off the ear you'll hear as we're putting on
our our cans, our headsets here here in the studio
is sean Oh what a cut?

Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
Oh what a cut? I could say that about a
lot of music that Triple E plays on here. That's
one of our strikes. It really is music we have.
It really is no doubt about it. He sets the
tone Tuesday tomorrow, that's right, bringing it back, that's right.
So there you go, and we we deserve we do
deserve tea Tuesday. It's been it is, it has been

(01:44:52):
a long time coming. We're gonna get it back. I'm
excited about it. I does need breakfast burritos dealt to
us every single Tuesday. I you know, look, I I
could have a lot fewer complaints that's for sure. Get
some good eggs. Get see more of a flower tortilla, guy,
or a breakfast flower flower over corn, flower over corn.

Speaker 7 (01:45:12):
You call tortillas or tortilla's ortillas, that's wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
The matter with you a lot. I mean, we know
what it is, but I like to call them tortillas sometimes, yeah,
just to see if people like correct.

Speaker 7 (01:45:25):
Not knock it off, Napoleon, eat it da in casadilla.

Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
I like to say, hey, man, what do you want?
Give me a flower tortilla all sometimes say at a
restaurant to see if they look at me like some
people call them vegeta. Yes, I do that too. I
like the chicken and steak vegetas, just to say if
they look at me like, oh, gringo, man, yeah, you
gotta know more. We gotta know more about the the
Mexican food, right, yes, you know, I like kind of like.

Speaker 6 (01:45:47):
To when it comes when it comes to Mexican food,
I think we we use the proper pronunciations, but when
it comes to like you know, towns like Blanco, Texas, yeah, Blocko, Well,
I mean that's probably how it's supposed to be said.
But even people you meet that are from Blanco, Texas
will say I'm from Blanco.

Speaker 8 (01:46:04):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:46:05):
So you know, the more people know, I guess someone
three two one, two, five, seven ninety is the number
to get in spring branch Rick gonna get us going, Rick,
what's going on?

Speaker 9 (01:46:16):
How the going?

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
Guys?

Speaker 9 (01:46:17):
Hope, did you hear me?

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
Your buds, I don't know if you'll hear me right not?
We we got you got it?

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
I kind of agree with Sean a little bit.

Speaker 17 (01:46:26):
You know, right at this point, we really can't trust
what fam what's framble, what we're gonna get, you know,
But to not start him in a postseason, it's not
going to happen. I mean, this guy's been kind of
our ace in the past, and I think we did this.
It was Jet Diverland as well when he was constructing.
We still threw him out there anyways. So I still

(01:46:49):
think we're going to still have hundred and one, Frambird
two and probably Alexander number three, just because of what
he's done in the past. But I agree with you, man,
his his his mental there is not there. And if
he starts getting rattled in third or force any yank
and pull him at as soon as he can because
he's he's out the same frame.

Speaker 6 (01:47:07):
Grow he appreciate the call, Rick, And you know, the
funny thing is part of that conversation right there is
I'm getting a lot of people who are responding this way.
Alway's costing himself money in the open market. I don't
think so, because there's gonna be enough time between now
and then, and a team wants to be able to
spend and add somebody that they believe could be a

(01:47:29):
front end of the rotation guy, which, honestly, for Fromber
probably you would get the best out of him being
a good two, but more than anything a three.

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
They're gonna pay him, and he's not going to start
for anybody. And unless you go to somewhere that's got
you know, your first two starters are, he's going to
go somewhere as a number one or number two, and
regardless of what's half of the rest this year, he's
gonna get paid, and he's gonna get paid a lot,
and he's going to be a front line starter because
he's a premium left hander. Whether we like what he's
doing late or not, or the fact that sometimes he

(01:48:02):
gets a little sideways more often than not when things
don't go, well, somebody's gonna think they can fix that well,
and that's gonna be and then they that's exactly what
they're gonna do. And that's exactly why he's gonna get
paid a bundle. The Yankees probably will be looking to
add somebody. Imagine that in New York. Imagine how that's
gonna be handled well, talk shows, papers, everything up there.

(01:48:24):
If it's Philly, Boston or New York, he's gonna have
to even even Chicago's no doubt, toughen up a little more.
Just tough enough, tad bit more.

Speaker 6 (01:48:37):
I mean, because it's not just gonna be the media
that's gonna be giving you a hard time.

Speaker 7 (01:48:41):
The fan base too.

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
You think you ask for it'll be your best friend
in New York that's given you a hard time, or
in Philly. They their expectations are different. He's gonna get
paid like a guy who's your guy. You run out
there first, regardless of what happens from here on out.
It's a no brain. He's getting paid. He's already posted
enough score where every we see it apping a'll say, oh,
I can fix that guy. He's got great stuff that

(01:49:03):
he've got. The hard part, take care of now, I
just need to make sure I build his confidence in
that and watch. You know, he almost got to micro
manage his confidence, which is a little bit overboard for
a grown ass man, but you might have to. Oh,
make no mistake about it. He's not like pitching for
his next contract. He's already that. That's already there's twenty
eight million reasons or more. Well, that's already sitting in
a back dude. I'm just telling you it's gonna happen

(01:49:24):
because those guys don't just fall in land in your lap.
And every coach I've ever met an organization feels like
they can fix anybody that's had a that's you know,
he's not breaking the law, he's not doing that. He's
got great stuff, and it's like, oh, well we'll fix
that confidence here, no problem. But then you're gonna have
to deal, Well, what do you do the first time
he goes sideways on you? But he's getting paid. He's

(01:49:45):
not pitching for his career. His career is going to
be fine, and may be the difference in twenty nine
million and thirty two million, but he's going to get paid.

Speaker 6 (01:49:52):
Yeah, good luck with that. I just know that it
ain't going to be here, John and Skato, is that
how happen? I'm gonna say, sketa, skeeda.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
I don't know. That's just me. That's what I'm gonna
go with my host on phonics.

Speaker 7 (01:50:04):
We'll figure it out.

Speaker 6 (01:50:05):
I guess one of us two got it right, but
also too did Dana Brown dish out some reasons to
be optimistic yesterday. We'll let you decide right here as
we get into the nine o'clock hour. Shawn Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Speaker 6 (01:50:59):
The finale of the Astros in Braves series. Not great
as they lose that one eight to three, but they
do take two out of three in the series. Next
up the Rangers in Town. They're two games back of you.
The Mariners are gonna be later in the week. They're
a game in front of you in the American League
West now, so the Astros work cut out for them.
And a six o'clock kick tonight over at NRG Stadium

(01:51:22):
between the Bucks and the Texans for Monday night football.
Sean noted earlier, a Monday night double header. You get
that one first, and then if you want to stay
up late, which we won't, I mean, at least I won't.
A team that you love in a team that you
got paid by, Yeah, gonna be facing off against each other.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
Unfortunately out of the payroll for one anymore. And I
still love by Raiders and I'm out on the Chargers payroll.
Love them both. Should be a fun game. We call
this a twy night doubleheader.

Speaker 6 (01:51:50):
I think, so it's not day night no, right, although
I mean it is going to start during the day here,
so I guess you could say that it is a day.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
Night double six o'clock, six o'clock evening for me.

Speaker 6 (01:52:00):
And that's the thing too, is whenever people need the
teams are very very particular about this. If you have
a day night doubleheader, is that the day you've got
tickets to that one? You want to stick around for
the next one. Get over to the box office and
buy yourself some tickets to stick around for it, because
we got a.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Whole new crowd coming in, I think, and this would
be there's no way it'll happen because well, they're too
worried about people getting a little tired because they had
to play two times and go to the play eight
times in the day. We need more double headers. I
loved double headers, dude. It like took up your whole day.
I mean, you come home, you see that first one,
whether it was a day night doubleheader or just you know,

(01:52:37):
the hour in between. I freaking love them. I don't
know what well, I don't know why we had to
change that. I don't well, listen scheduled days off, yeah, schedule, listen,
load management schedule. They had less either the tougher ways
to travel. When when Mike, I mean the things they

(01:52:57):
had to do back then, when Mike Cameron told me,
shot I played in like one hundred and eighty days,
we played one hundred and sixty two games. Is like
what But it's like, I seriously, I mean, come on, man,
can we get I wonder if anybody missed the idea
I thought that was I loved a day baseball game,
knowing Thursday of a game and then boom, got another

(01:53:18):
doubleheader or you know the Saturday doubleheader that was in
the afternoon and your whole day was And I love,
I love doubleheader baseball. And I know they're not going
to do it because well, we just don't want to
make the players tired. But come on, they can they
we made more. The travel used to be tougher, they
demanded more of them on the travel. Now you work

(01:53:38):
a little less, paint a lot more. And I know
that's I'm not anybody's walk good on them, but we've
kind of taken away some of the things that again,
the fans never get a seat at the table ever
and anything when it comes to sports other than cheering
or booing or whatever. They don't get a sea at
the table in any decision making. I wonder if anybody's
like me that you miss more doubleheaders?

Speaker 6 (01:53:58):
Well, I mean, you know, the good thing you don't
for a team that's owned by Rachel Phelps, because if
you do, then you take the bus and it's got
She she owned the Cleveland franchise that she was trying
to move down to South Florida so she could have
membership at the Boca Ratone.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
Oh there you go. You know what was it?

Speaker 7 (01:54:16):
Tennis and country club.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
Yess, when you're a billionaire, you kind of hold out
anything you want, you know, and ask for anything you want.

Speaker 6 (01:54:22):
Here's a list of the players we're gonna be inviting
the spring training. Never heard of half these guys. The
ones I do know overway past their prime. Some of
these guys never even had a prime.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (01:54:30):
This guy here is dead across him off then well,
movie major league.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Hey, you gotta let the people know sometimes if you
don't know that, I don't know what to do with you.
I'm sorry. I'll bet you eighty percent of people listen
didn't know the movie. Wow, they you know the movie?
But no, we just we just learned you something if
you didn't know. Yep. Always teaching, Dan, always teaching.

Speaker 6 (01:54:53):
If you know, you know, and I think most of
our people know someone three two one two five seven
ninety uh the yea optimism from Dana Brown. We'll get
to that here coming up in about ten minutes. John
in downtown, John, good morning.

Speaker 15 (01:55:08):
How are you doing good?

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
Well?

Speaker 15 (01:55:12):
The way we look at it here is this is
it right here?

Speaker 4 (01:55:17):
Man?

Speaker 15 (01:55:17):
This is where all the marbles are, Texas Tech. You know,
the Rangers coming into town and in Seattle, and it's
going to be it and you have to win at
least what there's six games, right.

Speaker 6 (01:55:31):
Yeah, you're gonna have six. I've said, I said, no, no,
no worse than four and two. You can go no
worse than four and two this week.

Speaker 15 (01:55:39):
You got to win at least four of them. And
if you don't do that, then I'm sorry, guys, but
he'll be sitting at home.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
That we did good.

Speaker 15 (01:55:49):
You know what helped us was at the beginning of
the season with all the games they won. That's why
we're still here. Then, you know, but what happened to
the pitching all of a sudden, I mean, yesterday we
were watching you know, there was an angle that uh
the the nf MLB showed about.

Speaker 3 (01:56:09):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:56:10):
Then uh Diaz was yelling.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
At proper Yeah we heard about it.

Speaker 15 (01:56:15):
Yeah, and then and then after that his expression changed completely.
But when it really broke down and the top of
the fifth when he walked profar, you know that that's
that that was the that was the main you know,
that's what really went bad. And you know, it's just
you know, and then you know, these guys have really
uh you know, they're really trying hard, but I don't

(01:56:37):
know what what's causing all this, you know, and uh,
you know, they they're just going to have to you know,
reach way back down in there.

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (01:56:47):
You you you caused yourself to get into these problems.
You got to dig your way out. And that's the
only way to put it. I know it doesn't sound good,
but you know, it's just it's all there is to it. Yeah,
yesterday yesterday missed a proper he put himself in that
in that position, so that's what happened. And so anyway,

(01:57:09):
you guys have a great day, all right.

Speaker 6 (01:57:12):
You two, John, I mean you said it earlier, Sean.
It's single elimination is pretty much the mindset you have
to have right now. Where I mean, you are in
the playoffs at this moment. I mean literally and figuratively
you are in the playoffs. But I mean again, the
Rangers up until yesterday had not been losing and they
get walked off yesterday and ten innings. Think you, Pete Alonso,

(01:57:32):
just unfortunate. The Astros couldn't do anything with it. But
I mean, that's how you have to look at these games,
is that you've got hopefully a playoff atmosphere with the crowd,
and hopefully a team that realizes how important these games are,
because I mean, the long season is no longer a
long season. It's now very much a short season. And
if you don't play better, then you're not even going

(01:57:54):
to have the next season.

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
Okay, so you say four and two, who do they
close against? They got the Angel who else? The A's
next week? All right, so let's say they go too
and four.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
In this one.

Speaker 7 (01:58:06):
Yeah, then next week you have to probably go five
and one.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
Well you just told me they had to go four
and two or they're done.

Speaker 7 (01:58:12):
Yeah, because against these.

Speaker 2 (01:58:13):
Guys they go to and four and then they sweep
the next six. I don't count on that happening, not
with the way that this team is playing. Why the
hell would you count on this team to go four
and too if you're not going to if you're not
going five, because.

Speaker 6 (01:58:25):
On your home field should be feasible, you should be
able to do that. Judging from the last month and
a half, I get what you're saying, but I'm just
saying that, Yeah, you're telling me you can't go go
five and one against Oakland and the Angels, but you
can go four and two against the Mariners and the Rangers,
and the way the Mariners are going, you should expect
to try and steal one, even if it's in the

(01:58:47):
parking lot. The way that if you just take a
look at both teams, so uh, to me, they're never
it's not you're not done until until you are literally
until the math says you're you're finished.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
Now do you put more pressure? And maybe just maybe
I hate to say this, heading into these two series
which are ultra important, maybe just maybe that this team
actually has to have their back facing elimination before they
realized before there's another I'm talking about this year's team
before the urgency kicks and I don't know, but you

(01:59:22):
know yet end this is a different season. It was
the year the Rangers won the World Series and you
still won the division on the last you know, six games,
And had they were under the same pressure a couple
of years ago, right, what was it twenty twenty three? Yeah,
and so here you are again, but yeah, it would
be nice to have a little leeway. But even then,
if you go four and two, what happens if you

(01:59:42):
lollygag and go two and four in the next series,
the next two after you're talking about next week. Yeah,
then you're eight and four and all of a sudden
the other teams go nine and three. Then you're in trouble.

Speaker 6 (01:59:55):
At least one of them is getting in front of you,
because the beauty of you having the two game lead
on the Rangers is that they've got to be at
least three games better.

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
Right, So point is, you got a chance regardless, but
it would give you a lot more latitude to feel
good about it if you could sweep one of these
and go and win the next series, or go four
into two and one win bull series. Yeah, but still,
I've seen the Oakland A's movie way too many times
and the Angels for you to say that that's that's comfortable. Yet,

(02:00:24):
if we're expecting four and two here, I don't care
where you play the Angels in ags. You're better than
them and you should put them away in both series. Now,
you win all four series, you're gonna end up winning
the division. Well, so we'll see if they're capable of
doing that at the plate.

Speaker 6 (02:00:37):
Recent times against the A's have not necessarily been kind
to the Stros. Skata Adrian will get you involved. You
want to join them someone three two one two five
seven ninety against someone three two one two five seven ninety.
Will also let you hear from Dana Brown from his
visit with Robert Ford yesterday. All of that coming your
way right here. Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (02:00:59):
Sean Salisbury Show continues on Sports Talk seven ninety ninety.

Speaker 13 (02:01:04):
Home for your home.

Speaker 2 (02:01:06):
Teams Monday night, six o'clock tailgate on a Monday game.
I was gonna say, when will they start rolling in there? Oh?

Speaker 6 (02:01:14):
I mean probably you already got people who are primed
to get up there right now, just took the day off.

Speaker 2 (02:01:20):
I mean, I you know they tailgate like on a Sunday.
I know it would already start because it's early for
a noon game, right I mean, are are they tailgate
right now? I don't think so, because I don't cooking
it up and having fun right now.

Speaker 6 (02:01:30):
I mean maybe maybe you're doing all the prep yeah,
at like stadium, Like I thought about that for people
out there that you know, smoking up some good meats,
because I mean that takes hours upon hours. So I mean, yeah,
you've got some people. You know what someone three two
and two, five seven nine, who's been doing that already?

Speaker 2 (02:01:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (02:01:47):
If you?

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
I mean, I'm wondering if you're at the stay in
the day, let you in to start grilling it up
and you know, cooking your brisket all day and really
slow cooking it so it's ready to go with you know,
like three thirty or four before the six o'clock game.
And can you start drinking right now? I mean, what
goes on that game? Of course you can. I'm talking
about at the stadium. Well, I mean talking yeah, I
know you can go to a bar, but I'm talking
about at the stadium. Are they tailgating from Monday night

(02:02:09):
football right now? Let's see probably I would say about noon.

Speaker 7 (02:02:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:02:13):
I don't know when the gates are going to open
for you to be able to get in park, set
up your tents, do all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 7 (02:02:20):
Like I I don't begrudge. Here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (02:02:22):
I don't think in my lifetime I will ever throw
a tailgate party just because of everything that goes for it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:27):
But I'll show up to your tailgate party. I love it, man,
I'll throw one. I'm trying to actually throw my trojan friends,
them all my teammates and stuff, and then throw one
where it's a big game and we're all tailgates. It's
a reunion slash tailgate is what it is. I mean,
you could also do where get it catered mat or
have some pay somebody to come bring their grill and tailgate.

(02:02:49):
We did some former you know, you know somebody who
knows somebody. It's a trojan, a lumps hey man, pay
you to come out here and and just put some
potatoes out, some victuals. Let's get it all and we'll
just a bunch of them, you know, places to sit,
find your own place to sit, stand up, whatever is,
bring your own chair, and let's tailgate reunion. So I'm
okay with that now. Yeah, it's nice when somebody else's

(02:03:09):
you can go, you go horn in on. But I
think there it's pretty awesome. I think one time i've
tailgated here for a game, I've wanted to.

Speaker 6 (02:03:18):
Yeah, I've wanted to tailgate, but just never, you know,
I've always been working or just whatever it might be.

Speaker 7 (02:03:26):
But actually that's not true. I've gone out to see
friends and.

Speaker 2 (02:03:29):
You know, I like good tailgate. I think I think
good tailgating kind of. I know, there's something about like
it's like we talked about good clubhouses bring teams together.
I think good tailgating cities. I was able to tailgate
properly and do right. That's I think why college football
to me blows away the NFL because I love the
just the atmosphere of the college town waking up, everybody's

(02:03:51):
going and it's just I think it's kind of cool.
If you wake up in Tuscaloose, you wake up in
Knoxville or Baton Rouge, and it's like, now, see at
LA where I went, school's a little different because we're
a commuter school, even though a private school that people
had to company. It's not like we're in the middle
of the LA. You know, you're trying to find places
to Now around the coliseum, there's plenty of spots around
on the grass, but you're still and it's a great

(02:04:13):
place to tailgate once you get But they've now built, dude,
they've got a soccer stadium right there, right next to
the coliseum, and it's all kinds stuff. So it's kind
of you try to find your way through and take
the obstacle. Course, you're not real sure where all your
buddies are going to be. But I love the atmosphere
of everybody's up and it's like seven o'clock on a
college football in the games at two thirty and everybody's

(02:04:34):
tail There's something to be said. I almost feel like
strong tailgating communities feel like they have great teams, but
that's not the case. There's places that can't have horrible
teams that still tailgate their assholes.

Speaker 7 (02:04:45):
I mean that's like Ole miss will tell you, you know,
we might have lost the game, but we never lose
the party.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
Yeah, and that's a fact. If you've never been to
the grove that is, that is an absolute fact. So yeah,
I'm just curious when you start your tailgating in uh
In on a Monday.

Speaker 6 (02:05:02):
Night game, I'm guessing that there's probably a good amount
of the workforce today that has taken today off and
maybe a half day tomorrow, if not just taking it
completely day and.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
A half off to watch a football game. Oh yeah,
really yeah, and so they need a little load management too,
huh for a regular season football game, tailgate hard scheduled
day off. Some would say, wow, and then you got
today tomorrow, Yeah, two days off that's all. If you're
gonna throw the ball over the fence and be able
to go get it, you can't be rolling in hungover.

(02:05:35):
It's wrong with you. Well how about Well it's also
about some accountability. You got a job, you don't have
it now. If you've got a day off, use it.
If tailgateing is your way to take it a day off,
I'd just as soon just save it for a vacation day. Look,
some people love that vacation day. I think it's awesome
going to the boss's office. Hey, look, you know load
super Bowl different story. Yeah, I mean, you know, just.

Speaker 6 (02:05:55):
Doesn't seem like you know production is going to be
there today. I just want to give you a heads up,
you know, so, I think I'm gonna a couple of
those personal days.

Speaker 2 (02:06:01):
It's your personal day and your day off having it.
I get it. But you get your time off. Use
your time off. I don't need a day off. After
I tell you it's step up, damn okay, let's step up.
Play hurt.

Speaker 6 (02:06:11):
I mean as I to, as I told you before.
There's a buddy of mine. When he turned twenty one,
as dad handed him his first beer. Before he did,
he said, man, enough to drink man enough to.

Speaker 2 (02:06:21):
Go to work. That's exactly right. So his dad thought him, Well,
no doubt about it. You know, it's the lessons we
carry on in life.

Speaker 6 (02:06:26):
Yep, let's continue the conversation that seven one three two
one two five seven ninety skater in spring wants to
get in skat.

Speaker 2 (02:06:32):
What's up?

Speaker 8 (02:06:35):
I'm calm to talk about the air Stroves. When the
season first started, asked, gave the air Stros a fifty
to fifty record, and I see that they were probably
finished in third place than the division pre state. Probably
whil the airs Stroves have been playing ever since the
All Star Game, they have been playing to lose out

(02:06:55):
of first place. I mean the ill a game. They've
been getting up a little bit and they will fall
out and they fall in falled. And the s Strows,
if we just face fact, the s Strows really don't
have that well of a team. You look at the hitters.
They can't hit with me and old base. They catcher
can't throw a fifty year old man out. If the

(02:07:17):
catcher they had now, if Lou brought there was still playing,
they were still one hundred and fifty bases on those guys.
And the manager he have killed his bullpen. Now he's
talking about giving the guys rest. Let the guy's rest. Okay,
they go rest. After one hundred and sixty two games,
they're gonna have a whole lot of rest because they
get out there, they get a hang nail, they can't play.

Speaker 1 (02:07:39):
They'll call it a cold.

Speaker 8 (02:07:40):
They can't play. They come out there and get three
or four hits. You got to give them some rest
and things like that. And the s strows are who
we see they are, and that's it.

Speaker 6 (02:07:52):
I appreciate the call skater. Yeah, you paint quite a
picture of how things have been going for the Stros. Well,
I mean that's pretty much for about the last couple
of months how things have looked for this team of
being consistently inconsistent. But I mean, as far as you
know some of the things he mentioned, Yner actually has
been on a tear lately of throwing guys out at
second base.

Speaker 2 (02:08:13):
That's been nice to see. And I mean, you know,
the elevation of the next step of his career to
be a dominant catcher is better be good defensively and
and it's been an improvement because we haven't seen much
of that this year.

Speaker 6 (02:08:24):
Well, I mean he's also stepped up with the bat too.
That's been nice to see and you know, been able
to help out. I mean yesterday ties the ball game
up with a RBI single left after Jake Myers got on.
I mean, how about to getting Jake Myers back? Like
how that has lengthened this lineup again where I would
like to see. Even though Steve Sparks talked about the
bottom of the order starting to give you some production,

(02:08:44):
I think he balance it out a little bit and
have him down there.

Speaker 2 (02:08:47):
He's hitting two, I mean three to ten this year. Well,
my guy Brian Oleem was listening, you owe me some
money due to see note he had him at what
two forty or two? I said, he's yeah, matter of fact,
and I joked back then I said, well, okay, so
what if he's three hundred? He goes there's no friggid way,
And I might have even said double, he's got to

(02:09:08):
double it. If he hits over three hundred, I might
be collected a pretty good payday. Like I said that,
You say, as I said, Myers would hit over two
twenty five or two thirty.

Speaker 7 (02:09:17):
Saying Lulima's got t rex arms right now, no, no, no,
you can't reach that wallet.

Speaker 2 (02:09:20):
Sorry. No, he doesn't have long pocket, a short arm.
He's good for paying. He's always been straight up paying fast.
As I've always said, fast pay makes fast friends. He's
always paid. We had to wait till the season's over.

Speaker 1 (02:09:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:09:32):
Maybe he goes on an er for seventy four slum
let's not have that. But I think I've secured some
coin and we do have the I'm sure triple he
can find the Here's what we said, because it was
no way, and I agreed with it, but I had
to take the other side. Come on, he hito sick.

Speaker 7 (02:09:46):
Knock on the door.

Speaker 2 (02:09:46):
He was two sixty. He's right around the corner from me. No,
I'm good. Yeah, I talked to him over the weekend.
So I'm here to collect. I'm gonna get mines, Okay,
I have to get mines. So I took the Jake's
gonna hit over two thirty or two forty, and I
think we had to double it. If he hits over
three hundred, and I'll be damned if if Jake Jacob

(02:10:07):
isn't hitting three ten right now? Yeh ma Alima, where
are you at? Brother Ed? I could have took a
future's bed and made a lot of money off that one.

Speaker 6 (02:10:15):
You gotta say, if nobody saw that coming, Yeah, if
you're gonna put down the prop, well, in this case,
we would have been calling you Carrot Top. I mean
it's as good with the prop comedies as that guy is.
You know, that would have been you right there.

Speaker 2 (02:10:30):
Some people don't even know who Carrot Top is. Dan,
you know the thing about that, Oh.

Speaker 7 (02:10:34):
Just look him up and then if you don't, you'll
you'll look him up and be like, oh, yeah, that guy.

Speaker 2 (02:10:37):
That guy, yeah, the redhead. It's the name carrott Top.

Speaker 6 (02:10:40):
He was home with Rogan and he's talking about like
the backhanded compliments he gets.

Speaker 2 (02:10:44):
Oh you're actually funny, Like, oh you're not just a
redhead that looks good? Yeah? Yeah. What what he's like
just when he's by himself kick your ass in the gym?
You've seen that guy, Yeah, But I'm talking about just
what he's like sitting around, if he's relaxed, co what's
his life like when he's not Carrot Top?

Speaker 6 (02:11:00):
Well, I mean I don't I don't think he like
it's like a hotel you can just check out of it.
Like he's he's carat topic. But all the time comedians
are like one way. But when they're by themselves, some
of the big they don't want to be a comedian.
I have somebody at the bar, hey, man, I know you,
and then they want him to perform.

Speaker 2 (02:11:18):
Yeah, yeah, they're they're here the same way.

Speaker 6 (02:11:21):
And a singer goes to the off you know, goes,
hey there's a stage up there. I'm just here with
my family.

Speaker 2 (02:11:26):
Yeah, I'm not singing karaoke. I get paid one hundred
thousand dollars a minute to go.

Speaker 6 (02:11:30):
SI want to see me? Pay pay your money and
come see me. Yeah, that's how you do it. There
you go, continue the conversation here talking to somebody.

Speaker 2 (02:11:38):
Probably Adrian and Gil probably on the other side. Man, sure, sure,
what do you tell him? Get him involved in the conversation,
of course? Yeah, you know, you know, you know how
this goes and they and they do too.

Speaker 6 (02:11:48):
Sometimes it's unset. So I try not to be a
creature of repetition at times. That's that's all it is.

Speaker 2 (02:11:54):
Well, I got news for you. When it comes to
we'll get you involved in the conversation. Now that that
you're a creature, I have it on that line, all right,
which is a hey, but you know what, It's called
a tease, Dan. That's it.

Speaker 6 (02:12:05):
Just keep teasing them up. They'd be right there waiting
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Speaker 2 (02:13:40):
Let's go.

Speaker 6 (02:13:40):
There's there's food to be eaten. That's the more, you know,
there's no need to be formal here, we're talking football.

Speaker 2 (02:13:46):
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Speaker 6 (02:13:46):
Yeah, no, no formal, I'm sorry. Paper plates now, there
you go. Paper plates. You know, maybe a plastic fork
if you need it. But other than that, just just
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Speaker 2 (02:14:00):
A good morning age.

Speaker 13 (02:14:02):
Fellas Fellas sell Us. And that is why I listened
to Larry in this show, because it's very, very informative.
Now let's talk about this. I don't know how many
y'all don't like Josh Allen, but you better pay attention, Sean,
you and the old school out there with no He's

(02:14:23):
got that Jim Kelly look in his eye. And if
you youngsters don't know Jim Kelly, even though he lost,
name me another core, Name me another QB that's gone
to four straight Super Bowls.

Speaker 2 (02:14:35):
And tough, tough as hell, and Josh Allen's got that
in him. Man, he does.

Speaker 13 (02:14:40):
He's danger exactly. He's got that look this year. So
I hope sorry about the noise.

Speaker 2 (02:14:48):
Of course, I got the day off.

Speaker 13 (02:14:50):
I'm at my mom's a block off the sea wall,
and the hater's gonna hate. But anyway, ah Lamar, you
did me good. Joe Spoder. You hung out with one
of the best managers there was for so long at
fixing problems, and you can't fix problems. This is what

(02:15:12):
you get for not finding a lineup and leaving it alone. Now,
all these changes has got you in a jam. And Sean,
what a great call. I remember the day you called
it because I called it with you. I hope it
came down till the last two weeks because you know what,
it's nut cutting time. Boys. I hope they there. They

(02:15:35):
better claim and Sean, don't tell them nothing, but our
Raiders are gonna upset the West. We got adults in
the room and it's gonna be some games they're not
supposed to win. And Patrick, we see your vulnerability. Riff
Freeson hadn't got nothing to do with it this year.
And the rest of y'all enjoy your day at work,

(02:15:56):
because I'm about to enjoy mine.

Speaker 2 (02:16:00):
Thank you, my man. Thanks Adrian.

Speaker 6 (02:16:02):
Yeah, I mean the lineup has been one too that
for me, it's been all right, Hey, you found something,
stick with it, Just just go with it, you know,
I mean that that group is working there.

Speaker 7 (02:16:12):
I don't want to hear about matchups. I don't want
to hear about anything.

Speaker 6 (02:16:15):
When you have struggled to find consistency, maybe be able
to believe you can be consistent.

Speaker 7 (02:16:21):
With the group that you just have right there. So
that is one that kind of is interesting to say
the least.

Speaker 2 (02:16:27):
Gil wants to weigh in. Gil, Good morning, what's going on?

Speaker 9 (02:16:32):
What's up John?

Speaker 17 (02:16:34):
What's the problem with somebody taking the day off tomorrow
and taking half the day off today to watch the game?

Speaker 9 (02:16:41):
Enjoined and so oh.

Speaker 2 (02:16:42):
I didn't say there was any problem at all. I
just said I think I said, do people? I said,
do people? I said, that's theirs. I said, I'd do
something different with my vacation days if that. But if
that's part of if they love that on the vacation
and they want to take all day off today, I
was today, I have no problem with Hell, yeah, take
it off. But I'm kind of just kind of being
a little bit satious and tongue in cheek. But tomorrow,

(02:17:03):
if you're going to post it up tonight, be ready
to tell the ball to fence, be ready to get
up and go do it again tomorrow. Let's go show up.
That's all I'm saying. On day two, I don't like
for taking the day off. Hell, you know, when you're
at your best, they should take it off. Today. It's
football day.

Speaker 9 (02:17:16):
I'm with you to day I took CALFI day.

Speaker 14 (02:17:18):
I'm only working till one o'clock because I've got a
a part time job. Now, could that my mile and
have away from it?

Speaker 2 (02:17:24):
Nice?

Speaker 14 (02:17:24):
He said, get do something, you know, because I'm not
I'm retired, but I am shit, I'm bored. So anyway,
I took cassiday to day and tomorrow took off to
watch any Graham enjoyed, have a few beers my buddies,
and then sleep in.

Speaker 2 (02:17:38):
I like you, it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (02:17:39):
I like you.

Speaker 2 (02:17:41):
I'm with it, Gil, all right, all right.

Speaker 14 (02:17:44):
So don't leaven. The guy before me just now said,
don't be mad, don't be a hater. We're taking the
day off and taking tomorrow off and blah.

Speaker 2 (02:17:52):
Yeah, so yeah, no hate here, yeah, I here, right,
And if you got the day's off, take them. And
if you're retired and don't have to work, good on you.
You guess I don't he anytime you can eat some
good food and some good drink and watch football. I
got no complaint with it. I'm just giving the guys
posting tomorrow show. If you don't have a day off,
you still got to post tomorrow, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:18:11):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (02:18:13):
Exactly.

Speaker 7 (02:18:14):
I appreciate you yeah. Well, I mean, you know, sometimes
there's even.

Speaker 6 (02:18:19):
Full health and and people won't post, Oh hey, why
are you taking tomorrow off?

Speaker 4 (02:18:23):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (02:18:23):
Just taking them the day off?

Speaker 2 (02:18:24):
Oh really? Okay, fair enough.

Speaker 6 (02:18:26):
But I don't shame. I don't shame that. The guy
that sits in this chair from ten to two, he's
the shamer.

Speaker 9 (02:18:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:18:33):
It's not me. I'm I'm not the one doing it.
You're not, that's all. You're putting that on Matt. Yeah. Yeah,
you're putting it right on Matt.

Speaker 7 (02:18:41):
He's the one who does it?

Speaker 2 (02:18:44):
Do you think? Do you think? Who's who?

Speaker 1 (02:18:50):
Do you guys?

Speaker 2 (02:18:50):
Who'd you guys call the curmudgeon? Oh that's x it
is yeah, m hmm. So how would Batt say?

Speaker 1 (02:18:58):
What?

Speaker 9 (02:18:58):
You say?

Speaker 2 (02:18:59):
Man? Nice shirt? That's fine, that's fine. Hey those tacos
look good? Matter fun? Okay? What now wex wex? Uh
so dal will give you WEX say WEX. How you
do it? H yeah? I got the game to night
see I see them bo, I don't see it until
you point it out and we get a like egg

(02:19:20):
mac matt all when he comes in. And my favorite
thing when Matt Matt walks and I always happened to
give me an umpire call. You know, Oh you got
old school imitation of umpires. He's got him down. But
I didn't know that Wex was uh had a little
bit of that in him. Yeah, it's like you so
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Speaker 6 (02:19:34):
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Let the celebration start, or Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
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Speaker 6 (02:21:50):
All right, we got a two minute drill here, so
get in, get your points in, and we can get
to all of you. If you do that, we'll start
it off. Larry and Stafford. Good morning, Larry bull dog.

Speaker 1 (02:22:01):
You know, don't give a damn about nobody behind me. Man,
two minutes be damn look here, man, you and you're
gonna have to quit talking over them Isley Brothers man,
because that was the isles in between the seats. Man.
But let's talk some sports real quick.

Speaker 8 (02:22:14):
I'll try to make it under two minutes look here.

Speaker 1 (02:22:17):
As far as six and als. So there's not enough
fixing for frambraval des Man. Let his ad get fixed
somewhere else. I'm done with that, dude. But here's what
I called about. You boys understand how important the night
is because it's Liberty white out and everybody in a
town needs to be over there on Kirby Maine in
the seats before the game start. And this is why
I've always said I need to work for the NFL,

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because I don't know who the hell decided that they
wanted to schedule our game at six o'clock when we
got eight million people in this city that try to
get around this city every single day, and now we
got to get over dow on Cirby. But I'm gonna
tell you what, your boy gonna be in the building
because I ain't nowhere in hell, my boy. They ain't
gonna show up for this Tampa Bay game because they
understand we ain't trying to be oh it two and

(02:23:01):
this is our first game. That's the queer for the
season already, it's gonna be fired up. So, son, you
know what, I'm a half. I'm gonna havel me a
red solo cup full of that stuff, baby, And you
know how I went out said, full of that stuff.
It's gonna be to that Crown Black or it's gonna
be that yex. Fellas, get this city fired up for
the night because we've been to play some big boy
football in our hall.

Speaker 2 (02:23:23):
Here you go, there you go.

Speaker 7 (02:23:25):
Now, he lived up to it right there.

Speaker 2 (02:23:26):
He lived up to it. He got right to it,
got it in and we're feeling you there, A love it.
He'd be out there the whole time, cigar. He'll have
himself a little drink, some good victuals and he'll be
cheering his ass off. And so that's a fan who
loves it just enough.

Speaker 6 (02:23:41):
Of a buzz to head into the stadium, you know,
because you want to be able to enjoy it. And
let's let's keep the fights at a minimum tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:23:47):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (02:23:47):
Let's let's make sure we don't do that. How about
how about I got a great idea. Leave the fights
on the field, the good ones that are we're kicking
your ass. Oh you're playing? Who knew? Yeah? I just
uh for me, It's like, let's just enjoy the game.
Yeah I have a great one, and go out there
and kick ass. Care more about the result on the
field than the than the than the punch in the
face in the in the stadium.

Speaker 6 (02:24:09):
Yeah, let's avoid those. Yeah, Sherry wants to win. And
good morning, Sherry.

Speaker 15 (02:24:14):
Yes, what's the games tonight?

Speaker 2 (02:24:18):
Huh?

Speaker 4 (02:24:20):
Is there a game tonight on the radio?

Speaker 2 (02:24:24):
Yeah? Are you talking about baseball? Game? Yes? Yeah, the
Astros play tonight. Uh on the radio? Yes, they call,
we'll start it. We'll start Astros on deck at six.
What do you got on the strodes.

Speaker 15 (02:24:40):
I'll go for the Astros and I go for the cakes.

Speaker 3 (02:24:43):
And I don't know, I hope we kicked the next king.

Speaker 6 (02:24:47):
There you go, lips God's ears. Sherry appreciate the call. No,
you know, look, I've done the prayers before and I
think I did it for all tub and I think
it worked. So you know, let's let's let's bring it.

Speaker 3 (02:25:01):
In a war.

Speaker 2 (02:25:02):
Yeah, okay, Well can you can you extend it? Yeah?
It's work for a day.

Speaker 6 (02:25:07):
Father, religious No, father son, Holy Spirit. Now you don't
have to take the hat off. Cap respect the Lord,
the Lord you can can you know hear you from there?
All right, dear Lord, we ask you know, we we
just we we've been asking for good weekends for a
long time, and we and we haven't really gotten the
good weekend all the way around. Can you give us
a good Monday today, a good Monday over at Dyke

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In Park, a good Monday over at NRG Stadium, and
then tomorrow morning we can come in here with a
little bit more pep in our stuff. In your name, Lord,
we pray humbly.

Speaker 2 (02:25:38):
Amen. Amen. That's that's what we asked for. That's all
we asked for, is you know it.

Speaker 6 (02:25:45):
Play indeed, you know, have the astros do it, and
and you're gonna have a lot of people checking their phones,
you know over there, Hey, what's happened? What's happening at
Dyke and you know, yeah, this game is happening as
as Larry said, Liberty wide out tonight.

Speaker 2 (02:25:58):
That's what it is. Yeah, that's it's called. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:26:00):
So so we're white at the game if you're going.

Speaker 6 (02:26:03):
And then you know, I'm guessing that probably the national
anthem was with it being a Monday night nationally televised game,
probably gonna be Clay Walker singing the national anthem.

Speaker 2 (02:26:12):
You know what, maybe I am a Boomer Jacks guy
tonight the new bar in uh in uh Katie. Okay,
right over there by the Tigers popstroke. They built a
brand new it. Maybe just make boomer jacks. Yeah, big
big facility TVs everywhere they get.

Speaker 7 (02:26:30):
They got the big tall beers. I'm sure they do. Yeah, towers,
I'm sure they do.

Speaker 2 (02:26:36):
I like back in the day when they had to
stay missed time, they had the keg at the table.
We're just charge your credit card. They still got those around. Yeah,
they do it someplace around like a high top with
but a booth. Yeah, you just serve yourself.

Speaker 6 (02:26:47):
And there's even been some places where you know, like
you reach a certain point and then the manager where
it says, hey, you got to see a manager, and
the manager's like, now you don't look drunk.

Speaker 2 (02:26:55):
All right? Here you go skin there cause you send
me you can. I drive by it all the time.
It's brand it's over there, it's big it. There's there's
more of those around, so I may have to say,
you know what, I don't I usually watch games at home,
maybe just maybe maybe just a little Vidal and game An,
let's go Texan has a good chance to get to
one on one them cult are playing pretty damn good
football and Davie, danel Jones change.

Speaker 6 (02:27:18):
The venue is pretty good. It's Indiana Jones. It's it's
working out well for him. So we'll see if Danny
Dimes can continue. But yes, Texans, let's go to one
and one.

Speaker 7 (02:27:27):
It's you're a.

Speaker 2 (02:27:28):
Frigging quarterback and show up and if you can't protect him,
clutch grab, do whatever you gotta do and lay off
the pre snap penalties. Go be, go, be what you
told us. You're going to be nasty upfront. Do that
on the offensive end. You'll get turnovers on defense.

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