Astros Win Series Over Reds, Texans Rookie Minicamp Recap, LMJ Controversy, Steve Sparks Weekly Segment!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc Troup, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Dan Matthews. This is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Yes, crushes it d till that failed and you can't
test it. Good bye, Thray run shot off the community
leader side astros up printing nothing on.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
The Diner's fourth of the year.

Speaker 5 (00:37):
Leo two swinging in a mess, good morning, good afternoon,
and good night.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
TJ.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
Friedel finished him off with a change up. That is
eight strikeouts for Blanco two away, that's right, the one
two breaking ball, strike three call. McLean goes down looking.
He doesn't like the call from cbe Buckner. You thought
it was high. But that is nine strikeouts for Blanco
as he strikes out the last two hitters here in
the top of the two to one hits sharply in

(01:02):
the center of base hit battle score Smith Patio round
third and coming home he'll score as well. A two
run single for Christian Walker and a six to nothing
lead for the astros O two. Did he go around
on a pitch away? Yeah he did, says had up
back at first aspen All strikes out as Renel Bloco

(01:22):
career high eleven strikeouts over eight shutout inns, has given
up just two hits and we head out to the bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Of the eighth.

Speaker 6 (01:34):
Yeah, he was pretty good yesterday, wasn't he. And with
that we say away we go in.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Good morning.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
Here it is a Sean Salisbury show here on a Monday,
Astros we go on in win yesterday, six nothing, take
two out of three from the Reds. Elsewhere, the Thunder
evening up their series in the Western Conference with the Nuggets,
Pacers one went away from the Eastern Conference finals, and
the Texans wrapping up rookie mini camp over the weekend.

(02:01):
But Sean yesterday, I mean, you know, we're talking about
it from a Friday in the seventeen games in seventeen days,
which it continues tonight with the start of a three
game series against the Royals City connect Monday over there
at dyk in Parks. So the Astro is trying to
keep things going. But man, just I mean, you know,

(02:22):
you say it all the time in sports, that was
needed what Renel Blanco did yesterday. If he had gone
six innings, I think you would have said, hey, you
know what, for the stretch that you're in, that's great.
But the fact that you really didn't have to use
any bullpen after Saturday night. You had to use all
of the bullpen strong.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, I thought it was impressive. Man, I.

Speaker 7 (02:49):
The whole weekend. I mean San Saturday, but Friday and
Mon Sunday. That's starting pitching at his finest. Dude, that's it.
Hunter Brown did what he does. I mean, he didn't
get you to the eight innings, but he was pretty dominant.
He probably walked more than he wanted to, but was
pretty stout in his performance. And then we'll get to

(03:10):
the mccullors thing here shortly.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I'm sure.

Speaker 7 (03:12):
After no, if you love sports so much you got
to make death threats, it's time for you to quit
or take it to or get a new hobby, because
I assure you the players don't care as much as
the fans do. They care about struggle. Don't misunderstanda we
take it home with us and you struggle, and sure
it sucks, but.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
The opposite would never be true. They're over.

Speaker 7 (03:33):
The Kansas City Chiefs got over the Super Bowl loss
far quicker than a fan or somebody who Now, if
you're betting it, and you're betting too many, you're betting
your life dependence on somebody went again. Then you're an idiot.
Then you're just stupid. Okay, you got an addiction problem.
If you're just doing it because you think you can
do the job better, well I suggest he's probably got
a better chance of doing your job better than you

(03:55):
do his. He can come on here and talk on
this Mike, probably quicker and better then you and I
can go grab and throw ninety seven mile on hour
fastballs and get people out.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I know the answer to that most people do exactly.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
He can go sell something, probably quicker than somebody who's selling.
Not to diminish their role or their importance or any
of that stuff, but then he could probably sell quicker
than you can throw a ninety five mile on our fastball,
then throw a hook in there and a change up
and get people out. The last thing is is that
spoy it can't be that serious. Well, we'll get to

(04:29):
this because I just think it's it's absolutely absud. There's
no game in my life I suffered with every loss.
There's no game that a team lost or that I
would have lost. And I say, you know what I think,
because I've had death threats as well, and about bludging
was the word they used on my kids.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
It's like you can't. You can't.

Speaker 7 (04:48):
First of all, you either got to laugh and just
move on with it, or like you take it serious
and hope that somebody's not that nuts. Been this day
and age, you don't know who's nuts. But I thought
the Blanco and Hunter Brown's performance, we're not just they
needed which just would Blanco over and above what was
needed and Hunter Brown just did what he always does,

(05:08):
and so it was they got it. They remember I
said over the week before we went to the weekend,
I said, you're gonna lose a handful of times.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
You're gonna give up.

Speaker 7 (05:17):
You're gonna be down ten to one, right, Well, are
you going to get you know, give one of those games?
Was like, okay, just get our way through it and
we do it. That'll happen a handful of times a
year for every team. Well it happened over the weekend
pretty good. They got the best of them. And then
the Reds came out and scored eight million runs on
Saturday and about four hundred million of them in the

(05:37):
first inning. So I was I was impressed with Blanco's grind.
That guy's that guy's been impressive since the beginning of
last he really has, and I love you know, you
go have a bad game and then come back and
just give you that eight solid well, well gave up
two hits, was really good. So you know, the elephant
in the room is Saturday and you know what's next.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
But the reactions a bit out of hand. So yeah,
good weekend.

Speaker 7 (06:04):
You win a series against a talented team, as you
got to see in that game Dela Cruz, and there's
some pretty gifted players on that team as well. So
a fun watch. But you win a series and Steve
Sparks will be on to join us. But I just
and fans can get as mad as they want. There's
nothing that can be serious enough in a game. If
you bet your house on a game, then I can't
help you. That's on you, especially on if you bet

(06:27):
your house. I'm just saying this on somebody who's coming
off an injury, and then you're even dumb with yeah,
then you're really dumb. The other side of that is
is while it's fun and important, it's not that important.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
It really his performance.

Speaker 7 (06:42):
I'm quite sure he didn't wake up out of bed
that day say I'm gonna go there and plug pitch well,
kind of like it happened to me in the World Series.
I'm just gonna get raked on my second start back
and think it's really cool. No nobody thinks like that,
but I assure you you are struggling, struggling more if
you're still bothered immensely. He's bothered, He'll go to work

(07:02):
and that's so. Then one thing about being the athlete
you can control because you go back to work and say, okay,
I got to get better the third start. As a
fan or media, we sit back and you can't control.
You know, you sit back and you can't put you
It's not tangible for you because from a disc I'm
putting your hands on it. But still, you can't love sports.
I've been doing it forever, Dude. I don't love sports
enough to make a death threat or or let it

(07:26):
ruin the next six months of my life over a game.
That doesn't mean you don't try. It doesn't mean you
put all your effort into it. Of course, it's your life,
it's your livelihood.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
You should.

Speaker 7 (07:34):
You know how I feel about people who I don't do.
I don't do h load management days.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I don't do that.

Speaker 7 (07:40):
But I can tell you this that when we start
to get to the point where this is the norm,
that's just kind of a regularly over a regular season
game where guys getting a second read his second starts.
Basically when I say rehab start, it's not that type
of rehab start. But he's still working his way back in.
It's and I don't know if he's ever going to
be the same guy. I don't know. I know this though.

(08:02):
It's just it's it's even more shameful to I mean,
to the threat and the guy, and you know, I
don't know how deep it went, how many times it happened,
but a little overboard, i'd say, and I'm being sark,
it's way overboard. It's a game, man, And if you're
betting your life on a game, meaning if you're one
of those, then then then you're you're as you need.

(08:23):
You're probably the one who needs a little bit more help, right.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
It's not only that it's a game. It's a game
on May the tenth, Like, think about that.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Now, you'll take it. Do you know he went home
taking it?

Speaker 7 (08:34):
I mean it's a grind of sure, but the threats
didn't help his game get any better. You didn't. You
didn't help the fans care anymore. But where there's the
family care anymore, you don't. You never want to be
strolling around your city as a player. Dan, We're wondering
when you walk in a grocertore and am I now
an outcast because I had a bad game? I mean,

(08:54):
you don't want to think like that. Nobody does. I mean,
everybody has a bad game at their work. Can you
imagine if every time you had a bad day at
your work what happened to him happened in your own
personal life. You'd say, no, no, no, this isn't for me.
Let me move out to the country. And you guys
are all nuts and so and it's don't cover. It's
not fair to the fan base. But whoever did, it's

(09:15):
it's inexcusable. You're right even on May tenth, but it'd
be inexcusable in late October.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Sure, yeah, it's just I mean, but they take it
and go back to work.

Speaker 7 (09:25):
But listen, man, I have never met an athlete yet
to love to humiliate himself or love to embarrass himself
or out of bad performance, and it'll go down as
bad A regular season performance for him as he's had,
but it doesn't warrant bludgeoning and death threats and all
this to you and your family and kids, because then
it's just no matter what happens. Now you go in
sand and is this a place I want to be in? Sadly,

(09:47):
there's that type in every city.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
That's the sad part. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
I mean, you know, if you want to look at
the positives though from the weekend to be you know,
even in that game, I mean that third inning, the
Astros explode for six runs and you're kind of like,
wait a minute, where's this output been from you guys?
And I said it at the time, Sean that probably
where they were it was a twelve to one game
at that point that I think that probably you had

(10:10):
guys finally with runners in scoring positions saying, hey, I'm
not gonna have a ten run swing right here like this,
this is the quintessential. Just put a good swing on
the ball and let the you know, just let everything
go where it may. And that's where you got the
output in that ending. And I think that even kind
of carried over even into.

Speaker 7 (10:31):
Yesterday, because you know, the pressure of the game is
it's it's like like when you're sick. Some of the
best games a lot of us have had, and I
don't care what level is. When you're not feeling well,
you take pressure off yourself.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
It's like.

Speaker 7 (10:43):
I shouldn't even be playing in this game, but I'm
gonna play the next thing. You know, you're like, have
one of the games of your life. You're like, how
did this happen? It's because you're like, you're just reacting.
You're not. It's not that you're not over you know
you're not. You're not over cluttering your mind. Sure, when
you're not, it's true because you're worried about just getting through, hydrating,
getting through.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Happened, happened to had full time.

Speaker 7 (11:02):
You're like, I don't know how many get through, but
I can't not play because I got the flu.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
I gotta play.

Speaker 7 (11:06):
And by the halftime you're like, I don't know what's
going on. I know the first half was a blur,
but damn. I kind of like the way.

Speaker 6 (11:12):
That's like what Romeo said in what's it called ten Cup?
Because you're not thinking of the doctor League.

Speaker 7 (11:16):
That's exactly right. It's the same thing here. You're like, Okay,
we're getting smoked. Now I'm actually you actually are like
fine tuning your own game, saying okay, just let me
just put a good swing and there's no pressure driving
a run. It's what twelve to two, right, so you're
you're you're taking your It almost feels like, okay, this
is an extended spring game. You know, Okay, remember what

(11:37):
I said. You're gonna lose one hundred of them, or
should I say eighty of them? You know, somewhere along
the lineer sixty five for sure. Sure, if you're a
great team, you lose sixty five and then the other
you know, whether it's ten more on one side or
ten more on the other. If you're one hundred and
ten win team or you're a ninety win team, there's
those fifteen or twenty, it's gonna be like, well, that
was an ass whooping both ways, you're either whooping their

(11:59):
ass by a double. Gest're there somebody's beating down right,
or you're twenty one to nothing or whatever it was
Padres against Colorado, Right, that mean one of those games,
what are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (12:09):
So what do you what?

Speaker 7 (12:10):
You still gotta play nine innings, so you're just trying
to put the bat on the ball and you're trying
to throw strike to the truth is you're trying to
get out. You're trying to get your quality of bats.
It's a stat patter game. Hopefully we get a little rolling.
If we get a little lucky, fine, but let me
just let me just you kind of gotta smile on
your face. You take pressure off because like everything's gravy
now because we're not now down twelve to one or

(12:31):
fourteen to or twenty one to nothing in the car,
swing away, man, let it rip. What's a big deal,
And you probably take pressure. It happens all the time.
It's that mind over, you know, when the when the
minds relaxed, the body does some crazy and when your
athletes like those guys are, it can do some crazy things.
So it's a but I liked the weekend overall with

(12:51):
what I saw Sam Saturday, which was unfortunate in more
ways than one for sure.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
And we will get into some of those unfortunate things
that happened on a Saturday here and also i'll let
you later on the show here from Dana Brown, some
interesting things from him, and with the Texans rookie mini
camp wrapping up over the weekend, Sean, an interesting message
from Damico ryans Man. I was fired up as soon
as I heard this. We'll have all that during the show.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
You mentioned it.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
Steve Sparks will join us for his weekly visit eight
am right here on the show. And so we're just
getting going here on the Sean Salisbury Show on a Monday.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
There's a lot happening and he's got a lot to
say about it. Sean Salisbury continues on seven nineteen.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
We've talked about it, the threats that were made to
mccullor's family and kids after the game, and that's where
Joe A Spot has started his visit with the media
on Saturday.

Speaker 8 (13:49):
I'm going to start saying something. I just left my
office and is very unfortunate that lands mccolors, that they
are people who are threatening his life and the life
of his.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Kids because of his performance.

Speaker 8 (14:12):
It is very unfortunate that we have to deal with this,
after all he's done for the city, for this team.
The fact that we have to talk about that in
my office. I got kids too, and it really drives
me nuts that we have to deal with this.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Very sad, very very sad.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
I mean that last thump right there on the podium
probably told you everything you need to know about how
Joe Aspota felt. But I mean that's kind of personalizing
it too there at the end Sean where I'm sure
he's probably had people on social media where I think
Joe is on Instagram unless that's a fake account and
somebody is just impersonating being him. I don't really understand

(14:55):
why you would do that. But still, people are weird,
as obviously we found out on Saturday. But I mean,
you know, that's that's the thing that goes into all
of this, and I think when we have situations like this,
it kind of humanizes these guys even.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
More where you're like, wait a minute.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
You know, I'm I'm a father, I've got kids, I've
got responsibilities outside of my job. I mean, nobody's coming
to see me do my job. But at the same time,
I mean, you know, if somebody did that to my kids,
I think I'd probably feel a certain way.

Speaker 7 (15:25):
Yeah, I just don't somebody explain to me the reason, Well,
what could First of all, it's not funny and don't
be sense of you and people think because you make
a lot of money that you're just did all the
rest of everything else just a shield. No matter what
anybody says or does to your family or that it's

(15:46):
it doesn't penetrate any part of you.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Right. It's like it doesn't matter how much money you make.

Speaker 7 (15:52):
Guys get this is his family that you can't You
can't buy away somebody else's stupidity and no player or
person And I've ever been around now, there's plenty of
weirdos out there, but nobody likes to fail or have,
like I said, have games like yesterday or Saturday. But
I'm sure nobody likes to have that in life. But

(16:12):
I don't understand the concept. Somebody can call in here
and tell me that if you love sports enough to
do it the right way, which you saw with Lancema Colors,
ain't in. If you love sports that much that death
threats and that your life is ruined by or your

(16:33):
week is ruined by a game, especially in baseball when
they play them every friggin day, then I would suggest
that you probably nobody cares like you care, and that's
the wrong way to care. I've never cared enough. People
are gonna say, well you didn't care, Yeah, oh I
cared a lot. It's been my whole outside my family,

(16:54):
sports has been my life and provided me with a
great livelihood. Never enough Number one to allow you but
that the death threat will never come in person from
a fan. It'll never come in person because they're coward,
bitch ass coward, they're afraid to death to do that.
It will never come up in person. It'll always be
from somebody who quite frankly, doesn't have the balls to

(17:17):
do it anyway. And if it's ten of you, I'm
speaking to all of them, it'll it'll never. It's never
nobody's going to walk up and make a death threat
to you in person because they're because they don't have
the courage. So yeah, And like I said, this isn't
that you have to. I don't care if you ever
cheer for Lancema Colors. That's the youth that I don't know.
I could care less.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
That's on.

Speaker 7 (17:39):
I mean, I don't know why you wouldn't root for
somebody's comeback, whether it was here or somebody else, to
have success after being out that long. And I understand
he's a very confident guy and been out and the
second or earn a lot of money and you're not
performing for it. You take a lot of flak. It
doesn't mean he doesn't care. He's getting paid a lot
of money. I had some unfortunate circumstances and hopefully has
trained the way he's supposed to get back. But I

(18:01):
just I've never understood the concept. I just I haven't.
I've never understood the concept of loving it so much
and don't tell you well, it's just passion. No, that's
when passion crosses a line of stupidity. And if you're
not careful, I just say this, have the guts to
do it in person. I always say, put your name,
I the gut's doing in person sometime and let's let's
just see how that works out for you. But it'll

(18:24):
never happen. It'll never I'm not encouraging violence, but if
you're gonna, if you're going to play that card, to
do it in person one time, and let let let
let's see how this works. So I just to me,
I think it's absurd. I don't know, like I said,
it was that a thousand people, was it ten people?

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Was it one?

Speaker 7 (18:42):
But one's too many? And how serious they are not?
But you just see you get to a point, I
come on now, I mean, like I said, the players
will always move on faster than the fan will. As
far as you know, you'll get the ones say well,
I'm still get paid. I don't care what you say.
You get the one that says, yeah, I'm working my
hard to get my best to get have it. You'll
get the one that you know, man, I hate let

(19:04):
my team down. You and and some it's all in one.
Nobody wants to go through that. But I just listen,
sports have been my life. I don't love it enough
to make a death threat or quite frankly, try to,
quite frankly take your death threat too serious until you
decide that you want to do it in person, right,
and then then we can address that in person the
way it's supposed to be addressed.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Kind of reminds me of the meme that's out there
of a quote attributed to Mike Tyson of social media
has made people too comfortable saying things without the fear
of getting punched in the face.

Speaker 7 (19:35):
That's why they won't say it in person. And like
I said, regardless, it's just like when does it? When?
When do you were sitting around home saying you know what,
I'm sitting him at breath throit, I'm gonna o these
kids and stuff or I mean, who does that? I
just have never understood the content of a struggling performance that,
but most athletes have gone through something like that, and

(19:56):
I listen. I don't know at any point in time
when when lancema colors, I know the injury are frustrating,
but I'm sure quite frustrating to him. I don't know
where he encouraged somebody to threaten his kids, because the
one thing about the adult will get over it. Do
you really want to the age of his kids thinking
about stuff like this? Or his wife he's married, right,
she's it's his wife, not right? Yeah, I just think

(20:18):
two kids. Yeah, I don't know. Sports is well, it's
my livelihood. It's not important enough for me to take
or give to death threat or to my life so
enhanced and so engrossed in sports that one loss during
a baseball regular season game in May is enough to
want to have you death threat somebody.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah. I'll never love sports that much ever.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
Yeah, before we hear from Lance McCullers, I saw this
idea on social media, and god, it makes so much sense.
Like remember, you know, shows like Cheaters or Blind Date
Roger Lodge. You know those shows out there where you know,
blind date, not as much the confrontational angle of it,
but like Catfished on on MTV, there needs to be
a version of this for cyber bullies, like there needs

(21:04):
to be you know, I don't care if it's Max
and Neve, but somebody all host the show.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Hell, I'll do it.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
Of you know, somebody says something like this to people
and then you track them down, you find them, you
put them on camera, and you.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
You embarrass them for it.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
Of you know, oh hey, you think you can say
things like this to people and get away with it. Yeah,
we got another thing coming for you. Guess what now
the now the entire nation knows that you're an a hole.

Speaker 7 (21:31):
Or you walk a guy into the room that you
made the threat to and see how that threat shut up. Yeah,
just it's just it's it's too many good things to
talk about, and even if it's a negative thing to
talk about his performance and why all you want that's
not the issue. If you want to criticize a way,
have at it. But there is a line and that's
one that should be etched in stone, not drawn in

(21:52):
the sand. You can't move the goalpost. Kids, kids and
family are off limits.

Speaker 9 (21:56):
Man.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
That's just a way. If you want to tell me
I'm bad, you want to fight over it, that's fine.
I could care less.

Speaker 10 (22:01):
Year.

Speaker 7 (22:02):
That never bothered me because at least I had the
balls to go out there and do it. Did somebody else,
that's you know, what are you going to do?

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Sure?

Speaker 7 (22:08):
But the criticism, Hell, you don't have to criticize me.
I know plenty of times that I've done some I'll
jump out in front of the criticisms. I sucked today
and let my team down, that's no problem. But you're
never I've never sucked enough to warrant you're behind the scenes, you.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Know, death threat.

Speaker 7 (22:28):
So it's it's just to me, it's why it's using
up time, why anybody would do that, And like I said,
even if it's one, it's too many. But if you're
lance the colors, you'll move on. But you know, trying
to explain it to kids, and I've been there having
to explain. Fortunately they were too young to even know
better really for the most part. But it's just it's
a it's an embarrassment. And not only that, it's it's

(22:50):
it is and people are out of hand because they
don't understand the consequences. They don't have to because they
get to hide behind whatever it is they hide behind.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
Yeah, well you know, well you say put your name
on it. Well, and also to put a face to it.

Speaker 7 (23:05):
You think they want that ass whopping, they don't want that. Well,
it's not even just an ass right now. I'm just
talking about overall just coming after you. Now you got that,
I'm talking about everybody. Yeah, yeah, it's so, it's not
it's not just the literal punching you in the face.
It's when that ass whopping's coming from a lot of
different people, in a lot of different forms.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's just was it worth it? Yeah, that's what I'll
ask you. Was it worth having that?

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Now?

Speaker 7 (23:29):
No matter where you go you carry this around. Yeah,
it's just dumb. Nobody should love sports that much, sorry
to tell you, not even the guy playing it. Another
show death threat Worthy, Get out of here. Another show
that did stuff like this was Bully beat Down. They
used to have it where it was a UFC fighter
who I think has since gone to prison.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
But that's besides the point.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
But the whole thing was is you know somebody that
was giving somebody else a hard time. They finally put
them in an octagon with the UFC fighter and said, okay,
you know, if you want to be a tough guy.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
How'd that turn out? Here's your chance?

Speaker 6 (24:00):
And more often than not not well, because you were
fighting against a professional fighter and you thought that you
were a fake tough guy.

Speaker 7 (24:06):
Right that you criticize because all you suck in the ring,
and then you get to go in there and just
see how what sucks feels like right now, I was
gonna say, here's a nice little roundhouse right to the end. Yeah,
you learn awfully quick that that suck. You mean, maybe
it sucks to you from your living room, but then
when you got to go in and face it, Yeah,
I bet that guy was urinating out his leg.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
There you have to go deal with it.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
So I think we got the idea here next time
that Lance does like a simulated game.

Speaker 7 (24:33):
Uh, these people put them in the batter's box. Put
them put them in the batters. Well, they may not
get a chance to swing the bat. They'd probably take
one hundred in the rib cage.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
There you go. There you go.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
Well, if it's not just from LAMB ninety two, yeah,
somebody else. Oh, you taught you're coming after my guy. Yeah,
here you go.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Here's the CC Sabbathew treatment before you go. Yeah, Rob Dibble,
Yeah exactly. Yeah, you don't. You don't mess with Rob.
You don't. You don't mess with the nasty boys, the
French Dibbler.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Yeah we we we learned those lessons him, Norm Charlton,
Rice Guy. By the way, Mike and Jason see you
guys right there. Also, do you want to let you
hear from Lance mcculler's after Saturday Night. But the good
news is the Astros take two out of three, so
we'll talk about that too as the show goes along.
But Sean Salisbury show here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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The Sewn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 11 (27:12):
Good morning, Jason, Good morning, tell us how y'all doing today?

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Great man, how are you?

Speaker 11 (27:21):
I can't complain. Hope y'all.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Hope y'all.

Speaker 11 (27:24):
His wives and y'all's mother's had a good mother's day, by.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
The way, same to you, man. Appreciate it.

Speaker 11 (27:31):
You know, I'm in my own prothorities, and I know
that every decade has a generational fan base, and like
you know, I feel like I can appreciate the things
that players have done. And let's be honest, athletes and

(27:52):
celebrities are two different people. You don't exactly see security
surrounding athletes when they go out in public unless it's
like a personal event that they're holding or whatever. But like,
I just feel like, and I'm not taking a stab
at the younger generation, but I just feel like, you know,

(28:14):
the fan base that is underneath me only appreciates what
you do for them now exactly. Remember you know the
World Series game where he was throwing all the curve
balls and you know, the Dodgers just couldn't couldn't do nothing,
and you know, evidently the Astros ended up winning that game.

(28:35):
But like, you know, you got to learn to separate
sports from reality. You know, sports is something that you
can love and appreciate, and you know the fact that
an athlete is getting threatened because he I mean, and
let's be honest, he hasn't pitched over a year and
a half, maybe two years. It was only the second

(28:56):
game back. Yeah, you know, you can't exactly it's baseball.
You don't exactly know what's gonna happen. You can assume
that he's gonna go out there and do his best,
but like you have to, you have to learn to
kind of separate reality from fun and like when you
start bringing children and family into it, it's kind of

(29:19):
ridiculous and like.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah, no, some people just need to grow up.

Speaker 7 (29:24):
Now.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
I appreciate the call, Jason. I mean, Sean, this is
something that I've said before, and I don't know if
I've said it here on this show. It's the video
game culture of sports now. Like people I think look
at Lance mccullor's and you know, jose Al Tuvay whoever
it ell is that some people look at them like
almost like they're characters in the game, Like they're not
even real people like that, they're you know, not somebody

(29:46):
who just happens to have a high profile job and
is very skilled at doing something and they're able to
do that for a living. So it's thought of as
you live the charm life.

Speaker 7 (29:56):
You don't you get paid a lot of money, you're
impervious to all of the other a struggles that me
and you and other people go through on a daily basis. Well,
they can pay their bills a little quicker, maybe Regardless,
I don't. They still they still take their kid to school,
and they still go struggle, and they still don't want

(30:16):
to be booed and they still. I mean, you can
get into the emotion. Always tough guy. Everybody cares. How
you respond to it is the next level of Okay,
what's he going to do the next start? I told
you my concern was how was his arm going to respond?
From start one to start two? It didn't look real good.
But it's not worthy of a death threat. I mean,
it's a game, and I know it's a livelihood and

(30:38):
what we call it a game? To Lance mccollors, I'm
sure Saturday wasn't a game. It was a miserable experience
that it's his livelihood because the windows well, I don't know,
is there a window that's shorter in sport or in
careers than being a professional athlete. You commit to a career,
if you're fortunate, you play two years. Everybody the average

(31:00):
career span for a football players less than three years.
We see all the Brady's playing un till over forty.
That's not reality, dude. Most of them don't sniff it.
And its same with mc colors. He takes his jobs
here is I just we can sit here all we want. Well,
he's not above criticism at all. Criticize away criticisms. That's
a compliment, criticized what that has nothing to do with this,

(31:20):
or feeling sorry for him because he had a struggled start. Yeah,
it's a bummer, but you'll respond. He's faced stuff like
I mean, I could take you back to Philadelphia's series.
That wasn't very fun for him. Matter of fact, the
last time he made an extended appearance, it felt like
that was it right pre to the first start this year.
So and so it's the second start. Like I said,

(31:41):
you can criticize away and say you want him out
and you don't want him here and he doesn't blow it, well,
you say whatever you want, or you love him and
you want him that's fine.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
I just don't. I'm trying to figure out the upside to.

Speaker 7 (31:55):
To he's still getting paid, he's still going to pitch.
The upside to the death threats. I'm waiting for a
fan to come on and tell me that, oh we
all need to love sports that much? Did it matters
so much to us that threatening death? So every time
somebody misses a sale in this building, or somebody misses

(32:16):
a sale somewhere else, or every time a school teacher
prepared the wrong day lesson, or every time you know
a politician makes a bad decision. The death threats criticize
a way death threats. Can you imagine your job that
every time you went to the death threats? Well, no,
hey man, you were wrong. I was twenty twenty three,
not twenty twenty four that they went to the playoffs.

(32:37):
Oh my bad. I want to kill your kid. I
want to bludgeon your family. I mean, are we serious?
It's just and money. Money has zero to do with
being able to allow to give death threats. Boom when
he walks into the building. That's on you. I have
at it if you.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Want to boom.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
But there is a line, and that line will never
come to a player's face. It will never happen.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Well you hope it doesn't.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
Well, yeah, that doesn't mean that players are all, but
it's never the guy. Have you ever noticed that the
player won't ever the former player is not the one
that'll ever give the death threat to the To the
players plant why they realize how tough it is.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, and most fans get it. They do.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
The sad thing about it now that this is going
to follow Oh you mean Houston? I mean where they
make death threats because the guy had a bad start,
you don't. It goes on in every city. They trust me.
If Philadelphia athletes got them, so is a Pittsburgh athlete.
So is this a Dodger athlete. They've all got them.
But to carry that around and then the fan BASI,
it's not. We got all our callers and listeners that

(33:40):
are great fans and on Twitter to and I know
that fans get it. You listen you want to talk
about like humble Pie or nuts is just read the
threat after a game's lost in any sport. It's like,
it's like, I can't believe people are this into this.
And and I've been doing it for the well more

(34:00):
than that, thirty years in this and then plane, I mean,
you're talking about fifty years of my life. I still
can't understand it. I still can't. I understand the passion
and your love for which I love. I can't understand
the overboard part of it, you know, the well the fandom,
the fanatic part of it. The fans get into it
in a good way. I don't understand it in the
negative way. I just don't, because the second something happens

(34:23):
to them, they want your prayers and your thoughts for
their career. Right, man, man, listen, I'm going for a
new interview. I struggled with my lad. Oh man, I
could use your guys prayers. Could very well be the
same person who you know who who goes on Twitter
and destroys their player because.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
He had a bad outing. Come on now.

Speaker 7 (34:45):
So I don't even know where to go with this
other than I said to think about. I think, you know,
could you can you get mad or do you get
to a point where it's like eye rolling?

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Oh? Here we go.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
This is great, but as a fan base, it's not
fair to the fan base. But unfortunately, what it does
it follows the whole fan base around because of it,
and it's not fair because most of them are really good.
Once in a while, you'll get these type of people
who are like, hey man, it's May night. The guy
had a struggle or May tenth. Oh, let me threaten
to kill his kid. You know, really, come on, man,

(35:15):
it's just you got to do better than that. Sports
isn't that important. If you're betting your life on it,
then you need to go get help. Well I mean
that a way, but do it the right way.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
Yeah, I mean, look, you appreciate people's passion, but it's
just that's not passion, that's stupidity. Well, and that's and
that's where I was going. I mean, it's just there's
a rule in our business, for example, where we've got
to be critical. I mean, that's part of the job.
That's that's what we have to be. Don't ever make
it personal.

Speaker 7 (35:39):
If you don't make it personal and it's fair, nobody
has a problem with being critical, complementary or right.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
And you'll have people who will take you to task
on it. I've had it.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
I've walked in the locker rooms clubhouses and had somebody
take me to task on it.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
And then my response was, what did I say that
was wrong? Or you want to know?

Speaker 7 (35:55):
Because the truth is, if we're able to criticize them,
they can criticize you.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Sure, and right fan show up. That's not that big
a deal.

Speaker 7 (36:01):
And then once you're talking about okay, cool, I disagree,
but I understand where you're coming from. The second you
start crossing the line saying, hey man, you had a
bad game, your kid sucks, or you had a bad game.
Oh and then your kid's a pitcher in the little
league and your kid has a bad game. Oh, hey man,
you take it after your dad or your mom. You
know what I'm saying, stuff like that, lead the kids
out of it. If you criticize away, if you'll just

(36:21):
lead the kids and the and the personal stuff out
of it. You criticize away and tell them you think
they suck for four hundred days a year and there's
only three hundred and sixty five up.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
And athletes will deal with it.

Speaker 7 (36:34):
It's just like when you start to get personal and
then they get mad when the oh, you're tough guy,
Now you want to fight me. No, I don't want
to fight you, but you know where I'm pretty easy
to find, because then there comes to a point where
you're like, well I got to lose, But don't nobody
wants to think like that. I mean, they grown men
beating up on each other, but threat But we see
it every day. You say grown men, yet grown it's
the adults in the room that screw everything up.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Now.

Speaker 7 (36:55):
I don't know how old this is. This person's who
made the threat to us. I don't know when I
first I said, now are we kidding about this? Are
you serious? And that's the conversation. But it's the colladal.
The athlete will deal with it. It's the family and
the collateral damage that it does. Like, come on, man,
you shouldn't have to deal with this when you're as
an athlete. You should have to deal with it as anybody.

(37:16):
But I've just I've never understood. I love fandom and
I love passion. When you cross the line like that,
then you take the ass whooping' what did you expect?

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (37:27):
And whatever that asshooping that is, I don't mean physically
mean law coming after you stuff. Was it really worth
the laughs and giggles you got on Twitter or whatever
social media is, or when they read the letter or
whatever it was on social media.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
It's just it's not. It's not that you know.

Speaker 7 (37:44):
Then you go win on So okay, so what anybody
get a death threat yesterday for striking out three times?
Or somebody strike out once over the weekend giving up
a walk off home run? Did that person get a
death threat in another city? I mean it just it's
it's like then you wonder why sometimes, well why aren't
you stopping and talking? Well, I don't know, are you
the one who gave me the death threat? Then you
start to put everybody in the same category as a player.

(38:05):
You just do and then you get better at them.
And even though it wasn't their fault, and there's a
twelve year old who deserves your autograph, you walk by,
can you think you know what? That guy's dad is
the one who gave me the day? Even though you
don't know, you know what I'm saying. You start borrowing trouble,
and it's just it doesn't serve any purpose. Man, I
think it's just dumb. Well, I have a hard time
even booing somebody at a game.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Little bit.

Speaker 7 (38:23):
That's your right if you pay for the ticket, But
I got zero interest and zero in the death threat
thing that you've crossed the line made it personal now
and now it's on other than that, criticize away.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Don't borrow trouble.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
With it being the day after Mother's Day, that was
a good piece of advice my mom would give me.

Speaker 7 (38:40):
An honest, my mother always said, don't chase a ghost.
Don't borrow Well, what if this happened, don't chase a
ghostly nothing there? Yeah, And don't borrow trouble. When trouble hits,
to deal with it, and that don't borrow it. And
when you make death threats, you're borrowing a lot of trouble.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
For sure, but there is positives all the way around
for the Astros. Right now, we'll cover some of those
up six clock hour here on the Seawan Salisbury Show.
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
And it no now you know, already getting ready for
the football season.

Speaker 7 (39:15):
Mean, it can't be shocked, right, Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles,
super Bowl champs, Cowboys everybody then now, thanks, so they're
gonna do Dak's gonna be the MVP. Right Yeah, Pickens
didn't waste any time throwing Pittsburgh onto the bus. Didy
that headache started to hurry. It's it's gonna be interesting.

(39:36):
It's gonna be You think you've got tired of people
covering the Cowboys in the past. There's enough attitude and
personality on that team you're gonna cover them. And that's
a good early season test and a good way to
open the season.

Speaker 6 (39:48):
I know, we Joe Champs, we joked about, you know,
going through the schedule once it's released, which we're not
going to do. I mean, aside from maybe telling you, hey,
they've got two Sunday nights and you know, Thursday night.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Whatever it is, This season.

Speaker 6 (40:02):
But you know what's gonna end up happening in that game,
sure as You're born again, is Cowboys are gonna come out.
They're gonna win that game and there, and they're gonna
win it pretty convincingly. And then what are we gonna
have on all the talking head shows and everything the
following morning? Oh well, you know, they they finally found
the right formula. You know, you had a guy like
George Pickens. That's that's what's gonna end up happening. And

(40:25):
you know, I remind people that it's September. It's not December,
it's not January, it's not any of those things.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Where's that game out in Philly? It is in Philly.

Speaker 7 (40:32):
Yeah, I'll take that bet. Okay, Cowboys ain't beating Philadelphia
in the opener in Philadelphia. Jbar and barbecue on it twice. Okay, yeah,
I got Philadelphia. I don't count on the hangover. I
think they'll come out ready to go, and the Cowboys
are still looking to find themselves.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Give me Philadelphia, Okay, fair enough. I like it. I
like it.

Speaker 7 (40:52):
I'm already that the future's bet on it. I don't
know what the spread is gonna be gimme Philly at home.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Well, we won't yell at anybody if it doesn't go either.

Speaker 7 (41:00):
Or give a death threat. What a novel concept. Yeah,
you mean sports is actually a little perspective on it. Yeah,
for sure, idea for sure.

Speaker 6 (41:07):
Let's get into the seven o'clock hour as we'll continue
the Astros conversation, also.

Speaker 7 (41:12):
To I've got a good stake out for you today.
I think you're really gonna enjoy it. I think everybody's
going to really enjoy it. As we're trying to have
an enjoyable show here on the Shawn Salisbury Show.

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Speaker 6 (42:06):
Thunder evening up the series with Nuggets at to a
piece and the Pacers three one lead. Now on the
Calves Texans wrapping up rookie mini camp over the weekend.
Get in the sum of the Texans here in this hour,
because Demico Ryans, man, you want to be fired up.
And where what four months away from the season getting underway,
and you know you hear things like this from Demico Ryans,

(42:27):
You're like, let's go, Let's get to September right now.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
You are ready to start. Damn right, you are ready
to start for this. This is the time of the year.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
This is the time of the year football wise, that
you start to kind of really feel the itch coming
on and you know that the cure is right around
the corner. Where once you get to May, I would say, yeah,
you know you can at least see it off in
the distance.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
You're feeling it.

Speaker 6 (42:53):
Then you know, June you can smell it. Then July
you know, July you can taste it. And then of
course once you get to the end of that month,
full go.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
So you know it's crazy.

Speaker 7 (43:03):
I'm not uh, I'm not I'm not ready for football season,
not even close. You can hold off on that, you
give it to me. And in July a third time, Yeah,
I'm not ready for not even close. I'm in the
middle of basketball and the throws, as we like to say,
in the throws of basketball. No, basketball ended a week ago,

(43:23):
and I mean I'm at baseball. Yeah, baba, Yeah, I
know you did his teams out of it. There's still
some good hoops going. I'm telling you what, Pacers can
win the whole thing too. Don't blink at that team.
They're pretty damn shout out.

Speaker 6 (43:33):
Jonathan Allen on the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. You
said Eastern Conference Finals. I was like, okay, yeah, they're
pretty freaking good. So yeah, No, I'm at baseball. I'm
in the throws of that spring, you know you, yeah,
give me. I'm not ready for football football starting now.
I'd be burned out by the time July hit. So
I don't mind talking about it. We got to talk
about But as far as the season starting and gearing

(43:55):
up for college game Day and then Sundays, you talk
to me around middle of July, then I'm like, okay,
I like to I like this part of baseball season.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (44:04):
I could have college game Day every single Saturday, even
if it was just you know, somebody doing yard work,
and you got Reech Davis and everybody out there love them. Yeah,
the signs I love them, but I got a I
need some breathing football. The draft kind of re energized it,
but it also okay, cool, Now we got some time

(44:25):
see how these guys fit with their new teams and
all that. Yeah, middle of July is when I'll be ready.
I'm not ready for football yet. Let's go ahead and
set a timestamp on that. Seven point thirty is when
we're gonna hear from Tamika Ryans. I'm the complete opposite man,
Like you know, you step out the door this morning,
a little cool outside as you stepped out. That's why
as soon as I stepped out, I was like, man,
I need to go in and get a poll over.

(44:46):
Went in and grabbed one really quick and then got
in the car to come in here. But I mean
that was that was that was football weather.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
Yeah, but it's like it's weird that it's like we're
in like, oh, don't worry it in May and it's
like we're a day away. Oh I know, but it's like, man,
can I now I got to wake up and wren
throws with a hoodie on right here.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
You feel me done? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (45:04):
Man, you get get the breakfast tacos, going, get a
little bit of some good breakfast going.

Speaker 7 (45:09):
Then it's fall. Yeah, oh yeah, hell yeah, I get
ready for it. But you can't be ready for football yet.
You know you hear baseball mode, right.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
You hear a beer crack in the house, and then
you don't get the judgment. Oh it's not even noon yet.

Speaker 7 (45:20):
Well it's football, yeah right, it's yeah right here, hem
that is I'm with you here the champagne pop start
making some mimosas if you want to go that route.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
I don't judge you. You kind of you're probably a
mimsy guy. I I da, I do, I do.

Speaker 6 (45:36):
It's not my go to, but if they are available,
and and you've got the right to accoutram mall with it.

Speaker 7 (45:42):
I think you're a bottomless mimsy guy, not a bunch
on a brunch Sunday. It just depends on how many
memsies you have on Mother's Day. The truth, Uh, yesterday
I had to see you're a mimsy guy. Had on
the celebration of mimsies. Yeah, megs are our our dog mother.
She she made breakfast just and yeah, I had a

(46:03):
couple with it. Do you call him? Did you say
give him mimosa? Or can I get a mimsy the truth.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
I call him momos, momos, momos. How's your man card?
Pretty good? It can still attack? Yeah, okay, just make it.

Speaker 7 (46:16):
I I'm just making sure that your band card wasn't
swiped for me yesterday from somebody.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Hey, you didn't any threats, did you know? Okay? Guy,
And if you do, I'll just ignore it and just
keep it, keep it on. That's it.

Speaker 7 (46:30):
Yeah, all right, your bass is probably your straight orange
juice champagne.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Mama.

Speaker 7 (46:36):
You go to you go, you're your old school boring
a little bit. You're not boring, but you went the
you went the traditional route. I'll go pineapple, too little
mixing a pine A little grapefruit, A little pink grapefruit,
not a big grapefruit guy. Really yeah, too much acidic
for you? Yeah, I just feel like grapefruit, Like you know,
it's just kind of you know, like you get that
tanginess that like almost hits you back in your wisdom teeth. Well,

(46:58):
I wouldn't know what tanging is. My mouth feels like,
but I'll leave that to you anyway. Uh Anyway, I uh,
I know what the bitter taste of like the thank
you that's why you're here, Sean, I just try to
clean up the best, buddy, no pun intended, but hey,
you just did that tangy taste in your mouth, Dan,
I don't. I'm not quite sure I've tasted that way.

Speaker 6 (47:19):
But it's also though, I mean again, it's like how
the night before wins. Sometimes sometimes that might mean a
meat as needed good.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
Yeah, a little red beer the next day to go
with that. That'll get that'll get that gut feeling better.

Speaker 6 (47:35):
And I'll dabble every once in a while and tang
air stuff in a bloody marry and spicy bloody.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
But you go to some of these places.

Speaker 6 (47:44):
But you go to some of these places and like
you know, they've got different bloody Mary's and you'll have
you know, like I've seen some of them, like where
it's like a lobster tail on it and I'm like,
I'm just I'm just trying to drink to drink, man,
I'm not trying to have dude.

Speaker 7 (47:57):
There is a serious like four pieces of crab, yeah,
a jumbo shrip cocktail, a piece of celery that's the
four feet long. Yeah, Bacon all over the place, olives,
blue cheese.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
I mean, I am too.

Speaker 7 (48:13):
The problem is that you can just put it in
a bowl and put him moshpit together and eat it
all up pretty much. But they got it in the
edge of your drink, and you're like, Okay, how do
I sift through this the salt or whatever it is,
the taheen and I got bacon, I got bacon wrapped steak.
I got a ten ten ounce New York strip on

(48:35):
top of my glass. I mean, it's true, it's like
like overloaded with all that stuff that tastes good. But
by the time you get to the Bloody Mary, you're
full and the brunch doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
It's but that's that tangy taste in your mouth.

Speaker 6 (48:46):
Dan, It's the throw pillow of drinks, is what it is.
That's pretty much what it is like. You know, it's
kind of like in the movie along King PAULI, you know, Liberating.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Is that Benny Stiller it is?

Speaker 7 (48:59):
Yeah, yeah, and then he meets Jennifer Anston and things
went well overrated. Yeah, it's not like the movie. I
ain't talking about the movie. Benny Stiller overrated actor.

Speaker 6 (49:09):
He had his time, but I think it was also
too like where it was like, what is really his appeal? Like,
is he really that funny or is he just like
the neurotic nerdy guy that is.

Speaker 7 (49:19):
Always you know what role he's playing, right? You know
when I say over, I like Ben Stillar, I guess
he just I think that he's he's uh, he's never
going to carry a movie by himself.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
No, how about that now.

Speaker 6 (49:32):
I mean like Tropic Thunder, you needed Tom Cruise, you
needed Matthew McConaughey.

Speaker 7 (49:36):
You needed Downey Junior. I mean he needed the laughs.
I mean Jack Black, you know all those.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
He's another one. He's another one that people are like,
that's it.

Speaker 7 (49:48):
All he does in movies is just that's That's pretty
much all he does. What's my boy Kitty Power's real name?
Oh god, I always called Kitty Powers because Kenny Powers,
what the hell his name? I think I think is funny,
he's great. I think he's sneaky, funny, he's in your
face for Yeah, he's classic, so and so sarcastic. So yeah,

(50:10):
I I just uh along came Polly memzis all that stuff.
But you know, we're going to work on that Dan
making sure that we get that tangy taste. Still, of course,
I am I'm very the lead on that great segment
by you.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
I was talking about acidity of fruits.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
I know what you're talking about. Why I'm trying to
try to prevent you from being too acidic? Okay, got you,
Oh tangy, whatever you prefer. That's much better than the inflammatories.
I got enough inflammatory. That's that's me looking out dog.
I appreciate it, you know how we do. I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (50:44):
But you know, just to kind of, you know, get
it a little bit more into the astros from over
the weekend. I mean, are we aware to even without
your on Alvarez? And I mean we'll see how much
longer josel t is gonna be out with that tight hamstring.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
There are two games back.

Speaker 7 (51:00):
We knew that this was gonna happen with Jose too.
He's gonna get a little soft tissue tight hammy or
calf or something and rib cage and miss a.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Game or two or whatever. Where are we on the ord?
One thing isn't ten days close.

Speaker 6 (51:13):
Gripped a bat yesterday, gonna swing off a tee today
and then i'd probably guess if that goes well, maybe
a little light batting practice tomorrow, and then I think
Wednesday is kind of little kill all for them because
Dana yesterday on the pregame show said that they hope
for the Rangers series.

Speaker 7 (51:29):
That'd be great, so that their enthusiasm is good too.
That means that even if he's not ready one day,
feels like he'd be ready the next, right, So that's
a good thing now with Jose, hopefully that doesn't linger.

Speaker 6 (51:42):
Plus we also know how Jordon feels about Global Life Field.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
God, he loves that pic.

Speaker 7 (51:47):
Well, he might as well have his name on a
hag his jersey there because he punishes anything to do
with that.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Them in that ballpark, there's.

Speaker 7 (51:56):
No doubt it's great. He's got to prevent them from
getting their bats alive. And well they take their World
Series here when they were scoring runs at a pretty
amazing clip.

Speaker 6 (52:05):
They're better, They're better, it's just you get into that bullpen.
That's where things get a little shaky for them.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 7 (52:11):
And Bochie's been one of the best in baseball over
the years of handling pitching staffs to help him win
World Series.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
So see if they can do it again. But this
is good.

Speaker 7 (52:19):
It'd be great to get yourd on back in the lineup,
and then hopefully I'll two base things just a little
twinge and he'll be good to go here shortly.

Speaker 6 (52:25):
Yeah, plus over the weekend too, I mean Christian Walker
with some good at bats that was nice to see,
and the Astros able to take care of the Reds
for two out of those three games.

Speaker 7 (52:35):
Pretty easy to see right now that all the enthusiasm,
the energy, that pain has become the energy of this team.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
He is no questions asked, the.

Speaker 7 (52:50):
The energy, whether it's a take a double, just the
way he runs, whatever, it doesn't matter. He's become table
setter energy. There's all almost feels like he says, heap
more on me, man, I can handle it. Like the
way he's playing, well.

Speaker 6 (53:04):
We saw what happen in twenty two when he goes
that way, So hopefully you're able to carry that over
for the rest of the way this season. Brandon will
get to you at some point. But how about that
time that police got an entire town high Yeah, that
actually happened. We'll talk about it here. It is a
Sean Salisbury show, Sports Talks seven ninety.

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Com putting the logic in illogical. Former pro Sean Salisbury
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Speaker 6 (55:49):
It is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety. Astros
take two out of three over the weekend from the
Reds winning yesterday six to nothing Royals. Next up here
in town, Texans wrapping up Rookie any Camp over the weekend,
and the Eagles in Cowboy's gonna start off the twenty
twenty five NFL regular season this year.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
All right, Sean, As I mentioned, I.

Speaker 6 (56:11):
Mean there was that time that a police force got
an entire town high because of something they did. Well
in this case, we go to Turkey and I'm not
even gonna try to pronounce the province that it's in,
but it was in the city of Lease.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Lice.

Speaker 6 (56:28):
It's spelled like lice, like you know, if you have
that problem, that's not a good thing to have. Re
member as a kid should be lic if ye right? Yes,
So police there had confiscated over twenty tons of weed
between twenty twenty four or twenty twenty three and twenty
twenty four, and they decided to go ahead, and you know,

(56:48):
have a this is what happens if you deal or
you're caught with it or anything like that in this town.
If we catch it, well, this is what we're gonna
do with your product. And they decided to put it
right there in town on square and light it all up.
The only problem is the entire town got high from
the control burn.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
That it was happy times.

Speaker 7 (57:11):
Restaurants were thriving that night and that weekend that week.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
I don't know if they have Dorito's there, but if they.

Speaker 7 (57:17):
Doving thriving restaurants, you helped the economy.

Speaker 6 (57:21):
That's well you did, you would think. But apparently this
is one of the quotes. Our children got sick. We
are constantly going to the hospital because I mean, it's
one of those and some people some people dabble, some people,
you know, it's it's kind of their daily occurrence of
you know, of of hey, you know, this is a
way that I kind of get myself right. And do

(57:42):
you know, I'm not here to judge. I'm not here
to say go for it. Don't you know any of
those things if fits kind of what helps you. It's
kind of like me, you know, Mother's Day again. You know,
I use the nicotine pouches. My mom will still oh,
that's so bad for you. I'm like mom, thirty nine
years old. I think if I want to do it,
and it's also too I've said, you know, I'm a
lot more calm when I use these things. So why

(58:04):
don't why don't we just keep a good thing going here?

Speaker 1 (58:06):
All right?

Speaker 7 (58:07):
Why don't don't Why don't you just why don't you
just let me be me on this? You're telling your
mind to roll up off, Just roll up off. He'll
let you do your thing.

Speaker 6 (58:15):
You know, I appreciate you looking out, but you know
I always love that with with certain things. You know, people,
oh that's so bad for you. I'm like, well, I'm
enjoying it.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Thanks for looking out.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
The weed thing. So I'm sure those kids are gonna
be fine. Yeah, I was gonna say, sleep it off.

Speaker 7 (58:31):
The adults probably like, hey, could we burn some more
of that in the town square?

Speaker 1 (58:35):
You know what I'm said?

Speaker 7 (58:36):
Yeah, I hey man, Yeah, they just went by protocol.
They do what they do and it was a different
aroma in that town one day. So it'll make for
a good story. See that's the thing too, make for
a good story. This is gonna make me sound square.
The smell of it is always kind of because it
smells like a skunk. So I mean, like that's that.

(58:58):
That's the old like you know, you're at a you
had a concert. Oh hey there's a skunk around here.
Who knew?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Yeah, it's.

Speaker 7 (59:07):
That is a I don't consider it a bad smell,
but you know, the smell. Even if you don't know
the smell, it's just it's I'm not a I'm not
a smoke guy. Sure anyway, the smoke part of it, yeah,
that's it. You're not inhaling them, you know smoke.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
I'm just.

Speaker 7 (59:27):
They told us right, even when it comes to you know,
you get a little th h C. There's other ways
to take it via smoke. Right, if you got to
you know, knees bothering you and you want to sleep, well,
well I got some delta k I from smell tap,
I can see there you go. So there you go,
triple e. Yeah, report back to me, tell me what

(59:47):
you thought. Feel pretty good about it? What a teammate,
I have you go there, you go see safer all
that stuff. But hey, in that town, the town's where
the town hall, whatever it is you burned it, it's fine.
Everything that'll be okay. Somebody will give a frivolous lawsuit, though.

(01:00:07):
There'll be somebody in a town who's complaining their kids
now addicted to weed because they smelt it after they
burnt it in the middle of town. Somebody will well,
I mean somebody will. It's It's not America. I mean,
that's kind of a pastime for us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Where was this at? This was in lice or lease?
Uh turn, that's right.

Speaker 7 (01:00:24):
There, you go there, you go, well hopefully, well, I
don't even know what their weed laws army. Can you
get like you're can you get to have to go
to a guillotine if you get cut smoking a joint there?
I have no idea if are they you know, pretty
free about it? I don't either. Yeah, but even here,
somebody if they did it in you know, in the
town hall here, somebody would complain, right.

Speaker 6 (01:00:43):
Yeah, I mean i'd probably you know, if if it's
a you know, if you've got a town hall like that,
I've got to believe You've probably got some area of
land you can go to and be like, just take
it right, Hey, buddy, you know, we burn it out here,
we'll give you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
We'll give you a.

Speaker 6 (01:00:56):
Couple extra bucks for this. But you mind if we
burn it out here.

Speaker 7 (01:00:59):
Burn it out here, don't have to pay any uh
your property towner, whatever it is. We're gonna cut you
some flock.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
How many times you need to burn? Would you like to?
That's exactly what you give me, that you're you're welcome
to burn anytime you want.

Speaker 7 (01:01:11):
Yeah, because, like I said, depending on Turkey's laws, I
wonder how like harsh they are with it. But obviously
if it's in that town, that this is a normal occurrence,
not with the weed, but with you know, taking away
what's negative and burning it in the middle of town.
And they didn't they didn't waive her. So, like I said,
it was the food, the food part of that town.

(01:01:33):
Those folks will thank them.

Speaker 6 (01:01:35):
According to one of the reports, it led to five
days of drifting, smoke, stoned citizens, and total chaos.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
I would think that's chaos.

Speaker 7 (01:01:44):
I think that you're probably having a relaxed, mellow time
in your life.

Speaker 6 (01:01:48):
I mean, you try to think so although I mean
there are like different strains of it.

Speaker 7 (01:01:53):
Yeah, there's those people who think that are like, uh, panicked,
and like, yeah, they go through the paranoid. Is could
be because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they're out who hasn't
been there, right, But I would yeah, I would imagine
it was a paranoid town at times for people that
aren't like, what's this feeling I'm having, what's this feeling? Well,
it's it's a little different, I would imagine, but the paranoid.

(01:02:15):
But I can't imagine it was overly violent. You with
chaos always mean violent. You would think not.

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
And that's actually a good point by you, because I
got this story from Barstool and they were pointing out, uh,
just numerous different types of chaos there in Turkey, and
most of them are parliamentary fights, like actual like big
time brawls happening as part of their government. Oh hey,
I don't like this. Oh yeah, well here's the right hook.

Speaker 7 (01:02:42):
So the government guys are thrown down because they got
a little whiff of the weed in town and now
it's going to make them. It could have helped them, yeah,
you could have settled them down a little you'd think
that maybe they'd be creative and then they'd get to
the negotiating table and fix whatever it needs to say.
Hey man, I don't like yeah, you know what, I
I don't like your position on man all right, I
don't I mean, do you I don't understand why there'd

(01:03:06):
be violence. I just feel like you'd say, let's work
through this. Creative juices are flowing right. Kind of reminds
you of your friend when you're younger, Like you know,
if like you're not that you know that.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
So that's the word of the straight. But if you're
urgent with something like hey man, we gotta do this.
Oh yeah, cool man.

Speaker 7 (01:03:22):
Yeah, if you're an urgent and you got a buddy
who's an enthusiast, because I'm not, and you get a
buddy who's an enthusiast, like it's a regular occurrent. You
know that he wakes up in the morning before he
brushes his teeth, he hits, he hits a big bongload
or one hit or quitter. Oh yeah, no question. And
I have a lot of those buddies. But yeah, if
you're urgent or in a hurry, that ain't it. If

(01:03:45):
you're if you are in a hurry. Don't go to
the guy who is a an enthusiast and that he
wakes up, bakes and gets his day going, because you'll
be late.

Speaker 6 (01:03:55):
You will be late. We were leaving to go play golf, and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
There you go, you guys say the golf course is
one of them.

Speaker 6 (01:04:02):
We're leaving his house and he's like, oh hey, guys, hey,
give me a second in the other room.

Speaker 7 (01:04:05):
You here, probably that fire that way, all right.

Speaker 6 (01:04:10):
And as he's walking out, I go in the house. Huh, oh,
good for you.

Speaker 7 (01:04:14):
And that'll be the guy who never gets frustrated by
a bad SHOT's it. He'll just laugh and have a
good time. And you have the sunglasses on the entire time.
He'll just have a good time. Yeah, yeah, fair enough.
You got you folks in Turkey. Take care of your business. Yeah,
everything's going to be okay. And next time they're in
lease or lice Turkey. You want to do a controlled burn,

(01:04:35):
maybe take it outside of town a.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Little bit, a couple of miles outside of there's some
open field. The cows. The cows can feel it.

Speaker 7 (01:04:41):
Like I said, what do they call when they you know,
when you burn property and stuff, you know, controlled burn
control burn. Yeah, you could probably do the same thing,
and those who want to watch and hang around turn
it into a concert hall, sat right out there and
observe the fire that's being burnt. If and if you
want to relax and fall asleep right by it, I'm
sure you will after.

Speaker 6 (01:04:59):
I don't know if they have like town sheriffs over there,
but then the sheriff that's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Why is the grateful dead here on this exactly?

Speaker 7 (01:05:07):
Hey, a lot of rockers rolling through our to out
here in Lease, Turkey.

Speaker 6 (01:05:11):
Hey man, we just wanted to come over here and
start playing Casey Jones.

Speaker 7 (01:05:15):
Yeah, a waterhouse severe, I mean in regular weed laws
in Turkey, you know, something like you'll do it in
some countries here and you're in trouma. I wonder what
Turkey's laws are on that. But if it's a controlled
thing where the government's involved. But I wonder if it
was a somebody got caught with all that weed, how
that how they'd respond to that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
You know, they probably do.

Speaker 6 (01:05:38):
They'd probably do that before they surrendered themselves over Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Yeah, there's no diet. You want to get you one?
You either you're either flush or smoke it. Right.

Speaker 7 (01:05:46):
One of the two, Karen, that's all we had, right,
that's exactly right.

Speaker 6 (01:05:52):
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The Sewn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 6 (01:08:09):
We always know that Brandon wants to hop aboard, and
we'll give him that chance right here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Brandon, Good morning man. How you doing?

Speaker 14 (01:08:15):
Good morning? Dan? Did I heard you on the video
on the Saturday?

Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
I was not on on Saturday? Well no, actually no
that's not true, Brandon. I was did preimposed but yeah, yeah,
yeah I was. I'm sorry hamster was off the wheel?

Speaker 14 (01:08:31):
Hey how about how about the how about Bronco tend
to strikeout?

Speaker 11 (01:08:38):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
He was awesome, wasn't he?

Speaker 14 (01:08:42):
I was watching on the Space Network.

Speaker 6 (01:08:45):
There you go, hanging out with TK Blummer and Julia.
I like your style. Yep, awesome. You know, I mean
you got that? You got u janer Diez three run, Homer,
Christian Walker two run single with the bases.

Speaker 14 (01:09:00):
Loadeds you missed spotting their Dias home run?

Speaker 6 (01:09:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, that was that was pretty funny, wasn't
that they had Joe a spot on headset at the time,
and as soon as Diaz Sean hit it, you heard
him go go and sure enough it went there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
You go, very nice money, Sean.

Speaker 14 (01:09:22):
How are you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
I'm doing very well. How are you, buddy?

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
I'm doing okay, good good man.

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
But I mean overall, Brandon, they take two out of three,
still got the Royals coming into town and then they
go out on the road, so we need we need
to have a good next three days to send them
out on a high note.

Speaker 14 (01:09:39):
Yeah, hey, we're playing the Rangers, playing the Rangers later
in the week.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:09:44):
You get the Royals first though, uh here at home,
and then get the Rays on the road, and then
you come back home to finish up these seventeen games
in seventeen days.

Speaker 14 (01:09:55):
It's the playoffs today. Who are we gonna yet? Are playing?

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
Who would the Astros get? I'd have to look that up.
I mean, you know, there's still a lot of baseball
have to be played.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Yeah, there we go, all right, Brandon. Good to hear
from you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
We'll catch up with you tomorrow. I'm sure I see man.

Speaker 6 (01:10:20):
Yeah, I mean, as mentioned earlier, the Astros now two
games out of first place. Yeah, the Mariners taking it
on the chin to the Blue Jays over the weekend.
I think the Jay's beat him yesterday like nine to one.
So I mean you start getting them faltering a little
bit if you're able to continue playing some good baseball.
And look, I've said it numerous times, Memorial Day is

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what coming up two weeks from today.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
I think.

Speaker 6 (01:10:43):
So once you hit Memorial Day, that's when you can
start looking at the standings and saying, all right, maybe
we'll start we'll start scoreboard watching just a little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:10:52):
That'll get you to about fifty plus games, right somewhere
in there between fifty and sixty as that will be
by time it gets there pushing sixty game. And that's
about when you know who your team is, give or take.
Throughout the season.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
You know, you go in your.

Speaker 7 (01:11:07):
Runs and the rest of it, but the identity of
your team, and I think that we all agree with that.
I got a message from a buddy of mine who's
in a police officer, and somebody must have lost a
lot of money on a bet, because do you realize
the police are sitting on mccullor's house twenty four to seven.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Now, once you think about that.

Speaker 7 (01:11:30):
Then we got to take because of these idiots out
there that they want to threaten somebody in their family's life,
that they obviously the police force and all I have
to take it serious. And they're sitting on a guy's
house twenty four to seven to watch and make sure
that everything's okay. That's how pathetic somebody is to make
a death threat on their family. So if it was

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just if this was over a game, bet better, if
you didn't bet better or quit betting, okay, and put
it all in. But whatever it is, man, the fact
that they take it serious enough to we're just sitting
on his house twenty four seven, that's it. That that's
not the way he's supposed to wake up to send
his kids to school today.

Speaker 6 (01:12:09):
Well, I mean it goes even a step further. And
one of the things he talked about after the game
was We're gonna have to go out of town. I'm
gonna have to be away from home, So do I
have to worry about them when when I'm not able
to be there too. I mean kind of leads into LA.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Watching it twenty four to seven.

Speaker 7 (01:12:26):
I would imagine until they find out what was going on,
they're gonna have to watch twenty four seven when he's
on the road.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
It's just despicable, is what it is.

Speaker 7 (01:12:35):
Thank goodness for our great police and you know police
departments and police forces and first responders everywhere. But you
know you had enough to worry about reh having your
arm and getting your kids to school and doing all
the things and trying to get your third start better
than the second one. Do we got to wake up
and wonder, Hey, man, police are watching them. I hope
my kids are okay on their way to school. I mean,
come on, really, is this what we're doing, Not that

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they're protecting it, the fact that they have to take
it serious and protect it because somebody out there thought
it was pretty funny or more than one person to
put a destpant. I'm sorry, dude, I just I don't
love sports enough to death threat somebody or worried that
much about a loss. I'm just sorry. I just don't
And I love and I'm a football there's a sports junkie,

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but not that much. It doesn't matter when when when family.
Family's off limits, man, and so are kids, and death
threats are definitely off limits unless you're just and you
take them serious, and the only way you stop them
you got to hit when when you find out who
did it, you got to take it just as serious
as if a damn well was going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
And that's how you send a message to him. That's
it's it's silly. Now. Was he any good on Saturday? No,
he wasn't.

Speaker 7 (01:13:42):
You can go all you want on the fair part
of the you know, analysis and breaking it down, but
we should be talking about what did he do wrong
and how do we get it fixed and what's his
next step as opposed to hey, how what went?

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:13:55):
But by the way, he's got to worry because cops
are on is you know, got to watch twenty four
to seven in his house? Us I'm idiot out there,
or idiots are making death threats on a guy who
struggled that. I'm quite sure didn't like it any more
than the people who are watching it, and most athletes
I know are much tougher on themselves than anybody else's.

Speaker 6 (01:14:12):
Well, I know we were gonna get to Demiko Ryans
because you know it's one of those that you need
your morale boosted this morning. Well, Demiko Rians can deliver
that for you. But I think we're gonna do that
after we hear from Steve Sparks here at the top
of the hour, sheen, I see you right there. I
know you want to get in on this top conversation,
so we'll do that if you want to join her.
There are seven one three two one two five seven

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ninety against seven one three, two one two five seven ninety.
This is Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
And I had to live.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 6 (01:14:47):
But after the game, that was when the Rockies management said,
h yeah, the guy who's the manager no longer need
you around here anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Did they name an interim manager?

Speaker 7 (01:14:57):
As far as I know, no, because didn't is it
in Colorado?

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Didn't my guy? Was it in Colorado?

Speaker 7 (01:15:06):
Didn't my guy, uh, Clint Hurdle take on the like
help him with the hitting instruction about three weeks ago
after he was on our.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Show, So he'd be good one if they did. Because
he was a consultant.

Speaker 7 (01:15:19):
I think he might possibly have got back into some
on the field stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
That's why I was wondering. I didn't even check over
the weekend.

Speaker 7 (01:15:26):
I know Bud Black, who is a great I saw
last time I saw him was in Scottsdale.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
What an engaging good dude.

Speaker 7 (01:15:32):
But you know, when you're giving up twenty one rounds
and it's tough, that's a that's a that's a tough,
tough gig. When you're going good, you're the hero. It's
a tough place. And you know, because of the way
the ball flies.

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
Warren Schaeffer, who was the team's third base coach, he's
going to be the interim manager until they find somebody.
I mean that that would have been a good move
for him to go to go with Clint. I mean,
who knows. Maybe they asked him and he said, ah,
you know, it is good and.

Speaker 7 (01:15:57):
He made that may have very well happened that h
but interesting, Yeah, Bud Black twenty giving up twenty runs
and struggling will get you in trouble, even if it's
not Bud Black's fault.

Speaker 6 (01:16:07):
Look, I understand that this has thrown out a lot,
but it applies here. It can always be worse, folks,
It can always be worse being a game above five
hundred and two games back in the division right now.

Speaker 7 (01:16:20):
Yeah, you didn't get beat twenty one or nothing to
lose your manager on the weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Do you imagine Astros Twitter if that ever happened to them?

Speaker 7 (01:16:27):
And I'm sitting here thinking, how do you give up
twenty one runs at a baseball game? Delicately, I'm sure,
but three touchdowns and three field goals, Man, that's a
hell of that's a hell that's a hell of a
pitching performance by Colorado that day. What a what a
struggle that was with Padres? Yeah yeah, it was pretty

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good themselves, Yeah, no question about it. But that's still
that's a lot of smirking around inning three when you're like, oh,
this can be one of those days.

Speaker 6 (01:16:57):
Huh, we can start pulling out right, You're still putting
up eight runs in Yeah, look at this?

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
How cool is this? It's fun to be on that
side of it, not the other side.

Speaker 7 (01:17:07):
Maybe not entertaining for Colorado fans, but if you like runs,
you got them, because it'd be twenty one runs no
matter what. You're sitting back with your job like, this
is really happening. We just give up three touchdowns our
pitching staff did. Yeah, Bud Black will be fine. They'll
find somebody. Great ballpark, fun city, but they it's a

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tough place to win consistently. Because pitch. You just can't
keep the ball on the ballpark, man, you just can't. Yeah,
they've had a couple of you're not going to you
gotta have Golla, Raga and Helton and r Ellis Burks
and yeah you go to Luiz, Yeah you got you
gotta have guys like that. Now that you lose twelve
to ten, and every now and then you win fourteen
to twelve, and then you win twelve to four. That's

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that's what that is. And then every now and again
you'll get it. You know, if you can keep the
era what under five, you got a chance there whatever
it is, five six, But yeah, it's a that's a
tough gig to consistently win in Colorado, which was when
Hurdle took him to a World Series, it was like stunning,
just how and to have to win like twenty two

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of twenty four games to get into the playoffs one
of those years as well. Yeah, pretty pretty tough place
to play. But I'm sure hitters love going there because
you can get right in a hurry.

Speaker 6 (01:18:20):
And we saw what he did for Brendan Rodgers and
he does get a hit yesterday, but he's definitely had
his struggles at the plate here in the early going.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Yeah, I hope it turns. I hope that.

Speaker 7 (01:18:30):
You know, it'd be nice to see him and Christian
Walker get into their previous team mode and and if
they're going to get where they want to go, that's
going to have to happen, just depending on how dominant
dyk in.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Park's been nice to Christian Walker.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
She had a nice little weekend and a couple of
he is the bat he is, so you're starting to
see that. So maybe that's uh the on ramp to
getting this thing going this season. Sheena in Shirland wants
to weigh in. Sheena, good morning, A good morning.

Speaker 9 (01:18:59):
I'm just waiting the Lance McCuller situation. I mean, I'm
just sickened by this. I really wanted to be at
the game on Saturday. I went to one of his
Space Cowboys starts, which you know that I think it
was his first start for Space Cowboys. They did really good,
but you know, my daughter had baseball playoffs and birthday

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parties and all this, so just watching it on game
cast and trying to listen to it, he had a
horrible start. I Mean, nobody can deny that he's not
gonna deny that it was a bad start, but Hunter
Brown had a bad start last April. If we had
given up on him, then where would we be now?
There is no way that threats are appropriate here.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
It is sickening.

Speaker 9 (01:19:44):
You think he's going to be a better baseball player
because he threatened his family? What do you anticipate getting
out of this? It doesn't make sense at all. And
the amount that he's done for Houston, for the team,
for the city, I mean, he's got the second lowest
er at minute made Slashdikan of any Astro's picture that

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I've talked to people in the city, that he's done
things personally for through charities, through Make a Wish Foundation,
through different activities. He's an amazing human being. So where
do we get off thinking you're morally superior and that
you can make those types of threats. Have you never
made a mistake at your job? Have you never had

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a bad day? I just I just don't understand it
at all. It's so beyond what is acceptable. And then
how does this make us look? Other fan bases have
already seen them, just calling it Astros fans trash. Oh,
here's the Astro fans again, you know, unexpected. I'm like, no,

(01:20:51):
I think it is unexpected of us. But other fan
bases are, you know, they're just like, well, I can't
expect anything better from those cheaters. Yeah, I mean, it's
just horrible situation all around.

Speaker 7 (01:21:04):
You make a great point, and it's it's despicable and
you are one hundred percent correct. She in a one
hundred percent correct. There's nothing a guy can do on
the field that would warrant.

Speaker 6 (01:21:13):
This well and appreciate the call sheena, I mean for
everything that she just brought up. I mean that's been
the defense that people have been going to rightfully. So,
I mean, this is a guy that his greatest sin,
I guess, if you even want to call it that,
and that might be a little extreme, is that he's
missed a couple of years and that he's got a
high contract. And usually people will default to that if

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somebody doesn't, in their mind, live up to the expectations
of oh, we're paying them, what is he five years?
Eighty five million, so seventeen per Oh you know you're
paying them all this money. He should be better, and
I'm going to let him know that he should be better.
But it's like what we said. I mean, it's not
even about hey, you're a bum, you're terrible, all of
those different types of things you do that that's fine,

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but I know that you wouldn't say it to his face,
to your point, but it's when you start going down
the other roads. I mean, it's kind of like, not
that guy man like that, like, not not what this
guy has meant, and not not what he's done for
this city, not anyone, but especially not him.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
What are we doing here? What are we doing here?

Speaker 7 (01:22:14):
And even if he's not, if it was a one
year guy the Christian Walker waltzed into here and you
didn't like the money he was making, just because he's
not a lifer here, there's nothing that warrants this, Absolutely
nothing that warrants this. So because if there was something
that warranted it, he wouldn't be a member of the team.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Does that makes sense? Sure?

Speaker 7 (01:22:34):
So it just I don't get it. I never will,
And please don't tell me that's just somebody a fan
being passionate.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
No, no, no, that's overboard.

Speaker 7 (01:22:43):
And that's a that's a that's a that's not a
Lansome Colors problem. That's a that's the I don't even know,
if you can call him a fan whatever that is,
that's that's a them problem. And they will get found
out these things always, they will. They will come to fruition.
And I just am trying to figure out what in
the world would make you think, you know what, this

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is a good thing to do. I don't care if
he struggles every game the rest of his career. Here
can't do it for sure, all.

Speaker 6 (01:23:09):
Right, So let's get into just baseball as a whole.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
With the Astro.

Speaker 7 (01:23:13):
We got to guard again because they can't you know
what in truth like when Steve comes on Sparks, Yeah,
the Astros with on an ongoing investigation, you can't. They
can't comment on this. So just so you understand why,
whether it's Steve or somebody else right now, isn't talking that.
They can't. There's not much you can say about it.
It's an ongoing investigation that they take this serious, not
only the Astros, but the police and Major League Baseball

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and the rest of it. So you understand why we
won't be talking about this with Steve Sparks.

Speaker 6 (01:23:40):
Well, the winner is to talk baseball Steve Sparks, that's
right here.

Speaker 7 (01:23:45):
And going forward, what can we expect from Lance the player.
Forget the rest of it. I want to know what
Steve saw on his start. Yeah, not that, not that,
the after effect of a poor start, all that above.
We'll do it right here. It is a Sean Salisbury Show,
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Speaker 7 (01:24:42):
Monday visit at eight o'clock. Got to see it from
a different perspective. Yesterday he worked so hard, little time off,
we got to see it. Steve, welcome in, shout out yesterday.
Let's start where it really matters, uh, Renel Blanco was
really good. I mean you look at Hunter Brown what
Friday and then Blanco on Saturday. Steve, you've been saying
for a couple of years now. Pitching staff will take

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them where they want to go. The rest will fall
into place. You get starts like this from Blanco and
obviously we expected from Hunter Brown on a regular and
then the bullpen does their gig this they will always
hang around until the bats are ready to go.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
With pitching like this, Blanco was sensation they have.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Yeah, Yeah, Blanco was unbelievable. I don't think a lot
of people realize how consistent he was last year. You
know about the no hitter, but he had a better
or The Astros had a better team record when he pitched,
and the Detroit Tigers had when Trek Scuball pitched, who
was the Cy Young Award winner. The Astros were twenty
and nine when Blanco pitched last year. That's how consistent

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he was a keeping them in the game. And he's
just been that type of guy. To have him as
your fourth or fifth starter, to be able to go
out there and do stuff like eleven punchouts. It gets
a pretty good lineup with the Cincinnati Reds, good patient
lineup anyway. I thought was very impressive. And he's been
doing this for a little bit, you know, under fanfare

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a little bit. He's had a couple of clunkers this year,
but I think he's starting to get it rolling pretty good.
We've always talked about his ideal is to throw all
four of his pitches twenty five percent of the time,
so he's unpredictable and that's what he's getting back to.

Speaker 7 (01:26:14):
Hey, Steve, going back to last year when he turned
it around and had such a and at times when
they desperately needed him, he carried them last year. Well,
what's the difference in him last year and this year
than previous. Well, you mentioned those getting all four of
those pitches to where it's it's the versatility and the
diversity of his pitches.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
But there's got to be more to it than that.

Speaker 7 (01:26:33):
What is it what sparked the turnaround for him to
worry became this guy?

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
When I talked to the analytics people with the astros
and I say, why is he so good? Because with
my eyes, each pitch in a vacuum doesn't look to
be that good. They tell me that he tunnels, in
particular his fastball and slider. He tunnels his pitches probably
better than anybody else in the major leagues, which means
to a hitter, his fastball and the slider halfway home

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look identical. So one goes one way, one goes the
other way, and that's very frustrating. So I don't know
how he does it, and I don't know what the
secret is to be unable to tunnel your pitches very well.
But I think in a nutshell, he repeats his delivery
really well. But I think that's the secret sauce, more
than anything else. All this pitches halfway home look the same.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Steve games in.

Speaker 7 (01:27:27):
Are you pleased or at least getting more pleased with
the pitch selection. I'm talking about the hitters, about how
they're the discipline at the plate. Are they getting closer
just from your naked.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Eye, yes, you know, And it always comes back to
the results, you know, and you can you can look
at Brendan Rodgers or somebody like that and say, Okay,
don't change anything because look at these numbers. Your hard
hit rate is the highest on the team. You're gonna
get more love, you're expected batting them. You know, you

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look at these nerdy stats, but they can prove to
a guy that what you're working on is the right
thing to do. So don't change things too quickly. And
I think that's the beauty, you know, of the cameras
and the numbers and all of that is is when
to change things, when to make adjustments, and when not to.
And I think the Astros are kind of getting rewarded

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because we kept talking about, man, they're hitting the ball
right at them. You know, we used to always be
able to say that as a blanket statement, but we
couldn't back it up as well as we could now
with hard hit rate and exit velocity and things like that,
which is helpful. I love that, you know, you can say, hey,
you know, this picture might be getting unlucky right now
because of this, you know, all the soft contact. So

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I think in that regard, this stuff is great for
these guys. And I think it's starting to pay off
with Christian Walker. Of course, he's swinging the bat much better.
Payton has been fantastic, ya, your Diaz has been great, great,
and it's all you know. The theme I think for
all of this, Sean, is that they're picking up the slack.
The Jordan has been out, you know, for eight or

(01:29:04):
nine days now, and the Astros have a ops of
over eight hundred since he's been out, so a lot
like last year with Kyle Tucker when they were fifteen
games about five hundred in his absence. They do a
good job of picking up the slack offensively.

Speaker 7 (01:29:18):
Astro's broadcaster Steve Sparks for his weekly eight o'clock visit
here on Sports Talk seven ninety Sean Salisbury Show, Steve
watching pain you play. I know you rave about him
that it's it's I don't even know by different saying different,
the table set or the energy, it's it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
It's it's a no brainer. He is.

Speaker 7 (01:29:38):
This team's gonna go where he takes him. I understand
the yord, but you get my point. At the top
of the there's an energy about him that's starting to permeate.
And when I want, when he's going good, it feels
like everybody feeds off it. So whatever it is that
he's accepted and decided to take more on and do it,
he's doing it at a high at a high level
right now, on both defense and offense. I'm loving watching

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his Another addition to his game me too.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
You know, he's third in the American League in more,
he's best among all American League shortstops. Here's the thing
for me, I think base running it's kind of like
a book cover to your player, to a player, when
you watch him take secondary leads, you watch him take
extra bases. You watch him hustle down the first base line.

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I think that's almost a window to his baseball soul,
you know, you learn about what he's really about as
a baseball player. Wats cam Smith. By the way, his
base running is impeccable too. That's the book cover to
this player, and I think that means anything, That means everything,
and I think that permeates as you mentioned, you know,

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to the rest of the team. You put him at
the top of the lineup and you watch him spark
the team with this play, and he's just coming into
his own I think he's figured some things out offensively
to allow him to get into a position to let
his talent take over. And we've always seen the twitch.
We know he's got fast hands. In a ninety eight
mile apart our fastball is probably not going to beat him.

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But now I think he's able to relax because of
less movement and less things going on in his stance
and the setup that everything's starting to come into play,
the defense, everything, man, he just practices right.

Speaker 7 (01:31:22):
Right, Steven, you mentioned the book, it'd be pretty easy
to write the ford about what kind of player this
guy is for his book right now, write that that
energy with it. Steve, did you see him? Was there
ever a part of you over these last three years?
It said, that's a natural leadoff hitter, and do you
believe he is that that's where he needs to stay.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Well talking to him after he was one of our
he was a player of the game for us, maybe
the second or third day after he was batting leadoff
right and I just asked him, I said, hey, man,
how do you feel in a postgame interview? How do
you feel at the leadoff spot? Have you done it before?
Because it just clicked in my mind. He looks like
he loves it, right, And he said, Man, I've been

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a lead off hitter my whole life, you know, growing up,
you know, college. So in his mind he's a leadoff hitter,
and in your mind, you're a leadoff hitter. I think
that's where you need to be if you're decent at it.
And I think he loves it. And I think he
relishes the opportunity to put the Astros on the scoreboard
with one swing. But I think he also relishes the

(01:32:23):
opportunity to get an infield hit, which, by the way,
he had thirty one of them last year and that
led the major leagues. I think he can beat in
a lot of different ways and he loves doing that.
I think he's one of those types of players who
likes to show off his talent in front of them
to speed.

Speaker 7 (01:32:39):
Yeah, Steve, I think that he takes I think he's
better when he takes on more. I know some guys
can't say. It feels like, oh, you want me to
be in the lead, Okay, cool a Joe, Oh you
need me a gold glove. Oh I need to be
a table setter with a little bit of power and
run the bases, get from first to third. He's been
I've enjoyed watching played the last three years, no more
than I do now. I mean, this is his energy's

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gone to a new level. Okay, five years from now,
if this assent continues, how or where is the ceiling
for Hunter Brown? What are we going to be saying
about him three, four or five years from now?

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
A sense? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
Yeah, man, what he's been able to do since the
beginning of last year is pretty incredible, you know. And
just to watch his confidence and the way he he's
kind of taken over a leadership role, you know, without
Verlander now in the clubhouse. You know, he voices his
opinion and I think guys look to him and admire

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the way he's been able to turn it around. And
you learn a lot about a guy when there's adversity.
And he was at a pretty low point last year
and we talked about this. I thought he was. I
thought he was on the verge of getting sitting down
to Triple A to try to figure some things out.
But he figured it out on a big stage and
now he's arguably one of the best pitchers in baseball.

(01:33:58):
So where is he going to be in five years?
I think, you know, it's a hard game to stay healthy,
and I'll say that, but you know, if he stays healthy,
I think he's he's going to be looked at it
kind of like Roy Oswalt type, you know. I think
right now he's pitching like Roy did at the peak
of his tenure with the Astros.

Speaker 7 (01:34:17):
Stevieah if if the energy, if if we're talking about
a futures bet and the way that Penya and Brown
are going, if those are the pitchers slash everyday player
aside from all the other players, that the energy is
going to be set in the toughness the Astros windows
is kicked wide open. There's no question about all right, Steve,
we're not talking to I mean, you can't and it
wouldn't be fair anyway. About the mccollors off the field stuff.

(01:34:41):
I don't want to talk anything about that. I would
not put you in that bind anyway. On the field,
which I want to focus on. What'd you see Saturday
with him just coming right out? Anything sent are just
nerves early, Steve. It's a second start trying to figure
it out.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
There's probably nerves, you know, pitching at home for the
first time too. But what I see more than anything
is just a ton of movement on his change up.
I see a ton of movement on his sinker, a
ton of movement. His sweeper breaks almost twenty five inches.
I mean, just a ton of movement, and he spends
it in the ball, just moves so much. So I

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think being able to tighten up some of the movement
on those pitches might help him just to get into
the zone a little earlier and make guys make bad
decisions later on. Right now, I think they're making good
decisions because he's fallen behind in the count. The one
thing I remember most about lance is when he had
a bad game before. I remember talking about this in

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our pregame shows, you know when he was about to
start that next game. He bounces back and makes corrections
faster and better than just about anybody the Astros have
had in the last ten years. So I expect him
to figure it out really quickly. He's smart. His stuff
is still really good. His fastball is not as is

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as boring as it once was, but it still has
great movement. And I think his secondary stuff, especially his
change up, is really really good. And once he starts
getting ahead of the count, he'll get a lot of
chase on those pitches. But you don't get a lot
of chase on pitches that move a lot once you
fall behind. So the key is getting ahead for him.
But I think he's as good as it gets is

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as far as bouncing back from a clunker and pitching
really well for a good extended period of time. Sanshers
are going to be patient, and I don't blame.

Speaker 7 (01:36:30):
Him, Yeah, no question about it. All that hard work
he's put in to get back Steve. Interestingly enough, when
you're behind and you're not throwing those competitive strikes because
of all the movement. It makes it easier for them
to do their thing. I'm just curious, and I know
this sounds odd, but and you said tighten it up,
I think that you could. In fact that we got
to say, hey, dude, you've got great spin. You almost

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got to back off on the spin so they're more
competitive to get ahead in the count. I mean, I
know it's odd to say that at a time when
people want to spin spin spin, but in truth, Steve,
it's almost like we we we got to have him
at eighty five percent of the spin, then one hundred
percent of it, right, I mean, to get ahead, and
the throwerly strikes at least competitive pitches that make people
want to chase.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
It's not out of the strike zone.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
I've told you this a bunch of times when it
looks like guys are kind of nitpicking, you know, early
in the count, right, I think you just got to
set right down the middle of the plate with lance
early in the counts. And as scary as that is
for a pitcher, and it's got to be right. You
don't want to, you don't want to, but his ball
moves so much you just want to allow for as

(01:37:37):
much movement to get over the plate somehow, because the
movement's going to be fine. The stuff right in the
middle of the plate with movement is fine. But if
it moves to the outside corner, were fine. But if
you if you're thinking about the catcher on the outside
corner early in the counts and you missed just a
little bit, then you've got no chance for a guy
to offer at it. So I think the catcher needs

(01:37:57):
to start down the middle early and then starting once
you get ahead, start moving toward the corners later in
the counts.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
Get it.

Speaker 7 (01:38:03):
Yeah, that guy's got that power, draw, got a trust,
you can aim right, and you're still going to hit
it where you want to throw in the middle. With
all that movement, Steve, you still catch part of the play.
At least it starts competitive and then you could start
to dabble outside the strike zone, right Steve, Because you're right,
you're not you're not going to live. You're not going
to live in the middle of the plate. You'd like
to get ahead and then do your thing. But it's odd.
We don't ask a lot of guys to back off spin.

(01:38:25):
But you're exactly right, Steve. It's the only a small game,
small miss move right.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
Right, but his stock is still really electric. I mean,
his fastball doesn't have ninety six right now, and it
might get to close to that later, but it's he
still has plenty. But his other stuff is really good.
It's it's better than most.

Speaker 7 (01:38:47):
Yeah, I anticipate you believe he's going to come out
in this next third start, Steve, and and be a
lot better. Right, as you've mentioned his ability to bounce back.

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
Probably unfair to say that it's going to bounce back
right away, right, You know that would be great if
it does. But I think they're going to be patient,
and I think we're going to see certainly an improvement
for the last game.

Speaker 7 (01:39:05):
He's got a pretty good constitution, doesn't he, Steve. His
constitution to get ready is pretty good, right, I mean
like slidesdale fart.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
Yeah, yeah, well he'll be good.

Speaker 7 (01:39:15):
Yeah, Well heck to what twenty and nineteen at this
stage of the game and a talented Reds team, but
two great pitching performances and get a lance back at
it because you're gonna need him as this goes on.

Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
There is no doubt about it.

Speaker 7 (01:39:26):
And I know we're waiting and Steve real quick any
any laid updates on the timing of Jordon.

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
Do you think we see him this week?

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
Well, I know he's been improving. I know when he
shows up to the ballpark today, if he still feels good, uh,
he's going to swing a bat for the first time.
And I think swinging the bat. Jordon's been one of
the most quick to get into the lineup once he
deems himself ready of anybody that I've seen in a
long time. He doesn't typically need it, you know, to

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go down on rehab to get ready. He can get
ready in the cage quicker than anybody. So that's in
the past. That's where I think it is so to
be able to come off maybe before the Ranger series.
I think the Astros you know, are crossing their fingers
that that might happen. If he comes to the ballpark
and feels good swinging it today, that'd be awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
It'd be great to get him back in.

Speaker 7 (01:40:16):
People are starting to pick up the temple a little
bit and hit that ball hard, which is great news.
And the pitching staff two of the three games was
lights out. Steve, great stuff, brother. We always appreciate you
chiming in and have a good week. And we'll look
forward to next Monday's conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
All right, thanks for having me, Sean.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
Thanks.

Speaker 7 (01:40:31):
That's great, Steve Sparks And he's right, man, you know,
isn't an amazing that, Dan, you got to tell a
guy and man, you got a little two butt spit
aim to the middle of the plate and watch it.
But you know, it's almost like and he's not a knuckleballer,
but you know how like when the Charlie huffs or
Steve himself, when you get to the point you don't
know where it's going to go. Mccullor's got so much
spin it feels like a spinning knuckleball, even though knuckleball

(01:40:53):
is not spinning. Does it makes sense because you don't
know jumping out of the strike zone, but you hope
it starts there and grab some of It's a competitive
pitch to get ahead in the count. But yeah, spin
rate's not going to be a problem for that guy,
and it's a good problem to have. I mean, you
just would like to have the results to go with it.
Sparky still believes that McCullers can get that, and I
do like.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
The fact that Steve, Steve believes that this.

Speaker 7 (01:41:15):
Guy bounces back after a tough performance as good as
anybody so, and he says the stuff's there, And if
the stuff's there and he's still confident, then we should
anticipate that he'll be better next time.

Speaker 6 (01:41:25):
He's got a ton of people written for him to
do exactly that, so we'll see if he can. All right,
a couple of other things that Sparky had mentioned there
during y'all's conversation want to get into. And then eight
point thirty is when we'll do the dmico ryans firing
us up by talking to his own guys.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
We'll do all that right here.

Speaker 6 (01:41:41):
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Speaker 6 (01:41:56):
You know, Sean, from what we were just talking about,
you know, I mean we touched on a little bit
at the end of the segment about Lance mccullor's and
just what Steve's seeing from him, and I mean it's
one of the things that we saw in that start
at the beginning was the three run homer. That's one thing.
The hit by pitch. That's another. Walks are a thing
with lance, just for the swing and miss that he's

(01:42:17):
got and sometimes he's gonna miss, he's gonna miss spots
and it's gonna be called a ball and that gets
guys on base. And that's been something that he's kind
of battled through all throughout.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
His career, no doubt.

Speaker 7 (01:42:28):
And it's been you know, oh Man, eight strikeouts, four walks,
seven strikeouts, five walks, three walks. I mean, if he
doesn't walk anybody, it's a And that goes back to
I think what Steve's saying about all the movement that
you know, when you get behind in the count, and
then with all that movement, the ball jumping out of
his strikes on it also makes an upire's job easier.

(01:42:50):
Does that make sense? So it kind of fits with
what Steve's saying. Walks controlled all that spin and rarely
do you tell a guy, hey Man, back off the spin.
You know, these guys are begging for it when they come.
You know, they come here, you get.

Speaker 1 (01:43:02):
More spin rate and the rest of it.

Speaker 14 (01:43:04):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
To me, it's.

Speaker 7 (01:43:08):
It's impressive that he can pull off all that spin,
but it also it stands that you're going to miss
the strike zone. It's the typical sniper aim small miss small. Unfortunately,
if you have big misses, you're going to put some
people on base because you're going to get behind the
count as well, and then prevent them from chasing after
the non competitive strikes. Because when he's on and the
balls around strike zone, did the movement on it is

(01:43:30):
what he say, twenty five twenty six inches on the sweeper.
That's a lot of real estate to cover, Buddy, that's
a big that's a big old you know, it's not
a slider, the old slide piece, but we named it
the sweeper now because it's on the same plane.

Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:43:44):
So, but he's he's got all that stuff and I
would expect that that with that movement, walks are probably
always going to be something. If he wants that type
of movement with that spin, that are going to be
a problem for him. But his long as the ball
stays in the ballpark, he gets ahead and combats that
with you know, rolling people over into double plays and

(01:44:05):
getting people out on a lot of swing and miss
you can make up for that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
I don't think he's ever going.

Speaker 7 (01:44:10):
To be a ten and one guy where you know
you're getting ten strikeouts per nine innings or eight strikeouts
and no walks. That's just not going to be his
mo because of all the movement and the the the
bandwidth the movement he has on his pitches.

Speaker 6 (01:44:24):
Well, Hunter Brown is I mean you heard Sparky compare
him to when Royal's wall was going as good as
he comparison nobody. Yeah, you'll take that, absolutely will. So
we'll get Hunter Brown here in the next few days.
Back on the mound. Ryan Gusso going to go tonight
against believe it's boobage for the Royals.

Speaker 1 (01:44:43):
Do you think there's a chance that he goes for
the gusto? I hope.

Speaker 10 (01:44:47):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
Have you ever said that and you're like, hey, man,
just go for the gusto? Probably not.

Speaker 6 (01:44:52):
You've never usually frad out your life. I'm going to
go ahead and take probably out of the equation. No,
I have not, have you Tripoli, I have I've said that.
I'll take you what dude, I am going You're turning
me loose. I'm going for the Gusta. Now I've probably
said with gusto, but I don't even know that I've
said that either.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
Going at it with gust You get my point? Yeah,
I do.

Speaker 7 (01:45:11):
Yeah, I think I've used it more than once in
my life. I'm just wondering if it was a if
it was a lean in by you, or it's just like, no,
it's really not so the dad joke really doesn't work.

Speaker 6 (01:45:20):
No, I'd probably have to try. I'd have to try
hard for it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
I would.

Speaker 6 (01:45:24):
Yeah, Yeah, I just don't. I don't think top of
mine that's what I would throw out there with them.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
So what is going for the Gusto in your mind?
For him? Perfect? I could go for the goods?

Speaker 7 (01:45:35):
You want to hit the Google machine real quick while
we're on here, before you go to brick you want
to hit it?

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
Sure, what's what?

Speaker 7 (01:45:40):
What's the exact phrase of Gusto and just see what
it says. Let's see Gusto. Now, I'm getting a bunch
of ads for for Gusto, enjoyment or vigor in doing something,
zest style of artistic execution.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
And what position is he?

Speaker 7 (01:46:02):
He's a pitcher, thank you style artistry execution. So maybe
you'll use it in the future.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
Dan, Maybe I will. Okay, maybe I will. Let's just
go for the Gusta You ready?

Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
You threw it in there. There you go.

Speaker 7 (01:46:15):
You know, the idea is now now in my brain.
I'm just trying to keep it real on the show, Dan,
that's all you do. I'm just trying to keep it
as real as we can.

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
Okay, you're a real one, remember I do that out there.
You know you're a real one. He's one of us,
just right. That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:46:29):
That's it, all right. So who's ready to get fired
up by Tamiko Ryans?

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
I mean more football to start, That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:46:36):
Morale around here does not need to be boosted, but
maybe for some you need to have your morale boost it.

Speaker 7 (01:46:41):
Maybe you'll do extra, right, I like extra I like
it on a fday, we fire people up.

Speaker 6 (01:46:46):
That's what Demiko Ryans is doing right here, Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 7 (01:46:49):
Well, I'm going to tell you why after one of
those games, or even if there's no game at the
ballpark at the NRG and especially Toyota Center, and there's
none going on there right now at the ballpark.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
There is at dyke In Park.

Speaker 7 (01:47:01):
But you don't need a reason to go to J
bar M Barbecue other than you like great food and
great customer service. How many of you have gone over
there on the weekend, sat out there, brought your dog
out and had some little breakfast tacos or grab some
of those drink or food specials that's set out in
the back. Man yesterday was a phenomenal day. Or when
the sun starts to set and say I'm go to

(01:47:21):
have me some barbecue and some of the great sides. Ever,
well you got it. You get the Hall of Fame menu.
You can order with Joe of Spot Orders, you can
order with you know, with Kelvin Sampson or Clyde Drexer.
They got all that Hall of Fame menu, and the
menu is Hall of Fame ish great food. Whether I
don't care if it's cheddarsauce, it's a jalapeno, I don't
care if it's the sides and the potatoes, alb macacheese.

(01:47:43):
They got everything you want. So you do not have
to have an event nearby to want to go to
jbar M Barbecue. There is no reservations needed. It's a
twenty two oh one Leland. People are coming from far
and wide to go there. It is the best barbecue
and customer service in this state. So traveling somewhere else
for barbecue, stop going into Jbarn Barbecue, whether it's the

(01:48:05):
weekend or during the week and realizing, man, it's not
only efficient, the food's off the charts. And if you're
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Speaker 2 (01:48:29):
We're the Sean Salisbury Show continued, people leaving the NFL
network to go over to Bristol.

Speaker 1 (01:48:37):
Interesting what a comeback for Ozon? Huh?

Speaker 7 (01:48:40):
For sure is he's going to U When I say comeback,
He's had a great crazy I ever had to come,
but to come back to that place where he started
and his partner and sports center Stu Scott and him
were a great team. Yes, they'll throw him onto more
sports centers. And I know he's a huge baseball fan
as well. I'm just curious where, uh you know, on

(01:49:02):
the football coverage too, because you know Rich loves doing that.
What what his number? They're going to have him do
an NFL Live or are they going to do Countdown
what's what would you say.

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
Is radio show?

Speaker 6 (01:49:13):
Yeah, So what I'm reading is UH is returning to
the network as part of its forthcoming direct to consumer offering,
So I guess like more of their streaming stuff, and
also to another thing I saw Marshaun Uh I think
it was or No, the Athletic, similar to the Pat
McAfee show. Eisen's program will be licensed by ESPN, meaning
he is expected to maintain ownership and editorial control. So

(01:49:36):
you know, he's got the Rich Eisen Show too, So
I think, you know, that's something else that they're going
to add, and I would probably guess that they will
have him doing most of their in studio stuff that
if I'm not mistaken, I think Laura Rutledge has kind
of taken over as like where Sam Ponder was doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
She's doing a lot of it right for her.

Speaker 6 (01:49:55):
So yeah, so they'll have that, and then of course,
you know, as part of the streaming, you've also got
UH what what did what was boomers show that he
did with Tom Jackson NFL Primetime?

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
That's right, yeah, NFL prime Time. Yeah, this is UH.

Speaker 7 (01:50:09):
This is awesome for UH if it makes Rich and
his family happy to move back home.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
I think that they're moved back to where he started.
I think that's great.

Speaker 7 (01:50:16):
He'll uh he was a legend there and I hope
it works out and that it makes him happy because
that's where he started this whole thing, and and uh,
I'm sure ESPN made it quite nice for him to
come back.

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
So he's really good at his job.

Speaker 6 (01:50:29):
I was gonna say, usually, if you're making a move
career wise like that, it's worth your while. So we'll
be seeing rich Eisen back on the four letter, all right,
Demiko Ryans. Over the weekend, Texans had their rookie mini
camp and the rookies were there, so you know, it's
one of those Hey, you're here to fight for a job.
Some of the higher draft picks. Jaden Higgins, you know,

(01:50:50):
Jalen Nole, you know guys like that, which, by the way,
found that out over the weekend. It's not Noel, It's
Nole is how you say his name. But with the
rookies going through and guys trying to earn jobs, Dmiko
Ryans had a message for the guys, at least them
in person. But gotta believe this is gonna be the
message to the rest of the team.

Speaker 1 (01:51:10):
Why were you drafted?

Speaker 15 (01:51:11):
Obviously someone saw something good in you in college, So
continue to be who you've been, Like, don't get to
the NFL and try to you know, just I will
always tell you, guys, don't try to make yourself just
lower than Evans. When I'm looking up to the events.
Come in and if you were the man in college,
be the man here and do it in the right way,

(01:51:32):
in a humble way. But we drafted these guys for
a reason, like we're not waiting on guys three years
down the road.

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
We drafted guys.

Speaker 15 (01:51:40):
My message up and we drafted them for them to
help us out right now. So understand the sense of urgency.
Congratulations you're here as a rookie. But now what like
you have to come in You have to help us
right win games.

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
That's what it's about.

Speaker 6 (01:51:53):
So Sean all the time, we always look for underlying messages.
And that's why I said that's to the rest of
the team is I have to be leave. The first
meeting that the team has in training camp this year
is going to be the division is not enough. We're
no longer in the business of just winning the AFC South.
That should be a given. We should be able to
do that making it to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
Not enough.

Speaker 6 (01:52:14):
We've gotten there, we've proven we can win on wildcard weekend.
We have not proven that we can win on the
following weekend. So all of these things of we're done
doing the penalties, We're done doing the things that caused
us to lose games last year. Now is the time
to go to Kansas City and beat Kansas City. Go
to Buffalo, beat them, same deal with the Ravens. All

(01:52:35):
the above is to be able to take the next
step as an organization. And that's the first message that
you have to these guys.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
To me, it's been.

Speaker 7 (01:52:45):
An undisciplined football team in certain cases, not because we're
undisciplined at the wrong time. We're that one pre snap
penalty cause you five yards, you get twelve. Now it's
third and three or fourth and three, you got a
punt or kick a field goal. The discipline part of
it of getting people in the building who not only
willing to work. We know that and some of the

(01:53:07):
guys that aren't here worked as well. But you just
can't continue to beat yourself because when you load up
the talent on the squad defensively, are they taking a
back seat to very many teams in this league. Absolutely not. Now,
let's look at the other side. The offensive line's been
a problem. Can they get that fixed? And we don't
know the answers of its fixed yet. We just don't

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how it's going to all come together with continuity and
the new guys. And while he was an assistant, now
you're the guy calling the shots as the O line coach.
But also and how it's going to mix in with
a new offensive coordinator. But more importantly, look at the talent. Quarterbacks,
really good, running backs, really good. Your number one receiver
is really good. Your number two receiver, Christian Kirk's been

(01:53:50):
really successful in the league. You're hoping you've added two
or three more guys that can elevate that. On the
offensive lines, it's still the biggest question on the team.
You know, you can ca ticket, you know you can
punt it. You've got a front seven that's active and
they can get after the passer and they and they're
getting better at it. And you got it back into
the secondary that is, in my opinion, the best young

(01:54:11):
secondary in all of football. So what then, so you say, well,
why more success? More success is when you go to
Kansas City or you're playing a team like that, you
can't have three or four penalties and two sacks and
critical situations. That is the difference. And it's only about
eight or ten places. It'll be the difference between them
moving to another level or them being stuck here because

(01:54:33):
the talent's not in question, it's when it's applied and
how to do it. Keep your quarterback upright and not
beat yourself. You cannot beat Buffalo, Baltimore, Kansas City teams
like that continuously and consistently by putting yourself in a
bind and making those self inflicted mistakes that quite frankly,
have hampered this team at times. And they're addressing the

(01:54:57):
things like you had mentioned you talk about of getting
it done right, of making sure we're doing it right
and getting to that because just getting to the playoffs
isn't good enough. You're exactly right now. Would some people say, well,
that's far fetch you guys haven't sniffed a Super Bowl. Okay,
I get it, But in their mind, he said, if
you're a rookie, don't act like one, come and play
like a dog like you were.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
Basically you were that man. You don't have to.

Speaker 7 (01:55:19):
You don't have to bend need and the veteran be
respectful to coming and challenge it. And it's the same
thing with the way they approach the game. We don't
have to continue to see be that team that people
look at and say, oh, they'll eventually have self inflicted mistakes,
it'll cost them. If they can eliminate those just by
two or three a game, you're looking at a whole
different ballgame. And the offensive line is where it's going

(01:55:41):
to start for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:55:41):
And I think there's another message that we can you know,
continue talking about too, that he has for his team.
That's I mean, I think it would lead you to
believe that they've learned some lessons from last year. So
we'll do that here if you want to weigh in
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Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
Let's go, this is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (01:56:09):
We're gonna have to wait until Wednesday night to figure
out when and where the Texans start off their twenty
twenty five season.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
But Sean, it just it feels.

Speaker 6 (01:56:17):
Like, you know, even before the full team gets back
together for OTA's which I think are coming up here
in a couple of weeks, that there is a different
tenor where last year it was the high hopes of
now we've got Stefan Diggs and we've got you know,
c J. Stroud going into a second year. Look how
good that offense was his rookie season. It's gonna be

(01:56:38):
even better. And you've got Joe Mixon now as well.
Where you're looking at this team thinking, yeah, this is
a team that's got everything in place to be able
to make a run at this thing in twenty twenty five,
and I mean, there were some good things, but for
the most part, it was pretty much the same as
the year before. And when you accomplished something already the
following year like it's kind of like in in college sports,

(01:57:01):
a guy has a really good freshman season and then
they have pretty much the same season the following year,
and people, oh, the sophomore jinks, you know that he
wasn't able to you know, replicate the success. Well, no,
he actually did, as a matter of fact, It's just
you had higher standards for them after they just came
out the gates doing what they just did.

Speaker 7 (01:57:19):
What's your biggest concern about them? In me one going
in that if they handle fill in the sense, if
they handled this, they'll take another step.

Speaker 6 (01:57:27):
Oh it's easy because I did a radio hit on
Friday and I said, it's the offensive line that's the
key that unlocks everything. If that group is improved and
that group is good, then that's going to unlock the
rest of this team.

Speaker 7 (01:57:39):
If that group is healthy and good and better than
they've been the last two years, the team will will
obviously win the division. But we'll get past the first
round of these playoffs. When I say the first round
about outside the wildcard, right, the division round, right, that
they and health, well, then that goes for every team.
Your stars got to stay healthy. But if the offensive okay,

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now find me a glaring weakness. If the offensive line
is right, now, the question is I need more production
from the tight end position too.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
I absolutely have to.

Speaker 7 (01:58:11):
I have to have it with his hand in the
dirt where they're in the run game, and I got
to have whoever it is, and I got to have
more production from the passing game at that tight end position.
You just do, and then Christian Kirk's got to become
a really lights out number two. And then you've got
to hope that the people that have been here elevate.
And then a couple of these draft picks. And who's

(01:58:32):
the kid the returner that they got early in the
off season, Yeah, Barrios, who's got to be able to
do both mix in some catches but also give you
some electric stuff in the return game as well. But
to me, defenses, the defense will show up and they
will be on time regularly. Get rid of this self
inflicted problems, those unforced airs that you bring on yourself.

(01:58:56):
And if the offensive line can elevate and be more physical,
you're looking at a different team and they'll start to
talk about them like they did the rookieyear when they said,
oh my gosh, this team's formidable now.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
And they were last year.

Speaker 7 (01:59:10):
They won the division still, but it just looked a
little different offensively, and we like teams that look pretty offensive.

Speaker 1 (01:59:16):
You know, their defense gets elevated.

Speaker 7 (01:59:18):
If the offense took a little bit of a step
back and so we automatically think the team's good. Well,
they still won the division. So shoring up the offensive
line mix it will be better. The run game will
be better. And now and a coordinator that doesn't play
not to lose.

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
You've got to play to attack.

Speaker 7 (01:59:36):
And when like you're going to be the number one offense,
I would go in saying we're gonna be the number
one offense in the league, and with that defense, it's
a bonus. If you're the number three offense in the league,
you're gonna be just fine. So the offense in that
offensive line has to be healthy, but has to keep
the quarterback up right. If they are, you will probably
see the best season you've seen from this team in

(01:59:57):
the last three years. And that's saying something because they
won back to back what division titles again.

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
See you go.

Speaker 6 (02:00:03):
You mentioned Christian Kirk. I think part of what Tamiko
said that you know SoundBite we just played in the
last segment, he's talking to Jayden Higgins. Hey, we just
broke you off. We just gave you that guaranteed deal.
Go play like it. Go be the number two guy
on the seam. Hell, you know what, challenge the number
one guy?

Speaker 1 (02:00:19):
Why not?

Speaker 7 (02:00:21):
Well, why wouldn't you You got paid guaranteed. They hold
you in obviously very high regard. So let's line up
with three or four and go get it. Done and
let that beast in the backfield take care of his business.
Get him twenty four to thirty touches a game. More
in the pass game from him. I'd like to have
him involved more in the passing game out he can block.

(02:00:42):
He's a three down back, and then the offensive line
has to whatever you mix and match to get the
right group. There's got to be continuity there every bit
as much as there is with.

Speaker 1 (02:00:53):
A quarterback wide receiver.

Speaker 7 (02:00:54):
That has to be consistent or they will find themselves
scrambling around again trying to hang in there where the
defense has to pitch. I mean, there's too much offensive
firepower personnel wise not to allow your quarterback on offense
to actually reach that. And Stroud took a step back.
You saw him. His head was in some different places
last year, because I mean, when you're getting hit all

(02:01:16):
the time, it's only natural that things start to speed
up in your mind. Hopefully he'll take another deep breath
and settle back in here in year three, because a
monster year this year. And wait till you hear the
money that they're going to talk about for him.

Speaker 6 (02:01:28):
Oh this time next year, we're on extension watch because
they're not going to allow it to get the training camp.

Speaker 7 (02:01:34):
And I can tell you as we sit here now,
if he plays like he did as a rookie and
even expands that, which he should, but the year three,
it's another moving year for him. If they're upright and
he plays like that, he'll blow by sixty million a year.
Just so you understand where we're headed, and it's going
to happen. He's a better player right now than Prescott is.

(02:01:56):
Not the Dack's not a good player. He's a better
player than two is. He's overall talent. Although the production
by brock perty has been good. If you just said,
let me line in both up who you take and
first you're taking Stroud, right, I want you to think
about that for a minute. An average season is gonna
get him up. It's going to get to get him
a fifty million dollar contract this year. And I'm talking

(02:02:16):
about when it's time for his thing, he goes and
lights it up. Not that that's the first thing on
his mind, but if the if he plays great, this
team's going to win, which will mean the offensive line's
playing better. It's a it's a it's a definite domino effect,
there's no question. But you're looking at if this assent
and he his game gets better and he's back to
doing that thing, and he's a third year stud You're

(02:02:37):
you're you're looking at when they do sign him, when
they're when they can, You're you're looking at sixty five
million a year.

Speaker 1 (02:02:44):
That's where we're headed. Still not fired up for the
football season yet, not yet.

Speaker 7 (02:02:48):
I'm fired up, you know what I'm I love the
anticipat I love the journey of getting to it. Right now,
I do it sounds cheap, the journey I am definitely
not ready to say.

Speaker 1 (02:02:56):
And we're locked down. We're doing it two days right now.

Speaker 7 (02:02:58):
We're talking about No, I'm too heavy into these Stanley
Cup playoffs, and I'm enjoying watching guys like Gilgis, Alexander
and these young some of these guys play some cool
ass basketball. And I'm curious to see we're Indiana and
what's going to happen in these series, whether it's our
teams or you know what I'm saying, just kind of
there's a curiosity that's got me going on. Although the

(02:03:20):
ratings they're not going to go crazy for right now,
depending on who makes it. They'd love Golden State you
know they want, you know, we the Knicks of the Celtics.
But the hockey finals and baseball. I'm too into that
now for you to throw heap football at me. But
talk to me at this time around on the twelfth
of July. I'll be good to go. Right now, I'm

(02:03:43):
all baseball.

Speaker 1 (02:03:43):
I'm going to overload you with preview magazines.

Speaker 7 (02:03:45):
Please do may be able to get me started a
little earlier. There we go, bring them all together, bring
them all. Challenge accepted.

Speaker 9 (02:03:52):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (02:03:52):
Speaking of a challenge accepted, one was thrown out by
someone that I think puts them on the pay no
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Speaker 6 (02:05:01):
Texans wrapping up rookie Mini camp over the weekend and
Derek Carr retiring from the NFL as he was recently
with the Saints. His decision to step away, Sean gonna
save the Saints thirty million in cash in cap relief.
In exchange, he gets to keep his ten million dollar
roster bonus from March, but the team is not going

(02:05:23):
to seek the reimbursement of his signing bonus. So he's
got that. So the Saints need a quarterback. I mean
we just you know last segment talking about CJ.

Speaker 1 (02:05:32):
Shroud. Texans don't need a quarterback. They got a guy.
They're good there.

Speaker 7 (02:05:35):
And you know what, just in case about this car thing,
I give him a lot of credit. Now, if somebody
had asked the question I saw on social media a
Hall of famer, the answer is no, he did. It
was on Twitter. I'm dead serious. It was like a football.
He put up numbers, they said he's it. A Hall
of Famer, showed his yard and said no, no, he's
not a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 6 (02:05:54):
That would have been you know, you know how like
somebody says something like that, and you're like, is that
a serious question?

Speaker 1 (02:05:59):
Right now?

Speaker 7 (02:06:00):
A good career, he's had a good put up numbers,
he's not a Hall of famer, played years, not a
Hall of Famer, and a passionate guy, a family guy,
worked his ass off all those things. It just didn't
come together in January on for and his best year
when he was had had a chance winning the MVP
is when he you know, broke or blew, but I
think broke his leg. And then that was when they

(02:06:22):
came here and got beat by the Texans in the
first round. When the Raiders came Connor Cook at corner
and they dismantled his poor performance, and it was unfortunate
for him. That had to suck for him. We've all
been there too. But this, uh, I give a lot
of credit because he could have played the off season, rehabbed,

(02:06:44):
gone to camp knowing he wasn't one hundred percent and struggling,
made the team and could have got all this guaranteed
money and make just milked his way through it. But
he left what thirty forty million dollars on the table,
just to say, you know what, I can't do that
can't because there's some guys.

Speaker 1 (02:07:02):
Said, shoot, if I can milk it.

Speaker 7 (02:07:04):
Heck, I can even be the backup because if they
cut me, I'm still getting paid.

Speaker 1 (02:07:07):
That's guaranteed money. I can milk it. Hopefully it'll eventually come.

Speaker 7 (02:07:11):
I take shit, give myself eighty five ninety percent, ready
to play all those things that go with Man, that's
thirty plus million dollars plus your your side, you know
the stuff that's not guaranteed. There's still other money on
the contract, right, But to do that and just to say,
you know, it's time to move on. And the truth is,
like I've always said, it's not usually the season that
bothers people. It's the hard It's either the rehab or

(02:07:32):
the hard work in the off season that has to
keep that you don't want to come back and play
at such a level that you embarrass yourself or that
you feel like, man, I come back two days later,
I'm back in surgery and I have to go through
it again, which he probably could have gone in had
more surgery missed. The twenty twenty five season been primed
for twenty twenty six and they're not cutting you when
you heard it. They do then they got to pay you.

(02:07:53):
So I give him credit for you know, a lot
of guys, I know at eighty eighty five percent they
try to milk a couple of years out of it for
the money. But good on both the Saints for the
signing bonus and him for saying, you know what, now
is the time, which also they didn't do it during
training camp or all of a sudden three weeks in
he's getting all the work and getting ready to go
on a practice field and then realize he can't go.

(02:08:15):
And now you're like, well, how do we get how
do we get shook work? And you know, Spencer Rattler
worked to get ready to play. They're going to start
a rookie this year. You watch and he is going
to start. They drafted him, and Kellen Moore is going
to put into work unless, of course, you know, like
you said, you know, all of a sudden, Rattler.

Speaker 1 (02:08:35):
Takes over and plays great.

Speaker 7 (02:08:36):
They drafted this kid for a reason and they're gonna
and maybe they knew deep down that the car wasn't
going to be able to be back, but they they
they went and got him and he is he is
going to play, and I don't know how competitive it's
going to be, but I would imagine they're going to
let these guys let it rip. But there's a good
chances and there's another rookie starter in New Orleans and

(02:08:59):
Carr could milk more of it, but you know by
by saying I'm gonna play and then just hold them hostage.

Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
But he did the right thing.

Speaker 7 (02:09:05):
He's a good guy and they were never going to
win a super Bowl with him at quarterback. It was
never gonna happen. It's time for a change and they're
making it. And remember that salary cap had you know,
depending on what goes on and not retire, it was
like a fifty million dollar cap hit for them had
they have tried to move him or cut him. So
for whatever reason, it's it's worked out and now there's

(02:09:26):
a chance they're either going to have like a second
year guy or a rookie starting at quarterback for them.
But I think Kellen Moore relishes that opportunity to show
that he can win with whoever's there's quarterbacks. He's had
some good he's had some good success in Dallas and
Philadelphia at that position, no.

Speaker 1 (02:09:40):
Doubt, Tripoli do me a favor.

Speaker 6 (02:09:41):
I think it was nine oh two was when Sean
had mentioned what that question was from somebody about Derek Carr.
Pull that and send it to Adam Wexler, who is
a noted Derek Carr lover. I'm just kidding, but I mean, yeah,
if you brought up two names to Wex, Derek Carr
or Kirk Cousins, a visceral reaction starts to emanate from

(02:10:05):
that chair that you sit in is where wex sits
for his show, and usually bring up either of those names.
That's when the rage starts to fill him.

Speaker 1 (02:10:14):
So he's a down on it. He doesn't like that.
He is not a fan whatsoever. Is it because of
what happened with the brother in the past? No, you know,
actually that's a good question. Is a guilt by association?

Speaker 6 (02:10:25):
It might be because I know he's not a big
David Carr guy either, So maybe maybe you're getting to
something here, Sean. I think we unlocked something with the
with the boys from two to six in the afternoon.

Speaker 7 (02:10:36):
I think we've done not just with Wex And I
don't know, I didn't know. I didn't know he had
it distayed for a car, but I think a lot
of people just to sit well. He had obviously a
better career than his brother did. Derek Carr is is
he's uh. I know, guy who coached him in its
pro level said he has worked his ass off and

(02:10:57):
he's tough, but how how does he handle late season
getting hit early in a game?

Speaker 1 (02:11:04):
Then watch him?

Speaker 7 (02:11:05):
This guy coached him, Yeah, and had said that, and
nothing but respect for him and his grind and as
a good teammate. And at times that's been a problem.
You know, he's put up numbers that come from behind numbers,
but there's been times in key moments when he hasn't
played his best. But that happened that that's the majority
of quarterbacks. Most don't live like Brady and Mahomes do.
Most live like that. Really good career, not a Hall

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of Fame career and a new thing going on in
New Orleans. And I wish Derek Carr the best. I
hope he loves retirement. Seems like a good family guy
and and seems like a hell of a person. And
he had a hell of a run that he probably
didn't think two years ago or so when he went
to New Orleans that this was going to be the
way it turned out.

Speaker 6 (02:11:49):
Yeah, I mean this is usually a time of year
when guys, you know, they're going through the workouts everything,
and you know, some of the guys that might have
been on the fence about continuing to play, this is
when they say, yeah, I'm good, like I think I'm good.

Speaker 1 (02:12:00):
Yeah, you either jump all.

Speaker 7 (02:12:03):
This is the stage with man, I got to ramp
up the workouts because the season's coming quick. Or I
got twelve years in ten years in it's like you
know what. Or you do that and you go in
and you're a little bit out of shape. You're saying, well,
maybe milk one more, two more years here for this salary.

Speaker 1 (02:12:18):
It happens.

Speaker 7 (02:12:19):
But a good on Derek Carr for you know, and
who knows how severe it would have been. Could he
have played at eighty eighty five percent? But I have
a lot of respect for him. He was a solid player.

Speaker 6 (02:12:30):
Now to the pay No Mind list, because Robert Griffin
the third. I think we can agree, he.

Speaker 1 (02:12:35):
Said Bobby Griffin.

Speaker 6 (02:12:36):
And he said some off the wall things throughout his career. Well,
on his That's more than Fair out of Pocket podcast,
he said that the Saints, Kellen Moore, Mickey Loomis, they
need to call Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (02:12:49):
Yeah, that's gonna be the fix.

Speaker 6 (02:12:50):
Because the last couple of years in Jersey with the
Jets that went so well, and you just got a
gift of getting out of potentially salary call by having
that money roll off the books, and you drafted a
guy with a high draft pick in the second round,
that you should probably go ahead.

Speaker 1 (02:13:09):
And just continue doing what you've been doing.

Speaker 6 (02:13:11):
Or you could take option B, which is the option
I would take if you're Mickey Loomis in the Saints
and just say we'll take our lumps for now and
we'll get our guy.

Speaker 1 (02:13:21):
Yeah, I well, why would you want to do that?

Speaker 3 (02:13:25):
Why?

Speaker 1 (02:13:25):
Why not?

Speaker 6 (02:13:26):
Did not take the last The point was all of
the veterans that are there, Alvin Kamara, Cam Jordan, players
like that. Well, Pittsburgh same way, right, I guess the
veterans you would think, so, listen, who would My whole
thing is not Rogers the past player.

Speaker 1 (02:13:43):
It's is Rogers all in. I don't worried.

Speaker 7 (02:13:46):
Listen, if Aaron Rodgers has protection to drop back to pass,
guess what I guarantee you he can still do throw
it now with the Achilles, his movement's not the same
he he had underrated movement. He could buy time and
make a lot of things happen. It's not the same. Yeah,
having some of the players they got on there, Aaron
Rodgers will be a help. Plus he's playing indoors a
lot of games, and it'll be And I would imagine

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it in Kellen Moore's offense. He'd thrive, he'd put up numbers.
And is he better than the guys they got there?

Speaker 3 (02:14:13):
Now?

Speaker 7 (02:14:14):
Of course he is. The question is does a headache
come along with it? What's he gonna do? Is he
all in? I gotta know see for me, I don't
know at this stage. I know Aaron Rodgers can pick
up a football and throw it. I know the guy
can play. But he's at an age now that he's
not gonna be good enough to just show up and
be kind of in. I'm not about to mental the

(02:14:37):
grind that goes he ready to go to New Orleans
or the Pittsburd be all in and say, you know what,
I'm gonna let it rip and show you guys that
I still got the same game I had when I
was thirty four thirty five years old. I'm gonna if
he's all in, somebody will have hell to pay. He's
a good player if he could stay healthy. But I
just don't know if he's all in, what's taking the time?

(02:14:57):
What is he waiting on?

Speaker 1 (02:14:58):
Somebody?

Speaker 7 (02:14:58):
Just come out of nowhere minute I saw it was
going to start. McCarthy, dude, I don't anticipate your going there.
And in New Orleans they've they've drafted a guy they
don't have car and you're going to add to the
salary caps.

Speaker 1 (02:15:09):
I mean, okay.

Speaker 7 (02:15:10):
Then there's Pittsburgh, which we all thought that maybe is
going to happen and still will and will he help him?

Speaker 1 (02:15:15):
Yeah, he'll be.

Speaker 7 (02:15:16):
He's already the best quarterback in their room and he's
not even on their roster. But the question is how
good And at that position, you can't be kind of
in and be good.

Speaker 1 (02:15:26):
He's not.

Speaker 7 (02:15:27):
At thirty, he could have been kind of in and
still been successful. He had plenty of run ins with
the Packers and the irritation and played like an MVP.
Matter of fact, four times he did. Yeah, So for me,
it's to him, how good's good enough? If he's eighty
percent in mentally is that good enough at his age?
Will he'll be forty one? I think during the season

(02:15:48):
to go out and do what he did seven years ago. Well,
the last few years because of an injury and performance,
we haven't seen it. We've seen flashes of it. Can
he sustain it? But to me, for me, it's not physical.
For me, is Aaron Rodgers still love football? If he does,
somebody will get him. The question is whin how long
do you have to go with this before you say, dude,

(02:16:09):
at some point in time, we got to get you
into the offseason program. I know you're a veteran, but
it'd be great just just so they know you care.
To me, it's about buying mentally from him. Physically, I
know he can play, he can still throw it.

Speaker 1 (02:16:22):
I am.

Speaker 7 (02:16:23):
My concern is, Okay, if he's eighty percent in mentally,
what's that do the rest of my team and I
take on all the stuff that goes with him, as
far as just the little the McAfee, and then there's
a problem because he's going to continue all the stuff
that people perceive about Aaron Rodgers. My one concern is
he healthy. But the main one is at this stage

(02:16:44):
of the game, does he still love football. If you
don't love football at forty one years old, he'll be average.
He's got to love it again. I got I got
to know he loves it if I'm bringing him in
and paying him that kind of money and taking the
risk of disruption.

Speaker 6 (02:16:58):
Yeah, it kind of reminds me of the same a
dog returning to its vomit. Like that's pretty much what
that would be if the Saints went this route. Like
it's like you need to turn a corner one way
or another. If you feel like you're right there and
you can have a chance to be able to move
up in the NFC picture, then maybe you entertain it.

Speaker 10 (02:17:16):
You're not.

Speaker 1 (02:17:17):
You're not.

Speaker 6 (02:17:18):
Maybe maybe you're barely a playoff team if he plays
somewhat well this season, But then what down the road.

Speaker 1 (02:17:25):
You're gonna be You restarted all all over again.

Speaker 7 (02:17:27):
The second this offseason hits, no matter what the success
or not is, you're going to start the questions in January.

Speaker 1 (02:17:33):
What's Aaron doing?

Speaker 3 (02:17:34):
Now?

Speaker 7 (02:17:34):
What's he going to do this offseason? Is he happy?
And I can say you this, the New Orleans Saints
are not winning a Super Bowl Aaron Rodgers or a
quarterback next year. They're not going they're not good enough.
The reset comes for everyone. They are not good enough,
and it's for those who accept it those are the
ones that beneficial dealing with Tampa and Atlanta. There's some
good team but it's not a dominant division. But there's some.
There's some okay, man their cloth, they're getting better, and

(02:17:57):
you can say that about two or three teams in
the division. They're not super Bowl ready. So people need
to understand that now. So do you want to go
nine and eight eight nine with a new guy that's
starting to adjust in? Do you want to go dine
and eight with Aaron Rodgers? Do they know how to
do that? They're they're not going fourteen and three with

(02:18:20):
Aaron Rodgers quarterback.

Speaker 1 (02:18:21):
Just so you.

Speaker 7 (02:18:21):
Understand, Now, if Aaron's bought in, is he better than
Tyler and better than Spencer?

Speaker 1 (02:18:26):
Sure?

Speaker 7 (02:18:28):
But once again, how long is he bought in? What's
the first time it goes a little haywire? Then what
is it bringing another one of my guys? I mean,
like I said, I just don't know for me where
his football head is right now. If he's not all in,
it's a tough position to play when you're all in
let alone when you're not well.

Speaker 6 (02:18:47):
One of those organizations you mentioned, they had a hell
of a thing thrown at them over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:18:51):
We'll discuss that here.

Speaker 6 (02:18:52):
It is a Shawn Salisbury show, Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:18:57):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Your astroids, your rockets, your.

Speaker 1 (02:19:06):
Voice, you should go with that.

Speaker 6 (02:19:10):
But Gene Diaz of the Astros pointing out to me earlier,
by the way, happy belated birthday did you?

Speaker 7 (02:19:16):
And day that must have been after I started March ninth, Yeah,
you relate to the March party. Yeah, so I'll remember
that next year about a week late, just a week yeah. Now,
now I'm just kidding to me. But Geene had birthday.
Huh yeah, birthday.

Speaker 6 (02:19:33):
Not happy birthday to him. But his point was that
Bud Black was named bench coach. So gotta believe that
probably with you know, him getting that title, is that
they probably came to him first and said, hey, Bud,
you want to do this. He probably was like, now
give it to the young kid. Let let's let him
get it, get a chance, and I'll be here to
help him. But you're talking about not Bud Black, Hurdle.

(02:19:54):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry Budd Black was fired. Yeah, Clint
Hurdle is now the bench coach. It was like a
consultant for the team. See that the scenario pre the
hamster falling off the wheel is I had the right
name in mind, I just didn't say it covered. But
it also kind of reminds me of like whenever you know,
so the team and ask you know, hey, you know

(02:20:15):
what like this used to happen with kubiak Uh? Could
they move them out a head coach but make them
the offensive coordinator? I go, let me ask you a question.
What do you do for a living? Are you in
some sort of management Well, yeah, I'm a manager here.

Speaker 1 (02:20:26):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (02:20:27):
So they come to you and say, not only are
we going to demote you, we're going to demote you
two spots down and the person who you trained to
get ready for it, they're taking over and they've had.

Speaker 7 (02:20:40):
We need your experience and we need you on the
graveyard shift right exactly?

Speaker 1 (02:20:44):
What would what would be your response if you had
any options? Resume? Yeah, that's what you'd say.

Speaker 6 (02:20:49):
Yeah, I'd say, guess what, I'll take my chances. And
even if I'm an OC somewhere else. I'll go ahead
and take that. That's always my favorite when people do that.
Don't ever throw that at us. That's the response you're
going to get. I'm telling you right now a fair warning. Yes,
don't ever do it. You want the rage of Dan,
You're going to get it.

Speaker 1 (02:21:05):
No question about it.

Speaker 7 (02:21:06):
And the moral of the story for the weekend is
get great pitching and don't when you don't get great
pitching or a player struggles, who's made all this effort
to give back, criticize the game if you want, leave
the family and the death threats alone.

Speaker 1 (02:21:22):
For sure.

Speaker 7 (02:21:23):
It's it's incomprehensible to me that somebody does this. But
unfortunately this has been had. This is an age old problem.
We've heard it a million times, and now it hits here.
And you do not want that following around a great
fan base. And very easily could be somebody that wasn't
an Astros fan. Very easily could be sure, it can

(02:21:46):
it could very easily be somebody else. But the fact
of matters, however, many what they're doing. But when police
have to watch mccullor's house and they got to keep
an eye on it, they take it very seriously, and
somebody is eventually going to pay for this, and as.

Speaker 1 (02:22:00):
Rightfully so, it's it's it's it's it's his job.

Speaker 7 (02:22:04):
And then let him do it without having to worry
about his kids walking to school. Okay, if they do,
you can get my point. But for the most part, excellent.
Saw some bats living up. Hopefully your don back sooner
than later. And to Renel Blanco, take a bow, my friend,
you were outstanding yesterday. And the hunter Brown, I can't
imagine the superlet is we're gonna be thrown at you

(02:22:27):
in the next eighteen months. Honestly, if this assent continues,
he's lights out.

Speaker 3 (02:22:32):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:22:32):
This dude's really special for sure.

Speaker 6 (02:22:35):
I've said it in to bear repeating myself. They hit,
they win. It's really that simple. This team hits, They
give themselves a chance in every single game that they
play in, and hopefully they can do that. And we've
been told that, hey, the Bats are gonna live it
up the bats, the Bats will get there and when
they do, well, you know, hear Dana Brown every single
week with us here. He tells us that it's gonna

(02:22:57):
be a lot of fun around here once that happens.

Speaker 1 (02:22:58):
How would Trump talk about the bats.

Speaker 6 (02:23:01):
Once the bats start to come to life, you will see.

Speaker 1 (02:23:04):
Winning around here that you have not.

Speaker 6 (02:23:07):
Become accustomed to in sometime, and it'll lead to the
greatest economy that they'll be winning so much.

Speaker 7 (02:23:17):
You would say that Jeremy Payne, your kid, boy, is
he fund to one? What a great player, what a
what a fantastic competitor.

Speaker 16 (02:23:26):
Tell me the greatest economy in the history of mankind.
The drug prices will go down, the borders will be closed.

Speaker 1 (02:23:37):
And Jeremy Payana will be your leadoff hitter. Somewhere out there,
Clant is listening and being like, Hey, that's.

Speaker 7 (02:23:42):
That's my stick. Yeah, I can't do I like. I
like what you do them though I can't do him.
I will say those are the things he'll say, but
that ain't how he says it.

Speaker 6 (02:23:49):
That's like me saying what a competitor. Kind of reminded
me because I remember hearing an interview few years ago,
is before Michigan played against TCU when Hardball was still
a coach at Michigan, and they brought up the quarterback
that was at TCU at the time, redheaded kid.

Speaker 1 (02:24:02):
He was ready to Max Duggan. Max Duggan. Yeah, that's
so it is.

Speaker 6 (02:24:06):
And he was doing an interview with Serious and they
were like, you know, Max Duggan, and and hardball lit up.
He goes, Oh, what a competitor. Huh man, what I
loved watching that guy play man.

Speaker 1 (02:24:15):
He was. He was great.

Speaker 7 (02:24:16):
He's he's got grit, fiery, you know. Yeah, he was
a great, willed their team to win a lot of
tough ass competitor until they played Georgia and that'll that'll
humble you a lot of times playing against that NFL defense.

Speaker 1 (02:24:29):
They found economy, yeah, real quick here though.

Speaker 6 (02:24:36):
George Pickens over the weekend taking a shot the Steelers
calling him the cheapest organization on Instagram.

Speaker 7 (02:24:43):
He's probably not far off on the on the of
the organization. You know, they move on for players and
the cheap. I love the organization because I think they've
done it their way for a long time.

Speaker 1 (02:24:54):
Results it is.

Speaker 7 (02:24:55):
They don't waffle much on here's how we do it
once in an they being they gave DK the big
new contract when he got there, right, so they'll do it.
But they are very very very judicious about how they
go about their business in Pittsburgh. And and he didn't like it.
But are you surprised that on his way out the
door he's George Picking said.

Speaker 1 (02:25:15):
Something taking the pop shots.

Speaker 7 (02:25:16):
Come on, buddy, I mean, it won't be the last
time they're gonna go win a game this year. And
he's gonna catch two balls for twenty seven yards that
he's going to be pissed.

Speaker 1 (02:25:25):
Now.

Speaker 7 (02:25:25):
I like that in my receivers that want to go
win and they want the ball because well it makes
them better. And and you know, teams are always better
when your best players are involved. But if you get
ten of them and lose, it's okay not to be happy, right,
It's like, well, we got to win games and get
ours at the same time. He's a hell of a talent,

(02:25:46):
a man alivee. The Prescott stuff, that's just being the
cowboy quarterback, the Jerry Jones stuff, the new rookie head
coach stuff. Yeah, that's the CDEE Lamb, Michael Parsons, George
Pick trifecta, all immensely talented. The toughest part of Brian

(02:26:08):
Schottenheimer's job is not going to be calling plays and
getting the play call he wants because he wants to
run it. Now they've got you know, two or three
guys in the backfield, they're going to be running by committee.
The tight end's pretty good what Jake Fergus is pretty
good player. Their receivers on paper, they've improved their perimeter,
there's no doubt. Can the offensive line step their game

(02:26:29):
up and the rest of it. But Brian Schottenheimer's number
one priority, how do I manage these egos to where
everybody gets theirs, Because it's the toughest part. Won't be
managing the talent, It'll be managing the mouths to go
with the talent on There's That's why I said, Jerry,
you throw them right in there. The pot is the
Jerry CD, the dak Good pub and and hate he'll

(02:26:53):
get from across. He'll throw for four hundred and somebody
will be mad at him, right, and then you got
the CD Lamb and the George Pickens along with Michael Parsons,
that whole thing. And we're gonna be watching every week
how Brian Schottenheimer handles the chatter we are just going
to that'll be a challenge in itself. And Shasberg Steelers
are a hell of an organization. They don't pay like others,

(02:27:15):
but it's hard to argue with their continued and sustained success,
especially the guy who is a man on the sidelines
and one of the great coaches in the league in
Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 6 (02:27:24):
And he'll still find a way to win ten games.
I mean, my god, he did it with Mason Rudolph
and Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 1 (02:27:29):
Never fails. Imagine what else he can do? All right?

Speaker 6 (02:27:33):
Is being a fan a bad thing? Usually not, but
in this case, well it might be. We'll discuss that here.

Speaker 7 (02:27:39):
It is a Seawn Salisbury show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:27:42):
And the Sewn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 6 (02:27:48):
Because, well, the guy who announced that did it on
the Today Show today, Mike Tarrico, of course, who does
the games for Sunday Night Football on NBC, and he
was the one who shared the news about the Eagles
and Cowboys. Well, he was on a Mets podcast over
the weekend called The Orange Zone, and he was talking
about you know, ESPN. I think he was asked, you know,

(02:28:10):
do you still watch it? And he said no, I
don't because he gets annoyed by the fandom on there.
And among the many things he said, one person in particular,
he pointed out Steven A.

Speaker 1 (02:28:21):
Smith.

Speaker 6 (02:28:21):
You know, steven A is great, he's a friend. It's
done a wonderful job. But I don't want time wasted
during an NBA halftime show telling me about your feelings
as a Knicks fan. I want to hear about the
game and what I missed and what I need to
look forward to. But again, that's your personal way of
consuming sports in a little bit more old school. When
it comes to that, I'm old so I'm glad to

(02:28:43):
be old school. So his point is that a huge
reason why he doesn't watch ESPN. And look, he's not
the only one that does this. There's many others.

Speaker 1 (02:28:50):
A lot of it are in the same line, right,
And I mean, and I get it too.

Speaker 6 (02:28:55):
I think that it is kind of as he even
pointed to, an old school way of thinking. I think
if you're genuinely like for me, for example, I'm an
Astros fan, I'm a Rockets fan, I'm a Houston everything fan,
I think that appeals to our audience. I think it
makes me even more relatable to the audience because if
I have certain opinions, well then you know that I'm

(02:29:16):
genuinely getting to that point because it's not only my
personal side, but it's also the professional side.

Speaker 1 (02:29:22):
That's leaking over onto the air, and I'm fine with that.

Speaker 7 (02:29:24):
And I think in a local broadcast it's normal to
like your local teams. It's also normal to be a fan.
But in a national scale of a game at halftime,
like right now coming on, there's no game going on,
we're just giving our p That's what sports talk radio
is to me. I'm with Mike Tarika one hundred percent.
I really don't care how much you like the Knicks.

(02:29:46):
We know you say it every day, you have your
podcast to go do that. I'd like you, and we've
lost this. On national television, it becomes an opinionated soliloquy
about me, me, me, as opposed to here's the game,
here's ten minutes of a halftime show. Twelve minutes of
a halftime show. What did I see that needs to
be fixed? Or how does this team get back into it?

(02:30:08):
Or why is the score tied? That's your analytident. That's
the halftime show.

Speaker 1 (02:30:11):
It's not.

Speaker 7 (02:30:12):
I'm not getting into you know where you like to
go to breakfast when you come to New York City?
Steve I mean Steven Ay, Sorry, I but I'm just
using him as an example.

Speaker 1 (02:30:20):
Like because the Mike Trico, I'm.

Speaker 7 (02:30:21):
With my social media for I can show you that
on a Tuesday when there's no game and you got
your podcast or the you're doing your morning TV show.

Speaker 1 (02:30:30):
I can't what what's the name of his show in
the morning?

Speaker 7 (02:30:32):
First not first take? I can't remember which one it is, Okay,
get up for first take? Is that you have you
have three hours or whatever it is they're on the
air to give all. You're going to talk Nicks for Well,
you're going to talk the three best, the three the
three not the three best. You're going to talk the Lakers.
The Lebron will be a conversation today probably and they're
out of it. Uh, you're going to get the New

(02:30:56):
York Knicks. The Cowboys will be a conversation. I'm sure
with Pickings they just will on ESPN. But I'm with him.
The halftime is not you know. The great thing about it,
you can't be TNT. The great thing about them is
they'll break down good hard basketball. Kenny will get up
there and draw it and then they'll go back and
forth on Charles on the entertaining value of why the

(02:31:18):
coach made this decision. But they're still talking basketball, and
it's okay to voice your opinion, but on morning you
should your local. But I think you do a good
job also of making sure that if they perform poorly,
they It's okay to be opinionated that way too, a homer. Listen,
Being a homer's one thing, but being an insulfable one
where you can't criticize because your favorite player struck out

(02:31:41):
five times, he didn't have a good day, it's okay
to say that, not you, but I'm talking on that,
and Mike's correct. I don't want to hear about your
personal win. It's you give me insight. That's why you're
the expert making d wealth for him twenty million year.
If they're putting you on the halftime show, save all
the i'm a fandom stuff for letting.

Speaker 1 (02:31:59):
Us know who you love.

Speaker 7 (02:32:00):
You know it for your podcast and the rest. When
it comes to basketball or you're doing a baseball game,
when you go, I want Mike Stanton, I want bogas
Sevic as they do telling me why are they having
trouble in between you know, say the pregame poll, but
they'll go over to them for a quick take during
a timeout, right and boom, they're hit it. They're telling
you why, what the struggle is, what they got to

(02:32:20):
do this, you're looking for x's and o's direction on
those I'm with Mike Tariko one hundred percent. I think
that it's become too much what you have to say
about you as opposed to what you have to say
about what's going on in that very game. And game
analysis is a lot different than a five day week
radio or television show where you got four hours and

(02:32:42):
you're talking about all food and sports and all of it.
My halftime, a pregame show should be focused on what's
going on across the country with these other teams. If
you're in college football, tell me everything on college game day,
But at halftime when you come back, we're talking specifically
about this game and why it's like this. And I'm

(02:33:02):
with if that's old school, then I'm okay being old
school because I don't need I need opinion on the game.
You can give me the opinion on all your other
stuff which you like to eat when you go to
Madison Square Garden on Tuesday on your podcast.

Speaker 6 (02:33:14):
Sean, it's a lack of self awareness, and I'll get
to that in just a second, but you mentioned the
NBA on.

Speaker 1 (02:33:19):
So it's also narcissistic on some cameras.

Speaker 6 (02:33:21):
Yeah, inside the NBA. The reason why it works is
because two things. It's genuine and they're likable. People like
you actually enjoy listening to them talk basketball because.

Speaker 1 (02:33:31):
It's and Ernie keeps it going. Is it that likable?
Is a great point.

Speaker 7 (02:33:39):
But they the way they present it, it's non threatening.
It's just like you know what, man, it's it's dudes.
They've they've turned on a mic and a camera. And
I can tell you this. I asked Ernie. I said, Ernie,
what you guys going over in the pre show stuff?
He goes, they show up when everybody goes. We don't
script any of this. Sean, he knows when he's got
to get in and out of break sure. And Ernie's

(02:34:01):
is you have to be a brilliant traffic cup to
deal with those guys, right, You've.

Speaker 1 (02:34:05):
Got to be a genius. Right and they know it.
Run off and they know it. He's the perfect guy
for them, is Ernie. They don't script that. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:34:15):
Now they make it between when they're coming out of
saying okay, Charles, you take the Lakers highlight on Lebron
hitting you know, the three jumpers or how you feel
about it. Okay, but you're exactly right. It's the it's
the appeal and there's no more appealing pregame, postgame show
and halftime show than that. And then you add the

(02:34:37):
long form of the college game day. That's why those
two are the very best and personalities.

Speaker 6 (02:34:43):
Back to the lack of self awareness, it's also ego driven.
These people honestly think that they're the most interesting people
in any room they step into, and that their opinion
is the Bible. So it's like, oh, well, you know,
of course people care about me being a Knicks fan.

Speaker 1 (02:34:57):
No, we don't. I mean, as a matter of fact, you've.

Speaker 6 (02:35:00):
Had people making fun of him for them showing Steven A.
Smith walking into an arena like almost like he's a player.
It's like he's an inconsequential.

Speaker 7 (02:35:08):
Part of it with like with the security guy walking
with him and he's he's looking around knowing people are
loving him, but playing like it's it's a hassle. I've
seen the movie before, and the truth of the matters. We
know you've told us you're a nick fan the rest
of it, and now you keep telling me, can you
be with your analysis? Is the lead guys, he's twenty
million bucks a year, dude, He's going to be on

(02:35:29):
TV whether you like it or not.

Speaker 10 (02:35:30):
And he.

Speaker 7 (02:35:33):
Works his ass off. He does work hard and he's
got a lot of energy. Now, I'd rather hear what
you know in truth with maybe a guy who just
got done in the playoffs. It's on the telling me
that maybe Steven A. Smith being a nick is he
able to delineate the fandom from true analysis and listen,

(02:35:54):
I've known him for a long time. The guy works
his ass off and he shows up. He posts, he'll
show up to work and he works his butt off.
But we know you're a fan. But I still want whise.
I got to answer the whys at halftime a pregame show.
Why is this happening or what's going to happen here?
Break it down for me like a basketball analyst or
a football analyst would.

Speaker 1 (02:36:13):
Well.

Speaker 6 (02:36:13):
I mean it's also too when you get nationally in this,
like say we were doing a national show right now.
Of course we're not going to talk astros the entire
time a national show.

Speaker 7 (02:36:22):
The astros are get talked about as much as the
Red Sox and the Pittsburgh at most right, it's again KYP.
Know your personnel, that's right, Kya, know your audience well,
but they but a lot of that's on the boss too.
They don't. They don't stop it, you know. So what
do you want in a pregame show or in a
halftime show. I want my Mike Drieca once game. I

(02:36:44):
want it to be game sensitive, that game sensitive. If
there's four of them going on, then you should have
been watching it like they're in the NC two A.
I need to know about all of them. Clark Kellogg's
so good at his job, don't you agree?

Speaker 3 (02:36:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:36:58):
It was a nice job. I mean, just guys who
who there's a free flowing and get it. But also
stick to basketball. When I say and haven't liked, I
like you know me. I'd like to have as many
laughs as anybody. But the game analysis is far different
than a daily four or five hour three hour show.
What he's doing every day when it comes to the
pre or postgame show. In a halftime show, that's specific

(02:37:19):
to what you're doing and fans I would think expect that.
I don't need the Steven A. Smith versu Skip Bayless
argument for eight minutes at halftime. Now halftime's over, and
you haven't told me exactly what happened in the first
half of why Brunson's going to score twenty in the
second half to pull him back into it, and that
that's what he has to discern and go bet But

(02:37:40):
there's no lacking his energy. But I'm with my treco.
If that's old school, then give me old school all day.
That's you know insert name here of Oh, well, so
and so said this. I'm like, you just lost me
at so and so said this, Like I have zero
zero interest to go down that road.

Speaker 6 (02:37:55):
Agreed, all right, it's a spinoff. Sometimes they work, sometimes
they don't. I like this idea. We'll talk about it.
Sean Salisbury Show.

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Let the celebration start war. Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
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Speaker 6 (02:39:57):
Think I've told you before, massive fan of the show Yellowstone, which,
by the way, I was seeing. Me and you are
both fans of Taylor Sheridan's other work land Man as well.

Speaker 1 (02:40:08):
If you're not, you haven't seen it. Season great.

Speaker 6 (02:40:11):
Season two of land Man is supposed to be coming
our way in September. Nice, I'm pumped.

Speaker 7 (02:40:16):
Nice, Yeah, now, I pump more pumped for that than
I am the NFL season today. Okay today, but I'll
change with the NFL scene because I'm like I said,
I'm a baseball.

Speaker 1 (02:40:24):
That all allow.

Speaker 7 (02:40:25):
Like I've said, there's rules, there's exceptions, there's there's all
of these different things. But would you be interested in
a network spin off that CBS announced called Marshals. It's
going to feature Luke Grimes, who played Johnson Casey Dutton,
and it is going to be centered around him.

Speaker 1 (02:40:45):
Is it a is it a Sheridan production? Yes?

Speaker 7 (02:40:49):
There I am. Yes, of course I'm interested in I'll
watch that. Why wouldn't I?

Speaker 6 (02:40:53):
The plot is described with the Yellowstone Dutton ranch behind them.
Casey Dutton joins an elite unit of the US Marshalls,
combining his skills both as a cowboy and a Navy
seal to bring range justice to Montana, where he and
his teammates must balance family duty and high psychological costs
that come with serving the last line of defense in

(02:41:14):
the region's war on violence.

Speaker 7 (02:41:16):
Is his pain and the ass wife from the Yellowstone
gonna be on the show.

Speaker 6 (02:41:22):
It's funny you say that, because once this came out,
people started to react on social media. One of them
was Casey and Monica could be the stars of the
show called characters, I don't care about.

Speaker 1 (02:41:35):
What's another one? Pass was one.

Speaker 6 (02:41:38):
What's it Monica crying all the time because Casey is
away working in busy.

Speaker 7 (02:41:44):
She drove me as crazy as a character on the planet.
Every time, the whining and the complaining of mister Dutton.
I mean they rolled out the red car every time.
The coddling of her kid, yeah, she constantest shut up?

Speaker 1 (02:42:04):
What else do you want from the guy?

Speaker 7 (02:42:06):
Yeah he did you out there in the middle of nowhere.
What else do you need? It's dead brother, for God's sake.
She of all the characters, she drove me the craziest.

Speaker 1 (02:42:16):
Yes, I know.

Speaker 7 (02:42:19):
If they're bringing her along as the wife, I'll pass.
Not that she's not a good act. She played what
I'm sure she's different than the role, but the role
made me like, do not do not make me have
to go through that again. She was, but it was
the method of the Mattis was. Yeah, it drove us crazy,
but we couldn't stop watching her drive us crazy because
she's just annoying as hell. I don't need that part,

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but I'll watch it because it's Sheridan and he always
does something.

Speaker 1 (02:42:44):
Good real quick. Here.

Speaker 6 (02:42:45):
What if somehow Sheridan and Coole Houser are able to
mind Fences and Casey can deputize Rip Wheeler.

Speaker 7 (02:42:52):
I'm all in the Ripper. Give me more of the Ripper,
less of Monica. Sounds weird, I know, but I she
just I couldn't take it. But I'll take the Ripper
Rip And I'll tell you what if you haven't seen
mob Land, have you seen that one?

Speaker 1 (02:43:05):
Not yet?

Speaker 7 (02:43:06):
I've heard good things. Yeah, with Tom Hardy and Pierce Browsan. Yeah,
it's uh, it's a trip. That's a good show though, man,
really really good show. And then there's always Reacher. Whenever
i can get a new a season or Reacher, I'm
all in. So but yeah, I'll take Yeah, I'll take
a I'll take another spin off from Sheridan to see
where it goes. Absolutely with Reacher, I can't get the

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guy who plays Jack Reacher, his previous character on Blue
Mountain States as Chaz.

Speaker 1 (02:43:34):
I can't get that out of my head.

Speaker 7 (02:43:36):
Well, anybody that reads on the other side, Lee Child
books the Reacher character, which I've read Tom Cruise. Yeah,
Cruise is a great Reacher. But the problem is the
description in the book does not look like Tom Cruise.
The description of the book is a six five two
hundred and fifty payed right. We're bad at right. Well,
Cruise played the role great because he does all. He's

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really good at everything. But the appearance the TV show
that's the paramount show. That's more like Reacher's supposed to
look from the way Lee Child drew him up in
the book and wrote about him. So there you go,
work shopping, a little bit work shopping. He sean, and
congrats to the astros on a good weekend. Lance mccullor's

(02:44:18):
hanging there, man, there you go, There you go, triple
Emmanuel Elmore.

Speaker 6 (02:44:20):
I'm Dan Matthews, Matt Thomas Show with Ross coming up
right here as we will talk to you in twenty
hours right here.

Speaker 1 (02:44:27):
Sports Talk seven ninety