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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsbury Salisbury Hot, Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury to usc Troupe's longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
The other two tone bat. Here's the three to two
and that is strike three. Call on the inside corner
got him with a ninety two mile an hour two
seamer and Colton Gordon has his first big league strikeout.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
This one's great good. What the left season? Your paradis
loves Diking Park.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
That's his sixth home run of the year, and the
Astros are on the board. First pitch, and that is
ripped down the left field line, hooky well. It's stay
fair at sure Well and bounds all the way into
the corner. Dubon scores, Paya trades places with them at second,
an RBI double.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
It's three to two Royals.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It's the one zero and Duban lifts it down the
left field line, poking away from Waters long run.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
That's gonna drop in for a hit.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
McCormick racing to third, he gets away from Tony Parishtika
McCormick will score in the second.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Dubon we're tied at three.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Here's the two.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Painia lifts this one over the head of Garcia and
then the left field Dubon racing around third waters double
clutches throws the second. It's an RBI single for Pnia
and the Astros says come back to take a fourth
to Rae lead Tania four for four, one to one,
and Pascatino lifts it in the center buyers coming in.
(01:46):
He's there, makes the catch and that is the ballgame.
Theank Houston Astros comes from behind and take two out
of three from the Kansas City Royals, winning tonight four
to three.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
There you go, Robert Ford telling you all you need
to know, and with that we say away we go
and good morning. Here it is the Sean Salisbury Show
Sports Talks seven ninety sans Sean this morning and tomorrow morning.
That means you get Cole Thompson in here. You're basically
me now I am turning into you. I was gonna say,
you know that, right, that's not good for you.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Oh believe me.
Speaker 7 (02:17):
I've already kind of impressed and laid down on my
body that I'm not gonna sleep, I'm always gonna be working.
I better have an apartment literally, right, across the street
from here, because of.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I'm gonna get called in. I'm coming up with the miners.
That's what I'm here for. That's it.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
That's it for sure. I mean, it's it's pretty much.
You know, hey, we need this. Hey, can you go
do Sunday night football? Then come in and do the
morning show. That's that's always my fait.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
It's always a good time, you know. Sure, Listen, I
only live once. I'm still young, i still have my youth.
I still feel like that I have a lot to
learn and grow from, which means I'm not ready to
go ahead and throw myself off of the building.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
So I'm in a good spot right now. It's a
good morning.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
As long as you got that outlook, Cole, You're doing good.
But yeah, Sean gonna be out today tomorrow, and he'll
also be out next week too. We'll get him back
the following week after Moroial Day. But I'm gonna have
Colon here today. A lot of astros. Of course, the
Texans drop their schedule, or at least the NFL does,
and the Texans part of it.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I thought that by the way, four.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
National TV games. The only thing that kind of drew
me off sides. I mean, you know, using football Engo.
The only thing that I saw was the TBD at
the end, and then I'm like, like, do they not
have opponents? And then it took me a second for
the graphic that they had on you know, the Texans is.
I was like, I don't see any opponents, like where
are they? And then I saw, oh, Chargers and Colts.
(03:38):
So I do appreciate that the NFL is just kind
of like, we're probably gonna end up flexing those games.
One of them might be a Sunday night game, maybe
the Chargers, and then the Colts game will probably be
the Saturday afternoon game.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
One of them's gonna be the Saturday game.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
One of them is going to be a Sunday stand
alone game. So they'll be five total standalone games for
the Texans in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
I'm not complaining about it. I think the main thing
is we all or hype what is the schedule leak?
And that's the part that sometimes gets frustrating because of
you don't know what really is going to happen, but
you know, the opponents like it doesn't change in my opinion,
other than two things Number one, when is your bye week?
(04:16):
And number two how many Prime times games you have?
That's it because everything else is just already embedded in.
You know when you're facing off against certain teams, you
know that you're playing the NFC West, you know that
you're playing the AFC West.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well, have they gotten any better?
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Are they still the same underappreciated or underwhelming teams that
we saw in twenty twenty four? Does that change the
way that I look at the team?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Not at all.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
I still think of the Texans as in this realm
of ten to eleven wins, favorites to win the AFC South. Oh,
instead of actually traveling on the road to close out
the year against Tennessee, you're welcoming in Indianapolis.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
So it still is a divisional matchup.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Yeah, and you know, the Texans, as I mentioned, getting
those four nationally televised games, are gonna have two on
Monday Night Football, one Sunday Nights, and one Amazon Prime.
The prime game gonna be the Bills here. But is
it safe to say that you're not really interested in
doing the let's go week by week.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Hey, that's a win, that's a loss.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
It could be the exact same as I did last year.
Like here, okay, dude, here's the thing. They play in
a mantile division. Tennessee is still rebuilding, Indianapolis is still rebuilding.
Jacksonville cool, he got Travis Hunter. I hated the trade
for the second that it was made. I don't believe
that much in James Gladstone, even though I think he's
a better GM than Trent Bulkey.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
But a hell of a speech to start off press
conference was low.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
I mean, like, let's call it as is, Trent Bulkey
versus James Clodstone. You or I who's never worked in
football operations, is a better GM than Trent Bulky. That's
how low of a bar you have out in Duval County.
You're still the favorites to win the division. You still
have a clear separation in my opinion right now between
Kansas City, Baltimore, Buffalo, and You're probably better than half
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the teams that you're gonna face off against in the NFC.
Tampa Bay's probably at your level, maybe a little bit
better than them. You're better than San Francisco, You're better
than Arizona. You're probably at the same level as what
you want in the two Los Angeles teams.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
That's ten and seven. There you go.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
I mean, that's what they've done the last couple of years,
and we'll see if that means that they can get
past the divisional round for the first time.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
But Dan, is.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
Anybody complaining if you're ten and seven in this division
because that's a guaranteed playoffs potch Sure, that's I think
the difference here is that you're still going to the playoffs.
You're still gonna get that crappy Saturday morning or Saturday
afternoon ESPN Flex wild Card game. You're gonna beat a
team that you're an underdog against because of it's been tradition,
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and then you're gonna play as the number four seed
against the number one seed and lose on the road.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Like that's where we are right now.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Well, I mean, if that's the case, then I would
say that probably the guys over in that building, they're
probably the ones that you throw out ten and seven.
They're like, oh man, no, that's not what we want
to be. But I mean, you know they've said all
the right things. I mean, you were out of practice
last week. I think so for rookie Mini camp, and
I mean I liked what Damiko Ryans said to the cookies,
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and I mean, I said at the time, he wasn't
just talking to the rookies, he was talking to everybody.
I mean of just like you know the things that
have gone on here. Winning the division is not enough.
Getting into the playoffs is not enough. Like we have
to have higher goals here in order to be able
to try to reach those I.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Don't disagree it's not enough.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
The problem is is that where do you find the
separation between the other contenders. That's where my brain always
continues to go, because it's not a CJ thing. CJ
had his moments last year that were great. He also
had his moments where he struggled. The Detroit game is
one that I will constantly throw out there.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
It was on CJ. It was a terrible second half.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
The two interceptions you cannot afford to have, especially when
you're up by eighteen. But you also can't afford to
have your quarterback running for his life like a chicken
with his head cut off for the entire second half
of the season. You can't afford to have the highest
payroll for an offensive line and give up the third
most sacks in the NFL, and it feels like that, Yeah,
(07:59):
you got rid of.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Some of the problems. Chris Strausser, he's out of a job.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Bobby Sloweck, best elect to you in South Beach, Nick
Kaylee walcome to the party.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You know how to utilize tight ends.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
Let's utilize what is Dalton Schaltz's contract to the fullest,
which again we could both eye roll on that one.
But do you feel like that the offensive line is
more improved? Do you feel like that you've taken the
necessary steps at the wide receiver position now with Tank
Dell gone, with Stefan Diggs gone, that you're still going
to be in that realm of hey, we're ten and seven,
but we're a good ten and seven. We talked about
(08:29):
this in college football all the time. Not every schedule
is the same. You and I complained like no one's
business about SMU not playing anybody, and then the second
that they did, what happened.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
They got eviscerated, Like.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
There were planes from Dallas flying out in the third
quarter from Happy Valley because if they just had a
sad time out in state college because they finally had
to play somebody.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Not every schedule is built the same.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
The Texans may end up finishing with the third best record,
but do you feel like that they're the third best
team in the AFC right now?
Speaker 6 (09:01):
I mean, just without completely knowing what Buffalo or you know,
Baltimore of at it or even the Charger or excuse me,
the Chiefs. You know, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm
just I'm being honest with you, Like you know, it's
one of those things that I mean, I have a
hard enough time being able to catch up with what's
happening on the college football level sure than to even
you know, remember, oh, yeah, hey, that's right, they added
this guy this soft season, or oh they lost that
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guy the soft season, like any of any of those things.
So I'm sure probably when we get closer to camp
then I'll know that. But I mean, at least we
know what times they're playing. We were joking yesterday that
we're surprised that you and Wex didn't do a schedule
re lease.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Special, believing I swear I thought that I was gonna
get called in like, hey, here we go. Always it's
Astros game. We don't have to worry about that, honest opinion.
After the draft, when you look at the Texas, how
much Bayer. Do you feel about them?
Speaker 6 (09:48):
I mean, I feel probably about the same. I mean,
it's exactly And Sewan asked me the same thing. I said,
it's easy. I did a call right after the draft
and somebody asked me, you know, do you think that
they're a much better team? I said, I think that
if their offensive line plays better. Sure, But I mean
that's that's the first and foremost and the only thing
(10:09):
is the offensive line. If it's not improved whatsoever, then
you're the exact same team that you were.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Is it bad that I said that the Texans didn't improve,
but I don't think anybody else in the division did either.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
No, No, yeah, I mean you were. I think you
were far and away better than any other team of
the division. I mean, the only thing that is kind
of a little bit of what could be an equalizer
is if finally you're able to unlock Trevor Lawrence. That's
about it. But aside from that, I don't see there
being any real competition for them in this division.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
And you're putting all the pressure on Liam Cohen to
duplicate the success that he had in Los Angeles with
matthe them what he had with Baker Mayfield. And by
the way, you don't have the same weaponry, you don't
have the same offensive line, you don't have the same defense,
and you also now are having final say, but the
Texans Los Angeles Week one, Buccaneers Week two, Jags Week three,
Titans week four, Week five at the Ravens bye week,
(11:02):
then Seattle Seahawks forty nine ers.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Back at home.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
Then the Denver Broncos come to town. You take on
Jacksonville week eleven at Tessee. In week twelve, Week thirteen,
Thursday Night football against the Buffalo Bills. Fourteen against the
Indianapolis Colts at Lucas Oil Stadium, back to back road chips,
going up against Kansas City in aarra awhead.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
That'll be the Sunday night game seven to twenty twelve. Seven.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Then you return home against the Arizona Cardinals Las Vegas
Raiders at Los Angeles when we don't know, and then
of course you close out the year no surprise, I
guess the divisional opponent in Indianapolis.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
So that's the schedule before you're right there. If you
missed it, well you know, I don't know what to
tell you. But anyway, cold Tom's staying with us this
morning here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
We do need to get into the Astros.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
We'll do that coming up, because some really good things
last night from the Hometown nine.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And also to something.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
That at least kind of scratched the itch of frustration
that you might have with them.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
We'll talk about that.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Also to the NBA playoffs rages on the Celtics keeping
their season alive to force a Game six against the
Knicks up in New York, and the Timberwolves say see
you later to the Golden State Warriors. But the Astros
conversation is on tap next and also about an hour
and fifteen from now, my good buddy Jared Sandler from
(12:20):
the Rangers Radio Network. Of course, the Lone Star Series
gets going, so we'll be talking that. Chris Gordy gonna
hop in here at nine o'clock. Here again, it is
Sean Salisbury's show. Cole Thompson in for Sean. It is
Sports Socks seven to ninety.
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Speaker 1 (13:44):
Let's go. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Last night's able to You know, one of the things, too, Cole,
that we've talked about is, you know, just with with
the offense this year, with this team and just trying
to be able to find a way to get those
guys going. And you know, we have Dana Brown on
every single week and he says the same thing. Hey,
you know, just wait till this team gets hot with
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the bats, and once they do that, then we can
reel off you know, so many wins in a row,
Like the Twins have just won ten in a row.
Cardinals just won what like, I mean nine of their
last ten, whether they shock. It's the John Gruden effect,
and I brought it up the other day. I've already
brought it up to members of the astros of saying, ay,
send him some gear because I mean that's Gruden's thing,
which I love. I love the Gruden uno because it's
(14:32):
just it's so funny, like how excited he gets, like
he gets a box from say Texas Tech, Oh, the
Texas Tech Red Raiders. Man, you know you got Danny
m Mondola. Spike Dikes was a great coach there. Oh
what a guy coached with my dad at one point.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You know what, man, you do it. You're doing a
great impression of him.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Man, I.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Do what again? Yeah, you're a hell of a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
But but see, I mean, you know, so wan't.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Sell me on Kent State an Owen twelve football team
to be excited about in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
But I mean, I've just said though that if you
want to get this team going well, then first do that.
And then I'm assuming he'll probably be over at n
RG for training camp. So if he's there, have.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Him dropped by.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
But then the problem was, and I thought about this
as well, how many guys in that clubhouse would actually
know who he is.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
I'll tell you what, man like you you send me
a Christian Walker Jersey, I'll put you back on top.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I'll get you in the right set of mind. I
won't tell you what I would think. He's a Jake
Myers guy.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Oh that he is a thousand percent of Jake Myers
dude like ros Ville Real might be the president of
the Jake Myers fan club, but like from a national perspective,
John Gruden is about a thousand with Jake Myers.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
And then and then another guy.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
We said, because Dubond's a big football guy, So we
said that du Bond would probably know who he is,
Chaz Jake would know who he is. Ers would know
who he is probably yeah, And then you know, I'm
just trying to think of like any of the pitchers.
That would not mean Hunter Brown would probably know who
he is.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
Steve Ochred seems like a dude that definitely would know
who grew Sure, I definitely Steven Okred feels like a barstoolboy.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
But where we were going is that, you know, the
the lineup, I mean, you know, they've had their fits
and starts this year. They've when it's been good, it's
been all right, Hey, that's that's pretty good. I mean,
you know the other night, you lose that game on
Saturday and you score nine runs, you score those six
runs in that one inning, and you're kind of like, hey,
like start putting together at bats like that, like you
don't have to get it all back at once and
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a lot of times you're trying to do too much.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You're gonna get nothing out of it at all.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Well, I said after the game the night before that
the Bats did enough to be able to win.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
But aren't you tired of saying that? Well? Sure, And
that's and that's the frustration that I have.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
And that's you know, what I brought up on Twitter
last night is that it's just kind of to the
point where this is beyond angering at this point where
you're just like the pitching staff is absolutely pitching out
of their mind for you and continuing to keep you
in games and give you opportunities to lose games.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
You're the reason you're losing games. That's the problem.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
And then last night, I mean, as soon as I
throw that out there, then they score the two runs
there in the eighth inning, Like I went a little
John Taffer on him. That's the problem. Like, that's pretty
much what I did.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Like, you know, I feel like they're a failing bar owner,
and I've got to come in there and I've got
to try to be able to find a way to
get them to turn their fortunes around.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Can you spot the difference here?
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Three point fifteen two fifty six, two sixty seven, two
oh eight, two thirty four, two forty two.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
What stands out about that? Uh, the three fifteen, I
know who it is. It's Jeremy Pania. You do know
how the two oait is. It's Christian Walker.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Why is he still in the four hole? Why two strikeouts?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Last night?
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Azer for four at the plate, a six twenty five
ops and you're talking about growth, like, yeah, it's two thirty.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Four for Yanu Diaz. I get that.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
You want to know what he's been in the last
ten games, nearly three hundred, Victor Karantini, what he's been
able to do with the plate. Jake Meyer's batting three hundred,
and you have runners in scoring position, and you're putting
a guy who, yes, we know what he is at
his peak can be a thirty thirty doubles home run
two seventy five batting average, but he's not being that
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right now. Like I get, the narrative is so redundantly
lazy when we're talking about jose A. Bray You and
Christian Walker. It's ridiculously bad. So stop doing it. Jose
Bray You was washed when he's signed here. Christian Walker
isn't but when you talk about change, you want to
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get change.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Make a change to the lineup.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
If you gotta move Christian Walker down, just to the
sixth spot until he's batting his weight by all means,
do so, because a quarantee, he's holding his own. Yiner
is holding his own, Jake Myers is holding his own.
And to be completely frank, they've earned the app bats,
they've earned the extra eighth inning runner on second, two
outs opportunity to score. Christian Walker is costing you runs.
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Christian Walker is the reason when we talk about these
bats waking up, you want.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
To see somebody else maybe wake up with the bat well.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
And it's not only you know, moving him down. I
mean here, and let me give you these six seventy
seven one one three thirty three ops. And that's a
couple of games that he's batted third, the nine games
that he's batted in the five spot three thirty three
with a one oho nine to nine ops. So there's
proof that it doesn't work. It's just it's at this
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point it's stubbornness. I mean, there there is no other
way to say it. Oh, he's gonna get going, He's
gonna get and then My response is based off what
because the numbers clearly tell you right now that he's
not going to get going in that spot. And I understand, Oh, well,
you know, once we get jord on back, then of
course we can reconfigure the lineup.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Do it before?
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Okay, well, once you get Spencer Arraghetti back, we can
have a problem when it comes to the pitching rotation.
There you go, stop complaining about when somebody gets back,
start doing with what you know.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
You don't know when Jordon's coming back.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
So if you don't know when you're getting one of
your better hitters at the plate, and you have a
secondary option, whether it be Yiner, whether it be Krotini,
whether it be Shake Myers, who would Again, he may
not have a huge ops difference, but at least he's
making contact with the ball and landing in the right
spots to when a.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Runner is on.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
It gives you an opportunity to score more. And it
forced his managers to have to play the mind game
of especially Layton innings, what do I.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Do with my bullpen?
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Do I stay and leave a guy out there for
an extra pitch and that ends up costing me with
a three run homer or do I go to the
pen and make a change. But when you have a
guy like Christian Walker right now batting in that four hole,
and let's just say Esach Perettis, who again, we knew
he was gonna be a good fine for Houston. He's
been crushing it in the last week and a half.
He gets on base, it automatically costs you. You know
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that you're not advancing Esak and it's not because of
his speed, like something about the number fifteen and an
Astros player. You know, he's going to be probably one
of the slowest guys on the field at all times.
But it's because of who's at the plate, not who's
standing up first.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Well, I mean, and that's the thing. I mean, you
know last night where Parretis lines out the third, I
still was like, well, you kind of did yourself a
favor because I mean, you're gonna be in that situation.
It's two outs, runner on second and Christian Walker's up
the plate, and you know what's going to happen, Like name,
this isn't this isn't a bang on Christian Walker thing either,
Like I want the guy to do well. It's kind
of the similar thing of you know, Taylor Scott. I
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mean last you know, yesterday the news that came out
about him being DFA, that that was a legitimate response.
Like I wanted the guy to be able to figure
it out. I wanted him to be able to turn
it around. And clearly the Astros, just with where they
are on the schedule and where they are a roster
configuration wise, they said, all right, we can't keep the
sky around. Sorry, you get a chance to catch on
somewhere else. But like with Walker, I mean one with
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a four forty six ops, like you've got thirty games
to the eleven that you have in the other spots.
Eleven games is enough of a sample size to say, hey,
this guy's comfortable batting pretty much anywhere else than right here.
The example that I bring up is remember back in
the late nineties Derek Bell, where they would bat him
seven at a certain point. I was five, but yeah, okay,
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so anyway, you know Derek Bell, they would bat him seven,
and I mean he would go through his struggles and
then they'd bat him in the two spots. And he
finally went to Larry Derker and said that's my spot,
like keep me right there, Like that's where I feel
like I get the best pitches for me. That's where
I feel like I can cause the most damage. Like
that's where I need to be. I just I feel
like I'm best in that spot in the order. Yeah,
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I'm not saying that Walker's going, you know, needs to
do that with Joe a Spota, But it's just like,
my god, like do you not have the numbers in
front of you to finally say, hey, maybe cleanup is
not his spots?
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Hey, I got a phone for you. Jeremy Pangan last
year was batt in about two forty two in the
six hole. He's batten three to fifteen leadoff. I think
something is working, Joe. I think something might have changed
to where you're in a pretty good position knowing that
number three is gonna get on base at least twice again.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Well last night it was four times a game and
he was the reason he won that game. So that
was the fun thing. But oh my god, I want.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
To pay him right now.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
I see that's yeah, that's that's That's another conversation we
can have here and probably will here as the course
of the morning goes. Wood see you right there. I
know we got into some Texans you know what the
rules are. If we've talked about it, it's fair games.
So we'll get you involved in the conversation also too
well to let you hear a little bit from Colton
Gordon who last night he impressed me a little bit,
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so we'll absolutely do that as we continue both the
Texans and Astros conversation. Here it is a Sean Salisbury
Show again. Sean out today, tomorrow and next week. Cole
Thompson in for him. This morning. It is the Sean
Salisbury Show. Sports Talk seven ninety. The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
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But what on the north side. Want's talk a little
Texans wood? What's going on?
Speaker 9 (23:45):
Yeah, man, I looked at the scarecrow and we go
go nine and eight. The biggest problem we have is
that we no longer have a bookend or on that
blind side to protect CJ. We already knew we had
problems with them coming up the mill, but now they're
gonna come everywhere because the best tackle, the best player
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offensive line that we have is Howard to big Howard,
you know, and then we're moving him back and forth
from left guard to right tackle, you know, and then
everybody else that Nick Caserio then brought in here has
been a project. Nick Caserio has proven one thing to
me that he cannot put an offensive line together. And
that's been our biggest weakness the last four years. Even
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before CJ got here, you know, Davis Mills was getting
killed because we didn't have a proper defensive line. All
we had was one defensive tackle on that left side
that can block everybody else. We rotate in, we try
to plug somebody in, and it's just been an issue.
And now we're going with a whole new lineup on
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the offensive line that a project. This is not promising,
This this is not gonna be a good year for TJ.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
I hope we don't get hurt, but pause.
Speaker 9 (24:58):
All the players.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Teams we have to play.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
Such as Buffalo, Kansas City, the Rams, Tampa Bay, I
mean Baltimore. You know, the vision is not the proper
is one. Once we go outside out of the vision,
once we start playing these playoff teams, that's gonna be
the issue. That's what's gonna get us killed on that defense.
But the defensive players coming in on that offensive line
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and they're not gonna be able to protect CJ.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
And we're gonna have issues, and I'm hoping we go.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Nine to eight. I appreciate the call, would I mean
about you really feel well?
Speaker 8 (25:32):
Well?
Speaker 6 (25:32):
The one that cracks me up is the if CJ
gets hurt, we're screwed.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
Of course, you lose your starting quarterback. Yes, your season's done.
You mean that every team in the NFL loses its
starting quarterback, they have to start preparing for the offseason.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Shocker?
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Well, I mean, And the thing I will agree with
them on is I've had my doubts about Nick Assario
with the offensive line. I feel like that every single executive,
no matter how good they are, everybody has a blind spot.
Like you know, Cole, you know that I used to
work in another place and Tom Mitrov was the GM there.
He could never find an edge rusher.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
He his great hair, can't find it an ed drusher.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
But I mean he was really good at being able
to find guys in the secondary. He would build a
good roster. It's just every single time it was okay,
hey is this the guy? And it was also too
where it was he kept taking these undersized guys thinking like, oh, well,
you know this guy's gonna be different than the other guy.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
No, they're not.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
They're gonna be the exact same. And Vic Beasley, he'll
have a good year when he's got Dwight Freeny there.
But aside from that, no, he's not gonna have that.
But most of the people in the audience don't care
about that example. But the point is, though with Casario,
I mean, who can you point to as being a
good offensive line signing or trade for or anybody that
he's gotten so far.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
George Fant, you could.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
Say Shaq Mason, You're one, because Shaq Mason year one
was probably the most stable and consistent offensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
The problem was he aged overnight.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
You saw him turn thirty one, and he started to
act like a thirty one year old that doesn't work out,
that doesn't end up having taken care of his taking
care of body, and its end up going to the gym,
doesn't end up eating right like He aged within a
span of thirteen months from being a quality guard to
an actual liability, so much so that when he went
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on the IR and came back, they were having conversations.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Do we really want this guy out here? Do we
really want him?
Speaker 6 (27:19):
They shouldn't have played him in Kansas City as soon
as soon as I saw that, I was just like
kind of like we were just talking about with Christian Walker.
I mean, it's stubbornness can get in your way. Oh well,
he's earned this spot. Oh you know, he's one of
the guys that got.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
It scatter Kenyon Green. And that's the problem.
Speaker 7 (27:33):
Here's something that I will say, and maybe it's me
being a bit bullish on Nick Cassio, and I hate
that I have to say this, but I'm actually kind
of intrigued to see how this offensive line is gonna
be built this year because it's not through the draft,
because of what do we know? Nick Cassio and the
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Texans cannot evaluate offensive line prospects. They can't because if
you and I could look in twenty twenty two and say,
there's an All Pro center in the works by the
name with Tyler Linderbaum that's still on the board coming
out of Iowa, Iowa does a pretty good job of
developing offensive lineman. Look at the laundry list of names
of the last two decades who would become fixtures of
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the NFL. Sure, Oh but but sec football Texas A
and M right there, homegrown talent right there, let's go
ahead and get the guy that strode in pass pro
against SEC competition, no problem whatsoever when he makes the
jump to the NFL. Okay, we knew right then and
there Kenyan Green was already in over his head. But
you didn't really draft this year. You went him out
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it in free agency. Now, I'm not saying that ed
Ingram is going to be a stable option. If anything,
he is going to be what is your sixth offensive lineman,
But you didn't use a draft pick on him to
where he's here for the next four years, and you
know if you can pay him out. Cam Robinson is
here for one year. It's a one year up to
fourteen million dollar contract.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
It may end up being eight games.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Until Arion's is ready. But if those eight games are
profitable enough to where CJ is finding a rhythm with
his wide receivers, CJ is finding a connectivity on what
works in Nick Kayley's offense, I'll want to pay for it.
Titus Howard, can we please do the smart thing this
year and move him into guard? Because of nobody wins
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when you have to wonder, hey, what position is he
playing this week? It's the spin the wheel on Titus
Howard and it always ends up coming up short. So
I'm kind of excited because of you're not using this
draft capital. Nick Cassio can draft defense backs. Nick Casserio
finds Day two steals Gems, Nico Collins, Jalen Petrie, Christian
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Harris had his moments. You talk about Tank Dell, Kaylon
Billock last year another Day two selection, Round three.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
He finds ways to do it. He drafted one offensive lineman.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
If you get quality played from tay Ersary over the
next four years, I'll call that a win.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
And maybe one of these free agents wh you hit
just one.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
I'm not asking for the entire board to swing in
favor a block for CJ.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Shot.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
I'm asking for one guy to be better than what
we saw last season Shack Mason and Keny and green Well.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
And the one thing too that I just can't get
out of my head with all of this is retaining
Kole Popovich and promoting him, Like that's the part to
me that I didn't really understand. I get it also
from the standpoint of there's familiarity with he and Nick
Kyley from their time in New England, all of that
kind of stuff, But like when you had a group
that was as poor as it was last year.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Sure, and you have a.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Group that I mean, you know there were at least
the thoughts that maybe there was a little bit of
dysfunction in that group. Whatever, All right, maybe you got
rid of some of the guys because you know, they
were the ones that weren't necessarily doing what was needed
in order to make sure that group was playing up
to the level that you hope they could. I mean,
you got rid of an all pro passage, But then
why would you not go outside the building to get
another voice for that group? Because of Nick Kayley and
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his relationship from New England, which unfortunately means in my opinion,
his relationship and Nick who wants to have control. That's
what it comes down to, and it's frustrating because if
I agree with you, why are you doing an internal
promotion at a position that was a weak point and
truly was the reason you lost the division round. I
don't think enough people pay attention to how horrendous that
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offensive line was on third and fourth down, because if
you connect twice, take away the careless penalties and the
conversations of oh well, Nick, you know the the NFL
needs patch Mahome on Prime Time because if they give
that hit to Will Anderson Junior, you gave up fourteen
pressures in six sacs on third and fourth down.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Nobody's went in that game.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
I I'm just glad that we don't get the dissertation
anymore on Wednesdays from uh Bobby Slowick. He seriously looked
like a guy up there that like the teacher called
on in class and you could clearly tell they didn't
read the assignment. Like you can eat Like that's seriously
every single you know question you asked him in I
Understean and he can't give things away.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
All that's your way through society, dude.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
It just was like every single week of you know, hey,
how can you guys run the ball better? Well, you know,
on the first down if we do this, blah blah blah.
It's just like that's not what I'm asking dude. Just
say how you can run the football better? That's all
you have to do.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I mean, welcome to Texans media.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
Every single day you go and asking a question, you
get another answer in return.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Wow, that's it, like like that's the norm.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Though.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
It's like I can't even be mad at Bobby when
you can't get a straight answer from anybody else the building.
He's just being told what to say, how to say it,
and how to smile.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Well, what I really would glean from it usually whenever
he would talk, was oh, you don't know what you're doing,
do you?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Oh? He knew what he was doing.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
He knew what he was doing, and it was always
gonna end with him get leaving in the off season.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
That was the problem.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Like that was it is that I think everybody knew
days were numbered, whether it be because of his ineptitude
or because of CJ.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Want somebody else calm plays. Maybe it ends up working out, though.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Well you know, I mean soon enough, you would think
somebody would say, hey, let's figure out how to stop
these twists and stunts. And well they never really figured
out how to stop those twists and stunts. And that's
why he's in Miami and that's why Nick Haley is
now the OC for this team. So anyway, like I said,
if some of you out there got some textans thoughts,
we'll weave those in as the show goes along. Do
you want to get back into the astros though? Because
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Colton Gordon impressive last night and I think even more
impressive after the game. Let you hear from him here
on at the Sean Salisbury Show. He is Cole Thompson
in for Shawn Dan, Matthew Stewart here with you also
Triple Emmanuel Elmore. This is Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
We're gonna have to turn this matter over to Sean
oh no more Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
As promised, let's hear from Colton Gordon after that start
last night, and you know he was able to go
four and a third, he gives up those three runs,
two of them you know on him as Sean dub
been able to come in. Great workout of him, but
he gives up that run that he had on base
there at second. But four and a third, seven hits
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three yarned runs, striking out three.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
And walking two.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I mean, all in all, an impressive outing from him,
but you know it's also to a lot to be
able to grow from. And that is exactly what Gordon
talked about after the game.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
First of all, really glad we won. I mean that
always helps everything.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Obviously obviously we're going to improve.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
But overall, first outing, I start checklessing in and give
us a chance to.
Speaker 11 (34:26):
Win at the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yeah, I mean everything he said was true.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
I mean where you know, the number one rule of
a spot starter is don't completely let the thing fall
off the tracks. But we're not asking you to be perfect.
We're just asking you to give us a chance to
be able to win the game. And that's exactly what
he did last night. Of you have a bullpen who
a couple of days ago had to be able to
piece things together with Ryan Gusto's rough start, and that's
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a couple of days removed from you know, having to
fill up eight and two thirds innings on the mound
like they had to against the Reds the night before,
with you know that, with Lance McCullers having the struggle
that he had, it was not good.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
And I was there for that was brutal. That was
hard to watch in person.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
I was gonna say, yeah, I've been the games like
that before where it's just like hmm, all right, so
you know, do I go ahead and leave now, or
do I, you know, maybe somewhat hope that this game
could be somewhat competitive, which the Astros were able to do.
I mean, that's the good thing. But I mean, I
mentioned Sean Duban. He was great last night for them.
An inning in two thirds, you get an inning at
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a calable or it's Brian King. I mean, just work
in stylence, man. I mean, that's pretty much what Brian
King has done. Is they've you know, now made him
the seventh inning guy, and he's been able to make
the most of his opportunities and done incredibly well in
the seventh inning. And he got the eighth last nights.
And then it sets up Josh Hater, who, by the way,
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I think we can agree that fresh Josh Hater is
the best.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Josh Hater. I'll take that ten times.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Comes in there last night, and I mean the two
or the a one that he threw to Bobby wit Junior.
I mean you could even hear the crowd after the
pop of the mitt, like it was kind of like,
oh man, he threw that one. It's different, It's it's
completely there.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
Like I remember when they signed Josh Hater and I
was saying, if they get the version of him of
twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen, Milwaukee, here's just thatslalling down.
Because if all you have to do is have a
one run lead going into the ninth inning.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Games over. He was lights out.
Speaker 7 (36:29):
If I get that version, fourteen pitches, ten of them strikes,
and I'm working two to one counts or a one
to two counts in my favor, game's over. I mean,
his fastball is so ridiculous, his off speed is phenomenal.
And the way that he's able to work the count
in his favor, and the way that he's able to
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manipulate batters, especially guys like Bobby Wood Junior group, who
for my money right now is probably the second or
third best hitter in baseball.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
And you know that he's just gonna buil it by you.
It's over. It's over.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
It still infuriates me that the former regime gave him
up for Carlos Gomez.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
I still am not over that. I don't think I've
ever told you the story.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
When I was working in New York and the trade
deadline came around, and I remember watching I was so
big in the minor leagues at the time, and just
seeing the farm system and where they were growing and Houston.
The two players I was begging they weren't going to
trade was Jake Mrisnik. For some reason, I don't know
why at this point you should have let him go.
And Josh Hater and I see on my phone right
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as soon as the deadline, you're right the like it's
like three p fifty nine fifty eight and it says
Carlos gomeas the Ashos all right, Jake Murriers think it
was fun. Oh no, Jake Burris is out in the deal,
but Josh Hater is. I audibly lost my mind. The
person that I was working for, I think, had to
calm me down.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
And say, just take a line. Just I knew he
was gonna be good.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
I knew Josh Hateren was gonna be something in low
and behold, now I have to pay him all this
money to keep him around.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
Well, I mean that's not even the one that gets
me most recently is you know Robert Ford kind of
almost sent me into a slight rage the other night
Disdained Dan almost came out for it of bringing up
the Christian Vasquez trade and William.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Or Bray you now being in the middle of the order.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
Guy for the Red Sox and you're like, huh, outfield troubles,
trying to find, you know, guys that can be able
to produce out there and you had that guy and
you're right, yeah, exactly exactly, So that was the one.
And then you bring Christian Vasquez here and you barely
even use them, so that was even more fun. So anyway,
you live and you learn, I guess, but a little
bit more from Gordon after last night's starts. You know,
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it's one of those that you got all day to
be able to think about your major league debut.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
So how did he handle it?
Speaker 10 (38:39):
I want to say nervous, I'd say fired up. I
mean I was like all day, I was just you know,
it's one of those days where you don't need any
caffeine or anything to just be like ready to wake.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Up and attack the day.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
And so yeah, I was.
Speaker 10 (38:51):
I was, like Julius says, having to hear the first
one out of the way, first strike out and get
my feet there anything.
Speaker 6 (38:56):
There, and one more from him to where the second
inning you get up a couple of those runs, but
still able to battle through it.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
It was for sure a battle.
Speaker 10 (39:04):
Uh some pitches that I thought I could have been
executed better, and then and then after that, I'm just
happy with, you know, limiting damage slip. Never want to
give up a run, you know, the goal was never
to do that, but Spaseball's going to happen, and again,
given our team a.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Chance to win and staying in it was was huge.
And that's kind of what I'm about as a pitcher.
Speaker 10 (39:25):
I mean, every time I go out there, I want
to leave with the game in range of us, you know,
either winning or coming about to win.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
And able to do that last night. So all in all,
good stuff out of him. I mean, again, we talked
about it in one of the couple of segments ago
that the pitching not the problem for this team. I
mean there are times like you know how there's that
that meme out there of the three headed dragon. Yeah,
and I've said that, you know, starting pitching bullpen, Well,
they're the strong looking dragons and then you get the
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third one and sometimes that's your lineup.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Is that your line up?
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Larly?
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (39:56):
Okay, are you excited for this pitching goal that we're
going to see over the next four days Arlington?
Speaker 4 (40:00):
We gunna say is tonight the hunter Brown? And it is.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
I'm trying to remember if it's him against Avaldi or
if it's him against the Grom. I haven't looked at
what the pitching rotation is for that. But I mean
I know that one of those nights you're gonna get them,
and that's one that I'm like, oh yeah, I'm I'm
gonna be.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
In front of the TV for that one. Hunter Brown
takes on Jake up the ground.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
All right, there we go tonight. So starting pitching good
for the Rangers. The bullpen a little bit of a
struggle for him. But anyway, we'll talk that much more
with Jared Sandler here in about thirty minutes. But is
it time to start thinking this about certain astros?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
What this is?
Speaker 6 (40:37):
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Speaker 6 (42:53):
A couple of runs there in the eighth to do
it and they win the series. Celtic's able to keep
the season alive against the Knicks. Game six is going
to be in New York, the but the Timberwolves bouncing
the Warriors in five games and the Texans going to
open up the season on the road against the Rams
September the seventh and four national TV games this year
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for the Texans. As I mentioned, Cole in with us
Jared Sandler from the Rangers Radio network. He's going to
join us here in about twenty five minutes or so.
As we'll get into the lone Star series with him.
But you know, Cole, it's about that time of the year.
And remember back when you were a kid. Yeah, they
Well I was going to say for you it is,
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but for me, for me not so much. But you
know it's another story. But they had the ballots there,
you know, at the top of the stairs where whatever
section you sat in, like the old astronome.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
I actually do remember that. I remember they had that.
My dad would always have a pin on him.
Speaker 6 (43:48):
So I'm like dag going to brow the pen and
you know, I punch out my holes for who I
wanted to be an All Star?
Speaker 4 (43:53):
And are you one of those people that so does
the box score when you're sitting down.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
Yeah, I do want to go to games. Yeah, like
when I sit in the press box for sure.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Especially Mad does it too. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
Last time we went on Saturday, he forgot a pen.
He was complaining NonStop. He was complaining the entire walkway
up through that he had a spending dollar fifty on
a pencil.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
Well, well, I mean, look, you know you got to
be able to show up ready for work, right, you're
not prepared.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
Back to the ballance, what we were talking about that said.
Speaker 6 (44:21):
So, I mean, you know, All Star voting is gonna
be coming up, and you know certain guys aren't, you know,
on the ballot for it. You know, it's picked by
the manager or whoever that is. But we could be
talking about an ASTROS team, and I think a lot
of it also continues on how do they play, how
did these guys perform?
Speaker 4 (44:37):
All of that.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
I thought about it this morning. Three all stars on
this team right now. Jeremy PanAm yep, that was one,
Hunter Brown, yep. Jake Myers, Josh Hater Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 7 (44:47):
Yeah, okay, I'm going to go too, because of the
problem is is that, you know, simply based off of votes,
Jeremy Pang is not going to get enough, at least
from the starting position. Josh Hayter's your closer, Hunter Brown's
your starting pitcher. And I don't think many people in
the American League would argue if those two made the
roster it's warranted. The problem is is that we live
in a society where fandom plays a bigger role than production.
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Bobby Wood Junior not only has production, but he has fandom.
You also the throw in Gunnar Henderson, who is struggling
right now, He's finally gotten back on pace. Yesterday he
had what was he three for nine four RBIs had
a home run in the series against Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
He still is an MVP candidate. He's gonna get in.
Speaker 7 (45:29):
Then you gotta throw in what do you have in
Boston with Trevor Story. Boston's got a bigger market. They're
gonna go ahead and vote him in. You gotta throw
in what you got with Anthony Volpi out in New York.
They're gonna throw him in. His Carl's career gonna be
more popular in the public eye than Jeremy Panya, So
numbers aside what you're hoping for. What Panya is, he
shows you enough where the manager who is going to
be Aaron Boone this year, he's going to make a
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decision that.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Will put him in the All Star Game. That's what
you're hoping for at this point.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
Yeah, And I mean, you know with some of those
other guys, I mean, I've talked about it, with the
way that a Hunter Brown has pitched and the guy
that he just faced a couple of days ago, Chris Bubach.
He's another guy, Trek Scubale. I mean, obviously he's up there. Although,
how about Alex Bregman last night? You know, able to
get after school ball a little bit and then you
got Scooble chirping him in the dugout and they're kind
of going back and forth.
Speaker 7 (46:16):
After school was a menace, dude. Did you see him
a couple of days ago when he went up against
a zach Netto. So he and zach Netto got into
it so much so that both bullpens left the stands
and went to the mill and schoobl actually apologized afterwards.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
He was so frustrated himself.
Speaker 7 (46:32):
I was like, guys, I'm just chirping, like, I'm just saying,
look at me, and how good I am as a pitcher.
After zach Netto nuked a solo shot in the first
ending off me, and now we get the bullpens about
ready to go brawl Like that was literally it.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
Scooble's a psycho.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
I love it, well, I mean, it's it is nice
to see personalities in the game. I mean, I do
appreciate that, and you know, you get things like that.
It's fun for the fans. And you know, baseball fights
are always the funny to me because there never truly fights.
Maybe somebody will throw half a shove in there, but
aside from that, it's just a bunch of standing around.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
You love when the bullpens come out.
Speaker 6 (47:09):
I mean it's it's more or less. I think it's
kind of a you know it. It energizes them. That's
where the show begins, where they're just kind of like,
you know, well, if they're all out there, then we
need to be out there too, because that is the
rules in baseball.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
The bench is clear, you're part of it.
Speaker 7 (47:23):
Yeah here, okay, But why does the arguments start at
the mound and not when both of you are running
out of the exact same time in the outfield. Like
that's where I always laugh at it, because they like
both are looking at each other. Hold up, not yet,
not yet, another one hundred feet before we can actually
get in each other's face.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
No, no, no, how's your day? Everything going good? What's
up with the wife? The kids? Okay, now we're at
home plate kind of brawl.
Speaker 7 (47:44):
Like that's the feel that I can't stand because it's
like never in a fight which you see that happen.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
The respect factor until you touch.
Speaker 6 (47:51):
The one wow, because then you also, you know, you
get the catcher involved, you get the coaches, then getting
out there and getting in between everybody, the umpires. I mean,
it finally reaches a point where where it's like, hey, look,
I don't want to get hurt. You don't want to
get hurt. Nobody needs to throw a punch.
Speaker 13 (48:04):
You know.
Speaker 6 (48:04):
It's kind of like bull Durham. Do you hit me
with your left or do you hit me with your right? Yeah,
you never hit a drunk with your pitching hand. What's
the matter with you? You know, that's it's it's kind of
one of those things. It's it's career preservation. But back
to the all start talk. I mean, at least two
is what I settled on. Of Hunter Brown and Josh Hater.
They can they continue on the path they're on Hunter
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Brown or you know, Hunter Brown, as good as he's been,
it's one of those where you wonder where that rough
outing is going to be. And maybe it's kind of
like what you know you did against Boobage up there
in Kansas City. If that's his rough outing of Hey,
he went five innings, he gave up four runs. It's
not great by his standards, but you're still like, okay, well,
I mean still have a chance to be able to
win this game.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
That's good enough.
Speaker 7 (48:46):
Do you still have a one to fifty ra If
he does, then he's the starting you're the starting pitcher.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (48:51):
I mean that that should be the end of conversation.
And I get it because you're going into this Ranger
series with three guys who currently have an ERA under
two point seven, but still single handedly pound for pound
when you're watching Hunter Brown pitch, is there anybody more
mes verizing than fifty nine on the mount fifty eight
on the mountain.
Speaker 6 (49:09):
That's just I mean, it's fun just because of the fastball,
and I mean how he's you know, he's not afraid
to go after anybody, and finally too once he figured out,
oh hey, the inside of the plate's mine. Okay, well
then I'll start taking the inside of the plate and
that's when things started to change.
Speaker 7 (49:23):
It should I mean, again, as much as you're watching
what Max Free is doing, as much as you're watching
what Tyler Mally's doing, as much you're watching the resurgence
somewhat of Jacob deGrom. You're at an O two count
and you hit the inside corner, game over, I mean
like that, like it's almost written like I hate when
people say, oh, write it impermenating, no tat to it
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on your face if you have to, oh, two count
two seam fastball, inside corner, game over.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
That's under Brown right now. It's fun to watch.
Speaker 6 (49:52):
And definitely the guy that I mean, I've said at
numerous times he's the ace of your staff right now,
despite what Frober's been able to give you in the
last couple of outings. And I mean, you know, for
the rest of the team too, of you know, trying
to figure out what do you have in Spencer Arraghetty,
what do you have in Renel Blanco? And you know,
I guess we'll wait and see what happens with Hayden
was nesky, Although didn't you point out that maybe a
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little bit of the cat was.
Speaker 7 (50:13):
Let out the battle of last night? Did somebody say
something they weren't supposed to say? If you were listening
to broadcast Todd Kallis, I think it was during the
second inning talking about Spencer Raghetty talking about eventually he'll
work his way back in the mound. But Hayden was
asky done for the year? Who's to say again? That
is kind of what I think many people expected at
this point. You hear shorter, you hear elbow, you hear
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any one of those things. It doesn't sound good. It
does feel like that. Now we're gonna get an answer
pretty soon on what's going on with Hay was asking, Yeah,
it's a bummer.
Speaker 6 (50:46):
Well, I mean that's that's another story too, when it
comes to the astros with injuries, like you know, I
saw Ross was there yesterday, posts some videos and you
know Joe Aspota, Oh, Jordon's close, Jordon is close.
Speaker 4 (50:57):
It's just like, but what does that mean?
Speaker 5 (50:58):
See?
Speaker 6 (50:59):
And that's exactly like they're intentionally vague about intries and provocative. Well, no,
it's not provoding. If it's annoying, is what it is.
I mean, where it's you know, oh, they've got this comfort.
Oh they're gonna be day to day, and then two
months later it's like, oh where are they?
Speaker 4 (51:13):
Do you remember who was it?
Speaker 7 (51:14):
Uh not Aaron Judge, Oh it's John Carlos saying right
now everyone's talking about how, oh he's getting close. Well
what is close? Is close two months away? Or is
close two hours away? It's like you know what, like
you're doing the directions close by and then thirty minutes later,
your buddy shows up. Oh, sitting in traffic, I can
track you. Nobody sits in traffic that long.
Speaker 6 (51:35):
Well, I mean they do if you have the situation
I had to stay where a train decided, Oh hey,
I'm just gonna stop right here in this intersection.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
Oh thanks, that's awesome. Six time.
Speaker 6 (51:45):
What was it the YI no up in Imperial Oaks, Yeah,
where we live, And yeah, I just decided right there
Hannah Road and Robinson Road. Just decided, yeah, hey, I'm
gonna stop right here, right in the middle of rush hour. Yeah, thanks, Bud,
appreciate that. And forty five minutes later only got home.
But you know that's my situation. Nobody else needs to
worry about that.
Speaker 5 (52:04):
All right?
Speaker 6 (52:04):
What are the hottest what are the hardest jobs in America?
And are we doing those jobs right now? Maybe you
have those jobs anyway, we'll discuss right here. It is
Sean Salisbury Show. This is the Sewn Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
And his name is sure Sean Really.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Were on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?
Speaker 1 (52:32):
The Salisbury takeouts? Salsbury takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (52:40):
It is sewn Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety Cole
Thompson in for Sean Astros come back to beat the
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the Knicks. The Timberwolves bounce the Warriors in five games.
But hardest jobs to do, toughest ones out there. I mean,
I'm sure that we probably have some, at least on
our minds right now where I mean you think about it.
First responder jobs, cops, firefighters. Yeah, that's that's up there.
Speaker 7 (53:18):
Roofing as a redhead in the summer months in the
Southeastern region.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
That's not a job. That's just more or less just
like what you have to deal with. You have to
be a roofer in the Southeastern region. So roofing. I
thought you said riffing.
Speaker 7 (53:30):
No, roofing as a redhead in the Southeastern region, gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 4 (53:33):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (53:34):
Got Like I go outside for five minutes, I automatically burn.
Like I have to wear SPS seventy at all times.
Imagine being able to do that job twenty four hours,
three sixty five, seven days a week, ninety nine degrees.
It means to be like one O two today. Right,
So the twenty.
Speaker 6 (53:51):
Hardest jobs in America to do, according to the Bosh
Power Tools and Talker research, which I mean, all right, fine,
take their word for it.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
Roofer was number twelve. Depends on where you are. Think
about it.
Speaker 7 (54:05):
If you're in the if you're in the northeastern region,
sixty five degrees, got nice little breeze coming on in
for the harbor, feels pretty nice.
Speaker 4 (54:12):
I'm good.
Speaker 7 (54:13):
I'm not gonna be complaining. You do it down in Dallas, Texas,
or in Austin or in Houston. Was gonna say here,
you're dead. I mean, like, it probably takes you three
times long to do the job because you have to
stop and breathecause you don't want to have a heat stroke.
Speaker 6 (54:25):
Well it's not only that, I mean it's also I
mean for houses, like if you're working on like a
two three story house, you know, slanted roof, Yeah, I
mean it's one of those. You get the heat involved,
all of that kind of stuff. Maybe you kind of
forget where you are and you have one false step
and it came over. I was gonna say, well yeah
at that point, I mean, that's That's the one thing too,
is like we had our roof done last year and
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we got a two story house, and you know, that
was one of the things that I was thinking of
with those guys up there. It's I was like, dude, like,
are they like I even asked their guy. I was like,
I was like, are they tied down or anything? And
he was like, no, no, He's like, they're good, they'll they'll.
Speaker 4 (54:57):
Be all right.
Speaker 6 (54:58):
You know, they've they've got like whatever at the bottom
of their shoe, like to you know, keep.
Speaker 4 (55:01):
Them in place.
Speaker 6 (55:02):
And I was just like, man, I don't know if
I would trust that. But number one on the list
was firefighter.
Speaker 7 (55:07):
Okay, I mean that's fair to be fair as much
as Coop I think deserves as much as respect. You're
walking into a place to where you could be burned alive,
that easily is number one.
Speaker 6 (55:20):
Well it's not only that, it's also too I mean,
you know we see it all the time that an
accident on the freeway, you know they're gonna block off
the freeway, do all that kind of stuff, maybe the
cars on fire, whatever, it might be, so there's many
different things. I get that. It's number two for me.
While I don't doubt how hard the work is.
Speaker 7 (55:40):
Construction worker, I'd probably moved down to ten eleven.
Speaker 6 (55:45):
I was gonna say, I mean, if you're gonna have
roofer right there, an electrician and homebuilder, A thirteen and fourteen.
Speaker 4 (55:50):
It's all in the same category. Why not just have it?
Speaker 7 (55:53):
Hey, you progress up. It's like Pokemon, you evolved the
next line.
Speaker 6 (55:56):
Here's one that I think is underrated because people don't
necessarily think about it because you're not the one building
it or any of these things.
Speaker 4 (56:03):
Engineer, like, you get.
Speaker 6 (56:05):
One small detail wrong on that, and I think architect
probably needs to be on there too, because you get
one small detail wrong structurally and things falls apart.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
Architecture.
Speaker 7 (56:14):
I agree with you, it probably should be higher. Engineer
depends on you have to name what it is. Are
you a space engineer, you a civil engineer, you're a
chemical engineer? Yeah, because every single level is different. It's
like every single type of Pokemon out there. I've already
mentioned it twice now, so I don't know why Pokemon's
on my mind today, but still, every single level is
completely different when it comes to how you go about it.
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A space engineer is completely unique compared to what you
go to do as a chemical engineer. You maybe are
not going to get the right formula, but you also
have to realize it's not a life or death situation
where a space engineer who's working on the trajectory of
the spin rate, you spin one spot out of line,
You're flying throughout space to the next millennium.
Speaker 6 (56:53):
It's like, you know, at the old Kyle Field, well,
I mean it's still Kyle Field, but like the old
press box that they had there, they used to have
a sign that said the press box will shake when
they start doing the AGGI war HM does well. And
you know, you start to feel that because I mean,
you got one hundred thousand people staying back and forth
all of that. But then I remembered thinking to myself,
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I was like, oh, we're good. I'm at a school
of engineers, like they like they they know what they do. Yeah,
I was gonna say, they they've got this lick, They're
they're good to go with this.
Speaker 4 (57:21):
It's fine. Number three is military.
Speaker 7 (57:25):
Psychologically, I can say you can probably say I almost
feel like it needs to be higher for everything that
you got to deal with. Because if it's the post reaction,
like when you get out of the military, I think
that that's the side effect that you don't throw in
that probably deserves a little bit more respect to where
you put at number two.
Speaker 6 (57:39):
Number one, I go say, I mean you literally are
knowing that you're joining with the chance that hm, I
probably won't come out the same way.
Speaker 7 (57:47):
I think ninety nine point nine percent of the time,
unless you're working in the cafeteria, you're not coming out
the same way. Plus you don't know what you're serving
back there. That also is probably going to change the
way you look at.
Speaker 6 (57:56):
Things, especially two current times. Police officer needs to be higher.
Speaker 4 (57:59):
So what's number four? Doctor?
Speaker 7 (58:03):
Okay again, are we talking ear nose and throw a?
We talking brain surgeon? Like, can we get categories with these?
Because of much like when you say with an engineer,
you make one small incision in the wrong spot, I
forget what the color blue is and ear knows the
throat here, take this mess and call me tomorrow morning.
Speaker 4 (58:21):
Take two pills. We're fine. It's a little different, YEA.
Speaker 6 (58:24):
I went to an E and T once and they
they they seriously sent me out like with a bag
that basically looked like you know, I was almost a
dealer at that point, like where I was just like,
I have to take all of this.
Speaker 7 (58:34):
Take this from when you're sleeping. Take this from I'll
just take this from when you feel like that you're
gonna throw up. Take this from when you feel like
that you're gonna pass out.
Speaker 6 (58:40):
Yeah, it's knowing, you know, this is when I was
much younger, but like knowing what I know now, Like
you know, if they're like trying to, like, you know,
prescribe me all these things, I'd be like, Okay, what
do I really need?
Speaker 7 (58:51):
Just tell me which pill I actually am going to
need to.
Speaker 6 (58:55):
Just give me the z PAC. That's that's pretty much
all I need. Just give me something that's gonna knock
this thing out, like A or two. That's that's all
I need. No tell me which exact belt.
Speaker 7 (59:03):
Oh, by the way, make sure that I have these
timers set up to where I have to take it
at this time. Don't take it at seven thirty, because
if you take it at seven thirty, it's going to
construct what you have to take at nine thirty. Like
that's always the one that drives me nuts when it
comes to pills. I can't mix them together.
Speaker 6 (59:16):
I'm just glad it off do do all those things
all the time.
Speaker 4 (59:19):
I've been lucky enough.
Speaker 6 (59:19):
EMT is on here, astronauts on here, farmer air traffic
controller again?
Speaker 4 (59:24):
Uh, oil work? Where's A and T E? And T
is six paramedic?
Speaker 7 (59:30):
Okay, they deserve way more respect than we give them
because they see some really mess up stuff. Like honestly,
from a mental capacity, it's right there. A military for me,
because there are things that you are never going to
be able to unsee after you work in EMT for.
Speaker 6 (59:45):
Sure, and mentioned air traffic controller, oil worker.
Speaker 4 (59:48):
I mean, you know, we just watched land Man. You
see what can happen out on the patch.
Speaker 7 (59:51):
First episode, What a way to start. Not having the
right hammer, not having the right screwdriver. Boom done. Yeah,
did you shut off the valve?
Speaker 5 (59:59):
Son?
Speaker 4 (59:59):
You shut off off the mount By the way, that
might be his most underappreciated role of all. He was amazing.
Speaker 7 (01:00:04):
He was so I hated the writing of that. I
stayed around because it's just billybouth Thornte's character.
Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
I love the first episode where meeting with the guy
that's the landowner. I find that offensive to who that
or the prisoners.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
See.
Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
What you don't understand is we're not in business together.
We least your leasing rights.
Speaker 7 (01:00:25):
It's like, take the character from Bad Standa and put
him out in the oil field.
Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
That's pretty much what he had. What it was. It's
fantastic that.
Speaker 7 (01:00:31):
Or a butter maker from Bad Newspairers, like put them together.
Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
And that is.
Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
Billy about Thornton, a buddy of mine brought up a
great point a few years ago about him, is he
plays a really good loser.
Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
Oh, he plays the biggest sad sack of all time,
and I can't get.
Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Enough of it. It's fun.
Speaker 7 (01:00:48):
Throw a cigarette, throw a six pack of beer, and
Billy about Thornton on television screen.
Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
It's gonna win Oscars, it's gonna win Awards.
Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
I was gonna say that was That was pretty much
him to a tee right there on land Man. But
sadly enough, you're on all of the hardest jobs in
America to do.
Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
Now, journalists and media was not on there. Really, Wow,
we're didn't make the cut. We're didn't make the cut.
Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
I'm not upset about it, cause there's nothing there. Honestly,
and me and Sean talked about this a couple of
days ago. There's nothing that annoys me more than people
in this industry who try to talk about how hard
this job is, which yes, it's a job like any other,
but like, oh, we're doing great work. And I remember
once somebody actually said putting lives.
Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
On the line. I lost my mind when they said that.
Speaker 7 (01:01:30):
And can you name them off air to me when
we get done with this, because we talk about sports.
Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
For a living.
Speaker 7 (01:01:36):
We're it's seven twenty eight in the morning, and we're
ranking jobs on how challenging they're.
Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
Youngster somebody like that, that's like on the front lines
there in Afghanistan or somewhere like that. Then yeah, I'm
willing to listen to that from you. But if you're
somebody that puts out an article and then says, oh,
I'm getting all of these things thrown at me, no,
people just don't like you.
Speaker 7 (01:01:54):
There's a major difference in that. I work on both
sides this. I work in the sports talk rum. I
work in the realm. I get called the most egregious
things of all time. Guess what, I sleep well at
night knowing that I pissed somebody off.
Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
Well, it's not only that, it's also too is. I
told Tripoli yesterday in our meeting, I said, you know,
just limit your mentions to people who follow you and
what I say to people too. Like I pissed off
Texas fans one time and I said, hey, Texas fans,
if you want me to see that you hate me,
then follow me.
Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Seriously.
Speaker 7 (01:02:22):
No, honestly, I have gained more Stars fans in the
last two months than I have any other following just
because of how much I crap talk Dallas Interesting. Well, okay,
I am still like there are few teams in sport.
I can't stomach the Rangers. I can't stomach the Cubs.
I don't like the Cowboys. I hate, beyond hate the
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Dallas Stars. I'm a huge hockey dude. I am begging
for the day that Tillman or somebody will give us
a team out here. I want nothing more than to
watch the Stars lose every single game. I will sleep
well at night knowing that Dallas is in a Game
seven situation in overtime, losing for a shot at the
Stanley Cup.
Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
How will be my Super Bowl this year?
Speaker 6 (01:03:02):
Hockey Talk right here Sean Salisbury Show icle Thompson.
Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
We just fulfilled it there.
Speaker 6 (01:03:07):
For the final end of that segment, Ginger says, dental assistant.
Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
Needs to be on there.
Speaker 6 (01:03:12):
Yeah, probably, So just don't give me a hard time
about you know which, I mean, I haven't been since
I've started us nicotine pouches, but it was the old stuff.
Speaker 7 (01:03:22):
Dental assistant or orthodontics, because that alone is I think
that's the difference.
Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:03:26):
I actually might have to go back to the orthodonts
for that's another story. None of you care, all right.
Jared Sandler, Rangers Radio. He's up next right here as
we get into the Lone Star series with him Sean
Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety for the Seawan Salisbury
Show continued. Jared Sandler, who is part of the Rangers
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Radio network, joins us to preview this series. Jared, appreciate
the time things have been going a little bit better
for the Rangers in terms of, you know, the production
at the plate. How much of a difference has Brett
Boone made since he's taken over that job.
Speaker 13 (01:04:05):
I think playing the Rockies probably helps, right, They're awful.
Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
I mean I think he's helped a little bit.
Speaker 13 (01:04:13):
Uh, you know, I think that just in general, it's
tough to know what a hitting coach, what impact the
hitting coaches having versus you know what some of these
guys private swing coaches are providing versus you know what
the two guys who remained on staff, Justin Veeley and
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Steth Connor have done.
Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
But I think with Brett.
Speaker 13 (01:04:35):
Boone, I don't know how much he's getting in there
and taking, you know, a hard look at the mechanics.
I think a lot of it's, you know, between the ears,
the mental side of things, similar to what Edgar Martinez
brought to the Mariners when they brought him on in
the middle of last season, just trying to reset the
you know, the approach.
Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
And I think a big thing that Brett Boone can
can bring is just simplifying things.
Speaker 13 (01:04:54):
You know, this is a very data heavy organization, uh
and I think the data plays a really big role.
It's it's helpful, but not every player needs to feel
like they're taking a calculus test. And I think that,
you know, just simplifying things, synthesizing the message to players,
tailoring it to each players, you know, individually.
Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
I think he'll help in that regard for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:05:16):
Pitching wise, is it pretty much gone as you would expect.
Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
With the starting rotation?
Speaker 13 (01:05:21):
Oh gosh, I mean I expected this rotation to be
really good, but you know, they've been.
Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Statistically just I guess, you know, e r A. They've
been one of the best rotations in Major.
Speaker 13 (01:05:31):
League Baseball, you know, top three, top five pretty much
from the word goes. So, you know, didn't expect Patrick
Corbyn to be as good as he's been, especially coming
off you know, a few really rough years. Wasn't sure
what you know we're gonna get from Tyler Mallley. Figured
he'd be good, but maybe not sub to e er
A good And obviously that's that's gonna even out at
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some point.
Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
But you know, with with a Baldi, you expect that.
Speaker 13 (01:05:58):
You know, he's gonna post every five days and give
you more than just a chance to win. Jack Lyder's
been good and he'll pitch the final game of this syearies.
Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
On Sunday, but then tonight, you know, I think Jacob.
Speaker 13 (01:06:08):
De Grom's was the X factor. You know, I think
there's a lot of confidence. Who's going to be healthy.
I think the question was, you know what version of
Jacob de Grom.
Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
Were we going to get it? We're going to get
a guy whose arrow is pointing down?
Speaker 13 (01:06:21):
Are we going to get a guy who's rejuvenated, you know,
coming off of you know, basically a year and a
half off with a fresh ucl and he's not. I
don't know that he is like the most dominant version
of Jacob de Grom that we've seen, but you know
that's coming from such a high mountaintop that even half
a step down is still.
Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
One of the ten best pitchers in baseball. So this
should be a lot of fun.
Speaker 13 (01:06:45):
I mean, you got a guy on the rise in
Hunter Brown, and then you got a guy in Jacob
de Grom who's I don't want to say he's on
the descent by any means, but you know, he's obviously
in the back nine of his career and has been
the top.
Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
Of the game for, you know, for years.
Speaker 7 (01:06:58):
Jared cole Thompson with you back to Jacob mcgram, you
talk about his mechanics and his change and how he's
back to being kind of fully healthy. He's giving you
five innings the last two times out. Is that what
you can kind of expect at this point whenever he
takes the mound. You're not gonna get a full game,
but you are going to be able to get him
in line to get the win, probably give up at
least one run, but he keeps pitches down low, gets
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a couple of strikeouts, puts him in an advantage to
where as long as the bullpen doesn't find a way
to mess it up, they're guaranteed to win.
Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Yeah, I think so. I wish I could say they're
guaranteed to win.
Speaker 13 (01:07:33):
Unfortunately, with the way that the bats have been going,
you know, with these pitchers, they have been given up.
Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
You know, I think the Rangers' rotations given up.
Speaker 13 (01:07:41):
You know, prior to last night had given up two
or fewer runs and like fourteen out of sixteen or
something like that. But Jacob mcgram for whatever reason, I
guess it's all the years in New York in which
he got no run support. Is like the one guy
who's gotten run support.
Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
But I think that's that's bring that up.
Speaker 13 (01:07:56):
Is in part why maybe he isn't going seven innings
even sometimes six. I think, you know, their their goal
is to have him, you know, contributing to wins in
April and May and June, but also in August September
and you know, hopefully October. And you know, the reality
is he's, you know, barely thrown innings in the last
two years. They don't have to keep him on as
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tight of a leash as say a Jack Lyer, a
Kamar Rocker.
Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Excuse me, who's a younger pitcher.
Speaker 13 (01:08:23):
But I also don't think they feel like, you know,
they need to run him out there for one hundred
and eighty innings in the regular season.
Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
So like the other day, he I think two.
Speaker 13 (01:08:31):
Starts ago, he was at six innings, sixty five pitches,
but the Rangers were up big and they pulled him.
Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Not because he couldn't keep going. He's you know, he's
gotten to ninety pitches.
Speaker 13 (01:08:40):
I wouldn't expect him to have any hundred pitch efforts
here in the first half of the season. But I
think they just are looking for any opportunity to conserve innings. Now,
I'll say this, guys, and we asked this question when
the Rangers played Seattle, and I think it's obviously relevant
tonight against Houston.
Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Is there a little more incentive to push him for
that extra inning? And I think the answers yes, I.
Speaker 13 (01:09:00):
Think you know, you you don't push the foot on
the pedal hard against your you know, non divisional opponents
when you've got a big lead, so that you know,
maybe if it's a five run game in the sixth
inning and he's at seventy five pitches, you feel good
about him going out for the seventh just because he's
Jacob de Grom, and you know you're okay with that option.
So and the other thing specific to tonight, the Rangers
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might be down two relievers. They've lost their closer and
their their primary setup guy in two of the last
three nights, and we're not really sure the status of
their health, you know, in advance of tonight's game. But
I think with de gram yeah, I think you know,
they'd like to get six innings out of him most nights,
but I think there's an opportunity to pull him early.
Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
I think they will.
Speaker 13 (01:09:41):
He's also not putting guys away with the same level
of dominance. Still way better than league average, but not
the same level of dominance. So we've seen his pitch
count go up a little bit as well because of that.
Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
Again, he's here at Sandler TV Radio with the Rangers
up there in Arlington. You can find him on Twitter
at Jared Sandler, and you mentioned a little bit the bullpen.
I mean, is that something that has kind of started
to calm down in a good way for them as
of late, or is that still you know, a part
of this team that once you start to turn to them,
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you're kind of like, geez, I hope.
Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
That was kind of the feeling last year.
Speaker 13 (01:10:18):
And honestly in twenty twenty three, the bullpen, outside of
like two guys, wasn't that great for most of the
regular season, and then the team just got hot in
the playoffs and they scored so many runs that they
weren't playing in a lot of close games. Now this
year it's kind of been the opposite because they're not
scoring a lot of runs, they're playing a ton of
close games, and the bullpens acquitted themselves really nicely, probably
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you know, similar to the Astros and that there's some
surprise guys. I mean, I know, Taylor Scott was supposed
to be a part of the solution, and you know
he was dfad I didn't pan out, But like you know,
the Astros bullpen's been good, maybe better than expected early
performances from some individuals, and I think with the Rangers bullpen.
They're not sexy. It's not a bullpen that is going
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to scare you. You're not going to ever have the conversation, gosh,
you know, we got to be ahead after six because
don't get to seven, eight, nine. But the production has
been there, and I think they've also you know, they
built a bullpen with more depth and so you know,
the middle innings the last two years have just been
hilatious for the Rangers. If they had to go to
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the pen before the sixth inning, they were gonna have
a tough time winning unless they had already built a
big lead.
Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
That's not so much the case.
Speaker 13 (01:11:29):
And they've also got guys who just they seem to fit,
you know, someone like Kobe Milliner, who you can use situationally,
you know, as opposed to just eight arms.
Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
Right.
Speaker 13 (01:11:39):
So it's not a dominant group by any means. But
they've done a really nice job. And when you factor
in that they've had to protect a lot of really
close leads or tight ballgames, you know, I give them
a little extra juice for that, But I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
They're a bulletproof by any means.
Speaker 13 (01:11:56):
But yeah, you're right, I mean in the last couple
of years, it's it's been a feeding season for opposing
teams against the Rangers bolten and that hasn't been the
case yet.
Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
You talked about it earlier in the show.
Speaker 7 (01:12:05):
When playing the Rockies, it gives you an opportunity to
kind of get back on pace. But Josh Young has
been phenomenal this year three h two batting averages last
fifteen games for four home runs ten RBIs what have
you noticed about his played approach and him in that
six hole when runners aren't scoring position, how is he
able to drive the ball putting in play? He's he
going to be a bad X factor for this matchup
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against the Astros.
Speaker 13 (01:12:28):
Yeah, I mean, you know, they need they need everyone
to kind of step up a little bit with you know,
Corey Seeger out and you know, obviously the Astros have
a guy and I know that he wasn't hitting the
ball well before he got hurt. And jord On Alvarez,
who you know, my understanding is to likely be back
this weekend. But like Hory Seeger and jord On Alvarez,
are you know, in a unique class of hitter who
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just you know, one player can only impact the game
so much, you know, with the way the sport works,
but they they find ways to exceed that, you know,
the level of impacted even a great player just with
you know, the way they produce of the plate. And
so without those guys, you need everyone to kind of
step up a little bit. And Josh Young's you know,
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kind of taking the range here of late. I think
what you know now, Josh Young's really aggressive, and hitters
who are really aggressive have a tendency to be streaky,
They are.
Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
Susceptible at times. He has toned that down a little bit.
Speaker 13 (01:13:22):
We've seen a little more patience, and that's a problem
for this team.
Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
You know.
Speaker 13 (01:13:26):
I think for the first five six weeks, if the
season ended at whatever point, they would have had the
highest swing rate in Major League history.
Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
You know, like they were just swinging at everything. They
have toned that.
Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Down a bit.
Speaker 13 (01:13:37):
They have been a little uh, you know, a little
more patient, and I think Josh Young is kind of
in line with that. The thing that Josh does such
a good job of is he will hit to the situation.
You know, we have so many guys these days they
go up there with one swing, one mindset. And I'm
not talking about the need to lay down a buns.
I'm not I'm not big let's give out, give up
outs for a bunt guy or anything. But the ability
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to hit backside, you know, to go the other way,
to use the whole field and be willing to play,
like I said, in the situation a runner at third
and one out. You know, Josh Young's going up there
with the mindset, you know, he's talk about runners in
scoring position. He's going up with the mindset of you know,
what's the situation dictate, what is the situation.
Speaker 4 (01:14:18):
Asking of me?
Speaker 13 (01:14:19):
And I just don't know that there as many hitters
these days who have that mindset, or maybe it's just
that they don't have the ability with the back control
to operate like that is you know when I was
growing up, for instance, and you know even as recently
as probably fifteen twenty years ago, it's just a different game,
a different approach offensively.
Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
But Josh kind of has an old school approach in
that regard.
Speaker 6 (01:14:38):
He's Jared Sandler again, part of the Rangers radio network,
also does some TV covering the team up there in
North Texas. You can find him on Twitter at Jared Sandler.
And you're an sc guy too, So Jared, I guess
next time these two teams meet up with Shawn's here
got to get you on cuz, I mean, you know,
of course Sean being a trojan himself, so I know
he'll appreciate that.
Speaker 13 (01:15:00):
Yeah, I'm surrounded by like too many Stanford people with
the Rangers. Two of our broadcasts partners are Stanford guys
or ones that are Stanford gal Stanford guy.
Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
Uh And so with Brett Boone joining the Rangers, we
got a little more Steed blood. So yeah, I'd love
to chat with Sean.
Speaker 13 (01:15:16):
Our football program is in absolute mess, but hopefully we
can cheat a little bit better and get things turned around.
Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
Yeah, here's here's hoping, right, Jared. I appreciate it. Tom
Buddy enjoyed the series, and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
See fellas.
Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Let the celebration start or Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
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Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
Yeah, I think that Chargers one definitely could Chargers one.
Speaker 7 (01:15:41):
I think makes sense because both those teams are going
to be in that ten seven to eleven at six
uch that much. That's one of those games to where
I don't think it will be a playoff decider, but
I think it will be a playoff.
Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
Clincher for one of them.
Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
Fair enough.
Speaker 7 (01:15:53):
That's where like like the Texans won't be eliminated if
they lose this game, or the Charges won't be eliminated
if they were to lose that game. Colts one is
the interesting one because remember that was the Saturday night
game in twenty twenty three, and now that's going to
be home this year. I I don't know, I think that.
Do you even still think that right now? There's a
team that's competitive with it with Houston in the division.
Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
In the division? Yeah, no, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (01:16:16):
That's the problem. So like the Los Angeles game is
the one that would make the most sense.
Speaker 6 (01:16:20):
My yeah, no, the Colts will definitely be I mean,
if you're in the Saturday afternoon portion right there, maybe
that's what one of those games are because I mean
most of the country is not going to care for
that one. But we'll get in some Texans here in
a little bit. Since jose Al Tube has moved to
the second spot to twenty two with a six forty
ops and the average has come down a little bit
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as the season has gone along.
Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
I mean he did start off pretty well. They're in
the leadoff spot.
Speaker 6 (01:16:45):
But I think we can agree right now that leadoff
spot is worn by a guy that wears number thirty three,
so or number three.
Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
Excuse me, I.
Speaker 6 (01:16:53):
Say number thirty three at this point. Yeah, it's it's
it's not the opposite of King Grif Junior.
Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
But tired.
Speaker 6 (01:16:58):
No, no, I don't, I don't even oh, the last
guy of the war, number three. It doesn't matter. But anyway,
you got Jeremy Painey right there in the laid off spot.
But I mean we kind of get to the point here.
I mean, I know we talked about Christian Walker, but
it pains me to even say this. Do we even
think about moving jose Al too Ve out the two spot?
Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
Yes, that's not shocking.
Speaker 7 (01:17:18):
Like I was sitting here trying to think of what
were the things that were on your mind that we
were going to come back with. That was not one
of them, because I thought that was kind of common
knowledge at this point. He's hurting the team right now
and it sounds negative because of what he has meant
to the city.
Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
I want wins. I want consistent wins.
Speaker 7 (01:17:36):
I want to walk out of Arlington on a five
game winning streak with the clean suite. Is JOSEL two
V at the two spot going to help you get that?
That's a big question that you have right now. I
don't think so. I think absolutely if you were to
consider when looking at where everyone is sitting, Estoc parades
in the three hole, can you move them up to
the two hole? What about Yanni Diez two fifty five
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batting averages last seven games he move up to the
three hole? Would you be okay with moving Jake Myers
you into the two hole, leave Estockett in the three hole,
put Yanner at the four hole, and then maybe Christian
Walker five and then Hoseel two B six.
Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
I don't think it's a bad recipe right now.
Speaker 6 (01:18:12):
Here's the thing though with L two A is it
seems like whenever he goes through these stretches then where
you're just like, ah, man, you know, these at bats
just look terrible. That's when he didn finally you know,
comes through with a massive home run or whatever it
is that you're just like, all right, that's that's on
me for doubting you.
Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
I'm sorry. I'll wear that one. Jose. It's me. It's
not you, it's me, right. The big question is.
Speaker 7 (01:18:38):
Okay, so you can move him back to the you
can move him back to the two hole once he
starts getting hot. If you were to bat, say in
the six spot and go three fifteen, and then he
goes back to the two hole for one game and
he goes three for four.
Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Okay, problem solved.
Speaker 7 (01:18:51):
My main question right now is what needs to be
done to get hose Al tuo b back to swinging
like hose Al tuo Ba. I think I'm move down
on the lineup, giving him few were at bats and
allowing him to focus more so on concentration on back
control and where he is swinging. We'll do wonders for
him to land in the better spot to when you
need him come June, July, August, he ends up doing
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well back in the number two home. I don't think
it's that far fetch. We were talking about this on
the A team yesterday. I think that a move down
actually would beneficial for Hozel to be at this point.
Speaker 6 (01:19:22):
I mean, it's it's one of those that you know,
Joe Spotta even talked about before the season with Sean
and than Bryan of he doesn't want to move the
lineup around as much this year.
Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
As he had to last year.
Speaker 6 (01:19:33):
I mean last year was by necessity, it was injuries
and you know, trying to be able to find the
right combination just to get this lineup going. But I
mean it's also I don't even think that moving guys
necessarily means that it's a sign of.
Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
We're giving up.
Speaker 6 (01:19:45):
I'd say we're giving these guys an opportunity to succeed,
or at least the chance to be able to succeed.
Speaker 7 (01:19:52):
I'd much rather give a guy seventeen at bats, eighteen
at bats down on the lineup and fewer at bats
to allow them to build back up their confidence, then
keep them in a spot where they're struggling. Because nobody
walks away winner. Fans walk away losers. We as a
team walk away losers. You and your confidence walks away
a loser in this situation. That's why Christian Walker and
hose Al tuve. Until you start actually picking up the
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slack put you in the five and six hole, maybe
we'll call it even.
Speaker 6 (01:20:15):
Yeah, I mean it's something to consider, no doubt about it.
As the Astros head up to Arlington to take on
the Rangers, it's going to be a six o'clock Astros
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Hunter Brown and Jacob de Gram tonight.
Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
That'll be a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (01:20:36):
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But first you.
Speaker 6 (01:22:41):
Know, if it's Sean Salisbury show, we can count on
this guy. Morning Brandon, how you doing man?
Speaker 12 (01:22:47):
Good morning?
Speaker 5 (01:22:47):
How are you good?
Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Bud?
Speaker 5 (01:22:50):
Hey?
Speaker 12 (01:22:51):
I watched the Astros game.
Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
That was pretty exciting, hut, at least at the end. Hey,
I watched the.
Speaker 12 (01:22:59):
How about the new guy Cole?
Speaker 5 (01:23:01):
You like?
Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
You like Cole? Is that about me? Brandon?
Speaker 6 (01:23:07):
Oh, you're talking about Colton Gordon? I'm sorry? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
not you, buddy, Colton Gordon. Sorry, I'm good.
Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
How are you, Brandon? I'm doing okay. So you liked
watching Cold and Gordon pitch last night?
Speaker 7 (01:23:24):
Yeah, howny pitches he had.
Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
I'm not sure how many people.
Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Honey pitches he had.
Speaker 6 (01:23:33):
I'm not sure how many pitches he had. I don't
have the box score in front of me, but he.
Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
Four third?
Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
Yeah you said, yeah, you said it? There you go. Well,
how you feel about him against the Rangers?
Speaker 14 (01:23:48):
Hey, we need to win the series and we can.
Speaker 7 (01:23:52):
Who's gonna win the serial? Who's gonna Who's gonna be
the breakout player in the series?
Speaker 5 (01:24:00):
Jeremy Pay?
Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
There you go, keep a good thing going, that's for sure.
And Jeremy Pay going to too spot or number one spot?
Speaker 6 (01:24:12):
Number one buddy, Yeah, he's he's gonna be there. He's
not moving off that spot.
Speaker 9 (01:24:17):
Maybe we can move him to maybe next time, maybe
we can move him to where Ardon is?
Speaker 6 (01:24:26):
Nah, No, I like him where he's at, buddy. But
you know, got a good thing going, keep a good
thing going, you know. That's that's that's the way I
look at things. But uh, Brandon, you always know where
to find us.
Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
Man. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Okay, Hey, any updates from Jardon?
Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
No, nothing just yet.
Speaker 6 (01:24:46):
You know, Joe spot is saying yesterday that he's close,
and I mean we talked about that a little bit
earlier that you know, it seems like there's buzzwords with
the Astros when it comes to injuries. So you know, oh,
he's very close. He's very close. It's like, okay, was
around the corner? Is that in the line up tomorrow?
Is that in the lineup on Monday against the Rays?
Speaker 7 (01:25:03):
Like?
Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
What are we looking at here?
Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
You know, City of Houston.
Speaker 7 (01:25:06):
You can't let any information out, That's what it seems like. Hey,
Tank Dell, you're getting close and he's on track. That's
on track, on track for what.
Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
He'll be ready when he's ready.
Speaker 6 (01:25:16):
Yeah, Tank Dell's not playing this, but anyway, hopefully the
Astros get youred on back in the lineup. I mean,
I know he's been hitting in the cages doing all
that kind of to see. That's the other thing is
too Oh, they're hitting in the cages. They're hitting in
the cages. Okay, I understand, like conceptually what that means,
but I don't really understand what that means, Like why
isn't he hitting out here?
Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
Hey, Dann, I went to the batting cages on Saturday.
I've been hitting in the cages too. There you go.
Speaker 7 (01:25:40):
I'm ready to play tomorrow night. Joe just can't can't wait.
Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
Not tonight though. I'm a little bit busy. There you go,
There you go.
Speaker 6 (01:25:47):
All right, let's get into a little bit of the NFL,
at least on the local side here fast.
Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
I have a bone to pick with people. Pick the bone.
Speaker 7 (01:25:55):
So schedules last night number one, if pick cam Ward
test Titans sure will not be on primetime. So of
course people are losing their minds out in Nashville. Somebody
tweeted out, serious question, is cam Ward the first ever
quarterback draft and number one overall to not get a
primetime game in his rookie season? And of course, the
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Internet being the Internet, came up with a solution. Can
you tell me who is the last rookie quarterback to
not get a primetime game in his first season, Daniel Jones,
Joe Burrow, and now the comparisons have started, Dan Matthews.
We are getting a future Joe Burrow and test stop stop.
(01:26:42):
I'm sorry, do I like to beat the barrier? Bad
news to the rest of society. Cam Ward would not
go number one at any other draft. Cam Ward did
not belong at number one in this year's draft. Cam
Ward is not in the same conversation as about the
last ten quarterbacks who went number one overall. Well, cam Ward,
I hate to tell you this. Dan Matthews is not
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going to be a name that we're talking about in
five years.
Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
And I get it. He's from the Greater Houston area.
He grew up in Columbia.
Speaker 7 (01:27:10):
It's great that he was able to transcend his career
from Washington State to Miami to eventually become a number
one overall pick a zero star coming out of high school.
There's a reason why he is going to still be
a zero star quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
I'm sorry, I am.
Speaker 7 (01:27:27):
It's driven me nuts when it comes to people trying
to find reason, Like the whole you want to know
how you know that a quarterback is not that special.
And as much as we want to talk about mel
kiper Junior losing his mind on why should ta ta
ta tu, Yeah, the reason why we went to dur
was because of cam Ward wasn't worthy of talking about
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past the first overall pick. And people don't want to
admit that part, and that's the infuriating part of the
entire conversation.
Speaker 6 (01:27:56):
Well, it's funny too that you mentioned cam Ward and
mel kiper Junior in the same breath, because somebody caught
up with Mario Cristobal. I think he was on with
ESPN or somebody about cam Ward and talking about all
the people he talked with, said pretty much talked with
everybody in the NFL except for mel kiper Junior. I
wonder why mel Mel had a bad draft, Like it's
almost kind of to the point, like with the way
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he was about all the Shador Sanders stuff, that you're
not like mel Maybe maybe it's time for you to
become the emeritus of this and not the guy.
Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
I just think at this.
Speaker 7 (01:28:28):
Point it's more so the conversation of dude, do you
really want to take your opinion seriously?
Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
Well, I mean and that's the thing.
Speaker 5 (01:28:34):
I mean.
Speaker 6 (01:28:34):
It got to the point where Rhys Davis was like, dude,
stop talking about it, like he's been drafted. It's done,
Like we're finished with this, Like stop, like you're making
yourself look stupid.
Speaker 7 (01:28:45):
He was all, okay, he was looking stupid on day
one when you talked to every other, like when then
the Giants were up and they're saying, oh, this is
where he should go. He was never in that comp
like when you talk to people around the league, you
talk to anybody with a functioning brain. He was not
going Round one. And the narrative that was started it
was back in twenty twenty two. Remember when we heard
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about Malik Willis and Desmond Ritter kind of sneaking their
way into the back end of round one because of
teams the quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (01:29:12):
The league told you who he was.
Speaker 7 (01:29:15):
The league made it clear what they thought of Shudur
Sanders when the Pittsburgh Steelers, who currently are employing Mason
Rudolph as the week one starter, went with the defensive
lineman and then didn't take a quarterback until the fifth
round and they took the guy that came from Ohio
State who transferred in because if he lost the starting
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job to a freshman at Kansas State. And that's what
the league told you about Schudur Sanders.
Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
I mean it was pretty evident too.
Speaker 6 (01:29:46):
It's you know, it goes back to something that I
remember Greg Cook told me a couple of you know,
a few years ago. You know, this guy was drafted
in the fifth round. And oddly enough, Schadoor Sanders drafted
in the fifth round and people talking about, Oh, he's
gonna be a fined he's gonna be all this, and
his line was no, he was drafted in the fifth
round for a reason.
Speaker 7 (01:30:03):
The only okay, Dak Prescott came into a situation where
it became man ready for him where the team made
a quarterback, they still saw a play around him because
of what you have with the run game in Ezekiel Elliott,
Tony Romo goes down. That's the last great Day three
story outside of Mister Relevant with Brock Party, and Brock
Party is again in a situation where it's man made.
(01:30:24):
It was ready to be in a winning formula. Shooters
in Cleveland And whether or not you want to say
that Cleveland is a bad destination for any quarterback, it's
not a good team. They had struggles last year with
everyone outside of Miles Garrett. They revamped their entire offensive line.
They got a brand new run game in the building.
Because if you no longer have the Nick Chubb that
we saw become an All Pro. They have questions at
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wide receiver, they have questions when it comes to the
defensive play calling, they have questions when it comes to
their head coach.
Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
Nobody is winning that situation.
Speaker 7 (01:30:54):
It takes a special stipulation that comes out for a
Day three player to eventually hit their stride. Should always
not in that situation. Don Dak Prescott, it's not brock
party two point out, Well, this guy wasn't a Day
three he wasn't even a Day two guy. But he
is some way that Texans are counting on, and he
has made his intentions known.
Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
Who exactly that is.
Speaker 6 (01:31:14):
We will talk about also a couple of other situations
in the NFL that do pertain at least loosely to
the Texans. We'll dig in on that here as we
continue the Texans talk here on the Sean Salisbury Show,
it is Dan still with you, Triple E. Emmanuel Elmore,
He's Gold Thompson in for Sean but this is Sports
Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
Who's Who's Shaw.
Speaker 8 (01:31:38):
He's the use eternal judge who sits on high he
has the final say on all disputes.
Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
Back to the Sean Salisbury show on Sports.
Speaker 6 (01:31:46):
Talk seven ninety, and they are in the group that
is at the bottom of teams that have the multiple ones,
like the Ravens have four two.
Speaker 4 (01:31:56):
I think I saw the Rams were in there, So we.
Speaker 7 (01:31:58):
Have four, Ravens have four, where Bills have five. Bengals
I think have.
Speaker 6 (01:32:02):
Four, but the two highest are the Cowboys at six
and then the Chiefs at seven, which the Chiefs will
be on Thanksgiving. And then I think, did I see
this earlier on the offseason that they were at least
behind the scenes trying to pine for become like the
Cowboys and Lions are on Thanksgiving Day for Christmas Day.
Speaker 7 (01:32:21):
Yeah, they were trying to They want to then have
that last spot because remember there's currently the third game
that's wide open. So Detroit always has the early game,
Dallas has the mid level game, and then there's the
question mark on who's playing on the on the late
night game. This year it's Washington. I think it's it's Washington.
Minnesota if I'm not mistaken, and then both of them
play again. Detroit Minnesota play on Christmas.
Speaker 4 (01:32:43):
I'll be watching the Egg Bowl, but they moved it
this year. It's on Black Friday Night. That shows you
how close I've been paying see. But that's the problem
that I get.
Speaker 7 (01:32:52):
Okay, let me get your opinion on this, because I've
always wanted to pick the brains of other college football
for shadows?
Speaker 4 (01:33:00):
Do you hate? The NFL has kind of taken.
Speaker 7 (01:33:02):
Over certain days and made the college football schedule on
the back burner.
Speaker 6 (01:33:07):
See, I'm a guy that honestly, it's just like I
don't worry about the way I want things to be.
I just focus on the way that they are. And
I just know that the NFL is the juggernaut. They're
not going to get moved off. I mean, they finally
got to a point with Christmas Day and said, why
do we have to sit around here and watch all
of these NBA games that nobody cares about when we
could be able to infringe on that and people will
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watch us. So they did, and the same thing with
you know people all they're going to go up against
the college football playoff.
Speaker 4 (01:33:33):
The NFL says, Okay, so.
Speaker 7 (01:33:35):
Well, okay, So like last year, the College Football Playoff
and the NFL on Saturday have the same number.
Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
It was I think thirty one million off, but that
day ruled.
Speaker 6 (01:33:43):
I mean it was it was so like spread out
that I was like, I having enough options, especially that
time of the year when you know that football's going away,
so you're like, man, I better really enjoy these now
as opposed to what's going to be in about a month.
Speaker 7 (01:33:57):
But then what they did was they put Philadelphia in
one Washington this year on that Saturday of the College
Football Playoff because they know that that's going to be
a game that has massive playoff implications. So therefore they're
overtaking college football because that there is a nich audience
for college football and it continues to dwindle in this
world of nil where you don't really realize how many
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teams are losing talents left and right because if they're
getting bought out by bigger schools. So it does change
the way that we view the sport. So what is
the NFL doing. They're profiting by making sure that people
are tuned off on Saturday for the college game and
only welcoming in the Sunday game that is now taking
over on Saturday. But like my entire premise here is
that I grew up in a household where the Lone
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Star Showdown was a staple on Thanksgiving. Yeah, you'd watch
the Cowboys, whether they were good or not, you'd see
them at the beginning and then you'd transition on over
to Kyle Field or to DKR. And now that game
has moved to Friday this year, which I can appreciate
because of, hey, it's one more thing that I can
go watch the Iron Bowl and be fully locked in
on that one at durre in Hair Stadium. But still
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tradition to me matters when you go sit down, have
a nice piece of pumpkin pie and you get to
watch the Aggies crowd to the longboards.
Speaker 4 (01:35:09):
That's I appreciate. And the same thing for the Egg Bowl.
Speaker 7 (01:35:12):
There's something about that game having its validity celebrated at
the national level because if rivalries are supposed to be
indoctrinated that way, and I want it back, like maybe
it's me complaining and it's old man yelling at cloudspite
being thirty one, but I enjoy the fact that we
had those games on its own standalone matchups.
Speaker 6 (01:35:28):
I just know that when you have the upper hand
like the NFL does, well, I mean, you've got to
be able to show that you have hand.
Speaker 4 (01:35:34):
And I didn't misspeak. That's what it's called. It's called
having hand.
Speaker 7 (01:35:37):
No, you're one hundred percent right, it is. It's it's ridiculous.
But also, what is the NFL going to It's like
when people complain about the college Football Playoff National Championship
being on a Monday night.
Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
So many people, I.
Speaker 7 (01:35:49):
Hear, well, this should be a Saturday game because it's
meant for the Saturday. Okay, don't watch it on a
Monday and then let's see what happens. You're still gonna
watch it? Well, I mean that's usually when people can play.
And that's what I tell them is I'm like, okay, well,
then have enough people that stop watching it, have enough
people that stop paying into it, and then they say, huh,
we're losing money.
Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
But no, I not lose money. But I don't want
to be the one that's caught caught that's causing that.
Speaker 7 (01:36:13):
I want to be the one that is watching other
people speak the volume.
Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
That way I can do my job. You don't care
enough you don't.
Speaker 6 (01:36:21):
It's not like they're playing this game on a Wednesday
or on a Tuesday night, like they're playing it on
Monday night. Like, what the hell else are you doing?
You gotta go to work the next day. You're gonna
watch the game.
Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
It don't care.
Speaker 7 (01:36:30):
Like it's not Max and or Conference you I said,
it's between the Big ten, the SEC and maybe you'll
throw a Notre Dame ever every other few years. That's
what it is. You know who's gonna be playing. You're
still gonna be watching it. Can we please move on
from it? Like like that's where it drives me nuts.
How many people are so sporadic about how, oh, it's
the Sunday game and we have to split it with
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Monday night football. They take Monday night football off for
you to be center stage.
Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
Can you not appreciate that?
Speaker 7 (01:36:55):
Because the NFL has taken away college football playoff realm
because they moved it to Saturday, so you at least
you gotta stand alone game in this.
Speaker 6 (01:37:04):
It's the same people too that, oh, let's move this,
let's move the super Bowl this Saturday. No be man
enough to drink and man enough to go to work
or just take.
Speaker 4 (01:37:12):
A day off.
Speaker 7 (01:37:13):
Damn, there you go, here's one of your sick days.
Go ahead and get plastered, and.
Speaker 6 (01:37:18):
Yeah, that's that's always my favorite. Like when I was,
you know, in the filling role at a previous stot,
Oh I'm not feeling well. I wrote them back. I said, gee,
I wonder why what happened? How exactly did you hang
out with Jack and Gym last night? Yeah, no, that's that.
That was exactly on our response. And then the next day,
I mean to the bosses, they even said it. I
was like, let's bs, dude, don't call me in the
going all the morning show. When I know that you're
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a quote unquote feeling just fine, you're feeling a certain
other way.
Speaker 7 (01:37:43):
See when I was working at the other place, I
didn't drink on superle Sunday because I knew I was
gonna get called in. Like I just had it on display.
I was like, I know I'm getting called in. I'm
totally cool with it. I don't need to have an
alcoholic beverage.
Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
I'm cool.
Speaker 6 (01:37:56):
You know what, if you're feeling a little banged up
the next day, that's just the that's just the price
of playing. And I'm good with super Bowl being where
it's at will Anderson Junior.
Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
No surprise.
Speaker 6 (01:38:05):
He was at a firefighter event the other day and
he's kind of like c. J. Stroud, he's got those
contract talks coming up here in pretty short order, but
that he wants to be here the rest of his
career is what he said, which is not really a
surprise that he feels that way. Clearly, he's a guy
that means a lot in that locker room. Clearly he's
somebody that you're gonna be counting on at least here
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in the very near future. But the fact that he's
throwing out there that is not the same thing that
is being said Cole at the moment up in Cincinnati
between Trey Hendrickson in the Bengals where he shows up
the other day and saying that it's now personal between them.
They haven't talked to him, and oh, by the way,
his head coach, Zach Taylor cinema text and was like, Hey,
if you don't show up from mandatory mini camp, you
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get fined.
Speaker 7 (01:38:50):
That sounds like a great situation for a team that's
all in on its offense this year. Tre How do
you mess that up? Is my main question, because, like
She was in a good job of understanding. We're a
defensive minded team. We're gonna pay our defensive players. So
Jalen Peatries locked up, Dereck Singley slocked up. We went,
We brought in CJ.
Speaker 4 (01:39:07):
Gardner Johnson.
Speaker 7 (01:39:08):
We're gonna put money aside for Daniel Hunter on a
one year contract to extend him. We're gonna put money
aside on Will Anderson. Our offenses has to be minimally average.
Your offense last year in Cincinnati was good enough to
win you a Super Bowl. Your defense cost you a
playoff spot. And the one bright spot of your defense
was Trey Hendrickson, who, for my money, falls in that
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line of maybe not Miles Garrett level pass rusher, maybe
not Micah Parsons level pass rusher. But when you mentioned
names like Daniel Hunter, maybe you could throw in like
a Nick Bosa in a bad year or like former
what Joey Bosa used to be. Trey Hendrickson's right there.
He's going to give you twenty sacks a season. He's
going to give you twenty five tackles for losses. He's
gonna be a name that puts you on the market
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to where you are at least watchable and then say
you say, oh, you know what, t Higgins our number
two wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (01:39:57):
We're gonna pay him first. We don't need pass rushing out.
No Joe Burrow.
Speaker 7 (01:40:01):
Remember the meme that they had at one point when
it was Joe Burrow no offensive line not being able
to find his receiver versus Joe Burrow finding a normal
receiver that wasn't Jamar Chase. Right, that's it now, except
it's hey, Joe Burrow, you're going to have to outscore
everybody and throw for five hundred and fifty yards, five touchdowns,
zero turnovers, I cot pleic percentage around seventy five percent
and a passer rating of one thirty nine just to
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be able to get to the postseason.
Speaker 4 (01:40:23):
That's what you are at this point.
Speaker 6 (01:40:25):
Well, and it's not only that, I mean it's you know,
an organization that has the history of things like this
with players, and I mean, you know, Jonathan Joseph when
he got here was like, man, it's actually nice to
be with a capable organization that seemingly cares about its guys,
as opposed to the other place where they started to
count how many gatorades we took out of the out
of the cooler.
Speaker 7 (01:40:44):
Do you remember when Carson Palmer finally left Cincinnati and
went to then Oakland and talked about how I feel
sorry for the next quarterback that has to sign there.
They finally have that guy, and they're treating the situation
the exact same and to be completely transparent, Joe Burrow
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is a much more polished passer than Carson Palmer was.
You can actually win the whole thing with a guy
like Joe Burrow at the help.
Speaker 4 (01:41:13):
You have to make the changes.
Speaker 7 (01:41:15):
If you refuse to make the changes, you constantly are
living in this world of mediocrity.
Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
And then fans wonder the what if situation?
Speaker 7 (01:41:23):
What if we finally had somebody competent running the show.
You can't until ownership finally is willing to bend the
knee and realize, if we do not change, changes come
into our city and it's not gonna end good for us.
Speaker 6 (01:41:35):
Bad organizations continue to be bad organizations, and luckily the Texans, well,
it seems like they've kind of worked their way out
of being thought of that way. So we'll see if
they are able to stay that way. With some of
the guys that got in the building and will Anderson
Junior definitely one of those guys. Let's stick with the
NFL here coming up here on the Sean Salisbury Show,
because once a past a side position.
Speaker 4 (01:41:58):
Well now if you don't have one, you seem like
you're in trouble. We'll talk about it here.
Speaker 6 (01:42:02):
It is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued, and uh, you.
Speaker 6 (01:42:12):
Know the Timmons brothers, small's all of them. You know,
we all learned that that day right there is uh,
you know they they they beat those those guys on
the on the sand lot and then they you know,
went about their went about their way and celebrate the Tigers.
Speaker 4 (01:42:27):
I can't remember exactly what it was. I just remember
that you played ball like a girl. Yeah, you play
ball like a girl. Well what did you say? You
heard me? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:42:35):
Hamilton and Bay Porter they were in town, like the
cast was, I think everybody except for Benny. And they
did a screening over at Colin, the Colin Theater over
there at U of H. And I was like, damn,
I wanted to be there for it, but it was
Megan's birthday.
Speaker 4 (01:42:49):
Have you seen how big I is now? He's like
a bodybuilder.
Speaker 7 (01:42:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah I have yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so.
Speaker 6 (01:43:01):
He uh yeah, and and what was it the guy
that played Hamilton the Baby.
Speaker 4 (01:43:05):
He's actually a pretty funny follow. Whatever is not Patrick Doherty,
I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (01:43:10):
Yeah, so yeah, he's he's a pretty funny follow. And
he did where I think he's at a mall and
I can't remember if he's going up or down all
the down right, and yeah, yeah's got like, you know,
all the right exactly. And he's and he's crushing a
hot dog and you know, it's kind of one of
those like he's being given a look of judgment for
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eating that hot dog. But it's like I felt that,
you know, I get it, but you know it's also too.
I mean, I got a buddy of mine who's like
a competitive crossfitter, and I posted, you know, being at
Waterburger once and he's like, yeah, that's the way to
get in shape.
Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
I wrote him back.
Speaker 6 (01:43:43):
I go, you know what, maybe it does take years
off my life, but at least I'm going to enjoy it,
and I'm not eating skinless chicken and green beans and
other things which.
Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
There's value in that.
Speaker 6 (01:43:53):
Don't get me wrong, But it's like, dude, like, let
me enjoy the waterburger.
Speaker 4 (01:43:58):
I'll be fine, trust me at five am to poop
myself and then cry myself to sleep.
Speaker 7 (01:44:02):
It's just it's it's like I get it, Like that's
the way you want to live your life.
Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
But I want to enjoy tasty food my entire thing.
Speaker 3 (01:44:08):
I get it.
Speaker 6 (01:44:09):
Yeah, I probably need to lose a little bit of way, sure,
probably do my entire enjoy.
Speaker 4 (01:44:13):
CrossFit and the CrossFit culture. Easy. Now I'm part of it,
are you? Yes? I am. Do you boast about it? No,
that's the point. Just leave it.
Speaker 7 (01:44:22):
Be like, don't try to sell me the supplements on
what I need to do to get back at you.
I know that I am just barely getting by when
I got to the.
Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
Sheep, and let me just get by.
Speaker 6 (01:44:31):
So I first wanted to do it because I mean,
obviously I wanted to get into shape. That was the
entire reason I had no desire to like go compete
in games and do all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:44:38):
And I did.
Speaker 6 (01:44:39):
But I remember when I first started it, the guy
was like one of those like ultra CrossFit people and
telling me like organic diet and all of that. And
he told me that, and I go, okay, so you're
gonna pay for me to go to the store and
buy all that. I ain't doing that, dude.
Speaker 7 (01:44:51):
I got told by a personal trainer. So I was
at my I was at my gym. They do a recommendation.
You give like five names and then you get like
the one hour training set. So I did it because
I was like, screwt, why not Let's see how big
of a piece of crap I am and in your eyes?
He then tells me afterwards, you need to be working
out with me four days.
Speaker 4 (01:45:10):
Of course. Oh no, but here's my favorite one.
Speaker 7 (01:45:12):
Of course, one of those days needs to be cardio,
where I will tell you what speed and what size
on the trajectory at the olypod.
Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Bro.
Speaker 7 (01:45:20):
No, I if I just need to go walk three miles,
I'll do it around my my apartment complex. I'll do
it around my house, and I'll do it with my dogs.
I won't be paying you to tell me.
Speaker 4 (01:45:31):
No.
Speaker 7 (01:45:32):
Now, I got to be at this speed. Now, put
up to five miles per hour, put it down at
three miles. Part this is the angle that you need
to be walking on if you're not going at this arch,
You're doing it wrong.
Speaker 4 (01:45:41):
I don't need that.
Speaker 6 (01:45:43):
I don't begrudge people for doing it. And you know,
and they want to make that a priority in life,
that's fine. It's just like for me, I'm just like, Hey,
I played sports growing up, I did the conditioning, I
did all of that. I don't need to have someone
telling me how to do it anymore. Like I let
me go there and try to get in shape, let
me go at my speed, which most places do a
good job of doing that, Like you know, it's mostly
(01:46:04):
weekend warriors in there. Nobody's trying to compete for games
or doing that kind of stuff. That's fine, But like
it's the places that you go to that like try
to do like the one size fits all, And I'm
just like, you're gonna get somebody killed.
Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
Dude, Isn't that for me? It's oh, I legit.
Speaker 6 (01:46:18):
Told a crossfait coach once, like the way he was
coaching a classico, You're gonna get somebody killed.
Speaker 4 (01:46:22):
It's even for me.
Speaker 7 (01:46:23):
It's more so just like I know that I'm here
for one reason. I don't want to feel like I'm
that big of a piece of crap.
Speaker 4 (01:46:31):
Let me just do on my workout getting it out.
Speaker 7 (01:46:35):
The way to sell me off of your products so
fast is by telling me why I need to be
doing this this way. I understand my form is not perfect.
Is it the worst thing you've ever seen?
Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
No?
Speaker 7 (01:46:47):
Okay, then shut up and let me just do my
workouts so I can get on out of here. I
promise you. I want to get a daily vitamin. I
go and I buy my daily vitamins from my gym.
I take it once a day. I feel good about
myself afterwards. I don't need to be over on why
this creating powder is better than the creating powder I'm
getting at GNC, And why need to be taking three
supplements versus the two I'm taking already.
Speaker 6 (01:47:08):
It's a lot, man, and that's the only part of it.
As well as you know, you got enough problems in life,
like remember what Rip told Beth on Yellowstone. Life's hard enough.
Don't make it even harder on yourself iving that.
Speaker 7 (01:47:18):
Just like I don't need the extra mileage to be
putting more things on my brain. I work in sports
talk radio. I worry about two dogs. I worry about
a podcast I do for SEC football. On the side,
I don't need to be knowing at hey, twelve thirty
every day I need to be taking this supplement along
with this protein.
Speaker 6 (01:47:34):
That's why we call you irons in the fire. Cole
Thompson a lot Have I been called that before? Well
you just are so now we're sticking with it. Irons
in the fire. That's that's that's your new name. Astros
come back and beat the Royals last night four to three.
They take that serious. Rangers up in Arlington coming up,
Texans for nationally televised games coming up this season, as
(01:47:57):
they're gonna have a couple of Monday Night one Prime
and one on Sunday Night Football against the Bills here
in town. Running Backs, I mean, it's a position that
for the longest time, it was you're drafting a running
back in the first round, you just threw away a pick.
Now it seems like that teams when you have them,
it used to be don't pay them. But Derrick Henry
(01:48:17):
kind of proven yesterday that it's one of those Oh
you're still durable, Oh you're still good. Did you think
then we're gonna pay you? Do you think he was
gonna take a step back when he got to Baltimore.
I thought I thought he was taking it at the
end when he was in Tennessee and it was more
or less of Oh, the rest of his team sucks.
He was just that much better than everybody else, and
that started to wear him down a little bit. Then
he gets to Baltimore. You got a capable quarterback, You've
(01:48:40):
got good players that are around you, and all of
a sudden you say, hmm, this is better.
Speaker 4 (01:48:45):
I'm not counting on as much as I was there.
Speaker 7 (01:48:47):
What if I told you that with more carries in
his career than he's had ever since twenty twenty, he's
averaged more yards, more first downs, the same amount of
rushing touchdowns, more explosive plays first downs, and fewer fumbles
in Baltimore than he had in Tessy and he's thirty one.
Speaker 6 (01:49:05):
Doesn't surprise me, I mean, but it's also too I
mean again, Cole. He doesn't have, you know, the the
lack of talent that he had in the previous place.
He's got a better offensive line, He's got many other
things that are working for him.
Speaker 7 (01:49:16):
He's got a quarterback that's confident and can actually move
and not put all the pressure on him to be
the back bunt of the offense.
Speaker 4 (01:49:23):
Crazy when that concept works, right, Dan, No, exactly.
Speaker 6 (01:49:26):
And that's where you know, for Tennessee, it's what a
hell of a year to need a quarterback. And I mean,
I think cam Ward will be fine. I don't think
that he's going to be this you know, transcendent talent
that's gonna, you know, change the organization. And I mean
that's just kind of the place they found themselves in
where I mean when they drafted Will Levis and I
could have told you that. You could have told people
that when they drafted him, of you know, all of
(01:49:47):
a sudden, this guy's gonna be so much better. So
he's gonna stop overthrowing people like he did when he
was at Kentucky.
Speaker 7 (01:49:52):
Okay, I'll put you on the spot. Then he went
there from Penn State for a reason. But go ahead,
Bryce Shunger cam Ward next three years, Bryce Young, Kyler,
Murray Berger, cam War in the next three years. I
don't know enough about cam Ward Baker, Baker Mayfielder, cam
War in the next three years.
Speaker 4 (01:50:11):
I'm not as big of a Baker guy as everybody else.
Speaker 7 (01:50:14):
Yeah, that's my point when it comes to cam Ward
is if you're trying to be the number one overall pick.
I think that my franchise needs to be transcended into
a new level to where I feel like you're going
to help me win. I would rather Michael Pennock's junior
with the Atlanta Falcons the cam Ward right.
Speaker 6 (01:50:30):
Now, Well, are you gonna get see them five times
this year on national TV? Which they don't even want
to watch them five times in that market?
Speaker 7 (01:50:37):
Why do we keep giving bad to like like the Cowboys.
I get it, they're quote unquote America's team. No, they're
America's play other, America's paycheck. I get that they have
to be on national television. Why are we giving bad
markets great games?
Speaker 6 (01:50:51):
You just answered your question about the Cowboys because even
if you hate them, you hate watch because you want
to make fun of them. You want to share the memes,
and you want to be able to you know, like
everybody else on social media.
Speaker 7 (01:51:02):
It's why Notre Dame is going to go to the
college football playoff every year just because if people.
Speaker 4 (01:51:06):
Hate watch them. Am I like, there's power in being
in that position.
Speaker 6 (01:51:10):
I mean, look, it's there is a little bit of jealousy,
but it's also too what did they do to deserve this?
Speaker 7 (01:51:16):
Now, They played a minuscule schedule against inferior competition, kept
it close in a game that you probably should have
lost that you eventually won, and you did enough to
be able to be known as the most hated college
football team in America.
Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
Welcome to college football, like, welcome the ratings. That's what
it is. You have to have a villain in the sport.
Speaker 6 (01:51:35):
No, you do, And I mean that's why it's kind
of funny enough that we've got one in this town.
Which I mean that was the thing, like when you know,
all the astro stuff came out a buddy of mine,
he he got me to think this way, he goes.
Welcome to being the Patriots, Like this is good.
Speaker 4 (01:51:49):
I know, it's not a bad thing.
Speaker 7 (01:51:51):
By the way, people want you to go to the
playoffs so they can be the reason why your street
comes to an end. Like that's kind of what it is.
That's why people want Alabama to play. Like Alabama fans.
They were the villain of college football because if nobody
could take them away.
Speaker 6 (01:52:04):
Though, can I ask that, what do you mean Alabama fans? Yeah,
like they seemingly have to remind you that they won
like they're almost the aggie fans on steroids.
Speaker 4 (01:52:11):
That's I'm not even gonna.
Speaker 7 (01:52:13):
Answer that because they're not. Because at least they can
back themselves up and say they want something. Then why
do you have to say it? We see it? It's
fine because of it has to I don't know, like
because if they know that they've been waiting for this
moment to be relished. Back at the National Conversation, you've
been there for twenty years, I know, well again, do
you do? I think that right now they deserve to
be talking.
Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
No.
Speaker 7 (01:52:32):
It's like when people last year were saying that they
belonged to the playoff despite being nine and three. You
lost to Vanderbilt in Nashville and an Oklahoma team that
ranked dead last in passing, You really think you belong
in the playoffs. I gotten screaming match with my brother
and my mother about this for two days. They didn't
belong in the playoffs, But yet Alabama fans think that
script day carries so much weight.
Speaker 4 (01:52:53):
It's the same thing with the Patriots.
Speaker 7 (01:52:55):
If you're in that range of ten and seven, you
automatically belong to the playoffs because of what they said
in the past.
Speaker 4 (01:53:01):
All right.
Speaker 6 (01:53:01):
I was gonna go with Bill Belichick next, because I mean,
it's seemingly the storyline on this show that will not
die and go away. But since we're gonna have Gordy
coming up in about fifteen minutes, we'll lead into him
with this, and it's Arch Manning and it is just
something that I honestly can't get out of my head.
Speaker 4 (01:53:18):
And we'll talk about it here.
Speaker 6 (01:53:19):
It is a Sean Salisbury Show, Cale Thompson, and for
Sean it is Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:53:26):
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Speaker 6 (01:53:27):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show, Get back at it.
Gordy has called himself an arch truther. He thinks that
Arch Manning is worth the hype, that he is going
to live up to it, and he is going to
be the guy that you know, everybody thinks he can
be at Texas. I go the complete opposite way. My
response is, dude, let the guy play first, like seriously,
(01:53:50):
like okay, we saw him do like the Tim Tebow
Chris Leak thing last year, a little bit. That's that's
all good, that's all fine, and Tebow eventually, at least
for what he did, lived up to the hype.
Speaker 4 (01:54:02):
Won the Heisman doing all of that. I mean, couldn't
throw the football.
Speaker 6 (01:54:05):
We get all that, but I mean at the same time,
you know, he still had to prove that he was
the guy.
Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
He also won a national title, which kind of helped out.
Speaker 6 (01:54:12):
Sure, absolutely, But like with Arch, like I look at it,
you're replacing a lot on the offensive line. Sure, you're
replacing a lot in a receiver group that was not
all that good to begin with. But I mean you've
got both of those that you have to deal with
this year, and it's going to be your first year starting.
I just Cole, I look at it, and I'm like,
to Texas fans, I'm like, guys, you're putting expectations on
(01:54:35):
this guy that just cannot be met.
Speaker 7 (01:54:37):
So do you remember Nikoiyamaliaba when he was coming out
of high school number one recruit goes to tennesseee.
Speaker 6 (01:54:44):
It kind of reminds me of Djungali and when he
came out, like everybody was like, Oh, this guy's better
than Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 4 (01:54:49):
He's going to be unbelievable. It's like, Okay, So.
Speaker 7 (01:54:52):
I remember when Nico played the first time in the
bowl game against Iowa, and I had to then calm
down Tennessee fans for the next six months, saying, let
him learn how to play in Josh Heipel's offense, you would.
Speaker 4 (01:55:05):
Be a good team.
Speaker 7 (01:55:06):
I have no doubt the Tennessee will not be a
good team, but it's not because of Nico and the backup.
You would have thought that I said that Tennessee was
gonna go two to ten, they were going to finish
by firing their coach, and that the entire program.
Speaker 4 (01:55:20):
Was lost by saying Nico probably.
Speaker 7 (01:55:22):
Is not going to meet the same expectations that you
have for him because you set them at a bar
that was so high that it was constantly being moved
up further and further to where it kind of took
you away from what actually Nico was supposed to be.
A young player learning how to navigate through a season,
mitigate through an offense, and build a rapport with his receivers.
Speaker 4 (01:55:43):
That's what arches. That being said, I'm not worried about Texas.
I'm not. I think Texas is still gonna.
Speaker 7 (01:55:49):
Be a top five team in college football this year.
I think they have one of the better defenses. They
absolutely have the best linebacker returning in the sport. They
have one of the best safeties returning in the sport.
Good secondary, very solid pass rush for Collins Simmons back.
I trust what Kyle Flood's doing with the offensive line
because of the fact that we've seen the success rate
for Alabama every single year when they would lose players.
(01:56:11):
Texas has brought in that saint type of talent. Number
one recruiting class, very good transfer portal. Addition, I love
what they brought in on the defensive line. Jack Rys
the titand that comes on in from cal I think
is the second best tight end in college football, mostly
comes on in from Stanford. Really good freshman season. I
don't doubt that Texas is going to be with that schedule,
still in the running for an eleven to one, ten
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and two finish.
Speaker 4 (01:56:34):
But it's not.
Speaker 7 (01:56:34):
Because of Arch It's because of the supporting cast that's
around him and having a solid defense. Nika Wayamaliavo was
not theres in Tennessee made the College Football Playoff last year.
The rushing attack and the defense prevailed out in Knoxville.
Speaker 6 (01:56:48):
That's Austin well and it's also where I'm going with
this is saw this story on awful announcing Adam Schefter
throwing out the idea of a NFL draft lottery. For
arch Man, It's like he hasn't even played a game yet.
He hasn't even played a meaningful game yet. And I
understand he got a couple of starts because it was
a season and Quinn Ewers is on the field, which
(01:57:09):
means that Quinn you is gonna get hurt and somebody
else is gonna have to play quarterback.
Speaker 7 (01:57:12):
But Mississippi State and UTSA are not building blockstor where
you figure out what a player is.
Speaker 4 (01:57:18):
It's not Missippi State went two and ten last year.
Speaker 7 (01:57:21):
It wasn't a good Jeff Trailer team out in San Antonio.
It was a rebuilding year for both programs. That's not
a building point to where I say arch manning number
one pick in twenty twice.
Speaker 6 (01:57:32):
I just think, I think we do this to ourselves
all the time, and especially college football fans do this
themselves where you want something to be the case as
opposed to what it really will be. And I don't
have any doubts that he can be a good quarterback,
and maybe he will live up to the expectations. But
I just I tell fans all the time when they
do this to themselves. I've seen it way too often
(01:57:53):
where it's oh, you know this guy, you know, you
go ahead and put him in as the first round
pick here in about three years.
Speaker 4 (01:57:58):
It's like, okay, I.
Speaker 6 (01:58:01):
Mean, I just I that's fine, because the guy that
is always the most popular is the backup who's a
five star on the bench that the coach isn't smart
enough to be able to play.
Speaker 4 (01:58:10):
Get all of that.
Speaker 6 (01:58:11):
That's fine, But then they finally get their opportunity, and
I'm like, well, if they don't, if they don't live
up to that expectation, you're the only one that set
yourself up for it.
Speaker 4 (01:58:20):
You hoped rather than believe. See.
Speaker 7 (01:58:22):
I don't really have a problem with you believing that
Arch is going to live out to expectations. What I
have a problem with is you see the quarterback rankings
that come out by like two, four to seven Sports
and like on three and all the publications, and Arch
is number one, ahead of Kate club Nick, ahead of
Garrett Nusmeier, ahead of Leonora's sellers, DJ Lagway, who was
a freshman that actually had to play meaningful games last
(01:58:43):
year and one games against LSU and Ole miss I
had a jah Matteer, who's coming on in with the
same offensive coordinator in Norman, Oklahoma that he just put
up over four thousand totally archs of scrimmage in Pulman, Washington.
But Arch because of the Manning name, like change the
last name to Johnson. Is is he even in the
running for QB one in the SEC. No, He's probably
(01:59:03):
like QB seven, QB eight, And I think that.
Speaker 4 (01:59:06):
The talent is there.
Speaker 7 (01:59:07):
But like I know what I'm getting a jometerier, I
know what I'm getting in the Norris Sellers, I know
what I'm getting in Marcel Reed even. And we're saying
that because if he's Arch Manning automatically going to hit,
can we please let him play one game against our
ranked opponent, Ohio State Week one, eleven am kick.
Speaker 4 (01:59:25):
I'm not saying I'll know everything about Arch.
Speaker 7 (01:59:26):
Manning, but at that point, depending on how he looks,
I can have a gauge on what interest he's going
to go to, what direction he's trying.
Speaker 4 (01:59:32):
To get ready for the hype machine.
Speaker 6 (01:59:34):
If they win that game and he plays somewhat well
higher than Kenny Trill back in twenty sixteen, Yes, yes, yeah,
I remember that game against South Carolina here.
Speaker 4 (01:59:43):
A lot of five touchdowns that was ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (01:59:45):
Yeah, and then well then he ended up at TCU.
So hopefully Arch is able to avoid a similar fate.
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After the Astros come back to beat the Royals four
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in this conversation. But since Cole is here and since
you're here, well, college football is a huge thing that
we're all big fans of, and we were just talking
about Arch Manning and I informed him that you are
an Arch truther. Seems like that me and are both
on the same side of Hey, let the guy play
a little bit, whereas you're ready to go full on
(02:01:48):
ind that believe the hype in Arch.
Speaker 5 (02:01:51):
Well, I think he's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 11 (02:01:53):
I mean, we can't ignore what everything that they lost
around him, and it's a lot they've got to replace,
but sarks a great job of recruiting.
Speaker 5 (02:02:01):
They've had some added some pieces here and there through
the portal.
Speaker 11 (02:02:03):
So yeah, I mean it's look, you could sell me on.
He has an up and down year, comes back in
between twenty six and Texas is a preseason national championship favorite.
Speaker 5 (02:02:15):
Twenty twenty six with a season arch Manning.
Speaker 11 (02:02:17):
I can buy that, but I just look at what
they've done the last two seasons, making the playoff semi
final two straight years. Yeah, the expectations have not changed
in Austin. And you look at the Vegas win totals
fan will put up yesterday. They got Alabama, Georgia and
Texas all right there. At nine and a half wins,
Texas is expected to be a ten win team and
back in the playoff again.
Speaker 6 (02:02:38):
All right, so let's get into the astros here. You're
watching listening along with us all last night. Colton Gordon,
what were your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (02:02:46):
Yeah, I thought it was pretty good.
Speaker 11 (02:02:47):
I mean, I know the onus and scattering report on
him coming in was that you know he's gonna throw strikes,
and so you throw strikes, you're gonna give up hits.
Speaker 5 (02:02:55):
And he gave up seven of them.
Speaker 11 (02:02:57):
Did show us some swing and miss stuff, got you know,
got some three three strikeouts.
Speaker 5 (02:03:01):
But you know, I.
Speaker 11 (02:03:03):
Thought I thought it was an okay outing. I thought
it was okay. I mean, I and I know it ends.
Speaker 5 (02:03:08):
Up on two.
Speaker 11 (02:03:08):
He gave up leaving Dubin gives up the hit that
that scorts the third run, but I thought it was okay,
it was a good starting point, but this just kind
of exacerbates. Man, you've got some studs on this pitching staff.
You know, when Fromber is rocking and he's good, he's
a stud. Hunter Brown's been awesome all year, but the
back end of the staff right now is very a
lot of question marks. Spencer Getty's still out. You know,
(02:03:31):
you're looking up and down this roster going all right,
Lance mccullors, you know what's you know, you're holding your breath.
Speaker 5 (02:03:36):
On what he's gonna look like his next outing.
Speaker 11 (02:03:38):
Ryan Gusto and it wasn't great the other night and
al Colton Gordon.
Speaker 5 (02:03:42):
You know, okay, four to third.
Speaker 11 (02:03:44):
Three erin, but you know, if he's gonna stay up here,
he's gonna have to do better than that. So that's
just kind of what you look at. And again, to me,
McCullers is the biggest one. He's the vet, right. I
mean that we can get mad at Gusto and Gordon,
but their rookies get their first taste. To me, the
has to be on the Colors has to be better
in his next start, and honestly, his next several starts.
Speaker 7 (02:04:06):
Gordy Christian Walker two O eight batting average, two thirty one,
nine strike ONTs in his last seven games. At some point,
it just feels like stubborness from Joe Aspata leaving him
in the four hole, especially when you start to have
the conversations of, well, it's better for esac Parades to
line out with two outs rather than get him on
(02:04:26):
base and then know that you're not going to score
a run. Is a move eventually going to happen where
you think that they will see the numbers are not
backing up Christian Walker in the cleanup spot and he'll
be either at the six hole, the five hole, or
even the three hole.
Speaker 5 (02:04:41):
Well, that's that's what I've argued.
Speaker 11 (02:04:43):
I mean, I've been arguing that he needs to be
you know, slide him down a little bit there in
the lineup, because it just feels like every time he
comes up, there's you know, two men all with one
out or two men all with two out, and he
you know, either strikes out or just you know, pops
out or whatever, and it doesn't lead to any and scored.
It just you got to put your guys who are
hitting up there in the top five and you know,
(02:05:05):
Jannar Diaz has been hitting as of late, like I would,
I would switch things up just a little bit and
side Christian Walker up there, because you know, even nol
Tuve hasn't been hitting very much as of late. So
you know, I just I can't have too many holes
in the top of my lineup right now. And Walker
again last night, they're ero for four night with two strikeouts,
a batting average sitting at two toh one on base
(02:05:27):
percentage to eighty one. It's just not good enough. He
far and away, he leads the team in strikeouts. You know,
he's on pace to finish. If he stays on this pace,
he's gonna finish top twenty in all of baseball and strikeouts. Uh,
it's you know, the signing. We can we can debate
the signing and should they have gotten him and all this.
He's been very good defensively, so I give him that.
(02:05:47):
But yeah, it just feels like, you know, they were
doing it with Jose Bray you for the longest, like
they kept hitting him in that four spot. It was like, dude,
what are you doing. It's not working. And you can
do back of the baseball card all you want. But
at a certain point I got to put my better
hitters in the top of my order to drive in runs.
Speaker 6 (02:06:04):
Well, I mean, it's also too Gordy. What's you know
puzzling to me and Cole on this we talked about
a little bit earlier. Is you see how well he's
hitting the five spot? You see how well he's hitting
the three? I mean, Jordon or no, Jordon, Like, what
what is the rush to move him into this spot?
Speaker 2 (02:06:22):
Move?
Speaker 4 (02:06:22):
Who gore talking about Walker? Sorry?
Speaker 11 (02:06:27):
Oh yeah, well that's that's what I'm saying. I mean,
maybe that's what they're looking at, is when Jordon gets back,
maybe you have the luxury and then you could slide
and then you can slide him down a spot or two.
But again, you know, and it's hard to say because
Jannar Diezzel for three last night, but you know, I
just felt like he's put up so much better, more
competitive at bats as of late than Walker.
Speaker 5 (02:06:45):
I would I would flip flop them in the lineup
right now. That's just me.
Speaker 11 (02:06:50):
But again, I think just what's happening too many times
is these these guys are coming up the heart of
your order with men on base, and they're not coming
through and it's just, you know, luckily Mauricio Dubon play yesterday.
He's playing like what a dozen games so far the year,
He's barely played. He made the most of his playing
time last night. And Jeremy Paine has been a rock
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star so far, you know, so you can argue, you
can almost argue he's been your team MVP. But just
too many guys batting near the Mendoza line that just
aren't able to drive and run. So yeah, again, when
Jordan gets back, and maybe he gets back here sooner
rather than later, maybe that'll be the move that lets
them or gives them the ability to slidewalk her down
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a spot.
Speaker 4 (02:07:31):
He's the Gordon Tron.
Speaker 6 (02:07:32):
Chris Gordy joins us every Tuesday and Thursday here on
The Sean Salisbury Show courtesy of Carbach Brewing. Uh, let's
get into the pitching a little bit. I mean, last
night you get four and a third out of Colton Gordon,
you get Sean dub and you get Kayla Bard, Brian
King able to put some good things together. I mean,
how fortunate is this team heading into this series against
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the Rangers, who has outstanding starting pitching to be able
to kind of space things out with the bullpen, even
with the rough start by Lance and then the rough
start by Gusto the other night.
Speaker 5 (02:08:05):
Yeah, I mean, look, the bullpen's been outstanding.
Speaker 11 (02:08:07):
I mean they they lead the American League and ERA
at what it was two seventy eight coming into last night.
But all those guys, Steven Oker, Brian A. Bray, you,
Brian King, Bennett Susa, I'll put him in there, Josh Hader,
they've all been incredible. They all have v rays at
one fifty nine or lower. And you know, on the
other side, starting pitching has been good enough to astros
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get a lot of swinging miss I mean, coming in
the last night they were six in strekeouts with all
you know, closing a four hundred strikeouts as a team
or as a pitching staff. So you know, as a
staff to still have, you know, be top ten in
in all of Baseball and ERA. And that's with McCullers
and Gusto and some of these guys you know struggling,
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It just shows how good the front end of this
rotation has been. And so you know, you do the
you do the sign of the cross, and you hope
that all these guys can stay healthy at least on
the front end of your of your squad, because you know,
that's what's gonna keep this thing from falling apart. Here
is keeping you know, Hudder Brown healthy, keeping from Bervaldez
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looking more like vintage from Bervaldez.
Speaker 5 (02:09:12):
And now give Rono Blanca love too.
Speaker 11 (02:09:14):
I mean, he was awesome his his last time out,
well up and down to start the year. But these
are the guys that you're gonna have to lean on
to to carry you because the back end of the
rotation is a little bit of a mess right now.
Speaker 7 (02:09:25):
Hunter Brown starts off the series tonight in Arlington, but
tomorrow is the one that I'm paying most attention to. Cordy,
how important is it for Lance Mcaller's shooting to get
off to a hot start?
Speaker 11 (02:09:36):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's the one I'm looking at.
I mean, in all honestly, tonight is monstrous because you're
going up against the grom and you know, and you're
you're saving your best.
Speaker 5 (02:09:45):
I mean, they if.
Speaker 11 (02:09:47):
They'd kept their rotation going how it was going, Hunter
Brown was supposed to go yesterday, but they saved him.
They pushed him, kind of slowed him back. A spot
and said, oh, we're gonna go with this six man rotation.
And the whole reason was Hunter Brown gives you a
better chance to win in Arlington than you know, who
cares about being Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (02:10:04):
You want to get the division games are.
Speaker 11 (02:10:06):
What matter and honestly, tie breaker could come into play
here by the end of the season with the Texas Rangers.
So a monster game tonight for the Astros with Hunter
Brown playing.
Speaker 5 (02:10:17):
Jacob de Groun's been awesome.
Speaker 11 (02:10:19):
He's three and one with a two seventy two e
RA lo and behold, guy who used to be one
of the best pitchers in baseball's once again one of
the best pitchers in baseball.
Speaker 5 (02:10:26):
So that's a challenge.
Speaker 11 (02:10:28):
And then tomorrow night you get a Valdi who's spin
off to an awesome start. He's even better. He's four
and two with a one to seventy eighty RA. I mean,
he's untouchable. That that one is going to be advantage
Rangers tomorrow night. Yes, mccullors has to play, has to
pitch well, but let's be honest, Evaldi's better.
Speaker 5 (02:10:43):
So you know it's again tonight.
Speaker 11 (02:10:46):
I put the onus on tonight, like find a way
to win tonight because you don't feel good about going
Friday against a Valdi with mccullors counting him. And then
you get you know, Saturday and Sunday and they're throwing
some good arms there too. The Rangers are just they
have really good pitching right now. They were winning games
earlier in the season with lack of offense, and find
a ways to get it done because their pitching staff
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has been so good. So you know, if you're the Astros,
like I said, I'd need to find a way to
win the night because as good as we feel right now, yeah,
we took you in three against the Labars one another
series awesome. If you go up to Arlington gets swept,
all that good will goes out the window.
Speaker 6 (02:11:23):
Yeah, And I mean, you know that's the other part
of it too, is I mean, this is a series
that has become, you know, pretty hotly contested over the years,
especially two with what happened in the LCS. I mean,
this is one that probably for Astro fans. I mean,
I know, the Yankees are there, the Dodgers there, but
the Rangers series whenever it comes up now you're kind
of like, oh, man, like you can't lose.
Speaker 4 (02:11:45):
These guys, Yeah, and.
Speaker 11 (02:11:47):
It's just again they're they're never gonna let you live
it down from the was that the twenty twenty three postseason,
when you know, you win all three up there and
then you come back here and you can't win one
and they go on to the World Series because they
beat you. You gotta keep pace with Arlington. So that's
why I say it's a four game series. Find a
way to split, find a way to go too, and
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two you know, if you can do better than that, awesome,
But I just I don't feel great about where these
bats are.
Speaker 5 (02:12:16):
You found a way to.
Speaker 11 (02:12:16):
Score Atch and Claude get these two wins against Kansas City,
but man, it really took, you know, it took some
of your your backups and your guys down the lineup
doing doing what they need to do to find those wins.
Speaker 5 (02:12:27):
To me, this is a it's just a.
Speaker 11 (02:12:29):
Very important series for from early in the season, you know,
and then after this you get you get Seattle a
couple of times, you get the A's, so a lot
of division games coming up here that the Astros could,
you know that they could keep pacing the Al West
or they could fall back in.
Speaker 5 (02:12:43):
The al Wes if they don't come ready to play.
Speaker 11 (02:12:45):
And and by the way, guys, some interesting notes on
on the series this weekend. Uh, as far as you know,
TV goes MLB network is the game tonight, Apple TV
plus Tomorrow Night, so you have to have that to
watch the game. Sunday's game is Roku, So it's you know,
it's the ever evolving, you know, landscape of TV's rights
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and baseball and all this.
Speaker 5 (02:13:08):
But just know we're gonna have every game for you
for free.
Speaker 11 (02:13:11):
Right here on Sports Talk seven ninety and on the
free iHeart Radio app, So make sure you lock.
Speaker 5 (02:13:15):
It in now.
Speaker 6 (02:13:15):
I was gonna say, don't forget to download that free,
new and improved Dieheart Radio app and have Sports Talk
seven to ninety pre set number one. You get your
stros pretty much wherever you are at. Well, Gordy, I
mean we have you on every Tuesday and Thursday courtesy
at car Bock Brewing. And I mean we got the
weekend coming up, we got this matchup coming up, and
I mean the first part I just mentioned it's the weekend.
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Where I'm going with this is there's never a bad
time to reach into the refrigerator and pull out that
high school Crawford boch.
Speaker 11 (02:13:44):
Yeah, it just makes sense. If you're watching any Astros,
you're drinking a Crawford bock. That's what you need to
be doing. And a lot of folks enjoyed this nice
little home stand. You can enjoy the Crawford bok right
there in the friendly confines of Dykin Park. But for
the road games, if you're watching it on TV, if
you're in the backyard listening to the radio and sports
talks of an eye, you can crack open high school
Crawford back players perfectly with Astros baseball.
Speaker 5 (02:14:04):
With Keel Sunrise stripes on the can. You know it
when you see it all over town.
Speaker 11 (02:14:09):
I've been to HGB, I've been to gas stations, I've
been you know, just about everywhere, and everywhere you go
you see that Crawford bock on the can, Grab it
and get ready to watch some Astros baseball.
Speaker 5 (02:14:18):
A reminder this Sunday they're doing an.
Speaker 11 (02:14:20):
Astros watch party at Carbock Brewing out there in the
Buer Garden.
Speaker 5 (02:14:24):
Family friendly event. Come on out.
Speaker 11 (02:14:26):
They'll have a drink, specials and much more. Game kicks
off the first pitch at noon on Sunday, so a
little bit of an earlier start, because it's a Roku
game twelve or five.
Speaker 5 (02:14:36):
First pitch coming out there.
Speaker 11 (02:14:37):
I'll have you with the on deck show and let's
enjoy being outside watching the Astros on Sunday over there
Carbock Brewing.
Speaker 6 (02:14:43):
Plus you hit me, I and Sean with the Crawford
pale Ale and I've yet to try it yet, but
I am looking forward to that.
Speaker 4 (02:14:51):
Maybe maybe tonight.
Speaker 6 (02:14:52):
Maybe maybe that's when when I finally break into the
pale Ale and see if it matches up with the
Crawford Bach Love Street, you know all the other great
beers they have over there at Carbak.
Speaker 11 (02:15:03):
Yeah, a little bit lighter of a flavor. So whichever
you want to grab Kraferbach or know the logger, you
can grab that as well.
Speaker 6 (02:15:09):
All right man, Well, I appreciate it as always, and
we'll catch up with you again next Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (02:15:15):
Our Fellasia.
Speaker 4 (02:15:16):
All right, there you go.
Speaker 6 (02:15:17):
Chris Gordy joins us every week courtesy of Carbach Brewing.
One thing he talked about with the Astros that I
do want to carry over here because I do think
it is incredibly important about this series. This weekend, we'll
discuss that here. It is a Sean Salisbury show. He's
Cole Thompson in for Sean this Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 6 (02:17:17):
You're home with the Stros and Luke Donald in a
group of ten players, actually nine players that are at
three under includes Keegan Bradley in there right now with
a three hunderd lead they're at Quail Hollow. But one
of the things that we just talked about Cole with
Gordy is the importance of this series against the Rangers. Now,
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I mean importance is a relative term because it is may. Sure,
we've seen the Astros fall behind and be able to
come back as they did last year. We've also seen
two where you know, maybe you are able to have
a great series, and then you know there's another series
later on down the road where you make up some
of that ground, whatever it might be. But I do
agree with Gordy that this is a tone setting series
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right here where if you get out of there no
less than a split, then you did your job. But
if you get out of there swept, you lose three
out of four, then all of a sudden, you give
a team that has not had a ton of momentum,
like the Rangers at a point were almost kind of
like where you were last year, where you were getting
good pitching, you weren't getting good hitting, and you weren't
able to win those close games, whereas the Astros this
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year have been able to win those close games. And
now it's a chance for you to be able to
pad yourself in front of them, but also to be
able to make sure that they don't catch momentum and
who knows what happens with their season from there.
Speaker 7 (02:18:36):
Ashers are two games over five hundred, Rangers are two
games over five hundred. Ashes are a game back of
first place behind Seattle. Rangers are a game back of
first place behind Seattle. Gordy brought up a point. The
tiebreaker in this division may carry significant weight, and this
is one of those games that could eventually have drastic
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implications on what we know about the playoffs. Athletics. They're
gonna go out the nameless Athletics. They're not gonna be
in the running for the long term. Yeah, it was
nice that they have some pieces in play. They're gonna
go back down too reality and be in fourth and
fifth place. Los Angeles is out of the running at
this point. Seattle, we know, is eventually going to half
to decide is there pitching and to prevail. Is their
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offense that as hot as it looks right now, going
to continue or is it eventually going to go back
to reality where they don't spend money at the deadline,
they don't trade away prospects, and they put themselves in
a situation where Lo and Behold they end up underachieving
because that's been Seattle's mantra.
Speaker 4 (02:19:34):
So it's Houston and Texas. Still.
Speaker 7 (02:19:37):
Going three to one in this series is a huge
advantage for you, especially if the one loss comes to
Lance Colors. Okay, Lances are ready to be back. Maybe
Nathan Davaldi continues his pathway of being one of the
better pitchers in the American League. But you're able to
close out, You're able to get a win on Saturday,
a win on Sunday, a win tonight, and you end
up seeing another Cy Young performance from Hunter Brown against
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it's a former Cy Young and Jacob de Grom.
Speaker 4 (02:20:02):
It's a tone setter.
Speaker 7 (02:20:03):
Because of these games have such massive implications, and the
next time that you face off against Texas is in
over a month, so you have to at least I
think breakaway even because of these are the two teams
that we will be talking about after the all start break.
These are the two teams that we will be talking
about in the running for first place. And it's a
division where that minor seventh inning mishap may eventually.
Speaker 4 (02:20:26):
Cost your spot in the postseason altogether.
Speaker 6 (02:20:28):
Well, and it's also I mean, you know you mentioned
Hunter Brown. I mean that's why he's so important tonight.
When I mean the way I got to approach Lance
McCullers right now is I'm approaching was it's bullpen games
at this point because I mean, he's basically an opener
for you at this point, and he mentioned it. You
get a Vaaldi going tomorrow night, and I mean he's
been tough on hitters this year. All right, fine, but
(02:20:50):
I mean being able to get Hunter Brown to set
the tone tonight, then it's one of those where again
you've got three more to go, where you say, well,
we only really need to win one of these.
Speaker 7 (02:20:59):
Oh, okay, what happens if Ronel Blanco gives you a
strong outing, Okay, you breakaway even I'll take that. I
see that Ronel Blanco, the success that he had against
Cincinnati was not at one game Fluke.
Speaker 4 (02:21:10):
That is what we can come to.
Speaker 7 (02:21:12):
And I'm not saying he has to have eight innings
and eleven strikeouts. I'm saying, give me six innings, give
me five strikeouts, get in a couple of doubleing double plays,
get out of position, give up one run, and hopefully
our offense is enough to be able to put us
over the top.
Speaker 4 (02:21:25):
I'm okay with that. I just need to be.
Speaker 7 (02:21:28):
Able to see someone else be that consistent course, because
the problem right now with the Astros is you're relying
so heavily on your pitching. You know you're gonna get
great Fromber. You know you're getting great Hunter Brown. You
need somebody to be that number three until the offense
picks it on up. This is one of those series
where against a very amnemic Rangers offense that is probably
feeling pretty good because they went up against the worst
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team in baseball, they're gonna be able to start to
feel that momentum, bring them back down to reality where
they've been all season long, and do it by having
one of your better pitchers step on up.
Speaker 6 (02:21:59):
Yeah, it's to be key, and I mean I've said
it numerous times and I'll continue to say it, you know,
for even the ones who get annoyed with me repeating myself.
Speaker 4 (02:22:06):
This team hits, they win. I mean, it's it's really
that simple.
Speaker 6 (02:22:09):
With the Astros, with the way that they pitched this year,
you're able to put up five runs, you feel like
you're gonna win that ball.
Speaker 7 (02:22:15):
Let me ask you, do you want somebody just to
have the breakout game, and don't say Christian Walker because
we all know that that's just kind of wushing on
false hope.
Speaker 6 (02:22:22):
At this point, I'll go Hosel two va. He said,
well in this park, just why why not to get
him going?
Speaker 4 (02:22:27):
Is keep it going.
Speaker 7 (02:22:28):
Like like honestly, the yiner das that we've seen over
the last fifteen games. If I can have two seventy
five with a couple of home runs and a few
extra base hits, pair that with estoc Peredes in the
three hole, and then what you're getting to Jeremy Panna
as long as you have runners on, I mean, because
you know that you're gonna get a single once by
Jake Myers, Zach Decenzo.
Speaker 4 (02:22:46):
What are we going to continue to see from him?
Speaker 7 (02:22:47):
Can Brendan Rodgers be batting his weight, not striking out
with the two to one count in his favor?
Speaker 4 (02:22:53):
As long as you have that yiner getting on.
Speaker 7 (02:22:56):
Basis, I think it's just blessing in disguises in itself,
because if you're getting the version that you thought you
were seeing last.
Speaker 6 (02:23:00):
Year, Yeah, it's gonna be a fun series and we're
looking forward to it. As you heard Gordy mentioned you
get MLB Network tonight, you get Apple TV tomorrow, and
then you get Roku on Sunday. But the constant in
all of this is Robert Ford and Steve Sparks, and
you get to listen to them on the iHeartRadio app
when you put Sports Talk seven ninety preset number one.
Speaker 4 (02:23:22):
So hopefully we're.
Speaker 6 (02:23:23):
Hearing a lot more, you know, like we heard in
the opening of the show today the highlights and Essac
partis sitting the home run and we got finally a
ce signor from Sparking, which every time I see him,
I'm like, you warm my heart when you do that.
One one of my favorite Sparkys is Goodwood, Good Word, Goodwood.
Speaker 7 (02:23:45):
This being in a being basically a mini May two
point zero. Do you think Estock's gonna go deep?
Speaker 5 (02:23:49):
See?
Speaker 6 (02:23:50):
It's funny too because I had a caller on the
postgame show the other night that I was like, should
we be concerned that he's only hitting this home runs
at dyk In Park. I was like, look, man, you've
got about one hundred and twenty plus games left. He'll
hit a home run on the road, So I guess
you know what, go Since you put me up to it.
I'll go ahead and say it.
Speaker 4 (02:24:05):
He homers this weekend at at Global Life or whatever
the hell they call it. I go, Yanna gets a homer,
I get East, I gets a homer. I think Christian
Walker gets a home run. All right, there, I go.
Speaker 6 (02:24:16):
He's put some he's put some good swings. I mean,
I think that's something that can't be lost. I mean,
gets robbed of a base hit in the first inning
last night, you know, I mean missed a little bit
going to center field, which you know that's that happens.
I get all of that, and then of course you
know he still had the strikeouts. Sure, but like that's.
Speaker 7 (02:24:32):
Where I have the problem when people compare him to
Jose Bray. You Jose Bray was swinging that pitches.
Speaker 4 (02:24:39):
Fifteen feet outside of the box.
Speaker 7 (02:24:41):
He's making good contact, he's in wards' Parky good Wood.
It's just it's landing in the right position too. For
a player to make a a for somebody to make
a play.
Speaker 4 (02:24:50):
Good Wood's a good thing, all right. I mean, you're
not wrong.
Speaker 6 (02:24:55):
I just I wanted to see if I could put
you on the spot right there now, and I didn't fail, clearly.
Speaker 4 (02:25:01):
I can't. I can't. What do you even come back
of that one?
Speaker 6 (02:25:03):
You have to be prepared, ye is the moral of
the story. I mean, trust me, the guy who usually
sits in this chair that I'm sitting in the day. Yeah,
it's a daily occurrence with that guy already put on
the spot every single Yeah. I was gonna say, I mean,
and we throw that out there so that in thirty
minutes Matt and Ross can steal it too. Hey, that's stealing. Yeah,
here you go. Yeah, hey, you know you got four
hours of radio to fill. You gotta be able to
find ways to entertain the audience. That's what we try
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to do around here. All right, Uh, the story again
that won't go away. Well, it's just because there's new
things every single day. Yes, Bill Belichick, we'll do We'll
dive into it.
Speaker 4 (02:25:34):
Right here. It is Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:25:37):
I had to live The Sean Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 6 (02:25:42):
In golf's second major going on right now? All right,
Bill Belichick, the story that just won't go away. So
a couple of days ago, and know Cole, you guys
had this on the A team. Bill Belichick sitting down
with ESPN there at the acc Spring meetings, and of
course Jordan Hudson story that just won't go away.
Speaker 4 (02:26:00):
Well good on ESPN.
Speaker 6 (02:26:01):
For actually asking and getting an answer about the relationship
that seemingly has been causing waves, not only for people
around Bill Belichick but also for him in general.
Speaker 4 (02:26:15):
Really off to the side.
Speaker 14 (02:26:16):
It's a personal relationship and she doesn't have anything to
do with UNC football. I'm excited to be back in
the coaches meetings and getting ready for June and then
August when we get the training camp, so she will
be a big recruiting month for us, and then August
we'll start get ready for the season.
Speaker 4 (02:26:32):
Hey, Bill, blink twice if you need help, buddy.
Speaker 6 (02:26:35):
So I'm glad that Bill said that of it's a
personal relationship.
Speaker 4 (02:26:39):
She has nothing to do with you and CE football.
Speaker 6 (02:26:42):
Because The Daily Mail had a story a couple of
days ago that Jordan was approached to take part in
this season of Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 4 (02:26:50):
Oh God, but she asked.
Speaker 6 (02:26:53):
She was asked to be a part of it, but
she said that she would have to decline because that
will be the same time that Bill will be co
and she wants to be there for him at UNC,
so she wants to focus on UNC football.
Speaker 4 (02:27:05):
So which is it, Bill? So she wants to be
in charge of UNC football, That's what it is, all right.
Speaker 6 (02:27:11):
So I'm glad you said that because we've also had
the reports that UNC officials getting annoyed with everything, and
you know, even to the point where, you know, we've
had the Pablo Tory reports out there of you know,
wondering if, indeed, you know, un C is going to
finally just tell them, Hey, Bill, this isn't worth it anymore, Like,
go ahead, move on, We'll just wait till June.
Speaker 4 (02:27:30):
First, that one million dollar built is right there for the.
Speaker 6 (02:27:33):
Taking, and a un C official talking with the Washington
Post talking about the relationship and saying that, you know,
it's a personal relationship, all of that, but also adding
this quote, the two have to decide what they're going
to do, and they do it.
Speaker 7 (02:27:50):
Let me ask you, when you come to work, do
you make sure that you leave your livelihood that's outside
of these parameters at home?
Speaker 4 (02:27:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (02:27:58):
So why is that any different for a coach that
has never been on the sidelines as a head coach
for the Saturday game. I get it's Bill Belichick. I
have no problem admitting that this is one of the
greatest coaches that we have seen at the NFL level,
six Super Bowl championships, working alongside with Tom Brady, helping
create a dynasty out in New England.
Speaker 4 (02:28:19):
You're back at square one, buddy. Let me make this.
Speaker 7 (02:28:21):
Abundantly clear to you. You weren't wanted by the NFL.
Nobody was interviewing you, nobody thought of you as even
a first or second phone call. And now you get
the opportunity to continue to coach. You get the opportunity
to continue to be at the forefront of modern football.
You get the opportunity with a relaxed schedule. Have you
(02:28:43):
seen unc schedule this year? It's TCU, It's Clemson and
a bunch of no namers. You can win and go
to a college football playoff. But now you have to
decide if Jordan Hudson, a twenty four year old that
was born circa nine to eleven, is going to have
a say on the college football program.
Speaker 4 (02:29:01):
If anybody else did that, they would.
Speaker 7 (02:29:03):
Be fired on the spot. Why are we giving you
away with this?
Speaker 6 (02:29:08):
Well, I mean, just what I can't understand with all
of this is, well, first, I mean to go back
to the second thing I brought up there. Why is
she even on Dancing with the Stars?
Speaker 4 (02:29:18):
Where is she a star?
Speaker 2 (02:29:19):
That?
Speaker 4 (02:29:20):
I mean, are there are?
Speaker 6 (02:29:21):
It's a loose term with Dancing with the Stars because
they will have people on there. Hey, you know this
guy was on Punky Brewister back in nineteen eighty. It's
like you just kind of told me that they're not
really a star.
Speaker 7 (02:29:33):
They were relevant back in the eighties. That's great, But
I mean that's just the thing.
Speaker 6 (02:29:36):
It's like I almost think it's like kind of like
a little bit of a joke of hey, Dancing with
the Stars, was Alfonso Roberto really a star?
Speaker 7 (02:29:44):
I mean, to an extent, I still know what I'm
sound usual? Is I still do the Carlton every once
in a while, all right? That one's different.
Speaker 4 (02:29:50):
That one I think is Dave Cooley. Is he still
a star? Probably not? Okay? What about what was your name? U?
Speaker 2 (02:29:57):
Not?
Speaker 4 (02:29:57):
Trisha? Paid us up?
Speaker 7 (02:29:58):
The chick who played on a You just answered your
own question? The wonder your's chick?
Speaker 5 (02:30:03):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (02:30:03):
Wendy, yeah, Wendy. Yeah, I'd go with her. Why not?
Is she still a star?
Speaker 8 (02:30:07):
Though?
Speaker 2 (02:30:08):
No?
Speaker 4 (02:30:08):
So that's the point.
Speaker 7 (02:30:09):
But at least you know them from something else other
than being the side chick of Bill Belichick. That's the
difference there in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (02:30:18):
Like, that's what it is.
Speaker 7 (02:30:19):
Name one thing that Jordan Hudson has done to make
her stardom. Actually she was the second runner up, which
is a better place for bronze medal at the main
Miss Patchet, Miss main Patchant.
Speaker 6 (02:30:31):
See that's the thing too, is you know, it's the
old thing of undefeated and all of that, which you know,
you know what the saying is, I don't I don't
have to waste anybody's time.
Speaker 4 (02:30:39):
But you didn't even win the dang thing.
Speaker 6 (02:30:42):
It's not like it's well, I mean, that's that's the
one right there is you don't win Miss Maine. But
also number two. It's like here in Houston, we got
good looking women around here, right sure, I could step
out this building and fifteen women are better looking than
she is, probably, I.
Speaker 7 (02:30:56):
Mean that's the three she's She wasn't even the number
one in Maine. And this is Houston we're talking about.
You're not that special, you really aren't. That's the infuriating
part when it comes to Jordan Hudson is that you're
allowing a twenty four year old who has no contact
with college football, no contact with the sport whatsoever, be
(02:31:18):
in charge of your daily life.
Speaker 4 (02:31:21):
And the worst part is is that.
Speaker 7 (02:31:23):
We can't even focus in on Bill doing the coaching
because the entire storyline is based around his.
Speaker 4 (02:31:28):
Relationship with her. So the name doesn't continue to stop.
Speaker 7 (02:31:32):
Like Dan, people in US Weekly know about Bill Belichick's
US Weekly.
Speaker 4 (02:31:38):
Yes, people magazine, it's US Weekly.
Speaker 7 (02:31:40):
Whatever I see like, like, that's how little I know
about that lifestyle that I know that people are reading.
Why US Weekly? Yeah, of course it is, am I
supposed to know what that magazine is like. But I
can tell you those people now know about Bill Belichick's
dating life. That's a problem. Like, name one person with
a weekly, as you would like to say it, Name
(02:32:02):
one person that actually cares about college football that usually
reads that.
Speaker 6 (02:32:06):
Well part of I mean, people would say that maybe
this is Bill just saying exactly what he said all along.
I don't care about what people you know say about
me outside whatever you know, just the different things and
even that he said in that CBS interview. But you've
got a hell of a way of completely going the
extreme opposite direction of where you were sure that now
it's created the problem that initially you were trying to
(02:32:27):
guard against.
Speaker 7 (02:32:28):
You had to go hire an outside PR firm to
try to mitigate what happened with the CBS interview. And
the worst part is is that now you're doing another
interview with Michael Strahan, and the first question that we're
asking ourselves is where's Jordan sitting throughout the entire process?
Will she be micromanaging each question? And will Michael Strahan,
(02:32:49):
who is in a good job of building himself as
a very qualified reporter in my opinion, for what Good
Morning America wants him to do, will he be able
to ask and have a legit sit down chatter with
Bill Belichick that won't be determined by certain questions that
Shordan doesn't want him to answer.
Speaker 6 (02:33:05):
This is a classic case, honestly, of when you win,
people are willing to They're willing to put up with
certain things like for example, I mean Greg Popovich. Sure,
you know, he gets into politics, starts doing all of that.
He fell out of favor with a lot of people because, well,
guess what he wasn't doing anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:33:23):
He wasn't winning Steve Curve for example.
Speaker 6 (02:33:25):
But the point is what Belichick is, He's not winning
the way that he won when he had Tom Brady
there that I think he still believes in that mindset.
I can create the narrative. I can control the narrative,
whereas people now are looking at him and saying, no,
you cannot. You don't have Tom Brady anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:33:40):
Okay, don't.
Speaker 6 (02:33:41):
You don't have those teams anymore. You don't have the
success that's following you. No, you can't humor me. North
Carolina goes ten and two this year.
Speaker 7 (02:33:49):
They make the College Football Playoff, they lose in the
first round, and then this nonsense starts.
Speaker 6 (02:33:54):
No matter what he does in that town, it will
not matter as opposed to what they have inside the
basketball arena.
Speaker 7 (02:34:00):
When you win football games, and when that becomes this
story of Chapel Hill, then you can start to have
this negative press around you. You haven't coached a game,
and the only thing that we're talking They landa one
of the best transfer portal quarterbacks in Geo Lopez. They
have such an easy schedule, they have such a balanced
recruiting class this past year, and nobody cares because the
(02:34:21):
only thing that we're focusing in on is his relationship
with the twenty four year old.
Speaker 4 (02:34:24):
Well, I mean it's also too.
Speaker 6 (02:34:26):
I mean it's a thing where you're at a job
that I think he looked at the beginning of, well,
there's some potential here because they've won here before, and
I mean, if you win enough, you're going to have
people that where maybe you can raise the expectations of
the program. But again, it also gets to for what
I was just talking about, wanting to control of the narrative. Ye,
you try to tell that media there, oh, hey, you know,
(02:34:47):
we're doing things a little bit different here at Carolina Football.
They're gonna be like, all right, fine, we'll go over
there to the basketball program, because we know that everybody
cares about that. And you're really just here as somebody
that can kind of supplement this thing.
Speaker 7 (02:34:58):
You're here as a name and a brand. That's all
you are at this point. You're you're basically what we
would consider Jordan brand. Jordan doesn't come and visit. Guess what,
we don't really care about you either. You think he
makes it a week one.
Speaker 6 (02:35:10):
I think he coaches this season, but I mean, uhh,
you know after that, I've got my doubts about how
long he still does.
Speaker 7 (02:35:18):
I'm fully invested that he does one year, one year,
and then we go to Steve. Steve is and he
got the job, I think because if Steve wants to
become a head coach, and nobody's going to give him
unless they sign on the dotted line, the heat ecton line.
Speaker 6 (02:35:29):
Remember a buddy in mine when they showed Steve Belichick,
you know, with the long hair and all that. Well that,
but also too, you said that Steve Belichick was the
guy that would have the uh, the new dy magazines
and everything else in the tapes in high school that
you know you want the good stuff.
Speaker 7 (02:35:46):
You go see Steve, where's the body's bill? Well, no,
it's not that, where's the body's garth? Where's the bodies?
That's Steve Belichick literally the exact same level.
Speaker 6 (02:35:55):
He talks just like him too. When you hear him talk,
it's it's kind of eerie. But anyway, all right, read
you a huge fan. Well, if you are, you're gonna
love this. If not, well maybe you'll still be intrigued.
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Speaker 1 (02:37:32):
This is the Sean Salisbury show SALESA.
Speaker 4 (02:37:37):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 6 (02:37:39):
How do you feel about reboots to shows? You know,
I mean of any variety sitcoms, even spin offs, any
of those things, Like, you know, is there any of
them that you have out there that you're like, oh, yeah, hey,
you know what, that might have been just as good
as the show.
Speaker 7 (02:37:54):
Futurama I was really excited for when it came back
to Hulu, got very disappointed. It took two episodes in
for me to go Nope, not the same time. Good,
not my Futurama. Yeah, he's not my president, he's not
my Futurama, not my Matt grogging.
Speaker 6 (02:38:07):
There you go, all right, Well, there are many of
them that are at least in the works to be done.
And the first one as they spin off of the Office,
we remember it thunder Mifflin right there the Scranton branch
there in Pennsylvania. Well, this is going to be a
spin off called The Paper. It's going to stream on
(02:38:29):
Peacock and the description of the show is the documentary
crew that immortalized under Mifflin's Scranton branches in search of
a new subject when they discover a historic Midwestern newspaper
and the publisher who is trying to revive it. As
of right now, the premise of the show is that
(02:38:50):
it is the Toledo truth Teller, is the Paper, and
the only holdover from the Office is Oscar Nuniez. It
does not appear that any other cast members are going
to be a part of this.
Speaker 4 (02:39:04):
I'm actually interested.
Speaker 7 (02:39:05):
I would watch this one mainly because of I hated
The Office and I want to find a reason to
like something of that mockumentary series. So doesn't have Jim,
I can't stand Jim's character, doesn't have Pam hated Pam.
Speaker 4 (02:39:18):
I hate Jim, and Pam.
Speaker 7 (02:39:20):
I Hate Jim came off as so condescending that I
was I don't like those type people. Dwight was better
written character for me because of I liked that he
was so outlandish.
Speaker 4 (02:39:31):
That he was usually he was a massive prankster, right.
I loved that. That was it. Dwight was so easy
to be able to prank. He was great. I loved it.
But I hate Jim and Pam.
Speaker 7 (02:39:41):
So I'll give the show a shot because I actually
liked Oscar.
Speaker 4 (02:39:44):
We might not get to the last one. But what
about American Gladiators. I never watched it when it was on,
so I don't know for sure.
Speaker 6 (02:39:50):
The Mizzed is set to host American Gladiators and it's
going to make its return to Amazon Prime Video. I
love Gladiators as a kid. I used to watch it
every single week KPRC two. That's the that's the Obstacle
Course show, right, yeah, yeah, Well I'll give the shot
because I think it's probably better.
Speaker 4 (02:40:06):
Than American Ninja Warrior.
Speaker 6 (02:40:07):
This will be the third time that they've tried to
do this, actually second time, sorry, because you had hul
Cogan and Leila Ali where the hosts of it. Where
you had Larry's Zanka and I can't remember the dark
haired guy that was part of it. I'm sure somebody
on Twitter will tell you, but the Miz will be
doing it this time. I feel like you have to
bring back you know, past Gladiators too. I mean even
you know some of them that might still be in
(02:40:28):
decent enough shape. Those people got screwed, you know that, right.
Speaker 7 (02:40:31):
Yeah, it was predetermined before they ever took the sick
to state rights.
Speaker 4 (02:40:35):
No, that's not what I'm talking about in terms of
getting screwed. I'm talking about getting screwed on the money.
Speaker 5 (02:40:39):
Oh right.
Speaker 6 (02:40:40):
Most of them like were pretty destitute afterwards because like
they made very little doing the actual show, and the
guy that created it basically just kept it all.
Speaker 4 (02:40:49):
They did a thirty for thirty on it. I will say,
I will actually check.
Speaker 7 (02:40:53):
In on this one because I never was into American
Gladiators when it first came out because I was too young.
Speaker 6 (02:40:57):
All right, final one here, what about the recreation that's
been about fifteen years since it was on the air.
Speaker 4 (02:41:04):
King of the Hill coming to Hulu.
Speaker 7 (02:41:06):
Britney Murphy's not in it. I'm out, that's my role.
If somebody dies, I can't do it. Lou Anne was
that her character character, So she's out, so I can't
get to it.
Speaker 6 (02:41:14):
You can find somebody that's got an annoying voice, or
you can be able to voice the character.
Speaker 4 (02:41:18):
It'll be fine. Is this gonna be with Bobby being
old and all that?
Speaker 6 (02:41:22):
See, that's what I wonder too, Like, I haven't seen
very many details in terms of like you have to
believe like everybody I saw the older.
Speaker 4 (02:41:28):
I saw the property.
Speaker 6 (02:41:29):
Just keep it like the Simpsons, where for thirty years
you've had Bart and Lisa and everybody be the same age.
Speaker 7 (02:41:34):
The promo image has them where Hank's still the same age.
So it's like, did Bobby just get older? Is it
so gonna be played as like a thirteen year old?
Speaker 4 (02:41:42):
Oh? Yes, say?
Speaker 6 (02:41:42):
I mean I feel like you have to have Hank
with gray hair at this point, you know, and you
have to have boom Hower.
Speaker 7 (02:41:47):
Dale's got to be dead by this way, Dale's gotta
be dead. Dale's well, Dale's alive in the show. Apparently
Peggy's got to have white hair at this point. I
would think so that'd be my role at this point.
It would be fun.
Speaker 6 (02:41:58):
Mike Judge, everything he touches is an absolute work of gold. Cole,
appreciate your work today, man anytime. Yeah, good man, you're
gonna be back in with us again tomorrow, all day tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (02:42:07):
He's Triple Emmanuel Elmore. I'm Dan Matthews.
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It is The Shawn Salisbury Show, The Matt Thomas Show
with Ross coming up next from ten to two. And
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
The other two tone bat. Here's the three to two
and that is strike three. Call on the inside corner
got him with a ninety two mile an hour two
seamer and Colton Gordon has his first big league strikeout.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
This one's great good. What the left season? Your paradis
loves Diking Park.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
That's his sixth home run of the year, and the
Astros are on the board. First pitch, and that is
ripped down the left field line, hooky well. It's stay
fair at sure Well and bounds all the way into
the corner. Dubon scores, Paya trades places with them at second,
an RBI double.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
It's three to two Royals.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It's the one zero and Duban lifts it down the
left field line, poking away from Waters long run.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
That's gonna drop in for a hit.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
McCormick racing to third, he gets away from Tony Parishtika
McCormick will score in the second.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Dubon we're tied at three.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Here's the two.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Painia lifts this one over the head of Garcia and
then the left field Dubon racing around third waters double
clutches throws the second. It's an RBI single for Pnia
and the Astros says come back to take a fourth
to Rae lead Tania four for four, one to one,
and Pascatino lifts it in the center buyers coming in.
(01:46):
He's there, makes the catch and that is the ballgame.
Theank Houston Astros comes from behind and take two out
of three from the Kansas City Royals, winning tonight four
to three.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
There you go, Robert Ford telling you all you need
to know, and with that we say away we go
and good morning. Here it is the Sean Salisbury Show
Sports Talks seven ninety sans Sean this morning and tomorrow morning.
That means you get Cole Thompson in here. You're basically
me now I am turning into you. I was gonna say,
you know that, right, that's not good for you.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Oh believe me.
Speaker 7 (02:17):
I've already kind of impressed and laid down on my
body that I'm not gonna sleep, I'm always gonna be working.
I better have an apartment literally, right, across the street
from here, because of.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I'm gonna get called in. I'm coming up with the miners.
That's what I'm here for. That's it.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
That's it for sure. I mean, it's it's pretty much.
You know, hey, we need this. Hey, can you go
do Sunday night football? Then come in and do the
morning show. That's that's always my fait.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
It's always a good time, you know. Sure, Listen, I
only live once. I'm still young, i still have my youth.
I still feel like that I have a lot to
learn and grow from, which means I'm not ready to
go ahead and throw myself off of the building.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
So I'm in a good spot right now. It's a
good morning.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
As long as you got that outlook, Cole, You're doing good.
But yeah, Sean gonna be out today tomorrow, and he'll
also be out next week too. We'll get him back
the following week after Moroial Day. But I'm gonna have
Colon here today. A lot of astros. Of course, the
Texans drop their schedule, or at least the NFL does,
and the Texans part of it.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I thought that by the way, four.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
National TV games. The only thing that kind of drew
me off sides. I mean, you know, using football Engo.
The only thing that I saw was the TBD at
the end, and then I'm like, like, do they not
have opponents? And then it took me a second for
the graphic that they had on you know, the Texans is.
I was like, I don't see any opponents, like where
are they? And then I saw, oh, Chargers and Colts.
(03:38):
So I do appreciate that the NFL is just kind
of like, we're probably gonna end up flexing those games.
One of them might be a Sunday night game, maybe
the Chargers, and then the Colts game will probably be
the Saturday afternoon game.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
One of them's gonna be the Saturday game.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
One of them is going to be a Sunday stand
alone game. So they'll be five total standalone games for
the Texans in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
I'm not complaining about it. I think the main thing
is we all or hype what is the schedule leak?
And that's the part that sometimes gets frustrating because of
you don't know what really is going to happen, but
you know, the opponents like it doesn't change in my opinion,
other than two things Number one, when is your bye week?
(04:16):
And number two how many Prime times games you have?
That's it because everything else is just already embedded in.
You know when you're facing off against certain teams, you
know that you're playing the NFC West, you know that
you're playing the AFC West.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well, have they gotten any better?
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Are they still the same underappreciated or underwhelming teams that
we saw in twenty twenty four? Does that change the
way that I look at the team?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Not at all.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
I still think of the Texans as in this realm
of ten to eleven wins, favorites to win the AFC South. Oh,
instead of actually traveling on the road to close out
the year against Tennessee, you're welcoming in Indianapolis.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
So it still is a divisional matchup.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Yeah, and you know, the Texans, as I mentioned, getting
those four nationally televised games, are gonna have two on
Monday Night Football, one Sunday Nights, and one Amazon Prime.
The prime game gonna be the Bills here. But is
it safe to say that you're not really interested in
doing the let's go week by week.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Hey, that's a win, that's a loss.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
It could be the exact same as I did last year.
Like here, okay, dude, here's the thing. They play in
a mantile division. Tennessee is still rebuilding, Indianapolis is still rebuilding.
Jacksonville cool, he got Travis Hunter. I hated the trade
for the second that it was made. I don't believe
that much in James Gladstone, even though I think he's
a better GM than Trent Bulkey.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
But a hell of a speech to start off press
conference was low.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
I mean, like, let's call it as is, Trent Bulkey
versus James Clodstone. You or I who's never worked in
football operations, is a better GM than Trent Bulky. That's
how low of a bar you have out in Duval County.
You're still the favorites to win the division. You still
have a clear separation in my opinion right now between
Kansas City, Baltimore, Buffalo, and You're probably better than half
(05:55):
the teams that you're gonna face off against in the NFC.
Tampa Bay's probably at your level, maybe a little bit
better than them. You're better than San Francisco, You're better
than Arizona. You're probably at the same level as what
you want in the two Los Angeles teams.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
That's ten and seven. There you go.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
I mean, that's what they've done the last couple of years,
and we'll see if that means that they can get
past the divisional round for the first time.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
But Dan, is.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
Anybody complaining if you're ten and seven in this division
because that's a guaranteed playoffs potch Sure, that's I think
the difference here is that you're still going to the playoffs.
You're still gonna get that crappy Saturday morning or Saturday
afternoon ESPN Flex wild Card game. You're gonna beat a
team that you're an underdog against because of it's been tradition,
(06:35):
and then you're gonna play as the number four seed
against the number one seed and lose on the road.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Like that's where we are right now.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Well, I mean, if that's the case, then I would
say that probably the guys over in that building, they're
probably the ones that you throw out ten and seven.
They're like, oh man, no, that's not what we want
to be. But I mean, you know they've said all
the right things. I mean, you were out of practice
last week. I think so for rookie Mini camp, and
I mean I liked what Damiko Ryans said to the cookies,
(07:00):
and I mean, I said at the time, he wasn't
just talking to the rookies, he was talking to everybody.
I mean of just like you know the things that
have gone on here. Winning the division is not enough.
Getting into the playoffs is not enough. Like we have
to have higher goals here in order to be able
to try to reach those I.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Don't disagree it's not enough.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
The problem is is that where do you find the
separation between the other contenders. That's where my brain always
continues to go, because it's not a CJ thing. CJ
had his moments last year that were great. He also
had his moments where he struggled. The Detroit game is
one that I will constantly throw out there.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
It was on CJ. It was a terrible second half.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
The two interceptions you cannot afford to have, especially when
you're up by eighteen. But you also can't afford to
have your quarterback running for his life like a chicken
with his head cut off for the entire second half
of the season. You can't afford to have the highest
payroll for an offensive line and give up the third
most sacks in the NFL, and it feels like that, Yeah,
(07:59):
you got rid of.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Some of the problems. Chris Strausser, he's out of a job.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Bobby Sloweck, best elect to you in South Beach, Nick
Kaylee walcome to the party.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You know how to utilize tight ends.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
Let's utilize what is Dalton Schaltz's contract to the fullest,
which again we could both eye roll on that one.
But do you feel like that the offensive line is
more improved? Do you feel like that you've taken the
necessary steps at the wide receiver position now with Tank
Dell gone, with Stefan Diggs gone, that you're still going
to be in that realm of hey, we're ten and seven,
but we're a good ten and seven. We talked about
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this in college football all the time. Not every schedule
is the same. You and I complained like no one's
business about SMU not playing anybody, and then the second
that they did, what happened.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
They got eviscerated, Like.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
There were planes from Dallas flying out in the third
quarter from Happy Valley because if they just had a
sad time out in state college because they finally had
to play somebody.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Not every schedule is built the same.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
The Texans may end up finishing with the third best record,
but do you feel like that they're the third best
team in the AFC right now?
Speaker 6 (09:01):
I mean, just without completely knowing what Buffalo or you know,
Baltimore of at it or even the Charger or excuse me,
the Chiefs. You know, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm
just I'm being honest with you, Like you know, it's
one of those things that I mean, I have a
hard enough time being able to catch up with what's
happening on the college football level sure than to even
you know, remember, oh, yeah, hey, that's right, they added
this guy this soft season, or oh they lost that
(09:22):
guy the soft season, like any of any of those things.
So I'm sure probably when we get closer to camp
then I'll know that. But I mean, at least we
know what times they're playing. We were joking yesterday that
we're surprised that you and Wex didn't do a schedule
re lease.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Special, believing I swear I thought that I was gonna
get called in like, hey, here we go. Always it's
Astros game. We don't have to worry about that, honest opinion.
After the draft, when you look at the Texas, how
much Bayer. Do you feel about them?
Speaker 6 (09:48):
I mean, I feel probably about the same. I mean,
it's exactly And Sewan asked me the same thing. I said,
it's easy. I did a call right after the draft
and somebody asked me, you know, do you think that
they're a much better team? I said, I think that
if their offensive line plays better. Sure, But I mean
that's that's the first and foremost and the only thing
(10:09):
is the offensive line. If it's not improved whatsoever, then
you're the exact same team that you were.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Is it bad that I said that the Texans didn't improve,
but I don't think anybody else in the division did either.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
No, No, yeah, I mean you were. I think you
were far and away better than any other team of
the division. I mean, the only thing that is kind
of a little bit of what could be an equalizer
is if finally you're able to unlock Trevor Lawrence. That's
about it. But aside from that, I don't see there
being any real competition for them in this division.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
And you're putting all the pressure on Liam Cohen to
duplicate the success that he had in Los Angeles with
matthe them what he had with Baker Mayfield. And by
the way, you don't have the same weaponry, you don't
have the same offensive line, you don't have the same defense,
and you also now are having final say, but the
Texans Los Angeles Week one, Buccaneers Week two, Jags Week three,
Titans week four, Week five at the Ravens bye week,
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then Seattle Seahawks forty nine ers.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Back at home.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
Then the Denver Broncos come to town. You take on
Jacksonville week eleven at Tessee. In week twelve, Week thirteen,
Thursday Night football against the Buffalo Bills. Fourteen against the
Indianapolis Colts at Lucas Oil Stadium, back to back road chips,
going up against Kansas City in aarra awhead.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
That'll be the Sunday night game seven to twenty twelve. Seven.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Then you return home against the Arizona Cardinals Las Vegas
Raiders at Los Angeles when we don't know, and then
of course you close out the year no surprise, I
guess the divisional opponent in Indianapolis.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
So that's the schedule before you're right there. If you
missed it, well you know, I don't know what to
tell you. But anyway, cold Tom's staying with us this
morning here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
We do need to get into the Astros.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
We'll do that coming up, because some really good things
last night from the Hometown nine.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And also to something.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
That at least kind of scratched the itch of frustration
that you might have with them.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
We'll talk about that.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Also to the NBA playoffs rages on the Celtics keeping
their season alive to force a Game six against the
Knicks up in New York, and the Timberwolves say see
you later to the Golden State Warriors. But the Astros
conversation is on tap next and also about an hour
and fifteen from now, my good buddy Jared Sandler from
(12:20):
the Rangers Radio Network. Of course, the Lone Star Series
gets going, so we'll be talking that. Chris Gordy gonna
hop in here at nine o'clock. Here again, it is
Sean Salisbury's show. Cole Thompson in for Sean. It is
Sports Socks seven to ninety.
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Let's go. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Last night's able to You know, one of the things, too, Cole,
that we've talked about is, you know, just with with
the offense this year, with this team and just trying
to be able to find a way to get those
guys going. And you know, we have Dana Brown on
every single week and he says the same thing. Hey,
you know, just wait till this team gets hot with
(14:09):
the bats, and once they do that, then we can
reel off you know, so many wins in a row,
Like the Twins have just won ten in a row.
Cardinals just won what like, I mean nine of their
last ten, whether they shock. It's the John Gruden effect,
and I brought it up the other day. I've already
brought it up to members of the astros of saying, ay,
send him some gear because I mean that's Gruden's thing,
which I love. I love the Gruden uno because it's
(14:32):
just it's so funny, like how excited he gets, like
he gets a box from say Texas Tech, Oh, the
Texas Tech Red Raiders. Man, you know you got Danny
m Mondola. Spike Dikes was a great coach there. Oh
what a guy coached with my dad at one point.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You know what, man, you do it. You're doing a
great impression of him.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Man, I.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Do what again? Yeah, you're a hell of a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
But but see, I mean, you know, so wan't.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Sell me on Kent State an Owen twelve football team
to be excited about in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
But I mean, I've just said though that if you
want to get this team going well, then first do that.
And then I'm assuming he'll probably be over at n
RG for training camp. So if he's there, have.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Him dropped by.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
But then the problem was, and I thought about this
as well, how many guys in that clubhouse would actually
know who he is.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
I'll tell you what, man like you you send me
a Christian Walker Jersey, I'll put you back on top.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I'll get you in the right set of mind. I
won't tell you what I would think. He's a Jake
Myers guy.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Oh that he is a thousand percent of Jake Myers
dude like ros Ville Real might be the president of
the Jake Myers fan club, but like from a national perspective,
John Gruden is about a thousand with Jake Myers.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
And then and then another guy.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
We said, because Dubond's a big football guy, So we
said that du Bond would probably know who he is,
Chaz Jake would know who he is. Ers would know
who he is probably yeah, And then you know, I'm
just trying to think of like any of the pitchers.
That would not mean Hunter Brown would probably know who
he is.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
Steve Ochred seems like a dude that definitely would know
who grew Sure, I definitely Steven Okred feels like a barstoolboy.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
But where we were going is that, you know, the
the lineup, I mean, you know, they've had their fits
and starts this year. They've when it's been good, it's
been all right, Hey, that's that's pretty good. I mean,
you know the other night, you lose that game on
Saturday and you score nine runs, you score those six
runs in that one inning, and you're kind of like, hey,
like start putting together at bats like that, like you
don't have to get it all back at once and
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a lot of times you're trying to do too much.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You're gonna get nothing out of it at all.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Well, I said after the game the night before that
the Bats did enough to be able to win.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
But aren't you tired of saying that? Well? Sure, And
that's and that's the frustration that I have.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
And that's you know, what I brought up on Twitter
last night is that it's just kind of to the
point where this is beyond angering at this point where
you're just like the pitching staff is absolutely pitching out
of their mind for you and continuing to keep you
in games and give you opportunities to lose games.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
You're the reason you're losing games. That's the problem.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
And then last night, I mean, as soon as I
throw that out there, then they score the two runs
there in the eighth inning, Like I went a little
John Taffer on him. That's the problem. Like, that's pretty
much what I did.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Like, you know, I feel like they're a failing bar owner,
and I've got to come in there and I've got
to try to be able to find a way to
get them to turn their fortunes around.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Can you spot the difference here?
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Three point fifteen two fifty six, two sixty seven, two
oh eight, two thirty four, two forty two.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
What stands out about that? Uh, the three fifteen, I
know who it is. It's Jeremy Pania. You do know
how the two oait is. It's Christian Walker.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Why is he still in the four hole? Why two strikeouts?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Last night?
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Azer for four at the plate, a six twenty five
ops and you're talking about growth, like, yeah, it's two thirty.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Four for Yanu Diaz. I get that.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
You want to know what he's been in the last
ten games, nearly three hundred, Victor Karantini, what he's been
able to do with the plate. Jake Meyer's batting three hundred,
and you have runners in scoring position, and you're putting
a guy who, yes, we know what he is at
his peak can be a thirty thirty doubles home run
two seventy five batting average, but he's not being that
(18:08):
right now. Like I get, the narrative is so redundantly
lazy when we're talking about jose A. Bray You and
Christian Walker. It's ridiculously bad. So stop doing it. Jose
Bray You was washed when he's signed here. Christian Walker
isn't but when you talk about change, you want to
(18:28):
get change.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Make a change to the lineup.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
If you gotta move Christian Walker down, just to the
sixth spot until he's batting his weight by all means,
do so, because a quarantee, he's holding his own. Yiner
is holding his own, Jake Myers is holding his own.
And to be completely frank, they've earned the app bats,
they've earned the extra eighth inning runner on second, two
outs opportunity to score. Christian Walker is costing you runs.
(18:52):
Christian Walker is the reason when we talk about these
bats waking up, you want.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
To see somebody else maybe wake up with the bat well.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
And it's not only you know, moving him down. I
mean here, and let me give you these six seventy
seven one one three thirty three ops. And that's a
couple of games that he's batted third, the nine games
that he's batted in the five spot three thirty three
with a one oho nine to nine ops. So there's
proof that it doesn't work. It's just it's at this
(19:22):
point it's stubbornness. I mean, there there is no other
way to say it. Oh, he's gonna get going, He's
gonna get and then My response is based off what
because the numbers clearly tell you right now that he's
not going to get going in that spot. And I understand, Oh, well,
you know, once we get jord on back, then of
course we can reconfigure the lineup.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Do it before?
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Okay, well, once you get Spencer Arraghetti back, we can
have a problem when it comes to the pitching rotation.
There you go, stop complaining about when somebody gets back,
start doing with what you know.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
You don't know when Jordon's coming back.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
So if you don't know when you're getting one of
your better hitters at the plate, and you have a
secondary option, whether it be Yiner, whether it be Krotini,
whether it be Shake Myers, who would Again, he may
not have a huge ops difference, but at least he's
making contact with the ball and landing in the right
spots to when a.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Runner is on.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
It gives you an opportunity to score more. And it
forced his managers to have to play the mind game
of especially Layton innings, what do I.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Do with my bullpen?
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Do I stay and leave a guy out there for
an extra pitch and that ends up costing me with
a three run homer or do I go to the
pen and make a change. But when you have a
guy like Christian Walker right now batting in that four hole,
and let's just say Esach Perettis, who again, we knew
he was gonna be a good fine for Houston. He's
been crushing it in the last week and a half.
He gets on base, it automatically costs you. You know
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that you're not advancing Esak and it's not because of
his speed, like something about the number fifteen and an
Astros player. You know, he's going to be probably one
of the slowest guys on the field at all times.
But it's because of who's at the plate, not who's
standing up first.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Well, I mean, and that's the thing. I mean, you
know last night where Parretis lines out the third, I
still was like, well, you kind of did yourself a
favor because I mean, you're gonna be in that situation.
It's two outs, runner on second and Christian Walker's up
the plate, and you know what's going to happen, Like name,
this isn't this isn't a bang on Christian Walker thing either,
Like I want the guy to do well. It's kind
of the similar thing of you know, Taylor Scott. I
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mean last you know, yesterday the news that came out
about him being DFA, that that was a legitimate response.
Like I wanted the guy to be able to figure
it out. I wanted him to be able to turn
it around. And clearly the Astros, just with where they
are on the schedule and where they are a roster
configuration wise, they said, all right, we can't keep the
sky around. Sorry, you get a chance to catch on
somewhere else. But like with Walker, I mean one with
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a four forty six ops, like you've got thirty games
to the eleven that you have in the other spots.
Eleven games is enough of a sample size to say, hey,
this guy's comfortable batting pretty much anywhere else than right here.
The example that I bring up is remember back in
the late nineties Derek Bell, where they would bat him
seven at a certain point. I was five, but yeah, okay,
(22:00):
so anyway, you know Derek Bell, they would bat him seven,
and I mean he would go through his struggles and
then they'd bat him in the two spots. And he
finally went to Larry Derker and said that's my spot,
like keep me right there, Like that's where I feel
like I get the best pitches for me. That's where
I feel like I can cause the most damage. Like
that's where I need to be. I just I feel
like I'm best in that spot in the order. Yeah,
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I'm not saying that Walker's going, you know, needs to
do that with Joe a Spota, But it's just like,
my god, like do you not have the numbers in
front of you to finally say, hey, maybe cleanup is
not his spots?
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Hey, I got a phone for you. Jeremy Pangan last
year was batt in about two forty two in the
six hole. He's batten three to fifteen leadoff. I think
something is working, Joe. I think something might have changed
to where you're in a pretty good position knowing that
number three is gonna get on base at least twice again.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Well last night it was four times a game and
he was the reason he won that game. So that
was the fun thing. But oh my god, I want.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
To pay him right now.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
I see that's yeah, that's that's That's another conversation we
can have here and probably will here as the course
of the morning goes. Wood see you right there. I
know we got into some Texans you know what the
rules are. If we've talked about it, it's fair games.
So we'll get you involved in the conversation also too
well to let you hear a little bit from Colton
Gordon who last night he impressed me a little bit,
(23:17):
so we'll absolutely do that as we continue both the
Texans and Astros conversation. Here it is a Sean Salisbury
Show again. Sean out today, tomorrow and next week. Cole
Thompson in for him. This morning. It is the Sean
Salisbury Show. Sports Talk seven ninety. The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
(23:40):
But what on the north side. Want's talk a little
Texans wood? What's going on?
Speaker 9 (23:45):
Yeah, man, I looked at the scarecrow and we go
go nine and eight. The biggest problem we have is
that we no longer have a bookend or on that
blind side to protect CJ. We already knew we had
problems with them coming up the mill, but now they're
gonna come everywhere because the best tackle, the best player
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offensive line that we have is Howard to big Howard,
you know, and then we're moving him back and forth
from left guard to right tackle, you know, and then
everybody else that Nick Caserio then brought in here has
been a project. Nick Caserio has proven one thing to
me that he cannot put an offensive line together. And
that's been our biggest weakness the last four years. Even
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before CJ got here, you know, Davis Mills was getting
killed because we didn't have a proper defensive line. All
we had was one defensive tackle on that left side
that can block everybody else. We rotate in, we try
to plug somebody in, and it's just been an issue.
And now we're going with a whole new lineup on
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the offensive line that a project. This is not promising,
This this is not gonna be a good year for TJ.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
I hope we don't get hurt, but pause.
Speaker 9 (24:58):
All the players.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Teams we have to play.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
Such as Buffalo, Kansas City, the Rams, Tampa Bay, I
mean Baltimore. You know, the vision is not the proper
is one. Once we go outside out of the vision,
once we start playing these playoff teams, that's gonna be
the issue. That's what's gonna get us killed on that defense.
But the defensive players coming in on that offensive line
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and they're not gonna be able to protect CJ.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
And we're gonna have issues, and I'm hoping we go.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Nine to eight. I appreciate the call, would I mean
about you really feel well?
Speaker 8 (25:32):
Well?
Speaker 6 (25:32):
The one that cracks me up is the if CJ
gets hurt, we're screwed.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
Of course, you lose your starting quarterback. Yes, your season's done.
You mean that every team in the NFL loses its
starting quarterback, they have to start preparing for the offseason.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Shocker?
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Well, I mean, And the thing I will agree with
them on is I've had my doubts about Nick Assario
with the offensive line. I feel like that every single executive,
no matter how good they are, everybody has a blind spot.
Like you know, Cole, you know that I used to
work in another place and Tom Mitrov was the GM there.
He could never find an edge rusher.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
He his great hair, can't find it an ed drusher.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
But I mean he was really good at being able
to find guys in the secondary. He would build a
good roster. It's just every single time it was okay,
hey is this the guy? And it was also too
where it was he kept taking these undersized guys thinking like, oh, well,
you know this guy's gonna be different than the other guy.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
No, they're not.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
They're gonna be the exact same. And Vic Beasley, he'll
have a good year when he's got Dwight Freeny there.
But aside from that, no, he's not gonna have that.
But most of the people in the audience don't care
about that example. But the point is, though with Casario,
I mean, who can you point to as being a
good offensive line signing or trade for or anybody that
he's gotten so far.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
George Fant, you could.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
Say Shaq Mason, You're one, because Shaq Mason year one
was probably the most stable and consistent offensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
The problem was he aged overnight.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
You saw him turn thirty one, and he started to
act like a thirty one year old that doesn't work out,
that doesn't end up having taken care of his taking
care of body, and its end up going to the gym,
doesn't end up eating right like He aged within a
span of thirteen months from being a quality guard to
an actual liability, so much so that when he went
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on the IR and came back, they were having conversations.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Do we really want this guy out here? Do we
really want him?
Speaker 6 (27:19):
They shouldn't have played him in Kansas City as soon
as soon as I saw that, I was just like
kind of like we were just talking about with Christian Walker.
I mean, it's stubbornness can get in your way. Oh well,
he's earned this spot. Oh you know, he's one of
the guys that got.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
It scatter Kenyon Green. And that's the problem.
Speaker 7 (27:33):
Here's something that I will say, and maybe it's me
being a bit bullish on Nick Cassio, and I hate
that I have to say this, but I'm actually kind
of intrigued to see how this offensive line is gonna
be built this year because it's not through the draft,
because of what do we know? Nick Cassio and the
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Texans cannot evaluate offensive line prospects. They can't because if
you and I could look in twenty twenty two and say,
there's an All Pro center in the works by the
name with Tyler Linderbaum that's still on the board coming
out of Iowa, Iowa does a pretty good job of
developing offensive lineman. Look at the laundry list of names
of the last two decades who would become fixtures of
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the NFL. Sure, Oh but but sec football Texas A
and M right there, homegrown talent right there, let's go
ahead and get the guy that strode in pass pro
against SEC competition, no problem whatsoever when he makes the
jump to the NFL. Okay, we knew right then and
there Kenyan Green was already in over his head. But
you didn't really draft this year. You went him out
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it in free agency. Now, I'm not saying that ed
Ingram is going to be a stable option. If anything,
he is going to be what is your sixth offensive lineman,
But you didn't use a draft pick on him to
where he's here for the next four years, and you
know if you can pay him out. Cam Robinson is
here for one year. It's a one year up to
fourteen million dollar contract.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
It may end up being eight games.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Until Arion's is ready. But if those eight games are
profitable enough to where CJ is finding a rhythm with
his wide receivers, CJ is finding a connectivity on what
works in Nick Kayley's offense, I'll want to pay for it.
Titus Howard, can we please do the smart thing this
year and move him into guard? Because of nobody wins
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when you have to wonder, hey, what position is he
playing this week? It's the spin the wheel on Titus
Howard and it always ends up coming up short. So
I'm kind of excited because of you're not using this
draft capital. Nick Cassio can draft defense backs. Nick Casserio
finds Day two steals Gems, Nico Collins, Jalen Petrie, Christian
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Harris had his moments. You talk about Tank Dell, Kaylon
Billock last year another Day two selection, Round three.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
He finds ways to do it. He drafted one offensive lineman.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
If you get quality played from tay Ersary over the
next four years, I'll call that a win.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
And maybe one of these free agents wh you hit
just one.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
I'm not asking for the entire board to swing in
favor a block for CJ.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Shot.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
I'm asking for one guy to be better than what
we saw last season Shack Mason and Keny and green Well.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
And the one thing too that I just can't get
out of my head with all of this is retaining
Kole Popovich and promoting him, Like that's the part to
me that I didn't really understand. I get it also
from the standpoint of there's familiarity with he and Nick
Kyley from their time in New England, all of that
kind of stuff, But like when you had a group
that was as poor as it was last year.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Sure, and you have a.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Group that I mean, you know there were at least
the thoughts that maybe there was a little bit of
dysfunction in that group. Whatever, All right, maybe you got
rid of some of the guys because you know, they
were the ones that weren't necessarily doing what was needed
in order to make sure that group was playing up
to the level that you hope they could. I mean,
you got rid of an all pro passage, But then
why would you not go outside the building to get
another voice for that group? Because of Nick Kayley and
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his relationship from New England, which unfortunately means in my opinion,
his relationship and Nick who wants to have control. That's
what it comes down to, and it's frustrating because if
I agree with you, why are you doing an internal
promotion at a position that was a weak point and
truly was the reason you lost the division round. I
don't think enough people pay attention to how horrendous that
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offensive line was on third and fourth down, because if
you connect twice, take away the careless penalties and the
conversations of oh well, Nick, you know the the NFL
needs patch Mahome on Prime Time because if they give
that hit to Will Anderson Junior, you gave up fourteen
pressures in six sacs on third and fourth down.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Nobody's went in that game.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
I I'm just glad that we don't get the dissertation
anymore on Wednesdays from uh Bobby Slowick. He seriously looked
like a guy up there that like the teacher called
on in class and you could clearly tell they didn't
read the assignment. Like you can eat Like that's seriously
every single you know question you asked him in I
Understean and he can't give things away.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
All that's your way through society, dude.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
It just was like every single week of you know, hey,
how can you guys run the ball better? Well, you know,
on the first down if we do this, blah blah blah.
It's just like that's not what I'm asking dude. Just
say how you can run the football better? That's all
you have to do.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I mean, welcome to Texans media.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
Every single day you go and asking a question, you
get another answer in return.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Wow, that's it, like like that's the norm.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Though.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
It's like I can't even be mad at Bobby when
you can't get a straight answer from anybody else the building.
He's just being told what to say, how to say it,
and how to smile.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Well, what I really would glean from it usually whenever
he would talk, was oh, you don't know what you're doing,
do you?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Oh? He knew what he was doing.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
He knew what he was doing, and it was always
gonna end with him get leaving in the off season.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
That was the problem.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Like that was it is that I think everybody knew
days were numbered, whether it be because of his ineptitude
or because of CJ.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Want somebody else calm plays. Maybe it ends up working out, though.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Well you know, I mean soon enough, you would think
somebody would say, hey, let's figure out how to stop
these twists and stunts. And well they never really figured
out how to stop those twists and stunts. And that's
why he's in Miami and that's why Nick Haley is
now the OC for this team. So anyway, like I said,
if some of you out there got some textans thoughts,
we'll weave those in as the show goes along. Do
you want to get back into the astros though? Because
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Colton Gordon impressive last night and I think even more
impressive after the game. Let you hear from him here
on at the Sean Salisbury Show. He is Cole Thompson
in for Shawn Dan, Matthew Stewart here with you also
Triple Emmanuel Elmore. This is Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
We're gonna have to turn this matter over to Sean
oh no more Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
As promised, let's hear from Colton Gordon after that start
last night, and you know he was able to go
four and a third, he gives up those three runs,
two of them you know on him as Sean dub
been able to come in. Great workout of him, but
he gives up that run that he had on base
there at second. But four and a third, seven hits
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three yarned runs, striking out three.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
And walking two.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I mean, all in all, an impressive outing from him,
but you know it's also to a lot to be
able to grow from. And that is exactly what Gordon
talked about after the game.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
First of all, really glad we won. I mean that
always helps everything.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Obviously obviously we're going to improve.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
But overall, first outing, I start checklessing in and give
us a chance to.
Speaker 11 (34:26):
Win at the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yeah, I mean everything he said was true.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
I mean where you know, the number one rule of
a spot starter is don't completely let the thing fall
off the tracks. But we're not asking you to be perfect.
We're just asking you to give us a chance to
be able to win the game. And that's exactly what
he did last night. Of you have a bullpen who
a couple of days ago had to be able to
piece things together with Ryan Gusto's rough start, and that's
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a couple of days removed from you know, having to
fill up eight and two thirds innings on the mound
like they had to against the Reds the night before,
with you know that, with Lance McCullers having the struggle
that he had, it was not good.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
And I was there for that was brutal. That was
hard to watch in person.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
I was gonna say, yeah, I've been the games like
that before where it's just like hmm, all right, so
you know, do I go ahead and leave now, or
do I, you know, maybe somewhat hope that this game
could be somewhat competitive, which the Astros were able to do.
I mean, that's the good thing. But I mean, I
mentioned Sean Duban. He was great last night for them.
An inning in two thirds, you get an inning at
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a calable or it's Brian King. I mean, just work
in stylence, man. I mean, that's pretty much what Brian
King has done. Is they've you know, now made him
the seventh inning guy, and he's been able to make
the most of his opportunities and done incredibly well in
the seventh inning. And he got the eighth last nights.
And then it sets up Josh Hater, who, by the way,
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I think we can agree that fresh Josh Hater is
the best.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Josh Hater. I'll take that ten times.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Comes in there last night, and I mean the two
or the a one that he threw to Bobby wit Junior.
I mean you could even hear the crowd after the
pop of the mitt, like it was kind of like,
oh man, he threw that one. It's different, It's it's
completely there.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
Like I remember when they signed Josh Hater and I
was saying, if they get the version of him of
twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen, Milwaukee, here's just thatslalling down.
Because if all you have to do is have a
one run lead going into the ninth inning.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Games over. He was lights out.
Speaker 7 (36:29):
If I get that version, fourteen pitches, ten of them strikes,
and I'm working two to one counts or a one
to two counts in my favor, game's over. I mean,
his fastball is so ridiculous, his off speed is phenomenal.
And the way that he's able to work the count
in his favor, and the way that he's able to
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manipulate batters, especially guys like Bobby Wood Junior group, who
for my money right now is probably the second or
third best hitter in baseball.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
And you know that he's just gonna buil it by you.
It's over. It's over.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
It still infuriates me that the former regime gave him
up for Carlos Gomez.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
I still am not over that. I don't think I've
ever told you the story.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
When I was working in New York and the trade
deadline came around, and I remember watching I was so
big in the minor leagues at the time, and just
seeing the farm system and where they were growing and Houston.
The two players I was begging they weren't going to
trade was Jake Mrisnik. For some reason, I don't know
why at this point you should have let him go.
And Josh Hater and I see on my phone right
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as soon as the deadline, you're right the like it's
like three p fifty nine fifty eight and it says
Carlos gomeas the Ashos all right, Jake Murriers think it
was fun. Oh no, Jake Burris is out in the deal,
but Josh Hater is. I audibly lost my mind. The
person that I was working for, I think, had to
calm me down.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
And say, just take a line. Just I knew he
was gonna be good.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
I knew Josh Hateren was gonna be something in low
and behold, now I have to pay him all this
money to keep him around.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
Well, I mean that's not even the one that gets
me most recently is you know Robert Ford kind of
almost sent me into a slight rage the other night
Disdained Dan almost came out for it of bringing up
the Christian Vasquez trade and William.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Or Bray you now being in the middle of the order.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
Guy for the Red Sox and you're like, huh, outfield troubles,
trying to find, you know, guys that can be able
to produce out there and you had that guy and
you're right, yeah, exactly exactly, So that was the one.
And then you bring Christian Vasquez here and you barely
even use them, so that was even more fun. So anyway,
you live and you learn, I guess, but a little
bit more from Gordon after last night's starts. You know,
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it's one of those that you got all day to
be able to think about your major league debut.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
So how did he handle it?
Speaker 10 (38:39):
I want to say nervous, I'd say fired up. I
mean I was like all day, I was just you know,
it's one of those days where you don't need any
caffeine or anything to just be like ready to wake.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Up and attack the day.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
And so yeah, I was.
Speaker 10 (38:51):
I was, like Julius says, having to hear the first
one out of the way, first strike out and get
my feet there anything.
Speaker 6 (38:56):
There, and one more from him to where the second
inning you get up a couple of those runs, but
still able to battle through it.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
It was for sure a battle.
Speaker 10 (39:04):
Uh some pitches that I thought I could have been
executed better, and then and then after that, I'm just
happy with, you know, limiting damage slip. Never want to
give up a run, you know, the goal was never
to do that, but Spaseball's going to happen, and again,
given our team a.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Chance to win and staying in it was was huge.
And that's kind of what I'm about as a pitcher.
Speaker 10 (39:25):
I mean, every time I go out there, I want
to leave with the game in range of us, you know,
either winning or coming about to win.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
And able to do that last night. So all in all,
good stuff out of him. I mean, again, we talked
about it in one of the couple of segments ago
that the pitching not the problem for this team. I
mean there are times like you know how there's that
that meme out there of the three headed dragon. Yeah,
and I've said that, you know, starting pitching bullpen, Well,
they're the strong looking dragons and then you get the
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third one and sometimes that's your lineup.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Is that your line up?
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Larly?
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (39:56):
Okay, are you excited for this pitching goal that we're
going to see over the next four days Arlington?
Speaker 4 (40:00):
We gunna say is tonight the hunter Brown? And it is.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
I'm trying to remember if it's him against Avaldi or
if it's him against the Grom. I haven't looked at
what the pitching rotation is for that. But I mean
I know that one of those nights you're gonna get them,
and that's one that I'm like, oh yeah, I'm I'm
gonna be.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
In front of the TV for that one. Hunter Brown
takes on Jake up the ground.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
All right, there we go tonight. So starting pitching good
for the Rangers. The bullpen a little bit of a
struggle for him. But anyway, we'll talk that much more
with Jared Sandler here in about thirty minutes. But is
it time to start thinking this about certain astros?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
What this is?
Speaker 6 (40:37):
What you know right here as we start seven o'clock
hour on the Sean Salisbury Show. Cole Thompson in for
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Speaker 6 (42:53):
A couple of runs there in the eighth to do
it and they win the series. Celtic's able to keep
the season alive against the Knicks. Game six is going
to be in New York, the but the Timberwolves bouncing
the Warriors in five games and the Texans going to
open up the season on the road against the Rams
September the seventh and four national TV games this year
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for the Texans. As I mentioned, Cole in with us
Jared Sandler from the Rangers Radio network. He's going to
join us here in about twenty five minutes or so.
As we'll get into the lone Star series with him.
But you know, Cole, it's about that time of the year.
And remember back when you were a kid. Yeah, they
Well I was going to say for you it is,
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but for me, for me not so much. But you
know it's another story. But they had the ballots there,
you know, at the top of the stairs where whatever
section you sat in, like the old astronome.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
I actually do remember that. I remember they had that.
My dad would always have a pin on him.
Speaker 6 (43:48):
So I'm like dag going to brow the pen and
you know, I punch out my holes for who I
wanted to be an All Star?
Speaker 4 (43:53):
And are you one of those people that so does
the box score when you're sitting down.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
Yeah, I do want to go to games. Yeah, like
when I sit in the press box for sure.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Especially Mad does it too. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
Last time we went on Saturday, he forgot a pen.
He was complaining NonStop. He was complaining the entire walkway
up through that he had a spending dollar fifty on
a pencil.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
Well, well, I mean, look, you know you got to
be able to show up ready for work, right, you're
not prepared.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
Back to the ballance, what we were talking about that said.
Speaker 6 (44:21):
So, I mean, you know, All Star voting is gonna
be coming up, and you know certain guys aren't, you know,
on the ballot for it. You know, it's picked by
the manager or whoever that is. But we could be
talking about an ASTROS team, and I think a lot
of it also continues on how do they play, how
did these guys perform?
Speaker 4 (44:37):
All of that.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
I thought about it this morning. Three all stars on
this team right now. Jeremy PanAm yep, that was one,
Hunter Brown, yep. Jake Myers, Josh Hater Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 7 (44:47):
Yeah, okay, I'm going to go too, because of the
problem is is that, you know, simply based off of votes,
Jeremy Pang is not going to get enough, at least
from the starting position. Josh Hayter's your closer, Hunter Brown's
your starting pitcher. And I don't think many people in
the American League would argue if those two made the
roster it's warranted. The problem is is that we live
in a society where fandom plays a bigger role than production.
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Bobby Wood Junior not only has production, but he has fandom.
You also the throw in Gunnar Henderson, who is struggling
right now, He's finally gotten back on pace. Yesterday he
had what was he three for nine four RBIs had
a home run in the series against Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
He still is an MVP candidate. He's gonna get in.
Speaker 7 (45:29):
Then you gotta throw in what do you have in
Boston with Trevor Story. Boston's got a bigger market. They're
gonna go ahead and vote him in. You gotta throw
in what you got with Anthony Volpi out in New York.
They're gonna throw him in. His Carl's career gonna be
more popular in the public eye than Jeremy Panya, So
numbers aside what you're hoping for. What Panya is, he
shows you enough where the manager who is going to
be Aaron Boone this year, he's going to make a
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decision that.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Will put him in the All Star Game. That's what
you're hoping for at this point.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
Yeah, And I mean, you know with some of those
other guys, I mean, I've talked about it, with the
way that a Hunter Brown has pitched and the guy
that he just faced a couple of days ago, Chris Bubach.
He's another guy, Trek Scubale. I mean, obviously he's up there. Although,
how about Alex Bregman last night? You know, able to
get after school ball a little bit and then you
got Scooble chirping him in the dugout and they're kind
of going back and forth.
Speaker 7 (46:16):
After school was a menace, dude. Did you see him
a couple of days ago when he went up against
a zach Netto. So he and zach Netto got into
it so much so that both bullpens left the stands
and went to the mill and schoobl actually apologized afterwards.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
He was so frustrated himself.
Speaker 7 (46:32):
I was like, guys, I'm just chirping, like, I'm just saying,
look at me, and how good I am as a pitcher.
After zach Netto nuked a solo shot in the first
ending off me, and now we get the bullpens about
ready to go brawl Like that was literally it.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
Scooble's a psycho.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
I love it, well, I mean, it's it is nice
to see personalities in the game. I mean, I do
appreciate that, and you know, you get things like that.
It's fun for the fans. And you know, baseball fights
are always the funny to me because there never truly fights.
Maybe somebody will throw half a shove in there, but
aside from that, it's just a bunch of standing around.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
You love when the bullpens come out.
Speaker 6 (47:09):
I mean it's it's more or less. I think it's
kind of a you know it. It energizes them. That's
where the show begins, where they're just kind of like,
you know, well, if they're all out there, then we
need to be out there too, because that is the
rules in baseball.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
The bench is clear, you're part of it.
Speaker 7 (47:23):
Yeah here, okay, But why does the arguments start at
the mound and not when both of you are running
out of the exact same time in the outfield. Like
that's where I always laugh at it, because they like
both are looking at each other. Hold up, not yet,
not yet, another one hundred feet before we can actually
get in each other's face.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
No, no, no, how's your day? Everything going good? What's
up with the wife? The kids? Okay, now we're at
home plate kind of brawl.
Speaker 7 (47:44):
Like that's the feel that I can't stand because it's
like never in a fight which you see that happen.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
The respect factor until you touch.
Speaker 6 (47:51):
The one wow, because then you also, you know, you
get the catcher involved, you get the coaches, then getting
out there and getting in between everybody, the umpires. I mean,
it finally reaches a point where where it's like, hey, look,
I don't want to get hurt. You don't want to
get hurt. Nobody needs to throw a punch.
Speaker 13 (48:04):
You know.
Speaker 6 (48:04):
It's kind of like bull Durham. Do you hit me
with your left or do you hit me with your right? Yeah,
you never hit a drunk with your pitching hand. What's
the matter with you? You know, that's it's it's kind of
one of those things. It's it's career preservation. But back
to the all start talk. I mean, at least two
is what I settled on. Of Hunter Brown and Josh Hater.
They can they continue on the path they're on Hunter
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Brown or you know, Hunter Brown, as good as he's been,
it's one of those where you wonder where that rough
outing is going to be. And maybe it's kind of
like what you know you did against Boobage up there
in Kansas City. If that's his rough outing of Hey,
he went five innings, he gave up four runs. It's
not great by his standards, but you're still like, okay, well,
I mean still have a chance to be able to
win this game.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
That's good enough.
Speaker 7 (48:46):
Do you still have a one to fifty ra If
he does, then he's the starting you're the starting pitcher.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (48:51):
I mean that that should be the end of conversation.
And I get it because you're going into this Ranger
series with three guys who currently have an ERA under
two point seven, but still single handedly pound for pound
when you're watching Hunter Brown pitch, is there anybody more
mes verizing than fifty nine on the mount fifty eight
on the mountain.
Speaker 6 (49:09):
That's just I mean, it's fun just because of the fastball,
and I mean how he's you know, he's not afraid
to go after anybody, and finally too once he figured out,
oh hey, the inside of the plate's mine. Okay, well
then I'll start taking the inside of the plate and
that's when things started to change.
Speaker 7 (49:23):
It should I mean, again, as much as you're watching
what Max Free is doing, as much as you're watching
what Tyler Mally's doing, as much you're watching the resurgence
somewhat of Jacob deGrom. You're at an O two count
and you hit the inside corner, game over, I mean
like that, like it's almost written like I hate when
people say, oh, write it impermenating, no tat to it
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on your face if you have to, oh, two count
two seam fastball, inside corner, game over.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
That's under Brown right now. It's fun to watch.
Speaker 6 (49:52):
And definitely the guy that I mean, I've said at
numerous times he's the ace of your staff right now,
despite what Frober's been able to give you in the
last couple of outings. And I mean, you know, for
the rest of the team too, of you know, trying
to figure out what do you have in Spencer Arraghetty,
what do you have in Renel Blanco? And you know,
I guess we'll wait and see what happens with Hayden
was nesky, Although didn't you point out that maybe a
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little bit of the cat was.
Speaker 7 (50:13):
Let out the battle of last night? Did somebody say
something they weren't supposed to say? If you were listening
to broadcast Todd Kallis, I think it was during the
second inning talking about Spencer Raghetty talking about eventually he'll
work his way back in the mound. But Hayden was
asky done for the year? Who's to say again? That
is kind of what I think many people expected at
this point. You hear shorter, you hear elbow, you hear
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any one of those things. It doesn't sound good. It
does feel like that. Now we're gonna get an answer
pretty soon on what's going on with Hay was asking, Yeah,
it's a bummer.
Speaker 6 (50:46):
Well, I mean that's that's another story too, when it
comes to the astros with injuries, like you know, I
saw Ross was there yesterday, posts some videos and you
know Joe Aspota, Oh, Jordon's close, Jordon is close.
Speaker 4 (50:57):
It's just like, but what does that mean?
Speaker 5 (50:58):
See?
Speaker 6 (50:59):
And that's exactly like they're intentionally vague about intries and provocative. Well, no,
it's not provoding. If it's annoying, is what it is.
I mean, where it's you know, oh, they've got this comfort.
Oh they're gonna be day to day, and then two
months later it's like, oh where are they?
Speaker 4 (51:13):
Do you remember who was it?
Speaker 7 (51:14):
Uh not Aaron Judge, Oh it's John Carlos saying right
now everyone's talking about how, oh he's getting close. Well
what is close? Is close two months away? Or is
close two hours away? It's like you know what, like
you're doing the directions close by and then thirty minutes later,
your buddy shows up. Oh, sitting in traffic, I can
track you. Nobody sits in traffic that long.
Speaker 6 (51:35):
Well, I mean they do if you have the situation
I had to stay where a train decided, Oh hey,
I'm just gonna stop right here in this intersection.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
Oh thanks, that's awesome. Six time.
Speaker 6 (51:45):
What was it the YI no up in Imperial Oaks, Yeah,
where we live, And yeah, I just decided right there
Hannah Road and Robinson Road. Just decided, yeah, hey, I'm
gonna stop right here, right in the middle of rush hour. Yeah, thanks, Bud,
appreciate that. And forty five minutes later only got home.
But you know that's my situation. Nobody else needs to
worry about that.
Speaker 5 (52:04):
All right?
Speaker 6 (52:04):
What are the hottest what are the hardest jobs in America?
And are we doing those jobs right now? Maybe you
have those jobs anyway, we'll discuss right here. It is
Sean Salisbury Show. This is the Sewn Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
And his name is sure Sean Really.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Were on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
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Speaker 1 (52:32):
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Speaker 6 (52:40):
It is sewn Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety Cole
Thompson in for Sean Astros come back to beat the
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the Knicks. The Timberwolves bounce the Warriors in five games.
But hardest jobs to do, toughest ones out there. I mean,
I'm sure that we probably have some, at least on
our minds right now where I mean you think about it.
First responder jobs, cops, firefighters. Yeah, that's that's up there.
Speaker 7 (53:18):
Roofing as a redhead in the summer months in the
Southeastern region.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
That's not a job. That's just more or less just
like what you have to deal with. You have to
be a roofer in the Southeastern region. So roofing. I
thought you said riffing.
Speaker 7 (53:30):
No, roofing as a redhead in the Southeastern region, gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 4 (53:33):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (53:34):
Got Like I go outside for five minutes, I automatically burn.
Like I have to wear SPS seventy at all times.
Imagine being able to do that job twenty four hours,
three sixty five, seven days a week, ninety nine degrees.
It means to be like one O two today. Right,
So the twenty.
Speaker 6 (53:51):
Hardest jobs in America to do, according to the Bosh
Power Tools and Talker research, which I mean, all right, fine,
take their word for it.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
Roofer was number twelve. Depends on where you are. Think
about it.
Speaker 7 (54:05):
If you're in the if you're in the northeastern region,
sixty five degrees, got nice little breeze coming on in
for the harbor, feels pretty nice.
Speaker 4 (54:12):
I'm good.
Speaker 7 (54:13):
I'm not gonna be complaining. You do it down in Dallas, Texas,
or in Austin or in Houston. Was gonna say here,
you're dead. I mean, like, it probably takes you three
times long to do the job because you have to
stop and breathecause you don't want to have a heat stroke.
Speaker 6 (54:25):
Well it's not only that, I mean it's also I
mean for houses, like if you're working on like a
two three story house, you know, slanted roof, Yeah, I
mean it's one of those. You get the heat involved,
all of that kind of stuff. Maybe you kind of
forget where you are and you have one false step
and it came over. I was gonna say, well yeah
at that point, I mean, that's That's the one thing too,
is like we had our roof done last year and
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we got a two story house, and you know, that
was one of the things that I was thinking of
with those guys up there. It's I was like, dude, like,
are they like I even asked their guy. I was like,
I was like, are they tied down or anything? And
he was like, no, no, He's like, they're good, they'll they'll.
Speaker 4 (54:57):
Be all right.
Speaker 6 (54:58):
You know, they've they've got like whatever at the bottom
of their shoe, like to you know, keep.
Speaker 4 (55:01):
Them in place.
Speaker 6 (55:02):
And I was just like, man, I don't know if
I would trust that. But number one on the list
was firefighter.
Speaker 7 (55:07):
Okay, I mean that's fair to be fair as much
as Coop I think deserves as much as respect. You're
walking into a place to where you could be burned alive,
that easily is number one.
Speaker 6 (55:20):
Well it's not only that, it's also too I mean,
you know we see it all the time that an
accident on the freeway, you know they're gonna block off
the freeway, do all that kind of stuff, maybe the
cars on fire, whatever, it might be, so there's many
different things. I get that. It's number two for me.
While I don't doubt how hard the work is.
Speaker 7 (55:40):
Construction worker, I'd probably moved down to ten eleven.
Speaker 6 (55:45):
I was gonna say, I mean, if you're gonna have
roofer right there, an electrician and homebuilder, A thirteen and fourteen.
Speaker 4 (55:50):
It's all in the same category. Why not just have it?
Speaker 7 (55:53):
Hey, you progress up. It's like Pokemon, you evolved the
next line.
Speaker 6 (55:56):
Here's one that I think is underrated because people don't
necessarily think about it because you're not the one building
it or any of these things.
Speaker 4 (56:03):
Engineer, like, you get.
Speaker 6 (56:05):
One small detail wrong on that, and I think architect
probably needs to be on there too, because you get
one small detail wrong structurally and things falls apart.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
Architecture.
Speaker 7 (56:14):
I agree with you, it probably should be higher. Engineer
depends on you have to name what it is. Are
you a space engineer, you a civil engineer, you're a
chemical engineer? Yeah, because every single level is different. It's
like every single type of Pokemon out there. I've already
mentioned it twice now, so I don't know why Pokemon's
on my mind today, but still, every single level is
completely different when it comes to how you go about it.
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A space engineer is completely unique compared to what you
go to do as a chemical engineer. You maybe are
not going to get the right formula, but you also
have to realize it's not a life or death situation
where a space engineer who's working on the trajectory of
the spin rate, you spin one spot out of line,
You're flying throughout space to the next millennium.
Speaker 6 (56:53):
It's like, you know, at the old Kyle Field, well,
I mean it's still Kyle Field, but like the old
press box that they had there, they used to have
a sign that said the press box will shake when
they start doing the AGGI war HM does well. And
you know, you start to feel that because I mean,
you got one hundred thousand people staying back and forth
all of that. But then I remembered thinking to myself,
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I was like, oh, we're good. I'm at a school
of engineers, like they like they they know what they do. Yeah,
I was gonna say, they they've got this lick, They're
they're good to go with this.
Speaker 4 (57:21):
It's fine. Number three is military.
Speaker 7 (57:25):
Psychologically, I can say you can probably say I almost
feel like it needs to be higher for everything that
you got to deal with. Because if it's the post reaction,
like when you get out of the military, I think
that that's the side effect that you don't throw in
that probably deserves a little bit more respect to where
you put at number two.
Speaker 6 (57:39):
Number one, I go say, I mean you literally are
knowing that you're joining with the chance that hm, I
probably won't come out the same way.
Speaker 7 (57:47):
I think ninety nine point nine percent of the time,
unless you're working in the cafeteria, you're not coming out
the same way. Plus you don't know what you're serving
back there. That also is probably going to change the
way you look at.
Speaker 6 (57:56):
Things, especially two current times. Police officer needs to be higher.
Speaker 4 (57:59):
So what's number four? Doctor?
Speaker 7 (58:03):
Okay again, are we talking ear nose and throw a?
We talking brain surgeon? Like, can we get categories with these?
Because of much like when you say with an engineer,
you make one small incision in the wrong spot, I
forget what the color blue is and ear knows the
throat here, take this mess and call me tomorrow morning.
Speaker 4 (58:21):
Take two pills. We're fine. It's a little different, YEA.
Speaker 6 (58:24):
I went to an E and T once and they
they they seriously sent me out like with a bag
that basically looked like you know, I was almost a
dealer at that point, like where I was just like,
I have to take all of this.
Speaker 7 (58:34):
Take this from when you're sleeping. Take this from I'll
just take this from when you feel like that you're
gonna throw up. Take this from when you feel like
that you're gonna pass out.
Speaker 6 (58:40):
Yeah, it's knowing, you know, this is when I was
much younger, but like knowing what I know now, Like
you know, if they're like trying to, like, you know,
prescribe me all these things, I'd be like, Okay, what
do I really need?
Speaker 7 (58:51):
Just tell me which pill I actually am going to
need to.
Speaker 6 (58:55):
Just give me the z PAC. That's that's pretty much
all I need. Just give me something that's gonna knock
this thing out, like A or two. That's that's all
I need. No tell me which exact belt.
Speaker 7 (59:03):
Oh, by the way, make sure that I have these
timers set up to where I have to take it
at this time. Don't take it at seven thirty, because
if you take it at seven thirty, it's going to
construct what you have to take at nine thirty. Like
that's always the one that drives me nuts when it
comes to pills. I can't mix them together.
Speaker 6 (59:16):
I'm just glad it off do do all those things
all the time.
Speaker 4 (59:19):
I've been lucky enough.
Speaker 6 (59:19):
EMT is on here, astronauts on here, farmer air traffic
controller again?
Speaker 4 (59:24):
Uh, oil work? Where's A and T E? And T
is six paramedic?
Speaker 7 (59:30):
Okay, they deserve way more respect than we give them
because they see some really mess up stuff. Like honestly,
from a mental capacity, it's right there. A military for me,
because there are things that you are never going to
be able to unsee after you work in EMT for.
Speaker 6 (59:45):
Sure, and mentioned air traffic controller, oil worker.
Speaker 4 (59:48):
I mean, you know, we just watched land Man. You
see what can happen out on the patch.
Speaker 7 (59:51):
First episode, What a way to start. Not having the
right hammer, not having the right screwdriver. Boom done. Yeah,
did you shut off the valve?
Speaker 5 (59:59):
Son?
Speaker 4 (59:59):
You shut off off the mount By the way, that
might be his most underappreciated role of all. He was amazing.
Speaker 7 (01:00:04):
He was so I hated the writing of that. I
stayed around because it's just billybouth Thornte's character.
Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
I love the first episode where meeting with the guy
that's the landowner. I find that offensive to who that
or the prisoners.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
See.
Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
What you don't understand is we're not in business together.
We least your leasing rights.
Speaker 7 (01:00:25):
It's like, take the character from Bad Standa and put
him out in the oil field.
Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
That's pretty much what he had. What it was. It's
fantastic that.
Speaker 7 (01:00:31):
Or a butter maker from Bad Newspairers, like put them together.
Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
And that is.
Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
Billy about Thornton, a buddy of mine brought up a
great point a few years ago about him, is he
plays a really good loser.
Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
Oh, he plays the biggest sad sack of all time,
and I can't get.
Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Enough of it. It's fun.
Speaker 7 (01:00:48):
Throw a cigarette, throw a six pack of beer, and
Billy about Thornton on television screen.
Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
It's gonna win Oscars, it's gonna win Awards.
Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
I was gonna say that was That was pretty much
him to a tee right there on land Man. But
sadly enough, you're on all of the hardest jobs in
America to do.
Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
Now, journalists and media was not on there. Really, Wow,
we're didn't make the cut. We're didn't make the cut.
Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
I'm not upset about it, cause there's nothing there. Honestly,
and me and Sean talked about this a couple of
days ago. There's nothing that annoys me more than people
in this industry who try to talk about how hard
this job is, which yes, it's a job like any other,
but like, oh, we're doing great work. And I remember
once somebody actually said putting lives.
Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
On the line. I lost my mind when they said that.
Speaker 7 (01:01:30):
And can you name them off air to me when
we get done with this, because we talk about sports.
Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
For a living.
Speaker 7 (01:01:36):
We're it's seven twenty eight in the morning, and we're
ranking jobs on how challenging they're.
Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
Youngster somebody like that, that's like on the front lines
there in Afghanistan or somewhere like that. Then yeah, I'm
willing to listen to that from you. But if you're
somebody that puts out an article and then says, oh,
I'm getting all of these things thrown at me, no,
people just don't like you.
Speaker 7 (01:01:54):
There's a major difference in that. I work on both
sides this. I work in the sports talk rum. I
work in the realm. I get called the most egregious
things of all time. Guess what, I sleep well at
night knowing that I pissed somebody off.
Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
Well, it's not only that, it's also too is. I
told Tripoli yesterday in our meeting, I said, you know,
just limit your mentions to people who follow you and
what I say to people too. Like I pissed off
Texas fans one time and I said, hey, Texas fans,
if you want me to see that you hate me,
then follow me.
Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Seriously.
Speaker 7 (01:02:22):
No, honestly, I have gained more Stars fans in the
last two months than I have any other following just
because of how much I crap talk Dallas Interesting. Well, okay,
I am still like there are few teams in sport.
I can't stomach the Rangers. I can't stomach the Cubs.
I don't like the Cowboys. I hate, beyond hate the
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Dallas Stars. I'm a huge hockey dude. I am begging
for the day that Tillman or somebody will give us
a team out here. I want nothing more than to
watch the Stars lose every single game. I will sleep
well at night knowing that Dallas is in a Game
seven situation in overtime, losing for a shot at the
Stanley Cup.
Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
How will be my Super Bowl this year?
Speaker 6 (01:03:02):
Hockey Talk right here Sean Salisbury Show icle Thompson.
Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
We just fulfilled it there.
Speaker 6 (01:03:07):
For the final end of that segment, Ginger says, dental assistant.
Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
Needs to be on there.
Speaker 6 (01:03:12):
Yeah, probably, So just don't give me a hard time
about you know which, I mean, I haven't been since
I've started us nicotine pouches, but it was the old stuff.
Speaker 7 (01:03:22):
Dental assistant or orthodontics, because that alone is I think
that's the difference.
Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:03:26):
I actually might have to go back to the orthodonts
for that's another story. None of you care, all right.
Jared Sandler, Rangers Radio. He's up next right here as
we get into the Lone Star series with him Sean
Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety for the Seawan Salisbury
Show continued. Jared Sandler, who is part of the Rangers
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Radio network, joins us to preview this series. Jared, appreciate
the time things have been going a little bit better
for the Rangers in terms of, you know, the production
at the plate. How much of a difference has Brett
Boone made since he's taken over that job.
Speaker 13 (01:04:05):
I think playing the Rockies probably helps, right, They're awful.
Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
I mean I think he's helped a little bit.
Speaker 13 (01:04:13):
Uh, you know, I think that just in general, it's
tough to know what a hitting coach, what impact the
hitting coaches having versus you know what some of these
guys private swing coaches are providing versus you know what
the two guys who remained on staff, Justin Veeley and
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Steth Connor have done.
Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
But I think with Brett.
Speaker 13 (01:04:35):
Boone, I don't know how much he's getting in there
and taking, you know, a hard look at the mechanics.
I think a lot of it's, you know, between the ears,
the mental side of things, similar to what Edgar Martinez
brought to the Mariners when they brought him on in
the middle of last season, just trying to reset the
you know, the approach.
Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
And I think a big thing that Brett Boone can
can bring is just simplifying things.
Speaker 13 (01:04:54):
You know, this is a very data heavy organization, uh
and I think the data plays a really big role.
It's it's helpful, but not every player needs to feel
like they're taking a calculus test. And I think that,
you know, just simplifying things, synthesizing the message to players,
tailoring it to each players, you know, individually.
Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
I think he'll help in that regard for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:05:16):
Pitching wise, is it pretty much gone as you would expect.
Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
With the starting rotation?
Speaker 13 (01:05:21):
Oh gosh, I mean I expected this rotation to be
really good, but you know, they've been.
Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Statistically just I guess, you know, e r A. They've
been one of the best rotations in Major.
Speaker 13 (01:05:31):
League Baseball, you know, top three, top five pretty much
from the word goes. So, you know, didn't expect Patrick
Corbyn to be as good as he's been, especially coming
off you know, a few really rough years. Wasn't sure
what you know we're gonna get from Tyler Mallley. Figured
he'd be good, but maybe not sub to e er
A good And obviously that's that's gonna even out at
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some point.
Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
But you know, with with a Baldi, you expect that.
Speaker 13 (01:05:58):
You know, he's gonna post every five days and give
you more than just a chance to win. Jack Lyder's
been good and he'll pitch the final game of this syearies.
Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
On Sunday, but then tonight, you know, I think Jacob.
Speaker 13 (01:06:08):
De Grom's was the X factor. You know, I think
there's a lot of confidence. Who's going to be healthy.
I think the question was, you know what version of
Jacob de Grom.
Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
Were we going to get it? We're going to get
a guy whose arrow is pointing down?
Speaker 13 (01:06:21):
Are we going to get a guy who's rejuvenated, you know,
coming off of you know, basically a year and a
half off with a fresh ucl and he's not. I
don't know that he is like the most dominant version
of Jacob de Grom that we've seen, but you know
that's coming from such a high mountaintop that even half
a step down is still.
Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
One of the ten best pitchers in baseball. So this
should be a lot of fun.
Speaker 13 (01:06:45):
I mean, you got a guy on the rise in
Hunter Brown, and then you got a guy in Jacob
de Grom who's I don't want to say he's on
the descent by any means, but you know, he's obviously
in the back nine of his career and has been
the top.
Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
Of the game for, you know, for years.
Speaker 7 (01:06:58):
Jared cole Thompson with you back to Jacob mcgram, you
talk about his mechanics and his change and how he's
back to being kind of fully healthy. He's giving you
five innings the last two times out. Is that what
you can kind of expect at this point whenever he
takes the mound. You're not gonna get a full game,
but you are going to be able to get him
in line to get the win, probably give up at
least one run, but he keeps pitches down low, gets
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a couple of strikeouts, puts him in an advantage to
where as long as the bullpen doesn't find a way
to mess it up, they're guaranteed to win.
Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Yeah, I think so. I wish I could say they're
guaranteed to win.
Speaker 13 (01:07:33):
Unfortunately, with the way that the bats have been going,
you know, with these pitchers, they have been given up.
Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
You know, I think the Rangers' rotations given up.
Speaker 13 (01:07:41):
You know, prior to last night had given up two
or fewer runs and like fourteen out of sixteen or
something like that. But Jacob mcgram for whatever reason, I
guess it's all the years in New York in which
he got no run support. Is like the one guy
who's gotten run support.
Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
But I think that's that's bring that up.
Speaker 13 (01:07:56):
Is in part why maybe he isn't going seven innings
even sometimes six. I think, you know, their their goal
is to have him, you know, contributing to wins in
April and May and June, but also in August September
and you know, hopefully October. And you know, the reality
is he's, you know, barely thrown innings in the last
two years. They don't have to keep him on as
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tight of a leash as say a Jack Lyer, a
Kamar Rocker.
Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Excuse me, who's a younger pitcher.
Speaker 13 (01:08:23):
But I also don't think they feel like, you know,
they need to run him out there for one hundred
and eighty innings in the regular season.
Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
So like the other day, he I think two.
Speaker 13 (01:08:31):
Starts ago, he was at six innings, sixty five pitches,
but the Rangers were up big and they pulled him.
Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Not because he couldn't keep going. He's you know, he's
gotten to ninety pitches.
Speaker 13 (01:08:40):
I wouldn't expect him to have any hundred pitch efforts
here in the first half of the season. But I
think they just are looking for any opportunity to conserve innings. Now,
I'll say this, guys, and we asked this question when
the Rangers played Seattle, and I think it's obviously relevant
tonight against Houston.
Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Is there a little more incentive to push him for
that extra inning? And I think the answers yes, I.
Speaker 13 (01:09:00):
Think you know, you you don't push the foot on
the pedal hard against your you know, non divisional opponents
when you've got a big lead, so that you know,
maybe if it's a five run game in the sixth
inning and he's at seventy five pitches, you feel good
about him going out for the seventh just because he's
Jacob de Grom, and you know you're okay with that option.
So and the other thing specific to tonight, the Rangers
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might be down two relievers. They've lost their closer and
their their primary setup guy in two of the last
three nights, and we're not really sure the status of
their health, you know, in advance of tonight's game. But
I think with de gram yeah, I think you know,
they'd like to get six innings out of him most nights,
but I think there's an opportunity to pull him early.
Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
I think they will.
Speaker 13 (01:09:41):
He's also not putting guys away with the same level
of dominance. Still way better than league average, but not
the same level of dominance. So we've seen his pitch
count go up a little bit as well because of that.
Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
Again, he's here at Sandler TV Radio with the Rangers
up there in Arlington. You can find him on Twitter
at Jared Sandler, and you mentioned a little bit the bullpen.
I mean, is that something that has kind of started
to calm down in a good way for them as
of late, or is that still you know, a part
of this team that once you start to turn to them,
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you're kind of like, geez, I hope.
Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
That was kind of the feeling last year.
Speaker 13 (01:10:18):
And honestly in twenty twenty three, the bullpen, outside of
like two guys, wasn't that great for most of the
regular season, and then the team just got hot in
the playoffs and they scored so many runs that they
weren't playing in a lot of close games. Now this
year it's kind of been the opposite because they're not
scoring a lot of runs, they're playing a ton of
close games, and the bullpens acquitted themselves really nicely, probably
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you know, similar to the Astros and that there's some
surprise guys. I mean, I know, Taylor Scott was supposed
to be a part of the solution, and you know
he was dfad I didn't pan out, But like you know,
the Astros bullpen's been good, maybe better than expected early
performances from some individuals, and I think with the Rangers bullpen.
They're not sexy. It's not a bullpen that is going
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to scare you. You're not going to ever have the conversation, gosh,
you know, we got to be ahead after six because
don't get to seven, eight, nine. But the production has
been there, and I think they've also you know, they
built a bullpen with more depth and so you know,
the middle innings the last two years have just been
hilatious for the Rangers. If they had to go to
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the pen before the sixth inning, they were gonna have
a tough time winning unless they had already built a
big lead.
Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
That's not so much the case.
Speaker 13 (01:11:29):
And they've also got guys who just they seem to fit,
you know, someone like Kobe Milliner, who you can use situationally,
you know, as opposed to just eight arms.
Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
Right.
Speaker 13 (01:11:39):
So it's not a dominant group by any means. But
they've done a really nice job. And when you factor
in that they've had to protect a lot of really
close leads or tight ballgames, you know, I give them
a little extra juice for that, But I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
They're a bulletproof by any means.
Speaker 13 (01:11:56):
But yeah, you're right, I mean in the last couple
of years, it's it's been a feeding season for opposing
teams against the Rangers bolten and that hasn't been the
case yet.
Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
You talked about it earlier in the show.
Speaker 7 (01:12:05):
When playing the Rockies, it gives you an opportunity to
kind of get back on pace. But Josh Young has
been phenomenal this year three h two batting averages last
fifteen games for four home runs ten RBIs what have
you noticed about his played approach and him in that
six hole when runners aren't scoring position, how is he
able to drive the ball putting in play? He's he
going to be a bad X factor for this matchup
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against the Astros.
Speaker 13 (01:12:28):
Yeah, I mean, you know, they need they need everyone
to kind of step up a little bit with you know,
Corey Seeger out and you know, obviously the Astros have
a guy and I know that he wasn't hitting the
ball well before he got hurt. And jord On Alvarez,
who you know, my understanding is to likely be back
this weekend. But like Hory Seeger and jord On Alvarez,
are you know, in a unique class of hitter who
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just you know, one player can only impact the game
so much, you know, with the way the sport works,
but they they find ways to exceed that, you know,
the level of impacted even a great player just with
you know, the way they produce of the plate. And
so without those guys, you need everyone to kind of
step up a little bit. And Josh Young's you know,
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kind of taking the range here of late. I think
what you know now, Josh Young's really aggressive, and hitters
who are really aggressive have a tendency to be streaky,
They are.
Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
Susceptible at times. He has toned that down a little bit.
Speaker 13 (01:13:22):
We've seen a little more patience, and that's a problem
for this team.
Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
You know.
Speaker 13 (01:13:26):
I think for the first five six weeks, if the
season ended at whatever point, they would have had the
highest swing rate in Major League history.
Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
You know, like they were just swinging at everything. They
have toned that.
Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Down a bit.
Speaker 13 (01:13:37):
They have been a little uh, you know, a little
more patient, and I think Josh Young is kind of
in line with that. The thing that Josh does such
a good job of is he will hit to the situation.
You know, we have so many guys these days they
go up there with one swing, one mindset. And I'm
not talking about the need to lay down a buns.
I'm not I'm not big let's give out, give up
outs for a bunt guy or anything. But the ability
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to hit backside, you know, to go the other way,
to use the whole field and be willing to play,
like I said, in the situation a runner at third
and one out. You know, Josh Young's going up there
with the mindset, you know, he's talk about runners in
scoring position. He's going up with the mindset of you know,
what's the situation dictate, what is the situation.
Speaker 4 (01:14:18):
Asking of me?
Speaker 13 (01:14:19):
And I just don't know that there as many hitters
these days who have that mindset, or maybe it's just
that they don't have the ability with the back control
to operate like that is you know when I was
growing up, for instance, and you know even as recently
as probably fifteen twenty years ago, it's just a different game,
a different approach offensively.
Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
But Josh kind of has an old school approach in
that regard.
Speaker 6 (01:14:38):
He's Jared Sandler again, part of the Rangers radio network,
also does some TV covering the team up there in
North Texas. You can find him on Twitter at Jared Sandler.
And you're an sc guy too, So Jared, I guess
next time these two teams meet up with Shawn's here
got to get you on cuz, I mean, you know,
of course Sean being a trojan himself, so I know
he'll appreciate that.
Speaker 13 (01:15:00):
Yeah, I'm surrounded by like too many Stanford people with
the Rangers. Two of our broadcasts partners are Stanford guys
or ones that are Stanford gal Stanford guy.
Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
Uh And so with Brett Boone joining the Rangers, we
got a little more Steed blood. So yeah, I'd love
to chat with Sean.
Speaker 13 (01:15:16):
Our football program is in absolute mess, but hopefully we
can cheat a little bit better and get things turned around.
Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
Yeah, here's here's hoping, right, Jared. I appreciate it. Tom
Buddy enjoyed the series, and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
See fellas.
Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Let the celebration start or Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
Yeah, I think that Chargers one definitely could Chargers one.
Speaker 7 (01:15:41):
I think makes sense because both those teams are going
to be in that ten seven to eleven at six
uch that much. That's one of those games to where
I don't think it will be a playoff decider, but
I think it will be a playoff.
Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
Clincher for one of them.
Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
Fair enough.
Speaker 7 (01:15:53):
That's where like like the Texans won't be eliminated if
they lose this game, or the Charges won't be eliminated
if they were to lose that game. Colts one is
the interesting one because remember that was the Saturday night
game in twenty twenty three, and now that's going to
be home this year. I I don't know, I think that.
Do you even still think that right now? There's a
team that's competitive with it with Houston in the division.
Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
In the division? Yeah, no, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (01:16:16):
That's the problem. So like the Los Angeles game is
the one that would make the most sense.
Speaker 6 (01:16:20):
My yeah, no, the Colts will definitely be I mean,
if you're in the Saturday afternoon portion right there, maybe
that's what one of those games are because I mean
most of the country is not going to care for
that one. But we'll get in some Texans here in
a little bit. Since jose Al Tube has moved to
the second spot to twenty two with a six forty
ops and the average has come down a little bit
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as the season has gone along.
Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
I mean he did start off pretty well. They're in
the leadoff spot.
Speaker 6 (01:16:45):
But I think we can agree right now that leadoff
spot is worn by a guy that wears number thirty three,
so or number three.
Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
Excuse me, I.
Speaker 6 (01:16:53):
Say number thirty three at this point. Yeah, it's it's
it's not the opposite of King Grif Junior.
Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
But tired.
Speaker 6 (01:16:58):
No, no, I don't, I don't even oh, the last
guy of the war, number three. It doesn't matter. But anyway,
you got Jeremy Painey right there in the laid off spot.
But I mean we kind of get to the point here.
I mean, I know we talked about Christian Walker, but
it pains me to even say this. Do we even
think about moving jose Al too Ve out the two spot?
Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
Yes, that's not shocking.
Speaker 7 (01:17:18):
Like I was sitting here trying to think of what
were the things that were on your mind that we
were going to come back with. That was not one
of them, because I thought that was kind of common
knowledge at this point. He's hurting the team right now
and it sounds negative because of what he has meant
to the city.
Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
I want wins. I want consistent wins.
Speaker 7 (01:17:36):
I want to walk out of Arlington on a five
game winning streak with the clean suite. Is JOSEL two
V at the two spot going to help you get that?
That's a big question that you have right now. I
don't think so. I think absolutely if you were to
consider when looking at where everyone is sitting, Estoc parades
in the three hole, can you move them up to
the two hole? What about Yanni Diez two fifty five
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batting averages last seven games he move up to the
three hole? Would you be okay with moving Jake Myers
you into the two hole, leave Estockett in the three hole,
put Yanner at the four hole, and then maybe Christian
Walker five and then Hoseel two B six.
Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
I don't think it's a bad recipe right now.
Speaker 6 (01:18:12):
Here's the thing though with L two A is it
seems like whenever he goes through these stretches then where
you're just like, ah, man, you know, these at bats
just look terrible. That's when he didn finally you know,
comes through with a massive home run or whatever it
is that you're just like, all right, that's that's on
me for doubting you.
Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
I'm sorry. I'll wear that one. Jose. It's me. It's
not you, it's me, right. The big question is.
Speaker 7 (01:18:38):
Okay, so you can move him back to the you
can move him back to the two hole once he
starts getting hot. If you were to bat, say in
the six spot and go three fifteen, and then he
goes back to the two hole for one game and
he goes three for four.
Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Okay, problem solved.
Speaker 7 (01:18:51):
My main question right now is what needs to be
done to get hose Al tuo b back to swinging
like hose Al tuo Ba. I think I'm move down
on the lineup, giving him few were at bats and
allowing him to focus more so on concentration on back
control and where he is swinging. We'll do wonders for
him to land in the better spot to when you
need him come June, July, August, he ends up doing
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well back in the number two home. I don't think
it's that far fetch. We were talking about this on
the A team yesterday. I think that a move down
actually would beneficial for Hozel to be at this point.
Speaker 6 (01:19:22):
I mean, it's it's one of those that you know,
Joe Spotta even talked about before the season with Sean
and than Bryan of he doesn't want to move the
lineup around as much this year.
Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
As he had to last year.
Speaker 6 (01:19:33):
I mean last year was by necessity, it was injuries
and you know, trying to be able to find the
right combination just to get this lineup going. But I
mean it's also I don't even think that moving guys
necessarily means that it's a sign of.
Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
We're giving up.
Speaker 6 (01:19:45):
I'd say we're giving these guys an opportunity to succeed,
or at least the chance to be able to succeed.
Speaker 7 (01:19:52):
I'd much rather give a guy seventeen at bats, eighteen
at bats down on the lineup and fewer at bats
to allow them to build back up their confidence, then
keep them in a spot where they're struggling. Because nobody
walks away winner. Fans walk away losers. We as a
team walk away losers. You and your confidence walks away
a loser in this situation. That's why Christian Walker and
hose Al tuve. Until you start actually picking up the
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slack put you in the five and six hole, maybe
we'll call it even.
Speaker 6 (01:20:15):
Yeah, I mean it's something to consider, no doubt about it.
As the Astros head up to Arlington to take on
the Rangers, it's going to be a six o'clock Astros
on deck coming your way here on your Home of
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Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
That'll be a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (01:20:36):
Looking forward to being able to see that one up
there and also of course listen to it right here
on Sports Talk at seven ninety. The NFL at least
some interesting things happening out there that one pertains to
the Texans, but a couple of others elsewhere that might
be a lesson to be learned for the Texans.
Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
We'll talk about that here start.
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for now. And do you want to get into some
NFL here in just a second.
Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
But first you.
Speaker 6 (01:22:41):
Know, if it's Sean Salisbury show, we can count on
this guy. Morning Brandon, how you doing man?
Speaker 12 (01:22:47):
Good morning?
Speaker 5 (01:22:47):
How are you good?
Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Bud?
Speaker 5 (01:22:50):
Hey?
Speaker 12 (01:22:51):
I watched the Astros game.
Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
That was pretty exciting, hut, at least at the end. Hey,
I watched the.
Speaker 12 (01:22:59):
How about the new guy Cole?
Speaker 5 (01:23:01):
You like?
Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
You like Cole? Is that about me? Brandon?
Speaker 6 (01:23:07):
Oh, you're talking about Colton Gordon? I'm sorry? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
not you, buddy, Colton Gordon. Sorry, I'm good.
Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
How are you, Brandon? I'm doing okay. So you liked
watching Cold and Gordon pitch last night?
Speaker 7 (01:23:24):
Yeah, howny pitches he had.
Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
I'm not sure how many people.
Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Honey pitches he had.
Speaker 6 (01:23:33):
I'm not sure how many pitches he had. I don't
have the box score in front of me, but he.
Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
Four third?
Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
Yeah you said, yeah, you said it? There you go. Well,
how you feel about him against the Rangers?
Speaker 14 (01:23:48):
Hey, we need to win the series and we can.
Speaker 7 (01:23:52):
Who's gonna win the serial? Who's gonna Who's gonna be
the breakout player in the series?
Speaker 5 (01:24:00):
Jeremy Pay?
Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
There you go, keep a good thing going, that's for sure.
And Jeremy Pay going to too spot or number one spot?
Speaker 6 (01:24:12):
Number one buddy, Yeah, he's he's gonna be there. He's
not moving off that spot.
Speaker 9 (01:24:17):
Maybe we can move him to maybe next time, maybe
we can move him to where Ardon is?
Speaker 6 (01:24:26):
Nah, No, I like him where he's at, buddy. But
you know, got a good thing going, keep a good
thing going, you know. That's that's that's the way I
look at things. But uh, Brandon, you always know where
to find us.
Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
Man. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Okay, Hey, any updates from Jardon?
Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
No, nothing just yet.
Speaker 6 (01:24:46):
You know, Joe spot is saying yesterday that he's close,
and I mean we talked about that a little bit
earlier that you know, it seems like there's buzzwords with
the Astros when it comes to injuries. So you know, oh,
he's very close. He's very close. It's like, okay, was
around the corner? Is that in the line up tomorrow?
Is that in the lineup on Monday against the Rays?
Speaker 7 (01:25:03):
Like?
Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
What are we looking at here?
Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
You know, City of Houston.
Speaker 7 (01:25:06):
You can't let any information out, That's what it seems like. Hey,
Tank Dell, you're getting close and he's on track. That's
on track, on track for what.
Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
He'll be ready when he's ready.
Speaker 6 (01:25:16):
Yeah, Tank Dell's not playing this, but anyway, hopefully the
Astros get youred on back in the lineup. I mean,
I know he's been hitting in the cages doing all
that kind of to see. That's the other thing is
too Oh, they're hitting in the cages. They're hitting in
the cages. Okay, I understand, like conceptually what that means,
but I don't really understand what that means, Like why
isn't he hitting out here?
Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
Hey, Dann, I went to the batting cages on Saturday.
I've been hitting in the cages too. There you go.
Speaker 7 (01:25:40):
I'm ready to play tomorrow night. Joe just can't can't wait.
Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
Not tonight though. I'm a little bit busy. There you go,
There you go.
Speaker 6 (01:25:47):
All right, let's get into a little bit of the NFL,
at least on the local side here fast.
Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
I have a bone to pick with people. Pick the bone.
Speaker 7 (01:25:55):
So schedules last night number one, if pick cam Ward
test Titans sure will not be on primetime. So of
course people are losing their minds out in Nashville. Somebody
tweeted out, serious question, is cam Ward the first ever
quarterback draft and number one overall to not get a
primetime game in his rookie season? And of course, the
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Internet being the Internet, came up with a solution. Can
you tell me who is the last rookie quarterback to
not get a primetime game in his first season, Daniel Jones,
Joe Burrow, and now the comparisons have started, Dan Matthews.
We are getting a future Joe Burrow and test stop stop.
(01:26:42):
I'm sorry, do I like to beat the barrier? Bad
news to the rest of society. Cam Ward would not
go number one at any other draft. Cam Ward did
not belong at number one in this year's draft. Cam
Ward is not in the same conversation as about the
last ten quarterbacks who went number one overall. Well, cam Ward,
I hate to tell you this. Dan Matthews is not
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going to be a name that we're talking about in
five years.
Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
And I get it. He's from the Greater Houston area.
He grew up in Columbia.
Speaker 7 (01:27:10):
It's great that he was able to transcend his career
from Washington State to Miami to eventually become a number
one overall pick a zero star coming out of high school.
There's a reason why he is going to still be
a zero star quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
I'm sorry, I am.
Speaker 7 (01:27:27):
It's driven me nuts when it comes to people trying
to find reason, Like the whole you want to know
how you know that a quarterback is not that special.
And as much as we want to talk about mel
kiper Junior losing his mind on why should ta ta
ta tu, Yeah, the reason why we went to dur
was because of cam Ward wasn't worthy of talking about
(01:27:49):
past the first overall pick. And people don't want to
admit that part, and that's the infuriating part of the
entire conversation.
Speaker 6 (01:27:56):
Well, it's funny too that you mentioned cam Ward and
mel kiper Junior in the same breath, because somebody caught
up with Mario Cristobal. I think he was on with
ESPN or somebody about cam Ward and talking about all
the people he talked with, said pretty much talked with
everybody in the NFL except for mel kiper Junior. I
wonder why mel Mel had a bad draft, Like it's
almost kind of to the point, like with the way
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he was about all the Shador Sanders stuff, that you're
not like mel Maybe maybe it's time for you to
become the emeritus of this and not the guy.
Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
I just think at this.
Speaker 7 (01:28:28):
Point it's more so the conversation of dude, do you
really want to take your opinion seriously?
Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
Well, I mean and that's the thing.
Speaker 5 (01:28:34):
I mean.
Speaker 6 (01:28:34):
It got to the point where Rhys Davis was like, dude,
stop talking about it, like he's been drafted. It's done,
Like we're finished with this, Like stop, like you're making
yourself look stupid.
Speaker 7 (01:28:45):
He was all, okay, he was looking stupid on day
one when you talked to every other, like when then
the Giants were up and they're saying, oh, this is
where he should go. He was never in that comp
like when you talk to people around the league, you
talk to anybody with a functioning brain. He was not
going Round one. And the narrative that was started it
was back in twenty twenty two. Remember when we heard
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about Malik Willis and Desmond Ritter kind of sneaking their
way into the back end of round one because of
teams the quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (01:29:12):
The league told you who he was.
Speaker 7 (01:29:15):
The league made it clear what they thought of Shudur
Sanders when the Pittsburgh Steelers, who currently are employing Mason
Rudolph as the week one starter, went with the defensive
lineman and then didn't take a quarterback until the fifth
round and they took the guy that came from Ohio
State who transferred in because if he lost the starting
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job to a freshman at Kansas State. And that's what
the league told you about Schudur Sanders.
Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
I mean it was pretty evident too.
Speaker 6 (01:29:46):
It's you know, it goes back to something that I
remember Greg Cook told me a couple of you know,
a few years ago. You know, this guy was drafted
in the fifth round. And oddly enough, Schadoor Sanders drafted
in the fifth round and people talking about, Oh, he's
gonna be a fined he's gonna be all this, and
his line was no, he was drafted in the fifth
round for a reason.
Speaker 7 (01:30:03):
The only okay, Dak Prescott came into a situation where
it became man ready for him where the team made
a quarterback, they still saw a play around him because
of what you have with the run game in Ezekiel Elliott,
Tony Romo goes down. That's the last great Day three
story outside of Mister Relevant with Brock Party, and Brock
Party is again in a situation where it's man made.
(01:30:24):
It was ready to be in a winning formula. Shooters
in Cleveland And whether or not you want to say
that Cleveland is a bad destination for any quarterback, it's
not a good team. They had struggles last year with
everyone outside of Miles Garrett. They revamped their entire offensive line.
They got a brand new run game in the building.
Because if you no longer have the Nick Chubb that
we saw become an All Pro. They have questions at
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wide receiver, they have questions when it comes to the
defensive play calling, they have questions when it comes to
their head coach.
Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
Nobody is winning that situation.
Speaker 7 (01:30:54):
It takes a special stipulation that comes out for a
Day three player to eventually hit their stride. Should always
not in that situation. Don Dak Prescott, it's not brock
party two point out, Well, this guy wasn't a Day
three he wasn't even a Day two guy. But he
is some way that Texans are counting on, and he
has made his intentions known.
Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
Who exactly that is.
Speaker 6 (01:31:14):
We will talk about also a couple of other situations
in the NFL that do pertain at least loosely to
the Texans. We'll dig in on that here as we
continue the Texans talk here on the Sean Salisbury Show,
it is Dan still with you, Triple E. Emmanuel Elmore,
He's Gold Thompson in for Sean but this is Sports
Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
Who's Who's Shaw.
Speaker 8 (01:31:38):
He's the use eternal judge who sits on high he
has the final say on all disputes.
Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
Back to the Sean Salisbury show on Sports.
Speaker 6 (01:31:46):
Talk seven ninety, and they are in the group that
is at the bottom of teams that have the multiple ones,
like the Ravens have four two.
Speaker 4 (01:31:56):
I think I saw the Rams were in there, So we.
Speaker 7 (01:31:58):
Have four, Ravens have four, where Bills have five. Bengals
I think have.
Speaker 6 (01:32:02):
Four, but the two highest are the Cowboys at six
and then the Chiefs at seven, which the Chiefs will
be on Thanksgiving. And then I think, did I see
this earlier on the offseason that they were at least
behind the scenes trying to pine for become like the
Cowboys and Lions are on Thanksgiving Day for Christmas Day.
Speaker 7 (01:32:21):
Yeah, they were trying to They want to then have
that last spot because remember there's currently the third game
that's wide open. So Detroit always has the early game,
Dallas has the mid level game, and then there's the
question mark on who's playing on the on the late
night game. This year it's Washington. I think it's it's Washington.
Minnesota if I'm not mistaken, and then both of them
play again. Detroit Minnesota play on Christmas.
Speaker 4 (01:32:43):
I'll be watching the Egg Bowl, but they moved it
this year. It's on Black Friday Night. That shows you
how close I've been paying see. But that's the problem
that I get.
Speaker 7 (01:32:52):
Okay, let me get your opinion on this, because I've
always wanted to pick the brains of other college football
for shadows?
Speaker 4 (01:33:00):
Do you hate? The NFL has kind of taken.
Speaker 7 (01:33:02):
Over certain days and made the college football schedule on
the back burner.
Speaker 6 (01:33:07):
See, I'm a guy that honestly, it's just like I
don't worry about the way I want things to be.
I just focus on the way that they are. And
I just know that the NFL is the juggernaut. They're
not going to get moved off. I mean, they finally
got to a point with Christmas Day and said, why
do we have to sit around here and watch all
of these NBA games that nobody cares about when we
could be able to infringe on that and people will
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watch us. So they did, and the same thing with
you know people all they're going to go up against
the college football playoff.
Speaker 4 (01:33:33):
The NFL says, Okay, so.
Speaker 7 (01:33:35):
Well, okay, So like last year, the College Football Playoff
and the NFL on Saturday have the same number.
Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
It was I think thirty one million off, but that
day ruled.
Speaker 6 (01:33:43):
I mean it was it was so like spread out
that I was like, I having enough options, especially that
time of the year when you know that football's going away,
so you're like, man, I better really enjoy these now
as opposed to what's going to be in about a month.
Speaker 7 (01:33:57):
But then what they did was they put Philadelphia in
one Washington this year on that Saturday of the College
Football Playoff because they know that that's going to be
a game that has massive playoff implications. So therefore they're
overtaking college football because that there is a nich audience
for college football and it continues to dwindle in this
world of nil where you don't really realize how many
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teams are losing talents left and right because if they're
getting bought out by bigger schools. So it does change
the way that we view the sport. So what is
the NFL doing. They're profiting by making sure that people
are tuned off on Saturday for the college game and
only welcoming in the Sunday game that is now taking
over on Saturday. But like my entire premise here is
that I grew up in a household where the Lone
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Star Showdown was a staple on Thanksgiving. Yeah, you'd watch
the Cowboys, whether they were good or not, you'd see
them at the beginning and then you'd transition on over
to Kyle Field or to DKR. And now that game
has moved to Friday this year, which I can appreciate
because of, hey, it's one more thing that I can
go watch the Iron Bowl and be fully locked in
on that one at durre in Hair Stadium. But still
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tradition to me matters when you go sit down, have
a nice piece of pumpkin pie and you get to
watch the Aggies crowd to the longboards.
Speaker 4 (01:35:09):
That's I appreciate. And the same thing for the Egg Bowl.
Speaker 7 (01:35:12):
There's something about that game having its validity celebrated at
the national level because if rivalries are supposed to be
indoctrinated that way, and I want it back, like maybe
it's me complaining and it's old man yelling at cloudspite
being thirty one, but I enjoy the fact that we
had those games on its own standalone matchups.
Speaker 6 (01:35:28):
I just know that when you have the upper hand
like the NFL does, well, I mean, you've got to
be able to show that you have hand.
Speaker 4 (01:35:34):
And I didn't misspeak. That's what it's called. It's called
having hand.
Speaker 7 (01:35:37):
No, you're one hundred percent right, it is. It's it's ridiculous.
But also, what is the NFL going to It's like
when people complain about the college Football Playoff National Championship
being on a Monday night.
Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
So many people, I.
Speaker 7 (01:35:49):
Hear, well, this should be a Saturday game because it's
meant for the Saturday. Okay, don't watch it on a
Monday and then let's see what happens. You're still gonna
watch it? Well, I mean that's usually when people can play.
And that's what I tell them is I'm like, okay, well,
then have enough people that stop watching it, have enough
people that stop paying into it, and then they say, huh,
we're losing money.
Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
But no, I not lose money. But I don't want
to be the one that's caught caught that's causing that.
Speaker 7 (01:36:13):
I want to be the one that is watching other
people speak the volume.
Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
That way I can do my job. You don't care
enough you don't.
Speaker 6 (01:36:21):
It's not like they're playing this game on a Wednesday
or on a Tuesday night, like they're playing it on
Monday night. Like, what the hell else are you doing?
You gotta go to work the next day. You're gonna
watch the game.
Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
It don't care.
Speaker 7 (01:36:30):
Like it's not Max and or Conference you I said,
it's between the Big ten, the SEC and maybe you'll
throw a Notre Dame ever every other few years. That's
what it is. You know who's gonna be playing. You're
still gonna be watching it. Can we please move on
from it? Like like that's where it drives me nuts.
How many people are so sporadic about how, oh, it's
the Sunday game and we have to split it with
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Monday night football. They take Monday night football off for
you to be center stage.
Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
Can you not appreciate that?
Speaker 7 (01:36:55):
Because the NFL has taken away college football playoff realm
because they moved it to Saturday, so you at least
you gotta stand alone game in this.
Speaker 6 (01:37:04):
It's the same people too that, oh, let's move this,
let's move the super Bowl this Saturday. No be man
enough to drink and man enough to go to work
or just take.
Speaker 4 (01:37:12):
A day off.
Speaker 7 (01:37:13):
Damn, there you go, here's one of your sick days.
Go ahead and get plastered, and.
Speaker 6 (01:37:18):
Yeah, that's that's always my favorite. Like when I was,
you know, in the filling role at a previous stot,
Oh I'm not feeling well. I wrote them back. I said, gee,
I wonder why what happened? How exactly did you hang
out with Jack and Gym last night? Yeah, no, that's that.
That was exactly on our response. And then the next day,
I mean to the bosses, they even said it. I
was like, let's bs, dude, don't call me in the
going all the morning show. When I know that you're
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a quote unquote feeling just fine, you're feeling a certain
other way.
Speaker 7 (01:37:43):
See when I was working at the other place, I
didn't drink on superle Sunday because I knew I was
gonna get called in. Like I just had it on display.
I was like, I know I'm getting called in. I'm
totally cool with it. I don't need to have an
alcoholic beverage.
Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
I'm cool.
Speaker 6 (01:37:56):
You know what, if you're feeling a little banged up
the next day, that's just the that's just the price
of playing. And I'm good with super Bowl being where
it's at will Anderson Junior.
Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
No surprise.
Speaker 6 (01:38:05):
He was at a firefighter event the other day and
he's kind of like c. J. Stroud, he's got those
contract talks coming up here in pretty short order, but
that he wants to be here the rest of his
career is what he said, which is not really a
surprise that he feels that way. Clearly, he's a guy
that means a lot in that locker room. Clearly he's
somebody that you're gonna be counting on at least here
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in the very near future. But the fact that he's
throwing out there that is not the same thing that
is being said Cole at the moment up in Cincinnati
between Trey Hendrickson in the Bengals where he shows up
the other day and saying that it's now personal between them.
They haven't talked to him, and oh, by the way,
his head coach, Zach Taylor cinema text and was like, Hey,
if you don't show up from mandatory mini camp, you
(01:38:49):
get fined.
Speaker 7 (01:38:50):
That sounds like a great situation for a team that's
all in on its offense this year. Tre How do
you mess that up? Is my main question, because, like
She was in a good job of understanding. We're a
defensive minded team. We're gonna pay our defensive players. So
Jalen Peatries locked up, Dereck Singley slocked up. We went,
We brought in CJ.
Speaker 4 (01:39:07):
Gardner Johnson.
Speaker 7 (01:39:08):
We're gonna put money aside for Daniel Hunter on a
one year contract to extend him. We're gonna put money
aside on Will Anderson. Our offenses has to be minimally average.
Your offense last year in Cincinnati was good enough to
win you a Super Bowl. Your defense cost you a
playoff spot. And the one bright spot of your defense
was Trey Hendrickson, who, for my money, falls in that
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line of maybe not Miles Garrett level pass rusher, maybe
not Micah Parsons level pass rusher. But when you mentioned
names like Daniel Hunter, maybe you could throw in like
a Nick Bosa in a bad year or like former
what Joey Bosa used to be. Trey Hendrickson's right there.
He's going to give you twenty sacks a season. He's
going to give you twenty five tackles for losses. He's
gonna be a name that puts you on the market
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to where you are at least watchable and then say
you say, oh, you know what, t Higgins our number
two wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (01:39:57):
We're gonna pay him first. We don't need pass rushing out.
No Joe Burrow.
Speaker 7 (01:40:01):
Remember the meme that they had at one point when
it was Joe Burrow no offensive line not being able
to find his receiver versus Joe Burrow finding a normal
receiver that wasn't Jamar Chase. Right, that's it now, except
it's hey, Joe Burrow, you're going to have to outscore
everybody and throw for five hundred and fifty yards, five touchdowns,
zero turnovers, I cot pleic percentage around seventy five percent
and a passer rating of one thirty nine just to
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be able to get to the postseason.
Speaker 4 (01:40:23):
That's what you are at this point.
Speaker 6 (01:40:25):
Well, and it's not only that, I mean it's you know,
an organization that has the history of things like this
with players, and I mean, you know, Jonathan Joseph when
he got here was like, man, it's actually nice to
be with a capable organization that seemingly cares about its guys,
as opposed to the other place where they started to
count how many gatorades we took out of the out
of the cooler.
Speaker 7 (01:40:44):
Do you remember when Carson Palmer finally left Cincinnati and
went to then Oakland and talked about how I feel
sorry for the next quarterback that has to sign there.
They finally have that guy, and they're treating the situation
the exact same and to be completely transparent, Joe Burrow
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is a much more polished passer than Carson Palmer was.
You can actually win the whole thing with a guy
like Joe Burrow at the help.
Speaker 4 (01:41:13):
You have to make the changes.
Speaker 7 (01:41:15):
If you refuse to make the changes, you constantly are
living in this world of mediocrity.
Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
And then fans wonder the what if situation?
Speaker 7 (01:41:23):
What if we finally had somebody competent running the show.
You can't until ownership finally is willing to bend the
knee and realize, if we do not change, changes come
into our city and it's not gonna end good for us.
Speaker 6 (01:41:35):
Bad organizations continue to be bad organizations, and luckily the Texans, well,
it seems like they've kind of worked their way out
of being thought of that way. So we'll see if
they are able to stay that way. With some of
the guys that got in the building and will Anderson
Junior definitely one of those guys. Let's stick with the
NFL here coming up here on the Sean Salisbury Show,
because once a past a side position.
Speaker 4 (01:41:58):
Well now if you don't have one, you seem like
you're in trouble. We'll talk about it here.
Speaker 6 (01:42:02):
It is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued, and uh, you.
Speaker 6 (01:42:12):
Know the Timmons brothers, small's all of them. You know,
we all learned that that day right there is uh,
you know they they they beat those those guys on
the on the sand lot and then they you know,
went about their went about their way and celebrate the Tigers.
Speaker 4 (01:42:27):
I can't remember exactly what it was. I just remember
that you played ball like a girl. Yeah, you play
ball like a girl. Well what did you say? You
heard me? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:42:35):
Hamilton and Bay Porter they were in town, like the
cast was, I think everybody except for Benny. And they
did a screening over at Colin, the Colin Theater over
there at U of H. And I was like, damn,
I wanted to be there for it, but it was
Megan's birthday.
Speaker 4 (01:42:49):
Have you seen how big I is now? He's like
a bodybuilder.
Speaker 7 (01:42:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah I have yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so.
Speaker 6 (01:43:01):
He uh yeah, and and what was it the guy
that played Hamilton the Baby.
Speaker 4 (01:43:05):
He's actually a pretty funny follow. Whatever is not Patrick Doherty,
I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (01:43:10):
Yeah, so yeah, he's he's a pretty funny follow. And
he did where I think he's at a mall and
I can't remember if he's going up or down all
the down right, and yeah, yeah's got like, you know,
all the right exactly. And he's and he's crushing a
hot dog and you know, it's kind of one of
those like he's being given a look of judgment for
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eating that hot dog. But it's like I felt that,
you know, I get it, but you know it's also too.
I mean, I got a buddy of mine who's like
a competitive crossfitter, and I posted, you know, being at
Waterburger once and he's like, yeah, that's the way to
get in shape.
Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
I wrote him back.
Speaker 6 (01:43:43):
I go, you know what, maybe it does take years
off my life, but at least I'm going to enjoy it,
and I'm not eating skinless chicken and green beans and
other things which.
Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
There's value in that.
Speaker 6 (01:43:53):
Don't get me wrong, But it's like, dude, like, let
me enjoy the waterburger.
Speaker 4 (01:43:58):
I'll be fine, trust me at five am to poop
myself and then cry myself to sleep.
Speaker 7 (01:44:02):
It's just it's it's like I get it, Like that's
the way you want to live your life.
Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
But I want to enjoy tasty food my entire thing.
Speaker 3 (01:44:08):
I get it.
Speaker 6 (01:44:09):
Yeah, I probably need to lose a little bit of way, sure,
probably do my entire enjoy.
Speaker 4 (01:44:13):
CrossFit and the CrossFit culture. Easy. Now I'm part of it,
are you? Yes? I am. Do you boast about it? No,
that's the point. Just leave it.
Speaker 7 (01:44:22):
Be like, don't try to sell me the supplements on
what I need to do to get back at you.
I know that I am just barely getting by when
I got to the.
Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
Sheep, and let me just get by.
Speaker 6 (01:44:31):
So I first wanted to do it because I mean,
obviously I wanted to get into shape. That was the
entire reason I had no desire to like go compete
in games and do all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:44:38):
And I did.
Speaker 6 (01:44:39):
But I remember when I first started it, the guy
was like one of those like ultra CrossFit people and
telling me like organic diet and all of that. And
he told me that, and I go, okay, so you're
gonna pay for me to go to the store and
buy all that. I ain't doing that, dude.
Speaker 7 (01:44:51):
I got told by a personal trainer. So I was
at my I was at my gym. They do a recommendation.
You give like five names and then you get like
the one hour training set. So I did it because
I was like, screwt, why not Let's see how big
of a piece of crap I am and in your eyes?
He then tells me afterwards, you need to be working
out with me four days.
Speaker 4 (01:45:10):
Of course. Oh no, but here's my favorite one.
Speaker 7 (01:45:12):
Of course, one of those days needs to be cardio,
where I will tell you what speed and what size
on the trajectory at the olypod.
Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Bro.
Speaker 7 (01:45:20):
No, I if I just need to go walk three miles,
I'll do it around my my apartment complex. I'll do
it around my house, and I'll do it with my dogs.
I won't be paying you to tell me.
Speaker 4 (01:45:31):
No.
Speaker 7 (01:45:32):
Now, I got to be at this speed. Now, put
up to five miles per hour, put it down at
three miles. Part this is the angle that you need
to be walking on if you're not going at this arch,
You're doing it wrong.
Speaker 4 (01:45:41):
I don't need that.
Speaker 6 (01:45:43):
I don't begrudge people for doing it. And you know,
and they want to make that a priority in life,
that's fine. It's just like for me, I'm just like, Hey,
I played sports growing up, I did the conditioning, I
did all of that. I don't need to have someone
telling me how to do it anymore. Like I let
me go there and try to get in shape, let
me go at my speed, which most places do a
good job of doing that, Like you know, it's mostly
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weekend warriors in there. Nobody's trying to compete for games
or doing that kind of stuff. That's fine, But like
it's the places that you go to that like try
to do like the one size fits all, And I'm
just like, you're gonna get somebody killed.
Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
Dude, Isn't that for me? It's oh, I legit.
Speaker 6 (01:46:18):
Told a crossfait coach once, like the way he was
coaching a classico, You're gonna get somebody killed.
Speaker 4 (01:46:22):
It's even for me.
Speaker 7 (01:46:23):
It's more so just like I know that I'm here
for one reason. I don't want to feel like I'm
that big of a piece of crap.
Speaker 4 (01:46:31):
Let me just do on my workout getting it out.
Speaker 7 (01:46:35):
The way to sell me off of your products so
fast is by telling me why I need to be
doing this this way. I understand my form is not perfect.
Is it the worst thing you've ever seen?
Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
No?
Speaker 7 (01:46:47):
Okay, then shut up and let me just do my
workouts so I can get on out of here. I
promise you. I want to get a daily vitamin. I
go and I buy my daily vitamins from my gym.
I take it once a day. I feel good about
myself afterwards. I don't need to be over on why
this creating powder is better than the creating powder I'm
getting at GNC, And why need to be taking three
supplements versus the two I'm taking already.
Speaker 6 (01:47:08):
It's a lot, man, and that's the only part of it.
As well as you know, you got enough problems in life,
like remember what Rip told Beth on Yellowstone. Life's hard enough.
Don't make it even harder on yourself iving that.
Speaker 7 (01:47:18):
Just like I don't need the extra mileage to be
putting more things on my brain. I work in sports
talk radio. I worry about two dogs. I worry about
a podcast I do for SEC football. On the side,
I don't need to be knowing at hey, twelve thirty
every day I need to be taking this supplement along
with this protein.
Speaker 6 (01:47:34):
That's why we call you irons in the fire. Cole
Thompson a lot Have I been called that before? Well
you just are so now we're sticking with it. Irons
in the fire. That's that's that's your new name. Astros
come back and beat the Royals last night four to three.
They take that serious. Rangers up in Arlington coming up,
Texans for nationally televised games coming up this season, as
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they're gonna have a couple of Monday Night one Prime
and one on Sunday Night Football against the Bills here
in town. Running Backs, I mean, it's a position that
for the longest time, it was you're drafting a running
back in the first round, you just threw away a pick.
Now it seems like that teams when you have them,
it used to be don't pay them. But Derrick Henry
(01:48:17):
kind of proven yesterday that it's one of those Oh
you're still durable, Oh you're still good. Did you think
then we're gonna pay you? Do you think he was
gonna take a step back when he got to Baltimore.
I thought I thought he was taking it at the
end when he was in Tennessee and it was more
or less of Oh, the rest of his team sucks.
He was just that much better than everybody else, and
that started to wear him down a little bit. Then
he gets to Baltimore. You got a capable quarterback, You've
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got good players that are around you, and all of
a sudden you say, hmm, this is better.
Speaker 4 (01:48:45):
I'm not counting on as much as I was there.
Speaker 7 (01:48:47):
What if I told you that with more carries in
his career than he's had ever since twenty twenty, he's
averaged more yards, more first downs, the same amount of
rushing touchdowns, more explosive plays first downs, and fewer fumbles
in Baltimore than he had in Tessy and he's thirty one.
Speaker 6 (01:49:05):
Doesn't surprise me, I mean, but it's also too I
mean again, Cole. He doesn't have, you know, the the
lack of talent that he had in the previous place.
He's got a better offensive line, He's got many other
things that are working for him.
Speaker 7 (01:49:16):
He's got a quarterback that's confident and can actually move
and not put all the pressure on him to be
the back bunt of the offense.
Speaker 4 (01:49:23):
Crazy when that concept works, right, Dan, No, exactly.
Speaker 6 (01:49:26):
And that's where you know, for Tennessee, it's what a
hell of a year to need a quarterback. And I mean,
I think cam Ward will be fine. I don't think
that he's going to be this you know, transcendent talent
that's gonna, you know, change the organization. And I mean
that's just kind of the place they found themselves in
where I mean when they drafted Will Levis and I
could have told you that. You could have told people
that when they drafted him, of you know, all of
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a sudden, this guy's gonna be so much better. So
he's gonna stop overthrowing people like he did when he
was at Kentucky.
Speaker 7 (01:49:52):
Okay, I'll put you on the spot. Then he went
there from Penn State for a reason. But go ahead,
Bryce Shunger cam Ward next three years, Bryce Young, Kyler,
Murray Berger, cam War in the next three years. I
don't know enough about cam Ward Baker, Baker Mayfielder, cam
War in the next three years.
Speaker 4 (01:50:11):
I'm not as big of a Baker guy as everybody else.
Speaker 7 (01:50:14):
Yeah, that's my point when it comes to cam Ward
is if you're trying to be the number one overall pick.
I think that my franchise needs to be transcended into
a new level to where I feel like you're going
to help me win. I would rather Michael Pennock's junior
with the Atlanta Falcons the cam Ward right.
Speaker 6 (01:50:30):
Now, Well, are you gonna get see them five times
this year on national TV? Which they don't even want
to watch them five times in that market?
Speaker 7 (01:50:37):
Why do we keep giving bad to like like the Cowboys.
I get it, they're quote unquote America's team. No, they're
America's play other, America's paycheck. I get that they have
to be on national television. Why are we giving bad
markets great games?
Speaker 6 (01:50:51):
You just answered your question about the Cowboys because even
if you hate them, you hate watch because you want
to make fun of them. You want to share the memes,
and you want to be able to you know, like
everybody else on social media.
Speaker 7 (01:51:02):
It's why Notre Dame is going to go to the
college football playoff every year just because if people.
Speaker 4 (01:51:06):
Hate watch them. Am I like, there's power in being
in that position.
Speaker 6 (01:51:10):
I mean, look, it's there is a little bit of jealousy,
but it's also too what did they do to deserve this?
Speaker 7 (01:51:16):
Now, They played a minuscule schedule against inferior competition, kept
it close in a game that you probably should have
lost that you eventually won, and you did enough to
be able to be known as the most hated college
football team in America.
Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
Welcome to college football, like, welcome the ratings. That's what
it is. You have to have a villain in the sport.
Speaker 6 (01:51:35):
No, you do, And I mean that's why it's kind
of funny enough that we've got one in this town.
Which I mean that was the thing, like when you know,
all the astro stuff came out a buddy of mine,
he he got me to think this way, he goes.
Welcome to being the Patriots, Like this is good.
Speaker 4 (01:51:49):
I know, it's not a bad thing.
Speaker 7 (01:51:51):
By the way, people want you to go to the
playoffs so they can be the reason why your street
comes to an end. Like that's kind of what it is.
That's why people want Alabama to play. Like Alabama fans.
They were the villain of college football because if nobody
could take them away.
Speaker 6 (01:52:04):
Though, can I ask that, what do you mean Alabama fans? Yeah,
like they seemingly have to remind you that they won
like they're almost the aggie fans on steroids.
Speaker 4 (01:52:11):
That's I'm not even gonna.
Speaker 7 (01:52:13):
Answer that because they're not. Because at least they can
back themselves up and say they want something. Then why
do you have to say it? We see it? It's
fine because of it has to I don't know, like
because if they know that they've been waiting for this
moment to be relished. Back at the National Conversation, you've
been there for twenty years, I know, well again, do
you do? I think that right now they deserve to
be talking.
Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
No.
Speaker 7 (01:52:32):
It's like when people last year were saying that they
belonged to the playoff despite being nine and three. You
lost to Vanderbilt in Nashville and an Oklahoma team that
ranked dead last in passing, You really think you belong
in the playoffs. I gotten screaming match with my brother
and my mother about this for two days. They didn't
belong in the playoffs, But yet Alabama fans think that
script day carries so much weight.
Speaker 4 (01:52:53):
It's the same thing with the Patriots.
Speaker 7 (01:52:55):
If you're in that range of ten and seven, you
automatically belong to the playoffs because of what they said
in the past.
Speaker 4 (01:53:01):
All right.
Speaker 6 (01:53:01):
I was gonna go with Bill Belichick next, because I mean,
it's seemingly the storyline on this show that will not
die and go away. But since we're gonna have Gordy
coming up in about fifteen minutes, we'll lead into him
with this, and it's Arch Manning and it is just
something that I honestly can't get out of my head.
Speaker 4 (01:53:18):
And we'll talk about it here.
Speaker 6 (01:53:19):
It is a Sean Salisbury Show, Cale Thompson, and for
Sean it is Sports Talk seven ninety.
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This is the Sean Salisbury Show, Get back at it.
Gordy has called himself an arch truther. He thinks that
Arch Manning is worth the hype, that he is going
to live up to it, and he is going to
be the guy that you know, everybody thinks he can
be at Texas. I go the complete opposite way. My
response is, dude, let the guy play first, like seriously,
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like okay, we saw him do like the Tim Tebow
Chris Leak thing last year, a little bit. That's that's
all good, that's all fine, and Tebow eventually, at least
for what he did, lived up to the hype.
Speaker 4 (01:54:02):
Won the Heisman doing all of that. I mean, couldn't
throw the football.
Speaker 6 (01:54:05):
We get all that, but I mean at the same time,
you know, he still had to prove that he was
the guy.
Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
He also won a national title, which kind of helped out.
Speaker 6 (01:54:12):
Sure, absolutely, But like with Arch, like I look at it,
you're replacing a lot on the offensive line. Sure, you're
replacing a lot in a receiver group that was not
all that good to begin with. But I mean you've
got both of those that you have to deal with
this year, and it's going to be your first year starting.
I just Cole, I look at it, and I'm like,
to Texas fans, I'm like, guys, you're putting expectations on
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this guy that just cannot be met.
Speaker 7 (01:54:37):
So do you remember Nikoiyamaliaba when he was coming out
of high school number one recruit goes to tennesseee.
Speaker 6 (01:54:44):
It kind of reminds me of Djungali and when he
came out, like everybody was like, Oh, this guy's better
than Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 4 (01:54:49):
He's going to be unbelievable. It's like, Okay, So.
Speaker 7 (01:54:52):
I remember when Nico played the first time in the
bowl game against Iowa, and I had to then calm
down Tennessee fans for the next six months, saying, let
him learn how to play in Josh Heipel's offense, you would.
Speaker 4 (01:55:05):
Be a good team.
Speaker 7 (01:55:06):
I have no doubt the Tennessee will not be a
good team, but it's not because of Nico and the backup.
You would have thought that I said that Tennessee was
gonna go two to ten, they were going to finish
by firing their coach, and that the entire program.
Speaker 4 (01:55:20):
Was lost by saying Nico probably.
Speaker 7 (01:55:22):
Is not going to meet the same expectations that you
have for him because you set them at a bar
that was so high that it was constantly being moved
up further and further to where it kind of took
you away from what actually Nico was supposed to be.
A young player learning how to navigate through a season,
mitigate through an offense, and build a rapport with his receivers.
Speaker 4 (01:55:43):
That's what arches. That being said, I'm not worried about Texas.
I'm not. I think Texas is still gonna.
Speaker 7 (01:55:49):
Be a top five team in college football this year.
I think they have one of the better defenses. They
absolutely have the best linebacker returning in the sport. They
have one of the best safeties returning in the sport.
Good secondary, very solid pass rush for Collins Simmons back.
I trust what Kyle Flood's doing with the offensive line
because of the fact that we've seen the success rate
for Alabama every single year when they would lose players.
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Texas has brought in that saint type of talent. Number
one recruiting class, very good transfer portal. Addition, I love
what they brought in on the defensive line. Jack Rys
the titand that comes on in from cal I think
is the second best tight end in college football, mostly
comes on in from Stanford. Really good freshman season. I
don't doubt that Texas is going to be with that schedule,
still in the running for an eleven to one, ten
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and two finish.
Speaker 4 (01:56:34):
But it's not.
Speaker 7 (01:56:34):
Because of Arch It's because of the supporting cast that's
around him and having a solid defense. Nika Wayamaliavo was
not theres in Tennessee made the College Football Playoff last year.
The rushing attack and the defense prevailed out in Knoxville.
Speaker 6 (01:56:48):
That's Austin well and it's also where I'm going with
this is saw this story on awful announcing Adam Schefter
throwing out the idea of a NFL draft lottery. For
arch Man, It's like he hasn't even played a game yet.
He hasn't even played a meaningful game yet. And I
understand he got a couple of starts because it was
a season and Quinn Ewers is on the field, which
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means that Quinn you is gonna get hurt and somebody
else is gonna have to play quarterback.
Speaker 7 (01:57:12):
But Mississippi State and UTSA are not building blockstor where
you figure out what a player is.
Speaker 4 (01:57:18):
It's not Missippi State went two and ten last year.
Speaker 7 (01:57:21):
It wasn't a good Jeff Trailer team out in San Antonio.
It was a rebuilding year for both programs. That's not
a building point to where I say arch manning number
one pick in twenty twice.
Speaker 6 (01:57:32):
I just think, I think we do this to ourselves
all the time, and especially college football fans do this
themselves where you want something to be the case as
opposed to what it really will be. And I don't
have any doubts that he can be a good quarterback,
and maybe he will live up to the expectations. But
I just I tell fans all the time when they
do this to themselves. I've seen it way too often
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where it's oh, you know this guy, you know, you
go ahead and put him in as the first round
pick here in about three years.
Speaker 4 (01:57:58):
It's like, okay, I.
Speaker 6 (01:58:01):
Mean, I just I that's fine, because the guy that
is always the most popular is the backup who's a
five star on the bench that the coach isn't smart
enough to be able to play.
Speaker 4 (01:58:10):
Get all of that.
Speaker 6 (01:58:11):
That's fine, But then they finally get their opportunity, and
I'm like, well, if they don't, if they don't live
up to that expectation, you're the only one that set
yourself up for it.
Speaker 4 (01:58:20):
You hoped rather than believe. See.
Speaker 7 (01:58:22):
I don't really have a problem with you believing that
Arch is going to live out to expectations. What I
have a problem with is you see the quarterback rankings
that come out by like two, four to seven Sports
and like on three and all the publications, and Arch
is number one, ahead of Kate club Nick, ahead of
Garrett Nusmeier, ahead of Leonora's sellers, DJ Lagway, who was
a freshman that actually had to play meaningful games last
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year and one games against LSU and Ole miss I
had a jah Matteer, who's coming on in with the
same offensive coordinator in Norman, Oklahoma that he just put
up over four thousand totally archs of scrimmage in Pulman, Washington.
But Arch because of the Manning name, like change the
last name to Johnson. Is is he even in the
running for QB one in the SEC. No, He's probably
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like QB seven, QB eight, And I think that.
Speaker 4 (01:59:06):
The talent is there.
Speaker 7 (01:59:07):
But like I know what I'm getting a jometerier, I
know what I'm getting in the Norris Sellers, I know
what I'm getting in Marcel Reed even. And we're saying
that because if he's Arch Manning automatically going to hit,
can we please let him play one game against our
ranked opponent, Ohio State Week one, eleven am kick.
Speaker 4 (01:59:25):
I'm not saying I'll know everything about Arch.
Speaker 7 (01:59:26):
Manning, but at that point, depending on how he looks,
I can have a gauge on what interest he's going
to go to, what direction he's trying.
Speaker 4 (01:59:32):
To get ready for the hype machine.
Speaker 6 (01:59:34):
If they win that game and he plays somewhat well
higher than Kenny Trill back in twenty sixteen, Yes, yes, yeah,
I remember that game against South Carolina here.
Speaker 4 (01:59:43):
A lot of five touchdowns that was ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (01:59:45):
Yeah, and then well then he ended up at TCU.
So hopefully Arch is able to avoid a similar fate.
What we won't avoid because we don't want to. It's
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After the Astros come back to beat the Royals four
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in this conversation. But since Cole is here and since
you're here, well, college football is a huge thing that
we're all big fans of, and we were just talking
about Arch Manning and I informed him that you are
an Arch truther. Seems like that me and are both
on the same side of Hey, let the guy play
a little bit, whereas you're ready to go full on
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ind that believe the hype in Arch.
Speaker 5 (02:01:51):
Well, I think he's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 11 (02:01:53):
I mean, we can't ignore what everything that they lost
around him, and it's a lot they've got to replace,
but sarks a great job of recruiting.
Speaker 5 (02:02:01):
They've had some added some pieces here and there through
the portal.
Speaker 11 (02:02:03):
So yeah, I mean it's look, you could sell me on.
He has an up and down year, comes back in
between twenty six and Texas is a preseason national championship favorite.
Speaker 5 (02:02:15):
Twenty twenty six with a season arch Manning.
Speaker 11 (02:02:17):
I can buy that, but I just look at what
they've done the last two seasons, making the playoff semi
final two straight years. Yeah, the expectations have not changed
in Austin. And you look at the Vegas win totals
fan will put up yesterday. They got Alabama, Georgia and
Texas all right there. At nine and a half wins,
Texas is expected to be a ten win team and
back in the playoff again.
Speaker 6 (02:02:38):
All right, so let's get into the astros here. You're
watching listening along with us all last night. Colton Gordon,
what were your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (02:02:46):
Yeah, I thought it was pretty good.
Speaker 11 (02:02:47):
I mean, I know the onus and scattering report on
him coming in was that you know he's gonna throw strikes,
and so you throw strikes, you're gonna give up hits.
Speaker 5 (02:02:55):
And he gave up seven of them.
Speaker 11 (02:02:57):
Did show us some swing and miss stuff, got you know,
got some three three strikeouts.
Speaker 5 (02:03:01):
But you know, I.
Speaker 11 (02:03:03):
Thought I thought it was an okay outing. I thought
it was okay. I mean, I and I know it ends.
Speaker 5 (02:03:08):
Up on two.
Speaker 11 (02:03:08):
He gave up leaving Dubin gives up the hit that
that scorts the third run, but I thought it was okay,
it was a good starting point, but this just kind
of exacerbates. Man, you've got some studs on this pitching staff.
You know, when Fromber is rocking and he's good, he's
a stud. Hunter Brown's been awesome all year, but the
back end of the staff right now is very a
lot of question marks. Spencer Getty's still out. You know,
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you're looking up and down this roster going all right,
Lance mccullors, you know what's you know, you're holding your breath.
Speaker 5 (02:03:36):
On what he's gonna look like his next outing.
Speaker 11 (02:03:38):
Ryan Gusto and it wasn't great the other night and
al Colton Gordon.
Speaker 5 (02:03:42):
You know, okay, four to third.
Speaker 11 (02:03:44):
Three erin, but you know, if he's gonna stay up here,
he's gonna have to do better than that. So that's
just kind of what you look at. And again, to me,
McCullers is the biggest one. He's the vet, right. I
mean that we can get mad at Gusto and Gordon,
but their rookies get their first taste. To me, the
has to be on the Colors has to be better
in his next start, and honestly, his next several starts.
Speaker 7 (02:04:06):
Gordy Christian Walker two O eight batting average, two thirty one,
nine strike ONTs in his last seven games. At some point,
it just feels like stubborness from Joe Aspata leaving him
in the four hole, especially when you start to have
the conversations of, well, it's better for esac Parades to
line out with two outs rather than get him on
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base and then know that you're not going to score
a run. Is a move eventually going to happen where
you think that they will see the numbers are not
backing up Christian Walker in the cleanup spot and he'll
be either at the six hole, the five hole, or
even the three hole.
Speaker 5 (02:04:41):
Well, that's that's what I've argued.
Speaker 11 (02:04:43):
I mean, I've been arguing that he needs to be
you know, slide him down a little bit there in
the lineup, because it just feels like every time he
comes up, there's you know, two men all with one
out or two men all with two out, and he
you know, either strikes out or just you know, pops
out or whatever, and it doesn't lead to any and scored.
It just you got to put your guys who are
hitting up there in the top five and you know,
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Jannar Diaz has been hitting as of late, like I would,
I would switch things up just a little bit and
side Christian Walker up there, because you know, even nol
Tuve hasn't been hitting very much as of late. So
you know, I just I can't have too many holes
in the top of my lineup right now. And Walker
again last night, they're ero for four night with two strikeouts,
a batting average sitting at two toh one on base
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percentage to eighty one. It's just not good enough. He
far and away, he leads the team in strikeouts. You know,
he's on pace to finish. If he stays on this pace,
he's gonna finish top twenty in all of baseball and strikeouts. Uh,
it's you know, the signing. We can we can debate
the signing and should they have gotten him and all this.
He's been very good defensively, so I give him that.
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But yeah, it just feels like, you know, they were
doing it with Jose Bray you for the longest, like
they kept hitting him in that four spot. It was like, dude,
what are you doing. It's not working. And you can
do back of the baseball card all you want. But
at a certain point I got to put my better
hitters in the top of my order to drive in runs.
Speaker 6 (02:06:04):
Well, I mean, it's also too Gordy. What's you know
puzzling to me and Cole on this we talked about
a little bit earlier. Is you see how well he's
hitting the five spot? You see how well he's hitting
the three? I mean, Jordon or no, Jordon, Like, what
what is the rush to move him into this spot?
Speaker 2 (02:06:22):
Move?
Speaker 4 (02:06:22):
Who gore talking about Walker? Sorry?
Speaker 11 (02:06:27):
Oh yeah, well that's that's what I'm saying. I mean,
maybe that's what they're looking at, is when Jordon gets back,
maybe you have the luxury and then you could slide
and then you can slide him down a spot or two.
But again, you know, and it's hard to say because
Jannar Diezzel for three last night, but you know, I
just felt like he's put up so much better, more
competitive at bats as of late than Walker.
Speaker 5 (02:06:45):
I would I would flip flop them in the lineup
right now. That's just me.
Speaker 11 (02:06:50):
But again, I think just what's happening too many times
is these these guys are coming up the heart of
your order with men on base, and they're not coming
through and it's just, you know, luckily Mauricio Dubon play yesterday.
He's playing like what a dozen games so far the year,
He's barely played. He made the most of his playing
time last night. And Jeremy Paine has been a rock
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star so far, you know, so you can argue, you
can almost argue he's been your team MVP. But just
too many guys batting near the Mendoza line that just
aren't able to drive and run. So yeah, again, when
Jordan gets back, and maybe he gets back here sooner
rather than later, maybe that'll be the move that lets
them or gives them the ability to slidewalk her down
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a spot.
Speaker 4 (02:07:31):
He's the Gordon Tron.
Speaker 6 (02:07:32):
Chris Gordy joins us every Tuesday and Thursday here on
The Sean Salisbury Show courtesy of Carbach Brewing. Uh, let's
get into the pitching a little bit. I mean, last
night you get four and a third out of Colton Gordon,
you get Sean dub and you get Kayla Bard, Brian
King able to put some good things together. I mean,
how fortunate is this team heading into this series against
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the Rangers, who has outstanding starting pitching to be able
to kind of space things out with the bullpen, even
with the rough start by Lance and then the rough
start by Gusto the other night.
Speaker 5 (02:08:05):
Yeah, I mean, look, the bullpen's been outstanding.
Speaker 11 (02:08:07):
I mean they they lead the American League and ERA
at what it was two seventy eight coming into last night.
But all those guys, Steven Oker, Brian A. Bray, you,
Brian King, Bennett Susa, I'll put him in there, Josh Hader,
they've all been incredible. They all have v rays at
one fifty nine or lower. And you know, on the
other side, starting pitching has been good enough to astros
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get a lot of swinging miss I mean, coming in
the last night they were six in strekeouts with all
you know, closing a four hundred strikeouts as a team
or as a pitching staff. So you know, as a
staff to still have, you know, be top ten in
in all of Baseball and ERA. And that's with McCullers
and Gusto and some of these guys you know struggling,
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It just shows how good the front end of this
rotation has been. And so you know, you do the
you do the sign of the cross, and you hope
that all these guys can stay healthy at least on
the front end of your of your squad, because you know,
that's what's gonna keep this thing from falling apart. Here
is keeping you know, Hudder Brown healthy, keeping from Bervaldez
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looking more like vintage from Bervaldez.
Speaker 5 (02:09:12):
And now give Rono Blanca love too.
Speaker 11 (02:09:14):
I mean, he was awesome his his last time out,
well up and down to start the year. But these
are the guys that you're gonna have to lean on
to to carry you because the back end of the
rotation is a little bit of a mess right now.
Speaker 7 (02:09:25):
Hunter Brown starts off the series tonight in Arlington, but
tomorrow is the one that I'm paying most attention to. Cordy,
how important is it for Lance Mcaller's shooting to get
off to a hot start?
Speaker 11 (02:09:36):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's the one I'm looking at.
I mean, in all honestly, tonight is monstrous because you're
going up against the grom and you know, and you're
you're saving your best.
Speaker 5 (02:09:45):
I mean, they if.
Speaker 11 (02:09:47):
They'd kept their rotation going how it was going, Hunter
Brown was supposed to go yesterday, but they saved him.
They pushed him, kind of slowed him back. A spot
and said, oh, we're gonna go with this six man rotation.
And the whole reason was Hunter Brown gives you a
better chance to win in Arlington than you know, who
cares about being Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (02:10:04):
You want to get the division games are.
Speaker 11 (02:10:06):
What matter and honestly, tie breaker could come into play
here by the end of the season with the Texas Rangers.
So a monster game tonight for the Astros with Hunter
Brown playing.
Speaker 5 (02:10:17):
Jacob de Groun's been awesome.
Speaker 11 (02:10:19):
He's three and one with a two seventy two e
RA lo and behold, guy who used to be one
of the best pitchers in baseball's once again one of
the best pitchers in baseball.
Speaker 5 (02:10:26):
So that's a challenge.
Speaker 11 (02:10:28):
And then tomorrow night you get a Valdi who's spin
off to an awesome start. He's even better. He's four
and two with a one to seventy eighty RA. I mean,
he's untouchable. That that one is going to be advantage
Rangers tomorrow night. Yes, mccullors has to play, has to
pitch well, but let's be honest, Evaldi's better.
Speaker 5 (02:10:43):
So you know it's again tonight.
Speaker 11 (02:10:46):
I put the onus on tonight, like find a way
to win tonight because you don't feel good about going
Friday against a Valdi with mccullors counting him. And then
you get you know, Saturday and Sunday and they're throwing
some good arms there too. The Rangers are just they
have really good pitching right now. They were winning games
earlier in the season with lack of offense, and find
a ways to get it done because their pitching staff
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has been so good. So you know, if you're the Astros,
like I said, I'd need to find a way to
win the night because as good as we feel right now, yeah,
we took you in three against the Labars one another
series awesome. If you go up to Arlington gets swept,
all that good will goes out the window.
Speaker 6 (02:11:23):
Yeah, And I mean, you know that's the other part
of it too, is I mean, this is a series
that has become, you know, pretty hotly contested over the years,
especially two with what happened in the LCS. I mean,
this is one that probably for Astro fans. I mean,
I know, the Yankees are there, the Dodgers there, but
the Rangers series whenever it comes up now you're kind
of like, oh, man, like you can't lose.
Speaker 4 (02:11:45):
These guys, Yeah, and.
Speaker 11 (02:11:47):
It's just again they're they're never gonna let you live
it down from the was that the twenty twenty three postseason,
when you know, you win all three up there and
then you come back here and you can't win one
and they go on to the World Series because they
beat you. You gotta keep pace with Arlington. So that's
why I say it's a four game series. Find a
way to split, find a way to go too, and
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two you know, if you can do better than that, awesome,
But I just I don't feel great about where these
bats are.
Speaker 5 (02:12:16):
You found a way to.
Speaker 11 (02:12:16):
Score Atch and Claude get these two wins against Kansas City,
but man, it really took, you know, it took some
of your your backups and your guys down the lineup
doing doing what they need to do to find those wins.
Speaker 5 (02:12:27):
To me, this is a it's just a.
Speaker 11 (02:12:29):
Very important series for from early in the season, you know,
and then after this you get you get Seattle a
couple of times, you get the A's, so a lot
of division games coming up here that the Astros could,
you know that they could keep pacing the Al West
or they could fall back in.
Speaker 5 (02:12:43):
The al Wes if they don't come ready to play.
Speaker 11 (02:12:45):
And and by the way, guys, some interesting notes on
on the series this weekend. Uh, as far as you know,
TV goes MLB network is the game tonight, Apple TV
plus Tomorrow Night, so you have to have that to
watch the game. Sunday's game is Roku, So it's you know,
it's the ever evolving, you know, landscape of TV's rights
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and baseball and all this.
Speaker 5 (02:13:08):
But just know we're gonna have every game for you
for free.
Speaker 11 (02:13:11):
Right here on Sports Talk seven ninety and on the
free iHeart Radio app, So make sure you lock.
Speaker 5 (02:13:15):
It in now.
Speaker 6 (02:13:15):
I was gonna say, don't forget to download that free,
new and improved Dieheart Radio app and have Sports Talk
seven to ninety pre set number one. You get your
stros pretty much wherever you are at. Well, Gordy, I
mean we have you on every Tuesday and Thursday courtesy
at car Bock Brewing. And I mean we got the
weekend coming up, we got this matchup coming up, and
I mean the first part I just mentioned it's the weekend.
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Where I'm going with this is there's never a bad
time to reach into the refrigerator and pull out that
high school Crawford boch.
Speaker 11 (02:13:44):
Yeah, it just makes sense. If you're watching any Astros,
you're drinking a Crawford bock. That's what you need to
be doing. And a lot of folks enjoyed this nice
little home stand. You can enjoy the Crawford bok right
there in the friendly confines of Dykin Park. But for
the road games, if you're watching it on TV, if
you're in the backyard listening to the radio and sports
talks of an eye, you can crack open high school
Crawford back players perfectly with Astros baseball.
Speaker 5 (02:14:04):
With Keel Sunrise stripes on the can. You know it
when you see it all over town.
Speaker 11 (02:14:09):
I've been to HGB, I've been to gas stations, I've
been you know, just about everywhere, and everywhere you go
you see that Crawford bock on the can, Grab it
and get ready to watch some Astros baseball.
Speaker 5 (02:14:18):
A reminder this Sunday they're doing an.
Speaker 11 (02:14:20):
Astros watch party at Carbock Brewing out there in the
Buer Garden.
Speaker 5 (02:14:24):
Family friendly event. Come on out.
Speaker 11 (02:14:26):
They'll have a drink, specials and much more. Game kicks
off the first pitch at noon on Sunday, so a
little bit of an earlier start, because it's a Roku
game twelve or five.
Speaker 5 (02:14:36):
First pitch coming out there.
Speaker 11 (02:14:37):
I'll have you with the on deck show and let's
enjoy being outside watching the Astros on Sunday over there
Carbock Brewing.
Speaker 6 (02:14:43):
Plus you hit me, I and Sean with the Crawford
pale Ale and I've yet to try it yet, but
I am looking forward to that.
Speaker 4 (02:14:51):
Maybe maybe tonight.
Speaker 6 (02:14:52):
Maybe maybe that's when when I finally break into the
pale Ale and see if it matches up with the
Crawford Bach Love Street, you know all the other great
beers they have over there at Carbak.
Speaker 11 (02:15:03):
Yeah, a little bit lighter of a flavor. So whichever
you want to grab Kraferbach or know the logger, you
can grab that as well.
Speaker 6 (02:15:09):
All right man, Well, I appreciate it as always, and
we'll catch up with you again next Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (02:15:15):
Our Fellasia.
Speaker 4 (02:15:16):
All right, there you go.
Speaker 6 (02:15:17):
Chris Gordy joins us every week courtesy of Carbach Brewing.
One thing he talked about with the Astros that I
do want to carry over here because I do think
it is incredibly important about this series. This weekend, we'll
discuss that here. It is a Sean Salisbury show. He's
Cole Thompson in for Sean this Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 6 (02:17:17):
You're home with the Stros and Luke Donald in a
group of ten players, actually nine players that are at
three under includes Keegan Bradley in there right now with
a three hunderd lead they're at Quail Hollow. But one
of the things that we just talked about Cole with
Gordy is the importance of this series against the Rangers. Now,
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I mean importance is a relative term because it is may. Sure,
we've seen the Astros fall behind and be able to
come back as they did last year. We've also seen
two where you know, maybe you are able to have
a great series, and then you know there's another series
later on down the road where you make up some
of that ground, whatever it might be. But I do
agree with Gordy that this is a tone setting series
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right here where if you get out of there no
less than a split, then you did your job. But
if you get out of there swept, you lose three
out of four, then all of a sudden, you give
a team that has not had a ton of momentum,
like the Rangers at a point were almost kind of
like where you were last year, where you were getting
good pitching, you weren't getting good hitting, and you weren't
able to win those close games, whereas the Astros this
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year have been able to win those close games. And
now it's a chance for you to be able to
pad yourself in front of them, but also to be
able to make sure that they don't catch momentum and
who knows what happens with their season from there.
Speaker 7 (02:18:36):
Ashers are two games over five hundred, Rangers are two
games over five hundred. Ashes are a game back of
first place behind Seattle. Rangers are a game back of
first place behind Seattle. Gordy brought up a point. The
tiebreaker in this division may carry significant weight, and this
is one of those games that could eventually have drastic
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implications on what we know about the playoffs. Athletics. They're
gonna go out the nameless Athletics. They're not gonna be
in the running for the long term. Yeah, it was
nice that they have some pieces in play. They're gonna
go back down too reality and be in fourth and
fifth place. Los Angeles is out of the running at
this point. Seattle, we know, is eventually going to half
to decide is there pitching and to prevail. Is their
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offense that as hot as it looks right now, going
to continue or is it eventually going to go back
to reality where they don't spend money at the deadline,
they don't trade away prospects, and they put themselves in
a situation where Lo and Behold they end up underachieving
because that's been Seattle's mantra.
Speaker 4 (02:19:34):
So it's Houston and Texas. Still.
Speaker 7 (02:19:37):
Going three to one in this series is a huge
advantage for you, especially if the one loss comes to
Lance Colors. Okay, Lances are ready to be back. Maybe
Nathan Davaldi continues his pathway of being one of the
better pitchers in the American League. But you're able to
close out, You're able to get a win on Saturday,
a win on Sunday, a win tonight, and you end
up seeing another Cy Young performance from Hunter Brown against
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it's a former Cy Young and Jacob de Grom.
Speaker 4 (02:20:02):
It's a tone setter.
Speaker 7 (02:20:03):
Because of these games have such massive implications, and the
next time that you face off against Texas is in
over a month, so you have to at least I
think breakaway even because of these are the two teams
that we will be talking about after the all start break.
These are the two teams that we will be talking
about in the running for first place. And it's a
division where that minor seventh inning mishap may eventually.
Speaker 4 (02:20:26):
Cost your spot in the postseason altogether.
Speaker 6 (02:20:28):
Well, and it's also I mean, you know you mentioned
Hunter Brown. I mean that's why he's so important tonight.
When I mean the way I got to approach Lance
McCullers right now is I'm approaching was it's bullpen games
at this point because I mean, he's basically an opener
for you at this point, and he mentioned it. You
get a Vaaldi going tomorrow night, and I mean he's
been tough on hitters this year. All right, fine, but
(02:20:50):
I mean being able to get Hunter Brown to set
the tone tonight, then it's one of those where again
you've got three more to go, where you say, well,
we only really need to win one of these.
Speaker 7 (02:20:59):
Oh, okay, what happens if Ronel Blanco gives you a
strong outing, Okay, you breakaway even I'll take that. I
see that Ronel Blanco, the success that he had against
Cincinnati was not at one game Fluke.
Speaker 4 (02:21:10):
That is what we can come to.
Speaker 7 (02:21:12):
And I'm not saying he has to have eight innings
and eleven strikeouts. I'm saying, give me six innings, give
me five strikeouts, get in a couple of doubleing double plays,
get out of position, give up one run, and hopefully
our offense is enough to be able to put us
over the top.
Speaker 4 (02:21:25):
I'm okay with that. I just need to be.
Speaker 7 (02:21:28):
Able to see someone else be that consistent course, because
the problem right now with the Astros is you're relying
so heavily on your pitching. You know you're gonna get
great Fromber. You know you're getting great Hunter Brown. You
need somebody to be that number three until the offense
picks it on up. This is one of those series
where against a very amnemic Rangers offense that is probably
feeling pretty good because they went up against the worst
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team in baseball, they're gonna be able to start to
feel that momentum, bring them back down to reality where
they've been all season long, and do it by having
one of your better pitchers step on up.
Speaker 6 (02:21:59):
Yeah, it's to be key, and I mean I've said
it numerous times and I'll continue to say it, you know,
for even the ones who get annoyed with me repeating myself.
Speaker 4 (02:22:06):
This team hits, they win. I mean, it's it's really
that simple.
Speaker 6 (02:22:09):
With the Astros, with the way that they pitched this year,
you're able to put up five runs, you feel like
you're gonna win that ball.
Speaker 7 (02:22:15):
Let me ask you, do you want somebody just to
have the breakout game, and don't say Christian Walker because
we all know that that's just kind of wushing on
false hope.
Speaker 6 (02:22:22):
At this point, I'll go Hosel two va. He said,
well in this park, just why why not to get
him going?
Speaker 4 (02:22:27):
Is keep it going.
Speaker 7 (02:22:28):
Like like honestly, the yiner das that we've seen over
the last fifteen games. If I can have two seventy
five with a couple of home runs and a few
extra base hits, pair that with estoc Peredes in the
three hole, and then what you're getting to Jeremy Panna
as long as you have runners on, I mean, because
you know that you're gonna get a single once by
Jake Myers, Zach Decenzo.
Speaker 4 (02:22:46):
What are we going to continue to see from him?
Speaker 7 (02:22:47):
Can Brendan Rodgers be batting his weight, not striking out
with the two to one count in his favor?
Speaker 4 (02:22:53):
As long as you have that yiner getting on.
Speaker 7 (02:22:56):
Basis, I think it's just blessing in disguises in itself,
because if you're getting the version that you thought you
were seeing last.
Speaker 6 (02:23:00):
Year, Yeah, it's gonna be a fun series and we're
looking forward to it. As you heard Gordy mentioned you
get MLB Network tonight, you get Apple TV tomorrow, and
then you get Roku on Sunday. But the constant in
all of this is Robert Ford and Steve Sparks, and
you get to listen to them on the iHeartRadio app
when you put Sports Talk seven ninety preset number one.
Speaker 4 (02:23:22):
So hopefully we're.
Speaker 6 (02:23:23):
Hearing a lot more, you know, like we heard in
the opening of the show today the highlights and Essac
partis sitting the home run and we got finally a
ce signor from Sparking, which every time I see him,
I'm like, you warm my heart when you do that.
One one of my favorite Sparkys is Goodwood, Good Word, Goodwood.
Speaker 7 (02:23:45):
This being in a being basically a mini May two
point zero. Do you think Estock's gonna go deep?
Speaker 5 (02:23:49):
See?
Speaker 6 (02:23:50):
It's funny too because I had a caller on the
postgame show the other night that I was like, should
we be concerned that he's only hitting this home runs
at dyk In Park. I was like, look, man, you've
got about one hundred and twenty plus games left. He'll
hit a home run on the road, So I guess
you know what, go Since you put me up to it.
I'll go ahead and say it.
Speaker 4 (02:24:05):
He homers this weekend at at Global Life or whatever
the hell they call it. I go, Yanna gets a homer,
I get East, I gets a homer. I think Christian
Walker gets a home run. All right, there, I go.
Speaker 6 (02:24:16):
He's put some he's put some good swings. I mean,
I think that's something that can't be lost. I mean,
gets robbed of a base hit in the first inning
last night, you know, I mean missed a little bit
going to center field, which you know that's that happens.
I get all of that, and then of course you
know he still had the strikeouts. Sure, but like that's.
Speaker 7 (02:24:32):
Where I have the problem when people compare him to
Jose Bray. You Jose Bray was swinging that pitches.
Speaker 4 (02:24:39):
Fifteen feet outside of the box.
Speaker 7 (02:24:41):
He's making good contact, he's in wards' Parky good Wood.
It's just it's landing in the right position too. For
a player to make a a for somebody to make
a play.
Speaker 4 (02:24:50):
Good Wood's a good thing, all right. I mean, you're
not wrong.
Speaker 6 (02:24:55):
I just I wanted to see if I could put
you on the spot right there now, and I didn't fail, clearly.
Speaker 4 (02:25:01):
I can't. I can't. What do you even come back
of that one?
Speaker 6 (02:25:03):
You have to be prepared, ye is the moral of
the story. I mean, trust me, the guy who usually
sits in this chair that I'm sitting in the day. Yeah,
it's a daily occurrence with that guy already put on
the spot every single Yeah. I was gonna say, I mean,
and we throw that out there so that in thirty
minutes Matt and Ross can steal it too. Hey, that's stealing. Yeah,
here you go. Yeah, hey, you know you got four
hours of radio to fill. You gotta be able to
find ways to entertain the audience. That's what we try
(02:25:25):
to do around here. All right, Uh, the story again
that won't go away. Well, it's just because there's new
things every single day. Yes, Bill Belichick, we'll do We'll
dive into it.
Speaker 4 (02:25:34):
Right here. It is Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:25:37):
I had to live The Sean Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 6 (02:25:42):
In golf's second major going on right now? All right,
Bill Belichick, the story that just won't go away. So
a couple of days ago, and know Cole, you guys
had this on the A team. Bill Belichick sitting down
with ESPN there at the acc Spring meetings, and of
course Jordan Hudson story that just won't go away.
Speaker 4 (02:26:00):
Well good on ESPN.
Speaker 6 (02:26:01):
For actually asking and getting an answer about the relationship
that seemingly has been causing waves, not only for people
around Bill Belichick but also for him in general.
Speaker 4 (02:26:15):
Really off to the side.
Speaker 14 (02:26:16):
It's a personal relationship and she doesn't have anything to
do with UNC football. I'm excited to be back in
the coaches meetings and getting ready for June and then
August when we get the training camp, so she will
be a big recruiting month for us, and then August
we'll start get ready for the season.
Speaker 4 (02:26:32):
Hey, Bill, blink twice if you need help, buddy.
Speaker 6 (02:26:35):
So I'm glad that Bill said that of it's a
personal relationship.
Speaker 4 (02:26:39):
She has nothing to do with you and CE football.
Speaker 6 (02:26:42):
Because The Daily Mail had a story a couple of
days ago that Jordan was approached to take part in
this season of Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 4 (02:26:50):
Oh God, but she asked.
Speaker 6 (02:26:53):
She was asked to be a part of it, but
she said that she would have to decline because that
will be the same time that Bill will be co
and she wants to be there for him at UNC,
so she wants to focus on UNC football.
Speaker 4 (02:27:05):
So which is it, Bill? So she wants to be
in charge of UNC football, That's what it is, all right.
Speaker 6 (02:27:11):
So I'm glad you said that because we've also had
the reports that UNC officials getting annoyed with everything, and
you know, even to the point where, you know, we've
had the Pablo Tory reports out there of you know,
wondering if, indeed, you know, un C is going to
finally just tell them, Hey, Bill, this isn't worth it anymore, Like,
go ahead, move on, We'll just wait till June.
Speaker 4 (02:27:30):
First, that one million dollar built is right there for the.
Speaker 6 (02:27:33):
Taking, and a un C official talking with the Washington
Post talking about the relationship and saying that, you know,
it's a personal relationship, all of that, but also adding
this quote, the two have to decide what they're going
to do, and they do it.
Speaker 7 (02:27:50):
Let me ask you, when you come to work, do
you make sure that you leave your livelihood that's outside
of these parameters at home?
Speaker 4 (02:27:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (02:27:58):
So why is that any different for a coach that
has never been on the sidelines as a head coach
for the Saturday game. I get it's Bill Belichick. I
have no problem admitting that this is one of the
greatest coaches that we have seen at the NFL level,
six Super Bowl championships, working alongside with Tom Brady, helping
create a dynasty out in New England.
Speaker 4 (02:28:19):
You're back at square one, buddy. Let me make this.
Speaker 7 (02:28:21):
Abundantly clear to you. You weren't wanted by the NFL.
Nobody was interviewing you, nobody thought of you as even
a first or second phone call. And now you get
the opportunity to continue to coach. You get the opportunity
to continue to be at the forefront of modern football.
You get the opportunity with a relaxed schedule. Have you
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seen unc schedule this year? It's TCU, It's Clemson and
a bunch of no namers. You can win and go
to a college football playoff. But now you have to
decide if Jordan Hudson, a twenty four year old that
was born circa nine to eleven, is going to have
a say on the college football program.
Speaker 4 (02:29:01):
If anybody else did that, they would.
Speaker 7 (02:29:03):
Be fired on the spot. Why are we giving you
away with this?
Speaker 6 (02:29:08):
Well, I mean, just what I can't understand with all
of this is, well, first, I mean to go back
to the second thing I brought up there. Why is
she even on Dancing with the Stars?
Speaker 4 (02:29:18):
Where is she a star?
Speaker 2 (02:29:19):
That?
Speaker 4 (02:29:20):
I mean, are there are?
Speaker 6 (02:29:21):
It's a loose term with Dancing with the Stars because
they will have people on there. Hey, you know this
guy was on Punky Brewister back in nineteen eighty. It's
like you just kind of told me that they're not
really a star.
Speaker 7 (02:29:33):
They were relevant back in the eighties. That's great, But
I mean that's just the thing.
Speaker 6 (02:29:36):
It's like I almost think it's like kind of like
a little bit of a joke of hey, Dancing with
the Stars, was Alfonso Roberto really a star?
Speaker 7 (02:29:44):
I mean, to an extent, I still know what I'm
sound usual? Is I still do the Carlton every once
in a while, all right? That one's different.
Speaker 4 (02:29:50):
That one I think is Dave Cooley. Is he still
a star? Probably not? Okay? What about what was your name? U?
Speaker 2 (02:29:57):
Not?
Speaker 4 (02:29:57):
Trisha? Paid us up?
Speaker 7 (02:29:58):
The chick who played on a You just answered your
own question? The wonder your's chick?
Speaker 5 (02:30:03):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (02:30:03):
Wendy, yeah, Wendy. Yeah, I'd go with her. Why not?
Is she still a star?
Speaker 8 (02:30:07):
Though?
Speaker 2 (02:30:08):
No?
Speaker 4 (02:30:08):
So that's the point.
Speaker 7 (02:30:09):
But at least you know them from something else other
than being the side chick of Bill Belichick. That's the
difference there in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (02:30:18):
Like, that's what it is.
Speaker 7 (02:30:19):
Name one thing that Jordan Hudson has done to make
her stardom. Actually she was the second runner up, which
is a better place for bronze medal at the main
Miss Patchet, Miss main Patchant.
Speaker 6 (02:30:31):
See that's the thing too, is you know, it's the
old thing of undefeated and all of that, which you know,
you know what the saying is, I don't I don't
have to waste anybody's time.
Speaker 4 (02:30:39):
But you didn't even win the dang thing.
Speaker 6 (02:30:42):
It's not like it's well, I mean, that's that's the
one right there is you don't win Miss Maine. But
also number two. It's like here in Houston, we got
good looking women around here, right sure, I could step
out this building and fifteen women are better looking than
she is, probably, I.
Speaker 7 (02:30:56):
Mean that's the three she's She wasn't even the number
one in Maine. And this is Houston we're talking about.
You're not that special, you really aren't. That's the infuriating
part when it comes to Jordan Hudson is that you're
allowing a twenty four year old who has no contact
with college football, no contact with the sport whatsoever, be
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in charge of your daily life.
Speaker 4 (02:31:21):
And the worst part is is that.
Speaker 7 (02:31:23):
We can't even focus in on Bill doing the coaching
because the entire storyline is based around his.
Speaker 4 (02:31:28):
Relationship with her. So the name doesn't continue to stop.
Speaker 7 (02:31:32):
Like Dan, people in US Weekly know about Bill Belichick's
US Weekly.
Speaker 4 (02:31:38):
Yes, people magazine, it's US Weekly.
Speaker 7 (02:31:40):
Whatever I see like, like, that's how little I know
about that lifestyle that I know that people are reading.
Why US Weekly? Yeah, of course it is, am I
supposed to know what that magazine is like. But I
can tell you those people now know about Bill Belichick's
dating life. That's a problem. Like, name one person with
a weekly, as you would like to say it, Name
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one person that actually cares about college football that usually
reads that.
Speaker 6 (02:32:06):
Well part of I mean, people would say that maybe
this is Bill just saying exactly what he said all along.
I don't care about what people you know say about
me outside whatever you know, just the different things and
even that he said in that CBS interview. But you've
got a hell of a way of completely going the
extreme opposite direction of where you were sure that now
it's created the problem that initially you were trying to
(02:32:27):
guard against.
Speaker 7 (02:32:28):
You had to go hire an outside PR firm to
try to mitigate what happened with the CBS interview. And
the worst part is is that now you're doing another
interview with Michael Strahan, and the first question that we're
asking ourselves is where's Jordan sitting throughout the entire process?
Will she be micromanaging each question? And will Michael Strahan,
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who is in a good job of building himself as
a very qualified reporter in my opinion, for what Good
Morning America wants him to do, will he be able
to ask and have a legit sit down chatter with
Bill Belichick that won't be determined by certain questions that
Shordan doesn't want him to answer.
Speaker 6 (02:33:05):
This is a classic case, honestly, of when you win,
people are willing to They're willing to put up with
certain things like for example, I mean Greg Popovich. Sure,
you know, he gets into politics, starts doing all of that.
He fell out of favor with a lot of people because, well,
guess what he wasn't doing anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:33:23):
He wasn't winning Steve Curve for example.
Speaker 6 (02:33:25):
But the point is what Belichick is, He's not winning
the way that he won when he had Tom Brady
there that I think he still believes in that mindset.
I can create the narrative. I can control the narrative,
whereas people now are looking at him and saying, no,
you cannot. You don't have Tom Brady anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:33:40):
Okay, don't.
Speaker 6 (02:33:41):
You don't have those teams anymore. You don't have the
success that's following you. No, you can't humor me. North
Carolina goes ten and two this year.
Speaker 7 (02:33:49):
They make the College Football Playoff, they lose in the
first round, and then this nonsense starts.
Speaker 6 (02:33:54):
No matter what he does in that town, it will
not matter as opposed to what they have inside the
basketball arena.
Speaker 7 (02:34:00):
When you win football games, and when that becomes this
story of Chapel Hill, then you can start to have
this negative press around you. You haven't coached a game,
and the only thing that we're talking They landa one
of the best transfer portal quarterbacks in Geo Lopez. They
have such an easy schedule, they have such a balanced
recruiting class this past year, and nobody cares because the
(02:34:21):
only thing that we're focusing in on is his relationship
with the twenty four year old.
Speaker 4 (02:34:24):
Well, I mean it's also too.
Speaker 6 (02:34:26):
I mean it's a thing where you're at a job
that I think he looked at the beginning of, well,
there's some potential here because they've won here before, and
I mean, if you win enough, you're going to have
people that where maybe you can raise the expectations of
the program. But again, it also gets to for what
I was just talking about, wanting to control of the narrative. Ye,
you try to tell that media there, oh, hey, you know,
(02:34:47):
we're doing things a little bit different here at Carolina Football.
They're gonna be like, all right, fine, we'll go over
there to the basketball program, because we know that everybody
cares about that. And you're really just here as somebody
that can kind of supplement this thing.
Speaker 7 (02:34:58):
You're here as a name and a brand. That's all
you are at this point. You're you're basically what we
would consider Jordan brand. Jordan doesn't come and visit. Guess what,
we don't really care about you either. You think he
makes it a week one.
Speaker 6 (02:35:10):
I think he coaches this season, but I mean, uhh,
you know after that, I've got my doubts about how
long he still does.
Speaker 7 (02:35:18):
I'm fully invested that he does one year, one year,
and then we go to Steve. Steve is and he
got the job, I think because if Steve wants to
become a head coach, and nobody's going to give him
unless they sign on the dotted line, the heat ecton line.
Speaker 6 (02:35:29):
Remember a buddy in mine when they showed Steve Belichick,
you know, with the long hair and all that. Well that,
but also too, you said that Steve Belichick was the
guy that would have the uh, the new dy magazines
and everything else in the tapes in high school that
you know you want the good stuff.
Speaker 7 (02:35:46):
You go see Steve, where's the body's bill? Well, no,
it's not that, where's the body's garth? Where's the bodies?
That's Steve Belichick literally the exact same level.
Speaker 6 (02:35:55):
He talks just like him too. When you hear him talk,
it's it's kind of eerie. But anyway, all right, read
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Speaker 1 (02:37:32):
This is the Sean Salisbury show SALESA.
Speaker 4 (02:37:37):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 6 (02:37:39):
How do you feel about reboots to shows? You know,
I mean of any variety sitcoms, even spin offs, any
of those things, Like, you know, is there any of
them that you have out there that you're like, oh, yeah, hey,
you know what, that might have been just as good
as the show.
Speaker 7 (02:37:54):
Futurama I was really excited for when it came back
to Hulu, got very disappointed. It took two episodes in
for me to go Nope, not the same time. Good,
not my Futurama. Yeah, he's not my president, he's not
my Futurama, not my Matt grogging.
Speaker 6 (02:38:07):
There you go, all right, Well, there are many of
them that are at least in the works to be done.
And the first one as they spin off of the Office,
we remember it thunder Mifflin right there the Scranton branch
there in Pennsylvania. Well, this is going to be a
spin off called The Paper. It's going to stream on
(02:38:29):
Peacock and the description of the show is the documentary
crew that immortalized under Mifflin's Scranton branches in search of
a new subject when they discover a historic Midwestern newspaper
and the publisher who is trying to revive it. As
of right now, the premise of the show is that
(02:38:50):
it is the Toledo truth Teller, is the Paper, and
the only holdover from the Office is Oscar Nuniez. It
does not appear that any other cast members are going
to be a part of this.
Speaker 4 (02:39:04):
I'm actually interested.
Speaker 7 (02:39:05):
I would watch this one mainly because of I hated
The Office and I want to find a reason to
like something of that mockumentary series. So doesn't have Jim,
I can't stand Jim's character, doesn't have Pam hated Pam.
Speaker 4 (02:39:18):
I hate Jim, and Pam.
Speaker 7 (02:39:20):
I Hate Jim came off as so condescending that I
was I don't like those type people. Dwight was better
written character for me because of I liked that he
was so outlandish.
Speaker 4 (02:39:31):
That he was usually he was a massive prankster, right.
I loved that. That was it. Dwight was so easy
to be able to prank. He was great. I loved it.
But I hate Jim and Pam.
Speaker 7 (02:39:41):
So I'll give the show a shot because I actually
liked Oscar.
Speaker 4 (02:39:44):
We might not get to the last one. But what
about American Gladiators. I never watched it when it was on,
so I don't know for sure.
Speaker 6 (02:39:50):
The Mizzed is set to host American Gladiators and it's
going to make its return to Amazon Prime Video. I
love Gladiators as a kid. I used to watch it
every single week KPRC two. That's the that's the Obstacle
Course show, right, yeah, yeah, Well I'll give the shot
because I think it's probably better.
Speaker 4 (02:40:06):
Than American Ninja Warrior.
Speaker 6 (02:40:07):
This will be the third time that they've tried to
do this, actually second time, sorry, because you had hul
Cogan and Leila Ali where the hosts of it. Where
you had Larry's Zanka and I can't remember the dark
haired guy that was part of it. I'm sure somebody
on Twitter will tell you, but the Miz will be
doing it this time. I feel like you have to
bring back you know, past Gladiators too. I mean even
you know some of them that might still be in
(02:40:28):
decent enough shape. Those people got screwed, you know that, right.
Speaker 7 (02:40:31):
Yeah, it was predetermined before they ever took the sick
to state rights.
Speaker 4 (02:40:35):
No, that's not what I'm talking about in terms of
getting screwed. I'm talking about getting screwed on the money.
Speaker 5 (02:40:39):
Oh right.
Speaker 6 (02:40:40):
Most of them like were pretty destitute afterwards because like
they made very little doing the actual show, and the
guy that created it basically just kept it all.
Speaker 4 (02:40:49):
They did a thirty for thirty on it. I will say,
I will actually check.
Speaker 7 (02:40:53):
In on this one because I never was into American
Gladiators when it first came out because I was too young.
Speaker 6 (02:40:57):
All right, final one here, what about the recreation that's
been about fifteen years since it was on the air.
Speaker 4 (02:41:04):
King of the Hill coming to Hulu.
Speaker 7 (02:41:06):
Britney Murphy's not in it. I'm out, that's my role.
If somebody dies, I can't do it. Lou Anne was
that her character character, So she's out, so I can't
get to it.
Speaker 6 (02:41:14):
You can find somebody that's got an annoying voice, or
you can be able to voice the character.
Speaker 4 (02:41:18):
It'll be fine. Is this gonna be with Bobby being
old and all that?
Speaker 6 (02:41:22):
See, that's what I wonder too, Like, I haven't seen
very many details in terms of like you have to
believe like everybody I saw the older.
Speaker 4 (02:41:28):
I saw the property.
Speaker 6 (02:41:29):
Just keep it like the Simpsons, where for thirty years
you've had Bart and Lisa and everybody be the same age.
Speaker 7 (02:41:34):
The promo image has them where Hank's still the same age.
So it's like, did Bobby just get older? Is it
so gonna be played as like a thirteen year old?
Speaker 4 (02:41:42):
Oh? Yes, say?
Speaker 6 (02:41:42):
I mean I feel like you have to have Hank
with gray hair at this point, you know, and you
have to have boom Hower.
Speaker 7 (02:41:47):
Dale's got to be dead by this way, Dale's gotta
be dead. Dale's well, Dale's alive in the show. Apparently
Peggy's got to have white hair at this point. I
would think so that'd be my role at this point.
It would be fun.
Speaker 6 (02:41:58):
Mike Judge, everything he touches is an absolute work of gold. Cole,
appreciate your work today, man anytime. Yeah, good man, you're
gonna be back in with us again tomorrow, all day tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (02:42:07):
He's Triple Emmanuel Elmore. I'm Dan Matthews.
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