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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salisbury sal okay, let's do this Sewan Salisbury.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Dan Matthewscus. This is the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Left hander delivers and that's a shot in the right
center field. The Astros are going to score here. RBI
single for Jeremy Paynya. He's two for two. We're tied
at one apiece. That's Payne on third, Correa on second.
It's a one to one ball game. Rogers delivers and
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this was hit high in the air toward the corner
right field. Jackson's over there and in fair territory, makes
the catch. Were out number three and that'll do it
for the Astros. And the third inn it pulled backhanded
by the third basement machine goes to second for the
Force and that'll do it for the Astros. Here in
the fourth edit, Arraghetty seventy third pitch got him strike three,
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stayed with it, got him on the cutter, and it's
another one.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Two three for rag Getty. He's retired ten in a
row to two. Duban hits this in the left right
at Beaver's playing toward left center and he makes the
catch to retire the side. Dubon hit it pretty well,
but the astrostranded couple. They get a run closer on
the sack fly by Caratini on two strike three call
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that was off the outside corner of the changeup, but
Panya gets wrung up. Achin strikes out the side of
the ninth and the Orioles avoid getting swept by the Astros.
Baltimore wins it three to two.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Oh man, this is why we can't have nice things
where you absolutely slug on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and then
you didn't put in the order for the slugging on Sunday,
and that's why you lose three to two, as you
just heard Robert Ford tell you. And with that, Sean
we say away we go in good morning here on
the Seawan Salisbury Show. Three out of four inc bad,
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but I mean that's one yesterday. That is kind of
the twenty twenty five Astros in a nutshell where you're
looking at the bats and saying, hey, guys, just.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
A little bit just we're not asking for seven runs here.
I'm not gonna get that greedy, though I am greedy.
But the fact that they came on Dana said, we're
gonna get hot. They did, and the bats. I'll tell
you what's let you down lately is starting pitching. Starting pitching.
I mean, Arraghetty was okay, he was okay, got you
into the wood with little rough at first, but then yeah,
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you settled in and he said, but he was all right.
Javier was not good. Mcclors. The best thing he did
in that game he walked a bunch. Again. The best
thing he did was get out of a basis loaded jam,
because that could have changed the entire course of that
baseball game. You know, he pitched hisself inflicted, pitched himself
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into it. But and you saw his frustration walking off
the mountain and when he you know, it was almost
like let's go or whatever I think it was. There
might have been a little f bom mixed in there,
but he uh to be able to pitch his way
out of a basis loaded jam was the to me,
the biggest key of the whole game, the biggest key
of the whole game, because who knows which way to
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gone then, But starting pitching has been a problem, and
dub it again over the week, did he It's just
he was not the Now I only I didn't see
him more than once over the weekend because I was
doing stuff too. I watched, you know, a smattering of
the games. I don't know how many appearances he got.
But was it Friday or Saturday? Where he again? Friday? Yeah,
it just it just it's not that's the one. I think.
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It's it's just something's missing. Well, you don't have to
worry about him anymore, I know, But but my point is,
is it all that time back that a guy we
counted on it just did it just didn't happen nap.
So that so I didn't miss anything after that with him,
did I? I mean on Friday, so I didn't know
if he'd had another appearance because I was like a
smattering of it in golf and running around and doing
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it all but and watching the game. But he was
and that was a body they desperately needed for the
time to get going, you know, to to rest a bullpen.
But he pitched his way out of the off a roster.
I mean, the results are are very much right there. Yeah,
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you literally pitched him an opportunity and pitched himself out
of a job. And so that was that was a
tough but a lot of things to like you saw
Walker's bat, I know, frustrated yesterday, but got going over
the weekend again the long ball. I would imagine now
tomorrow we get to see Yorda. I think it's time.
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Like I said last week, more than likely, I figured
that with the Monday day off that here would be
his start. But I still would have loved to I
don't know, man, that's just me. I don't know what
the difference between one day is the light of not
but I think probably the bring him home. Everything's going well,
you know, or we need him in the lineup, and
the crowd's going to go Tommy Fleetwood crazy on Tuesday.
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So all in all was good. And listen, I'm not
the reason why I'm not going to be overly greedy,
even though I am all the time with runs. Consider
where you were and what you needed and what you
got one day that Baltimore gets them, okay, But they
elevated their bats as Dana Brown said they would on Wednesday.
He literally said this is what's going to happen, and
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he was spot on. Over the weekend for the most part,
he was. But starting pitching has got to get better,
it does, I know. Once again, We could talk about
grinding out five innings, but if you grind out five
innings and you've given up five runs or four runs
or six runs, it becomes a problem. You grind out
all you want. Eating innings is important, but if you're
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eating innings but you're still giving up and it's still
seven to five ball game, I mean, that's too much
in two innings or three innings. So starting pitching's got
to pitch better. It just really does. You don't want
to keep putting a bullpen because then you're gonna need
what you want seven eight runs a game, which is
it's impossible to sustain for the best hitting team in baseball,
let alone a team that's been you know, on the
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on the south side of being at you know, in
the middle of the of the pack hitting baseballs this year.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Well, I mean you took the words right out of
my mouth with that s word sustain, because it is
not sustainable the way that they're pitching right now. Because
this lineup's not good enough to be able to slug
your way out of it.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
This weekend was a little bit of an anomaly because
you actually did hit long balls, and not only did
you hit home runs hit right, I mean, and you
also hit them with runners on base. So that was
something that was a site for sore eyes.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
With this team you put there, think about what you
do to the other staff, Think what you do the
other hitters, right, and the desperation that now becomes what
we've seen a lot here this year of And it
was flip flopped all right. The larm ball was there,
and they were I mean, they were something they've needed.
And as much as small ball is important and getting
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moving runners over and getting people in position to score
solo home runs, if you're giving up seven or eight
runs become a problem. But I was actually pleased. When
I say pleased, not they're trying to please me, but
from my eyesight, I was pretty pleased with what I
saw most of the weekend. I really was. With the bats. Now,
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you just got to get the bats doing their thing
and the piss starting everything working at once for twenty
five or thirty games left to go, thirty games whatever
it is, low thirties and take care of your business. Seattle.
What they got down with two games yesterday with a win.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
So, like I said, I always believe from beginning to
end that it's going to come down to one series
or two series at the most to decide this division.
And obviously the wild Cards a big player in this
as well.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Well you get them bit later next month too, And
I mean that's going to be the series that decides this.
As you just said, I mean, where you're two games
up at the moment, and I mean that's what kind
of hurts about yesterday is you feel like, you know,
just that one base hit there. I mean again, like
I said, Sean, I wasn't asking for seven runs, but
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three for eleven with runners in scoring position?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
How many times this year?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
And I mean, you know it's something else that somebody
brought up on Twitter about Cam Smith.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I mean, Sean, this is not getting better.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
And I mean you can try to, you know, give
him days off here and yeah, he's tired. All of
this is that bats have gotten progressively worse as the
season has gone on.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I'm shocked by his I guess shock shouldn't be the
right word. He's a rookie. I'm actually taken a little
bit of back by his falloff. Maybe this is what
we should have expected as opposed to you know how
I felt about him coming I spin there's no way
you can keep him on the raw. He had to start.
He played too well, not too and I think he's
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going to be Listen, we're not judging his career by
one year. He had a great start. It is tapered off.
If it is simply a long season and that's what
happens in a long season, well then it just it
just validates what everybody says about rookies. But it's a
completely different optic. And look, I mean it really is.
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With his game. I love him. I think he's going
to be a great player, but it is a it's
been a problem, and he does not he looks like
a struggling rookie. He does. He looks like a laboring,
struggling rookie trying to tinker and find any way he
can to get it going. Now, that'll that'll add to
his mental toughness as he rolls along, and if it's
done right, it'll be a real big benefit to his career.
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We see it all the time. We see it all
if you're a guy that wilts because you had this
type of thing, and I don't think he's that guy.
But if you are, guess what happens then when you're
really really tested, it becomes a problem. And so this
is it is a long season. But if that's the case,
it's showing on him because he really is in truth,
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is your best nine right now? He's not one of them. No,
And like I said, wholeheartedly believe in him, and I'm
all for this, and I love the fact that they've
continued to let him fight through it though you know
how I am about that. Well, we're not going to
send him down now. It's getting to the point where
you're like, there's some at this stage, you're not going
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anywhere at this stage of the season because your bodies
and you're going to need him. But knowing that he
has got to perform unlike a rookie, he looks like
a laboring rookie that you'd say, long way to go.
It looks I mean, he set the bar higher at
the beginning because he was so dynamic. Right It almost
feels like when you know when you're struggling, some of
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that dynamic is taken out of you because your mind
is that energy and the rest that goes with it.
Like I said, it'll end up benefiting him over the
long haul. It will, but right now he Uh, the
struggle is not just real the struggles, it's he he
looks like a guy that you say, why are you
playing him today? He does at times. Wow. I mean
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and I don't mean that bad, but it's it's it's
it's it's true right at the plate well.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I mean, and who would have ever guessed offensively, we
would be pining and begging for Jake Myers to come back,
because I mean, that's You've got a massive hole in
center field right now. It doesn't matter if it's Chas,
it doesn't matter if it's Jacob Melton, I mean, either
of those guys. You have him in the lineup, You're
like not feeling good about this.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Offensively, yeah, you're not counting on him at the plate
right now? Zero fact zero yeah, zero right, which which
just adds more pressure to the rest of the lineup.
But all in all, it was a Dana hit the
hit it on the head for the weekend, their bats
awoke and now we'll see with the ord On in
the lineup. I would imagine sometime this week, hopefully by
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tomorrow with the day off today, that he'll be in
the lineup and be able to do what Dana expects
him to and what we expect him to and what
he's done many times is load him up and make
the lineup it not only extended, but far better and
far more explosive. Your lips to God's ears.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Hopefully we do see number forty four back in the
lineup tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
You want to join us this morning?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety again
seven one three, two one two five seven ninety. Kind
of beating up on the bats for the weekend performance,
But what about giving them their kudos too? We'll do
that right here as we're just getting going on a
Monday edition Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talks seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Sales GREA. That's goodiful.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
I mentioned it over the weekend, three out of four
from the Orioles, not yesterday with standing, but the astros
able for the most parts with shaky pitching as we
talked about, and for the most part on the starting
pitching side, because you get on Thursday, I mean that
was probably. Yeah, Thursday and yesterday were the best starting
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pitching performances you had. I mean, Eric Getty does give
up the go ahead run and he takes the tough
luck loss, but you get five and a third out
of Jason Alexander. Then you get what three innings out
of Lance I'm trying to remember exactly what you got
out of him.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
It wasn't great.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
And then you get Christian Hobvier who can't find the
strike zone, gives up the five run lead that he
was spotted and can't get out of the third inning.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Right, And like you said, Jason Alexander did his job earlier.
You know what was it, that was Thursday? Correct? Yeah, So,
but starting pitching, he's going to have to ramp it
up and they're gonna have to get more. And the hitting, obviously,
if you can pound out more runs in one or
two regularly and become a little more of fit at
that and driving the baseball, it's gonna be a fun run.
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But you also remember, even if you're even if you're not,
if you're if you're swinging the bat well and those
guys are grinding, you're giving a guy two extra innings
because well, you got a six run lead, and even
though he's not going good, he's scattering hits and struggling
a little bit, he keep them in that that's not
the optic you want heading down the stretch, right, because
eventually the bats can cool off against good pitching. And
if you're and if you're against other teams good pitching,
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and if your pitching isn't going so well, then then
it gets Then we'll be sitting here for twenty games saying, damn,
hitting finally started late in the season. Can we get
starting pitching because we've got a tax the bullpen? Now
what are we going to do? And you listen to Steve,
and I know Steve sparks beyond today, but he's he's
never gonna say, for the most part, when he gets
to well, who do you need? Is rested as anybody.
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Steve ain't going to say the second baseman. You're going
to talk about it. He's talked about it all the time,
getting guys like al Tuovay rest But it's the key
is making sure when those guys get up out of
the bullpen that their legs aren't wobbling when they walk
to warm up in the in the you know, getting
their relief pitch, their warm up pitches in before they
go out there, and that their arms not frigging shot
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because they just mean, you can't go three days in
a row. But you're you know what I'm saying right
to the point, you can but that grind of at
this stage of the game, you'd like to, you know,
have a little bit where you don't see them the
majority of them for a game or two. That would
be nice. So that's that's where you're at. But they're
gonna both have to match pitching and hitting at this time.
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It'll be nice to see them both come together. Two
were all three phases, and I talk we know defense,
but we're pitching, relief, pitching and slugging. And then at
the plate, you're scoring runs, you're not giving up much.
Guys are getting the rest they need. This would be
a perfect time to get fully healthy everywhere and build
it to the right crescendo to where it's like everything's
rolling and we go into the postseas. It's not just
getting See that's the thing. I'm not just thinking about, Okay,
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what it's gonna take to get to the postseason. They
may be because that's there. They got to play a
game to game. We can we could speculate and put
futures looks on it and everything. You're going to have
to obviously do all these things more consistent and better
in the postseason, or it will be a quick exit.
But you can say that about any team. The difference
here is some teams that are at the top of
their division have sustained plate I means sustain their work
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at the plate a little bit longer this year, you know.
And we know Seattle's capable of driving balls out of
Yellowstone with the way they're what's rally up to forty
nine home runs now, two of them yesterday. Yeah, so
it's this is going to be a great run. But
they're hopefully as Dane like say, hitting on all cylinders
by the time they get there, and all cylinders is
also fresh, which would be important, which is why you'd
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like to have a had bit of cushion with six
to eight games to go, so you could milk out
a couple, you know, milk milk them for a couple
of for a hitter or a pitcher at every day
player that can sit out one or miss a start,
like we mentioned a Hunter Brown where it's like, okay,
well you're good. Now he gets to go in and
he's he's got a bunch of rests before he opens
up the playoff series against whoever it is, and as
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the way it looks now, the way they're pitching, he's
the guy that would do it. In my mind. No,
he definitely would be Game one for you.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
I don't think there's any question about that, because I
mean we've talked about a numerous times.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
You can't count on fromber right now.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
The last five starts have been as bad as you've
seen him, probably even going back to the start of
his career. But I mean you mentioned about the hitting
over the weekend, and it was fantastic for you. Seven
runs on Thursday, ten runs on Friday, nine runs on Saturday,
and you needed all nine of those runs, and I
mean even you kind of had to grind it out
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on Friday too. I mean where I mentioned about Lance
McCullers Junior not being able to give you much length
in his start, and then yesterday was when you kind
of ran into the stealemate. As I mentioned, three for
eleven with runners in scoring position. That spells out twenty
eight runs over the weekend. You score twenty eight runs
in the series, you're probably finishing it off the way
that you did, which is winning three out of four.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
The key you want to win them all but win series.
Just win series, and you'll be in position. But well,
you know that Seattle is going to get hot at
some point too. Well they're playing I mean by winning yesterday,
and after all what we've seen, all these games were
there within two and they've got good pitching, they would
they have more power than this team does, at least
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you know, without Jordan on the line. If their power
is more a little bit more prodigious than this team is. Now,
it's going to come down to how you carve them
out if he comes head to head. For me, I'll
take the Astros because I think their guts have proven
in these situations that they're But this is a new
team in a new year with some of the old
rappers on it, which is a good thing it is.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
And I mean jose Al Tuvey, he's gone through some
of his struggles at times.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
But what was it.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
God, I thought that he had a couple of hits yesterday.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
No day before? He did? Yeah, day before?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
So it was Saturday night, right, Okay, Yeah, a little
bit of a rough performance out of him. But I
mean you get Pegne, you get Korea, and then Walker
who actually have a good weekend. But I mean a
couple of spots yesterday. And that's the thing too, is
it just seems like that it's always a crucial spot
in the game and a runner on third base and
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he it's almost to the point now where I know
how his that bat's gonna go. He swings over an
outside breaking ball and you're like, all right, that's it,
he's cooked.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
He's done.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
And then maybe he fouls off the next one and
it's just like, yeah, this this isn't gonna go well.
And then sure enough, strike three. Thanks appreciate it. Did
he homer Friday?
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (19:31):
He did? And he homered Saturday? Correct, and Thursday, That's
what I'm saying. Did they win them all? Yeah? And
then yesterday he did not homer Bingo right, what did
Biscuits say? What he called Friday? He said, Christian Walker.
Christian Walker homers He or a yan ord is either
homer in a game or both the team usually wins.
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And guess what, he homer and three of them they won,
three of them didn't homer in the fourth one. Either
one of them didn't homer in the fourth Christian way,
and he is homer over the weekend too? Was a Friday?
I think he hit one on Friday, was it Thursday? Thursday? Thursday?
But I don't know if that's true all the time.
But in this series, when Biscuits said slugging the ball
and getting the middle of your lineup walker Homer's three
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of the four games, they win three of the four games.
The one game he doesn't Homer or y has done Homer,
they get beat. That goes back to that middle of
your lineup being able to drive runs and hit the
ball out of the ballpark at the right time. And
then the the irritation part is at the wrong time
when you're got a guy in running scoring position hit
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you know, you chase the ball that's popped up or
something silly right that drives him nuts. Those are the
ones driving nuts. But overall, from what we saw day
a week ago, you have got to be pleased with
what you saw over the weekend, at least from Thursday
on about these and we talked about it Friday here,
but Friday and Saturday that the bats were alive and well,
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which was good, which we've been waiting on. Now. The
sustained part of it's going to be important, no question
about it.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
It is, I mean, and also too at the bottom
of the order. You've got to be able to try
to find some sort of production out of that group.
I mean, Dubond gives you some, but I mean we
talked about it in the first segment. Cam Smith and
the combination of either Jacob Melton or Chas McCormick just
nothing like this paints me to say soon enough needs
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to be the end of the line for Chaz. Offensively,
he's just he's not going to be what he was
in twenty.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Two and ters. The question I have is why he's
not old? Why what happened? What happened? May I mean
because that year, I don't know if it was just
I mean, I'm looking maybe somebody who's got a little
more expertise at it. You know, who's a hitting instructor
for them, you know they're hitting coach and Alex or anybody.
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I don't know, maybe Steve Sparks knows. But you know,
we could talk about will you change this or reopened
his stance more it used to be closed. Well when
he closed his stance was closed two years ago and
he played it was it two years three, two years ago.
This is the third season where he had his not
last year before we had his big year, right, was
that his big year hitting the ball? Twenty three year? Right,
So yeah, twenty three and then some of twenty four
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up it was like not to say, and then this
year it's just saying he's not been good at the
plate consistently. And so I see, know we all watched
the closure, stance, open it more, you late, trying to
pull everything. He was at his best in twenty twenty
three and he sit in the ball to the right
side of second base, period and he was one of
the best on the team at doing it. And I
don't know. I mean, like I said, I'm not you
know when we say expert enough, we watch it, we
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see it. But as far as people around him in
a cage or why talking to him, those close to him,
you sat understanding, Okay, what is the difference? Is he
lacked confidence? Is his bat speed as he slowed down?
What the hell is going on here? But he's only
I mean, you're not worried about Chas McCormick in the
lineup if you're an opposing pitcher, And in twenty twenty
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three he were. He delivered time and time him again.
And to the point is when he came back the
next year. If you remember, everybody said this year, no
doubt he's your starter. And remember then it fluctuated. Hell,
even going into the year when Jake Myers got to start,
when it's like, well, you kept you kept asking, well,
why Chris chaz Is And you know what, Jake Myers
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now is a better hitter. And it's not real close
right now than if I had told you that two
years ago. You laughed and said, dude, you don't watch
any baseball, are you all right? But it's it's odd
to see because I root for the guy because I
think he's you know, he'll does a little bit of everything,
including pitch, which we don't want to see much because
that means that things aren't going well. But I just
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don't know what happened to the consistent bat with him
that was so good at pushing the ball the other
way with power, and something changed. And I don't know
if it's a mechanical flaw or if it's a confidence thing,
but there's something missing from him at the plate. I'm
not even sure he thinks he's going to drive the
ball when he gets in the batter's box, which is
a bummer for him. We've all been there, but this
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has been sustained for a few minutes now over the
last year and a half, two years.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Frustrating to see, that's for sure. You'd love to see
if you can get some sort of production out of him.
Here down the stretch, Stephen on the southwest side, see
you right there, Get you involved in the conversation.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
You want to join him?
Speaker 5 (24:15):
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Speaker 1 (24:25):
Had to wear the sewn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
If they're gonna go the way that they've done it
the last couple of years, it's gonna go all the
way to the deadline for them, and then they'll have
the deluge of here's the what thirty three or however
many cuts they have to make to go down from
ninety to fifty three. Whatever the math is for that,
you can figure that out on your own. But anyway,
that's what the Texans have. I had I was looking at.
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You know, you got to have a sense of humor.
Although it's tough, and I know it hurts but Ben Denucci,
who's been a quarterback in the NFL, well, he's had
cups of coffee at some places with the Cowboys as
a third string guy for a minute, is like like
seven different teams, if you know.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
But I love his grind. It's a hard sport, right,
really all of them are hard to be a pro.
But he shows he's at an airport and there's a
big picture of a beer on just poured into his
nice mug on tap and his glass, and he says,
not many beers better than the airport one. I just
got cut from the NFL for the seventh time. Beer.
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Trust me, you wouldn't understand. And I'm like, they wouldn't understand.
But you know, I love his grind, the sense of humor.
It's the beer. When you get cut, you're going to
the airport to fly home. That's what that beer is.
And he's and you know what, stay on the grind
until they force you out till you can't do it
and tell you or tell you don't love it. Right,
if you still love competing and somebody signs you, keep
doing it, keep trying to make their team, keep getting paid.
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If you love it now, if you finally said after
seven times, that's enough. I understand that as well. But
just the fact that he puts the beer up there
as big as the airport beer. It's that I just
got cut from an NFL team for the seventh time beer,
And I loved the sense of humor. How else because
the beatdown. And I'm sure he's been on teams where
he felt that he was better than the third string
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guy or the other guy, that he was trying to
be our second teamer right right, and just waiting for
that full opportunity. But I love his grind and you know,
you never know when that resiliency's going to pay off
for you. But he keeps getting signed. But if he
still loves it, do it until you've covered all thirty two.
If that's what you want to do, it's gonna say.
I mean, it worked for Ryan Fitzpatrick. Why wouldn't trying
to think who else out there? Then you play specialize
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in being in a journeyman. That's okay. It's the you know,
you go to Jamie Moyer pitch for a bunch of
teams in his career. I mean, and he was at
hell and had Rich Hill's had a hell of a career. Yeah,
and when you're pitching that long, hey, sometimes you got
to put your pride aside and go do your thing.
So good on Ben. I thought it was a really
clever tweet considering this time of year where for some
they'll never play again, some they'll never get the opportunity,
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and his approach to it was really engaging, man. And
it sucks because anybody that's been cut on a last
cut knows what he's going through. You see when we
say last cut that, and now they've changed it. You
used to have one cut where you're down from one
hundred to eighty five, and you're down to that and
the final cut what used to be there was like
seven spots left and you after the last preseason game,
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you're waiting. And anybody that's been there knows the when
coach says, hey, coach wants to see you, you know
that's a that's us that that and you think, man,
I know I've done enough to make it this team
this year, and you get that. That's not a fun
one man, And so good on Ben Denucci for is engaging,
you know, humor in light of a really tough situation
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when somebody looks at you and says you're not good
enough to play for me, even though you are. It's
just sometimes a numbers game. It can be a bummer,
but good on him.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
It's like I remember the season that the Cincinnati Bengals
were on hard Knocks and their turk's name, I still
remember his name, Jim Lippincott, and he wants to go
cut a guy and the guy was like, they say why,
He's like, oh, it's ability. It's like I would have
punched you in the face, Like like, what.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
The hell is that to say to someone? Yeah, to
look at the say so, it's just you're not talented, right,
I mean, well you signed, you have not time? Yeah,
lie to me, then tell me. Just a numbers game.
Touching in assault case on this guy makes more money
or you don't make you make too much money. And
we got a guy's see, we're gonna play the room.
We're going to keep the rookie who's who's making a
lot less? Whatever it is, Hey, talent, Yeah, just let's production,
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not enough reps or that's just unf what they usually use.
It's a numbers game. Sure, you know it's not dayless.
It's a numbers games, of course, yeah, right, But the
bottom line is that what you're basically telling me, he's
up fifty three other Cats were better than me, or
three at my position or five at my position, and
that's okay, But that I've always just said, like you
would with the recruit I I've always said, you're gonna
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go a lot further in the business, just being honest
with players. Players know, play players in the building. No,
and before we go to break and I know we're
gonna come back and hit a lot of baseball in
Texans as well. I'm one I've been on Wreckers saying,
you know, I don't care where you think should or
Sanders was going to get drafted. Stop with the he
should have been drafted in the first, the first pick
of the draft. People just stop it, just just frigging
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stop it. He's got some talent, he's got some limitations.
He had that first good preseason game, and so did
Jackson Dart and so did Shook and so did I
mean that happens, and so don't put him in a
Hall of Fame. After one preseason game when I saw
people say, yeah, he should have been drafted first out
of camelod you don't get drafted, then shouldn't stop The
thirty two owners got together and called up and said, hey, man,
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don't talk to the police. Just stop this. Can you
just stop it now and stop the after this preseason game.
It's yep, Coach the fancy called play so Joe so
fail and Dylan Gabriel would succeed. Stop it. Just stop
it from your from your basement or stop it. It's
a it's a It is such a poor, embarrassing look
for the people who say this. That doesn't mean should
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Sanders isn't a good player, doesn't mean he's not going
to be better than Dylan Gabriel, doesn't mean he's not
going to take the job from Joe. I don't know
what's going to happen with Shedeur Sanders, but there's a
reason he didn't get drafted, And the reason he didn't
draft in the first round was simply because they didn't
feel he was a good enough player. Now Tom Brady
drafted in six. Look how his career turned out. I'm
not saying he's Brady. You never know what the course
of the trajectory of your career is going to be, right,
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but would you plead with these people, would you would
you stop it? Because I can tell you this. I've
seen a million quarterbacks have the first preseason game that
Shedeur Sanders said a million, I was one of them.
Every single guy that's played, that's got an opportunity and
played more than one year or two years, fortunately ten.
We've had preseason games as a young player that we were
like you walk out of a scene. I was this
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was a good game, even though deep down you still
missthrows and made poor decisions but made a completion. Sure,
I'm just going to tell you this. If you took
his name, not that he's not good, but take away
the pomp and circumstance leading into the draft, the last
name and everything that surrounds it. And when you say
the people so oh you don't think he can play, Yes,
he can play. I don't know if he's going to
ever be a starting quarterback in the league, be a journeyman.
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Because I'm not there in camp. I know this that
I usually trust NFL players than the guy sitting in
his living room that watches on TV one game out
of eight. So no, no disrespect. It'd be the same
thing like me coming to you and saying, are you
coming to me? And saying, uh, some guy who played
in the third grade and come saying, well, Sean, I
know which we hear it all the time, Chip when
I talked Shawn, I know more about the position of you. No,
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you actually don't. But that's okay. You telling me that
would be like me going to Jeff Bezis and say, dude,
let me teach you how to make money. Okay, you
know it's the same thing, And it's the same thing here.
Don't insult. And that doesn't mean you don't know football.
Nobody said the person does know football, but you don't know.
You folks sitting in your living room at home right now,
do not know more football than Kevin Stefanski and the
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staff and the players. You just don't. And if your
job's on the line, you usually want to play your
best player. And the thought that after just should or
should be shot starting, No, he shouldn't. Matter of fact,
if you do that, then he'll get discovered quickly why
he shouldn't be, and you'll find yourself saying get his
ass out of the league. He's not ready, just like
a bunch of them.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Mart.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
But the thing I know about this this constant a
draft pick drafted this late. Who's really a third string
guy or a developmental guy on a roster right now,
in the history of football, nobody's ever got more attention
to this. And after I watched this, watch the response
to this preseason game. You go on there and you
see it's like the narrative is unreal. And the fact
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that I can tell you this name. If his name
was Schadur Jones, Schadure Michaels, Schadeur Stone, I'm just naming
Schadur Matthews after this preseason just just what you saw,
do you know, you'd say, man, hopefully he gets it.
Hopefully he gets picked up by somebody and gets a
chance on a practice squad, got some potential, or he's
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a third guy, developmental guy. That's all you'd say. You
wouldn't be talking about starter and should have been the
first picked. I'm just telling you. Unfortunately for him, the
expectations going in and he enhances it with his attitude.
You know, with this he likes the flare. I mean,
he's not a good guy. That's just how he's been.
He's been around it his whole life, as Pops has
had that. He's not his pops, but so I don't
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think she understands the bad guy. I just think there's
some things that he probably needs to focus in a
little bit. But I did broke down tape and stuff
after his first preseason game. He did some good things.
But the stuff that's surrounding the expectations, dude, he'd urinate
down is like if he had to go play in
the NFL, right, he's not ready. But the fact that
if his name was Shaudur Matthews right now, nobody'd be
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saying a word. They'd be saying yeah, they'd be saying,
you're we can hear you on the air, triple E,
you can't, I can't. Yeah, I can hear I tripley,
I can hear their Yeah. That's okay, Okay, well you're
good anyhow. So but my point is is that it's
unfair to the kid, and it's it's unfair to the kid,
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but it's also it's it's embarrassing that we are having
this conversation. So, well, if you should do it, should
be the starter, and he's earned it. What and Stefanski
put him in a bad position on purpose to play
third string quarterbacks in the preseason third or first string
quarter you know what they get. You get the third
string lineman. That's how you do, especially when you don't
have a chance of snowballs, chance in hell to be
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the starter. You get those guys in the last preseason
game and you're the third or fourth quarterback on the roster,
fourth because of Kenny Pickett. That that's the people you get.
We've all dealt with it. And if his last name
was Matthews, we would just say what about man, got
some potential. Maybe down the road he can be a player.
You wouldn't be having this argumentation, right, give the kid
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a break. But also this nonsense of well why is
he not playing with the first ringers because the first
ringers don't play in the fourth quarter of the third
quarter of a preseason game because they're resting because the
one got hurt. You know, he'd say, what the hell
is Andrew Berry and Stefanski doing play in the lineman,
Guchey should give Teller their first string tackle or guard.
Put him in there so we Wyatt Teller's in there
with shor No, he's a third or four string quarterback
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trying to make a team, not trying to start, trying
to make a friggin team. Don't be that friggin stupid people.
Oh I've said it. You don't know more than Kevin Stefanski. Sorry,
but you don't, no matter how much tape you watch
at home. Okay, it's ridiculous. And nor does the third
grade guy no more than Dan Orlofsky. Okay, the guy
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who played in Pop Warner or coaches elementary school football,
you don't know more. My favorite, that's my favorite. When
Chip Tipper like, yeah, great, you you led Little league
in hits when you were in twelve, but you know
how to hit better than Tom Jones.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Tell me, tell me how good you are in yourself. Yeah,
just just frigging stop it, grab a beer and shut up. Okay, Steven,
like Sean mentioned about getting back into the Astros conversation,
we'll get you on board here. You want to join them?
seOne three two on two five seven ninety, can it?
Sebone three two on two five seven ninety, Sewn Salisbury
Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues, and you know no, now
you know, was watching Tommy Fleetwood, who has handled this
his He's been like thirty sometimes in his career. He's
been the top five and not won it, and we've seen,
we've seen down the stretcher. He's been in position over
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the last month and a half to close out events
with leads three up, down to two to play and
have lost them late. Heartbreaking to a guy who's that
was almost as like one hundred and sixty fifth tournament
on the PGA. He's won in other tours in different
parts of the world. He just hasn't won as PGA
tour play and he's he's gonna be on the Ryder Cup.
He's always in the top ten on the money list.
(36:29):
He's a great player. He just have been able to
close it out. Dude, he's coming down the stretch. He's
got three stroke lead with two to go. I'm thinking,
don't let can't ley make and can't lay? Can't lay
still out there standing over his ball. By the way, dude,
do you talk about slow play A friggin enough? Okay,
Plus he goes to UCLA, so no shock there anyway,
or went to UCLA, but the hell of a player.
But I'm thinking for Fleetwood, please, dude, please do this.
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The crowd on an American soil, it was monstrous. All
the players are waiting around from there was no guy
on tour that people wanted to win more, almost to
a point where if you're Scotti Scheffler that didn't play
his best golf yesterday, you're like, no big deal man.
That guy deserved to win this tournament, right, And I
was so happy, so happy for Tommy Fleewood. He's handled
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losses and failures with dignity and grace and respect, gone
back to work, never made an excuse. And I'll be
damned if he didn't close out yesterday and in big fashion,
win in by three strokes. It was impressive. Loved it,
and I couldn't have been. I stood up in my
room cheering him.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Man.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
I couldn't have been more happy for a guy to
get that win. Plus he only made, not counting the
bonuses that are on his bag for the clubs he
plays at, all that other stuff when they have that
ten million in cash yesterday, man, ten million good on nice,
nice payday, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
So working out well for him, all right, So Steven Arthur,
we'll work you guys in to start the seven o'clock
hour as one to be able to hit it.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
So we'll do that.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Get back into the Astros conversation. Also some Texans and
Steve Spark's going to join us an hour from now
for his weekly visit. All of that here on a
Monday edition The Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 4 (38:46):
Isn't it always great when you're starting off at intuition
pays off. We're starting off at seven o'clock in the morning,
and this show get up, comes on and as my
lips as as like you said, when you say your
lips to God's ears. Yeah, guess what their lead story is,
God to Door Sanders Sabotage. Guess what, Sean, here's your payoff,
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ladies and gentleman. The only four string quarterback in history
to start as a rookie. I mean it's a rookie
and he got a chance that I said, I like
Schod Door centers. I think he does. I'll tell you
one thing. He is in the pocket, he's tough as hell,
He's took a lot of hits and delivered the football,
but he's not ready to play. It's not a big
big deal. And once again, so can you imagine Stefanski
did this put Shad door Sanders in and all of
(39:29):
a sudden he tells those four his five starters up front, Hey, guys,
get back in the game. Yeah, get back in the game. Well, why,
Coach Wood would would We wouldn't do that if Kenny
Pickett was coming in the in the in the third
or fourth quarter, or it's the last preseason game. I've
checked out, my pads are off. Put him back on. Why? Well,
because we got to make sure that our fourth string quarterback.
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That did we make sure that he gets to work
with the number ones in the final preseason game. No,
none of us did at that age as a rookie.
That's just stop it. And I'm a guy who's you
don't have to root for failure for Shador Sanders. To
be honest in his analysis, he played pretty damn good
inness one preseason game. He played okay this last one,
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but their mind was, man, this was just a formality
to get another guy in. Shador Sanders wasn't moving up
the depth chart. They drafted Dylan Gabriel ahead of him,
so of course he's gonna get more work. That's that
as a guy who's been in that league in that position,
the guy they draft and pay more is gonna get
more work and less. All of a sudden, that guy,
two guys get hurt and you get an opportunity. You
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play all the preseason games. It's like, damn, look what
we discovered and should remind up being a player right now.
Shadoor Sanders is a developmental type player that's got some potential.
But to sit here and talk about sabotaging him in
the last preseason game because they didn't give him number
ones are the same people that would have buried Stefanski
for asking the starting people to go back out on
the field and play with him, right, come on, man,
(40:56):
and then you.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
Know so course, then you can't forget about them going
ahead and doing the kiddie pool thing. These talking head
TV shows are the shallow end of the pool.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Well, I just want people to know that they're not
going to talk one ounce about the x's and o's
about this Shu or Sanders, So you know what they're
going to talk about. No, he did this sabotage. It's
this they don't like him. It's because it's like, can
we stop with this? Well, then of course you shouldn't
be leading your story or your show off with a
four string quarterback.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
That that is uh no, there they're leading it off
talking what they always talk. Oh, Michael Parsons and the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Yeah, will he suit up for game for for? Edwarder
told me last week he kind of five you need
five people on the set to talk this. Edwarder told
me that he kind of expects last week that you know,
a long time thirty year reporter in Dallas that he
that he thinks that he'll be in uniform playing, but
he won't have a new deal. Then that sounds logically
he's under contract. Yeah, and if they toy it too
much here what said, Jerry has all the leverage. Why
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I can disfranchise you, dude, If you want to sit out,
that's fine, you don't get paid, and I can franchise
tag you. It's it's a whether we like the fact
that he has a leverage or not. He's got all
the leverage. You can franchise tag him and he'll be
one of the highest paid players in the league, top
five at his position. But guess what it'll be for
a one year deal, and he won't get all and
there's no guaranteed signing bonus that you don't have to
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do anything extra. He's going to get the deal done
and Michael Parsons is not going to play for somebody
else this year. Just so you understand, Jerry will get this.
Jerry loves this stuff, friggin loves it. I don't know
if the deal will get done this week. But here's
the problem. As Ed Werder said, Michael Parsons, David Mullagetta,
his agent, and Jerry Jones up until as of Friday,
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they had not talk since March. Contract wise, Now think
it since March, all the pomp and circumstance. Right now,
you see Mike on the field talking to Jerry for
a second, but sports related, football related, and not talk
since March. That's what Ed said. It adds an insider.
So there you have it. Man, it's a but we're
leading with stuff of I understand the Parsons saying because
he's the difference maker and a game wrecker. But some
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of the things we choose to talk about, it's it's
a it's a borderline embarrassment.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Can't wait till they bring in Lebron and the Lakers too.
Somehow tell that'll they'll get weaved in today. Yeah, for sure,
someone three two, one, two, five seven ninety the number
to get in. Astros lose three to two yesterday to
the Orioles and take three out of four in Baltimore.
They're now two games up on the Mariners in the West.
Speaking of the Stros, that's where Steven wants to go
to get us going this morning. Good morning, Stephen, good morning.
Speaker 8 (43:27):
I love the show.
Speaker 9 (43:28):
I love the Astros. I've got a couple of points
to make. I agree with you, Val Smith, but he
is an excellent right field or as good as you
can get.
Speaker 8 (43:36):
Now.
Speaker 9 (43:37):
One thing I think about the Astros there, you know
that Jaymer they're paying this back to Silo eighty seven
million dollars. How much is jaymer Dine.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
The is worth now?
Speaker 9 (43:47):
I mean the guy in heavy's starting to throw out
base runners, and the acquisitions I made walk coming through.
He's got Karag's leading the team at hitting he's hitting
like three fifty since they got him. Rays is a
great sight and basement and Sanchez is a good left
handed hitter. Now yesterday was disappointed because now.
Speaker 10 (44:05):
Toby left them.
Speaker 9 (44:07):
You know, they guy the man on third base and
one out, they don't score him. They have a rookie
in and some one fifty hitter hits the whole run
and then and they you know, Aarraghetty had his best
out in the of the year as far as I'm concerned.
I mean, he had a rough first inning, but he
didn't give up the hit till the sixth inning again,
so it's a tough loss on his point. And Smith,
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I mean Walker, he just just hit the whole run
by an engine. He did even get him all of
the ball. So I think we're in pretty good shape.
When whenever we get the Jake and Parades and Alt
runs back on the same, you know, if they're around
in the playoffs, we're going to be hard to beat.
So everything looks pretty good to me. So that's all
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I've got to say. Gentlemen. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
I appreciate Steven. You're going to get two out of
those three. You're not going to get east sock pretis back.
I mean he was with the team last week when
they were in town, but I mean where at least
one of the opinions medically Sean was to opt for surgery.
And then I guess they got somebody who gave him
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enough of an opening to say, well, he could rehab
and maybe have a chance. But at this point, I mean,
you're not going to get him doing anything baseball related
that you feel like he's going to be in position
to be able to help you out.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
Will not be on the same field this year together now,
but you're don will You're you're not. But he's so right,
praidus was a we we now realize and I think
we understood it when he was here at the way
was playing, but we realized how an important part of
this team he actually was at the plate phenomenal he
really was. What a great get it'd be he'd be.
He'd be a big difference maker if he was in
this lineup right now. Boy. And that's the thing too.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
As I mentioned last week, I mean, you sorely missed
him for the longest time, and I'd probably say that
this weekend was the first time that I think this
lineup actually looked capable without him, because for the longest
time since he got hurt, that group had really struggled
without him in there. For the at bats, he would
give you just the you know, seeing seven eight pitches
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in that bat taking it. I mean it was almost
any single time you could just put him in the
box with a three to two count and you know
he was going to at least give you some sort
of a valuable plate appearance, either a walk. You know,
maybe he makes it out, but still he saw a
lot of pitches.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
And it's even when you said they would you say
not serviceable? Would you call the lineup you said they
became capable. I would even say formidable on Friday and Saturday. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. So you're exactly right, and
they are capable. The key is taking that capability and
matching it with all that with the production, which they
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did Friday and Saturday. And you know, you face good pitching,
it's going to get in your way a little bit.
But I thought they were really really good over the
weekend for sure. Someone three two one two music in
your No, okay, no, it's weird. I don't know what's
I got an alien in my in my ear. I
was gonna say, yeah, I think I think you got
a ghost or something over there. Yeah, I don't know.
(47:06):
It's a trip, man. Yeah, it's weird. Maybe it's just you. No,
it isn't, it's I'm not. I'm not guessing because the
Triple Leaven got here. It's just there's music in your ear. So, yeah,
who's that person next to you?
Speaker 6 (47:16):
See?
Speaker 4 (47:16):
I just heard that again there? Yeah I did. There
you go. It's a trip people, It's not an inside joke,
because it may be. It's a trip. Yeah, technology's going
haywired aliens are there.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
There's somebody who's about to get off the loop at
Ella and they're like, the hell's he talking about?
Speaker 4 (47:31):
Yeah, Shawna, you okay this morning? Not yeah, I'm fine.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Somebody right now, somebody somebody driving over to you know,
Waltrip High School right there, and they're like, the hell
is Sean talking about?
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Speaking of do yourself a favor. Look at the new
high school that they built in Frisco Tech in Frisco,
Texas up there near the Pallas Just go and look
at the the look at the pig there show video. Dude,
it is going to boggle your mind. Just look at
say new what's the new high school in Frisco? Google
it during the break and you folks at home and
you want to see what these kids, Man, these kids
(48:03):
need but need more. You see, It's it's like they're there.
The u c l A was plopped in the middle
of Frisco, Texas and then some The technology is crazy.
Go check that out. Speaking to schools we got Arthur
wants to talk a little football. That's it here he is,
Arthur in Spring wants to weigh in. Good morning, Arthur, good.
Speaker 8 (48:21):
Morning, Good morning man son. I'm a hold my composer, man.
I I thought I'd never feel this way about you, man,
but you know you begining to sound like Matt Thomas.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Well wait a minute, about about about what? Well, well,
let me ask you this because Arthur, look, let's be
honest about this. If you've never listened or watched me
and I did I do another show, the National Show that,
unlike everybody else, I've broke it down. Senor Sanders played
good football in the first preseason game. Are you is
this a race thing for you? Or do you think
you know more football than I do? Because unfortunately for you,
(48:57):
and I like you. You've come around from being from
the label that people gave you when you called in
here that we give you a chance to fix, and
now you're going. But I can tell you this, you
don't have any idea if it comes to Shooters. Sanders
performed about breaking him down like I do. You just
don't and you never will. So becoming like him, I said,
the kid's got a chance to be a good player.
If you think he should be starting, you're out of
(49:20):
your mind. Secondly, I looked at you know, he played
in the third and fourth quarter. Find me another preseason
quarterback that's the fourth quarterback on the roster, fourth quarterback
on the roster that gets to play with the first
teamers in the last preseason game in the fourth quarter.
You find me him. And when you do, you and
I have a conversation. He says, Yep, that's fair. What
in the world did he do that would warrant him
(49:41):
from getting the first teamers in the second half of
the last preseason game. No, whether it's him or Harry
hatch As has not to do. And you're going to
make it about the color of his skin, which you know,
damn well, don't embarrass yourself by coming on here talk
color of skin when it comes to me. Ever, that's
the last thing, because you've done it everywhere else. You've
done it.
Speaker 8 (50:00):
What you're talking about, you're not even letting me told.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Well, because we've heard you before.
Speaker 8 (50:04):
You you're insinuating, and you're speculating as to what you
think about what you've said.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
Think about what you said. This is my show, not your,
So you're gonna listen or hang up. You're you're a guest.
You're not a guest, you're a caller. I can mute again. No,
I'm not spect I've heard you've come on this show
before in the past, and i've heard if it was
a you've made it a black and white issue forty
seven times, and we've given you the op you have
given you. No, you make it a black and white issue.
(50:33):
If somebody eat angel food cake and not chocolate cake,
you're piss because you think they're racist. So shut your
mouth for a second if you want to get your
chance to talk. Okay, you're laughing, you're laughing over here,
but here, No, this is my show, not yours. All
over I'm supposed to get paid to talk for four
hours you're you're a guest. Uh no, you're a caller.
I've given you opportunity. Matter of fact, we weren't going
(50:55):
to put you on. As you see, whose show is it?
Speaker 6 (50:59):
You're her mine?
Speaker 4 (51:01):
Okay, I'm not doing it. Put him on mute. Shut
him up for a second. Put him on mute. Here's
what I do know about him. He's done this a
million times. I told you this during the break. I
even asked tripley, is this the race call or a
legitimate call? Oh, I think it's a legitimate call, which
we all did, so we put him on. He's I've
seen this movie on this show before. It doesn't matter.
He trapes that way. And that's why Jump. Well, you
(51:23):
didn't give me a chance to talk. Now, why else
would you be calling? He said? And here's what he said, Well,
Sean man Camp, I've never thought i'd feel like this
you before. This is what he says on the show.
And he's talking about a football player not getting reps.
He's taking it personal. I would say it about I
wouldn't have done done the same thing. If you're the
(51:44):
fourth quarterback of the third quarterback of the team, you
ain't getting reps with the first team in the last
preseason game. I'm just sorry you're not. We got to
get ready for our season and I got to keep
my guys healthy. It wouldn't matter if it was Jackson Dart,
it wouldn't matter if we shoot it. And I've said
it on here as much a million times, and I
lived it. I was the guy when I a rookie
who had to take snaps with the third train guys
as the quarterback playing in the fourth quarter. I was
(52:05):
the guy. And we've performed my ass off as a rookie,
performed my ass off as a rookie trying to and
I had to. There are six quarterbacks on the roster
and I was not drafted because I'd blown out my
knee twice, so bo had I had to play great
every day in preseason. Now, I wasn't a great player
at the time, and I was not ready to play.
Even though I had an out of my mind preseason
(52:26):
which I had to have to play, I still had
to play with second, third guy string guys. So yeah,
Arthur doesn't give as a matter of fact, that tell
Arthur wants to come on here and talk normal because
I knew it was coming. Because I've heard this movie before,
and I'm the one during all this who told Arthur,
bring Arthur back and allow him before you got on
the show, and allow him back in to try and
(52:46):
prove his point that he's just not calling to say this, Arthur,
for you to even trapes there is ridiculous, and you
will never get on this show again unless you come
on normal, respectful and without without this thing point. I
never thought, well, Arthur, I never thought you'd come on
here start talking quarterback play. That's so far above your head.
You're drowning. We're going to break. If you want to hold,
(53:09):
you hold, I'll decide when you get back on the air.
In the meantime, I'll put fifteen others on and they'll
be mixed races and colors. Arthur. Oh, they'll be from
the Mexican in black and white community, and none of
them we'll worry about Shador Sanders being the fourth quarterback
and getting extra snaps. It happens all over the country
with every one of us. Yeah, Sewn Salisbury Show, Sports
(53:32):
Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 8 (53:38):
And it no no now you know.
Speaker 4 (53:45):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there?
Speaker 11 (53:47):
Now the Salsbury takeout, Salsbury's takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4 (53:59):
Real quick, Dan, Now we turn on the TV and
I will turn the sound up. Dan Orlowski, who is
a football guy, turns on the tape and I'm thinking,
please break this down properly, and they're leading with Shador Sanders,
and he's exactly right. He went through the second half
tape this past weekend and Shadeur Sanders ran himself into
trouble he had and Dan's breaking down standing the guy
(54:20):
is sitting right there in front of you, throwing the ball,
throw the ball away, broken down as a football and
Dan likes. I think Dan has some affinity for Shudeur Sanders.
I think just like in the first game that they
played the preseason, he liked some of the things he did,
as did I. My whole thing is not Shade Sanders.
It's we're talking about a fourth or fifth string guy,
fourth string quarterback right now, or a third string guy
that just doesn't get the fact that they're saying they
(54:42):
sabotaged him is fair. He was drafted after Dylan Gabriel.
Kenny Pickett is a veteran there. I mean, hell, the
guy behind him can make the argument. Tyler Huntley, who
led the winning drive this past weekend and just got cut.
The man don't know. I'm a veteran in the league,
don't I have some say about this. Who's been a
good player as he was a Baltimore backup. He's in
Miami as well, but he was in Baltimore. He won
some game, he won some games for Baltimore, did did hotly.
(55:07):
So my point is this has nothing to do It's
just the fact that right now, if Shedeur Sanders was
at shaduor Sanders, he'd be getting the pub that all
of us third stringers got. When we first broke in
the league. The award first round picks, we didn't get
much action with the first groups. It's normal, especially for
a guy who was drafted that late. He's just not
going to get the work. Now if he's a first
round pick and he wasn't getting getting hammered around, different story.
(55:28):
But he's the guy that you go in and mop up,
like every backup or third string quarterback did this this fall,
I mean this last preseason game. That's just the way
it works.
Speaker 6 (55:38):
Man.
Speaker 4 (55:38):
You don't get to work with the number ones in
the fourth quarter of the last preseason game. So the
sabotage that the Browns are sabotage in s Shedeur Sanders
is an embarrassment. But I'm one that believes Shoeddear Sanders
can be a player. I don't care. I think he's
got great energy.
Speaker 11 (55:50):
I do.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
I like the kid, but we got to stop putt
him in the Hall of Fame after one game. People
saying he should have been the starter. No, he's not ready,
just like Dylan Gabriel is not ready to be the starter.
And Gabriel just had two games a little bit better,
the second one better than should Sanders did. No big deal.
But he was also drafted in front. He's gonna get
more looks. That's just the nature of the Beast. So
(56:11):
it's the way we do this. It's ridiculous. Should Sanders
has got a chance to be okay in the future
and a chance to be good, but it's going to
take a minute, just like it is for most third
string four string quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (56:23):
Yeah, coaches are not in the business of turning away
good quarterback play.
Speaker 4 (56:27):
No they're not. If they are, they're not, they're not
having They won't have a job for long. Right, it's
just silly. You just if you you don't have Tony
and I can't stand when people root for Shoudur Sanders
to fail because of his last name or because he's
a little bit more flashy. If you listen to him talk,
the guy's a good kid man. He really is. Maybe
(56:47):
probably you know the pre draft stuff where he's got
all the dollar signs, that's okay, doesn't make him a
bad guy, and it also doesn't make him a Hall
of Famer. Give the kid a chance to actually develop
in the league and he's making decisions. I can guarantee
I've been there when you're watching that you're getting hit,
you're not throwing the ball on time, and it all
goes down here and you're like, I don't even know
what to expect, Right, this is just happens to everybody.
(57:08):
It happened to Tyler Huntley, and Huntley's been a veteran
in the league. So it's just silly. We've got a
narrative that it's not right in this situation with him.
Let the kid learn he's not ready to play. Neither
is Dylan Gabriel. But Gabriel is going to get a
quicker look because he was drafted higher, and he's played
decent in the preseason.
Speaker 5 (57:25):
Situations like this, Sean, it reminds me of especially on
social media, which I'll steal a line from Rossville Reale.
It's an ocean of stupidity. Is I think that people
either one unintentionally probably I'll give you a little bit
of a benefit of the doubt, want to be stupid
because it's easy to be stupid, and the other one
(57:46):
is to be surprised. There's people who frankly should know
better saying some things on social media that I'm like,
have you even been around this league?
Speaker 11 (57:55):
Like?
Speaker 4 (57:56):
Have you even really covered this league to understand how
this thing works? I just to me, I give everybody
an opportunity to voice there if I do, and I'll
listen to people I should not listen to at times
I should. Well, I'll give people a platform my mind
that I'll say, I'll answer this question on social media,
although I shouldn't because I know the direction that person's going.
(58:16):
But just stop it. Arthur doesn't know more than Kevin
Stefanski or you or me. Okay, sorry to tell him that.
It just doesn't when it comes to this. But if
he wants to come on here. The reason why because
you know, we know what nickname he's carried around because
he does that. And he's been on Matt Thomas forever
for no reason, Okay, because he just doesn't like him.
But to come on and say, man, I never thought
i'd feel this way about you. What because my football
(58:39):
opinion is different than yours. I know the direction he
was going because he goes there. But he's over the
last ten times he's called, he's actually gone in a
better direction, but this one, and we know why because
that's who he's been so until he proves over history.
So that's it. He come back on to talk. But
if he wants to come on a talk and tell
me what makes Shador a great player right now, I'll listen.
If he wants to come on and give me some
(59:00):
stupid narrative, I don't have time to listen to the
nonsense anymore. And I'm not giving callers that don't have
a clue, or that have a clue but go somewhere
down a rabbit hole that they don't want to get
the hole shut up on them. I'm not doing that anymore.
I'm not wasting four hours on the show for a
lazy narrative that goes around the country that's embarrassing not
doing it, not doing it, and guess what, I don't
(59:22):
have to neither do you. Okay, but when we have ya,
it's we put all. Nobody gives more respect to callers
in this city, in the country for than we do.
But when you, when you jump over it, then guess
what You're going to get treated exactly the way you
treat it. I assure you I've been I've been a
kinder jettler, Sean something on the show I got news
(59:43):
for you. Don't push me to that because it will
not be fun. Okay, you want to do that. We
can have this battle all friggin day because they think
I'm afraid to be well, Sean was mean today, Well
get in line. Okay, you haven't seen the prick and
me that you'll see if you keep on pushing this
stupid narrative that goes around society for every single thing
we do. And I'm sick of it. I am actually
sick of every single time race, religion, gender politics that
(01:00:06):
everybody has a narrative on that I don't. But if
you want to go there, I will bury your ass
on this show fair warning period. Well, at least you're
not Avery Johnson's dad or brother either, because for people
that fight at stadiums and in stadiums, that situation now.
But you're looking at like at the there was a
baseball game over that would no, Well, football get packers bears.
(01:00:28):
I mean, guys are getting played. They're beating the hell
out of each other, a presedon game in the stands.
Football is not sports. Isn't that important. I don't like
sports enough to fight to fist fight somebody in the stands.
I just don't. Hell, I don't even like sports enough
to battle on where you're getting an all out argument
over a dog on phone call. I don't like sports
that much for that either. Banter and good energy is
(01:00:51):
great past the point in my career where I got
to fight with somebody, Oh I got to prove that,
I got to prove anything, okay, other than I'm working
hard and going to be here. But I refuse. I
will not let anybody traps on the stupidity anymore at
any point in time. If you come on with that,
with that a lazy narrative, you're gonna get treated just
like that. Off, done and gone. Period. And if you
(01:01:13):
got a problem with it, this studio is right here.
You come on and we'll have a good banter conversation person,
so we can get past the lazy narratives. Just come
with something that actually fits. Okay, and that ain't it?
Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
Sorry, Well, usually they say the low man wins. Usually
in those stadium fights, it's the other way around. It's
if you got the upper upper position, you've got the
upper hand. Literally, who fights at a preseason game in
the stands?
Speaker 6 (01:01:38):
Dude?
Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Booze obviously yez. I never thought it'd be against it,
but you get to place like if people can most
people are really good, but you'll get that two percent
they got to fight in the stands while their wives
or girlfriends or kids are there. It's like, are you guys,
this stupid over the dumb ass preseason even if it's
a regular season game. I don't love football or sports
enough to fistfight the person sitting next to me over
(01:01:59):
a over a game against a rival. Ever, now I
quit sports, beer, quit talking about it. If I had
to fight every time you went to work, can you
imagine that misery? It would not be fun.
Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
It'd be a lot of bruises, and bruises. No good
to have John and Neidville see you right there. We'll
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Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
John Innaedville wants to weigh in. John. Good morning man.
Speaker 8 (01:03:50):
Look, I'm o key, just short, sweet and simple hearty
your I'm not gonna call names. I'm not gonna go
to your level, but you set the station back fifty years. Man.
Have you watched the man play football? He's what it
was against Caroline, I believe was this first game. He
was playing against the twos and the threes, and he's
(01:04:11):
acting like he's playing against all pros out there yesterday
or whenever he played the Rams. He's playing against the twos, threes,
and fours. He can't even hold on to the dead
gun ball. He was given a raw deal because of
his daddy. He was believed to believe the hype We're
gonna retire your number at Colorado. He's got such an
(01:04:35):
uphill battle. He needs to learn more of the game.
He is another Cleveland quarterback that goes out there and
tries to play backyard football. You cannot do that in
the NFL. I think, like Sean said, the coach has
(01:04:57):
just a little bit more insight on what goes on
in practice and in pregaming on tape than what Arthur
does about how Schador Sanders plays. Might know just a
little bit more. Just as I've always said on this show,
a spotter knows a little bit more about baseball. As
much as I don't agree with Dana Brown's takes, he
(01:05:20):
knows more about baseball than all of us. That's why
we're fans, just as Nick and Domico does with the Texans.
But for him to come on here, dude, it's twenty
twenty five. It's not twenty twenty no more nineteen. Dude.
Quit that's your favorite thing to do is throw the
(01:05:42):
race card. Quit man, it's tiresome, it's stupid. It's idiotic, man,
And just for him to sit there and to say that,
and just like people saying they're sabotaging his career. Dude,
he wasn't that good in college. He's a great Yeah. Absolutely,
(01:06:04):
I watched him when he was with You know, my
son grew up at the same age as he was
and watching his little high school you or whatever the
hell it was called. We'd have to watch it here
at the house too. But that's where it's just the
guy's given a rology. I don't know, man, I'm just
I'm just dumbfound that people are still calling sports talk
(01:06:26):
radio shows and play in the race card. You want
to play the race card, go down the aisle to
their station and play it there with those jack offs
over there. Y'all have a great week, guest.
Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Thank you very much, John Listen. Like I said, I
give people even had We've had calls on this that
have narratives and constant and we just put him back
on because I like to give people an opportunity. I'm
not a gruds holder. I'm just not. Arthur's just been
doing it too long. And then then he's like Okay,
let's talk sports, and he's been great, and then all
of a sudden he comes in and you know when
you call him, oh, that's not where I was going.
(01:07:02):
He didn't give me a chance talk. I know where
he was going, or he wouldn't even be talking about
it because he's not here. That's the one thing that
got him going this morning, the fact that Kevin Stefanski
knows more, and that backup, third and four string quarterbacks
don't get work with the first team in the fourth
quarter of the last Preseaon game. It's silly. I didn't know.
It's not like I jumped out front didn't let him talk.
The reason I didn't let him talk because the world
would have been stupor much more stupid hearing it. I
(01:07:24):
award him no points, and may God have mercy on
his soul. Okay, we're all dumber for having listened to
in twenty twenty five that a pro football quarterback or
a coach is making decisions based on race, because that's
exactly where he was going to go. Right, Ah, he's
doing this, or sabotage him if if it was the
other way. Right, No, it's not. We're past that, and
(01:07:44):
only the people who bring it up are the ones
that got the issue. And I'm talking about the race problem.
Everybody knows where he was going with it. Now I'll
give him another chance to come on here and talk
sports in football, but quit cheapening how I'm important race is.
Quit cheapening how important those types of things are. As
opposed to throw it around like it's just we're just
(01:08:07):
kind of going in, Oh, it's you know, how you
get a penny and you're just like, oh, just leave
it my truck and I'll never use it. Don't don't
throw it around like that like it's disposable. Okay, the
race talk's not disposable, and it doesn't apply here when
it comes to Cleveland and the quarterback position. Regardless of
what he tells you, that's exactly where he was going
because he's done it four hundred times on the show.
(01:08:29):
He's the only guy I know that we've put on
hold four thousand times and it's called seventy four different
numbers trying to get in here. And then we let
him in because he's straightened up his act and now
I wants guy. So if you're a caller, I'll give
you all the lead what you want until you're crazy
enough to lose that opportunity. It's not gonna happen. No,
he's not getting in today because I'm not gonna let
him bore me with his details. Tell him to take
(01:08:50):
a day off and go stand in the corner like
you t do you discipline you're sixteen or your six
year old, and come back and see us tomorrow. Okay, Arthur,
if you're gonna act like a child, I'll treat you
like one. Okay, Well, simple wrong would have been, you know,
just fine, But don't come on here, sir Sean. Yeah,
I never thought i'd say this about you. What that
I know more about football than you? Well, there's a shock, thanks, Arthur. Well,
(01:09:15):
I don't need a pat my stud even I don't
even need to wear it as a badge of honor.
Actually that's not saying much. But you obviously know more
about the other stuff and more than Kevin Stefanski on
making these decisions. Right, that's the only reason Flacco's starting. Now,
don't be that stupid. If you're calling here with stupidity today,
I'm gonna unload on you. So there you go on
a Monday. Be careful. Fair warning, there you go. You're
(01:09:36):
on a Monday.
Speaker 5 (01:09:37):
As Sean just mentioned, all right, let's get into a
little bit of the Texans because the key is very
simple for this team. In twenty twenty five, we'll discuss that.
I'll see right there. You want to get in on
some Texans will allow you to do that. Anybody else
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Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Want to wear the Sean Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
In talking Texans here in the offensive line, Sean, that's
the one thing that coming out of training camp and
getting ready for the season. I mean, you look at
this team across the board, everything else looks like you
can check the box. Secondary linebackers, health, I mean that's
the big thing with them. Of you know who's ready
(01:10:25):
and available for you, and of course running back with
Joe Mixon and you know how much time is he
going to miss all of those different things. But I mean,
you did do your best to sure things up by
adding Nick Chubb and you know, also drafting Woody Marx,
So you feel pretty good about your numbers over there.
The offensive line is the one for me. Where what
is the group of five and how is it going
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to look and how will they play this season? That
it's very simple, Like we were talking about the Astros
lineup earlier, Capability, that's that's all I need. I mean,
we saw it for a little bit in twenty twenty four.
Capable won you ballgames. Where everything else you're talented and
you've got depth at those spots. The offensive line is
the one that I look at and I'm like, what
(01:11:08):
are we going to get? And I kind of get
the shrugging emoji.
Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Well, on a team I don't know, Yeah, on a
team that's loaded at a lot of positions and they're
really good. This is the at least going into the
season because of what they're they're suffering from what last year.
You know they went through. They were a detriment to
the team. Last year. They were not good. They can't
get you can't perform worse than they did last year
when it comes to pre snap penalties and the inconsistency.
They're going to be better now. You got to get
(01:11:33):
a little lucky with health. But that's every team at
every position. If they if you were to say, okay,
go down the checklist of pros versus cons, you might
check in the middle if there's a like, there's a
winner and l it's kind of I think you're sitting
on the fence saying, okay, I think we know that
there's potential there. That's why they made changes. You can
do something if they get the right guy's continuity wise,
but they are better. There was a subtraction has added
(01:11:56):
to them. There's been a plus for them. They needed
to move the left tackle on. They needed to change there.
And Ted Tunsen will do fine for Washington, probably be
in the Pro Bowl, but he just needed to change.
He was getting stale in way too much of the
same stuff. This team needed to be rocked a little
bit at that position. They did. They needed guys to
check them out. You trade the former first round pick
from A and M, you send him to Philadelphia. They
(01:12:17):
needed some change here and a little wake up call,
and they got it. Now, the question you got to
stay healthy. But that is if there is a okay,
I wonder that's the one you wonder. If they're just good,
this team's going to dominate the division. I'm just telling
you that is the perceived weakness around the league is
how good are they, or at least has been the
perceived weakness going into this because of last year and
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what went on. How good will they be upfront? Can
they keep CJ. Stroud upright? And can they move the
pile and be physical when necessary but also have enough
finesse that they can move their feet and work in
unison together all those things and get proper line calls
and not let basic blitzes get you to the point
and fronts and coverages get you to the point where
you're tripping the can't block basic stuff, basic stunts. So
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I think they're gonna be I know they're going to
be better. The question is how much better do they
have to be for this team to advance through the playoffs?
So and keep their quarterback up right? I love this
team and I am I'm rooting hard for the offensive
line because every team I've ever been on, if we're
good as a team, you can look back at our
teams and it usually starts with why were you guys
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good shot? Oh yeah, we had Marcus Allen and we
had you know, Chris Carter and Minnesota Marcus Allen at
USC I can look around. I'm going to tell you
when we're good. Normally, when I was on the ten
years I played in all my years of college, it
all started with well, you were good. Why well Bruce
Matthews and Don Mosbar and you know Roy Foster, three
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All Americans and first round picks. And then the NFL well,
Gary Zimmerman and Randall McDaniel, two Hall of famers, and
Kirk Cloudermilk, a phenomenal center who didn't get the credit
he deserved. You get my point. Did Usually when the
seed is over, you look back and say, what are
the things you did? The three things that you If
you only got to choose three things, not individuals. As
a unit, you'd say, quarterback played well or great. Right,
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defense was physical and got you stops and is one
of the better defenses in the league. And your offensive
line played who dominated a line of scrimmage. The rest
will be fine. Quarterback will get average receivers and make
them really good. Stroud can do that. An offensive line
you can't. And now the other side, if you say, okay,
why'd you struggle well on this team? If I say
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why did they? They won the division? But why didn't
they impact it more. What would your first thing be
the offensive line?
Speaker 6 (01:14:36):
But here we go.
Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
So the same negatives you get are the same reason.
So one thing I'll never, ever, don't ever take for
granted anybody that the success of a team, the long
term and dominant success of a team, usually starts with
knocking somebody in the mouth defensively, a quarterback who can
handle pressure and an offensive line that dominates the line scrimmage.
Who won a Super Bowl last year, Philadelphia Eagles is good? Hey,
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as good as DeVante Smith and A. J. Brown are?
What are we talking about?
Speaker 6 (01:15:07):
Lane?
Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Offensive line? Saquon Barkley in the running game, the versus
the quarterback played out of it, had a great year
and is great under pressure. He's proved that in two
Super Bowls, and their defense dominated the Kansas City Chiefs.
Every now and then there's the aberration. You get the outlier,
but I got news for it the sub When you
talk about the national champion who won the national title
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last year, Ohio State, how was their quarterback under pressure?
Under pressure? Yeah he was he was pretty good, Okay,
But how was they How were they at the line
of scrimmas with those two running backs last year? Even
with injuries, still really good and they're one and there
and they're they they dominate. After what happened to Oregon
beat them, they go to the rose ball would they
do to Oregon rush them? And it was physical domination.
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So it starts there. If that team's good offensive line,
you watch it permeate through the team and the rest
will shine because they've got pieces everywhere else. Definitely working
out wall for him.
Speaker 5 (01:16:00):
I'm one three to two, one two, five seven ninety
real quick, al before we get to Steve Sparks, Good morning, Hey,
what's going on, guys?
Speaker 8 (01:16:07):
Great show?
Speaker 10 (01:16:08):
Hey, sure, you know we had receipts on that offensive line.
We agreed to take a bunch of dogs. Little name
on the back of jersey.
Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
Yep.
Speaker 10 (01:16:16):
I just want to get some get some love to
uh the new offensive coordinator, because you know, sometimes Hull,
you just need a leader in the room to get
some physicality out of those dudes. And I think this
is what he's doing. He turned these dudes into sitting
in the seats to straight up in the boxing en
fighters and all these dudes on this offensive line. You know,
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mentality is phisical and I'm gonna fight and that's what
we lacked last year. I don't want to say coaching
or whatever, but obviously it's been a coach up thing.
So kudos to the bec'rien grabbing that guy and the
last thing. And I listen to y'all take on it, Sean,
I was beating the drama on Damon Pierce in great job,
was easy to do, and the guys calling the game,
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and it was just crazy. How Damon Peer if the
gooodie Marsh is good, I'm glad you got it, don't
get me wrong, But they was talking about when Damion
Pierce didn't get the ball. He was talking about, you
do a great job on calling the game. How Damon
Pearce was picking up the blitch because it wouldn't have
have been a couple of blitch pick up blocks the
quarterback sery stream wouldn't have had a chance to make
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some great those So I'm looking at those things like
that man, Damian Pearce has picked up, you know, being
able to block to get that quarterback enough time to complete.
So these other things I'm looking at show and he
got a great job on picking up some of those blocks.
And Wooded Marsh it's just that smaller guy.
Speaker 6 (01:17:37):
But the leverage.
Speaker 10 (01:17:38):
You gotta have leverage the speed and breaking the run.
It's good, they're all gonna do that, but when it
comes down to the trenches, you needn't have leverage on
a line back of the year to pick up that
block and don't.
Speaker 6 (01:17:48):
Get boat rowed over.
Speaker 10 (01:17:50):
Damion Pierce showed couldn't leverage on some of those blocks,
and I hate them.
Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
And you say, I appreciate the call. I can tell
you this the running back and good point, Alan, thanks,
good to hear your voice.
Speaker 12 (01:17:59):
Brother.
Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
I appreciate you. I can tell you this. They're not
going the one thing that they're not going to lack
this year, as long as they don't have an unbelievable
rash of injuries, they're running back positions as deep as
it's going to get in this league.
Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
Wow, in their front two are monsters, and that was
not the case last year. It was Joe Mixon and
really nobody else. And it's a strength if they're healthy,
that is a strength on this team.
Speaker 6 (01:18:20):
One of them.
Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
No better teacher than to lack numbers at a spot
and then say I gotta do something about that this offseason.
Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
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Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
Now that for the most part this weekend looked like
a team that knows how to swing the bat and
bald flying out of the ballpark. That looked like we've
been waiting on that for all season long, and now
the consistency is sustaining. Was had to be a good
visual for your eyes, Steve.
Speaker 6 (01:21:16):
It was finally the home runs.
Speaker 14 (01:21:19):
You had four extra basis in Detroit in those three games,
but the eight home runs in the four games in
Baltimore was a cypress our eyes. And you know some
of these guys are just starting to pick up the slack.
The two out stuff was evident, and you got Jordan
Alvarez around the corner.
Speaker 6 (01:21:36):
Now it finally looks like this offense is going to
be able to help him out.
Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
Steve, have you been in all the years you've covered
or even played it have you seen a team we
know the potentials there, we know what kind of the
resilience and all that I'm talking about that they've been
that inconsistent, inconsistent to play with the long but just
over the season, with all the injuries, it's been like that.
Have you ever been through one hundred and thirty games
or whatever it's been, and then all of a sudden
the last thirty or forty games seeing a team turn
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it around completely if it gets to that, and sustain
it and carry it through the playoffs. Have we ever
seen that big a discrepancy in your mind in all
the years you've done it?
Speaker 6 (01:22:11):
You know?
Speaker 14 (01:22:12):
It was just good to see that the Astros were
able to capitalize on the three starters who through the
first three games in the Baltimore series. It was young,
Kramer and Covids, right.
Speaker 6 (01:22:25):
These guys fished against the Astros in Houston and they
crushed them. I mean, they absolutely went right through them.
Speaker 14 (01:22:33):
And to be able to make the necessary adjustments that
they needed to this weekend against those three pitchers in particular.
Speaker 6 (01:22:40):
Was a site that they needed to see that.
Speaker 14 (01:22:44):
And I've told you I felt like so far this
season there's been a type of pitcher who's been able
to command that out or third against the right handed
batters with spin, they were going to give them fits.
And we saw it with Flarerty and Detroit. We continue
to see it from time to time. But they made
some really good adjustments against Baltimore on those pictures, and
they were spitting on those pitches out there and waiting
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for those guys to come to the inner third of
the plate, and guys.
Speaker 6 (01:23:09):
Like Perea Christian Walker really took advantage of it.
Speaker 14 (01:23:13):
So that's what I want to see. I want to
see some adjustments. I want to see a little bit
more patience and a better game plan against those types
of pitchers. And I feel like we're starting to see that.
Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
Now, Steve. Was it just as simple as making them
make the pitcher give you what you love to hit
as opposed to hitting a pitcher's pitch. Was it really
just that simple and patient?
Speaker 6 (01:23:34):
That's what it's all about, man. That's the number one
rule of hitting is get a good pitch.
Speaker 15 (01:23:40):
And it might be a little bit different for different guys.
Speaker 6 (01:23:43):
It might be inner third, might be you.
Speaker 14 (01:23:46):
Know, low or high or whatever, but get a good pitch,
and you know what that is and especially early in
the counts, you're gonna hunt.
Speaker 6 (01:23:53):
That pitch until you get it.
Speaker 15 (01:23:54):
Two strikes is a different story, but I think that's
where it starts.
Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
Steve Sparks, for his weekly visit here on Sports Talk
seven to ninety shout Salisbury Show, Steve any concern at all?
I don't know, because lad Zy was starting pitching, and
maybe from or in particular, but when mccullors is still
trying to get it. I thought the best thing that
happened with him on Friday was pitching out of that
bases loaded jam. You know, I did did he to
be able to come out of that after it put
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it loaded him up? But is starting pitching a concern
right now?
Speaker 12 (01:24:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:24:24):
It is.
Speaker 6 (01:24:25):
You know, you can't sugarcoat it. I mean, you're looking
for guys to kind of get over that hump.
Speaker 15 (01:24:29):
And you know, there's a couple of the pitchers in
particular that have.
Speaker 6 (01:24:33):
Had long layoffs.
Speaker 14 (01:24:34):
And we've seen Sandy Alcantra of the Marlins, who's a
Style Young Award winner, Spencer Strider of the Rays' long
layoffs and they've come back and struggled, and you.
Speaker 6 (01:24:43):
Know, sometimes it's just not easy to jump right back
in into the thick things and command the ball the
way you hope to. So that's that's the main thing.
And this is what I want to see.
Speaker 15 (01:24:54):
I want to see guys attack the strike zone.
Speaker 14 (01:24:56):
I want them to win the count. I want them
to get ahead of account and then get the hitters
to expand the strike zone. I think that's the key
is we need to see, whether it's relievers or starters,
whoever it is, guys attack and make the other team
know that you're coming after them.
Speaker 6 (01:25:14):
Put them on the defense.
Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
Steve, if you just Joe's done a great job. I
mean he's had to change lineups with all the adjustments
he's had to make this year. Applaud for him considering
all these injuries to keep them in this position. Two
games up in first place, but just the top the
first six. We don't have to go through the seven, eight,
and nine. What's the best hitting order for you? Where
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do you want these guys when Jordan's back? How does
that look to you?
Speaker 6 (01:25:40):
Gosh, I haven't even thought about it yet me either.
Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
That's why that right, what I thought about. I said,
let me talk to the experts, see what he would
with back. I'm with you, but if you did, just
in a quick terms, what would you think? How would
it look to you?
Speaker 15 (01:25:55):
I'll tell you this, this is what this is what
I think the Astros missed a lot. It's paradus.
Speaker 14 (01:26:01):
Yeah, you know, the number of pitches that he was
able to see was different from most of the other
guys on the team. And if you remember in fort
bats one game, he set a record at dyke and
Park seeing thirty seven pitches and for a bats you.
Speaker 6 (01:26:17):
Can't replace that.
Speaker 15 (01:26:19):
And I feel like they're still trying to get guys
to kind.
Speaker 6 (01:26:23):
Of work, to count and do some things. I know
I want Payina leading off yep, and I know I
want jord On to bat in the first inning.
Speaker 14 (01:26:32):
And then where you go from that shown I'm not
exactly sure. Met may depend on the pitching matchup or whatever.
Speaker 6 (01:26:38):
And you're trying to.
Speaker 14 (01:26:39):
Get your best guys to hit as often as possible,
But it starts with Pinion and jord On for me
hitting in the first edit.
Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
Steve, when you you know we've all the like hitting,
We've a lot of times taken best hitters and Jordan
hitting the two hole before we've seen Otani. Dude, it
kind of changed from was your three guy, right, and
then the two, and it's kind of fluctuated between two, three,
and four and a lot of these teams with great hitters.
But tell me the evolution just from your your your
vis your your visual of what what a two hitter
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needs to look like if you got him in the
two hole, just kind of like what do you want
there if you're putting him in a lineup.
Speaker 14 (01:27:13):
I think a lot of teams have always, or in
the last seven or eight years anyway, have put your
best hitter in the two hole because they're going to
about fifty more times during the course of the season
than the three hole hitter. I think that's the number
somewhere really close to that, and that could be very impactful.
I mean, you could win a couple more games during
the season if you get him up, you know, in
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the latter stage of the game, rather than ending the
game with him on deck.
Speaker 4 (01:27:37):
Right.
Speaker 14 (01:27:37):
So that's the biggest reason for that two hole. So
the what the way they look is not the same
as what they used to look like when I played. Yes,
it was a guy who could go inside out and
hit and run.
Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
Move a guy on the right side.
Speaker 6 (01:27:49):
Yeah, all that stuff.
Speaker 14 (01:27:50):
So it's a little different now. So you're looking for, uh,
probably your best hitter to hit in the two hole.
I think yourd On li likes to hit the three hole.
You got a chance with you know, if you put
your first few guys in the order with high on
base percentage, that's what you're trying to create.
Speaker 6 (01:28:06):
You're trying to make the other team Sean.
Speaker 16 (01:28:09):
Pitch to Jordon Alvarese, and if you have a guy
on first base in second base, you give yourself the
most chances for him to swing the bat, rather than
then pitching around yord On.
Speaker 4 (01:28:21):
Steve Win with Jordan Well, I guess we're all anticipating
him being in the lineup tomorrow when they resume there
after this day off. What's fair or I mean, we
know how good he is, but what should we expect
from him early? Or is he just too good for
us to even put our finger on that.
Speaker 14 (01:28:39):
I think you run into trouble if there's expectations. But
you're just hoping he can impact the rest of the
lineup with his presence. You know, if he's going to
be a little little stale as far as his timing goes,
that's understandable, but we've seen him jump into the lineup
after long layoffs before where we've seen him play three
games in spring training, jump into the lineup and feel
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like he's never left the beat.
Speaker 15 (01:29:02):
So I don't know if that's fair to expect that,
but if he does.
Speaker 6 (01:29:06):
I wouldn't be shocked.
Speaker 14 (01:29:07):
Right he looks like he's swinging the bat really well,
and Corpus Christie's got four.
Speaker 6 (01:29:12):
Doubles down there in fifteen at bats, and that's what
you're hoping for.
Speaker 14 (01:29:15):
Man, You're just hoping that Jordan gets pitched to and
he gets he gets to take advantage of that power.
Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
Steve, I usually ask you this probably every fifty games
or so, kind of third to third a third to
break it down the season because the strengths and weaknesses
may change because of injuries. Right now, what unit are grouping?
What's the strength of the Houston Astros.
Speaker 6 (01:29:39):
The top of the rotation?
Speaker 14 (01:29:40):
I would say right now, even with Thromber's got to
turn it around. I mean he's had he's had pieces
like this before, but.
Speaker 15 (01:29:52):
He always comes out on the other end on the
good side.
Speaker 14 (01:29:56):
So you know, you're watching the velocity more than anything else,
and you just feel like he can get back and
pitched like like he normally does, and the way Jason
Alexander is pitch. He's had a one and a half
the ra in August and you can't ask for any
more than.
Speaker 6 (01:30:11):
That, but it certainly needed it.
Speaker 14 (01:30:13):
But after Brandon Walter went down and was kind of
doing what Jason Alexander was for about six weeks, you know,
that's what good teams do, you know, and they've got
guys that come out of nowhere. I mean, nobody expected
Walter and Alexander to be able to do what they've
done for the Astros.
Speaker 6 (01:30:30):
This year, but they did.
Speaker 14 (01:30:32):
And I told you, I think the last couple of
weeks the Astros sorely needed a middle reliever to come
in and throw strikes, and that's what we saw blue
Ball do the other day.
Speaker 6 (01:30:45):
Four innings.
Speaker 14 (01:30:47):
He got to win out of the bullpen, but he
saved the relievers from another one of those games where
the starters didn't go very deep.
Speaker 6 (01:30:54):
And that's when the Astros have been at their best.
Speaker 14 (01:30:56):
They've had a guy down there, kind of an unsung hero,
go win there and pound the strike zone. And unfortunately,
because he threw four rentings, they had to send him
out and get another fresh arm in there, so we
won't see blue ball for fifteen days.
Speaker 6 (01:31:10):
But that's what they need.
Speaker 14 (01:31:12):
They need somebody who can make sure they don't wreck
the bullpen when the starter doesn't go very deep?
Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
Steve, is it fair to say that Jason Alexander, at
least from my vantage point, I trust him right now,
just not from this, but it's a guy that you
can't take him out of the rotation regardless of who
gets back healthy right now, can you? I trust him
right now?
Speaker 8 (01:31:31):
I do too.
Speaker 6 (01:31:32):
You know. I had a nice long conversation with him
a day or two ago, and he.
Speaker 14 (01:31:36):
Does something and I suspected this because of the reaction
of the hitters. He does something that a lot of
guys used to do. Now a lot of guys are
are chasing a certain profile of their pitches these days, Sean,
and they're making the ball spin in a certain way
to get this kind of movement, and they know that's
going to be effective. So that's what they do a
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lot of times on their change up. For a long
time ago, all the pictures when they threw a change up,
they were going to make it look as much like their.
Speaker 6 (01:32:05):
Fastball as they could.
Speaker 14 (01:32:06):
That means if he was mostly a two seam fastball pitcher,
he would throw his change up to look like a
two seamer as well.
Speaker 6 (01:32:13):
Same thing with the four steamer.
Speaker 14 (01:32:15):
Well, a lot of guys these days will throw a
four seam fastball up at the strike zone. Then they'll
throw a change up off of the two seam grip
because it makes it move more, but it alerts the hitter.
The hitter can see the spin is different and he
knows it's not a fastball. And that's what you're trying
to make a change up look like, is a fastball.
And I asked, I asked Jason Alexander.
Speaker 6 (01:32:35):
The other day, how do you throw your change up?
Speaker 14 (01:32:37):
And he showed it to me and said, well, I
changed from last year to this year from a two
scene change up grip to a four scene change up
grip because I think it makes it look more like
my fastball.
Speaker 6 (01:32:48):
And I just want I wanted to kiss him on
the on the mouth.
Speaker 4 (01:32:55):
Steve, Why didn't you? Well, if I'm being.
Speaker 8 (01:32:58):
Honest, if I'm being honest, I really did. I actually did.
Speaker 10 (01:33:03):
So.
Speaker 6 (01:33:03):
But that's the thing, man, it looks like you're heater.
Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:33:07):
Yeah, if he does it, man, he throws his.
Speaker 14 (01:33:09):
Change up on this little bulking grip, but he throws
it off of a fourteen grip.
Speaker 6 (01:33:13):
That nobody else does, and it makes it look like
his fastball.
Speaker 14 (01:33:17):
And that's why he's he's making he's making the hitters
look a little silly with some of their swings.
Speaker 6 (01:33:23):
On that change up.
Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
And at eight fourteen in the morning, your great explanation
of that with Jason Alexander makes me want to kiss
you on the lips. I can't wait.
Speaker 6 (01:33:31):
I appreciate this. Hey, can I tell you one thing
about the Rockies?
Speaker 4 (01:33:33):
You can anything you'd like.
Speaker 15 (01:33:36):
Brother, Let's go okay, So the Ashers play the Rockies
in the next three games.
Speaker 6 (01:33:41):
The Rockies have a minus I wrote this down.
Speaker 15 (01:33:43):
So they have a minus three forty nine run differential.
Speaker 4 (01:33:46):
That's all.
Speaker 14 (01:33:47):
That's all three hundred and forty nine more runs than
they've scored, which is an average of two point sixty
six runs per game, which will set a modern day
record that since nineteen.
Speaker 6 (01:34:01):
So the reason why I say.
Speaker 14 (01:34:02):
That is is because when you look at some team,
some team, the Mets have swept the Rockies twice and
have a plus twenty seven run differential against them and
just a plus three in every other game, So they've
done almost all of their run differential damage against the
Rockies San Diego, plus thirty five against Colorado, plus three against.
Speaker 6 (01:34:24):
All other teams.
Speaker 14 (01:34:25):
And Toronto swept Colorado in a three game series earlier
this year and had a plus thirty nine run differential
and only plus five in all others.
Speaker 6 (01:34:35):
And I'm saying that because you looked at last.
Speaker 14 (01:34:37):
Year with the Chicago White Sox in the American League Central,
who had a brutal season, that the teams that took
advantage of the Chicago White Sox, Kansas City and the
Detroit Tigers, who played them thirteen times a piece, made
it to the playoffs and the remaining schedule.
Speaker 6 (01:34:58):
For the Astros.
Speaker 14 (01:34:59):
And I'm saying this, and you don't take any team lightly,
and you want to win every series, but you almost
have to sweep the Rockies.
Speaker 6 (01:35:06):
They've only won.
Speaker 14 (01:35:07):
Five series all year long, right, but you almost have
to sweep them where you lose a little ground to
the field. And I say that because the Seattle Mariners
play Colorado in games one, fifty seven, one, fifty eight,
and fifty nine this year, so they're still.
Speaker 6 (01:35:23):
Going to get the plays.
Speaker 15 (01:35:24):
So you gotta take You got to take care of
business this series.
Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
You can't bogie par fives in a tournament, Steve to win,
right when when when you got a two stroke you
go two stroke lead. You've got to birdie the par fives,
and you've got to par the par threes when they're hard.
You gotta birdy the and this is you got to
birdy these holes in every now and then mix in
an eagle if you're going to win the tournament. And
that's who the Astros are to coin the old golf RaSE,
which I like doing that when it comes to baseball
and sports in general. Steve, great stuff, brother, It should
(01:35:50):
be fun. I can't wait to see Jordan back out there.
And we always appreciate you sharing your kiss on the
lip stories too, man, awesome. You're the best. Nobody better
than you appreciate your brother.
Speaker 6 (01:36:00):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
That's a great skin of Sparks you do. Always a
great storyteller, but also gives you something every week to
hang your hat on.
Speaker 5 (01:36:06):
Dan, I was gonna say, we never get cheated when
we talk with Steve Sparks right here on the Sean
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The Shun Salvesbury Show continues. The shown Salvesbury Show continues.
John and Fresno wants to weigh in. John, what's going on?
Speaker 8 (01:37:50):
Hey, We'm going on, guys. I don't want to wait
a little bit on this to do a thing.
Speaker 12 (01:37:54):
Number one is dead, so do both set quarterback in
college football last year and uh, we know why.
Speaker 6 (01:38:04):
Hold on to the ball too long?
Speaker 8 (01:38:06):
But my thing is and it's not a knock against them,
but then I did not have the son ready.
Speaker 12 (01:38:11):
To go to the next level, because John, you know
that when you officers here office, allow me to get
bad break. You only have photo seven seconds, photo seven seconds.
You got to make your mind up because they tell
you to step up in the pocket, right, So they
tell you to step up into the pocket because that's
why you're protecting it inside the packet. Now, in his mind,
(01:38:34):
he thinks he could do what he did in college,
get out the pocket, running around and find somebody open.
Now we know that Travils Hunter made up for a
lot of his mistakes because Travis had Astieri to get open.
So but when you bring that same style into the NFL,
you not Lamar Jackson, You not Josh Allen. You don't
(01:38:54):
have the foot feed to get out of trouble when
you come outside the packet because the moufers linas, hey man,
they only gonna have you. They only gonna cover you
f four to five seconds, and then you got to
either get rid of the ball to play another day
of finu receiver to do. Problem meals is that you
do not have the foot speed he got that he
(01:39:16):
runs around a second hoping that the mouths alima run
five forty man two hundred pounds. They're coming at it.
So here's a proud meals footwork. He got to learn
to the packet Trussus Jo.
Speaker 4 (01:39:31):
Okay, No, John, I was gonna let you finish. I
was just gonna say, you're a spot on. That's it's
and I want you to finish. So now you're exactly
one hundred percent correct. And if you watch the film
of him on of this last preseason game, did he did?
Speaker 12 (01:39:43):
He did?
Speaker 4 (01:39:43):
If the ball comes out on time? Did the linemen
while they're getting pressure at that level? You got to
get the ball. There's a guy sitting in the flat,
there's a guy in a little stick round. Just get
the ball out and get simple completions. He's trying to
play a little hero ball's the problem. And that's what
you saw and what I see. And he's got listening.
With proper development, the guy can be a good player.
I've been saying that nobody should root for the kid
(01:40:04):
to fail because he's a last name Sanders. Quite the opposite.
Kid's good. He wants to be a player. He's just
not ready right now. And you make another good point
about this, and you said four to seven secs. I
got news for you. Do you know that if you
get two point seven to five seconds in the NFL
to throw the football. You should be in the PROP.
You should be in the pro that'll be at the
top of the league in past protection time. So if
(01:40:24):
that bottom ball's not out between two five and two
seven five and you don't have Lamar or Josh Allen
those type of feet, then you're gonna take a lot
of sacks. Sometimes are the guys who that they run
themselves into trouble because it's a crutch. We've all used
our crutch on the field. He's just not ready. It's
not anything else other than you can't play him right now.
(01:40:45):
You got to give and he's a third or four
string quarterback for now, and that's where he's at. There's
a lot of development that has to happen, just like
it does for most third and four string quarterbacks.
Speaker 12 (01:40:54):
That's right, You're right about that, Sun and that's why.
And another part think I'm gonna lit the fact that
the matter is is that don't get down, man, because
Hunley that came in there and kick their drive down.
Hunty got cut the next day. But Honey gonna have
a job because he got.
Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
Stuff on film.
Speaker 12 (01:41:13):
He got stuff on film. Other teams gonna need quarterbacks.
He got stuff on film. He came out there, he
did enough put enough stuff on film that if you
don't make it with the cleaning with they cut.
Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
It, he gonna go and get a job. Well, the
Raiders just lost Aid and O'Connell for six eight weeks.
The Raiders are looking for an experienced backup, and Huntley
did a really good He did a great job when
he was in Baltimore. There's a there's a veteran that
I'm sure would have liked more work in Cleveland too, right,
but he didn't get it. So there's a sponsoring somewhere.
Speaker 8 (01:41:43):
I won't say this.
Speaker 12 (01:41:44):
A blited goat jelly mel roase that come from Alabama.
The reason he gonna make that team because not only
could his throat, but he got the legs to make
nothing out of something, and that is what gonna get
him trapped. So sad, Just work on your game, man,
don't even worry about it. You got talent, Work on
(01:42:05):
your game. Get to put work right and everything, and
you get your.
Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
Chip him out, y'all. He'll do great stuff, John, Right,
just work what's your door? See it's unfair to him too,
because we put all this fifth round pressure on a guy.
It's like, can you let the kid develop without putting
he's not ready for can you imagine throwing him in
now and what and then what happened is happening? Or
he said, oh my gosh, and then everybody turns against
him because he didn't turn the franchise run. He's not
(01:42:28):
ready to turn it around. Neither is Dylan Gabriel. I'm
not sure Flak alreadybody else is all that damn team
offensively right now. So it's just crazy. Andess it's a
great point by John that he makes about allowing these
guys to develop. And like I said, and Huntley's got
stuff on film and he's cut and he's gonna move
on somewhere else. But it's just to let the young
man play some football right now and work on his
(01:42:50):
game and his craft because it's just not ready. And
there's there is no other excuse, there is no well
they did this because they don't want I don't know
any general manager in football that grafts a guy or
a court coach that wants to see a guy fail,
or that intentionally puts him in harms away. He just
actually just led me to my question to you.
Speaker 5 (01:43:06):
I mean, what benefit does Kevin Stefanski get from sending
him out there to fail?
Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
No benefits, none, absolutely nothing nothing. If stefanskie player would
ever trust you again, exactly. And just because he's not
playing now does not mean that Shdr Sanders cannot be
a player that's called this lead. See, we've got everything,
we think. Everybody's got to be mahomes in year two.
That doesn't happen. That's not normal. Lamar Jackson, was it?
(01:43:32):
Lamar Jackson? His rookie year, people are like, good, gracious,
he's swimming it. Then he finally gets into a system,
gets playing more, and now he's a monster on the field.
There is no world with which we live in. And
what was your question again? One more that I was
thinking about you should do listen none, absolutely none, and
(01:43:53):
think about if he all of a sudden, like I
said in the first hour, decided to run his starters
back out there in the fourth quarter, or they even
the third for Shador Sanders as your fourth string quarterback.
As we sit today, now that may change. A picket
gets traded or gets cut, or we run red tape
to say, you know what, guys, put your pads back on.
We got to go back out and play football. The
(01:44:16):
the Cleveland proper, the entire state would have gone nuts.
What are you doing for a fourth fifth for the
guy who's not gonna who's barely gonna be in uniform
on Sundays right now. Not disrespect to Shadur, but he's
he's he's everybody's thirsty, right. So my point is, why
would I owe so I'm gonna put out I'm gonna
put Teller out there. I'm gonna put my big dogs
(01:44:37):
out there right so they can put them in harm's
way so they're not ready for the regular season opener. Well,
they didn't give him the number ones. Of course they didn't,
just like they didn't for any other third string guy
playing her fourth string guy in the third and fourth
quarter of the final preseason game. The narrative on this
is as absurd and humiliating when it comes to some
(01:44:59):
people's take on this is embarrassing for them, It's absolutely embarrassing.
And you instant when you tell me that that's the reason,
you instantly lose football credibility with me. You just flat
out do and I have some Okay, you instantly lose
it because then we got to go around the league say, man,
why in the Chicago didn't they give the third string
quarterback the starting offensive line because Ben Johnson's got a brain. Okay,
(01:45:24):
you don't do that to your team. Okay, just like
Andy Reid's got a brain, just like Demiko Ryans has
got a brain. Oh here's what I want. I wanted
all the ones in to finish that so Mertz could
have the ones play with him. No disrespect to Mertz.
Good player, got a chance, you got to develop. He
was a good college quarterback, went through some injuries. So
that's what we're doing. Yeah, run those guys back out there.
(01:45:44):
Everybody in this city would have gone over there and
knocked nrg over saying what are you doing with this?
Why in the world do you play? No, you don't
do that. Whether it's in Detroit or here, they would
have knocked in rg over if on a road game,
to say, why are you putting the ones back in
with the third string quarterback? We don't need that. The
w doesn't matter, but the game did. Because people are
trying to develop. You can't put your ones in in
(01:46:07):
any in any team, any city in the planet. In
the third preseason game. It's the narrative to suggest that
you should for a guy who's not going to be
in a uniform in the first week in a season.
More than likely, if he is, he'll be a long
way from the starter's position. You can't do it.
Speaker 5 (01:46:23):
Kevin Stefanski's got enough dysfunction to deal with there. He
doesn't need to.
Speaker 4 (01:46:27):
Gosh. Now, if you guys want to know what the
problem is in Cleveland, it ain't whether they should be starting,
should do or Sanders right now or not? That'll just
heighten the problem three years from now, maybe different not today. Son.
Speaker 5 (01:46:38):
You know my saying, bad organizations continue to be bad organizations.
Sometimes it's just news different name played on the door.
Speaker 4 (01:46:45):
Fanski and and Andrew Berry. You don't think the seat's
hot there. You don't think the seats hot there? Now?
If Russ Wilson starts with the Giants, should we all
be up in arms because Jackson Dart played so great
in the preseason. It was the preseason. If he starts,
then that tells you they don't trust Russ. But the
difference is one was a first round pick who's going
(01:47:07):
to get all the looks as a rookie. The other
one was a fifth round pick and a quarterback was
drafted ahead of him in the third round. Who's getting
more reps? Because why you drafted him two rounds ahead
of him? See how that goes in this league. What
a novel concept. It doesn't mean guys can't play. The
key is like Johnson stayed, of course it's gonna be okay. Now,
maybe Shuduur Sanders reading for the first time in his
(01:47:28):
playing career out of the spotlight. Well, we've kept him
in it. But where he can just go to work,
study and work on his game without being Dion's son.
And why he's sitting over there without having every time
he walks out of the building, you're treating he has
to be treated like he's Tom Brady. Let's give the
guy a chance to grow into being an NFL quarterback
and see where it goes from there. Now ain't the time.
(01:47:50):
It's fascinating to me what people see and what they
want to carve it into. I'll tell you what. Most
of the teams I've been on, they play their best
players most of the time. And in this case, the
best quarterback on the roster didn't come from Colorado yet.
He's not ready yet.
Speaker 5 (01:48:07):
Simple Well, speaking of really good Quarterbacks, a comparison made
that I think is a little bit flawed. We'll discuss
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This is the Sean Salisbury Show. At the tea bag
of your cup. Loose to those vocal cards up dandy,
now hit the height of there you go. Hey, it happens, Matt. Yeah,
you try for that high harmony and sometimes it just
doesn't work.
Speaker 5 (01:49:54):
That's I apologize to the audience, and I apologize to
Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 4 (01:49:58):
No apology, no apology. G need to just try. You know,
sometimes you got to hit you hit it. Sometimes you're like, okay,
let me go back and get this one again. Live
within your strengths. So that's not one of them. I
know my weakness that it ain't getting up that high.
I can't get there. Brother. That's that's a that's a
level of penthouse high voice that I can't get to.
Speaker 5 (01:50:14):
And I wouldn't try. Sean's one of the regulars of
the Soggy Bottom Boys. Yeah, I'm one of these guys
down here, yes, oak Ridge Boys or whatever. That's exactly yeah,
you know down yeah. I can take you low and
a tweener. But once you start to get up where
you were with Stevie Wonder High Notes or Michael Jackson,
I got that gum pass and leave it to the experts.
Speaker 4 (01:50:35):
You keep at it. Brother, you've had you've hit him before.
I can't get up there with that.
Speaker 8 (01:50:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:50:39):
I'm down here sometimes.
Speaker 5 (01:50:41):
I mean, you know, it's maybe the coffee just didn't
hit yet, like you said, it's okay, uh someone three
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Stros are off today, but they take three out of
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and hopefully, hopefully Jordan Alvarez back in the lineup tomorrow.
(01:51:03):
Did you see that our good buddy coach Oh was
on with the boys over at barstool. Pardon my take,
And one one of the things he had talked about
was wanting to make a return to coaching, which I
think you know of a place that and that that
would actually be the follow up that I'd have for
him is I don't know, unless it's like a Louisiana
(01:51:24):
tach or somebody like that, like kind of like what
Butch Jones had to do, You've got to go back
to clawing your way back into getting people's trust that
you can lead a program. But position coaching, I mean,
is that something that Coacho would be interested in doing
because he is still revered as one of the best
defensive line coaches out there, and he and we know
what his recruiting, Yeah, yeah, we know it is what
(01:51:47):
that part is too.
Speaker 4 (01:51:47):
Plus he's now got you know, he's he wearing a
national championship bring on one of the best seasons we've
ever seen a team have. There comes a point in
time and that for I think for Coach O to
get back into want to be a head coach again,
that unless it's a smaller program, not that he can't
coach a big program, but just you know, when you've
been out of it a few years and you move on,
(01:52:08):
I would think being a position coach would be a
step back, and I would love to have him as
a defensive line coach at sc HELL or just on
there helping out to the point, because he's still got
a lot of good football and coaching in him. I'm
a big fan. But in order to get to that process,
I think that you'll have to I mean, to get
to that destination. There's going to be a process for him,
(01:52:29):
I think. And then it just comes down to do
you want to accept being a position coach again? But
how many guys are successful head coaches did it? Head
coach had to go back and be a coordinator and
an analyst and do their thing, build themselves back up
and get a head coaching job. Again, It depends on
what effort and what you're willing to do, and I
would imagine for coach O it also depends on who
the head coaches of the job he's taking. If he
(01:52:51):
was a defensive line of position coach, knowing that you've
got a guy who's stable, knowing that you get a
guy who's going to let you coach, knowing that you
know what I'm saying, that also isn't going to be intimidated,
which is hard to do. Coach O's a big presence.
Everybody loves him. He's popular, he's got a national championship ring,
He's coached one of the best football programs in the
country and want a championship there. And we know his
reputation for recruiting and the rest of it. So I
(01:53:13):
think it's less on coach, oh of whether the head coach,
and it's more on the head coach. Can you handle
a guy in the building that people are going to love,
players are going to respond to, that, media is going
to love because he tells it like it is and
gets after and also as a resume and can you
will You see, I always hire coaches if I was
a head coach, I want. I'm hiring coaches that I
(01:53:33):
eventually believe they can be head coaches. It lead that
position that they have that in mind. Now it's not
for everybody. You may hire a guy who says, I
just want to be a position coach because I love it.
And more and more you find guys wanting to do
that because they love that. They love the interaction with
their player. Because when you're the coordinator of the head coach,
it's an overall thing. You're kind of babysitting as opposed
to hear in that meeting room every day, and coach
oh is great in the meeting room. So I think
(01:53:54):
a lot of it depends on if you'll take a
position coach, who's the coach there that's stable and says,
you know what, I'm not worried about the threat that
coach Ozeron because coach Ojeron is going to be a
threat because people are going to talk. It's like the
third string quarterback that had a good preseason. Everybody's going
to talk about him, and especially because Oh, yet the
guy who's in front of him pretty decent player too,
(01:54:14):
or a pretty decent coach. So I think coach O
could get a job as a defensive line coach probably
anywhere did he wanted to. The question is when will
that be right and is he willing to go through
that step to get back in or does he want
to coach a program that may not be lsu size
when it comes to Powerhouse. But you can do a
lot worse than hiring coach Ozeron if you want to
increase your recruiting and bring some eyes to the program. Man,
(01:54:37):
that's just the problem.
Speaker 5 (01:54:38):
Is your alma Mater, for example, I think that Lincoln
Riley would be hesitant to do it because it's one
misstep for me. They know they've got the interim coach
right here. And I don't mean this in a distress
because I love Lincoln.
Speaker 11 (01:54:49):
I do.
Speaker 4 (01:54:50):
The key is they just got to play defense. There's
an offensive coach Lincoln. They will score, They'll score from
the parking lot. But the thing about it is here
I could make the argument that ed Orgeron's more popular
LA than Lincoln Riley is on that campus today, not
the well because they're waiting, because they're still okay Lincoln,
is this the year we elevate? Because Lincoln listen, if
you want to score points, and he knows how to
dial up play, he just does. But they got to
(01:55:11):
play defense. So yes, there are people there that have
been pining for coach O since Coach O left. So yes,
he'd be good. But you got to be a stable,
secure head coach because when that presence is in the building,
even if he doesn't pine for it, people will create it.
Speaker 5 (01:55:26):
Now definitely, so, and it's maybe a distraction that I
don't think he or anybody would necessarily.
Speaker 4 (01:55:32):
At least not this year Lincoln. Righty's got some other stuff.
Speaker 5 (01:55:34):
He's got to deal one more thing on this that
I do want to open up the nine o'clock hour
with because again, I just I feel like this logic
is a little flawed and got a good explanation for it,
So we'll talk about it here. It is a Sean
Salisbury show on a Monday is Sports Talk seven to nine.
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Astros take three or four over the weekend from the
Orioles in Baltimore, off tonight before the Rockies come to
town and your Don Alvarez expected to be back with
the club tomorrow. Here's hoping fingers are crossed and I
think we are all in that same boat right now.
The astro is now two games up on the Mariners
in the West. But continueing to talk some college football here,
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mentioning about Edozeron and of course we are your home
of the Texas Longhorns here, which you'll have them on Saturday,
and also uh for LSU football here in Houston, right
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Thursday night over on KPRC nine fifty. But I mentioned
his logic I thought was a little flawed. Here is
he was asked about Arch Manning, and he said that
he had a chance to go to Texas Clinic and
speak there, and then he also watched practice, and of
course knows Arch because he's from Louisiana. He liked Joe
Brady a lot, he said, and of course Joe Brady
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got Joe Burrow's career fired up. But he said, I'll
say this conservatively. This is Ojeron's words. We recruited Garrett Nussmeyer.
Garrett's a great player, but Arch is as close to
or maybe as good as Joe Burrow as I've ever seen,
and I've never said that about anybody.
Speaker 4 (01:59:49):
Here's where the logic is a little skewed.
Speaker 5 (01:59:51):
Because the first year for Joe Burrow, he was serviceable,
he was good, he was better than anything they had
ever had at quarter back there in a really really
long time. Probably you'd have to go back to like
maybe Matt Flynn was the last time. And I understand
JaMarcus Russell was the first round pick. Look, he was
the first pick overall because of one game that he
had against Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (02:00:12):
Aside fan they I get all of that. I understand
all of that.
Speaker 5 (02:00:19):
But Joe, of course, coming into that season with Joe Brady,
I remember that he was at the Manning Passing Academy
and he talked about how great that offense was going to.
Speaker 4 (02:00:28):
Be, and people laughed at him.
Speaker 5 (02:00:30):
People were like, Oh, okay, man, we've been hearing this
at LSU for years, Like even when you know, going
back to the less miles days where it was, oh, hey,
we're going to open up the offense. It's going to
be totally different.
Speaker 4 (02:00:42):
No, you're not.
Speaker 5 (02:00:42):
You're gonna run that same I formation you've continued to run.
You're gonna rely on the path. You're gonna rely on
the running game. Enough of the passing game because granted,
Les Miles had both Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry on
campus at the same time and they were still mid offensively,
so nobody thought that twenty nineteen was going to be
the way that it was.
Speaker 4 (02:01:01):
I mean, Joe Burrow came into that season.
Speaker 5 (02:01:03):
I remember my good buddy Glenn Gilbo talking with Burrow's dad,
and Burrow's dad said that he's slated to be a
fifth round pick.
Speaker 4 (02:01:10):
And then he had that season and people were like,
oh man, maybe we missed something on this guy. All
facts and I could tell you this validate exactly what
you're saying about. This is and listen, arch Manning could
have a great year this year. Listen, I'm not what
coach I was saying about. He's talking about when he recruited,
never recruited, got better. You see him in Louisiana. Hell,
he's much more recruited than Joe Burrow was coming out
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of school and Joe was you know, people remember Joe
was at Ohio State before he transferred, as you mentioned
so to LSU. Well, the thing with arch Manning, he
could have a great year and not have the year
that Burrow had in twenty nineteen and I can remember,
just to talk about how bad and what they were expecting,
and it wasn't that. But I got offered a job
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as an analyst. I went up to LSU coach oseran
I was setting in the office. The problem why I
went back it had to go through the legal part
of it because I trained. I was training a couple
of guys, one in particular that they were recruiting heavily
was their number one, and I was I'd been training him.
And there was a rule then, which is a stupid rule,
the NC two A that there had to be if
you were a private coach, there had to be distance
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between the time or it looked like it was, you know, nepotism. Well,
I'm not a family friend of anybody. I was just
training a quarterback. They were very very very high on
and so they brought me in off the analyst. But
the n C two I wouldn't let it happened because
it was too close together on the day as I trained.
So so but the only reason I say that is
because I can remember being there and they were talking
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about their offense and what they were to do and
waiting on Joe to translate. In the spring, you know
to get to LSU. He says, well, waiting on Joe Burr.
He goes, it's Sean, I think we got a pretty
good player here, and I knew Joe was, and so
we went over that and talked and then and they
had high expectations and then it went up and down,
and then Joe the last part of the season was
really good, right, but he was there were some things
they need to fix, and he was a fourth to
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sixth round pick. That that's where people had slated him
after that year, and then he came in there, but
there was always this sense and then coach Ogeron had
kind of admitted it and when they were going through
that there that he was held in high regard that
there's something a little different about Burrough. They knew that,
but nobody could have expected what you saw in twenty nineteen,
right with that explosion of it was as good a
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college offense. And I was fortunate as an sc guy
to watch Lionert and Bush that group this because Burrow
was a better thrower of the football than most guys
were and his poison his feet. So they had high
hopes for Burrows. They had higher hopes than maybe but
it was a new system for Joe, you know, getting
into it, higher hopes for Joe, I mean for Burrow.
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Then that first year they expected to build on it,
and they did. I don't think going into the next
year they thought, oh my gosh, this is going to
be not just epic but really out other worldly crazy
offen they were phenomenal, and so was Joe and the
whole thing. And then and going through that, and I
know this when they decided to go get Joe Brady
and went down to New Orleans and he put on
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his He got him up there and got on the
board and walked them through teaching them RPO and how
they were going to expand on that offensively that they
were really excited that Joe Brady, who's doing a great
job in Buffalo now put on a show for that.
When he went in there and they he taught it
to them, to origarn staff, they walked out of there
saying that guy special meaning Brady, which led to Burrow special.
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And you put the two together. It was the perfect mix. Awesome.
Speaker 5 (02:04:28):
It definitely worked out incredibly well. And I mean, you know,
they were doing things passing game wise that had never
been seen there.
Speaker 4 (02:04:35):
You as good at the best pocket passer we've seen
come out of high college since Tom Brady. I mean,
he was better when he came out than Brady, but
I'm talking about just the poison the pocket. Nobody was
better that I've seen in the last ten or fifteen
years that I've watched them manipulating the pocket and pocket presence.
There was nobody better coming out of college I'd seen
in two decades. And I'm being serious, That's who Burrow was.
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And look how it's expanded and there's poise. He's got
ice in his veins everywhere. You can never see him
get flustered, and it shows every single time he plays well.
Speaker 5 (02:05:07):
I mean we saw that in the Super Bowl too
a couple of years ago, where he wasn't the reason
that they lost that game. It was then Aaron Donald
and that Rams defense finally deciding, hey we've got.
Speaker 4 (02:05:17):
This once again. What happened in the Super Bowl The
defense for the Rams dominated, and their offense just couldn't
get it go. They weren't physical enough upfront and sincinnt
matter of fact, quite the opposite. They got punked and
pushed around, and Joe never had a chance to accelerate
it and to be able to expand it. In that
game they dominated once again. It goes back to our
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beginning conversation. Great offensive line, play, a hell of a
quarterback in a dominant defense, and you have a legitimate
chance to win everything. The rest of the pieces find
a way to fit in. But here's where arch Manning
it all ties in.
Speaker 5 (02:05:50):
It's again, I just I feel like people are putting
unreachable expectations on the sky.
Speaker 4 (02:05:56):
Well they are, they are, but you know what, he's
going to welcome him, that he's prepared for the expectations
because of the job and who he the family. It
started with the pops or a grandfather, and then it
rolls right through the Manning front of me. What hell,
it's to the point and they all say he's as
talented or more talented than any of them. Now that
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talent and putting it together, and he's going to a
coordinator and a head coach who's the same guy play
caller who is the very best to what he does
in college football. He's when you mentioned the best play
callers in football and guys who do Sarkesian's name is
with Lincoln right, those names are at the top of
this list. So the expected You're right, it's unfair because
he could play great and still come up short of expectations.
(02:06:40):
Maybe not of his own, but of expectations. So I
get it. But yeah, it's crazy. But I can tell
you this man that once again he'll be prepared. And
I want you to think about this. Think about a
pub Peyton got came in out of school, and Eliott
ole miss and Peyton when he left, about Florida and
and and you know the whole thing Tennessee and coming
in the expectations. Think about this. Now find me a guy.
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In the end, I'll tell you who's the most pubbed
guy since shoulders. Andrews get a lot of it and
expectations for a fifth rounder. Tebow had high expectations. But
for what reason. There's a lot of reasons, because most
of us knew that he didn't possess the physical arm
strength to be at the next level. But he was
a competitor. I don't know the last time the expectations
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placed not Andrew luck maybe Elway and I was fortunate
in the lway, maybe Elway. Think about it. I mean
I want you to go through and think, Okay, this
guy did high expan. I'm talking about to where they
are so off the charts that how do you even
live up to it, even if you're really good? Because
when Elway came out, dude, they might have put a
blooon red suit on with an S on his chest.
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Elway was. I mean, I'm telling you what. He walked
on water, according to everybody, and he was the first
and he paid it off. Now you think about what
this guy's got expectations that anything short of like off
the charts, some will be disappointed, which is so unfair.
But you know, nobody's gonna feel sorry. He's prepared for
this and this is what he's worked his life for.
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And I assure you the Mannings will have him prepared
and it's up to but you know what, his dad
or Peyton can't propease. Peyton ain't playing on Saturdays. He's
got to put it to work. And I trust that
Arch Manning will figure this out. I think UT's in
phenomenal position. Well, I mean, and that's also it comes
to the territory there too. I mean, because it's the
every year Texas is back, oh hey, national championship, all
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of these things. If the expectations didn't get any higher.
Guess what, there's a guy who's got a national championship ring,
who played about a good a football game in person
that you'll ever play in your life, in a big game,
in Vince Young. Those expectations will always be sitting in
that quarterback room regardless, because that's the barometer, and anything
less than that is like, Eh, Quintin, here's a good player,
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but he wasn't Vine Young the finish right, And now
you look at arch Manning and it's through the roof
and it's either now if he goes and wins the
championship in a Heisman trophy and plays like the expectations, dude,
well his only just decision. Then we'll be do I
leave and go be the first pick of the draft,
or do I literally come back and try to do
this again. That'll be his decision. Not is the guy
a good player? But there's a lot riding on it
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And I cannot wait to see this opener this weekend
in midday with in Ohio State the reigning champion. This
is going to be on, dude, and I can't wait
to see it. Goosebumps. I cannot wait to see him
I'm ready. Saturday cannot get here soon enough. Oh my gosh,
I cannot wait to see this thing and see how
he responds. And no matter what happens, if he plays great,
don't put him in the college football Hall of Fame.
If he doesn't play as well as you. It's one game,
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and things have changed immensely for players. In one game.
I got my brains beat in by Wilbur Marshall my
first start of my college career in Florida. He had
the best game of any defensive player I've ever seen
in my life, watching or playing in it. Unfortunately I
was on the receiving end of it. But then it
got better, and I'll never forget. I was sitting down.
My parents left the game. We were into that swamp,
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we were done, we are driving to go ahead and
win it. And the clock ran out and the game ended,
and Wilbur was still I get reminded this day, thirty
years they shot you, remember that? Do I remember it was?
It was dominating a forces I'd ever seen in college
football game still to this day, and I ever ret
I was leaning, sitting down, leaning on the outside of
the locker room against the wall. You know, bothered that
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we didn't win. You know, you're upset. I'm set a
sophomorem nineteen years old or whatever, it was eighteen years old,
and I'm in there and I'm like and then John
Robinson comes out and says, well, hence national championship for LSU.
Coach Robinson was part of Ed George A. Round's staff
and he walks out and he looked at my parents
until he goes, I saw a lot in him today.
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He's gonna be fine. We went on to roll off
seven in a row, you know, and we're playing great football.
But he saw something even in getting your ass kicked,
which made me feel good because I was like, well,
I let my team down. We didn't win at Florida,
and we should have handed wilbermarsha. I should have walked
over there and said, dude, to hate your guts, but
I love you because it was the most impressive thing
I'd seen. But after that, I was in the tank
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for a minute. You're like, ah, I let my guys down.
You get on a plane and go home, get back
to work. Next thing you know, you go on a roll.
But the head coach and being able to manipulate and
help you with That was so important for me at
a fragile age, right, And even though I was confident,
you still like, man, is this what's going to be like?
And Coach Robinson was so good at just a few
simple words and made my parents feel better and next thing,
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you know. So the expectations for archbanning are through the roof.
But if there was anybody considering the background of the
family to handle it, it's a pretty good guy to
have handle it, no question about it.
Speaker 5 (02:11:25):
And you know, sometimes it's nice to have people see
things in you that maybe at the time you can't
see in it yourself. Let's get back into the astros
because something that Sean mentioned earlier is very prophetic now
and we'll see if they live up to said prophecy.
We will talk about it here. It is the Shawn
Salisbury Show on a Monday Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Get back at it.
Speaker 5 (02:13:30):
Uh, Sean, you mentioned something earlier about what's going to
be important for the Astros down the stretch, and I mean,
this is yet another homestand against teams that you should handle.
But how many times since they left LA in July
have we said that about this team where it's Hey,
the Cleveland Guardians are coming in. I've lost ten straight.
The Astros should be able to handle them. You get swept, Hey,
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the Oakland A's or excuse me, that's a slip. The
Athletics are coming to town. Uh, you should be able
to handle those guys. You get swept, so well, I'm
not saying that the Astros are going to get swept.
But I'm also saying that you can't really put heavy
expectations on this team to win because well, I mean,
we just saw it play out this weekend. If you hit, yeah,
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you're gonna win because the pitching is leaking oil. What
this really boils down, to Sean is exactly what you said,
win series and keep it moving, no more getting swept.
You lose a series, you can't lose another one after that.
You need to be able to bounce back and at
least even things out. Like that's the territory the Astros
are in at this point, and when you're two games
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up on the Mariners, there is no wiggle room.
Speaker 4 (02:14:34):
Yeah, I'm gonna and I'm with you one hundred percent
win the series. You know, take two of three, three
or four whenever you run into one of those series.
But I'm gonna even go one step further down. I
have to expect them to sweep the series. I do,
and Steve Sparks have made a point, and I think
it's valid. I understand everybody's getting paid and the discrepancy
with that team to a to a good team, they're putrid.
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I'm sorry that I'm not saying the individuals of people,
but the sum they are a bad baseball team and
a struggling franchise. I'm just telling you, and Steve said,
you know, you almost have to sweep them. There's no
truer time to what I said about Birdie the par
fives than now this series, this one, I don't if
Jordan didn't take a swing at the plate, you you
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are a far better team, far better expectations. They're a
team trying to figure out if they if they're going
to be scheduled next year. We're going to give them
one hundred and sixty two games by week or by season,
and the Assos are a team we expect to have
World Series opportunity every year. Now I see win the series. Yes, Dan,
I'm with you, win all the series, but in this
one in particular, I don't think that you can. If
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your expectations for all of us aren't to go in
there and hammer this team and sweep them, then then
then maybe then maybe we're on the wrong not you
and I, but then our thought process is on the
wrong page. You absolutely cannot let the Colorado Rockies waltz
in here. Almost four hundred run differential they're in the
minus almost four hundred category. You cannot let that happen.
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I don't care who pitches, and I don't care who's
at the plate and what the lineup looks like. It
would be almost unacceptable. This would be a year. Ye, yes,
unacceptable to lose a game, but to lose this series
and I know people will see it. You aren't kidding. Yes,
it's crazy. This this team here, this team you come
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here and I understand, well, they're pro baseball players. You know,
it's a long seat at this stage of the game.
That's out the window. That they have proven this year
that they're not good. They have proven this year they're
basically a double A team playing pro big at least
the production. I'm talking about that good players, but not
every Because you got a player good or two doesn't
mean that everybody's good. I'm just telling you my expectations
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are they sweep them in a hammer there ass. This
was twenty eleven. That's that's exactly right. And that too
that it's three forty nine, it should be up to
about three seventy nine run differential by the time this
is over. That otherwise, by not beating these guys sweeping them.
You put yourself in the buying and Steve Sparks made
a great point. One game's what you say one fifty
seven fifty nine are Seattle playing Colorado? You do not
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want to be tied going into a series that you
got to play and they get to play Colorado. You
get to play them now. You absolutely have to. I'm
talking about put your foot on their throat and twist it.
You have got to choke them out. If he come
back and they got beat three to two, and then
the one five to four in a walk off, and
then maybe let no unacceptable, This isn't well they're pros.
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Shown No, they're barely pros and it doesn't matter. You
absolutely have to kick their ass up and down Dyke
and Park and the expectations are three more wins by
the time this series is over. You don't have to,
you can't. You're losing this, You're losing. You're letting the
field lap you. If you do not dominate this series, well,
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I mean it's again.
Speaker 5 (02:17:55):
You know, if you don't handle a series like this,
then at the end of the season you'll look at
it and you say, hey, we missed the postseason. Why, Well,
because I mean, you played the way that you did
at home against bad teams, and you finished up the
way that you did against bad teams. So hopefully the
Astros can avoid that. Continue this conversation too if you
want to get in someone three two one two five
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Speaker 5 (02:20:34):
So good chance for the Astros to get things going
at home. Tommy Fleetwood wins the Tour Championship, his first
PGA Tour win, and me and Sean, you know, we
were just talking about it during the break of how
exciting that was down the stretch where he had him
where You're just like, come on, man, finish this off.
Like even even once he got to the green on eighteen,
You're like, is he somehow gonna find a way to
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Speaker 4 (02:20:57):
Doug you had four puttt Yeah, and watch what and
watch Patrick can't lay chip in or something like exactly. Dude, Like,
I don't know if this is ever gonna happen for me.
I'll tell you what else get made an emotional for
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and he's really friggin good. Okay, make no mistake, But
now he's the enemy. I love you. We'll celebrate with
you today. But now Ryder Cup comes in. It is
on brother, and that that's what makes it great. You know,
the competition. I love head to head, fistfight competition in
a golf terms, right, But I was so happy for
him then And to see his step son come out
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there crying and give him a hug, and just his
caddy give him a kiss on the head. I'm like,
and he's probably woke up this one like or if
he ever went to sleep like, because I can guarantee
you one thing. A few pints were flowing with him
and Rose and Shane Lowry was big. They've got the
one thing. One thing I can tell you about the
Euros when it comes to like the golf, they do
not get cheated on their fun post golf when they win.
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If you saw Bob McIntyre what he wanted, they they celebrate.
Rory and Tommy Fleet would deserve to celebrate and get
after it and it'll be a Ryder Cup guy. I
was so happy for him and just the emotion, and
I'm proud of the US fans, the respect, the the
and the love is It's it's easy to root for Scheffler,
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He's always around and but Scheffler's gonna win thirty more
times in the next five years. Okay, just is and
Tommy may Well, this may be the one that gets
him over and he goes on a roll and wins
munch tournaments. But that's exact that's exactly. We saw it
with Dustin Johnson for a minute when he was on
the tour as well. But this is I was so
happy for him and the class in which those folks
in Atlanta showed him and openly rooting for him. It's
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a good golf market, it is, and rooting for a
guy who normally, if it was him and Scheffler or
Patrick Cantley, they'd be rooting for the US guy. It's
just natural. But it was easy to root for a
great guy who's hand himself with grace and dignity through
losses and through some really good moments in his career.
But I couldn't have been happier for him then. And
I'll tell you what when I saw Scheffler stand on
the par three with about two hundred and ten yards
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and he just made birdie and was charging. And if
you're if you're a Tommy fleet with the last thing
you want to say is that, dude, you know, objects
are closer than they may appear in that side view mirror.
And then all of a sudden, dude, he hits that
draw and he's normally he's a cutshot guy. He had
a draw and it started left and I'm like, oh
my gosh, and it goes in the water. You saying this,
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I mean I was, I said shocked. Scheffler doesn't do that.
Scheffler's supposed to stif it to three feet and knock
it in and make the pressure even go more. But
when can't lay bogied and it got the three strokes,
you're thinking, Todd, dude, put it down the fairway if
that's what it takes to get you in. And then
he smoked some good shots, played it smart, and took
it home. I was I felt like I was playing
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in the tournament watching Fleet would come down the stretch, meaning, whatever, dude,
whatever pressure're feeling, just throw it on me. I'll take
it in my living room for you. Go get this
thing done, relax and swing the club because you're a
great He is a great iron player. And I just
I was so happy for that guy and for his
win and for his family and can't wait. I hope
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he's celebrating his ass off. But we will see you
at Bethpage Black and now it's on. Well, I mean,
you're talking about the grace, class and dignity. I mean
of so many guys this year that we've seen in
similar situations. I'm not talking to the media. I'm angry.
I'm leaving Rory Colin Marracalla where. I mean, he had
had multiple heartbreaks this year, and people would have understood
if he did not really address it right. He didn't
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duck anybody, and he's never ducked. And we've seen guy
you know, you know the names that pout and walk
away and pout And I'll catch you next week because
I don't feel like it Tommy Fleetwood with the bat
and getting him right as he walks off the golf
course to the point where he's like, if you're the player,
you're like, I'm damn here in tears because the emotion
I'm faving. I just got my ass handed to me again.
Kegan Bradley hits it close to Justin Rose hits it close.
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What in the hell's going on here? And I gotta win?
What to get? The one win with the tour championship
in ten million bucks plus all the bonuses he's gonna
get from his the people who had who sponsor his
golf bag and clubs. It just and it couldn't happened
to a better guy, because you know what, I almost
feel like the good I do. I think the Good
Lord works in ways. Say dude, you've withstood this beat down,
and you've withstood it with dignity. Today's your time. Hey,
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you look like, yeah, yeah, so, and how about you
finally get yours right. You're not gonna walk on water,
but I got news for you, dude, You're gonna play
like it at some point in time. And then when
he takes out of the floor, incredible, He turned water
to wine how that happen, the flowing locks of hair,
and just the just the constant and that those little
steps he takes when he's little asses walking up the fairway.
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But I couldn't you know, we're walking down the ferry
to the wind. But I'm I can't imagine what he
was feeling, because I would have asked when you when
walking off that tee after you hit that shot to
the green and you're walking to the green and seeing this,
It's not like you were they were playing at Royal
County Down. Where's he going right now that there's a
ray of light around him Royal count Down? You're here
in Atlanta. And to see the response in the way
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that the fans were running behind him at the eighteen
so they could get a good look at the putt.
I just thought it was really really cool. And I
can't remember the last time, maybe Rory at the Masters,
but there's still a smugness about him that makes him
a little tougher to root for at times. Tommy Fleetwood
is easy to root for, and I loved it. Put
it this way. If he wasn't a hero, I say,
come on over and skip your ryder cup, come play
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for us. Just pretend like you're you're us guy. But
that's going to be on because dude, both sides got
some friggin monsters in the in this tournament. It's going
to be a blasting favorite. While the Ryder Cup. You
asked the way some of these guys are playing the
and Keegan Bradley himself, Keithan Bradley has to take it.
Speaker 5 (02:26:42):
He has to choose himself. That's what he's playing too good. Yeah,
I agree, and I think he will. I mean, you know,
that's that's what also makes me glad that finally the
Houston Open got out of the Fall swing because nobody
plays during that time. I mean, you know, you get
a handful of guys, But the fact that you get them,
and this year it's gonna be two weeks befoor the Masters.
Speaker 4 (02:27:01):
Getting there is a great tune up because some won't
play the week before the Masters because chef then want
to get out and get a head start on preparation
for the Masters. This has become this is like for me,
I don't it's not. It may not be a signature event,
but it's a signature event from my eyes because of
the tune up leading into it and they put on
a phenomenal event at a great public golf course. Yep,
I mean everything goes so I'm with you. It means something.
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I mean, it's always meant something, means far more now
because of the significance of where it's located in the schedule.
I think it's a great move by the Houston Open
and by the fact that we get a great, great
golf course to play it on.
Speaker 5 (02:27:35):
Getting back into the astros here, if you want to
jump aboard someone three two one two five, seven ninety
as the path forward is simple for this team and
it revolves around these people, we'll discuss it right here.
It is the Shawn Salisbury Show on a Monday Sports
Talk seven ninety. But first, I mean, as we've said
at numerous times, sean team minus about a couple of
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hours before it's lunchtime and you're getting into the office
on a Monday, You're like, man, you know what sounds
really good. I'll tell you what sounds really good. Some brisket,
oh Man, some holopeno, cheddar, sausage, maybe a little bit
of potato salad, maybe some beans, and a nice iced
tea to be able to wash it down. Jbar and barbecue.
They got all that.
Speaker 4 (02:28:18):
Yeah, Jbarn Barbecue dot com. Where you go. You don't
need reservations. Twenty two to one Leland Street, Great venue,
indoor outter. We've said it and if you haven't, men,
just go check it out and go send it. You're
gonna want to go out. There's this weather and you're
gonna sit there with your dog in the outdoor on
a Saturday morning getting ready after you've had your coffee
and this that I'm ready for brisket at ten o'clock. Go.
You're gonna love it, you know what, Dan, I've never
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you know, when you look at the menu or when
you go in there and eat, have you ever had
anything that you said, I don't want that again? Everything
it's true, and now not just going in there and
enjoining loving the venue because it's phenomenal and the food's great,
and so is the customer service with coffee in the
whole group the food. There's the best barbecue in this city?
Speaker 12 (02:28:55):
Is it now?
Speaker 4 (02:28:56):
Man? It's college football, it's NFL. It ain't a bad place.
If you're in a hurry, Sack, I got to get
home to do some stuff at home place in order
go pick it up and while you're there, maybe grab
a little quick beer. I say, you want to stay there,
but at all, I'm telling you take it home. If
you're having it for the family, you don't want to
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cook that day, and you will be grateful you did
it because it is the best barbecue. And it doesn't
matter what you get. Try it all. You will not
be disappointed. Hey, your orders ready? Hey can you keep
it warm?
Speaker 5 (02:29:26):
You know I still want to have one before I
eat the brisket. There you go, Yeah, they take it.
I'm enjoying the vibes. I've got the games on, I've
got the beer garden outside the full service bar right
there to go along with the a plus food that
are Rash and his crew fire up back there in
the pit room.
Speaker 4 (02:29:43):
It's jbar M Barbecue.
Speaker 5 (02:29:45):
As Sean told you, event no event twenty two oh
one Leland Street, plenty of parking. As soon as you
walk in the door, you smell it and it lives
up to the expectations. Jbar M Barbecue. J bar M
Barbecue right there in Ito.
Speaker 4 (02:29:59):
Let this celebration start.
Speaker 1 (02:30:01):
Or Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (02:30:06):
We've been talking about it. You talked about a lot
with Steve Sparks about this ASTROS lineup. We'll close out
with that, but first let's squeeze Aggie Doug in here.
Aggie Doug, what's up.
Speaker 8 (02:30:20):
One on the right where over at the.
Speaker 14 (02:30:26):
Yeah, the electrical equipment, like the electrical panel and caps, Yeah, Doug.
Speaker 5 (02:30:34):
Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, I was gonna say,
you know, Triple if you want to check with them.
I think it was almost like bluetooth or like speaker
or something like that. But now we'll we'll get him in.
But let's talk Astros because I mean, you know, we've
said it numerous times and you know you saw it
during this weekend. Al two, Ve getting going, Carlos Korea
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continues to be what he's been. How about Zoo Sanchez
finally getting going too. I mean, that's that's been a
guy that you've been really looking forward to seeing get
the back going, and he finally did. And then I
mean even Christian Walker and Jiner Diaz in certain stretches too,
guys that we have been at nauseum talking about wanting
to see those guys get going.
Speaker 4 (02:31:18):
The Sanchez, the Sanchez struggles early for late for him
to get on, get on, a roll here because he's
starting to look like why Dana Brown brought him here.
Some power, bat on the ball, solid left field can
move him around. He's starting to look like because you
when you watch your say, man, that's not the guy
that they expected here, because you've heard all the talk
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and if you didn't see him much when he was
in Miami. The guy's got some power and some talent.
Well lo and behold he uh he's now getting on
that role will help the He and the Christian Walkers,
those three are going to be epic. They have to be,
you know when I say epic, meaning from where they
were to the advancement of getting what we expectations are.
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And then he added jord onto alignment lineup and they
start doing what they're doing now that they did two
of the three games this weekend. Now you're looking at
not formidable and dangerous. The pitching got you to this point.
The pitching is not going to carry you now. I
mean we've seen it with the starting pitching outside of
Hunter Brown. Start starting pitching, starting pitching. Dan This this
may end up being a grind the rest of because
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you're still waiting on Garcian and velocity right. Javier is
just going through some struggles to get to so he's
super close.
Speaker 12 (02:32:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:32:30):
Mccullors has had his I mean he's had he struggled,
He's had some moments and he pitched out of a
basis loaded jam which which was found really good on Friday,
but struggles. Jason Alexander has been your second best pitcher
the last five weeks. Five starts, four or five starts,
be a hunter Brown at him. That's that's what and
Fromber absolutely has to pitch like he's expected. He can't
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keep doing this. This has got to turn around for him.
What's what has been a strength has been a is
It's not a weakness, it's it's still strength. But there
are some questions have creeped in a little bit here,
and I think some some I'm not overly comfortable like
I was with that it was the hitting. The hitting
replaced it. Right now right now, I'm not saying a weakness,
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but there there's got to be a few concerns about
the depth and length that you're starting pitching and how
how it looks right now. The optics haven't been very
good and for your ace, they've got to get better.
Speaker 5 (02:33:25):
Well, I mean it's give and take, and hopefully the
Astros hitters can start to give Aggie Doug welcome in, buddy,
I got my business handle.
Speaker 8 (02:33:35):
I appreciate it. I apologize.
Speaker 12 (02:33:37):
Uh so.
Speaker 4 (02:33:40):
Talk to us. Yeah great, great, we know everything that
went on in your meeting now, so that's cool. We
appreciate it. Brothers personal business out.
Speaker 8 (02:33:48):
There doing sales on a Monday, so it's never a
bad thing. But guys, you know what was so cool
about watching that yesterday with a bunch of people that
never watched golf is that it almost felt like ten cup.
I mean, like all those people at the very end
where they basically ran, and I was like, are these
people going to start jumping in the lake like Ken Cupp.
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I was waiting for the guy to throw the ball
into the lake, you know. So it was just really
cool to watch that. And guys, I agree with you
one hundred percent about you know, us waiting for the offense.
I mean, if the offense is going to do this,
it's going to solve a lot of the pitching woes.
So if I mean, if we can start to average
four and five runs a game, I think our pitching
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will be will end up being just fine, Yeah, I
hope you're.
Speaker 4 (02:34:34):
Right about that. I think it will turn around. I
do time with him, but you've heard him four or
five runs a game different than two or one or three,
four or five runs a game. No, they'll find a
way to get through. It would have been enough yesterday,
but for the other three games it was not. So
Luckily the Astros were able to live up to that.
All right.
Speaker 5 (02:34:49):
He's Shawn Triple, Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews, The Matt Thomas
Show with Ross coming up next.
Speaker 4 (02:34:55):
Right here.
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We will talk to you in twenty hours here on
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Speaker 6 (02:35:11):
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To usc Troupes longtime friend, Sewn Salisbury.
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Dan Matthewscus. This is the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Left hander delivers and that's a shot in the right
center field. The Astros are going to score here. RBI
single for Jeremy Paynya. He's two for two. We're tied
at one apiece. That's Payne on third, Correa on second.
It's a one to one ball game. Rogers delivers and
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this was hit high in the air toward the corner
right field. Jackson's over there and in fair territory, makes
the catch. Were out number three and that'll do it
for the Astros. And the third inn it pulled backhanded
by the third basement machine goes to second for the
Force and that'll do it for the Astros. Here in
the fourth edit, Arraghetty seventy third pitch got him strike three,
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stayed with it, got him on the cutter, and it's
another one.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Two three for rag Getty. He's retired ten in a
row to two. Duban hits this in the left right
at Beaver's playing toward left center and he makes the
catch to retire the side. Dubon hit it pretty well,
but the astrostranded couple. They get a run closer on
the sack fly by Caratini on two strike three call
(01:30):
that was off the outside corner of the changeup, but
Panya gets wrung up. Achin strikes out the side of
the ninth and the Orioles avoid getting swept by the Astros.
Baltimore wins it three to two.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Oh man, this is why we can't have nice things
where you absolutely slug on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and then
you didn't put in the order for the slugging on Sunday,
and that's why you lose three to two, as you
just heard Robert Ford tell you. And with that, Sean
we say away we go in good morning here on
the Seawan Salisbury Show. Three out of four inc bad,
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but I mean that's one yesterday. That is kind of
the twenty twenty five Astros in a nutshell where you're
looking at the bats and saying, hey, guys, just.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
A little bit just we're not asking for seven runs here.
I'm not gonna get that greedy, though I am greedy.
But the fact that they came on Dana said, we're
gonna get hot. They did, and the bats. I'll tell
you what's let you down lately is starting pitching. Starting pitching.
I mean, Arraghetty was okay, he was okay, got you
into the wood with little rough at first, but then yeah,
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you settled in and he said, but he was all right.
Javier was not good. Mcclors. The best thing he did
in that game he walked a bunch. Again. The best
thing he did was get out of a basis loaded jam,
because that could have changed the entire course of that
baseball game. You know, he pitched hisself inflicted, pitched himself
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into it. But and you saw his frustration walking off
the mountain and when he you know, it was almost
like let's go or whatever I think it was. There
might have been a little f bom mixed in there,
but he uh to be able to pitch his way
out of a basis loaded jam was the to me,
the biggest key of the whole game, the biggest key
of the whole game, because who knows which way to
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gone then, But starting pitching has been a problem, and
dub it again over the week, did he It's just
he was not the Now I only I didn't see
him more than once over the weekend because I was
doing stuff too. I watched, you know, a smattering of
the games. I don't know how many appearances he got.
But was it Friday or Saturday? Where he again? Friday? Yeah,
it just it just it's not that's the one. I think.
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It's it's just something's missing. Well, you don't have to
worry about him anymore, I know, But but my point is,
is it all that time back that a guy we
counted on it just did it just didn't happen nap.
So that so I didn't miss anything after that with him,
did I? I mean on Friday, so I didn't know
if he'd had another appearance because I was like a
smattering of it in golf and running around and doing
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it all but and watching the game. But he was
and that was a body they desperately needed for the
time to get going, you know, to to rest a bullpen.
But he pitched his way out of the off a roster.
I mean, the results are are very much right there. Yeah,
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you literally pitched him an opportunity and pitched himself out
of a job. And so that was that was a
tough but a lot of things to like you saw
Walker's bat, I know, frustrated yesterday, but got going over
the weekend again the long ball. I would imagine now
tomorrow we get to see Yorda. I think it's time.
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Like I said last week, more than likely, I figured
that with the Monday day off that here would be
his start. But I still would have loved to I
don't know, man, that's just me. I don't know what
the difference between one day is the light of not
but I think probably the bring him home. Everything's going well,
you know, or we need him in the lineup, and
the crowd's going to go Tommy Fleetwood crazy on Tuesday.
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So all in all was good. And listen, I'm not
the reason why I'm not going to be overly greedy,
even though I am all the time with runs. Consider
where you were and what you needed and what you
got one day that Baltimore gets them, okay, But they
elevated their bats as Dana Brown said they would on Wednesday.
He literally said this is what's going to happen, and
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he was spot on. Over the weekend for the most part,
he was. But starting pitching has got to get better,
it does, I know. Once again, We could talk about
grinding out five innings, but if you grind out five
innings and you've given up five runs or four runs
or six runs, it becomes a problem. You grind out
all you want. Eating innings is important, but if you're
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eating innings but you're still giving up and it's still
seven to five ball game, I mean, that's too much
in two innings or three innings. So starting pitching's got
to pitch better. It just really does. You don't want
to keep putting a bullpen because then you're gonna need
what you want seven eight runs a game, which is
it's impossible to sustain for the best hitting team in baseball,
let alone a team that's been you know, on the
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on the south side of being at you know, in
the middle of the of the pack hitting baseballs this year.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Well, I mean you took the words right out of
my mouth with that s word sustain, because it is
not sustainable the way that they're pitching right now. Because
this lineup's not good enough to be able to slug
your way out of it.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
This weekend was a little bit of an anomaly because
you actually did hit long balls, and not only did
you hit home runs hit right, I mean, and you
also hit them with runners on base. So that was
something that was a site for sore eyes.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
With this team you put there, think about what you
do to the other staff, Think what you do the
other hitters, right, and the desperation that now becomes what
we've seen a lot here this year of And it
was flip flopped all right. The larm ball was there,
and they were I mean, they were something they've needed.
And as much as small ball is important and getting
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moving runners over and getting people in position to score
solo home runs, if you're giving up seven or eight
runs become a problem. But I was actually pleased. When
I say pleased, not they're trying to please me, but
from my eyesight, I was pretty pleased with what I
saw most of the weekend. I really was. With the bats. Now,
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you just got to get the bats doing their thing
and the piss starting everything working at once for twenty
five or thirty games left to go, thirty games whatever
it is, low thirties and take care of your business. Seattle.
What they got down with two games yesterday with a win.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
So, like I said, I always believe from beginning to
end that it's going to come down to one series
or two series at the most to decide this division.
And obviously the wild Cards a big player in this
as well.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Well you get them bit later next month too, And
I mean that's going to be the series that decides this.
As you just said, I mean, where you're two games
up at the moment, and I mean that's what kind
of hurts about yesterday is you feel like, you know,
just that one base hit there. I mean again, like
I said, Sean, I wasn't asking for seven runs, but
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three for eleven with runners in scoring position?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
How many times this year?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
And I mean, you know it's something else that somebody
brought up on Twitter about Cam Smith.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I mean, Sean, this is not getting better.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
And I mean you can try to, you know, give
him days off here and yeah, he's tired. All of
this is that bats have gotten progressively worse as the
season has gone on.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I'm shocked by his I guess shock shouldn't be the
right word. He's a rookie. I'm actually taken a little
bit of back by his falloff. Maybe this is what
we should have expected as opposed to you know how
I felt about him coming I spin there's no way
you can keep him on the raw. He had to start.
He played too well, not too and I think he's
(09:06):
going to be Listen, we're not judging his career by
one year. He had a great start. It is tapered off.
If it is simply a long season and that's what
happens in a long season, well then it just it
just validates what everybody says about rookies. But it's a
completely different optic. And look, I mean it really is.
(09:26):
With his game. I love him. I think he's going
to be a great player, but it is a it's
been a problem, and he does not he looks like
a struggling rookie. He does. He looks like a laboring,
struggling rookie trying to tinker and find any way he
can to get it going. Now, that'll that'll add to
his mental toughness as he rolls along, and if it's
done right, it'll be a real big benefit to his career.
(09:48):
We see it all the time. We see it all
if you're a guy that wilts because you had this
type of thing, and I don't think he's that guy.
But if you are, guess what happens then when you're
really really tested, it becomes a problem. And so this
is it is a long season. But if that's the case,
it's showing on him because he really is in truth,
(10:10):
is your best nine right now? He's not one of them. No,
And like I said, wholeheartedly believe in him, and I'm
all for this, and I love the fact that they've
continued to let him fight through it though you know
how I am about that. Well, we're not going to
send him down now. It's getting to the point where
you're like, there's some at this stage, you're not going
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anywhere at this stage of the season because your bodies
and you're going to need him. But knowing that he
has got to perform unlike a rookie, he looks like
a laboring rookie that you'd say, long way to go.
It looks I mean, he set the bar higher at
the beginning because he was so dynamic. Right It almost
feels like when you know when you're struggling, some of
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that dynamic is taken out of you because your mind
is that energy and the rest that goes with it.
Like I said, it'll end up benefiting him over the
long haul. It will, but right now he Uh, the
struggle is not just real the struggles, it's he he
looks like a guy that you say, why are you
playing him today? He does at times. Wow. I mean
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and I don't mean that bad, but it's it's it's
it's it's true right at the plate well.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I mean, and who would have ever guessed offensively, we
would be pining and begging for Jake Myers to come back,
because I mean, that's You've got a massive hole in
center field right now. It doesn't matter if it's Chas,
it doesn't matter if it's Jacob Melton, I mean, either
of those guys. You have him in the lineup, You're
like not feeling good about this.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Offensively, yeah, you're not counting on him at the plate
right now? Zero fact zero yeah, zero right, which which
just adds more pressure to the rest of the lineup.
But all in all, it was a Dana hit the
hit it on the head for the weekend, their bats
awoke and now we'll see with the ord On in
the lineup. I would imagine sometime this week, hopefully by
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tomorrow with the day off today, that he'll be in
the lineup and be able to do what Dana expects
him to and what we expect him to and what
he's done many times is load him up and make
the lineup it not only extended, but far better and
far more explosive. Your lips to God's ears.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Hopefully we do see number forty four back in the
lineup tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
You want to join us this morning?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety again
seven one three, two one two five seven ninety. Kind
of beating up on the bats for the weekend performance,
But what about giving them their kudos too? We'll do
that right here as we're just getting going on a
Monday edition Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talks seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Sales GREA. That's goodiful.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
I mentioned it over the weekend, three out of four
from the Orioles, not yesterday with standing, but the astros
able for the most parts with shaky pitching as we
talked about, and for the most part on the starting
pitching side, because you get on Thursday, I mean that
was probably. Yeah, Thursday and yesterday were the best starting
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pitching performances you had. I mean, Eric Getty does give
up the go ahead run and he takes the tough
luck loss, but you get five and a third out
of Jason Alexander. Then you get what three innings out
of Lance I'm trying to remember exactly what you got
out of him.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
It wasn't great.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
And then you get Christian Hobvier who can't find the
strike zone, gives up the five run lead that he
was spotted and can't get out of the third inning.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Right, And like you said, Jason Alexander did his job earlier.
You know what was it, that was Thursday? Correct? Yeah, So,
but starting pitching, he's going to have to ramp it
up and they're gonna have to get more. And the hitting, obviously,
if you can pound out more runs in one or
two regularly and become a little more of fit at
that and driving the baseball, it's gonna be a fun run.
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But you also remember, even if you're even if you're not,
if you're if you're swinging the bat well and those
guys are grinding, you're giving a guy two extra innings
because well, you got a six run lead, and even
though he's not going good, he's scattering hits and struggling
a little bit, he keep them in that that's not
the optic you want heading down the stretch, right, because
eventually the bats can cool off against good pitching. And
if you're and if you're against other teams good pitching,
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and if your pitching isn't going so well, then then
it gets Then we'll be sitting here for twenty games saying, damn,
hitting finally started late in the season. Can we get
starting pitching because we've got a tax the bullpen? Now
what are we going to do? And you listen to Steve,
and I know Steve sparks beyond today, but he's he's
never gonna say, for the most part, when he gets
to well, who do you need? Is rested as anybody.
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Steve ain't going to say the second baseman. You're going
to talk about it. He's talked about it all the time,
getting guys like al Tuovay rest But it's the key
is making sure when those guys get up out of
the bullpen that their legs aren't wobbling when they walk
to warm up in the in the you know, getting
their relief pitch, their warm up pitches in before they
go out there, and that their arms not frigging shot
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because they just mean, you can't go three days in
a row. But you're you know what I'm saying right
to the point, you can but that grind of at
this stage of the game, you'd like to, you know,
have a little bit where you don't see them the
majority of them for a game or two. That would
be nice. So that's that's where you're at. But they're
gonna both have to match pitching and hitting at this time.
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It'll be nice to see them both come together. Two
were all three phases, and I talk we know defense,
but we're pitching, relief, pitching and slugging. And then at
the plate, you're scoring runs, you're not giving up much.
Guys are getting the rest they need. This would be
a perfect time to get fully healthy everywhere and build
it to the right crescendo to where it's like everything's
rolling and we go into the postseas. It's not just
getting See that's the thing. I'm not just thinking about, Okay,
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what it's gonna take to get to the postseason. They
may be because that's there. They got to play a
game to game. We can we could speculate and put
futures looks on it and everything. You're going to have
to obviously do all these things more consistent and better
in the postseason, or it will be a quick exit.
But you can say that about any team. The difference
here is some teams that are at the top of
their division have sustained plate I means sustain their work
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at the plate a little bit longer this year, you know.
And we know Seattle's capable of driving balls out of
Yellowstone with the way they're what's rally up to forty
nine home runs now, two of them yesterday. Yeah, so
it's this is going to be a great run. But
they're hopefully as Dane like say, hitting on all cylinders
by the time they get there, and all cylinders is
also fresh, which would be important, which is why you'd
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like to have a had bit of cushion with six
to eight games to go, so you could milk out
a couple, you know, milk milk them for a couple
of for a hitter or a pitcher at every day
player that can sit out one or miss a start,
like we mentioned a Hunter Brown where it's like, okay,
well you're good. Now he gets to go in and
he's he's got a bunch of rests before he opens
up the playoff series against whoever it is, and as
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the way it looks now, the way they're pitching, he's
the guy that would do it. In my mind. No,
he definitely would be Game one for you.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
I don't think there's any question about that, because I
mean we've talked about a numerous times.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
You can't count on fromber right now.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
The last five starts have been as bad as you've
seen him, probably even going back to the start of
his career. But I mean you mentioned about the hitting
over the weekend, and it was fantastic for you. Seven
runs on Thursday, ten runs on Friday, nine runs on Saturday,
and you needed all nine of those runs, and I
mean even you kind of had to grind it out
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on Friday too. I mean where I mentioned about Lance
McCullers Junior not being able to give you much length
in his start, and then yesterday was when you kind
of ran into the stealemate. As I mentioned, three for
eleven with runners in scoring position. That spells out twenty
eight runs over the weekend. You score twenty eight runs
in the series, you're probably finishing it off the way
that you did, which is winning three out of four.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
The key you want to win them all but win series.
Just win series, and you'll be in position. But well,
you know that Seattle is going to get hot at
some point too. Well they're playing I mean by winning yesterday,
and after all what we've seen, all these games were
there within two and they've got good pitching, they would
they have more power than this team does, at least
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you know, without Jordan on the line. If their power
is more a little bit more prodigious than this team is. Now,
it's going to come down to how you carve them
out if he comes head to head. For me, I'll
take the Astros because I think their guts have proven
in these situations that they're But this is a new
team in a new year with some of the old
rappers on it, which is a good thing it is.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
And I mean jose Al Tuvey, he's gone through some
of his struggles at times.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
But what was it.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
God, I thought that he had a couple of hits yesterday.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
No day before? He did? Yeah, day before?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
So it was Saturday night, right, Okay, Yeah, a little
bit of a rough performance out of him. But I
mean you get Pegne, you get Korea, and then Walker
who actually have a good weekend. But I mean a
couple of spots yesterday. And that's the thing too, is
it just seems like that it's always a crucial spot
in the game and a runner on third base and
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he it's almost to the point now where I know
how his that bat's gonna go. He swings over an
outside breaking ball and you're like, all right, that's it,
he's cooked.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
He's done.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
And then maybe he fouls off the next one and
it's just like, yeah, this this isn't gonna go well.
And then sure enough, strike three. Thanks appreciate it. Did
he homer Friday?
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (19:31):
He did? And he homered Saturday? Correct, and Thursday, That's
what I'm saying. Did they win them all? Yeah? And
then yesterday he did not homer Bingo right, what did
Biscuits say? What he called Friday? He said, Christian Walker.
Christian Walker homers He or a yan ord is either
homer in a game or both the team usually wins.
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And guess what, he homer and three of them they won,
three of them didn't homer in the fourth one. Either
one of them didn't homer in the fourth Christian way,
and he is homer over the weekend too? Was a Friday?
I think he hit one on Friday, was it Thursday? Thursday? Thursday?
But I don't know if that's true all the time.
But in this series, when Biscuits said slugging the ball
and getting the middle of your lineup walker Homer's three
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of the four games, they win three of the four games.
The one game he doesn't Homer or y has done Homer,
they get beat. That goes back to that middle of
your lineup being able to drive runs and hit the
ball out of the ballpark at the right time. And
then the the irritation part is at the wrong time
when you're got a guy in running scoring position hit
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you know, you chase the ball that's popped up or
something silly right that drives him nuts. Those are the
ones driving nuts. But overall, from what we saw day
a week ago, you have got to be pleased with
what you saw over the weekend, at least from Thursday
on about these and we talked about it Friday here,
but Friday and Saturday that the bats were alive and well,
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which was good, which we've been waiting on. Now. The
sustained part of it's going to be important, no question
about it.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
It is, I mean, and also too at the bottom
of the order. You've got to be able to try
to find some sort of production out of that group.
I mean, Dubond gives you some, but I mean we
talked about it in the first segment. Cam Smith and
the combination of either Jacob Melton or Chas McCormick just
nothing like this paints me to say soon enough needs
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to be the end of the line for Chaz. Offensively,
he's just he's not going to be what he was
in twenty.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Two and ters. The question I have is why he's
not old? Why what happened? What happened? May I mean
because that year, I don't know if it was just
I mean, I'm looking maybe somebody who's got a little
more expertise at it. You know, who's a hitting instructor
for them, you know they're hitting coach and Alex or anybody.
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I don't know, maybe Steve Sparks knows. But you know,
we could talk about will you change this or reopened
his stance more it used to be closed. Well when
he closed his stance was closed two years ago and
he played it was it two years three, two years ago.
This is the third season where he had his not
last year before we had his big year, right, was
that his big year hitting the ball? Twenty three year? Right,
So yeah, twenty three and then some of twenty four
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up it was like not to say, and then this
year it's just saying he's not been good at the
plate consistently. And so I see, know we all watched
the closure, stance, open it more, you late, trying to
pull everything. He was at his best in twenty twenty
three and he sit in the ball to the right
side of second base, period and he was one of
the best on the team at doing it. And I
don't know. I mean, like I said, I'm not you
know when we say expert enough, we watch it, we
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see it. But as far as people around him in
a cage or why talking to him, those close to him,
you sat understanding, Okay, what is the difference? Is he
lacked confidence? Is his bat speed as he slowed down?
What the hell is going on here? But he's only
I mean, you're not worried about Chas McCormick in the
lineup if you're an opposing pitcher, And in twenty twenty
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three he were. He delivered time and time him again.
And to the point is when he came back the
next year. If you remember, everybody said this year, no
doubt he's your starter. And remember then it fluctuated. Hell,
even going into the year when Jake Myers got to start,
when it's like, well, you kept you kept asking, well,
why Chris chaz Is And you know what, Jake Myers
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now is a better hitter. And it's not real close
right now than if I had told you that two
years ago. You laughed and said, dude, you don't watch
any baseball, are you all right? But it's it's odd
to see because I root for the guy because I
think he's you know, he'll does a little bit of everything,
including pitch, which we don't want to see much because
that means that things aren't going well. But I just
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don't know what happened to the consistent bat with him
that was so good at pushing the ball the other
way with power, and something changed. And I don't know
if it's a mechanical flaw or if it's a confidence thing,
but there's something missing from him at the plate. I'm
not even sure he thinks he's going to drive the
ball when he gets in the batter's box, which is
a bummer for him. We've all been there, but this
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has been sustained for a few minutes now over the
last year and a half, two years.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Frustrating to see, that's for sure. You'd love to see
if you can get some sort of production out of him.
Here down the stretch, Stephen on the southwest side, see
you right there, Get you involved in the conversation.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
You want to join him?
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Someone three two one two five seven ninety against someone
three two one two five seven ninety is we're just
getting going here. On a Monday, Sean Salisbury Show, Sports
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Speaker 1 (24:25):
Had to wear the sewn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
If they're gonna go the way that they've done it
the last couple of years, it's gonna go all the
way to the deadline for them, and then they'll have
the deluge of here's the what thirty three or however
many cuts they have to make to go down from
ninety to fifty three. Whatever the math is for that,
you can figure that out on your own. But anyway,
that's what the Texans have. I had I was looking at.
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You know, you got to have a sense of humor.
Although it's tough, and I know it hurts but Ben Denucci,
who's been a quarterback in the NFL, well, he's had
cups of coffee at some places with the Cowboys as
a third string guy for a minute, is like like
seven different teams, if you know.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
But I love his grind. It's a hard sport, right,
really all of them are hard to be a pro.
But he shows he's at an airport and there's a
big picture of a beer on just poured into his
nice mug on tap and his glass, and he says,
not many beers better than the airport one. I just
got cut from the NFL for the seventh time. Beer.
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Trust me, you wouldn't understand. And I'm like, they wouldn't understand.
But you know, I love his grind, the sense of humor.
It's the beer. When you get cut, you're going to
the airport to fly home. That's what that beer is.
And he's and you know what, stay on the grind
until they force you out till you can't do it
and tell you or tell you don't love it. Right,
if you still love competing and somebody signs you, keep
doing it, keep trying to make their team, keep getting paid.
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If you love it now, if you finally said after
seven times, that's enough. I understand that as well. But
just the fact that he puts the beer up there
as big as the airport beer. It's that I just
got cut from an NFL team for the seventh time beer,
And I loved the sense of humor. How else because
the beatdown. And I'm sure he's been on teams where
he felt that he was better than the third string
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guy or the other guy, that he was trying to
be our second teamer right right, and just waiting for
that full opportunity. But I love his grind and you know,
you never know when that resiliency's going to pay off
for you. But he keeps getting signed. But if he
still loves it, do it until you've covered all thirty two.
If that's what you want to do, it's gonna say.
I mean, it worked for Ryan Fitzpatrick. Why wouldn't trying
to think who else out there? Then you play specialize
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in being in a journeyman. That's okay. It's the you know,
you go to Jamie Moyer pitch for a bunch of
teams in his career. I mean, and he was at
hell and had Rich Hill's had a hell of a career. Yeah,
and when you're pitching that long, hey, sometimes you got
to put your pride aside and go do your thing.
So good on Ben. I thought it was a really
clever tweet considering this time of year where for some
they'll never play again, some they'll never get the opportunity,
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and his approach to it was really engaging, man. And
it sucks because anybody that's been cut on a last
cut knows what he's going through. You see when we
say last cut that, and now they've changed it. You
used to have one cut where you're down from one
hundred to eighty five, and you're down to that and
the final cut what used to be there was like
seven spots left and you after the last preseason game,
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you're waiting. And anybody that's been there knows the when
coach says, hey, coach wants to see you, you know
that's a that's us that that and you think, man,
I know I've done enough to make it this team
this year, and you get that. That's not a fun
one man, And so good on Ben Denucci for is engaging,
you know, humor in light of a really tough situation
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when somebody looks at you and says you're not good
enough to play for me, even though you are. It's
just sometimes a numbers game. It can be a bummer,
but good on him.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
It's like I remember the season that the Cincinnati Bengals
were on hard Knocks and their turk's name, I still
remember his name, Jim Lippincott, and he wants to go
cut a guy and the guy was like, they say why,
He's like, oh, it's ability. It's like I would have
punched you in the face, Like like, what.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
The hell is that to say to someone? Yeah, to
look at the say so, it's just you're not talented, right,
I mean, well you signed, you have not time? Yeah,
lie to me, then tell me. Just a numbers game.
Touching in assault case on this guy makes more money
or you don't make you make too much money. And
we got a guy's see, we're gonna play the room.
We're going to keep the rookie who's who's making a
lot less? Whatever it is, Hey, talent, Yeah, just let's production,
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not enough reps or that's just unf what they usually use.
It's a numbers game. Sure, you know it's not dayless.
It's a numbers games, of course, yeah, right, But the
bottom line is that what you're basically telling me, he's
up fifty three other Cats were better than me, or
three at my position or five at my position, and
that's okay, But that I've always just said, like you
would with the recruit I I've always said, you're gonna
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go a lot further in the business, just being honest
with players. Players know, play players in the building. No,
and before we go to break and I know we're
gonna come back and hit a lot of baseball in
Texans as well. I'm one I've been on Wreckers saying,
you know, I don't care where you think should or
Sanders was going to get drafted. Stop with the he
should have been drafted in the first, the first pick
of the draft. People just stop it, just just frigging
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stop it. He's got some talent, he's got some limitations.
He had that first good preseason game, and so did
Jackson Dart and so did Shook and so did I
mean that happens, and so don't put him in a
Hall of Fame. After one preseason game when I saw
people say, yeah, he should have been drafted first out
of camelod you don't get drafted, then shouldn't stop The
thirty two owners got together and called up and said, hey, man,
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don't talk to the police. Just stop this. Can you
just stop it now and stop the after this preseason game.
It's yep, Coach the fancy called play so Joe so
fail and Dylan Gabriel would succeed. Stop it. Just stop
it from your from your basement or stop it. It's
a it's a It is such a poor, embarrassing look
for the people who say this. That doesn't mean should
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Sanders isn't a good player, doesn't mean he's not going
to be better than Dylan Gabriel, doesn't mean he's not
going to take the job from Joe. I don't know
what's going to happen with Shedeur Sanders, but there's a
reason he didn't get drafted, And the reason he didn't
draft in the first round was simply because they didn't
feel he was a good enough player. Now Tom Brady
drafted in six. Look how his career turned out. I'm
not saying he's Brady. You never know what the course
of the trajectory of your career is going to be, right,
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but would you plead with these people, would you would
you stop it? Because I can tell you this. I've
seen a million quarterbacks have the first preseason game that
Shedeur Sanders said a million, I was one of them.
Every single guy that's played, that's got an opportunity and
played more than one year or two years, fortunately ten.
We've had preseason games as a young player that we were
like you walk out of a scene. I was this
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was a good game, even though deep down you still
missthrows and made poor decisions but made a completion. Sure,
I'm just going to tell you this. If you took
his name, not that he's not good, but take away
the pomp and circumstance leading into the draft, the last
name and everything that surrounds it. And when you say
the people so oh you don't think he can play, Yes,
he can play. I don't know if he's going to
ever be a starting quarterback in the league, be a journeyman.
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Because I'm not there in camp. I know this that
I usually trust NFL players than the guy sitting in
his living room that watches on TV one game out
of eight. So no, no disrespect. It'd be the same
thing like me coming to you and saying, are you
coming to me? And saying, uh, some guy who played
in the third grade and come saying, well, Sean, I
know which we hear it all the time, Chip when
I talked Shawn, I know more about the position of you. No,
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you actually don't. But that's okay. You telling me that
would be like me going to Jeff Bezis and say, dude,
let me teach you how to make money. Okay, you
know it's the same thing, And it's the same thing here.
Don't insult. And that doesn't mean you don't know football.
Nobody said the person does know football, but you don't know.
You folks sitting in your living room at home right now,
do not know more football than Kevin Stefanski and the
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staff and the players. You just don't. And if your
job's on the line, you usually want to play your
best player. And the thought that after just should or
should be shot starting, No, he shouldn't. Matter of fact,
if you do that, then he'll get discovered quickly why
he shouldn't be, and you'll find yourself saying get his
ass out of the league. He's not ready, just like
a bunch of them.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Mart.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
But the thing I know about this this constant a
draft pick drafted this late. Who's really a third string
guy or a developmental guy on a roster right now,
in the history of football, nobody's ever got more attention
to this. And after I watched this, watch the response
to this preseason game. You go on there and you
see it's like the narrative is unreal. And the fact
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that I can tell you this name. If his name
was Schadur Jones, Schadure Michaels, Schadeur Stone, I'm just naming
Schadur Matthews after this preseason just just what you saw,
do you know, you'd say, man, hopefully he gets it.
Hopefully he gets picked up by somebody and gets a
chance on a practice squad, got some potential, or he's
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a third guy, developmental guy. That's all you'd say. You
wouldn't be talking about starter and should have been the
first picked. I'm just telling you. Unfortunately for him, the
expectations going in and he enhances it with his attitude.
You know, with this he likes the flare. I mean,
he's not a good guy. That's just how he's been.
He's been around it his whole life, as Pops has
had that. He's not his pops, but so I don't
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think she understands the bad guy. I just think there's
some things that he probably needs to focus in a
little bit. But I did broke down tape and stuff
after his first preseason game. He did some good things.
But the stuff that's surrounding the expectations, dude, he'd urinate
down is like if he had to go play in
the NFL, right, he's not ready. But the fact that
if his name was Shaudur Matthews right now, nobody'd be
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saying a word. They'd be saying yeah, they'd be saying,
you're we can hear you on the air, triple E,
you can't, I can't. Yeah, I can hear I tripley,
I can hear their Yeah. That's okay, Okay, well you're
good anyhow. So but my point is is that it's
unfair to the kid, and it's it's unfair to the kid,
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but it's also it's it's embarrassing that we are having
this conversation. So, well, if you should do it, should
be the starter, and he's earned it. What and Stefanski
put him in a bad position on purpose to play
third string quarterbacks in the preseason third or first string
quarter you know what they get. You get the third
string lineman. That's how you do, especially when you don't
have a chance of snowballs, chance in hell to be
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the starter. You get those guys in the last preseason
game and you're the third or fourth quarterback on the roster,
fourth because of Kenny Pickett. That that's the people you get.
We've all dealt with it. And if his last name
was Matthews, we would just say what about man, got
some potential. Maybe down the road he can be a player.
You wouldn't be having this argumentation, right, give the kid
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a break. But also this nonsense of well why is
he not playing with the first ringers because the first
ringers don't play in the fourth quarter of the third
quarter of a preseason game because they're resting because the
one got hurt. You know, he'd say, what the hell
is Andrew Berry and Stefanski doing play in the lineman,
Guchey should give Teller their first string tackle or guard.
Put him in there so we Wyatt Teller's in there
with shor No, he's a third or four string quarterback
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trying to make a team, not trying to start, trying
to make a friggin team. Don't be that friggin stupid people.
Oh I've said it. You don't know more than Kevin Stefanski. Sorry,
but you don't, no matter how much tape you watch
at home. Okay, it's ridiculous. And nor does the third
grade guy no more than Dan Orlofsky. Okay, the guy
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who played in Pop Warner or coaches elementary school football,
you don't know more. My favorite, that's my favorite. When
Chip Tipper like, yeah, great, you you led Little league
in hits when you were in twelve, but you know
how to hit better than Tom Jones.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Tell me, tell me how good you are in yourself. Yeah,
just just frigging stop it, grab a beer and shut up. Okay, Steven,
like Sean mentioned about getting back into the Astros conversation,
we'll get you on board here. You want to join them?
seOne three two on two five seven ninety, can it?
Sebone three two on two five seven ninety, Sewn Salisbury
Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues, and you know no, now
you know, was watching Tommy Fleetwood, who has handled this
his He's been like thirty sometimes in his career. He's
been the top five and not won it, and we've seen,
we've seen down the stretcher. He's been in position over
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the last month and a half to close out events
with leads three up, down to two to play and
have lost them late. Heartbreaking to a guy who's that
was almost as like one hundred and sixty fifth tournament
on the PGA. He's won in other tours in different
parts of the world. He just hasn't won as PGA
tour play and he's he's gonna be on the Ryder Cup.
He's always in the top ten on the money list.
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He's a great player. He just have been able to
close it out. Dude, he's coming down the stretch. He's
got three stroke lead with two to go. I'm thinking,
don't let can't ley make and can't lay? Can't lay
still out there standing over his ball. By the way, dude,
do you talk about slow play A friggin enough? Okay,
Plus he goes to UCLA, so no shock there anyway,
or went to UCLA, but the hell of a player.
But I'm thinking for Fleetwood, please, dude, please do this.
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The crowd on an American soil, it was monstrous. All
the players are waiting around from there was no guy
on tour that people wanted to win more, almost to
a point where if you're Scotti Scheffler that didn't play
his best golf yesterday, you're like, no big deal man.
That guy deserved to win this tournament, right, And I
was so happy, so happy for Tommy Fleewood. He's handled
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losses and failures with dignity and grace and respect, gone
back to work, never made an excuse. And I'll be
damned if he didn't close out yesterday and in big fashion,
win in by three strokes. It was impressive. Loved it,
and I couldn't have been. I stood up in my
room cheering him.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Man.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
I couldn't have been more happy for a guy to
get that win. Plus he only made, not counting the
bonuses that are on his bag for the clubs he
plays at, all that other stuff when they have that
ten million in cash yesterday, man, ten million good on nice,
nice payday, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
So working out well for him, all right, So Steven Arthur,
we'll work you guys in to start the seven o'clock
hour as one to be able to hit it.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
So we'll do that.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Get back into the Astros conversation. Also some Texans and
Steve Spark's going to join us an hour from now
for his weekly visit. All of that here on a
Monday edition The Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 4 (38:46):
Isn't it always great when you're starting off at intuition
pays off. We're starting off at seven o'clock in the morning,
and this show get up, comes on and as my
lips as as like you said, when you say your
lips to God's ears. Yeah, guess what their lead story is,
God to Door Sanders Sabotage. Guess what, Sean, here's your payoff,
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ladies and gentleman. The only four string quarterback in history
to start as a rookie. I mean it's a rookie
and he got a chance that I said, I like
Schod Door centers. I think he does. I'll tell you
one thing. He is in the pocket, he's tough as hell,
He's took a lot of hits and delivered the football,
but he's not ready to play. It's not a big
big deal. And once again, so can you imagine Stefanski
did this put Shad door Sanders in and all of
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a sudden he tells those four his five starters up front, Hey, guys,
get back in the game. Yeah, get back in the game. Well, why,
Coach Wood would would We wouldn't do that if Kenny
Pickett was coming in the in the in the third
or fourth quarter, or it's the last preseason game. I've
checked out, my pads are off. Put him back on. Why? Well,
because we got to make sure that our fourth string quarterback.
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That did we make sure that he gets to work
with the number ones in the final preseason game. No,
none of us did at that age as a rookie.
That's just stop it. And I'm a guy who's you
don't have to root for failure for Shador Sanders. To
be honest in his analysis, he played pretty damn good
inness one preseason game. He played okay this last one,
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but their mind was, man, this was just a formality
to get another guy in. Shador Sanders wasn't moving up
the depth chart. They drafted Dylan Gabriel ahead of him,
so of course he's gonna get more work. That's that
as a guy who's been in that league in that position,
the guy they draft and pay more is gonna get
more work and less. All of a sudden, that guy,
two guys get hurt and you get an opportunity. You
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play all the preseason games. It's like, damn, look what
we discovered and should remind up being a player right now.
Shadoor Sanders is a developmental type player that's got some potential.
But to sit here and talk about sabotaging him in
the last preseason game because they didn't give him number
ones are the same people that would have buried Stefanski
for asking the starting people to go back out on
the field and play with him, right, come on, man,
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and then you.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
Know so course, then you can't forget about them going
ahead and doing the kiddie pool thing. These talking head
TV shows are the shallow end of the pool.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Well, I just want people to know that they're not
going to talk one ounce about the x's and o's
about this Shu or Sanders, So you know what they're
going to talk about. No, he did this sabotage. It's
this they don't like him. It's because it's like, can
we stop with this? Well, then of course you shouldn't
be leading your story or your show off with a
four string quarterback.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
That that is uh no, there they're leading it off
talking what they always talk. Oh, Michael Parsons and the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Yeah, will he suit up for game for for? Edwarder
told me last week he kind of five you need
five people on the set to talk this. Edwarder told
me that he kind of expects last week that you know,
a long time thirty year reporter in Dallas that he
that he thinks that he'll be in uniform playing, but
he won't have a new deal. Then that sounds logically
he's under contract. Yeah, and if they toy it too
much here what said, Jerry has all the leverage. Why
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I can disfranchise you, dude, If you want to sit out,
that's fine, you don't get paid, and I can franchise
tag you. It's it's a whether we like the fact
that he has a leverage or not. He's got all
the leverage. You can franchise tag him and he'll be
one of the highest paid players in the league, top
five at his position. But guess what it'll be for
a one year deal, and he won't get all and
there's no guaranteed signing bonus that you don't have to
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do anything extra. He's going to get the deal done
and Michael Parsons is not going to play for somebody
else this year. Just so you understand, Jerry will get this.
Jerry loves this stuff, friggin loves it. I don't know
if the deal will get done this week. But here's
the problem. As Ed Werder said, Michael Parsons, David Mullagetta,
his agent, and Jerry Jones up until as of Friday,
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they had not talk since March. Contract wise, Now think
it since March, all the pomp and circumstance. Right now,
you see Mike on the field talking to Jerry for
a second, but sports related, football related, and not talk
since March. That's what Ed said. It adds an insider.
So there you have it. Man, it's a but we're
leading with stuff of I understand the Parsons saying because
he's the difference maker and a game wrecker. But some
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of the things we choose to talk about, it's it's
a it's a borderline embarrassment.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Can't wait till they bring in Lebron and the Lakers too.
Somehow tell that'll they'll get weaved in today. Yeah, for sure,
someone three two, one, two, five seven ninety the number
to get in. Astros lose three to two yesterday to
the Orioles and take three out of four in Baltimore.
They're now two games up on the Mariners in the West.
Speaking of the Stros, that's where Steven wants to go
to get us going this morning. Good morning, Stephen, good morning.
Speaker 8 (43:27):
I love the show.
Speaker 9 (43:28):
I love the Astros. I've got a couple of points
to make. I agree with you, Val Smith, but he
is an excellent right field or as good as you
can get.
Speaker 8 (43:36):
Now.
Speaker 9 (43:37):
One thing I think about the Astros there, you know
that Jaymer they're paying this back to Silo eighty seven
million dollars. How much is jaymer Dine.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
The is worth now?
Speaker 9 (43:47):
I mean the guy in heavy's starting to throw out
base runners, and the acquisitions I made walk coming through.
He's got Karag's leading the team at hitting he's hitting
like three fifty since they got him. Rays is a
great sight and basement and Sanchez is a good left
handed hitter. Now yesterday was disappointed because now.
Speaker 10 (44:05):
Toby left them.
Speaker 9 (44:07):
You know, they guy the man on third base and
one out, they don't score him. They have a rookie
in and some one fifty hitter hits the whole run
and then and they you know, Aarraghetty had his best
out in the of the year as far as I'm concerned.
I mean, he had a rough first inning, but he
didn't give up the hit till the sixth inning again,
so it's a tough loss on his point. And Smith,
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I mean Walker, he just just hit the whole run
by an engine. He did even get him all of
the ball. So I think we're in pretty good shape.
When whenever we get the Jake and Parades and Alt
runs back on the same, you know, if they're around
in the playoffs, we're going to be hard to beat.
So everything looks pretty good to me. So that's all
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I've got to say. Gentlemen. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
I appreciate Steven. You're going to get two out of
those three. You're not going to get east sock pretis back.
I mean he was with the team last week when
they were in town, but I mean where at least
one of the opinions medically Sean was to opt for surgery.
And then I guess they got somebody who gave him
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enough of an opening to say, well, he could rehab
and maybe have a chance. But at this point, I mean,
you're not going to get him doing anything baseball related
that you feel like he's going to be in position
to be able to help you out.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
Will not be on the same field this year together now,
but you're don will You're you're not. But he's so right,
praidus was a we we now realize and I think
we understood it when he was here at the way
was playing, but we realized how an important part of
this team he actually was at the plate phenomenal he
really was. What a great get it'd be he'd be.
He'd be a big difference maker if he was in
this lineup right now. Boy. And that's the thing too.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
As I mentioned last week, I mean, you sorely missed
him for the longest time, and I'd probably say that
this weekend was the first time that I think this
lineup actually looked capable without him, because for the longest
time since he got hurt, that group had really struggled
without him in there. For the at bats, he would
give you just the you know, seeing seven eight pitches
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in that bat taking it. I mean it was almost
any single time you could just put him in the
box with a three to two count and you know
he was going to at least give you some sort
of a valuable plate appearance, either a walk. You know,
maybe he makes it out, but still he saw a
lot of pitches.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
And it's even when you said they would you say
not serviceable? Would you call the lineup you said they
became capable. I would even say formidable on Friday and Saturday. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. So you're exactly right, and
they are capable. The key is taking that capability and
matching it with all that with the production, which they
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did Friday and Saturday. And you know, you face good pitching,
it's going to get in your way a little bit.
But I thought they were really really good over the
weekend for sure. Someone three two one two music in
your No, okay, no, it's weird. I don't know what's
I got an alien in my in my ear. I
was gonna say, yeah, I think I think you got
a ghost or something over there. Yeah, I don't know.
(47:06):
It's a trip, man. Yeah, it's weird. Maybe it's just you. No,
it isn't, it's I'm not. I'm not guessing because the
Triple Leaven got here. It's just there's music in your ear. So, yeah,
who's that person next to you?
Speaker 6 (47:16):
See?
Speaker 4 (47:16):
I just heard that again there? Yeah I did. There
you go. It's a trip people, It's not an inside joke,
because it may be. It's a trip. Yeah, technology's going
haywired aliens are there.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
There's somebody who's about to get off the loop at
Ella and they're like, the hell's he talking about?
Speaker 4 (47:31):
Yeah, Shawna, you okay this morning? Not yeah, I'm fine.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Somebody right now, somebody somebody driving over to you know,
Waltrip High School right there, and they're like, the hell
is Sean talking about?
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Speaking of do yourself a favor. Look at the new
high school that they built in Frisco Tech in Frisco,
Texas up there near the Pallas Just go and look
at the the look at the pig there show video. Dude,
it is going to boggle your mind. Just look at
say new what's the new high school in Frisco? Google
it during the break and you folks at home and
you want to see what these kids, Man, these kids
(48:03):
need but need more. You see, It's it's like they're there.
The u c l A was plopped in the middle
of Frisco, Texas and then some The technology is crazy.
Go check that out. Speaking to schools we got Arthur
wants to talk a little football. That's it here he is,
Arthur in Spring wants to weigh in. Good morning, Arthur, good.
Speaker 8 (48:21):
Morning, Good morning man son. I'm a hold my composer, man.
I I thought I'd never feel this way about you, man,
but you know you begining to sound like Matt Thomas.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Well wait a minute, about about about what? Well, well,
let me ask you this because Arthur, look, let's be
honest about this. If you've never listened or watched me
and I did I do another show, the National Show that,
unlike everybody else, I've broke it down. Senor Sanders played
good football in the first preseason game. Are you is
this a race thing for you? Or do you think
you know more football than I do? Because unfortunately for you,
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and I like you. You've come around from being from
the label that people gave you when you called in
here that we give you a chance to fix, and
now you're going. But I can tell you this, you
don't have any idea if it comes to Shooters. Sanders
performed about breaking him down like I do. You just
don't and you never will. So becoming like him, I said,
the kid's got a chance to be a good player.
If you think he should be starting, you're out of
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your mind. Secondly, I looked at you know, he played
in the third and fourth quarter. Find me another preseason
quarterback that's the fourth quarterback on the roster, fourth quarterback
on the roster that gets to play with the first
teamers in the last preseason game in the fourth quarter.
You find me him. And when you do, you and
I have a conversation. He says, Yep, that's fair. What
in the world did he do that would warrant him
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from getting the first teamers in the second half of
the last preseason game. No, whether it's him or Harry
hatch As has not to do. And you're going to
make it about the color of his skin, which you know,
damn well, don't embarrass yourself by coming on here talk
color of skin when it comes to me. Ever, that's
the last thing, because you've done it everywhere else. You've
done it.
Speaker 8 (50:00):
What you're talking about, you're not even letting me told.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Well, because we've heard you before.
Speaker 8 (50:04):
You you're insinuating, and you're speculating as to what you
think about what you've said.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
Think about what you said. This is my show, not your,
So you're gonna listen or hang up. You're you're a guest.
You're not a guest, you're a caller. I can mute again. No,
I'm not spect I've heard you've come on this show
before in the past, and i've heard if it was
a you've made it a black and white issue forty
seven times, and we've given you the op you have
given you. No, you make it a black and white issue.
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If somebody eat angel food cake and not chocolate cake,
you're piss because you think they're racist. So shut your
mouth for a second if you want to get your
chance to talk. Okay, you're laughing, you're laughing over here,
but here, No, this is my show, not yours. All
over I'm supposed to get paid to talk for four
hours you're you're a guest. Uh no, you're a caller.
I've given you opportunity. Matter of fact, we weren't going
(50:55):
to put you on. As you see, whose show is it?
Speaker 6 (50:59):
You're her mine?
Speaker 4 (51:01):
Okay, I'm not doing it. Put him on mute. Shut
him up for a second. Put him on mute. Here's
what I do know about him. He's done this a
million times. I told you this during the break. I
even asked tripley, is this the race call or a
legitimate call? Oh, I think it's a legitimate call, which
we all did, so we put him on. He's I've
seen this movie on this show before. It doesn't matter.
He trapes that way. And that's why Jump. Well, you
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didn't give me a chance to talk. Now, why else
would you be calling? He said? And here's what he said, Well,
Sean man Camp, I've never thought i'd feel like this
you before. This is what he says on the show.
And he's talking about a football player not getting reps.
He's taking it personal. I would say it about I
wouldn't have done done the same thing. If you're the
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fourth quarterback of the third quarterback of the team, you
ain't getting reps with the first team in the last
preseason game. I'm just sorry you're not. We got to
get ready for our season and I got to keep
my guys healthy. It wouldn't matter if it was Jackson Dart,
it wouldn't matter if we shoot it. And I've said
it on here as much a million times, and I
lived it. I was the guy when I a rookie
who had to take snaps with the third train guys
as the quarterback playing in the fourth quarter. I was
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the guy. And we've performed my ass off as a rookie,
performed my ass off as a rookie trying to and
I had to. There are six quarterbacks on the roster
and I was not drafted because I'd blown out my
knee twice, so bo had I had to play great
every day in preseason. Now, I wasn't a great player
at the time, and I was not ready to play.
Even though I had an out of my mind preseason
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which I had to have to play, I still had
to play with second, third guy string guys. So yeah,
Arthur doesn't give as a matter of fact, that tell
Arthur wants to come on here and talk normal because
I knew it was coming. Because I've heard this movie before,
and I'm the one during all this who told Arthur,
bring Arthur back and allow him before you got on
the show, and allow him back in to try and
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prove his point that he's just not calling to say this, Arthur,
for you to even trapes there is ridiculous, and you
will never get on this show again unless you come
on normal, respectful and without without this thing point. I
never thought, well, Arthur, I never thought you'd come on
here start talking quarterback play. That's so far above your head.
You're drowning. We're going to break. If you want to hold,
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you hold, I'll decide when you get back on the air.
In the meantime, I'll put fifteen others on and they'll
be mixed races and colors. Arthur. Oh, they'll be from
the Mexican in black and white community, and none of
them we'll worry about Shador Sanders being the fourth quarterback
and getting extra snaps. It happens all over the country
with every one of us. Yeah, Sewn Salisbury Show, Sports
(53:32):
Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 8 (53:38):
And it no no now you know.
Speaker 4 (53:45):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there?
Speaker 11 (53:47):
Now the Salsbury takeout, Salsbury's takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4 (53:59):
Real quick, Dan, Now we turn on the TV and
I will turn the sound up. Dan Orlowski, who is
a football guy, turns on the tape and I'm thinking,
please break this down properly, and they're leading with Shador Sanders,
and he's exactly right. He went through the second half
tape this past weekend and Shadeur Sanders ran himself into
trouble he had and Dan's breaking down standing the guy
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is sitting right there in front of you, throwing the ball,
throw the ball away, broken down as a football and
Dan likes. I think Dan has some affinity for Shudeur Sanders.
I think just like in the first game that they
played the preseason, he liked some of the things he did,
as did I. My whole thing is not Shade Sanders.
It's we're talking about a fourth or fifth string guy,
fourth string quarterback right now, or a third string guy
that just doesn't get the fact that they're saying they
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sabotaged him is fair. He was drafted after Dylan Gabriel.
Kenny Pickett is a veteran there. I mean, hell, the
guy behind him can make the argument. Tyler Huntley, who
led the winning drive this past weekend and just got cut.
The man don't know. I'm a veteran in the league,
don't I have some say about this. Who's been a
good player as he was a Baltimore backup. He's in
Miami as well, but he was in Baltimore. He won
some game, he won some games for Baltimore, did did hotly.
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So my point is this has nothing to do It's
just the fact that right now, if Shedeur Sanders was
at shaduor Sanders, he'd be getting the pub that all
of us third stringers got. When we first broke in
the league. The award first round picks, we didn't get
much action with the first groups. It's normal, especially for
a guy who was drafted that late. He's just not
going to get the work. Now if he's a first
round pick and he wasn't getting getting hammered around, different story.
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But he's the guy that you go in and mop up,
like every backup or third string quarterback did this this fall,
I mean this last preseason game. That's just the way
it works.
Speaker 6 (55:38):
Man.
Speaker 4 (55:38):
You don't get to work with the number ones in
the fourth quarter of the last preseason game. So the
sabotage that the Browns are sabotage in s Shedeur Sanders
is an embarrassment. But I'm one that believes Shoeddear Sanders
can be a player. I don't care. I think he's
got great energy.
Speaker 11 (55:50):
I do.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
I like the kid, but we got to stop putt
him in the Hall of Fame after one game. People
saying he should have been the starter. No, he's not ready,
just like Dylan Gabriel is not ready to be the starter.
And Gabriel just had two games a little bit better,
the second one better than should Sanders did. No big deal.
But he was also drafted in front. He's gonna get
more looks. That's just the nature of the Beast. So
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it's the way we do this. It's ridiculous. Should Sanders
has got a chance to be okay in the future
and a chance to be good, but it's going to
take a minute, just like it is for most third
string four string quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (56:23):
Yeah, coaches are not in the business of turning away
good quarterback play.
Speaker 4 (56:27):
No they're not. If they are, they're not, they're not
having They won't have a job for long. Right, it's
just silly. You just if you you don't have Tony
and I can't stand when people root for Shoudur Sanders
to fail because of his last name or because he's
a little bit more flashy. If you listen to him talk,
the guy's a good kid man. He really is. Maybe
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probably you know the pre draft stuff where he's got
all the dollar signs, that's okay, doesn't make him a
bad guy, and it also doesn't make him a Hall
of Famer. Give the kid a chance to actually develop
in the league and he's making decisions. I can guarantee
I've been there when you're watching that you're getting hit,
you're not throwing the ball on time, and it all
goes down here and you're like, I don't even know
what to expect, Right, this is just happens to everybody.
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It happened to Tyler Huntley, and Huntley's been a veteran
in the league. So it's just silly. We've got a
narrative that it's not right in this situation with him.
Let the kid learn he's not ready to play. Neither
is Dylan Gabriel. But Gabriel is going to get a
quicker look because he was drafted higher, and he's played
decent in the preseason.
Speaker 5 (57:25):
Situations like this, Sean, it reminds me of especially on
social media, which I'll steal a line from Rossville Reale.
It's an ocean of stupidity. Is I think that people
either one unintentionally probably I'll give you a little bit
of a benefit of the doubt, want to be stupid
because it's easy to be stupid, and the other one
(57:46):
is to be surprised. There's people who frankly should know
better saying some things on social media that I'm like,
have you even been around this league?
Speaker 11 (57:55):
Like?
Speaker 4 (57:56):
Have you even really covered this league to understand how
this thing works? I just to me, I give everybody
an opportunity to voice there if I do, and I'll
listen to people I should not listen to at times
I should. Well, I'll give people a platform my mind
that I'll say, I'll answer this question on social media,
although I shouldn't because I know the direction that person's going.
(58:16):
But just stop it. Arthur doesn't know more than Kevin
Stefanski or you or me. Okay, sorry to tell him that.
It just doesn't when it comes to this. But if
he wants to come on here. The reason why because
you know, we know what nickname he's carried around because
he does that. And he's been on Matt Thomas forever
for no reason, Okay, because he just doesn't like him.
But to come on and say, man, I never thought
i'd feel this way about you. What because my football
(58:39):
opinion is different than yours. I know the direction he
was going because he goes there. But he's over the
last ten times he's called, he's actually gone in a
better direction, but this one, and we know why because
that's who he's been so until he proves over history.
So that's it. He come back on to talk. But
if he wants to come on a talk and tell
me what makes Shador a great player right now, I'll listen.
If he wants to come on and give me some
(59:00):
stupid narrative, I don't have time to listen to the
nonsense anymore. And I'm not giving callers that don't have
a clue, or that have a clue but go somewhere
down a rabbit hole that they don't want to get
the hole shut up on them. I'm not doing that anymore.
I'm not wasting four hours on the show for a
lazy narrative that goes around the country that's embarrassing not
doing it, not doing it, and guess what, I don't
(59:22):
have to neither do you. Okay, but when we have ya,
it's we put all. Nobody gives more respect to callers
in this city, in the country for than we do.
But when you, when you jump over it, then guess
what You're going to get treated exactly the way you
treat it. I assure you I've been I've been a
kinder jettler, Sean something on the show I got news
(59:43):
for you. Don't push me to that because it will
not be fun. Okay, you want to do that. We
can have this battle all friggin day because they think
I'm afraid to be well, Sean was mean today, Well
get in line. Okay, you haven't seen the prick and
me that you'll see if you keep on pushing this
stupid narrative that goes around society for every single thing
we do. And I'm sick of it. I am actually
sick of every single time race, religion, gender politics that
(01:00:06):
everybody has a narrative on that I don't. But if
you want to go there, I will bury your ass
on this show fair warning period. Well, at least you're
not Avery Johnson's dad or brother either, because for people
that fight at stadiums and in stadiums, that situation now.
But you're looking at like at the there was a
baseball game over that would no, Well, football get packers bears.
(01:00:28):
I mean, guys are getting played. They're beating the hell
out of each other, a presedon game in the stands.
Football is not sports. Isn't that important. I don't like
sports enough to fight to fist fight somebody in the stands.
I just don't. Hell, I don't even like sports enough
to battle on where you're getting an all out argument
over a dog on phone call. I don't like sports
that much for that either. Banter and good energy is
(01:00:51):
great past the point in my career where I got
to fight with somebody, Oh I got to prove that,
I got to prove anything, okay, other than I'm working
hard and going to be here. But I refuse. I
will not let anybody traps on the stupidity anymore at
any point in time. If you come on with that,
with that a lazy narrative, you're gonna get treated just
like that. Off, done and gone. Period. And if you
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got a problem with it, this studio is right here.
You come on and we'll have a good banter conversation person,
so we can get past the lazy narratives. Just come
with something that actually fits. Okay, and that ain't it?
Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
Sorry, Well, usually they say the low man wins. Usually
in those stadium fights, it's the other way around. It's
if you got the upper upper position, you've got the
upper hand. Literally, who fights at a preseason game in
the stands?
Speaker 6 (01:01:38):
Dude?
Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Booze obviously yez. I never thought it'd be against it,
but you get to place like if people can most
people are really good, but you'll get that two percent
they got to fight in the stands while their wives
or girlfriends or kids are there. It's like, are you guys,
this stupid over the dumb ass preseason even if it's
a regular season game. I don't love football or sports
enough to fistfight the person sitting next to me over
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a over a game against a rival. Ever, now I
quit sports, beer, quit talking about it. If I had
to fight every time you went to work, can you
imagine that misery? It would not be fun.
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Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
John Innaedville wants to weigh in. John. Good morning man.
Speaker 8 (01:03:50):
Look, I'm o key, just short, sweet and simple hearty
your I'm not gonna call names. I'm not gonna go
to your level, but you set the station back fifty years. Man.
Have you watched the man play football? He's what it
was against Caroline, I believe was this first game. He
was playing against the twos and the threes, and he's
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acting like he's playing against all pros out there yesterday
or whenever he played the Rams. He's playing against the twos, threes,
and fours. He can't even hold on to the dead
gun ball. He was given a raw deal because of
his daddy. He was believed to believe the hype We're
gonna retire your number at Colorado. He's got such an
(01:04:35):
uphill battle. He needs to learn more of the game.
He is another Cleveland quarterback that goes out there and
tries to play backyard football. You cannot do that in
the NFL. I think, like Sean said, the coach has
(01:04:57):
just a little bit more insight on what goes on
in practice and in pregaming on tape than what Arthur
does about how Schador Sanders plays. Might know just a
little bit more. Just as I've always said on this show,
a spotter knows a little bit more about baseball. As
much as I don't agree with Dana Brown's takes, he
(01:05:20):
knows more about baseball than all of us. That's why
we're fans, just as Nick and Domico does with the Texans.
But for him to come on here, dude, it's twenty
twenty five. It's not twenty twenty no more nineteen. Dude.
Quit that's your favorite thing to do is throw the
(01:05:42):
race card. Quit man, it's tiresome, it's stupid. It's idiotic, man,
And just for him to sit there and to say that,
and just like people saying they're sabotaging his career. Dude,
he wasn't that good in college. He's a great Yeah. Absolutely,
(01:06:04):
I watched him when he was with You know, my
son grew up at the same age as he was
and watching his little high school you or whatever the
hell it was called. We'd have to watch it here
at the house too. But that's where it's just the
guy's given a rology. I don't know, man, I'm just
I'm just dumbfound that people are still calling sports talk
(01:06:26):
radio shows and play in the race card. You want
to play the race card, go down the aisle to
their station and play it there with those jack offs
over there. Y'all have a great week, guest.
Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Thank you very much, John Listen. Like I said, I
give people even had We've had calls on this that
have narratives and constant and we just put him back
on because I like to give people an opportunity. I'm
not a gruds holder. I'm just not. Arthur's just been
doing it too long. And then then he's like Okay,
let's talk sports, and he's been great, and then all
of a sudden he comes in and you know when
you call him, oh, that's not where I was going.
(01:07:02):
He didn't give me a chance talk. I know where
he was going, or he wouldn't even be talking about
it because he's not here. That's the one thing that
got him going this morning, the fact that Kevin Stefanski
knows more, and that backup, third and four string quarterbacks
don't get work with the first team in the fourth
quarter of the last Preseaon game. It's silly. I didn't know.
It's not like I jumped out front didn't let him talk.
The reason I didn't let him talk because the world
would have been stupor much more stupid hearing it. I
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award him no points, and may God have mercy on
his soul. Okay, we're all dumber for having listened to
in twenty twenty five that a pro football quarterback or
a coach is making decisions based on race, because that's
exactly where he was going to go. Right, Ah, he's
doing this, or sabotage him if if it was the
other way. Right, No, it's not. We're past that, and
(01:07:44):
only the people who bring it up are the ones
that got the issue. And I'm talking about the race problem.
Everybody knows where he was going with it. Now I'll
give him another chance to come on here and talk
sports in football, but quit cheapening how I'm important race is.
Quit cheapening how important those types of things are. As
opposed to throw it around like it's just we're just
(01:08:07):
kind of going in, Oh, it's you know, how you
get a penny and you're just like, oh, just leave
it my truck and I'll never use it. Don't don't
throw it around like that like it's disposable. Okay, the
race talk's not disposable, and it doesn't apply here when
it comes to Cleveland and the quarterback position. Regardless of
what he tells you, that's exactly where he was going
because he's done it four hundred times on the show.
(01:08:29):
He's the only guy I know that we've put on
hold four thousand times and it's called seventy four different
numbers trying to get in here. And then we let
him in because he's straightened up his act and now
I wants guy. So if you're a caller, I'll give
you all the lead what you want until you're crazy
enough to lose that opportunity. It's not gonna happen. No,
he's not getting in today because I'm not gonna let
him bore me with his details. Tell him to take
(01:08:50):
a day off and go stand in the corner like
you t do you discipline you're sixteen or your six
year old, and come back and see us tomorrow. Okay, Arthur,
if you're gonna act like a child, I'll treat you
like one. Okay, Well, simple wrong would have been, you know,
just fine, But don't come on here, sir Sean. Yeah,
I never thought i'd say this about you. What that
I know more about football than you? Well, there's a shock, thanks, Arthur. Well,
(01:09:15):
I don't need a pat my stud even I don't
even need to wear it as a badge of honor.
Actually that's not saying much. But you obviously know more
about the other stuff and more than Kevin Stefanski on
making these decisions. Right, that's the only reason Flacco's starting. Now,
don't be that stupid. If you're calling here with stupidity today,
I'm gonna unload on you. So there you go on
a Monday. Be careful. Fair warning, there you go. You're
(01:09:36):
on a Monday.
Speaker 5 (01:09:37):
As Sean just mentioned, all right, let's get into a
little bit of the Texans because the key is very
simple for this team. In twenty twenty five, we'll discuss that.
I'll see right there. You want to get in on
some Texans will allow you to do that. Anybody else
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Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Want to wear the Sean Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
In talking Texans here in the offensive line, Sean, that's
the one thing that coming out of training camp and
getting ready for the season. I mean, you look at
this team across the board, everything else looks like you
can check the box. Secondary linebackers, health, I mean that's
the big thing with them. Of you know who's ready
(01:10:25):
and available for you, and of course running back with
Joe Mixon and you know how much time is he
going to miss all of those different things. But I mean,
you did do your best to sure things up by
adding Nick Chubb and you know, also drafting Woody Marx,
So you feel pretty good about your numbers over there.
The offensive line is the one for me. Where what
is the group of five and how is it going
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to look and how will they play this season? That
it's very simple, Like we were talking about the Astros
lineup earlier, Capability, that's that's all I need. I mean,
we saw it for a little bit in twenty twenty four.
Capable won you ballgames. Where everything else you're talented and
you've got depth at those spots. The offensive line is
the one that I look at and I'm like, what
(01:11:08):
are we going to get? And I kind of get
the shrugging emoji.
Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Well, on a team I don't know, Yeah, on a
team that's loaded at a lot of positions and they're
really good. This is the at least going into the
season because of what they're they're suffering from what last year.
You know they went through. They were a detriment to
the team. Last year. They were not good. They can't
get you can't perform worse than they did last year
when it comes to pre snap penalties and the inconsistency.
They're going to be better now. You got to get
(01:11:33):
a little lucky with health. But that's every team at
every position. If they if you were to say, okay,
go down the checklist of pros versus cons, you might
check in the middle if there's a like, there's a
winner and l it's kind of I think you're sitting
on the fence saying, okay, I think we know that
there's potential there. That's why they made changes. You can
do something if they get the right guy's continuity wise,
but they are better. There was a subtraction has added
(01:11:56):
to them. There's been a plus for them. They needed
to move the left tackle on. They needed to change there.
And Ted Tunsen will do fine for Washington, probably be
in the Pro Bowl, but he just needed to change.
He was getting stale in way too much of the
same stuff. This team needed to be rocked a little
bit at that position. They did. They needed guys to
check them out. You trade the former first round pick
from A and M, you send him to Philadelphia. They
(01:12:17):
needed some change here and a little wake up call,
and they got it. Now, the question you got to
stay healthy. But that is if there is a okay,
I wonder that's the one you wonder. If they're just good,
this team's going to dominate the division. I'm just telling
you that is the perceived weakness around the league is
how good are they, or at least has been the
perceived weakness going into this because of last year and
(01:12:39):
what went on. How good will they be upfront? Can
they keep CJ. Stroud upright? And can they move the
pile and be physical when necessary but also have enough
finesse that they can move their feet and work in
unison together all those things and get proper line calls
and not let basic blitzes get you to the point
and fronts and coverages get you to the point where
you're tripping the can't block basic stuff, basic stunts. So
(01:13:02):
I think they're gonna be I know they're going to
be better. The question is how much better do they
have to be for this team to advance through the playoffs?
So and keep their quarterback up right? I love this
team and I am I'm rooting hard for the offensive
line because every team I've ever been on, if we're
good as a team, you can look back at our
teams and it usually starts with why were you guys
(01:13:23):
good shot? Oh yeah, we had Marcus Allen and we
had you know, Chris Carter and Minnesota Marcus Allen at
USC I can look around. I'm going to tell you
when we're good. Normally, when I was on the ten
years I played in all my years of college, it
all started with well, you were good. Why well Bruce
Matthews and Don Mosbar and you know Roy Foster, three
(01:13:44):
All Americans and first round picks. And then the NFL well,
Gary Zimmerman and Randall McDaniel, two Hall of famers, and
Kirk Cloudermilk, a phenomenal center who didn't get the credit
he deserved. You get my point. Did Usually when the
seed is over, you look back and say, what are
the things you did? The three things that you If
you only got to choose three things, not individuals. As
a unit, you'd say, quarterback played well or great. Right,
(01:14:08):
defense was physical and got you stops and is one
of the better defenses in the league. And your offensive
line played who dominated a line of scrimmage. The rest
will be fine. Quarterback will get average receivers and make
them really good. Stroud can do that. An offensive line
you can't. And now the other side, if you say, okay,
why'd you struggle well on this team? If I say
(01:14:30):
why did they? They won the division? But why didn't
they impact it more. What would your first thing be
the offensive line?
Speaker 6 (01:14:36):
But here we go.
Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
So the same negatives you get are the same reason.
So one thing I'll never, ever, don't ever take for
granted anybody that the success of a team, the long
term and dominant success of a team, usually starts with
knocking somebody in the mouth defensively, a quarterback who can
handle pressure and an offensive line that dominates the line scrimmage.
Who won a Super Bowl last year, Philadelphia Eagles is good? Hey,
(01:15:01):
as good as DeVante Smith and A. J. Brown are?
What are we talking about?
Speaker 6 (01:15:07):
Lane?
Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Offensive line? Saquon Barkley in the running game, the versus
the quarterback played out of it, had a great year
and is great under pressure. He's proved that in two
Super Bowls, and their defense dominated the Kansas City Chiefs.
Every now and then there's the aberration. You get the outlier,
but I got news for it the sub When you
talk about the national champion who won the national title
(01:15:29):
last year, Ohio State, how was their quarterback under pressure?
Under pressure? Yeah he was he was pretty good, Okay,
But how was they How were they at the line
of scrimmas with those two running backs last year? Even
with injuries, still really good and they're one and there
and they're they they dominate. After what happened to Oregon
beat them, they go to the rose ball would they
do to Oregon rush them? And it was physical domination.
(01:15:49):
So it starts there. If that team's good offensive line,
you watch it permeate through the team and the rest
will shine because they've got pieces everywhere else. Definitely working
out wall for him.
Speaker 5 (01:16:00):
I'm one three to two, one two, five seven ninety
real quick, al before we get to Steve Sparks, Good morning, Hey,
what's going on, guys?
Speaker 8 (01:16:07):
Great show?
Speaker 10 (01:16:08):
Hey, sure, you know we had receipts on that offensive line.
We agreed to take a bunch of dogs. Little name
on the back of jersey.
Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
Yep.
Speaker 10 (01:16:16):
I just want to get some get some love to
uh the new offensive coordinator, because you know, sometimes Hull,
you just need a leader in the room to get
some physicality out of those dudes. And I think this
is what he's doing. He turned these dudes into sitting
in the seats to straight up in the boxing en
fighters and all these dudes on this offensive line. You know,
(01:16:38):
mentality is phisical and I'm gonna fight and that's what
we lacked last year. I don't want to say coaching
or whatever, but obviously it's been a coach up thing.
So kudos to the bec'rien grabbing that guy and the
last thing. And I listen to y'all take on it, Sean,
I was beating the drama on Damon Pierce in great job,
was easy to do, and the guys calling the game,
(01:17:00):
and it was just crazy. How Damon Peer if the
gooodie Marsh is good, I'm glad you got it, don't
get me wrong, But they was talking about when Damion
Pierce didn't get the ball. He was talking about, you
do a great job on calling the game. How Damon
Pearce was picking up the blitch because it wouldn't have
have been a couple of blitch pick up blocks the
quarterback sery stream wouldn't have had a chance to make
(01:17:20):
some great those So I'm looking at those things like
that man, Damian Pearce has picked up, you know, being
able to block to get that quarterback enough time to complete.
So these other things I'm looking at show and he
got a great job on picking up some of those blocks.
And Wooded Marsh it's just that smaller guy.
Speaker 6 (01:17:37):
But the leverage.
Speaker 10 (01:17:38):
You gotta have leverage the speed and breaking the run.
It's good, they're all gonna do that, but when it
comes down to the trenches, you needn't have leverage on
a line back of the year to pick up that
block and don't.
Speaker 6 (01:17:48):
Get boat rowed over.
Speaker 10 (01:17:50):
Damion Pierce showed couldn't leverage on some of those blocks,
and I hate them.
Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
And you say, I appreciate the call. I can tell
you this the running back and good point, Alan, thanks,
good to hear your voice.
Speaker 12 (01:17:59):
Brother.
Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
I appreciate you. I can tell you this. They're not
going the one thing that they're not going to lack
this year, as long as they don't have an unbelievable
rash of injuries, they're running back positions as deep as
it's going to get in this league.
Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
Wow, in their front two are monsters, and that was
not the case last year. It was Joe Mixon and
really nobody else. And it's a strength if they're healthy,
that is a strength on this team.
Speaker 6 (01:18:20):
One of them.
Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
No better teacher than to lack numbers at a spot
and then say I gotta do something about that this offseason.
Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
And Nick Ceio did so good on him, all right, let's.
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Now that for the most part this weekend looked like
a team that knows how to swing the bat and
bald flying out of the ballpark. That looked like we've
been waiting on that for all season long, and now
the consistency is sustaining. Was had to be a good
visual for your eyes, Steve.
Speaker 6 (01:21:16):
It was finally the home runs.
Speaker 14 (01:21:19):
You had four extra basis in Detroit in those three games,
but the eight home runs in the four games in
Baltimore was a cypress our eyes. And you know some
of these guys are just starting to pick up the slack.
The two out stuff was evident, and you got Jordan
Alvarez around the corner.
Speaker 6 (01:21:36):
Now it finally looks like this offense is going to
be able to help him out.
Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
Steve, have you been in all the years you've covered
or even played it have you seen a team we
know the potentials there, we know what kind of the
resilience and all that I'm talking about that they've been
that inconsistent, inconsistent to play with the long but just
over the season, with all the injuries, it's been like that.
Have you ever been through one hundred and thirty games
or whatever it's been, and then all of a sudden
the last thirty or forty games seeing a team turn
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it around completely if it gets to that, and sustain
it and carry it through the playoffs. Have we ever
seen that big a discrepancy in your mind in all
the years you've done it?
Speaker 6 (01:22:11):
You know?
Speaker 14 (01:22:12):
It was just good to see that the Astros were
able to capitalize on the three starters who through the
first three games in the Baltimore series. It was young,
Kramer and Covids, right.
Speaker 6 (01:22:25):
These guys fished against the Astros in Houston and they
crushed them. I mean, they absolutely went right through them.
Speaker 14 (01:22:33):
And to be able to make the necessary adjustments that
they needed to this weekend against those three pitchers in particular.
Speaker 6 (01:22:40):
Was a site that they needed to see that.
Speaker 14 (01:22:44):
And I've told you I felt like so far this
season there's been a type of pitcher who's been able
to command that out or third against the right handed
batters with spin, they were going to give them fits.
And we saw it with Flarerty and Detroit. We continue
to see it from time to time. But they made
some really good adjustments against Baltimore on those pictures, and
they were spitting on those pitches out there and waiting
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for those guys to come to the inner third of
the plate, and guys.
Speaker 6 (01:23:09):
Like Perea Christian Walker really took advantage of it.
Speaker 14 (01:23:13):
So that's what I want to see. I want to
see some adjustments. I want to see a little bit
more patience and a better game plan against those types
of pitchers. And I feel like we're starting to see that.
Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
Now, Steve. Was it just as simple as making them
make the pitcher give you what you love to hit
as opposed to hitting a pitcher's pitch. Was it really
just that simple and patient?
Speaker 6 (01:23:34):
That's what it's all about, man. That's the number one
rule of hitting is get a good pitch.
Speaker 15 (01:23:40):
And it might be a little bit different for different guys.
Speaker 6 (01:23:43):
It might be inner third, might be you.
Speaker 14 (01:23:46):
Know, low or high or whatever, but get a good pitch,
and you know what that is and especially early in
the counts, you're gonna hunt.
Speaker 6 (01:23:53):
That pitch until you get it.
Speaker 15 (01:23:54):
Two strikes is a different story, but I think that's
where it starts.
Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
Steve Sparks, for his weekly visit here on Sports Talk
seven to ninety shout Salisbury Show, Steve any concern at all?
I don't know, because lad Zy was starting pitching, and
maybe from or in particular, but when mccullors is still
trying to get it. I thought the best thing that
happened with him on Friday was pitching out of that
bases loaded jam. You know, I did did he to
be able to come out of that after it put
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it loaded him up? But is starting pitching a concern
right now?
Speaker 12 (01:24:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:24:24):
It is.
Speaker 6 (01:24:25):
You know, you can't sugarcoat it. I mean, you're looking
for guys to kind of get over that hump.
Speaker 15 (01:24:29):
And you know, there's a couple of the pitchers in
particular that have.
Speaker 6 (01:24:33):
Had long layoffs.
Speaker 14 (01:24:34):
And we've seen Sandy Alcantra of the Marlins, who's a
Style Young Award winner, Spencer Strider of the Rays' long
layoffs and they've come back and struggled, and you.
Speaker 6 (01:24:43):
Know, sometimes it's just not easy to jump right back
in into the thick things and command the ball the
way you hope to. So that's that's the main thing.
And this is what I want to see.
Speaker 15 (01:24:54):
I want to see guys attack the strike zone.
Speaker 14 (01:24:56):
I want them to win the count. I want them
to get ahead of account and then get the hitters
to expand the strike zone. I think that's the key
is we need to see, whether it's relievers or starters,
whoever it is, guys attack and make the other team
know that you're coming after them.
Speaker 6 (01:25:14):
Put them on the defense.
Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
Steve, if you just Joe's done a great job. I
mean he's had to change lineups with all the adjustments
he's had to make this year. Applaud for him considering
all these injuries to keep them in this position. Two
games up in first place, but just the top the
first six. We don't have to go through the seven, eight,
and nine. What's the best hitting order for you? Where
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do you want these guys when Jordan's back? How does
that look to you?
Speaker 6 (01:25:40):
Gosh, I haven't even thought about it yet me either.
Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
That's why that right, what I thought about. I said,
let me talk to the experts, see what he would
with back. I'm with you, but if you did, just
in a quick terms, what would you think? How would
it look to you?
Speaker 15 (01:25:55):
I'll tell you this, this is what this is what
I think the Astros missed a lot. It's paradus.
Speaker 14 (01:26:01):
Yeah, you know, the number of pitches that he was
able to see was different from most of the other
guys on the team. And if you remember in fort
bats one game, he set a record at dyke and
Park seeing thirty seven pitches and for a bats you.
Speaker 6 (01:26:17):
Can't replace that.
Speaker 15 (01:26:19):
And I feel like they're still trying to get guys
to kind.
Speaker 6 (01:26:23):
Of work, to count and do some things. I know
I want Payina leading off yep, and I know I
want jord On to bat in the first inning.
Speaker 14 (01:26:32):
And then where you go from that shown I'm not
exactly sure. Met may depend on the pitching matchup or whatever.
Speaker 6 (01:26:38):
And you're trying to.
Speaker 14 (01:26:39):
Get your best guys to hit as often as possible,
But it starts with Pinion and jord On for me
hitting in the first edit.
Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
Steve, when you you know we've all the like hitting,
We've a lot of times taken best hitters and Jordan
hitting the two hole before we've seen Otani. Dude, it
kind of changed from was your three guy, right, and
then the two, and it's kind of fluctuated between two, three,
and four and a lot of these teams with great hitters.
But tell me the evolution just from your your your
vis your your visual of what what a two hitter
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needs to look like if you got him in the
two hole, just kind of like what do you want
there if you're putting him in a lineup.
Speaker 14 (01:27:13):
I think a lot of teams have always, or in
the last seven or eight years anyway, have put your
best hitter in the two hole because they're going to
about fifty more times during the course of the season
than the three hole hitter. I think that's the number
somewhere really close to that, and that could be very impactful.
I mean, you could win a couple more games during
the season if you get him up, you know, in
(01:27:33):
the latter stage of the game, rather than ending the
game with him on deck.
Speaker 4 (01:27:37):
Right.
Speaker 14 (01:27:37):
So that's the biggest reason for that two hole. So
the what the way they look is not the same
as what they used to look like when I played. Yes,
it was a guy who could go inside out and
hit and run.
Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
Move a guy on the right side.
Speaker 6 (01:27:49):
Yeah, all that stuff.
Speaker 14 (01:27:50):
So it's a little different now. So you're looking for, uh,
probably your best hitter to hit in the two hole.
I think yourd On li likes to hit the three hole.
You got a chance with you know, if you put
your first few guys in the order with high on
base percentage, that's what you're trying to create.
Speaker 6 (01:28:06):
You're trying to make the other team Sean.
Speaker 16 (01:28:09):
Pitch to Jordon Alvarese, and if you have a guy
on first base in second base, you give yourself the
most chances for him to swing the bat, rather than
then pitching around yord On.
Speaker 4 (01:28:21):
Steve Win with Jordan Well, I guess we're all anticipating
him being in the lineup tomorrow when they resume there
after this day off. What's fair or I mean, we
know how good he is, but what should we expect
from him early? Or is he just too good for
us to even put our finger on that.
Speaker 14 (01:28:39):
I think you run into trouble if there's expectations. But
you're just hoping he can impact the rest of the
lineup with his presence. You know, if he's going to
be a little little stale as far as his timing goes,
that's understandable, but we've seen him jump into the lineup
after long layoffs before where we've seen him play three
games in spring training, jump into the lineup and feel
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like he's never left the beat.
Speaker 15 (01:29:02):
So I don't know if that's fair to expect that,
but if he does.
Speaker 6 (01:29:06):
I wouldn't be shocked.
Speaker 14 (01:29:07):
Right he looks like he's swinging the bat really well,
and Corpus Christie's got four.
Speaker 6 (01:29:12):
Doubles down there in fifteen at bats, and that's what
you're hoping for.
Speaker 14 (01:29:15):
Man, You're just hoping that Jordan gets pitched to and
he gets he gets to take advantage of that power.
Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
Steve, I usually ask you this probably every fifty games
or so, kind of third to third a third to
break it down the season because the strengths and weaknesses
may change because of injuries. Right now, what unit are grouping?
What's the strength of the Houston Astros.
Speaker 6 (01:29:39):
The top of the rotation?
Speaker 14 (01:29:40):
I would say right now, even with Thromber's got to
turn it around. I mean he's had he's had pieces
like this before, but.
Speaker 15 (01:29:52):
He always comes out on the other end on the
good side.
Speaker 14 (01:29:56):
So you know, you're watching the velocity more than anything else,
and you just feel like he can get back and
pitched like like he normally does, and the way Jason
Alexander is pitch. He's had a one and a half
the ra in August and you can't ask for any
more than.
Speaker 6 (01:30:11):
That, but it certainly needed it.
Speaker 14 (01:30:13):
But after Brandon Walter went down and was kind of
doing what Jason Alexander was for about six weeks, you know,
that's what good teams do, you know, and they've got
guys that come out of nowhere. I mean, nobody expected
Walter and Alexander to be able to do what they've
done for the Astros.
Speaker 6 (01:30:30):
This year, but they did.
Speaker 14 (01:30:32):
And I told you, I think the last couple of
weeks the Astros sorely needed a middle reliever to come
in and throw strikes, and that's what we saw blue
Ball do the other day.
Speaker 6 (01:30:45):
Four innings.
Speaker 14 (01:30:47):
He got to win out of the bullpen, but he
saved the relievers from another one of those games where
the starters didn't go very deep.
Speaker 6 (01:30:54):
And that's when the Astros have been at their best.
Speaker 14 (01:30:56):
They've had a guy down there, kind of an unsung hero,
go win there and pound the strike zone. And unfortunately,
because he threw four rentings, they had to send him
out and get another fresh arm in there, so we
won't see blue ball for fifteen days.
Speaker 6 (01:31:10):
But that's what they need.
Speaker 14 (01:31:12):
They need somebody who can make sure they don't wreck
the bullpen when the starter doesn't go very deep?
Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
Steve, is it fair to say that Jason Alexander, at
least from my vantage point, I trust him right now,
just not from this, but it's a guy that you
can't take him out of the rotation regardless of who
gets back healthy right now, can you? I trust him
right now?
Speaker 8 (01:31:31):
I do too.
Speaker 6 (01:31:32):
You know. I had a nice long conversation with him
a day or two ago, and he.
Speaker 14 (01:31:36):
Does something and I suspected this because of the reaction
of the hitters. He does something that a lot of
guys used to do. Now a lot of guys are
are chasing a certain profile of their pitches these days, Sean,
and they're making the ball spin in a certain way
to get this kind of movement, and they know that's
going to be effective. So that's what they do a
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lot of times on their change up. For a long
time ago, all the pictures when they threw a change up,
they were going to make it look as much like their.
Speaker 6 (01:32:05):
Fastball as they could.
Speaker 14 (01:32:06):
That means if he was mostly a two seam fastball pitcher,
he would throw his change up to look like a
two seamer as well.
Speaker 6 (01:32:13):
Same thing with the four steamer.
Speaker 14 (01:32:15):
Well, a lot of guys these days will throw a
four seam fastball up at the strike zone. Then they'll
throw a change up off of the two seam grip
because it makes it move more, but it alerts the hitter.
The hitter can see the spin is different and he
knows it's not a fastball. And that's what you're trying
to make a change up look like, is a fastball.
And I asked, I asked Jason Alexander.
Speaker 6 (01:32:35):
The other day, how do you throw your change up?
Speaker 14 (01:32:37):
And he showed it to me and said, well, I
changed from last year to this year from a two
scene change up grip to a four scene change up
grip because I think it makes it look more like
my fastball.
Speaker 6 (01:32:48):
And I just want I wanted to kiss him on
the on the mouth.
Speaker 4 (01:32:55):
Steve, Why didn't you? Well, if I'm being.
Speaker 8 (01:32:58):
Honest, if I'm being honest, I really did. I actually did.
Speaker 10 (01:33:03):
So.
Speaker 6 (01:33:03):
But that's the thing, man, it looks like you're heater.
Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:33:07):
Yeah, if he does it, man, he throws his.
Speaker 14 (01:33:09):
Change up on this little bulking grip, but he throws
it off of a fourteen grip.
Speaker 6 (01:33:13):
That nobody else does, and it makes it look like
his fastball.
Speaker 14 (01:33:17):
And that's why he's he's making he's making the hitters
look a little silly with some of their swings.
Speaker 6 (01:33:23):
On that change up.
Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
And at eight fourteen in the morning, your great explanation
of that with Jason Alexander makes me want to kiss
you on the lips. I can't wait.
Speaker 6 (01:33:31):
I appreciate this. Hey, can I tell you one thing
about the Rockies?
Speaker 4 (01:33:33):
You can anything you'd like.
Speaker 15 (01:33:36):
Brother, Let's go okay, So the Ashers play the Rockies
in the next three games.
Speaker 6 (01:33:41):
The Rockies have a minus I wrote this down.
Speaker 15 (01:33:43):
So they have a minus three forty nine run differential.
Speaker 4 (01:33:46):
That's all.
Speaker 14 (01:33:47):
That's all three hundred and forty nine more runs than
they've scored, which is an average of two point sixty
six runs per game, which will set a modern day
record that since nineteen.
Speaker 6 (01:34:01):
So the reason why I say.
Speaker 14 (01:34:02):
That is is because when you look at some team,
some team, the Mets have swept the Rockies twice and
have a plus twenty seven run differential against them and
just a plus three in every other game, So they've
done almost all of their run differential damage against the
Rockies San Diego, plus thirty five against Colorado, plus three against.
Speaker 6 (01:34:24):
All other teams.
Speaker 14 (01:34:25):
And Toronto swept Colorado in a three game series earlier
this year and had a plus thirty nine run differential
and only plus five in all others.
Speaker 6 (01:34:35):
And I'm saying that because you looked at last.
Speaker 14 (01:34:37):
Year with the Chicago White Sox in the American League Central,
who had a brutal season, that the teams that took
advantage of the Chicago White Sox, Kansas City and the
Detroit Tigers, who played them thirteen times a piece, made
it to the playoffs and the remaining schedule.
Speaker 6 (01:34:58):
For the Astros.
Speaker 14 (01:34:59):
And I'm saying this, and you don't take any team lightly,
and you want to win every series, but you almost
have to sweep the Rockies.
Speaker 6 (01:35:06):
They've only won.
Speaker 14 (01:35:07):
Five series all year long, right, but you almost have
to sweep them where you lose a little ground to
the field. And I say that because the Seattle Mariners
play Colorado in games one, fifty seven, one, fifty eight,
and fifty nine this year, so they're still.
Speaker 6 (01:35:23):
Going to get the plays.
Speaker 15 (01:35:24):
So you gotta take You got to take care of
business this series.
Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
You can't bogie par fives in a tournament, Steve to win,
right when when when you got a two stroke you
go two stroke lead. You've got to birdie the par fives,
and you've got to par the par threes when they're hard.
You gotta birdy the and this is you got to
birdy these holes in every now and then mix in
an eagle if you're going to win the tournament. And
that's who the Astros are to coin the old golf RaSE,
which I like doing that when it comes to baseball
and sports in general. Steve, great stuff, brother, It should
(01:35:50):
be fun. I can't wait to see Jordan back out there.
And we always appreciate you sharing your kiss on the
lip stories too, man, awesome. You're the best. Nobody better
than you appreciate your brother.
Speaker 6 (01:36:00):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
That's a great skin of Sparks you do. Always a
great storyteller, but also gives you something every week to
hang your hat on.
Speaker 5 (01:36:06):
Dan, I was gonna say, we never get cheated when
we talk with Steve Sparks right here on the Sean
Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety Hey.
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Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
The Shun Salvesbury Show continues. The shown Salvesbury Show continues.
John and Fresno wants to weigh in. John, what's going on?
Speaker 8 (01:37:50):
Hey, We'm going on, guys. I don't want to wait
a little bit on this to do a thing.
Speaker 12 (01:37:54):
Number one is dead, so do both set quarterback in
college football last year and uh, we know why.
Speaker 6 (01:38:04):
Hold on to the ball too long?
Speaker 8 (01:38:06):
But my thing is and it's not a knock against them,
but then I did not have the son ready.
Speaker 12 (01:38:11):
To go to the next level, because John, you know
that when you officers here office, allow me to get
bad break. You only have photo seven seconds, photo seven seconds.
You got to make your mind up because they tell
you to step up in the pocket, right, So they
tell you to step up into the pocket because that's
why you're protecting it inside the packet. Now, in his mind,
(01:38:34):
he thinks he could do what he did in college,
get out the pocket, running around and find somebody open.
Now we know that Travils Hunter made up for a
lot of his mistakes because Travis had Astieri to get open.
So but when you bring that same style into the NFL,
you not Lamar Jackson, You not Josh Allen. You don't
(01:38:54):
have the foot feed to get out of trouble when
you come outside the packet because the moufers linas, hey man,
they only gonna have you. They only gonna cover you
f four to five seconds, and then you got to
either get rid of the ball to play another day
of finu receiver to do. Problem meals is that you
do not have the foot speed he got that he
(01:39:16):
runs around a second hoping that the mouths alima run
five forty man two hundred pounds. They're coming at it.
So here's a proud meals footwork. He got to learn
to the packet Trussus Jo.
Speaker 4 (01:39:31):
Okay, No, John, I was gonna let you finish. I
was just gonna say, you're a spot on. That's it's
and I want you to finish. So now you're exactly
one hundred percent correct. And if you watch the film
of him on of this last preseason game, did he did?
Speaker 12 (01:39:43):
He did?
Speaker 4 (01:39:43):
If the ball comes out on time? Did the linemen
while they're getting pressure at that level? You got to
get the ball. There's a guy sitting in the flat,
there's a guy in a little stick round. Just get
the ball out and get simple completions. He's trying to
play a little hero ball's the problem. And that's what
you saw and what I see. And he's got listening.
With proper development, the guy can be a good player.
I've been saying that nobody should root for the kid
(01:40:04):
to fail because he's a last name Sanders. Quite the opposite.
Kid's good. He wants to be a player. He's just
not ready right now. And you make another good point
about this, and you said four to seven secs. I
got news for you. Do you know that if you
get two point seven to five seconds in the NFL
to throw the football. You should be in the PROP.
You should be in the pro that'll be at the
top of the league in past protection time. So if
(01:40:24):
that bottom ball's not out between two five and two
seven five and you don't have Lamar or Josh Allen
those type of feet, then you're gonna take a lot
of sacks. Sometimes are the guys who that they run
themselves into trouble because it's a crutch. We've all used
our crutch on the field. He's just not ready. It's
not anything else other than you can't play him right now.
(01:40:45):
You got to give and he's a third or four
string quarterback for now, and that's where he's at. There's
a lot of development that has to happen, just like
it does for most third and four string quarterbacks.
Speaker 12 (01:40:54):
That's right, You're right about that, Sun and that's why.
And another part think I'm gonna lit the fact that
the matter is is that don't get down, man, because
Hunley that came in there and kick their drive down.
Hunty got cut the next day. But Honey gonna have
a job because he got.
Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
Stuff on film.
Speaker 12 (01:41:13):
He got stuff on film. Other teams gonna need quarterbacks.
He got stuff on film. He came out there, he
did enough put enough stuff on film that if you
don't make it with the cleaning with they cut.
Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
It, he gonna go and get a job. Well, the
Raiders just lost Aid and O'Connell for six eight weeks.
The Raiders are looking for an experienced backup, and Huntley
did a really good He did a great job when
he was in Baltimore. There's a there's a veteran that
I'm sure would have liked more work in Cleveland too, right,
but he didn't get it. So there's a sponsoring somewhere.
Speaker 8 (01:41:43):
I won't say this.
Speaker 12 (01:41:44):
A blited goat jelly mel roase that come from Alabama.
The reason he gonna make that team because not only
could his throat, but he got the legs to make
nothing out of something, and that is what gonna get
him trapped. So sad, Just work on your game, man,
don't even worry about it. You got talent, Work on
(01:42:05):
your game. Get to put work right and everything, and
you get your.
Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
Chip him out, y'all. He'll do great stuff, John, Right,
just work what's your door? See it's unfair to him too,
because we put all this fifth round pressure on a guy.
It's like, can you let the kid develop without putting
he's not ready for can you imagine throwing him in
now and what and then what happened is happening? Or
he said, oh my gosh, and then everybody turns against
him because he didn't turn the franchise run. He's not
(01:42:28):
ready to turn it around. Neither is Dylan Gabriel. I'm
not sure Flak alreadybody else is all that damn team
offensively right now. So it's just crazy. Andess it's a
great point by John that he makes about allowing these
guys to develop. And like I said, and Huntley's got
stuff on film and he's cut and he's gonna move
on somewhere else. But it's just to let the young
man play some football right now and work on his
(01:42:50):
game and his craft because it's just not ready. And
there's there is no other excuse, there is no well
they did this because they don't want I don't know
any general manager in football that grafts a guy or
a court coach that wants to see a guy fail,
or that intentionally puts him in harms away. He just
actually just led me to my question to you.
Speaker 5 (01:43:06):
I mean, what benefit does Kevin Stefanski get from sending
him out there to fail?
Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
No benefits, none, absolutely nothing nothing. If stefanskie player would
ever trust you again, exactly. And just because he's not
playing now does not mean that Shdr Sanders cannot be
a player that's called this lead. See, we've got everything,
we think. Everybody's got to be mahomes in year two.
That doesn't happen. That's not normal. Lamar Jackson, was it?
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Lamar Jackson? His rookie year, people are like, good, gracious,
he's swimming it. Then he finally gets into a system,
gets playing more, and now he's a monster on the field.
There is no world with which we live in. And
what was your question again? One more that I was
thinking about you should do listen none, absolutely none, and
(01:43:53):
think about if he all of a sudden, like I
said in the first hour, decided to run his starters
back out there in the fourth quarter, or they even
the third for Shador Sanders as your fourth string quarterback.
As we sit today, now that may change. A picket
gets traded or gets cut, or we run red tape
to say, you know what, guys, put your pads back on.
We got to go back out and play football. The
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the Cleveland proper, the entire state would have gone nuts.
What are you doing for a fourth fifth for the
guy who's not gonna who's barely gonna be in uniform
on Sundays right now. Not disrespect to Shadur, but he's
he's he's everybody's thirsty, right. So my point is, why
would I owe so I'm gonna put out I'm gonna
put Teller out there. I'm gonna put my big dogs
(01:44:37):
out there right so they can put them in harm's
way so they're not ready for the regular season opener. Well,
they didn't give him the number ones. Of course they didn't,
just like they didn't for any other third string guy
playing her fourth string guy in the third and fourth
quarter of the final preseason game. The narrative on this
is as absurd and humiliating when it comes to some
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people's take on this is embarrassing for them, It's absolutely embarrassing.
And you instant when you tell me that that's the reason,
you instantly lose football credibility with me. You just flat
out do and I have some Okay, you instantly lose
it because then we got to go around the league say, man,
why in the Chicago didn't they give the third string
quarterback the starting offensive line because Ben Johnson's got a brain. Okay,
(01:45:24):
you don't do that to your team. Okay, just like
Andy Reid's got a brain, just like Demiko Ryans has
got a brain. Oh here's what I want. I wanted
all the ones in to finish that so Mertz could
have the ones play with him. No disrespect to Mertz.
Good player, got a chance, you got to develop. He
was a good college quarterback, went through some injuries. So
that's what we're doing. Yeah, run those guys back out there.
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Everybody in this city would have gone over there and
knocked nrg over saying what are you doing with this?
Why in the world do you play? No, you don't
do that. Whether it's in Detroit or here, they would
have knocked in rg over if on a road game,
to say, why are you putting the ones back in
with the third string quarterback? We don't need that. The
w doesn't matter, but the game did. Because people are
trying to develop. You can't put your ones in in
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any in any team, any city in the planet. In
the third preseason game. It's the narrative to suggest that
you should for a guy who's not going to be
in a uniform in the first week in a season.
More than likely, if he is, he'll be a long
way from the starter's position. You can't do it.
Speaker 5 (01:46:23):
Kevin Stefanski's got enough dysfunction to deal with there. He
doesn't need to.
Speaker 4 (01:46:27):
Gosh. Now, if you guys want to know what the
problem is in Cleveland, it ain't whether they should be starting,
should do or Sanders right now or not? That'll just
heighten the problem three years from now, maybe different not today. Son.
Speaker 5 (01:46:38):
You know my saying, bad organizations continue to be bad organizations.
Sometimes it's just news different name played on the door.
Speaker 4 (01:46:45):
Fanski and and Andrew Berry. You don't think the seat's
hot there. You don't think the seats hot there? Now?
If Russ Wilson starts with the Giants, should we all
be up in arms because Jackson Dart played so great
in the preseason. It was the preseason. If he starts,
then that tells you they don't trust Russ. But the
difference is one was a first round pick who's going
(01:47:07):
to get all the looks as a rookie. The other
one was a fifth round pick and a quarterback was
drafted ahead of him in the third round. Who's getting
more reps? Because why you drafted him two rounds ahead
of him? See how that goes in this league. What
a novel concept. It doesn't mean guys can't play. The
key is like Johnson stayed, of course it's gonna be okay. Now,
maybe Shuduur Sanders reading for the first time in his
(01:47:28):
playing career out of the spotlight. Well, we've kept him
in it. But where he can just go to work,
study and work on his game without being Dion's son.
And why he's sitting over there without having every time
he walks out of the building, you're treating he has
to be treated like he's Tom Brady. Let's give the
guy a chance to grow into being an NFL quarterback
and see where it goes from there. Now ain't the time.
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It's fascinating to me what people see and what they
want to carve it into. I'll tell you what. Most
of the teams I've been on, they play their best
players most of the time. And in this case, the
best quarterback on the roster didn't come from Colorado yet.
He's not ready yet.
Speaker 5 (01:48:07):
Simple Well, speaking of really good Quarterbacks, a comparison made
that I think is a little bit flawed. We'll discuss
here as we continue along on the Sean Salisbury Show
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This is the Sean Salisbury Show. At the tea bag
of your cup. Loose to those vocal cards up dandy,
now hit the height of there you go. Hey, it happens, Matt. Yeah,
you try for that high harmony and sometimes it just
doesn't work.
Speaker 5 (01:49:54):
That's I apologize to the audience, and I apologize to
Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 4 (01:49:58):
No apology, no apology. G need to just try. You know,
sometimes you got to hit you hit it. Sometimes you're like, okay,
let me go back and get this one again. Live
within your strengths. So that's not one of them. I
know my weakness that it ain't getting up that high.
I can't get there. Brother. That's that's a that's a
level of penthouse high voice that I can't get to.
Speaker 5 (01:50:14):
And I wouldn't try. Sean's one of the regulars of
the Soggy Bottom Boys. Yeah, I'm one of these guys
down here, yes, oak Ridge Boys or whatever. That's exactly yeah,
you know down yeah. I can take you low and
a tweener. But once you start to get up where
you were with Stevie Wonder High Notes or Michael Jackson,
I got that gum pass and leave it to the experts.
Speaker 4 (01:50:35):
You keep at it. Brother, you've had you've hit him before.
I can't get up there with that.
Speaker 8 (01:50:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:50:39):
I'm down here sometimes.
Speaker 5 (01:50:41):
I mean, you know, it's maybe the coffee just didn't
hit yet, like you said, it's okay, uh someone three
two and two five seven ninety the number to get in.
Stros are off today, but they take three out of
four over the weekend from the Orioles in Baltimore. They
lose yesterday three to two. They're now with Seattle winning yesterday,
just two games up on the Mariners in the West
and hopefully, hopefully Jordan Alvarez back in the lineup tomorrow.
(01:51:03):
Did you see that our good buddy coach Oh was
on with the boys over at barstool. Pardon my take,
And one one of the things he had talked about
was wanting to make a return to coaching, which I
think you know of a place that and that that
would actually be the follow up that I'd have for
him is I don't know, unless it's like a Louisiana
(01:51:24):
tach or somebody like that, like kind of like what
Butch Jones had to do, You've got to go back
to clawing your way back into getting people's trust that
you can lead a program. But position coaching, I mean,
is that something that Coacho would be interested in doing
because he is still revered as one of the best
defensive line coaches out there, and he and we know
what his recruiting, Yeah, yeah, we know it is what
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that part is too.
Speaker 4 (01:51:47):
Plus he's now got you know, he's he wearing a
national championship bring on one of the best seasons we've
ever seen a team have. There comes a point in
time and that for I think for Coach O to
get back into want to be a head coach again,
that unless it's a smaller program, not that he can't
coach a big program, but just you know, when you've
been out of it a few years and you move on,
(01:52:08):
I would think being a position coach would be a
step back, and I would love to have him as
a defensive line coach at sc HELL or just on
there helping out to the point, because he's still got
a lot of good football and coaching in him. I'm
a big fan. But in order to get to that process,
I think that you'll have to I mean, to get
to that destination. There's going to be a process for him,
(01:52:29):
I think. And then it just comes down to do
you want to accept being a position coach again? But
how many guys are successful head coaches did it? Head
coach had to go back and be a coordinator and
an analyst and do their thing, build themselves back up
and get a head coaching job. Again, It depends on
what effort and what you're willing to do, and I
would imagine for coach O it also depends on who
the head coaches of the job he's taking. If he
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was a defensive line of position coach, knowing that you've
got a guy who's stable, knowing that you get a
guy who's going to let you coach, knowing that you
know what I'm saying, that also isn't going to be intimidated,
which is hard to do. Coach O's a big presence.
Everybody loves him. He's popular, he's got a national championship ring,
He's coached one of the best football programs in the
country and want a championship there. And we know his
reputation for recruiting and the rest of it. So I
(01:53:13):
think it's less on coach, oh of whether the head coach,
and it's more on the head coach. Can you handle
a guy in the building that people are going to love,
players are going to respond to, that, media is going
to love because he tells it like it is and
gets after and also as a resume and can you
will You see, I always hire coaches if I was
a head coach, I want. I'm hiring coaches that I
(01:53:33):
eventually believe they can be head coaches. It lead that
position that they have that in mind. Now it's not
for everybody. You may hire a guy who says, I
just want to be a position coach because I love it.
And more and more you find guys wanting to do
that because they love that. They love the interaction with
their player. Because when you're the coordinator of the head coach,
it's an overall thing. You're kind of babysitting as opposed
to hear in that meeting room every day, and coach
oh is great in the meeting room. So I think
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a lot of it depends on if you'll take a
position coach, who's the coach there that's stable and says,
you know what, I'm not worried about the threat that
coach Ozeron because coach Ojeron is going to be a
threat because people are going to talk. It's like the
third string quarterback that had a good preseason. Everybody's going
to talk about him, and especially because Oh, yet the
guy who's in front of him pretty decent player too,
(01:54:14):
or a pretty decent coach. So I think coach O
could get a job as a defensive line coach probably
anywhere did he wanted to. The question is when will
that be right and is he willing to go through
that step to get back in or does he want
to coach a program that may not be lsu size
when it comes to Powerhouse. But you can do a
lot worse than hiring coach Ozeron if you want to
increase your recruiting and bring some eyes to the program. Man,
(01:54:37):
that's just the problem.
Speaker 5 (01:54:38):
Is your alma Mater, for example, I think that Lincoln
Riley would be hesitant to do it because it's one
misstep for me. They know they've got the interim coach
right here. And I don't mean this in a distress
because I love Lincoln.
Speaker 11 (01:54:49):
I do.
Speaker 4 (01:54:50):
The key is they just got to play defense. There's
an offensive coach Lincoln. They will score, They'll score from
the parking lot. But the thing about it is here
I could make the argument that ed Orgeron's more popular
LA than Lincoln Riley is on that campus today, not
the well because they're waiting, because they're still okay Lincoln,
is this the year we elevate? Because Lincoln listen, if
you want to score points, and he knows how to
dial up play, he just does. But they got to
(01:55:11):
play defense. So yes, there are people there that have
been pining for coach O since Coach O left. So yes,
he'd be good. But you got to be a stable,
secure head coach because when that presence is in the building,
even if he doesn't pine for it, people will create it.
Speaker 5 (01:55:26):
Now definitely, so, and it's maybe a distraction that I
don't think he or anybody would necessarily.
Speaker 4 (01:55:32):
At least not this year Lincoln. Righty's got some other stuff.
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Astros take three or four over the weekend from the
Orioles in Baltimore, off tonight before the Rockies come to
town and your Don Alvarez expected to be back with
the club tomorrow. Here's hoping fingers are crossed and I
think we are all in that same boat right now.
The astro is now two games up on the Mariners
in the West. But continueing to talk some college football here,
(01:58:47):
mentioning about Edozeron and of course we are your home
of the Texas Longhorns here, which you'll have them on Saturday,
and also uh for LSU football here in Houston, right
here on the iHeart Radio family of stations, where you've
got of course the Astros this weekend and Koog's on
(01:59:09):
Thursday night over on KPRC nine fifty. But I mentioned
his logic I thought was a little flawed. Here is
he was asked about Arch Manning, and he said that
he had a chance to go to Texas Clinic and
speak there, and then he also watched practice, and of
course knows Arch because he's from Louisiana. He liked Joe
Brady a lot, he said, and of course Joe Brady
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got Joe Burrow's career fired up. But he said, I'll
say this conservatively. This is Ojeron's words. We recruited Garrett Nussmeyer.
Garrett's a great player, but Arch is as close to
or maybe as good as Joe Burrow as I've ever seen,
and I've never said that about anybody.
Speaker 4 (01:59:49):
Here's where the logic is a little skewed.
Speaker 5 (01:59:51):
Because the first year for Joe Burrow, he was serviceable,
he was good, he was better than anything they had
ever had at quarter back there in a really really
long time. Probably you'd have to go back to like
maybe Matt Flynn was the last time. And I understand
JaMarcus Russell was the first round pick. Look, he was
the first pick overall because of one game that he
had against Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (02:00:12):
Aside fan they I get all of that. I understand
all of that.
Speaker 5 (02:00:19):
But Joe, of course, coming into that season with Joe Brady,
I remember that he was at the Manning Passing Academy
and he talked about how great that offense was going to.
Speaker 4 (02:00:28):
Be, and people laughed at him.
Speaker 5 (02:00:30):
People were like, Oh, okay, man, we've been hearing this
at LSU for years, Like even when you know, going
back to the less miles days where it was, oh, hey,
we're going to open up the offense. It's going to
be totally different.
Speaker 4 (02:00:42):
No, you're not.
Speaker 5 (02:00:42):
You're gonna run that same I formation you've continued to run.
You're gonna rely on the path. You're gonna rely on
the running game. Enough of the passing game because granted,
Les Miles had both Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry on
campus at the same time and they were still mid offensively,
so nobody thought that twenty nineteen was going to be
the way that it was.
Speaker 4 (02:01:01):
I mean, Joe Burrow came into that season.
Speaker 5 (02:01:03):
I remember my good buddy Glenn Gilbo talking with Burrow's dad,
and Burrow's dad said that he's slated to be a
fifth round pick.
Speaker 4 (02:01:10):
And then he had that season and people were like,
oh man, maybe we missed something on this guy. All
facts and I could tell you this validate exactly what
you're saying about. This is and listen, arch Manning could
have a great year this year. Listen, I'm not what
coach I was saying about. He's talking about when he recruited,
never recruited, got better. You see him in Louisiana. Hell,
he's much more recruited than Joe Burrow was coming out
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of school and Joe was you know, people remember Joe
was at Ohio State before he transferred, as you mentioned
so to LSU. Well, the thing with arch Manning, he
could have a great year and not have the year
that Burrow had in twenty nineteen and I can remember,
just to talk about how bad and what they were expecting,
and it wasn't that. But I got offered a job
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as an analyst. I went up to LSU coach oseran
I was setting in the office. The problem why I
went back it had to go through the legal part
of it because I trained. I was training a couple
of guys, one in particular that they were recruiting heavily
was their number one, and I was I'd been training him.
And there was a rule then, which is a stupid rule,
the NC two A that there had to be if
you were a private coach, there had to be distance
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between the time or it looked like it was, you know, nepotism. Well,
I'm not a family friend of anybody. I was just
training a quarterback. They were very very very high on
and so they brought me in off the analyst. But
the n C two I wouldn't let it happened because
it was too close together on the day as I trained.
So so but the only reason I say that is
because I can remember being there and they were talking
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about their offense and what they were to do and
waiting on Joe to translate. In the spring, you know
to get to LSU. He says, well, waiting on Joe Burr.
He goes, it's Sean, I think we got a pretty
good player here, and I knew Joe was, and so
we went over that and talked and then and they
had high expectations and then it went up and down,
and then Joe the last part of the season was
really good, right, but he was there were some things
they need to fix, and he was a fourth to
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sixth round pick. That that's where people had slated him
after that year, and then he came in there, but
there was always this sense and then coach Ogeron had
kind of admitted it and when they were going through
that there that he was held in high regard that
there's something a little different about Burrough. They knew that,
but nobody could have expected what you saw in twenty nineteen,
right with that explosion of it was as good a
(02:03:18):
college offense. And I was fortunate as an sc guy
to watch Lionert and Bush that group this because Burrow
was a better thrower of the football than most guys
were and his poison his feet. So they had high
hopes for Burrows. They had higher hopes than maybe but
it was a new system for Joe, you know, getting
into it, higher hopes for Joe, I mean for Burrow.
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Then that first year they expected to build on it,
and they did. I don't think going into the next
year they thought, oh my gosh, this is going to
be not just epic but really out other worldly crazy
offen they were phenomenal, and so was Joe and the
whole thing. And then and going through that, and I
know this when they decided to go get Joe Brady
and went down to New Orleans and he put on
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his He got him up there and got on the
board and walked them through teaching them RPO and how
they were going to expand on that offensively that they
were really excited that Joe Brady, who's doing a great
job in Buffalo now put on a show for that.
When he went in there and they he taught it
to them, to origarn staff, they walked out of there
saying that guy special meaning Brady, which led to Burrow special.
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And you put the two together. It was the perfect mix. Awesome.
Speaker 5 (02:04:28):
It definitely worked out incredibly well. And I mean, you know,
they were doing things passing game wise that had never
been seen there.
Speaker 4 (02:04:35):
You as good at the best pocket passer we've seen
come out of high college since Tom Brady. I mean,
he was better when he came out than Brady, but
I'm talking about just the poison the pocket. Nobody was
better that I've seen in the last ten or fifteen
years that I've watched them manipulating the pocket and pocket presence.
There was nobody better coming out of college I'd seen
in two decades. And I'm being serious, That's who Burrow was.
(02:04:58):
And look how it's expanded and there's poise. He's got
ice in his veins everywhere. You can never see him
get flustered, and it shows every single time he plays well.
Speaker 5 (02:05:07):
I mean we saw that in the Super Bowl too
a couple of years ago, where he wasn't the reason
that they lost that game. It was then Aaron Donald
and that Rams defense finally deciding, hey we've got.
Speaker 4 (02:05:17):
This once again. What happened in the Super Bowl The
defense for the Rams dominated, and their offense just couldn't
get it go. They weren't physical enough upfront and sincinnt
matter of fact, quite the opposite. They got punked and
pushed around, and Joe never had a chance to accelerate
it and to be able to expand it. In that
game they dominated once again. It goes back to our
(02:05:38):
beginning conversation. Great offensive line, play, a hell of a
quarterback in a dominant defense, and you have a legitimate
chance to win everything. The rest of the pieces find
a way to fit in. But here's where arch Manning
it all ties in.
Speaker 5 (02:05:50):
It's again, I just I feel like people are putting
unreachable expectations on the sky.
Speaker 4 (02:05:56):
Well they are, they are, but you know what, he's
going to welcome him, that he's prepared for the expectations
because of the job and who he the family. It
started with the pops or a grandfather, and then it
rolls right through the Manning front of me. What hell,
it's to the point and they all say he's as
talented or more talented than any of them. Now that
(02:06:17):
talent and putting it together, and he's going to a
coordinator and a head coach who's the same guy play
caller who is the very best to what he does
in college football. He's when you mentioned the best play
callers in football and guys who do Sarkesian's name is
with Lincoln right, those names are at the top of
this list. So the expected You're right, it's unfair because
he could play great and still come up short of expectations.
(02:06:40):
Maybe not of his own, but of expectations. So I
get it. But yeah, it's crazy. But I can tell
you this man that once again he'll be prepared. And
I want you to think about this. Think about a
pub Peyton got came in out of school, and Eliott
ole miss and Peyton when he left, about Florida and
and and you know the whole thing Tennessee and coming
in the expectations. Think about this. Now find me a guy.
(02:07:01):
In the end, I'll tell you who's the most pubbed
guy since shoulders. Andrews get a lot of it and
expectations for a fifth rounder. Tebow had high expectations. But
for what reason. There's a lot of reasons, because most
of us knew that he didn't possess the physical arm
strength to be at the next level. But he was
a competitor. I don't know the last time the expectations
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placed not Andrew luck maybe Elway and I was fortunate
in the lway, maybe Elway. Think about it. I mean
I want you to go through and think, Okay, this
guy did high expan. I'm talking about to where they
are so off the charts that how do you even
live up to it, even if you're really good? Because
when Elway came out, dude, they might have put a
blooon red suit on with an S on his chest.
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Elway was. I mean, I'm telling you what. He walked
on water, according to everybody, and he was the first
and he paid it off. Now you think about what
this guy's got expectations that anything short of like off
the charts, some will be disappointed, which is so unfair.
But you know, nobody's gonna feel sorry. He's prepared for
this and this is what he's worked his life for.
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And I assure you the Mannings will have him prepared
and it's up to but you know what, his dad
or Peyton can't propease. Peyton ain't playing on Saturdays. He's
got to put it to work. And I trust that
Arch Manning will figure this out. I think UT's in
phenomenal position. Well, I mean, and that's also it comes
to the territory there too. I mean, because it's the
every year Texas is back, oh hey, national championship, all
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of these things. If the expectations didn't get any higher.
Guess what, there's a guy who's got a national championship ring,
who played about a good a football game in person
that you'll ever play in your life, in a big game,
in Vince Young. Those expectations will always be sitting in
that quarterback room regardless, because that's the barometer, and anything
less than that is like, Eh, Quintin, here's a good player,
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but he wasn't Vine Young the finish right, And now
you look at arch Manning and it's through the roof
and it's either now if he goes and wins the
championship in a Heisman trophy and plays like the expectations, dude,
well his only just decision. Then we'll be do I
leave and go be the first pick of the draft,
or do I literally come back and try to do
this again. That'll be his decision. Not is the guy
a good player? But there's a lot riding on it
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And I cannot wait to see this opener this weekend
in midday with in Ohio State the reigning champion. This
is going to be on, dude, and I can't wait
to see it. Goosebumps. I cannot wait to see him
I'm ready. Saturday cannot get here soon enough. Oh my gosh,
I cannot wait to see this thing and see how
he responds. And no matter what happens, if he plays great,
don't put him in the college football Hall of Fame.
If he doesn't play as well as you. It's one game,
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and things have changed immensely for players. In one game.
I got my brains beat in by Wilbur Marshall my
first start of my college career in Florida. He had
the best game of any defensive player I've ever seen
in my life, watching or playing in it. Unfortunately I
was on the receiving end of it. But then it
got better, and I'll never forget. I was sitting down.
My parents left the game. We were into that swamp,
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we were done, we are driving to go ahead and
win it. And the clock ran out and the game ended,
and Wilbur was still I get reminded this day, thirty
years they shot you, remember that? Do I remember it was?
It was dominating a forces I'd ever seen in college
football game still to this day, and I ever ret
I was leaning, sitting down, leaning on the outside of
the locker room against the wall. You know, bothered that
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we didn't win. You know, you're upset. I'm set a
sophomorem nineteen years old or whatever, it was eighteen years old,
and I'm in there and I'm like and then John
Robinson comes out and says, well, hence national championship for LSU.
Coach Robinson was part of Ed George A. Round's staff
and he walks out and he looked at my parents
until he goes, I saw a lot in him today.
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He's gonna be fine. We went on to roll off
seven in a row, you know, and we're playing great football.
But he saw something even in getting your ass kicked,
which made me feel good because I was like, well,
I let my team down. We didn't win at Florida,
and we should have handed wilbermarsha. I should have walked
over there and said, dude, to hate your guts, but
I love you because it was the most impressive thing
I'd seen. But after that, I was in the tank
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for a minute. You're like, ah, I let my guys down.
You get on a plane and go home, get back
to work. Next thing you know, you go on a roll.
But the head coach and being able to manipulate and
help you with That was so important for me at
a fragile age, right, And even though I was confident,
you still like, man, is this what's going to be like?
And Coach Robinson was so good at just a few
simple words and made my parents feel better and next thing,
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you know. So the expectations for archbanning are through the roof.
But if there was anybody considering the background of the
family to handle it, it's a pretty good guy to
have handle it, no question about it.
Speaker 5 (02:11:25):
And you know, sometimes it's nice to have people see
things in you that maybe at the time you can't
see in it yourself. Let's get back into the astros
because something that Sean mentioned earlier is very prophetic now
and we'll see if they live up to said prophecy.
We will talk about it here. It is the Shawn
Salisbury Show on a Monday Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 4 (02:13:28):
Get back at it.
Speaker 5 (02:13:30):
Uh, Sean, you mentioned something earlier about what's going to
be important for the Astros down the stretch, and I mean,
this is yet another homestand against teams that you should handle.
But how many times since they left LA in July
have we said that about this team where it's Hey,
the Cleveland Guardians are coming in. I've lost ten straight.
The Astros should be able to handle them. You get swept, Hey,
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the Oakland A's or excuse me, that's a slip. The
Athletics are coming to town. Uh, you should be able
to handle those guys. You get swept, so well, I'm
not saying that the Astros are going to get swept.
But I'm also saying that you can't really put heavy
expectations on this team to win because well, I mean,
we just saw it play out this weekend. If you hit, yeah,
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you're gonna win because the pitching is leaking oil. What
this really boils down, to Sean is exactly what you said,
win series and keep it moving, no more getting swept.
You lose a series, you can't lose another one after that.
You need to be able to bounce back and at
least even things out. Like that's the territory the Astros
are in at this point, and when you're two games
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up on the Mariners, there is no wiggle room.
Speaker 4 (02:14:34):
Yeah, I'm gonna and I'm with you one hundred percent
win the series. You know, take two of three, three
or four whenever you run into one of those series.
But I'm gonna even go one step further down. I
have to expect them to sweep the series. I do,
and Steve Sparks have made a point, and I think
it's valid. I understand everybody's getting paid and the discrepancy
with that team to a to a good team, they're putrid.
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I'm sorry that I'm not saying the individuals of people,
but the sum they are a bad baseball team and
a struggling franchise. I'm just telling you, and Steve said,
you know, you almost have to sweep them. There's no
truer time to what I said about Birdie the par
fives than now this series, this one, I don't if
Jordan didn't take a swing at the plate, you you
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are a far better team, far better expectations. They're a
team trying to figure out if they if they're going
to be scheduled next year. We're going to give them
one hundred and sixty two games by week or by season,
and the Assos are a team we expect to have
World Series opportunity every year. Now I see win the series. Yes, Dan,
I'm with you, win all the series, but in this
one in particular, I don't think that you can. If
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your expectations for all of us aren't to go in
there and hammer this team and sweep them, then then
then maybe then maybe we're on the wrong not you
and I, but then our thought process is on the
wrong page. You absolutely cannot let the Colorado Rockies waltz
in here. Almost four hundred run differential they're in the
minus almost four hundred category. You cannot let that happen.
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I don't care who pitches, and I don't care who's
at the plate and what the lineup looks like. It
would be almost unacceptable. This would be a year. Ye, yes,
unacceptable to lose a game, but to lose this series
and I know people will see it. You aren't kidding. Yes,
it's crazy. This this team here, this team you come
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here and I understand, well, they're pro baseball players. You know,
it's a long seat at this stage of the game.
That's out the window. That they have proven this year
that they're not good. They have proven this year they're
basically a double A team playing pro big at least
the production. I'm talking about that good players, but not
every Because you got a player good or two doesn't
mean that everybody's good. I'm just telling you my expectations
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are they sweep them in a hammer there ass. This
was twenty eleven. That's that's exactly right. And that too
that it's three forty nine, it should be up to
about three seventy nine run differential by the time this
is over. That otherwise, by not beating these guys sweeping them.
You put yourself in the buying and Steve Sparks made
a great point. One game's what you say one fifty
seven fifty nine are Seattle playing Colorado? You do not
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want to be tied going into a series that you
got to play and they get to play Colorado. You
get to play them now. You absolutely have to. I'm
talking about put your foot on their throat and twist it.
You have got to choke them out. If he come
back and they got beat three to two, and then
the one five to four in a walk off, and
then maybe let no unacceptable, This isn't well they're pros.
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Shown No, they're barely pros and it doesn't matter. You
absolutely have to kick their ass up and down Dyke
and Park and the expectations are three more wins by
the time this series is over. You don't have to,
you can't. You're losing this, You're losing. You're letting the
field lap you. If you do not dominate this series, well,
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I mean it's again.
Speaker 5 (02:17:55):
You know, if you don't handle a series like this,
then at the end of the season you'll look at
it and you say, hey, we missed the postseason. Why, Well,
because I mean, you played the way that you did
at home against bad teams, and you finished up the
way that you did against bad teams. So hopefully the
Astros can avoid that. Continue this conversation too if you
want to get in someone three two one two five
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Speaker 5 (02:20:34):
So good chance for the Astros to get things going
at home. Tommy Fleetwood wins the Tour Championship, his first
PGA Tour win, and me and Sean, you know, we
were just talking about it during the break of how
exciting that was down the stretch where he had him
where You're just like, come on, man, finish this off.
Like even even once he got to the green on eighteen,
You're like, is he somehow gonna find a way to
(02:20:56):
Stuart sync this thing?
Speaker 4 (02:20:57):
Doug you had four puttt Yeah, and watch what and
watch Patrick can't lay chip in or something like exactly. Dude, Like,
I don't know if this is ever gonna happen for me.
I'll tell you what else get made an emotional for
me too. Is the thrill that Shane Lowry and Justin
Rose got from watching their friend one. Oh yeah, it
was now Tommy Fleetwood, who I love. I think he's
as classy and as graceful as any player on tour, right,
(02:21:20):
and he's really friggin good. Okay, make no mistake, But
now he's the enemy. I love you. We'll celebrate with
you today. But now Ryder Cup comes in. It is
on brother, and that that's what makes it great. You know,
the competition. I love head to head, fistfight competition in
a golf terms, right, But I was so happy for
him then And to see his step son come out
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there crying and give him a hug, and just his
caddy give him a kiss on the head. I'm like,
and he's probably woke up this one like or if
he ever went to sleep like, because I can guarantee
you one thing. A few pints were flowing with him
and Rose and Shane Lowry was big. They've got the
one thing. One thing I can tell you about the
Euros when it comes to like the golf, they do
not get cheated on their fun post golf when they win.
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If you saw Bob McIntyre what he wanted, they they celebrate.
Rory and Tommy Fleet would deserve to celebrate and get
after it and it'll be a Ryder Cup guy. I
was so happy for him and just the emotion, and
I'm proud of the US fans, the respect, the the
and the love is It's it's easy to root for Scheffler,
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He's always around and but Scheffler's gonna win thirty more
times in the next five years. Okay, just is and
Tommy may Well, this may be the one that gets
him over and he goes on a roll and wins
munch tournaments. But that's exact that's exactly. We saw it
with Dustin Johnson for a minute when he was on
the tour as well. But this is I was so
happy for him and the class in which those folks
in Atlanta showed him and openly rooting for him. It's
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a good golf market, it is, and rooting for a
guy who normally, if it was him and Scheffler or
Patrick Cantley, they'd be rooting for the US guy. It's
just natural. But it was easy to root for a
great guy who's hand himself with grace and dignity through
losses and through some really good moments in his career.
But I couldn't have been happier for him then. And
I'll tell you what when I saw Scheffler stand on
the par three with about two hundred and ten yards
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and he just made birdie and was charging. And if
you're if you're a Tommy fleet with the last thing
you want to say is that, dude, you know, objects
are closer than they may appear in that side view mirror.
And then all of a sudden, dude, he hits that
draw and he's normally he's a cutshot guy. He had
a draw and it started left and I'm like, oh
my gosh, and it goes in the water. You saying this,
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I mean I was, I said shocked. Scheffler doesn't do that.
Scheffler's supposed to stif it to three feet and knock
it in and make the pressure even go more. But
when can't lay bogied and it got the three strokes,
you're thinking, Todd, dude, put it down the fairway if
that's what it takes to get you in. And then
he smoked some good shots, played it smart, and took
it home. I was I felt like I was playing
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in the tournament watching Fleet would come down the stretch, meaning, whatever, dude,
whatever pressure're feeling, just throw it on me. I'll take
it in my living room for you. Go get this
thing done, relax and swing the club because you're a
great He is a great iron player. And I just
I was so happy for that guy and for his
win and for his family and can't wait. I hope
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he's celebrating his ass off. But we will see you
at Bethpage Black and now it's on. Well, I mean,
you're talking about the grace, class and dignity. I mean
of so many guys this year that we've seen in
similar situations. I'm not talking to the media. I'm angry.
I'm leaving Rory Colin Marracalla where. I mean, he had
had multiple heartbreaks this year, and people would have understood
if he did not really address it right. He didn't
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duck anybody, and he's never ducked. And we've seen guy
you know, you know the names that pout and walk
away and pout And I'll catch you next week because
I don't feel like it Tommy Fleetwood with the bat
and getting him right as he walks off the golf
course to the point where he's like, if you're the player,
you're like, I'm damn here in tears because the emotion
I'm faving. I just got my ass handed to me again.
Kegan Bradley hits it close to Justin Rose hits it close.
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What in the hell's going on here? And I gotta win?
What to get? The one win with the tour championship
in ten million bucks plus all the bonuses he's gonna
get from his the people who had who sponsor his
golf bag and clubs. It just and it couldn't happened
to a better guy, because you know what, I almost
feel like the good I do. I think the Good
Lord works in ways. Say dude, you've withstood this beat down,
and you've withstood it with dignity. Today's your time. Hey,
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you look like, yeah, yeah, so, and how about you
finally get yours right. You're not gonna walk on water,
but I got news for you, dude, You're gonna play
like it at some point in time. And then when
he takes out of the floor, incredible, He turned water
to wine how that happen, the flowing locks of hair,
and just the just the constant and that those little
steps he takes when he's little asses walking up the fairway.
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But I couldn't you know, we're walking down the ferry
to the wind. But I'm I can't imagine what he
was feeling, because I would have asked when you when
walking off that tee after you hit that shot to
the green and you're walking to the green and seeing this,
It's not like you were they were playing at Royal
County Down. Where's he going right now that there's a
ray of light around him Royal count Down? You're here
in Atlanta. And to see the response in the way
(02:26:03):
that the fans were running behind him at the eighteen
so they could get a good look at the putt.
I just thought it was really really cool. And I
can't remember the last time, maybe Rory at the Masters,
but there's still a smugness about him that makes him
a little tougher to root for at times. Tommy Fleetwood
is easy to root for, and I loved it. Put
it this way. If he wasn't a hero, I say,
come on over and skip your ryder cup, come play
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for us. Just pretend like you're you're us guy. But
that's going to be on because dude, both sides got
some friggin monsters in the in this tournament. It's going
to be a blasting favorite. While the Ryder Cup. You
asked the way some of these guys are playing the
and Keegan Bradley himself, Keithan Bradley has to take it.
Speaker 5 (02:26:42):
He has to choose himself. That's what he's playing too good. Yeah,
I agree, and I think he will. I mean, you know,
that's that's what also makes me glad that finally the
Houston Open got out of the Fall swing because nobody
plays during that time. I mean, you know, you get
a handful of guys, But the fact that you get them,
and this year it's gonna be two weeks befoor the Masters.
Speaker 4 (02:27:01):
Getting there is a great tune up because some won't
play the week before the Masters because chef then want
to get out and get a head start on preparation
for the Masters. This has become this is like for me,
I don't it's not. It may not be a signature event,
but it's a signature event from my eyes because of
the tune up leading into it and they put on
a phenomenal event at a great public golf course. Yep,
I mean everything goes so I'm with you. It means something.
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I mean, it's always meant something, means far more now
because of the significance of where it's located in the schedule.
I think it's a great move by the Houston Open
and by the fact that we get a great, great
golf course to play it on.
Speaker 5 (02:27:35):
Getting back into the astros here, if you want to
jump aboard someone three two one two five, seven ninety
as the path forward is simple for this team and
it revolves around these people, we'll discuss it right here.
It is the Shawn Salisbury Show on a Monday Sports
Talk seven ninety. But first, I mean, as we've said
at numerous times, sean team minus about a couple of
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hours before it's lunchtime and you're getting into the office
on a Monday, You're like, man, you know what sounds
really good. I'll tell you what sounds really good. Some brisket,
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You're gonna love it, you know what, Dan, I've never
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you know, when you look at the menu or when
you go in there and eat, have you ever had
anything that you said, I don't want that again? Everything
it's true, and now not just going in there and
enjoining loving the venue because it's phenomenal and the food's great,
and so is the customer service with coffee in the
whole group the food. There's the best barbecue in this city?
Speaker 12 (02:28:55):
Is it now?
Speaker 4 (02:28:56):
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If you're in a hurry, Sack, I got to get
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but at all, I'm telling you take it home. If
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Speaker 5 (02:29:26):
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I'm enjoying the vibes. I've got the games on, I've
got the beer garden outside the full service bar right
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the pit room.
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Speaker 4 (02:29:59):
Let this celebration start.
Speaker 1 (02:30:01):
Or Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (02:30:06):
We've been talking about it. You talked about a lot
with Steve Sparks about this ASTROS lineup. We'll close out
with that, but first let's squeeze Aggie Doug in here.
Aggie Doug, what's up.
Speaker 8 (02:30:20):
One on the right where over at the.
Speaker 14 (02:30:26):
Yeah, the electrical equipment, like the electrical panel and caps, Yeah, Doug.
Speaker 5 (02:30:34):
Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, I was gonna say,
you know, Triple if you want to check with them.
I think it was almost like bluetooth or like speaker
or something like that. But now we'll we'll get him in.
But let's talk Astros because I mean, you know, we've
said it numerous times and you know you saw it
during this weekend. Al two, Ve getting going, Carlos Korea
(02:30:56):
continues to be what he's been. How about Zoo Sanchez
finally getting going too. I mean, that's that's been a
guy that you've been really looking forward to seeing get
the back going, and he finally did. And then I
mean even Christian Walker and Jiner Diaz in certain stretches too,
guys that we have been at nauseum talking about wanting
to see those guys get going.
Speaker 4 (02:31:18):
The Sanchez, the Sanchez struggles early for late for him
to get on, get on, a roll here because he's
starting to look like why Dana Brown brought him here.
Some power, bat on the ball, solid left field can
move him around. He's starting to look like because you
when you watch your say, man, that's not the guy
that they expected here, because you've heard all the talk
(02:31:39):
and if you didn't see him much when he was
in Miami. The guy's got some power and some talent.
Well lo and behold he uh he's now getting on
that role will help the He and the Christian Walkers,
those three are going to be epic. They have to be,
you know when I say epic, meaning from where they
were to the advancement of getting what we expectations are.
(02:31:59):
And then he added jord onto alignment lineup and they
start doing what they're doing now that they did two
of the three games this weekend. Now you're looking at
not formidable and dangerous. The pitching got you to this point.
The pitching is not going to carry you now. I
mean we've seen it with the starting pitching outside of
Hunter Brown. Start starting pitching, starting pitching. Dan This this
may end up being a grind the rest of because
(02:32:21):
you're still waiting on Garcian and velocity right. Javier is
just going through some struggles to get to so he's
super close.
Speaker 12 (02:32:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:32:30):
Mccullors has had his I mean he's had he struggled,
He's had some moments and he pitched out of a
basis loaded jam which which was found really good on Friday,
but struggles. Jason Alexander has been your second best pitcher
the last five weeks. Five starts, four or five starts,
be a hunter Brown at him. That's that's what and
Fromber absolutely has to pitch like he's expected. He can't
(02:32:52):
keep doing this. This has got to turn around for him.
What's what has been a strength has been a is
It's not a weakness, it's it's still strength. But there
are some questions have creeped in a little bit here,
and I think some some I'm not overly comfortable like
I was with that it was the hitting. The hitting
replaced it. Right now right now, I'm not saying a weakness,
(02:33:14):
but there there's got to be a few concerns about
the depth and length that you're starting pitching and how
how it looks right now. The optics haven't been very
good and for your ace, they've got to get better.
Speaker 5 (02:33:25):
Well, I mean it's give and take, and hopefully the
Astros hitters can start to give Aggie Doug welcome in, buddy,
I got my business handle.
Speaker 8 (02:33:35):
I appreciate it. I apologize.
Speaker 12 (02:33:37):
Uh so.
Speaker 4 (02:33:40):
Talk to us. Yeah great, great, we know everything that
went on in your meeting now, so that's cool. We
appreciate it. Brothers personal business out.
Speaker 8 (02:33:48):
There doing sales on a Monday, so it's never a
bad thing. But guys, you know what was so cool
about watching that yesterday with a bunch of people that
never watched golf is that it almost felt like ten cup.
I mean, like all those people at the very end
where they basically ran, and I was like, are these
people going to start jumping in the lake like Ken Cupp.
(02:34:09):
I was waiting for the guy to throw the ball
into the lake, you know. So it was just really
cool to watch that. And guys, I agree with you
one hundred percent about you know, us waiting for the offense.
I mean, if the offense is going to do this,
it's going to solve a lot of the pitching woes.
So if I mean, if we can start to average
four and five runs a game, I think our pitching
(02:34:31):
will be will end up being just fine, Yeah, I
hope you're.
Speaker 4 (02:34:34):
Right about that. I think it will turn around. I
do time with him, but you've heard him four or
five runs a game different than two or one or three,
four or five runs a game. No, they'll find a
way to get through. It would have been enough yesterday,
but for the other three games it was not. So
Luckily the Astros were able to live up to that.
All right.
Speaker 5 (02:34:49):
He's Shawn Triple, Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews, The Matt Thomas
Show with Ross coming up next.
Speaker 4 (02:34:55):
Right here.
Speaker 5 (02:34:55):
We will talk to you in twenty hours here on
your home of the Astros and the Rockets, Sports Dark
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